Knowledge Fight - #239: December 12-13, 2018

Episode Date: December 14, 2018

Today, Dan and Jordan check in on Alex Jones' present day show to see how he's responding to troubling storm clouds gathering around his Hero President Trump. It turns out he's descended into into a fantasy world where "Patriots" are talking over the world and the "Globalists" are fighting back with polio. Also, Alex has one of the most severe meltdowns in recent memory because Gavin McInness won't play ball with his attempt to give him a pep talk.

Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. Hello, Alex. I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you. Hey, everybody. Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. And indeed, we are Dan.

Jordan. Dan. Jordan. What was the last time you directed somebody to do something illegal? Zero. I don't know. I mean, when I was younger, I used to buy drugs and stuff like that. All right. Like, I would tell my friends to go pick up a quarter for me or something like a quarter ounce. Quarter ounce?

It's not nothing, nothing crazy illegal. Well, maybe your friend should have known it was illegal. So it's their fault. It has nothing to do with you. You're fine. I mean, in terms of how I also think that should be totally legal, I'm fine. I don't feel a bunch of guilt about it. Outside of that, I don't know. I don't think I've ever directed anybody to commit a crime. Never. Never. Never. No hits. Never put a hit out on it. I'm positive on that one. Yeah.

Okay. Why do you ask? Well, I've been getting into some Rico at material. What are you doing? No, you didn't. You didn't read the dumb shit Trump said about Cohen sentencing? No, I didn't. I've been working all day. I kind of have. Oh, I gotcha. The most news that I've gotten today is about Maria Boutina, the Russian lady who has committed pleaded guilty to, uh, to, uh, to what?

00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:28,880 To conspiracy against the United States. Working with the NRA. This is going to unfold well for everybody involved, I'm certain. Anyway, this is a show where I know a lot about Alex Jones. And I don't know anything but what you tell me about Alex Jones. And apparently I don't know a whole lot about various news elements of the day. That can happen. That's because I've been getting deep in here and I've got an interesting

modern day episode to present to you. Today we're going to be listening to the December 12th and 13th episodes of the Alex Jones show. Okay. And we're going to see some real fucking fireworks. There's some really stupid things that Alex brings up. And then I will say that one of the bigger meltdowns I've ever seen from Alex happens on air, uh, on the 13th. All right. I'm weighing on that.

It's real gross. I love it. There's some he, he needed someone needed to like Rob do should hit him with a trank dart. That's really the level he's getting to. Like side of the neck. Yeah. It's real bad. Oh boy. And we'll get to that.

But first, something that is not real bad. I was about to make that transition for you. It was kind of, that's the junior varsity version of my transition. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I was, I was happy that I thought of it and then you used it. So it was an easy one. Low hanging fruit, but what's not low hanging way up at the top of the tree is my feelings about our donors.

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that we do, we would appreciate it. And you can go over to our website. It's knowledgefight.com. There's a button on the top of the page that says support the show. We'd appreciate it. Thank you. Absolutely. But for today, Alex starts the 12th, which would be Wednesday's show off on a little bit

of a strange note. We know from. By murdering a pearl. That would be a very strange note. It is B sharp. Strange note. No, that's a very normal. Very normal.

No. Come on. So before this, Trump had had his little meeting with Pelosi and Schumer that went quite embarrassingly. A delight. Where they're like, we shouldn't debate this in front of the, what are we doing? This is ridiculous. Yep.

And Trump was just like, we want the wall. Cool. All right, guys. It was very, very uncomfortable. So I thought that this was going to be something that Alex brings up a ton. I thought it was going to be, oh, and the reason we're starting on Wednesday is because Alex was out of the studio for the preceding days. And oh, and Troy was hosting because Alex had gone to Washington.

Yes, even I couldn't avoid that. He and Roger Stone went to Washington and made real dicks of themselves again, as they are want to do whenever they travel to Washington. And Alex was super proud of himself for the stunts that he pulled. Of course. Of course. He was super proud. And so he's going to brag about that a lot.

He doesn't even talk about Trump and Pelosi and Schumer's meeting at all on the 12th. Instead, this is sort of his main story. Did they do anything? What? Did they do anything? What do you mean? I mean, like they went there. They just created a media spectacle that got them a bunch of press and yelled at the CEO.

Oh, okay. That's basically it. That's fun. No, they didn't do any. You mean do as in do? No, they didn't. They made a scene. It's the it's the sort of slightly less embarrassing version of Loomer tying herself to Twitter's door.

Right. That's basically what they were doing. It's like, why have you banned me? That sort of thing. But Alex starts the show and this is a narrative that will go throughout the show. And there is zero depth to it in his reporting. It is just one fact that he's throwing around. World headquarters.

It's they've now officially moved to China is on fire right now. If you're a radio listener, we have a lot of feeds at info wars.com and news wars.com. There was a large explosion in the building. Nope. Now it's got a hundred foot tall red flames shooting out of the top of it. A Google executive was found dead yesterday in New York. All sorts of things are going on behind the scenes. Obviously the head of Google, the CEO Sundar, ran from us when we were simply pointing out

that Dragonfly is already operational. It's totally illegal. They're helping round up political dissidents. So Alex has never brought up Sundar before. And now he is public enemy number one. Alex is just screaming about him all over the show. And there's it. Okay.

So Google has a building or office headquarter in China. And there was an air conditioning unit that apparently caught on fire on the roof. So that's the story. 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:15,840 Now it's just turning that into, first of all, that Google has moved their headquarters entirely right to China, which is not true. And then to that there was an explosion in the building and that there's a huge fire. And Alex keeps coming back to this over and over through the show.

He's like, Google's on fire. He'll be going out to break. And he's like, just remember everybody. Google headquarters on fire. I don't know why that's a repetitive thing to do. And he also keeps saying like, I don't want anyone to be hurt. I'm not happy that their headquarters is on fire. He sounds incredibly happy.

Well, he's winking. Oh, okay. He's doing that. Like, I don't wish fire on Google. It's crazy. So it's his argument that like Google pulled a Baltimore Colts situation in the dead of night. All of a sudden they just moved all of their employees to China.

And then the building is just empty. Yeah. I would say that that's one possibility. The other possibility is that they've been slowly doing it forever. And now they've admitted that they've done neither of which are true, but either one would probably work for him. All right. He's not specific for a reason.

Gotcha. Because either would be like, nope. And as awful as it is. The fire in the Google building? No, no, no. The censored search engine for China. Oh, totally. Like it's horrible, horrific and awful, but it's not illegal.

Well, no, no, it's not. It's expressly not illegal and that's kind. It's illegal to just be Google in China. Yeah. And also from the testimony from the hearings, they said that it is not made and they haven't done it, but they also didn't rule out that they might. Yeah. Which means maybe they are working on it already.

Oh, they're totally working on it. But yeah, at the same time, it's like, hey, you know, if you want to do business in China, then that's what you do. Yeah. We're not saying it's right. It's awful. It's the worst. And it's a bad, it's a bad precedent, certainly.

Oh, absolutely. Alex is pretending that they're launching it here and that they're explicitly like Google is working with China to round up dissidents. Right. And as much as you could say that like the government of China might use the repressive free speech rules that Google would be complicit in, and that's the part that they're helping with rounding up dissidents, I guess you could make a stretch for that. But it's not like, you know, Google CEOs are out there on horseback hunting down the...

And I mean, it's not like China isn't already doing a great job of that on their own. They don't need help. They don't need anybody. They got that covered. Yeah, yeah. So in this next clip, Alex gets into talking about how everything is going great for the Patriots in the world. And he's wrong about literally everything he says in this clip.

The ultramassive news. How big is it? Huge. That you have Macron set tomorrow for a no-confidence vote, maybe removed from office, probably will be. You've got Theresa May set for a no-confidence vote today. You're seeing the fall of the New World Order. Remember what happened a month ago?

Germany had its sixth election in a row. Took six elections to get Merkel's party out of power because they go over 20 big parties. Didn't happen. They had coalitions. But now she's a lame duck. Nope. She's still the chancellor in her parliamentary system, but she has no power. And you see the global spring thrown out in Brazil.

Uh-oh. In Iceland, in the UK. I mean, can I keep listing all this? You see what Trump's doing? Oh boy. Love that he just throws in Brazil every time he's talking about these awesome situations. So now the reality of the situation in European politics is this. In Germany, Angela Merkel was replaced by Annegret Kampkerenbauer,

who has, quote, widely called for and stands for continuity and will safeguard the legacy of Angela Merkel while opposing candidate Frederick Merz. Kampkerenbauer is from the Christian Democrat Union, which might appeal by name to Alex, except that Angela Merkel is also from that party. No. Kampkerenbauer sucks in general, but she is a globalist. And Merkel didn't get defeated. She'd been chancellor for 13 years.

And after the CDU received diminished support in the last election, she announced in October that she wouldn't seek reelection. In terms of changes, this is a zero. You have a person from the same party becoming chancellor, who has consistently said they're going to protect continuity with Merkel's agenda. Macron is facing a no confidence vote in the aftermath of the really dicey yellow vest protests that have been consuming the country. The concern is that he hasn't been effective in handling the situation, thus the vote.

Also, this isn't some kind of anti-globalist maneuver. The no confidence vote is being spearheaded by the French Communist Party and the Socialist Party. Macron's popularity is profoundly low right now, but no serious analyst is expecting that vote to succeed. Also, Theresa May survived the no confidence vote on Wednesday. This was an attempt, this was not an attempt to impeach her, as we understand the term. It was a vote among the Tory party MPs to decide whether or not they had confidence in her leadership of the party.

She won the vote 200 to 117, and thus is protected from facing another leadership challenge for a year. All of Alex's examples are not true. There is no purging of globalist leaders, and even if this were a series of anti-globalist crusades against these foreign heads of states, they've all not produced any of the results Alex is pretending that they have. Not even a little bit. Not even close.

Brazil has purged a lot of people, but I wouldn't even call them globalists so much as like alive. Yeah, and with May, what I don't understand, whenever he was talking about May being part of the globalist takedown, is she's the one leading Brexit. Like, isn't he for Brexit? Because that's, you know, Nigel Farage. He wants a hard Brexit.

I don't know, I don't know. But I literally don't know. Does he know what's going on? And she did kind of lose. I mean, yes, she's protected from a leadership challenge inside of her own party, but knowing that there are 115 people who are voting against her, while at the same time, you've got Corbin, who is waiting in the wings, hoping to swoop in. Sure.

And she even, like her comments after the no confidence vote, even though she won, she's like, this sucks. It sucks that a third of my own party doesn't believe that I should be in this position. So yeah, look, totally. But I don't think that Alex could see, in the same way that before Trump came around, he wouldn't have allowed any US president not to be a globalist, no matter what they did. Right.

In the same way, I don't think that he could look at a president or prime minister in the UK that wasn't Nigel Farage and think that they aren't also a globalist. I see what you're saying. Even though Theresa May is ostensibly for Brexit, which he's actually doing, I'm guessing Alex would say, this is probably what he would say, she's acting like she's for Brexit, but she's really just there to manage,

to make sure the Brexit isn't as anti-globalist as it could be. You know, I mean, actually, that might be true, though. It's not true. There might be some accurate pieces of it, but it's not true. I don't think she really gives a shit about Brexit. The deal that she's negotiated, quote unquote, with the EU is pretty much awful. Like the results of this is either going to wind up being a hard no-deal Brexit or a second referendum where people are like,

this was a terrible idea. We want to do over. We want to not do this one. Right. But one of the problems, too, is that even this conversation of fanciful ideas of what Alex may or may not believe is contingent on a certain amount of black and white thinking, wherein these politicians are globalists or they aren't.

Right. And this really is a part and parcel of Alex's worldview. And in this next clip, it's also contingent on believing that he knows what he's talking about. Well, we know that we can't have faith in that. But that black and white thinking really comes in in this next clip. And I think that he says some things that are fairly important. This is the fight for this country.

This is the real deal. And people better decide which side they're on. There's only patriots and globalists. There's only people that are pro-human future. People that want a globalist future. What about Switzerland? That, I don't know. That black and white thinking, though, that right there,

there are only patriots and globalists. There are only the people who want a horrible future and a positive human future. That line of thinking is how you end up supporting Nazis. That is how you end up supporting white nationalists, white supremacists. Because based on the dichotomy, those aren't globalists. Ergo, they are nationalists.

Cool, awesome, human potential people. If there is only two camps people can begin, you are on the side of all people who are against, quote unquote, globalists. Now you've got a lot of Nazis in your ranks. And that's how it becomes okay. That line of thinking exactly right there is the softest version of radicalization. And Alex is full of it.

Yeah, I think it is kind of, I mean, probably as close as possible to the reality of our political system as it is right now. That kind of one-sided or black and white thinking. Sure. Specifically and especially from the right wing. I think the left is guilty of it. Oh, no, I mean, I'm totally guilty of it, of course. Like oversimplistic categorization and shit.

But that is one of those things where you do wind up seeing people, you know, like my family will be like, hey, whoa, whoa, I don't agree with all of these things. But it's like you're still at a rally with a lot of Nazis there. I'm not at a rally with Nazis. So one of us is closer to Nazis. Maybe you're not a Nazi. Yeah.

But you're awful close to a Nazi, you know. Well, even that being said, it's just how you become acclimated to it. Yeah. It's the worst version of the enemy of my enemy is my friend kind of ideas. And especially when it's based on a false dichotomy and it's based on like a false similarity of ideas, it's real dangerous. And people listening to it could easily be tricked into thinking, oh, yeah, yeah, these people who want to ban immigrants from coming into the country,

they're cool. Yeah. So anyway, we already sort of touched on this in a previous episode and a little bit in a clip just a second ago. But Alex has some more things to say about Brazil. In Brazil's that stupid, they're threatening the new Trump down there with plunging their economy. Oh, no.

If the public gets mad at a leader who could turn things around and then the globalists come to destroy that, to then punish the leader and punish the people, do the people get pissed at who's pissing all over them? Who's running them in the ground? Who's raping them? Or do they get pissed at the person that stood up with them and is their brother? Yikes. You are literally talking about a guy who threatens rape.

Uh-huh. Yeah. Oh, yeah. That's your good guy. You're talking about the guy that you're saying is standing with the people. Is the guy threatening to rape people? He's their brother. Literally.

Yeah. I think Alex needs to look a little bit deeper into who Bolsonaro is, because his like the new Trump down there kind of thing, it really, if he knows anything, it reveals deeply what he's attracted to in Trump. Exactly. And that is a big, big fucking problem. Yeah. So anyway, I just played that because that's ugly.

And it shows that Alex lusts after authoritarians. It's kind of strange in that my first reaction or like my instinct is to go like, whoa, whoa, whoa, Trump isn't Bolsonaro. You know, and you're like, well, I mean, Trump is a horrible monster, but at least he's not a military dictator. But give different circumstances in America's history, social climate, economy, all of those sorts of things. You could very easily see the sort of person who puts out the rhetoric and the worldview

and the actions that Trump does acting exactly that way. Were he in that circumstance? For sure. For sure. Yeah. Anyway, in this next clip, Alex screams about how he and Roger Stone are the real Americans in the world and how everyone yells at them out of car windows that they suck. And then you'll walk down the street of your Roger Stone or Alex Jones or Donald Trump Jr.

And people will roll down your windows and go, if you, you are American Russian, you're going to prison scum when we're the Americans, everybody knows it. So they're trying to plunge the economy right now and they may be successful. See a better letter body, you know, understand who was the blame. Okay. All right. So Roger Stone, Alex Jones and Donald Trump Jr.

This trio is walking down the street. People pull down their windows and scream at them. I'd just like to say, remember at the beginning of this episode, Maria Boutina was, she played guilty to conspiracy against the United States on behalf of the NRA. Yeah. There's some pictures of her meeting with Donald Trump Jr. I don't know what you're talking about. I don't either.

How do you imagine them walking down the street? The three of them together. So you can do, ah, diddy, diddy, dum, diddy. Are they walking in a straight line because they all have some dominance issues? Have you ever seen that, that music video by the whispers? They sang a rock steady, we begin to rock steady, steady rocking all night long. Okay. They did another song called Keep On Lovin' You.

And the way they walk down the street is exactly how, everyone go watch that video. That's how I picture Alex Roger Stone and Donald Trump Jr. You're walking down the street, snapping around and like dancing across, like side to side on the sidewalk. My favorite parts of the show are you explaining a necronistic music video? The whispers are all fucking like a hit machine. Those guys are amazing. They're so good.

They're real, real smooth. And then on top of that, the lead singers of the group are twins. And they both have a crazy mustache. All right. Well, now that's awesome. I like that. It's surreal to watch these like, these R&B singers all in like weird like suits. And the two of them are twins.

It's just bizarre. Tegan and Sarah are twins, right? It's not the same. They don't dance around the sidewalk. Hey, they're, they could. I don't know. I don't know if they're twins. Admittedly, Tegan and Sarah is a group that I 100% should be into and should have explored.

Yeah, you somehow never have. You really should. You love that kind of pop music. Like their earlier albums, I can see you ignoring. But the most recent albums have been all pop dance. I'm sure, look, I should look into them and I will. I'll make a commitment to do that. But the reason I think is just because of like the groups of people I was around who were really into them,

like maybe eight, nine years ago, I was not a fan of those people. And I was just like, I don't want to possibly really like something you really like. Anyway, I don't believe Alex's whole thing about people rolling down the window and screaming at him. I also don't believe the thing about those guys being the real Americans. I would like to roll down a window and scream at them. That would be fun. Might be. That'd be a good day.

So also, in addition to the Pelosi-Schumer-Trump meeting, the other news that had broken here before the 12th was that, you know, Michael Cohen had gotten sentenced to three years for his, his behaviors. Alex has a take on that. Oh, oh, does he? Would you believe? I bet it's hot fire, man. This is a, this is ambitious.

That was a take. I'll say that. Michael Cohen, obviously in the last 30 minutes, they announced this. He's getting three years for cases involving Stormy Daniels lying to Congress about Trump's Russia Tower. And of course, there's nothing there with the Russia Tower. There's nothing there with Stormy Daniels. Nothing. This guy is getting this three years instead of 20 years for $15 million money laundered

and a bunch of other stuff. So to act like Trump had a crooked toenail, he's been given three years. He's lucky. He's getting that. What a monstrous little traitor. What a sack of garbage Michael Cohen is. Cool. I love the, like, can you, can you be a traitor if you just commit crimes?

And I mean, like, who are you? I know that Alex thinks that Donald Trump stands for America now. So I guess like betraying him is betraying America. Yeah, I suppose. I guess that's where the sort of traitor idea comes from. But man, it's going to be so fun in the coming like months to see because that's that's push league stuff. Oh, yeah. That's an easy flex for him to make, like bending over backwards to be like,

yeah, Michael Cohen's a weasel. He's going to prison. That's nothing to do with Trump. Not hard. That's what they, but man, when some of these dominoes start to fall, as I think, as it feels like they're going to, it's going to be much more difficult. I want to hear his take whenever his, his strolling partner, Don Jr. is sentenced.

That could be, that could be very, and after Alex has said that Donald Trump Jr. was his and Mike Sernovich's source, he said that on air and then apologized for it. I didn't mean to out Sernovich's source. Sorry about that. Oh, that is Donald Trump Jr. That, that also introduces some problems. Alex wisely hasn't talked about Michael Flynn in a really long time. That is why he used to talk about how he was a super patriot and trying to get

Gulen out of the country because Gulen was evil and all this stuff. Trying to turn that into a positive extradition outside of the law. And he could talk to Russians all he wants, that sort of stuff. Thankfully, Alex has stopped talking about that. So his audience will have forgotten that he was so pro Mike Flynn and he can be like, he was, he was going rogue. He was a traitor the whole time. He was on his own shit.

Yeah. Trump Jr. is going to be difficult. He already hates Jared. So I don't think that's going to be a big deal. Yeah. I don't think anybody's, I don't think anybody's going to miss that. I, I'm just trying to picture how he makes his move like to sustainability after this. I think it's possible.

I think it is possible. But what's he got? What do you mean? I mean, do you make your pitch to, to Alex? Like how do you survive this? Oh, I would have done it long ago. I would have done it already. But I think, well, I mean, we heard in that last current episode, I think, uh,

when he was talking about like, if this new NAFTA, the USNCA, if that gets ratified, that's his line in the sand. He can use that as the perfect dismount. Really? I mean, it would involve probably severing ties with Roger or getting Roger on board with wherever you go in the future, which is doable. I think it's doable. And if he stays out of prison, I don't think you need to worry about where Roger's going.

It's going to be, if Roger goes to prison, then the transition is super easy. Yeah. Because that is going to get ratified. I see almost no way that it's not. So when it does happen, which Alex knows is going to happen, he can use that as his like jump off point. I don't know what he does from there, but probably just goes back to Ron Paul. Shit.

Yeah. And then if, if Stone does go to prison, he can go against. Oh yeah. Stone, Stone was the one who was lying to me this whole time. I believed, I'm a believer. The only crime I committed was loving my country too much, Dan. John Rappaport sent me emails that Stone had sent him trying to turn him against me. No one tries to get Rappaport against me.

I don't know. There's a whole, there's a whole slew of options. But I think picture was of Roger Stone the whole time. That's why it wasn't hung. I think if Alex is smart and he wants to continue, be able to continue his rhetoric, he has to get off. He has to leave. Yeah.

And that is the perfect way for him to jump off. Because one of the only things that's left that Trump like was said he's going to do, and Alex was super into, was getting out of NAFTA and GATT. Yeah. And the idea that you have this new version coming in, it undoes all like the, like all the, hey, the stock market is so awesome because of Trump. Right. That argument has kind of gone away.

He hasn't built the wall. He hasn't put Hillary in prison. None of this stuff is happening. All of the people that he put into office that Alex said were going to be amazing, like Jeff Sessions are gone. Yeah. There is nothing left for him in terms of this dead husk of a presidency for him to make propaganda out of.

Yeah. He needs a fresh start. And that's the perfect opportunity for it where he can still keep at least 60% of his audience, probably if he does it right. Yeah. I think he'll lose some of those diehards and shit. The people he's radicalized too far. Right.

They'll find a new home. They probably. Stormfront. Yeah, sure. If that's, yeah. I don't think we've kept a tally at all. Has Trump actually done anything that Alex wants or publicly wanted him to do? Yes.

Got out of NAFTA and GATT. The TPP, he signaled being out of the TPP. That's right. The tax cuts Alex was super thrilled with. Yeah, but that's not really something that Alex, like. Any Republican would have done that. Well, yeah, exactly. I mean, more like for, for Alex's specific idiosyncrasies in desire.

Like, has Trump done any of those, like, any of the things that would signify actually kicking out the globalists? He's clearly indicated a distrust of non-whites. Right. So that. So we got that going. I mean, though, I'm sure the border policy of separating families from their children, that's Alex loves that shit, of course.

Globalists wouldn't want that. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. It's, I don't know. We're in the weeds. We got to get back on track. Oh, okay. Sorry.

I'm not sure. I think it's probably not much, I would say. It's just amazing to me that you never, I don't really consider anything that Trump has done because it is only ever specifically benefited him and other rich people. Yeah. To the detriment of everybody who voted for him. But you know what he's done that makes up for so much of that? He at a rally publicly defended the idea of being a nationalist and that means so much to Alex

that that can make up for a multitude of zeros. Okay. I think that I think that he is existing on that like that just I'm starved for three days and then someone gives me bread and I love them for it. Right. That sort of relationship and that's what that's an unsustainable system and it makes this show incredibly boring most of the time in the present because he's in that position where he's he's trying so desperately to do anything

and there's nothing and it leads him to do things like this. Like I know in this clip he's trying to complain about Mike Pompeo. I don't know why. Yeah, why? He doesn't explain at all in this clip. He gets distracted by a term that he uses himself and then never gets back on track. Listen to this bullshit. Okay.

And now Mike Pompeo, Patriot, top of his class, great guy. Mikey Pio is what they call it. Great worthless country is a butt boy. A butt boy is pretty much quasi-pedophilic too. It means you know a boy that a man uses his butt. So at this point we're not done with the clip but this is where the train has left the station. Yeah, no. I Alex is no longer interested in talking about Mike Pompeo or explaining why he is a butt boy.

He now just wants to talk about butt boys. They have to define this for you but that's what a butt boy is. In fact, it goes back to they used to impress down to age six, seven, eight years old. Usually about 10 was the age they wanted on to British ships. Impressment. Part of a Revolutionary War was over. Impressment. They would just kidnap your child, sometimes a hundred miles in, you know,

inland and knock them over the head and just take them and put them on a ship to be the cabin boy. Well, let me tell you on some ships, you know, the cabin boy was getting buggered. Okay. And buggered is the English term for screwing kids. And buggering is a big deal over in England as we all know. You see it all in the news with your status. What? We all know that.

What? You know, they just bugger your children's brains right out in the open and turn them into little perverts when they're age five. And if mommy and daddy don't like it, we're gonna take your child from you if you live in a blue city. Okay. By the way, my mom's from Austin. I grew up in Dallas. Where's this go?

My family helped found this state. And I've had family living here in Waterloo as it was named before it was Austin for. Where some of them butt boys? Is that why you know this? 180 years. And I've got our building and our structure built here. But in the next few years, I think I'm going to evacuate Austin. It's falling to California.

I don't know. What is he talking about? Mike Pompeo's a butt boy. Now let me tell you about the etymology of butt boy. Sure. And then for some weird tangential reason, I'm going to leave Austin. We've heard him talking about leaving Austin for years now.

00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:21,600 How many years? He always wants to leave. Of course he do. Alex. Even in our 2009 investigation, he's saying he's about to leave Austin. Gotta get out of here. These anarchists assaulting the cat cafe. Gotta get out of this town.

Fuck out of here. Such nonsense. That track of thinking is really super bizarre. I'm all here for Alex complaining about how bad it was in the 1700s. Sure, I'll allow that. Pirates, privateers, we're not good people. No. So point taken.

It was a different time. Why is Mike Pompeo a butt boy? This is nonsense. It's weird the world that we are living in where he, like, didn't Mika Brzezinski say butt boy on television? I didn't hear this, but if she did, I'm not for it. Everybody roundly was like, hey, that's a seriously homophobic slur. What are you fucking doing?

It does feel that way. It is. It is. It's a pejorative term that's always been applied to, just like, well, I was willing to accept it in terms of the pirates. Right. Well, even when he was talking about being buggered, that is not associated with, like, Nambla.

That's just what people pejoratively called homosexual sex. So he's even, even in his explanation of other countries, he's still saying that any homosexual is a pedophile. Well, yeah. I mean, he says it's the LGBTP. What a monster. Yeah, we'll get, we'll get into a specific about how dumb he is about that here in a little bit.

But before we get to that, Alex is like really riding high on his success of going to Washington and yelling at the Google CEO. He has a different definition of success. Yeah. And so he gets into this, which is really funny because it's, it's just, this is so stupid. And I'm going to tell you what Google really is on the other side of this break. You're going to get the world exclusive. Why they fear info war is more than anything else.

Do they? Do they? Because I've read their own writings, their own statements, their own dreams. And I've studied their overall operations and the globals to control them and I know them. And I know what they've named their secret projects. I mean, they're fucking heads, man. Like Palantir. Oh, one of Google's secret projects like Palantir.

The company that was started by Peter Thiel has nothing to do with Google. Quiet. Palantir is like a data company. I can't hear you over the sound of Alex being too right. Too right. It's so loud how right he is. I don't know. Peter Thiel noted Trump supporter.

Peter Thiel was the one who started Palantir and is the chairman of it. Famed rich person who has deliriously and deleteriously attacked journalism in all of forms. So this is why Alex is so, he makes Google so scared because he knows about their secret projects that they're not involved at all. Man. That's how secret they are, Dan. He is crazy. Is he going to get into the Palantir?

No. He's not going to go Lord of the Rings? 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:37,680 Come on, man. Not going to get into the company nor the Tolkien reference that's being made. But what he is going to get into is how he is a big boy and okay. He is there to fight against tyranny in all of its forms.

But if you love evil and you love lying and you love setting up systems that make humans weak, not strong, sounds great. I am your enemy and I swear on the altar of God, eternal resistance against every form of tyranny. Oh, I guess I'll change my mind, man. Also, I'm super into what's going on in Brazil. I am against all forms of tyranny. Great. Well, Brazil's great.

And there's a new Trump down there. And oh, the Philippines. Have you been to the Philippines? Loves them. He loves Duterte. And dude, Russia. Loves Putin. Killing it.

I am against all forms of tyranny, though, from China specifically. I hate that one. That one specific form of tyranny. Yeah. I am against. Uh-huh. But roving gangs of murderers, empowered by the government to extrajudicially kill whomever they dislike.

No big deal. That's not tyranny. That's a good old time, man. That's so stupid. That's just Alex is a fucking wing dangling. Yeah. That brings us to all that we really need to cover on the 12th. There wasn't all that productive of a day.

And honestly, if it weren't for a couple of really fun things, like the Pompeo clip in particular, I might not have even covered the 12th at all. Because the 13th is meat. I just like knowing that Alex can read Google's dreams. That's what I like to, I like knowing that at any point in time, Alex could be reading anyone's dreams. I just picture him sitting by the fire. Reading a well-worn Kindle.

Children gather round. We're going to read from the good book of Google Dreams tonight. I'm going to tell you about Tim Cook and what he dreams about. He's late for a test. So we get into the, uh, the 13th here, the Thursday episode. And, uh, you know, the news had broken about Maria Bettina. Yes. And so I kind of thought maybe Alex was going to get into some defensiveness.

I was wrong. I can't predict Alex's behavior any better than anybody else can. I can, I can document why he's wrong about everything, but he is so unpredictable. Instead of doing anything that has to do with the current news, he instead launches off on a fucked up medical episode. The first hour and a half at least of this episode is wall to wall rant. It is nothing except him just ranting. And here is where he sort of picks up his theme.

Everything just to this one article. I mean, it brought up thousands of things when I was here. I hadn't seen this article yet. Where'd you look for it? I'd seen what happened in other parts of the world, the way the IMF, the way the World Bank handles it, the way the UN handles it. And I've got all the UN documents. They're in America destroyed by design.

Are you crying? And I just think, you know, if I just get up here and just cover this flippantly and cynically, people won't get how dangerous it is and I get really, really angry at myself because if I don't just sarcastically hatefully say it, then I'm going to absorb it and I'm going to start crying. Do then I'm going to start killing people. Whoa! That is an escalation.

That's why it's hard. That's when I know why people don't want to face all this because it's hard. Because you're a murderer? It's hard. They're putting polio in the vaccines. The polio vaccines? So I would say that, first of all, unless I snarkily yell that I hate people, I'm going to cry and then I'm inevitably going to kill you to murder for me.

Wow. So that's not good. So that is another check mark in the probably technically kill the guy. Totally. At no point does Alex mention what article he's talking about. Of course not. So I had to just sort of research anything. Anybody?

In order to get into this and it seems like he's responding to a story about an Indian pharmaceutical company shipping out potentially contaminated viruses. There's a lot of problems with that story and Alex's sort of take on it. This is a different one than the other company, the one from Germany. 2009? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. This is current. Yeah, because look, I mean, you never know with Alex,

he might just be pulling that story up and saying that it's new. So I just wanted to confirm. He will get into the factor eight story. Of course. He'll try and weave that in with this, but we'll get to that in a second. So there's a lot of problems with him trying to use this in the way he's using it. First is that this story broke in late September, so it's not technically news. The second is that it was the result not of malice and wanting to give people polio.

It was the result of faulty manufacturing practices that have been condemned by the US and European regulators for years. There's no regulatory oversight in a lot of the Indian companies and people there, there are people who've gone on record and said that they just don't have the infrastructure in place in order to assure quality assurance. That sort of thing, which is why the US and European authorities often have to put out notices of like, don't use this Indian medicine because oftentimes it will be something that could be tainted or something that is just suspected of not being produced correctly.

So then the third problem is the only people who are getting these potentially tainted vaccines for polio were in Maharashtra, Telagana and Atar Pradesh. So no one in the United States were even affected, even though it is still awful. These people getting potentially tainted polio treatments, it is awful, but it has nothing to do with the United States. It has nothing to do with malice. All of the things that Alex is ostensibly bringing into this narrative that makes him want to cry and then murder, it's not real.

So that's what I have to go on for now. I don't know. I still don't know if that's the story he's talking about, but I thought like, this is close enough. So maybe that's what he's talking about. It's also not true. Were they polio vaccines or were they some other medicine that had? So these were like the old, tiny idea of what a vaccine is, whether it's like,

oh, we put a dead version of the virus in here or whatever it is and you build up your resistance to it. As I understand from the articles that I read, there are investigations that are still ongoing, but the working theory from what I read was that there was a wrong strain of polio that ended up in the vaccines. So whatever that may mean, it's the same thing that happens. Super polio. Sure.

But it happens from time to time. You end up with, in countries with no regulatory state, with no... Regulations evil though. True. Places where they have no oversight in that way, you do end up from time to time just by the law of averages, you're going to have something where the wrong thing is in it. And in terms of medicine, it's really high stakes. It's amazing that our quality isn't that great.

It's like we don't even have a quality control department. Wait, we don't? Oh, okay. Well, then yeah, no, it makes perfect sense. And this is, quite frankly, one of the best arguments for some sort of globalization, quite frankly, in terms of like, if there are places that have really robust industries, like India does have a really large pharmaceutical production industry. So you have places like that, but they aren't up to the standards that other countries have

established. You're only going to end up with a lot of potential problems. Whereas if there were international regulations, I mean, you probably couldn't end up doing something where if it's produced in India and used in India, you couldn't maybe oversee that. But in terms of anything that's exported, I think those probably are in place already. Which is why the only people who were hurt by this were kids in India, which is still bad, still awful. Super bad.

Anyway, I don't, I still don't know if this is even the story. I don't know. We've been shipping them our Romaine lettuce for years though, so I'm sure they'll be okay. So I don't know if this is the story, but Alex talks more about it and he gets even more severe. Tens of thousands of children are dying right now across America after they get the shot for polio and the government's ordering it covered up. Do you understand? This is a planned program to test.

And I'll explain how they run it when we cover up thousands of children killed. They want to kill your children. How could you? It's not thousands. It's tens of thousands. How could you possibly cover that up? I don't think you could. It's not possible.

And I mean, he's now sort of closed in the scope of what he's talking about. Obviously, it's not that story out of India, although maybe he would try and use that later to bolster whatever story he's talking about. But I still don't know what article he's talking about. I have no idea. I have nothing to go on except gases. So I looked around and found that there's also a December 10th article on ABC about a new mysterious disease that's been appearing that is in some cases paralyzing children.

According to the article, quote, investigators of the current outbreak have ruled out polio finding no evidence of that virus in recent cases. So it's something that presents similarly to polio, but absolutely isn't polio. At no point, like I said, does Alex specify what article is responding to? But seems like maybe it's this one. I mean, it seems it seems pretty close to his second sort of refining of the premise. But this isn't about polio. It's about a condition called acute flaccid myelitis, which is an entero virus,

which polio is as well. There are over 100 other entero viruses that are not polio that exist worldwide. Most of these aren't very serious and can be treated very effectively. As is the case with many diseases, the severity of the cases of AMF depend largely on detection and on the doctors being able to treat the condition. All Alex is doing by making people distrustful of doctors here, which is what he's doing, is just making sure that people don't get appropriate treatment in time. Also, this isn't caused by vaccine, quote,

severe neurological complications after EVA7-1 infection. That's what doctors are speculating is what's precipitating the AFM. Are so rare that a vaccine is not warranted. Dr. Vincent Recchinello, PhD, Professor of the Department of Microbiology and Immunology at Columbia University, explained, quote, Remember that polio virus used to paralyze tens of thousands of children in the United States, which was the impetus for the polio vaccine. Before that, they didn't have a reason to create one.

So at this point, what he's expressing is that whatever this is that's causing this is something that we don't, it's so rare that we don't treat with a vaccine for it. Of course. So the idea that the vaccines precipitating this is nonsense and it's not polio, it's something else, presumably AFM. It's an interesting thing and it's something that's unfolding currently. Doctors are still a little bit up in the air about it, but it's also not tens of thousands of kids and it's not killing most of them.

A lot of them have fairly minor reactions to it, but in severe cases, it can cause paralysis. Yeah. So I mean, it's not, it's nothing to minimize or scoff at, but the way Alex is using it or appears to be using it, because again, he could be fucking talking about another article. Or he could just be making some article up. Definitely could be. Yeah. But it seems closest and the way he's using it is super dishonest and all it does is actually

make people less likely to take care of the issues that they need to take care of. Because quite frankly, this is super important. There is no cure for polio. There isn't one. The only thing you can do about it is get a vaccine. There's only prevention. Since 1988, the world has seen a 99% drop in cases of polio. Since they started working to try and eradicate it.

Before then, there were 350,000 children coming down with it annually. And this year, there were 27. Whatever conspiratorial nonsense Alex is peddling is nothing even close to the scientific validity of that level of result. I assume that everybody has autism though. That that's the only, everybody has to have autism. Because if they've, if we've stopped how many hundreds of thousands of, no, millions. Millions.

Millions upon millions upon millions of deaths. I assume, I mean, through the use of a vaccine. Right. I assume everybody has autism. It's a one to one. Right. It has to be. So in the past few years, we've seen a resurgence of measles,

which had become very rare since the standard vaccines vaccination for it. Doctors are currently warning that we are facing a very real possibility that we will see the same thing with polio in the coming years. Because again, there is no cure for polio. The only way to handle it is through prevention with the vaccine. Creating fear about vaccine is vaccines in general is really good for Alex's business. But ultimately, if more people listen to him and act on his advice, it's going to lead to pandemics.

Polio's a real bad one because people can get it pretty easily. And the severity of it is, is very high in a lot of cases. Yeah. So this is really irresponsible. I, I hate the thing that I hate most about this whole bullshit that he's on right now is that there is a real world corollary that is that he could like just jump in there with just move a couple of words around and you're talking about Flint. Like, oh, the, the government is poisoning our water that fucking.

Yeah, they're killing children. Fuck. And yeah, there's an outbreak of Legionnaires disease that we have. Fucking. Yeah, they're doing all of that. And if Alex just, just change the narrative, it doesn't even have to, but it's, it's because it's mostly black people. Yep.

All you have to do, you could, Alex could do some real good. You could do a money bomb. Yeah, on foot. Yeah. For Michigan. Yeah, I know. You don't have to make up a fake polio outbreak when you've got a real government fucking disaster.

It kind of does suck. I mean, he would probably agree on the point of Flint, but he just doesn't care to ever talk about it. Well, which again, we know. It's mostly black people. So in this next clip, Alex talks more about this. And again, all I have to go on is clearly the best context clues I can find. And he just makes things worse.

And let's expand the Clintons for over a decade knowingly ship HIV and hepatitis blood out of the prison certifying. Clintons did that. Made it. What? All over America in the world. They estimate more than 5 million people contracted HIV and hepatitis. And most of them have now died.

3 million plus dead. The Clintons did it on purpose. They love murdering people. Hard break with Baltimore playing there. I'm guessing that they were crying a lot. And that's why they love murdering people so much. Must be. I mean, we went over that factor eight story on a recent episode.

Could be not too recent. I don't know. I lose track of time. I have no idea what day it is. Yeah. So that's all a lot of bullshit. That is a tragic piece of American history that is mostly Reagan's fault. No.

Clintons Reagan was a great man. And actually not Reagan's fault. It was the industry's faults that were involved. But also Reagan created the atmosphere where there was such a stigma about HIV and AIDS that that sort of thing was just taboo and not dealt with. And absolutely could not have given less of a fuck when it was an issue. Yeah. Yeah.

So I believe this is our last clip about the vaccine stuff. And in this, Alex is sort of trying to warn people that your kids are going to get vaccines without your consent, which is very weird. I'm fine with that. So just remember that, ladies and gentlemen, with the peer pressure and they do all this. Peer pressure.

They're trying to make it mandatory to do all this. Dare. Trying to take the age of consent away for sex in California, but also saying they've done it. You know, 10 year olds can say, no, mommy, I'm getting a $200 free debit card when I get my vaccines. So your children can countermand the parents in California. And now that's going nationwide.

Let me just plug real quick. Wait. Without you funding us, we won't be able to support us. We have store-wide free shipping. I think that's probably a pretty soft ad pivot, but it is still your kids are going to turn against you and get these death shots that will give them polio because the globalists are offering them $200 to get polio.

But you know better, but you won't be able to choose for your kids. We need your money. And Schwarzenegger is apparently still governor of California. By the way, big news. What? I finally solved a mystery that has been plaguing me since we started this podcast.

And we'll be talking about it on episode next week. And it is the mystery of why does Alex Jones own the website ArnoldExposed.com? I finally solved the mystery. He owns the website ArnoldExposed.com? Yeah. Did you get the hearty boys in to solve this one? What happened there?

Well, no. And I don't want to spoil it. It's a wild story. Okay, fine. But you know, you can do a reverse search on people and see what web domains they own. He has like info wars, prison, planet, Jones report. Like all that makes sense.

And then ArnoldExposed. I'm like, why the fuck? Does Alex running an anti Arnold Schwarzenegger site? Oh, it's actually, no, it's a site. It's not just the domain. Oh, yeah. There was a website set up about Arnold Schwarzenegger. Really?

Yeah. And I solved the mystery. So anyway, no. No, Alex blamed him for something that he didn't do. Anyway, we'll get to that on next week's episode. I hate to be a tease, but the actual story of that is really weird too. So we're done with the vaccine stuff for now.

And like I teased at the beginning of this episode, Alex has a complete freak out breakdown on air coming. And it wasn't him saying, I'm going to cry, and then I'm going to kill people. I feel like that is the beginning of a great rant. When he starts that at the like sort of top of the episode, when he's in it, when he comes in with that, you know that like he doesn't have the endurance

to make it to hour three without losing it. Uh-uh. Man, he loses it hard. But before he does, he says something that is probably one of the most grandiose things a person can say. And I am your God now. Very close. Very close.

Like censorship. You ask, why do they pick off one and then pick off another and pick off another? Why do you just get sick of hearing about it and you adapt to being prey? You adapt and accept they're coming for you and everyone else accepts it. And no one organizes to fight it.

This is, this is the program. But they've looked at the actuaries and the algorithms, the number, and they knew that info wars had triggered human survival instincts on the global scale because of you spreading the word. But because of my particular brand of truth. Brand of truth?

The, the, the tightness force. Tightness lost, right? That will to survive. That will to defeat the enemy is, is strong. And they found us together. This operation, not just me, is able to break through the enemy like a battering round. Sure.

And we've blown major holes in their operations before. Sure. We've crippled them. How? And so they've desperately slammed on the accelerator, which is even more dangerous because they got to get their program finished before we fully wake up.

So they're accelerating the death now. So, okay. All that means nothing at the end, but the man, what he's expressing is the reason they kicked me off Facebook and Twitter and all this is because they, the globalists, have actuaries that have done some number crunching

and figured out that Alex Jones' brand of truth, which is lying, by the way, is the only thing that is able to wake up and save humanity. It's kicked in the survival response of humanity. That is flagrant narcissism. I also, I also don't know what that means. Well, I'll tell you what it means.

Almost exactly what you said right before the clip. I am your God. I have the ability, I'm one of the only people because of my specific brand of truth. Which again is untruth. What I am able to do is wake you up out of your slumber

and remind you that you need to survive. That's, that is- By my water filters. That's deeply, deeply fucked up. Yeah. Deeply cultic. Deeply just follow me if you want to live. Yeah, that's, there's like a psychological term for that.

Something along the lines of malignant narcissism, I think. Oh, you sound like his ex-wife. That's such a... That's just Ed McMahon's joke. Oh. Sorry, I didn't, I haven't watched enough Carson. No, no, no. On the old Star Search, he'd always do that.

Anytime like there was a little girl doing some Star Search shit. She'd be like, he'd be like, and what do you, what do you want? She's like, I want to grow up and be, you know, rich and famous. And he's like, ah, you sound like my ex-wife. Ah. That's a good bit. Yeah.

So, didn't mean to be just, of you and Ed McMahon at the same time. You were the one who did the bit though. It's fine bit. No, I wasn't even doing the bit. I was saying literally you sound like his ex-wife. I know, but that's never mind. Anyway, so in this next clip, Alex gets to deeply, deeply flawed

understanding of the history of a certain men's organization in America. This clip is very... KKK? Nope, this clip is very fucked up, but the truth of it is less fucked up. And then the reality behind it is even more fucked up. Get ready for a ride.

Okay. You know, what'd I say five years ago when they said we're going to have gay scout leaders? I'm not against men that like men or vice versa. Sounds like you are. But when you want to put someone who's into sex and makes it a point in with a bunch of young men or boys, you're going to have sexual abuse just like the Catholic Church.

Oh, and now the Boy Scouts of America is set to go bankrupt because of all the lawsuits. What do you think you do at the World Jamboree where they handed out condoms to young boys as young as seven with groups of men? That would be freaking gross if I showed up as an adult at some resort and there were 10,000 people and they were handed out condoms to everybody. I'd be like, I don't want to get diseases. What the hell is that?

It would just sound, you know, it's like going to somebody's house in Hollywood and they got 20 hookers there and it's kind of obscene. You're like... You're talking about Charlie Sheen. Bulls of peanuts or something. I'm getting out of here. But imagine you show up and little kids are like bulls of peanuts. So give me some of those Black Rockin' Peas.

Hey, you want this one? You want that one? I didn't do that. Imagine little kids. It's like, oh, this is what we do. We're just going to screw these little kids and then we're going to blow up the Boy Scouts of America and we all let everybody do it because we don't want to be homophobic.

So come on in here. Screw my kid in the ass. It's all right. It's liberal. Okay. The Black Rockin' Peas is jarring. That sting is, whoa. Whoever is hitting that button has such a good timing too

because like that, the way it came in right. I know. Imagine if you walked into that house and there are a bunch of kids looking like bulls of peanuts. It's almost like he has staff who's trying to work against him. Yeah, they're fucking with him. Somebody is fucking with him. So this story that Alex is telling here is incredibly stupid

for a number of reasons. The first is that the Boy Scouts don't hand out condoms. They're just available for people at the health centers that are a part of the event, the World Jamboree Event. Second, this policy had nothing to do with the organization allowing gay scout leaders. And in fact, condoms have been available at Scout Jamboree since at least 1992.

They didn't allow homosexual scout leaders until 2013. Thirdly, this is probably a more important point, the sexual abuse lawsuits that are potentially going to result in the Boy Scouts filing for bankruptcy have little to do with the fact that we're talking about here. They have to do with the fact that in the 1980s, the group was negligent in allowing a sex offender to be a troop leader who then went on to abuse children

in his group. All of these act happened between 1981 and 1988 and have to do with Thomas Hacker, who was arrested from arresting children at a scout camp out in 1961, then allowed to join other troops after the fact. So there's a group of 15 people who are suing the Scouts because of that and that they were negligent for having this person who they clearly had cause to know

was a sex offender who had offended against children repeatedly and they allowed him to be a scout leader. In addition, there's another lawsuit where four men are suing the Boy Scouts over abuse that happened between 1974 and 1976. There are a lot more current instances of abuse in the Boy Scouts, but the major lawsuits that they're facing right now have to do with events

from decades ago before there were condoms and before gays were welcome. Nothing that Alex is saying here is real. He's just demonizing both sexual health practices and the LGBT community by connecting them to a completely unrelated issue of sexual predators, unfortunately, probably accurately, seeing the Boy Scouts as a place

where they can easily find victims. And unfortunately, in doing the research for this, if we don't need to get into, there are a lot of instances of abuse that's happened at the Boy Scouts. There are so many and Alex trying to conflate that into some sort of gay thing or condoms being available thing is complete nonsense. It's so infuriating whenever that line of bullshit shows up

and, you know, I don't have anything against men who like other men except every single time I bring them up, it's because I'm talking about pedophilia. Yeah. And also, I don't have a problem with men who like men or vice versa. Is that men who are liked by men and men who are liked by men? Yeah.

What's the vice versa about? I think he was trying to say vice versa. You're switching around. Yeah. But like the vice versa part is really funny. And vice versa, men who like other men. Right. Men who like men who like other men.

Who are liked by men. God, it's gross. It's so gross. It's fucking awful. And it's just like that bullshit like, oh, I don't want a trans woman using the women's bathroom because they're going to attack my kids. Trans people are the ones who get attacked. Absolutely.

Every single fucking... Oh, I don't want these kids to go to this place where they're homosexuals. Youth group leaders molest more children than anything like that. Or, I mean, I'm glad that we're finally all on board with the Catholic Church being an unholy monster of pedophilia. But really, this is crazy. The problem in the Catholic Church exists without them allowing gay priests.

I'm not sure if they do now. I haven't kept track of their rules. No, they don't. But the issue certainly exists without that. The issue exists without them supporting condoms. So those two variables that Alex is trying to present as being important in the Boy Scout abuse history, it clearly isn't relevant. And the fact that he brings up the Scouts and the Catholic Church

as sort of parallel things, the elements that he's trying to use to connect to them don't track, so the inference doesn't track. It's complete nonsense. Anyway, that is just gross. That to me is gross. I hate hearing stuff like that. Although it is interesting, because I had no idea that the Boy Scouts had condoms at the Jamborees since 1992.

I didn't know that. 92 is crazy early for them to be on that tip. Yeah, why? Well, because there are adults there, and also because some of the kids are of age. On the state, 17 is legal. No, no, no. I didn't mean why do they have condoms. Like, I get why they have condoms.

Oh, and because they don't just hang out with other Boy Scouts. Right. I just mean like, why in 92 did it start? I don't know. You know what I'm saying? It might have been an initiative that was put forth by like some sort of like a World Health Organization or something like that, and they got on board with it. I don't know.

It's interesting to me. I don't know the reasoning behind it, but it's very interesting to me. If I had more time, maybe I would have, we'd do a whole episode about the Boy Scouts being on a sexual health early tip. Yeah, that's weird. Although I don't know if 92 is that early, but definitely early. Compared to so much of the rest of our lives, yes. Definitely earlier than you'd expect them.

Institutionally. So now, Jordan, we're going to get to what is going to take us through the end of this episode. There's a bit of an interview on this show, and it is the most recent instance of what Alex Jones likes to do. So whenever somebody in the right wing has been disgraced, someone has taken a hard beating in the public eye. Because they're secretly liberals.

That's the only thing that makes sense, right? No, no, no, no. Secretly globalists. No, no, no, no. We saw this with Milo. When Milo fell out of grace, Alex was quick to have him on his show in order to try and get some of that sweet, sweet attention that comes along with that person being T-platform.

Oh, is Laura Loomer going to be on there? No, don't worry about that. Okay, thank God. But this is the exact same thing. Once somebody is in the press enough, Alex wants to come in and ride their coattails. Yeah. So. So the 30-year-old who got kicked out of his parents' places back.

No, he's not in the news, but someone else is by the name of Gavin McGinnis. Oh, fuck me. Now, in this interview, there's a really interesting dynamic at play. And that is that Alex wants to fucking inspire Gavin, and he wants to tell Gavin, you need to get on your fucking bike and ride. So it is the 30-year-old all over again. It kind of is, but it goes a very different direction. You know, in Pat Buchanan's book, Death of the West, he talks about the Frankfurt School.

And he says that what they do is they call you race. If an opponent becomes too much of a hindrance, then just call them Nazi and racist again and again and again. And then they spend their time defending that, and they lose their power. They change the subject. Change. And we're just busy. Hey, go ahead, have sex with our kids.

01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:44,560 Don't call us racist. I'm not racist. And it worked. I mean, if you say, where can people find me? Nowhere. Thank God. I'm done.

He's coming on here, and Alex is going to try and be like, you, you got to fight. You got to fight. And consistently, Gavin's like, no, I'm done. I don't give a shit about this anymore. And Alex is so mad about that. The dynamic between them is so hilarious to me. It's Gavin, I don't, I don't know if he's trolling Alex. I don't know what's going on.

I hate Gavin McGinnis. I think he's a shit for brains. He is awful. But in this episode, he's my hero. Oh yeah. Because he keeps shooting down Alex and it drives Alex to points of insanity we have not seen in a very long time. All right.

I can't wait for that. So in this next clip, Gavin complains about what the liberals do. Oh, we do all the stuff. They have this really sneaky media trick that they use in order to make sure that they appear to be humans while the rest of the people on the right don't. And they're, oh, I love that sneaky trick we have where we don't separate children from their parents at the border. Well, it does have to do with children.

Here's another trick that, that, that left it does. They threaten your family, right? So you don't want to ever be put pictures of your kids up. So you look at someone like Chris Hayes, Mark Rufalo, all these other activists, they're in pictures with their kids and you go, oh, that's a human. That's a dad. That's a wonderful family person. But then with, with you, we can't show our family.

And then just use a picture where you're scowling like this. And then you can make him more and more of the villain dehumanize him more and more. And then he can die. He can vanish. If I didn't get rid of a person's voice, I got rid of Hitler. Point of order. Gavin McGinnis has featured his son in a number of the videos he posts online. Also point of order.

Alex has had Rex, his son work for him at Info Wars on air broadcast. Rex was there when Alex chased down Birdie Sanders at an airport. Right. What the fuck are you talking about? You can't show your family. They were wearing Mission Impossible masks, Dan. One of those perfect masks where you're like, oh, that's totally a different person. And then surprise, it's Tom Cruise.

No one would have a problem at all if they presented themselves in pictures with their family. No one would get. Like they wouldn't get any more threats than people on the left do get, by the way. More. Yeah. They get way more. Oh, yeah. Do these guys, they can't possibly believe that stupid shit.

This has to be. No, it's just. This has to be like. It's just outright like arguing for victimhood. The two of them are outside of the Alex trying to inspire Gavin and being like, no, outside of that. The entire interview is about Alex saying that the Proud Boys are really awesome. They're heroes. They're the victims in all this because Antifa keeps starting fights and the Proud Boys finish them.

And then at the same time, they want to walk the line of we are the greatest and strongest, but also we're the victim of everything. I don't understand how you can actually believe that though. Like because, because all of that, like, because that's not even true with your Antifa and the Proud Boys, like the Proud Boys start fight and then the Antifa people wind up finishing them because the Proud Boys. Well, they end up finishing them on the ground as the Proud Boys beat them up as a group. Exactly.

Well, look, it's fucked up. It's the exact same thing. The metaphor that Dr. Whitaker used in that 2009 episode we were talking about, that strategy that he accuses the doctors of keeping people half healthy, half sick. It's the same thing. They know that they have to present this idea of half macho, super powered, western males who are ready to fight because they need that to get people interested in joining. Right.

But at the same time, they have to have that half that is we're the victims of everything. There's a conspiracy against us to explain why they're not successful in anything. Because otherwise, people who are attracted to the masculine power that they're presenting, would start asking questions of like, why aren't you getting anything done? Why is this just like, you know, it's the same strategy. You have to walk both of those lines. If you don't, there is a problem. You don't get recruitment without the masculinity and power,

and you don't get retention without the facade of conspiracy against you. I think that the victimhood at this point probably drives more people to the Proud Boys than that. Like the fantasy is masculinity. But the reality is all these, you know, disaffected white nationalists are like, why aren't I allowed to do everything I want to do? And then they join a white nationalist group. You're possibly right that the victimhood part is an appealing piece of it. But even in that case, even in so much as that,

the, excuse me, the masculinity is the proposed solution to those feelings. Exactly. So that's still the enticing piece of it. Even if spiritually what you're attracted to is the scapegoating and the excuse for your own ineffectual life. What is really drawing you is the idea of these rowdy men who like to fight. That's the answer. That is what will get me out of these feelings.

Finally. Meanwhile, you join up and then you find out, oh, those feelings are really what's motivating this. And then you're sort of like, wow. Finally, Dan. Finally, a group of men have come together and decided that violence will solve their problems. That has always, I've been waiting, it's never happened before. It's been awesome.

It's time for the true awakening for men for once in human history to come together and decide that violence will solve problems. So in New York, after that meeting speech or whatever that Gavin did, there was, of course, the incident that landed a bunch of his proud boys in trouble with the law. And, you know, if you look at multiple angles of it that are synced up, you definitely see what the reality of the situation is that the proud boys were charging at these people, one of them threw something at the people who were already charging at them, and then a fight started.

So the idea that the proud boys were victims in that is ludicrous, but that is the presentation that Gavin is going to put out onto the air here. Antifa had been dispersed. They went around the block, came back, ambushed these guys, threw pee at them again. Ampushed. Right? And starts, and starts winning. They actually was kicking them when they're down if you watch the video.

And then the proud boys fight back and the cops go, are you okay to Antifa? Do you want to press charges? And they say, F you pig. And so that's just not accurate based on the video that you can find of the incident. And I understand why he would say this. That's like him being on the show, he has nothing to plug, and he says he's done with all the shit. So like all he wants to present is donate to help these guys because they're in legal trouble.

The only thing he plugs is the fundraiser for his proud boys for their legal trouble. So it is in his best interest to say, you know, they were the victims of all this, you know, present that side of it. And he even goes on to say that like his whole video where he disavowed and stepped down from the proud boys or whatever, Alex is trying to present it as like, they were threatening you. So you did that. And Gavin explains very clearly that the situation was in order for some group to be called a gang, their needs, like legal definitions require that they have to be committing crimes,

and there has to be a leader. So if there isn't a leader, it hurts the argument that there's a gang. So his intention was to get on publicly as best he could to step down as the leader of this group, that he refutes the idea that he's a leader of a gang or anything like that. But if he did that, maybe it would help with their sentencing because the definition of gang wouldn't fit right very different than someone being like you step down or else. That doesn't track though, because wouldn't by like him saying that he knows that this is why they would be considered a gang suggests that he knew they were a gang.

Prosecutors probably aren't listening to info wars. Yeah, he doesn't say that in the video where he steps down. Ah, he doesn't say. Well, of course not. But I mean, like that's what he's what he's essentially saying. He's admitting that he knew they were a gang and they are a gang. He's admitted that before though, like on his own show. Right. So that's stupid.

Like even on Rogan, I think his direct quote was I started a gang. Well, I mean, I there is something I there is something to be said about the fact that he unlike so many other Craven stupid opportunistic assholes is still holding a fundraiser for these guys. Yeah, they're just abandoning them. He could not. I mean, I don't think that's I think that's the definition of cold comfort. Yeah.

No, for sure. Like humanity. Right. But yeah, I you do kind of got to give a little bit of a so many of these assholes would just like wash their hands. I'll be like, I didn't even know that this got out of hand and it's not got nothing to do with me. So I'm going to distance myself from it completely.

I don't feel like Alex would go out of his way to help any of his fans. Oh, hell no. Yeah. And so there is there is like at least a kernel of Gavin that probably feels responsible for leading these people into these groups and having created it. And this is sort of the direct result of it. Now, as much as he publicly wants to place the blame on Antifa and stuff like that, no matter what he's presenting and all that stuff, yeah, it is it is the lowest version

of a compliment I can give him that he could have not done this. He would not have suffered from not doing this. You get you get one more morality point than Alex Jones does, which still puts you at negative 10,000. I think he's a bit above Alex. Maybe not though. Actually, one point above Alex. Real hard to say.

Yeah. Who knows what those points account for. Anyway, who cares? Let's not get bogged down because at this point, I kind of got the sense that Gavin is on for the reasons I expected, which is to rewrite the history of that New York event. Of course. Like just make the proud boys look like they're Western heroes and stuff like that. Basically propaganda.

Yeah. And then Alex is going to ride the coattails of Gavin has kicked off Glenn Beck's network. That's a great moment for me. I can now take him and maybe try and get him on Info Wars. Maybe I can or at very least having him on my show is going to get me a lot of attention. Right. So I kind of thought that was the game they're playing. And I was I almost didn't want to cover it because I almost thought like,

you hate Gavin. No one really likes Gavin that much. But then Alex said this and I was like, wow, we got to talk. Well, I mean, I've got to do this episode now. I was just talking to Gavin McGinnis. Founder of vice. Famous comedian. What?

Um, they should call him a mill shover. This is just an inherently bad. There are women inherently bad. Like the leftist tell us he's against all the race of baiting. Kind of like a white Martin Luther King. I mean, he stands for what people actually do. Now the color they are. So that's why you're the horrible racist because the left has gone pure racist.

Pure brainwashing. So Gavin McGinnis, the white Martin Luther King. Man, Alex loves to throw around different white people who are Martin Luther King or better. Yeah. It's strange how many white Martin Luther King juniors there are on that show. Man. Wow. Uh, damn, I feel like give me, give me, I'm not even asking for a ton of parallels.

I am just asking for two parallels between Gavin McGinnis and Martin Luther King Jr. Functional central nervous system. I don't know if that's a parallel. Born in North America. Nope. These are just facts. You're just naming facts. Similarities.

I don't know. I feel like I've seen enough of Gavin's show to know that him and Martin Luther King have some pretty serious disagreement. Oh, would they have problems with each other? Yeah, I think so. I can't think of any. No, none at all. They're, they might as well be the same guy.

If you get them together in a room, it'd be like, it'd be like fucking Ebony and Ivory, man. That's what it would be. Yeah. Go listen to any compilation of clips of Gavin McGinnis and just imagine it in the flowing term. It's so easy to imagine Martin Luther King saying those things. Very easy. So, oh god.

In this next clip, in order to reinforce Gavin's idea that they're the victims of Antifa, the Proud Boys are the victims in the whole situation. Sure, sure, sure, sure. Alex helps him out by bringing up something that is complete bullshit. Making community ground they want. You want to reiterate that this was staged. They were waiting, but my friend, we got documents in January of this year, 11 months ago, and it's been confirmed by a gentleman whose brother was in Antifa and his brother got in

trouble and he went in there and he was, he has battle commands from George Soros Jr., Alexander Soros. They describe how they work with the police, the areas they stage the events, how they're trying to get black Americans to riot so they can bring martial law in. We have all these documents. 01:20:35,120 --> 01:20:35,840 Anybody can type it in. Two states on.

The documents to tell plans for civil unrest and martial law in Baltimore. And you read these. These are real documents. This is what they do. No, it's not. And no, it's not. The, these are the fake documents that he found on 4chan. The, this is, this is crazy.

Can't you wash your hands of that? No, because it proves everything that he thinks. Yeah, but he could just be like, you know, it like, he doesn't have to say that it's not real or anything. He could just like, he could just be way less specific. Well, it is. Yeah. Well, I think it is interesting that he doesn't get the story wrong.

You know, like it's been a while and he does get the part about like it being a guy whose brother was involved. Like all that stuff. Like you would think he would sort of fuck those up or at least muddy them. So it's harder to dig and figure out what he's talking about. But no, I think it's because it is the smoking gun to him. Like, I think it, papers are always the smoking gun to him. It's what makes his story work.

The idea that Soros is behind all of this and it's a plan in order to agitate to start a race war. So all the people who are, they seem to be pretty fucking white nationalist. All of those people aren't bad. They are just standing up to the agitations. The actual race, the actual white nationalist, George Soros, Right, right, right. Who also wants to bring in martial law.

Totally. So he, so his plan, so George Soros' plan. They foment the race war, which is, Start the race war. It's an excuse to bring in martial law, 01:22:09,120 --> 01:22:12,000 Which will lead to taking Alex to a FEMA camp. And then they just don't have any plans after that.

It's really just about getting Alex in one of those camps. Yeah, what is, what, what happens? So, okay, so you bring in martial law, do you stop the race war then? No, because what you do then is you deploy race specific bio weapons. Oh, shit. This is starting to become a good plan. No, it's not. I mean, we're filling in holes.

No, it's just another dumb narrative that he has. Anyway, Jordan, in this next clip, we get to what I would say is the reason for the season. Christmas is coming early. Is it? And this is to me, to me, there are a few things that just fill me with joy when I listen to Alex. And like, it's really tough for me to sit here on this podcast and tell you that Alex Jones and Gavin McGinnis brought me a ton of joy. But this next clip, the dynamics at play are fucking hilarious.

Okay, but listen, I'm not, I'm not $35,000. I'm not lawyer fees. Gavin, I'm not trying to make points with you. You're a smart guy. I've been through this. I learned, you know, I had them like three years ago. Just say, say you're sorry to Sandy Hook parents, because I figured out that I thought it happened.

You know, they thought about babies and incubators in Iraq war and also their fake stuff. I never created the thing questioning it. I think people have a right to question anything they want. But I looked at it and I said, you know, I think it happened because some of the evidence people brought up turned out to not be accurate. Wolf King halving people. I'm not against Wolf King either. I just had to base a Wolf King and said, no, I think there's some people getting told PR stuff later.

That's what looks like acting. But I said, I think this happened. Holy mackerel, dude. When I said, they just said, just say you're sorry. You thought it happened. I said that it's in penthouse this month. It's all over the news. Jones won't say he's sorry.

He's sending people to their houses right now to bully and attack them. No one's saying that. They're just saying that because of the rhetoric that he perpetuated, people have been showing up and harassing these people. And then they put the people on TV lying saying, I'm currently doing that. When I never did it, I just learned that that's what the left does. They come to you and they tell you, oh, just be reasonable. We have humanity and it's all a setup.

It's all a setup, man. It's not the families I blame. It's these lawyers and these prosecutors because they've learned how to use our humanity to manipulate us. You guys are heroes. You're a hero. The proud boys have never gotten arrested anywhere. They get attacked by meth head professors and in city employees and black outfits. They fight back.

They valiantly kicked their ass. You're heroes. Valiantly. You demonize and said you have to take on you're a hero like George Washington. You have to take it on the persecution and you have to never then think that they're actually trying to compromise. They want you destroyed because you are not a pedophile. They were successful. I'm destroyed.

They won't be. Yes, we'll see about that. We can rebuild it. The bigger the lesson for us is stronger, faster. I got this extended on, man. I'm Stephen Hawking. Appropriate that he played wipeout at the end there. Yeah, somebody is fucking with him.

Somebody is fucking with him. He gave a two minute lecture about how like, you know, when you say sorry, that's when they attack you the most because they try and manipulate your humanity. Well, I fucking worked. I'm done. Yeah. They destroyed me. No, you'll come back bigger and stronger and faster. Nope.

Not the six million dollar man. I'm Stephen Hawking. My revenue streams are gone. I can't even hold down a job with Glenn Beck's weird outfit. I'm out. I can't go back to rebel media. I love, I love how Alex, you can't afford me. That's actually I was, I was like, how desperate would Kevin have to get before he

joins him for wars? I don't know. I think I think I hate to say that I believe him in terms of him saying I'm out or whatever, but I could easily see someone like him being like, I kind of see the consequences of this line of fascism that I've been going down. Yeah. Because it doesn't like as much as he is a monster and he's led like these really horrible things. There is a kernel of him that always seems to Think that he's joking like he thinks he's joking.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I think. Well, he is a famous comedian then. Famous. Famous comedian. I think that he could walk away from this not to like any like shores of credibility or anything like that. Right. But he could walk away from this and get a fucking job at like doing construction.

I don't know. He's still rich as fuck, isn't he? Yeah, I mean, he should be. If he's not, he fucked up. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, because he made a lot of money when he was bought out at Vice. Yeah, I was going to say, I assume he didn't invest that all in proud boys. Considering that it, did he just say that he made a lot of money off the right, right?

But he just, he said their legal fees were 35 grand, right? I think it's 350, 350,000. Okay. I thought he said 35,000. He was trying to just rebut Alex's like points of like, you got to keep going though. He's like, what is it worth it? Right. All this shit.

I don't know. It's tough for me to delight in someone else's misery or anything like that. But I can also say like hearing him say, you know, like, these are the consequences of going down this line and I'm not into it. I can, I can say, yeah, I see where you're coming from. Yeah. Now in this next clip, we learned something really fucked up about Gavin, something that I could not have ever imagined.

He technically probably killed a guy. No, he is older than Alex. What? Steve Austin will be that man. Also this clip starts with six million dollar man. Yes. Yeah. But also it starts with them having an exchange that I think that they thought was off air.

Better than he was before. Better, stronger, faster, faster. Listen, they know you have humanity. So they're running the saw up and put your friends in prison. You guys made some mistakes. I didn't want to be a control freak in your business. What were the mistakes you made? It's Alex Jones coming to you live from the front lines of the info world.

Listen to me. You're 48. I'm 45. What? You know more than I do about a lot of things. We talked about our kids last night for three hours. Women, all of them. It's that I've already been higher up the mountain and been to the same attacks.

It's all, it's all rote. It's all blueprints. So I'm telling you, I used to be like you and I thought, oh, I'll signal this. I'll be nice. That they take that as blood and they were on air. I think Alex, we're on air. I think you didn't realize his mic was hot. No.

I'm saying like you made some mistakes. Yeah. Yeah. What mistakes did I make that doesn't answer that question? Nope. That's nuts. That's wild stuff. And that's crazy because I mean, Gavin doesn't look good,

but he looks better than Alex. Oh, Alex looks like shit. Yeah. Although, although I did see a picture of him. He's years younger than Gavin. Gavin is almost 50. I did see a picture of him and his beard is not as terrible as it once was. No, that is true.

It's unfortunate, but I will, I will give it. I mean, that's why we've stopped shitting on it so much. Yeah, I know. It's not the awful victory beard he had before. Nope. But it is also like, yeah, you spend a lot of time on that. Yeah. He has the look of someone who takes a long time in the mirror,

getting those, getting just the right line. It's well, it's well, well. He might have got a guy, but hired a guy who's also doing the music for a show. I, I, I really wish, I really wish Alex would have answered that question. What mistakes? I really want to know what it is interesting to think. I want to know what mistakes Alex thinks they made. I don't think he does think that.

I think that was a rhetorical way of getting him to listen to him. You think so? Yeah. I think that was just Alex using language. Like he made some mistakes. Don't blame yourself. Don't kick yourself. Get back up and be the trooper that I know you can be.

Trying to, trying to do the dad thing to a man who's apparently three years older than him. Nuts. So up to this point, I've been selling this pretty hard, this idea of like this dynamic being really fucked up. And we've seen like a couple of things already that the like long pep talk and then the, I'm done, like that sort of thing, which is on its own, very funny. Hilarious. But this next clip is really where everything comes to a head and Alex has

a profound breakdown on air. Standing up for yourself. I understand, but I also. No, you can't believe how corrupt they are. You can't believe how they lie and you can't believe deep down. You don't feel sorry for yourself. You can't believe America is putting up with this crap. I just, I have a few TV stations call me in radio station.

They go, will you please not show or play three year olds putting money in G strings of fat men wearing wigs, shaking their asses. And I go, okay, I'll quit for you. But you understand this is being shown to children. Adults need to know what the hell's going on. And they go, okay, actually you're right. But well, people complain. I go, I know they need to complain.

They should complain about the children being asked with God. Not me showing you. You think I like seeing this crap? You think it doesn't piss me off? Let me tell you, I'm ready to kill people. I'm sick of this. Oh boy. Not literally.

The point is, I'm like, nice, nice try. That's one attitude. Another attitude is. Let's just give all our kids the chocolate. God damn it. And excuse me. You know, I'm not taking Lord's name and vain. I want these people damned to hell.

I'm literally praying God damn them to hell. That's not the Lord's name and vain. I mean that. I don't take God's name. That we ought to have a prayer called the God damn it prayer. God damn them to hell please. You think Charlton has seen a prayer when he realizes this is earth and all his family died 10,000 years before and he's come back

through a wormhole and everybody knows he's dead. And he's saying God damn them to hell. You bastards, you blew it all up. God damn you. He's not taking Lord's name and vain. He's saying God damn them. God damn them. God damn them.

You all right, Elks? You seem upset. Thanks for these vaccines everywhere that eat their freaking cerebral cortex. No, I'm not really familiar with vaccines. Now Gavin is not a famous comedian, but there's some pretty good timing in there. He's got some good timing.

That's pretty good. The, uh, you seem upset. You seem upset is great. That's great. They also, that's one way of looking at it. Like attempts to deal with Alex when he's in this like, like just royal rage freak out nonsense. You can't even imagine what it would be like

sitting there in studio with him when he's now screaming God damn them over and over and over again, trying to justify his use of God damn on the radio. I'm not using the Lord's name in vain. Sure. I'm ready to kill people. Not literally. I'm ready to kill people.

Wait, my brain just had a thought, and that thought is don't say that out loud on the air. That's the second time on this episode. He's talked about straight up murder. Yeah, I think he wants to kill people. I think he might want to kill people. I think he actually wants to kill people. And then he starts growling.

Yeah, that's. That to me, like when I heard that, first of all, I was like, my mouth was open. My jaw hit the floor when he launched off on that for no reason. Yeah, I don't why, why is he doing that again? Well, because he's trying to demonstrate about how like the problem isn't you. The problem is that you can't believe

that the world doesn't see this as a problem. So when I mischaracterize drag queens, cross dressers and trans people and make them all out to be pedophiles with my propaganda nonsense, the radio stations come to me and they're like, Hey, stop doing that. I'm like, no.

And then he gets into wanting to kill people. Yeah. So we can kind of. That's quick. Yeah. It's, it's a mess. I do like, I do like the way he put that story of the radio stations.

So when I, they asked me not to put this stuff out there and I'm like, no, it needs to be out there. People need to see it. Well, we're getting a lot of complaints. People need to be complaining. Yeah, you're right. But please stop it. Even his own story.

I'd love to see. Is them just like. Mollifying just. Hey, you're right. Go away. Stop it. I would love to see that email chain, by the way. I'd like to foil that.

The other thing though, what made me lose my shit while I was listening to this was how he went into Planet of the Apes. Like that to me is so funny because his trick of always talking about movies. Always. Is hilarious. But the way the, the, the quickness, the, the immediate,

like I talk in Planet of the Ape like you don't fuck. And you got it wrong. You get your. He said maniacs. He didn't say bastards. No. And he's talking about the get your hands off me. Damn.

Damn dirty apes. What's the quote at the end of the movie? And remember, keep in mind, the Mandela effect might have changed your memory. Oh, that's a good question. Um. Oh no, hold on. I think I got it.

It is goddamn you though, right? I have a dream that one day apes and man will live comfortably in harmony. Despite the fact that man obviously set off a chain reaction of nuclear weapons that destroyed the entire planet. To the age of apes. No, blame the apes.

I don't understand who, who is really the victim here. Alex might not have seen all five of them. He would not like that. Oh man, beneath the planet of the apes is a profoundly fucked up movie. Sure. I love it as is. Well, it's not a movie, but this next clip is

profoundly fucked up. This, this to me was like, so that was, that was sort of the, the meat of Alex's freak out. It goes on a while though. Yeah. And it leads to this, which this is a mic down because this to me in one minute's time, it walks the gamut of like really fucked up, really hilarious and,

and just almost blasphemous to a certain extent. Oh, I had a huge epiphany. My grandmother, when I would see something really horrible, I'd say Jesus, she'd say, don't take what's wrong with me. That's some weird brainwash Baptist thing. I love God. I'm in it.

I'm involuntarily calling on Jesus when I see them sexually brainwashing children. I'm saying Jesus, save us. You need to call on Jesus, Kevin. I've been doing a lot of praying past months. You know, you want to pray with me right now? Sure. It's time to pray.

It's time to pray. I'm getting a rage. I apologize. But I really don't. I got to plug Ringo bankrupt. The enemy totally trying to shut us down. The enemy, all they ever say is we're not real because they know damn well we're real.

100%, 100% folks. I'm ready. I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm trying to figure out how to beat these people every damn second because my very cells cry out against them. My very spirit is just on fire to defeat these people. And I want to spread the fire of liberty into your mind and others minds.

It's not my fire. It's God's fire. And you, let me tell you something. You ask Christ in your heart, not the fake devil. You get these churches, but the real Christ, you'll be on fire as well. And it's not a God of weaknesses, a God of strength, and of overcoming these people.

And I need your financial support so I can expand and support others in the work they're going to do. That's two ad pivots, man. That's crazy. That is whiplash. Have we ever seen such a thing? He, he did a double Lindy into a back reverse ad pivot. That's a eyebrow fake kind of like basketball maneuver.

It's like, you think this is the ad pivot now? It's coming a little bit later. Oh man. Yeah, that's, that was a Euro step, Dan. So you start with, it's time to pray. It is time to pray though. Gavin, would you like to pray with me? Yeah.

So they decided to pray. We'll do it after the break. We got to, we got to sell stuff. We'll do it after the break. Cause I need to sell some things and everyone's probably real excited about the idea of us praying together. So we got their juices going. I'm going to sell some shit and get the fire of God,

not this fake God, the real God. I need your money. I could not love that. Like I own the real Christ. Nobody else knows anything about Christ the way that I know Christ. And if you let the real Christ in, you'll know exactly his power, the truth, the majesty of it.

It's time to pray now in a very Christ like way. I am going to ask you for your money. You know what's really fucked up too is that like that sort of mentality exists on the same show where they demonize Gnosticism. I will never ever understand people who claim ownership of Jesus and yet clearly know nothing about what he was about. Right, right.

Don't anybody tell him that he was a Middle Eastern Jew, but I will lose his mind. I think that's our main complaint all the time with when people use this sort of rhetoric is, is not, it's a complaint about the, I don't know. I don't know what I'm saying. Anyway, I want to get to this next clip because so they promised they were going to pray.

They don't pray. Oh, thank God. I didn't want to hear him pray. They don't end up praying. They forget about it and start talking some shit. And when they come back from which is a certain type of prayer that there's a Gavin gets into. Hey, they're trying to turn women into men, but women,

you're bad at being mad. That's sort of like, he's a famous comedian. Famous comedian level. Famous comedian. It's good stuff. And so instead of actually getting to praying, Alex wants to do something else. I'm going to kick your ass if you don't get back on there.

Let's just have a fight when we come back. Okay. So last break, you were going out to break with saying you're going to pray when you come back. Now we're going to fight. This is such a rapid like, this is like a walk through Alex's brain as all the doors keep opening up and you see the nightmarish hellscape inside each one.

It's prayer. You open the door of prayer. And you're like, ooh, I don't want to go in there. You're in this room that's decorated really serenely. You know, like it has a real ethereal spiritual quality to it. But people are just screaming at you. It's weird. It's not like prayer.

It's really angry prayer. So you're like, I got to get out of this room. You got to get out of this room. So you go through another door and it's the fight room. But everyone is super happy. The entire time. No one's happy. No one's fighting.

They're still just yelling. They're yelling about how great this fight is going to be that never happens. That never happens. Then you were like, I'm annoyed by this. So you leave that room and you keep going. Then there's the crying room. Yes.

Because that's obvious in the next stage. That's where you murder people. You enter the crying room and that's where people are straight up faking crying. Everyone's trying to experience an emotion and they're really overdoing it. You're like, again, this is a very annoying room in Alex's brain.

You proceed through that murder. Yeah. Murder room. Yep. You go into that next room and it's just a murder town. So go into the fourth room. Fourth room is Alex pretending that that murder was technically not his fault.

It's just him laying over a dead body going like, why did you make me kill this man? I'm not responsible. That's not me. Yeah. It's you guys. That's what I assume the doors are like. Yeah.

This is a psychodrama that's playing out on this show. 100%. That is nuts. And I think it's all precipitated by Gavin not playing ball with Alex's wanting to be his dad. Yeah. Like it is the thing where it's like, I've been through this.

I can help you with this. I know where to go. I know what to do. Just listen to me. I'm done. But now I got to yell about killing people. That's the only way for me to do it. It does.

It does seem like a complete. What? I mean, yeah, you're right. It's 100% a reaction to that particular type of stone walling from somebody who Alex respects. Like, yeah, truly. And just to just to like see that inability to directly attack Gavin is why we're going through all of these

different because if it was somebody who wasn't fucking Gavin or or some other, you know, he would just start going after them. Right. I think he did. You know, he did fairly well. I don't know. He did do that sort of with Mike Rotondo,

a 30 year old who wouldn't move out of his parents' house when he was sort of not playing ball. Alex did get a little abusive. Right. Yeah. And he can't really with Gavin because Gavin has clout. So Gavin has a fan base. Exactly.

So he keeps trying to find a different avenue to put all this awful energy and it goes into murder. It goes into crying. It goes into selling shit. But I also think that the reason behind that is that Gavin is one of the few like close to mainstream. Like he's not mainstream, but he's pretty popular people who Alex still has access to who will like.

Right. Maybe be an ally. Right. Milo's pathetic now. He's not good. I don't think Alex is going to go out of his way to like try and court Milo's juice. And then the other people that he has on his fucking show

are like Rappaport, Anthony Cumia, the Fox Day. Yeah. You know, like these people and who's the other? Oh, the fourth hour is hosted by Hagman and Hagman from the Hagman Report. What? They have a YouTube show. Wait, so.

Doug Hagman and whoever the other Hagman is, I can't remember his first name, they do the fourth hour. Fun little trivia about Doug Hagman and the other Hagman. They have this show. Frequent guest of that show, Coach Dave Dobbinmeyer. No, God damn it. Yep. It's six degrees of separation.

Yeah. And Hagman's been on Coach Dave's show. It's all very, very closely connected. Jesus. Yep. So it's almost like there's a shadowy cabal of right wing lunatics who all know each other and guess on each other. It's not a shadowy cabal.

Two fucking spread right wing propaganda. It's not a shadowy cabal. It's more of like a multi-level marketing. That's a great way of putting it. Yeah. So we have one more clip left and it's, we already heard Alex say that he believes Gavin McGinnis to be the white Martin Luther King and we get to this next clip and this is when Alex has sort

of let the demons recede inside himself and they're having more of a normal conversation and Gavin brings up something that he really fucking shouldn't about the civil rights movement. Oh no. I think it goes back to the freedom riders. No. The freedom riders were inarguably cool. So real quick, what he's talking about is like these

Antifa people are trying to latch onto that idea and they think that that's what they're doing. They're being like the freedom riders. The freedom riders, of course, they want to be like because they're cool. They're cool. They're cool. Hold on.

It was cool of them to go to the segregated south with blacks and whites and get the crap beat out of them and say we're not going to stand up to it for sure. It was like it was gone to yet. Yeah. And they had suits on and bloody noses and I think people look at history books and they go, I wish I had a cause. You want to say brave?

Oh really? Okay. So that was incredibly cool. Sorry. That's done now. America's not a racist symbol anymore. There's no, you can't be a freedom rider. You're not white Nazis.

Our audience. You're a Nazi. So this is a mess. Yeah. It is, it is complete lunacy for Alex and Gavin McGinnis to be talking positively about the freedom riders because the story of the freedom riders strongly undercuts the entire idea of states rights.

You see, the reason that the freedom riders had to do what they did was because the southern states were engaging in non-enforcement of supreme court decisions that ruled that segregated public spaces like buses were unconstitutional. In response, people challenged the segregation and were beaten and arrested by police and civilians alike. They brought attention to the reality that the larger public didn't want to see and because of their actions, the argument

that the civil rights movement was making was immeasurably strengthened. They showed specifically and clearly how violence was being used to uphold the system of segregation and was a huge part of the passage of the civil rights act a few years later. Alex and literally everyone who has inspired his path in life hate the civil rights act. And the thing is that something like the civil rights act was

necessary because states were hiding behind states rights arguments to ignore rulings about human rights. If Alex and Gavin McGinnis were around in 1961, Alex would have been on the radio yelling about how the freedom riders were agitators who just hate white men and how the Congress of racial equality was funded by Soros. Gavin McGinnis would be leading groups of proud boys to intimidate the riders into accepting the status quo,

which incidentally is exactly what the Klu Klux Klan did back then. That's what they would have been doing in that circumstance. There is no doubt about it. Now, if you want to say that some of these people who are, you know, protesting for equal rights with for women, people out at the women's march, maybe some of them are doing it to put it on Instagram. Sure. Who gives a shit? Yeah, who gives a shit that doesn't undercut the point of

the the protest or anything like that. You want to say that some people are posers. Some of your proud boys are posers. You know, who cares? That argument doesn't hold water. It doesn't mean anything. What does mean something is what's behind the principles of the things and the principles that Alex Jones and Gavin McGinnis put into the world very clearly mirror the people

who were against the freedom riders in 1961. There is no way away from that and the fact that Alex's intellectual predecessors, the people he cites as his inspiration for the path he took in life, were the people who were against them in the 60s. It hears shit like this and I'm just like, this is offensive. This is this is like trying to co-op the the positive history of change without having to live a life in accordance with the

change that they brought. Yeah, it's a bummer. In every possible way, it is condescending to the freedom riders. Like really, that's your adjective for the freedom riders. Well, I agree. They were very cool. That's not where it starts. That's where you're going to go. Oh man. You know what I think of when I think of the freedom riders?

Very cool. Very illegal. Cool dudes. I think of Poochie the dog. That's what I think of. Spuds Mackenzie. Yeah, exactly. What the fuck are you?

Yeah, that is a good point. Declaration that, oh, well, you can't be the freedom riders because racism's over. We live in a post-racial bubble, which is the same. Like even the watered down people during the civil rights era weren't, even the ones who were like, hey, we don't need to kill black people. They're like, why are you against this? Racism solves.

See segregation. Now we don't have to deal with it. Racism's over. You guys want to be the civil rights north versus south. This slavery's over, guys. You can't be as cool as the fucking civil war. Like fuck you. And if Gavin wants to make the argument that progress has been made

and meaningful progress has been made, no one's going to argue with that. You're damn right. But we're like a generation or maybe two past that point, since the freedom riders time. And you do have to recognize, no matter what kind of a shithead you are, if you want to live in reality, you do have to recognize the diminished rights in terms of owning capital, owning property, those sorts of things that were applied to minorities in that time,

especially in the south. You have to recognize that that still exists. The effects of that are lingering to this day. And if you reject that, if you deny that, then you're not living in reality. I mean, don't even bother. Look, hey, let's say that we're moving past the freedom riders or whatever. So that whole thing is done. When did the official federal policy of redlining end?

It was long, long after that. We're not even talking about just the economic. Urban renewal. Yeah. We're talking about stuff that has been going on and is still going on in order to financially depress black people. Great. So it's like the races were like, fine, we can't kick you off the bus.

You're not allowed to live here, here, here. You're not allowed to own this, that or that. And our president was actively involved in that when he was a real estate guy. So that's pretty cool. Yep. Oh, it's so good. Oh, they defend that president. Oh, no, no, no, no.

Come on, come on. Because he's totally cool. Hey, no, no, no. He loves the freedom riders. He just doesn't want them to own or exist. Yeah. But it's good that we live in a post. We're past it.

We're past. We're all over it. It's all good now. You can't be a freedom rider anymore. What are you fighting against, Dan? There's just nothing to fight against. Nothing. No, come on.

So this brings us to the end of our present day episode. It's an interesting couple of days, or Alex's way off base on a lot of stuff. And I think that in terms of a Gavin McGinnis appearance, that is about as painless as it's going to be. Yeah. Yeah. It did cut out a lot of him just saying stupid stuff,

because I think the broader picture of Alex really trying to pep him up and being like, no. Yeah. And Alex freaking out about it is much more important. I think that's the real story in this, is that Alex is still trying to recruit allies or retain allies in the ideological struggle. And Gavin is pretty much over it.

He doesn't really want to get in the water. And Alex sees that as a threat to his own ability to get back on Facebook, I guess. I mean, it's like if they can, you know, if they can beat this guy that I admire or respect. Well, he's his elder. Yeah. If they can beat him, they can beat me.

So I have to make sure he's not beaten. Otherwise, I'm going to have to admit to myself what everybody else already knows, which is that I am beaten to. The writing is on the wall. Yeah. And once that trade agreement gets ratified, we might see a massive change in Alex. We'll see.

I don't know. But all in all, his show is still incredibly boring. I should say that like, I know that it seems like I say that on every modern day reminder, the show is still terrible. Well, like in terms of my week, you know, the work is, you know, finding something interesting to talk about for Wednesday, going into the past for Monday and then doing the present stuff.

The present stuff is what I dread the most because I know it's just going to be hours of. And, you know, you'll listen to two hours of shit, and then he'll lie about the Boy Scouts. And I'm like, ooh, that's not how I want to live my life. So the present day episodes suck in the his show. They're stupid and boring. And I look forward to him making some sort of real change.

But I don't know, don't know, don't know, don't know, don't know, don't know, don't know, don't know, don't know. Just wants some block rocking beats and his rhetoric. But we have a website. Oh, yes, we do have a website. It's knowledgefight.com. It is indeed. We're on, we're on the Twitters.

That's true. Haven't been kicked off yet. There we were there. We're on the Facebook. Yep. We have a group called Go Home and Tell Your Mother You're Brilliant. We're on iTunes, subscribe, leave a review.

I heard that reviews are important. And also it's like they don't count listens as much as they do downloads. Right? I don't know. Something like that. I don't know. I don't know.

I'm just hearing things. Yeah, I know. You hear all sorts of stuff. I don't know how iTunes works in terms of it. I don't ever expect it will be anywhere ranked on it. And I don't really even give a shit. So please download, listen, do all the stuff that you want to do. We're the number one Alex Jones podcast in your heart.

Yep. Whether or not iTunes says a goddamn thing. That's what you need to know. They don't have tracking for that. I think they're actively working on making sure they never have tracking for that. Yeah. What else do we got?

Oh, well, I mean, Gavin has almost certainly been at least the inspiration for the death of somebody. Maybe. So we can't do that. Ed McMahon. You can't prove anything. Fair enough. Oh, wait.

I thought you were going to accuse him of murder. I'll say he hasn't. He probably hasn't killed anybody. As best we know. Although it was a wild time in Hollywood back when he was alive. I had no idea. The 70s were weird. At press time, we have no evidence that Ed McMahon has ever

killed anybody. But one guy technically probably has. And that is Alex Jones. Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. Hello, Alex. I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan.

I love your work. I love you.