Knowledge Fight - #242: December 18-19, 2018

Episode Date: December 21, 2018

Today, Dan and Jordan set out to see how Alex Jones is doing in the aftermath of Roger Stone having to settle a lawsuit about how he lied about a guy on InfoWars. What they found was unsatisfying on that front, but they did find Alex spending a day yelling about Ben Shapiro, and a second day of him being a real dick about a child whose life he disagrees with.

Andi and Chanzos, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. Hello, Alex. I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you. Hey, everybody. Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes like to sit around, drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Indeed, we are. Dan?

Yep. Dan! Jordan. What was the last job you quit? The last job, well, I mean, the last job I quit was the accounting job over at that coffee distributor. I forgot that you quit that. I thought it was that it had gone out of business. No, I had fears that it was going to be still going strong. And it might have been my fault that it seemed like it was going out of business because I am

not an accountant. I don't know what I was doing in that job. How about before that? Like really quit a job. You know what I'm saying? Like a real blowout kind of quit. I can tell you my favorite story of that, but it's a long time in the past. Then let's do that. This is back from Missouri. I worked at an office depot. Oh, OK. Well, then this is going to be a great story. It was a terrible, terrible job because a lot of it involves like lifting heavy

pallets of paper and putting them up way up like 15 feet in the air or whatever. For sure. And you know, we don't have fork lifters walking up ladders with huge boxes. It was miserable. The guy who trained me was this guy who was like really into evangelizing. So most of the time he was talking to me about God, right? Just like, I don't want I don't want any of this. I don't want any of this.

There was one person who worked there. It was really nice to me. She was like, maybe around my age or a couple years older, somewhere in that range. And we struck up a little bit of a friendship and then maybe a week into me working there, it turned out she wanted me to swing with her and her husband. All right. All right. How old were you at the time? I was 20. Oh, OK.

Yeah, that's fine. It wasn't fine. That's fine. I wasn't. I wasn't. Sometimes you're a co-worker and her husband. That's fine. If I could go back, I might take them up on it. But at that point, no, I was not there for that. Totally. I wasn't evolved and into my own sexuality yet.

Right. So I'm still working on it. It's it's a process. So I'm working there and the boss is also just a complete asshole. And I have to be at work generally at like six in the morning. It's just awful. It's a miserable job. I haven't worked there all that long. And one day I just wake up and I'm sitting around with my roommate,

Nicky Gifts, he was also up and I'm like, I don't want to go in. He's like, you don't have to. Like, you're right. So it's really early in the morning and I call in and I realize like, I don't want to go to work, but I also don't want to take responsibility for not wanting to go to work. Right. So I call him and I'm like, hey, boss, can't make it in today. My car is not working. And he's like, can you get a taxi?

Like, I don't I don't have any cash, man. I can't get a taxi. I'm sorry. I just can't make it in. I'll pay for your taxi. Exactly. Oh, yeah. That was his next fall. Oh, so fast. And so then I'm like, I don't want you to have to pay for me to come in to work. No, no, no, no. I need you here today. Today's an important day. I'm like, look, man, I just I feel bad taking your money for a cab.

It's like, all right. No, I'm willing. It's not even it's not even my personal money. It's the office's money. Now he let go of it quicker than you did. And he was like, OK, I'll get an employee to come pick you up then. And I realized that I had nowhere else to go. No, there's no you just got to quit. I was just like, look, man, I'm not coming in.

So he just yells, fuck you. That was the Jesus guy, right? No, no, no. Oh, OK. He he was not the boss. He was my my trainer. That was a miserable time. That was my my championship. I guess maybe you could say I got fired from that job.

But I was in a certain sense. I was thrilled for it to come. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's what there's so many there's so many instances in life where you have those like those moments where you realize like, you think it's going to be a big deal. And then afterwards, you're just like, just a weight is lifted. You cannot have that job.

Yeah, yeah, you could just not do it. I didn't understand that privilege, too, in terms of like, I lived in Columbia, Missouri, rent was almost nothing. Right. And and there were jobs aplenty. So it wasn't like, you know, at least jobs aplenty that would pay almost nothing in rent. Right. Exactly. Yeah, the circumstances were perfect to be able to do something like that.

Right. Right. I've had a lot of jobs. I've had so many fucking jobs. I my favorite quitting story was me not quitting because I didn't understand that I was an adult and could just go, I don't work here anymore. Yeah. I worked at a shitty like a lumber yard

for nearly two and a half weeks. And I realized two and a half weeks in, I was like, I hate this every moment of it. I don't like being there. I don't like the people. I don't like anything. And I realized that I had recently like cut my elbow in this accident. And it was already my surgically repaired elbow

from when I was a younger. So I was like, OK, all right, I can sell this. I can work with this, right? Right. And I didn't think it looked bad enough. So what I did was I got a knife. Oh, my God. And I took this open wound and I just started sawing at it for real. No, seriously.

Swear to God, I know I'm a lunatic because I didn't understand I could just quit. I thought I had I came up with the worst fake injury that I made. And it's not like an injury gets you out of the job. No, no. Maybe a workman's comp. Well, it was it. It was a I grabbed shit from things in a forklift. So I assume if you have to be able to use your elbow in order to do so.

But that'll heal. So that was so. But that was my argument for being like, hey, I'm going to have to take all this time off. And you know what? I just I think you guys should find somebody else for the job. That was the way I put it. You had to be like as like as like an act of altruism. I was like, listen, I'm quitting,

but not because I don't want to do this. No, because you need somebody who's more reliable and who's not going to get hurt. It's not you. It's me. Exactly. 100% how I quit that job. Are you asking this because this is your way to ease into quitting the podcast? No, absolutely not. OK, I'm asking this because our boy, Mad Dog, Madis is gone.

That is true. He is quitting. It's like quitting going on, but something I can't quit. Nice transition is loving our donors. I like to give a shout out to a couple of new donors who signed up with the podcast. First of all, Caleb, thank you so much. You are now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you, Caleb. Thank you very much, Caleb.

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You can do that by going to our website, KnowledgeFight.com, clicking that button that says support the show in bada-bing, bada-boom. That's where you go. That's it. Then you're a policy wonk. You're just like Paul Ryan, who also quit. Yes, he did. Lot of quitters. It's, it's amazing how much wonkery he did policy while he was.

What did he, he had good ideas. Did he have good ideas? People have said that. I thought he was about the deficit, which I assume has completely disappeared under his fixed it. Oh, okay. Good. So, um, one thing I want to say before we get going, first of all, this is a podcast where I know a lot about Alex Jones.

And I only know what you tell me about it, but it's also a podcast where from time to time we've got to do a little thing called the Spice Report. Everyone knows. Oh, I literally had no idea what you were talking about. Is this a segment we did two years ago that I forgot about? Kind of. It's a segment from my old podcast that people need updates on. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You like spicy. I like spicy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That I got. I'm on the wall of a Thai restaurant here in town. I've tried the off, off menu too spicy for the menu chicken fingers over at the, uh, the Nashville hot place here in town. Oh yeah.

I've bested a lot of the challenges that have come my way, but it's very difficult to find like super hot peppers here in Chicago. I don't know why we're one of the biggest cities in the country. But yet I cannot find a store that sells really hot, hot sauces or peppers. And so I'm sort of redlining maybe I'm left in a lurch. Everybody tells me go to the Indian grocery store. Everyone tells me go to the, uh, the Asian grocery stores. I've tried some of the ones that I've been able to find and I have been left

lacking. However, I accidentally stumbled into a spice shop today and Jordan, I found puree. Oh wow. Of Carolina Reaper sauce. That is not a sauce. That's literally just pure. That's just a bunch of hot peppers poured into a, it is just Carolina

Reapers and vinegar in there. Oh boy. Oh boy. Is it hot? Oh, it's pretty hot. It's, it's great. Does it taste good? It tastes very good.

Cause that's another issue you have with so many hot sauces. You don't like hot for hot sake. No, no, no, and I don't prefer a ghost pepper because there's a muskiness to it that I'm not a, I'm not a super big fan of. I think this tastes great, but boy, it's hot. And that has been the spicer. I really wish that you could try some of it, but I know you would never consent to it.

Dude, no, I can't do it. Um, it's great. But also now I realize that, I mean, it, it is technically like, I guess the world's hottest pepper and now there's nowhere else to go. It's a little, Are you getting whistful? Have you climbed to top the mountain and now have no more worlds left to conquer? I'm not, I'm, I'm fine with it because I think a lot of different peppers have

different flavors and different, uh, like sort of characteristics to them. And so there's still a lot more to explore and all that. And it's different if you have a puree, then a fresh shower. So there's still plenty of spicy things in my, my future to, uh, go into, but I will say I put a good bit of it on some ramen earlier, mix that shit all up. Oh boy. And, uh, in terms of like heat level, that's very serious, but it's pretty close to like a level, level seven or eight at the Thai place.

Uh-huh. There, there's, they've got higher levels. They got higher levels. Yeah. The record is a guy who ate like 20 or something like that. Oh no. It, uh, yeah. He was an actual ghost though.

He may have been later on the toilet, ghost on the toilet. My point is, my point is very serious, uh, very hot, but, uh, I don't know what my point is. Anyway, it's just an announcement. I finally found some Carolina Reaper sauce and it's, uh, fine. Oh boy. Dan made me sweat a lot. Dan much like Alexander the great at 26 crying salt tears for there are no more

worlds left to conquer. Perhaps. Yes. So this has been 11 minutes of bullshit up top has nothing to do with Alex Jones talking about some peppers and about quitting jobs, but this is a podcast about Alex Jones. So it only is right that we jump into it. Absolutely.

So Jordan today, what we're going to be doing is going over December 18th and 19th, 2018. All right. Present day business. Okay. Now, one of the reasons that I wanted to do present day is we seem to be coming into this pattern where we do a present day at the end of the week. Yeah.

I don't mind like a weekend wrap up. Yeah. That kind of thing. And also this week has been a fraught with peril for Alex Jones. There's been a lot of stuff that's been going on. He had that Flynn sentencing hearing that did not go great. Hmm. Uh, that, that was kind of confusing on a lot of fronts.

I think everybody was a bit taken aback by that. Particularly Michael Flynn. Yeah. And his lawyer. Very strange. Wait, wait, wait, wait, they, they recommended nothing. They recommended nothing. And then the judge is like, Hey, surprise, dudes.

Uh, you for real committed treason. It's called a recommendation. Uh, I'm not sure what that judge was doing editorializing like that. I don't know. I don't, I don't know if that's fully appropriate, uh, but a lot of people on Twitter seem to love it. So I don't know. I don't know what to make of it.

But judge is pretty crazy. Yeah. I mean, why not? So your wild oats on that bench, I mean, you, you see so many judges all of a sudden come out of nowhere and declare the entirety of the ACA unconstitutional. Sure. Judges are judges are wackadoo. So that was one piece of the week that I thought Alex would really be, uh, you

know, into and complaining about trying to spin, but more importantly, the reason we're starting on the 18th on Tuesday is because on Monday night news broke that Roger Stone had settled the defamation lawsuit against him coming from a man named Miles Kwok. The suit was about how Roger Stone kept saying that he had, uh, this Kwok had made illegal contributions to Hillary Clinton and was working against Trump in concert with Steve Bannon. Also, Roger kept accusing Kwok of having been convicted of financial crimes in

the United States. Right. This is demonstrably not true. So Miles Kwok sued Roger Stone for a hundred million dollars. That's a good amount. Roger Stone completely fucked up here. And so he called Kwok and asked him to settle the lawsuit, which Kwok graciously agreed to do because he's Roger Stone, though, he refused to take any responsibility

saying that he, his angle on it was he, quote, failed to do his own research and improperly relied on former Trump campaign advisor Sam Nunberg. Is he a time traveling Loki now? What is going on here? So he threw Sam Nunberg under the bus. Of course. Who was the guy who got drunk and went on all those, uh, those talk shows? Uh, remember that?

Remember Sam Nunberg? No, he was that guy who was clearly drunk on CNN. And the host was like, I can smell alcohol. No, really? Yeah, I've never, I've never watched CNN. Well, it was, it made the rounds. But this is how much of a fucked up world we live in now. That should be the kind of thing that we remember 20 years from now as a monumental

TV fuckup. A drunk guy on television on a nationally syndicated news program. That's a whole different story. A drunk guy who's talking shit about the president and his employees who, who until recently was like, it was embarrassing for everybody. And now, uh, Roger Stone is repurposing him as the fall guy for this bad information that he reported on, uh, that led to a hundred million dollars. That's a clever, uh, that's a clever take on it.

So Kwok agreed to drop his suit, provided that Roger post a retraction to info wars, his Facebook page and Roger's own website, the Stone Zone. Unfortunately, this is how things work, you know, propagandists make outrageous and libelous claims, which cause damage immediately. Then often they get away with it. But even when they're sued, they pull at all shucks who me act and the better natures of the person who's suing them are exploited. Roger's going to print a retraction, but the damage has already been done.

And no one who heard the original slander will care about the retraction. Absolutely. They'll either be like, Oh, this is so smart. This is how he gets out of, uh, having to pay this guy money. Uh, it, or it'll just be like, uh, Roger just, it's a globalist plot against him or whatever, discount everything. And they'll still be able to, uh, believe everyone still believes whatever he said initially.

Retractions don't matter. Alex pretends that he, uh, has apologized to everybody who he slandered. No one, none of his fans give a shit. Yeah, if we had the chance, if we had the chance to give advice on it and anybody who's running their next defamation lawsuit, which I'm sure, I'm sure they will do call us, believe me, we will give you amazing advice through the whole process and that will be, that will be get every fucking sent out of those guys that you could ever possibly get and leave them

destitute on the street or punish them further. Like an apology or retraction or whatever. I know that that's probably what is in the realm of decency and whatever you think is like, well, they said this, the right thing is that they just say that they were wrong. We are fighting undecent men. Exactly. These are, these are people with bad faith and, uh, you need a little bit

more than just a retraction. I'm not saying send them to the poor house or anything like that. Like a hundred million dollars is a pretty crazy high amount. No, I love it. It's, I love it. It's a great starting point. It's ambitious. That is, that is like the reverse of Dr.

Evil in Austin powers where he says one million dollars and everybody laughs at him. A hundred million is pursuing just some asshole. That's a good starting point. I like it. I would say like, uh, you, instead of a retraction, what you have to do is do, uh, interview with that person. Like, uh, Miles quack gets to sit down and broadcast on info wars talking to Roger Stone.

Ooh, that's nice. Because then Roger can't lie to his face or whatever. Hmm. You know, I don't know. I don't know. That doesn't satisfy me. I would like nothing will be satisfying. No, I, here's what I would go with.

Let's go with a more creative punishment as opposed to retributive. It needs to involve humiliation somehow. We, I, Roger's, I would like all of Roger Stone's suits and he is never allowed to buy another suit again. I'm fine with that. If I get the hats, fine, fine, we, we divide his wardrobe and his wardrobe from here on out is jeans and a t-shirt. His hats might be useless to me though.

He has a straight and shaped head. Not important. It's not about wearing them. It is for me. Those are some nice hats. Yeah, but you would never fit into a Roger Stone hat. Probably not. I also have a giant hat.

You got a, you got a bit of a dome on you. Yeah, I know. I'm sorry. So anyway, this news broke on Monday night. So I thought for sure on Tuesday, Alex is going to be furious about this because the way the news covered it and like the hill and I believe Huffington Post also, they reported it accurately, but what they do is they use these headlines that lead people to go a little bit off track.

So they said that Roger Stone settles lawsuit and has to admit he published fake stories on info wars, which technically is true because he was the person who was making these claims. Info wars reported them and they published them. Absolutely. That is strictly true, but of course people ran with it and were like, he admitted he lies all the time on there. And so I thought for sure Alex was going to be like, they're just trying to make

me out to be a liar and all this. And so I was surprised to hear this at the beginning of the show as he's running down his headlines for the day. MK ultra far worse than previously known. Special report. Roger Stone. Well, generations. These save us from our millennials.

Roger. So this is Watson video. Roger started history of pedophilia and the political left. Greg Reese in full wars.com is going to get to the news about Roger Stone. Expert Bitcoin soon worthless. Big surprise. We're going to get to the news about Roger any moment now and can produce. I mean, there's no way to pick your top stories with all this.

I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't know what that is, except like a man trying to distract himself. Like it's insane. He sounds so resigned too. He's like MK ultra worse than before. And then there's pedophiles. Am I, are we, are we still doing pedophiles? I guess we're still doing pedophiles.

I will, I will damn Alex with faint praise here and say that like he's been surrounded by a lot of fucking con men who do Bitcoin scams. He's had a number of people who have been like, he's had, what about max? How's max coin doing on the market? I think it's still at like a tenth of a cent. It's still at a tenth of a cent. Oh boy.

But like he, Max Kaiser is someone who has tried to get him into Bitcoin. He's had like Dave Seaman on the show and stuff like that. He's had a lot of these, uh, these fraudsters running around, trying to get him to be, uh, the next big endorsement of Bitcoin in order to pump and dump. Basically Alex Jones to endorse it. A bunch of his people buy it. The price goes up. Get rid of it.

Get rid of it. Call it a bag. To them holding the bag. Exactly. Simple scam. And to his credit, he has always resisted it. So when he's saying Bitcoin will soon be worthless, I kind of feel good about him saying that because it is something he's, he's never denounced.

But at the same time, every time he talks about it, he's like, I just don't get it. I don't think this is good. He just doesn't get it though. Like unlike many financial analysts who are like, I don't get why people are doing this. Alex just doesn't understand it as a concept entire. But he's been tricked into so many things he doesn't fully understand before.

I don't know why he's had the restraint on this one. Might be because of his just like innate love and 20 year career as a shill for a guy who sells gold and silver. Right, right, right. He might just be obsessed with hard currency. It has to be physical. I think there's a part of that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But I don't know, whatever the case, the next story after that is a study about how fresh vegetables are better than canned vegetables. And then he says, how do you pick a top story? I don't know. Yeah. How do you pick a top story? There's amazing news. Dan, how do you pick a top story?

Fresh vegetables are better than canned vegetables. Holy shit. Top story. Who thunk it? Solved it. Wow. And that's, that's the trick. I am amazed.

I'm not. I actually. I'm amazed that makes the cut. I am, I'm actually, I'm actually shocked that you are surprised by this because my, my first thought whenever you said like, I'm surprised he goes off on this was like, oh, he actually talks about it. Because what's not surprising to me is that he is just avoiding it entirely without any interest whatsoever.

Sometimes I'm being facetious. Okay, fine. Well, then. So then after that, Alex, uh, moves along to talk about how there's, uh, there's trouble afoot over at Fox News. What's our top story? Uh, it's not this. I've talked to many of the top Fox News hosts who have been called into rooms

the last two years and screamed at that they better turn against Trump or they will be removed off the air. About two years ago, Fox became very anti-Trump for a while. They lost half their ratings. That ran back and allowed people to be pro Trump and all the listeners came back. But Sean Hannity never wavered. When Tucker Carlson was brought on, he was not a hundred percent behind Trump. Uh, and, and so that's why they thought he was a good guy.

But once he saw the stakes, he's become pro Trump and he's in the crosshairs. Whatever. Sure. Um, I don't care about this. It's really just because Alex is mad because his buddy Judge Andrew Napolitano has been going all over TV saying like, I think that Mueller can call for the indictment of the sitting president. Near two months ago, Alex was saying that and, and thank God his angle was thank God.

This is the case. Napolitano next Supreme Court judge. Now Napolitano is going around. He's going around TV saying that Mueller can indict the president. Well, because he's not the next Supreme Court judge. So that's possible. Yeah. And now Alex is fucking ruined by it.

He is furious. He can't stop like, you think you know your friends? That's the only thing. And Napolitano is still on the show though, right? What are you talking about? On, he's on Fox News. He's not on Alex's show. I thought he was on Info Wars.

No, no. Okay. He's been a guest in the past. Okay. That's, that's what I'm. I think one episode we covered, they did a weird thing where they were broadcasting together. That's right.

We're doing a simulcast. It was super uncomfortable. But yeah, it's, it's, it's fun. Alex is sort of realizing that some of his friends are more sensible than others. And the sensible ones are starting to be like, That's such a weird position to be in where it's like, the friend that I trust the most is going to go to jail and has just been successfully forced to print a retraction.

The least possible punishment you can get. Here's what the punishment was. Journalistic diligence. If you were wrong, post a retraction. Right. That's the punishment. Even if it, even if Sam Nunberg did tell you this stuff, you can't report that. Right.

Like you, you can't, you didn't say, like when he was, when I've heard Roger talk about Miles Kwok before, he never says, Sam Nunberg told me he's a criminal. Yeah. Which would have given him so much headway. He never said anything like that. He's like, this guy is a fucking criminal as long as in prison. Right. The guy I trust the most.

Well, he's going to jail and the guy that I used to trust, he is giving a milk toast legal argument that makes sense. I hate him. It's brutal. Which one do I trust? Dan, I'm going to stick with Roger stone, ride or die. So he goes to break and he comes back and he starts a weird sort of, just a little bit of a diatribe.

It ends up, it's about PewDiePie. And we're not going to talk too much about that. But the way he gets into it is really interesting. This is the really interesting part. Did you have speech? I like romstein. You know why we came in with romstein or one of the most popular bands out of Germany in the last 20 years?

Because this is the exact time the left engages in where they claim they're a Nazi band because they speak German. They're actually a leftist band that I would pretty much call anti-German, though the music is pretty interesting. Wait. But you see, I first learned about their music 20 years ago or so in lost highway. Weird. Which is a great film.

It is a great film. But to understand what's happening with PewDiePie, you have to understand the entire globalist program and then it's going into high gear. And it's final phase of the extinction of speech. So I love this angle. His argument seems to be that these people are calling PewDiePie a Nazi. And it's just to attack them in the same way they did to romstein. Which I'm going to talk about them a little bit here.

Wait, you're going to talk about a band from 20 years ago that you know an inexplicably large amount about? The reason people think they're Nazis is really interesting. And it wasn't many people. I thought it was obvious that they weren't Nazis. No, it is to most people. Oh, okay. There are a couple things that deserve discussion about this.

Okay. But there are people, there are groups in the past who have come out who seem denocuous and all and then it turns out, oh, they have fascist leaning. Like Chumble Wump. Exactly. Chumble Wumba or whatever they're doing. Chumble Wumba. They're fascist leaning.

Yeah, they are fascist leaning. Isn't it crazy? Yeah. So you have these things that you start, you know, you end up learning things about bands that you didn't know about. And music and celebrity entirely is the realm of like people coming up with a rumor about a band and it's entirely out of control or whatever. But the thing that I think is fascinating is that Alex is like,

I became aware of them from the Lost Highway soundtrack. I mean, it's a good soundtrack, but Chumble, not Chumble Wumba. Romstein has two songs on that soundtrack and they were not hits. The hits from that soundtrack were The Perfect Drug by Nine Inch Nails. Yep. I by Smashing Pumpkins and then there's a third, but I can't remember what it was, but it wasn't Romstein. It's, oh, is that Marilyn Manson song?

I can't remember what it was called. Fuck. Who cares? The point is like Alex had to have listened to that soundtrack. Like he had to have really liked that soundtrack. I had that soundtrack when I was a kid. I jammed out to it. Really?

Yeah. I really liked that I by Smashing Pumpkins and The Perfect Drug. I thought those were awesome. And I was probably 12 when it came out. I am surprised. I might have been younger than 12. How could you, why would you have the Lost Highway soundtrack if you, because wait, so you're, did you also see the movie when you were 12?

No, no, no. I was going to say. I heard I on the radio. Oh, okay. Smashing Pumpkins on the radio. So you then got the soundtrack. And then later I saw the movie and I thought it was interesting and stuff, but no, my parents would never let me watch.

I was going to say. My parents were very, it's shocking even that I had, I had to have been older than 12. First album I ever bought was Alanis Morissette's Jagged Little Pill. Yeah, but that's. And my parents made me return it because it was. Really? Because the language was too offensive.

I'm sorry. This generation defining album is a little bit too offensive for you, Dan. Well, there was that go down on you in a theater line. And there was that one hand in my pocket. And the other one is, uh, hey, don't, we don't, don't say it on this show. Yeah. My parents were like, this is scandals, nothing more humiliating than going back to the mall to return my Alanis Morissette CD.

Cause my mom made me. Not a great child. Can you imagine the, the, the, the guy who was taking that CD back? What must he have been thinking after he saw, after he saw you buy. Jagged Little Pill and album where he was like, good album. Yeah man. Everybody loves this album. Yeah.

It's a great album. Universally enjoyed. Full of hits album. You have to bring it back and say, my mom told me I can't listen to it. But my demeanor probably said it for me. I would assume. Yeah. So anyway, Alex is a real idiot talking about Romstein to make a point about

people like PewDiePie being called a Nazi. We've already seen that he has no idea that their song America that he plays as a bumper is explicitly anti-America, anti-colonialist, pro-multicultural, uh, as a song. So it would be easy just to discount this as Alex being stupid, but it actually brings up an interesting point. What's that? Romstein belongs to a genre of music that relies heavily on provocation and sensationalism. And so their music has often been intended to shock.

Thus they make allusions to and jokes about a whole lot of taboo topics. This sort of behavior led to strong rebukes from the right wing, not the left, when a band broke, uh, when the song Duhast came out. No, that doesn't sound right. The right wing getting angry at music? That doesn't sound, that's not there. It's not there. No, come on, Dan.

One of the chief issues is that they use a vocal style of speaking German that is intentionally amplifying the harshness and hardness of the German language. It's a beautiful language. They're doing that as a stylistic choice to make their sound more confrontational, which is a huge element of their success. However, it's also a speech pattern and style that is largely associated with Nazi speeches, particularly Hitlers, especially for people with a limited, uh, awareness of tons of, uh, manners of speech.

Yeah, of course. The members of Romstein grew up in East Germany during the period before the wall came down. Their name is a direct reference to the Romstein airshare disaster of 1988, where 70 people died and 346 more were seriously injured at a West German air show at the U.S. Air Base there. They're into antagonizing people. It's part of their craft. Oh, also in 1988, they used footage from a Lenny Riefenstahl film in their video for

the song Stripped. So that also kind of, that led to a bit of a, hey guys, what are you doing? Right. Why are you using Lenny Riefenstahl footage in this? Like, what artistic point are you trying to make? And if you understand them more fully in terms of like trying to antagonize people, trying to make a statement out of this, uh, it makes sense. But the critiques there weren't coming from left-wing people who wanted to label them a

Nazi. It was two bands that were on the same record label as them that were like, what the fuck? That was the criticism that was coming about them using Lenny Riefenstahl footage. So like, all of the critiques that Alex is talking about come from people who don't understand what their music is, and almost to a man, were not in the camp that he is trying to pretend that they are. Yeah, I'm shocked by that, that it's like, I've always understood Romstein to be like a literal, hey, we looked at German history, we're not fans, and here's the music that

we think best represents how we're going to fucking fight these, uh, and not, and as we can see now, not just remnants of fascism, but, uh, very strong undercurrents of fascism that still permeate Germany through this day. Yeah, and another element of it too, though, for them, uh, in terms of their sort of mystique and vibe and why people might, especially outside of Germany, look at them and be like, what the fuck, is that they got banned from performing choreography for one of their songs in Germany because it was deemed offensive and dangerous to children. Because they would do things like simulate anal sex with sex toys on each other and stuff

on stage, they were fucking wild. I assume Guar is not allowed anywhere near Germany, right? Probably, but so they were banned, and like one of their album covers was even banned from being displayed in German stores and stuff like that, so they had this aura of being, you know, looked down on and censored and stuff like that. But in Germany, you can totally understand their laws airing on the side of caution towards anything along those lines, you know, you get it. No, I understand that.

You see, you see how a course correction might go a little bit too far in the opposite direction based on the, you know. My point is more that like, uh, anybody who had critiques of, uh, of Romstein in that direction back then weren't in the camp that Alex is pretending they were in, and they were very vocal about talking about those accusations even back then and being like, fuck, no, it's not what we're into. Yeah. And then everybody's like, oh, sorry.

Cool. Sorry. All right. So, you know what? We missed it the first time, but now that you pointed it out, you make a great point. You're right. We're moving on. You're still Romstein.

We're still us. Let's just have a great time. So that's one musician. And then Alex launches into this whole thing about they're calling PewDiePie a Nazi because they want to silence him because he's too powerful. I thought it was because he was a Nazi. Seems that way. Or at least, uh, doesn't seem to understand the conversation that's being had about him

promoting people who have, if he believes, or, uh, thinking it's funny to have, uh, people hold up a sign that says kill all the Jews, that sort of thing. Who knows? Anyway, I don't want to unpack the PewDiePie stuff because what Alex is talking about isn't even real about PewDiePie. So it's, it's irrelevant. It's about Alex. Yeah.

He's taught, he's using PewDiePie as a surrogate for his own feelings. I don't understand. But what he talks about Romstein there. And then he talks about another musician that I have more feelings about. Ted Nugent can fill up stadiums of 20,000, 40,000 people. He's been told to stop supporting Trump and we'll let you play in stadiums again, but only three companies own the big stadiums. No.

So Ted Nugent can't play basically anywhere except City on Coliseums like Waco. Because he won't play ball, he loses $15 million a year. How do you know that? That's directly from Ted Nugent. I looked it up in publications. Ah, that makes sense. It's directly from Ted. I heard it.

There we go. I heard it from Ted. Directly from Ted. And I looked it up in publications and it's true. I looked it up in the publications of. Site your sources. Haven't you been to how much money are Trump-leaning musicians losing.com? I haven't.

I haven't seen that. It is the number one way research. Somehow I haven't found that. Yeah, it's crazy. But it's all just Ted Nugent complaining. So look, dude. I think Keith Urban is on there. So Ted Nugent went on a summer tour in 2018.

On July 7th, Nugent played the Iowa Speedway in Newton, Iowa that seats 30,000 people, which is comparable to any stadium. It's a big. It's very close to the seating of Bush Stadium in St. Louis. Right. Along the way, he played a ton of rock clubs in larger cities and casinos in places like St. Louis and some theaters along the way. It's literally exactly what you'd expect to see from a guy who's never had a song chart higher than

number 30. And that was Cat Scratch Fever, which came out 41 years ago. In fairness, he did reach number 22 on the rock chart with Little Miss Dangerous. But that was 31 years ago. Also, here are some of the lyrics from Little Miss Dangerous. Let's hear it. Quote, High Heel Sneakers. This is another one a year.

It turns out that all of our favorite musicians are pedophiles race. He is not my favorite music. High Heel Sneakers head to toe lace. Such a dangerous body with a little girl's face. Yeah. What's wrong with that? She's my Little Miss Dangerous. I don't understand.

Dangerous to me. What makes her dangerous to you, Dan? That little girl's face. Why would she have a little girl's face? I don't know. Anyway, this seems to be a little bit of a theme in Ted Nugent's music. His 1981 song, Jailbait, includes these lyrics. Quote, Well, I don't care if you're just 13.

You look too good to be true. I just knew that you're probably clean. There's one little thing I got to do to you. Another lyric. What's that? It's all right, baby. It's quite all right. I asked your mama.

Oh, to take her to school one morning. I guess. Oh, well, no, I don't know if that's the case. It's like in the 1700s. Like he would pick her up from her mom's house. They would get in the carriage. Her parents would sit in the front seat. They would court and then she would be dropped off at school.

I don't think that's the case because there's another lyric in the song. Quote, Wait a minute, officer. Wait a minute, officer. Don't put those handcuffs on me. What about her? Hey, I'll share her with you. Seems like it's not about driving someone to school. I don't understand.

Interestingly, the next song on his album that's that album that song comes off of is I'm a predator. Well, but it is important to note. And this is it. Everybody can change. His most recent song, which charted I think 120 or so, was called whoops a doodle my bad. No, I wish that was the case.

Because in 2007, he wrote a deeply disturbing song called girl scout cookies. I wish I was making this up. How many songs about sexually assaulting a minor before you're like, maybe you're just a pedophile. Quote, I like to eat my girl scout cookies. I can eat them all night long. I like I'm late at night when I'm in my bed. Three is a pattern, Dan.

Never let them girl scouts. Never let them go to your head. Also another disturbing lyric quote that coconut just drives me wild. I get my cookies fresh from a child. How gross is that? He wrote that in 2007. I'm looking forward to Trump's inauguration song in 2020, just being Ted Nugent singing.

I want to fuck a kid. Oh, another lyric from that song. In case you think he's actually talking about cookies, which he's not. Are you sure? Quote, I like them thin mints. Nobody likes a fat mint. Boo. I mean, especially because that's just not true.

Also, this album that song comes off of includes a song called bridge over troubled daughters. Jesus, man. I did not realize how insistent he was upon this theme in his music. Well, you know, in 1982, he also recorded a song called habitual offender. So it should make you realize that habitual offender. I wasn't alive. I never really paid much attention to Ted Nugent. I saw that Cat Scratch fever was on like fucking guitar hero one time and I was like,

I think I'm good. I got it. Yeah, I liked Stranglehold when I was younger. There is never a reason to listen to Ted Nugent's music. I thought it was really funny that he had a song called Wango Tango and a song called Wang Dang Sweet Poon Tang. I thought that was fucking hilarious. Again, he is a varied.

So gross. He's a man who does not go back to the well. Dad, everyone is amazed by how he continually reinvents himself. Everybody knows that Ted Nugent is rock and rolls Madonna. That whole thing about like this girl being young and it's like, it's okay. I asked your mama, like that's gross. That would be just super gross, but it's even more gross when you realize that Ted Nugent married, I can't remember if you married or adopted her.

I think he adopted her. I don't like that, that, that, that. No, no, no. That can never, ever be a question you asked either. You could never, ever say to me, I can't remember if he married or adopted as if those are too equally a possible. Either married or adopted an underage girl. So his parents, the parents couldn't complain about him having sex with her.

Yeah. I can't remember what it is, but he is a fucking gross, monstrous dude. And I do think it's really funny that Alex and all of these Ding Dongs spent so much time and continue to and do all the time trying to find this weird, like binteen code to prove that all these Democrats they hate have these secret pedophile dungeons and stuff like that. And they love Ted Nugent. It's crazy.

He's been writing songs for 40 years about how he likes children. It could, maybe, maybe that's the real difference between the left and the right. The left, we got to come up with codes if we're going to commit these crimes. The right, all they got to do is write song lyrics and everybody gets it. I don't know, man. Everybody's like, isn't that great? How he can use metaphor so vividly. It's pretty crazy.

It is nuts to me. That's all I'll say. I just, I don't understand how you get there. Look, I knew it was disgusting. Oh, yeah. I did not know that there were not just one, not just two, not just three. It's an entire career. But an entire career of I want to fuck a child.

Not I want to. I do. Oh, yeah. That's basically what he's saying. 00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:15,440 He's dragging about assaulting minors. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. In his songs and has been and everyone's been like, nah, it's Ted being Ted.

And that's what Hillary wanted to stop. And that's why he was so angry. That must be it. That's the worst thing that Hillary ever wanted to do, which was stop Ted from fucking children. So, sure. But also, pivoting off this. Yeah.

I didn't want to give the impression earlier in the show that Alex doesn't talk about Roger Stone at all because I feel like I might have given that impression. And if I did, I apologize because Alex does get to it. He just doesn't do a great job of covering it when he does. Surprise. Wall Street Journal, the Hill published fake news story about Roger Stone and info wars in the article.

Stone says about statements he made on this show and others before he was even an employee here that he heard about this Chinese national who was wanted in China. And then he said something he got from one Trump official was inaccurate. They took that out of context and did a quote here where they have him saying that it was irresponsible. That turns into headlines. Please show them the Hill article, guys. It's typing Alex Jones everywhere.

Never settle. On the top 100 million right now that Roger Stone admits he published fake news at info wars. He did. He did. No such thing. Nope. We have his actual statement he put out that the lawyers wanted him to put out

to drop the 100 million dollar lawsuit that he would lose against him. Stone admits to publishing false statements on enforce. He did. And then they force feed it on Twitter once I'm removed to make it the top Twitter search. It's been up and down the top 10 searches today. And then once they do that, they put out a video as well saying that oh you see info wars is fake again. Well, yes.

I understand that some people have gone too far with it and they're stupid and they say things like this proves that everything is fake. And that's just people trying that. I think they're a little too eager for the fray and they they hurt the cause of working against propagandists because you kind of have to be pretty specific. And I saw a lot of people that I even like, you know, on Twitter posting things that were a little bit capricious about this. But like, yes, it is.

It is a great thing for Roger to have to admit I did do this. It was not true. It is nice whenever an ostensibly journalistic outlet is forced by lawsuit to say the bare minimum of this thing we published was incorrect. Yeah. Great. Good work, everybody. And the things that were being said in like that Hill article and stuff like that.

It wasn't inaccurate. Right. It's just the way that people ran with it. It was portrayed in a yeah, yeah, yeah. Some sort of a Roger has admitted everything is alive. Right, right, right, right. And I don't think that most people saw it that way. Most anybody who read the article would understand this is a situation where you got sued for

saying a specific thing and he threw Sam Nunberg under the bus and fucking pled it out, settled that shit. What a fucking nightmare. Anyway, the only other thing Alex can do besides like create this false idea that everyone's lying about him and saying that info wars is wrong about everything when I think we have two years of evidence that they're pretty much wrong about everything. All he can do is create straw man arguments in order to help himself. But it shows how desperate they are that falsely claiming that I said that there's

Martian bases with slave children. There's no video, no audio, no text, never said it. Or that currently they misrepresent what I did say in the past. They twist it, exaggerate it and say Jones won't stop harassing families at their houses of Sandy Hook. You know, on the sixth anniversary, Jones sent more people to their houses. They were saying this the last few days. You could just not talk about the lies by the mainstream media.

So no, no, no, no, no, no. He could just not talk. He could just let it go. Because it's a perfect example about how the media lies about him. The media lies about you lose that one. Let it go. Take a take one in the L column. That's fine.

Can't do it too big of an L. So it is a big Mars colony thing is Robert David Steele was on his show and was saying that and Alex did not push back on it at all. And you know, yeah, you did. You did sort of sign off on it tacitly by it being out. But yeah, you didn't say it. Right. One of your guests that you constantly say is correct 100% and is an expert on everything.

Operative. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Guys. So that's that's a push at the very least. You went a bunch of times whenever he insinuated. That's a push. But yeah, fine. You didn't say that whatever.

I don't give a shit. The other thing is, you know, there are people from Sandy Hook who are still getting harassed because of the rhetoric that Alex put into the world. And so these articles that come out are a reminder of the dangers of this rhetoric, not saying that Alex is sending people to their houses, but trying to make clear that when you run with stuff like this, you are creating a life of victimization for victims of crimes. What you're doing is people, people who are the victims of terrorism, quite frankly, are now living their lives being terrorized.

They had to evacuate school or something like that. I can't remember exactly on the anniversary because of people who buy into the narratives that Alex put out into the world. It's not saying that he's sending people to their homes. It's that these are the consequences. Please pay attention. Yep. That's it.

He can't handle that. He takes everything personally and turns it into examples of the media lying about him when he's lying about what the media is saying. So who gives a shit? This is just how propaganda works. It's just, it's why you have to be specific. What fascinated me about the previous two clips is he always knows the Google analytics. Do you know what, whenever he said, the thing that I really, like he's always-

He doesn't, though. No, no, no. The thing that he said was it's been up and down in the top 10 Google searches all day. He's just making that up. Are you sure? Because to me, I feel like he says that plenty of times where it does make sense. No, I'm guessing- Am I?

I'm just way off about that. Yeah, I think you're reaching. I think he probably just has an employee who's lazy and is like tasked with monitoring Twitter or something like that and then because of who they follow, it's trending throughout the day. Gotcha. Oh, look, it's in my side column of 10 things. It's the top 10. Okay.

And then just tells Alex that and he's like, they're doing this. They're pushing it. Gotcha. That sort of thing. All right. And whenever- I retract my interest then. I think he just makes up all sorts of stuff like that that he knows like,

this is going to be too hard for my audience to look up. It's just a fart in the wind. Who gives a shit? See, it's just that that part made so much sense to me because why wouldn't he always be looking at the Google analytics of a story? Because that's something that now that he has no access to that, he's got a piggyback on it. He's always got to find out who is trending on Google, who is trending on Twitter, in order to make sure he's talking about that.

You're imagining he is anybody who does work. Fair, fair point. I will say that I did find a clip in 2009 recently. I don't know if we, I don't think we put it on the show, but it was him talking about how he, you know, he always comes in and he's like, there are thousands of stories about me. There's thousands of- Every day. There's thousands of stories where the New World Order is being announced and stuff like that.

And he discusses how he does it. He just gets on Google and then types in the words New World Order. Right, and he gets one million, yeah. Or whatever. That's what he's going off of. Right, that's true. He's not going off of any kind of real metrics or anything like that. He's just like, oh my god, look at all those results.

I can't believe, look at all those pages. There's so many pages of results. It's stupid. He's, it's, it, who cares? Listen, fair. There's a bigger issue at hand here. What's the biggest issue? On this day, December 18th.

MKUltra has finally been revealed to be- Doesn't come up. Oh, it doesn't? But that was a big, that, what was it? That was one of the rigors for Top Story. Doesn't talk about canned vegetables either. Really? Nope, spends a lot of the show talking shit on Ben Shapiro.

Okay, of course. And this to me is a- Of course, because it's essentially a gossip show now. This to me is, I don't give a fuck. It's a let them fight. Yeah, right? Yeah, I was like- Oh, no, we're, what are we going to do?

Our next show about the fucking view? Who gives a shit? I don't, yeah, I don't care. If you want to attack Ben Shapiro, is he's a liberal globalist? Go for it. I could have no lessons. This is zero, zero can do that.

But where it's coming from is, Alex has been talking to Michael Savage off air, and Savage has been telling him apparently, although Alex keeps saying, Savage can't talk about this because his contract, but I'm going to talk about it. Sure. So apparently, Michael Savage is losing a couple hours

of his show. It's scaling down to one hour, and Ben Shapiro is getting put in that time slot. So- Some hot goss. Alex. I love me some hot goss, Dan. Alex's angle is that Savage is under attack,

and Ben Shapiro is this sneaky globalist who's coming in. Yep. And this is a scaling back that is only going to be prelude to Michael Savage being taken off the air. Right. That might be- For his Trump-leaning beliefs. I don't think that's the case.

I think he probably has shit ratings. Ben Shapiro is a hot young commodity. Nah. These stations probably see a possibility where Ben Shapiro is constantly- Like his podcast is one of the top 10 podcasts consistently. Really? He has a giant fan base.

That's not good. No, it's not. But you know- Really? If you're these radio stations- Oh man, that sucks. If you're a program director, you see this guy who's young, vibrant, has a huge fan base,

and he's saying dumb conservative shit, you have an old, crotchety man who's cranky as hell and- No, he reaches the 18 to 34s, Dan! He did a fucking show on Fox News for like a week before he got fired. It's because of his Trump-leaning beliefs, Dan. It definitely- Look, are you going to start telling me

that these massive globalist organizations- It's an awful variable. Aren't like- Aren't making decisions based on politics at all, but are instead going for ratings and profits? I am saying that, yeah. Oh, okay. Well, then that makes sense.

00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:35,920 This is your horse. If you want- Yeah, of course. Because Michael Savage is in the twilight of his fucking career. He is an old, old man, and he is also already a multi-multi-millionaire. He is a very rich dude. He is not going to be hurt.

Even if his radio show is taken off, he could do a podcast. Fine. Retain your fan base that way. There's no reason. His fan base knows what a podcast is? That's a fair point. Anyway, it's not a globalist attack.

I think it's probably a realization that you could boost your ratings probably considerably by having Ben Shapiro on. I want both of them kept in fish tanks, like in the shape of water, but I would still- If I was a program director, I'd still be like,

yeah, Ben, you're our guy. Get in there. You get this hour. Yeah. Come on. So anyway, Alex talks about this a lot and how it's an attack on Savage and stuff like that. And then he makes a pronouncement,

which I'm very excited to see how it plays out. Okay. I'm also in the next week going to destroy politically Ben Shapiro. The dirt, all the proof, everything about who he really is, whole nine yards, get ready. His name is just Shaq.

Because the information he's given to others. I'm going to stop right there. I know everyone from Talk Radio Network, everyone except Art Bell, who's dead. Okay. Why did that need to go in there? I don't know. I'm sure there's other people from back then

who are also dead. Who else doesn't he know who's dead? This is a number one definition of a story that I'm like, I'm fucking pumped to see how this plays out. But I also don't care how it lands at all. Nope. I know what's going to happen

is that Alex is going to like step on a rake and it's going to hit him in the face. That's what's going to happen. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's going to silent Bob this. Yeah. He's going to make some. Yeah, for sure.

He's going to make some sort of grand overture against Ben Shapiro. And then it's going to be like, it's going to be so disappointing. But it's not like it's new either. He's been complaining about Ben Shapiro since he was trying to get Kanye West on the show. And Ben Shapiro tweeted, hey, Kanye, don't do this.

He was like, Ben Shapiro is a awful stupid loser. Who is Ben Shapiro? He's not a loser. Who is Ben Shapiro? He's very successful. I mean, he's a he's a wonder keen of sorts. He was a really smart kid, skipped two grades and in his primary education.

Don't care. Went to college, graduated from Harvard Law School. Still don't care. Ended up being a writer. He was like one of the youngest people ever to be published and can't remember the thing. I don't know. He's a fast talking, smart sounding conservative dick.

That's basically who he is. I got you. Okay. You don't talk about him all that much. He's like the Malcolm Gladwell of the right wing. I think that he talks faster. I don't know. Okay.

Maybe we should cover him at some point. I'm open to the possibility of it, but there's no charm to it. I really don't feel. I don't feel any joy when I listen to him. And it's not like Alex fills me with joy, but there's things I laugh at and enjoy. Just like that silly need to be like,

and also I don't know Art Bell because he's dead. 00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:40,320 Like that's almost like an own. Yeah. Yeah. Like I don't know what that means. I don't know why you said it. I don't know what it spoke.

Well, I don't know how I'm supposed to take it. There's some whatever bon vivance in Alex that I don't feel in Ben. And maybe that's just because he is the way to the world on his shoulders. He's still a very young man. And you know, coming from a circumstance where you graduate two years early,

enter the world, there's so much pressure on you. You know, I could, I could see him not being all that happy in life. And it comes out in his fast paced. Push Shapiro or yeah. Yeah. He just, he just talks really fast to him. He just actually says, he says things

that sound really smart. But if you just slow it down a little bit, you're like, what are you fucking talking about? It's not fun. We may go over it in the future. I'm not saying we will, not saying we won't. But anyway, my point is the. Are you saying that maybe Alex would sound

super fast if we just played him at 1.5 times? Maybe I'd like him. Or it sounds super smart. I shouldn't have said super fast. He wouldn't. No, Ben uses bigger words. He went to Harvard Law School. Who gives a fuck?

They teach you big words there. That's probably true. My point is white words. Ben Shapiro's politics suck. And a lot of his ideas are very dumb. But at the same time, he has the good sense to be like, if you go on info wars, you're becoming part of that.

Yeah. And that is not good. Yeah. So that is something that the president would do. At least he knows that on some level. And Alex got really mad when he tweeted a Kanye and told him, don't go on info wars. Right, right, right, right.

So anyway, he's been bitter about him, probably even before that. But that was the last time it really flared up and he started doing a bunch of Ben Shapiro impressions on the show. Gotcha. It was real bad. So we got a right wing shit bag fist fight.

Yeah. Not even fist fight, slap fight. And again, to really stress this, I don't care. I don't care. Yeah, absolutely. I don't care. Fight, bloody each other, live your life.

I kind of do want Kanye to go on info wars though. I think it would be really weird. I think it would be fantastic. I actually was, I mean, I think it would be a terribly embarrassing moment for everyone involved. Everyone involved. It would be spectacular.

It would be Kanye's fans. It would be a disaster. And I'm one of his fans. It would be horrific for me. It would be great. I think as a scientific experiment, I'd love to see how it plays out. I know.

But at the same time, I'm glad it never has happened. Yeah. So. Yet. Yet. He's on a crusade. Alex is against Ben Shapiro. And in order to do that,

in order to facilitate this crusade, he has to call in a guest who knows Ben Shapiro. He's known him for a long time. Mom Shapiro. And is also a complete monster. So Vox Day. I'm so against in fighting, but she doesn't do. And I respect his work nobody for a decade.

Best-selling author. Also a big independent comic book producer. That I'm just like, no, I don't want Vox Day on. He doesn't do interviews. He does our show about how bad Shapiro is. I just, I don't want to be that person. But now I realize. You're doing it right now.

Just like Glenn Beck was in the position of sabotaging us off radio stations and behind the scenes. These are leftist folks. And they're very dangerous. So Vox, thanks for coming on. So his argument is basically that Ben Shapiro is the new Glenn Beck. He's a secret globalist.

More or less. Yeah. So he has Vox Day to come and talk about it. We're not going to listen to any of his clips because he doesn't deserve it. But we've discussed Vox Day a little bit in the past, notably because he calls white terrorist Anders Brevik, St. Brevik, and celebrates his acts of terrorism.

That alone is enough to know where he's coming from. Vox Day worships a serial killer. So now I want to talk about a couple other things. One, it's hilarious that he's here on Alex's show talking about Ben Shapiro as if he's coming from a place of caring about positions and policy. On his blog, Vox Day consistently talks shit about Shapiro. And interestingly, when he does,

he puts his name in brackets, a stylistic flair that white nationalists use when they talk about Jews, but don't want to be too overt about it. Wait, really? Yeah. What? Yeah. You don't know that?

No. I don't traffic in white nationalist circles. They put like two parentheses. Like parentheses, like double parentheses. Oh, OK, so fuck them all. That's a way to indicate I'm talking about this person because they're Jewish. So Ben Shapiro is Jewish.

Yeah. Gotcha. From what I can tell, a lot of his complaints, Vox Day's complaints, that is, respect to Shapiro being Jewish. In a September 9, 2016 post on his blog, Vox literally says, quote, conservatives and independents must now choose

for what and with whom they will stand, a diverse USA, globalism in the left, or a white America, nationalism in the alt-right. There is no other meaningful options. He literally wrote and published that. I'm grateful that he has restraint and he tries to get his point across through subtle means. Sure.

Yeah. So in this interview he does with Alex, he says that he worked with Ben Shapiro at WorldNet Daily, but he fails to mention that he probably got that job because of his dad, Robert Beal, who was the director of WorldNet Daily for a time. Great. I say for a time because in 2008,

Robert Beal was sentenced to 11 years and two months in prison for five counts of tax evasion. It seems that he had a little bit of a feeling that he didn't need to pay taxes, and then he started reading books by Irwin Schiff, father of Alex Jones' frequent guest, Peter Schiff. God damn it! He took Irwin's horrible advice

and it turns out that's a felony. In his trial, it came out that Robert Beal was a member of a sovereign citizen group called the Common Law Court, which is located in Ramsey County, Minnesota. Equally unsurprising to that fact, before this, he was a higher up at WorldNet Daily and pretty clearly hooked up

his aspiring science fiction author son with a gig, which is now all led to Vox Day being an out-and-out white nationalist demagogue. So congratulations, dad. Nepotism turned out very poorly in this instance. It always does. Thank you. Let's just give it up for nepotism.

Also along the way, it's really interesting that Vox Day had a bit of a stretch where he was trying to get into that pickup artist scam money. One of the things that set him apart were all these dudes, dude. All these dudes were involved in Gamergate and pickup artist stuff. Mark Dice wrote a book about pickup artistry.

Mike Cernovich was a pickup artist guru. Dave Seaman was involved in all this stuff. Cernovich was in Gamergate. All of it is the funnel that leads to all this shit. It's just fucking white dudes feeling entitled to everything. Exactly, because that's what's behind all this. Fuck! Anyway, what set Vox Day apart from many of the dudes

who advised guys to do things like subtly disrespect women so they think you're a loof? That Vox Day was an extreme monster. From a September 20th... Kill them! Close. And then have sex with their corpses. Very close.

Can't say no after they're dead. Very close. Oh, God. Again, this is like the... It could be marriage. It could be adoption. I don't like anything like this. From a September 28th, 2011 post on his blog,

quote, I don't believe I could recommend this as a strategy for most men, but it's surely educational to learn that raping and killing a woman is demonstrably more attractive to women than behaving like a gentleman. And women, before all this inevitable snowflaking commences, please note that there's absolutely nothing to argue about here. It's an established empirical fact.

He says that it's an empirical fact, but the only citation he provides to back this up at all is a link to another pickup artist blog called Alpha Game Plan, which is just a write-up of a post in the Daily Mail, about how a Japanese murderer had a fan group. This doesn't make anything... Oh, yeah, that guy.

This doesn't make anything an established empirical fact. This is just an anecdotal story with a ton of variables involved that he doesn't take into account. The fact that murderers have fan groups doesn't prove anything to the point of that being a murderer is more attractive to women than being polite and decent. It's bullshit. It's total nonsense.

Ted Bundy has a fan base, but it is not more attractive than... Right. And also, this doesn't take into account who are these people who gravitate towards fan groups of murderers. Hey. No, I'm saying that there's a variable you're probably not getting into consideration. I know. I know. It's insane.

That's insane. Right. I think what his variable is, the largest population of women, right? Those are the ones who are attracted to serial killers, rapists, and murderers, right? All of them, yeah. Yeah, the larger population, a plurality.

All of them. At least a plurality. All of them. Okay. Especially more than holding the door open that proves you're a fucking beta. They don't want you or a gamma. You should slam her head in that door

until she's dead. Also, it's really funny. He has this like, you know, all of them talk about like alphas and stuff like alphas and betas. They always talk about it. He expands it to like gammas and stuff like that because he knows a couple more Greek letters. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Good work, Ted.

But the really funny thing about all that is that studies have been done in like wolf communities because that's what they're all harkening to is this like idea of like wolves. Of course. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That hierarchical structure doesn't exist in nature. It only exists in like wolves that are kept in like enclosures. Yeah.

It only exists in like captive populations. So their whole thing isn't a natural thing. Their whole argument that they're like, this is how people work. Nah, it's how it would work in prison probably. Yeah. But it's not how it works in the broader world. Because it doesn't make sense as an evolutionary strategy

to be attracted to a rapist and murderer. Well, that part, again, is just based on an anecdotal story. Right. It has nothing to do with empirical fact. Of course not. What's interesting about that is like, for a long time, Vox Day has been masquerading as someone who is in any way serious.

And he constantly talks about like how he's in Mensa and you respect science and reason. But all he's ever done is use decent grammar to repackage overtly white supremacist and dangerously misogynistic narratives. All in all, my point is, this dude's a piece of shit. And he's exactly who you would expect Alex to still be hanging out with.

At this point in his fucking career. It's crazy. Vox Day is the worst. Like I've taken a couple of these things but if you go read his blog, you'll find fucking atrociously worded statements that are like, oh, I can't believe someone would believe that. It's a mess.

That's not okay. Yes. I can't remember exactly what the quote was. That's not okay. Yes. Can we all agree that's not okay? He has some weird argument that he was trying to make about the idea of like white supremacy isn't true.

It's not that whites are not better than any other race. But. Stop right there. I am out. White people are the only people who are willing to stand up for the preservation of western society. Right, right, right. There go, no matter what race you are,

you should be in favor of white nationalism. Okay. Let's be at a. Cool. Let's be at a party. Cool, cool, cool. Let's be at a party. You be Vox Day and I'll be me.

I'm already, no, no. Okay. I want to be Vox Day. Hey, how you doing? You should already be gone. Exactly. Yeah. No reason to role play that.

So he talks to Vox Day forever on that episode and that leads brings us to the end of the 18th. And we jump in on the 19th and I was thinking, maybe we're going to get some Flynn in here. No real Flynn to speak of before. Alex addressed the Roger Stone thing, I guess, but it was just a dismissal. Yeah, it wasn't.

We didn't do anything wrong. They said everything. We were doing everything right. And by. Right. So we get into the 19th and I expected maybe something, but it turns out it was worse than I possibly could have imagined. Shock info wars.com.

But on Salazar, 11 year old performs in drag on stage at New York City Gay Club at night, scantily clad, 10 year old child, 10 year old boy, shaking his butt and scantily clad and getting money. But it gets even worse. There's a video he posted about how he's part of the LGBTQ. Nice. I predicted they'd officially start calling it the LGBTQ,

but they've added LGBTQ queer. So they added pedophile and queer to the end of it. Point of order. The queue was already there. I think there were two queues for queer and questioning. Alex would know that if he cared at all, but he doesn't. He actually, this kid did write a great song called Girl Scout Cookies.

No, no, that was Alex's friend, Ted Nugent. Oh, no. Okay. And you've got these people at public events saying it's city councils. We are coming to groom your children. Your children are ours. Give them to us.

It's disgusting. You won't hand them over. And this young boy with his mother, we're going to play a video coming up, says talks about snorting ketamine, which is a drug that people take to go into trance like states where they have orgies. Cool.

We'll get into that video here in a little bit, but right off the bat. Here's my biggest quibble with this kid. He's too fucking cool, dad. Yeah. So right off the bat, I need to make one thing abundantly clear about my position. Regardless of what angle you have on this story,

no matter where you fall on it, even if you're on Alex's side of this, the way info wars covered this is indefensible. Here's what I mean by this. In their post on their website, the sub headline about this story is quote, adult patrons throw money at male child dressed like a slut. That headline is so-

Wow, that's an offensive, what? It's flagrantly inappropriate. That is unbelievably like dressed like a slut. You're the one sexualizing. Yeah. What are you doing? Crazy. That's fucked up.

So even though the kid in question is inspiring artist and has a stage name and a website, I find it particularly distasteful that Alex posted a picture of him and their real name on the website in his article. If their angle is that this is a child victim, they shouldn't want to bring possible attention or attacks their way.

The only way this makes sense is to- The only way I can make any sense of this is that they're trying to make this 11-year-old a target, which is exactly what they want to do. Because this drag artist known as Desmond is Amazing is a fairly popular LGBT rights activist with over 108,000 followers on Instagram even though they're only 11 years old.

Alex does want to make them a target. Yeah, of course. He doesn't give a shit about the idea. He's going to try and play up the idea that I care about the victimization here. Sure. But if he did, he would have dealt with this differently. He wouldn't have allowed a headline dressed like a slut.

He wouldn't have pasted a picture of this Desmond on his website. He wouldn't have done that. This isn't attack on this kid, not on the idea that globalists- How old is this kid again? He's 11. Okay, so an adult man is now stalking an 11-year-old.

It's like Owen Benjamin writing songs about David Hogg's pubes and stuff like that. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Fuck you. Desmond wasn't dressed like a slut. He was doing a routine based on a Gwen Stefani song, so he used a Gwen Stefani costume.

Essentially, you know, like those baggy pants with the chain wallet and the t-shirt. The white undershirt. Oh, so this is like- It's not dressed like a slut at all. This is like a theater kid at your high school talent show doing a fucking Gwen Stefani song. More or less.

In order to prop up his argument, attacking a child whose life he disagrees with, in his article, Alex didn't write the article, but he's responsible for everything that's posted. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Adon Salazar's article. They almost exclusively used just quotes from random anonymous comments on a subreddit

called r-trashy. This is a pathetic level of journalistic laziness. All these people saying, oh, this is horrible on a subreddit called trashy. This is nonsense. That doesn't mean anything. These are anonymous bullshit comments. All of the other arguments in this article,

against it, that are cited in the article, from places like Louder with Crowder, revolve around the idea that Desmond's performance was sexual. When there's no indication that's the case at all. It's Alex and Louder with Crowder that's projecting sex onto what is ostensibly a youth doing a lip-sync performance or karaoke in the case of...

The one I watched was definitely a lip-sync, but I extend the possibility that Desmond may sing at times. But look, I watched the entire thing because I was like, all right, I don't try and understand this. It's not sexual at all. Here's what I'm hearing out of all of this stuff, is that Alex's real issue, and so many of these guys' real issues,

has nothing to do with sexualizing kids, and more with kids like this guy confusing them. For them, they're looking at the reason that he's writing that article with a subline, dressed like a slut, is his confusion. His confusion is like, hey, why are you making me want to fuck you? I don't understand what's going on here. Maybe.

And that's fucked up. Maybe. This whole thing is fucked up. Maybe that might be too much to put on Alex or whatever. No, I'm putting it all on him. It's, I mean, it's possible. Who knows? I think more the confusion comes from him seeing this

as an attack on masculinity and stuff like that. I think he has a hundred different picadillos wrapped up here. It's fucked up. So anyway... You need to fucking get alone. Alex gets really ambitious with this narrative. I'm gonna hear the story here up front, though. Dude, we leave your kid alone.

We've been talking about... Fuck you. And illustrates that we all have a choice to make which side run. Because there's no doubt about the forces that we're facing. There's no doubt about their in-game. There's no doubt about who they are. Well, their ideology is... And we saw that there is doubt about the in-game.

And the very same evil has rear its head in every culture, in every area of recorded civilization for over 6,000 years. We're gonna be plunging into that here in just a moment. He's a fucking idiot. He's talking about like... He's gonna try and bring in like the idea of like South American, Mesoamerican child sacrifice and stuff like that. He has no argument here.

This is a bunch of nonsense. Hold on. Hold on. Just so fucking furious. Headlines on infowars.com. It links through to mainstream news praising it. Shock, 11-year-old performs in drag on stage at NYC Gay Club. So, this is the other piece of it.

The Desmond was performing at this gay club called Three Dollar Bill. You know, Queer as a Three Dollar Bill. Right. Well, we can't have children going to gay clubs because that'll turn them gay. That's how that works. Right. Science. No, totally.

Fix it. Totally. There are pieces of this that are a bunch of nonsense to attack, per se. One of the things is that it's not just a bar. It's also a performance space. They... If you go to their website, they have bands there regularly. They recently had a comedy festival,

Queer New York comedy festival there. Nice. And then everyone's making a big deal out of the idea that this is a kid in a bar. Fine. But also Desmond was there as a performer. Back when I used to do stand-up, there was this 12-year-old kid that would come do stand-up sometimes

who was allowed into bars because he was there to perform and he was there accompanied by his father. He'd do jokes about how his mom was a slut and stuff. You wouldn't expect a child to say it was raunchy. It was kind of lame, you know? I thought it was very stupid. But if you really look at it, his act was more intrinsically sexual than Desmond's.

Yeah. So Alex doesn't give a shit about that. He doesn't care about the idea that it opened mics. Yeah, let's just say, I don't know any comedian who doesn't know of at least like... We've all been to at least 10 shows where it's like, really they're going to do a 12-year-old and then the 12-year-old does well

and you're like, Motherfuckers. I am worried. Fuck you. Your dad wrote that. Fuck these two. Yeah, exactly. No, there's totally a dad writing jokes behind that fucking kid. And also there's a jealousy of all the other performers like,

fuck you. You didn't even earn those. Yeah, but the bigger point is like... Oh, it's easier because you're 12. The bigger point is Alex is trying to do two things here. He's trying to make it like he was in a bar and that's wrong. Like, it's not really wrong. If they're serving in booze, then yeah, that's wrong.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a fucked up thing. Because we have laws. But that's crazy. And then the other thing is, Alex is unwilling to separate the idea of a gay bar being a sexual place akin to a strip club. And he makes this point repeatedly

and it's really fucking stupid. If there's been a girl in any topless bar, the parents would be arrested instantly. But because it's... Yeah. But we did our little boys. No. And get rid of them and get them all the vaccines.

There are eight times we're likely to have autism. This is the new way we destroy our young men. See, I think it's more about the masculinity than it is about anything else. I think that is where his ire is getting up the most. Because it feeds into so many of the narratives that he's talked about forever. Is this idea of an attack on masculinity?

It's what most of his product line is based around. That fear of losing your vitality and shit like that. So I... I mean, it's all dishonest. And yes, absolutely. If you brought an 11-year-old girl to a strip club and they were doing a strip tease or something like that. If they were stripping.

That would be flagrantly illegal. If they were not stripping. Yeah. If they were just up there to be ogled at by creepy dudes. Yeah. That's creepy. Yes. And would be fucked up against the law.

Yeah, there we have... It's a problem that we've already got laws for. Yeah. Yeah. But he's trying to make a false equivalence there with this idea of going to this gay bar is the same as going to a strip club. Because he believes that gay bars are for fucking.

Intrinsically... Gay bars are for fucking. Just sex. No, it's not that this marginalized group of people has gone to regular bars for so fucking long and have been discriminated against, have been assaulted, have been fucked with, and with unceasing regularity.

So much so that they created their own space. And finally they have their own fucking space. And even though they have their own fucking space where they feel safe and comfortable, you have to somehow try and marginalize them still further by making it a pure sex thing. It can't just be like... Because that's what it is to him.

Yeah, of course. Yeah. Like if you... Don't you... Like some... Like for his bullshit, like he probably goes to some fuck barbershop where it's like,

it's all these dudes who do all this shit. Fuck you. You're all fucking each other. I don't give a shit. Or he goes shooting. Fuck off. Yeah, you go shooting. Do you know what shooting ranges are for?

Dudes fucking themselves. Alex Jones fucks a bunch of dudes with guns. Done. Solved it. Affixed it. Right. I mean, you're using... Fuck off.

You're using... It makes no sense. No, it's a... You're using a reducto at absurdium argument. Taking another circumstance and using his same line of thinking to point out the absurdity of it. And I agree. It's nonsense.

But his comes from a deep place of bigotry. And he feels it's justified. Because this kid, Desmond, has revealed in a video that's been posted that pedophiles are part of the LGBT. He's on video with his reported mother on YouTube. His reported mother? Talking about LGBTQ.

You're really doing a great job. As I predicted, they would add a P to the end of LGBT. Even if they did, he couldn't do it by himself. And they added a Q. They added a Q. So it's on. And they're coming for your kids in the schools.

And it's all part of a larger plan. So we'll listen to the actual video here in a little bit. Suffice it to say, Alex is fucking wrong about everything. But in a way that is much more fucked up than even you can imagine at this point. But Alex thinks he's vindicated. Alex thinks that this kid is announcing in this video that he has

as a part of it, man. I've been saying that all along. I've been demonizing the LGBT community by saying that P is at the end of it. And now I'm right. Isn't that amazing? He's not. It's not amazing.

He's wrong. And he's also fucking desperate on the 19th. We are fabulously successful. We are under total attack. And it is a symbol of our victory against the enemy. We're so successful. I'm going to need you to give me as much of your fucking money as you can right now.

Please, please worldview. We're so successful. Please give me your better. I need it. And I'm extremely honored. I need your money. And I don't want to be any other place. But with you and with this crew out there,

give me your money. And I mean that. Gonna need your money. So something I never do here in the first main segment is plug. I want to stay on this horse as long as I can. Do you mean you want to be in an Alamo-esque type situation? Long after it's dead. And if we have more ammo, we can stay here for a long time.

And hopefully. So he wants to be on that horse and he wants to stay around. I mean, that's a desperate, pathetic man. That's desperate. I mean, he plugs in the first segment a lot of the time. I was going to say that does not. That's bullshit. But him drawing focus to it indicates that like,

I need you to think this means something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Also, he's like Christmas sales are still going. And if you get before midnight tonight, if you just fucking order a ton of stuff, it'll come before Christmas. Your house needs a Christmas gift. Everybody gets gifts for the family.

01:21:04,560 --> 01:21:08,560 We're on our 339th day of our Christmas sale. You need Vox Day's book as a stocking stuff or for your children. Don't get that book. Don't get that book for your children. So Alex says, if you give me more money and all that, then we can stay on this horse. But he also starts to get really introspective

about the idea of like, you know what? If my time is up, then, you know, if we get destroyed, we get destroyed. He says something very interesting. Again, if we're destroyed, again, which I hope doesn't happen, that's, that's, that's okay. We're looking at the barrel of that happening. We had to be the first to hit the barbed wire

in this modern wave. Others came before us and paid a lot more like Larry McDonald and John Burge and so many others. So my job is easy at this point. So the two people that he listed as martyrs, who he's comparing himself to are John Burge, who's the soldier who Robert Welsh, the founder of the John Burge Society, named his group after

and the guy who knew John Burge said he would not be cool with that. So he is someone who's being used as a propaganda tool as the supposed first victim of the Cold War and stuff like that in order to further and be like a symbolic martyr for these anti-communist propagandists. Sure, sure, sure, sure. Now Larry McDonald, you probably don't know who that dude is. No idea.

You remember how back when the president of the John Burge Society was on Alex's show and I told you about how the candy man Robert Welsh was. This dude's a white nationalist terrorist, isn't he? You know, I told you how the candy man Robert Welsh was the first president of the John Burge Society. Then he was replaced, but then he had to come back as president because the new president was in a plane that was shot down by the Soviets. That was McDonald.

That was Larry McDonald. Gotcha. And before you start thinking him being shot down by the Soviets as some sort of proof of a communist plot, he was on a plane that deviated from their flight path and went into prohibited Soviet airspace. I'm definitely not defending shooting the plane down. I think it's the wrong way to handle things,

but it wouldn't have happened. It would not have been shot down if the pilot hadn't have taken them into prohibited Soviet airspace. Now, some fun facts about Larry McDonald. He was a member of the House representing Georgia from 1975 to 1983. All right, well, then already discounted. The American Journal of Political Sciences ranked him as the second to most conservative member of both houses of Congress between 1937 and 2002.

Who's number one you ask? You get it. No! Ron Paul. God damn it. While he was in office, he was a member of the McCarthy Foundation, an expression of his admiration for Joseph McCarthy. He co-sponsored a bill advocating that homosexuals never be given equal rights,

which he phrased as, quote, special consideration. He fought against the establishment of the Martin Luther King Day and he wanted to bring back the gold standard. As could be expected, seeing as he was a member of the Austrian School and the Mies Institute, he introduced bills to get the U.S. out of the U.N. and to abolish the Federal Elections Commission. If you're really, really stupid, you shouldn't be allowed to call yourself an institute. Like, there should be a rule against that.

If you're so stupidly fucking wrong, you just have to call yourself, like, the folks, the Mies folks. Let's work on that for later. All right. That's low on our list of priorities. I get it. I support the initiative. I get it.

But not saying it's going to be the next bill that I introduce. So Alex is imagining himself in his potential destruction as being similar to the propaganda martyr of the John Burt society and the second president of the John Burt society who was in a plane that got shot down. Yeah. Alex loves the John Burt society, though he doesn't talk about it all that much.

Clearly. The fact that I haven't heard him bring up Larry McDonald, but it came out real fucking smooth when he was looking for martyrs. Yep. John Burt and Larry McDonald are the two names that come out of his mouth. It's very clear. Very clear. Yeah.

So anyway, Alex is really stupid. I should also, he's basically an institute at this point, how stupid he is. I hate you. He, he, he goes down. That was very funny. He goes down this line about, like earlier, he introduced the idea that whenever they want the kids, that's the sign that the civilization is about to be destroyed. And he starts this treatise, I would say, just on the dumbest foot ever.

Well, what could possibly be more indicative of wanting to sacrifice a child than fucking going after a child and making sure that all of your ceaseless mountain of fucking trolls slam down upon them? There's an interesting irony there that we'll get into in a little bit. But first, Alex has got to get his treatise going. So let's, let's let him, and then we will mock accordingly. If you've ever studied basic archaeology, basic anthropology, you have, you will notice that civilizations usually last about 200 to 300 years.

That is, what? What? The Ottoman Empire spans 623 years from 1299 to 1922. The Khmer Empire in Cambodia lasted 630 years from 802 to 1432. The Ethiopian Empire lasted from 1270 to 1935 and only fell because it was invaded by Italian fascists. The Kush Empire in modern Sudan went from 1070 BCE to 350 AD. Alex isn't saying anything here. Civilizations do not tend to last 200 to 300 years.

This is complete bullshit. And he's just using this nonsensical statistic he's pulling out of thin air in order to present the idea that we're in the end times. Because we are between 200 and 300 years. We haven't even defined civilization. No, that's a good point. We haven't even defined fucking civilizations. Civilizations, who gives a fuck of empires last 400 years?

Look, those continue, those continue with civilization. Yeah, no, absolutely. That's, I'm not, I'm not like refuting that argument. I'm, I'm just saying that even, even then, you know, like, oh, let's go with the Chinese civilization. Are we going to call the Qing dynasty a completely different civilization? That's why I didn't touch up that because it seems to much like a weird. It's a civilization.

But even so, some of those dynasties lasted longer than 300 years. Hell yeah. And even then the, but the people were still the fucking people, you know. The problem is that he hasn't studied basic archaeology or anthropology. I know. So that's the problem. That's so frustrating. He knows nothing.

If you've ever studied basic archaeology or anthropology, please call me because I haven't, and I'm going to say dumb shit. And I'm not going to use any real specifics. Sony launches back in and I've listened to this. I think I know what he's saying, but it's so weird that I, I, I find it hard to believe that, that he's making this argument. You will notice that civilizations usually last about 200 to 300 years and they'll rise out of agrarian systems and they'll create a priest class, the manufacturing class, and

these other two steps absorbed or suddenly the temples are built, usually pyramids. Wait, what was the priest class doing before the temple? The priest class begins demanding to have sex with little boys and girls in public. Always done that like from the top of the world. It happened in ancient Europe. It happened in ancient Latin America, which was Mesoamerica. It happened in ancient China. That's why China funds movements and systems in America for the sexualization of children

and things like that. They, they outlaw it in China. They kill you if you do it. And so the religion of the left in this country and the people that have taken over the Vatican and all of it is pedophilia and it is the energetic vampirism of children. Little balls of energy sucking energy out of them. It's a fact. They'll tell us what they're doing.

No, no, it's, no, I don't think they will. No, I don't, I don't, Ted Nugent will tell you that's what he's doing. So it's so strange to me that the argument that I, and tell me if I'm wrong here. I really want to understand the argument because I didn't catch. Tell me if I'm wrong, but what I take from this and some surrounding context, but there isn't a whole lot. Right. I believe that the argument that he's making is that the Chinese, the chikoms as it were,

yes, are promoting pedophilic movements like the LGBT movement and what have you here in America because they know, they know that throughout history, because they've studied basic archeology and anthropology. Absolutely. They know how they invented most of it. They know that we're two to 300 years in and it's about time for the priest class to start demanding to fuck children in public to precipitate the destruction of America. Right.

I really think that's the argument that he's making. I'm pretty sure that's the argument that he's making and that's why I'm so confused by it. That's crazy. Because he just, he just said that because the Chinese did it, now some 2000 years later in his own argument, they're like, hold on, I know what we'll do. We'll fund a priest class because I remember when that happened to us. I guess. So then that'll happen to them.

I guess. And then we'll swoop in. It's absurd. So that's why we outlawed it. So our civilization wouldn't collapse and we kill priest class people because as everybody knows that's the only way that a civilization will fall. This is crazy and it's an articulation of something that I think Alex has probably thought for a long time.

I think we've seen clues that he kind of thinks that, but I never would have guessed that that's what he was getting at. That's a banana. I think that he thinks that he thinks that the Chinese are paying people to fuck kids in public. Well, no, they're paying. I guess LGBT folks to advocate for their own rights, which Alex sees as a normalization of pedophilia right because they think that that will lead to the destruction of America. It's I wish the Chinese were funding LGBTQ movements to fight for their own rights.

That'd be fantastic. It's I would like if they help there. There are. I don't know. There are factual problems with this. Oh, I name one. They're inferential problems. I can't see any.

It's a mess. I think it got it. That's the kind of thing where I would tell Alex, just go home. If he's at the bar and he's spouting that, like, yeah, get out of here. You gotta go, man. What are you, Vox Day? Get the fuck out of here. You've had too big of a night.

You fucking idiot. So at this point, he said his like, this is his intellectualizing. Yes, that is his intellectualizing. Well, he brings in basic archaeology. Sure. Sure. He said the words air go. He knows.

Right, right, right. Because he went to college. So he's now appealed to your intelligent mind by saying that the Chinese are funding edophilia. So now he gets back to attacking a child. And the way he does this is next level bad. But it's also fun because I know from everything I've seen about this kid. Desmond is awesome that he doesn't give a shit.

You wouldn't care at all about Alex's petty, petty bullshit. So I take some solace in that. But at the same time, this is really bad. This first clip isn't really bad, but it gets worse. What you're about to see me cover is the story of this is a crime. Taking a minor to a bar where there is adult entertainment that takes place is strictly forbidden and zoned in New York is illegal. How many of you going to pick up food when you're a kid for your parents?

If you were like 10 or 11, they go, hey, run it and get the food. And the place has a bar and they go, sorry, you pick up food at the bar. You got to send your parents in. You can't approach the bar. This is a personal story. But as long as your LGBT... This is a personal story. You're talking about you.

Yeah, probably he had that happen. So look, according to New York law, there's no law that says the people under 21 can't enter a bar. The bar itself imposes that rule in order to not have any appearance of serving booze to minors, which is against the law. That's why bars can have 18 plus nights for concerts and shit like that. There is no law that says you can't come in. Generally speaking, it goes state by state. But if the bar serves food, they can have any age people in there.

They just can't serve people under 21 alcohol. Alex is using a very specific language here to be a shithead. He says that it's at places where there's adult entertainment going on, which he specifically says because you think adult entertainment means adult entertainment. We've already kind of gone over this point here. He's trying to pretend that this is a strip club or something like that. It's not. It's just a gay space that he deems intrinsically sexual.

And that is fucked up. It is fucked up. He just sexualizes everything he deems deviant. And it's a really... It's a really... All the fucking Applebee's has a bar. Go fuck yourself. It's a really lame way to do this.

Anyway, in this next clip, he insults Desmond personally. Just type that name in. It's all over the news. Good morning, America. How awesome it is. It's an emaciated child. Looks completely whacked out of their brain. Looks like a crackhead.

We're going to play some of the video. Viewers will see this in a moment. Alex, you're acting like a disgraceful pile of shit here. The idea that you would say this is an emaciated kid who looks like a crackhead. Why the fuck would you do that? What angle does that serve for what he wants to achieve if what he wants to achieve is anything other than attacking this kid? That's the only thing that makes sense out of this rhetoric.

Yep. Now, I told you we'd get to the P thing. And this is a mic down clip. This is where Alex actually plays the video that he's been talking about. Where he has said that Desmond comes out and says that it's the LGBT... And they added a cue. Yeah. They added the P and the cue.

Yeah. Fuck off with that, Alex. Great. Good work. Late to the party as usual. Alex, congratulations. Now there's an interesting dynamic going on in this video and you'll pick up on it immediately.

I guarantee that. Everyone listening will pick up on it immediately. Alex is pretending that the dynamic that is at play is not at play in order for him to demonize people. Anyway, what Alex does here is completely disgraceful and I'm certain because our listeners are not shitheads and you aren't a shithead, you'll see through this immediately.

Here is this poor, in my view, abused boy talking about ketamine or the woman's talking about ketamine. Not sure if it's the mother or not. Here it is. Anyone can do drag. Everyone can do drag. Everyone can do drag. Your mom can do drag.

One, four, eight, eight. Oh, sorry. It was at the off track, okay? It was only $400 on. There are no genders. You can be male, female, any, or none. Only U.S. people can have a bunch of made-up genders. That's not true at all.

No, no, no. Oh my God. Hitler was right. What? See? Bellinoche, putting the P in LGBT P plus. You should eat some food, little nibba. But I'm getting hate comments.

Is this mean I'm famous now? Is this what he wants? Lots of respect for you guys. Thank you. Press G to gas. G, G, G, G. One, two, three, four, G. What has this world come to?

It's come to a world where drag kids actually exist. And people do ketamine on a couch. How old is your BF? Hello. Hitler was right. Helicopter rides. Yay. So the woman.

And in some of the live streams I said it was the mom. But then on TV it looks like the mom looks different. So it may not be the mom. We don't even know. It's just, it's just, this child was thrown into this, this poor little dear child. Poor dear child. And it's all in your face and it's so insane and it's so abusive.

This, this is the mom here. So we just can't tell. There's so much makeup on the other woman. And the mother's so proud of how great this is. And how the child just came up with this. But that's not what's happening. This is all being indoctrinated in the schools. Because Alex fucking knows better.

Like these interviews with them, they've lived their lives. You know, like the mom and Desmond both have lived their lives. And in interviews they, it doesn't feel the same way a lot of those creepy stage moms do. Maybe there's a tiny element of it to that. I admit that there's a possibility that there's some of that there. But in the interviews I saw with them, it was very clear that Desmond was expressing, I am so grateful that I have a mother who accepts this thing that's been a part of

me as long as I've remembered it. And the mom is back. That's what my kid wants to do. I love my kid. They would know their lives. But Alex knows better. Hold on. Let's finish this clip and then we'll get back to what was going on in that video.

And the question is how much more of this as a society and a culture, because this is this recruiting and indoctrination is all going on in the schools. And then talking about ketamine and the child, here's about it. Ketamine, you generally snort and the child then is involved in drug culture signaling about a horrible drug involved in group sex. And talking about LGBTP2, only in fallen America and the West, ladies and gentlemen. So I would like you to say what was going on in there, that video. I watched it.

You only heard the audio, but I'm certain you know what was going on. I, I think we, a lot of the times we clown, but I really fucking hate Alex. I think it's important to really make that. Totally. This is, this is one of the more disgraceful things I've ever seen. Pathetic. It's very clear that what's going on here is they're doing a live stream and they're responding to things that people are saying to them.

To the people that Alex himself is inspiring. Clearly. To them, they're reading his own fucking words back at him ironically. That's pathetic. Alex, you're fucking pathetic. The idea that someone who was watching the live stream wrote in putting the P and LGBTP is kind of indicative of like, I don't know if other right wing people are using that acronym, but I know that Alex has for a bit.

Yep. There's a reasonable assumption to be made that the person was doing that because they were inspired by Alex. So what it is is secondhand Alex abuse being funneled towards this 11 year old, the 11 year old reading it and saying, I don't know what that means or the other person said, I don't know what that means. And then Alex then using, they said, LGBTP, I've been right all along. It's a fucking nonsense.

And then you heard in there very clearly 1488. Someone was saying Hitler was right comes up a number of times. Yep. And then Desmond says, helicopter rides. Yay. That response came because Desmond thought it was in reference to taking a ride in a helicopter. Not a reference to how Pinochet used to take his political rivals and helicopters

and throw them out to murder them. In recent months, the theme of offering liberals free helicopter rides has become a fun sneaky way for Trump supporters to threaten to kill their political rivals without the risk of actually saying it. In this video that Alex has posted and is making propaganda out of, there's clear evidence of rampant Nazi abuse being thrown at this child, as well as overt death threats. Weirdly, Alex doesn't seem to have any problem with that. And the article that he wrote about this doesn't even bring it up.

It has that video embedded in it. They don't even talk about the idea of this Nazi abuse being hurled at an 11 year old. It's because Alex likes that sort of thing. The real abuse that Desmond will face in life is going to come from people like Alex, not from people who allow him to pursue whatever version of personal truth he sees fit. The fact that Alex wants the targeting of Desmond to continue couldn't be clearer than in the last line of that article written by Adam Salazar. Quote, this will likely not be the last we hear of Desmond,

as the left continues to push its demoralizing pedophilic agenda. So, I mean, what we have here is just a video where people were being really dicks. And it's very heavily edited. So who knows what else was going on in that live stream. But it's an edit of an 11 year old not understanding that Nazis are saying horrible things to them. And then just reading off the screen. Pretty good reading skills, I'll say for, I don't know. For a cold read, that's not good.

I don't know how good a cold reading I was at 11. That's not bad. I want to say this kid is a fucking dynamite performer. I would say that let's take a listen to Alex's cold reading skills in the past. Not great. How are we doing? Not as good as that. How good of a reader is Alex?

Not as good as this 11 year old. No, he's not. So we see this here. This is Alex's sort of pièce de résistance in terms of this narrative. And you see where it's coming from and it's bullshit. All he's doing is trying to create a target out of a child because it works best for his narratives. And all of the stuff he's saying are lies. Desmond didn't say that there's a P and LGBT.

He was confused. Reading. And as I understand it, he is the preferred pronoun. He's gender fluid. But all the articles that I read seem that in that line, I don't know if I'm using the wrong pronoun. I apologize. But that seems to be the way it shakes out. But all this is just the worst.

He's the worst. So at this point, they go to break and they come back. Alex isn't in studio anymore. Good. We got good. He should fucking go to bed. We got a fill in. And I hope he dies.

We got a fill in Christ of somebody else doing a worse job of covering the same topics. It would be considered inappropriate. You suck. At the most child abuse. But if it's surrounding the topic or the art, they say, of drag culture or transsexualism, then it's okay. You're not allowed to talk about it. Shocking.

In fact, you know what? Can you just pull that? Because I got a, I mean, so, but here's the deal. If you don't like to, you know, abuse your kids psychologically and you like to take care of your kids' health, we've got great, great supplements right now. Motherfucker, you motherfucker, you fucking die, I suppose. Oh my God. Walk into a fucking bus.

Isn't that amazing that like, holy shit, that, uh, and even at the end there, you're probably yelling over it, but he's like, how do you transition out of that? That's how you do it. As someone who prides themselves on their transitions. Owen, not, not a great job. Don't pat yourself on the back for that. That was not smooth. You took a very long pause and then just said, if you don't want to abuse your

children by our supplements, which also have light in them. God damn it. You are fucking your child abusers. You're abusing children. No. You're abusing him. Well, we have to make a fine distinction on this. I think it is important.

What they are doing is not necessary. It's, it's, it's abusive in nature to some extent, but what they're doing precipitates the abuse of children. If you don't know by now that that's what, if you don't know, if you don't know, then I get your point. If you don't know that what you're doing is going to directly lead to the fucking abuse of a child, then I get that you might just be facilitating it. They know, they know goddamn well that what they are saying is leading to a child being

abused. That is, that is like saying that a general doesn't kill anybody because he, all he does is put troops where they need to go. Dan, the general doesn't kill anybody. I understand that. But at the same time, the general does direct the flow of where these troops are going and they're just adjusting where they go. I know it's a fine distinction.

It's just the, it's just the same. I don't buy it at all. I don't, I know, I don't buy that distinction whatsoever. They are purposefully, deliberately abusing children. That should be a literal crime. What they just did should be a literal crime. I am frustrated that it's not. I'm frustrated too, but I also don't think that creates a better world.

I think that you would end up with some real fucked up implications for free speech. Okay. So here's our, here's our law. You don't get to direct your millions of followers to scream at a child. Well, they could hide behind whatever they've done as not doing that because they haven't told anybody to attack this, this kid and they have it. They've, Alex has gone out of his way to facetiously care about the quote unquote victim. All right.

You know, so, I mean, like you can hide behind any kind of couched language that you want and still do the exact same. You would have the same effect getting around whatever you're saying. You would end up in a really nebulous place where you would end up, you'd end up having to like get so granular with it that it's not worth it. That's where we go back into our ongoing and never ending argument about how you discern bad faith actors in a legal sense, which I get, I get, no, no, no, I get, I get that. All, I'm not, I'm not saying that I'm going to write the law.

I'm not saying that I have some sort of ability to police this in a way that makes sense or that it is even possible. But from a moral standpoint, those guys are abusing children. Oh, sure. And I think that probably purposefully Desmond and his parents probably have some decent argument in terms of like some sort of libel action. Like the idea that Alex is coming on air and saying that this 11 year old is saying that pedophiles are a part of the LGBT community and stuff like that.

I think that there is probably some sort of grievous damage that could be argued from that. I think there's a decent argument there, but in terms of outlawing stuff, I think you're just not you, but I think one would be chasing their own tail. I think that's my point. I totally get it. I totally get it. Maybe some sort of civil action could be appropriate, but the only people who have the right to bring that is the people who are aggrieved.

God, I want him to lie about us so bad. He's, he knows better than that. I want him to lie about us so bad. I want to have standing to sue you for every goddamn penny you have, Alex. He knows better. Come on. So anyway. Step at me.

I'm an adult. Owen's hosting and it's confusing as to like why, why did Alex disappear? Turns out he said why at the beginning of the show and I just haven't told you. Owen's Troyer's coming in. I literally have Hillary Clinton's law firm here today deposing me. So I'll be off and on the show throughout the transmission today. Thank you. It's, it's definitely heating up around here.

Oh, it is heating up. Those aren't Hillary Clinton's lawyers. Dan, that was the best hammer you've ever dropped. He's been, that was my favorite hammer drop you've ever had, Dan. I'm proud of you. He's getting sued. Owen's Troyer left the studio in order to have Alex go give a deposition. So Alex is gone and Troyer hosts.

It's boring as fuck. I can't even explain how painful it is to listen to him. I just listened to him and yes, you can. And it's just listening to that. He interviews Leo Zagami, who I haven't seen in a while. Oh, that's nice. I had fucking weirdo. How's Zagami doing?

Illuminati insider and Vatican expert, Leo Zagami. The priest said they're still killing people. Past project Camelot guest, Leo Zagami. He's in, he actually, I didn't pull a clip of this because who gives a shit, but he's, he's, he's spending a weird narrative about the idea that Bolsonaro being in office in Brazil is great and has to do with like, really don't like the people love murder. It's wild that Leo Zagami is also on that too.

I don't like it. Weird. See the Vatican is killing and raping everybody, but this guy who has killed and raped a bunch of people, he's great. It's weird. It's weird that all these people have this through line of supporting authoritarians. And you might think, Jordan, that's an offensive Italian accent. If you had played Leo Zagami, it sounds very similar.

Dead on. It's pretty dead on. You're, you're a little bit. I'm a little broad. I'm a little broad, but that's for comic effects. You need to keep it in Tuscan. You're venturing a little bit far from the countryside, but you're not far off. So, uh, Alex, uh, comes back and I think he pulled a prank on Owen,

but I'm not sure. Listen to this and see if you think this is a prank. I think it is. Check it away. And Alex Jones is back with us. We're having some fun today. Are you turned his mic off? That's your prank.

I think it was a prank. Is he turned his mic off? I think it was. I think Alex feeling feisty after giving this deposition. I just beat Hillary's lawyers. Bad. Or I just lost. Oh, shit.

Yelling at fake Hillary's lawyers. And I've got to assert power in the only way I know how, which is fucking with my subordinates. So take it away, Owen, knowing that his mic is off. He's a great boss. He's a great guy to work for, Dan. Dan, do you want to, do you want to gig? Do you want another office deep?

Dan, Dan. Oh no, my mic is turned off. You're so funny. We like to have fun. I'm certain that's a prank. It has to be, right? There's no other explanation for that. No, there's no other.

I mean, they run an amateurish operation. No, for sure. But no, that was, that was 100% on purpose. Alex on air is taking away, Owen. Yep. It's got to be. Yep. And the little.

We like to have fun around here. Yeah. And, and you can almost sense from Owen to a sense of like, all right. Yeah. No, absolutely. Let's listen to that again. It brings me joy.

Give me one more time. Take it away, Owen. Take it away. Oh, my God. And Alex Jones is back with us. All right. All right. We're having some fun today.

That, all right. All right. That is. That's exasperation. That is a put upon man. Yeah. That's a guy who this isn't the first fucking time Alex has done something that's like, look, I am 15 years younger than you.

Maybe. I think you're lying about your age, but technically I'm probably on paper 15 years younger than you. And I'm trying to be a fucking professional. I'm boring. I'm not great at this, but I'm trying. And you are just fucking it up. You son of a bitch.

That is, that is such the sound of a man who's like, why do I get paid by this guy? Deep sigh. Couldn't I have done, I could have been so many other things. What if I went to a real journalism school? I could have just gone to a real journalism school. I should have left Missouri. I could have been a pipe fitter.

My grandfather was a pipe fitter. My father was a pipe fitter. And I got stuck with this John Birch fucking monster. So Alex in his coming back on the show in the third hour, doesn't say a whole lot, just rambling about a bunch of nonsense, but he says something and it is so awesome. I've been wanting to find him saying this and I haven't found it. I've never found it.

I've found other people saying this. We've clowned on people saying this before. We've never been able to make it stick to Alex. Now we can. Not all the fellow reserves are bad because they're not really the fellow reserve. They just take care of the management of the low level stuff, but policy is set by the New York Fed.

That's the real holding corporation. That's 80 plus percent. Whatever. Well, I know this is congressional testimony in 1913 before it was. There it is. Three senators in a quorum vote on December 23rd, 1913. Everybody else was gone for recess for Christmas. They were roasting chestnuts by the fire and.

I was in there cooking the turkey. Is that a little Wayne poll? And they were all back pushing this thing through that gave a private group of central banks total control over the currency, over the interest rates, overall of it. So Alex, that is so awesome because we've only heard Wayne Paul say that in the Obama deception. Oh, hell yeah.

And it's easy enough to write off that happening as Wayne Paul being an old cook. He is an old cook. Certainly. But you can't really pin that to Alex because we know a couple of things about Alex. One is he fetishizes the Paul family. And so he'd give them deference over anything.

Yeah. And maybe Wayne didn't say anything else in those interviews that was usable. Right. And they're like, oh, this sounds good. Yeah. And Alex is a lazy fucking editor. So the idea that.

Yeah, we know that. That was in his movie. You can't really stick it to him. There's too many other explanations. But now Alex in 2018 on his show is arguing that that three people pushed through the Federal Reserve and he says on December 23rd, when everyone was home cooking chestnuts on the open fire,

I want to tell you this on December 23rd, 1913, you know what happened? Woodrow Wilson signed the bill into law. And earlier in the day, the Senate voted on it. Okay. Then that means that that's how law works. I've seen schoolhouse rock. Woodrow Wilson signed the bill into a law.

The Senate voted on it. That means it spent zero time being written or discussed. Long time. There were no committees. There were no language disputes. There were no amendments. It was simply done on that day. Dan, everything was written up.

It was actually just free styled by one of those senators and a goddamn stenographer wrote it down and it became law. Tell me that is the truth there. No, it takes us back to at least like January 1912. When there were bills introduced that were very similar. And then there was a process of refinement and all that. December 22nd, 1913, the House voted on it. It was 298 yeas to 60 nays with 76 not voting.

But again, as we discussed, there were 34 announced pairs. So that accounts for 68 of the 76 people who didn't vote. They were paired up as one yay and one nay. We're going to vote. No, you're going to vote. Yay. So let's all get out of here. So 298 to 60 is very close to what the vote would have been

if everyone showed up or at least is representative. Right. So that was on the 22nd. On the 23rd, it went to the Senate. Same bill. It was voted in 43 yeas, 25 nays, 27 not voting with 13 announced pairs, which accounts for 26 of the 27 non-voters. Right.

This idea that three people is utter bullshit. We clad on and come from. It's just a dumb thing that exists in Patriot mythology and in sort of these anti-tax communities. It's all just a load of bullshit. But what it is, is there's a lot bigger story to it. And a lot of it is in like, none dare call it conspiracy and stuff like that.

That it all traces back to a lot of like weird anti-communist dudes. Yeah. In past dispensers. Yeah, in years past. And so I honestly would love to know the specific answer to this. Why do they think that?

Because it's not true. And name them. Sure, that would be good. I would like the names of the three senators. I would like their names. I would like their career stats. I would like to know if they average 20 and 10 a night or what kind of level they were dealing with here.

The bigger point and the thing that's really important is Alex is here talking shit. He's talking straight shit. Yeah. The idea that he's coming on his show and saying that the federal reserve was pushed through by three people. That's indefensible. Like we can make so many jokes.

I mean, the stuff about Desmond is awesome is unforgivable on a human level and absolutely is the more important piece of everything. Yeah. But the idea that he's coming in and he's talking about, I understand anthropology and archaeology and most civilizations only last two to 300 years because the priest class rises up, makes pyramids and then wants to fuck it.

Sure. That's like, all right, buddy, calm down. This is, it's way worse to me because that should be a sign to everybody listening get out. Yeah. Like you could make an argument that it's going to take you too long to understand past civilizations or something like that.

That would involve reading a lot of books. This one is a Google search. It's even just like the document that you guys fucking jerk off on all the goddamn time literally will not allow that to happen. No. No. That's not a thing that can happen.

No. And in our Obama deception coverage, I think we war games what would have happened if three senators the idea of how easy a veto would have been even if Woodrow Wilson signed it. 01:58:44,240 --> 01:58:44,800 Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's all just fucking complete nonsense.

It is. It is. Like on principle, even if they were in favor of the Federal Reserve, I guarantee those senators would still be like bullshit. Yeah, yeah, of course. As soon as you get back, you're like, no, we're not that. Look, hey, guys, guess what?

Guess what the Constitution also allows for a new bill saying do over. Right. If all of them got together and we're like, we don't like this, you guys nefariously put the three dudes nefariously push that through. Guess what? We have a majority who is going to now vote for not this bill.

The bill that undoes your bill or whatever. There's a hundred fucking different versions. This is lunacy. It's stupid. I love it though. It's so great that Alex said it to to the stupid. There is nothing more nefarious than a group of intelligent people getting together and not asking for

your dumb, uninformed and pointless opinion and then doing something that's better for you. Yeah, that's something that they have to destroy. Wait, don't you know? Don't you write the Obamacare bill without asking me whether or not there were enough senators to vote on the Federal Reserve? Fuck you.

You're stupid. Yeah. Go away. Yeah. I mean, my, my bigger point, and I think this is the only thing I really want to stress is like, I, I, I kind of like I should have done this a long time ago, quite frankly, but I give up on all hope of anybody who

believes in Alex Jones. If they hear him say, and I'm sure he said it before, it hasn't come up in any of the episodes that we've covered him saying the three people number. Yeah. Only heard that from Wayne Paul. Right. But the idea that anybody could possibly listen to his

show, hear that and not be like, huh, what? Yeah. They're gone. Yeah. And I'm not saying I'm not saying they're a lost cause and they can't eventually find the right path. But I am saying, I don't, I don't give a shit if your spidey sense doesn't chime in there, you, you are dumb

as a pile of rocks. So congratulations, Alex. What you have done is it's the same thing that YouTube's algorithm does in terms of like radicalizing people by gradually more and more extreme videos being recommended to them. Yeah. Alex has done the sort of, I guess similar, but almost

a reverse thing where because of all of his troubles and his, his amplified rhetoric and his dumbing down of his own content, what he's done is ensured that the only people that are left are. Just dumb. Infectual dollars. Too dumb. And it's, it, you can't, you can't have questioning

people at all in your audience. Oh, no, absolutely. You can't have curious, reasonable people. If you say three people past the federal reserve into existence and they aren't like, Alex, please retract that. I like you, but that is unacceptable. It's ridiculous.

You can't have any thinking people. No. It's crazy. Absolutely not. So anyway, congratulations, Alex. I hate you. Keep that Christmas sale going. Jesus, yeah.

Because you have nothing. God, I want him to comment us so bad. I want to sue him for something. I'm just so, I today just, we have these episodes. It's weird. We have these episodes where like for the most part, I think we're just like having fun. We're talking about a monster.

We're talking about a monster, but it's, it's that kind of ineffectual stupid monster. Yeah. But whenever it is such a, whenever he takes it and focuses that ineffectual stupidity and, and diffuses it amongst his monstrous following, and then he focuses it on a child. It's crazy.

That's, that's awful. Yeah. That's, that like, I, I know, I can't hammer on this enough. He's morally directing thousands upon thousands of people to hurl abuse towards a kid. All in the name of saying that the leftists are abusing a kid. Yeah. No, totally.

Let's fuck down. All you have to do is put two pieces of information together, the aftermath and consequences of his behavior vis-a-vis Sandy Hook and his behavior now. Exactly. That's all you have to do is put those two together to reasonably and rationally expect, oh, your actions now are going to lead to the same sort of response.

Now I'll say this and this is cold comfort on some level, but when Sandy Hook happened, his audience was probably much wider than it is now, given that he is off YouTube. He can't, you know, he's off Twitter and that sort of thing. I think that there's a decent chance that the effect he can have in terms of precipitating abuse for Desmond is, is lower than it was a few years ago.

But a flip side of that coin is, as I've already said, the people who are still around are dumber. More radicalized. Right. Yeah. And so there's the possibility that the smaller amount of people who are still around might be more prone to being that sort of person. But who knows?

We can't say for sure. I mean, then the, but the other argument against that though is, yeah, his audience was wider back then, but if they have left by now, chances are they also probably weren't the ones who are harling abuse. Yeah. That's the same argument. They weren't the ones who are doing the Sandy Hook shit.

Totally possible. Yeah. Yeah. It's speculative to some nature and it really doesn't matter because the, I don't, I don't look at things like this based on the outcome. That's right. The outcome is illustrative of why you shouldn't do the thing.

Right. But the morality of it is based on should you do this or not. Yeah. Not, it's not, it's not consequence based necessarily. It's actions are, God, I cannot imagine. I really can't imagine a situation where I would be fine with any of that. Yeah. I mean, it's fucked up that Adon Salazar wrote that article

and then it's fucked up that any, like you imagine that maybe there are editors at info wars. I know there are people whose titles are editor. 02:04:44,960 --> 02:04:46,400 Like Paul Joseph Watson, but like. Yeah. But like who actually reads it and. I don't know what the process is like,

but the idea that someone wrote that article and then. I believe it's L Ron Hubbard's process, which is first draft, last draft, get it out the door. Sure. But the idea in any other journalistic outfit, there would be stages of review that it would have to go through before it was ever posted on the site or published or anything like that. And you know, I know that, I know that info wars doesn't work like that,

but I still hold them to that standard. So I imagine that someone looked at that and said, good, put it on the site. Let's do this. Yep. I can't, I can't imagine adults being like that. That's disgusting. Yeah.

It's really, really fucking great. It's next level bed. Yeah. So congratulations, Alex. You've grossed us out even after two years. Even after all of the fucking shit we watch you do, you are a disgusting pile of shit once more. Which is no floor.

There's no floor. I wanted to look and see what happened on the 20th. I wanted to see what happened on Thursday, but after all that, I was just kind of exhausted. Yeah. No, no, fuck that. I expected to find stuff about Flynn and Roger Stone and instead. Yeah, I know.

Damn. I want, I want him to go away for a while. Yeah. Christ. Happy holidays, Alex. Hope that Christmas sales going great. Yeah. Anyway guys, we'll be back.

It doesn't appear that we'll be taking a break for the next week. So we'll be back on Monday and all. We will see you then. But until then, we have a website. We do have a website. Knowledgefight.com. Indeed. We're on the Twitters.

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Yeah. I'll tell you, tell your friends. Snitch on the show. Hell yeah. We see the growth that comes from that and we appreciate it. Absolutely. I will say that Desmond is awesome. Never killed anybody.

I guarantee Desmond has never killed anybody. I am positive of that. 11 years. It's not enough time to have killed somebody. Generally speaking, you kind of, you know. There are exceptions to any rule. But I'm going to go with Desmond. There are accidental guns you might find around someone's house.

But Alex says that doesn't happen. No. I don't think you have the muscle strength to get a good stab in. I might be wrong. Who knows? I mean, maybe on somebody younger than you. I still think that your musculature isn't right for a stab. A good stab is fine.

I'm basing this on nothing. A good stab is fine? Sure. What did I say? I don't know. My point is that Desmond is awesome. Has never killed anybody. Although he is being attacked by a guy who technically probably has.

And that's Alex Jones. Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. Hello, Alex. I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you.