Knowledge Fight - #244: October 5, 2014

Episode Date: December 26, 2018

Today, Dan and Jordan are sent on a time-travel adventure by Policy Wonk George Soros Jr. The gents are sent back to see what Alex Jones' angle was on the 2014 Ebola outbreak, to cover the day after it was reported that there was a confirmed case in Texas. Actually, this episode covers 4 days after that news was reported, since Alex was on vacation at the time, and this is his first day back.

Andy and Chanzos, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. So Alex, I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you. Hey, everybody. Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. And Dean, we are Dan.

What up? Dan! Hey. What's the most work you ever had to do to get a bottle of wine? Hmm. One time. I found a bunch of grapes. What the fuck are you talking about?

I bought a vineyard. I don't know what I want. I don't know. Okay. I've gone to the store to buy a bottle of wine. What the fuck? I have you. Wait.

What kind of story do you expect there to be in this question? Maybe what I should more say, what's the furthest you've gone to get alcohol? What is like, when you have you been in a situation? There have been hundreds of times when I've like walked hours. Yeah. And then, but it's only because I never found it. You know, like especially around the area we are in Uptown in Chicago, there are so many places that close super early,

but you have this idea that if you just go five more blocks, you'll find some place. It's going to be somewhere. I've done that a number of times in the past few years, just walking around for like an hour and a half. I got to give up. Do you not have any, do you not have any like a high school story? No, no, like a high school story where it's like you had to be in high school.

So like I had no trouble really. I found booze pretty easily when I once I started drinking. Yeah. So I had a beard. I would just go and people had rarely ever heard me. That's fair. That's fair. So that, that never was too big of an issue.

And then I started hanging out at this gutter punk bar and they just didn't give a shit either. They all assumed I was of age and I worked at a gas station. When I worked there, they all assumed I was 21. So they sold me booze at the gas station or worked at. All right. So yeah, booze was never really a problem. You had a cheat code.

Your beard is a cheat code to age. Yeah. Since you were nine, you've been 21. Yeah, kind of. I mean, I didn't start drinking until, I don't know, 17 or so maybe 16, 17. Yeah. So that's, that's not too far off. No, no, but I didn't come in.

I didn't come in hot. Right. It took me a little while to get to the point where I'm like, oh, I got my booze legs sort of sorted out. I jumped in full force. Like the first time I drank it was because one of my friends and this is the length that we had to go to booze. This is why you asked me the question.

No, no, no. I asked you a question because there's a gift situation. I had to, I have to, I had to go a long way to find a specific bottle of wine for somebody for a gift. Oh, I see. But this is the way that my childhood, as far as buying booze went. One of my friends stole a bottle of Jack full on fifths from the rec center in our town.

Why do the rec center have Jack Daniels? Isn't there so many questions that need to be answered? That's the first of them. How did he know? Where did he go? How did he steal it in the first place? I guess if it's like in the filing cabinet or something like that and the employees nip into it or something, it gives a shit.

But he didn't work there. Right. You know, someone had to have snitched on the bottle. Something like that. All right. And so we just, we just essentially drank the whole bottle. My first time drinking, we drank an entire bottle of whiskey together. So my first time drinking was like in earnest was at a park.

Of course, everybody's usually when you're that age, you go to a park. Mine was an attic, but okay. I was hanging out with my friend, John and Aaron. Couple dudes I knew, uh, from my K life group, a life, right? That's right. Uh, nothing says Jesus more than drinking in a park. Right. Right.

We were sort of more rebellious end of the, uh, the, our small group in K life. Yeah. And, uh, Aaron's parents had a liquor cabinet and they had, uh, what did we take? We took a bottle of wine, bottle of red wine, a bottle of peppermint schnapps. And we went to the park and we were drinking those and because we were so young and dumb, we decided to mix them together and so we ended up, yeah. We were like halfway done with them. We mixed them together and we had wine and peppermint schnapps.

It was disgusting. Make matters worse. It was freezing out. I feel like that would open a portal into hell though. Just nobody's ever done that before. It's crazy that I drank again after that because it was a fucking awful time. Yeah. In the middle of a cold park with wine and schnapps.

Jesus. Did you get to the end of that story? Yeah. That's the end of that. Oh, you just, uh, you found a bottle. A friend found a bottle of booze at the rec center. The story is, he didn't find it. He stole it.

He stole it. He like oceans 11 did as he told it. I see. I see. And the story is about how hard it was to get not the actual drinking. Sure. Sure. Sure.

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I like quizzes. I like the word quick because it's a nest quick. How much further are we going to go? No further. Are we going to make fun of my stories now? Yep. Uh, next, I'd like to say thank you to Osma. You are now a policy wonk.

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Thank you very much, April. If you'd like to support the show, you can do that by going to our website, knowledgefight.com, clicking that support the show button. We would appreciate it. Dude, you can't. Now, Jordan, before we get into today's business, I think it is important for us to take a little second to give a special message out there to, uh, to a listener who's, uh, is out there in his car.

He's out there. What? Where is this going? Probably this morning from what I hear. This guy's celebrating a birthday. He's, uh, hold on. Is he driving a snow plow? I feel like it's important for him to be driving a snow plow.

What's saving lives? What's the furthest you've ever gone to get into a snow plow? Six miles. So I don't need to give details. We'd like to go a little bit out of our way to spend us, uh, send a special thank you message out there to, uh, Walt. Thank you so much for listening to the show. Happy birthday to you.

Lee sent us a message and, uh, we all wish you. What are you snitching on, Lee? Yeah, I feel like that's public information. You can't snitch it on, Lee. No, no, no. The message is coming from us. No, no. It needs to be more like we have a weird, psychic connection to Walt.

Like we've always known Walt's birthday before Walt's ever even listened to the fucking show. We always knew Walt's birthday. There we go. That's a good angle. I'm going to resist taking that angle and just say, uh, I mean, Jordan, the only thing we can do is sing happy birthday. Okay.

No, wait, hold on. One second. Let's hit a C. I'm all positive. There are so many other things we can do that sing happy birthday with me. I'm not harmonizing with you because that is not a C. Happy birthday. No, this is worse.

It's not in the public domain. I can't say it anyway. Happy birthday. Walt. Hope you have a great one. Uh, uh, yeah. Yeah, happy birthday. Yeah, that's great.

So now Jordan, let's get into today's business. Um, wacky Wednesday is upon us and, uh, we might need to change the name of wacky Wednesday, uh, from wacky Wednesday to maybe just wild Wednesday or weird Wednesday or something like that. Because sometimes it's not all that wacky. So are we, are we married to the alliteration? Could we just call it? I certainly like it out of the ordinary Wednesday.

That's a little bit clunky. Is that a little clunky? Doesn't roll off the tongue. All right, all right, all right, harmonize with me on it. That's a good C. You don't know. Shit. I was almost in the Honolulu.

Oh man. My mom is a music teacher. My little sister is a music teacher. I have been involved in many musical pursuits, including. That's right. Musical theater. Cool. The greatest of art forms.

I was in a musical in high school called we has jazz. That wasn't in high school. Was it junior high, middle school? That was three years ago in community theater. It was a middle school production. It also was three years ago. Don't want to talk about it. So I wandered into a middle school walk.

I've been walking a long time trying to find booze. Yep. Yeah. Just turned out to be an audition and who knew I got it. We should just call this riff heavy Wednesday apparently. Look, the thing is Wednesday is going to serve as a sort of additional episode. We'll obviously still be doing a lot of stuff about Project

Cam a lot. Obviously going to dip back in eventually to Reverend Manning, Coach Dave, Jim Baker. I'll certainly keep my eye on him for times we can talk about him and we've gotten a lot of great suggestions from people about stuff that might fit into that fold. And keep my eyes open looking for possibilities for sure. But also like I said, I think it is also a perfect place for

us to fulfill time travel requests. Absolutely. So today we are going to be doing a time travel request and honoring the wish of one George Soros Jr. Why are you pointing at me? Because if you're a Dr. Who fan, that means today is a timey why me Wednesday. I like it.

Thank you very much. It's fine. That'll be whenever we do time. When we do a time travel for sure. That works. It retains the alliteration. Everything is good. So George Soros Jr. Who I have no idea who that actually is.

It's absolutely not Alexander Soros or anyone related to Soros. Are you sure? Yeah, I'm pretty sure. Hey, I'm telling you that Kennedy's hid one of their kids in an asylum. Right. I got an update on that.

It is true and it's very sad. Oh, it is true. He is very sad. Oh, I thought it was a joke. No, we laughed about that and I got a message about it. I felt very bad. No, that can't be. I like to learn.

But no, now I feel awful. Yeah. So George Soros Jr. got in touch with me and wanted to know about what Alex Jones talked about when the Ebola outbreak happened in 2014. Okay. I was going to say which in 1976. I don't know why I was like which.

That's you are. You're in a mood right now. It's fun. It's a fun mood. It's a riffy, riffy kind of day. I like the idea of unnecessary response questions. The Ebola outbreak. Oh, which so many to choose from.

So in 2014, there was a bit of an Ebola outbreak that centered in West Africa. It was centered largely and began in Guinea and then eventually spread into Sierra Leone in Liberia where it was the worst in Liberia was particularly hit hard by this. Right. It ended up getting taken care of and then getting worse or not getting worse and maybe it got worse.

I'm not entirely sure how you judge that. Yeah. But Sierra Leone and Liberia were declared free of Ebola and then more cases popped up and it ended up going on until 2016. Like 2016 is when all of it ended in earnest. Right. And that period of time was very heavy in the propaganda community. The people made a lot of mileage out of the idea that Ebola was

on the rise and all that stuff. And they had two years to fucking make. Well, but even in 2014, particularly, it was pretty serious. And so in September 2014, excuse me, September 2014 is when things got to be like it's it's getting outside of Africa and there was a case in the United States. The first case was in Dallas actually and it was announced on September 30th 2014.

Yeah. So because George Soros Jr. gave me such vague, I don't mean this judgmentally, but gave me a vague idea of where to go to. I was like, okay, the first case is in Texas. Alex has got to freak out about this fucking yard. Yeah. This is in Dallas, but it's still got to be like, okay.

So that was announced on the 30th. I'm going to October 1st. Why not? That's got to be a fucking freak out show. It's like the beginning of outbreak. Right. Yeah. Absolutely.

Yeah. As is almost always the case. No mention of it. No, this is a weird trend that I've noticed from these time travel requests that people make. Alex is almost never in studio when big news breaks whenever the Pope resigned, he was on vacation and David Knight was hosting when the Ebola outbreak happened and the there was a case in Texas.

He's on vacation and Paul Joseph Watson's hosting. And so we're not going to do that. Hell no. So I found the first episode where Alex is back from vacation after there was a case in the United States in Texas of someone with Ebola and that happens to be October 5th, 2014 and that is the episode we'll be going over today. Okay.

We'll be getting into the specifics of the actual outbreak and some of that stuff along the way, but it is actually interesting. A lot of this, a lot of Alex's angle on it is kind of, kind of predictable, but then there's a lot to learn along the way too. So I feel like this is also going to be one of our time travel episode trends where it's like, whatever it was that you were asking for that got us to the time travel episode, we wind up talking about everything but that.

I don't think so in this case, but that was, I mean, that was the case with the Malaysian plane. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. In this, in this instance, I think there's, it's a lot about the actual Ebola stuff. Oh, no shit.

No, he's lying about a lot of it. No, of course. Well, hold on. Yeah. It is still Alex. Yeah. Yeah. But it is interesting.

He's actually on topic and part of that might be because he's recharged from vacation and then another piece of it might be as Ebola could be another part of it might be that this is also a Sunday show. October 5th is a Sunday show. So he has less time to fill. I think he feels less pressured and at this period in his career, that was still much more of a lucrative thing for him.

It was still, I believe, I believe the syndication of it was higher than his Genesis communications. So, so when we started this episode today, Jordan, I'll be honest with you, I had fully intended to not tell you why I chose October 5th 2014 instead of giving me a detailed reasoning for choosing it. I was going to try and be like, Hey, here's the date. Do you know why it is?

Yeah. Yeah. And then I would pick up on that one and then I could have played the first clip where he says like we're in talk about Ebola and you'd be like, God damn it. That could have happened in another universe. That is how this episode started. But in this universe, it starts with us playing an out of

context drop from today's show. It's so sick. How men will corner you in an elevator and go, What do you think about delts, cowboys? I'm sorry. I don't follow that. I'm not manly. I'm not manly like you.

Okay. Okay. So crazy. It's so crazy to me. He does these things with like masculinity. He has it from both sides. So like he wants all of it. He wants every part of the buffalo of making you feel things

about masculinity. Yeah. Yeah. He wants to scream about it being under attack, but he also wants to attack the masculinity of people who like football because they're too masculine. Right. It's very confusing.

I don't know. Anyway, it seems very unmasculine as masculine being in his conception. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I have no baggage in terms of that. I don't care to be like, you like football.

That's too much. I got, I got, I got nothing. Yeah. Anyway, let's get into this episode. Here's how the episode starts with Alex introducing the topic of Ebola. I believe it's already the fifth day of October, 2014. Why?

Alex Jones were live broadcasting worldwide, some casting video and then full wars.com forward slash show. I want to open the phones up today and talk to Texans, but Americans and other people around the world for that matter about the handling of Ebola 2014. I'll say that he does not open up the phones for another 48 minutes after this. So he didn't want to do it that badly.

Who won that election? I was it Ebola or was it McCain in 2014? I don't remember. McCain won the battle. That was his sentence. Ebola won the war. Okay. Okay.

All right. Little known fact that's a brain cancer was caused by Ebola. Really? That's what I've heard. I don't know. I read it on the fucking world news daily. Well, world net daily.

I don't know. Might as well be true. Yeah. So Alex has got a lot of feelings about this Ebola situation and you can obviously predict where he's going to go with this. I'm certain you can. I don't want to put you on the spot.

I'm not trying to pimp you into this, but I really think you can guess. 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:15,900 All right. Here is. Here is my theory. This is going to be good. Here's my theory.

All right. Now it's going to be good if you're right. It's going to be great if you're wrong. There's something I know. So this is prior to our 2015 investigation. But I'm going to say that a lot of the lessons that I learned in 2015 should still be applicable in 2014. It's not that far away.

Yeah, I think so. And in October, that was close to when we started our 2015 investigation. So he's closer to early 2015 investigation, Alex, than other versions of Alex that we've seen in the past. So if you want to use that as a metric, go for it. All right. So here's the facts.

Just the facts, man. Just the facts, man. We on drag. Yes, we are on drag. Come on. I am a 1950s comedy writer that is repurposing. Come on. All right.

I am 100% certain that this is Obama's fault. You bet. I am 100% certain that there's going to be a lot of racism involved because it's in Africa. Well, at the same time, he's going to pretend that he is a crusader for African people in order to make sure that everybody may be a little bit of theirs about black people. I think the racism is fairly veiled, but it's certainly

there. I assume it's part of the globalist larger plan that they're doing a soft launch of genetic diseases and bio weapons in Africa because they know you won't care about them. But the one time that a guy lands in Dallas, that's how we know that they're beginning the full assaults, Dan. Jordan, you have just got a B on your final exam this semester.

I'll take a B. There are some elements in there that you fucking nailed and then there's some things you couldn't possibly expect that are also part of his narrative like this. And they've got MSNBC headlines. How the NRA is making the Ebola crisis worse. I've seen headlines about Perry better do a good job with Ebola in Texas or he'll be in political trouble.

How is it Rick Perry's job to control the airplanes flying in? That's the federal. Oh, so that's what the federal government does. I don't. We finally, we finally found out what the federal government does. The federal government is for.

Shots down planes. Controlling when planes go to Texas. How is it Rick Perry's fault if a plane lands in Texas? I mean, it is like the FAA, right? I mean, is the federal aviation. I guess. But like, Alex, you don't give anybody a pass on anything. It'd be like, fucking, it's the fence fault.

If people wanted to build a fucking road, he lost his mind. But hey, look, the federal government can fly planes wherever they want. I don't understand. I don't understand the skies. He hates Rick Perry and to his credit, he's not, he's not letting Rick Perry off the hook here. But he is saying that like, what he needs to do is get in

Obama's fucking face about this. Sure. Rick Perry isn't being aggressive enough to Obama about it. That's the deficiency of Obama or I'm sorry, of Rick Perry. Because of the flights. That's a federal. And by the way, where that clip ended where he says that's a federal.

That's where the sentence, that's where the sentence. Yeah, but also we see this introduction of this new story that the NRA is making the Ebola crisis worse. Alex is fucking not happy about that. That's a headline, baby. That both sounds like it will be backed up by some statistics and if you continue to think about it, you're like, I don't want to throw them on this one.

They can't, the NRA can't possibly be making Ebola worse. The Ebola crisis. The Ebola crisis. Well, they can probably make it sound worse. I don't think they're actively going out and giving people who wouldn't otherwise get Ebola Ebola. We will find out exactly what this article is about as soon as Alex actually talks about it.

But for now, he's just complaining about a headline. Here we go. Because he hasn't read the article spoiler alert. When it gets to the article, he still hasn't read it, but he also has to complain about PC culture and how that's involved in this holy Ebola crisis. Don't understand that, but fine. And political correctness has paralyzed this country.

That's what it's designed to do. Like Ebola. Last few years, we've seen articles at colleges across the United States and England where they say don't have a Halloween party and don't dress up like a geisha girl or an Eskimo or don't do that cowboy or a Native American or a pirate because it's hurtful. I was reading an email and none of my friends sent me from

their big yoga studio that they attend where they were going to have a India style party. What? Bollywood. Do you mean? And they said, well, were we a complaints that would be racist if we dressed up like people from India? No, if you put a lot of yoga on your face to make you look

like you're in, yeah, shut it down. Wearing a saree is fine. We can't even shut flights down from countries where they're estimating 1.4 to 5 million people will get Ebola by the time it runs its course. They are trying to get out in mass. So this idea that he's perpetuating there is this idea that PC culture is stopping us from talking about this as it

really is in the same way. They won't let me dress up like a geisha girl or something. Yes, don't use someone's fucking ethnicity as a costume. That is very insensitive. That is that is a good rule of thumb. Alex. I don't know about this yoga studio you're talking about because it sounds a lot like that that time that you wore

a Nazi hat at a party. Hey, no, the the things is a boatman's cap that those things that the yoga studio people are talking about how like we can't have a fun India party. That sounds exactly like the side characters in the Nazi hat Halloween. Oh, yeah. Where they're like, I can't even wear a costume anymore.

Everyone's offended. Oh, it's terrible. It almost sounds like a made up character in a story you're trying to make a point with. Come on, Alex. Wouldn't you be so offended if a black person dressed up as chicken fingers and fries and stole your culture? So he's saying that like millions of people are going to

get Ebola. Yeah, they're predicting. And also he eventually does end up saying that hundreds of thousands of people have it. He's going to say that. I want to tell you that when it was all over in 2016, June 2016, Guinea was officially declared Ebola free. 28,600 people total total got Ebola between Guinea, Liberia,

Sierra Leone, all other countries in Mali, Nigeria, Italy, the United Kingdom. There was a case there. A couple of people in Spain, Senegal and the U.S. Holy shit. Can we just say real quick? That's amazing. If you are against vaccines, go fucking fuck yourself.

But even then, if you are against vaccines, our system of rooting out disease, if that's the total number of people got it now, that is fucking incredible. Especially over a two year plus time frame. Yeah. Everyone should be like, holy shit, great job guys. It could have been way worse. It could have been immensely worse.

And there were 11,325 deaths out of those 28,600 people, which is, you know, it's at a 40% death rate, which for Ebola, isn't Ebola like super? I don't know. I don't know anything about it. It depends on the strain and it depends on where the outbreak happens, but it does. Of course.

Like there are times, there have been outbreaks in history where it's like north of 90% fatality, but in this case, I don't remember. I was looking at the statistics in terms of like a country by country breakdown of this 2014 and some countries, there was a 0% fatality rate. America is 25%. One guy died out of four that ended up getting it.

That's not even really a percentage. That's it is though. I mean, it matters, but as far as like, it's just irrelevant in that 20,000 exactly. Yeah. That's what I mean, but I don't think the numbers were even super. Yeah.

I mean, 40 is right. I mean, 40 is around the total. So you could assume that just extrapolate from there. Sure. It is lower than some outbreaks in the past for sure. That being said, you know, I don't know what we were. I don't know the point we were trying to make, but yeah, it could have been way worse.

It could have been the point I was trying to make is that's amazing and anybody like Alex bitching about it and saying that, oh, this is the worst thing that could ever happen. Should also at the end of 2016 say got to give it up to him. That's fucking amazing. No, totally great work. We can good job. I agree with that, but we also can't expect Alex in 2014 to

know what the end result will be in 2016, but him saying that there are like hundreds of thousands of people who have Ebola in 2014 when at the end of it, it's not even, it's just north of a quarter of 100,000 total people who ended up catching it at the end of it means that he's just blowing this way out of proportion. Absolutely. And so one of the things is he thinks that the United States

in particular and some other countries, but he doesn't really name any other countries other than the United States aren't doing what they need to do to make sure that this doesn't become a problem. The Arab countries, the African countries, the UK, France, all in the last month and a half banned flights out of Sierra Leone, Liberia and other areas. And Rick Perry will have epidemic levels, hundreds of thousands

of Ebola spreading. UN models are 1.4 to 5 million people getting it. Millions dying by the end of the year. I don't know that's accurate. That's what they're saying. That's not what they're saying. There are, there were like all these sites that were giving these terrible worst case scenario.

I think Alex is pulling it from there. So he's, he's saying that all of these other countries have instituted these travel bans on people from these affected countries and the United States won't do that and that's fucked up in the aftermath of an outbreak. It makes total sense to think that the solution is closing down borders and restricting travel to countries where that particular medical issue exists.

But when you take a closer look at history, all you see is evidence that these travel bans don't work, make things worse and are a stupid misallocation of resources. That doesn't sound right. Travel bans always work. For instance, in 1987 Ronald Reagan put in place a ban on people with HIV or AIDS coming to America. This did nothing to restrict the spread of the disease, the

condition, excuse me, and in 1989 they did a review of the ban and found it to be, quote, ineffective, impractical, costly, harmful, and maybe discriminatory. The study found that travelers played little to no role in the spread, but efforts toward prevention made an actual difference. Beyond that, they found that screening travelers for HIV and AIDS was all good and well, but the process was

intrinsically flawed and would inevitably lead to negative folks being labeled as positive and vice versa. That's completely pointless and this ineffective ban was in place until Obama got in office. I'm really glad that we learned our lesson, realized that travel bans were ineffective and never again tried to institute them. No, no, certainly not. I'm glad we learned our lesson.

Isn't it crazy that in 87 Reagan put that into place and we don't even really even remember that it stayed in place because no one was paying attention or whatever until after 2008. Yeah, no, it's, it's crazy, it's crazy because it stayed in place so long. It checks out. It's absolutely not crazy.

Check it out. It's crazy from our perspective, but from the America and a whole where like, yeah, no, that sounds right. It, it, it checks out in terms of like what you'd expect kind of, but it also was like, wow, I didn't think, I didn't think it was, we were that dumb. It wasn't until Obama's administration that anybody was like, Oh, we should care about humans.

I don't know. Yeah. Maybe not. Who cares? Or no, maybe the government specifically like HIV positive even all the way through it. Well, like with Clinton's comments about HIV positive people and you don't expect W to do anything positive ever.

No. So yeah. No social evolution. And then also those, those years when there was some good progress being made being under W, like the good social progress and stuff. Yeah. Yeah.

You're never going to see that mirrored up top. Nope. So yeah, I guess it does kind of make sense. Anyway, it's a bummer. Also super bummer after there were some cases of H one and one in Mexico in 2009. Many countries cut off flights to and from the country. There was a 40% decrease in Mexican travel volume.

A study after the fact found that quote, that only led to an average delay in arrival of the infection in other countries, ie the first imported case of less than three days. And they found quote, no containment was achieved by such restrictions. Huh. So there's a consistent pattern that that shows that all

you're doing is putting things off by a couple days in service of what? Now, I think and I'm sure that this did not affect tourist income or we're going to get to that a little bit. We're going to get to that a little bit. It's almost like it didn't do any of the positive things that you hoped it would. Right.

And it only made destitute so many places that relied on that income. We're going to get to some of those like issues that I actually think are kind of minimal in terms of like when you're talking about people dying of like a hemorrhagic fever. Yeah. I don't particularly care too much about like talking

about finances. I mean, I get it. It is a variable in that that belongs in the calculus, but it seems crass to think it matters more than people. I'm not saying I know. No, I totally get you. I totally get you and I agree with you and I shouldn't be defensive about it and you're absolutely right.

So in October 2014 study of the actual travel bands put in place in response to the outbreak of Ebola found that quote the travel bands are only delaying the further international spread of the Ebola outbreak in West Africa for a limited time at the risk of compromise and connectivity to the region, mobilization of resources to the affected area and sustained response operations. All actions of critical value to the immediate local

control of the Ebola and for preventing its further geographical spread. So all you do is end up sacrificing the idea of people being mobile to some extent for the sake of some imaginary lockdown you want to do. So you wind up spending a shit ton of money for a lockdown that doesn't make any sense while not allocating any resources to the prevention and the treatment that would

help a lot of people. That's a big part of it. There you go. Shutting down travel to and from affected regions feels like the right thing to do, but it's not. Not only does it not work historically, but it actually hurts things for two important interconnected reasons. The first is that it's not a reality that you're ever going

to be able to shut down all travel across borders. Borders are huge and people who really want to badly enough they want to leave. They'll find a patch of land. They can slip across a border. It's going to happen like you're never going to be able to completely insulate something. This leads to the second problem.

If you shut down travel for people from an affected region, you create an incentive for these people to lie about where they're traveling from, which in essence turns them from a variable you could monitor into one that's now completely unaccounted for. Studies have been done that show that this is the case and for Alex to not know this means that he's not operating from a position of wanting what's best for the world.

He's just looking for any excuse you can find to let Africa burn. The idea is when you do these these sorts of things you like like I said there you incentivize lying. It is someone is from let's say Guinea and they make it across a couple borders or whatever trying to escape trying to. Yeah, sure.

Certainly their intentions may be good, but they may also have it. And yeah, they might be a carrier and they don't know it. They're not showing they're not exhibiting symptoms. They can time and so they could slip into another country lie about where they're from be able to travel because that country where they they are coming from isn't included in this ban and what you do then is you're not able to.

I know it sounds ugly in terms of like flag them, but when you have an outbreak going on it isn't everyone's best interest to like if you are traveling from that country we need to know we don't want to hurt you know we need to be able to keep an eye just in case maybe we want to test you for Ebola right which is not a terrible thing. We're not trying to kill you. We're not trying to destroy you or quarantine you.

We just want to know which you can do if you allow the travel but if you shut everything down close all borders. What you do is incentivize breaking of the quarantine. It's almost like prohibition doesn't work. Yeah, and quarantines on a large level don't work also historically it's been shown over and over and over again. If you want to quarantine something very small like a person in a hospital or something like that.

Yeah, it does work very effectively. It also relies heavily on sanitation like that is an incredibly important piece of a quarantine. Yeah, but if you want to vigilance if you want. Yeah, and how how how willing are you to kill someone who's going to leave like do you want to turn this into a fascist quarantine or whatever like that is the other piece of it.

Yeah, like if you do want to do that then like okay your conception is X area is shut down because there's Ebola in there if someone tries to leave do you murder them do you kill them because if they get out someone else might get Ebola is that the kind of world or is that the situation you want if it is we have a different conversation to have right but my my big point is that Alex doesn't understand that travel bands don't really work and the

best example of this is the UK shut down travel to these countries and they still had a case of Ebola right in the UK of course Spain had you know there's a bunch of countries that ended up having people it's not it's not effective and it's Alex is only point it's all he's got but he also has a point about something else that's completely unrelated that I find very weird. If you came here a hundred years ago to Ellis Island you

got screened for TB about two thirds of the people got turned back at Ellis Island. Now it's just come on come on come on come on we're back to Ted Nugent get on in here yeah you had a just the right response to that is that true Alex has brass balls talking positively about Ellis Island with his firmly anti immigration positions that he espouses all the time we all know the reason why he speaks about Ellis Island as a positive thing it's

because of the immigrants coming in are the ones he thinks are good ones two thirds of the immigrants were not turned away at Ellis Island this is a profoundly stupid a historical thing for Alex to claim think about it these people came over here on ocean liners and arrived at Ellis Island in the tens of thousands thousands a day was not an uncommon thing during that time period if two thirds of them were turned away where would they fucking go are you going to incarcerate

all those people how much do you think that would cost are you going to pay for ships to take them back to wherever they came from how much you think that would cost and how much time would you waste crossing crossing the seat I'll tell you what you should shut down the government to make sure that it doesn't happen in reality only about 10% of the people who arrived at Ellis Island were subjected to heightened health screenings and 90% of those people were passed through with

no problems according to Barry Monero Ellis Island historian and librarian at the Ellis Island Museum the people in charge were largely just concerned with rooting out communists anarchists and possible labor agitators that was a very high priority in their screening interviews when people came in to Ellis Island Barry misses real calling because if his name is Barry Monero he should have been the greatest jazz artist of his age lounge act come on good banter hell yeah he should

play the saxophone and be incredibly sexism Barry Monero oh yeah so most immigrants who came through Ellis Island had no documentation no visas no passports nothing and they were processed and through they got through Ellis Island generally not all the time but generally within three to five hours some were detained while they're being processed if something came up in their their history or if there had been somebody who snitched on them before they came yeah there had to be

something sorted out or yeah or the authorities knew who they were because they were criminals on the right then the three five hour window that's out the window but if people got nice but if people got detained there while they're being processed they got a dormitory and they were provided food it was a damn it now obviously why why would we be doing so good back then about obviously wasn't perfect and no like everyone wasn't treated all that well but of course there is still like if

you look back on it's like certainly better than what's going on now I know with and with all the atrocities they were committing at the same time somehow they were like hey you know what this is actually a good idea let's do good here mm-hmm bananas you know how many immigrants were turned away and rejected at Ellis Island I know that Alex says that it's 66% I'm gonna go with 23,000 the actual number is 2% to quote Vincent Canado associate professor of history at the

University of Massachusetts Boston and author of American passage the history of Ellis Island quote the greatest contradiction or irony here is they have a massive inspection process and you have this restrictionist sentiment and all these people you want to keep out of the country at the end of the day less than 2% are rejected is a very small number of people who got rejected even with medical issues being considered one of the things is there there were you

know like this one year there's like a thousand people who got rejected generally it wasn't for hepatitis or whatever Alex is saying it's a there was this eye condition that was very close to Chlamydia there's very contagious yeah that was one of the easiest detectable things that a lot of people got taken out for that hey hey your eyes fucked up I probably wouldn't have made it I got a cross-eyed yeah yeah but you got a bad look about you so you got a thousand you know you

got a thousand one hundred people being rejected in one year for that but because of the mass in one year but because compared but that means that there were like 300,000 people that came through that year there there were over a million yeah at least one or two of the years that I was looking at raising statistics for yeah it's nuts and you know obviously Ellis Island isn't a perfect story of great success but Alex the pit the story that he's trying to perpetuate this idea

of like they didn't all they threw away everybody because they only accepted the best yeah whatever he's hearkening back to a past that doesn't exist the statistics are way off yeah and he's only doing it in service of trying to I think what it is if I had to guess I think he doesn't know anything number one yes but then the impetus behind it the emotional reason for it is justifying why those white immigrants that came in are good not based on their skin but I think some of

that I think some of that does come down to the logistics though like you can't incarcerate those people right like that would cost so much and to be pointless because even if you incarcerate them eventually what do you have to send it back so what do you send them back immediately Italy to pay for it yeah I don't know there's Mexico is going to build the wall there's no easy answer to it and I think that the people in charge recognize that and aired on the side of like all right

let's make sure there's no like legit dangers right that'll probably only take us a couple hours per person you know like we have it we have the ability to do this all right so this guy has a lot of nails coming out of him and we have not made Hellraiser yet so I can't I can't process a xenobite so go if we're gonna get we're gonna go we're gonna give him we're gonna give him 10 hours let's just hold him and let's just hold him for a bit I found that to be really fascinating I didn't

know that the rejection rate was that low I really find that fascinating too yeah so thank you for telling me at me scoffing at Alex's bullshit actually led to me learning something and I always enjoy that cool as fuck thanks George Soros Jr. Help me learn a little so we get back to the show here Alex's show and Alex has some other he has some ideas of how this case was handled the case of the gentleman who came to Dallas that was my favorite Hardy Boyce book the case of how the

gentleman came to Dallas yeah yeah Alex I also could have gone with encyclopedia brown but I went with hard or Hercule Oh no sir miss Marple listen we could name detectives all day we really could we actually probably could I got a few I got a Derringer in my boot of a detective so look yeah this guy came to Dallas who's looking for a soul of steel no you blame me for riffing and now you're gonna pull this shit out of here no yeah that's on me so look my friend comes to

I don't know how this I'm gonna let this go I want to see how this goes all right so Alex has some ideas about the handling of the circumstances of the Ebola case in Dallas and I'll say that if you believe him this sounds suspicious as fuck he's also wrong about everything our hospitals are so screwed up that when he went in a week before vomiting and sick they gave him antibiotics and said he had a virus antibiotics don't affect viruses they didn't even

clean for a week the hot the the ambulance for five days the ambulance he'd been in that doesn't sound like cleaning his apartment they did not doing anything folks they're not quarantining his family or people were around him and knew him because they obviously wanted to spread so that first thing that pops out to me I think actually was the first thing you responded to the idea they didn't clean the ambulance because they would do clean any ambulance any any end of day

routine shift change clean the fucking ambulance clean my work station and that's yeah so that was the first place that I went to when I was looking into this when I heard that I'm like I can't I can't imagine that's true absolutely so I looked into it Alex is trying as hard as he can to create the image of the powers that be are actively trying to precipitate an outbreak of Ebola here in the United States and it seems like a huge part of his argument is the ambulance hasn't been

cleaned a week later Alex is reporting this on October 5th when with this episode we're listening to comes from because he was on vacation when the news broke about the Dallas case on September 30th the night of September 30th I will now read to you from an article in CBS Dallas Fort Worth from September 30th when we found out the ambulance in question had Ebola in it we actually lit it on fire and then through the ashes into a frozen lake in order to and that's why we haven't

cleaned it because it is a burning rubble that is underneath a lake it's taken us a week because you had to create a perpetually frozen and burning like and that took some advances in technology we didn't even know tires could do that quote Dallas Mayor Mike Rawlings confirmed that an EMS crew and ambulance that transported a patient now confirmed to have the Ebola virus in Dallas has been isolated quote we have quarantined both them and the unit itself to make sure that

nothing was that nothing was there that can spread and we're going about our protocol about how to do that says the mayor so it's literally not far off from what we just said I mean it's not far off from exactly what you would expect people to do so immediately the people involved in the ambulance were quarantined but Alex might be right on a technicality what if they quarantined it but they didn't clean it unfortunately later in the article quote Dallas fire and

rescue officials said the ambulance has been decontaminated Alex is just making shit up to make it look like the people running point on this weren't doing their jobs there are plenty of other valid criticisms to make about how the whole thing was handled and we'll get into some of them that this isn't one of them now this is complete nonsense Alex is probably reading this on some dumb blog or something like that it's absolutely not true yeah there's that article and

there's more than just that article but that's just local Dallas reporting from the mayor reporting yep we did do that we took care of that that is from the 30th he's on air on October 5th saying they never did it man even if they didn't know that the guy had Ebola they still would have cleaned the fuck it or at least disinfo they would have sprayed something in there absolutely yeah unless they're trying to get it spread but also not that I am taking the mayor at his

word and just the mayor of the article in question Jerry Jones no that's the Cowboys he's the owner excuse me listen the article in question also had a picture of the ambulance in quarantine so I did also see it was actually the article it was just underneath the mosquito net it's all it's not that I'm just trusting blindly the mayor of Dallas over Alex Jones you can put police tape around any old ambulance and call it the real one sure so anyway that's a lot of nonsense

but also in that article it is important or I'm sorry not in that article in that clip that Alex was just talking he said that they gave him antibiotics when he came in to cure a virus and that's interesting how what does buy so when they say biotics would you say they are talking more about bacteria yes now if I don't know anything about that he's not affected by antibiotics but I'm going to go with if I remember biology correctly viruses cannot be killed by antibiotics

no no no obviously but Alex is misreporting this to yeah so on September 25th Thomas Duncan arrived at the Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital complaining of a fever abdominal pain dizziness and nausea he was spiking a fever at its highest at times of 103 degrees oh that's fucked up the staff ran a number of tests on him and couldn't figure out what was wrong they kept him overnight but they didn't diagnose him with a virus at all but they did give him broad spectrum

antibiotics then it could be some kind of an infection the initial symptoms of Ebola are super common like nausea dizziness abdominal pain and fever right those are things that like if you're doing a differential diagnosis that goes into so many different possible yeah the actual underlying condition it's not like the first symptom of Ebola is like your left hand turns in the exact opposite direction all the time so you're like oh that's Ebola Ebola's on your yeah there's no

there's not especially with the initial presentation of it which is one of the reasons why it's so dangerous right is that the initial presentation is so similar to benign conditions you've got the flu right yeah so it's not crazy to think that they wouldn't immediately jump in their brains to the suspicion that he has Ebola well that was on September 25th it wasn't an episode of House love House I know you did on September 28th he returned to the ER this time via ambulance

which at which point they put the pieces together and deemed too many Bola risk and contacted the CDC one of the important things to remember is the timeline of events the outbreak and Guinea happened in early 2014 first being declared on March 23rd with the condition spreading to Liberia and Sierra Leon shortly after Liberia would go on to be the hottest zone of events and initially the country was declared Ebola free by May now it would reappear and it wasn't fully taken care

of again like I said until January 2016 yeah but the fact that in May they declared Liberia Ebola free kind of made the crisis seem less pressing yeah so in September these nurses probably didn't have Ebola first and foremost on their minds you wish they would have but it also makes some sense why it would have slipped through the cracks the first time he shows up of course not however what happens after that is definitely deserving of some criticism I mentioned there's some criticism

okay here's some of it the nurses union has come out levied some complaints the protocol wasn't handled as well as it could have been ranging from not immediately isolating Duncan as soon as he was suspected of having Ebola right in the time of the test confirmation and the suspicion to not requiring staff to treat him in hazmat suits but instead just gloves masks and eye protection Duncan's test for Ebola comes back positive on September 30th and the day before a nurse named

Nina Pham treated him without any protective gear oh no she and Amber Joy Vincent another nurse who treated Duncan would end up testing positive for Ebola of course thankfully they survived and did not end up spreading it to anybody else good but it's a really that right there is a really great place to start your criticisms yeah of this situation because there are very valid criticisms about the way that this hospital handled everything but the ones that Alex chooses to make are not

true right and also paint the picture that he wants it to be if you suspect somebody of having Ebola you don't let a nurse go in with no protection at all mm-hmm yeah that's a terrible idea at the very least at the very least I can't imagine anybody directed Nina Pham to go in there without any protection totally it wasn't like the attending physician was like hey get in there without any protection it will let you have a good old day totally because even if she and she did but even if like

she survives that's a lawsuit for sure yeah you you especially since the nurses have a pretty good union yeah like that would absolutely be a lawsuit it seems like it seems like some failures institutionally in this particular hospital right definitely happen and just failures of oversight and and that kind of thing not not any kind of malicious and absolutely yeah and a lot of it probably could be easily traced back to the idea that most of these people involved probably never

imagined a scenario where Ebola was in the United States who would have Ebola yeah yeah yeah yeah it's pretty crazy so I want to say one thing also here that is just to be perfectly fair to Alex some of this information that I'm talking about does happen after this episode so the this is on October 5th and Pham doesn't end up testing positive for Ebola until what is October 12th that's when she tests positive and then the third miss Vincent isn't until October 15th so

he doesn't know any of these things which are the actual decent criticisms of the hospital system right like that but I also stand behind the idea that it would only make his rhetoric worse if he didn't know them yeah yeah and having the and it's safe to assume he wouldn't give a fuck and it wouldn't change his narrative at all you wouldn't he wouldn't deal with it in any more realistic way exactly but I just want to give that caveat that he has no reason to know of

course all that stuff being as it's in the future although he does say he's a psychic once again inexplicably we are as fair as humanly possible well I want our listeners to their fucking idiot but I want them to understand the timeline of something I don't want to put unnecessary no for sure for shit in anyone's mind totally get it so all this is to say that like the ambulance was quarantine the people who doubt with him were quarantined and checked and kept track of the

he wasn't give they didn't say he had a virus but he was given broad spectrum antibiotics because they couldn't figure out what he had and that is kind of a catch all which is an unfortunate part of our medical system that that's how we're going to be a biotic resistant things right and we'll deal with that another day if 90% of cases are solved or or at least treatable by doing this your first instinct is going to be let's do the thing that helps 9 out of 10 people not

like on the off chance it might be a bolo we're going to do this almost never hurts people yeah except for in the long run when the resistance right right yeah so all this is is a bunch of bullshit by and large and so here's Alex's take on the bigger picture. I want to make this statement very very clear. They either souped up this Ebola and weaponize it which we know has been done before that's that's been on Nova on PBS and allowed to be released or or it's naturally mutated

to incubate longer and to be more powerful and they're openly opening the door to let it happen either way the people running our federal government are complicit in what's already happened and what is unfortunately going to unfold now how does MSNBC respond how the NRA is making the Ebola crisis worse they're actually blaming gun owners that's like blaming the moon made of cheese. I don't understand that similarly there what what what would you blame the moon made of cheese.

I would like to ignore everything else you said because it's just Obama's fault which you predicted at the top of the so the NRA is making the Ebola crisis worse is the headline so Alex says that what that means is they're blaming gun owners yes and that not specifically the NRA they're blaming all gun owners right that's the way he's presenting yes we'll get to the truth eventually but the way he's presenting it is they're blaming gun owners for making the

Ebola crisis worse which is similar to blaming the moon made of cheese. I don't I think he had more to say but he got caught off by a hard break so or he just that's him stepping on a rake that that's him that's him starting a sentence like fuck I got nowhere to go as I said the moon cheese I don't fucking know so so does he mean that it's similar so blaming the NRA is similar to blaming the moon made of cheese as opposed to blaming just the moon for Ebola you're blaming the

moon made of cheese for that's interesting which is a second level of ridiculousness I would say that it's equally ridiculous to blame the moon or the moon that he's made out of cheese for Ebola that I don't think that's what he was saying I think he was trying to make some simile about I don't fucking know I don't know I don't know I don't understand this is one of these trademark moments of Alex Jones or it's like I wish I could have talked to him during the break yeah what were you

were you trying to say there what what if I ask him now there's no way he remembers what he intended to say absolutely I want to know I don't know if he would remember what he intended to say immediately following probably not probably not he's got to tell his kids he can't go fishing again but he's blaming the moon made of cheese for it listen kids I know you want to catch some trout but it's like the moon made of cheese made of cheese kept me away do you think what he's

talking to his kids on the phone he has hard breaks and he has to get to I definitely thinks that he plays the highway man that's coming in when he calls them ring back to the ring back to yeah yeah whenever whenever it's time to get off the phone whenever it's time to get off the phone with his kids it's that that block rockin beat block rockin beats of course or that bow bow it's that sorry kids got to go bow bow so there's a guy Thomas Frieden who's the head of the CDC at

this point and he came out and made some comments about how we talked about this already a little bit the idea that these bands don't work yeah that sort of thing so he explains that closing borders isn't really a viable option Alex plays the clip of him saying that yeah and then I would just describe Alex's response as like this guy's an asshole. Let's go to the CDC director saying we can't control the border yet because there is no more we know that as long as

the outbreak of smolders in Africa as long as it's in Africa we're potentially at risk because even if we tried to close the border it wouldn't work people have a right to return people transiting through could come in and it would backfire because by isolating these countries it'll make it harder to help them it'll spread more there and we'd be more likely to be exposed here. But he had a nice calm MPR voice very convincing loving little

lies with his hair all combed kids by the way take your shots. We hear it the new world love you and all we want is for you to get healthy. That's why the cancer rates and everything else are off the charts. So just take your shots get rid of those brain cells. Mercury's good for you. The CDC said so remember you said Mercury's good.

It's all true. They love you. I love I'm sure Moby is thrilled that his music is playing over that message. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So what he's talking about there at the end. I'm sorry you at your house.

I'm just like I know we've been doing this for so long but can he even imagine people at the CDC actually being like we want your kids to be healthy like with no with no caveats with no like it like it's literally the job of the CDC to want your kids to be healthy and he can't for a second imagine that that is real like not even for one moment. Well these people work at a center. It's all about controlling diseases center for disease

freedom. I believe well sovereign diseases. Of course. I don't know. Yeah. No, he of course not. He thinks it's all super evil and what he's talking about there at the end there that idea of like they're saying that

Mercury is good. It's the idea there was a mercury based preservative called somerosol that was in vaccines and that was one of the things that was targeted specifically about the idea that it caused people to be on the autism right right and it's all a a scientific. It's all completely refuted by studies as all that's what he's talking about there that idea of like all these people

love you so much get rid of brain cells with this mercury they love giving you mercury also what I really the same thing is right actual mercury right right but be that as it may like what is he one so okay so his criticism is we have an NPR voice on there which I would like it if my CDC head didn't come out and say there would be on it would not inspire confidence. No, no, no, no.

So is that what he wants? I guess so. Yeah, I guess he wants people who have a little bit of a country twang to them or something like that. Well now you know these people from these other countries they're going to come in here they're going to give us all this kind of a bowl and we got to close the borders for these on me.

Whatever doesn't sound like snobby liberals or whatever that that's what he's responding to it's like what you're didn't reasoned it what radio liberals like to listen to I fucking hate that sound. Yeah, that speech pattern. Whatever just hates vocal fry Dan could be anyway in this next clip we just see you see like like I already told you 28,600 total cases over the entire two year span of this outbreak

again and amazing it did did not get outside of Dallas at least this this instance of it. This is just Alex sensationalizing and being incredibly irresponsible to try and create the picture that things are way worse than they are. Well here in Dallas, Texas we really love to talk to you but if it's spreading you know it's already gotten outside Dallas sorry I flew back from Liberia on board an aircraft full of

hundreds of people and there are folks with a mola by the hundreds of thousands in Africa now jumping on aircraft as well but they can't go to France they can't go to Germany they can't go to England they can't go to the United Arab Emirates they can't go a whole bunch of places but you know where they can come they can come right here to America because well up is down and down is up that's irresponsible but I want to talk more about why is he playing legs so loud

like that seems a little louder than a lot of his regular like coming back from break music and it just lingers what did he look dude anytime anybody plays easy top I got problems I have got problems that is a bad band because beard jealousy it's not the beard jealousy so much I don't like the idea of people making Beards novelties certainly I don't like like in college is a civil rights issue in college I would always get like people would every goddamn year people would send

me these updates about the beard and mustache championships and like get the fuck out of here oh to you specifically because they're like this would this would interest you of course you bearded man right and so I don't like that I certainly don't like the Beards that I'm seeing in ZZ top but that's not my primary problem my primary problem is their songs are fucking terrible oh I realize I realized they're like I 100% pulled that clip because I think it's

irresponsible sensationalism but I also pulled that clip because to be angry at ZZ top yeah I really hate that I also think he played it too loud it really was like most of his music tapers off as soon as he starts talking that was loud as fuck I am endlessly fascinated by where your boundaries are drawn with music so Jordan you know I think I think you've got pretty decent of an idea about what Alex's narrative about this whole thing is like the idea of all of us behind

it obviously is blaming Obama and the federal government right right saying it was an intentional blibby blue but in this next clip he sort of makes the finer points of it clear what he thinks is going on the globalist want to basically use this crisis to bring in a medical tyranny a forced inoculation program with the Billa Melinda Gates Foundation Monsanto created a bowl of vaccine they're set to roll out guarantee you that's why bare minimum they've turned off the

default it's like not closing a hatch on the submarine when you when you submerge it's a no-brainer or not pressurizing a jumbo jet he doesn't really make it clear what he's saying there about these like not closing the hatch and stuff like that he's not shutting down travel from all of these places the only reason I clarify is not because I didn't think that you or the listeners did it's because when I first listened to it I felt like he's not being clear at all I got

you I got you a 777 before you take off from Houston International to fly to London England that they're turning off all the defaults because the public 777 more like 187 absolutely brain dead I mean is America done so his take on this whole thing generally speaking is the idea that this is a false flag ish ish course ish soft launch for the global epidemic ish yeah dip toe dip yeah anything in case it's not or whatever you can sort of walk it back but the idea is that the global

scientists are doing this they're either have created this or are letting this happen in order to get us all mandatory vaccinated right in a medical tyranny with the Ebola vaccine that Monsanto and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation are working together to enforce upon us I don't want to talk about whether or not Monsanto creates vaccine no no no I don't even want to talk about that give me any situation where Monsanto and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation

came up I can't give you one but I can say that a vaccine for Ebola did not come out of this but can you 2016 there have been a couple like as as recently as 2016 I'm not sure if there has been progress on this but a couple of vaccines that had been in phase one and phase two had come through phase three very promising by the FDA I'm not sure I'm not sure I was trying to look into it and I can't fully understand I was reading a bunch of documents and I fucking understand right

but after a bunch of testing there are a couple of vaccines in 2016 that were shown to be pretty effective yeah in the range of 70 to 100% effective at being a vaccine against Ebola which is a wide range 70 to 100% is a pretty wide range but it's better than pretty good or zero pretty good yeah I from from what I could tell it didn't seem like it was on the market of current day yeah I don't want to stand behind that in case it is but right no matter what the case whether

there is one now that is effective and on the market and approved and all that stuff yeah it doesn't really matter because you know this entire segment of our history this entire outbreak of Ebola in West Africa didn't end up precipitating that now like it didn't end up leading to a crisis that required mandatory vaccination for Ebola and forcing through of this vaccine that the global is just going to use to kill men I guess I don't know yeah but like

so this narrative is is umpus bumpus it's nonsense it is umpus bumpus thank you I agree so you've been probably been sitting there Jordan you've probably been thinking what have I been thinking that NRA tell me what I've been thinking I wonder what that NRA story was all about I would I'm going to go with here's my here's my prediction on what the NRA story is about um I want to tell you before you make this prediction I'm excited to hear it yeah but you're going to be

wrong okay I'm going to give I'm going to give this one ago alright so the NRA is making the Ebola crisis work well the the Ebola crisis worse I'm going to go with rampant anti vaccination anti medicine anti all of that stuff propaganda instincts it's good instincts but no you're wrong there's no way you could predict what this is going to actually be about they have been shooting down bees and bees protect against Ebola and the NRA has a pro shoot down bees policy you know I

hate bees much like I hate ZZ top but we're going to get you a twenty two go out there and start shooting bees get a bump stock and go fucking just take out bees so Jordan I would say that you're wrong um you have said that so many times you're wrong about this NRA story but like I said at the beginning there's no way you could predict this it's a really good point and Alex has not read this article and this is a psychological tactic called gaslighting with more sophisticated

where they just scramble everything where no one even knows what's going on it's over the top you don't you don't even know what gaslighting is making the Ebola crisis worse by crystal ball I want to pause there real quick that is her real name the one of the oh oh it's a name okay I swear to God with a K immediately was like okay we're getting into some psychic shed this is going to get wild that is a real person's name thank you yeah so much because it's so hard to destroyed

me yeah and and Thompson what about and I want to say the NRA is the problem that Americans own guns and don't even give a reason it's just it's bizarre they don't even give a reason it's fucking bizarre that sound right I'm going to go with two people together authoring a study crystal ball and Emma Thompson are not going to get Thompson are not just going to say something and then not give a reason well you know MSNBC it's just basically like some guys blog you know yeah they

just say shit it's like 9 11 blogger which Alex seems to 100% a reliable source for a news yeah yeah so Alex is peddling this story about how the NRA is making the Ebola crisis worse but refuses to even talk about what is in the article preferring instead to just say things like they don't even make a point it's bizarre that's what he just said they don't even make a point if true it is bizarre it would be bizarre yeah it would be bizarre this is a clear instance of either

willful deceit because he knows his listeners will hear the headline and think it's some kind of dumb liberal bullshit or he hasn't read it himself which I think is probably the case yeah the reason these writers are suggesting that the NRA is responsible for making the crisis worse goes like this experts and researchers have examined the US infrastructure and found that there is little to no reason for people to worry about a breakout of Ebola happening here because of

containment processes that we have because of sanitation because of those sorts of things it just is on it's unlikely like even if people do end up showing up here which did happen yeah and the proof of the pudding is in the eating it didn't end up becoming a pandemic right right because against all odds we have a solid infrastructure in place in order to combat this before it becomes which a lot of countries don't which is why it becomes a huge problem which is also

why isolating those countries is though yes bingo bongo yeah so that is what a lot of experts say however they're having a hard time conveying that message to the public particularly with the backdrop of a media running around being sensational trying to make people worried about an outbreak and how it's imminent historically the job of conveying important health information like this and reassuring the population that these fears that are being sold on air unfounded fell

to the surgeon general that is one of the main roles of the position of the surgeon general however in 2014 when the Ebola crisis is heating up we didn't have a surgeon general and hadn't for about a year in November 2013 Obama nominated Dr. Vivek Murthy for the post but his domination had been held hostage by the Republican Health Senate I gone the reason I remember that he believed that guns were a public health crisis and thus the NRA lobbied strongly against his

nomination receiving even a vote with Rand Paul taking a particularly forefront role in making sure his nomination didn't move forward at all I totally remember this in a time of public anxiety about a potential outbreak we didn't have a top doctor in office and literally the only reason is that he believed that guns led to health problems and the NRA found that position unacceptable the NRA didn't bring Ebola in or anything like that but no matter how you slice this by

depriving the country of a surgeon general because of their lobbying in Congress through the Republican Party they absolutely made the Ebola crisis worse it led to people being able to spread much more propaganda than they would have otherwise and the article makes perfect sense that makes perfect sense yes I that the NRA made the Ebola crisis worse I'd never thought about that I'd never heard that article before no but Alex's attack on it made me read it and I say

oh good call I call crystal ball yep I would never as you correctly pointed out I would never have guessed that in retrospect now that I remember that whole situation it makes perfect great argument crystal ball and and Thompson you just fucking nailed it it's another instance of corporate money having unintended consequences that are almost universally now come on Citizens United was great so in this next clip Alex just talks about how the globalists want this

to happen I guess I don't know this is just in being dumb and it just illustrates they can't and they won't protect you and for some reason they want Ebola to break out in this country and that's why I'm opening the phones up I want to know from you out there in this segment right through into the second hour today why do you think this is happening so that's right he still hasn't opened up the phones that it doesn't matter 48 minutes give or take yeah he doesn't want

the audience to actually say anything he wants to give his point and then after he has he knows the audience will repeat it back to him yeah that's the game yeah so I just want to give you a little bit of fun trivia about the Ebola outbreak in 2014 in October 2014 Alex Jones guest and associate Larry claim and filed the lawsuit against President Obama over quote providing material support and aid to international terrorism and facilitating terrorism Larry believed that

Obama intentionally brought Ebola into the country and his reasoning about this is not good Larry said Obama's reason for bringing Ebola in was that quote Obama has favored his African brothers over the rest of the boy oh boy oh by allowing them free entry into this country Nope and quote relegating whites and others not black or Muslim to the back of the bus Nope what? What? Which has become an invidious form of reverse discrimination? He also said quote as has been true throughout

Obama's illegitimate presidency as all credible evidence suggests he was born in Kenya and is neither a natural born citizen eligible to president nor has been naturalized as a citizen to even have the right to remain here we see the the deportation petition I had recently filed regret regrettably our Muslim commander-in-chief has favored his own creed over the rest of us I know you're responding poorly to that Jordan but don't worry Larry isn't crazy. He's very restrained.

No he's absolutely fucking insane. He's very restrained. He's a fucking lunatic. He's what? He's very restrained saying quote I do not advocate violence and I want Obama to be taken alive and deported. What? Taken alive. Taken alive. That's his quote. Wow I don't want this guy to be taken alive how about that? He wants to be he wants to be taken alive and pay for his inadequacies under the rule of law. So this lawsuit that Larry

Clayman put into court is an embarrassing public spectacle of racism got thrown out of court and he continued to be a racist embarrassment for years to come as a guest on Alex Jones's show where we found him creating the Dennis Montgomery information with Joe Arpaio and the members of the cold case squad in Maricopa County. He is one of these weird through lines that nobody knows about but Larry Clayman was a very huge part of this anti-Obama sentiment. Yeah. That's crazy. It's nuts.

I feel like we're some of those some of those words in those quotes are things that are like I mean I know you want to say that. Yeah you're a lawyer. How did you not you should not have you not clean that up. Yeah like the idea that he's saying quote relegating whites and others who are not black and Muslims to the back of the bus like the I know you think that's a great turn of phrase probably but like how do you not clean that up. So in this next clip I've been sort of

saying I think I overtly said earlier that Alex is saying that this Ebola outbreak is a false flag. Yes. And I wasn't just talking shit. He actually believes that a false flag a staged event whether they souped up the Ebola or not and so OK there you go. Alex says this is a false flag. Of course it is and that is not surprising but one of the things I always want to clearly delineate and make a point of is the idea that whatever Alex says is mirrored by his callers. So

about a half hour after he says that he gets a caller Monique in Quebec Canada. Thanks for calling. Go ahead. Hi Alex. Hi Alex. I think this is a false flag and I'm sure that I tend to believe like Robert David still when he was on your show on September 18. He said that the next big false flag will be a simulated Ebola attack. So she thinks it's a false flag and cool whatever in that explanation for why she thinks it's a false flag. She's like Robert David Steel was on your

show and said so Eagle Eared listeners will remember that Robert David Steel was the guy who was on who said that children were being kidnapped and taken to Mars bases and Alex had to correct the white papers have made it true. Alex had to disown him because of how much embarrassment came to him and everyone's like Alex thinks people are on Mars bases. I didn't say that. The media lies about me. They say that I think the kids are on Mars bases. It's because of Robert David

Steel who is being brought up in 2014 as the person who predicted that the whole thing. Yeah. Now I want to say I do want to give it to Monique in a very short period of time. She made me very interested in her backstory. So I'm all in on Monique. I want to know what's up with Monique just because she has an accent. She's from Canada and because she thinks it's a false flag. No no no no no she's got she's just got a she's got just she's got a way about her that makes me want to know

how is it how is it that you came back to how is it that you came to this. I want to know the backstory. I gotta be honest no matter what research I can do I don't think I can solve that for you. Okay. But what I can I need you to do a deep dive into Monique and then of course Lauren from from Ohio. So I Google Lauren Ohio Lauren and then Monique Canada Monique in Canada. Yes. I think you I think you do this. I will get back to you on that. Okay. Take your time. But for now Robert David

Steel was on the show on September 18th as she as Monique said there. Yes. Saying there will be a false flag using Ebola as the cover or whatever. If you remember earlier I said that it wasn't surprising that doctors and nurses weren't thinking too much about Ebola in mid September Monique was but propaganda communities are completely different in the interest of total fairness. I should come clean and say that I got completely swept up in this Ebola propaganda. Not that

Obama was causing it or here to he's trying to bring it here into the country or any of that kind of shit. But I really bought into the doom and gloom worst case scenario disaster porn type of stuff in 2014. You did. I absolutely. Okay. Okay. And I can tell you from personal experience there had been a ton of sustained and long running campaigns going to make people scared that it was going airborne. Ebola was going to go airborne. All that was going to take was a slight

tweak of Ebola to make it breathable and then it was going to take America by storm. Right. I suspect a lot of these messages were being heavily promoted by people with interest in survival food guns gold all the sort of businesses that thrive on the panic of the immediate collapse. But at the time it felt like a like a consistent bombardment of stories about how this was just getting worse. I trafficked in conspiracy blogs and message boards and stuff like that

around 2014. Yeah. And I was I was sensible to a point like the point where I wasn't buying into the Rothschilds run the world. But this sort of story did get to me like I remember this. I was working at a shitty job. I had nothing to do. I was at this insurance company and like oh my God this is fucking terrifying and I rationalized it in my head. I was reading these terrible things that I didn't ever find like where are they sourcing their information from. Yeah.

So I read a blog and it's about like there are factual pieces of it like oh my God it started in Guinea and now it's in Sierra Leone. Now it's in Liberia. Right. It's heating up in Liberia. It's and every like these blogs would just have these all caps headlines of like it's now it's it's coming it's coming. It's a thing that I have never really considered but it is like I if you're in the stock market and and if you're an investor and all of a sudden Apple's fucking revenue

earnings come out and it's higher than expected and you're like holy shit I own this amount of stock and Apple that's going to fly up like for these survivalist guys any time this kind of global pandemic narrative comes up they have to be like holy shit we're going to make a shit ton of money we better ride this out because it's not real. And when Ebola like it doesn't pop up that often. No but when it does it's fucking terrifying because the reality of having Ebola in a

circumstance where you are in well quite frankly Africa it's a brutal fucking experience. Yeah. And so it's one of the most terrifying things and then you have the idea of that spreading worldwide and all that it's the perfect thing to make content out of right and the fact that it's from Africa brings in that so much so much of that ingrained cultural fear where it's like when you talk about oh we have bees and then we have Africanized bees we have killer bees they're

coming out of this place that's so foreign and so savage but it's so much worse than if it was about outbreak in Texas that works on some levels from my perspective because I'm not saying I'm not saying from you say that yeah but from my perspective it just seemed like this makes sense because I was reading dumb resources and I didn't understand it like you gotta figure out this blog that you're reading where are they getting their information from right follow the the chain of

information and see if any of this means anything going to the second page of Google is never a good it is never going to happen for most people I got deeply caught up in this this Ebola paranoia at that point they were just every time there was a new possible case somewhere it would be a new blog post new message board threads of all these like this it's coming everywhere all this is to say that there there was a massive propaganda conspiracy World Campaign going on well before

Thomas Duncan ever arrived in the United States what I'm getting at is that it's not meaningful in any way that Robert David Steele came on Alex's show and said anything like they're going to use Ebola as a false flag yeah on September 18th yeah it was actually a really shrewd choice on his part I think based on the facts on the ground in August the World Health Organization declared the continuing epidemic a public health emergency of international concern the technical

designation on their point in August so that's a month before Robert David Steele on Alex's show and said any of those sorts of things and when they made that announcement that came just a little bit after the August 5th announcement that there was a confirmed case in Spain a man who would end up dying a week later from the Ebola yeah he had yeah you already had someone in a country that was outside of Africa where the outbreak started but he was he was an aid worker who had been

in Africa of course and so you have this already it is penetrated to the other yeah it's outside of that yeah yeah yeah so the spread has begun everything that Robert David Steele is doing on Alex's show on September 18th doesn't mean anything because a month before this the World Health Organization has already been like hey guys everybody everybody be careful with this this is take this seriously yeah yeah and simultaneously there had already been an instance of it

outside of Africa it is weird how a an organization making a perfectly reasonable response to a massive disease to a really dangerous disease early on to a dangerous disease that hasn't really spread that much early on and saying this is something we need to be aware of that early on I'm not it was it was made because no one paid attention to it or it had been going on in West Africa for a bit by that point but what I mean is going on in so far as to say a less than a hundred thousand

people do you know what I mean always was less than exactly instead of waiting until it was literally a global pandemic right they waited until it was like this is a known issue we're going to issue a warning early on enough to stop it but because we did it early on enough people are going to run wild with this ship well they have real strict criteria of what what what constitutes a crisis that the world needs to be worried about right and so what they did that they did

that in August 2014 but like in terms of the full story here the first case the first patient was in December 2013 but just didn't matter it didn't it didn't take it took a while for it to become like like how diseases it took three to four months after that for it to become like in West Africa that people took took real specific in March but the bigger point of this is that Robert David Steele has been a very multifaceted player and Alex Jones' propaganda over the

years he's I don't think that we recognize this at all in 2009 we haven't heard him back in 2009 but we've heard callers mention him right about how you talk to him on some show a year ago so in 2008 and right Jones's world we've yet to see an actual appearance from it we now jump into randomly 2014 Robert David Steele is there saying that Ebola is going to be an outbreak that's used as a false flag which I just think is like he's pretty clever it's not I don't think

it's evidence in any way that it's a false flag I think he just like he's better than the average bear in terms of like just look at venting his no looking at the looking at the actual world that exists and figuring out the best way to lie about it okay I think he's pretty good at that I don't think he's bad I mean his longevity is evidence enough that he he's got some kind of angle that works I mean last until like what late 2016 when the Mars colony thing happened

like yeah that was that was an overreach on his part yeah that was like a that was like a heat check that was like Steph Curry making two threes in a row and then being like how about 45 feet out I don't know I think Robert David Steele is a fucking interesting person that might I might need to look a ton more into him he's also a big Bitcoin booster I kind of think he's more of a survivor than anything else I see I see him as like a I'm gonna I'm gonna ride these

wins and then I'm gonna change these wins when I need to change these wins I suspect you're wrong but we'll see all right we will see we'll see I might look into him a lot more but Alex in this next clip has some thoughts about how the globalists have changed Ebola that's a shock Ebola used to gestate or incubate over three or four days now it's 21 22 days you can spread it it's spreading much worse it's it is a real pandemic now this narrative was flying

all over the place in in the blogs and stuff like that but what this is all bullshit Alex is pretending the incubation period for Ebola has changed in some way like it used to be two days and now it's 20 that's all nonsense the incubation period has always been a range it's historically been 2 to 21 days with most cases being within the 8 to 10 day range when symptoms manifest yeah it's a matter of statistical analysis it's it's it's it's standard deviations like the

like one standard deviation is 8 to 10 days 2 is 2 to 21 or whatever right however however it actually works out right and then Nate Silver would have a position on it generally speaking after three weeks you're at the point where it's like if you haven't shown the symptoms you probably don't have right it would be like 0.3% chance you do right so Alex is Alex is pretending that it's always been two to three days now because it's always been known that it was

because the globalist changed it now it's 20 they've made the gestation longer because that serves the purpose of his arguments about they want people to fly into the country right because they're not exhibiting symptoms exactly and then they get into the country because there's a longer incubation period they're not showing symptoms I've been in the country I've been in the country two weeks it's going to take another week before I start really noticing that I have

a total cool and in that period of time I've already infected 50 people out of nowhere everyone's dead exactly that sort of thing zombies again he wants the CDC head to come out and be like the crazy fucking thing about this is were anyone to actually want to do this it would be so easy like any of the people that he imagines that have the control that he thinks yeah are there there's so many diseases that would be worse and easier transmitted than Ebola that they could just

fucking do this yeah there could be like a smallpox outbreak somewhere like it would be so easy and it does kind of feel like one of the problem on sense one of the problems with the way that underline problem it's one of the scares one of the scary parts of the way that we control diseases is that it does kind of feel like at any point in time some random scientists working in the CDC could just like sneak away a vial of smallpox and like smash it on the ground that's

exactly what happened with Larry I like a hundred million people die that's what happened with anthrax anthrax mailer Larry Ivan right the case after 9 11 that Alex also lies about yeah of course go read that that report if you want to actually happen there break I was nuts and an abuser he was a manipulative fucking asshole when we talked about that guy I was bummed yeah yeah so we have one more clip here Alex gets to the end of the show he's been making fine points I

say facetiously he's been doing his best to present this idea that Obama is doing this the federal government is in charge of not letting planes come in not taking into account the idea that studies had been done and like these studies that I'm talking about a lot of them had been done before this outbreak ever happened rare the only one that hadn't is the one about this outbreak that showed that any kind of sequestering wasn't affected right right I think we can

agree with Alex when he does say that Rick Perry is a piece of shit that fine but he also was measured about that that's true he wasn't letting Perry off the hook right but he was also being like come on I don't like seeing Alex like that because end game literally ends with him with a bullhorn outside Perry's home he's outside Rick Perry's home yelling at him because he went to Bilderberg so I don't let him ever giving him a chance legitimately I do not remember

that on account of watching end game and that being the end the closing shot yeah Alex as lights go dark outside Rick Perry's house screaming into a bullhorn yep I had lost my mind and then and then and then three and a half hours before that Rick Perry you suck I do want that violin to be our sting now yeah should be our theme song yeah yeah so we got one more clip in that it's a fucking disaster of a fake caller yeah so one of the things that's really like a hallmark

of Alex Jones's show is that he has a lot of callers because they know they're anonymous and they're just calling in they often say that like I work in intelligence we saw this with Zach yeah his caller that he kept being all having on and mysteriously gone now crazy what what is that go what are we just not that narrative oh come on he's at norcom hey he's probably run away to Morocco again that's a smart idea on his phone knows why hasn't stone left the country anyways

a lot of these callers that call in give themselves credentials in order to make Alex sort of losing to them right but in doing so what I've noticed is they only do that to mirror Alex's narratives back to him in a way that then he can be like I talk to this guy who's an insider right knows and I am fucking right there's an there's an echo chamber there where the audience understands that they can elevate his narratives by trolling him positively like in a way that

supports what he's doing right and I think that this caller is a perfect representative of that insider from FEMA region 6 I'm in former Texas that's in FEMA region 6 you in in FEMA region 6 and former state text I work for the regional agency in formerly known as Ben Antonio, Texas. I one of my friends is public health emergency planning. The reason I know the Ebola outbreak is being conducted on purpose is it violates all protocols. I used to be involved

in the Hurricane Katrina and Rita response of the effect what what what violates protocols planning for smallpox outbreak in Bear County. The proper response would be the National Guard would seal off Bear County law enforcement and emergency services would redirect the population to all hospitals, churches and other government agencies where they would be screened. If they were sick, they would be isolated at a former military base until the sickness had passed or

they died. Everyone else would be forcibly vaccinated. There would be no exceptions and no travel in and out of Bear County. So the fact that they're allowing people to travel into the United States and they are not locking down the city of Dallas tells me this is by design. That guy was reading off a script. Yeah, I was 100% going to say that there's no way that he is extemporaneously speaking. No, no, that was 100%. He's reading a an essay that

he has written this quote unquote insider is full of shit. He clearly doesn't know what the protocol is in a situation like this and what he's describing. I'm pretty sure it's calling the National Guard have them screen everybody isolate people in churches and hospitals, right? Because why not? And then and then till they die. Yeah, what he's describing is literally Alex Jones's worst nightmare come true in terms of the federal government coming in locking

down a city and screening all the citizens at military bases and churches that they have requisitioned and that's how you know it's real. In reality, this idea comes from movies and it doesn't really at all reflect what professionals actually do. The last time in America, there was a large scale quarantine or isolation. It was just Japanese 19 for being Japanese. No, no, that was internment. The last time there was a large scale quarantine was 1918 to 19 when

the Spanish flu broke out. No public health crisis since then and there have been many plenty of them have been responded to by mass quarantine and there's a good reason why multiple reasons why for one, it doesn't work most basically a large scale quarantine will almost certainly trigger a mass panic that could lead to all manner of unintended consequences ranging from vigilante ism to looting. Second, that panic in people who see themselves as not sick

often leads to people concocting plans to break the quarantine. No one wants to stay in the stay in the place where the sickness is even if they know that leaving puts others at risk. It's part of the human survival impulse probably least importantly, a large scale quarantine is a huge economic disrupt disruption. Disruption whatever city your quarantine and effectively gets taken out of the larger economy and it's possible that billions could be lost on

top of whatever it would cost you to just do the quarantine the first place. Beyond that only 10 states have laws in place that would allow people who have jobs that are subject to a quarantine to keep their jobs based on being subject to a quarantine. I'm going to say Texas is one of those. I'm not sure. I don't have a list of all I feel like it's not okay. There's only 10 places that are like if there's a quarantine you don't have to come to work. We can not fire you for that.

All right. 10 out of 50. I'm not even gonna go with states. I'm just gonna say that of those 10 states one of them is just Frankfurt, Kentucky. Sure. I know for sure that they would do that if they could. Wait, is it Ron Paul from Kentucky or Rand Paul from Kentucky? Ron from Texas. Rand from Kentucky. I don't know. Look, the the issue is that like this doesn't work that this idea what what he's putting out into the world this fake insider. He's putting out the idea of like quarantining a

city. It doesn't work because what you do then is you end up like just imagine in your head. You're not a dumb person. Imagine what you lose then. He's talking about quarantining Dallas, Texas. It's a nonsensical proposition. The idea that you were ever going to be able to create a like an actual build a wall and build a wall is a fun, fun thing for people to get out. Build a wall. Build a wall. It is fine. Build a wall, but it is the same instinct here. Yeah, this idea

that you're ever going to be able to cloister this city where there is a disease there or whatever an idea. What is smart about quarantine as a rule is as small as possible. So if you have someone who is you have strong suspicion has the condition quarantine that person in a hospital, quarantine the house in terms of don't let other people go in there. Yeah, quarantine. You don't have to clean the entire house. What what what good is that going to do you if no one goes in? It

doesn't help you. So I mean, that was the last clip. Jordan, we have this insider who calls in and he's clearly full of shit. Like he's not an insider. Absolutely not. He's someone who's masquerading. He's someone who's one of Alex Jones's callers who is trying to create 110 pound pimple covered anarchist. He's trying to create the perception of himself as an authority figure to reinforce Alex Jones's narratives that he has heard by listening to Alex and to get into stolen

authority. Maybe but anonymous in many ways like he doesn't get feels good. He was on it. He's on a nationally syndicated radio network sounding like he was so fucking cool. I'm sure I'm trying to get laid off of it. I'm sure you got a charge out of that but also you can't really use that to help it like socially. You can't go to the bar and everyone's like hello Colonel or whatever like right, right. You know, there's still some like it's only for you but it's also for Alex. Yeah, it's

the kind of like donation in kind that Alex's audience often gives to him. Yeah, this idea of like they're gonna lie in order to bolster Alex's narratives for him on the show. You make me feel important. So I'm going to make your narrative feel important as well. It's it's important for both of us and so I'm gonna I'm going to you need someone to lie to make this make sense. So I'm going to do it for you. Yeah, which is interesting. I'm very fascinated by that and I'm not saying

that just because I disagree with this guy. I'm saying this because what he's saying makes no sense. The idea of like quarantining a city as large as Dallas or even like he's saying he's from Bayer County which is it's it's spelled Bexar but it's pronounced Bayer because Texas is weird. Refuse. Goodbye. But that also by Bayer County. You're not allowed. That's not a small county. That includes San Antonio. So like it's the idea that like where I come from like if he had been

some guy in the tiny county and it'd been like where I come from it's like we closed down everything. It's like your population is 200 maybe I think that's ineffective but maybe that would be what you did. Right. Right. Maybe statistically maybe you could keep 200 people under control maybe you you put that into 2000 people one is going to get out way more than that and yes I know I know but like at minimum one is going to get and then that take that to order to a million people.

Yeah. It's nonsensical. So my my I would like to say thank you to George Soros Junior for suggesting this. Thank you very much. It's interesting if for no other reason that I learned about Ellis Island. I appreciate it. So look if I can make this episode 90 way I would say Walt happy birthday. You're the best. You is the summation of our episode. Yeah. That's all I've been trying to say. That's all we've been the entire episode

this whole entirely been one happy birthday. It's you want you son of a bitch. Well you're one of the best and and this is a lot of fun. I do enjoy this. I enjoy dipping toes into the past out of context. Yeah. Because we're not out of context. We know a lot about Alex Jones and so any day that we check in we can kind of understand what he's talking about. Yeah. If we had done this episode maybe two years ago it would have been like whoa fucked up stuff. Yeah. Because

we have an understanding of him we can contextualize all these Ebola narratives. Yeah. I'm glad that we're doing this this now as opposed to earlier. Right. And that might be my way of deflecting from the idea that there are a number of time travel requests that we haven't done and I'm only trying to say that they're going to be better because we put them off and thank you all always if you remind me again about needing to do if you have sent me a time travel request it can't hurt

to remind me again. I'm not going to take it personally. I have one minor quibble. Oh OK. One minor quibble and this is just language based. When you say we know a lot about Alex Jones I would prefer if you said we know an unfortunate amount about Alex. It is unfortunate because it is a you know an unfortunate amount. You know an abusive. Yeah. I know a life destroying about about I know enough about Alex Jones that I can't do anything else with my life. I literally can't. Do

you know who didn't kill anybody damn somebody who you're telling me about a guy who never killed anybody never killed anybody. Right. Do you know what he didn't have a website. Do you know what we have. We do have a website. We do have a website. What's our website. Do you know what the guy who I'm specifically thinking of who didn't kill anybody didn't have a Twitter account. Do we have one. This could be disappointing at the end of this if it turns out he did have

a website but we it's knowledge underscore fight. Do you know who didn't have a Facebook account or a group on Facebook called go home and tell your mother we're on Facebook. Do you know who didn't kill anybody who also cannot be found on iTunes. I don't know your this is a mysterious thing. The Greek God Mithras Mithras never killed anybody who died and three days later came back to life and there are no similarities between Christian iconography at all. Are you sure Mithras

never killed anybody or inspired by death of somebody never killed anybody. Surprisingly as compared to Jesus who in the Apocrypha killed so many the child gospel he killed his friend. Oh he killed so he brought him back to life so it's kind of a push. Yeah it was a push. He killed a bunch of dragons though and dragons were dope at the time. Sure. But that is not a sin. But Mithras didn't ever kill nobody. One guy did. One guy did. Technically. Technically probably. Probably. That's

Alex Jones. Andy in Kansas. You're on the air. Thanks for holding. So Alex I'm a first time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you.