Knowledge Fight - #245: December 24, 2018

Episode Date: December 28, 2018

Today, Dan and Jordan skip the family festivities and decide to celebrate Christmas Eve with Alex Jones. The gents expected Alex to be getting super religious and weird, but instead they find him admitting to a possible crime, wielding an hatchet on air, and barely talking about Christmas at all. It was a strange holiday for all.

Andy in Kansas. You're on the air. Thanks for holding Well, Alex, I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you. Hey everybody. Welcome back to knowledge fight I am Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes like to sit around drink novelty beverages and talk a wee bit about Alex Oh, indeed. We are Dan. Yes. Hey, buddy. It was the last time you got us some sweet new chairs I just did well actually. Thank you to my parents for a Christmas present. They sent me a couple of new office chairs Spoiler alert our old ones that we were using were a disaster. I'd had for probably seven to eight years The cat scratched them to shit. They were just falling apart. Yeah, I didn't lean back I would I would go home covered in little bits of the black

Lightning of the chair. Yeah, it was horrible. Yeah, but we've we we're now entering a new phase in 2019 We'll be the year of the new chair indeed. Hell. Yeah, which is a bizarre thing to be celebrating, but we do So this is a podcast where I know a lot about Alex Jones and chairs and I don't know anything But what you tell me about both indeed and that is the fun of this year show Jordan today. We've got a fun episode in front of us. We are talking about Alex Jones's Christmas Eve spectacular No, 2018. No No Nope. Oh, what is this a Bill Murray Christmas all over again? Hell, no

Alex took Christmas off Good for him did a rebroadcast on Christmas. He believes in the Lord David Knight filled in on Wednesday and then on Thursday Of course he did. He doesn't have anywhere to go. No. Oh and Troyer I think did Thursday and then Alex's do back in studio on Friday when this episode will come out But of course, we won't be able to have listened to it by the time our podcast comes out So what we have is Christmas Eve and Alex Jones is a weirdo on Christmas Eve Yeah, of course to be expected. Yeah, you know who's now a weirdo our new donors. Yes I'd like to take a minute before we start the show to give a couple

Thank yous out there to folks who have signed up and are supporting the show First of all, I'd like to say Alex not Alex Jones, but Alex you are now a policy walk. I'm a policy walk Thank you, Alex. Thank you very much, Alex Second, I'd like to say thank you to Tommy. You are now a policy walk. I'm a policy one Thank you. Thank you very much. It's finally time for Tommy Robinson to really start. Yeah, try to make good. Yeah Yeah, he needs to support Fight against him against himself. Yeah Next I'd like to say thank you to Brian. You are now a policy walk. I'm a policy walk. Thank you very much, Brian

Lastly, I'd like to say thank you to somebody who has joined on a little bit of a higher level But also I'd like to give a special thank you. Thank you and shout out to her She sent a little tip through PayPal and I forgot to send an email thanking her so I will do that right now So thank you very much, Christy. You are now a technocrat I'm a policy walk Someone someone Sotomayne sent me a bucket of poop daddy shark Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent. He's a loser little little kitty, baby I don't want to hate black people. I renounce Jesus Christ. Thank you so much, Christy

Thank you very much, Christy If you would like to become a policy walk out there and you know support the show we would appreciate it You can do that by going to our website knowledge fight comm and clicking that button that says support the show It would be very kind of you now bringing up knowledge fight calm I should tell you I didn't just get this chair these two chairs for Christmas I got another gift that is a gift and a curse and a responsibility and that is we received Donation that bumped us over into our next patreon goal Oh, that's dangerous

Which I have been very vague about for a reason and that was because I'm terrified to put this out into the world And now I have to So for a long time people have been requesting that I write a book or we write a book about Alex Jones Yeah, and I think that there's a read there's a good reason for that and that is There's not as much a utility in this podcast as I would like there to be Yeah for the people to get the information that we're putting out into the world They have to listen to a lot of our podcast in order to get the information what we've done like 250 episodes Probably more than that average we average two to three hours per episode. It's not that much to listen to sure

It's not the most digestible usable Application or presentation of the information that we're uncovering in the things that that we're learning about and so one of the things People had suggested was that book idea and I think you and I early on We're interested in the idea, but then we sat down and talked about like what that would look like what structure Yeah, and it just seemed like there wasn't a way to make it an engaging and informative book That wouldn't take us both our entire lives Yeah, whatever and we would end up probably killing each other because of the meetings about me using the passive voice No, we wouldn't have had a problem because my theory as to if it actually happened

Here's how it would have turned out you would have written a book and then I would scribble in screams in the margins Yeah, actually might have been a if we'd come up with that a long time ago. That might have been the way to go But so I kicked around the idea of like what other ways would there be to? Present the information in a way that people could use like let's say you're having an argument with somebody about x y or z thing Some conservative narrative and shit online It's harder to point them to oh here's what this is listen to 45 minutes of this podcast And then you'll get to the debunking of x y or z thing It's pretty fun sure and hopefully maybe we're getting a listener out of it

But it's not it's not the most helpful and so what I decided to do is I decided to start building a wiki But then I started to do that and I realized I don't like the wiki structure necessarily I find it very difficult to manage and it's unwieldy but I have begun and Done most of not most of the work is never going to be done but I've created a database more or less of Info wars information. It's a it's a work in progress, but because we've crossed this goal I will start put it posting it. I'll start making it available on

Knowledge fight calm. I hope by the first of the year my goal is the first of the year it'll go live That's that's sort of the the time frame of lead-up that I probably need to to brush up a few things Polish some edges and what have you oh, yeah, but there will be a link on knowledge fight calm that will go to our Tons of information Well, I am I spent a large portion of my time over Christmas Compiling and writing a bunch of this stuff up and I'm very excited to have people see it But I'm also terrified. I am grateful to all the policy wonks who got us to you to this level mainly because Dan has been writing this shit for forever and if you hadn't forced him to put it out

I don't think he ever would have until he was like 95 probably. I'm speaking directly to the policy wonks, of course I'm not talking to you. Otherwise, right. I mean, yeah, I think you're probably fairly right I would kick the cam down the road. You're like, well, there's just a little bit more No, no, I could put a little bit more in there. No, no, no So it will be incomplete from the jump for sure and a lot of it will end up focusing on guests narratives Information that those sorts of things right are more germane to the times that we've studied like 2009 and 2015 and the Trump coming to Trump era

Yeah, that sort of thing there's gonna be a lot more of that But it won't only be that and as time goes on I'm going to continue to add to these these databases and stuff like that And hopefully in time it will be a much more thorough It's it's incomplete the way the Smithsonian Institute is incomplete. You can't have every well thing in there That's an unfair comparison, but I appreciate what you're saying. Yeah, shut up. Anyway, that will be coming So thank you to everybody who's donated to the show and supported us and forced my hand on this. It's We'll see but that that is to come what is to come today

Christmas Eve So Alex is in studio. He's in a bit of a weird mood and I have this first clip I'm gonna play is a little bit long because Is it him re-enacting the entire I would watch a info wars nativity play all day. Well, see here's the thing Jordan a bunch of people It's not fair to say a bunch, but I got some field reports from people that they had sightings of Alex on the ground Tulsa boots on the ground in Tulsa boots on the ground in Tulsa Gw wasn't gonna do that everyone was like what the fuck is Alex Jones doing in Tulsa good question turns out he explains

Here in this first clip and then tells a meandering bizarre story that I can't I cannot believe is true About going to see a movie with his wife's family When I tell stories like this, I don't do it to brag I do it to give the listeners and viewers all across the US and all across the world The positive news that means he's about to brag. No when I see negative stuff. I tell you about it When I see positive things I talk about it. I went up to Omaha, Nebraska to spend the last few days with my I said Tulsa I'm sorry. I'm gonna hold on to breath. I apologize. Okay. I got you wives My second wife my my real wife my awesome wife's

Father who's who's had some heart problems and things so she was up there taking him to the clinics and hospitals and things And in the same time visiting time with her father. I love times and by myself to poke around The real rust belt and still a beautiful city in many ways Omaha, Nebraska And then my wife hadn't seen the mule. I had seen it with some friends About a week and a half ago. So I said, let's take your dad to a movie. So we got a pause already. First of all Omaha is a fine town. I've been there. It's a nice place. Second of all, Alex is like, I'm so busy fighting the info war I'm gonna see the mule a second time. Yeah Okay, all right, it's it's got it's it's directed by Clint Eastwood. I assume it's about the main villain of second foundation by azimov

I what can what don't you like? I'm just saying if you have time to go see a movie twice You're you've got some leisure in your life. That's all I'm saying. All right So we we got in there and got him out of the car and got him in the movie because he has trouble walking and I've been poisoning him for I'd already seen the movie and Well, you know, we didn't enter way early. I wanted a hot dog and some nachos So I go out there at like eight o'clock at night Okay, we need to do about five

And I get the you know the fast food and I get the hot dog and I get the nachos and all of a sudden Everybody behind the counter wants to take pictures and shake my hand and the manager comes out Now by the time I do that more people come and I'm like, okay, that's like 20 people Everyone that comes in here because it wasn't that busy But in the movies it was in between You know the film's letting out And I'm like, I gotta get out here. I gotta get back to move my wife's gonna wonder where I am I've been under 20 minutes. I'm sorry. It's not chose while I'm shaking hands and they're taking photos

More people come up. It's almost everyone. So I probably take 25 30 photographs sign autographs They're they're pulling out other people in flags out of the back of the of the movie theater Then it's the it's the big fancy mega mall. They've built there. It's all real modern Like the gangston flags very modern. I see her in Omaha. So I go back him. I was like, where have you been? I go? I got mobbed outside We go out Why do you smell like out the hall? I don't tell that part of the story

And there are 50 people are more Mainly generation z high school men and and and and women Young young people young adults and it's just crazy And we're like, hey, I gotta get her dad outside and as we go outside I'm walking through the night and more people are running in saying alex jones alex jones alex jones I was flash mobbed And people say, well, why didn't you videotape it? Yeah, good question. That's a good question. You're trying to hide alex

That's a good question. I'm a celebrity. Leave me alone The good news is I got flash mobbed in Omaha, Nebraska In the middle of nowhere Just trying to get a hot dog and she's nachos. That's not the middle of nowhere, but Oh, Omaha, Nebraska. Yeah, it's a real city. Yeah, I would also I just could test every detail of that story except for that Her dad probably has mobility problems. That's the only thing

That's the only part of that story that I'm like, yeah, all right. I'm gonna go ahead and all I thought was improv everywhere's reach Has gotten too far. Yeah, they're in Omaha. They're literally everywhere. Yeah. Um, I don't know. First of all, I would say alex hot dogs or nachos That's what I would say. First of all You don't need both you already said you had dinner three hours earlier You don't need to go to the goddamn concession stand by the way to not fast food. That is a movie theater hot dog That was a movie theater. That is just above gas station hot dog. Oh boy. That's not good. I worked at a movie theater for five years I I would uh, I have a lot of expertise in this world. Yeah Um, I don't I also just don't believe any of this stuff. This is just another one of his I'm so popular

Yeah, I don't know why it is that he is telling this story Other than to like preemptively make sure his wife thinks that he wasn't going to the bar. Yeah He wasn't drinking by a dumpster. Yeah, come on. I would I would say that it's it's fascinating to me how Regard like depending on what narrative and what sort of feeling he needs his audience to have He will tell almost identical stories Is that like I went out in public and everyone mobbed me Yeah, and it'll either be they loved him or they were spitting at him and calling him a russian Of course depending on the whatever he needs tons of people talk to him all the time

But they're either angry at him or love him depending on if he needs to inspire hope or fear It's almost like he has these paranoid projections that are dependent on how he's feeling at the time like he's feeling good He's with his family. They're enjoying christmas. So uh all of a sudden there are so many people surrounding him And they're they're giving him nothing but love Or if he's feeling bad like for instance, he just met with his lawyer All of a sudden he's gonna get mobbed by all of these evil people who are spitting on him worship Satan It could just be that they're all in his head

I think your paranoid projection theory might be right because he's not done talking about this And in this next clip he says things that I think are even less likely than that first one So there was hysteria like Elvis Presley was there or something now again I'm not building myself up for me. They just see info wars is assembled Of standing up the globalists and let me tell you our flight back Um, just the flight cancellations and things we had to go through Denver and then come back So it took me all day our state to get home. So, you know, two hour flight. It was like a 10 hour fiasco In the Denver international airport

Oh, we're not talking about the horse. Are we appreciate you appreciate you keep it up. Keep it up Everywhere everywhere everywhere everywhere. I mean, I'm talking like every second person black white Hispanic old young farmers You name it. So the good news to all the lizards and yours is I don't know what zeitgeist we've hit or what's going on. Oh another thing people kept saying Merry Christmas And I'd say oh, they go and they'd wink at me The flight attendants the the pilots the I mean it the pilots hidden camera with me and go out in public now and just show

This because this is what scares the hell out of the globalist because I'm only a focal point I'm a symbol of the liberty movement that they've tried to suppress and demonize and destroy But people know the globalists are such liars that Then it makes them embrace us even more. It's Sane that is insane So the notion that he's walking around the Denver international airport and people are it's like quite club He says and the people are walking up to him and uh, sort of like under their breath or not. Keep it up. Keep it up

That I get I think he's probably imagining some of that Maybe maybe one guy was too shy to say hello and muttered something to him that I expanded also by the way Having people say Merry Christmas to you when they are in the service industry is not surprising the idea that stewardesses Or even the pilot because when you're coming on the plane, they have the cockpit door open Sometimes the pilot's a wave at you and stuff the idea that they're saying a seasonal greeting Is not like proof that info wars is so powerful No, they're winking at him too. That means that they know the code dad There's also a flirtatious streak in uh in uh stewardesses. I think

I found I found that to be the case anyway. It's fun that uh, his His white supremacist code is very easy to break That is that is not the wind talkers that we're dealing with here. Your your code for being cool is like Merry Christmas, bro You got me. All right. See that see my eye and the rest of the world is like Sure Fine whatever we're we're bored with you So alex, but you may be bored the rest of the world is enthralled its beetle mania at the airport

Yes, better than Elvis in Omaha somewhere right in middle america as the counting crows would uh, The real america day. Yeah, uh, so that that's all good and well But while alex was out of town Something happened To his car that has led him to be in a very weird mood here on christmas eve I was driving into work Somebody must have been driving my car while I was gone because it was on npr. Who would have been driving your car Your kids are not old enough to drive

Your wife was with you your real wife was with you was buckly driving your car Who else has keys to your car could be driving this car? Does rob do have keys to your car? This is a serious mystery. I need to get to the bottom. Someone hide car jacked me and then left my car where I found it But there was one thing changed And two songs in a row were anti-war christmas songs Wars over you if you wanted jingle bells And I thought you know, there's the left they're against war. They hate trump for pulling out of And there he is with criminal justice reform that the democrats put in to give blacks three times the sentences

And then trump fixes it. They're like shut up. You Nazi. Don't let the blacks out of jail So that's a little all over the place, but uh, you know Someone stole his car and put it on npr and when he got it back in his car apparently that john lennon song Happy christmas war is over. Yeah Now he's furious about it because these leftists they are supposed to hate war but trump stopped the war He's stopped war further more further more. Here's my issue with this whole bullshit story. Uh, hold on somebody just Snuck npr onto your car while you were gone somebody else was driving it and you get in there Being alex jones and you notice immediately npr is on and then you listen to a couple of songs man, come on

I'm alex jones. I'm still gonna see what npr has got to play I mean you'd have to assume that means that npr is shifted to a fm format And uh, or just playing christmas songs in a block as opposed to it being like a interstitial american life Yeah, or uh, all things considered playing a little lennon in It was just ezra canig singing the song Yeah So we'll get into the war thing here in a minute because that's nonsense But you're particularly confused by this criminal justice reform thing

So if I understand correctly alex's take on the criminal justice reform bill that passed through the first step act was that uh, The trump did it the democrats put all this language in there that specifically said we're gonna keep black people Specifically in jail for three times as long no no no as they were before he was saying that that was the way it was before Right and that's what the democrats. That's what the democrats did and then trump fixed it right by using his Incredible power right to understand legislative language right and to make the first uh step act happen Oh, absolutely So while it's absolutely a good thing that bipartisan legislation passed congress that would work to ease mandatory minimum sentences and work harder on Rehabilitation of offenders instead of punishing them. It's absolutely absurd to give trump any credit for the first step

I think he did it for one thing a ton of the things contained in the bill are things that leftists have been pushing for for a long time And actually in many ways This is just an extension of things that have been in the works since obama's term from an article in mclatchy quote The new law called the first step act retroactively applies changes congress made to drug sentencing laws in 2010 Which experts say will allow between four thousand and six thousand current prisoners to immediately qualify for supervised release programs That is to say that in 2010 there was a bill passed that Saw to undo the damage that was done by uh the varying sentences for like crack and cocaine Right, right that sort of thing varying racist sentences for cracking under obama in 2010 those uh that was passed

What this bill does the first step act that is really good is it makes them retroactive right? So that is a very positive thing But it's really just an extension of something that has already been in the works Long before trump and people have been on the left have been pushing for for quite a while The reason for the varying sentences for coke and crack goes back to the anti drug abuse act of 1986 signed into law by reagan After being passed overwhelmingly by the bipartisan effort. It was like 90 percent of both the house and senate Yeah, that's very few people were against it. There were also a Way way more white people in the house and senate at the time and the tv news was hamming up this crack the new epidemic

Taking over the inner cities. You can't definitely not regular folk like you and me the inner cities You can't say that that was a republican or democrat initiative in as much as Both houses of congress voted overwhelmingly for it regardless of party It's a it's a shame of both parties. Oh, yeah, frankly So this bill uh, oh one of the things that's been touted as one of the bill's uh, really positive things Is that it bans the shackling of pregnant prisoners? But that was a practice that has already been banned by the bureau of prisons in 2008 That really shouldn't have been anything. There shouldn't have been a conversation. There should not have been

I read that in the bill and i'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, hold on. Hold on That wasn't already taken care of like at the dawn of humanity. It was by the bureau of prisons in 2008 It's more fucked up to realize that it wasn't in 2007 right, but it's not it's Who knows how well I bet they weren't doing a great job of following the B. O. P. Guidelines or anything like that And it's good to put that into law, but it was yeah It's boy scouts had condoms at their parties before we stopped shackling pregnant women It is good, but it's also not nearly enough this bill The act only relates to federal prisoners and does literally nothing to fix the wrongful incarceration slash enslavement of far far more

People locked up in state prisons of the estimated 2.3 million prisoners there are in this country Only approximately 180 thousand are in federal prisons over two-thirds of whom are not even eligible for this program Which makes the act seem possibly kind of just like lip service to the private prison industry All in all this was a bill that enjoyed largely bipartisan support that trump did nothing to make happen If anything the argument should be that jared kushner pushed for it So if alex wants to praise someone that's his guy The reality is that trump saw an opportunity to attach himself to something that was universally popular Cost him nothing and he could use to his advantage. So he did just that now further

alex should not be in favor of the first step act based on his principles For one it excludes offenders who used firearms in committing of their offenses He should believe that this is an unfair dehumanizing firearms. Ah, it's the libs. They're trying to keep our guns in jail If you were caught selling crack and you had a gun You're not eligible for the benefits that will come from the first step act. That's kind of rude Sure, but now it should be super against that. Absolutely Plus the congressional budget office estimates that the estimates that the plan will cost taxpayers 346 million over the next 10 years

Because the released people will be eligible for benefits like snap and insurance assistance If obama did something like this, it would be proof of a globalist plot against good hard working white citizens An attempt to flood the streets with criminals in order to set off social unrest and bring in fema camps. It's all nonsense I think he's applying a double standard. It feels that way. I think he might be applying a double standard now the the Issue i'm i'm bringing that up because that's the way alex's rhetoric generally works. Yeah, obviously the amount You'll save and not incarcerating these people makes up for the 346 million. Of course. Of course, but alex is a propagandist He would use that number against obama if he had a fucking chance immediately instantly. Yeah So anyway, he would say actually he wouldn't use that number that number is too small

He would say it's going to cost the taxpayers billions upon billions of dollars a year And that's and that's without knowing that there are rapists and murderers in your community And somehow the federal reserve is to blame or some shit. Who knows actually that is true. Who knows? So this is all nonsense He spends a large portion of the show trying to give trump credit for this and being like He's the best, you know, even if you're a liberal you got a love that he did this. I'm like, well, he did sign it Yeah, but what's he gonna do veto that? Yeah Like that'd be that'd be pretty fun. Is that is that what you're gonna do is I mean

He should based on his beliefs too based on his track record about law and order Yeah, yeah, yeah, that stuff trump should absolutely doesn't want to appear soft on innocent people being in he never has Yeah, he's never done that. He's People oh sure sure they're innocent anyways, we need to give the central pike five the death penalty I know you say they're innocent because of evidence and I'm a big racist But we don't want to appear weak on the innocent. That'd be strong So all that's a hot load of bullshit and uh, Alex, I mean Yeah, it's one of those things. It's like I hate the way he's lying, but at least he's lying about something that's

Mostly positive. Yeah, you know, yeah, I don't know He is also trying to present the idea that like democrats are against the plan or they have been against it Yeah, I don't understand why well, we'll get into that later, but It's just it's incredibly infuriating for when you look at the reality, but Alex Loves trump. He's not gotten off the train. Yeah, he's still on board real hard Um, and in this next clip it turns out he also loves trump's daddy Yeah, my reputation is amazing as I come from the exact same people

pro america anti-communist that discovered the globalist plan more than 50 years ago like fred trump So I've been in the same operation That's organic from the american people And I'm part of the very same stay behind network of americans To challenge the globalist And now they are the stay behind network. Now they are beginning to be removed

Now they're beginning to feel Our fingers around their throat Doesn't matter what knives they shove in our gush. We got good. Oh boy gush Because by the time our eyes roll back in our heads our enemy will be dead Merry christmas They can't stand our spirit. So yeah, that is uh, that's a christmas. That's a christmas message. Absolutely In the name of our dear lord's birthday. I just want to let everybody know Even though we are being stabbed in the good old boy guts. We will choke the life

The true message of christ So yeah, so far we got lying about criminal justice reform screaming about killing the globalists and bragging about Getting a hot dog and Tulsa. Yeah. Yeah. Um, oh my god. I don't know why I'm mixing up those two. I don't know either Uh So yeah, anyways, this is the christmas eve episode, right? okay, so I to be fair christmas eve day He hasn't even put the presents under the tree yet. He's working his way into it, you know

Like this is this is where you start and then you get festive later Yeah, no, no, maybe he's getting it all out of his system. So when he goes home, he can be like, hey I'm sorry. I've been poisoning your dad for all these years But also merry christmas instead of screaming about how the globalists need to have their throats cut and he doesn't yeah Yeah, I mean, I would make for a better celebration. I would say I would think so. Um, so with his real wife, of course Yeah, uh, this next clip is sort of an extension of that theme the idea of like fighting and killing But it's a consistent theme. Alex makes a So he talks about how he's going to defeat the globalists in this next clip

Which is nothing new but then he sort of spells out what comes next and that also isn't new 95% of people are gonna die. No, he has another battle in front of him. Okay, the globalists are taken care of facebook He has it's close. He has He's mentioned this before but just the way he says it is really funny to me and now you're full forever it's close

and then We will face the ai and the next levels You are nothing but a training toy for babies So prepare to join the asheaf of history with your fallen gods hillary clinton bathomat satan and suffer what about this christmas We are going to receive the knowledge of the next level. Whoa. All right. Let's get serious. See it focused here Okay

No, you can't drop that and then be like, okay, let's move on. What an asshole This christmas. We're gonna find out the secrets of the universe. Anyways, we're gonna get back to this serious thing over here How are you guys doing? Actually, that is what he gets into It's amazing your instincts. Would you believe he has a terrible take on the whole thing? No, he shouldn't even have it No, he should be 100 for this. I'm gonna be very furious. This is his whole thing This was trump shoved ices up his dirty asshole level when we were in syria So getting out of syria should be a slam. Oh, no, he's for it. He's for it. Oh, okay, but his take on it It involves some problems. Oh, I would say

And then he actually was honorable and pulled 2 000 troops who were daily truck supplies of food and armaments to The Kurds who were allied with ices And that's it You're like, well, the Kurds were fighting ices years ago. Yeah, but now they're allied with them So what trump has made the moral and correct high ground decision Yeah, that's absolutely not true

Like that's that's absurd. Like the idea of pulling troops out, uh, like us like Generally, yeah, always i'm gonna be in favor of us not having troops places Right, right, right But in the instance like this you do have to recognize that when you do pull those troops out What you're doing is creating a power vacuum that is going to lead to possibly the genocide of the Kurds Uh, no, that's never been tried before. It's been tried a bunch before. No by who? Where do you want me to start?

Oh, so so hold on so you're saying that by removing a large number of troops Really really quickly then that could create a power vacuum say let's let's just take a random year where this could have occurred as a hypothetical 1991 I was going to go with 2011. Okay. How about 1997 too with that one We've not done a great job with the Kurds. No, and they've generally been a very strong ally of ours So the Kurds are not allied with ISIS And in fact the same day that trump announced he was going to abandon the Kurds in northern syria ISIS set off a bomb in raqqa killing at least one Kurdish fighter

The Kurds are part of the syrian democratic forces an alliance that uh fought against isis el nozara and the like Who were supported by saudi arabia in qatar in terms of providing arms This idea that at some point the Kurds switched alliances to supporting isis is patently absurd Because if they did this conflict or at least this large aspect of it would be over it wouldn't exist I don't I Don't understand his take at all like among all the bad takes that I've read and this has been This whole syrian situation. I wish I had Way more of a grasp on it because I've read every possible like angle on this

I know I know a bit but at the same time I recognize that there's so much. I even don't understand Yeah, I'm going through it and I'm kind of and I'm in this place of like yes, we shouldn't have troops there It's an illegal war obviously We should remove troops from that place like the arguments for keeping them there are really It's a proxy war between us and the the russians But at the same time we're also trying to stop genocide, but are we really doing any good at that? Like are we are we a positive force in syria? Has anybody even asked that? I think that I think that at the end of the day some of those questions will be answered by our absence

Just the answers we may not like to see right or we might not like what we find out whenever it goes that way Absolutely, I don't know like I said there's there are there are a lot of forces in play in terms of the situation in syria I I I even hazard to say whether I'm for or against the idea of taking troops out exactly I I could I can see an argument for and I can also see strong argument To not do it based on the consequences that will come. Yeah. Yeah. So I I don't I don't know It's it's not a perfect thing But the idea that alex is saying that the curds are allied with isis is absolutely not true

And the idea that he's trying to say that trump did something honorable and noble Yeah, that's definitely not way assistance to the curds It just leaves them sitting ducks to the people who uh are supported by Saudi Arabia, Qatar, russia, Assad like those sorts of people who will Now that the us isn't there as the main ally for the curds will have no incentive not to Make massive offensives and slaughter people by possibly the thousands I mean it could it could turn into something really really awful. Yeah, and I'm sure that this has like Him choosing syria specifically definitely has nothing to do with

The interests of foreign powers that he may be interested in I'm sure he's going to take troops out of yemen, of course We're going to stop providing misterial sport there. No, uh, we're definitely going to get out of iraq Um, I assume I assume we're going to get out of so many of the like we have 50 military bases All around the world like doesn't come up. I assume that the honorable thing to do would do would be that I don't I mean, I can't think of any specific reason that syria would be picked amongst all of these places that we're killing people Damn, well, it's super interesting too because alex's conversation of this ends up getting into the idea of like now that we're getting gone Uh, you know, they're gonna wrap that up real quick. Everything will be fine. And then much like I told you, uh during the run up to the 2016 election the plan will kick into place once everything's settled down asad is going to step down and hold elections

So he's still using that narrative as being like that's what's right in front of us Yeah, asad is going to allow democracy to thrive and every like alex your your arguments are based on Lies that steve pacenek told you. Yeah, and now you don't even like steve pacenek anymore But you're still using his narratives like that's so fascinating to me that alex is like Oh steve pacenek was trying to convince me to say that the los vegas shooting didn't happen He was trying to get me to make that my narrative But I realized that that's not true and that's not the case

alex went on air and said that steve pacenek is probably still running cia syops probably But hasn't taken a second to consider what pieces of his worldview were brought to him by steve pacenek and questioned those The idea of the secret counter coup the idea that That our military russia and asad were all had a secret agreement that they were gonna Everybody's gonna be super and that obama wasn't involved with don't forget behind obama's back All that stuff is stuff that steve told him and he hasn't taken even a tiny little bit to be like, huh? If he's been lying to me and trying to get me to go down roads He wants me to go down

What about this because it would completely destroy his support for trump see i have No problem with this because if there's one thing that i have really learned from this podcast It is that you can never underestimate how lazy alex really is so lazy. Why would he go back and change it? You're talking about mr. Fate quote Mr. Not fact check anything alex jones. Yeah, of course. He's super lazy But i think that there's an aferious reason behind it too and that is like i said If that piece if that domino falls it calls into question so many of the reasons that he ended up supporting trump Oh, like i don't think he probably it would have ended up supporting trump if he didn't have that fictional

mythology of being the mouthpiece of the secret Good guys in intelligence counter coup nonsense going on that steeve was telling about it allowed him to live in a spy movie that he already Believed himself to be living in. Yeah, that's true. It's a scyop that steeve ran on him It verified alex jones his own delusions of grandeur. Yeah, come on. It's it's crazy But that's nuts But if if it comes down to it and there is peace in syria, which i don't know when that's gonna happen I don't know what that would even look like let's assume that it does and then i saw it doesn't step down and have

elections alex Well, it's never gonna come to that because there'll never be a satisfactory piece to where he's like and now it's time alex and if and if he doesn't it'll the narrative will just be like Trump asked him to stay on because he's the strong leader that needs to be in there right now in order to protect the Well, he was gonna step down, but now he's super nationalist. Yeah, we need him there So we're adding him to our globalist network of nationalists, right? So I don't know this is all a lot of nonsense, but it's not nearly as much nonsense as this next clip

Trump went to Saudi Arabia He negotiated previously with him over the phone and via letter And he said, I know you're funding al qaeda and all the other variants Of course I know you've been working with lesser intelligence to do it since the british put you in power almost 100 years ago He said if you do it, we're gonna overthrow you right now. Okay, and they said, oh, no, we'll we'll say that in the letter We'll let women drive cars and go to college and start taking their burqas off and trump said bingo bingo So to respond to that they begin flipping out and going crazy all over our news that trump is the worst person on earth

Because the war's over if you want it to be so do you understand the argument that he's making there basically No, I think I feel like you're trolling a little bit. No, no, no, I get I get the I get what he's trying to say that trump basically brought women driving and The ability to take off your hijab Yeah, I think there's a difference between understanding the definitions of the words that he's using and understanding the argument that he's making I was more asking about the the words. Yeah, the words. I understand. Okay. Yeah, and you can see why it's it's nonsense What see donald trump went to saudi arabia on may 20th and 21st 2017 Here are just some of the things that have happened since then that don't really match up with alex's stupid narrative

In november 2018 amnesty international released a report showing that saudi arabia quote tortured Sexually harassed and mistreated several human rights activists detained since may of this year while they were driving The activists were flogged and electrocuted leading one of them to attempt suicide repeatedly while in custody On march in march 2018 saudi arabia arrested a number of women's rights activists Some of whom were leading campaigners for the right to drive for women Including luja and al-haf lul and aziza al-yusef In essence quote as the saudi Saudi crown prince tours the world presenting himself as a reformer

He is arresting women's rights activists who refuse to accept his tokenism leaving it to us to make their voices heard said kenneth roth executive director at human rights watch In august 2018 saudi arabia sought the death penalty In a trial against human rights activist isra al-gogham and four associates of hers The charges they accused her of included quote participating in protests chanting slogans hostile to the regime crime attempting to inflame public opinion Crime and filming protests and publishing on social media death penalty Arrested in december 2015. She was held without access to a lawyer for 32 months Her most recent trial was scheduled for november 21st of this year

But she wasn't brought to the court which is also what happened in her october 28th hearing Which is led some international rights organizations to fear for the worst. Do you mean that she's already dead? i'll uh kashogi or uh just in some sort of terrible way. Yeah, they don't want to present her public Oh, yeah, no, it's it's one or the other. There's no there's no she's fine Well, there's strong fears that that's the case barring any proof. That's about as best you can say it seems that way Yeah, oh yeah, and then as you brought up in august or i'm sorry in august 2018 The canadian ambassador was expelled from the country after canada's foreign minister tweeted in support of releasing jailed activists Then there was the october saw related murder of journalist jamal kashogi the atrocities being committed in yemen

And the list goes on and on with instances of saudi arabia being squarely on the wrong side of human rights issues Long after trump supposedly gave them a stern talking to it was actually a saw three related The the murdering of kashogi Nothing that alex is saying makes any sense and all he's doing is creating a fictional reality to live in to justify Why he used to be critical of saudi arabia and now thinks they're the good guys Without having to just admit that he's doing it solely because trump has said that they're the good guys Yeah, so that's all he's doing. He's just trying to shift his narratives by creating a false reality And it's not true and the world is suffering because of it. No

No, it's it's almost like most of the republican party has abandoned every ideal They ever stood for in order to do the politically expedient thing which is right the wave of a massive racist alex is literally carrying water for people who are trying working to um Kill everybody in yemen and destroy human rights. Uh, it's uh, it's a mess but m mbs must have thought it was a brilliant move to be like Hey, I will give all of you the right to drive just like these activists have said and secretly I will kill all of these activists

So I'd never have to worry about activism again, and I'll never have to change anything past that I mean it sends a strong message. Yeah, I also don't like calling him mbs because that's uh, the name of a uh, text book Uh, the company that uh, there was like a warehouse in columbia, missouri Uh, and it was like a kush gig that I could have gotten when I was like 19 or something like that Like I would have been made if I could have gotten in there. Yeah. Yeah, but I failed a drug test and they didn't hire me But the funny thing is I I had taken the stuff, you know, it's that's supposed to flush out your system. Right. All right, uh, but it didn't work Of course not because that stuff never does when I got my drug test results back

I tested positive for a number of substances. I had never taken Which is a little bit scary. Anyway, those memories flood back anytime. I hear mbs. I got you. I apologize How rich I could have been at 19 mohabit bin salman. I thought I uh, I offended you So alex is uh, clearly peddling a uh, a self deluded narrative About trump and his actions vis-a-vis the curds and saudi arabia But it's not him who's been tricked. It's the leftists I mean mpr cnn. They are like the war party now right there with the neocons. What a disgusting group of people but When is the average liberal gonna say I'm not a leftist and say my god trump is the maverick

He's the liberator And then you're gonna start really appreciating him and admitting you got conned Uh, probably not soon I would say Trump is the great liberator and all of you liberals have been conned. How how how how how can you How just like how I I I just I just don't understand it like this is a for real psychotic episode that's so much of america is having all At the same time where up is down and it nothing makes any fucking sense none of what they're saying makes sense Like I don't I I just want to have a conversation that makes sense instead of a conversation where it's like

Um, actually president alice from wonderland is doing a great job and everything that she does is fantastic And how dare you you evil fucking rabbit? What are you doing with that pocket watch and not be like, uh, I No, I just think we shouldn't lower taxes for the rich. I don't know what to You're a trader. Oh shit I don't know. I want to see an alice in wonderland with alex's voice I think a lot of this might come down to to the the stuff that we focus on so much I think that that perception might be in your head because of So much of the covering the propaganda world

Even though it is so much more mainstream than it used to be and everything I think that we have maybe a little bit of a skewed opinion of how everyone is conversing I guess because we hear so much alex jones, right? No, that's that's reasonable But the the only other explanation then is that so much of the republican party is either apathetic To reading any news whatsoever, which now that I say that nope, I agree To quote to quote trump talking to saudi arabia bingo. Yeah I was I posed that as a question between two options and then finished the first one was like, oh, yeah

No, never mind. You're correct. Yeah moving on the chicagoan who started a question and ended a sentence It's like that huge grand movie boo today I was gonna let it go So alex is doing some stuff that I would say is evil like I I legitimately think the narratives that he's perpetuating and putting out into the world on christmas eve. No less This is christmas eve, right? Yeah, and I think that the I think it's very dangerous. I think it's I think it's a really bad Bad thing. I think his behavior is I think that there's a moral character to it

I'm salute oftentimes I don't I don't really care too much to get into the the moral discussion about like him lying about the myac report Yeah, that's my job Even if you want to I'm not super interested in it Right, I know I know the morality of lying is not always that like that compelling of a conversation But in this case, I do think that the lies that he's saying are leading to deaths or at very least Normalizing and covering up deaths and I think that that is really bad. I think that's actually I think that's evil and that makes it all the funnier that in this next clip alex talks about how he's incapable of evil

See, here's the thing. I can think macchiavellian and I can think treacherous, but Then I'm always covering what they're doing. I can't apply it myself. I just can't do it. That's why I have roger stone limitations I I I have blind spots you could say it's a good thing but all I've got straight shooting and That's pathological these people that just they get into lies and manipulation and they don't even know who they are anymore It's like louis gummert said to the head of googly said you don't even know the light if you saw it

It's like you're a blind man But see I can see darkness I can see evil But where can't do it? I don't know how to explain that I And then the problem is I can't do evil stuff literally I mean I do bad stuff sometimes out of anger and I feel bad about later But I can't like launch an evil plan that screws people over and that lies to people And then feel good about it. I'm starting an MLM. I can't even I think he's actually being blasphemous right now. I'm so loyal That I'm disloyal does that make sense not at all. No

And that's an important thing to quantify and then to realize that because I The hindsight is 2020 all I can say is this Steve Bannon is so damn bad This whole thing this is all a bit about Steve Bannon you bet Alex is apologizing for ever supporting Steve Bannon So this whole like I can't do evil speech is in like I can't do evil or at least not like Steve fucking Bannon Yep, that asshole the guy who was Trump's campaign manager who I loved

Forever the guy who uh had played an instrumental part in getting Trump elected the guy who ran the Other propaganda outlet that I would report on repeatedly to the point of getting me sued by hamdi ulecaya Nah, come on the the guy who now is working to help Uh, but jair balsenaro the guy who I say is brazil's trump the guy who is a part of the uh, well We would say fascist authoritarian rise around the world that alex calls the Nationalist yeah movement around the world Steve Bannon has a huge part in all that what the fuck are you doing alex analyze for a second the things you're doing It's crazy. Yeah, he can't it's crazy

It is such a pathetic dumb dumb and it's just pathological to even consider saying like I couldn't do evil I'm just not capable of it like that's that's really uh, that's that's a disease like that is a malignant narcissistic trait Oh, yeah, like I can do no wrong of course I do get angry sure, but i'm gonna minimize that I do bad things But I you know there is a therapeutic aspect to that and I think that you know Oftentimes whenever you're in therapy and you you suffer from like guilt and shame Excesses in your life and that sort of thing it does there is a helpful Uh, little trick to being like I did a bad thing. I'm not bad that sort of thing. Yes, but alex doesn't deserve that

No, he is bad. Well even even then You're bad and you're a bad person You're a bad you're just not even not even like morally you're bad at being a person If only because he went to a movie and you got a hot dog and nachos. Yeah, that's ridiculous. What are you doing? That's excessive. Why is it? Why is it that there's so many weird dietary shit that evil republicans? What what do you mean? You eat a well done steak go to hell with ketchup. Yeah Get out here. So I don't know that that stuff is just really funny to me the idea that one thing

He's apologizing for is supporting steve bannon when everything about him supports steve bannon. Yeah, uh, you can't apologize for other stuff But and that he supports everything that steve bannon is doing Even though it's so evil. Yeah. Yeah incapable of evil incapable of evil So now at this point alex goes out to break And he so I don't know. Did you play sports growing up? I did Do you have any bosses when you were younger that gave you inspiration or any coaches that gave you some inspirational advice? Uh, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, like what? Um, I don't know. Uh I was your eyes open hearts can't lose. No, no, no that guy wasn't real

Was that quote real? Was that like based off of a real thing that that guy said? I mean someone wrote it Someone wrote it. Obviously. Uh, no, I had a baseball coach My sophomore year who said all kinds of inspirational shit and do you remember any of it? Um Just just cliche stuff probably right like Like I had a boss who would do the time to lean time to clean. Uh, no, no, that's weird and evil Time to lean time to clean might respond to that was always time to lean time for me to go the fuck home I'm cutting out on this shift asshole. Yeah. Yeah. No his his shit was always like Work hard, you know, like that kind of sure effort overcomes

But yeah, but you probably recognize that almost everything that that person said is just something that Thousands of people it's basically from uh from an inspirational poster. It's not some sort of He didn't say hang in there kitty a lot. Sure. It's exactly that. It's not some sort of like really spat Every coach says the exact same thing. Uh, yeah, you're a coach. You get the handbook whenever you start being a coach It's just a long list of cliches. Yep So in this next clip alex acts like a cliche that a coach told him is some sort of profound advice Trump is very fatalistic. He believes that he goes into this I remember one thing a football coach told me that was the best thing I ever got told

Poison your father the show important. I wasn't that good of a player They put me in varsity when I was a freshman after the season One of three people and I hated it And I was getting run over it was so painful But it was because I made some big plays and I hurt people and they liked that Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait We got it. We got a pause there You got put up to varsity because you hurt people and they like that. Yes. I understand it's football. Texas is great

Look, it's football. But even so like You're not supposed to hurt people. No, you're supposed to hit people. Sure But there's safe ways to do that in unsafe ways and it's sounding like possibly alex played football I played football and I tried very hard not to hurt people. Right. That's a psychotic impulse. I hit people Yeah, because that's the tackle people. There's a reason you have pads and all that shit You like The people who would play like high school football and be really excited to try and hurt Somebody that's someone who also may or may not have killed a couple dogs in their life. Yeah, that is a lunatic. Absolutely. So anyway, the advice

But this coach told me he said you go 110 percent. You don't get hurt You go anything less than a hundred plus percent. You're gonna get hurt and I learned it's true You go a hundred percent or you get hurt and the president is going a hundred and 10 damn percent Biggest oh, he's gonna get hurt He's gonna get hurt. Yeah, he's gonna get hurt But that like go half speed. That's when you get hurt is like one of the most bush league Uh, it makes me think he didn't actually play sports because even if you didn't you would know that piece of advice Yeah, you know how most of the nfl goes half speed all the time

That's how they became the the professional sports players that there are that that's why like there's a 25 percent Immassive injury rate all the time. Totally. Yeah. So now after this alex gets weird This thing should be you go 110 percent. You're gonna get cte fucking stop it Stop it because he believes in you. He's ready to die He's ready to be killed. He's ready to be impeached. He doesn't give a damn because he knows in the tarot card deck There's got to be something called the king Something called the prince something called the hero. There's got to be somebody that doesn't back down There's got to be somebody that doesn't sell out. There's got to be somebody that didn't pedophile

There's got to be somebody that loves god And trump is that card info wars is that card you are that card So get ready for fireworks because this is it There's no pedophile card in the tarot deck In the tarot is the tarot deck play used for playing war. No, I don't think so I'm not totally sure why alex jones would be bringing up tarot cards Something that he's specific I think this is evil in his worldview and saying that trump is the king card in it

But oh well, it's only his christmas eve episode I really don't think this is the christmas eve episode dan You're fucking with me It's the perfect time for him to ramble about how his hero is the assumed top of the esoteric magic devil card game deck The problem is that the tarot deck doesn't operate the same way a normal deck of cards does where the highest card The higher the card is the better it is Also in normal decks aces beat kings

So I guess trump isn't the top in that conception either, but let's not get too far off The four suits of the tarot deck wands cups pinnacles or coins and swords Each represent more or less a different one of the elements That's generally how uh most people look at the tarot deck and the king of each suit denotes a completely different thing in each suit Also a king card being drawn means a completely different thing depending on where the card is drawn in a reading And if it's drawn upright or reversed, there's a lot of variables in terms of each card Nope, the king wins right that's the point of the tarot deck. No, no, no, no He beats the ten of spades at least what where's the ten of spades in the tarot deck? There isn't there aren't spades

There's like a ten of cups. Well, then how do you play spades? You can't you can't The four suits are each a minor arcana because they each have identical cards in each suit So each one is an instance of a minor arcana if alex wanted to really make his point You should have chosen a card from the major arcana where there's only one individual card of its kind in the deck For instance, he could have chosen the emperor which is described as quote The emperor represents a powerful leader who demands respect and authority as a leader you rule with a firm But fair hand you have a clear vision of what you want to create and you organize those around you to manifest your goal You listen to the advice of others

But you prefer to have the final say Conflict doesn't scare you and you wouldn't hesitate to use your power to protect those you care about That could have been a fun way for alex to describe trump those those sentences remind me of this thing People used to scam it. It's called a barnum statement. You know where it could describe literally fucking everybody Oh, sure. I mean, there is a touch of that in this. I don't know. I don't want to go too far into like I I think I prefer the each hinge. That's all i'm saying same thing. I like to throw some bones dan Oh, also by the way in tarot deck. There isn't a prince card. There's a knight. Um, and there's no hero The hero card. There's a fool. I think he's talking about a magic the gathering deck

That might be might be talking about that All this is to say that alex is very stupid and almost never knows what he's talking about Particularly when he ventures accidentally into the worlds of the supposedly evil things that he's against Yeah, but trump is the king card. He's the king card king card king of cops Anyway, and this next clip. Oh, dude, so yeah christmas. You got very excited I did because I forgot really don't believe this is the christmas eve happens I forgot this clip was coming uh because Something ends up happening at the end of this episode that kind of

I thought that that was what we were working towards. Yeah, I forgot about this clip alex should never have said this on This is really really fucked up. Do we have a list of those? I mean there is I mean larry nickles shouldn't have blackmailed congress, right? That's that's one alex should let him say that No, um alex everything steve pechenik has ever said alex shouldn't have talked about being debriefed by russian intelligence agents Of course, I shouldn't have said that on air. Nope. Uh shouldn't talked about possibly killing his dogs It's a long list. It's a long list this one. I think might have legal implications He's having roger stone on oh, okay

roger's on the other end of the phone and they're talking about how all this russia stuff is bullshit And alex accidentally Tells some backstage business. Oh, no, and I think that alex is revealing something he really really shouldn't reveal I was there And you're like, well, this is off record, but I'll say now this is during the campaign. Yeah, fox news. Just let me go As a contributor. It's not really supposed to be public. I'm they pay me but So first things first alex is putting roger's business into the streets That during the campaign he was a paid contributor in fox news

So, I mean that is what it is. That's whatever right, but that gives us a time frame. It has to be after um November 2015 because that's the first time that roger appeared on alex's show right to the election It has to be in that time frame roger was fired from fox news and he comes to alex Um, you know what you when info wars hire me and I said, you know roger, you're a good guy on the show I promote your website and I sell your book. That's good so roger has come to alex and he has asked him for a job at info wars

Importantly, he said he saw his book. He did not read his book Well, his book was a making of the president c20. Oh, it could have been one of his older books though Yeah, the one about lbj killing uh, kind of stuff like that So, uh in 2016 at some point, uh roger stone started his own show on the genesis communications network called the stone cold truth It was very short lived. So that probably is right around when we're talking about here He asked alex for a job. He got him a show on gcn And then it went away I'm not a lot of extra money laying around, but I said if you could get me julian assange

Because you've been talking about your intermediary. Oh, I Honestly, this shirt goes on fox news cnn msnbc new york times video, but not us And you're like, well, I'll try. I know this talk show hosted So alex jones has now just admitted on air that he directed roger stone to get in touch with julian assange uh He's going to try and portray that as like it's no big deal roger was unsuccessful in getting in touch with him Meanwhile If it does turn out that there is concrete evidence that roger was in contact with them and stuff like that

Like if that evidence exists, which I I think there's strong indications that he was But the the actual evidence of it. I think is still forthcoming and we'll see if it is the truth or if it's not But if it is alex has just put himself in prison I know that is he just did it to himself This is the first time i've ever been like god, I wish there really were like fbi agents from all around the world Totally to this show because yes, they should be because you are a crime committer You're just crime committed during the campaign roger stone got fired as a contributor by fox news Asked me for a job and I said you're a good guy. I will only give you a job

If you bring me the most illegal bring that you can give me I alex jones do hereby direct you to commit a crime for me turns out alex got us a christmas gift too In the form of this stupid ass clip isn't that how mark richards is in jail forever? You can't direct somebody to commit a crime without being part of the crime yourself There's a little bit. So anyway, let's finish this boy pop. Oh god. No semen. He's going. I mean, I remember You I'm not trying to like oh you want this job for me. It's just a story of what happened. I remember Literally, you know saying no, you're not and it was like a year till I gave you a job for other stuff But no is you're a good guy and give commentary, but sure I was there

The starting and ending that clip with I was there not not going to play out well for you alex Here's what I also I didn't just direct you to commit that crime I need to make sure that you know I was there when the crime was also committed and I made it a condition of getting a job with me Which if that's the case he did give roger a job So if alex is presenting it as like if you can get me in touch with julie and assange I will give you a job. Yeah Logically, I mean he did get a job. Yep. Did he come through with it? Now?

This is a whole new investigation for uh for moller and all you know I'm sure whatever the reality of the situation is they already know anybody who's been investigating this with any kind of like Sapina power and stuff like that. They already know all of this is it's no secret to official channels But it's really funny for us on christmas eve that alex jones is in studio Trying to get really defensive and accidentally reveals that he enlisted roger stone to contact julie and assange Then roger stone clearly was telling him that he did contact julie and assange I mean remember that one episode we park the heralds. I committed trees Remember that episode that we did where alex stayed up super late in order to cover the wiki leaks

anniversary special almost as if roger stone told him was going to be the big uh so I think alex is I mean this is this this shows like I get why you use fake quotes now because this is yeah, this is you are just Man, he's just the weakest possible link in this chain of propaganda. It's insane And buckley and everybody else who works behind the scenes at info wars must do so much work to make like to keep this on track Yeah, because left to his own devices. He's gonna just do shit like that So many people must be telling him alex

Don't say shit about this. I was debriefed by russian agents and I didn't contact the fbi Oh, is that should I not have said that? Oh, okay. I directed, uh roger stone to commit a crime Oh, I shouldn't have said that we gotta install a cost button Sandy hook was 100 fake should I oh boy I would have loved it if you were how many alakaya fucks children I would love it if there was like if you were watching it and it was just sort of like everything's going normally on the show And he's like roger, you know during the campaign you you came to me You told me you got fired by fox news. You said you wanted a job

I told you that if you get me julie and assange, I'll give you a job and then just all of a sudden Let's go out Yeah, we're experiencing some technical difficulty. Just flashes up alex jones dancing out to the lobby with a hot dog He's so great. Oh just everybody diving over each other to hit that button Holy shit, I alex even if what you're saying is a knock you with don't fucking say that It's almost it's almost like sometimes he'll take a like saved by the bell break to just break the fourth wall and look at us And be like by the way, I committed all these crimes and then turn back to roger me like hey What else are we narrating about today? I was totally expecting once roger came on because that's alex giving him an introduction

He hasn't even said anything yet. I was fully expecting roger to be like alex Or something like that instead. He's just like everybody has wronged me like all right He doesn't address the idea that he he's like I have always told the truth about everything and you know I've told the the house intelligence committee all the truth and the record will show that I am not a liar All right, I think I think roger probably likes that. They probably have a deal put together where uh alex Donates a hundred thousand dollars to his legal defense fund every time he ruins his legal defense

Yeah, every every time he airs dirty laundry. There's a fee. It's like a swear jar. It's like a swear jar. Yeah So, uh, they don't talk much more about this, but they do spend a little time talking about that. Um The criminal justice reform and how trump is basically like a super liberal Let's talk about that because you've got the criminal justice reform pulling troops out I mean, this should be a wet drain for democrats instead. They act like it's cyanide It's really extraordinary in the last couple months. Donald trump has a legalized industrial hemp He's talked about removing marijuana from the schedule one list. He's ended the war in syria He's on his way to ending the war in afghanistan

Real real quick. I mean ending the war in syria is different than us Withdrawing not being in the war and also talking about legalizing marijuana or something like that. No, he talked about it That means he's great. I talk about it all the time. No, he's a super liberally. He's great I mean, that's cool. It's better than not but it's not actual progress He's a republican president with a republican congress whenever he talks about marijuana reform I imagine that everybody in the republican controlled congress again It is a 100 percent republican controlled congress and a republican president and a republican supreme court I imagine they would have no trouble

Accomplishing literally any Trump Trump says, uh, you know, he starts talking about legalized We you start talking about medical marijuana and just from the supreme court from the senate You just hear a resounding legalize it. Yeah You see fucking uh, paul ryan and ran paul put on like, uh, rastafari Yeah, absolutely He has reformed our criminal justice system so that people mostly minorities Don't go to jail for 15 years for a first time non-violent crime of marijuana possession You would think the left would be happy but because it's donald trump

We are against anything that he's for that is not true. Yeah, actually, we're pretty all right with it It's not far enough. It doesn't go far enough. But yeah, I think we're pretty cool with it. That's interesting Because one of the first things is what we already talked about is this is just sort of an extension of things from the obama era that are Are adding on to uh already made progress, which is good. I'm not taking away from it Right alex and roger acting like the democrats are against this criminal justice reform because trump is in favor of it As sort of just a way to cash in on a little bit of credibility or whatever But that's not true The largest voices in slight opposition were kamala harris who said that she didn't think the reforms went far enough

But also didn't want to let her idealism allow quote perfect to be the allow it to be the enemy of good Right, which is a good way to look at it. It's a uh cliche that my high school baseball coach told Elizabeth warren was iffy on the bill because she also didn't feel like it went far enough not because she was against the bill itself It's just there's more we could be doing Literally all 12 ney votes in the senate were republicans The same is true of every one of the 36 ney votes in the house Not a single democrat voted against this bill But I think that's because they hated it so much but 48

Total republicans in the house and senate did so where is your argument there? Your argument is non-existent the the idea that liberals are against this because trump is for it It doesn't hold water. This is nonsense I I I bet there's no way you could look into those republicans that voted against it and find them getting money from private prisons or anything like that I don't know if I can go talk to marco rubio. There's no way that that could be So all that is just nonsense roger son's talking shit, but he's he's not the only one who's Way out of line in this next clip. Alex is trying to get to an ad pivot

But I think he might have started drinking Um, well it is christmasy. It is you might get a you get a taste of a little tipple dad You might have gotten into the nog uh because he's sort of burping his way to this ad pivot In a way that really makes me uncomfortable. We're going to on this live christmasy broadcast Get into trump's mind why he's doing this why he's standing up and how the globalists are going to strike back trump believes You want prosperity? He believes you want freedom? The establishment thinks you're a bunch of idiots We're about to find out what the truth is

Straight ahead with roger stone, please don't forget. We still have store-wide free shipping 50 to 75 percent off store-wide double patriot points at a free t-shirt free t-shirt free t-shirt All the like the sales have been going so well That they are Adding a free speed and a free t-shirt. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This is this is not good So I'm I'm going to suggest the argument that I don't know if he was drunk when he put roger's business in the streets I have no idea But i'm certain he started drinking and it's not just that uh the burping there, which is glaring

Yeah, but you could have been like eating lunch or something like that. Hey, hey He's been eating hot dogs and nachos non-stop. Of course. He's got a burp all the time So, uh, the show takes a bit of a turn Um, and I know that he was saying some pretty gross stuff Especially for christmas eve where he's talking about stabbing Uh, the the globalist and the gut or getting stabbed. They were getting stabbed. He's strangling tan It's a manly thing to strangle. Excuse me. It's weak to stab and very feminine to poison Which is what they're trying to do. Sorry dad

Um, so in this next clip he he decides uh, that he didn't go far enough He's not thrilled with his performance in that first murder rant and he's got to uh, get into another one And he's gonna do it to the sweet sounds of turn the page You know, I don't have a death wish But you know, I'm not afraid to die I had to carry out this mission I get tired when I get old The main thing I want to do is set my weight against the enemy. So I suffocate. They suffocate too. I'm not afraid to die

So when I look into their eyes when they die politically They can know they met somebody and afraid to die And you don't feel much like right because they think they're a snake wrapped around me. No I'm the one wrapped around them and the meek shell and hair at the earth It's not a hold to make sure they never got away when I start squeezing When I started biting When I started giving shelter in the manger up on the stage

All right, roger you were saying some powerful stuff during the break, but some stations don't carry this segment I want you to launch into a roger stone ass grant To really give us what you do behind the scenes at the office What you never do on air in the next segment, but hey, uh, look, uh roger This is usually like station identification for most of the uh, the radio stations that we're on So I'm just going to ramble about uh being a boa constrictor Strangling the globalists and what have you talking about killing them and uh, when we get back I really want you to rant well

So please make it look organic because the radio stations won't hear this one of those things that you never do But it's off air. You're so vibrant off air. Do that when we get back The fuck is this fucking nonsensical murder rant that leads into him singing one line of turn the page Uh, then telling roger to bring it when they come back from break because it'll actually be on the radio So fucking weird and again, we can't stress this enough. This is christmas eve The sacredest of holidays for alex jones spirit of our lord jesus christ. I must tell you that i am a boa constrictor willing to kill I'm going to compare myself to the very thing that satan is compared to yeah

Yeah, in my in my cosmology So they do come back from break and roger stone I'm not entirely sure if he really brought it in the way that alex wants him to But he brought it in the way. I wanted him to and that is to say He makes the claim that he's never lied intentionally on info wars He has never like because you know that whole this is immediately after his apology Well, this is yeah, this is about him settling that lawsuit Of course where he lied about uh miles quack and then had to not pay not you know, I don't want to pay a hundred million dollars

So i'm gonna go ahead and turn tail and run on this sir. I would like 100 million dollars Oh, I totally lied about you. Sorry about that. That's on me, but it was sam numberg's fault So, okay, well then we'll settle this lawsuit. Yeah, um, so he you know He's now gotten into the damage control mode of the apology which is they're saying I lie about things I did not lie which is couched in the idea that he's like sam numberg told me bad things and right I didn't knowingly lie. Right. I was just correcting myself now What's interesting is that this clip is a minute long and within this minute Roger stone will say that he never knowingly lied about anything and then proceed to lie

Seconds later about alex jones Last week you saw an incredible smear stone admits to lying on info wars I never said anything of the kind. In fact, let me make this clear I have never reported or broadcast anything whatsoever on info wars or any platform that I knew at the time I reported it. It was false Smash cut to him telling alex that at the time I reported it Smash cut to him telling alex that general mcmaster is trying to poison uh trumps Diet coax with a slow acting sedative narcotic. He didn't know that wasn't true at the time

He reported it cowardly dodge now When I have made mistakes and every american every human being has I have promptly corrected those mistakes point to one time That was the setup. That was the part of the smear trying to establish that roger stone is a liar I'm proud of the work that I've done here at info wars. We've broken major story after major story I'm sorry that they get p owed at cnn and msnbc and the associated press in the new york times When we're a day ahead of them with the news when we report things before they even know them But that's what we do at info wars tomorrow's news today So what you see is an insidious smear alex and you've been experiencing it

You never said no one died at sandy hook. You never said no one died at parkland high school But when you say that when you respond when you counter punch, they don't cover the counter punch They just continue to recycle the same smear So in that clip he's saying that he has never reported things that he knows are not true on info wars 15 seconds later. He says that alex never said that no one died at sandy hook. Yeah Bad news man. You know that he did you know damn well that he did Because if I worked for alex jones, let's say I didn't know right Let's say I didn't know what he did back at the time sandy hook

If I worked for him and a bunch of people were making the accusation that he Said that no one died and argued that quite a bit on his show I would probably go and check I would look into it I would want to know the truth because if the person I was working for did say that I wouldn't want to work for him and if he didn't say that I would want to be able to point to the things that people were accusing him of and be able to defend my employer Who was a noble and righteous person? There's no way that I would just be like, well, I'll take you at your word You never said it. There's no way the stakes are way too high

So the idea that roger stone is trying to present like I could have plausible deniability that I don't know if it's true or not that you He's not saying that he's saying that alex never said that uh sandy hook was fake and he did They are going to hire the disgrace reporter from der spiegel almost immediately. Oh, man. They are going to hire him Whoa, whoa, whoa. I never knowingly made up those quotes dude. I didn't I didn't even cut that stuff Oh, they weren't talking about him or quite a bit. How well because they were saying that uh, he's gonna get a job at cnm Kind of made the same joke you did Fair enough. I apologize and retract mine

Retract that joke 100% no, they were talking about in there trying to present it as like he was basically only It was only writing fake stories about how uh, white people in texas hate mexican Sure, that's what he was writing stories about They try and create it as like he was trying to Award-winning journalist for german newspaper der spiegel was only writing about texans Well, alex was trying to create the perception that the lies and the fake stories that he uh, he wrote about we're all trying to uh Femant racial division and stuff like that. No, no, no, of course. It's um, that makes sense It's a bit of a stretch, but not as much of a stretch as this next clip

roger stone The supposed russian mastermind Do you notice though too? It is important. He's breathing a lot heavier than he was. Oh, yeah You could hear i'm gonna start this clip over just sounds like darth vader. Listen to this breathing roger stone The supposed russian mastermind There's no proof of it, but Two years in robert moeller the bag man for iranium for hillary to the russians

The man who many believe is the top kgb agent in the united states basically now the fsb Many people is in a giant prosecution against president trump in a desperate attempt to stop us recovering our economy and rebuilding our military the man who had boosted our economy over Four trillion dollars we're now told is a russian agent by people handled by the russians So moeller is a kgb agent probably the top kgb agent in the united states. That sounds right I mean if you were a former director of the fbi and then became an fbi or a kremlin agent Or if you were a kremlin agent that the whole time ahead of the fbi crazy You are the top kgb agent. You're the top agent period. Yeah. Yeah for any country. Yeah, you're not even either

Yeah, yeah, you're your own thing. You're the winner. Um, not none of that is real and the the iranium and stuff We've talked about that a hundred times. That's a lot of bullshit I just I I I get the sense as I was as I was listening to this I ended up having to watch some clips of it I was just listening to it as the the radio show Yeah, yeah, but I had some some stuff ended up becoming so extreme that I had to be like I gotta see this theater of the mind will not do right I had to confirm that he was actually doing the things that he said he was doing which we'll get to in a minute

Okay, but I I I was watching this and I really get the sense that He wasn't drunk when he started the show and he's drunk by this point Yeah, I think he started taking some shots or something like that I'm not sure at which point at what point exactly hard to nail down But he is not the same level of sober that he uh, it's not consistent everybody enjoys a nice christmas bourbon dan I everybody and everybody enjoys a nice little tipple on the christmas eve You know your 14 and your parents are like hey, guess what? We're all gonna enjoy this nice little brandy together my friend

And one of those parents is alex jones and he drinks all the brandy by himself during his show I want to make it clear. I'm not judging in any way. I'm not some sort of puritan new saying don't drink But I am at work. I am I am a puritan. I'm not I'm not even on that tip back when I used to work at group on It was nothing but booze. Oh, well, yeah, but I mean, yeah Uh, or even at that coffee place a lot of booze on fridays, especially that sounds great There's you know, I get it. Do we're people are adults? No big deal I do think that when you're in a position where you're putting out dangerous rhetoric into the world Uh about things that matter

You probably should if you're drunk, you better be right You better have your like all of your ducks in a row right if you're going to be wrong and That sort of fun fun like hey, I'm buzzed. Is this cool? Yeah That just doesn't work when you're when you're carrying water for Uh, you know things that lead to the deaths of people around the world and you're like flippantly Drunk and fun at work. It's not you can't do that. No, because I don't I don't need to say why It's I would hope not it's clear. It's kind of like shackling pregnant women It really shouldn't have been a conversation we needed to have. Yeah

so in this next clip Alex wants to talk economy, baby and I am assuming that he is going to talk about the massive stock Uh drop and how it was one of the worst days since the Great Depression. You bet he is But this is really the big one Because if people don't get this And how obvious it is So there's nothing they won't put up with The latest financial news is up on drudgereport.com

Because drudge gets this is the big story Stocks extend fall despite Moonshine bid to reassure investors moonshine I was gonna say did he just say did he just say moonshine? You would really think if you were in love with donald trump, you would know how to say steve moonshine Moonshine moonshine. You would think you would think he has a crescent chin. Of course his nickname is moonshine

You'd think you'd know the guy It reminds me of how uh, like he couldn't pronounce tim geitner for a really long time. Yeah, yeah, yeah Like it's just one of the geithner. Have you only seen this in print? Like what is going on? Have you seen this in print? Is this a new name? Have you only heard this name and you just don't understand english like the rest of us? Is this spelled like phonetically, but wrong alex alex sound it out man sound it out This is new chin sound it out. I think buckley writes his scripts, but it's all just like, uh, you know, like

phonetics phonetics. No, it's dry pictographs That's what it is I don't know. This is nonsense, but anyway, but to his point presidents get involved in the plunged protection team or the president's group on open markets all the time at the media hyped it like look They're trying to boost the market that shows it's desperate dump dump dump So mainstream media is showing dump stocks. They didn't say I really don't think teach americans lessons They say that and then they think you don't have a memory. They'll tell you in a week. Oh, look the stock market tank

That's trump's fault. Nope. Oh, and he says they're at the end when they did it They didn't do that. They're you're accusing people of thing People doing things they didn't do and the stock market jumped way back up. Yeah So like none of he's just trying to up like All he's doing is being opportunistic about the circumstances that are in front of him right in the moment not taking into consideration That what happens tomorrow might be a piece of the story that you're unaware of what happened yesterday as a part of the story I'm kind of still I'm still fascinated whenever like

We do have those here's the stock market update on Regular news outlets because by this point they should know that the stock market update Doesn't really affect anything In anybody's life and it's all automated and filling time and it's it's built around and now It's it's it's massively artificial intelligence based like nobody knows what the fuck is going on I mean, it's the same thing with like I mean all those news shows even the like local news that have to fill an hour every day Yeah, that's like you still have time you've got to fill and you're just not great at it

That's why companies like Sinclair are so insidious Is because they offer a solution to a problem that a lot of news stations have which is filling that time right? A lot of that stock kind of stuff is is Yeah, whoever's watching doesn't need that necessarily no same thing with weather like most weather reports are unnecessary No, come on How dare you I want to you want scaling out of a job? Yes He is a Chicago staple. I don't give a shit I I have I have a deep-seated reference skilling then you don't have any choice

I have a deep-seated distrust of weathermen. I really think I think that they are uh arch perverts And Well, see here's the thing that's a jump meteorology is something that not a lot of people get into studying I actually heard that Weinstein invented meteorology. It's possible. That's why you know, they're all ready to believe it. Yeah It's not something that tons of people study and the subset of the people who study it who are also camera ready Is a very small group. Yes So these people who are charismatic enough and actually can discuss meteorological things And the weather and not sound like complete idiots reading a script

Those sorts of people know that their jobs are so fucking protected And when they go to cities like chicago la new york those sorts of things and become uh institutions on the news Like tom schiller like tom schiller not saying anything specific about him at all But people like him. I think I don't know if people like him so much as he's just around. I'm saying people similar to him Ah, yeah, oh, oh, okay. Now. I got it. They know that they have the definition of job security So i'm not saying they're doing criminally perverted things I'm just saying That I don't trust that there are no

No consequences for their actions. Absolutely. Why can't we bring in that? You've seen the the topless women Uh, the topless russian women who do the news. I don't we can bring those in I'm unaware of this who everybody's aware of the topless women. Uh, the topless russian women specifically Listen, we're too puritanical for that. We demand that our weathermen do purvy things off air Right on uh, oh boy. So I don't know just the theory Anyway, yes, I agree. Your point stock stuff is unnecessary. Yeah point taken Um, so we have one more clip before everything goes completely wrong on this episode

And this clip i'm only playing because I think it is super important and that is I wrestle from time to time with the idea of what of what we do because alex's Uh, you know, his show is copyrighted. He owns it and there is like a slight fear in my mind that one day He'll just decide to sue us for copyright infringement. Yeah, that sort of thing And I know that generally speaking what we do falls under fair use rules and yeah and things like that But I never want to deal with it. Like I never want I'd never want to open that and I'm playing this next clip I always wanted to represent myself in court. That sounds great pro se I I'm only playing I'm playing this next clip because it's alex giving us permission to use his content

Oh, okay, so let this stand on the record All our stuff's free to air people send me emails all the time. Can I put implores on the side of my barn? Yeah, first of all, it says you can I'm begging you. Please do it We're free to air. I'm not sitting here territorializing what we do plus you have that right Just get the information out. We're doing our best alex. Can uh, can we use your show? Uh, is that tacit approval? Cool Thanks, buddy. Hey, uh, can we ask you for other favors? Like could you please sue us so we can just play that clip in court? I would love that. I just want to get sued for that specific Uh, we're we're using digital copyright millennium rules to take you down and we'll just play that clip in court and uh judge will be like

Judgment in favor of knowledge. Bye Yeah So like I said, everything goes off the rails. Yeah, and I think it's because alex has been having some booze and also He's guests. Oh also by the way, does he talk about christmas? Not much A tiny bit. Yeah, maybe I mean he mentions that he's not gonna have his he's gonna have a rebroadcast on christmas But in terms of like the christmas story What christmas means a christmas message of love or even anything christian at all

He hasn't even really gotten religious. He's talked about devils, which is his version of christian Good point. He's talked about the tarot deck. Right, which is his version of christian I will say that there are a couple times that I I just didn't cut because it seemed like excessive and repetitive But most of the times he mentions christmas at all. It's in an ad pivot. Like it's it's just yeah It's the you know christmas here and you know, you can you know We were not gonna be able to get you the product by christmas, but right right give us money That sort of thing there is very little christmas in this Yeah, but one gift that he gives america is that oh and benjamin is now hosting the fourth hour from time to time

Okay, which I didn't realize Failed uh failed comedian. Uh, no real dumb dumb. No guy who's not welcome in the intellectual dark web No, oh and benjamin. Come on. Uh is now an info wars fourth hour host and boy Wolf is his comedy career doing better now. Great. He's doing great. Good. Um, I'm worried about that Is not where it goes off the rails It goes off the rails in the third hour because before he hands the baton to oh and benjamin He has a guest on the show. It's actually two dudes And these people don't belong on air at all

All they what they have done. I can't even remember their names, but it sounds something like the spaghetti brothers It's very close. Okay, singa singa teeny, bro. I don't know who cares. Okay. Um, the great santini They created a flash game about alex so It's a flash game. They created a flash game where it's you you can google this. It's like alex versus the npcs Or something like that. Yeah, and the entire I watched someone beat the game. It takes four minutes Uh, and all it is is a cartoon a crudely drawn cartoon of alex walking across

Uh a plane, uh, and he has a hatchet in his hand. He's like an axe. Uh, and then uh, somebody there There'll be like a clip of lester holter Somebody on tv saying something crit uh critiquing of alex And uh, you have to hit the button at the right time and it hits them with an axe. Yeah, okay So it's like the plot of air force one if you successfully Axe all of them on the way to the end goal Trump shows up as a the sun and smiles upon you. Oh, it's very fucked up and also probably took them An hour and a half 15 15 20 minutes. I'm gonna say an hour and a half. Yeah, okay. That's my guess. Yeah, um, but because the game is about alex

Your guests on our show and he thinks it's the best thing in the world Absolutely. Yeah, you can do any search for npc versus alex jones or alex jones versus npc You'll find us right there on the on the first page of the video or the game will be available there And the video has to be linked to the game You can search the name of our trump is the sun smiling now. That's a good thing Yeah, I love trump being the sun love trump being the sun. That's great Reminds me of mario where the sun is the bad guy and mario, uh, three. Wasn't that right? Isn't that no well No, which mario game is that do i mean mario two? No, that's not the sun. That's just that creepy fanto

Oh, the sun like the actual sun in the desert world. Yeah, that's super mario three Yeah, where you have to jump over the sun that freaked me out as a fucking kid That's what trump being the sun reminds me of is the evil son the evil son who attacks you. Yeah, yeah um, you gotta say out of his flight path, so This video game which I I hesitate to call the video game because of its simplicity But this game It's alex jones killing people with an axe and he fucking loves that. I don't understand the metaphor there He's taken down these npcs

So with an axe saving the world from and each time you kill one of them A new logo will pop up on the side of the screen of what he has destroyed like cnn or yeah And all of them made sense as it was going along, but then one of them was pinterest like Wait, did alex have beef with pinterest? Absolutely. What's going on? When was the last time you saw a pin on pinterest of alex jones? I'm gonna teach you how to make an apple pie That would be nice. I wouldn't eat that apple pie I would I would watch a cooking show if alex was doing it though my very drunk kitchen

The great fake british make-off So because the video game involves him killing people with an axe yes, he finds an axe in studio And this leads to trouble why does he have an axe in studio? I don't know did he also call that 12 year old and have him kill a piggy bank again Oh, no, that wasn't a 12 year old. That was an adult. Uh, whatever. He was he was talking like it You know what there were similarities in these two interviews because he was trying to impress and hang with that guy Yeah, you kill your piggy bank. Hey, look. I'm cool and I'm young. Yeah kill that dog What do you think about this npc meme guys it's gonna go away

But these guys didn't think that they decided to make a fucking game out of it But he's trying to impress them and so he pulls out his big axe I believe it's a baby a hatchet and this is why I had to go find the video because if you listen to this clip I don't think you'll believe that it accurately describes what is going on in studio Let's come back to our friends There's no one in the studio right now. I don't know where they got this crazy tomahawk What are these doing around the office?

But there's camera five About 30 feet away And the question is can I hit camera five? No framing The problem is I could definitely get it but that lights in my way This is gonna mess up. I don't want to mess up anything But this is the kind of stuff you do on christmas eve Let me see what I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do it. It's all right

Hit the light See, I told you the light was in the way. Hey, I get three chances bring the hatchet back. You are drunk He's in the middle of his show. Wow is he drunk in studio? He pulls out a hatchet. He's like I bet I can hit that camera In my professional tv studio with a fucking hatchet that insanely cheap camera that cost us almost no money And at a time when we are absolutely not begging people for money shit tons of money I am going to throw this hatchet in a metaphor for how I feel about my own show at this time

I wish to destroy the things that allow me to go deeper into this world that I am in It's Subconscious crying for help right there. I feel like there is a bit of that which christmas is a time for that Not hatchet throwing no this is the type of thing you do on christmas eve. Did he say that out loud? He did you know christmas is the time where you throw fucking hatchets at electronics So Jesus I thought first of all when I heard that I was like What what the fuck's going on here because it's so out of line with not only his show Most of the time but the rest of this episode too. I was like, yeah

He's got to just be fucking around with these guys or something right found the video He's straight up throwing hatchets around and it's a real it's a real hatchet. Oh, you bet and it's not small It's a pretty big hatchet. Why does he have hatchets hanging around the studio? No Did somebody get him hatchet? I'm going to allow it because like maybe there's a toolkit somewhere or something like that with hatchets I don't fucking know with multiple hatchets It's not the same hatchet each time. It's one hatchet. Oh, okay good one hatchet as far as I can tell All right, that is way more acceptable because the way you made it sound It was like he had a bunch of hatchet like hey, where did I find this?

Santa Claus bag filled with hatchet. He has a bunch of guns one hatchet as far as I can tell And this is actually kind of it might be out in that video fucked me up two guns one hatchet Did you see that one? This also might be alex's soft launch into trying to get the juggalos to like him by Doing some hatchet play the juggalos would not like you alex So when I was watching this like I said completely blown away By what's happening and then I thought when he said I get another try I thought that someone in studio would be like you've had enough

Alex calm down. Hey, uh, but it does not go that way. He gets the hatchet back and tries again Can someone bring the hatchet back You're gonna do it. Go go back to alex jones. I'll get my own hatchet alex your drug go back to alex jones This is christmas So real quick. Wow. This is this Is that's audio of the game it has that like shitty guitar riff in it. All right So he's flashing back to pictures of the uh video of the game While one of his tendons or whatever is getting the hatchet back for him

And he's probably taken another drink while the camp is off. He's ate the camps if you will. Yes. Yeah, absolutely I can't do things in simulation No, no, you don't approve of it. Oh, no, no one's in here. What's your other room? All right back to me Let me see if I can get camera five now because I was gonna get it. It's a good 30 feet away He hit a TV Because third time's the charm right now with the hatchet. It's christmas eve my god here We're doing good Can't just do this in like the fourth dimension the fourth dimension. All right, this is the final shot

But I can't make it now. I'm no good All right stuck in the wall, but I didn't get it. All right, actually it was all 3d. None of it was real None of it was real. Oh my god. Can we zoom in on that on that tv over there? That is bad ass So he he did hit a camera or he hit uh tv He had a light he had a tv and he stuck the hatchet in the wall The third throw hit the wall and they pan to where it hit It was literally like six inches from a fire extinguisher If he had nailed that fire extinguisher, he would have been a giant explosion in the studio like this is crazy levels of irresponsible

I think that there's something really funny about it. If this is a show like I don't know some sort of shock jock show If this isn't alex jones, this is amazing radio. This is a lunatic Drunkedly throwing a hatchet around a million dollars on a true tv or whatever. Yeah, yeah Yeah, if I if I saw this in a different context, I'd be all for it and on some level I am for it Oh, no, I'm destroying his own things. I I would I this just Broke my heart because god damn it if the best christmas gift In history wouldn't be the headline

alex jones throws hatchet Blows up his own studio. I mean think about it like that'd be insane I mean it wouldn't blow up the studio But it would cause shrapnel like if he had hit the fire extinguisher like the way they pan to it It's clear that the camera operator was very close to where that hatchet ended up hitting Right, so like if he had hit the guy with the at the camera with the hatchet that would have been crazy That would be crazy or if he had hit the fire extinguisher a piece of metal probably would have shot out and hit the Might have hit one of his staff members. That could be incredibly fucked up

He narrowly dodged like a real crisis I would have given anything for him to have hit a gas line And then like just then at the end of the show been like, ah, it's christmas eve guys I think we think I think it's time to light up a cigar Click click click. I just won't like can somebody else get me a lighter. All right Chestnuts on an open studio. So good clothes studio. So good location studio So, uh, he's drunk is shit. He's drunk. That's shit. That's like a level of like whoever's in charge like He keeps saying no one's here, but there are people there

Yeah, which leads me to believe that like buckly or his dad or whoever like normally keeps him in check isn't there Right, that's what he means by that. Yeah, that's why it's okay for him to throw a hatchet around No one's here who's actually gonna get you in trouble. You guys be cool. I'm the I'm the fun guy. I own the place Come on. I'm your fun parent. I'm the guy. Right. Let's have a good time Hey, you guys want to smoke a little weed because I'm gonna throw a fucking hatchet at you. So is that what you want? So But I still think even though there's no authority figure there He went too far

So they go to commercial they get done with this interview and he comes back from commercial And he has clearly been told you're done for the day Info wars has given the gift a thought But you gave us that gift, didn't you? God, I love devil like Christmas snow on the ground. My daughters love that I only had that once Went to colorada like 10 years ago So most of my daughters weren't even born then

I got three dollars God almighty, I'm blessed You know, I've got a special report out there about LeBron James who is a good looking Really talented guy, but he's a traitor against humanity. He's a real piece of crap So he play he ends up playing like a 10 minute Uh special report that he recorded apparently the day before in a hotel room It's it's it's clearly an instance of like whoever is like there and on the level is like alex You're in no shape to be on air. Yeah, you're throwing a hatchet around the studio for no fucking reason. Yeah, we keep telling you

What are you my dad? You could hear while he was throwing the hatchet. There were people who were like And he was pushing back against it was clearly the thing that's like we need to save you from yourself You're done. It's the third hour. Oh and Benjamin will be here to host the fourth hour Shortly just throw it to a special report. That's all you have to do. You got to go to bed Or you got to take a nap or get some coffee in you or something because you you're a danger to yourself and our Show you literally you are a physical danger To everyone here before you were even that drunk you admitted that you told roger to contact assange

Everybody's fine with that. What are you gonna do if we let you do the next 15 minutes? That's kind of the fun of a really awful asshole boss though is whenever he admits to committing treason on air You're like, haha, this is gonna be a good day Yeah, I don't know. So that's that's where we we leave off because who cares about his uh lebron james report It's uh, oh, we don't want to know about his lebron james report a lot of bullshit Oh, we don't want to know about might be racially charged in some ways. No, no, no, come on very relevant to christmas Well, I mean the lebron did uh You know, he got injured on christmas day. So that could be alex is doing could be a uh

He could be the patriots now. He didn't tear his groin though. So that could be It's a double miracle alex gets what he wants, but we also get to have lebron back next week. Everybody wins a little bit Um, so yeah, I mean that uh, this is all to say merry christmas to one and all This is this was crazy because when I sat down, I really expected I fully fucking expected alex To take a day off from the nonsense. I thought it was gonna be all religion, right? I did too Yeah, I thought it was going to be a retelling of the story of christmas Maybe with him misinterpreting something right? I thought it was going to be funny Like him trying to weave around the idea of not allowing immigrants

Uh, well at the same time being like jesus would never have been born if they didn't allow immigrants I would I thought there was going to be something like that a repackaging of christmas mythology Something and instead we get I told roger to contact julien assange We get undrunk and throwing an axe around the fucking studio We get I'm incapable of evil It's just he's so far gone that he is unpredictable on a level that is I know it's it's it's funny If you detach a little bit. Yeah devoid of the world we live in this is hilarious Yes in the world we live in it's terrifying

And very sad It's like if you're if you're an uncle And you go to your you go to your Brother sister's place and their kids are just hellraises and they're throwing shit all around and you're like ha ha ha I'm the uncle. I'm gonna fucking. Yeah, let's get these guys doing all kinds of crazy shit I'm your fun uncle, but if you're the parents you're like This motherfucker has burned goddamn the white house to the ground or it is ruining everything and you're breaking everything You need to stop it or even if you're the uncle, but you guys live in like a duplex

Like you live, you know or live next door or something or live in the same house or whatever Yeah, we have to share an apartment of a country right and uh, it's unfortunate how Not too far outside the conservative mainstream A lot of the beliefs that he's espousing are which is really really scary. He's a Child on fucking christmas eve. This is what he brings to the table, but that's fucking nonsense That I can't do evil speech crazy clearly guilt like that I can't do evil speech is 100 percent his way of expressing how guilty he feels

About all the evil that he's doing which is what you do on christmas, right? I That and throw a hatchet which the thing that's even crazier is like the fundamental premise of his existence is to be basically a christian White wester an apologist. Yeah, like that is what he does. That's what he's done almost his entire career dating back to The days of wake-o in oklahoma city, right, right? Coming into studio on christmas eve and doing some sort of a Fake intellectualized version of why christmas is great Yeah

Serves that purpose and the fact that he can't even get there to do that means he's not having fun with anything No, the only thing he can have fun with anymore is getting really drunk and throwing an axe around his studio And that doesn't bode well for 2019. Nope But it bodes well for me because I still think we're having a great time Yeah, yeah, no, no this is way better than a normal present day alex episode If he's if he starts throwing hatchets as a as a segment i'm in I feel empathy, but at the same time. I also think it's good. It's good radio. So it is good radio. Whatever Anyway, merry christmas alex. Merry christmas alex. I wish you uh

Nothing, I don't know sowing. We'll see we'll see what he does for new years. That'll probably be uh, It'll probably be even better. Oh, man. He is gonna be drunk as shit love to see him do a countdown Oh, we might end up finding out what the secret of 2019 is Oh, shit. We're gonna have to do so many secrets of I can't wait to find out what that is We didn't get a secret of 2018 We didn't but we might get the secret of 2019 because the christmas gift of infat wars is the knowledge of the future That's which we learned earlier. That is true. That's fantastic. Yeah Anyway, does the end of the episode alex committed a crime everybody just in case anybody missed it

It's weird how our episodes work in that like the single biggest news Is that alex mean maybe literally said that he directed roger to commit a crime? Yeah, I mean, yeah There is that the only reason I don't put too much stock in it is that like I do believe alex when he's saying that because it does It doesn't feel like his normal lying right the way he's exactly the way he's expressing that and being like We talked off air, you know, you and I know that I'm I'm not telling your business or something He's defensive about telling it. Yeah. Yeah, it's almost like I don't want to say this If it was if it was uh something that he was he was like, I don't mean to brag But I told you to do this whole thing or if he was like I was there

You know, you were working at fox and you came on to enforce I'll leave it at that right just the sort of thing that he always does the fact that he actually spelled out the I wanted to hire you on the condition that you got in touch with julien assange I mean, it's fucked up. It's it's it's very fucked up. That's fucked up But I still don't know I still don't know where what what Actions alex could or could not have taken that reached the level of crime. It's dear FBI I mean, it seems bad. It seems like he shouldn't be saying that. I don't even think we need it That's not even like a Mueller thing. That's just like a regular fbi thing. Hey

Regular fbi not investigating this shit. Maybe I mean, it fills in some sort of timeline Questions and stuff like that sure does like the idea of when was roger actively trying to get in touch with uh julien assange I mean, obviously alex does know because he told him to I don't know and we know that it wasn't while he was part of the official campaign That's true. So so this is after and presumably after he's been let go by fox news He doesn't have a gig He gets this bullshit offer from alex and then he starts saying I want to help the trump campaign out

Which well, no, that's kind of leveraging his that's unfair even like so he the roger Left the campaign. I believe he quit. I don't think he got fired. I think that was an intentional fake beef Yeah, yeah, I agree. But uh, he left in august Of 2016. I'm sorry 2015. Yeah, um, and when he left Even after trump was saying that he fired him and all that shit roger was very clear Publicly that he still supported trump. Yeah, like all that it some of it was couched in being anti hillary But it was also um, if if the perception was that he was fired

It looks very magnanimous that he still supports trump And if he quit if you believe he quit it looks like he just believes so strongly in what trump stands for that His whole line on it was I wasn't being effective in the campaign. I could help out better outside So he never even though he quit slash got fired whatever like even though that he never stopped supporting trump Yeah, so from the jump In the campaign no matter at what point he was Trying to reach out to wiki leaks whether it be at the behest of trump or alex Which is a weird thing that we now have to consider. I don't know. Um, he was still under the aegis of the campaign

Yeah, he has to be he has to be thinking that he's gonna get a pardon That's the only way any of his actions make sense. Yeah, it's the only way he's he's figuring he's gonna get a Hw deal coursey or a or a nixon deal course He'll take a lot of the heat like in terms of being a lightning rod for attention with his lawsuit against Muller and stuff Roger will uh, sort of slide a little bit the uh, the information will come out. They'll deny it They'll say fake news all this stuff blobby blue. I tried to get in touch with him. Sure. I was unsuccessful x y or z He'll get a pardon because why bring they can indict a ham sandwich. Yeah. Yeah. It'll be something like that probably I don't know or maybe it won't who fucking knows. I have no idea

All I know is what alex tells me and what he told me is he told roger to contact jelly mason so Merry christmas alex As as a special christmas gift alex, please tell us about more crimes you have committed Or throw more axes one of the two that'd be great Throw an x our way at our website knowledge fight taca Not that nice. No, it's all right. Uh, we also have an axe twitter It's uh knowledge underscore fight, right? You can find us on face backs. Yep. You're there. We have a group called go home

Tell your mother you're brilliant indeed You can find us on the itunes throw a throw a subscribe throw a review throw an axe our way, baby Absolutely. Um, so we get to the end of uh, this episode and I will say that I'll say right now The cameraman who got an axe thrown near his way did not kill anybody Did not kill anybody but one guy not with an axe probably He didn't kill a guy technically probably, uh, alex jones could have been two today Thankfully was not alex jones technically probably killed a guy

Andi and chan's us you're on the air. Thanks for holding So alex i'm a first name caller i'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you