Knowledge Fight - #282: April 5, 2019

Episode Date: April 10, 2019

Today, Dan and Jordan discuss the April 5th episode of The Alex Jones Show, where Alex makes a public overture to the QAnon Crowd. Unfortunately, that is a very small part of the episode, which is mostly just Alex being really gross, and behaving in ways that will probably get people hurt.

uh... everybody dan here uh... just wanted to jump in real quick uh... before the episode to give everyone a fair warning about the uh... the content uh... that is upcoming on this episode we cover an episode of alex's show that has a lot of gross uh... stuff that alex has to say about uh... child abuse and a lot of anti lgbt sentiment that uh... he is expressing and if any of those things are things that you're very sensitive about i wanted

uh... to not blindside you with any of the stuff i know alex says all sorts of horrible things pretty much any episode that we listen to but some of it's a particularly gross uh... on this episode and so uh... hey you know you deserve to know what you're getting into i guess uh... anyway uh... take care and here's the episode andy in terms of sure on the earth for holding well i like some of this and call him a huge fan and love your work i love you everybody welcome back to knowledge fight i'm dan i'm jordan

we're a couple dudes like sit around drink novelty beverages and uh... talk about alex jones and indeed we are dan uh... dan jordan when was the last time you watch wrestle mania actually just over the weekend what's watched uh... watched some grappling watch some crap as they say wraps wraps uh... yet a very nice time watched the uh... thirty-fifth uh... wrestle mania and because everybody needs to know my opinions on wrestling

uh... like to give a shout out to a couple of my favorite moments from the show all right now granted i thought that kofi kingston winning uh... the championship was fantastic uh... you know i thought it was great but i knew that was going to happen okay there's no way leading into that that i thought for a second that daniel brian was going to retain the championship after that bill there was such a weird racial overtone to the bill the idea of like vince being like

people like you don't become champion and stuff like that okay that that sort of idea that i i if kofi lost it would send the weirdest storytelling message i wouldn't put it past the wwe lost and then somebody put a maga hat on daniel brian right yeah yeah i would as well might as well call it there guys i wouldn't put it past the wwe but i also thought like if they want to move forward i don't really don't think that's uh... as much storytelling uh... potential

uh... so i i loved that moment and i love the match and i thought it was great but again i expected it uh... but i did not expect was uh... there's this guy named alias okay and his whole character is that he comes out with his guitar and uh... at the beginning of his run uh... he would come out and sing songs making fun of the city that he was in that's fun to get booed so someone could come out and beat him up that's nice

yeah that was court jester yeah yeah it was kind of his thing for a bit and then people started to like him you'd be careful of course he's a court jester so people started to like him he started to turn into a good guy for a bit and that uh... the people who write the show couldn't figure it out and he's back to being a bad guy or whatever but his segment at resulmania was amazing so what he did is he had a video right and there was pre-recorded video of

himself playing piano and drums well that's simultaneously there are two different videos but they're synced up so he could interact with them and then he's in the ring like a david cross h john benjamin bit he's in the ring playing guitar uh... along with himself on drums and piano it's so bizarrely surreal that's fantastic for a wrestling there's eighty thousand people in the arena and they're doing this ridiculous like nonsense musical number

i love it it was fantastic balimania is what it's called now i loved it so much i thought it was absurd that the wwe let him do that uh... and so i really enjoyed that and then he got interrupted by john sena okay was not uh... now he's not a musical fan he's not a fan well little do you know he used to have a character that where he was the doctor of thuganomics john sena was the doctor of thuganomics before he was all about the like military and saluting people and stuff like that his character was he was a

battle rapper and uh... how did i not know this he recorded an album that's actually has a couple good songs on it bad bad man is a really good song marty turned me around i feel like that's a flight of the concord's bit so john sena comes out as the doctor of thuganomics character the hippopotamus and the rhinoceros of flanking him he's back in his old character

it's fantastic he comes out he has some battle rap lines that he says to alias that he beats him up and leaves all right that's good it was fantastic i thought it was uh... well executed uh... enjoyed the hell out of it i love it oh man so anyway i love the iconics love alias and uh... thrill i give uh... i love alias i give uh... wrestle mania four stars go home tell your mother you're brilliant

it's uh... it was fantastic i expected nothing out of it and i got almost nothing but entertainment couple of slow matches that i think they could have left off the card but who gives a shit uh... fantastic i can't believe since i've stopped watching professional wrestling uh... when i was uh... eleven or twelve

even then i never would have expected a full-on musical number that's amazing yeah yeah it was great that's fantastic and the fact that it was so surreal like i just i i tip my hat something else i tip my hat too was that a couple of new donors nice people signed up and are supporting the show we appreciate it so first nobody calls your court i'm gonna uh... next timothy thank you so much you're

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yeah it'll be great uh... the dumb uh... it's my way of being able to get a tattoo that uh... signifies the time of the show and that sort of thing but without ever getting anything that looks like alex tattooed which was the struggle to figure out i should know what uh... just a microphone no it's not specific enough so jordan today uh... we are going over uh... on our last episode we did uh...

april fourth those thursday last week yeah yeah we've got six months to live uh... six months of civilization clout oh that's right we can still live okay it'll just be difficult will be eating cans of undergrounds we went different directions okay i was thinking of hobo bean can you're talking about being a morlock uh... that's what i've always dreamt of so uh... we did that that fourth and i told you that i didn't have enough time to get to the fifth and i didn't intend

to but i also didn't want to right for for some reasons it'll become very clear uh... and i i was kind of thinking about like maybe we'll just dip our toe in and then we'll talk about monday's episode alex is in l a so owen shroyer was hosting on monday so we got nothing to go over on monday all the project came a lot of stuff stinks i watched an episode of david abin mayer and i'm like what am i even doing

it's not even worth insulting this is a terrible show so i love because i can see the moment of realization in your head you're what like thirteen minutes in you're looking and listening to him and you're just going this man is crazy why am i thinking about it thirteen minutes in is not even close it's thirteen minutes in he's still talking about like

churches that he's going to be at he's still doing close to plugging and trying to make sure everyone's in the fucking skype hangout or whatever that's right there's fifteen people that's a very bad so stupid very bad job uh... and so i realized like i let's just do it we gotta do it there's a lot of people who have also wanted us to go over this episode and what i was going to do is i was just gonna go over the part that people wanted us to talk about men cover something else yeah and that thing is

that alex apparently is coming around on qanon and we'll get to that at the end of this episode okay but one of the reasons i i think people are kind of missing a little bit of the forest for the trees uh... there's much bigger issues going on in this episode then alex sort of embracing qanon yeah rob do started a spin-off show called queuing up with qanon i believe you know

uh... he would eat i would respect that a little bit because i would be enterprising uh... that would show initiative to show hustle he'd get a promotion uh... yeah if from me he'd be pjdubs no no no so uh... before alex gets to saying what he has to say about qanon he spends the entirety of the rest of the episode talking about something that i don't

want to go over but we got it and uh... you'll get why pretty quickly imagine a steven king love this song we're all over the western world

convicted pedophiles child rapist and worse disguised themselves as clowns they then called themselves drag queens all disguised openly are given admittance to elementary schools nursery schools public parks

where they then prayed directly on children ladies and gentlemen a group in houston has busted their second convicted child rapist both men were convicted of raping six year-old boys they heavily hit their identities used multiple aliases

but the group mass resistance was able to track them and find out their real identities they're now tracking others i will let you know we're doing it as well boots on the ground so we are just what just real quick alex there at the end says that he's doing it as well so if he gets sued over this eventually then he's saying he's doing it as well he can't hide behind this we didn't investigate sandy hook we just repeated other people stuff yep so that's good to note ahead of time because i

think that what he's doing could end up leading first of all to people getting hurt and second of all to a possible lawsuit so one of the things that i need to point out before we get into any of this is that he doesn't know the details of the cases at all that he's talking about and he's just making stuff up to fit his narratives for instance one of the people that he's talking about here uh... committed their crime at the age of sixteen so the records have been sealed

and alex can't possibly know what actually happened in that case yeah and in the other case the offender was punished with five months probation which seems like not the uh... punishment you'd get from the crime that alex is describing yeah i don't know the details of it and alex can't either and neither can the people that he's getting this information from he's making a lot of assumptions in order to make it salacious to his listeners

that's fucked up beyond that this is not the way i would have chosen to start this episode but i can only really follow alex's lead and respond to whatever he throws in my way in this case we see that he chose to lead off with talking some real gross shit about the drag queen story hour something that will play a major role in this broadcast here uh... from the fifth it uh... of april uh... friday episode honestly i turned this on like i told you my first thought is no no need for

this but uh... there's nothing else to do on choreos hosting on monday so here we are one of the reasons this is particularly off putting is because alex isn't just making things up but he's twisting and manipulating a kernel of reality into something horrendously bigoted to drag queens associated with the houston's uh... story hour the houston drag queens story hour offshoot have been revealed to be sex offenders

and alex is taking this information and running with it to commit a horrible composition fallacy and argue that all of the queens are thus pedophiles and they're out to get your kids there are a number of issues here and uh... just so no one gets twisted about any of this stuff nothing i'm going to say in this episode at all is defending the idea of letting sex offenders be around children

that is at very least an unnecessary risk and definitely is inappropriate in a public library setting for instance that is not what i'm taking issue with here at all i am concerned about this i sincerely am but my concern has zero to do with the drag queens story hour it has everything to do with houston drag queens story hour is not a national organization with the corporate structure where the crew in each city is the same on different dates like the

go around touring there's a uh... there's a central organization with independent chapters that people have organized in cities around the world there's a page on their website where you can reach out and start your own satellite chapter if you want to and it seems like a pretty easy process in march when the first sex offender was discovered the houston public library released a statement in the news uh... or about this news

quote in our review of our process and of this participant we discovered that we failed to complete a background check is required by our own guidelines we deeply regret this oversight and the concern that this uh... may cause our customers we realize this is a serious matter running background checks on people who apply to run events is the responsibility of the venue as is clearly discussed on the drag queen story hours website on the page about starting your own chapter

some venues especially public libraries or schools may require a formal background check as this is often the standard practice for anyone working with children that said we hope this is applied to everyone we don't think drag performers should be singled out for special scrutiny as we have every right to participate fully in our communities so their position on it is we uh... we understand that there will probably be background checks as there should be

for everyone and we are a part of everyone yeah so cool this is the story here it's not a story of drag queens being sex offenders or pedophiles it's a story about inappropriate levels of screening and oversight specifically in the houston public library system the second sex offender that was just recently discovered analysis responding to in that clip also was involved in event uh... at the houston public library

so that's my position on this if alex and his ilk want to complain about this the thing to complain about is the houston library not following their own procedures that is it that's the story plain and simple i i hate it

it's so disgusting to me and i feel the same way about it not the same way in terms of the way it's being used i feel like it's so similar to when a good guy with a gun actually does protect his home you know uh... he uh... old man shoots it would be invader is that headline that you hear all the time and it's like

one time great i get it you're going to try and paint it as though this is what everybody can right and does do right with their guns you know yeah in the same way that's like yes of course because they're people and when you get a large enough number of people it's going to happen there's going to be a certain percentage of any group that is going to have people who are offenders exactly yeah and i don't you could do the same thing for librarians or teachers or coaches you

know like every youth pastors well what you want to if you want to say that you know if you want to say that this is an endemic problem for uh... drag queens it's an endemic problem and more so for youth pastors really that's what you want to do right on the stats on it but that very well may be the case and the other issue too is that like uh... the actual drag queen story our organization doesn't know who all of the people who are participating in the events are yeah they probably are in communication with the person who's

organizing like let's say the seattle chapter of it or whatever and then that person subcontracts out uh... the responsibility of finding the people to be involved there is a there is a gap here in terms of oversight but it it's not a problem with the event itself it's a problem with houston yeah houston has a problem

to paraphrase tom x uh... so now another issue here is that the information alex is working with is all coming from a group called mass resistance which the splc list as an anti-lgbt hate group and from what i can tell there's good reason for that the group was founded in nineteen ninety five under the name parents right coalition or parents rights coalition but change their name to mass resistance in two thousand six quote

when our role is the true resistance to tyrannical government became clear the word mass in their name is short for massachusetts and in two thousand three the messachusetts supreme court uh... ruled that same sex marriage should be permitted and then governor mit romney was reluctant to start uh... fight over the issue which really pissed off homophobes like this group mass resistance yeah who saw equal rights as an expression of governmental tyranny

mass resistance passes themselves off his quote pro family as a group but if you scratch beneath the surface at all or just look at the surface it's super clear that all they really give a shit about is agitating against lgbt rights and access to abortion the uh... they support uh... conversion therapy which they call reparative therapy but uh... they believe that anti-bullying initiatives are secretly secretly just about indoctrinating straight kids into being gay

which is the same complaint that they have about straight gay alliance organizations oh my god their president brian uh... commencher has a weird habit of comparing those who support lgbt rights to nazis like when he said he wanted lgbt activists quote destroyed because they quote uh... would send us to concentration camps if they could or when they would send you to concentration camps i don't know about that i think they'd be more i think they'd be much more uh... uh... benign than that you're right they would be a soft no on it

yeah or uh... when he said quote i saw what happened to the jews in nineteen thirties and forties and much of that same thing is happening to christians now bottom line these people are a bunch of assholes when was the last time he was starved uh... i don't i don't know what his bills are like also in october two thousand eight forty eight-year-old michael olivio an employee of mass resistance got into a little bit of trouble for creeping around

outside west middle school in and over massachusetts and taking pictures of students i'll read to you from the and over eagle tribune this is actually kind of funny i mean it's not because this guy's a creep but the way this plays out if there's anything that's pretty funny on this episode is going to be okay quote police said the incident happened at west middle as students uh... children were being let out of school

as parents watched elivio parked his car got out and began taking many pictures of the school in the students police received a flood of nine one one calls from parents and soon the school called yet a gym teacher tried to talk to elivio who fled toward the high school police said when police called toward the high school well there's two schools that he was outside west middle school and he fled towards trying to get to home base he was like see these guys are almost adults

it's bad for me to take pictures of them whatever uh... okay so he fled when police caught him elivio said he was taking pictures for a documentary and he would and he would not elaborate on it lieutenant uh... james hasham said elivio was ordered to leave the area because police had no reason to detain him further

but then the man began to act radically hasham said after being told to leave the area elivio ran through the yards on shah sheen road and nearby side streets shedding clothing as he ran police said he had removed several items of clothing before officers finally caught him on north main street and placed him in handcuffs i want to see this documentary now

this documentary is going to be amazing quote he was not completely naked hasham said thanks for clarifying so this guy who was working for mass resistance with their argument on it was that there was like a gay straight alliance meeting that was happening at the high school he accidentally went to the middle school whatever even if that's the case i still think you're a bunch of great yeah but but then

yeah i know it would be better if he was taking pictures of high school kids like great guys what are you doing at least he has like this is my uh... like political argument and at least he has that he has no reason to be at the middle school he has no reason to be naked afterwards either that's the other part of that's the that's a problem yeah yeah that's weird the idea of

my coat is weed i gotta get rid of it i don't know i don't know what it is flush it down the toilet no one can possibly know except for this dude this olivio dude uh... so beyond that uh... all that in a november at night to uh... twenty eighteen posts on their own website and i have to stress this their own website mass resistance kind of admits to being liars trying to demonize trans people

our side concocted the bathroom safety male predator argument as a way to avoid any uncomfortable battles over uh... lgbt ideology and still fire up people's emotions well that's that's it's brave to just say the evil shit you're doing and just admit that we made that we made that argument up it's not real we just wanted to avoid these uh... you know the the the argument that we're gonna lose

we wanted to avoid that but still flare up people's emotions we came up with this bullshit that demonized a bunch of people and really i mean you got a lot of people hurt uh... and and made people feel like other things that had been on human things that'd be like reagan coming out in eighty six and just being like hey guys this whole welfare queen thing i made it up completely well i mean it's bullshit you may notice this is like the day after the midterm elections and so it was sort of a breakdown of like where where can we do better what

it and i i don't know why they put it on the website that's very yeah that's seems bad and you know what it's hard not to see that they're kind of doing a pretty similar thing here as it relates to the drag queen story hour mark mark richards is like see now i didn't want to uh... you know i wanted to avoid that a whole uncomfortable murder park so i got somebody else to do it for me see it's completely different and i didn't

want to have a conversation about that so i was off-world the rafters love me exactly uh... that should give you some sense of the kind of dicks who are behind the reporting that alex is operating off of you know we have a guy who ran naked away from the school after the police told him to leave when he was taking pictures kids uh... and the sort of organization that's very willing to on their website say we were bullshitting here

yet trying to demonize trans people while it does appear uh... true that there are two there were two sex offenders who were involved in a drag queen story hour specifically in houston and that is not good there's also no justification for demonizing the lgbt community or drag queens with that information which is that alex is going to proceed to do throughout this entire episode of course

one final thought this is pointless as we know that highlighting hypocrisy in people like alex never really matters but what he's doing is identical to the thing he accuses the left of doing to gun owners when a gun enthusiast goes off and shoots a bunch of bunch of people alex screams bloody murder but i can't blame all gun owners which indicates that he understands that it's not right to apply the sins of an individual to the group that they're

a part of he knows what he's doing is bullshit but he doesn't care because it creates a potent emotional appeal to get his audience to hate the group that he wants them to hate for his own purposes and so that brings us uh... up to speed with what the actual story is uh... it's bad

we can't have a conversation about all these drag well you know people get all angry whenever you start calling people names so what we're gonna do is we're gonna find two of them who are actually sex offenders that's gonna give us a foot in the door to call everybody sex offenders let's put it up on our website linked to mass resistance we're great

so there's a lot of this isn't going to be fun uh... but we'll get through it the best we can uh... and it sets the stage for alex talking about qanon towards the end of the episode which i think is important to recognize all of this in its proper context calling anybody a pedophile is a slippery slope to believing in qanon i think it might be so here's uh... here's our next clip where alex just uh... this report some

stuff and they are organized out of new york city directed in england germany france belgium sweden canada the united states they are commanded by convicted murderers they are commanded

by sinister individuals you cannot make this up yes you can and again when you go to their facebook twitter pages when they're together a party they just look like women but when they go out it's in full disguise he's just talking about like uh... drag outfits like performance outfits and he's also like whatever he talks about like they have multiple aliases

yes they have drag names that's it's part of the culture of the community right it's not like some sort of a uh... nefarious thing to hide your identity as much as it is a persona or whatever it's a part of your identity yeah so um... i don't know that i thought that alex was kind of wrong about the uh... their run out of new york because it was based uh... originally in san francisco uh... and that's where it came out of but apparently the uh... actual 501c3

group uh... that runs the operation and everything is based in new york so alex wasn't offline got a line about that i'm not sure where he's getting this information about the story our being quote commanded by convicted murderers i'm eager to see a source on that uh... but since he doesn't explain i'm left to dig into where he could possibly be getting that information from

also where are how are these convicted murderers giving these commands i think are they out well actually get free i think that he thinks that michael alex the guy from party monster you know that the guy that he's based on yeah i think he thinks mccully colkin right yeah yeah i think he thinks that he's behind all of this okay i don't see any evidence that that's the case i don't know we'll get to that later but i that's one theory that's one possibility because he did kill that dude yeah no and i like that he's expanding

you know everybody's got to diversify their portfolio but if i were a member correctly kill a guy and start drag queen story hour you know he's got two things going on if i recall correctly alex got manslaughter for that like i don't think it was a murderer she's not a convicted murderer but be that as it may let's not dwell into that the only other possibility i can come up with is that he's referring to a september twenty eighteen blog entry on christian

post uh... about how about how franklin graham was against the story hours the blog post includes discussion of hochi mochi a drag queen who describes their persona as quote your resident killer clown from outer space this was also covered all over right wing media including posts on world net daily among other places so it's clear that it's something that alex very easily could

have come across this person whose persona is a killer clown from outer space yeah he's just taking that literally i think it's possible how do you hear killer clown from outer space is my persona and think they're not having fun that's that's syrian seems fun that's that's a fun thing to do yeah yeah yeah i mean you if you believe they're killer you also have to believe they're from outer space

exactly enjoy i can find that ryback's character for a while i don't think it was i can he just like to eat you want to be fed more eight souls or whatever something like that i can find no other indication other than the michael alex thing and that might come up a little bit later and i i actually i don't think that's what it is but it's the only other connection i can make in my mind

uh... even from aggressively anti-lgbt gbt groups like mass resistance that there's a convicted murderer who's commanding the drag queen story hours if i were the people organizing these events i might consider suing alex for what appears to be yet another case of him defaming people yeah like as he needs to defend that assertion that's a that's a claim that's uh... that's something that is not okay oh yeah the uh... so maybe you guys want to do that and he's investigating you so might be a good idea to uh... i think i'm getting on the air right now and you

might also uh... have a situation where that uh... investigation turns into uh... harassment yeah uh... you know you might be doing this to yourself again wouldn't be surprised if at a certain point barns doesn't start sending out tips to people who should sue him through lots of heavy breathing exactly in terms of people getting a little bit violent in their language about the story hours though i submit to you pat robertson he got on a show not too far back on the seven hundred club and he tried the mainstreaming of the lgbt community comparing it to what happened in sodom

and gamora this was the original crime that led to the destruction of sodom and gamora and the united states of america is on a very slippery ground it's not just some library that's going to be in trouble it's the whole population when god brings judgment robertson went on to say quote their men acting like women they used to call them he she's but they're reading books to children

library officials say it fits their version of inclusivity and diversity give me a break if you read the bible there were a couple cities uh... where uh... they actually the men tried to have sex with angels who are male figures and god destroyed those cities so pat robertson isn't sort of insisting that this will bring destruction to all of us if we allow it

to continue which if you think about it that justifies hurting these people or running them out of town or yeah killing them i mean i'm just cool i believe he left out the second part of that story where the father tells the mob to rape his two daughters instead of the angels i think he and i remember correctly i think he remembers that part i think i think he might have

left that part out on purpose and then of course we have james green of texas who got arrested back in february for showing up to the freed montrose library with a gun in an attempt to stop the drag queen story hour his words attempt to stop it he was a self-described trump supporter and claimed he was being arrested after he uh... had uh... you know made a big scene

uh... he got arrested and he said it was because he's a white christian live streamed at all i'm being arrested because i'm a christian can you hold a gun up in the air that he didn't hold it up in there okay just to be clear okay he did you had a concealed carry permit so it's entirely possible that is having a gun is just a coincidence yeah he could just be having a gun yeah but that doesn't mean this dude isn't a real weirdo as a police spokesman explained quote uh... he was previously banned from filming children at the library

has been known to cause disturbances several officers had to escort him out he's uh... much like this guy who shed his clothes running away from a middle school he seems like a bit of a creep himself maybe he's not a bigot maybe he just hates libraries like that could be another maga prejudice right it's it makes sense from my they don't like words or learn from my two-year uh... investigation down these roads i have learned

there's an allergic nest to reading anything that like might be bringing attention to libraries i could see that being part of their motivation you're making me feel stupid burn it down well i have bad news uh... so in this next clip alex uh... boy remember last episode alex kind of seemed to be imagining himself as uh... the christ for a second he was a bit of a messiah messiah head yeah in this next clip he talks about his uh... his role in uh... sort of a

religious cosmology uh... and then i want you to remember that alex likes to say that he's only into uh... interested in non-offensive violence when someone attacks him then he fights them back right see if this matches that uh... that world view you know vengeance is god's cool engines is but god has instruments vengeance

start always twist to the riddle it's a riddle and so the globalists expect to try to terrorize us we're not one of these poor kids you got strung up one of your dungeons we're going to terrorize you like god said because you deserve what you've done to these children to be done to you hot that's christian

i'm just gonna leave it at that but we're hunting you you're not hunting us we're coming for you we're looking for you we're hunting you we're seeking you i think you figure that out now haven't you all your threats and all your crap

it's hilarious uh... stalking and killing people is hilarious you're gonna pay for what you've done to the children i think that that clip especially parts of it we're hunting you uh... all that sort of we're going to terrorize you all that stuff is not going to play well in court like if there's some sort of a lawsuit about this eventually i know that i'm starting to listen to alex jones in the present day

especially through the prism of history like i've already become detached from the president i know that he's probably going to get sued for this i wonder how this will sound it like in a deposition all those clips are like real bad yeah it's not like we're doing present day alex it's like we're doing a twenty nineteen investigation is how well i mean we don't have this place like let's imagine someone

shooting some of these drag queens or something like that like let's imagine a terrible possible outcome of some of this language this rhetoric you hear him saying stuff like this you understand how the how this process works or as alex would like to say how the cow ate the cabbage yeah you know you you see the kernels of

like what is that what is that the the role of like the the radio hosts in rwanda in nineteen nineties early nineties yeah the people who were you know like soaking that really the cockroaches yeah exactly like all this sort of thing you see you know that this is how the process works these people who uh... encourage uh... the quote on quote the illusion of a lone wolf uh... those sorts of people alex has a role like that

i remember uh... growing up reading the bible and hearing jesus say uh... you should turn the other cheek and you should forgive even those who have transposed upon you and god said vengeance is mine uh... the thing that most people leave out of that verse is the parent parenthetical unless you really feel like i told you that i wanted you to commit in which case gather up a posse start investigating and murder if you want there's red text and it says jesus then said this is a riddle

that was this this was also in uh... the hobbit i believe there is the riddles in the dark moment between uh... here's my riddle what is bloated drunk and uh... claims to be exacting vengeance for the lord who uh... steve bannon alex jones oh shit could have been either i was so close uh... so in this next clip alex uh... is in the middle of reading a list of like news articles about uh... you know

uh... but just acts crimes that he's ascribing to muslims and then asserting that these uh... news organizations don't point out that the people who committed these crimes are muslims and he brings up one that i take particular issue with which we will discuss in a couple seconds on the other end of this clip as a roder ham grooming gang survivor all people to know about their

religious extremism which inspired my abusers the independent muslims so that you can hear there from that the point that he's trying to make is they don't say it they don't say that it's muslims the article that alex is referencing as hiding the fact that the perpetrators of this crime are muslims is actually one of the articles that we went over when we were discussing the reality of the grooming gang narrative and how it plays into the anti-immigrant and anti-islam propaganda that's on the rise around the world

well alex is correct that the headline doesn't identify the gang members this woman was victimized by as muslims that fact is brought up in the sixth sentence of the article and is mentioned repeatedly throughout it the only conceivable way for someone to think that they were covering up the fact uh... that these particular uh... criminals were muslims would be to literally not even try to read the article

and just assume that headlines are all that exists now it bears repeating that this article is written by a survivor of one of these gangs her perspective is being disrespected by how alex is using this article from the text in mainland europe conflict surrounding immigrants and refugees has been fueled by stories of women being raped by migrants people have been calling for violent attacks against any muslims and have

declared war on islam if anything rising anti-muslim hate will probably make groomers stronger in their convictions and drive ordinary young muslim men toward fundamentalism, grooming gangs and terrorism this survivor even directly discusses alex's good buddy tommy robinson and his bigot group the english defense league for tommy robinson and his followers to focus on an entire religion based on the

cruel interpretations of some scriptures by some people is unhelpful to say the least most grooming gang survivors i know absolutely condemn anti-islamic hate and we're uncomfortable with english defense league protests we certainly don't want random attacks on all muslims you can't cure harm with more harm alex is pretending that he's standing up for victims of these crimes but in reality all he's doing is trying to demonize the entirety of islam

and the way he's doing it is particularly distasteful i mean really think about this what he's doing is taking the first-hand account of a survivor of the crime he's so upset about lying about it by pretending that that account covers up the fact that the perpetrators were muslim then arrives at a conclusion that is in direct opposition to what the writer a survivor of this crime advocates for

this is an abusive level of non-journalism and uh... just so clearly indicative of what he's all about isn't it called a triple lindy yeah that's what it's uh... it's a it's impressive in its uh... cruelty and uh... in humanity yeah that's that's easy to praise taking her account in in just a bucket i don't care what you actually say of course i just want to use you as a prop well that's because she's being influenced by the globalist because they're must covering up the the fact that they're silencing her

he's giving her a real voice because they wrote her statement for her trying to cover up that it's violent islamic extremists must be that must be the case uh... so here we enter uh... the period of the show where alex is just going to just start rambling about how these uh... drag queens are uh... demons this will go on for a while uh... he will get interrupted by having a guest uh... who's a terrible uh... person from everything i can tell uh... but uh... here this is just uh... a taste of things to come

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yeah like he jumped back and forth between the demon voice and the ad pitch that's crazy like in that in in the middle of a sentence he goes back and forth that's crazy and that voice that he's doing is like exactly the same voice he uses to claim that like women are demons at abortion rallies and stuff like that it's hacky at this point he needs new material

he's like he's like a road dog who has a shit act yeah you know it's it reminds me of uh shitposting or or not shit i'm not sure if i'm getting it correctly you're too old you're too old to have this conversation no no that that combination of very real disgusting uh thoughts being uh surrounded by this ironic sense of of look at how much fun i'm having like listen to those fake laughs and shit like that if you if you just heard

if you heard that was the first one if that was the first clip of alex's that you heard it wouldn't surprise me at all if you were like oh see he's just being an asshole he's he's doing this to like maybe rile people up and you guys are just overreacting because you're all but maybe like because of that that ending like like come on you're fuck off yeah that's weak yeah and it's supposed to be funny right i guess it's supposed to be silly i don't think it is i don't think i i don't know maybe maybe it's just because i

i mean i don't think this is funny period but like i'm not i'm a tough laugh i'll be honest the only thing that makes me laugh are alias's bits at resulmania and i don't know not much else yeah that's about it i'm consistently shocked that people say this show is funny because you do not laugh whatsoever my jokes are terrible i smile what am i even doing here uh but yeah i don't know it's it's an interesting question like do do some people have such bad sense of humor that they think that that's funny

i think they have it may it must be a possibility yeah but i don't think i don't think it's supposed to be for comedy i don't think it's for comedic effect i think it's for like like directly demonizing people and he's trying to make that art like the argument that these people do behave this way right he says it repeatedly throughout this episode absolutely that they snarl and like like all that stuff so i mean it's not if it's a joke then he beats it into the ground yeah that does make sense for him though it's not a joke so uh but it's uh

these people are demons these drag queens are demons of course but what you don't know is not only are the demons they're also a pedophile army that is coming to take us all they have a lot of ladies and gentlemen if there was a army of financed pedophiles in there and their supporters dressing as clowns disguise themselves being given access to children as young as three convicted pedophiles would you want to know about it would you want to stand up against it or would you be like local houston news that laugh and said gotta get them while

they're young a lot of folks are joining the globalist team right now a lot of people are showing the world they're willing to do whatever it takes for their father lucifer to give them power i think that alex probably dodged another defamation lawsuit by just saying local houston news and not saying what he's talking about because no one said that yeah the the only thing that comes close to approximating that is articles that people have written about the idea of um you know upending bigotry by having

uh association with and and awareness and contact with people of different lifestyles different identities different races different occupations even like that sort of thing does lead you to not have whatever prejudice take over in your mind you can't have like let's say just on a very simple level you can't think that all uh construction workers are stupid if when you're younger you meet construction workers who are nice and thoughtful and and kind and that sort of thing you will have a positive association

with uh with construction workers that uh stereotypes won't be able to penetrate and that's the the argument of get them while they're young that's the only place where that argument has ever been used yeah not in terms of like you gotta gotta we need to spread around their experiences so they don't turn into horrible uh bigots yeah what is that quote a mind that stretched to a new idea never returns to its original dimensions or whatever i i don't i don't it can't be that he can't be that obvious that he knows he's

trying to get people killed because what you are doing is calling wait till the end of this fucking episode entire group of people uh an army of clowns raping your kids yeah you're not calling them they're they don't have names no they're not and they're not since they're not actually an army but you're telling people that they are the only thing that the people who hear it think is well if they're an army we have to make our own army right and well you know a preemptive strike because what we can't allow allow them to

rape another kid before we do anything to him what we have to do is get them before they do your way ahead of the thinking but yes that is exactly the message he's trying to put out how can you not realize that that's going to get people fucking killed he doesn't care that's his place in this game he he can he does not condone violence absolutely very publicly denounces violence no but does everything possible in order to inspire violence out of the people listening towards the groups that he targets yep that is what alex jones' role is and you'll see

it reach its natural conclusion at the end of this episode and it's profoundly fucked up and way worse than anything that has to do with qanon well i mean qanon has the potential to be that for a whole lot of other right but the idea of alex saying that he is okay with qanon i think is secondary to what he's trying to do to these people and he's doing it with the help of this group mass resistance and so at this point alex has uh someone from mass resistance on as a guest what are they doing are they they're in massachusetts what are they

do they've stretched they've stretched yeah they're yeah they started in 95 in massachusetts but have since grown into a national and actually they've spread into foreign countries notably nigeria has a foothold of mass resistance yeah because they fucking anti-gay sentiment over there more like ass resistance oh boy um so alex has tracy shannon on from mass resistance and here is her first uh volley i would say in the interview where she argues

i think i think what she's arguing is that the first amendment does not protect the drag the first amendment is not there to protect looseness and promotion of sexuality sexual behavior and ideas are reflective of adult sexual content or and promote sexual does it protect a bunch of men dressed up like demon clowns most of which are are sex workers from having access to children that's right that's right that's not what it's supposed to be for it well i mean like if you if you follow that

line of thought all that's really going on is you disagree with the speech or whatever because it's not of course the first amendment doesn't protect uh people you know sex offenders being around children of course not that's not what anyone would argue but the only thing that she can really be responding to is like i don't agree with this the first amendment doesn't apply here because i find it objectionable and she wants to open that box then of course good luck ever having a church

yeah i mean the the only thing that if they if they want to keep doing this because they always do this reactively they're always like the first amendment doesn't protect this the first amendment does protect this then before we even start with any of those arguments before you start doing this in a single servings if the right wing wants to fucking put down a goddamn list of what the first amendment they think protects and doesn't protect that'd be interesting then we can have a conversation about it line items exactly if you want to do that because if

they did do that then they'd have to realize how fucking hypocritical and stupid they are yeah they'd have to show some cards they'd never do that no i would i would i would love that that's i mean it's really stupid like it taken at its core what she's saying is that the first amendment doesn't allow people to wear clothes that i disagree with them wearing lewdness well i mean what does that mean the wearing a man wearing a dress is is too lewd for you lewd the founding fathers would hate it so you are going to then

bring the force of the government into legislating articles of clothing that are appropriate for people to wear yeah cool and i don't think that women should be allowed to wear pants either well i mean i guess that's implied drag kings probably alex doesn't seem to have any concern about that side of things and admittedly drag queen story hour did begin with just drag queens but his sense expanded out to to drag kings and such yeah but like uh yeah i mean like if you really if you really take this line

then what you're going to do is create i don't know a brutally repressive authoritarian government that has authority over things as minute as what clothes you're allowed to wear oh come on which seems to be something that alex would be horribly against all we want to do is just protect people from lewdness of any and all kinds he's horribly against tyranny unless it's the tyranny that upholds his bigotry and the positions that he wants to be reinforced which is the status quo of white male supremacist uh heterosexual

hegemony but it's just for the kids dan it's for the kids it's just for the kids won't somebody think of the children dan look at them they're allowed to look at a man wearing a dress that's lewd what what what's next uh uh some some sparkly uh eyeshadow oh yeah the government have to legislate makeup too can't do that yeah can't do that then what are you gonna wear your hair up now oh my god that's the devil's do oh yeah everyone every dude's got to be high and tight yeah we haven't have to grow their hair out

so no one's confused yep yep we can't have that also pink the singer gone the singer gone the singer of the color the both oh no the singer is the color oh man so uh in his next clip uh so what what's been going on is that uh uh miss shannon is involved in houston she's or in texas at least and so she's one of the people who's worked on figuring out that these people are sex offenders and what have you which is uh in this case i guess from everything i can tell

uh i guess that what she did is okay in some ways because yeah well because what she did is she uncovered the failing of the houston library system right so if she wanted to take this information that she'd found and demand that the houston library system do a better job and actually do the things that are in their protocols to begin with that they've failed to do great i mean like that is okay yeah but not it's it's not okay to then uh take this and use it to whole cloth uh i guess

attack a group of people uh to commit this composition fallacy where these people are representative of the group as a whole right and then also to sort of encourage almost vigilanteism like uh like because her example is being used as like we all need to be digging into all of these people uh that we disagree with and stuff like that so she's kind of discussing some of that and alex wants to give her money no law enforcement's not doing it don't a mother a grandmother's doing it and and we're doing it unless you're

supporting us it's so critical supporting you i mean i want to talk to you about putting you in charge of a whole nationwide operation because i don't have that much money but i've got enough money i think to bring down a couple hundred of these guys and we're coming after you which which yeah coming after you great again that's gonna play well later yeah you know i i i i guess the corollary for me would be somebody who saw a picture of a cop with his uniform off and he's got white nationalist tattoos on there right and so you report that

shit but that doesn't mean that i think we need to hunt down every cop you know we need to investigate every single cop right the whole point is that there's a screening system although it's not really that the screening system should be the good it should work it should work and when you find failings in that screening system it is important to point those things out because then you can improve the screening system and you then thereby eliminate the problem that you ostensibly are upset about and if you don't focus on the things that can actually make a

difference it does reveal that you don't actually care about the thing that you're presenting as caring about what you care about is attacking a group that's what you care about and and this is another situation what are what do you think happens what do you think the world looks like when you win mass resistance right now what it is you think the world looks like if you if you do whatever your state all LGBT people in camps but they're reparative camps right they're in camps where they're learning to be straight

right uh yeah yeah absolutely about that but that's insane oh but it's wonderful because then they'll be able to enjoy a wonderful christian society once they get outside right where everything will be great there'll be all the streets will be clean uh 20 times as productive as neighboring countries 20 times as productive that are animists right right but of course we'll be declaring war on those countries for their animus beliefs well yeah but we have to we're so productive yeah absolutely we got it

we can't allow them to waste their land that is a dime holding up a dollar and we can't allow it uh yeah no their their vision falls apart pretty quickly once you see you think about whatever they would do if they could but but again it's not all it's not all christian people no these people are using christianity as a cudgel against groups and that's that's that's a specific behavior out of them uh so just to be clear on that lest we fall into the trap of demonizing a group while we're talking

about the demonization of absolutely not no i would not say this lady is representative of 99 percent of the we weren't doing that but it's important to remind people who are listening yeah that they shouldn't fall into those those traps absolutely not um but if they're a member of mass resistance they can go fuck themselves that's a whole different different subset yeah and they should probably keep their clothes on if they're running away from middle school after the police talk and i wouldn't even call them christians they would they would

but so would alex and he was just saying that we should hunt people down and kill them yeah so in this next clip we get a sense we don't get a sense they just literally say it uh that alex and uh tracy both believe that lgbt means pedophile these are some bold folks but from what i know about pedophiles they're they're they're fiends it's like a crackhead they can't stop going after children i think there's just no boundaries there's just no boundaries and there's some arrogance and and

especially down here in use then there's this attitude that you can't even scrutinize us and i think that applies to all of lgbtq community um you know i'm not painting them with a broad brush that's yes you just think the community is now p they're supporting the pedophiles i'm not painting them with a broad brush immediately after saying all of them are this thing right so alex at the end says that lgbt means p which we know what he's talking about right and then she is saying that these people cannot be criticized in any way and i believe that that applies to

the whole lgbt community which seems to apply that you think that this is a subsection of it so that's great yep that's great because that really shows some cards of what she thinks she's working with and working against which is why this ostensibly okay thing which is doing the oversight that houston's library system failed to do turns incredibly bad because your motivation is not fixing the holes in a system or or doing secondary checks or whatever what your interest in is is demonizing uh people in the lgbt community

and that's uh that that means that the directions you're going to go are going to be fucked up as we already see yeah she's allowing herself to be and she's probably thrilled to uh be doing it uh she's being used as a resource for alex um to do his uh is inspirational terrorism basically couldn't she just get like a hobby yeah you know like crocheting is great and i'm not trying to be like maybe she'd be a good carpenter maybe she should try whittling i've been thinking about getting into cross step yeah see now that's a great idea maybe

instead of demonizing the entire lgbtq community and calling them pedophiles she could make a shelf yeah i'd be nice i'd probably get into pilates if uh if uh it weren't so goddamn expensive take up but it take up as much time i'm doing these classes but they're free with the membership at the gym and slowly running out of free oh yeah and once they're not free don't think i'll be doing them anymore i don't know how people afford it it's super expensive so anyway

tracy shannon is a member of this mass resistance and she has been particularly involved in their work against the drag queen story hour in october 2018 she filed the lawsuit trying to get all the story hours stopped claiming that they violated the establishment clause that lawsuit that lawsuit was dismissed yeah because they did because they violated the establishment clause whatever all right that lawsuit got dismissed so having failed to make any progress in the legal system it appears that she switched tactics and decided to walk into the realm of

propaganda and smear campaigns judging by her twitter account before she got involved with this hustle she was basically just an angry trump fan tweeting out everything uh that's in line with the me that media sphere's narratives interestingly she seems to retweet almost everything charlie kirk tweets which is an impressive level of sad she's in love i was gonna dig in and try and find out more about her but after seeing this little glimpse and remembering that she's involved in a group that literally admitted on their own website

that they make shit up to demonize the lgbt community i realized there wasn't much of a point in looking into her more we kind of already got her we already know everything we need to know here we we don't know her but we know her yeah so as they continue talking alex has some thoughts about houston uh and their mayor in specific naturally don't worry tracy the the the cavalry's on the way thank you we can use it here and everywhere well have you noticed how much have you noticed all your mayors and you know

obviously this is a bad person uh he's probably been compromised i mean obviously more ways than one from what i know from law enforcement well i'm going to stop right there um people are looking at the super bowl i'm just going to stop right there but oh yeah we know everything basically they know everything basically about what um silvestre turner the mayor of houston uh i guess i don't know anything about it so alex is implying that silvestre turner the mayor of houston since 2016 is compromised and that's why he's supporting the drag queen story hours

and the lgbt community in general in order to make this claim he brings up the 2017 super bowl which was held at the nrg stadium in houston there's a little scandal around that super bowl as turner used taxpayer funds from the uh from houston first the city's tourism board to pay for himself and 16 guests to attend the game however that story was reported by houston's abc affiliate approximately a month after the super bowl so i'm not sure how that could be used to blackmail him that's just like a sort of a like a a foible and uh you know it came out and

did he have to like pay pay it back and all that stuff no i think that he uh and as i understand he was able to be like rationalize why these people got tickets and it was just sort of something people like that's malfeasance and he's like meh and everyone moved along i think it's standard fair government corruption yeah i'm not for it i'm not for it but it's not enough i think that's the corruption where we're like you're a scamp i think but uh you know what we're 50 50 on doing it ourselves if we had the chance i'm not ignoring it if i lived in houston i might be more upset about it

oh i'd be pissed it's not grounds to make the argument that he as your piece of evidence that he's uh compromised in some way and we live in chicago you think you think that he'll hold the candle to the bush that goes on here come on man so i have my suspicions that what alex is really doing here is he's trying to attack the sincerity of a government official who's changed their position on lgbt issues in 2005 turner voted against allowing gay and lesbian people from being foster parents in 2003 he voted to ban same-sex marriage

as recently as 2013 he quote voted against a proposal to gather statistics on bullying institutes uh incidents based on sexual orientation and gender identity which was part of what got him a derating from equality texas however he since changed his tomb and as of uh 2015 he has an a plus rating from equality texas and has been a vocal uh advocate about supporting complete equality really yes that is a that's a win turner has said quote i think many americans if not most americans have evolved over the last 10 years on lgbt

issues and i include myself in that group people evolve and i think that's what we want people to do that's one explanation though a more cynical reading may be that in 2015 he was running for mayor whereas before he'd been a state representative with a 27 year tenure whose position was far less vulnerable to having shitty positions so there might be a little bit of a cynical explanation for it or he might be sincere i'm not entirely sure whatever the case alex can't allow the possibility to exist that someone was anti lgbt

right then learned more heard about the issues talked to people most affected by those positions and then decided to change their ideas and their positions that's threatening to his worldview to so to assuage that fear he has to introduce the idea that anyone who comes around to supporting lgbt rights is most likely being blackmailed it's a really dumb idea but one that's low-key far more dangerous and insidious than it might first appear like that clip you could probably breeze past it the idea that call he's probably compromised or whatever but what's behind it i really do

believe is the fact that he changed his position on that these issues yeah he's trying to inoculate his listeners from the idea that you can change the idea that you could listen and that would make you feel differently right instead it's because they're brainwashed or they're blackmailed or you see this person who did yeah you're like well maybe there's maybe there's maybe something i should be listening to maybe i should try instead you just replace that idea with no no no no no this guy is not an example of someone learning more it's someone who

is blackmailed it's weird yeah you know it's like i voted for this guy for you know over and over and over again to be a state representative and he was really anti-gay and then he started talking to people and changed his opinion and i respect him so maybe i should try to talk to people and change my opinion nope he was blackmailed okay then never mind i hate him now and i don't have to think about it ever again so you might be questioning kind of i mean not the that idea because it's stupid but you might be asking a little bit of like how does this blackmail conception work

like what is alex actually talking about what's this pipeline of of blackmail and thankfully i think he was just blackmailed by the nfl right no oh in this next clip alex spells out what he thinks goes on and this is ludicrous so when they've taken thousands of hits of x taken all this ketamine these guys are just vessels for the avatar and that's what our research shows that they're gone research so yeah he's describing gay people uh taking tons of x and ketamine and stuff like this especially people who are at the clubs yeah of course and

so then they become so whacked out from all of those drugs that they've taken that they're not even there they're a vessel for this entity this demon entity to come enter them right and that is what his research has shown so his research has shown that uh the lgbtq community takes thousands of hits of ecstasy yeah in in what in i would assume a short period of time yes in order to become vessels now for demons yes now that only makes sense if you do accept that they died horribly from overdosing and then a demon actually implanted themselves in their body

this is why alex doesn't like walking dead but it doesn't make any sense because you said that the gay part was because of the demon not so so are they not gay anymore after the demon takes over because the demon is them i'm not sure you know i don't know like who's who i don't know who is gay i don't know anymore is anybody gay or we all demons this is after alex has played a clip of uh uh the uh the party monster guy so uh i think that that's what he's operating on that's who we're thinking about yeah i think he's using some of those uh those ideas right or ideas about that guy to inform all of this

stuff because he did take tons of drugs yeah no absolutely um good on him i don't know about good on him but uh well i'm for certain parts so at this point we have the conception that these people do all this x they become empty vessels demons come in and here's where it goes from there they're they're they're they're demon possessed cool and they want kids that's the energy and i'm telling you folks i've studied it is what they're into and then they get mayors and other people corrupted and into it then they blackmail city officials and their armies of of of of of sex workers and then once they blackmail you then

this is what they do and then they take control of your city and then they say well what do you want we want access to children so that's the that's what he thinks is going on they're a bunch of uh of lgbtq people who are doing tons of x and they become demon possessed these demons want kids so they blackmail mayors and then uh the mayors have to go along with it and they demand access to people's children but by the big but a boom we end up with a drag queen story hour so is this the demons plan i don't fucking know it's not real it's not real i'm just trying to figure out who's playing this is it's alex imagine this is a

bad plan yeah it's stupid we're praying on so in that case in his even in his own telling lgbtq people are the victim of demons they're not bad people alex is fine with that probably yeah but you'd still want them in a non demonizing camp in a non demon or a dd but d demonification we gotta we gotta protect well maybe all we need to do is just keep ecstasy out of people's hands maybe he just really wants us to libertarian he's in favor of drug well then he's in favor of demons he is that's it we figured it out so in this next clip tracy i think shows too many cards and uh i hate people yep it's pretty close

it's all inappropriate even if we didn't find a pedophile convicted pedophile this would be inappropriate it's we don't children do not have the job to validate adult choices adult behaviors and adult identities but if that's their identity they need to get comfortable with it on their own and don't drag children into it you showed far too much of your hand when you said even if we didn't find any just right sex offenders then this would still be bad yep no because the story that you're

telling is about the sex offenders yep that's what you're trying to make the point you're saying even if we didn't i would still be fucking furious about this yep second thing these drag queen story hours are not about validating these people's choices or lifestyles or identities through children what it is is about representation of people of different identities different uh uh lives uh the kids seeing these people and not thinking that they are something crazy some sort of booradly entity uh to be

afraid of and run past uh that sort of thing it is not about validating those people it is about helping the children not develop into being dicks here is what they are furious about representation human being disability putting on clothes and reading dr seuss to children right when you boil it down that's what's going on it's not representative uh you know for it's only representative because of your opposition to it right if it weren't for the fact that lgbtq people

were so marginalized this would be nothing right you wouldn't even care because it's just part of it's just another person telling a story right the only thing that's indicative of you being angry about this is that they are already and continually marginalized yes that's what's going on yeah and all and all you're doing is fighting to maintain the status quo that existed before which is these people are invisible they don't they don't deserve to be seen in public and if they are they should be treated with scorn uh and derision

yep and any child who feels like you know they i might be i might be inclined in this direction should be uh taught to be ashamed of it and uh yeah uh you know probably hate themselves and commit suicide yeah or will yell at them and then pretend that we tried to help yeah and what she's what she's literally saying is i don't care if anybody is a sex offender the only reason i investigated them was because i was already offended by them wow i'm no i am actually stoked that we found a sex offender because now i get

to she's excited that they found a sex offender right the only reason i was looking into it at all is because i needed more ammunition for my shitty argument because the court threw out my original one exactly yeah exactly yeah that's bad so after she leaves alex takes a turn um for the dark uh this is not good this is a short clip but it's indicative of what's coming up this is it really fucked up drunk on the blood of children the antichrist is

is it and you look at these i mean if you saw people walking on the street you recoil they're i can't even make the faces they make because they're so demonic but it's just like a let me have time with your children now give me your children give them to me now you will give them to me or i'll call you racist i don't know what happened but about this point in the show is where i think alex really was like i'm going for it yeah i'm going for it

yeah i've already said a bunch of horrible stuff i'm playing on borrowed time as it is yeah yeah you've got the i've got the sort of damocles over my head in the form of multiple lawsuits i'm just gonna fucking swing for the fences six months and the whole thing is going to be over anyway i'm going to be as gross as i possibly can be right so there we go this is i mean he's using blood libel ideas drunk on the blood of our children that sort of thing this is classical anti-semitism whether or not it's directed towards people who are jewish is still the

same ideas that have been used to demonize jewish people for centuries uh and uh that we all we already know that's a part of his conception of the bad guys uh which isn't good um now here's where alex explains what he thinks the drag queen story hours are for because he believes that there is a it's it's not about literacy and acceptance and people seeing each other as people that sort of thing no no no no it serves a role recruitment well not really okay that that might be what mass resistance

says okay alex thinks it's something far worse that's an inductee right there he's talking about one of the sex offenders at the houston one yeah he's an inductee that's rinfield a demon posing as a woman a woman that gives life that nurtures babies and these poor babies the last thing they see when they enter hell is men dressed as women have you been the last thing they see is they're hacked up and torn into pieces and as their blood is that in the bible slovenly

licked into the mouths and no men will stand against them and when the men watching the show stand before god god's gonna say i don't know you not how that goes because you wouldn't protect children from pedophiles dressed like clowns that's how it goes down that's how it all ends that's who

wrangles your children into the trucks into the vans and they want your children not to run when they're in the disguises and the van pulls up they wouldn't have already been at story time five or six times so they've learned to stop just long enough to be grabbed off that front yard because the kid didn't listen mom's asleep inside she worked two shifts and it's like you're in the van now bye bye you're in the van now come on over here georgey oh your boat i got your boat right here so he's descending deep into a uh it uh penny wise fantasy

i cannot tell you how funny it is i feel bad for that mom i've been worked two shifts the struggling bad economy yeah that's tough i don't know why you needed to include that as a detail in that fucking gross fantasy of his i mean she's you know you gotta you gotta represent a wide swath of the where's this deadbeat dad in the equation that's what i want to know well he was he went up to heaven and god was pissed off he was like you didn't even protect people from clowns i do not know you get out of here get on down there so watch out say hi to the two dudes wearing dresses when you

get down there as you can see from alex's conception he believes that the idea of this drag queen story time hour is in order to make kids not afraid of the people who are going to throw them in vans later which is fucked up that is so fucked up i mean because it's just the way of repurposing what it really is it's a it's a way of reframing the idea of acceptance and and uh embracing people uh and making it sinister which i guess is kind of what he does all the time but uh it's so over

it's yeah and the correlation is so easy uh or the the connection between reality and his lie are so easy to see that it's just it's it's so fucked up and then when you attach it to demonic ideas and the idea that they're only trying to prepare your kids to be kidnapped how else are you supposed to respond to it like you said earlier in the episode then like we have to stop them yeah obviously this woman for mass resistance this tracy shannon she tried to do it through the court system you can't do it they they it's not illegal for these people to do this thing

what do you do you gotta do something gotta stop them you gotta do something well that's that's what they're that's what i was missing i i didn't realize so i thought that they were thinking uh you know like a preemptive attack before they hurt kids or anything like that they're actually saying that the reading itself is the attack well alex so they're yeah so just my doing that might also say but i'm not going to lump them in necessarily because they're right so they still think it's a a a defensive strike yeah

alex the attack is just them being yeah they're grooming they're grooming these children in order to be ready to be picked up in vans later right so yeah absolutely you you would get it in your head that it is defensive it's an it yeah they're attacking us and it is not no so this next clip's a little longer uh but it is what i would describe as absolute insanity um i know that alex is somewhat performing but also this is not like this is there's there's something that he's tapping into that is deep seated within him and it's incredibly gross

there's some blood libely ideas in here too again but this is just absolutely ludicrous you didn't know that steven king is a good pal and he doesn't like president trump and he doesn't like me wait he's your friend and he doesn't like you can write all those books about what goes on down there with the clowns the clowns that torture your children to death for a big fat spider see if the clown's just a angler fish it's just a finger

of a big spider it is not the name of the clown and it's since it's not at the cloud georgi sit on my lap georgi touch my beard georgi and georgi it's a free world universe stick your hand in this dark hole georgi and i'm gonna show you that you'll float and they all tell you it's their religion they're going to catch they're gonna get them with vaccines they're gonna get them with fluoride they're gonna get them with gmo they're gonna get them with the culture

they're gonna get them with the iphones all because they couldn't kill them before they were born or right when they were born but that's even better you see let a child grow a little have some love have some parents and be a good little person and then they can get them in a dark pit oh and then it's so good the energy these demons suck off your child it's so much better than just giving them cancer because you know the parents are there when the child's dying from the cancer from the vaccine and so they still have love and it's just not as special

but to have them in those dungeons all alone and then all the guys in clown outfits pull back when dracula comes in and they're looking their lips and they're scared of dracula a lot of them got abused by dracula and but they're still hoping for a little bit of that blood and then dracula goes in there and rips that child to pieces and drinks that blood and takes their guts and just eats it and then leaves and then the vampire minions just run and just lick the blood off the altar lick the blood off the altar and then dracula's women come in all the porn

stars and all the sexy women that want to live forever and they come in and they just eat little pieces of their feet and arms and they revel in the blood and have sex in it and call for the end of humanity the end of god and just pray for lucifer to enter their bodies and they're launching their full attack against you now so take your vaccines take your gmo watch msnbc watch senator bloominthal their leader yes i see you bloominthal i see you i'm not entirely sure what bloominthal's involvement in this is except for he doesn't like trump

ah here's a round and he uh you know he's out of new york and uh there's the uh sort of the abortion uh conversation going on there so i think that might be what he's relating that to but that's fucked up because i mean we're already in a situation where alex is i mean really he's really targeting people here like i really hope nothing happens to bloominthal but after something like that i don't know like he's doing this long extended diatribe about them wanting to take your kids

and bleed them for sustenance and then dracula will eat pieces and like i bloominthal is their leader yeah what the fuck there's an alternate universe where he is the single greatest trauma filmmaker in the history of america that shit is he really got into the narrative of it yeah yeah but you know what if he made that into a movie i bet trauma fans would fucking love it yeah i mean that's sure that was the plot of manos the hands of fate right i don't remember i don't remember the plot of that thing so i mean that's that's really uh bad the that is incredibly incredibly bad

yeah uh it's gross it's it's laughably offensive about the people he's talking about yeah um and really what i'm more interested in i'm i'm less i'm less interested in uh like being like well what he's talking about here is right right we all know that there's like blood libely aspects to that and then alex is just weird um sort of fantasies about demons around every corner and his inability or unwillingness to understand anything about uh fiction uh like it yeah the clown right which was i believe the full name of

the the book right the movie was called it the clown yeah um i'm less interested in that and i'm more interested in the real world effects of this and that we get to see almost immediately when alex starts taking calls here is a caller um who uh starts off his call by talking about democrats and how they're all criminals of course we'll see where this goes let's have fun and let's be honest why is the left so allied with criminals fun they are criminals and i think the reason they're so petrified of trump is he's gonna he's

attempting and will shut down a worldwide thousands year long probably criminal enterprise so i totally i got all this mainstream news about the islamists with the u n bringing in hundreds of thousands of sex slaves i mean it's just exploding the criminal activity and it's been their way of life since before you and i were on the planet and now it's coming to an end and they're kicking and screaming and wiping feces on a wall trying to they're not gonna know what else to do it are not going to be

employable so this guy is expressing that there is a thousand year uh criminal operation that the democrats are in and they're afraid that trump is going to blow that up right this is an interesting idea and it'll come into play later trump is finally taking down the night's templar perhaps about time but this caller after this uh the they get into talking about the drag queen story hour and he has some thoughts about it i bet they're great well mic down for this oh boy that that doesn't

bode well this is bad and then also listen to how alex doesn't push back against his ideas that is very important to alex playing his role as the inspirer of terrorism while keeping his own hands clean one thing you say that i like is you don't need orders from headquarters well a civil a civilian a parent or a legal guardian doesn't need the police in my eyes i'd be in the cop to go to the school and grab that drag queen and drag him out in the parking lot and dispose of him if you're in that school and you're in

kid'sness and somebody's not stopping it i should have the legal right to go in there and and put you down and without repercussions well the bottom lines we're gonna run their plates and we're gonna we're gonna follow the law and we're gonna get them god bless you dog he doesn't say how dare you you're at you have now on my show twice in two sentences or maybe even one run on sentence said that you should have the legal right to murder these people because you disagree with their lifestyle with their identity however you

want to frame it whatever it is this guy and i don't know if you caught that he's a cop he believes that was some good unison talking there he believes that he should be able to go in there drag them in the parking lot and kill them where did he say he was from i don't remember because that does seem like something that should be reported and he should definitely be yeah he should be taken down it that's crazy at very least at least no no no at very least alex has a fucking responsibility to be like

and he's like you know we're going to run their plates and follow the law whatever no he has a responsibility to say absolutely not you do not have the right to kill people absolutely just because you disagree with him but he can't because earlier in the show he said that they want to prepare your kids to be thrown in vans and they're going to drink their blood and feast on their flesh right that sort of thing can't exist in a moderate world it can't exist in a place where what you're prescribing what you're

advocating is let's follow the process and make sure that the library is actually going through with the background checks that they're supposed to be going through so we can make sure that whatever potential damage or whatever potential possible damage is mitigated because like these people of like the houston library also put out a statement that was like we fucked up you know all that stuff we didn't follow our own process but in that same statement like we already have in place whenever there's

anything that has to do with kids any event with children nobody is left alone with children ever already yeah there were no complaints about any of these people there was no incident but we were not using that as like a way to say we didn't do anything wrong no absolutely not but there you know we have other safeguards in place but still but still they the the the conversation that alex is having cannot involve the correct conversation it can only inspire people like this guy to feel entitled to murder people and i i think the same issue

is occurring uh the whatever precinct he's working for uh doesn't have screening is a former cop well whoever doesn't have a screening process in place to keep these people from being anywhere near law enforcement yeah i i don't i don't or if they do that didn't go well i think there's an entirely also possible world where he's not really a cop and just says yeah that's entirely he's an alex jones caller yeah that's true the only thing that's sincere is his desire to kill people he wants to kill right god without consequences i think it would i

think what should happen is i should be allowed to murder because somebody read a story to my kid while wearing a dress that should be written into law that it's fine right yeah that's a that's a that's a that's a tough precedent that might be that might be difficult to uh to slippery slope around yeah that would get unwieldy real fast so whenever we talk about a lot of this stuff like uh you know taking it quite seriously throughout this episode the things that alex is is putting into the world the the ideas the the rhetoric that he uses

one of the reasons is because it exists with this this caller being on the show is not a surprise to me the caller expressing ideas like that is exactly what you would expect people who internalize and believe what alex says to hear from what he's saying so whenever you are saying earlier in the episode when you hear this stuff how can you not think you should kill these people because they are going to only they're harming your children why wait until they actually do the thing that

you're afraid of you because then they've fucking damaged your child yeah why would you wait for that to happen you need to protect your child oh yeah you know i think whatever you say stuff like that i think that people could hear you making a leap that is uh inappropriate or something like that but it's not because all we have to do is get to the end of the episode when alex takes calls from his listeners to hear them having that exact same thought but not being afraid of that thought

thinking it's the right thing to do yeah so what what i'm saying is uh this this is just the worst yeah this is the worst and and again it's stupid to point out hypocrisy but i think if somebody called in to fucking our show and was like whenever you know what when trans people hear that kind of uh rhetoric from somebody they should have every legal right to go and kill that person because the end result of his behavior and his language is going to be the murder and

harassment and abuse of people in the lgbt community so the attack has already been made it's only right for them to get murdered the law should recognize it we wouldn't accept that of course not we would if we had the right we would go insane if we took calls and someone did call in with them we would probably hang up on them and then spend 20 minutes discussing why that's not okay exactly just the responsible thing to do because if if someone calls in your show and expresses something like that you have to recognize that that's a symptom of a major problem yeah and that problem

is something that you have a responsibility to deal with because you are putting out the ideas into the world that's making people think things like this so you have a slight responsibility i believe to take a step back and have a bit of an educational moment where you can be like guys things have gotten a little bit out of hand people are i know i said that they were drinking blood and i totally think that's true but we live in a civilized society and if somebody's drinking blood you can't just go around killing them it's almost like

a thing where you got to be like guys this is getting out of hand now i intentionally made it get out of hand it's why you can't do like why alex can't do that yeah of course not and one of the reasons that i'm very afraid of the idea that someone's going to hurt one of these people or kill them at any of these story hours is that we have a clear example here of someone thinking it's okay to express that on a radio show on a national radio show the discourse is so toxic and so dangerous that that

isn't an idea that alex even pushes back against it's not like when he comes back from break he's like wow that caller said something pretty wild shit huh guys all right we're gonna move on it's just allowed to exist as something that isn't taboo it's not something that is beyond the line yeah and so the idea that someone might think like that so maybe i should do this it seems within the realm of possibility to me and if that does happen i do hope that alex gets sued

again like i know that when we started the show two years ago i very insist i was very insistent about the idea that i think that alex is uh you know he's on the right side of a lot of laws oh boy and that has changed that is not the same i do think he still was on the right side of it years ago a while probably yeah he is not any longer man and that's and we know we know that hate crimes have risen steadily if not exponentially didn't see kandace ellen's uh testimony since

trump and they feel so energized and excited that it's almost it's less uh possible and more fucking probable at this point that we're going to see a crime it feels a very real assault at it feels that way yeah but we can't predict the future it just seems rough it seems rough yeah so that same caller uh he you know he brought up earlier that there's this thousand-year criminal racket that the democrats are running right um the democrat that's right the democrats have been running a thousand-year racket

right what i guess it's the globalists whatever what were what did they call themselves uh the jackabins i think that was before the jackabins even uh yeah yeah a little bit no shit alex's stupid ideas about like where liberalism sprung from it's even uh more recent than a thousand years whatever i don't really care to engage with that i only think it's important because it is another it's a teaser you hear that sort of an idea and you're like oh this guy's into something fucked up it turns out he's into q anon and so he brings up q anon

and it leads alex to clarify his position on q anon love it and remember this is the same guy who said that he should be able to shoot a drag queen who's at a reading at a library because he disagrees with them uh and he shouldn't be punished once again it is a person not a surprise it's a person wearing clothes reading a book not a surprise that that sort of idea is expressed by someone who's into q anon also not a surprise alex changes his tune uh and is now into q anon well i'm not bragging about this but when

murphy or blimeth all talk about me they visibly look like they're scared i like that i like that well they should be scared man and one thing i was going to say about q he had a quote on there one time that said uh there'll be a time when it is not safe for these people to walk the streets anymore and i gotta tell you what they're doing with kids we know it so let me say this about you i got manipulated by somebody close to me that i'd learn was bad the q was bad there's some fake queues out there but the main queue is right and i mean the whole apology about it

because what they said about uh muller starting to come through and i have to actually crow i just haven't figured out to do it yet that a large part of it is accurate it's tough to eat crow uh all those bones uh so the uh the issue here is i think what he's saying is corsie uh led him astray that's probably trying to blame corsie that sounds right uh because uh gerome corsie was super into q anon he was decoding all the messages and stuff like that he was writing a book about about q anon and then q anon started saying that gerome corsie was

full of shit uh that gerome corsie turned on q anon of course there was a whole uh whole nonsensical back and forth there and i think that alex is referring to that or it's possible that it's steve pochenek those are the two possible uh people who led alex to be against q anon to be against the fake queues well no he didn't know that there is multiple queues or something i don't know yeah i don't know if there are but this is alex's way to be able to uh accept the bigger picture of q anon with still being able to say like no i don't

believe that yeah anything he disagrees with or is inconvenient for him the real q right yeah yeah yeah no that's exactly yeah absolutely and i suspect it's really more of a marketing ploy than anything else it's a clever little trick because it it really what it really means is you're saying absolutely nothing yeah you know i'm going to say that this i'm going to say the exact same shit that i did before yeah i'm only going to attribute certain things to q and whenever i want to and then a caller can call in and say something stupid and i'll be like yeah that's the real q but i think alex

also is probably signaling on some in some ways that he's come to a point where he realizes that there's a very real possibility that the q anon audience is bigger than his yeah and he needs to get in some of that i don't know exactly because that's all that is said yeah like that's all he said that he needs to eat crow but he hasn't figured out how to do it yet so we can assume that that's forthcoming at some point that he'll do a big message about his exact position on q and on and when that happens i'll look into it and we'll discuss it more in depth

um but as it is now i think there's some dangerous possibilities with this like the idea of that uh and alex working in concert more than they have been up till this point could be fucked up it could lead to some some pretty dangerous trends um but we have to see how it plays out at this point i really don't think that there's much to go on because it is just that clear yeah he's blaming steve pacanik or coursey for turning him against q anon and now saying he's going to clarify later i don't know but i i bumped out by this just on a personal level

because it's weak but then secondarily because now i got a fucking look into q anon i didn't want to do that uh i'm pretty stoked i still don't have to if alex is teaming up though yeah there's so much back research i've got a yeah i should probably uh familiarize myself i'm gonna have to go over oh i don't have to read books i'm going to read coursey's book nah nah nah get a get a wiki i will see it'll be fine um so uh that when we know more we'll talk more but here's the interesting thing i wanted to go back and talk a little bit

about what alex used to say about q anon as a little bit of a sort of refresher now we'll recall that in 2018 on christmas eve alex jones was in studio and he told the world that he had told uh roger stone to get in touch with julie nissan yes i do recall that uh and then he started throwing at hatchets at the uh that was fun yeah that was fun so that was that christmas eve and abusive boss is hilarious if we go back to the christmas eve prior alex also got into studio and he had a message for the world it's christmas eve

and i have come into the office to stream this emergency transmission on youtube and facebook facebook because if this doesn't get major attention and if this doesn't break through into the public's psyche the globalists have a decent chance of killing the president in the next two weeks and didn't have taking over the media really didn't have using the emergency alert system the obama kill switch that's still in place to really bring this country into a civil emergency

is where we call it but it's really martial law now in the last few months i have followed but never really spoken of q anon or q anonymous and a lot of what q anon has said i've already gotten separately from my white house sources my pentagon sources my cia sources and folks know we have amazing sources so he brings it up to be like yeah they're saying some stuff that's real but it even implied in there is is that there's you know it's it's whack yeah it's whack i got the real sources

in this uh this next clip from that christmas eve show he uh brings up that you know because it started as the storm there was the storm the calm before the storm the storm is coming writers on the storm alex literally says that he is the storm the storm is real it's called america coming back it's called info wars it's called electing trump it's called fulfilling promises it's called sovereignty returning so he's making himself what the people who are listening to q anon are actually talking

about yeah we are what you're talking about right we are the change that you want to see in the world with your piddly online q anon bullshit and the reason that he was on that tip and the reason that he was sort of dismissive of q anon is because at that point he was trying to push zak at his fake intelligence source that's right as the real q anon and it's not taken off that's right i forgot about zak people weren't interested in it alex had this whole pageant that he played this radio drama

where zak came on and talked to him and then got taken in by the fbi and he told them that he's going to talk to alex and then he had to flee to morocco it turns out he was actually just on family vacation or something along those lines and then zak disappeared because the narrative didn't work out and i'm guessing that zak just kind of got tired of playing this role for alex whatever whatever he was doing this lark uh that he was doing just didn't work so alex it's kind of amazing that they thought it had a chance i don't understand why conspiracy i think it was worth it like i think i

let's let's let's think about conspiracy theorists who are they gonna go with as far as conspiracies uh q anon or zak i believe zak was also spelled with a q yeah which i think which i think was intentional that's nice i like that z aq but yeah come on also alex other times spelled at z a k i'm not entirely sure it's more evidence that it's not a real person but actually dak shepherd could have been uh so alex was mad that zak was not as popular as q anon and i believe that that's probably one of the main things that he

had against q anon is that he had his own version of it that he was trying to push um and that it wasn't as popular which zak anon was right there yep it is it's right there but it's not a little it's no longer anonymous his name is zak uh so in this next clip he sort of expresses that resentment that his hoax is not as popular as the other one zak is who he says he is and here he is on the show and it's only got 44 000 views man again some little comment about q anon gets a million that's great this is this this guy's real this guy's known to us who he is

there's tv programs with him in it his voice his face we've talked to him he's on he gives us this stuff exclusively and he's had to leave the country to give you this information this is the real q anon which implies that the other one is the fake one yeah the the q anon that is q anon is fake and zak is the real shit so that's most of like what alex's positions have been about q anon over the course of his uh being against it is zak is the real thing

let's get my revenue stream involved here yeah and it didn't work out so zak disappeared and it's interesting that he experiences some of the feelings that uh i've definitely experienced where he's like zak is real even though he's not but we only got 44 000 views and i'm like man infowars gets millions of views and we are yeah but i know but it's real it's gotta feel bad though those views are empty yeah that's true um so the reason that i bring that back up is to show just a little bit of a only you know what is it a year and couple months year and a half ago or so

that was the position and the official editorial position alex had on q anon uh it was it was anti uh because zak was the real one and zak was in the house so we're back in trump is mobbed up territory no to no oh similar trajectories yeah yeah i thought you meant timeline no no no absolutely not so i bring this up because after alex has made this point uh to this caller that uh q anon you know there's a good version of it and i'm into it and you know i got led astray by people i trusted he tries to bring zak back into the

proceedings he claims that he's on the phone but he never uh gets to him because i don't think he actually was uh let's go ahead was about to go to zak but looked like he just hung up so let's go ahead and talk to grant in isle a grant you're on here go ahead show ends does not call back in i don't think zak was on the phone i think that alex was just trying to reintroduce the idea that he had this guy who was his real q anon right refresh it into people's memories because even right before he goes to him on the phone earlier just a little bit

earlier he had said uh oh we got zak calling in he hasn't called in like three or four months yeah why hasn't he called in in three or four months alex yeah it's a weird coincidence you dropped you dropped this narrative that the moment i say i think some q anon is real uh i want to bring zak back i want to bring my my real q anon in this yeah it's so weird so there's some angles being played and it might be a part of why he hasn't figured out how to eat crow yet is i haven't figured out how to work what i used to say about zak into what my

now my new position i'm interested to see where it develops but honestly i have no idea because alex is now in los angeles and he's making a tour through all of the death squad podcasts yeah going through uh he was on sam triples podcast apparently Jesus Christ which we won't listen to what are these guys doing they also on joey d as is coming up apparently they just saw they just saw that rogan's got a shit ton of downloads and they're like let's let's play this out and see when diminishing returns happens right and i

think it they'll find out very quickly yeah so i'm not interested in any of those if he's back on rogan we might listen to it but i'm not i don't have much interest in us doing an episode where he gets yelled at by joey yeah i kind of want you though we'll be fun we'll see that'd be fun i guess in joey ds can dial it up when he wants to uh in terms of fan service i might bite the bullet and go ahead and do that but i'm not interested in it i wasn't interested in this episode either except for as a message or i guess as something that

is important to point out because a lot of the stuff is stuff we've seen before like rank transphobia anti-lgbt messaging the conflation of cross-dressing drag queen performance and trans folk that sort of stuff we we see that horrible rhetoric pushed out into the world before but the directness of how much this is trying to get people hurt and then the caller calling in saying i should be able to kill these people if i want to with no consequences i think is a new level of

demonstrable uh danger that alex is perpetuating putting into the world so i think it's worth discussing for that and then no one would have let us get away with not talking about alex going on here and on but it's such a small part of this episode like it could in the future turn out to be something major yeah this could be the kernel of alex pivoting some narratives and and that being his new direction yeah where we go one we go all nonsense he could but that's left to be seen this could be a small blip

and it just be a marketing ploy on his part yeah in some way to tap into a fertile market that he feels he doesn't have access to we'll see on that yeah but what's not up for debate is how dangerous the rhetoric that he's putting out uh vis-a-vis the drag queen story our stuff is yeah and none of this at all as a reminder none of this is in any way supporting or defending those two individuals who were sex offenders who were involved in the drag queen story hours that is them and a failure of oversight that is all that is

they are not indicative of the group as a whole i i really appreciate doing this because it is i think i think it's really important to keep this in front of our faces and in front of as many faces as possible because there would be there is a an absolute instinct of like well we already know how he feels about trans people right we don't even need to we don't even need to talk about it because everybody already knows yeah but i think it's really important to keep it coming back up just so you're always confronted

with the reality of what people are saying well especially as an escalate yeah exactly because this is an escalation yeah like you've heard him say that these people are demons and stuff before but maybe not in such an ugly way we've never never really seen it be so clearly violent justifying of violence yeah and so that does but that does mark a very serious escalation and i think that this could i think that there is the basis of a lawsuit no matter what happens but if

something bad happens i think there's the basis of a very serious lawsuit that alex could have put himself into the hopper for this is so hateful yeah it's awful we've reached the end of this and uh thank you all for listening we'll be back on friday but until then we have a website we do have a website it's uh knowledgefight.com yep we have a twitter account it's true knowledge underscore fight i have a twitter account it's at go to bed jordan yep we're also on facebook indeed you we have a

group called go home and tell your mother you're brilliant yeah we are on itunes you can leave a review subscribe rate do the whole thing good times absolutely um but uh bloom and thaw bloom and thaw though alex says that he is the leader of the dracula demons who are going to drink everyone's blood trauma at this point i see no evidence that he's ever killed anybody but technically one guy who probably has uh technically on a probable basis technically alex jones andy and james usher on the air thanks for holding

so alex i'm a first time caller i'm a huge fan i love your work i love you