Knowledge Fight - #290: April 25-26, 2019

Episode Date: April 29, 2019

Today, Dan and Jordan discuss all the ins and outs of what happened on the Alex Jones Show on April 25th and 26th. It's mostly Alex rehashing old narratives and lying about people who are suing him, but along the way, he finds time to his toe into some of incredibly troubling ideas.

Andy in Kansas. You're on the air. Thanks for holding Hello, Alex, I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you. Hey everybody. Welcome back to knowledge fight I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes like to sit around took novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones Oh, indeed. We are Dan Jordan Jordan. What's your first memory? I Don't know. I don't I mean this is a little personal I don't remember a whole lot of my youth like I don't I Legitimately don't I have large gaps in my memory from like a lot of people talk about how they remember things from when they were like four or five and so I am almost

Nothing yeah, a lot of my earliest memories are things that have been reconstructed from like pictures that my parents have Mm-hmm, and so probably one of my earliest memories I had like a baseball cake when we lived in Cambridge. Yeah, Massachusetts back when I was real young under the age of like six But I don't remember it. I remember the picture of it, right? You know, there's things like that. Yeah, I think that's a completely relatable phenomenon Yeah, I don't know so it'd be tough for me to think about like what the earliest one is and it's also tough for me to think about any memories Right now because I'm on almost no sleep from drunk people in my new apartment complex keeping me up until 4 or 5 in the morning With their bullshit. Well, it was a Chicago holiday. It's no 28. Yeah, that was great. I celebrated by getting a bath bomb

That's never I'd never used a bath bomb before and like to give you my review on that You've never used a bath bomb. No, I like an epsom salt I like I used to like a bubble bath back in the day, but I never explored the bomb world Yeah, how do you feel about the bomb? Mm-hmm bad review. Well, I mean, it's fine You know like a nice lavender scent and what have you still an enjoyable bath, but I expected more. It's called a bomb It just sort of fizzed a little bit I really expected some like I don't know what I expected fireworks something That's how I celebrate. They're being snow on a couple days before May. Yeah, which is awesome. Love it

Love you Chicago. Yep, but this is a show where we complain about Chicago weather indeed And I know a lot about Alex Jones and I only know what you tell me Jordan today. We are back in the present Oh boy, we're gonna be going over April 25th and 26 not a huge fan of the present Stinks Alex has just gotten back from going to bullhorn at D in Washington DC yelling at the Capitol building to let him back on Twitter because he's an adult absolutely and we will get to how that goes so horribly wrong Okay, but before we do that something that is so horribly right That is thank you transition people who make this show possible who are supporting the show first of all Anthony Thank you so much. You are now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you Anthony

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You do that by going to our website knowledge fight calm clicking the button that says support the show You can do that if you're not Ron our test as well. I hope so we would appreciate it So Jordan today like I said 25th 26th. What up crazy stuff This is gonna be alright. This is gonna be bad So let's at least enjoy a little bit of fun here at the beginning with this out-of-context drop big new sale is we never done this before 100% off knockout the great sleep aid. That's not a sale 100% off that should give you some sense of where things are at

What are they throwing at you out of a drive moving car? You have to buy a bottle of like brain force or whatever and you get a bottle of now knockout for free Right Yeah, kind of the framing of it is really bad. Yeah, it makes it stinks of desperation 100% off and I'm presenting this as our new sale Good good stuff new sale is we need to get rid of this shit So we're starting to fire it out of a cannon that should give you a little bit of a sense of what's going on With Alex's business model. He talks about how the money stream is not doing great

No, I wonder why over the world, of course, but the money is not good Now money is too tight to mention You know what you really need to take over the world is a can-do attitude not a multimillion-dollar business Dan Yeah, yeah, and so we begin we begin on the 25th and Alex is talking about what what happened while he was in DC and He had a little bit of a run-in with a guest of his who we got to have an impromptu totally Absolutely Authentic and the normal not set up interview with oh, that's nice

By the way, he wasn't the Soros connected guy Even though he knows Soros his son and did some trading with him on Wall Street that offered me the Bitcoin to join the dark side But but he got the heat for it when I mentioned that But that's a separate time he offered me 150 million in Bitcoin back when it was worth a dollar a piece when it first came out He's talking about Max Kaiser. He ran into Max Kaiser at the trunk Trump hotel He ran into Max Kaiser. They were both drinking some Stella Artois Yeah, Trump hotel. What was Max Kaiser there for nominally otherwise? I don't know. I mean, he's a journalist He works for RT. I mean here's a show on RT. He's

He's a he's a man about town. I think you might be I think you might have some connections in media and stuff like that Yeah, I mean, I don't think of of Alex's guests. He's one that actually probably has more of a career than a lot of these other dicks Yeah, I have a hard time any time we talk about that every time you tell me he's a journalist and he has a his own show And I'm like a guy who who's tried to sell me on Max coin can't actually have a job Yeah, can't be a thing but also got Max but if you were super into Bitcoin when it was like pretty profitable And you made a good amount of money off it I don't think it would be that weird that you might want to fuck around and start your own coin Even if it's not like something you think is going to be the bet like make you your nest egg or whatever

But it could be fun Okay Max went on there and he was like buy some Max coin because it's hilarious I'm not sure that he sells Max coin as hard as we do. Okay, or we pretend he does Okay, as a joke talk about it probably more than he does Okay, still not worth much. Okay, so over the course of just the time we've been paying attention to him Alex has told a lot of different stories about how the globalists have tried to get him to come over to their side He said that Fox News executives have offered him million dollar contracts

He said that vaguely described people have offered him tens of million dollars to turn on the republic and all the noble patriots That he represents when he was super fucked up doing that read it asked me anything session He also seemed to accidentally admit that none of that actually even happened When he responded to a question about being offered tons of money by the globalists by saying it never happened The new version we're seeing presented today is that a Soros connected person who's definitely not Max Kaiser Offered him millions in Bitcoin as the fabled payoff for him to sell out 150 million in Bitcoin something like that. Okay, there's tons. It was worth a dollar. So 150 million Bitcoin Well, that's impossible. Right. There's tons of problems with this story

For one Bitcoin didn't exist until January 2009 and his stories of attempts to buy him out by the globalists all these stories They predate that both in terms of when he told the stories and in terms of when the stories He's telling are set like so when he would tell the story in the present day These stories were set before January 2009 before Bitcoin even existed Yeah, he was telling post Y2k stories in 1998 Mm-hmm. It took a year after that point in January 2009 when Bitcoin was introduced for any recorded commercial transactions to happen with Bitcoin when some dude bought two Papa John's pizzas for 10,000 Bitcoins, which would be worth approximately 40 million dollars today Crazy fun. Yeah fun. It wouldn't be until July 2010 that Bitcoin would have a value over a penny

And it wasn't until April 2011 that Bitcoin broke the one-to-one value ratio with the dollar at which point it began Fluctuating wildly probably because it was completely unregulated currency that was ripe for the picking of really shady scam artists There's a maximum of 21 million Bitcoins that can ever exist in circulation That's an essential piece of the system and how it works Globalists could have offered Alex all the Bitcoin that could ever exist in late 2010 And it would still only be worth two million dollars an amount Alex would be an idiot to accept Even if they offered him every single Bitcoin at the point when Bitcoin is worth a dollar each that would only be 21 million dollars Which Alex by his own like how much money I make and what it takes to run this operation that he would run out of that money

Yeah, so fucking fast and if he got all of the Bitcoin in existence, they would instantly become worth nothing. Yeah That's how I Hate Bitcoin I hate Bitcoin because every time I hear more and more about it like the mining of Bitcoin or the fact that I didn't know That there could only ever be 21 million Bitcoin. That's part of what makes it that there's only like 17 million in circulation right now I was like that see now every time somebody tells me stuff like that. I'm like his money even real Why not just write things on on napkins? I don't know what that's one of these people's chief complaints about the idea of like fiat currencies Yeah, just print more of them. Yeah, it's not like how gold has a finite amount theoretically in the universe Same thing with Bitcoin. There's a finite amount of them

Which I guarantee is that they will always have some value right or whatever. That's fun. I guess I don't know what it means I have a sense of what it means. Yeah, so here's what's actually going on here Alex recently ran into Max Kaiser while drinking at the Trump Hotel in DC where he mentioned that he had offered Alex 10,000 bitcoins sometime back in the past and that Alex Had he have kept them would it would be worth 50 million dollars today And so Alex was a response to that is saying I turned down 50 million dollars right something like that Alex knows that this makes him look stupid for not taking them So he needs to create a reason for him to have not or for him to have been skeptical about Bitcoin

And what better way than to associate the cryptocurrency with an attempt at globalist payoff? Alex is a bimetallic hard currency guy from way back His show legitimately only exists today because of the investment of Ted Anderson and Midas resources in the late 90s So at no point while Ted was still Alex's sugar daddy. Could he ever have cozied up with an alternative currency? There's no way that would have flow But just because Alex is in the pocket of a golden silver salesman That doesn't mean that a lot of the people in his orbit warrant cryptocurrency scammers and over the course of his career It's been very clear that a lot of Alex's guests who tried to entice him into being the frontman for a pump and dumps type scheme

It very it very much appears that way based on looking over the people who have tried to seduce Alex into Bitcoin Yeah A number of his guests have tried to get Alex to endorse Bitcoin Which would lead this audience to buying up what they can and inflating the price whereupon these guests who talked to Alex into endorsing Would most likely sell at that elevated price point leave Alex's audience holding the bag This is something that John McAfee has been particularly criticized about Promoting coins specifically to raise their value providing pump and dump opportunities for people in the know to capitalize on something that people talk about a lot In Bitcoin forums you can find people discussing this openly like this commenter who said this on

9 p.m. On Christmas Eve in 2017 quote You need to stay in tune with his tweets And that is what everyone has been doing for a while now and you need to be fast on buying these coins That he'll tweet because you might get stuck in the middle of it and if you're too slow doing it So stay tuned and keep looking at his tweeter account, and you'll be part of his pump and dump group Of course the reality is that these things happen really fast like in a matter of minutes oftentimes So what'll happen is that a lot of the times that people watching McAfee's Twitter for clues will be too slow And then they'll think that they're in on a scheme

But they'll be the ones who end up losing money in the scheme when the dump happens before they're ready for it The role that McAfee plays in these operations is almost certainly one that it appears that Alex has probably been offered to play But not by the globalists for whatever reason maybe because he's loved hard currency too much Maybe because Ted told him he couldn't or maybe because he just didn't think Bitcoin would become worth a bunch later Alex is pretty consistently resisted the invitations to enter the cryptocurrency world And I don't know if it's it to his credit or not, but it's interesting to me. It's a little bit weird Why would you think it makes him look stupid to That's like it makes him look stupid now to have 50 million dollars

He could have on the table when he's begging people for money because he's getting sued by everybody Yeah, but I mean that doesn't look stupid That's just like oh I had the chance to buy Apple stock in 1972 and if I had bought it would be worth 10 billion dollars It's like that's not your fault. Nobody nobody can see the future But in the video he is a psychic so that does kind of make it look stupid But also in the video Max is saying like if you've just taken this thing I'd offered you for free right now. You'd have 50 million dollars. Yeah, so the presentation if it is you Because of whatever

Fucking foolish ideas you had you don't have that money. Yeah. Yeah, so it's it it's part of it's partially the presentation of it I think most likely the issue is Alex's obsession with hard currency in the bimetallic nonsense Mm-hmm, and I probably think that there's also a good chance that it's because Intel Late 2015 Ted Anderson was running lightest resources. Yeah until he got his license taken away And so there's probably a good chance he Ted just told him no like you can't have both Right be both involved in a Bitcoin nonsense, right and my golden silver nonsense Is there any way to regulate those pump-and-dump schemes? Isn't that isn't supposed to be there is in the regular markets, right? But not in Bitcoin because it's the Wild West right gotcha

So one of the things that's going to come up quite a bit here on this episode is Alex has a lot of thoughts about Charlottesville and one of the reasons is because he's being sued and he's been trying to pretend that that lawsuit has just magically gone away But it has not and recently he's gotten some bad news about it and that the lawsuit is proceeding And so in order to deal with that he's gonna spend a decent amount of time trying to reclaim the narrative And part of that is talking about how Millie Weaver was there. She's a great reporter and oh boy She knows everything. Oh, no Millie Weaver is gonna join us as well She was in Charlottesville and she saw the left with the police collide

The reporters and the white nationalist and the Democrats posing as white nationalists Into each other to cause the conflagration that got the woman killed So that's sort of a broad strokes version of the narrative Alex will be selling We'll get into it as he gets into it later, but that's just sort of a little bit of a here. That's coming up Is it smart to talk about a lawsuit on your radio show? It is if you're talking about a fake version of it Is it smart to talk about two lawsuits? It's fine to talk about a fictional like strawman version of the lawsuit. Yeah, you're not actually talking

It's very clear what his strategy right here obfuscate. Um, so like we said, he Alex was in DC He went to bullhorn at the White House to get himself back on Twitter While he was there stayed at the Trump hotel Hung out ran into Max Kaiser who to guest they had some drinks But the thing that's crazy is that while Alex was bullhorning the White House Trump was having a meeting with Jack from Twitter Now okay in this clip Alex says that he didn't know that that was going to happen And it was just coincidence, and I honestly don't know what I think

by the way, that was total Providence synchronicity serendipity, whatever the proper term is that I land in DC On Tuesday I Go directly from the airport to the White House It was a private meeting. It wasn't announced until it was ongoing that the head of Twitter would be in there in a meeting being chastised for censorship and Then sure enough right while I'm bullhorn, and there's a whole bunch of news out there that actually

Picked up what I was saying. That's how the Fox host was able to repeat what I had just said and there's more audio of that the poor leftist Out there had their own bullhorns two of them screaming at me trying to drown me out, but they're not a horrible They're not a use them. They always aim them Maybe I shouldn't tell them how to use a bullhorn properly They always aim them at the crowd as if you know their little commies and they want to convince them instead of really yelling through One at full power and then bouncing it off buildings But that's what we were doing and it was extremely successful

And I'm told that the president even remarked on it later because despite the bulletproof clash I was going right into the room where the meeting was actually taking place now so that Clip the two things that I got are like one I legitimately don't know if I believe that he didn't know that Dorsey was gonna have a meeting with Trump or if he did I have no idea either is weird. Yeah, either. Yeah, it's got to be one or the other I don't both are weird. Yeah. Yeah, did anybody know that he was gonna meet with Jack? It wasn't on his official schedule Right. I'll tell you that. Okay. So how would he have known? I mean there was did did Trump even know I don't think Trump knew

I don't know. I don't think it's super weird and I don't know where to land on it So I'll say like whatever but then the rest of that clip really made me wish like you ever get on YouTube and see those like Gordon Ramsay or Daniel Negranu commercials for like master class. Yeah He teaches you to cook. Yeah, Daniel Negranu teaches you how to play poker I was gonna teach you how to yell through a bullhorn. Now what you gotta do is you gotta yell through it So it bounces off buildings. I was listening to that the whole time going like wait, are you bragging about bullhorn usage? Well, I mean, I didn't know you could brag about that. To be fair It's one of the few things that I think he would be an internationally recognized expert on. Yeah, that is true

He is a bullhorn guy from the jump from way back. Yeah, tyranny crushers one through eight are all in the hall of fame So as much as I don't believe you knows how to read or Analyze context or any of that stuff I do believe that he could teach you a goddamn thing or two about how to bullhorn. Yeah, even you a champion No, 100% yeah, I I I recognize my limitations. That's the measure of a wise man Or something like that according to Marcus Aurelius should be bouncing off buildings. I should be bouncing off buildings That's an untapped market for yells. You bet that is you bet it is So in this next clip Alex tries to

reinvigorate a narrative that he's You know, he's used a lot and it's sort of gone by the wayside a little bit lately But he wants to resurrect it and that is the Trump was spied on narrative Oh, yeah, that was nice to hear part of that's because Trump's bringing it up and being like hey everyone's spied on me Why not and then William Barr is also being like hey Trump got spied on because he's an ass And so Alex was hanging out with the one American news network Which Jack Pasobak works for and oh, I thought you I thought you were being vague There's actually a news network called one American news network you bet there is

Said like a pizza place some guys sell pizza might as well be So he's on there and he had an interview with Jack Pasobak and they played some sort of pre-packaged piece and it had the evidence that Alex had forgotten about Trump being spied on and I was really excited to hear this because like I want to know what you're talking about and Then I got less excited So they are caught and this is what I've obsessed on is These key facts right now here it is In the wake of the Mueller probe details continue to emerge about how the Obama administration spied on the Trump campaign

ahead of the 2016 elections one America's Neil W. McCabe spoke to a former CIA analyst Larry Johnson was an analyst were both the CIA and the State Department He told one American news that now that the Mueller probe is closed is time for the American people to learn the truth about how the British government Helped the Obama administration dodge the Fourth Amendment by spying on the 2016 Trump campaign for them It's Larry Johnson It's so funny to me that Alex constantly yells about how no one has a memory except him and how the globalists exploit that to trick you Because if Alex had any memory or thought his audience did he would never try to have another swing at making Larry see Johnson Seem like a legitimate source on anything. Oh, yeah

In case you forgot Larry see Johnson is probably most memorable for being the guy who tried to spread the hoax during the 2008 presidential campaign that there was a tape of Michelle Obama railing on whitey while appearing on a panel with Louis Farrakhan at Jeremiah Wright's Trinity Church He pushed the story although he admitted that he'd never seen the tape just talked to mysterious unnamed people who had The Obama campaign said quote no such tape exists pointing out that Michelle had never spoken at Trinity and it never used that word When the tape never materialized Johnson blamed the McCain campaign claiming that someone had told him that McCain's people requested They not release the tape which is bullshit Interestingly Larry see Johnson was the main source for a ton of stories that were circulating about the quote-unquote whitey tape

Rush Limbaugh used Larry as an as an excuse to cover the fake story sensationally But what I find more interesting is that Roger fucking stone appeared on heraldos Fox News show to comment on it Quote there's a buzz which I believe now to be credible that some indelible record exists of public remarks that Michelle Obama Allegedly made which are outrageous at best, but could be termed racist including some reference to white people as whiteies allegedly Roger was using Larry see Johnson's information as the basis for his insinuations And then Larry's own blog No quarter posted Roger's Fox News interview presenting it as evidence that the story was legitimate Looking back through time what you see and is fascinating is the same players playing the same games

It's weird. I hate them. I hate it. I hate it. I hate current America Do you realize very weird in it back then back then here's a big story? Michelle Obama called somebody a honky. That's it. That was their big news That was a new and it was true. It was over and over in the new cycle. Everybody's commenting on that right wing Tape of the Trump saying the n-word that Like what are you Tom Arnold? Like what are we doing like how is it? How is it trusting Tom Arnold on this? Cuz I would advise you to be careful about Tom Arnold. There's just a little difference of degree Oh, no, I was just if we are going hoax to huh, right, right that one which one is which one is worse, right?

I don't know. I don't I don't I'm mad if I'm actually angrier if Michelle Obama didn't say that whitey isn't dry I know we've been we've been over this. Yeah Perhaps more seriously and more relevant to this episode of alex's show Larry c. Johnson was the source for the the claim that the british intelligence group gchq was spying on the trump campaign at Obama's request The main outlet to pick up the story and run with it was andre napolitano on his show on fox news This claim was so unfounded so not backed up by actual information and so inflammatory That it literally almost caused an international incident when trump repeated the claims

It legitimately threatened our international intelligence sharing relationship with some of our longest held Enclosest allies formed in the aftermath of world war two in hopes of averting a world war three In the fallout fox news released statements condemning the coverage and took napolitano off the air for an indefinite vacation Though he would return uh to air about a week later Here are some important things to remember about larry c. Johnson one He retired from intelligence work in 1993 14 years before the first iphone came out eight years before the release of the fucking nintendo game cube

People born five years after he retired can legally buy booze now So that should give you some sense of when he was in the game Two people who knew him when he was in intelligence do not think highly of him There are very frequent criticisms of him that he made a habit of downplaying the threat of terrorism in the pre 9 11 days Emmy award-winning investigative journalist peter lance who worked with larry had this to say of him Quote larry to me is one of the great empty suits He's emblematic of what goes wrong in the agency emblematic of the attitude that let 9 11 happened And it's not like there isn't evidence to back this up allow me to read to you from a new york times op-ed piece

That larry c. Johnson wrote on july 10th 2001 oh boy a mere 63 days before 9 11 Oh no quote judging from news reports in the portrayal of villains in our popular entertainment Americans are bedeviled by fantasies about terrorism They seem to believe that terrorism is the greatest threat to the united states and that it is becoming war widespread and lethal They are likely to think that the united states is the most popular target of terrorists And they almost certainly have the impression that the extremist islamic groups cause most most terrorism none of these beliefs are based in fact Whoops, you're not you're okay. You know what it's easy to cherry pick that but you didn't read the op-ed in the new york times

He wrote 63 days after 9 11 where he said whoops my bad guys I mean i missed the ball on this one. I think i'm actually stupid I think there's some salient points that he's making in terms of not allowing yourself to be caught up in sensationalism But he's not making those. No, I know I Hidden within that is the reality that he's Being stupid about it, but it has that veneer of like no, you're right. You're right. We shouldn't be We shouldn't be over so afraid that we're paralyzed in in certain senses. There's a certain way of putting that I mean also you're

You're you fucked up, you know like they the quote they seem to believe the terrorism is the greatest threat to the united states I mean you could say right you could say that yeah, maybe it isn't the biggest threat, but 63 days after this 9 11 Yeah Posting an op-ed where you're trying to downplay the threat of terrorism a couple months before 9 11 is a bad look It's a real bad look if you are presenting yourself as a good intelligence analyst It's a real bad look Three larry c johnson is a member of the veteran intelligence professionals for sanity along with william binney You'll likely be unsurprised to learn that he's a member of the faction in the organization

Who released the very sloppy memo that asserted to prove that the breach of the dnc couldn't have been a hack Which was used as the cornerstone of the seth rich conspiracy theories So larry c johnson had his fucking fingers on that one too How did the stupid become so successful? I mean just lying. Yeah. Yeah, shouldn't there be you need the pretense and the veneer of some sort of credibility So working in intelligence for a couple years back in 93 Yeah, if you just have that then you could just state with confidence all sorts of crazy bullshit Yeah, people just like oh, yeah as long as it aligns with what other people need somebody to stay crazily

God damn it. That's a good racket. It is. It's so easy All this is to say that larry c johnson is a fucking idiot with a really long track record of being completely wrong about everything The last time he was even close to doing intelligence work The unabomber was in the middle of his bombing campaign Tonya Harding was a year away from clubbing nancy karigan and kurt cobain tupac and biggie were all still alive You're a long time ago. I know but the reference point out of blue is tanya harding. Yeah, that was a long time ago I know but I it's just okay. There's literally no reason to ever trust something He's reported without evidence if he provides evidence of something then we could talk

But just his like things that he's claiming From secret sources and stuff like that you cannot trust anything he says And you can see the danger that can come from it His bullshit being repeated by napolitano found its way to trump's ear and because it satisfied trump's ego He believed it and repeated it which had the potential to realign geopolitical alliances Ultimately larry's shit is weak and it's definitely fun to laugh at him But in the age we now live in someone like him could literally start a world war

So it's important to look at him and it's not just a joke. Yeah These are very serious things that are being played around with and alex Is like reigniting this story based on larry c johnson being used as a source by one american news Right, that's very bad. This is very this is stuff. We've already dealt with you know, yeah The last few years. Yeah, uh, it's not it's not great to see how they just keep throwing the same bullshit That was actually one of the more comforting things that uh, the Mueller report gave us Is the realization that Just like that trump just tweeting out some obviously bullshit information

Theoretically could have ruined a relationship we have with another country, right? But as you see over and over and over again in the Mueller report So many times trump does something that if you took it literally would be like the end of the world as we know it And everybody around him is just like We're not doing that one that one's just not gonna happen Like there's so many it seems like many other people around the world may also have adopted that so many heads of state You know, you know or like that's not good. We're not going to listen to that guy It's really bad, but at least everybody in the world has this sense of like

Okay, we know what he's doing We know what he's trying to do and let's all just not let everybody die It makes it a lot funnier when alex complains about obama deteriorating our soft power Yeah, no kidding makes it a real comedy The rest of the world doesn't believe what the president says. That's usually not a good side. Yeah, not good. So, uh alex is bringing back up this trump was spied on narrative and His evidence there is the one america news network clip that was played that interviewed larry c johnson, right? So bad noted intelligence official larry c johnson from again back when kurt cobain was alive

Grunge was grunge Grunge analyst, right? The world trade center first bombing had just happened. Right. Right. All right What else do we got the dream team had just won? Wasn't that 92 wasn't that 92? I think it was. Yeah, that was So anyway, that's one piece of evidence alex has this larry c johnson stuff But thankfully because I mean if that was it we could just be like But thankfully alex has other information

Um, and he gets into it in this next clip We're gonna play that samantha powers clip one more time But there she is heading up national security point of order. He never plays a Samantha powers clip. Okay for obama and she's openly on tv admitting that they were legally surveilling the president And then later saying that they didn't do that. They can't even

Cover their butts anymore They're unable to do it and then She sends herself an email once trump actually gets in she can't believe they were unable to stop him Saying oh, we better follow all the laws on surveillance when she'd been quarterbacking it Along with others the whole time And that's what our sources told us at the time. It's all turned out to be true info wars.com

Two years from now news today And that's why the globalists want us shut off the air. That's why they lie about us. That's why they demonize this That's why they sue us So they do all this because they understand that we will first break the news and make it safe for others to cover it So oh boy That's an interesting way to phrase make it Others to cover awful content. That's not good. No So I don't really care about any of that stuff because if he's not gonna you know come with it

I'm not either I really only want that to sit here as the globalist Tate Alex because he's so far ahead of everybody And he's right about everything I told you that he doesn't play that Samantha powers clip and I stand by that assertion Remember that as this plays. Okay. This is gonna be really really big and really really important But here is powers on CNN or MSNBC one more time for you admitting it all I had a fear that somehow that information would disappear with the senior people who left So it would be hidden away in the bureaucracy Of course that the trump folks if they found out how

We knew what we knew about their the staff the trump staffs dealing with russians that they would try to compromise those sources and methods We know that specifically from And again to be clear That's that's that's evelin farkas talking about Samantha powers. Yeah, there it is There it is Samantha power statement coming up as well Whoops It took me like it took me like five seconds and I was like this isn't her

Nope, but Alex tries to save it at the end. We're like That's about it. Everyone farkas was talking about her. It wasn't her this clip not surprisingly is a big old zero And it's something that conspiracy sites have tried to push periodically Since early 2017 and each time it fails to get any traction because it's kind of bullshit This is a clip of evelin farkas obama's former deputy assistant secretary of defense for russia and ukraine in an interview on msnbc Miss farkas is not discussing spying on trump in his campaign. Uh the need to preserve that intelligence She's very specifically talking about how there were a lot of people at the time who were concerned that intelligence That had been gathered about russia and their adventures into election meddling might end up missing once trump's people got into office

And that is what needed to be specifically preserved This was specifically stated uh to be the basis uh to be based on the fact that quote American intelligence agencies had intercepted communications of russian officials Some of them within the kremlin discussing contacts with trump associates That is why there uh was a concern about the sources and methods of collecting information At that point it wasn't clear if you were handing over uh intelligence data to the people who the intelligence was about This would compromise literally all of the country's intelligence capability about russia and related issues Her interview on msnbc was specifically to discuss a story in the new york times that had come out a few days prior

With the headline quote obama officials raced to preserve russian trail So it's not like this wasn't already a larger conversation that was being had in the media Nothing farkas is saying is even close to a bombshell the way alex is trying to present this stuff The new york times article this interview is about specifically says quote Former senior obama administration officials said that none of the efforts were directed by mr. obama So alex saying the opposite of that seems untethered to any actual real reporting To the sources that he's pointing towards There's one more reason to discount pretty much uh everything about this interview being an accidental admission of a grand conspiracy

Uh and that is that evil and farkas resigned from her deputy assistant secretary position in september 2015 At least four months before the republican national convention and the naming of trump as the official candidate She wasn't even in any official capacity during the 2016 general election She's just expressing uh something that she as someone who had experience in the uh department Uh vis-a-vis russia and ukraine was saying okay you gotta be careful guys, right? That's it. Gotcha. There's nothing here Okay, so it's uh, so he's making uh Not he's making nothing sound like something Yeah, and then insisting that he's playing a clip of samantha powers and then later on leaving

Oh, I mean it was evil and farkas. So I mean, yeah, yeah They're all accidentally admitting that they did all the things that I knew that they did and I said that they did before And tomorrow's news today blah blah blah blah by my shit a hundred percent off knockout. Right, right, right, right? Isn't it I don't So here's the thing about the whole spying issue for for me, uh, if they if our Intelligence analysts were keeping an eye on russia's election meddling Then You claimed that they were spying on you, right?

Um, they were watching over here when you came into the picture Not we were watching you and then russia showed up, right? It's that it's a little bit like if if you got caught up in the spying that wasn't they didn't start with you Right, you're if you say that you got spied on you're basically admitting that We were doing that Do you see what i'm saying? Yeah, you're you're you're insinuating that they started looking at you right when in reality You're just hiding the fact that you came into the picture, right, you know You could have accidentally or or intentionally come into the the circle of the people that were being looked at and were being

Uh, uh, surveilled. Yeah, that's my understanding of everything and from everything that eval and fark is saying that traces with that to the tracks entirely um, so Anyway, uh in this next clip alex talks about being in dc Um, and he's got some insider information jordan. He has sources. Okay now Are they max geyser one of them might be i don't fucking know He's one of the people that we can definitively say alex talk to in dc. Okay, um This is crazy to me and this is something that alex keeps doing Throughout these two episodes the 25th and 26th

Well, here's the goodness Two of these people i talked to said go ahead talk about it on record And then a third one Said well, you can go ahead, but then said ah, maybe not Just don't say my name. So i'm not gonna say anybody's name. What? Did he just retell the goldilocks of the three bears story? One of them said it's on the record right one of them said it's on the record But don't use my name and the other one said it's off the record. It's all off the record. So it's all off the

I had two people who said we don't give a fuck say whatever you want put our names on blast. I'm not gonna do it What Even though when he does have a real intelligence source, he's always just like all right. Well, it was donald trump jr I wasn't supposed to say that right. I mean that's really suspicious I talked to three people two said I could say their names. So i'm not gonna say shit. I'm no snitch What? Hell, let's get it together. What are you doing? So in this next clip

To say any of that And the next clip we're about to hear here. He kind of implies who they are And I thought about trying to figure out who he was trying to suggest But I just like I don't give a shit that none of this is real I talked to three different people One person is a close friend of the president and talk to him routinely. I'll leave it that others Write briefings for him

So I I immediately thought Tom Arnold. Well, I thought Roger stone or Jerome coursey When I heard the first one is a friend of trumps. Yeah, and that made me think like well, coursey just sued alex So that's probably not and then roger. I don't know where he is in the game anymore So I don't know it doesn't it could be it could be max geyser quite frankly I talked to a friend of trumps. Yeah, that could be anybody. That's a jackoff motion. Yeah And then someone who writes briefs for trump I think he's trying to imply it's steven miller But no, he you miss you miss heard him somebody who makes briefs for trumps. It's his taylor underpants

Yeah, it's his taylor. Um, I think it's I think he's trying to imply that it's steven miller Based on a clip that he plays later But I I don't think that's true. I don't think steven miller talked to alex I don't think steven miller write briefings for him No And advise him specifically on the memo that he had Dealing with and I was authorized to say this because they don't care if the president knows who it is because the president Does he want this to be a secret? Uh, the memo that the president trump had when he was

The briefing he got before he interviewed jack dorsi of twitter and the other person was one of the falsely accused russia gate individuals Who was not involved? But it worked in eastern europe for the cia And the clintons knew that he'd worked for them and he was brought back in he's been on the show before And he met with the president on tuesday in the oval office and the president said i'm going after him Damn the torpedoes. Have you seen what hillary clinton's saying? I'm sick of these crooks Trump's got all the intel now. He actually knows how they've sold us out

And he's just got like total proof that they're globalist criminals that hate the country And i'm giving some specifics here for the deep state that's corrupt to realize how defeated you are Yeah, I don't know. I don't know if those are specifics alex. I think those are vagaries Is alex talking to himself now trying to like build himself up? It's like it does feel that way It sounds like he's given himself like a pep talk. He's like I know all this information because I and three people confirmed it And so i'm telling me over and over and over again that this lie is true And did you get like the sense of what the big news is that these three people told him? Yeah, it's that trump is gonna lock her up. Yeah, he's gonna lock her up

I mean it's election season is heating up. Of course you got to bring this narrative back It works so well last time. Yeah, wasn't that his quote like trump's quote at one of those rallies that like locker up It worked real well. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, of course Do you think they're gonna try again? Do you think they're gonna try again? I want to see them. I want to see him try the locker up again No, I mean they're gonna try it in terms of the chant and they like saying we're going to do something right But I don't think there's any chance that uh, they go that route. I you know what I might say that uh, you know

Uh, that would be that would be fun to quote alex if they do katie bar the door because that's trouble That's when we know that like uh-oh We have crossed a rubicon of Uh, this is this is much worse than it was I just I just can't help but get the thought out of my mind how absurd and laughable it would be if one of trump's major re-election platforms was We're finally gonna put hillary in prison Of course just like I think huh. I think you'll do that trying to get a third term too

quite frankly Third fourth fifth. Yeah. Yeah, of course locker up. It's an evergreen thing. It is it is Some people are always gonna want to put hillary in jail. Yeah, that's just a true thing and these three people Yes, I've told alex. Uh-huh that uh, we're gonna do it. It's gonna be great Gonna do it gonna trump is gonna make his move sure now again alex has to reiterate He has permission to say who these people are but he's not going to And then his his language gets pretty interesting I was told by two of the three. I could go ahead and tell you all this

But I decided not to just to leave it out of it. But just to give the little breadcrumbs Breadcrumbs is a very specific qanon language the idea of the little clues that q leaves. Yeah, those are breadcrumbs Oh, no alex using that terminology. I don't think is a coincidence. I don't think that's an accident Oh, shit, because that's also a huge part of the qanon is that he's gonna lock up all kinds of people Right. Yeah, I mean that is a huge part of qanon, but that's also a lot of yeah Everybody's kind of fine with pretty much anyone who's close to supporting trump is also kind of into the idea of Jailing political enemies. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, at least mostly. Yeah. Yeah so all these people are saying that trump is about to lock people up and deep states going down and

alex is leaving breadcrumbs of clues about who these people are one of them's trump's friend one of Someone was caught up in the russia investigation unfairly. That could be fucking anybody. Yeah, according to alex So Here's the here's the real thing though alex even knows that this isn't going to happen And so he couches his reporting on it very carefully So and as listeners you already know all these facts You already know this is researchers, but now it's coming to a head and i'm telling you Trump changes his mind sometimes, but right now

he fully intends to damn the torpedoes go straight at him and The fact that hillary shot her mouth off and other things just means that he's probably not going to turn back now So that means we need to pray for the president And we need to also understand they're going to really try to assassinate him now Or they're going to try some type of big false flag. I mean, they're not going to take this lying down So You hear in there I mean, there's the sensational end to his comments

But the big point is in being like now the president changes his mind a lot. So, you know, this might not happen But right now he intends to yeah, I heard that I heard that just being like what fuck off Yeah, so when it doesn't happen After he you know uses this as a rallying cry to get the dum-dums on board for this election cycle Then once it doesn't happen, Alex would be like, ah, he changes his mind You know, dude, we we at the time we were right, of course That's when he uh, I It never ceases to amaze me whenever I stop and actually comprehend what's going on right now

one political party is centered around a lunatic who Legitimately wants to lock up his political opponents or and put them in jail or possibly even scarier Yeah, wants to create a grassroots movement based on the perception that he wants to lock up his political Exactly, right and the other party. It's almost scarier if it's fake the other party Uh Knowing full well that that very leader has committed crimes that does that are worthy of jail time

Is constantly saying well, we shouldn't even get rid of him as president for political reasons It's weird. Isn't that weird? I know um a lot of times Isn't that hard to like I I try it's like the it's too glaring. I try and look away from it It's so bright and it also makes you really feel uh, despondent. Yeah, uh, and that's an easy feeling to have Yeah, uh, especially as we enter now Where I think I warned you earlier maybe even before the episode that uh, you know, things are gonna be bad And uh, here's where it starts getting real bad. Oh, no, uh, and actually, you know, as bad as this next clip is There's a part of me that actually is glad that alex is this overt because it's so overt

Um, are we getting into civil war territory? No, okay. That's good, but maybe worse. Okay. Well, that's bad Because he's so over it leaves very little room for him to be able to defend himself. Yeah. Yeah And this next clip here from the 25th is where it's just like this is inexcusable You're damn right. I'm islamic of it Muslims have invaded the whole world. They always Hit 10% and start bombing. It's their orders from Muhammad. What? Burning bombings Stabbing raping

Kidnapping when they hit the magic number 10% and Sri Lanka is now according to the latest census a year ago at 9.6 And muslims breed faster anybody else on earth their religion does an average of over five kids So, you know the new census when it comes out will show about 10 and a half percent and right when they pass the 10 percent bombings and suit And then they push You out of the enclaves they always target the a smaller minority than them They bomb that group the Christians are only seven percent

So they'll drive them out of the country out of their neighborhoods and then they'll move on to the next group So that's how the operation works It's a program So like I said pretty over Um that clip that we just heard there Jordan. That is a rationalization for ethnic cleansing. You're and simple Alex isn't talking about radical terrorists who happen to be muslims. Alex is talking about demographic rates as a whole He's talking about every single muslim in every country is being part of a growing problem Yeah, even if they are not terrorists or affiliated with the terrorist groups simply by virtue of

Existing within that part of the growing part of the 10 percent Yeah, consider the implications of what he's saying He's saying that once muslims make up 10 of a country's population They're commanded by muhammad to start bombing people If you believe that then the solution to the problem is to keep muslim populations below 10 of any geographical region But how are you gonna do that? I guess one option would be forced deportations to displace people And make sure there's never enough of them somewhere to scare you Of course the u.s. Did this to approximately 1.3 million mexican americans in 1954 with a very racistly named operation wetback

The consequences of that action have been unfathomable with american citizens of mexican heritage being forcefully displaced Into unfamiliar parts of mexico where they knew no one Generational wealth for countless families was completely disrupted as were the families themselves This is a deep stain in our country's history in the 65 years since have shown that mass deportation does not work And the effect it has on people and communities is equivalent to terror So if history shows us that these forced deportations based on religion or ethnicity kind of amount to ethnic cleansing crimes against humanity Then you'd have to make sure that the muslim population of an area never reaches 10 percent So you never have to deal with you know getting it down below

But legitimately, how would you ever go about doing that without some kind of eugenics? You'd need to enact ethnic or religiously based breeding limitations Which seems like something alex would be super against given that he spent most of his career yelling about the horrors of china's one child policy The system would necessarily imply the need to set up a hierarchical system where u.s. Citizens who were muslims had human rights only so far as the non-buslim government officials allowed them to What alex would be advocating for is a total totalitarian nightmare that far exceeds any of his dumb ass fema camp fantasies And require a ridiculously powerful centralized government in order to be put in place Ultimately if the problem you think exists in the world is that there's too many muslims

And once there's a certain number of them they kill everyone then you are soft pitching genocide This 10 number he's rattling on about is arbitrary It's just the focus of his bigotry But if you as a listener accept the premise that 10 percent is this magic number where trouble starts How easy is it going to be for alex to turn around and say whoops? I had it wrong that a number is actually seven percent Once you accept the logic of any number that number can change to suit a propagandist's whim And no percentage is ever going to be low enough for someone like alex to say all right. That's a good number of muslims

This is really fucked up Yep, I I can't say enough This is this is the introductory step towards rhetoric justifying and advocating for ethnic cleansing And this is this is the sort of language that really really gets people hurt Or has the potential to we're we're we're well past. We're well past potential So when we hear alex say things like that one of the things I mean, it's just awful. I mean, obviously awful. Yeah, awful And it should make it Kind of less surprising that he follows it up by saying things like this

But remember what I said over and over again when they were having calls to prayer not just here but all over the world after the tragic New Zealand attack that killed 49 people and we were hearing that christianity and white people are inherently evil and the greatest terrorist He did it live stream part of it Which we're obviously not showing because of who these people were He did it because of the god they worshiped him because of the threat He seemed to think they posed to the white race and that islam is peaceful and i'm like Thousands of churches blown up a year hundreds blown up a year in the middle east Fire bombed 800 plus bombed or burned down in france and there's almost no coverage of it

alex is basically defending and justifying the motivations of the christ church shooter. Yep I I think I think what I would like Because we know with alex we know what his goal is we know what the the the goal is basically to make a lot of money And that's a big part of it and be just in general a piece of shit along the way But for his listeners and that kind of thing What are what are their goals? What do they think that they are working towards? What do they think that they're they're achieving and do they know? If and if they do know what that is

Are they trying to actually do that or are they just trying to be cruel? I think and awful I think it's what you see over and over again with all of these sorts of situations where the people On the ground probably just want to live a good life They want to live a stable life where their values are are accepted and and validated They can live in a community where they feel comfortable. Uh, they can live uh, the reasonably healthy lives And uh, uh be employed in some capacity that they feel gratified by But there are people like alex and there are people, you know propagandists Of all of all variety

That creates scapegoats and they're very it's a very compelling and very powerful Thing to exploit in somebody. Yeah, and so people like alex people like, uh, I mean historically there have been hundreds of uh of him Yeah, and what they do is they create this perception that x y or z group is the reason why you can't enjoy your life the way That you feel like you should Um, whether or not, uh, the there's any truth to it, you know, there's obviously Very real reasons why people aren't able to live as comfortably and happily as they would like Uh, but distracting from that by scapegoating some population is way easier

So you get people to jump on board with your scapegoat, uh and demonizing that scapegoat as if If we can just deal with that issue, we'll have what we want. We will have that thing that we want So I think that's the motivation of a lot of people who buy into this stuff. Yeah Whether or not they're conscious of it or not it turn it it very quickly transmutes into like Outright hate. Yeah, it it changes fast. I think yeah, and I'm I'm I was I was thinking about this along the way like I was thinking about the concept of the brain virus that we've talked about Over and over and over again how this is this is an actual disease. It's like you were saying most of these people really just want a

Normal good, you know good life. I would say most people there's there's there's outliers who are just outright Violent and of course. Well, yeah, they're yeah, they're on a chance to pull a message board and And and in the woods Yeah, there's well, yeah, absolutely. It's not uh, it's It's not unique to one place, but I take your point You're it's fair and and I in like how do we treat regular like like trying to inoculate people? Because we don't we don't know what the cure is But maybe we could try and inoculate people in their youth, but I think we can't even get people to take vaccines for actual

Diseases how do you how could we ever convince enough people to train them on? Finding and discovering propaganda. You know Like it's such a huge thing Yeah, so in this next club still on the 25th here Alex gets into like he teased a little bit earlier talking about charlotte'sville and how everyone was actors and stuff like that and whatever All the nazis were fake. They're all flawless Um in this next clip. I think what he's doing is I think you could fairly call it

a wholesale revision Joe biden launches his campaign on the lie The trump said neo nazis were very fine people. You know, I Wondered why when charlotte'sville happened Almost two years ago now raffle trump got into office. Ha I got sued And the suit against myself lee lee and macadoo um least ran a hand

uh Former congressman and others said that we said That the democrats killed the woman who Had a heart attack or got bumped by a car What we said that the police stood down hurted the white supremacist and journalist and just by standards It's called kettling Into antifa and allowed them to attack creating a hysterical melee

So the first thing I want to say is that like alex complains a ton about joe biden announcing any voking charlotte'sville And uh, we're not gonna listen to any of that because fair enough. Yeah, yeah, i'm not gonna not gonna sit here Like joe biden is great to Fuck off. Nope. Fuck him. Um, so alex also though. I think probably more importantly for our purposes He's completely misrepresenting what he's being sued for about charlotte'sville And the white supremacist rally that occurred there alex isn't being sued by george soros or the deep state or some shadowy globalist conspiracy

And he's not being sued for saying that the democrats killed anyone He's being sued by one person whose name he knows better than to ever say on air again Because that person has been very consistent and public about how he's never going to settle this lawsuit That person is brennan gilmore who's suing alex for defaming him and causing harassment Including allegedly uh, his own doxing as well as a quote unknown chemical being mailed to his parent's house in late march 2019 Uh, about a month ago

us district judge norman moon ruled that alex's publications as well as those of a number of other defendants Were the cause of brennan gilmore's alleged injuries and as such a first amendment defense is inappropriate Which takes away one of alex's only legs that he ever feels safe standing on Put simply this lawsuit could be big trouble for alex if the judge has already made clear that first amendment complaints Aren't relevant. It cannot be introduced. Yeah, then he's fucked Well until appeal perhaps right. Oh, that's a good point, but he doesn't really have much of uh, uh, ground for defense Right in terms of this and he would have to find an appeals court that would take up the case because a Reasonable appeals court would almost certainly be like no you you're done fucked up

Well and one of alex's complaints is that like I didn't mail in these Things and and stuff like that and just realized and the court already has said that What precipitated that harassment is things that you and these other co-defendants published So that argument doesn't work either. Yeah, so I just I just remembered I it sound it sounds so banal coming out of my mouth because it seems so it's something that we've just normalized but There are appeals courts that are completely different than other appeals courts. Yeah, you know, doesn't that mean? Yeah, it doesn't that mean the law doesn't really mean anything If if you that's but that's how the judicial system works

There are people there's stuff that's open to interpretation and then there's established law Right. No, I residents and things like that I mean, I mean the difference in in ideology from appeals court to appeals court where somebody will say like this is a very Yeah, a regular thing is like well, we're gonna go to the seventh court of appeals because it's gonna give us a ruling that Is like this but I don't as opposed to the ninth court of appeals, which we know is going to give us a different ruling Yeah, but you know, doesn't that seem insane? You don't get really to choose though because they're over different Like districts in the united states, right? It's not like if you appeal your court. You're like, I'm going to the third

Well, that's that's what major corporations do though is that they find different ways to move it to the court that's going to be most Favorable to them. I know that there are differences, but I think it's probably slightly less pronounced than we think That's probably true I think I think that the idea that the ninth circuit is some sort of a liberal bugaboo to uh, conservative politics is probably A conservative talking point. I think that well, there are other ones that are bugaboos to the liberal Sure, and I that's the whole and I bet the scale of it is

Much less than we think that's probably true. I think that most of it probably airs towards Uh, the law right I'm gonna put heavy scare quotes around that So jordan, here's the thing on the day of the unite the right rally in charlotte'sville Info wars had a very serious problem on their hands The whole thing was terrible optics alex could and would be totally fine defending people who were protesting to protect the statue of Robert E. Lee

That's old hat for him But what's a little bit more of a difficult move to pull off is defending a large group of white dudes with tiki torches marching around yelling Jews will not replace us and blood and soil One of the things that's important to remember about this rally is spelled out in its name The rally was ostensibly about protecting this statue and preserving history But it's probably worth mentioning that in may 2017 richard spencer Let a rally for the same purpose there in july 2017 the kkk held a rally against the statue's removal there And in august 2017 the unite the right rally was held at the same

Place for the same alleged purpose involving both members of the clan and richard spencer as participants It's not hard to see what was being united there This confluence of things was a major problem for alex His brand doesn't work so well when he's associating himself with literal nazis and white supremacists As it kind of makes his the left just calls everyone they disagree with nazis argument fall apart Yeah, if he's actually just hanging out and being like look at those nazis, they're great But at the same time he can't not have a comment about this giant culture war battle that's unfolding in front of him Particularly one where he feels the confederacy is possibly under attack as we know his family literally fought for the confederacy

If he comes down squarely on the side of the dudes with tiki torches and nazi regalia He knows that that's kind of a dead end for him from a narrative perspective Particularly after the protests turn violent Conversely, there's no way in hell He's going to land on the side of the anti fascist counter demonstrators And there's similarly no chance that his audience is going to let him sit this one out and say I don't know what's going on here Literally the only path available to him was to deny that the bad guys at charlottesville were actually bad guys

They were in fact agents of the globalists pretending to be nazis and white supremacists At 1 42 p.m. James fields jr. A legit nazi from way back who was photographed at the rally proudly sporting a vanguard america shield Rammed his car into a group of counter demonstrators injuring 19 People and killing heather hayer The evidence is overwhelming that this was an intentional attack and all the conspiracy theories trying to explain away his actions And paying him as some kind of a victim in the whole thing have been thoroughly debunked And he has been sentenced to life in prison So as of at least 143 p.m. You had a rally that alex can neither support nor condemn that has led to a murder

The stakes have been raised and in order for him to maintain his position in the marketplace of propaganda He needs to find an angle to make this whole thing fake and he needs to find that fast What he landed on is trying to discredit the person who shot the footage of fields car attack who was brennan gilmore alex's crack team of researchers the same ones that just generally report his fact whatever bullshit They find on fourchan dug up the fact that gilmore had previously worked at the state department in the us foreign service This was all it took to create the narrative that this whole thing was a deep state operation to make the patriots look bad Adding to the conspiracy was the fact that gilmore worked on tom periello's campaign Periello was an insider you see and the fact that gilmore worked for him was proof that something was up

Of course, periello hadn't held an elected position since 2011 when he ended a two-year run in the house of representatives And he lost the 2017 democratic primary alex used these pieces of evidence to spin the conspiracy that brennan gilmore was evidence that the state department was active in making the Events of charlottesville happen the accusations are wide ranging But it all seems to come back to alex and his associates alleging that gilmore was a soros operative and had something to do with the chaos at the rally Obviously these accusations are true So gilmore is suing alex and it looks like he has a pretty decent shot at the case working out I based that assessment on the fact that alex and his lawyers had had to resort to really weak defenses

Like recently they tried to claim that gilmore is a public figure So in order to prove defamation gilmore's lawyers would need to establish malicious intent gilmore's lawyers were pretty quick to point out that gilmore is not a public figure and wasn't until alex and his cohorts made him one By lying about him in spreading conspiracy theories So that is the reality of the lawsuit that alex is up against that he's trying to misrepresent and create a strawman version of To talk about because he knows better than to talk about it for real Because if he does that'll just make the lawsuit that much worse. He's fucked Now alex saying that heather hayer might have died from a heart attack is a legitimate and overt example of him using a very traceable talking point

This is something that is only expressed on nazi message boards and outlets as an attempt to take culpability for her death away from james fields This is a winking in joke that speakers know The people who say it they know that it isn't true, but it's used to signal to each other that they approve of fascist murder The talking point is based on a misspeaking that heather hayer's mother made to reporters and they needed aftermath of her daughter's death When she uh said heather had a heart attack at the scene of the attack What she had meant to express is that doctors had told her that her daughter's heart had stopped at the scene And they'd been successful in getting it to beat again, but the success was temporary Miss hayer later clarified her statement, but it didn't matter when miss hayers

Gave her initial statement. She expressed uncertainty and was way said that she was waiting on the medical examiner's report When that report came out, it was clear that heather died from blunt force trauma The only people who would come anywhere close to suggesting that heather died from a heart attack Particularly in 2019 are doing so to very specifically signal to white supremacists and nazis that they are on their side That is code And alex is using it Now, I also accept a possibility that alex is fucking stupid. I think that there's a chance that some of his Researchers and heavy quotes are using this code and alex doesn't know that

Yeah, because alex doesn't do any preparation. Right. I think that there is a possibility that he Uh is unknowingly speaking white supremacist and nazi code on air But if that's the case then the people who are doing his work for him. Yeah are intentionally feeding him that yeah, so There's no good way For that to shake out. No, no, I did not I did not even think about that I just assumed that the heart attack was just some run of the mill conspiracy theory that everybody does but yeah Why would anybody insist otherwise unless they were trying to Make sure nazis look better. Yeah

and uh The the fact that it's become almost like a meme kind of uh is is important for what's being transmitted when it's said So now to the question of police ordering a stand down and kenneling protesters Which alex seems to think is all he said and that's you know, like all that's all my coverage was He's saying that they kenneled these protesters and counter protesters together This is a little bit more of an open question than I actually wish it was This one bums me out a little there are valid criticisms of the police department And some of them are pretty close to what alex is claiming

But the context and surrounding information and the way alex presents his narratives make it so it's pretty much alex Is still pretty much full of shit The police chief in charlottesville as well as the city's spokesperson and mayor have all gone on record and explicitly said that There was no stand down order put out that day The aclu is theorized that the police were hanging back and waiting for violence to break out So that they could have a reason to clear the area knowing that violence was inevitable That theory seems fairly plausible But also hasn't been proven uh to have been uh the like an actual stand down strategy

Anything like that the police were employing. It just seems like it seems to match with what happened what occurred. Yeah, but there is still is Is not based on evidence right right? You would have to you would have to prove what would almost certainly be something that was just like generally agreed upon Uh by just uh in in action and like following the leader, I guess well, there's there's some information coming So factcheck.org research the claims of a police stand down and not too surprisingly the only evidence they found for it comes from Your news wire and truth uncensored net to completely full of shit conspiracy websites The two sites feature a quote from an alleged charlottesville police officer who is anonymous, of course surprise Who said quote we were ordered to bring the rival groups together as soon as they were in contact with each other

We were told to stand down. It was outrageous. We weren't allowed to arrest anyone without asking the mayor first We weren't even allowed to stop the driver as he sped away The event was being set up as far back as at least may and it went like clockwork We want to do our job and keep the peace but these motherfuckers in charge really want to destroy america First thing that is a hell of a fake quote. Well the first thing that's that should jump out at you Is it's been uh in plan since at least may oh, yeah, that's when richard spencer's rally was So it's sort of tying all the uh rallies that have happened in charlottesville together as part of the globalist plan You know, you know, if you've read if you've read enough news

You can kind of get the feel for when somebody gives too good a quote Yeah, that's a real good quote is such a you can see the newsroom you can see the newsroom being like man That's a great quote. How did you get that? Oh, you can't reveal your source to me. All right. Well, that's the same story that all of the made up quotes guys But that's why this didn't get any coverage in real media Yeah, but on those two websites it did and you're saying it's a really good quote But there's one piece of it that you probably don't understand that actually makes this a very bad quote As a fake quote

One of the reasons that this you can tell this is an obviously a fake Cop making a fake statement is because he says that they weren't allowed to arrest anyone without asking the mayor This is an intrinsic misunderstanding of how the city of charlottesville civic structure works In any cop with any information about the departmental operations would absolutely not make that mistake charlottesville operates under a city Manager form of government where the mayor is not voted into office But is selected by elected city council members The position of mayor is largely ceremonial in terms of duties and would have literally no authority over whether or not to arrest

Anyone at a protest. This is a glaring example of this being clearly a ronius insider information It's clearly disseminated to produce a false narrative not to report fact, right? The mayor is you know, just like presides over city council meetings and stuff like that It's not it's not into over the police department right and in 1992 it was a dog for six months, right? Might as well. Yeah, I'm not that's not fair, but might as well But so you understand like anybody who would be making this sort of Information she would know that right. No, that's that's what I've meant by saying that's too good a quote That's obviously that's so obviously fake that it's it's yeah, and the thing is

That fake anonymous cops bullshit story doesn't match any other documented reality But it does closely match up with alex's spin on the rally I have almost zero doubt when alex says the police have come out and admitted that there was a stand down Literally the only thing he's basing that on is this fake anonymous quote published on a couple of bullshit Conspiracy sites that is interns frequent to steal content. I'm pretty sure Yeah, that sounds right. But now here's where things get a little bit murky In march 2018 a foyer request Made public an internal police memo from august 7th days before the charlottesville rally

In the memo there was discussion of how the permit for the rally had been granted with a prediction of 400 people attending But the intelligence gathered indicated that it would be way more people than that and that violence was a very likely outcome The memo explicitly said quote officers should keep close watch of the crowd members who were exhibiting behaviors Which could become violent officers should make arrests when appropriate for unlawful behavior and should use issued flex cuffs as restraints Granted this plan was not followed through on owing largely to shitty communication and contradictory orders Many of which seemed to prioritize police officers safety over civilian safety police allocated manpower in horrible fashion and there seemed to be almost no coordination or shared responsibilities between the charlottesville police department And virginia state police who served basically as park security as opposed to getting involved in active crowd control

Which was desperately needed There was no stand-down order, but there was terrible policing going on there Police chief al thomas was alleged to have said quote let them fight It'll make it easier to declare an unlawful assembly as the rally was starting to turn ugly But even this doesn't constitute a stand-down order Also, thomas insists he didn't say that and that his position was that he wanted to quote see how things played out Either way, okay, either way. All right. That that helps not a better that helps not a better position No, I didn't want him to die

I wanted people to see if he died either way thomas resigned in disgrace by the end of 2017 Good call an investigation done by us attorney timothy heafy Found that the city was over confident in their ability to deal with what was coming And because of that it failed to predict protect their community in myriad ways But it found no evidence of a stand stand-down order But of course alex knows better He has sources like that fake anonymous cop who was quoted in your news wire So all this stuff is is is bullshit. It's it's nonsense

Um There is a more complicated reality behind the lies that alex is saying yeah That that's what I was sort of alluding to is like there's a he's a little bit closer to reality than I like him to be Right on this right because it would be nice to just be able to say no the police acted Well, they did a good job and yeah, it's not it's not the reality Yeah, if they had done a good job somebody wouldn't be most likely wouldn't be dead and in their deficiencies and in their failures To manage the crowd appropriately Um, they did end up having uh, you know counter demonstrators and uh, the people who were

Awful ended up in close proximity to each other Which is something that had they have planned appropriately and followed the plan as was stated in that uh, august 7th Release it might not have gone that poorly. Did they purposefully kennel? Probably not Did they functionally kennel? Probably You know and there's a big difference. There is a very big difference. Um, so alex is wrong about pretty much everything Yeah, I mean this isn't news for us. No

But he has other evidence than uh, this fake cop on your news wire and uh, man this Of all the things that could possibly happen like uh, I don't think I'm looking forward to Hearing about the sandy hook lawsuits as they progress. You know, I think that'll be probably Real Mucky. Yeah, not not fun. Yeah, and and certainly charlottesville's Equally, I'm not equally maybe I don't know. I don't want to put a scale on it. It's also a traumatic Uh, great way of putting it. Yeah, um, but I do think that there's potential for alex really embarrassing himself in court

If he follows through with this strategy, I fucking pray he does And if you started the fight the police made them collide together. That's what trump said That turns into trump's a light supremacist. So they think this one got exposed a year and a half ago We exposed it. So they got pissed We got the middle of their talking points that we were going to point out that The democrats did orchestrate this and we got documents showing that democrats had orchestrated other riots in maryland Which would be very powerful in court Oh

Soros and his son alexander He's going to introduce The fucking bogus ass soros and tifa contracts that he found on fortan into court. I Pray that he does that. I beg of him To introduce that in the court. See how quickly that turns into our sir Mr. Jones, I beg of you Oh my god, that would be amazing. Okay, mr. Jones. First off, this is stupid. Right. This is very stupid Second the evidence that you are providing is related to something

That has nothing to do with this situation right here And is a hoax. Yes uh, so sir, uh, please leave I think I think whatever whatever that guy wants he gets you're done I think alex introducing that into court like could like I mean not just because of introducing it but because I think obviously the court would be like nah Yeah, and then alex's response to that I think could lead to a contempt of court charge. That would be great I think alex might uh might end up screaming about how this is a soros cover up or something

You know, he was always meant to teach a bullhorn class in prison He does also seem like like there is a part of me that thinks that he believes that those contracts are real It does sound like it like if he would go so far as to introduce them in court Like I don't think you would pull that sort of a bluff if you knew that they were bullshit Yeah, he I think it could be such an embarrassing chapter Like the optics of him arguing what america well, certainly Yeah, but for alex too like the idea of him trying to argue in court that those are real Holy shit, that would be amazing. Sir under oath. Where did you find those?

Wow, there's one guy, uh Posted a mono anonymous message board saying that he found them in his brother's stuff. Um Yeah, I know it sounds stupid. Yeah. Yeah, okay saying it out loud in court does make it sound worse than I Previously thought it feels better on a radio show. It does feel better when nobody can say anything and nobody's like actually looking at me It feels better. Yeah, can we do can we do this uh court thing on the radio? It's better for my process Can we get the judge in the plaintiff to uh to call in on my radio show and we'll be able to really get this one done When I take the stand, can I come up to moby?

Can I come up to highway man coming up to the stand? Can I get the imperial march? Um, so we jump off these topics and now alex is going to talk about how trump has All of the best moves not dance moves. He has all the moves at his disposal like he's playing poker with the globalists Yeah Now listen carefully to this and see if you can see where my mind was like hold on now They know trump has it all And he's sitting back basically like a hundred card decks And the globalists have them

That's too many cards a couple of wands a couple of fours A couple of queens maybe a joker. Are they playing war? In fact, all they've got's a handful of jokers to bluff And trump's got Hundreds of card decks. He just pulled out nothing but eights of spades if he wants He'd have all the royal flushes he wants royal flush royal flush royal flush royal flush But he's got to play the royal flush. He has them dead

in the sites I have three problems with that 40 second clip. What the first is that there are no ones alex says the globalists have some ones There's no one if you have a one you have a fucked up deck of cards Someone's cheating. Yeah to Trump having a bunch of decks Also, probably hundred decks hundreds of decks probably cheating. No No collusion

No collusion no deck collusion third Are jokers wild? Because if so if you have a handful of jokers, that means you've got a royal flush That's true. It means you have as whatever fucking hand you want if you've got a handful of jokers If jokers aren't wild, this is a misdeal And also, where are the pinnacle instructions? Right? What card is that one? What are we playing? We play an Omaha high low If you play an Omaha high low having a one and a four is probably a good hand because it could play at low

Also, what what does this mean? What is this? What is this poker game where in one side only has a few cards and the other side has hundreds of decks? Honestly that could be played at any moment. I think a couple of fours and a couple of queens is not a bad hand That's a couple pairs. Yeah, that's two pairs. Yeah queen high two pair Terrible played enough poker in my time to know that you're gonna win a good amount of hands Also, if i'm the globalist in this situation and we're playing poker And one guy has hundreds of decks and I have a few cards

My thought is gonna be I don't want to play this game No, so I'm gonna play a different game and you can have fun with your cards Right, you got to know when to hold them when to fold them know when to walk away When to run Mr. Rogers not the guy with the neighborhood the other one he taught us about what to do with cards sometimes you've got to run So in this next clip Alex expresses his fictionalized version of that Charlottesville lawsuit And I only keep this in because we get another impression a new impression Towards the end of this

Yes, the death is on your hands Obama Hillary Soros Alexander Soros not a democrat Cameraman who's worked for Hillary who we just said look how it's perfect They got a bunch of leftists there the leftists knew the conflagration was coming. They knew the collapse was coming They knew the explosion was coming Doesn't mean they the individuals killed the woman

But then they twist And then in my name said that I say some guy killed the woman and then he sues me You see how it works You see how it works. We keep the baby alive in virginia Then we get the little juicy organs But he's not the villain the governor talking like this in a sweet southern voice. Is that burning a little blood ball Little flesh ball. It's alex jones. He's the bad one everywhere. He questions things So alex is trying to do an impression of ralph northam. I believe the uh governor of virginia

The problem is like the time frame that he's talking about is like Before he was governor. Yeah northam didn't get into office until 2018 um, so this after So I don't know what's going on there, but I think what I want to point out here very importantly is this was on the 25th alex is Re bringing up his uh governor northam wants to kill babies after they're born Kind of rhetoric, which is a big thing that he's been pushing lately And uh last night as we're recording this on friday night trump or saturday night

Excuse me trump had a rally in green bay, which he did instead of going to face criticism at the uh the correspondence dinner Which he literally told all of his staff They're not allowed to go to after sarah sanders got embarrassed last year. Well, they were mean. They're very mean They were so mean But the snowflakes were mean by the way. The snowflakes were mean. They were mean those snowflakes And and they just didn't want these alphas to feel so strong in response to that The strongest of all the alphas made an order that no one associated with him is allowed to go to the snowflake dinner Yeah, I cried and took his ball and went home. Well, not like a man. Not home. He went to green bay to hold one of his

totally not authoritarian home The rallies. Yeah, uh, but at the rally trump talked about The idea that after babies are born they wrap them up and then they the mother and the doctor decide whether or not to execute it Yeah, um And that's mirroring alex's rhetoric. Yeah something and alex isn't alone in in those uh narratives which aren't real and aren't true at all, right? Um, But you see this now the bleeding is

Is going into overdrive the the idea that a sitting president would uh, push Info wars narratives to a screaming crowd of crazies um Is uh, it's dangerous. It kind of makes you feel we're past a point of uh decency It kind of makes you feel like the 25th amendment was not didn't even need to be ratified. Oh, man It needs to be used

But it did need to be ratified because clearly we're not going to use it I mean if we're not now, I don't I don't know. I can't imagine the scenario like what if bernie gets in and he just like like Bad bad example to use a specific person. Yeah, let's imagine uh um Person jerry lewis sure wins the next election as a democrat Yeah, it starts running around drunk with a layup shade on his head. Yeah in the white house

Is that 25th amendment level? What what are his policy positions? I can't I can't yeah if this isn't enough if it's not enough I can't imagine a scenario where it would be enough. Yeah, right? It's like even then is like Isn't he just too dumb aren't we at the place where it's just like oh, you're too dumb you're too dumb That's 25th amendment. Yeah, isn't that a certain that's it's insane. Well, I mean, what's the point? I think you could make a pretty robust argument just from like, um Whether or not there's like mental deterioration and and you know that sort of thing like what you're doing is a danger to people

Yeah, you being in office is a severe danger to people's safety. Yeah, whether it's uh reproductive rights workers Who now have to worry about tons of people believing that they're executing babies And that it's justified to shoot and bomb them as has been done in the past Or whether it's muslims who uh have People who are emboldened by trump like alex coming out and expressing that there can only be under 10 of a population Being muslim or else they will bomb all of us. Um, I I yeah, I just I think that you could make a pretty robust argument that trump being an office is a danger to the safety of

A lot of people but of course if you tried to make those arguments alex and his propaganda cohorts would be like Yeah, he's a danger to the globalist system. Yeah. Yeah, and that's really what they're afraid of So, I mean, we're just in a dead end. Yeah. Well, I mean it's and it's Yeah, it's so disappointing whenever you like whenever you read twitter saying we can't we can't get rid of Nazi hate speech because our algorithm Mixes it up with republican speech and you're like, you bet guys guys. Come on. Yeah, come on guys You didn't even word that right. Yeah, what you should have said was we can't get rid of the Nazi hate speech because it's what republicans say too. Yeah

So this is this now we get into some an interesting territory I Was not super surprised by hearing alex's talk about charlottesville the way he was he was talking about it Because that's fairly in line with the stuff he said in the past. Yeah, this next stretch Was crazy. Okay, and that is that I think alex Is trying to present the idea that all of the nazis and white supremacists that were at charlottesville Were not only actors Were not only what democratic deep state operatives

They were all gay What If you actually look at all these men and look at their behavior and look at how they're acting This is the acting club and this is the drama club from surrounding universities and I mean it's Basically a giant gay dress-up party with a bunch of gay men Dressed up as nazis in their giant jesse small event. Okay. Whoa. All right. Whoa. All right, buddy That was did did he just he just got a yatsi. I think that was a yatsi

What the fuck just happened so when I heard that I was like that's new That is new. It's all a bunch of gay dressed up like nazis having a jesse small event Wow, so I thought that was it and then alex follows it up with this doubling the fuck down And I've I've had the leaders of it on like yes I wasn't a big obama supporter until a year ago or yes I was for hillary until town but my alex was so handsome today What and again look I understand the gay guys are thinking they got to go fight trump or whatever and they've got to fight the racism

What this is really bad You've got to give it up to this bottle And and that's what it is now. There's some real white supremacists that join the group Did I see some real clan guys out there like hillbilly like? Yeah, there was a few. Whoa, he just threw that word down the vast majority go to local colleges and they dressed up As nazis To go out and do this. I mean just look at the footage. It's

Ridiculous So he's really he's really this is not something I've heard him say in the past the idea that it was a bunch of gay dudes Who are running around like nazis and I gotta I gotta be honest like the idea of the actor stuff is like Yeah, all right. I expect that from you alex, but like he's very insistent about the gay piece He really is yeah Really insistent really is listen to this. I really think he's dropped the n-word too I think he muddled I think he was I think he was I'm not sure. Yeah, we'll let the forensic analysis Yeah, analysts who are listening decide on that one. Um, but listen to this. He's so insistent about this gay stuff

People have all those little nilly waddling. I mean, you know, there were tops of gay guys You got the big tough gay guys. Do you got that? And you go see all the little sissy flamer guys going Hit boy, we love him Oh I mean give me a break man He's so mad. I don't know what's cool. I don't know what we're What he's so bad. He's so bad

What is happening? He's so mad about these imaginary gay people who are dressed up like nazis Just so he doesn't have to deal with the fact that there are a bunch of white supremacists in nazis that love the same guy He loves for the same reasons Uh Okay, this is like him getting super mad about how much he agrees with david duke. That is insane. It's crazy. That is absolute Here's here's here. Here's what we're gonna do alex. We got our new angle This way you don't have to say that you love white supremacists. Call them gay Done move on next. They're just lawsuit. They're just gay democrat actors. Yep. Woo. Um, what time has shown

That a lot of the people who have been identified, uh, who were nazis at that rally First of all art gay, uh art actors and are not democrats who were recruited from area colleges Yeah, so this this well, there were a few white supremacists Do do boo boo. I like I like his southern accent where it just sounds like him And I love yeah, I love the idea that he's doing that sort of disparagingly to the people of the south who he claims He loves so much and everyone else thinks are stupid. Yeah, um, but Much like those soros antifa documents. I would love for him to try and introduce this into court Please

Because jordan, here's the thing you're on here, uh, not guilty by reason of homophobia. Uh, you're on earth. These are clearly existing flamers They are not at all Trump supporters Objection Objection, I I guess sustained. I don't know. I don't know So alex has one piece of evidence that uh, I think is probably incontrovertible It would definitely stand wait one piece of evidence that these are all I'm being very Actors no, no, no, I understand but all right

This is evidence for them all being gay I think part of it is that they're wearing button-up shirts when they were holding the tiki torches And yelling the blood and soil and shit. Well, we all roundly mocked what they looked like then Right, but it was more because they were looked like they were all in golf outfits. Right exactly look very much, but alex plays some video And this is this is his sort of definitive evidence that these aren't real nazis And they all just run around like I mean you you look at the bottle look at how the guys are running. Oh, yeah

We're gonna find oh, we're nazis. Oh look nazis are marching everywhere If you're following this he's basically saying that the way they run is way too gay for them to be real nazis Yeah, which shall right. All right. Let's let's see where this line of thought goes I didn't know that that was admissible in court, but okay I can't wait to depose all these people But that's why we need a war chest ladies and gentlemen I am looking forward to the Charlottesville thing to expose what really happened I'm looking forward more and more to the sandy hook thing and the depositions and all the rest of it

I see you to get dialed in on who was who who was running what we know what law firms are running and who's funding it We have all the intel we're now hooked in and we've got intel on them. And so Uh, I've been advised by high level forces that we need to just go ahead and get into this They've really miscalculated, but it's going to take funds ladies and gentlemen It's all basically an ad pivot for him needing to sell products in order to fund his defense Yeah, like so all this stuff is still kind of adpivity Like it's still sort of the prelude to I need money the idea that like all these are fake nazis They're all secretly gay democrats from local colleges acting programs. I can't wait to depose them. Listen up

I got one question for you in this deposition and remind you you're under oath Are you an undercover democratic operative who's gay? cyanide pill This isn't gonna work out well No, but it I do think it is probably gonna work out well with him getting some money from the people that he has left And you can see like this sort of thing like I need money for this war chest I'm so excited about this lawsuit that I'm really on the wrong end of Yeah, and the dude won't settle. Yeah, uh, so please give me money knockout is a hundred percent off

It you know every we say this a bit, but it's like you kind of see death rows Oh, yeah, you see like just like this isn't good Well, he's no longer operating as a business He's operating as a way to get just enough revenue to cover his bullshit And I've noticed an upward trend in the like later part of april here that alex is saying a lot more Like I come from like a community tv Uh, you public access tv. You think i'm gonna stop. I'll go back to you know, like that sort of thing I like you might be considering that as a very likely outcome

In a short amount of time But the good news is the podcasting has evolved so much since alex's early days that you could probably make a living Just doing a podcast Yeah, if if this show is any evidence, I think he could probably be just fine Yeah, probably have to sell some boats. Maybe not be able to have all that great property He'd have to sell some boats I mean he probably wouldn't be able to live up to the standard that he lives But he could get a one apartment or one bedroom apartment in Chicago. Oh, man, wouldn't that be fun? Yeah

Um, especially if he was across the hall from you. Oh, it'd be terrible I think that would be one of the only few things that would be worse than the neighbors. I currently have Yeah He knocks on your door. He's like, hey, uh, my my equipment's gone down your mind. Uh I mean, you gotta you gotta set up here. I mean, you just all right. It's just it's a three hour show It's all produced, but i'm not editing We don't we don't edit so In this next clip alex talks about this democrats pretending to be nazis plan

I want you to listen to this and just just think about how overly complicated this is As opposed to the idea that there are actual white supremacist and nazis Because the democrat plan is to Have leftist posing as nazis announce events that real nazis to come to it to all in blue cities Then reporters will come to cover it three. They'll all be called nazis four. They'll have antifa attack It'll create a melee and they'll claim a race for started. That's the mo. We got the secret documents part plan in january of 2018 Uh from the soros group from family members that got inside the antifa And those documents are real. They've not contested them. How this is they're being

That's why they don't want us on air or you on air. So they're not contested them. All right. There you go That is absolutely not proof that they're real. That's all you need. They didn't say there is a thing where like I I know in like tv and movies people will be like, I won't even dignify that with a response But in the real world when people won't dignify something with a response. They just don't say anything And for the soros group, uh, I would say Not responding to this good move. Yeah, good move. Ah, we've got these documents Yeah, and then walk away. So at the beginning of this episode, I pointed out that uh, alex Ran into max keiser and the two of them had a little talk about bitcoin and stuff like that. They talk about a lot of stuff

Um, but uh, at the end of the episode the third hour is just alex playing his interview with max keiser He just leaves. Uh, oh, he just leaves. Yeah, he isn't on air anymore. He's just like play the interview Yeah, um, and it's stupid. I don't really care. Uh, alex missed out on 50 million dollars of bitcoin or whatever. Sure Um, which is actually way more if he would have sold when it was, uh, Yeah, yeah, yeah, that would have been, yeah, that would have been 150 million But the only thing I really care about is this clip, uh, from the interview, which is who nelly Trump

Did run for president. I don't know where it can win. They try to act like he was a silver spoon It was not a self-made man. The guy has incredible charisma incredible energy And it's not like a worship fest but compared to all 18 democrat candidates He has more smarts and more energy than all of those teleprompter reading boobs So I just think the democrats should just give up and capitulate and let america be great again But they're not gonna do it. So as the depression intensifies. I agree. They're worn out for now if they're gonna come back I think there's gonna get more zany more wacky So alex is advocating that the democrats should just concede the 2020 election. Well, yeah

Like look at all these prop teleprompter reading boobs. They just give up We all know that none of them are as good a president. So why not just not have the election? So when I was younger, I you know, I was very against uh, george w bush and I um, you know was a protest the iraq war and I didn't like john carrey, but I was I supported carrey. Yeah in that election and uh, at no point did I say george w bush should concede the election Because that's fucked up. That's crazy because that's kind of similar to alex's Uh claims that like obama was gonna cancel the election and stuff like that the idea of like we shouldn't even have this democratic process Why even bother? We already know that trump is gonna win with 97 percent of the vote like very normal countries have

The only difference between him being like obama is gonna cancel the election and democrats should just give up this election Is that he's kind of being like uh, like it should be their choice But there shouldn't be an election. No, no, you're you're misunderstanding. It's very fucked up Both of them are the same obama should cancel the election by giving it up And democrats should cancel this election by quitting. Well, whatever the case. That's a really fucked up anti democratic idea That's really Here's the problem with democracy people change. Yeah, I don't like it. So how about they just quit That'd be nice. Fuck it. Yeah

So we get to the 26th And alex gets back to talking about how he has those three sources But he won't tell them tell you who they are Even though they said he could I gotta spend more time in dc, man It's just amazing the context we've got how we can just walk into any of these offices any of these facilities and talk to folks And they just give us the intel and I was told go ahead and release who told me this but I'm not gonna do it Why just to leave it at that but uh, I mean it does be it does raise the question. Why why give me a reason right?

uh You know the only thing that I could imagine is possible and I don't think this is the case But the only explanation I can come up with is Alex is trying to rope a dope the media into saying like you don't have any fucking sources and then he pulls out boom Here's who it is. Oh like that sort of thing. Okay, but I don't think that's what's happening You're thinking he's playing it close to the vest if you will well, I I know that he likes to set traps You know, they're usually bad traps. Yeah, this one's a bad. This one's a bad trap I could that's the only explanation that when as I sit here and I think about like what could be going on here

That's the only thing that makes sense other than I'm making this shit up But even then is that really a trap so much as just having to reveal information based on people asking a question Well one one way to play it is to just tell people who the person is right? That's one way to do it. That's a good start. Right. I mean, that's just what journalists might do Especially when they've been given clearance by their source to say who it is It kind of adds to the reporting and makes it seem like oh, maybe there's credibility here another possible strategy would be to Have actual sources and people have said you can say my name

Creating say my name say my name when no one is around like on a radio show When you're um, you know You can have that information and then make a big deal out of how you're not going to say who the people are Knowing that everyone knows you lie all the time. Yeah, right? So then everyone covers it and they're like this guy's fucking making this shit up He's a big old liar and it's just another example of mb and a big old fucking liar with a thick neck Then what you can do is be like The mainstream media is getting a little petty. Well

It's time So the but then once they do that you pull out your name with your real source And then you get to be like the mainstream media always lies They say that I don't have sources. Well, I do have a source And in that way you can sort of reclaim all the times you've been lying in the past Be like I could have done this any time. Yeah or something like that. Right. You create some sort of a Propaganda coup out of it. Yeah, again, I don't think that's what Alex is doing But I do see a potential strategy someone could be employing right like that hoping someone falls into the trap

And be like they're fake news. They say I lie. They're lying. Right. I see that the same way I see the the globalist plan with the charlottesville rally like somebody conceivably could be that The weird evil it's a lot of moving bonds villain But I doubt it's alex. Yeah So like the last episode ended with a really long interview with max keiser alex also spends a large portion of the beginning of this episode

Playing hannity's interview with trump. So hannity had an interview with trump on fox news Okay, alex just plays a ton of it And here is alex setting up getting into like he's about to go to that interview But the first 15 minutes or so He gets into the deep state the attempted coup and the counter strikes that are planned and the fact that They are pushing for indictments and they have all the evidence But I know they have the evidence because I was there researching and watching it all In the last three years

We were the first show to say they were illegally spying on trump now up to this point from the 25th We have the evidence of the evelyn farkas clip that alex is lying about we have larry c johnson Which is a load of bullshit and now alex brings up the uh the the hat trick of Things that we've covered on this show and our complete bullshit We then received nsa documents via the drug enforcement agency Exclusive. Oh boy. That's wiki leaks level stuff folks. Sure protected by law journalism Where trump and myself have been spied on Right after he got into office our private numbers

Everything we were saying doing we were given the the index code That broke got zero attention. It got zero attention because it's bullshit. You didn't get it from the dea You got it from denise montgomery by uh through the hands of uh, uh, joe arpio and his dumbass cold case squad uh, uh, mike zulo and uh, uh, oh You know who else larry claimant who is now suing alex along with your own coursey really? Yeah, so that's where all that information came from The propaganda attempt by uh, denise montgomery Who is a fake whistleblower who jesus christ if you want to understand that go back to our episode

It's called the denise montgomery investigation. Uh, it explains how all of this was, uh, uh trying to It involves trying to intimidate a judge. It's a mess. Oh, it's a whole mess. Yeah, that that that story is way too long to get into Yeah, but that's a that's the third piece of the trump is being spied on narrative. Yeah, which is just uh, bullshit So you have larry c johnson evelin farkas nonsense larry, uh, uh, denise montgomery You got the the propaganda comes in three the trifecta of it You got to understand if alex is using these as reinforcing that narrative He doesn't have anything in the same way that if he's trying to say that the globalists play in charlotte'sville And I have the proof it's these

Contracts I found on fourchan with soros. He doesn't have something real if you start with this That's bad That's like if you are a stand-up and your opener is shit I don't have faith that minute three is gonna get good You don't open with shit if you have something better Yeah, and that's what alex is doing. He's a stand-up who's doing a a terrible set over and over and over again um So in this next clip from the 26th alex talks about uh, how he you know, you know, he talks to trump

I'm not anymore, but he did talk to trump for a bit Hey, he's talked to trump. Okay, and in this next clip alex says what he they talked about the last time they talked And man, this is crazy And I said sir, it's because you're better than them yourself made. They're from the political class. They're all dishonorable. They're all too faced You just have to understand you're not dealing in real estate anymore He goes, I know I know alex will keep it up. We'll be talking a lot more soon I don't care about being patted on the head. I said mr. President. You don't need to call me anymore All you do is have your people watch my show and listen to my show when I do an emergency message to you

And I need you to watch him and he said he will and he does Why do you think you want to get rid of certain people in the white house? certain people Like miller and others So that's why I think that the one of the people he's pretending he talked to might have been steve miller because he specifically Is implying that miller watches his show certain people. Yeah Uh, and and you know what if anyone does it would be him. Yeah, yeah Yeah, he's the most vociferous and evil asshole I can think of but he in his evilness

I still think he's smarter than to think alex knows anything Oh, I could see steven miller wanting to use alex in some way, but not Respecting him. You know, yeah I think that he could see him as a useful idiot and maybe a fellow traveler in their racism, right? and white white ethno state creating but I can't imagine Like I would think I think that steven miller would hear like the soros documents and be like get the fuck out of here That sort of thing. I don't know. He's also one of the I don't know I don't know if he's I don't know where we are with him on the stupid v evil continuum

You know, I don't know. I don't know but I I just think that anybody But I I find it hard to believe anyone would believe alex quite frankly. Yeah, I agree Maybe I'm blinded by that that I just think that the president said in front of thousands of people that a mother and the Doctor get together to decide whether or not to kill a baby Everybody all bets are off for what people might believe. Yeah fair enough. Yeah, but you might be right. I'm just really I'm really shocked at the magnanimous gesture alex gave to say that donald trump didn't need to call him anymore Right, that was just so big of him because a lot of people A lot of people if they had the direct ear of the president, they would want the talk all the time

Well, like, hey, you know, hey drop drop drop drop. You don't need to call me anymore, but please watch my show Get your staff to watch my show. All right alex That actually kind of feels like it might be a sincere feeling that he has Yeah, I don't need to talk to you as long as I indoctrinate you right right or or something along those lines so, um, the the Sort of uh, twitter was a buzz not too long ago about the idea that alex was teaming up with qanon And like we heard earlier him bringing up like i'm leaving these bread crumbs Yeah, he's sort of evocative phrases that that harken to qanon. They're they're glimmers of that

But everyone made a bit of a classic mistake Which I think I cautioned people about and that was that alex is not teaming up with qanon You can't because qanon hates him Which is important variable to think even if alex warms up to qanon Qanon specifically doesn't like alex. I did not know that which he brings up in this next clip Massive arrest they're beginning And the the roll-up has begun the grand juries are open I'll say this too

I've been around 24 years President trump came on my show and said your reputation is amazing. I will not let you down No one knows who qanon is. It's a bunch of people on four-chan and eight-chan. It says some good things. It says some bad things But even after I've tried to be nice to do four-chan and eight-chan and the whole q thing It comes out and says jones is a Zionist shill. He's gonna get arrested all this crap Trump's daughter is married to a orthodox jew Trump is pro-israel, but you guys don't attack him because he's too big a target

But see that paradox of q becoming anti-semitic. That's not the real q if q was ever real We don't need a bunch of anti-semitic crap a bunch of anti-israel stuff. That's a diversion So you yeah, I mean it's a jumbled mess But alex doesn't like qanon because qanon doesn't like him So even if they can find common cause in terms of you know putting forth the argument that there's a bunch of arrests coming Hillary is gonna get locked up. You know, there is overlap to some of it But alex would never Allow qanon to hate him and be on the same team as him. His ego wouldn't allow it

Yeah, and there is the problem of course of authenticity Whereas alex you can hear him being like, you know, trump is coming on my show my reputation is amazing Who are you? No one knows who you are And that bleeds into this next clip where he complains more about qanon I mean, what do you think's going on here? But but the idea Again how i'm being attacked from the rear by so-called qanon. That's how I started going after qanon as they were attacking me Again, who is qanon? Oh, let's all just trust some anonymous thing that lays out breadcrumbs and says as we all go We all go and all this stuff and i'm like, okay fine. See you're there alex used the term breadcrumbs again

He's keenly aware that that is a piece of uh of qanon. It's so sad. Hold on Just leave me alone. Let me go out and be a real person in the field in the arena And it just doesn't stop And so again the question to qanon whoever it is whatever groups that magically have I could pose as qanon online start a website You're starting to get it And say whatever I wanted it's crazy It's nuts. We have the real people on we have the colonel schaffer's on we have the ron paul and rand paul's on We have the eric bolings on we we have you know tucker carlson. We're fighting the globalists. We're for real

We're getting an effect. You know our name. You know who my daddy is my mama is you've seen them be platformers you've seen them come after us and Q is just a secret critic so That should sort of give you a sense of like uh, I I still think there's a dangerous confluence of the two of them and like the Rhetoric overlapping Can be can be pretty bad. I think it's a negative net effect, but the possibility of the two uh sort of

audiences Merging and the idea of alex ever being like q is legit. We got to fucking go on board of this It's never going to happen because of the uh ego like it's just impossible Well, it struck me that it's been a long time since I've heard such a long clip of alex just whining That was well that might be because of the clips I choose. Yeah, exactly That's entirely because of the clips you choose. That's not a foreign thing to me. No, of course not But it's just like god. You're such a whiny little Yeah, he's a baby quit it. He's a loser a little titty

I was on there first and I saw the dog and everybody nobody tells me It's not uh, it's not a good. Jesus. That's sad. It's a bad look. Yeah It's a bad look for him because he's supposed to be like an alpha guy who's right at everything It's just it doesn't work, but it's pathetic this next clip is not pathetic And I think it's alex. I think you should just be doing FM radio. Yeah We are the info war I am the vaunted dread of perverts communist and globalists in hollywood trash everywhere I am the hated

the dreaded villain to the left patriot and brother in arms To those that just love freedom and common sense I'm alex jones. This is a little bit of guitar right here I Yeah, there's nothing god if he was there's nothing not to like about that He had a radio show at like 2 a.m

In some small college town and he didn't have any larger political ambitions. He'd be amazing I am the scourge of perverts friend of patriots. I am the villain alex jones That was a little bit of that guitar Oh It's those moments that are like that's good radio. That is great. That's I mean, it's so few and far between legitimately great It's so it's I would say under like a half a percent of what he does and the rest of it doesn't come close to making up for it But I love those sorts of moments because that's the kind of thing you don't hear on other sorts of shows

Like if you listen to glenn becker shon hanity's radio shows, there's no moments where they have that humanity of like Fucking doesn't that guitar? Or like that one way back that's randy roads right there. Yeah, that's right Like that sort of shit's right like ah, that's that's a and I think honestly we can laugh and enjoy That like kernel of that moment But on some level it makes it worse like it makes the bad things he says says so much worse Right because there is the humanity That's that's sort of shines through in moments like that of like aesthetically liking music

Yeah There's more of his Individual personality that's allowed to exist on the show than so many other political talk shows right which makes it kind of feel like when he says Muslims can't ever be over 10 percent in a population It's coming from a person as opposed to it being like a political talk show which makes it damning I think I think the humanity damms him. Yeah You think so and that's kind of why I like to that's kind of why I like to play moments like that

Because I think it makes it worse to me. It sounds like he's a fan boy, you know Like this sounds very this sounds very gamer gay kind of situation where it's like Listen listen to the way he talks about that listen the way he talks about the highway men and and certain movies and and He's just got that kind of like joy towards collecting something that is Underappreciated but that kind of thing and then but even that's that is part of that like funneling into that hard rights White nationalism but fine even if that's the case then that that fandom or whatever is still humanizing on some level, right?

My only argument is that uh, you know Him being presented as a person Uh can be funny because of the Uh the shift the seismic shift in tone. Yeah, um, but it also Makes it worse because then it's a person who's saying the things that he's saying. Yeah, that's more. That's more my point. Yeah so, um Alex talks a whole bunch about how trump is gonna lock her up, uh, which I mean, you know, whatever. Yeah, sure. Um, fine Roll it. He plays

A ton of that hannity interview he played for about an hour at least of his show He plays that hannity interview and then he says this which is kind of funny considering Uh, and so their whole attempted criminal operation is going down in giant flames And we just laid all that out in the last hour I know that I can't prove this to you without playing the last hour of the show. Yeah, he did not lay all that out He just played the hannity interview with trump. I'm gonna trust you on this one. He did I'm gonna give you the benefit of the doubt. He's coming in he's coming Like out to commercial and he's saying, you know, we laid it all out in the last hour

It was like, no, you you just played a softball propaganda interview with trump Uh, sitting down with sean hannity That's not laying it all out. You didn't prove anything. I I think that's I don't know. I think I I think that's funny Maybe it fell flat a little bit in the room. Well, we would need the full hour in order to get the I'm sorry. So in the in this next clip, alex show not tell that's that's all i'm saying Well, all right I would just play alex playing an interview from hannity. That would be surreal. It'd be the pain in the ass That would be awful. So um in this next clip, uh alex likes to talk about how trump is giving up a lot

In order to be president like his businesses are suffering and those sorts of things Sure But I think here in this clip alex makes a pretty compelling case that trump is profiting off the presidency I'd stay there all over again just to summit the nose the establishment because max keiser was in there and all these other cool people You want to see the bar scene of conservatives and liberals? and media matters and buzzfeed Sneaking around in there

Go have cocktails or go in there at happy hour or in the evening At trump hotel in dc and it is wild And it's a super nice hotel on top of it. I love the Do you think that might have something to do with uh, I love that black on white marble and blue on it and just the whole setup is exactly Exactly my style Like my wife was wanting to remodel the house and I said, yeah Let's do it like this. She goes. Oh, I like that. I said, yeah Let's go with the trump hotel look

Thanks for the living room and wow But I'm digressing my friends. You certainly are boy. That's sad Take your face out of his butt. Christ. That's insanely bootlegery Like yeah to a level that most don't even dare Uh approach the idea of like yeah, his hotel's aesthetic is so good I'm gonna make my house like it and my wife said it's great and I said, yeah the trump hotel look But yeah, I mean before that he is pretty much expressing the idea that this bar in this hotel has become a hot spot of people to stay at and it's because he's the president

He's profiting off that right. So we also didn't need the so the whole 25th amendment. That's out Right. Nobody's doing that. Right. So the emoluments clause. That's out. Nobody's bothering with that Um, oh doing crimes. Nobody's bothering with just the regular doing crimes laws But in terms of like profiting off it like Alex is one of his most ardent supporters and he argues very consistently that trump doesn't profit off the presidency But in that clip he's laying out a very clear argument that he is Absolutely. He doesn't give a shit. Nope. Alex doesn't give a shit. Nope So he's one last clip. Nobody likes the constitution dan. It's a bummer

Especially people who love the constitution especially people. Nobody likes. Yeah So in this next and last clip uh from the 26th Uh, oh, I should say why there's only one more clip Because alex for about a fucking hour of the show plays a hand at you And then for another 40 minutes of the episode he plays an interview he did with erica bowling Oh from the blaze. So he was he was really phoning this one in well, there's a nice parallel to Need to go into the office that day. There's a there's a parallel to the 2013 stuff that we're looking at this very interesting thing Where the past and the present have weird intersections and that is

At the end of this week this uh the 25th and 26th alex seems to be real into The idea of his intersections with other media figures Yeah, so whether it's I talked to max keiser at the trump hotel or I didn't interview with eric bowling or You know trump did this interview with uh, sean hannity and he's saying a lot of similar stuff to me There's the same thing with alex being obsessed for a week Back in the past of he went on pierce morgan's show Yeah, so there's a little bit of a like a naval gazing grind. Yeah that alex is in so there's not a whole lot But on the 26th he says this

And this is like Again in in the same way, uh, we were talking about earlier that this is so overtly awful Uh that it's inexcusable Even the local officials in la and new york city have to admit it's illegal aliens spreading The the measles and pertussis Whooping cough, but it doesn't matter people that have had the vaccines are getting it So they're saying oh get another shot. Well, wait. I got one a year ago. The vaccines are scams. They don't protect you They're trojan horses for other things

But the point is you bring any legals from collapsible countries. They're going to spread the real thing The truth is running water and hygiene had eradicated these things now. We bring in the third world It's back, but then even trump comes out and says We need to all take measles shots. No, we need to stop illegal aliens that are not even being screened I will say in alex in All right Is he literally saying that immigrants bring and carry diseases? Yeah, and that it's so long as we don't have immigrants and we just wash our hands. There will be no diseases. Uh,

I don't know. Uh, but I wanted I wanted to say in fairness to alex, but I mean the opposite. Yeah He is mad at trump about this about trump saying the people should get their shots, right? All right, which at least is internally consistent with his Lies and stupidity. I guess But I want to make this perfectly clear before I get into any information here What alex jones just did in that last clip is a style of propaganda that would have been right at home in the third rite Claiming that immigrants and asylum seekers are spreading disease and causing outbreaks is a time-tested way to dehumanize a population In such a way as to treat them like things with no rights while maintaining the comfortable illusion that you're only killing them

Because if you don't they'll get your community sick. This is something that we've seen in history Uh, uh, never at good times. Yeah Now in terms of information there are no experts who are saying that the current upticks We're seeing in measles and whooping cough are due to immigrants coming in who are spreading the disease Nazis and white nationalists online are spreading memes saying that but any epidemiologist or researcher at the cdc will tell you Very clearly that these outbreaks are the result of people not getting their children vaccinated And I will tell you that they aren't getting their children vaccinated because they believe the bullshit people like alex jones And donald trump have been telling them for years

The substance of what alex is saying here doesn't even deserve discussion It's a soft plea to ethnic cleansing and it's not even the first such plea alex has made in this episode of our show This sort of rhetoric deserves condemnation And to be remembered the next time a white nationalist terrorist commits an act motivated by fears about immigration Rhetoric like this allows those fears to feel feel real and to feel present and it allows the response of murder to feel justified Whether it's packaged as arguments that once muslims make up 10 percent of the population Then they attack or if it comes in the form of Arguments that refugees from central america are causing outbreaks by coming to the country

No matter the particular shape it takes on any given day the message underneath is the same People who are not like you are a threat to you and your rightful future to sit atop an unbalanced ethnic power structure It really bothers me and it bums me out But when we hear like two different Pitches two ethnic cleansing within a two-day span on his show two things that are really reminiscent of Propaganda that gets people killed

um, it's really really hard for me to uh step back and like Maintain my position that this is somehow A coincidence and somehow he's just so stupid. He doesn't realize the sort of things that he's uh saying Like oh, maybe his researchers, uh, they know and he's being fooled I don't I don't know that veneer falls away at a certain point I say yeah, I I'm a I'm a huge fan Of the first amendment just want to say get that out there huge fan

Uh long time lover first time talker. Yeah, uh Can you do that? Can you call for ethnic cleansing on a public radio show? Is that okay? I feel like you can't do that. That might be why he's on the like on the side of the line that he is Is I think that probably you can't I think that I think that probably is on the wrong side of free speech But it's not on the wrong side of free speech necessarily to say these things that are Inspirational to quote-unquote lone wolf uh attackers to say these sorts of things to make people feel like it's a ticking time bomb Until there are enough muslims around that they will hurt you to say that you know Every one of these immigrants that's coming in is a potential carrier of smallpox

Like you know, we're we're concerned about the idea of people not getting vaccinated leading to the reemergence of things Like polio and smallpox, right? But if you take alex's rhetoric every single person who's coming here illegally is a potential For that to come if you if you introduce these ideas to your audience then I mean You know that there's some percentage of them who are going to Rightfully interpret that as you saying that these people Existing is a threat to you. I just don't see I mean, I guess there's there has to be a legal

Yeah, I mean there is a difference between justifying Uh ethnic cleansing and calling for ethnic cleansing I get that But it feels like you can't have one without the other and if we were to get rid of the justifying part We wouldn't have the calling for it part I don't know I don't know I um, I'm not uh, I'm not a

Constitutional lawyer. So I don't know apparently it doesn't really matter anyways. Yeah So then I mean this bums me out and it makes me pretty mad Because like I see a deterioration in the present day and I don't mean like of his mental state or anything like that I see a quickening and a rapidness Uh Downward. Yeah in terms of the how dangerous the things he's saying are Whether it's like when we talked about it I think it was maybe a week or so ago when he was talking about the drag queen bingo or not bingo reading

Yeah, the the drag queen story date time um That when he was talking about that being like they want to take your kids and they want to their vampires and they're only trying to Acclimate your children and so on so they can kidnap them later Yeah, and then an hour later. He has a caller who says I think I should be able to go in and shoot them Right, take one into the parking lot and kill them like that's something he doesn't bat an eyelash and then In subsequent episodes he continues at the rhetoric that he was saying about the drag queen story time

so like when when we have stuff like that you just You recognize Like It's hard to phrase it any other way than just like it doesn't seem like he cares Now he doesn't care that a caller literally said I should be able to kill these people And it's reinforced by the rhetoric that he alex Has said on the show and continues to say I don't I don't I don't know what to do like I don't I really don't I don't know

I mean in terms of our show. I just we get we keep doing what we do but like, uh, I don't I don't I don't I become very uncomfortable with where this is like Legal This shouldn't be legal. This shouldn't be legal. It shouldn't be legal. That's what I was trying to express. Yeah I don't I don't know I don't know where the line is, but I feel we're past it. I I think I think we're good I think we're well. I think we're well and truly passed it I do not uh know how to end this episode at all. Um, I'm not feeling super optimistic

I I I don't I I don't want to succumb to despair But I I think a lot of this stuff looks real bad and part of the reason why I feel a little bit more gloomy than usual Is probably because of the fucking neighbors. Yeah, uh keeping me up all weekend. Yeah, um, but I I think I think that there's uh, there's a possibility for moving forward positively But man every time I'm forced to listen to hours of alex in the present day It just uh, man This show is bad. This show is dangerous Like beneath the surface of the like sort of extensible political talk and like trump is awesome

Kind of stuff these soft pitches to ethnic cleansing being buried in there are really really fucking troubling Um, and I just I just don't know how to I don't know how to not take that as seriously as it deserves to be treated Yeah, and then I also I I just don't know how to respond appropriately to it Like I I've never thought about that. Yeah, I've never thought about being in a position where like I see what if left to its own devices could easily spiral into All right, muslims aren't allowed to breed. Yeah. Um, yeah, I don't know what to say to that other than go fuck yourself Um, I just never I never uh expected that I'd be in a position where Someone would be

Um expressing that sort of thing Um, and maybe I'll be better at it next time. But uh for now Let's end this so I don't ramble more about how I don't know what to say about this We got a website. We do have a website. It's knowledge fight.com. That's right. We're also on twitter at knowledge underscore fight Go to bed jordan. Uh, we are on facebook. We are on facebook iTunes you can find us you could download the show. Yeah, you could go to the website We're on a lot of places. I'm be I'm finding out. We're on a lot of uh, uh, like podcast aggregators and stuff like that Oh, yeah, so there's a lot of people who probably listen to us on apps and stuff like that that I don't even fucking know exist

So some of that is just how podcasting works With like it is 2019. Sure. There's a bunch of places. Yeah, um, but it also I appreciate people There are a couple folks who brought it to our attention that uh, that uh, Lumosity or yeah, I saw that uh, Luminity or whatever the fuck uh, had put our stuff up there. I appreciate the heads up I've sent them an email saying we don't want to be on there. We'll see. We'll see if they care Who uh, but I appreciate people looking out and I also apologize That I have no idea how any of you listen to our show

I know about three things that exist one of them is iTunes. I was super stoked about finding overcast guys. Thank you That's the second one. I know because you brought it up Don't know anything else. But if you listen on other platforms, thank you very much. We appreciate it. I just don't know they exist Leave a review there. Sure. Ah Um, but we'll be back. Uh, next time but until then Max Kaiser offered alex jones $10,000 in bitcoin, but I have no evidence. He's ever killed anybody one guy who has

Uh, technically probably killed somebody is the guy who turned down 50 million dollars And that's alex jones Andy in Kansas. You're on the air. Thanks for holding So alex, I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you