Knowledge Fight - #300: May 21-22, 2019

Episode Date: May 24, 2019

Today, Dan and Jordan stick around the present day of the Alex Jones Show because they are gluttons for punishment. In this installment, the gents find Alex being a real asshole about Somali immigrant...s, speculating about black pyramids, and interviewing a Scottish dog trainer/bigot.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. Hello, Alex. I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you. Hey, everybody. Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. Workable dudes like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Indeed we are, Dan.
Starting point is 00:00:16 Jordan. Dan! Jordan. Do you have a piece of pop culture or something that you re-watch or re-read or re-listen to over and over and over again? Um, I don't know. I mean, are books pop culture? Yeah, yeah. I re-read, yeah. I re-visit the book Steppenwolf a bit.
Starting point is 00:00:31 Do you? In terms of like lower pop culture, maybe. I used to watch Lost about every few years or so. The whole series? Yeah, I'd go back and try and re-watch the entire thing, because I loved Lost. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you still do that?
Starting point is 00:00:44 I don't know. I don't think they're still on Netflix, so that was a problem for me. I'm not, I don't know. I also don't think I'd have the patience for it. Like, I'm so much busier now than I used to be that like re-watching eight seasons of something would be a disaster. That's a lot. Yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:01:02 Now, I don't, I don't think there's a, there, there are many things for me. I think the closest I can come is that I've read Steppenwolf a number of times. Yeah, how many times do you think? Well, I don't know, eight, seven or eight, maybe? Eight? I think that's respectful. Yeah. Yeah, I think I've read some of the Lovecraft stuff I've re-read,
Starting point is 00:01:16 but not like, not in the same way that I hear this from people, like now that Game of Thrones is over, I've heard a lot of people talking about like, I can't wait to get back to my yearly re-watch, where I'll now have the final season. Yearly re-watch? Yeah, that's not good. I've seen people expressing stuff like that,
Starting point is 00:01:34 and I don't have anything that's on that level of repetition. I have... What, Dune? What do you got, Dune? No, I have The Life, The Universe and Everything, and So Long and Thanks for All the Fish by Douglas Adams. Those are the two books that I read over and over and over again. And I have since I was like 14.
Starting point is 00:01:51 I probably did that as well when I was younger. Yeah. I think that was probably a part of my canon growing up, but less so in present day. And now when you re-read something like that, like it takes me an hour to re-read So Long and Thanks for All the Fish, because I've got most of it memorized. Like it's just me scanning through pages,
Starting point is 00:02:07 reminding myself of who I once was. That's crazy. When I was young and beautiful, Dan. Sure. Well, this is a podcast where you know a lot about Douglas Adams. I do. And I know a lot about Alex Jones. We know a lot about individual guys,
Starting point is 00:02:20 and I don't think we know much about either of our irrespective specialties. Maybe. I know a little bit about Douglas Adams, and you know a little bit about Alex Jones. But anyway, this is a podcast where we talk about Alex Jones. Indeed it is. Today, Jordan, you've got an interesting episode to go over.
Starting point is 00:02:35 It goes a lot at different places. A lot of scatter shot. Yeah. Like it's a buckshot against the wall. Shotgun full of rock salt, just going everywhere. All right. But before we get to today's business, we've got to take a little time to say thank you to some people
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Starting point is 00:03:15 All right. All right. Thank you. Next, finally, we got to say thank you to somebody who donated on an elevated level. We appreciate it also very much. Maybe seven years late on this. Thank you. But I guess back then it wouldn't be a thank you.
Starting point is 00:03:28 I don't know what I'm doing here, but thank you so much, Joseph Coney. You are now a Technocrat. I'm a Policy Wonk. Crikey, mate. That's fantastic. Have yourself a brew. How's your 401K doing, bro? All right.
Starting point is 00:03:39 We got to go full tilt buggy on this Watson. All right. Let's just get down to business. We ain't making that money off that heroin. Why are you pimp so good? My neck is freakishly large. I declare info war on you. Thank you so much, Joseph Coney.
Starting point is 00:03:53 Thank you very much, Joseph Coney. If you're out there listening and you're thinking, hey, I'd like to support the show. You know, I like what these guys do. You can do that by going to our website. There's a button on there that says, support the show. We'd appreciate it. It would be nice. So, Jordan, today I should let you know what the situation we all face on the Eos.
Starting point is 00:04:12 Okay. So, we're going down to the Bayou. I have some gumbo. Okay. So, we did for Wednesday, an episode about the present day, the 17th to the 20th. Yes. And it was not a pleasant. It wasn't that it wasn't pleasant.
Starting point is 00:04:28 It was just sort of like a blank. This is the present day, whatever. That's really, you know, a lot of people enjoy listening to our episodes about the present day. I think you're the only person who wishes, like if you were leaving a review on our own show, it would be, I hate the present day episodes. I don't think that our... Stay in the past. I don't think that our show is bad about the present day.
Starting point is 00:04:50 I think listening to his show in the present day is bad. Yes, I agree with you. It's a frustrating experience. Sometimes we're able to transmute it into something hopefully decent. Yes. Yeah. My nickname was Full Metal Alchemist in college. So, we covered the 17th to the 20th and as I was editing it to put it out,
Starting point is 00:05:10 I got some updates from Policy Wonk Keith who was saying that the 21st was a crazy show. And I was thinking like, oh, this is kind of unfair of us. We've accidentally looked at this time when the crops were fallow and nothing was going on on the show. Right. And maybe we just missed it by a day. Because of our timing, we missed the goods. Yeah, yeah. Your tone of voice is betraying.
Starting point is 00:05:37 I don't know. So, I decided to jump in and see what was going on on the 21st. Because I want to be overly fair to Alex and be like, okay, well, maybe the 21st was a show that was worth covering. Sure, sure. So, today we're covering May 21st and 22nd, 2019. Okay. And we will see if that show was as good as Policy Wonk Keith has said it is. And in no way am I putting this on him.
Starting point is 00:06:02 I was going to say, everybody right now is hearing the sound of a fucking geese being built for Keith. I'm not making this in any way Keith's fault. I'm just saying that, you know, when people reach out and they have suggestions, I listen and sometimes it leads to this. So, here's an out of context drop from today's show. If you got allergies, you ought to be happy. Because if you don't, it means your bodies might have given up. You might be getting ready to die. Out to commercial.
Starting point is 00:06:33 Oh boy. Oh boy. It's upsetting. Is that how that works? Is that how science works? If you don't have allergies, your body might have given up and you are about to die. That is the best justification for having allergies being a good thing I've ever heard in my entire life. So, we start out the day here on the 21st with Alex kind of being in a wistful mood.
Starting point is 00:06:59 That's what I would describe his tone and his vibe. And I think that this might be a sign of bad things to come. I was kind of nostalgic for our old studio. We're going to go back and forth different days. So, I decided to come into the studio I've been in for five, six years today. So, it was a bit nostalgic. And I think in the next few days, we'll move back into the regular new studio. That's undoubtedly one of the coolest studios in the country.
Starting point is 00:07:28 But what's really important is the news and information that we cover here, my friends. There's a real depressed tone. Yeah. Yeah. Is he playing the wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald behind him? Legend Loom Zone from the Chippewa on down of my big old great studio in Cleveland. That is, that is, that sounds like a diary entry more than a radio show. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:54 I also think it's preemptive conditioning for his audience. If they start seeing him in scaled back studios, he can have already laid some groundwork of like I was nostalgic and sentimental for this studio that I used to be in. I wasn't broke. Right. We didn't have to downsize. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:12 I think it's probably a face saving measure or maybe he's nostalgic for his old studio and what he used to have. Possible. I don't know. Like that is a legitimate thing for him considering how his life has spiraled into a whatever morass it is right now. Yeah. Nostalgia does seem like something he could be feeling.
Starting point is 00:08:28 Yeah, I would be. Yeah. The salad days. Yeah. Back when I just do whatever and marginal celebrities would come hang out with me. I was Charlie Sheen's friend. Back when all my friends weren't getting milkshakes thrown on them. So speaking of them milkshakes, Alex is insisting.
Starting point is 00:08:48 He has a strong take. Well, it's not a take as much as it is an attempt to really over exaggerate things. He's saying now that everyone is trying to justify throwing acid on Nigel Farage. Sure. And it's justified. It's a slippery slope. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:07 Absolutely. They're throwing milkshakes today, acid tomorrow. That quick. Now, interestingly, Alex consistently mispronounces Nigel Farage's name in this clip, which leads me to believe maybe he's drunk or maybe he just thinks that his name is Farad activist. Attack Nigel Farad. That's right. And now they're advocating acid attacks against Nigel Farad.
Starting point is 00:09:33 Of course, they used to have acid attacks and Islamic favorite. Now they have up to seven a day in London alone and now leftist are openly advocating and being authorized by Twitter to the show, throwing acid on this individual. Just individual. Sure. Long pause. It's individual. Can't remember your best friend in the UK's name.
Starting point is 00:09:58 What are you doing? That's crazy. Farad. I find that to be the nomenclature equivalent of throwing a milkshake at Nigel Farage. Yeah. Very unintentionally insulting. And then also the idea that Twitter has authorized people on what authority on the Posse Compton. Sure.
Starting point is 00:10:19 Insurrection Act says you could throw acid. Oh, by the way, that's not mentioned at all on this episode. Oh, yeah. I don't believe so. I can't remember it coming up. Never would have seen that. It seems to have been dropped as a narrative. But Alex does have some narratives that he gets into.
Starting point is 00:10:31 Some stories. He's got a very important headline that he brings up in this next clip. So first thing that's important to distinguish here is that no one covered up anything in this case. Yeah. Well, there was a note that the shooter, Emmanuel Samson, left on the dashboard of his car, which was filed as evidence and not released until now because the case is currently in trial.
Starting point is 00:11:03 Previously, the police had said that a note existed, but the contents were sealed until trial, which is not super uncommon. The note expressed a desire to get retribution for the Charleston shooting from 2015. So you can quote, Dylan Roof is less than nothing. The blood that 10 of your kind will shed in terms of vengeance. Obviously, what Samson did is detestable and using Roof to justify shooting innocent churchgoers is not acceptable on any level. Discussing this crime, though, is not my primary interest.
Starting point is 00:11:28 I feel like other news outlets can handle that just fine. This is a podcast about Alex Jones. So what is important for us to cover is the disparities in his coverage that we can very easily see. In this case, the contrast is stark. When Alex was covering Dylan Roof's murder of nine congregants of a black church, he joked about how if that guy really wanted to kill black people, Roof should have become an abortion doctor.
Starting point is 00:11:50 And he kept his coverage largely on that this guy is nuts kind of territory with regular insinuations that the black population in South Carolina was going to riot. In the case of the Antioch shooting at this church, it's a pure and simple racist attack on white people, which the media has tried to cover up. Alex does appear to be correct in as much as this Antioch shooting was a racist attack against white people. And if you were a normal media outlet covering the story and brought that detail up, I wouldn't really see a problem with it being discussed.
Starting point is 00:12:18 The problem is that Alex only covers cases where white people are victims as if they are legitimate hate crimes, which is why it's impossible for me not to see that kernel of truth about this attack being an expression of a racist position when it comes out of Alex's mouth. No, what happened was, so here's what was going on. The Patriots, okay, gave this dude a bunch of drugs that he was on a lot of anti-depressants that the Patriots gave him. And then he was mind controlled into pulling off this shooting.
Starting point is 00:12:49 And this was entirely to get white people to get the Patriots to wake up to the threat that non-white people posted. Let me guess. You have deep intelligence sources that conveniently you can't bring up or anything. I'm not going to say his name, but it rhymes with Mac, okay? He told me a lot about this game. So at the beginning, the first clip that we heard here was Alex harkening back to his old studio, getting wistful and sentimental.
Starting point is 00:13:18 That leads me to believe that the money is not good, as Alex has literally said on our last episode. New risk agents. That also makes me feel more sure of that position when I hear him do this incredibly lazy ad read for a new product he's selling. Now is the most important time to support the Info War. My friends, there has never been a more critical time to take a stand in the fight for our Republic, global censorship and attacks are at all time highs.
Starting point is 00:13:47 It's painfully obvious when Alex is reading something. His reading voice is so different and so more dispassionate from his extemporaneous speaking. And so when you hear that, you hear the time, the globalists are attacking, that's part of the ad read. That stuff that is consistently what he says, just shooting from the hip, is written down for him to read and you hear how lackadaisically he's getting through this ad copy. I think that's an important distinction because when he's reading about the product, it's that same dull, bored voice of reading, but the stuff here at the beginning that leads
Starting point is 00:14:26 into the ad. That you would expect to be as bombastuous as prior. Right. And the ad copy contains as part of the ad pitch most of his rhetoric. There is no line of demarcation between content and ad. An effort to shut down independent liberty media ahead of their real takeover that's getting ready to happen, a violent, violent revolution against the family, against Christians. I mean, it's, it's, it's lined up, it's ready.
Starting point is 00:14:52 In honor of Memorial Day, we are launching game changing specials and unveiling a brand new system to hear that breath that almost sigh in honor of Memorial Day and unveiling a brand new system. What do we, what's our system about? I haven't read this copy, so I'm flying blind here we go for the total health and performance that has been in design and research and development for over a year. It's called the eight pack power stack, which combines all the most powerful health supplements for your routine and too easy to use packets.
Starting point is 00:15:36 You laugh, but I think that's a good name. I think we should just rhyme all kinds of things now. Compared to what it could have been. That's not a bad name. So for what I can tell this eight pack power stack is just Alex trying to bundle a ton of his products together to create the appearance of a new product. It appears that way. It sounds like a CBS lineup.
Starting point is 00:16:00 They though, oh, tonight we've got that eight pack power stack, starting with the staff at a pharmacy. Well, that's where they commit the most crimes. So the descriptions of all the elements of this eight pack are just products that he already sells. Yeah. At least they describe products he already sells. Like the quote energy kickstart formula sounds exactly like turbo force.
Starting point is 00:16:23 The quote new tropic brain formula might as well be brain force. That literally is just a bunch of different words that mean brain force basically. Yeah. The quote sound sleep formula sounds like it's knockout and on and on all of the eight factors. And one of them is just krill oil, which we know doesn't give you the burpees didn't even bother with that. Right.
Starting point is 00:16:44 The price of the pack is $119 and 95 cents. But if you buy now, it's only $59.95 more than half off gates. That screams either a hyperinflated base price or we're in real trouble with the money. Get an extra 10% off and enter code knowledge fight at checkout. Yeah. But here's the fucked up thing. When I looked closer, I found that these aren't the same products. Okay.
Starting point is 00:17:10 They sound like the same like the sound sleep formula might as well just be knockout. Right. But they are not the same thing. Okay. That's weird in me out. I went to in fours website and checked the ingredient labels for the new eight pack power stack and none of it matches up with his existing products and what they contain. Some of its kind is similar.
Starting point is 00:17:28 Like for example, you know, any sleep aid is probably just going to have a combination of the same three or four ingredients. Yeah. They aren't the same products. For some of the products I was able to trace to existing things that Alex already sells. It appears that the new versions of them are just slightly worse versions, missing ingredients possibly to cut corners and cut costs. Fun.
Starting point is 00:17:48 I don't know though if that's the case that might it, but it, you know, some of them are just, hey, we took the lemon balm out of knockout and now it's basically the same thing. That works. We got way more L tryptophan in it because it's super cheap. I mean, if you're dealing in homeopathy, really you're, you're selling nothing anyway. So why add or remove ingredients based on cost, you know, it is weird. Yeah. But this is, this is important as is the case with all of Alex's supplements.
Starting point is 00:18:12 He doesn't produce them himself to explain the global healing center run by Dr. Group does produce their own products. Thus, he can put on his labels manufactured by the global healing center on the products he doesn't produce in house by law. He has to put manufactured for the global healing center on his label and every product that Alex sells has manufactured for info wars on the label. They're all subcontracted out because Alex doesn't have the money or the infrastructure to actually produce supplements legally on his own.
Starting point is 00:18:45 Two of the products on his eight pack use the trademarked ingredients from a company called natural remedies private limited, which is a good indication that they were the ones who manufacture his eight stack power pack for him. Also I think it's the eight pack power stack or eight stack power pack. I can't remember. Eight pack. Eight pack. I know it rhymes.
Starting point is 00:19:04 Is there four? Is there four or eight? That's eight. Eight pack power stack. So now what's interesting about natural remedies is that they're not primarily a human supplement company. They're a natural remedy developer and manufacturer out of Bengaluru, India. And from everything I can tell their primary stake in the market is animal supplements.
Starting point is 00:19:22 Right. Branching out through info wars. I like it. From a 2018 article in CEO magazine, quote, natural remedies private limited blending the traditional wisdom of Ayurveda with modern science to address the unmet needs of the animal health industry. I like it. The article describes the beginning of how the company came to be, quote, intrigued by
Starting point is 00:19:43 the alchemy of neem tree and healing wounded animals and Mahabharata. All right. Sri Ramlal Agarwal drew inspiration of what he wanted to contribute to the world. Years later a rough patch came in Sri Ramlal's life when his beloved horse died who could have been helped by the herbs which he was dealing in. This bitter memory and closely observing the plight of farmers and treating animal diseases stimulated him to fill this gap and cure the ailments of the animal health care industry by infusing the knowledge of Ayurveda.
Starting point is 00:20:15 That's how the company came to exist. When was this? It wasn't that long ago. Okay. Because he's like a religious figure as well. I mean like a natural healing. Yeah. In the Indian traditions.
Starting point is 00:20:29 Yeah. Yeah. Okay. There's a slight religious element to it. All right. But it's not strictly religious. Yeah. Now it is.
Starting point is 00:20:37 It's more cultural. In his defense, when you give penicillin to a cow, same penicillin you give to me. Wow. But if you give the penicillin to a cow, you give the human penicillin to a kicker. Very testy. All right. Eight pack power of cillin. Natural remedies is primarily a business that makes products for animal health care
Starting point is 00:20:54 like their product Topicare, which is a topical spray for bovine wound care. A few years back, they did start a human side of the business, but it only accounts for approximately 20% of their market share right now. Their business is largely animal health. It's just Alex Jones and Goop, those are the only two people. There's no real problem with sourcing your products from an Indian veterinary medicine company when they do have a human wing to their business, but it does raise a few questions. Probably because this is Alex Jones in Infowars we're talking about.
Starting point is 00:21:25 We do know that they have a history of treating veterinarians like human doctors and selling their products, as Alex did with Dr. Joel Wallach. Like who? Dr. Wallach. Veterinary medicine Wallach. Brilliant veterinarian Wallach. Another issue is that Alex displays made in America prominently on many of his products, and we know that he has a big thing for American industries.
Starting point is 00:21:44 So it seems strange that he would go all the way to India to get different versions of many of the products he already sells manufactured, particularly from a business primarily in the veterinary health market. It leads one to believe that maybe other manufacturers wouldn't work with him. But that's just my conjecture, I'm not entirely sure what the situation is, but I find this very interesting. Yeah, well, I mean, if he's selling it for $59.95, right, his overhead is probably almost entirely shipping costs just to get it from India.
Starting point is 00:22:17 I would imagine it's like one cent per an eight pack power stack that he's paying. It can't be. It can't be. It must. He must be making a profit on $59.95, which makes you really question how much that's what I'm saying. What the intention is when he's selling it for $119. $39.95 shipping from India to him, one cent for the product, he gets even 20 bucks off
Starting point is 00:22:41 top. Yeah, that could be. That could be. Yeah. I don't know. I have no idea, but I find this very weird. I think the thing that led me down the path of looking into the dynamics here was the fact that so many of the elements of the products are things that he already sells.
Starting point is 00:22:57 It just seems like if you're selling this and it ostensibly helps you with sleep and it gives you a new tropic, why would anyone buy any of your other products if they can get them all in this pack? You're undercutting yourself to an extent. Are you undercutting yourself or are you undercutting a doctor group? Well, he's not working with doctor group anymore anyway. Oh, I thought his other, I thought brain force and the like were still from doctor group. I'm not sure that all of them are, but a lot of his products are.
Starting point is 00:23:26 A lot of them do have analogs that are clearly private labels from the global healing center. I don't know. His business is really weird. I can't understand it. It could just be that supplements are an entirely unregulated and shady ass business that does all kinds of weird shit. Man, that's interesting. Probably should do something about that.
Starting point is 00:23:43 Probably should do something about that. So in this episode, the 21st, Alex is very into being shitty to Somalis. So we're no longer giving it up to the Somali pirates. No, there is an irony there for sure. Well, I'm just saying you got to take it back from Somali pirates. He has some stories about Somalis that he wants, Somali immigrants who he wants to point the finger at. And in order to do that, he spends a long time making fun of the idea that the people
Starting point is 00:24:16 made that Bonnie there. We love that song, which further reinforces why I long ago said that that was a bad idea. Alex is going to use this anytime there's any kind of Somali person in the news as evidence that he was right. And these people are making fun of him because he's dangerously right, which I think is a foolish piece of propaganda ingredient to offer him for no reason. Yeah. I do understand the humor of the song.
Starting point is 00:24:47 Don't get me wrong. I'm not. Right. The thing about it is that he and his ilk could never have the creativity necessary to make something like that that gets caught in your consciousness. So for they like humor. Yeah. Something that is really well done and it's very funny.
Starting point is 00:25:09 He can continually use because it is effective, you know, like he would never have been able to make that. If that wasn't made, he could never. It would never exist. You know what I mean? Yeah, I do. Yeah. I think we've made that point a little bit.
Starting point is 00:25:23 Yeah. And it's just shit. Yeah. And so he has that he plays the music video of it and it's interspersed with pieces of news that he's misrepresenting about Somali's being terrifying and doing all basically trying to create the optics of I'm right. Haha. You guys made fun of me.
Starting point is 00:25:43 But I'm right. Yeah. And now I spit it back in your face. Right. And so this clip he talks about Somali immigrants in Minneapolis and then starts singing. He put that video yesterday where the filmmaker goes through Minneapolis, St. Paul and not one Somali will tell him that he wants to live in America. I want to live in Somalia.
Starting point is 00:26:03 You're like, well, that doesn't make sense. You came here. You want to be here. But see, it's the double thing. It's like Ilhan, the arrogant she bleeds and oozes and the hate and the sliminess and the creepiness of it. I mean, the women don't get to open their mouths in Somalia. They're lower than dog excrement.
Starting point is 00:26:22 But here she could pull up her skirt and just piss all over the Republic, piss all over the American flag, piss in all our faces with those evil beady eyes, that evil smile, because she knows we're going to submit to her because she's better than us and she's going to feed on us. Her boys are going to beat your whiteheads in with hammers and the media's going to love it. Because Somali's a sweet, oh, that's a sweet, oh, that's a sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet. So thank you, Ilhan.
Starting point is 00:26:58 Did nobody call 911 immediately after hearing that in the studio and go, we have a psychotic break occurring right now? I mean, long ago, I would have 5150ed him if I was a lover. Oh, man. Yeah. That's bad. Because there's only two options. It's like you're acting sincerely and I'm worried for your safety or you're doing this
Starting point is 00:27:18 as an act. And I'm worried for your safety. I don't know. What he's talking about, the kids with hammers, we'll get into later. That's a news story that he's covering quite aggressively. But also, I think there at the end, he was kind of forgetting the lyrics to the parody song and the meter. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:37 Oh, it's a sweet. So I refuse to watch whatever YouTube video Alex was talking about there at the beginning of the clip because what he's describing isn't surprising to me at all. He's just pretending it's an evil thing. Like generally, refugees are people who are not leaving their home country because they're looking for a change of scenery. They're fleeing what often represents mortal danger and their only hope of survival is to get out.
Starting point is 00:27:58 There are countless examples of this ranging from the Tutsi in Rwanda in the 90s to the people in Darfur in the 2000s. While it doesn't always have to be genocide, someone's fleeing, there's often an existential threat that drives them to leave their homeland. Without living through something like that, it's very hard to assume what your mental state might be once you reach a country that represents safety. On the one hand, you'd probably be thankful that the threat of the inter-Homway or the Janjaweed is gone, but on the other hand, no matter how safe and good the country you
Starting point is 00:28:26 end up in is. Which ours is not. But even if it were, it would never, it may never feel like your home. For refugees, they're not just leaving a piece of land and arriving at another. They're leaving behind loved ones, regions where they and their families may have had generations of memories and history, and they're having to separate from that place that was their home in a deeply traumatic way, with no opportunity to process the separation. It makes total sense that part of what makes the refugee experience so difficult is a feeling
Starting point is 00:28:54 that may never go away of wanting to go back to a home that may no longer exist. It's not a longing to live in a war-torn country because America sucks so much, it's a longing to go back to a home they loved before the circumstances arose that required fleeing. So when Alex points to Somali refugees in Minneapolis who say that they want to go back to Somalia, I don't feel like that's weird at all, nor is it any sort of denunciation of America or a display of ungratefulness or disrespect. It just really feels like what's being expressed here is more an example of Alex's inability to feel empathy or understanding for other people's situation.
Starting point is 00:29:28 Yeah, I'm really confused as to what he thinks of the downside. So because the Somalis that he hates so much don't want to be in America, that's... Well, I don't even know what they would be expressing as a not wanting to be in America. No, in his mind. I'm trying to figure out what he thinks is the problem. Alright, I'll let you walk me through it because I don't know if I can articulate it myself. So they're evil, like Ileana Omar, because they don't want to be in the country and there is... And they're peeing on us? Why?
Starting point is 00:30:10 I think that what he's trying to represent is that these Somali immigrants, as well as Omar, they long to be back in the bloodthirsty, rapacious violence of Somalia. But they've come over here in order to create it here at the behest of the globalists who seek to create a clash of civilizations in order to bring down the West. I think that's what's behind what he's saying. Okay. That's why they're here, though they wish to be there. That's the version that he's selling, as opposed to the idea of that it was their home country.
Starting point is 00:30:49 There's always going to be a peace that longs for the better days. Right. So he's not thinking like, oh, how can we help them get back? I don't think so. I don't think so, either. No. But I mean, that seems like... It seems like a more reasonable thing to say.
Starting point is 00:31:09 Although, I mean, if the conversation did come to that, he would be thrilled for forced deportations. Let's see, now we could just not do the forced part. Well, anyway, we'll get back to the Somali and stuff here in a minute, because Alex gets way out of line. Oh, boy. But before we do, Alex has to tell a very not true story about David Knight and his wife going to an anti-abortion rally.
Starting point is 00:31:32 David Knight's married? Yeah. And David Knight's wife one time in an abortion demonstration in the Antifa was that. She said, you know, I adopted a child. She was a little white pig. She was, no, actually, she was a Chinese. She was, oh, yeah, virtue signaling. It'd just be better to kill that baby.
Starting point is 00:31:51 Kill babies. Kill babies. We have the moral high ground. Kill baby. So 51-50. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:59 That didn't happen. Wow. Yeah. You know, you know, one of the reasons I know that didn't happen? The demon screaming? Well, there's that. Okay. I mean, that is absurd.
Starting point is 00:32:09 But then the other part is that, like, the only people that I ever really hear talking about virtue signaling are his friends. Yeah. Alex and his friends. Yeah. Those are the only people who make those sorts of accusations, at least that I can see. I'm not saying that people on the left don't necessarily call something virtue signaling, but I would say it's a very small piece of the pie.
Starting point is 00:32:28 Yeah. It's, uh. The people who say virtue signaling are often the people who need you to be signaling as opposed to actually be virtuous in order to kind of feel better about themselves. It appears that could be the case. Yeah. So we get back to the Somali stuff a little bit quicker than you might have thought. It was just a short little trip down a side road to hear a fake story about David Knight
Starting point is 00:32:52 and his wife. So Alex is on the warpath, as it were, against Somali immigrants, and particularly Representative Omar being a ringleader of some. Sure. Sure. Why not? Shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:08 And yeah, he's focused in on Minneapolis because there's a large Somali population in Minneapolis, St. Paul, and there is that story that I referenced about him, the kids of Hammers. Yeah. And he touches on that and then discusses the terrifying state of affairs in Minneapolis in the next, in this next clip. And in Minneapolis, St. Paul, you have the leftist brain damaged population up there where you have attacks at basically racial attacks every day at the mall, little babies
Starting point is 00:33:40 being thrown off balconies, little white babies, little white babies, attack Rob Stabbed and the media tries to cover it up. So that, that story that he's telling about a baby being thrown off a balcony. Yeah. The media did not just not cover that up. I know about that. Yeah. He's lying about the context.
Starting point is 00:33:59 So in April 2019, a five year old boy was thrown off the third floor balcony of the Mall of America. The man responsible was 24, a 24 year old named Emmanuel Aranda. Aranda was born in Chicago, so he's not relevant to Alex's Somali immigrant campaign of demonizing Somalis. Chicago Somalia. So the, and make no mistake about it. That's the context that this, the context that this clip exists in on the show.
Starting point is 00:34:21 That's what, that's what he's in the middle of talking about. Don't you remember our sister city, the Chicago Somalia? Sure. Yeah. So in 20. Chicago. All right. There's a good Portmanteau in there somewhere.
Starting point is 00:34:33 It's somewhere. It's somewhere. I didn't find it. So in 2015, Aranda was convicted twice for assaults that happened at that mall, both instances of him throwing liquids, once water and once tea on women who rejected his advances. These assaults led to him being banned from the mall, which apparently didn't take. He arrived at the mall in April intending to kill an adult, but that quote didn't work out.
Starting point is 00:34:54 He chose to throw the child off a balcony and kind of a whim. When asked about it, the quote defended indicated that he had been coming to the mall for several years and had made efforts to talk to women in the mall, but had been rejected. And his rejection caused him to lash out and be aggressive. Well, obviously it's awful that anyone would throw a child off a balcony. It's kind of clear that this story is not about immigrants. It's not about racist violence. It's about a man who felt entitled to women paying attention to him.
Starting point is 00:35:20 And when he didn't get what he wanted, he responded with violence. Ooh, I don't think that's how Alex wants you to play that story. No, no, I don't think that 2015 assaults are more than enough to establish a pattern here. And his only explanation for his actions confirms that Alex is completely lying about this story. And you can tell what his intentions are clearly. By the way, he says that it was a little white baby being thrown off the balcony. He's willing to use whatever he can to defend his whites or under attack narrative, regardless of how the stories fit or don't fit into that narrative because he's a white nationalist.
Starting point is 00:35:50 Yeah, that's one of the more insidious things that is almost, not almost, but like, has an undercurrent through everything that he claims about any violent act is that it is always an excuse for toxic masculinity if it is not a racial thing. There is a trend. It is always like, oh, no, no, no, if it's not, if it's not racism, then it's false flag. And if it's not false flag, then it's an excuse for toxic masculinity. It's just, you know, all of that stuff.
Starting point is 00:36:25 Yeah. And so at the end, he says the media is covering stuff up. And that's, that's meant to touch on this story. But then it's also harkening back to what he was yelling about earlier with the kids with hammers. So in a development that will surprise no one, most of the coverage I can find about that story about a gang of Somali youth attacking people at a bus station in Minneapolis comes from blogs that seem pretty fucked up in editorial tone. A post in the American thinker accuses the media and police of covering up the attack, but the way it does so kind of tips their hand a little.
Starting point is 00:36:58 Quote, now that the old 97% plus Caucasian city has been made into a multicultural exemplar. All right, now I would, I would stop right there, sir. The local establishment, including the newspapers and broadcasters, is ultra protective of its prized diversity and dowing Somali community. Excuse me, sir, I would like you to rewrite that from start to finish and then go hide in a barrel of water. A post on town hall argues that the media is covering up the attack, but also it seems like it was written by a piece of shit,
Starting point is 00:37:27 evidenced by him including this line in the article. Quote, Representative Ilan Omar, who represents Minneapolis, is probably one of the most ungrateful people we've ever offered refuge. Nope. How about we don't do that? I'm going to, I'm going to need you to go to a barrel, jump into it. And here's a milkshake. Okay. He writes that as if to indicate that he had anything to do with welcoming her to the country
Starting point is 00:37:49 and that it's her responsibility now to behave exactly how he demands her to. Don't you remember? Or else she's expressing ungratefulness. Don't you remember on every white man's birth certificate it's written, if anybody not white is not grateful to you, you get to do whatever you want. The guy who runs Instapundit decried that the media wasn't putting the teens alleged to have committed this crime's nationality in their headlines and said, quote, they were smally teens showing their gratitude to the nation that gave them refuge.
Starting point is 00:38:16 There's a super consistent trend in all this coverage. It seems to be centered around the idea that one, we shouldn't be accepting refugees to begin with. Absolutely. And two, if we do, they should live here as subservient, obedient, quiet things in order to show their appreciation to the white people who let them live here. And that's a really fucked up thing. And it's more fucked up how consistent it is in all of these articles that I've read about this story.
Starting point is 00:38:38 We let them live here, Dan. We let them. Every day I think to myself, thank God that I let Carol live here. Thank God that I let Donnie. I let you live here. I don't live here and you do not let me. As far as I can tell, this story may well be an instance of a group of youths, possibly Somalians, attacking bystanders at a train station.
Starting point is 00:39:00 It's possible, but also these commentators that wrote all these blog posts that I've read, they're just working off assumptions. The police dispatch recording that was released said that they were looking for 10 to 12 Somali teens, but that's just based on what people who called 911 said. That doesn't mean that these kids are actually Somalian, just that the people or persons who called 911 described them that way. These people could be right. It's entirely possible.
Starting point is 00:39:25 Right, right, right. Or it could be one of the many, many times that eyewitnesses misdescribe people. That does happen a lot. Especially if you're in a majority white city with a high Somali refugee population, there's a very good chance that literally anybody brown that you see anywhere you might just assume as Somali. Right, and we're not saying that that is the case? No, of course not.
Starting point is 00:39:47 It's just a possibility. Eyewitnesses are highly unreliable. But it's also possible they're right. We don't know. Could be. And it's irresponsible for these blogs to be demonizing the Somali community and all immigrants apparently who need to be subservient based on non-concrete reporting. So if it's accurate and this was a group of Somali teens threatening people at a bus station
Starting point is 00:40:11 with pipes or as Alex is describing it, hammers, then sure, they should be arrested. I don't know if it serves to justify demonizing the entire Somali or immigrant communities though. But what's important is that these people like Alex and all of these publications I've cited, they don't care about this story. They care only so much as they can use it as a prop to demonize immigrants, attack Ilan Omar, and lament the bygone peaceful days when their cities were 97% white. Yep. That's what's going on here.
Starting point is 00:40:37 The only group that should be demonized in this story is teens because there are roving bands of youths everywhere, Dan. Damn teens. You can't go anywhere. You can't throw a rock without hitting a group of teens. They're underfoot. They're everywhere. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:51 Fucking teens. So in violence. Yeah. Now that I'm 35, I am fucking anti-teen. Nine months ago, very pro-teen. Nope. When I was 12, I was anti-teen and it's remained that ever since. So we jump off these Somali narratives here and Alex has a really interesting thing that he gets
Starting point is 00:41:14 into and that I find that hard to believe. Well, I'm fascinated by it. Okay. Especially because of how it ends up playing out. Okay. But Alex is responding to a story and some right wing blogs that are attacking Bernie Sanders because he held up a chicken wing or a drumstick. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:32 While taking a picture with a man who happens to be African-American who cooked the chicken. Right? It's so stupid. I'm like, wait, they're calling Bernie racist. They are calling Bernie racist. Well, hold on. They are calling Bernie racist. This is why it's interesting.
Starting point is 00:41:51 Okay. These right wing blogs are talking about that as if it's, oh, look at this, racism. Yeah. But Alex's take on it is, come on, guys. What? Yeah. No. He's like, his version of it is, look, I hate Bernie, but you guys can't be doing stuff like this.
Starting point is 00:42:07 No. It's very. He can't do that. It's very weird. No, but he can't do that. I promise you, it's super weird, but how it ends up playing out on this episode, it gets you back to normal. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:42:18 Good, good, good. And even as he's defending Bernie Sanders about this, it does seem that he gets a little racist on his own. Well, of course. So it's still, you'll see. Okay. And I'm not defending Bernie Sanders politics. I was defending him.
Starting point is 00:42:35 He's at a restaurant showing off somebody's Southern food. My mouth's actually starting to water. Just thinking about a drumstick. Also a little bit later, I didn't cut a clip of this, but Alex is like, he talks about the story a little bit more. And then he's like, guys, fucking go get some popcorn. So, so this, this adds to another layer right here. Number one, guns.
Starting point is 00:43:00 Most important thing. Yeah. Number two, we thought was racism. Actually, number two, food. Food Trump's racism. It does a little bit. In the middle of the episode, he sends someone out to go get Popeyes. See, there you go.
Starting point is 00:43:12 That's all you need to know. But here, here's him talking more. This clip is not done. And even the right wing jumped on Sanders. Even the right way conservative. Eight a piece of chicken by a black guy. The left would say they were racist. Mental illness.
Starting point is 00:43:28 That's insane. Here's somebody's restaurant. You eat the food. Fried chicken's great. Everybody eats fried chicken. What the hell are you talking about? But again, this is how they create the mass mental illness to project racism where it isn't there and then defend a real racism when black people are beaten whites in the heads with hammers.
Starting point is 00:43:46 Okay. I don't know if that ended well, but. All right. So that was a, that was a real, uh, that was a real Dan Harmon story circle kind of situation. I feel like you're on good territory where you're saying that everyone loves fried chicken. Yeah. You've met an 80s comedian. Congratulations.
Starting point is 00:44:02 It's the hell the fuck apart. Just don't know. So I promise you that, uh, that is only the introduction, uh, to what will be one of the greatest, uh, set pieces in Alex Jones history. Oh boy. All right. Well, that's not true. But in modern Alex Jones history, this is a pretty great, uh, skit.
Starting point is 00:44:20 Is this, is this, are we bringing rainbow snatch back? No. Okay. Good. But Alex does get that delivery of Popeye's chicken. He gets it. He does eat it on air. He does.
Starting point is 00:44:31 But we'll get to that. So in this next clip. He just does not give a fuck anymore. No, but I think there's a strategy behind it. We'll discuss that one. Okay. But in this next clip, Alex starts talking about the jet stream and he has a little bit of a conspiracy about weather and it's not your normal chem trail stuff.
Starting point is 00:44:50 Who, I could use some Jets pizza right about. Give me some Jets. The reason the establishment wants me off the air is because we have a fighting spirit and we believe we can change things. And we've done that thanks to the audience that's taken action. And so we're really a blueprint or a success story. And what I was going to do really during this little five minute segment was to get into that, but I really make that point saliently and post it
Starting point is 00:45:32 on the website later as a call to action. But due to whatever's happening in the environment, almost everyone I know in Texas when they go outside coughs continually with not just the polymers in the air. But the jet stream dumps in from 35,000 feet to about 5000 feet or less right over Texas. And the last place the jet stream dips in is China. So the real reason that I would advise people actually not to move to Texas, and I'm going to be doing more reports on this in the future. Please do.
Starting point is 00:46:07 Is that it's not just New California, but we are basically the toilet bowl of China. So this is weird. I think he's just talking complete shit because here's the thing, Jordan. The Texas Commission on Environmental Quality keeps daily statistics about air pollution and their records that are easily available online go back to 1998. Obviously, things vary day to day since the sources of air pollution work that way. But if you look at the data, what you see is incredible variability, but absolutely no consistent trend of air getting worse in the last years because of China dumping
Starting point is 00:46:43 things in the jet stream. I know what you're saying, Dan, but he feels right. So the Texas Standard reported in April of this year that, quote, air pollution in some cities is getting worse. It's getting better in others. The article talks to Janice Nolan of the American Lung Association, who puts out the annual State of the Air Report looking at air pollution levels in American cities. 2019, bad.
Starting point is 00:47:03 If there was one thing that Nolan points out as a source of worsening air condition, it's climate change. Boo. Quote, with warmer weather temperatures, the more weather patterns that lead to drought, which leads to wildfires, which creates smoke and fog. So we've seen a lot of places where climate change is definitely affecting air quality in the nation. It's not even real. Houston has been pointed at as a particular hotspot of bad air,
Starting point is 00:47:25 but the reasons for that in recent years were Hurricane Harvey and that fire in the Deer Park Petrochemical Plant, which those two events unleashed insane amounts of fine particle pollution into the air. Yeah, that and Astros fans never shutting up. You know what I'm saying? A lot of noise pollution. Also, the jet stream is not a stationary thing. It's not like it starts in China, picks up some smog, carries it over the Pacific and
Starting point is 00:47:51 just drops it down over Alex's house. I think he sees almost a rainbow, you know, like, like the jet stream dips down at China, picks up whatever it is, and then just goes up and then down in a parabola right onto Austin. I honestly think that he thinks that if he had the right suit, he could just jump in China. And get home through the jet stream. That would be fun. If I could just jump high enough. That'd be fun.
Starting point is 00:48:16 The problem is it only goes one way. You'd still have to fly to China and then you could jump. If he found himself on some recon mission trying to find out what the chai comms are up to and things got too real, all he'd have to do is jump. Just jump. Yeah, I don't know. What he seems to be representing is just a very childish version of how weather patterns and the jet stream works.
Starting point is 00:48:37 There have been some studies that attract Chinese pollution to the west coast, but I'm unaware of any proof that the jet stream dips down in Texas and drops off Chinese pollution there. There are some indications that pollution from the California wildfires definitely reached Texas. But from what I can tell, Alex is stretching a little bit here to explain his allergies, because he's talked quite a bit about his allergies in the past a little bit. And in the past. Like this is, this is like Carrie's Bell's palsy.
Starting point is 00:49:03 This is such like, oh, it's actually there's a interference from space. It's definitely not that I just had the power weapons. The pollen count is high. That is scalar weapons. So we know that Alex has been very wishy-washy about Trump in the past months. Very, very much turning on him and then saying I love him. It's a, it's an abusive relationship for sure. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:25 And I think Alex has landed. I mean, I'm sure within a month he'll say, fuck this guy. Or tomorrow. Yeah. But because Trump has made some indications that he's going to try and force free speech in quotes on social media platforms and all of that. I think Alex has decided we're going to move forward with a pro Trump position. And in order to reinforce that, one of the things that he has to do is he has to try
Starting point is 00:49:50 and chip into the people who have been supporting him. And so in this next clip, he is trying to make the argument that he supports Trump. And the GOP is turning on him as is Fox News. Okay. Trump or not. So wait, wait. Alex is saying that even my man, Steve Ducey doesn't, doesn't protect the Trump anymore. The deuce is loose.
Starting point is 00:51:13 The deuce cannot be loose. He is loose. The deuce hasn't been set loose in years. He is denying the Patriots. He is saying no, sir, to the populist movement. They've lost Piro Janine. Piro clearly isn't even on board because she's back on air. That's trouble.
Starting point is 00:51:29 You got Andrew Napolitano. I don't know if he's still on. I don't even know who he is really. Shepard Smith would probably be fine if they got rid of Trump. Yeah, Shepard Smith would be fine. I don't know, man. This is really stupid. But what I think it is is just trying to find some ways to differentiate himself from
Starting point is 00:51:45 these places that are more profitable than him. Right. In a way to, I don't know, keep his people engaged. Anyway, lest you think that Alex's talk about revelation on our last episode was a fluke, Alex now gets into some religious talk that drifts poorly in interesting ways, I would say. Okay. In this first clip, I don't think he understands the printing tradition of the Bible. Let's say, especially the New Testament.
Starting point is 00:52:15 Just the printing. You'll know what I mean in a second. I can't come up with a better way to say it. No, he's talking about King James, New International, not that kind of thing. You'll see. 00:52:23,620 --> 00:52:24,740 Okay, okay. Nothing is as telltale as what the Bible said.
Starting point is 00:52:29 Not true. In fact, can we look up the verse? I know it's in the Bible a couple of times. In fact, isn't it in red in the New Testament that Christ said, you judge a tree by its fruits? I think from that. Isn't it in red? I think from that. He doesn't understand that Jesus' words are always in red in most editions of the Bible.
Starting point is 00:52:51 Yeah. Yeah. That's a tradition of. Also, does he think that the actual, when it was originally written, they specifically wrote it in red? I think he might, or that this was somehow more important among the things Jesus said, that Jesus said, and it was in red. Well, it was ready, and it was in italics this time. It really feels to me like he thinks that those are two different things.
Starting point is 00:53:11 Being in red and Jesus said it, which is not the case of every edition of the Bible that I have. I mean, not everyone, but I would say a vast majority of them. All of Jesus' words are in red. Really? I've only ever had one Bible where that was true. Oh, really? Yeah. I've had a ton of. Maybe it might be more in the sort of evangelical world, the sort of new versions of the Bible.
Starting point is 00:53:34 That's definitely a pretty strong thing. And I think that's probably where Alex would live more than, let's say, I don't know, a Lutheran church. Yeah. No, the churches that I went to growing up, our Bibles were provided directly from the Borja Popes. Yeah. So it's all right. Yeah. So Alex is getting into this mode where he's reading some scripture,
Starting point is 00:54:00 which I would say is not a good sign for a propagandist. It really does, especially after that earlier clip where he was talking about Fox News rigging debates and all of that stuff. But whenever he was talking about the, this is actually a success story. This whole show, and I put it up and I want to put it up as a call to arms. And you're like, no, you just wrote a eulogy is what you just wrote. Yeah. You're sentimental for your old cheap studio because you're going to have to make peace with Beane in it.
Starting point is 00:54:30 Yeah. Yeah. And it's not good to hear just outright preaching kind of, which is what he's doing. He just reads a long passage of scripture in this next clip. Oh, boy. And then he gets so weird. Okay. This was one of the things that made me like, like when I heard him on the last episode that we did,
Starting point is 00:54:49 when I heard him talking about revelation and apocalyptic literature, I was like, well, that's pretty normal. That's just a normal doomsday interpretation of religions. Sure. But when he said this, I was like, this is interesting, crazy. For of thorns, men do not gather figs, nor of a bramble bush gather they grapes. A good man out of the good treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is good. This is the verses after the verse about, you know a tree by its fruits and he just kept going.
Starting point is 00:55:24 But anyway, hold on. And an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is evil for the abundance of the heart his mouth speaketh. So you ask, why everywhere does the left lust after brainwashing and sexualizing children? That is exactly what I was about to ask. Why do they lust after breaking up the family? Why do they lust after creating crime? Why do they lust after attacking Christians?
Starting point is 00:55:52 Why do they lust after abortion? Why? Because it's the abundance of their heart. It is spiritual. It is an operating system. It is a trance. It is a program called a program. In the modern parlance, call it a spell in the ancient.
Starting point is 00:56:09 What? Put a spell on you. Countries and civilizations go under mass psychosis. And if you have leaders pushing the psychosis, once you get people to go a few degrees past their conscience, and to give up on God's operating system, they degrade to the very lowest common denominator, black pyramids, eating babies.
Starting point is 00:56:35 Builds black pyramids and then starts murdering babies. That's the spirit, the wavelengths, whatever you want to say it is. Every culture, black pyramids, eating babies. Does he say it again? Well, not the eating babies, but every culture, black pyramids, eating babies. So I was so fascinated by that because I'm like, that's weird. So I wanted to get into it and figure out what this black pyramid stuff is about. It just sounds like science fiction, like Stargate or something like that.
Starting point is 00:57:07 Yeah, no idea. I mean, is that the black material from Final Fantasy VII? Could be. So there's literally a site in Egypt called the black pyramid. It was created by Eminem Hot III. I'm sorry, he said Eminem Hot, never mind. I just got into my head with Eminem. Sexy Eminem.
Starting point is 00:57:25 I was, it was trouble. The green Eminem. Yeah, that's what I was doing. This was a fair out. Yeah. But that construction of the black pyramid didn't go all that well, so it was abandoned and he ended up building another pyramid somewhere else. That pyramid was built during the 12th dynasty in Egypt,
Starting point is 00:57:40 which after which point the civilization continued for a very long time. Also, the black pyramid was never fully constructed and it didn't happen at the end or the decline of that civilization. Also, according to scholars, the practice of human sacrifice outside of the possible instances of killing prisoners of war and a ritualized version of capital punishment that ended around the beginning of the second dynasty, far before the time of Eminem Hot III. Movies and ignorance have led people to believe that the practice was far more
Starting point is 00:58:07 prevalent in ancient Egypt than it actually was. It's really easy to convince white people that. People are savages. Yeah. It's really easy. Like it's really easy. You're predisposed somehow. It should really not be as easy as it is.
Starting point is 00:58:21 At the Giza Plateau, there are three pyramids, but there are a bunch of conspiracy theories about a secret black pyramid that was once there and no one wants you to know about. In 1737, Danish explorer Frederick Louis Norden visited Egypt and compiled his experiences in a book called Travels in Egypt and Nubia, published in 1755. Colin, black pyramids, eating babies. Conspiracy theorists have used the pieces of the text to argue that there's a fourth
Starting point is 00:58:48 pyramid that should be in Giza and is not, and that it was made of a black granite material unlike the other three pyramids there. That would be fun if that was true. That would be fun. But it's not. Of course not. It's just a result of a mistranslation. From the original French, Norden described the fourth pyramid as plume noir,
Starting point is 00:59:05 which is to say more black or darker. Other places in the text, he specifies things that are made out of black granite. Like it's not, it's, he's clearly speaking of this as a comparative level of blackness to say darker. Also, scholars believe that he mistook a satellite pyramid of one of the other three main pyramids for being a great pyramid in and of itself. So this black pyramid doesn't even seem like it ever existed to begin with. Of course.
Starting point is 00:59:30 I don't want to put too fine a point on this other than these two examples. I can find no evidence of any black pyramids anywhere in the world, not in Central America, not in South America, not anywhere. But I did run into a few possibilities of where Alex might be coming from. Okay. One of these, I think, might be what he's talking about. All right. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:59:49 It's, it would be hard to say. The other one's a joke. So this is two truths and a lie? No, I mean, there's no guessing game here. Okay. So there's a book that was written by Joseph Bushnell Ames called Curly in the Aztec Gold, published in 1924, which features a Central American black pyramid. The pyramid is a herald that the adventurer is nearing the location of the treasure of the Aztecs.
Starting point is 01:00:12 The problem is this was a work of fiction published in Boys Life, specifically for the Boy Scout demographic. It was part of a series of Boy Scout adventures. And again, it's a work of fiction. So this black pyramid was made up. Is that where City Slickers, the legend of Curly's gold came from? I don't think so. I think it's just a coincidence.
Starting point is 01:00:28 That can't be a coincidence. I think it is. Okay, fine. And here's the joke one. Okay. Not too far back. Chris Brown did start a clothing business. All right.
Starting point is 01:00:37 No, no, no, no, nope. His business is called Black Pyramid. So it's not outside the realm of possibility that Alex has been hired to do some ill-conceived buzz marketing for them. Good boy. But there's no, I don't know what he's talking about. Black Pyramid. Eatin' babies.
Starting point is 01:00:54 Insane. I don't understand what you don't get here. Well, because he's saying that every culture that falls apart, which all of these cultures would be the people he's talking about, especially pyramid-building cultures. You think Aztecs, you think Inca, Egyptians. Right. This is absent for a man.
Starting point is 01:01:10 He's just making this up. No. Well, of course it's absent. That's the proof, Dan. Every civilization that is built a Black Pyramid has eaten all their babies. When you eat all your babies, guess what? Your civilization doesn't go anywhere. Well, you gotta eat pure out.
Starting point is 01:01:24 01:01:24,180 --> 01:01:26,420 The pyramid falls as a new civilization. We know that none of our civilizations have ever reached the Black Pyramid eatin' babies' event horizon. So it's a hypothetical. Yeah. Don't think that Alex should be pitching it this way, then. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:01:39 I think the closest to, if I had to guess, the closest thing to explaining what he's talking about is probably that Giza mistranslation. Yeah, that makes the most sense. Because that's pretty popular in the conspiracy world. It really shouldn't be one reference, one mistranslation, one slight idiom that is missed. And now we have a burgeoning conspiracy theory group.
Starting point is 01:02:03 Yeah, I don't. That's so frustrating. I don't know if it's that huge, but it does seem to imply to me that if that is where Alex is getting the information from, it should give you a sense of how little he looks into anything. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or he's just making this up. He could just be makin' it up.
Starting point is 01:02:17 Now they eat babies. That, of course. He's not makin' that up. No. Well, yeah, he is. But he then starts talking about the priest classes and how they... I love it when he gets into priest classes, because this turns into D&D levels of the priest has a plus one fucking cane of wielding.
Starting point is 01:02:37 So he's trying to justify his declaration that you go a little bit too far, black pyramids eatin' babies. Of course. And this is how he chooses to support his thesis, and it's not good. Finally, they start killing their own children. And then societies collapse. And the final equation, the priest class, kills the young priest and then slits their own throats.
Starting point is 01:02:59 That's the Satanic program. I mean, how many Roman emperors committed suicide? So that's an interesting, weird piece of... He seems to be implying that Roman emperors committed suicide because of what he just described. Right, they were in the priest class. Well, and then they ate their own babies and stuff and then slit their own throats. That's what led up to him saying, why do you think so many Roman emperors committed suicide?
Starting point is 01:03:25 Right. Maximian attempted to assassinate Constantine, but was caught in the act and offered a chance to commit suicide or be killed. And he chose suicide. So that's not really committing suicide in the way that he's suggesting it. Well, I mean, spoiler alert, none of these will be. I know, but I mean, it's not even like committing suicide. Right.
Starting point is 01:03:43 You know, it's like a death sentence, but you get to choose. Yeah. Gordian was on the emperor for 21 days, and after his son was killed in battle, he hung himself with a belt knowing that his time was up. Since their rule was contested as it was. And he was past 60 years old. He was kind of fucked no matter what he did and took himself out again. It was a death sentence, but not really a death sentence,
Starting point is 01:04:04 but his life was in danger without his son to protect him. Valentinian II is said to have killed himself by hanging, but many historians believe that's not true. His top general, Aborghast, was a real dick and behaved in ways that might lead one to think that he felt he was the real power in the empire. He was the one who found Valentinian hanging and many think he killed him or paid someone else to kill him. When he started building that Black Period bid the next day,
Starting point is 01:04:29 everybody was like, oh right, well this could be trouble. Otho killed himself to resolve a war he was undertaking poorly against Vitalius, knowing that his death would end the conflict, and he was certain that his forces were unlikely to win against his enemy. He said, quote, it's far more just to perish one for all than many for one. He then went to bed, woke up the next morning, and stabbed himself in the gut. Historians like Tacitus have noted that what he did is he sacrificed his life to spare the country from civil war, and he was looked upon as a hero after his death.
Starting point is 01:04:59 Quintilius is said to have committed suicide, but historical records are unclear. Some say he was murdered, some say it was suicide, but again, the records aren't very great about him, so it's hard to make a definitive statement about that. Nero committed suicide after he was informed that he'd been tried in absentia and sentenced to death by the empire, who would ultimately hunt him down and bring him back to face justice. Many, at the time, didn't believe that Nero had actually committed suicide,
Starting point is 01:05:23 and that led to rumors going around that he had faked his death and he would eventually return to wage war against them. It's a bit of an open question, but there are some scholars that believe that the prophecies in Revelation are largely about this, the coming return of Nero, who was a well-documented oppressor of Christianity. That is what I always thought that the... It certainly... I thought that was the more prominent interpretation of the book of Revelation.
Starting point is 01:05:46 It is a pretty prominent version, but it's certainly not certain. There's some open debate about what a lot of the things mean, but there are some pretty strong indications that a lot of the idea of the return when it's discussed are in reference to Nero and the idea that he didn't actually commit suicide. Yeah, I just always subscribed to that one. I thought that one was pretty much everybody of note kind of went along with that one. Another very popular part of the interpretation, too,
Starting point is 01:06:14 is that Nero had committed suicide, but the people claiming to be Nero would come back and try and usurp power in his name. And there were three pretenders that came and tried to pretend that they were Nero. Yeah. And it did not work out well for them. They did not go from zero to Nero. No, just like that.
Starting point is 01:06:31 I know what you were trying to do there, but that was not good. That was the eight-pack power stack of Jordan jokes. I'll take it. I'll take it. Because you were trying to do a zero-to-hero thing. I was trying to do the Hercules thing, and it just didn't go as well as I wanted it to. I apologize. So anyway, the point here is that no Roman emperor
Starting point is 01:06:51 was committed suicide in the manner that Alex is describing. Two might have been murdered. Two killed themselves to avoid certain capital punishment. One killed himself knowing that he was a sitting duck without his son around. And the other killed himself to avoid a civil war. Alex is full of shit. None of this justifies his argument that they killed themselves, eating babies, priests class, blah, blah, blah, black pyramids.
Starting point is 01:07:11 This is all just nonsense. Anybody who listens to him, it's pathetic to think that anybody might think that he knows what he's talking about. Yeah, no, that one's crazy. Yeah. That one's absolutely just pulled from thin air. But it's fun, interesting, crazy. You know, like it's kind of bullshit.
Starting point is 01:07:27 I'm realizing that what I kind of resonate with in the present day, what makes it so difficult is a lot of the stuff is really dangerous rhetoric that is going to lead to people getting hurt. Like a lot of the Somali stuff he was talking about. Yeah, yeah. That's fucking awful. Awful. But I do enjoy how wrong he is about stuff,
Starting point is 01:07:46 because it allows us to be educational. All right. I enjoy being able to learn a little bit and explore these things and talk about what the truth is. Right. Like, because I'm sure that you didn't know all of the Roman emperors who have committed suicide. I did not know all the Roman emperors.
Starting point is 01:08:02 No, no, no, of course. There's an educational aspect of the show that I really enjoy. And that's why the past is more fun, because the stakes aren't as awful about knowing that people are going to get hurt because of what he's saying. Yeah. But it still offers the opportunities to learn and teach about stuff. Yeah, that's nice.
Starting point is 01:08:19 But the thing is that when we are in the present day, it becomes more painful, like I said, because of the reality of the context in where in this stuff sits. Yeah, yeah, of course. And the fact that we don't know what's coming tomorrow. Whereas if we look at 2013, we do know what happened the next day. Yeah. And we can deal with it like that, because he says stuff like this,
Starting point is 01:08:42 that, you know, is just is just awful. And they're going to take you with them. They're going to get you unless you realize who they are and what they are and don't virtue signal to them. Don't try to appease them. Don't don't care about them. And they're cowards, too. Sure.
Starting point is 01:09:07 Now, you got to know when to hold them, know when to fold them. But when they confront you, it's good to let them know. You're falling ugly trash. You're failed. Go back to your God. Get behind me, Satan. Because they are gone. Their only vision is your children and destroying the earth's potential.
Starting point is 01:09:25 They believe that they can attain something if they can destroy the planet before we go to launch face. Launch face? They are just an intergalactic demonic transmission spewed out of hell. Try to bring the planet down before the next level. But we will make the jump and nothing's going to stop it. Most people aren't going to make it, but it's not going to matter. So, I mean, like what you have there is just like all of your enemies,
Starting point is 01:09:50 the left, the globalists, the immigrants, the LGBTQ folk, all of them are just demonic projections trying to stop us from going off planet. They don't care about them. Don't even think about the ideas that they have. All they want is your children. Like that's so fucked up. That makes it more difficult to deal with. The opportunities to teach you about the Roman emperors
Starting point is 01:10:18 are impeded by him saying stuff like that. And me realizing like, man, if anyone believes that, like as if anyone believes that the Roman emperors committed suicide because they were all like killing kids, eating babies, yeah. Then that's a historical fiction that they're believing in. Right. But it doesn't inform the present day as much.
Starting point is 01:10:37 Like, you know, they're not going to be able to lash out at the Roman emperors. Right. When he has stuff like this, it's, you know, the target of this is. And it's very hard to hear. What if we all just stop doing everything? Okay. And just really focused on making sure people like Alex, who are saying that what's going on is,
Starting point is 01:10:59 we're all impeding their progress to getting off planet. What if we just really focused on getting them off planet? I feel like we would probably not be able to do that. And we'd probably, it would waste time that we need to focus on other things. I don't know. Maybe getting rid of them all. I think it's an interesting idea. Allow them their space colony or whatever.
Starting point is 01:11:24 Yeah. Maybe they're the only ones who are incompatible. Maybe it's not Islam. Maybe it's not Christianity. Maybe it's just guys like Alex who are incompatible. And they deserve their own white nation. And that nation should be on the fucking moon. I don't think that there's anything intrinsically incompatible about white people.
Starting point is 01:11:42 And I'm not saying that you said that. I'm not saying that at all. Okay. But I think if there. Thank you. I think if there is something that is incompatible, it's people who believe groups of people are incompatible. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:51 Like that mentality, it disqualifies the possibility or disallows the possibility of people living together. Of an inclusive society. Yeah. And so I don't know. By definition. If you wanted to have a white nationalist space colony, I feel like that might come back to bite us in the ass though.
Starting point is 01:12:12 Oh, totally. No, they'd come back with fucking weapons, of course, because they think that we stole it from them, even though we were the ones, they were the ones who wanted to go. They'd come back and they'd be like. They create all kinds of legends about being in exile. They got kicked off and all that shit. Yeah, no, we'd be fucked.
Starting point is 01:12:25 Yeah, I don't think this is a good path to go down. We got to contain them where we can see them. You know? I feel like education is the best possibility. We probably don't have the time for it. Nope. But it's the approach I'm going to stick with, because I don't know if we can get them to Mars.
Starting point is 01:12:40 Okay. All right. So at this point, Alex has a guest come on. And it's a guest who's very oppressed. And he is dealing with some tough times. Polly Shore. We've talked about him in passing in the past on this show. Polly Shore?
Starting point is 01:12:55 No. Okay. It's not the weasel. Okay. Stephen Baldwin. It is. Okay. I knew it.
Starting point is 01:13:00 No, it's not. It's a guy who talked about in passing. And when I heard that he was going to be at the guest on the show, I was like, well, I'm going to fucking punt on this. I do not care at all. But after listening to his interview, I realized there's a bit here that we should get into. And here is a bit of an introduction.
Starting point is 01:13:18 All right. Welcome back. Ladies and gentlemen, thank you so much for joining us on this live Tuesday, May 21, 2019 global transmission. Count Dancula is going to be joining us. He has been put in jail. He's facing more prison time for having his pug do a Hitler salute as a joke. So we had Count Dancula in the house.
Starting point is 01:13:46 Yes, of course. Of course it's Count Dancula. You never suspect Count Dancula. No, no. So Mark Meachin, born Count Dancula, is not going to prison. Thanks. It's a little bit of a joke. Are you giving me, you're going to come at me for zero to Nero,
Starting point is 01:14:02 and then you're coming at that? That's a good joke. I refuse to accept your criticism. Sure, sure. We'll let the audience decide. Sound off. They're going to side with you. You're the star.
Starting point is 01:14:13 I don't, I don't think that's why. I think it's a great piece. Sure. It almost feels like I should read it again. Do it. Mark Meachin. So he's not going to prison. He sends to pay an 800 pound fine for posting the video where he trained his dog to Heil Hitler.
Starting point is 01:14:30 He's refused to pay that fine and has tried unsuccessfully to appeal the verdict, but I see no evidence that's not just him saying it that indicates that he's been to prison, other than possibly like a holding cell while he's being processed, or that he's facing the possibility of jail time. In fact, not only is he not looking at jail time, he's currently running for MP on the UKIP ticket, which is probably a little more high profile of thing than he should be trying to get involved in. So, so you're saying that it was a joke that he got his dog to do the Heil Hitler thing,
Starting point is 01:14:59 and he just so happens to also be in the UKIP party? Well, now he is because they're the people who've rallied to his defense, which we'll talk about in a little bit. Sure. When you're making jokey videos about dogs doing Hitler salutes, people might think you're an asshole and you end up incurring a small fine, but if you run for public office, people are going to start actually researching you, and that's bad for business.
Starting point is 01:15:20 That's what happened recently. The BBC did that and reported on May 1, 2019, that they'd reviewed logs of a Discord server run by Count Dankula, that was a cesspool of racism and anti-Semitism. Meachan himself posted tons of racist memes and threw around the N-word a bunch, but what was more telling was the stuff his members were posting. Were those memes Dank? Is the question Dan?
Starting point is 01:15:41 They're Dankula. Okay. So people were advocating, quote, killing all the Jews. Talk of nuking Muslims went around freely. Support was expressed for the Atomwaffen division, a neo-Nazi group linked to five murders in the US. People posted about how they wished the Sonnenkrieg division, a UK offshoot of the group, would, quote, actually do something.
Starting point is 01:15:59 The BBC notes that a member of the Sonnenkrieg had recently circulated materials advocating the killing of Prince Harry for being a race trader. Meachan's Discord server was shut down, so expect that to become part of his campaign rhetoric moving forward. I got to say that UKIP is really knocking it out of the park in terms of letting shitheads run for office in their name. They got Count Dankula, Sargon of Akkad, and Tommy Robinson all running under their banner.
Starting point is 01:16:24 I daresay that this level of shitheadery may never be topped. You kind of got to feel bad for Count Dankula though. Why? Because he's third build? Yeah. I mean, his racism scandal would be a huge deal if it happened some other year. Yeah. But the environment we live in with the company he keeps, that Discord server shit barely even registers as notable. Yeah. That's who do you want to die on a plane with?
Starting point is 01:16:46 Sargon? Yeah. Maybe? No. I don't know. What do you mean? Oh, you know, if you're there with Count Dankula, they're going to talk about you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. If it's Count Dankula and Tommy Robinson, it's going to be Tommy Robinson, and then also Ran was on that plane. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:17:02 But all of his bigotry and all his nonsense is good enough to make him a hero in Alex's eyes, and so he'll be coming up here in a little bit on the show. Oh boy. But the interview doesn't start immediately. Because Alex devolves into some weird thoughts. Okay. And he starts talking about how what he did Count Dankula did with his dog was satire. And satire.
Starting point is 01:17:24 And how back in the day, they would have loony tunes, cartoons, or Donald Duck. They do satirist things about the Nazis. And then Alex says this, and it means nothing, but I just think it's really funny. Even if Donald Duck wanted to how Hitler, for real, it's his right to do it. Okay. You are looking like you're terrified. I, I, I call 911, can we call 911 right now? That is terrifying.
Starting point is 01:18:02 Even if Donald Duck. That is a broken man. We're Donald Duck. That is a broken man. Yeah. It's in service of him trying to make the argument that even if Count Dankula literally was a Nazi, he should be able, he should be able to howl Hitler and get his dog to do it too. And then Alex starts rambling about how he had a dog that is now past suspicious.
Starting point is 01:18:22 Lot of dead dogs in his life. It's another one too. It's not non. It's another dead dog. Jesus. It looked like it had a Hitler mustache because of the way its hair grew. And he said that he got it to do a Hitler salute. I think he's really just trying to get in on Mark's claim to fame.
Starting point is 01:18:35 Yeah. He's trying to take a stab at also being Hitler dog guy. Yeah. Yeah. It's a little bit sad. I mean, if you got a chance to be Hitler dog guy, you got to give it a shot. Yeah. It's a pretty pathetic display on Alex's part.
Starting point is 01:18:48 But now Alex gets to something that I found to be the second best thing on this episode. Apparently his children are into watching speed running videos of video games on YouTube. Awesome. So am I. We share one thing in common. His children. Yeah. I don't mind some of that.
Starting point is 01:19:07 I think some of it's maybe too long for me to watch even though it's a speed run. Some games are fucking long as they are. So Alex has seen his kids watching these speed running videos. And I'm not sure he understands them. I watched like a nine hour Final Fantasy nine or Final Fantasy eight speed run. And I don't even like that game. That's amazing. That's crazy.
Starting point is 01:19:26 It was amazing. You need a hobby. May I recommend building a ship in a bottle. It was it was while I was at work back when I had a job. Just have it in the background. I would do that too when I was at Groupon. Yeah. So Alex yells about how great astronauts were and how great skill a great skills they had
Starting point is 01:19:43 being able to control the shuttles with joysticks. As sort of I mean sure an analog to what how trivial these speed runners are. This is so weird. So he's comparing speed runners to astronauts. All right. I feel like that's a little unfair on his part. Well I'll let him speak his piece and then you can decide. OK.
Starting point is 01:20:06 There are people with Nintendo joysticks that can do things that robots can't do. They've had competitions with top robots. Robots can't do what humans can do with a joystick. Sure. You have to be so fast on those joysticks that it's I was it was like one one a hundredth of a second and all the perfect moves to perfectly go through a game at the maximum speed you're able to like a ballerina the entire time. Yeah it's cool man.
Starting point is 01:20:35 Imagine if those young men spent their time building a business or having a wife or having children. Point of order. A lot of them are married and a lot of them have made businesses out of speed running video games. I know they make a lot of money. Maybe more than Alex probably. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:50 Anyway hold on. Or in the military or any of that putting that much energy into something. So I'm not criticizing those young men for what they do and how they spend their lives. That's your life. But to watch that level of skill flush down the toilet over a video game is sad. Oh man. Fuck you. Yeah it's pretty sad.
Starting point is 01:21:17 Can you imagine if LeBron James had funneled all of that basketball talent into going to war. We would never have lost a war. Right. We would have LeBron James doing it. I can't stand to see him waste his life playing a child's game. Yeah I mean. Fuck off. Yeah that sort of mentality could be applied pretty capriciously across the board.
Starting point is 01:21:38 But what I would say is I really love how that clip started. You're saying that these people have been in competitions against top robots. Top robots. Top robots. Top robots. Yeah. Not bottom ranked robots. Like they would just start like is it a tournament.
Starting point is 01:21:54 It's deep blue. Yeah. Everyone's against deep blue. 01:21:56,660 --> 01:21:56,900 OK. I got you. Now the thing is. Deep blue have a lot of good hand-eye coordination.
Starting point is 01:22:01 Yeah. OK. When we're talking about these competitions where people are going against robots in quotes, generally that's a tool assisted speed run. Yeah. And what that refers to is people who have programmed the inputs that would be putting into a controller in order to make it the most perfect run possible. Oh that's what he was trying to talk about.
Starting point is 01:22:24 I believe so. Because I heard that and I heard him saying. Like a robot with a joystick in his hand. Like a robot with a joystick in his hand. That's bullshit. I really think that's what he thinks. No. He is talking about tool assisted speed runs and people racing them.
Starting point is 01:22:37 Right. And now one of the reasons that humans are sometimes able to beat these tool assisted speed runs which are hypothetically the most perfect way to go through a game is because sometimes shortcuts are found. Yeah. Glitches. Yeah. Little glitches that are able to be exploited and it takes a long time to program a tool assisted
Starting point is 01:22:55 speed run. So before someone would be able to reprogram the computer run through the game, someone could have discovered a glitch and be able to do it in quicker time. Oh yeah. There are tons of situations where people are talking about frame perfect button input and you're just like. In theory. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:13 In theory. If you could program the tool. If all the glitches are known in a game, a human will not be able to do better than a robot. Right. But because it takes too long to program that you can't do it on the fly. Yeah. You can do faster than robots. Anyway, whatever Alex is talking about is just he watched a video with his kids and
Starting point is 01:23:34 doesn't understand what's going on which is kind of funny and also sad that he doesn't understand like how if he understood how huge a market that is that he could tap into. Oh yeah. I don't think he would speak ill of gamers. No, there are dudes who are making. What was it? There was just a recent report that it was like they're making $30,000 an hour for fucking Twitch and all they have to do is top robots.
Starting point is 01:24:00 Yeah. They have to beat top robots. That's it. Yeah. So Alex says that he's like, Hey man, I'm not talking shit about you gamers in this next clip. He really did say he did talk a lot. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:09 He said that they were wasting all of their lives. So that kind of is talking shit. Yeah. He turns it around a little bit in this next clip. Gamers will always get real mad and go, Don't you tell me what to do? I'm like, Hey, you have your speech. I have mine. I'm not trying to take your girlfriend away from you.
Starting point is 01:24:23 Your cell phone, your video game, your life where you're comfortable, a place you're competent, a false reality built by someone else to control your life to make sure you never amount to anything. That's what the designers and the global has said. All of this was about was a snare for the post human world that is now being set up for you. I got it in the shower. If you don't financially support us, we won't be here.
Starting point is 01:24:51 We've got the new specials that are running new huge specials. Please support us and get great products. I'll tell you who's not going to buy products. Gamers. Exactly. I was going to say as usually our ad pivots are apocalyptic. We're all going to die. And this one's just a direct go fuck yourself and then buy my products.
Starting point is 01:25:10 Well, I mean, it's a little bit apocalyptic in nature because he's saying that like, you look, you guys enjoy your lives, have a good time, but you're trapped in a fucking death system that the globalists created for you. Live your life. Go enjoy that death system. Now I have products. Yeah, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:25 I don't want to buy any of your shit. You made me feel bad. I think what he's hoping is that he will a gamer will hear that be like, I am trapped in a death system. Yeah. I better get the eight pack double stack over the fuck. Replace the Ruby Red Mountain Dew with the eight pack double stack. It's code.
Starting point is 01:25:42 No, the eight pack code pack. No, eight pack. Eight pack code Red Mountain Dew. Everyone wins. So now we get to the Dankula interview. Count Dankula. I'm sorry. I forgot his honorific title.
Starting point is 01:25:54 And like I said earlier, Alex is just desperate to let everyone know that he did a Hitler dog too. When does humanity strike back? I want to talk about that with one of the most banned individuals in the world. Count Dankula, a hilarious comedian, a smart guy. And on top of that, I did Hitler dog with my dog that's now deceased captain too. Because he has a Hitler mustache. It's a joke. Are they going to arrest me?
Starting point is 01:26:17 I hope so. You're begging for someone to pay attention to you in any way. Yeah. I did it too. Anyone want to be mad at me? I had a Hitler dog. Come on. Who's next?
Starting point is 01:26:25 This guy's raised a ton of money for his own free speech grift that he's on. And now he's running for fucking MP on the UKIP ticket. He's gone from nobody to someone who I would have on my show just because he did a Hitler dog thing. I have too. Anybody? No. No one cares, Alex. So in this next clip, Count Dankula is making the argument that the left is violent, obviously.
Starting point is 01:26:53 And his argument is that it went from milkshakes to bricks in a matter of day. And what he fails to recognize is that there are two different groups. The people who threw rocks at Tommy Robinson are not the same people who are milkshaking people. No. It's not like that's a one to one escalation. So that's a problem. And then second, someone did throw a milkshake at Count Dankula. So he might just be a little better about that.
Starting point is 01:27:22 He might be a little unhappy about being covered in milkshake. I think so. Actually, I'm not entirely sure if he's one of them. He got a lot of press because he said that if someone threw a milkshake on him, he would beat the shit out of them. Sure. Great. Good for you.
Starting point is 01:27:33 So grow up. So he's trying to make this argument that it escalated so quickly and then now we're going to get killed. And then he does something that I find entirely disgraceful in terms of justifying his rhetoric. Because, I mean, in a matter of days, it went from milkshakes to bricks and days, in a matter of days. And then you've got people in the media that are cheating on. And I think it's only going to be a matter of time before someone, you know, Nigel Farage, Tommy Robinson, you know, me or Sargon, where we're not going to get
Starting point is 01:28:04 hit with a milkshake. We're going to get hit with a brick. We're going to get hit with a brick. We're going to be seriously assaulted. Someone is going to be injured. Someone's going to get a heartless, could result in a death. And this is the people that trying to, one of the main things that gets brought up is the murder of Joe Cox, which was an absolutely tragic, horrendous thing.
Starting point is 01:28:22 And obviously, measures should be taken to prevent such a thing from ever happening again. So it's hard to hear what he said there because of that Scottish Brogue. But what he was saying is the murder of Joe Cox. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So it's important to point out the Count Dankula just said, quote, obviously, measures should be taken to prevent a thing like the murder of Joe Cox ever happening again.
Starting point is 01:28:44 That's something that I find really fucking interesting. For those of you who don't know, Joe Cox was a labor MP who was murdered, shot and stabbed multiple times back in 2016. Now, if you listen to someone like Tommy Robinson or Alex Jones, you'd probably expect that the murderer must have been some rampaging Muslim with how, you know, they've completely overrun Britain. And heroes like Tommy are the only ones who will stand up to them. That wasn't the case.
Starting point is 01:29:07 52 year old, very much white and Scottish Thomas Alexander Mayer was the culprit. And if you dig into the case a little bit, it's kind of interesting to reflect on exactly what sort of measures might be put in place that could help avoid something like that ever happening again. You see, Mayer was a big fan of one of the UK's big right-wing terrorists, David Copeland. Copeland was a devotee of Franklin Pierce, the author of The Turner Diaries, and he planted three nail bombs back in 1999, specifically targeting a group of black people, Asians and a gay pub, respectively. Copeland was associated with the National Alliance, and so was Thomas Mayer,
Starting point is 01:29:42 as they were both subscribers of their publication, which almost too perfectly is called free speech. If there's one thing that is so clear from history and so forgotten and not talked about enough, it's that the free speech grift has long been a central piece of the neo-Nazi strategy. Seeing what we now see from these right-wing shitheads is painfully predictable. Mayer was also a subscriber to a magazine called SA Patriot, which was about the plight of whites in South Africa. He wasn't only a reader, he also wrote the magazine in 1999, saying, quote, I still have faith that the white race will prevail, both in Britain and South Africa.
Starting point is 01:30:15 I fear that it's going to be a very long and very bloody struggle. You see, Thomas Mayer was a died-in-the-wool white supremacist and ethno-nationalist, and while he hated a people of other races, his primary focus was on collaborators. From his letter, quote, in my opinion, the greatest enemy of the old apartheid system was not the ANC and the black masses, but the white liberals and traitors. Over time, these racially-based feelings of who was a traitor and who was not were shaped by contemporary politics, and his writings reflected who he felt were the traitors in the days just before his attack, the liberals, the left, and the media,
Starting point is 01:30:51 almost like the exact same people that Alex Jones constantly calls traitors. I don't understand. I don't see a parallel. He felt an urgency to act and to carry out his attack because he was convinced that the white race was facing an existential threat, which was coming in the form of refugees and immigrants, almost exactly like the same belief that Tommy Robinson and Alex Jones yell about constantly.
Starting point is 01:31:11 I don't get what you're talking about. Merritt attended rallies run by the English Defense League, but was too much of an introvert to ever actually join up with the group. Incidentally, the EDL was started by Tommy Robinson. I don't understand. In the days leading up to the murder of Joe Cox, Nigel Farage and the UKIP Party were running a campaign specifically designed around presenting the idea that immigrants were an invading horde that were going to destroy the country and leaving the EU was the solution to that problem.
Starting point is 01:31:36 Joe Cox was chosen as Mayor's target because she was strongly anti-Brexit, and Mayor felt that she was a traitor to the white race because of that. All this is to say that the person who killed Joe Cox believed all the same things that the people Count Dankula surrounds himself with do. He was motivated to action in some part by the rhetoric put out by UKIP, the fucking party that Count Dankula is running for office with. All of the rhetoric put out by the guy who's interviewing Count Dankula right now is indistinguishable from the writings of Thomas Mayer.
Starting point is 01:32:07 For this dumb dumb to seriously get on fucking air and in any way try and pretend he gives a shit about Joe Cox's murder is repugnant. If he did, he would take a look in the mirror and realize that the cesspool he swims in and profits from is the same one that Mayor came out of. And here's the thing, I know. You can't blame a person who puts out hateful rhetoric for the actions of the people who believe the exact same things they do, they act on it, and it ends up in a murder, you can't blame them. Count Dankula is just making jokes.
Starting point is 01:32:35 He's a comedian. You're a little snowflake, titty baby, cuck-soy boy who can't handle his brand of really hilarious edgy comedy, that's all. Sure. Or not. High judge of the Queen's Court, Nigel Sweeney, who presided over David Copeland's trial, had this to say about what led Copeland to carry out his terrorist attack, which inspired Thomas Mayer to begin with.
Starting point is 01:32:55 Quote, to start he treated the thought as a joke, but he couldn't get it out of his head. The thought became stronger. He woke up one day and decided he was going to do it. That's how this happened with David Copeland, who has been an inspirational force of right-wing terrorism in the UK. It started out with jokes. Started out with jokes. It's not to say that no one can make jokes,
Starting point is 01:33:18 but it's to say that that's not a good defense. Yeah, I mean, saying it started out as a joke is, I suppose, reductive. I mean, that is how it's being characterized by that judge. Or even by himself, but I don't trust that. There was ill malice in his, in there from the beginning. It wasn't a joke. It's based on what you would define as a joke and what he defined as a joke. And that's the twain of those shall not meet.
Starting point is 01:33:53 Yeah, that's definitely true. I think the most important thing, though, is that they're completely wrong. They're completely wrong. The escalation is never going to be from milkshakes to bricks, because bricks are far less effective than milkshakes. Totally. When fighting against these guys, making them look silly is infinitely more effective than hurting them.
Starting point is 01:34:18 The milkshake will escalate to bricks being thrown at people with milkshakes. Yeah, exactly. That's how it works. Because what is more effective at declawing a guy like Nigel Farage than a headline reading Nigel Farage in bus hiding from milkshakes? Absolutely. That is, what a giant pussy, you know? He gets a brick thrown at him and all of a sudden he's a victim of a martyr.
Starting point is 01:34:40 Yeah, exactly. The people who are throwing milkshakes understand that clearly. Yeah. So here's the thing, Jordan. Fuck Count Dankula and everything he stands for. Agree. This pitiful free speech grift that he's on is bad enough, but to descend to the level he's displaying here on this episode is just fucking pathetic.
Starting point is 01:34:57 You think measures should be taken to make sure that things like the killing of Joe Cox don't happen again? Yeah, we should outlaw far right parties. Well, I'm not saying that necessarily. I'm saying that if you are expressing that measures should be taken to make sure this doesn't happen again, then you need to recognize that the ecosystems that create foster and nurture people like him.
Starting point is 01:35:16 You need to recognize those. You need to recognize the intentionally manipulative media strategies that antagonize and play to the same paranoid racist fears that led him to murder. You need to recognize the political figures that exploit nativist and racist fears in order to make a name for themselves, make money and win elections. Then when you're done with that, recognize that you're immediately and intimately involved with all of that shit
Starting point is 01:35:38 and you're on the wrong side of it. And the only measures that need to be taken are for Count Dankula to pay his goddamn 800 pound fine, shut the fuck up and tell his friends to do the same. That will go a long way towards helping make sure. So if you want to enact those measures, be the change you wish to see in the world, Count Dankula. I mean, well, here's-
Starting point is 01:36:00 You're fucking fine. Here's what you really want to say to him if he wants these measures. No, no, no, I'm not talking about you. You fucking nailed it. I would say pay your fucking fine and sit down. Yeah, yeah, no, you nailed it. I mean, just change the context. Change it to some immigrant being,
Starting point is 01:36:22 whatever boogeyman they want and say, what measures would you take to stop this from happening? Well, I would make sure that he's not able to communicate with other people who share his extremist tendencies and I wouldn't take any kind of- Yeah, how do we stop ISIS? Well, I mean, you know, people- We shouldn't allow them to joke about committing acts of terrorism.
Starting point is 01:36:42 Okay, done. I mean, yeah, absolutely. Yeah, it's fucking stupid. Imagine their measures against what they perceive terrorism to be applied to them and they would go fucking insane. He's even advocating that we apply terrorist measures to fucking white nationalists. Well, I mean, you know-
Starting point is 01:36:59 But he's not. No, of course not. He's paying lip service to like, measures should be taken to make sure MPs on the left aren't killed, but like, you do- No, of course, but if you look into the case and you're like, the only measures that would be actually helpful here
Starting point is 01:37:16 are exactly the things that are counter to your stupid free speech grift. Everything about your existence and what you stand for and the only reason anyone fucking knows who you are are counter to and fighting against the idea of creating those self-same measures that could protect people. So go fuck yourself, you stupid Scottish.
Starting point is 01:37:40 I do kind of like his accent a little bit. Oh, I love a Scottish, bro. Yeah, I kind of enjoy it. That's good. I was going to get mad about it. Their insults are spectacular. Yeah. Spend all of your day on Scottish Twitter
Starting point is 01:37:51 and you will have a wonderful day. Of all the people who come in with accents, I kind of find his novel. Anyway, in this next clip, if you didn't have the context that you knew that he's talking about the left, you might think that some of the things that he accuses the left of kind of perfectly describe Alex.
Starting point is 01:38:12 If you defend yourself against these attacks, you're a fascist, racist, Nazi, et cetera, et cetera. Like, I mean, even one thing I said as well, I posted a tweet where I said, if anyone comes at me with a milkshake, I will put them up and down the street. If someone tries to insult me, I will defend myself and I will set an example to make sure
Starting point is 01:38:30 that nobody attempts to do it again. You're a big man, aren't you? You're such a big man. No, I'm not the one that's going around looking to assault people. I've said that I will defend myself, but people were trying to paint me as the violent one. Well, I'm not the one that's going up trying to assault people.
Starting point is 01:38:46 I said, I defend myself. You're saying you'll assault people. You're the instigators. But they always try and, even though you've just said, I will defend myself. You're such a tough boy. They still try and paint you as the bad guy, even though they're the people instigating it.
Starting point is 01:39:01 They have an absolute complete lack of self-awareness. It's mind-boggling that they can't see themselves for what they really are. I think they're just really, they just really want an excuse to attack these horrible impulses that they have. Oh boy. I think there's something deep and evil breathing within them.
Starting point is 01:39:19 Oh my God. And they just want an excuse to let it out. That's what it looks like to me. You know, they want to pick a group of people to dehumanize to the point where they can carry out these horrible impulses on them, guilt-free, because they've made themselves convinced that, you know, they're the good guys,
Starting point is 01:39:34 and we are the bad guys. And I totally agree with you. So I mean, like, smash cut to Alex demonizing immigrants, Muslims, drag queens, LGBTQ people. Is he actually Banksy? Are we sure he's not Banksy? Is this some sort of performance art scam of like, here's how I'm going to demonstrate even better
Starting point is 01:39:55 than everybody else how awful the right wing is. I'll do it. That would be interesting. I'm going to say no. Probably not. But God, he just gave a perfect explanation for his behavior and where it comes from. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:40:07 But I think that that's because these are easy ways to play the game. Of course. And he's not that good at it. You're going Kaiser Soze on it. And I have to, because I can't believe somebody is this dumb. Otherwise it's boring. This is the dumbest fucking guy.
Starting point is 01:40:23 Right. If there's no master plan behind this, then he's as dumb as somebody we might elect president. And so these, yeah, I agree. So in this next clip, it's important to remember here that he has made a meal out of paying lip service to the idea of Joe Cox's murder. And when you look into the person who committed the murder,
Starting point is 01:40:49 a lot of the things that he believed and a lot of the media spheres that he existed in are exactly the same things that are being openly discussed and joked about on the Discord server run by Count Dankula. And then if that's not bad enough, Alex expresses exactly the fear that led Mayor to murder in this next clip while talking to Count Dankula.
Starting point is 01:41:11 They're bringing in race-based groups and sickening them on indigenous populations. Read white. And meanwhile, they're funding radical real Nazi party to take over Ukraine. NATO is publicly. And George Soros has admitted Nazi collaborator in his... Which Alex said on Joe Rogan when he was asked about it.
Starting point is 01:41:32 Wow, it's open to interpretation. Yeah. As on words. So they're really the ones with the Nazi past and the EU was a brainchild of Adolf Hitler. Sure. So I mean, he's just embodying the exact propaganda, the exact same worldview that was inspirational
Starting point is 01:41:50 to this person acting out and killing an MP. So I mean, any kind of... Any kind of... I don't know if all the left in the UK's attempts to use the memory of Joe Cox are in good taste. I have no idea. I don't live there and I'm not as fully aware of the politics. So I'm not going to say that.
Starting point is 01:42:11 But what I am going to say is that this is a disgrace. This is an absolute disgrace. To pretend you care in any way and exist on this platform is an indication that you don't care or you don't know. Or you're fucking with us. That you don't care even more. Yeah. So Alex also does a lot of singing on this episode.
Starting point is 01:42:30 Oh, good. In this next clip, he comes in from break with Mother. Has our boy left? No, he's still there. He's still there. So Alex is just singing while the Scottish dude is on the line. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 01:42:45 Can you keep them in the dark for life? Little Alex. Can you hide them from the winging world? Girl, you can't Tim Cook. You can't Obama. Father. I'm going to take your daughter out tonight. I'm going to show her my world.
Starting point is 01:43:08 You're not going to stop this. You're not going to stop this. Please, let me go. Not about to bend our knees. I wanted to talk to you. But if you want to bang heads, you're going to get to it. All right. That was cool.
Starting point is 01:43:23 Going back to Count Dankula. You know, the tip of the spear of the enemy is saying a comedian, a successful comedian can't have his pub. Am I really either? So as someone who spent years in the trenches doing open mics and shows every night, often multiple at night, I always get a little suspicious when I hear someone aggressively give themselves the title comedian or successful comedian. And I can find literally no evidence of them doing comedy.
Starting point is 01:43:49 So I tried to find some clips of Count Dankula doing stand up or some sketches. Yeah. If he's a successful comedian, maybe we want to book him on a local show in Chicago. If he's ever. I don't think it would be easy to find his work if he's a successful comedian. Oh yeah. He should just send a clip. I came up empty on my search.
Starting point is 01:44:03 Spotify. Every search result that I could find was just a story about his Nazi dog video that credited him as a comedian. But I find no real evidence of him being a comedian. And then I came across a piece by writer Mick Clority who decided to talk to some of the comedians in the scene in Scotland and see what they thought of Count Dankula. It turns out they didn't think much of him. Here are some quotes from the article quote.
Starting point is 01:44:27 For me personally, the most offensive thing about the whole debacle is that the news media frequently referred to Mark Meachan throughout as a comedian. Meachan is lower tier of vlogger. He is to stand up comedy. What Rebecca Black is to hardworking bands who play their own instruments. Writing material. Wow. Writing material with innuendo irony and real satire is quite frankly not the same thing
Starting point is 01:44:49 as hitting record and letting loose an improvised racial diatribe and Dorito crumbed vape cloud from your stupid mutton chopped face. I told you the Scots have great insults. Yeah. They have amazing insults. Stand up Robert Brown said quote. Anyone can call themselves a comedian. He's not a peer.
Starting point is 01:45:06 YouTube has created an endemic of comedians who assume you're not laughing because you're offended. All right. Now pull it back just a little bit dude. I'm with you but pull it back a little bit. We're getting a little close to Nick Topolo here. Calm it down. Another comedian said quote.
Starting point is 01:45:21 Oh no, no. He was he was he was saying that as a critique on people who think they're everyone's offended. I know. Another comedian said quote. So many comedians feel scared about this and I would ask shouldn't you be scared that your material is just anti-semitic then. There's no comparison for well thought out research satire. This is just some cunt who trained a dog which is not easy.
Starting point is 01:45:41 That's a lot of effort to react to anti-semitic statements and give Nazi salutes. That is a lot of not a lot of effort. Yeah. Perhaps the most scathing part of the article is that the comedians that are interviewed and the writer all agree that he shouldn't be getting prosecuted. That's just too harsh. But they also think he's a racist neo-nazi hack pulling the free speech grift to make money. This is the conclusion that the article comes to quote quote.
Starting point is 01:46:07 What we should really do with Mark Meachan is to leave him to make shitty YouTube videos for American teenagers who like to shout at feminists. I can think of no harsher punishment than that. Let him give Tommy Robinson an interview. Leave him with the realization that his most earnest defenders are the ones wearing jackboots. That last line is great. That's solid because that is like that. That is the realization that he is allowed to not wrestle with because of the position that
Starting point is 01:46:33 he's in on his free speech grift is that like the people who you are surrounded with and the only people who support you, they happen to be Nazis. Yeah. Make of that what you will. You would think that that would have more of an effect on people, but it doesn't seem to. Well, when the hustle is running, the hustle is running. There's so many comedians in Chicago who again, heavy scare quotes around comedians, but you've been to so many open mics
Starting point is 01:47:03 where that guy has been there and you're like, just don't be. This isn't for you. Just go away. And now imagine that guy was a fucking popular YouTube asshole, gross. And running for UKIP. Yeah, no kidding. Yeah. I didn't want to get into the line of whether or not you're allowed to call yourself a comedian until
Starting point is 01:47:24 X, Y, or Z point. I don't want to do that. And I'm glad that that article didn't do that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's like he sucks. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:47:30 Like, ugh. So anyway, go fuck yourself. Count Dankula. But this time, because you call yourself a successful comedian, on behalf of all comedians, yeah, no shit, you the fucking bird. No shit. And I don't even call myself a comedian. I'm absolutely not a successful comedian.
Starting point is 01:47:45 And you fucking work at clubs. I know. So I told you earlier that Alex put his staff on the task of going to get him some Popeyes. Yes. And now where are we on Popeyes? Watch in the middle of this interview. Alex gets the Popeyes. And I should tell you that I know exactly what's going on.
Starting point is 01:48:04 Okay. So he's got this, this Bernie Sanders story where there are people who are accusing Bernie of being racist for eating this chicken. Sure, sure. And whatever. Good faith arguments, all I assume. In the same way he keeps bringing up that he has also done the Nazi dog thing that made Count Dankula famous.
Starting point is 01:48:22 He is eating this chicken on air in a desperate attempt to get someone to call him racist. He is trying to bait some sort of media into covering him as a PR stunt. So lame. But the way he does it is kind of funny. Okay. And I want to bring something else up to you. The right wing, you don't do this, but the right wing tends to jump on band wagons and go, oh, the left says if a white person is photographed eating fried chicken near black people,
Starting point is 01:48:53 it's code word of making fun of black people. That's totally mentally ill. All over the South people eat fried chicken. Doesn't matter what color you are. It's some weird northern projection. But two years ago, Bill Clinton. No, we, we were at a event and was serving the food that was there in the South and had to be chicken.
Starting point is 01:49:12 Black people were eating it. And the media said it was racist and it was wrong. And the right wing jumped on it because this is what people eat probably half the time in many areas of where I live. I eat fried chicken probably once or twice a week. The point is, it's insane. Now I do want fried chicken. It has an image of Hitler in it.
Starting point is 01:49:31 The wing stop. The right wing has jumped on it and said, oh, look, Sanders has really screwed up at a restaurant, at a food event saying this is great fried chicken and holding it up, even though he'd hold up any other food that was finger food. So this is an attempt to create mass psychosis. So I got, there's a bunch of assholes. Popeyes fried chicken right here. And I'm going to tell you, I'm going to hold this sucker up right here.
Starting point is 01:49:57 And I'm going to say this is really, really good. And again, the idea that everything is racist. Everything is bad. They're, they're doing this on purpose in my view. Count Dankula, how bad do you think it's going to get? That was fucking fully work. That was the set. That was the most satisfying crunch I think I've heard.
Starting point is 01:50:22 I'll say you count Dankula. This is not a sponsor. So I mean, that's just a pathetic attempt to get some sort of runoff press coverage of like Alex racistly and no one is going to do that. No one cares. I didn't even know about the Bernie Sanders story because I don't hang out in right wing media. Why would you? Everybody knows that that's weak bullshit.
Starting point is 01:50:43 So now Jordan, do they have Popeyes in Scotland? Jordan, let me tell you something. I need to know that because if you're eating Popeyes at a Scottish person who's never had Popeyes before, that's just rude. That's rude. So now there's a deep irony that Alex Jones is doing this fried chicken racism set piece while he's interviewing a Scottish alleged comedian Count Dankula. You know why?
Starting point is 01:51:02 Because the Scottish invented fried chicken. Did you know that? I did not know that. The Scottish invented fried chicken. I like it. The Scots have invented a lot over the years. The Southern American tradition, not South American, the American South tradition of fried chicken is a synthesis of the spices and seasoning
Starting point is 01:51:19 that trace back to a West African tradition and frying techniques from the Scottish combined during the days of slavery. Studies of migration patterns in the early American history reflect that the Protestant Scott Irish immigrants who arrived early on settled largely in Virginia, North Carolina, Tennessee, and throughout the Deep South, as opposed to the Catholic Irish, who tended to stay in cities along the East Coast. Much of this is theorized to be because the Scott Irish were generally poorer
Starting point is 01:51:45 and were, quote, pushed to the underdeveloped border regions of the country. In many ways, the Scottish built the South, which would eventually try to secede from the country because they couldn't enslave people anymore. And in between those two things, in between those two things, the Scottish building the South and trying to secede over slavery, Scottish techniques and African flavors combined
Starting point is 01:52:05 to create American South style fried chicken. None of this is too damning or anything. It's just funny that Alex has no idea about this since it could add an interesting dynamic to his rambling. He's talking to a fucking Scottish dude. I bet the Scottish dude did not know either. He doesn't bring it up. He doesn't bring it up?
Starting point is 01:52:20 Nope. The pejorative association of black people and fried chicken dates back to those days of slavery when slaves weren't allowed to own pretty much anything, but were allowed to keep chickens to eat. After slavery ended, the association lingered as a way to make fun of and mock and other black people. And Alex should understand that.
Starting point is 01:52:37 It's really pretty simple. It's not a mystery. Yeah. As for the stuff with Bernie, that's just manufactured fake outrage being peddled by the right wing media. No one on the left is calling Bernie a racist for holding up a drumstick while being photographed
Starting point is 01:52:49 with the guy who's cooking said drumstick. And I know that Alex is saying that the right wing is doing that in parroting the left. Yeah. But that's not accurate either. Because when he talks about the other instance of it, it's like Bill Clinton. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:53:05 That was two years ago. And I look back and I can only find right wing media people talking about that as a racist thing. Oh, and weirdly, RT. That was the only places that were covering that as a racism base. Yeah, but RT thinks that RT doesn't like the Clintons. I don't know why.
Starting point is 01:53:22 I don't know why. I don't either. But like those are the only places that I can find that sort of coverage. I did find an article on Bossup. They ran an article about that. What is Bossup? It's the black gossip site.
Starting point is 01:53:32 Oh, OK. They ran an article about Clinton serving fried chicken in Louisiana. I'm sorry, Louisville at a fried chicken restaurant. But their take on it is literally spelled out in the article. Quote, to be honest, we're surprised that we didn't see more faux rage on Twitter over this. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:53:46 So they're making fun of the idea that there would be fake outrage being pedaled about it. Yeah. The only people expressing outrage were blogs like the American Mirror and Truth Revolt or message board threads on Glock Talk. He's pretending that the media covered it and saying it was racist.
Starting point is 01:54:01 Then the right wing jumped on it. That's bullshit. All this has been right wing stuff the whole time. Yeah. Easily. Yeah. Because what this really would amount to with Bernie Sanders is like a curb your enthusiasm sketch
Starting point is 01:54:14 where all of a sudden he's been told that he's a racist the whole time and then he's accidentally getting a photo up where he's holding fried chicken and he's like, no. And then it's boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:54:28 I just, I need to make this point explicitly clear. Alex is pretending that the left does this and now the right is getting into that game. And that is a faulty explanation. It's the right was doing that and now the right is continuing to do that. Well, I think what he's, when he says that, he's referencing all the times that the left has correctly
Starting point is 01:54:51 pointed out that the people on the right are being racist. Right. Like people who started Obama fried chicken restaurants. Exactly. And they were like, that's racist. And he's like, why do they always doing it? And he's like, no, you're not understanding what racism is, sir. Right.
Starting point is 01:55:07 He's, he's taking the wrong examples and then straw manning. Yeah. So Count Dancula in this next clip, he expresses that everyone loves fried chicken and I don't disagree with him. I very much enjoy fried chicken. And Alex, we'll see how he responds. You know, for example, if a Bernie Sanders walked up to a synagogue
Starting point is 01:55:26 and did a Nazi salute in a Jewish man's face, then yes, I would understand if that caused a little bit of outrage. But what you do, you do understand that. Well, well, hold on. Can I take a look? Hold on. You do understand that. So you, you, you, what you're saying that you,
Starting point is 01:55:41 you understand that a Nazi salute would offend, would offend people and you would think that's justified. Well, you think there, you know, there would be a little bit of outrage. That's interesting. But trying to say that basically serving fried chicken at an event that black people were attending, that's, that's a reach. Everybody likes fried chicken.
Starting point is 01:56:00 Right. There's nothing, there's nothing racist about it. Everybody likes fried chicken. Please continue. What a pro. We got a contender for life's very fragile. We got a pro. Pirates continental.
Starting point is 01:56:20 This is a broadcaster here, man. This is, that's what 24 years on air. So good. Those kind of chops. God, now I think he's fucking with everybody. Is it, is it? I think it might be drunk. Why doesn't anybody make any fucking sense?
Starting point is 01:56:33 I don't know. The only thing that makes sense in a world where people are not inarguably this stupid is that they're all fucking with each other back and forth and we're just not able to understand the language. This kind of insanity leads me to think that he might have been, might have been having a few. And then also reinforcing that is we're ending here on the 21st and on the 22nd, he's almost half an hour late starting his show.
Starting point is 01:56:58 Okay. He shows up 20 something minutes into the broadcast. Before that they were just playing special reports and pre-taped stuff. Alex rolls into studio and he is in a fucking mood that seems like how I would feel in a hangover. Our worst fears have been confirmed. The worst analysis of people like G. Evergryphon, the Congressman Larry McDonald,
Starting point is 01:57:26 and Cleon Scousen, and Bernie Woodwater, and Joseph McCarthy. Who else? Turn out to fall short of exactly what we face. The commies. And every time I get ready to go on air, I hate myself and I feel like a complete failure because I cannot summon the oratory skills to properly
Starting point is 01:57:53 convey to you what we're dealing with. Now I know most of you have seen it for yourself and you know, and I bet you have the same feeling I have. That seems like he's waiting for the Alka Seltzer to kick in. Oh yeah. I hate myself when I try to start a show because I'm not good enough to convince you that the commies are coming and Sure.
Starting point is 01:58:15 Yeah. I don't know. It could just be that he was running late, but you know, the fucking making such a big show of that fried chicken. We're not going to top it. It doesn't feel like a sober decision. Yeah. That's fair.
Starting point is 01:58:32 Fuck it. Give me the fried chicken on air. Yeah. But on the other hand, man, it feels like he's packing it in. Yeah. It really does feel like he's winding down like this is that. Anything goes. This is some seniorite of shit.
Starting point is 01:58:44 He's in class and all of a sudden he has Popeyes delivered and everybody's looking at him like he's a hero and the teacher hates him. If things keep going like this in six months, I'm going to be back in my old studio. In six months, I'm going to be serving Popeyes chicken. Yeah. So Alex gets to this next bit of business here on the 22nd and it's interesting to see like we know that he thinks that if they take the guns, civil war. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:59:09 If you, I mean, he doesn't say anything about like housing soldiers, they didn't do a civil war. I guess if more people get kicked off Twitter, civil war. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. He's added a new thing that will cause a civil war to the equation. But I'm going to get into what the end of the electoral college means and why the globalists want to break it. Because if you break it, you break the country and it's over.
Starting point is 01:59:33 At least politically, it will turn into a violent civil war. Everything that leads to a civil fucking war for him. Yeah. Yeah. That's yeah. The breaking the electoral college would really lead to a civil war. Like the idea of the popular vote electing the president, everyone would lose their shit.
Starting point is 01:59:53 There would be a civil war, Dan. Civil war. If people didn't know exactly how many delegates were going to go based upon different caucus votes, people would lose their shit, Dan. Civil war. Civil war. Well, I don't pretend to know what the intentions of the people, you know, the people who can create the electoral college system were.
Starting point is 02:00:16 It's very hard to argue against the conclusion that the real world impact of the electoral college is diminishment of minority votes. This is not a new thought that the globalists are just throwing out now. It was discussed in a paper put out by the Yale Law Review in 1996, and almost certainly had come up previously. This isn't some kind of crybaby thought that's a knee-jerk reaction to the Democrats losing the 2016 election, as Alex wants to pretend that it is. It is to losing the 2000 election.
Starting point is 02:00:42 Well, not losing having it stolen from us. Or the 1876 election, or the 1888 one. I hated that one. There's a movement for the states to opt out of the electoral college system that's going on, and give their electors to the candidate that wins the national popular vote. This is being done by states and governors. So Alex probably shouldn't have a problem with it. States right.
Starting point is 02:01:04 Civil war. Civil war. I don't understand where he draws the line. And here's the thing. When pressed on the issue, defenders of the electoral college sometimes accidentally slip and let you know why they really support it. This was the case with Paul LaPage, former governor of Maine, who said this on a radio show back in February.
Starting point is 02:01:20 What a fucking prick he is. Quote, why don't we just adopt the Constitution of Venezuela and be done with it? Let's have a dictator, because that's what you really are going to, this is going to boil down to. What would happen if they do what they say they're going to do? White people will not have anything to say. It's going to be minorities who would elect. The argument against the electoral college is that it quote, allows a small group of voters to exert a disproportionate power over the election.
Starting point is 02:01:45 And as LaPage makes clear, at least some of the ardent support for maintaining the system, you know, they reply that the, with the argument that the system is important because it allows whites to hold on to undue undemocratic control. So that's a strong argument. It's kind of silly that we still use the electoral college system, quite frankly. And honestly, even sillier that almost anything merits a civil war these days, according to Alex. What merits a civil war already passed at least like 10 years ago. Many times over.
Starting point is 02:02:13 I don't know, I don't pretend to have the fullest understanding of all the nuances of the arguments for and against the electoral college, but the sense that I get is even if you take away some of those nuanced arguments, it's fucking silly. Yeah, it's undemocratic. And while we're at it, we should probably get rid of the Senate too. That would be, that would lead to a civil war. That might lead to a civil war. However, it does make more sense than having a Senate.
Starting point is 02:02:40 Everything would lead to a civil war. That's a civil war. Do you know what we should really do? Get some Popeyes chicken. I'm hungry. That'd lead to a civil war. Yeah, a civil war in the stomach. So this next clip involves Alex, again, trying to get himself 5150 by yelling about Hillary.
Starting point is 02:02:58 But when I talk about Obama and Hillary, Hillary and other people that have guarded her, everybody I know that's guarded her from Blackwater to the army to the CIA, said all good people that Hillary goes into trances and actually we'll just be on a helicopter in a car and just go and we'll just blink out. But she'll also start going and we'll beat the ground and flop around. And she hates dogs. Bring a dog around her to sniff her bombs. She'll go, I hate that scathing animal.
Starting point is 02:03:35 I'll have your ass fired. Don't look at me in the eyes. You will scum. You military scum. This has been written about. And she'll start crying. Again, you think I'm joking, folks. I'm not kidding.
Starting point is 02:03:51 Not kidding. That's not kidding. That's a problem. That's our, so I don't know. I don't care to respond to that other than to be like, it's so funny to think about way in the past, like during the Iraq war, Alex imagining that in 2019 he'd be bragging about talking to Blackwater. It's really, really weird.
Starting point is 02:04:13 Good guys. Good guys all. I'm a big fan of people in Blackwater, the military and the CIA who would talk to Alex. I think they're on the up and I think they are the ones that you want to be reaching out to. So Alex has a narrative that he's running with here on the 22nd, where he is pitching white grievance, which is knock me over with a fucking feather. Well, it's, I mean, it's a grievance that certainly wouldn't apply to him, even if it were true, because it has to do with college.
Starting point is 02:04:43 But here we go. And I've got news overwhelmingly. Is he going to talk about Morehouse? Did you know that there are massive amounts of colleges that are not Black colleges, but there are colleges that have Black only graduation ceremonies? That's the kind of stuff I got in my stack. You could talk all day about that, what that means. So I bet he could, but I don't think he could actually cover the story,
Starting point is 02:05:15 even if he had that whole day. So what a shock. We stumble upon yet another case of right wing manufactured outrage, misleading people about racial issues. What's going on here is that Alex is piggybacking on reports out of the Washington examiner, which were heavily promoted by Charlie Kirk and Turning Point USA. The story here is about how a lot of Black, there are a lot of Black graduation ceremonies at school, 75 of them, according to this alleged investigation.
Starting point is 02:05:40 But really the invent that inspired all this coverage is that Harvard had an alleged Blacks only graduation ceremony, thus highlighting what propagandists who seem deeply in league with white nationalists are deciding to call neosegregation. Of course, they're lying about this Harvard ceremony. Charlie Kirk called it a, quote, Black only graduation ceremony, and the coverage of the event has explicitly been about how there were no whites allowed. This isn't true. The event was organized by the Harvard Black Students Association and was just about
Starting point is 02:06:11 celebrating the achievements of Black graduating students. But literally everyone was welcome. An important distinction is that, quote, no degrees were conferred during the ceremony because it wasn't an actual graduation ceremony. It was a celebration being held by a student organization. The water needs to be muddied and lies need to be created, like what's being put forth by Alex and Turning Point, because what they really want to do is eliminate all groups,
Starting point is 02:06:35 like Black student organizations or LGBTQ student unions. But they can't really make that argument and maintain their, we're just pro-free speech and equal rights, those grifts. Those two things have a very difficult time being in stasis with each other. Thus, they misrepresent events like this in such a way as to make the point that they want to make while hiding behind manufactured outrage that this is a segregated graduation ceremony where no whites are allowed. A simple Google search can bring up ample evidence of white people at the event,
Starting point is 02:07:04 celebrating along with their fellow students. Now, as you immediately responded during the clip, I have very strong suspicion that what's really beneath the surface is that this is a way of responding to the story of billionaire Robert Smith, who announced when giving this year's commencement speech at Morehouse University that he was going to pay off the graduating class's student loan debt. A gift estimated at $40 million. Morehouse College is a historically Black college
Starting point is 02:07:32 and the alma mater of Martin Luther King Jr. Important to point out that the student body of Morehouse is overwhelmingly Black or African American, but not entirely. White people are more than welcome to apply and there are white students at the school. This is probably something that racists are not thrilled about, the idea of this very benevolent gesture. No, it's segregated and it's because Black people only love Black people and they should be more grateful that they get to live here at all.
Starting point is 02:08:00 Oh boy. But they're not thrilled that this high-profile, sincerely philanthropic gesture is being made by a Black billionaire in support of a graduating class at an overwhelmingly Black school. So it's kind of predictable that on the heels of that story, what would ensue is some kind of a propaganda narrative demonizing Black people in college settings. So I don't, like I just see this as being the return volley in some sort of a propaganda tennis. And it's just sad. It's very sad to me because, well, first of all, it's just bullshit. Man, it's 60 years ago, white people were fucking killing people,
Starting point is 02:08:38 so they wouldn't have to go to school with Black people. And now 60 years later, the same white people who would have killed to not go to school with a Black person are now like, why won't Black people let us be there even though we don't want to be, fuck you. So one of the things that Alex is very insistent about, and something I was, if I had a little bit more time, I might have made a super cut of to make my point, is that he insists he's all about not offensive violence. He's all about defense. Just like, not offense, not offense, not offense, no offense, no offense. I was in, look, all I said was if you threw a milkshake at me, I would run you up and down
Starting point is 02:09:18 the floor. No big deal. It's not, I'm not instigating. Right. I mean, that is, that is a good example. And Dankula certainly is of that mentality. But Alex is consistently not offense, defense. Now granted, I'm going to say I should politically murder this person. Well, yeah. But not into offense. Here's what he had to say at the end of the show. Oh, they're committing all these crimes. And it's just insane to watch this happen. We go on the offense, or they destroy the country. The globalists know that we're on our last legs and they get rid of Trump. So I'm sure that if pushed on it, he would probably like, I'm talking about political offense, but I don't trust his audience to be able to discern the nuance
Starting point is 02:10:01 between them that like, but he's saying if we don't go on the offense, we lose the country. Like it exists that sort of language exists in the context in the body of the show. It exists in the context of offense versus defensive violence. I am not saying that that clip is explicitly encouraging violence, but that is an easy interpretation to make of it. I think that is someone in the space that Alex exists in has a responsibility to not be that unclear. Yeah, that's irresponsible. So speaking of irresponsible, towards the end of this episode, Alex has Millie Weaver come into studio and they do a disgraceful bit of business about her going to an abortion rally. And everyone they are being like, we
Starting point is 02:10:50 should kill babies up to three years old. And they won't answer any questions. And it's like, well, that's because you play the video and it's like, you're asking them fucking questions that imply an answer. You know, like you're saying like, why do you want to kill babies? It's like, well, I'm not going to. Because they're delicious. Oh, wait, no, what? Oh, damn, you caught me. I'm going to answer that question to fuck with you. Yeah. Or I'm not going to answer that question because you're dishonestly setting up the right. We're not here to support killing babies. That's the way you're framing the question. If I no matter how I answer, you're playing a game. And so that's that's what's going on with that. But that's most of her appearance.
Starting point is 02:11:29 And I don't give a shit. They're not even talking about those bills. They're not. They're covering abortion in the exact same way they always have. Yeah. This these bills are almost like a non issue to them. Well, yeah, but that's just the logical a conclusion, like that bills are a non issue. Well, no, what it is is it's like, lay low. Yeah, low. We don't want to fuck anything up. Exactly. The whole because he knows that like what the goal of these things are are to be challenged. Yeah. And then they'll go to the courts. Right. And he knows that that process works with or without any propaganda agitating. He can only screw things up. Right. That's kind of the feeling that I get in as much as he barely seems to be talking about those things at all,
Starting point is 02:12:07 which seems like they would be the biggest deal in the world for someone like him who makes part of his brand his central piece of his brand being pro life positions. Yeah, but the idea of actually following through with it is terrible for Alex. Well, because he doesn't want to live in a pro life country. I don't buy any stretch. Well, he doesn't he doesn't want the question to be settled. At least he wouldn't have had he wouldn't have wanted to when he was younger. Now that he's older, he might be fine with applying those standards on people who he doesn't have to feel what they're going through. I guess I still I kind of suspect that he's you know, he's still a libertine. You know, I don't know. I would say that he he himself has got an abortion hotline
Starting point is 02:12:56 that's the red phone that's available. He lifts up the fucking statues head and passes the button gets sent. The only reason I'm going to allow you to suggest that is because of his own words. And I'm not going to say it's a negative thing, even if he did have no no, that's what I'm saying. I'm fine with it. And he knows that he's he would rather he read rather live in a pro choice world. I think probably it's it's an interesting question. I don't know. But I don't care. I don't care about him and Millie's coverage because it's all duplicitous and manipulative. Yeah. But there's one point though, where they're talking about how loyal Trump is and how important Alex is in the Trump world or whatever, which is not at all. Now, it's with the reason that this is interesting is because
Starting point is 02:13:39 like not too far back, Alex was turning on Trump. It was only within like a month or two in the past that he's like, Trump made me turn on Trump. This guy's a fucking asshole. But because Trump is signaling that he's going to enact rules that might help Alex get back on social media and bring his business back up to a functioning position. Alex is fully on board with Trump. This is pretty hilarious to me because on the other end of this clip, I'll explain what I think is going on. What Trump essentially did was he showed he's not willing to sell out to any establishment, whether it be the Democrats or some of the old rhino neocons, he's loyal to the grassroots because he knows the grassroots are the blue color Americans, the people who
Starting point is 02:14:23 like a stupid plan. They thought they could attack me in the name of Trump and that would get me to drop Trump or they could attack Trump in my name. He would drop me and that's not how this works. And they cannot believe that they can't. And I even told Trump, I said, you know, last time I talked to him, I said, listen, for whatever reason, you're smarter than I am anyways. And you know, in your age, I said, if you need to throw me under the bus, I've said some things out of context, they're going do it. And I'm not going to attack you for that. As long as you stay true to the agenda of Americana and freedom and pro-life and God and country and the military and in our free and our borders, I'm going to support you. And Trump said, very interesting,
Starting point is 02:14:59 I'll keep that in mind. That's not going to be needed. And I said, well, then fine, don't call me anymore. I don't need you to pat me on the head. You know, if you need people to get in contact with me, do it. And now I, you know, I'm not going to get into it, obviously, but you know, I mean, that's not anything fancy or big. We're creating the trends here. U.S. intelligence, this loyal to country listens to me. I listen to them too, but it's mainly 90% the other way. And so now they can't stand it. I write reports, it's given to U.S. intelligence, goes right to the president. And I've got law firms doing it. And that's how it works. And they can't stand it. They can take me off air. My reports don't go right to the president.
Starting point is 02:15:30 And they cannot stand it, Millie. They cannot stand it. So he's presenting it as I write reports, they go straight to the president because things are looking like Trump's actions are more in line with what Alex is wanting him to do. Whereas if those things weren't happening, Alex would be, he wouldn't be saying stuff like this. Because it's not true. Of course not. But here's what's going on. Trump is back in election mode. He's campaigning. So these ideas of pandering to these people who've been kicked off social media, they were the ones who agitated very importantly in the 2016 election, who helped create support for him and allowed the campaign to go. Well, he is pandering in such a way because he's campaigning.
Starting point is 02:16:17 The entire time since the election till pretty recently, there hasn't been, I mean, outside of just things that a monster would do anyway, like pardoning Joe Arpaio. That sort of stuff happened. But in terms of overtures that are things that Alex would be super into, it hasn't happened. Like there have been things like he bombed Syria and Alex said, Trump shoves ISIS up his dirty asshole. There's just constant disappointment and Trump not doing what Alex wants him to do. And Alex trying to rationalize staying on board or leaving. Should I stay? Should I go? This is campaign shit. Alex is falling for campaign shit. Of course he is. Because he gets to feel important again. Yeah, he gets the little fucking scraps that Trump is throwing his way in
Starting point is 02:17:01 order to be like, Hey, I need you to be my, you know, don't get off the team. We're going to need you as this campaign ramps up here. I'm going to pretend I'm going to enact free speech rules that'll get you back on fucking social media. Oh, thank daddy. Thank you, daddy. Yeah, yeah, you're the best. Oh, I love that you read all my reports. I wonder how he felt about that report he wrote about ISIS being up his dirty asshole. That review was that report was scathing. That one was scathing. I think it's so obvious that he is such a bootlicker on this because even in his own telling of the story, he gets it like Trump even in his telling of the story goes like, okay, that sounds good. I'll keep that in mind, which is, which is the classic brush off for it.
Starting point is 02:17:47 Let's end this conversation. Well, Alex has done that a million times to people. Yeah. And I'm sure that there's some reality to that. Like I'm because he's talked about that before. Like that's a part of the story that's been there. Right. So now daddy's given him attention again. And he's way more excited. He's embellished to the story. Exactly. My reports go straight to the president through law firms and no one can stand it. It's just like, come on, man. Like when you talk about people who are obsessed with Hillary and like none of them act like this. Yeah. Like no one. This is sad. Yeah. I mean, say what you want about Keith Olberman. He's pretty a mess, but he doesn't act like this. No, that's true. I mean, they're both embarrassing in different ways,
Starting point is 02:18:30 but so we have one last clip and it's just Alex talking about how much better he is than the people who attack him. Of course. This is war. You want it. You got it. They keep suing me. They keep threatening me. They keep lying about me. They keep attacking me. I want them to get through their head. I love it. I'm coming for you. I'm going to get you. I'm better than you. I don't worship Satan. I worship God. I love life. So get ready. You are going to be run over by me politically. And if that means that I splatter up against the wall with you, that's fine. You're going to get it. My hands are around your neck. So that's all right. Well, hey, okay. Cool. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That was the last thing
Starting point is 02:19:16 that you heard from him today or that day. Might have been a little more with Millie afterwards, but I don't really care. I would say that, you know, as someone who follows Alex pretty closely, he does not love it. No. The idea of like keeps suing me. I love it. You do not love this. Alex, you are miserable. Alex Jones macho political donkey wrestler. So you come to this episode end of this episode. And I think, I mean, I would say that in terms of the recommendation that we cover it, I think that there is, you know, there was some stuff that was we got the Popeyes, man. I think that there was more fun in here than the last stretch of present day stuff. So as long as we're covering the present, I do think we would have missed
Starting point is 02:20:00 some good stuff had we have not talked about this. And I got to, you know, hear Count Dankula say some fucking horrible things. And now he goes from like, being someone who I'm aware of, but I don't really give a shit about to being like, no, you suck. You have virulent, virulent hatred. Yeah. So virulent hatred. At least we were able to sort of transition that now I have a new person who I hate. That's good. I would I would even upgrade him to some of the harder ice creams, maybe some rum raisin or a concrete. Yeah. Yeah. Concrete. Not concrete. The, the, the frozen custard. Yes. With the St. Louis style frozen custard. I love a concrete. We got to go get fried chicken and concrete right now. That sounds
Starting point is 02:20:43 good to me. So we'll be back next week with another episode and we'll see what it covers. Who knows. Indeed. Until then, Dan, do we have a website? We do. It's knowledgefight.com. What if we were on Twitter? What would we are? And we don't need the president to get us back on it. And it's knowledge underscore fight. Go to bed, Jordan. We're also on Facebook. We are on Facebook. You can find us on the iTunes. Yep. You could download it. You could subscribe to it. You could leave a review. All those things. All those things. Yep. But until next time, when we will be back. That guy who made chicken for Bernie Sanders. Definitely didn't kill a guy. Not that I know
Starting point is 02:21:26 of. We do not know that he has. That's true. But one guy who technically probably has killed somebody is Alex Jones. Andy and Kansas. You're on the air. Thanks for holding. So Alex, I'm a first-name caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you.

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