Knowledge Fight - #308: February 6-8, 2013

Episode Date: June 12, 2019

Today, Dan and Jordan continue their exploration of Alex Jones' behavior in the weeks after Sandy Hook, to better understand what happened. In this installment, not much is learned on that front, but the gents finally find shooting that Alex thinks is real, and learn that Alex may think that insects are a conspiracy.

Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. Hello, Alex. I'm a first-time color. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you. Hey, everybody. Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan. Oh, Jordan. We're a couple dudes. Like sit around, drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Indeed we are, Dan. Jordan. Dan? Jordan. Have you ever painted with like watercolors or acrylics? Have you ever used an easel? Yeah, man. I was in kindergarten once.

Yeah, probably when I was like in art classes. Because you know, you have to take art in high school. You got those electives, but I've never had any artistic ability. I have that. I can't draw for shit. Yeah, I can't. I have no coordination with like, I don't know if I could draw a circle for you in right now. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, I've now I could barely do that cool ass that everyone drew on their folders. To be honest, I'm in the same boat and I've never been able to do that.

I've always felt very self-conscious about my inability to, yeah, even do that kind of rudimentary thing. I think I never really tried to, because my brother was always really good at cartooning when he was younger. Yeah. And so it just sort of felt like he had the artistic ability. Right. And then I had glasses and was a dork. That's sort of the trade-off. He owned that space, so you had to find your own kind of thing. You couldn't just jump into his area. Yeah, absolutely. So I decided to become a jock.

That worked out pretty well. No, so your question, the answer is yes, technically, probably, but never by choice. Yeah. Art is a prison for you, I guess, is what you're trying to say. Yeah, perhaps. So I don't know anything about aesthetics or creative, visual creativity, but I do know a lot about Alex Jones. And I don't know about either, actually. And this is a podcast where I tell you about Alex Jones. Can't wait. When are we going to start?

Let's do it. Oh, actually, first, before we do, probably thanks to people who are supporting the show. Oh, yeah, that's a smart idea. Yeah, this is very nice and we appreciate it so much. So first, I'd like to say thank you to Nicholas. You are now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you, Nicholas. Thank you, Nicholas. Next, Sean. Thank you so much. You are now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Next, Sean.

Next, Brigitte. That might not be, might be Bridget. Yeah, but you're going to go in. So maybe it's Bridget. Brigitte. Brigitte? Are we talking with Sonya? No, I'm pretty sure it's not. But if it is, and if it's not, either way, we appreciate it very much and apologize for our ambivalent pronunciation. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you, Brigitte.

Thank you, Bridget. Next, Exploder Button. Thank you so much. You are now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Much less confusion. Yeah, that one's very easily pronounced. Yeah, and then finally, I'd like to say thank you to somebody who donated on an elevated level. We appreciate that very much. So, Cooper, thank you so much. You are now a technocrat. I'm a policy wonk. Crikey, mate.

That's fantastic. Have yourself a brew. How's your 401k doing, bro? We got to go full tilt buggy on this Watson. All right, let's just get down to business. We ain't making that money off that heroin. Why are you pimp so good? My neck is freakishly large. I declare info war on you.

Thank you so much, Cooper. Thank you very much, Cooper. If you're out there listening and you're thinking, hey, I like this show. I'd like to support these guys do. You can do that by going to our website, knowledgefight.com. There's buttons that support the show. We would appreciate it. Absolutely. So, Jordan, I am back in the past still.

I was so unsatisfied by the last 2013 episode that I listened to and how, like, sort of vapid they were. Yeah. Then I was like, there has to be more. There has to be something else. So, I stuck around because I felt like every time Alex has those hard lulls, like just real dead pastures of nothing growing in them. Death Valley.

Generally, that means something's going to happen. I usually feel like he recognizes, I'm not bringing it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He'll give you something. I'll tell you, he did give me something. I'm not sure what it was, but he gave me something. Today, we're going over February 6th through 8th, 2013. But before we get into that, I'd like to just give everybody a rundown

of things I'm aware of in the present day of Alex Jones. I was going to say, I can't even help being, people really went out of their way to make sure I knew that Rainbow Snatch was back in play. Absolutely. Yeah. Rambo Snatch, Millie Weaver is going out trolling people real hard. Doing it, doing her job. Real exciting.

Whatever she does. That actually, whenever people started posting that, that made me want to cover the present so much less because it's like, what are you doing? Yeah. What is the goal here? Yeah. Her and Caitlin Bennett are both going out to pride events and trying to trick people into signing petitions where Trump supporters go to concentration camps.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You guys are just ripping off Mark Dice's stupid man on the street bit, proves nothing. Absolutely. It's just distractionary. It's very, it's lame and desperate for attention on their part. I just, it makes me, I'm not interested. It makes me feel like I don't want to be involved. You guys do what you're doing.

Have fun. Absolutely. I don't even care. I agree. It feels beneath me to comment on what you're doing. It scares me because the comedy is so bad or the intent of comedy is true there, but it's not even you think you would, you would assume. Yeah, hard to say.

You would assume, but it would, it would be so bad that I would slip from like mocking it into just outright being mean to it because I take it as almost offensive towards comedy in general. Sure. I don't want to be mean to Millie Weaver. What is she doing? You know, I mean, maybe he could be mean to her a little bit. Yeah.

She deserves a little higher. She could use a little. Yeah. So I'm aware of all of that. Also aware of Alex losing that lawsuit about Pepe the Frog. 15 K is not enough, but whatever. No, it is not. No, it is not.

But it's probably about right in terms of like what the licensing would have been for it. And like, again, I admire it when people sue Alex and they're not punitive about it. Right. Like I do appreciate the idea that people are keeping the turf a little bit pure. Yeah. Like coming after him and not just trying to abusively take a ton of money from him. Right. And from what I understand, Matt Fury was saying that he's going to donate the money

to charity and it's not even about getting this money from Alex. It's a more principle of the thing. Yeah, good for him. And so, yeah, that's great. And Alex is his attorney, your best friend, Barnes. He's come out and declared victory even though they had to pay $50. Good work, Barnes. Yeah.

He is a spin artist. So there's, there's, oh, and also just before we started recording, I got to update that Roger Stone is back on the show. What? No, he can't even. What? No. Apparently, maybe there's some things that aren't covered by his gag order that he can

comment on. I don't know. So we'll, we'll talk more about that. They're doing a Mark Richards episode, I think. Could be, it could be great. Oh man, Roger Stone has made contact with Raptors. Yep, yep. So we'll talk a little bit more about that, probably on Friday's show.

Probably do a present day one with a little week wrap up as best we can on Friday. We'll get to the Raptor Stone business. Yeah, but I just couldn't muster it and I wanted to stick around and see if Alex fed me something really fucked up after that terribly dull stretch. You had a bad taste in your mouth. So we get here and we're going to start on the sixth and Alex delivers almost immediately. Of course. He is weird.

He brings the heat on the sixth. Okay. He is in a very strange mood and he has found some science news that he does not understand. And, oh man, major scientific institutions have come out and they've cross referenced each other's research and it appears that light waves and other matter is in some type of ordered format that appears to be coded, coded and appears to be a simulation. That's why so many top scientists who were atheists got into the 96% of the DNA and we've done reports on this that they thought was junk and found all the coding in there and

got religion very, very quickly. Is that how that worked, Dan? Life did not come out of nothingness. And then the atheists say, well, it must have been seeded here from deep space. Could have. Well, where did that life come from? And then where did that life come from? Deeper space.

It's turtles all the way down, Dan. It is the thought of the creator. It is. Oh boy. God thinks and it is created. It is a simulation of the mind of God, but we are creations with free will made in the image of God and imagine we are, we are genetic expressions, but endowed with a spirit by God who are able to then decipher the coding.

We've now gotten to that point where the scientists are saying there is no God and they're deciphering the coding and going, this whole thing's a simulation. This is designed. This is coded. What is this? And I already knew that because I've read the Bible. Oh, shit. Oh, shit.

We're in trouble. We are in trouble. So, so, so he knew that the world was a simulation because he read the Bible. Yeah. This is a mess. How far, how far into the broadcast on this is pretty early? This is like first 20 minutes, probably maybe after the first break because he's still even back in 2013 had that radio clock where the first couple of minutes aren't on all the

radio stations. Right, right, right. So he usually gets good at about the eight minute mark because that's when everyone's listening. That's when everybody's back on. Yeah. There's a little that. So he's from like zero to about like five minutes or so, four or five minutes.

That's just that no man's land. That's usually station IDs and stuff then commercial break comes back at eight and then boom. Yeah. So it's somewhere around there, I believe it's pretty early. He's getting into the, the, the simulation news. All right. Real fast.

Oh boy. And this isn't news. No, no. This is not going to go well. This is not going to go well. It shouldn't surprise us though at all the idea that Alex has figured out that some people believe the world is a simulation and that he's turned it into proof of his version of God.

Yeah. I'm shocked that it took until 2013 for us to get there. I bet he's dabbled in this before and I'm not entirely sure why he's bringing it up now because most of the stuff he's talking about is from an article that came out and wired on October 11th, 2012. So even this is month sold stuff. Right. And that article was discussing some recent research into cosmic ray particles.

The researchers studying the particles found that they had a limit to how much energy these particles can have and that limit appeared to be arbitrary, which the article presents as possibly representing evidence of built in limits in the physical universe that are part of the parameters. Right. There were a simulation within. Right. So the article isn't written by a lunatic.

So it also points out, quote, it could be, though, that we're incorrectly interpreting evidence of certain fundamental laws that we are as yet unfamiliar with. It could even be that this isn't evidence at all for a simulator as a real lattice might work in a different way as to how we would envision it. Yeah. So it's really that long story short physics, that's a crucial thing here. It's really fun to imagine that we live in a computer simulation and the matrix is real, right?

More measured analysis has to include the possibility that we just don't know anything about the things we're studying yet. Scientists often include this restraint, but it's a real deep human tendency to try to take something that could be suggesting some new finding of science and act like your interpretation is supported by the scientists work. When I hear Alex talking about this article, that's all I really hear. He wants to believe the world is some kind of a simulation. So he takes this article as mainstream proof that it definitely is intentionally ignoring

the part about how it's totally possible. These are just rules of cosmic particles that we don't understand. And he brings Paul Joseph Watson in to talk about it. No! Paul Joseph Watson is a space expert. What? No! He comes in.

He has a very boring appearance on the show. But yeah, it's insane. It's a real religiosity streak that's going on. I get why that's the thing that the religious tack onto it. Because as science starts to understand more and more about how things work, even they're going to eventually have to turn to why things work the way they do. When you start talking about why is the universal constant the speed of light squared? I mean, I don't know.

Why? Because that's what it is. Eventually you're going to have to get to can the universe exist without these rules? Is there universes that do? Are we in a long string of possible universes and some of them have these rules and some don't? Nobody knows. Right.

So God slips in at the very end and is like, hey, guess what? It's Jesus. Boom. Don't get me wrong. I don't not enjoy the occasional thinking about this stuff, but I also don't like what Alex is doing with it. No, absolutely not. So I'm going to play the wall over here.

Let's do it. I didn't do his bullshit. Yeah. So he talks a little bit more about this. And this is where he kind of gets into, there's already shades of religion to his talking about the simulation theory, but here's where it gets deeply fucked up. Scientists and research firms, universities have done huge computer breakdowns on cosmic rays, light rays, you name it, and are finding the same signature of encoding or that it

is a simulation. The DNA has it in there. They found out it's not 96% junk. It is an incredible crystalline antenna system with DNA sequences of all sorts of other life forms in it. And that's why- Did it become crystalline? So many people that are atheists and what does atheists mean?

It just means you're closed-minded and you're sick of seeing fake preachers up there with limited spectrums or fake religions trying to interpret the true spirituality of the universe, which just means we are aware of things being much larger and that we don't have all the answers. And then some Bible thumping Christians will say, what? You're not subscribing to some Southern Baptist interpretation. I'm a radio talk show host who happens to have a relationship with God through Jesus Christ.

But the issue here is, if you didn't beat people over the head, they would become spiritual, which is the first step in awakening, one of the quickest ways to awaken. You can wake people up politically and then they tend to wake up spiritually and that's really my goal. I didn't do that on purpose, but now I'm a little bit more wise than I used to be and understand why God has used me as a tool. So do you understand? This is starting to develop a little bit.

In 2013, we've heard now a couple times that Alex has said that this is a primarily evangelical quest that he's on. Even talking about like, I wake people up politically and then they wake up spiritually. As if the political stuff is almost just a way of Trojan horsing his version of God on people, which is fucked up. That's creepy as shit. It's really weird to think about like maybe there is something, but that's his primary driver.

Yeah. Like just trying to... We have souls or whatever. We have evangelism. Yeah. That's the idea. He feels like his life's work is to follow through on Peter's fucking call to action. Yeah.

I mean, I would say obviously by the present day, he's lost the thread. Yeah. Well, yeah. That's not at all. Well, I believe if one example of him losing the thread is basically what he said is that atheists watched all those bad preachers and were like, there's probably no God. They just don't know that our DNA is a crystalline transmitting machine and if they knew that, then we would never have atheists anymore.

Well, they're just not curious or something. Yeah. And close-minded. Yeah. I'm not entirely sure what he means by a crystalline network of antennae, but I did hear him say that there's other life forms, which leads me to believe he thinks there's like alien DNA that's mixed in with our DNA, which is dangerously close to kary Cassidy business. Yeah.

I think what he's referencing is the... I can't remember exactly what it is, but... Panspermia? Yeah. It's a real RNA kind of idea of certain genetic material doesn't get destroyed in viruses and maybe it was attached to a meteorite. But he's mocking that idea. It hits Aeritha all the time.

I know. It's insane. He's mocking the idea of like DNA coming from space on asteroids. But of course, if we have alien DNA inside of us... It has to come from somewhere. Or aliens were here before us, Dan. Could be. Oh, he is friends with Mark Dice, who's an ancient alien.

That could be it. Oh, he's also friends with George Norrie, who's an ancient alien. Yeah. Weird. So in this next clip, he talks a little bit more about that. And I really think that you can get some strong indications that all he's really interested in in this simulation theory narrative is using it as a jump off point to preach his version of Christianity.

Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Times is increasingly showing that it is the case that we're probably living inside an artificial created universe, then that is proof of a creator, isn't it? Well, the universe was void and then God spoke it, thought it, and it was made. And that's what they find in every discipline now is that it's designed and the human word computer isn't even proper in all of this. There is a governing stricture.

They can see the modulation and off of the projection of the time space continuum, off of just one of the reading, these cosmic rays, they continue to see particles that should be flowing at different rates and modulations with an overall modulation and they can tune it and begin to see the structure of the containment system. I stopped listening. And it's contained within the thought process of the creator, of God, of the great architect, as the Illuminati calls it, but that's actually a biblical term, which they've stolen. And so it is the construction and what does the creator tell us?

You are made in my image, you are creators as well, but small creators and so it is literally the consciousness and the will of God creating all of this, but then giving us free will, which is then flowing forth a whole new level of creation. You don't. Well, precisely. Glad we got PJ Dubbs agreeing there. I just, uh, there's no way that you can respond to that with well precisely. You met Alex.

No matter what you say, it's kind of dismissive, but it's almost fundamentally dismissive. Yeah, should we pause this podcast so I can get high so I can understand what's going on here? Yeah, it feels like we should be in like a college dorm or something. There's a real sense that Alex is just like on some real spiritual business at the beginning of this episode. I think that's one possibility. Yeah.

Another possibility is just like he's out of his league in terms of like understanding these stories, but he still wants to report them. They're kind of in his wheelhouse. Right. Right. The best way to do that is to strip all context from it and just like God. Right. Right.

Right. I think it's probably a good way to do it. Yeah. He's taking the space weirdo story and turn it into a God weirdo story. I get it. He's not going to alienate any of his audience by doing that either. They're like, Oh my God. Why not?

Simulation must mean God. So he jumps off this though. It doesn't take the whole show. It's just the beginning, although he does touch back on it over the course of the show, keeps the plate spinning for the simulation. God's great. Sure. But before he moves on to his next bit of business, he's got to tell you about how successful

he and Ted Anderson are as business people. Okay. And then again, Genesis has always been a mom and pop operation. Now it's arguably the third or fourth largest syndicator in the country. I talked to Ted last week and got the actual numbers. Get guess how many affiliates Genesis has 13 plus 100, 1300 radio stations, 1300 different ones. That is crazy.

I find that almost impossible to believe. I don't understand why you would think that number is possibly inflated. Well, primarily because it makes almost no sense that if GCN is they syndicate to 1300 stations, why would Alex only be on one sixth of them? By his own count, he's only on like 200 radio stations at this point. We know that he offers completely free syndication. So why would those 1100 other stations not air the most popular show on the network if it costs them nothing?

The oldest snapshot you can find on the way back machine at the GCN affiliate list is from October 14th, 2014. And the number of their claiming is substantially smaller than the one Alex is claiming. They allege to be working with 641 radio stations, of which Alex is on 100, weirdly still consistent with that one sixth number. Fun trivia, Joel Wallach, the veterinarian who pretends to be a human doctor has a radio show on GCN, but it's only on 12 stations. Peter Glidden, that fake doctor that we talked about on the last episode has a show too.

It's only on three stations. Also Webster Tarpley's show, World Crisis Radio, similarly only on three stations. That can't be. Why? What? They have a ton of shows that are on like a tiny amount of like small markets. Yeah. They, they offer a lot of stuff for, as I understand the primary business model is free

syndication and then you make ad revenue off them. Oh my God. He created podcasts. It's not as free as much freedom, but I think I still, I don't, I don't want to give them credit for that. I actually misspoke earlier also. I said that Alex was the most popular show on the Genesis communications network. And I guess I just kind of always assumed he was since he's the largest profile host

on the network, but going through those affiliate lists, he's not the most widely syndicated show on GCN. It's the Great British Bake Off. No, it's free talk live, a libertarian leaning calling show that had 165 stations back when Alex had 100. Wow. And they would continue to grow and outpace Alex in all the snapshots that I found. That's cool.

Yeah. A bit more popular of a show. Huh. GCN would go on to cross the mark of being on over a thousand stations by August 2018. But what's fascinating is that if you look over these affiliate lists, the network itself is expanding, but it doesn't appear that Alex is doing the same. He's constantly hovering around the 100 to 120 stations mark. Even as GCN, it added 400 new stations.

It really appears that the growth of the network is seeing is around other shows, not Alex's. There's a very real possibility that he reached his potential already in 2013 and networks weren't even interested in airing his show for free. I think there's a decent possibility. That's crazy. There's two things that I think could explain that. One is Alex's incredibly toxic brand.

Yeah, of course. That I think even back then, even though he wasn't such a monster and everybody knew it, you still might not want his show on your network. You might know of some of the stupid things he said, or you might know somebody who's worked with him in radio and be like, don't work with that guy. Right, right, right. There's all kinds of possibilities. And it only took 10 years for YouTube to get there.

Good work, guys. Yeah. The second possibility is that advertising might cost a ton more on his show. So even though it airs for free, the syndication is free, finding sponsors that would be willing to buy ad time during his show on your network might be prohibitive from a cost standpoint. Yeah, you still have to have good salesmen getting that. It's just Alex taking the burden onto you. You can air my show for free, but good luck paying the ad buys or whatever.

So there's a lot of possibility, but it turns out he's not the biggest thing at GCN, which kind of blew my mind a little bit. I always really thought, and I think he probably was way back, but early 2000s, that free talk live started and I think maybe had a little bit more, maybe they're less toxic and you know, less abrasive, less, less baggage to them, but still libertarian. Yeah. But it seems like if they are so much bigger for GCN, their cultural footprint is ultimately nothing compared to Alex's.

I bet it's big in some circles, right? But yeah. I mean, the terrestrial radio circles probably aren't as plugged into the YouTube culture of the 2013. Yeah. They're not as controversial. Yeah. I have something that's pretty popular, but if you don't make waves, then people outside

of the audience may never actually become aware of it. Right. Like our show. Yeah. I'm willing to bet that that's a possibility with free talk live. It's just way outside our radar. So also what Alex is saying about GCN is a bit misleading. He's saying that they're like the third or fourth largest syndicator of shows based on

number of stations, but even if they were, which they're not, that's a shitty metric for claiming that you're a huge company. Like premier networks, they had over 5,000 radio station affiliates and had way, way higher numbers. They worked with people like Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, Hannity, Ryan Seacrest and Coast to Coast AM. What they were doing is a completely different ballgame than like GCN putting young Jevity fake doctors on a radio station in Barstow, California.

Yeah. Yeah. It's a different game that they're playing. Right. Also Salem radio network had about 2,000 affiliates at that time. Westwood one had over 8,000 stations. So like even if you accept Alex's 1,300 number, it's still far below the main players in the radio syndication game.

He hits 400 in single A ball, but if he ever got called up to the majors, he'd get rocked. Yeah. Yeah. But he, you know, I think this is an indication of Alex feeling pretty good about the business, feeling pretty full of himself. And it gets so good to him that he starts talking about this new shirt that he has, which is the come and take it, the Molan Labay shirt. Oh yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. With a gun on it. Yeah. And you know, there's that wrestling term putting someone over that's when you're like, they're better. Yeah. He, he puts his own shirt over something you would never expect him to his children.

And it's a big color formatted glossy magazine. The first issue was newsprint and it's got a big poster. It's got the poster in the middle of the AK 47 saying the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. You know, with the words inside the gun and the come and take it, that is great to hang up at work or the office or, you know, to put in legal and lawful areas in public commons where people hang up posters. Look at that, baby.

I love how this Texas symbol of come and take it is becoming more popular than even the Gadsden flag. So that's at info wars store.com. He, you know, he's talking about the magazine and the poster that's in it, but it's the image from the shirt and that's how it's become so popular. Right. He's putting it over the Gadsden flag, man. That's crazy.

That's that's that's legendary Patriot stuff. He's like, ah, bigger. This is a great shirt. Yeah, this is a great so much better than the Gadsden flag that I basically pledge allegiance to the Gadsden flag. You know, it's got a lot of baggage, but this shirt about come and take my guns. That one's that one's a fucking blank slate. Yeah.

I like living a life where I don't have to say legal and lawful places all the time. I like to never use legal and lawful places. There's so many times. I wish I would have cut these clips, but I just, uh, I don't know why I didn't. Yeah. Didn't think to he's doing like a free bumper sticker giveaways and it's like, well, send you a 50 bumper stickers, but you got to promise not to put them on other people's cars. Can you not distribute a bumper sticker without getting a waiver?

You do not trust your audience. You have to promise not to. Hey, hey guys. Stop it. I heard it, but I appreciate it. It is. It's the donut all over. Yeah.

I heard it once and I was like, oh, that's weird. And then he kept saying, this is, you might, he might've gotten sued or something. He's got a lot of cease and desist letters. Yeah. He might've gotten a letter. So for a large stretch of this show, like he starts with that simulation nonsense. And then for a lot of the show, he is clowning. He is doing goofy bullshit.

He's doing stuff that clearly is like, is a joke. Like he's talking to collars. He interviews that lady. He has this big news story where a woman got arrested for not letting people come and install a smart meter on her house. And he interviews that lady and he keeps calling her a dissident, like, but do it as a bit. You're like, oh, look at this terrorist over here. He's doing a lot of that, like doing the other side, like satirically.

Yeah. He's testing the limits of the simulation. Yeah. He's just, you can tell he's really having a ball. Well, it's not so great because he explains why he was having fun towards the end of the episode. And it's, it's not healthy. And you see these anti gunners, I mean, they're a bunch of sniveling piles of dog crap.

Excuse me. I'm sick of you people. And I'll tell you the real reason I've been screwing around all hour and making jokes because I'm actually in a rage, man. I'll tell you right now, I'm sick of these people sick of them and who they are and what you're doing. All your crimes, sick of what you're doing to innocent people, I'm tired of your frauds. I'm angry.

I want to bring you to justice. You will be brought to justice. Allen in New Jersey, you're on the air going, yuck. That's very fake. That's actually how I end all of my sets of like, Hey, listen guys, I've, I've been doing this 42 minute long set, but I'm going to close telling you why I've been so funny because I am angry and I will catch all of you. I will destroy all my enemies.

Y'all have been great. Hey, it's a good time. I've been Jordan. Hey, Cleveland. I'm selling a shirt and says, come and take it. It's got a gun on it. It's bigger than the Gadsden flag. I'm actually selling the Gadsden flag.

Come find me at the merch table. Yeah, I don't, I don't like that. I mean, I don't, it rings very false. That's a very performative anger that he's putting on, but also in his mind, he feels like he has to rationalize having fun. Right. Bummer. Yeah, I can't just have fun for the sake of having fun.

Yeah. No sucks. Oh, that's that is a bummer. Yeah, but it's because this is an evangelical quest for him. Right. As he made clear at the beginning of the episode, all of this is really secretly about getting people to accept his version of God. Right.

And that's why at the end of the show, he takes this call and it really, really bummed me out. Yeah, a little inspiration to you. I, I, you found a little down. I asked for God for God and to show me the right way and Fran pointed me in the direction of your show. So I think God's using you. He's using you as a tool.

Well, as out of control as I am, I am that imperfect tool and so are you to ram up against the enemy. And that is my job. I know that I'm doing God's will. Yuck. Yuck. Anybody who knows they're doing God's will is somebody who is probably almost 100 percent not.

Right. Yeah. Alex Jones. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. A hundred percent of the time Alex Jones believing he's doing God's will is fucked up 100 percent. So Alex takes the seventh off.

He just is gone. Just gone. Get out of here. He goes and shoots a bunch of guns and does some fishing course as he is told. He tells us when he comes back. Did he take Rex? Yeah, probably. I don't know.

He actually does mention being with a friend. I don't know how old Rex would have been at this point. He might. You're never too young to shoot guns. So that shouldn't be a qualification. Yeah, fair enough. I bet he did. Who knows?

Who cares? It's fun. Every time he's tried to go out with Rex, he's canceled. And this time he does go out. Or he calls in his row and tells Paul what to do. Aaron Dykes hosts and that means I turned it off after a few minutes. Good call. Don't care.

That guy has no chops. So we get back on the eighth and Alex does something that blew my mind. This I can't understand and I'll explain why on the other end of this clip. And it gets like this more and more every day, but today is a particularly absolutely jam-packed, absolutely crammed, loaded, stacked broad guest. On so many fronts, we're going to report it all. The reported cop killer of these three police officers out in Southern California, former a Navy veteran and a police officer they ran out of the force a few years ago, who

they claim has put out this manifesto saying he's going to go after their families. I've read both of his manifestos if they're real. And let me tell you, if they're not real, the person deserves a Nobel Prize for Literature because it sounds exactly like the MO of these mental patients that the system is now tracking and looking for and sifting through who think it's celebrity to be a cop who are into the power trip, how much he loves Biden, Obama, how he fantasizes about Hollywood, how he wants us to turn our guns in, but he's going around saying he's going to kill innocent patrol cops.

I mean, he's going to kill people, which I'm not saying you should do. Go after the guys. He says did something to him. No, he's just randomly shooting patrol cops, reportedly, allegedly. I've been studying it since yesterday afternoon. Just at a snapshot view, it looks like it's a real shooter. Weird. What?

So I find this profoundly weird. What is going on here? So Jordan, certain patterns have developed about Alex's personality and the time that we've been watching him. And, you know, not only his personality, but his style as a broadcaster, you can get a sense for the sort of stories that he prioritizes, what sort of angles he'll take on said stories and what stories he knows that he's better off just leaving alone, staying away from this story that he's talking about is the story in the news about Christopher Dorner,

who was a guy who killed some police officers. And there was an ensuing manhunt that is squarely in Alex's wheelhouse as a story he would cover and one you would expect to make. He would make the biggest deal out of is the guy black. We're good to that. I don't think that explains everything. I'm not saying it explains everything, but it is. For the entire times in Sandy Hook that we've been covering, Alex has been so consistent

in his claims that the globalists are about to pull off another huge false flag to take away his guns. He's interrupted his own broadcast multiple times because there were school shootings that he thought he could make fit that mold. So here we have someone who's systematically murdering police, which you would definitely think would be something he could work with. But how does Alex respond? This episode is from February 8th.

At that point, police had been searching for Dorner for five days. And this is literally the first time I've heard him bring that story up. He was on vacation for one of those days, but the the yeah, it's crazy. Why? What? How? There is no reason for this not to be on Alex's radar. The first killing was on February 3rd. And by the fourth, that manifesto had been posted online. But listening to Alex's show on the sixth, these just yelling about the world being a

simulation and talking all this weird shit about God and joking around with callers because he's so angry. What makes this even more insane is that what happened after the shootings began is almost exactly what Alex yells about all the time. The L.A. Police Department was very desperate to resolve this manhunt, considering you had a dude who had extensive military training and willingness to shoot at civilians. So in their desperation, they made some mistakes on February 7th, the morning of

February 7th. So this would be after Alex had started his research. Police shot at three people they misidentified as Dorner, which is an underhand pitch. If I've ever seen one, Alex could knock that out of the park so easily yelling about the police state and how they've manufactured this shooting in order to have an excuse to shoot at civilians to train people to know that they're sheep or something.

This is target practice. This is a test for the cops and will you shoot on? Yeah. Will you shoot on the civilians? Perfect. Easy. Easy. It fits so two seconds neatly.

It's a damn layup for Alex. He spent all his energy over these last, uh, this month and a half trying to make shootings look suspicious. But this, like, it's not even an issue for days. And when he does bring it up, this is the one that he thinks is real. That's crazy. But I think it's pretty easy to see why. Okay.

For one, like you pointed out, Christopher Dorner is a black man. Alex's business model is about making excuses for white terrorism. So I don't feel like he feels the need to get out of his way and get too invested when he doesn't have to. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but I don't think that's the whole story. I mean, I kind of do, but I think there's more subtlety that's not captured within that broad explanation. And I think even if he is black, he could fit that into his, his own, you can still

fit that in there. See, Obama is even training black cops to do this too. Black cops about he had it. You can throw that in there. Yeah. The people that Alex insists are not actually shooters, uh, in these situations, whenever we have these mass events are always white, right wing, gun weirdos or fans of his show.

It's one of those groups is what he needs to defend. Yeah. His belief in false flags is based around the idea that people of those groups don't commit crimes ever. So when one is accused of one, it's the globalist setting up a patsy or a cutout or whatever to make it look like they're part of one of those groups in order to demonize that group has to be when the perpetrators of a crime art in one of those groups, he doesn't have anything to run with, regardless

of how closely their actions match up with his beliefs about what the globalists are up to. And that should be very fucking suspicious. Yeah. Dorner is not white. He expresses enthusiasm about Hillary winning in 2016 in his manifesto. Even back in 2013. Oh boy.

He supports reasonable gun control measures and applauds Diane Feinstein for her efforts at getting an assault weapons ban going. And he is definitely not a fan of info wars as he explicitly goes out of his way to say he supports Pierce Morgan's points, but thinks he'll have always have a problem winning gun enthusiasts over because he's British using Alex's twisted logic. If he were to say that this shooting in manhunt were staged, he would be tacitly saying that the globalists were doing it in an attempt to demonize

themselves. And if Alex takes that leap, the narrative completely falls apart. Yeah, that's bananas. Calling the shooting real. I think it's less to do with racism towards Dorner and more about preserving the narrative that he'll need in order to minimize and excuse white terrorism later. Yeah.

This is a protective thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's, it's very interesting the way Alex's mind works vis-a-vis false flags. But I think that if you watch how he, he deals with this, you get a sense that it's, it's super important that he needs it as a defense. Yeah. That is it. Yeah.

And I think it's clear in this next clip that that's kind of the vibe. But what's going on? People say, well, how do you know that it's staged by Obama to have a guy go out and start killing people who's an Obama supporter and loves Joe Biden and says, take the citizens guns. No, this is not the type of stuff the system wants. Okay. Just at a glance, people say, well, how do you know?

Well, there's hundreds of points at a glance that, that just come up. And then I read both of his diatribes. So yeah, why would Obama have somebody do this shooting? Who's a supporter of his? Right, right, right. That kind of thinking is fucking stupid. Here's what I got for you. I'm going to level it up.

All right. I'm going to level it up. Obama infiltrated one of the Patriot groups with the FBI. That guy then ordered. I was really worried you were going to do this. Go ahead, please. Keep going. It's still there to make the Patriots look bad because it's going to track back

to it and there was the Patriots who orchestrated this false flag. Right. And then it's going to get back to the Patriots, but it was actually Obama who infiltrated the Patriots to create this false flag. Or it could be that Obama did this by using one of his own supporters as a patsy in order to make it. So the next time when it is a right wing person, it wasn't set up because it's like, oh yeah, we did, we fucking did that one too.

That is some great shit right there, Dan. Whatever it is, it's all delusional nonsense. It really is Alex taking like it's weird that this is denialism still. Yeah. Even though he's saying it's real, it's still deeply fucked up. It's still very disrespectful to people who are affected by this tragedy. I think this really happened, but also I disagree with all of reality. So I don't know where I stand.

Yeah. So I do think that there is a racial piece to it. For sure. I definitely do. I think that it's more about that preserving the false flag narrative than it is anything else. But in this next clip, we see something that I think might be a little bit racial. And I've gone and really looked into this guy.

And just I see all his photos where the eyes are just gleaming and he's smiling. I've seen that look. I've seen that look. It's I've arrived. I'm a superhero. I'm God. I'm a king. I'm a lord.

I'm royalty. I'm a movie star. I'm Maria Antoinette. So I think I I've seen the pictures that he's talking about. Yeah, I don't think that there's anything other than a guy smiling. Yeah. Yeah, you wouldn't think anything of it if you didn't know that he was a guy who went and shot a bunch of people.

Yeah, you wouldn't think, oh, my God, look at this creepy person. Alex is projecting something that he feels. Yeah, it's probably not good. Do you know what he used a lot of words that boil down to one word? That word is uppity. That is what he was doing right the fuck there and it's fucked up. Probably. But lest you think he's someone whose opinion matters about anything.

This next clip blew my mind because he jumps off. Look, whatever he's talking about here, it doesn't matter. The context of this does not matter because Alex accidentally says something that I really think he should spend maybe an entire show talking about because I really need to hear more about this because you see normally you can't get diseases that most insects have because they're they're they're they're biomechanical system. I see him as biomechanical.

I know technically they're not biomechanical, but they really are. What? And they're little exoskeletons. I think I think that Alex thinks that bugs are machines. What? What did he just say? What? Because they have exoskeletons, bugs are machines. No, I understand. I don't understand how you could say, well, technically they're not. But actually they are. No, that's not how I think that they're biomechanical.

I know they're not mechanical, but actually they are. Yeah, yeah, I think it makes bugs or machines. Please. And that's why we can only get malaria. Talk more about this. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I would love a whole episode about bugs being machines. I need that in our cosmology. Yeah, I this is one I'm going to track very, yeah, any other time from now on, any times bugs come up entomology in any form, we're going to have to keep

this is the new Alex killed his dog. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he thinks bugs are machines. That's wild. So there, of course, it's a day on Alex's show. So there's a new gun fear right about some sort of bill that's going through. And so he gets into that here in this next clip. And I don't remember exactly what it sounds like. But according to the name of this clip, he does a dumb voice.

Here it is. California announces semi auto confiscation plan. Up at info wars dot com and the breathless CBS News is so excited. Oh, California, the most popular state is leading the nation. Why, they have a plan to only allow single shot firearms in the state. That's right. Single shot firearms, arms that only shoot one at a time. And it gets better.

Yes, yes, all the people that have the guns that are going to be illegal. Well, they got to have a program to make them turn those in. At last, California will be safe for the defrocked police officer to reportedly run around shooting other people. That voice wasn't as dumb as I remember it being. But first things first, that gun bill that Alex is talking about was vetoed in October 2013 by Jerry Brown, the Democrat governor of California, who said, quote, I don't believe that this bill's blanket ban on semi automatic rifles

would reduce criminal activity or enhance public safety enough to war at this infringement on gun owners rights. But, but, but I thought the left was just out to get your guns and they hated the second amendment. Why would a Democrat governor veto the legislation that could have easily been made law with just a signature? I'm going to go with, because the Democrats are garbage. I'm going to go with that.

Your feelings aside, all that dumb ideas that Alex has about this thing that never actually ended up becoming a law. I think that last clip is perfect as a representation of how Alex has set him up to be in a position to have his cake and eat it too. As it stands, he's decided that the Dorner shooting spree is real. So he's framing this gun bill in terms of disarming the citizens so they can't protect themselves from Dorner. In essence, the government wants you to be the victims of his real crime.

Now, let's imagine a scenario where Alex said that, you know, like, let's imagine that the shooter was a white right winger. If that were the case, Alex gets to play the angle that the manhunt is fake and only exists to terrorize the public into agreeing to take away the guns. Yep. It works no matter what the input is. That's a good spot to be in. Yeah, the output, the point behind it is exactly the same.

No matter what, it's ridiculous. Yeah, it also seems beneficial in 2013 that all of his positions so long as Obama is in power almost inculcate him from any kind of poor choice. Like anything he does almost seems to work out because it doesn't really matter which way it goes. He's still able to play it. And then once 2016 comes around, now he's defending all kinds of shit. And so once you're on the defense, I mean, we talk so many bad choices.

Yeah, like in the first couple months of doing the show, it's like this game doesn't work whenever you're like not in opposition. Like it really it's really difficult to play the conspiracy theorist truth teller when your party is in control of just about everything. Yeah. And there's no reason for your your shit not to be real. Yeah, you know, everything that you're saying, there's nothing stopping Trump from declassifying whatever he wants.

There's nothing stopping him from telling us about the life extension technology that Alex imagines he knows about. There's there's nothing. It's it's and that's why you have to create the counter counter coup narrative. The deep state has to exist because even when you're in power, you're in opposition. That's the way to preserve the business model. Right. When you get out of you get out of step with reality. Yeah. Well, this thing just the only the only thing that I just realized

from this clip is just how easy it is. You know, like, oh, yeah, like, you know, you can almost take away his agency because there's no bad choice. Yeah. You know, like you I kind of is still considered it as yeah, as long as he was like when he was coming up before Trump, he was making good choices and being successful, whereas in reality, it's kind of just like you can't lose if there's a black president and you're a crazy white racist scream it, you know. Yeah. Yeah. And it doesn't always boil down to that.

But I mean, if it were Clinton, like if Clinton was an office before Trump, let's say, like Hillary or Bill, whatever, yeah, the game would have played the same. You know, yeah, yeah, yeah, the culture got much uglier because of people's feelings about there being a black president. Right. Right. But I think Alex would have been able to do exactly what he's doing. And even with Bush, like it's not it's not even a Democrat necessarily that needs to be there. It just has to be someone he hates. That's all that really matters.

As long as the president is someone he hates. Yeah, this works. Yeah. Oh, he can't love Dan. He can't love no matter how bad he is. It still works as long as he's full of hate. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, man. As long as it's hate, you know, on our last modern day episode, it's like as long as his hatred and conspiracy and anger and focused outrage is directed at the power structure,

there's not really all that much that's that's that that difficult to deal with. Right. It's America. Everybody hates the government. Yeah, there are less victims involved. Yeah. And the problem when you get into the present day with creating this boogeyman of the deep state cabal and all this, it doesn't exist. Yeah. And it doesn't exist in the way that Alex is describing it.

So lobbying all this at that nebulous entity, it doesn't work the same way as like Bush Clinton targeting them for your your outrage. And that's why Alex has to fuck around and victimize little people and just be cruel. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. Yeah. Anyway, maybe some of Alex's pain comes from the fact that one time his mom got flipped off from a helicopter.

Did you know that? What? Was it how close was the helicopter? I'm not sure. This story may or may not be true. But here's Alex telling a story about a helicopter flying by his mom's house and giving her the finger. TV News 5. It's just constant. And you know, when I tried to get Travis County to not buy another helicopter,

it was like 11 million dollars. It flew to my parents' house because for some reason that was my address that I never said is my address. Never lived at that house. I was moved out before they moved there. My dad is having a hovered over the trees. This is like 12 years ago. Now my mom has an iPhone. She would go on tape. She comes out.

They have the door open on the helicopter they had. They hadn't they hadn't bought the new ones yet and flipped her off. That is a great idea. Let's you're going to come flip me off with my taxpayer paid for helicopter Travis County. You need you need to go to the right house. Oh, this crazy former cop with his manifesto and all this who allegedly reportedly it looks pretty bad to me.

This is the real ammo. Not the stage demo. The big Obama supporter, big Pears Morgan supporter. He says, hey, take the citizens guns. Look at how he's gone haywire right there. And he says he's going to kill the families, reportedly, of the cops. Kind of like you went over and harassed my mom. Is that how your brains? Wow.

We'll be right back with a ton of news. The asteroid, the gun grabbing more. So there I think that that's not good defense for him thinking that this is a real shooting. I mean, of course, it is a real shooting. So his conclusion is correct. But his reasoning is so bizarre. These people came over and flip my mom off out of a helicopter.

So the shooter is real. Right. OK. Fine, Alex. This is one of those like fine. Sure. And also, I don't I don't want to get too deep into Dorner today, except for to experience the weirdness of Alex's saying something is real.

Yeah, because the shooting goes on until the 12th. And so like he's on a on the lamb. Yeah, tell the 12th. Yeah. So this is probably going to come back up. I do think so. And I'm interested to see how Alex responds to it. We can get more in depth into like the actual story as maybe he reads an article other than some like just bullet points about his manifesto.

He likes Piers Morgan. Well, this is a real shooting. So it's it's the eighth now. Yes. And it goes on for the 12th. Yeah. So I am hoping for some serious whiplash on a day to day basis. The ninth, it's fake shooting. The 10th, it's a real shooting again.

The 11th. Anything anything could happen. Yeah, like honestly, I don't expect him to be consistent. Yeah, no, of course not. I don't know. We'll see. So this next clip, he gets off the shooting stuff because I don't think he thinks it's that huge a deal, which is weird because it was. I remember this very clearly, this period of time.

And the media was all over this because it was a very scary story. Right. The idea of somebody who had military military training on the loose, who had an axe to grind with the police department and felt that they had been wronged by the police department and justly terminated and were willing to take this route as a way of clearing their name. Right. Like it's a very scary circumstance. Yeah, yeah, because because of like what we already talked about too,

like the police figuring out how to respond to that. Like it's it's very scary. And the media was all the fuck over it. Yeah, I imagine if Rambo wasn't set in a different country, it was set down your block and he was coming after you. Like, yeah, it evokes that in your brain, though. And for Alex to treat it as so like kind of it's weird because he is talking about it,

but he doesn't seem to care that much. He does care a little bit on this episode about that. There was news of an asteroid that was going to come fairly close to Earth. Yeah. But everybody is like, it's not going to hit the Earth. And he's like, yeah, it's not going to hit the world. We're not going to die. But these people lie. I like that. All right, Alex. I like that. What was that? What was that arrow?

So I don't remember the name of that one. Interesting angle for him to take, which is you're all good. But these people are liars. You might not be OK. It's going to pass within 20,000, 27,000 miles of Earth, but also it might be coming for your house. Yeah. So there's that stuff going on. And I think it's I think all that's interesting, but there are two things that happen on this episode

that are far more interesting to me. And here is the first one. I think Alex slips up a little bit at the beginning of this clip and then overcompensates by trying to do some bits towards the end. Oh, no. I've been watching all this as Glenn Beck says, Carl Rove is a fake conservative. Follow me and Freedom Works and Dick Army.

And then you've got Rove firing back. I'm the real conservative. You're destroying America. Carl Rove, I raised four million dollars and got two people elected and you didn't get anybody elected. You can be both right. And Freedom Works is like, how dare you? They don't know how to defend themselves.

Freedom Works is not perfect. And I don't really trust Dick Army, but they actually have done some pretty good things. Even though Glenn Beck's associated with it, I will tell you, it is a lot better than Carl Rove. Well, on the scale of things, like they say in Ghostbusters, you know, imagine, you know, it's like imagine paranormal activity.

Each one of these ghosts being one Twinkie. Well, imagine a Twinkie, you know, 80 feet long and weighing about 30 tons, or whatever they say. He was, that's a big Twinkie. I mean, you know, it will have to use the scatical logical stuff. We're talking about Carl Rove. He's really obsessed with that. And all he talks about is poop all day.

You didn't know that his nickname is Turd Blossom by George W. Bush. Carl Rove is like a 80 foot long, 20 ton turd. And then Glenn Beck is like, you know, he's like a porta potty that's been at the Super Bowl. And it's fully loaded, like a fully loaded, you know, baked potato. Whoa, he's his estrogen loaded. Anyways, I'm sorry. So you got all I'm sorry.

I shouldn't be mean like that. I always just always watch Glenn Beck prancing around, trying to act manly and just the whole thing. Because some guys who are really tough, try to act gentlemanly and effeminate. It's the opposite of like some British fencer that will kill you in five seconds and switch your throat, turn into a demon and climb around on top tables versus people that really are nilly like that.

And it's not bad. I mean, it's OK, Glenn. Anyways, the point is, the way his fantasies about me and Charlie Sheen. Have you heard those? I'm not joking. He constantly on air fantasizes about these folks and stuff with me and Charlie Sheen. Hey, dude, Charlie likes women.

I'm going to give you a little newsflash. Believe me, I've probably stated this house 15 times. Talk about a conspiracy theory. Excuse me. I'm sorry. I'm going to stop right there. I have now entered the twilight zone. I think it's good therapy for me to go out and shoot the 50 cal. So that's I strongly disagree.

If this is the result of you taking a day off to go shoot a bunch of guns, this is not good therapy. It might be very ineffective therapy. I think he started saying positive things about freedom works. Right. And then was just like, I got to do something. Started just grabbing at whatever he could come up with. Oh, hey, you know, Carl Rose likes poop. Glenn Beck's gay.

Turd blossom estrogen. Some men are effeminate, but manly and he is effeminate and also effeminate. I think that was pretty much just scrambling because he had said something positive about a group that he should be 100% opposed to. I really am scared of his genuine laughs. Those fright me because that he really thought that was funny. And I don't understand. He could barely keep going.

Yeah. He was about to fall over in his chair. Yeah, that's a little giggle, baby. That's dangerous. Yeah. Yeah, I don't it's very, very, very unpleasant. Yeah. I think that it's telling that Alex isn't against freedom works. Right.

It's telling that he knows about them because I mean, the fact that he's aware and not against them means something. Yeah, it doesn't mean that he's taking money from them, but it's it's a mismatch of where he should be from his own narratives. You know, yeah, it's another piece of him being full of shit. He should know that they're coke related. Yeah, if he knows about Glenn Beck's involvement with them. Right, right, right.

It's it's weird. I don't know. Oh, and also George W. Bush didn't call Carl Rove turd blossom because he liked to talk about shit. It was a reference to a flower that grows out of shit. As if to imply that Carl Rove made the most out of you in the worst situations. Alex is very stupid. But while we're on the subject, I was looking up various nicknames

that Bush had for people and I had forgotten how insane his nickname habit was. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's a lunatic. Did you know that he used to call Marine Dowd the Cobra? I did not know that the Cobra. I don't know all the nicknames. I know they were fucking stupid. Half the time you know that he used to call Sir.

Silvio Berlusconi shoes. What's up shoes? I did not know that. Why? What is there a backstory? I need to know more. My favorite, though, is that he used to call Vladimir Putin ostrich legs. God damn it.

See, he was too stupid to be evil. It's all Cheney, man. What's up, ostrich legs? Bush was just Bush was just a fucking idiot. Or how much of that is PR? You know, he had fun nicknames for people. You're buying hook, line and sinker, man. He just does seem like a fucking idiot, though, right?

All that. A lot of that stuff seems to match up. Yeah. So Alex was kind of losing it there, doing some doing some good poo humor. I just think he, I think he lost his wind, like maybe halfway through. You know, like you'll see a wrestling or a boxing match where someone's cardio doesn't hold up, you know, and they're just like, ooh, you're on your last legs. Trying to finish the contest, run out the clock.

I think Alex is in this clip. He's he's so fucking loopy. I just think that he's he needs to regroup my brain rounded up. But it's proper to a 21.6 didn't do too good in school. Don't know much about history. Don't know much about geography. Don't know too much in the books I read. But that would be really good intro music.

I had that about 15 years ago. I had. So I want Sam cook. Don't know much about his story, but I do know that I love you. Man. Yeah. Anyways, getting back, I'm just so happy about the asteroid. It's asteroid time.

Asteroid party. This is not an OK man. All right. Oh, man, Richard took me sprinting this morning. He said, Alex, you're swimming two miles a day. You're jogging three, four miles. You're lifting weights and you're getting fatter. And he goes, you put your body into stress mode.

You got to go sprint. And he took me sprinting. And I had probably hadn't really sprinted full power since I was did one one stint of track and was a freshman. And it just felt so good to get my hippopotamus. I'm not really that fat when I'm sitting over. I look fat, but when I'm a little I lost a lot of weight and quit doing all the young Jebi and I'm going back to doing it.

This is not a morning zoo show. You know, I think I am starting to go a little crazy. Don't be honest with everybody. You know, I'm just I mean, a man can only take so much of this baloney. That's what Baloney was sprinting the Baloney. I don't know. I think it's just another thing he's he's obliquely referencing is that Hillary Clinton had recently pulled fairly well.

Oh, favorability ratings. Gotcha. Being discussed about Hillary. And he's like, no one likes her. That's I think that's most of the Baloney that he's talking about. Gotcha. Gotcha. But man, he is in a weird state. He's in a real fucking weird place, just like getting all crazy,

thinking about songs he wants to hear and then getting into like, I went running today. I'm not that fat, but that kind of fact, because I stopped taking young Jebi when I got to take it again. I love running. Yeah, it's the age old sign when you say anyways, the point is, and then get back onto your weird tangent. Like you're almost going to dismount the weird tangent,

but then veer right back into it. Yeah. Yeah. But he's excited about the asteroid time. It's asteroid party time. And so he begins sort of sarcastically covering the asteroid news. There's a strange feeling. And then something happens that we've seen before, but not very often. Let's go ahead and play this clip on DA 14, the asteroid.

And this is from the Jet Propulsion Laboratory. And they're, they're telling everyone that do not worry, remain calm. Don't worry about all those spaceships you see taking off, all the space shuttles out of underground bunkers. The Nevermind Godzilla just came out of the sea and is attacking Tokyo. Let me see who's calling from an unknown number. What? Hello.

Hey, how are you doing? We still on for that? What? You can't do that. That's not good. Okay. So we're not, you want to do it next week or is that too late? Are you setting up plans?

All right. Well, I understand. Let me do this. Let me, let me call you back in like three minutes. Okay. You're on air. All right. Thanks, Bob.

Harold or Lavera had me booked for a Saturday show. That's the winter storm hit and everything. So I was going to have fun going on. How about Super Bowl and the Illuminati? Too bad. Too bad. I was looking forward to that. Alex is so desperate to get on any other show.

Well, I don't know. Allegedly, Geraldo's Booker. Who knows? I just mean here. Like, is he even talking to the radio audience or is he just talking to himself? I mean, I know I used to, you know, listen to a love line when I was younger. One of the things Adam would always talk about is like the idea of like, I

don't, I just, I don't think I'm talking to anyone. Maybe there is something with like, after years and years of doing radio, you kind of just tune out to the idea that anyone's even listening. Right. Right. I was like, have a business meeting on air. Hey, hey, Geraldo's great. Hey, what's going on?

Ah, he just took a call. Yeah. Oh man. That's not pro stuff. Maddo does that a lot now, though, too. True. After the Miller report didn't become the bombshell she was hoping for. She's, she's just taking calls.

We all cope with disappointment in the same way. So Alex is kind of disappointed, but I think, I think really what's going on is that he doesn't want to cover all this stuff. He doesn't, he's decided that the Dorner shooting is real good enough. Rubberage. Right. Right. I don't want to talk about Hillary's positive ratings.

I don't, I don't want to fucking talk about that is asteroid stuff. I don't, I don't want to talk about it. I'm going to, I'm going to accidentally say it's real. Yeah. The asteroid is actually false flagged by the globalist. Yeah. Why not in this next clip? I kind of, this is where I got the sense that he like,

he doesn't really even want to be doing his show. And that's why he keeps just fucking riffing on stuff. Now, what we're going to do is I'll just take phone calls for a couple of segments because that, that little piece of news sent me off and do a bad, bad place, mentally, a good place where I don't want to focus on all this. I don't want to do this. I don't want to do this. I was talking about that asteroid story.

I don't want to fucking do this. I don't want to do this. I don't want to do this. That guy actually kills people. I don't want to do that. No, it was the asteroid. Yeah. The asteroid that's going to kill people.

I don't want to mess with that. I don't want to fucking do this. I did. You know what? Let's, let's take some calls. What kind of weird shit you guys got to say? So Alex starts talking about cops being aloof. This is, I mean, good enough.

Then he starts telling a story. And this is one of these, this is one of these instances where I don't believe this story. My great grandfather was an asteroid. I also don't care about this story. It was a good one. I do think that this is an indication. This is Alex trying to be funny.

I think, I think this is definitely purposeful. Yes. Gotcha. Unsuccessful. Of course. Purposeful. So many of the bureaucrats and cops and others that, that, you know, they think they're God and get this royal attitude in this North Korean

dictator type, just swaggering. The same look you see in North Korean police, you're starting to see in big city cops eyes. And like New York, Chicago, LA, I've seen it. And it's, it's, you see it, you're like, man, that's a bad person. The swagger, the satisfaction, the arrogance. Oh, hi, officer. Can you tell me where, and I've done this in New York since it happened to

me first, you know, for real. Many times when I'm there, I'll see some police stand around with their hats sideways, smoking cigarettes, cigars, bellies hanging out. And they're on duty. You're like, oh, hi, officer. Can you tell me where Central Park is? Do I look like a phone book or directory? Don't you have a smartphone?

Where are you from? And if you act scared, they'll go, all right, I tell you. Oh, Rick, come on, you stupid little monkey boy. And I'll tell you where it's at. But if you actually bow up to them, they'll be like, go away. Where are you going? And in your body, he talks. Did I tell you to talk?

This is actually on video and martial law. I'm talking to this guy. What, you missed a tough guy, huh? Hey, from Texas, you think you're a tough being from down here in Texas? Well, they ride back, it's like he's a gentleman. I it's not just because he laughs out to break. I think he's he really thinks that impression is funny. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

He thinks he's doing a great job crushing it. He is really. Hey, I'm not talking to this guy away. Yeah. Yeah. It has something of a like a made man, but it's a cop. But also it's a guy who's on the corner at your bar. Like it's a very bad impression. That's a bad impression at the bit doesn't develop.

Uh-uh. It doesn't. There's no. Where was it supposed to go? I could have gone anywhere. It really went nowhere. I think it's a problem. I think you if you're doing this one, you go all the way back to to like the Irish cops. You go back to the coppers and you do the whole. Yeah, you do that whole angle.

You give them an Irish accent. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. They're into box your ears. Yeah, I think you go that direction. They could be. So Alex is he's talking about that, you know, like the cops are aloof. They're bad cops. You see it in their eyes.

And a lot of this is to reinforce his ideas that the Dorner shooting is real. Right. Right. Right. Which again, it is so good. I guess. Fine. Don't like what you're doing with it. But at least the conclusion. Again, at least the conclusion is not denial, not fully denying reality.

Yeah. Um, so he gets into a metaphor about his dog chewing wires. And this isn't an example of him killing a dog because he's telling the dog not to chew on the wires. Right. But he's kind of, I see the look in your eyes. It's very suspicious. All the same.

Hey, don't chew on those wires. Chompa, choppa. So he's talking about that being like, hey, the dog wants to chew on the wires, but, you know, don't, and then his brain jumps back to the shooting. And what he says, I think, is incredibly fucked up. And you don't want to chew those electoral courts. Now until the police something, OK, the dog didn't understand me. He kept doing it until he finally figured out those little snakes or whatever

he thinks they are hurt. Do you don't want to try to disarm the 160 million gun owners and start harassing us and messing with us and then get a war going? Because you have 1% fight spec. That's 1.6 million combatants who all they got to do is go out and bag one cop, disappear and every cop in America is dead, which we don't want that to happen. We'll be right back. Oh, man.

That's unintended consequences right there. That's that book. OK. I mean, you know, a little bit different, but there is a shade of that in there. What he's doing is more or less using the Dorner shootings as like, hey, this is what's going to happen to you if you try and take our guns, which is a deeply fucked up way to report on this story. Yeah, it only takes what, hey, look, 99% of gun owners, they're not going to cause

any problem, but that 1% they're going to kill every cop in America. If you take our guns, just saying, that's not a threat. Hey, come over here. Give me a couple more stab you. It's, you know, I know that he does feel this way. And, you know, he has had those, you know, he had that caller who called and talked about unintended consequences. That yeah, he said it's a great book.

So we know that he is at least professing to have read it. Right. And he certainly has like, uh, expressed, uh, a connection with the, uh, Louis B and leaderless resistance ideas. Yeah. Uh, he is an apologist for Timothy McVeigh. Yeah. Yeah.

01:11:41,520 --> 01:11:41,920 Yeah. 01:11:41,920 --> 01:11:42,920 He's white Isis. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So there's a lot of that stuff in there.

So you know that he feels this way, but like if they try and take our guns, we'll all rebel and kill a bunch of people. You know that. Right. But on the day that he decides to start covering a targeted, uh, murder spree of police officers and police adjacent people, it's weird for him to use that ongoing story as a, uh, sort of an example of, Hey, this, this could be worse for you.

If you try and take our guns, uh, that's fucked up. I think he meant to, as a, as a comfort to the cops, like, Hey, at least you guys aren't taking our guns and we are all killing you. It's just one guy targeting you. I mean, I don't like your glasses have full, uh, approach to this. I just think it's, uh, you know, it's the wrong way deeply fucked up. It's the wrong way to look at this story. Yes.

Yes. I, I think I agree with you. So in this next clip, Alex does express that it could be fake. Well, yeah, but I mean, you have to entertain the possibility. Yeah. And he, to his credit, I guess, or the reverse, he entertains the idea that it could be fake, but then it's like, it's not very good. Right.

And then says something that like it really undercuts all of his narratives. Now they're now saying in the one in telegraph and ABC news that there were racist police and that's why he has to go out and shoot white officers. Uh, and people are saying, well, could it be staged? Uh, they're not going to stage something where somebody's out killing people and then saying he loves Obama and Biden. If somebody were, if somebody fake these manifestos, they have super advanced knowledge that I don't really think very people have of the mindset of the

minion enforcer class. Okay. This person deserves a Nobel prize in literature if it's fake. And it could be, it could be. Um, I mean, you never know, they may have killed this guy and this is some saw, but I just doesn't, there's dozens of little points that say it's not. Uh, and we're going to be talking about that. And, and, and what's, what does the government think?

If there's a civil war and the cops aren't out on motorcycles and they're hiding out with one guy, I mean, you know, in the real world, the guy was to kill cops, going to kill cops. You just have police ready. And, uh, when somebody gets killed, you vector in on that and get the guy. And he's all your tabletop exercises won't help you and all this stuff. I mean, he's playing soldier. He was trained to be a soldier and then to be a cop.

And then, uh, that didn't work out. So now he's targeting you. That's why you don't want police who plays soldier against the citizens. Soldiers go and burn down cities and kill the enemy. So Alex for ever has been yelling about how the DHS and, uh, you know, people are warning that, uh, you know, returning veterans, uh, or it can possibly, uh, you know, go bad. Yeah.

Uh, and that represents a very severe domestic threat. The idea of people who have military training becoming insurgent in the homeland is a very real threat. Alex takes that to be an attack on white people. And now we have this situation where that exact thing is happening. And he's saying, well, I mean, soldiers are trained to kill. Right. He's essentially making the same argument that these people that he

screams, uh, back at are making. Right. It's very bizarre. Um, it's not that bizarre, but. It's bizarre how predictable. Yeah. Yeah. It fits perfectly in the pattern.

Yeah. I, and the, the additional, like it's not why this guy or anybody kills people that he loves Obama. However, that can be used as supporting evidence for that. He would be killing people or anyone would. Well, that's why he fits the profile of it. Exactly, exactly. He talks about it in these like, uh, vague terms of like this.

Really sophisticated writing of this manifesto that mirrors, but all he ever says specifically is like, he wants, uh, gun control measures past. He supports Obama. Yeah. He likes Piers Morgan. Yep. That's about it. And if that's all that your qualifications are for a deep psychological

profile of the, a real shooter, you're, this is woefully stupid. Yeah. This is simplistic and, and fucking awful. Um, but at this point, Alex jumps back to the asteroid party, uh, because he realizes he hasn't covered this news, uh, in the way that something that could be world ending deserves to be covered. Uh, and thankfully, you know, last time he was sort of being sarcastic about like, uh, you know, Godzilla and all that shit.

Thankfully, this time he decides to approach the issue with class, a plumb, uh, and, uh, very sincere, serious coverage. Now let's go ahead and go to the video here of, uh, and it turns out that it turns out, ladies and gentlemen, that space command has dispatched a spacecraft and the, and the, and the asteroid is on a collision course with earth and that they're hoping to take it out with some boosters. They're going to fire at it and have mounted on the side to direct it away, but they've got to get the booster rockets up to the speed to be able to

come up against it at 17,400 miles an hour to land, to then thrust it out away from the earth. Right. And we've got live feet of that. We're going to it right now. Here it is. Okay. Got it.

April is coming up. April 1st, joke early. The asteroids, the asteroids, uh, 17,000 miles away is where it's going to pass. Yeah. Yeah. So I mean, April 1st, April 1st, April 1st, April 1st, April 1st, not a good joke went too long.

Went a little long. What is this corn ball? What is he doing? He's taking calls on air. Fucking the space. Does he have a sound board where he's going to play fart noises next? He's, he's dangerously close to that. This is insane.

This is nuts. Yeah. This is a, this is a weird, even for like any period of time. This is a bizarre, uh, thing to see on his show. Yeah. The level of not caring. I, and I, I thought it was outrageous. Yeah.

I mean, I'm actually, I'm actually happy that he went to space invaders or asteroids or whatever it was for his reference. Cause I felt like the Armageddon reference was right there. It was twoies. Sure. It's twoies. I'll just play, just play some Bruce Willis do the whole thing. Yeah.

Also fuck you, man. You can't joke like this. You did that show on, uh, on Y2K. You can't do this. Right. You can't, like it's almost like, what does he do? Is he trolling his audience? I don't know.

Cause he did say that like Russia was shooting nukes. Yeah. Stuff like that on, uh, on Y2K. Like he's, this isn't to parody, uh, necessarily. This is accurate. Yeah. I would say he might have reported 15 years prior. I would say he's trolling us, uh, but we're back in 20.

He is a psychic though. That's something you always, he could have seen us. He could have seen us coming years in advance. Yeah. Um, so on this episode here on February 8th, Alex goes into overdrive. Uh, he finishes up his normal three hour show and then gets into the Dorner shooting a little bit more in overdrive. And he, he kind of is a little bit more explicit about why he thinks this

one's real, uh, in overdrive. This guy going crazy out in California does not help the gun grabber program because he's been former military who was also a cop. That's why they're trying to focus on his military service because they want to demonize the military because that's a group they don't control, not the police. Um, I'm going to get more into this after your calls. That's why I'm going into overdrive is to take your calls and cover this. Could have done during your fucking show, but, um, and he doesn't really get

that much more into detail than that. It's just, it's a very weird standard of that, uh, proof to be like, this doesn't help the gun grabber agenda. Therefore it's real. Yeah. And also why, why doesn't it help the gun grabber agenda? I don't know. I think it still does.

Yeah. Um, the guns are the problem that we have and how they are killing people. Right. I don't care who is behind the gun killing people. The problem is that. And that heavily implies that Alex isn't super interested in the gun grabbing agenda either. It's really what's the, the defense of who's behind the gun.

Yeah. Yeah. That's why they came up with the guns. Don't kill people. People kill people is because they're like, well, it's our people and kill people. You know, it's a, it's a, it's a weird, it's a weird thing, man. Because if he's saying that this is real because it doesn't fit the gun grabber agenda, which he has decided what that is, he's created the

parameters of what that is, the definitions, everything. And he can change it at will. Absolutely. But it also implies that all it takes for something to be fake to him is it fits in with the definitions that he's created of the gun grabber agenda. Yeah. That's a low standard of proof. One would say an almost non-existent standard of proof.

Yeah. In fact, not proof at all. It really is so close to, I'm just making this up. Yeah. It's shockingly close. You could just say it to, I'm winging it. I'm paranoid and freaked out about someone taking my gun that I enjoyed shooting yesterday.

Uh, and, uh, hey man, I'm going to create a worldview about it. That works for me. But please believe that I've read things. Oh yeah, for sure. So in this next clip, Alex suggests, um, another reason why he thinks, uh, that this is a real thing. Um, and that is, it has to do with the media. Do you imagine if Christopher Dorner was a tea party member?

I mean, it would be the end of the world. If this guy was a tea party or see it fits the script, there was a tea part of your black guy. Ooh, that'd be even better for him to then can demonize, you know, true groups at once, but wait, military. And then in fact, he was black, they would demonize. But again, it doesn't fit the script to have the cop because that's, it's not they care about cops.

They want that to be off record. Can't question that because that's the domestic force they're going to try to use to go after the public. But again, the biggest angle to all of this, Eric, is this, I'll cover it when I get back briefly, then go to Kathy, the absolute key straight ahead. Let me tell you a day of bass fishing and firing 50 cowl and 308. I just absolutely feel like I had a five month, five month vacation. He doesn't get to the key.

I was looking for that key. Well, it seems like it would be right back. I thought the key might have been go fish. Metaphorically and literally. Yeah, yeah, yeah, go fish, pull a card, play the game. So he starts talking to some lady who calls in. Who is a church lady that Alex has met and that's special. He's known her for 17 years according to what it's weird.

She talks about running into somebody. I think at the supermarket, who talks about a soldier that committed suicide and it's a, it's an upsetting phone call. It's not worth listening to. It's a second, third hand information. Great. Um, great. And he's just hearing the two of them gab.

Yeah, just having a nice little. Okay, that's what he feels a lot of the time overdrive as opposed to getting to the key, uh, and here is the end of the show. This is the end. He does half hour of overdrive and this is the end of it. And I just think that this is damning all of his claims that anything is fake ever. I think it's good. The police have shot up two people's vehicles who were innocent.

They didn't even look like the suspects vehicle. I think all Californians should arrange themselves at the end of the block for the police to drive by and shoot them and their families for their safety. I mean, that's reasonable, isn't it? No, no, seriously, I hope they catch this guy. Uh, it's really terrible. What's happening? Um, but he is a big Obama and Pierce Morgan supporter.

I bless you. So that's, that's how you're going to end. Yeah. And that's literally out to the end of the show. Pathetic. So, I mean, obviously that stuff is facetious at the beginning. He's not saying that people should get shot or anything like that. But the way he ends there is I hope this guy gets caught.

You know, he is a big Obama and Pierce Morgan supporter. And, but that is exactly what he says the media does to him. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hold on. That's when they do it to me. But that's exactly what he cries bloody murder about all the time. He's like, they say we're right wingers are saying, say all of us are guilty by association, but yet here he cannot stop bringing up that this guy is an Obama supporter.

And that means it's a real shooting as opposed to the fake ones that are done by people who like what I do. This is not good. Well, this is this is a shocking glimpse. You know, this the old saying turn about his fair play. But what if you changed it and said, I'm going to unfairly only turn about you and fuck off preemptive turn about his false bad play. Yeah, false, false play.

I wish I had to work that. But where's Benjamin Franklin at when you need a poor Richard Zellman at that situation? I don't I don't like this. It's I mean, I do in one sense. Like I really I really don't like the way he covers things that matter to people and like really deeply traumatic events. Yeah, there's even when he's dealing with it as a real thing.

It's it's still fucked up. Yeah, but I do think it's very interesting and worthwhile because I don't I don't know the last time we've seen a major event that's happened and Alex has covered it as real. Yeah, it's it seems like the exception, not the rule. Right. And what it takes for it to be seen as real. All it is is I don't think it fits the gun grabber agenda. Oh, he's an Obama supporter.

Right. That's all it takes. That's all it takes for it to be real. Yeah, for him, which means the times that he thinks things are fake means nothing. He's not basing any of this shit on anything. So yeah, I don't know. It's it's I'm very interested to see how this develops over the time until the manhunt ends because it will I think the longer that it goes on, the worse his argument gets because there is a sense of it that like the media

would be going crazy about this if it was a tea party guy. But the media was going crazy with it. They were all over it because it's a crazy fucking story. Yeah. So I don't know. I don't know how this is going to hold up. But I think it stinks because it stinks. And then secondarily, I think it stinks because it's five days after this shit started. Yeah. What is he doing?

I have no idea. It's not this is wild. Yeah. So we'll find out what happens in a later episode. But for now, we got a website. It is knowledge fight dot com. We're on Twitter. We are on Twitter at knowledge underscore fight. And I'm at go to bed Jordan.

We're also on Facebook. We are available. We are also on the iTunes. We are on the other podcast dual applications. Where else would you find a podcast? Forests, bugs are real dot com. Bugs are machines. Yeah.

Yeah. I'll tell you what. Oh, boy. Let's see. Who do you got? We don't have a lot of winners on this one. Nope. Oh, I don't know. Linus Pauling probably did kill some people with his vitamin C nonsense.

Yeah. Yeah. That one seemed that one seemed clean, but I don't think it is weird. Weird that you can both win a Nobel Peace Prize saving lives and at the same time be responsible for the deaths of lots of people. Possibly. Possibly. Could be. I don't know. Glenn Beck, Alex made fun of him.

He's probably not killed anybody. Yeah. But one guy who technically probably has is Alex Jones. Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. Hello, Alex. I'm a first name caller. I'm a huge fan.

I love your work. I love you.