Knowledge Fight - #319: July 7-8, 2019

Episode Date: July 10, 2019

Today, Dan and Jordan take a disappointing look at Alex Jones' last few days. Everything about this is disappointing.

Andy and Kansas you're on the air. Thanks for holding So Alex, I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you. Hey everybody Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're couple dudes like to sit around drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones Oh, indeed. We are Dan Jordan Jordan Dan. Mm-hmm Dan. What was the last wild animal you saw last wild animal ice? I mean it like wild bird. No, no, you know what I mean birds are wild Get that they're wild they're far out like in a zoo No, no, I mean like in the forest like when was the last time you I was in a forest I don't know. You grew up in Missouri. You you probably saw Bobcats all the time

Yeah Well, we have some Bobcats, right? I One night I was at a comedy show as a back when I was doing stand-up and I was down on Fullerton And I don't know what the cross street was but ways west on Fullerton. All right, not super far west I was smoking a cigarette pretty drunk after the show, of course and what should I see walking down the street but a wolf Swear to God Walking down the street Like casually just walking along it turns out like that isn't super uncommon

Really? There are some like wolves and coyotes. You'll see From what I understand I've talked to some people who have also seen some more things also I wasn't alone. This can be confirmed. Okay. It was It was a wolf walking down Fullerton Well, you're preemptively getting all the tweets about people being like that was probably a dog. You saw yeah I just I'm already defensive wolf sighting Other than that, I mean, I guess well, I think seeing a wolf in Chicago is a bad-ass wild animal story wolf

Yeah, it wasn't John Boynton that yeah, I think so. Yeah, the other one that sticks out in my head was much Longer ago as I was a kid like a camping Saw a moose. You saw a moose. Everyone freaked the fuck out. Yeah for this moose. They're huge Yeah, we had to run and get in our like minivan because my parents were scared of yeah What the moose could do and up to that point all my associations with moose were like bullwinkle, right? Right and so like I didn't think that a moose was yeah, right. Yeah now as an adult I realized like they could fuck you up. They could really fuck you up. Yeah. Yeah, so I'm glad we got in the van Yeah, it was it was neat to see it from a like pretty close in the relative safety of a car

Yeah, like a moose is a pretty cool animal. Yeah. Yeah. Also. I've been thinking lately about getting an exotic pet One of the two just an iguana just walking around with one of the guanas on your shoulder I'm realizing how much I like plants and animals As I get older in life, I kind of realizing like I really like animals. I really like plants Maybe I should be around them more. I think you just really hate this place. I think so Anywhere right now. Yeah, and that actually is probably something we should bring up Yeah, because I try and keep my personal life kind of personal To an extent, you know, like I don't like to complain on this show when it's not about Alex or people who are lying for a living

right, right, right, but As everyone who listens to the show knows I had to move in April I moved into a new apartment and almost immediately It became a bit of a nightmare. Yeah for the last three months. I have had incredibly disturbed sleep because of this place the Neighbors have been incredibly loud the guy upstairs for me. Just like my place shakes when he walks around. It's it's a It's very it's very difficult And so I am moving again That's the long and short of it. Thank God. Yeah, and so it is time to get you out of here towards the end of this month

I am going to have to move again, and I hope that there won't be any disruption In terms of the podcast, I think it might go a little smoother than last time possibly Although it is the potential to be way rougher. Yeah, that's true. Things could go very wrong, and we will see but In the next couple of weeks there will be there might be some interruptions There might be some disruption of service possibly hopefully not but possibly just to give you a little warning in advance Yeah, but it's it's crucial because I have to get out of here. Oh, no, you've been sleeping like three hours every week Yeah, I mean some some days. It's almost nothing. Yeah, it and it's almost a miracle I've been able to keep doing this show quite seriously. I have been waiting for you to murder me

Yeah, there have been days when I'm running on fumes. There have been days when it's it's just it's incredibly insane the the the various Noise pollution aspect of this place. Oh, yeah, and various other things that are no good But hopefully it'll be on the up and up soon. So sorry if we miss some episodes coming up, but I Also, I'm not sorry. Yeah, I mean at the end of the day, you know, yeah, you got to get the fuck out of here And one of the things about this is to that like it's difficult because I am not well off, right? And so as these things happen here, there's expenses and it's it's a challenge and I really Can't stress enough how much I appreciate the support of people who like this show

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Jeffrey Epstein right right right. I am not particularly interested in covering that because I believe that there are media outlets that can do that much more Precisely much better than I can I'm also not particularly interested in covering Alex's version of it One of the main reasons is because all he does is talk about how Trump never hung out with him And Jeffrey Epstein was just friends with the Clintons And I don't care to respond to that because then it becomes this game of like no Trump did hang out Yeah, yeah, and I feel like that minimizes the severity and seriousness of this situation I honestly think that as good of research as we sometimes can do and and I just I think that a situation like this is a little bit beyond my pay grade and I don't trust that we could

Cover it with the Respect it deserves. Yeah, I would say that's a good way of putting it also not covering it means my obscenity quotia a quota a quota a quota is going to be way lower quotient. It's quotient Couldn't find the word so One of the things that's actually kind of interesting is that Alex really doesn't cover it that much Mm-hmm. I I dipped in here on Sunday the 7th was Sunday, and I expected to be wall-to-wall The Clintons going down and really I did. Oh, okay Because it's such a big piece of his his worldview right there it is that I thought for sure

It would just be nothing but Epstein talk. Yeah, and I was shocked to find if there's not much He doesn't talk too much about that situation. He declares victory and claims the Trump's not involved He declares victory. Yeah, I apologize. I should have expected him to declare a victory. So Alex is mostly I Here's how I would describe it Alex is definitely affected by this news and he's Operating off of it, but it's not a primary story for him right he's on to other things And a lot of it has to do with like, you know Trump is great

We're so great. This is all great sure and I think it leads him to make a little bit of you know you know that moment in a Bond movie where the villain says something a little bit too much Uh, oh, are we are we doing the the speech? Are we giving the the monologue whenever Bond is on the on the chopping block about ready to die and Alex gives up The whole game. I think that this might have shades of that to it This here's our first clip from July 7th. I'll say this and it's not to get heat off my back This is give everybody really good news

We have successfully radicalized the president of the United States CNN's right when they say it's them for his presidency We have successfully radicalized the Pentagon. We have successfully radicalized the CIA I'm not trying to brag. It just happened. We did it. This audience did it Matt drudge amplifying other shows We all of you did it So, I mean whenever you have protestations from Alex about like we aren't some sort of radicalizing force It's difficult to hear stuff like that. Yeah, and be like well I think you kind of are and you know it you literally know what you're doing. Yeah, you think it's good But you know what you're doing when people make accusations that what you're doing you're doing this and it's bad

The only thing you can really dispute is that you don't agree that it's bad, right? You can't disagree that you're radicalizing the president. You just fucking said it Yeah, now whether or not that's true is another matter whether or not this isn't braggadocio, right, right? Well, you know that the word that people usually put after radicalized is Terrorists usually that's how people do that. So he's kind of saying like we turn the president into a terrorist Yeah, no, that's still bad. Well, see Alex has a justification for this terrorism is good well

He has a rationale That is I guess basically a you know sort of radicalization version of like a rubber and glue Chicken and egg something. I don't know how to mix this metaphor correctly, but here he goes You know PR I said to be clear the globalists are radicals. They want open borders world government They want to break up the family. They want a technocracy a worldwide police state Islamic invasions all of this and You can only defeat something that radical by admitting it's radical and taking radical measures against it

So you justify radicalizing the president and the Pentagon and the CIA in your entire audience by your Imagined enemies being super radical. Yeah, I have imagined them to be the worst fucking thing in the world Therefore if I'm the second worst thing in the world, that's better than them. This doesn't work. This is really bad This is incredibly terrible thinking if you accept this line of thinking like it rationalizes pretty much anything you could possibly Think of doing yeah, especially when your justification for it is entirely imaginary, right? You know like there's no unless you're unless your imagination is completely limited to a certain point That basically means you have carte blanche to do whatever you want any time Whenever as long as you can come up with some flimsy rationalization for why the person you're doing this because of is somehow worse

Yeah, that's all you have to do and then okay Let's bomb shit because the people we're doing this to stop are terrible. Absolutely. No, that's that's like hey We of course we have to commit the Holocaust Because the Jews were gonna kill six million and one of us Dan Well, we won. Yeah, I mean, you know, it's it's like there's no there's no bottom Yeah, I mean he does believe that the globalists orchestrated both sides of World War two Why not yeah, so I mean if you wanted to do a world war against the globalists you wouldn't be as bad as the globalist

Right, right because they did their own world war Yeah, so I mean no matter the car. I mean there were nukes involved in that Yeah, yeah, I mean like if so if you nuked the globalists, I wouldn't be uncalled for no, they already nuked people first So in this next clip we get to Alex Clearly indicating that he still believes that Antifa is out there throwing concrete milkshakes of people sure hasn't dropped that narrative No, no, of course not well You gotta keep pounding that one otherwise people will forget that you're supposed to shoot anyone with a milkshake on site Right this takes up a good portion of his coverage is is trying to because the enemy is so radical

We radicalize people and it's a good thing right you must then demonstrate why these people that they're against are super radical And so he talks about Antifa being so terrible out there sure their own concrete milkshakes So many people have died at those rallies, right like So But it's interesting because you know Antifa gets out of control they do all this shit And then the police do nothing about it and Alex knows why They come out and they have people that they've been looking at who they're planning to target and They go out and they physically attack you and the police stand there and watch it happen

Because the police are being blackmailed How are the police being blackmailed all of them remember not this year, but last year We got 30 plus pages of secret documents from an Antifa members brother fortune and his Family member had ended up having major medical issues and things like that and it ended up going away for a while And so he was able to get into his apartment and get these documents that he was a leader of Antifa And it was Alexander Soros funding it real documents, and it was in Maryland and other cities an action plan And one level is you're an actor and

You've got liaisons in the in the blue city police department of the New stands you're gonna attack because they're conservative Yeah, Washington cider Washington Times No, this makes perfect sense so far those are the fake fucking contracts. He found online He's using his justification for his like first of all, I don't understand how that means the police are being blackmailed No, they're being blackmail doesn't really explicitly lay out with that That relates no they had 30 pages of documents and now the police are being blackmailed I don't understand what the again these documents are fucking fake

No one would dignify them with a response. Yeah, I don't think it's in anyone's best interests to deny that these are real That's engaging. Yeah, that's getting mixed up in the tentacles of this bullshit Right, and you can't do that and the police know that and so does Antifa and that's why Antifa is blackmailing the police with the Information that they can't comment on well. I hadn't considered that see I'm fucking stupid. It's incredibly stupid so insanely dumb like Just the idea that there would be contracts. Yeah is stupid Like if you're doing some sort of a criminal enterprise like this like because the idea is you're supposed to trigger riots, right? Like that is what these fake documents are for in Alex's narrative of it the idea that some

legit corporation tied to Alexander Soros would drop fucking contracts that would somehow be binding by an NDA is So stupid. It's so stupid. You have to be like so detached from reality You have to be so far gone to imagine that anyone would do that. Oh, yeah You would just do it without a contract. Jesus. You know when people like have mules and like drug runners Yeah, they all have contracts. They sign a lease. Yeah, absolutely because they're leasing their own Rectal cavities out. Well, and also you gotta you gotta get that under contract contracts because yeah goes wrong that drug dealers gotta pay workman's Comps, absolutely, you know, there are regulations and think about the unemployment insurance thing, right?

You know, you know you sign a contract when you're a rioter You're an acting rioter who knocks over conservative newsstands because if you do your job and then Soros doesn't pay up You need documentation. Absolutely. You could take him to court. Of course to get your pay Stupid is think about it. No, but see think about how efficient that system is though You're in you're already in court for the criminal trial, right for you doing all the crimes You just go across the hallway to the civil court to sue him for the back pay It's it's just it's killing two birds with one stone You got to consider about how this works to directions too because if you're Alexander Soros and you hire some people to start a riot

And they don't start a riot bullshit, right? But if you don't have a contract, you gotta call the cops You can't go break their kneecaps or something like that You need a contract for it to be enforceable that they did not deliver all the work that you had Contracted see now hold on you can go break their kneecaps But you got to hire somebody to do it for you and the contract that you're gonna drop There's twice as complicated as if you just convince those people to commit the right in the first place It's all grows out of like anti-communist bullshit So I assume there's probably some unearthed narrative Alex needs to make about how they only did the contracts because there's union fees or something like that

I have to assume that's coming at some point. This is so fucking stupid. I hate this shit Whenever I hear this stuff, I'm just like, oh god Imagine a person listening to this and back. Well, they did not they didn't end up denying those documents So they must be real like I can't imagine how hopeless you must be how far gone you are from reality Oh, yeah, and Alex capitalizes You would be so far gone from reality Somebody would make you president of the United States. It's crazy So, you know, the Alex is mad at Antifa, right, right, which is cool

Well, they built their airports to too long ago Well, he's also got another complaint about Antifa that I actually think is pretty funny And it falls squarely under that heading of can't use a bullhorn. Well This is another complaint. He has we have one of the Antifa from three different angles goes on for like 10 minutes Can't light a flag with a match He doesn't even know how to use matches and tries to figure that out He didn't even know how to cut his hand over the flag

Strike it and then get it going that way or that he should douse it in lighter fluid before he came out there Like when I burn you in flags ever seen me burn one man, they go up real nice with one lighter Bring a lighter if you're gonna burn an American flag on July 4th. What are we doing here? What are we doing? Hey, he knows how to burn a flag I Is this how we trick conservatives into burning American flags as we just we're just incompetent at it in front of them And they're like for God's sakes. Let me do it for you It triggers that masculine thing where you have to help someone light a grill. Yeah, absolutely. You have to help someone light a grill

Credit where credit to do again though Alex follows this up by being like they have every right to burn a flag You wouldn't expect that to be his position he has to though this one he has to but it's crazy He's a flag burner. He's a hypocrite on so many levels, but I do give him credit for like explicitly saying Yeah, that there isn't anything wrong with them burning the flag right like I think it's disgusting I think it's repulsive. I disagree with it, but they have every right to do it He does sort of imply that they're just trying to trigger people into fighting them, right? I think is a defensible position to have like if you believe that it like You know lighting the flag on fire is trying to bait someone into a fight. You could make that argument

Ah, I mean I suppose it's it's implying intentions on somebody that maybe they don't have But it's certainly much better than it should be illegal. Yeah, so yeah, cool. Yeah, okay I'll give him a little credit for that And if he's that good at burning flags because it really sounds like he knew he knew he knows exactly what he's doing Bullhorns flag burnings Alex. Alex is your guy. Yeah for those it is it is interesting to know exactly what things he really excels at because Reading the news not good drinking whiskey and very good liquors and clear liquors because he likes Tito's from time to time Okay, well flag burning bullhorning, right?

What else? Not not spending time with his kids Seems to be good at that not checking into who he's talking to right seems to be Real good at that. Absolutely and that comes into play and escalating Rex The not checking into his guests thing gets into play comes into play as we get to the 8th on Monday Because while he does bring up Epstein a little bit here and there It's in his standard deflectionary way for the most part or he uses it just as a launch-off point to talk about how everyone That he is against our demonic pedophiles, right? Of course course

There's not really all that much to the actual meat of that story And which is why I feel no compunction about us not really talking about it Alex is mostly interested in someone else on his July 8th episode It's a British guy who's an asshole And he's gonna be making a major announcement The freedom fighter over in the UK Has been imprisoned three times Please solitary confinement lost 40 pounds. It's sort of pointed out. It's Tommy Robinson. Please don't

Just stop tortured Islamists have thrown bleach on his face in the prison and He's marked for death. I've told him next time they're gonna kill him He's been ordered to show up in court next Thursday, and they're told he's gonna be put in solitary confinement For up to a year The crime he exposed giant child kidnapping Sex rings with children being killed and then chopped up into kebab meat

And fed to people on the streets of london and other cities That sounds like a big story. He says it's mainstream news. That's a big story. Yeah, it would be that would be everywhere And it was yeah, it was So this is an amazing display of sloppiness on alex's part This is legitimately almost impressive. How about a job he's doing here? Yeah The story he's talking about is that of charlene downs who was a 14 year old in the uk who went missing in 2003 By 2006 the police began operating off the assumption that she was most likely dead And started investigating the case that way though a body has never been found

Investigators believe that charlene was known to engage in sex acts in an alley behind a row of businesses In the town she's from and the owner of one of these businesses iid al batiki Was arrested for her murder with salacious accusations flying around that there's no body Because they put her into the kebab meat. They sold at their fast food stand. Oh, so it's racist as shit We'll see mohammed ravishi was also arrested on charges of helping dispose of the body In 2007 both men were acquitted because there was no evidence that any of this was true While charlene did appear to be dead And everyone sort of took that as the absolute conclusion

Yeah, um and that shop that he ran was uh near a place where she was known to frequent Um, but the rest of this shit is just gossip and tabloid level shit right right right right in 2008 iid and mohammed were both awarded $250,000 by the police in compensation for the damage that the botched investigation did to their lives Because of rumors like this. Yeah, they raped this young girl and put her into kebab meat Yeah, I imagine that his restaurant didn't uh flourish after that I would think it probably had a little bit of difficulty There's more to this case than is publicly known even right now in 2019

But what is safe to assume is that the story of charlene being killed and served as kebab meat is not true And alex says every reason to know that In 2019 channel 5 made a documentary called the murder of charlene downs that brings up some really troubling details about the case That were not known previously For instance, the documentary reveals that about a week into the police investigation of charlene's disappearance They decided that if they did find her they would not return her to her parents, but instead place her in child protective custody One of the main reasons was uh for that was that on the day charlene went missing Her parents had invited a pedophile into their home who her dad had met while drinking at a pub

The maker of the documentary uncovered a social service report regarding an incident between charlene and this guy Her dad invited to stay with them on the day she went missing But there aren't a ton of details about the nature of that incident So i'm not entirely sure exactly what what happened. Holy fucking shit And this wasn't the first instance of the parents allowing abusers into their home The times reported in 2013 that a 40 year old family friend had admitted to authorities that he had paid her to perform sex acts on him And at least 16 men with criminal convictions for rape assault or violence had been visitors in their home There were tons of warning signs that she was living in a very unsafe household

Obviously, I don't know the details of the case and there are probably few living people who do know exactly what happened What I can say is that just a very small amount of research would have demonstrated to alex that the she was murdered and put into kebab story Is bogus Irresponsible was refuted in a court of law and is still is only still repeated by anti islam agitators who don't care about the truth They don't care about what really happened to victims They only care about using the appearances of these instances to demonize their scapegoat population And that's what tommy robinson has been doing for years One of the main groups that has kept the kebab narrative alive

Far past the point where any self-respecting person would have accepted You know that it was bullshit was the edl the english defense league which tommy robinson found it Of course, they are deeply responsible for this not being Kicked to the dustbin of history as uh, uh, just well the issue is that they're not making it up out of whole cloth Right the the kebab part of it was based on I can't remember the guy's name But it was based on a guy who was like a contractor who said that he overheard Uh ied and mohammed talking about it like we killed her and put her in the kebab Whatever right subsequent investigations have found that he is a unreliable source of information

There's nothing that confirms this or in any way Lends it credibility and they uncovered some Disgruntled business relation between him and the guys who ran this really fast food restaurant. So he Motherfucker there were some indications that he would have a reason to Create salacious rumors about them based on bad prior working relations. God damn it so the edl takes that and Insists that it must be true as opposed to being well There's nothing really to back this up. There's

There's a lot of other information that looks pretty fucked up about this case. Maybe we shouldn't use this Yeah, uh as a banner Yeah to rally around right seems like all we're doing is being Racist as shit that does seem like all they were doing was being racist as shit That's kind of because that is what they were doing Okay, so what they were doing was being racist as shit and that's why it looked like what they were doing Was being racist as shit and it's real. It's a real fucking tragedy. Yeah, because um The reality of this situation seems to be a really

You know terrifying case of child neglect and abuse. Yeah And instead of dealing with it on the merits and on the the information that is available you know, you just Move the guilt over to the party that you want to blame and it's disrespectful to victims It's disrespectful to people who Care Yeah, and that's the name of the game and it's Tommy Robinson and the edl. They don't care They do not care. They're co-opting victims. They do. They care. They care about being cruel to whomever they want

And they'll do whatever it is. They need to to get there. They'll use any justification They'll make shit up. They will fucking do anything and Under the under the radar under the surface like the cruelty towards, you know people In the muslim community, let's say That's very overt and and very visible But just underneath that is a cruelty to people who are survivors of abuse Yeah, because they're co-opting and using their actual victimhood in order to demonize Absolutely the larger muslim population and that's cruel too. Oh, that's fucking insanely cruel

because if you spent any of the time Effort and resources that you put towards Demonizing muslims towards helping victims of abuse like this Uh, maybe People wouldn't you know, maybe you'd keep a few people from getting abused instead of actively hurting people along with diverting Any attention to what really could be fixed, right? xenophobic and ethnic based demagoguery is not the solution to The problems of crimes against children anything right is not the solution to anything

Right, but other than a jeopardy question for what trump is doing But yet it seems to be all tommy robinson does it does so fuck him. Uh-huh. So, um I guess there's one clip of uh stuff about epstein that all play and it's just because like, uh, this is This is insane like the idea that alex is repeating this is insane Trump's been to one party epstein was at and he told roger stone Said I pull up and you're like, isn't it nice? You let all the neighborhood kids swim here And they looked around and he ran out of the house

I don't I don't particularly care to be like, uh, hey categorically. That's not true. Let's look at the other instance Yeah, I don't care. Yeah. Yeah. I only bring this up to be like alex is just repeating shit. Roger told him Yeah, and that is not good. That is not a good source of information. He's not your friend. No So, uh in this next clip alex is uh spiraling out of control talking about how The left are vampires. Are we vampires again? Uh, apparently, okay But the left says We're putting them in cages. We're torturing them. We're the nazis. You are and the truth is They want that fresh meat. They want that fresh blood. They want unidentified children

So they can snuff film them torture them and drink their blood. Now watch it's all coming out. You're gonna see it. They Drain children's blood. They drink children's blood. That's just the blood libel. Yeah I I mean, it's interesting that he's like they say that we put them in cages and we're nazis now. Let me Mirror a big piece of nazi propaganda. That's june. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, hey, dude Calm down. I don't I just think I hate I hate some of this stuff because it's important Like it's really insane The level of stupidity that's on display here around very serious things. Yeah, like, uh, it's irresponsible It's detestable. It leads people into insane stupidity and dumb fucking beliefs that are counterproductive

Um, but it's also boring to me. Like it's really insanely boring and a lot of this is stuff We've covered already like yeah, I would love for this to be an opportunity for us to do a deconstruction of the historical roots of the blood libel, but we did it already, right You know, isn't it? Isn't it ridiculous how far it's gotten? because We're listening to this and we're like Uh, this is kind of old hat He is literally saying that people are drinking fucking blood and he's lying about somebody eating a fucking child

And and and all of this and we're like, uh neck it over it Uh, oh Oh, you're just going out in public to a large audience Lying in an insane way and they believe you and we're over it I mean, it is one of the things that by degrees I think we've become so desensitized to stuff that it's like I think most right thinking people could hear almost any of the clips that we play and be like

Fuck it. This dude is crazy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, of course, of course It is and we're like no it makes a twisted sense if you understand white nationalism and propaganda Oh, it doesn't make a twisted sense. It's like well, here's what he's talking about. Here's the roots of it Yeah, here's why he's saying what he's saying. It doesn't make it Make sense or good it exists in a context. Yeah Um, but it also is is just boy. Yeah, I had somebody Asked me recently They were like, oh, so so you guys don't allow alex to speak his full piece

You know, you cut him out of context and that kind of stuff. Sure. I was like You need to um, okay We can't even begin to describe how much context we have given this man I can't even begin to describe. I mean every there's one of the guiding principles when I started this It was like exactly I was bummed out by how a lot of people don't take him in context because context makes him worse right exactly We are damning him far more than you can imagine. Yeah So not only do liberals, uh drink blood. We do they also want to well, it's particularly liberal women

Oh, oh, they would like to see beautiful things destroyed You see liberal satanic women. Sure They like to see pretty women killed and they like to see little boys killed That's why the average leftist mother puts their child on prozac Ritalin, uh, and they end up trying to institutionalize their boys. It's a satanic demon That that that moonshows and by proxy a lot of things wants to hurt that little boy It's almost like he's talking about an egregore It's almost like he watched something about munchausen by proxy recently baron munchausen

I think so I just think this is insane. Anyway, here's a more shit talk about the liberal So all of you leftist listening you wonder why you have empty cursed lives. You come from cursed bloodlines. Oh And you you think if you get rid of the good you'll suddenly be on top. No, you'll just be even more in the dark There's a something to this that deserves a slight unpacking. I think in as much as You know leftists come from cursed bloodlines. Yeah, it seems like so much of his distinction of who is and is not a Leftist comes down to issues of

race. Yeah There's so much of the sjw stuff as being like an attack on whites Uh in alex's world. It's very difficult to hear him whenever you talk about blood It just you you range you you go far too close to stuff that Look, if you start if you say you come from cursed bloodlines, you're a nazi Full stop done unless that's it unless it's like a sci-fi novel or something like that in another reality, right? Right unless you're a space nazi. I apologize. Yeah Yeah, the full stop if you that sentence is him saying I am admitting I'm a nazi

I really think whenever you talk about bloodlines at all like you're You're in trouble. Yeah, you're already past a point where it's like Are you gonna say something good? Right, right because you're not right. I'm not positive. I've ever heard bloodlines Uh discussed Like here's here's the benign. Here's the best I can think of for a benign bloodline thing. Um Oh, yeah, in my family's history our our bloodline has shown a very patrician nose is a common Archetype. I'm not positive. That's even good. Oh shit. No now. It sounds like I was talking about jews. Shit Yeah, I don't know if you can do this. No, I didn't mean that. I'm under the greek sense

God damn it. Oh now I'm talking about. Oh god. Nope. Actually, there is no way to say bloodline without being racist I feel like it's It's territory. I'm not positive. Anyone can really navigate. Well, I'm out I already dropped out of that marathon. So in this next clip alex You know, you got a lot of you got a lot of things working against him. Uh, you know, you got the world Right reality the world government. You got the leftist Of course antifa out there. You got all the Muslims eating human kebabs, right? Um, oh human kebab does sound like a pretty good band name band name though

No, it doesn't Fair uh, but in this next clip we find out he is another enemy and that is half of all world churches Okay, I'd say half the churches whether they're catholic or Protestant are are chaired by a devout satanist Who carries out satanic rituals daily? You know these churches you can feel it boy. These big mega churches are chaired by devils so I mean I don't I don't know how to look at this other than just like a direct extension of all of his

like destroying and impugning any kind of Um, agreed upon reality, you know, yeah, like anything that gives you a sense of community that isn't connected to his crazy worldview Must be attacked in some way any kind of Popular culture that we all share like we could talk about the uh, the the bachelorette or whatever That is globalist programming. Oh, shit. Well, I guess we won't talk about that I like to go to my church where all my friends aren't sometimes we have like a cookout and uh, you know They form a community around there. There's a devil running that church. Oh shit. Well, my whole support group is gone

Where am I going to turn? Well, I guess maybe I could get involved in local politics. Ah globalists run it. It's agenda 21 Damn it listening to you. Alex has been great for me. Yeah There is nothing that doesn't just like every single thing about his rhetoric in his worldview leads you to isolate from everything except Things that are tacitly or explicitly approved by alex which are almost exclusively bigotry related militia I think he likes the movie independence day

So will smith is probably cool in his in his book, right? Not a fucking chance. Welcome to earth. Come on. That was a great moment I would say he probably thinks he's a globalist. Uh, maybe I alex would probably say that he's A vampire of some sort. Sure. Sure. Is he a Scientologist though? I don't know I remember all the rumors, but it never interested me all that much. I never really looked into it Um, so in this next clip, you know, like they're fucking devils running half of the world's churches Yeah, satanism is everywhere as evidenced by this next clip and also pay attention when alex starts talking about the lube Uh, listen to how his voice alilts. Okay, so fucking condescending. Okay. This is amazing

And it's all in your face the un building was pledged elucifer in new york city go to the chapel and read it on the wall Says this building is dedicated to elucifer The light bringer The lube was dedicated to elucifer by françois mithalon when they opened the new Pink pyramid with six hundred and sixty six pieces of glass This is a satanic revolution we're facing So the uh, the six hundred sixty six pieces of glass is where that real fucking condescending tone came out

Yep, when he's saying something that is not true Oh, look at him doing a thing that he didn't do and i'm just telling you he did Right, you can just remember a few base facts that he read on a conspiracy site that aren't true Um, so the un building isn't dedicated to elucifer one room in the building includes a sculpture that was provided by funding from the luscious trust Now i should come clean and say that the luscious trust It grew out of a company called the lucifer publishing company Okay, but they only kept that name for a couple years and that was like 20 years before the un was even founded Sure sure the people behind the luscious trust were theosophists back in the early 1900s

And as such they had a bit of a new agey approach toward spiritualism The name lucifer publishing company was likely chosen because of the light bringing connotation of lucifer with them this theosophist circles at the time And the name luscious trust was chosen as a replacement because it contains the latin root word meaning light And doesn't evoke images of the devil in people which allowed them to keep the enlightening meaning of their name And avoid people thinking they worship the literal christian devil. Yeah, they probably thought they were doing such a good job At first they were like we're gonna be lucifer and we're gonna do it because lucifer is all about the light bringer and then two years later they're like Oh Right people are really stupid. Yep. Unfortunately. They were wrong about changing their name

People still like alex think that they worship the literal christian. Yeah, they really regret that either way Even if they did the un building isn't dedicated to lucifer This shit about the louvre is just made up to and completely inaccurate alex is just doing a modern day satanic panic here In order to justify being radical against his enemies. All this just serves that exact same Function it's just it's just Justification of radicalization. That's all this is and a destruction of any kind of art period just like Just like a you

It's the louvre. So you're gonna go to the louvre. Yeah, go to the louvre. You're just gonna be fucking walking into satan house Yeah, i know prince wall meet her all. No, it's this wall to wall artwork. It's beautiful Don't you he he loves the renaissance, right? It's a devilry. Oh fair enough So in this next clip alex talks about how trump is the good guy at the border and aoc sucks And then he I think he does a little bit of a racist voice. I'll let you decide. Okay Trump tries to get more funding so we can find out who these kids are And the media and aoc that demon drug addict Cripp keeper

She goes they're drinking out of toilets being mean to them. These are racist kkk Because her bosses are saying you break that border you get us those kids. We're paying top dollar Because they need the satanic power they believe to overthrow america so the child's sacrifice Reportedly is off the charts right now. They're killing kids every five minutes Torturing them pulling their guts out having them beg for mommy They got their engines turned up on full. What are we gonna do about it? I mean, what are you gonna do about it? I think the answer is pretty fucking clear if you actually believe any of that dumb bullshit Yeah, they're like the people who are against trump are killing kids every five minutes and torturing them in order to gain

Spiritual demonic power in order to overthrow the united states Yeah, like he is so close to steven kelly the guy who wants to storm the getty museum Because the satanist alien base underneath it. He is saying the same shit. Yeah Well, that's because it's true Alex jones has entered the territory of the creepiest Scariest dude who i've ever seen on project camelot. Yeah, alex has now reached the point of being like Really fucking close to a guy who i've watched a bunch of his videos and i'm like we can't cover this. It's not funny Right. It's creepy as hell. It's scary. Yeah

Jesus, I I mean guys Just lean into it You want to you want to torture children at the border in order to Disincentivize people to come here. Just say it. We don't need to bother with all this They're trying to become demons and you you're the bad guys You think you're doing it in service of a larger good? I guess but Just admit that you're evil here now. I'll admit this is bad This is an objectively bad thing that they are doing. I agree and they know it

I agree with you there, but I will admit that I don't know everything about the universe and should alexandria casio-cortez go down to the border And then sprout demon wings, right? I'm willing to amend my position. I agree. I agree Now barring Major developments in the case. I believe I will stick with my interpretation. Stay tuned to this space We will keep you updated on whether or not alexandria casio-cortez becomes a demon AOC watch, is she a demon yet? Still no. Okay. We'll we'll we'll we'll check in in another couple hours. Also

Racist or not racist. Oh, that's so racist. Thank you, but I don't know I couldn't hear quite to whom it was being racist. It felt like it drifted a little into tuscany. Yeah, a little italian Yeah, uh, I don't think he's very good at his uh, but also I felt some breakfast at tiffany's there too It was very it was a very racist accent. It was uh clunky and offensive. Yeah That should be that's on his family crest So, um, he gets into the second hour here on the eighth and what alex does is he decides He's just gonna hand over the show to tommy robinson. No, uh, because tommy has something big going on Isn't he in jail yet? Well, he will be soon. Thank god

So tommy robinson is gonna have the floor For the rest of the sour all intro and outro. We're going to break in seven minutes. He sent us a special report video He just compiled. He's about to premiere And this is going to be his Request to the president Well, I'll just let him Say it himself. Uh, tommy, um, you're a hero just so many and and absolutely don't want to see you disappear As they're planning

I know you first just want to give the basic facts to the president Who'll probably have five minutes to just watch this I know we can get it to him and then obviously you're going to give a report to his staff Who can look into the case and see that it's just as bad as stuff that happens in cuba or other authoritarian states And that you and your family absolutely need political emergency asylum I have the us code right here. We'll go over towards the end of the hour But you have the floor my friend and so thank you for joining us So tommy robinson gets an hour on alex's program to beg the president of the united states for asylum

Which is funny. So here in this next clip, uh, tommy just sort of please like begins his case And I have some thoughts My name is tommy robinson. It's not it's steven yaksley lennon Today i'm calling on the help of donald trump his administration and the republican party To grant me and my family political asylum in the united states of america I'm sat here today before you to make my case of political persecution. Go fuck yourself Yeah, we aren't going to listen to tommy robinson. I'm sorry, steven yaksley lennon Uh, I know and his dumb sob story here because he can fuck right off

And I have exactly zero interest in even engaging with his particular brand of bullshit He's made a career of xenophobia native nativist agitating lying about very serious issues and overall just being a criminal shithead And there's nothing in his pattern behavior that would lead you to think that any of his actions are carried out good faith ever For some level of context Last july on a radio show, uh called leading britain's conversation Even nigel farage tried to explain to steve bannon who had expressed support for tommy that quote Everybody hates tommy robinson and even nigel farage said tommy did break the law. Yeah, there's something incredibly hilarious in this plan That uh, he's launching here though

For years tommy has made tons of money by demonizing people who have fled mortal danger in their home countries to seek refugee status in the EU or in the united states and now that he's facing a little bit of jail time for his clearly illegal actions He's begging the president of the united states to intervene and grant him the very same refugee status That he is mocked as being sincere in the case of muslims and non-white peoples in the united kingdom Man, you know what that reminds me of all of these people of people who are like free speech first amendment rights No regulation and then those happen to them and they're like, why isn't the president regulating things for me? Right. Fuck off. That that is the that is something you see Over and over again. So as for why tommy is going to prison. He deserves it

And I feel no sympathy for him The queen's court determined that quote if the court were to condone the live broadcast of these defendants being aggressively confronted as they arrive for court In conjunction with prejudicial commentary and exhortations to engage in harassment It would pose a risk to the wider interests of the justice system which makes sense Yeah, when they said that he was encouraging harassment The court was on pretty solid footing pointing to a part in the live stream where tommy says quote Harass him find him go knock on his door follow him. See where he works. See what he's doing

Yeah, I was gonna joke that Like my first joke was gonna be like, uh, hey go harass those people because yeah That's a very obvious way of saying what it is. They're accusing him of tommy I thought that would be on the nose easiest joke I thought that would be over the top dan It would be two on the nose and it turns out it is Dead on correct. Don't believe that tommy brings up this part of his uh, his commentary when defending himself So fucking stupid what tommy did was not journalism

It was a legitimate breach of the justice system and a call to vigilantism Even beyond that his actions worked against his stated goal He pretends that he was there to cover muslims who were in grooming gangs somehow imagining that his live stream would help the prosecution I guess Without his help the man on trial was sentenced to 12 years in prison But because of tommy's interference that man was almost able to appeal his conviction on the grounds that tommy's live stream And the ensuing protests surrounding it had biased the jury in his case What tommy is doing is a legitimate and sincere threat not only to the larger muslim community in the united kingdom

But also to prosecutors who are trying to deal with the very issue tommy professes to care so much about Like legitimately he endangered the prosecution of that case He brought a camera into the courtroom, which is explicitly not allowed Primarily because you can use the footage you captured for intimidation purposes You know to encourage the harassment of people like judges or juries or council members There's a very good reason to not allow cameras in court and tommy knowingly broke that law because of his overwhelming need for attention And his pathological hatred of muslims He received a suspended sentence for that

So he would only be punished in any way if he reoffended well still under that suspended sentence and reoffend He did he was given every chance not to be in the situation He's in now the uk courts tried to save him from himself as we saw with the lion of london bridge case as well Yep, I have zero sympathy for him being held responsible for his actions No, and he's so this is one of those situations where You know when you're when you're talking about prison reform, you know, is it about rehabilitation? Is it about punishment? Retribution like what is what is the purpose behind the prison? Yeah, and in his case I feel like prison is the wrong place for him. I agree what he needs is exile

I kick him out of the deport him. I revoke his uk citizenship status I don't know how that would help necessarily. I think it would probably lead to him Using that as his next narrative. Of course, but like, yeah I mean I was as I was listening to this and sort of thinking about it. I was reflecting on it like yeah I don't love incarceration Generally, I don't I don't know what the right answer is for a punishment for something like this Yeah, I don't know how you deal with someone like him, especially someone who has a Decades decade and a half long career. He's not gonna reform street agitator like with the edl and the like the brawling

based political activity. Yeah, um the uh, the the the career of xenophobia and uh, agitation I do not think that he would be receptive to any kind of rehabilitative Intervention, absolutely. So does that How does that square with my feeling that I don't think that people Generally should be in prison, right? I think they I guess the only real Punishment for these guys would be removing their ability to like their platform should be completely You know like like with jim baker jim baker

Spent his entire career scamming people out of money right and then he went to jail And then when he got out he reformed himself and started scamming people out of money again Right, but just with the lesson learned of where the line is exactly exactly. It's like, uh, it's like It's like the quote from blow or whatever. I went in to jail with a and then I went out with a you know Yeah, the scamming isn't uh a problem for most people. It's the fraud It's the part where you actually committed a like out and out fraud that got you sent sent to prison Um, and but that's not even how tommy would respond to this Like he's not going to go in for whatever sentence he's going to get and come out with like, all right

I've learned where the line is. Yeah, he's going to push it even farther whenever he gets out like well when it gets out if uh, the No deal brexit has gone through Maybe he will have a a government that's willing to just say do whatever you want. I I don't have any Real feeling about that like other outs I would love to see a uh overhaul of the incarceration state. I would love to see that I'm not here to tell britain that it needs to do that. Yeah, I their sovereign country They have their laws that can that operate however they operate. Yeah, the first amendment

I would say that uh as long As long as the prison is is where people like are sentenced to for what he did I'm not I I'm not going to go to bat for him on this. No as long as he's not being held in like solitary confinement or being targeted specifically for violent attacks I don't really I'm not going to cry a tear for his plight. Yeah, I want him to be safe and warm and as far away from uh damage As far away from the possibility for him to do damage as he can Yeah, I mean I would sum it up to say like as long as he's not

Being like harmed as long as he's not in solitary confinement If he has to spend two years in prison, and that's the only consequence for all the damage He's done in his career. He's getting off really easy really easily Um And it just goes to show like this is the natural consequence for his intentional actions And when the chickens come home to roost, what do you do? You beg trump And if there's one thing if there's one thing if anybody listens to the show and they take away one thing it is

Do not ever give these guys even the slightest benefit of the doubt if you're gonna sue them Sue them and go all the way right don't hum. Do you look high and ask for a goddamn apology? Destroy these guys if you can I really hate this I hate this shit and it's most of the show It's legit most of the show. Well. They gave him a whole fucking hour I had to fast forward through a good bit of it because it's just tommy robinson rambling on and misrepresenting his case Yeah, which is completely different from what we're used to on info wars. Yeah Well, I mean I have much less patience for tommy. Oh, of course for alex At least alex is the target of my interest. Yeah, you know, like i'm in even if he's talking shit for an hour

And it's boring there might be something in there that's like, huh? That's an interesting thought and it gives me a greater context to what alex believes I don't give a fuck what tommy believes No, there's there's nothing that he could say in the course of this hour that will interest me. No, no He can say whatever he would like to behind bars. So alex has a plan sort of to get around this Sure, and here's what it is presidential party. Hell if you get to the u.s. You can have a show right here You know, we'll get you a work visa I know because of your prior convictions of the other fake stuff for journalism

It's even hard for you to get a visa to the u.s. Well, hell the liberals do it Is uh prior convictions weren't for journalism and they weren't fake. Are you sure? Yeah, there was that one time he assaulted a cop journalism His girlfriend who was with him had cocaine on her right right journalism He was doing a story about how his girlfriend had some cocaine and he wanted to try it I believe he got in trouble for having a fake passport and uh mortgage fraud Yeah, well that was a story about how he wanted to commit mortgage fraud. He's a career fucking criminal It's creative nonfiction. Right all the times he's gotten arrested for brawling. Yeah, he is he is a

No, he's a giant piece of shit. Yeah, he really is uniform like Uniformly if you any right thinking person Would know that he's a piece of shit and it's an easy way to tell if somebody is or is not right thinking Is whether or not they think he is a piece of shit. Yeah, that's a pretty good sort of um A good just general personality test. Yeah, I was like you like time for Robinson. Yep. Gotta go gotta go You believe that ship? Yeah, gotta go um, so

I don't Care at all That I can't stress this enough. I don't care. I don't care Tommy Robinson deserves to go to prison If by some like way the police decide to give him another shot or whatever the courts decide like All right, we're gonna give you another suspended sentence. I also don't care about that I'm not invested in him going to prison. Like I would love for him to stop being a shithead. Yeah, that's what I would like I don't think prison's going to solve that problem. I don't think him not going to prison is gonna solve that problem

He's going to be a problem no matter what It doesn't matter like he's he's a propagandist with bad faith bad will he just is a Fucking dick. Yeah, I wish he'd have Saul on the road to Tars's type moment where he realizes. Oh god, right this whole career of mine What have I brought into the world? I'm an asshole. Right, but he never will no So I don't care when Alex is having him I mean, I would certainly probably care a little bit if Trump ends up giving him political asylum I don't think that's going to happen. I doubt it. But should that development happen

I think I would start to get a little bit more interested in this. Yeah, but for now it's just I don't give a shit god that would be wild that would be I do you know how ridiculous that would be? I mean, it's the international version of pardoning arpaio Exactly. Yeah, and it's but you get like really it's an internet. It's an international incident waiting to happen When even fucking forage doesn't like tommy robinson Yeah, that's why that's why tommy robinson could start getting more involved with u-kip once forage started the Brexit the Brexit party the two of them are not in in lockstep with each other Which is wild to think the uk bigot community it contains multitudes even people who don't like each other

Well, it's like a you know, there are 15 different accents in london alone, you know, yeah, none of them get alone So I don't care. I don't care. Okay. Do you care damn? No, okay I don't give a shit Um But it's interesting to me that alex cares so much. Yeah, that is interesting. It's not really I only am doing this to set up a clip Um alex cares so much that he allows tommy to take over his show for an hour

But he doesn't care that much because he's got another guest coming up The jury has to be discharged. The journey tommy. Here's what's happening. Here's what's happening. I've got carpet dunked them on This is incredibly important. You've still got 10 pages of evidence here ready He's cutting them off. He's cutting them off. Dunked them was coming on because who I don't fucking know Carpe dunked in carpe dunked them Carpe dunked him. He's a guy who makes memes. I don't fucking know. Oh, no. Yeah. Oh, no Yeah, so it's probably if there's it's a latin phrase, isn't it? Well, I mean it means seize the dunk or something like that I don't know. Yeah. Yeah

Listen see the seize the dunk. There are there are things in my life where I'm like Yeah, let me stay up till three in the morning researching leo zegami. How about carpe dunked him couldn't care less But he's a huge get he's kicking tommy robinson off his show Because he's got carpe dunked him. Here's what I know about carpe dunked him He makes memes. He apparently won an infowars meme competition Um and trump retweeted that meme So so he's he's pretty much royalty. Yeah in this world in this world He's pretty much won in this world of shithead. Yeah, and apparently I don't know how much veracity there is to this

But because the world is so Stupid. Yeah, I'd believe anything surreal. Trump is holding like a free speech internet Forum at the end of this week. Yeah, and apparently carpe dunked him is one of the people who he invited Of course to this social media free speech. Of course Meeting of the minds. I don't care if that's true or not because the bigger issue is it makes so much sense It could be true. Yeah, that's a world that we are living in. Yeah. Yeah This is the dumbest. I sound like a broken record, but I don't care

What does he got to say? Not a lot Does he have a new Does he have a meme to drop is this like a is this like when a kanya goes on a talk show? He's like, I got a new album to talk about. No, he's got he doesn't have any Following anything. He also is apparently thinking about starting a website I heard that and I'm like, why don't you have a fucking website already? That's insane Why don't you have a die. Yeah, just kill us. How bad are you at your fucking scam that you're running?

Come on meteor any moment now. He has a patreon too Isn't that many donators What are we doing? I don't understand. I don't I I really am always surprised when I see people who are in this scam world Who aren't doing a good job monetizing their scam? Yeah, I know Like I don't understand if they're people who think that there's sincerity involved and like don't think they get that they're scamming I don't know. I don't know. I think it probably maybe comes down to ambivalence Maybe not knowing exactly the the steps you're supposed to take um

But like or maybe I'm just not looking in the right places Maybe like a lot of that money is coming in somewhere else Like maybe he has a subscribe star account that has a ton more donors and I just looked at the patreon and it doesn't have Many I don't know whatever the case is who gives a shit. I don't care I don't fucking care about a meme guy coming on alex's show Most of it is about alex being like Hey, we didn't get invited to the social media thing and look where I'm at about it We're not mad about it. We got fucking carpe doctor. He's a friend of ours. He's gonna be there

There's kind of a passive aggressive thing going on. Yeah, it's not super Uh extreme like it sometimes is with alex. Yeah, it's not as it's not as overt pettiness No, but it's it's still you can feel it still there is like a um Trying to make right the fact that they didn't get invited right it's uh Whatever it is. It's fucking lame and I I don't I sound like a fucking broken record, but I don't care at all. Yeah, I don't I don't care

I know so he's talking to carpe doctor. I don't even like you saying those words. I don't either I don't I I don't care enough about him to know it is real names Don't give a shit so he's talking to my man dunks and uh In the middle of that conversation alex brings back up tommy robinson's plight in order to make the situation seem so much more severe than it is I mean, there's just I mean all my camera crew is so freaked out about the tommy robinson thing We can all watch the video. He's outside politely asking people the press is allowed to do that in the uk So they are here and then they've put him here put him in prison. I mean, we're all in danger brother

He has created a false version of what tommy is getting in trouble for to present to the audience to make it appear that Just because he dared point out Muslims are committing crimes and he politely asked about it like a journalist does sure Uh, any of us could be any of us now any of us could be at risk a carpe donk tom Yeah, it's insane. Man. You are gonna be so pissed off next year when you find out that in the late 80s He was a dj in the italian scene. I'm willing. I don't think he's old enough and his best friend was leo young I I don't think carpe donk tom is old enough To fit that mold and I just

I'll be more disappointed when uh, pence drops out and it's trump donk tom 2020 Then I'll look the fool That's it god. I wish that that were far less believable. I wish that that were so out there I could never ever understand it But I swear to god if donald trump just chooses a meme as his running bait Not even not even carpe donk tom himself right just one of the memes He's just gonna hold up a meme next to him while he's giving speeches

Yeah, that that would make as much sense as any fucking thing else. Yeah, sure So in this next clip, uh, uh, alex talks and this is the last clip we have because he just talks to carpe donk tom more I can't do it. Yeah, so This just uh, I don't know how to set up this clip, but it just really confused me Trump needs people like you on his staff to help produce memes for him directly that are from the president So they don't dare touch them and they have that that imperial glow to them that we need Is you're a smart cookie and there's a lot of inside baseball we can't get into but I agree with your analysis and the fact that the president said obviously he wants to meet with you some more

And what that means is that trump is preparing To kind of look at the army and and figure out and talk to you guys about what should be done. There'll be breakaway meetings Uh, and it'll also be a test to see who talks about what who can meet, you know, who's an operative Right. Trump's learned about infiltration. Yeah, so he's having these people come to the white house As if it's some sort of willy wonka-esque, uh, let's find the snitch game. Yeah, that's fucking weird What is happening and alex is like the military is gonna be involved in breakaway meet What are you talking about this guy makes memes? So if I understand correctly I think what he's saying to start with is that trump is inviting these people

In order to create some sort of ministry of propaganda essentially, right, right? So that's why these people are coming here. That's taken as red. Of course. Yeah now in the middle of that This is also a test of loyalty. Well slugworth will show up and make a globalist meme in the middle Right, right, right, right. And uh, and uh, I suppose if you make the wrong meme, that's like fizzy lifting drink Right, and well and oh that a bunch of little mini steven millers will show up and sing a song Ooh, that would be somehow more racist than the already racist river Far more racist depiction I

Cannot handle the present day. We live in the dumbest timeline. Yeah You ever try and wrap your head around it. I I I've stopped I've just decided I can't wrap my head around the world that That we live in no man. It's uh, it's that uh, when the going uh turns weird the weird turn pro at uh, hunter s. Thompson Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah It's like you just kind of gotta lean into it. I guess I suppose Try and retain some semblance of sanity. Well also like I mean, where are we how how How far away from home are we? Without even realizing the steps we took away. Yeah, like it's crazy every time I walk outside. I hear that

But in the minor key so it sounds fucking uh ominous like Every day every day I walk outside and hear that so you're saying it's clown world It's clown world dan. You know, that's an anti-semitic meme We talked about it on the show. Oh, yeah Shit, but that's not fair. No, it's not everything is everything is an anti-semitic meme now I mean, that's what uh, you know fascists and authoritarians do generally. It's like hitler co-opting the uh, the solistica. Yeah Uh, yeah, it's uh, it's part of how these things infect areas of life and co-op them towards their side The okay sign is another example of that. That's just it's a it's a strategy of uh

Mild psychological warfare. Yeah, I guess. Yeah, um, I hate these people So, I mean we come to the end of this and uh, I mean, I think I would I would assume that people listening probably felt this But uh, I I have completely run out of steam. I've run out of interest in uh, this bullshit Not alex, but like the like This present Is much more like the present than uh, maybe how much fun it was to the look into leo's gammy Yeah, like this is just this is indicative of the experience of this like you go in um

And you kind you kind of expect it's going to be awful, you know, because with epstein getting arrested You kind of think that there's going to be an awfulness to it You kind of think you know what the version of awfulness it's going to be is and you you you suit up and you prepare You're like, all right, this is I'm not I don't want to do this But here we go and what you find instead is largely alex just retreading territory that we've covered 100 times on this show You know, we've covered the blood libel stuff. We've covered his dumb satanic panic nonsense. We've covered Tommy Robinson and his history it's not like

There isn't there isn't a whole lot the It's like climbing a rock and you just find like Oh, there's nothing to grab here. Yeah. Oh, well. Yeah, we we got to the top of the of the mountain and then and then is like So we just go back down. Do you is there something up here? Was there just satisfaction the just the satisfaction of having done it? Boo. Yeah, ultimately. It's like a prize, please. Yeah, ultimately. It's disappointing and I mean it's alex's fault. Yeah It's not on you or me Although this does seem to be something of a pattern for him is when there is something where you're like, oh, he's gotta have He's gotta have some awful take on this thing. Yeah, and he winds up. He does but then at the same time

It's almost like he punts a little bit where he's like, I'm barely gonna talk about this. This is awful I think actually everybody already knows what I'm gonna say about this bullshit. Right. I think you do. Yeah, of course Yeah, this is like, hey, Trump's not involved. It's all clinton. Yes. Yeah, but nail it lock her up Let's call it a day. I mean he's talked about it plenty in the past Epstein stuff and the the plane and the island Like, you know, uh, that he doesn't need to cover it when it breaks, right? Instead you use it as a jump off point for something else Which is demonizing your opponents

Justifying the radicalization against them and then parlaying that somehow into Uh, we got to save Tommy Robinson for uh from the consequences of his own actions Like I think that if you look at it it really It feels like alex is uh more interested in using whatever current events Type coverage he has in order to I think he's more interested in funneling that towards tommy. Yeah, tommy is he's more interested in that than uh Then uh, Epstein

But as the oh, oh, oh, oh, oh theory theory theory. All right, pjdubs Technically is leaving maybe or has already left who knows but when he does go Alex is looking for a tommy robbs to take over no because he's already got dan lyman doing europe wars. Oh really? Uh, so he already has that offshoot and I don't think alex could afford tommy I don't know how desperate tommy robinson is but I mean he's had He's like he worked for rebel media like yeah, I think that he probably would need more than alex compare That's probably true. And I think that if tommy doesn't leave the uk. He's going to get arrested again Uh, I don't think that's an alex's best interests to have him as an employee because I mean tommy would constantly be asking for help

Well, that's what alex is saying. He wants tommy to come to the states. Right. That's the whole idea Oh, you don't mean someone in england just someone who is british exactly I think he could find someone else because I will tell you this right now I guarantee that is how alex thinks he is like I am losing a british person who talks like that I need to replace him with another british person. I mean sure I guarantee it. I think that there are less baggage having people who have an accent that alex could Uh slot into that role right like pierce morgan. Sure Oh, what a what a what a clue that would be if you could swing pierce

I know I know I'm a broken record. I just don't care I I care about the misinformation and the misrepresentation of stuff. I absolutely do. I care about the corrosive influence Um, but this isn't very interesting alex is phoning it in uh quite a bit. Yep, and uh, I don't know It's I resent it a little because it wastes of my time. Yeah It's much better uses of my time than the last couple days of his show. It's been shit So

Oh, man. Anyway, um, until next time This has been our show which uh, you know, it is what it is Um, we'll be back on friday though with another episode, but until then we have a website We do have a website. It's knowledge fight.com. Right. So we're also on twitter We are at knowledge underscore fight and at go to bed jordan. We're also on facebook We are and if you wanted to download our podcast, which you should do and you could probably tell somebody else But you can go to itens. Yeah, uh, you can go to a direct libson feed. Um, you can Uh, there are corner bodegas that will

Uh charge you a five dollars extra to get it, but they will give it to you under the table I promise you that so you can do that there. Um, nature hikes. Those are fun. Yeah So AOC Still not a demon still not a demon and oh technically has not killed anybody Oh, that's true. One guy who technically probably has is alex jones Andy and chanzas you're on the air. Thanks for holding So alex i'm a first name caller i'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you