Knowledge Fight - #321: February 24-26, 2013

Episode Date: July 15, 2019

Today, Dan and Jordan take a look at a stretch of days from Alex Jones' past in their investigation into what he did in the weeks after Sandy Hook. In this installment, the gents see subtle clues that bad decisions may be coming, learn that Mike Adams thinks he's funny, and find Alex's first interview with the horrible Michael Savage.

Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. So Alex, I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you. Hey, everybody. Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. Workable dudes like to sit around, drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Indeed, we are. Yeah. Drawing this intro out. Right. I'm trying to slow down the speed. Yeah. You came in with a head of steam about how much you loved Wimbledon. I don't want to. I don't want you to just steamroll with me with a bunch of,

oh my God, better or so great. But yeah, it's a slow one. Okay. All right. All right. How are you doing? I'm doing good. Dan. Yeah. Dan. What's up? Have you ever told somebody to go back to where they came from? Oh, I mean, I know, I know why you're asking me that question. Certainly relevant here on this Sunday as we record. No kidding. I don't know. I don't think so. I probably, I'm sure I have. Yeah. But like in a joking manner.

Well, and I was a kid once. I was a shithead stupid kid. So I bet it, well, I hope I pray, but it wasn't like racially or ethnically based. Yeah. Yeah. But I probably told someone to like go back to their home state or something. Right. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We're Missourians. That kind of thing. Some sort of Midwestern pride. Right. I imagine I had if at some point, but nothing sticks out to me.

Exactly. I don't think I remember witnessing it almost on a nonstop basis. When I was growing up in a small town, Princeton, Illinois. And I don't think I've ever actually, I think I may have. No, I don't think I've ever said it in, in, in really anyway. Not even jokingly. Jokingly, I've totally said it. Sure. But that's in a completely different context. You've never, you didn't even get caught up in the love it or leave it kind

of momentum back in the early 2000s. You don't love America. Get out. No, my family. See, that was the whole thing. My family was all into that. Right. And so my, my act of rebellion was like just not being a racist. That's a good way to rebel. Yeah, right? Unfortunately, that means that your child will be violently racist.

Can't have a generation. Can't have them. So no, I don't know. I've never told anyone to get out. Oh, God. But some, but yeah, there's a podcast right now a lot about Alex Jones. And I only know what you tell me about Alex Jones. That is right, Jordan. Today we got a really interesting stretch of episodes to go over from the past.

We're in 2013. Because I'm sticking around 2013. I like it. I smell something very serious going on here in this late February stretch. The rock was still cooking in 2013, I believe. I think he'd gone on to movies at that point. I don't think he was still considering his heyday was like the late 90s. Don't think he's well, but to be fair, he did come back and fight

Sina a couple of times in WrestleMania. Yeah, he's always kicking around. But he certainly was a feel like marquee guy in 2013. He was starring in the Scorpion King. I believe I do fuck. I wish I remembered exactly what I think Sina and the Rock did fight at WrestleMania 2013 where that fight between Tea Party, Jack Swagger and Alberto Del Rio for the championship did not main event.

Really? No, I think it was like the third to last match on the show. Ouch. Yeah, they don't really care about their belts. Yeah, they are kind of imaginary. Whenever there's star power. Mm hmm. Why are we doing this?

I don't know. Why are we talking about this? We're back in 2013. I do believe sincerely that something is really big going on. And I think you get a sense from it from Alex's feelings of like I need to mix the show up and then there's some indications that we're going to see on this show that I think we're getting into something. But before we get to today's episode, I got to take a moment to say a very

sincere thank you to everybody. When we talked about how I was going to move, I needed to move. A lot of people sent very supportive messages. Some people have very generously sent little donations and I really appreciated very much. It means a lot, particularly the people who are saying, you know, like I went through a similar situation and you got to, you know, you got to keep your head up and things will be better on the other side.

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We would appreciate it. We love it. So, Jordan. Yes. Today, what we're doing is we are going over February 24th through 26th, 2013. All right. This is a very exciting period of time.

Alex is really fucking all over the place in terms of how desperately he wants more people to pay attention to him. Right. He goes on some other people's shows. He has some big guests, all very clearly, as he expresses, in interest of, like, really get the word out here. Right, right, right, right. But here, before we get into any of that,

is an out of context drop from today's show. No, my religion is facts and being informed and not being an idiot, not being a sucker. Get that through your P-brain. Get that through your P-brain. That's a good religion. His religion is facts. His religion includes calling you a P-brain.

You dumb P-brain. That's a fact. You are a P-brain. That's fair. That's fair. So we start here on the 24th of February, 2013. And Alex gets, I included this clip. It's not really relevant to a ton of stuff,

but it is an interesting expression of Alex's beliefs about how the system has already attacked black people. So we don't need to do anything about that. They've already attacked. I'm sorry, do what? It's implied that he's sort of minimizing the need to defend minorities because they've already been attacked by the globalists.

It's already been done. Right. Can't undo it. Which is weird. Yeah. And then second, I think this clip, you get a sense that Alex uses white and Western culture kind of interchangeably, which is an important thing

to nail down as he tries to pretend all the time that they don't mean the same thing. So we're going to describe where that whole system's going. Because the system's already demonized blacks and others and already basically sold the culture on treating them like they're all criminals. So now they're just going to move on to the main enchilada, the dwindling, dead, dying Western culture.

And the system believes it's now time to bring that down entirely. So you have the quote unquote blacks and others who they have demonized and ruined their culture. And now they're going to move on to the other, which is Western culture, which is presented in direct opposition to blacks and the others. Yeah, it kind of seems like it narrows people down.

Kind of clear what's going on here. So I found that to be interesting, but kind of secondary to what else is going on on this show. Because Alex, towards the beginning of the episode, makes an amazing announcement that I think means we are getting close to hit and pay dirt. And here is his announcement. I will tell you, I've got some big surprises coming up

this week on the weekday show. In fact, 95% chance we're going to break some news this week that'll be one of the biggest stories in the country. I mean, I got the fish up the boat with the net about to get. I mean, it's a big national news story, investigative report, behind the scenes, hidden cameras, you name it. And I'm not holding my breath on it, though, because I notice if you do that, it jinxes it.

And it's dangerous, too. And so that fish breaks the line. I won't be too sad. But if I get it in the boat, we're going to display it here on air. Just know that. Just know that. OK, I got you.

All right. So Alex has a massive game-changing story that he is going to. And I'll tell you. You already know what it is? Nope. Oh, you don't? No.

OK. I've listened to a bunch of this, and I have no idea what it is. I have a theory. OK. I think it's Sandy Hook. You think so? Yeah.

I was trying to think of that. But then he said hidden cameras. And I was like, why? What? He could just be embellishing. That sounds right. That's also entirely possible. Or he could just be fishing, like actually fishing.

Literally, he's talking about fishing. Yeah, that metaphor went on for a while. Yeah. So whatever the case is there, I'm not entirely sure. And I haven't listened too far enough past this to know what his big news story is. Just context clues kind of lead me to think that maybe he's got a little bit of a bird whispering

in his ear some bad stuff. So in this next clip, Alex brings up a quote about the UN wanting to take people's guns. And you know, Jordan, I love a quote on Alex Jordan. Is it Thomas Jefferson? It's not Thomas Jefferson. It's supposed to be from the UN. And here's how it goes.

And we'll play some of those clips. So people are going to be like, well, we already know this, Alex. Well, here's the deal. Here's the deal. The general public doesn't know that. They think Obama really wants to save kids at that school and was really crying.

They don't know they've done this worldwide and taken the guns to enslave people. They don't know that the UN treaty says it's so the state is all powerful. Quote, the civilian ownership of firearms threatens the legitimate power monopoly of the state. Therefore, there must be a total abolition worldwide of individuals outside of government having

any type of firearm. I mean, it's July 7, 2001, Unidear UN website. So that's a completely made up quote. Yeah, that sounds right. Which doesn't appear at all in either the arms trade treaty nor from the report from the July 2001 UN report. There was titled illicit trade in small arms. Those two things are something that Alex

doesn't know the difference between. Or he intentionally consistently conflates, most likely on purpose, to make it harder for his listeners to check in on the things he's lying about. So on one hand, you have the arms trade treaty, which he's saying that's where this quote came from. And then you have the July 2001 illicit trade in small arms report, which is he uses the date from that

and attaches it to the treaty, completely different things. So this quote is definitely not from either of those UN publications. When I looked into it more, many websites traced the quote back to a 2004 debate that was held at King's College in London between then executive vice president of the NRA, Wayne LaPierre and Rebecca Peters, the head of the International Action Network on Small Arms.

While IANSA was a lobbying group that was active in making arguments to the UN, they're not part of the UN or an official body within the UN. Wayne LaPierre himself has lobbied the UN on behalf of the NRA, so you can make the argument that the two of them are on equal footing in terms of being representatives of the UN. None of the conspiracy and right wing websites

can get their citation right on this quote. Ron Paul Forums suggests that it's from the Arms Trade Treaty itself. Gun message boards frequently cited as being said by a representative from the UN at King's College, but they don't seem to agree on the date. Some say that it's July 2001, most likely because they've mixed it up with the illicit trade in small arms report.

Others say the debate was held in 1993, most likely to associate it with the passage of the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act of that year. One website I found called Liberty Minute claimed that the debate happened in 1993, while simultaneously linking to a video of the debate from 2004. That is fucking five stars, guys.

That is gold level stuff right there. It's so sloppy, but it also really feels like they're trying to confuse people about the genesis of this quote intentionally. No one gets the citation right because they want the argument to be that the UN said in an official capacity that they wanted to get rid of guns because it threatens the full control of the state.

The quote is a whole lot less useful if it were appropriately cited as being said by a lobbyist in a debate against the head of the NRA. That's not nearly as nefarious or scary as the UN said they're gonna do this. Of course. Which is why you gotta lie. But there's another problem about this.

There's this debate, the great UN gun debate. It's 90 minutes long and I watched it twice in preparation for this episode. Nobody said it. I just missed it both times, but I never heard Rebecca Peters say anything about civilian gun ownership being a threat to the power monopoly of the state.

That sentiment in the quote is actually kind of out of step with Rebecca's argument. However, it's very in line with the accusations that Wayne LaPierre makes about what Rebecca's positions secretly are. There we are. But it doesn't match up with what she's actually saying. Okay, so we're dealing with a quote

that is being attributed to the UN. Right. That is actually supposed to be from a debate by two lobbyists, but actually wasn't said by the person that it's attributed to. It doesn't appear it was. But it lines up with what the other person was lying about that other person saying.

It appears that way. Okay, great. I see literally zero evidence that this is a real quote from the UN or even from Rebecca Peters in her debate with Wayne LaPierre. This in my best estimation is something that was fabricated out of whole cloth sometime after the 2004 debate to preemptively attack the coming small arms treaty

and the UN creating rules about the illicit small arms trade. From there, it was circulated in right wing militia type internet communities and given elevation and credibility by being amplified by people like Alex Jones and attached to figures like Ron Paul. It's all a lie as far as I can tell. That is not fun. No, also interesting note in that debate,

Wayne LaPierre cannot stop accusing Rebecca Peters and her organization of being funded by internationalists like George Soros. Great, great. Good work. In 2004, Wayne is way ahead of the curve on the Soros bashing, at least for non-European fascists he is.

Yeah, we. Cause that's usually who you hear talking about Soros back then. Wow. Yeah, we didn't even deal with Alex talking about Soros for what, 11 years after that? No, and I mean like what was it 2011 I believe was when Glenn Beck got in a bunch of hot water

for doing his puppet master segment. What an idiot. And then I think it was the other real big notable one was Bill O'Reilly did some shit about Soros, but that was three years after this. Yeah. It was 2007. Jeez.

So yeah, Wayne LaPierre is pretty ahead of the curve in the. Right, or he's just a regular old fascist. Who knows? But I mean, it was mostly European ones. Right, right, right. So Wayne LaPierre is pretty ahead of the curve for Americans. So Alex, he's got a big, big thing going on.

I mentioned on our last episode that he has a story about how all the veterans are getting letters that they need to turn in their guns. Right. And all these veterans call in like, I haven't got any letter, but it's probably just in the mailbox. Sure, whatever.

Alex tells a story about going to this ammo shop called the Academy, I believe is the name of it. Okay. And some guy, he overheard some guy saying he got the letter. So fuck off. So it's been. Fuck you. So it's been proven.

No, no, no, no. It does not count. No, it's proven. Shut up. It's been proven. Did you know that three people passed the Fed into existence? I heard an old guy who's related to Ron Paul say that.

It has been proven. It's been proven. So fuck that noise. Yeah, fuck you. You can't even do that. The better part of the story, though, is when he's at this ammo shop, man, everyone treats him like a hero.

And I'm not bragging about the show. It's just getting amazing when everyone, but one guy behind the counter who seemed pretty freaked out that, I mean, I started talking to him saying, can I see that shotgun? He was like, oh, oh, oh. It was really weird.

I was like, oh, never mind. This guy was speechless in my presence. But that went on today. At Academy. And then a manager came over and said he was a listener as I was leaving. But that's not the big news. The point is people are talking

about the gun confiscation move. And so the government wants to leave it ambiguous. Like, is it happening? Is that the goal? The point is you could probably argue some gun restrictions to, you know, for people to be safer, hypothetically. If they didn't really want to just take our guns.

See, the issue is they want to confiscate them. We were so close. So they're disingenuous. That's why no more gun laws repeal the ones that are there. They only affect law abiding citizens. So I gotta say, like, this is why there's value in Alex's. Like, just automatically be defensive about everything. Just fight.

It doesn't matter because he recognizes that there's good arguments for safety measures. No, it makes perfect sense for everybody to have some sort of gun control, but they're not going to use it appropriately. So no gun controls whatsoever. I am secretly certain that they're doing this for a reason that is other than what they're saying.

Right. Therefore, boy. That is a dangerous level of pretending you're a psychic. Yeah. Because, I mean, when I hear that, all I really hear is I recognize that there's some really good arguments against my position. And I know that I'm going to lose those arguments

if I actually have them. So I better just yell at people. That's just what you hear there. Alex is recognizing that there are good arguments for gun regulations for safety. It's, I do. Fuck him. I do like that.

I do like the balls on that of just like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, no, no. There are good arguments, but it is 100% impossible for the other side to make any argument in good faith. They are always lying. So I am far happier with zero gun laws

and mass shootings happening every day than I am with anyone even being like, we should do a background check. Lame. That's not good. So that is pretty disappointing stuff, I would say. But not quite as disappointing as the narrative that takes over the show after this point.

There's been a Department of Justice memo that got leaked by the NRA, as I recall, is the telling of it. And Alex insists that this fucking memo is literal proof that they are ready and about to ban all guns. Let's see this one. So it's amazing. Now, if you just joined us,

let me just read these headlines to you and then get to these audio and video clips for everybody out there to back up what I'm saying. DOJ memo outlaw and confiscate all firearms. When you read the memo, it says, look, assault weapons aren't what are causing the problem. It's guns period and it's time to have a forced buyback of everything.

And it describes how they did it in Australia up at infowars.com right now. Oh my God. So one of Alex's big narratives here, like I said, is that the NRA released this memo. That proves that they're getting ready. Proves it all. They plan to confiscate all guns.

True. It's a load of bullshit. No. The memo in question is called, quote, summary of select firearm violence prevention strategies. And nowhere in the document does it call for confiscating anyone's guns. This is a descriptive report, not a prescriptive one.

It's not arguing for any particular strategy. Rather, it's looking at various strategies that have been employed or could be employed, engaging how they worked, what the strong points were, and what the limitations are. For instance, in the part of the report about gun buybacks, it specifically points out that gun buybacks aren't really effective unless they're, quote,

massive and coupled with a ban. That doesn't mean that that's what should be done. It's just descriptively saying that when buybacks have been done, they historically haven't really brought in many guns. And the guns that are brought back aren't the ones that are at a high risk of being used in violent crimes.

Right. So what it was is they described something so well as a, hey, I get that people are saying, do gun buybacks, but there's no point unless we go all the way. More or less, or at least you supplement them with some other toothy reinforcement. I don't mean like go all the way like get rid of it.

I mean add the ban, add that stuff into it. Or make it so huge that you're paying above market value for people's guns. You give some incentive. It's ridiculous. You can already see where this is going. From this jump off point, the logic of the paranoic gun obsessed patriot world turned the document

into proof that Obama and his Department of Justice were preparing massive gun buybacks and complete gun bans. This is such transparently dishonest presentation, but it's exactly what you'd expect from a group of people desperate to create the appearance that their guns are about to be seized. They don't really have much of a reason

to exist as an organization, the NRA that is, or a force in public discourse if that fear isn't constantly reinforced. So any excuse to ramp it up for them is a good excuse. So now interestingly, I suspect that this is going to play into Alex's feelings about Sandy Hook. And I think the introduction of this report is further evidence that he is about to get going on that.

Oh, yeah, because it's dovetailing. So the report is coming in, and that's whenever he's going to be like, see, and here's the report saying what they're going to do. And here's the soft launch with Sandy Hook. Well, we already knew that he at least believes that the globalists may have orchestrated that shooting, which possibly did involve a real victims, according

to him at this point. He believes that they did that in order to push a gun control agenda. That memo was written on January 4, 2013. So I could easily see Alex using this narrative that he has now introduced, using the timing of it to build up his narrative that the shooting was a false flag. I get the sense that this is possibly

a piece of ground being laid. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I can totally see that. Yeah, we'll see. And maybe I'm just putting pieces together that aren't really there, but it feels kind of like that. We're going to wind up having to give it to the Somalis, aren't we? That's the kind of, every time we're like, look,

all of these pieces of evidence line up to a perfect conclusion. And he's like, and what we're going to do today is we're going to talk about squirrels and how they're bothering my neighbors. Right, right, you have to be like, my show's in a rut. I need to mix it up. You've got, I've got a giant piece of news

that involves the media. It's going to be game breaking. If I have the ability to release it. You have this, the timing of this report being a couple weeks after Sandy Hook. Yeah, absolutely. Just coming to the surface now here in February, end of February, there's a lot of stars aligning.

It all makes sense and it won't happen. That's exactly why I'm sure I'm wrong. Yeah, it's some capricious bullshit. That's one of the most frustrating things about this. It's like, you know the destination. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You get tricked into thinking it's the right road. You're on your way there.

My ways app is fucking screwy, in terms of this. So in this next clip, Alex talks about the memo a little bit more. They spend the whole thing. In the memo, they say, well, assault weapons, you can go read it right now. It's only three pages long. Assault weapons really aren't used in many crimes.

Let's just ban everything. And that's our recommendation. And this is how we need to do it. He says it's three pages long. It's nine pages long. He's completely wrong. And it doesn't say, it doesn't advocate for any specific action.

This is all just nonsense. So one of the things that I find really interesting is that we have a show where we can take as long or as short as we want to do these episodes. Kind of have a freedom of being able to, and so does Alex, honestly. It's just a matter of whether it would be on the radio or not. He could broadcast as long as he wants

out of his InfoWars studio, just whether or not some station in Cocoa Beach is going to be playing it. So when I hear Alex say something like he does in this next clip, all I can hear is him making excuses for not doing a good job. That's great. Let me get to the other news. If I back up everything I say, I'll never get to it all.

Folks, if you hear me say something, just search engine it, I'm not making it up. Okay, I know it sounds insane. What he's saying, I think, is the guiding principle of his show, which is, if I proved things to you, we'd run out of time. I just don't have time. Now, I'm gonna randomly, I'm gonna repeat myself

over and over and over again about the globalist being demons, and I'm gonna yell for long stretches of time about nothing. I'm gonna do a fucking long critical breakdown of the Watchmen movie. I'm just going to talk to my lawyer for a while. Certainly in the present day, yeah. I mean, that is not a good excuse.

The idea of, if I have to prove things, it'll take too long. You just, so why prove them? So just believe me, that is a dangerous mentality to have. While you're listening to this show in your car, I want you to pull out your phone and Google, make sure that you, oh, you can't pause my broadcast. Okay, well, right down, while you're driving in your car

and listening to my show, write down everything that I'm saying so you can Google it later. Right, it's not a good way to approach a truth-based show. Yeah, it seems like we're not dealing with a truth-based show. It does feel that way sometimes. It does feel that way. So in this next clip, you know,

whenever you do a broadcast show that's a call-in show, you always run the risk of prank callers pretending that there's somebody that they're not. Like maybe someone pretends to be a celebrity and they call in your show. That's not what happens here. But Alex is worried that it might be, okay. And a fellow called in saying he was Ted Nugent,

who's been on the show probably 10 times in the last 15 years or so. In fact, I've been trying to get him on lately. And somebody called in saying they're Ted Nugent, and I said, okay, ask him, because I couldn't talk to him just now and run out there and find out who they are and make sure it's Ted.

I said, ask him what he drove into the Piers Morgan thing in Houston Inn. And he said, my pilot's cruddy gray SUV. So it's either Ted Nugent or it's somebody that was there and new. So I'm very excited to get Uncle Ted on. Whether it's if it's Uncle Ted, I'll recognize his voice. Is that Uncle Ted?

Alex, greetings from the self-evident truth army that supports everything you do, man. I would always definitely mean that cruddy SUV. And I'm just gonna let you know that those of us who dance on the skull of Piers Morgan ought to communicate more often. Because you did God's work, man. And I'm calling him to say thank you.

Oh man, Ted Nugent just out of nowhere calls in the show. Unplanned Nugent appearance. Who the fuck is? What is Ted Nugent doing? He's driving around. He actually loses signal at one point. Alex has to go to another caller and then Ted gets back on the line.

Alex is like, caller got to put you on hold. Ted Nugent's back. Oh my God, I can't. Yeah, it's very weird. No, this is weird. This is too weird. I don't care too much about what Ted says, because it's all just like, I love guns.

Yeah, no, I hope. He know, fuck off. But there's one clip that I think is important to play of Ted Nugent's on the phone appearance with Alex. And it's because it reveals that he believes something similar or exactly the same, actually, that Alex does. That's not true.

I've saluted too many flag draped coffins and taken too many heroes of the military that have sacrificed their legs and their arms, their eyeballs, and their skin fighting, not just for freedom, not just for the American way and the US Constitution Bill of Rights. But Alex, they all reference the Second Amendment because the Second Amendment is the teeth in freedom.

Now, what's important there is the teeth in freedom, the liberty teeth. The only place that that traces back to is the fake George Washington quote that we talked about that Alex thought was Thomas Thomas' quote. Oh, right, that's right. Literally, that is what Ted Nugent is referring to there,

that fake quote from George Washington, allegedly from an addressed Congress where he calls guns the teeth of liberty. That is 100% what he's doing. I kind of just thought he was an idiot and he was trying to say you can't spell freedom without teeth because he doesn't know how to spell. Outside of the awareness that I have

and the research I've done, I would go with you. But since I have looked into this and I understand, like the teeth of freedom, liberty teeth, is a very specific expression that exists in one place and one place only. These patriot folk have mythologized this fake quote that they don't realize they're just quoting some guy who was a columnist in the 20s

for Farmer Tractor Trailer Magazine or whatever. Jesus. Can't remember exactly. Trapper Trader. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Farmer Trapper Trader. Hunter Trapper Trader, whatever it was. They think that they're quoting George Washington and they're not.

But it's interesting because you gotta understand how these things were early memes. Like they were, in the same way that you have these, you know, Pepe kind of things that go around the internet now, these ideas were circulating in old patriot message boards and newsletters and things like that. So when you trace back, like, oh, Ted Nugent has this liberty teeth, guns liberty teeth thing.

Alex has this, you know that they're swimming in similar ponds of fucked up bad information in that militia, information sphere. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a mess. I really don't want to, like, I don't want the country to descend into fascism and get killed because of some imaginary bullshit that these guys believe.

It's really annoying. It's really annoying that what they believe isn't real but they still get to kill people in real life. Like, shouldn't you only be able to hurt imaginary people? It would be nice if they just got on Second Life or something like that. See, that'd be great. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, guys.

You know, it's like what they say was that old quotes. Like, when it goes, when it all goes down, it won't be with a bang. It will be because of fake quotes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was Thomas Jefferson, actually. I believe so. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So Ted Nugent leaves and Alex goes to other calls and, man, this caller, I don't recognize the voice so we can't put him down as like Bible Dan or Old Man House Phone. I was really hoping it was Bible Dan. Frontier psychiatrist. Frontier scientist. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That boy needs therapy. It's just a guy who believes in occult numerology. Okay. And believes the 2013 is gonna be a messed up year because 13 is unlucky. Fair. You know, the occult is really big in a numerology. Of course, you probably already know

that I've uncovered that at some point. Some points that I'd like to make that I don't know if you've actually figured out or researched is, you know, in the school and bones picture with Bush, if you look at the clock in the back at the point of the one o'clock, I think something really bad's gonna happen in 2013

because of course you've heard of the 11th hour, which would be 11 and then 12. No, sure. The occultists are obsessed with 13, but 13, I think is lucky. 13 colonies, 13 original states. I mean, you know what? I make my own luck because I love God above,

but listen. It's not a great response. It's not a great. So you got a caller who's calling in that's saying that there's this picture of George W. Bush. Right. And it's a one o'clock and that's 12 plus one. Wow.

12 o'clock plus one is 13. Bingo. So 2013 is gonna be super unlucky because the skull and bones Illuminati have a bunch of plans. And Alex's response to that isn't, hey buddy, I appreciate that you like the show, but I think you need to talk to somebody because you're drawing tenuous fucking connections.

His response is, no, no, no, no. 13 is a lucky number because of 13 colonies in America. And I make my luck because I love God. I don't, I don't remember the Bible verse where God was like, if thou love me, you're gonna have to make your own luck. Like I don't, I don't. So should the letter B be? It's weird.

Because B looks like a scrunch together 13, Dan. It's weird. It's just to me an indication of lack of care for the people that he's influencing. You know, like, obviously this guy probably would be looking for weird nonsense with or without Alex. Right. But the reality is what the reality is

and Alex is clearly a part of it. In this next clip, I think we get another indication of how little he really cares about these callers because he gets another call from a guy who's been listening for 15 years and listened to this dismissive bullshit. Like I said, I'm a longtime listener. Let's do about the Bohemian Grove, all this in the past.

I've listened to you and Alex for about 10, 15 years. And I've got a lot of your videos. Have you got anything that you can send the Alex to help wake up my community? You know what? If people aren't awake right now, they may never wake up. But there are people who are awake in your area.

God bless you. I appreciate your call. What the fuck kind of response is that? He didn't even listen to the question. I doubt he did. But if he had, let's just assume that he did listen and that was his response. I don't understand how someone like Alex Jones

can like work in such a like, who cares kind of way. This guy's calling in. He clearly believes the shit you're saying. He's been listening for a fucking decade plus. And he's like, I got all your books and stuff. What can I do to wake up my community? Ah, what's the use? Like if his response is like, the caller is asking him,

how can I help people with the information you put out into the world? What can I do to make the world better? According to our agreed upon conception of it. And Alex is like, you know what? There's no real use. People aren't on our team already. They're probably not going to be.

Why have an information war at that point? Right. What is the point of his show? Didn't the guy ask him, is there anything you could send me to help wake up my community? I think he means like DVDs or like posters. Right, right. It seems like that would be the perfect place for Alex

to jump into plug mode for sure. Right? He'd be like, hey, you can go to Info War Store and you can get, and that'll help you. And he didn't do that at all. He was just like, hey, you know, you win some, you lose some, shut the fuck up, get out of here. If people aren't on board already,

they're not going to be. Which again, I already said this, but I have to stress. Why do the Alex Jones show? If people who are going to wake up have already woken up, does that not imply that all you're doing is preaching to the choir? Well, you can't let them go back to sleep. I guess so.

They get tired, damn. Fair enough. It's hard to keep being afraid of everything. Yeah. So in this last clip here from the 24th, Alex, we know he's a violent man. We know that he has a lot of like, especially looking back with real gross fondness.

May have killed a lot of dogs. It's possible. So in this clip, we hear kind of a transition in Alex's telling of his childhood violence from being the result of him being bullied to him antagonizing people. Right. And I don't think he understands,

as he's telling the story, the very serious difference between the types of violence he's describing. I mean, there comes a time where you just don't bend over. You're like, you know what, bully? I don't know how this is going to end, but you want to beat me up. You know, when I was like 10, 11, 12 years old,

I got beat up by bullies almost every week. And my dad was the type of guy who just said, well, learn how to, you know, fight them, fight them. I guess he was old school. And you know what, it was really fun when I learned how to beat up the bullies. He was a shitty dad. And it just learned, you know what?

I'm going to absolutely attack you back full power. And even if sometimes they were five years older than me and a lot tougher than I was, they didn't mess with me next time, even if they kicked my butt, because I ended up hurting them. And if they got on top of me in a dog pile, I'd start biting them.

And I was like 12 years old, big bloody chunks out of them. They backed off real quick. Okay. And then years later, I went overboard. I'd find those bullies and stomp their brains out. Okay. I'm not kidding around here.

So, wow. At the end there, what he's describing is him initiating violence on people, which is very different than the idea of self-defense. Like I still don't like violence. I don't think it's the answer. But if someone is being picked on and someone tries to start a fight with them,

I don't think there's really that much bad or wrong, especially in adolescence, about fighting back. Like I think that there's better avenues to go down, but in the world we live in, I'm not going to blame Alex for fighting back when he's being bullied. I am going to blame him for going and finding people who he has determined are bullies

and then stomping their heads in. That is a very, very different thing. Yeah, that's really stalker-ish. That's really not good. He seems to think that it's all the same and all very, like, ah, it's all just fighting back. He's not. At a certain point, you're not.

You, he even says, I went a little overboard, but he doesn't seem to think that's a problem. That's fucked up. So we get now into the 25th, and Paul-Joseph Watson has a news story that he is putting out here on the 25th. And what do you know? It's not based in reality,

but the reality that's behind it is actually pretty funny. I'll tell you what it is, and it should be out in the next 15, 20 minutes or so. Homeland Security has funded Abe's new special drone, specifically to hunt down gun owners. You can't make this up. We have the actual training video.

I'm laughing because it's just so out of control. I mean, we're in a science fiction movie. Oh, man. Oh, man. So it should be pointed out that this is not the gigantic news that Alex is teasing, that we talked about at the beginning of the show. This isn't that story.

This is just a completely, this is another story. It's another completely overblown, exaggerated, and manipulatively presented story designed solely to amplify Alex and his community's status as victims of an oppressive government. The actual story is that the Department of Homeland Security released a promotional video about a surveillance drone

that would be made available to law enforcement agencies. In Four Wars Angle on this story, surprisingly, isn't that the DHS is providing surveillance drones to cops and that's fucked up? That is fucked up. It's that the promotional video includes footage of a clandestine gun sale, which they're offended is being presented

as an illegal act. To quote the first paragraph from Paul Joseph Watson's article, quote, the promotional video for a surveillance drone now being purchased by law enforcement bodies across the country with the aid of DHS funding shows a UAV spying on a private gun sale, falsely depicting the scenario as criminal activity. I don't care about this stupid story

and their desperate attempts to make their gun obsessive community look like scrappy oppressed underdogs doesn't charm me either. I literally am only even covering this because Alex didn't seem to have a problem with his exact same depiction of a private gun sale being depicted as illegal when his sponsor, where to hideyourguns.com included dramatized footage

of it in their promotional video. Now, I wonder, what's the difference between these situations? Oh, I know it's the fact that in the hide your guns commercial, the person who's purchasing the gun is a shirtless black man with an oversized dollar sign chain around his neck. And this is being presented as a criminal act in that video.

Don't get it twisted. It was part of a compilation of reenactments, including a guy using a crowbar to break in a window. So Alex is perfectly fine accepting money from people who present private gun sales to black people as a criminal act. But when anyone dares suggest that an off the books gun sale to a white person might be illegal,

it's proof that tyranny is upon us. This is woefully transparent. This is nonsense. Yeah, yeah. I don't like the whole private gun sale thing. I understand. It's too much to unpack. Because I don't know where the line is,

and I don't know what my full feelings on it are. But I do know that if Alex wants to get right with God, so to speak, and be consistent, he should never accepted money from hideyourguns.com. He should have made a huge deal about the fact that in their video, they're depicting a private gun sale to this cartoonish character. I really can't believe that.

I really can't believe that that's real. Every time you tell me that. Giant dollar sign chain buys a gun from a guy and then tucks it into his pants. You tell me that, and every time, I'm like, that cannot be real. That's just not possible. He doesn't care about that depiction,

which I think more importantly than bickering about private gun sales, I think it's more important that that sort of thing undercuts his, he doesn't care about guns. No. He cares about white people having guns. So in this next clip, Alex gets religious on your dumb ass, man.

We've heard him say some weird religious stuff in the past. Yeah. And sometimes it's like, I understand what you're, this makes no sense. Just amazing, but he's the idea of, oh, it's of the Lord to turn your gun in. It's of the Lord to roll over to evil. Totally unbiblical.

The Pharisees were planning to set Christ up and he wasn't ready to be killed yet. So he turned the other cheek to make the guy look like a fool. What? See, everything in there is about the particular story and time. It's like a handbook on how to behave,

and it's all varied. But I guess the average dumbbell out there, you don't know how to understand the Bible, which saddens me. That's why they want you dumbed down. Let's talk to Brian in mass. All right, go on the phone. Wait, wait, wait, so, so, so,

so that whole turn the other cheek thing that Jesus made a really big deal out of. Right. That was actually Jesus playing the long game? If you, if you want, anyone may follow after me so long as they're playing the long game, Dan. So this is legitimately like next level fucked up, but Alex thinks that he, like Jesus didn't turn

the other cheek in the Bible because he did turn the other cheek, excuse me, because he was beefing these Pharisees and he wasn't ready to die yet. So turning the other cheek is a way of putting it off. Putting off that. Oh, I'll turn the other cheek now, but then a few years later,

I am going to find you and stomp you down. The idea of turning the other cheek appears in Matthew 539, which if you don't recall is part of the Sermon on the Mount. This was a big speech for Jesus. He was still in the early stages of his preaching, though he'd recently gone out to the desert and resisted the temptations of the devil. So he was coming off some momentum,

but still hadn't broken into the mainstream. You know, like for stand-ups, it's kind of like if you did new faces at JFL, but you don't have any late night credits. Right, right, right. So it's sort of like, you know, you've resisted the devil out in the desert, but you're not mainstream.

Not there yet. Right. The sermon is basically Jesus laying out what mainstream Christianity is all about. You've got the beatudes at the beginning. You've got the like blessed or the meek for they will inherit the earth passages. Yeah.

All hits. You've got some points Jesus makes about what behavior is appropriate, and then you get to the cheek turning part. Turning the other cheek is explicitly explained in opposition to the mentality of an eye for an eye, referencing back to the old law of Leviticus. Right.

It's a revolutionary idea of pacifism that Jesus is expressing, and it's clear what he means. Quote, but I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also. And if anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt,

hand over your coat as well. If anyone forces you to go one mile, go with them two miles. You're an idiot that doesn't know how to read the Bible, Dan. That's fair. I don't know. Do you know what he was saying right there?

I'm not the biggest biblical scholar, and I don't know what other instances Alex could be talking about, because there is a point where Jesus gets hit, but that's already when he's been arrested. Yeah. I don't know what he's talking about. I don't know.

There's that one book in the book of, what was it? The Apocrypha where Jesus killed that kid? Like that kid? That was the child gospel of Thomas. Yeah, yeah. The kid like ran up to him and he touched him, and Jesus was like,

fuck you and then murdered that kid right away. But he brought him back to life. Well, yeah, but that's, you know, it could be that. That's not what he's talking about. There's no reason that you would think that, that boggles my mind. I don't know enough about like weird, I mean, I've read a lot of extra biblical scriptures,

but I don't know enough to know if that exists somewhere in some non-canonical book. Maybe it was in the one where Jesus fought dragons. Turn the other cheek is specifically about Matthew five. Like that is where that exists in the Bible, and it's part of the Sermon on the Mount. Yeah. Also, seriously, the Sermon on the Mount

is pretty much that one tent pole fucking, oh, this is why we have a Christ kind of thing. Sure. The whole beatitudes is like, oh, this is the whole reason that we're not doing. I think we might be pronouncing it wrong. Is it beatitudes? Is it beatitudes?

Yeah. I thought it was, but then you said it, and I didn't want to correct you because usually you research things. But I also misspeak a lot. That's true. That's fair. I am not good at pronunciation.

You know what I am good at though? What? Warning you that we're about to get a guest appearance from Mike Adams. Oh, no. The health ranger. Oh, God. So when we were recently on behind the bastards,

we had the pleasure of Robert Evans telling us all about the terribleness that is Mike Adams. That giant piece of shit. And one of the things that even I was unaware of was that Mike Adams made that vaccine zombie song. Yeah. Yeah. And so when I turned on this episode,

got to the Mike Adams portion, and found out this bit of news, I was very unsurprised because the pump had been primed. What did you think about the Dorners situation? I mean, they say, burn that mother down, burn that effort down, burn down the house. OK, we're placing the burners. We have fire.

It's burned down. Mission complete. Well, we're doing a parody video on that with Billy Joel's song, We Didn't Start the Fire, being sung by the LAPD. It'll be out this week. We didn't start the fire. It's been burning. It's also Bill Clinton singing that over Waco.

It turns out Mike Adams might have made a lot of parody videos in his time. Wow. Now, I did search for this. I was hoping to be able to play it for you. But Mike Adams' YouTube channel has been taken down. Of course. God damn it.

And no one else has seemed fit to repost his We Didn't Start the Fire parody. Surprise. Although from the blog post about it, On Natural News, it didn't sound like they made new music. Right. I think they just put video over, or pictures, over Billy Joel's song.

OK. So it might not have been as ambitious. So was he one of the founding members of the Lonely Island? And then they were like, oh, shit. You're a horrible monster. What if he was? What if he was an SNL writer? That would be hilarious.

So Mike Adams in this next clip says that Obama is a hypnotist, which is a good accusation to make. And then Alex talks about something that is absolutely not true. Absolutely does not happen on his show ever. There is no greater hypnotist in politics today than Obama. He's a hypnotic speaker. Better than Clinton ever was.

And Clinton was a brilliant. How dare you. But Obama's even a better master of neurolinguistic programming and hypnotic language. Is that why I love him? It must be. It must be. I love Obama.

Why are you hurting him? You know, when I've taken the Obama callers, sometimes they call in desperate going, you're a horrible liar. Why are you doing this? Don't you talk about him? And they're real people. We've put them on hold and says, is this a joke? And they're like, no, you devil.

I actually believe it. I've listened to hundreds of hours, probably more than that, of Alex's show. I've never heard any caller that even is close to what he's describing. Of course not. I've never heard any caller that's like, he could embellish into that.

Yeah. It's bananas to me. The idea that he's presenting like, Obama callers calling, why are you hurting my hero? Yeah, like every time we've had him on the show, all I've heard was somebody trying to reasonably say, Alex, I know why you're saying that. But here's this.

And Alex is like, you fucking people. There have even been a couple of times where he specifically put out the bat signal for Obama callers, people who support Obama. And the people who call in are like, I don't actually support Obama. You know, like he generally gets people who are like, I don't support Obama.

He's not as bad as you say he is. But I don't support him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right. That's a far cry from someone crying. So Mike Adams has got this parody song that he's thrilled to put out. But he is like, I didn't, I didn't realize this.

I think Mike Adams might want to be seen as funny. I didn't realize that. Yeah. Because he's not. Yeah. You know, remember that video that he made that we talked about where he was like, this gun can't fire itself.

Right, right, right. I think he really thought that was probably super funny and was shooting for funny. Because you got like the vaccine zombie. That's clearly an attempt at humor. Yeah. We didn't start the fire parody song. He clearly has a pattern of making parody songs.

Right. And then he comes in with this fucking hot bit. Like he's got a bit. He's coming into Alex's show with. Is it a limerick? No. Damn it. All right, Mike, you came in here

to get into some really big breaking health news that is so important. But first off, tell the TV viewers, but describe it for radio listeners, about Obamabytes made in China. What is this? And go over the ingredients. Did you come up with this?

Yeah, you know, I always like to bring a little bit of satire with me in the studio. But so we have a new nutritional product formulated by Obama called Obamabytes, daily chewable multivitamin. And it's got all sorts of trace minerals in it that you can see here. He's got a prop.

He's got a fucking. This is this is amazing. I didn't realize you could be so unfunny. I didn't even know you were trying to be funny. Yeah, that is a new level of pretty impressive. That's crazy. But it's like, you know, he's it's almost like he thinks he's doing a late night show.

Yeah, he's coming to do panel. And he's brought a bit. He's brought his. Well, you know, just trying to give Alex a little bit of like easy lifting. Right. I'm going to impress him with how much prep work I did. I made a little bottle of Obama.

That's crazy. So now, Jordan, we don't think he's funny. But in this next clip, I think we get a strong evidence that Alex doesn't think he's funny either. Because Mike starts listing off the mineral names that are in the bottle. And this is fucking bombing in the room.

Oh, no. This is so bad. This isn't Bob Ducca. We're talking about this. Listen to how silent Alex is through these bits. And it's got all sorts of trace minerals in it that you can see here, including obamnesium. You know, a lot of supplements have magnesium

and, you know, zinc. But this has obamnesium, which causes you to forget history all the way back to 1776. So you forget American history. Here's this mineral is really powerful. Squeezym. That helps the TSA do its job better. Squeezym.

That's a nice trace mineral there. Oh, you could just feel the bomb. Ouch. Yeah, just like the fact that Alex didn't respond to the obamnesium. And then he had to like hit to laugh at his own bit. And then move on to the squeezym. Yeah, that was.

And over-explaining it. You have no help in that room, Mike. Yeah, that is rough. I have been to too many open mics with that. Maybe even where Mike Adams was with that bit. I felt it. I felt that open mic bombing going on. That was some PTSD right there.

So we end the 25th. They just have a much longer conversation about unimportant health news. Who cares? And we get into the 26th. And Alex has big news on the 26th. And that is that he was on another show that morning. But this isn't the big news that he was teasing

in the earlier shows. This is different big news. I promise that I'm not holding out on you. I do not know what that is. OK, OK. I was on Howard Stern for an hour and a half this morning. They were going to have me on for like 30 minutes. I was on for an hour and a half.

And growing up off and on, listening to Howard Stern, being on stations, broadcasting on stations that carried Howard Stern. It's just weird to be sitting there talking to Howard Stern for an hour and a half. And Robin Quivers really was waking up to the New World Order. And to a certain extent, Howard Stern was as well.

And I was able to talk to his sizeable audience, the biggest on XM and Sirius, undoubtedly, the king of that format. And able to talk to him about some really, really important issues. So Alex is Swung Howard and Robin. OK. All right. There's not a ton of him talking about this other than just

being like, you know, I started telling him about Flow Ride. And they loved it. Oh, boy. Oh, boy. You get the sense that maybe they were fucking with him. They were definitely fucking with him. And he didn't realize it. Yeah.

Especially considering the state of affairs between him and Howard in 2019. Yeah, Stern had to have been fucking with him. You get the sense. I'm not entirely sure. And I don't particularly care. But it is another interesting thing where Alex is, like, really excited about this greater exposure of the show is getting.

He now has, like, reached Howard, the king of all media. He's reached his audience. And it's surreal to be on that. And it would be. It absolutely would be. Absolutely. So you get a sense that, like, this is how he's putting the pieces together to, like,

we really got to push. Which shows in a rut. You got to mix it up. How do you do that? Well, you know, you got to change up a little bit the content. And then also simultaneously, you got to change up your strategies. You got to figure out how to get new blood in.

Yeah. That's isn't that amazing in 2013 that nobody had any idea. Like, we all, everybody, thought that Alex was this odd, like, hilarious conspiracy theorist. Or they were a listener of his and they were. Or you just didn't know who he was at all. Or you just didn't know who he was at all. So people like Howard Cern would have him on his platform,

like Piers Morgan. And they had, and we had no idea that all that would really do is lead to an incredibly increased presence of white supremacists everywhere. I mean, people thought Hitler was silly for a bit. Yeah, that's true. That's true. So another thing that Alex does is he has a new guest on the show.

And I don't think we're going to talk much about this, but I have some thoughts. And yes, my son is going to be in studio in about an hour. He's here at work with me today. And I want to get him in studio because he came up with some pretty funny jokes this morning. He has some other riffs on Mike Adams' mineral names.

Wait, wait, wait. He has more mineral names? He came up with more mineral names until Alex has him on. I'm not going to play any of Alex having his son on his show because I think that this is child abuse. We've already taken that editorial position. But I have a further editorial position that I need to make clear because of the circumstances.

At this point, Alex won't say his son's name publicly, which I think is probably good. But he's letting him be on his radio show. At this point, his son is 10 years old. And all he does when he comes on is these little bits that are just like recreating some of the jokes that Mike Adams bombed with the day before. But it's a 10-year-old, so it'll be funnier.

And then also repeating a ton of lines he clearly has heard Alex say and then passes them off as his own beliefs and opinions as a 10-year-old. I really wrestled with this because on the one hand, I feel like playing clips of this fourth grader doing an impression of his dad talking about how the globalists are offshore bankers and shit clearly demonstrates how evil Alex is.

He's the adult. He knows that his son doesn't understand any of the things he's talking about, and he's just repeating his own words in an attempt to gain his approval. He has a responsibility to treat his son as an individual, not as an extension of himself, but that's exactly what Alex is doing here. That said, I decided against it because this 10-year-old

is someone who's not expressing their own positions. The only way to practice empathy towards this child is to refuse to accept that it's okay to make fun of him because he's connected to Alex. That's treating him as an extension of Alex as opposed to treating him as an individual, a child. Some may think that I'm being soft on Alex or his son, since Alex is the one who does look really bad

in this situation, but I don't care. If you think that is the case, I appreciate your perspective, but I disagree with you, and I would rather deal with that criticism than what other feelings I would have about myself for indirectly or directly making fun of a 10-year-old. Yeah, I would really prefer not to criticize a 10-year-old's mineral jokes whenever.

The jokes are actually better than McAdams. Oh, of course they are. Unfortunate for Mike. But especially because I kind of view that 10-year-old as a victim of child abuse. That's exactly what I said. So why would, yeah, why would I want to be like, uh-oh, I'm fucking unobtainium, but unobobbenium is better,

like fuck off. I wouldn't take that approach to it at all, but it would just be playing a 10-year-old repeating Alex's stuff and Alex being like, yes, I've got a great acolyte here, doing his Palpatine impression. It's just, me bringing this up and explaining it should give you all you need.

We don't need to play a fucking 10-year-old. Anyway, in this next clip, Alex talks about how all high schools are fight clubs. Oh, fight clubs at high schools. They're discovering, I thought every high school was a fight club. Is the media just discovering that high school is a fight club?

I literally, that's how I describe my high school. It was fight club, man. Fight club, we have the coolest coaches and stuff. You know, people have their heads split open and stuff, they wouldn't call the police on you. Anyways, but I guess we're all on estrogen now, so everything's fine. I think Alex just broke two of the rules of fight club.

Yeah, he's talking about fight club. Wow, so I would say that it's not cool for coaches to not call the police after a kid gets their head cracked open. Nah, nah, makes them tougher, Dan. I don't think it's cool for these coaches to not be snitches. We had some really cool coaches though, Dan.

They would let us kill each other and they would never do anything about it. They were so cool. That is indicative of like. That's fucked up. Yeah, if you believe that that's the appropriate place of school administrators, like you, who boy. Yeah, also the fact that there's so many things,

there's so many head traumas in Alex's life. So many, it's hard not to believe. Like I'm not surprised he believes in an imaginary enemy. I'm surprised people listen to him. That, yeah, yeah. So in this next clip, Alex comes out against science. Yeah, well, it's about time. Science is a religion of the eugenicist.

And sure, the fake churches created false debates with science, a lot of them are even longer than the scientists. But real science shows the creation and the creator. What? And now digressing, we'll come back, I got some calls, I got a bunch of other news. So apparently the only real science in the world

is that which confirms the existence of God. And yeah, so science is only good even so much as it is in line with religion, which means. Oh, okay, so then science would never have created guns. What do you mean? That confirms God. God loves guns. Oh, okay, nevermind. Didn't you read all the Bible passages about guns?

I'm pretty sure that guns do not confirm or deny the existence or non-existence of a deity of any kind. Turn the other cheek is actually like a mistranslation from the original Hebrew. Cock your cock it up. Drop another round if you change it. That's what it actually says. I don't know.

So throughout this span of time, from the 23rd or 24th onward, Alex has been really, really excited about a guest he's got coming up here on the 26th. He, it's someone who he has talked a lot of shit about in the past and is a major figure in right wing media. He's somebody who has a gigantic radio show and Alex has not been cool about in the past.

He's said a lot of really fucked up shit about him, but this. Is it really Glenn Beck? No, this February 26th, 2013 is the first time that he is being a guest on Alex's show. And I believe it signifies the moment when this person goes from fuck this guy to he's one of the greatest patriots ever.

It's Michael Savage. Okay, it was either Beck or Savage. He has Michael Savage on the show and it's really interesting because on the 25th, Alex got a call from some listener who was like, hey, you know, he's fine with like Obama using drones. It's why, if you have him on,

you need to ask him these hard-hitting questions about the things that like are really big differences in your worlds. Yeah. And Alex is like, hey, I'm not gonna bait a guy in here and then ask him all these confrontational questions. In my head, I'm like, what about the time you had David Rothschild on the show?

What about all the times that you've done that to people? Go fuck yourself, Alex. No kidding. What about Bill Ayers? Come on, man. Alex, the reason that he's not going to do that is because in the same way that he's so excited that he went on Howard Stern's show,

he recognizes that Michael Savage has a gigantic audience. And the idea of having some sort of detente between them, some sort of a coming together mutual respect building between them, that's super valuable to Alex. Then Alex might be able to go on The Savage Nation, Michael Savage's show, or he might be able to bring some people from Savage's audience to him

by having Savage on more. Savage doesn't do many interviews with people. He's fucking smarter than that. Yeah, he knows what's gonna happen if he goes into hostile territory. He doesn't know anything. Well, he does know quite a bit, but he's so angry as a person

that if he goes into any environment where let's say you or I were, we could so easily bait him into saying the n-word. Okay, all right. It would be the easiest fucking thing in the world. All right, now I got who we're dealing with here. I think he knows that about himself. And he's like, I don't put myself in that situation.

I'm a fucking billionaire. I broadcast out of a enclosed space, and then I live my life. I do not go talk to liberals or anything. And I don't think it's because he's afraid of being proven wrong. I think he just knows he is full of rage. Gotcha.

Okay, all right. And I have a reason for thinking that, and we'll get to that in a little bit. Because he's been convicted of assault on multiple occasions? I don't know if he has, but he's... He's been eligible. I don't know if that's the case.

It's more verbal than physical attacks. Here's a couple of fun trivia pieces about Michael Savage. Let's hear it. In the 1960s, he was friendly with Allen Ginsberg. What? There was a picture of him skinny dipping with Allen Ginsberg. What are we doing, Dan?

What are we doing? Stop it. Get out of here. He also worked for Timothy Leary. He was a gatekeeper at the LSD experimentation facility. Michael Savage is a fucking weird forest gump going through history being an asshole? Timothy Leary chose him, apparently,

as the story goes, because Michael Savage was in no way interested in psychedelics and taking them. So he was a safe person to have as sort of a doorman for the place where they were experimenting with LSD. He is crazy. He has a history through these bohemian circles through the 60s and 70s, and then he turned completely the other direction.

And a lot of people who knew him back then have speculated that he felt a lot of rejection from those people, and part of his turning on them is this weird betrayal. That they're like, I don't know why he, this doesn't seem like him. I don't know what happened, but it's weird. Another person who used to know him

was also said that he wanted to be a comedian and that he bombed performing because he wanted to be like this Lenny Bruce type and that it didn't work out for him. And so he pivoted into this political sphere. God damn it. He is a guy who, before he got super political, was writing books about herbal healing,

sort of alternative medicine stuff, because he is educated in that field and maybe knows some valuable information from there, but the way he's transitioned into what he's become is just awful. Do you know what I sometimes think about? Especially with all of the guys that we, in our sphere where there's so many of these right wing dudes

who are failed comedians, so many of them. Mike Adams, add that to the list. Exactly, no kidding, right? I think I am the wrong amount of funny. I'm not funny enough to be famous. I'm too funny to have failed and become, because I could probably be a right wing hack. Well, I mean, I failed at comedy

and I think that if you do stand up and you're not that good at it, even if you're kind of good, you kind of have to have a little bit of humility to transition out of it, right? Because otherwise you could take it as a real injustice that's been done to you that you never made it. And you have to check your ego a tiny bit

and recognize like I didn't deserve to be famous. Nothing about, even if I'm super talented, that doesn't make me entitled to some kind of record deal or big tour. If you don't make something happen, maybe some choice you made along the way or some choice you didn't make along the way is what led to you not being successful.

And I think a lot of these people, people like Gavin McGinnis or Michael Savage, a legend according to this old friend of his. I'm not saying that, yeah. I mean, who knows? The reports of him being a comedian or trying to be a comedian, they're just based on people who used to know him.

I don't know how much that's actually like what drove him. Right, right, right. But there are enough of the people that fit this mold. There's a generalization that you can make. I think a lot of those people felt entitled to some sort of a path to success through stand up. And when they didn't get it, you know, you externalize that. You externalize blame as opposed to being like,

I just didn't have it. Or maybe it was timing or maybe it was luck. Who knows? But you don't have to feel bad about it. But they've already, I mean, that's, that victim mentality is what makes them so powerful at the end when they turn into the right wing monsters that they become, yeah.

It feeds that fire. Exactly. So also Michael Savage, he got into radio in the 90s and part of it was because he had written a book about immigrants causing disease. And people didn't want to publish it. And so he got into radio and then became pretty successful pretty quick.

God damn it. And he's made a lot of money on it. You know, his books have been pretty successful. His Savage Nation, Borders, Language, and Culture. He wrote a book about how politics is a zoo. And then he compared a bunch of people in politics to animals. It's very weird. I'm surprised he didn't make it in stand-up.

Yeah. So he's made a ton of money on that. But also he has another revenue stream. And that is that his son is the founder of Rockstar Energy Drinks. What? Yeah. God damn it.

What are we doing here? His wife, Janet, is the CFO of Rockstar Energy Drinks, which is why I drink Monster. Yeah. Which was founded by Fred Koch. God damn it. So he's a super weird dude, Michael Savage, really, when you look at it.

Like there is a ton going on there. There's a lot of psycho drama in his life. And then a lot of really weird things. Like the idea that he, in some way, knew Alan Ginsberg. The fact that he knew Timothy Leary. The fact that his son started Rockstar. It's very weird things. That's so crazy.

Yeah, very weird. So anyway, Alex has Michael Savage on. And it's clearly an attempt to create an alliance that will be mutually beneficial for the two of them. They're not going to talk about Ken Keesey's electric Kool-Aid acid test. Fucking wish they would. That would have been great.

But if they did, Michael Savage would just start screaming about how they're all like. He'd probably say the answer. Red diaper doper babies and all this nonsense. So the beginning of this interview is largely Michael Savage bragging about how great his show is and what have you. Whatever.

I'm on the best stations in the country. For example, Alex, I finally got on in New York City on WABC, 9 o'clock at night. Now, what happened? Michael Savage, who's he? I exploded within two months to number one amongst younger listeners, mainly males. I mean, women, as you well know, are not

a big listenership in talk radio in general. I always joke they have eight listeners, eight women listeners across the country. Yeah, they're busy not having kids as the whole West Dice. I think you might have answered your own question as to why most women have. Yeah, I'm going to go with it. Wow.

Yeah. I think when you put yourself in situations like this where you engage in that kind of casual misogyny, maybe you aren't going to attract a ton of female listeners. You know, I get it. I mean, the only eight women listen. Women don't really listen to talk radio. Also, all women are stupid, and we

should never have given them the right to vote. And I don't understand why they don't listen. They're too busy not having babies like I want them to. Jesus, Alex. Wow. And I think Michael Savage saying that women don't like talk radio is on its own a little bit. They're like casually misogynistic.

Yeah. Women don't like your talk radio. In this next clip, Michael Savage. Dude, if anybody, what I kept thinking is like, I used to listen to Savage back when I was in my late teens, early 20s, because there was a radio station called The Eagle in Columbia, Missouri.

And Savage was on at a time when I happened to be in my car a lot. And he yelled all the time. There was some kind of entertaining about it. And I never agreed with his politics, but there was an interesting dynamic where he would scream at callers and talk politics. And it was kind of like, ugh, this guy's an asshole.

And then he'd tell a story about getting like some really great pasta. And the passion of the story of going to this little Italian eatery. And you could see the lighting in the place. You could see the tablecloths. And there was this like, man, there's an ASMR-ish quality to this voice telling you

that story about this great meatball. Like, I was drawn to it somehow. And anyway, I had this perception of Michael Savage from years past. And I think a lot of people have positive associations with him. Some people probably think that he is really smart. I don't think he's as much of an idiot as Alex.

You think he is. But like, I kept thinking in this interview, like, Jesus, Christ, this guy is stupid. Like, listen to this next clip. And like, like, Mike down for this one. Just because like, think about what he's actually saying. OK. You know, Alex, last week I started my show by saying

I saw a Kung Fu movie when I was out on vacation last week. I was watching a lot of television. And there was a picture of a Kung Fu Academy in China with thousands of young Chinese being taught by a really tough, mean Kung Fu teacher. And he's saying to them, no weakness, no pain, no mercy. And he says, what do we learn here? And the Chinese scream back in Chinese.

No weakness, no pain, no mercy. And I say, look at my sad, sad country. We have a government and an educational establishment teaching our children to say, I'm weak. I'm in pain. This hurts. That hurts. I need the government to help me.

Now, who wins this battle in the long run, Alex? That doesn't take a genius to figure out what's happening, does it? OK. So who wins this battle? Is it the youths of America or characters in a Kung Fu movie? Do you understand that this is the dichotomy he's making? Does he think that a Kung Fu movie is a 100% accurate

depiction of all? Absolutely. Does he not realize that we also have Kung Fu in America? You can go to a Kung Fu dojo right now. You can do it. Absolutely. I would recommend you talk to Joe Rogan about it. I'm a big fan of Wing Chun Kung Fu.

That was Bruce Lee's original discipline. It was amazing. You can do that here. Right. This is stupid. It's very stupid. I saw this Kung Fu movie, and I thought, boy, our youths couldn't compete with those hardened Kung Fu

acolytes in a movie. I really don't understand. What is with these fucking ding-dongs and not differentiating between reality and movies? It's so crazy. Is it an actual condition? It might be. Is this an actual psychiatric thing that we just gloss over?

We might be accidentally realizing that a lot of these people just have some sort of inability to differentiate reality. I don't know. I mean, it's possible. It's true. It explains why they're so vociferously anti-communist. Like, as you imagine, they grew up at a period of time

where communism was presented as the same way that marijuana is in reformatness. Right, right, right. Commies were everywhere, and they were coming to get you. Yeah, absolutely. You might be able to trace some of those lingering sentiments to an inability to differentiate the reality from that as presented in movies.

I don't know. But I should tell you that whatever the source of it, it leads Savage to having some fucking really bad ideas. Alex, listen to me. I'll say it again. You better put them in a camp before they put you in one. As George Orwell wrote in the 1930s when he saw what the communists were going to do, if a man comes

to put a bomb in your mother's house, put a bomb in his mother's house first, they, if they could, would put you and I in a concentration camp. No, no, they call for our arrest all the time. I mean, they call for ending free speech. They love it. So if you just pretend that your enemy wants to do x to you,

you get to do x to them preemptively. That's bad. That's very bad. Yeah, yeah, I don't like that. Where does Savage's line exist? Like who should be put in those camps? Like he's advocating that our enemies want to put us in a camp so we should put them in a camp preemptively.

Who? Anybody he thinks is an enemy, Dan. All red diaper doper babies. Absolutely. Put them in a camp. Right. That's one of his big, that's one of the women who don't listen to a show.

Put them in a camp. Sure. Any kids who don't want to go to Kung Fu Academy? Absolutely. Put them in a camp. Right. I would put them in an academy, but. And Barack Obama.

Oh, no. Here's why. That dude can't get enough of teasing old white men. What? Are they trying to set up a civil war, Michael Savage? How do I know what they really want to do? It almost doesn't matter whether they're trying to do it because they're really moving people

against each other, aren't they? I have never seen a more divisive presidency in my life. I've never seen a president who basically antagonizes, should I lay it on the line, the older white males on a daily basis? He literally relishes making older white males angry. He prays they will do something crazy to justify a reaction by the psychotic fascists

in the government to make it very clear. OK, I don't know how else to put it. He's trying to provoke a war in this country. Whether it will happen is only a matter of whether someone goes off or not. So I mean, he's making it a little too overt. I mean, that's why he's stopped himself. Like, should I lay it out?

Like, should I express my racism here? Yeah, let's go ahead and do it. Who cares? Jesus Christ. Well, if you're going to do it, Info Wars is the place to do it. You bet. Yeah, toss that out there. Also, by his very own logic, that

means that they should already be starting the Civil War, right? Yeah, probably. Well, I mean, he wants to put people in camps. Right. Oh, yeah. I mean, this is just the exact same sort of rhetoric that would be going around during the Civil Rights era of like, you're rocking the boat, you know?

Like, you want to be able to fucking sit in these restaurants? Right. Why are you trying to antagonize old white men? He's he's whatever, whatever you take steps towards respected, being respected as equal human. Yeah, you're antagonizing. Oh, yeah.

To old white men. I'm as opposed to old white men being antagonized. No, no, no, he's making them angry, Dan. Barack is making old white men angry. He's doing it on purpose. He knows what will make old white men and that would be existence. That would be the existence of Obama.

He really I'm I'm I'm. Savage is pretty stoked. He didn't say uppity because God damn it. Did he want to? That's fucked up. I'm certain he has on many other. Oh, of course, of course, of course. Savage is a man.

He's one that is racist. Yeah, that is racist. I mean, he talked to we talked about him on a past episode where Alex had him on. I don't remember probably from like the 2015 period or something and Alex was like trying to get him off the hook. He was like, yeah, you're not you're not saying this as a racist thing.

He's like, don't speak for me. Oh, yeah, that's right. I do remember that one. But just give a shit about people calling him racist. That's true. His fucking son owns Rockstar. Yeah, he doesn't care if he gets kicked off radio stations. That's fair.

He's independently so fucking rich. He can say whatever he wants. That's the dynamic. Yeah, and that's the way he's been living for quite a while. Yeah, that's fair. So Alex talks to him about how great he did on Piers Morgan, how great Alex did on Piers Morgan. And Savage says something revealing.

The fact is, Alex, he did a great job. I admire you for it. And you should keep doing it. I myself don't go on any shows. I haven't for years. I learned my lesson a long time ago. They're snakes. So like I said, he knows better than to go places.

Where did he learn his lesson? Well, back in 2003, Michael Savage had a show on MSNBC. That was a bad idea. That's crazy. Who put him on what? I remembered that always as him being on Fox. But I apparently had just mixed it up in my memory. He was on MSNBC.

And here is a clip of what got him fired. Let's go to a caller. If you have an airline horror story, give me a ring right here on the Savage Nation. Go ahead, please. Did you have a worse case than this one? Hey, Michael Savage. Pleasure to speak with you today.

I was flying on LaGuardia, and there's two undercover security guards. Somebody was smoking in the bathroom. Someone was smoking in the bathroom. Unbelievable. What happened? Half hour into the flight, I need to suggest that Don and Mike take your s-

because your teeth are real bad. All right, all right. So you're one of those sodomists. Yeah. Are you a sodomite? Yes, I am. Oh, you're one of the sodomites. You should only get AIDS and die, you pig.

How's that? Why don't you see if you consume me, you pig? You got nothing better than to put me down your piece of garbage? You got nothing to do today? Go eat a sausage and choke on it. Get trichinosis. OK, we have another nice caller here who's busy because he didn't have a nice night in the bath house.

Is angry at me today? Get me another one. Put another sodomite on. No more calls. I don't care. Let's go to the next scene. I don't care about these bums. They mean nothing to me.

They're all sausages. Next scene, on to the next scene on the Savage Nation. Oof, that got him fired. So that was on TV. So that was on television, on a television device. That was recorded and broadcast of the world. And you could hear like when he's on MSNBC. And you could hear that producer was like, whoa.

Yeah, I know. That was the funniest part. Oh, no. That moment when the guy was like, whoa. You're just watching like, oh, fuck, we shouldn't have given this guy a show. That's crazy. Yeah.

How long did he last? I don't know. I don't know how long his show was. It seems like that must have been like a month or two in. I think it might have been a little longer than that, but I have no idea. But the point is this is the kind of person that he is. And he's allowed to get away with it on radio

because radio needs attention. Yeah, it just needs anybody, anybody who can draw ears. And if you're in for whatever Michael Savage is bringing to the table, you're not going to be too turned off by him yelling shit like that, homophobic nonsense. So Savage sucks. He's a real piece of shit. And I think that's where he learned

his lesson of when you go into other places that you don't fully control. Like he fully controls his own radio show. So you go into other play areas, you might fucking yell at somebody that they're a sodomite and they should die. And then all of a sudden, it's a big news story that you got fired.

That doesn't look good for the brand. No, it doesn't. And it's not fun. Sure, I'm a billionaire and it doesn't matter to me really, but I don't enjoy it. Right, right, right, right. It was like a really bad couple of weeks. People had texted me.

I slept poorly for a couple of days. I still slept well comparatively. I mean, my bed is amazing. Yeah, I bet he's a fucking water bed. Yeah, seems like the kind of creep. Just as a fuck you to everybody else. Yeah, anyone has a water bed. It's probably Michael Savage.

So in that earlier clip, he's saying that Obama is antagonizing old white men. And that should give you a pretty strong indication that he might be a racist. And this next clip doesn't help anything. They're very clever. Don't ever underestimate your enemy, Alex. I agree.

They are very clever. They're very angry. They're very frightened. And that makes for a very dangerous enemy. So they can't get you on the second amendment. So they cleverly said, okay, so we can't take the guns away from the cracker. Let's take the bullets away from the cracker.

That's what they're doing here, Alex. And that's exactly what needs to be exposed to the general public. And Alex doesn't agree with this. I mean, like when you have someone who's as overtly racist as Michael Savage, he's willing to say they're trying to take the cracker's guns.

Like Alex agrees with him, but he always tries to play that like, no, it's about the guns. Savage lays bare because he doesn't give a shit. That it's about them taking guns from whites. And that's really penetrating for Alex's like the sleight of hand that he likes to play. That like, no, what it's about is about race for you, Alex.

It's a defensive of whiteness. I really don't want to die because of imaginary bullshit. It makes me so frustrated because nobody is trying to take the white man's gun away. No one, no one's trying to do it. Zero people are trying to do it. Nope. And that, and that, and somehow that's how we're gonna die?

Because somebody thinks that- Well, not because of that, but it's part of it. No, I know, but you get it, you know? I don't know. Yeah, it is a bummer. Yeah. So we have one last clip. It's Michael Savage giving his prescription

for what needs to be done. Other than put everyone in camps and allow old white men to go unantagonized. Yeah, it would be terrible if old white men were antagonized. All right, he has another suggestion. There should be drug testing in Congress. There should be drug testing in Congress, Alex.

My final word. And again, you've got a degree in epidemiology, nutrition sciences, PhDs. I mean, you name it, you can recognize it. And I look at Pelosi, she looks like she's hopped up. I mean, if I pulled her over, if I was a cop, she looks like a total, like she's on something. She's on power.

But if you look at Congress and make them pee in a cup, I guarantee you 60% of them would be fired. Amazing, the book, a time for war. Get it, get it out to everybody. They don't want you to read it. So in that clip, I mean, he says, Alex says that he's got a degree in epidemiology, PhDs, you name it, Dan.

He doesn't, he has a PhD in ethnobotany. Okay, that's different. Yeah, that's a little bit different. But it does give him the sort of expertise that you might want for like plant-based medicine books. Yeah, that actually sounds great. So it's nothing to be judged too much there. And like homeopathy, you know,

like he's really adjacent to that sort of world. Is he? Well, then that's bullshit. Well, he was in his earlier career. Okay, well, talk to him then. That's what really makes me mad about him. Herbalism? Yeah.

But whenever he's being presented as like his PhDs in epidemiology, he's a doctor. Well, I guess he is a doctor, he has a PhD, but not in the sense that is understood by his words. It's just all a shell game. It's all pretend, it's appearances. I don't know, I just, it's a bummer. I really don't like Michael Savage.

No, he is a giant piece. The only interaction with Michael Savage I've ever had is on the show. And that's like only a couple of times that he's come up on the show. And I had no idea he was this much of a piece of shit. Oh man, you can find so many videos of him just screaming at people.

He is, there's a good chance that Michael Savage is like the final stage of most of these propagandists. If they had their druthers, they wouldn't suffer anybody who disagreed with them. They'd just scream at them and tell them they hope they died. Cause why engage? Alex has already made clear on this episode, like there are good arguments for gun control,

but just yell at people. Like why wouldn't you just treat everyone that way? Oh, you think women should have rights? Go fuck yourself. Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's a, and weirdly enough, it's in a pure distillation of what it is they actually believe, which is go fuck yourself.

You're not me. So you fucking suck. Yeah, that's it. Michael Savage expresses outright hostility to everyone who is non-white, non-straight women, Muslims in particular, get a real fucking hard punch from him. And it's not for any other reason than he hates them.

Yeah, it is just a hateful, hateful, angry dude. It's so weird to me that you can be somebody that it even exists of like, well, the only people on the planet I identify with are other white males who look almost identical to me. Because I mean, that's, it seems like a psychopathy of some sort. Where it's like, I just cannot understand

and will not engage with anybody who is not me. It is. It's like a clinical lack of empathy that's being expressed. And like what you have is like, Michael Savage is like almost cruelty embodied and it has been for a long time on the radio. And that is why it makes total sense that,

he is another one of these dudes who became big Trump guys whenever Trump came around. Like it makes total sense. Their brand is cruelty. Their brand is, I mean, largely status quo based cruelty. And so of course they get on board. Makes, it's the easiest thing to predict.

Yeah. Fuck these guys. God damn it. Yeah. So we reached the end of this stretch here. We get to the 26th and we still don't have the big news that Alex is working on is investigative report, whatever that might be.

I feel a little self-conscious because of my guessing what it is. And I might be completely out of line on that. I might be way off base. I don't know. And I've listened to the next episode after this and I still don't know. There may be nothing.

It might be nothing. It is entirely possible. But it does feel to me from the, just the context clues that I get, the sense, the feel of it. It feels like it's drifting in that direction towards it being a revelation about Sandy Hook. Yeah.

And at the same time though, I could totally see it being some shittily cut together video of like, when did the Nancy Pelosi, like making a miss, when did that video where Nancy Pelosi misspeaks for a second and he won't fucking shut up about it?

Right. What was that? Was that more recent? That was more recent, right? The 2013. Like maybe he did it then. Yeah. Like it's that kind of,

that might be his big news. No, totally. It could be. We caught Nancy Pelosi going, instead of, and that's it. Totally, or it could be something about the like fucking department of education. I don't know.

I don't know. But it feels, it feels like it. What big stuff is going on around this time? I know. Especially with the fact that he's making so much more outreach. Like he's everywhere apparently. Yeah.

Whatever the case, I hope on our next episode we find out what it is. That'd be lovely. Yeah. We'll see. Either way, because if it doesn't come back up again, I am going to be so mad. I'm going to guess we're not going to find out what it is.

I believe it. I would, that's where I would put my money. Yeah. But because the tension of this is going to kill me. We're going to stay in the past for the next episode. Present be damned. I don't know what, I don't care. Nothing he could be talking about is more interesting to me

than what the fuck in depth shit do you have going on? There are hidden cameras. What could even be involved? I again, think that's just talking shit. You think that's just talking shit? Probably. All right, fair enough. But we'll find out maybe Wednesday.

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