Knowledge Fight - #329: August 4-5, 2019

Episode Date: August 7, 2019

Today, Dan and Jordan take a look at some present day episodes of The Alex Jones Show to check in and see how Alex has responded to the recent shootings. A lot of it is very predictable, but some of it reaches impressive levels of weird and dumb. Plus, it turns out Alex has a new catchphrase which is also weird and dumb.

I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, shang me are the bad guys, knowledge fight, then enjoy knowledge fight, need money, Andy and Kansas, stop it, Andy and Kansas, it's time to pray, Andy and Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding, hello Alex I'm assistant color, I'm a huge fan, I love your work, knowledge fight, knowledge fight dot com, I love you, everybody welcome back to knowledge fight, I'm Dan, I'm Jordan, we're couple dudes like sit around trick novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones, indeed we are Dan, Jordan, what is your favorite tweet, tweet, tweet, tweet, have you ever had a favorite tweet or is this a completely like do not give a fuck situation, I think my friend comedian Zach Peterson a

while back, I only remember a few actual tweets, right, well that's what I'm saying, they're so ephemeral, it seems important if there's one that you do remember, his Zach Peterson, great comedian, wrote one time way back, back in the olden days, I don't know, years back, his fud ruckers is run by the builder burgers, builder burgers, that's not bad, that's not bad, and then the only other one I remember is Murphy Lee from the St. Lunatics, we were me and some other comics were going to St. Louis to do a show and we were driving on the way and Joe McAdam, very funny comedian, check out his sketch group, but absolutely, he was in the car, we were heading to the place and we're like let's see if any St. Louis celebrities will come to the

show and so we're like trying to tweet it like Nelly, yeah, yeah, and of course we ended up getting into the other St. Lunatics and Murphy Lee, we're checking out his Twitter feed and it was great, he was dropping some gems and the only one I remember was, don't nobody love these hoes, but everybody loves Raymond, that's pretty good, what does that mean man, I don't know, but it's pretty good, what does that mean, that's not bad, I don't know, good pairs, anyway I thought it was funny, that is funny, there's a show where I know a couple of tweets and quite a bit about Alex Jones, and I don't know any tweets and nothing about Alex Jones, good, Jordan today what we're doing is we're in the present day and we'll be going over the span of August 4th and 5th 2019 and be covering

Alex Jones's immediate coverage of the shootings in El Paso and Dayton, great, that's what I love, I hope that this won't be as awful as that sounds like it's going to be, because I don't, I guess what I'm trying to sort of string out here is sort of the, I think that if you're particularly sensitive to these topics then proceed with caution, but also I don't know if it's as horrible as you're going to imagine the content we cover will be, but then again I'm jaded and I don't know, I could be entirely off in terms of how people experience things, so anyway fair warning I guess that's the headline, so we're going to get into that, it's interesting to see how narratives are built in crisis mode and in real time and I'm excited to go over all of that, but first Jordan

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Groove, and thank you I'm just here for the Alex Jones laud awful movies, thank all of you very if you'd like to support the show you can do that by going to our website knowledgefight.com clicking the button that says support the show we would appreciate it, it would be lovely, now Jordan this is going to be an interesting thing, I've been really, I was struck with a really interesting thought while I was going through a lot of this episode and one of the things that I wanted to do is I wanted to sort of pose a question almost sort of a guiding idea or thought to have in our minds as we go through this okay and it's a it's kind of a question that's been taken over by conspiracy theorists and people who oftentimes are leading people down bad roads

right right who killed JFK well I mean you could apply it to that yeah and it's the question of what if you know what if Oswald didn't shoot him right what if and that leads you down the road to considering possibly you know unwise sources and you know it leads you down bad roads and I want to I want to hold on to that idea of what if particularly in terms of Alex Jones what if he's wrong you know like for himself what does that mean he's doing you know like if we're wrong what does that mean that means well first of all Alex needs to show me he needs to prove any of his points right and I'm I'm willing to be wrong right what real world consequence does it have if we're wrong um uh oh people could uh erently start caring about other people uh and become empathic

right or you know in in an incorrect way it would be terrible if people did that I mean that's certainly a possibility maybe we would be negligent to a globalist takeover but I'm not sure we're going to be able to do anything about that as is or anybody listening doubtful so there's that what if Alex is wrong he is uh causing terrorist I want to hold on to that question as we go along and just let it ruminate um so also one of the things I wanted to point out before we get started is that I've been noticing in the present day that Alex Jones has a fucking catch phrase that he's working on did I do that oh it'd be great if that would be great the tone he delivers it in is kind of the same okay sort of like uh mischievous tone okay here is a super cut of him saying his

catch phrase from these two days episodes see how it works see how it works see how that works so he see how that works see how that works see how that works he says that condescendingly after he thinks he's made a point yeah oh my god in 2019 times he says it all the time see how that works is his mic drop yeah so I'm gonna keep uh track of I'm gonna keep running uh track of the see how that works uh so we can see how it works yeah so you start on the fourth and that was Sunday and he records in the evening time I think it's like four to six his time so by that point he had every reason to be aware of both shootings yeah um he does not seem to be aware or he seems to be aware of but doesn't seem to care all that much about the date and shooting uh on the fourth

almost the entire thing is about the El Paso one and I don't I don't know why that's the case I'm not entirely sure it would be probably unwise for me to speculate but just so everyone's aware almost everything he talks about for this first uh August 4th episode is about the Texas situation and so he starts and one of the things that's really important that Alex needs to do whenever he's getting ready to get into um speculative I'm going to create a conspiracy mode he needs to justify that he needs to justify behavior since people rightfully call him out all the time about how what he does is really fucked up um and so he does that by appealing to history start of the next segment right out of the break we're gonna come with music

we're gonna play Madeline Albright here on air saying 500,000 children is a good price to pay cutting off their medicine that's what Bill Clinton did sanctions 10 times worse than what George Herbert Walker Bush did and he was a war criminal as well but oh they would never stage a false flag terror attack they would never wind up a leftist to carry out an event no no so uh we already have the insinuation that uh this uh this the shooter in El Paso is a leftist which will develop as time goes on but he he appeals to this like why shouldn't we question things Madeline Albright said that uh these sanctions that killed a bunch of kids were a good like a good price to pay um and uh so they don't care about kids why do you think they care about

people uh shopping and that being how Alex starts his show has me really worried for him if Alex is relying on an argument as flimsy as Madeline Albright said something really fucked up 23 years ago so obviously the globalist would do false flag shootings like that can't mean he's got much to go on if that's the opening volley that's been yeah well it is unimpeachable logic then well certainly the comment that she made Madeline Albright that is she made that in an interview with 60 minutes where she expressed that the consequences of sanctions against Saddam Hussein's government were worth it when weighed against the benefits that's a horrible thing to say and she definitely shouldn't have said that that is my position and it's also Madeline Albright's position

Alex always plays that clip of her little tiny clip from the 60 minutes interview but never discusses how she deeply regretted that interview and guilt about her comments plagued her she said in her book Madame Secretary quote little effort was made to explain Saddam's culpability his misuse of Iraqi resources or the fact that we were not embargoing medicine or food I was exasperated that our tv was showing what amounted to Iraqi propaganda I must have been crazy I should have answered the question by reframing it and pointing out the inherent flaws and the premise behind it Saddam Hussein could have prevented any child from suffering simply by meeting his obligations instead I said the following I think this is a very hard choice but the price we think the price

is worth it as soon as I'd spoken I wished for the power to freeze time and take back my words my reply had been a terrible mistake hasty clumsy and wrong nothing matters more than the lives of innocent people I'd fallen into a trap and said something that I simply did not mean this is nobody's fault but my own it's interesting to me because take whatever you like you know whatever you feel about battling Albright good or bad out of the equation it's really hard for me for this not to be seen as one of the most apologized for incorrect statements made by a politician that I can think of Albright's been very clear that she didn't make the point that she'd meant to that she wishes she could take it back and that what she said was stupid you find so many times where she's

criticized herself like from her own book to the time that Amy Goodman bumrushed her at the 2004 Democratic National Convention she'd been very clear about this it's just kind of wild to me that Alex takes this as proof of exactly what he wants it to be proof of by depriving it of context and any of Albright's later statements where she tries to clarify what she meant it means what Alex says it means because this show is about constructing a narrative also it's hilarious to me that Alex spent so much time discussing how horrible Madeleine Albright's comments are about sanctions but simultaneously supporting Trump sanctions on Venezuela Trump is legit talking about a blockade to push for regime change there which would be devastating to the citizenry

it's basically an act of war but something tells me that Alex is going to be totally cool with it because globalists yeah I'm pretty sure blockades are only ever used in in wars it's a it's a real aggressive act yeah yeah well I mean if Alex doesn't turn on Trump for that I mean I don't I don't know what like what you could say right like why would why would you and then think that you get any mileage out of playing a clip of Madeleine Albright miss speaking on 60 minutes yeah but see this is the thing it's important that he justify ahead of time what he knows he's about to do yeah so if I'm going to get into rank speculation about these these horrors these atrocities that have happened then I'm going to need to be like well they do this stuff yeah so that's what

he's doing it is it is interesting to me that I can't think of any Star Wars movie where Alex isn't probably on the bad guy side like he's already on the the trade federation's blockade of Naboo he's already there man he loves that shit yeah that's why I always plays the imperial march we need some Jedi so we've already got a horribly out of context clip of Madeleine Albright that Alex is going to use his preemptive justification for his narrative spinning so it's really funny to me that this is what he says almost immediately after that if you tuned in today and you want us to break down the current climate current system we're in you found the right place that's what you found really I don't know uh exactly what's going on you know Paso

but I do know that the media is using the crisis to try to cause a race war in this country and that the corporate media has been pushing massive massive massive cultural division in an attempt to get an explosion there's been a full on full on press for that non-stop continually so it's interesting to me that he says that I don't know what's going on but I do know that the media is making a race war yeah it's uh it's amazing to me that we do this show because that means that you continued listening after that point whereas if it were me or a right thinking person I assume it'd be like the media is trying to start a race war cool click click out wait are you the media aren't you the media haven't you been inspiring racist

terrorism for a while now does feel like that is the case yeah um but you know what the thing is that you we're wrong and everybody uh like us is wrong because what if we're dumb uh uh crypto globalists or something yeah that sounds right because Trump doesn't foment hate Jordan that's dumb I don't even like hearing you sarcastically say those words it makes me so angry if you don't like hearing me sarcastically say them you're gonna hate hearing Alex sincerely I can't do it I can't beto auror can all the rest of them up they're totally capitalizing on it blaming the president when you can clearly blame the democrats if you believe their official story about what's happened here by foaming all of this up and making it about race war when Trump's not

made it about race or your color or where you're from he's made it about the law well they're the ones they're invoking all this hate always saying that Trump is the one that is invoking at all but you're dealing with people that think hey 500 000 kids have died I mean I mean that's like 1999 under the clintons in just a few years and and and they admit they've died because you won't let medicine or food come in and she says yeah it's a good price to pay they don't care about 500 000 dead children but oh oh 20 innocent people get killed in El Paso all gun owners are to blame Trump's to blame Alex Jones is to blame humanans to blame they're all the blame ladies and gentlemen they're all the blame

how illustrating is that I'm really shocked he didn't end with see how that works yeah that is a very current style of his broadcast I cannot believe that he's trying to variation on the theme yeah it's pretty close yeah um so you see there he has to weave it back to uh the Madeleine Albright comment because it's so foundational for what he feels is justifying like he knows what he's doing like he oh absolutely there isn't any part of me that doesn't but like no I guess I can't be a hundred percent certain but everything I've learned from studying Alex Jones makes me uh very confident yeah that he enters the studio and he knows that he's going to be producing manipulative uh narratives about real world events like he knows that's what he's

doing and in order to make it feel like this is justified and make it look like that's not what he's doing point to Madeleine Albright saying this bada bing bada boom we're in the clear they don't care about human life because of this now I'm cool yeah I am uh I don't know if I'm uh too jaded or if I've become more mature for I'm just older but I managed to keep the red flames of fire and uh burning hatred uh in my head instead of screaming them out through my mouth because once he started talking I swear to god I just wanted to uh you you're the the level of neighbors that you would have to yell back at me would make your neighbors angry you've got a tough day ahead of you here I know this is going to be rough a lot of this is going to be fucking rough

Dan LaCroix isn't going to be enough I'm listening to this and I'm going well like here's the only thing I can think of is at least it doesn't sound like he what he woke up and was super stoked to go on uh his show and uh justify white nationalist terrorism like it seems like so many of those GOP people were like will woke up yesterday morning filled with like can't wait to tell people why white nationalist terrorism is uh not a problem it was it's disgusting I think you might be wrong about him uh a little bit maybe he's just a little tired well he also recorded his like 16 minute immediate report on Saturday oh so this is he'd already like worked on his day off yeah so he was a little excited gotcha gotcha um but halfway expected him to pop champagne just like

a 2016 election and fucking laugh well uh we'll see where it goes um there's a uh there's another thing that he needs to do like he needs he needs to fully cloister himself within some sort of protective blanket about his behavior like it's it's clear like he has to paint the globalists who he's blaming for all of this as heartless non-caring about human life the totally demonic boom so you do that with the metal and all bright thing then you have to defend uh against the idea that this person who committed the actual crime could have been motivated by anything really oh you kind of have to diffuse that from your conversation um and you can do that by also sort of blaming the globalists sure you know why I question mass shootings because real mass

shootings happen we have a lot of evil sick people in the world but why do mass shootings happen they're statistically still rare but the media hypes them up and so mentally ill people begin to think it's how they become superstars in the old days it was known that whether it was the sears tower or before that the world trade centers or uh the impar states building or the chrysler building in new york that you might go six months when nobody jumped off of it this is in criminology manuals it's it's taught in psychology this is well known information that when one person jumps off the sears tower or the chrysler building or the impar states building or any building that almost always within a few days someone else comes and tries to jump off the

very same building it's it's how copycats work it's how lemmings going off a cliff operate well when you've got hundreds of movies and thousands of tv reports every year and just newspaper articles everywhere about mass shootings and instead of suicide by cop just just go out and shoot a bunch of people so um what alex is doing here when he's talking about is a real thing yeah um but he's kind of close to describing a real thing i would say he's still a little bit off there's a phenomenon that researchers have found where media coverage of notable suicide seems to lead people to emulate the circumstances of the original suicide this is called the werther effect named after a character in girtha's book the sorrows of young werther in the book werther is rejected in love and shoots

himself after the book's release there were reports of young men emulating werther uh though it's hard to tell how much of that reporting is sensationalized in and of itself connecting disconnected cases to the book it was the late 1700s after all and it's hard to say with certainty how much of that is you know accurate yeah whatever the case the phenomenon was named and history has shown that there does seem to be a bit of a connection between high-profile suicides and rising suicide rates this was seen after robin williams took his life when researchers saw on almost 10 increase in suicides over what their model would have predicted this is something that's really almost impossible to prove a causal link between though there's no way uh that demonstrating

interesting patterns that seem to indicate that uh suicide numbers go up after the media covers a suicide there's no way to definitively say that's what's causing it there's a ton of other variables that could be influencing that pattern they're impossible to control for in any ethical experiment that said if alex wants to take the position the coverage of a suicide does trigger copycats i'm not going to fight him too much on it it's worth pointing out however that studies trying to determine if this effect applied to fictionalize portrayals of suicide like in the show 13 reasons why uh they they tried to study that and they found that the results were inconclusive so it's pretty ungrounded for alex to assert that movies and tv shows or the rights favorite boogie man now

video games have any bearing on causing this sort of copycat behavior in an article in scientific americans said that this phenomenon doesn't seem to apply to tv and movies because quote it does appear the public at large are able to distinguish fact from fiction which we know is a struggle for alex yeah one thing i'm going to take a strong issue with here though is that he's trying to make this apply to all phenomenon which i don't think he's in any way established if we take is accepted that high profile suicide can have an effect on suicide rates in the immediate aftermath of news reports about it it doesn't follow that this phenomenon exists for mass shooters it very well may but the research that he's using to justify his claim about suicides does

not extend to mass shooters that's a leap that he's earned he has not earned the right to make is based solely on his own assessment i find the evidence to be pretty overwhelming that there is a copycat phenomenon going on as it relates to uh to mass shootings but i don't believe it's appropriate to say that it's the same phenomenon that's uh is seen as it relates to suicide when you make that simplistic and unfounded leap what you're doing is attempting to whitewash all the other motivations that the shooter may have had none of them matter because all they were doing is there's just another suicidal kid who the media convinced should go shoot up some place that is in in essence the sort of behavior you would expect out of someone conducting a cover-up not

because they were involved in the shooting or anything like that because but because on some level they know that their ideas and the things that they put into the world might have been beyond anything else i find alex's position on this to be absurd and downright offensive if he believes that media coverage of things make them more likely to be copycatted why does he spend so much time salatiously covering any crime and immigrant commits isn't he worried that he'll cause copycat immigrant crimes if he's so worried about this phenomenon why does he obsess about the threat of antifa isn't he concerned that that's going to cause copycats the way he carries out his broadcast doesn't support the argument he's

making here he's absolutely fine engaging in the exact same behavior he's condemning the media for in every single other circumstance that doesn't involve gun violence and there's a very easy to figure out reason why so what is that i think we can guess so uh you've got this deflection you've got you've got this framing uh with the madeline albright quote uh you've got this deflection with uh miss misinterpretation of the copy cat effects that that that people experience and then what you need to do is you need to minimize the situation sure it's bad but it's not that bad yeah so what i'm saying is just in cancun it's all over mexico there's thousands a week getting killed you never hear about it and their lives are just important as the poor

people god rest their souls the 20 people got killed at the ball at walmart they're saying fuck you know paso so you know alex is playing fast and loose here a little bit i think like the way he's talking you could easily get the impression that he's saying that thousands of people are killed in cancun a week which is completely insane there were 540 murders in cancun in 2018 which is way too many uh to be comfortable with but it's far less than thousands a week if he's trying to say that there's thousands of murders a week in mexico that's even an absurd number there were 33341 murders investigations opened in mexico in 2018 or approximately 641 a week again that's much higher number than uh we would like to see but alex's embellishment of these things is super

irresponsible to say that there are thousands of murders a week in cancun or even mexico as a whole is to create an exaggerated image of what's going on in that country ironically if he believes that there are thousands of murders a week uh in a city in mexico or just mexico he's even more of a complete monster for opposing people making refugee claims but that's a separate issue and don't don't need to get into that necessarily and furthermore it's kind of offensive to say that the media doesn't talk about the violence and cartel crime going in mexico uh from my perspective i've seen plenty of coverage of it alex is trying to paint a false equivalence by making an exaggerated completely untrue claim about the murders in mexico and saying uh that that is what the media should

be covering simply as a way of deflecting from people having a very needed conversation about gun violence in our country and again it's pretty simple to see why he would do that i hate that fucking uh oh yeah yeah yeah no you're gonna complain about the mass shooting at waco or at el paso or whatever it is what about in laos a guy was killed yesterday isn't his life as important as and the media is not talking about that what about that what about that dan come at me it's a strategy that's just inherently a trap yeah it it it it makes it so no matter how you reply you either get bogged down into an unwinnable conversation that the person who's trying to bait you into the conversation they also do not care about that at all no not even a little

bit and then the alternative is that they get to paint you as someone who doesn't care about people in foreign countries dying yeah it's possible to care about multiple things simultaneously even passionately yeah it's possible it's war games the only way to win is not to play perhaps so uh we get to the big narrative uh now in this next clip here this is what's going to guide alex's belief that this is a false flag uh that the el paso shooting was set up by the globalists um and then they're using it to demonize trump alex the patriots all that good stuff right they were wearing adidas shoes which everybody knows is the official footwear of the globalist sure that could be that that's that's probably a more interesting theory than what

you're here you're probably this will be the underpinning of it all so up to this point we've got all of the preparation that's needed in order to justify this sort of behavior and now this is the behavior but we're hearing on every sunday news show donald trump did it donald trump alex jones paul joseph watson southern prairie law center has put out the reports within hours of the shooting it happened at like 11 30 in the morning i knew about it at 12 30 i was already working and here came a southern prairie law center article and oh social media showed he liked alex jones and q and on then i noticed it was confirmed that someone was in control of this person's social media and was erasing that he was a democrat and was erasing that his dad gave money

to mass shooting victims and was an anti gunner and was a psychologist at a uh running a psychiatric facility it's always the same and so in a live time and i have the articles i'll cover them they were removing he was a democrat they were removing all the stuff they were putting my name in there i would say that uh when you hear stuff like that you kind of get the sense that alex is kind of eager to be associated i really think i just wrote down remember when you said earlier that he doesn't seem anxious for it never mind yeah i just i just wrote down he's like i really wish i got more headlines saying that i was involved in this he's going out of his way to put himself in the conversation yeah donald trump and me you know two equal people who are part of

this whole situation went on yep even if there's a loose connection between yourself and a shooter like he was your fan there's a way to cover that with dignity and this is not it what alex is doing is trying to deny that the shooter was his fan if he was and then creating a greater conspiracy on top of the whole thing that places this focus squarely on himself this is alex's strategy to make himself the real victim of the shooting more or less which is a monstrous behavior and something he should be deeply ashamed of i really wanted to get to the bottom of this and see if there was any truth to what alex was saying but i was kind of impeded on my ability to do so because there wasn't any coverage of this social media stuff on info wars website which is really where you think the

proof would be if this was a conspiracy that alex is going to put out on his show and yet there was nothing to be found there it took a little bit of digging but i figured out was what was up this is a story about the shooter's my life page for those of you who don't know my life is a website that uses publicly available information about people to create profiles of them it's super fucked up and i hate that i now know that it exists wait wait wait so it's just a data aggregator that creates a profile for you sort of yeah you don't have to have any involvement with it so it can make a profile regardless of whether or not you have ever heard of my life i yeah i believe so after the shooting there were allegations that someone had gone into this uh shooter's my life

page and changed his political affiliation from democrat to republican they'd further added references to him being a qanon believer an nra supporter and an incel obviously this was the work of leftists trying to cover up that this guy was one of them and then they're gonna leave that noble the noble donald trump holding the bag sure the problem is that the shooter didn't even have a profile on my life until after the shooting one was made for him in the right after the first news broke with his identity and when it was first put up there was no political affiliation listed after that someone edited to say that he was a democrat with no evidence provided they also put his religious beliefs and ethnicity as antifa then people started editing it to say that he was a republican and

into qanon and honestly from there it got even wilder people just kept editing it yeah this became a wikipedia entry each each Donald trump is a national hero edit donald trump is not edit yeah yeah at the point that snopes decided to stop following the edits to the profile his bio said quote registered democrat and his political affiliation was listed as republican yeah so it kind of come to a truce sure sure fine this is a case of dum-dums on both sides trying to edit this guy's profile in order to make him fit a specific box that they wanted to fit my life is a super easily edited website and they explicitly say about the information on the site quote we cannot fully guarantee its accuracy the point here is that even in ideal circumstances my life is not a

place where real information should be pulled from unless it can be verified elsewhere alex is pretending that it is his social media page and it was scrubbed when in reality it was a page created by people wanting to portray him as antifa that was then edited he's reporting the second part but not the first because alex jones hates context he loves narratives it doesn't matter if they're true it just matters if they sell also here's the story that alex is spinning about the shooter's father the father is a mental health counselor who treated people with post traumatic stress disorder about a year or so back the veterans administration had referred a guy to his clinic to help with his ptsd which was the result of a man showing up at his door and shooting him

the father had worked with the guy and had set up a go fund me page to help him with the immediate expenses that he was unable to cover on his own this is what alex is making sounds suspicious and it is proof of a conspiracy the fact that his father worked in the mental health field and that he had helped one of his patients setting up a crowdfunding so they wouldn't go bankrupt as a consequence of them being shot legitimately alex is a huge piece of shit there's no two ways about this shouldn't he be in favor of veterans receiving treatment for post traumatic stress disorder shouldn't he be in favor of therapists helping them set up crowdfunding for their bills since alex is so goddamn opposed to the state paying for that shit

think for one second about why he would take these things that he should be in favor of and just put a little tone on them and make them seem suspicious and proof of a conspiracy in this instance and i think you'll pretty easily figure out why he's operating this way why is he operating this way i don't know every time every time you do that i'm gonna wait a beat and then ask you the question so get prepared for that do you see do you see now so you see see how that works you see the narrative that alex is setting up which is that this page was edited to cover up that he was a democrat when in reality the situation is super easily edited page by anybody publicly can do it it wasn't even there before the shooting it's nonsense

pointlessness that shouldn't be addressed it was a propaganda it was an attempt at propaganda then ping-ponged back and forth between people who are editing his page and then that ping-ponging itself is now being used as alex for propaganda to make his spurious claims yeah yeah so that's where we're at it doesn't matter now alex lies explicitly about that my life page but here it is left to change shooter patrick crucius's my life page after saturday's shooting from democrat to republican it'd been up for years that he was a democrat up there for years years all the stuff it's seen now it gets changed after this is our after he's in custody oh boy i'm busy lying thought hey thoughts uh what am i thinking

say that it's me that i made him do this here's a shot right here for tv viewers just just right here so we're no one said you made him do it now i honestly don't know where alex is getting the this page was up for years thing from but he's definitely trying to drive that point home he says it twice in that clip and those weird long pauses are definitely upsetting but it's absolutely not true i was thinking there would be a weird thing for him to make up himself but if he did that would indicate that it's something that's important for him to attach to this story the story of the my life page appears to have been broken by jim hoft at the gateway it has a pretty uh a full encapsulation of the narrative the post on gateway pundit

namely that it asserts without any proof that leftists were the ones who were editing the profile to hide that he was a registered democrat the article in its current form has a correction at the bottom of the page saying that the page the my life page was created after the shooting but it's not correcting any explicit claims that i can find in previous versions of the article like the previous versions didn't allege that it had been up for years the way alex is legitimately can't find uh that claim in any of the places where alex is known to gather his information from obviously i can't possibly know what kind of sick and cheap impulses drive alex to behave the way he does but if i had to guess i would say this is an indication that

he's fully aware at this point when he's reporting this that the page was made after the shooting and uh that whenever whatever troll created it put the page up it was made to make it look like the shooter was democrat and antifa alex needs the perception to be that this page had been up for years because the fact that it hadn't completely destroys his cause for suspicion here it also underlies how easy it is for anyone to edit my life pages if alex's listeners understood the specifics of the situation they would know that there isn't anything suspicious about this it's just trolls on the internet going back and forth editing a meaningless page that the shooter had zero to do with if alex's narratives are to work at all he needs the audience to not

understand the specifics of the situation it's in his best interests that they believe misinformation so that's what he offers them yeah it does have the feel of him like grasping for some kind of lie something and then hitting on the like it's been up for years almost in the moment right and and i wonder if that long pause afterwards was him being like i know that it's not been up or i wonder if it's someone in his ear being like alex yeah that's possible alex that's possible yeah that's that's just not true yeah you're asserting this as fact and you're lying to people yeah yeah yeah you're either indicating that you don't know what you're talking about or you're lying one of the two i would say the the worst that the part of the

voice in his ear would do is alex you made a mistake on that it has not been up for years no way would the producer be like alex quit lying yeah that's their bread and butter yeah but i think even they might realize like alex you're drifting into behaviors that have gotten you sued before like you're not going to get sued about saying that this page had been up for a long time like for years with like direct opposition to reality but that sort of behavior if applied to other areas of this story yeah could get you screwed yeah alex rein it in rein it in i think there might be i hope someone is giving him that call because he's not ready to get in i'll tell you who isn't barns barns is in his ear going like keep on going barns i got

a job coming soon barns i think is smart enough to stay the fuck off air in this aftermath of a tragedy i think he knows like fuck this i'll let alex do this yeah have fun it's so crazy what guests he ends up actually having right right oh god is the newge coming on to say that everybody was fine nope newge is smarter than that fair the people he gets oh boy so alex talks about this how he talked to reporters that he works with on the ad info wars unfair to call them reporters yeah that's his employees yes he had spoken to his underlings about the coverage that they were going to put out about this story and i think he says a little bit too much in this next clip about their intentions and then he just fucking fumbles the ball really hard while trying to

remember past conspiracies so we're punished for really reporting what's going on so i don't know who this guy is but i'm talking to millie weaver and i'm talking to my reporters yesterday afternoon and millie says to me well i'm gonna look and see if his parents are psychologists because you know they're usually the psychologists like she sort of lists in the cases where with a shooter and i'm gonna cover this coming up in aurora remember that colorata said he was under mind control said his family did it to him said that a psychologist did it to him and and it turned out that his psychiatrist was the former head psychiatrist in the air force over a DARPA program that puts brain ships and troops you can't make that up well i remember

that one and yes you can someone can make that oh yeah uh first things first at the end there alex is completely mixing up his narratives about the aurora shooting we covered it back in the 2013 investigation but the narratives about the DARPA program and the air force psychologist uh which are both bullshit on their own are completely different lies it's supposed to be that james holmes was in a DARPA program and got a bunch of money from DARPA and also that his psychologist dr fenton was an air force mind control doctor because alex knows that all the shit he talks about is basically bullshit he doesn't care about being accurate about any of it he cares so little that he doesn't even realize that he's combining two narratives into one also i don't remember mind

control chips being part of the conspiracy back then so i guess it's a later development in the story which also isn't real yeah i mean either i remember the the uh we talked about that pretty very extensively and oh yeah well researched but uh now he's adding some manchurian candidate stuff in there so i think that was always kind of the flavor of it yeah but then also he's lying even about the lie about the jailhouse stuff like that was just comes from a book of a guy who was trying to get like he wrote the book because the state's attorney didn't believe him yeah uh he was trying to like shop for a shorter sentence yeah it's all it's all bullshit um and they said like oh my family did it to me like that's completely that's not even part of the conspiracy back then why are

you doing this add a little add anything you want it's all lies anyways add whatever you need for the narrative you're trying to push but it's such a lack of professionalism even within the area of lying right that's why he's got the greatest job in the world it's crazy that doesn't even need to keep his lies straight it's crazy that even people who believe him and listen to him don't notice and be like hold on you are sloppy it's a doomsday cult saying we're gonna go down on december 15th 2003 and then when the date comes the cult stays and he's like i misread it now it's four thousand they don't give a fuck what it is they're there for the fun and now they're excited to learn that james holmes uh his family yeah exactly oh and that proves that i didn't know his

families are like when they're psychologists it's dangerous yeah so i think the most important thing here is that what uh what alex is describing oh and he's talking about with melly weaver that's a textbook case of confirmation bias like before setting out to do any of the research millie weaver is told alex that she feels like a lot of mass shooters parents are psychologists she's entering the research with a conclusion already decided she's not setting out to find out if mass shooters have psychologist parents more often than would be expected she's setting out to find a few examples that fit her decided talking point then she's going to make a propaganda video uh presenting it is if it means anything i legitimately don't even care to engage with that shit no not even a little

such a transparently dishonest way to try and make an argument that what uh like whatever the ensuing product is it's meaningless and ultimately whatever a bottle i could make would be equally meaningless i could point out to you tons of mass shooters whose parents weren't psychologists but ultimately that wouldn't really have proved any greater point other than to show that the examples that millie or alex would be using would be cherry picked intentionally to make their argument as opposed to being the product of thorough and methodical analysis of case studies i feel like climate change isn't happening scientist here is a giant bag of money prove to me that climate change isn't happening right the only reason that somebody would operate this way um uh the way that

alex is clearly describing millie is operating is because they're trying to create a distraction absolutely anything to not talk about guns anything to not talk about radicalization both in terms of right wing shit and in terms of misogyny all of these conversations are too threatening to the underpinnings of the world that they profit off of so to defend that toxic hellscape you just pitch the theory that all these shooters are the children of therapists and set out to find a few examples to make a video about this is pathetic and transparent behavior um and uh lame yeah lame i you know these people are such psychopaths at this point i i always wonder if like uh mich maca like alex jones goes home and looks at rex and goes i'm helping to make sure

that you might die in a mass shooting i'm helping to make sure that the next match mass shooting raise the risk yeah yeah i'm i'm making sure that another mass shooting is going to occur that's my job today today is the day that i say one more mass shooting at least uh and i don't know man it's uh it's they just don't feel well this is where we get back to that what if question yeah it's like what if you're like what if you're just full of shit about all this what are you bringing about what another mass shooting what anyway um in this next clip alex discusses the three shooters from the past week or so uh and he says something about them and then realizes i should not have said that mike down for this this is if there's a moment of levity in this it's alex's

response to realizing what road he's almost about to go down we've got the garlic shooter the opasso shooter and the dating shooter these guys coming out of a cloning tank i mean what the hell's going on with these boys that long pause i think is an indication that what he had just done has been like these are all young white men he's like look at these good point look at these three shooters from the last week they all look the same oh oh what characteristics do they share oh no oh no oh no oh no i know it's not funny to laugh about the you know these people being shooters but alex's like his whole thing is so built on the defense of particularly white males he realized he accidentally stumbled on the

truth if i can if i continue to follow this thought yeah i am going to be like oh look at all these young white men hey uh melly there's three these three guys look a lot of like do you want to start going back through a lot of these mass shooters and see if they have a lot of things in oh we're going to have to go to break melly you can't make videos anymore yeah melly who um so uh that's that's kind of like the you know that's the silliness of his nonsense yeah um so i think that alex realizes he's got to even further defend uh what he's doing and his behavior and so he again appeals um to the past and other things that have happened so you see it's worth it to the left to kill people to lie about wmd's to stage things and so if they lie about dead babies

and incubators or they stage other events where real people die but somebody else did it to get us on board to their agenda then it's normal in fact you should question everything and they caught the left we'll cover this next segment going on to all this supposed shooter social media where he was a democrat and all that and changing it over to alex jones paul joseph watson keelanon and donald trump and we have all the screenshots from the wayback machine they don't even care they're getting caught so i mean that's all just the my life stuff yeah yeah i think that that clip very neatly demonstrates alex jones manipulates people it's pretty complex so i'm gonna take this piece by piece the first element is the completely deceptive argument

that he uh that he's just questioning an event that's bullshit he's building a case that these shootings are false flags and he knows that's what he's doing because his shit is weak and he doesn't want to get sued he hides behind this why is it wrong to question things for a shit whenever all of his reporting is guiding listeners to a clearly planned conclusion that this is a false flag and that is the work of a true coward the second element is the basic argument he's using to justify the act of questioning things which again is not what he's doing he is misinforming he argues that because something in the past was deceptive it stands to reason that all future things could be and honestly i don't have a problem with that argument it's a basic

position of skepticism that's probably healthy the problem comes when we realize again that alex is not just questioning things he's building misinformation narratives if he were questioning things he would approach the situation from a position of caution and a hesitance to report anything definitively instead what do we see we see alex creating a talking point that all these mass shooters are the kids of psychologists who are probably secretly working for DARPA and misleading his audience about the edits that were made to a my life page that the shooter had nothing to do with this is not questioning this is misinformation propaganda meant to guide his listeners away from the aspects of the story that are threatening to his business

his worldview and his revenue stream now he's only able to justify his argument by employing the third element of his manipulation and that is on full display here and that is the complete meaninglessness of terms the examples he comes up with the babies and incubators thing and weapons of mass destruction who is responsible for those lies the first was an excuse to get into the first gulf war and the second was a pretext for the war in iraq the first was a george hw bush administration and the second was w bush and his administration ah but they're both globalists well but see that's the thing in this argument alex has defined those two republican administrations as the left yeah this is incredibly manipulative framing to call the bush administrations the left

is to give up on even the slimmest pretense that you're talking about anything real the left is just another name for the globalists or the deep state for alex now so whatever anybody you know whatever anybody he doesn't like did something hey it's all them it's the left this is how children think and it's really stupid to your 45 year old man carrying on like this it's embarrassing um but here's the thing there's no non-embarrassing way for alex to make the arguments that he's trying to make oh no absolutely so he has to he has to do things like this and move around quick enough and pray that people don't take the time to recognize what he's doing these are tricks he's using tricks they're very very clear and effective unfortunately yeah yeah they're very distracting

yep because you almost didn't even catch that uh the left part um i mean i just i just filter out whatever it is he thinks like if he says the left i'm like it doesn't fucking matter if he says globalist it doesn't fucking matter it's anybody he feels like hating today is part of antifa that's it that's fair yeah so um in this next clip we get to alex playing a special report that is about how he predicted the el paso shooting uh in advance um as we said he did uh yeah we very much said it when it uh when he was building those narratives way back when that he is pre justifying uh a mass shooting being a false flag well certainly yeah but he did he i as i understand at some some of the clips i had uh heard he did predict something was going to happen in el paso

but i cannot explain that entirely and i will over the course of the show um so i don't believe that he gets credit for being psychic um but here is a bit of that uh special report two days after alex jones predicts that false flags are going to be carried out and blamed on the qanon movement and american patriots lone gunman patrick crucius is arrested for the el paso massacre his social media page my life was changed to say that he was a follower of qanon and his designation as a registered democrat was changed to republican so you can see that this my life thing is just an essential yeah yeah yeah this is huge it's everywhere throughout the these both of these episodes it's the bedrock of why are we questioning things well because

we're misleading you about this right um i i do not understand why you would do that unless you are a fucking idiot well like that that whole like two days before this mass shooting happened alex jones predicted that a false flag would right so you didn't do so you knew that some shit was going to happen and you didn't do a goddamn thing about it does he yells about it that so the fuck what that's not a that's not something you should take pride in i predicted that uh that's fucking stupid he doesn't care no of course he doesn't see how that works see how that works well the reality is that alex says that there's false flags coming literally every day yeah so it's not that big a deal for him to have there was a propaganda narrative that was going around

that involved antifa and el paso right and that's the reason why alex said el paso when he was talking about a coming false flag so it's just his normal there's gonna be a false flag summer of rage it happens every single day yeah and it just so happened that he was in the middle of working on this other propaganda narrative about antifa coming to el paso so it's it's a confluence of events that is it creates the appearance that alex is on to something when in reality it's the most normal thing for to expect from his show yeah and it's not that he has a very strong predictive abilities so in this next clip there's a there's a the globalist created qanon i don't know if you know that i did not know this is a new development this i was gonna say didn't

weren't we we've been pinging back and forth from liking to disliking qanon right for a while now not you and i no alex alex certainly not no last i remember hearing he was anti but then he also thought that there was some good information yeah yeah yeah out of it yeah i don't specifically contracts uh or whatever that wasn't for you no that was for that's right those those four chan gotcha um but qanon was on eight chan and uh bye bye i think i don't know i don't know what the status is but i think it's gone anyway um alex thinks that the globalists created qanon and there's a reason and they're cutting into his business nope this is a great conspiracy if i were if i were like grading alex's conspiracies i'd be like you sat down and thought about this

for a minute at least this one's up it's not good it's still stupid but okay like compared to some of the other like weak bullshit he tries this is at least like all right you at least have a cause and effect here and i was just thinking about man antifa is getting ready to launch more terror attacks how are they going to launch these attacks that have the media cover it up but then act like it's part of a civil war they're going to need some type of right wing group that they can cut out and blame but because libertarians and christians and conservatives know not to be offensively violent because we're law abiding and because we understand they're trying to set us up we've never taken the bait even when antifa attacks us but if you've got a cube movement it's perfect

to have globalist informants and foundation operatives and deep staters that are in the FBI particularly go out reach out wind up people believing they're working with the president to attack a dam or to go kill the gambino crime boss or to kill their brother with a sword or whatever and it becomes this giant cauldron now because they identify whether they can then be set up and then that can be the excuse to see oh it's not just antifa no no no q did this see that's a good conspiracy and it's really what he should have been saying all along more or less like because the vagueness and like the complete mystery and an anonymous aspect of q is the sort of thing you can paint whatever you want on it right right right i think alex didn't do this

before because he was afraid of losing too much of his his audience who were into q yeah and of course jerome coursey back when he worked for info wars was writing a fucking book about q right right till till that would south yeah but uh yeah i think i think that this is the sort of thing that you can you can get some mileage out of because it does it achieves the goal that you wanted to achieve right which is um it creates a justification for all right wing violence right more or less you can just attribute it to that it's all the left actually right all real stuff yeah is the left yeah and then all the rest of it is also the left but they're doing it through cubanon uh because of the mysterious anonymous nature of it yeah yeah yeah all the foundation

people can hide and it's i mean it's really it's the greatest gift alex could have ever had he's not i don't know why he hasn't used it yet i will give you one theory on why he hasn't used it uh because he just said that they they convinced them that they're uh convinced them into believing they're working with the president oh sure so that kind of suggests that i might be projecting it's very easy to uh work with the it believe that you're working with the president while committing white terrorism it while committing terrorist acts i guess it seems it seems like you know it definitely does yeah it seems like it would be easy alex's conception to trick yourself into thinking that you were doing uh that for the president based on everything the president says

i'm clearly working with the president which alone is a bad sign yeah um i would say also that it like he doesn't want to attack people who imagine that they're working for the president because it opens too many boxes right for him about his uh tenuous association with the white house yeah he needs people to believe that they're working for god and uh vengeance is his say at the lord and then alex is in constant contact with the white house absolutely he doesn't want to call that into question um so there's a lot of stupid shit that alex has been saying so far i think uh i think i can say that with some confidence um but you should know that he's very smart i really don't think but do you know what why he's smart uh providence he studies no

that can't be it so the study wasn't on his four ways to learn well i study things i i watch what's happening and i saw the fbi director ray come out that's a deep stator and say white people are terrorists they're striking everywhere they're incredibly dangerous even though the statistics really don't even show that he gave out false statistics they ignore all the quote minority crime against whites that is exploding because the media is promoting it we're not saying the average minority is a bad person but the media is promoting his attacks and then i saw all the fbi reports coming out saying the conspiracy theorists that say the clintons are involved in child trafficking why they're gonna launch terror attacks that was clearly a cover for all the jeffrey ebsdie news

that's coming out and then i saw the fbi come out and say that is the clintons that still kind of run most of it and say that q anon's gonna launch terror attacks with alex jones and i went okay it's clear antifa says they're going to uh el paso they said they're gonna blow up ice facilities they're gonna need a pretext to make it look like that's legitimate and lo and behold it happens two days later did they blow up ice facilities while we weren't paying attention no i didn't see that so you literally can't see things like that what he just said in that last clip on this show where you're trying to hide behind the i'm just questioning things defense what alex jones did right there was make a gigantic conspiracy in order to maintain his absurd and dangerous worldview

which is not the same thing as being skeptical just imagine all the things that alex needs to substantiate to make that clip mean anything he needs to provide real crime statistics he feels the fbi is covering up he needs to validate his contention that the crime statistics are fake he needs to substantiate how lowering media coverage of ebsdine matters at all in terms of his prosecution he needs to substantiate his claim that the media is promoting minority crime against whites he needs to demonstrate the fbi director rey as a deep stator he needs to prove that the clintons run most of the fbi he needs to specify what most of the fbi means he needs to show a citation for where the fbi said that q anon was going to launch terror attacks with alex

jones he needs to show when antifa said they were going to blow up ice facilities he needs to show literally any connection between the el paso shooting and antifa uh coming to el paso he needs to do all of these things and he can do all of those things in one second hold on dan jangling keys jangling keys he just doesn't have the time on his show because it's not four hours oh wait it is four oh it is four hours oh all right jangling keys until he demonstrates or proves any of this stuff it's all just rambling bullshit based on nothing none of that means anything that was a one minute clip and there's like 10 unsubstantiated claims that he throws out in order to build his notion that the el paso shooting was done to create a justification for antifa to attack people this

is shitty work and i need to be clear about two things one i don't need to robot any of this it's all meaningless ramblings rolling forth on the head of a paranoid man who knows his scam is running out of gas i don't give a shit about trying to demonstrate why this theory is stupid it makes no sense two this is not questioning things this is a narrative that alex has built both from his own imagination and things he probably found on fourchan or eightchan which he's now passing off as the official unofficial story of what happened i know this is probably getting repetitive but it needs to be said over and over again alex is not questioning things he's creating and disseminating talking points for misinformation campaigns which is all he does

he's creating facebook arguments he's creating you post somebody post something ironically he's not on facebook no exactly but somebody post something like we got to stop gun violence and then here's a study and then somebody goes well it's fucking pointless and stupid and it just keeps us from doing anything he's trying to give a little bit of like he's trying to disseminate talking points yeah exactly that's that's all it is yep so one of the things that alex kept bringing up i think i've mentioned this already is that the idea that prior to the shooting in el paso antifa had announced that they were going to lay siege to el paso burn down ice facilities and try to start a civil war i really don't remember the official spokesperson for antifa

bringing that out on account of one he doesn't exist it's antitifa and two what are you fucking talking about yeah i mean for most of the episode he's talking about i just kind of let it slide because i know that alex is full of shit especially when it comes to railing about antifa yeah he just makes shit up and even when it is based on something it's based on some random post on a message board full of nazis there's a deeply unpleasant user interface so i don't want to dig through and try and find the fuck he's talking about but after he keeps bringing it up i was like fuck all right let's see what he's talking about did antifa plan to invade el paso all bite this is all based on a right wing misinformation campaign that mostly traces

back to andy no the completely neutral and very legitimate journalist who helped fuel the concrete milkshake's narrative a little while back on july 29th andy posted a couple pictures of flyers put out by a group called border resistance uh advertising their upcoming tour including stops in santa cruz oakland minneapolis chicago and then their last stop in el paso on september first andy posted these flyers with the commentary quote antifa is leading a border resistance militancy training tour that will converge on a 10 day siege of el paso the promotional image shows border enforcement officers being killed and government property fire bombed from there the narrative got rolling people just started to mirror andy's framing of the event fox news used andy's

tweet as a source so they could write a story about how antifa was going to start a terror campaign in el paso and now the narrative is found its way to alex uh and that's what he was basing his prediction that there was going to be a false flag in el paso on according to them this was antifa and they were coming to bomb ice buildings in el paso unfortunately all of that is right wing propaganda bullshit the website for border resistance clearly lists the groups involved and none of them are known to be associated with antifa which is a stupid framing of the point since antifa isn't a centralized group in any meaningful way one of the main groups involved the hecate society said quote we are not offering militancy training we're having educational

workshops about what's happening on the border and how to work better inside of communities it's not militancy training in any way which was andy's framing of it well not reality but that's because they're a preempting uh uh or or at least co-opting or maybe just full on projecting that that's what they're doing well of course they're they're creating militant operations so they have to attribute to the left a military operation in order to justify them creating a military operation which is what alex is doing in that clip that i said was a fairly decent conspiracy exactly at least cause and effect wise right uh so the hecate society said that the image that they used on the poster uh the one of protesters shooting arrows at an ice castle uh was meant

to satire and not to imply any kind of intention of violence and that they were going to change it to avoid any further misunderstanding which i would point out is an intentional misunderstanding yeah and fuck that fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you the reality the reality of the situation is that an immigrant rights group was planning a tour where they would have workshops about how to best respond to worsening situations in their communities and around their communities and they chose a possibly ill advised picture for their flyer from their imaginative imaginative shitheads like andy no ran with it and created a whole narrative of planned terror campaigns and decided to call this group antifa because it fit their pre-existing narratives this story was a lie

but it didn't get a ton of traction until after the shooting in el paso at which point it could be incorporated into a larger conspiracy it's fascinating really now it started out as just a way to smear and obstruct the organizing capabilities of non-white peoples trying to protest conditions at the border and ultimately through the worst possible coincidences it turned into a narrative that alex is using to argue that the el paso shooting is a false flag why hey that's that's just synergy dan that's uh in their world a uh happy accident i guess that um uh that dr seuss book oh the places you'll go comes to mind yeah i don't know why yeah this conspiracy narrative when it's born you don't know where you're gonna go

it's uh it's bad do you see now yeah i see how it works um so in this next clip alex uh does something he this is another really essential in uh framing for him whenever he's trying to craft the presentation of these uh horrible events as false flags there is something that he he has to do this is i don't know how to set this up but this is important it's their pre-hype that's so obvious oh my god the nazis are going to be attacking any man if they're everywhere they're trump and then it happens so what he's talking about with the pre-hype there is that fbi memo that came out that was talking about conspiracy theory related uh violence is a rising threat right alex jones is a painfully stupid guy but this is one of those

moments where you see how he's been pretty smart in crafting a worldview where the exact consequences people warn his rhetoric has can be recontextualized as proof of the very conspiracies he talks about alex is absolutely a stochastic terrorist he demonizes particular groups and individuals he disagrees with in such a way uh that he he absolutely has to have reasonable expectation that someone might be inspired to hurt or kill them yeah i don't believe an adult could not understand the connection between rhetoric and possible inspiration yeah between this strategy and the leaderless resistance organization of the right wing extremist cells it's very easy to inspire lone wolf terrorists to action all while keeping any real fingerprints or concrete connections

to a minimum it strains my credulity to imagine alex hasn't been aware of this phenomenon for a long time because of the lies he told about his trip to the bohemian grove he inspired a man to show up they're heavily armed intending to kill grove attendees who alex had convinced him were there worshiping the devil and possibly even sacrificing children to malik 37 year old richard mccaslin calling himself the phantom patriot entered the grove explicitly hoping for a shootout he told the san francisco chronicle quote i was expecting armed resistance and i would have fired back if i was fired upon when sheriff's deputies found him he was armed with quote a double barreled shotgun assault rifle hybrid a two foot long sword a 45 caliber pistol a crossbow

a knife and a handmade bomb launcher handmade bomb launcher that seems just like too much to carry i would also guess you know the handmade bomb launcher might not have been affected i really kind of hope should that have been field tested i imagine if he had used it we wouldn't have had to worry about him anymore is kind of how i feel about that he would not have been uh successful in the handmade bomb launcher situation quite possible yeah in court mccaslin testified that he was inspired to do this from watching alex's documentary dark secrets about bohemian grove so he quote spent a year collecting weapons and staking out the grove he said quote i was acting on reports that inside the bohemian club were incidents of child abuse and human sacrifice

those weren't reports he was acting on they were alex's propaganda having its intended goal the story is honestly a pathetic tale from this article of san francisco chronicle quote mccaslin was wearing a bulletproof vest blue fatigues with phantom patriots spelled out in red letters across the chest and a rubber skeleton mask when he crept into the grove fuck you cosplaying pieces of shit fuck off he quickly found himself uh hopelessly lost and bouncing off trees in the pitch dark after his flashlight went out fucking good feeling almost silly he said he felt his way into a cabin flopped down on a cot and went to sleep the next morning mccaslin said he discovered the club's giant owl idol and would have blown it up if he

had explosives instead he placed an old testament verse from leviticus at the base of the statue alone with no enemy or anybody else in sight mccaslin decided to set fire to the camp's mess hall but sprinklers quickly extinguished the flames what a what a loser oh you're pathetic it's kind of funny the mental image of him going in and thinking he's about to get into a gunfight and then yeah like what like his flashlight goes out and he's just like oh oh i would go to bed yeah paul blart white terrorist like it's uh it's it's goof it's goofy but i mean it it's goofy with a murder intent behind it it's really scary kind of goofy yeah mccaslin did all that in 2002 alex had to have known as early as then that what he was doing was playing with fire and he

doesn't care he knows the consequences of his actions he knows what could happen and he knows what he's doing to people and it just doesn't matter to him alex knows he's not the only person who has this effect on their audience he knows that plenty of right wing terror cells exist in this country because he often interviews people from them he had has steward roads on from oath keepers a ton over the years is that gavin mcginnis from the proud boys on a ton he even pathetically tried to debate david duke on his show he knows this ecosystem exists that he's a part of it and that there are people who are much more dangerous even than him he knows that this country has a right wing violence program problem and he's known at his

whole career he knows that if the right law enforcement bodies started taking that problem seriously he's completely fucked even forgetting about possible legal consequences of his actions that could come i don't know how that would work but you gotta be kind of worried it's a hypothetical thing but even leaving that aside if society started having the right conversation about the nature of this form of inspiring terrorists he knows that his business model doesn't work anymore so he preemptively attacks any attempt by law enforcement to even look at the problem rationally we saw this with the mayak report back in 2009 and we see it here again as the fbi is released a report discussing the connection between conspiracy theory and the

growing terrorist threat in this country he has to attack these things and pray they go away because it's his only shot at self-preservation yeah it's exactly like the uh gun lobbies getting a bill passed that says it's illegal to investigate gun violence you know like that's a huge win that's a huge win for them and a huge loss for the fucking continued existence of humanity and here's where the craft of it comes in jordan he could easily just say that they're trying to make us look bad uh and he does that sometimes but the way he frames it here is gorgeous um the fbi put out this report about conspiracy theorists and terrorism and then someone committed a terrorist mass shooting a little while later well one might look at that and say that the mass shooting

validates the warning of the fbi report and demonstrates that this is a problem we should be taking seriously and should have taken seriously long ago alex goes the other direction the fbi report was pre-hype for the shooting so when it happened it would be blamed on people like alex sure this is self-protection this is a man who knows that the world that he's helped create the world of paranoid anti-government extremists is one where this is going to be uh there's gonna be way more violence in the coming weeks and months most likely the only way to continue to own the market space that he does as this world worsens is to do everything possible to make sure that law enforcement doesn't take this issue seriously and the best way to do that

is to frame every attempt to take it seriously as a piece of the false flag shootings themselves honestly this is pathetic and for where i'm sitting all its signals is fear in 2009 alex wasn't afraid of the mayak report he saw it as a ratings bonanza his show has changed a lot since then though and now a report like this coming from the fbi it seems like it terrifies him yeah and i think it should because i think his show has changed i think i think i think that uh i like it maybe in 2009 you could make an argument that fbi making a report um like the mayak report doesn't really affect alex it doesn't really yeah no it was first of all it was only a descriptive report it wasn't prescriptive in any way but even if it were it wouldn't really involve

him it was about actual militias it was about actual extremist cells so like that is just red meat for him this i feel it seems very different it it seems like he recognizes that all right this is an actual threat now yeah i and his show exists in such a way that like he is now kind of what they're talking about oh yeah no absolutely now granted he's not in that memo by name at all but either way no they i mean in in the wake of uh what was it the Nebraska GOP the representative who was like hey dudes we gotta stop with this whole like let's kill immigrants thing and the GOP party there was like register as a democrat you're out it's kind of like wow you guys are all in on terrorism you know there's no if you're kicking people out for saying please stop

inciting terrorism that kind of suggests that you're a terrorist party or at least you just don't care or at least you just don't care which is i i don't know i i'm in some ways worse maybe you know yeah yeah i think from a from a moral standpoint yeah so i think uh that alex is a little bit afraid of this memo i think it's possible um i sense his tone being a little bit different um but i also have a strong suspicion that he also just hasn't even read it exclusive fbi document warren's conspiracy theorists are the new domestic terror yahoo thursday q and on alex jones and it says anyone claiming there's pedophile rings with the clinton's actually says that actually says that so they're talking about you alex i'm positive based on that riff that alex hasn't read the fbi threat

assessment that came out uh at the end of last week but he's using it as a basis for saying that this whole weekend's of shootings was a globalist false flags yeah uh where he's using it as like this was the pre-hype they got it going this report came out uh it was the pre-hype as alex saying then the shootings happened conspiracy what this fails to take into account is the fbi didn't decide to release the report when it did it was written in may 2019 and it was clearly the product of a bunch of research considering that it covers extremist actions from january 2008 to the present the document was released when it was because that's when yahoo news obtained it and printed it to assert that the timing as a conspiracy is to claim that prior to may the

globalists knew that these three dudes were going to commit mass shootings when they did so they would know when to leak the report to yahoo it's a completely absurd thing to think when you actually take a second to stop and think about what alex is implying i mean unless you're also including that they were already planning the attacks and so of course they knew when the three people were going to cause these mass shootings right still crazy yeah no no don't get me wrong still crazy i agree but that's the only way it implies such a bigger conspiracy than what it sounds like at first when alex is pitching it yeah coming out of his mouth it sounds like no i guess that makes sense the report came out and then there were shootings right but what that

would require is insane i'm certain that alex didn't read that report mostly because he's just completely lying about what's in it at no point do they say that anyone who believes in conspiracies is a domestic threat and the report doesn't mention clinton or alex once if you read the report i do think that alex has every reason to be scared by it quote the fbi assesses in some cases anti-government identity based and fringe political conspiracy theories very likely encourage the targeting of specific people places and organizations thereby increasing the risk of extremist violence against such target the fbi is mostly talking about qanon but i think that sounds pretty much sums up how i feel about alex in the present day yep so i can't disagree with them

so they don't even get rid of the word fringe from there this report is a threat assessment and it assesses the threat posed by anti-government identity based and fringe political conspiracy theories to be a real one welcome to the party fbi it's probably too late to do anything about it and i do not trust the fbi to follow through on this not even a little bit but it's a positive sign i'll reserve judgment on this until we see more of how things play out but for now i'm gonna treat this as it is an internal memo that doesn't necessarily change anything yeah the uh the who was it the guy was like we're we don't want we're discouraged from doing anything about white nationalist terrorists because we don't want trump to feel like we're attacking his base like that's a

simple encapsulation of america right that's it it's a bummer yep so the main narrative i would say that alex is selling a lot of these things the fbi memo the talking about the babies and incubators weapons of mass destruction madeline all bright stuff a lot of that is justification the main narrative is that the my life profile was changed yes that's the big piece they changed it from democrat to republican to cover the tracks blah blah blah that's his smoking you might as all be antifa yeah so that's one and then number two is that his dad worked in psychiatry or in psychology enough for me proven so alex gets back to that second narrative now the idea of shooters having uh parents who were in the psych business um this isn't this isn't good yesterday on the

phone with my reporters and i and literally we're like yeah let's see if the family are working in the psychiatric business because it's always that and maybe it's just an anomaly you know maybe it's just that because you know document camshaft place here's here's some of these articles this is out of psychology today harvard's experiment on the unabomber cia mind control he fails to provide any other examples of a mass shooter whose parents were psychologists or psychiatrists yeah but one of them was the unabomber so what does that even have to do with anything well he well he bombed uh universities and his parents put him in mk ultra uh i mean you know it was a summer program and they didn't want to deal with him while he wasn't in school like

that's the only thing that makes sense to me fair enough it's like boarding school the mk ultra program so you got um you got that which is great because he's saying that there's multiple examples he doesn't have any examples then he jumps over to distracting you with like look over here right may i tell you about my friend the jangling keys jangling keys um and then he skips from the unabomber over to the aurora shooter james holmes and he's already completely fucked up his conspiracies from uh 2013 about this and he goes even farther for it like he really is adding a ton to that conspiracy now this is an emergency situation man you gotta you gotta throw everything in the kitchen sink yeah you understand the aurora shooter told gelmates i was drugged up i've been

electro shocked i'm in a DARPA program and i blacked out and i don't know what happened but please get me out of here they're gonna kill me it turned out he his dad runs the DARPA nasa human brain interface with computer program including electrodes in the brain that was 12 years ago wherever was that happened you can't make that then they what what what is he talking about yeah you can't make that stuff up dan you can't assume if you just google who his dad is you'll find that he's the head of the nasa brain interdimensional travel project of uh uh 2028 that wasn't that wasn't part of the narrative like that wasn't part of the conspiracy theories at all back when alex was going over this stuff and also that 12 years ago timeline doesn't work out

because that would have been 2007 and that was before the shooting that shooting took place in 2012 yeah so the aurora gunman james holmes his dad his name was robert holmes he uh testified at his son's trial and in the course of the investigation a lot of information became publicly available about him he was a retired financial analyst working in the field of credit card nasa he was a nasa financial credit analyst he did not work for nasa in mind melding or whatever the fuck alex is rambling about his mother arlene was a nurse so that's in the healthcare field nurse a financial analyst to the stars i don't think that's what alex is talking about doubt there's a large chasm between nasa mind control expert and registered nurse okay uh

uh let me try and bridge that with uh darpa darpa darpa i think what's going on here is really simple actually and it might demonstrate how stupid alex jones is and how dumb he thinks his listeners are there's another guy named robert holmes who was an amateur astronomer who was a subject of some human interest stories uh that it came out in 2007 which is 12 years ago just in the time frame of what alex is talking about so he's got some shitty googlers working for him and that's what we're doing now that's where we're living now that's the world we're living in so this other robert holmes was so good at watching the skies that nasa gave him a grant to do it full time so he could quit his day job which led to a lot of feel good press around it because it was

this guy who just was passionate right about astronomy right and nasa was like you're so good at this we want you to be able to do it on your own right um but as a job which is so cool that is very cool i i man with the telescope should really look into that bruce sees all yeah yeah no nasa grants for him i'm doubtful honestly this might be generous of me to assume that alex is talking about this like it legitimately might be that he just made this up but entirely pause enough details are similar same name as his dad time frame being like relevant to like when the this grant right story was coming about there are enough coincidences there to uh to give you a pause before dismissing it as a as a an outright coincidence but whatever the case it's not true of the aurora shooter

this is alex just talking shit that's fucking stupid financial analyst irritating yep so um alex in this next clip we already heard him at the beginning of the episode say he doesn't know what's going on um and he repeats that and then gets close to what might be what do you want to call it flippant libel okay all right flippant slander okay so i don't know what's going on i just know oh this the shooter's dad was ptsd expert had a two-year degree but was above a bunch of psychiatrists with 10 years of education running pentagon programs in dallas oh okay well why is it always that well why why why why is oh but daddy's also a new age guru it's always the same like sandusky's a new age guru see what i'm sure there's nothing going on here

everything's fine nothing to look at here anymore i feel like what he's heavily implying is some sort of like he abused his son or mind controlled him like i think i would i would assume he's trying to describe him as having like fucking his i mean if you're going to compare him to sandusky yeah that's the only why why else because he's a good football coach like what are you fucking doing yeah i it's close there's no other thing he's known for other than being a pent state football coach 100 percent there's no other thing but i'm saying i think alex is real close to that line here like if he continues down this path he's going to be behaving in the exact same way as he did towards the family members of victims of uh sandy hook yeah and countless other things

i think someone around him better stop him i i don't don't don't slander us come on come on is it good give me one give me one so the shooter's dad had uh and does have a master's degree which is all his line of work requires he apparently also practiced some non-traditional medicine which is why alex is calling uh him a guru right all this is complete bullshit and alex needs to calm the fuck down pretending that a veterinarian and chiropractor uh pretending they were actual doctors is what bought him a house so you can take that tone and shove it right up his ass i don't give a fuck about your impugning this guy's uh mental health credentials uh chiropractors have to have a do they even have to have there's a special degree yeah yeah that's a that's an

issue but it's it's it's more legitimate than oh for sure for sure than like a homeopath yeah yeah also are a natural path whatever the fuck also i found the article that alex is reading there uh it's it's on the inquisitor and he just doesn't know how to read uh this is really a big problem he's saying that the father was over pentagon programs in dalis but the actual sentence that he was reading was quote uh that uh the the dad was quote a facility director of da pa psychiatric programs in dalis dappa alex thought it said no no no no no no no no no no no no no alex thought it's no no no no no that's too stupid that's too stupid that's too stupid i don't know i know it's true it is but that's too stupid it said dappa and he thought it said dappa

that's so stupid dappa stands for drug and alcohol program advisor because he works in addiction medicine works in addiction alex is legitimately the most embarrassing person to study in the world you always want there to be something interesting at the root of his lies but sometimes he just doesn't know how to cold read yeah this is embarrassing alex lame shit if you are listening you are a cowardly moron you fucking piece of shit so in this next clip alex gets a guest i haven't heard this guy on before but man he has got the lamest voice okay i hate to critique people for their their voice because a lot you know a lot of that you can't really control i would never critique him for his voice if this wasn't a completely fake voice okay i just wanted

to bring up one thing i have yet to find a shooter and obviously we're still learning about these two nut cases from the last 24 hours but i've yet to find a shooter who was not on ssri's or some form of brain altering chemical in the short time that i've been following this i'm sure in your 25 years you have yet to see a single shooter who did not have some kind of brain altering chemicals shrinking their grain i mean that's it and almost always their parents are psychologists are in so now we've got that reinforced so alex is really crushing it with the big name relevant guests this day uh these days this is a guy named tom pappert uh i'm guessing that robert barnes thought the block was too hot and count dankula was busy so alex got tom pappert to come in this

is uh this pappert guy he runs a twitter page called the honest media and it is a ghost town it's just dumb maga retweets being spammed out to his less than 400 followers i guess he's relevant here because he created a facebook page called god emperor trump which seems healthy uh i don't like that uh i would like him to be eaten by sandworms so there's something similar there his linkedin page has a bio on it and it's just quote as seen on the alex jones show and then in parentheses lol i'm not sure what the lol is supposed to mean there but whatever ah man you guys gotta figure out humor yeah the right is not doing well tom pappert has that dumb maga radio voice i've come to hear so often from these guys with aspirations of starting their own media

outlets on youtube i swear that vocal cadence he's putting on is all over the place it's like these dumb dumps don't realize that people doing the impressions of the eighties and nineties dj bullets they're making fun of it yeah i know it's not like hey that voice is cool hey we're gonna be out here out the way like yeah no you're fucking stupid anyway tom pappert opens up his appearance on the show by saying that he's never heard of one single case where a shooter was not on psych meds and to that i say you should probably shut the fuck up because all you're really saying is that you've never looked into it yeah it's so manipulative to be like i don't know anything about this topic but you should probably accept my blanket assertion about it why isn't anybody who's uh supporting

islam why aren't they coming out and condemning these acts of terrorism very similar nobody ever does that's what you look in the media and you never see it all you're doing is showing your own stupidity and saying i don't know what i'm talking about tom asked for one example so i guess i can start with 15 year old jared michael pageant who killed a fellow student wounded a teacher and then killed himself back in 2014 actually uh he can't start there uh he can get to that right after he goes and straight up fucks himself this level of irresponsible bullshit misinformation particularly after a weekend of such tragedy is seriously dangerous and for him to have no information to base his point on uh and make it anyway is legitimately the act of a sociopath yeah no i

don't understand it's one thing to have a point i guess it would be hard to make this point yeah i don't know i can't defend it never mind no i don't understand how we're not having the conversation that all of these people are complicit in these mass shootings well because no one's ever heard of tom papper yeah well i was uh it was it he's not related to tom papa no very funny comedian tom papa no so according to a 2015 study by dr peter langman who runs school shooters that info 73 percent of cases of high school shootings that he studied involved shooters who were not on any psychiatric medication at all nor had they ever been that number dropped to 71 percent when he looked at college shooters and 59 percent uh in the stray adult cases that he included in his studies

even if the number went down as the perpetrator got older the vast majority of cases did not involve shooters who were on psych meds some of the higher profile cases involve people who had histories on meds but not all of them do for instance in the case of columbine eric harris was on psych meds but dylan kleibold wasn't how does that affect her into this overly simplified stupid narrative that they sell psych med by osmosis by proxy you can you can if he touches your hand you get psych med on you you've got munchausen and psychs yeah um one of munchausen psych also i i was looking into this there's this insane thing where like right wing sites and like these anti psych med sites were like yeah eric harris is on psych meds but dylan's records have

never been released and they they have oh fuck you so they're pretending that there's a cover up because it doesn't match the information get the fuck out yeah it's wild i am not going to engage with an argument until you're fucking it oh god so look here's the deal these people don't know what they're talking about ever tom pappert is saying that he's never heard of a shooter who wasn't on psych meds and when most uh when most of them aren't in his defense he is deaf oh that's a good theory that explains the voice that's the only thing that he's only heard of them uh because there's a huge talking point in the right wing conspiracy world most likely because it's an extension of the globalists are trying to pacify everyone with meds so they can take over and make

a one-world uh government narrative and throw a little anti-vax stuff in there too get it on anti science anti medicine yeah put it on there if you only take in media through the lens of liars like alex you get the sense that hey all these shooters seem to be on psych meds if you look at reality you see that alex is lying to you and it's not hard to see why people like him are lying also i'm still waiting for alex to give me one more example of a shooter whose parents are in the psychological community i'm sure there are some but he steadfastly refused to give me even one example um so i choose that to uh mean not good things for his argument so tom pepper sucks a little bit i was wondering like why is he on the show i mean i know that he does this god

emperor trump account and like that makes some sense but like it really shouldn't be that easy it's not that easy to rock a ride that's right on time it's tricky and it's tricky to get booked on alex jones's show here's what you have to do tom papper was a great patriot he heads up some of the biggest pro trump sites out there which is important because they can censor everybody off facebook twitter youtube but info wars dot com news wars dot com that's really important because then people have their own sites and he's also the manager of one of the great tv stations we're on oh okay there we go he's the manager of one of the great tv stations we're on there we go that solves problems yeah that that makes that's why you're having this really quick yeah this completes zero on

your show yeah yeah um so we you know the the prevailing consensus is that this uh shooter in el paso released this manifesto and it's being treated pretty roundly as his actual manifesto and if it's too believed i think the assumption can easily be made that he is inspired by a lot of the very similar motivations that are amplified by people like alex check people like tucker carlson people all over the right um so you have that perception and that's what's being discussed in a lot of the more sensible areas right of the internet but tom pepper man he knows that this guy was not right wing he knows okay and here's his evidence he look at his linkedin profile he doesn't have any second amendment stuff on there

he doesn't have any alex jones quotes on there but somehow they managed to learn all this it's absolutely fascinating so in order in order for him to define somebody as a right winger they must have second amendment stuff or alex jones quotes on their linked fucking in page i didn't see either of those necessarily on his i just saw i was on the alex jones show lol Jesus christ this is a real stupid that's your standard of proof huh but i mean i just i you know play stuff like this to like this is the stupid shit these people are saying yeah at what point are we gonna really get into it like if you can't yell fire in a crowded theater what when are we going to deal with obfuscation being applied to mass shooters and you're complicit like there's no way

and i get maybe the reporting side there's a first amendment argument but the opinion side it's it's got to be we've got to start prosecuting these people and then you're like oh no they're gonna scribe you my free speech by itself they already fucking are well and it's not happening so fucking do it well but also i mean what you're getting at there too is the kind of important point and that is that we already have qualifications about free speech that have to do with mitigating damage yep you can't do things that cause harm to people with your speech you can't threaten to kill people you can't extort people through your words you should be able to it's free speech yeah you can't do those things those are crimes you yell fire in a crowded building or whatever you cause a

stampede you could be held responsible for your words legally yep so there is already a precedent that some sorts of speech do cause the kind of damage that we do not believe that it's protected right so i mean it's just a conversation and i don't think it's as simple as like as saying like these words hurt somebody therefore they're bad no they're not legal absolutely no i don't think it's that simple i think it's a hard conversation that we all need to have like i think i think that if we're going to help this problem that is that is a priority conversation to have so we can get the sense of where people land on it i think absolutists are probably going to get in the way yeah and i think that maybe unsurprisingly and maybe sometimes their absolutism about free

speech really belies other priorities yeah that they're trying to hide behind free speech to defend right i think that's the case with alex yeah absolutely absolutely these people know what they're doing so also this episode is really weird to me because i kind of expected to get in and it be a lot of the stuff about the el paso shooter a lot of stuff about the datan shooter i expected to be largely focused on that and alex doesn't talk about a ton of it like he does absolutely and a lot of the stuff is related to those things but a lot of the things that i think are the most interesting things he says are side points kind of okay sense yeah yeah that belie incredibly fucked up positions yeah in this next clip uh that we're going to listen to here i think he's

advocating for retaining the death penalty but his reasoning for it is ludicrous it was a middle game parton was the former head of air force weapons development he was retired three star general and he said alex they get rid of the death penalty in countries that communists are about to take it over because they know they can have their own communist stage terror attacks blaming on the nationalist and then they got out of jail later and i was like really and see so think about the really smart ones don't just do a jesse small it where nobody attacked him they actually do the real attack with their cohorts sometimes people go to jail and play the part of a nationalist you see how that works that's the next level of this but you see how that works i know so we

have no idea how that works dad so now it's important to retain fucking capital punishment because if we don't then the communist agitators will know that they can commit whatever crimes blame the nationalists and they'll just go to prison and blah blah blah they'll get out yeah wow i want to say uh i understand some of that oh i mean i it doesn't make a goddamn better sense and he can go fuck himself no absolutely what the fuck are you even talking about here's the position i'm coming from i understand exactly what he's saying oh yeah i just don't understand why he believed yeah yeah exactly betton k parton told me this shit jesus dude um yeah i don't i don't think that's a good reason to keep the death penalty around i feel like there's so many

problems with the administration and uh you might as well and in his in that sentence you might as well be like we need to keep the death penalty around because if we don't the snorks are going to come to real life and they're going to attack us all and take our shoes away you talk to betton k parton i had i did he was a retired air force general talking to me about snorks um i think that all this is uh is that there's a conversation that's starting up about how trump wants to bring back the federal death penalty yeah and alex needs a defense for that and because the defense he's decided to go in whatever that's pretty lame i think you like i don't know this to be a hundred percent sure but everything i understand about his earlier positions

i think they would be very anti the death penalty yeah it seems like that would be in line with his more libertarian stance and and also just the government shouldn't be allowed to kill people yeah i don't know but now he's fine with keeping them in cages and letting them die in there so who gives a shit so that's one thing that i found that i was like holy shit what are you doing this is nuts um and and in this next clip uh remember earlier i mentioned that he needs to no it was a long time ago i mentioned that he needs to substantiate some of these stats that he uses yes yes in this next clip i'm thankful that he tries sort of uh but he also fails but having the fbi come out last week along with the fbi director and say white people are the threat white people

are the racist when the statistics don't even show that i mean i'm not being mean because it's still a low statistic but you got a 10 times chance of your white being attacked or robbed or killed by a black person you got a 10 times chance of your black being killed by a black person doesn't mean average black person is a criminal it just means there's a certain percentage that's super criminal and believes that's okay to do because whatever reason but you see it's all how they play games with the statistics swing and a miss it's hot it's all about how they play games with statistics he's playing a game here he's fucking it up whoa so it's almost breathtakingly unsettling to hear alex make literally no differentiation between white supremacist groups

and white people he hears the fbi director say that white supremacist groups are committing more violence and the way alex reports that is that he thinks the fbi director is saying that white people are bad and a threat i don't think it's an unfair reading of that to say that alex jones seems to think that being white and being white supremacist are the same thing and that's a deeply disturbing thing to hear from someone who's so clearly into white identity yeah we uh yeah yeah yeah you were you were uh like uh what was it uh was it the crossover episode we did where i said he thought we were race traders and you were you were a little bit like whoa hold on you're like you and on and on oh he's he thinks we're race traders then probably

at the end of that clip there he accuses the fbi of playing games with statistics playing games with statistics which is funny because just before that that's exactly what he was doing exactly when the fbi is discussing a rise in white supremacist violence they're talking about crimes that were specifically motivated by white supremacy not crimes that white people do where a non-white person is the victim if a white guy robs someone who happens to be black and in the process kills them that's not necessarily a crime motivated by white supremacy so it wouldn't be included in their statistics it's very easy to understand this is elementary stuff yeah it is not hard and the fact that fact that alex is operating on this completely infantile level

means that he either doesn't know anything about what he's talking about or he's confident that no one listening does it kind of makes sense why he always screams about how the main street media thinks the public is dumb that's really just him projecting his own feelings about having cultivated such a stupid uncritical audience yeah i imagine stefan malinu feels the same way a lot of the time probably bangs his head on that vent a lot yeah the bureau of justice statistics released a report in 2017 that analyzed connections between violent crime offenders and violent crime victims they found that you're overwhelmingly more likely to be a victim of a violent crime perpetrated by a person of the same race as you then by someone of a different race if you're white you're four times

more likely to be the victim of white on white crime then uh black on white crime what alex is saying is not true and it is a racist talking point this is just super racist shit that alex is saying on its face this is what this is is a misuse of statistics in the name of creating a racist talking point uh which is then being used to somehow deflect attention away from the very real fact that white supremacist violence is on the rise the adl identified 50 extremist related murders in the united states in 2018 the highest number since 1995 when the oklahoma city bombing happened uh and this was a 35 percent increase from 2017 every single one of those extremist related murders was carried out by extremists with links to right-wing groups all of them

when fbi director ray gets up and says that they're seeing an increase in cases involving white supremacy related violence that's why there are more cases because there are more crimes alex knows uh that he can't have this conversation on real terms because reality does show that right wing white supremacy motivated violence is on the rise so he moves the goalposts and it's not surprising that he chooses to move the goalposts into outright racist talking points like black on white crime it's because he's a huge racist yeah another thing alex probably doesn't want to address is a recent study that came out of the university of north texas researchers compared counties where trump held his rallies in 2016 with completely comparable counties with similar

populations racial demographics location level of known active hate groups etc they found that counties that hosted a trump rally saw a quote 226 increase in reported hate crimes over similar counties that did not hold a rally but that's probably a coincidence oh or maybe maybe jordan it's just that the globalist reported a ton of fake hate crimes in the counties where trump held his rallies so some political science professors could uncover those statistics two years later that's probably what happened that's the only explanation that i think makes any sense because these globalists are sneaky they're sneaky do you see now do you see how it works do you see how it works yeah mother assholes that uh that that uh sums it up um so if uh you know if you need to

i think we all at this point probably need to get this out like a little bit of a pallet cleanser we're all not feeling great probably a little bit mad at alex think he's doing a terrible job so if we want some if we want some schadenfreude uh just a little bit i invite you all to enjoy what i'm going to describe as one of the least inspired plugs i've ever heard him give other talk show host plug every segment because everybody knows the real advertising is during the show well whatever we had a big sale last week it's extended a few more days we got to end it it's the giant mega sale save info or sale stop the clowns when we covered the whole debate sale 50 to 60 percent off store-wide info or store.com double patriot points in your next order

who gives a shit wow that's uh that's uh whatever that is that is a man circling the fucking drain if you recall last we left off in the present day episodes alex was talking about how if he doesn't sell out the warehouse you might be done yep he has not sold out the warehouse doesn't seem like it the uh save page save the info wars special is extended another few days yeah but it's his fourth of july special as well well there is a new special oh yeah yeah easter uh no he does announce it i don't think i have a clip of it it's the anniversary of him getting banned from facebook sale oh man oh man it's the banniversary uh-huh oh boy it starts up a day after this or whatever whenever it this one ends whatever the save info war sale ends

the banniversary sale ends with the same exact price exactly yes okay there we go that's what i thought 50 for 60 percent of everything free double patriot points absolutely when he was listing off the new special like you just changed the name yep this is ridiculous Jesus Christ yeah so good i we can all enjoy that a little bit yeah um so at this point i think alex is kind of bored with tom pappert uh they do not have good surprise yeah i find him to be a chore um so alex goes to calls and i'm playing this call because you should man because we should all be afraid very very afraid yeah i'm afraid of this caller it is is it actually fucking anders brevic for christ sake no i don't know if he has a long distance that's tough although it is very nice

sell apparently but uh he you know this caller is scary and then secondarily the fact that alex doesn't hang up on him immediately also scares the shit out of me how you doing alex good brother hey man i've i've experienced this myself and i was ready for it uh i was in a cybernetic program in the army i should say that he's talking about the the idea that these shooters are mind control right right he experienced that himself because he was in a cybernetic program yes that makes sense so i'd already been through something similar to what they're doing to these people and uh you can youtube targeted individuals and just look at the people that are given their testimony there and it'll show you how this mindheim technology is creating transhumanist

which all of the media all of the media is trans you know that the supposed aurora shooters dad ran the DARPA program and he the son was in it and he said he was under mind control look that is a misdirection i guarantee you that everybody has this nano technology that's driving these people these days and if you want to see that's the problem this is going back and forth you've got these different nano mafias and everybody tries to pin it on the other people with technology and well said that they'll leave little details in there like that that set people up and it goes back and forth back and forth and nobody wants to talk because if it does it buries all of them all right and i've had to deal with this this technology came here and tried to

turn me into an operative and if you ever want somebody to give you a uh an interview and tell you exactly how this stuff operates i'll be more than happy to do it alex and well god bless you brother give us your info let me ask tom papper what yeah what what hold on i know that's a brush off yeah yeah but no yeah jesus so there's nano mafias there are nano mafias i've always known are they small people in mafias or are they mafias that are small i believe from context clues that what he's saying is that everybody has a chip in them everybody's got a chip in them and then there's these these nano mafias that control certain people like this this mafia controls billion people yeah this mafia controls a billion people and they're at war with each other

using the people whose chips are in them yeah against each other yeah that's what i hear that guy saying and i'm just like i thought he was just talking about how everybody in the media is transhumanist with well that's in there too okay well yeah okay of course of course well that one i should have taken his red sure if we've got nano mafias we're all in trouble james holmes is dead is a DARPA mind control guy but that's a misdirection it is it is he's part of the nano mafia this guy holy shit uh you know it would have been fun it would have been fun i want to hear that call on a show in 2009 i would we could have had a great time i would rather hear that guy get a show than barns yeah um so at the beginning of tom pappert's appearance he showed up and he said

i've never heard of a shooter who was on uh who wasn't on psych med right and now as we close the interview with tom pappert here's his tone he's changed it ever so slightly the way he's presenting the information it's irresponsible to not point out that every major mass shooter again the information has not come out about these two most recent ones but virtually every single mass shooter has been on some type of prescription mind altering chemical drug and ssri anti-depressants something like that it so the first time he was saying i've never heard of one who wasn't i don't know i haven't looked into it too deeply now he's saying virtually all of them it's irresponsible to not point out the virtually yeah virtually so you see the ever so slight qualify that statement

just a little bit but it's also making it much more of a declarative thing as opposed to i don't know uh that's how this works by degrees you go from you uh you acclimate to a narrative and then set it up and then say it's yours with a slightly different variation on it to cover your ass so we got one last clip of alex here from this uh fourth show august fourth and i i mentioned this at the beginning of the show he almost doesn't bring up the date and shooting at all and i think that's really weird i think it's a little bit weird it is but i have some other thoughts on it which i'll get into in the next uh episode as we go over the next episode um but as he closes the show um i think i'm only i don't know why i'm playing this clip i think it's upsetting uh it has nothing

to do with the shootings um i think this is just deeply upsetting to show that whether or not this is sincere this is the way alex wants to present that his mindset is and that to me is just deeply deeply disturbed i'm a selfish person i'll tell you i need your prayers because the enemy is attacking all my family because they they're trying to get me but my they're attacking all my family so people just pray for my family that would be really good i'm not trying to be a wimpier or a victim it's just that my family and and i'm and i'll be honest they need to burn burn them you know i mean god knows that the enemy knows like if my family's got to get burned and all this i'm not happy about it but it's gonna happen because i'm gonna lose them anyways better they get burned

up right now but they're coming after my family politically psychically it's not fun and and i'm not i'm not i'm not a wimp about this but i'm glad you're dialed in brother because it's really painful to put it on the line but you know what we're never gonna get across the line if we don't put our family on the line does that make sense well i'm fighting for my 10 year old that's for sure i'm fighting for my son in his future still talking to a caller that's really fucked up i don't i don't i really really really don't like the mindset that's being set there because whether or not alex is sincere about that in terms of his family who knows yeah he could just be bluffing and talking braggadocious because he knows that at the end of the day there aren't

real stakes for him he's talking bullshit this is he's not up against some kind of fucking new world order one world government some kind of like assassins psychically trying to take him out nothing like that it's all bullshit he knows that all this is is like entertainment and performance yeah so whether up against filing chapter 11 as well as up against well but that's the thing is like i can't say with any certainty whether or not he believes his own narratives enough to actually be feeling that way or whether it's entirely performative but what i do know is that by talking like that he is making it okay for his audience to feel like that yeah he is normalizing the idea of like well if your family's got to be sacrificed it's yeah i am a leader in this community and

that is the way i view our struggle and so you need to get yourself to a point where your families can burn if they got to yeah it's it backs up his whole or maybe it more aptly fits in with his whole where we're fighting a holy war situation like if god is involved and god knows everything and your family gets taken away that means that your family was meant to get taken away and you should still be willing to sacrifice everything because god is there for you and they're gonna get their reward in heaven which is totally not 72 virgins it's a completely different reward in heaven i i yeah i just i don't know it's it's unsettling it's unsettling to hear stuff like that and i think that this is probably one of the longest times we've spent on a sunday episode and i think it's because

alex is grappling to try and understand how to proceed after this shooting in el paso yeah and i think that because of the the freshness of it because of how he operates we're able to really see a lot of illuminating points about how this propaganda works and i think it's it's i think it's worthwhile to take the time to get into that yeah now i just keep thinking about how like the thought that keeps coming into my head is how many sanctions the us would put on a country with our current government so many fucking sanctions an interesting thought interesting thought maybe an embargo yeah exactly they blockade around us yeah yeah um so when i was going over this i was like fuck this is so much there's there's a lot to get into and a lot of it is

side issues to the to the shooting like do i not get into this like i think that all the side issues kind of relate back a little bit to the mindset that alex is in and how this is unfolding absolutely i felt like there there wasn't really a good option in front of me but i also knew that there was more news that happened by the fifth and alex would have had to like be aware of more of the fullness of the situation of the multiple uh events and um and so i felt like it would be an incomplete thing if we didn't get into the fifth so i was struggling with it and i thought like okay maybe we should do two episodes and put them both out on on wednesday yeah and what i decided is that's stupid let's just do a long episode yeah if we're gonna do two and put them out on the

same day might as well do one and especially as i got through the fifth as i started getting into that i realized that so much of it would be relying on things we talked about it in the coverage of the fourth it didn't make sense to do it separately so anyway i mean maybe do a couple policy walk shout outs now i was thinking about doing uh interlude music yeah but when have we ever let's all go to the love when have we ever gilded the lily like no never so here is alex starting out the fifth uh monday episode um and i think it says all you need to know uh i don't know uh exactly what's going on in el paso okay

i was like this music is taking a while and and that's not all of it there is a full minute of music at the beginning really really jesus christ and i think that that i don't really know what's going on el paso i think that's a part of a like pre-recorded special report because it then goes into like a special report so i don't think that alex just said that and then started one i think they just played a bunch of music probably alex was like yeah i fucking play special i don't want to do the yeah i don't want to do the five minutes that doesn't go out on most radio stations fuck it play john bound's report bury him so i just like that jam too that's pretty it gets me a little and you like i do okay all right in terms of alex jones's intro music that's up there it's

certainly no policy of truth but it's still pretty good so um we get back into this episode alex comes in he's actually in studio and uh we got an interesting uh the thing here where alex once again needs to deflect from the fact that there is this gun violence in these these shootings and he does so by pointing again to mexico most of the deaths were caused though by firearms and mexico has a complete ban on the civilian ownership of firearms but mexico has a crime rate and a firearms death rate that is the second highest in the world only after guatemala that also has a total ban on guns so um you know alex is playing really fast and loose here again like he he's really irresponsible with a lot of these times he cites anything like what is he saying

is he saying that the crime rate in mexico is the second highest in the world or that the gun rate gun death rate is is he saying both like it's unclear what are you saying i'm not too positive that i care to compare countries by crime rates i just don't know if that's a really productive statistic to use as a measuring sticks and different countries have different laws so something that's a crime in country a might not be in country b similarly different countries have variably functional criminal justice systems and varying degrees of systematic corruption so i'm not positive that comparing crime rates is going to be the best use of our time also even if you met it meant anything there's no way in hell mexico's crime rate is the second highest in the

world and there's even less of a chance that guatemala is number one did alex forget how many countries there are in the world they forget about all the countries in africa and the middle east that he loves to demonize so much like what is he doing i i find it to be a specious and stupid argument to even bring that up just because that is like saying well he's not talking about a country he's talking about its people he's not saying right mexico has a crime problem he's saying mexicans have a prime problem have a crime problem somewhat but it's weird that it doesn't even track with his other sort of perception yeah yeah but i mean now he's he's he it's off the top of the dome i guess so he's just like whatever he has a you know

whatever's in front of my face at any given point in time i can remember and then beyond that i'm sure you know i also have no idea where alex is getting his numbers from but mexico having the second highest gun death rate behind guatemala because he never cites where he's getting it from and i can say that i've poured over data from npr tons of news stories the journal of the american medical association and none of them come close to matching what he's saying i do not accept his point which is to say i think he's making that shit up countries like honduras have way higher gun death rates than mexico and it's totally illegal to buy and own guns there it doesn't matter all this is just a ploy he's using to try and argue that we shouldn't take gun violence in the

united states seriously because we don't get all bent out of shape every time someone in mexico gets shot and fair play to him sort of i mean people absolutely should care a lot about the violence in other countries and particularly we should care about the ways in which our countries foreign policy is affecting the violence in those countries i think there's a lot of credible credible voices uh out there speaking on this topic and i just don't think that alex a guy who overtly supports bolson aro and has been vocally in favor of regime change in venezuela is the sort of guy i want to listen to on that subject bolson aro who came out and said that he hopes all criminals are shot dead in the streets hey yeah crime rates yeah also there's a gross irony that every single

fucking thing that alex is about everything he's about is america first everything is about our sovereignty and fuck the rest of the world until the conversation becomes about gun violence in america and then we got a deflect so weird so weird odd so weird so weird uh man so uh in this next clip he begins to finally talk about uh the shooting and dating and um of course it's just deflections right right right um but he also is trying really hard to tie the el paso and dating shootings together okay that's important for him now in every case where they have social media that we're able to see these shooters are obsessed with shoot them up video games they're in cells they all basically look the same and they say that they're in to the occult

almost all of them there was another shooter a few years ago remember down by galveston south of houston and he was into satanism and he was mad at everybody well guess what the individual who's a big antifa leftist on his facebook on his instagram paul watson's written a big article about it with screenshots of it said i love satan i hate christians i hate trump supporters and so he was wearing a mask and ear protection and all the rest of it just like the other shooter in el paso texas isn't that interesting isn't that interesting so one thing that i find very interesting about these two shootings happening in the span of a few days was that it offered a really interesting glimpse into how different groups of people take in information when the

information was coming out in the case of the el paso shooter that he'd been involved you know there was a lot of posts on a chan that he'd released a manifesto clearly laying out that he was doing his shooting as a political statement against the immigrants who he felt were invading the country there was a response he was a terrorist well sure yeah you know he was saying himself putting out that yes again we're working under the assumption that the manifesto is a hundred percent real which i think that there's good reason to believe that to be the case even if it's not 100% concretely sure but you know so that caveat aside you know that was the conversation that people were having there is a clear motivation that was behind it and people were on the left

were quick to point out that the rhetoric was nearly identical to the rhetoric that's put out by trump and fox news and they probably would have said alex jones too but no one really cares too much about him anymore except us yeah they pointed to a trend of people online particularly on han and gab who are radicalizing each other and how this trend is something that would be unwise to think stops here unless we take things seriously people in the right wing world were defensive as we saw in the last episode with alex yeah because of course they were but this is an important distinction i don't think that anyone i saw commenting on this was really trying to connect the el paso shooter to trump and the world of right wing propaganda based on superficial

similarities it's not like you wore a maga hat in one picture and everyone was like aha that's why he did it the connection was made because in that manifesto is clearly expressed why he did the shooting and the reason for doing it is you know a central talking point of all these right wing media outlets the demographic fear uh propaganda of quote-unquote americans being replaced by immigrants is the bread and butter of alex jones uh talking points uh i always call turning points talking points very different uh talker carlson and countless other outlets yeah the important connection is that the guy uh isn't that the guy possibly liked alex jones or paul joseph watson it's that he was motivated to commit his crime by the same erroneous and and white

nationalist rhetoric that they make a living off disseminate yeah when the Dayton shooting happened it was very interesting to see how these very same groups responded to a different set of circumstances again i'm not saying any of this as if i'm making a universal claim that every person on each side of the ideological spectrum behaved a certain way but generally what i saw was one side go 180 and the other side reflect when information started to come out that the shooter in Dayton wasn't a right wing extremist worried about the invasion and quotes of immigrants and that his politics might have been to the left the right wing propagandist who are running interference for trump a day earlier and saying that just because he loved trump doesn't mean they're guilty for

the shooting immediately flipped the script and started saying that this was an antifa lunatic and started blaming all leftists the surface level details were in their favor on this one so they did what they always did attack conversely what i saw from people on the left was uh the exact same level of horror and heartbreak that they felt for the people in al Paso but with a layer of introspection there was an acceptance that just because this person is on your side ostensibly politically it doesn't mean that they might not also be a murderer and i saw people trying to make sense of that throughout the day as more information became available a clearer picture took shape it became increasingly clear that the shooter was a dangerous misogynist a classmate of his from

high school told the daily beast that she called the police after he started uh she started getting texts from him about how she was on his quote rape list she told the daily beast quote i was not surprised at all when i heard his name on the news yesterday we all predicted he would do this 10 years ago when she called the police uh back in high school he got a slap on the wrist over the threats and because they weren't taken more seriously and the process didn't go through he was still able to buy guns for the most part i saw people taking stock of how even in presumably uh progressive communities there's still a lot of unaddressed uh and under addressed problems misogyny is not a right left problem and i saw many people taking note of this and discussing it i don't know like he

might have had a undiscovered manifesto about metaphor Medicare for all uh being behind his shooting but until that comes to the surface it just doesn't appear that the date and shooting was motivated by his politics which is a big distinction it's not really a productive discussion just to know who did something it's important to get into the why of it it really feels deeply inappropriate to make these situations analogous the way alex is doing trying to make them the same i've researched a ton of killings for this podcast and the Dayton one kind of fits more into the mold of the non-political versions of this which is to say that uh there's a history of violence directed towards women in his past from everything i can tell that's what's going on here

yeah it's a truth that we've mentioned uh over and over and over again is that there's usually violence against women if not always yeah it's a very it's a very high indicator yeah and uh it's dudes it does appear that this is more the story of this and sure he had left opinions yeah and that's something that we all have to we have to grapple with we have to understand that you know agreeing on political issues doesn't necessarily mean that everybody is on the same page yeah people in this right wing propaganda sphere are working hard to make these two shootings equivalent and honestly watching it has made me sick i know it's not new behavior but the way they pivoted from defense and deflection about el paso to

feigned moral outrage about Dayton was shocking even for someone like me who watches a lot of this stuff it really seems to me that this sort of behavior only really makes sense in the context of these propagandists being fully aware that their rhetoric in worldview that they're perpetuating may be behind the el paso shooting and they need to protect themselves from that reality being discussed i didn't see any prominent voices on the left arguing that the Dayton shooter was a false flag because he agreed with some of their politics i didn't see anyone insisting that he must be a staged killer who did what he did to demonize the left so he can't we can't ever pass the green new deal there this is a very teachable moment because i want to make this abundantly

clear these people like alex do not question things and come up with insanely stupid conspiracy theories because they're questioning things they do it because they're trying to cover up and deny the real world consequences that come from having a thriving extremist right wing media in this country without that extremist right wing media most of these people have nothing so they need to protect it like like legitimately who the fuck is tom pappert without this white nationalist wave that he's riding that's an extreme example because even with it he's nobody but like who is jack pasoba without all this disinformation game that he's running who's jacob wall who's scott adams i mean i guess he has dillbert who's carpe dunked him who are any of these motherfuckers

their relevance and revenues rely on the protection of this extremist right wing media and so they protect it no matter what and i don't see that similar behavior being engaged in as it relates to uh people on the left uh with a dating shooting i see i see circumstances being dealt dealt with as uh they are from people except the right wing propagandist yep yep i mean i don't know i don't know what else to say other than like at this point in time it's kind of pretty clearly obvious that the right wing media is complicit in mass shootings yeah and i i in continued mass shooting maybe maybe 10 years ago we could have had a different conversation maybe that's a different story but at this point in time there is nothing else to say but

they are complicit it's it's it's horrifying yeah anyways um and just to be clear i think i i did you know i i saw some people in the initial uh right after the dating shooting uh speculating that it was a white supremacist shooting and i think that part of that is because we just had a white supremacist shooting six hours before well and there are uh there are often uh those indicate like a lot of times that is the case yeah yeah and those people that uh were making those speculations generally i saw corrections after it turned out that this wasn't the case yeah and i saw restraint on other people's part in terms of like let's not uh assume what motivations are there and tell there's more information and i just i don't i don't i do not see that from people

who are associated with info wars no of course not i see intention behind what they're doing and it really bums me out but it is interesting like i don't i don't i'm i'm i'm horrified about the events that have happened and i feel terribly for the people in Dayton and al Paso and everywhere else that have been touched by this and i know that there's some listeners that we have uh who are from those places and it's just awful and i i don't know i don't know i just uh it sucks it is something that i have also been thinking about recently to what extent are have we helped create this rise in white nationalists you and me um no i mean people everyone like the the constant capitulation of like okay we need to stop and think about

how the right wing is going to take this yeah that thought process to me has been one of the sleeper factors in creating all of this of right wing power like this constant like what do they think about what do they think about you see that now with all the think pieces about like well they could take the problem seriously but it would be seen as being biased against conservatives yep all of this stuff is like every step of the way we have enabled them by considering their feelings above their actions i do how can how else can we put it other than to say we don't want to say this uh because they'll get angry about it and so now we are allowing them now we're not pushing through gun control at obama doesn't we don't want to put single health pair forward because

they're going to demonize us on the right they're going to demonize us so what we want to do is we want to create a compromise we want to create this compromise where one does not exist for them they are not at a negotiating table they are not negotiating this is not a negotiation this is not something where the right and left can yeah it is an absolute hostage crisis and they are holding all of us hostage yeah and it can't and like i don't want to i don't want to go too far because we've had this conversation and i've gone too far true although it does seem like when i went too far back then i was i i'm not in the current you can still be fairly accurate and still be too far yeah you can't be both oh yeah that's that's certainly true but it's it's hard not to ascribe

a certain amount of desire to these people as well it does feel that way it's hard not to say that mitch McConnell wants another mass shooting but it might not you know it might not be that that's the primary thing that's desired absolutely decide things that unfortunately cause this right um yeah it's grim it's grim it's grim shit um so in this next clip alex talks about the uh shooter and Dayton's appearance and uh i mean whatever evil evil eyes always got that weird lazy satisfied look that's the look of demon possession that's the look they've all got that sick enjoyable look how much he loves elizabeth warren how much he loves bernie sanders how he wants to kill fascist and he loves antifa now he can't wait to go to hell and serve satan and he hails satan almost

every one of them when you dig is into the same thing right i thought they all were the children of psychologists yeah so this is going to be one of the larger overriding things about the Dayton shooting and i'll be honest alex alex doesn't talk about it nearly as much as you might expect him to based on the fact that it's like well he is you know very clearly on his social media accounts indicating that he uh it has left politics yeah it seems like this would be what you want to dance on instead he turns it into just like it's all about him being into satan yeah which is weird to me it's very weird but i think i can make sense of it as we go along uh but the only thing that i think is super important about that club is just it's so highly demonstrative of how he operates

it's like when there's a right wing guy who's into trump and uh you know loved alex or was a huge bench appear of him it doesn't matter it doesn't matter who cares who cares if you know no no psych meds it's antifa right but then you've got this he loves elizabeth warren and satan that that behavior is is uh nuts and the thing that it you can hear is that that level of glee like look at look at me i get to do my i get to do my fun voices now yesterday when it was a right wing terrorist i'm not allowed i'm not allowed oh no it's a deflection but now today i get to be like he wanted to kill your children and he wanted to eat you and that's because he loves you know what else do he spirals on this episode yeah starts talking about some stuff that i never expected

like to hear which is so weird like he's sitting here i expect i show up and i'm expecting like just nothing but dancing on democrats and yeah for sure hey there's your boy i expected that kind of childish bullshit and instead i get this but here's the big issue i'm going to tackle first president trump came out after the vegas massacre that was an internal saudi arabian civil war they used a cia us gun dealer to bring guns to the hotel room to get around the fact that they couldn't fly in with the guns there were 10 000 soddies meeting in vegas they flew in on their jets from the saudi military mainly the saudi air force was having a convention there ground prince was there whole nine yards using the same hotel he goes believing he's gonna sell

weapons to them they kill him and then carry out the mass attack as a way to terrorize trump and embarrass trump this is ludicrous what the fuck did he just say to me i've never heard alex lay out exactly what his conspiracy theory is about the las vegas shooting and man it makes sense why he rarely does because that sounds nuts so 10 000 soddies right and the crown prince mbs are all staying in the same hotel well not the 10 000 i don't think are all in the hotel yeah that'd be a big hotel yeah it's even the mandalay bay yeah what are we what are we talking about quadrupling up got get some bunks quintupling up on these uh yeah some pots yeah man this is part of like a fourchan conspiracy theory that has to do with like an attempted assassination of

prince uh mohammed bin salman uh that was supposedly carried out and then the las vegas shooting was a distraction to get people to like the paddock came and he was supposed to be selling guns to these people or so he thought but it was really they were going to cause the they were going to do this shooting to cause a distraction so they could have their assassins kill the crown prince oh okay right well that's right that's what alex is sort of cribbing from yeah he's taking that and then getting the assassination of mbs out of it and inserting embarrassing trump right which is crazy trump went to saudi arabia in may of 2017 and touched the orb the las vegas shooting wasn't until october 2017 so maybe oh get this maybe what do we got here maybe the orb was the

first attempt to embarrass trump but it didn't work so they had to do the las vegas shooting maybe that's what's going on here that it seems a bit like a strange escalation sure i would assume there would be a middle step touch the orb between touch the orb and let's kill hundreds of people i think there's a there's a middle ground there like what motivation did the saudi government have to want to embarrass trump like when he went to saudi arabia he and the king signed a series of letters of intent to sell saudi uh 350 billion dollars in weapons over the course of the next 10 years trump has been very consistent about being into saudi arabia before the las vegas shooting after the las vegas shooting after jamal kashoggi got murdered after congress blocked eight billion

dollars in weapons sales to saudi back in may and trump just ignored it went ahead with the sale anyway after congress passed resolutions blocking him from selling arms to saudi arabia in concern about their actions in yemen back in july and then trump vetoed it went ahead with the sale anyway trump has been very consistent since day one he does not give a fuck there's literally no motive for the saudi's to concoct some elaborate terrorist attack in the united states to embarrass trump into doing what they want because he was already doing exactly what they want this is a theory like i said that was circulating on that poll board but it's so completely full of holes that if you find it being discussed in other non-insane message boards it just gets torn to shreds there are

thousand holes in the story not least of which uh why there are 10 000 holes in the story uh if steven paddock was a patsy arm dealer why had he been casing hotel rooms overlooking other music festivals why did he book rooms uh hotels in chicago boston and another one in los vegas all overlooking big tourist venues if he was just a guy getting some guns for these saudi folk why was he doing that shit for it's not like this is even worth exploring alex would just say that the saudi arabians tricked paddock into going to those hotel rooms so they would leave a compelling paper trail to keep people from finding the real truth yeah that's why this game is never worth playing i have no interest in if you said 10 000 saudi's i didn't or no no no i heard he said

fuck you fair enough fair enough fair enough uh yeah he said 10 000 saudi's in prince mbs and i was like get the fuck out of here i'm not even gonna listen it's nuts fuck you yeah so that was like all right we're off track here yeah yeah a little bit we are off track a little bit we're uh we're in uncharted territory if uh 10 000 saudi's and mbs are hanging out five hundred twenty five thousand six hundred saudi's i just want to show off the pipes well done um so uh that was wild then alex just starts rambling about uh guns and how they're great and he he gets into something very interesting like this is i loved this clip because it's he's so wrong it's amazing like he's just so wrong he couldn't be more wrong but the truth is you've got a lot better chance of somebody trying to

break in your house with a gun in cities where the public's been disarmed because let me tell you thieves will break in your car and stuff in most areas of texas but they don't come in your house because they'll get their ass blown off home invasions are very rare here in chicago in new york and detroit in every leftist area like baltimore maryland they are epidemic oh my be an ease i i i think that makes no like even on an on an intuitive level it makes more sense for the opposite to be true oh interesting because if you're in a city you don't have to well there's some interesting things going on you know alex has absolutely no idea what he's talking about he seems to think that burglaries are happening all the time in these blue cities where the public

doesn't have guns but that's entirely just based on his feelings that's not backed up by any proof if he spent 10 seconds looking into this he would realize he is a big dumb ass hole first things first as a chicago in i feel the need to point out that chicago doesn't even have the highest burglary rate in terms of cities in illinois that honor goes to danville the hometown of gene hackman which is 50 miles closer to indianapolis than it is to chicago danville is in vermilion county which voted 62.4 percent for uh for trump in 2016 to so whatever the u.s city that is the highest rate of burglary is bastrop louisiana which is in a morehouse parish which voted 55 percent for trump in 2016 both u.s senators from louisiana are republicans and five out of the six

people they send to the house of representatives including alex's good buddy steve schliece are also republicans the city in the u.s at the second highest rate of burglary is blitheville arkansas which is weirdly in mississippi county which voted 53.4 percent for trump in 2016 both senators from arkansas republicans and four out of the four members of the house uh from the state are also republicans it is a very red state the third and fourth most burglarized cities in the country are lumberton and lorenberg north carolina north carolina was trump country in 2016 and both senators from north carolina are republicans as are eight of the 11 uh house members uh there's actually 13 seats but two are vacant you can totally have guns in louisiana and even get

concealed carry permits you can absolutely get all the guns you want in arkansas and you could totally open carry your gun without a permit you can definitely own guns and conceal carry in north carolina as securelife.com uh the website's security company they reviewed the 2017 fbi statistics and you know what they found new york is the state with the least burglaries in the country chicago's burglary rate isn't even 10 percent of bastrops and it's actually slightly lower than austin's nothing alex is saying means anything he's just making shit up that feels right to him and he's making a pretty safe bet that no one in his audience is going to doubt him or have the mental uh horsepower to realize he's full of shit but he is full of shit he has no idea what

he's talking about and more often than not he's just saying shit with no evidence to support and he's saying it as it's as if it's a definitive fact as he did here they have to be very stupid to trust this dude he's a bluffer he's bluffing you know what's interesting too like uh i was looking into this and some of the people who are experts in the field that i don't know if they even prove this necessarily but they they theorize that urban areas actually have much lower uh uh rates of burglary and one of the reasons is because there's apartment complexes and high rises which are much more difficult to uh commit burglaries in well i the thing the only thing that makes sense uh or like the the intuitive thought i had is just there are so many people

crammed in together and uh b and e tends to make just enough noise to fuck up everybody else's night that's probably a huge factor you know like if you're in the suburbs or if you're in a small town in the middle of nowhere there's so there's a yard between you and your neighbor you see that fifth floor up there yeah how how's anyone gonna break into that no shit you're gonna have to go through you're gonna have to break it later exactly it's much easier to break into something that's just a single unit on a ground floor than it is so like there's tons and tons of like just dwellings that are super elevated or behind multiple walls well even and even our houses are a ton of houses a share of fucking wall half almost yeah you know there's a foot of space in

between each house or there's tons of buildings that have like uh entrances that are only accessible through courtyards right which make it like why would someone break in you're completely exposed in this area yeah and there's always somebody awake and there's always a light on and there's always somebody looking or at least you assume there that doesn't mean there aren't any burglaries in the city or anything like that but the rates in these uh uh the the you alex thinks yeah are happening in these i mean let's be fair mostly predominantly non-white popular at least he associates with non-white populations baltimore chicago cities yeah so i mean like that's that's the perception that he has but it's not true it's based on him just making things up on what he

assumes is the case which like honestly behaving like that kind of puts a little bit of a asterisk around most of the things you say right like you can if you can that confidently deliver something you're making up yeah man you are a suspect well it's because he thinks that if so and it i can kind of see where he might feel confident when he's making that up is if you think that chicago is murder city usa then i'm guessing he probably just assumes that if chicago has a high rate of murder then it must have a high rate of every single possible crime available we're just crime ridden doing everything everybody in chicago is committing crimes all the time if that's the case and i would really love for him to say i assume the chicago has higher crime burglary rates

right because that would be honest because the fact is it doesn't no of course not so go fuck yourself alex no on behalf of chicago yeah go fuck yourself for so many reasons go eat a hot dog we catch up we'll catch you on damon and fullerton and we'll fuck you up that's what we're gonna have six corners yeah wait which one the new six corners of the old six what the old town what are we talking about the original sears six corners they say there's yeah yeah me me at willis tower doesn't exist i don't do a good chicago accent um so both of those last two clips were like what are we doing yeah las vegas shooting conspiracy okay uh burglary's are high in uh cities uh wrong okay this next clip blew my fucking mind it legitimately i was like alex

what are you saying what are you saying he seems to be expressing a desire to go back to a bygone age but that's not out of the norm for him no no he wants a farm he wants to retire he wants to live in the forest right but the specifics of the context in which he's talking about it make me very upset because there always has been some people but in the old days we dealt with them the village would recognize them and the first time they got caught doing something weird sick well you know what the village would do and usually their parents will even join in beat their brains out people didn't put up with this kind of crap the old days you acted sick and weird said you

wanted to kill kids got caught doing something weird well where'd bob go well nobody knows where old bob went the last 10 shooters or so all said they hated christians and that they love satan except the el paso shooter because they've expunged all the stuff and were and then putting fake stuff up about how he's a trump supporter you know that's admitted that his social media was anti-trump democrat i mean there's screenshots of it it's confirmed but it didn't matter it all got put out there it all got force fed on saturday we've been banned from the larger internet we couldn't counter it and so now it is the accepted fact that the supposed lone shooter in el paso texas was a trump supporter even though we have all the

screenshots from his social media and they changed it we ought to be asking who changed it within 30 minutes who was able to do that anybody anybody can do that literally anybody who knows how to use the internet it's not like i you need a super hacker no to change my life thing yeah and that's the other thing too i think we didn't do a good enough job of like really calling him out on this is like presenting my life as social media yeah is absurd that is that means something very different it's closer to the white pages as i understand it yeah yeah kind of a profile not the white papers no but like a phone book could be the white papers we call that um so yeah that's and this is why i wanted to really drive home at the beginning of the episode how central that is to so much of his

suspicions because now like anything that happens can be called into question because of this right misunderstanding that he has about the my life profile right being changed anything he can get away from any kind of the the assertions that this manifesto is his yeah he can get away from any indications that he had similar beliefs to the right wing media sphere right the conveyor the very it's very useful the very convenient misunderstanding of how my life almost too convenient almost too almost suspiciously convenient now i want to talk about the rest of that clip let's do it alex is so goddamn fucked up every time i think i've heard his weirdest position he goes and swings for the fences and catches me off guard with something like back in the day the village would

kill people before it gets to this point yeah haven't you read haven't you read the lottery down or the fucking crucible the lottery was like random though right so there there was a part of me that was inclined to just say hey look at this weirdo who thinks it's a good idea for communities to kill people who break and break their local mores but i think there's something this this is so weird that it deserves a little more analysis what alex isn't mentioning is that in these villages he's talking about presumably in the early days of america that he fetishizes so much these rules were straight up theocratic in the early 1600s in uh virginia it was illegal to not attend church twice a day you had to attend church twice a day if you broke that law three times

you'd be enslaved for six months rowing boats man yeah humans are stupid these early systems of village justice were not at all what alex imagines they were where the community just gets together and deals with the problem early and then everyone seals their lips like they're in la costra nostra la costra nostra more often than not the people who were the targets of community justice were such uh because the community just thought they were weird probably because they were gay or just they didn't fit into the insanely rigid social structure that was enforced at the time the Salem witch trials are a great example of this getting way out of hand like many of the victims of that chapter in our history were just women who didn't play by the repressive rules of the patriarchal

system in the villages that they lived in one of the people who was killed was a woman who married a slave another was a woman who just didn't want to go to church neither of these women posed a threat to others in the way that a mass shooter does today and killing them was not an act that protected anything other than the repressive status quo many groups like the first nations and Maori uh they had in place systems of restorative justice on the community level but uh that they didn't involve secretly disappearing people so i think that might be a little different than what alex is talking about although an interesting uh idea that they have yeah it is a uh unfortunately tony morrison uh died rest in peace she she was amazing but the quote that's going around

recently to paraphrase is something along the lines of uh if you need to tear somebody else down to feel tall then you have a problem and uh it seems like white people need to do that uh maybe they have a problem is that a quote uh no i paraphrased it okay yeah uh yeah fair enough if you take alex like what alex is saying is plainly as you can i think he's saying that we should go back to a system where we kill people we're suspicious of so they don't end up becoming a problem later and i gotta say that's an insanely big swing for someone who claims that one of his favorite parts of western culture is due process it sounds kind of like uh that might just be a buzzword for him back in the old days back in the old days we didn't have due process

and it was easier to solve problems i love due process but we could do away with it you know what i'm saying yeah uh do away with it he yells about due process all the fucking time like and now he's like yearning for the days when the mob would kill weird people yeah i'm confused about why their parents would bash their brains in along with like what the fuck get out of here no shit get out so um one of the things about uh doing the monday episode as well as the sunday and looking at both of them was first of all the dissatisfaction with alex not talking about both shootings on sunday yeah and then secondarily that i knew that eight chan had their issue uh by monday right so alex would be aware of that and i mean that's where he gets a lot of his information from

both four chan and eight chan so i knew he'd be kind of bent out of shape about it he doesn't seem nearly as mad about it as i expected it's very weird i mean obviously he's opposed to them not being around yeah free speech censored yeah sure etc etc yeah sure and he's misrepresenting the story about what happened and so that means that he cares a little it's a weird way to put it he cares so he lies yeah that's an accurate way to put it yeah kind of it's a weird thing to be true but i think it is true yeah so here's uh here's him getting into that story the fact that this individual supposedly uploaded this manifesto to eight chan and now eight chan's been taken down off of their internet provider is beyond dangerous ladies and gentlemen and next they're talking about

taking away URLs as well as if eight chan caused this individual to go and do this it's just preposterous i think there's an interesting conversation to be had there that's not preposterous but alex is misrepresenting the situation here with eight chan a little bit for one there is a real problem with dudes getting radicalized on that site and there's a very consistent consistent pattern of it that we've been seeing beyond that a ton of alex's fake information he just pulls directly from four chan and eight chan so making it a little bit harder for him to find that low hanging fruit might actually be a good thing for him like maybe if he has to work for it a little bit more it'll bring out that fighting spirit right that old that'll get him back in mid-season form

or he'll quit even sooner maybe yeah what happened with eight chan wasn't that they had their site taken down were the government to do that i would agree that that would probably be a little bit of a bad precedent to set and i don't know how in favor of it i would be that i would like the end result but i don't think i'd like the process in reality what happened was that cloud flare uh internet security company decided to stop working with eight chan leaving them with no protection from hackers and denial of service attacks most websites have security services they can work with uh that they do work with and that allows most sites to uh regularly uh not get disrupted all that often those websites have terms of service though so if you're running a wordpress page and the

content is outside what they allow wordpress will take down your blog eight chan doesn't have really any rules so in essence their relationship with cloud flare flare was becoming a thing where cloud flare was just protecting a website where increasingly dangerous and illegal things were going on and no one was doing anything about it cloud flare has no obligation to protect eight chan and they decided that they'd had enough and severed the relationship that's their right to decide after the unite the right rally cloud flare dropped their services from being used by the daily stormer this is something they can do and honestly should do if eight chan or the daily stormer exists as entirely toxic hate filled spaces no company should be forced to work with them

it provides services that allow them to maintain their space as long as there are other companies in that market space you know so it's not like a monopoly it's not a monopoly yeah yeah i give what you're saying yeah one of the things that no one man should have all that power yeah well and and that's just i mean that has nothing to do with even protecting their free speech it's just more of a this is bad yeah yeah one of the only things that allows these chans to exist and operate the way they do is intense security and anonymity protection it's created a place where users are free to throw out racial slurs cheer on mass shootings plan mass shootings call for genocide and whatever other horrible shit you can imagine a lot of it's probably insincere but the single

thing that makes it possible is anonymity without a company like cloud flare providing that anonymity protection the entire game falls apart because people be like oh this comment could be traced back to me being a real racist pile of shit right no it's it's what protects them it's for people who can still feel shame in the real world maybe yeah pretty soon after cloud flare dropped them eight chan announced that they'd gotten security from bit mitigate but that quickly fell apart when it was found out that bit mitigate was really just selling services from another company voxility who said fuck that shit and pulled their services it's not a coincidence that bit mitigate is also the company that came in to protect the daily stormer after they were kicked

off cloud flare i'm gonna guess they would say it's a protecting free speech thing but i don't buy that shit for a second anyway the situation as it stands now as best as i can tell is that eight chant doesn't have solid security uh in a company that will work for them and work with them and that could effectively be the end of their effectiveness as a radicalization hub we'll see though other you know some other shit had come along and work with them some other company could agree to do it and may have already by the time we're recording this and put this out yeah or a whole new hub could pop up in short order for the time being i think it's an effective disruption of the process and while that doesn't necessarily solve the problem i think it's probably a positive

thing yeah that's my feeling on it platforming is a good first step there's never it's never a bad idea uh or it's it's a it's an action at the very least it's fucking something because nobody else is doing a goddamn thing mm-hmm so we've seen bad work on alex's part so far i mean the sunday show was full of a lot of nonsense but so far we've you know we've seen alex misreporting this story we've heard him read the dappa versus darpa thing is just that was on sunday on unexcusable wipe it off the block yeah i can't wipe that off the block well i mean for the purposes of this next clip well for jenny they never mind um so we i mean he's talking about mexico's crime rate uh nonsensical ways he's rambling and just making stuff up about burglary

rates in america and so it's really funny when he says something like this we're gonna go to break and we come back uh i've done too much preparation for the show my head is spinning sorry i don't just put these hundreds of articles out here to it was a prop or look i've i've got all the research i learned a long time ago that computers uh can crash uh they change stories they remove stories so i've been on air 25 years for 25 years used to it took like a couple minutes to load an article remember that 25 years ago so i learned that if i got an article loaded i would print it so i don't have to read it um also if you hear that popping and stuff i've noticed that lately in his present day episodes the sound quality is so much worse really yeah i don't know what the deal is but his

just present day episodes have like it's the there's high high level quality problems yeah it's not your earphones it's not us that's that's on his end wow yeah it's pretty pretty that's sad pretty weak um he goes on to ramble about how like people at old radio stations got mad at him for using all the printer paper so he bought his own printer like why are you doing why are you telling us this there's no way that those are not props yeah like they're they're maybe maybe too deep maybe too deep on an article no rest is blank paper no come on alex so just admit it in this next clip alex is complaining about trump uh and he's uh you know trump had been talking about uh putting red flag laws in place where people who are red you know the red flags on this yeah maybe make

it so they can't get guns i at this point he probably you could have told me he was trying to outlaw red flags as a way to help gun control and i'd be like of course he maybe whatever so alex is not into that but he's also not nearly as mad about that as you might expect i thought for sure tune in this show and he'd be like trump's up in fucking ice he's not i don't know i don't know why he seems totally fine with the whole thing yeah if obama had done that oh we there might actually we might actually be in a civil war right now yeah so alex is like this is unnecessary because there's already this sort of thing he said i love satan here's a little tip when someone says i love satan and can't wait to die and go to hell that's what he said and i'm gonna kill people you don't

need some red flag act that gets rid of the process look at that guy pale so real quick i just want to be clear alex is talking about like you can use the baker act to put these people you know yeah and to that point people tried yeah how did it go people who are the targets the young women who are the targets of his harassment in high school tried yep so alex i will say on paper yes there are things in place that can help in these sorts of situations but the conversation is about how these things don't work and we need to take this more seriously and possibly that can be done through further legislation maybe i don't know but anyway would you would you believe that alex spins his wheels a while and that kind of turns this into ranting about himself sure

have that distant stare like a little spoiled rotten baby probably jerks off 50 times a day i mean we know the exact mo these dudes women run from them they're creeps creep because i guarantee a daddy wasn't home and nobody ever beat his ass wow i hate you so i mean that guy needed he needs his needed to have his ass kicked royal yeah when he was i guarantee he was a bully when he was uh i love that you were a bully fake uh origin story they put out on me totally made up all eyes that i was a bully that i was beating up people smaller than me no i was bullied and i beat the living hell out of people once i hit puberty that's what happened why are you doing this like why are you tell like why did you start ranting about the Dayton

shooter and then turn it into like he needs to get his ass kicked he was probably a bully everyone says i'm a bully i was bullied why stop making this about yourself everything is about him it's a malignant narcissist it's crazy so um this shooter in Dayton and also the one in El Paso chose some accessories to use during their shootings and alex believes uh that he knows why you know this ohio thing was a copycat dress the same or ear protection everything because they're used to wearing the headphones when they play the shoot them up games and he was into that too oh great fuck you i great we're not we're not talking about video games i'm done if you if anybody's like video games then they're done there's no argument we're not

arguing this argument was settled 10 years ago go back and fucking time and do it i'm not i present that without comment yeah it's just that's what alex that's the level he's operating oh i wasn't talking about i wasn't talking to you specifically oh no i thought that was a suggestion that i was going to say okay no we're not talking about this no no no so earlier on on sunday's episode alex brought up the babies and incubators which he blames on the left strangely um uh and you know like that's sort of the justification for why you get to question things and again he's not questioning things he's creating misinformation it's very clear uh he brings back up the babies and incubators and this is fucking fascinating to me we have a right and a duty to look at every

event as if it could be staged take the babies and the incubators again 1990 desert shield the buildup before desert storm the offensive and they came and testified that they saw babies by the hundreds pulled out their brains bashed out the girl had never been to collate none of it happened she was the daughter of a pr firm controlled by the Saudis she was four years older than they said she was 18 she wasn't 14 it was a lie there's a lie we've talked about the specifics of the babies and incubators narrative on a past episode so i don't want to go all the way back deeply into it but i want to point out just a few things here that are a huge problem um there's a lot of problems with the 1990 testimony that was given about the iraqi

security forces stealing incubators from qaidi hospitals and leaving children to die i'll not pretend that there aren't um however it's woefully simplistic for alex to pretend that the testimony was the only reason george hw bush began the gulf war i'm sure it was a piece of it and while it's an incredibly complex situation it does appear that some of that testimony was not accurate all that's fine and if alex wanted to discuss the testimony on those terms i think there'll be a great use of his time that might be something an actual skeptic might do someone like alex would prefer to embellish and exaggerate things in order to use this example to help justify his unjustifiable position that he deserves to have a knee jerk reaction to every

act of white people committing terrorist acts uh and assuming that they're somehow fake yeah that clip we listened to right there was 31 seconds long and in it alex said seven completely not true things one the girl who gave the testimony was named niara al sabah and she had most certainly been to kawaii two her father was not a member of a pr firm her father was saoud al sabah the kawaii ambassador to the united states three the pr firm in question was hillan noelton which was working with a group called citizens for a free kawaii i can find no evidence to support the claim that hillan noelton was controlled by the saudi's four there's no evidence that she was 18 five no one claimed she was 14 she was 15 six in her testimony niara doesn't specify how many babies

were taken out of incubators but in written testimony later that wasn't under oath she put the number at 15 which is far lower than alex's bullshit about hundreds seven nowhere in her testimony does niara say that the baby's brains were bashed in she just said that they took the incubators and left the children to die on the cold floor that is a staggering amount of details to have wrong in such a short burst of words and some of this may sound pedantic but i really need to stress that even when alex kind of has a good point he's wrong it's pathological for him even when the circumstances of something are in his wheelhouse and a story should be a slam dunk for him he can't resist the urge to lie about it and make it even more sensational part of that is just the

alex doesn't know much about the stories he's telling that's a big part of it but another thing he's you know he's like a jesus lizard he's only able to stay above water and skip from spot to spot on the surface because he has no conception of the depth of the water if the jesus lizard made any use of anything other than the surface of the lake it would sink and the same is true of alex both make a great impressive spectacle but there's not much more i mean there's so much more of the water that they're missing and as i read that i'm like was i high when i wrote that i'm sorry i gave you a face i gave you a face i'm sorry i was feeling it i'm sorry i was like i must have written that three in the morning i stand by it but no no no i get it i get

the i get the analogy uh i i do it's it it works so anyway alex he doesn't know anything about this case or if he does he's intentionally exaggerating and misleading things because it helps him make his claim that it's more justified for him to quote unquote question everything which is flimsy so um in this next clip alex man he's just all over the place but i i actually i like this clip i'll be honest okay i like this clip all right you know they have hollywood movies like wag the dog bill clinton liked that movie so much with dustin hoffman and willy nelson point of order that's not the billing on it dustin hoffman robert deniro right right maybe denis leary third okay i would uh uh uh yeah who's who's the lady and an haste and haste gets top

billing over fucking willy nelson get out of here just because you know him that he staged it a year after came out exactly that in real time in the same area so if you're missing if you miss like as we pause in the middle he's arguing that bill clinton loved wag the dog so much that he decided to do it and man i love wag the dog i think it's a fantastic movie although i will say i haven't seen it since i was 19 or so yeah i haven't seen it in a long long time i'll be the first to admit there's a lot of similarities between the situation depicted in the movie and some of the details of the lulinski affair there's also a bunch of differences that you need to wrestle with if you want to make this kind of argument the first is that in the movie the war is fake they don't bomb

anyone actually it's just all for show if alex is arguing that the clinton like clinton faked bombings because he loved wag the dog so much even though he would have to know that people would say hey are you wagging the dog right now like legitimately clinton's secretary of defense was asked about wag the dog under oath this is a very popular movie in 97 it's not like clinton would see that movie and they'd be like we're gonna do exactly this and no one will ever put the pieces together i would argue that the fact that there are many surface level similarities makes it less likely that the bombings were an attempt to change the media coverage since that plan would be painfully transparent and there was a cool movie with a catchy name people could use to be like hey

that's what you're doing yep it's a ridiculous now that said the bombing that the military carried out around the time of lulinski uh when monica lulinski testified uh in front of a grand jury the bombing was in sudan um and wag the dog they put up on a fake war in albania because they know that no one knows anything about albania alex says that clinton carried out an attack in the same area and i should tell you that albania and sudan are not in the same area a few thousand miles give or take is no big deal about 2000 no give or take no big deal albania is in the Mediterranean whereas sudan is south of egypt and africa in the sahara desert not very similar or close as alex sits in his studio doing his show he's closer to nicaragua he's closer to

haiti than albania is to sudan and i would not say his studio is in the same area as nicaragua ridiculous nonsensical but but i love that i love that alex lives in a world where he thinks the bill clinton saw a wag the dog was like let's do it oh god love it uh you have to take those moments because everything else sucks so much brief brief brief moment of of a unfiltered levity yeah so in this uh next clip he plays a report from the weekend uh this this is from the weekend right this is his monday show but he's playing a clip from the weekend and keep in mind a clip from his own show yes yes okay and i think uh oh this is just trash oh boy trash they act like this is somehow bad i'm i'm very proud of what i said here here it is nbc reports patrick crucius

the leftist savior who just shows up right at the moment where the left is being exposed with our whole agenda is falling apart and when trump is defending our borders supposing as evil racists right as antifa announces nationwide funded by alexander soros that they are going to be marching and across the u.s and meeting september first in like 26 days in el paso to cross the border patrol and to lay siege to them these are quotes they put out graphics showing american flags burning they put out graphics showing dead ice officers and i said what are they planning to stage i said this on friday show what are they planning to stage and on thursday show what are they planning to stage

the head of antifa showing up right on time at el paso so that looks legitimate when they attack physically the ice agents and call them nazis and say kids are turning out toilets and the people are being killed who are actually coming here from the countries that are collapsing so the the reason i play as much of that is because i want to make this abundantly fucking clear alex is pretending that he's questioning things and that's why the media is afraid of him existing that he's not questioning things that is a narrative he has a narrative and that was during the weekend that isn't on monday's show that is his knee jerk reaction is a formed narrative that has people to blame it has villains it has a storyline it has a reason it has a

baked in false narrative about this uh antifa tour that's going to end in el paso this is what he does this is not questioning things this is disinformation and propaganda but it's not like it's not good propaganda it's evil this is evil propaganda well i mean it's not just evil propaganda it's not even good evil propaganda it's bad evil propaganda but it works man yeah well that's a problem yeah that is a problem so um you know we got big guests so far we had tom pappert yes we had tom pappert right we had that one guy who called in and he had nano mafia i don't count him as a guest i feel like future employee um and now we get to guest we're more familiar with who's just as much of a shithead as tom pappert and that is the health ranger no he's not allowed

mike adams he's not allowed um this is this is one of mike adams theories that he has going about these shootings and man i want to say this before we start it i'm gonna say it after we start and this dude is fucking stupid people were really shot and killed none of us are saying that that didn't happen congrats what we're saying what we're asking the question is what why was this violence taking place or why was this person a dispatched to this walmart in el paso to carry out this shooting and if he was on a suicide mission why was he wearing hearing protection why was he wearing ipro and ear pro as we say in the shooting community you only do that if you expect to survive which is why i don't believe that his so-called manifesto is real at all i think the manifesto

let's explain how this works you think you're going to a drill or you think you're taking part of something because you're in the queue movement and trump's got you as a secret agent and you get set up in the process but then you get given electroshock therapy a few hours later and you never remember what happened oh that's how it works i think alex is also eating lunch um so that's stupid um i want to say i promise i was going to say this so mike is fucking stupid and i want to say this he is a complete goober listen to this dumb fuck uh look this is insane these dudes present themselves as gun experts and passionate about the gun world and yet here they are trying to pretend that the only reason someone would wear ear and eye protection

is that they expected to survive yeah it's definitely not because you would want to continue to be able to see and that's part of it like legitimately how fucking stupid do they think people they're talking to are just off the top of my head i can come up with a bunch of reasons why someone who expected to die would still wear ear and eye protection how about uh they're used to doing so is it outside the realm of possibility that these are people who shot regularly so they're in the habit of practicing appropriate safety measures is that seriously not even a possibility what about comfort even if you expect to die that doesn't mean you want to risk blowing out your eardrums right before you do or how about the notion that these dudes knew that they would

be more effective carrying out a shooting with ear and eye protection that's what i was thinking it it's kind of like a you know like it's some kind of a kickback or powder or whatever gets into your eyes mid-shooting that's going to limit your efficacy as will ringing pain in your ears it's entirely possible that these guys just saw using ear and eye protection as being part of maximizing the damage they'd be able to inflict because uh they would be protected from the little things that could derail their shooting prematurely absolutely for mike adams to argue with a straight face that using eye and ear protection somehow proof that the alpaso shooter expected to live is a gigantic leap of logic he hasn't proven his premises and he hasn't earned his conclusion

he's just talking shit and he knows he's talking shit the reason the possible other reasons they might wear protection aren't discussed is because mike and alex have a specific conclusion they need to get to the misinformation is towards a desired goal not to some kind of skeptical analysis of things that's just abundantly clear so now they're presenting the idea that you have these guys who are like brainwashed or something and so they end up like the globalists have dispatched them there that's now the the operating function that they're going off of and alex is kind of being rushed out to break but he he he makes reference of something that has to do with this the technique and the system that they the globalists use and it kind of piqued my interest

because i hadn't heard him mention this before we're going to break down how they set people up on the other side the arlington road system stay with us he's like oh shit he's about to break something real i'd never heard this discussed before and then it kind of disappointed me because when he came back from the commercial break he explained it and here's what it's all about folks need to know that the left's tools is trying to race war that's the race in the hole all the movies all the netflix all the tv shows are race war race war race war and so i think trump's right to come out and say hey white supremacism is terrible even though we know this guy's a leftist and the other guys have an admitted antifa member that loves satan i get why trump's doing this

politically it's still very dangerous with his base to talk about getting rid of due process with red flag laws but again arlington road came out i don't know 15 years ago jeff bridges there's a libertarian professor all right he's a critic of the government okay having too much power here we go and there's this weird shadowy right wing group the movie pretty much it's it's shadow government cia nope they set him up he believes he's stopping the truck bomb but all they really do is trick him to get in there when it goes off so they can then put it on the news to make it look like he's the terrorist and look he's a respected professor that did this let's go to the audio here it is

so then alex just plays minutes of uh the end of arlington road of course it's a fucking movie yeah the arlington road system is a movie that's i was thinking that he was genuine i was like oh i haven't heard about the arlington road system there must be some sort of transportation or you you like nope arlington road system not the arlington road system you got tricked the same way i thought it sounded like maybe it's something yeah it's a fucking movie it's always a movie god damn it there's one crucial problem with alex's theory about the movie arlington road and that is that in the movie jeff bridges character is not set up for a terrorist attack by the fbi or the deep state uh but his neighbors uh the ones who do it who are terrorists who are

looking for someone to carry out the attack they planned uh in such a way as to make it look like it's a lone wolf attack to protect their terrorist cell so they can continue operations again we run into this thing where alex can't defend any of his ideas except by referencing movies and so often the movies he cites don't even make the points he thinks they do especially when he tries to cite a book that one's that's when we get into real trouble there it's so crazy so anyway alex plays minutes of this and at the end of the movie it's weird that can't be true it is is he eating lunch again i think he might be i think he might be but he does chime in a couple times i think it's pretty funny really good movie you know how these people work folks this is it and tell him

you're right i don't see scripts see i am what yeah what did he just say he said that it's a great movie and most of these scripts are written by the cia and by extension that means you can learn about how they operate through this right i thought that's what he said but i assumed that you couldn't possibly be that stupid arlington road was not written by the cia it was written by erin kruger who also wrote the ring uh three transformers movies and the new dumbo i can find no evidence that he is cia also arlington road is not a good movie it's a paranoid convoluted mess of a movie with tons of plot holes that make no sense so alex did you watch it i saw it a long time ago but i i have not i've not gone back okay but i did check some reviews just just refresh my memory

and it's not universally positive yeah gotcha um so uh like i said he plays a bunch of this metacritic just gives it a rating of alex jones loves this movie which is enough for people to be like okay good good i'm out so alex alex plays a bunch of the movie and i think he starts to realize like i'm supposed to be a radio show yeah you're not good for radio but tv won't see it all right good good good good good good not good for radio all right and that was minutes in yeah okay so here is his sort of final piece about arlington road and i just think that there's you could see like a real problem but it's so in line with his brain in this clip that it's on the news he's the right wing terrorist

and now the police take him take over so the end of the movie involves uh jeff bridges being set up for a bombing and what you saw there was the explosion yes at the end when fbi building gets blown up right and alex is missing a very vital point in the plot of this movie and that is that the bombing of that fbi building was still definitely a terrorist attack just because jeff bridges got set up that doesn't mean that it wasn't still an organized coordinated attack by an anti-government terrorist cell sure it's unfortunate that jeff bridges good name has to be tarnished by the bombing but whatever it's saying but but whether it's saying he was a right wing terrorist or saying that the group that set him up were right wing terrorists

either way it's still a movie about a right wing terror plot yes it's remarkable how alex rewrites both reality and fiction to fit his worldview in the movie tim robbins and his wife are definitely terrorists but alex watches this movie and decides that they must actually be working for the globalist and that's the writer's real point i know that art is subjective and we all bring a lot of our own baggage to any media we consume but i'm very unsettled by the way alex consumes media we don't bring that much baggage i tend not to i don't think anybody brings that much baggage i think if alex were to try and describe the plot to the writer he'd be like wow yeah i did not that was that wasn't my point i don't i didn't even want to know

how alex understands a fucking wheel of fortune episode like i don't want to deal with how he rewrites that whole fun it's a globalist so the whole time he's playing arlington road mike adams is on hold good mike adams whatever as long as you're on hold you're not hurting somebody else so mike adams started things off with a dumb argument about eye and ear protection and now he comes in with uh maybe a dumber argument i would say this is dumber if you are moving with a long gun an ar or an ak you're moving and trying to shoot targets that are running it is extremely difficult that takes an expert marksman to pull that off that's not something that a casual uh 21 year old with no experience can accomplish so uh mike adams is really bringing

some soft bullshit today uh this argument is absolutely nonsensical on its face because it presumes one thing and that is that these shooters had targets they weren't going into places like where they committed their crimes with the intention of shooting specific people which admittedly would be hard and if that were the case mike mike might have a decent point oh yeah yeah uh they were intending to go into crowded areas and open fire indiscriminately hoping to hit lots of people it that's not quite as hard to pull off when you're moving if you aren't aiming at something specific it's a bit easier to pretend that mike doesn't understand that is so far beyond the realm of possibility for me he absolutely knows this shit yet he pretends that he doesn't

so he can spin these fucked up conspiracy narratives to protect his precious guns again this isn't questioning world events this is intentionally misinforming people to build propaganda narratives this is the business that info wars is in well that and movie reviews that's the other business yeah yeah i wouldn't even go oh i wouldn't say they were doing too much reviewing so much as like that's well i mean i guess i guess a review i guess a review is like you should see this so fair they are in the business of movie reviews you're right you're right elitism yeah um so in this next clip alex argues that the el paso shooting was fake uh for a weird reason he has a very strange reason uh this whole situation i mean let me tell you if you just shot 20-something people i don't

care what police department is you're gonna get in your ass kick some this guy does not have a blemish on it and i guarantee you this guy would have been jumped on you'd have a black guy with a bloody nose he's lucky but no nothing's going on something's going on i think it's really fucked up uh for a thing for alex to be using the absence of police brutality to be a standard by which he judges if something was real or not i mean there's countless examples of shootings where people are taken in with that incident generally when they're white and they surrender yep dylan roof and james holmes both come to mind as shooters who were taken in without being beaten up i don't know what to say other than i would hope that police never take it into their own hands just to rough people up for

no reason even if they have just committed a crime that seems like exactly the kind of jack bootery that alex seems to have based his entire career on being against given that it seems so weird to hear him legitimately suggest that the el paso shooter was probably not the real shooter because cops didn't beat him up sort of implying that the normal thing for cops to do in his mind is beat people up he's got a sick mind this guy yeah i mean on the other hand the normal thing for cops to do kind of seems to be beat people up so i get that right thought process he's because cops are are uh you know uh but he's not saying that to argue against cops beating people up i know that's an important distinction that's what i yeah yeah that's that's what i'm saying yeah so

i guess that means that this guy wasn't the real shooter or something but now alex argues that there were a bunch of shooters which is something that he is kind of going off of you know there were first hand accounts of people who are saying that they thought there were or that they heard that there were yeah but again a lot of that is not necessarily indicative of total truth i saw that in the in the immediate aftermath of like it's possible that there may have been and and it's like okay everybody is saying it's possible and there's a high likelihood that we'll we'll get when we get more information it that it will be or it won't be but nobody knows and it's in the immediacy of a fucking tragedy like this so much information is flying around yeah wires get crossed

yeah for for anybody to have been like there were you know every single time there is something like this there are suspicions of multiple shooters there are people who are there on the scene who think that they might have been multiple shooters a lot of the times that can be caused by like echoing gunshot right um sounds from different directions right um and so i don't really care too much about those uh first hand accounts at least it seems pointless to engage with them yeah but alex has another reason to think there was a second shooter anna giro tolly is a writer for the washington examiner she says according to my law enforcement sources in el paso who gave me the apprehended shooter's name and age a second suspect was killed

when police responded to the walmart shooting police have not disclosed this info yet mayor says otherwise but my sources says second suspect is dead that's a real tweet anna giro telly did tweet out that law enforcement source of hers had told her that a second suspect had been killed but by the time alex is on air here on monday she tweeted out a clarification based on an update she received it turned out the police had detained a second person who was armed at that at the scene but they released him it was a case of somebody passing along bad information based on the chaos that was unfolding at the scene this is the sort of thing that happens during every crisis and tragedy and it's why it's best for people who work for legitimate outlets

not to amplify uncredible uh unconserved reports when they do so it makes it easier for conspiracy theorists to weave the credibility of their outlet into the later conspiracies as we see alex doing here bad reporting and reports uh who uh reports of people who think that there were multiple shooters on the scene are not evidence of anything suspicious these reports are all investigated uh it's just that in the immediate aftermath of an event like this it's easy for misinformation agents to use any confusion any slip-up to build to uh to make it look like there's something more nefarious going on in the past i've likened it to concrete that's not yet dried in the immediate period right after an event like this alex and his ilk can easily

imprint their suspicions and narratives onto the story but once the cement dries once the actual information starts to come out that becomes a whole lot harder that's why alex made his video on saturday on his day off about this yeah immediacy is key which is another big reason that he desperately needs to get back on social media game is way easier right yeah it's uh if he was like a jesus lizard running across concrete yeah fair fair enough i'm sorry i had to come back fair enough it had to come back you knew it yeah you knew it um so alex thinks everything's fake uh and it was all set up and one of the ways that he tries to argue that here is to bring up david hog one of the guys from the parkland shooting and i think that's particularly offensive because he's

talking with mike adams the guy who made hog watch dot com uh and uh you know engaged in what could amount to targeted harassment of a child whatever um so anyway uh here's what alex has to say david hog said he was at home when the shooting happened and got there after but then he's in videos i'm inside i'm in the closet he's outside shooting i mean which david hog is telling the truth here this is based we talked about this before but this is based on um intentional misrepresentation uh by the right wing of a video where david hog says after school he came back to the school to shoot stuff he was in the school and then went home and then came back it's very simple but because he says that he you know left and went back to the school in that clip that they

can take out of context they're able to create the appearance that his story is inconsistent this is bullshit it's been explained over and over again yet alex continues to use it as some sort of a way like everything's set up all the media lies and yeah no you just you're you're the one doing it yeah it's pretty clear that our current strategy of like uh i suppose dealing with this stuff is to counter it uh with either information or i i suppose the the left's own version of misinformation uh is ineffective yeah that it's just not doing the job because he's still allowed to say this bullshit yeah yeah so something needs to stop at the root before we ever even get to like uh here's what here's snopes we need we need snopes to you know i think there just needs to

probably be civil consequences yeah there really does um i don't this shit can't go on but i don't think it should be from the government i just think that people i honestly think that um there should maybe be a class action lawsuit of all the people that alex jones has maligned yeah uh because it would probably be too difficult for like one of them to go through all the litigation right right maybe if tons of people who he's seriously maligned over the years got together i i think i i don't know what the answer is that's probably not it either but anyway alex uh you know he feels like he's being blamed for that el passive shooting and uh he has a he has a culprit for the blame who's putting the blame on him it's the splc

i'm gonna go with and you can see the media saying it's trump's fault it's all gun owners fault it's q anon's fault it's my fault yep it's paul joseph watchin's fault yep the southern probably law center that kind of writes the scripts for all this we know they ran elain city the oklahoma city bombing that even came out in federal lawsuits and court documents that they were controlling major white supremacist groups across the country they came out and said oh look it's q anon alex jones this guy's a fan of them off of people going on his social media taking down that he was a democrat and adding that it's us i mean that right there is just bombshell information this whole thing is unraveling my catam's incredibly quick well we know you'll be following and

covering it all probably will be poorly so we get back to the my life narrative there at the end too this is so essential jordan did you know that elohim city still exists i did not know that that's nuts that is nuts yeah eloha really yeah it does god damn it we got a man we got some shit to figure out dad elohim city was founded in 1973 by robert malar after he had run a couple of evangelical churches and camps around the country he had a smallish flock that he'd gathered and they settled in the woods in oklahoma to set up their isolated utopia free from government depression and that pesky multiculturalism oh also they were adherents to the christian identity movement and thus they didn't feel like they're white supremacist beliefs or actual white supremacy

was just a recognition that they were white and therefore god's people yeah ha interesting this keeps coming up uh they had a lot of connections to the arian nations as most right-wing separatists do for elohim residents were members of the arian republican army who committed a string of 22 bank robberies between 1994 and 1995 to get money to fund white supremacist groups many believe that the 400 acre elohim city compound provided a safe haven haven for a ra extremists to plan and train the splc was not running elohim city they definitely had an informant there for some time but nothing that alex is claiming to have been proven has been proven the splc was founded two years prior to elohim city so you'd kind of have to believe that it was one of their early projects

that they cultivated for 20 years or so before the oklahoma city bombing or i guess you could imagine that they somehow took over the compound which is pretty unimaginable considering robert malar was in charge until he died in 2001 at which point his son john is taken over it doesn't make sense that these hardline christian identity separatists now spades a spade dan they would shoot the splc trying to take over on site they might shoot anybody who's wearing a shirt that says spl and they just assume that it has the c after it yeah what alex is claiming requires evidence and he never provides it this is the same sort of bullshit he tries to pull when he says that the clan are all just feds it's his way of taking real rewing terror groups and entities that he's kind of some

ideological overlap with and then making them all fake oh sure the arian republican army robbed a bunch of banks as part of a plan to violently overthrow the government and they had deep connections to this christian identity compound but that was all just the splc none of it's real now those antifa contact contracts i found on fortan those are totally real improved that the soros is trying to start a race war to quote alex you see how that works god nice to see how his manipulation nicely done now jordan i know we're deep into this episode but i think we're about to get our second wind you know why because we had some bad guests so far tom papper shit mike adams terrible but i got a guest coming up for you i know a few things about him he's neo oh no get

out of here stop it stop it he is the problem of he's not even allowed to be on this show now this is it's today god damn it leo zegami is back these are the people who answer alex's call what the fuck is he doing on um it's unclear um but we do learn something alex is he brings up that he's about to be on the show and holy shit we learned something big about him that this was not a part of his backstory before okay we got leo zegami who's an expert on false flags and actually worked in the italian air force and was involved was that during the time of operation gladio that was a nato plan staging hundreds of terror attacks to blame it on the left to maintain control some of our other guests were in and around italy at the same time like steve pacinic

so um leo zegami again uh does not fail to bring the it turns out not only is he the air to the illuminati throne not only is the reincarnated jesus as admitted by the vatican and the jews not only is he single-handedly responsible for 9 11 he also apparently was involved in operation gladio leo zegami is so full of shit but god damn it he's ambitious and i really respect him for that according to his own bio he was dj'ing in the uk and had become a fixture at a bar called legends when his career was disrupted when he had to return to italy to quote do it obligatory year of bollocks in the military that was in 1987 so allegedly leo was in the military doing an obligatory year of bollocks and that somehow led him to get mixed up in gladio gladio was first publicly recognized

by italian authorities in 1990 so alex might be taking that to mean that it was operational until 1990 so leo could have been involved in 1987 but this is not accurate even if you believe the widest eyed conspiracy versions of what gladio was about it definitely was not in action as late as 1987 and a rave dj doing an obligatory year of bollocks before going back to the club circuit would not be involved in any of the clandestine operations that were going on to begin with but they weren't going on to begin with i he positions himself as like the forest gump of stupid hundred percent it is he is anywhere and everywhere that's even close to a thousand percent unreal is all bullshit fuck him but jordan you know what i love about this i love that the only

thing alex really has to sell this narrative to his audience on is that leo's italian that's all that's it that's it yeah he might as well have a fucking uh uh what's his name uh mario no uh shit uh father guido sarducci yeah yeah yeah yeah there's literally zero other proof uh of any of the things that leo's saying yeah that alone is enough like just him being italian yeah jesus christ everybody is stupid if you listen to anyone here fucking so bad also as it relates to steve pochennec what alex is referring to is how steve was involved in the botched hostage negotiation of kidnapped italian prime minister all don't morrow it's a really insane and complicated story that i would love to get into right now but we are way too deep into the

show and i honestly think it kind of deserves its own episode so we might do that uh in the future the tale of steve pochennec in italy which is real fucked up stuff so leo uh uh he's neo he's leo yes yeah and he's here to stay the prophet of matrixism yeah um so he comes in here and he has a different theory about these shootings and it's interesting because what you have to understand is like even over the course of the last like three hours that we've been talking and listening to these clips multiple different explanations have been proffered yeah um but they all are sort of compatible to each other and in some form they literally every explanation that has been offered has been as far away from akam's razor as like they are building a house around that very specific

razor in order to and it's in a fucking box locked tight even as the razor tries to escape and tell them the very obvious reality it's fucking guns yeah it's and uh dudes uh guns and dudes and white people uh toxic masculinity run amok yep um so but those aren't the theories that are so here's what they're doing basically as i see it there is a unifying theory that is behind all of the various different theories but they're throwing out a number of different things you know whether it's brain control or their leftists yeah yeah whatever feels best is what they'll run with right so in the day like the day after the next day um it's still in the sort of feeling it out phase a tiny bit before seeing like what we'll run with and i guarantee that this is now what

they're going to run with what leo zigami brings to the table because this is nuts last week we had this triggering word by one of the aspiring candidates this dark psychic force mentioned by mariam wilson williamson and we'll play that next segment since you mentioned it well what was she invoking there well this is a trigger word because once you trigger with these words subliminally the agents get in action and mariam wilson williamson actually published a tweet between her and the father of the air puzzle shooter that's right so so there is a connection that and we'll just say it it's a new age cult people think they're getting into the new age but really they're once they get into it they're being programmed you're getting close to slandering this father uh so yeah mariam

williamson said dark psychic energy and that was a trigger word to activate these shooters okay you know i know i i know a lot i know a lot about my impulses and they come from an upbringing of this type but god damn it if i didn't want to fucking slap leo zigami after i heard him say those words like it's never a good idea no violence and shit but fuck somebody needs to slap him i don't know that can't be done i don't know i think it can't do that it's interesting yeah also that tweet between the shooter's father and mariam wilson was five years ago so i don't know i don't know how deep can i and it was uh it was not a substantial tweet interaction who cares who cares shut the fuck up leo so alex asks a rhetorical go back to the matrix matrix ism where he came

from i guess is that what we're doing i think so he's yeah exactly so alex asks a question in this next clip that is meant to be rhetorical but i actually have an answer for him um and many spirals after asking this question not coming to a good answer uh into just i mean his his theory and i have this sense of urgency this sense of i'm upset at myself that there's something i need to do there's something i need to say uh to stop this because we know more is coming and we know both these guys were leftist and they were so sloppy they didn't even cover up their social media when they said i hate god i hate christians i hate fascists that means conservatives and christians i'm going to kill them and then it all gets taken down and replaced with fake stuff and you go to the

way back machine and the google archive and it's really them saying i'm a satanist hail satan and then we watch him in real time change it i've now learned on both of them and how huge is that how he's expanding this my life narrative now but when he starts that he's like uh what can i say to stop this honestly him saying that makes me want to cry it does for real i heard him say that i'm sorry the answer is literally the opposite of everything you fucking say it's probably nothing go away go away stop it and he says because we all know this is going to happen again yep that makes me want to fucking cry there's a very clear thing that he could do there that is very clean come clean admit that he's been scamming people for a very long time and

it's gotten way out of control yep um but he's not going to do that it's too deep i guess yeah so fucking monster i want to skip this next clip because just leo's again explaining this is all about trying to take guns he's like the u.s is one of the only countries where you can have guns that's not that's not true fuck off because we gotta i'm gonna skip it because we got to get to this next clip because not only was leo's agami in gladio we find out he was also your forest gump analogy is so right listen to this shit and i've actually infiltrated years ago the black block groups that were basically what antifa has become and those groups are very easily to both infiltrate manipulate and buy because i mean they are mostly of them are living with with money

that comes either from the rich parents or either from the state so he's infiltrated black block man he has got some solid improv traps improv chops there because there's no way he had that in his back pocket before getting on the show i started rambling about soros and antifa yeah and then he's like and by the way i was in black block like no way do you just pull that you know like that's pulled from thin air that i would love to that is solid shit i'm not in favor of torture so i would not do any torture but i would love to make some sort of an arrangement where leo's agami would have to answer my questions and just interview him yeah about everything yeah tell the truth or just answer the questions tell the truth tell the truth yeah i was going to say no i i would

i would actually see both i would be fine with both i would want one interview where he gets a lie and one where he gets to tell the truth i think i would prefer the one where he gets to lie because it'd be way more interesting yeah it'd be way more interesting well actually and that's probably not true if you told the truth those stories of his early dj days would probably be real crazy well i bet he doesn't remember much i bet he does you think so he is pretty lucid he said he was known as a i mean just of those days he said he was known as a the guy who's not all drugs ruin your memory that's fair that's fair um so uh alex makes a we're coming to the end here and in these last few clips i think um you see where alex um sort of the old alex not not like old old alex no no

the alex you you're used to in 2019 shows up he starts making panicky predictions he gets really extreme and then he ends the show with outright narcissism here's the first clip where he makes his uh insane prediction and keep in mind he's still throughout this episode both of these episodes is trying to defend himself by like i just question we just question the events uh keep in mind this is not questioning this is making a prediction we now know this is happening that's the rubicon we've passed they intend to remove populist and trump they're committed now and they're really gonna try it and when they finally try to remove trump and the rest of his support they're gonna shut the internet off so i think that's why we're also freaked out this is it this

is it folks they're gonna go for it right now they're gonna go for it that's that's not questioning things that's becoming they're gonna go for it that's the product of all the narratives that you've created over the course of the last two days yep this is the now i am experiencing the narratives that i have uh built along the way this is the natural end result of that if the if all of this other stuff that i've said over the course of these uh episodes is true then the globalists are making their move yeah which i mean we hear that all the fucking time but because of the severity of the real world situation it becomes so much worse like he's using real tragedy to say um a standard talking point of his that's what it all leads to is just the same shit yeah that's really

offensive going over the past two days of his show i it's almost like watching a man convince himself he's not okay yeah yeah it's like it because it seems like he's this entire thing is him creating all of these narratives and all and other people adding in narratives on top of that all of which is to distract himself from the fact that he's a fucking murderer you know well if you think that uh you might not be thrilled to hear uh as this episode wraps up he seems to be pretty he almost seems to be expanding who he'd like to see targeted uh by uh by folks democrats this year they love this kind of things and they like the love uh satan is because of course they are all prevalently ataste they're not necessarily satanist they are satanist

without knowing it because anybody who is an ataste is actually a satanist and that's a big problem that we're gonna have in the future we're gonna end up probably with a war of believers against satanist so this is that's right let's talk about that coming war with the satanist because it's here this is a war against satan it's god versus the devil that's all there's ever been all there will ever be stay with us so i mean he's calling for a holy war that he says is already here and it's a war between his version of christianity i suppose and all satanists who include atheists who are satanists but don't know they're atheists also christians who don't believe what glitter bug christians who are actually worshiping the devil all satanists the left satanists that you

hillary clinton is literally a demon yeah i'm sure you lump's islam in there too yeah oh for sure what is it's just a battle between his christian identity uh veering beliefs against everybody this is apocalyptic nonsense and it's fucking dangerous yeah i don't want i don't want to get into a war because the right wing terrorists committed an act of terrorism and then blamed it on the left and used it to justify calling for a holy war yeah i don't like that that seems that seems unfair at least at least it seems like an escalation yeah it seems uncalled for yeah so we have this last clip here and it starts with what i would describe as kind of an evangelical plea like sort of a you know we need to get right with god which is what you expect it's

it's super weird that a lot of people don't understand this and we don't maybe make enough of a point of it that so often the show does just turn into like god yeah it's just it becomes like a weird religious show televangelism yeah yeah but it very quickly veers off course into what i would describe as alex almost defining himself as what you need to find and they are planning a bloody revolution here they're planning massive censorship across the country in the world this is a time to be praying to christ for justice and for freedom and that god's spirit come into you and lead god and direct you but it's also time to be politically and culturally active and it's time to spread the word about info wars dot com and news wars dot com and override the ai sensors to override their

systems and to let people know hey here's the name that must not be spoken here's what the world fears here's the guest and the information and the history and the analysis that is the cure to the globalist poison there's a sense there that's almost like it starts with him saying you got to go get god but also there's a ramping up is like you got to get people to come to me i am the only answer to the globalist poison i am the cure that is a insane level of messianic narcissism that's coming on the heels of him talking with leo zigami about having a holy war yeah and in the context of all this stuff it's just this is insanity this whole thing is insane yeah yeah i've been writing this thing so i've been doing a bunch of research and do all kinds of different stuff and that led me into

rereading the new testament uh actually earlier today and if there is anyone who is going to hell according to jesus's rules alex is boom top of the list he's in trouble even in that clip he's nailed like half the beatitudes like he's gone with the sermon on the mount get the fuck out of here with that shit well that's just for glitterbug church even jesus's new covenant is gonna fuck him up yeah and he was divorced so throw that on top of there oh boy yeah i committed adultery throw that in there yeah he's he's in trouble and he is fucked i i mean we come to the end here and it's been long i'm exhausted uh and i emotionally and physically yeah i i look at this and i think it's kind of weird that we didn't talk that much about the shootings themselves or anything and i i don't

think that's weird at all i think that makes perfect sense i don't know if it's weird or not but i went where alex led me yeah and that's kind of where we where we are why would why would alex want to go anywhere near the reality the details yeah why would he want to go anywhere near that because you cannot learn anything about those shootings and not go oh fuck we've got a real problem yeah the details the details of these shootings point to many many problems but the shootings themselves are part of the problem of guns that's that's a you know i i we should absolutely be talking about white supremacist terrorism which is rampant right we should be talking about misogynist dudes who are legion right but man they wouldn't be able to kill

all these people if they didn't have fucking automatic rifles that's true if they didn't have all these fucking guns yep and maybe maybe there's a better converse there's a better conversation than i can have on the best sure gun control measures but they sure as fuck wouldn't have walked into a walmart and killed all these people if they didn't have a fucking rifle it's true and there's a hundred other problems that we're facing in this country yeah and you know i don't mean to give short shrift to any of them by focusing on this but it's what alex is talking about on these two days and yeah um anyway we'll be back on friday indeed we will something less this oh god please less this yeah too much i'm tired um but i can only imagine we'll be back

but we have a website it's knowledge fight dot com it is we're on twitter it's at knowledge underscore fight grand at go to bed george we're on facebook we are on facebook you can download our show by going to itunes you could also leave a review uh you could also just scour the internet for different things that have both knowledge and fight in them generally speaking we keep uh episodes of our show in the dg connection because you rarely see the edge e connection you know so we keep them in between the d and the g cool uh put a little line in there and you'll get it i don't feel like our outro is particularly appropriate uh for this episode so i will end by saying um i am the jesus lizard andy in chansas you're on the air thanks for holding

hello alex i'm a first name caller i'm a huge fan i love your work i love you