Knowledge Fight - #335: March 15-22, 2013

Episode Date: August 26, 2019

Today, Dan and Jordan retreat to the past to continue their investigation into Alex Jones' path toward Sandy Hook denial. In this installment, something seems to be up, as the gents find Alex beginning to accuse a lot of people of being actors. Alex also warns his audience that the Globalists are trying to get them eaten by coyotes.

I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys knowledge and your knowledge fight I need money Andi and Kanzos Andi and Kanzos Stop it Andi and Kanzos Andi and Kanzos

Andi and Kanzos It's time to pray Andi and Kanzos You're on the earth, thanks for holding Hello Alex, I'm a Christian college, I'm a huge fan, I love your work Knowledge fight No, no, no, no, no, knowledgefight.com I love you

Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan I'm Jordan We're a couple dudes, I sit around to acknowledge beverages and talk just a little bit about Alex Jones Indeed we are, Dan Jordan Dan Jordan Have you ever successfully bluffed someone?

I mean, I play poker quite a bit, yeah I mean, like have you been caught in a lie and been able to lie yourself? Great poker story, everyone loves poker story Okay, everybody loves a good bad beat story No, I bluffed somebody off a full house once with a pair of twos You bluffed somebody off a full house? Yep, and I ended up winning this poker tournament that we were throwing for a friend of ours Who was supposed to move away

And the whole reason we threw the poker tournament was in order to give him the money Right, right Basically, we didn't, we knew that you didn't want to be like, hey, here's a bunch of money Go on Right, right, right, but he wins a tournament and then holy shit, everybody feels good We had a good time playing some cards too So you fucked him I thought I was trying to lose the hand, I had a pair of twos

That's a good point, you were really going for try And so I ended up winning the tournament and I felt really bad about it Because I he wouldn't accept the money of course that I had won Of course not And so what I did is I threw one of my trademark parties afterwards I don't know where I picked this up. It might have been from movie or some friend There's a bathtub full of forties party Okay, but you buy a bunch of, I have no idea what movie that could have been

You buy a bunch of forties and you fill your bathtub with ice Put the bath, put the forties on ice Everybody who comes to the party gets to take forties out of the bathtub That is the worst night I can think of That was a great time I did have to kick somebody out of the party though because they were trying to sneak multiple forties in a bag Out of the toilet, come on You can't trust people, you just can't do it

There's always a bad apple dead Yeah, absolutely That's probably the thing that comes to mind most when I think of Bluffs I think that's a great story Great bathtub full of forties party This podcast where I know a lot about theme parties and Alex Jones And I genuinely don't know anything about either That's correct

So Jordan, today we got an interesting episode to go over Very uncommon structure No, that's not true at all Okay Very similar structure to most of our episodes Although there's an interesting thing at play And we'll get to that But before we do, I'd like to take a little moment to say thank you to some people who have signed up and are sporting the show

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I finally clicked those few buttons in order to get our show on So people can find that there If you have friends who maybe have thought about listening But didn't have iTunes Something like that Anyway, it's an option If they were in the forest Right

So that is step one of my fan service So how many plays does it take before we get a cent? I don't predict we ever will get anything And that's okay That's okay So Jordan, today what we're going to be doing Is we're going to be going over the span of March 5th I'm sorry, March 15th to March 22nd, 2013

Oh, okay, we're back in 2013 Yeah And the reason that going so long on this Is that you were on vacation last week And I decided that during that period of time One of the things that was opened up to me was I get through a lot of this Yeah, yeah, yeah

Because we are stagnating a little bit In 2013 Yeah, a little bit A little bit of a holding pattern It's Alex's fault No, we didn't do it There is a little bit of a Hey, we went back to try and figure out

When he starts doing the Sandy Hook Crisis Actors stuff And we are just like Wow, Alex is just on Piers Morgan's shit He is all over the place And it's not like you can just skip ahead I mean, you literally have to listen to the episode Before you can figure out it's a pile of shit You know, you can't just not listen to an episode

It's one of the frustrations of my job Otherwise we're going to miss out on some Somali pirates That's what's going to happen, yeah And also if you don't listen to all of them Then you don't really understand the development What's behind the rhetoric Which is what I'm most interested in Right

So we're going over this stretch of a little bit Like about a week of Alex's show Yeah And I think we might have some big developments So it's good that we went ahead and did this Also, I should say that during this time There's something that I've just I don't have any clips about

But it does bear mentioning that it's happening Because Alex is concerned about it And that is the 2013 Cypriot financial crisis Is coming to a head Gotcha So the banks and Cyprus are going through some trouble And I was thinking about it and I'm like Well, I'm not the best at international finance

And trying to explain it to people It would be It would take a whole lot of time And then it would be like 40 minutes of this podcast Me explaining like how much of the debt Was bad Greek loans Right Right

Economy Right And the tax havens, stannis of Cyprus Yeah Well, I mean, they put out a good album But after that, they really kind of mismanaged their money And they Come on

I think you're thinking of something else I'm saying What am I thinking? I don't know what you're thinking Come on, Cyprus Hill, Dan Oh God, damn it Okay

I was hoping you would jump there first Because I didn't want to do it I didn't want to do it In the membrane All right, fine So I just decided that like Alex's take on it is very standard for any time There's some sort of a money thing

And that is that the globalists are doing this And they're trying to cause Global financial collapse As opposed to looking at it and being like Well, this is some of the lingering effects From the 2008-2009 situation So I just decided that it's in and of itself Is an important global event

But for what Alex is doing It's not that important Except for a couple of ways That it extends into other areas And I'll talk about those But I don't I just We don't have the time to break down

This full situation We're all fine with that I appreciate that So here is an out of context drop From today's show Before we jump in Hanging with the devil, man Ya peep-a-poop-a-poop-a-poop

You know, it's fun Get down with Satan Woo, yeah This is a little scat A little scat about the devil Little Ella Fitzgerald Hanging out with the devil I like it

Scoop-a-poop-a-poop-a-poop Just imagine Alex in a fedora Hey, daddy-o I like the change You're like We're not doing an old blues man Hanging out with the devil That's boring

Let's go all the way with scat Toss it in there Devil So we'll start on the 15th And what we find here on this episode Is Alex is just continuing his insistence That basically we need to go kill Kim Jong-un Okay, all right

Now Kim Jong-un in just a year in power Has a craven look in his face Completely insane Running around saying Nuke, everyone, I'm all powerful Is he surrounded by a bunch of people Drunk on the blood of their fellow humans And so I have said that

You know, I'm totally anti-war When it's offensive But when you are openly running around Threatening to attack people I mean, he's up there doing North Korean artillery drills Just take him out You know, saying I'm about to attack you And aiming weapons

Boom, that's it I mean, you come to my house Have a gun in your hand Say I'm about to shoot you I'm not gonna say anything to you I'm gonna get a gun as quickly as I can to shoot you You got free speech Until you call for violence

It's good Oh boy, he should not say that That's a good line in the sand I would generally agree Although I would say that Like coming to someone's house with a gun And saying you're going to shoot them Is not really a speech issue

No There's a brandishing of a firearm There's other things that make that threatening Other than the speech I don't think North Korea is withheld by first amendment rules You don't think they're bound by the U.S. Constitution? I don't think so I don't think so

Sure I'm just gonna say that right now I think that this is interesting only in as much as like Alex is on Like a pretty militant path as it relates to North Korea And that's interesting And then the second piece of it is just a tacit understanding That even though free speech is protected in the United States There are limitations to it

Which is important Because Alex pretends Six years later Six minutes later No, come on He does not Maybe not six minutes But he, you know, even back in 2013

He has a lot of absolutist ideas about free speech And it's just incongruous with what he understands To actually be what free speech is about Now Kim Jong-un surrounds himself with people who are drunk On the blood of their fellow compatriots If I understand correctly Which might be more literal than you think Right

I imagine so Based on Alex's adrenochrome shit Right He might actually be talking about them being vampires Yeah It's unclear from context Well, if you, do you think they forced their fellow compatriots To get drunk prior to drinking their blood

So they would have a high BAC So they would get a, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah Would you get a buzz or a greater buzz? If you drank alcohol blood Yeah You'd probably get less You think so? Well, yeah

Be a depressant Well, I mean, just based on how much less alcohol there is in blood Than in alcohol Fair enough I think just based on that What about alcoholic blood? Well, that's just a cocktail then Maybe they drink cocktails

Have we considered this? You've just invented the worst Bloody Mary All right, let's end this show Let's get out Let's get out So in this next clip Alex has been talking about Kim Jong-un a bit And he's getting like that sort of the violence in him

He's talking about, you know, people come to my door I'll shoot him Right And it leads him to talk about his own violent history I'm the top of God, somebody starts fighting me I don't care how big they are I mean, they are They come get my face

I go completely caveman I can't help it Sometimes they, you know, don't ever get out of the hospital But the point here What? I mean, that's just further evidence that he probably Probably technically killed the guy Yeah

Sometimes they don't ever get out of the hospital Right I think that what he's describing too is like That is something that he needs to get help for Yeah Like if anybody, not just Alex Jones, was saying that like When I get aggressive, I turn into a caveman And I can't help myself

It's like, you need help Right That's a problem Right That is an untenable way to exist in society That's a fucking If you are, if you are like just completely controlled by the whims of violence You're messed up, man

No, if at any point in time you have no higher order thinking Which is what he's describing If you are simply overtaken by testosterone and adrenaline Then you're a danger to society Seems that way One who much like somebody who would walk up to your door And have a gun in their hand should be helped out Yeah

So this talk of violence ends up sort of Alex bragging about his own violent tendencies And then it spins out into him ranting about like demons and Dianne Feinstein And the space time continuum It's been a while since we've heard a good Feinstein insult It's about half an hour of just like rambling about nothing Yeah Just nothing going on Talent

It's a true talent Yes And then he ends up talking about this other thing that has been developing And that is that there are people, particularly Michael Moore He's been very public about this That want the pictures from Sandy Hook to be released Because there are tons of people who are saying it's fake And the motivation behind the desire to release the pictures

The crime scene photos is to cut that off Yeah That the accusations of it being fake Alex has a slightly different take Sure On why they want to do that Naturally You see, you see they want to show you those little kids

Their brains, their skulls, their blood Which is like a beautiful thing to them And your pain watching you have your heart touch It's a joke to them Let's show them the dead kids That's how we'll get there, guys So they can have their terror upon us I said I'd go to your calls and I haven't done that yet, have I?

Certainly haven't Nope So that is what he believes Believes they want to show the pictures because they love it Right Which is gross It's a real gross mentality They want to show the pictures because they love and glorify the death

Yes But they also want to use that to trick you into letting them take your gun Right, which will then inevitably lead to a tyranny Right, right, right And they'll get to see it all the time Yeah, I think that's probably behind that I think that's in the background But I mean, there's so many mass shootings

It's not like they're running low They love it Yeah, okay And this sort of thinking extends into this next clip Where Alex is discussing an instance of when gun confiscation led to genocide Okay Oh boy, I bet this is 100% historically accurate This is interesting stuff

Okay I mean the UN killed over a million people in Rwanda They ran that Over a million people You can't just say that Low estimates are 500, 600,000 It's well over a million actually And it's all the UN failed to stop it

All the UN ran the whole deal After they took the guns Then they had the majority kill the minority Who'd been the majority And they convinced, well, you know, turn your guns in We'll be friendly One black group against the other Well, they killed the Christians

So Well One quick but important point The vast majority of both the Hutu and the Tutsi in Rwanda were Christian There were religious figures who fought against the genocide And those that did not But the way Alex is presenting this Is if the Tutsi were Christians and the Hutu were not

Is a complete lie That is absolute nonsense He is just talking shit To try and create some sort of a white victim hood narrative Right A Christian victim hood Which is Right

In his mind Completely connected Yeah It is interesting that he can turn a genocide in Africa Between two tribes of black people into a Why are they being mean to white people? I guess that that's so big a piece of his shit That that's why my brain did that little hiccup

Yeah, yeah, yeah It is just the things I identify with are actually the victims of this Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah It is very much a personalization In the wrong way So the situation that unfolded in Rwanda In the early 90s is an intensely complicated one There's no one factor that led to the genocide

And there's not one answer of what we as a global community Could have done to stop it Answering either of these questions involves a lot of possibilities A lot of missed opportunities to de-escalate the situation To recognize the warning signs And ultimately when you look back you see pretty much nothing but tragedy I know that Alex's solution to everything literally Is just everyone should have a gun

But honestly if you look seriously at the dynamics that were in play in Rwanda That's just a childish solution to suggest Even if every Tutsi had a gun It probably wouldn't have been able to stop the horrors that transpired One of the most indelible images of the Rwanda genocide is that of a machete The Hutu militia, the Inter-Homway, used machetes as their primary weapon Because guns were too expensive for what they had planned Machetes were reusable whereas bullets were not

There's no reason to assume that the victims of their violence Were any more able to afford a gun Whether or not they had access to one An important consideration is that as the campaign of genocide began Tutsi weren't allowed to own anything It becomes kind of a dishonest framing to say that they weren't allowed to own guns Since technically they also weren't allowed to own a chair But I wanted to get to the bottom of this

I wanted to understand where the idea that Rwandan Tutsis had their guns confiscated Before they were massacred I wanted to sort this out Because in all the materials I've ever read about the Rwandan genocide That's not a detail that comes up And yet it comes up very frequently from these gun weirdos And they are implying that it happened before things broke out So that would imply that all of the confiscation of property

That happened during the massacres and the campaign of genocide Isn't what they're talking about So I don't know, I was trying to look into this Right I can only find two sources that all of the claims online trace back to On all of these strange poorly constructed blogs Right The first is references made to the Nairobi Protocol

For the prevention, control, and reduction of small arms and light weapons In the Great Lakes region and the Horn of Africa This absolutely was a resolution that sought to limit civilian ownership of guns But only what each participating country decided was illegal civilian ownership of guns I have to suspect that this is what Alex is referring to Since he's talking about the UN in that clip Which was definitely involved in the Nairobi Protocol The Nairobi Protocol was largely targeted at the illicit trade of weapons internationally

And the language is pretty clear about that It does contain language about confiscating illegal weapons And registering authorized firearms So I can understand why gun weirdos would be pretty upset about that The problem though is that when they try and link this with the genocide in Rwanda That is a big problem Since the Nairobi Protocol was signed in April 2004 Which is after

That doesn't sound right I've seen folks try to link this to Sudan as well But the war in Darfur started a full year before that Nairobi Protocol was signed This piece of evidence just doesn't check out from a timeline perspective Surprise, it was uh what was it posted by white guys or super great 69-69 Might as well Yeah And so that's one of the like more concrete pieces

And I've seen that even discussed on like the NRA's website Not not not specifically saying that this caused either of the campaigns of genocide But tying them together Exactly Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah In ways that are dishonest Yeah Based on chronology

Right The second piece of evidence I can find is a mini documentary called Innocence Betrayed Which makes the argument basically that all genocides have been preceded by gun control measures Effectively saying that if you're for gun control You knowingly or unknowingly are going to cause a genocide In the documentary there's a section about Rwanda Where in the narrator says quote Laws and poverty have kept the victims from getting weapons to defend themselves

As they're saying this an image flashes on the screen saying quote All offensive and concealable arms are prohibited With the words are prohibited outside the quotation marks Okay Oh that's lame But I'm not sure what that means Yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

I don't know where this is coming from Right And there's absolutely no indication of what it's citing in the film Wait so there's quotes but there's no attribution to the quote Nothing That's fantastic It just flashes up on the screen Well it was a weird choice for a softcore porn to have that as a theme

Innocence What is it? Innocence lost Innocence betrayed Innocence betrayed Man I used to watch that on Cinemax They got great blurbs 10 years old, yeah

They got great blurbs from Ron Paul and Ted Nugent So cool Great Good work guys So those words are flashed up over an image that seems to be presenting itself as a legal document But the heading says Gazetti Yaleta Which is the name of a major newspaper in Rwanda The official Gazette of the Republic of Rwanda

However the name of it is actually Igazeta Yaleta Which makes me a little bit suspicious of the graphic They have a misspelled name of the Gazetti Every time we talk about these documentaries There are always those little things where it's like If you had a good point You would have spent God you would have spent enough time to present it like you weren't a piece of shit

Well I You know like you can get away with this project veritized You can get away with this Alex Jones shitty documentary Because people are going to believe it and they don't know any better Well yeah it's at best what it is is a superimposed Unattributed quote put over a picture of a newspaper That is referenced correctly Probably

Yeah So superimposed over this image of the supposed legislation Just the words Article 15 Which is meant to suggest I believe that this quote is from Article 15 Presumably from the Rwandan Constitution Article 15 of Rwanda's constitution has nothing to do with guns It's about people having equality under the eyes of the law So it can't be referencing that

But then again the current constitution of Rwanda was put in place in 2003 So maybe Article 15 of the previous constitution was about guns Nope Their 1991 constitution did include an Article 15 and it says quote Asylum rights shall be recognized within the conditions defined by law Extradition shall be authorized only within the limits prescribed by law There's no version of Article 15 that exists in Rwandan law That has anything to do with the ban on quote offensive and concealable arms

You're you're no no no it's the 15th article of the paper that day Oh See it's not any Article 15 it's the 15th article Well It's a very easy mistake to me I understand they're using good MLA Yeah exactly yeah yeah So if you're keeping score we have a misspelled headline

heading of a Rwanda newspaper being used as an image over which a seemingly fake quote about Rwandan Gun laws is being presented to argue that restrictive gun laws preceded the outbreak of the genocide with a cryptic reference to an Article 15 which doesn't seem to exist From everything I can tell this is a complete fabrication and to my eyes It seems like a disgusting appropriation of one of the most horrific chapters in modern history Bent to serve as a prop for this gun gun agenda Man it's so good that that's an isolated incident that we rarely see people Abend these horrific genocides to their purposes

It shouldn't surprise you to learn that this film was created by Jews for the preservation of firearms ownership There it is One of alex jones's earliest sponsors The oldest snapshot of info wars on the way back machine from may 1999 Has a link to their website alex and the Jews for the preservation of firearms ownership go way back The organization was started by a big old gun weirdo named Aaron Zellman And has been exercising absolute extremism on behalf of gun ownership since 1989 Interestingly with very little time on google

I found both Larry Pratt and Ted Nugent associating themselves with Zellman and his group as a rebuttal to accusations that they're anti-semites For Pratt it was when he was fired from the 1996 Pat Buchanan campaign after it was revealed that he had ties to neo-nazis And was at the rocky mountain rendezvous For Ted Nugent it was after he got in trouble for posting an image on facebook asking quote So who's really behind gun control with pictures of diane feinstein chuck schumer and 10 others posed gun grabbers All with israeli flags on their faces, huh? He legitimately might as well have been reposting stuff from stormfront That is bananas that you can get away with like oh, yeah, okay fine. So i'm friends with some neo-nazis

I'm also friends with jewish nazis. Come on. It's not about the jew part. It's about the nazi part That's what i'm a fan of when Ted Nugent got in trouble for this image His explanation is so laughable. This is ridiculous shit Quote in my rush between songwriting jams and musical recording frenzy don't get the fuck out of here Get the fuck out Ted Nugent in my rush between songwriting jams and musical recording frenzy All I saw was images of people dedicated to disarm us. I made no connection whatsoever to any religious affiliation What fucking what really brass balls the rush between it? Oh, i'm too busy working on my 10 different albums I haven't had a hit since 1979

And everything after that i fucking phoned in i'm not gonna start Again, I should point out the 12 israeli flags are kind of the main point of that image They're really hard to miss Also over the image of senator frank lutenberg There's even text that says quote gave russian jew immigrants your tax money. Oh boy. It's very Over this image. You know what the craziest thing is i think it would be He would totally get away with it if he were just like i genuinely didn't know that was the israeli flag I'm ted nugent. I'm professionally a moron now. Let's go with strangle

Exactly So, uh, well, I definitely believe there are jewish people who are opposed to gun control measures I absolutely do and I don't want to demean them or minimize That as an existing group Um, i'm positive that a large portion of membership within even jews for the preservation of firearms Uh, uh fire arm ownership. Yeah, sure. I believe that a Vast number of people who are in that group are probably

Uh concerned citizens jewish or otherwise who uh, uh, just have Feelings about gun issues. Yeah, I'll take your word for it. Well, I'm I'm I'm willing to believe it Yeah, I'm willing to believe it It seems like people like ted and larry have a relationship with them that feels too similar to someone saying I can't be racist because I have a black friend Yeah, the organization itself seems to serve as a crutch to some of these people who have connections with nazis in order to minimize and distract from Uh, those connections

Anyway, jews for the preservation of firearms ownership is responsible for a whole lot of a historical propaganda that goes around in Patriot gun weirdo circles about gun laws and the spear consequences of their enactment and apparently this stuff about rwanda is just another one Yeah, they have done a lot of pushing of the uh, the hitler took the guns before And that is what allowed him to commit the holocaust. Sure. Sure, uh, which Fine, I would implore anyone to look into because that's Ridiculous. Yep. So that's uh, that is alex is uh, is a little off on on that Yeah, fuck for a number of reasons. That's only one of the large reasons. Oh, yeah that 22nd clip we heard was completely fucked up

So in this next clip, uh, alex takes a call he gets it goes to a caller and the guy brings up illinois gun laws And then alex says something that I find troubling Uh late last year like mid december the supreme court gave illinois 180 days to come up with some sort of right to carry law No, that's happened all over the country and they just ignore it. Absolutely. Yeah Their answer was to stage sandy hook and of course they did it. Go ahead. Sorry. Whoa. Oh, that's okay. There's no doubt by the way folks So the reason that I find that troubling is that I think that there's still a difference between Saying that it was staged and saying that the globalists did it

Right. I think that this is much closer to the they used actors Then saying, you know, they used a patsy or or whatever. Yeah, if it's staged, it's not They're not saying that it was like directed or anything. They're saying it was a production. It was Made up. It was it was all there to play out in front of our eyes and none of it actually happened It's not as overt as I need it to be but it's much closer. Oh, yeah It's the the language that he's using is is it appears to be heading in that direction And this is this is closer to the bad side of it. I mean, it's all bad Right, but it's closer to that terrible side than uh, then he has been in the past. I can understand it being uh hyperbolic

metaphor But I mean when you say staged if you're going by what words mean Then yeah, and it also has to live in the context of so many of the fringe online Theories that are already going around absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah when he tells a caller like this was staged It's not like that is a foreign idea to a lot of conspiracy weirdos at this point They will hear that as him saying that these were actors Yeah, most likely and that we haven't really talked about it so much Chances are if he's been following along with the online debate outside of his show the online debate or debate the online fervor

Turned to it was entirely fake pretty quickly So that he's coming back to it now and saying it was staged most likely means he's relying on more current Uh, you know it's in infosphere. It feels that way. Yeah So our last clip here from the 15th, uh, alex has an interview with a guy who got fired from the 1996 PAPU canon campaign because it came out that he had links to neo nazis. There we go. Uh, larry pratt All right, and he wants to do he wants to talk about gun laws and uh, I think he thinks he has a really good point here But I would say he doesn't Didn't feinstein get a wonderful comeuppance from senator cruz

Oh my well senator feinstein if the second amendment permits the banning of certain guns Uh, then by that Logic does the first amendment ban permit the banning of certain books But others being protected and does the fourth amendment permit the The invasion of some people's privacy, but not other people's property privacy. She went off on that So I think what he thinks is like this really genius point is that like, ah, there are shades of their degrees of the second amendment Diane feinstein saying but does that mean there's degrees of the first amendment in the first clip of this episode alex said Yes, there are. Yeah, there absolutely are and there are tons of books that have been banned in us history

Jesus only ted cruz and these right wing morons could see, uh a the comeback Oh, so if something has nuance does everything have nuance as an own Like that's the only way that you can you have to be a lunatic to be like What are you saying that not everything is absolute? You're stupid is a good comeback free speech is protected by the constitution But there's limits to that free speech. There's no reason to think that you know Owning a firearm is protected by the second amendment, but there are limitations to owning a firearm Yeah, there's no there. It's absolutely completely in line with every understanding of how society's work. Yeah. Yeah. Yep

It's just it's sociopathic the way this thinking works. Yeah Um, so he has an interview with joel scousen, but I don't really care the scous. Uh, it's very boring scousin scousin to uh, Say that it's good. It's a good idea to attack, uh, north korea basically right joel scousin is I hate offensive wars, but preemptive wars aren't offensive wars It seems like it's mostly a plug for joel scousin's book. Uh strategic locations Strategic relocation, excuse me. Right. Right. Um, and and so like they're talking about the possibility of like nuclear war And what doesn't that mean that you need to know where to bug out to got to get scousin's book

Seems intentional. Wow. So we get to the the 17th because uh, uh, the 15th was a friday Yeah, so we jump to the the sunday show and alex has a big big narrative That will continue throughout pretty much the rest of our time I don't think I have a ton of clips of it, but he brings it up over and over and over again And it's uh police state shit. Oh, they're coming the guy facing, uh, what is it? Uh, five to seven years in prison with a state felony Uh in florida because he released a couple of heart balloons for his girlfriend when she came out of the house And the state police saw it came over said did you release those balloons said? Yeah

Hey, that's uh environmental damage. Uh felony or you're man. He's gonna get convicted and go to prison Law and order balloon unit special balloon unit get out of here So there seems to be an element to this case that alex jones does It seems like he's intentionally leaving it out very conspicuously surprise In this episode, he just keeps going on and on about this guy who's arrested because he released a bunch of balloons And a romantic gesture for his girlfriend, which is a crime in florida because of environmental protection laws Apparently it turns out you can't release more than 10 balloons in a 24 hour period Which is admittedly a very strange limit. You know, it's very weird

There needs what you had to have found the story behind that law, right? I didn't I there was no story behind that law There has to be a story behind that. I'm sure it was just a weird negotiation that happened. They're like, all right 10's fine For what? I don't know. Well, if you have a group of people can each of you release 10 It's a great question. I don't know the I have no idea So what are you telling me that the fourth amendment says that I can only release so many balloons? It's very weird The man in this case was anthony breastfield and while he was initially charged with the felony prosecutors

Obviously didn't file a case based on that It would have been literally impossible for them to succeed with that case and they knew it So they didn't even pursue the case This was absolutely a hundred percent an instance of a cop looking for a charge to give someone And when nothing immediately popped up the cop fell back on. Well, you released too many balloons. Yeah, uh as a strategy I need to harass someone exactly turns out you had a lot of balloons the important variable. I want a jury trial on that The important variable that alex is leaving out of this coverage Intentionally, I believe is that brassfield is a black man

alex is intentionally leaving this out of the story because he wants the angle to be the environmental protection laws of Just a trojan horse to bring into the police state The last thing he wants is for his audience to consider for a second that maybe what's actually going on here Is that this is maybe an instance of harsh overpolicing of minorities, which is probably a more Um realistic way to look at the story based on the reporting I saw on it That does seem to be what the the case is. I fucking hate stories like this Yeah, it's a bummer so many of these bummer stories and especially you hate to see The reality of the story be warped by someone like alex in order to serve their purposes

Well, and it's like the it's like the mcdonald's story that everybody still pulls that bullshit on where the woman with the cup The lady with the cup the hot the hot coffee. There's still that like well you you bought coffee Oh, you didn't know it was going to be hot and then you read into it and you're like, oh no No, this is a story about corporations fucking over everybody It's not a story about a woman who didn't know coffee was going to be hot I I 100% admit that I do believe that she knew coffee was hot. Okay. I will I don't remember the details I will agree with you. I remember looking into it a long time ago But I don't remember the specifics enough to speak on it, but I'm going to trust your version

Yeah, the the the basic point of it is Corporations were cutting costs wherever and whenever they could to the detriment and pain of everybody around them And they'd already been warned not to do it. She should absolutely should they should have been sued way before this And it's just a few infuriating thing because every time you look at this these are turned into these like shorthand, you know, like Oh, you know, oh, women don't know that coffee is supposed to be hot and you're like, fuck you Yeah, you're not mad at the right person. Yeah Corporations are people they are So, uh, alex

Goes off ranting about this The the guy who gets arrested for balloons and is going to go to prison for five years because of entire mental cops or whatever This is a natural transition for him to talk about how he got jammed up for giving out flyers itself by self Sure, sure as we've discussed already great So he complains about that and this caller has a really good question for him about that situation What I haven't heard you report on and I'm very interested in though Are the number of internal affairs complaints that you and your street team have filed against the various officers in these various departments? It is important to file these even if you don't think you'll get a satisfactory outcome

Because at the very least you're getting these reports one record just like if you're tracking crime No, no, you're right and and and I always say we should be tougher with people I myself have a soft heart and don't even want to get them in trouble because I know the dirt bags according to them At shot by southwest ordered it So this is so damn indicative of what's wrong with alex's approach toward the supposed tyranny. He imagines he's fighting against He complains that he was a victim of gestapo jackboot tactics while he was out just trying to give out free magazines during south by southwest The story has now become embellished to involve not only the actual police trying to intimidate him But also hired goons threatening his street team, which is a pretty seriously fucked up thing to happen if it were true at all

alex's inaction proves to me that this story is most likely fiction Because it clearly demonstrates that what he says is the problem tyrannical police is not something He's at all interested in solving. He wants attention out of this He wants to create the appearance that he's having his rights trampled on He wants the opportunity to turn this into a sales pitch But what he doesn't want is to use this as an opening to help bring about real change in the system He makes money by railing against because that would be bad for business First they came for my speech free speech rights and I lied about it and screamed about it

And I made a lot of money and nothing happened Then they came for minorities rights And I lied about it and screamed about it on the radio and made a lot of money and nothing happened And then I just made a lot of money and nothing happened because I'm not going to do anything good for fucking anybody I mean if your only reason to exist as a business is to scream about out of control government and police oppression Why would you ever try to decrease the level of out of control government and police oppression? Yeah Why would you put yourself out of business? Why would you ever go through the painful and difficult process of advocating for real change and pursuing it through the proper channels when

Just creating a fictional version of your own struggle and yelling about them on the radio is a much more profitable strategy Alex's excuse that he has too good of a heart to file internal complaints is such a cowardly cop out If he saw a dollar sign in it, he'd be filing those reports and honestly him filing internal reports really only works against his interests If he's making all this stuff up, which he almost certainly is then he could get in trouble for filing false complaints against people Conversely, if he's not making it up Genuine departmental reform is completely counter to his agenda if the police start operating in ways He's all in favor of he'll have nothing to yell about It's just to me. I think that's so damning when a guy calls in is like I'd like to ask about like did you file internal reports?

And I was like, well, I don't want to get people in trouble Why would you not want to get gestapo jackboot thugs in trouble? Well, because they got their hearts in the right place, Dan. That's such bullshit. That is such bullshit It's so against what he stands for. Well, not all nazis are bad It's such a crack in his facade. Yeah, and it just flies past like I'm sure most people listening Um, who were fans of his didn't even Consider for a second that like oh, hold on. This is crazy. Yeah This this really makes it seem like he doesn't mean any of this shit. Yeah. Well, I mean the the

The sex work shit is going to be number one for me on it. Oh, they're trafficking women. Oh, they're trafficking children They're doing all this and you could make any one of 10 million just even a positive a slight He's not even donated five bucks to somebody trying to stop sex trafficking I agree with you. The reason that I think it's slightly different is in this case Alex has standing to file these complaints of the police department That's true. This is something that was done to him. Yeah, so and he doesn't take action on no, of course not So it's even more damning. Yeah, you're right. You're right. There's like, well, there is you could sue the city You could bring about departmental change in the way that you feel is in line with the constitution

Or the state or even you could make a little money if it was true Sure But it would be too hard and he knows that you would lose that case probably because he's embellishing and making all this Shit up. Well Barnes isn't here yet and Barnes was whispering in his ear. He's suing people left and right Oh my what if Barnes is around in 23rd? He'd be Alex would be gone by 2019. Yeah That's right. He would be replaced by Barnes. He'd be living on an island somewhere She's like, all right. Here's millions of dollars disappear. Alex. I need to take over So this last clip from the 17th because it's not that interesting of show

Alex is complaining about the affordable care act. Sure. He has a pretty interesting take on Things that were in that bill Um, is this true under under hr 32 section 25 21 that we all have to be chipped by obama care Is that uh, yes, no, no, it does pay for chipping of the american people It doesn't make you do it yet, but it does fund the micro chipping of the american people So we're all getting chips man. All right. I wouldn't mind a chip first things first Of course the affordable care act didn't require or pay for people to get microchips naturally However, there was language in the early house versions of the bill that really got dum-dums on the right all worked up

Particularly ones with preoccupations about the end times and the hashtag mark of the beast Sure, sure, sure, sure The provisions of the early draft were related to creating a database for the department of health and human services of people Who had things like pacemakers and replacement body parts Their reasoning was that if there was a centralized database for these sorts of things They could more easily study the efficacy of implantable devices and probably more importantly They could inform consumers way more quickly about any future recalls of medical products like the of this sort Which is really important. Okay, so it was people planning ahead with technology and the right was like technology is terrifying

And went crazy. Yeah, I mean it's it's really really important when you have implantable medical devices One gets recalled knowing who you need to get it out of yeah, absolutely very seriously dangerous Yeah, it's a faulty pacemaker or an insulin pump or something like it's very and the number of people who file complaints with the FDA of injuries related to implantable devices is much higher than people realize It has to be yeah, and it's inside you. Yeah, and uh, there are some faulty products. Yeah, unfortunately So these databases Are really important for obvious reasons However, this language was taken out of the final version of the aca that eventually passed through congress

So alex here is basically just lying about a thing that doesn't even end up being in the bill Um, and by this point he has every reason to know that it's not yeah these databases actually already exist The FDA for instance, uh, which is housed under the dhhs keeps a registry of people who have implantable medical devices because without that They'd be unable to appropriately respond to consumer complaints While there's obviously benefits to expanding the data available to provide people with better care This complaint that alex is making isn't a real thing at all It got taken out of the bill alex is just yelling at shadows and misleading his callers callers paranoid about something and alex is like Yeah, right. Yeah, I mean and it's not like there's only one model of pacemaker

So how do you know which model of pacemaker you have for sure? So even if they put out a call of like pacemaker needs to be Replaced you don't know for sure if that one's yours or not I would hope that if I had a pacemaker, I would know that But I don't know. Yeah, I don't know I would be surprised if you did I would hope Uh, yeah, there's uh, there's there's a ton of just logistical And public health reasons why something like this would be very

Uh helpful important save lives Or it could be the mark of the b-stand. Did you consider that possibility? Sure. Okay. See there we go See, I understand where alex's argument comes from is this idea Oh, we can move on No, I mean the kernel of the argument is built on like, okay So they make it okay for you to keep a registry of people who have Implantable devices and then they're gonna just have everybody slippery Next thing you know, the dhhs is going to require a database of people with teeth

Of course, and then they got a list of everybody and the only way you'll be able to go off the grid is to have all your teeth removed Right It's ridiculous. Yeah, I get I get where that sort of paranoia is built on right I get the beginning stages of it, but people just It's it's uh, oh no for sure for sure So we get to the 18th and alex is going on some paranoia shit um And we've already heard him say that there's going to be a false flag coming

And as we know the boston bombing is less than a month away right around the corner But here's the problem. What's that his predictions are very specific about what's going to happen And it's not a bombing in boston during the It's not. Oh, it's not that they cannot have a public debate about it until they finally have a trigger event To blame the financial collapse on and i've said that's probably in my gut would be something like a Low yield nuke going off in chicago And people ask why do you say chicago ozzy man? chicago dallas cleveland

Because the cfr likes to brag and they've said in three different reports dallas cleveland chicago and denver they've also said denver and they just keep saying that and then they over the weekend they had a Radiation alert on the subway trains in illinois and freaked out had another one in another place and and and helicopters flying around And and and and i've seen it movies and film and they just always tell you what they're going to do before they do it Sure, so alex's prediction This is not the first time that he said first of all a nuke and chicago He's being very clear that this is the prediction

He's making without saying they're going to nuke chicago specifically because he knows that's not going to happen And it's a ship prediction and all of his reasoning is is real shoddy So when the boston bombing does happen he's going to take credit for predicting it But if you look at the actual predictions first of all cleveland sent like uh, uh, the chicago boston wasn't even on the list No, it's it's not it's not on his radar. He's talking about nukes Uh, it's it's nuts. I assume that your main avenue of research for this kind of comment though was Does the cfr like to brag? um

Do we have a documented history of the council of foreign relations? Bragging about things. Can I be honest with you? What's that? I didn't think that was something worth looking into now I feel like people's definition of bragging might be different And I felt like we could get in the weeds on that pretty quickly um, also the cfr membership role is a gigantic Tons of just business owners. So I imagine some of them are braggarts, right? But I think it has to be the entire see Richard haas. Oh, yeah, he's for sure bragging bragging Talks about his golf scores all the time

Oh, wait, that's the president and bombing chicago. Uh, yes. No, that was my research. I live in chicago. Yeah Did we get hit by a bomb? Look at that. No, okay. All right. I've not been nuked So alex talks more about this here in this next clip And they don't care if I get up here and say they're gonna nuke chicago Oops, we don't just say oh, he didn't really say that He said that after the fact on video and said that it was a you know, you know said in 2013 But it was you know, he he didn't really say that

You know, and you'll be like, well, I heard him say it. No, look this youtube Uh is from the time. Oh, that's a fake time stamp. He uh, he didn't he didn't predict 9 11 uh, he didn't um He didn't say they'll blow up the world trade center and blame it on bin Laden on july 25th Uh, 2001 The cfr really bragged about that one Told free number to join us because I want your take on all of this 800 So, I mean you got just like really specific

Uh predicting yeah going on. Yeah, it's getting very specific. It's it's gradually becoming more refined to they're gonna nuke chicago Right. Um, and I guess alex's way around this Once the boston bombing does happen is be like, well, they heard me say that they were gonna nuke chicago So they changed their plans, right? I assume that's how he would get around this. Yeah, uh, but I don't care naturally the playbook that he has outlined for the Globalist to do after he's correct is the playbook. He follows after he's incorrect Yes, um, so the rest of this episode the 18th is not worth going into a lot of it is just yelling about the cypress bank situation and I don't

like I said the the It's so standard alex financial shit. It's all just exactly the same and I don't Care, I mean I care. I care for the people in cypress and I care for 2013 sure I care for people around the world who are dealing with financial, uh crises for sure I don't mean to be insensitive about that, but alex's version of it is not something I'm particularly interested in so we jump to the 19th and it begins with I would say an hour long yelling about obama being the devil Okay, it's legit. All right, so long. I'm listening. That's a long time. I'm sitting there listening. I'm like Wow

Wow, it's just constant obama. You're the devil. I have a hard time Believing that you can sit through that. It's tough. It is. It is really tough We don't talk about this often enough, but really you didn't you listen to the whole hour Let me skip the commercials. You didn't skip. Nope. God. I wouldn't make it through 15 minutes I'd be like move ahead move ahead. I think during it. I pass. I did go Well, then you didn't hear all of it. I did Um, so here's just a little taste of that Yes, obama is the antichrist. Sure. He is a antichrist. He is the spirit of the world

He is the spirit of the lzba battle net leviathan the devil He is the devil barack obama is the devil And any of you that turn yourselves over Willingly to deception and willingly to lies and willingly to hurt the innocent you are of the devil and you are antichrist So, I mean, it's a pretty good, uh, glimpse at his worldview. I guess I'm now I'm confused Do you think he's actually read hobbs's leviathan? No, there's no way, right? No, I don't think so I think he's seen it referenced on like patriot blogs or something. Okay. Okay. I think most of his information comes through those sources If I had to guess, I mean based on the level of

Uh information that traces back to these groups like the jews for the preservation of firearms ownership or gun owners for america Yeah, there's so much of stuff that like he's clearly getting second third hand from them. Right, right And then like uh pretending that he's read tragedy and hope when he's really just read uh, uh, scousin Yeah, thank you capitalist. Yeah, you know, they're like he he gives himself credit for reading the original thing as opposed to Or even john p. Holdren's eco science. Yeah, he claims he's read that there is no chance. He's read that no text book Yeah, it's a text book. Yeah, he's read the little excerpts that are posted on uh, patriot blogs about how There, you know, that's a weapon attack the fluoride and the water and blah blah blah Right, right. He's

No, he's never read leviathan. Yeah positive It's just fun for me whenever all of a sudden he uses something like that that and he uses it correctly where you're like Somebody else had to have read that for you knows that it's another word for the devil Or it's well, I mean used as a term for the devil and he's just throwing it in right right He does say, uh It's not really the devil, but I like it when people call the devil old scratch Old scratch. That's the one I like. Oh bob scratch gold farb. I love uh, the other one that alex uses The skinny one

At one point the skinny one. Yeah, he calls the devil the skinny one. Huh, which is fun So, um because of this cypress, uh, uh, financial situation right everything that involves money and banks is suspicious Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah around this time Also, there was a chase bank glitch that happened with their internal systems that made some users Accounts show a zero balance. It was resolved fairly quickly. Uh, they have been pretty consistent In their statements that it wasn't a hack or anything like that. It was a malfunctioning of Internal algorithms or or whatever which makes enough sense for me. Yeah I I I don't see any evidence that it was a hack or anything nefarious or a test run of clearing out people's bank accounts

Um, but alex sees something up here There was a local news story where they interviewed somebody about this, uh chase bank glitch Uh, and a caller calls in to talk about how that was suspicious. Oh, no, and I think low key This is very important Ken in new jersey. What's your take on this? Definitely a test the fact that they did that thing with chase and if you notice the guy in the clip said He had a face that the government would step in in case it was something serious You know, it's funny. You said that that guy looks exactly

Like an actor and the way he does it and everything he does When I played that clip just now I was looking at it thinking the same thing or or or The point was is that I've seen that guy somewhere That guy is an actor I've seen on tv and movies And I didn't want to say anything because I wanted to try to go find it with you because they've got googles got Yeah, you know recognitions Go find searches that weren't pretty good on faces And I was going to tell my guys quietly and actually break it once it happened

I believe that guy's an actor. In fact, I believe that guy Or someone looks just like him is a cast sunsteen cognitive infiltrator that actually attacks me online that I've seen Just um, I'm sorry. Just amazing what you just hit me with. I agree with you. Go ahead So alex has decided that this guy who said that I believe the government will intervene. I mean, they have to the fdic Yeah, yeah, no, it's it's literally. Yeah So this guy who's saying this in this local news interview alex has decided as an actor This is a massive massive important jump Yeah, because it opens up the door to be like, well

If they're using actors to shape the public opinion on this How far are we away from right where we're ending up at right? His his this was a Spectacular example of yes ending turning into free association turning into fucking I have just figured out the universe. Like that is that is such a Coked up like yay. Yeah. No, no, no. I thought it was really weird too. Holy shit. You know what else is weird People have been making fun of me. Holy shit. You know what? They're all actors. I've seen that guy on tv before This is cast sunsteen. What are you talking about?

No, you haven't you made up this whole story about directing your staff to know you didn't no I I highly doubt it. You were gonna look into it. No, you weren't. No, I think it I think it's an interesting thought that he arrived on because of this caller's suspicion and now he's He's adding a lot of uh little bushes to increase the background of this picture And you know what they're like, it's um, it's it's really interesting to me And and that's why I think it's important to point out that the cypress situation is happening Though I don't feel it's worthwhile to deconstruct How his financial lives are always the same and it's all just panic and you should buy gold

We've got 300 episodes. I think it's important because it does live in the background of what's making him suspicious about this chase situation And those suspicions about this chase glitch make him suspicious of the news report about it And I don't know if that's entirely what's motivating him to say that this guy in the News story about the chase glitch is an actor But it's a piece of it Right and it could definitely be part of the the feedback loop if he's watching all of the or if he's not necessarily watching But all of these patriot bullshit is coming about

Sandy hook being staged and fake Staged and fake is in his mind all the time now and it's constantly so if he gets something like this This is a perfect opportunity for his brain to go like It's it's fake. Let's jump on it first Exactly the same thing with the way he was trying to cover shootings. Yes, absolutely You know when he was trying to be like the media's covering up We're gonna show it to you and he's trying to get ahead of the game a little bit and find his own Um, this is an actor thing to break because then he has a stake in the marketplace

That's kind of unrelated but still very lucrative right he can piggyback certain places Maybe get some seo going. I think it's very interesting Yeah, so alex defends his assertion that this guy in the news report was probably an actor I think probably in the lamest way possible You know, it's like that uh cab driver show. What's the cab driver show where he goes out and ask him questions cash cab And and I don't watch a lot of tv but I was on vacation a few weeks ago And and so I was looking for something the kids could watch and I said, okay, this looks good And I immediately could tell it was actors

I immediately could tell it was actors and I went sure enough Everybody else could tell that and they have actors show up to an open screening that they don't tell them what it's going to be And so it is real questions It is real questions Uh, so it is a real game The pool is from actors to make sure they can only you know shoot once and get well spoken people But they don't tell you about on the show So again, I could instantly look at that and I said watch this kids. I got on my iPad

Pulled it up and said yep actors It was admitted that there'd been controversy. It was actors and it's the same thing. I may be wrong My first gut reaction was that's an actor But then there's the extreme of that where everybody says I'm an actor and I'm bill x which isn't true Don't look into it. It's not true. I'm not I'm not bill x. I'm not Sean Connery either But Yeah, um the rights getting too good at comedy. They're fantastic about it since 2013 comedy geniuses too good So, uh, the cash cab is an example of why this tv news interview was an actor

Was that bill bailey? Yeah, ben bailey. Ben bailey. That's it. I've done a show with him. Yeah Back in uh, when I was doing comedy, I think in Missouri back before I moved to Chicago. I did uh, did a show with ben bailey I don't I didn't I didn't spend much time with him But he was nice and I think he had a bit about birds that I thought was bad Yeah, I don't know. It seemed like a fine guy. He's a great cash cab host. Oh, I loved that. Yeah, really good Uh, so yes a number of people who are on the cash cab as contestants are also Comedians or aspiring actors. Yeah, that is normal that you don't want to see who calls into your morning radio shows I swear to you. No, no, it's 100 real people dad

Right. I I think that it's part of the show business aspect of this And I honestly think that if you're running a show like cash cab doing it any other way is impossible The idea of having a completely unknown variable get into your very Controlled space where you're running a game show. Yeah, it's uh, it's impossible You have an asshole is just like baba booey baba booey baba booey the entire fucking time Waste so much money on shooting like it would be a disaster Then there's also financial issues of people needing to fill out tax forms

And uh, if you just pick people up off the street, like you can't have them fill out the paperwork after words What if they just run away? You can't pay them just in cash. Yeah, like I know it's called cash cab, but that's not Also, I don't want to get into if if you think reality tv is 100 percent real then let's get the fuck out of here But when alex is trying to use like a product a produced tv show like it's it's That's something that if he's using that as an example of Like every interview in a local news could be fake. Yeah, like it's uh, it's a it's a I don't want to use the word slippery slope. It's just stupid. It is dumb It's a dangerous way to allow your brain to start thinking about these things because it opens up the

Uh Just the I don't know diminished credulity that's required to think that everything's fake Well, I mean, it's and even then even within your bullshit of bullshit array That's all it's a silly pointless idea because now you're getting people who need to react instantly You got to pull out a casting call or you have actors fucking on On retainer. I guess just get somebody in the Get somebody in the production crew to walk in front be like hey, it was uh Yeah, I'm fine with it that then you're done

So I thought that this was tough or are like big Because it is a departure in his his narratives for sure um, and then he starts talking about it a little bit more this chase interview and he uh extends his theory about this interview subject being an actor To territory that I have not heard before This is very very very very suspicious Hey, we'd call the guy get and get him on I know with the batman deal a bunch of the people were actors. See the media is like, why are there theories that sandy hook is actors?

Well, because don salazar himself found instances of movie actors being victims And then talking about how they survived who just so happened to be in the aurora shooting supposedly And it was at least two moderate tv slash movie actors Both of them black by the way Uh, I don't think it was lee majors. Um, so I've never up to this point heard alex say that there were crisis actors used in the aurora shooting He's said that james holmes was a mind control killer and all that shit We've gone over in detail already, but I have not heard him make this accusation that some of the victims of the shooting were actors

This is a huge departure in his rhetoric I'm trying to trace down the particular people he's talking about, but I can't really find any good resources About what's going on here? And even if I could I feel like naming the people he's accusing of being actors does more harm than good at this point Even if it's in service of deconstructing his lies It was weird whenever they gave a that george cloney interview after the the shooting. It was weird. That was strange Well, I mean you're joking, but like there is a possibility that someone who was in the theater was also an actor Oh for sure just by Statistically, there's probably at least one actor in that movie theater. Yeah, you know, and if that's what he's talking about and that's weak

But I think if I had to guess based on the distinguishing characteristics alex provides I think I kind of know who he's talking about There's one african-american guy who posted a video on youtube describing his experience being in the theater when the shooting happened And this guy was immediately attacked by conspiracy theorists as being an actor Good work guys. I assume that this is one of the people that alex is talking about since he fits alex's description perfectly There's no evidence whatsoever outside of completely unfounded accusations on conspiracy message boards that he was an actor though The second person I suspect is a hispanic man who was interviewed on good morning america after the shooting He'd survived the shooting and described his experiences

But was gesticulating a lot while being interviewed which led conspiracy sleuths online to suggest he was an actor I really don't think that people understand how adrenaline can really fuck with you in high pressure situations Like if anybody thinks that talking with your hands a lot is a strange behavior for someone who's being interviewed on national television for the first time I really think that they've never tried public speaking I would predict that if they had to get up in front of a room of like a hundred people and say something substantial or Possibly emotionally resonant. They would find their delivery might not be totally natural or casual either That second guy doesn't as closely fit alex's description, but he's another person who survived the aurora shooting who was accused of being an actor I've gone through a bit of this stuff digging around and I found literally nothing that I find to be compelling evidence

Nothing rises above the level of insinuation and yet here we have alex jones reporting on his show that there were crisis actors at the aurora shooting I think that this highlights an under recognized aspect of alex's propaganda. He needs to use crutches He just can't say that the victims of sandy hook were actors because as we've heard him say himself That would be an insanely disrespectful thing to say about grieving parents He knows that the accusations aren't based in reality and to pedal in that level of bullshit demonstrates an inhuman level of cruelty In order to justify that leap he needs there to be another event where it's established that crisis actors were used in a shooting And thus it's sensible to assume that they might have in sandy hook as well We saw him do this from the beginning with sandy hook

But surrounding the question of whether or not it was a false flag He justified arguing the globe that the globalists probably did sandy hook by saying that they definitely did aurora We saw him constantly used that as his justification. It's like well, they did aurora. We gotta ask the question in this case He did that one, uh, they did that one so we're justified to assume that it's likely they did this one too He established and normalized that rhetoric and now it's perfectly acceptable for him to apply that same leap to crisis actors But I think the thing that's interesting is that he hasn't established in the past that actors were used in aurora That's new He's trying to rewrite the narrative about aurora to include that element in order to justify saying

That there were actors in the sandy hook shooting, which I feel he's very close to doing. Yeah This is this is important like these are trends that are happening, right? And this is not Like because we haven't listened to all of these episodes in the in the proper context Um, would you say because to me this sounds like outside influence Changing. Yeah, and that's the problem like that's what it sounds like to me It sounds to me like he's buying his own conspiracy bullshit from elsewhere. You know what I'm saying. Yeah He's not going with internal writing. It's it's like he went down a youtube rabbit hole

A couple of days ago and now he's he's kind of co-opting that Yeah, it's an essential limitation of how we can study alex right in that We can see the stuff on his show and we can see okay There's a change happening here But it doesn't necessarily allow us unless he says on his show what he's doing off hours. Yeah We can't really know what uh is caused This possibly behind the scenes right who he might be talking to And I think that that's a limitation that it is appropriate for us to own up to

That said he gets drunk and watches youtube a lot. So it's very possible That said in the present day alex when he's talking about the the crisis actor stuff is relates to sandy hook He will say that people like james tracy and wolfgang how big had told him a bunch of stuff that he deemed credible james tracy was on the show once and paul joseph watson talked to him alex has not talked to him on the show Yeah, wolfgang how big has not shown up at all steve pacenek even hasn't shown up on alex's show at all There don't appear to be any influences Outside of alex's own mind. Yeah on his show

That are leading him down this road It seems entirely organic If you are listening to his show right right right But if he's referencing those guys as being people who gave him some bad information It's entirely possible. We're considering them giving it to him firsthand as opposed to him just watching something they were on 100 that would still technically be them giving him some bad information I suppose well it could be him taking it from watching their shit That is possible. Yeah, the other possibility is

That there are exchanges going on through email Sure And that's one of the things that I think is really important about the sandy hook lawsuits that are happening Is some of that can come to light through discovery. Yeah that the uh, the the parents and the people suing alex Right have requested I think that a lot of that information is best served being investigated in that Context yeah, and when that information is available. I am going to Uh chomp it all up right. I'm going to devour it

It almost seems like it it winds up being something so simple as them just doing a quick fine search of of just like Hey, how do you want to lie about sandy hook and it pops up in 20 emails? Like it seems very It's very possible. It seems uh very Possible plausible. I have nothing to back it up concretely, but it seems It it's it doesn't seem that crazy to assume that something is going on behind the scenes At this point because this is a massive massive change, right? I don't know if like the day of the Aurora shooting alex said there were actors, but I've listened to months of his show and it is not something he has ever

Applied in that conspiracy. There's been the other stuff the DARPA Right all the other the mind control san antonio air force doctor. Sure. Sure. Sure the notebook Uh and diane fenton ryan reynolds No, there's been tons of conspiracies and that hasn't been one of them So when you have that you have the the chase Uh interview is now an actor You're running into a good bit of That becoming a piece of

Yeah rhetoric that's being pushed. It feels like an intentional push here on this march 19th episode I don't know what to make of it, but I guess we'll see. I mean it really at the same time it could just be Like the dumb part of alex is it could be he was watching a movie A week ago where there were crisis actors in it. What movie is that just I don't fucking know Pick a pick a false flag movie. Okay, he could have been watching goddamn red dawn But he goes through that and then it just gets fixated in his brain and it turns into a phase of everything is actors That could be but I don't think so. Yeah, I don't think so. It feels much more intentional Um, I don't know how much you know, it's a planned editorial decision as much as the day is like well

I'm moving in this direction. Yeah, and I I don't know. I don't know. We'll see how it develops So on this 19th episode alex has an interview with someone who we've never heard from before It's a guy named cody wilson And uh, he's a guy who alex is really excited about because he's on the forefront of 3d printing Particularly in the area of printing guns. Okay. Well, there was there's the bad one. Yeah He's a guy who I should tell you is an anarchist and believes that the best way to deteriorate the power of the state Is to make it so everybody can have guns

He even acknowledges how incredibly fucked up this would be because you'd have completely undetectable guns. Yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah Not good. He doesn't seem to care too much about that. It seems like he's into chaos Is he the guy who left the 3d blueprint online for anybody to download? He's that guy. Yes, he is. Okay, cool He's a cool dude. Yeah, great. Um, he is also Involved in some other stuff that we'll get into but here is alex and him discussing how they kind of want guns to be ubiquitous Sure, and that will be the solution to all the world's problems. They don't think so They can't stop it. Isn't the secret to this is to make it totally ubiquitous and get so many steps ahead of them

That they never catch back up The secret is to get it into the internet in such a way that you can find it anywhere and it can never be stopped And that's that's what's happened, especially with the gun parts And so we know as soon as we have a printable firearm and look for that in about a month Right, it will be on the internet forever And this is why this is the internet is an anarchy and it's the most successful global anarchy in history This is why we think these concepts are important. No one can take those things from you. They're online forever Well, very well said i'm and i'm just extremely excited about everything that you guys are up to and what you're doing

Should you be? I don't know. I don't know if alex should be thrilled with anarchy Yeah, I really think that he's he's saying to a super villain like hey I'm really loving everything you're doing so far. Yeah, he just falls in love with this dude on this episode This is kody wilson. He's super villain the proprietor of defense distributed Wilson has been working with 3d printing and he's been saying that he's been able to uh print a functional gun Which he was doing specifically to demonstrate that gun laws are pointless As soon as there are undetectable guns pretty much uh everywhere There'll be no point in the state trying to control their flow and thus alex's fantasy nightmare of everyone walking around armed to the

Teeth could come into reality. This is the fantasy that they're putting forth, of course So like we mentioned, uh, kody is explicitly an anarchist He says as much in the interview and he's against the state completely which alex should not be on board with Without the state some of the things he holds most dear Everything he loves about the quote-unquote west completely disappear But kody's super into guns and maybe the solution to gun regulation. So alex just skips over that part, right? He loves him It's probably worth mentioning that in 2017 kody wilson wilson would go on to launch the patreon alternative Hatre on which was specifically designed to be a place where white supremacists who'd been kicked off patreon could raise money

Because of the uh his platform richard spencer was able to pull in a monthly income And andrew anglin of the daily stormer was able to raise his income by about $8,000 a month A mad that podcaster and audio means medium because the the little look the little head turn with the eyebrow raised Spectacular like disarming. Yeah I found their rankings of top earners from their early time in existence and I guess who's coming in at number four Why it's the noted fascist and white supremacist organization identity europa Number nine is the guy who hosted the show fasc the nation Which is about what you would probably guess that it is this is the worst david letterman top 10 in history

Number 13 is christopher cantwell the crying nazi from the unite the right rally Number 14 is dawn black the founder of stormfront Looking through the list. I really don't know if you can find anyone who isn't a racist fascist propagandist Yeah, and a lot of them are people who've been very closely tied to white supremacist violence in the past few years And make no mistake about this Initially, hatrion was a service that creators could only set up accounts for by invitation Cody wilson specifically chose these people. Yeah Hatrion sold itself as the censorship free version of patreon

But you can easily see what that means in practice in concept You're imagining that it'll be a place where the free exchange of ideas can take place and everybody could be themselves without the pressure Of having to walk on eggshells to avoid the wrath of sjw's now It's just a lot of the n-word isn't it yep in reality You just end up with a place where white supremacists can fund their operations and cody wilson gets to take his cut off the top Naturally because this is just Literally a conduit for people to fund hate speech visa terminated their involvement with the site as a payment processor And uh, there weren't many other options left for them to try because other places like stripe and paypal had already kicked all these other places off

So the site basically just fell apart at that point Yeah, it was a it's not a bad grift if you're wilson or if you're just creating You know you see all these right-wing hate guys It kicked off patreon and you're like well patreon has a good model of taking a little off the top It's not that hard for me to code a website. So of course. I'll make one It's a good grift if you are willing to just make money off funding. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No monsters Yeah, yeah, yeah, clearly he doesn't have a conscious of any of any sort or kind So, you know good on him for being a psychopath grifter

Also in december 2018 cody wilson was indicted by the state of texas for quote sexual assault of a child In decency with a child by contact and in decency with a child by exposure He had met a 16 year old girl on a sugar daddy website and now they're 500 dollars to have sex with her Which is very illegal. That's the most illegal. Yeah when he found out the police were looking into him He allegedly fled to taiwan, but was ultimately returned back to the united states His defense argued that the child had lied about her age But an austin police commander said quote detectives have interviewed and spoken with this victim and in their opinion If someone mistakes her age, it would be because they think she's younger not older than the 16 year old that she is

Oh That's the grossest Even if she had misled cody about her age Texas law requires the adult to confirm that someone is above the age of consent and puts no legal burden on a child victim Which I think is probably the best way for the system to operate Yeah, that's as the alternative would be fucking nuts. Yeah, that would be a really good way to go So cody ended up pleading down his sentence But uh was still sentenced to seven years probation and had to register as a sex offender

He's not allowed to be alone with minors and in a possible poetic irony. He's not allowed to own firearms anymore. That's fantastic So these are the sorts of people uh that alex has got uh hanging around So in this next clip, this is just kind of knowing what we now know about cody wilson and alex jones and what they would Look like in 2019 that they're great. Uh, this clip takes on a slightly different tone I think I've seen some of the articles where they say you're one of the most dangerous people out there alive Yeah, one of the most polarizing figures in technology But this is from people who of course i'm dangerous to their worldview, right to the oh no no no Hey, welcome to the club southern barbie law center says i'm incredibly dangerous. I mean, you know, they say i'm a terrorist leader

That's a distinction. I'm a terrorist. I mean i'm You should be honored. I guess I terrorize tyrants. Well, exactly. Who do you terrorize? Who is terrorized dangerous to what dangerous to whom? And I think we said this before last time we were together fine Of course, i'm dangerous to that that old way of thinking So this uh like them relishing in this idea that people think that they're fucked up dangerous people Yeah, it's one of those things like you look back at this six years in the past And you have to ask the question. I would love to like show them this and be like Maybe everyone was right. Yeah

Yeah Absolutely, uh, so and just said just those just those dudes getting together in the corner like Jerking each other off for being so dating like that's because you're not you're living this fantasy where like kody wilson is living this weird Super villain fantasy like he's living like if I make guns available for everyone Then all power is meaningless doing that whole thing and alex is Up his own butt with being so powerful In the in the speech realm or whatever it is So to hear these two just go back and forth being like you're great. No, you're great because we're both so scary and powerful

It's so fucking annoying. I'm a fucking pathetic coward. I'm the threat to the system Really translates more to I am a threat to people. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah Absolutely because I was not treated as one when I was nine or whatever the fuck psychology. It is who knows So, uh, kody also is a big booster of bitcoin and he's specifically trying to promote bitcoin base I assume he got very very very rich I mean, I bet he was pretty rich to begin with. Yeah, he had a lot of people interested in the Like because a month or so after this, I think it's like two months after this He does make a huge splash by having a 3d printed gun. Right. Right. Right. I recall in this like almost immediate future after this interview

Yeah, and so like there were a bunch of people funding him with uh with capital Um, and I bet he did also make a lot of money. Yeah. Oh, yeah, but uh in this, uh But in this clip, uh, he's trying to promote bitcoin base A coin base. I don't know what the exact name if it's bitcoin base or coin base. Who cares? Whatever it is. He's trying to promote it. Alex is always very suspicious about crypto currencies course and it's interesting I can't see it It's interesting the way he's suspicious about it in this uh in this conversation It's not shiny and uh, they can link it up to your bank accounts and everything

So it's just one of the easiest ways to buy and sell bitcoin and most one of the most accessible Um, is peter feel involved anywhere in this? Well, I don't know if uh, I don't know if he is publicly or not I can't speak to that but I know that uh People that think like him people with that founders fund mentality and the idea that like libertarian corporations are the future Are looking at uh companies like coin base and that they want to fund them Yeah, but I mean, it's just like ron rand paul just won the cpac deal and now the neocons loving I think they're trying to adopt it to take it over. Well, you mean bitcoin itself. Well, I mean, uh, peter feel. Oh, well, yes So it's funny to hear alex so worried about peter teal back in uh, 2013

He's suspicious about bitcoin as a free and open marketplace And the only real specific he gives in this interview is that he believes peter teal is involved and good for him Peter teal's involvement in something is a bit of a red flag In october 2016 the new york times reported that teal donated 1.25 million dollars to trump's presidential campaign And not surprisingly was an important advisor, uh for trump during the transition after the election By that point in continuing to the present alex has been a strong teal advocate Which is also not surprising has well did teal fuck over gawker at this point I don't think it happened in 2013. I don't think it happened that back then

I think it that was later because the only thing I recall the whole kogan lawsuit Yeah, yeah, well the only thing I can remember about teal at this point was the first funder of facebook exactly ebay Right and notorious for sending cease and desist to any journalistic outlet that said his name Uh-huh, so that would be the only reason I could think of for alex like those trifecta of being a facebook Evil globalist and alex isn't on that tip at this point though. I don't think I'm not sure I'm not sure what he hates about peter teal. Well palantir is still bullshit. Yeah, that's that's a round back then, right? I don't know exactly alex's beef, but teal's evil all the way. Who gives a shit, right? Yeah um, fuck them so we jump to the 20th and

We start with something really interesting Because in 2015 when we were looking at that period of time where alex makes peace with trump and decides to support his candidacy One of the things that was in the background that we discovered was that alex loved russia, right and there Was perhaps some Suspicion or some feeling that uh When we initially started looking at it that these two things were related in some way And as we learned more it appeared. No, they were not related alex just loved putin and russia He likes a he likes a dictator with a swing and dick right in dictating. Yeah seemed almost entirely

Disconnected from his path. Yeah of supporting trump. Yeah, it just existed already before He started as opposed to trump. No, even when we were in 2009 we were finding him loving russia and shit having some at least absolutely some indications of a Russo positive worldview taking russia's line on Certain geopolitical issues that there might be some question about whose angle on it is correct Right. Now one of the things that I find very interesting is that in 2015 one of the features of alex's

positive russia angle was that putin kicked out the oligarchs and that putin Yeah, that one's fun putin is trying to create this wonderful christian free market. Yeah, whatever That's fine. And it was a complete and total coincidence that that journalist died on the same was murdered on the same day His putin's birthday leave that aside leave that aside for a second. Yeah alex says that putin kicked out the oligarchs in 2015 and that's one of the big pieces of why he loves putin Uh and supports him Here's what he says in 2013 See they never really got privatization in russia

They took the duma controlled communist party system controlled by a few hundred guys and they all left the duma And put their puppets in like putin and went Uh, you know in their in their total drugged out of his mind, uh Yeltsin who couldn't even talk they put him up there Well, they all then went and took over the nickel the iron the steel production the oil the natural gas It's all just big mafia combines and it's it's uh, truly truly truly disgusting So he understands that they didn't kick out the oligarchs In 2013 no not in 2013

So I mean it's entirely possible between 2013 and 2015 putin kicked out all the oligarchs I don't I don't that's not even alex's angle in 2015 That's All right alex a couple weeks ago putin kicked out all the oligarchs. So I like him now. All right alex It's interesting. I wonder what I wonder what change I I don't mean that facetiously glibly I do wonder what changed between 2013 and 2015. No, I absolutely agree with you I wonder if it has anything to do with syria I do I do wonder that

Was he on rt in 24 in between 2013 and i don't believe so that was uh his rt days are behind him by 2013 Except for I guess going on max keiser's show, but he always treats that as sort of external to rt Right, right, right. I'm not sure. We'll see. I mean it's something to track because that's fucking incongruous. Yeah as hell Yeah, that's strange. So I kept this clip in just for our our our dear friend sonia from sweden I think she will get well soon, sonia. Uh, I hope that she will enjoy this uh, uh dom clip And stockholm syndrome got that name decades ago From occasion stockholm Europe

But alex doesn't know where stockholm is A little stockholm europe Oh, you know, Cincinnati north america Uh Good stuff alex. Oh, man. Oh, we love it. So in this next clip, you know, uh, saupallo western hemisphere Sure, that's how you say those sorts of things. Um, in this next clip alex mocks, uh, a woman, uh, who support supported obama and uh, there's sort of a gross element to this And I guess I'm only keeping it in I I don't know why I'm keeping this in necessarily except to just

point out these shifts in alex Having the stockholm syndrome loving your abusers Giving into it doing what it says is going to destroy you And if you buy into this false reality, they're spewing We're going to have the total implosion of our society and an authoritarian nightmare That is going to look pale insignificant

And That is just an example Of the type of people that are out there Wow alex has many many times said that he would die for trump. Uh, it's It's ridiculous. No, he's absolutely right on uh, but he but like directed towards him He's so smart about how people will get turned into an authoritarian empire But he's like almost gleefully joining in with an authoritarian empire. Yep

I would say that I would be critical of anybody who says that they would die for their chosen political leader Yeah, uh, I I would be critical of alex and that woman's sentiment The difference between me and alex is alex is not critical of his own sentiment of I would die for trump Yeah, uh, that is a problem. Well, and I'm pretty sure it makes you think that maybe what you're criticizing is something else Yeah, uh, I think it's very clear that she's being uh facetious Well, probably yeah, or um Everybody's having it. Yeah, everybody's having a good time talking to her and alex is having a good time talking to alex right now alex is probably exaggerating too, but the context is very different. Yeah

Um, so anyway, we're back to the chase glitch Now alex is covering that here on the 20th. Um, and uh, he smells conspiracy Chase jp morgan customers Uh, yesterday evening for two and a half hours or or they before yesterday Showed zero People couldn't buy stuff. They couldn't do things and I think that something's suspicious. They're like to do flash trading There's tens of billions of dollars of deposits even more than that Imagine two and a half hours that money being able to be used from the things moved into other things

I think it's very suspicious. I've talked to it people and they have all those systems backed up He would have everybody's card go to zero But I mean this is this is based on nothing except uh vague conversations Probably never had with it people. I talked to an ip it person one time and they said that that would probably never happen So alex so that means it didn't and it couldn't alex is creating this conspiracy surrounding this chase glitch And it's in service of reinforcing. I guess What probably is more primary is the or at least what will probably become more primary is the idea that this guy in the TV interview was an actor who was there to

Dissuade people from thinking it was any kind of nefarious thing. Yeah That's a mess that is that is an interesting Incredibly impossible to hide ever a conspiracy though that idea that some bank like chase would In a second in a flash second take all this money from all these accounts Invest it instantly see the stock rise by one penny and then Take it all out after selling all those shares And putting all of that money back into your account

So they would make money and you wouldn't even notice because it all happens in a microsecond That's a fun conspiracy theory that could be Instantly and easily found out and would be the most illegal possible thing that could ever fucking happen does alex not understand That's how banks work already Yeah, but I think he thinks it's it's malicious. This is so stupid So alex on this episode has an interview with rosa corey If you don't recall she is the lady who is super into agenda 21 and goes and disrupts local meetings That people are having and accuses any kind of

Environmentalism any kind of civic planning right building parks right as being part of strong cities initiative and agenda 21 Also known for being great at parties Their interview is just exactly the same as the last time we talked about her It's not worth getting into again except for this that she says that alex doesn't bat an eyelash at And australia is about five years ahead of us. They're doing that. They're in earnest. Oh, australia is is terrible I mean, obviously people are really dealing with it all across the world This is not just a united states thing. I was interviewed on red ice radio Which is based in northern europe and you know, they they were under the impression that this is some kind of a united states program

No, it is not alex doesn't seem to be like Oh, you're on red ice cool I mean, that's uh, that's the sort of thing that should be like. Oh Why were you on that? Why would you go on that show? They are explicitly white supremacists White nationalist show. Why would you just throw that out as if it's like? Oh, I was on good morning america Because we're in a very safe space Speak freely rosa. Yep. Uh, that's uh, that's pretty telling how uh, Flippantly, you can just be like, oh, yeah, I was also on this

Fucking show that is largely about white identity Um, and it's cool. I interviewed them and I hit them about how gender 21 is a global problem. Yep. Great. Yeah great rosa Yeah So up to this point in just a span of a few days We've seen alex incorporate ideas of this Uh tv interview being an actor. We've seen him Say that some of these survivors and victims of the aurora shooting were actors And like two is a coincidence three is a pattern

Here is the third That's snatch and grab we saw him practicing on real people Up at the g20 when rob do got arrested the famous footage of guys in military uniforms with no patches Jumping out of police sedans unmarked and just just snatching innocent press and dragging them in and then we later learned We said, oh, that's u.s. National Guard because they have and we got a call From g20 global security with that number from the security forum because our articles got picked up everywhere and said Uh, that is uh national security authorized private security And we just want you to know that we have been instructed to tell you that was not the national guard

And then they hung up on rob Jacobson. They called his number. I call him back and they go you've been given your answer And that is it and hung up and it was the field security number So I called other numbers and they wouldn't talk to us after that. They just called up to say that is our private security And it turned out those weren't real people. They were resting thousands of real people for no reason They were randomly snatching and grabbing and throwing people into sedans and unmarked vans as a psi op to see What the media would do they would go to the media area The authorized media throng and grab someone and I called it. I said that guy is laughing As after he's thrown the back of the police car and doesn't look concerned that

reporter So this uh is from the 22nd. I apologize. I didn't clarify Alex took the 21st off and mike adams hosted and now he's back on the 22nd And he's coming in with this uh narrative about g20 arrests being psi ops Yeah I don't believe alex's story about how he got this information for a couple reasons Uh, mainly that he always lies right. He's alex second. That is just a Unbelievable chain of events calling these people and then you got your answer and then

Alex doesn't ever do investigative work. So the idea that he would track down other phone numbers is laughable But like I said, I'm I'm trying to be pretty clear about this I'm seeing a trend developing of alex incorporating crisis actors into his narratives in ways that he has not up till this point I've been listening to every single minute of his show from the day of the sandy hook shooting And I can say with no hesitation that this is not normal We've already seen alex add actors to the conspiracy about the aurora shooting and now people arrested at the 2009 g20 meeting in pittsburgh were actors Engaged in a psi op run by the state

Presumably at the behest of globalists so they could gauge how the media would respond to the thing Let's leave aside for a moment. How stupid this is if you believe as alex does that the globalists already control the media Uh, what's more important is how alex is missing out on a real instance of state oppression in service of using it to create a different conspiracy On a very basic level it's an alex's best interest to delegitimize the g20 protests He wants to yell about the g20 But the people who are actually protesting them are largely anti-capitalists The people who are willing to put their bodies on the line are not people who think three people voted in the federal reserve into existence There are people who want to dismantle the power of capital

And that's a threat to the power structure, but it's also a threat to alex So of course you would have propaganda narratives in order to delegitimize instances of the police arresting these people That said even though it makes sense for him to undercut the anti-capitalist protests I've never heard him argue that the people arrested at the 2009 g20 meeting were actors Um, and the problem is that they absolutely were not The specific arrest alex is talking about uh, was the subject of a video that went 2009 viral It was a video of a car pulling up on protesters men in camo coming out and grabbing a guy and tossing them into their car Immediately the internet went wild with theories that the arrest was fake because the camo outfits the men were wearing weren't right

They were like a different form of camo than uh, the national guard was wearing No, it wasn't improv everywhere. Sure. Yeah, or the they had the wrong shoes on was another Complaint that was toss it in there I don't believe that alex reached out to anyone because like I said, he never reaches out to anyone for comment That's just not part of the info wars journalism process Why would you I can count on one hand the number of times? I believe they may have sent someone an email to check on a story What alex is probably referring to is the boilerplate response that the g20 joint information center sent to journalists inquiring about the arrest

Which I found published verbatim on both media ight and raw story Quote the individuals involved in the 9 24 o 9 arrest which has appeared online are law enforcement officers from a multi agency tactical response team It's not unusual for tactical team members to wear camouflage and fatigues the type of fatigue Fatigues the officers wear designates their unit affiliation This is pretty close to what alex is saying the army told him So i'm going to assume he probably just read this response and decided to pretend he Reached out to them himself knowing that that's the response he would get if he did reach out so it's a safe

Right, right, right, but he also says they reach out to him making him so much more powerful. Sure These weren't military members despite their camo. They were alleged They and they alleged that they had observed the individual. They arrested vandalizing a business And decided to intervene the way they did due to the quote hostile nature of the crowd I think that's all kind of bullshit and the arrest absolutely I would describe as overkill in the methods that they're using but alex lying about it doesn't help the actual problem get solved No, it's much the same way him refusing to file internal complaints when he is the victim of Uh police overreach doesn't help the problem get solved right because he wants poli he wants

terroristic policing Wow, he wants to profit off him Right, you know the larger issue here for our purposes though is that this was a real arrest and alex has zero evidence Uh to support his claim that it was an actor who was arrested as part of asiah That's a completely unfounded belief. He's decided to present his truth and I believe it's part of a growing pattern More and more things are being called fake and alleged to be involving actors on his show This is the third example in a week's worth of alex's program and I don't think it means nothing It's important to note too. Like I mentioned earlier that alex has not had wolf gang how big on his show up to this point

He's had james tracy on but alex didn't even talk to him This like if this is in fact where we jump off into the sandy hook actors narrative alex Can't really make a compelling argument like he tries to that he heard both sides And he can't blame james tracy or wolf gang how big he's doing this himself Right if there's something behind the scenes That convinced him of that and it's wolf gang how big's fault. He hasn't demonstrated that in any way. Yeah I don't know

Man i'm going back and forth now because originally I was thinking that it was some sort of outside Uh influence of some kind, but then you know now to put this in there for No reason really like there's no point in throwing this error other than you giving him a possible credit for Setting the groundwork for being able to call sandy hook a completely staged event right with crisis actors But it also sounds like that called whenever he was just having that that fun like A free associative like all of a sudden. Yeah, these guys are actors too. I'm gonna throw that in there now It's kind of sounding like he's just excited to call everything fake It just likes having people think that he's so smart

He figured out that this is fake and all this shit is fake It does feel that way and on some level a bit of that could possibly be explained by When he had james tracy on uh to talk to paul joseph watson a big part of it Was a recognition that there was 10 million views of this video right that they put out There was a big market space right that was For calling things actors exactly. Yeah. Yeah, and I don't think it's unreasonable to look at it as In the intervening month or so they've seen that that hasn't gone away Yeah, and that this is a pretty lucrative fertile

space for conspiracy to grow in So I I think that it's it's a possibility. I'm not saying it is the case But it is a possibility that what they've seen is that there is market viability and calling these things fake And alex is allowing himself to dip into that pool right that's possible Another possibility is alex is aware that he is working towards saying sandy hook is fake Yeah, and that it was all actors because we do know that that is where he ends up Right and if he knows that that's the conclusion you're getting to it makes sense to build up to that Um that have the have the groundwork laid. Yeah, and the way that he's incorporating it into these other

Things right the way that it's pretty consistently coming up accusations of things involving actors. It doesn't seem Organic to me right it could be explained by your Theory that he got drunk and watched youtube And it's like hey, it's fun to call things actors. I admit that that's a possibility And I feel like that's not a that's not a low possibility either My suspicions are also possibilities. Absolutely. There are a hundred Possible explanations for why this is happening But I'm looking at it and I can't escape the conclusion that it is happening. Yeah, no, absolutely

And that's that's again. I'm gonna go with money every time. It's the Until until proven otherwise. I'm gonna go with some sort of money grab right and again This comes down to the limitation of looking at it the way we do is that I can tell you that there is something going on Right with the available information that I have I can't tell you Exactly how it plays out yet, and I also may never be able to tell you the exact why right? I can give you some possibilities But I don't know outside of alex confessing. Yeah, or

This lawsuit revealing emails that showed machinations behind the scenes I'm not sure that I would ever be able to give you the why right and that's deeply frustrating to me But I can tell you that this does not appear to me From my time studying alex jones to be a coincidence. No, no, it appears to be whether a subconscious or conscious decision to incorporate uh crisis actors into a bunch of stuff. I think uh, it's Yeah, I don't think it's possible for us ever to know because I don't think that there's any way that alex Concrete concretely knows we would need some because it's not like we could do an interview with alex Like 20 years from now when he's not on the air and he's got nothing to lose

We can't trust a thing He says because there's no way that he'll a remember it or be Bother to tell the truth some insightful person who used to work at info wars if freed from their nondisclosure agreement Possibly could explain the dynamics that were going on at the time right It would have to be a third party for sure But that would still only be their perspective on it. Exactly. It would I think it requires Um, those emails. Yeah quite frankly. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What about our emails dan? So, uh, because alex is he's getting pretty extreme. I mean he's already yelled about obama's the devil for an hour. Sure. Um

Troubling if proven right He's building up this idea that This is an existential battle what we what he wants his audience to understand is That if they lose it's all over and if they win then it's great. Yeah, and so this is how he's framing things You understand the magnitude. This is their water loose This now works. We either gain everything or we lose everything. They're going for it all we go for it all The function of rhetoric like that is in order to justify excess on your side

If you present it as an existential battle where if we lose we lose everything and they're going for it all They're they're pulling out all the stops. They're trying to poison you through the water They're using actors to create this completely fictional reality in order to brainwash people. Absolutely If they're going for it all we're going for it all and that is not good Because you're creating a fictional version of what the enemy is doing in order to justify the very real things that you are doing If the enemy is going to commit war crimes, we have no choice But to fight them on their level if they're going to burn our farms and and commit to total war Then we have to burn their farms and their civilians

So um, I mean you're bringing up war crimes and you know, it is somewhat relevant because As we discussed at the beginning of this episode Alex is making predictions about what the globalists are going to do this false flag that they're going to Pull off and he's looking in american city would probably commit as a would be a war crime Yeah, you'd think I would give that one war crime status and that's the prediction. He's making We either realize the attack they lose everything in this or they go hot And what what will precipitate it? Something like a small atomic bomb going off until blame on us now. I'm going to break this down

We get back how to defeat them If you don't want to go under new world order control totally we'll stay with us So it's all very consistent. It's a repetition of they're going to set off a nuke and blame the patriots He's listed the cities that he thinks are the targets chicago primarily I like Whether or not he again, he says there's going to be a false flag all the time So when there is an actual terrorist attack as the boston bombing is It doesn't lend him any more credibility that he said there was something coming

Especially when you look back and see like he's specifically predicting something completely different. Yeah So don't give me any credit when I say there's going to be another school shooting, right? That's not something that you God local news Would give anything for that kind of throw to break Like they have to be like, oh Is there something in your food that is going to hurt you? Find out at six, but still not as bad as alex Do you want to know how to defeat the new world order? Otherwise, they're going to nuke chicago

We'll see in five. Yeah, it is pretty disgraceful. It's bad Um, so alex, uh, like there's been a lot of stuff in this episode that I think is really important Like I think we're seeing this tendency towards actor narratives. Yeah, um, I think alex is Prediction of a nuke in chicago is pretty important because he's going to pretend He predicted predicted the boston bombing when it happens and of course he clearly has not of course And a lot of that's pretty important. What is about to happen is not very important, but I think is pretty amazing um alex has decided that

Coyotes are a very big threat not not people who smuggle people. No the animal Do you know what's fun? Not for one moment Did I think it was anything other than literally coyotes alex believes that there is a scourge of coyote murder happening Not one moment Did I think he would take the extra step for a devil on tundra? Nope Purely coyotes people are being killed by coyotes. Are they being abducted by coyotes and then raised by coyotes He says they're being eaten by coyotes

And he believes that the globalists are trying to train people to be attacked by coyotes by watching horror movies Because in horror movies like in a jason movie, you know The character will run away and then trip and fall and then be like no Right, right, right. If there's a white woman in a horror movie. She's going to trip and fall. That's just the rule Right. So alex believes that this is programming. So when people See a coyote, they'll run away from them trip and fall and then beg the coyote not to kill them That is the greatest Plan the globalists have ever come up with. This is amazing

Astonishingly good alex is brilliant for figuring this plan out I even read about A few times a year people get eaten by coyotes now inside major cities are on the edge of cities coyotes never used to happen Because coyotes need to be scared of humans now. It's almost always a small woman. She gets scared She runs women have been taught for movies to fall down because you always do that when jason's coming after you You run and you fall down They've been then you beg So that's what's been reported people people run and then it's so much fun because they were taught they fall down

And then the coyotes come in and and and they just roll around while the coyotes eat them I mean if you went the coyotes would run in fear. This is Ridiculous. First of all, I don't know if anybody watches a horror movie and thinks that the person who's being killed by jason is having a great time Please don't kill me First things first jordan. All right. See you see after this scene. All right. You're good. You're a good dude Let me make this real clear Coyotes attacking people. That is not a big problem in the united states I really want to believe you dan the journal human wildlife interactions released study in 2017 of the phenomenon of humans being attacked by coyotes

Compiling all available data between the years of 1970 and 2015. I assume it is 100 percent shorter women between 1977 and 2015 there were 367 instances of humans being attacked by coyotes and when you eliminate rabies as a variable because any rabid animal is going to attack Yeah, yeah, yeah, the big takeaways of the studies seem to be the following one coyotes generally attack when they're cornered with the Elimination of wild lands where they can roam free. They're being introduced into environments that are foreign to them and that's causing some disruption They have the behavioral plasticity to live in urban environments, but it causes some confusion Two the vast majority of attacks occurred in california due to natural coyote population distributions

The attacks also seem to follow a pattern where they increased around the times when coyotes would be either pregnant or nursing their pups And thus they'd be in a position of food stress This isn't to say that they were attacking humans to eat them But that over time they've lost their fear of humans. They've also begun to associate humans with food Environments that humans live in are resource rich environments for coyotes Think of like campsites at national parks and when you when you start to think about that It's easy to see how the very basic association could be made between the presence of humans and the availability of food It's theorized that this association has been made by the coyote populations who

Come to exist in more urban areas and that many of the attacks we've seen have been out of food panic They believe that attacking humans will open up food resources Fuck you. I used to live here and you killed everybody So now I'm trying to live here and you're still fighting me. I'll bite you Fine the phenomenon of wild animals becoming habituated to living around humans has been pretty extensively studied and generally when things like rabies aren't in play Once they are habituated and don't see humans as a threat They mostly don't attack people without a reason like being cornered or if there's a drop-off in available food Often as precipitated by decreasing in the population of a species. That's their prey

It's a byproduct of the interconnectedness of nature something that we are a part of as much as alex might want to pretend otherwise Also only two of the 367 coyote interactions studied in this report led to deaths One was back in 1981 and the victim was a three-year-old child Which is incredibly tragic But I can't guarantee that the child did not watch a ton of horror movies And then decide running away from the coyote would be fun The late 70s were really kind of a golden age for for horror movies though. So I don't think it's three-year-old watch them though They can walk. I don't I don't think that they can walk. I don't I don't I think that it's showed them a lot of roger

I think it's dubious to suggest The other instance was in 2009 It was a 19 year old folk singer who was killed by coyotes in Nova Scotia. So that wasn't even in the united states Again, this is a real tragic situation and i'm not minimizing it at all But experts who have discussed that situation theorize that the most likely situation is that she was hiking alone And probably encountered a group of coyotes who were hunting as a pack and that they were likely protecting a deer they'd killed Whatever the specific details her situation doesn't mirror alex's bullshit either and the coyotes didn't eat her People came to her aid and scared off the coyotes called for help and then she died from her injuries at the hospital

Right, right. I know this might seem like a minor weird thing to focus on But I think it's a really good example of how Authoritatively alex speaks about topics. He knows nothing about This is complete bullshit and yet he's delivering this bit of information as if he'd studied the topic in depth It's important to highlight these examples sometimes because they illustrate what a con man he is and show how clearly How little self-reflection he's capable of He just rambles and rants about notions and things he's making up that feel right to him And then he presents them as if they're well researched facts

When you recognize that he does this about coyotes eating people regularly because the globalists have trained them not to fight back It opens the door to recognizing that he does this about everything He's never read a study on coyote attacks. Just like he's never read anything. This is all bullshit Everything is bullshit and coyote Murder eating people is such a good doorway into understanding that man. That's just such a Swing that's just such a swing for the fences all the time now you hear about coyotes eating people in big urban cities in america but listen There's zero risk because he's already fucking crazy that anybody is going to call him out on his coyote bullshit

But if by some Freak happenstance, he's right about the coyote murder situation. He's the most brilliant man in the world He's absolutely not right about it. He's not the most brilliant man in the world Yeah, but man if he was and just so people don't think that i'm just taking a little clip of this and being like He's actually saying that coyotes are killing people Here's some more of it In every case now in canada and the us it's it's happening every few months now you'll read about it's always the same story The woman on her lunch break went to the local park to have a sandwich or make some phone calls two coyotes came out

She she she she cowered crying calling 911 and the coyotes by the time they got there had chewed her throat out I looked through instances of coyote attacks None of the none of the stories i could find mirrored this in any way So she's in the west loop or something right hanging out in a little park eating her eating her lunch when two coyotes Which i like the the ability to switch back and forth between coyotes and i'm fine with that as well I'm happy with that. I do it myself. I do it's quite it's fun. It's a fun different way So she's just eating her lunch in a highly populated area And boy before 911 can get there because there are so many people witnessing her getting eaten by two coyotes

Bystander coyote. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh man. Yeah, that's tough. That's tough And i'm here saying don't call 911 you see coyotes Coming out of the edge of woods get up and go wow and they're gonna see that predator look that you're just looking at them You're not scared. They're gonna run Let's see what you've decided to do is the virtue you think roll over and cry Oh Like in all the movies the guy comes in with a knife and the man of the woman goes no don't kill me Somebody comes in with a knife i'm gonna say

I just literally go I mean, but that's because i'm a maniac ladies and gentlemen That's because i'm a maniac a maniac. No, i'm not i'm red-blooded This is he is dancing on the floor though. This is ludicrous Um, so now he extends it to wolves The wolves are in play. I see i'm red-blooded I'm ready to blot a bunch of torches up and go running through the woods running after mastodons to run them off a cliff and eat them So like big piles of red meat

And that's why i'm free Ah Like the fires of liberty. Ah, we're coming to the castle I Mean they have taken your human I mean these people fall down in front of coyotes and are eaten coyotes have never eaten people Yep Not in recorded history with the native americans or the settlers coyotes didn't eat people only wolves would go after humans

That'd be a human alone if the wolves were starving in deep winter if wolves are starving they will try to eat a man They know we're tough They got to be starving to try to go after a man starving to death What's up? so So he's He's defending wolves killing people Uh

Because he's putting the onus upon you the person getting eaten by the wolf I don't know The situation with wolves is very similar to the situation with coyotes Right right right, but not in his not in his worldview in his worldview coyotes are now roving packs of Fucking warriors coming out to murder helpless innocent women on their lunch break Yeah, whereas wolves will only hurt you if you approach them in the dead of winter while they are starving deep woods He is he is rehabilitating wolves image. I think I guess at the expense of coyotes. Yeah, it's unfair It's unfair to both animals really

I mean wolves have been like the target of real maligned. Oh, absolutely perception like the and coyotes Similarly, there have been kill-offs of them based on Perceptions of their they're like they're just what predators out to get you and they're Talking that kind of stuff. Yeah wolves definitely kill way more livestock. Oh, yeah, absolutely Um, but like there aren't really many I think I could find two examples again of like confirmed people who have been killed by wolves in north america By wolves or coyotes two definitely for coyotes Yes, but then with wolves I could find two

Uh, most most of the resources I could find only had two examples. Yeah dating back even further than 1970 Ah, but not the native americans. I sure Leaving the wolves aside what we have here when you really get down to it Is alex trying to make his audience scared about a completely made up thing? Which is to say this plague of women being eaten by coyotes And then trying to make them scared about how the globalists trained them to be unable to defend themselves from being eaten by these coyotes Really really gonna have to stop you here. Are we talking about coyotes? Yes, ultimately. It's all made up But that's not what this is about

Now that we've gotten to the end of this rant. I think you can see clearly this was never about the fake woman being eaten by coyotes It's about alex yelling at his audience about how big and strong of a boy. He is He's not afraid of coyotes. No and for that I guess I applaud him But this is such a waste of time for his show like he's making stuff up and all it leads to is i'm strong and brave I'm so powerful. I would never fall down in the face of a coyote Great. That's that's proud of you alex. You know what? That's the mark of a true leader. I mean if you've fallen that's the only thing I need to see I would say that it's ironic that at the beginning of this episode alex was accusing the cfr of bragging. Yeah

This is democratic debates. Fuck. No throw a coyote in there whoever stands their ground new president Done good plan. That's how we do it now So we have one last clip here from the 22nd and again It's alex predicting this upcoming false flag terrorist attack that is going to happen He names multiple cities. He talks very specifically And uh pay close attention. None of this has to do anything with boston If america gets its instinct going and goes ooo the government's been taken over and is arming against you They're not going to be able to detonate an atomic weapon in chicago. You know, I just keep saying chicago

Like I said, they'll blow up the world trade center and blame it on bin Laden Two months before it happened. I even named the targets Dallas chicago cleveland denver places like that What about boston silvestine, you know owns the uh one of the biggest buildings down there bought it Was the sears tower at something else? I'd uh He's a nice man He really cares about you. Anyway, it's getting back to what I was saying ladies and gentlemen coyotes are on a rampage

So coyotes are on a ramp Yeah, I mean he's very specifically there if you know how alex talks what he's saying is they're going to nuke the willis tower Yeah, going to nuke sears tower So, uh, his prediction is shit. He named like what six cities there. None of them were boston. None of them are boston Um, I guess he could say cities like that includes boston as much as it's a large city But you don't you don't get any credit for this one alex. This is no good this prediction that you're making as shit Um, I need I needed to get through this large or chunk of time on this episode I'm glad we were able to because I think we're seeing these trends start to develop

um more fully and um Kind of convinced he's gonna say uh sandy hook was actors before boston. I really think he's going to I know every every time Yeah, but we thought in the last episode that it was going to be the boston bottom That makes him do that everything is either accelerated or decelerated his timeline for saying what we all know He's going to say. Yeah, he's fucking teasing us and it's infuriating I guess he's did this in the past because he knew that eventually one Coyotes will become an actual threat. So I assume in the next six months Right be aware that women are going to get eaten by coyotes. Yeah, and to lunch break indoors ladies

He is psychic. He could see the future and he's fucking with us on purpose He knew this podcast was eventually going. He knew it was going to be there. Yeah, it's it's uh, it's likely Um, yeah, I guess the only question that remains really since we know the ultimate end of the road is saying that uh These victims of the shooting were actors The question is is it before the boston bombing or because of it? Yeah, I would bet A substantial amount of money. It's before. Oh, yeah. No whereas just a week ago. I would have said it's because because of the Yeah, yeah, no, he went on a yeah, it's crazy. He had a fun week of saying there were actors everywhere Yeah, all over the place. Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if on our next episode

He started starting to apply it to sandy hook. Totally. I don't know that to be the case Like I don't have some advance information that I'm like, hey, isn't it going to be great when it does happen on the next episode? I look like a psychic. Yeah, I have no idea It could uh be a month after the fucking boston bombing for all I know again It is entirely possible that our predictions will be wrong the moment we change the prediction I'm actually i'm going to stay the course. I'm going to say it's not until the boston bombing There's uh, there is not an observer effect to this It should be pointed out that there is a definitive answer. We just don't know it yet

Not until we measure it all right So it's interesting. I'm excited to see where uh, that goes. I think that this may be a better way to frame these 2013 and the investigation episodes. I have such a tendency to get down into the weeds about learning about every piece of alex's narratives that uh Whereas we are trying to understand the sandy hook stuff Um, it may not be in our best interest to learn every little thing about what alex is up to in this period No, I don't know sometimes you tell me one of those details

And i'm just as excited as a coyote when phyllis is on her lunch break Listen, I would never deprive you of finding out about how you got to give it up to the small pirates But at the same time We don't need to know about alex's troubles itself by southwest. We really don't that's not necessary So hopefully, uh, i'm going to try as best as I can to when we do these Investigations in the future cover larger chunks of time as opposed to just one day from the past We need to make we need to make progress through this. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We've been we've been in 2013 for months There's so many other investigations that I'd like to do. I'm interested in the occupy stuff

We said we were going to get into that. There's just other periods of time that I think are important So, um, we'll be back though on wednesday with a new episode indeed. We will But tell them we have a website. It is knowledge fight.com. You bet it is We're also on twitter at knowledge underscore fight and act go to bed jordan What about facebook? We are on the facebook and if you wanted to listen to our show if you wanted to you could go to itens Uh, you could go to spotify you could also conversely find yourself a small family of coyotes None of them can be pregnant or nursing a murder of coyotes murder of coyotes get together

Have a little pow wow with them. See what's going on. See what they're doing. Do you know what they're going to say to you? There's a fable, uh Among the navajo. Oh, yeah, there's a tale Legend that is told of the coyote who speaks in knowledge fight episodes There's one coyote Lives in the desert of uh, new mexico And if you find this coyote, it speaks, uh, you'll just open its mouth and our podcast plays through it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah It's a nice one. Mm-hmm. Ah, absolutely. Um, but uh, good luck for the other one that says molon lava all the time

That one's weirdo. Yeah Uh, we'll be back, but uh, I am neo. I am leo. I am the jesus lizard andy and chansas. You're on the air. Thanks for holding So, alexa my first name color. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you