Knowledge Fight - #355: April 18, 2013

Episode Date: October 14, 2019

Today, Dan and Jordan continue to look at the absolutely embarrassing coverage of the days after the Boston Marathon bombing on the Alex Jones Show. In this installment, Alex works to solidify his narrative in advance of the FBI's announced press conference to reveal suspect photos on the afternoon of the 18th, and talks to a ton of really dumb callers.

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Hey, everybody, welcome back to knowledge fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes that sit around to novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Indeed we are Dan. Jordan. Dan.

Jordan. Is there a specific jingle you remember from your childhood? One that pops out in your mind right away. O'Reilly auto parts. Oh, really? That kind of, yeah. Is that the jingle for that? Yeah.

O'Reilly auto parts. O, O, O, O'Reilly. That business has my favorite origin story. O'Reilly auto parts. Yeah. It's just a divorce gone bad and she made her own business to spite. Is that right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I think it's the guy who- You know the lore of O'Reilly? There was a, they owned AutoZone or the guy who created AutoZone? Get in the zone. Yeah, get in the zone with AutoZone. And then they got divorced and she was like, I fucking hate that guy. And she just made O'Reilly auto parts. I feel really-

I'm fairly certain that's the- I hope you're not telling tales out of school with here. Apocrypha? That could be. I don't remember that one. I wish it was more of a local thing, but I honestly also, I realized that I had sort of placed O'Reilly auto parts in my brain as like a local Columbia business.

Not realizing it's a national chain. It sounds more like it could be than AutoZone, you know? Like O'Reilly sounds like it could be like, oh, I know O'Reilly. Yeah. It's on the block. That's the one that sticks out most to me in my mind. But I'm sure there are others. And maybe one will come to me by the time we finish this episode.

And if so, I'll sing it. Well, I just turned and looked over and you've got goldfish right on the table. I do. And I was like, got goldfishes. So- I don't remember that jingle. You don't remember that one? Oh, man.

My parents would mostly only let us watch PBS growing up. So I didn't have a lot of commercials in my early days. So that's- Try Kale. Kale's good. We're from PBS. I don't even think they would allow that. But there's a podcast where I don't know much about jingles,

but I do know quite a bit about Alex Jones. And I know quite a bit about the former and none about the latter. So Jordan, today we are back in the past. We're going to be going over April 18th, 2013. All right. Continuing our larger coverage of Alex's response to Sandy Hook and his coverage afterwards in the sub chapter of the Boston bombing. This investigation has really gotten out of hand.

I think it's gotten out of hand. But one of the things that I'm starting to realize is that maybe what we were looking for was the wrong thing. What we embarked on was trying to figure out when Alex changes his tune about Sandy Hook. But in the process, I think the larger story is the Boston bombing. Right. I think that broke his mind. I think you might be right.

And I think that we've accidentally stumbled onto pretty solid evidence that this is a major turning point in his career. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He believes, like we talked about on our last episode, that he has completely outflanked the globalists. Of course he does. And he just continues to lose it. And we're going to go through a good bit of that on today's episode.

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Okay. Let me read my introduction. Okay. Bombs are coming. No, they have come. Okay, that's right. We are too late on your, your alert. So, for the final time, I will introduce one of these episodes

from the Boston bombing period by saying that when Alex gets on air on the 18th, people do not know very much. This is the episode right before what I'm going to call the fever breaks. And it's the last episode where Alex has legitimate free reign to create whatever story he wants out of the random bits of internet rumors that he can find. To recap a little bit, on our last installment, Alex had found some out of context images on 4chan

and used them to create his own story of what happened at the Boston Marathon. He found people in the pictures that he felt fit his narrative and cast them like characters in a play. He saw some guys in what he decided were seal uniforms, so they were marines who were there to run a drill. He saw a white guy that he felt looked stupid holding a backpack, so he got to be the tragic white patsy,

who the globalists are going to pin the crime on so they could blame the Patriots. I'm pretty sure that one's going to be bear out to be true. Oh, sure. He saw some guys whose skin was brown carrying backpacks, so he decided that they were there to make it look like this white patsy was working with Al Qaeda to validate Alex's theories that the media is obsessed

with the idea of white right-wingers working with Al Qaeda. Which makes too much sense. All of this was just made up out of whole cloth. None of this was in any way based on anything other than Alex's assumptions and a story that he came up with while looking at random photos. From there, Alex decided he'd scooped the media and that they had been forced to announce that the FBI had photos of the suspects because he had reported on those pictures

that again he found on 4chan. That's so funny. After that point, Alex descended into a completely delusional state where he believed that the globalists were watching his every move and trying to counter him through the media. Then he interviewed Steve Pachanic, who stated that he was in a state of open treason and advocated lone actors attack the federal government.

It was a fucked up show under any circumstances, but in the aftermath of this bombing, it was particularly distasteful. Yeah, that one was wild. Yeah. I assume that it is much better and they retract all of that bullshit today and we're going to see all of them. I don't know if they do. Okay.

But the FBI had announced, by the time Alex gets on air, they had announced on the 17th that they had photos of the suspects. And Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano had testified before the House Homeland Security Committee regarding these images and videos that the investigation had zeroed in on. However, the actual images had not yet been released to the public when Alex gets on air on the 18th. And then another media outlet made a gigantic fuck up.

The New York Post put a picture of two men, two Moroccan gentlemen who had nothing to do with the bombing, on their front cover with the title, quote, bag men. The New York Post, they were operating off old tips from law enforcement who had for a moment considered them persons of interest, but had already excluded them as having anything to do with the bombing. So this was a huge problem. The New York Post's cover on the 18th.

I would say the New York Post is a huge problem. Salon called it, quote, a new low. Others described it as appalling, and they were all right. In the ensuing fallout, it was easy to conflate the two events in your head to imagine that the picture on the cover of the New York Post was the same one as the ones that were going to be released by the FBI and had been mentioned by Napolitano. And Alex makes exactly this mistake,

which we'll discuss in greater detail as this episode goes on. The larger point for now is that when Alex gets into the studio, he has a lot of chaos and confusion to play with regarding these photos. In the absence of any real, actual information, that's about the best he could hope for at this point. He's in a pretty good position from a propaganda standpoint. You would call it the pole position, if you will. Sure. The FBI press conference is scheduled to happen while Alex is on air

because he's extended his show six hours now. And he knows that once the press conference happens, he needs to be firmly in place with his narrative. He knows that that's the moment that the metaphorical cement is going to dry. Once there's information backed up by an actual investigation available, his rambling bullshit is going to be pretty unconvincing to anyone he hasn't already convinced. So he has three main objectives.

One, solidify the narrative. Two, establish a narrative about what the FBI release will be in hopes of preemptively discrediting it. And three, throw conspiracy spaghetti against the wall and see what sticks. And four, of course, salt the water before you put the spaghetti in there. That otherwise helps it stick. Yeah, absolutely. That's my mama told me.

Mama, mama! Also in this episode, we'll get a premiere of an Infowars employee. We will find a guest appearance from someone I've never heard on the show before, but I guess I've actually talked to them. Really? It's just weird. Yeah. Okay.

All right. Here's a weird intersection. Yeah, it's kind of weird. Here's a small world action. So this is the state that we're in here when Alex gets on air. Yeah. And it's going to be a mess. So here's the first clip where Alex is just sort of stating that these,

talking about the pictures, the FBI and people like Janet Napolitano talking about these pictures, they're just a cover-up because Infowars is so on the story. I am going to attempt as best I can after the break when we come back to go over all the different facets of this, but we saw a massive cover-up yesterday. Within five minutes of us announcing, we had the photos and videos of what looked like Navy SEALs along with what looked like Saudi Arabians and what looked like good old boy Patsy's they were preparing to set up all the black backpacks. CNN looked completely panicked during the break and said,

oh, now there's been an arrest. There's going to be a press conference at five. But then they figured out, wait, now when we show the photos that Jones has, then everyone's going to say, well, what about all these other people? So that's kind of just a distillation of what he is, you know, the state he's in as he's launching off on the 18th. At what point do we have to declare like a legitimate delusional break from reality? Like this is insane.

Yeah. There's elements of it that you can still kind of tell are performative. You know, absolutely. I don't think it's like you got to chase him with a butterfly net or anything like that. But it's a balance here that you could definitely tell some of this is sincere. He's buying his own bullshit. And then some of it is intentional manipulation. And it's really hard to tell what it was.

You can't find out the exact ratio. But yeah, he buys that he he thinks he's really scooped the real media. Yeah. And you can tell because he's so excited because he's literally never done that before. You know, he feels like, oh shit, I finally accidentally hit the jackpot. I finally lived up to my promise. Yeah, exactly. I have been lying for 20 years and finally.

Yeah. Yeah. And so, I mean, the issue too with that, what we talked about a little bit on the last episode, the announcement that they'd made an arrest that was inaccurate never came from the Boston Police Department, the FBI. It was something that was from the erroneous sources within the like CNN, right? So the idea that the they said that they'd got him and all they did, they didn't CNN got that wrong. You are right that that was misreported.

Yeah. But you can't claim that all of this because CNN can't be running the Patsy operation. Right. Right. It's just it's straight. It stretches credulity to imagine that they're able to do that. I understand that he's saying that the media is the presentation of all this. Of course.

But they would have to be like so much deeper. Right. Anyway, I'm going to go with MSNBC is the one who did it. Okay. That's a surprise. Yeah. See, that's the twist ending. Right.

That's our black mirror episode. MSNBC all along. Fair enough. Yeah. I'd watch that show. Yeah. So there's a quirk from the night before and that is about Obama and this gets into bullshit. That will kind of continue on this episode because on the on the prior episode on the 17th,

Alex was looking at those pictures and seeing the people that he decided were Middle Eastern. Sure. He was saying that these are North Africans and stuff. Yeah. And now he's trying to retcon that and say that he always thought they were Saudi Arabian. Sure. That was an Arabian talk going around on the 18th. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. So all of that and more is coming up today. You had an emergency meeting with the Saudi Foreign Minister and Obama that was not on the schedule with all sorts of sedans pulling up and freaking out. You had them talking about deporting a Saudi who was arrested. Oh, he's a suspect. We're going to deport him.

Let's not. For the sake of total clarity there, Alex just trails off in the middle of that sentence. Yeah. I didn't cut it there like intentionally to try and make it look like he doesn't finish his thought. He does not finish his thought. It just stops. So regarding me, the Obama meeting with the Saudi Foreign Minister, this is something

that's easy to misrepresent, but I don't think it has anything to do with the bombing at all. At this point in 2013, Obama was in the middle of a series of meetings with leaders from around the Middle East region, hoping to find solutions to the situation with Iran as well as the civil war in Syria. He did meet with the Saudi Foreign Minister, Saud al-Falzal, but he was far from the only person that he met with. I was able to find a story in the times of Israel from April 17, 2013, about Obama meeting

with the Crown Prince of UAE. The article mentions that Obama planned to meet with the leaders from Qatar and Jordan in the coming week, with their meetings having to do with, again, Iran and the civil war in Syria. Yeah. The other meetings with foreign leaders were largely ignored by folks like Alex and the right wing media because they didn't have as easy connection to possible a conspiracy angle on the bombing.

There was already a quote, unquote, anomaly with the bombing that had to do with Saudi Arabia. Context is the enemy of lies, I guess. Sure. I've mentioned a couple times so far in our Boston bombing coverage how there was a Saudi national who was questioned in the immediate aftermath of the attack and how the media had been asking questions about whether or not this individual had any connection with what had happened.

And he'd been totally cleared. No problem. You know, he wasn't involved. He was injured in the bombing. Right. Although admittedly, Crown Prince MBS would go on to cause a lot more problems. I don't think it was MBS. Are you sure?

Who was the one he had a meeting with. Okay. It was not. I was talking about the national at the bottom. Fair enough. So, look, one of the things I think is really interesting is that Alex has largely ignored this story up to this point. The reporting on this Saudi national who had been questioned in the hospital when they'd

found him after he had been injured. Either way, now Alex is picking up this thread. So, here's what's going on with that. That was a student who was questioned by the police and he was never thought to be guilty of a crime and the idea of him being deported never came up outside of gossip mills and bad right wing website reporting which ended up finding its way into the mouth of one of the senators who was questioning Janet Napolitano in the Homeland Security Committee. Right.

Because if you elect a Republican, you're dumb and so are they. This student was actually injured in the bombing, the person who was questioned, and the amount of attention and suspicion directed his way was probably a good example of the media grasping at straws to cover a story that they had no real information about. On May 24th, 2013, the Washington Post reported that the Saudi students, that Saudi student had made his first public comments covering an interview that he did with the Islamic monthly. He told them, quote, he has continued to receive death threats and hate mail to the degree that he has not moved back to his house or resumed his normal life.

In his words, discussing being at the hospital while being questioned, quote, they were really scared of me. I'm injured. I don't have anything. And they ask me, what do you have in your hand? All the police officers and the FBI and all the nurses and doctors were staring at me. I was looking at them like, is it because of the color of my skin or is it because of the name of my country?

Yes. To both. After his name was leaked to the media and covered so suspiciously and salaciously by the right wing media, implying that he was being deported as a part of a Saudi cover-up, his life got derailed. Quote, I don't know if I'm going to continue my studies. I came in to study my bachelors. I have a full scholarship from my country.

I don't know if I'm going to be safe from other people because I lost my privacy. So that's why I'm really scared. So it's not an easy thing to forget. Simultaneously, a second student in Massachusetts had been taken in by ICE on an administrative immigration violation because they were in the country to go to school and had not registered for classes. This was a completely different person. The situation was 100% unrelated to the bombing, but the right wing media heard Saudi student

twice and just assumed that there couldn't be more than one Saudi student in the school in the Boston area. It's got to be the same person. I mean, do we really want humans to survive? Honestly? I would like them to survive with better critical thinking. Yeah. Yeah.

Like really? Like we kind of have it coming. There are so many big schools around Boston. There's Boston University, Boston College, Harvard, Emerson, MIT, Northeastern University, and tons more. Pretty sure I just heard college. There are a lot of Saudi Arabian students who come to the U.S. to pursue a degree, mostly due to the King Abdullah Scholarship Program.

The program provides students with free tuition, covers their living expenses, and even pays for a trip back to Saudi Arabia to visit family once a year. According to NAFSA, the Association of International Educators, quote, in 2012, the United States saw record numbers of Saudi Arabian students enrolled in academic institutions around the country. The number cited for the 2012-2013 school year in the Chronicle of Higher Education is 107,000 Saudi Arabian students enrolled in U.S. colleges. I cannot believe 107,000 people did the Boston bombing together.

That is just so many. According to these right-wing sources. So many. Yeah. How did they all keep it a secret for so long? According to College Factual, a website that tracks various aspects of colleges to help prospective students determine which school is best for them, three schools in the Boston area are in the top 10 for prospective students from Saudi Arabia.

Northeastern University is number two, Boston University is number three, and Harvard is number seven. One of the qualifications the site used to determine their rankings was, quote, the presence of students from Saudi Arabia on campus. So it's safe to assume that there were large numbers of Saudi Arabian students in the region at these colleges, and thus one being injured in the Boston bombing and one failing to register for classes makes total sense. I probably went too far in looking into this particular detail, but I think it's important

to clearly show how unfounded and stupid the assumption that's being made here about this, that this is the same person. This student who was questioned and the student who was taken in by ICE for administrative violations. I can't think of any time historically where the mob has been wrong. So this is amazing to me. Look, I just want to point out that these are the sorts of assumptions that these right-wing narratives are being built on.

And they're absurd if you take any kind of close analysis of it. Like you really look at what's being put out. And so when Janet Napolitano is asked about this, because the guy questioning her in the Homeland Security Committee is asking like, hey, do you think it's right that we're deporting this person, even if they're not a suspect, they might have information about the bombing? And they're obviously not talking about deporting the guy who was questioned. And so she won't answer the question.

She's like, there's so many inaccuracies in that question, I'm not even going to answer that. And then that's taken as evidence of like a cover-up or she won't even answer the question. It's such a trap. I would like to say to the great senator from the state of Montana, you're a fucking idiot. Shut up. Sit down. Yeah.

So Alex gets around to bragging because through his efforts and through, I don't know, the way he's sending Dan Badandi out to harass people at these press conferences, the term false flag has become a very high Google trend. There's a certain irony to Alex saying that these people who are public servants trying to inform the public are soaking in the attention while he has just said, hey, my sort of trademark term is Google trending. Yeah. And we had a Don Salazar who unfortunately no longer follows us on Twitter.

Oh yeah. He's listening though, buddy. You're still a piece of shit. Shut up. Yeah. He's written an article about how we have good Google trends. Yes. Great.

I feel like that's the exact sort of naval gazing that he's accusing the governor of Boston. Right. Right. Which seems a little bit crass. Well, self-awareness is one of the things that on the resume, if you put that for an Info Wars application, they will light your resume on fire and find you and then punch you in the face.

It's disqualified. I have self-awareness. So the night before this, on the night of the 17th, there was an explosion in Texas. And it's kind of interesting the way that Alex is covering it because you'd think it would be the biggest deal. Yeah. It would be a false flag by the cops, I would assume. Or yeah, the globalists are doing something.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. You would think. But instead, he doesn't seem to cover it that much. But there's a dismissiveness to Alex's approach to this, which I find really interesting. But if you're paying attention to, it's very sarcastic.

It's very much like he thinks that this is a false flag, but he's pretending like it's so obviously a false flag that he's being like, eh, about it. It's a shitty term. And we are going to be breaking down all of the massive news that has been unfolding on the Second Amendment front with the fertilizer factory up by Waco exploding spectacularly and killing between 10 and 70 people. There's different numbers coming out. Incidentally, there's a big statewide drill going on yesterday and today there with helicopters

and ambulances and everything at the nearby hospital, but probably just fertilizer catching on fire and exploding. So all of this is obviously important, but the magnitude of what we are about to cover here today is of undoubtedly, undoubtedly is the culmination of 18 years of my work. Oh, no. Oh, wow. This is my career. Can't.

Got to focus. Got to focus on this one. I'm finally right for the first time. I know for sure that the fertilizer factory was a fertilizer explosion has all been built enough to this. Can't lie about that. This one I'm right on. Let's fucking do it.

No. But if you listen to that closely, like he's, he's saying it was clearly fertilized to say it was not. No, for sure. There was a fucking statewide drill going on that. That's obviously he's saying it's a false flight. Right. No, no, I understand that.

I mean, like it's, it's just, I know I'm going to be lying about that. Whereas with this one, I think I'm telling you and I don't have time to lie about this right now. So I got to put that on the back burner for later. That's what I think. But on the night of the 17th, the fire broke out at this fertilizer plant and approximately 20 minutes later, the whole thing blew up in an explosion so large that it registered 2.1 on the Richter scale, 15 people were killed and at least 200 were injured.

Not to even consider the amount of like property damage to surrounding homes. One of them was a old folks home that a lot of people got hurt there. Cool, cool, cool, cool. What exactly happened here is actually still a matter of intense debate. The ATF released the results of their investigation on in May, 2016, which concluded that the fire that had led to the explosion was determined to have been set intentionally. Some critics have claimed that this conclusion is inappropriate since they feel that the ATF only decided that because they couldn't give any other explanation for how the fire

had started. I'm not entirely sure which side I think has the better point. You would assume that if the ATF would make the determination that the fire was arson, they'd only do that in the case of them having excluded other possibilities. It seems unlikely that they would do a years long investigation and then declare something intentional without considering those other possibilities. That said, to this day, no specific explanation is known and no one has been arrested for the fire.

So it's really anyone's guess. That's weird. What exactly happened there. Yeah. Man, I mean, you gotta be pretty stoked if you get away with blowing up a fertilizer factory and nobody knows why. Sure. I don't know.

Stoked up is a guilty. I would say that's Ocean's 11 planning is what I'm saying. I would feel tortured probably if I got away with that. I mean, if you want to blow up a fertilizer factory, you can't feel tortured about it. Yeah. Well, I don't know. Maybe you could. But I guess if it's your goal to do it, you'd probably be like, wow.

Woohoo. So something that leads me to suspect human involvement was an article in Reuters where they discussed police records involving the plant that they'd looked over from the past 12 years. Apparently the plant was a very frequent target for the theft of chemicals since anhydrous ammonia that is in their fertilizer is also something people use to cook meth. Right. From Reuters, quote, according to a 2002 crime report, plant manager told the police that

intruders were stealing four to five gallons of anhydrous ammonia every three days. Holy shit. Yeah. That's a lot. Yeah. Inconsistent. That's some good math. And the problem here, Jordan, is that they didn't ramp up security in response to these

regular break-ins. Reuters found at least 11 reports of burglaries and quote, five separate ammonia leaks at the plant in the prior 12 years. Okay. Well, I'm going to go with inside job or just people who had come in to try and steal shit. They had also like mess with the valves and stuff. For sure. For sure.

Why not? There's so many possibilities in terms of like, oh, there's a lot of people who weren't supposed to be here who seem to be coming here a lot to steal chemicals. But none of that's conclusive, but it would seem to indicate a bit of a pattern of negligence at the part of the plant to secure their facility, which would leave it open to either an arsonist or someone trying to steal a shit who just makes a huge mistake that ends up causing a fire. Yeah.

It sounds more like, uh, if we're dealing with chemicals to cook meth, uh, I'm leaning more towards, uh, the guy came in and was like, oh, fuck, I fucked that up and boom. Recklessness is entirely possible, but still, oh, yeah, I'm not sure what happened here other than it was a horrible tragedy for the people of West Texas, the city of West. Um, it's, it was absolutely unrelated to the Boston bombing. And I have a strong suspicion that Alex is being, like I said, facetious when he says it was just fertilizer catching on fire. I think he does think that it's related.

Otherwise, why would he bring up this alleged drill that took place? I can find literally zero evidence that there was a hospital drill there at the time. An article in nurse.com discusses how the medical staff at Hillcrest Baptist Medical Center and Providence Health Center dealt with the chaotic and traumatic situation with a near heroic level of poise. The two hospitals had to treat hundreds of extra patients with a range of injuries, more or less all at once. They worked effectively as a team and Heather Branch, the assistant manager of the Hillcrest

hospital emergency department said, quote, it was a life changing experience. We'll forever know that no matter what disaster rolls through the doors, we will always be there for each other. One of the reasons they were able to operate so effectively as a team and able to treat victims so effectively is that a year prior, they had been part of a drill that recreated an emergency situation like this, which involved hospitals from the surrounding five counties. It involved inter-hospital cooperation, which was an essential piece of the response to the fertilizer plant explosion.

Eileen Bohannon, the emergency department director at Providence Health Center said, quote, what we learned from previous drills were put into place for this, and I cannot tell you how smoothly it ran. The only reality to the idea that there were hospital drills involved in the actual location that was affected by this is that a year prior, nurses and doctors learned immensely valuable lessons about teamwork and crisis management that they were able to put into action that literally saved lives. If you do drills, that means you're setting up a false flag.

If you don't do drills and you fail miserably, that means the globalists fucking tried to destroy you. I hate these people so much, but thank God they did that drill. That's amazing. That's really cool. Yeah. Now, it's very interesting to see the actual fruits of the drill. To see these people were able to do this triage so effectively, and the articles talking

about how some of the people that were coming in that were needing treatment were people that they knew, and so people were crying, like nurses were breaking down in the middle of it, and people would tag in. You'd be able to go cry in the other room for five minutes, and no one's judging each other because they understand that this is a human part of the response, and there's a job that needs to be done, and you also have to accommodate people who are having a difficult time with the job. You wouldn't be able to do that so effectively had it not been for the consideration of that

training. Oh, yeah. Imagine somebody you know coming in with a broken arm, and you have to be like, hey, you're fucking, you're nowhere near as important as these four people, and you have to just say, sit in there. I know you're my friend, and maybe you won't talk to me as much after this, but it'd be very difficult. I gotta save lives, yo.

Now, later in the episode, actually more information comes up about this, so I might as well just talk about this now. It's clarified that they're not talking about that drill from a year ago, although the hospitals that were affected, and actually in the area of this fertilizer plant explosion, that's the only drill that's relevant to them. Alex and his people are actually talking about a drill that affected, that did not affect those hospitals. There was an emergency preparedness drill planned for April 18, 2013 at the North Hills

Medical Center, but it was canceled because of the explosion on the night of the 17th. Now this might be interesting if North Hills Medical Center was in Waco or in West, but it's not. It's 80 miles north in North Richland Hills, Texas, a suburb of Fort Worth. This game is so fucking sad. You see how flimsy this shit is, and you realize that there's nothing you can do, like there's nothing you could do to correct this. If you think a drill at a hospital 80 miles away on the wrong day is somehow like cause

for suspicion of whether or not this explosion is real or the work of the globalists, you're almost certainly past the point of getting back to reality. And that's why Alex doesn't speak in specifics. Right, right, right. Because you would know that this shit is fucking weak as hell. I don't know, an hour and 10 minute drive isn't that big a deal. You could set up a drill 80 miles north, throw people off your scent, drive an hour and 10 minutes south, blow up a factory, get back up there, and be like, we got to cancel

the drill. Bullshit. Easy stuff. Easy stuff. I'm not saying I've planned one before. I'm just saying that. It invalidates Alex's conspiracy, quite frankly. So now we get to Alex talking about these pictures some more that he found on 4chan.

And it's interesting the way he needs to like really strengthen this argument, because I think maybe when he got off air, he kind of realized like, you know what, those are just pictures that we found on 4chan. Right. We might need to really dress this up and make it look like this is some really official shit. I think the best way to go over this today is to start at the beginning of what happened. Anonymous, and that's all they want to be known as, anonymous has contacted us as well

and it is a real group affiliated with a white hat, anonymous, and said, have you seen this data dump of photos and videos? This shows what appears to be Navy SEALs, and that was in one of their data dumps I hadn't even gotten to yet. I saw it was Navy SEALs, and it shows what looks like Saudi nationals, and it shows what looks like the Patsies, and sure enough, it's dead on analysis. It shows the Redneck Patsies. So it's now some white hat intelligence operatives who are operating as anonymous, who have sent

him this data dump as opposed to Paul Joseph Watson was lurking on an anonymous message board and found some pictures with squiggly lines drawn on them. They set it up in our digital drug box. It's pretty crazy. So as the time has gone on now, Alex has only become more convinced that he is leading the media and that the media is in fact scared of what he's doing on air. And I would say that there's probably some truth to that. Like I think right thinking people who are aware of what he was doing.

Oh, I'm very scared of what he's doing on air. Yeah, yeah. Scared of the effect that this could have, but I don't think they're scared in terms of he's blowing our cover or anything. I think they're like, uh-oh. Hey, he's got a guy on calling for treason. Yeah. Are we?

Okay. I don't think. Not just calling for treason. Calling for. Act. Armed treason. Cool. Cool.

Cool. Cool. Cool. Cool. Cool. So Alex is, is, is certain that he does something, media response. Sure. And, and I want to explain something.

They monitor this show. That's on record. Five minutes after we broke this yesterday at noon central. Hi noon. I walked out and had three TVs on two and one in the pantry in the break room and I watched CNN. MSNBC. The reporters while their guests were talking.

Messages in their ears and, and, and, and I saw the adrenaline rush like when you catch burglars in your house or something and I knew what was about to come out of their mouth and I ran back in here and I said, watch this and I knew what they were going to say next out of their mouth because live time they were listening to us as five minutes later and Blitzer goes, there's now, they've now arrested a suspect and they've got photos. They're going to be releasing photos very soon and I went on there and I said, I just saw them freak out. They're going to release photos and I said, if they're smart, I guess we're listening

to that. They actually won't because now we're going to be able to point everybody else in the other photos. The Navy SEALs, the, the, the Saudis that were getting ready to go with the good old boy angle, the liberal media run by the White House, MSNBC, media matters, all of them had already come out and said it will be a white person. It's a lone wolf. Janet Napolitano had said that Axelrod, the fix was in and ladies and gentlemen, we blew

up. Look, he's, he's convinced completely blown the op man. That's one of those things where I almost just want to be like, okay. And then just like, fine. Unfortunately, you and I are probably the only people who can't respond that way. Everyone else can just be like, all right, Alex, go ahead. It's just like, oh, that's so terrible. No one is listening to you.

And I think actually a lot of people are now, but right. Right. Right. The imagined globalists. Right. This whole thing is really easy to see through as a transparent display of narcissism and a guy being wrong. The easiest way to put it is that Alex thinks that he's way ahead of this story when he's

nowhere near anything real. The only thing that I think is important to point out here is that Alex is once again massaging facts, massaging facts from the day prior in order to make it look like he called everything. First, the announcement that the FBI had photos was made prior to the erroneous announcement that an arrest had been made. It makes little sense for them to announce those two things simultaneously as if they're saying we captured the guy and took some pictures for you.

This is a blurring of the timeline Alex is using to make it seem like the mainstream media was an even greater disarray and chaos than they actually were because that's the image he needs to present. He needs you to think that they had legitimately no idea what to do because Alex was blowing the case wide open and their response was completely nonsensical coverage. The second thing is that he never predicted that CNN was going to announce they had photos. He may have said that off air, I guess I can't prove that he didn't, but he never said that on air.

Alex was completely surprised when CNN made their announcement and freaking out himself. Third, he did predict that they would need to come up with new photos of people to pin on the attack or pin the attack on because Alex had blown the case wide open. And this I guess could be called, they could be an interpretation of the FBI releasing photos of completely different people than Alex was talking about. Another possibility, which I think is infinitely more likely, is that the FBI had zeroed in on the actual culprits while Alex was playing detective with a bunch of random idiots on 4chan and ultimately they were not talking about the same photos at all.

This is where Alex's groundwork becomes so amazingly important. On the last episode we heard him say at least twice that although he had figured out this entire case and he was right about everything, there's a chance that the globalists would change their plans. Could happen. Daniel Cavillot is so crucial to his ability to sustain being wrong all the time while pretending he's always right. If he's able to construct a reality where he's always right and evidence that contradicts

his predictions and narratives is just the globalists changing their plans because he's too right, there's ultimately nothing you can do to disprove him. He's crafted an inescapable box for his audience to live in and that's a really shitty thing for him to do ever, but particularly in response to a large national tragedy like this, it's monstrous. Yeah. His retconning reminds me so much of In the Loop. Have you ever seen that movie?

I've heard. Oh wait. Armando Ayanuchi. He's the guy who did the thick of it. I thought you were talking about that movie that starred the guys from In Sync. No, not that one. I think that's also called In the Loop. Was that from Justin DeKelley?

Was that the one? No. That's from American Idol. No. There was this, they were having this meeting in the government to, it's like a thinly veiled thing about the Iraq war. Not even thinly veiled, it is. And this guy is directing his aide to rewrite the notes from the meeting and he's said something

so chilling, which is just like, it doesn't matter what was said. What matters is what should have been said and he's rewriting the whole thing and it's like, that is such Alex the next day of just like, it doesn't matter what I did say. Right. This is what I meant to have said. Right. And that's all that matters. Right.

And now it's canon. And that's not, that's not okay to do when you try to pass yourself off as like a psychic. It's fine if you're just like, Hey, I'm a guy who rewrites my past predictions in order to make them match what happens, but so in that last clip, we heard him say that Wolf Blitzer came on and said that they'd made an arrest and they have photos blurring the timeline a bit. Right. Now it's clear in this next clip from just a tiny bit after that, Alex is clear that

the photo announcement came before the botched and erroneous announcement of an arrest. And sure enough, he says right out of his mouth, well, they've got some photos of some of the suspects right there in the finish line. They're going to be releasing. They need our help with and, and then by the next break, they talked about the, you know, the arrest. They were like, well, let's hurry up then and just roll out our John Doe number one, the redneck.

But see, then they went, no, you can't do that. Everyone's already got the photos. Alex is just making all of that up. Wow. He's just making what was going on in a place he has zero information about. Yeah. He's assuming that he knows everything about what was going on with the people behind the scenes at CNN.

Sure. That's important to point out repeatedly. He's just making this up completely. He has nothing to base this on. Yeah. Well, of course he is because we all know that Wolf Blitzer can only say Wolf Blitzer. He's like a Pokemon. Just some people understand him.

He just always says, Wolf Blitzer, Wolf Blitzer. They teach you that in Israeli intelligence, which Alex believes Wolf Blitzer is a part of how to read Wolf Blitzer. So I believe that Alex is dwelling in a state of very financially lucrative delusions at this stretch. He has another take on it. You're seeing like a spy movie on air right now. That's what's going on here.

This is just completely and totally unprecedented in the history of media. I played that also to show that he's saying unprecedented a bunch. We're on an unprecedented number of unprecedented. I believe that you could argue that this is like a spy movie playing out on air, but it's a spy movie that Alex is writing in its fiction. So that's misleading and really abusive to his audience. I mean, you could say that War of the Worlds was an alien invasion being played out on air.

Yeah. Absolutely. Didn't happen, but yeah. So Alex gets back to talking about the anonymous that sent him the data dump here. And he seems to think that they're good guys in like the CIA or the FBI. Sure. Why not? They're intelligence community.

Good guys. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The anonymous sent us and that Watson discovered and we're now in contact with them. We took the images, ran it through a Google image search to find where they originally came from.

It will show you the originator for those that don't know. That's been out for a couple of years. And we found the Facebooks in places where people had just uploaded this. So they went out, probably intelligence people that don't like what's happening, grabbed all this, sent it to us and said, here it is, okay, Jones. And then we put it out and then Drudge picked it up and it was all over the beginning of the collapse of the cover up then began last night when Drudge linked to us. Good job, Drudge.

Yeah. Thanks, Drudge. So he believes that these are good guys and intelligence who hate the false flags that are going on. So they got all the data dump, send it to Alex and go ahead, Jones broadcast it. I think it's so funny to me. Them him announcing that they did a Google image search was me was like, that is the most research they have ever admitted actually happening on this show.

I don't even believe that it's true. They just went to a couple of Facebook pages of their friends. I think Alex just knows that Google image search exists. Right. I think that's all that's happening here. So at this point, Alex is now kind of because the questioning of Janet Napolitano involved like questions about this Saudi Arabian national that was supposedly going to be deported who's being conflated with the guy who was injured in the bombing.

The talk of Saudi nationals has now become much more popular in the conspiracy world. And so now Alex is starting to build a case that it's probably going to get pinned on Saudi Arabians. They are completely and totally freaked out and they should be because here's the deal. Emergency meeting with the Saudi foreign minister. They announced they're going to deport. Now they're all freaking out this Saudi who was there but say he's not a suspect. Now they're having to show what looks like the Saudis.

You watch. It's going to be Saudis. Now they're freaking out about that and saying, well, they're not suspects, but we want to know because they have to because everybody on the Internet's already seen this. That's not a necessary thing for them to do. No. No. The people on the Internet having seen out of context images that they've created a

narrative out of. Right. Does not really have an impact on an investigation that's real. So Alex is, you know, he's saying it's going to be the Saudis. Yeah. I think it has the same level of truth to it as a rumor in 2013 that Jennifer Aniston and Brad Pitt were getting back together. I think they're, I think they were right on the same level.

It's as relevant to anything. Well, we saw. And it's also dinner one night and it's also not true. Like it's a, this prediction turns out to not be accurate out saying, I think they're going to go with Saudis. Nope. They didn't and Brad and Jennifer never got back together. So well, what a tragedy that is sad.

So in this next clip, Alex asserts that yesterday on the 17th, they were all set to blame white gun owners. I mean, this is unbelievable. And they were going to blame gun owners yesterday. They were going to have their press conference. They were going to roll out the Patsy. Let's see the Patsy. It was actually two of them.

Let's see the Beavis and Butthead central casting, a key, a key, breaky heart lookalike mullet guy who's also got a backpack that matches the one that actually exploded with the strap. So Alex is just certain that yesterday they were going to blame that guy. He was going to be the Patsy. It all got blown up in their face because of Alex's reporting. And now they're having to shift who they're going to pin it on. He's saying now it's going to be the Saudis, probably because he saw the cover of the New

York post assumed it's the same as the DHS, right? Right. I photos. It's very simple to see through. What's going on here? This is very bad work. Yeah. But one of the elements that he's using that is mixed up in his narrative is that on the

17th, they had a bomb scare and a bomb threat that got called into the courthouse that ended up making them cancel the press conference. They were going to hold that day. Right. He's determined that he knows why that happened. And they were going to roll him out yesterday, but didn't. Then they had to evacuate the courthouse to get the press out to take this guy out the back door.

And he's probably in a cement shoes right now. So this is unbelievable. Ladies and gentlemen, we have blown a major new world operation sky high. Oh my, it's unbelievable. Unbelievable. It is unbelievable. That's true. I don't believe it.

I think it's impossible to believe. So first thing here, Alex has literally no reason to think that this white guy in the photos that he found on 4chan, and he's decided is the chosen patsy for the globalists to blame is dead. He has literally zero reason to think that the police ever even talked to that guy. To be clear, the only thing that connects him to being in any way important to this story is internet rumor and Alex's fantasies. This is the definition of terrible work on Alex's part.

I don't know who this white guy in these pictures, who he is. And I don't particularly want to dig too deep into it to try and find out everything I can find leads me to believe that he's just a private citizen who is at the marathon who became a central focus on the internet's witch hunt, largely motivated by Alex Jones's desperate need to validate his fears that a white person was going to be blamed for the bombing. Until anyone can prove that he is anything other than a marathon attendee who happened to have a backpack, I believe he deserves his privacy, and I wouldn't violate that even

to prove Alex Jones wrong. But there's a more important aspect to this, and that is that wherever this guy was in the days after the bombing, he was very likely not aware or maybe he was aware that pictures of him were being spread all over the internet implying that he was involved in a plan to murder and maim his fellow citizens. All evidence seems to indicate that he was a victim of this attack and that he was there when the attack happened. They don't not necessarily sure that he got injured or whatever he might have been.

I don't know. But anyone who was there, I consider a victim of this tragedy. And instead of being left to process his experience and move on with his life, he's now being blamed for the very thing he just unfortunately had to live through. And I don't know what his experience with that was like. But from the account of that Saudi Arabian student we discussed earlier, you have to assume that it wasn't a positive experience. Going from experiencing the terror of a terrorist attack to immediately having unfounded suspicion

thrown your way is going to be a difficult thing for anyone to go through. As I mentioned in the intro, on April 18th, the New York Post ran that cover story with an image of two other people that were gathering internet suspicion with the text quote, Bag Men, Fed seek these two pictured at the Boston Marathon. The problem was that they'd gotten this is the wrong picture and the one they ran wasn't the one that the FBI was set to release or anything that the DHS had announced, but in a frenzy to be the first to report, they committed an egregious act of journalistic malfeasance. This picture that they had published had been circulated by law enforcement, but it wasn't

in the context that these two were suspects. Also other emails that were later produced clearly said that these men were quote not of interest and that they're being singled out was based on quote bogus intel. In October 2014, the New York Post would settle a defamation lawsuit for the for this cover for an undisclosed amount, but something it is so important to not lose sight of is how damaging these actions are to the people who are the subject of them. The Washington Post reported on one of the men featured on the New York Post cover, who was only 17 years old.

His father said quote his son now only sleeps one or two hours a night and sometimes refuses to go to school. This kind of fuck up is deeply traumatic to the people who end up having internet mobs track them down or they can't go to school without everyone thinking they were a part of a plot to kill civilians. As we criticize Alex's coverage, it's important to point out things like this like that the New York Post did because if we didn't, it would be slightly dishonest. They got sued to fucking oblivion, right?

Not to oblivion, but and it's an undisclosed amount, so I don't know how much they gave, but that that's exactly the important thing that's the other side of it. Like as we criticize the media like them for their horrible errors, there's a distinction that the New York Post apologized and got sued for this. Alex Jones isn't held to those same standards. He relishes acting in this destructive way and he does it with impunity. For me, that's a very relevant difference. As for the courthouse, that was only evacuated briefly because of a bomb threat that turned

out to not be real. The thing here that is that the only thing Alex has to base his theory that they did this evacuation to quietly take the white patsy out the back door. The only thing that's based on his own thoughts. There's literally nothing else supporting this. He can't prove even a basic piece of this theory and it's just embarrassing. It's made even worse by the fact that at the same time they evacuated that courthouse, the police also evacuated one of the plazas in front of the entrance to Brigham and Women's

Hospital in Boston, which Alex weirdly doesn't bring up. Alex has his explanation that's based on literally nothing except paranoid delusions, whereas the reality seems a lot like this is a city that just suffered a bombing and they're taking any bomb threats pretty seriously, whether or not they're definitely credible. That interferes with government business. It interferes with police business. I can't imagine that first text. You wake up in the morning and somebody texts you and they're like, the internet thinks you

did it. That's just like, fuck. It makes you almost want everybody to have a fucking kill switch for all of their social media profiles that just scrubs them clean and a fucking bug out bad. Right, but then the internet just thinks you're even more suspicious. Yeah, that's fine. Bug out, get to fucking Nova Scotia and stay there for a year. Yeah, it's terrifying.

You can't do anything. You can't come out and say, I'm innocent. You get more suspicion on you. You just got to let it blow over and hope no one doxes you and finds your address or something. You got to lay low for a while. That's awful. So in this next clip, Alex pretends that he had predicted that it would be the Saudis already.

Of course. I don't believe is true based on by listening of these episodes, but I'll let him have his after the fact predictions, I guess. Remember, folks, I said before all this happened yesterday, I said, you watch, they're going to come out and say the Saudis are the people with these photos. And then a day later, the photos we break that we show you and the drudge amplifies. Homeland Security comes out and says, here's the person of interest and it's the very stills and photos we showed you yesterday and no media gives us credit instead of making fun

of us and attacking us. Alex is very needy on this episode. If you hadn't noticed, he really wants a pat on the head for doing this great reporting. I mean, if he does a good job for the first time, he really wants people to have to like sit down and be like, find this one time you win. Great. We'll give you this one. He wants his own parade.

Yeah. Like he just, that's what he wants. He wants everyone to like be like, God, you have been right all along. Right. Right. Right. You have validated years of bullshit with this. This breaks the case.

And initially I had no idea what Alex was talking about with this idea that the DHS released the same photos that he was rambling about. So I've looked into it and I can't find any indication that the DHS had released any photos of the suspect up till this point. The furthest they'd gone was that Janet Napolitano had testified that the, they did have photos of the suspect. Yeah. Yeah.

From further digging, I know that Alex is just talking about the New York Post story. I consulted the M4's website and found that on April 18th, Paul Joseph Watson posted an article titled breaking police confirm info wars photos of Boston suspects, which is all just about the New York Post cover. They're making this faulty assumption that that is the confirmed police photo. Okay. It's very unlike info wars to make corrections, but I think it's because the New York Post did get sued for this.

Right. And that might explain why this article includes an editor's note. Quote, the above photo was originally given to the New York Post by the FBI as persons of interest. Shortly later, the FBI said that they were no longer persons of interest. That of course means that the police did not confirm info wars photos in this article is total bullshit. However, it does clarify for me that this is absolutely what Alex is talking about when

he imagines that the DHS had the same pictures as him. One important thing to point out here though is that the picture on the cover of the New York Post is absolutely not the same ones that Alex has been obsessing about. That was my first issue. It's not the same thing. Alex is very focused on the white patsy. And the guys that he's decided that are their Marines, whereas the post cover had these two Moroccan gentlemen, one of whom doesn't even have a backpack on.

He has a shoulder strap bag. The FBI would go on to release the images of the suspects taken from surveillance cameras on April 18th in the afternoon. But like I said, it's an afternoon press conference. So that hasn't happened by the time Alex is here on air talking about photos being released. This is all probably another negative result of the New York Post cover. Alex has decided it's an official DHS release. And now he's worked it into his narratives, further reinforcing the idea that he's right

about everything. It's real simple, but it's one of those things like the path is really windy. But it's not hard to walk if you just look at it. It's not much of a maze. You could just take it down, man. You don't have to leave an editor's note there. I mean, you should leave an editor's note there, but you should take the article down off of Infowars.

You can't write an article confirming you're correct with an editor's note saying we were wrong. Right. Can't be. And it's super rare on Infowars. Like I have found so many articles where they're just straight up 100% wrong about things. They've just left up. No editor's notes, nothing.

I have to think it's just because of the lawsuit. Yeah. Then just be like, let's make sure we're not even close to the tiniest correction. So at this point, Alex repeats a little bit of Internet rumor about this. This is one of those conspiracy spaghetti against the wall thing. Yeah. Jennifer and Brad are getting back together. Sure.

Did you know that the marathon ended, the tape ended at, what is it, 666 Boyd Street? We'll put that up. All right. Shut the fuck up. Boilston Street. 666 Boilston Street. I mean, just the weirdness of all of this. And it's so many times stuff like this happens, you know, that's the psychopaths leaving their

little calling card for you right there. Ah, the devil. So if Alex thinks it's worth reporting that the marathon ended at 666 Boilston Street, I have some bad news about Jared Kushner's property on Fifth Avenue. Don't look into that, Alex. If you look up this bit of non-trivia about the marathon ending at 666 Boilston, you'll find a bunch of very reputable sources picking up the story after the 18th, probably in response to Alex amplifying it.

We're talking about UFO blogger.com. We're talking about USAHitman.com. We're talking about GalacticConnection.com, you know, all the heavy hitters of hard-hitting news. Right. Right. And the New York Post. Wouldn't put it past them.

Right. However, if you track down where this tidbit was being reported earlier than April 18th, there's only one outlet, and thus it clearly has to be where Alex is taking this information from. It's a little bullshit website called beforeitsnews.com. Beforeitsnews was started in 2008, possibly with good intentions, as a place where any citizen journalist out there could post news items they thought needed more coverage. Naturally, this quickly became a favorite place for completely insane people to masquerade

their nonsense as journalism. Anybody who would take this place as a credible place to find information is a complete hack or delusional. Just for fun, I decided to look back and see what beforeitsnews was running as some of their front page stories at the time when Alex must have taken this 666 ship from them. I'm telling you, somebody was a lizard in these. Unfortunately, there's no snapshot in the wayback machine from the 18th, but there is one from the 19th, and here are some of their headlines.

Quote, Time Travellers are among us, exclamation point. Called it. Ha ha. Quote, Planet X Nabooru, hard evidence. I don't think that evidence is that hard. Quote, Alien implant found in Napoleon's skull, exclamation point. Okay. I like the exclamation point.

That one might even require two. And this one's a little tougher. Quote, The Riddle of the Jews, the most profound mystery in the world. I don't know. I know that's going to be bad. I went. I know that's going to be bad. And it's bad.

I know that one's going to be bad. That one. Of all the headlines, that one is the most ambiguous about whether or not, like, you could see it fall one way or the other, but you know it's going to be bad. It's bad. It's going to be bad. It's not good. The Riddle of the Jews.

Jesus. It's very interesting. Very. Oh, man. So, uh, and then there's a bunch of coverage about how the Boston bombing is a false flag and a lot of links to Alex's coverage of it. This is part of that ecosystem for its news. So there's an essential problem with saying that the finishing line of the marathon was

at 666 Boylston. And that is the fact that by definition, the finish line spans the entire street. Thus, if one side were at 666 Boylston, the other side would have to be maybe 665 Boylston or 667. There isn't a, you know, yeah. This all traces back to a purported Google Earth image that I'm 90% sure is photoshopped. Here's the reason I think that. Okay.

The image shows a marker saying 666 Boylston in the middle of the street in the center lane of traffic. And it's indicating that the center of traffic has an address. Right. The street itself does not have an address. The buildings do. So it seems strange to me that the street would be showing up as having a physical street address.

The second issue I have is if you look at Google Maps now and you consult the street view, you can easily find the finish line of the marathon. Regardless of whether or not it's marathon season, that line is always painted on the street. If you look at the side of the street that's evenly numbered, you'll find that the marathon's finish line is pretty closely matched up with the Boston Public Library, whose address is 700 Boylston Street. The building immediately next to it appears to possibly be a different building.

And it's actually just an extension of the Boston Library known as the McKim building. It's easily identifiable by its inscription on the side of the building, quote, the common wealth requires the education of the people as the safeguard of order and liberty. Ironic, in some ways, based on these people being so dumb spreading these theories. The McKim building is the home of a lot of like research collections and it's a goddamn gorgeous piece of architecture, particularly inside. Looks so cool. The McKim building's physical address is 230 Dartmouth Street as the main entrance is on

the intersecting street. Dartmouth. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. There is no 666 Boylston Street.

These conspiracy theorists could say the finish line is near 665 or 667 Boylston Street, but they know that sounds weak as shit. So they just pretend that this is a real address and it means something. You're you're mistaking it. Okay. That is in the middle of the street because what's directly underneath 666 Boylston Street is hell. Okay.

That's the physical address of hell and it's in the middle of the street. That happens. The hell is actually underneath the WWE ring. Yeah. Oh, wow. That's fair. That's fair. The hell.

Right, right, right. Well, they have a system of tunnels. Yeah. They pop paint or, you know, the other supernatural characters will pop up and drag someone down under the ring. Yeah. Demons are a lot like gophers. Yeah.

Yeah. So it can't be under Boylston Street, unfortunately. Good theory. But we know it's the WWE ring. No manhole there. Nothing. Ah, shit. So this is nothing more than bullshit promoted by a completely crackpot website.

And amplified by Alex, probably one of the least harmful instances of this whole thing, but stupid nonetheless. And you'd only be doing shit like this if you wanted to create unnecessary suspicion about bullshit. That's like people using the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles address as like 224 and an eighth. What is that? How can I find that? Like the pizza delivery.

Yeah. Yeah. So in this next clip, Alex is deepening his expressions of how fucking pissed off he is that no one's giving him credit for breaking these pictures ahead of the DHS announcing their pictures, which are obviously the same. It would be annoying. And now I looked at Janet Napolitano. She looked like a deer in the headlights like she was completely freaked out.

And on methamphetamine today, during the congressional hearing where she said, we do have two photos of men of interest, the photos we showed you yesterday, I'm going to say that again. You know, the New York Times are seeing in our Fox News said, Hey, look at these photos. We found don't these look suspicious? You know, they'll show you a guy on the roof all day and say, who, who is it? Who could it be? Because there it's all blurred and you can't tell. But for a day, there are these photos and videos and none of them will show it until

the government says now it's okay to show this. And they show you some photos that we already showed you and no one gives us credit. Instead, there are hundreds of hit pieces saying, I'm crazy and dangerous yesterday and today. You know why I'm crazy and dangerous? Because I've got my head screwed on, ladies and gentlemen, and I'm not stupid. This is really sad. You know, in hindsight, but it makes sense, like how he could trick people into thinking

this in the moment. Yeah, like it's the next day when the FBI has actually released the pictures. This looks really stupid. This looks like a child thinking he's right about something and mad that everyone's saying he's wrong. Yes. Yeah. And actually kind of illustrates why people would write hit pieces about him being irresponsible.

Right. Right. Because you were wrong about this. Right. You, you were putting undue focus on private citizens in a way that's deeply dangerous. Yeah. We'll give you credit for fucking the shit up, but you were not right about anything. Right.

That pat on the head. Yeah. No kidding. So it's not only that now, Janet Apolitano, the DHS, all of them have come out with the same pictures that Alex has been reporting on for a day. They're also now apparently in the congressional record. Okay. And it looks like the Patsy, when you see the explosion, he runs with his clothes half

blown off like a cartoon character, you know, somebody Sam has the bomb go off. That's what it really looks like when a bomb goes off close to you. You see him running, probably set up. Probably, that's probably their suspect. They had him at the courthouse. They were going to roll him out and they canceled it. And again, this is not my speculation. I told you yesterday that these are the photos of the Saudis and then now today it's in congressional

hearings, the photos of the Saudis. The congressional hearing is the Janet Apolitano speaking with the Homeland Security Committee in the house, but these pictures weren't released then. She just discussed that there were pictures that they had. So this is just Alex yelling about nothing. You know, this is bullshit. But on our last episode on the 17th, Alex had Steve Pachanik on to commit treason specifically for that purpose.

I assume. Yeah. Well, I mean, it was partially that, but also to give the motive for the false flag. And now we see the next day that Alex is just parroting that. The exact same motive that Steve Pachanik gave him, Alex is using it. Also two days ago, a congressional bipartisan commission said there was a systematic order of torture, including children by Bush and by Obama and a deliberate attempt to cover it up and continue to order the military to engage in hardcore class A felonies, punishable

by death, by the way. That is the punishment for torturing people to death, including children. Again, this wasn't a bipartisan congressional report that came out. It was made by a non-governmental organization called the Congressional, or I'm sorry, the Constitution Project, which is funded, the specific report was funded by grants from the Rockefellers and the Open Society's Soros Foundation, which is all a lot of bullshit. But Alex is using it. He's using it as like they needed to get that out of the headlines.

That's why they did this false flag. You see all the pieces coming into place. You get the answers for the why, the how, the who, and he needs to do it because he's running out of time. Yeah, it doesn't matter where you get your ingredients if it helps you make a good soup. And you know, it's just very, the thing that's such a bummer about this is like it's so easy to see through. Yeah.

If you just look at it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But it also is like I can project back to that time when there's not a lot of information available. It's such an easy thing to manipulate people about. It's such a dangerous space to have large groups of people in this high anxiety, high tension state. Yeah, you're scary.

You're like even if you would normally otherwise be able to see directly through this for the transparent bullshit that it is in a fucking emotional overridden state, it's just going to hit you before you can really do that. You've got to mist over your eyes. You know, you've got the fog of war going on over your eyes, that kind of situation. Yeah. And I think it comes back to the same thing where it's like cult recruitment is a lot easier with people who are in vulnerable states in their life.

Like you just have a breakup or you know, something like that, you get kicked out of your house, parents kick you out. It's much easier for nefarious groups to come in and attack. And in the same way, I think it would, like I can see how it would be so easy for people to be seduced with Alex's conspiracy bullshit that again, like all of this is not based on anything except him looking at pictures and being like, ah, that's what that guy is. Right. Right.

Right. You know, it's, it's, this is the perfect time for something like this to happen. The ingredients are so right for him. And it's, I think that's a lot of the part of why looking at this makes me really anxious is because like you can see the variables there and you can see Alex behaving in such a way as he, like to suggest that he's aware of that too, like to suggest that he knows that this is when the tide is coming in and I have to act. Yeah.

I mean, but that's, that's been borne out probably throughout his entire career. I'm sure it is. After every tragedy is his moment to strike. I'm, I'm sure it has, but this is on another level. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it feels so clear in a way that other, other ones that we've looked at have happened.

Yeah. Yeah. And it's, so the government and the media and the globalists, they're in crisis right now because Alex has busted their, their whole game and this clip is stupid. See, the government right now is having to come to Jesus moment because they all play it being tough. They all play it being evil and they all play it, you know, doing hardcore stuff, but you know, becoming evil to guard good and that old Machiavellian lie of guard the truth with

lies and be more evil than the devil to protect good. You don't protect good. You become the devil. Sure. And you lose providence when you do that. You lose God's hedge of protection. It's a curse on our land to have these leaders. Would you say that you lose the mandate of heaven?

You know, that's kind of bestowed on a very touching goal. Would you say that the leaders lose the mandate of heaven? Do you say the hedge of God's protection? I suppose. I suppose. It's funny that Alex now seems to think that's a Chinese thing that Pat Robertson is indoctrinating people with. And it seems very consistent for him.

Well, the hedge thing is more of a green thumbs scenario. So perhaps, perhaps Chinese don't own green thumbs. So in this next clip, I don't, I don't know. So Alex in this next clip, he, he teases that he's got a message for the globalist because he knows what they're listening. And it's kind of fun, but also I should tell you, he never gives his message to the globalist and later at the start of the next hour. I want to talk to the globalist.

I thought about this this morning in a moment of clarity, I have a message. I have a message to the globalist that we're going to be going over and getting to. He doesn't get to that message. But I mean, you could argue that this entire thing is kind of his message. Yeah. But he never sits down and is like, all right, here's what I want to say to you this Sunday in a moment of clarity. My first thought was, I'm a monster who should be destroyed.

And my next thought was, here's what I need to say to the globalist. I should talk shit on the globalist. Yep. So Alex believes that he starts spinning into a little bit of religious stuff throughout this episode. Sure. And one of the things he discusses is the fact that he has guardian angels and he is literally unkillable.

And I don't mean to get off into mumbo jumbo. That's not what it is, ladies and gentlemen, but it's real. I have guardian angels and the neural order cannot kill me unless God decides it's time for me to die. You understand that? I cannot be killed until God decides. And my whole life, incredible things have happened. That's pretty wild.

I mean, based upon his interpretation of the Bible, that is true regardless of whether or not he has any kind of heavenly protection. Yeah, you know what I mean? Like everybody's, everybody's date and time is predetermined by God. Right. But I don't know if that's like what he's saying. I feel like there's more behind it than that. Right.

Right. Right. There's like a, there's like a, he's bulletproof and tell, no, no, I understand because he's here on a mission from God. Right. Right. Right. And I'm totally fine with the idea that people have like vague notions

about guardian angels and stuff like we've all had close calls. That'd be like, whoa, afterwards, like, holy shit, I should be dead. Yeah. And if you want to believe that that's divine protection, I don't care. That's your prerogative. However, I think that the way that Alex is framing this is super fucked up. For one, he's making it a thing where God has to decide in order for him to even be killable.

Anything that anyone could possibly do to him wouldn't work since God and the angels are protecting him. That's all good and well. But if you really believe that, then why would he be so obsessed with guns? Why would he constantly talk about how many guns he keeps in the studio? Shouldn't he be comfortable in the fact that even if someone broke into a info wars HQ with a gun, they wouldn't be able to do anything because he has God's protection?

The question gets even weirder when you consider that Alex now employs round the clock bodyguards who are allegedly ex blackwater employees. Why would Alex need mercenaries to protect him if any attack against him wouldn't work? The only way to make this make sense is if Alex knows that he doesn't have God's protection, he knows that what he's doing is evil. And while it works really well to pay lip service to this idea of God having made me an indestructible warrior deep down, he knows that he's

manipulating people and is a force for bad in the world. File this, Jordan. Under the heading of more possible evidence that Alex did join up with those Satanists. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I do think I do think that might be the case. Yeah, as always, God's God helps those who shoot other people. That's how the saying goes, right? I suppose so.

Really, like the only way to make that make sense is if he like he wouldn't have these bodyguards and be obsessed with the arming himself to the teeth. Yeah, if he felt a divine protection, he would be all about, uh, you know, non violence and, uh, right, uh, walking through life untouchable. Like Jesus. Yeah, yeah, you would be more like Jesus or the Christ or, you know, the the professed leader of his religion. I'm sure he does have some like oil paintings of God with like an AK.

In his house, I would assume that he does. Yeah. So Alex gets to talking about Dan Badandi, who as we heard on the last episode, uh, and I believe even the one before that, um, has gone to Boston and he is an official info wars employee. He's there with an info wars mic. He's yelling info wars.com at everybody and trying to disrupt these press conferences that the mayor of Boston and, uh, the authorities are trying to give

to, uh, calm the public and to help them get whatever information out is, uh, is known and determined by these investigations. So Alex gets, uh, to playing this clip, uh, the clips of Dan Badandi's up till this point work at press conferences. Um, but it takes him forever to get to it because he can't stop talking about the footage. And this is, this is the, this is Dan Badandi. You see it from his perspective at the camera with the governor and the police

commissioner and the mayor and the, and the ATF had all looking at him like they want to kill him instantly. See if in criminology, if somebody doesn't, doesn't recognize what you're saying, I've had cops question me before and FBI and secret service. And they're watching to see when they show me something. If I automatically recognize it and they're sitting there watching to see if I have to remember it. That's basic police work.

And the minute Badandi asked him, they jolt when he says the drill and the false flag and their eyes all come alive and they swing around and start, start, you know, I mean, guilty as sin, guilty as a pig. And you know what? Now it doesn't mean they did the bombing. It means they know the drill. They've been told shut up and, and, and the governor, the governor looks, what goes from being the fake smiley guy, like he is at the memorial service to

instantly battle mode. His eyes, his eyebrows go up, his teeth almost show. I mean, he, he, oh yeah. No, he doesn't. He literally just says no next question. Yeah, he doesn't get mad. Nothing like that. But does he almost show his teeth, Dan?

I don't think so. Oh, I went and watched Dan Badandi's POV video of the press conference and they don't show anything close to what Alex is describing. If you go and watch them, you'll see if anything, an exceeding level of patients being displayed towards Dan Badandi. They don't kick him out, even though he's clearly being disruptive and making accusations as opposed to asking questions. Governor Patrick does not almost show his teeth and rage to answer your question.

Okay. Honestly, the best you could argue based on the footage is that he expresses slight annoyance. This is really important to Alex's narrative, though. No matter what response Dan Badandi got, Alex was going to frame it as these officials being caught with their hand in the cookie jar. It's really a very basic propaganda trick. You go and send some annoying asshole to go yell at a press conference and you

have a pretty high likelihood of him causing a scene. If he gets thrown out, you can argue that they can't handle the truth. If the officials yell at him, you can make the same argument. I think Alex was kind of betting on something like that happening and all Badandi managed to provoke is the governor giving him a one word answer to his question. Because there's nothing here, Alex has to go really overboard in characterizing the video and it's honestly really pathetic.

Yeah. Another important point here is that the video that Alex does end up showing is edited to make it look like the press conference ends in response to Badandi's question, when in fact they've just cut out the officials responding to other people's questions. This too is a crucial piece of Alex's narrative. He needs to make it appear that they're so afraid of this question of false flags and the drill that they run away from planned press conferences to

reinforce, to reinforce this narrative that Alex is pushing, that the information he's putting out is so dangerous and real. All of this is smoke and mirrors and edits because they know damn well if they just played the raw footage of the press conference. Badandi would just look like a sad, loud loser who the adults are putting up with politely and that doesn't work well for the narrative. You force the narrative. They're scared.

Yeah. That would be a good test of their, of Alex's gaslighting powers is that could you play the full unedited video and coach people so well beforehand that when they watch it, they do see what it is you think they want to see, right? Yes. Like that's, of course you can do that. Once the narrative is in place, that's what they'll see when they watch the video, even if they don't see it, most likely, even if they don't see it, they'll

say that they saw it. Like, it's almost like I'm surprised that they even bothered to edit the video. Well, it makes it, you know, it makes it easier, easier as a point of entry. Cause right now you can't show the, because it's not established nearly that's a good point. That's a good point. He's, we're not going for just the diehards. We're trying to get new eyes on Alex knows that his traffic set on the last episode

is traffic double. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's trying to get people to do Google bombs where they, like everybody's searched for false flags, so the analytics goes even higher on it with all of Alex's articles are tagged false flag and the meta tags and stuff like that. So obviously he knows that's going to drive more traffic to him.

He's trying to do this. Yeah. It's, it's a, yeah, yeah, yeah. The full press conference would work with people who have already internalized the narrative. Right. But you need the edited version in order to get them to the point where they would internalize it.

It helps. It's one of the only things that's like intersecting with the real world of this investigation is we have Dan Badandi yelling at people at press conferences. It's such a crucial piece of the propaganda pageant that Alex is putting on that you need to edit it. But I do agree. I do agree that eventually you could just show the whole thing. Yeah.

Yeah. And it wouldn't, it wouldn't matter, but not at this point. Yeah. No, that's what I'm saying. It's, it is another really interesting difference between then and now where, you know, the president can admit to committing crimes and people will be like, nah, he didn't commit crimes. They, he just primes people to, to believe whatever it is he want.

And now in the present, when we're listening to Alex Jones, he's not really bothering with trying to attract, you know, he's trying to attract new listeners as much as possible, but he's not bothering with trying to trick them. He's like, here's what you get. He has some. I mean, if we don't often end up listening to his clips that he plays of Trump, but they're often, you know, the parts that are most interesting to other folk are not included out there.

Yeah. And the times where he says incredibly stupid shit, right, isn't, isn't included. Okay. So I mean, there is still editing presentation to fit his narrative for sure. Right. But I think, I think your point also stands that he's probably less interested in the wide net appeal at this point. I think, I think he probably recognizes in 2019 that that boat sailed.

Yeah. The big tent is gone when in 2013, there was still some pretense of like, I could probably appeal to everyone. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um, so Alex is mad that the media won't show the photos that he broke a day before.

Again, this is like a recurring theme through this episode. Just mad at the media, uh, they're covering it up. They're controlled. The controlled media won't show the pictures that I broke. The government isn't showing these photos. Well, why not show these photos media? You'd think, Hey, look at these photos in full wars.com has. Look at these photos of all these people.

Is it, you showed me a guy on a roof. Well, all these guys in doorways crouched suspiciously with big black bags right where the bomb went off. You, oh, but it doesn't fit the narrative of the redneck. You were going to blame us for the bombing. I mean, I could see the whole buildup and the, the controlled White House run media, MSNBC and others were saying, we told you it was going to be a white tea party or it's a lone wolf.

Homeland's Kurti. That's all they'll say they're getting ready. Haha. We got you gun owners. We got you. We got you. You, you got us as I know you're watching right now all angry. Most of your foreign intelligence operatives and globalist, you're all

stomping around right now at media matters and MSNBC, taping what I'm saying, hopping mad, probably, probably, probably, you know, imagine some papers have been thrown and who got blown, who got defeated, who got exposed, who tell me again. And I'm not taunting these people. I want them to understand they're going to be defeated. So, I mean, it's important that he even says it. I imagine papers were thrown. He's just fantasizing about what's going on and passing it off to his audiences.

This is what's going where we're in a toe to toe battle with the media. It's so stupid. It is, it is a, so like now it's, it's like, I'm so used to it, but it is still incredibly annoying when these supposed powerful men whine and whimper so much. They do this all the time. Why isn't the media paying attention to me? Why don't I get all the coverage? That's the, that's the flip side of Alex's narcissism.

Yeah. Like that, that's the soft underbelly of it. Well, they, they all do it. Just whining all the time. I'm so powerful and why doesn't anybody like me? Yep. There is that dichotomy. So this is something I delight in.

A lot of this is really stupid. This, the, the, his coverage of the, the bombing, a lot of it is very intensive in terms of like figuring out where he's getting these ideas from and stuff like that, but every now and again, you find a nice oasis and this is one of them. Alex decides to read a comment from an info wars article. Oh, no. And he realizes in the middle of it, I shouldn't have started reading this comment. This is great.

Mike down for this. In our article on info wars.com, Obama covering up shoddy link to Boston bombing. I love the comment by anonymous. Real quick, just to point out, it's really important to, to, he said he loves this comment. He doesn't, he doesn't think it's actually, no, I think it's, I think he knows, he knows it's just an anonymous comment.

That's irrelevant. I don't think that he thinks that the only important thing is he sets this up by saying, I love this comment who commented at 11 a.m. Simple arithmetic. Guys, you can punch this up. Thank you. Simple arithmetic. My friends, one orchestrate bombing on patriots day in city of original

Boston tea party to detonate bombs. They're the finish line at the end of the race. Uh, where slow Caucasians trudged forth and not earlier when the Olympic caliber and it goes on, we're also about to finish line three, create major news distractions. Uh-oh. This dude's a racist. This comment is super racist.

It's one of the things that I'm super pissed off about, about Alex being deplatformed. It's that like they, when the company that moderated his comments dropped him, all the comments disappeared from info wars, like all the articles. Yeah, I can't, I can find this article that Alex is talking about, but there's just no comments on it. I can even pull it up in the way back machine, but comments don't populate anymore.

I really wanted to track down this comment because I wanted to know if the commenter used the N word. I, I, that's my only question. Yeah. You can totally hear Alex realize that he started reading an explicitly racist comment and, uh, you know, he started off by saying, I love this comment. He realizes I'm in trouble. There's nothing funnier than Alex saying, quote, Olympic caliber and

it goes on, it goes on. It's so stupid. Alex, say that they were going to put it up on the, on the screen. Um, they may have, I don't know. I can't find video of this, but it's like Alex thinks you can just edit out, edit out the parts of things he's reading that create problems for him by saying it goes on. He tried that trick when he was reading that article about his fan who kidnapped

his children. So he wouldn't have to read the part about the guy tying up the kids grandmother. And now he's clearly doing it. So we wanted to draw attention to the fact that he introduced this clearly racist internet comment by saying he loved it. The only question I have is how racist it was. If it threw Alex for a loop, that makes me think it had to be really racist. I would bet it's N word level racist.

Oh yeah. Either way, Alex realized that he was in a bit of a pickle since he said he loved the comment. So he tried to mask the comments, racism, but he made the mistake of keeping on reading. And here's what happens. D communist fascist taker of USA by New World Order with closet homosexual closet Muslim sociopath, a foreign plan Obama as point man dictator.

And again, I don't read that to be mean to gay people or something. I actually hadn't read the full comment. I thought I would just read one. This is kind of silly, but I had right right there. I had read this comment. I haven't read it. I hear him giggling when the comment says that Obama's a closet homosexual. They don't pretend that you don't love this shit.

It's so stupid. I love this comment. I hadn't read it. Love this comment and word and word and word and word. Fucking coward. Maybe I'll start in the middle. So that's the level of shit that's taking up some of his time reading comments that he hasn't read that he finds out a racist in the middle of them.

I love this comment. It's titled the riddle of the Jews. How do I write this great article on before it's very insightful. So 30 white horses on a red hill. I think that the fact that he's taking time to do shit like that should indicate that this next clip might not be accurate. All right. If you're just joining us, this is the most historic radio broadcast in 18

years I've ever done. We received from anonymous and we did Google searches on the photos that confirm they were from Twitter accounts and news stations that didn't know what they had. We received from anonymous contact sent to Paul Watson and we are in contact with the folks that sent us the information. They've asked that we not mention what hacker group they're with. We'll just say they're anonymous that they went out and it's obviously

intelligence people who don't like what's happening that Navy Seals were there at the event at the finish line all over the place with radiation detectors, black backpacks. We're talking 20 feet max 20 yards in 20 and 60 feet from the bombers right there by the flags. There was a drill which they've been caught lying about. So the important thing here is that it's so important for him to paint this anonymous person or 4chan being his source as intelligence

operatives because it's such a hole in the narrative and he needs to patch up that hole. It needs to come from some very legitimate credible source which is these anonymous good people within the intelligence community who are sick of the bullshit otherwise closer analysis is Alex you just took this from a message board. What are you doing? See I can't understand how it is where he's supposed to how it is we're

supposed to reconcile two things in the same sentence which is first we Google searched it and it's been on a bunch of Twitter accounts already and two it was given to us directly by these intelligence officials. The Googling and the Twitter accounts was after the fact after the intelligence people had gathered all of those photos from all these disparate places and sent them to Alex in a data dump in reality Paul Joseph Watson was cruising 4chan right found these images told Alex about it and now they've created a backstory right for a better source for the information

right right right. It's not annoying. It's not professional work. No it is not it is not but Alex I mean it's and the reality of that Google search is still the jury's out it's debatable Alex knows how to perform that operation but he does know it's real which is good so here file this next clip under the headline of Alex just constantly complaining that no one is like again throwing him a parade for his awesome reporting this

shows you how control the media is it's so good only info wars dot com and drugs report dot com are covering this and the photos we released are the photos they were forced to then put out the very photos a day later but they won't say the media stands around to wait till the government gives them a photo and ignores hey who was right not wow good job info wars dot com Paul Watson Alex Jones Matt Drudge Matt Drudge's crew oh I mean you know he's just so bent out of shape that no one is congratulating him for doing bad work yep like obviously it's just insane but it's so pathetic this is the first

time he really believes he did good work I think you're right I think that's why he's responding yeah he's like for real guys look I you know I know yeah we both know what's been going on I mean but this time I didn't he always wants a parade but yeah extent to which he is like so focused on no one giving him credit yeah it does have a different feel to it than a lot of other times just wild so Alex starts faking hyperventilating on air in order to sort of sell the illusion that this is like real serious sure and in the process ends up making a ludicrous statement of course I'm having so many butterflies

that I'm actually hyperventilating on air okay I mean I mean that's how big this is because this is like catching people again burying with dead bodies on film in the backyard this is this is open and shut smoking gun you call in all these people you ask who ordered them to do what you'll find out who was in charge you'll find out who was handling who you'll find out who did this and who blew up the marathon I mean we're sitting here this will destroy the globalist so it's an open and shut case man we caught video we caught video of them burying the bodies in the backyard that you agree that this is open and shut

I don't think there's any other conclusion I could draw based on the evidence he's provided this case is not open and shut let me explore with you here some of the things you'd need to do even if you're gonna listen to the way Alex saying like first you great get these people should ask them who's are on and what right even these steps are still needed to prove his case even if he's right okay not first you got to figure out who these people are in these photos Alex's crack team still hasn't put any names to anyone and this anonymous intelligence agent he imagined is contacting him doesn't seem to know

who any of these people are so that seems like it's still a hurdle that needs to be hurtled so that's a problem the globalists remove people's names whenever they become operatives next then once you figure out who these people are if they're willing to submit to an interview you can ask them questions but there's no guarantee that any of them are gonna talk to you that could be a difficulty if let's you know like let's pretend that Alex is the cops and one of these people says I want a lawyer Alex seems to imagine he could just take these out of context pictures to a judge and they just keep saying come on at them

until they give you a subpoena or some shit part of the globalist deal with the devil is that if you get caught you have to tell the truth it's a reverse the police have to tell you that the police situation next then imagining somehow you compel these people to talk what if you interview them and they say that no one was ordering them to do anything what evidence do you have that they're lying if the guys like Alex thinks are marine special ops just said we were at the marathon and you think we look weird what evidence is gonna provide to contradict them this would be a disaster of a case to try and prove

anywhere except for info wars right this fantasy bullshit where Alex has just decided all these connections he's making in his head exist in the real world really is scary it's very scary if you imagine that he means all of this you know like yeah that like oh this is an open and shut case like it's not you improved anything yeah based on his no numerous lawsuits in the like it is it's almost like he really doesn't understand any of the laws or how court works no like he just doesn't have any concept of it no I think that might be a function of him always having really shady lawyers so we get back now to this sort of theme

throughout the episode of Alex wanting a parade for his great work sure and then there's a sort of break in the story that isn't a break you notice no media is going wow Alex Jones of all people got the photos of who they say they're looking for now why didn't the media over several days and you think I'm so busy you know you think I'd be looking at this stuff close and it was all hiding in plain view in front of everyone do just came in here during the break is why I'm hyperventilating with a stack of new high-def photos and and stills out of the the city of Boston surveillance footage and it shows the

handlers of the Saudis and you can see the body language all of it and again people say oh you're just speculating oh I told you who they would be forced to release with the Saudis I told you the Navy SEAL stuff that's now all over the place it's not all over the place like it's not it's in the shit media online yeah and the New York Post cover yeah however it's important to point out that the post didn't get the image that they used from the same source that Alex is pulling from though they're guilty of a similar journalistic crime they were at least operating off bogus emails from actual law enforcement reporting bad

information that they didn't thoroughly vet whereas Alex is getting random pictures from 4chan and writing a story about him because Alex gets all of his news from websites that are completely full of shit and since a sensational nonsense he naturally thinks that the entire to the media is talking about the same things he was covering already and that he was way ahead of them it's just because he's conflated these things he saw the post cover and he also heard that Janet Napolitano had announced that the FBI was going to release pictures of the suspects he doesn't realize that the FBI has not yet released these images so

he's most likely assuming that the post cover is in fact the release of the suspect pictures the men on the cover were Moroccan but Alex is dumb and racist so he assumes all brown people are basically the same so he thinks that this picture is of Saudi Arabians who are at the marathon who are the new patsies now that he's blown up the hillbilly angle he's further conflated the Saudi student who was injured in the bombing and an unrelated Saudi student who was taken in by ICE for not registering for classes had turned them into the same person in order to suggest that the Saudi Arabian patsy is

going to be taken out of the country then that's what this meeting Obama had with the Saudi foreign minister was about it's really interesting because all the faulty steps he makes in his reporting are pretty clear if you just listen to him and have some distance from the actual event super easy in 2019 to see the glaring holes here and how he's so eagerly fills them in with the narrative of his own design but in April 2013 it'd be fucking hard to concretely point out these lies yeah you could say I don't know if that makes sense you couldn't say like oh no here's you know that's demonstrably untrue yeah there wasn't a

lot of information going around there's a climate of fear and anxiety and the way he so confidently makes these dumbass assertions is seductive it's really one of the worst parts about looking at this stretch of time seeing how dumb what he's saying is but seeing how easy would be to be convinced that there's something to it I know I'm saying that kind of consistently repeatedly because I think it's an important idea I think it's as we go through this like it's important to not lose track of the the climate and how people's emotions were at that time and how he's willingly and aggressively manipulating them yeah I

think he gave up the game on that clip because he said the media isn't saying Alex Jones of all people is correct on this that of all people means he knows because he generally presents himself as being 100% correct all the time so what it should be is they are forced now he's like now they're forced to admit I'm correct yeah as opposed to him saying Alex Jones of all people because we both know the deal well that all people it turns out I'm correct this time that could be the case or he could be expressing that he's aware that the media hates him and so they would be saying of all people we hate him but

he's right about this right it's possible either one is a possible reading I suppose so Alex gets into a fantasy here about how this white patsy that he's found in these pictures is be like probably being tortured like it's it's only white patsy I know is from Jessica Jones all right patsy Klein yeah what so he just has this fantasy about this dude being tortured it's kind of gross there's video and photos of it all there's video of undercover police it looks like leading the the mentally ill that's what the guy looks like to me body language all of it leading up the poor patsy who probably thought he was a

secret agent now he looks so proud to be on Team America he doesn't know he's gonna be drugged up and rolled out as the new McVeigh and gonna be electro shocked tortured drugged up for trial just like all the other patsy's it's so horrible and and you know what the operation was blown for you this is unprecedented so now they're gonna say oh maybe it's Saudis oh we sent them back to Saudi Arabia never mind oh we met with the Saudi foreign minister emergency meeting we canceled the press conference blah blah blah on and on and on they do not want this out they do not want this discussed they do not want

you talking about it they do not they needed to blame the Patriot Tea Party for this so bad no you needed oh yeah the appearance of them blaming it would have been so good because he keeps talking about this and I can't really find a lot of good evidence that people were blaming right wing white Patriot folk yeah and he keeps saying that they're all over the media saying it and he doesn't play any clips of that I went to Info Wars I can't find any articles of them demonstrating that yeah I think it's just the fact that he's built that up as it needs to be the narrative that they are doing this is now established

and he's reporting on his own perceptions right from previous days I don't I don't think that the media needed to do that I think he needed that yeah it's gross and all that stuff about this dude is just imagine yeah all of it is just he saw a couple of still images of this guy and has decided that he's mentally handicapped he's decided that he got enlisted by a oh you're gonna be a hero all this all of that is made up it has nothing to do with any reality that he can point to like anything other than his fantasies right that is it I'm always I'm because he because he ascribes everybody's traits to their

appearance like always if he thinks somebody is bad Hillary like a demon they look like demons like all of that shit I am always curious of what it is he would describe himself as looking like in the mirror like I would in the same way that I want specifics on a heroic cowboy Calvin Klein model who's just put on a little bit too much weight right busy fighting the globalist right it has to be something like that right that is how he describes himself but how how could you possibly see that like that's something that fascinates me is like what it is that his eyes I want to see what he sees I'd rather not like I want

to know if there are pink elephants flying through the air like I want to know there's always carnival music exactly I should correct myself Alex doesn't just fantasize and have his own ideas about them blaming the Patriots he also has evidence I mean that's why Gary Hart on the CFR Commission wrote public letters and a paper saying we need stage terror attacks just like PNAC did the September 20th rebuilding America's defenses thing and then we one time we are changed it's in my film Truth Rising founding at an event he was at a book signing and came up and said you wrote those letters and put up

that public report you know saying we stage terror attacks in America and that we should do it again he goes no I didn't what are you talking about son they go here's your letter and when he read it he started sweating and going oh well I that was a mock letter I see they don't even think of us as human you publish this stuff in the CFR you publish this stuff publicly and we're not supposed to go with a copy of it so this Gary Hart letter let's find out about this Gary Hart letter this is some sloppy bullshit so I can't find a clip of what Alex is talking about with him sweating and freaking out mostly because

I'm not willing to watch Truth Rising just to find some context for what he's talking about Gary Hart's reaction I'm certain that Alex is embellishing and misrepresenting Gary Hart's reaction but none of that really matters on 911 truth.org there's an article about this letter that Gary Hart wrote the first thing that's important to point out is that it this letter wasn't written for the CFR or anything like that even if Gary Hart was a member of the CFR it was an op-ed he wrote for the Huffington Post in September 2007 okay the letter is titled quote unsolicited advice for the government of Iran and one thing that's

important to point out is at this point in 2007 things were not good between the US and Iran in January of that year the US has had raided the Iranian liaison office in Iraq which was serving as the de facto consulate and they took five consular officers hostage which they wouldn't release these dudes until July 2009 shit was super tense yeah and Hart's letter exists within that context was Iran taking unsolicited advice at that time or I'm not sure if they were reading the HuffPo I don't think they I don't think that was their main his unsolicited advice to Iran was that the US does not go to war unless it's

provoked but sure but but sometimes it seems like certain more hawkish elements like to provoke provocation but it's important to point out what he's talking about is not false flags necessarily he's talking about advising Iran to avoid giving someone like Dick Cheney the excuse he's dying to find to justify going into another war from the letter quote you would probably be well advised to keep your forces including clandestine forces as far away from the Iraqi border as you can you might even consider bringing in some neighbors to verify that you're not shipping arms next door tone down the

rhetoric on Zionism you've established your credentials with those in your in your world who thrive on that if it makes you feel more powerful to hurl accusations at the American Eagle have at it sticks and stones etc but for the next 16 months or so you should not only to you should not only not take provocative actions you should not seem to be doing so for the vast majority of Americans who seek no wider war in the Middle East or elsewhere don't tempt fate don't give a certain vice president we know the justification he's seeking to attack your country yeah this letter in no way is saying we do

false flags and we should do more of them that's an absurd misrepresentation of the message that Hart was expressing but that shouldn't be too surprising at this point I remember I specifically remember the next day when the Ayatollah had a unsolicited letter to Gary Hart in the Huff post that just said who are you yeah and that was it he actually thought he was Corey Hart yeah letter made no sense yeah no it was weird stop wearing sunglasses at night so in this next clip Alex loses his mind yelling and all of this is bullshit just keep that in mind as we look to this like you think we're animals like all these

other people you think I don't see you don't think I don't know you want to raise my property taxes and got the Second Amendment and take my kids from me and you say the state runs my kids on MSNBC you don't think we're not gonna fight you you don't think we don't know you're gonna blow stuff up and try to blame us you don't think we're not watching now you rat bastards you don't think there's not fight left around here not all of us are in comas watching TV buddy not all of us are busy you know down the bar watching UFC looking tough in front of our buddies not all of us are here to be run over not all of us are

fake men you know how swine I've got I've got countless clips of CNN and MSNBC even yesterday going you know it's gun owners did this you know they use powder from the gun shops to do it I mean I even predicted that he does not play those clips but surprise that clip right there is nothing more than performative masculinity yeah there is no passion behind any of that that was completely artificial and most importantly nothing he's saying is true like I said he's yet to play any of these clips of CNN or any other media outlets salivating at the thought of this bombing being a gun owner right

winger and nothing I could find on his website seems to prove that at all he's just playing his role and he's seeing that it's working like his traffic is way up so he's leaning hard into being the guy who knows everything about the bombing is willing to fight you over it but unfortunately he's living on borrowed time because in reality he knows that he hasn't predicted anything yeah the thing that I'm particularly interesting there is how he said that he predicted that the globalist would ban powder from the gun shops there at the end of the clip he didn't predict that if you recall that came from a 4chan post that he

read on air when he was trying to present as a troll post which he started agreeing with as he read it if anything he should be saying they're blaming the powder from the gun shops you heard me convinced by a troll post that that was going to happen but that doesn't quite sound as good it doesn't roll off the tongue the same way not really no so now in 2019 I can look back and confidently say that they didn't outlaw powder nor did anyone seriously propose the idea shit the bombs were made from fireworks and you can still get fireworks in most places and the places you can't didn't ban them because of the

Boston bombing they did because some kid lost an arm a decade ago and the city council voted you can't you have to drive to outside city limits to get fireworks yeah yeah that's all that nothing Alex is saying is real this is all just performance presented his truth because he knows his traffic is up and he knows what makes him interesting right it's this sort of bullshit yelling overconfidence I'm right about everything I've predicted all this shit he knows that that's the honey that he can get people drawn in with I always like when he adds those tiny little personal annoyances that's like like going to the

bar and watching UFC is fairly specific is mad at Rogan they're like there's a you know he's referencing somebody in particular Rogan won't have him on his right like it it reminds me a little bit of Dante's Inferno whenever he creates all of these specific hells and he populates them with people that he knows like this motherfucker right here yeah all the globalists are like this asshole Dave I hate Dave all the globalists are rather you be watching UFC Joe let the random name random pick it out of the hat yeah it does feel that way maybe some job but it also a comedian or whatever

it also falls in line with his like anger at sublimating masculinity like yeah yeah of course but I mean who cares he's just talking shit so anyway Alex says in this next clip that he there were Democratic fundraising letters that he found that were going around they were saying we need another Oklahoma City bombing sure and this isn't true I mean you people are running around in Democratic fundraising letters saying to your million-dollar donors don't worry there'll be a new Oklahoma City we're gonna win our agenda your money's well spent with us even letting their donors am I don't worry we're gonna blow stuff

up I mean I have to sit here and watch you these psychos on power trips reading their teleprompters on MSNBC going you know all the twinkly eyes of just criminal energy just going and you know it's an RA that did this bombing and they're gonna get these people I mean just over the top authoritarian scum still you had to play any of those clips so I can't find any evidence that there were ever any Democratic fundraising emails that said things like don't worry there's gonna be another Oklahoma City bombing there's literally no way I believe that such a thing could exist without being plastered all over every

single right-wing media site online I would imagine that what's being misrepresented here is that some organization maybe even the SPLC sent out a fundraising email that discussed the growing threat of right-wing terrorism not as a positive thing but as a thing that they make it their business to keep an eye on it would make sense for them to raise money by pointing out that you know as the Tea Party movement is grown the more dangerous militia communities have grown along with it reaching levels unseen since the mid 90s which did lead to the Oklahoma City bombing that would make total sense for

them and Alex's track record is littered with him misrepresenting things like that so I would probably assume that's what he's talking about yeah I can't I mean if they sent that an actual if they literally sent that actual thing as a real thing we would still be hearing it from all of the evidence of it would be everywhere yeah every day we would still be hearing see how evil the SPLC is like every day yeah the closest I can find to this is a couple of comments that people made that were saying that Obama needed a unifying moment to save his presidency back in 2010 in one instance Mark Penn said in

an appearance on hardball quote remember president remember President Clinton reconnected with Oklahoma right and the president right now seems removed it wasn't until that speech that Clinton really clicked with the American public Obama needs a similar thing this isn't saying that Obama needs a new Oklahoma City bombing to save his presidency it's saying that Clinton reconnected with the American public in that speech that he gave after the bombing and Obama needs to similarly reconnect it's not about the terrorist attack it's about the speech the other instance was Robert Shapiro saying in an article in the

Financial Times quote the bottom line here is that Americans don't believe in President Obama's leadership he has to find some way between now and November of demonstrating that he's a leader who can command confidence and short of a 9-11 event or an Oklahoma City bombing I can't think of how he could do that you could read that as a guy saying that Obama better fake a terrorist attack soon or you could read it as a political commentator using an extreme example to express how bad a situation Obama was in at the time Mark Penn's comment came a couple of days after the 2010 midterms when the GOP won back

control of the House and gained six seats in the Senate effectively putting a halt to most of the hope that Obama had of having a cooperative Congress so you can kind of see how a political commentator might see the prospects right then of not being good then Shapiro's comment literally says quote between now and November and that's referencing that he said this right before the 2010 midterms yeah Shapiro is articulating that there's a rise in tide within conservatism happening at the same time that Obama's approval ratings were falling and it didn't look good for him so he's probably going to

get battered at the midterms and he did yeah the only way to read either these comments is expressing the need for some fake terrorist attack is if you're already convinced that that's what the people are saying I can't even think about 2008 to 2010 I just can't think about it shouldn't like if I think about it hard enough to like Obama we had a Democratic president super majorities in the House and Senate and the astonishing amount of power you can see now is just welled by 37 senators yeah it's like we could imagine if Bernie had been president don't even think about oh I can't think about it I can't

think about it so while I can't find any evidence about a Democratic fundraising email or letters similar to what Alex is saying I should tell you that I did find a fundraising letter sent out by then executive vice president of the NRA Wayne LaPierre six days before the Oklahoma City bombing in 1995 hey guys we're about to blow up the Oklahoma yeah the letter painted federal agents as thugs out to quote harass intimidate and even murder law-abiding citizens right according to an article in the Christian Science Monitor about the letter quote Mr. LaPierre urges gun owners to take action before there's no freedom left

in America right now obviously this letter didn't inspire Timothy McVeigh to blow up that federal building we can be sure of that because of the timing it just doesn't work out it's not soon enough it's tough to get around the fact however that what initially comes off as exaggerated bombastic advocacy for gun rights kind of looks like exactly the same ideology that inspired the bombing of the federal building a week later oh and then I also found an article from the LA Times from April 28th 1995 just after the Oklahoma City bombing listen to this damn headline quote Oklahoma City after the bomb

lobbyist stymie efforts to trace explosives bombs technology such as such as the use of tiny chips and material to find blast origin has been around for years but NRA others have blocked its usage my first thought that headline is unwieldy someone needed to take another pass at that yeah the 90s were tough yeah pre clickbait era yeah yeah different time different time you see though there are these indestructible microscopic chips called taggants they can be put in all explosives sold in this country they could very easily trace back any bombs used in attacks like this in the 1980s the office of technology

assessment did a study and found that implementing the use of taggants quote could increase arrests related to bombings by as much as 75% but you know what that's unilaterally a good thing right we want more if we if people bomb stuff we want to know who did it right that's a good thing the NRA was super against it I don't know why and the lobby really hard against the move and ultimately defeated it I can't imagine why there are people who are like the the group that represents explosives manufacturers were against it as well of course but their reason was because they make explosives for like mining of

course and yeah that sort of thing and demolition and their position was that it adding these taggants could make the more volatile explosives or there could be safety issues other people other people have studied it and said that it wouldn't yeah so there's a lot of back and forth I don't I don't think that the NRA is above board on this anyway when people talk about how the NRA is basically a terrorist organization it is some of the reasons the red their rhetoric is indistinguishable from domestic terrorists and their actions make it exceedingly difficult for law enforcement to solve crimes committed by

domestic terrorists yeah that's why people make those sorts of comments yeah it's a you know it's like if if ISIS was like hey don't investigate us oh wait no it's exactly like that because that's who they are right yeah so when Alex eventually does get around to saying that people are blaming the NRA it might be that there is a news report about how the NRA blocked the efforts to put taggants in explosion sure sure sure I'm guessing that probably on MSNBC or CNN there was a small piece about this history of advocacy that would have made solving this bombing probably super easy but then again I don't know if that's

the case I don't know if these taggants would have been put in fireworks as well right right I don't know if it would have but anyway it if anything it was just a discussion of their advocacy for making the bombings harder to track yeah that's it that's a noble cause Dan mm-hmm so anyway this next up Alex tries to make people more afraid there's high death video and photo everywhere they're now admitting that we were right that we broke it but not giving us credit and it's hidden in plain view I'll give the number out open phones in the next hour and then the gun grabbers throwing fit so they haven't gotten our guns yet but

don't worry they've got schizophrenics on drugs wound up probably putting guns in their hands right now so the the globalists are putting guns in the hands of crazy people that they've drugged up because they're gonna come to your house they're out there well obviously the it's right now this is happening there's going to be more attacks because I've blown their operation sky-high everyone admits that I'm right but they won't say it's me it's crazy this is insanely irresponsible so he says that the gun grabbers are freaking out and one of his main pieces of evidence is that Harry Reid in giving a speech said that we

don't need to be caught off track and and get distracted by these black helicopter types who say those false flags naturally so of course the black helicopter types who say they're false flags freaked the fuck out in Alex's introduction to talking about this he accuses Harry Reid of throwing a fit there we go if you listen to this he's giving a very calm speech that Alex throws a fit while listening to sure this country and everything good in the world was founded on guts and it was founded on telling the truth and and when you know evil's going on you got to not lie to yourself about it and rationalize and be

all shaky and oh who knows no day one I said I saw the build up to this false flag and this is exactly what it looks like now and now Harry Reid is talking about false flags as he throws fits saying that they've been unable to get our guns here's a clip of that we can keep them off the streets we should keep them off the streets you got plenty of guns don't you bud 1920s organized crime was committing murders and that was used to restrict our guns they still got them so Congress dramatically limited the sale and transfer of machine guns yeah full auto you don't even need that a bunch of bulls try to take our guns

then try to hold machine guns basically disappeared from the streets they're in movies but not private citizens had them yes we can it should make the same common sense of crime drop 49% last 20 years of war assault weapons that's why I will vote for Diane but you're a criminal who only wants the guns for yourself punk because we must strike a better balance between the right to defend ourselves and the right of every child in America to grow up safe from gunfire like the ones that got blown up at the all vote for the band because maintaining a law and order is more important than satisfying conspiracy

theories he's black helicopters oh really false flags oh turn him off that's enough of that punk listen we're getting to them they don't like it full speed ahead intensify operations just abs discredit them every time you email one of our stories every time you talk about false flags every time you expose what they've done every time you just just bring them closer to defeat again the only sort of solution is you give me free advertising yeah promote my shit that's the only solution they were advocating for it go yell at people or whatever right I mean this is just further in that pattern that Alex has

that like this is Harry Reid giving a very common sense measured reaction Alex can't allow that to stand it's too sensible yeah he's already portrayed it as him having a fit so he has to keep interrupting it yelling over the clip otherwise you'll realize he's not at all having a fit no he's completely misrepresenting what this is this is this is how Alex deals with content that he has to alter I mean let's hey look Alex just to be clear don't talk over clips to people who can't talk back that's my job right better at it oh boy shots fired so Alex said that they're putting guns in the hands of

schizophrenics who are on drugs sure and they're coming and he continues that line here saying that they're gonna have to do another false flag now that Alex has blown up their original one they don't know what to do they had the fake arrest they were gonna announce it was a gun owner they had everything and now it's all screwed up by the grace of god you wanted to frame us and now you can't so better carry out another false flag real quick huh that's what you you guys always do the same thing so I've been thinking about what they'll do and they'll probably blow some more stuff up and they might have set the fire at that thing up in Texas

that's a perfect thing to get this out of the news they're in total panic mode I don't know that I don't have evidence of that so we don't know but they do this kind of stuff so they are prime suspects sure also go to infowarstore.com and by the books a high quality water filters the lowest prices with promo code water for all the water products a rare 2013 ad pivot that was a high quality ad pivot too that one was a good one so in that clip in the same breath Alex is saying that he has no evidence or proof that the explosion in west Texas was a false flag by the globalist but because he's decided that's how they operate they're the prime suspects it's the type of thing

the imaginary enemy I created who always does that always does that's demented thinking oh yeah using that very same level of shoddy logic I could just say that one of Alex's fans did that west Texas fertilizer plant fire it is the type of thing Alex's fans do it would be so easy I could just say that the fire was set on the night at the 17th and hours earlier on Alex's show he had Steve Puchenicon as a guest declaring himself in an open state of treason against the government encouraging lone actors to fight back against the state that had no authority to rule and since he's full of shit a fertilizer factory makes sense I have no evidence one of Alex listeners did that but that would be the effect you'd expect to see when a high level credible expert goes on

a rabidly anti-government radio show and tells the audience that treason is okay and it's time to act obviously I don't think that one of Alex's listeners blew up that fertilizer plant but I want to take this moment to demonstrate a flimsy the level of inferences using is right actually even then yours makes far more sense I think yours is far more likely personally feel that but it's not true just just on account of how much meth I imagine Alex's fans do perhaps yeah I don't have any data no I look I don't know this could be true so this is kind of gross because at this point in the episode Alex starts sort of trying to reclaim the story about the child who died in the Boston marathon oh no he can't reclaim that that's too late he starts trying to you know he's saying that

they're using it to make you like emotional about the bombing right and and he's trying to pretend that he wants to use the kid's memory for something else sure but I I would rather not talk about that at all quite frankly but it's important because in this clip he discusses his feelings about Sandy Hook and whether or not there are actors and I think you might be surprised to hear where his head is at let's put the little boy on screen you know the eight-year-old the media has been using poor little eight-year-old print me an article about him I want to talk I want to talk about him after we take calls coming up you know they're using him I mean imagine he died the Boston marathon and they'll put out fake conspiracy saying nobody died to discredit us all that's a

Cass Sunstein option but then there's also some mentally ill people out there that you know nothing's real because they've lost confidence in the government see a lot of idiots now know the government's lying so they don't believe anything and just because the government's lying all the time and doing stuff doesn't mean that everything is a lie or doesn't mean that you know nothing happened to Sandy Hook no no no if they've got a chance to kill some real kids they're going to because they enjoy their work is that you've killed adults and stuff I mean only thing that really makes you feel dark and powerful is to kill little kids I mean I've studied history criminology and our hearts go out to that little boy's parents oh good his he studied

criminology soon as that I mean what he's saying is that uh the people who are saying that no one died at Sandy Hook are crazy yeah I have bad news about the guy who committed treason on your show yesterday yeah yeah he has published articles on his blog about how no one died at Sandy Hook he is crazy though so Alex is technically correct but Alex is not presenting him as crazy and he's had him on as a guest that's true 10 times yeah since April 1st uh Steve Pochetic has been on a fucking ton on this show and he's someone who absolutely believes something that Alex says crazy people believe yeah so great Alex who then Alex would later believe clean house Alex no this is sad so anyway um you know talking about this kid I think is pretty gross for Alex to do

um especially because uh as he talks about it a little more he begins by bragging about his empathy I have extreme empathy for people I don't have a transitory fake emotional thing where I only have empathy when the government the media tells me it's okay Iraq he's kill them all glass parking lot there I only have empathy when they're white but then you see somebody they tell you to care about your luggage terrible and then they were gonna say the tea party blew him up can you believe those dirty gun owners MS said me see was gonna come on and I'm real sad and go of the little boy killed by the gun owners killed by the dirty tea party people we're gonna go to commercial the president's coming back with press conference right now because they're nothing the

tea party won't do they're so evil we better take their guns we come back I'm gonna give the number out and take your phone calls on this situation do you agree with me this is the biggest thing ever this is all his imagination he's mocking an imaginary reporter being emotionally moved by the death of a child um this is all just his fantasies he's a sick fucking person yeah who's projecting that sickness onto uh size of the audience yeah yeah and uh I disrespect it greatly that's that's just such a if we talked about you know like the first thing that you should ask anybody is like are you proficient at everything and a psychopath says yes I'm great at everything and that includes the one thing they are literally one to one

incapable of doing which is experiencing empathy he's great he's like I have the best empathy which is the least empathetic person uh the least empathetic thing you can say yep so Alex uh he starts or continues down this road that he is arguing that these images that came out the New York Post are the same as the ones that he sure has and that the media and the government and the investigators and the globalists they all had those photos this whole time sure and they were just itching to release them so they could blame this white patsy um and then Alex starts taunting uh these imaginary enemies okay all guaranteed in newsrooms everywhere they want to run with the photos of the navy seals and the army and the and and the redneck and and you know

MSNBC and CNN had it all loaded days ago the photos were known they had to build it up who done it and they were already ready that's why they were like saying yeah it's a lone wolf it's not Saudi Arabia that's what we're getting from the justice department Axelrod says but we're not gonna tell you yet we want to make sure they're likely got these people come on can't we break it can't we release the redneck patsy first no no they've got him and they've got him on ice but just just get ready gotta build this up before we destroy the tea party all right but you waited too long didn't you that's a lesson for you you waited too long you because we had you off balance exposing false flag and taking over the press conference that you were looking at things and while you waited

we hurt you bad but they're not destroyed yet they're still dangerous this is embarrassing fuck off but that's the same thing the always the you know we're infinitely powered they have but they close their eyes for one second and that's what we struck it's a key tactic of fascism so alex has more pictures of the the bombing and the marathon that he discusses and i have been sort of you know holding back a little bit of information coy kind of i just you know who cares um and we'll dispense with this okay major piece of alex's narrative after this clip and the whole thing is blown wide open now we have the navy seals with the navy seal caps walking around directing the police on video guys will you show the footage of the navy seal with the radiation detector

right after the bombs go off right there in command and and the other guys are standing around on the street with their big old black backpacks and they're standing right there at the end right there with the guys that's blow everything up reportedly and oh no we shouldn't put all these people on the news and ask who are they because there was no drill so when alex first started talking about these pictures of the marines and stuff there's nothing suspicious other than what he's imagining yeah yeah yeah so i just let it be and you know okay who cares about this this is stupid he doesn't have anything to prove anything uh just that he thinks these people look suspicious right but i knew it was going to escalate and now we've gotten to that point where it escalates

and it requires a bit of an explanation because there are the people who are in these pictures more pictures have come out of them and they are like one of them is holding a radiation detector yeah so let's discuss why uh so he there could have been radiation when alex embarked on this conspiracy road regarding these guys who he thinks were in a seal team there wasn't any information to go on it's purely based on a couple pictures that he'd had and he created an entire story around entirely out of his own fantasies however as i said as the days went on more pictures of these people came out and more information became available that really shot holes in his theories and now i'm going to lay waste to all this nonsense the first thing that you need to understand is

that alex has repeatedly cast suspicion on these men in tan pants with backpacks because they look suspicious one of the primary things that made these two men that were caught on camera suspicious in the immediately is that they appeared to be distracted and talking on phones that picture was presented as being before the bombing happened and showed sketchy dudes who were up to something their behavior and the way they were looking around was used as evidence they knew something was going to happen however later it was revealed that this picture was a cropped version of a larger image if you look at the actual picture this is very much after the bombs went off they appeared distracted and not looking at the marathon and would have you because bombs had

just exploded right right right that's a good reason to be distracted from a marathon but that doesn't address their outfits they were wearing the same pants and shoes and it so was someone who alex has now found a picture of holding a radiation detector so what's up with that more that still seems suspicious it's not Mormons okay on the day of the bombing people who weren't trying to spin absurd conspiracy theories had already found the answer to this question these men were members of the National Guard this was reported on CNN's live blog on April 15th at 3 45 p.m. just about an after an hour after the bombs had exploded quote troops from the massachusetts national guard were assisting police as well this naturally raises the question though

why is the national guard on site at the boston marathon you know this would be a good question for alex to ask but he's so far away from the actual story that he doesn't even realize the answers he's demanding are already available on april 18th sergeant first class john susie published an article in the air national guard website about interstate assistance that's common between national guard units in particular these civil support teams which is what these men were members of quote the massachusetts team was on duty during the running of the boston marathon augmented by similar civil support teams from the new york and rhode island national guards alex legitimately couldn't couldn't have looked at too many of

these photos too closely because a number of these dudes have big letters cst on their backs short for civil support team oh yeah that would make sense kind of a giveaway yeah that would help yeah yeah yeah i guess it would be easy for alex to just say that it's the same thing you know i have faith in him that he'd still be able to spend a conspiracy theory out of these dudes being you know that it's just from their completely different organization than he's decided they're in yeah it's still suspicious that civil support teams are there right probably not on april 16th 2013 eric durr the public information director for the new york state military and naval affairs division told the global security newswire quote anytime you have a high key event where there's

a lot of people there's usually a unit from the civil support team in the area to provide assistance to first responders it turns out this is very common according to an article in the washington military department's website their civil support team quote supported the presidential inauguration the governor's inaugural ball and worked with the seattle fire and police at every seattle uh seahawks home game they also helped the minnesota cst due to their increased need for assistance during the 2018 super bowl all of these events uh and tons of other large-scale gatherings include a police presence and they're regularly augmented by members of the civil support teams and the only reason this time time sticks out in anyone's mind is because it was the

time when there was actually a terrorist attack that necessitated their activation right these teams are specifically and specially trained to respond rapidly to chemical and radiological dangers which is why you see one of them with a radiation detector in one of the pictures from right after the bombing right they're an important piece of the security puzzle because in case the worst thing possible happens they're trained and ready to deal with it it wasn't the case that the bombs that went off at the marathon were dirty bombs but if they had been you'd be thanking your lucky stars that those dudes were there because they could have saved a lot of lives yeah anyway none of this really matters alex could still easily say that the fact that they

were there means that they knew something was gonna happen or the cst being there meant this was a drill i guess that's a decent argument if you want to call every seahawks home game a drill too none of this reality uh that of who these men are is going to puncture alex's conspiracy bullshit but it's still important to point out that by the 18th when this episode is being recorded it's been two days since eric durr publicly talked about who these guys are if alex is researching this in any way and he's really into the truth like he pretends to be he should know this information by now and he doesn't and you know what's even more interesting none of his callers know this either this is very publicly available information and if these

info warriors are really digging into the truth like they say they're interested in i would expect for them to at least be coming up with conspiracies about the correct group of people but they don't they just mirror back alex's narrative that these are seals or mercenary groups it's very cult-like and you know what i know that this is publicly available stuff because i only used information that was available by the 18th yeah yeah to look into who these dudes are and the the the cst teams like it's it's crazy like i i just i can't i can't express how stupid this is alex being like we demand answers who these people are the answers are there yeah dumbass just look no well i mean they don't demand answers they demand the answers we want right i have no interest why dan why is

it that you never see any islamic leaders condemning a radical islam after a terrorist it's very much the same phenomenon yep it's the same shit see what you want you're not looking for answers you're looking for your narrative i i honestly before you even told me like it's really interesting the cst thing i'm really glad i learned about that yeah but if he had if you had said that he saw he had a photo where they were using a radiation detector my first thought is like this is just like those old timey photographs where it looks like a guy is holding up a cell phone but that's actually what a hearing aid looked like back then like whatever you say it is it's bullshit yeah or i mean even if the answer to this question is that they were just like off duty

military people there who were there for the bombing yeah like one of the things that the fema director at the time craig fugate said in an interview was that um or i don't think it was at the time i think this was just something that came out around that time from a different speech he gave yeah i can't remember exactly but his point was that like when you have tragedies first responders in our mind are paramedics and police but often in reality first responders are people who are there you know like yeah yeah yeah yeah your fellow citizens might be the first responders put a tourniquet on you right right so you could you know if the reality wasn't that these were cst team members and that's redundant i apologize cst members cst you members yeah if they weren't

that they were just off duty military people you could still see like their first responding they have some sort of training the police might enlist one of them to carry a radiation thing around right it would be conceivable but yeah the reality is a field medic off duty is not just going to be like well not my problem and head home fuck this noise yeah no shit yeah so oh man this is a big deal and i don't want to be anywhere near it so i think this should pretty much explain why a lot of alex's suspicion about these dudes and tampants in these photographs is bullshit and you know what this also explains why no one's interested in these photos yeah because anybody let's say the fbi who's investigating this would look at that like no there's the cst members yeah

they would know what this fucking dude people are they're god damn it drives me crazy yeah so transparent yeah and all this is i can't stress enough how maddening it is to look back at this and be like all this is known it's known it's not like this is closely guarded secrets yeah who are these men yeah i mean but that's that's the way it all it it's it's i think it's frustrating just because of the immediacy of it in a certain sense uh in that we've been you know on this long roller coaster ride of an investigation but it's it's like any but it's like any historian being like uh seriously stop saying that the civil war was about states rights it's in the god damn declaration that it's about slavery and people are like no no no no you don't know what you're talking about i have

it's right here it's the added frustration too of like seeing this and be like oh this could have been stopped yeah like this information is available someone could have pointed it out but in reality i understand too that like those feelings don't plague me too much because i know how good alex is at this stuff and i also know that the cst does do training like they train local police of like departments for some of the uh like preliminary stuff that they do right right and so you know because that's also part of their mandate i could easily see alex being like ah they train people therefore exercise yeah you know it would be still easy for him to make a conspiracy out of course but i don't know i just i wish i wish that i honestly don't know what

i wish yeah i would like to see more cst training and less training how to shoot unarmed black people for my police that would be nice that would be nice so alex is mad here in this next clip because sorry shoot i mean murder he sent dan badandi to boston to yell at the press conferences and derail and rightly people are not thrilled with this people are like this is bullshit yeah this is disruptive behavior this guy is full of shit um and so he's mad particularly at glenn back critique i mean hell dumb to the hint where oh there's no drill they told our reporter and then the national media said how dare alex shows the mega troll that was the was that yahu news how dare the mega troll sent his reporter to ask about a non-existent drill the scum the scum and glenn

back spent 30 minutes yesterday last night our crew heard it rebroadcast about the terrible conspiracy site we all know who it is that that says there was security people there and that and that there was a drill god alex jones is just so low i mean there's nothing he won't do he's so horrible i mean he's such a bad man hate to agree with glenn back but no kidding when you're right you're right god damn it you got to give it up to the somali pirates when they know what they're talking about uh-huh so alex gets around to predicting that all the people in the pictures that he has promoted and put out are probably going to be killed sure which is real nuts yeah but see most these people will be killed very very quickly now and this is like the jfk deal

it's this big i predict they're going to kill a bunch of the seals that were there i predict you're going to be done in car x you're going to be done a heart attack you'll get shot at shooting ranges you're all dead so the only chance you've got is to go public right now with what you know these seals who are actually uh cst uh folk uh that everyone who is is looking into this knows about already yeah this is just sad this is just sad anyway alex is convinced that these are not civil support team people because he doesn't know anything right he believes that they're marines and seals but should probably higher level than even green berets because there are levels higher than green berets and alex has a great citation for this okay he can prove it

unintended they just think they can call us conspiracy theorist but now you've got a navy field convention well what looks like a green beret uh retiree convention and by the way you could just become a green beret to then get recruited into black ops it is there's like five more levels above it at least at least there's levels above delta force and uh okay the most accurate thing is in that movie no way out with kevin costner and he goes who are these men they're following he goes they're men formerly associated with special forces yep it looks like those exact guys like crouching in doorways with big black backpacks looking out like they're on i mean just this is so bad folks this is so bad yeah that is bad yeah that is bad that is bad very bad yeah

yeah there's so many levels you know what maybe there are but your evidence of it the best thing that's ever been shown this is a fucking movie yeah stop i would challenge alex i would love it wasn't even the best kevin costner movie tin cup sure i would challenge alex to redo his career with the stipulation you can never cite a movie and see how well he does yeah you can never use a movie as evidence for what are your bullshit ideas yeah yeah at what point do you just start saying it's the men in black sure you know like fuck off alex so alex in this next clip gives a pump up speech uh that is great we all love a little bit of fake passion sure but if you pay close attention to this i think what you can do is really see the way that alex makes a one

to one connection between standing up to tyranny and subscribing to his version of christianity join me in defeating tyranny throw fear to the wind realize the only way through this is to realize the enemy operations and to grow up and face the monsters that lurk and inhabit our government and major corporations the only way to be free is to be free and stand as free men and women have done throughout history and declare your independence declare your independence at a spiritual subatomic level declare independence in your soul in your will in your intellect and then that will will work its will upon the world being free is a is a decision and that's all you have to do is commit to truth and ask god to open your heart open your mind and to use you as a vessel

against evil pray that prayer and turn yourself fully over to life and the holy spirit and the universe will open up and the living water of jesus christ will flow straight out of the time space continuum and you will truly be free wow that's insane man you see though there's this like explicit connection between his political ideas yeah and trying to evangelize for his fucked up version of christianity it's very it's very clear in moments like that it happens with on a semi regular basis though like that that explicit connection is drawn it's it's troubling yeah i don't know how like here's what i would imagine for him post info wars all he's got to do is just edit a bunch of those type of clips together and he's got the next best-selling self-help book right

like that sounds so much like an eckhart toli but with fucking rock music behind it instead of soothing maybe nature sounds i think it'd be interesting to see i think his next best idea would be like kill himself no oh okay it's never the answer it would be to just be like okay i realize that the political sphere is never going to save the world from the globalists i must be a church i don't i don't think that's likely but it's the best way for him to make money yeah he could make yeah yeah yeah for sure um it's it would be very similar to like kid rock going country yeah sad cash grab uh sort of thing so um one of our recent episodes was in the present day i can't quite remember but alex was talking about how god was talking to him but he also said could be god

could be my self uh subconscious yeah yeah you remember that uh i do yeah which is troubling very troubling because if alex is mixing up god talking to him and his subconscious it's an issue it is an issue this next clip presents an even bigger issue just when i'm totally tired you got a headache exhausted i will literally go in my office and just get down on my knees and say god give me energy give me strength to fight and then and then my subconscious the devil and everyone to call comes says oh look you did a bad job look how obnoxious you are look it doesn't matter my heart's right i'm doing the best job i can you're not but also alex can't tell the difference between the devil and his subconscious so now if he has a thought or a feeling or a premonition

a notion it could either be god the devil or his subconscious right and he doesn't know the difference between any of them right that's really bad it is it is he oh man and this is bananas but he reminds me so much of krunk from the ever's new groove when he's got the little angel and the demon on either shoulder and he's like he's just unaffected by either they're both saying nonsense and he's like yeah my nonsense too whatever and they just move on that's so he's literally talking about having a little angel patting him on the back or a demon telling him he's evil both of which is just a symptom of fucking depression subconscious yeah exactly and he doesn't know the difference between and he has no clue what's going on the difference could be that is it could

be god is telling him that he's doing such a shitty job and he thinks it's the devil the difference between like uh patrick warburton and a cartoon and alex is that alex has a radio show and he's a religious fucking zealot in right wing extremists that's an issue yeah that makes the stakes a little higher as opposed to a uh simple simple minded uh heart of gold uh clunk uh-huh krunk yeah so alex gets to taking some calls on this uh here episode and this first caller that we're going to listen to is interesting because he uh actually does know that the pictures aren't really the suspect and that the new york post cover was a fuck up okay how's this gonna go uh i mean alex is real fluid so it's all right okay i found a uh news article from the new york magazine

claiming that there's gonna be pictures of the two suspects coming out today but within this news article it's not claiming that the suspects are the two suspects that have gone viral in all these pictures it's going to be two other suspects and these two suspects in the pictures have gone viral the guy in the blue jacket is actually a teenage kid who's running on his school's track team and the guy in the is white hack and black backpack is actually his track coach just wanted your thoughts on that now i've said over and over again they'll come out with cover stories and they'll put forward a distraction away from the original redneck patsies that they were going to roll out they're going to have cover stories they're going to try to spin this

but my whole point is we put out all the suspicious groups with the backpacks and they've chosen to go with this suspiciously the one that he didn't have any focus on at all is the people who actually you know there is footage of them dropping the backpacks at these spots uh and pretty hard uh hard to get around evidence that they were the actual uh perpetrators weird weird that alex had all the pictures and showed all the angles mysteriously accept the correct one man that's just that's just impervious armor yep it's just impervious armor there's nothing you can do any evidence that you're wrong is a cover up part of the cover up it's just added into the churn because they wanted to fucking pin it on this white redneck guy and alex says this and man

these just making all of this up this is based on nothing that's why i said they were going to go with the rednecks but they went with the sawties whether they're real or not as a divert uh and then they probably had other backup rednecks in the area too that aren't in the photo but they're scared they're going over all the photos to see if we've got photos of the rednecks next to their handlers what and again i wouldn't want to be those rednecks right now poor guys you know they were like be part of a special program to help america and we want to be part of a drill just like seven seven with those Arabs i want to help america good billy you're gonna help them now are you ready i mean it's just so sick all right thank you god bless you this is all just in his head like

this is one of the things that this episode particularly in this stretch of time was like really laborious to get through yeah because alex is kind of being affected by the lack of information too yeah like he's able to spin the like uh you know the pretending that the new york post cover is the official photos that were released we were right all along right so much would throw me a parade all that stuff's all good and well but this is i mean it's a little stale like it deteriorates into constant just like him making stuff up about what must have happened and flights of fancy that he has about these guys being chosen as patsies and like it's just like he's suffering from the same problem that the mainstream media is because as creative as he is

his creativity has kind of hit a wall oh yeah oh yeah and that does make this a bit more of a slog to get through yeah but at the same time alex recognizes that like he's getting a lot of traffic off this and he knows that like this is the time to strike the iron is hot right now so he can't do anything but do all this now some stations don't care the next hour of overdrive only to go to info wars dot com audio screams or info wars dot com four slash listen and there's a free video feed up there we're going to continue this talk be sure to spread the word about all affiliates and support their local sponsors and become a sponsor and i don't know john harman was saying a whole parcel of new stations are wanting to sign up right now so people are getting

what's happening and better look at grandbabies and kids in the eyes and realize we don't beat these people we're going under soviet style occupation mixed in with some hitler mixed in with a little hitler just a dash of hitler just a dash hitler a lot of a lot of soviet propaganda a little dash hitler they're not going to use the chairman you know that alex embellish is just about everything but i don't think that this is necessarily a complete fiction like i bet he is getting some new stations wanting to sign up because of the increased stature yeah of this and it helps that it's free yeah this media blitz that he's kind of becoming a really hot item in people on the internet being interested in his information because it's all bullshit right

it's this absence this vacuum of real official information is making people lose their mind yeah and alex is capitalizing on that and it's really scary so alex jumps into this overdrive and it takes some calls some more calls we're gonna enter a period here where we get to see just how fucking stupid alex's listeners are i hate to say that i don't like to judge individuals as much as i judge alex but some of these people are profoundly dumb and i know that part of it is the training that alex gives them you know like he he doesn't expect much out of them he rewards stupid speculation um and so that behavior is reinforced and you get to see some of the fruits of that in his first one this caller suggests that we need vigilante posse to go around

and arrest cops no that's not good and my other point alex is that uh elio and all these people aren't the only people with power they have actually no power that any of the other constituents don't if you see people breaking the constitution if you see people breaking the law break your hands on them arrest somebody you know what i mean this is what i'm saying to all the people out there maybe what we need is woven horde to just good people arresting people breaking the law well i mean more and more if a cop is breaking the law you're supposed to be able to citizen arrest them but they'll shoot you i mean they're on such a power trip not all the cops a lot of cops are waking up that the globalists have over overplayed over the worst shops it's the opposite

of half baked they've over baked it you've got to really reach out and go come on break the trance and and with cops go treat me with respect stop doing what you're doing stop violating my rights and they arrest you for no reason you sue them i think alex's response to that is probably about as good as you can do on info wars but yeah that probably is i mean like yeah those cops that are way out of control obviously yeah reform is very needed but going and assaulting a cop and putting them under citizens arrest is absolutely the wrong tactical decision it's not going to do anybody any good no i don't think you're going to be able to grab even the most corrupt cop as a citizen even the most corrupt cop and take them to the police station and have all the other cops would

be like thanks for doing that for us thank you yeah we didn't have the courage to do it ourselves i i i think that like even if you have a roving band of good guys it's going to cause trouble what have we ever had a rope no band of good guys has ever been roving roving bands are usually bandits doesn't seem like there's a lot of historical precedent so you get another caller and this guy just is full of bullshit number one i wanted to say to your listeners that i've watched i've listened to you for over three years i have read probably 50 books as a result of listening to you i can tell your listeners out there that info wars is an extremely credible organization and the fact that you do things on such an evidence-based way of approaching the news and stuff i totally

agree with i'm an attorney so i take that very seriously and i appreciate what you do i don't know if that guy's an attorney he is absolutely not an attorney i have some questions about that but yeah i've read 50 alex hasn't referenced 50 books i've watched 50 movies he's referenced at least that many yeah yeah probably yeah i would buy that this is so evidence-based your approach to the news you just prove everything this is said but that's the perception that alex puts out and it's internalized by the audience they accept that he says he's read everything so yeah he has yeah would alex lie to you no he's a hero he's a hero for americana so this next caller um just i mean he's just saying bullshit and i was able to record wcvb it's a boston's abc owned and operated

affiliate abc five and one of their reporters i found this very interesting said that the head of fema which is craig fugatey was in boston oh no that's true they were all there they were all there just like they were all there for seven seven bombing yeah no that is confirmed yet that's confirmed so i'm not entirely sure that the fema director craig fugatey was in boston on april 15th but i can say for certain that deputy administrator of fema richard serino was i based this on a report that serino wrote called lessons learned from the boston marathon bombing i was there which was released on july 10th 2013 in the introduction to the report serino says quote i was in boston on that tragic day in april celebrating patriot's day in my hometown and i'm

here now not just as a fema deputy director but administrator excuse me but also as a bostonian and former paramedic patriot's day is a sizable holiday in boston he's from boston so he went home to celebrate that makes sense there's nothing in this report about fugate also being in boston when the attack happened i can find literally no indication that the actual director craig fugate was in boston at the time however i did find a conspiracy blog saying that the fact that richard serino was there is proof that the bombing was a fema false flag so i have to assume that that's what this caller is just fucking up with the details and he's really just talking about serino being there and again there's nothing suspicious about him being in boston this is just utter

shit these people are talking everybody knows that fema officials do not have any private lives whatsoever they were grown from a lab and so they don't have any hometowns other than uh i don't know wherever sad amphibious eyes are these days right so you know there's no way that there could be any rational explanation for a fema official being anywhere other than the fema headquarters where i assume they live in camps you also like you have to assume that you know i found this conspiracy blog about richard serino being there yeah and if fugate was also there you'd have to assume that that would be a part of the conspiracy theory that's on this blog and it's not even if they couldn't prove that he was there yeah why wouldn't they toss him in there why not because you've

got somebody who you can prove was there exactly there you go right so here in this next clip i think that we have what alex gives it's close to a mission statement uh for info wars and what they're doing right now um and it's it's fucked up uh so people need to get our articles on this out to everybody i mean this is a this is an info war going on right now folks over who could control this narrative we've caught them with their pants down but if we don't expose that they won't go down a god bless you good to hear from you it's about controlling the narrative and that's all good and well in your mind when you it's the same thing with steve when he's talking about i'm gonna commit treason but i think it's patriotism yeah alex is trying to control the narrative to drive traffic

to his website and increase sales but the narrative he's pushing is bullshit there's nothing behind any of this stuff all the things about the the pictures that he's found there's an oculus explanations for just about everything there's nothing suspicious except for what he's imagined he's not pushing a journalistic narrative he's not pushing an investigation narrative he's pushing his fantasies he's pushing his perceptions his uh storyline that he's come up with that validates the idea that the federal government is evil and out to crush white uh gun owning patriots yeah that's all he's doing so controlling the narrative for him is evil it's propaganda it's misleading people yeah i just is it man there's just it like is it just some fucking flaw within

our brains that is not going to be corrected like that like these guys just can spin fiction out of nothing and convince a large enough people to be to be dangerous to be really hurtful dangerous i monsters people i think a lot of it comes down to a very unique talent that alex has and granted it's not unique but there are not many people who could perform on the level that he does in terms of like he makes himself such a clown in order to be that like thing that seduces people in with the entertainment value and then they keep watching and his uh vague references to things that he never explains and never actually uh you know documents or proves is enough to be like oh he's on to something and then as we've seen in the aftermath of the bombing he's able to use real

world events and incorporate them really quickly into proving the narratives that he's laying out like if you were listening to all this and you were maybe think alex is entertaining and you're listening and watching like a lot of your suspicions uh might go away that he doesn't know what he's talking about because he's interacting with the real world in a way that he's presenting as reinforcing his worldview but it actually doesn't he that's part of his talent other people can't do that like other people just don't have those skills i mean i i guess contemporaries maybe not but i mean there's always one of these guys sure like these guys are like every i mean it seems like every generation has their own one of these assholes there's different permutations sure yeah

so it's it's just like it just continues on this vicious cycle of bullshit being disseminated by to be believed by enough people to turn bullshit into something that is real intangible to these people and we can fuck yeah it's tough it's pretty tough at the end of the day people who believe in reality uh get fucked over yeah it's it's it's hard um yeah i don't know what to tell you right but i do know this it turns out that you know how you have iq your intelligence quotient i don't you know so people have this uh this iq thing right i know and did you do they did you know that you can actually will your iq to rise i mean we have them and lying about the reading we have these bastards and uh praise god i mean it shows commitment if you are committed and you

study and you focus and you work these are men too that's why they're so scared of us it's why they put poison in our water to dumb us down well once you're conscious of what they've done to us you just got up more in your brain i mean if you tell yourself to boost your iq it'll boost in a crisis humanity needs to go out of this slug like slug like trance and take action who we go so you just raise your iq if you want to just just focus do you feel smarter yeah oh okay cool how it works you can also accept jesus christ into your heart that raises your theory that is also raises your iq absolutely does he know what iq is or how to measure it no but i imagine he probably doesn't think much of his audience right he probably thinks a lot of them are probably pretty stupid right

and thinks that they want to be smarter so appeal to that idea you can will yourself to be smarter if you commit to this info war see what i'm saying that's that's some ecartoli right there that's snake oil shit so yeah that's ecartoli one of the things that makes my iq go up is whenever i find alex lyon about something i raise a point i have given myself little points have you no you gotta get you gotta keep track of them on the whiteboard right over there well whatever the case here my iq is about to rise by one tj quote they are on record in fact tell my writers right now look this up because i heard it on the news they were searching bags at the start and finish line why then did they let 20 people they're more in with giant black backpacks i mean this is so

incredibly obvious how did the bombs get in when everybody was being searched again inside job anybody anybody alex is completely lying about bags being checked according to the 130 page after action report of the boston marathon bombing produced in partnership by all manner of massachusetts law enforcement and public health organizations bags were not being checked from page uh 79 that report in a section titled quote areas needing improvement they discuss security limitations quote the areas surrounding the finish line in boston and the starting line in hopkinton were uh which are deemed to be higher risk than other public viewing areas are screened for the presence of contaminants and devices several times during the day and are patrolled by law enforcement personnel however

these areas are open to the public are heavily populated and no screening of persons or baggage is conducted the report itself wrestles with how security protocols could be put in place that wouldn't completely destroy the marathon quote because the boston marathon is a large public family event there needs to be an appropriate balance between security protocols and the of the event ultimately it gives some suggestions like prohibiting bags in certain places or increased police presence but it stresses a second time quote these protocols should not be so intrusive as to change the feeling of the event alex is just making up the idea that all bags were screened in order to reinforce his conspiracy that if someone had a bomb in

a backpack there the cops would have to know and have to have let them in with it this is absolutely not true he is lying to as he has put it control the narrative that's all this is dan how long is a marathon uh 26 something miles 26.2 miles yeah yeah so can you check every bag along and even then even if you're talking about targeted near the finish line you can walk it that's that's such fuck it's and it's just like the tsa where it's like here's and the even their report at least admits that there needs to be a balance between those instead of a giant dumb overreaction that turns into fucking theater in order to make sure all of us feel like we're being watched even though it doesn't actually do anything yeah ah so people are stupid yeah so in this next clip

i think alex is recognizing that he's gotten about as far as he can go with the information that he has available to him like all of the conspiracies he's spun so far the staring at random photos from 4chan he's gotten about as much mileage as he can so what he needs the audience to do is go find local footage from the day and come up with things for him to talk about great everyone needs to go to the two different tv feeds that are online of that day and watch them with a note and pad and then call them to show us email the link or if you have the capability grab it put it on youtube and and listen we're gonna destroy them they're smoking guns there's probably the army handing the guys the bombs probably uh you know i mean there's probably video of the guys

you know detonating it i mean you know we've got them we we already know they did a false flag and they just think you're too lazy and too stupid to do it so i mean they probably the enemy defeat the enemy defeat the enemy by going and finding maybe bad reporting in the immediate aftermath like people reporting things capriciously that then i can turn into uh conspiracies to prove my uh points i would that's all he's doing that's that's literally all he's doing guys go edit more tv cartoons together to make me look right all the time please fucked up fucked up that's just not okay right no that's just not okay that's like barns allowing people to vote on what cases he takes are you like there's just something very wrong with that i mean the harsher reality

behind that is that barns isn't doing that no that's an appearance of control he's trying to get people to subscribe to his law center for it's probably not legal it might not be i'm not sure no it's at least in ethical yeah as is what alex does next and that is he turns over the show to jacari jackson and david night who host for a while um and alex uh you know he knows that the press conference at the fbi is holding is coming up and so he teases that a little bit all right ladies and gentlemen we're gonna come back with jacari jackson and david night and your phone calls and some other breaking news and then more phone calls and then the press conference with obama in an hour and a half or the fbi with their new patsy we're on the mark they got their new patsy

they got their new patsy he's already like done moving on he's done the work and he has preemptively discredited whatever they come out with uh at that fbi conference that's that's so funny he doesn't even that he doesn't need even need to talk about whether or not his patsy is where the right ones or anything like that doesn't matter here are their new patsy yeah absolutely that's it done and normally you know what i would do is david night jacari jackson are taken over click right but that press conference is coming up while the show is still going to be going yeah and i know because i live in 2019 that that press conference is a crucially important piece of this and i needed to see what the immediate reaction would be on info wars of the suspect photos being released

sure and so i decided to keep listening while david night and jacari jackson host and something that's very interesting is that alex uh doesn't really leave the studio see now that's kind of what i suspected was going to happen i i honestly think that he might be drinking like it might be a 2013 drunk out okay because he cannot stop barging into the studio in interrupting them while they're trying to do their show like here uh he's just jacari is trying to talk about uh janet depolitano and alex is just yelling in the studio look how arrogant she is they're scared man that's a confidence game hey listen you witch pig we know what you did excuse me i'm apologize about yelling here that's okay got any hearing any hearing left i love how we just leave these

vitamins over here like when we're doing the shot there's like this big pile of vitamins all right i'm getting out of here i'm getting out of here no you're not oh he's drunk he's not getting out of there either i love how he keeps coming back i love how we leave these piles of vitamins around is that trying to buzz market young japanese alex man hmm jesus so they uh because they're not great at this point no david night and jacari jackson are not super i mean david night's never good and jacari left before he ever got too much exposure on the actual alex show he's mostly on the nightly news but they're not good they're so they take a lot of calls and one thing i will say to their credit they move along with the callers yeah like whereas alex will just like

take a caller the caller will say something for like two minutes then alex will rant for 10 and be like sorry no time no time for our call sure sure sure they at least are like all right make your point we'll say something and then next caller okay like it's actually how a call-in show is supposed to go right right right right right unfortunately according to your twisted vision unfortunately they're still info wars callers so they're still very stupid sure also i wanted to let everybody know that you know you got to understand that alex jones doesn't just pull all the stuff from his rear end i mean he gives you the tools he gives you all the evidence you need a lot of these other plate a lot of these other you know media sources they don't do that they don't

give you the sources so before you start arguing that you know alex is uh a shell he's a you know this and that he's a misinformation you know agent idiot he provides everything there you just need to look into it and i just want to say i appreciate and uh love you guys so love you guys so stupid even in 2013 every fucking word was hyperlinked to a source yeah you know every if you go to if you read any article on guardian 50 words are hyperlinked to the source that proves the reason that there are a lot every fucking one yeah so like that guy's just stupid he thinks alex proves everything that he says bullshit absolutely not true but this next caller is stupid in a way that i actually find repulsive i was calling about the guy you have a picture of that's carrying the the radiation

detector yes sir yeah he went on wolf blitzer and his name is dr david king if you go to uh let's see here the situation room for yesterday about 635 eastern time he was on there with him and uh he claims that he left the race before the explosion situation repeat repeat how we can find that again situation room with wolf blitzer with wolf blitzer and type in dr david so as always alex's callers are a showcase of stupidity alex has trained his audience to trust their guts and just make connections between any two thing they might two things they might think are related so when they call in that's all they have to operate on it's tremendously dangerous since alex doesn't really have a high standard for what information he'll just repeat that you've

seen these things snowball on our show before in this case this caller is completely wrong dr david king was a person who was on wolf blitzer but he's not the person in alex's photo holding a radiation meter who was a member of the civil support team which alex has no idea about nor does anybody else who has any interaction with info wars of course not the story this caller is trying to pitch is a disgrace to dr king and he should be ashamed of himself for saying something like this on a nationally syndicated show with literally no evidence king's wife was an avid runner and she had previously run in the boston marathon one year he went along to watch at the finish line and he saw the looks of accomplishment in glee in people's faces as they crossed the

line and he just loved it to quote king quote they looked like they belonged on a weedy's box every last one of them so he decided to do it himself and chase that feeling in 2013 he ran the marathon and finished about an hour before the bombs went off he lingered a while to watch other runners complete their race and see the excitement and exuberance in their face and then he left on his way home news broke about the bombs and he immediately headed for massachusetts general hospital he did that because he's a trauma surgeon this man had just finished running a marathon and he selflessly went immediately to try and help victims of the attack i don't know everything about dr david king but his actions in the aftermath of the boston bombing are the

sorts of things you can easily describe his acts of every man heroism when he could have easily just rationalized going home to shower or saying i literally just ran a marathon sure or just say like there's other doctors someone else will help he could have done that he didn't he jumped right in and saved people's lives this caller has randomly decided that he's the person in one of alex's pictures because of a slight physical similarity and he's trying to turn king's story of heading right back you know to mass general into a lie because the photos prove that he was there at the scene of the bombs fuck this caller and fuck him again for choosing to spout this shit on the only news outlet likely just to repeat the claim without looking into it without even

knowing what they're doing they're trying to turn a hero into a villain trying to rob a person of their noble act all in the name of making their conspiracy sound more plausible this is detestable behavior and i cannot stress that enough all of these people should be deeply ashamed of themselves this caller should still feel bad about this to this day and yet they never will be they don't even give a fuck but that's a feature for them that's a feature the feature of them is always turning the people who exercise empathy initiative and heroism into villains because what they are is people who won't and don't you know like the way they treated uh when we when you went through the story of uh soros's dad and all of his acts of heroism and then and then you see what they're

doing to him and you're like that's part of the goal yeah if people are heroes then you want to follow those guys well it's it's yeah it's that uh dynamic or they turn heroes into props yeah uh if it suits the narrative that they want to to push they have to control the narrative and a hero is bad control that narrative baby heroes are bad for the narrative um so i just really fucking hate stuff like that it just it drives me up a wall like david king did exactly what you would applaud someone doing um you would give somebody a fucking award for doing that shit and here he's being painted as a conspirator in a plot to bomb civilians so anyway another stupid caller calls in my cousin just called me less than an hour ago there has been a bomb threat at cal state los

angeles cal state los angeles can we get on that guy please they are they're they're evacuating the school they've never done this in my four years there's been never been this big my cousin called me to tell me that they're closing down the school because of a bomb threat you know what i i want to take that back that's not totally fair this caller isn't as stupid as all the others because that is a real thing right there was a bomb threat at cal state on april 18 right right right but don't call them to enforce about this this has nothing to do with the boston bombing it was almost certainly the result of a prank call phoning in a fake bomb threat which you know that's just something that campus administrations can't ignore especially at the days after the boston bombing

you know what jordan something people probably don't want to think about is that there are a fuck ton of people who call in bomb threats to schools all the time in 2016 the educators school safety network does study on the phenomenon it's really scary to think about obviously almost all of them are fake threats but it's still such a horrible sort of prank for a person to pull and to imagine that so many people choose to do it makes me feel real bad about humanity they found that in the 2015 2016 school year there were 1267 bomb threats made to us schools there were 206 in january 2016 alone which comes out to about 10 per school day that's a reality that school administrators around the country just have to live with and deal with we end up hearing about

almost none of these and if we do it's a passing news story filling a slot in like local news programming this case in cal state is only something that makes headlines because it happened after the boston bombing and people were eating up any kind of bomb related news wondering if there's a connection had the suspects made it all the way across the country where their copycats out there yeah my heart goes out to the students at cal state that had to go through this scare like that obviously is not something you want to have to experience but this story being introduced into alex's show can only do harm there's no reason for this to be brought up i just i just can't get over this has never happened in all four years i've been here great dude it's still slightly

relevant i get i get that but all four years of my the reason i also feel a little bit bad about calling him stupid he's a college kid who like his experience in the real world isn't as robust as right no no his brain hasn't finished developing i understand that and i understand that the outsized importance four years to a college kid uh means compared to somebody who is basically his whole adult life yeah yeah yeah pretty much but at the same time man if you are in college and you have been there for four years you should at least have learned by now that four years is not that big of a measure of time you would hope yeah and also he is still stupid because he decided to call into info so that's all we're strike two i tentatively i'm still calling

him stupid here's another dumb fuck caller all right yes sir i just have one question about boston sure if we had all these policemen there are no soldiers there how many of them were hit by scrap but when these things went off i do not know the answer to that question were they wanting to get out of the way i don't know because we've heard the reports that were well rob do it's given the story about his uh brother-in-law was in the army i believe he's a jogger in the army and he was pulled out of the race uh his brother-in-law before the bombs went off so as far as i know i'm not saying there haven't been but i've not heard any stories of police or military being hit by the shrapnel have you david i know that he's asking uh that question to david night but i

figure i might be better equipped to field it so i'm gonna take this go for it generally speaking it's the practice of journalists not to name all of the people who are injured in a situation like this to protect their privacy a number of folks made the choice to be identified and that's their decision and it's no different for a police officer i would assume that uh they would have the choice to discuss their injury if they want to but i'd also assume they might be less likely to sense it could possibly feel like an attempt to make the story about themselves and maybe police officers would be more likely to not want that kind of attention yeah i don't know it's very difficult to trace down the identities of all the people who are injured in the bombing

i think that's a good thing leave these people the fuck alone they've been through enough all that being said i can still tell this twangmouth caller that he's a fucking idiot a usa today's story from april 15th the day of the bombing literally says quote bloodied spectators were carried to a medical tent for runners at least one police officer was hurt so there we go we got an injured cop buddy yeah but the globalists always have to injure one cop so it throws you off the scent right now what does showing that one cop was hurt in the bombing somehow make your paranoid delusions that the globalists pulled all their agents out so they wouldn't get hurt go away of course it doesn't these aren't sincere questions their conspiracy

bullshit pretending to be curiosity this asshole doesn't want to know if any cops got injured he wants to inject the idea that none were to reinforce the idea that there was for knowledge and this is a false flag yeah that's why jacari immediately starts talking about rob do's brother because that's the info wars talking point that matches up with this conspiracy bullet point meanwhile at least one cop did get hurt it was reported three days prior to them being on air here so they have every reason to know that and they still haven't even proved shit about rob do's brother he might have actually been dehydrated for all we know this all amounts to nothing and get this even if jacari or david knew that this usa today article exists that says one cop was injured

it's in their best interest to not know that oh yeah because don't don't ask questions you don't want to actually know the answer to right yeah right it actually is advantageous to as an info reporter to not know a lot do not learn anything because if you do if you have read this article this twang mouth idiot calls in and he's like do we know if any cops got hurt like yeah actually he was reported right after the bombing that there was a cop who was injured where do you go then it's a dead end it's a propaganda dead end yeah so you know you intentionally stay blissfully naive of any real information and it allows you to lie right being a journalist is disqualifying to try and get a job as a journalist at info wars mm-hmm i i suppose maybe like a i don't know

short fiction writer would be better suited for sure i think that'd be great jacari wrote that comic book after he left yeah get a nice little get a nice little new yorker byline i don't think they can i think so so at this point alex barges in to the studio again because he wants to laugh about how the press conference is coming up of course we will provide you with accurate information as it becomes available i look forward to that thank you and you'll say it on air and there it is you saw miss napolitano right there we will provide you sir don't get your sources anywhere else we will provide you what's that information the press conference is coming up in 20 minutes i'll say alex seems very excited about this press conference and we will be giving you

live coverage on that i do think he's probably drunk oh yeah so we get back to stupid callers now jesus here's another stupid ass caller um just quick question um i don't know if you guys have to look at youtube um about charlie chaplin appreciate you guys i'm sorry i can't hear you can you get a little closer to your phone oh yeah um charlie charlie chaplin um i don't know if you guys uh watched his video on youtube uh message to the humanity are you talking about the original charlie chaplin or is this somebody yeah i mean i i'm not really too sure for somebody to look at somebody original but there's a video on youtube message to humanity and it's i mean it's a pretty good video i don't know if you guys have to look at it or maybe someone else has no i haven't seen

what's the video about uh it's just uh talking about um how he doesn't want to be a dictator and uh he wants people to wake up from no that's about a three minute thirty second clip okay that's insane is he literally pulling a quote a little clip from charlie chaplains charlie chaplin's the dictator the great dictator yeah he didn't someone else didn't put some music behind it oh my god but this caller is informing david and chicari about a hot video on youtube which that you've already deduced is just a little clip from charlie chaplin's great dictator that fucking movie came out in 1940 uh and it also was nominated for four oscars that year it was huge it's a good movie that video gets passed around a lot and there's no reason for let's say uh david

and chicari not to be able to figure it out when he says he it's about how he doesn't want to be a dictator yeah yeah it's like oh that's from the great dictator uh but look dude a lot of people forget they tend to forget that that clip comes from a full length movie and that the speech being given uh it's the character is a jewish man pretending to be a character who's clearly hitler yeah like it's not hitler it's not subtle right it is not subtle but that clip doesn't uh take into account that that's not actually the character of hitler right it's a guy pretending right anyway that movie is one of the most enduring pieces of comedic satire of fascism and authoritarian rulers released in the fucking middle of world war two and it's pretty amazing that neither jacari

or david really seemed to register with the callers talking about it's also pretty amazing that this caller doesn't know who chaplin is and seems unclear about whether or not he was watching something that might be new these callers are so fucking stupid i know i know i mean i don't i don't want to be i'm not going to be too much of a dick to this kid for not knowing about the dictator i get that but that's like that's like dragging on people on twitter who are like oh man it's cool that this paul mccartney guy is going to be famous now because of uh kanye or something like that i still think it's okay to make fun of that i i agree it's okay to make fun of it but it's like that's fucking stupid you're just you're just learn more you know you know what you're you're

you're mocking though and when you do that you're mocking a lack of interest this person is calling into info wars to talk about this hot new charlie chaplin video which he saw on the internet yes finding out who charlie chaplin is is one click away he really didn't do that instead he saw the video and was like hey y'all heard a charlie chaplin to call it for wars about it jesus that is worth mocking that is bad that impulse is worth mocking i know i want to be i want to be kinder to because i i don't mind i'm running thin on patience yeah but also when i sit back and think about it i can kind of understand how like jacarian david who are people who work for a fascist leaning propaganda outlet probably wouldn't be too into exploring the world of fascism satire yeah so it makes sense

that they might not know about i could get them in real trouble david night would rather watch song of the south again yeah go back to the the classics those were the good old days so now another stupid caller how you doing oh very well good um i was calling in to make sure people were informed of the act of 1871 which um turned the united states into a corporation two constitutions um now are in place the organic constitution which has a hard constitution which doesn't you said the act of 1871 yes sir okay go ahead there's only one act that year uh-huh it was a single act to play that year this uh i've been saying that these callers are stupid that this one exceeds even my expectations that one that go to fucking town on that one dan

i really don't have time to get into the ins and outs of this theory but basically it's sovereign citizenship yeah tracing back to capitalize letters that sort of bullshit i honestly don't even care about this like if you look into it at all you just end up on dumb fuck blogs and message boards with people talking about how sneaky the Rothschilds are yeah so yeah just come on the act of 1871 just created the district of columbia they didn't create a new constitution for the us in fact the district of columbia was created the way it was specifically because of article one section eight of the constitution and by that i mean the real constitution not the corporate one those sneaky jews forced on us which is what this theory is all about yeah i know it's i just it

it sucks and it makes so much sense that sovereign citizens are both the dumbest and most violent like those two have to uh it's unfortunate yeah it's unfortunate those two are like that venn diagram of like oh that's the dead center mm-hmm well so we get to the press conference okay and it's pretty short but it was designed to be pretty short yeah well it was just announcing these uh images and they're gonna take a few questions it was not meant to be a half hour or anything um and so here is the immediate response uh from david and chicari jackson right after the press conference ends so you heard the fbi agents say these are the only images that you need to focus on these two guys out of everybody in the crowd and don't get me wrong i'm

sure the fbi is competent and you know definitely looking into the situation but as dan pointed out we have other images on info wars dot com there are images on other sites that may not be on info wars dot com of other people that may be uh included in the uh in the in the bombing when he said dan pointed out he's not talking about me no he's not he's talking about dan badandi yeah as i was listening to that press conference i could already tell how he was gonna land from like a spin perspective richard delores of the boston fbi whose name i'm pretty sure i'm still mispronouncing uh but maybe less so than what i thought it was desolorious oh that's not good anyway he takes the podium and explains that they've conducted a very intense investigation and are

confident that they have pictures of the correct suspects this assessment is based on photographic evidence of one suspect placing his backpack at the precise location of the site of the second explosion and other footage of the two suspects walking together and you know obviously they wouldn't have released pictures sooner because that would have uh if they didn't know pretty certainly that they were the right people yeah yeah get people killed yeah yeah in his prepared remarks he asks for the public's help in identifying the two people in these pictures but also says that other pictures people are circulating are not relevant and focusing on them doesn't help them get to the bottom of the case i strongly suspect that uh that his comment was not so much addressed

that the dum-dums on the internet and info wars as much as it was a polite fuck you to the new york post for their cover image with two incorrect uh uh suspects yeah very much so but i knew as soon as it came out of his mouth that the real at the spin was going to be that the man doesn't want you looking at these forbidden images that tell you the true story and i almost gasped when dan badandi yelled about info wars having other pictures in the background at that press conference he was there yelling at the fbi press conference i should have realized you know i really should have been yeah of course that's where he that's the only place he could be in that i had forgotten that he was in boston of course yeah i'm completely immersed in this stuff and yet even for me it was

shocking to hear him there interacting with and interfering with the really important real world moment you know it's one thing for alex to manipulate and lie to everyone about highly emotional and sensitive things but i was thinking about this moment and what dan badandi is doing as an official info wars employee could be described as trying to disrupt a federal investigation you know it was an impotent effort it's not like there's really anything that he could do with this but his intention is to be a public nuisance and he's hoping to derail the fbi's investigation into these two suspects he could pretend like he's doing it because he knows the real truth about the case but the intention is the same his efforts are explicitly directed at creating

publicity stunts to get attention off the real suspects and that's fucked up i don't know if that's a crime but it feels like it borders on obstruction it um i don't even i don't know how much it borders it's hard to say i mean yeah it's real fucked up yeah and you look at it i suppose the only thing with he they would have to know that they weren't the real suspects which they do so i think it is obstruction of justice yeah yeah i don't i don't i don't know it just when you look at it through that prism these actions seem a lot worse yeah so alex now barges into the studio and uh he yells about how they're they're desperate in their cover-up i imagine he tears his shirt open and he's fucking mad as well love all right now um once again i just gotta say i'm gonna cover this

on the nightly news this is a desperate cover-up you're just putting rabbit trails out left and right we've got the people we've got the patsy the redneck day we're gonna burn that they pulled the military up to grab out of the courthouse we've got them with the sawties everything they are shut down man they are in disarray right now so the good news is they're not blaming us right now for this that is uh and again they just want to like just keep throwing distractions out and say please don't look at any other photos that are out there i call wars dot com jan napolitano is in congress do not look at drudge who's carrying our stuff we are engaging the globalist at point mic range right now yep thank you alex all right so alex you're doing the show tonight correct uh

yeah yeah okay all right there you go alex jones seven p.m central info wars nightly news alex reneg's on that uh that booking a little bit later it says jacar you're hosting tonight yeah yeah that's a lot of work alex leaves and then about like a minute two minutes a little bit later he barges back in just watch the uh the senator uh question um napolitano yeah uh you know hey guys keep going get madonna you guys call her madonna okay all right guys in front of you guys on him okay uh adam just just hang on we gotta get madonna stay right there adam tell us when you uh we have dan on the line so we have dan madonna he was at the press conference if you didn't see him you definitely heard him by the way the viewers we're overwhelmed we can't upload all this to youtube listeners you

clip all this out put the juicy clips on youtube we'll put them on info wars dot com when everybody's health this is war room baby yep info wars is shutting their ass down all right there's dan madonna all right dad oh this is a mess wow yeah this is a mess that is hey guys i can't be bothered to cut clips i don't i don't what don't you have a staff what's going on wow i need all of you to do my work for me and then i'll re-post it that's that's just crazy so they get to talking to dan badandi and his big thing is that he was mobbed at the press conference basically yeah okay dan so you start asking your questions now were you surrounded were you mobbed by the fbi guys oh yeah come right up to me like a bunch of stopovers i told me i'm not afraid of

criminals so about how many this is taking you to skin attack this this case yeah dan about how many people do you think their word that surrounded you uh like you said everybody up to the front i mean you should be able to see it on uh the news uh just to extend you at the time and uh that just it's crazy over here i mean we've got cops doing an output over here i got two guys everybody video came out the whole time and um hopefully from the station we out of boston hopefully i can make it safely out of boston yeah he's yeah he's like reporting like he's in a fucking war zone and not just at a very calm press conference that the only intensity of it really was the gravity of the situation yeah yeah himself yeah yeah those are the only thing and

like obviously i don't think that anyone cares about his bullshit no like we have these other pictures at info wars dot com that's what he was yelling during his question i don't think they care like i don't think the fbi gives a shit if people are looking at these pictures yeah like speculating about them online they care about the tip line they care about the actual investigation that they're carrying out and they know that like if people are trying to give them tips about the cst guys yeah it's a waste of fucking time and they they're not interested in that that's a distraction but if you know who these two suspects are we need your help with that we are we haven't identified them um so i think that they're easily taking that and misrepresenting it as

the media and the fbi and the the dhs don't want you looking at our shit yeah whereas they don't care they leave them alone about that shit yeah they don't care yeah it is it is one of those situations where those press conferences and uh all the fucking like we've talked about the names for shit uh that the un has and all that stuff they need a consultant to be like oh here's the language that if you use this they're going to twist it against you like here's here's what you want to say all right don't focus on the other photographs all right i understand why you would want to put it that way yeah because i hear words and they make sense to me right but what you need to say is we would like tips on these people right don't don't use the negative reinforcement whatsoever

otherwise they'll be like or say uh have fun with your piddly bullshit yeah exactly yes exactly be dismissive and insulting to uh enjoy yeah we would love that but just don't call uh why don't you go read articles from days ago explaining who those dudes are that you're so suspicious of menavy seals and shit hey you're the one always arguing that they need to have a certain level of professionalism and i need a separate yellow obvious i understand that i'm not i'm not seriously suggesting this i'm talking about maybe what would be fun to see in a movie yes as opposed to what would function in the real world right right right right like because i would rather this uh fbi guy just uh give him the dx suck it yeah yeah yeah hey why don't you go fuck yourself asshole

but obviously that isn't isn't sustainable in the real world no probably not um so bedondi here now gets into talking about how he destroyed that press conference with truth um and then alex suggests a dangerous uh plan of action oh absolutely i showed him the photographs and then notice right when i presented the photographs notice how the clown in back of me put up this clipboard to block my photographs from the camera really and they didn't want these photos to be shown they shut the entire press conference about because i revealed i exposed the truth of what's going on okay dan can you think of anybody in particular did you notice any particular affiliate or anybody to devastating victory devastating everybody to join him at the next press conference

all real media converge on boston defeat the terrorist all right alex he's trying to get people to go to boston to disrupt and harass people yep this is exactly the same sort of behavior he's being sued about for sandy hook stuff and you see it's very clearly in his repertoire of actions yeah everyone oh quote unquote real media needs to converge on boston and defeat the terrorists yeah god damn cut to that backfiring and people taking him literally and dan bedondi getting wrecked and alex i have to pretend that dan bedondi never worked for him oh he's alex is celebrating him like a returning hero on this episode i'm so glad i hired you yeah so alex gets into uh they you know like that white patsy like it's obviously they're not going with

him he's probably already dead they don't want the white redneck patsies they probably already executed out there he does he don't want these navy seals they are scared i'm telling you folks you get these articles out that are info wars dot com this is coffin nails to the tyranny go ahead dan and if you notice on the tv alex when i was doing this the looks at these criminal spaces they could they jump off that stage like oh my god please just got exposed to the world they didn't um and they're trying to present this idea that like you know they're so scared of him coming in with this yeah these i think they're disgusted i think it's more like yelling stupid shit he's being super disruptive i don't know how you react to that in a professional manner

other than exactly what people did like they're asking like he's yelling is this a false flag and the answer no next question yeah i like you just try and accommodate as best as you can but also feel like sickened that someone is acting like this right like because everybody who's engaged with the real world understands that there's a tragedy and there's people on the loose that these people are working really hard to try and find right now you have someone just uh making a show out of it um it's disgusting it's it's counter to the interests of the community quite frankly damn it that's that's such a good distillation of our president so they try and go back to dan badandi they finish the talking to him and then they realize

that he's still on the line and so they try to go back to him and here is where we get a cameo very unexpected cameo from someone richard belzer okay i'm sorry uh rob hang right there we have dan badandi back dan go ahead hello dan can you hear me i can't hear him yeah dan are you there yeah i'm sorry this is dan's wife oh oh okay this you want to talk to us that was kelly that was alice's ex-wife now and they are months away from a divorce and you can kind of hear it in her voice she does not seem happy at all uh i do not know what's going on there in that dynamic but that was fucked up how so probably telling alex to calm down his bullshit yeah that's amazing i wonder

that's me right on the other line yes so they accidentally clicked over to the wrong line so she was talking to alex on the work phone yes and they clicked over to her yeah that's the only way that that could have happened yeah she called into info was to probably be i don't know what but she does not sound happy there no that's the only time i think i've ever heard her on the show yeah is popping in accidentally this is alex's wife you're on the wrong line it doesn't even sound that like uh that what you're sounding that's annoyed yeah she seems mad yeah well that's possible there's a tone of i don't want to talk to you there is a tone of a bit like this means alex put me on fucking hold doesn't it yeah must must be yeah doesn't seem good nope so they continue encouraging

people to go to boston and at this point alex gets uh a very celebratory about a particular thing go to boston right now if you're listening yes if you get out of your basement that get away from your computer and go to boston and start getting in the face of people and starting to ask people questions yeah by the way info wars is getting double the traffic it's ever gotten we broke the record a few days ago now it's double that right now it's smoke is coming out of it the servers and fire and and Watson just went up the deal of fbi ignores ignores men with backpacks but that's not even the issue that's a great headline by Watson working over the around the clock it's like midnight where he's at yeah it's even worse than that this is the fbi never mind all the real suspects

because it's their people we have them hey don't those are civil uh support team members that are very easily explained the fbi knows who they are they're not ignoring the real suspects you're just full of shit chasing fantasies and uh it works alex is recognizing how fucking lucrative this is yeah and what he's doing is maybe not illegal why don't we do this more yep it's crazy you could see you could see the glee that he's expressing about like our traffic this servers are smoking right so many people are coming in we need to do google bombs to get false flag out there so people will be led to the side oh my god it's all happening yeah i think you should also i've i also should have added into the alex's ex-wife uh tone of voice is that she was talking

to a clearly drunk alex as well most likely drunk yeah yeah very very likely drunk alex so i would describe this next clip as self parity because it begins with david and jacari trying to express how sincere the interests of info wars are like they're into the truth right sure and then alex immediately invalidates that we're more interested in the truth than we are about position by the way dan you getting info wars dot com out on every network i said double the traffic that was earlier the report it's like 50 times the traffic we're getting a million visitors every couple minutes right now are you serious no no no it's a hundred thousand k new people every 60 seconds wow the it guys have never this is probably like the number one website in the world just during this window

wow it is it is it is 100 000 k new joining who's already on it this isn't hits these are visitors every minute wow we're watching the new order burn down david night says we are more interested in truth than position than immediately alex barges in bragging about how many hits they're getting that's two we're the number one new site in the world that's that's two what we're more interested in is the truth hey everybody we're getting so many people we're gonna put a counter up on the board all right there's one there's two there's three there's four it's Jesus Christ that's too bad it's parody it's self-parody bad so they uh go to the calls uh and want to get want to get some listeners takes on what the press conference you know what they're feeling about it was

and uh this first guy uh has a uh shit take on it and i also wanted to say that you know to me this whole news conference was about one thing it wasn't about them saying you know we're investigating this was a direct shot at alex johnson info wars dot com because you know that the students but then the mentioned info wars they immediately shut them down the thing about we're not going to have anybody yet looking nobody should look at any other photos why because yesterday everything else had out about the photos of the fields out of the center off i really believe that's the main reason they put this out yeah i mean the you know the this whole press conference really wasn't about getting these suspects photos i it was an attack on info wars

yeah this is parasitic levels of narcissism like it's crazy these people are narcissistic for alex yeah on alex's behalf imagining that this entire city all the fbi all of the people trying to solve this uh this crime no no no no no they're really just trying to discredit alex yeah fucking hell man that is that is such a way to inflate your own self-importance is by hitching your wagon to somebody who you think is the most important like that's such narcissism by proxy yeah yeah that's fucked up so here's another stupid ass caller now here's the thing the fbi trying to take control of the narrative uh look all you have to do is call them and jail at them tell them what are you doing trying to control this narrative and trying to tell me that my eyes

see i am the real homeland security so are you and so everybody else out there they don't control anything and i'm so sick of them trying to control the narrative yeah we can solve this we can solve this he said control the narrative three times somebody lock that man inside his house and don't let him outside he probably doesn't get out that much that's probably true so now alex barges into studio because he's going to try and bully leon macadoo into coming on air because leon has cracked the case and figured out why these two the photos of the suspects can't be the real suspects she's cracked the case leon's got it leon's got it covered all right it's more looking about the sandy hook which is a false hello hold okay i'm sorry let's get leon macadoo in here leon come on

no leon you can't in here make your point gray backpack folks she's right it's not black it's gray go ahead and tell people it's a gray black backpack right i mean did she get a random applause oh we're here i saw here you can look at that i's got a gray backpack those were black backpacks so so this rabbit trail doesn't even fit the script and we have some new information there no no no no no this is warren hey we want to get a seat to come in here in there i don't know hold on now hold on i'm gonna say this because i've been telling her this all weekend and david you can attest this i told leon if you don't come in here and just briefly do you know just a quick report or just say something alxione is going to find you

in the hall drag you in here and make you get on here did i not i've been saying that all week hold on let's get her chair now you see now now you're in it this is leon macadoo one of our new reporters here in the info war she will be joining us welcome aboard leon so the problem with leon's thinking here is that there was only one picture that was made public of an exploded backpack and it did appear to be a darker most likely black backpack when the fbi released images of the suspects who we would soon come to know is tamerlan and joker sarnev it appeared that the bag that joker was wearing um was a lighter in color possibly gray at no point had it been established that the picture uh the picture it exploded backpack was jokars uh nor

had it ever been established that the brothers were carrying identical bags uh the photograph bag could easily have been the one tamerlan was carrying and joker could have been uh had a lighter bag there's literally no contradiction here but because info wars is so insistent on coming up uh coming out with spin uh and as they keep saying controlling the narrative anything that they think can be used to plant doubt is worth reporting beyond that one still photograph of a post explosion backpack is not enough to conduct a forensic investigation on alex and his crew have no idea what effect the explosion could have had on the uh on the color of the backpack which isn't to say that i definitely think that it could have turned a gray backpack black uh just

that they have no goddamn idea what they're talking about this isn't the behavior of journalists this is more what you'd expect to hear from idiots smoking weed trying to blow each other's minds sensational and intriguing if you're slightly impaired but utterly without substance yeah poor first showing lian really sucks that your first appearance on the show is spouting half cooked bullshit to help alex profit off lying about a national tragedy unlike these other people in the show i know what lian was doing before she joined info wars i'm certain that this is just a gig for her i know that she used to be a new age hippie blogging about quote being deeply drawn to reconnect with source as the mayan calendar ended in 2012 which is shockingly close to when she won

alex's find a reporter contest i know that she'd entered another tv hosting contest the cw austin star in 2011 and she'd been on a tv show prior to that called the last resorts i'm willing to believe that she may not have known what she was getting into when she started at info wars but if you're a bohemian free spirit out there practicing tarot one day and the next uh you know you're doing this shit and not immediately quitting when you see alex behaving how he has on air since the bombing i guess all i can say is i fucking hope that job paid super well because you're doing this and you are you don't believe this nope this is an act man i feel bad i feel bad maybe not for her later right but here on in april 2013 if you're just joining in

bye yeah i mean you immediately invalidate any empathy i have for you by like ha ha gray backpack right and i know that alex is forcing her on air and she'd rather not but still go fuck yourself yeah i remember my family had a blue minivan and then we left and when we came back there was this uh just pile of black ash and so we assumed that the minivan had been stolen of course it definitely wasn't on fire makes sense it because our minivan was blue dan right it was a blue minivan it wasn't a gray one made of ash right duh it makes sense um and i would feel just as bad about uh you know or mad and directed this way at like any of these people if i knew like let's say if i knew that right before rob do joined info wars he was out there writing about crystals yeah or if he was like

a left-wing activist right something like that if i knew those elements of these people's prior lives i would be just as insist that that like you are acting you're doing this causing the damage that you're doing and spreading this propaganda and you don't even believe in it i'm not sure which is worse you know like actually believing it or doing it for a check but i i i think doing it for a check is less um acceptable to me yeah yeah i think uh i don't know believing in crystals and tarot and shit and not doing it for a check that seems bad to me that's no good i i don't know i'm just i just think these people can go fuck themselves absolutely so anyway we have one last uh clip here and it's uh that caller who got interrupted by

alex barging in to bring leanne into the studio um he was trying to spend a sandy hook conspiracy oh good now's the time for it certainly and so they get back to him and he's still trying to spend this conspiracy and it just doesn't work i thought you'd like to know that i'm sorry could you did you get set to current yeah i'm sorry we had a little technical difficulty can you repeat we had some put you on hold we have like 10 people talking in here at the same time this is bullshit that's that's unreal it's great that he has like a hundred times the traffic or whatever so people can hear great radio like that like a hundred people in a fucking room that's unreal

yeah what is this a coach dave show so alex is full of this this narcissism that because he thinks he's right about all of these things he thinks he scooped the media he thinks that even the release of the fbi pictures of the suspects are uh evidence that he's right and uh he's being profited handsomely for it you know he's getting exactly what he wants which is way more attention and that's a probably a bad sign on the night of april 18th tamerlin and joker sarnev realized that they had been caught as soon as the fbi released pictures of them you know that's when they figured today well yeah yeah up till that point oh no they know it's us up to that point they weren't getting any suspicion thrown their way online from all of these blogs that were

researching and finding suspects the authorities had been tight-lipped about the leads they were pursuing and if you were them you might get the sense that you'd gotten away with it and from all accounts that's pretty much what they thought they'd gone back to their normal lives uh and thought hey maybe we pulled this off and then that press conference happened and it all got disrupted and they panicked the fbi press conference was at about five p.m. and at 10 31 p.m. the brothers approached the vehicle of an mit police officer named shon collier who they then killed most likely because they only had one gun and there were two of them at 11 26 p.m. they carjacked an suv in the driver of that car managed to escape and he called 911 at 12 19 a.m. he goes on to tell the

police that the two men who carjacked him told him that they bombed the boston marathon and that his car was equipped with gps so the police turned on that gps and began to track their car at 12 41 the police located the suv in water town along with a sedan uh it was being driven by the two brothers and it's called in the reporting officer is told not to approach until more units arrive so he follows them after a brief drive the driver of the suv gets out and he approaches the police car firing a gun at approximately the same time the police supervisor's unit shows up and someone else comes out of the sedan throwing homemade bombs at the police there's a brief firefight and at 12 49 p.m. the man with the gun who turns out to be tamerlin is tackled by a cop

whereupon he's run over by his younger brother who's attempting to flee tamerlin's put in an ambulance and taken to the hospital where he is pronounced dead at 106 a.m. despite attempts at resuscitation but joker got away he abandoned his car about a half mile away and fled on foot the night was absolute chaos and when it was all said and done one suspect was dead along with sean collier the uh mit officer additionally officer denis dj simmons suffered injuries in the water town firefight that would go on to take his life a year later in april 2014 he's officially recognized as the fifth victim of the bombing and though much of boston remembers him as a hero he's all too often forgotten in this story in particular his family was pretty upset

that the mark wallberg movie patriots day seemed to not even be aware of him even though there is a memorial loop of the other victims of that attack in the movie it's hard not to see that being a race thing but that might also be partially because it's a mark wallberg movie the entire situation changed overnight now the surviving perpetrator knows that the police know who he is and that they're looking for him but he doesn't know if his brother is dead or if he's being interrogated at that time now the police know that these suspects are absolutely willing to murder police and one of them is on the loose and armed at least with a gun and possibly with even more ids the city that was previously on edge with an absence of information now has come to the crest

and finds itself with a whole lot of information and it's fucking scary information no one knows where joe car went how does alex respond to all this that's what we'll learn on our next installment where we'll also get to learn a little bit more about these brothers i suspect it's going to be a gigantic mess and alex i'm not looking forward to it i can't even imagine what he's gonna end up doing with this really not looking forward to it if he's gone this crazy with the situation we've had so far when there's a firefight a killed cop one of the suspects is dead overnight i just can't even imagine how irresponsible the 19th is going to be now this is going to be a shit show yep so look forward to that hey hey oh god you know what it's just like the like you just think hey the day of

the bombing that's going to be the most yeah and then each passing day is just new levels of terrible behavior on his part that it's all new lows yeah it's constantly new lows it's a it's a spiral down the toilet bowl of sanity that is uh i mean just even without even without retrospect because obviously it's easy to look back and be like ah but even if even during that time it is unconscionable what he's done yes it is just unconscionable and how many people flocked to just the simplest possible explanation from the dumbest possible man in order to assuage their dumb fear or their very rational fear apologies the rational fear is what leads to the unsatisfied fear yeah yeah yeah and it's just like that's a fucking microcosm and then all the people who

flocked probably because it's a more interesting story and saw it as entertainment yeah and then maybe got sucked in yeah or even if they didn't get sucked in still helped prophet alex in his operation yeah it's really tragic to think about and uh it is it is like from these two days you can extrapolate the end of humanity like you see exactly how we're gonna go maybe not now it does pretend maybe not now maybe not soon but that is exactly how we're all gonna die like that's how it's gonna go down it all really helps make sense of his later trajectory yeah it really does this attention seeking behavior this desperation to be seen as on the on the right side the winning team appearances of destroying the globalists like it kind of does put into perspective a lot of like

the trump flip yeah and not just that but like this is him almost making that turn of like finally i'm actually right like this is that like that consistent that insistence that they are not giving me credit for being right that's that belief that holy shit me of all people finally the pieces are in place for me to present myself as right i think well i mean in that day i really do think he believes that he's nailed it i think it's possible i think it's an argument you can make i'm i'm less certain as someone who doesn't trust him at all for sure and i also think that his mind is such a just a like a like a spider's nest i don't know just some deep scary thing that's mysterious i see i see it exactly like the road you know like kormack

mccarthy wrote alex jones' brain it it's something that is uh it's hard to decipher you know you don't really you you think you understand what's going on but it may be something entirely different i i i'm reticent to say that he actually believes what he's saying or if he wasn't getting a ton of traffic off this i think you could make that argument much easier right right the fact that no for sure giddily celebrating all this traffic and recognizing like ha ha we're on top right like that really makes it difficult for me to believe that he definitely believes this because that's the ulterior motive that we know he oh no i've got the absolute correct explanation for this uh alex is possessed by the devil he would say that i know if and that's exactly what the devil would

say dan if he saw someone behaving like this he was certainly accused him of being i rest my case or it could just be his subconscious could be or the devil or could be god or any of the three who knows maybe they're all the same maybe anyway we'll be back indeed but until next time we got a website we do it's knowledge fight dot com yep we got uh also we're on twitter we are it's at knowledge underscore fight and act go to bed this has been a long one yeah um also we're on facebook we are on facebook and if you would like to listen to the show please go to itunes or wherever podcastual applications you use to download the show please leave a review do all that stuff tell you friends we'd love it uh yeah and we'll be back but until then i'm neo i'm leo i'm dzx clark

i reside at 666 boilston andy in chansas you're on the earth thanks for holding hello alex i'm a first time caller i'm a huge fan i love your work i love you