Knowledge Fight - #356: October 11, 2019

Episode Date: October 16, 2019

Today, Dan and Jordan check in on the present day happenings on the Alex Jones Show. In this installment, Alex continues his path of growing annoyance with Trump not doing what he wants him to do, and Alex reimagines a classic folktale.

I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys knowledge fight. I love you. Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes like to sit around, drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Indeed we are Dan. Jordan. Dan? Jordan. Have you ever won a trivia contest? I mean bar trivia. Bar trivia? Have you ever had one that you were particularly proud of that you're like, this one was all me. I had a team and they were fucking dead weight. Not necessarily, but I can think of two instances that stick out one very shameful and then one that was a victory. Okay. The shameful one is I was out with old buddy Nate Burroughs. Okay. And so our mutual friends. We went to a trivia night. And the one of the questions was who was picked over Michael Jordan in the NBA draft. And I had got it in my head. It's Len bias because I think I'd see like that after bias sort of documentary. I was convinced. I was incorrect. So sure. That was not correct. Okay. But so that brought great shame to my family name, my name. Yeah. Well, naturally. And then another time my brother was in town. Do and we went to a trivia thing together. I think also with Nate Burroughs. He likes to go to trivia. Yeah. Hey, it's a fun thing to do. But we went and my brother is substantially smarter than me. He knows way more than me about a broad range of topics. Right. Talking art, especially art stuff, aesthetic, aesthetic things, architecture, a lot of history. He's, he knows a lot. And so he was getting almost all of these questions. Right. Yeah. Then there was a question about the book, the picture of Dorian Gray.

Okay. Oh, yeah. And he thought the name of your fucking wheelhouse. Not really. He still knows much more about literature. He thought the name of it was the portrait of Dorian. But I knew it was the picture of Dorian Gray. I was vindicated on that. Yes. Yeah. I don't know if we ended up winning trivia that night, but that was a big win to me. I got you. It's the picture. It's the picture. Right. So anyway, I know a lot about Oscar Wilde books or at least one thing. I know the name of one of them. And I also know a lot about Alex Jones. And I know a little bit about the first and nothing about the second. Exactly. So Jordan, today we got a very interesting episode ahead of us. We are in the present day. And I had intended to cover a number of episodes, but there's no real reason to we're just going over October 11 2019, which is last Friday's episode. Okay. There's some interesting stuff on here. There's some Alex is real weird. I think he's hung over from the Trump rally. Right. Okay. That's my theory. All right. Okay. Even though he wasn't there, he was probably sipping a few while having a joyful time, either that or he just didn't sleep or something. I don't know. He's in a fucked up space. Okay, but we'll get to that in a moment. But that means that we're gonna get a TJ quote, right? No, we don't get any Thomas Jefferson quotes, but we do get a retelling of a very popular folk tale, a regular tale. Okay, so that is brings me great joy. Perfect. Something else that brings me great joy is taking a little moment to say thank you just people have signed up and are sporting the show. So first of all, John, thank you so much. You know, policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. No H on that job. We're getting a murder of johns these days. True. Jungle full of johns. No, couldn't come up with another J word. Thank you. Jalopy full of johns. Nope, not a J. Next. What? Yeah, I'm just kidding. Okay. Taylor. Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Next to Nicola. Thank you so much. You're now policy wonk.

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I'm a policy wonk. I'm not metrosexual. I want to take care of my skin. Damn it. I'm as high as a kite. This country's stupid. I'm a really good guy. They literally attack our testicles hanging with the devil. Man, you know, it's fun. Get down with Satan. Yeah, the queen just flipped her dictator switch. Thank you so much, Christy. Thank you very much. You are now the black dragon queen. Do not flip your dictator switch. Please do not. But thank you very much. We appreciate your assistance and help. Absolutely means a lot. Yeah. So Jordan, we're going to get now into October 11, which is it's an interesting episode in many ways. Like I said, there's a retelling of a folk tale that I'm super excited for you to hear because it's weird. But it also there's a weird thing that's going on where we've seen Alex kind of getting more mad with Trump. We've seen him having Joel Scousen on more regularly is himself quite a Trump critic. Right. As much as he is fine with a lot of the things Trump is doing, he thinks the Trump's an idiot. Well, yeah, he thinks that the Trump is giving lip service to a lot of ideas that the anti communists and weird extreme right wingers and John Birch types were into but Trump is too stupid to understand the geopolitical situation. That's Scousen's take. Yeah, he's not far off. Right. He's like if he was actually smart and knew what to do. Yeah, I would love him. He prefers he prefers a competent fascist dictating. Yes, I think that's right. Yeah. So but those things I think are indications that we see that Alex is hedging a little bit. He's trying to have a little bit of what he's doing. Accommodate the possibility of leaving Trump. Right. Right. And so when we start the show, we hear sort of those tones echoing and Alex's freestyle rhetoric.

Oh, yeah. That's what I need to know. Trump's not the same as me. Woo. He's the same ourselves. Trump is a echo of male bullheadedness and American strength, but an echo from the past. A piece of Americana, a lost relic, but if we don't ourselves rediscover what made America great, and if we ourselves don't say no to the bullying and the control of the globalists, we're going to lose everything. So you got him here saying, you know, Trump's not going to save us over a very poignant song. Yeah, it seems a little on the nose.

Yeah, it was almost a little too on the nose. Yeah, almost preplanned. Yeah, it does feel that way. Yeah. Yeah. Some of Alex's music choices are very incidental, but that one had the, like it had an air of like, he requested that because he's going to give a speech about how Trump's not going to save us. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, and that's, that's possible. I don't know. I think it's interesting because I feel like a lot more Republicans are having their disillusionment with Trump moment the same way we did with Obama, where it's like, oh, we thought you were this thing and you're doing this, this thing, that really sucks. Yeah. And you're going to hear a little bit more of that too. And it's an interesting thing how that kind of is universal in some ways, the disillusionment. Because, you know, the, you know, you see that a little bit from people who believe stuff like the QAnon theory. Yeah. Oh, this isn't going to happen. No, no. And I think Alex is having a little bit of that moment that like reality doesn't match up with the stories that I've been telling. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I need to find a way to still work this scam that I'm doing. I thought, I thought if we got this guy in, he would at least create an approximation of the reality of the stories that I'm telling you. Kind of hammer it into people that it's like that. And he does. Yeah. Words. Right. But not through the action. No, I'm not getting the results that I need to validate the like he's our hero. Right. Right. The thing. So Pat Buchanan, who I had, I just thought was really thought he was dead. He's still around. Yeah. I thought he died like six years ago. Why? Yeah. Maybe there's a Mandela effect situation. Does he know that he's still around? Yeah. Doesn't he wake up every morning like really again? So, Pat Buchanan has come out and written an op-ed apparently about how impeachment may be inevitable and Alex has some thoughts about this.

Pat Buchanan has the article out from worldanddaily.com is impeachment now inevitable. And you look at it, you say the first whistleblowers are hoax, the second whistleblowers are hoax. It's all hearsay garbage. We have the transcript. But then why do you smell blood in the wind? I'll tell you why we smell blood in the wind. It's because you can smell the piss in the wind. Ah, that's why. You can smell the piss. I'm going to need a far more explanation for what that means. It just means the globalists are pissing their pants because they're scared of... Oh, okay. That's what he's trying to say? Yeah. That is not a good metaphor for that. It's not good. No. But yeah, the globalists are super afraid and that's why there's fake whistleblowers that are coming out of the air. They're all hoaxes. We have the transcripts except we don't. Furthermore, yada, yada, yada. It's a very, very weak defense of a lot of this stuff. But I mean, what else are you going to do? Seeing all we are is piss in the wind. All we are is piss in the wind. It's one of the... I mean, I'm only human. But it's one of my failures as a critic that I love how Alex says piss. Really? Yeah. I find it really gross. I really find it disgusting. He over articulates the pee. Yes. Yeah, no, I hate it. I don't know why. No one could say piss like Alex. No, and repeating it or trying to makes me feel gross. If that is the legacy of his career, I think he has done one good thing in his broadcast. Yeah, you know, we don't... Not all of us get to do that in our lives, Dan, and that's something to be proud of, I think. Mispronouncing a word. Yeah. Absolutely. It's not mispronouncing, it's overpronouncing. It's putting a little... Put a little snake on it. So, Jordan, early on in the episode, we get to this retelling of a classic folk tale. John Henry. No.

You want to keep guessing? I don't know. Are we talking American folk tale? Yeah. I think so. I think so. It might have some brother's grim history behind it. I don't know. It's the three little pigs. Oh, okay. So, I'm just going to let this play. Alex, this is where I started to think he might be hungover. Okay. You already heard those super long pauses that are just him trying to figure out what to do. He's got no momentum. Everything is that gruff kind of distant speech. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But here, Alex, I think he starts by trying to tell the normal story of the three little pigs. And then it gets into, like, maybe a sequel. The third little pig went to the John Birch Society. No. They really figured out this whole racism problem. No, it's just weird. This is just weird. And now the system looks at this big rotting facade, and Trump's there with confidence trying to prop it up, but that's not enough. Let's talk about the country. Sure. And they decide that they can huff, and they can puff, and they can blow our house down. In fact, this House of Straw, the wolf doesn't even need to open the door or come down the chimney or blow it down. Because if the three little pigs were inside and they had any baby piglets, they would go out and feed the wolf those piglets and say, eat our babies. Just so you eat us later. In fact, the wolf even lets them pretend they're wolves. They kind of dress up in wolves outfits and pull up. He doesn't give them any of the flesh. But if he's full, he takes it dumb.

Seriously, he tells the pigs he can eat that and if they do, they pretend they're wolves, and they lick the wolf's ass. And the wolf says, hey, have some more babies for me. I want to eat those. And they say, yes, a boss. Because you see, they figured out the one way they're going to get to live is if they just keep having those babies for the wolf. But see, the wolf figured out how to make babies without a mommy and a daddy. So we're pretty, we're pretty far off track in terms of the story of the three little pigs. That is amazing. That is really amazing. How do you turn the three little pigs into a story about the pigs being willing to sacrifice their babies to wolves? The wolves, the wolf is the globalists. Right. No, I get that. Okay. Just making sure you picked up on the very subtle. No, I got that. I got that. It's just like, you could have, you could have gone anywhere with that.

Yeah. Oh man. Like, I mean, the wolves got to take a dump. The three little pigs absolutely didn't give their babies up to the wolf. I don't believe that they had babies. I'm fairly certain. They all also weren't at the same house. No, man.

Famously, that was the point of the story. Also, I mean, I guess the, you know, the way that you could extend this to the real world is like, we should have made our house out of bricks then. Yeah. Because that's the Instead of giving the The lesson of the three little pigs. So anyway, this goes on. And Alex gets to talking about how the wolf who has allowed these pigs to dress like the wolf and feed it their babies.

Oh, he's still going. Yeah, it goes on. That can't be. So the wolf resents the pigs for allowing him to treat them like this. So now, now in this retelling, the wolf has very complicated motivations behind everything. Gotcha. Okay. He just wanted to eat pigs.

That's at the, that's at the core of it. Right. But additionally, the wolf resents the pigs for not being strong enough to stand up to it. Naturally. So it makes sense. We had a higher class of pig in this town. Yeah. So pigs sitting there thinking he's a wolf and a wolf sitting there picking his teeth with a toothpick.

And he says, you know what? I really hate your guts, pig. You sold out your own time. When I'm done with all of them, I'm going to slowly tear you inside out. How does that sound there? Because it's all about conquering you little pigs. And you know the truth is, if you were wild boars, wolves run from wild boars because wild boars are impacts. And if the pigs ever act like boars, it'd be over for the wolves real quick.

Gotta pause real quick. If the pigs weren't pigs, then this would be going differently. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Great. Yes, you nailed it. Great. Good solution. See, people think having yellow bellies gets them ahead.

And you know what? When there's not enough men to stand up, I guess it's true. Be a yellow belly. Pretend you're a wolf when you know you're not. But see, some of us are going to be not sheep, not pigs, not wolves, but sheep dogs. And we like a good fight. And in the end, we're going to win. But I just want all of you out there thinking that you're safe kissing that wolf's stinking ass to know you're damn fools.

We've got a big broadcast lined up. You want to stay with us? Really? Yeah. Really? You're doing that at the end of that. Yeah. That's pretty, pretty spectacular.

Oh boy. I love the idea of Alex being mad about like drag queen story time. And then he tells that as like a child's story. Yeah. That's, that's bananas. It's all about Aina Lingus that's being done by these pigs on the wolf. It reminds me so much of a Pat Noswald's bit about being afraid. He'll do LSD in front of his daughter.

And he'll be down there and he's like, are you eating Lucky Charms? Let me tell you the real story about Lucky Charms. Okay. Now the, the grainy pieces are good for you, but they're shaped like crosses. Right. And ichthos symbols, the traditional Christian. It is. It has that same vibe.

Yeah. This is, this is stupid. Naval gazing weirdness. So also what Alex is doing there at the end of this completely unhinged diatribe is he's weaving together something cribbed from the story of the three little pigs and a little bit from the movie American Sniper. In the movie, Chris Kyle's character gives a speech about how in life there are three kinds of people.

There's sheep, wolves and sheep dogs. The normal people who have no capacity for violence are sheep. The people who can be violent but hate others are the wolves. And the people who can be violent but love everyone are sheep dogs. It's a woefully simplistic reduction of people's alignments and how violence works in society, but it was a seed that became very, very popular, particularly in gun advocacy communities. Basically, they use it as a way to frame their need for guns. It's so they can be sheep dogs that protect all the rest of the sheep, like us from the wolves.

Yeah. No, it makes perfect sense. Yeah. Good guy with a gun, but instead let's make it an animal metaphor and then the little pigs will feed us their babies. And the fact that Alex works and I'm going to be a sheep dog at the end gives me, and because it sort of tracks with the theme of that whole retelling of the three little pigs, I'm pretty sure he just watched American Sniper recently.

Okay. That speech in American Sniper itself was stolen from a book called On Combat, written in 2004 by Lieutenant Colonel David Grossman. And it's a complete pile of violence justifying bullshit. Yeah. It's nonsense. That sounds right. Honestly, when I was listening to this, I was worried for Alex's mental state as this

episode is getting going. He sounds completely fucked up. He's indicating that Trump isn't going to save us. Then he's rambling his way through a gritty reboot of this folk tale. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, so he should have called in sick. For sure. Like, who cares about him at all?

Like, if he's acting like this, you got to get him some help. I don't know if it's booze or anything, but you're a lunatic. Yeah, no. I really have a hard time believing that that is actually broadcast on anything. That is so beyond... How could you listen to that and be like, well, this guy's okay? Yeah, absolutely. That's insane.

Yeah. Yeah. And I understand when it's super profitable. Like, I understand when all the money is coming in and everything's good. Oh, sure. Like, you make excuses like, yeah, look, he's clearly struggling out there, but we got another boat. Right.

It's awesome. It's a great trade-off. Ride that horse till it dies. Yeah. Now, I just think like, you got to stop kidding yourself that the ship's going to come in. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, he needs help. The only trajectory is further downward.

If anybody cared about him in his life, they would step in and be like, you know, this keeps going further down. Yeah. This path doesn't like, all of a sudden, let's say in six months, it's like, oh, what do you know? Alex is a billionaire now. Yeah. Everyone loves him.

It doesn't go that way. It's not... Facebook's never letting you back on. Right. It's never happening. And even if it does, that's still going to be diminishing returns. Yeah. It's still like, I just, I don't know, someone needs to really check in.

Because he's also like indicating like pretty regular breaks with reality and like how many of them are actually sincere and how many are just like him talking shit. It's really hard to say. Yeah. But if you take any of the things he's saying seriously, he is a man who's living in a state where he's having a difficult time differentiating between reality and his own fantasies, delusions as pretty well transmitted in this next clip. He's talking about how people who politically disagree with him and have decided that they're

evil. Right. They're not possessed by demons so much as they become an empty vessel that demons just can jump into like in the matrix. I mean, I, look, I can't disprove that. Okay. So I think I would like a little bit more from him on why. So I'm looking forward to this.

Well, I'm not sure you're going to get it, but here's what he has to say. The lights are on, but nobody's home, but see, that's not quite right. Lights are on somebody else is home and just exactly who is that just exactly what is that? It's the devil. Spoiler. Well, yeah, obviously. It's a transmission from the devil. In fact, most of these people you call possessed, all right.

It's not even an entity, but studying it very closely. Most of them, it's actually a transmission. That's why you can go from one block to another block in places like Seattle and San Francisco. I've seen it. And the first time I saw it, I was like, step back and stumble going, what? I saw that in the matrix. I didn't know that was real. It's not the person that's going after Neo and Morpheus jumps in a cop, jumps in a woman,

jumps in the cab driver, no matter where he goes, he just jumps into the park. You know, there's a maid cleaning jumps into them and you shove aside the consciousness is there. It's just turned itself over and it just jumps, jumps, jumps. I was in Seattle. Oh yeah. You saw a lot of feeds down there that were throwing coffee on me screaming at me yelling at me and I go around one block and somebody talking like a demon and then I walk around

another block and they go, yeah, I saw you over there. Yeah. Yep. Yep. It's me. I'm going to get you. I mean, and you're like, whoa, like what is that? It's just a transmission.

And if you could figure it out where it's coming from or how to block it, you'd save the planet. What the fuck is he like, he's talked about this sort of thing repeatedly. It's not just his trip to Seattle. He said stuff about like being in the grocery store and people just turn into demons around him. Like I don't know if he's sincere about that or if he's talking shit. If he's sincere and he actually is experiencing that, he needs to go to a hospital. That is insane.

Yeah. That is a very serious mental condition that he's probably struggling with. Like and if he's lying about it, then what he's doing is normalizing the experience that someone might have if they're having, let's say a break with reality. He's saying, no, no, no, it's real. It's demons. Let's say you're a listener who's listening to this show and maybe you're experiencing something like that.

You're having hallucinations, auditory or visual or whatever. Alex is like, no, that's demons. That's a transmission from another. How are you going to take that? Are you going to take that? Like, oh, I should probably go get my meds checked out or I should go get help. No, you're going to be like, there's fucking demons all around me. I better do something about it.

Yeah. Yeah. Either way, he's dangerous. Even if you don't like, even if he's not lying, he's still normalizing mental illness. Yeah, totally. Or not mental illness, the, the destructive parts of it. These sort of dangerous side effects and symptoms that people can be experiencing. And even if the people who are experiencing those things, who Alex turns into proof of

his conspiracies, you know, like these symptoms are proof of his conspiracy. Even if they don't act out and go and commit like violent acts or anything, it's still keeping them from getting the help they need. Yeah. It's still hurting them. And even that alone, even if they don't act out against any of these people who they've now determined to be demons, it's still, Alex is, is severely hurting the people listening to him.

Yeah. And I don't know which of those I think is worse, which option, like Alex actually experiencing these things or just talking shit in such a way that normalizes and normalizes isn't the right word. Well, I think, I think, uh, I don't think it really changes anything either way. I think either way, he needs to be in a hospital because if he's actually experiencing these things, then he needs to be in a hospital because that is a symptom of a very serious issue.

And if he's not experiencing these things, he needs to be in a hospital because why are you pretending like you're experiencing these things? That is its own set of mental illness. Now you've reached the catch 22 level of, uh, he's fucked. He needs help. He needs help. Yeah. So at this point in the episode, we're about half an hour in or so, and we've got the

reason he's done this like tone of voice the entire time, not the whole time, but most of it. Yeah. This like defeated introspective, uh, rambling nonsensical, uh, really wonka of red, uh, ridiculous sadness. He has some moments of flourish a little bit when he's talking about his sales, but, uh, yeah, there's not, uh, it's pretty, it's a pretty fucked up intro to the episode. Trump's not going to save us.

Let me tell you about these pigs and the wolf, right? Eating ass. Right. Uh, then, uh, you know, I see crazy hallucinations of demons coming to chase me and jumping in and out of people's bodies. I've been studying the transmissions of the devil and it turns out that I watched the matrix and I was like, Oh, I didn't know that was real last because I watched the matrix last night.

I drank a bottle of cough syrup and between American sniper and the matrix and, uh, here's what happened. I was hanging out with Lil Wayne and she got a little wild. Uh-huh. So this clip sounds even weirder knowing that this is what we've been doing for the beginning of this episode. Now I've already talked big picture earlier in the last 30 minutes of the transmission, so let me get into the, on the ground effects of the rise of evil on a planetary scale and

the economic, cultural, spiritual weather report as we enter much, much more dangerous seas. You think these 20 foot waves are big waves coming in to be a hundred feet tall, a thousand feet tall and then very quickly mass insanity is going to set in and you're going to see mass suicides and people trampling each other by the millions and nuclear reactors melting down and exploding and huge war starting. General insanity breaking out. You think you've seen something so far? We are living in the millisecond as the teen cobra strikes and sinks its veins into our

thigh. I served under general insanity. You know, I'm going to, I'm going to say the thing that he most reminds me of right now is Charles Manson. This is straight out of Charles Manson. It does have a similar feel to it. He's just not, he's just not providing underage girls to Dennis Wilson and I think that's the only difference right now.

I can see. Yeah. I mean, it's cult leadership. It's extreme. It's, uh, oh yeah, try, but it's also uninspired and, and, uh, lackadaisically delivered Charles Manson. I guess I haven't listened to a ton of Charles Manson speeches. So pretty great.

Okay. Maybe we'll do one for a wacky Wednesday. Uh, I, yeah, I, I just hear like real trouble and that's one of the reasons why the present day also isn't, uh, super compelling to me is like, I just see somebody who like someone should be helping and everyone around him is negligent for whatever reason. Some people probably out of fear of like his reaction, which I couldn't understand. Terrifying. Sure.

He's like a super angry dude, uh, who is resistant to people getting help, uh, him help. Like I imagine someone saying you need to go talk to somebody who would be taken as you're working for the globalists. Well, not just that, but a, if, if not just the, you're working for the globalists, but also a terrible insult, like, are you telling me that I'm not man enough to be in perfect mental health condition? It's an effort. You're a fucking yeah.

Yeah. Uh, any weakness. So there's that or possibly people who work with him who don't care or people who are able to convince themselves that like, ah, it's an act. He's just doing this for ratings or whatever. You know, like, as I think, I think I agree with you that like, even if he is just pretending to be this crazy, yeah, that is an indication of something that's a problem or something that he, he's clearly wrestling with.

Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I just, it's like he's got Munchausen's, like he's, he aspires to Munchausen's disease, something like that. I mostly see a problem that isn't all that interesting to me that could be solved if anyone cared. And the part of it that's not that interesting to me is like all of this stuff that most

of his narratives all just double back into like stuff that we could cover and discuss more interestingly in other times or even have already. Yeah. Yeah. You know, just like this racist shit, this anti-communist nonsense, this everyone's the devil. Like it's, I don't know, it, it, uh, it leaves me searching for things like the folktale three little pigs stuff because otherwise there's like he's just phoning it in and boring

as shit. I, I, I am like that three little pigs thing is so wild. I'm still struggling to comprehend that it's real. Like when you brought it up again, I was like, yeah, but did that really happen? Like that's so ridiculous. See the pigs, the pigs, they drink, drink the wolf's piss. Yeah. What?

Like what? What? And also how are you still going? Yeah. How are you still going? The three little pigs is a very short story that either you don't understand or you are rewriting. It also, it also worries me of like how he explains these stories to his kids.

Yeah. No, for sure. Just imagine, cause there, there are like really just basic life lessons that are conveyed through these folk stories, just their, their function and setting. Now the first little pig billed his house out of straw. Now the reason you don't build your house out of straw is cause then you're going to have to eat the wolf's ass. All right.

And then you're going to have to eat the wolf's ass next, like he huffs and he puffs and he you eat his ass. That's what happens. And then you have to drink his piss. And he's a globalist. And he's a globalist. Yeah. A lot of it's there.

Yeah. So at the end of that last clip, he talked about how the venom, the fangs of the cobra are coming into us. And so Alex rambles about that for a little bit and then we realized that he forgot to turn off the ringer on his phone. The initial sting is only the beginning. Remember for every action, there's an equal and opposite reaction. Cool.

So then he just rambles a bit about that while like, well, he takes a look at his phone, check it out. Who is it? Is that anybody important? No. Yeah. So it's good that along the way with this like complete nonsensical, complete, unhinged, ridiculous stuff, the content that he's doing, he's also forgetting to turn off his

ringer before he starts. That's so fun. So you get now back to this light criticism of Trump and I think, you know, this is at least interesting because there's a, there's a storyline through Alex's experience with Trump. Yeah. And at least that's something to follow. And it turns out that Alex has some criticisms, but it mostly comes from a place where he's

worried that if Trump doesn't do the right thing, he will summon literal demons. Oh, that'll happen. Pat Buchanan saying is impeachment inevitable. And while a lot of folks are saying that Trump could be impeached and then even removed, it doesn't matter that he hasn't done anything wrong. Not committing a crime isn't enough. Standing up to the deep state triggered their wrath. And so now if Trump doesn't go after them and it doesn't find the people that will prosecute

them, then he's summoned the demon without knowing how to control it and it's going to be eaten along with the rest of us, at least in this face. And that's really where the criticism of Trump comes in. Oh, that's where it comes in. All right. Here we go. Here we go. This is further evidence that he is a Satanist.

In his conception, literally summoned a demon and he just doesn't know how to control it. And that makes me think of Lovecraft, the case of Charles Dexter Ward, which is all about that. Don't, don't summon that, which you can't bring back down or whatever. Yeah. And yeah, I don't, that is a lesson that you could have learned if you'd properly told the story of the three little pigs. I'll tell you that right now.

When you have like, that's where your criticism starts or that's where it comes from. Your criticism isn't coming from a sincere place. You're just a lunatic. No, I think I did read Nancy Pelosi add into the articles of impeachment that he summoned a literal demon and could not control it anymore. Now, if he could control it, this would not be an impeachable offense. Yeah, no, of course. Not be a high crime or misdemeanor.

It'd be a very strong demon. We couldn't fight against it. No. It's, there's stuff like that that's kind of interesting to keep track of. And let me be totally clear. There are things that are going to come up over the course of this episode that I think are still worth like our attention and being like, here's, here's what's being said. Yeah.

Like that kind of thing. But in terms of my intellectual curiosities, there's much less to like, I get really excited going back through the 2013 stuff because there's, there's so much to dig into. How does this work? The propaganda and all this is very simplistic in the present day. It's not even that complicated. You don't want to, you don't want to let, you know, put out lines on what specific demon he may have summoned.

I mean, sure. It could be as a thought. See now, I was thinking as real could be Zellototh could be, could be one of the classics Beelzebub. Of course. Turterga Turterga could be Turterga. It can't be Turterga could be Manturok. You know what?

You know what? That might be why he can't control it. He can't pronounce the name properly. Turterga. Everybody knows this. I've just been doing eternal darkness references for two days now. Yeah. I love that game.

So Alex's main gripe, even though he's saying the Trump put up a demon that he can't put down all this dumb bullshit. His main gripe is the Trump isn't taking action on censorship, which again, we know, I want to have a Facebook. So he's complaining about somebody else getting kicked off Facebook and man, all they do is just broadcast Trump's speeches and if Brad Parcell knows everything about the internet, then he knows how millions and millions of people have been persecuted and attacked and shut down for supporting the president.

He knows how right side broadcasting, that's nothing but show the president's speeches has been banned on Facebook. And now this is an absolute tyranny. This also is after Alex complains about Brad Parcell getting asked on a video like what he thinks about Alex Jones being kicked off Facebook and all this and he's like, who's Alex Jones? Nice. He's like, I'm not mad about that.

I'm not mad about that. He's very mad about that. He's furious about it. What do you mean? He's not mad about that. So Alex is going to bat for right side broadcasting. All they do is air Trump speeches. Yeah.

But that, but that's hate speech. Well, that wouldn't be enough to get them kicked off Facebook naturally, even though it should be. But that's all they do, man. And that's tyranny. Sure. So I assume that that's all they do. So they're, you know, he's saying that getting kicked off Facebook, you know, it's almost

like Facebook saying that the president of the United States can't have their own speeches on Facebook. I really don't. That's tyranny. There's a little bit about right side broadcasting that Alex is conveniently leaving out of his characterization of them that would go a long way towards explaining why they might not be allowed on Facebook. In 2017, right side broadcasting hired Joey Salads, a YouTube figure who's mostly known

for two things. Salads. Nope. The first thing is that he possibly recorded himself peeing in his own mouth for a stunt video of some sort. I mean, like, I don't even want to get into the specifics, but I assume he claims he didn't swallow on Twitter is, well, no, that's, I think I'm disappointed. That's not what I paid to see.

Lack of commitment. That's not what I paid to see. Right. The second thing he's known for is a series of videos that he made that were purporting to show that black men were violent towards Trump supporters. One of the more egregious examples of this was a video where he claimed he was setting up a camera on a car that had Trump stickers on it in a black neighborhood and just seeing what happened to it.

So a group of young black men come and they destroy the car and tear the Trump stickers off and would have you, and Joey presented that as proof that that's just how black people act. Say, quote, saying, quote, as you can see from this video, the black community is very violent towards Trump and his supporters. That video hit a million views within hours. This is a guy who peed in his own mouth. Largely driven by traffic that he got from it being reposted on Drudge.

Sure. Unfortunately for Joey, someone in the neighborhood where he was shooting this video caught some footage of their own, namely footage of the black men waiting around behind a camera tripod while Joey delivered his lines to the camera. The entire video was a racist hoax designed to justify Trump supporters, victimization narratives and their deep racism. Knowing that he was caught, Joey tried to make excuses, but then he ended up having to apologize and he said, quote, I thought I could get away with it, but I didn't.

This isn't even close to the only fake race baiting video he's put out. He's a complete piece of shit. And if right side broadcasting would even consider hiring him in 2017, which is after he did that car hoax, they know what they're doing. Well, yeah. Also side note, Joey Salads is currently running as a Republican for the New York 11th District Congressional seat. Pee in everybody's mouth.

So they hired that dude. That's not just airing Trump speeches. That's hiring a known racist propagandist. You know what you're getting in. And it's not an isolated incident. They also hired Nick Fuentes, a very young, very stupid white supremacist. Imagine any neo-Nazi leaning white nationalist position a person could hold and you can kind of imagine what that dude is all about.

Of course he denies all those labels and just thinks of himself as a guy who loves America and knows it's all about white people. He's terrible. Well, that's not good. Fuentes is time at the network was short, however, because in August 2017, he got sacked after he went on an on air rant about how the constitution doesn't apply to Muslims and immigrants and said, quote, who runs the media globalists? Time to kill the globalists.

Okay. I do not want to not watch CNN. I don't want CNN to go out of business. I don't want CNN to be more honest. I want people that run CNN to be arrested and deported or hanged. So that's the just airing Trump speeches. All right. Now I will say, I will say this.

That is a hot take. I'm going to give him that. Yeah. Okay. The network also ran shows hosted by Mike Cernovich and former info wars reporter Rambo Joe Pete to gate bigs. Sure. Oh, but I forgot.

According to Alex, all they do is they're president's pages. Also I literally just went to their Facebook page and it's still there with 273,000 followers and one of those little verification badges. So they're verified page. It's what they haven't been kicked off Facebook at all. They haven't been kicked off Facebook. No, this is a lie on top of a lie. Why are they doing this then?

Why is Alex doing it? Yeah. Because he wants to defend the narrative of conservative victim hood. This is hate these people. This is all just pathetic and transparent bullshit. Like he's lying about what this network is in order to make it like, Hey, they're just dating. It's broadcast Trump speeches.

And then he's lying about them getting kicked off Facebook. It's very publicly event. It's right there. Have you ever heard the phrase hat on a hat? Yes, it's that. It's that. But for white victim. Yeah.

Yeah. So a hood on a hood. All right. That's a good way. All right. There we go. So Alex gets on to talking about Beto, Beto O'Rourke. Sure.

Are we still doing that? Yeah. Beto said some stuff about how church, there was that LGBTQ debate. Yes. And he indicated that churches that are against gay marriage shouldn't have 501c3 status. What if he argued that no church should have 501c3 status? I think Alex might be okay with that, but he still wants some tax exempt. No, of course.

He just doesn't want the other part of it. Anyway, Alex is mad about this. He yells about how Beto's a mouthpiece of the mouthpiece of the globalist. Sure. And then he lies about something Trump claims he did. So when Beto gets up there looking like it from the Adams family, all crazy. He's speaking from this globalist system. He's just a mouth.

He's a tentacle. You can laugh at him all day, but he means business when he says we're going to take your guns and we're going to take your speech and we're going to go in and take control of the churches. The churches got tricked in the fifties into being 501c3. Oh, you're still tax exempt, just sign these forms. You're no longer a church, you're now a charity. Now they come in with regulations.

Well, Trump removes those regulations. One of the best things he did, saying those are unconstitutional, but he already had the first amendment saying it to begin with. You're right. That wasn't it. It's the hairy guy. Yeah. Was he trying to talk?

Was he trying to? I thought it was Lurch. Maybe. Maybe. Yeah. Because the guy puts the light bulbs in his mouth. Yeah. No, that's faster.

Yeah. Or Christopher Lloyd. Yeah. He clearly watched a couple of movies, and Adam's family wasn't one of them, so got that reference wrong. So there's an essential misunderstanding that Alex has about the rules for churches and other charitable organizations that get to enjoy a tax-exempt status, which were all laid out in what's known as the Johnson Amendment.

He thinks that the rules say that churches can't talk at all about politics or social issues, but that is not and has never been the rule. The amendment is specifically about these sorts of organizations engaging in partisan political activity. If a church is against abortion, they can be against abortion. They just can't use their church to support a specific anti-abortion candidate or attack a pro-abortion candidate or replace candidate with measure or whatever. They can't use it for political advocacy specifically.

Right. And thank God that is strictly enforced. Right. That's the other thing. Yeah. This isn't a rule that's ever been enforced very strongly, pretty much ever. I would venture to guess that many of the people listening to this show and the two people who have mics in their hands right now have been to a church where partisan politics

have been engaged in. Yup. Small instances of it are just kind of ignored by the IRS, because they know that strict enforcement of this rule is way more trouble than it's worth. Oh, man. It's an important rule to be in place, though, so they can go after organizations that try to exploit tax exemption to create political machines and that kind of thing. Yeah.

It is important to be there even if they're never enforcing it in practice. Right. Churches legitimately almost never get in trouble for Johnson Amendment violations. On May 4th, 2017, Trump signed an executive order saying that the Secretary of the Treasury shouldn't really enforce the 501c3 rules, which most experts agree is really just a symbolic act and it's more just pandering to his base. Oh, he would never do that, though. And then the ACLU said it, quote, had no discernible policy outcome.

Of course, after Trump signed the order, he started running around bragging about getting rid of the Johnson Amendment, which he didn't do and couldn't do even if he wanted to. It's a load of performative bullshit. And naturally, Alex thinks it's real. But the thing that I find interesting is that in that clip, Alex said it's one of the best things Trump's done while he's in office, which is damning that dude with faint praise. No, I mean... The best thing he did was pander.

I think the best thing he did was nothing. So that's, oh, man, of course... Back to the wall. That's such reality TV show. What's the best thing he did? Such reality TV show president. That's what we have. He's creating a narrative so he can sell it.

Which kind of makes sense, I guess, with Alex's... No, of course. So anyway, he gets to yelling more about Beto and this is stupid. So Beto O'Rourke, I played it last hour, says, let's take away the tax exemption of any church that doesn't accept bestiality, pedophilia, all of it. He did say that. Well, you can't do that. It's the First Amendment.

The government has no jurisdiction. But the churches are run by the Ecumenical World Council of Churches that teaches them they have no rights. And so until we take our churches back, it's over. So make churches great again. Yeah. I don't know why Alex would even think that a church can't speak out against a bestiality. Like what do you...

Why? Why would... Is that even up for debate? Like in the political sphere? I mean, is that... That's a good question. Would that somehow be considered a partisan politics? I think so.

I think so. I think it's long been a policy goal of specifically independence for some reason. Bring bestiality back. I don't know why it needs to come back. I don't know why it was there in the first place. But independence, 98% of them in every poll. 0% Democrat, 0% Republican, 98% independent. That's such nonsense.

I just... I imagine this fantasy scenario, Alex's painting, where like the IRS goes after a church because they're against a bestiality. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like can you even imagine what that would look like in the real world? A fun day. That would be a day. A distraction.

That would be a whole man, Twitter would love that for a day. Yeah. So we talked about this or touched on it a tiny bit earlier. There's that sort of like disillusionment moment where you have to peer through the clouds and see like, what I wanted is probably not happening. You see what you actually bought. And I think that these next couple of clips really get to the heart of that for Alex. Tenuous connections to Giuliani indicted campaign finance fraud and now they're claiming they've

got congressman one who got money from them from a pack, which is totally legal. So the threats are going on big time behind the scenes and if Trump doesn't start executing his power, he will be taken down. Tenuous connections to Giuliani. Today, as we're recording this, Reuters came out with a headline exclusive Trump's lawyer, Giuliani was paid $500,000 to consult on indicted associates firm. Tenuous, tenuous connections. Wow.

I mean, that's look, you know, a gig's a gig in the, in today's gig economy, you know, it was either drive Uber or more money than I've probably made maybe in my life. Yeah. No. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. Tenuous, tenuous S connections though.

Let's see here. No worries. Don't worry about it. Oh boy. I, I find Giuliani to be some sort of weird court jester now. Like hasn't he become something of a mascot where they, they trot him out like a marionette and he says all kinds of weird things and everybody's like, he's going to get you guys killed.

Why are you still doing this? And Trump is like, he makes me laugh. I don't fucking know. I think the most important thing in that clip though, because all that minimizing is exactly what you'd expect from Alex. It's all just like, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. You shouldn't have to say something's totally legal. Well, he always does that legally awful action, you know, don't do anything illegal.

If you have to say it, that's a bad sign. I think that the, the thing is like Alex started that clip saying everyone's tired of hearing people say that Trump's going to indict the deep state. You know who says that all the time? He does. You Alex. Several years. You're now saying that everyone's tired of the line that I've been feeding them, which

is probably accurate. I bet he is. I'm sure you got a few emails. Yeah. And so now I think it's time to pivot and I think you start to see the early signs of it. Now, how far he's going to go with it, how much he's going to tend to this plant as it grows.

Right. I have no fucking idea, but I see this as planting seeds. I care about the president so much and I care about my own fate and my children's fate even more that I'm very upset with the president. I don't want to hear from any of the administration that it's two weeks till people are indicted anymore. I want to see indictments and I want to see deep status frog marched out right now. Now that's not going to happen.

No. And he knows that. Yeah. So that frees him up to be like, I put it on the line. I said, I'm tired of hearing this talk. I want to see action and when the action doesn't come, you'll be like, I love what the president stands for. He's a relic of Americana or whatever the fuck masculinity nonsense ideas I have.

And you know what? It just didn't come through. It didn't happen. We got to save ourselves right at the top of the show. Right. On the, on the scale of zero to one, exactly how many Isis does Trump have up his dirty asshole right now? I would say point five, six, we're half a, we're half to little over half a little

half over every other than just in his ass. Gotcha. Oh, that's, that's a lot of Isis up your ass too much. You got to get a big to lick it. This is a family show. Yeah. All right. So, uh, Alex, it sort of goes further down this road, expands on this theme here in this

next clip. They're on top of us raping us. You can smell their breath. They're looking into our eyes. They're squatting on top of us, panning on us family show. So we need you to do not do not and talk isn't enough. Oh boy. Pull free number to join us.

Oh, whoa. Got to take some calls on that note. Yeah. I mean, he's just calling for jump to lock up and solidify power by taking out his political rivals that Alex has determined are deep state operatives. So that's good. Right. That's healthy.

It's frustrating that they managed to convince, uh, I would say roughly 33% of the, uh, United States of fantasies. It's really frustrating. Like that, that whole like lock her up and all of that shit and all of that. And you're, it's like you're, you've sold them on something that is not real. And the fantasies really only serve in the real world. They only really serve to help someone who wishes to solidify authoritarian power do so.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Circumvent court, circumvent Congress, uh, take, uh, singular executive authority. Like that's really the only function that's something like this serves. Right. Calling for Trump to lock up all of his imaginary deep state enemies and shit.

Like that's cool, man. Yeah. You're just normalizing a rise of a tyrant. And the, uh, yeah. And the only thing that you get out of it is the, uh, I guess, um, emotional satisfaction of watching somebody that you've been told is evil, get treated like they're evil. If you're a listener, you're going to get, cause you're going to get fucked up by all the policies that actually come into play.

Yes. If you're someone on the ground, absolutely. But if you're someone like Alex, you have the, maybe the idea that I'll get back on Facebook. If the Trump, right, right, right, right, right. In order to, yeah, we're going to have to control the means of Facebook production, uh, in order for me to get back on it. Yeah.

I just want a tyrant to do it. Yeah. Alex, uh, like you said, he's going to take some calls and he's freed up most of the time. He's canceled his guests. He's canceled his guests. He's canceled Nick Begich hosting the fourth hour because he wants to take some calls. Okay. And he wants calls from people who disagree with him.

Sure. But if you listen to how he's setting this up, it really strongly implies that if you call in, uh, and you disagree with him, you're probably a demon and no one calls in to disagree with him because they're too afraid of having a interaction with him. I would say that if I were listening, I was like, I'm probably going to be dealt with as if I'm a demon. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Probably best not to engage. Not worth it. And by the way, if you think Trump should be impeached, you're welcome to call in. We're not a cult like the left where they screen out all the calls they disagree with. This is a real organization here. We have real discussions on people that call and disagree always and say, I'm the government or I'm corrupt or I'm Bill Hicks or something.

And so I will yell at you for stuff like that. Cause it's not true. But if you have substantive stuff to talk about, we would love to hear from you. Let's see. The left is a satanic system. Right. Whoever wants us to exist. So they don't ever want to commune with us and actually have a real discussion because

they don't believe in themselves and their own humanity. And so they can never join with us because we represent the life force and communion with God. And we represent the infinity of consciousness that is already with us. So that kind of disqualifies anybody from actually having a substantive argument on the other side. Right. Well, they're just demons.

Sure. And I'll treat you as such. Yeah. You know what? We're not a cult like the left. I'm just telling you that a supernatural force is controlling them, making them the targets of violence for us. And I wish they talked to me with substantive arguments.

I know. I don't understand why they won't just engage with what I'm saying. Yeah. It's kind of just like a preemptive way to not ever have those conversations. Yeah, exactly. While blaming the other side for never having those conversations. Exactly. Whatever.

Yep. So Alex is mad about gender pronouns as he is want to do, as he is known on the streets. Now. Yeah. Oh, boy. So he's mad about the tyranny of this political correctness of people being, I don't know, expected to treat people like how they want to be treated. Yeah, I would say so.

And so, but it's interesting because he's mad about that. But the things that he uses as an example of times that, you know, we've acquiesced to these sorts of things in the past indicate to me some bad things. These people are carrying out a cult of making you talk the way they want. First it's the N word. You think, well, I think that's reasonable, but notice all the rappers, everybody else can use it. It's just you can't.

And then it's lovely. We're just going to ban the tax exemption of the KKK. Okay. And then now it's your church down the street that's anti-war or now the church down the street that doesn't want to kill babies after they're born. So they think you're ready to capitulate. They think you're ready to roll over. The question is, are you, does he think he's saying that banning the N word was the slippery

slope that gets us to, I'm less interested in that because then we're it isn't banned. You can say it if you want. No, you can't. Apparently. Yeah. You can't. No, it's not illegal. KKK isn't tax exempt anymore.

That part is the part that I'm more interested in because it does seem to imply that he thinks the clan should be tax exempt. Well, you should have. I mean, that was the slippery slope. You know, you give the clan, you take away their tax exempt status. Next thing you know, when somebody says they want to be referred to as she, you have to do it. Right.

No, that makes perfect sense. No, no, no. There's a parallel between respecting people's gender pronouns and some terrible authoritarian sure. So the state will end up in yeah, yeah. But the parallel to that is they took away the clan's tax exempt status and then your mom and pop child church down the street. That's just against the war.

They're against war. They have their tax exempt status taken away. Yeah. It's not at all accurate. It's not real, but it does seem to indicate that Alex thinks that the clan should have kept tax. Yeah, absolutely. Which is fucked up.

Yeah. Wow. I mean, look, free speech and tax exempt status. We have to respect the KKK, I guess is his point. I guess. Has he never seen Blues Brothers? I feel like he would have liked Blues Brothers. I don't know.

Yeah. So anyway, this next clip is really fucked up and it's more of this deteriorating and descending into like being mad about drag queen storytime and just LGBTQ people in general. Not really associating or noting the differences between people who are drag performers and people who might be trans or non-binary. Right. He just lumps everything all into one. Everybody who's not me.

Right. And is disgusting towards this combined group. The man came to your children in the park and said, I want him to sit on my lap. He'd say, get the hell out of here. But see these leftist women bring their children and children and look up at him like, is it all right? They're always so scared, but finally they're made to do it. Now they're ready for the sexual conversion.

And all these tranny commandos tell you, they say, no, and their name is right there transitioning your kids. We're here to groom your children in video after video with arrogance and hatred and a big smile because the evil flows through them only when they carry out the evil. They suddenly feel alive. Touch them, ride them, sit on them, get close to the spider, come to me, my pretty. These things must be done delicately. I'll get you and your little dog too.

We're going to your phone calls. We come back. Sure. Okay. So I don't really care about that disgusting bullshit. The only reason I felt like you really need to play that is to demonstrate like he's still on this, this tip. And secondly, it's because he needed to do that in order to get into that headspace that

you heard at the end there. There's like headspace and it allows him to transition into like just a completely fucked up weird character. And it's not gross. For this point. Yeah. But here, listen to this. He's doing an incredibly fake gruff voice coming out of this like, he's now embodied

these demons that he's fighting against. And so in order to get out of it, he's got to embody the hero. Or under our theory, he is actually possessed by a demon right now. I don't know. Look, if I were Alex, I would say yes. Absolutely. See, there we go. But proof to me.

I think he now needs to play the other role, which is hero guy. I'm done a lot of talking in my life. See, I'm not trying to talk like some guy in old Western. I feel like you saying that means you are. That's what happens to a voice that's been used like it's supposed to in the fight. Got that old little rotative sound. Which somewhere back in our instincts, we say is the old gray back, what were the old gray backs out there?

They've all been told to go away. They've all sold out or they never discovered even who they were. And it's about pronoun. The best golf membership is a symbol of the power when it's the exercise of their will against evil. Notice that his voice went back to normal there totally back to his normal. I'm not trying to sound like a cowboy. The sound of a man whose voice has been used in the right way in the fight.

Anyways, back to the normal conversation that we were having ridiculous, such bullshit. But the other thing I tried to look into gray backs, old gray backs. What the fuck is that? The only thing I could find is it was a term for like one of the currencies that was used before we had like a unified dollar. Yeah. Also, it was a regiment in the union army, but I don't think that's what he's referencing. See, I would have gone the other day.

But because they had gray uniforms. Yeah, yeah. Well, exactly. It was a specific troop. Right. In the... Right. Because the union was blue.

And I don't know what... I know that he wouldn't reference union soldiers. Yeah, no, exactly. But... Unless they were secret. It's got to be... False flagging? It's got to be some deep reference to a Western or something like that that I just don't know

and I can't find by searching for it. But whatever the case, I mean like he's just lost in a deep fantasy of like doing impressions of demons and then impressions of who he wants to protect us from the demons. Yeah. Because it's just like a guy who's playing out just an absurd one-man show. That's all this is. It's just... It's a mentally unwell one-man show.

It's so confusing to me. It's not confusing to me. I apologize. It is so utterly beyond parody that nobody would be more furious of being misgendered than Alex. Right. If you were to call him she over and over and over again, he would be so angry. It would drive him crazy.

It would. Yeah. You know what? It drives you crazy to be misgendered every day. Or even just... In every conversation. Or just call him Pete over and over again. Yeah.

Why is it that you can't put one and one together? That's because they're trying to attack masculinity in order to destroy the quest. Okay, fine. Well, then you're a sheep. Fuck off. I don't care. Yeah. It is interesting that those sort of leaps are just incapable of making.

So I think you got a lunatic here who's doing like lunatic shit. But you have to recognize in with that lunacy is the message of Trump needs to lock up his political enemies. And then also it gets geopolitical too. So when he starts taking calls and he ends up talking to a Canadian who has a little bit of a bone to pick about how a certain politician is being treated there. You know, being up in Canada, we have a federal election coming later this month and it's really incredible.

We have a classical liberal that's come onto the stage and you see the same pattern happening where it's populist movement. You know, just the classical liberal roots of a Western democracy and he's being labeled neo-Nazi. Yeah. That's interesting. So this caller is talking about Maxim Bernier, who's the founder of the People's Party of Canada.

Well, I'll be the first to admit that I do not know everything about the Canadian political scene. I can absolutely tell you why people are throwing around words like neo-Nazi and fascist. It's because his party seems to have a bunch of neo-Nazis and fascists in it. All right. Well, that's okay. Fine. We'll give you that one.

You see, in order for the People's Party to file with the Canadian elections folk and thus have the status of being a political party to be able to run in elections, they needed to have at least 250 people sign their registration documents, attesting that they are members of this actual political party. One of the names on that list was Sean Walker, who was formerly the head of the neo-Nazi organization, the National Alliance. Ah, formerly. You can't call him a neo-Nazi anymore.

You want to know why he wasn't anymore? Probably because he was too neo-Nazi for neo-Nazi. He was indicted in 2006 on federal charges of orchestrating violent attacks on non-white citizens in Salt Lake City between the years 2002 and 2003. That's too neo-Nazi. Yeah. Yeah. He was sentenced to 87 months in prison, but released in 2009 and is since relocated

to Canada. And now he's one of the 250 names on the signature for the People's Party of Canada. All right. All right. He's too great. He's a bolt G who is a founding member of the Canada chapter of Pegida, the white supremacist anti-Islam organization. All right.

That's another, that's only two strikes though. I'm sure you can't find a third. Then there was Justin L. Smith, who is a former member of the Soldiers of Odin, a Finland-based white supremacist group some might describe as not being too far off from racist vigilantes. Smith claimed that he was part of that group, quote, quite a long time ago. But then the Sudsbury star reported that he was identified as the president of the Sudbury chapter as recently as September 2017, which I guess is technically still before he signed the petition as a member of the People's Party, but not by very much.

No. No. Anyway. Okay. So that is three strikes. Now I have decided to change the rules. Four strikes. It requires four strikes in order to.

I don't care about your rules. That's why people are throwing around words like neo-nazi when talking about this candidate. Cause he is. It's because he needed to find 250 party members to sign a petition and weirdly at least three of the people he found are super fucked up white supremacist fascists. So I feel like that is a bad sign. Yeah. If you, uh, if you wander into a rally and you turn to your left and you turn to your

right and there are a lot of Nazis around and you stick around, yeah, you're a Nazi buddy. Yeah. It's really weird. Um, these are classical liberals that are coming out. Oh, I'm sorry. They, I forgot to say classical liberal. Right.

I apologize for. It's weird. The intense interest. They're fucking a political party. That's what I would say. Well, I mean, Dave Rubin had him on the Rubin report to do an interview, this bernier, and then he also went to Canada to do a like fundraiser event for him. Like it's very interesting to see like these, these, uh, ding dons neo-nazis over here who

are, you know, these, these propagandists on the right, very interested in, uh, in him and he also has, you know, neo-nazis and his founding party members. Well, it's just that they want to create a global association of, uh, you know, right wing, uh, nationalist classical liberals, uh, in order to control the world. It makes sense. A global group of them, right. An alliance of the West, if you will. Seems like a good idea.

Yeah. So anyway, Alex, uh, gets back to talking about how the time for rhetoric is over. He wants Trump to act. I feel like it's still time for rhetoric. And I think we really can't just sit here and hope Trump's going to do anything. Maybe it's, it's going to come. We've seen a little bit of action. We've seen some really good rhetoric.

Have we? But rhetoric hasn't stopped Silicon Valley and their Chai-Com operatives from pressing the attack. It's actually made them dig their heels in, made them put on more steam, it's had them really buck up. So, uh, I'd like to meet the enemy. I'd like to start politically pulling their teeth out with pliers. I don't mind the pain myself.

I just like to get my legs back in. And what I don't want to hear is Brad Parscale's talking about dynasties. Talk about dynasties after we defeated the globalists. You can have your dynasties. But you're either going to get dynasty or destruction. So Alex is totally fine with the idea of Trump and his family having like, uh, sort of, uh, you know, just, uh, their family is a political dynasty. You get generational rule from Trump's.

As long as we defeat my chosen enemies, these globalists, you can have a kingdom. Explain to me what could be more American than creating a dynasty of fascist leaders who have total and infinite power and transfer that power and transfer that power down a lineage. I don't see anything wrong with that. I don't see anything un-American about that. Lock up political enemies, create intense, uh, propaganda about xenophobic, uh, concerns sure.

Dog whistle aggressively about vulnerable populations, uh, also, uh, seem to wish to control media and, uh, wish to punish people who, uh, uh, report things that are American. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What Alex is calling for is just, I want my dictatorship.

Yep. I don't want, I want my imaginary enemies to be vanquished and when you do that, you get to be king. I don't give a fuck. We'll live under this white tyranny, but I don't want this multicultural tyranny. Uh-uh. That's at the, at the bottom of it, that's all he is, is like showing. He's revealing that that's fine with him.

Yeah. No, it's, it's the, it's the white nationalists are, are like in this place of, well, then I'm taking my ball and going home. Like that. Oh, fine. You think, you think we're going to add multiculturalism to this democracy? That's not what it's supposed to be about. So I'm going to get rid of democracy and we're going to have white tyranny.

How do you like that? I'm taking my ball and I'm fucking going home. We tried with the democracy and then you guys got rights or whatever it was. It's, it's so clear. I mean, you've seen how like in the more present days, Alex is completely abandoned. Those ideas about like posse comitatus being so important. Let him run everything. Yeah.

It's just, you know, it's all the, the mask is slipped and you see exactly what he stands for. Everything else before was pretend and white identity guy. So Alex gets to complaining about Phil mud, uh, the former CIA guy who went on MSNBC. You're whatever said that the spies are going to kill the president. Sure. Sure. Sure.

Um, he was obviously talking in an embellishment, uh, but Alex has taken that as a serious death threat against, uh, Trump. And so that's one of his only go to examples of people actually being like, uh, they're going to kill the president. It always brings up fucking Phil mud. Right. And, uh, he talks a little bit about him in this next clip and I have bad news. He's just making shit up.

Phil Mudd's great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great grandfather out of Virginia reportedly helped kill Lincoln to the name became known as mud. Sure. That's where that comes from. Does it? Your name will be mud was a pun in the newspapers at the time and the progeny of mud, Dr. Mudd says they're going to kill the president and kill us supporters. Oh, his name is mud.

His name is Dr. Mud. Thank you very much, Dan. Well, that is, I mean, the doctor, Dr. Mudd's a real person, but like, there's a thing that Alex talks about a lot, how Phil Mudd's ancestor was accused of being involved in the Lincoln assassination. And that's where the expression his name is mud comes from. This goes back to Dr. Samuel Mudd, who was the doctor who attended to John Wilkes Booth's injuries after the assassination.

But the jury is still out about whether or not he was in any way involved in the crime. There's a pretty high chance that he was just a doctor who treated a patient not knowing what they had just done. It's unclear. He may, he very well might have been involved or be aware of what he was doing. Yeah, who knows, regardless. This man being the source of the term, his name is mud is absolutely not true. Lincoln was assassinated in 1865 and people who study idioms and linguistics have traced

the expression, his name is mud, at least as far back as an 1823 book from Britain called Addictionary of the Turf, which includes the line, quote, trans exclusionary reaction. No, never mind. It's spelled differently. Okay. It includes the line, quote, mud, a stupid twaddling fellow. And his name is mud. The expression almost certainly even predates that passage, but that's one of the earliest

definitive written published sources, 1823, long before the assassination. And I imagine that the comparison to like the pun on it being mud itself is something that linguistically can be traced back into other languages as well. Like everybody has been like, that guy is like shit. And that's essentially what mud is, you know, that's different, right? You wouldn't be able to draw that as like the same idiom, but, but this one traces at least back to this. I'm just saying it's not necessarily an original pun is my point, but I understand what you're

saying. And I agree with you, but it wouldn't help with the mud situation because it's specifically what Alex is talking about. Understood. But this version of the story that Alex is telling about the root of this idiom, the one that gets passed around by a lot of sort, the people who just don't hear things and just repeat them without checking in on them. They love this one.

Of course. But in particular, I remember this being a story that's told in the movie, National Treasure Book of Secrets by Nick Cage's character, Benjamin Franklin Gates. I have a very strong suspicion that that's where Alex got the story from. He watched National Treasure and is like, Hey, that's where my name is mud came from. Look, it's a very good Nicholas Cage performance. It's very good. I believe, I believe he believed that I am a fan of the National Treasure movies.

Are you? Yes. Like for real? Yeah. Like unironically straight up. I haven't watched it in years. Yeah. But I watched the first one so many times when I was younger in the movie theater.

I think I might have worked at the theater when it came out, but I just thought it was so over the top and ridiculous. Fantastic. It's a well done story. And Nicholas Cage is awesome. Yeah. And I like movies where it's sort of an adventure, you know, you got this historical revision aspect to it.

Yeah, Nicholas Cage is Indiana Jones, but you know, I'm going to steal the declaration of independence. I know God. That's such a great line. Awesome. That's so good. As good. But still fine.

I don't accept the increased part for what's his dumb face at Harris was in it. No. John boy. Yeah. John boy was in the first one. He was in the first one, but he got a lot more screen time in the second. Fair enough. Yeah.

I still pissed. They didn't make a third one. Yeah. What would, what would your title for that have been? I don't know, but I did come up with a plot for it. And that is that there's something a clue to a treasure or something that's buried in Arlington Cemetery in the place where presidents are buried. So in order to get the clue, he has to become the president and then fake his own death

in order to get buried in Arlington Cemetery to find the clue that I don't know. It involved aliens. I don't remember all the plot, but I'm going to bury the president. Sure. But it's me. So anyway, I'm pretty sure that that's where Alex got this from. He gets everything from movies and this is a, like that seems like a kind of movie he might like.

Oh, absolutely. And, uh, it's an absolutely not true thing that is in that movie. So as for Phil Mudd being the great, great, great, great, great grandson of Samuel Mudd, that might be true. I have no idea. Uh, I can't really find this out since Phil's a pretty private dude about his family and there really isn't any information available, but is that true or lineage still doesn't matter either way.

Yeah. You'll hear the claim reported over and over again on message boards and tweets, but there's no sourcing for it ever. And even if it is true, who cares? Alex should care exactly zero about this. His ancestors fought for the Confederacy. So he should be all about the doctor who stitched up the guy who killed Lincoln, whether or not he was in on the plan.

Well, you know, ever since, uh, Jefferson Davis got impeached, he's got very little. He's got some strange feelings on that subject. The bottom line here is that Alex is 100% wrong about the expression. His name is Mudd. And he's likely taking his information from a historical fiction movie where a guy goes hunting for treasures that the Knights Templar hid around the world. He's further just making up that he knows that Phil Mudd is related to Samuel Mudd because they have the same last name.

Yeah. This is the level of shit that he brings to the table. Well, you know, everybody, everybody's last name, Smith is a related to John Smith, the famous guy who, you know, Pocahontas and et cetera. Sure. Yeah. So Alex is wrong about all this stuff, right? But he uses this idea about Phil Mudd, uh, in order to justify what he thinks he gets

to do now. Well, when you start getting talked like that from people like him, kind of changes the rules of engagement a little bit, doesn't it? No. And that doesn't mean we're going to go out and do anything violent. Yes, it does. It just means we know who we're dealing with now. So we're starting to have to think about how we guard ourselves for true, um, guard yourself

for real, kind of opens up those parts of the brain and everybody tries to keep back in the warehouse under curtains, under sheets, hooked up in those crates. Are we around to fucking campfire right now? People aren't scared of violence or war. They like it. And little boys like Muddy, who never actually did anything like that is a fool. Well, who's a greater fool? Those that don't know history or those that do know history and then let it repeat.

Alex seems to imply that he knows history. And I would remind you that he thinks that, uh, all these fake Thomas Jefferson quotes are real. Yeah. He believes that his name is mud comes from this based on a fucking Nick Cage movie. I would say what's worse is him. He is worse. Yeah.

Alex is worse. Yeah. That's the definite answer. Yeah. Yeah. So we, we've had earlier, like Alex saying that as long as he takes out the globalists, Trump is totally fine to have a dynasty. Yeah.

Great. Sure. That seems to be against literally everything you stand for. Ever. Um, and in this next clip, I think that this is like why, um, you need to these next two clips, I would say, are like, you need to still pay attention to Alex in the present day, like you and I, at least, um, and that is this first clip. He sort of let slip some very white identity ideas.

God hates cowards and if you'll sit there and let these people have their way with your culture and your very genetics, then you've made the decision to be caught off from God and to be damned. So your, your culture and your very genetics, playing that song underneath that speech should be a crime. Yeah. That should be against the law. Yeah.

If you never see the light of day, you'll do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do. Jaunty ass carnival ass music. Yeah. What are we doing? Fucking, I'm going to give you a nightmarish hellscape speech with Devo playing behind me. I think that's enough from context and Alex's like entire worldview and rhetoric that when

he's talking about your culture and your very genetics, he's talking about white. He's talking about white identity. Yep. Like that's what he, like, so that's really fucked up. And then it gets even more fucked up in this next clip. In terms of, uh, the fact that, you know, he's in danger if he doesn't start using his bully pulpit and declare a national state of emergency and suspend Congress and arrest them.

These usurpers, these fraudsters, these liars and cheaters, if he doesn't get aggressive and take the, uh, the offense and deal with them and arrest them, he could be taken down entirely. His life is, is it safe? He's like, he's created a space and a show where callers call in and advocate for Trump's suspending Congress. That's crazy. And just basically be like, fuck it, I'm going to do all this dictator shit.

He's done such a poor job of teaching his audience anything about civics, anything about the reality of the, uh, things that he, he advocates for, you know, like anything, um, that everything that he talks about is so superficial and so stupid and so based on nothing that he has just a bunch of radicalized listeners who think they're anti tyranny and simultaneously think Trump should suspend Congress to arrest his political enemies, right? The usurpers. I'm going to go to, uh, I'm going to go to the secretary of, uh, history over here.

Whenever somebody has said we must destroy the Republic to save the Republic, has it historically gone well? I know that there is one great literary historical source, uh, by Nicholas K. George Lucas. George Lucas. That's right. There it was. There it was. Yeah.

Um, yeah, this is no good. This is no good. When, uh, when you have this being parroted to, uh, uh, to back from your audience, you have failed. I mean, just, just engaging with what the, what she just said is like, lady, do you, have you, like, why do you even live here? If you hate America that much, she doesn't hate America. She hates the usurpers.

No, she really hates America. She hates the usurpers. She loves what America stands for, which is whiteness and really don't think so. So in this next clip, Alex said something, this is the closest I've ever been to thinking he was about to talk about us. So I thought, I thought for sure that really does sound like us. Yeah. It could be like, uh, it's finally time for him to hit the button.

Yeah. But it's not, he doesn't end up talking about us, uh, but I actually, I honestly don't know what that's about. Like by the not play a clip after that by the end of the episode, he hasn't made it clear what this is about. But I think it's about him believing that some movies are coming out on maybe on Netflix. I don't know that might have something to do with framing Alex for causing violent attacks or something.

Right. Okay. I don't know. He's very nonspecific about it, but I think that's what it's in reference to, right? Some movie that might be in production that might be framing Alex. That makes far more sense than him talking about a very real thing. So yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Unfortunately it got my heart racing. Yeah. It's time. Oh, come on. Yeah. The guns are drawn, but alas, it's not to be. So Alex gets another dumb caller and this guy is into QAnon.

You can tell what you pay attention. Oh, I agree. I agree. I think this is going to be a great awakening for the American people who are living in their bubbles and they're seeing an MSNBC concubine. It's going to be like, wow, this is actually happening. So you got the great awakening language. Did he say concubine?

I think he did. It might have meant enclaves. But he's, you know, he's said the great awakening, which is a key phrase for QAnon, and then also this idea of everybody who watches the mainstream media are going to have this terrifying moment because they've been in their concubines or whatever. Sure, sure, sure. It's going to be a real like wake up of it. Oh no, it's all real.

Yeah. Those are both big themes. Man, those days are just not coming, man. I am so sorry. I'm very curious to see if he's going to move quickly on the 28,000 field indictments that he has. I mean, that's 27,000 more indictments than Obama had that were sealed. I think there could be like a real, deep state move that he has to make.

I mean, this deep state's been in since the 1930s and we sold our country out to the Federal Reserve and the central bank. Three senators. Absolutely. Yeah. And that the sealed indictment stuff, that's all the QAnon shit too. Like this guy is just spouting straight up Q shit. Alex doesn't even realize or doesn't care because he kind of wants to co-op that a little.

He said the 28,000. He said the seal indictment. I don't think he's used that high of a number where he has talked about like McKay, but being secretly indicted and all these, but earlier in the episode, Alex is saying he doesn't want to hear this kind of talk is, you know, these things keep talking about it and never comes. Yeah. So Alex is poorly prepared on this episode because it's an episode of his show, very

poorly prepared. But that doesn't stop him because it's a day of the week that doesn't stop him from talking about how he's prepares too well. I don't think so. Man, I had the tendency to get really prepared for the show and then even turn your ringer off. I may just have to host some of the war room today with Owen, but I'm so, well, no, let me do this.

Let me come back because I promise I do this and let me start getting into all these reports and all these clubs. He's in the fourth hour at this point. This is the fourth hour of his show and he's like, let me get to the news. Maybe I'll take over Owen's show because I haven't done any of the work I meant to do on my own show because I rambled about the three little fucking pigs. That is the most I have ever identified with Alex in my entire life of him being like, yeah, I think I'm going to go do this thing, but no, that seems hard.

I'm going to do that. Yeah. That's the most I'm going to go to the gym right now. I won't pass. So Alex starts playing a bunch of clips of Trump's rally the night before and one of the clips that he plays is based on Trump saying that if, if Hillary had won, China would be number one in the world right now, they'd be the greatest, the biggest economy. Sure.

And Alex talks about what the plans were. By the way, we were slated to be like the number three economy button after the EU and China now with the number one oil producer exporter. It's like flipping a light switch. We've been set up. So number one oil exporter. Great. That's not true.

Not even close. It's of course not Saudi Arabia is the top oil exporter in the world by a long by a wide margin. You could add the US's oil exports to the number two country in the world, which is Russia, and you'd still be lower than Saudi Arabia. Exports of crude oil have definitely jumped dramatically in this country since 2015. But if you're looking for someone to credit for that, Trump's not your guy. While president Obama lifted a ban on exporting crude oil that had been in place since 1975.

That ban was put in place in response to the 1973 oil crisis, where OPEC countries placed an embargo on oil sales to countries they felt were supporting Israel in the Yom Kippur war. The price of oil shot through the roof and the US decided that we needed to do whatever we could to make sure we'd have a steady supply of oil that wasn't vulnerable to those sorts of actions. And thus the export ban was put into place. Much to the chagrin of oil companies who didn't care about any of this bullshit.

They just wanted to sell their oil for the highest profit possible. And because of that, Jimmy Carter was roundly blamed and so on and so forth. When people talk about us being an exporter of oil, now a net exporter of oil, that doesn't mean that we are not still buying tons of it and importing it. It just means that big oil companies are taking the oil they dig up and refine domestically and sell some of it elsewhere. While we're also, you know, you and I, we still end up paying for imported oil. Oh yeah.

This is a shitty development, quite frankly, unless you're making money off it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So. I would say probably everything involved with fossil fuels now is a shitty development unless you're making money off of it. Yeah. So Alex gets into playing some clips of people having an argument at an abortion rally, which great.

Yeah. Super. Do you want to do man on the street interviews next? Super important, relevant, hard hitting news. I think abortion is good. I think abortion is bad. This is relevant. This is riveting radio.

Stop the presses. People are arguing at an abortion. Can't imagine. So while playing the clip, Alex starts editorializing about how one of the women who is anti-abortion is not attractive. I hate for that woman is nobody's having kids with her. If women could keep themselves from getting kids, she's probably social worker. She's going to take them back.

Good money. She's about to be a social worker. Good cash. I don't know who she is. So she's a social worker. So like he's just decided that she's a social worker. And what he's doing there is like, I don't know if she is. I don't know if she's not and I don't really care.

But he says, find out who she is. Yeah. He's asking his audience to dox this woman. Yeah. So. Cool. Yeah. Yeah.

I would caution you, Alex, against doing anything like that. Yeah. Again. It just seems like you're, you can't even help yourself. It's just how he operates. So whenever there's like these, these protestations that he's making about the Sandy Hook accusations and stuff, it's like, there's a million examples of you doing exactly the behavior you're still doing.

Yeah. The last Friday, you're like, Hey, someone find out who this girl is in this video. I'm putting out a $50,000 bounty on and it's not because you want to have a discourse with her. No, no. God Barnes just hears so much change so much more, but less money, just more advertising for the Free America Law Center.

01:32:56,320 --> 01:32:56,920 That's fair. So Alex jumps from insulting this woman at the abortion rally and then jumps over to wanting to play some videos of whites being attacked outside the Trump rally by Somalis. Really doesn't feel like that's as well. There's racist attacks going on around Trump rallies, Jordan. The whites are under attack and it's time for all good men to come to the aid of the party.

And I'm only playing this because Alex is unsuccessful in playing his clip and he's really mad. Let's start rolling what happened last night in Minneapolis, St. Paul, and in most of these were racial attacks. Here it is after the Trump rally. The compilation wouldn't turn the audio up. So again, just white people being chased down, being attacked everywhere. All of this being escalated.

I guess there's no auditors. There's just so much cussing and big piles of people's hats being taken and then being burned. And they had all these big ceremonies where they burned American flags. So we're going to come back from break with the rest of this. So big deal. I learned it with audios to just scratch it, just to board it. It's not a baby.

We don't have to play the video. That's enough. Thank you. Appreciate it. We'll take it down now. He's real mad there. I wanted it with audio, but no big deal. We're going to board it.

Why is it that every fucking time we had a clip where of him, you know, in 2013, just so furious to say, no, that's fine. No, that was in the present day. That was about that was about this trying to play the South Park clip. I thought it was on our last episode, but yeah, you're right. You know, and you know what it is. Yeah. I, if I had to give a theory, he's fired everybody that knows

how to do anything people have left. Yeah. I think that he has a crew that is not nearly as good or as smooth as it used to be, and he's pretty mad about how it's like, well, it's causing hiccups in the thing. Like I want you to play this clip. You pull the wrong clip. I can't prove it, but it would be exactly what you would see if Alex is

working with a thinned out staff or people who knew what they were doing have been like, we got to get out of here, which is exactly what I would have predicted after he doesn't, everything must go sale. Yeah. Yep. Or any of these other sales or is him saying on air, we won't exist in a year. Yeah. That's what you'd expect.

Competent people are going to leave. I'm, uh, yeah, uh, no, it's, uh, thank you for agreeing to interview me. I am, I'm a radio producer. I just had to leave my old job. What was my old job? You know, let's not talk about that. Okay. So there is a, it looks like there's a 12 year gap on my resume.

It looks like that you would, you would rather pretend that you worked for Lord hall, hall, as opposed to like I worked for Alex Jones. Anyway, Alex is, I think has found a new source of revenue. I think that he's found a new sponsor because there is spaying and neutering your pets. No, I do not believe what you're about to hear is an unpaid programming. I have a very strong sense that Alex is reading copy here because he's being paid to now free speech TV is doing a lot of great work.

And I'm really excited to be able to talk about them. Yeah. McGinnis is back with his new online TV network. Oh, boy. Oh, man, to see his daily show. Get off my lawn. Wow. Find Joe Biggs, Milo, Yiannopoulos, Soph and the new show Free Speech where

Gavin interviews a liberal and a conservative. Notably not you. Uh, yeah, that really, that's like the worst, uh, Harry's razor ad you've ever heard on a podcast. That is bad. That seems like ad copy for sure. Oh yeah. Well, just the edit, edit it.

That's classic. Gavin McGinnis is back with his new great show. Get off my lawn. Like that, that's the kind of thing where Alex, you better be getting paid for that because that's, that's bad. Yeah. Yeah. It's okay.

Yeah, it makes sense. You know, Gavin's trying to rebrand himself a little bit and he wants to at least hold on to anybody who might be inclined to come along with his new adventure. Um, I don't know. It makes sense that this would be, uh, uh, add. Yeah. No, I think he got paid for that. It's, it's kind of surprising to me how obviously an ad it was.

Like I get he, I get, maybe if they were trying to do that, like, uh, content that goes in there and it's kind of like buzz marketing and it fits in there. But if you give him copy and then I like, well, just kind of fit it in wherever you want. He's an old fashioned radio dude, man. He's going to read ad copy, like fucking ad copy. And he is, he is, that's part of his blood. So I think that's a commercial, but, uh, you know,

in addition to that, as a new source of revenue, he also has the everything must go sale going on right now. And I have some bad news. The sale, the sale might get him in some trouble. Please remember we have the new everything must go sale as big as the last sale. That was our biggest since Christmas because I just want to sell out of everything, but some of these are even better sales. It's 30 to 70% off because some things are 30, but the sign says 40 to 70 off

free shipping, double patriot points. It's amazing. That's explicitly false advertising against the, yeah. It's 40 to 70% off, but some of it's 30. No, then it's not 40 to 70%. I didn't check the website to see if there's like fine print or anything on the, on the big banner that says 40 to 70% off. But if you're advertising 40 to 70% off everything and some things are 30% off,

that's a misleading advertising. Yeah. Fucking nobody's coming after it for now. Certainly not. Much like the churches. Yeah. No one's coming after him. He can get away with that.

And I honestly think you would have to buy something from him, uh, to have standing to complete, I don't know, whatever he'd have to pay for that violation is pretty small, but it's just an, you know, it's just dishonest. It's, which is part of the course. So Alex finishes off the show with a couple more calls. So he's trying to take pretty quick, trying to get some calls in cause he realizes he's only juice before you get out of there. He's only talked to a couple of people and he was pretending he was going to

spend all day taking calls. Right. Right. Um, and this first guy is absolutely 100% a member of Christian identity. Hi Alex. I really appreciate your appetite for action today. Um, the ancient American scripture, uh, clearly states that, uh, the son of the living God, Jesus Christ of Nazareth is the God of this land.

And he authored our constitution for these United States, um, through many raised up for that purpose. Uh, he gave us all the tools necessary in the constitution to restore the republic. Yeah. So that's a Christian identity, dude. Yeah. You know, look, those people need to be kept in a pen. Like that's, that's what's got, that's, that's bananas.

I'm not, uh, I'm not, I'm not siding with you on that for a while while they get to, I don't know, man. I don't know what the answer is. Wild, you know, your, your knee jerk reaction of like, you've got to reeducate people or something. I know, I know that that's not necessarily a good solution, but I don't know what the solution is. I'm opposed to your solution, but I don't have a good, I mean, I, the only thing

that I've got is cult deprogramming beyond that. I, I mean, you know, you, you would hope that individually this would be able to be handled by loved ones of folks that like you're going down this path, probably also you're going down this path where you believe that the Bible is an ancient American scripture. Yeah. We need to talk. Yeah.

You'd hope that that people, a lot of people don't have the support networks that are able to, to help with this. What if we just gave him Florida? Like just give it to him. That's not an answer. I feel like that's, it's better than the pen. Steve Pachanik will lead a war against these invading Christian identity people if they try and come down to Florida.

I'm fine with that. So we get one last call here. And what do you know? It's another guy trying to promote Maxime Bernier. Yeah, man. I'm sure the Russians here, not sure if impeachment is inevitable, but at the vein of 1736 worldwide and how Maxime Bernier is a lover of all races, lover of the human race, populist, nationalist, candid up, up in Canada.

Don't need to say it. It's true. If he wins up a good pressure on development of the United States and the international fierce fight for freedom, I could call back. Obviously, you know, they did. No, I'm glad Canada's fired up. We've got a big election coming up. Everybody in the U S should call folks in Canada and tell them vote for the

Patriot candidate. Okay. So now Alex is promoting this guy. He doesn't even know anything about that's bananas, except a couple of callers have called him a classical liberal. Well, two callers called him a classical right. So we got to get him in. So he's the new, uh, Geert Wilders or, uh, um, LePen or Bolsonaro as far as an

unofficial poll, that is 100% in favor of totally. So how can you, it's the will of the people. We've got to get Canada's Trump in there. Yep. So I think that's really interesting the way that this is now seeming to be, um, a pushed on Alex's show. Yeah. I know that he doesn't necessarily control the callers or anything, but you

got to assume that like, if there is this much representation of the people who call into his show that are specifically calling in to try and get the message out about, uh, Bernier, then that means something. They know that he might be somebody that appeals to the info wars audience. And that to me is not a good sign that, uh, yeah, yeah, that lets you know everything you need to know. If you're courting the info wars audience, that's all I need to hear about. It means to me, I got a red flag on this guy.

I'm going to put a big red flag up there. I'm going to be worried about it. I think that's a flag factory that only makes red flags. Yeah. So I mean, we get to the end of this. And like, uh, like I said earlier, I wanted to try and cover more ground. I wanted to try and cover a couple episodes, but Sunday, Mike Adams host. Bo, uh, so like get out.

Fuck off. And then I turned on Monday's show and I was listening to it and it was very clear that the whole thing was going to be about James O'Keeffe's new stunt. Oh, no. Which how is he still in? Right. I had that, I had that same response. It's like, I can't spend more time doing another one of these.

Yeah, I'm not doing it. Like it's just, he's entered that sort of rarefied air of like Jacob wall lives there where it's just like, he's talking. He means he's talking shit. Yeah. Don't worry about his stupid distractions. We've done this a hundred times. And so when, when Alex is talking about like, I'm going to talk to James O'Keeffe

for two hours today, like I'm not listening to that. Yeah. And then his other big thing was about that meme of Trump. Oh, whenever he's a, they had him cutting off people's heads from Kingsman. Yeah. Yeah. And Alex's whole like defense about that is, it's a meme. I don't really care.

I don't engage with that. Whatever. And then the other one is like, it's like a year old. And like, well, that doesn't really address the fact that this was played in an official recently. Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's just, who cares?

I'm not going to descend to the level of bickering about memes with Alex. So I just, I heard that. I saved that for Carpe, dunked him. Sure. I heard that and I was like, I don't, I don't care. I'm not, I don't care about this Monday episode. It's very, it was very bad. And at the same time, I think that this one's much more interesting.

Alex isn't a completely fucked up state. He talks a bunch of nonsense. Oh yeah. And then at the same time, you hear like these real, like actual things that are troubling, you know, it's fine if Trump has a dynasty, callers advocating that Trump, uh, uh, suspend Congress. And that just flies on the show. And, uh, advocating, uh, the election of this Canadian guy that he knows nothing

about, there's real world trouble here, uh, mixed in with the insanity of the three little pigs, lackadaisical, uh, unprofessional laziness, uh, combined with a certain mood swing down that's saying, we got to kill people. You got, we can't, we can't do work. Wait, no, he said, we can't do rhetoric anymore. You have to go further. Yeah, like that's pretty much same. It's debatable whether he's talking about Trump or other people when he's making

those sorts of messages. That's fair. So if he's talking specifically about Trump, then you could conceivably think that what he means is executive orders, legislation or whatever. I know that he's not. And that's not the message he wants his audience to hear that you could use that as a defense. I, I, I can see that for sure.

But, but that's, that's like a, it's weird if it, sometimes it seems like just his mood swings are enough to get people killed. Like just to the, the inability to, to handle any kind of adversity at all. And it's, it's good that it seems like it doesn't happen regularly. Yeah. No, that's nice. But yeah, his mood swings do absolutely dictate the tenor and tone of this show. Yeah.

And that's like, I don't know, that alone professional, that alone should kind of disqualify it for being okay. Yeah. Something that should exist. Yeah. But we'll be back on Friday, Jordan. I think we will, Dan. We'll have a new episode of something or other.

Most likely. Uh, but Intel then. What? We have a website. Do we? Yep. It's knowledgefight.com. I heard that.

That is true. I heard that. Uh, are we on Twitter? We are. Oh yeah. Yeah. At knowledge underscore fight and you're at go to bed, Jordan. And I'm pretty sure we're on Facebook.

Yeah, we are. And we're also, uh, word on the street is we're on iTunes. We are on iTunes. Uh, we are also wherever podcastual apps are sold. Yeah. Uh, it would be nice if you downloaded, left a review, etc. Tell your friends about it. We love having a party.

We'll be back. But until then, I'm Neo. I'm Leo. I'm DZX Clark. I am Benjamin Franklin Gates. Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. Hello, Alex.

I'm a first name caller, I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you.