Knowledge Fight - #363: October 30, 2019

Episode Date: November 1, 2019

Today, Dan and Jordan check in with the present day of the Alex Jones Show and find things taking a precipitous turn for the worse. When Alex lost his social media presence, a fear was that he would start drifting further toward more overt bigotries, and it appears that process is underway.

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Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan, I'm Jordan, we're a couple dudes like to sit around, drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Indeed we are, Dan, Jordan, Jordan, have you ever been trapped in a snowstorm? Yeah, yeah, actually I have a couple times, yeah, like, like trapped outside, not like trapped in your apartment by a lot of storm, no, never snowed in before, you've been snowed in Columbia and here I think, yeah, I mean like snowpocalypse, right, right, I recall Chicago for that, right, we were all there for snowpocalypse, there was one time there was a really terrible blizzard a number of years back and I was like real fucking in

the dumps, I wanted to get out of the house and a good buddy, Nate Burroughs, he worked at a bar called, I believe it was Dukes, it was the bar that he was working at at the time and you know, it's like everyone snowed in, he's at the bar, all of the buddies are going over there to just drink, hell yeah, you get snowed in at a bar, it's perfect, it's the best place to be snowed in, I feel like it was the day of the Super Bowl too, sure, I think it might be mixing up some memories, but anyway, he's like, come on, come to the bar, it'll be great, and so I'm like, yeah, that's it, I'll get stuck there, yeah, that's better than, that'll solve problems, and so I took like five steps outside and

I'm like, no fucking way, I made it like, nah, there's my back inside and I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't mind the idea of getting snowed in, you're mentioning this because we're having our first real snow of the season here in the Chicago land area, indeed we are, the kind where the, it is, it is, the leaves haven't fallen off though, so all the trees that were like 20 feet tall are now five feet tall, there's a nice view out my window, just a tree covered in snow, it's very idyllic, I don't know, I don't know, it looks like a tea box, a box of tea bags, just some sort of celestial seasonings ass tableau out the window, it looks, it looks to me a little bit like there should be teenagers

throwing snowballs out there before they go fight in World War One, like it's that kind of old timey snow, yeah, I was out, I met up with a friend last night for a drink and I got a Uber because I was running late, Lyft, excuse me, and the guy was talking about, dare not speak its name, the guy was telling me about how like it's going to snow tomorrow, and I realized I'm so out of touch with like weather and the world, you're like one of these millennials talking about weather with, I hadn't heard that that was happening, and I realized like almost immediately like, who cares, yeah, I could snow an inch, it could snow a foot, it does not affect me at all, I have some food in my house, yeah, it's very strange,

very strange, anyway, I don't have to be concerned about snow that much, given my normal lifestyle now, but I do have to be concerned about Alex Jones, yeah, and I guess I have to be concerned about both, yeah a little bit, yeah, so Jordan today, we got an interesting glimpse, looking into the present day of Alex Jones, let's do it, we have been talking about time travelers in the past, time traveling ourselves this week, indeed, and we've not checked in on what Alex's dumb ass is up to, so, I assume he's protecting dead spin writers, that's all he's doing right, free speech, yeah free speech, that's what it's about, curiously absent from his coverage, doesn't seem to care at all, we're going over October 30th, 2019, I wanted to cover a wider span of time, but it's just not

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increasingly and consistently calling his enemies devils and demons, right, right, right, harkening back to the same things that happened in the early to mid 80s with like the McMartin's preschool case, and you know these things that we should have learned our lesson about, which we never, ever, ever, ever will not ever, but is rhetoric and all this stuff is very the same. I think it's important to make a note of it that this is a lot of the stuff he's doing, but I don't know how important it is to really like dwell in it repeatedly. I mean, I think I can sum it up usually with just hey, you know those marginalized groups. Not only should they remain marginalized, but it's their fault. They're marginalized, and we should marginalize them further and they're

Satan. Yes, exactly. So that's kind of what's going on on the 29th, and I'm keeping an eye on it, and as it develops, if there's a change in an escalation that I see, I still think it's worthwhile to point out, but I believe that the 30th is actually far more relevant to trends that we are seeing in Alex's show that are much scarier. Okay. And so what we get over the course of this episode is some pretty, pretty fucked up white nationalism, which is not too surprising. Just us in the room now, guys. It's just you and us. You see some things happening on this episode that I think are exactly what you'd predict would happen on Alex's show, exactly the direction he's been going in for a while, but you still really don't like to see it happening. So we're going to start here

in this first clip. Alex is talking about he's addressing these new clips that have come out of Barack Obama saying that, hey, you know, wokeness isn't advocacy. Oh, boy, here we go. Here we go. No, no, no. Yeah, he barely talks about that. Okay, I'm sorry. Never mind. You're right. I should have. I should have assumed that it would be completely different because there's also a clip of Michelle Obama that's come out. Okay, there we go. Yeah, much rather. Yeah, always always attack a black woman over anyone else. That is the rule of the right. So here is the first clip about that talking about these clips from the Obamas and they're also telling you that we're on the verge of a global race war because white people are inherently

evil and bad, but everyone's trying to get into countries founded and that were run by the dreaded white people. Very interesting. In fact, here's Obama telling us that wokeness is not activism. And then maybe he hasn't heard his wife's outdoing spewing some of the biggest black KKK stuff you've ever heard. Yeah, sure. Sure. Obama talking about families being the same, whether they're immigrants or right, right, right. That's the very KKK language. Black KKK. Cool. Is he talking about the one where she's like white people moved away from black people? Yeah, yeah, yeah, because that was literally like white people moved away from black people, right? And then they made it against the law to move closer to them. Studies have been done about self segregation and the phenomenon that

happens. It's not unique to white people. No, no, no, no, absolutely. But on a macro scale in terms of the way that society and cities have readjusted, a lot of it is white flags. Oh, yeah, yeah. But, you know, saying that the countries are founded by white people is a little disingenuous. Oh, well, because white always has been an exclusionary label. Yeah, the the idea of whiteness has always been used to keep people out. And the ways that that label was applied in, let's say the late 1700s, is certainly different than it is today. Yeah, concepts of whiteness have evolved as they are more or less useful to the people wielding those ideas, right, right, right. So it's kind of silly to say that. Well, these countries were founded by white people where they founded by Protestant

white people or Catholic white people because they used to kill each other all the time where they founded by the Irish or where they founded by the Italians because they used to kill each other all the time. They certainly weren't considered white. Exactly. Even later periods of America's history. No, it seems like the white is a term that includes as the exclusionary group changes. Yeah, and whatever you need it to be, that's what it is. And so it's always a little bit disingenuous to have these like, everyone wants to get into these countries founded by white people. All right, whatever. Anyway, he's mad at Michelle Obama because she's black KKK. Sure. We're no different than the immigrant families that are moving in the families in Pilsen, the families

that are coming from other places to try to do better. But because we can so easily wash over who we really were because of the color of our skin, you know, because of the the texture of our hair, you know, that's what divides countries artificially as well. Artificial things that artificial borders divides countries. No, you're bringing all the world with no skills and treating them to hate America and putting them on welfare to control them. That's the truth, Michelle. That's what you're pushing is a anti white, anti American agenda. And everybody knows what you're up to. You evil witch, unbelievable fraud, anti white, anti American agenda. Yeah. Interesting phrase. No, I don't see what you're I don't see any way that those two being so close

together would point to any larger issue down very over. I can't understand what you're talking very over and what you responded to is very clear to this like clear straw manning of what she's saying. Yeah, changing it into a borders. Yeah, shut the fuck up. Yeah. So you see this in the beginning of the episode and it's yeah. That's how we open. Yeah. As I was listening to this, I was like, Oh, dear God, what is going to happen on this episode? This is pretty fucked up and it's not even like it's not even like it's anti American comma anti white because that means a whole difference that that means very similar things. But the fact that it's anti white then comma anti American is very much like white first. That's what's important. And then naturally

it's anti American after that. Yeah. But the thing is that like Michelle, she knows what she's doing. Michelle Obama knows what she's doing. These are some evil, evil, evil, evil, evil people. But if you go back to John D Rockefeller, the first you go back to Margaret Sanger and Planned Parenthood, their letters, the Colgate family and others are public and major universities just type in Margaret Sanger's letters. And she was given billions of dollars billions back then. That'd be hundreds of billions today. So it's not true to buy off all the black leaders in the black colleges,

the Christians had set up, they hijacked them. And man, what you see that's been done to the black people is the plan for everybody. So you can look at the mess the black communities in and be threatened by it and be angry at it and hear the black folks saying racist things to you because they're brainwashed and get mad at them. But how about we're smart enough to really know the full game plan and not buy into this race war crap? How about we do that? Because the whole thing is a setup. You could easily hear this very similar rhetoric being used as anti-civil rights era rhetoric. This, these, these black people who want to be able to eat at the same counter as me and as whites, they're just, they don't know. We're above that kind of whatever it is

they're doing. You know, you and I, the whites, we're above that. We're not going to get down in the dirty with all the jazz music. Yeah. I mean, we've talked about the Margaret Sanger shit in the past a number of times. It's all just horse shit, but billions of dollars to hundreds of billions of dollars. Margaret Sanger with hundreds of billions of dollars. But they needed to pay her to come in and co-opt all this stuff with money because the Christian whites, they would not be corruptible like that. They set up these things to help empower people, but they are all susceptible to billions of dollars of payoff by the evil genocidal Margaret Sanger. Anyway, Alex starts rambling some more about how like him and his buddies, like they have this

supernatural connection with each other, right? And that's what the enemy is jealous of. Okay. But once you get the big agenda, everybody's on the same level because you're seeing the same thing. People say, how does Trump say the same thing you say like an hour later? And how, how, I mean, because I've had the New York Times call up and they've been on, you tweeted this five minutes for a speech. And then he said exactly what you said he'd say during the speech. And I said, where's the impotico? And that globalist looks at me and he just shook his head because they know how stuff works. And they're mad that we've got a sixth sense way more powerful than them. Because when you serve evil, you lose the gifts God's given you. You get Satan's little twisted

gifts, but you lose the literal superpowers that God's given us. So the superpowers are literal. Right. Good to know. Which ones? Super six cents. Super six cents. All right. So I'll pass on that. I'm willingly giving that one up. Oh, no. Yeah. Yeah. I don't even, I'm not even going to join Satan. I'm just going to let that one go. Okay. What next? What am I missing out on? Magnesis because I don't give a shit. If I can tell you what Trump is going to say five minutes before he says, yeah, that's a bad, I don't need a sixth sense for that shit. No, I would rather Bruce Willis be dead. I preemptively no dumb thing. Yeah, exactly. Oh, I know what a white racist is going to say. Yeah, I would. I mean, if it was telekinesis or flying, I'd take it. Oh,

hell yeah. I'll believe in any God that lets me fly, but predicting this sort of bullshit. No, not great. Not worth it, but it's interesting because Alex does believe it's a superpower. Right. He's talking about that in terms of like, once you know the big agenda and that's continuation of his thoughts about Margaret Sanger and this eugenics plan that the globalists have. Once you see all that, you see it all. Yeah. Yeah. Then you get superpowers that God gives you. Right. Right. Right. Giving you the ability to talk about demographic demographic replacements lately before another guy does great superpowers. So then it's like, you know, like we have these superpowers and then Satan gives like false superpowers. Oh, like what?

But everybody has gifts. All right. Oh man. I wish I was high for this. Now this is really interesting because I would argue that the things that he's talking about here, none of them are gifts. Okay. I'll explain the other side. And by the way, we're all created equal in God's eyes. I agree with the Declaration of Independence, but we're not all equal in our skills and what gifts we were given. I don't have the gift of being a long distance runner, but I do have the gift of fortitude and focus and the gifts that nobody's ever knocked me out, including getting hit in the head with a lead pipe ax handles. You name it. So we've all got different gifts. Ladies and gentlemen, I do not believe that those are gifts.

I also filed that under Alex's head trauma. I have the gift of a very thick skull or just such a fucking familiarity with head trauma that it doesn't even it bounces off me now. I have been acclimated to head abuse. My brain is even smaller than it was before. Even if you believe what he's saying or true stories, I've been hit with the lead pipe, that's not a gift. It's not a gift. Also, long distance running isn't necessarily a gift either. That's something you work on right practice. I could get much better at long distance running than I am right now. If I applied myself to it, that's not necessarily a gift. Maybe some people are just like by their their physical like we all have different bodies that we're born in.

Yeah, and some are maybe more conducive towards running than others. Right, right, right, but Michael Phelps clearly has some sort of proportions that make him swim good. Exactly. Whatever. Yeah, right. He wouldn't swim as well as he does now if he hadn't trained. I know he had the gift of swimming dad. Whatever. It's it's it's a discounting of the process. Yeah, and just pretending it's a gift. Now the other thing that I would say about this is Alex does not have fortitude nor does he have focus the both of those saying focus is infuriating. Yeah, I would I would say that those are maybe his week suits. Yeah, the fact that he even said focus readings a week suit that requires focus. You you I don't even allow the breeding on the list. Sure

that's that's too far away. I could I could I would also say that those are practiced behaviors too. Oh yeah, like focus is something you can get better at if you apply yourself fortitude and even take drugs for it fortitude is another thing, you know, like having the strength of conviction and will is something that you can get better at by making brave decisions. I think he's only talking about fortitude in the sense that he can take a blow. I think that's mainly his idea of fortitude might be based on where he goes with it. Yeah, like pipes and ax handles hitting him in the head. Yeah, yikes that he has to have a really good saving throw to make it through that without getting a concussion ridiculous ridiculous. So this attack on

Michelle Obama is like unnecessary and stupid. Yeah, and it's being couched in a lot of like very wide identity ways. Sure. It is absolutely a reflection of some sort of an insecurity that he feels about this very powerful popular black woman speaking the way that she is in public. Yeah, when she talks he might as well just screech strong black woman and then hide in the fucking corner or whatever. There is something to that you can hear that and feel it from his response. And because he's very stupid and he lacks fortitude and he lacks focus right and he has been hitting the head with a lead pipe a lot. The only way he can really experience this and move forward is to make personal bigoted attacks. Yeah, there we go on Michelle. We're going to talk about

the real rabbit hole next segment and play some of these clips from Kanye and then that wicked devil Michelle Obama. I don't know that linebacker of a wife. It's got that big roll of silver dollars in her pants. We're going to be talking about Mrs. Wokey Woke. So it's this is going to descend a little bit into him implying that Michelle Obama is secretly a man which is something that he's been wishy washy about over the years covering it talking about it a bunch and then being like hey we're just joking. We're just joking just joking around and then doing serious special reports about it. I think I saw her with she's a man. Yeah, so it's it's disgraceful. It's disgusting and very dumb. Yeah, and we'll

we'll see a little bit more of it as this episode goes along. But Alex has to reveal a big special report that he has made. No, no, no, no, no accents. No, okay. There is that. But I told you I read it. I'm not covering that anymore. Okay. It's still happening. Jesus Christ. Don't worry about it. Okay. There's a new special report finally. Finally. Yes. Addressing the age old question about flat earth. Now I want to be completely clear. I do not believe the earth is flat. But because the people have been lied to so much and they know they've been lied to now, you know, most people don't know what's true and they've done internal polls and national surveys. Hell, I spent $20,000 a few months ago doing one. What are some legal issues to find out

exactly what was going on? It's what we thought. And about 40% of people now officially question whether the earth's flat or something else. I don't know if he's saying you spent $20,000 on a flat earth poll or if it's a different poll, like a Sandy Hook related public opinion poll. I don't know for some legal issues and it's what he thought they were. The legal issues leads me to believe that it has to be related. It has to be related to Sandy Hook, but you can't do a poll about legal issues. The law isn't a popular opinion. Well, but you could help you. It could help guide your like how you would behave in the press by the court of public opinion. That's fair. It could lead you to see like, all right, what is okay for me to say? Yeah,

what's going to alienate literally everybody? How it would be smart for him to do some focus testing, right or get any semblance of focus. Yeah, yeah, but the way he's talking there leads you to believe that he did a fucking survey about flat earth. Yeah, which I find hilarious. That is probably not true, but based on his lack of focus and inability to convey information, it makes you think highly possible. That's what he's saying. Anyway, I don't really care about this stupid flat earth report. It's just basically about the idea that the government's lied so much that it's rational to question whether the earth is flat. Sure, sure, sure, sure, sure. And I would say the opposite is probably true. Enough people have been fed conspiracy bullshit. Yeah, so long.

Yeah, the government's lied man. Okay, I know that the government does lie and having a healthy amount of skepticism is a healthy impulse, but it's a healthy distrust as opposed to an unhealthy distrust, which is what we see manifested over the years on Alex's show, right? I don't understand in what possible sense the government is at fault for or whatever the government does has anything to do with whether or not the earth is flat. I think you need to look into flat earth theories a little bit. You'd understand what that's not. I think you need to educate yourself. I don't even need a scientist to tell me that the earth is isn't flat. You're revealing that you don't know shit. If you look over there, stuff goes down over the horizon. Yeah, very

simple off the edge of the world. It doesn't go off the edge. It's slowly got. God damn it. I don't really care about this and it's not a subject. I'm really well versed in so I don't really even want to pretend to argue for the other side of it, but I do believe that the people who believe that the earth is flat do think that the government is invested in making you think that it's round. Yeah, I can see that some reason. Sure. Sure. So that's the part of it. The government lot who gives a shit. Yeah, I don't need it. Anyway, I think Alex is just trying to reach out to flat earthers. Yeah. So cool. Good luck. I wonder if we can turn those into white nationalist easily. Yes. So in this next clip, Alex addresses the elephant in the room. The big issue and

that is Kanye West's got this new album. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. I've been waiting to really talk Kanye West on this show. I assume we're going to get into the music. We're going to get into some production elements. No, he's going to talk about the opening track being an accelerated version of it. No, he's not. Alex has gone back and forth on the subject of Kanye West, depending on how insane he's behaving at the time. He know when he's talking about slavery being a choice. Alex is like, love him. This guy makes some great points. Brilliant. Kanye is a genius. He sort of walks things back and doesn't agree to go on Alex's show. He's in the black KKK probably. Yeah. He's just controlled opposition. Yep. But now Alex has finally made

a determination and it's the Kanye West is for real. Okay. Folks asked me, they said, is Kanye West, you know, when he says, I'm going to go, Alex Jones level on you. What is he talking about? Well, I said Friday, if he comes out against the genocide of black people, particularly by Planned Parenthood, Margaret Sanger, and the Rockefeller Foundation that spent billions of dollars in 1920s, 30s, 40s numbers, that'd be hundreds of billions a day to target black people for extermination and many jurisdictions up to 70% of blacks are never born. Most dangerous place for black person on earth is in the womb. And there's this targeting going on and it's an admitted targeting and

Hillary Clinton said black men are predators. They need to be in prison. They're like dogs, bring them to heal. These are quotes. And I told TI on his podcast of millions and others, hey, quit telling me about Trump and racism all day and that dog whistle to sit there and, you know, demonize and create division when it's the Democratic party that founded the KKK. And so I said, if Kanye, he'll come out and talk about that. Well, the next day he did. So let's play where he talks about Alex Jones level and the next day he talked about now it's going viral today. Both these clips are going viral today. Got almost no attention over the weekend now. It's all over the news. So here's the two clips. So Kanye has come out

anti-abortion and Alex has decided that this is proof that he is completely for real. He's legit. Now I would or Kanye mentioned Alex Jones. And so we're going to talk about Kanye all day and I love him so much. Now it's interesting that you say that because Alex is saying that Kanye is saying he's going to go Alex Jones level. Yeah. Here's the actual clip. Man, come on, man. I ain't finna go Alex Jones level with y'all. Man, come on, man, with your like wake up. Wake up, Mr. West. Wake up culture. Wake up. Everybody think they so woke, but they follow in the rules of what woke supposed to be. We brainwashed out here, bro. Come on, man. This is a free man talking. Democrats had his vote and Democrats have food stamps for years, bro.

What are you talking about? Guns in the 80s, taking the fathers out the home, plan B, lowering our votes, making us on board our children. God should not kill. And again, that was the same shoot, but they doled it out over the next few days. They wanted to even more of it and plan parenthood and the purposeful targeting. What? That means he really is off the plantation, off the reservation. So am I. Okay, good for you. So you'll hear at the beginning of that clip, he explicitly says, I'm not going Alex Jones level. So even Kanye at the state that he's in now recognizes that Alex Jones is crazy. Yeah, I'm not going to go that wild. I am not a lunatic like Alex Jones. I am specifically saying Alex Jones is fucking

crazy. I'm using this person as an example of what I am not doing while people accuse me of having a bit of a episode. Then again, he is doing it. So yeah, he is going Alex Jones in in many a sense. It's debatable exactly what going Alex Jones level means. It's a good question. And what he means by, I don't know. I think his hair turns gold and his aura goes from red to light blue. I would suggest that I'm not particularly interested in what's going on with Kanye West. Sure. I have not listened to that new album. It's pretty good. Great. It's fine. There aren't a lot of opinions to have. I would say that I find some of the surrounding elements of this album to be contradictory. Some of the consumerist elements of this.

I find it difficult to find sincerity in someone making an album called Jesus is King. And their last album was called Jesus. And one of the songs was I am God. I am a God. I am a God. Right. Thank you very much. Hold on one moment there. And just sort of, I just, I don't know. And maybe that's just my hang up. But I find it to be like, I don't even want to dwell in this. Oh, no. I don't even I don't care. Absolutely. There's nothing to care about. Yeah. Every every if you litter it like there are zero reviews of Jesus is King that I have read that have not been like the music. Here's the review of the music. It's pretty good. Kanye's genius. And then it's been

a thousand words on how it doesn't change my opinion of con Kanye's personal or public appearance. And it's like, okay, great. Still some good tracks. I don't know what I don't know what you want. Yeah. You know, I mean, it is on one level. I guess you could look at it as like what is the brashest, like artistic move you could make. Yeah. And it's to become kind of fundamentalist. Yeah, aggressively fundamentalist. Yeah. I mean, not not even the realm of pop culture. That is kind of something that puts you in a corner. I mean, he's not going aggressively fundamentalist so much as he's going like a prosperity gospel. Like what's her face? It does feel that Paula. Paula White came. Yeah. Yeah. That's what the album is. The album is like

if Paula White came had a really, really good producer and was not married to a shitty guitarist like that's what it is. I think he's a keyboardist. What a fucking journey. Whatever is not shitty. I don't know. I don't particularly care, but it's awesome that Alex is like, all right, maybe I can get in on this. He said he said Alex Jones. Now granted, it was in a I'm not going Alex Jones, but right. It's good enough. I can weave my way into it. Yeah. So anyway, he doesn't he doesn't spend too much time on that, but I'm certain he's trying to get him on the show and I don't think it's going to work. Probably not. But Alex needs to get back to Michelle Obama. Sure. Sure. Takes a lot of time insulting her. And so he plays this short clip talking about the

like our families are the same. Just these superficial differences of skin color and hair texture. Right. All, you know, it's all nonsense as a means of division. And so Alex plays that clip again and then just starts mocking her because of the texture of our hair. You know, but oh, you love that Planned Parenthood killing tens of millions of black people. Oh, what a sick witch. I'm not kissing your ass anymore. By the way, Joan Rivers said you were a tranny. I didn't say that. I said it. Let's play Joan Rivers when we come back. And I don't think she is. I think to mess with us, she wears a big old roll of silver dollars in her pants, flopping around and rolling around like some kind of big old giant King Cobra.

That's, uh, I mean, it's a bit of a family show that we're listening to. I don't, I don't, I don't even know how to engage with that. That's too far. That's, that's too racist, too transphobic. It's just too everything. It's just beyond anything that you can engage with. You're just like, you're crazy, man. Fucking fine. If that's the nonsense you're gonna throw out. Yep. So yeah, there's a absurd and disgusting preoccupation that Alex has about this. Michelle is a man kind of thing. The only reason I think that there's any value in playing this is because when he pressed to the wall and when he needs to make like criticisms of people like Michelle, it does seem like this is the direction he airs in things that he ends up

eventually having to play off as like, ah, we're just joking around. That's where his mind goes because he's a cruel bigot. Yeah. So when he's talking about Michelle, one of the criticisms that he rises with her, uh, is about like, eh, you don't say anything about the rest of the world's problems. Sure. And I find this to be an interesting critique primarily because it's super white identity based. No. Um, and secondarily, because it's absolutely not true. And my only point is, is that Michelle wants you to think white people are inherently bad when the truth is modern civilization and the end of slavery is white people's doing because we recognize it was wrong. We have the moral authority. If you want to talk about woke, who's got authority, black people

are still selling each other in seven nations in Africa. Muslims are still selling humans in four nations in Africa. And you don't say a damn word. You evil racist, which here is this monster selling poison like a cobra biting you with evil. Here is this witch for the Rockefellers and the big money and the KKK run Democrats. Here she is. Jesus. He is angry. And that is because she said that immigrants are like us. Yeah, more or less. Yeah. Gotcha. And what he's doing here, I can be very comfortable in saying that he's expressing overt white supremacy. Oh, yeah. The first reason I can say that is this presentation that white people have a moral superiority because they ended slavery in the United States is being pushed by Alex.

This kind of mentality absolutely white washes the hard work and sacrifices of people who are in the abolitionist movement. Nope. White people on their own many with no other inspiration. Many abolitionists who they gave their lives to that fight and this, you know, presenting the ending of slavery is just being white people realizing it was wrong and deciding no more of that is very minimizing. No, it was Alex. It was Alex's ancestors who are all turned and looked at each other and they were like, guys, we got to not do this whole slavery thing for and nobody told us. We just learned on our own. This also seeks to minimize the brutal racist systems that were brought into replace slavery after he was technically abolished slavery under other names

like convict leasing programs continued for quite a while. I mean, it's not like prison labor isn't still being used exploitatively all over the place today. While these programs aren't running strictly on racial lines, they are extensions of a legal system that disproportionately affects non white Americans and to pretend otherwise is bad. There are wrong. There are inmates being used to fight fires. Yeah, right now for two dollars an hour. We're reminded of that every time there's a fire and then nothing ever is done. Yep, ever. Alex seems to think that just because slavery ended in the United States, white people did their part and everyone should just shut up about this race stuff. Leaving aside for a minute that Alex fucking hates Abraham Lincoln and that

Alex's family literally fought on the side of the Confederacy during the Civil War, who would have absolutely continued slavery if they'd gotten their way. Leave all that stuff aside. They fought on the side of the Confederacy that wanted to end slavery. You forget that that side of the Confederacy was there, right? Right. Yeah, even leaving all that aside, what Alex is saying is incredibly stupid and lacks any kind of nuanced understanding of history or the present. It also seems like one of the issues that Alex has here is that Michelle Obama dares to speak about race issues in the United States, but she won't talk about slavery related issues in African countries. Does Alex not remember how in May 2014, Michelle was very active in the bring back our girls campaign?

Does he not realize that that was about 300 young girls in Nigeria who were kidnapped, presumably to be trafficked? I understand that Alex only operates on sound bites. He gets from white identity leaning right wing publications. So you can't possibly be expected to actually know the work that someone like Michelle Obama has done, but he really should do his research before launching off on completely unhinged racist outbursts like that. I've never seen any Muslim leaders condemn Muslim terror. Nobody does it, Dan. Like maybe a good place for Alex to start would be the July 2014 speech Michelle Obama gave at the summit of the Mandela Washington Fellowship for young African leaders from that speech, quote, when girls in some places are

still being married off his children. Sometimes they even before they even reach puberty. When female genital mutilation still continues in some countries, when human trafficking, rape and domestic abuse are still too common and perpetrators are often facing no consequences for their crimes, then we still have some serious work to do in Africa and across the globe. And while I have great respect for cultural differences, I think we can all agree that practices like genital cutting, forced child marriage, domestic violence are not legitimate cultural practices. They are serious human rights violations and have no place in any country on this earth. Alex is creating a fictional version of Michelle Obama who turns

who turns a blind eye to human rights issues and slavery in African countries because she's too busy trying to demonize the white people here in America. But that doesn't match reality at all. Put simply, he's being racist as shit. Yep. It's this isn't a valid criticism. Now you could make a criticism that she maybe could do more. Yeah. If you want to have that conversation, fine. But pretend pretending that she doesn't do anything or like I want to talk about that whip. Yeah. Yeah. That's not true. And the reason you think it's not true is because you are very angry about your white identity being punctured. And what she does is in some way cast the same eye that she does to the African countries in this in this speech throughout her career

upon you and your buddies and you fucking can't handle it. Yeah. It does seem like the only people that I hear talk about how somebody is saying that white people are inherently bad are these people the people who the only people who bring it up as a straw man about what other people the conversations that other people are having and not least of which it does have some of that like weird sense of guilt trying to escape out where it's like maybe you guys are the only people who think white people are inherently bad. Well I would say because I think they kind of do don't they. And based on all of these arguments that begin with see they're saying white people are inherently bad and then goes on a litany of all the things that white people have done and

they're like oh just because we did this doesn't mean that we didn't end slavery asshole. And it's like yeah. Yeah. I don't I don't know. I don't want to comment on that because I don't I actually don't know what I think about what they think. Oh okay. I don't know. I don't I can't imagine right what their internal perceptions are because also it could be very easily explainable as like well there are criticisms coming our way that I'd rather not address or discuss in any any meaningful way. So let's create a false version of the argument to yell about for sure. That makes sense just as much as them having a deep seated feeling that they're evil. Well I mean he is his ancestor so he must know that his ancestors probably own slaves. Yeah. So he probably has

some guilt towards that. Maybe. Yeah. I don't know. I don't care. Yeah. So not only is Alex being a completely disgusting monster regarding race issues he is also pretty deep in his anti trans stuff anti LGBTQ stuff which is always at least in the present day expressed pretty solidly through conflation of people in various communities the drag queen story time stuff and and what have you. And I don't I don't care to get into too much of that because it's mostly just the same shit calling calling trans people pedophiles and that variety and I don't really care about that too much. I just want to point this out as like a really interesting example of how sloppy his fucking work is. And this is the big religion of the elite. I mean

they're really into this. You see him pushing on your kids everywhere. A man got arrested dressed up in a wig here in Austin a few days ago just an event of children and adults that did not want five year olds to be taught out of anal sex and to have it taught to them by men and men and in drag. That's pretty normal right. You don't want people talking to your kids about anal sex the park or the school or anywhere. They had to get arrested because he was just didn't want them to have their speech. So very very in California if I call him a him I get arrested. I thought I had free speech here. This is a very very dangerous point or two. So that arrest that Alex is talking about it. It appears to have nothing to do with what he's pretending it does. This is a case of

a person who is wearing a wig breaking into laundry rooms and stealing women's underwear. This as best as I can tell has nothing to do with trans issues that has nothing to do with children. It's just someone using a disguise to steal underwear from laundry rooms. Was he reading the underwear story. No. Okay. It's an invasion of these people's privacy and security and it makes sense that they arrested the thief but trying to make this a part of some sort of an anti trans narrative seems a bit pathetic to me like the guy who was setting off bombs all over Austin a while back. He wore a wig when he went to the FedEx store to mail off one of his explosives. Criminals often employ disguises to avoid detection and that seems to be what this case is.

Now I don't know because the stories I read I don't know any anything about this guy particularly but it has nothing to do with the larger narratives that Alex constantly yells about from from what I can tell. It has nothing to do with drag queen story time which he's trying to conflate in here. It's just a creep who is breaking into laundry room. No. I mean he has a problem with trans people because there were these bank robbers bunch of surfer guys really really fucking out on the edge there and they wore masks whenever they robbed break. Yeah we're talking. Okay. This guy was arrested with 57 pairs of underwear in his car. Now that's a Johnny Utah level amount of underwear there. Also you can't get arrested in California for using the wrong pronoun

for someone. The bill that was passed there that they're all lying about has to do with doctors and care providers not being allowed to willfully use discriminatory language or behaviors with their patients in assisted living facilities. Alex could absolutely misgender someone all he wants and have no consequences under the law unless that person were an elderly resident in a care center he was running. This is all just the classic right wing bullshit. It's all just straw man nonsense. Man I just you're going that hard just to be a dick to old people. That's all you really want here man. So Alex has spent a large part of the beginning of this show really being pretty white identity heavy and really screaming about Michelle Obama talking

about how she's a man. Right. Going real hard on this. You don't say anything about the black people doing shit. Which even though she does that stuff but I felt like there was an intensity to it that didn't feel that normal. You know it felt like he had the spirit in him. Yeah a little bit something else is going on and that was explained pretty easily in this next clip. I don't want to say I've gone off the rails here today just because there's a several international TV crews here today. One from the United States one from the dreaded Russians are here. That's right. So we've got national Russian television here as well. I never got to this Sunday or Monday or Tuesday. I'm going to do it today

at six after next hour. Very serious news on George Soros and where he said that he can bend the will of God and the globalists are going to crush America. Wait till I actually read these quotes to you. Oh but he's a defender of free speech and Trump and Alex Jones are hurting our free speech. Total inversion of reality. So he's back on his bullshit. Sure. The Soros Soros coming back hard. I know that anybody could make some sort of you know Russian TV is here but it's more important just that there's TV. Yeah. Yeah. Why is there TV performing a little bit. Why is TV. Someone wants to do a story about how he's crazy. Oh fair if I had to bet. I don't know. I haven't seen the and who knows what even means by that. Yeah. Could be

some independent YouTube channel has come with a camera. Yeah. That's true. International news. Yeah. But whatever the case is he's he's a little bit more juiced up than normal because he's performing for an audience. So you see that that like screaming about Michelle Obama is much more impassioned than he might normally be. Although he still would be worked up about those issues. Yeah. But he talks a lot about Epstein and it's sort of my position that I don't really care about his position on Epstein. Yeah. No. Absolutely not. No. It's not interesting to me. Whatever he's bringing up is bullshit and I don't want to get into it. Nope. But he talks about I'm including this clip that's sort of tertiary involved in it just because he makes an accusation

that I think might be legally actionable. OK. And you've got the Wrenfields like Epstein who bring the children to Dracula. But who's Dracula. Well the Duke and John Ray people Ted Turner. Oh who else likes little girls. There's a certain famous black woman who's the only black person allowed to attend these meetings. And does she like her little girls. We'll be right back. Stay with us. What. He's talking about Oprah. He's talking about Oprah. Yeah. Gotcha. Gotcha. It's very clear. OK. Without naming her he is just accused Oprah of being a pedophile. Yeah. That does sound like that's what he was trying to say. Yep. That's 100 percent what he's saying. I don't I just think

like eventually he's got to learn a lesson about what you can and can't say. I don't know about people. I don't know. It's it's pretty wild. I think this is deeply irresponsible. I think you he's like a dog. You have to have your your negative feedback has to come immediately after the action. You know because he's being punished too long after the fact he doesn't understand. He doesn't put the two together as being like oh saying this like if he just got whipped yeah right after he said that he'd be like OK. I think that's the line now. Yeah. There's no kind of behavioral modification possibility even with him getting some consequences now. He's he's gone too far along with just everyone being like whatever. Yeah. And that's a problem. I mean that's that's

why we're where we are. More or less. Yeah. Pretty much. So he starts doing this and he's talking about the Dracula and all this shit and he starts becoming preoccupied with the globalists working for Satan literal Satan. Yes. Of course. And so he just he does all devolves into a bit of a what I would describe as a wrestling promo about Satan. There's one way for the globalists to get out of this and that's to give them their knees to Jesus Christ. But because you're already slaves to the devil your father you can't do it. So there's no way out. But it's still important for you. To be told the truth. Why. Because your boss has to get permission. Oh the devil to even blink his eye. And your boss is not in charge of anything and either of you.

So you may have a bunch of slaves bowing down to you all day long. But you don't run anything in this universe. You don't even run this planet. You have just been given a little bit of power to test the faithful. And you know that. Can you imagine being a film crew in there and trying not to laugh. I is doing this shit. I mean I can. I'm here's how here's my fate. I'm just looking off into the middle distance wondering when it's going to end. Yeah. That's my face. If I'm a long is this. Yeah exactly. Why is this show as long as it is. What. Who is listening to this. Well it's people who Alex is convinced to be totally scared of people who are unlike themselves in this next clip. Alex like I have no other way of describing this than just like Alex freaking out about trying

to scare his audience into thinking people are coming for their kids. Oh OK. Why would they have big fat men assaulting Christians in downtown Austin who go out and have a demonstration with families because those very men are going to go teach five year olds how to have sex with them. That's official Austin curriculum each five year olds are different gender and how to have anal sex. So parents come out and finally demonstrate and say no. And then men come screaming going you're killing me and throwing themselves at the families. You go why because that's their food. The food they need. It's all they see is your children. All right. Help me. I need your children. I'm going to grow up. Because they're coming from hell. Another dimension. It's open.

What the fuck. That was a great music choice. I really swelled there at the end. Got me. I was listening to this. I'm like I'm really scared of the idea of someone taking this seriously. And then at the other on the other hand I was just like this show is so fucking stupid. There's no way. Yeah. There's no way. What kind of you would have to be way too far gone. If you were to hear him say that it's the official curriculum to teach five year olds about anal sex to be like that. That's true. I think so. People do believe that I know but they're gone. Get them out of here or they believe in in some sort of a metaphorical way. Yeah. They're just against any kind of sex education. Right. And then they are like yeah this is spiritually true. They are coming to our

kids. But I'm exhausted. Yeah. Jesus. Just listening to him be that performatively fake angry. There's a there's a gate of hell are open. Yeah. Jesus. There's a there's a film crew here sir. Compart yourself with decorum. It's probably wise. Oh it's absolutely why. No no no I understand it up for the camera. Yeah. Yeah. So anyway Alex has also found a clip of Rashida to live and yeah he takes some issues with her which what a shock. Yeah. I want to roll the next one of to leave telling kids how many of you have trouble breathing. Oh a third of you. Oh you're old guy. I'm trying to help you breathe. The US has super clean air compared to China and places. If we move all our industry there it's even dirtier. It goes up in the stratosphere and comes back

and dumps onto the US where the jet stream just so happens to dump over the Midwest and Texas. That's the truth. But she's there. You can't breathe. Can you children. Hi I'm your Palestinian jihadi here. Oh telling you how much we're going to impeach the MF for praying on children. She goes into that. Oh Palestinian jihadi. All right. Cool. Cool. Cool. Cool. So Rashida to live helped organize a campaign called we have the right to breathe in response to a billionaire in her district flaunting you know just flouting environmental protection laws and refusing to cease operating semi trucks in residential areas which is massively polluting to those neighborhoods. According to her official page on the House of Representatives website quote

when large piles of black dust started showing up on the Detroit Riverfront and blowing into homes and parks in the Michigan Department of Environmental Quality told residents everything was fine. Rashida collected samples and got the substance tested herself. So she found that this was a carcinogenic petroleum coke and she started this organizing campaign to address the problem. In the political climate we're living in there's a real danger that environmental regulations will be rolled back or just not enforced. And when that ball starts rolling people get hurt. We've had relatively clean air and water because years ago we put regulations in place that big business polluters had to follow. Alex is a hack and a liar. So there's no real

need to explain why he's doing what he's doing. But I have a sense that rank and file everyday people who could be persuaded of these kinds of anti-environmental regulation arguments they just don't realize the situation we'd be living in if those regulations weren't there or weren't enforced. I suspect that they just take for granted the relatively good environment that we enjoy. So all of this came up recently with Rashida because there's a Chrysler plant being built in Detroit and she's been vocal about the company taking their responsibilities to the neighboring communities seriously. Chrysler is getting massive tax benefits to build the plant and as such they have a very real responsibility to not fuck up the lives of the people in the

surrounding area and that's all she's talking about. It's a relevant concern too. The Detroit Free Press spoke to a couple that lives down the street from where the plant is being put up and they talked about how their house was shaking from the construction and said they quote can't keep dust out of the house it's awful. Also it would be wrong to bring up this topic without addressing studies that have shown clearly that air quality is not a consistent thing in this country and that they're demonstrable patterns. According to research presented by researchers from the Ohio State University at the 2019 meeting of the American Sociological Society quote we're seeing that these pollution hotspots are the same year after year and every time they're in low income

communities often communities of color. This has implications for a wide array of health disparities from pre-term births and infant mortality to developmental delays and childhood to heart and lung disease later in life. There is a cultural gap here and low income areas are hit incredibly hard by polluting companies and the research tends to show that this disproportionately is true of low income predominantly black neighborhoods. Quote we found that for every 1% increase in low income African Americans living in an area the odds that an area would become a hotspot grew significantly. This was also true but to a lesser extent for increases in low income white populations. So yeah Alex can keep keep rambling on about China's air if he wants but

that does nothing to address the situation that tons of Americans are living in where their health and right to clean air in an unpolluted environment are being neglected for the sake of protecting corporate profit margins. People like Rashida are trying at least to address these problems head on in a way that serves the people's interests but I guess to Alex that's just what Palestinian jihadis do. The idea that well see we're better than China is not it's not an argument it's irrelevant. Okay we're okay one child less died of fucking poison in their lungs yeah great we're better than China yeah if you have if you have a relative thing and that like makes you feel good but the thing you're comparing yourself to is something terrible then it's almost irrelevant

yeah so I don't know keep playing that fucking dumb game if you want. It's just a it's just a fucked up thing to do this which because that's it's such it's such bullshit because that means that it's fine for us to slide back right closer to China as long as we're still a little bit better than China totally so shut the fuck up why are you complaining yeah all the people who don't look like me who can't breathe better than the worst or a worst case scenario is not good yeah don't compare yourself to a terrible example of something yeah like air quality in China right if you want to consider yourself trying right it's it's ridiculous our oil spill wasn't as bad as the Exxon Valdez so we're doing great so we basically contained the oil we're basically we we are heroes

actually yeah it's silly so anyway he accuses her Rashida of terrorizing children here's Rashid Tlaib literally terrorizing children I go into these classrooms and you know the second and third grade classrooms to read you know grace for president and at the end I try to explain what my job is and before I begin I just ask how many of you all have asthma a hard time breathing in a third of the class will raise their hand and I tell them I'm my job is to protect your air so that you can breathe and the kids are like open I said sometimes it's really hard right oh it's really hard to breathe it and they're having anxiety attacks what surprising him a bunch of no-dose they freak out maybe some SD this woman looks like Brian Stelter like these

people don't know how disingenuous and snake like they are they're tone deaf here let's go back to her while she's smiling like a vampire great another powerful woman of color being compared to a man and a snake and a snake don't you have to know how in order to be a snake like person right wouldn't you then have to have knowledge of your snake like well I mean like it's tough to not see your fork tongue yeah yeah right like I mean it's just a clear pattern that you see like it's just a clear pattern and how alex interacts with other figures now now I'm just rereading metaphor metamorphosis in my head where the the guy just wakes up and he just goes to work like in the normal day and everybody's fine with it everybody's fine with everybody's like oh shit

you're a buck now whatever I thought it was still I thought it was metamorphosis but with a snake metamorphosis snake yeah that's the sequel I was trying to find that pun so anyway it keeps getting worse and alex keeps attacking Rashida he's second and third grader sometimes I wish they could be in this room and make these decisions because they're you know they know what's right and they know they don't have any kind of political strategy behind it they just know it's just the right thing to do and I know that's right like the thousands of kids that you that you support get strapped on by their mothers at age five with with dynamite and hand grenades exactly you love you can bring our children you stinking witch

my god these people are filth wow is that legally actionable I don't know but I mean like it's just gross that's that's you support child suicide bombers yeah because of just the fact that you're a palestinian yeah and well don't forget she also wants you to be able to breathe sure so that is what is more like isis than like legitimately all clean air all alex is responding to is the possibility of greater regulation for businesses and this is the way he responds it's pretty fucked up and it underlies his really bigoted positions I mean you're seeing this very consistently throughout this episode it's really really fucked up it really is amazing how complete the the propaganda wall really is whenever you can convince people

to vote against their own ability to breathe yeah you know like there are people there like no we can't regulate the those those companies bring jobs we can't regulate them that'll literally to more regulations like okay then choke to death I don't know what to I don't know what to do for you a bunch of kids have asthma and we know ways that we can help this issue right but unfortunately it's gonna cut into corporate profits oh well can't do that yeah well at least we're better than China yeah so there we go so we've seen attacks on Michelle uh that were very white identity leaning yeah we've seen attacks on Rashida which have also seemed to center around him taking issue with her ethnicity you know a lot of white guys don't like it when black women have power

no did you know that was a trigger for a lot of white dudes it was like a crazy number and so now we get into what he had he's promised he's gonna go over and that is some Soros shit but as he's trying to do this we see the pesky head of tech problems oh hey George Soros ladies and gentlemen is a real piece of work I actually like this show way better I want to be clear we are gonna hear this sort of tech glitch this is not your phone fucking up your anything this is from Alex's raw audio I like this show now big pause finding more Jews were hidden and then stealing their goods man went all bright by the way has been caught with stolen loot from holocaust that's mainstream news just look it up she had people in her house for 60 minutes and people

saw the stolen art well yeah her father stole it from Jews he was supposed to save and then he sold him out of the Nazis so the situation with Madeline Albright is a little different than what Alex is presenting he has a lie about George Soros that he always tells about him working with the Nazis yeah yeah so in order to reinforce that he's taken a true story about Madeline Albright and fudged the details to make it match his false version of the Soros story Madeline Albright was accused by a man named Philip Harmer of being in possession of things that were stolen from his family's apartment after world war two this was apparently done by Madeline Albright's father Joseph Korbel who was a diplomat at the time in the Czech foreign ministry they ended up they'd

ended up in that country after finding refuge in London during world war two I say refuge because many of Albright's family members were killed in the holocaust though she is a Christian she had many Jewish relatives and thus her family was at risk during the war if they didn't get out so they went to London then after the ending of hostilities they ended up in Prague Philip Harmer was not a Jewish man who had his things stolen in the holocaust his family was German and in the post-war years over three billion Germans had been expelled from the country that they were in they then Czechoslovakia to be clear I don't know if Philip Harmer himself is Jewish and I'm not saying he's not or is I have no idea yeah my larger point is that his family left Prague not

because of the holocaust but because of anti-German sentiment in the post-war years after that point it said that Albright's father stole a bunch of their stuff if this is the case then that's shitty and they should have their stuff returned to them I don't know the ins and outs of this case but it's nothing like what Alex is presenting even Harmer said of the confiscation of his family's items quote it was understandable considering what the Nazis did to his family but it was not necessarily right yeah so this has nothing to do with what Alex is presenting it as he's only using this story in order to reinforce his complete lie about George Soros and like rounding up Jews during the holocaust under the guise of coming to confiscate stuff or whatever that's just

such a funny clip for the way to get into like to just and so the Jews were all that whoa whoa I missed a lot yeah it's tough it's it's almost like you just want it to keep glitching so you don't say it's bullshit yeah yeah and it's just such a weird non-secret like it might as well have just been like rectum damn near killed like what are you doing so in this next clip Alex denies George Soros's identity as a holocaust survivor George Soros is really mad at me that I cover this and I talk about it and he puts out the PR and the disinformation that he's a holocaust survivor well I guess that's kind of like saying Hitler is a holocaust survivor

and I guess he was someone that was around during the holocaust and he survived I mean I guess technically it's true Hitler is what did you just say sickening play on words a manipulation a legalese issue so we know that Alex believes that Hitler didn't kill himself in the bunker did Hitler survive though okay we're in voice from Brazil territory yeah it's an okay it's an interesting position for him to have and I don't really want to get into it as much as I would say let's stipulate that Hitler did yes escape all right now Alex is saying that similarly George Soros's experience George Soros's experience is similar to Hitler's experience in a war yeah I would say that what you are doing is holocaust revision you're engaging in minimizing

Hitler's behavior yeah or turning whatever Soros did into the level of the person the furor right right and either of those things is trivializing the holocaust and I find it to be offensive yeah I think I think he's really he ran that he shot the moon if this was a game of hearts he got all the tricks he batted for the cycle he got it all yeah we've got the white identity whites are responsible for the civilization and ending slavery you dumb black woman who I hate so much yeah Rashida Tlaib is a Palestinian jihadi who's trying to terrorize children with breathing issues right and now we've got Soros holocaust revisionism look the whites ended the holocaust too see you guys don't talk about that I think you can maybe understand why this is an

episode that it should be covered Jesus but also I really just want to gloat about Alex's horrible sound quality issues and far be it from me we've had some sound issues too lately yeah and I don't mean to I don't mean to begrudge Alex but hey we record in my bedroom yeah and he is a millionaire yeah yeah there's a little bit of a difference there and also slight change in quality and also if my shit sounded like this I would never put it out haha oh tricking people to let you into their hiding place claiming you're running from nazis

he was 14 and small for 14 so they were saving a kid he would come in and then remember it all then run out at night and bring the nazis they called them bloodhounds a little completely making that up yeah alex is 100 and he has no evidence of this he has nothing that soros has said he has no proof that soros as a youth went and found jews hiding places and then brought the nazis back this is one of the worst kind of slanders you can accuse someone of yeah this is disgusting yeah i don't even mean this just because like hey i love soros or something that's not my angle on this at all this is repugnant behavior yeah um and it just it absolutely trivializes the holocaust when you use something like this

as a political cudgel against one of your enemies what you're doing is uh making it okay to commit a holocaust eh somewhat but look man alex's family he shouldn't have to worry about this sort of shit because his family fought hitler all right but see i my family fought hitler and now that man has the adl and southern property law center say i'm a nazi that is obscene ladies gentlemen i almost don't exist in time and space because of hitler and then a monster that served him and rounded up jews funds lawsuits and attacks on me and my family and lies and i'm just if there's justice in this universe my god can't we do something about george soros and his son alexander that openly funds

antifa and the documents are public those documents are fake and what you're doing there is calling for someone to hurt george soros and his son but you can't interpret it any other way on alex's show like you hear something like that and uh like should something happen to either of them uh and like the person who did it as a listener of alex's show that is a clear cut example of stochastic terrorism yeah like he is just being like oh if there's any justice in the universe and god's will can someone take care of them meanwhile on a show like within the last month alex has said hey vengeance is gods but sometimes you got to be god's instrument you gotta god calls you to do things somehow that makes sense in both directions within the the

canon of alex's work you have all the pieces necessary to think god is calling you to kill george soros because alex is not saying we got to do something like we need to institute a wealth tax he's not he's not trying to solve that problem he's not trying to solve any of the even if soros did do the thing he's not saying let's send him to the fucking hag to stand trial he's not doing any of that shit he wants them to kill him yep that's fucked up that's fucked up this is unacceptable on so many levels so now alex has a guest sure a lawyer no oh that's nice no for once it's not one of his lawyers but he has a guest who's run afoul of turning point usa and so they you know alex wants to have a little conversation about it and here's a little bit of

an introduction we're going to go to break come back with our guest who is being censored and targeted by the republicans and again i think this description a lot of good turning point usa but what happened to candace owens being driven out you know what's going on with all this why are their best people being shuttered so alex has a guest coming up who's on the outs with turning point usa sure and in this tease for the interview he mentions that turning point is a good organization as a whole but he doesn't like they got rid of candace owens now it seems worth mentioning that alex just got done with a 20 minute segment of holocaust revisionism and lying about soros rounding up jews during the holocaust so it seems like when you then transition into an interview by saying it

was wrong for turning point to part ways with candace it's probably relevant to know why they did that it's like what you said recently they're you are not more important than the grift every functionary in these operations is useful until they're not even when you make quite a name for yourself and you go mainstream in some sense you can reach a point where you're just too fucking dumb or too toxic a property to continue being associated with that happened for candace owens in december 2018 when she said at a turning point event quote i actually don't have any problems with the word nationalism i think the definition gets poisoned by elitists that actually want globalism globalism is what i don't want whenever we say nationalism the first thing people think

about at least in america is hitler you know he was a national socialist but if hitler just wanted to make germany great and have things run well okay fine the problem is he wanted he had dreams outside of germany he wanted to globalize he wanted everyone to be german everybody to speak german everybody to look a different way that's not to me that's not nationalism leaving aside how this comment definitely seems to imply that an internally operating genocide would be totally cool with her saying something like this publicly is just fucking embarrassing it demonstrates a very shallow understanding of what happened in world war two and what hitler was up to when someone says something like this you consider what other completely idiotic and profoundly offensive

things they might accidentally say in the future and if you're smart you decide now i got to cut ties with her yeah yeah it's important to note this has nothing to do with the substance of what you believe turning point usa totally fine with that probably but the obvious are impossible exactly and it raises she's she's fired for being a bad grifter you don't say it out loud and it raises the question of what else might we have to do damage control about the future she's a bad grifter yes get her out of here yes the most generous reading of her comment is that she knows nothing about the subject she's talking about and the least generous is that she's a holocaust denier both of these are bad for the brand or i would say the least generous that she's a holocaust

supporter maybe within certain borders i guess yeah both of these are bad for the brand and turning point usa is all about that grift i think this is important to recognize however because alex is saying that they were wrong to cut ties with her and one of the motivating factors was clearly this comment that could easily be interpreted as being minimizing of the holocaust that's really fucked up to hear after alex has just rewritten elements of the holocaust to serve his purposes that's also really fucked up to hear considering that owen schreuer had the hosts of red ice radio as guests on his show this week wait he did what yeah oh man so they're going full throated and it'll be even more fucked up they're just dropping the hoods on when we get to who the

guest he's introducing oh no well nick pointes is here with us today and i really appreciate him coming on nickolasjpointes.com and i'm very familiar with his work we're very excited to have him we should have him as a guest more often oh really you're really familiar with his work that's going to be a problem here in a minute who's this guy so we briefly mentioned nick fuentes in a recent episode in relation to him working with that network that also employed joey salads the racist hoax video guy who peed in his own mouth yeah i'd kind of hope that that would be the only time this dude came up on our show but apparently i don't get what i want sometimes nick fuentes is a pile of shit but he's also clearly a troll so talking about him gets into

murky territory where you can really never know how much of what he's saying is sincere and how much is just intentionally provocative to try and get people angry for attention doesn't matter fuck that guy he has a show called america first that is just a really terrible green screen background sloppy bullshit it's terrible but i've listened to enough of his work to know that there are definitely some things that he's very serious about and they're all bad things for one he believes that the united states is a country specifically for white people he'll generally resist the title of white supremacist or any of that stuff he pretends that he's just wanting to uphold the intent of the founders of the country who wanted the country to be a place specifically for whites

now i'm gonna go out on a limb here fuentes right it's an issue i don't care though okay i i i understand where you're coming from i'm just don't care it's just there yeah i'm just saying it's there i need to i needed everybody to know it's there and then we can move on that is an interesting consideration whenever you have these sort of escalating exclusiveness positions yeah do you not think that you eventually won't pass the test yeah you are advocating in that direction it is it is one of those things where it's like the further on the edge of the in group you are seems like the more aware you should be that the in group is going to slough off those they're going to shed their skin whenever there's it can you know yeah and the it does not go the other

direction so the other thing that's very consistent uh in ecuentes his work is a strain of hatred towards jews and holocaust revisionism in this clip we'll hear nick on his show america first complaining about matt walsh decrying white nationalism after the shooting in el paso from a little white ways back and please it be advised listeners he's going to use some language that is very uncommon on our show uh kid 2000 says it's very refreshing to see some people stay consistent and not take a self-defeating defensive position much appreciated keep it up well thanks yeah we just can't do that we can't play this game of i just evolved white supremacy and notice how the claws come out all these pussies frankly and again sorry for the language but that's what

it is people like uh who's the family matt walsh guy total faggot pussy and uh you know he's always like this and when a white person does a shooting suddenly he's a big tough guy oh i think these these white racist scumbags should get public executions and we should hang them and be brutal that's the only thing that's gonna stop these people yeah you're a real tough guy you're a real fucking tough guy you know this is i uh sorry for the language this is about the language but uh you know that's what it is these people it's a very latent hatred for their own people for white people if it's not their own people matt walsh shabbos goy race trader that's what it is folks i know some people don't like to use that expression but it's totally true throwing his own people under the bus he hates white

people nobody else nobody else talks like that about their own people except for white people and it's gross this white racist scumbag should get the he should be hanged in public and we should be brutal about it yeah okay keep typing on twitter.com faggot faggot pussy race trader you work for jews you know so that's the kind of thing that he uh espouses uh and it's good thing alex is familiar with his work and he's a big fan yeah so if you take that for what it is you have a guy who's offended at someone not supporting white nationalism and his response is to call him a race trader and then talk about how he works for jews yeah interesting yeah as for holocaust revisionism nick engages in a crypto form of denialism that's pretty popular in neo-nazi

circles which what they do is they talk about the killings in the holocaust uh using the language of baking cookies i know it sounds weird but you'll see what i mean in this clip max says if i take one hour to cook a batch of cookies and cookie monster has 15 ovens working 24 hours a day every day for five years how long does it take cookie monster to make six million batches of cookies i don't know that's a good question certainly uh oh no no it doesn't really sound correct to me wait a second it takes one hour to cook a batch of cookies and you have 15 ovens probably in four different kitchens right doing 24 hours a day every day for five years how long would it take you to make six million hmm i don't know it certainly wouldn't be five years right uh the math

doesn't seem to add up there so six million cookies i don't buy it i don't even care to engage with this sort of shit but i wanted to play that for you so you could understand that this is a guy who uses his platform to partake in explicit holocaust revision and denial nick is very young and doesn't know very much but he has a good handle on really far right talking points and is able to rattle them off pretty quickly you know enough to trick idiots into thinking he knows what he's talking about consider him to be like an anti-jewish ben Shapiro a person nick coincidentally hates which probably has nothing to do with Shapiro's very public Judaism i i don't know why he would hate him what makes this absolutely unacceptable is that alex says he knows nick's work and that

he likes his work if he had no idea who nick was and had him on then that's a huge fuck up and assign that he needs a better vetting process but knowing who he is and giving him a friendly platform is a tacit support for his ideas and what he stands for namely holocaust denial and white nationalism so congratulations alex you're almost at your true form jesus yep and i heard that he was on i was like well this is progressing and the red ice being on owens show yeah it's like it's just it's they're done right they're they're there this is exactly the transformation that you know you expect it's basically what i was sort of predicting once the the deplatforming came and it maybe took a little bit longer than uh you know you would expect like yeah kind of think

that maybe he'd jump right in but he probably had more cash before yeah he tried i you know it was almost it's almost admiral how long he tried before he just decided to become a white nationalist broadcast yeah fuck it and and he'll he'll you know probably try and pretend but all these people fucking pretend jesus yeah this is this is how you discuss a sort of neo nazi um holocaust revision in a winking way isn't it funny i are talking about cookies can't get mad at me talking about cookies hey you know what's easy uh the holocaust was bad no matter the numbers you don't have to work that hard yeah well you do if you want to have it oh yeah that's right if you want to come with it's okay with it and you really got to work hard don't you yeah so alex is uh gonna talk to

nick fuentes which is great um and so what the big reason that alex is having him on or so he thinks yeah is that uh nick got into a little bit of a beef with turning point usa and charlie kirk sure um i don't care about their petty drama but it's interesting because they're having this fight alex is looking at things a little differently interesting and so i've seen a lot of other things and i know folks that have been to some of the turning point usa national events and they say it's well you know a little little leftist and look i know we want to have a big really we have a big tent so long we'll compromise and then the left continues to take over so turning point usa is not a little leftist they're entirely funded by right wing billionaire cash infusions that are

absolutely 100 the tool of the right trying to look cool on college campuses so why is alex hearing that they're a little leftist oh i don't know possibly because he's now exclusively hanging out with crypto fascists and neo nazis yeah they're they're a little bit leftist they still say the holocaust is real yeah yeah that is really what they're saying they still think homosexuality is okay that really is what they say that legal immigration is appropriate they're they're leftists they don't believe that this country is a white country in our midst yeah if you have someone telling you the turning point usa is a little leftist that means that you're talking to someone who is extremely on the far right they appear to be a little leftist to them because their standard of where something

falls on the political spectrum is completely fucked up considering alex's network has had red ice and nick fuentes on in the same week tells me all i need to know he's dropped any pretense and this network is on its way towards becoming something very extreme yeah where turning point usa is possibly on the left it's a terrifying development but i'd be lying if i said i was surprised look at look at these leftists over here saying that jews should be allowed to live come on bunch of libs yep libs so alex believes that this is going to be a thing where they talk about turning point usa being a little left or whatever yeah and he plays a clip that i have to assume that nick sent him and it's this question this guy asking a question at one of turning points

recent events yeah and then interspersed with charlie kirk saying something that directly contradicts it and then at the end there is a clip of charlie kirk saying that israel is special okay there we go and on the left indeed alex i think is a little bit surprised by the part at the end being about like just overtly not connected at all yeah the part prior to it and just being about him saying that israel is a holy land uh this is not good this falls apart very quickly as alex should have known it would if you knew anything about nick fuentes and we just added that clip in there to talk about after the break but there you go i'm floating airplane with this guy after the uh r and c 2016 seemed like to be clear he's talking about charlie kirk like a nice guy

and you know i like the idea i like the fact that they have contact with trump and i like what the members are doing they're great people but yeah i know there's a lot of other videos online too of him really telling whoppers of lies or he has amnesia brain damage and it doesn't have uh any type of long-term memory i mean maybe maybe he's got a head a head injury what do you think yeah no i definitely think that's possible certainly he could be mentally retarded as you like to say or he could just be straight up lying you know we've seen a lot of cases of this where people get involved in conservative politics and maybe say one thing and then they get donors and then they get people funding their organization they get some connections they rub

shoulders with powerful people like the president or his son in the case of charlie kirk and then all of a sudden their opinions start to change and then suddenly you know their love for america becomes a love for another country so yeah i mean he could have been uh brain damage maybe dropped on his head or something or he could just be straight up lying in which case we have to hold him accountable and that's what we're trying to do i'd like to point out that at the beginning of this episode alex talked about getting hit in the head with a lead pipe and an axe handle and now they're talking about charlie kirk having brain damage great real fun um that is exactly what you'd expect if you bring uh nick fuentes on your show he's going to suggest that he doesn't love

america he loves israel yep that's what's got to happen oh boy so alex i don't know if he recognizes by this point that this is where the interview is going to be driven yeah and he doesn't want any part of that he should know that this is what happens it's a good thing that that whole like dual citizenship right to return kind of stuff is staying well within this far right fringe culture you know i'm glad that you never see people on national tv saying that somebody could be disloyal to the united states because they are also have yeah but i don't even i don't even know if charlie kirk is jewish i think this is even just like uh oh he's just a he's just complete yeah agent of israel sure fine let's throw it all in there so in order to make it not like

an interview that's going to be ended immediately uh nick gets into some of his other positions that alex might uh be more interested in um so he expresses his position on immigration here we go i bet it's very liberal no leftist turning point usa style leftism now my show we oppose not just mass illegal immigration but mass legal immigration as well you know we know that the demographic change that's taking place is really not so much a problem of legal status but more question of where these people come from what they believe and so on it makes into the uh white genocide meme yeah so cool yeah he's against legal immigration of non white folk to the united states it does sound like that's what his his stated position is it is yeah so it seems like it seems like that

one's he's wearing it on his sleeve so alex i mean you're you're helping this sort of rhetoric that stuff out there let's get the world the world needs more of that in the in the you know what let's not worry about the coke on our shores dan let's worry about fucking keeping immigrants out of here great yep so here we go here's some more shit that alex uh just has to allow on his show now so he's not a patriot on legal immigration we think he's anti christian because he pedals and promotes degeneracy he's taking pictures with lady maga some kind of make america great again themed drag queen supporting homosexuals in his organization uh and then lastly he's not a patriot in terms of his own country i think a lot of people suspect rightly so that he has a dual

allegiance or a dual loyalty to israel okay all right wow so yeah i mean associating with homosexuals in any way is anti christian he supports degeneracy degeneracy degeneracy so wait where is this fucking kid from chicago did he come from the 1930s what is fucking happening he's from that very racist part of chicago yeah what are we talking about and i don't support miscegenation he probably no he doesn't he doesn't support miscegenation of course no god damn it i i believe that i have heard videos where he has expressed well i mean if you're if you're already in a discomfort with uh interracial yeah if you're against legal immigration i'm guessing that you're probably against any kind of uh uh denigrating the white race this guy is

so far past like what's what should be allowed in like normal conversations oh yeah that i even find it tough that we're talking about it yeah like i don't even like the idea that he's come into our sphere by way of uh being on alex's show yeah it's it's just like i didn't think we would see the day where alex had fallen apart to this point i i really went us and read ice in on his show in the same week i mean it's just becoming more and more overt yeah this is a white nationalist radio show yep there you go and uh we're all the women are we're cool with having uncritical interviews with people who are so beyond the pale i'm not just going to pretend to debate david duke anymore i'm gonna tell him to full throated scream it from the mountaintop i don't

think he could do that because david duke's too famous yeah i think i may i mean metaphorically speaking as far as saying similar things to david yeah and wasn't david duke yeah i would be all about oh yeah get him on yeah in much the same way turning point usa can't be associated with kandace owens because of her gaffes yeah uh it's it's all about optics as opposed to the actual content yeah yeah so alex seemed to be surprised there about nick saying this about his charlie having loyalties to israel it is it is kind of refreshing that even he is like oh no what have i done if you listen to this next clip i do think that alex is a little bit back on his heels this is a country that we give support it's just about every way shape and form monetary support

military support political support i wanted to get you on and it's finally in israel i wanted to get you on because no it's not i saw these videos and i saw articles about it where they're trying to keep you from coming to those while saying they're open and they're doing this and they basically didn't stand up for kandace owens which i don't like and then i've and i've seen some of this stuff personally i'm a libertarian and so i like the fact that trump you know at his convention in in cleveland said we don't hate you if you're you know gay or lesbian or whatever i get your point though about it's already being paraded everywhere with the trainees going after the kids and you know all that and and and and so why sit there and make that the main message alex is he

needs to redirect man because he does not want to have this conversation i think he's also realizing like oh shit oh no oh shit oh no it's okay we can get into israel i'm going to change the subject as quickly as i can though as soon as possible in fact right now and that's not to say that alex is like a shill for israel no no absolutely not when when you've got this extreme hard right dude on the show yeah he seems to be constantly bringing up israel stuff yeah alex is smart enough to realize like i am i've stepped in it yeah i'm i'm waiting for him to like artificially do i'm sorry i can't hear you yeah this would be a good time for a glitch yeah this would be a great time for a glitch he needs to refocus the argument or the discussion into place where it's more about

the trivial culture issue pop culture issues uh like uh somebody complained about something yeah uh and that's all all he can do it is it is kind of interesting that it does seem we're really close to him having to be like could you please not use this word right you know like you really matter of time for all of his for all of his free speech bullshit we're really close to him being like he let his you please not say the end word i know i know and he didn't even push back on it no he his response to it later in the episode was we gotta use those freedoms or else they'll go away god what a fucking asshole so alex like i said the trivial issue kind of thing is he needs to refocus this back on the turning point usa yeah because that petty drama is really what he wants

to talk about because that's where some money is that's where some attention is right um and so nick uh makes a little bit of an argument that i think is really interesting i think it's really um not universal but it's very common in these worlds you know this whole thing could have been averted i wouldn't be on info wars right now there would be no controversy if he simply allowed me to take the picture or go into the event and i think a lot of people are now scratching their heads it's almost exposed himself he's made a bigger deal out of it than it is and they're wondering what is he so afraid of why does he not want to stand these questions why can he not defend these ideas so the sort the idea is essentially that charlie kirk banned nick fuentes from uh i

would assume that there's probably a good reason i bet that there had been some interaction between the two of them in the past i know that i i was able to find some indication that uh in the like years ago nick fuentes was invited to give a speech at a turning point event so there is some interaction between uh him and the organization i wouldn't be surprised if he nick had been like critiquing and saying like you dumb jew lover yeah something like that yeah i i think that's entirely possible he's clearly an antagonistic troll right why wouldn't he be behaving that way in the lead-up to charlie saying don't allow that guy in yeah of course i see that is incredibly likely yeah so but what are you saying here in this clip is a classic manipulation trick to any

right thinking observer this is more or less publicity stuff that nick fuentes is running at the expense of charlie kirk and ultimately there's no good solution for kirk what's being done is that nick is putting charlie kirk in a situation where he has two options the first is to take a picture with and associate with someone who is a clear bigot and troll who is outside of what you deem to be acceptable discourse by that association you'll be giving this voice your test at support which is something you absolutely don't want to do the second option is to choose not to associate with this entity and based on a very reasonable assumption that they're just trying to co-opt your platform anyway what you do is you seek to keep them out of your event but this

doesn't work either because now you've given this bad faith entity the appearance that you can't handle their ideas or you're shutting down free speech by protecting your space from a holocaust revising white nationalist you end up giving that person precisely the fuel they need to get the publicity they were after in the first place this is a win-win situation for nick fuentes and that's exactly why he's doing this and it is it like you can feel charlie being like i want to say i don't want you here because you're a holocaust denying nazi lunatic but if he said that he loses half of turning point usa's followers you know i think he has said that that's unfair whatever i think he has been clear about like uh no of course i don't want this fucking asshole anti semi troll

hanging around yeah i think he has been clear about that well good for him yeah well i mean there are limits i mean well he's on alex's show well nick is yeah charlie kirk isn't oh no yeah there's still a veneer there right right whatever the case now after this whole thing um other people in turning point have uh you know come out and supported charlie kirk in this uh this kerfuffle and nick has some comments about that and you know what else is so troubling is after this whole event we see people like benny johnson who works for turning point usa and other people that are connected to the organization you might see this on twitter you may not have but people are now standing up and calling everybody who asked questions last night at his oh his ohio state

university event who asked about israel asked about his support of homosexuality so on you've now got people working for turning point usa saying that if you oppose the charlie kirk conservative agenda you're a homophobe you're a racist i think benny johnson said we were the west borough baptist kids because we're christians because we support the bible teaching that opposes homosexuality oh absolutely and listen you have a right to do that and and and and i agree that that none of this sexualization should be promoted to children and there needs to be a major pendulum back the other way what does that look like what is that pendulum going back the other direction look like why do you think that gay people being allowed to exist in civilization and it just in

the public is sexualizing children well the pendulum needs to go back away from them being allowed to exist in public they need to hide again so i don't ever feel any discomfort at all for my way of life not being the only way of life dead is more or less what we're getting here it does it does feel like like this fuentes kid is so much like i have to see these older guys like alex jones and all these people looking at nick fuentes going just like fuck i made you didn't i yes you are you're what i created and i can't control it and you don't know no they do i mean nick no no nick knows that he was made by he doesn't know that he's he doesn't know that all of that holocaust denial and all of that anti-semitism and stuff is supposed to be about the grift first

but nick is a fucking hater he's a hater but he's also hate yeah yeah he hates you know like alex doesn't really alex doesn't hate with that like he does at times he does it he does at times he does at times i think we get caught up too much in how much so much of this is just a performance right and forget that underneath that there is still some for sure for sure freaking out about seeing muslims at a pool supply store for instance for sure that that kind of thing is still real for him yeah i mean i what i think is more the point is like you see this and you're like i am partially responsible for your track that you've gone down i cannot control this anymore yeah and you're better than me yeah you are a faster talker he is much more smart sounding

than alex yeah like these are people the next generation is far more competent than the past generation and someone like nick could be really dangerous with the level of exposure that alex has or at least he used to have yeah certainly i i don't think alex would ever have him on back when he was doing well no i mean if he if he yeah like nick fuentes wouldn't have been there on the night trump wins not at the height of alex's powers no never going to happen and i think he also would even be too much of an issue to even have as an employee yeah but now um i don't know i still think alex would be able to see through it pretty quickly and realize this i'm giving you a show you won my contest he does not get the normal treatment the job offer treatment yeah but uh

yeah i don't know it's fucked up so you have one last clip here and it's a nick expressing that he watched info wars back in the day which goes to your point and uh you know you had expectations about trump no i've been in this for two three or four years now i remember watching when i was in high school donald trump appear on your show and it was probably one of the coolest things i ever saw and i think everybody believed in 2016 that things were going to be different you know that with donald trump being an insurgent in the republican party the hostile takeover and then becoming president i think everybody believed that it was going to be a real america first movement that the john mccain mit romney george bush conservative movement big tent

conservative movement was done and so then to see all these people that wear the mogahat people that they co-opted donald trump message co-opted donald trump look the optics and everything for them to then use the same tactics of the laugh you know they're really embracing this monote party globalist mentality so he thought that donald trump was going to bring an end to the big tent uh gop and what he means by that is non whites yeah what he means by that is non christians yeah what he means by that is anybody who doesn't think that the united states is a white christian country where there is should be a power monopoly uh in the hands of those people because of yeah their skin and their choice of religion it is fun to watch you can't hear someone talk about

trying to get rid of the big tent yeah the gop who has expressed about like let's say a guy who isn't into white nationalism calling him a race trader who works for jews yes you can't hear holocaust denial and revision coming out to somebody and not think oh getting rid of the big tent to the gop probably means something different to you it's a diversity of ideas is what they're talking about certainly it's the ideas that they're talking about it's all about the it's all about the free market of ideas it's just infuriating like it's it's not infuriating i don't really care i mean i mean i care on one level but like this to me is so expected yeah like it's not like i i see this episode this 30th like it's so bad like you have the you have the the shit with michelle

obama at the beginning you have the the rashita slab stuff that's just a repugnant you have this long soros diatribe where he's going further than he has in the past oh yeah about soros and his behavior in the holocaust in a world war two revising elements of of the holocaust then he talks about kandis owens shouldn't have been cut loose from turning point usa and the reason that she was because it was because of bad bad comments about the the holocaust and hitler because she had it coming then you have a holocaust denier on your show yeah as a guest yeah who you introduce as someone who you like their work and you're well aware of them right right right like this is bad right it's what you expect because of what alex has been promoting throughout his career

but just not overtly yeah yeah you see the the mask coming off a bit and it this episode is the sort of thing that it's just like well buckle up because yeah a month two months from now who the fuck knows what this show is going to be like like imagine yeah so red ice is coming on owens show because they got kicked off social media because of the you know nazis made a choice yeah yeah so if they're being put on as people who are being deplatformed and censored like us alex has an alternative for that he has his own band dot video site yep where people who have been kicked off social media and banned that's where it's supposed to be where those things go oh yeah now is red ice going to get a channel

on there we're seeing a great merger info wars ice you kind of see the possibility that this network that alex has built info wars and its tendrils like this new band dot video it could very easily be co-opted by people who are far worse than him far worse and also the same yeah yeah and that's uh that's a troubling possibility but it's also i believe what i predicted might happen with the his um video endeavors yeah that if he does allow other people on guess who's going to be on right right right right well i mean take a look at all the replacement the the conservative replacements to twitter turns into nazi racists immediately you're like yeah i get it yeah if what you're if the problem you're trying to solve is a problem

that exclusively or almost exclusively applies to racists nazis fascists um then when you create a solution it's going to be populated almost exclusively i don't know why it's only populated by racist nazis and white supremacists crazy it's it's because you're solving a problem that only they have god i i really you know it's telling the disillusionment every generation has their disillusionment moment with their with the president that they help elect you know like for us with obama why didn't he close guantanamo drone why didn't he stop torturing whistleblowers torturing all of that stuff that i was very delusion disillusion and for this guy his disillusionment with trump is why can't i torture people why can't i drone people why can't

i murder people maybe not those specific examples but it's like why isn't it this white country exactly why haven't we fucking cracked down on the gays and non whites what is going on that was the promise yep that i heard in trump and you know you made it to me don't you and they'll and trump will be like no no i didn't make it to you there's good people on both sides now you know what you fucking said and it's because this side has strong sixth sense yeah they have a supernatural power get through get they can hear what they're gonna say before they say right so i do not appreciate this show uh i think it sucks i think that alex is veering into territory that will very quickly be um so far past the point of social acceptability um that i just uh i don't think i i

mean yeah any any much further than this and i'm kind of of the opinion that maybe we shouldn't be we shouldn't cover that show at all if it's i don't know i our responsibility is something maybe we should discuss yeah but uh yeah when you see this sort of thing it's like wow this this is a bad sign for the future but also good that you're also doing this sort of a shift in the middle of a going out of business sale yeah everything must go good luck alex you dumb fuck i wish you the worst of luck and i hope you fail immediately anyway we'll be back indeed on monday but until then we have a website we do have a website it's knowledgefight.com yep we're on twitter we are it's at knowledge underscore fight and at go to bed jordan you can find us

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