Knowledge Fight - #374: November 25, 2019

Episode Date: November 27, 2019

Today, Dan and Jordan discuss a present day episode of The Alex Jones Show. In this installment, Alex gets mad at Borat and also gets mad at a trailer for a forthcoming Amazon series.

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argument at the Thanksgiving dinner table? Yeah, probably, probably, yeah, I don't know nothing that sticks out as a individual one, nothing. Your parents mainly agree right on a lot of politics. Yeah, yeah, particularly my at least my parents and my brother and I are all pretty left leaning. So there's not too much concern about that. I guess my dad's parents like my dad. He was a men and I preacher and I get a real sense even though he never really talked to politics or anything. It got to get a sense that he's a bit to the right. Yeah, I have no idea though. Really? Like a lot of that stuff never really came up. My mom's mom seemed pretty open and progressive growing up. But again, I don't know. I never

really had those conversations. That's fascinating. That's it. I think I feel like that's a fairly unique experience. Right? Maybe I there's a little bit of a disconnect between a lot of the extended family and my family. I think a lot of that had to do with like for a number of years growing up. We lived in Hawaii right and almost the entire family lives in California. So even like seeing each other at all would involve a cross ocean. Yeah, and then after that we lived in Missouri and they all still live in California. So and no one's going to come to Missouri if they live in California. Of course you're going to take that flight out to very, very underappreciated state flying to St Louis rent a car head on down and we

would go visit the extended family during the summer because my dad and mom were both like teachers. Yeah. And so there was a summer break and we would take a road trip across the country to go visit family right generally during that time. And so like these these like family thanksgivings and Christmases weren't necessarily super common. There'd be more like phone calls right on Christmas or Thanksgiving. The days themselves were nonspecific in terms of like family kind of shit right there. It's whenever you would meet when you visit in person and then yeah those conversations just never seem to end up coming up. A lot of it like was more religious in nature. Yeah, with my dad side of the

family and then with my mom's side. I don't know. I was just like I like that. Yeah, I like that. Yeah. I don't know. I assume you have a lot of more experience. Yeah. Yeah. I am beset on all sides. You're surrounded. Yeah. So good luck with that. Thanks, Dan. I've got it down to a two hour side. I will have a turkey sandwich on Thursday and do none of that. I make a phone call. I will bring some back for you. It's very nice of you. So Jordan this podcast where I don't know too much about Thanksgiving fights over politics but I do know a lot about Alex Jones and I know a hell of a lot about one and not much about the other. That's this podcast about so Jordan today. What we're doing is

we are in the present day. We're going to be taking a look at November 25th 2019, which is Christmas. Yes, that's correct. It's Tuesday, not Monday. Okay, this week. Yeah, my day is mixed up and this is an interesting episode. There's a lot that I found very disturbing on this show. There's nothing about Thanksgiving or news. There is a slight mention of Thanksgiving. There's well. It's a family show. There's nothing really about news. Alex is singularly obsessed with one thing and it gets very, very out of control. Okay, and we'll get to that here in a moment. But before we do, go take a moment to say thank you to some folks who have signed up and are sporting the show. So first of all,

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And then whenever your family starts talking on Thanksgiving, just pop those earbuds in and you can hear us scream about nonsense. Sure. So we start here on the 25th and Alex does have a tiny thing to say about Thanksgiving, but this is the only thing he has to say about it. Well, as we could predict, there is a full on assault on Thanksgiving and any other pro America, pro Western holiday. I'm going to look at some of the real history of Thanksgiving coming up later in the hour today. He does not. Oh no. I don't even want to imagine what his quote real history of Thanksgiving is. Yeah. I'm sure it'd be a little bit stilted. I was, I heard that and I was like, well, here we go in researching the pilgrims. Yeah.

None of that. Nope. Being relevant at all. It's Alex is completely obsessed with something else on this episode. They doesn't get to it immediately because there is a Native Americans gave themselves smallpox. He probably does believe that there is a story out of the UK that Alex believes is evidence that the demon cult of pedophile globalists that is in charge of the world is starting to lose control and because they're losing control, they have to crack down on language. Right? All right. And so this story out of the UK is evidence of that. And that's why they're now waging absolute complete war at levels never before seen on language. And that's why national television, the censor board in the UK, that's the model for the US is now saying they're

outlawing the word uppity because somebody thinks it was once used in connotation to black people. So that's the level of the control. And I would expect the ADL to call for anyone that uses the word up to be arrested. They always follow suit because it's about a hysterical, total and complete out of control power grab. All right. Okay. So can I propose that we only talk about Thanksgiving? And I assume that he never speaks of this again, right? He doesn't speak of Thanksgiving again. No, but he speaks of the not this so much. This is just sort of a little bit of a transitional narrative. Yeah. Yeah. A moose. Booge is a great way to get it. Got you. We're on abuse. Booge of

racism. We haven't said anything specific yet. So this situation here that he's talking about is about a guy named Eman Holmes, who is appearing on the show in the UK called This Morning. And he described Meghan Markle's attitude when she didn't want people taking tons of pictures of her at Wimbledon as uppity. Oh, that's racist as fuck. See that naturally does have connotation since the term has been historically used to describe non-white people, particularly black people in America who didn't know their place in society and dared to act like equals. It's the only way that that word can be used. Not necessarily. There are other connotations of it, but it has largely taken on that connotation. Right. Right. It's very possible that Holmes

himself was unaware of that historical use of the term, particularly when it's being used to describe a non-white person behaving in ways that you have a problem with. But the message is the same regardless whether or not he intended it to be that way. It began being reported that Holmes had been reprimanded, which the network ITV denied. And then, you know, it started to be reported as the word uppity had been banned from ITV. Immediately, the right wing media went into active mode because this was a fringe case where potential racism needed their help and they can't resist that brand of free speech issue. In fact, it seems like that's the only kind that really seems to matter all that much to really get. Well, I mean, you could you could almost use a

certain word to describe the way that they treat this issue. It seems to be like that is the world of free speech that they are only uniquely interested in. One thing that places like zero hedge made a very serious point in stressing is that only one person complained and it led to the banning of a word. That's PC culture run amok Jordan. I noticed the same over emphasis of the one complaint issue in the coverage of the story and RT, but in other articles about this, that wasn't the focus like in the express, the metro and the sun. All the stories seem to imply that there was only one complaint to the broadcast regulatory organization offcom, but that detail isn't used to minimize the complaint where it is in these other spheres. It's used to drive it

even further as as like no, it should have to be a thousand people who complain before they get bothered by it. Is that what they're doing? I guess. I don't know. They're just trying to say like, Oh, just this one person was but hurt about this and it's nonsense. It's entirely possible that there were other complaints to the network, but this one to offcom is the one that prompted a reaction. Also, it's possible that only one person followed through with the filing of a formal complaint. Even if that's the case, that doesn't have anything to do with whether or not the single complaint is valid. In this instance, if there's one person complaining that one person is absolutely correct, the term uppity does have racist connotation specifically in the way that

Holmes was using it. As far as I can tell, Holmes doesn't seem to have a history of racially inflammatory commentary. So it's entirely possible that he didn't mean this in the way that it came off sounding. And that's probably why he didn't get in trouble for the comments. The context was just explained to him so that he could choose better words in the future. And the word wasn't banned from ITV. A representative for the network was very clear, telling the Express quote, it is incorrect to state that this is an ITV ban on the word uppity. There's no such ban on the word uppity per se, rather care will be taken regarding the context of its use. This is a situation where things played out pretty much exactly how they should have. A guy on TV said something that he

didn't realize was kind of racist. Someone pointed out that what he said was kind of racist. And the response was, Oh, good point. Let's try to be more careful about how we say things in the future. And the right wing in the United States apparently can't stand that to the point where they have to manufacture narratives about banned words and shit. Alex's version is even crazier. He's saying that the word is being outlawed as if to say you're going to go to jail for saying. Oh, yeah, absolutely. It's really kind of pathetic. There's desperation to cling to and defend these remnants of a racist past while pretending it's all just about free speech. Yeah, no kid. This is crazy. This is nonsense, man. Like the details of the story aren't real and they have to go like

the thing is it's just any anything, any small thing that they can find, they will attack on that just like my theory on that is that if they attack on those like edge, edge racism situations, then you then we're all over here looking at these edge bullshits going like, No, you can't. It's not that you can't say the word. It's that, you know, like it's always been used in a certain way and that's why we're we're just very careful about the context of this word. I and they turn that into fucking a shit and then we still can't get back to like the mortality rate for black people is 10 million times worse, you know, like it's there. I think it's an issue more of like that's the only battle they can fight like they can't really fight some of the other right on

edge related fair fair, you know, let's put refugees in cages. Now hold on. This is a first amendment issue. Right. Yeah. So that's that's something that I think is interesting and it put this this episode into a sort of like I see where Alex's headspace is here and it got where it gets so much worse because we now get to what Alex takes most of this episode responding to. Okay. And it's I don't know how to tell you this, but it's Borat when I witnessed the speech given at the National Summit by Sasha Baron Cohen, I knew that every bit of it was written by the deep state. Sure. Sure. The very sinister forces behind the ADL. Oh, he called for the arrest of the big tech six, starting with Mark Zuckerberg and his execution. Whoa. Did you do that?

He needs to be punished accordingly for war crimes, which is execution. He went on to or no consequences that the attempted silencing of Alex Jones has not been enough. He says that it was just the beginning and that all Americans must be silenced under the will of the globalist. This isn't some old black and white film footage of Adolf Hitler saying things like that about his enemies. This is the ADL. We see the exact same scripting on the Southern Poverty Law Center. We see the exact same talking points out of major colleges out of mainstream media. This is a unified front of authoritarian danger. So I heard that clip and I was like,

this is I hope he's just talking about this for a minute. No, not this goes. This goes very far off the rails. It's not good. So Jordan, I don't know if you saw the video, but last week Sasha Baron Cohen gave a speech at the ADL's never is now conference. It was kind of a very big deal because for years Cohen's been a performer that very seldom appears as himself. He prefers to exist in public almost entirely as one of his characters dropping that facade and speaking bluntly makes a bit of a powerful statement on its own. But even beyond that, it was a pretty good speech. I found it to be pretty well delivered. A large part of Cohen's message is about linking his own work to the corrosive effect that social media has had on

society. Facebook and Twitter are profoundly powerful propaganda tools which are able to lead people to believe in completely insane things, which has led to a mainstreaming of previously fringe conspiracy theories. He discusses how as his Israeli commando character, as part of the show Who is America, he told a guy that attendees of the women's march were putting out chemicals to turn people trans and instructed him to plant explosives on three people. The man did it and actually pushed the detonation button, which would have killed tons of people if they weren't fake explosives. Cohen, I believe rightly connects this person's willingness to believe the dumb conspiracy that his character presented to him with his prior interaction with online

misinformation. It's a good speech. And honestly, Cohen makes a lot of points that are completely compatible with the goals Alex pretends to hold. He's arguing for big tech companies to be responsible for what goes on on their platforms, which Alex professes to want. They both don't want these companies to be allowed to hide behind the excuse that they're just a space where anyone can post whatever they want, while their operations appear to be counter to that. The primary difference seems to be that Alex wants more unhinged racist conspiracy theories to be posted and Cohen wants less. The prevalence of complete bullshit being passed around his truth online has an effect of normalizing the sort of content Alex puts out. So it's a really important aspect

of his business model. Without the erosion of objective reality, he's way less able to trick people into believing that his subjective delusional fantasies are real. I mean, his subjective delusional fantasy is on display perfectly right there. Right there. None of what he said makes any sense or is true. No, and a lot of it doesn't reflect Cohen's speech at all. Like he didn't call for Zuckerberg's execution. And Alex himself was barely even a footnote in the speech. Cohen didn't say that everyone needs to be silenced. He was specifically talking about tech companies removing content like Holocaust denial, because as Sasha Baron Cohen puts it quote, that is not some random opinion. Those who deny the Holocaust aim to encourage another one. Again, I can't

help but notice that it seems like every free speech issue Alex decides to get on his soapbox about has nothing or it has to do with attacking someone who says, Hey, there's a lot of racism flying around. Yeah, I don't think that's a coincidence. I don't understand. I know it's nothing new, but it feels particularly overt in this episode. Yeah, it seems like a lot of these these free speech protestations that he has are too specifically directed towards people who are pointing out a problem of racist harassment right or or issues surrounding racist speech. Yeah, of course. So just just representing the the idea of what what Sasha Baron Cohen. I don't know. He's not like a prank guy. I couldn't say I almost a performance artist

in in many ways. I think it's a immersive satire. Yeah. Oh, that's a great way of putting it because he probably said that. Yeah, I don't think I don't know if I've heard him describe it that way. That's just the way it looks to me. Like his character is often a satirized version of something. Yeah, and then people's responses to it are the then inform the yeah they are. He talks about that a little bit in his speech about how there are characters like in Borat there. There are scenes that are offensive that he's doing something offensive, but what comes out of it is the illustration that people are willing to go along with right right. And that is a shocking thing to see. Yeah, of course, that's the effect of the art. The guy doing the racist

stuff, which is the Borat character right is satire of that. Yeah, it's it's as you were saying deal with it. It's it's far more powerful coming from him because of its infrequent. You know because he's spending so much time in this character. Alex has to attack him personally just because he popped out. You know he's so used to say like Borat is why aren't people complaining about Borat. He did you know like all of this stuff and now Sasha Baron Cohen because of his lack of character is taken. He's given far more attention. I think that's some of it, but I also think that Alex understands that the themes that Cohen was talking about are things that are dangerous to his ability to operate for sure. And then secondarily he

does mention Alex and passing in the speech. Oh, I didn't know that yeah. Okay, he does mention like Alex, then I throw out all the stuff I said and it's purely because he mentioned Alex. So Alex is going to talk about it for six hours. I think that's a big part of it, but also thematically what he's talking about is relevant to Alex's ability to operate. And so that is also a piece of it. But largely speaking, most of what he was talking about was things like Holocaust denial right being acceptable on places like Facebook and Twitter. Like why you're you're you're allowing this. Yeah, you make a choice. Right. You can not allow it. Right. So anyway, I thought like maybe Alex was just gonna, you know, talk about that a little bit. He doesn't he gets back to it.

But there's another element of this episode that I I saw this and I'm like man, there's a storm brewing and then I shot a very important seven minute report. We're gonna have reposted the front page of info wars.com here in the next few minutes that I hope you will share and then I'll be airing at the bottom of the hour. Zach Voorhees, the major Google whistleblower, probably the biggest yet. He's gonna be back in studio with new developments and intel from his sources. So like I said, I just feel like a really overt, really problematic storm is coming. So he's he begins talking about this complete bullshit story out of the UK about the word uppity being banned primarily to I guess argue that it's cool to call non white people uppity weird. Then he gets into

this bit of a tizzy about Sasha Baron Cohen's ADL speech, most of which he should agree with, but seems to think is terrible because Cohen's main point has to do with the need to remove things I call a cost denial from mainstream conversations. And now Alex says that he has this Google whistleblower Zach Voorhees coming back on the show. That just fits too perfectly. Because if you recall, Zach's big cache of documents that he released to project Veritas were all basically meaningless. But in the fallout of him going public, it was revealed that Zach had a track record of posting anti-Semitic conspiracy theories on social media on multiple occasions he posted about how America had a Zog or Zionist occupied government and said quote, it's very

simple. Either you go along with the Zionists or you end up like Andrew Breitbart, which is of course to say that there's also a Zom or Zionist occupied media. Right. Right. Right. And I assume he's saying that Breitbart was murdered by them. Yes. Gotcha. The Daily Beast reviewed his Twitter account and found that Zach believed that the prevailing concept of free speech really meant quote, free speech for Jews, not free speech for Goyam. He claimed that Jews were using vaccines to attack non Jews of the world. When Alex wants to do the big free speech pageant and mysteriously only ends up bringing up cases where racist stuff is the subject of possible curtailing. And he lies about the circumstances of each such story. And then has the guy on his, this guy on

his show to discuss the issue, who believes there's a Zog and that free speech is quote, free speech for Jews, not free speech for Goyam. You really have to ask yourself what's really going on here. This isn't a defensive free speech. It's protecting racism and dabbling a little bit into anti-Semitism. I think that's all this is. Yeah. Is Alex like, is he dipping a toe for the for the the Holocaust denial waters? I don't know. We'll see. Oh no. No show gets a little closer to that than I'd like. I'll tell you that. God dammit. I am not thankful for this. Oh boy. Thank you. So he starts talking a little bit about a saucer Baron Cohen's point about Zuckerberg. Right. I'll explain that on the other end of this clip, but it just

this is, this is so vintage Alex. Arrest the tech heads that they don't fully submit to the ADL and the university combine of leftists that are now openly suing everybody that protects America like myself and others. Georgetown University is organized and funding the fake Charlottesville case and many others. And their stated goal is to end the First Amendment. We're not just going to take your guns. They're going to take your speech. They're going to take everything until we start refusing to bow down and stop refusing to be slaves to the system. One of the biggest things you can do is we've already enraged the enemy staying on there.

This long is to buy the products. Wow. Yeah. Wow. So he's saying that Sasha Baron Cohen was saying you need to arrest all the tech heads and execute Zuckerberg. And that's not what he said. He's actually, Alex will play the clip a little bit later. He's saying that like, you know, Facebook has been involved in facilitating the Rohingya genocide in Myanmar. Absolutely. And it's like, we have seen these effects. If this happens again, you have to go to jail. Yeah. That's and I think I believe I'll make this comment again later. That is an overly generous position. Yeah, I know. I was when it Alex said he called for their arrest. I expected you to say he didn't call for their arrest and me

to be like, yeah, I'm cool with it. Yeah. Name it. You don't get to be a billionaire without committing some crimes along the way. I believe as I, as I put it in my notes for later, it's like, this is kind of too soft even because the way that Sasha Baron Cohen is framing it, it puts the depths of these Rohingya people into a, you know, fool me once kind of situation. Yeah, that's fair. You know, the next time you're in trouble. Yeah, it should take all of it seriously next Holocaust. I'm really going to be pissed at you. It's it's it's trouble, but you see there at the end. Alex gets into the the ad pitch. Yeah, it's a very clear like, oh, we're going to whip it up and then like just very normal there. They're taking your ability

to say that the Holocaust didn't happen away from you and the only way we can get your ability to say the Holocaust happened back is if you buy these products. Yeah. So in this next clip, we hear a little bit more in Alex's sales pitch and the only reason that I would play even more of it is because I think there's an indication of some real trouble in here. The super giant official Black Friday sales are here 50% off store wide free shipping triple Patriot points for the first time ever and a free bottle of brain force plus with DNA force plus and a free bottle with X two or X three never before done that biggest sales ever. So the new special is basically the same as so many of these other. We're selling off the store

sales that we've seen in the past, but now there's an added bonus for the first time ever. You get triple Patriot points, which I honestly can't imagine means anything to anyone who's on the fence about buying his products because I don't think anyone's on the fence about buying his products. Oh man, a triple Patriot points. I you know the devil didn't do it for me, but you triple it. Now we're now we're dealing with gold. My friend by this point, you're either in or you're not and the temptation of building up even more points in a system that you're not even engaged with probably doesn't move the needle at all. Different kinds of sales are targeted at different demographics. For instance, a giveaway, just a free giveaway.

That's intended to specifically increase your customer base. You have faith in the thing that you're selling, but you need market awareness. So you give it away for a brief period of time to get the word out there. This is a strategy often employed by a lot of booze companies because I have the shop people go around like, Oh my God, this is great. Yeah, everyone loves booze. You know, it's a strategy to get you to enjoy their thing and then maybe you'll become a customer. Absolutely. That's one tactic that people can use offering triple Patriot points is the exact opposite. That's a special that cannot appeal to new customers since the incentive to buy is accruing points in a loyalty campaign that they aren't part of.

This is a strategy that you only employ. If the people you're trying to increase sales for are the people who are already customers, which absolutely tracks with the state that Alex's business is in, the focus of his advertising should be geared toward trying to maximize the amount he can get from existing customers because he's probably not getting a ton of new customers at this point. That putting money towards expanding the customer base is probably fishing in a dry well. Yeah, not not going to happen at a certain point though. That strategy can become very dangerous at its baseline. The way Patriot points work is that if you spend a dollar at the infowars store, you get five Patriot points. If you build up points, you can exchange

500 of them for five dollars in store discounts. Basically, you get a point for every 20 cents you spend at the store and then you can redeem them for one cent in discounts. That's how it tracks based on if you get it all down to it's cold cash. I got you. Under normal circumstances, Alex is accepting losing 5% to incentivize increased purchasing. But this can get really hairy when you start adding multipliers to things because the triple Patriot points. If you do that with triple Patriot points, customers are now getting 15 Patriot points for every dollar they spend or one point for every six cents. If the exchange rate still holds where 500 points equals $5 in store credit, you now have to spend six cents to make one cent, whereas opposed to before

is 20 cents to make one cent. What's that in Krooner? You can see how these two prospects are pretty different in terms of how much of a loss you're willing to accept in order to increase repeat sales. This shit will really cut into margins at a certain level. It's just not a good idea from a business perspective, mostly because if someone is going to be inclined to purchase product because of triple Patriot points, they're probably going to be just as swayed by double Patriot points. This feels like a really desperate attempt to sell things off to the base that he has left profit margin be damned. Honestly, he could offer 10 times Patriot points and it probably wouldn't matter if he knows that he's probably going out of business. Right? Rewards

programs specifically have no monetary value. So if you go under and all your fans are left with thousands of unused Patriot points, you don't have to pay them back for their imaginary value. Are you sure this might be a good plan for him moving forward? Yeah, he wants to just fleece the last people around like create these absurd sales and just hope people know hope they don't cash in before you file. Yeah, this does seem like a if they grab as much revenue as possible as soon as they can, then they can funnel that out into I guess Alex's legal defense and then whenever they declare bankruptcy, they don't have to give up anything and they don't have to pay back all the Patriot points. The strategy that one would be using that looks like this, it does feel like trying to patch

up a hole in a ship. Yeah, it feels like you need to squeeze the base immediately. I just don't, I don't know. It definitely tracks with a lot of the other indications that we've been seeing. It's not a long term business strategy. No, that's for sure. Nope. So Alex goes to break there after I given the triple Patriot points and out. Sure. And he comes back and he's playing that seven minute ADL Sasha Baron Cohen report that he had mentioned that he had made. Yeah, is he using the weird Chinese accent? No, he's not doing fentanyl. The that's good. No, but I'll just say this right now. My title of this clip is not good stuff. Influential Jewish organization in the world. The ADL or Anti-Defamation League has come out and issued a public statement at their

main conference calling for the arrest of the big six tech heads if they do not fully turn control of their company's moderation and content over to them. This is literal terrorism and maybe fines are not enough. Maybe it's time to tell Mark Zuckerberg and the CEOs of these companies you already allowed one foreign power to interfere in our elections. You already facilitated one genocide in Myanmar. Do it again and you go to jail. The ADL then goes further and calls for a purge of everyone who does not agree with them. Insist on facts and purge these lies and conspiracies from their platforms. Ladies and gentlemen, not even Hitler gave speeches this evil and this draconian he just took over and then carried up the evil holy shit. When he said it's time to

exterminate the Uden. No, no, no, that's not bad. When Sasha Maricote says if you facilitate another genocide, you should go to jail. Oh, that's Hitler speak. I that's that was the point in the episode where I was like, well, we're in trouble. We are in deep fucking trouble. Yeah, this is a good. So he keeps trying to say that the ADL put out this announcement. That was a speech that Sasha Baron Cohen gave the ADL. The ADL didn't come out and make a statement. That was just an event that a keynote speaker at getting an award. Alex can argue all he wants that the ADL tacitly agrees with Cohen's comments, but it's a gross mischaracterization to say that it's a public statement put out by the ADL. He knows what he's doing and it's called lying. Also, like I talked

about with the Myanmar Rohingya situation. I think I think that he's being a little bit too generous, but at the same time I understand why someone wouldn't make this speech to be like you should be in prison right now. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a little inflammatory even for this circumstance. I get why you would phrase it this way, but I disagree. I think you should it should be stronger. Yeah, but the more important point is what the fuck does Alex think? Alex think he's talking about this Hitler shit. He said quote not even Hitler gave speeches this evil and this draconian. He just took over and carried out the evil. Is that somehow better? Yeah, absolutely. What the fuck is his point? Well, because he didn't give a speech like that. That's rude. It sounds like

this is just an attempt to say that the ADL is worse than Hitler. I'm pretty sure that's what he's saying. Yes. Also, for someone who claims to be as much of a history buff as Alex does, what with the 25,000 books on World War Two, he's read, I would suggest he revisit some of Hitler's speeches. I was going to say when he said Hitler didn't say anything this evil. I was going back through my mind like, oh man, he said some really evil shit. I would hate for Alex to accidentally say that those speeches weren't evil and draconian because he just forgotten, you know, how evil and draconian they were. I could come up with plenty of examples of very evil and very draconian things that Hitler said in speeches, things that are far more evil than Sasha Baron

Cohen suggesting the tech companies shouldn't platform Holocaust denial. And if their platforms are used to carry out genocides, they should probably have some consequences. Right. It's really hard to say that the guy who is saying no more genocides is worse than the guy who said yes to genocide. Well, the underlying thing here is that Alex wants to argue that the ADL is complicit and actively working towards a white genocide, but he knows that it would be way too overt. Might be a little tough. Yeah. So he wants to use all the rhetoric that surrounds that without actually saying it. Right. They hate conservatives. Yeah. That's the way to do this. All right, conservatives who really, really want to say uppity all the time and those two

things are not related. So this is kind of a double pronged situation. On the one hand, Alex is trying to demonize the ADL because he's a gigantic bigot and the ADL is kind of a threat to bigots because they take them seriously. But on the other hand, in the process, Alex is white washing Adolf Hitler by implying that he wasn't as bad. Alex is very, very fucked up. And the most generous reading of that is that he has so little idea of what he's talking about that he's willing to hand wave Hitler's speeches in order to attack the ADL. The least generous reading is that he actually does know what he's talking about and he thinks Hitler's speeches weren't evil. Well, I would say that if you're reading 25,000 books on World War Two, let's go to be

clear. I made up that number based on his. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, he said I've read at least yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to go with between 40 and 60 percent of those are Holocaust denial histories in, uh, in some form. Yeah. So the, uh, the special report goes on multinational corporations working with groups like the ADL have decided to brand any resistance to their takeover as anti-semitic. This is so incredibly dangerous and it's going to blow up in the face of those that are trying. It's the ADL spokesperson that famously said, throw the Jew down the well so my country can be free. Well, I simply say uphold the Bill of Rights Constitution. So I think that Alex is starting to realize that more people are taking seriously how deeply rooted

in anti-semitism his worldview is and that he needs to come up with a good defense for that. I didn't predict it would involve him saying, uh, that Hitler's speeches weren't evil, but Alex is consistently unpredictable. I'm pretty sure his brilliant strategy for, uh, claims that his worldview is deeply anti-semitic is, I know you are, but what am I? We were far from the only people who are previously pointing out that Alex's conception of his villain seems to pull heavily from old time anti-semitic tropes, but lately it seems to be more of a public thing. For instance, last week we saw Fiona Hill testify in the impeachment inquiry during which point she, uh, she pointed out that the conspiracies surrounding

George Soros are a little more than a modern day update to the protocols of the elders of Zion, which 100% means that she listens to our show. This is a, you know, that was a forged document specifically designed to spread antipathy towards Jews. Alex has nothing to worry about from this sort of talk in terms of his audience. They don't care or probably even support, uh, at least some of them support that element of Alex's broadcast work, but the more and more the rest of the world understands how much Alex's show does fit into the box of this sort of propaganda, the more likely it is that he'll be seen for what he is instead of some patriot truth teller. And so it makes sense that Alex realizes that he's probably going to be accused of being an anti-Semite a bit in the

future. So it's probably best to come up with a preemptive defense around that. They're just calling everyone who loves America anti-semitic now. Grave. Yeah. In Cohen's speech at the ADL event, he discusses that sketch he did while he was playing Borat, getting a group of people at a bar to sing along with the song, throw the Jew down the well. The reason that scene in Borat is so resonant is because it demonstrates how there are places in the country where anti-semitism is so casually acceptable that no one thinks to speak up when a complete stranger starts singing about how the Jews are the problem in their country and how they take all your money. That scene is an actual example of satire. Sasha Baron Cohen did something very risky, going on stage at a country

music night and singing an explicitly anti-Semitic song to see how people would react. And it turns out they reacted by clapping along and singing the chorus. This is like Roadhouse, but better. Alex can pretend all he wants that this clip he has is like a gotcha moment that proves that Cohen is the real anti-Semi. That sort of behavior is so intentionally obtuse. You really have to question the motives behind it. I'm I'm I just got to tell you nobody understands satire quite as well as Alex does, you know, because that satire requires like like second level order of thinking that Alex specializes in. That's his game man. He is all about satire. So in this special report, we've seen already Alex saying that this speech that Sasha Baron

Cohen is more evil and draconian than Hitler's right, right, which is nuts. I mean, I don't understand even if you're a fan of info wars. How is it that he can play that clip of like we saw what happened with the Rohingya in Myanmar? If you facilitate another genocide, you're going to jail. He didn't play like more of that clip. That's very straightforward, but if you're an info wars fan, you've got to be anti-genocide right, Dian. I don't know. You got to be you. You'd hope got to be. You'd hope, but it this. The special report is just it really blows my mind because it's deeply anti-Semitic. Oh yeah already credibly, but it gets. Are we not done yet? So the ADL is going to protect us from all these Nazis. And then we learn their

Alex Jones, Donald Trump, Breitbart, Stephen Miller, anybody that doesn't like George Soros, that was an actual Nazi collaborator and said it was the best time of his life on 60 minutes. This is dangerous, but it's more than just a power grab. It's also about money because the ADL is already paid hundreds of millions of dollars a year by big tech to run their moderation and the training of their sensors. No, no, no, no, no, no. He just said the Jews run moderation. Well, I mean, there's a lot of stuff going on there. So of course, Alex there, he pulls out more rank Holocaust revisionism in the form of lying about George Soros's actions during World War Two. This is no surprise, but I was pretty shocked when Alex followed that up by saying

that the ADL is out for power, but they're also out for money. Does he not realize the characterization of Jews having no morality past a lust for money is a deeply anti-Semitic trope from history? It's almost like he's going out of his way to appeal to tons of anti-Semitic shit in his weird attempt to defend himself from claims that he's anti-Semitic. It's weird. It's wild. He's leaning into being an anti-Semite while claiming that that's this is devil speak that I just can't hang with. It's it's been. He literally says this is the weird one of the weirdest special reports that I've listened to on his show. It's it's so incongruous like everything just doesn't work together. Man, you said the Jews are getting paid a lot of money. They're doing this for all

of the money and they control moderation, which in other ways basically says the Jews control the media you consume social media. Yeah, Jesus. So the ADL isn't paid millions by big tech to train their sensors as far as I can tell. Alex is referring to a 2017 story he read in Breitbart about the ADL teaming up with Facebook, Twitter, Google and Microsoft to create the cyber hate problem solving lab, a place where issues across platforms that have to do with hate oriented harassment can be discussed. I can see how this would be construed by Alex as the ADL being paid millions to train sensors, but there's no evidence I can find that that's what's going on. The ADL wasn't even the only advocacy group that was involved in that project. Legitimately, this

special report is that Alex plays is one of the most fucked up things he's done in a while. It's completely misrepresenting Cohen's speech on every level. It's a misrepresentation of the content of the speech. It's a misrepresentation that it's a public statement from the ADL. And even beyond that, Alex's rebuttals to the straw man arguments he's attributing to Cohen are laced with anti semitism. It's an embarrassment. It's very fucked up. Yeah, it does seem like this is the beginning. Maybe he pivots one more time, but boy, this is this is KKK level kind of shit right here. It's it's weird. And honestly, in a thing where he says they say that we are Nazis, like me and Donald Trump and Stephen Miller, and it's

like, yeah, you all say the same Nazi shit. Like this isn't worse than Hitler. Well, and the larger irony too is that the ADL is said very publicly. Don't compare things to the Holocaust. Yeah, they're kind of big on that. They don't. They've made many public statements about not comparing people to Nazis and right the concentration camps at the border to concentration camps in the Holocaust. Right. Like they they have been the people who aren't doing that. They are the people most likely not to call you a Nazi, which is why this is so weird. Yeah. So Alex comes back after the special report and he's he's seen a trailer for a TV show. New Amazon show features white people wearing red mega hats being hunted as Nazis. Oh boy.

He starts Al Pacino. There's numerous similarities to the hunt, including the name of it. Is it called the hunt? Nope. And that's just so sick. And then the left says we're calling for violence when they're the quote anti fascist funded by the most famous living fascist who worked directly for Hitler. You know him as George Soros. You cannot make up the magnitude of that. So I mean it. Yes, you can. You just did. Yes, you can. He's making up that Soros worked for Hitler now directly for Hitler. Like he's his manager. Yeah, I'm pretty sure that this is straight up defamation. You can sue him and he's making up that Soros funds Antifa. Like that's based on those fake contracts out on four chain. Yeah. It's ridiculous and he's the most famous

fascist in the world. George Soros the most famous fascist in the world Soros George Soros not Xi Jinping. Not not Mussolini. Yeah. No, none of those definitely not Hitler. No, he wasn't that evil or draconian. So I'm not sure how Alex could. This is he's talking about this show hunters is this new show. So I guess hunters the hunt the hunt. I get it. Yeah, so I'm not Tyler sure how he could see that trailer and come to the conclusion that it's about Jews hunting down Christians or that it is anything to do with Trump or Maga hats. As to that last part the show takes place in the 70s. So Maga hats and Trump being president we pretty fucking anachronistic to the larger issue though, which is that Alex sees this

show and decides it's about Jews hunting down Christians. That's not the plot. It's about a ragtag group of Nazi hunters who are not so much hunting down Christians as much as they are hunting down Nazis. Boy, I really feel like Alex connects those two though, you know, like that Christian and the Nazi part. He really identifies both of those as being equal. We'll get to that in a troubling way in a little bit. So the show just released its first trailer and I have a few thoughts about it. The first is that Al Pacino looks a whole lot like Mark Marin in this show. Interesting. Honestly, that's probably my main thought about it. Okay, good. It's just another this right here is just another in a long string of instances where Alex

seems to be running damage control for imaginary racists. We saw him do this with that other TV show a while back about the time traveler going back to stop a white supremacist bombing, which Alex claimed was about a time traveler trying to stop patriots from fighting global is exactly here. It's pretty much the same thing. He's talking about, you know, a show where a rabbi puts together a team of Nazi hunters and he's claiming it's about Jews killing Christians. It's really fucked up to see how consistent his identification with the bad guys in media like this is. Well, they're not real. I don't know for what reason or another, but for some reason he really didn't like the ending of inglorious bastards. Now I don't know

what party didn't like. These people are not real that he's sending historical inaccuracy. It's it's bizarre. It's bizarre. The way he crafts these straw men surrounding these shows. Yeah, but he talks a little bit more about the show here. So the hunt was coming out a few months ago and it was where the left kid naps people wearing make America grading in hats and takes them out to a farm and hunts them. Well, folks knew that was going to cause mass shootings. And so they, they didn't release the film, but now they've released hunters where anyone wearing make America grading in hats are really secretly Nazis. What about the ones who are not yet hunted down and killed by Antifa?

This show as best as anyone can tell at this point, there's one trailer for it has nothing to do with Antifa. It has nothing to do with Trump. It has everything to do with a reality where tons of actual Nazi Nazis escaped into the United States and they're being hunted down by a group led by a rabbi who's pretty anti Nazi. I just, I just it. It cannot be said enough. These are the type of people who claimed that we are all snowflakes. Yep. That's this is the type of person who sees a trailer for an Al Pacino TV series. How long is the trailer minute 40? Okay, so it took a minute and 40 for him to decide a show that is when is it set? Seventies set in the seventies is actually about him. Okay, so there's

one shot in the trailer where a guy is holding a red hat to his chest as one might when they're in prayer, which is apparently enough for this whole show to actually secretly be about hunting down Trump supporters by claiming they're Nazis. The red hat is not a Trump hat. It has yellow lettering and it doesn't say make America great again. It's just red. Other people in the same shot have no hats. Other another guy has a pork pie hat. Also, there's no evidence from the trailer that this guy who has a red hat is one of the targets of the hunters. That's just an assumption that Alex is making. There is a red hat in the trailer. It's so facto. Yeah, yeah, it's about Trump. Okay, so how about the end of Schindler's list? Did he not like the red balloon? Was that

is that the part that really got him programming for the hat? Gotcha. So this is just an assumption Alex is making. Actually, Alex is just reporting on a Paul Joseph Watson assumption. Okay, this is just outright white identity victimhood shit taken to a point of self parody. Paul Joseph Watson's article on inforce legitimately says quote, the plot of the show appears to bear numerous similarities to Jason Blom's The Hunt, a horror movie that centered around a group of liberals who hunt down red state conservatives. That's not really a good description of the plot of the hunt. It has some relevant points in there. But if I were a middle school teacher, and that was the plot description little Paul Joseph Watson turned in for a book report, let's say, I'd probably give him a C.

It demonstrates a lack of critical thinking and contextual analysis. That said, there's nothing really similar about the plots of the hunt and hunters. Their names are close and info wars has turned them both into attacks on Trump and white people. But beyond that, they're very different stories. If you're a hammer, everything is a nail. If you're a rabid white identity propagandist, all you ever see are attempts to make white people look bad. It's all that's going on here. This is pathetic. So we're dealing with second degree bullshit here. They're not engaging with the hunters, but they are drawing a connection to the hunt, which they already have narratives about. Yeah. So then because it's hunters, and they know that nobody who watches or who is dealing

with this shit is going to actually give a shit about the actual show. I think unless there are huge Al Pacino fans in the info wars, I think that's how you write the article. Yeah, but I think the inspiration for it is there's a red hat. Yeah, that's it. Great. I want to be I want to work for them because that is the easiest job in the world. Yeah, but you gotta have you gotta, you know, when I was doing stand up, one of the things that made it the most difficult was constantly being like someday people will find out I'm not funny, you know, like that imposter. Yeah, I can't imagine how difficult that would be if you work it in for a wars like I don't I don't know how you would tamp that down. I see now I think it's one of those things where it's like when you

it's like how rich people become more sociopathic when when you're living when you're riding the bus, you know, you're much more close to your fellow man and then as you get rich, you isolate yourself and you start to become that kind of psychopath. I think the same thing happens when you're in the like you're in the pitch meeting and you're trying really hard the first couple weeks you're like I'm going to really dig down on this story then after a couple weeks everybody's like you don't have to do you're you're probably right. You're probably right and then you pick up a nice booze. Yeah, exactly. Everybody in the writer's room is fucking mad menning it all day three three whiskey lunches. Yeah. Yeah. So this guy calls into the show.

Alex gets a caller now and he has some information about the ADL that Alex should know. No All right. Well, when it comes to the ADL, I think people need to educate themselves on the history of this organization and you can get a pretty good synopsis if you look at the executive intelligence review from 1993 called the ugly truth about the ADL pass. Yes. The LaRouge group did a very good analysis. Yes, sir. Oh, hard pass. A lot of people say that the LaRouge group did a lot of great analysis on that one. I'm going to go ahead and not even engage with this. Okay. You got a caller calling in saying, Hey, you got to educate yourself about the ADL. May I refer you to Lyndon LaRouge? Yeah. No. Excuse me, caller. Could you please say

what you really mean, which is that you just hate the juice? Could you just stop right there? So Alex is into it though. Of course he is. So he starts talking a little bit about LaRouge and he has some inaccurate things to say. Go back to Casey. You were bringing up from the LaRouge packs analysis of the ADL and I'm reading that report. It's like a big, thick magazine and everything. I remember reading that turned out to be true. They locked little LaRouge up because he was a real progressive trying to unify things and trying to have peace with Russia and China and others. And of course we never got that. Did we? He just got put in prison for one credit card statement being wrong. I'm in prison right now too. So one of the,

you can tell there that Alex is trying to imply that there's some kind of a connection between LaRouge's publication about the ADL and his arrest. Yeah. That's impossible since the pamphlet came out in 1992, whereas LaRouge was convicted of conspiracy to commit mail fraud involving more than $30 million, right? 11 counts of actual mail fraud, one credit card, an account of conspiracy to defraud the IRS in December 1988. That's why you don't bank with Chase guys. The ADL pamphlet was released while LaRouge was in prison for the things far more serious than one credit card receipt not being right. Just as a rule of thumb, I'm going to say this. Anyone you hear saying positive things about Lyndon LaRouge in the year of our Lord 2019 is someone you should

walk away from. Yeah, they're either members of his cult or they're just too dumb to recognize what a con man Lyndon LaRouge was. And either way, it's a gigantic red flag. You do not need to engage. Just go go. That's LaRouge is the name that you just pass on. No, I'm going to look into what he's. You don't need to. You don't need to. He's LaRouge. So Alex talking about this Sasha Baron Cohen speech has really prompted something in his callers because we get this call from this guy who's like, Hey, you should educate yourself about the what the LaRouge people had to say about the ADL. No, will not. Oh, man. Then he gets another caller and man, this dude. Hey Alex, it's really great to hear that, you know, you're talking about these kinds

of issues. I know it's a very hot button topic, but I mean, this really is what it comes down to groups like the ADL have been using terms like anti-Semite as a weapon against their enemies. It used to be that an anti-Semite was someone that hated Jews. And now it really seems like it's turning into someone that Jews don't like. What? That caller accidentally revealed a little bit about himself in that brief sentence. He's saying that an anti-Semite used to mean someone who didn't like Jews, but now it's someone the Jews don't like. What does he mean by someone the Jews don't like? Who are these Jews who are deciding who they like and who they don't like? This is some dog shit here, man. I think this guy's been called an anti-Semite recently.

He might. And I heard that and I was like, Oh, man, that framing of this is so fucked up that indicated to me something really bad. But then I was like, you know what, man? I might be guilty of the same hammer nail situation. I dwell in a lot of worlds of, you know, pretty anti-Semitic conspiracy theories that are passed off as anti-communist in nature. You know, I was like, I was worried that I was maybe unfairly castigating this guy in my mind. No, he's opened the sentence. His opening sentence was, I'm glad you started talking about these issues. You know what these issues means to this dude, but see this dude isn't talking about. That could be just us being hypersensitive to this stuff. I'm not. We're not because he goes on and he makes a recommendation

for someone Alex should have on the show Hitler. It's really, really scary to see what these people are doing. And there's a guy who's been writing about this for a very long time. Oh no. His name is E. Michael Jones. And I think that you need to talk to him. Well, I know this. I don't know who E. Michael Jones is. I'll send a link to another day like some writer. All I know is I just want to promote freedom. Americana. So I'm always interested when a caller recommends someone that Alex should have on and to Alex's credit, at least he didn't say I heard of the guy like him, but you usually do. Yeah, I know. But when they make recommendations, that kind of thing speaks volumes about who Alex's audience thinks he's in line with. This caller apparently thinks that

Alex is on the same wavelength as E. Michael Jones, which is really fucked up because that dude is a huge bigot. Hmm. Jones is an extremist Catholic speaker who said some pretty outrageous things in the past few years. A lot of it having to do with how the Jews are behind all the evil in the world. For instance, he said in an interview, quote, if you turn away from the Catholic Church, you will end up a slave, a slave to the Jews, either through their pornography or their usury. Oh boy. That pretty well sums up his perspective. Oh boy. It's not some kind of anti Zionist thing or some man, someone who critiques Israel for their policies. This is a guy who literally believes that Jews are intrinsically against the good of the world. That is really bad. I mean, it's not as

bad as like, Hey, if you facilitate another Holocaust, we're going to be real mad at you. It's not that bad. It's not that bad, but that is still bad in the aftermath of the Tree of Life synagogue shooting. Jones said quote, you have undermined the moral order and now don't be surprised if people start acting out their aggression towards you. Okay, which is explicitly saying that those 11 people who were murdered brought their deaths upon themselves for being Jewish. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, when you're Jewish, you're immoral. And if you're immoral, don't be surprised when people murder you. I feel like that makes perfect sense. Since 1996, Jones has put out a magazine called Culture Wars, which is pretty much just about

how the Jews are bad. He's called Jews quote, outlaws and subversives who use religion as a cover for social revolution. He said Judaism has a quote, particularly malignant spirit. He legitimately argued that it's a requirement of being Christian to be anti Jewish. In 2003, he wrote an article for his magazine that blamed the Jews for bringing the Holocaust upon themselves as well as the pogroms. Incidentally, E. Michael Jones is a big influence currently on one of Alex's former friends turned outright anti-Semite, Owen Benjamin. He's been interviewed by Benjamin a number of times and seems to have played an important role in him going down the path that he's currently on. This caller knows exactly who E.

Michael Jones is and how much he hates Jewish people. He's recommending him to Alex because to anti-Semitic ears, Alex seems like he should be hanging out with this dude. He really does sound like it. They seem to be on the same page. Oh yeah. Oh man. It speaks volumes. I do love it. It's so, it's so transparent and just right on that they, that he said that like to be a Christian, you have to hate the Jews could not be more obvious in like, yeah, if you think about that, you also have to hate Christ, dude. Are you getting this? Are you getting what you are? You are a mess.

That's this virulent strain of Christianity is hating Christ. It's fucking awful. So when you look into E. Michael Jones, you see these sorts of these things where like after this synagogue shooting, he's saying that the Jews brought this upon themselves. He's saying that they brought the Holocaust and the pogroms upon themselves. Right. Which is a great thing to say. And you kind of hear a little bit of Alex threatening in this clip, sort of similar things. It's craziness. It's crazy megalomania by the ADL and it's not going to end well. He needs to stop right now because I'm not scared of the ADL. I'm scared for the ADL.

I really am because this is extremely dangerous. And when push comes to shove, ladies and gentlemen, America is not going to roll over like 1917 Russia to take it in the casters. It's not going to happen. We're right back. Stay with us. So in many ways, what he's expressing there is that the ADL is going to bring on whatever backlash they have, which is obviously some sort of a code for an attack. I am so sorry. I'm so scared for the ADL because if they keep, you know, asking my friends not to be all anti-Semitic, my friends are going to start killing them. And that's not my fault. That's their fault. They did that. Obviously, of course it's a very similar mentality and speaks again volumes as to why someone would think he should be hanging

out with E. Michael Jones. Yeah. So Alex says the in this next clip that the ADL hates Stephen Miller because he's everybody should he's Jewish and he loves America and then they're in the New York Times that very day saying purred Stephen Miller. He's a white supremacist. Give me a break. He's a conservative Jewish guy that loves America and is trying to unify us around America. So it really is like the ADL really goes after Prager and Miller Jews that don't. I guess nationalists or right wing Jews, great people. But I think they're going after him because he's a white supremacist. Nothing unites people quite like building a giant wall between them. Very united. He's a uniter damn. Yeah. That's that's real fucking absurd talk. Yeah. So now

Alex has Zach Voorhees on the show, the Google whistleblower believes in a Zog of course when you're having this kind of a show like you like what it's just like you having this guy on. It's really fucked up. It is. It is so weird to me that we are dealing with a hundred year old Russian propaganda and present day propaganda mixing together at the same time. You know that that protocols of the elders of Zion still being around while at the same time all of this new shit is being pushed out. It's it's bananas. They're good at propaganda. Yeah. So their Zach is think thinks it's absurd for anyone to believe that there are neo Nazis. I don't understand. I don't either. I know that he says it. And then he tries to explain why it's absurd. Yeah. Let's hear this

and his argument is bad. But it's even worse because he's on info wars. You know they're saying that there's a bunch of neo Nazis that they're in America and that they're about to rise up. Like let me just paint about how ridiculous this is. Think if Putin was saying we need to stop the neo Confederate movement in Russia. Right. Like you think Russia might be you know taken over by neo Confederates. And this is what they're trying to say in America is that we're going to be taken over by neo Nazis that that a German political party a century ago is on the verge of taking over America. And it's just like. So that's a huge slip up on Zach's part. He's trying to say that it would be absurd to say the Confederacy would take a foothold in Russia the same way it would be

absurd for the Nazis to take a foothold in the United States. One problem is that the Confederacy was not really an international thing. Whereas Nazism involved a world war as opposed to a civil one. Yeah. Which is a little different. But the bigger reason this is a fuck up is because he's on Alex Jones's show. Alex's entire grand conspiracy involves the same globalists who ran communism and overthrew the czar in Russia and installed Hitler and did literally everything through history. They were the Illuminati Adam Weishaupt. They are now in power in the United States for Alex to for Zach to mock the idea that a centuries old group could possibly be relevant in present day is to mock Alex's entire worldview. This show is it's very pathetic and

often self contradictory mostly because they're all just making this shit up based on their feelings of agreement. Also Zach. He believes that the U.S. as a Zionist occupied government which seems relevant to this conversation but weirdly never comes up. I don't I don't understand why strange that Alex wouldn't ask about that. Also imagine if when the Confederacy lost and they were just kicked out and a lot of them went to Russia and became a political party then yes a neo Confederate movie movement could absolutely take over Russia. Oh yeah or it's an ideology when in our civil war there were like yeah other countries got involved. Yeah. Like a little bun. Yeah. The Russia joined the Confederacy in order to fight back against a whoever. Yeah.

If I mean the difference between like 1860 and 1920 is pretty big in terms of international connectedness. Yeah. So like the the possibility that in other circumstances that could have happened that there could have been. Absolutely. It does seem conceivable on some. Yeah. A bunch of slave owners took their slaves to Russia and being rich as shit started doing the whole thing. Of course it's not as laughable as he's trying to make it. I don't know. It sounds very reasonable and terrifying. But I do think that the bigger issue is that what he's describing as being absurd is literally what Alex believes. Also a good job for. He's good. So is his comparison of Nazis being equivalent to Confederates kind of kind of makes a lot of sense. Now

doesn't it. Well Alex's parents fought for the confederate or grandparents or great grandparents or whatever fought for the Confederacy. Yeah. And now he's a Nazi. It makes perfect sense. Well that's not true. Alex says that the ADL are Nazis. Of course. So I should bear a coin that they're reading off the teleprompter and it says behind him. You know never is now. So never again they're saying the Holocaust is now. Yeah. Of American rights at the hands of the ADL. Yes it's true. You're the Nazis. I'm the Jew. Leave me the hell alone. Me you crazy people. Oof man. That even rhymes with I'm rubber your glue rubber your glue. You're the Nazi. Come on man. It's a come on. Yeah and it is equally childish.

Yeah. So you could get a sense there that Alex is really freaking out like he got pretty mad once Zach comes into studio. Yeah like he has someone else to bounce off of and I think I brought this up the last time that Zach is on the two of them don't have good chemistry. No there is a real lack of not ready for prime time. I'm gonna put a lot on that on Zach. Yeah he's not very smart. He's not very quick with again and maybe socially he is maybe having a conversation sure privately. He could bring a little bit more to the table. Put people into the lights. It's tough. Yeah he's not good on camera and on on Mike and so the two of them just it's just it's tough. And so when Alex is already in this state where he's really mad about Sasha

Baron Baron Cohen doing the speech at the ADL he's had these callers call in really validated his anti ADL is like oh this is the direction to go in. Yeah he just launches into yelling about how he's the Jew in this equation and their Hitler. Yeah and it's so far it's disturbing so far on the show we've had a what a total of four white men bitch about being under attacked by the Jews more or less. So earlier Alex said that he isn't scared of the ADL. He's scared for them of course and that always troubles me a little bit. Something bad could happen to your ADL. I'm not saying something. I'm just saying that if you keep talking like that there's probably a word that we've used that's been associated with another race for a while. I can't remember what word it

is. Maybe we talked about it earlier in the day but the ADL is getting that word. He gets a little bit worse in this next clip. What's happening is the ADL has been sitting back with the Southern Primary Law Center on the left and seeing what they can get away with and they've gotten away with so much and all this bullying that they think they can now say we're going to arrest everybody and I'm just sorry that's not going to happen. Yeah I mean I agree. Well you know what the next move is they're going to false flag themselves. Oh fuck. Yeah. Yeah that's how that's their game plan. That's the game plan. Yeah. So they don't want me on air where it happens because they want to you know I just can't believe it. I just cannot believe that the country's come to this.

So we know that largely a lot of the ways that Alex deploys false flag narratives are to mask and apologize for terrorism that's related to people in his community. The militia community, the white supremacist, white nationalist, the neo-nazis. Yeah to deny that there are ever any acts of violence that are carried out by people in those communities he makes them false flags. When Alex says something like you know the next step they're going to false flag themselves what I hear is Alex believes that someone is about to attack them. See that's I never know because he's done that a few times where it's like I swear to God I don't know if he's getting a text or no I don't think that I don't think so either but there's a crazy there's a part of me that's

like that's like he and you know oath keepers are hanging around and he's just overhearing some conversations man. I think Alex is plugged into those communities maybe and he gets a lot of information from them in terms of just like blog posts and yeah that's fair. I think that it more just might be a situation where he has an instinctual ability to read the tea leaves a little bit and be like well violence is very possible right from the rhetoric that's being put out and I'm going to have to defend it yeah so yeah yeah better get started now yeah and if it doesn't happen then it doesn't really matter but if you've laid this track ahead of time let's say someone blows up the ADL headquarters you're like of course it did they're just trying to make themselves

the victims so that they can take out the patriots you do this sort of thing preemptively in case and I think that Alex that's one possibility I do think that Alex thinks like that to an extent but there's also the possibility that he's just talking shit and that that yeah that is also a possibility that's what I'm saying I'm never sure like you can you can get in your head like this guy is overhearing conversations or getting a text from his buddies or whatever and he's like I know something's coming they didn't get share the details because I'm not I'm supposed to not know that information but somebody's planning something I don't I have to push back I know you're not saying that's a case but I have to push back just in case anyone takes away like

that's a legitimate possibility oh yeah yeah I don't think that's a legitimate possibility I think the only two options are Alex talking shit which is very possible or him having a sense that the climate is right in terms of the way people's mood is coming up on a really highly tense time with the the election season coming you have a Cuban on his back now what how I don't know if that's even I don't I don't know I do you see posted like hey the post someone's posting again you've got you've got red ice just got kicked off Facebook oh yeah you know like good there are these things that are are things that will increase tensions right and the worst that I would say is this Alex views it as a just in case yeah the duration yeah yeah no no I'm not I'm absolutely

not saying that that is that the conspiracy theory is the case but it's hard not to think it at least for at least for a little bit you know so Alex in this next clip it says that the adl is going to turn a lot of people into Nazis that is crazy town and it's going to have the byproduct of making a bunch of people turn into what the adl saying they are which what the adl wants because then when there's push back into Jews in general all that money will float into the adl the adl is setting Jews up for persecution just like they did in world war two they worked with Hitler so whoa whoa we got a the adl worked with a hitler on this one I would ask alex to prove his that claim because that would be something I'd like to see him demonstrate instead of just

claim as he's rushing out to break because he knows that he can just reset when he comes back from commercial and never has to demonstrate any of his fucking claims all I can do is really sit back and think huh seems like a lot of the Jewish people that Alex disagrees with politically happened to secretly have worked with Hitler in world war two tends to weird how consistent that is I I do I do have a little bit of a tip of the cap for anybody who out and out defames the anti defamation league yeah you're you're really you know locking heads with locking horns swinging for the really going for it so in this next clip we learned that Zach thinks that Epstein is still alive of course and and the thing is is that he didn't kill himself he was either killed

or he was transferred out of prison and I think that he's probably living in some island right now well that's what Pashenek said is Pashenek really did run major black op operations I mean that overthrowing governments and stuff and he says he says he's alive yeah I agree and Pashenek's Jewish so you can't make this stuff up ladies and gentlemen it's just absolutely insane I just want justice and freedom and that song is back it's weird it's very jarring it is so yeah Zach thinks that Epstein still alive sure Alex is like yeah that's what Steve Pashenek the guy who's lied to me for years says who I know lied to me yep so I just want to revisit that I hate that argument of like if they keep calling us Nazis people who weren't Nazis are going to become

Nazis because you call them that if that was if that were true Obama would be a fucking socialist right now true that's bullshit there's a lot of examples of people who don't turn into the things you call them yeah almost all of them yeah and in fact the people who are most likely to say that they'll be turned into Nazis are really already there so Zach believes that the ADL is an extortion racket okay of course again the Jews are extorting Christians I've never heard anybody and in his defense of that or his explanation for it is a really absurd rewriting of a recent event I mean it's an extortion racket like the ADL comes to you and says hey we're writing some bad stuff do you want this to go away how about you make a donation to our organization like that happened

with YouTube's largest video producer PewDiePie you know and he ended up you know capitulating and then you know saying I'm going to donate $50,000 to the ADL but something amazing happened when that happened the whole internet said why what are you doing and it was such a commotion because now it's it's known that the ADL is the slandering operation that PewDiePie did the amazing step of retracting his $50,000 I saw that but then I was watching one of his videos and he's like and didn't the ADL try to help it was the whole one about which one of these hate symbols has been banned the answer is all three it's it's I just being I mean imagine being the ADL though where you don't actually go after real Nazis you go around terrorizing people yeah yeah and trying

to extort them from money let's go to a phone call here the way he laughs at the end there is really troubling but he's also not being honest about the PewDiePie situation like I don't believe that the ADL was like hey worse we'll stop if you give us money no which is a bizarre notion then the entire internet did not get up in arms about PewDiePie making a donation to the ADL no neo nazis and white supremacists right right no no it couldn't have been neo nazis they don't exist obviously they don't exist neo confederates it was just people it was just good god fear and folk who for some reason decided that a video game streamer saying anti-semitic things is a hill worth dying on there was a bigot backlash that happened and that's that's what happened he's

he's completely mischaracterizing very important elements of this story that are really the capitulation was PewDiePie yeah capitulating to the bigot audience it's amazing how they can turn a guide deciding to make a public donation by way of a as an as an apology you know maybe not maybe an overture yeah yeah yeah i wouldn't give him i wouldn't give him too much credit for it uh him making that decision on his own is capitulation whereas him being screamed at by thousands of online neo nazis is him doing something amazing and retracting a donation real real sensible stuff from uh zack who believes in a zog he must be is he really good at something probably a good engineer i don't know i know right he's got no idea it's something because this guy is dumb i have

not seen his work so we're we're done like with the content of this episode it's an insanely like it's very difficult for me because on the one hand i recognize that the adl is not the same thing as jewish people yes so when alex is really mad at the adl i don't want to say that that is directly anti-semitic and it could be very easily construed that that's the response that i'm having yes and i want to clarify that i don't believe that there are many criticisms that you can have of both the southern poverty law center and the absolutely the adl you can have criticisms of all of them and i would not say that it's intrinsically anti-semitic or even disagree with the adl or bigoted to disagree with the splc there are fine ways to do that

my response to this and the way that this carried out is that alex is using very much anti-semitic ideas to lash out at the adl yeah um and the thing that he's responding to that they're doing has nothing to do with uh or it has to do with tamping down on things that are anti-semitic in his content yeah and in other people's content yeah visa v holocaust deniers like outright holocaust deniers so when you respond to things like hey um this isn't an opinion this is propaganda that is meant to normalize mainstream um take the teeth out of the history of a genocide yeah um we shouldn't be you shouldn't allow that on your platform facebook that's not the government censoring that is not against the first amendment you have a choice in the matter yeah when you

respond to something like that with like this is worse than hitler's speeches yeah that is not responding to the adl that is an expression of anti-semitism i was going to say we are not talking about uh he is using adl as a we are not talking about the adl no you and i and and he knows and sack knows and his callers know the adl it could be anybody it doesn't mean it doesn't matter if it's the adl it doesn't matter if it's the splc we know what they're really mad at the moment you say it's worse than hitler well and and the thing like the thing the reason i want to make that clarification is because i think it would be easy to hear this episode and get it uh the impression that we are treating it with the same like a means b oh yeah and i'm i'm not and then

secondarily you have to look at the way that alex's audience responds to his discussion of the adl you come in with uh you know like larouche publications about the adl they're like well that's not good yeah you get another caller who's like hey you should talk to e michael jones yeah like you you have the audience very clearly understanding that like okay he's going in this direction yeah let's let's say let's blow his mind with real hardcore anti-semitism somebody called it the larouche pack which uh alex did yeah yeah which obviously was second only to the rat pack in quality sure yeah and and fun so when i when i hear all this stuff i'm left with like a real troubling feeling because this is a almost entire episode long break down about feelings of being

accused of being anti-semitic responding with some pretty anti-semitic stuff well that's because they called him anti-semitic it turned him into an anti-semitic and then the the the sort of repetition of something's going to happen to them yeah um that is not it just really doesn't make me feel good so we end with one last clip i think i think my biggest issue is this is maybe the most in terms of what i've heard recently this is the most it's just us in the room i think i've heard it like because this is really there's still a bit of like linguistic distance for sure a little bit of like you know code but sure but it's very man when you're talking about sasha barron cohen speech at an ad l event you say that hitler's speeches weren't this evil you're you're i mean i

i can't i can't look at that as anything other than like are you trolling here yeah if you're saying that seriously then you need to you need to read some speeches yeah um i don't i don't want him to read those speeches i don't want him to get any ideas on what to say next so we'll leave with one last clip and alex gets another caller a little bit later in the show and he wants to give an ad for turbo force sure and i think that this guy's ad for turbo force sounds very similar to the way that robert barnes wanted to sell it before i go ahead and talk about the comment on topic on hand i gotta talk about one of your products um a little bit about me i'm 245 pounds i work about 10 to 13 hours a day at ups and make a long story short i used to have a problem with

adderall i do have adhd but you know i was taking adderall for its energy boosting properties you know i kind of got a little out of hand and um you know i listen to you religiously in my truck every day um so i tried your turbo force and really it's a cliche this product changed my life but turbo force really changed my life he was a day i no longer take adderall so his uh his testimonial for turbo force is hey mad this is so much better than abusing adderall as if it were speed this like robert barnes was talking about the like illegal stimulants that he was using in college is like it's very similar to those illegal stimulants i'm really really starting to think somebody should test what's actually in turbo force right i like it better that this is just a thing

that keeps popping up to be like i had a problem with speed and hey man your product's great it's like why i used to do coke every day and now i just snort turbo force because it's completely different hey man turbo force is great for when i go to these late night parties and everyone wants to talk about ideas that's not a good ad sometimes i'll take an eight ball of a turbo force and some heroin and we'll just go all and have a good day damn it so weird so weird not a good sales pitch now so we come to the end of this and i feel gross i don't feel good yeah this is bad i worry about what the future holds for alex he's teasing around these sorts of ideas it doesn't get better it doesn't get good from here nope so i hope everyone has a nice rest of the

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