Knowledge Fight - #376: December 3-5, 2019

Episode Date: December 10, 2019

Today, Dan and Jordan discuss a stretch from last week on The Alex Jones Show. In this installment, Alex talks to a trio of horrible guests, accuses Trump of treason, and struggles to remember what th...e collective noun for horses is.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys knowledge fight. Dan and George, knowledge fight, need money. Andy and Kansas, stop it, Andy and Kansas, Andy and Kansas, it's time to pray. Andy and Kansas, you're on the earth, thanks for holding us. Hello Alex, I'm a Christian color, I'm a huge fan, I love your work. Knowledge fight. Hey everybody, welcome back to knowledge fight.
Starting point is 00:01:00 I'm Dan, I'm George workable dudes like to sit around, drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Indeed we are Dan Jordan Jordan as we enter our fourth year. Perhaps you could even describe it as our fourth season. Sure. My question to you is what's your favorite season of lost? Obviously. Well, that's a tough question.
Starting point is 00:01:21 I mean the first one that's so shrouded in mystery. Everything is discovering the island. What is it about? Right. Who is this lock character? Right. What's going on? Why is he walking?
Starting point is 00:01:31 The mystery is at its highest point. Yeah. There's a lot of excitement. There's a lot of absurdity too. But I don't know. It's really hard to say. You love lost so much. There's a little bit of toughness for me in the I don't know.
Starting point is 00:01:46 I didn't care too much about how they resolved some of the mysteries of the island. I thought a lot of that was kind of soft in the last season, but I didn't like the finale, whichever one, you know, it's very polarizing device. A lot of people have different opinions about it, but I did enjoy the finale. Yeah. I would say everything but the season where they're traveling in time a lot. Not that I thought it was bad. Right.
Starting point is 00:02:13 Whatever. Right. Time travels tough to pull off. Yeah. I think I think probably the best season of it as a whole probably. I think it's the second season when they find the hatch. Okay. It's the end of the first season and then the and then they go.
Starting point is 00:02:28 Yeah. Where the mystery of the like the Dharma initiative and all that starts to starts to form. Right. Right. I think probably season two. Excellent. All right. This is probably because we have a lot of feelings about lost.
Starting point is 00:02:41 Also, I know a lot about Alex Jones and I have no feelings about lost and I don't know anything about Alex Jones. Correct. So Jordan, today we got a roundup of last week sort of it was my intention to cover last week's goings on on the Alex Jones show. Of course. And get us through and up to speed and what I did is, you know, we start on the third December 3rd and we get until I had enough.
Starting point is 00:03:08 That is about what what form this is going to take. Hey, welcome back to knowledge find everybody. We're off of our break and turns out I can make it until December 5th before I get sick of Alex's nonsense. That'll happen. So today we'll be going over that. But before we do got to take a little moment to say thank you some folks who have signed up and are sporting the show.
Starting point is 00:03:29 So first of all, William, thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you, William. Thank you, William. Next Keith. Thank you so much. You are now a policy wonk.
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Starting point is 00:03:54 Thank you so much. You are now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you, Matt. Thank you, Matt. And finally, like I say, thank you to a couple of people who donated on an elevated level. We appreciate that very much. So pasta claw.
Starting point is 00:04:03 Thank you so much. You are now a technocrat and Maddie with an eye. Thank you so much. You are now a policy. Technocrat. I'm a policy wonk. Crikey, mate. That's fantastic.
Starting point is 00:04:12 Have yourself a brew. How's your 401k doing, bro? All right. We got to go full tilt buggy on this Watson. All right. Let's just get down to business. We ain't making that money off that heroin. Why are you pimp so good?
Starting point is 00:04:23 My neck is freakishly large. I declare info war on you. Thank you so much. Pasta claw and Maddie. Yes. Thank you very much to the both of you. If you're out there listening, you're thinking, hey, I enjoy this show. I'd like to support these Jants too.
Starting point is 00:04:35 You can do that by going to our website, knowledgefight.com, clicking the button to support the show. We would appreciate it. Yeah. That would be very helpful. And like I said, we're going over the December 3rd, 4th and 5th today. Right. From last week on Alex's show. And they're actually, I think that they're each really interesting in their own right.
Starting point is 00:04:51 And one of the reasons is they are fairly disconnected from each other. Naturally. That sounds like episode is almost a bottle episode. Okay. Okay. Things are internally inconsistent. Some things are like there's a progression going in one direction that it seems completely like abruptly dropped naturally.
Starting point is 00:05:09 It's it's very bizarre. All right. So we're over. We're ignoring our overarching narratives here in in favor of a recap episode. Well, there is one overarching narrative and that is that Alex needs money. Okay. There we go. All right.
Starting point is 00:05:25 Pretty consistent. Gotcha. If you're looking for a through line like on lost, there's a through line. It's that Alex needs money. Gotcha. It's largely about how Alex wants to talk to David Ike. Sure. David Ike is a guest for two hours.
Starting point is 00:05:42 That's too many hours. And we'll talk about that here in a second. But before we do, here's how Alex gets going on the show complaining about Elon Musk. I would encourage listeners and viewers is a lot of you do to actually look into what I say and what I claim because 99% of the time you can easily just go find it. But it's from the globalist perspective telling you how great it is that, oh, next year, Tesla's going to roll out not just brain chips, but dozens of wires put into your brain. But it's essential that it not be done at a hospital because that sounds too medical
Starting point is 00:06:19 and scary brain surgery. So it's done at little kiosk at the mall where you just step in like you look at a Tesla car and sign up and they don't worry a robot cuts a hole in the back of your head and sticks some wires in there and you sign the waiver forms and then you walk out and all your friends go, oh, you're so cool. You're a cyborg now. You're so cool. You're a cyborg now.
Starting point is 00:06:43 I love that. I love that idea. And I would also like to meet the if I know anything about mall kiosks, the very put upon employee there who is staring into nothing. I'd like to get a brain chip that allows me to enjoy Orange Julius more. I think of other stores that only exist in malls. So the story Alex is talking about here is Elon Musk coming out and saying that his company Neuralink was working on an implantable brain chip, which he hopes could greater merge human
Starting point is 00:07:13 and AI intelligence as well as completely eliminate a number of conditions like schizophrenia and Alzheimer's right leaving aside the fact that his miracle cure language is absurd and almost certainly something he can't back up. The larger reality is that this is a project that is not going anywhere. Now you put a chip in the brain. Dan done according to the observer when asked if these chips would quote allow us to ultimately ride the wave of improving AI systems. Elon Musk's response was quote.
Starting point is 00:07:41 I think the chance is above zero percent. Oh, good. He thinks right chances above zero percent, which means it's very possible that he's wrong and the chance is in fact zero percent. Yeah. The important element to this story is how Alex engages with news. We've talked about this before, but it's important and important thing to point out, particularly in the wake of that New York Times story from this from his past employee
Starting point is 00:08:04 Josh Owens, which we'll talk about a little bit later. Naturally. Alex says that 99% of the time you can easily find things he's talking about, but from a globalist perspective. Ah, that's how Alex lies and how he makes it acceptable for his audience to be completely unable to confirm any of the things he says and then keep on believing it. So the globalist perspective you can find on this story is the media outlets covered Elon Musk making braggadocious claims about his company having a miracle miracle cure
Starting point is 00:08:32 implant that will also give people access to quote a tertiary layer of digital super intelligence. That's what I've always wanted. It would be great. Yeah. No, I love tertiary shit. Sure. Most of those articles are critical about Musk in general and more specifically about
Starting point is 00:08:48 how medical science and the understanding of how the brain works isn't even close to a place where something like what Musk is proposing could be done. Experts I've heard talk about it seem to think that the most likely outcome of all this is just developing better versions of already existing technology to do things like improve prosthetic limb robotics. One neurobiologist who spoke to business insider called the plan to merge AI with human brains quote aspirational fantasy land while giving the caveat that it's hard to predict what we'll be able to do in like 30 years 20 years.
Starting point is 00:09:18 I hope that's not aspirational. That's that's terrifying. That's not that's fantasy land. That's a fucking dystopic nightmare. Well of artificial intelligence controlling our very own brains. I feel like aspirational fantasy land is value neutral in some ways. You could have a terrible fantasy. But see that's the globalist perspective that you'll find according to Alex.
Starting point is 00:09:42 Sure. This is this is what you will see in the news. Right. If you're one of Alex's listeners you'll try and track down the story that he's telling you know you know and this is what you'll find and it doesn't at all match Alex's talk of brain surgery being done at the kiosk between the Auntie Anne's pretzels and the hot topic. But that's OK because all the stories you'll find are just the globalist perspective. It's their spin on the news whereas Alex knows everything.
Starting point is 00:10:07 He's researched everything so he can read between the lines. His version of it is the truth which is only further established by the fact that no one but him is saying it. This is just lying but it's structural lying. It's a self aware deception because it includes a built in explanation for why anything you may try to confirm will prove that he's wrong. It's because he's just making shit up. He knows that you can get your ear pierced at the mall and he's just kind of riffing on.
Starting point is 00:10:33 That's the sense. Yeah you put wires in somebody's brain. Sure. I like I like that idea of his his functionality of the kiosk is if I understand correctly there's going to be a weird saw after you walk into the into the kiosk. Yeah. There's going to be a saw that opens up the back of your head and then they're just going to jam a bunch of wires in there done and done problem solved.
Starting point is 00:10:56 Well from what I was reading there is actually like a machine that Musk is proposing and using that would implant the the chips the chips. Right. There's a ton of wires. Oh there are wires and actually it's one of the biggest innovations that people are talking about the the wires that would go from the chips to the whatever. That's cool. Or whatever.
Starting point is 00:11:17 The one of the problems with brain implants and stuff is the rigidity of wires. Right. And how it can cause damage to structures in the brain. Yeah that's what I was thinking that you're just jamming wires into somebody's brain and killing them essentially. And so one of the hopes is that along the way Elon Musk will be able to develop more jealous wires or something like that. Something that could be used in those medical applications.
Starting point is 00:11:40 Right. Right. So that's the kind of like realistic hope that people like neurobiologists at least the ones that I read in these articles were talking about. Okay. Those sorts of incidental sort of technological medical advances that come along the way when someone has aspirational fantasy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:59 As their target. I prefer those things to the kiosk. I'm going to go that way. Yeah. That's my that's my opinion. I would I would say so. Yeah. So Alex then gets around to after he rambles about this a little bit.
Starting point is 00:12:11 He does a full segment of plugs like it's 10 straight minutes of just commercial. Wow. And it's like who this is this is exhausting. So he does that and then he goes to break and he comes back. One thing I didn't add last segment something very exciting. That we've been working on. Third dimensionally the left doesn't want you to exercise your speech. You know that.
Starting point is 00:12:36 What. But when you do it it gives other people faith and other people get really excited. I can't tell you how many times I walk in the door and my children or my wife or my parents or my friends say I was hiking through the woods and up on a rock face was you know in full wars carved or I was you know. You know you need to stop and somebody spray painted it big up on the side of an overpasser. I saw bumper stickers all over cars and it just excites people and it spreads the word and in full wars has been so demonized that it really is now a symbol of resistance against
Starting point is 00:13:09 everything the global stand for. And so I went to my great graphics design folks and I said I want 15 new stickers. Dr. McCam shut please. I said I want 15 new stickers. So he did 10 minutes like a full break to break infomercial. Yeah goes to commercial comes back and now he's selling right back into commercial 15 new stickers. They're amazing.
Starting point is 00:13:34 15 new stickers designs. Oh boy. Put them up on stop signs. I kind of halfway thought he was like we only made 15 more stickers. That's all we can afford right now. That's next week. Yeah. His angle on it.
Starting point is 00:13:46 It's just excessive. Yeah. It's pretty pretty fucking excessive. And I think one of the reasons for that is that he had announced that David Ike was going to be on the show. And I think he was hoping for a little bit of like increased exposure. Right. More attention.
Starting point is 00:14:00 Yeah. Get the infomercial in in the first hour. Then David Ike comes in for the second and third hour. Right. And then about to being money. Yeah. Because the people who are in it for David Ike are just going to turn it off after the interview.
Starting point is 00:14:12 So most likely get your plugs in while they're anticipating the interview. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And then there's like this infomercial shit and like really trying to sell stuff. And then the David Ike. Right. And so here's Alex's introduction to David Ike.
Starting point is 00:14:25 And I think this is hilarious. Before there was Alex Jones on the scene. There was David Ike. I remember he blasted on the scene early 1990s. He'd been a top British broadcasting host of their morning shows, nighttime shows, sports programs. I mean he was a mainstay of the UK and really around the world. And then he had a I guess Saul on the road to Damascus moment.
Starting point is 00:14:56 Complete mental breakdown. Yes. Hit by that bolt of light and suddenly saw a whole different paradigm view of the universe. This is really funny to me on a couple of levels. The first is that Alex is saying that David Ike had a Saul on the road to Damascus moment when his whole perspective changed. Yeah. It would be fair to say that Ike definitely had a shift in his paradigm after he was struck
Starting point is 00:15:19 by lightning or whatever happened to him when he was in Peru. But it seems strange to compare his experience to that of Saul. Saul was a Pharisee who was intent on destroying Christianity. Then he had an experience on the road to Damascus and changed his ways becoming the apostle Paul eventually being one of the primary forces that spread Christianity in its early days. As well as the conspiracy theory that all Pharisees were lizard people Dan. He's the same guy. Approximately half of the New Testament is attributed to have been written by Paul.
Starting point is 00:15:48 Conversely David Ike having this life changing event proceeded to go on Terry Wogan's BBC chat show and declare himself the son of God which is a little bit different of a trajectory. Slightly. You can go find that interview and if you do it's sincerely uncomfortable to watch. Ike is just saying these things and the audience is laughing which Ike tries to play off as people being joyful. Then Wogan jumps in and clarifies that the crowd is laughing at him and not with him. Okay.
Starting point is 00:16:15 Thanks Wogan. It's just so goddamn uncomfortable. That was rude. Yeah. Let him have his aspirational fantasy land. I don't know. I think I think at a certain point you kind of you have a duty as a broadcaster. The second reason this is particularly funny as an introduction for David Ike is that Alex
Starting point is 00:16:31 Jones didn't always have such a high view of David Ike. Before there was Alex Jones there was David Ike he says. Not before there was Alex Jones there was Bill Cooper. No, David Ike is the Alex Jones prototype. That's really bizarre because here's what Alex had to say about David Ike in the year 2000 when he was being interviewed by John Ronson. We have a lot of producers. You just get tired of the real meat and potatoes, the real issues.
Starting point is 00:16:55 So he's gone for all the ridiculous Hollywood stuff of David Ike and the blood drinking lizard people. So what does David Ike do? He talks about the Federal Reserve, the Bank of England, these global elitists, these power structures. All real, all true, all demonstrated by bills and executive orders and prime ministers and premiers and presidents. All real meat and potatoes. Something you can bite into.
Starting point is 00:17:20 Something that is easily demonstrable. And then you've got David Ike at the end of all this. He says, by the way, they're blood drinking lizards. Well, Al Gore needs blood to drink. So does Prince Philip. I mean, it's asinine and it's being picked up by people. And so it discredits all the reality that people are talking about. And that's the problem with David Ike.
Starting point is 00:17:41 He's got a good line to a point and then he discredits it all. It's like a turd in the punch bowl. That's his job. He's got this nice big thing, this nice fruit punch, nice ice cream floating around in it. You know, and then he takes a big dump right in the middle of it and no one's going to drink out of that punch bowl. But is he in need with them to do that? I think he knows what he has to do in a controlled world to get away with what he's doing and be given attention. And he's either a smart opportunist con man or he's completely insane or he's working for them directly.
Starting point is 00:18:12 But I couldn't think he's just a con man who understands how things works and is just a real opportunist. Alex says that David Ike is a misinformation guy because he says a lot of true things, but then throws in the blood drinking stuff as a turd in the punch bowl. So no one ever get into the real stuff. They'll associate the real stuff with this nonsense about vampires or they'll just think it's all bullshit. It's so hilarious to hear something like that and imagine how Alex Jones of the year 2000 would review his own show in 2019. I would go with you could just use the same words. I imagine he'd call himself a con man.
Starting point is 00:18:52 Yeah, and he's embraced the whole Prince Andrew drinks blood thing that didn't take long at all. He's embraced all of the things that he used to say were the reasons David Ike is a con man. Yes, yes, and that's mainly because he's a con man except for the reptile shapeshifters, but he's kind of in on that too. Yeah, I don't think he's that far away from it. This calls them interdimensional. Yeah, yeah, like other demons. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That would be silly to think that lizard where people yeah their demons. So Alex continues his introduction. This is just one of the more embarrassing introductions. Just I mean based on that yeah part alone just like the fact that Alex has morphed into all of the negative parts.
Starting point is 00:19:35 Yeah of his prior characterization. Yeah, yeah, but then man this is just sad. I want to cover the waterfront today. He's been on hiatus writing books, making films. I was saying, hey, I've been on a couple of years. Why should I just have my head down? So Alex says that David Ike has both been on hiatus and also been making films and books, which is not what a hiatus is. No, he's on hiatus from what not making books and films. I guess if I had to, you know, assume what he means. I think that when Alex says hiatus, he means he's not been answering my messages, which makes a bit of sense. Could be on September 8, 2016, David Ike gave a little interview on the streets of New York City when he was in town to give a lecture.
Starting point is 00:20:18 Everything about this interview is super notable because while Alex and info wars are never named, the entire thing is a complete fuck you to Alex Jones. For one, the interview is being conducted by Luke Radowski from we are change. That's a dude who was down with Alex from day one. We are change is a loose knit collective of people with cameras are going like yellow people and do confrontational stuff on the street. Sure, great. They're mostly relevant because of 9 11 conspiracies and promoting Ron Paul's campaigns for president. Right. In terms of overlap with Alex, there are few groups that you could say were more in line with him in those early years. The fact that it's Luke Radowski conducting this interview really brings into sharp focus that it's Alex that changed.
Starting point is 00:21:00 More importantly, the actual content of this interview is absolutely scathing and very clearly directed at Alex calling him an embarrassment for supporting Trump. Yeah. Here's David Ike laying out the theme. The alternative media's basic foundation in relation to politics has been that in effect, it doesn't matter who you vote for because the same hidden hand gets in. So it doesn't matter if it's Republican or Democrat or labor or conservative in Britain, basically the same political class is in control and thus nothing changes. It's actually deeper than that. The reason nothing changes, but that's fair enough at that level as well. Since the emergence of Donald Trump, suddenly much of that has changed.
Starting point is 00:21:47 Suddenly Donald Trump, this vacuous, demagogic man who just comes out with stop phrases about everything without any substance, without any explanation of how these things are going to be brought about. This man who plays on people's fears, on people's prejudices, that somehow this man is going to take on what they call the globalists. And as a result of that, the narrative has changed in these parts of the alternative media from you can't trust any of them. It's all a rigged system to actually it is rigged against Trump in favor of Clinton. And what I see is some areas of the alternative media becoming little more than an alternative Fox News. So yeah, and I think that there's a broader indictment of a lot of quote unquote alternative media, but there's right bar in the like. But it's very clearly globalists. Well, that's a big part of it.
Starting point is 00:23:03 And from other context clues, you can tell like this is mostly about Alex Jones. And look, David like sucks, but I mean, you can at least say that he wasn't a Trump guy and he's guilty of the same things that he accuses Trump of, but maybe moving on. He was one of the many, along with people like Wayne Madsen and Webster Tarpley, who had a change of heart about Alex Jones when he went full on Trump supporter. And this is the most likely explanation for why he's been on hiatus and hasn't been on the show for a while, because he thinks supporting Trump is embarrassing. And don't take my word for it. Here is here is David like saying that supporting Trump is embarrassing. His foreign policy for quote ISIS is to is to baby. What was his words?
Starting point is 00:23:43 Basically bomb the shit out of him. This is a man that the parts of the alternative media are pushing for president on the basis that this is going to be transformative and stop the expansion of this world, new world order global state. It's ridiculous. And why they have it's happening. There's probably many reasons for it, but it's, um, it borders for me, it borders on the embarrassing for the, for the alternative media. That 2016 interview is a shot at Alex. His old buddy, Luke Rdowski, someone who Alex basically put on the map is interviewing one of the biggest figures in the world of weirdos. And the entire thing is more or less an indictment of what Alex has become.
Starting point is 00:24:31 Not to put too fine a point on this, but David like showing back up on Alex's show seems like an indication that either Ike is desperate for attention, which seems pretty unlikely. He has his own big world cottage industry of his own. Okay. Or Alex has reached a point of allowing guests on who are harshly critical of Trump or have been in the past. If he thinks that there's some publicity in it for him. I feel like the slow pivot away is continuing. Okay. Alex, you know, everything you need to know about him, he said in that clip from 19 years ago.
Starting point is 00:25:00 Yeah. About David Ike. Alex has now come to the point where he's a purveyor of all of the stuff he used to say was a turd in the punch bowl. Yep. He's completed that transition. And now it's so interesting to see him with David Ike being like, now I also believe. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:18 I'm also purveying blood drinking vampiric elites. Yeah. There it is. Alex spent the last 19 years drinking all the punch and then shitting in the bowl. Yeah. Yeah. I don't want to play a ton of clips of David Ike. This interview is just standard David Ike garbage.
Starting point is 00:25:31 He's exactly the sort of person I hate to talk about because he's too boring to be like Mark Richards, and he's simultaneously too disconnected from reality to deserve to be taken seriously. Like I just I listen to this. It's just it might as well be white noise. Yeah. So bland and yeah. Anyway, I mean it's it's one of those things. I have a lot of curiosity, but he my curiosity on the extent so far.
Starting point is 00:25:58 I've always been fascinated as to how David Ike got so popular because he doesn't have any legitimate charisma that I can see. I've read some people discussing that and I think that one of the theories that I find the most compelling is he went on. I mean he was already really famous. Right. He was never a player until he got like early rheumatoid arthritis and then he became a sports broadcaster.
Starting point is 00:26:24 You know he was a pretty big guy in in England and right. But if John Madden started telling me about lizard people, I'd be like, OK, cool. We're going to get out of here. Right. So what ended up happening is he went to Peru and got got kind of involved with some kind of out there stuff. He claims to have had a transformative experience that I am saying he got hit by lightning or whatever.
Starting point is 00:26:47 I've heard him talk about it before and it's like this. He felt like electrified and couldn't move and had a vision. Sure. You know all this sleep paralysis. Right. So he has this transformative experience in Peru. He comes back. He goes on the BBC gets mocked in front of the entire nation and talking about how he's
Starting point is 00:27:03 the son of the Godhead or whatever. And then he goes on speaking tours and this is how I've heard it described before like how it transitioned into celebrity on its own right. People would come to laugh at him. He would go give speeches and he would. He was just incredibly persistent and people would like people weren't going because they thought he had a good point. Right.
Starting point is 00:27:28 People would go just to see the spectacle of somebody deliver a unhinged ridiculous speech that was absurd. Yeah. And people would just laugh at this the spectacle and but then a couple people in the audience would be like this guy's got a point. And then over the years it just keeps growing into an organized group of people. Yeah. And given enough time you'll find enough people who the message resonates with even if 80%
Starting point is 00:27:53 of the 80 plus percent of people are laughing at you. Gotcha. And so I think that I mean it's he started that like what was it I think it was 91 was when he went on to BBC and 99 is when he put out the book where I believe that was the he started with the reptilian lizard shape-shifting alien stuff. It runs a fairly similar course with someone like Alex. Yeah. And that is like most people are laughing and enjoying the entertainment but then there's
Starting point is 00:28:21 the other people who are in the anti-Semitic murder cult. It speaks to the danger of allowing stuff like that to go on exam and yeah and be around for too long. And it's not to say that like you should shut down anybody who's saying crazy shit. That's one of the great joys of my life. That's not the ideal outcome. But I think I just think that you know what it's one of the costs to doing business in a free society is you end up with the unintended celebrities like this.
Starting point is 00:28:54 And to me David like just I don't know it pains me because I think a lot of people are interested in him but I'm just not. Yeah. I do not find it interesting at all. I just don't care. Fair. I wish he hadn't gone to Peru. I don't have it.
Starting point is 00:29:08 I've listened to him talking. I too do not have any interest. He's he's just boring. I don't even I don't even want to laugh at it because I'm already like maybe if I'd have met David Ike before too much. Maybe back in ninety one before I've already got Mark Richards like what is David Ike have against that fucking. He doesn't have a new project Camelot sure but he doesn't have Minerva flying him around.
Starting point is 00:29:33 That's true. So anyway not not too much to care about with David Ike and that's most of the third. So we jump into the fourth and this show takes on a completely different character. We had David Ike interview where Alex is you know trying to trying to gas clout chase. Is that what the kids say. Sure. You got you got David Ike on we're going to try and get a lot of ads in really try and make the most out of this and the fourth is very different.
Starting point is 00:30:02 Alex is in a real like they're going to put us into machines mode but more importantly there's a real world issue. It's Wednesday December 4th 2019. I'm your host Alex Jones and this is the transmission that the lobalist post human exterminist are working around the clock to shut down because we're putting out the reality of what's happening on this planet. We're getting people all over the world to talk about and to look at who is actually in control and what their plan is.
Starting point is 00:30:36 We are living in a science fiction dystopic future. The future is here. The future is now. The simulation is real and the globalists are trying to create an artificial simulation what to suck us into it. Now I thought long and hard this morning before I went live here about how I wanted to say this because it's very nuanced. I don't say it just right.
Starting point is 00:31:08 It won't convey the thought I'm really trying to get out there that I think is important for all of us to have a discussion and a debate about. And that's President Trump. Okay. It's time to debate. Now we're having a debate about it. Right. Maybe we should have done that four years ago.
Starting point is 00:31:28 Come on. Everybody. Hindsight is twenty twenty. He had a debate back then. It was just Roger being like Trump. Yeah. Like debate done over. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:39 So Alex says that we need to debate Trump. And I was like this is us. This is big. Yeah. He's already like you know days past done a mocking Trump impression. Like that's a big. That's a huge fucking thing. And now he's pretending that he prepared for the show.
Starting point is 00:31:55 Yeah. And gathered his thoughts about debating Trump. And like oh where's this going to go. And it turns out it is disappointment. The spirit that got Trump into office is one that's upset with tyranny upset with corruption and wants to up in the status quo and wants to transfer power back to we the people and back to our elected constitutional government. But there are large swaths of folks out there that say oh just trust Trump.
Starting point is 00:32:25 Everything's fine. Everything's going to turn out just great. Well we know you happening in the White House and from the information that's come out that that is not the case and that Trump is putting on a nice confidence act and that's good. But that he's fighting first life and so is America and so is the Liberty Movement and that there isn't a full effort by us being politically active economically active word of mouth active and spiritually active. We're going to lose this golden opportunity to really shortcut around the New World Order
Starting point is 00:32:55 and not have to really go through the worst depths of it. So I would sum that up if you know if you want to put that in human language. But we weren't wrong. But Trump is not doing a good job. Yeah. We were right to do this but it didn't work out. Trump is bad but that's not his fault. He's putting on a confidence act which I think is great.
Starting point is 00:33:16 I wonder if he's just saying that he's pretending to be confident or if it's a con man. I think he's trying to think that he's saying the the former but I think he both he knows the latter. It could be. Yeah. So his suggestion Alex's suggestion is that you need to put pressure on Trump which is whatever. He's saying that forever.
Starting point is 00:33:36 Yeah. But more importantly another theme develops and that is that Alex seems all of a sudden to be much more explicitly mad at QAnon. Okay. He he thinks it's bullshit. So there's a psychological tendency to just circle the wagons and fully get behind the president. Well you don't do that by not putting pressure on the president.
Starting point is 00:34:00 We know that the globalist have fought to keep him full wars off his desk because when he gets the right information as Roger Stone has said accurately he'll make the right decision every time but if he isn't given the right information some bad things can happen. Huh. And so we need to be very very active and anybody telling you trust the plan as we one go we all go just that kind of attitude. That's the stuff that defeat is made of. The stuff of victory is what info wars is made of and our awesome kick ass audience of
Starting point is 00:34:31 activists that are the tip of the spear. So big broadcast lined up today. I'm going to tell you Trump's biggest failure and get into it with evidence when we come back then look at the biggest positive things about what we can do and then just so much more today. So that got me really excited because there was a presentation that Alex said he prepared which always means like well you have your thoughts as opposed to just extemporaneous off the cuff riffing about nothing.
Starting point is 00:35:01 So if he's going to talk about the good and bad of Trump will actually be able to hear his prepared thoughts. This is the best you can do if you present this as hey I sat down I thought long and hard so I could make my point we're about to launch into what is good about Trump. I was I was going to say that his biggest failure was probably on flush number nine. That was the one that shockingly doesn't come up. Okay. This first this is just a segmented from his list of the good things about Trump.
Starting point is 00:35:33 Gotcha. He didn't cut anything out. This is his list. Trump's been great breaking the back of political correctness and not bowing. So the first thing is just that he likes the Trump's an asshole and doesn't apologize for being an asshole. Yeah that makes sense. It's not a meaningful accomplishment.
Starting point is 00:35:48 No. But that's how he tracks. Yeah. That's how he starts the list. Here's the next one. He's been great saying America is a good nation. We're proud of ourselves and we should believe in ourselves again and not be demoralized. That is equally meaningless.
Starting point is 00:36:01 If your list of great things a president is done starts with he's unnecessarily rude and then you follow that up with he says positive things about the country. That's an indication this dude hasn't done too much that you're into. Yeah that's pretty much I mean what would that's his idea is that Reagan City on the Hill speeches all you needed to do as president. It's a soft soft list. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:24 He got us out of the Transpacific Partnership that Hillary Clinton helped write that transferred our power to a multinational secret tribunal beyond even the tyranny of the World Trade Organization. Exiting the TPP is the one of the only things that Alex can hang his hat on the Trump has done. I don't necessarily agree with Alex about what the TPP is but at least this is finally one thing that Trump did do that Alex can point to his proof that he's doing things. It's just a little lackluster how for the past three years this is the main thing Alex
Starting point is 00:36:55 can think of to justify his zealous support of Trump. He didn't even he didn't even include the fact that Trump pardoned war criminals. That one wasn't that one might be best left unsaid. Yeah maybe but we get to more substance. He reactivated our carbon industry that makes us a world leader in energy so that we can be self sufficient and not under globalist control. That one's kind of weird. I don't know why you would say carbon industry.
Starting point is 00:37:22 I think he means coal industry. I would assume he means coal industry. Yeah. Or he reactivated our climate change exacerbator machine and there we go. Yeah. Also I don't think that Trump has done quite as much as Alex thinks for the coal industry. A recent article on CNBC looked at the state of Wyoming where 40 percent of the country's coal is extracted.
Starting point is 00:37:43 The article cited a recent report from the US Bureau of Labor Statistics showing a 13 decline in coal mining employment in Wyoming in 2019. And a Wyoming state geological survey reflected a 30 percent drop in production in the first six months of this year compared to production numbers from 2014. Right. According to the Financial Times coal is responsible for approximately 24 percent of electricity generation in the United States compared to 48 percent back in 2008. I think all Alex is saying is that Trump has signaled an opposition to environmental
Starting point is 00:38:15 regulations related to carbon emissions. I'm not sure why he's phrasing that as the carbon industry. But whatever. It's not really an accomplishment as much as it is something that Trump. Trump is over promised and is kind of delivered on. I guess. Anyway. Here's the next one.
Starting point is 00:38:30 He's pointed out that we deserve to have a border. It's not a crime to have one. I cool. I don't think any president in our history has been opposed to borders. Boo. Trying to think of one. This is just meaningless signaling to xenophobia McKinley. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:38:45 I think that that's again really soft. Yeah. At least three of these are meaningless. Yeah. So get this. Here's the last one. He's gotten to Supreme Court Justice appointed that are. Light years better than what Hillary Clinton would have done.
Starting point is 00:39:04 And Ruth Bader Ginsburg is hanging on by her fingernails. And the list goes on and on. So Alex should not be in favor of the Supreme Court picks the Trump's made. Neither of them are really people who are in line with Alex's bizarre interpretations of the law. So he has to couch his praise for them as being light years better than who Hillary would have predicted. This is kind of weak.
Starting point is 00:39:25 Seeing as the nomination of these justices may well be the most impactful thing that Trump has done in office since their lifetime appointments. And Alex can't really even celebrate either of them being on the court in and of themselves. He can only celebrate that they're better than the hypothetical people Hillary would have put in. Just kind of sad. I mean there's nothing really like that's the end of the list.
Starting point is 00:39:46 I didn't cut anything out. Alex said he'd prepared his thoughts so he could make his point. And even with the gift of preparation, this is the best he can do to argue that Trump is good. It's not a deep list. There aren't real accomplishments on here. Certainly not the sort of list you'd use to rationalize why you've changed your entire life to support a politician.
Starting point is 00:40:03 It's sad. Yeah. I do think there's a reason that the justice thing was the headliner on his his accomplishments. The most compelling. It's the only thing that and maybe it's the only thing that the GOP higher ups really wanted maybe is a bulwark to you know maintain minority control until they die.
Starting point is 00:40:25 That's what's so fucked up. I would understand that from them. Yeah. But from Alex it does not make sense. No. Absolutely. Like they're not in line with his ideas. Right.
Starting point is 00:40:35 They must have put some wires in his head. That would be my my assumption at the mall. Absolutely. So that was the good stuff. And now things turn bad. Okay. But when it comes to standing up for his supporters. He's shitting the punch bowl and standing up for heroes like Julian Assange.
Starting point is 00:40:59 President Trump is missing in action. You know that's pretty big as an actual criticism because from all appearances it doesn't that doesn't appear to be real. Yeah. Yeah. That one's strange. And Alex is smart to couch this as like putting a focus on Julian Assange as opposed to himself or Roger.
Starting point is 00:41:18 Yeah. Lest it appear to self serving in bitter. This this way you can take sort of the high road of like Trump isn't loyal to these people who support him. And I think that's probably really a wise way to depict this. I don't particularly care about Julian Assange but I would like him to pardon my buddy Roger Stone. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:37 So you got you got like these good things that Alex has said and most of them are like he's rude. He likes America. He thinks we should have a border. They're all just like superfluous nonsense. Yeah. And then you get like a critique of like he's not. He doesn't care about us.
Starting point is 00:41:51 It's like, yeah, probably. But that's not it. And when it comes to getting the Justice Department. To indict. The criminals or to let the indictments that we know have been handed down. That's confirmed. There's not thousands. There's not hundreds of thousands.
Starting point is 00:42:09 All that made up internet dribble. But there are reportedly at least 20. Indictments handed down by grand juries in Virginia, Maryland, D.C. New York and other areas of. Individuals in the FBI and other areas that engage in the whole fake Russia gate attempt to overthrow the election. So Alex wants Trump to lock up his political enemies. And he's not doing that, which is a real stumbling block for, you know,
Starting point is 00:42:36 the rhetoric. Half of the people who voted for Trump probably just wanted him to put Hillary in jail and they would have been like, okay, you can retire now or whatever. I don't care. I actually don't like you, but you did say you were going to lock her up. So lock her up and then you can serve out the rest of your term. Make all the money you want. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:53 Yeah. Be as corrupt as you need to be. We'll vote you out in four years. We all had a great time. Yeah. It was cathartic. Yeah, it was cathartic. I just, you know, it's it's weird for me because I still think a lot of this is
Starting point is 00:43:07 trivial, but these critiques that he has of Trump come from a realer place. Yeah. Then the praise that he has. Yeah. In terms of the substance, like getting out of the TPP is really about the only thing that Alex can really, you know, like I said, hang his head on. Whereas here we have two criticisms that one is he's left me out to dry. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:29 Along with Julian and Roger Stone. Right. And the next one is, Hey, our worldview really depends on the idea that we're attacking these globalists and you're going to help. Yeah. Yeah. You're not doing that. Those are two fundamentally problematic things for the narratives in the
Starting point is 00:43:47 worldview of info wars. These are robust criticisms. It's a little bit like. It's a little bit like a delusional guy, like giving a pros and cons list for the woman that he wishes that he was dating of just like, well, pro, we are going to get married someday and live happily ever after con. She absolutely hates my guts and doesn't like me. So there's, you know, I think, I think I should stick with her for another couple
Starting point is 00:44:13 of years, but we'll see. It's, yeah, it's hard. It's hard to make that equation balance. Yeah. And I don't think he's going to be able to much longer, particularly after he starts talking about how Trump is also in bed with Silicon Valley. Okay. That's not good.
Starting point is 00:44:30 When he came to Austin, he was hanging out with Tim Cook. That's no good. Tim cooks in bed with China. Yeah. By the transitive property. Trump is in bed with the chai coms. Exactly. When America is being censored, America is being assaulted.
Starting point is 00:44:42 We have AI going into place blocking everything we do up front. And total election meddling and Republican ads being banned everywhere for members of Congress, the president, and he just sits there with Ivanka and Jared Kushner going to dinner with all the big Silicon Valley people. And Trump is letting them do all of this and is presiding over the Chinese communist social score being brought in and China advising the UN on the standardization of the face scan and the casual society, which we're adopting and letting Apple be based in China and letting them give all the code keys, the Chinese government.
Starting point is 00:45:22 So Trump is presiding over the treason of the AI global takeover that will destroy America and every free society. Trump is guilty of treason. He just did what now? So Trump is apparently guilty of treason. That one is okay. So he did get rid of political correctness. Sure.
Starting point is 00:45:46 He is also guilty of treason. It's hard to say that that is putting pressure on somebody. It's hard to say that that's like an accusation that you're making in order to like get him to let you back on Facebook or something. I don't really like the Supreme Court justices he appointed. That's really great. But at the same time, I do think he's guilty of treason and thus should be hung until dead. I do think he's presiding over the destruction of all free societies.
Starting point is 00:46:14 Yes. But I like that he's rude. He's kind of a dick and I gotta be honest. Love me some borders. Yeah. I mean, when you look at this, the balance of this is maybe a little off heavily skewing towards the negative. You know what's what's fun though is honestly, I do think that that is such a streak in these
Starting point is 00:46:35 these white nationalists like we need our borders kind of stuff is I would rather the guy who I literally think will destroy the world than the woman who would let in three brown people. Like it's it's I do think there's something to that for a lot of these guys. There may be. There may be. You might be right. Do you think though, Jordan, when he was rushed out to break, do you think he came back from
Starting point is 00:46:57 break and said, Hey, look, I said Trump committed treason. I didn't mean it. It was just a hard break. Do you think he said that kind of? Yeah. He doesn't. What? That President Trump was guilty of treason.
Starting point is 00:47:10 Yes, you did. To be a shock shock. Okay. At the end of the last segment. I said it because it's true. Bom, bom, bom. But I'm going to say something when I bow. I am guilty of treason.
Starting point is 00:47:26 You are guilty of treason. Oh, no. Against God. Fuck you. When we sit here and we accept evil and we accept corruption. And we don't fight against it. And we give into it and we compromise with it. We become guilty of sin.
Starting point is 00:47:45 And we're taught by the system that sin is thinking of female form is beautiful or eating too much food. And there's sure extensions of that that do become gluttony or lust or whatever the case may be. But real sin is being a coward. It's just being a coward. Just being a coward. That's real sin.
Starting point is 00:48:03 That's the real sin. Thou shalt not be a coward. Man, I have been reading the Bible for a long time, Dan. Yeah. Pretty sure that one wasn't at the very least it wasn't at the top of the list. I bet some permutation of like being brave. For sure. You know, is spoken of positively.
Starting point is 00:48:21 Absolutely. Having a moral character. It's not tops of the list though. It's and it definitely didn't get rid of the rest of the list. No. But that's all sin is fair and therefore we're all guilty of treason because man. Deuteronomy had so many sins in there and I really don't think any of them were just straight up cowardice.
Starting point is 00:48:42 So what I think about that is that's remarkable because Alex is doubling down on his Trump is guilty of treason. Well at the same time undercutting what it means to have committed treason. He's taking it out of the political realm and he's putting it now into the spiritual realm where it's much more abstract. Yeah. It's kind of it kind of sounds like a rather than doing the the classic like I'm sorry I'm cow touting to this guy.
Starting point is 00:49:10 His way of apology is jangling keys over here and don't look at what I just said. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think so. I think it's a way of like I mean if I'm being perfectly honest I think it's a way of walking back what he just said. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:25 Without walking it back. Yeah. Absolutely. I think it's kind of I mean using his own terms about being a coward. Not owning your position. Right. Right. But whatever.
Starting point is 00:49:38 He committed treason and now let me explain to you why treason has no meaning whatsoever and I'm. My definition of it is. Yeah. Completely distinct from what yours might be. Yeah. This out Alex. Oh boy.
Starting point is 00:49:51 We're about to jump into space. It turns out that you remember on the third Alex was talking about Elon Musk wants to put those brand. Sure. Chips chips in your wires. I got it. Alex starts rambling a little bit about how there's a space race going on between like Google and Facebook and I don't I don't remember if I have the full breakdown in this clip.
Starting point is 00:50:12 But basically what his idea is is there's these companies that are creating their own like artificial realities that are competing and the end point of it will be like you have to choose which one you want to go with. OK. And then jump in and live in their artificial simulation. OK. And that's apparently now the end game which I don't remember being in his documentary end game.
Starting point is 00:50:35 But anyway. And so Trump comes in and if he was a real revolutionary or if he understood what was going on and I think he does he would understand that there is a race like a space race or a race for the gold and forty nine in California or one of the wacky races. Right. Race start rowing at consistent who can get their system in place first and who can get everybody the most addicted and get brain chips into the brain and every major tech company the big six say we want to dominate your life.
Starting point is 00:51:10 Have every decision made by the computers interface with your brain giving you unlimited pleasure and delivering you the unlimited pleasure the best. So you will choose our company and upload your consciousness to us. That's the end game. That is Satan saying I took a third of the angels. I want you with me. I'll give you anything you want. Just put these wires in your brain.
Starting point is 00:51:34 It's like a good deal. Then of course it's going to be hell on earth. Oh shit. Once you give up your physical body you're going to die. You're not going to be a machine. That's going to be a facsimile to trick others because it'll be able to mimic you perfectly. And his soul is going to be uploaded and you're not going to like where it's going. So these damn aliens folks and let's just get down to what it is.
Starting point is 00:51:56 Okay. Are setting all this up with collaborator humans. He talks about this a lot. I love I love that. I love the way you put it. It's like he's not it's not like oh my god. Aliens are real or anything. They're there and they're an inconvenience is like these damn aliens won't stop it with
Starting point is 00:52:20 the traffic. Right. It's like how you think about like like rodents or something like you have a possum eating your garbage or something bugs will not get out of my house. Yeah it's it is a nuisance these aliens. So if you don't understand entirely here's what Alex believes there's going to be the enticement of uploading yourself into these simulations that are in artificial reality. Now what's going to happen is there's going to be a situation where your your body will
Starting point is 00:52:51 have to die in the process of the uploading right. So people will go ahead and do this. Now people who are running these simulations have already created completely realistic facsimiles of you based on voice prints sure and all the spying that the globalists to do naturally they'll be able to create perfect versions of you inside the artificial reality okay so they will kill your human body. Your soul will be uploaded into the demonic realm right whatever right right clear sure sure is unclear but there's artificial version of you which is not you it is not your soul
Starting point is 00:53:27 okay it is in the computer and it will be used to trick other people to go along with hey it's really cool in here it's real great y'all should do it so then everyone will die right in order to have themselves put into the artificial reality okay and then apparently there's also stuff about like cyborgs sure it sure it's complicated okay so the globalist ultimate plan is to make us all NPCs in a role playing game yeah yeah I guess so because NPCs don't really have any animus or yeah or any any agency yeah don't do much unless you talk to them we're all going to be we're all going to be shopkeepers in Skyrim yeah yeah all right I guess that's I mean that's it could be worse but you won't experience
Starting point is 00:54:12 that your soul will be in the demon realm or right right not entirely sure on that okay honest he's not he doesn't spell that one out all too clearly all right how this soul is uploaded somewhere else that you're not going to like be okay okay I don't know I just don't know all right we got a squarely in that David I category of like well can't look into this nothing to do here Elon Musk hasn't made any we're going to upload your soul into the demon realm comments at all interesting you should ask okay he is not oh damn it Alex does drop some deeply classified information that involves Elon Musk okay and he seems really excited to do it but also kind of mad these tech heads are already got wires in their brains and I've got it from folks that
Starting point is 00:55:01 literally guard them here let me give you some classified stuff Elon Musk a few months ago had his meeting with a vice president and they're pitching their secret moon base right now and they've already got their big 3d printers they've already boosted into orbit they've already been delivered some of them to the dark side of the moon would you like to know the crater number it's about a half mile right over on the dark side and they're already setting up this facility with these big 3d printers for the mars launch if you even believe any of that I don't so let's just really go further here so we got tron or we got pence I guess sure and Elon musk working in concert yeah giant 3d printers on the moon to create a moon base an unspecified
Starting point is 00:55:48 crater on the dark side of right right all I have to say to that is these damn aliens will not stop getting in the way of this dark side of the moon crater nonsense this is deeply classified information is it is it deeply okay so uh Alex ran some more the bible's true so is basically advanced AI sure a really old rebel system and he took a bunch of systems with him you're riffing you are riffing now shut up and it's setting up a system that that revelation warns you about and so just interchange aliens for demons and you got it these damn demons and that's it I don't I don't know I don't know just replace
Starting point is 00:56:33 switch them around you're good to go replace demons with lizard people were all on the same page now x means why yeah yeah nothing is real who I would prefer to be in a simulation as an NPC than live in the world that he makes sense of it's tough it's it's tough for this to be the positions of a very you know researched really like a news organization he is just making that shit up as he goes along this is a news organization straight up I mean this is just sci-fi I have heard a guy riff out shit before poorly many a time and that long like tons of us say in bringing a bunch of systems yeah exactly yeah struggling for that word yeah fuck you you're riffing yeah I mean I would just say that it probably is just him pulling from like
Starting point is 00:57:23 memories of B movies right and sci-fi shit like just coming up with whatever makes a compelling narrative ancient satan might be event horizon oh also I mean like there was that was that iron something iron sky yeah that movie with the the Nazis on the moon I have not seen it now that I know they're Nazis on the moon there's also I'm going to continue not there's conspiracy theories of Nazis on the dark side of the moon show back quite a ways I mean there's just there's a lot of things that he's sort of pulling from in order to build up this narrative but he's not going to back down okay from this pretending that this moon base conspiracy like this classified information is real came back down from a moon base and then he starts shitting on
Starting point is 00:58:06 sure you know I just really released super classified information about the moon base they're already building we'll see if I'm dead in a week I really don't care haha yeah sad man sad I don't know I don't know man I just don't know I I I just I'm starting to see all of these people as as like one giant convention and they all just have booths right next to each other and they're all all kind of hate each other yeah and all of their signs say don't listen to the guy next to me yeah I'm the one who's got the real information except when they sort of can use each other for yeah validation or like added promotion yeah something like yeah they
Starting point is 00:59:01 every now and then there's a Taco Bell and a Baskin Robbins in the same restaurant they come into each other's orbit as is convenient to to to an extent like in the same way that Mike Cernovich had a little season at info yeah yeah and that ended yeah you have these people they drift into each other's uh spheres of influence and then right it's like a premier league and somebody somebody gets relegated at the end of every year yeah yeah so alex embarks on what I would describe as a derivative standard boring rant about the devil okay and it goes on for quite a while and it's not notable where does he stand on the devil anti okay just wanted to be clear strongly okay gotcha very um I haven't gotten any indications yet so I just want to be
Starting point is 00:59:50 I appreciate you asking for clarification on that lest anyone be confused so he has this long boring rant about the devil and it's not notable in any way except for how he ends it and we are overrun with these slugs and then fellow humans that sold out to the gremlin the chief loser so if trump doesn't fight the ai takeover and lets it go through then trump is an agent of satan so now we're opening up even the suggestion the trump is an agent of satan as opposed to just he is committed treason so I think I think we're getting a pretty strong sense that uh alex is really flirting with uh I think he thinks it's a threat though like I think yeah yeah I get the sense that he feels like it feels in some ways like especially because he framed this as like
Starting point is 01:00:46 we have to put pressure on trump yeah I feel like this is his way of putting pressure on him you're like I'm willing to say stuff like this yeah you understand I'm going to be gone and I don't think trump gives a shit no absolutely now that's where things get really interesting because we're recording this on monday the ninth and just this morning oh and shroyer showed up at the uh the impeachment hearing in the house and started yelling about a bunch of stuff and had to be escorted out yeah so now I don't have uh because it hasn't happened yet when we're recording this I don't know what alex's response to this is going to be probably giddy yeah giddiness yeah yeah but if you really look at it what's very interesting is what they have done by doing this stunt
Starting point is 01:01:28 it's not in dear themselves to trump at all they have made it that much more likely that trump will not do the things that they want to do like they want him to enact all this social media stuff in order to get them access to facebook and twitter and then and youtube again they want him to do all these things that would directly benefit them and by disrupting the impeachment inquiry I think the optics are impossible for for trump to do anything that signals support for info wars right because then it becomes it appears transactional to an extent right which we're going we're going pretending to be a news organization but doing completely activist nonsense yeah trying to scream down jerry I mean that's literally the fucking boston bombing press conference yeah yeah
Starting point is 01:02:16 absolutely but you know I mean that was still like governor de vol patrick and like official people doing that press conference this is the fucking house it's a little bit different I will admit like the scale is different yeah and oh and treyer had to fly in to do that yeah he wasn't already there yeah it's pretty like it's an intense disruption yeah I honestly don't think it's meaningful in any way other than to demonstrate like info wars desperate desire for attention for for you know coverage yeah because that is like I mean that's the only thing that he was trending yeah exactly because of that yeah yeah so so that's which which great job media you're killing it sure yeah that's good I mean that's good for them I guess they pull off a publicity stunt like this
Starting point is 01:03:05 and it feeds them whatever attention they need for a little bit yeah but it can't possibly get them to where they need to be with trump so while you have alex going on this rant about you know like trump may be an agent of satan which really appears to be like him be like I'm leaving I'm leaving you can stop me I'm leaving yep they go and pull this publicity stunt which makes it that much less likely that trump is going to do the thing that they're asking him to do for them not to leave it's almost like a self-fulfilling prophecy I mean either that or it's just an admission that they realize he was never going to do it in the fucking first place possibly and they're like if anything's gonna happen we have to make it happen ourselves and we can't
Starting point is 01:03:45 rely on trump obviously yeah which we should have known from the jump yeah it's really hard to tell the motives that exist outside of just sheer publicity hunting like it's kind of tough to tell where they're like what are you trying to do here yeah but I mean number one is always going to be I want to get info worth trending right that's number one on the list regardless of anything yes that's definitely true yeah then the question becomes like is there some other thing you think this will achieve right and I just don't I don't I don't know I think I think it actually I think it hurts them probably with trump yeah yeah I see that especially because I don't mean I don't pretend to understand how trump thinks but I would assume nonsensically sure yeah I would assume
Starting point is 01:04:29 that even he would be like god damn it I'm sure I show up in yelling there is not good no uh let's see are there any positive I mean other than once again turning the hearings into a circus which I guess is the only thing that trump would enjoy about that you know yeah that's that's it but it's a short lived circus yeah he's removed and they can move along with our business right it's not like it has an impact on the actual hearings right I don't know it's it's interesting but I I I look at more from that prism of like this is shooting yourself in the foot and I don't know if alex under like really and I might be wrong I might be wrong I mean trump's fucking pardoning war criminals yeah I don't know I
Starting point is 01:05:19 it seems like that would be a short leap to being like you it you disrupted the impeachment hearing roger stone goes free right right every hey depending on what you disrupt you get a different prisoner pardon yeah I got you in a sane world that doesn't happen no I don't know where we are exactly yeah so alex gets into yelling about how there's no men anymore because men would fight the globalists sure if there were men but there aren't there aren't especially not trump no well maybe okay we have to see okay where the average man I know if they were aware of what was happening and and and and ever felt the animating contest of engaging this and saying no to it and turned their discernment on would never I hate that word want to just screw off and play games all day
Starting point is 01:06:12 but men are arrested on average at about age 12 and women are arrested at about about age 10 what and get the fuck out of here you just made that up shut up because people have not been through persecution they've not been through adversity I thought it was fucking puberty is all of that's been taken away it's why they banned 20 years ago dodgeball and then the now most schools have banned running during recess they're trying to get rid of exercise itself I mean they they just want you as weak as possible as possible and oh now they're banning you know old Rudolph the red nose reindeer ranking in bad start animation because some of the other reindeer mean to him he has a red
Starting point is 01:07:05 nose it's a story of overcoming and he has a gift and and the and the other ones are inherently jealous of it I will say on the one hand I'm glad that Alex can interpret the meaning of Rudolph the red nose. I say that's a good point at this point with like children's stories I think his batting average is pretty bad yeah so at least this one is yeah those are the reindeers we're jealous yeah of him I'm trying to figure out who the bad guy is that he would probably like the only guy I respect is Darth Vader in this whole situation like in Rudolph yeah yeah who's the who's the Darth Vader of rub rub Rudolph I don't know one of the other reindeer I guess his dad oh man he probably identifies so much with Rudolph though good be his dad was probably like
Starting point is 01:07:53 he'll never make anything and he was like shut up dad so also Jordan you should tell you there's no one's banning Rudolph the red nose reindeer I just disagree I have done it now Alex is just talking about a video that the Huffington Post put out last year around Christmas which they even clarified was meant in jest it was more or less just a compilation of people joking on Twitter about how the story of Rudolph is problematic so of course this became the focus of a right wing outrage actually in the 2018 war on Christmas God everybody is too bad and now I guess we're doing it again yeah no one banned Rudolph it was just a dumb Huffington Post article that people like Donald Trump Jr overreacted to and that is an example Alex can come up with when
Starting point is 01:08:34 he's talking about kids these days they don't have any adversity they don't have any persecution it's arresting their development the globalists are trying to get rid of soul cycle now what is what's next ridiculous what's next ridiculous I was 15 20 years ago yeah when you first got arrested when they outlawed three years too late yeah yeah it was a tough time it's a tough time for us all we could do was ribbon dance why do you all why do all women all women get arrested at 10 is that a is that like the Israeli draft kind of thing oh okay rest development I think it was just making up those numbers got you I'm not I'm gonna go with that so each of these episodes the third the fourth and the fifth all have terrible guests on them sure we had David Ike
Starting point is 01:09:21 on the third hero ball and on the fourth we've got Gavin McGinnis no leader of the proud boys even though he's not anymore he still always will be yeah no kidding so Gavin a lot of this is about China a lot of the interviews about China I was wondering what the proud boys thoughts on China were well again he's not with the proud boys anymore sure he's not he's I want to be clear about this because what he's going to say is going to sound like tremendously racist and it's I don't know if it is as bad as it sounds it's only monumentally racist he does clarify that what he's taught he's Chinese Americans people who have moved to America you know they they are very compatible with the United States okay the west western culture sure but China itself
Starting point is 01:10:12 the way China operates is incompatible with the United States okay so he's talking about he's making a relative like the government is not the people kind of he's trying to make that argument yes okay in in fairness to him okay but here is just something dumb like the way they see life over there is totally different than the way we see life they don't value it the same way we do I'm glad you make that point you know Asian Americans and I'm not doing some virtue signaling ass-kissing thing they statistically are the biggest supporters of Trump in a non-white population so um Alex you're saying that Asian Americans are the largest block that supports Trump outside of the white population I'm gonna go with Hispanics I should
Starting point is 01:11:00 tell you that in the 2016 election Trump won approximately 27 percent of the Asian American vote and that's in the most generous polls some have suggested the number could be much lower than that the Asian American legal defense and education fund did a more in-depth survey and they found an 18 percent support for Trump which puts him lower than previous Republican presidential candidates Mitt Romney and John McCain their polling showed some pretty troubling indications of eroding support for the GOP in Asian American communities in 2016 like they're finding that 20 percent of self-identified Republicans voted for the Democratic candidate okay that's probably not good no Republicans or Trump no and that trend has not stopped
Starting point is 01:11:43 Vox published an article in May 2019 with the headline quote Trump could be turning Asian Americans into reliable Democratic voters part of this was based on a 49 percent Democratic voting rate in the Asian American community community in the 2014 midterm compared to a 77 percent of Asian American votes going to Democrats in 2018 oh boy I'm not sure what Alex is what he's saying is true that the Asian American community is Trump's largest block of support outside of white people but he's presenting it as if it's true if he believes that's true that is a sad brag considering the overwhelming evidence is that the community is moving pretty solidly to the left and a lot of that is directly in response to Trump's rhetoric and actions particularly
Starting point is 01:12:28 literally surrounding immigrants which is even more likely to create a severe backlash in order to try and maintain a minority white rule over god I hate these people so so annoying a lot of this Gavin interview it's it's not very long and it's just kind of boring they don't throw any axes or some shit don't they always get together and like hit each other slap fight a little bit yeah yeah yeah not really um what it what it is is largely Gavin just saying like flippantly offensive things and like what's the value in listening to that who gives a shit trying to be a trying to be probably provocateur funny yeah sure and then like citing things that Milo posted on telegram and like oh making constant references to Tommy Robinson great and you know so it's like okay
Starting point is 01:13:18 cool cool man yeah it's just a meaningless interview and but there is this funny point that he's complaining about people at like uh you know he gets into arguments about abortion with them right and uh you know he's you know what they say that they're pro-death now they don't even hell yeah I do don't even say that they're uh you'll see you'll I think there's something else going on that Gavin may not realize you know we say we're pro-life of anti-abortion they're pro-deaths here in New York City it's they're so radical that I've met many people who go yeah abortion is murder and I'm for it I'm pro-murder and you sort of go well I don't know where to go with this argument here that's exactly yeah there you go yeah I was gonna say yes
Starting point is 01:14:03 of course they want to end the conversation that's that's people going fine yeah shut up I leave no no no that yeah that's saying I don't want to have this conversation yeah you suck yeah absolutely I love death oh oh oh you guys you guys are not even pro-choice anymore you're pro-death sure I'm pro-death leave me alone yeah go away it's uh it's the same thing with Alex talking about people at abortion rallies yeah uh saying that they're fucking with you yeah they don't want to engage with you yeah you're an asshole yeah so Gavin you know is his little interview and then he's gone and Alex gets back into plugging and uh man a lot of the time he's just talking about a greatest products are and how you need to shop with info wars to save info wars you know that
Starting point is 01:14:52 that kind of thing right it's uh this plug ends on a little bit of a different note where he's saying if you spend money anywhere else you're supporting something pretty bad okay huge sales running right now in full war store dot com or triple eight two five three three one three nine and listen if you shop at wal-mart or dick sporting goods or target they're funding anti-gun transgenderism where they go in and trick five-year-olds to have their rights taken away and then then then prepared into a squeeze shoot to have their penises and testicles chopped off by satanic cult that runs the planet this is all mainstream news ladies and gentlemen it's it's that insane as a family show okay so yeah if you chop out dick sporting goods your dick's gonna get chopped
Starting point is 01:15:34 off got it okay that's uh uh boy i i do like that method of uh inspiring a sales yeah i don't really understand where else he has to go from a marketing perspective like we've we've turned we've turned this from like extreme panic to like you know you need to support me by buying products we're gonna be gone any year if you don't buy our products if you buy from anyone else they'll cut your kids genitals off yes i don't know what else i don't know what the escalation can possibly be if this doesn't work yeah i think you should have pulled it back one step and been like freedom fries if you if you buy anywhere else you're supporting the french or something like that and then later on you can go to your kids are gonna have their their genitals chopped off man that
Starting point is 01:16:22 didn't play back the last time we tried fair enough fair enough it was roundly marked so he comes back comes back for break after this ad pitch and pop quiz what does alex believe in pre or post trip rapture oh he's a post trip rapture all the way he bet he is hell yeah you know what it turns out he's pre trip no globalists created pre trip panel everybody's gonna be taking the chips around you world government christians getting persecuted but you're not going to get persecuted because you think a rapture is coming that is in the bible is it armageddon is it a five-year-old could read it and understand it could he but the big lie of the pre-tribulation rapture is only 180 years old and was developed by the
Starting point is 01:17:13 illuminati oh and boy has it worked kind of like the cue movement oh there's no need to do anything it's all handled by somebody else man he is really swinging on cue like he's been pretty subdued on that note he's made overtures towards being against it but of course also sort of a cool with it back when he was trying to do his own version yeah with jealous jealous of it for sure certainly yeah yeah yeah but now these this stretch he really seems to be like taking some shots seems to hate them yeah i think he's i think this is like a whole he's having a rough time now that he's got a turn on trump he's he's just like fuck it i hate that i'm finally going to tell the truth if you hey if you're starting to turn on trump and it would
Starting point is 01:17:59 lend yourself to be anti cue absolutely it's one of the easiest mockable things that is staunchly pro yeah oh yeah it's right there so yeah i mean it almost could be seen as another layer yeah of that and it's also a real dick thing for him to say that their whole idea is no no no everybody else has handled it while his whole idea is pay me money and i will handle it for you right by yelling yeah exactly which he does a lot i believe that he continues to yell about the rapture and how much he believes revelation literally we are going to be living on literal hell on earth billions are going to die it's going to be spectacular and there's going to be a great falling away from you what churches when the crisis ruling and nobody's
Starting point is 01:18:48 being raptured and that's good because they're going to go to the real church that is inside of them and their relationship with god and it's going to be a revival the likes of which we've never seen and you are going god is going to send back that's why the universe works people read the bowels this is crazy like we're uploaded to god and the people then and then and then the prophets are going to come back and then they're going to get killed and then rise again right up in front of everybody in Jerusalem and the antichrist all of them won't be able to kill these people you imagine that point when the when that when they see their god satan broken and can't even kill two men you think about that you're going to see all of it you're going to see prophecy fulfilled
Starting point is 01:19:29 you're going to see the devil and chains okay so i i kind of i i kind of honestly believe that if he if he was if he was pre trip raptured he'd be pissed probably i think he would i think he would want to take a swing at god yeah well i mean the hardship is half of the fun for yeah exactly like the the concept of living through the trip elation is being so i'm so strong i survived the whole thing even though billions died i didn't that's like his amazing race yeah whatever like his version of i got to challenge myself at that yeah okay cool man all right so alex is like it's a lot of this there's a lot of this a lot of devil rant right a lot of revelation talk sure but then he gets blindsided by some news the truth the fact that those two
Starting point is 01:20:24 just step down that could either mean they're putting worse globalist in or that could mean trumps moved against him because he's got the power under those executive operations to remove those people i mean let me tell you stuff is not what it seems the united states it's a giant scientific war machine okay so i i didn't realize that started where it did this is a story that alex's it's come to his attention thanks to someone post putting it up on the screen that two google execs uh stepped down so on the third news broke that larry page and sir gay brian were stepping down from their executive roles at google's parent company excuse me alphabet yeah i should remind you that alex is reporting this as if it's breaking news in the third hour of his show on the
Starting point is 01:21:06 fourth he can't possibly be doing any preparation for his shows or else he would have seen this news on the morning of the fourth before he started it's just inconceivable that his process is anything other than people show him headlines and then he riffs on them yeah as for the actual story page and brane both retained their seats on the board of directors and maintained their voting control in the direction of alphabet they just stepped down from their roles as ceo and president of alphabet respectively the reason for this was that they decided that having two presidents and two ceos for alphabet and google was kind of redundant and that the management structure would work better if those redundancies were phased out as such in the announcement of their stepping down it
Starting point is 01:21:45 was also announced that google ceo sundar pachai was going to be taking over as the ceo of alphabet as well as staying on as the ceo of google it's corporate restructuring yeah so ultimately what you have here is an article that alex didn't read and he's just guessing things about he thinks they're going to either bring in worse globalist or trump is making his move but in reality it's just a streamlining decision and he would know that if he'd read the article yeah i think the way alex is reporting the story is partially an attempt to not fully turn on trump just yet his entire gripe with trump is how he won't take action against these tech companies and you can see how eager alex is to take this headline that he knows nothing about and turn it into a possibility this is the
Starting point is 01:22:26 long-awaited answer to his prayers he's looking for excuses not to turn but i think he's just going to keep coming up empty-handed i don't think it's going to work out yeah i mean because everything that he thought trump was going to do is imaginary and he wasn't going to do it from the first place right that's just you just can't live on imaginary food for that long this is a hook no can't do that slop no brightly colored slop that's gross yeah that stuff was gross so alex gets into a little bit of a bad headspace as this show winds down and he starts screaming about how he's going to start a bunch of new shows which he always does yes now old man house phone coming back here's what's great about this in the past alex has always talked about how he's going to go to 24 hours and he's
Starting point is 01:23:12 going to give all of these people shows absolutely there's a slight difference in how he's talking about it now see if you can pick out the difference it might be obvious you know what supposed to get a haircut at 330 but i can get back here and host the last couple hours of the war room and fire power and i mean i hell i'll just do a whole another show by the way i'm going to start i'm committed to the next 300 and 34 days i'm doing shows seven days a week and i'm starting a new show very soon i'll let you know about it actually i'm running two new shows a day so there's gonna be two new shows a day the next three and three four days two new shows a day that i'm gonna be doing myself i need to step up that's not good he's going to be hosting three shows a day that's not good no
Starting point is 01:24:00 i i can't i can barely fill the three hours that i'm on today and now i'm going to go to at least nine total hours a day a couple more hours of me talking about the devil i don't because it's coming i i wish it wasn't so the main difference here is he doesn't have to pay anybody else exactly yeah i was going to hire people who just called in and i assumed that they were good enough for a show but man it's just got to be me it's just got to be me i think what you see here is i think it's pretty well reflected in like what the times that i've gone to band dot video is youtube clone or whatever yeah you go and you look at like anything that are the other hosts like david knight or oan treuer they are such diminished audience numbers right paul joseph
Starting point is 01:24:49 watson also isn't as much as alex but that's because you know you at he's also elsewhere yeah there is no need to bottle net there yeah whereas alex's numbers are pretty decent and if i had to guess i would say that his ability to drive sales is profoundly better than these other hosts so when he does this even if he's not paying people like the callers the call in host show or whatever yeah yeah even if he's not paying them he's still losing money because he has to have the crew there right he still has to the bandwidth or whatever right his overhead is so high because our call in hosted show is not going to move the product in the same way that alex is absolutely with his like if you buy from hobby lobby your kids genitals cut off yeah that one
Starting point is 01:25:36 will do it yeah a old man house phone definitely isn't just going to scream out that walmart's going to chop your kid's dick off right that's true if alex thinks that in the next year in order to make things right make things like the ledger balance i'm going to have to do three shows a day yeah that's not good three hours is too much for him to be doing of this a day yeah absolutely it's not good um adding more oh my god i i honestly think that'll destroy me yeah if i try and listen to his three shows you're not you're not allowed at the same time i swear to god i will take your computer away from you at the same time the content that will be an hour eight will be unbelievably on him will be ridiculous yeah that's true also he's not going to do this he'll be on
Starting point is 01:26:23 he'll have to be on speed at that point yeah oh boy brain force sure so in sort of a continuation of this alex goes to calls um and one of this this caller here suggests that alex should turn info wars into something positive well i mean not it's not to say yeah i i understand where i understand i think where this is going to go but it's not to say that info wars isn't positive in this caller's mind sure it's just that more there's an inspiration that it could be you have an opportunity to turn it into alex gets pretty mad yeah we need to turn info wars into a crowd sourcing apparatus and start crowd sourcing the best engineers the best architects the best designers and build a world that people these millennials want to live in we don't give them
Starting point is 01:27:14 a direction that they're all searching well sir i mean i've tried to build something and i'm not the best at it uh so i'm gonna start just doing shows other platforms as well uh i'm i'm not we're good at putting content out and covering things and i've got a great crew i just i can't do more believe me i mean i just see some unbelievable uh but but what i'm trying to get at here with you is is that yes we need to talk about the good world we could build versus what the globalists are going to build and i was saying that earlier but that all takes money and word of mouth that's why it's it's all on the audience here info wars is maxed out i mean we're at full capacity we can barely produce the shows we're doing i can't seem to hire people for
Starting point is 01:27:54 some reason for some reason i can't seem to build websites for a reason i can't i mean we're just always under attack trying to fix what they've already shut down or taken away from us so i'm not complaining i'm not a victim i'm just saying that that that yeah there's a lot of great stuff we could do theoretically all i can do is just start doing more shows more places i mean i i you know i can do the shows i can cover the information i can take the calls go ahead you're doing great man i mean i can't even do them here i i don't even have crew to do more shows here on the weekend and stuff so i'm gonna go work at other places now and it's nothing if you grow i'm just hell i'll hobby love you know i'll just do whatever i can you got my commitment here yeah well we love
Starting point is 01:28:33 you dude but it's all about you know tip of the spear tip of the spear now we got to move to the shaft of the spear what comes after what um phrasing yeah so alex is pissed yeah the state of infowars yeah he is he can't get crew to come in on the weekend he can't even do a saturday and sunday show he can't he can't afford to hire people he can't afford webmasters he can't like and sure i mean i understand that's tough that is that is that is that is a tough situation to be in where you have an audience that's expecting you to do all this stuff to fight the globalists and you just can't yeah and the only solution to that problem is the audience giving you more money which they won't would you far unless you're the one doing that out like the extent of what the
Starting point is 01:29:23 audience is going to give um yeah i mean he's just stuck between a rock and a hard place and i have a theory about what his plan is okay we'll get to that in a moment but that's pretty much the end of the fourth he gets just kind of mad about his the impotent state of infowars it's so annoying every time the answer to a question is so utterly and blindingly obvious but the person saying is like for some reason you know like i i can't hire people for some reasons like oh no no not for some reason one you're broke and two everyone thinks that this is a toxic nightmare factory well those are the two but those are the two possibilities it for some reason is still a mystery to us but it's probably a combination of those two exactly yeah if it's
Starting point is 01:30:08 not one it's the other and usually it's both yeah so alex comes in on the fifth and he's you know basically just made up his made peace with the fact that the house is probably going to vote to impeach and uh makes a prediction based on his I guess prediction so Pelosi says we will impeach well of course you've had the votes as soon as they won the house in the midterms that was assured now people say well it's a joke it's a fiasco the senate is going to not vote to remove the president and on the current course that's accurate but you see they've got a bunch of curve balls they've got a bunch of new allegations and fraud that they're going to be bringing out not just on the president but on all of his bedrock supporters so you're going to see the dis info
Starting point is 01:31:05 stories everywhere total lies about the president about myself about others to try to really defeat the American resurgence that's been taking place so alex is making this prediction that there would be negative stories about him coming out uh you know you know you're saying this as a prediction on this episode this episode is from december 5th hmm this is not a prediction really since that morning the new york time story written by alex's former employee josh owens had come out odd alex seems to be kind of pretending he's not aware of that story and he's just reading the tea leaves they're gonna spin it they're gonna spin this house is planning to impeach and thus you know there's going to be negative stories about alex because he's trump's guy in reality i don't believe
Starting point is 01:31:48 that he's not aware of the story this seems like an intentional setup so he can make an after the fact prediction which he think you know can claim whenever he brings up the story he can be like i told you they were going to put out negative stories about me i know everything i know the globalist plans yeah that's how it feels to me but honestly i'm not positive how much he knows because later in this episode he freaks out a little bit all right but i think he's aware that there is a story but he hasn't read it and i think that his staff hasn't told him what's in it i think that was smart of them i think that's the state he's in at the beginning of this episode because his mental state does change pretty dramatically okay and i think that's when he
Starting point is 01:32:32 finds out what's in the story gotcha so um alex is talking a little bit more about impeachment here and you know how the globalists are like 10 years behind they are usually a decade behind you yeah well it turns out the impeachment also behind oh ten years okay just about 15 days oh okay just gonna hit trump with this they're gonna hit with everything this december this january they're about a half month behind they wanted to hit him already articles out him impeached by thanksgiving to rub it into the american holiday that they hate so much sure and they wanted to have the trial going on right around christmas make everybody turn away from their families turn away from christ and give their attention to that so yeah it's a war on christmas yeah the
Starting point is 01:33:15 impeachment itself is a war on christmas wow yeah i mean you know any construction project often time falls into into delays and i think 15 days isn't that terrible i mean lord knows with the you know my roof repairs exactly yeah certainly i would have liked 15 days exactly yeah i think they're i think that's something that you you know it's not what you're shooting for but it is still somewhat commendable yeah yeah so you got a war on christmas happening through visa fee this right impeachment yeah um and that's just not uh you know isolated incident these sorts of things happen a lot the attack on christmas legislatively uh the global it's done sure alex talks about that here in a second just like we got the income tax on christmas
Starting point is 01:33:59 and we got the federal reserve on christmas uh we got the law passed to take senators from the states where legislatures would elect the senators they were a creature of the state instead of them being popularly elected uh that all happened the night before christmas went all through the all through the house not a creature was staring at your house i knew that in the us senate in 1913 and that's the way they like to do it so we know that alex thinks the federal reserve act was passed by the votes of just three members of congress but we now learned that he also thinks it was passed on christmas eve which is just demonstrably not true how the bill it's give me one way to prove that it's not true dad facts oh the bill itself was
Starting point is 01:34:39 signed into law by woodrow wilson on december 23rd 1913 which is not christmas eve it passed the house on september 18th 1913 and the senate on december 18th to uh 1913 the mythology of the bill is that it was snuck through without anyone having time to read it or discuss it with the evil globalists pushing it through well everyone was too busy with christmas to pay attention but none of that's true it's just flimsy rationalization for why this thing passed yeah like it's not like it in order for it to be like this nefarious plan there has to be a reason for why no one that it doesn't yeah like that doesn't isn't reflected by history yeah and the way you get around that is with this like three people voted for it i pushed through on christmas
Starting point is 01:35:24 like no it's just not true i mean there from september 18th to december 18th like there's months between it's passing the house and the senate yeah when there was plenty of time to discuss the bill come to a consensus on it this is just i mean it's just bullshit well i mean if you can't actually argue rationally with the function and form of the federal reserve uh which there are argue there are rational arguments against but you can't make them so rather than do that just call the entire creation of the thing suspect and then you don't even really need to worry about the arguing right you know though it's it's not the arguments because the cover-up is the bigger issue yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah you it's a shortcut yeah so in this next clip alex uh oh boy i'll tell you
Starting point is 01:36:12 what a lot of this has been sounding pretty negative towards trump sure it's on the third and fourth you have indications of a drift away and this next clip here from the fifth i guess alex is back on board or something i don't know he's very wishy washy and it's very very serious and we should pray for president trump because i'm very critical of him not standing up for the free speech and for the big surveillance grids and all the rest of it but the fact that he stood up for pro-life and the fact that he's gone to pro-life rallies and the fact that he's done basic things like that it's nothing other presidents have never done what and the fact that he didn't get us out of the tpp and he's been trying to pull the troops out he's definitely a real president and i believe
Starting point is 01:36:55 he has the best interest of the country at heart it's just hard to see him there's our champion in the ring for us our champion our gladiator um going down a path that is very very dangerous why didn't he think of the going to pro-life rallies trying to pull out the troops when he had time to prepare his uh list of these good things about why the good this is so you know it's it's like when you it's like when you get made fun of and then like a couple of days later you think of the perfect comeback sure that's the same thing you know he's trying to think of good things about trump and since there since there's such a dearth of them yeah you know i mean it's just plate spinning he's trying to keep the like going away from trump option available to yeah and the retaining
Starting point is 01:37:43 there too it's just it's kind of it would be tough to understand where he stands if you're in the audience yeah if you're listening to this show like with any regularity i just i don't know how you'd be able to like if i were to ask you what does alex think about trump i don't know if you'd be able to say no and i would guarantee i would i would almost guarantee that whatever i did say he would deny yeah yeah um so alex i think at this point now has heard more about the new york times article but i don't know if he knows everything about it because he's he's saying that there's a story but he won't respond to it you know and in the past if folks got told don't listen to something they would go listen to it and that's still happening and that's really angered the system so
Starting point is 01:38:31 they're coming out with new lies and new disinfo that i won't even respond to here on air to try to get us to spend our energy defending ourselves and i'm not going to do that people know the truth they know what we stand for they have discernment so you know you hate that word i hate that word so but that's like uh that's clearly more directed at a specific thing yeah and that was the day that this new york times article came out i know a lot of people probably are curious like what my position on that is on that article and i i would say that i can sum it up pretty succinctly in that like if josh owens has good intentions behind this great a lot of the things that he brings up in that new york times article the fact that alex drinks a lot the fact that they make stuff up
Starting point is 01:39:20 yeah um even the uh phone call that he talks about where when he decided to leave alex said that i want to leave too yeah those things are things that you could deduce from watching alex's show yeah they're not like they're not groundbreaking in in in a real way they're they're observable facts yeah yeah um so it's kind of surface level and then secondarily the things that are like the most resonant images from the story are things like alex killing that goldfish yet an employee had a goldfish and alex killed it yeah things like that are not really stuff we can work with and i don't mean you and i i mean the world can't really work yeah yeah yeah because that's oh he's a bad guy the guy who denied that anybody died at sandy hook is also a bad guy on a personal level right
Starting point is 01:40:15 there is that aspect to it but then there's also the he said he said yeah kind of element to it everything that's in that article is largely stuff that alex can wiggle away from that i don't i read it and i might be wrong i could be wrong about this yeah but primarily there was stuff in there that was it's easily deflectable by alex i would say what would make me feel way way more confident about this is if in that article he also said i'm testifying in there we go the sandy hook you got it yeah something like that yeah some kind of an indication of like where he could be singularly useful this is a person who clearly has uh made clear indication that he doesn't care about whatever nda he might have signed yeah with alex he's writing an article for the new york
Starting point is 01:41:14 times about his time there he clearly has inside working knowledge of how info wars operates that extends to we make stories up yep so the he is in a singular position where he could be very helpful in terms of bringing to light in a courtroom yeah the way alex's propaganda is used and it hurts people um and i think that would be much more meaningful than a new york times article and to be clear i don't know that he's not doing that i don't i i know he could be he could have been deposed he could have all of that stuff that's entirely possible i don't have an actual i just do not care what he has to say and he should go be a bricklayer for 20 years and then maybe i'll give a shit what he has to say but i don't care i think i care about what he says in as much as
Starting point is 01:42:05 it's interesting and this is the world i yeah yeah yeah no no no absolutely but i mean on a on a like any kind of uh beyond a surface level interest uh i have no interest like i the fuck you're me a culpa this isn't redemption this article is stupid don't care that kind of that kind of feel you can have that position i think i would be a little less or less less terse about it i wouldn't say fuck you're me a culpa i would i would say i appreciate the the perspective he's putting out i understand where he's coming from um i just i i just don't i don't know if there's anything actionable in exactly the in that article i don't know if there's anything that moves the needle passed a lot of stuff that like yeah you could you could definitely assume that like he tells a
Starting point is 01:42:55 story about them going shooting and alex almost shooting him yeah like do we have if if he produced tape of that then we'd be like holy shit yeah or the phone call that he has with alex if he had a recording of that that would move the needle these would be different things um but as it is it just kind of interesting yeah but i don't understand why alex would see that and be like oh shit so anyway alex uh isn't super mad yet he's just decided i'm not going to give a i'm not going to discuss this yes because i think he still dignify this with a response because i still think he doesn't know what's in it um and uh so he just goes on to complaining about iphone alerts sure he apparently has been getting a lot of alerts i and he thinks that everyone is okay
Starting point is 01:43:44 and i don't think he's right every iphone user in america how many is that probably 70 80 million look up the latest numbers on an estimated number of iphone users in the united states because i talked to my wife she's got one she's getting the same thing talk to one of my crew members as he goes yeah i'm getting them both same three alerts i got this morning five a.m eight a.m ten a.m one sided what polosi's saying oh but trump's buddies with tim cook i mean what planet is trump living on mars so that's how they're gonna steal the election and they're doing it in every way they're gonna steal the election with iphone notifications 110 million iphone users 110
Starting point is 01:44:36 million iphone users yeah estimated by early next year it's 108 million right now okay cool so a hundred plus million people get hammered all day long with only what polosi's saying sure okay you go to settings yeah you go to notifications all right you can show what shows up on your lock screen jordan i have an iphone in my hand yes you do i have had an iphone for years now we did have a conversation on saturday though where you did have issues with shutting off notifications but that's just for like my emails yeah like i'll get like right now i have a grub hub email i've used grub hub in for fucking ever i still get these emails but i think it's better for me that i have an alert for an email than uh than not gotcha so but here's the thing
Starting point is 01:45:29 i've never gotten an update from nancy polosi you have not no she wait she hasn't texted you no i get texts from her all the time i suspect that alex and his wife and this employee may have signed up for something or they have an app like a news app yeah of some sort that has these updates breaking news yeah something like that he's complaining about something that is a choice yeah for him to receive or not receive i don't understand what's going on here like i don't know you have an iphone i have an iphone we don't get these these updates from polos yeah but that's because we're soros funded she doesn't need to jam those updates down my throat i guess that must be what's going on this is such like a peggy newton or david brooks column of like i noticed one annoying thing so this is
Starting point is 01:46:17 why all millennials are going to die or whatever it seems cranky yeah it's very much i'm an old man and i don't know how my phone works yeah he should get a house phone and be like his old friend yeah old man house phone yeah so alex now i think has figured out what's in this story and that's kind of i think his reaction to this is what makes me suspect that some of it is actually true okay and maybe there's some evidence that some of it's true that just hasn't been produced because he is pissed gentlemen we are back live broadcasting worldwide on this thursday program i'm your host alex jones and i was gonna get into a big story about latimer putin this segment but i've had some breaking news i'm gonna have to deal with i'm
Starting point is 01:47:07 gonna have to go off air for a while now um so he has to get off there okay now is this for an interview or is this so he can scream and punch a wall and maybe kill somebody's goldfish probably scream there is no breaking news that he ends up getting to or anything i i really think that the only thing that's relevant in his world is this new york times article and you've seen a progression of i think he's aware of it from the beginning when he predicts that there's going to be negative stories about him yeah i think he is kind of aware more when he's like i will not dignify this with the comment sure and he's reddit and he's like god damn it i am going to go and the concept of exercise that's how angry i am right now yeah gotcha so he gets real pissed ends up playing a special
Starting point is 01:47:56 report and comes back and complains about how the chinese are trying to kill all of us with fentanyl sure people just bring it up to everywhere you just oh yeah my cousin my wife my husband died of fentanyl last month you're like oh really that man i was like death everywhere you don't hear anything about that i mean it's killing millions of people oh i've heard this tone of voice before the idea that fentanyl is killing millions of people per year is absurd according to the cdc there were approximately 69 000 total drug overdose deaths in the united states in 2018 which is actually a 2.9 percent decrease in 2017 the world health organization put the number of global drug related deaths in 2015 at approximately 450 000 and some estimates are even a bit lower than that so it doesn't even
Starting point is 01:48:42 make sense what alex is saying if he's talking about globally just doesn't it doesn't work you're not including all of the people that the fentanyl mascot has strangled today event and all the then we're back in yeah absolutely then we're back up in the millions alex's offensive character yeah from the cdc's numbers 2017 was the worst year in terms of drug morbidity in the recent past there were 47 600 opiate related deaths of which 59.8 percent were connected to synthetic opiates of which fentanyl is one that brings us to about 28 500 deaths that were related to synthetic opiates in 2017 a lot of that is fentanyl but that category also includes things like methadone and tramadol so it wouldn't be a safe assumption to say that that number is a precise gauge of how
Starting point is 01:49:30 many fentanyl deaths there were in the united states and don't get me wrong this is a serious problem that it has gotten worse in the last five years or so and it requires attention and action it just seems like talking about the issue in this kind of language trivializes the actual damage that's being done by synthetic opiates which presumably is what alex should be concerned about but that's where things get murky alex isn't concerned about the overdose deaths that have increased so dramatically or at least that's not his primary concern this narrative exists for him as a way to attack china the story is that china is bringing in this fentanyl as a way to attack the west so of course the people being hurt by this matter and it's a tragedy but it's also in alex's best interest to
Starting point is 01:50:12 exaggerate the problem yeah the larger the death toll the more reason there is to hate china so it can be inflated however he wants to suit his purposes and so that's what you see and in this next clip he makes it impossible to confirm whatever statistics he presumably is relying on yeah they say it's hundreds of thousands of fentanyl year the hundreds of thousands of this type at that time but you add it all together and complications it's it's in the millions and it's all being done on purpose complications from what it's all being done on purpose they want us drugged out of our minds so yeah it's all being
Starting point is 01:50:51 done on purpose and you you nailed it it's a complications you know add it all together all of these different things yeah it just becomes almost impossible to track down what he's even presumably talking about and it's just all right whatever what is heart disease but heart disease but the body's fentanyl basically you can you can include that in there right so now alex has his bad guest of the day we've had david ike Gavin McGinnis heavy hitters luminaries in their fields and now someone new Ezra Levant joins us i am so wound up right now Ezra Levant is with rebelnews.com and still on twitter for now at Ezra Levant on twitter and i wanted to get him on about a host of issues but
Starting point is 01:51:37 i said hey send me other topics you want to get into well most guests will send you two or three things he sent me like 30 things they're all right on the same page i'm on because he gets it he's on the side guys as well all of them are various ways in which he doesn't like Muslims okay all right it should come as no surprise that the founder of rebel media is on the show today after one of his big marquee employees Gavin McGinnis was on the day prior taken in concert with alex's rant about needing to go work somewhere else i would not be surprised to find alex having a show on rebel media within the foreseeable future yeah and what's going on here with him being on is really interesting because i don't know if i've actually heard Levant come on alex's
Starting point is 01:52:19 show as a guest ever but his influence has been a very strong one on alex whether or not alex realizes it if you look at the list of the people that have worked for rebel media in the past years you have a who's who of people alex has promoted faith goldie lauren southern katie hopkins laura lumar and tommy robinson have all worked there jack posobic was their dc bureau chief filling in their Jerome coursey shoes gavin was a major player at rebel he worked there for a while left in his back now if you look at that list you see a whole lot of people who alex has treated like experts in the past few years to embarrassing results from jack posobic's terrifying report of getting pizza at comet ping pong to gavin slap fights with alex in studio this is just a crew of folks who have
Starting point is 01:53:04 done nothing but make alex look like a total idiot but they've also been a radicalizing influence and his shift towards being so strongly anti muslim most of these contributors at rebel have an almost singular focus on islam being the big problem in the world people like katie hopkins or lauren southern or tommy robinson are people whose names you would not know if it weren't for there over the top islamophobic stunts interestingly ezra levant has gone down some roads that alex can only dream of going down in his career as a guy who writes dumb bullshit and by that i mean that when ezra levant was working for sun media in canada back in 2010 he wrote an article about george soros working with the nazis in world war two and soros threatened to sue him oh
Starting point is 01:53:51 yep naturally levant and sun media immediately issued an apology which said quote the management of sun media wishes to state that there is no basis for the statements in the column and that they should not have been made this is exactly how things would play out if george soros really cared what alex said about him alex would get a letter from a lawyer and alex would probably copy and paste that sun media apology and that would be that alex has got to be really jealous he's not he doesn't even rate a letter that's disappointing yeah that's really disappointing leaving aside other times levant has had to make corrections or apologies in the face of defamation claims he's also had to apologize for some pretty blatant bigotry in 2012 levant made some comments
Starting point is 01:54:35 on a show he was hosting called the source that uh well let's say we're not very kind towards the roma he said quote these are gypsies a culture synonymous with swindlers the phrase gypsy and cheater have been so interchangeably uh interchangeable historically that the word has entered the english language as a verb he gypped me gypsies aren't a race they aren't a religion they aren't a linguistic group they're a medieval prototype of the occupy wall street movement a shiftless group of hobos that doesn't believe in property rights for themselves they're nomads or or for others they rob people blind that is a swing who wow yeah damn i feel bad even reading that jesus is that in the roast of donald trump christ what was that naturally people didn't like this
Starting point is 01:55:22 too much so he was condemned roundly six months later he issued an apology which seems a little flat but at least he did get around to it eventually man it's it's like how do how you know the only reasonable explanation for why a term like that would become part of our parlance is because it's true dad there's no possible way that some sort of bigotry could descend throughout our fucking history yeah he has a twisted view of linguistic uh evolution jesus a couple years after this incident he started rebel media and i think if you look at his hiring decisions viewed in concert with his past behaviors you could pretty much get the sense of what this guy's about he hired faith goldie a woman who has made overt overtures to neo nazis he hired gavin
Starting point is 01:56:08 mcginnis a guy who created a western chauvinist street gang he hired lauren southern a woman who teamed up with a white identitarian group to intercept migrant boats and the mediterranean and then went on tour with staphon mollinou he hired katie hopkins a woman who has suggested we need a final solution to muslims and of course he hired tommy robinson speaks for itself if you hire one of these people i'm going to be super suspicious about your positions but when you hire all of them it's not an accident these are the people you want to promote and the message that sends is very clear are you saying to me that this kind of like uh apology for his anti and very bigoted rhetoric was was maybe not not something that he actually meant damn are you saying that
Starting point is 01:56:56 maybe some of his apologies have perhaps been performative and that i mean maybe yeah could be yeah yeah so um well that gives us a really interesting alex wants to know how do you start rebel media how'd this get going hate and uh this is just such a crock of shit you ask how the rebel news started well we used to have a real tv station that was on real tv they called us fox well sure i mean i knew the story i wanted you to tell folks to start now but we'll talk about when we come back because it's fascinating here sure i mean i'll i'll give you a minute now tell me when we have to go to break but um we had 200 people we were on cable tv we were across the country but then our regulator our version of the FCC injected us basically aborted us by having a
Starting point is 01:57:47 regulatory ruling that made us unviable so overnight this tv network of 200 people that was pumping out a freedom narrative a counter narrative to the media party lies the government shut us down not the viewers not the audience so that so then we started rebel news out of the ashes of that so before starting rebel media levant worked for sun news network owned by sun media shockingly his comments about the roma somehow didn't result in his termination nor did his defamatory comments about sorrow so that kind of gives you the sense of what kind of operation this was sun news network went dark in february 2015 and it was not the result of overzealous regulators it was a failing business in 2013 the canadian radio television and telecommunications commission
Starting point is 01:58:33 did deny sun news their request to be included in the category of channels that are required to be included on basic cable packages so i guess levant could pretend that this is why they failed but that's absurd the commission's reasoning for their denial was that the channel was nowhere near meeting the criteria for being on the list of required channels for some perspective the canadian broadcasting company did uh uh they reported that data revealed that the sun news was available prior to them being denied this request they were available to viewers in five point one million households and they were only pulling in an average of eight thousand viewers the station was not popular and they were basically throwing out a hail mary where they
Starting point is 01:59:16 wanted the government to require their station to be on every cable package and then when they didn't get what they wanted it became a case of government repression so they wanted the government to regulate them into the tv and then when the government did not they complained about government regulation yes i don't think these people have any good faith arguments these days not really just don't think they do yeah in 2013 the canadian broadcasting company was reporting that the station had lost 13 million dollars in the previous year so it shouldn't be any surprise that they collapsed sun media sold off most of its assets to a company called post media but they weren't interested in buying the sun news network so in the end there was no buyer and sun media
Starting point is 01:59:58 wasn't there to run the station so it went under almost immediately levant started the rebel and honestly that's what he should have been doing to begin with this sort of rhetoric that he puts out that's at home in a youtube channel trying to make it financially viable as a television station just isn't gonna work the whole the government regulated us out of existence story is great and it plays well on info wars but the reality is that the government rightly assessed that the station didn't meet the standards they have for required stations in basic cable packages and dealing with reality is not in the best interests of the egos involved telling these stories yeah i i don't think that he would be at all willing to just be like well we only had
Starting point is 02:00:38 eight thousand people watching so it turns out in the marketplace of ideas we fucking suck right and you could make the argument that they're like well more people would have watched us if they didn't have to pay for the cable package that we were on sure and i mean i guess that is only making the argument that no one thought your product was worth paying for yeah so yeah yeah yeah what we want i don't know what to do for you what we want is for our product to be free in order to compete with other people so here's how alex rewrites that story well ezra levant hasn't joined the other side so ezra get into what happened to your network you launch it tell people the name of history i've i've looked into it years ago it became one of the top stations overnight
Starting point is 02:01:19 so the government shut you down and it's not about being a victim it's about this is canada folks it's a lot of horse shit um they talk about uh freedom of speech and a lot about china sucking and i don't really care yeah i don't particularly care i do think though it's interesting because what you have here is alex freaked out before this interview he was so mad he was like i have to go off air and play a special report yeah yeah yeah he could have canceled this interview and he didn't because he still did this interview right right there's some there's some reason that he still did it because immediately after the interview he plays another special report that is bizarrely spiritual and then also indicates again he has to get off air that's why they
Starting point is 02:02:08 bombard us with artificial radiation chemicals biologicals to again jam our perception so we don't make a larger connection with the universe itself energized and powered by the 90s tv guru thank this is bad even complete with the music yeah with the music especially it's like what are we fucking doing free your mind and open it to the world okay so oh no too much news to be able to continue the show short that's a weird way to frame it short short sure i am paralyzed by all the news i'm in the serial aisle and i don't know whether to
Starting point is 02:02:57 choose captain crunch or ct crunch they're all crunchy i don't know i definitely relate to that in the serial aisle although i would say this doesn't make sense no i have too much content to produce content yes absolutely all right that's your issue right that's why we only i mean that's why we quit it is a hurdle yeah but you keep moving i guess this mood just gets way worse and maybe i would be more interested in like talking about the guy from rebel being on the show if it weren't for like it really seems like it's a blip yeah it seems relevant only to me to me only because i don't think he's ever been on the show before and alex said the day before he's going to have to go start working other places yeah it seems to me like that's the only option
Starting point is 02:03:45 and ezra is the founder yeah okay well that and editor yeah okay he's ahead of all right all right so like i think that it's only important because as his mood is so terrible like he still had to do the interview yeah i think that's interesting but far more interesting is how bad things get wait what hour we are we in third okay yes i'm back and hosting the fourth hour okay so he still has to ride this out to the to the bitter end of his third hour well i mean he does say a couple times that he should be off air yeah well i agree i kind of agree yeah because this gets so fucked up and i thought a lot about this and i you know i just really can't lie to people i need to just tell you the truth and just lay out to the best of my knowledge what's going on
Starting point is 02:04:34 and i think all you have a really good idea what's going on a lot of you probably better than i do because i did a lot of preparation last night today i probably worked four hours last night on this show and i haven't covered anything i intended to we know and i i did a lot of preparation early this morning doubted then why and we've covered some important things but if if if if we don't cover a subject in its fullness and its totality where people understand the interconnectivity and then how to defeat it and let people know that there's a better option and and what they're missing out on we're going to lose this thing and and i just don't want to be the commentator on a baseball game i don't want to be a spectator so this is a strange headspace because you have
Starting point is 02:05:30 alex saying that i can't lie to people i need to tell you the truth which implies that there's something he's been less than honest about to begin with and i don't know what that is i don't i don't honestly even knowing how the rest of this episode plays out i'm not positive i know exactly what he's struggling with here well the globalists aren't real so that would be a big one for him to tough end of this i think i'd be in a slightly different mood if that was that is a that would be a cliffhanger to end all cliffhangers right there or if there was even some sort of a massive reveal yeah and i don't think there is i think that there's just an escalation towards like i think i think there's there's some violence here man i think that alex is almost giving a sign
Starting point is 02:06:16 to his audience and i think he starts by justifying it by talking about the evil violent things that the globalists are already doing to us sure and then i will say that this is pretty heavy but at the same time pretty funny how this clip ends at an intellectual and political level and a spiritual level you come to the realization that they're doing violent things to us and they're doing it through institutional ambient systems the way you would slowly poison a wild herd what's a large group of horses called is it called a herd a big group of crows is called a gaggle no it's not i think even bigger groups called a murder yeah it's cool the names old english came up with like what what is happening what things would be
Starting point is 02:07:23 named but uh a lot was thinking about is what you call a herd of horses a hare of horses bags under the eyes crow's feet fine lines and wrinkles he is so distracted but but i think that's because he's recognizing on some level he's going down a path where he's saying that the globalists by doing all of the things that he says they're doing to us and has for years are committing violent acts against us that is a justification for violence against them they're putting stuff in the water they're trying to kill all of us for decades his show has been a justification for murdering the globalists yes and he realizes i'm so angry right now
Starting point is 02:08:21 i'm not sure exactly what about could be the new york times article i'm not positive whatever reason he's furious and he's recognizing that the path he's going down is going to lead towards a murder of crows if you will and so he gets distracted by talking about groups of horses yes because i don't think he wants to if you pardon the expression pull the trigger what is it a brace of horses it's actually a herd actually there's a ton of words for collective groups of horses depending on if they're wild or you know i believe i've already come down on collective nouns pretty negatively they're they're fun anyway um alex comes back from break and again there this is not great stuff towards the end of this episode sure
Starting point is 02:09:05 but there's still moments of levity ladies and gentlemen we are back broadcasting worldwide i'm your host alex jones and and again maybe some days i should just go off here because i i don't want to start yelling and screaming and threatening people yes good let me just get back to where we were no you were screaming and yelling group of wild horses is called a mob so that is a it is i'm i'm really glad that that was resolved yeah i'm really glad that that was resolved that's a moment of levity mixed in with like this real terrible stuff but he yeah he's just like when he said let me get back to where i was i know oh no no that's what i was thinking
Starting point is 02:09:56 but i i need to resolve i gotta clear the group of horses i gotta clear this up look you know i've seen a lot of tv shows try to end and they leave that one narrative strand unresolved yeah and i'm not going to do that on this show yeah you are going to know what a fucking group of horses is or i'm going to end it now yeah so the globe was to do and all this violent stuff against people and you know alex has been waging his on air campaign against them for a very long time but it turns out it also has led him to be socially weird i get pissed because i'm in this cage with you and i love my children and you know i care about your children too i mean my children go dad please don't do it in a restaurant don't do it at the shop and mall the grocery store but they've just
Starting point is 02:10:43 gotten used to it and i'll see a woman that's pregnant she'll be there with her husband i'll walk her i'll say how are you doing sometimes i go alex challenge but a lot of them say go hey what's going on go listen i don't want to get in your business but you need to read the vaccine inserts and they're usually the wife goes yeah i've had my cousin telling me that or my friend the husband will wait wait wait hey what's going on i'm like hey people are supposed to talk to each other i'm not trying to be weird i'm not trying to be weird uh what i approach pregnant women at stores and tell them about vaccines i'm not trying to be weird here but if i see a random pregnant woman i immediately go up to her and tell her how to raise her child yes gotcha cool
Starting point is 02:11:18 strained not weird i don't want to be weird here but it's all in service of the you know the story that he's telling here is about the the reason he was struggling to come up with the word for gang of horses yeah is because he is trying to make the metaphor that if there's an unwanted horse population they'll poison yeah you know and get rid of them right and the vaccines the fluoride in the water is the same thing the globalists are doing to us and so it leads to some sort of troubling things so here's here's the bottom line they've set it up where if we're violent towards them and defend ourselves when they're physically attacking us through these weapons systems that they admit they're doing it to harness that they're going to use that against
Starting point is 02:12:05 our movement to expose the chemicals the biologicals and all the uh chemical lobotomies they give the kids to the vaccines and the rest of it and that will hurt our movement sure and in fact they're going to stage stuff in our names very soon already had before but we should have a debate about the larger panoptagon and the larger universe room of these people and the and the paradox of their assaulting us every day with lies and propaganda and chemicals and biologicals and radiologicals and admitting they're doing it and they think it's just going to go on forever and I know what a lot of people I just randomly walk up and tell me and I run into military people and others and they go you know I ever get terminally ill or something I got a list
Starting point is 02:12:57 and by the way this isn't some failed threat to people I'm telling folks that that you can feel the turning you can see it in the street people are making a list of folks they're going to kill so was that what that movie with no that was you know so I don't know what the panopticon debate is here other than is it time yeah it does seem like he is inspiring people to go commit acts of violence and also at the same time saying that if somebody commits an act of violence it's the globalists who are false flagging us but if they if it wasn't the globalist false flagging I would still support you because the globalists are attacking us with the water exact scenes all the time so we should be doing this and it's disappointing to me that the globalists are
Starting point is 02:13:47 doing it for us I have no idea I'm troubled yeah by this had it's also the thing that I find the most troubling is like he's clearly mad about something and that's what's precipitating this this line of thought and this sort of like hey look I'm not trying to threaten you I'm just telling you a lot of people like me have kill lists yeah like a lot of cult leaders one of their defining characteristics is when they get into a bad mood others get hurt it's true yeah so the time is fast approaching according to Alex sure when these people will put this into action so you're involved putting flour on the water you're involved trying to push all this crap into and you're bare pharmaceutical heads that knowingly put HIV and hepatitis and millions of
Starting point is 02:14:38 people's factor rate and bragged about it in documents can you say screw those hemophiliacs well what are you gonna do when somebody walks up to you and says screw you got in your carotid artery what are you gonna do then are they stab you right in your heart your aorta what are you gonna do when they jam that right through your rib cage oh but see you're a human your life values we're all animals all the rest of us uf over huh people you inject with god with syphilis you think that's funny you think that's funny well they get their damn brains eaten for 30 years and you sit back and laugh you psycho I'm not threatening anybody you're not just telling you right now that you guys are asking for it that sounds like a threat enough people know what you're doing now
Starting point is 02:15:30 that if you don't back off real quick the games are gonna be over that's definitively a threat and that's that that's that's that's he doesn't get more a threat than if you don't stop we will hurt you yeah you could you could make a pretty interesting uh argument that that's a threat I don't know I I just I mean like there is no backing off like the terms that he what is he want like no vaccines given to anybody like what like what is backing off to him like it's it's it's such a ridiculous concept it depends on his mood right yeah um so this this ends badly you know like you're he's he's in this state I can't help but think it's in some way triggered by the New York Times article yeah it it absolutely
Starting point is 02:16:23 feels like he's just a child yeah at this three day this three day stretch has been so childish of like depending on how he feels about anything is how he's going to lie about it and there are all of these people who are just apparently captive listeners to the whims of a fucking rapidly deteriorating lunatic yeah it's not it's not um that's not good yeah it's not it's not a good show no and like I said at the beginning like I listened until I was like I've had enough of yeah yeah I think we're good December fifth was about where I had enough of this because like even at the same time even as I'm listening to all this stuff where it's like hey you don't back off there are all these people out there who have lists of people they're ready to kill
Starting point is 02:17:08 and you know something's gonna happen but if you don't if you don't fucking stop um you know even as he's expressing those things he of course naturally ends up getting into a gross rant about drag queen story time but but as you listen to this like you can tell like this is still him trying to get money from people major newspapers in Wichita, Kansas are defending not knowing their identities we we just need to groom your kids they even tell you we just need to groom your kids what's coming inside it's men in cloud outfits that look like psychotic demons out of a zombie movie because the damn broke and hell is being released and it's all just ambient it's all in the background it's been
Starting point is 02:17:55 waiting it's been preparing it's been gearing up right we need to stay on the air ladies and gentlemen and we need capital to do it do your Christmas shopping here get great products will change your life here the biggest sales ever a lot of them have to end this week in fullwarstore.com here dna force plus whatever bad mood he's in it's not so bad that he can't launch right into that voice no no so what what I do think that there is some like real like crisis that he's feeling what like in in terms of from you know maybe end of the first hour he's in this mood where I've got to get off air playing special reports doing this interview that he has to do my theory because he wants to work at rebel media as opposed but I can't prove that I don't know just the theory
Starting point is 02:18:42 or at least keeping his options available something whatever the reason he has to do this stay on his good side right yeah interviews over he's freaking out even more and it deteriorates to the point where he's sort of fantasizing about these patriots with kill lists yeah you know there is something real to how he's struggling with it right but it's not so bad that the primary function can't still be served which is gotta get that money yeah I mean he's a fucking pro like I don't think that I don't think that voice has been real for 20 years if ever you know that's that like sales voice but he's not a pro when it comes to collective nouns that's true but but yeah what like just this is this is just bad yeah it's bad stuff yeah so last week
Starting point is 02:19:34 wasn't great on his show but it is what it is uh you know I don't I just don't understand how you can like have a show where you have these such discreetly different days you know like David extravaganza one day turning on trump ish you know like hey there's these in a cowardly way which as he is described it is treason against god yes yeah you have these like sort of formulaic meaningless good things about trump and then declarations that he's committed treason and may be working for satan right and rambling about like how you know about a moon base yeah that one with trouble hey they're just all the sort of you know esoteric nonsense about the devil on that day you come into the fifth and just have a breakdown about uh probably about this
Starting point is 02:20:27 new york times article uh that leads to celebrations of the possible coming right wing terror attacks yeah I suppose that's that may be his best strategy to get new listeners and viewers moving forward be so unpredictable that you'll tune in just to see what lunacy happens yeah you know maybe I mean once you've already said shopping anywhere else is yeah yeah your children's channels yep I guess the only other play is just like complete unpredictable disconnected even from yesterday yeah yeah kind of thing he's he should do his guess like the tonight show and have a you know have a week a week where the animal wranglers come in not just llamas let's find out what else we can put in that studio yeah that'd be interesting although maybe you can't afford it
Starting point is 02:21:18 probably not yeah or the crew yeah but like I said the through line is money we need money it's money is it's too tight yeah it's bad times right now yeah and so at least there's that I mean like if you're looking for a narrative arc at all none of the substance works a narrative arc is I will do or say anything on any day to try and get more money it does feel that way please I'll turn against Trump today do you want is that what will give me money I'll do it give me money I will I will send Owen Schreuer to interrupt an impeachment hearing yeah yeah it gets me attention I will do fucking anything I said that Trump committed treason and he might be working for the devil and four days later my employee disrupts the impeachment screaming about how Trump is innocent
Starting point is 02:22:10 yeah great yeah great great that means that there is some real solid footing here and I'm thrilled about it what I love about the alternative media is ideological consistency sure that's always been my favorite part of it like how David Ike is a turd in the punchbowl absolutely and then now I say all the things he said I mean he's he's the greatest or how three years ago David Ike was saying supporting Trump is embarrassing and then now here he is on his show well I mean any all publicity is good publicity damn even if it's with a guy who shit in the punchbowl well if they both did yeah oh that's true they got dueling shits and dueling punch post yeah anyway we'll be back we will be back I don't know what to make of this episode like this time other than that like yeah
Starting point is 02:22:56 just come convoluted nonsense with financial desperation he needs money and he needs to know what the collective nouns for all kinds of animals are I looked up a bunch that I don't remember what they are yeah that's one of the things that I hate most about them we'll be back but until then we have a website it's knowledge fight dot com we do and we are on twitter yeah you bet we are it's a at knowledge underscore fight and that go to bed Jordan we're also on facebook we are on facebook and if you'd like to download our show go to itunes leave a review other stuff spotify you know the deal do it yep we'll be back but until then i'm neo i'm leo i'm dzx clark i'm the juiciest ice cube andy in chansas you're on the air thanks for holding
Starting point is 02:23:42 so alexa my first name caller i'm a huge fan i love your work i love you

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