Knowledge Fight - #379: December 13-16, 2019

Episode Date: December 18, 2019

Today, Dan and Jordan check in on the present day to see if Alex Jones has gotten around to doing that in-studio surgery, and to see if he has any response to the recent release of the InfoWars depositions. Also, the gents learn about shocking voter fraud theories and Alex's take on cannibalism.

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treat. Favorite Christmas tree. I like peppermint bark. We've talked I think we've talked about this before. I've been roundly attacked for this. I don't care to I don't I don't I don't want to hear the bullshit. I like peppermint bark. Everyone can go fly. You know what? Interestingly, candy canes, candy canes love peppermint bark. Is it a texture thing? Partially maybe just don't like the licking on the licking. I don't like licking. I don't like hard candies generally right. I think it's the combination of the chocolate and the peppermint is like texture and then also the flavor like it's much better than the richness of the peppermint

comes together in a very nice combination. It's dark chocolate peppermint bark. That's your stuff. Yeah. Okay. It's a much better flavor combo. I always think of the white chocolate stuff just because I assume that makes everything white. They generally have like the dark and white peppermint is the KKK of the Christmas treats. Okay. Yeah. I don't see. I don't like all these attacks on my love of peppermint bark. I'm not attacking it. My mom always used to make also like egg white cookies, the like a little meringue cookies. Oh yeah. I've never had one of those. I like those quite a bit too, but I don't really know how to describe them and this is an audio medium. But those would be nice.

I don't know if those are traditionally Christmas, but I associate them with that. Yeah, of course. Any kind of homemade cookie is a if it's a Christmas treat or it's on Christmas gingerbread. Oh, in all its varieties, gingerbread's gross. It's just there for building. We can agree on that. Yeah. This is a podcast where I know a lot about peppermint bark and I'm a little bit bitter about it. Apparently very defensive. Yeah. And I know a lot about Alex Jones and I know a lot about your defensiveness, but not a lot about Alex Jones. So Jordan, today we got an interesting episode. We're going to be going over December 13th to 16th 2019. Okay. I'm excited to get to that. But before we do, we got to take a moment to say

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I'm a policy wonk. Thank you. I am the whistleblower. And finally, I'd like to say thank you to somebody who donated on an elevated level. We appreciate that very much. So Austin, with an e-u-s-t-e-n. Thank you so much. You are now a technocrat. I'm a policy wonk. Crikey mate. That's fantastic. Have yourself a brew. How's your 401k doing, bro? We got to go full tilt buggy on this Watson. All right. Let's just get down to business. We ain't making that money off that heroin. Why are you pimp so good? My neck is freakishly large. I declare info war on you. Thank you so much, Austin. Yes. Thank you very much, Austin. If you are there listening, you're thinking, Hey, I enjoy this show. I'd like to sport these gents.

You can do that by going to our website, knowledge fight.com, clicking the button that says support the show. We would appreciate it. We'd be very grateful. And while we're on the subject of thanking folks like to give a thank you out to Robert Evans and behind the bastards, we are the guests this week. If you'd enjoy checking us out over there. And I got to get a little bit defensive to myself about yourself. About yourself. Why? I need to stop trying to make jokes at the beginning of those episodes. The last two times we've been on there, I've tried to open with a joke and it has fallen flat. And I look like a fucking asshole. It takes you a little bit to get revved up into the flow of things. I think

you crushed it when we came on. I think you crushed it immediately following that terrible Mike Adams episode. I made a joke about us being the first repeat guest. Obviously it's supposed to be a joke. We just stared at you. Just stared at you. There was five minutes of stunned silence. And in this episode I tried to make a joke about how Chicago is a big city. You could have anybody as a guest, but you chose us. I look like a goddamn narcissist. I was trying to lead into saying like you could have had Rahm Emanuel. Yeah, yeah. Somebody with particularly weird views on food. Something like some guy who's a deep dish pizza enthusiast could have could have been anybody about catch up on hot dogs could have any guest, but you

don't. It's okay. It's okay. It's okay. Anyway, despite that, I really appreciate it. It's a huge thank you to Robert and a huge apology for me trying to be funny. Cut that the fuck out. That's that. Hey, that's my main issue. I have a huge problem trying to be funny. So Jordan, like I said, we're doing December 13th to 16th today and we're I realized that it's been a little while since we've had an out of context drop. Oh, it has. Yeah. So here's a nice out of context drop from today's show. Have yourself a merry, merry Christmas from info wars. Love it. That's like a card you get in the mail right there. That's that makes me feel great. That's one of the cards. You open it up and it starts playing that song

for you. That's audio peppermint bark for me. Oh man. I think that's a curse to get merry Christmas from info wars. Certainly. Yeah. So the last we checked in on the present day stuff, we had a situation where Alex was really going hard on this. They're micro chipping homeless folks. Yep. And I'm going to cut a chip out of somebody on ripping chips out of out of people's fucking bodies. Can't get we're sorting out the HIPAA forms. Otherwise, we got this setup. Everyone's going to love it. That's gone. That's dropped never never spoken of again. I don't believe so. That sounds right because Owen Schreuer interrupted the impeachment inquiry. Sure. I made a big deal out of it and that got distracted. Alex

and now he does not care about the people experiencing homelessness in Austin does not care about micro chipping. Why would you so Thursday waiting for him to say he can't afford a scalpel anymore? Yeah, we would. We'd love to but we just don't. I can't use a razor blade literally just can't afford to hear. Yeah, that's the issue. So he Thursday was the day that those depositions dropped. Yes of Alex Paul Joseph Watson and Rob do right. And so he went over that on on Monday's episode and I figured like let's see if there's any kind of a weird response to that like because Alex is pretty responsive to news about himself for sure. For sure. So I decided to jump in on Friday and one of the things that I found

was that Alex was not hosting on Friday. Surprise. But he recorded a little introduction for the show that sounds like he's speaking from inside a now gene bottle. It is Friday the 13th 2019. I am your host Alex Jones. This is going to be a very informative and very important transmission. Tom Pappert is going to be steering the ship. Those two things cannot exist in the same space. An important informative show hosted by Tom Pappert is a contradiction in terms. Nope. So I did not listen to that episode. I do not care what Tom Pappert's brings to the table. So we jump to Sunday. The would that be the 15th Sunday the 15th. Yeah, like Alex will be back. He'll be talking about stuff and just taking a day

what right right right and Shroyer's hosting of course get out of here. All right. So we got to go to the 16th and Alex's and it was really easy to cover everything up to the if we're covering the 13th through the 16th. We've really gotten through the 13th through the 15th quick ten minutes of the last day of our coverage. This will be a 45 minute episode. Alex is in studio on the 16th and he starts off on a really weird note and I'm going to jail. I'm going to give you this up front. Maybe by way of an apology, maybe by way of an explanation. Some of the way I'm going to cover this episode is heavily informed by Alex's deposition and a lot of the other stuff in those depositions that we

covered on Monday's show. I figured we now understand a way that Alex defends his broadcast. It's all about his feelings about his feelings about his feelings blurring the line of what's fact and what's opinion. I don't think there is a line and neither of them exist anymore as as an exercise to an extent. I am going to frame a lot of my response in terms of asking these questions. Okay and looking at this as is this is feelings that might get a little bit tired. Okay throughout the course. I might sound like a broken record at times warning only listen to the first half of whatever. So Alex is a bit fucked up at the beginning of this show. Trump's demanding action, but I've got feeling things have changed now.

The global has had a deal to back off. They haven't backed off and because of this impeachment that behind the scenes deal of detente is over. We'll be back. Stay with us. So he's talking about the fact that impeachment is proceeding. It's keeping on going forward and that's a really interesting clip to listen to in the aftermath of the deposition in that Sandy Hook lawsuit. There's a bunch of little things that Alex says that make what he's saying mean literally nothing, but the intended impact of his words based on the context of his show in the recent weeks is anything but meaningless. The first point is Alex says that he has quote a gut feeling that things have changed now. Granted, we know that he said approximately 10,000 times that his gut is literally

never wrong and he has literal psychic powers. But at the end of the day, all he's doing here is expressing his feelings. He has a gut feeling that's true. Nothing actually has changed. He has no proof that anything has changed. It's just a feeling he has the things have changed. From there, Alex jumps to talking about an imaginary behind the scenes deal that the globalist had to back off which they're not honoring. This is not a feeling. This is something Alex is directly asserting as a fact. The globalist had to deal had a deal in place to back down. They are not backing down. So detente is over this behind the scenes deal isn't real. But the claim Alex is making involves a real imaginary thing. Now to further complicate things. Alex is using his

feelings, namely that something has changed to assert that this imaginary deal is not being held up by the globalist side. The way Alex is reporting on this real imaginary thing is being affected by his feelings. The headline is that detente is over and the globalists are breaking the deal. But that's strictly based on Alex's feelings about a real imaginary thing. Yeah, yeah. Now the reason why this is so particularly upsetting in this case is because that for the last week or so we've heard Alex very, very consistently work himself into a frenzy, particularly at the end of his shows to the point where he declares that if the globalists don't back off, it might be time to start killing people. He's not directly saying that the time has come here

at the beginning of this episode. But if you're a regular listener of Alex's program, I think you'd be able to put two and two together. He's established that if the globalists don't back down, there's going to be justified violence done against them. And now here he's opening his Monday show by explicitly announcing that there's an imaginary behind the scenes deal for the globalists to back up off, which they have broken and detente is over the proof that his imaginary deal has been broken is just his gut feelings. I don't think that Alex's listeners will hear that as a call that the time for killing is gone, and then they'll start shooting people. Nor do I really think that that's how Alex meant any of this. I just think that because he's so reliant on made up

shit and reporting things based on his feelings, sometimes he has literally no idea how the things he's saying play into the larger context of his work. And that is dangerous. Yeah, that makes, yeah, no, he's not even tying together the fact that if the deal is broken, which he's already said, right, we have to we have to start killing people. And then he's later saying the deal has been broken. Yeah, he thinks that's based on his feelings. Yeah, he thinks that's that's just a regular. Yeah, sometimes the deal is broken. We're going to move on and go to the next thing he doesn't realize that a week ago it was like, and now we burn everybody to the ground. He doesn't he doesn't realize the trail he's laid for like it's it it's a it's a complete picture. I mean,

I don't think it's leading to the worst case scenario. But if it did, I think it's an open and shut case that he is inspiring people towards a certain outcome. Yeah, it does feel like he doesn't think reality is serialized. You know what I'm saying? Like every he thinks every episode is a completely independent thing. Yeah, not not realizing that it's talking about an ongoing reality. But I also think it's so indicative of the fact that he doesn't believe anything he's saying. He doesn't think consequences to this because none of it's real to him, right? It's all nonsense. And he has to be stupid to believe this. Yeah, yeah, that's fair. I feel like that is the case. But I mean, that's how you feel. So Alex does not really talk at all about the

depositions. He doesn't even address them as as being public. He doesn't care at all. He does care though, about the UK election, of course. Yeah. So he talks a little bit about that. And he wants to weave this in with narratives he has about the United States 2016 election, primarily about how the media was saying that it was likely that Hillary was going to win. Right. And apparently Alex believed that the media was saying that labor was inevitably going to win in the UK election. Oh, no, they were not saying that. Well, that's not what Alex says. This election and all the media trying to deny that the conservatives are going to win and trying to fix the polls, just like they did three years ago for Hillary Clinton, but still it didn't work.

It didn't convince people to say, Oh, well, suddenly the liberals are ahead. I'll vote for them to feel like I'm a winner. The propaganda didn't work. The real polls showed the conservatives 50 and 20 points ahead. And the conservatives won by a whopping 20 plus point lead, meaning they have a majority wide in the parliament. So I don't know of anybody who votes based on who they think is going to win. What Alex is expressing here seems to be a fundamental disconnect from how humans think. It seems like he believes that the media reporting that, for example, Hillary Clinton was going to win, that would drive more people to vote for Hillary who were previously uninclined to do so. That's absurd. And I would argue, if anything, media coverage of Hillary being in the

lead would only serve to galvanize the opposition to work harder, thereby increasing their likelihood of turning out more voters. I don't believe that a person who prefers Republican policies is going to hear that the Democratic candidate is leading in the polls and is the likely winner, then they're going to go out and vote for the Democrat because they want to feel like they're on the winning team. What sense is there to being on the winning team when that team is opposed to the things you want in society? Yeah, I think, I mean, this isn't like Durant signing with Golden State. You know, no, it's not like he's joining there. I want to ring. Yeah, exactly. No, at the end of it, he gets a ring because he wants a ring. Yeah, you know, not. Yeah, this is wild. If Alex

has any studies to cite to back up this trend and voter behavior, I'd be happy to take a look at them, but it seems like this is more him talking about his feelings. He desperately wants to be on the winning team and assumes that everyone else would sell out as hard as he has to Trump in order to make that happen. I think this is just about himself. Like people don't operate that way, at least none that I have ever met or know. No, there is, there is something far more illuminating now that he's admitted that the show is basically him talking about his feelings, in that so much of this stuff you can now like really just go in and be like, this is you talking about you. Well, particularly when it doesn't seem to match up with anything I can find. Yeah,

like there are indications that a lot of people are motivated to vote, not motivated to vote for a particular candidate, but motivated to vote because they want to not feel the shame of having to lie about not right. Right. Right. So there are some sort of like societal pressures to fit in and be a part of the responsibility of voting that drive people to actually vote, but that has nothing to do with choosing who they vote for. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know what he I can't find indications of anything that he's saying. So when he's pitching something that doesn't seem to be supported by any evidence, you gotta you gotta ask or a fundamental human psychology. Yeah. Yeah. Is this about you? Yeah. And I think it is. It tends to be. Yes. So, you know, polls, they lie

because globalists. Sure. But Alex also lies about polls. Well, yeah, even in cooked polls, Trump has gained five to 10 to 15 points real polls. Trump's 15, 20 points ahead of the Democrats right now. They're in full panic mode. They already knew that and we're trying to get him out of office with this impeachment, but it has spectacularly backfired on them. So according to 538 aggregate of polls, they have Trump looking at a 43.1 approval rating and a 52.5 disapproval or approximately a negative nine net approval rating. Real clear politics list some of the more recent polls which are mostly not good. Quinnipiac has trumpeted negative nine net approval. USA Today has negative two. Rasmussen is negative four. NPR and PBS their poll has them sitting at a negative

10. Reuters is at negative 15. And even Fox News' most recent poll conducted between December 8th and 11th is at negative eight. Simply put, there are no really credible polls that put Trump anywhere near a neutral approval rating. The polls regarding various possible 2020 Democratic candidates are a little bit less consistent, but most of the reputable polling outlets are generally showing Trump losing to most of them. If the election were being held today, that is a lot can happen between now and November and we don't really know who the candidate will be. So it's hard to put too much stake into any of those specific polls, but there just isn't anything I can find that reflects the reality that Alex is presenting. Alex feels like Trump should be winning in the polls, and so

he says he is. You can't find any polls that show that Trump is up 10 or 20 points, but that's because all you have is access to the cooked fraudulent polls, whereas Alex has the real pure numbers, which mysteriously are out of step with everyone else, but completely in line with his feelings. So what is this? Is this opinion or reporting? I mean, Alex is definitely behaving as if he has proof that there are polls where Trump is beating the Democrats by 20 points, whatever that means, even yeah, vague and 20 notion of beating the Democrats by 20 points. These five for eight from three down. This seems to not be based on anything, but feelings. I don't even know. I told you this is going to get a little tired. We're already two clips in. This is trouble.

I I don't know why cooked polls would even try. Why would cook polls be like well Trump is only plus 10 instead of the plus 20 that theoretical real polls would do. What's the point of cooking polls if it's still going to look horrendous because Alex seems to think that like these statisticians are like, you know, pushing up against something that's so strongly pushing back against them that their will cannot manage something better than Trump is up by 10. The cursor keeps writing seven and then they're like, ah, delete. Yeah, basically it's a Herculean effort for them to make it look like Trump is only up 10 points. Yeah. Yeah. That's basically what he is. I feel like that could exist. Yeah. So if you ever needed just a snapshot

of why info wars is the stupidest fucking show in the world, I think I can provide that for you in a very short clip. The vaccines are tainted. They've been given liability protection by the same dangerous big pharma. Companies have cost such great scourges. We're going to break that down at the bottom of the next hour with Zach Voorhees who's done a lot of research into it. If you listen to info wars and you take this shit seriously, you need to wake the fuck up. And that clip is a good example of why Alex is going on a little anti vax riff. And then he announces that Zach Voorhees is going to be coming on to talk about it because he's done research on the issue. Sure. Zach Voorhees is only notable in any way because he was a Google employee who was the

centerpiece of a project Veritas publicity stunt, right? He gave them a ton of documents that were ultimately meaningless and didn't show what they pretended they did. And then after that report came out, it was revealed that Zach was an anti somatic conspiracy theorist who had pointed posted online repeatedly about how the U.S. has a Zionist occupied government. Whoa, I wouldn't call him a rabid anti. I didn't say rabid. I don't know if he has rabies. That term Zionist occupied government a Zog is pretty unique to fucked up corners of anti government conspiracy communities that tend towards the neo nazi ish. Yeah, Zog and like Boogaloo now our fingerprints, you know, you can you can trace those back. Zog has been for a while. Yeah, yeah, Zach knows

nothing about vaccines. Zach has no expertise. Oh, he worked at Google. He has no expertise on the subject. He's just a guy who can't be much older than 30 who'd worked as a computer scientist at Google for eight years when he went public this year. He's not someone who you'd want to go to for a conversation about vaccines if you were taking the subject seriously. He's someone you'd talk to about vaccines if you were trying to cultivate a new star in the world of right wing propaganda media, which I suspect what Alex is doing here. He thinks Zach is clearly willing to keep coming on his show. Yeah, like, all right, you got a little bit of juice because of this project Veritas video. Let's see if we can make a star out of you. Right. And you fucking can't

because Zach is a snooze. He's terrible on Mike. He's fucking really dumb. Yes, but he's not busy, Dan, and that's the most important part of trying to make a new star for info wars. That is true. Zach for he's coming on the show today to talk vaccines because he's studied the subject is a perfect example of how little Alex cares about doing a good job. There was a time when he'd at least have the decency to have fake doctors on to talk about anti-vax shit. But now fuck it. Let's just get that project Veritas guy who believes there's a Zog. He can't even get Mike Adams anymore, can he? He probably could. Well, Mike might be busy too. Yeah. And Zach, not busy. Ridiculous. And I just where and when did he study vaccines?

He did. Was it was it at Google? He read some for his eight years. Was he only working on the vaccine beat at Google? Do they have a vaccine? No, ironically, you know, when he finally does show up at the end of the episode, a bunch of the stuff that he says is probably just stuff he read on natural news. Yeah, it's probably just reading Mike Adams articles. That's great. We need a Mike Adams surrogate to anyway. He ends up saying some like profoundly stupid shit towards the end of this episode. And I'm not even saying that because I have disdain for anti-vax stuff, which I do. I mean, even devoid of that. Yeah, he says is really stupid like things that are disqualifying basically anyway. They grow vaccines and honey bees hives

might as well. Yeah. So Alex says that, you know, in the past, he's avoided being too optimistic about things. But listen, I feel like he is not. He's changed in the world. Okay. He says something really revealing at the end of this clip. I haven't wanted to be too optimistic. And I've wanted to say the president's in danger. And I've wanted to say that we're not completely winning because I want to say they're going to have some tricks up their sleeves during the Senate trial and have a bunch of new allegations come out. And that's all going to happen. But it doesn't matter because they have really screwed the pooch. Now that's if you look at currently what's on the table.

If I was them, I'd be pulling false flags right now. I would morally do that myself. But if I was them, I'd be pulling false flags right now. And I would be blaming my opposition. So if Alex were the globalists, he'd be doing some false flags and blaming his opposition. I feel like this is a very good example of how twisted Alex is thinking is and how he foisted onto his audience to accept as fact, when it's just his feelings. What strikes me most about this is that we've already heard Alex say repeatedly that the globalists are about to pull false flags in order to blame the Patriots in the surrounding context of Trump's impeachment. He said this as a prediction based on his gut,

which is never wrong. He said it was a certainty many times in the past weeks. But now he's presenting this as if I were them situation. And that tells me something. And namely, that is that Alex's enemies are in his head. Yeah, there's no concrete reason for Alex to predict these globalists are going to run false flags. Everything he calls a false flag isn't one. And it's not like he's making this prediction based on whistleblowers or leaked globalist documents discussing false flag plans space solely on his subjective perception. When Alex says if I were the globalist, I'd be running false flags. That is a pure distillation of his prediction that globalists are going to pull false flags. That is what he's really saying when he predicts

they're going to do this. It's merely his own projection of his warped and violent mind being put onto his imagined enemies. Alex has created an overpowered but also ultimately powerless enemy to fight. And in the process is convinced a not insignificant number of people to buy into his fantasies. There are no globalists planning false flags. There's only Alex Jones imagining that that is what his pretend enemies would do because that's what he would do if he were them. Yeah, then when a tragedy does inevitably happen, Alex gets to call it a false flag for no reason in order to fraudulently claim the role of a profit. And then the cycle repeats more brain force gets sold and Alex tells you that we're so close to seeing the end of these globalists

this time. They've been on the brink of defeat so many times before but never like this. They're so close to defeat to defeat and they're definitely going to do some false flags. And when they do, it's crucial that I still be on the air. So buy more brain force and that's how you could take a stand like your ancestors did in the Revolutionary War. Not everyone gets to be George Washington, Jordan. Some people are patriots only in as much as they can keep buying my bullshit pills. Got a little worked up. Yeah, that was that was good. But I mean that's the cycle that he's doing. That's what he's doing to people. I always think of that bullshit like that projection because that especially is too way too obvious of just like if I were them, I would be false

flagging people to be fair. We've heard him say similar things in the past for sure a couple of times, but it's pretty rare for him to frame it in that. Yeah, so over the way obviously. Yeah, I think of that in the same way that those like alt right guys who don't want to go who like talk a talk just right before they get to all the way alt right who are like, you know, I just think when if if all the oppressed peoples right now get all their power, they're going to do all that shit to us, man. It's like no, no, no, no, that that's not how it works. Right. That's what you would do in their situation, which makes you the fucked up person here. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's not good. No, not good. So Alex reports that this

like, you know, this this impeachment thing is going forward and of course it's all bullshit and it won't pass the Senate ever, but there's still reason to be concerned because people are getting threatened. They've got tricks up their sleeves. And they are threatening all their menus right now that if you don't do this, we're going to release this dirt on you. And if you don't do that, we're going to kill your daughter or your son. Right now the threats are flowing like Niagara Falls. So okay, is that news or is that Alex's feelings? Is it opinion or is Alex actually asserting that people are being blackmailed and threatened that their kids will be killed if they don't go along with this impeachment? What is it? What is it? Because if he's reporting that as fact,

that's a very serious crime that he's presenting himself as having proof of. Of course, he's just making this shit up, but it's presented as news. That's asserted as a fact. I don't know. I think he might have some screenshots of Larry Nichols email that we're going to get to that. How can we get to that? Well, okay, I'm sorry. I keep framing things this way, but after spending so much time with those depositions, I felt like it would be a good idea to take this as an opportunity demonstrate these real examples of where these issues manifest themselves outside of, oh, I don't know, legally actionable places. Yeah. When Alex says that Sandy Hook was closed at the time of the shooting, for instance, and then pretends he was stating an opinion, that's a matter for the lawyers

in the court, but he does the same thing every day surrounding all these other issues. He's talking about quote unquote minions, who could honestly be anybody from government office clerks to congress people being blackmailed and threatened to railroad Trump. But I guarantee that he has nothing to base this on. I have absolutely no doubt that if he had to answer why he said this under oath, he would say it is his opinion. I feel it's true. It's his opinion. It's my opinion that people are being threatened in order to make sure Trump gets out of office. Okay, who it's about? Look, it's my opinion that this is the case. It's the vibe. It's the the zeitgeist. Do you feel like it's responsible for you to say that to a bunch of people who rapidly believe in the insane things

that you say babies and incubators? There you go. You win and all this trial off as you referenced. It should be mentioned that back when the Mueller investigation was ongoing, Larry Nichols literally came on Alex's show and threatened to release damning information about Robert Mueller and every member of Congress if they didn't stop investigating Trump. There is no proof of the conspiracy that Alex is talking about right now, but his show has been host to the exact same behavior just directed at the people that Alex wants to target. Well, if I were them, that's what I would be doing. So when I'm not them, that is what I will be doing. I'm against Larry Nichols impotently blackmailing people in Congress on Alex's show in the same way I am against people being blackmailed

hypothetically to hurt Trump. Yeah, I am against it because I'm against that action. You're against the blackmail part. Yeah. And now have you considered that maybe blackmail is a great thing so long as it doesn't happen to you, Dan? I am now officially a sovereign citizen. Alex is so just the worst just this is this and it's so clear. I mean, I guess maybe you could possibly get the impression that he didn't like Larry Nichols blackmailing Congress based on the fact that he didn't have him on the show for like a year that but that's only implied. I never heard him denounce that I never you didn't push back on Larry when Larry was on and he's had him back. So he can't he can't have been too big a deal. Yeah, it's

the fact that there is no consistent practice of idea of ethics through ideology is like rife is fucking right like Mitch McConnell like will never see the Supreme Court justice in an election year if if he could he would see for today. Yeah, you know, like that's just how it these people work because he thinks probably that if I were the other side, I would be doing the exact same thing. Yeah, even though that's demonstrably untrue now. Yeah, it's yeah. I mean hypocrisy is no pointed attack or whatever. You know, it's not an accusation that holds any weight. Yeah, not anymore, but it's still it's worth pointing these things out, particularly when Alex has been party to literal blackmail of members of Congress attempted and now he's

making up this reportage about the Trump the threats are flowing like Niagara Falls. Yeah, get the fuck out of here. Do you think he thinks that there is some like equivalent force to info wars that he just you know like does he think that there is some a bizarro info wars that has bizarro Larry Nichols on threatening to blackmail bizarro members of you know what I'm saying. I think he just thinks that's what MSNBC is. I kind of think he does too. Yeah, that's weird. Yeah, what a lunatic. So yeah, he's got the spirit in him about this like fighting back against the impeachment and he expresses this. I just think this is so goddamn fake. You can feel the spirit rising like never before. It's happening.

Oh my god. The battle is now joined. This is it. This is it. So fake. Alex, we're going to have to ask you to take that one again. Yeah, from the top. Yeah, let's start that over. I this was a warm up take. I understand that we really really got to get to some intensity in there. Yeah. Can you feel it? Yellow leather, yellow leather. What a dork. Anyway, Alex is thrilled about the UK election, primarily because Boris Johnson is a nationalist candidate. Yes, we've got, you know, he's on his side. Yes, theoretically, which is ironic, considering he's doing everything possible to turn the UK into a colony of the United States.

So leaving that aside for a moment because we might have time for some more politic in the UK discussion. Sure. Sure. Sure. In as much as we can a little bit later. Alex is thrilled that there's these nationalists getting elected over the world, right? But you would think that is the answer to his globalist problem. Yeah. Right. A global nationalist. Well, it turns out that even though these nationalist candidates are getting elected places, they're still trouble. Despite everything they're throwing at humanity, nationalist and populist are getting elected. And of course, those nationalist movements are infiltrated with globalists. What? But it doesn't matter. At least they're having to act like

they're patriots to get elected. And then it's only a process of removing the globalist who are able to get in by lying to the people. And most of the time, the people actually getting in the case of Trump or the case of the leader in Brazil and other areas are actually patriots. And so it's just their minions that we have to then discover and remove. You can see here why Alex's grift will never naturally reach its end point on its own. It's entirely up to Alex to set his wind conditions and his audience is so gullible that he can just change those whenever he wants. More importantly, I think what you see here is that Alex, given the authority and ability to do so would be an absolute scourge of a political force. He would be the

sort that runs all manner of purity tests and purges in order to make sure the party doesn't have any infiltrators in it. That has always worked out well as we can see from Russia's perfect example of Stalin. It worked out great. Yeah, that's the natural end result of your worldview being entirely based on defiance. Yeah, only defined by being against something. Once you have ostensibly conquered that thing, you have to be against something else. Alex is defined as a media entity and his entire personality, his entire reason to exist is based on I'm against the globalist. Yeah. If he has a situation where like now we have vanquished the globalists, he has to create his own enemies as he's already done. Yeah, you know, I would be

fun to see if he could hire somebody to Photoshop people out of all of his pictures full time. You know, how many people would he get rid of it all of a sudden? He's just alone in every picture. He gets back from Google to do that for him. It's back to the future. Everybody's disappearing. Yeah. So these people, they're against the globalists. But what's this? A bunch of people that Alex has labeled as anti globalists are winning elections, which should signify that you've achieved your goal. Now you can go about creating the pseudo utopia that would have been possible all along had it not been for those meddling globalists. But they can't do that. And they aren't even interested in that sort of thing, even if they could do anything. So the

game changes. Some of these nationalist groups are infiltrated. So now it's not enough to get nationalists into office. We also have to make sure there aren't any globalist infiltrators. They have to be rooted out at every turn. The threat is internal and external. You can't trust your own nationalist party, because it's probably got some globalist spies in there. Again, this is just based on Alex's feelings. And it has no bearing on reality. On the one hand, it's a way of escalating paranoia in a deeply unhealthy way. But in another, it's more likely than not this is just Alex's way of creating an excuse for why after his pretend 1776 2.0 is happening. None of the things he says are going to happen happen. It's because these

nationalists to be elected are secret globalists or something. Because Alex gets to set these wind conditions in his imaginary info war, there will never be an achievable wind condition. It would be pretty naive to think that he's not keenly aware that he's pretty much useless once the globalists are defeated. Yeah. Also, Alex knows nothing about Bolsonaro other than he's heard him referred to as Brazil's Trump. Yeah, I would bet anything that I own that as Alex was saying that sentence, he didn't even remember his name. Yeah. This guy's a fucking awful. This is the worst. I think he takes that sci fi fantasy thing of that neither evil nor good can ever fully defeat the other. It's an never ending struggle. And no matter what, if good defeats

evil, the seed of its destruction is inside of it and evil, it's, it's just everything is that titanic eternal battle between good and evil. So no matter what, there is always going to be somebody in there. It just boggles my mind that nobody has ever opened a history book and been like, well, when people start talking like this, that means their organization or their group is going to cannibalize itself no matter what. Yeah, it always does that. Yeah, well, as soon as soon as you're like, all right, there's enemies within. Yeah, you're introducing call it out. Yeah, you're you're introducing at least the justification bad actors will need in order to create those divisions that end up completely destroying whatever you have every fucking time. Yeah,

it's it's it's the us versus them mentality brought in in the house. Yeah, and when even outside of the house, let's say metaphorically, it's not a healthy outlook. It's just never good exclusion versus inclusion. Yeah, I mean, just that the phrase a destroyed by infighting should be like on the the doorway of everybody's house in the in those things like well, it's always happened. You know what? It's funny because we actually get a literal example of that in this next clip right because Alex brings in Paul Joseph Watson to talk about the UK election. Okay, and Alex has some dumb things to say that sounds right. How big is this because I know you don't brag about it, but you know you're in the inner workings of

the Briggs it party and and you kept and you know, Farage well and you've been in those meetings when this is all being quarterbacked. I mean, it really is Farage that's behind Boris Johnson. This is really got to scare the globalist that the guy they kept way out in in the hinterlands for so long is now the power behind the throne with nationalist parties taking over Europe at every election. This is amazing time, Paul Watson. Well, exactly. So before I get into this, I'd like to make a caveat that I'm not an expert in UK politics. I know what I've read on the issue and the sense that I get from that landscape is that Alex isn't saying anything that matches up with the analysis I've seen. No, it seems like Nigel Farage and the Brexit party are effectively

completely neutralized now that the election is over and the Conservative Party won. He had tons of chips in his hand prior to the election because he was threatening to field candidates in the Conservative held constituencies, which effectively create a complete split in the pro Brexit voting block. Farage is only relevant because of that threat. And as soon as he announced that the party would back down, he became a non player. The Brexit party has zero seats in parliament. So there's no real ability for him to be a part of the coalition government. He's only relevant in the fact that he is a rabble rouser and for the seats that he currently holds or the party holds in the EU parliament, which we'll see if they even hold on to. I mean, don't their end goal is to not

even have those seats in the EU parliament. So it doesn't make any sense for those to be any kind of bargaining chip if your entire goal is to eliminate them. It doesn't seem like there's much sense to Farage being the power behind the throne, but it makes sense for Alex to feel that way, right? Because he's talked to Farage. Exactly. Another important point is that the Brexit party and UKIP are not associated with each other. Nigel Farage created the Brexit party specifically because he was disgusted with the direction of UKIP and their anti Muslim obsession. He wrote an article in the Daily Telegraph announcing his departure from the party saying, quote, the very idea of Tommy Robinson being at the center of the Brexit debate is too awful to

contemplate. And so with a heavy heart and after all of my years of devotion to the party, I'm leaving UKIP today. Farage is full of shit about caring about anti Islam sentiment. I was about to go there, but he isn't so dense to think that a party that fuels people like Count Dankula and Tommy Robinson as candidates is one that can't be successful on the ballot, let alone in governing. Yeah, the party he led had become unrecognizable to him. And the way it was unrecognizable was in the fact that they were taking Alex Jones's guests seriously. Paul is friends with UKIP. He associates with them. I'm pretty sure that he has nothing to do like formally with the Brexit party, particularly considering that he made a big public spectacle

of joining UKIP along with Tommy Robinson Dankula just a few months before Farage quit. I'm sure that Paul has some contacts and they may mean something. They may mean not. They may not. I don't know that I find it very unlikely he was involved in anything relevant. Boris Johnson would never be associated with Alex and Nigel Farage probably wouldn't any more either. The wing of UK politics that Alex has access to is the UKIP and that might as well be a dead party. Yeah, so good. I mean, they made the they made the classic mistake of starting to buy their own bullshit like a good politician. Let's get Sargon of a cod in office. Yeah, a good politician knows that he's lying to these people. And so he can he can control

that narrative. But once they start fielding those candidates, they're like, oh, shit. Oh, we got nothing now. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. It's, you know, it's exactly that thing, though. It's the division, you know, the UKIP and Brexit party should conceivably be well they agree on everything except for the believing this bullshit. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, formalizing and allowing this wing to have any proximity. Yeah, to the actual party. Guys, we're willing to exploit anti Islam fervor. We don't want to be part of it. You are so stupid. Yeah. And that for that reason, I like I've seen some pictures of like Paul hanging out with some people who are involved in the Brexit party. Yeah, I'm sure he does know people and it associates

with them, but any kind of proximity to actual shit. Yeah, I think they know better because Paul for all of his increased popularity over people like Count Dankula. I don't even like him existing and his decreased toxicity of compared to someone like Tommy Robinson. Yeah, he's still in that world. He's still that and associating with him to any large degree. I think that that's I mean, that's why Faraj left the Brexit party. Right. It's not going to now allow that in. Man, maybe he would. I don't fucking know. I mean, well, it I wouldn't be surprised if some UKIP people infiltrated the Brexit party in order to push it further into. I mean, a lot of people when they left, you kept one over the Brexit party, but I mean, who knows?

Yeah, it's all just the fracturing though. Anyway, Paul has some weird political analysis on this episode. And the first one seems to have to do with a Twitter poll. Maybe sure. Someone tweeted yesterday tweets from Jeremy Corbyn, the label leader and Boris Johnson, the conservative leader on the morning of the election, pointing out that Corbyn, the Labour Party tweet got 156,000 likes. The Conservative Party tweet got 12,500 likes. And their message on this tweet was, can someone explain how support for Labour is so overwhelming, yet we have a huge Tory majority when it comes to the election? Well, it's because you created this massive echo chamber on Twitter, on social media, by banning people,

by forcing self-censorship of alternative opinions. So don't be surprised when reality doesn't reflect your social media bubble. This is great analysis. Alternate. Alternate theory, Dan. I have a couple. Alternate theory. Tory is filled with fucking old people. Yeah, totally. The end. Yeah. You guys polling on the 2019 election showed that quote, for every 10 years older, a voter is the chances of them voting conservative in the UK election increases by nearly 8%. Conservatives got 16% of the 18 to 24 vote, 18% of the 25 to 29 vote, and 23% of the 30 to 39 vote. How else did they, how did they do with the older than that? That's compared to 58% of the 70 plus vote, and 45% of the 60 to 69 vote, two age cohorts

you're not likely to see shooting off in the comments section or retweeting. No. This variable alone could help explain the differences between tweets and votes. Yeah. And then you have to take into account the fact that Twitter users exist who cannot vote in the UK. I don't understand, Dan. How they can retweet things though and like things. No, it's British Twitter. There's a far greater solidarity on the left internationally in spaces like Twitter. And you can see that in US persons expressing support for Corbin and labor, whereas internationally, not too many grassroots folks on the right are necessarily that excited about Boris. Yeah. Just off the top of my head, these are two possible alternative explanations for the phenomenon Paul is describing. But his

opinion, his feeling is that the differences in tweets is, you know, compared to votes is the result of conservatives being banned from Twitter and not being able to retweet their support for Boris or something. Yeah. How many conservatives have been banned from Twitter? 100,000? Is that what he's arguing? All of them. All of them. Okay. No. For what it's worth. Paul's Twitter is still there. He's verified and he has over a million followers. Stuff is all a load of shit playing this Twitter victim game when you're literally living proof that the narrative isn't real. Oh, get off. I would. I would ask him real quick. Did you retweet the Boris Johnson tweet? He might have. I he might have. I feel like he might not have. Okay. I'll let you report that

as fact. So, you know, something we're talking about here a little bit is that polling does show that the youth are far more into labor, right, far higher support of the Tories and conservatives in the elderly, right, which is why the olds are trying to kill us. The same is true as phenomenologically of people in the United States, younger people skewed. We want to live and older people are like, we want you to die. Now, that is a true thing that is based on polling. Yes. Now, Paul wants to explain that this talking about that is the same as the great replacement conspiracy theories. I'm sorry. Do what now? This is a swing. I think Paul is way out of line. You think it connects? No, people on the left are saying, Oh, just be patient. We'll win it with the demographics.

We'll win it with a mass immigration. Anyone on the right who talks about that is a white supremacist and talking about the great replacement. But if you talk about it in a positive way and you're on the left, then it's perfectly acceptable. But there's a sea of red for 18 to 24 year olds. And this is the problem because Tony Blair basically set into policy this goal of having 50% of people go to university. Now, he's doing that because universities even more so in the UK than the US in many places are literal Marxist brainwashing camps. So first of all, what a shock. Paul feels like colleges are Marxist brainwashing camps. I should tell you that in his deposition, Paul did testify that he didn't go to college. So I guess he's not speaking from any personal experience.

It's just so weird that these people who run misinformation grifts really want people to shudder at the thought of people getting higher education, almost as if their business model depends on a population devoid of critical thinking skills. Either that right or Tony Blair, the noted Marxist could be just wanted kids to go to college so he could brainwash. Absolutely. I think that makes perfect sense. The larger problem with that clip is how Paul is discussing demographics. What he's doing is advancing an argument that is very dumb on its face. But the function of it seems to be in some ways meant to legitimize this great replacement theory that no matter how snarkily he says it is advanced by

explicit white supremacists and white nationalists. His argument fails for a number of reasons that aren't even worth breaking down. But I think there's an important distinction between the way he discusses demographics and how someone noting that the youth support left-leaning candidates much more, you know, there's a difference. And it's about the next step. For someone who sees that the younger age cohorts are more liberal, they'll see that and maybe they'll hope that they retain these political ideas as they get older. That's it. For someone like Paul or many of the people he associates with, they see statistics that immigrants have a higher likelihood of voting democratic and that's not it. They have a next step. And that's advocating

positions like closing the borders, mass deportations or building a wall. Oh, I see. Now I assumed that what they wanted to do was create policies that were more inclusive and get those voters onto their side. See, that would be an interesting possible way to go, but it's not how they go. No, the next step in the logic is really the problem because it's never analysis like you're pointing out. There's never a moment of reflection where you think, okay, these population segments have particular voting trends. Is there a possible policy reason for that? Their response is a pure knee jerk reaction that sees a population that votes in a way that they don't like and their response is to try and remove or limit that population from the country. The equivalent for

this in the age example would be if people on the left were holding rallies where they chanted about a Logan's run style euthanasia program to remove the elderly from the voting block since they skew so far to the right. Or maybe that's too extreme. So let's imagine they're just saying that no one over 49 can vote. These folks who note that the younger people skewed to the left aren't advancing positions specifically designed to marginalize the old people like Paul. They note that immigrants skew to the left and voting patterns and then advanced positions designed to marginalize them. This is the primary difference and why his analogy makes no sense. Yeah. The rest of the stuff he's talking about, I'm not even going to dignify with a response. All he's doing

is trying to create a what about type argument in order to justify these demographic justifications for white nationalism because I don't hear people on the left saying all these immigrants coming in they'll vote for the left. So hooray. Yeah. I've not heard anybody use that as a justification for increased immigration or maintaining current levels of immigration. Nope. I've only heard that as a conspiracy theory by people advancing the great replacement exactly from the right. There you go. Because it's what it's I know you are. But what am I you're doing it. So I have to do it in order to stop you. Of course we're trying to limit the democratic voting population because that's what you guys would do if you could. It's it's so fucked up that these people

think they're doing good that they're playing the game the right way. Yeah. It's it's brutal. Yeah. The worst. It's like if the Patriots were a party a political party football team. Yes. Yes. Similar to that. Yeah. So college is Marxist brainwashing. We know that. Of course. Last clip. Yeah. And he speaks a little bit more about that here. Some people would say those 18 to 24 year olds are going to grow up. They're going to become property owners. They're going to have more wealth. No. They're naturally going to become more conservative. But that's not the case because we don't have proper in the Marxist brainwashing camps because that social engineering lasts forever. I would fucking love for Paul to even pretend he's not just making

shit up out of thin air. Wow. Colleges or Marxist brainwashing camps and the powers that be want more people to go to college so they will be brainwashed in order to make it so they don't naturally get more conservative as they grow older. What a fucking idiot. That's an insane. You know how many assholes I went to college with who studied business and they graduated in their old conservatives now. Get the fuck out of here. They're weak shit. No kidding. Actual data doesn't back up anything Paul is saying. It's all just Paul's feelings that college is liberal indoctrination camp. Well when I talk to somebody with a college degree they say I'm wrong. Damn. The conversation published a study called ideals back in February 2018

that was the conclusion of a years long series of surveys given to a representative sample of over 7000 students at more than 120 colleges starting in 2015. They were particularly interested in seeing how these students changed if at all in their perception of varying political alignments. They surveyed them when they were just entering college and then again during their sophomore year and the results are pretty interesting. 48 percent of respondents quote viewed liberals more favorably in their second year of college than when they arrived. So Paul must be right. Almost half of these students got swayed by Marxist brainwashing. They did get Marxistly brainwashed. Problem is they also found that 50 percent of respondents also viewed conservatives

more positively after going to college. The proportion of those who view whose views worsened were almost also identical with 30 percent towards liberals and 31.3 towards conservatives. Their views of them getting worse. I found this paragraph particularly important quote the data show us that the most growth and appreciation happened among people who were initially least appreciative of either liberals or conservatives. In simple terms first year college students who begin college really disliking liberals or conservatives have their attitudes softened in college. Exposure to people with different beliefs than you is in an integrating environment. It helps people understand each other and seems to have the effect of making radicalization less

likely. It's not good for people whose business model is radicalization. People like Alex don't want you to humanize people you disagree with. He wants you to think that they're demons who can literally only be defeated by his yelling would you make possible by buying his dumb pills. According to the Pew Research Center something bad is happening with the people who are on the right right now in terms of higher education. If you look at the proportion of people on the left who believe college is a positive for the country that number has been in the range of 67 percent to 72 percent from 2012 to the present day fluctuates a little bit but it's pretty much fairly consistent. Conversely on the right there is a distinct change that is very recent.

In 2012 53 percent of republicans thought college was a positive and 54 percent in 2015. In 2017 that number dropped to 36 percent and now in 2019 it's 33. If you look at the graph the approval and disapproval from college flipped. There's something happening and it happened in 2016 that is leading to a noticeable shift in right wing opinions towards higher education. Oh I don't understand. You know it's anyone's guess why that's happening but I would imagine that the GOP becoming a party completely infiltrated by scam artists probably isn't helping. It's it's by all means. Let me be clear. I would welcome Paul to show me some evidence going to college makes you resistant to the greater conservatism of getting older but I suspect that's not coming anytime soon.

It's so obvious. Just from my experience just like personal experience on this regard is I grew up in a small town isolated. Everybody's the same. Everybody believes the same bullshit. You get what would you call it. I don't know brainwashed there because it's such a small closed off community. It's not even brainwashed. It's like I'm I'm using. Yeah exact culture. I'm ironically and then you go to college or a city and you're exposed to so many different things and you realize holy shit. I've been told that this was scary for forever. Now I'm doing it and it is not just not scary. It's great. It's fucking great. Yeah. That's that's the way you explain all of this like why are cities so blue and rural areas so red. Why is it that so many

colleges especially on the right are trying to create their own isolated educational systems where they have complete control over what even can be said there. Yeah. You know and you look at that graph of the like the inverse. Yeah. From 2015 to 2017. It's really fucked up. Yeah. And that should be cause for alarm. Yeah. Well I mean among the people on the right one of I mean yeah. But no one of your things of like something that you've said repeatedly of how do we stop this horrible right wing propaganda as our only hope is education. It's and you're like well now that the people we need to educate the most are actively hating education and you know that makes that really really difficult. Yeah. It's not impossible. Yeah. But I think that's

probably strategically. Yeah. It's sound for them. Yeah. It's what they think we would do if given the opportunity. Sure. So Paul he's got some dumb things to say and he wants to complain a little bit about YouTube. Then let's get into PewDiePie. That's pretty big news. Is it. Well it's the great awakening or it's the great backlash with PewDiePie and social media censorship more widely. Of course YouTube instituted this new policy about insulting people based on all these different vague new categories. But the thing about it was they retroactively enforced it. So it's like you know if in America they passed a new federal law making marijuana completely illegal across the entire country they could then retroactively go back and say oh you smoked

marijuana or you talked about smoking weed two years ago we're going to arrest you for it. That's how dumb YouTube's new policy is. The analogy Paul is trying to draw here is absolutely flawed and that doesn't work at all. That's how dumb Paul is. Yeah. Recently YouTube rolled out some new changes about moderation of content that's deemed to be quote maliciously insulting people based on things that are considered protected classes like race gender etc. Like that's what he's saying these vague. It's not vague. I don't feel like I'm maliciously insulting them. I'm proactively insulting. Cool. It's all part of YouTube's march towards pretending their TV network and anyone who's surprised by these sorts of moves is either a fool or someone who probably

makes money by maliciously insulting protected classes of people or both. PewDiePie has far more to worry about regarding these new rule that's set to kick in at the beginning of 2020 regarding how flagrantly YouTube has violated the Children's Online Privacy Protection Act mostly because he has a gigantic audience of people under 13 and there are rules regarding advertising to children that have been ignored by YouTube up till now and if they're enforced they'll very likely cut into his bottom line in a serious way but that has nothing to do with what Paul is complaining about. Yeah that is a big concern for someone like PewDiePie. PewDiePie's longstanding ad agreement with camel cigarettes really isn't going to help him out. It's going

to be trouble. It's going to make this one. So the reason Paul's argument doesn't make sense is that one YouTube deciding what content is or is not okay is not a law and therefore there aren't ex post facto rules regarding their moderation decisions but more importantly two content that's hosted online is constantly new whereas if you smoked weed a year ago that's one discrete act. That makes no sense to take action against a person for one discrete action they made prior to a law changing because that action has no effect on the change you're hoping to make through the law. The same is not true of videos that are maliciously harassing people. If you made a video a year ago the effect of harm the rules are seeking to minimize is present with each new

view of that video. Exactly. You could maybe make the argument that YouTube shouldn't harshly punish people for things that were okay before but are now against the rules but Paul's angle is completely absurd but the other problem is that these aren't new policies really they're just saying that they're going to expand on already existing rules and suggesting that maybe they should actually enforce stuff that already is in the rules. Yeah it's hosted every click is a new it's like a commercial running over and over and over again. Yeah it's not it's not like a yeah that's that's stupid very so stupid. If Mr. Rogers had a YouTube channel and he was sounding the alarm on this rule change and and not doing with this super flimsy weed legality analogy I might take it a little more

seriously because obviously he's not going to be affected by that rule change. As it is Paul is he knows damn well that a policy change where maliciously insulting people based on protected attributes that effectively works directly against his business model. So this kind of sounds like a bully trying to fight anti-bullying rules by crying free speech. It feels hollow and more than anything like you know it feels like Paul talking about his feelings. Yeah but he's masking it as a political opinion. I really think that Paul should should be best. I really think he should strive to be best. Yeah also something that we don't talk about much because we don't talk about Paul that much but I think is important. I need to point this out. Paul cannot

form sensible analogies or comparisons. He thinks YouTube content rules are the same as arresting someone for something that was previously legal which is when there's a bunch of reasons why that doesn't make any sense. He thinks that discussing voting patterns based on age is the same as the great replacement shit. He thinks that Twitter likes and retweets should match up with voting results. He's not very smart is what I'm getting at. He delivers this shit with the smug presentation of knowing what he's talking about but it's all ultimately meaningless. It's just a dumb guy saying dumb things that feel good to his audience because they give the veneer of intellect to their bigotries. He really could have used with some Marxist

Marxist brainwashing. A little theory. I think I maybe even a community Marxist brainwashing you know he doesn't need to go to a full four year Marxist brainwash camp. I didn't want to descend to that level lest I sound elitist but I mean any basic philosophy class would teach you why these analogies that he's drawing legitimately make no sense. It's not like I graduated. I dropped out. I'm still not a displacement theory and shit. So PewDiePie right. He's he's the biggest thing in the world according to Alec share and these YouTube rules. They're going to screw him over. So that means that PewDiePie according to Alex needs to make his own YouTube. If anybody could launch an

alternative it'd be PewDiePie and again for for older folks who don't know he's got like 100 billion views on YouTube alone. There's nothing bigger ever. I mean you talk about just all the anybody under 25 knows who he is and the guy's really funny and again he's bigger than all of the other media combined. We need. I mean he I mean let me tell you when he plugs in fours it's massive. You've experienced the plug. We need him to join with us. Join with Soran. Why do you always present yourself as the bad guy. Are you join with Soran. Is he was he the secret protagonist of Lord of the Rings. Oh my god. If PewDiePie was on our side that would solve all of my attention problems. Was he the one trying to destroy nuclear weapons.

Probably. I think so. So in this next clip Alex says something that I really think kind of undermines his reason to exist. People are going to reject the NWO whether we're there opposing it or not and that's what's just so insane about the crazy left and the globalist in their bubbles and their big tower of Babel master plan. So according to him everyone's just going to reject the New World Order because anyway anyway. So why do you need to exist. What is the point of his show if he's not doing anything that's not just going to happen naturally. Well because somebody needs to point out that Kevin Nash is just too tall. He's just too tall dad. Sure. That's why he's here. Well I mean if if this show is just Alex talking about his feelings

and it's clearly not going to bleed to the political goal that he's seeking. Nope. Probably should just get some therapy and be cool. He could. He could do that. It would be like way less money. You have to go to therapy. You have to pay for therapy whereas people pay you for free lies. True. So Paul is on. He said some stupid shit and he's done. And now Alex has Owen shrewier on. Okay. And man if he if Paul is dumb. Owen shrewier is just a rock. Let's find out. Why in the clocks back Alex. And if you remember in 2016 obviously most of the audience will remember the Carl the Cuck AIDS Skrillex video. That video in 2016 created a new genre of content where people now go out and confront Trump protesters exposing how they don't know what

they're talking about. Exposing how they're falling for false narratives. Exposing how they're all parrots clearly being trained and practiced as these astroturf protests. That goes viral. Now Alex we've seen in a very shortened time span in the in the cyclone of time here as it gets tighter. Now we already have after what I did Monday dozens of videos of politicians being confronted. This is some of the most flagrantly self congratulatory shit I've ever seen. I feel like I just heard him come a little bit. He's jerking himself off so hard. Ridiculous. This is unreal. Owen shrewier is getting up here on the mic and pretending that he pioneered a new genre of entertainment when he yelled at some Trump protesters in 2016. And now with his publicity

started the impeachment here. He's done it again after I heroically transformed the entire media landscape single handedly Howard Stern. Yeah. Owen shrewier is truly the most innovative entertainer of our time. He's just constantly changing the game and elevating the art of yelling based publicity. I would like a Pulitzer. Thank you very much. Anybody anybody out here Pulitzers for this. On the one hand this is sad. But on the other hand it's really sad. Oh and like I said he hosted the Sunday show this week and he started the show by reading basically the same script about how he invented a new form of entertainment when he yelled at some Trump protesters. And now after yelling at Congress another new genre has emerged. Wow.

Leaving aside how Owen was definitely not the first person to record themselves arguing with protesters and how everybody preferred the guy who threw his shoe at George Bush. I'd like to remind him of something else. You may recall that video of Owen made the rounds in 2017 where a young girl calls him a fucking idiot and gives him the finger after that is a new genre after Owen tried to start an interview with her saying quote how are you young man. It was real fun to see this great kid out there. But what you might forget is that Owen immediately got on air on Info Wars and tried to play the victim insisting that he'd opened the conversation saying ma'am not man which makes no sense given that he literally says how are you

young man and no one says young ma'am. Owen insisted that the media was lying about him and trying to malign him. He said ma'am they were all saying that he said ma'am it just wasn't fair. You might also forget that he started reading Bible verses on air that he took comfort in in his dark time which interestingly is my favorite genre of entertainment. He did what that Owen has pioneered which is self-serving victimhood wallowing with a televangelism spin yeah you sit next to Alex reading Bible reading Bible verses yeah oh my god because a young girl had called him a fucking idiot and everyone loved it. God just go to Marxist brainwashing school. This dude is the worst but he also is just so not interesting. This is just a desperate attempt

to be little Alex but he just doesn't have the chops like Alex can yell about how he created investigative journalism by breaking into Bohemian Grove and it's clearly bullshit but you kind of wonder if Alex actually believes what he's saying yeah with Owen you know he doesn't believe this shit anyway kind of takes the intrigue out of it. Who could who could believe that they created. It's so flimsy it's not even interesting. Yeah that's that's bananas that is bananas. You can create a new genre of clip on TikTok but you cannot do that on YouTube. Yeah this whole thing with Owen is largely just about how like we get attention you know it's like they're talking about creating these new genres as a way of being like we really are like we get so many views on

this. Look at all the eyeballs on us. Yeah that means we're good. And so they talk about another part of this year. President Trump tweeted out our great reporter Will Johnson out there at the Capitol. He's got a mic flag for his other organizations we encourage him to use so he doesn't get physically assaulted by leftists. And so that they retweet those videos you notice they don't retweet the Info Wars videos unless they don't have the Info Wars mic. Absolutely well Trump's retweeted some of them but but we've done that so it makes it easier. What Alex is talking about here is how one of his employees Will Johnson host of Firepower which may not exist anymore I'm not entirely sure. He was interviewed by CBS News back on

December 10th masquerading as just a normal everyday Trump supporter hanging out at the rally in Hershey, Pennsylvania. Will was not identified as a person who works in the media nor as an employee of Info Wars but just some guy who believed that if Trump is removed there would be a second civil war. If someone who worked on air at like the young Turks was interviewed at a Bernie event Alex would never stop talking about media manipulation. It was a plant it was a plant he was just they were there pushing a narrative those evil globalists. Yep when he does it himself it's just being shrewd. Hey we're smart as fuck out here buddy. Can't not think about Larry Nichols blackmailing Congress on air in terms of that's fine. It's fine if we do it.

Obviously it's sloppy as hell for CBS to not vet this interview and present it how they did and it's profoundly unethical for Will Johnson to not identify himself so his interview could be taken in its proper context. As it stands his behavior amounts to misrepresenting himself by omission in order to inject Info Wars talking points into another network's coverage which normal journalists would not do but this is the thing. Alex and everyone at Info Wars knows full well by this point that taken in their proper context they will always be ignored laughed at or yelled at. That's why Alex tells people to misrepresent themselves when they're out doing interviews by using non Info Wars mics pretending you don't work at Info Wars because he knows that

no one presenting themselves as an Info Wars employee will ever be taken seriously by normal people. They will never be able to conduct an interview because everyone knows their brand is shit. Alex is keenly aware of this but seems to think there's there's virtue in baking deceit into all of his field pieces which is a really bad sign. Yeah. If you're a reporter in the field and you misrepresent who you work for because you know that your interview subject would respond differently to you if they knew who you worked for anything that takes place in that interview is tainted. It's taking place under false pretenses and that's fine with Alex because he can't do anything else anymore. Even Jay Leno's man on the street interviews the guy was like I'm from Jay

Leno. Like they know that if you're on Jay Leno as a man on the street interview you're going to look like an idiot. That's just how even then they're like yeah sure I'll give an interview with you guys or whatever. Yeah. So when Owen went to disrupt the impeachment hearing inquiry he got arrested. Right. Sure. Because that's what happens. Yeah. But in this next clip they complain about people who interrupted the Kavanaugh hearing and how they didn't get arrested. Didn't they get arrested. We'll talk about it. Yeah. I love how you tweeted out on the on shorter Twitter. A line guardian article where they were lying about Kavanaugh last year how valiant it was. Women fight back. It's so wonderful. But when you did it's disruptive and

evil and bad. Yeah. And well I don't necessarily want to get into some of the logistics of the legal battle that I may be encroaching on right now. But you know I was arrested. I was sent to jail. They weren't. Why am I such a criminal. You know I was perfectly cooperative. I didn't even try to. They stayed five times longer than you. Yeah. And they weren't arrested. Good point. And by the way. Good point. Good point Dan. First things first. Good to see that the crushing bias against conservatives on Twitter somehow hasn't affected Owen fucking Schreuer still having an account which is verified by the way. He didn't retweet Boris Johnson's election day tweet though. So if you do literally any research at all you'll find a lot of people were arrested

for protesting the Kavanaugh hearings. Emma Goldberg wrote about her experience getting arrested for disrupting the hearing in a piece in USA Today on September 4th 2018 who's reported by Politico that the police announced they had arrested approximately two dozen protesters and ultimately that number would reach 70 arrests that day. Among them Linda Sarsour and actress Piper Paribault. Or you could find articles in the Washington Post about protests against the confirmation process leading to 128 arrests at the Capitol building on September 24th. Oh and then there's an article you can easily find in The Guardian about how on October 4th over 300 protesters engaged in a sit in to oppose the impending vote for confirmation were

all arrested. I just don't get it. No Muslim leaders are out here condemning these radical Islamic attacks. There's just none of them. A whole lot of people were arrested in Kavanaugh related protests including people mostly women who disrupted the hearing. So that raises the question why are Alex and Owen just sitting here lying and saying these people weren't arrested. Well they feel like they weren't arrested. That's exactly right. It feels like these women weren't arrested to Alex. His opinion is that that didn't happen because it doesn't fit with his world view. So it's then reported as fact that these women had no consequences for what they did or is his noble upstanding son Owen was so unfairly treated for being a patriot. This is legitimately how the

sausage is made by lying. Fucking Jane Fonda is out here getting arrested. Right. What are we what are you talking about? Nobody is fuck you shroyer engaging in civil disobedience requires a certain amount of acceptance of risks. If you're going to disrupt a congressional hearing you need to prepare yourself that you might get arrested. That's just the possible cost of engaging in the conduct you feel is morally necessary. And if you believe that you'll accept the punishment and carry on the fight. If you're doing it for a publicity stunt you'll probably do what Owen and Alex are doing here. You'll pretend it's an outrage you got arrested. You'll lie that no one else gets arrested for this and you'll try to get as much attention for yourself out of it as opposed to

keeping attention squarely on the matter that your civil disobedience was supposed to highlight. Yeah. For instance like you don't remember that Piper Paribot was arrested in the Cavanaugh hearings because she didn't make it about herself. That seems Alex hates Linda Sarsour and he doesn't even remember that she got arrested. He doesn't remember because they attention squarely on the protest. Yeah. The idea as opposed to this being self aggrandizing bullshit. Yeah. Put simply Alex and Owen are children who create completely fictional realities which they present as factual because the lies better conform to their feelings than reality does. Yeah. Yep. If I if my reality is this I feel good and if it's not I feel bad. So just

because reality is different from that doesn't mean I'm going to get in the way of me feeling good. It feels good. Feels good. I would rather feel good than bad. Yeah. So this entire Owen interview seems to be mostly an excuse to end up playing a video of a guy yelling at Joe Biden about his son's actions in Ukraine. Sure. About how Trump is innocent. Then he yells info wars.com Owen and Alex revel in this celebratory laughs and talk about how this is a big victory in a total slam dunk. God damn. Because people are going out there and they're confronting these politicians. They seem to be acting like this is completely organic and natural like people out there just out of their own accord are showing up and yelling info wars of politicians because

info wars is so successful and so real. Sure. But unfortunately I listened to Alex's show and thus I recall how on September 29th 2019 Alex got on air and made a big deal out of telling his listeners to go to Democratic candidate events and do exactly this. He talked about how in the past with the Bill Clinton is a rapist contest. He paid out hundreds of thousands of dollars to people that got on the news plugging info wars and he couldn't afford to do that now. But the implication was still there that he would reward people who got him the optics he wanted. At very least you'd have to expect to get to be a guest on his show if you did what Alex wanted. I mean he's had that 30 year old guy who sued his parents for kicking him out of the house on

more than once. Yeah. The bar is real low. Very low. Yeah. This underlies another super unethical thing that Alex does as it relates to presenting the truth. He interferes with the stories he's pretending to report. You cannot possibly report on a story like Guy yells info wars at Joe Biden when you've explicitly told your viewers to go yell info wars at people like Joe Biden. Unless you make clear that this person is doing the yelling they were directly told to do this by your show. Yeah. Alex's actions are the root of this story. So him presenting it as a grassroots citizen yelling info wars at Biden is completely disingenuous. This person yelling at Joe is tainted because Alex has made it super clear many times

in the past that getting info wars.com in the plug is part of the condition of payment as it was the case in the Bill Clinton contest. It's part of the infords universe. All of his listeners know that if you're going to do something like this Alex will promote it if you promote him. It's a reciprocal thing and not acknowledging that is unethical on Alex's part. Can you imagine if fucking a presenter at CNN just started going like yeah so next week we'd really like to cover a war. So if somebody could start a war for us that way we'll have the coverage that we want. We've already got some groundwork laid down. Doesn't matter who sets the war. Let's just do that. That example might be too extreme. But yeah it's the same behavior. You know I would

ask you to tone that down. I well well. I recognize that it's dumb of me to expect good work from these dudes. But that these things. What are they Barnes things like employees misrepresenting themselves and failing to acknowledge how they are the cause of the stories they're reporting. These are fundamentals. Yeah. No organization that's willing to engage in those kinds of basic malpractice can be trusted with anything they do. These are bedrock issues. You should have to go to journalism. Marxist brainwashing school for this. It could help. Man. That's that's one oh one shit. Yeah. Marxist journalism brainwashing. I got. Yeah. I saw a few things like CNN should have done more vetting and I got that. But no self respecting journalist would not. You would

not be like hey I work for the Guardian. Yeah. And then we can still do the interview. Yeah. That's it's insane to me that he just lied to them and people are. Yeah. It made me uncomfortable when we learned that Adon Salazar one of Alex's producers was following us on Twitter. Yeah. Because I was worried about the effect that our existence could have on the product that we're covering. Yeah. And we're not journalists. We consider that Alex is flagrantly dismissive of it because it works better for now. So Alex gets into this is just sort of a shitty setup for a plug. There's no way the globalist can win if their systems are challenged. That's why they bring the political correctness which is really just authoritarianism to shut down speech.

But it's not working. It's going the same course it always has. They thought because they got a bunch of fancy high tech systems and they're trying to take people's bank accounts away that we're like communist China that it's going to work here. Communist China is on the verge of collapse. This is not going to go well if good men and women stand up and say no. And if you fund their operation you know the weak link here. See this is so explicit. Good men and women like your ancestors did in the Revolutionary War. You stand up by paying me money. Yeah. Also by the way 12 days of Christmas sale currently. All right. All right. First day of Christmas by my true love gave to me brain force on the second day of Christmas. My true love gave to me

Krill oil gives you the burpees whichever one is cocaine. Yeah. Ridiculous. That's so stupid. So interestingly I mean you have a lot of conversation on this episode mostly because of Owen Schreuer being on of these stunts that they've been doing lately. And in this next clip Alex makes it clear that they've paid off sort of. We've probably had triple the traffic the last week that we've had in the last six months that is not translated into any extra sales at infowarstore.com because new listeners come through they watch they listen. OK. It's interesting but it's the hardcore fans that by the products that literally do all of this. So what's the most important part

let's say in a bulldozer running over the globalist the treads the wheels the engine the scoop on the front it's all very important but the fuel is paramount and that's my allegory. So Alex's traffic tripling now is so much smaller than it would have been in the past like when we were going over the Boston bombing period his traffic doubling and multiplying by 10 back then is a gigantic millions in this case it's probably just some people who are like hey Owen Schreuer interrupted the fucking dude is up to we went from twenty five thousand hits to seventy five thousand hits something like that maybe not that small but something like it's it's not that it's not millions not good yeah and it's not people

who are interested in what he's doing now it's like curiosity yeah let's see yeah let's go to the freak show yeah and he can't he can't translate that into any money no no which is really encouraging that's actually very encouraging to me he should it would it would make just as much sense for him to like put a bowl out and have people put tips in there every time they clicked yeah I mean this this tells me at least on some level that the thing that Alex can work towards which is getting more people to watch him you know through publicity stunts doing all these sorts of things it doesn't work doesn't translate into survive into his business surviving and again that's only taking his word for it who knows what the reality is right but based on what he's saying it feels true

yeah it feels like there probably aren't a lot of options left for like what he can do to write the ship yeah but we'll see so his entire career attention equals money and now no matter how much attention he gets the money stays the same so he just doesn't understand the math here no that just means that I need more attention and it's like that's not how it works anymore no attention no longer equals money for you yep so speaking of attention Alex says Zach the whistleblower are on and uh I'll say that this clip is a really good sort of boil down of why this dude is real dumb yeah Zach Voorhees big google whistleblower about to expose vaccine starting the next segment now you were uh tell me about this

article out of Breitbart that I hadn't seen so dumb so dumb google whistleblower Zach Voorhees is on to talk about vaccine research he's done oh you're telling me about an article in Breitbart every piece of that sentence is stupid yeah yeah I like anyway we've got we've got you here to talk about an article on Breitbart you read and I didn't let's hear some brilliant analysis about somebody else's bullshit this is one of the more convoluted paths that I've ever seen somebody walk okay so it starts with voting issues right it then gets into abortion okay and then it comes back to voting issues all right it I are David Bowie and Jennifer Connelly gonna show up because this is a labyrinth I had to take a walk around the apartment after I got through a couple of these

clips okay I was just like oh holy shit all right I'll do my best to track it it's one of those things where like you think someone's really dumb yeah and then you keep listening and you're like I overestimated yeah so here's the first clip and now there's a lawsuit that says hey look Detroit you're using dead people to vote and their responses not that no we're not they're saying no that's racist for you to even think that that's happening it's a direct attack on people of color it's like come on why is accusing them of voting dead people to vote a direct attack on people of color I don't get it so when I'm so look into it so when I say that Zach is really not that smart I'm mostly talking about his inability to properly assess information and

express it because the level at which he seems to be able to do that is startling because he's an adult although it does kind of go a long way toward explaining why he thought those documents he gave Project Veritas meant anything yeah he just doesn't understand much so the suit that he's talking about in Detroit has nothing to do with any proof of someone ever voting in a dead person's name it has to do with there being a lot of dead people still on the voter rolls it's less a problem of any kind of actual voter fraud and more an issue of shoddy record keeping this is true in probably every city in the country yeah most likely these databases are really hard to maintain and if the political capital that Alex and Zach want to expand on this is solely you know an

initiative in order to make sure dead people aren't on voter rolls then by all means they should make that their primary issue yeah I'd be fine with that anyone's going to ever contest that yeah except for people who don't want to put the money into that because they just don't want it yeah Alex him probably wouldn't want that anyway because that's government overreaches but here's the issue that's not their issue the actual real world concern is that there are poorly updated voter rolls which in no way proves that people are voting in dead people's names in order to remedy this issue these people like Alex and Zach they don't advocate for more resources being directed to the departments that maintain these rolls instead they want voter ID

laws to be enacted which is solving the wrong problem consistently studies have shown that measures like voter ID laws disproportionately affect voters in predominantly non-white districts so when that's the sort of solution you have to a completely unrelated problem it makes sense that it seems like you might be less interested in the real problem and more interested in justifying your actual goal which is voter disenfranchisement I think you might have just answered Zach's question at the end of there maybe he didn't understand it it didn't make sense to him now now I assume after you explaining it using reality and honestly will change his mind probably not but honestly I don't really know if it is actual confusion or false confusion for

performance yeah with Zach Zach I don't know yeah he really could just be incapable of comprehension and that's one and that's borne out by these clips because he gets on to another story like I said it pivots to abortion sure I wasn't sure why it seemed out of left field also there's an interesting story about that um my friend dug up where he discovered that if a certain aborted children in california don't have to be issued a death certificate and there yeah this is true this is true so I don't believe for a second that the small government anti bureaucracy world of info wars is really concerned with a fucking government requiring more paperwork it's pretty hard to imagine that they're taking issue with some abortions now requiring death certificates

because they're super into death certificates and the requirements oh we love paperwork in reality I believe that this is just an attempt to frame the opposite side of a conservative initiative there are republicans currently trying to pass a bunch of bills that would make accessing reproductive health care more burdensome on people particularly there's one in Pennsylvania that's being discussed right now yeah yeah yeah many people interpret this just being purely based on trying to create subtle punishment for things like abortions the bill in Pennsylvania would require burial or cremation for all fetal remains and would require death certificates in all cases even including miscarriages these sorts of measures don't do anything they

don't provide better health care they don't serve anyone's interests but they do create expenses for people seeking reproductive health care and make things like an abortion way more costly because if you don't do the things that you're required to do based on this bill you could be hit up with the fine up to like 300 dollars as I've read it does feel like so many of these people are are like well all of our our ideas are unpopular and stupid how about instead we punish the poor into the behavior that we want them to have yeah how about we how about we financially destroy people who act the way we don't want them to these sorts of measures really only exist to punish so the best way to frame the discussion is to not talk about those bills like that it's

to say hey did you know that some places don't require death certificates for abortions and then feign outrage about it these dudes don't give a fuck about death certificates they're just looking for whatever trojan horse they can use to attack reproductive rights yeah or at least that's how people generally use this sort of rhetoric I should have known better and Zach would have a theory about this that would outstupid anything I've ever heard and of course he does certain aborted children in california don't have to be issued a death certificate and there yeah this is true this is true and um there is this theory of well why would they do that is it because they are registering to vote as democrats 18 years later

wow that is the long condom that is the game right there that is holy shit that's pretty nuts holy shit does he think that all of the dead people who are on the voter rolls don't have death certificates for them man what is his what is going on does he think every aborted fetus is has a name this is i that's the dumbest thing i've ever heard it's staggeringly that is incredible it's impressively it really is it really is because that makes no sense if you if you are capable of putting yourself into anybody else's brain that that thought would never occur to them no oh okay i get it here's why they're not issuing death certificates so in 20 years they'll be able to fake vote right that makes perfect sense dan i mean did they start doing that are they only

starting the program now you get to a certain level where you just like i can't talk to you i can't believe alex doesn't end the interview after that ridiculous theory and not just that he goes oh oh that's a new one he doesn't push back on it either no no no not at all of course that makes sense i i i i but that means that there would have to be like a really complicated log of something with staggered yeah dates where people would be available to the infrastructure on that plan costs more than the death certificate plan it's it's i i just don't know i just when i hear stuff like that i'm like i can't imagine listening to this show and these things not being like gigantic yeah red flags i like gigantic wake up calls you hear alex not treat

someone like that as if they are dangerously insane yeah i don't know i don't know how you can just think like oh yeah alex has got a good head on his shoulders he thinks he thinks this guy is worth talking to yeah you know i i don't think that physical violence is the answer but my my first like if i'm gonna go through the steps of how i would deal with this if he said this to me in person just like at a bar or something right he says that and i'm gonna start laughing like a lunatic and then he's going to stare at me weirdly because he believes it's true right i'm gonna recognize he believes it's true and then i'm gonna go no and my first instinct will be like the only way to solve this problem is with a slap but then i'll just walk away because they're what do you

say what do you say there's nothing to say and you know what the problem the problem is too he was a software engineer or software person at google for eight years you kind of got to assume he went to marxist brainwashing camp so like i don't have some sort of marxist brainwashing i don't know what kind of education is going to help this one you can teach yourself to code a lot of people teach code so i'm assuming i'm assuming but yeah that's that's this guy is that's that's staggering this guy's a mess that's staggering so he thinks that there's these real problems with voting um and he has a an interesting example of voting done right we should look to iraq to really at how to vote what they got it down cold they take your finger you dip it in ink after you vote and

then you can only you know put your finger in ink once and that's it does your finger have ink on it sorry you can't vote anymore you know you know notoriously um not uh full of voting problems iraq yeah well i i didn't think you could top it i definitely thought you would have to do some work to top the maybe they're voting in 18 years under uh aborted fetus's names but we should follow iraq's example and you can only dip your finger in ink once is uh boy i mean this guy that's a you just he is like a pinata that's just never empty yeah there's always a little bit of candy left in there you just you just keep shaking him and uh whoa he has another thought here about uh i don't about voting i'm scared now in california now in oregon you don't have to come into vote you can

send in a mail-in ballot and whenever i see a state instituting a mail-in ballot i realize okay this is paving the way for massive election fraud that's going to come in that's two plus two equals four which is racist absentee voting in and of itself is proof of intention to commit voter fraud according to this guy who believes that aborted fetuses are voting i i mean that iraq system is the way to go zack in two seconds this is how long it took me to think of this so you think voters uh you think military people and us citizens overseas should not be allowed to vote totally okay well then we're done here goodbye or what about people who are like uh you know bedridden or yeah i don't know shouldn't be able to vote okay only only able-bodied people we should also institute a poll

tax and uh boy how many other ways to be racist can we i mean what about people who just have schedules such that they can't take the time to go to vote but they want to vote well you should offer that option to people there are ways to do it that are super controllable this is quick like this i don't even i don't even know i don't even have a response this is so poorly thought through yeah no this is this thank god this guy has researched vaccines i'm waiting for zack to be like a lot of people on the left want to make voting day an official holiday and i think we should institute a 23 and a half hour work day on their mandatory to make sure that everybody votes on time yeah you have to prove you want it yeah you get we get a lunch break uh also all

crime is legal for 24 hours why not so look dude this dude is a mess i i as bananas there are if we'd encountered him two years ago he might be up there with my favorite crazies yeah like he might be someone who i might be a hamamoto oh boy in a different context whenever everybody's not a white supremacist at the end of this and he didn't i didn't i didn't know that he believed in a zog yeah yeah maybe i could see this through different eyes right but for now i'm tired this could have been our original guy with the telescope right here yeah i am weird i'm world weary and now zack does not charm me in the way he might have before nothing surprises me in 2019 and i want to tell you zack i'm sorry i could have really enjoyed you in the past but now i think you

you're the dumbest person i i i just never i've never heard of anything this stupid before but you haven't heard his feelings on vaccine he does not have more feelings his opinions are done he does he has a feelings about that how is alex even responding to this with a straight face this is amazing because zack was in a project veritas video and has a little bit of celebrity to him and alex wants to see if we can work with it so he's gonna talk vaccines alex has the vaccine here insert right his big uh full dp some paper that he thinks proves all of his narrative yeah he's gonna pull a computer chip out of it on tuesday right they talk about like potential side effects for vaccines like i don't think anyone's denying any of those things or exist as they do with all

medicine but alex thinks he's found a slam dunk in the insert and if you listen to him read this he accidentally contradicts his entire narrative and then tries to just laugh as if he hasn't okay look at this death from various and in some cases unknown causes has been reported rarely following vaccination with measles mumps and rebella vaccines however a causal relationship has not been established in healthy individuals see contradictions contraindications no death or permanent what does that say permanent sequelae sequelae reported in the published post marketing surveillance study in finland involving 1.5 million children and adults who were vaccinated with mmr whoops oh but don't worry look oh that was back in 1982 everything's fine

great save great save he just saw the he just saw the word death is there is there an infection in the info wars today is that what's going on was there did did somebody forget to take their vaccines or something jesus it's um it is it's it's spreading it's spreading i mean this is what happens we have a flimsy ass argument and you think you have the proof and you have no familiarity with the proof that you're trying to present you end up reading something stray in there and if you're unlucky like alex just was yep you will end up reading whoops how this literally is saying the opposite of what you're trying to present so that's good now zach though he is not an expert in any of this in anything he did get a vaccine one time for him and he has some feelings about

okay while i was working at google um i decided that i wanted to get uh vaccinated against hpv who wouldn't right you take a shot and all of a sudden there's one less thing to worry about and then after getting the shot i started getting kind of sick like headachey started getting like the flu a lot um and now in retrospect what i suspect is that i suspect that the vaccine was a contributing factor and i suspect this because of all the poisons that are in these these vaccines that's your feeling on it what's your definition of getting the flu a lot i suspect how many how many how many this means nothing this is that's and that's a whole lot of what they present is just like alex is like my uncle got a tetanus shot exactly exactly yeah i mean at least this is

baseline stupid this isn't way out in the we should follow iraq's example for voting stratosphere yeah it's mostly anecdotal stuff that is like okay i don't know your uncle alex i don't know if you're telling the truth about this and even if you are it doesn't mean anything okay alex you just read a thing saying there was a study uh done with 1.5 million healthy children that showed no causal connection between that stuff right and then you presented as evidence against it your uncle didn't like a tetanus shot and that got a gar to silvexine right and suspects suspects so so i'm i'm gonna go out on a limb here and say i'm gonna trust the the big one but this is how this stuff works this is how stuff like alex works and why that feeling aspect is so

dangerous is because what he's doing is he's appealing to people's parts of the brain that work on narrative and they work on story yeah so the story that may or may not be true of most likely uncle getting a shot and being a god got hurt by it that is more compelling than this study of 1.5 million right people well you can wrap your head around right oh i know somebody who's gotten a shot before and maybe i think they did act a little strange that's the part of the brain that's being hijacked now like i said zack is dumb and here he shows himself to also be dumb in the field of vaccines ever know anyone with a peanut allergy yes do you know why that that peanut allergy happens stop stop right there they were using peanut oil as an adjuvant for

vaccines yes and now they've stopped and now the peanut allergies are have gone way down and that's why oh you eat a peanut almost kills you yeah no one i did know the answer but i didn't want to steal the punchline all right yeah but hey what's wrong with the diet from peanut allergies it's liberal so alex knew the answer to that question but he didn't want to steal hey i don't want to steal your thunder zack is very dumb there's a narrative in anti vex circles that is very common uh that that's the peanut oil was used in vaccines uh as an adjuvant and this explains peanut allergies that sounds pretty out there but it's very common in that world really yeah every single instance of this narrative popping up traces back to one source there may be a bunch

of books that make the claim and there may be a ton of websites repeating it but if they had to produce their concrete source on it it would all point to one single thing which is an article in the new york times from 1964 that they were misrepresenting the article does mention that there were clinical trials being done by murk that involved vaccines with a peanut oil based adjuvant in it but the article in no way demonstrates that these trials resulted in the product being approved for human or even non-human use this article as well as another from 1966 about a public discussion of the clinical trial are presented in the book the peanut allergy epidemic by a woman named heather frazier which is the source zack probably thinks he's citing here very popular book in these

circles snopes looked into the claims about the peanut oil adjuvant being used in vaccines given to the public and frazier the author of this book replied to them quote adjuvant 65-4 which is the peanut oil one was never licensed for use in the united states i did not mean to suggest that this adjuvant was used outside of clinical clinical trials in the united states this person who wrote the book even says that peanut oil adjuvant wasn't used outside of these clinical trials and yet the narrative persists because it makes sense it feels right i hate these people so much it feels like it makes sense i hate them so much peanut oil being in the vaccines would make you allergic to peanuts it feels right it makes the narrative sense i i'm not saying that that's

that's against the law that there should be a law zack is just repeating complete bullshit he probably read on natural news yeah and alex is allowing this because this accurately depicts how they feel like vaccines work none of this is real it's all nonsense when it's when it's a public health risk shouldn't there be some sort of like fcc like we'll send him a couple letters of like clearly this is false content please take this down we got plenty of time we're not being a we're not angry with you maybe you didn't know maybe this wasn't malicious i don't i don't know i don't know how you do that but it feels it feels like you should there's there's got to be something because that's just evil that's just evil so there's killing people with dumb bullshit lies

yeah so there's not much really in terms of the meat about the vaccine stuff that zack has researched that's not a surprise to me there is a lot of peanut there is a lot of meat not a lot of meat it's really dumb so they talk about this like there's riffing like about how vaccines are evil just making stuff up coming up with a stray conspiracy fact here conspiracy fact there and then alex talks about how he's not allowed back on rogan anymore because he'll say stuff like this you know i'm not allowed back on right now because because it was a number one podcast he ever did was your interview yeah that big article that day it's like number one he's ever done it's confirmed but just i'm not a lot when you're number one you're not allowed to be on air you understand

how that works folks because we'll tell you read the vaccine inserts i mean just don't believe me it's right here just can't have that small point alex's second appearance on rogan's show does have 16 million views and it's his second most popular episode rogan's interview with elon musk has 28 million views which is way more than 16 alex's first appearance has less views than one of rogan's interviews with ben Shapiro has less than the time he sat down with bernie sanders edward snowden and less than two episodes featuring neal de grass tyson i suspect alex just isn't someone joe wants to have on much right now as a special event of insanity sure but no need for that shit more than once a year yeah you do that regularly it's gonna the law of diminishing returns

with that kind of a show is instant yeah so they're talking about these vaccines right and they go to commercial right for vaccines probably they took they took a a nutty vaccine and i'm not talking about peanut oil edge of it i'm talking about cuckoo cuckoo bananas guy okay they come back from commercial break i don't even know how to set this up they start talking about cannibalism and i don't i don't know what i'm what i don't feel like this relates to the surrounding context of anything but alex just starts talking about cannibalism i mean i regret to inform you jordan alex jones is kind of pro cannibalism you know what i actually thought that was going to be the case we're just talking sack for he's and myself about different pentagon studies they've done in

situations then about 10 days of no food most people become cannibals about 80% become cannibals the 20% usually commit suicide and so yeah your kids are starving to death i wouldn't go out and grab other groups of people and then eat them but i'm just being honest we're coming with the lizard brain kicking in the lower brain yeah i'm just being honest most like you know let's say a rating party comes your house has to eat you during collapse and you haven't eaten in about you know week and a half they're trying to eat you i'm not gonna go out and eat children and stuff but i'll i'll just you know gun these guys down and then i'm gonna eat i'm gonna eat them what are they talking about alex is a cannibalism apologist i i i think i used all of my laps on zack's first clip

when he that's when the show took this turn i i didn't know what to do with myself it's like okay did you look into the exact numbers about people of course not of course not a cannibalist oh i don't care it's not true what study is somebody do okay here's my plan studies let's starve people for 10 days it turns out it's like the stanford prison experiment but it with cannibalism well as 1.5 million people in 1982 they found the yeah to 80 of them wound up eating the 20 that killed themselves and everybody was fine it was the only people who really got boned with the 20 existed it would never be it would be against the law yeah it would be a crime be one of the biggest in human history how much does it take to turn people into cannibals well

10 days well the great thing is you're torturing people yeah for the study number one end result of it is either they commit suicide or they eat each other yes and if there's one thing i know it's that the ethics in scientific research is such that that's okay that's just okay it's all for the pursuit of science dan and if there's one thing that i know it's that alex would fucking eat kids oh yeah you totally eat kids he's pretending he's got this so oh no i would never i mean and if the kid was in the raiding party i would only only eat self-defense i know he's only a cannibal in self-defense fuck that's not a thing stupid there is such a joy to listening to info wars when this happens yeah like i hate this show so much and listening to paul be a

fucking idiot not be able to make an analogy yeah listening to owen schreuer pretend that he is like the uh like the innovative show man of the century creating new genres listening to zack be completely dull and dumb like that's all tough hard for the course but then three hours into the show amen you know what i'll eat a raiding party i'll just be honest i will eat people it's almost it's almost presented as like yeah i he's reluctant to say it no he's not reluctant to tell you he thinks that you can't handle it's almost like let's all grow up grow up come on guys we need people come on we're we're it's all it's just us here now we can all just admit to ourselves yeah we need people and some of us have you know pooped in the sink you know it's a thing that we

can all relate to as something we did or would do it also really calls into question what other fundamental human taboos alex would break in uh you know the collapse i know i if you're if you're willing to let's say eat humans as opposed to forage yeah or something i'm going to tell you i'm going to tell you right now if there's one bad guy that i know alex identifies with it would be a mortan joe from mad max fury road okay no doubt in my mind that he's like that's the guy we're drinking breast milk i'm loving it eating people the poor are going to starve to death i'm all about it so this isn't the only thing alex has to say about cannibalism apparently is there more there is more can you imagine the discussion around that they're like well you know we ate three days ago

but this guy's dead in 10 days it's probably going to spoil so even though we're not hungry we should probably eat now remember the mutiny on the bounty that's a true story and it was the furthest you know open air uh navigation by a small boat like all the way across the pacific they all said in the logs that oh we sustained ourselves off one bird we caught no that word they they ate the dudes wow what they they they ate the few guys you're just saying that one guy wrote his diary they said hey eat me when i die okay so yeah that's you know but i mean come on let's just be honest about it oh let's just be honest i'll be honest i didn't look into that uh because i don't care but alex really seems to be like no qualms about eating people no he's fine with it he's he's ready for the apocalypse

he has been preparing and now it's time i don't remember humphrey bogart eating anybody in the movie but uh i guess that must have been the case if you're so blasé about eating people why do you sell survival food let's be honest we're gonna eat people i uh i damn i will tell you the answer to why you sell survival food it's made of people i think that like okay yes if put into that situation where it was i'm going to die if i don't eat a person like let's say it's uh are we doing this is this what we're doing i want to i want to draw an important comparison okay okay and that is that put in that situation i i don't know what i would do but there's a really decent chance i might but if i did it would fuck me up forever yeah yeah it would be one of the most horrifying things that

i would have to do i'd probably never be able to deal with it i could never leave you alone for sure alex is present you would be on 24 hour suicide watch alex is presenting this as agro you toss it aside it's no big thing man of he's cannibal apologist oh i no way no way i'm in the 20 percent all the way i'm i have a hard time making it through the day and i i eat well yeah i think there's a decent chance that i would go that way as well but i'm what i'm expressing is that like sitting here with you right now i don't know what i would do in that circumstance there's a possibility but i recognize it would be traumatic it's not traumatic in alex's mind no it's not weird it's inevitable you know what you might as well get past it now right

because it's going to happen so it's like you might as well deal with it preemptively maybe there's something to that i think you're i think you're just not preparing yourself to eat somebody if alex is embodying the end result of doing that preparation i don't want it i would start i'm looking up recipes right now on my phone i'm i'm going to find a way to saute a person pretty well i wish you the best that's my sitting here right now with you one accident and i'm eating you that's the that's my rule so they have this cannibalism conversation sure and it gets back to vaccines right at the end of the episode and but first he's like man i'm starting to get real hungry right now i don't know why i don't know why it just turns into a roast yeah like a like a loony

toons car too so uh they talk about vaccines and the zach says something just like come on man this is so dumb japan found out it was and what 15 years ago banned children under two from getting vaccines you know japan's actually got it right i think that zach should uh be made aware uh and he might be surprised to learn this that japan is currently battling their largest measles outbreak in over a decade which has been directly traced to people not being vaccinated no so i i think if he says the they've got it right they've got it right then he has to explain this and they should adopt iraq's voting policy as well i think that would be a great idea everybody needs to dip their fingers pretty soon pretty soon japan will be right all across the board this episode is

terrifying glimpse into this show into into the way these guys actually think it's insane like just the the the amount of this that when viewed through the prism of like he feels no obligation to say things that he can defend no when pressed on it he does result like under oath saying like there's a lot of it's me talking about my feelings yeah when glit the when looked through that prism it does make a lot of sense yeah it's just never presented that way no it's always presented is i'm telling you things that are based on reality yeah um and it's it's it's terrifying also everyone around alex is a different kind of loser that is just profoundly disappointed yeah paul joseph watson oan shroyer this zek fella they're all just just bombers it makes you want like because of the

way that this feels to me like the the show is very much like we're we're riffing around it's very personal uh and it's it's very much like i'm bouncing stuff back and forth off of you like that's what it it feels like to me like nobody's nobody's really paying attention kind of thing like enforce yeah yeah yeah it's it seems to me like it like how many how many of these guys if you scratched them you know if you if one of these famous public commentators or congressmen or whomever if you just like scratched them too far on one subject how many of them would have some dumb belief like oh i'll tell you right now they're not doing death certificates because they're voting 18 years from now like how many of them are there most of them aren't uh because that's

pretty far out right right but yeah i don't know yeah it's it's pretty fucked up to think that someone willing to espouse that belief yeah would have access to a radio show that theoretically has a million listeners or whatever like that's oh wow wow i mean like on a certain on a in a certain level i think part of it is just the unfamiliarity with that insane thing which which is why it feels so crazy to me because i've never heard anybody say that but before but the aborted fetuses are voting yeah yeah never i've never heard that either i think that the other thing too is that like alex clearly is has not heard the aborted fetuses are voting theory either oh his response to it is kind of one of surprise and he feels no need to discuss it further why why do you think

that what would you say he has no he feels no responsibility to do anything to frame the presentation to his audience so they can take the information in in a better way he just allows it to be presented as like hey this is that because a real credible guy and here's the thought he has i mean you have to that's very unhealthy the only reaction you he can have it has to be like oh because it a human reaction is like how get out yeah get out go ahead and explain explain how that works go for it zack you can't you have to give me give me a step by step plan on how that would exact i know the interview just started but i gotta leave i gotta leave alex you have an hour left to do i gotta go i gotta go you're hosting zack you did a great job the camera i have the

camera i have quit and we are turning the lights off and i am burning down this facility with you zack i should tell you i'm bill hicks i'm going back to comedy exactly yikes i need to protect the world from you zack i'm sorry this has to happen but we're going to eat you now i haven't eaten in ten days in preparation for this anyway we'll be back but until then we have a website we do it's knowledge fight dot com i feel like we have a twitter i'm pretty sure we do although it's not verifiable but if it did it would be at knowledge underscore fight and that go to bed jordan yeah world's on facebook we are on facebook and if you like to download the show go to itunes or whatever podcast app you use leave a review you know there's to this shebang yep you do yep um

we'll be back but until then i'm neo i'm leo i'm dzx clark i'm the fetus voter andy and chanz usher on the earth thanks for holding so alex i'm a first time caller i'm a huge fan i love your work i love you