Knowledge Fight - #393: January 28, 2020

Episode Date: January 29, 2020

Today, Dan and Jordan continue their coverage of Alex Jones' horribly irresponsible coverage of the news. In this installment, Alex tries to turn a quarantined city into a sales pitch for his food buckets, and Steve Pieczenik stops by to make a bombshell announcement about the Coronavirus.

I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys knowledge fight. Dan and George, knowledge fight. I need money. Andy and Kansas. Andy and Kansas. Andy and Kansas. It's time to pray. Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. Hello, Alex and Mr. Sinclair. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. Knowledge fight. I love you. Everybody. Welcome back to knowledge fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes like to sit around to novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Indeed we are Dan Jordan. Dan Jordan kind of a big event happened last night. Well, it wasn't last night. It was Sunday night. I don't know what day it is. It's Tuesday. Well, I didn't. Well, a big event happened

for me Sunday night and that was Raphael Curios. Incredible match. Okay. Amazing. Anyways, yes, okay. Rafa Nadal. My two favorite play is running around going Dan Dan right. He says about to get into. How was the royal rumble? It was last night again. It was Sunday. Glad you asked. Thank you. I have some thoughts. Okay. I thought you might. It was fun. It was really interesting. The Royal Rumble Sunday and 30 people enter the ring and then after we've thrown out of course, of course, the way they did it this year, the it was a really interesting structure to it that I actually really didn't like in the moment, but I like in hindsight. Okay. That's not how you enjoy sports, but okay. Well, it's not sports. Sports entertainment. That's fair enough. So Brock Lesnar

is the champ and he is a monster of a man. He's very giant pile of beef. He's quite scary. Yes, yeah, and he beats up everybody. Yes, of course, and so he's the champ and he decided he was going to enter the Royal Rumble and put himself in the first. Okay. He was number one is the number one entry. So he'd have to fight through everybody everybody. Of course, which is a cocky move. It's a bit of a for a scripted show. It seems like a bit of a cock cocky move. Yeah, and so he enters first and of course he just beats up everybody who comes out. So like the first 15 people that come out just get their ass kicked thrown out. So the first the first guy was thrown out immediately. Well it was Elias and his character is this guy who has a guitar and he sings sarcastic

songs at people. I forgot. I haven't watched wrestling in a long time. So he comes out and he starts singing a song insulting Brock Lesnar. Of course, and so Brock runs out of the ring, grabs him and throws him out. Of course, of course, he had to have been gone in two seconds. Yeah, and along the way, they give you like little moments of hope, like maybe a couple people will be able to work together and take him out. Of course. And so it gets to like halfway through and all hope has like sort of been diminished. Right. And then finally this big Scottish guy named Drew McIntyre comes in and there's other guy, Ricochet kicks Brock Lesnar in the balls and then McIntyre kicks Lesnar out of the ring. Perfect. Place goes crazy. Perfect. And what you realize,

like sort of in hindsight is like they had to do all this stuff that's kind of unsatisfying and a little bit like disappointing in order to get you to enjoy when McIntyre does. Yeah, absolutely. Lesnar out. So in hindsight, I kind of enjoyed that. And then the rest of the people who came out like, you know, it is what it is for the rest of the rumble. Sure. Sure. Sure. But they had a guy edge who's a wrestler who's around back in the attitude era and like back when I was watching way back. Yeah, I remember edge. Yeah. He was the rated R superstar. Yeah. And he had like a really, really traumatizing neck injury about 10 years ago. Okay. And he had to retire and it was just like this horrible thing where, you know, he has this emotional retirement

and like, you know, the loves being in that he had some of the craziest moments from like back when I remember watching wrestling, like he he and Christian, these two guys were a tag team and they had these insane matches with the, the Hardy boys like tables, ladders and chairs, or they just things are like mysteries. The whole thing. You should be dead. Absolutely. And so anyway, he had to retire and it never seemed like he was ever going to come back and he came out in the 21 spot in the 21 and the whole place went ape shit. Yeah, his music hit and it was just out of control. Yeah, people freaking out amazing. But what I found really amazing about it was like if like watching the moment when he comes through the

fog, the smoke machine that he has, he looks almost like he's going to cry. Yeah, like just this moment. Absolutely. I am back doing this thing. There's a put wrestling aside. There's just such a human moment you can see in his face. Yeah, of like a stadium full of people getting to feel that moment again. Yeah, of like this is what I was I was meant to do. I never thought I'd be able to do it again. It's just so universal and it just like it is amazing. Yeah. Yeah. So remember Lou Gehrig did that 10 years after he retired. Is that right? Take all of the bullshit about people not liking wrestling or whatever. It's fake. Whatever. Take all of that out of it. Yeah. That moment I think makes up for like any kind of

negative review. You might have like this mattress boring or yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That makes a night being able to create that moment is far more valuable than putting on a 30 person royal rumble. And it's not even like you're creating it. Life created that. Sure. Sure. To facilitate it and provide it. Right. Right. Because as much as it is like this emotional thing for for edge, it's also for the people who love and and and missed him, you know, like as a performer. So that's that was great. Anyway, I have a lot of feelings about. I have a lot of feelings about non wrestling aspects of the. Sure. The wrestling very side side got bar to your your story here. Some of the other stuff that happened was fine. Whatever. Yeah. Anyway, this is a podcast where

I know a bit about that and a lot about Alex. Man, I don't know anything about either. Right. So Jordan, today we're going over the January 28th, 2020. I'm Dan. This is 2020 episode of the Alex Jones show. We're not doing this all year. Yeah, we are. I swear to God. I swear to God. I wanted to not do a present day episode because we've done a couple in a row and I think we all kind of get the sense that Alex is just going to be talking about the Corona virus and really exaggerating and being irresponsible about it. And a lot of chickens are going to get sick if they don't get that vaccine. Totally. It feels like almost like you're just beating the same drum and it's annoying. Right. And so I wanted to try and do something else. But man,

I went down a lot of avenues and none of them were good. I listened to two episodes of Project Camelot where Carrie Cassidy interviews magicians and neither were any good. I just see now. I feel like I have to go listen to them just to confirm for you. I never, I never listen, but how can Carrie Cassidy fuck up talking to two magicians? Hey man, you go one for two at least. Hey, you got the time. Go watch them. I don't give a shit. Fair enough. I'm confident in my assessment. All right. We'll do a reverse. All right. Yeah. I'm giving up giving up climate change. 100% fine with that. 100% only Project Camelot. Please do that. See if I give a shit. So anyway, we're here and I'm actually honestly pretty glad that I ended up being sort of backed

into a corner with a bunch of like this isn't this is not a good thing to cover. This isn't going to work and having to retreat back to the January 28th 2020 because I think there are some things that are worthwhile in this. Some having to do with the Corona virus, some having to do with other stuff and we'll get to all that in a moment. But before we do got to give a thank you to some people who have signed up and are supporting the show. So first, Sarah, thank you so much. You are now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you, Sarah. Thank you, Sarah. Next. Ooh, this is appropriate for the Royal Rumble. Thank you so much. Samoa Joe. You are now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you, Samoa Joe. Nope. Nope. Oh boy. Next. Thank you. Thank you so much.

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technocrat. Next, David. Thank you so much. You are now a technocrat and Anthony. Thank you so much. You are now a technocrat. I'm a policy wonk. Crikey, mate. That's fantastic. Have yourself a brew. How's your 401k doing, bro? We got to go full tilt bugging on this Watson. All right. Let's just get down to business. We ain't making that money off that heroin. Why are you pimp so good? My neck is freakishly large. I declare info war on you. Thank you so much. Mason, David and Anthony. That sounds like Dave Anthony from the toilet is really into Mason. It could be a 30 30. Yeah. Yeah. If you are a Mason inducted into the Scottish right and you would like to sport the show that we do here, you can do that by going to our website, knowledge fight.com, clicking the button

that says sports show. We would appreciate it. We would love it. All right. So we get down to business. Although then again, I don't think our show should be funded primarily by mason's. I mean, it's outside the auspices of their masonic ness. That's fair. That's fair. You know, it's like they say all money spends or whatever. I don't know. Sure. Anyway, we start off the show and Alex has some suspicions. Isn't it interesting that the Corona virus has been heavily studied by the Chinese communist government by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation and through a sub foundation that Bill and his father fund. Two years ago, they patented the Corona virus for use in a vaccine. And now they may be able to rush it into production to protect

you and your family. Aren't we just blessed and lucky? Yes, the media said there is no one we are. It's a conspiracy theory. There are sites out there saying that there's government groups and others that have vaccines secretly developed and that this has been staged to push vaccines on the public. But now NBC News, J&J scientific officer, pretty confident they can create Corona virus vaccine as outbreak widens because they've got a bunch of patented viruses of it that have been patented for use in a vaccine. So you just mix it all up and there it all is. You just mix it all up. Yes. So it's not suspicious that scientists are working on a vaccine for a novel strain of Corona virus that just appeared. That's exactly what they should be doing.

Why wouldn't they be doing it? It's exactly what you'd expect to see, right? Based on the entire history of every situation that's ever happened like this. You can see here how Alex has incorporated that chicken vaccine patent into his narrative and laundered it. So now it's just accepted fact. This is often how Alex works. And it's one of the things that honestly is the most frustrating about doing this kind of work. If you aren't listening when the narrative launches, it's often completely impossible to track down what he's talking about because he just speaks in vague buzzwords that evoke something to his audience, but lack any of the details you would need to confirm what he's saying. If you didn't know that he's lying about the Peer Bright Institute

having a patent for a vaccine for poultry, it would be really hard to take the details of what he said in that last clip and trace it down and be able to learn more about what he's talking about. And that is an intentional strategy. He's now turned this into a talking point. The media didn't say that it was a conspiracy theory that people were working on a vaccine. Many of the articles that I've read in preparing for these episodes have mentioned that work was underway, but that it would take a while if it was even really possible at all. Coronaviruses are notoriously hard to create vaccines for. And generally, doctors tend to take the approach of just managing symptoms, which are often the most dangerous part of the virus. For instance, in the case of SARS,

it was often how it led to pneumonia. That was the biggest concern for medical professionals. Right. Well, pneumonia is pretty much a catch-all for you. Something done fucked up and now there's water in your lungs. So Alex is making up all that stuff about them having patents on the Coronaviruses, which is allowing the scientists to do their work. There's an article in the New England Journal of Medicine from January 24th, which discusses a CDC investigation and research team going to Wuhan and collecting samples from which they were able to identify the viral genome sequence of this strain. All the information is perfectly available, but Alex would rather yell about the Gates family funding animal disease research because it helps him build panic.

His business model largely relies on his audience being scared. And events like this are basically his sweeps week. It's like a Super Bowl for him. It's legitimately disgusting. That article that Alex is referencing is about Johnson and Johnson or J&J and how their chief scientific officer said he's confident that they could make a vaccine. Alex didn't read this article, hence calling them J&J. He's just reading a headline. There's nothing in that article that talks about them having patented viruses and just mixing them all up. In fact, the article explicitly says, quote, Stauffles, who's the Johnson and Johnson chief scientific officer, said that the pharmaceutical company needed to start from scratch on this vaccine, which kind of runs counter to the

narrative that Alex is pushing. Yeah, but you know, when you when you bake biscuits from scratch, you have all the ingredients and you just mix them up so that can still work. I'll still give them that one. Okay, I'm not because really all this is is trying to heighten the mood, heighten the fear, heighten the panic and then funnel it somewhere. Yeah, absolutely. It's very clear where that infomercial is going on this episode. We have had sources through the big food industry and through, you know, several major food suppliers that institutional groups, governmental groups, corporate groups are buying up all the food and that the food prices, raw food prices are are skyrocketing. Well, that indeed is now happening and you're now seeing that in the

news today. And storeable food is selling out everywhere. Most of the big storeable food suppliers are already sold out because they sold out to big institutional groups. My patriot that puts out info or select that's their entire line of food, just info or sticker on it still has food. They're still able to guarantee delivery within seven to nine days. Other people will tell you they can do that. I can tell you most of them won't, but that could change at any time. That means if you get your order in now, you will get it within seven to nine days. Oh my God, there's there's a crisis going on and it's causing food prices to go up really high. But hey, call my Patriots. They'll take care of you. Fuck you. Fuck you. All these other places they don't they don't even have any

food to buy. You want to buy food, but you can't get it anywhere else. Fuck off. So interestingly, the US Department of Agriculture just put out their food price outlook report for 2020. And what do you know? It's the exact opposite of what Alex is saying. From the report, quote, the 2020 consumer price index forecast indicates a continuation of low inflation at grocery stores and supermarkets in 2020 food at home prices are expected to increase in the range of between 0.5 and 1.5 percent as potentially the fifth year in a row with deflating or lower than average inflating retail food prices. See, there's a 20 year historical average of 2% rise in food prices. So this is well within or even below that average. Yeah, given overall inflation factors,

this could be a maintaining or even decreasing of point of purchase price for consumers within the United States relatively speaking. Yeah, I got you. This is true the United States where Alex's primary market of listeners is located. However, it's not uniformly true in the world. For instance, India is currently seeing food prices jump considerably with most experts pointing to oil price instability as being a major factor in the country's retail market inflation. Another major driver is the supply chain to quote an article from courts India, quote, prices of vegetables and many fruits were driven high because crop damages caused by excessive and unseasonal rains which hit supplies. I can't imagine that many of these people in India that

are affected by this are in the target market of Alex's food buckets though. So I don't know how this relates. I think there's a opening though. Maybe I think that's a new market. I would imagine not. I don't think you don't think so. I don't know shipping to India give Modi a call. See if he wants to start buying food. So there's also a recent article in the BBC about how Brexit will likely lead to higher food prices in the UK and the people there would probably just need to adjust to that. But Alex is in favor of Brexit, so it doesn't seem like he would want to bring that up as a potential consequence of readjustment. Yeah, it does seem like Brexit is going poorly when after everybody's already agreed to Brexit. Now they're getting all of these like, oh yeah,

your food prices are going to go up. This is going to go up. This is going to go up. I don't know if you guys knew this or not. Brexit was a bad idea. Hey guys. Oh yeah. So there's also been reports and Reuters about rising food prices in Wuhan during the quarantine and I think that's a problem. I've not seen any numbers or hard information about the exact kind of rising prices. So it's kind of difficult for me to assess. But this is the kind of thing you see in most emergency situations. Unfortunately, people get gouge prices when they have the ability to do so. Like just last week you saw Uber and Lyft charging people insanely elevated rates after the shooting in downtown Seattle. There was increased demand. And so the price for the

available supply rose. Like in that case, it was the result of like automated algorithms according to the companies. Yeah. So, you know, it's not like malicious from a human standpoint, but it's just mirroring what happens with, you know, a lot of instances. I mean, it's exactly what they desire the free market. I don't know. There are a lot of there are laws in place in the United States that forbid price gouging in situations when a state of emergency has been declared, but that law doesn't apply to other countries. And honestly, you can find a lot of people here in the United States that take the position that like if you are in the position to sell someone something they need to survive, you should be able to charge them whatever the

fuck you want. These people are often libertarians, which Alex pretends to be. So I don't know what philosophical position he comes from where he's opposed to price gouging. Whatever is happening on the day, right? He is for or against and that is the end, right? Anyway, my point here is that the rising food prices in Wuhan are a concern and it's something that the Chinese government has made clear that they are aware of and we will see what happens from there. The larger point here is that Alex is selling these food buckets not to people in Wuhan. He's selling them to people in the United States. He's trying to use the optics of that city in quarantine to push his products, which is disgusting. Yeah, and the underlying message is this is going to happen to you.

Wow, even if it's not happening, even if it's not happening now here, you can already know because the globalists are using this to take a worldwide and kill fifty six million people and that may not be an underlying message a little bit later in the show. Yeah, it might be an explicit message and it does seem odd that you would be selling food buckets if previously we've already confirmed that the world is already done and the human races ended. Oh yeah, Mike Adams did say this. Yeah, it's over for humanity. There will only be lone survivors. So I mean, I mean, yeah, but that's why you need that's why you need the food. Yeah, you want to be one of the loans. This all still makes sense. Again, Mark Wahlberg. So Alex, he's talking about these rising

food prices and his food buckets being the solution to it. So it's kind of funny that he ends his plug like this, but we have the lowest prices you're going to find from my patriot or any other distributors at info or store dot com. In fact, we were way lower than all of them, but they called your stance and said, look, our prices have gone way up. You're going to have to raise it up to at least this point, but info or store dot com has the lowest price you're going to find on the high quality food from my patriot supply dot com. And the order just goes to them every hour. And then they ship it out right there. And then that also funds the info war, which is a 360 win. But the big deal is that according to the UN zone definition, the coronavirus

is now a global pandemic. And obviously it's synthetic. Okay. Obviously, right. Obviously, sure. Obviously, totally. How could you not know that it was synthetic? I love how Alex's plug for the food buckets was based on the idea that food prices are going up. So there's the solution to that. And it ends with him saying that the prices of his food buckets are going up. Well, I mean, food prices are going up, dad, given that the Department of Agriculture has said that food prices are not projected to go up. It seems like some of the narrative he's doing, this might just be a rationalization for him rising prices so he can make a little money, which he's been clear. He's not been doing lately. That could be no money is coming in. It is a good angle to take if you

are looking at your sales and you're going like, Oh, the food is down. If we got a virus, guess who's can't eat food now. Right. And if you're not making money at the current rate of sale or whatever, one of the strategies you could employ is rising margins. Yeah. So this might be a rationalization to raise margins to make money without having to say that's what you're doing. Yeah. Seems maybe like that's the case. I'm not sure. Also, I'm not sure that the UN has a formal definition of pandemic that's really meaningful here. Alex may have wanted to say the World Health Organization, but he's just riffing. So his mind just plugged in the UN there, I think. Why not? There's a lot of controversy with the World Health Organization and their definition of pandemic.

Many at the World Health Organization say they don't really have a definition, but they have descriptions of what constitutes a pandemic and they all own the board game. That is true. Yes. Yeah. Generally, the guideline that people go by is that, you know, the six phase model that we discussed on the last episode phase six in a pandemic is the, well, it's the pandemic phase in an outbreak, which is characterized by a quote virus causing community level outbreaks in at least two World Health Organization regions. According to that definition, the coronavirus outbreak does not constitute a pandemic at this point. There is a community level outbreak in China, but we do not have evidence that is the case in any other region where there have been

cases confirmed. So even if Alex wants to talk about the World Health Organization's definition, yeah, it doesn't apply, but it turns out that he's not talking about the UN definition. He's not even talking about the World Health Organization definition. Here's what he's talking about. So the definition of a pandemic from Miriam Webster dictionary. You can also go to all right. You got the sites occurring over a wide geographic area and affecting an exponentially high proportion of the population. What's exponential mean? Go to Miriam Webster. They'll help you out that the pathogen. No, don't do this is exponentially stop it. Logrithmically. No, this is not going to go well. Double it every time it's able to replicate and spread.

People use the word exponentially to just mean something is growing rapidly, like in the colloquial sense, but it does have an actual meaning that Alex definitely doesn't know. It means that growth is characterized by this multiplication, not by doubling. Yes. At the first interval, it's just the base growth rate. At the second, it's that rate squared. At the third, it's that rate cubed, and so on. Yeah. Typically, in the early stages of viruses spreading, they do sometimes tend to show exponential growth until there's a countervailing force against it, like a vaccine or some sort of an intervention method. This is not really all that controversial, but it's a little strange to recognize that Alex doesn't know what the word exponential means. Also, the Miriam

Webster definition of pandemic has literally no bearing on what the World Health Organization or UN might declare to be a pandemic. Alex can't use this dictionary to pull some kind of a gotcha on this one. I don't know. I'm pretty sure he nailed it. Also get this by the definition of pandemic. I added the point about exponential because that's what they really call a raging pandemic. Miriam Webster is just exponentially growing. The definition was occurring over a wide geographic area and affecting a exceptionally high proportion of the population. Alex just added the word exponentially because he wanted to. Yeah, he's he's like by the textbook definition. I would throw words in there. I'm going to change the definition. I just I just

the mind boggles at how bad you can really be at something, but like you can be so bad at it and still get millions of dollars. That's infuriating. What's fascinating about how bad he is at it is he's bad at hiding the badness. Yeah, like it's somehow just like it's fine. If I just admit I'm just throwing random words. The change definition doesn't even matter. Who cares doesn't even matter. Yeah, he's bad and sloppy. So you know he's creating fear about this outbreak certainly, but one of the other things that he's doing is he's now at the stage in his coverage where it's important to pivot this fear into what's going to come. Sure, because he knows that eventually this will he won't be able to make money on this forever now and so he does that here

in China. You've got a lot of rundown people and a lot of pollution and whenever these viruses break out there, they have a higher kill rate in China than they do in other parts of the world. Still it's a terrible thing, but it's the response to it and the vaccine they've gotten the wings. I've got articles here where they're saying, oh, Google and Facebook are blocking liars claiming that this was made in a lab and that they've got a vaccine for it. It's part of a larger plan. Who wouldn't speculate like that with the long histories of secret testing on the public by this government and others and the tainted vaccines and the things they've been caught adding and the sock admitting they put cancer viruses in it and said, oh, there's too many people.

Anyways, I can play PBS interviews. If you want to see them, you know, film that was not a sock. Again, are you sure? Hilliman in an interview. No, but he said he can play a conversation with PBS Saban. He can play the PBS clips. Right. And in it, it does say, Salk does say there's too many people anywhere. He says there's too many people anyway in the clip that he plays and has played and there is his example. It's not Salk. Okay. Salk is not involved. All right. It's Albert Saban. Get your information right, Alex. And like, dude, yes, of course, I think that these places like Facebook, these platforms have a certain amount of responsibility. Yeah, to that they have a shirt for so long. Sure. Yeah, to tamp down on some

of the stuff that could be dangerous that could lead to people being hurt. I think that it's totally fine. When Alex says, why wouldn't you speculate about this stuff? It's one thing to be speculative. It's another to be a liar who's trying to sell food buckets and weird pills. It's it's not it's not the same thing. No, Facebook isn't quashing posts on Facebook where it's like I'm suspicious of the government. They are quashing malicious actors like Alex Jones misinformation is different than what like, hey, you know, we should be cautious about this. Yeah, informed opinions are different than, aha, the Chinese are doing this as a bi-weapon release in order to, you know, like it's different. Informed opinions are usually

better than we're all gonna die. We're all gonna die. We're all gonna die by the food. And I think this next clip is actually really clearly demonstrative of why Alex is not just being suspicious and speculating. Yes, this virus is deadly. It's not like SARS and things that were just to hype up and scare people. Why not killed a few hundred? This is already killed thousands and thousands. That's pouring out the chai comms can't contain it. The censorship isn't working. And it does have a high kill rate. Hell, it's 5%. It's devastating lands. It says it can be high as 18%. According to a BBC report from January 28th, the day of this episode, the confirmed death toll is currently at 106. Conversely, SARS killed 778 people. But another important aspect

of that is that there were deaths in 17 different countries from SARS as opposed to the current situation which has been entirely in China. A death is a death. That is true. But from the perspective of like gauging the spread of a virus, it matters a lot where the deaths are happening. If they're in a bunch of different countries, it demonstrates a different situation. Alex is completely outside the accepted reality with his claim that thousands and thousands have died from this outbreak. I suspect that he's getting this information from noted Muslim hater Pamela Geller's website where she posted a breaking story about there being 10,000 dead. According to factcheck.com, this story was sourced from a blog post on a website that's

largely about gold quote which has a disclaimer that says it can't vouch for the accuracy or completeness of its information. Now that is a big disclaimer. Quite I would say I would say the I think we might be lying is a huge disclaimer. Might be bullshit. Yeah. This website, jsmineset.com had published an email, an anonymous person sent them who was relating a phone call he'd had with a friend who had spoken to a Chinese friend who had information from family in Wuhan. If you're keeping track at best, this is fourth hand information at the point of this blog posting it. The alleged family in Wuhan is first. The Chinese friend is second. The friend on the phone is third and the anonymous emailer is fourth hand. Then Pamela Geller using this site as a source makes

it fifth hand information on her site. No one who operates a legitimate news or information out that would ever accept this kind of work. It's just gossip basically. She will be testifying in the impeachment hearings that the Republicans have chosen only her to testify would not be spread. Alex is misusing the information also in that Lancet article that he's talking about in the actual article researchers examined 59 cases of people who had been admitted to Chinese hospital with pneumonia symptoms, which they then whittled down to 41 cases who also tested positive for the novel coronavirus. All of them had pneumonia, which indicates that these are all the most severe sort of cases among the larger population of people who come down with

the virus. Just on this count. This is not a fair study to extrapolate to the entire population or even the entire population of people who come down with the coronavirus. No no viral no virologist would be like 41. That's enough of a test. So no, that's a limitation. Yeah, and none would take that information that is provided in this paper and then say that it is whatever. Formally true all the time for all sorts of cases. The report does say that there's a 15% incidence of patients in that 41 sample size who died, which is six of them. However, 28 individuals or 68% recovered and were discharged from the hospital, but Alex doesn't want to point that out. Also, it's hard to say if there's any direct parallels here, but of the sample set that

they had 15% of the patients also had preexisting hypertension and 15% had a history of cardiovascular disease. Based on the information available in the report, I can't say if those are all the same 15 right right, but it's just to illustrate that there are co mingling variables that Alex isn't considering and make this a different picture right. I don't think anybody thinks that most I mean maybe I'm way off base since we're dealing with Alex and people believe anything, but in most viral cases, nobody is saying that the most healthy members of society are going to instantly die if they get this Corona virus. It's generally the the elderly children and the children generally that's most well regular people are saying yeah. Yeah, Alex. It's unclear. I was

like nobody believes that and then I was like no never mind. Alex is saying straight up 15% of the or 18% of the people who get this are going to die. Anyone 18% of everyone. Also the report even says quote with the limited number of cases it's difficult to assess host risk factors for disease severity and mortality with multi variable adjusted methods. This is a modest sized case series of patients admitted to hospital collection of standardized data for the larger cohorts would help to further define the clinical presentation natural history and risk factors to put that more succinctly. What they're saying is this is a small group that we looked at and we need more information to know if any of this could be explained by other variables about the specific

people that we looked at or whatever impact that might have had on the results. Yeah, see this is where we get into trouble again with scientists like yes I understand what you were saying and I indeed understand your interpretation of what he was saying but ultimately let's boil it down still further. We don't know yet we still got more work to do. Sure, the yet interestingly even this study doesn't say there's a death rate of 18%. It says 15%. This again is another example of Alex being unable to stop himself from exaggerating from lying to make his narratives more severe. He strips literally all context from this Lancet report and exaggerates its conclusion while simultaneously blindly reporting as gospel some dumb fifth hand bullshit Pamela Geller

posts on her blog. This is just embarrassing and dangerous work here and you should be ashamed of himself. This is awful. I don't even like awful stuff. I don't even like the use of a percentage whenever you're dealing with such a small sample size like I would prefer a fraction because 15% people go like oh well 15 out of 100 right not six out of 40. So it's it's one of those things where it's like we know it doesn't it's not I don't know information. Yeah, exactly six for 40. Hey study. Hey when we get to 100 you can use percentages until then it's fractions all the way. All right. Fair enough. When you're in charge that's a little do rule number one. So Alex has some pretty severe news about the United States and this virus and I don't think what he's

saying is true. I haven't made this announcement yet because I don't know how to make it but if you go to info wars.com you see the live feed headline. It's official. This is now a global pandemic coronavirus is now a global pandemic. But what does it say right after that? U.S. officials believe that the virus has already broken out of containment on the west coast. What cities. When was it in containment on the west coast. They believe it. Now I'm saying believe it. That's not really what they said. They said something else. I'm just saying I'm saying they believe they believe it's containment with Chinese students that came in after the Chinese New Year and they're preparing for massive emergencies and are trying to figure

out how to announce this to the public and I don't want panic. Oh shit. Yeah. Yeah. Oh shit. I can find literally no evidence for anything Alex is saying here other than his own words as of this recording there are five cases confirmed to the virus in the United States and all of them had been people who had been to Wuhan. There's no evidence that there had been any person to person transmission in the United States. I have a particular disrespect for Alex saying that he doesn't want to panic. Literally everything he's been doing is tailor made to cause a certain amount of panic and a certain type of panic in people. When he says that he doesn't want to panic he means he doesn't want people to lose their shit and start looting. He doesn't want

that kind of panic. He wants a controlled panic he can profit off of. He wants to stoke just enough fear in his audience that he can get them to buy all his food and shit but not enough that they start killing people. He is a calculated monster. Yeah. That's the line he's trying to walk here. That's why he throws in things like I don't want to cause a panic. Yeah. He has to sort of try and reel it back in a tiny bit but at the same time make it super sensational. So annoying. Yeah. Because we know if we have 10 days of panic then people are going to start eating each other. True. He can't allow that. No. You don't want cannibalism. So I want to put that on his gravestone. That's not what they said. They actually said something else. Yeah. All right. You can't.

You can't even do that. That's unfair. Yeah. That's that's that's punching me in the face and telling me you didn't. Right. That's bullshit. That's just the example of being him being bad at this bad. Yeah. Well they didn't say that. Yeah. So this is just gross. They were saying it's fair monitoring and panicking last week to say 40 something thousand at it. Now the Chinese government today said 300,000 probably do. And that's just in Wuhan. So this whole thing is out of control. We need to be praying about it. And I tell you there's no silver bullet to all of this. How about a vaccine? I personally have been taking vitamin D3 and vitamin K before short.com. It's great. You should always be taking any ways to the winter. Great. Great. Great stuff. I mean you

can just see it's like it's clear if you if you listen to awful if you listen to his show with any sort of a critical eye or ear. All you see is like oh all of this is like really getting ramped up and then you funnel it somewhere. Yeah. Really funnel it like getting the oh there's all these hundreds of thousands of people. Hey you know it's all everyone's lying about this and what you need to do. Hey there's no silver bullet but you should buy a ship from my store. Oh hey food prices are skyrocketing everywhere. It's going to be a disaster. No one can find food. Get my buckets. Yeah. Oh it's it's a clear formula. Even used car salesman looked out. No used car salesman is going to go out there and be like hey man looters are going to light your car on fire.

You better get it back up right now. Get it back up right now. Your car will be lit on fire tomorrow. And if not tomorrow next week. Yeah. So it's the season of health and that means that the health ranger is on every day. Jesus. So Mike Adams stops in for a little visit. Shouldn't he not be allowed back on. He's already declared the end of humanity. You got you don't get better than that. It's it is a situation where he sort of blew the sort of finale a little bit early. Yeah you wait till the end of the week. It should be a situation now where like Alex should be like all right. We got like Adams on the show is reporting live from a bunker deep underground where he's stocked up. Absolutely. Absolutely. We got Mike Adams here who put his fucking money where his mouth is

right. He is in an undisclosed location. You won't even tell me where he's at because he doesn't trust me. He thinks I might get the coronavirus. And as we all know as we all know it only takes me five days to go cannibal. So let's see what happens. Yeah. So I mean it's all very stupid but he has who they're just fear mongering. Like it's it's really absurd. Am I right to say the global pandemic is here. I mean it's exponential. It's large numbers and it's all over the world. Isn't that the definition. No. It is. It's a global pandemic. And by the way the media in America is now complicit in the cover up that may cost millions of people their lives. The media will get people killed. And the same media that pushes transgenders and what are they going to do next

push trans viralism like that. Identify as a person who doesn't have the virus. Hey we don't need hospitals in California. Just be a trans viralist person. That's how you know they are not taking any of this shit. That is that is the most teddy bears joke. That's a mad elf ring character. His name is teddy bears. No one listening as I know. I know it's just so one person listening knows what you're talking about. He doesn't listen. I was talking about drufki. Okay. Yeah. That's true. Yeah. I mean that's just like just shit. I mean you're just you're just taking opportunities to get your weird social punches in. That means the transgender. What's next. Trans virus. Yeah. Everybody. Nobody. Nobody's laughing. Good stuff. Oh boy. Good

stuff. All right. I'm going to need another beer. Here's where Alex gets down to like I think this is what he thinks the conspiracy is. This is dumb. You've been harping and so have I for more than three weeks that this could be a bio weapon release to bring down the global economy as a way to counter nationalism and the globalists have said bad economies will hurt nationalists. So everything is about them. They can't they're incapable of understanding a larger world that isn't about themselves. I don't understand something like this virus. A break is not just a natural phenomenon that people need to come together and try and mitigate the damages help each other as best as possible. No it's an attack on Trump and nationalism.

This virus sure this virus was released by the globalists in order to spread fear panic whatever crash the stock market which you know the dominoes you keep seeing which one falls boom at the end Trump and nationalism are under attack. That's it. Yeah. That's it. It's so I don't even know. I cynical doesn't even seem like the right word. It's just it's such a disgusting I mean it's just narcissism. He is speaking for the shared experience of humanity. Most of us live in Austin in a mansion and make millions of dollars scamming people with with pills and that's a normal thing. That's a human behavior that we all share. Right. No. Oh well then he's a narcissist. So Alex gets back to trying to sell food buckets because I really I can't stress

this enough. It comes up over and over and over and over again. It is just like a very consistent like marketing department gave him a call. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. They just know well enough to know like this is good. We got to push up food sales and we got our chances our opportunity. I have sources in industry that have talked to all the big storable foods company heads and institutional buyers started who are the last week buying up all the food they had then it exploded and by Friday basically everybody was sold out except a few suppliers that are amongst the biggest like my Patriot supply that we private label from literally other places are telling you they're going to have storable food but they're already sold out. My Patriot is boxing and making it as

fast as they can as it's fresh. When you get it through info or short.com that helps fund us but it's the exact same assembly line just our stickers are thrown on it info or select and that was done before so we can offer you an even lower price but I'm not engaged in a plug here as much as I am explaining that talking to the folks there they said yeah it's big institutional buyers not just us but other folks obviously can't say who the customers are but it's it's governmental and things like that it's corporations and I said let me guess the west coast and they said yeah of course west coast and they said sure Seattle well obviously that's the first place that's the biggest Chinese cities you know here in the United States Seattle that's where all the students

are at yeah this is extremely disgusting what's going on this is so ridiculous Alex is trying to spin a conspiracy that the coronavirus is going to explode on the west coast and Seattle due to the high Chinese population in Seattle where apparently institutional buyers of food are storing up tons of stuff so you need to act now by survival food buckets yep that sounds right there are a few problems of this theory what first Seattle has the ninth highest Chinese American population of major US cities with approximately 30,000 Chinese citizens those are the ones you know compare that to the 562,000 Chinese Americans in New York and you should get a you know an idea of scale between first and ninth nobody's gonna nobody's gonna send a bio virus out to New York you start with Seattle

that's close to Portland it'll get out it's all over for the Libs Alex did say the west coast so I'm going to take New York out of the equation let's consider that there are 180,000 Chinese Americans in San Francisco 77,000 in Los Angeles 75,000 in San Jose 43,000 in San Diego 43,000 in Oakland 34,000 in Irvine California all higher than Seattle yeah his shit about college students is nonsense too the biggest school in Seattle is the University of Washington Seattle and they have a smaller Asian student body than UT Austin also the case of the person who had corona virus in Washington state that he wasn't a college student and he wasn't in Seattle it was a man in his 30s who lived in Everett Washington who had been to Wuhan honestly all

this what was he doing going to Wuhan would have been a business no I want to know that what's going on with this guy let's follow him up put his picture online Jordan dox him bad idea okay that sort of speculation makes more sense than what Alex is doing I know and it's still way wrong yeah demanding to know what this guy was doing in China is a more sensible conspiracy than this yeah this all just comes down to make it trying to make Chinese Americans seem scary to Alex's audience that sell his food buckets yeah that's never gone wrong we've never treated an entire Asian population negatively in this country right certainly not this is all just shit this is an infomercial for the food yeah this is an epic and also of course looming in the background the pills

yeah yeah if you're getting the food you might as well get the pills might as well but mix it up yeah man yeah like a vaccine so there's more conspiracies afoot my god I'm sure a smart guy even mainline news is saying that it looks like the virus may have been stolen by chai comms sure in lab some of the same people were involved it turns out in weird stuff with a bola weird stuff I mean this sounds like a movie script for a horror movie what do you really think is going on here well isn't it interesting that what we were saying three or four or five days ago that was immediately called fake news by the mainstream media now they are reporting and confirming so we weren't fake news we were ahead of their news just to remind

you here's what Mike Adams was saying a couple days ago it's over for humanity only be lone survivors okay he's really not bringing it on this episode he's got some bad jokes he's it's not going well yeah so that story Alex is talking about being mainstream news it's not it's bullshit this all started with a guy on twitter named kyle bass posting a cbc news story from last july adding the caption quote a husband and wife chinese spy team were recently removed from a level four infectious disease facility in canada for sending pathogens to the wuhan facility this tweet was retweeted thousands of times and the story began to take traction and conspiracy communities the only problem is the article that he linked to didn't

say any of that stuff that's not what they said they said something different wow it's an alex strategy the two people who were taken out of the national microbiology lab in winnipeg were suspected of making an administrative violation and every organization that's involved in this matter as well as the cbc reporting have stressed that nothing surrounding this case involves any kind of public danger or anything close to what this tweet is alleging god that must suck zero hedge started taking uh taking this as a launching point to start speculating that china stole the virus as a bio weapon and just caught fire in the dumb dumb worlds of people who don't read yeah that'll happen these people are out for sensationalism and traffic and the

prospect of chinese spies sending the very same virus that ends up causing an outbreak is a really good way to get eyeballs on your shit but it's not supported by actual facts or reporting to the point where someone like cbc is reporting um that you know you're reporting a couple of chinese scientists to remove from a lab in july that's fair game this did happen yeah it's supported by available evidence in order to come up with the rest of the stuff the people like alex are saying about this story you have to make up a whole lot of details and simultaneously you have to insist that everyone who's commented on this story is lying this is just shitty stuff that's that's frustrating there is no conspiracy he won't latch on to who it's just terrible just such bad work

god damn it that they will leap upon anything any desperate thing just one tweet the right wing machine will find it and they'll turn it into something insane yep if it works yeah three million illegals voted fuck off right so uh you might ask at this point you know like hey why isn't trump doing anything i don't know why you would ask if it's broken containment in seattle right why isn't he stopping flights from china well they didn't why isn't he doing anything because they didn't vote for him well no turns out mike's got mike knows what's up why isn't trump saying no sorry no chinese coming into the united states while we see how bad this is for say a week or so exactly it's a huge question and my criticism of the president on this issue

comes from two different vectors here number one the president he's he's a very successful business person a very intelligent person but he does not have experience in epidemiology or virology or laboratory analytics or you know health care issues that's not he's just playing so he's relying on experts who are no doubt lying to him and they can be sure everything's okay so when this goes south he gets the blame that's exactly right and since he doesn't have the background in this area he doesn't know how to ask the right questions or demand the right evidence they're making this up it sounds like uh trump is gonna need a to a point a new health ranger yeah yeah oh god yeah i mean like that's all just made up there's nothing behind that no that's well

yeah trump isn't doing anything because his advisors are lying they are lying to him yes obviously you know that only i the health ranger who have deemed humanity over right what's up it does seem like he he's he's planning for a future that doesn't seem to be uh also part of his plan for the future so that's the one vector that mike has to criticize i was only one vector that was one of the vectors okay his expert friends i guess sure advisors are lying to him yeah and here's the second vector which is so much worse and secondly i think that trump is very much concerned that any loss of faith in the stock market could impact his reelection chances he's right so you know a bubble market depends on irrational exuberance and you know what shatters

irrational exuberance is fear fear of the unknown that's what causes people to sell stocks none of the stuff that alex and mike are saying is connected to reality at all but i think this clip is really interesting you have mike basically saying that trump isn't taking the coronavirus outbreak seriously because he doesn't want to hurt the stock market and thus hurt his chances for reelection mike adams trump will let millions die to get a reelection yeah yeah even in their fantasy world where they're bending over backwards to defend an indefensible president they still have to fall back on excuses like trump would act to protect the health of american citizens but his personal interest in reelection is more important to him yeah he's going to stand up

for honest everyday americans by letting a large number of them die yeah in order to facilitate his reelection yeah yeah that makes sense it's clips like this that just make me think that these people have no idea what they're even saying no like they're openly expressing support for a leader who would risk the lives of the entire country if it means holding on to power and yet somehow they point the finger at uh the left as being obsessed with uh holding on to power at all costs yeah like this is i mean they they're faint to see world doesn't even make sense it's absurd yeah mike adams and then and then the obvious like explanation of how to exploit the bubble economy is very frustrating to me that's a that should be illegal to admit that it depends on

irrational exuberance dan which means no rational person would think it's a good idea well so mike he's just making so much shit up like this is all made up i i want to stress that before we even listen to this clip there is nothing to back this up it is mike's uh ideas fantasies well as i mentioned yesterday on your show alex i believe that they were working on this strain and they they were not yet ready to release it why probably needed a few more tweaks to make more deadly but it got out before they were ready to release it how i don't believe they would have released it in china on purpose i think they would have released it in africa

why perhaps in in north america or mexico exactly because china is not going to want to get the blame of this right what they're just making this up none of that means anything that's just like hey this is what i feel isn't it more interesting if we talk about it like this it was a bio weapon that they plan to release somewhere else but it got out of the lab too early by accident yeah yeah it does seem like they're more spitballing script ideas yeah no shit it does seem a little bit more like they're they're tossing ideas back blue sky thinking how or how is everybody going to die on this one prove a damn thing you doesn't need dicks he's mike he put ebola in his own bloodstream no he didn't he just said to other people i know

which is worse great yeah so alex uh man if you ever if you need any indication that he's an opportunist he's a crass piece of shit just trying to sell stuff this is uh is maybe as good as you're going to get because of what's happening and i said i couldn't do 50 off anymore because it doesn't give us the margins to fund ourselves i'm not going to then when we have an emergency like this raise prices on the products in fact i'm going to lower them even though these things will all sell out when i tell you winter sun's about to sell in the next couple days it's selling out right now okay current sales rates immune we can't get more for eight weeks by the way immune defense products super silver toothpaste 50 percent off super silver wound gel 50 percent off

we've got to have big sales now because you got to strike while the iron's hot there's a situation that i can exploit to cause panic that leads people towards uh maybe wanting to buy the things that i have given better we just move all this product i'm gonna use these as loss leaders and hopefully the profit margins on the food buckets that i am pushing real hard today maybe it'll all work out maybe it'll all work out for me it's it's so obvious yeah this is a bad grift yeah yeah it's really pretty disgusting now we're done with my yeah but alex has another guest this guy is a holocaust denier right uh he is someone who i don't even think you need to add that anymore now that we're in info war season seven right i think we can just leave a holocaust denier is

assumed it's at least lurking in the background of too many of his guests um he's a guy who has a made up resume and his name is dr steve pechenek and uh here we go alex has here we go alex has him on for a reason yeah um it's not the virus to also declare the end of humanity no oh um he's on to talk about john bolton and okay okay all right what's interesting about that right is alex it's clear he doesn't vet any of his guests or even the people who he knows really well because the spoiler alert steve ends up completely contradicting alex's virus narrative yeah that sounds right so that's uh not not a great booking um but like i said he's on to talk about bolton and here is alex saying that i wanted to get dr steve pechenek on because

he knows ambassador bolton and is aware of their neocon ways and and and warned trump at the time i remember he was on a couple years ago was like what the hell are you doing trump bringing bolton in i have no idea if steve actually knows john bolton although i can say that the last time steve was definitely in the state department was prior to bolton enter public entering public service at that time john bolton was a lawyer at the firm of covington and burling also steve did warn alex about john bolton and said trump can't allow him to be in the white house and alex didn't listen to him because roger told him that bolton was cool yeah so you can trust uh you can trust roger i don't want to i'm not going to give steve uh uh but i'm not going to give him a point

for this no i as a knee jerk uh hatred of all things neocon so whatever anyway steve immediately pretty quickly gets to saying they're like hey man what they're doing with this virus outbreak is totally cool president g appreciated what trump had said about transparency in china about the fact that she had done an appropriate uh seclusion of different areas and he he tied off punan and hubei uh because of the uh flu epidemic oops steve's uh steve's whole point doesn't matter is there too they're handling this appropriately they're doing yeah you shouldn't panic they appreciate what trump is doing don't need to worry trump appreciates them it's a mutual appreciation humanity is going to last thousands more years we're going to get to the stars and populate

the entire galaxy oh gotcha so a lot of steve's appearance is just yelling dumb nonsense about how like the state is pointless sure and and what have you so we're not going to listen i'm not going to listen to a ton of that but there are some points that are kind of interesting this one what's really happening at this particular point is the absurdity of our representatives and how little they really do in a time of need right now we have a world epidemic is it going to affect america maybe yes maybe no has there been a surgeon general appointed i haven't seen any has public health service officers been appointed i haven't seen any those aren't the house of representatives job dude steve does make a great point though like he

hasn't seen the uh there be a surgeon general no he hasn't i wonder why dan i wonder why too it seems like somebody somebody has the ability to appoint a surgeon general i wonder i mean steve doesn't yeah i hasn't seen one appointed yeah i don't know i don't think the house of representatives is really failing us on this one i don't know so steve has this weird thing where he thinks that the newspapers talk to him and he thinks that he's speaking back to powerful people yes when he comes on alex's show or he makes his youtube videos naturally and i would generally err on the side of thinking it's like just sort of a flourish of language or something but it's so consistent like in in this next clip he he really seems to think like

he's sending a message to nancy polosi through alex's show good nancy polosi is basically what we call an idiot salon we had to teach her on this show that we are a republic not a democracy so she went back and read all about the republic he's really seems to be expressing that through alex's show they have taught nancy polosi about the nature of a republic and she's gone and done some research on it this is this is seriously disturbed behavior yeah that that doesn't sound like any kind of rhetorical flourish there that seems like he is remembering fondly a time when he taught nancy polosi uh the the rules of the republic yeah i don't think that happened either so alex is having a good time talking to steve uh but you know all good things must be interrupted

when you need to make sales pitches which he does ladies and gentlemen i am not an opportunist i'm a trendsetter with what my goal is to promote the lifestyle and and freedom and things that i think are great up against the tyranny that the globalists promote because i believe you're going to want to buy in to having a free open truly constitutional renaissance-based system or the american system versus the chi-com system or the eu you know return of modern nobility models or all those old like the ones deep chenic ones and so that's what that's what info wars promotes notice for the last few months i'm saying hey our great vitamin d3 is known in all these big studies to really be antiviral and very strong and we will know

getting sunlight in the winter it's getting sun that helps boost your immunity and it's people that have the deficiencies that are open to the stuff and again knock on wood i haven't had a fever in over four years and it's because i take fish oil every day that's illegal has some of the best sources of natural vitamin d3 so yes we still have our vitamin d3 with vitamin k 33 off even though it's very close to selling out i'm going to keep it there till it sells up so within a minute he's he starts saying by saying i'm not an opportunist and then he's using this uh uh outbreak as an opportunity to sell his shit it is the most infuriating verbal tick he has of starting every sentence with saying i'm not and then does exactly what he described yeah hey i'm not bragging here

right i'm not an opportunist take opportunity he's the ultimate opportunist it's so annoying that's a reference to edge no get out of here anyway um bring me the cowboy that sings alex talks a little bit he's not a cowboy he was a drifter but he's not sure fair enough alex continues this plug and honestly i think i only kept this in because he says something that i think it's funny i'm gonna be in a bad mood exhausted already working 18 hours i got to do some overnight radio show used to i'd drink a half bottle of wine and drink four cups of coffee that doesn't work for me big old juicy fish oil gross so good yeah and it makes you sleep better so stuff it does for your body is really amazing first of all it's juicy fish oil which is ridiculous

that's disgusting that's disgusting hey man it gives you energy and makes you sleep yeah cool cool cool so um this mic down for this clip okay because this steve comes back in and he has something to say about this coronavirus oh boy and this clip is art okay this is a master stroke of steve pechenik using language this could be an agatha christian okay all right all right we have a corona a corona virus coming in for the most part we will be safe i can guarantee that the reason i can guarantee is because i treated a patient a month ago was the really the first case of the corona virus before it was ever reported of a gentleman who met with a chinese individual and got the pneumonia and was treated with high doses of antibiotics and i have to know

this individual very well because that individual happens to be me the first case to have it in the united states and now i'm saying to the public health service and the attorney general get your act together steve pechenik is patient zero of the corona virus steve is fucking lost his mind steve this is now the point where we just say oh you're fucking crazy oh yeah no we're well past that i know we're past that but when you're claiming that you treated yourself for the first case of this corona virus he does everything that's important every single relevant world event steve is at the center of that's he is raised he is not only the first person that got corona virus he also cured himself i just i just can't hang with that i can't that one's that one's banana

no it's amazing that that needs that needs a that that needs a commitment he needs to be committed it's amazing that like he says stuff like this and alex is just like yeah man you're amazing so anyway steve took issue earlier with the fact that there is no surgeon general and what do you know alex starts repeating that claim trump shouldn't create a panic but i agree he should have a surgeon general by now and they should say we're looking at this and and and so if something is really bad then they don't look like they were caught flat-footed man i mean it is a really interesting point that now like steve has brought up that there's no surgeon general and alex because alex or because steve has said he's repeating it as like that's a real criticism

jordan the surgeon general is named gerome adams he was confirmed by the united states yes he was confirmed by the senate on august third 2017 right if you want to make the point that he's not doing a good job go ahead do it but to pretend somehow that the bureaucracy is making sure there is no surgeon general is stupid both of these dudes don't even know that there is a surgeon general you don't even know that he's a real person have you seen him in person i've seen pictures oh oh pictures now mr big picture guy right let me tell you something those can be faked dude steve perchannic was in those pictures and they took him out steve is coming in and making an argument i haven't seen that there's a surgeon general right and now alex is like doubling down

on it neither of these dudes even know anything they don't know anything about what they're talking about no there is a fucking surgeon general you dumb asses and steve was the first patient who i i don't know how you can listen to a man say confidently and just so proudly proudly i was the first man with this global pandemic months months before it became an outbreak it's even better in wuhan china it's even better than that because like i can't stress enough how great the storytelling of that clip was the i treated the first patient and i know this man very well because it is me it's just there is there is a certain level of pageantry to it that i appreciate it yeah like i can't that person is me if steve

had just said i was the first person who got corona boring you wouldn't believe that shit at all fuck off this is a this is a master at work this is the way you do it yeah oh you treated him personally tell me more about this was me oh shit it was you this is a twist that i could not have seen coming at night you've done it again gorgeous stuff oh so anyway alex has been reading merriam webster's dictionary and adding words to definitions in order to prove that this is a pandemic and then he has steve pecanik who is you know an expert according to alex on all things and uh oh let let me assure your audience and the american audience we're not pandemic we have control this this will be controlled i don't want everybody panicking

oops shut him up shut him up right now yeah we can shut him up we can let him say that he i don't want anybody panicking that's fine fuck off yeah lying about having this and curing yourself that's one thing you are the contradicting it's a pandemic that's bad for business that's brutal but i think steve recognizes that maybe he's contradicting some of the narratives that alex is using to try and drive sales and so he decides i'm gonna go ahead and also help you sell pills i think all that you're saying is correct take the vitamin d take the fish oil stay healthy and you're less likely to get a pneumonia because the key you don't want to get a pneumonia getting pneumonia or coronavirus is the immunity system so as long as your immunity

system even if you're 60 70s or you're young and you're in good shape you take your vitamins you work out you stay healthy that virus is not going to be lethal now so that's number one number two the fact that we don't have a surgeon general and a public health service is disturbing we do have a surgeon general this whole thing is based on a faulty premise yep i guess we don't have to worry about it then i guess so steve yeah man he has done everything he really seems to have every single thing that has happened since like the mid 70s steve has had his finger in yep he was also the first person to get hiv cured that absolutely he did have a play in another outbreak recently of course he did and uh this one boy this is this is a big swing years ago when

we had the Ebola epidemic i had to sit down with a former friend of mine and ask this individual who was the former assistant surgeon general of the united states do we have a surgeon general the answer was no do we have a public health service that can stop the Ebola from coming in no i said will you have a problem if i order general demsey and others to send over 3000 us army order general demsey and cierra leon the answer was no that's what we did and i thank our military i thank general demsey who was chief of staff at the time in our army and our military officers who created a situation where there was no Ebola really coming into the united states and they redeployed assets out of iraq and afghanistan steve and do you know who all that old friend

was dan it was me steve told the chief of staff to deploy steve is given so i ordered the general right this dude is fucking wild now yeah he's gone off the rails oh totally this is crazy no but he's he's very high functioning within this uh this web of bullshit that he's spinning so it makes it much more difficult to uh for alex to pinpoint like where there's like this is a clear break from reality yeah or just a malicious lie yeah it's one of the two and and alex just isn't equipped to deal with it you know i actually ordered tom brady to lose in the playoffs is that right yeah i ordered him to do that in order to get him the wuhan virus and he dropped it in wuhan which is ironic because we had already named it that way before right well i mean like i i guess without steve

we would have ebola everywhere so that's great i'm glad uh he stopped ebola i really i really sometimes have a hard time keeping that information in my mind when steve says something like that and then you repeat it back to me mere moments later i'm like he couldn't possibly have said that anyway steve has a prescription for what we need to do my point is simple do not panic we have everything in control now president trump get your act together assign somebody in the as a surgeon general and create a public health service or appoint the military the secretary of defense asper to mobilize military so that we have a convenient way to control what comes in and out of our country so i guess his uh his angle is you got to either get a uh surgeon general which we have

or deploy the military to police the borders that's not good okay that uh can you imagine what these morons would say if they did deploy the military well if trump did they'd be fine oh yeah that's true yeah that's true but if another government did they would they would lose their fucking minds very against it yeah um so this is all stupid steve's whole thing is very dumb and uh but he has a third possibility you got either uh surgeon general male general sex death and actually it's not a third option it's actually like what we also need to do and at the same time without getting panicked go to the various universities and assess how many chinese or oriental students we have not to deport them just simply to know what's going on oh yeah that seems

like a real uh good thing to do i'm i'm telling you dan just cataloging every member of a certain race has never worked out poorly yeah i want names and addresses of every one of a certain race yeah i think that's bad that's probably bad and certainly i don't trust that sort of thing coming out of the mouth of somebody who calls them orientals yeah that's not good i was i was really hates to me i was really struggling with that one yeah that's that's no good so steve uh can uh can uh i mean you know add to his first person we need to focus on his mist side gone we need to make sure she's taking care of all of my information about the east comes from musicals it's uh it's weird man holocaust denier uh antiquated racist

steve is mess but i'm glad he survived that brush with the coronavirus yeah yeah jesus anyway he's uh he's done it it's largely him yelling nonsense about the uh the like john bolton's pathological liar and sure i don't really care no i don't care to hear his perspective on that absolutely that is what it is i want to i want him to be set down in a deposition style thing and just ask just peppered questions about historical events just to see where he thinks he fits in i bet he would know a lot of like details about a lot for sure like a lot of absolutely and then i want to hear him claim to have done it oh yeah that's what i want oh that would be amazing that's be oh just a long form video i think we could bang out enough to get him committed

for the rest of his life yeah two hours max so steve is done and at this point i like i should reveal like one of the things that i really wanted to do this episode for is because on the 27th news broke that wolf gang helbig got arrested yes uh the guy who alex had on many times yeah and it was the basis for a lot of alex's reporting about sandy hook i'm sure alex had a lot to say about it wolf gang helbig got arrested because he had gotten Leonard posner's personal information right his id and his social security number and was sending it out to people yeah that's that if that wasn't a crime i'd be real mad now it's an interesting theory that i i think is possible but i have no idea if this is the case on a recent episode alex said get ready for bad news about me

to come out yeah he'd been building this up yeah and i think it's within the realm of possible that alex was one of the people that wolf gang might have sent this information to i don't know if that's true that's a pure speculation on my part right right but it seems to me within the realm of possibility that alex might have known that posner or i'm sorry that wolf gang might be getting arrested yeah i think it's i he's connected to a lot of even even if he wasn't one of the people who wolf gang contacted it's possible that wolf gang contacted somebody else who knows alex and told alex yeah like there's there is a possibility that he was aware of this and he knew that when wolf gang helbig gets arrested his name is going to be

brought into it yeah so i kind of thought that maybe alex would touch on this he doesn't he doesn't mention it at all on the 28th there's no mention or discussion of it at all that sounds right so we'll have to wait and see if it ever enters the the info wars canon but for now it does not okay steve's done alex finishes up the show and here he is being a dumb asshole i'm going up in a helicopter a little while to a live feed a show folks are as dangerous as they're saying that i'm going to be back in studio later but powerful broadcast today great job crew great job crew so what mother fucker what he's doing he goes out on a fucking kobe yeah he's gonna go in film a special report where he's in a helicopter because hey look oh you know there's a lot of

you know a lot of people with positions on kobe and without getting into any of that what i would say is the voice that really we need to hear and the voice that no one is bringing to the table is the person who's defensive about helicopter safety i that is a real i fucked up when i was reading the coverage of this what i should have been reading about was whether or not people were more afraid of helicopters because of it right that's if there's one thing i know about this kobe situation it is that people are clamoring out for takes on helicopter safety dan it's such a bizarre thing for him to it is the weirdest thing it's super bizarre but it is sort of a way for him to skirt any kind of like overtly distasteful kind of things about like

kobe's passing yeah and at the same time he can get attention i guess yeah it seems to me like a really cowardly way to still try and capitalize on the celebrities yeah yeah yeah that is exactly what it is yeah and it is a it is something that should have been shot down at the pitch meeting very quickly no way hey what's our take on this whole kobe thing put you up in a helicopter helicopter good work love it yeah so i i think that that should be illustrative of the the sort of work that he's doing what you see throughout this episode very consistently is trying to raise the temperature of people's feelings surrounding the coronavirus and that transmute that into sales largely about food the food buckets are like primary on this episode but also the pills you

see that sure sure you see that this is empty emptier than than at least it was a long time ago yeah this is really really nothing it's it's it's grim but i i think that like i might have not really even been super interested in doing this episode except for the fact that wolfgang how big got arrested and alex can't bring himself to even talk about yeah yeah and then steve and his crazy that's wild yeah he was the first person with yeah i still can't believe he said that out loud i have a hard time believing that i genuinely like on a very visceral level i am resisting believing that a human being said that that sort of thing is absolutely worth it in the same way that edges return makes it makes it all worthwhile a pay-per-view worthwhile

steve's declaration that's the edges return of this episode so oh man i'll tell you who had the first outbreak of i'll tell you who that was it was me dan and i directed the military to stop ebola great patient and doctor all in one great steve great jesus christ anyway we will be back but until then jordan we have a website we do have a website it is knowledgefight.com yep we are also on twitter we are on twitter it's at knowledge underscore fight and at go to bed jordan we're also on facebook we are on facebook and if you would like to listen to the show go to our tunes or podcast apps rate leave a review donate do the whole thing it'd be great yeah we'll be back but until then i'm neo i'm leo i'm dzx clark i am the juiciest fish oil andy and chansas you're

on the air thanks for holding so alex i'm a first name caller i'm a huge fan i love your work i love you