Knowledge Fight - #397: February 7-8, 2020

Episode Date: February 10, 2020

Today, Dan and Jordan witness Alex Jones' theories about the coronavirus mutate into suspicions of race-specific bioweapons and false flags. Also, Alex remains very fixated with Trump's use of swearing in a speech.

I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys knowledge I'm a huge fan and love your work knowledge fight knowledge fight dot com I love you. Hey everybody. Welcome back to knowledge fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes like to sit around your knowledge of averages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Indeed we are Dan Jordan Dan Jordan. Quick question. Sure. Have you ever been submerged in a body of water fully clothed yeah on purpose or by being pushed of or the like I mean probably I know that like it would probably it would only stick out to me in terms of like if I was pushed into something right I mean like it would be yeah some bullying incident

or or like if you had a party and all of you all of your and your friends jumped into the river I really don't think that that is an uncommon thing in my life. I can't think of like specific things but like swimming in clothes and you've jumped into too many. Yeah it doesn't it. The reason I'm having a tough time with the question is because it's happened so many times. Why is this weird. We go to we go to the swim and hole and yeah I know that I sound like I'm being all like oh yeah Tom Sawyer right. I'm not there were places that we had that we we would go have some booze smoke some we sure sure jump in the water but I guess one so there was a time that there was like a little creek type maybe you in a lake it's not a like it was not a like

pond yeah little pond not too far away from my house and you know whenever it would become winter we would go out and like try and play on the ice and such. I remember one year I did fall in through the ice no shit and that was terrifying that is a fucking nightmare of mine. I was in I mean it's not a gigantic pond. It wasn't like really deep like it wasn't a situation like one of those things you see in movies or someone falls through the ice and they can't find the hole yeah yeah yeah no that's my nightmare that that is a nightmare whenever people you can see them through the ice and they've got their hands on there and they're like I don't know where to go. That was a terrible situation. Oh God I just fell in into freezing water yeah so my concern

was far more like I'm going to get hypothermia right right right of course I was able to get out of the water yeah but it was terrifying. I guess that's the only like what time that really sticks out of being in water in my clothes. Yeah that sounds like the horrifying experience that should stick out yeah yeah I mean I was I was a young man to you know you're just like well I'm going to lose my my toes now yeah that'll stick with you yeah anyway I don't think it's weird to be in bodies of water with your clothes on like Jordan seems to because he's a he's a liberal city elite hates the out of doors scared of the dark but I do know a lot about Alex Jones and I don't know anything about either right so today Jordan we had an interesting

episode to go over we are sticking in the present day we're going over February 7th 2020 I'm Dan this is 2020 damn it that's Friday's episode and then we're also going over a special episode that Alex put out on Saturday very uncommon okay for him by usually only has shows Monday through Friday and then a Sunday episode this week he decided fucking we got a double down see on our hands got to do a Saturday episode I assume that means he needed to sell more food you bet okay so there'll be a bit of coronavirus sure because that's what Alex is going through today but I believe that this is still worth talking about because there is an evolution I think that much like viruses evolve and mutate sure Alex's coverage of the Wuhan coronavirus situation

is changing in front of our eyes okay and it takes a very severe step got on Friday's episode all right so he's a he's David Dukovny or Orlando Jones in this version of evolution it's it's not good but what he's doing is not good much like the movie evolution okay start David Dukovny and Orlando Jones um we're going to get down to business on this but before we do Jordan we're going to take a moment to say thank you to some folks who have signed up and are supporting the show so first Emmy thank you so much you are now a policy wonk I'm a policy wonk thank you very much Emmy thank you Emmy next Mason thank you so much you're now a policy wonk I'm a policy wonk thanks mason thanks mason next devin DEVIN

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is like you are there listening you're thinking hey I enjoy this show I'd like to support with these gents do you can do that by going to our website knowledge fight calm clicking the button says support the show we would appreciate it be very helpful so Jordan today like I said February 7th and 8th 2020 it's going to be interesting here is an out of context drop from today's show very few people crap in the pool unless they're babies fair enough hmm I'm going to need some hard numbers on that he does not have a study I will not have a study to back him up you need to cite a source

on that I will say that that's about the most real thing that he says so or at least most reasonable to assume yeah yeah fairest thing so we start here on the 7th and Alex has an announcement and I got pretty excited about this ladies and gentlemen we are broadcasting worldwide on this Friday transmission and we have a very special guest joining us but I'm going to go to rebroadcast for a little while information I got to work on and then I'm going to come back with all this breaking news and information today okay and I have Dr. Francis Boyle creator of the bio weapons access coronavirus is biological warfare weapon

and he's got in-depth intel that's breaking that no one else has and you know this type of person has a lot of big contacts at the united nations and worldwide he was also the Milosevic's lawyer what he was what people he's connected to wait hold on what what wait hold on what no no no no no what you can trust him he was slobid on Milosevic's lawyer hold up you know hold up an important point here that Alex really should clarify is that Francis Boyle was not slobid on Milosevic's lawyer that would be a fucking weird credential for a bio weapons expert considering the fact that Milosevic was an authoritarian ruler who was tried at the Hague for violating the Geneva

convention yeah Roger Stone was his lawyer it sure would be strange for Alex to be bragging about one of his guests credentials by saying he had defended the first sitting world leader to ever be charged with war crimes right right Boyle was not Milosevic's lawyer but Alex doesn't care about the details in reality Boyle he did file charges to the international court of justice accusing Serbia under Milosevic of committing genocide against the Bosnian Muslim population while it's not up for discussion whether or not a genocide took place in the Bosnian war it had not been decided in a court if Serbia and Milosevic had directly or indirectly been responsible for those crimes that trial resulted in the determination that Serbia was not directly

or indirectly involved in the genocide but that they were responsible for not doing they were responsible in the sense that they didn't do what they needed to have done to prevent it sure whatever you're feeling about that result of the trial Francis Boyle was not a lawyer making arguments in that case he was just the person who drafted the filing that led to the opening of that case gotcha Alex saying that Francis Boyle was slobid on Milosevic's lawyer is a deeply troubling slip up and his seeming knowledge base not only does Alex not realize that Boyle you know was involved in trying to get Milosevic charged with genocide he doesn't seem to know that saying someone was Milosevic's lawyer would not be a great thing for them to have on their resume

everyone deserves a fair defense stand that's in the constitution totally totally except for slobid on fucking Milosevic he does not get a fair to Alex doesn't seem to be aware that slobid on Milosevic is one of the modern era's big villains and that seems to me to be a little worried that is a trouble so Francis Boyle has been a lawyer representing a few groups in the past however you know chow chesk you mal you know all the heavy hitters Alex could have brought those things up like for instance he's been advisor for the hawaiian independence groups for years which Alex could possibly bring up but he probably wouldn't want to do that since it involves people who don't think America is so great and don't want to be a part of it i don't

think he wants hawaii to have independence doesn't seem like it he wants more hawaii yeah exactly or Alex would bring up the fact that Boyle has been an advisor for the palestinian authority but he probably wouldn't want to do that since Alex hates palestinians in the interest of being fully clear i sport palestinian rights but i don't think i necessarily agree with Boyle's position which seems to be in favor of the destruction of israel right and he has also called it jewistan in the past so i think he might be a little bit off of what i uh agree with see that's what that's where you get to that full circle situation where it's like somebody's so anti-semitic they're accidentally doing something that's helpful for all the wrong reasons i'm not

entirely sure exactly what his deal is there are a lot of people who have some questions so i'll say that if you look into it well melosevic couldn't even afford him so who knows in january 2018 fox 55 out of champagne illinois ran a story about how for the 10th year in the row in a row Boyle was trying to get st patrick's day celebrations cancelled because of concern the kids were going to get drunk and commit crimes he wanted bars and liquor stores to be banned from offering drink specials or advertising for the event which seems like alex might say it would have a chilling effect on free speech yeah he also outlawed dancing in champagne very close dude very close doesn't want people getting drunk on st patrick's day as recently as a month ago Boyle was making

appearances on podcasts arguing that trump needs to be impeached primarily for his complicity with saudi arabia and their atrocities in yemen alex probably doesn't want to bring that up but to be fair also Boyle is called for every president since at least clinton to be impeached so that i don't think is that wrong then i that's one of the ones where i think i might be fine and that's where we get into something that's really tough and that is that francis boyle is a bit of a complicated figure from a political perspective he definitely has some real entries in his resume mostly ending about 15 years ago he has some positions that i think i can get down with like hawaiian independence but he also seems to really disproportionately hate israel and the way he expresses his opposition

there seems to imply feelings that are more than political in nature yeah and i don't think i can get on board with yeah i want hawaiian independence so the jews can't get it god dammit no right right whatever whatever the case about his sort of agreement on some things like hawaiian independence of palestinian rights i do not know what he is up to and i would just as soon not consider him an ally yeah to the positions that i have yeah it's too confusing yeah and whatever the case he was not malosevich's lawyer alex has no idea what he's talking about pretty much ever however i'm glad that alex is back on the show now and he has francis boyle on because now we can actually hear what arguments he has as opposed to the last time he was on because i'll insurer

interviewed him and i have no interest in listening to that so we will get to hear what francis boyle brings to the table in terms of the bio weapon argument i'm not excited no you shouldn't be it's very disappointing so alex has a new theory about the wuhan novel coronavirus right it's not good i'll i'll give you that okay i'll give you that up front here is a sort of alex fleshing it out a little bit now is this a cover for the fact that the chinese economy was imploding they lost their trade war with the u.s and major civil uprisings definitely not well let's look at the different pieces okay this coronavirus is conclusively from the sars family the communist chinese have been caught four times releasing it out of their labs doesn't sound like accidents to me

so the implication is now becoming the china released this on itself intentionally right it's a false flag we got a false flag on our hands we got a false flag baby because they've released it four times before okay so first of all it's really important to recognize how alex operates very consistently in the realm of speculation he's introduced this whole segment basically as him spitballing so there's no real need for him to come to a conclusion and even if he does eventually make definitive statements that's really just him looking at all the angles or some shit that's how he feels so he's speculating that china was a shame that they lost this trade war with trump which i'm not sure is accurate at all and to save face they've

launched a bio weapon attack on themselves that's disrupting their economy and definitely not helping on that front right on its face this makes no sense even without analysis this theory should be discounted because it's dumb as shit yeah yeah it's not just throwing the baby out with the bathwater it's never having taken a bath and just killing your baby what's a bath yeah exactly as to alex saying that china released sars four times i would call on him to prove that claim there was the mainland sars outbreak that occurred between 2002 and 2003 but since that was dealt with you know it is true that there have been reappearances of sars that however is not the same thing as saying china released it four times so let's take a look at some of those reappearances spider man

one spider man two spider man how many spider man's have there been there's been four uh oh at least it's it's predictive programming so on january fourth 2004 a man in southern china came down with sars but all indications in his case had that led experts to believe that he was infected through human animal contact which makes sense in 2017 the guardian reported on chinese researchers who had finally traced down the origin of sars to a colony of bats it was initially believed that the source was syphotcats but further research found that those cats were actually just an intermediate step between the bats and humans this same article discusses how another sars outbreak is very possible given the absence of a sars vaccine and the fact that animal human

transmission could very well happen again this is very much likely what happened with this guy in 2004 sounds right the rest of them are the product of lab accidents in 2003 in august a virology grad student in singapore was exposed to sars in a lab that he worked at but didn't end up infecting anyone else and those treated that was one reappearance in december 2003 a sars researcher was infected all of the people he had been in contact with were quarantined and none of them came down with sars an investigation found that he'd been working with hazardous materials in improper settings or not improper settings but he wasn't using proper protocol and didn't have a correct uniform like gloves and a mask sure he had behaved in ways that were

made at a high risk he wandered in with shorts and a hawaiian shirt and was like let's play around with viruses today guys maybe not jimmy buffett maybe not literally true but spiritually accurate he was not adhering to proper protocol in this lab where he was researching sars and he ended up getting it i like i like the uh i like the balls on a guy who's like working with the one of the most dangerous viruses that you can get and he's just like i mean clubs are a lot to put on today you know that's not uh china releasing sars but that would have to be one of the instances that alex is talking about absolutely so then in april 2004 the chinese ministry of health reported three cases of sars one of them leading to a death this was the result of a laboratory

researcher at the institute of virology which did research sars although this person didn't actually directly uh research sars just clearly this is where yeah they contracted the virus this researcher then infected the nurse who was attending to her as well as her mother who was there at the hospital her mother tragically passed away but the virus didn't spread further than this going over the details of these additional sars cases outside of the initial outbreak it really seems hard for me to see any proof of china intentionally releasing sars in any of them one seems like an open and shut natural case and the rest can largely be attributed to poor procedural controls and lab settings the guy in december 2003 seems to be the product

of his own negligence the guy with the hawaiian shirt as you called him not some kind of state attempted to buy right right i imagine he's played by polyshore in this situation sure yeah china in specific and east asia in general lost a ton of money during the sars outbreak an article in reuters cites a research paper putting the total at a loss of 15 billion dollars in gdp just from that outbreak if there's some kind of motive that alex is trying to suggest that involves the economy his argument is ludicrous no country would ever release a bio weapon on themselves to save face or shore up their economy yeah that's just ridiculous yeah 15 billion in your gdp of china what 20 years ago that's that's like five to ten percent of their entire gdp

wiped away i'm not entirely sure what exactly it is but it's not it's a lot yeah it's a it's a relevant amount yeah so that that theory is bullshit right i'm going to toss that into the trash bin so um alex is like trying to think about like i need experts i need experts to talk to i got frances boil coming up he's gonna tell me about bio weapons right but what about people who know things about china he doesn't know any of them well he knows one guy oh no in fact i forget his name who's that famous human rights activist that got the china opened at us adoptions and he worked with the cia and we've had him when he lives in canada he's really smart i would think what is his name and i can't remember guys get him back on immediately with what he can remember who i'm

talking about call call and tell us we don't need to wait for the callers i remember who that is it's jim garrow we've talked about him a bit in the past he's the guy who runs that operation called pink pagoda where which he claims is helping arrange adoptions of chinese children he was the one who claimed that he was stealing and human trafficking children and he was doing it proudly well i mean yes if he's not making it all up which he most almost certainly is yes because journalists and researchers who have tried to corroborate anything he says about his adoption operations have come up completely empty and when they've tried to ask him for any kind of evidence to prove his claims he's like no for the safety of people i will not prove anything excuse me sir

where exactly are the thousands of children that you have taken from china thousands of children that you have claimed yeah yeah it's it seems like the more likely thing is that he's scamming yeah anyway he was arrested in 2014 for having an illegal gun which he claimed wasn't his he cure currently now like he has a bunch of profiles up promoting himself to get acting gigs so i assume that if alex calls he'll be showing back i imagine so interestingly jim's acting bio seems to not mention any of his extravagant adventures like saving everybody in china has he filmed a lot of movies in china dano do they no also his bio doesn't seem to mention the time that obama tried to kill him or the claim that he was in the cia for 45 years right that would be

some good experience to put on your acting resume you know you play that you can get jobs playing the experience cia guy all day quote having meddled away my life in various settings i've come to the conclusion that enjoying all that is brought to you as part of growing up as a foreigner coming in from scotland i was open to the new world in all of its experiences i did some degrees became a teacher principal college president teachers college principal and found myself in china opening schools and bringing students back to north america then i did a small commercial for a resort in china and loved the experience so that's his bio i refuse to his acting web i refuse to accept that take that down i want to cease and desist on that jim garo is a complete con man but he's someone

alex looks at as a credible source to base his positions on this is just a pathetic level of non vetting honestly i hope alex does have him back on because based on his past record jim garo is the sort of hard swinging crazy dude that i need to find love for the game again yeah yeah his claims are big yeah pretty fun it's it's between him and you know if if zigami weren't such a heavy weight in the field i think he would be at least number two behind tv he doesn't like leo doesn't seem to know much about china though he's not somebody that alex you get into this season true but i feel like once you orchestrate nine eleven you're you're up in the pantheon right it's true of hard swinging claims unfortunately alex is actually thinking of a different guest

but ascribing pieces of jim garo's resume to him alex later comes up with this dude's name it's steven mosher we've talked about him a bit in the past too he was the guy who was an anthropological research student in 1979 when he went to china to do a cultural study he published an article describing the chinese government's practice of forcing women to get abortions which ultimately led to him getting expelled from his phd program at stanford people like alex will likely say that he was expelled because he dared criticize china but the reality is that he published photos and identifying information about the women who were his informants which is a clear breach of ethics that put these women's lives at risk i don't want to put this too bluntly but it's a very serious

decision when a school kicks out a phd candidate that's not the same thing as getting kicked out of your undergrad program for plagiarism or partying too hard like universities make a great investment in the people they choose to accept for phd consideration and i know from conversations with doctoral advisors at high-profile colleges read my dad that typically schools do whatever they can to not kick out phd candidates in the case of mosher the board voted to expel him 11 to zero oh mosher tried to appeal his expulsion but stanford stood firm and explained some of the reasons they were upholding his dismissal one of them was regarding a tape his ex-wife had given them where he bragged about lying about having top secret clearance in order to pretend to be a

courier to get a free flight from california to japan why do people put it to everybody's everybody's recording everybody's always recording he's a fraud guy even quiet the school also had hired a private detective who had determined that mosher had fabricated at least one sales receipt for a camera that he had purchased for his work which is suspicious as stanford's then president donald kennedy described it he seemed to have a quote pattern of behavior towards those uh you deal with the school was right to expel him you just can't take the risk of being associated with someone who would operate that way yeah see like multiple instances of like real disingenuous practices you just like this puts your work at question you can't you can't do that yeah yeah

since then he's basically written a bunch of books about how evil china is along the way in 1996 he founded the population research institute which portrays itself as a group trying to debunk the lives of overpopulation but it's actually just a pro-life advocacy group the institute really is just a catholic anti-contraception anti-abortion front that mosher took over in 1996 when paul marks a catholic priest who is an early leader in the pro-life movement stepped down in the ensuing years to the present day they branched off into the predictable hard right talking points like denying climate change being anti-lgbtq rights of course they're very uh untransparent about where their funding comes from because of course they are but it's known that between 1999 and 2002

they received at least 130 thousand dollars from the linden harry bradley foundation this is without a doubt a small chunk of the right-wing billionaire money that's coming into that institute in order for them to push their nonsense yeah alex was absolutely thinking of jim caro uh based on all the details that he gave garo pretends he was in the cia he pretends he was involved in chinese adoptions and he lives in canada none of these things apply to mosher alex legitimately can't keep any of his guests nonsense backstories straight because they're all bullshit yeah they're all they're all just fabricated he can't remember to the point where i bet if he gave mosher's credits as that mosher would be like oh shit did i make those lies oh god am i yeah i totally did all that

stuff alex i'm sure he lives in canada that one would be oh yeah yeah that's true that one's tough to get around so you heard at the beginning of the show alex was saying like i gotta go off air for a little bit to get my notes right yeah which is like a special reporter too but i don't i don't know if he actually got anything right but he is weird at the beginning of the episode coming to work an hour early it would help yeah he were tuning in and saying what what's jones doing right now he's saying interesting things because all over the map i am brainstorming right now on air not good have a pre-show meeting because what happens is i get set and i have my line of thought and then it's my fault i get easily distracted happens at the very start of the show

and then i've got to reset so let me just do that as best i can here right now all that is is i don't prepare anything i'd just sort of wing in it yeah that's all he's saying that's basically what if i seem distracted it's because i'm trying to wing it i am easily confused yeah so alex's big take on the the china situation is so far we've seen he's decided it's a bio weapon the china released on itself most likely yes and one of the reasons he thinks of this is because he's never seen such a reaction to an outbreak he expresses that really he expresses that in this next clip and i think it's just so stupid we can talk all day about how bad's it going to be what are they covering up why the giant response but the media saying it's no big deal at the same

time why the unified global response which you've never seen before at least i haven't correct me if i'm wrong with a case example okay so what alex is saying is completely insane and means nothing is he really suggesting that there hasn't been instances of outbreaks being met with international cooperation before because that's a really dumb thing to say sovereign nations solve their problems by themselves dan he wants a case example okay sars mers ibola zika all were handled with international efforts i don't understand what does he mean by unified global response he just throws nobody's rooting for sars this time he just throws terms around and then stakes idiotic claims on them that's like half of his skill as a broadcaster so back then chili was

all in for sars chili was rooting for sars the whole time just to be just be different exactly this is the first time the world is united and saying viruses are bad so i'm going to tell you a little bit about the 2002 2003 sars outbreak and then you could tell me if you think that this is a unified global response on november 16th 2002 china reports the first case of atypical pneumonia more cases pop up and then by march 2003 the world health organization issues a global alert which puts into motion a motion and international response within two days the cdc is established an emergency operation center here in the united states and three days after that an international network of 11 labs start working in conjunction to determine the cause of the outbreak and figure

out its gno by july 5th the world health organization declares the outbreak contained with no local transmissions within the virus's incubation period a piece in the bulletin of the world health organization discusses the lessons that were learned in the outbreak by brian doberstein the director of the division for combating communicable diseases for the world health organization's regional office of the western pacific here is one of his main takeaways quote what was gratifying was that during the sars outbreak in 2003 there was unprecedented collaboration among scientists and laboratories around the world to work together to identify the causative agent map its genome and develop reliable diagnostic tests even in the face of

chili's resistance there was openness and willingness to share critical scientific information promptly as a result the virus was identified and its genome mapped within weeks of the outbreak the scientific world was shown at its best that sure is shit sounds to me like a unified global response being discussed that article in the bulletin literally ends with this line quote no man is an island and no country can fight a global public health threat alone every single case of a public health emergency will ultimately require a unified global response putting it bluntly alex is just talking complete shit he's just making stuff up and what he's saying doesn't mean anything i look governments do so much evil shit why can't for once we all root

for the international coalition of people stopping viruses this is the one thing where can't we all be like fuck yeah the cdc and the who are kicking the ass why can't we just do that for one thing why does alex have to be a dick about everything i'm not entirely sure if i could pinpoint it to one reason but i think it might be a lot yeah constellation of things there and what oh god i don't even i didn't want to play you this clip so alex has decided that this is a false flag attack the china did on themselves right and now it evolves even further how alex is suggesting now that it's a race specific bio weapon meant to just attack the chinese that the chinese are doing to themselves and along the way all chinese people are never might along the way i'm not even

going to bother i'm not even going to start there along the way he might reveal himself to be a bit of a race racial science guy oh no but it's serious and they're covering up what's really going on and it's just incredible to me that it's so obviously a bio weapon and that it's so obviously race specific on record for chinese men i mean it's so specific the chinese genome is so close only other group maybe as closely related for large population is koreans what what they're just what taylor made for a race specific bio weapon because you don't want to use one what a race specific bio weapon that say kills a mongrel which we think it was a bad term it's a good term you know for genetically being able to fend off against things everybody knows that pure breeds

eat diseases easier um and so look at british royalty and people they're very sickly they're very mentally ill i'm not knocking chinese folks because they're real smart and got some great attributes but on average there's problems with being inbred and just as a genome the chinese are very similar i guess my first response to that clip would be like uh hey got a citation on any of that holy shit man simply put i refuse to engage with that like i'm not even down for it because it's not based on anything and it's deeply racist even if you ignore the part where he's talking about mongrels and how chinese people are inbred what underlies alex's position here is there a belief that there's something genetically distinct about people of different races

which is to say that there's some gene or allele that makes a chinese person chinese and i guess he's somehow you know he's somehow proven that this corona virus is genetically engineered to specifically target people with that chinese gene this is completely fucked up and it's an instance where i'm just going to say i reject your premise and i'm not even going to dignify this with any sort of discussion unreal like it's just unreal many many many studies have been done about in group out group sort of genetic diversity yeah oftentimes you have more genetically in common with people who are not part of your ancestral lineage than with people who are within your quota what we understand as a racial group it's uh this is really fucking

messed up stuff yeah if he keeps talking like that he's going to be a congressman from kansas i believe that's what you get whenever you get that racist i think you get that so alex goes further down this road it's just bad man this is bad stuff because he goes further down that road oh yeah that that road you can go further down i thought we had reached the end of that road oh god just as a gene on the chinese are very similar so they're perfect to hit with a bio weapon because you can kill them off and not hurt your own people they're asking for it what does he mean by saying that they're asking for it wait so the chinese government is releasing a race specific bio weapon that targets only chinese men dan do you know what one thing most of the chinese government

has in common with itself man well look here's the issue alex is kind of wishy washy throughout whether or not like china did this to themselves as a false flag sure sure that one's that one's negotiable yeah but he's now leaning pretty hard into this being a race specific bio weapon of course and because all chinese people are so similar to each right which they chose to do they're asking for it i don't even know man i they chose to have a massive geographical location with many different subgroups and cultures within it and yet still be genetically similar like does how dare they in that clip alex says that the chinese are perfect with a bio weapon because you can kill them off while not hurting your own people and i think that what's important to recognize here is that alex

thinks very racially he thinks very much in terms of people of different ethnic groups not being quote his people and i find that mentality to be racist at its core also in this scenario who is it that's deploying this bio weapon because i like i we've talked about i thought he said he was saying that chinese did it because they want to lower the population or save face in the trade war or whatever but now it's about eliminating the chinese without risking any non chinese losses which is incompatible with the previous thought it kind of all over the place yeah yeah that's incoherent i'm guessing he's you know saying it's the globalists but he believes that the globalists are in bed with china and want china to take over the world so i don't see the motive here

nothing he's saying makes any sense it's complete trash but beneath it is a framework of a very very racist it's an incredibly racist line of thought to even entertain now i mean hey look because here's because here's the other underlying truth there is that you don't think i mean he he must think that skin color means complete genetic breaks white people are completely genetically separate from black people from chinese people from all of those different things that's what i was trying to get at it the the last clip yes yes that is what he that's just that's just bonkers that's it because that's because that's when you that's when i fucking he's he's into this like chimpanzees are 97 percent of the same genetic material as a

as a homo sapiens on a level of shit i mean where there are literal some people are homo sapiens and then some people are fucking chinese in his mind it's tough to figure out exactly what he believes because he's not really expressing it right the little hints that he gives and the little indications lead you to think like oh oh oh no that's that is the if not out and out the building block of a race superiority genetic superiority argument yeah generally is a piece of it yeah so the problem i think comes down with i mean all of it but one well so much one problem is like hey releasing a biological weapon is a big old war crime i i mean yeah but at these days war crimes are within the eye of the poor person getting murdered

but dude it's important to nail down who's doing this right i was just suggesting it's a bio weapon release we better right who it is because it's a big crime but it turns out in some situations maybe it's not a crime this is perfectly made for chinese and it doesn't just do that if you were morally gonna hit a group that was attacking you morally you would only hit them with something that goes after military age men and that's what they're admitting it's young men no predominantly this is wiping out so specifically targeted so specifically made now do you think that just fell out of the sky first i need to get this taken care of right off the bat under no circumstances is it ethical to deploy a bio weapon against a civilian population regardless of if it attacks

young men regardless if you feel like they're attacking you this is very clear and international law just possessing something that could be a biological weapon if not explicitly for legitimate research purposes could get you charged with a war crime what alex is suggesting is uh is that it's he's saying this is ethical it would be a massive international scandal he's this is a super super fucked up thing that he seems to be okay with and i think he kind of sounds like a nazi not even not even like he's talking about something even deeper than that ethical concept he's talking about morals like god gives you the right so long as you only kill military aged men to murder people who aren't even combatants i mean this is an insane argument and unacceptable on any level

also i have no idea where alex is getting this information that it's mostly military aged men who are dying from the corona virus like most diseases according to a report in the guardian from february first they had reviewed demographic information that had been released about people who had died and naturally you'd expect most of them to be people who are elderly or have pre-existing conditions they mostly were but there were five outliers people aged 36 50 53 55 and 58 that as far as i can tell is not this thing mostly hitting military aged men i don't know what alex is talking about and i would really need him to cite his sources which he won't do because he doesn't have one he's just trying to find ways to feel good about the concept of

chinese people dying the new york times published an article with updated information on february seventh discussing details about 138 cases that they had reviewed one of these cases i'm sorry of these cases the median age of the person who got the virus was 56 and the median age of someone who got it and needed intensive care was 66 they found that 54 percent of the cases in their sample were men though they did point out that other reports of different cases claimed a higher percentage of men for instance lancet published a report about 13 patients in beijing which had a median age of 34 and 77 percent of them were men those are both pretty outside the expected range of a broader distribution but considering it's a sample of 13 people it's not necessarily

meant to be interpreted as representative of the wider population see that's where we get back to that 77 percent thing where you're like you're fooled by 77 percent you're like well at the very least that means 77 out of 100 right and instead it's eight dudes i think it was 10 but yeah your point stands yeah i i get what you're saying well it it's it's why these things are really important for people to understand like you have to get context for numbers because alex could just point to this at 77 percent of me it's so easy 13 people in beijing very specifically like it's not a representative sample and in that situation if it's only 13 uh young men in in beijing that means that they're almost certainly people who travel around a lot making them far more

likely to be exposed to this and it's it's not to say that all of them were young but the median age was 34 yeah so that means there were more younger people represented than you would expect or it means there were five one year olds but also none of those patients died or had severe complications it wouldn't be too surprising if there were a lot of people across all age groups who get the virus much like people of all ages are susceptible to catching the flu it's a matter of it being far more serious for older people and people with pre-existing health conditions to put them a greater risk anyway the bottom line is that uh i think alex is just making all this up because he's fantasy role playing but there's something deeply disturbing

about this new wrinkle to his language who does he think china was attacking who does he he's suggesting that someone has the moral right to use a bio weapon against chinese military aged men because of something i guess what is he doing i have no idea i that's the these guys are so that's why when you hear or when you read about all of the times where trump has just been like well why don't we nukem right and you're like that's the thinking that these people have that idea that total war makes sense like they stopped reading about military strategy whenever they read that some people burned crops and that's how they won the war and they were like yeah hooray let's starve the bore i mean it's it's fucked up yeah when you have alex

making rationalizations for the concept of deploying a biological weapon like even in a hypothetical scenario you're way past yeah anything acceptable so alex talks a little bit in this next clip suggesting the possibility that we did it the united states did this as an attack on chinese military aged men because china is somehow attacking us that has taken a turn i told you that is a turn i told you drastic evolution that is a turn now do you think that just fell out of the sky no and the scientists look at it the indian top scientists everybody else is looking at saying the same thing that is their funding pool if they say it that's why the us and china and others who have the genome uh the rna sequence of the virus will

not send it out people like why won't you send it out so we can identify because when you get it you go my god an oak tree is organic a 57 Chevy's man made this is a 57 Chevy it's made now the big question is did the united states launch this against china as a reaction in the war because china has been secretly attacking us and pulling a bunch of stuff what's what else i think i have the answer on the other side so we don't get to know if alex thinks it was us who did this because of the secret war wow wow i think we have reached the critical mass of bullshit yeah that one alex is straight up suggesting that it's a possibility that the u.s spread the corona virus as a bio weapon because china has been attacking us just after saying it would be

ethically right to do that obviously the united states didn't do that but alex is pretending that we might have and justifying it i know that this is a bit of a stretch but alex hates somalia so let's say one day trump decides that somalia is our enemy and they've been attacking us so he uses a biological weapon against them according to what alex is saying right now it seems like he would have to be okay with it he's normalizing the idea of using bio weapons on civilians in peacetime all you have to do is pretend their country is attacking you this is so deeply disturbed he needs to get off air like i can't i cannot stress this yeah no whenever you're saying that not even not even that like when you're saying both china and the

united states have probably also released this at the same time maybe to kill people that you wouldn't he's very unspecific about what he's actually suggesting but underneath it is a normalization of the concept of using biological agents against civilians yeah like i that is a point at like to which the overton window cannot go yeah you cannot like alex is the normal the deep state needs to be rooted out like yeah right this is really bad for normalizing this kind of conversation but what he what he's trying to make acceptable to talk about now yeah is atrocities i yeah and not not just that but another thing underlying it is that there is no such thing as peacetime because everyone is always secretly always with oceania always we've always always

been if not openly then secretly at war so it doesn't matter if we declare war or not we have already been at war yeah i mean like the shit he's been doing where he's been trying to make infomercials out of a public health health emergency that's bad yeah but it's kind of what you expect from the school of con man he comes from this is something else altogether just the other day you saying that trump should outlaw the democratic party and now he is here he is warming up to the idea of using race specific bio weapons on civilians i really don't know if he knows what he's saying anymore but i also really don't care it doesn't get better from here this is this is a path downward that we're on that i couldn't even predict this kind of thing i boo boo man i i you

know i was thinking the other day i was literally thinking so many people who like well when you hit bottom there's nowhere to go but up and i was like or there's no bottom and i was thinking i've been thinking oh there's just no bottom it's just always it's just gonna keep going it's just going to keep going and even this dan surprised me that you can go this low right i've been telling myself there's no bottom i didn't even know this was available on the bottom yep it's there wow also that indian scientist who wrote the non peer reviewed paper that he retracted after getting feedback from fellow scientists was not a top scientist top alex is just making that up to make that retracted paper seem more credible which it's not no one else except right wing

conspiracy blogs are saying the same thing that scientists said i guess mike adams is but his website is an extremely right wing conspiracy blog so he doesn't get to count as other scientists factcheck.org actually did talk to other scientists about that paper christian anderson the director of infectious disease genomics at the scripts research trans uh translational institute told them that the analyses in the paper were quote completely wrong anderson said there was a quote misunderstanding of how to perform these type of analyses and said that they were just cherry picking data timothy shehan the virologist at the university of north carolina at chapel hill told them that if you look at the genome there are zero signs of human tampering he said that uh

because despite what alex keeps saying on his show it's not like no one has the genome of it they did send it out yeah but you can't trust him he's only 250th ranked scientist in uh in north carolina that doesn't even get you in the atp tour dan another person who studied the virus trevor bedford a computational biologist at the fred hutchinson cancer research center in seattle actually recreated what the retracted study was attempting to analyze he found that the things that they were claiming to be inserts in the rna are actually just mistakes and interpretation made by the indian researchers what he what was claimed to be things added into the rna were clearly segments of material that are present in closely related sars like viruses he tweeted out

all of his materials too so if alex is so desperate to get his hands on it it's been there on twitter for at least a week alex probably didn't see that though because he's been kicked off twitter yeah well you know he's not really uh walking around in uh info spheres that include information yeah so alex is dumb all this is bullshit but he's saying that we're in a secret war with china and i here's where he fleshes that out a little bit great i'm not going to give the u.s. government a pass and say for sure that somebody in the deep state on the american team hidden piffed at enough fentanyl being shipped in every couple months to kill the entire world population you're like that's what shipped into the u.s. yes enough to kill the whole world that means a lot

of it's not even getting delivered to the drug addicts there's just so much of it that one shipment they caught coming in from mexico would kill 10.6 million people how's aris and other newspapers said 11 billion it was made of mosquitos that was one shipment that would kill 11 million people if they all took an overdose dose that's why you see homeless everywhere laying out asleep during the day asleep at night they're not asleep they're passed out on fentanyl so is this how the united state says uh we told you to stop that here here's a race specific weapon that kills military age men you want to kill teenagers boys girls white people black people ispanics asians old young will just hit you with a

race specific bio weapon that i've told you that's the wars of the future i don't think trump would do that whoo what a relief he doesn't think trump would do that well fucking now i do i think alex would do it yeah i i don't i don't caught into this i don't i don't appreciate that i i'm man that's such a terrifying thing to hear that alex thinks that fentanyl coming into the country a fitting response might be to release a race specific bio weapon on civilians yes yes that is a scary thing to hear so it's an important to question question to ask in the midst of this horrific shit that alex is spewing this important question is are race specific bio weapons real no the answer is no and it doesn't seem likely that they will

be even in the near future the basic reason uh this is the case is that the alleles and genes that contribute to what we call race it's not just one gene there are a fuck ton of genes and sequences that make up each person's individual genome and there's a whole lot of overlap between different groups there isn't just a one-to-one relationship between genes and race so the view i've seen thrown around is that you could probably make some kind of an agent that slightly affects a certain group more than another but it wouldn't be a pronounced difference it would be in the measure of a couple percentage points yeah and it wouldn't be it wouldn't be effective another reason why most evil villains probably would never decide to deploy these hypothetical

race specific bio weapons is that a common feature of viruses is that once they begin to be passed around at human hosts they mutate there wouldn't be like an effective way to predict if a race specificness of a weapon you create would even last one transmission cycle in the wider population it's just not a good plan even from a evil logistic standpoint no okay so if there's one thing i know every biologist says it's that as long as you have a sample of say one or two thousand people you can correctly assume what biological circumstances will arise from seven billion people experiencing something right that's just true that humans are so similar that you never wild and massive variations occur for no reason it's bullshit yeah alex has zero evidence that

race specific bio weapons even exist when he's pressed to the wall and has to cite proof of their existence the two things he brings up are the project for a new american century document and that 1997 speech that secretary of defense william cohen gave in both of these instances alex's primary sources are people trying to justify greater defense spending from the u.s government and race specific bio weapons are a hypothetical threat that they bring up to illustrate the kinds of dangers we may be protecting ourselves from one day neither of these sources prove the existence of these sorts of weapon nor does anything else alex can point to they are examples of people trying to get more money into the defense budget if it weren't a british show i would say he

watched utopia which is uh basically it's a tv show about a race specific bio weapon being maybe he did i don't know and it's it's like these these people find a graphic novel that reveals a massive conspiracy to release a race specific bio weapon to depopulate the earth it's almost like bbc it could be so i don't think alex is good on sources here i think yes a lot of a lot of bad bullshit going around but it turns out there was one source i didn't consider the kkk seven years old and they visited us on christmas and i remember my grandfather going they want us to have a nuclear war the the the chinese dictator whoever it was after malade says he wants us to nuke them because they want to get rid of their population this is the only

group in the world that wants to get rid of them that's why they fit into this world government scheme to reduce the population and i'm telling you they'll release a race specific weapon and blaming on us that's the plan and all and i've told these stories before on air years ago but you know about a visionary man my my mom's dad was smart i'd like to apologize i didn't know that alex's grandpa yelled at him when he was seven i didn't know that he had that kind of high level source i mean when an old man screams at you about how the government is desiring of a nuclear war and that eventually they will release a race based bio weapon you know it's true dan i didn't realize i i do all this like looking into alex's sources i didn't

realize an old man yelled at him when he was seven did you not did you not email his grandfather for comment i did that is basic journalistic ethics dan his grandpa could be old man house phone we don't know that that'd be fun so that would be a fun twist for our the end of our series who is just revealing that in a good bit here you know like a relief i mean alex is already insinuated he doesn't think trump would do the race specific bio weapon but it is on the table thankfully he doubles down on that doesn't think that the u.s is behind this good but i mean this is just ridiculous that looks like something the u.s would launch if you're gonna be military and you're being hit with fentanyl and millions of died here and china won't stop it will you hit

million rich men and it messes up their economy and but we're not going to operate like that trump can't even make a phone call to the ukraine saying yeah or get a phone call great fight corruption which is us law if we give them money they've got to agree to that trump is completely paralyzed other than promoting america and being able to get some good policies in he can't do like what and trump would never sit there fucking name one much less have them have that over his head no way did some rogue agency do it i don't believe so do we have stuff on the shelf like this you better damn well believe it that's why the chai com stole it out of that canadian lamp they didn't i do not like that alex's defense seems to be that trump wouldn't do this because he

can't get away with it he would love to do it in a heartbeat but there's so many people watching him dan even make this call to ukraine without he's going to have to stay up until like four i am to get people to do his bidding without interference seems to be more of a logistics issue than a that would be a gigantic war crime all right okay maybe this is why alex was thrilled with the idea of his guest being slobodan malosevich is a lawyer dan everybody knows that god hates cowards that's the rule it's in the genesis one one genesis 101 so i mean look this is sensational this is insane this this the level of hysteria and panic yeah he's trying to build up surrounding this virus adding these new layers of it's a race specific bio weapon maybe a false flag

china's pulling on itself and you know he of course he does a lot of sales for his products and we get an update on something that is what i would describe as the opposite of a shock we're gonna break i'm gonna tell you what i'm personally doing to fortify my immune system and it's right here it's called immune gargle 15 parts per million silver but it's not regular silver they can make it a lot higher parts per million for the same price this is what's judged the best and the safest it's immune gargle this is what the pentagon as we showed you in the documents nope i had secretly uh found in their test text saying him that this is able to knock out the sars family i'm not saying it's going to do that i'm just saying it's nano silver it's high quality

and it's ingestible not just seen gargle and spit it out swallow some of it it's what i do and i love it it's sold out i told you yesterday was going to sell out before the show ended it was sold out oh i wonder i wonder why i wonder i wonder why it's sold out because you're lying about the product uh you know he he's taking these things that uh are um possibly true about the wound gel the silver wound gel and he's directly applying those claims to the immune gargle uh in this in that clip that is way beyond the the realm of acceptable and of course your products are selling out you're embarrassing embarrassing yourself with this uh this hysteric hysteric panic you're engaging in he really does he really does make more sense like he is an apocalyptic

uh preacher holding wearing one of those box signs on the corner screaming about how everybody's going to die in hell mixed with the fucking sham wow guy the yeah yeah events it's fucking yeah it's billy horrific billy now he was the oxy clean right right they both yelled a lot they they did so alex goes to break and he take comes back and he takes some calls and by this point he's kind of landed on the idea that it's a race specific bio weapon and china released it on themselves as a false flag and the united states probably could have done it if they well if they wanted to it would have been totally cool absolutely um so he takes calls and uh there he gets his first caller that he gets is a guy who believes that the us did it and he doesn't like alex's theory

much okay um we got loaded phone lines here i'm gonna go to victor in europe first he says the us released bio weapon on china and let's be clear this is a bio weapon it is man made that's confirmed it is race specific that is not confirmed why is there such a crazy response who would want this to happen who would be behind it what do you think victor so you see the way he's framing the parameters of what's up for discussion it's not up for discussion that this is a man made race specific bio weapon confirmed now did the us do it that's a good question alex we're we're going to open up the phone line alex thinks it's a false flag and this caller does not agree do you understand that they can inflict the wound on themselves to then get out of the

fact they're losing the trade war and get out of the fact that gg ping is so embarrassed and use that as a way to crack down as a police state measure does that make sense to you it's not the most likely scenario the most nice hypothesis in in game 13 years old is that china and other globalists would launch bio attacks on themselves now it's really set the precedent for political and social and medical crackdown it's not like i'm just saying this today why are you saying it's the less possible scenario see alex is defensive about this guy pushing back on his idea that china false flagged themselves with this uh this virus that indicates to me that he's not so much exploring all the angles as he is this is the position i'm going to put forth and anybody pushing back on it

i'm going to get kind of petty and me sir i don't like the way you said that my idea that i came up with literally 10 minutes ago is not the most likely scenario i thought of it 10 minutes ago that means it's confirmed right so he gets another caller who thinks that this is a chinese government psi op sure of some sort and maybe it's not even actually it's not even happening there we go it's actors that's a bingo i got a bingo dad yeah this could be a chinese communist test for social control and they've got people out scripting it you're absolutely right we have seen the left hired astroturf actual firms that are online that hire thousands for events like charlottesville we pointed out and they sue us for saying it when they advertised and hired not people to get the

woman killed that part was a stage but to have the clash most the white supremacists were hired to play the part and again nothing against gay people but you know why i've never got an acting job there's a bunch of little potbellied gay dudes and nazi outfits you know out there for the king i and you know if you real nazi showed up and i hear what you're saying god bless you maria all right when i come back i'm taking five calls in the next segment it's gonna happen it doesn't weird that he didn't bring that theory up which he seems to consistently believe whenever he's just rambling when he had richard spencer on the show he certainly didn't bring up how he believes that everyone was just a bunch of gay actors that got hired

he did not say to richard spencer's face that richard spencer you are a fucking liar and all you did was hire a bunch of potbellied quote gays right um great yeah this is uh dumb this isn't just offensive this is like get him get him out of here get him the fuck out so alex uh he's uh he doesn't take five calls and he comes back he uh is not good at taking calls at all ever that's not just today ever he gets ready because he's got francis boyle coming up yeah this guy who you know drafted this bio weapon legislation back in the late eighties and now is here comes on alex's show all the time every time there's a public health issue to say that it's a bio weapon bio weapon and alex says something really stupid you trust

people that have been around a long time that are there on record with integrity trying to figure the truth out it doesn't mean they're perfect doesn't mean i'm right all the time but we're right 97 90 percent of the time somebody else has been right a lot as dr francis boyle creator of the u.s bio weapons act he joins us coming up he's been right all the time all of been a lot of bio weapons zika ebola all of them bio weapons releases man right all the time it almost makes you think we don't even have actual diseases we just have bio weapons created by people it's true that really is kind of what they think the other day i stubbed my toe oh shit bio weapon china yep oh no that was that one was actually uh steven billar he hates you yeah

that could have been yeah so alex gets into uh reading some uh like a giving a pump up for for francis boyle and i think he gets a little out of line with his uh his bio and this is one of the leading experts in the world not just on the medical side the genome and then the RNA side but also on the geopolitical and the un sources and he said look the un knows this is a bio weapon the way alex is presenting this interview is explicitly dishonest there's literally no excuse for him to present francis boyle as a leading expert on the medical side of things because he has zero background in science this is one of the many many instances of alex being unable to stop himself from embellishing things to make his narratives less questionable to impressionable

listeners it's not enough for him to present his guest as the guy who is involved in drafting that us statute on bio weapons back in the late eighties and here's why the claims that alex is having boyle on to make are not at all relevant to that he is coming on to discuss how the corona virus is a bio weapon which has nothing to do with his actual field of expertise namely law the content of their conversation won't really be in line with what boyle has credentials to discuss so it's pretty important to make up things to add to his resume like he's a leading expert on the medical side of bio weapons when he's not at all in the world of gambling this is called a tell the fact that alex is creating this fictitious aspect of boyle's knowledge base gives him credibility in a field

that he has no involvement in and that tells you that alex is creating an illusion as opposed to reporting or doing a sincere interview no journalist operating in good faith and according to ethical standards would ever do this because it sets up the interview that's coming up on a lie which calls into question literally everything that said in that interview you would think yeah and it makes it tarnishes francis boyle from the jump because he doesn't correct alex so anyway i'm waiting for alex to be like the you know the four amino acids adenine guining thymine and china i think it's china that's the fourth amino acid probably so this next club we get a really interesting glimpse into the fact that alex recognizes and probably has pretty much all along that trump is evil kind

of an authoritarian trump does have an authoritarian stripe and that's bad and that takes the country back from globalist but that's not authoritarian i like a strong person in the constitution not a strong man nothing you say means anything that is a nonsense just that so he comes back for break and gets down to business with francis boyle and i i'm here to tell you this francis boyle interview is trash go i was i was hoping for gold but apparently it's not yeah i thought you said golem no he's uh he's not good there's no information that really comes out of this there is nothing that francis boyle has to say that is groundbreaking there is nothing that he knows uh and uh he just seems like a guy who likes info wars yeah cool so here's his main point i think that is outside

of the stuff that alex has talked about and it's troubling these bsl four facilities have i have no legitimate scientific or uh uh medical purpose at all they have one purpose and that is to research develop test use stockpile offensive biological weapons purely offensive purely offensive although they try to justify it by saying oh we're developing vaccines well that might be true alex oh so bsl four is biosecurity level four and his main argument here seems to be set up like this he believes that the corona virus is a bio weapon that was released from the wuhan biolab because he believes that all biosecurity level four labs exist to do is create offensive bio weapons although he admits in that very clip that they also do research

for vaccines they claim that's why it's okay very well maybe true oh wow legitimately stupid the levels of biosecurity a lab is subject to is related to the relative danger of the things that are studied there level one is for things that generally don't hurt people who are in good health level two is for agents that have a little more dangerous side to them and they require slightly heightened precautions like hepatitis or hiv level three is for things that could be contracted much easier and can often be transmitted in the air like SARS or yellow fever level four is the highest level because the things that would be worked with there are specifically things that can transmit as easily as level three agents but are also potentially deadly and are things for

which we have no known treatments or vaccines so in the past this would have included things like smallpox and ebola level four labs are the level that they are because of the security protocols that are required to work with those agents it has to do with like the air flow in the lab and how that's controlled how waste is handled what sorts of protective clothing and gear are required by the researchers that's what this designation means these things that's not like a ranking of labs like people who work at bsl fours aren't like ah look at those bsl ones over there a bunch of douche perks go get a real job dude they might have some sort of you know a jocular relationship i don't have frat boy scientist studying smallpox so these things that they're studying and working

within level four labs whether you like it or not francis are things that could be a gigantic threat to people in the 20th century over 300 billion people died from smallpox and if it weren't for people doing the work that is done in the conditions of level four biosecurity labs it's unlikely that it would now be eradicated francis boyle can suggest all he want without proof that these bio labs exist only to create offensive bio biological weapons but it doesn't mean anything they clearly serve an important function and without them it would basically be impossible to do the sort of work that's required to come up with treatments and preventions for diseases that could be the next plague like it's i just what are you saying doesn't make sense

it is it's it's like it's like we don't have any ability to transfer certain fears generally generationally you know like that there's a generation who was so ravaged by smallpox they would do anything and everything to help get rid of that disease and then once the disease is successfully at the very least mitigated the next generation is like you know smallpox isn't a big deal it's all bullshit that they're throwing at us we don't need to worry about this stuff and everything they tell you about now it's vaccines that are doing it and all that is like if one generation was all it took to rid the entire world of the fear of a reasonable fear it's unfortunate it's fucked up also fun fact any samples that come back to earth from

space from places that are thought to have ever possibly had habitable environments they have to be handled at biosecurity level for labs but i guess that's probably just because they're trying to make a space bio weapon not because the labs are perfectly designed to limit any possible interaction of the earth's atmosphere with completely foreign things that could be dangerous so anyway they serve a number of purposes yeah this is just bullshit yeah being spouted by a guy who has no real standing he doesn't really have any reason but he might not have any reason to know anything and it's very unlikely that he has inside information based on him in the past saying i have no inside information yeah but alex has a source he is a

source that seems contradictory to all the things alex has been saying already okay which is weird good my pentagon sources told me a week and a half ago they believe it's a leak weapon they were planning for us or others developing a vaccine for themselves but somehow they thought it was edited so it would be continuated or however it works and then it somehow mutated or it didn't work the live vaccine failed they don't know they just believe it was an offensive weapon they were developing a vaccine for that somehow got out is that that sound accurate that's correct so for this for this entire show alex has been saying that he believes that this is a false flags race specific bio weapon the attack that the chinese government pulled on themselves to save

face because trump is so great that they're being humiliated in a trade war and so they could depopulate the country all these various thoughts now alex is saying that his fake pentagon sources told them that this is a bio weapon that was being developed to be used against us that the chinese lab was creating a vaccine for that accidentally got out this is a direct contradiction of literally everything else he has said on this episode if the chinese are making this bio weapon to use against us that kind of contradicts the race specific bio weapon stuff if they're creating a vaccine that kind of contradicts the goal of depopulating china if it accidentally got out of the lab that contradicts the stuff about it being an intentional release by the chinese

government this isn't a situation where alex is considering multiple possibilities this is him within the span of a few hours pretending to credibly report two entirely incompatible narratives right these two things cannot both be true yet one of them he's pitched based on hard science quote on quote and the other is not a theory it's what his totally real pentagon sources told him i have a very strong feeling that alex is having a field day selling the shit off of the virus panic that he's creating and because of that he doesn't really give a shit of the things he's saying about the outbreak are internally self-contradictory it doesn't matter because his audience is very dumb and they won't notice super glaring problems with his narratives like this it's all

just building fear and he's willing to do it however he can because fear translates directly into money i i will say that you do not need to give me any information on boil's background if all you did was play me a clip where alex said that string of nonsense and then he said that's correct alex then i'm like oh okay clearly everything is bullshit if you just say that's correct to alex jones regardless of if he's just like it's a dicey it's a dicey this is this the movie where will smith is in it i'm not going to say that's correct i'm going to be like what movie are you fucking talking about you give me all the information first you might be being led down a path exactly so alex uh he's talking to boil and one of the things i noticed pretty clearly

was that all he really has to go on is that indian paper that got retracted i think that's pretty clear here just remember major indian lab comes out says it's had the hiv delivery system welded onto it they don't did well they just were moving under pressure that's how the u.s government and others won't send out the rna sequencing of this so people can tell how to test it because when they get that they look at it and even low-level labs can go oh my god this is funny the three dollar bill will get dr boil's take on that if that's accurate that's what others are saying straight ahead stay with us that's not accurate and uh all of its nonsense so he does believe that the bsl one through one two three four like be even bsl twos can see that this is bullshit no no no

lower level labs meaning like smaller universities or something uh but so alex wants to act like he's just operating off this retracted indian paper that's been roundly criticized by other scientists and um he wants to know what boil thinks of it and here's what boil thinks of i read that study uh when it came out it was convincing to me including the pictures obviously i believe the chinese government put pressure on the indian government to take it down so it was taken down that's based on his thoughts so you asked me last time boil came up if you was an active teacher and it appears that he is and so i wanted to get a bummer i wanted to get a sense of what kind of a teacher he was so i consulted the website rate my professor yeah where boil

has received 18 ratings with an average of 2.7 out of five too high one review says quote more of a conspiracy theorist but still a fun interesting lecture every time another okay says quote this is a great class if you want to get some credit and not have to go to class uh but the class itself doesn't have a lot of substance fair another reviewer says quote this course teaches you nothing i want to take this course this next one sounds just about right quote i learned nothing in a semester of jurisprudence except a lot of tinfoil uh hat ranting about the pope and newt gingrich he will use a mic in a small lecture hall then scream into it the entire class expect migraines and worse than uh one l uh belittling over questions with no answers don't expect actual

legal philosophy or history it is really tough to get rid of a tenured professor isn't it yep that is the basic thing here also they're doing a video skype interview alex and uh frances and his office looks like a tornado just passed through it far be it for me to judge i don't keep a tidy house very well but his office is another level it looks like an episode of hoarders okay it it should it's a red flag alex should go to audio there's only one question i want to know the answer to what's that is there an unhung picture probably so they get to talking about uh the idea of race specific bio weapons and uh frances boil believes they are real and what do you know he's got the same source that alex does as to your point on uh uh ethnic

specific biological weapons yes uh we've tried to develop them here in the united states under the influence of the neocons who believe in these things that's in the uh p naq report this is just based on the project for a new back and century document but rebuilding america's defenses which does not prove that these things are real and again it was a justification to increase the defense spending budget of the united states yeah is an example of a hypothetical threat it was evil in its own way but not in the way they're portraying it so it's interesting to me in this sense that like frances boil does believe using the same sources that alex uses that these race or ethnic specific bio weapons do exist however he does not believe that that is true in this case at this

point i was considering uh race specific and with the chinese and then blacks are so different than that would not would kind of preclude that i i think that is my conclusion alex that's correct so i don't think this this is that so a black person got it so now it's not a race i just i just don't know how to handle people this dumb because this is a combination it's tough of this is one of those times where you see alex being unequivocally stupid and evil yeah he is and this is the dumbest possible shit that he is also using to sell in an evil way and be a fucking well bigoted nightmare i mean you should know that he feels a little bit bad about selling stuff i mean i don't want to care i almost feel opportunistic oh when i'm positioned almost with

the very nano silver the pentagon and homeland security has said has been proven to take out sars nope but you know what i've been selling it for years because i go out and find out whatever the best product to show people this shot please oh do you feel opportunistic alex is he going to show us like the date that he started selling it no we just flashes up the same information about the god damn it you are opportunistic this is a hundred percent opportunistic this is a disgrace and you're doing it with the food too i had talks two weeks ago with the owner and the founder and then the ceo and all that and they're just like do you think we should keep buying more food or should we just sell out what do you think we should do because it's hard to buy food when it

goes up in price and i said i believe you should put everything you have to buy more food i believe this is probably real i don't want to tell my audience that let's wait and see but they'll have food they eat anyways and sure enough unfortunately you see this is a serious so it's good to be prepared info or store.com it funds our independent maverick operation oh wow magically sales are through the roof for my patriots apply and hey you know my narratives are getting way worse i don't want to feel opportunistic and hey what do you know we find out this is real oh my god it's so it's so terrible what a great coincidence for me at a time when i really needed it yeah it just works out oh like clockwork so alex is talking to francis boil and he still was on hold

alex was selling his shit just disgraceful that is rough you can't feel great about that no and so he goes back to boil and he wants to ask like how bad is this gonna get from your sources at the u n from your own research how bad is this well alex uh you had this so-called tabletop computer game at uh johns hopkins bill gates again 65 million dead that's correct oh my god and johns hopkins is a well-known center for the neocons who fully support uh biological weapons and even ethnic specific biological weapons based on in their uh p neck uh report that tabletop exercise which is really a war game um resulted in 65 million deaths uh that's the only figure i have seen that seems to be credible uh as to where this uh could believe where where this could lead i mean

we could be dealing something here as bad as the the spanish flu virus i i lost a grandmother a century ago to the spanish flu virus so that alex i guess is a worst case scenario i i'm not here to scare anyone or get anyone oh really panic i'm 65 million dead the best analysis i agree look the problem is like i don't care what your motives are and you francis boil specifically now wanting to scare people you are a guest a spousing things on a program where the guy is trying to scare people so you are being used as a tool to scare people whether you like it or not yeah and it's interesting because for the most part you know um boil is accused of being like more left in his conspiracy theory more on the left side of things sure and it makes you realize

that maybe a lot of people have very similar information that comes to them whether it be from a left perspective or a right perspective sure in terms of conspiracy theory right because he's using all of the same talking points as alex right this uh this john's hopkins uh uh tabletop exercise that we talked about that has not not real applicability to the actual outbreak that ended up happening sure after it like he's using these same touchstones the peanut document the all all of it is the same right he has the same interpretation of the indian study that was retracted he's using this bill gates john's hopkins tabletop exercise like it's it's it's really weird to me because i mean he he wants trump impeached right he has

very different politics it seems and alex they come together on uh the conspiracies about a new world order or something a bad foundation doesn't really uh it doesn't really matter what kind of uh i guess point of view you have after that i guess not a bad foundation is still going to crumble yep so it's suspicious that trump isn't doing anything if uh there's a bioweapon a foot uh he must be in on it i assume that's their angle right if trump's not doing anything i don't know these this is dumb then how is trump wrong give us the new launch in praising g i believe president trump was misadvised that under no circumstance he's not being advised that it's a bioweapon that's your problem that's correct i don't believe he has been uh uh

advised it is a bioweapon or that that this is um a turbocharged bioweapon i just don't believe he understands that i the scientific advisors he has around them you know these are uh very well said i agree with your statement so but i thought you had pentagon sources who are telling how does this track how does this make any sense alex is pretending he has pentagon sources that are feeding him this information about it being a bioweapon and all this shit but somehow trump's advisors just won't tell him yep none of this none of this tracks trump is the smartest strongest most powerful most successful president however it does seem like every time he wants to do something that alex does like he's been foiled right by an advisor or two a globalist who's infiltrated he is

the best president in history it does seem like every time he wants to do something though uh his advisors are giving him bad information yeah yeah so um that boyle's point is like get rid of these biosafety level four gotta get rid of research centers because they're they're just attack they're just they're just at that point i guess get rid of three two and then maybe two and then one get rid of all research i say get rid of tanks as well while we're at it why not yeah so alex uh wraps up the interview and now he's adopted that as his sort of talking point which is weird this is just insane and they all do it the name of safety like we all have guns in our houses the name of safety but they're not locked up right or somebody bad gets them they can cause a problem but that's

okay just a few people get killed that's part of being free bad stuff happens and over all the good outweighs the bad that we're free and empowered and it's good so this makes no sense the argument alex is trying to lay out here uh is that uh the man says they're working on vaccines and treatments in these bio labs for the sake of public safety and that's why you know you keep a gun in the house for safety and you know if guns aren't handled appropriately people end up dying and that's just the cost of being free but the benefits outweigh the costs how is that not totally analogous to bio labs i don't understand if security protocols aren't followed strictly and appropriately some of this research can pose a danger and in those cases it can result in some deaths sure it's

pretty hard to dispute the fact that advancements in vaccine science have absolutely outweigh the costs of any of this research and if you don't agree with that i would suggest you look into some of the conditions that don't exist anymore that are basically nightmare diseases alex can't even figure out how to be against this shit at this point he wants to say it's a race specific bio weapon that the chinese false flagged themselves with but then he talks to boil and boil's not into that argument boil is all about attacking these bio labs so now alex has to pivot or disagree with boil and risk destroying the thin veneer of credibility he has as an expert if alex disagrees with boil he's no longer useful in any way to validate his narratives about how scared people

need to be and thus why they need to buy his product so that is not an option and thus alex has to now be against these bio labs it's just a mess because alex doesn't prepare and he has no idea what he's talking about and these aren't topics you can really just wing yeah i imagine that if the bio labs made a gun that shot viruses alex would be in real trouble he'd be like oh i love these guns but i'm against these labs i don't know so now boil's gone and alex gets to do what he really wants to do which is ramble about the bible there we go it's not fiction written by some hebrews it's direct divine knowledge folks you know god would say no i'll actually do it i'll come down there i'll show you how it's done i'll walk a mile in your shoes right now may do it i'll do it right

now in fact i won't just physically take the torture and all of it i will take all of the sent on so that i metaphysically then can forgive you and take you on because that's how the universe works it's energetic and god's got to be that sacrificial lamb that goes between the two two then because you can't have new free will creatures given that much power who aren't going to mess up and do evil stuff but they've just got to make the spiritual decision to go with god and then god will cheat the rest of the way to take us over and you know at this level god's going to take folks over there they're still turning it's gone you know i don't want to get into stuff but i've seen the next levels and they're indescribable and this is this isn't just like

the simplification people here and all this but there's a lot of rebellion going on against the nature of the universe so this is the guy that you anybody who's listening wants to take cues on science i think that's good i don't even wise you shouldn't even take cues on religion for no this is such the same thing of like i don't think anybody hates the constitution more than alex joe's yeah and i don't think anybody hates the bible more than people who talk about the bible the book of joe is like ninety percent you don't know why i do a god damn thing so don't ask me that's the whole book and i don't know if he's right it so alex starts talking about trump saying bullshit in that speech because alex is still really still loving it still loving it

so excited it's good stuff and he's like hey it's great it's great that he said it and you get these highfalutin southern baptist christians and he's like uh they're all against swearing yeah i think he says something bunch of nerds this is nonsensical i've got a lot of family a lot of great people and i love southern baptist but they'll tell you a cuss word is worse than aborting a baby i mean they won't say that but they get more upset about cuss word or drinking some wine than they will about aborting a baby it's like a lot of family or southern baptist and it's a holiness they have a bottle talk to your fucking family then i don't know who these southern baptists are who are i don't know i i don't care he's just complaining about his family anyway the bullshit thing becomes a little

bit of a theme and alex starts talking about some etymology and i think he might be a little is he trying to tell us where the word bullshit comes from and it's pretty great okay let's hear you know the truth is the bible doesn't say using old english before the norman took over almost a thousand years ago for the vikings took over england they came in and they banned the entire language of the saxon but it was only the cuss words that continued on the classic things people would say like bullshit they found two thousand year old plaques that say something is bs and what they would the anglo saxon would call something for whatever weird reason they had bs two thousand year old anglo saxons dan dan two thousand year old anglo saxons

linguists who trace the origin of the word bullshit to 1915 i was gonna say it's like a week ago it's earliest use of print being ts le its poem the triumph of bullshit this was considerably after the time of old english and the anglo saxons i i would say it was even after the time of the norman invasions totally yeah there are some suggestions that the word bull had connotation with the idea of something being nonsense but that's most likely due to the old french word for fraud which is bull i very strongly think that alex is just making shit up to try and make it seem more important that trump said bullshit in a speech because he's really really hung up on that so alex is really convinced that it's old english stuff and somehow about free speech issues or

something i don't know but he really gets excited about this and he ends up working himself up into a frenzy where he swears and they have to cut it out of the that's so funny there's a there's a delicious irony yeah yeah you know i like all those anglosaxon words tony montana likes one of these with f uses a lot it sounds good doesn't it friend it's a good word actually describes it too it's got a lot of different meanings like you got or i'm gonna or that was a great i mean it's got a lot of meanings it's a nice word that was a great care of it oh this is a family show dude but we didn't do anything about 50 million 60 million dead babies we didn't do anything about all this other stuff we just sat around and felt good and went to church because we were so good

all day what a little shit what a little shit i liked you that they miss edited they miss edited yes they got rid of the bull it's like when they used to bleep out the hole in asshole and you're like what are you idiots doing what's so great about that is that i didn't edit that that's how the show came out and so clearly the delay was there yeah like all right alex is on a rant about how he's going to use swearing because president did yeah and we can't do that yeah it's hilarious man what a dick that's funny yeah that is funny but i can't put it like strongly enough to capture alex's feelings he loves the trump said bullshit the pedophiles taken over is the enemy not the president using old english thousand years old not spoken by any norma nobility and captured england

that is the most anglo-saxon we scottish but he even gets it more that is the sexiest thing i've seen a while politically politically these people are fucking insane i thought there's no bottom and somehow this bottom is even weirder this is a completely different well of no bottom trump saying bullshit is the sexiest thing so anglo-saxon why do we live in 2020 i don't i want to live elsewhere yeah i want to live i don't know two thousand years ago with my other anglo-saxon brothers dan yeah so alex takes a couple calls and they're not really notable at all but then he he's like i can't get to the rest of these calls and he says something absurd but i think he thinks it's true kevin and sarah and elaine i respect you i appreciate you i didn't

have time to get to you we took over 30 calls i would throw your promises that right when the war room starts in three minutes four minutes he's going to write your calls first he said he took 30 calls he probably took five okay but i think he thinks he took 30 calls yeah of course he does i think he thinks it's like i knocked it out of the park and i actually didn't even cut a clip of this yeah because i just thought like i who cares i don't really give a shit but earlier in this show he said yesterday we took 40 calls yeah he did not on the day before this show take 40 calls i do like he has his perception that he's getting a lot more done than he actually is which may be universal he's not just rewriting world events but his own events as well yeah in that

he's in the middle yeah there's a that he lives an entirely fictional life yeah definitely that's fascinating so and he should be in a hell in a home this is somewhere to help him this is the last clip from february 7th on this friday show and i think up to this point we've seen like real indications that alex is irresponsibly and possibly against regulations selling of his immune gargle yeah and i think that this clip he's dead to rights he is breaking advertising laws finding the info or while at the same time preparing yourself and your family is a 360 win we have our main 16 ounce super silver with nano silver that's that's been documented by the pentagon to take out the star's family of ours which is the same as this one it is sold out we

have the one ounce about to sell out the three ounce still available it'll be sold out at current rates about a week and a half this is the most explicit i've seen where he's talking about a condition and a product which are the two constituent pieces that you need to be making a health claim yep i from everything i've read up on and i understand about how the fda regulations work this is a breach of uh well he or at least he's making a health claim and now he needs to notify the fda and he has 30 days to substantiate that claim yeah so good luck this needs to this needs to happen there's this it's it's unfathomable to me that he would be so wiped out financially by his misconduct with sandy hook uh and that situation and then claw his way out of it by

illegally selling products well actually makes total sense that's no it does make sense and that's why it cannot be allowed to happen he needs to be stopped with this so this is fucked up i would have just stopped there and we you know i have an episode about the seventh and this sort of development of alex being like this is a race specific bio weapon and the chinese are asking for it because their genome is all the same like whoa whoa what the fuck because that's it that's a departure and the way he's normalizing the discussion of a hypothetical release of biological weapons is is totally unacceptable but then i saw that he did this emergency broadcast on the eighth yeah and this is wild stuff here's how it starts and my friends we are here with you on

saturday afternoon with an emergency broadcast president trump announced through his chief science advisor who heads up major federal agencies anthony s fauti that they are investigating the novel coronavirus out of china as a man made biological weapon and they called for other scientific institutes and the general scientific community as well as governments and the media to look into that so this is a story that has one source and it's zero hedge which has really been on the leading end of you know lying well spreading completely false information about the coronavirus in the past month which has led to them being kicked off twitter after accusing a chinese scientist of creating the virus and doxing them wonder if they're getting any ad revenue from

my patriot supply i don't know anyway i'm not even going to ever listen to zero hedge so i checked out their site and i wanted to find their source on this story and turns out their source is an abc news article at the headline quote white house asks scientists to investigate origins of coronavirus important note this is not breaking news that requires an emergency saturday show for alex this article was published on february sixth which was thursday prior to his friday show he had no idea this even happened until one of his interns found the zero hedge article yep just just a shitty process for a news outlet the first paragraph of this abc news story is this quote the white house on thursday asked us scientists and medical researchers to investigate

the scientific origins of the novel coronavirus as misinformation about the outbreak spreads online hmm that doesn't sound like they're coming out and saying that this is a bio weapon but i guess that's you know how alex wants to frame it it's certainly his right to lie we uh that that is that should have been that should have been very obvious that the article about how information is being spread uh disinformation is being spread is used of course to spread disinformation naturally yeah this article is literally about the director of the white house office of science and technology policy kevin i'm sorry kelvin drogmeier being worried about that retracted indian paper which quote had shown the urgency for accurate information about the genesis of

this outbreak this guy was worried about how this paper which was deeply flawed and retracted had resulted in a barrage of misinformation and wanted to make sure that the national academy of sciences was able to answer the questions people had which led them to accept this deeply flawed and retracted paper as accurate important to keep in mind that paper is one of alex's only sources for the claims that he makes that this is a bio weapon the only thing close to helping alex's narrative here which is coincidentally the part of that abc news article that zero edge quotes is from dr anthony fouchy the director of the national institute of allergy and infectious diseases he's asked quote about concerns that stem from misinformation online that the novel coronavirus could have been engineered

or deliberately released his response is quote there's always that concern and one of the things that people are doing right now is very carefully looking at sequences to see if there's even a possibility much less likelihood that that's going on and you could ultimately determine that so people are looking at it but right now the focus is on what we're going to do about what we have that would be something that scientists would rule out and it makes sense that this guy would say that however there's a big difference between what he's saying and alex's decision that this definitely is a bio weapon which he absolutely has determined definitively for sure it's been proven check the white papers it's in the wiki leaks this article is about a white house official

calling for a meeting of experts to collaborate largely inspired by the flood of misinformation related to the indian paper that is the basis for alex's reporting in essence this is about the white house wanting to push back on the very thing that alex is engaging in which makes a kind of ironic that he read a twisted version of this article and zero hedge then decided to do an emergency show on saturday about it to declare a victory while i'm telling you we need to start this media consult so here's what we're going to do we've got this consult consulting firm for just science and what'll happen is anytime a journalist calls looking for a quote the scientists will then call us and they'll say here's my reasonable response to this question and i will say

do not say that right absolutely do not say that that is that is a very reasonable response i understand it and you understand it but they are going to go nuts with it yeah so let's try this no right so in that article there's two things going on the first is the main point of the article is about this kelvin drogemeier who's the the head of the office of science and technology policy he is the one who's called for scientists to get together and work on this plan sure work on information like an evil globalist anthony fouchi is unrelated to that he is just another person that abc news consulted for a comment but he is the person who is quoted in the zero hedge article because he has comments that are closer to what the narratives they want so alex believes that

this entire article is about anthony fouchi and he is the one who called for the scientists to this is funny this is actually really funny it's sad but it's funny and yes we've got the white house main spokesperson the main scientist president trump didn't appoint him like john p holdren obama did the u genesis to call for population reduction uh that was john p holdren not anthony fouchi so trump didn't appoint an official science are but fouchi is his chief science advisor so anthony fouchi is the director of the national institute of allergy and infectious diseases his chief science advisor correct he's just someone who is interviewed to provide a little extra to that abc news article the person in the white house who called for the meeting of

experts was the head of office of science and technology policy but alex doesn't know that because he read a different article he didn't read the article all he knows what was in the zero hedge article and they don't mention that dude they don't mention the office of science and technology policy dude they only talk about fouchi because like i said he's the one who's closest to their narratives also trump didn't appoint anthony fouchi to any position at all he's been in the national institutes of health since 1968 and he's been the head of the national institute of allergy and infectious diseases since 1984 as long as i've been alive wow yeah he was given the presidential medal of freedom in 2008 for fuck's sake oh man i'm look i'm sure

this dude's doing a great job sure too old get him out of there get him out of there i saw some pictures of him he looks fine i'm sure he is trump did appoint the guy who's the head of the office of science and technology policy and that guy kelvin drogemeyer is his main science advisor but he is not anthony fouchi alex has no idea what he's talking about because he doesn't prepare and he just does bad work also john p holder and might have been called a science are but his official title was you guessed it director of the office of science and technology policy exactly the same as this other dude yeah nothing alex says means anything nope but it's really fun it's really fun when you realize like alex doesn't know shit it's it's so glaring i had

such a real bummer the whole like when zars became a thing during a bush's second term when everybody's doing zars now i gotta hear about zars all the time it was a real job god damn it it was a mistake yeah so anyway alex editorializes a little bit about anthony fouchi here it's just so funny it's so funny that's you think oh god it's great and uh fouchi he's asked to the press conference here's people saying this is man made you want to shut that down he goes no that's always the big concern and we're looking for people to investigate that and where it came from because it's very unusual i read you all the comment from the abc that is a grave mischaracterization of his comments yeah and i don't know if it was he i don't even know if he

was at a press conference because like as it reads in the article it just seems like they called a correspondent from abc news asked him yes it's not specified it's in a press conference i don't know i don't know if that's true i think alex is just making this shit up which makes it funny he says things like this and i just got to point out what we've reported what our guests have reported has turned out to be deadly accurate and i mean basically to the numbers because we don't make stuff we really work around the clock try to bring you the best info that abc news article would have taken you three minutes to read and you didn't do that you didn't just you just read something on zero hedge and was like okay fine i don't have to find out where this came from dumb ass i don't

think i've ever seen a terminal case of dunning kruger but i think this is going to get him killed so this is really funny man because okay so he's building this up that he thinks that anthony fouchi is the main science advisor the trumpet that and he's just call it he's blowing the whistle he's saying this is man yes yeah it's not him no no but so this is not a name that has ever come up on the show before this is not somebody that alex has ever cared about but it turns out alex has been aware of him for a long time now let's look at the facts the president through his medical spokesperson who's very respected i made a lot of calls about fouchi in the last few months i knew who he was and i say he's very respected a quote legend yeah he is a quote he is very respected very respected

alex has made calls about him in the past few months this is ridiculous i just this is so said like this is you you see this and you see like a teenager bluffing a book report totally this is like totally a teenager but he's a 45 year old man lying about a public health crisis absolutely jesus christ the exact same like sort of dodging having to do work behaviors are being manifested here but the stakes are very high he has a ton of listeners that he's misleading about his products in order to sell silver and food buckets but it's still really funny the way he's acting oh man the the the the way he's acting is funny the consequences not so much yeah yeah yeah it's it's a but it's like he's so fucking confident yeah he's so god damn confident in something that he's

just entirely fictional it's so easy to see through yeah just like take the second step just read one or yeah just read the abc thing yeah it's it's it's very funny unreal yeah so alex i want to i want to play this clip because i i think this is a really perfect demonstration of the shitty game alex plays with headlines so here's the headlines in forewords dot com white house ass scientists investigate if corona virus was bioengineered oh but don't believe us i'm getting got even abc news with the same headline white house ass scientists investigate origins of corona virus abc news you see how here how the game is played alex's headline from info wars is just a reposting of the article from zero hedge with a little spin added to it with added

implications that the white house is specifically interested in investigating this as a bio weapon that's an unfair reading of the actual article but it's in line with the zero hedge article the zero hedge article is based on the abc news story which it's misrepresenting by only focusing on and distorting the quote from anthony fauci in order to create their spin you have this base story from abc news which has spin added by zero hedge which is then reposted with added spin by info wars and now alex is reporting on that story on his show to add credibility to his story he says even abc news is reporting on this and points to the abc news article that was the basis for the zero hedge story and secondarily for his own report this entire story is just propaganda

spinning an abc news story for their own purposes so it's a little weak to then say that abc news even agrees with us on this an honest outlet would just cover the abc news article directly and accurately and then if they wanted to give added focus to fauci they're welcome to do that in an appropriate fashion what zero hedge and alex are doing is blatant bullshit and i say that much like trump to indicate that this is serious if you want to see how blatant this shit is consider this no longer can the tail wag the dog so here we are reporting on it first again and it's basically the exact same heaven first that abc news has because they can't cover this up anymore the abc news article is the source for the zero hedge article which alex is reporting on but he's pretending

that he put this article out and then abc news was forced to stop covering up and report on this this is brazen shit even from alex like you can just see the dates on stuff like it's not this is absolutely disinformation metastasizing like you just watch this cancer grow it's horrific yeah god damn now this is really great so depressing this is really great because alex in that last clip you can very clearly see that he thinks that his actions caused this abc news article that's not how even the cover up how bad it really is where it's going what trump should do dr boyle's saying trump must take action and investigate his man made five hours later his head scientist comes down to the press conference not saying we did that i told the audience call

the line you did that and let's toot our own horn don't toot your own horn because there's a problem with this theory that interview with frances boyle happened on february 7th and he's trying to pretend that in response to that interview everybody called the white house and then trump had his science expert announced they were investigating this as a bio weapon leaving aside that trump didn't do that the abc news article he's basing that narrative on was published on february 6th the article predates alex's interview with frances boyle this is just a pathetic display of narcissism an embarrassing act of being wrong about basic details not since the sacksons were invaded by the nor totally in 2064 holy shit in such lies well get ready okay because we're about to

ourselves oh alex has a guest so joining us on this emergency saturday transmission is mike adams god damn it thanks for holding for the last few minutes while i was ranting uh what should we hit first just give us a prime approximation because you've been the most accurate person yet on this it's over for humanity you son of a bitch okay i i knew that i knew that that one's on me he doesn't say that so alex says mike adams on because he's the most accurate player in the game right here's what he has to say uh first of all anyone in the tech industry or the mainstream media that is pushing censorship of those of us who are telling the truth about this those organizations are complicit in the deaths that are going to continue to occur even outside of china

they are in essence rooting for the virus by denying people accurate information that we need in order to be safe to be prepared to self isolate to avoid joining crowds you know to stay off the cruise ships and all the things that people need to do to stop the spread so the left wing media wants this to spread the tech giants want it to spread so now the stakes of him getting back on facebook are if you don't let me back on facebook you are on the side of the corona virus i i will take that challenge mike please self isolate put yourself in a small container i just say grow up oh dick is i know you want back on facebook but this is getting embarrassing yeah this is a tantrum so um alex and him talk about like hey you know like hey these people are creating these

bio weapons sure uh maybe people should kill them no i'm gonna stop you mike and i want you to start over but i'm not trying to act tough saying execute them if i was breeding a weapon that could kill a billion people in my garage and knew i was doing it i mean i deserve to be killed i mean i'm just at a point i'm just the default is people making race specific weapons and stuff it needs it's already outlawed don't do it or a mob's gonna come and lynch your ass i mean i'm just at a certain point it needs to stop so i mean of course i would agree with him that if people are creating race specific bio weapons then they should be put up on trial for war crimes yeah i don't think it's healthy to you know do a show where you're saying that anybody who's researching vaccines is secretly

trying to create offensive race specific bio weapons and then be like at a certain point mobs are gonna come lynch you all that's a nonsense even for him that's ridiculous because what's okay so then we get to that line again of like okay well what's the level of a horrific weapon that deserves a lynch mob sure should oppenheimer be hung sure should how about fucking smith and wesson how about that absolutely not yeah well what's the fucking yeah right i mean that's one very uh real logistical concern yeah but more more to the point he's sort of implying that people should kill scientists pretty pretty seriously saying that yes yeah so mike adams is really dumb and a lot of his information is really stupid and one of the things that you can really tell

that by is things that he cites here is a prime example neil ferguson of imperial college london is now out there estimating 50 000 infections per day right now in china those are his estimates not mine i don't really care what neil ferguson thinks about the outbreak for one he's a guy who's been a past info wars guest so he's suspicious right out of the gates if he said that's correct alex then he's already done in my book second he's a professor of humanities with a degree in history and philosophy he has no real standing here as an expert so naturally he's the sort of person mike is citing as an expert on virology and epidemiology and virus expansion rates neil ferguson has no standing here he's not somebody who you cite as an expert in public health issues

but he's a past info wars guest and he's saying what they want somebody to say hey you work to the imperial college you know go fuck yourself yeah you can't cite neil ferguson here and not just that if it's it's not you can't have 50 000 a day what would happen is you'd have 50 000 a day and then 50 000 the next day and then 200 000 and then a million and then we'd all be fucking dead if you're talking 50 000 new cases per day right that's going to progress geometrically in a way that is impossible to deal with right that's not a thing right but i mean neil ferguson he's a professor of history so oh okay so he's watched so you're wrong oh fair enough anyway that's just a really good example of like who cares yeah what you're saying who cares i'm not

i'm not going to take that seriously yeah and then second like it's just all over the place everything is flawed all of their primary sources all of their data is useless if the death rate is 15 to 17 percent which i will lay out here in a minute china has admitted it by the way in a press conference they accidentally admitted it then neil ferguson's estimates professor ferguson his estimates of 50 000 new infections a day translates to 7 500 deaths a day so right here i believe that what he's talking about is that 10 cent website glitch yeah is where you get the the revelation of this higher mortality rate and then you've got neil ferguson's humanities professor prediction it's not it's not worthwhile so that those are the two pieces so far

in china over the next few weeks because it takes time for people who are infected to start dying and by the way what do that land's studies say about the spread rate and the and the infection rate and the death rate 83 percent infection rate for those who are exposed 15 percent mortality rate in the landsat study that lands at study was not applicable to the general population that was a study of people who presented with the pneumonia's they were already it was a 41 sample size they're already the more extreme cases it's not applicable to the general population mic adams is not dealing with this data responsibly now here the land's it it's it's in the range it's a little bit higher 17 percent but listen to this remember the leaked data that came out of china where they had the

second database and they accidentally showed the real numbers for a few minutes and that was confirmed spend time on that we've got time i mean it's not confirmed again that's just the 10 cent website glitch that people have theorized about but now alex saying it's confirmed it was a second set of data so bullshit none of the stuff that they're saying means anything yeah i don't like that it seems like this is the only way they have fun it does seem like well i mean they're making money yeah well that's fair that's fair so earlier in the show and on the seventh alex has been suggesting that they won't send out the rna pattern or the the sequence because if they do people will look into it and they'll find oh my god this is a franken virus thousands of people have it it's

not true everywhere it's not true at all you could probably get a copy if you ask politely if i search that guy's twitter thread i probably find it anyway that's not true so now you have to like mike adams can't make that claim because he knows that his own website is probably published pieces of it yeah you know like it's it's nonsensical and so now you got to move the goalpost why won't they send out samples of the virus like well because you put in a bullet in your fucking drink you moron that's why they don't send out samples but then a secondary issue to that is like um if they did you would criticize them for doing that absolutely why are they allowing these samples to be taken wherever like it's it's again they get you coming and going no matter what you

do they're going to complain about even if they were like the only way to get rid of it is with bleach they'd be like ha ha that's what we told you all along but now you shouldn't drink bleach because they've been secretly putting the virus inside and what about us people who are made of ammonia yeah exactly how do we mix with bleach well it's also interesting china has not released samples of this actual virus the physical virus they've released the data about it but not the physical samples however any enemy nation such as iran or north korea can send 10 human volunteers to the uhan region they'll get infected they can bring it back and they can harvest it from their saliva and they can replicate it in egg yolks good thing uh it's uh Wuhan's under lockdown so the

terrorists can't get into man yeah so he believes like i just sent 10 terrorists over there and then they'll get in make egg yolks yeah turns out mic's also an asshole yeah i don't know how many virgins these islamic terrorists get for blowing themselves up but there's probably bonus virgins out there if they in fact all of new york city or something with this virus i don't know how their virginomics system works but you know they're insane and they think they're gonna get rewarded for killing americans now guess what they've been handed a new way to do that it's a whole new vector super easy to release in the united states the cdc will not be able to contain that when that day comes this is exactly the same things they said about Ebola this is exactly the same thing they

said about all of these public health things like when Ebola was happening they're like what stopping terrorists from going down and getting Ebola and then spreading it like it this is just standard boilerplate shit nonsense we're we're a new vector we're screwed we're screwed we're screwed because the right is getting too good at humor did you hear that he definitely bonus virgins he thinks he's great virginomics or whatever oh guys clever oh man i remember being an open mics 20 years ago and that was funny so mike has other big news though that that feeds into this uh this sense of panic that everybody should be feeling and uh it's bullshit uh we're getting reports of mass school closures where they're shutting down entire campuses all across

america right now because of outbreaks get to that right well well it's you know when i was a kid when i went to school we were they never shut down the school system just because some kids got sick now suddenly there are mass school closings happening that's shutting down the whole campus i don't know when he was in school or you know i don't care really most like it happens every year schools closed during flu season yeah it's not not every school district it's not every city but you can google it very easily and find articles year by year by year about schools closing because of an outbreak of the flu at the school yeah that happens all the time like mike is a fucking asshole pretending that it's unheard of that this year there are schools closing because of the flu

because it helps them push us bullshit narratives this is this is deeply disturbed behavior yeah i we need a government program to truman show these guys you know what i'm saying we need to isolate them we need to build actors around them so they feel safe and comfortable problem with this plan i don't want to watch that show oh that's true i don't want to watch that show yeah so it's interesting maybe we just keep them in a dome it's interesting all their information is just dog shit it's so bad um it i i don't even know what what else to say it's all stupid yeah this is insane but there's also a level of the just like rank narcissism flying around we should have you back on the regular sunday show or the monday show tomorrow to really break this down options for

trump he's clearly listening trumps clearly listening that is a reference back to him believing that his interview with frances boil precipitated the abc news article that came out prior to the interview yeah this is this is lunacy anyway jesus despite them being wrong about everything everything everything literally everything yeah totally even their own descriptions of things that they know to be true despite all that they're usually right i don't have some talking points somebody gave me we're two men with a great crew of men and women behind us telling it like who you hate we have research on what we're saying just like somebody at five thousand years ago on the tribe standing up and saying i just saw ships landing out there and they got weapons they're

coming to enslave us and everybody knows what you're a liar you tell the truth well you're somebody in the tribe that's always told the truth you might have made a mistake a few times but most of the time you're right they get their weapons to get ready now some little lion cry wolf person like ryan stelter gets up they might you know throw him off a cliff or tell him get out of town but when it gets up it tells the truth over and over again they get ready now maybe those ships just landed decided to leave the point is the ships are landing this looks really bad we hope it isn't as bad as it looks but we're not going to lie to you and tell you what we're saying i would love to have a half of alex's confidence i know about his own behaviors yeah like he doesn't recognize that

he's been wrong about everything everything instantly i mean he probably does but you can't let that show well if you do then you're showing your ass a little bit the problem is even if he does recognize that he doesn't know the real truth which is that he's wrong about everything true even if he knows he's wrong about most of it he still thinks he's right about at least a few things yeah and those few things he needs to be disabused of the notion that i they are true and and like look everything is fiction and he's sitting here saying that like hey man we're just two dudes telling it like it is we don't have talking points stop you know what your talking points are sure you don't call them talking points yeah there's zero hedge headlines

that's those are your talking points you do have talking points your talking points are whatever it is that will help you sell fucking whatever it is that can be sold yeah they're bullet points on a sales list exactly you that's your talking points yep dick so this ends with about 15 minutes of alex doing sales pitches yeah it's bad we're not going to listen to any of that good they're done talking about the coronavirus nonsense for now and they the alex and mike have a little bit of a discussion about uh trump's firings of uh colonel vindeman right i'm sure that they're against it it's it's another abuse it's a retaliatory thing they love any no you should have protection nope you shouldn't be able to the fans okay can't get enough no it's because that's an authority

more curveballs thrown at him and because he's a symbol of nationalism and populism he's had his best week uh since he came down that escalator four and a half years ago in my view do you agree with that how is the deep state going to strike back now they're talking about its baddie fired vitamin and the ambassador sonlin that should be the tip of the iceberg he needs to talk about purge he needs to purge anybody that's been soros anybody that's an eocon anybody that's been deep state anybody that's leftist because they're all slaves they're all committed to evil there's no way they're not going to keep sabotaging trump finally has to begin the political purge he's the executive he has a right to clean house this is the trump we've been waiting for and it's time for trump to not

only purge all those traders and deep staters and drain that swamp it's time to lock her up so that's cool i mean if uh you know trump were to do something more extreme uh in terms of showing a power clearing out dissent within the government uh any on any critical voices let's say it's good to know that alex and mike would see that as the trump we've been waiting for as as uh we all know alex is a student of history loves it and he knows that when an autocratic leader surrounds himself with nothing but yes men it works good things happen it works well good things happen so all i hear is him saying he's very excited for a peaceful transition of power in totally i think he's really excited about but the thing is dude look these firings sure they might look like

retaliation for people who testified uh against no he just said they were a purge well it might look like that but it's just because they were deep state they were deep state still a purge point is this is the deep state being removed this is the anti-american being removed this is the cancer being removed and uh the ambassador and all of them being removed and they're like the president can't do this oh he can't fire who he wants in his own administration look dude and bad sondland was not deep state he was like a business he was a career yeah he was a careerist he was a he was he was a guy who worked in a he donated to trump yeah and trump was like here's a job it's not the deep fucking insane yeah this is all not said anyway we laugh but you can call anybody a trader

ex post facto it's true it's it's kind of surprising that the moment he does something you don't like he's been deep state all along yeah yeah so i mean what we see over the course of this couple days is like a real um pivot in the coronavirus narrative towards like the it's now definitively it's a bio weapon it's probably race specific china might be false flagging themselves but if it's the united states then it's just payback for fentanyl and it's totally ethical for us to do that that's super weird alex talks to francis boil and then he has to sort of backpedal and be like yeah bio labs are the problem yeah it's this is all very troubling stuff it it's it i don't like i don't like where it's going i don't know where it can go um but then our trend

that we saw on i believe it was on the last episode where alex is talking about outlawing the democratic party that's still in there too yeah but it's put to the back burner because alex needs to push all the stuff to sell the product okay new pitch all right here's my new idea we write up some templates all right and if you can plug trump into one of these templates then you know it's bad because these are shit written by gerbils and uh pro Stalinists and putanists and all of these people and if you can just put trump in there then we know it's a bad idea right i mean it's simple it's been i think people have done this yeah i know it's worked right no oh shit anyway sorry about this episode being very um outright heavy and a little bit depressing

yeah there is a weird vibe yeah i feel weird a little bit maybe it's look i know it was tough it's a little lame it's getting laborious that alex won't stop uh coming up with new lies that he's reading on zero hedge about the corona virus but i think if nothing else then anthony fouchy stuff i think is fucking hilarious the way alex is pretending that he's known about him for months i you know that's that's just you didn't need to make that lie that's just another one of those lies where he's a child it was 30 guys and i fought them all instead of it was it was three guys fighting off three guys is still an amazing thing you can just say three guys we'd all be excited for you what a mess yeah so anyway hopefully the next episode will be non coronavirus related

doubtful unless the sales end then i don't think we're going to he's out of the gargle once he's out of all that stuff i think we might be off we might be on to a different might finally get that in studio surgery we're waiting for but we will see we're back but until then we have a website we do have a website it's knowledge fight dot com we're also on twitter we are on twitter it's at knowledge underscore fight and act go to bed jordan we are uh yeah we're on facebook we sorry blank there yes yeah unlike mike adams and alex jones we're on facebook it's true and if you'd like to download the show please go to itunes or wherever podcast tool apps are sold relieve a review rate whatever donate it's lovely yeah we'll be back but until then i'm neo i'm leo i'm dzx clark i

am old english swear words andy in chansas you're on the air thanks for holding so alex i'm a first-time caller i'm a huge fan i love your work i love you