Knowledge Fight - #402: February 20, 2020

Episode Date: February 24, 2020

Today, Dan and Jordan take a look at the episode of The Alex Jones Show where Alex covers the sentencing of his buddy Roger Stone. In this installment, Alex tries to yell at reporters through an intermediary, becomes overwhelmed with his own narratives about the coronavirus, and takes a big swing-and-a-miss with covering a Trump speech live.

I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys. I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys. I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys. I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys. Have you ever taken a martial arts class? Yeah, maybe a little bit, but only for a very short period of time. What was it? I think it was Judo.

Judo? My brother took Judo when we were much younger, and I think I tried to get on the act a little bit, but it wasn't for me. It wasn't for you? No, not much. Was there any martial art that you were attracted to? Did you even watch Kung Fu movies or anything like that? Are you Bruce Lee guy? Not really. Not really?

One of the things in my household growing up was my parents were pretty controlling about media that we watched. Of course. Things that were at all violent were frowned upon and not really allowed in the house. I don't know if it was a hard and fast rule against martial arts movies, but they definitely weren't something in my dad's interest that would have allowed it to get past the restrictions of like, we're watching PBS and that's it. Your dad's not an enter the dragon guy. No, no, maybe a Monty Python movie or something. We could watch like Mystery Science Theater and stuff like that, you know, but so maybe some Kung Fu stuff that was made fun of on the Satellite of Love.

Other than that, no, I don't know. It was never a big part of my growing up martial arts. Have you ever had any interest in one particularly? Like if you had to choose one now, can you even think? List like three martial arts karate. Nice. Taekwondo. Done.

Akido. Isn't that one? Akido. Yes, that is one. Great. That's that's your Steven Segal right there. That's probably where I pulled the name from. Yeah, I don't know.

It's not. I have nothing but respect for people who are, you know, drawn to the martial arts. I understand the discipline involved is very, you know, high level. Yeah. But no, it's not for me. My body does not, you know, like another thing too is like, you got to get hit. I'm not into that. You don't have to get you got to fall.

Like there's people, you know, well, you're throwing people in practice. You got to be the one who gets thrown. I mean, early on, they teach you how to fall correctly. Wow. That's what they said about skateboarding too. Never quite learned how to fall off that board. Fair enough. There's a podcast where I don't know much about martial arts, but I do know a lot about Alex Jones.

And I know quite a bit about the former and nothing about the latter. Right. So, you know, when you go to the board and today, you know how when you drink booze, you get hung over? That's a thing that happens. I take it Alex is real hung over. No, I am experiencing what I could describe as an Alex Jones hangover. Okay.

From that Roger deposition. Right. Right. Right. That was like just the sweetest of the divine juice. Sure. Sure. And then coming back to Alex Jones is the hangover part.

I spent one night having so much fun and now I'm miserable for the rest of the week. Yeah. So getting ready for this episode was definitely like a why can't it always be like talking about Roger's position? So it's kind of a it was a tough transition, but we need to switch to a deposition only podcast. If there we just go through a bunch of depositions. If it were possible, like if there were enough source material of info wars, people being

deposed all day, all day, all day, a hundred percent nonstop. Yes. We need to branch out because what makes it so fascinating is like they have to be there. Yeah. They're forced to answer questions and that's a really interesting dynamic. But what I thought we would do today is we are going to go over. I actually intended to do a bunch of days, but it's just not possible. We're going over February 20th, 2020.

I'm Dan. This is 2020 and the reason for the reason for that is that that's the day that Roger changed. So it seems like it would be a good idea to see how Alex took the news. What was going on on his show on that day? I should say that I also prepared February 16th, which was Sunday's show, but we're not going to go over that. But I think that it bears mentioning something and that is that Max Kaiser, the guy of Max

coin. He was on and Alex endorsed Bitcoin. It's not to the extent that like, I don't know, some of these real serious, like, like a Max Kaiser, he's a very serious proponent of Bitcoin. Alex was having a conversation with him about it being gold 2.0 and there we go. Yeah. It was a much more full throated announcement than I've ever heard him give. He's always been very skeptical and suspicious of Bitcoin and it was.

We can't hold it in your hand. Yeah. I wanted to cover that or at least mention it because if you'd see some signs in the future of things related to that, it's good to know. Like, Oh, Max Kaiser was on the show and they, they talked about how great Bitcoin is. Everybody's got to get it. Somehow Alex is going to start his own Bitcoin exchange or something like that. Alex coin.

Yeah. Ooh, not good. So we're going to get into the 20th here. It's a rangy episode. There's a lot of real serious bullshit going on. But before we do, we got to take a moment to say thank you to some folks who signed up with the shoe and sporting things. So first Joseph, thank you so much.

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We would appreciate it. It'd be very helpful. So we start off the show on February 20th and of course we have advanced knowledge of this early because we're looking at it from the future. Right. So we know that Nazis have invaded France. Yes. So we know that Roger Stone has gotten 40 months.

The sentence was 40 months. Alex starts the show off with a prediction. He thinks the judge is going to throw the book at it. Okay. Swamp creature, Amy Berman Jackson, the Obamaoid. Hemorrhoid and black robes was always going to throw the book at Roger Stone because that's what she does as a political show trial commissar, a political creature of tyranny. Don't turn around.

R.X. Alon. Well, she just came out about 30 minutes ago before they went to recess and signaled she's going to throw the book at stone seven nine or 11 years to commissars in town. Oh, yeah. So Alex's prediction is a little bit off. He was a little bit off. Yeah.

So you should just go. You know, hey, look, not for nothing. Alex's instincts on a macro scale are bad and on a on a micro scale. They are also bad. Yeah. He is just really bad at just about all of this stuff every his sense of things. His instincts. So most of the beginning of this show, I would say a large portion of the beginning of this

show is Owen Shröyer is there at the courthouse waiting for the verdict. Great. And Alex and him they try and do a little bit of an interview where Alex is, you know, talking to Owen. What's it like on the ground, but Owen starts getting heckled by people. Completely deteriorate love it into it's one of the more surreal things I've heard and more transparently publicity stunty things I've seen Alex do in my time covering him. But we have a little bit of a section here where they're actually having a conversation

and Owen is out of line. They see a signal that she's about to come back from recess and throw the book at him. I predict she gives him seven years. She said, oh, it could be 11 to make it sound like she's lenient and gracious for giving him seven years. I'm predicting in the next hour, Owen Shröyer. Well, Alex, you know, it's, it's incredible too, because this is an obvious mistrial just based on the technicalities alone.

The jury was obviously corrupt. The jurors committed crimes and so many when they lied on the jury questionnaire about running for office and about posting publicly about this case. So, so Owen is talking about the jury for women to make a heart. Yes, become a bit of a target for right wing media and their desperate attempts to come with a reason for why Roger was found guilty and is going to prison. And it's because he committed the crimes. Well, that's what globalists say.

Oh, damn it. So always on a recent episode, we talked about how Mike Cernovich was pushing this theory that she had not disclosed that she'd run for office as a Democrat during the jury selection process. But as far as I can tell, this has not been proven in any way. All the proof Cernovich offers is the fact that she had run for office and that one of the questions potential jurors are asked is if they've ever run for office. This is not an indication that she lied in response to the question.

There's no proof that answering yes would be disqualifying. There's nothing here. All this amounts to is an argument that jurors are asked this question. She had run for office. She was on the jury. Therefore she must have lied about running for office. The logic is full of holes. And without any proof, this is just people talking shit.

Ms. Hart has been the target of such vitriol that a fellow juror named Seth Cousins came out and spoke with USA Today about how shitty this all is. He said, quote, the irony here is that Tamika Hart was perhaps the strongest advocate in the room for a rigorous process for the rights of the defendant and for making sure that we took it seriously and looked at each charge. Cousins went on to say, quote, without her in the room, we would have returned the same verdict and we would have returned it more quickly and without looking as deeply into the evidence.

I'm firmly convinced of that. Owen in the right wing media's theory that Ms. Hart lied when being questioned is based on nothing other than their supposition. You even heard that being echoed by Norm Pattis when he was on Alex's show last week. He hadn't even read the transcripts, but was saying if she'd not disclosed it, it would be a cause for concern. Yes. Well, guess what?

She didn't lie about it. There was an article in The Hill published on February 15th, which includes this line, quote, the brief examination of the voir dire hearing shows that Hart did disclose her ties to the Democratic Party. US District Judge Amy Berman Jackson asked if Hart's political history would prevent her from being fair and Hart assured her it would not. Most of the non shithead right wing propaganda sources I can find are really clear that Hart's background was brought up in her voir dire.

Her potential bias was established by that history and Rogers lawyers had every opportunity to question her and to eliminate her from the jury pool if they wanted to, which they didn't do. This is just sad shit. These people are so desperate to defend Roger that this is the level of defense they can come up with speculating wildly about a juror lying in a response to a question that turns out she answered honestly. Also, not for nothing.

What Owen is doing is directly accusing Hart of a crime with no evidence to support the accusations. This is dangerous territory for a guy working at a place that is drowning in defamation claims. Come on. What's one more? It's just another drop in the bucket. You would have thought that his time working with Roger on the war room would have trained him to be a little slicker.

Nope. That turns out. Can't can't copy that. Yeah, it turns out not the case. It's such like this is just like the baseline of any Democrat on any jury is impossible. That's exactly you're not allowed. If you're a Democrat, you're not allowed to judge anyone ever because you're evil automatically. That's the that's the functioning legal theory.

That's that's that's animating. Yeah, this rhetoric. It is. Democrats aren't people on Trump lovers. Can't judge Trump lovers. Exactly. It's a position of inability to see past political belief or whatever. Right.

That's dangerous. I mean, which only reveals that they are unable to see past that kind of situation or unwilling or unwilling. That's possible, but like that that's a dangerous road to go down. I mean, what you're asking for is essentially ending up with like a split judicial system for for people with different political beliefs. And I think that it's not that far off from what we have now. Well, it's just it would just not be based on race.

It would be in class. It would be fine. Yeah. So Alex wants to defend Roger and like, look, it's tough. It's tough because there's a lot of evidence that he did the things he's accused of. And some of those things are sending really threatening messages to Randy Krediko and Krediko said that he wasn't going to plead the fifth and he was going to talk to Mueller's investigators.

And you know, hey, when you make threats towards someone who's going to go testify, it kind of tends to lend the idea that you're trying to threaten them into not testifying. No, that's just how he signs off on all his texts. He's just like, hey, Ma, it's great to talk to you. Next time I see I'm going to murder your dog. Anyway, let's have a great time. It's interesting you bring up the dog thing because Alex, he actually has an explanation for that.

Oh no. That we're not considering. Okay. Jackson says it's nice that Krediko has forgiven stone and that he didn't believe that stone would really kill him or his dog. That says more about Krediko than it does stone, the judge says. By the way, stone was saying, I'll take that dog away from you. You're not feeding it enough.

According to stone, Krediko was having problems not attacking Krediko. Oh, all right, Alex. All right. Get the fuck out of here. That really surrounding context of Roger's threat to take that dog away from you seems to not support Alex's claim that he was set out of Roger's good hearty concern for the dog's diet. The techs say you're a rat.

You're a stoolie. You backstab your friends or what about the time just after threatening to take his dog away? He said quote. I'm so ready. Let's get it on. Prepare to die. Cock sucker.

All right. Okay. 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:42,520 Let's recontextualize it. Rat. You're a rat. That's what you've been feeding your dog. All right.

You've trained your dog. Exactly. On a stool. What is not feeding your dog correctly, but stabbing your dog in the back. It all makes perfect sense to me. That is shit, man. I could respect Alex saying that Roger talked shit to critical, but that it shouldn't matter. It's just locker room talk or something.

Yeah. At least that would be an attempt to spin this within the realm of reality. But this week shit, man. Alex really expects people to believe that Roger was concerned that Randy wasn't feeding his dog enough. It's always going to take the dog for its own good. That's sad. Yeah.

Alex should be ashamed of himself trying to pitch something like that. That's not good. Yeah. Yeah. Dick. Yeah. Yeah. And he says a few things that I find particularly unsettling.

I have been talking to credit code, but that's off record. Why have you been talking to Randy credit? Oh, I assume to interfere with another trial. I don't know. I mean, it's certainly not appropriate. The idea that a witness in Rogers trial would be having back channel communications about. I'm not actually sure if that is happening, but if it is, I just wanted to put this in

the episode that Alex is claiming. Yeah. Just in case it's illegal. It's now on the record. Alex has a claim that he's been in contact with a witness in stone structure. I mean, they've been texting him. Alex has been sending him dog food just of a higher quality. I think Alex is a great guy in this circumstance.

So Alex says that he's been in contact with credit code and like, that's not great. But then he says something else that's like, oh boy, this could be this could get weird. He got crosswise with stone bantering back and forth. I would tough guy talk and he now just thinks it's terrible. What's happening to stone? He says she doesn't care. And so look for him to be on the show today. What?

I expect the judge to throw Roger directly into jail today. Another bad prediction. And Randy Credico Alex is saying he's going to be on the show. He is not going to be on the Alex teases also throughout the rest of the show. We have a special guest coming up. He frequently while having Owen show your co-hosting with him remotely is like, I got to go call Randy Credico. Like he's he's making calls and like disappearing while Owen is on remote.

It's like, oh man, I wonder. I wonder if Randy Credico is going to show up on this episode. So Alex is more just harassing Randy to show up on possible based on what we're describing here. He also might just actually not be talking to him, but like talking to Roger's friends or like as Tyler Nixon, one of Roger's personal attorneys does show up. Okay, on this episode and it's the lamest shit. It's just like Roger's great. Oh, who among us hasn't fucked a rat?

So, you know, you get to you get this weirdness on info wars sometimes. Sometimes you just hear things and you're like, I don't know what the fuck is going on like when Troyer talks. So Alex is talking about how Trump is going to pardon Roger and that's great. Yeah, sure. Sure. In discussion of that, he talks about other pardons and you might be confused when you hear this. He pardoned or gave clemency cut the Senate's down. Blagojevic and Blagojevic was out in one hour and back on an airplane flying home to Chicago.

That's the power of the executive of we the people we elected the president. He wields our veto power over the witch judges over the out of control systems. So you might think it's weird to hear Alex be pretty okay with Trump pardoning notoriously corrupt former governor of Illinois, Rod Blagojevic. And he was a political prisoner. You'd be right to think that was weird. It is very weird on the surface. It seems like the thing Alex would be very opposed to Blago was a Democrat in the most corruptly Democratic state in the country. Part of the same machine that he thinks brought Barack Obama into the world.

Like this is not somebody who Alex would be pulling for, but you always have to remember that info wars is weird. Sometimes they have positions you wouldn't expect and that is the case with Rod Blagojevic. I would almost guarantee that if we went back to any time where Blagojevic was governor at some point, Alex would have talked endless amounts of shit about how he should be in jail. Well, possibly, but not after he got arrested. Because according to info wars lore, Blagojevic wasn't arrested because he was trying to profit off the filling of Obama's former Senate seat, among other flagrantly corrupt actions. He was taken down because he dared stand up to the Bank of America, which is of course part of the Federal Reserve System. And if you fuck with the Fed, you end up like Blago. This narrative is based on the fact that on December 8, 2008, Blagojevic restricted government agencies from working with Bank of America until they restored credit to the Republic windows and doors,

a factory in Illinois that had been put into bankruptcy and whose employees were staging a sit-in. The next day on December 9th, Blagojevic was arrested on his corruption charges. These things happened close to each other in time. Therefore, a causal relationship has been established, and therefore we know that Blagojevic was a good guy who was just trying to fight the Fed and got screwed. As always, on info wars, correlation not only equals causation, it doesn't even matter anyways. They're going to say whatever they want. The info wars narrative makes it sound like Blagojevic was trying to permanently sever relations between the state of Illinois and Bank of America, which is absolutely not the case. An article on info wars says that he made a quote declaration that Illinois would no longer deal with Bank of America, but that's just silly. It was a negotiation tactic he was using to try and save a factory where employees were protesting.

Articles from the time are really clear about this, like this one from December 8th in the state journal register. Quote, Governor Rod Blagojevic has ordered all state agencies to stop doing business with Bank of America to pressure the company to help workers who are staging a sit-in at a shuttered Chicago plant. Blagojevic says banks got bailout money and should provide lines of credit to businesses that need it so workers can keep working. The employees were staging a sit-in because they were informed that they were going out of business with no notice and they didn't receive pay or any benefits. Ultimately, Bank of America announced a settlement on December 10th where they would create a fund of $1.75 million to take care of the workers who were owed back pay, severance, vacation time, and what not. This achievement was possibly helped by Blagojevic's action, but in any way it was not infected at all by his arrest. The real win was because the workers stood their ground and because of the support of the Union Electrical Radio and Machine Workers of America Union. Anyway, Info Wars is super anti-union, so they don't tend to get into the details of the actual story.

Ooh, they don't want to do that. They prefer just to pretend that Blago exiled Bank of America from Illinois and then was arrested the next day because he was a threat to the Federal Reserve. This is how children tell stories, and that's the level of shit that we're dealing with. But it helps explain why Alex is really okay with Trump pardoning Blagojevic, which seems like something that would not make sense. No, it makes no sense. It's because deep Info Wars lore involving Blagojevic in Bank of America. That's insane to me. Yeah.

I didn't even realize that until I looked into it. Why? What? Why? Huh? I just don't understand. I don't understand. Also, I think it would be very funny if we woke up because there's a Bank of America near where we live. There's Bank of America everywhere. Everywhere. Just like walk down the street and it's shuttered with giant bloggers. Stopped us signs.

That'd be great. It's less about like kicking the Bank of America out. It's more like state agencies can't do business. Yeah. The chains would still be open. Yeah, sure. The ATMs. But anyway, it was all just a negotiation tactic to help workers that were hurt by the downturn in the economy.

The bailouts. I hate Info Wars. Yeah, I know. It's very simplistic stuff. I don't like them. No, they're not great. So anyway, Alex is cool with Blagojevic. Sure.

Another reason Chicago should hate Alex Jones. Yeah. So Owen's out there at the courthouse and up to this point it's been going okay. Alex and him have been talking about how Roger got screwed and Trump's gonna pardon him. Right. Right. And then the inevitable happens and other people get involved. Ooh, that's dangerous.

They're trying to harass me right now again. Let's talk to him. Let's go talk to him because I know somebody screamed at Roger that he was a traitor. He was convicted by 12 people for committing the crimes. Why? He didn't touch them. What? We had to cut the audio off.

They assaulted him. It's all in video. And then they said that he attacked them. They did have to cut because the guy said the F word. Yeah. Fuck you. Yeah. But I don't know.

I went and watched the video and I don't see what happened there. Like I don't I don't know if the like Owen was pushing this guy or the cameraman possibly pushed this guy. But the guy who says, you know, don't fucking push me. Yeah. That's what he says. I don't know. The video doesn't show that he wasn't pushed.

Right. I don't know what to make of this. But it seems like, hey, you know, maybe somebody bumped into somebody and everybody's getting mad at each other. Emotions are running high because the info horse is there and everybody is furious. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

So we get to this turning into publicity stunt. Of course. Out and out now. And Alex is just telling Owen what to do. He's like, he's like. He's a puppet master. Yes. Okay.

America's back. You better get used to it. Keep going on. Yeah. Yeah. You want to see a man go to jail? You celebrate like a Nazi. You come out here like a Nazi and celebrate an innocent man going to jail.

An innocent man. Ignore the rat people. Ignore the rat guy and go back to the media. Don't stop. Go back to the corrupt corporate media. Look at those. Look at those stooges waiting for their orders. See, there's a real fun.

I don't yet. Keep going. Oh, don't stop. There's a real delicious irony in Alex telling Owen to go yell at the media who are waiting on orders when he's giving Owen orders. Yeah, yeah. They're waiting for orders. I'm giving you orders.

We've got the initiative. On its face. It's a little like a World War two. Yeah. So this goes on quite a while. Oh boy. Yeah. Shame on you.

Tell them for me shame on you MSM. Let's be lost. Shame on you. With your shame. Sure. You come out here and demonize info wars, but all the mainstream news covered up pedophile rings. All the mainstream news covered up Jack.

Party. No, complacent and make fun of me, but I'm out here standing for truth. Tell them enf сложcom lives. Okay. All right, Alex, this is so weird. It is. It is like, you know, when somebody's got the ear piece and you clearly

know that they're getting instructions. And you, but you don't hear what's in the earpiece, right? You know, this is both happening at the same time and you're like, is this a joke? What's happening right now? Yeah. Am I psychic? It's the sort of thing that maybe what info wars should do from a

presentation aspect is just go to the video of all that would make sense. You know, it seems like showing both parts looks sad. A little bit because Alex is like too over eager to be out there but he's clearly like bummed out that. Oh, it isn't doing this exactly right. Like you can hear and be like, yeah, info wars.com lives. Get a plug.

Yeah. I'm seeing this and dad or whatever it is. People are looking at you. Get a fucking plug in and it gets so fucking obvious that that's what Alex is really trying to direct. Oh, and to do that one shroyer. Listen, you got a lot of cameras on you. Listen to me.

I'm going to go to break for three minutes. Oh, and you just keep going because you're on a bunch of those streams right now out there. You keep going for four minutes, three minutes. I'm from break. I'm going to ride to Owen shroyer, but keep letting him have it. It's too obvious when he's telling him like you got a bunch of cameras on you right now.

Fox News is covering you out there. Look, get in for war. His name out there. Look, dude, we're going to go to commercial, but you got to keep going. Oh, and you're doing great. You're doing great. You're getting the name out there.

Free press. Free press. Oh, and seriously, it's ridiculous. It does have a feel of like the of like dad being like, okay, no, you got to harness your anger though. I've been angry the whole time, but you can't let it get a hold of you. You got to make sure you're promoting while you're angry.

Get rid of the anger. It's fake. We're not trying to be angry. That is it. That is a slight piece of it too. The, the, uh, like he, Alex is trying to explain to Owen like, look, people are going to yell at you. Yes.

Ignore them. Ignore them. Yeah. Cameras. Focus cameras. Eyes on the prize. So they go to break and they, uh, they come back and it turns out that Owen, uh, he left that area and found another press gaggle.

Can't you get in there and let him have it? Oh, and Troyer live at the swamp, entering another press gaggle for radio listeners live feeds band on video. Oh, and you're, you're in charge trying to figure out where to go here. It's right in front of those cameras in front of those cameras. The cameras are what's important. This is sad.

God, he just have like levers and pulleys that it makes our Owen's arm go up and down. This is the way that monsters respond to things like this. Like he doesn't give a fuck. Like, I mean, obviously he wants Roger pardoned, but bigger situation is like, there's a lot of media on this. Yeah. This is a prime opportunity for info wars.

It feels like if this was Roger's funeral, he would be like, oh no, it's terrible. Roger. But what Roger would have wanted is for you to scream info wars at all the camp. Yes. That's what he would really have wanted you to do. Yes.

He was a soldier. This has done great job but it gave you a moment to dig them up. Right on. The member copy isotzia is reference tootle. Defending the subject, but the director changed their thoughts. Useless. And on this, you know,

weren't he inventions or something like that to escape fields, was just live on a moment ago. Let's cut to Fox News. Talking with his attorneys today. So what was the actual reaction when we found out it was three years and four months and not anywhere near the seven to nine years that originally had been prosecutor's recommendation? Well, his defense team breathed a sigh of relief.

Stone did not make much emotion from what I'm reading here. And, you know, it's also customary for the defendant, usually to speak before the judge, just before their sentence. He was given that opportunity today, but he declined. He said that he had nothing further to add. Roger Stone is not someone that shies away from comments or the camera, as we know. So it remains to be seen though,

if he'll say something when he leaves here. I suspect he'll probably still be under that gag order, because this is still an ongoing case. The judge still has jurisdiction. Yeah, don't you love it? Everybody else can talk, but the innocent person now given three plus years. So you have a situation where Alex started the show with his prediction

that he's going to get seven, nine, 11 years, and they're going to take him away in handcuffs. They're going to throw the book at him. All of this has not come true. He got little over three years. He's probably not going to serve, even if he doesn't get a pardon. He'll still only be in for like a year or whatever.

So that, that failed. He's like the globalist swamp who wants to destroy this man. That failed. He's going to be taken away in handcuffs. No, he wasn't. He's at home preparing to go to prison as we speak. So that prediction failed. So now what do you complain about gag order?

Great. Great. You have you. You just there's always something no matter what whatever prediction fails to materialize. There will be some way you can take the narrative. Yeah, that's all that's going on here. I have a question.

Great. I love questions. Alex can't possibly think he's innocent of the charges, right? So he has to think that what what Roger did wasn't illegal, or if it, or if it was, it shouldn't be, right? I don't know. I think, I think at that point when you're asking that, you're asking me to assume what's in Alex's head.

That's fair. That's why I don't believe that he can think that Roger didn't do the things that have been demonstrated that he did. It can't be possible. That seems difficult for me. Even Roger wouldn't tell him that he didn't do it, but then trying to trying to assume like whether he thinks that like he did those things and they shouldn't be illegal or they

are illegal, but it's cool because he did it for a good reason. Right. I have no idea. Those sorts of things. It seems difficult to believe like he didn't send those messages. Yeah. He didn't lie to investigators. Of course he did.

Right. And that's why all of the defenses end up being like, well, this juror lie. Yeah. Hey, why isn't Andrew McCabe in prison? Like, yeah, no one's disputing that he did this shit. Roger. Yeah.

Yeah. So Alex has now sent Owen out there to yell at these cameras and in that clip you heard he's throwing it to Fox News and he brings up Owen was just on the Fox News feed. Oh no. So there is an increased traffic to Alex's website and of course just naturally as we've seen whenever these things happen that are relevant to info wars world like Roger being sent to prison.

Yeah, people tune in info wars. He sees a big spike in traffic and he behaves exactly like you'd expect. Ladies and gentlemen, we have the immune gargles 16 ounce in the 3.4 and the one ounce of that is going to be selling out very, very soon. That is available. It has the nano patented silver.

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He does. There's a really long plug for stuff. And I think it's by and it's in the middle of the hour or two. Like it seems like very much like, okay, we've got eyes. We got eyes on this. Get to get a long plug in. So he does that goes out to break. Yeah.

And when he comes back, it's back to yelling at Owen about telling him what to do. Yep. This is a threat to America. Don't respond to the middle patients. Just put your information out. Russian collusion. Listen to the cult.

Don't respond to the cult. Overdrive them with the truth. Expose the Democrats in America. You're doing a bad job. Hey, no. This sounds so much like the next thing he's going to say is, all right, fine. Stop it.

I will be there in an hour. I'm getting in the teleporter. Yeah, exactly. He gave it to me. Better get rid of my med bed real quick. So this just goes on. He's just really mad that Owen won't like self promote while he's out there.

Jesus. Look at these pathetic Democrats that have come out here for their consolation prize, a kangaroo trial that totally exposes them. Oh, and they're destroying themselves. Everyone knows they hate America. Talk about being his co-host. The cameras are on you.

Tell them he's been gagged, but you haven't. Tell them that he's been gagged, but you haven't. They can still look at yours. They can still watch your show. He used to be your co-host. Absolutely. Get a fucking, fucking plug. If you want to support Roger, you better continue watching

the war room. Exactly. It wasn't a show. That's what he would want you to do. Yeah. That's what he would want you to do. So it's just so fucking clear that Owen's job is to get eyes on this on the product.

Yeah. Promote. Oh, it's got a zero piece back in. Oh, and we're live on here and doing a great job. Just ignore the cult members and just put out your message for all the cameras that are there. Talk about being his co-host, what it's like, you know, how this, just whatever you want to say, but you're there.

I wouldn't respond to the middle patients and it looks like they escaped from a mental institution. They're all weird old white people that look like they escaped from a mental institution. They've all been locked in a cellar with methamphetamine for 40 years. Sounds fun. Yes, Alex.

Clearly exhibiting cult behavior out here. I've never seen a better exhibition of cult behavior. Just chanting lies at me. See, that's all they can do is chant lies. So what? What have I said? I've said nothing that's a lie. But they get you to respond to them.

The cameras are all on you. Tell folks what happened to Roger. What have I said that's a lie? What have I said that's a lie? Anybody? He gets baited and I'm not mad at Owen. This is real TV and radio. He wants to try to humanize them and talk to them.

They don't talk to you. So you're in front of all the news cameras. Speak for Roger. He's been silenced. He's your co-host. Tell the people there. It's like I'm a ghost trying to talk to the living. This is what we like.

I'm like a ghost trying to influence someone. Like, you know, your child is using fentanyl. I'm a ghost. I saw it. Go take it away. It's under their bed and they don't hear me. Owen, speak to the news cameras about what happened to Roger. Ignore the Crip Keepers.

It's a very weird thing to warn your kid about fentanyl under its bed, especially if it's a ghost. I don't know. I'm going to leave that aside. So the primary issue here is that like the info wars correspondence who go out on the field have a brand. They have a specific thing that they're supposed to do and Owen is working across purposes.

He doesn't realize because I think he thinks that he's like a legitimate. Maybe he thinks he's good at what he does. I don't know. I don't know for whatever reason he sees like engaging with people who are telling him he's lying about stuff is a good play and it's not his brand is as like the guy like when he went and yelled at Jerry Nadler and got taken out and they got to pretend he was going to be in prison forever for yelling at the impeachment stuff.

That's his brand. Yep. He's a strong young man. He is not the person who maybe looks incapable of arguing with the crowd of people. Yes. Yeah. That is not good for Owen Schreuer.

Owen Schreuer's brand is the cook destroyer. Exactly. They need a they can't they can't do that in a live feed. They need those videos to be produced where he does actually run into somebody that he destroys and then you can package that and send it out. Great. Works for the brand. Right.

That's where Owen can get talk to random strangers. Right. In this case you just need him to be defiant of voice yelling truth to the cameras. Yeah. Cameras very important cameras. Yeah. The defiant is the defiant guy yelling at these cameras.

And when you try and get out of your lane a little bit it doesn't work for branding. It doesn't work for marketing. Stay in your fucking lane. Yell at the cameras. Alex keeps telling that to it keeps getting distracted by people who are just like you suck. Why is he an idiot?

Doesn't even have his earpiece. We're having to cut away from this. It's okay. It's just how it always works. You never engage the Crip Keepers. So that's that. No more coverage from Owen Schreuer got down by the Crip Keepers. They just they say something to him.

He's got to respond to him. And then that's the end of it. So do your own live feeds. Owen you're doing a great job. But you're out there in front of all the news cameras responding to Crip Keepers. And when you go over and try to talk to them they go F you we're not talking to you.

You know the response. I don't know why we're even there. You're in front of all the cameras. Talk about Roger your co-host. It's just so obvious. Man. When you like it's what you're saying. Like when you have both sides of the earpiece it's like it's so overt.

Like what you're trying to do. This is a stunt. This is publicity. Stop engaging. Do your job. Yeah. It's very sad. But Owen does manage to find one Roger supporter in the crowd.

But here who's this fellow right here with the Roger Stone giant banner pardon Roger Stone. Let's talk to him. Enrique Tario here just brought out the sign. What's up. What's up guys. What's up info wars. We're here.

So that's not a random Roger supporter who Owen found out there on the streets. That's Enrique Tario who's the chairman of the Proud Boys. Oh that's not good. No. So in case you're keeping score Alex is accusing all the people there like who are the people who are mad at Roger. Yes.

They're all astro turf and they're there for some nefarious unspecified purpose. Owen manages to find one person there who supports Roger and it happens to be the leader of a street gang that's associated with Roger who happens to own the t-shirt shop that sold the Roger Stone did nothing wrong. Sure. It seems like there's a whole lot of conflicts. Alex should be pointing out in relation to interviewing this person as

opposed to just presenting them as a random supporter of Roger. He's from the Heartland and right. He's a real American. Whatever. Yeah. Bullshit. So anyway Alex decides like hey Owen you found a guy who can talk. Go ahead.

Interview that guy. I'm going to take a take a break. So Owen talks to Enrique for a little bit. The Calvary is there. I don't know how much the president is aware of it or not. It's time for the Calvary to get into the battlefield. Yes. It's time for us to take Calvary's place.

We need to. We need to get off the couch. We need to. I'm a huge advocate and I've said it on your show before. I'm a huge. You've been on a show before. If you believe you want that change. Right.

Run for office. Just try it. Which you did. I did. I'm running in Georgia's twenty seven to be fresh. All right. We're about to take a break. So somehow the irony of this entire interview is lost on Owen.

He's talking to the leader of a street gang about how the Calvary is out there and needs to get more active. Cavalry. Yeah. I'm just using the words he used. It's legitimately nuts how these dudes insist on pretending that they're in any way journalists and in reality I mean Owen is operating as more or less like a PR firm for crypto monarchists.

Yeah. So Enrique Tario is running for a seat in the house as he mentioned in that clip there but there's literally no chance he's even going to make it through the primaries. However he did answer survey questions about his candidacy for ballot found some of it pretty illuminate. All right. For one he has a list of people that he admires and he looks up to and so you got

like Martin Luther King Jr. Winston Churchill the fuck out Ron Paul. Okay. We're all on there. But you know who else is on there. Jack Pasobak. Look I get. Hey maybe you like him. You do not admire him.

Zero. You know. Martin Luther King Winston Churchill. Jack Pasobak. You think we know which ones he actually cares about Martin Luther King Jr. Churchill the guy who pretended Comet ping pong pizza was scary. Exactly. Great.

So he was asked what media someone might take in to understand his philosophy and Tario's answer was quote the death of the West by Pat Buchanan and Atlas shrugged by Ayn Rand. Oh. So he's fun. Great. Yeah. Good.

That's a guy I want to talk to at a party Dan. I think I got a good sense of your philosophy. It's not good. So he was asked quote what do you perceive to be the U.S. is greatest challenges as a nation over the next decade. His answer was quote partisan division and the introduction of socialist policies in our government as to the partisan division. He's the leader of a right wing street gang and he was physically present at the unite

the right rally so he can straight up fuck himself on that count as for the socialist policies being a problem in the future. It makes me wonder if he's campaigning on getting rid of social security. I wonder if that whole like socialist policies thing is just a talking point and a fun word for him to say or if he's in favor of doing away with one of the most successful and popular programs in this country's history. I'm guessing it's the talking point. Yeah.

I'm going to go with that one. I also have a strong suspicion that Enrique Tario is running for office as a ploy to get back on Twitter and PayPal since if you were running for the house he could make an argument that he's being banned from those programs and platforms. It's a form of election meddling. Tommy Robinson and Sargon of a cod tried to make that argument when they ran with UKIP and I believe Laura Loomers made similar attempts to get back on social media. Whatever the motivation though this dude has no chance even in the GOP primary.

Yeah. It's all very dumb. What an asshole. So anyway do this interview and Alex comes back and he's just so pissed that he's not there. Oh and just for me tell him Alex Jones has a message to you. America is a wake to your anti-American scum. Roger Stone is innocent and will be pardoned. You are losers.

You have failed. We have a message from Alex Jones. Boo. You have lost. It's a real show of faith in your employees when you don't micromanage. A bad one. No it's a lack of a show of faith when you do micromanage when you have to guide all their decisions.

Really. This means you don't you know trust that you're they're able to do the job. And not just that but like God if you know you're going to get so many more viewers because of this stunt then as important as it is to try and sell there the other big perhaps the biggest thing you should be doing is putting on a fucking show that people are going to watch tomorrow. Right. You know like put on a show and people are like oh shit yeah I want to continue watching

this. I think Alex kind of knows on some level that like he's going to get whatever maintenance or like retain viewers. He's he's going to get it's more important to do a smash and grab robbery as opposed to a confidence scam. That's just people are going to see through it. That's fair. It's just just take take the money and run.

Yeah he's a bad combat. That's fair. So he's done with Owen now and we get to actually like the show and we get some headlines. Of course we're going to end up getting into the coronavirus news but he has some other stuff to talk about. Now the ADL says that Senator Ted Cruz is anti-Semitic for criticizing Bloomberg. When it's the ADL constantly injecting Judaism into things and saying have you proposed anybody that's Jewish that you're a you're a Nazi.

Really. Pretty amazing. That's coming up as well. Very very sad to see the ADL try to promote anti-Semitism because that is what they're doing trying to make everything about if somebody's Jewish or not. I don't think we're making that an issue about Bloomberg. But he's a globalist. Oh I see.

Good good good stuff there. I don't think you're helping yourself at the end but whatever. Alex has taken it real hard to Bloomberg and it's really interesting because on the 16th the Sunday episode that I listened to a lot of that was anti-Bloomberg stuff and I think Alex is maybe getting into the possibility that Bloomberg is going to be the candidate and really going hard at him. Yeah. I think it's super fascinating is like the critiques that I see from the left are more

real than Alex is. But Alex can't make those critiques. No he's in favor of stop and frisk. Absolute favor of red lining loves it. So all he could do is be like I want to run your life. Soda taxes. Oh no not soda taxes. Oh no which I mean there's a conversation to be had there and that's all good and well

but like I think the actual harder criticisms are surrounding his history of racist policies. His personal racism transphobia homophobia these things are far more salient points to make about him but Alex can't. It's interesting to see him attacking Bloomberg but like being far more impotent in it than the people who he thinks are globalists. Yeah it is. It must be a struggle because when you're looking at Bloomberg next to Trump you're like his real decision is just like well Trump's a bigger asshole and he's louder.

Right. That's different. Right. That's it. That's the the the selling point. Yeah exactly. Yeah. Yeah it's tough.

That's the other thing too is like you can't make too many complaints about Bloomberg. If you're Alex because you support some of the stuff that is bad about it. Oh he's got a history of sexual harassment. Well see that's the other thing. A lot of the other complaints you could rise bring up points about Trump that you don't want to discuss. Yeah. There isn't a very weird pickle there about attacking Bloomberg.

Yeah. Whatever. Anyway the ADL critique Ted Cruz for tweeting out a suggestion that Mike Bloomberg quote owns the media which of course is a classical element of anti-Semitic rhetoric and conspiracy theory. Right. In this case it's kind of a tightrope act that needs to be walked if you don't want to fall into that pit.

Yeah. Because Mike Bloomberg obviously does own some media like Bloomberg in a sense. He does own a party of media. Yeah. I don't think that anyone would get too upset if you want to discuss how the fact that he does personally own actual outlets like Bloomberg how that could have an actual effect on the coverage coming out of them. It's a really hard thing for me to believe that people who work at Bloomberg feel completely

free to cover Mike Bloomberg from an unbiased perspective. That's an acceptable thing to voice concerns about. But what Ted Cruz was doing was suggesting that Bloomberg owned the media not specific outlets. This plays into the narratives that have deeply anti-Semitic roots and an organization like ADL exists in part to point these things out. Not to call Ted Cruz an anti-Semite but to take advantage of a teachable moment where people could learn to express things better and not fall into these traps that have been

used historically for nefarious purposes. Yeah. Absolutely. I think that you know you just see backlash about it by people like Alex and wonder why. I mean that is such just like if Ted Cruz said Bloomberg owns a media outlet that is a damning indictment. Like you should not also own a you shouldn't own anything if you're going to be a president. That's that's wrong.

And I don't know. I don't know if he had more. Wrong. I don't know if he had more comments than just the tweet about it. But I think that the tweet that Ted Cruz made probably was closer to pointing out the ownership of Bloomberg than it was to say he owns the entire but the phrasing of it and the way it was expressed was not great. Yeah.

And it's a sort of thing where it's like yeah no one's saying you hate Jews. Yeah. It's saying that yeah this is not the way to express that anyway. Now we get to some coronavirus stuff. This is dumb. God it's gotten to the point where I wish they would solve the coronavirus issue just for me. Just so I don't have to hear Alex talk about it for our audience there's breaking news.

There's a cruise ship where a bunch of people have been quarantined a diamond princess. And Alex has some updates on the shift gears when we come back into the huge coronavirus developments it's killing people on the cruise ships now multiple cruise ships people are dying. That means it isn't hype. It is killing people and it's spreading very fast. So here's some information that Alex will absolutely never tell his audience about the two people who died on the diamond princess cruise ship that's quarantined off the coast

of Japan. One was an 87 year old man who had a history of bronchial asthma. The other was an 84 year old woman who also had an unspecified pre-existing condition. These deaths are very sad and I don't mean to minimize them but demographically they are the sort of people you would expect to see dying from a virus like this. People in this cohort are the sort of people you expect to see dying of normal flues every year. There's just no way around it.

People over the age of 80 with underlying medical conditions are at a much greater risk from things like this than a healthy 30 or 40 year old person is. Unfortunately the cruise ship evokes all sorts of mental images that Alex can use to sell more fear about the virus. People are trapped on that boat. They're running out of food. No one's getting that off. In reality there are about 620 people who have tested positive on that boat who are

quarantined out of the original 3700 who were on the cruise. The rest of those people they were quarantined for the 14 days that they needed to be for examination and then they were released and sent on their way. It's not an ideal situation and it probably sucks to be quarantined anywhere but honestly I would assume a luxury cruise boat is not the worst place ever to be stuck. Yeah I mean it's a lot better than the plague ships. You think they get to use the pool. Well I mean if it's just them left ship why not yeah I wondered about that then I wondered

if it's bad taste for me to wonder about it. I'd be swimming I definitely wouldn't be eating the shrimp anymore. That's just a rule probably. So we got a situation now where Alex rambles about that a bit and who cares he's just full of shit but he comes back from break to the song breaking the law breaking the law breaking the law. No I don't know what he's talking about in this clip. It's a little bit longer but it's one of his where he turns the song into part of his

rant like pieces of this. He tries to time it for the choruses and stuff like his professional rambling skills are on. This is convoluted. If you can make sense of this I would appreciate it because I fucking can't do my back. So I might as well put some action in my life that's down to the near civilization burns away is when tyrants get rid of chivalry leaving people that came before him or whims and all these checks and balances in place they didn't do all these hard mean things they didn't lie

they didn't cheat they didn't steal they didn't persecute people they didn't intimidate they must have been idiots. No they always came out of long bloody decades sometimes centuries of millions dead and hell on earth and they promised never to do it again by breaking the law breaking the law. Breaking the law of common sense it isn't weaklings that follow chivalry it's those that know the dark side and seek to bound it and change show that we might live as freemen and women and not live under conquest and tyranny not to see the burned cities and destroyed

fields and farms laid to waste and the rape and the repine and evil turned loose but to empower the great spirit of human ingenuity and freedom by passing limited laws to tie down the tyrant and empower the family and the individual and those that love god but the tyrants and the control freaks of the satanists continue to break the law god's law common sense natural law everything they do is about saying men or women and women or men and god doesn't exist and there is no right or wrong listen to their song breaking the law breaking the law breaking the law breaking the law breaking the law breaking the law breaking the law all right now we're getting to do it breaking the law breaking the law breaking the law breaking

the law breaking the law breaking the law Tyler Nixon uh right that fellow journalist army officer veteran and lawyer obviously you can't talk about okay that'd be quite an intro that is that is all the interview with Tyler Nixon's uh like lead up if that's the ramp into the interview you gotta be like oh yeah i'm coming in i'm coming in hot i really i don't really know exactly what he was getting at but i think he felt it yeah no no he got the spirit i i guess i it's not shivery like holding doors for ladies he's talking about it like in the night yeah kind of way like rules for nights right but i think we're i think we're jumping on who which side is breaking the law very very liberally

like because at some point he's saying that the tyrants are defeated by people who break the law because the tyrants instituted a law that sometimes you have to right exactly break of the law but then we have to make limited laws right to rein in the tyrants right which those laws are not weakness right their strength but the tyrant thinks the laws are weakness therefore tyrant breaks laws therefore i must break laws wait but who's the one who's good at breaking the laws in this circumstance i really don't know i think he lost the thread maybe at the beginning i would say at the beginning i would say the moment he started screaming breaking the law he was like i am loving this chorus love it i gotta try and work it in there and then he's like wait no i'm like my guy

is now the one making the laws i'm not i don't want to break the laws i'm not positive that this requires a ton of analysis outside of just like i think like this is something i like to bring to the people because it you know lately there have been more of these like full songs sure sure yeah yeah these sort of lectures over and it's the only time that you really feel passionate from him and it's it's kind of nice to see him alive a little bit even if it's incoherent it makes no sense anyway um he talks to tyler nixon and like i said i don't really care i mean it's not in my interest at all to listen to roger's friend be like roger got screwed i do like that immediately after playing breaking the law you're like now we're going to talk to a lawyer who's here to talk

about roger breaking the law okay okay so he gets done with talking to tyler nixon it's not a very long interview and alex finds himself in a pickle and that is that there is news about the coronavirus that he's got to cover it's so big jeez it's such big news i'm tired of this but he can't he can't do it why not well he'll tell you covering something this horrible covering something this crazy covering something this serious just mixed in with everything else we're covering doesn't feel right i mean i look at the numbers i look at the viruses i look at the scientific papers i look at the reports and and i just pull back and go i got up at 5 30 in the morning this morning and i did about an hour of research for my

children woke up before i made them breakfast are you dead on what i was sitting there reading these scientific reports i'm going to show you what you want prestigious groups and double checking at all before i came on air double checking and there's just some type of double compulsion because i'm not somebody that wants to cover stuff up but it's kind of like the military when it's got to go to your door and tell you your son just got killed this is not an enjoyable job and i'm already gonna tell you your son gonna kill me here but i'm ashamed and i don't blame trump he he doesn't know who he's hiring or what he's doing

i would do this level but then when i discover all this then i want to research every point of it so i can get it exactly right because i don't want to make a mistake for you the level is just lie all they want that must be so easy you just do whatever you want i'm like studying hours just getting heads trying to like and i'm calling a virologist and experts and and affirming that i'm correct calling a virologist alex so this is not some dramatic flourish here it is it is absolutely that's actually it's above my pay grade that's true that is i think i've just said it i and i'm not copping out it's not that i can't cover it you're sold out i mean i spent an hour

this morning looking at this again and all the countless shows you've seen with experts and then i spent more time before the show and i just i just don't feel confident talking about this because i might make a mistake this is weird and it goes on forever um and uh you know there is a story that he's trying to get to yeah and he does blurt it out but it's i mean it's all in service of what the end goal is and we all know what that end goal is oh yeah and you'll hear just a moment under obama homeland security sold the chinese virus and i even found mainstream news five years ago saying it worried about it the scientist that's one of the biggest scientific publications out there and then i read that and then i found all the papers

and i'm just like i'm not a violent person whoa but coming on air and just talking about this is not a normal response and i'm not calling for violence i'm just saying as a father and as a human being at a certain point things are so horrible that you just can't make it one more footnote it's like so bad that i need to really muster my full will and really do some planning on how i talk about this there i've said it i just didn't you always i just can't cover this isn't that what doing all that research you heard boil on yesterday and i went and did a bunch of research he's dead on really and then i'm like why the hell is our government doing this i know trump didn't do this

then but the guy he's got running n i h was involved in it at the time say your boy flouchy and i'm just like they're crazy people and they're violent by producing this they are attacking us and so as a man i become a sellout in the wimp if i don't tell people that folks doing this are violent towards everybody and are the same as terrorists are worse running around with suicide vest or flying airplanes into buildings which was a false flag according to you yeah they didn't fly planes to build something just to bitch about on air this becomes something of ultimatums to the president i mean i i i don't know really but obviously someone knew the u.s. government did this and the chai comes on purpose took to embarrass

trump now that they know they had this and that there's some big stuff going on here and so that's why i'm i don't want to say i'm shaking i i'm just it's so big i don't want to go off half cocked because i'm a decisive person i'll take action all day long i just i'm still got the wheels turning and i'm trying to figure out exactly what i should do i just want to beg listeners of viewers please keep us on air they're trying to shut us down so that nobody can challenge what they're doing god damn you nobody can bring up what's happening i ask you jordan who if not everyone could have seen it coming that alex's very sincere flustered tone about the coronavirus news was all just a lead into a plea for money if i'm being honest i think that alex knows that the

products he has to sell the relate to the outbreak are kind of sold out and he's made a bunch of money off this there's no real financial bottom line in it for him to cover the virus news from a healthier standpoint so his coverage in the future is probably going to lean more towards the political intrigue as we see kind of happening here yeah this article that he's talking about in the scientist that alex referenced in that clip has nothing to do with obama selling a virus to the chinese government it's about a guy named ralph barrick who's an infectious disease researcher at u n c chapel hill creating a chimeric coronavirus for research purposes which uh it kicked off a debate about how that probably wasn't worth the risk involved yeah it's a debate that goes on within

the scientific community right right right this very article says that the u.s government halted all financial uh funding from the federal level for research like this what's known as quote gain of function studies as it relates to influenza sars and mers put simply that refers to adding a the function of the pathogen you're not giving it an added function yeah in order to better understand its interaction with the world and its hosts it's long been a hotly debated question if these sorts of studies are ethical given the potential downsides that they have are practically incalculable what i want to do guys and hear me out give me some money for this i want to make sure that smallpox is 100 fatal in order to study how fatal it would be

if we released it into the greater population i don't think this is a bad idea give me one bad reason you have a that's a farcical take on what these studies are but i mean yeah i mean it's add add something to this uh on a genetic level in order to uh test it so in 2015 the scientists published an article about this guy at u n c chapel hill who did a gain of function study on a corona virus but it's definitely not the same virus that's currently breaking out from china this article is not a study though it does involve a study conducted by ralph barrick and there's no chance that alex read that study and even if he did it has nothing to do with the current situation that legitimately seems like it's alex's only primary source on this and nothing

in there says or even implies that obama or homeland security sold the virus to china in fact it explicitly says that no federal funding went to that study nor any uh like it for at least the two years prior so obama had even less to do with this alex has had his fun with the public health panic sales drive but his heart isn't in it anymore so he doesn't quite know where to go with things the natural choice is to make it a political thriller but i think he also realizes that he can't pull that off without totally saying that trump is complicit with releasing a bio weapon on innocent civilians so he's kind of in a tough spot he's in a bit of a bind here yeah and that leads him to just like cover this on a very surface level but with his like i can't i can't

tell this i can't i can't cover this i'm gonna go off half cocked oh man i was cooked up by homeland security under obama according to the scientist lab may chronovirus triggers debate the creation of camira sars like virus has scientists discussing the risk of gain of function and you read the article it's the exact weird virus popped up the bill and melinda gates have now patented oh really it's all hidden in plain view and i've got all the papers this clip came at the end of like 10 additional minutes of alex being real insecure about how he can't cover the virus news sure and the approximately half an hour of his show he dedicated to talking about how he can't talk about the virus news for fear of making a mistake he could have easily covered

whatever story he thinks is the big scoop this is performance alex is playing the role of the student who forgot to do their fucking homework and it really shows in that clip we just heard there's absolutely no depth there at all you just hear alex grasping at straws to try and make this somehow sound researched the headline about the lab made virus causing debate is not about obama or the department of homeland security making a virus it was that researcher at u n c chapel hill and the debate was in the scientific community he's completely misrepresenting that source instance of alex not knowing what he's talking about number one alex says that if you read the article it's just the same exact coronavirus that popped up in december in china this is not true

he's making that up instance of alex not knowing what he's talking about number two then alex tries to say that this virus from the 2015 article is the same one that the gates foundation has a patent for it wasn't the gates foundation it was the pure bright institute and it wasn't a patent on a corona virus it was a vaccine for chickens and it wasn't identical to the virus mentioned in the article in the scientist sure instances of alex not knowing what he's talking about numbers three four in five yep that clip is less than 30 seconds long and alex reveals clearly that he has no idea what he's talking about five times this is why he does 30 minutes on his show about how he can't cover the news because he knows his shit's weak there's a whole lot of nothing here but you can

make nothing look like something with theatrics like this the article in the scientist is a complete zero in terms of alex's narratives but if he can completely act fucked up about it on air like he can't do his job because the news is so big that passion will sell the weak shit to his audience without him even trying to engage with what's in the article or the study i'm not trying to sit here and pretend that alex is some kind of like he's a conniving genius but he does things for a reason he absolutely wouldn't have a job if his audience stopped for a second to ask themselves why he's doing the things he's doing every now and again like that's weird why are you behaving like that yeah oh that's why you're just trying to trying to guild the lily i hate being guess

so much especially when it comes to this because it's like i we do the show i see you do hours upon hours upon hours of research and it sounds like the way you talk i don't do any research and that sounds far more similar to the way alex talks right now doesn't that make sense there and you're sometimes wrong and i can point out generally like because you did all the research and even the stuff that i can do is imperfect like yeah i'm i'm wrong every now and again and you know we we certainly try our best to cop to that and and in situations of particularly surrounding like the fine points of the law and science yeah those are two areas where you know i have to wear my inability on my sleeve like those are not subjects that i'm well equipped in sometimes

i can read stuff over and get a good sense of it sometimes like today i can't i actually consult a specialist to get to the bottom of some of the stuff that we're going to end up discussing all right but it's it's important to like to recognize that like yes the way alex speaks about these things is indicative of someone who doesn't know what he's talking about and all you need to do is listen to someone who knows what they're talking about exactly and that's not necessarily me all the time but the difference between let's say an expert and an info wars expert it's a wide cab there's a big big gap there yes it reminds me so the way that he's doing this the way that he's selling this stuff reminds me so much of like i was i remember

working with one of the one of those road hack headliners at at the club in aurora and i could not understand why this guy was fucking killing because he was garbage and then after one of the shows he's just he came up to me was like you know what your problem is you're not selling your jokes man you got to really sell them even if they're weak if you sell the jokes right you can get a lot out of it yeah i was like oh yeah that makes sense yeah it's 90 facade yeah ten percent substance maybe and sometimes not even that what are you doing trying to write jokes stop it yeah fool yeah do you want to life being a yeah exactly do you want this glamour his life yeah and sell your jokes so alex has decided that the u.s sold the virus to china and he has an agenda he thinks

he's figured out why but he's oh he doesn't know and that's why you need to fund info wars of course so they can stay on air long enough to figure this out i guess this is so stupid it is offensively stupid why would the u.s sell this to the chai comms and then five years later it's released close to the chai comms and crack down and take over taiwan this is big is what i'm saying it's big and and i don't know exactly what's going on but man this is the big enchilada that's all i'm saying and so my brain is like a computer like thinking that hasn't popped out the answers yet and my my my gut my spirit my brain's never wrong yours is always yeah there is that till it's it's it's it's it's there but this is bad this is bad

this is bad this is bad is it bad this is bad how is it it's bad okay um yeah so his working theory is that the lockdown of huhan is just to set the stage for taking over taiwan i don't know anyway what your hand is up it's to set the stage for taking for china taking taiwan or the united states taking taiwan china taking it look dude i'm not i'm sorry i'm sorry i'm getting bogged down in the wrong details everything's very convoluted apologies some of it might become a little clearer as we go along with some of it absolutely want some of it is just nonsensical breaking the law so um we we learned something here for a while alex has been pushing this narrative that the canadian lab the one in winnipeg is the source of the stuff because there was

those two chinese right folks who were expelled from the lab uh turns out that might not be true so they're just introducing us to the new aids of the new millennium and this isn't just going to be old people that have anal sex or whatever or use needles this is something that's going to kill you and your family and make you have a heart attack and make your lungs bleed out and it totally sucks and so that's why metaphysically we all are concerned because we know oh this this is big it is big and it was produced in the united states not canada that was all put out as this information sure and they even hid the damn thing in plain sight oh shit it turns out the canada stuff was misinformation that's wild because i heard a ton of coverage about how the virus was

stolen from that lab in winnipeg on alex's show from alex and his trusted experts like the health ranger mike adams but i can't possibly be the case because alex's gut is never wrong he's right 99% of the time so there's no way you would have spent a ridiculous amount of time on his show trying to spread conspiracy theories about that lab in the past oh no it's misinformation uh no he said disinformation dan that means that it was targeted and it was on purpose so it's not his fault that he got it wrong wait it is tricked him it is okay well yeah his gut is wrong now you may say that right but his gut was telling him not to go with it but he went ahead with it anyways because the health ranger here's the thing he was in the long distant past though like he got tricked by

that but he's you know that's true yeah but like he's contrite yeah i mean like it's not like he was saying that shit in february 16th which was last sunday i don't know let's listen to a little bit of that i mean i i gotta go to mike adams and stop just reading all these headlines everything mike said two three weeks ago is an outcome trick like what it's over for humanity there will only be loan survivors all right fine that one that one you served up on platter yeah i might have played that first clip only as an excuse to keep the streak alive of mike's apocalypse prediction so here we have on thursday we have alex saying that the canada stuff is just misinformation but on sunday here is what he was saying i agree with you now my assessment has changed in the last

week i i believe this was also a deliberate release so that's interesting just said that it's under for humanity and it was introduced possibly by an agent working in that virology lab in uhan but it was oh yeah i forgot now now the scientists reportedly stole it from canada it is dead yeah and a bunch of other people are getting killed i'm sorry there's just so many angles here so oh so many so on sunday we've got alex talking about the guy who ran that canada lab being killed he was killed he's dead so this is a conspiracy theory about that canadian lab where the two chinese people were taken out of the lab back in july that was dr q and her husband kiding cheng now if you come to the present day ctv news reported back on february 4th that a man named

frank plumber the former head of the national microbiology lab which is the lab in winnipeg had passed away at the age of 67 this is a very sad story but if you actually read articles about his passing it doesn't look like this was a murder or even suspicious which alex is definitely trying to imply from that ctv news article quote in december and december plumber shared details of his personal battle with alcohol use disorder after undergoing experimental brain treatment to treat it he told ctv news how using alcohol to relax after work progressed to a habit that saw him drinking up to 20 ounces of whiskey a night leading to cirrhosis and end stage liver disease diagnosis in 2012 citing the stress of responding to pandemics he said that he was unable to stop

himself from returning to alcohol after a 2014 liver transplant he ended up getting that experimental procedure done that was it what it did is it implanted electrodes in his brain and it turns out that that did have some positive effect on his desire to drink that said he'd clearly was the kind of drinker who would have done serious damage to his body by that point so it's good that you can stop drinking but you'd already had cirrhosis and a liver transplant and kept drinking it's very very sad it's true that plumber was the head of the same lab that these two chinese scientists are removed from but plumber couldn't have had anything to do with that situation since he left his position in 2014 citing personal reasons most likely the severe alcoholism yeah this is

sloppy shit on alex's part and a deep disrespect to dr plumber's passing from everything i can tell you is a fantastic researcher who struggled with some heavy demons only to get his life back on track which is inspirational and also tragic yeah conspiracies don't care about people people are things mere props to be used to make narratives sound more convincing to the audience who are also people who don't matter to the conspiracy the people listening they too are just props to spread the narratives this is all very disgusting and it's for all alex's talk about like all these dehumanizing aspects of the globalists yeah would take a second to think about him treating this doctor's death as a mere prop to be thrown out to support the narrative that the virus was stolen

from this lab in winnipeg which he's now saying is misinformation a mere couple days later this is what it takes to be an info wars believer to take this show seriously you have to believe that a guy who tries to use a doctor's death to prop up a conspiracy on sunday uh then is you know he says that all that canadian lab stuff was misinformation on thursday you have to believe that that guy is a good source of information and someone you should trust yep so yeah it reminds me when shroyer is like look at all this cult behavior all i'm doing is taking direct orders from a guy who says he's right 100 percent of the time and is the only one who can save us from the tyranny there the cult members right yeah so we get back to i just want to take a little diversion there to hear

the it's a little bit of that from sunday to be like you were just talking about the canadian lab stuff go fuck yourself with this oh it's all misinformation 100 but i was wondering like why and actually the or what change what ended up uh changing and it relates a little bit to that article in the scientist and also i got a way in by way of the headline that alex reads here on a back on the february 20th smoking gun china bought weaponized wuhan virus from us so that's just a headline that alex is reading but he never gets to the contents of that article that's probably because the article doesn't have anything in it for him to read it's just an info or his article with an embedded video of yet another stupid interview he did with francis boil

that's can he's just reporting on his own interview just reading the headline i really don't think that's okay it's dumb and i'll explain the main argument of it here in a second but first i wanted to play you this intro for that video uh that's in that article uh that i find very hilarious they admit they did this you've reverse engineered an incredible job do you think it was done on purpose then who stands to gain key bono as a law professor who's who would do this who stands to gain the clip of alex talking is the cold open of the clip but hilariously the way the video is edited it kind of sounds like he's asking who gains from all this coronavirus business and then a band out video if that's some editor fucking around and trying to make fun of

alex's completely disgraceful behavior over the last month or so it's one of the best jokes i've seen on this show in a while and if it's not and it's just someone doing a straight editing job they're subconscious might be trying to tell them something yeah yeah yeah as for the smoking gun that's just francis boil pretending to be a science expert here he is laying it out in this next clip the uh uh smoking gun here is on uh page 11 near the uh bottom the last full paragraph from the bottom where it says may provide a gain of function to the coronavirus for efficient spreading in the human population so explain what that gain of function means because not all of us are experts on this like you doctor right well gain of fun now what oh so let me repeat

uh uh uh alex as i've told you before gain of function technology is dna genetic engineering of uh dangerous biological warfare uh substances to begin with it's a sweeping up of of already bad pathogens right it's a it's a turbo charging and gain of function work can only be done safely in a bsl4 or a bsl3 facility so i think clearly this is the smoking gun that the wuhan coronavirus came out of that bsl4 uh facility so francis boil has found the words gain of function in a study posted on science direct about the 2019 coronavirus which is ultimately going to be connected to that 2015 article from the scientist about a gain of function study on the coronavirus on a coronavirus excuse me thus these two must be the same thing and that study in 2015 was clearly the cover for

the creation of the virus that is now in outbreak i can see how this game is probably super fun to play you just find words and then yell about them but this is really stupid francis boil is a lawyer he has absolutely no background in science and he really should not be offering opinions about this because when he suggests that there being a gain of function in the 2019 coronavirus that's a smoking gun proof that it was engineered as a bio weapon sounds like a fucking dumb dumb gain of function studies are studies where pathogens are given other properties to test their responses but that's not the only use of the word this is really indicative of boil not even doing basic research on the topic because if he had he could have learned very quickly that gain of function

is a category of mutation that happens naturally as is loss of function when that science direct article is talking about there being a possible gain of function in the 2019 coronavirus that you know that makes it more spreadable it's talking about natural mutation that that could set it apart from other viruses in its clade this is a little bit outside my pay grade from my science perspective so i consulted with an expert on these matters who made me insist that i not call him our health ranger as it was explained to me this 2015 study was looking at SARS and was based on a prediction that in the future viruses like it would become less picky about ace to cleavage and to study that they augmented an existed existing SARS like virus in a way that would make it more readily cleaved

by an ace to receptor the goal was to evaluate the risks of other coronaviruses that were circulating in bat populations and what we needed to prepare for if this mutation to ace to receptivity did happen if we saw that gotcha gotcha conversely the 2019 paper is a now is an analysis of the current coronavirus which found that there is a mutation that has occurred that allows the virus to cleave with furion sites which is intrinsically different than the work that they were doing in that 2015 study in effect the finding of the 2019 paper invalidates the hypothesis of the 2015 study which is to say that the prior study predicted that future SARS like viruses would affect humans due to changes in ace to receptor cleavage whereas this paper is asserting that that was

incorrect and that the actually actually the current coronavirus is possibly as widespread as it is because it bypasses the difficulty of ace to cleavage all together going the furion route instead while this has some scary implications in as much as furion cleavage is a simpler process and could make this virus much easier for people to get it's not all bad news if it this is in case it this is the fact how the 2019 coronavirus is taken in by the body there are already a ton of treatments and preventative drugs that could be effective against furion cleavage this essentially opens up a ton of options for medical treatment if this paper is shown to be perfectly correct all right i have no business discussing the nitty gritty of this hardcore

science stuff so to put it simply these two papers are nowhere near about the same thing even if the 2015 study were proof of the creation of a deadly bio weapon it still could not possibly be the same virus as the 2019 coronavirus since the changes to ace to cleavage in that study have literally nothing to do with the furion cleavage which is the discussion about the current virus they're two completely different things whatever gain of function was being discussed in that umc chapel hill thing is fundamentally intrinsically different than whatever mutation is being discussed just because those same words are there right that's the connection that's being made okay that's why you don't listen to frances boil right about science related issues all right

so if i understand this correctly based on what you've just described to me the 2015 paper is talking about ace to cleavage which is something that is less common and something that we're not as prepared for so he so the the study there was trying to figure out if this is the way that it mutates then we need to be able to prepare for ace to cleavage the and then the 2019 the ace to cleaving in the sites is the way it was described to me it's very finicky between populations yeah so like something that would bind to uh or not the binding is simple but the cleaving is not right so it would something that would be taken in by ace to receptors in a bat let's say is not the same as would be taken in by humans through the ace to receptors right so there is differences there

that cause an inability for one thing to affect different animal populations okay so the study that they were doing is testing if though it was easier could humans be susceptible to other coronaviruses that were traveling in bat communities gotcha now all of that is irrelevant to the mutation that's being discussed in this 2019 paper or i guess it was just recent so it's 2020 paper sure sure sure so yeah i got it and a real scientist would know the difference and they would never behave like this yeah they wouldn't go on alex's show and help him misinform people about an active public health health crisis this is just depressingly bad gotcha or maybe maybe jordan i'm being a real prick and there's something more to this theory

maybe boil clicked on all the authors in the uh 2015 paper all their names maybe you found something suspicious and it has all these people there uh from the university of north clare liner at chair hill it has someone from the food and drug administration so it's just the food and drug administration and then at the very bottom of the list uh who is involved uh obama jen lee lee she key laboratory of special pathogens and biosafety wuhan institute of virology chinese academy of sciences wuhan china done done done clear to me that this uh uh scientists from the wuhan institute of virology uh got this gain of function technology for sars from this university of north carolina lab no this is very interesting though i'm not sure it proves that the scientist

from the wuhan institute of virology got some super virus from this study which is ridiculous bullshit it's like a movie you know if you actually read a study you can learn what individual contributors did for the study it's in the contribution no you can't no you can't they just list the authors no move on jen lee lee she provided some materials that were needed namely the sequences of the corona virus that they were studying so it's less a matter of the wuhan lab getting something from his experiment as much as it was providing it that's why they got a credit on the final study only are they wrong they're wrong in an 180 degrees seems like it god damn it i hate them and guess what francis boyle did such a lazy job of reading the study that he completely

missed that there was a second person on it from wuhan involved jing yi ji was also an author on the study and boyle doesn't seem to realize that also if he's going to say that anyone on this study is automatically somehow suspicious why is he leaving off of another author that was named uh was antonio lens of itia who's uh from the institute of research and biomedicine in zurek switzerland shouldn't that be a sounding off an alarm on absolutely he's from zurek the swiss the swiss are coming it's not because i'm certain that francis boyle didn't uncover this study he just found it on a dumb conspiracy website and he's regurgitating it for alex's audience lending it credibility by virtue of his position as this guy who

wrote a law great this has all the fingerprints of some lazy conspiracy site because they missed the second researcher from wuhan this is what happens when someone's scanning names sees one that points towards their predetermined conclusion and says good enough the dumb dumps will buy this put it a print yep there's nothing fundamentally suspicious about a couple of chinese researchers having co-author credits on a paper that has to do with the sars like coronavirus if you don't recall their country has a bit of a history on the subject it makes sense that there'll be a possibility of collaboration there no no no they they had a history and so they just decided never to worry about coronavirus uh like behavior ever again there's nothing fundamentally suspicious

about this so far i see no smoking gun and quite frankly i don't even know if i see a gun without smoke i don't see anything no i i see an emperor without clothes does that make sense so alex asks boyle uh how'd you find this man this is this is dead to write google google that by the way dr boyle stay stay right there sure i'm reading the paper i mean you have big news you sent us links but i'm just now reading it what and you talk about smoking gun this is the chinese government paying for the exact same thing with a us lab no how did you discover this how this is smoking gun how the hell did you find this google that well alex i i told you that it's part of my professional responsibilities to stay on top of biological warfare so i came across it and in

my research that's just part of the job look like you're explaining it very well so there's so much wrong with this clip like for one alex says that he's uh you know just getting ready to reading the study which literally means he's reading it while boyle is talking which is simultaneously a bad way to interview and a bad way to read you're just gonna do a bad job of both second boyle is giving up the game if you watch the video when he's describing how he found this information he has a little smile on his face and he just says that's part of the job that you know all uh all in a day's work aw shucks it's just what heroes do stuff is horseshit this is a man who knows he can't tell alex where he got the information from because if he did he would

instantly reveal that he didn't do any research he just found it on a conspiracy blog weirdly an article covering very similar territory was published on february 15th a couple days before this interview took place on zero hedge there it is this was about a chinese researcher who theorized that the virus could have escaped from the lab at wuhan who points out that jeng li li she works at the wuhan lab and was involved in that north caroline study in 2015 which would explain why boyle seems unaware of the other people on that study boyle is not a scientist he does not keep up with scientific journals he's just a conspiracy theorist who happens to teach law and he read some dumb shit probably on zero hedge now he's playing the role of a genius researcher who cracked the

case of thalix also that part about china paying for the study is because boyle is cherry picking stuff out of the acknowledgments the study was partially funded by an award from the national natural science foundation of china but you know he kind of leaves off that there were also grants from the national institutes of aging that might sound weird but you know why aging people why is that in there probably because things like corona viruses mostly kill the elderly so finding treatments and prevention for it would really have the effect of drastically improving the lives of the older set ah that's where you miss uh that's where you're mistaking it see it's from the institute of de aging all right they're trying to get rid of old people that's why they created this virus go

tell it to alex okay this is i think that might work yeah this is all weak shit and i demand a real answer from francis boyle where did you find this no hey i want a strict accounting of this that he does not give out it's my job to stay on top of things i just came across it your research your answer sucks i'm not going to give you a source so we don't need to listen to any more of boyle's shit but i do want to say that there's something particularly hilarious about this interview alex is going on and on about how there's a smoke and gun stuff and it got the global is dead to right and they've proved that the virus is a bio weapon and instead of getting into the specifics of the research and demonstrating their argument past surface level things like i found two articles

that have the word gain of function in them or like i saw a chinese person involved in this study instead of doing any of that alex does a long plug for his products it's really easy to use this kind of conversation to drive sales when you know everything that's happening on your show isn't real and that's what's going on because if not alex would be like holy shit holy shit call call everybody yeah yeah seriously like it he'd be freaking out like if that's real then yeah he gives up that he doesn't believe the stories he's telling by his like lackadaisical sales pitch for five minutes in the middle of this video there's another reality that we need to discuss and i think it might help in explaining alex's unwillingness to get into the virus news on

this february 20th show i was speculating that it's because you know hey everything's sold out no real financial motive to do this but i actually now that i you know i've watched this boil interview and see that he's saying that there's a smoking gun that the u.s sold this bio weapon to die all this stuff i think he realizes he's gone too far oh yeah i think so the narrative has come to completion already that's a huge problem that's true that is true yeah this mystery is solved yeah yeah it was the government who sold it yeah this is an episode this is clue you know he already has the world's number one fake authority on the science of bio weapons francis boil coming on his show and giving him absolute definitive smoking gun proof that not only is the corona virus lab

made but that alex is now in possession of the documents that prove that this lab in north carolina created it in 2015 at the behest of the chinese government who paid for its creation there is no mystery it is a solved case unfurl the sign mission accomplished according to the reality of his show boil is a credible source and it's been proven that the researchers at u n c chapel hill made china a bio weapon because they wanted money the problem with this is from a narrative standpoint there's nowhere good to go alex knows that his proof isn't proof and any real scientist that looks at it or any court or legal investigator would laugh in his face so that route is not going to work that's one direction he could go trying to pursue legal action against the folks in north carolina

but he knows that's a dead end and it probably could result in a countersuit and yeah that he would lose so where does that leave things if you're presenting to your audience that you have definitive smoking gun evidence that this is a bio weapon and you know they're selling it to china and it's the most deadly thing ever and well it's over for humanity there will only be loan survivors then what do you think the natural conclusion someone might come to is take action you need to go solve they we need to stop this do you not think that you're getting dangerously close to the point where your audience is going to start calling in and saying hey why aren't you telling us to like you should be telling us to burn down u n c chapel hill and kill those scientists

yeah absolutely they're murdering thousands of people right alex you've proven this yeah you have it dead to right smoking gun why aren't you like look call the fucking cops at least or something no no no the cops are globalist that's fair like what it's a problem with his rhetoric if he has proven demonstrably that this is a bio weapon that's killing hundreds and hundreds of people and you've cracked the conspiracy yeah you need to call in the mobs now that's based on everything that exists in alex's show that's like where he should be so alex has backed himself into a corner with the sensationalism of his corona virus coverage according to info wars this is a civilizational level threat that's definitely a bio weapon and now he accidentally allowed

frances boil to come on and definitively named the culprits this kind of leaves alex with only a few choices one is to continue escalating and risk one of his listeners taking him seriously and trying to hurt the folks at u n c which is kind of the natural conclusion a person would have listening to his show another option is to throw boil under the bus and say that he's wrong about this but if alex does that he risks calling into question all the other stuff the boil has told him about the outbreak and it also risks his ability to have boil on when the next outbreak comes and he needs to sell his survival food i guess the third option is this be a coward and ramble for about half an hour about how you can't cover the story because it's already a solved case and the

only thing left to do for alex is rally the troops this is really really a good case study for why even if you're a propagandist conspiracy theorist and even if it seems like it's appealing to dabble in the pandemic outbreak stuff it's just not a good idea to go all in with it it's a delicate conspiracy game and as you can see here it's not even a line that a pro like alex can walk well it is this is like a an episode of law and order where they they like go through all the effects of the case and they solve the mystery and they're like all right we got him the end and they never do anything else it's just like hey we figured out who it was next case i mean it's a real problem for alex's narratives to have solved it like you can't you can't do that no it doesn't

like what do you do now yeah you agitate against the people in north carolina i guess i mean what do you do i mean i i if you are actually telling me in real life 100 true that you know exactly who is infecting thousands of people killing people all over the world and nobody is doing anything about it there's two guys there who literally did this then it's like i i let's get them let's go find them i i don't know what to do here it call call the fbi it's it's not it's nonsensical and like there's really nothing you can do there for alex there are no real good options just move on pretend it never is boil kind of fucked him yeah well i think he fucked himself well of course he asked frances boil to prove it yes yeah so it's like he frances boil fucked him over by doing

exactly what alex yeah exactly as always alex fucked himself it's not what alex wanted no alex needs to live in that in between space like i've talked about it before the kind of panic that alex wants is the kind that drives you to buy his products not the point where you're like you feel justified and actually torching a building yeah that is the wrong kind of uh uh fanaticism for alex by and large if it does come he gets to call it a false flag and you can you know he can deal with it yeah generally but he doesn't want that because it's more trouble than it's worth usually so alex is uh done with this now for for the time being we took a little bit of a diversion there down to the sunday episode and then his interview with boil because i think it's important like he is not

explaining that headline the smoking gun yeah and you know i think it uh we need to address it for the sake of completion with our our coverage but now we get back to the february 20th show and alex is back on the uh trump is about to pardon roger course all right trump is set to speak on prison reform and i'm sure that'll be roger stowell as soon as that happens we're gonna go to it should have another special guest popping in but i'll get to all your calls so he's got a special guest he said randy critico is gonna be randy critico yeah we've already had tiley nixon so yeah yeah we're going on we're gold it's on i thought for sure randy critico yeah alex has said it but uh in the in the meantime he goes to calls and uh this caller uh he has a uh this caller

seems uh weird so um yeah um have you heard of the cosmic cowboy trilogy i've heard that name but i've never uh what is it it's a book yeah it's a movie strip that i wrote in 2011 and um it prophesied the move uh trump's move to uh to the embassy move in jerusalem in 2018 so it was like a a nine-year prophetic look well yeah i've heard of that of course i've heard of that what is it easy how full of shit alex is any type of a caller like you or this i know everything so of course i know that cosmic cowboy trilogy it's a script that i wrote well shit that happens a lot with alex like just like things he could not possibly be aware right right to be aware of there's just i like that that's what i have in my pockets is it a ring

so alex plays a commercial he goes uh to break and he comes back and this commercial is on the show uh and it's for this thing he has a new website operation win 2020 dot com sure and what it is is basically just a place where people can get those uh duct tape stickers to put over their mouths all right to go to trump alleys great great that all say it for wars dot com of course one of them says i am q tried to capitalize on the q dot people they're so bad uh it's it's dumb he's just like we can we could take over these trump rallies and we could take over everything with all we have to do with stickers on our mouths um we don't need to listen to the commercial but there's one part that's pretty funny visit operation win 2020 dot com to discover how you can join the second

american revolution and secure the first amendment not just for ourselves but for future generations i recently told the former head of psychological warfare at the state department dr steve pacenek about our plan and he loved it i'm steve pacenek and i approve this message i recently told steve pacenek about this and he loved it he loved it so you know it's great who are you to judge my plans steve loves it all right so after that commercial alex gets around to a special guest and i was like fucking sweet let's get credit go on here maybe he'll do an impression or two i would love it i'm gonna stop right here i'm just gonna be straight up with you

i don't need to have this guest on to sell storeable food this ties into the coronavirus and how crazy it is and that weeks ago almost all of the big food companies have sold out his fucking guest is the guy who runs my patriot supply it's just his food sponsor that's a surprise guest special guest special guest well he's on because he has a very important message and that is uh hey hey y'all prices going up yeah and yes we're selling storeable food here i sell it when there's not a crisis going on but concerns me is we're a month into this and food sales aren't going down they're going up and so you guys i was talking to you last night this morning you're going to have to raise prices a little bit because food prices are going up

prices going out hold on let me ask you a question dad have you and i ever done an episode where maybe alex says specifically that these guys are great because they are not opportunists who are raising prices in the face of a crisis man but they have to because they're oh well they have to they talk about this quite a bit like their price for the raw material is already gone up oh of course eaten it yeah eaten though they have to pass it along eventually of course or else they're never going to can't turn a profit no so alex asks him like you know hey what what's going on with this situation this guy what a dumb dumb if you notice that the death count or not the death count i'm sorry the uh those infected in the u.s the number was like 15

suddenly you can't get that number or the number that are under quarantine or self quarantine in the u.s you saw a story a couple of days ago 4500 in california quarantined or our self quarantine 712 in the state of washington why is there nobody adding up that number to tell us what the picture truly is and and why has it a number of infections number kind of just stops being reported i have no idea what self quarantine means but i would assume that it'd be a figure that is impossible to report accurately as people who don't go outside much how is anyone going to be able to accurately capture the figure of how many people are self isolating seems outside the scope of a researcher as for the u.s cases of the virus this dude's just making it up the people who

stopped reporting on it there's an article right here from the new york times that the headline corona virus cases in u.s reach 34 there's an article in cbs news right here about how many of people uh many of the people who represent that uptick from the previous figure are us citizens who are evacuated from the diamond princess cruise ship and are now being quarantined in the united states sure there hasn't been a media blackout about this it's a topic that's being covered you can find the stories easily if you look for them however if you're trying to drive sales for disaster survival food it's in your best interest to pretend that there's a cover up going on since that tends to imply that things are way worse than they appear and you definitely need

survival food right now this is all disingenuous exploitation of a public health event to translate it into money these people should be ashamed of themselves and their sales practices every time why aren't there any muslim leaders condemning this tax of terrorism why none of them ever do it you never see him do that shit uh like every fucking time just open your lying pieces of shit look dude they they recognize that there is people who are panicking about this this situation this public else trying to exploit them no they're not they wish it wasn't happening but so the fact that you've gotten to the point behind the scenes and you were willing to say it on air that yeah our prices are about to go up in a few weeks and if it keeps on like this let's just be honest i was talking to

you and i was talking to founder matt reddock you guys are like we're going 24 hours a day and we've got the food we don't know this is scary it's only going up we just wish this wasn't as big a crisis we wish it would stop we're scared i don't know we didn't pre talk about this but i'm just being honest behind the scenes you've never seen anything like this never never we wish we were making so much money didn't pre talk about this that means you pre talked about it yeah why are you even doing that vocal tick where you reveal you're lying before you even say something i think it's because he knows what he's doing is really gross yeah that's good that's possible i think he's a bit self-conscious about how fucking insanely gross this is yeah yeah but uh you know hey this is the

biggest food sale ever man like everybody is making a run on this food and alex asks this guy food guy why that is why do you think it's so big well why do you think this is the biggest food sale i mean am i right this is a big i have never seen this is the biggest of all time for us as we've been in our partnership and business together here absolutely it's because people don't really know because we're not getting the true information are they getting lied to by alex that why yeah i guess is it's because people don't know technically i do think he's accurate like well yeah it's the biggest food sale because people are getting bad information they're just getting bad information from the guy who's selling your food yeah on purpose also speaking of bad information alex

keeps talking about how all these other food companies they don't even have food they have long wait times all out i i called a bunch of them did you yeah man it must have been really impossible to get a hold of anybody i'm sure their phones are blocked up too they don't have any food their phones have been cut i called some other food companies yeah other survival food companies and they all have about the same perspective that this guy does yeah they are all out about a 10 10 day delivery window up from whatever their normal window is because of increased loads i discussed with a couple of them about like like whether or not they have food and they're oh of course yeah absolutely yeah we are a business in order for us to continue to be a business we

have to do the business part right yeah all of like all the survival food companies are going through an increase of sales because of people like alex who are sensationalizing all of this but all of them have i don't know i did you ask anybody that directly of like do you guys feel like this panic is being pushed and your food is benefiting from it i didn't ask that directly but one guy i talked to i did bring up that like the delay is because of increase sales surrounding this coronavirus stuff yeah yes yeah so i think there is an awareness at least from one of the guys that i talked to yeah you can't not be aware no right no no and and and in hindsight i really wish i had asked all of them if their competitors don't have

food i was wondering i thought you were i thought you were for sure asking oh damn damn cool because i wasn't i wasn't trying to get like a gotcha no of course i was just trying to gauge like if i call these people will they have food yeah and all of them yes yeah of course they i should have asked if they because i'm interested in if that's an angle that they all have yeah as opposed to just this is what my patriot supply is saying i'm not sure but whatever the case is they're all they all are i don't know what the other companies are doing right my patriot supply and alex jones are running a fucking disgraceful charade here pretending that no one else has any food all that stuff is such bullshit i imagine that the food companies that have like i mean souls or something

along those lines are like fully aware that this is all because of the coronavirus panic and they're not pushing it they're not trying to get that panic out there yeah but they're also not exactly like it's not wrong everybody calm down there you know it's not wrong to make money off of increased demand no it's but it's wrong to artificially yeah create that demand yeah by the sort of actions that alex is taking so they get done with this interview and alex comes back and it's time to get to this trump press conference because trump is giving his speech about criminal justice now mike down for this because this clip takes a ride okay alex jumps in immediate rez okay in the middle of trump's speech and he thinks that trump is about to pardon roger on on live air yes oh man

and it does not go the way he wants of course not all right ladies and gentlemen no music here as we start to forward the hour we're preempting a lot of stuff president trump just took the microphone on a criminal justice reform speech people are expecting him to make a statement on roger stones three and a half year senate's given down by the obama dropping judge jackson here he is we are we are giving him absolute consideration and i have a feeling he's going to get that full part feeling i can't tell you i don't know why feed man we missed that by 10 seconds maybe somebody else great gentlemen that's the first thing they said to me when i walked in and uh but everybody knows who you are i know who you are 11 years that's not roger stone so we

want to hear about tremendous the black guy gets a pardon too but what about roger stone it's somebody completely different trump is talking about some other guy who's in the room who might get a pardon oh no alex you felt like you had that victory so it's so tasty so tasty but it's just some black guy oh man and he even makes it way worse of course he does oh yeah of course he does can't deal with this appointment asshole so alex thinks that this speech trump is giving is going to be where he pardons roger but in reality is just trump giving a stump speech at the commencement of a hope for prisoners graduation ceremony in los vegas it is just part of his re-election publicity speech to her it has nothing to do with roger or even any of the pardons like with

bloggo that he gave up it's just press so anyway uh trump rambles in the middle of this speech surprise uh and he talks about like hey you know we're gonna get some hey you know some people getting out of prison and there are good people well maybe some of them aren't good people he specifically is saying they're like yeah might let some bad people out of prison really it's weird he can't do that and we want to bring returning citizens great people great people in many cases great people and not in all cases i'm not going to be too politically correct fellows right not at all case that's not a laugh line in many cases we want to rebuild their lives they want to rebuild their lives they want to help us you know trump is a country he's not anti human that's

please that's why they're pissed he's just not he likes people yeah they like to let bad people out of prison i don't understand how i mean whatever i mean bad is kind of a relative term i don't know what the definition of it is but this is such like i oh this is this is how you can get away with so much shit is just like do a new evil thing every day and if possible every 20 minutes you can't possibly imagine any fucking president saying i'm going to let some bad people out of jail i'm just going to do i'm not going to be politically correct and say everybody's great how can you be politically correct you're you're being you're just you're i'm hey i'm just going to let some murderers out and if they murder people you know what i'm not politically correct

guys i shoot from the hip right you can't possibly do that it's very weird it's a weird speech come and so he notices or i guess he knows that miriam and sheldon adelson are in the audience of the speech that he's giving we're going to let some bad people into this room so he gives them a shout out and this shout out is weird and the job you do miriam what you've done sheldon just overall is incredible and two great people just really and they like a place called israel very much would you say that's correct maybe i have to use the word love a place called israel right in your case what the fuck i understand look it seems weird that he's thanking miriam and sheldon adelson

mega donors the g o p sure who are there it seems kind of incongruous but it turns out that the adelson's run a addiction recovery place in los vegas sure so there is a kind of a relevance to criminal justice reform great it does make sense that they would be there but trump thanking them and them being like and they love israel very weird i seems unrelated this is this is i like it must be so similar to what it was like to live during like 85 to 88 with every time reagan spoke out loud and everybody was just like but with the internet yeah yeah exactly it when if you heard reagan speak in those last three years you must have just been like i'm going to pretend that didn't happen because that was nuts or you're laughing at not laugh lines

like i'm gonna let bad i'm gonna let bad oh my god yeah like what are you talking about yeah it's very upsetting and so he starts talking about roger which is not really what this commencement is for seems strange to use it as a pulpit to you know ramble about your own business oh that would that sound so out of character but what he does is he says that he's not he doesn't even use the word pardon he talks about the great power the president has doesn't use it refuses to use the word pardon and he says that he's not going to get involved he's going to let the process work its way out sure and then he starts rambling about the conspiracy theory about the juror but she had a horrible social media account the things she said on the account were unbelievable she didn't reveal

that when she was chosen and she's i guess from what i hear a very strong woman a very dominant person so she wants people to do whatever she wants and she got on then she became the four person four woman on the jury and i assume they asked her a question do you have any bias do you have any she didn't say that so no we paid for the more near documents we have them we have lawyers on it but does this undermine our fair system of justice how can you by the way listeners you find like this did she delete her social account nope and when roger was determined by the same jury to be guilty before the judge issued a sentence and he was determined to be guilty and she started going a little wild she's very happy and she started saying things that people

said that's strange that's strange and then they started looking at now can you have a jury pool tainted so badly it's not fair so i mean you can hear like slight nervous laughter from people in the audience if you're there for this like graduation from a rehabilitation program like prison to release like you're there because maybe one of your loved ones has been trying really hard to get their life back on track and this is a big time for them it's very it's you know you get to reconnect with this person and bring them back into your day-to-day lives and you've got the fucking president rambling about a conspiracy theory about a juror i it's it's it like how do you how do you handle that this is this is a this is him being a reality tv show star

this is him like teasing it out like this is literally him being like i don't know maybe on the next episode will part yeah it's like fuck you god i really it's really just disrespectful to the people who are there for this event absolutely like he fucking cares no i know it's it's probably maybe a minor issue but it's not for them yeah anyway he does literally say that i'm not going to pardon him which means he's probably gonna pardon him absolutely he doesn't say he's going to he doesn't use the word pardon alex seems to be pretty happy by this turn of events and is pretending that it's definite evidence that the pardon has happened that's trump without a teleprompter that's the real donald trump the one we love the insane one i don't

know the deep state's gonna strike back after this man they are having their ass handed to them roger stone give it three and a half years crumps about the pardoning baird and dallas i'm alex jones this is the front lines of the american compliment your health with him derived cannabinoid oil got cut off by the breaker doesn't seem very happy get some cbd he seems a bit dejected by because i think he thought that that press conference is going to be the way he could end the show it's going to be a victory huge and also like everything is not going the way he wants it to on this episode like he wanted oan shroyer to do a big publicity stunt he got bogged down by complaining and and arguing with the people yeah he's now trying to do this big hurrah

with roger at the end it's not going he tried to like i don't know lackadaisically do that i can't cover the coronavirus news that didn't go anywhere this is a bit very disappointing show it's all over the place very disappointing so alex has matt bracken taken over in the fourth hour right but he'd need like that that's not the way that left a bad taste in his mouth end on a laugh that's a you got to end on a laugh so he goes back to the back to the the batter's box he's getting ready to take some take some swings and he's like all right well go to calls you know i'll take a caller that'll be great they'll tell me i'm awesome unfortunately he gets a sovereign citizen oh god regards to roger stone i do want to say if it did work out any differently because

i got a feeling he's going to be pardoned but in in the event this were to come up for other people he honestly should get rid of his atorners at law because i mean those are titles of nobility and you know he should stand in the law in propria persona as the attorney in fact and use his saving to the spirit what matters he didn't get in the legalese all day i think genuinely that's legally dropping the real president that is not legally that is mumbo jumbo well if you if you directly bypass the system and start talking to the elven council then hold on we don't need to get bogged down in legalese man he gets close to that yeah and i mean the u.s. corporations bankrupt man and we aren't 14th amendment you know citizen slaves so we should just stand up like

even with the dnv like don't don't get those license plates man don't register your vehicle you're not a british sure no no the the globalists have all these legalese things and i get what you're saying a lot of us true really but at the end of the day come on buddy you take the country back and restore american values then we can deal with everything else i mean does that make sense here's what makes sense alex can't tell this guy that that's all bullshit you can't do it because that a risks alienating a large swath of his audience so he has to play this game where he thinks some of this is legitimate but he can never really be like yes this is what you need to do send your social security card back to the government be specific on what it is you do

think is true a lot a lot of what you're saying is true now you a lot of what you're saying is true give me one thing he can't he's in that in between state where pushing back on this risks alienating the hard sovereign citizen support that exists within his audience and validating it makes it so like his show is this stupid yeah stupid or yeah yeah yeah so we have one last clip and it's alex like i don't know why he didn't just hang up on this dude but the the sovereign citizen wants advice on what he should do oh no my advice would be go go to a therapist go home go to a therapist talk to somebody because you believe some things that are not based on reality therapy is the title of nobility dan that is true lcs w yeah

part of the crown um insta alex had some other advice like what would like a day to day person like me you know and his 20 is still you know in quote unquote school getting you know total quote like whatever i would go to city council and county commissioners every week they give a three minute speech about the world and that'll dominate him and destroy them until others come and speak i would start a youtube show i started online thing i would just read info or stories on here oh great if i read info or stories on your own youtube channel create another media tender for me get on youtube and read my shit where i'm not allowed to be also go down to city council and make yourself a public embarrassment for three minutes at a time and you'll totally

destroy the city councils what should i do here's my advice work for me for free and embarrass yourself in public so you're even more alienated from other people around you you fall deeper into only listen to me and the other people who agree with you it's a great system everybody else is a liar great trying to kill you system bad advice alex bad advice so we come to the end of this February 20th 2020 episode and i think that alex has dealt quite well with the fact that his best friend got sentenced to three years and plus in prison and staying great this show sucks oh man what a disappointment i just i i have this dream in my head that i like i really hope trump abandoned stone because i think stone might be the only rat fucker able to rat fuck trump right i think he's

i think he's the only one who could really do it and i want to see what happens because he's got so much shit right he's got so much shit most likely yeah i don't know not have so much shit if you're a stone and trump but i think that that assumption that you're making is also what animates all of the desperate defense of roger oh no yeah people like alex and oh and also assume that he knows so much absolutely and that's why they have to bend over backwards to try and create these narratives and it extends so far like talker carlson even plays the same game yeah yeah and some of that might also just be based on the fact that him and roger are friends it's hard to tell where the line of fear of what roger knows right and personal affinity right where that

is right i imagine those lines blur together just like in a personal sense of like i well i mean yeah if you if your friends with roger stone there the longer your friendship goes the more part of your friendship is like i wish i hadn't said that to roger stone you know like there's something there can't shake him yep yeah i don't know anyway we come to the end of this and i just think that alex has done a pretty disgraceful job on all counts just awful just trash just awful but we'll fire schreuer please we'll be back but until then we have a website we do have a website it's knowledge right dot com yep it's all we're also on twitter we are on twitter it's at knowledge underscore fight and that go to bed jordan yep we're also on facebook we are on facebook and if

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