Knowledge Fight - #412: March 24-25, 2020

Episode Date: March 27, 2020

Today, Dan and Jordan check in to see what Alex Jones is up to in the middle of this chaotic week. In this installment, the gents find Alex following in lockstep with the mainstream right-wing media, arguing that the coronavirus is no big deal, and people should go back to work. Also, Alex does the world's worst Bane impression.

I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys knowledge fight. Dan and George, knowledge fight. I need money. Andy and Kansas. Andy and Kansas. Andy and Kansas. It's time to pray. Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. Hello, Alex and Mr. Sincolli. I'm a huge fan and love your work. Knowledge fight. No, no, no, no, no, knowledge fight. I love you. Hey everybody. Welcome back to knowledge fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes like sit around drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Indeed we are Dan Jordan Dan Jordan. Can I ask you a question? What's a bright spot that's been going on in your life so far? This is going

to be an iffy bright spot and if he brights. What is it? What is an iffy bright spot? Well, it's kind of bright, but also a little bit weird. Okay, so we were talking on our last episode about wrestling theme songs a little bit. Of course, and I started to think about the the time that the WWF put out an album where rappers did the wrestlers theme songs. They did a lot of versions of them and I started to think about it like I haven't listened to that in a long time, so I went back and listen to it. It's not that great, but I started to think about other rap stuff that I haven't heard in years. Okay, and that I remembered the 69 boys. Okay, this is an iffy bright spot. Do you remember the 69 boys? I do not

remember the 69 boys. When I was in high school, we would drive to lunch and everybody like one was 69 and the guy who drove us to lunch had an album called the weight is over by the 69 boys. Okay, and there was a song on it called freak you down to the base, freak you down to the base. I'm gonna play you a little sample of it. Is that it's so far down. But let's be free for a minute, baby, look in my face and tell me have you ever been free to face or have a man ever made you. Somebody stop this. Somebody stop him free me. See, listen, here's the problem. You were talking over the part that's the most awesome about this. I apologize. He he says as a man ever made you buckle up at your

knees. By the way, he slowly ate your macaroni and cheese is a ridiculous rap lyric, but this song is fantastic. This song is full of food metaphors for sex. Everything is just about fucking, but he's talking about like I'm gonna drop my ham hocks and your mustard greens. Okay, okay, it's ridiculous. And so I listen to it. I was like that's just as fun as I remember it. It turns like just being a really ridiculous song and then I realized that that came out in nineteen ninety eight. Oh boy. That's twenty two years old six years into Clinton's presence. That's twenty two. Like when I was born, that amount of time back would have been nineteen sixty six. Yeah, so what I was bored like the Beatles

were putting out albums at the right that it's been since the sixty nine right right put up the weight is over. So that's my bright spot. I think they're equal. Yeah, the Beatles in the sixty nine certainly equidestined. I would say time something along those lines. So what about you? I will tell you this. Have you ever heard of awesome games done quick? Yeah. Yeah. Sure. That's a stream kind of thing. Yeah. Yeah. It's a charity where all these guys speed run video games and I watched this one where it was a blind speed race of Super Mario maker levels. Okay. And watching these guys just slowly figure out how to get through this impossible Mario level is so it's so fun to watch them learn and their

little techniques get better each and every time and also it's just mesmerizing the way that everything moves around and they're jumping off of the wall. It's it's very, very fun and soothing. I hate to be this guy. You hate to be this guy, but I have recommended those to you repeatedly in the past. What really, really hard Super Mario maker. Yeah. Yeah. I think we've talked about it. Yeah. They are very fun to watch. I wasn't judging you. I'm not trying to take it away from you. I appreciate they're very fun to watch. Thank you for the recommendation. Oh, these are the bright spots for the day. So Jordan, we get an episode to go over today. We're going to be going over March twenty fourth and twenty

fifth twenty twenty. James is twenty twenty. So that would be Tuesday and Wednesday of this week. All right. And boy, everything has changed not only in the real world, but in the world of Alex's narratives. Okay. One eighty. Okay. So now it's not even happening. Well, sort of. Okay. All right. There is no coronavirus. There's a lot of doubling back on stuff and we'll get down to business on that here in a second. But before we do, you gotta take a moment to say thank you some folks who signed up in our supporting the show. So first, David is a deviant. Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you. Deviant David. Thank you. Next, Sean. Thank you so much. You're now

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one, the cheesecake factory and number two Jordan's Twitter. That sounds like a plan. So Jordan, like I said, today we have a very bizarre situation on Alex's show and it starts with him promising to be right on the ball today. All right, right down the middle. Okay, going to be good. I trust him. I trust him this time. I believe in him going to do a good job. I'm going to be a really good boy today and I'm going to cover all the news and boy is it amazing. The big giant court trillion pound enchilada that's sitting in the middle of the living room. I like enchiladas trillion pound elephants sitting on top of that. Not going to be able to eat $80 question is where the hell are the globalists going

to take us and the answer is right into chaos, rack and ruin and destruction. So he's going to be good today. All right, explain how the globalist are going to take us into rack and ruin. Yes, that's very exciting. That's a very positive message. So we've got going on here is that now this is a hoax. The whole thing is a hoax. Well no, there is a real virus. Okay, but being afraid of it is a hoax in order for the globalists to take control by way of destroying the economy by having people not go to work. Okay, so that works. Alex discusses how this hoax that they're doing the globalists that is is now floundering. Isn't it amazing to watch the globalist flounder around like this and try one big hoax after

another. And now their mass hysteria worked at first. But now everybody I talked to is now waking up and just saying this is ridiculous. This is out of control. And the lieutenant governor of Texas came out and said, I'm a grandparent. Others are grandparents. We're all talking and we're ready to brave this thing that looks like it might kill 1% of people that are above 75 and sick for our grandkids because the Great Depression is going to be a lot worse than that. And Trump said it last night at the press conference that Brian Williams attacked. That's coming up. So Alex has definitely caught the right wing talking points. Yeah, he's gotten in line with the people are like the Tuckers and the the Hannity's who are putting

forth the and he is but old buddy Glenn back in him or they're in sync. Yeah, the old people are willing to go and save the economy and they'd rather die than see the economy take a hit. So that's cool. It is. It is interesting to think about these people being like you know who should fight in World War One the elderly. I think we should put them in the front lines. They're willing to sacrifice themselves for the good of the country. Right. They have less time left. Put them in the trench. Put them in the trench. Oh, no million people died. They were going to die in two years. Anyways, come on. It's really interesting considering the trajectory in the path that we've seen Alex walk down and the way that

this is it seems out of step. Yeah, with the path we've been on. Yeah, definitely feels like okay. This is the this is the mood of the right wing culture now and Alex is falling in line with it as opposed to being like his own animal. He's not an iconoclast anymore. It doesn't feel like it, but he does believe he has in the same way that whenever the going gets weird, the weird turn pro to quote Hunter S Thompson, the the if you're all doing that, then Alex has to go a little bit beyond that. Absolutely. And so he does kind of get down to that in this clip. He insists that what's going on is unconstitutional and that's going to be a virus. Well, not the virus, but the response to it. Gotcha. Nobody's bad

that wants to be upset about it and quarantine themselves, but that's your choice. The force shutting down of society is unconstitutional and it's deadly dangerous where and point my operations media and warehouses and food are all covered. So I'm not saying oh I'm against this because it affects us. So he wants to establish or first of all this that we'll get back to the unconstitutionality question in a moment, but he wants to let you know that this is not because my business is affected. No, no, no, absolutely all the things that I do are completely exempt from the shutdown orders. Interesting to stay at home orders. I'm not worried about it at all. Let's see how the next 40 seconds go. It makes me

physically go into a rage that art supply shops are going to have to shut today when Austin declares its only essential business to stay open or the Academy was told to close in Dallas, which is a lot more important than Walmart. They got a lot of good stuff and camping stuff and guns and everything and clothing and don't know if you're just shut and propure in Michigan or other great water filter supplier. Alexa pierce selling out. So I said, well, let's go to propure. This is good. Let's promote them. They go. Oh, sorry. Michigan ordered them shut down. I'm reading the letter this morning and I literally got angry. Water filters aren't essential, but marijuana within 30 seconds of him saying my business isn't personally affected. It just so happens

that one of our suppliers is shut down and I'm very mad about that and all gun stores are spiritually his sponsors. So any gun stores not being open is certainly a big slight. Yeah. So yeah, he's probably a little bit misleading there about not being affected by this, but there's a five year old out there who can't get his first a K on his fifth birthday. Then what the fuck are we doing? That's not America anymore. What are we doing? So these government mandated shutdowns. They're definitely not unconstitutional at this point. We're really only seeing state and local governments putting these kinds of shutdowns or stay at home orders in place. And these are well within the rights that states have to protect the community from

infectious diseases unconstitutional. No more states rights. Dan according to an article in Politico by UC Davis law professor Elizabeth Joe. This is a part of the state's policing power, which is reserved by the 10th amendment and it's been affirmed in case law pretty consistently. The question of whether Trump could do that on a national level. That's an open question with experts not really having a good take on it because there isn't a good precedent. Most thinking that he could do it and if he could do it, it would take the form of an executive order using this national emergency declaration as the groundwork. The courts could try to challenge it, but they might not be quick to do that while the virus situation is still an active

threat. It would be kind of complicated. But even if Trump did this, he probably would be unable to do much more than encourage every state to just do what California, New York and others are already doing. If you were to try to put a lockdown in place in a way that bypasses the state governors being the ones who are making the decision and running their home states, there's a pretty decent chance that that would be unconstitutional. It seems like if you were a big states rights guy, you would be more in favor of the states choosing their own path forward or you could just call it all unconstitutional and just use that as a buzzword. Yeah, absolutely. The general point here is that nothing that's happening right now is unconstitutional and further

there's really nothing that can happen that would be unconstitutional that would not be initiated by Trump. Congress doesn't have the authority to lock down the country, but it could grant Trump the authority to do that. Though it probably wouldn't do that unless he requested it. He could release an executive order outside of that. What we would see is just state governors utilizing their 10th Amendment powers to protect their residents. And as you pointed out, Alex should be totally fine with that. He yells about states rights all the fucking time. Nope unconstitutional under clause two of section one where it says the Constitution is whatever we say it is sure on whatever day. If you're a right wing propagandist, otherwise you're not allowed

to look at this document. Pretty sure that's the Constitution. I'm pretty sure that's what it says. So Alex is really pushing pretty good on this. People want to die or risk death sure in order to make sure that the economy keeps humming along just great and we start to see the way that this narrative is going to take take shape over the course of this episode. I got a call yesterday from one of my lawyers who's I've known about six years. He's a good guy, but he's a big Democrat means well kind of fashion Democrat means well dog Democrat here in Texas. He said, I'm kind of thinking Trump's right. You know, I'm looking at my 401k and I'm looking at my first grandchild coming and I'm looking at depression and what that'll do and how millions died of starvation during that. And

did you know millions died during the Great Depression starvation? I'm like, No, I didn't know that because I'm hearing my own information come back at me. That's when you know you're successful. And I go, did you hear that for me? He goes, No, no, I was talking to some of the other lawyers. He said, I do think we just can't shut everything down for months and months. I mean, China is already open for business. And he goes, I think Trump's right. I mean, we just can't indefinitely shut everything down. There's lawyer does not exist. No, this is just Alex doing a voice to repeat his own talking points and the guys have some big Democrat lawyer that he knows. Yeah, such bullshit. What are you? Alex? Did you know that seven million died of starvation in the Great

Depression? A very common thing. A very common thing to know for a lot of lawyers. Did you know that lawyers get together on their off hours and talk about the Great Depression and casualty is there? Did you know in order to pass the bar, you have to study profit such bullshit? No, it doesn't exist. That's only in Texas that you have to study profit, but you're going to start to see over the course of this in terms of rationalizing that notion of we need to put everyone back to work now. Damn the torpedoes who care about the consequences or the dangers of the virus, the coronavirus put everyone back to work because if the economy falls apart, we'll have a Great Depression. Seven million will starve to death. It's where the cure is worse than the disease,

right? So that fake statistic is going to become a very important part of his rationalization. Fake statistics are a huge part of his rationalization. Yep. And just like viruses mutate. You know how they do that? So do sales pitches. Okay. Alex is in a position now where a lot of his normal avenues for making money during this crisis have been cut off. He's gotten a very stern warning from the New York Attorney General's office and he can't really sell things like his silver the way he was before. Yeah. He's artificially increased the demand so high on the supply of the food supplier that they've had to not allow him to take orders anymore. So he is in a position where like well I can't do that, but as we saw in our last episode, he's now realized that this

chlorquin that Trump was promoting. No it involves zinc and he sells the real red pill, right, which is zinc. Right. And so he's going really going hard in the fake hole into like well now it's time to sell zinc. And they won't tell you the science that zinc they've taken preventatively before you get sick. Depending on the study you look at is between 97 and 99% effective with viruses period. Look it up. Type in the zinc antiviral and you will see it for yourself and what does chloroquine do? Chloroquine? Chloroquine. It is simply a medical version of what is in the tonic that you get at the store. Wow. British government learned that it was anti-malarial and their troops all over the equatorial world 200 years ago wanted their gin. The army drank gin. Alex goes on a rant about gin

and tonics. Right. A lot on this episode. He just repeatedly is like this chlorquins just like drinking tonic water. Man, is he trying to get as many letters from attorneys general that he can? Is he trying to build a collection there? He seems to be like the kind like a dog going up to an invisible electric fence getting shocked and then like trying to go a little bit to the side. Just constantly like is this okay? This fence is a giant circle, but what if I just go inch by inch eventually I'll find every part of the circle, right? Yeah. So now it's all about selling the zinc. And I was able to find some studies that seem to suggest that zinc supplementation could have an effect on preventing things like the common cold. So I'm not going to get too bogged down and Alex

is shamelessly transparent attempt to sell the real red pill. Yeah, I think that he's going a little bit overboard, but whatever. I'm more interested in the fact that he's still pushing the chloroquine, particularly considering he called it chloroquil, which doesn't inspire confidence that he has a good handle on this guy. There's nightquill dayquill chloroquil. It all makes sense by the time we'd recorded our last episode. There had been two non fatal overdoses in Nigeria from people taking the irresponsible advice to take chloroquine to treat or prevent the coronavirus. But since then, a 68 year old man in Arizona died after taking chloroquine phosphate and his 61 year old wife was sent to the hospital in critical condition. She survived and explained their actions by saying

quote we saw Trump on TV every channel and all his buddies said that it was safe. Trump kept saying it was basically pretty much a cure. Alex is one of those buddies. Yeah, maybe not the ones that she saw, but he's playing the same games as all of them. Yeah, news broke about the couple, at least a day before the episode that we're listening to right now. Cool, cool, cool, cool. The advice has taken at least one life and sent others to the hospital and Alex is comparing it to quinine being in tonic water. This is absolutely staggering levels of your responsibility that he has on display here. It's just you couldn't do a worse job if you tried. Yeah, you know, I think a lot of people are willing to sacrifice themselves so the Dow doesn't go down a percentage point. But what we don't know is that

also Republicans are willing to kill themselves to make sure that it doesn't go down a percentage. You didn't know that. Did not know. Yeah, I see. That's very. It's very crucial, crucial. Uh huh. Yeah, so this is a sigh off that's going on. Sure, sure. Apparently, according to Alex and also Trump knows that it's a sigh up, which is weird. Trump knows so much that doesn't seem to exist or happen. Yeah, and this is where we get into the other element of the virus is no big deal narrative. No big deal. But President Trump understands this is a sigh off. So they're in a balancing act where he responded to the virus that does kill people and is a serious issue. It's the hype saying it's the end of the world. That's the hoax and the sigh off. He knows that China is already ramping up ignoring the virus over

there. They've only lost about 4,000, at least over 5,000 now because they have the oldest population in Europe and because they all live third. That's why we're actually together in the same small apartments. They lose 70,000 on average a year from the flu there. And so they've lost 5,000 from this. Firstly, this is not a sigh off. And if the sigh off is supposed to be portraying the situation that it's the end of the world, I only know one fucking person who said it's over for humanity. There will only be lone survivors. So I guess info wars was the tip of the spear on the sigh off. We've we've already established that our boy Mike Adams is a globalist for short and he's working for China. Absolutely is the mainstream media. Of course. Yeah, I wanted to take a moment to address Alex's dumb dumb idea that this is just like the flu, which he is insinuating at the end of that clip and he

does say pretty consistently or at least comparing flu deaths to this. I talked to my aunt last night and she told me that. Yeah, Jesus fucking Christ. Yeah, I think that your aunt and a lot of folks on Twitter have this narrative in their head and they can't get they can't seem to get past this thing and I from what I can tell the only thing this argument is based on is a raw number of deaths that come from the flu each year. This is a really incomplete way of looking at the situation and there's a couple of really important considerations to keep in mind to help understand why this coronavirus is definitely not like the flu. And if not taken seriously, it will be much worse. The first and easiest to understand element of this is they have a very different fatality rate, the two conditions. The flu has approximately a point one percent fatality rate, whereas the bottom estimates for the coronavirus are about one percent, but some

countries are showing significantly higher numbers than that. On just that level, it's at least ten times deadlier for people who get infected. On top of that, you have a higher estimated transmission rate from coronavirus than from the flu. Each person who has the flu generally will give it to one point three people compared to the at least two people that are infected from each person who has the coronavirus. Each person who has the virus will on average give it to two people and thus triple the number of cases in each iteration. Yeah, that's how exponential growth works. Yeah, but that estimate might actually be really low and part of what makes things really scary is that the coronavirus has an incubation period that can last up to fourteen days as opposed to the about four day window for the flu. This incubation period is the period where a person could be asymptomatic, have no idea they have the virus, but be contagious the entire time because of this longer

incubation period. The cases that we're seeing arrive in the hospital today may be people who have been sick and not known it for two weeks. During that time, it's possible that they spread the virus to a bunch of other people who we won't know are sick until a week or two from now. It may already be too late to do anything about where we'll be in two weeks, but it's not too late to make sure that three weeks or a month from now things are not continuing down that same horrible path. And that's why we should get back to work next week makes sense because math right one of the things that makes this path so bad that you could be on is that people who have coronavirus are approximately ten times more likely to require hospitalization than people who come down with the flu because of this if cases spike very fast as the potential to completely overwhelm the hospital system in the country at which point things have the possibility of deteriorating dramatically, especially considering that at the point hospitals

are overwhelmed, they're still going to be more patients coming in and people who are coming into things that aren't coronavirus related wrong. If there's anything I know about America's health care system as it stands right now, it is set up for any challenge Dan infinite any challenge. That's why Americans spend more on health care than anybody else in the world to make sure that when an outbreak like this happens, we don't have to worry about it. Dan totally now you can add on top of that the fact that people with coronavirus are a longer and more intensive hospitalization than do most patients who come in for the flu. A limited sample study published in the Journal of the American Medical Association found a median length of stay for coronavirus patients to be 10 days as compared to an average of 6.3 days for the flu according to a 2015-2016 set of data from the health care cost and utilization project. The spread more incubates for longer, thus giving a longer contagion window hospitalizes more and causes longer hospital stays in patients who do

end up requiring medical care. All of these variables combined are unsustainable at a certain point, and you can easily imagine how this will have all sorts of ripple effects that could end up being horrific, not least among them all of the other needs of the medical system that would be left on and oh all of the flu people because it's not like this is replacing. No, it's rid of the flu. The coronavirus eats the flu like this is our flu this year. There's also people getting influenza. There's no flu on top of a coronavirus. You can only have one virus at a time, Dan. That's the rule. Unconstitutional to have more than one point isn't the constitution. So the flu is no joke, and I'm not here to say it's not true, but anytime you hear someone compare our current situation to the flu, they're either a complete psychopath or they have no idea what they're talking about. Cowards like Alex hide behind the sort of bullshit about there being like 50,000 deaths from the flu a year in America. That statistic isn't accurate, and even if it were, do you think you would change his tune if like 55,000 people end up dead from the

coronavirus? Oh, absolutely. It's just a mass. He changes mine. No, absolutely. So some of his information is a little bit wrong for one. Japan has a higher proportion of people over the age of 65 than Italy, but that's not in Europe. So a specific bio weapon if you have a media. If you're going by median age, Germany and Monaco both have populations that are older than Italy. So those are in Europe. Also, Alex's stat about 70,000 flu deaths a year in Italy is completely incorrect. It comes from him not knowing how to read. There was a study that published in November 2019 in the International Journal of Infectious Diseases that showed a total of 68,000 flu deaths in Italy during the time period it studied. I'm fairly certain that this is his source, but what he fails to point out that this study covered the period of winter 2013 through the end of flu season 2017 every year. What that's four years? Yeah. Okay, so that's that's what 280,000 deaths per year. No, you're you're multiplying instead of subtracting or dividing. Also, it really needs to be pointed out that this study was an estimate. They took all cause fatality data from the

country and then combined it with the rates of people getting in influenza like illnesses and estimated that there would be 68,000 deaths attributable to the flu in that five year span. The study literally says quote, the study should be validated using cause specific mortality data, which however was not available for the entire study period. Gotcha. No matter how you slice it, Alex's number is completely false in the context he's providing it in. And actually, according to that very study, the 2013-2014 flu season during that time, there were 7027 deaths in Italy attributable to the flu. As of the time that I was preparing this episode, it's higher now, but there were 7503 deaths from the coronavirus in Italy, so already higher than that for the year. The Psyop is not the media saying that this is the end of the world because the media isn't saying that Alex Jones and his friends were a couple months ago. The Psyop is people like Alex and most of the right wing media trying to convince their audiences that reality isn't reality. It's a game that they play so often and generally they get away with it because they're yelling about stuff like the war on Christmas. Some other boutique concern that's completely made up.

Absolutely. This one is not and no amount of yelling. It's just like the flu. Go back to work. It's going to make things right. It's not like it. Nope. It doesn't play by the same rules as these other propaganda narratives. It really does feel like this is a like you. Like it's almost like the culmination of all right wing propaganda propaganda is to eventually get its people to kill. Let's just kill themselves. Like it's it's almost like Fox News was a false flag to kill the elderly at the end of the day. Like they started it 20 years ago and they're like, okay, we're going to have too many old people. It's just going to happen. We got to do something about this. I have a new plan. We're going to get a black president and we're going to lose people's minds and then kill on the payoff and then kill him. Look yeah. I mean like if we were on info wars, you'd be suggesting that as a serious. I think that's supposed to just yeah. So Alex because everything is so different now on in his rhetoric. He's trying to underplay all this. He now has to sort of pretend like the past isn't real. I didn't say there say that stuff. So his warning was never about the virus. What was it about? It was about the pandemonium or the freaking out. Alright, so that's what he says in this next clip.

I said get ready because of the economy and the breakdown and the global is trying to use it eight weeks ago and boy have we been proven right. So don't pan it because the virus get ready and get concerned because of the panic they've created. So I will grant that Alex does always talk about the economy. Yeah, and now you should panic about sure. He granted. He used to do it a lot more back when he was a gold salesman because he had a more strong financial interest in the that narrative, but he you know that isn't entirely inaccurate, but yes, this virus is deadly. It's not like SARS and things that were just to hype up and scare people and only killed a few hundred. They were saying it's fair monitoring and panicking last week to say 40 something thousand at it. Now the Chinese government today said 300,000 probably do. And that's just in Wuhan. The official World Health Organization says 28,000 confirmed while walked in here a few minutes ago is 24,000. But the internal Chinese numbers that leaked and were actually published in China by the People's Daily said 24,000 dead yesterday. So what we think they're doing is they're just putting the number of dead as the number of infected from your sources at the UN from your own research. How bad is this? Well, Alex, you had this so called tabletop computer game at Johns Hopkins. Bill Gates again, 65 million dead. That's correct. That's the only figure I have seen that seems to be credible.

That comes out to be a 20 percent mortality rate. Even the official numbers now show it has a much higher death rate than they were saying. Yeah, the Chinese government says 15 percent. Barnes, you look at a lot of numbers. So they're just introducing us to the new aids of the new millennium. And this isn't just going to be something that kills people that have anal sex or whatever or use needles. This is something that's going to kill you and your family and make you have a heart attack and make your lungs bleed out. And it totally sucks. And so that's true. That is true. We all are concerned because we know this is big. It is big. But now the numbers are coming out. We know that it is indeed killing healthy young people. And it is killing a high number of those that are infected coming out of places like Italy. They're saying it's killing a lot more people than the numbers the Chai comms have been giving us. Well, you can't believe a word that comes out of the Chai comms mouth. But I want to go back a month ago.

I could have 10 storeable foods company sponsors. A lot of folks do. You listen to some of the other national hosts. They'll have three or four. I've been on there 25 years. People need high quality, swarable food. It's spreading all over the world and it's got a high kill rate. It's man made. It's spreading all over the world. It's got a high kill rate. Wow. Yeah, we're selling a lot of storeable food right now. But not the way I want to sell it. Poor guy trying to retcon his narratives harder than Rise of Skywalker. This is brutal. Yeah. Yeah. I mean brutal just because a part of the things he said before did have to do with the economy doesn't mean that he wasn't driving real hard on the virus. And some of those numbers might sound more close to accurate now, but he was saying them as the reality two and a half months ago. So they were not true then. No, that might lead to a little bit of like doesn't sound too far off. No, not correct. Not 65 million number though. Still bullshit. Yeah. So Alex you could just see an absolute desire to pretend the past and his his rhetoric hasn't been what it has been.

And I think once we get through this a little bit more, you'll start to understand exactly why that's the case. But Alex is thrilled with the idea that Trump is coming out saying that hey we got to get back to work. Got to do that. It's crazy. The number of jobs almost 160 million. So we can't turn that off and think it's going to be wonderful. There'll be tremendous repercussions. There will be a tremendous death from that death. You know, you're talking about death, probably more death from that than anything that we're talking about with respect to the virus. Wonder who they're listening to. See, I don't go get talking points from globalist or DC. We showed you the university studies that the Great Depression killed 7 million people malnutrition. No, you didn't. That 7 million people number is not true. No University of Chicago. It's an erroneous stat based on flawed research that was put out specifically as anti US pro Sophia propaganda. No University of Chicago has never provided a real study to back up this claim he makes. The best he can do is an article in Pravda about the flawed research that has been widely discredited. But he told me that it was from the university.

Major universities major university studies. What an asshole. The problem with Trump and Alex's argument about their desire to turn the economy back on as they put it is that it's dumb. The framing of that argument that they think that they're having is that the virus will cause X number of deaths, but to avoid those deaths, you need to shut down the economy temporarily, which could lead to Y number of deaths. According to them, if X is lower than Y, it's not worth it to shut down things in order to stop the virus. We should just take the hit and keep moving. Simple math. Their thinking is flawed because it's not a question of X number of deaths versus Y number of deaths. If you don't take this seriously and take some action. Now we will get that X number of deaths from the virus, which will lead to a complete collapse of our medical system. According to many experts, ultimately an even worse economic collapse than you would have had from a temporary shutdown. In effect, one of your like your options are Y or X plus Y right. There is no X option that's on the table that is realistic or feasible. Yeah, but the right wing loves addition.

They're not big fans of a single variables man. You got to have two variables. You got to smash them together. Silly. It's insane in circumstances like this. You should always choose the option that's controllable. The amount of pain that could be caused by this economic shutdown is pretty high, but a lot of that pain can be mitigated by government action. There can be relief provided that if properly handled could minimize the amount of death that would be caused by a shutdown. That's a problem that can solve itself if we let it. The same is not true of letting the consequences of coronavirus just run free through the workplace and the population. The effects and consequences of that are fairly unpredictable. Outside of, you know, you can probably predict that it would be really bad. The unspoken argument that's being made here is that the well being of corporations is more important than your life. Alex is trying to pretend that's not what he's saying by citing this bogus stat about starvation and the Great Depression, but mainstream right wing talking point, the one that he's working off of is exactly what you see on Fox News and from Glenn Beck. Glenn Beck said on his show on March 24th the same day as this episode that quote, I would rather have my children stay home and all of us who are over 50 go in and keep this economy going and working. Even if we all get sick, I would rather die than kill the country. Trump's advisor Larry Kudlow appeared on Fox News and said quote, the cure can't be worse than the disease and we're going to have to have to make some difficult trade offs. The conversation that's happening on the right at this point is how if it can help the stock market, thousands of deaths are an acceptable price to pay, or at very worst, a quote, difficult trade off.

This is the talking point that Alex is putting forth with the cowardly mask of this fake Great Depression stat. Alex is arguing that the market is more important than public health, which should be a problem for him. For a guy who yelled about Obama death panels for years for a guy who's just as recently as a few days ago was ranting about Bill Gates and the quote case for killing granny. You would think that he would be against the idea of sacrificing human lives to serve the economic interests of the already very rich, but whatever I it does feel like the rich are just convinced that America is no longer capable of torches and pitchforks like they're they're just like it's just never going to happen again so we can act with impunity. Alex would call that hubris. It does seem like hubris, but I don't know. Maybe they're right. It does seem like they've convinced a large enough number of people to essentially act in ways that would kill themselves and hinder anybody else from doing it. I don't know. Maybe maybe it's just where we are vassals were surfs now. That's just the rule. So Alex Austin has put in place this, you know, stay at home situation. Yes, and Alex is very, very insistent that you know that info wars is not involved in that and they are exact. Here's the Travis County, Austin, Texas shut down order that just came out one hour ago. Stay at home work safe order to zero to zero zero three to four dash 007 by the mayor of the city of Austin.

And let me just turn here for you to page five of nine news media newspaper television radio and other news media services are exempt. Still no one will listen to me because it's too much fun to get hysterical. It's over for humanity saying last week, oh, you're going to be shut down. They thought the order was in place last week. I'm not sure why Alex always gets so defensive about the dumb people he talks to who are wrong about things. Like if his friends and associates thought they had to stay indoors by government degree like a week ago that reflects poorly on them more than anything else. He knows uninformed people and I have no idea why you feel the need to insist that everyone is as dumb as his friends. No, they have secret knowledge. Also, I have no idea why he's making such a huge production out of proving that his business is probably technically considered an essential business. According to the Austin State Home Order, it's very weird and I don't know what he's responding to and also those numbers of the bill, the two o two o three two four.

That's just the date. No, yeah, don't you dare, but I mean it is the did sound familiar title of the really did so familiar. Yeah, it's just the day. So I hate him. I was curious about this and I'm like why is he so defensive about being exempt because he's not well. No, he is, but he gives a little bit of a clue here and most the crew believe me. Some of them didn't. They didn't believe me that the emergency was in place last week and they didn't believe me when I was holding the federal law showing it to the right. That's your opinion. They're great people. I'm just I'll make a huge spec a lot of it on air if I have to. So this is starting to come into focus for me. I have a strong suspicion that this may at least be in part related to some members of Alex's staff not wanting to come in during the outbreak, which I completely understand.

Yeah. However, what I find interesting about the clip is that it tells us a lot about what Alex's employees seem to think about what he does. For one, he claims as an authoritative fact and even claims to have evidence that you know something this thing that you know we're essential and their responses. That's your opinion. That tells me that his staff know that Alex is full of shit and they don't trust him to know anything. Yeah. The only reason you would ever respond to someone like that is if you don't believe them just by default. Yeah, that's that has the sound of them just being like buddy.

We know you we work for you. Shut the fuck up. Yeah. We don't care what you have to say because you're a fucking liar. You're wrong all the time. All the time. Second, this tells me that at least some of the info staff do not feel like what they do is news. If Alex shows them this order that says that news organizations are clearly exempt and they're still not convinced of the point, then they must know that this isn't a news show.

It's propaganda QVC. Third, and possibly most importantly, Alex's clue. Alex's crew has no idea what's going on in the real world. If they thought that there was a lockdown in place a week prior, then they're completely lost. These are the sorts of people Alex has working. It is a legend news operation. People have no idea what's happening around them and that does explain a lot. So thank you for giving me that glimpse into.

Yeah, that's that's a boss. That's a boss bitch and that his employees won't show up to work. Yeah, I think that's that's probably what what's the emotion behind it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So in this next clip, Alex gives a big brag that I think is incorrect. Is he going to start by saying he's not going to brag? No, he just brags. I can recite most of the Bill of Rights.

I've been most probably 50 times. I have constitutional lawyers on constantly and I'm on the phone with them all the time every day. They're your lawyers. They've never read the Constitution and that's why I'm powerful and I'm not saying that to go. I'm powerful. I am powerful because I have information. Knowledge is power. Information is power and that's why they don't want you to have information because they want the power for themselves,

but I want you to have the power. That's so lame. That's bad. Yeah. I can recite most of the Bill of Rights. There's amendment one, two, three. How many are in the Bill of Rights? I just know the second one.

That's most of it. That's mainly the one. Yeah. The first one has a lot more words than I remember. I love. I thought it was just I get to say whatever I want to say, but I love that like knowledge is power after saying most. So that would suggest somebody who knows all of the Bill of Rights is more powerful, much more power. Yeah.

Okay. I would love the idea of like just being a guest in studio and being like I know most of the Bill of Rights. Say up. Yeah. What are they name them right now right now right now right now right now right now. What's the sixth amendment? We don't talk about the sixth amendment that much. Tell me what the sixth one has no idea.

No clue. So in this next clip, Alex gets to talking about how you know media media is trying to take people's rights. Just oppose the president said about not panicking and about America isn't a bunch of cowards with the nanny state. If we can save one life, we've got to shut everything down and you've got to carry a phone that tracks you and you've got to take an inoculation and Bill Gates has a new tattoo where it stitches it into your skin. All right. It's invisible except under a scan and it puts the actual micro microchips into your skin under the skin and sewn in so you can't cut them out. Are they made of nano? Cut a little big patch of your skin out.

Just two weeks ago, David Knight broke that. Now it's all over the news and China's doing it and everybody's doing it and it's all here. The Mark of the Beast, everything happening, totally insane. The White House were the ones who are trying to request the ability to track everyone by their cell phone data. It was that was not the media doing that. That was Trump and his employees. Alex can pretend all day that his hero isn't doing the exact same things these claiming the villains are doing, but that doesn't make it true. Also, that story about the vaccine tattoos is no more true than it was when it was a lie a few days ago.

That's true. There's research into a possible invisible tattoo that could be used as a vaccine record, but it's nowhere near ready for implementation. The only citation Alex has about this is a headline that says quote Asia deploys innovative if invasive tech to curb virus, which does not mention these tattoos at all, but kind of sounds like it might if you only read the headline. It could if you weren't paying attention. Yes, it could. You know, honestly, there are so many things that could be in there if you weren't paying attention. Oh my God, just imagine what kind of innovative invasive tech might be in that article.

That probably shoe knives. God, our show would be so much more interesting if I didn't read articles. You could be talking about shoe knives all day. So Alex is celebrating that the market is going back up. Trump is saying people need to go to work. I hate him. Yeah, let's look at a moment and see where the Dow Jones industrial average is today in this tug of war to drive it down. It's up.

It's up. Wow. 1,733 points because Trump said we're probably going to open for business in a couple of weeks. That's not a reason to go up. The stock market went up with 5,000 points or so because they've been suppressing us by design and only letting you build in China and India and other areas. That's the global's plan. They guarantee the Chinese century. And then once he got into office and went up even more.

So as soon as he's confident and has a response, but then says, Hey, are we a nation of cowards? Really? That's what he said. Then as soon as that balance comes in, there's confidence again in the markets, even though the Democrats are holding up the stimulus package and we'll give you the latest on that. Alex shouldn't be in favor of these bailouts. Half of his problem with Obama was supposed to be the stimulus package and how it was fiscally irresponsible. This can't keep his goddamn principles straight. It's just disorienting.

This makes no sense. No. Also, I would like to make a formal prediction. I rarely make predictions on this show, but I feel 100% confident of this. All right, let's see it. If Trump does rush people back to work, Alex will celebrate it. Then if things get as bad as experts are suggesting that it could, Alex will pretend he wasn't in favor of that plan. And in fact, it was the globalists like Mnuchin who forced Trump to sacrifice the good people of this country to save the international bankers money in the stock market.

At the behest of all liberals everywhere, especially led by Bill Maher, king of the left, Steve Mnuchin. Yeah. No kidding. Yeah. This will almost certainly be how he rewrites it. I'm almost positive. It writes itself. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. This is not hard cause cause a disaster and then blame everybody else for it. It is like the stock market going up and down in the past few weeks has made me want to start fires because it's just it's just pretend. Yeah. It goes up because he says something that he probably won't do. So there's a thousand points that go up and then tomorrow it's going to go down by a thousand points. It doesn't mean anything.

No. It's empty. Why are we still pretending it does? It's very. It's very strange. It's kind of surreal to watch. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. It's like what are we doing here? It does. I don't know about starting fires. I think that's irresponsible at someone's house burned down triggering me. Fair enough. I apologize. I apologize for that.

I would say that it might be an indication that we need to rethink how that whole thing works. That's why once things settle down, maybe we take a look at this whole thing about markets. Absolutely. Let's figure out how to do this better. That's why we got to elect Joe Biden for president Dan and make sure that I think I read a tweet that he's never had stocks. I don't know if that's true or not, but I saw it on Twitter. Sure.

Why not? So anyway, this next clip, I really I think that this is a pure form of Alex. I think this is really his soul on display and he's reading a bunch of headlines that are people who have warnings about the disastrous consequences that could come from us not taking a very responsible pose. Right. Towards the the circumstances that we're in right now and how bad things could be DC closes businesses.

Louisiana has fastest growing case in the world. America. Maybe the epicenter says the U.N. Governors clamp down even as president considers easing reopening economy too early. Good backfire. Plot of unemployment claims sparks to lay checks Goldman by gold now. Italy may set heavy. What happens when all doctors are infected?

What happens? What happens? What happens when you panic? Because you have it. But you're not even sick. Farewell. Invite students back to Liberty campus. Fall well.

He's protecting them. Denver exempts pot shops. Liquor stores from stay at home order. But gun shops closed. America is looking for a center warning. Massive bailout bill close. Fire India lockdown. Virus lingers on service for 17 days.

Dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun. Dun dun. America is done. Dun dun. Just because Trump signal a little bit of confidence the stock market shot up 1700 points on the Dow Jones industrial average. That right there is the image I want you to keep in your mind of Alex Jones. If this gets worse and the realization that this isn't a globalist plot sets in, remember that fucking monster. Remember Alex Jones as the person who mockingly read headlines about the possibility of all doctors being infected with the coronavirus.

Remember Alex Jones as the person who mockingly read a headline about the possibility that reopening businesses prematurely could have horrible consequences. Remember him like that because that's who he is. Alex has made all the money he can off this crisis, so he doesn't really give a shit anymore. He stopped selling the food buckets, most likely because he caused a run on his supplier who couldn't keep up with the artificially inflated demand. According to info wars website as of March 25th. They're opening backup orders quote for a very limited time, but it's also being called pre orders and there's like a 12 week delay on deliveries. So this is no longer going to be something he can push with the same intensity. If the whole idea is that the shit is about to hit the fan so you need to act now to get this food.

It's hard to balance that with buy this now and you'll get the food in like three months. At the same time, the New York Attorney General's letter clearly has had its effect and he knows better than to try and insinuate that his products are protection from or solution to the virus, which is how he was marketing them for a stretch where, you know, he was more interested in making the audience afraid of the virus. There's no financial incentive in Alex making the audience afraid that way anymore, so he's not doing it. As it stands now, he has nothing to gain from making the audience afraid of the virus. So he's moved the rhetoric to the some people will get it. There'll be some deaths, but it's like the flu talking point because that's where it is and because he's a psychopath like most of them. Where is the money right now? The money is in not losing money and an economic shutdown stands to lose Alex a ton of money.

He can make the argument all day that his business is exempt from the shutdown and he might be right, but in a time of difficulty and layoffs, how many of his ridiculously priced pills do you think he's going to be selling? Do you when his listeners are choosing what's essential? Do you think bone broth is going to make the cut? I think for a surprising number of people it will and that bums me out. I don't think so. Bums me out real hard. This is Alex Jones pure and simple. He may not have always been like this, but this is who he's grown into a vapid, cruel, profiteering monster. And if you need any further evidence that Alex Jones is a piece of shit and he's only driven by his own bottom line, you can find it buried in that clip. You responded to it a little bit and it's this. Plot of unemployment claims sparks to lay checks Goldman buy gold now.

Right there you see a momentary flash of him remembering that he used to make a lot of money selling gold off narratives just like this. He remembers it and there's a moment of, huh, but there's no money in it for him to pitch gold to his audience now so he doesn't. That's the tell. That's how you know he doesn't mean what he sells if he philosophically believed in buying gold. That part of his show wouldn't have curiously ended when Ted Anderson lost his precious metals license. If Alex believed the magical gold he sold his audience for years and then that was the answer to the imaginary financial collapse. He kept prophesying he would keep telling them to buy gold and you'd be telling people to buy gold now even though he wouldn't be getting a cut for the last month so we would have been hearing and being like all right everything's going to go to hell buy gold now. Hey look, I don't have any sponsor, but there's plenty of him go find somebody who sells gold.

Yep, he doesn't do that because he's a fucking fraud. Uh-huh dick. Yep. This guy sucks. I can't believe that there. I can't believe how many people are buying the line man. So many people are buying the line. Such a weird line.

Such a the line is people are willing to die in a pandemic for you. That's wild. That is a wild line. Yeah for the for the we should. Oh man. It's sane. It's it's a mess. Yeah.

We need to end abortion so we can kill the old people and then we'll restart. Makes sense. Man. So Alex goes to calls and he takes one call and I don't know. I think this guy is all that great. I went on the CDC website. CDC.gov and I was trying to find who told you the virus in in the US and I could not find anything or anything on there.

Well, you got cities where there are hundreds of people that have it and nobody's died yet. So they're going to try to suppress those numbers as much as they can because the CDC is quietly working against Trump. He's about to get fired. So he's finally saying Trump's doing a good job. I got to say there was a time when I would have said Trump would never fire the guy who's been the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases since 1984 in the middle of an active pandemic.

I get it. Those days are gone. I give it a week. Yeah. Max. I hear Alex say that and I don't think it would surprise me too much to be fired Fauci and replaced him like Jared Kushner or Triple H. Yep.

I don't know. Might as well. Also, McMahon is free, right? Also, Fauci is with the NIH, not the CDC. What are you going to do? I'll go ahead and sign off on half of what that caller is saying. And as much as the CDC's website is not the best depository of information. The information he's looking for is easily available, though.

I don't know why he insists he has to find it on the CDC's site, but I'll agree with him. Their website could be better. That's true. Also, if there are cities where they have confirmed cases but not deaths, that does not necessarily mean that they will all be recoveries. It's also possible that these cases are still active cases. Something Alex is just seeming to pretend doesn't doesn't exist.

Doesn't happen. Anyway, this next clip was staggering. Everything in it is made up. Okay, just about everything in this. Listen very carefully because there's a bunch of points where Alex is just like sort of, you can almost hear him in a writer's room. Yeah, bouncing ideas of the blue sky thinking blue sky thing. Yeah, it's shocking.

This is all a globalist lockdown so government can be a savior and so big tech can push a force inoculation. It's all about medical tyranny. But the virus is just now starting to explode. It is going to kill a bunch of old people. And it'll kill some other people as well, just like every other pneumonia virus or flu virus guys, and even greater numbers. And so this is just, they went, oh, people aren't scared of old viruses.

They're scared of new ones and they're scared of stuff out of China. So China took a real outbreak and some real problems, told their people, go ahead and videotape it. Put it on the internet. They normally don't have any freedom to do that. You get locked up for that. And so they all do. They did lock someone up.

The party said, the party controls everything. They put the word out, hype this up, hype the numbers up, hype the death numbers up. That's now Wall Street Journal admits China lied about the numbers so they were much higher to get the maximum fear. Then they went, oh, it's no problem now. We're back to work. Knowing the globalist media would then hype up an 18 month shutdown of the U.S. as a giant scythe to where have Trump didn't respond properly.

Every death would be his fault. It is a cooked up globalist plot ordering the Chinese to do this with a man made virus. So they would know the trajectory of it. This is Wow all made up Wow. And what's amazing about it is a lot of it directly contradicts his previous narratives. This is staggering. I want to, I want to take this piece by piece or at least a lot of these pieces because they are going to hurt my brain.

Quote, they said people aren't scared of old viruses. They're scared of new ones. Alex is making that up. I would be dead certain that if a new vaccine resistant widely transmittable polio showed up or like a vaccine resistant version of measles came around, people would be pretty fucking scared of the old virus. Old hat boring. I would scare the shit out of you.

Oh, are we going to watch reruns of the match game to Dan? No, we didn't. We left that shit in the car sharks. Quote, they're scared of things out of China. So China took a real outbreak. So Alex thinks this is a real outbreak. I thought Obama sold it to China and they released it on themselves as a false flag or something and it was a man made weapon, but it's a real outbreak.

Yeah, I don't know. Quote, China told their people go ahead and videotape that and put it on the internet. Right. So with no evidence, no supporting information at all, Alex has just decided to report that the Chinese government produced or facilitated all those videos that he's previously used to scare his audience, which is like this. I saw a haunting video last night. You probably won't be able to find this easily.

It was in Chinese and it was just a video filmed in Wuhan of all the apartment buildings at night in the background and the screams, the haunting blood curdling screams from people, the mental anguish. I want to see this. Will you send this to us? I will. Yeah. We've got the link.

So that was from February 24th. That was a China putting out propaganda. The now Mike Adams and Alex are disseminating. It's it's even more infuriating because they tried to stop it. They put the man who leaked it into jail and then let him die of Corona virus. No, no, no, not it's the complete opposite. She was like it's not even it's not even wrong. It's demonstrably the opposite.

Not that's a fake news about the guy going. So the next piece quote and so they did what Xi Jinping and the party said they put the word out to hype this up. Alex is completely making that up. He has no evidence of it. It's completely pulled out of thin air as he's just riffing around quote. Hype the numbers up. Hype the death numbers up.

Now that's now Wall Street Journal admits China lied about the numbers that they were much higher. First things first about who's specifically guilty of lying about inflated numbers out of China. You'd be wise to consider that Alex spent multiple days on his show back in early February pretending that probably a glitch on a website had revealed secretly that there were actually over 24,000 deaths from Corona virus in China as of February 6th dish. Corona virus situation and all these top biological weapons experts and top scientists

of the virus and saying it's man made. We've got to get ahead of this and if you notice the virus numbers and maybe we can punch those back up for a moment while we're waiting for the president. The official World Health Organization says 28,000 confirmed while I walked in here a few minutes ago was 24,000. But the internal Chinese numbers that leaked and were actually published in China by the People's Daily said 24,000 dead yesterday. So what we think they're doing is they're just putting the number of dead as the number

of infected. Think about that. So that wasn't an isolated incident. Alex reportedly suggested that China was under reporting the number of sick and dead because at that point it was in his financial interest to make the virus itself seem as bad as possible and China is evil as possible. Like that is ridiculous. He's saying that China over inflated their numbers.

He was the one who did that. Yeah. Well, I mean that's of course they did Dan. He did it and he only has good ideas. But I guess if he thought that that 24,000 was actually China reporting that number as opposed to a propaganda narrative that him and his buddies cooked up claiming that China right. Then I guess that's probably what he's doing.

But that means he's high on his own supply. Yeah. That's nonsense. No, I don't buy that. I have literally no idea what Alex is talking about when he says that the Wall Street Journal admitted that China lied about the numbers saying that they were higher than they actually were. I think he was just lying about that one. I think so.

I can find plenty of articles that suggest that there's a good chance that China particularly in the early stages under reported cases. But I legitimately can't find any credible source that suggested that they over reported. Now it's in Alex's financial interest to downplay the virus itself and focus on building the narrative that China intentionally built up some kind of hype. So he's completely fabricating a story about Xi commanding people to take videos and Wuhan to scare the Americans. If that was Xi's plan though, Alex did a great job of playing his part in it.

So then he goes on quote. It's a cooked up globalist plot ordering the Chinese to do this with a man made virus, which was a real outbreak. It was of a man made virus made the real outbreak that the Chinese I guess, but it's all. I mean it's all completely made up. Yeah. So then it's so even internally in this little chunk right here. It's not possible for the Chinese to have taken a real outbreak.

Well, I mean I guess it depends on what you define as a real outbreak. I guess, but then it's still just there's a way to over complicate things and make a man made virus a real outbreak. I'm going to say I'm going to I'm going to pass on that. So the virus isn't man made and Alex has absolutely no evidence that these unnamed and shadowy globalists told the Chinese government to do anything. Also in bad news for Alex, an article recently came out from the Scripps Research Institute that completely ruins the man made virus theory.

Christian Anderson, the author of the study said quote by comparing the available genome sequence data for known coronavirus strains, we can firmly determine that SARS coronavirus two originated through natural processes. They found solid evidence of a natural origin for the virus and more importantly disqualifying evidence that it was made in a lab. One of the main pieces of evidence on that front was that they found that the virus has a unique backbone. Whereas if someone were trying to create this in a lab, they would have to use an existing

virus as backbone or the basic molecular structure and then they would build the virus from there. Right, right, right. They can't just build a virus from scratch. They wouldn't be able to because they wouldn't know if the backbone would be able to infect people. Right, right, right. It would take a massive amount of research necessary to be disqualifying.

It would preclude you from being able to do that. Yeah, the fact that the coronavirus has its own backbone essentially disqualifies it as possibly being lab created and the fact that its backbone is very similar to related viruses known in the wild makes the possibility of it being a product of natural evolution incredibly almost absolutely definitively likely signify. Yeah, yeah. I guess you can believe all these scientists whose articles published in the Nature Medicine Journal or you can believe Alex Jones who just makes things up to see whatever moody

is in on a given day you and choose or the president whatever you and choose whatever you want to do there. Yeah, so that clip is all just made up at all the little pieces of it and it's it you even like trick like found two things in there that are specifically like counter to reality and and I I'm I certainly you know great, but they're counter to his exactly. That's what's so abusive about it. It hurts me and it on all of this made up shit is in service of justifying the deaths of so many people potential deaths.

Yes, yeah. Well, I mean in his mind they're already done because that's what he's saying right there. He's saying he has many times said we're all dead already old people are going to die. Some young people are going to die to and then he goes on this whole thing. So all of this is in justification for what he thinks is already happened. You know what's inevitable, which is the deaths of so many hundreds of thousands of people. Yeah cool, but that's because you have to be more scared about the Great Depression that will be coming because seven million people starved to death during it.

We'll have more food is out promoting courage saying America wasn't built to shut down and power and fear. Maybe we should rebuild it. The Chai Khan economy is back up and running and that we're going to have real mass death in this country. If we have the food supply breakdown of depression, seven million is estimated by major universities starved to death during the Great Depression. Watch the grapes of wrath. It's basically a documentary major universities again grapes of wrath as a documentary. That sounds right. It's so much of the rhetoric is entirely based just on this image of the seven million dead in the Great Depression that it's he it's lazy. It's it's lazy work.

So Alex has read an article or headline in foreign policy and pissed him off. The media wants 18 months the U. N. The C. F. R. I have articles here from the Council on farm relations they say the shutdown must be total. It must be complete. Sorry, America. The full lock down is coming. This was from a week ago. And it's when I read this from foreign policy dot com. I went, Oh, that's the C. F. R. for the Washington Post. I clicked on Laura Garrett. She's a Council on farm relations fellow. And she talks about sorry, America's over. Sorry, you'll not see that one again for months and months and months. And yes, you're going to have a depression. That's liberal. That's how their investments. I bet she's heavily invested in China. They all are.

That's them trying to prop up their investment. They bet against America. You lost, lady. So I read that article that Alex is talking about. And it's just this writer posting an op ed that has a position that people should start to consider the fact that things make it worse. And it would be wise to observe the examples of countries a little further down the path like Italy to get a sense of what could be coming. I grant that some of the stuff is pretty stark and may come off as a little bit extreme, like, you know, having a saying goodbye to friends for a while, you know, like that kind of thing. But we have phones, but Lori Garrett is basically just writing a piece that's meant to offer some realistic concrete advice for people who might end up in a similar position as people in Italy are in now. Alex didn't

look up Garrett and find out that she's CFR. That's in her bio. It's in the article, but Alex fails to point out that she is a quote former senior fellow for global health at the Council on Foreign Relations former Steve Pachennik's former CFR. Alex also left off a few relevant things about her resume, like how she won the 1996 Pulitzer Prize for explanatory journalism for her work covering the outbreak of Ebola. I don't think she has any relevant expertise though. Ebola is a different thing. She's won two poke awards for books covering public health crises. So I think that she's a bit. Why would anybody talk to her on this? Sure. Alex is just making up that she's invested in China. He has absolutely no idea who she has investments in, even if she even has any. He's just coming up with a fabricated accusation. He can use to tarnish her credibility because

that's the level of work that he does in his audience except. And I'm going to be. I will agree with him this one time. It is. I consider it to be far more liberal to choose great depression over mass graves liberal. I'm going to go with. Yeah, I'm fine with that. I am going to say that you can paint me that way if you want to because the opposite means you would rather choose mass graves over a recession. So fuck off liberal. So Alex is really really pushing the sort of main prongs that I see of his. Everyone go back to work, minimizing the virus narrative are the the seven million people died of starvation and a great pressure. That's one and then the other prong is everybody dies from the flu, particularly people in Italy. Right most Italians have left Italy was I guess speak almost 60 million people have 60 70,000 deaths a year from flu. We are 300 plus million. We have 35,000. Why?

Well, because you made up that. Yeah, because it's because it's it's imaginary. Right. So Alex is talking about like, it's no big deal. You get the coronavirus, right? Incubate for a while, then you sick for a little bit. It's all good. No big deal. If you're not super ill, also people think they had it months ago. It incubates for 10 to 14 days. Then it takes seven to nine days while you're sick. And then after that, you're not even communicable. So people have respiratory issues. People have flu. They have they have colds. They have pneumonia type stuff. Let them die. Think they're dying. So I mean, Alex has the basic incubation period correct here and there's some preliminary research showing that, you know, it can last about 10 days of active illness. But the point Alex is driving at here is absurd. Some studies have suggested that you're the most contagious in that period when you don't know you have the virus when you're

asymptomatic. So if everybody follows his advice of only practicing some distancing, if you feel really sick, there's a really good chance this will spread completely out of control. The bigger issue I have here is how this is a complete betrayal of Alex's established narrative about the virus. He's saying that it's no big deal. It incubates for about two weeks, then you get about a week and I have a sickness and after that it's clear. What you got to do that's what you it's a bad month, huh? One of the major consistent features of Alex's content over the past weeks has been about how this is a secret new HIV that the globalists have unleashed on the population. And part of that in his mind is that even after you recover, the coronavirus keeps coming back. They have introduced airborne 2.0 HIV and nobody's getting away from it. Everybody's already got it. And six months from now when the kids are everywhere and that's what Trump knows, he has been trying to hold back the kids and

understand why. Well, he tries to assess what's happening. Oh, it still hurts. When everybody finds out that basically 90 percent, it's not going to be 70 percent. We told you, you know, six weeks ago it'll be probably half. No. Everyone's going to get this. You could go hide out in a basement somewhere. You're not getting away from it because once it gets in a body, the human body incubates it, spews it out. It's a tiny bioweapon virus that floats around last days, even in the sunshine and is coming for you. I think I think this is a serious threat and it's going to go. I've never heard you this alarmist before.

No, well, here's here's the thing. If it comes back again and again, the person, in fact, they've already said that. And if it isn't as bad as we think, we at least did what we had to. Yeah. Well, reinfection is more dangerous. I just saw an article. Oh, that's confirmed. It's like AIDS. It comes back. And the second time it comes back, it attacks your heart. This has been a standard element of the story about the virus that Alex has used to create the fear in his audience. You can see now how that element is no longer useful to him. So he just discards it entirely, which he's capable of doing because he was just making it up to begin with.

He doesn't believe any of the shit he's saying. So once something's no longer in his interests, fuck it. And that may be like a week from now. If he wants to, he can just be like, Oh, remember when I said it keeps coming back? Yep. Then this, what he's saying now will be forgotten. Okay. So you're, you're a couple of weeks.

You're it's incubating. You're not even sick, right? Then you're sick for a couple of weeks, you know, no big deal. Then you're fine for a couple of weeks while the virus re germinates inside you and you're sick for a couple of weeks. That gives you 50% of the year. That's fine. Dan, that's not bad. You can be at the office. We got to keep the economy going.

Right. So Alex goes to calls and he takes another call. Who's dumb? Yeah. I mean, they had articles out. I was just reading that they were expecting Italy to have the worst flu season, the most death back the first of January. You know, are these deaths even, are they more than normal? Are there hospitals?

You know, they're showing us they're over. No, that's right. New York Times, Washington Post all in January said Italy previously lost 70,000 in one year. Now they're still to lose even more in 2020. And now we're told it's Corona. But I mean, how many of them? I mean, the Corona virus has been around forever. Are all the best that they say flu and Corona every year of some other strain at Corona virus?

I have bad news for the scholar. The article he's referring to about Italy having its worst flu season in 14 years is from the local. And if you check the date on that article, he would see that it's from January 19th, 2018. Oh, no, you don't have to check the dates on it. That article describes a very high number of flu cases, approximately 3.8 million between September 2017 and January 14th, 2018. This is about where the country hit the peak of a particularly bad flu season, the worst 14 years. And this gigantic number of flu cases resulted in 140 serious hospitalizations and 30 deaths. There is another article in the local about the 2019-2020 flu season from January 2020, which reports a slightly lower number of total cases,

which had resulted in 240 deaths. These numbers are much lower than the expected actual death toll from influenza-like diseases and related complications each year in Italy, but it's legitimately nowhere even close to where Alex and his dumb, dumb caller are suggesting. This caller has no idea what he's talking about, and Alex doesn't either, but it sounds good to this new framing, so he throws in his 70,000-dia gear in Italy from the flu. That stat that he's fallen in love with, and now he can suggest to his audience that Italy is just faking this whole thing. Toss it into the bowl. Just put it into the mixture. We're making jungle juice, Dan, with all of our lives. So this is all bullshit, right? But you've got to consider Alex's resume.

I don't. Thank you so much. I have a question, but before that question, I just want to let everyone out there know that it's a new caller to InfoWars. How important you are to this InfoWars and to this country. Alex Jones, for anyone that doesn't know, is the person that discovered and got into Bohemian Grove, the person that exposed Janerino and the Clintons during the Waco massacre with Posse Commitatus on our own American soil, the Clinton Foundation, David Gergen. That interview is still on YouTube, and if anyone wants to see something amazing,

and it's when you went into Bohemian Grove and then you confronted David Gergen, and he was completely spooked. Amazing. You're right. We need to get all of those famous reports that people don't know about that were so, so revealing and reposso since most of it was taken off YouTube and banned on video. This caller is so indicative of a person who's just accepted everything Alex says is true with no interest in reality. Alex didn't discover Bohemian Grove. There are plenty of people who talked about it prior to him from the mainstream media to a 1989 piece and spy magazine, all well before Alex did his publicity stunt. Alex didn't expose Janet Reno or Hillary Clinton during Waco.

For one, that's rewriting history a little bit with the lens of the Hillary obsession, considering there was Bill who was president back then, but let's just forget about that. She was the shadow president, Dan. Back and Alex did get a lot of attention for trying to help rebuild the Branch Davidian Church in Waco, and it was a huge part of his early identity, but he didn't expose anything. The standoff happened in 1993, years before Alex was on the radio, but you know who was on the radio already? Bill Cooper. You guessed it.

Bill did tons of episodes about Waco and interviewed a lot of the people who Alex uses as big sources, like Linda Thompson and her pseudo documentary, The Big Lie. Alex hasn't broken any actual stories about the Clinton Foundation. He has yelled about them a bunch, though, so there's that. Alex's interview with David Gergen is kind of funny, but I don't know if it really achieved anything. It's just Alex telling David Gergen that he snuck in with a camera to Bohemian Grove and Gergen saying, hey, man, that's not cool. You're supposed to keep that stuff secret. If Alex had captured any footage that elicited a response in me and beyond like, that's weird,

then maybe this would have been a gotcha moment. But from everything Alex has in his documentary, I don't think I care if people at the Grove keep what they do their secret. This caller is such a great example of someone who doesn't stand a chance. He's willing to believe that Alex Jones is fighting a completely unspecific but totally real enemy that seems to change their plans based on Alex's whims who are super powerful to the point of controlling pretty much all the world, but can't seem to handle a dumb radio host who can't be bothered to read things past headlines. His caller is willing to believe that because he too cannot be bothered to read past headlines. No, that's it's hard.

It's hard. It's a cyclical thing. It is like sometimes you look at this and you think maybe people are just too dumb to live, you know, like like as a as a whole like sixty percent of people approve of how Trump is handling this shit. He's killing us. What is it? That's what you find, but I can't. I don't.

Who are these people? It's it's tough, but you know, too dumb. We're just too dumb. We're just too dumb. People who are dumb. You got Alex talking about Missouri congressman, congressperson, Josh Holly. Oh God. And Senator from Missouri, Holly, he came out and Holly and China's got to pay.

They're behind this whole damn thing with the globalist. I mean, they brag in the CFR. They brag that they moved everything to China with one side of deals. It's called treason. Josh Holly sucks, but Alex is still kind of lying about what he said. Of course he is. Holly went on Hannity on Tuesday to promote his call for a quote internal investigation into China's actions related to the outbreak. Alex wants the audience to think that this matches up with his narratives about the globalists telling China to release a bio weapon or some shit,

but it doesn't. Holly is just talking about the accusation that China didn't act promptly and tried to cover up the initial outbreak. This is basically just a young Republican senator saber rattling at China to keep the base happy. While also doing some timely scapegoating to distract from the fact that their party's president is handled this outbreak as poorly as one probably could. Although wait to be fair. There is the fact that Trump secretly ordered an emergency. That's right months before he actually did. I forgot about it.

But also Alex has stopped saying that because he's not really interested in that anymore. It's really hard to defend narrative is kind of falling away to defend. Oh also the millions of deaths that his fake lieutenant colonel friends told them. But okay there's that talking about that. There's that right. You know you say that weird. All right. Weird.

Crazy. Yeah. These these these times. You know people expect you to remember what happened two weeks ago. Two weeks ago. That was six years ago. Yeah. So what Alex is doing is basically changing a whole bunch of like really central things.

It seems or these things that seemed kind of important because Trump needs to stay in line with Trump. Absolutely. But he doesn't just want to defend Trump. It's not like I even want to defend the president. He's like always in the right. And they're always lying about what's really going on just like they do about info wars. I'm going to tell listeners again. I'm not saying you shouldn't take this virus seriously.

I'm not saying you shouldn't get ready for it. I'm not saying it isn't going to kill some people. But who's telling us what to do. The media that says they want to crash the economy and it is and they're saying China. Don't worry about it. That's all forgotten. They say it didn't come from China. It's not a Chinese virus.

It's Trump's fault. So Trump has to go back and remind everybody that he tried to block the air travel and the Democrats said don't do it. Now they're blaming him for not doing enough once it's gotten into the country. They have their dirty state fingerprints all over it. Yuck. Yuck. Yuck.

Yuck. Oh boy. Oh man. Yep. We have leaders in this great time. I do. True. So Alex goes back from break and he takes another caller and this caller.

Man, if there is a bad idea, this is it. What would happen if there were a massive protest in Washington DC with conservatives and liberals side by side protesting the grievances for the liberties seized by our own government? Well, I think down the road, even a month or so, this isn't turned around. We're going to have to have that March for the show. We are not afraid. We are not afraid. This is not America.

This is not how America was founded. We are not afraid. We are not cowards event. And well, I've been courage the police and military and everybody else to join us because this is a psi hop. It's all about fear, as the president said. That's a real bad idea, but I thought that it was a joke when because I saw some people. I think that Facebook post is a joke.

That's what I thought. I thought it was a joke. Yeah. Because you know the post of like rally rally for conservatives in the yeah that whole thing. I think that's a joke. It has to be. Yeah, but this guy's not joking.

No, which concerns me about that being a joke. Yeah. Yeah, but I mean it's exactly what you would expect. Yeah, I know. It's just that sort of oppositional defiance in the face of like it's like someone yelling at a hurricane or something like that. You know a million man March everybody arm in arm walking down the fucking straight. Yeah.

So we get another caller who is even man. These callers are just whiffing all over the place. What if they're all coronavirus? They're all like a striking out swing. Yeah. I really see that they're trying to shut down America and they're trying to shut down the countries worldwide and it makes me wonder like why are they releasing all these inmates for like I never seen this happen before.

We should have a March. I guess. Ruckus cause chaos. Oh, absolutely. All these are releasing hardened criminals, not to stop the virus, but to create as much bedlam. So this caller seems to think there's some kind of a supervillain plot going on like where the Joker springs all the inmates from Arkham to overwhelm Gotham's police department.

That's legitimately with these idiots. Think is happening because their worldview is so based on fiction that reality and comic books are indistinguishable. It really is. I'm going to help this caller out. Here's the situation you end up with when you have an active pandemic and prison overcrowding. You can either release a ton of nonviolent and parole eligible offenders in order to create room for the responsible administration of incarceration and health services for the

violent offenders you want to keep in jail or you can keep everyone in jail and risk horrific consequences. One possible outcome is an outbreak spreading in an overcrowded prison, which is actually happening right now on Rikers Island. No. Right to slate. There are currently 52 people at Rikers who have confirmed cases and 96 more under observation. There are 5000 people incarcerated there and the way the jail is set up.

There's almost no way to stop the spread of this virus since people are housed in such close quarters and the jail is not equipped to be sterilized with sufficient regularity to fight an outbreak. And this is the first time I've ever thought Rikers Island was a bad right given a situation like that you end up in a position where you can act either by releasing people incarcerated in minor offenses or dumping millions into building new housing wings or something like that. Or you can watch as prisoners die locked in cells.

You can tell yourself that they're in prison and they matter less, but if you do, you're a piece of shit. I mean the 13th amendment does tell you that they're in prison and they matter less than everybody else. Now the other possible consequence is an offshoot of this one. If you have a large incarcerated population who are being held in these sorts of conditions where everyone around them is sick and dying and there's a reasonable expectation they're going to get sick too, what's to stop anyone from rioting?

If guards get sick too, the security staff could be run thin and you might put yourself in a position where there's complete chaos at prisons. If you care at all about people or if you're just interested in keeping dangerous offenders in jail and you're not a dumb dumb, the only right choice you can make right now is to free as many nonviolent offenders as you can. If Alex thinks drugs should be legal and you know there's a guy who's in prison for selling weed, why the fuck would Alex not support letting him out no matter what the circumstances? He doesn't want to break or not.

Look, he doesn't want to appear to appear weak on the innocent. Dan, that's he doesn't want you. Look, everybody's like, oh, we got to be mean to the guilty. Let me tell you something. It's the innocent. You really got to take down. You got to imprison them for life. Whatever.

Also, it's not just blue states. Ohio is releasing inmates from Cuyahoga County Jail and their governor is Mike DeWine is a Republican. Not around the world. A lot of places are releasing in yachts, but not in a like positive way, like they're getting out through combining together in their efforts and just breaking free of the fucking prison. Otherwise they're getting killed.

So Alex you watched Hannity because of course because he's got a lot of new ideas and he's going to use a segment on Hannity in order to help him with a sales pitch Howard New York here. Hannity's released the info said he had 350 patients with the coronavirus and had a 100% success rate of curing them with three things. And guess what we've been saying on air for a long time. Zero deaths, zero hospitalization, zero innovations. Guess what's on the list.

It starts with a Z Z Z Z Z Z. Unbelievable to be clear. Alex is only excitedly reporting on this because it's a way for him to help sell his real red pill supplement that has zinc in it. The other avenues for him to scare monger aren't as open to him anymore. So this is his best approach. Go really overboard on the zinc thing. And honestly, like he can't help himself.

He has this method of selling and whatever is the avenue that's going to be like, you know, no attorney general wrote me about the zinc yet. And he might be in a much more defensible place there because there are like health benefits of taking zinc. Yeah, you know there there is they're not solving coronavirus boy. I'll tell you they're not ninety seven to ninety nine percent effective in killing the viruses. Yeah. I think he might be like I said he's going way overboard.

He's going he's going but it probably feels a lot safer to him than a lot of the other knows that zinc is no. The problem is nobody knew what nano silver was, but now that they know it's zinc, they'll be like that's fine. So the whole story here is that Sean Hannity claimed that he had a letter from a New York doctor who said that he had about five hundred patients and he cured them all with not just zinc, but also hydroxychloroquine and is a through myosin. Steve Pachennic works at the New York hospital.

That's not him. Also, there's no proof that this is a real letter or a real doctor. There's no proof that this alleged doctor has in fact cured anyone. This could legitimately all be bullshit. But even if it is a real doctor and he has this many patients recovered from this drug cocktail, it's still not sufficient to claim that the drugs caused the recoveries. There could be any number of reasons that they recovered completely unrelated to the drugs that you need to have much more data to back this up and you don't know how science

works. You send a letter. Do not care at all. So we've had some dumb callers and I regret to inform you that this one takes the case. Is it Mike Adams? No. And the other thing I wanted to throw out and this is a really radical idea that we are not saying that I believe, but I felt like I would throw it out there because there's

a doctor, Dr. Terry Tillard, T-I-L-L-A-A-R-T has done a webinar on Facebook. It was posted to his page on the 22nd of March of this year. It says there is no virus. There are no viruses. Five experts weigh in. One of them being John Rappaport. I like John, but I don't think he's just John. I was just thinking viruses.

Well, I'm not saying that he says that, but he's one of the ones that was interviewed on this webinar. There's two important things. Alex does not tell her like this is ludicrous. Yeah. You don't listen to people like that. People are saying there are no viruses. Viruses don't exist.

You didn't realize that virus denial is a thing. He is in a position where like he responds to earth like well, you know, you got to have the conversation. Let's let's let's entertain this idea that maybe viruses don't exist. Man second important thing. Alex wasn't sure if John Rappaport does believe in virus. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. You should be sure of that.

Yeah, that's a thing you should be sure. I like John Rappaport, but I don't think he thinks that viruses are fake. That does sound like something he could believe Alex does not know the beliefs of the people that he promotes as experts. I can't imagine why people wouldn't want to show up to work. That's not good. No, I think that John Rappaport's part in that video. I was going to watch it, but it's really long.

He's just very boring picture. I don't even know John Rappaport is in it, but I think he's used as an expert, but it's just for HIV AIDS denial. So that's the section of the thing that Rappaport's involved in great. Speaking of experts who Alex doesn't know what they're up to. Steve Pachanik is on and his main point is basically just to be like, Hey man, business is all that matters in America. I agree with Trump and I've always agreed with the notion that he has the

instincts to bring us back to our business. The business of America is business. It does not shut down for any epidemic. It does not shut down for the Corona virus. It doesn't shut down of Martians attack because that's our lifeblood. We can't shut it down. We are the business. We are the economy and that's it.

Man, the only thing we have is all of us collecting and finally just being like, Oh, I get what these guys were doing the whole time. Man, if you go back and you listen to Alex Jones's piece in Richard Linklater's Waking Life where he's driving around in the street yelling into a bullhorn about how like humanity is too good. We're going to we're going to create things that represent the human spirit. Like you take that in like now in 2020. He's on the radio.

He's like business is all that matters. You dick. All of those people who are going to create things out of the human spirit. Look, you got to deliver food. I was just talking about corporations stock the groceries so Amazon can make all the money. Right. Jeff Bezos needs to feed.

So Steve, his position on this is not based on any science I can find particularly. He's given out some bad advice with Fauci and nobody's ever talked about is that there's passive immunity. Those of us who had pneumonia, those of us who are 77. I'm those spring chicken. I have immunity. That means I can go in and work.

There are a lot of people who had some cold in December or January. There's no question in my mind that they were affected with a flu and they have immunity. They go to work. I don't think that you should listen to that advice. I don't. I don't believe that to be based on any studies or any data. That's like that's like a that's dangerous.

I think what he's referencing is basically how cowpox was right helped you grant immunity to smallpox. That was that's his concept there. However, he doesn't understand that viruses like a flu isn't going to fix. He's going to provide immunity to that they influence a virus is a different thing. Right.

I mean it's the same thing with Alex talking about like quinine being helpful for a virus because it solves malaria. It's like malaria is not a virus. Yeah. It's not caused by a virus. Absolutely. Yeah. They're playing real fast and loose here.

That's an unbelievable. Yeah. These guys are just really trying to get people killed. So Steve thinks like you just get a cold. You're cool from now on. You're fine. You're not going to get it and that means he's at odds with the world. Well certainly public health officials, but that soon won't matter

because as he has said in the past and he reiterates he wants them all fired. Unfortunately, Trump had to rely on some of these people and I recommended Fauci initially. But the point is at some point in time, people have to go the surgeon general in the United States. Gotta go. It really is making comments we don't need. I don't need him in the uniform.

Replace him with Ivanka. I don't need Tony. Get rid of him. Let's quantify what you're saying. They keep contradicting. Bill Barr, baby. The French studies shows malaria drug is helpful. Hey, these studies show ZPAC is helpful.

You were saying that here on air two months ago. He's the president. He's allowed to tell people. Hey, we've got some really promising treatments, especially when it's true. No, of course it's true. That French study is flawed. But I love the idea that first of all Steve in the middle of all this is just like fire all of them.

Get rid of. We don't need. We need chaos in the public health sphere. That'll really inspire confidence in first of all the markets and in the population. I want to love it. And then also like it was only a couple of weeks ago that Steve was on the show and thought there wasn't a surgeon general.

And now he wants him fired. Yeah, absolutely. There wasn't supposed to be a certain general. He was saying that Trump needed to appoint a surgeon. Yeah, well he appointed the wrong one. He didn't appoint after. Anyway, Steve is not bringing his best today. So Alex, like I said, he can't help it.

He can't help himself in his sales practices because as the show goes on, he starts to like really push the idea that this zinc that's in his real red pill is a preventative of will have the preventative effect with the coronavirus. People are scared. They understand that it's a lot of time, but that lots of it's real. So what do you do though? If you're not sick yet, you're not going to get the Z pack till you're sick.

What do you do to prevent? The word is it's zinc. We'll be right back with Dr. Steve Picciani. I don't know how much that is illegal, but it feels. I mean, if if making the claim, then what do you do to prevent? Yeah, I mean, that's yeah because the issue is like you're not supposed to sell things except for I think as cures, prevention, right or treatments. I don't know.

I don't know. It's if he it's if he now he's he's this is these guys like it has to be a thing where after at the end of all of this we do have to like get Alex and Hannity and Tucker Carlson and like put them on trial. Well, this is at least a civil trial. Yeah, this is a serious. You guys are actually going to get people. Trump already got people killed. They should at least you know like Trump should be in jail. I do think that if there is ever like a return or return to a bit of sanity, they should be at least bankrupted. Absolutely. Absolutely. This cannot.

This is unacceptable. So Alex goes to calls Steve leaves and he wraps up the show talking to some dum-dums and this guy allegedly has a distant relation who's a nurse and she's treated Corona patients successfully with tonic water. God now to see if you can keep track of who this nurse is the guy who's the caller. This is an issue. If you're giving me this preamble. That's a problem. It's a bit of a maze. Okay. Last week my lady friends, granddaughter, boyfriend came over to visit the boyfriend's mother is a head nurse in a hospital in Austin. She told her, she told her son that

they're using tonic water to cure people with Corona virus in the hospital. Yeah. Wow. Tell us more of what she said because that's what quite nine is in these four is from the British army making the troops drink this watch called tonic. I mean, it's medicine. Sorry. I forgot Steve was still there. So it's this guy. I've written it down. Okay. I've written it down. So his girlfriend. It's this guy's lady friends, granddaughters, boyfriends mom. Yeah. That's a game of telephone right there.

So obviously he didn't talk to the mom. I would assume no. He might have talked to the grandson who talked to the mom maybe or the great daughter's boyfriend of her of her granddaughter right, but he might have talked directly to the boyfriend possible. So that's still second hand to him. The third hand to Alex. Yes, ridiculous. Oh boy. That's how I want my information coming. My great grandfather's sister's daughter's friend who is a nurse, but she's been retired for twenty eight years. She has a second daughter whose condition is a doctor and they were dead. Right. So we have one last clip from

the twenty fourth here and it's another caller who has cured himself. Of course he had virus. I hate these people had this Corona virus back at the same time I think Steve had it first of January and I told my mother at the time I called her up. I said, I think I got the flu, but this just ate the flu. I think I got that rona and I cured it with a colonial silver. Oh, very extract and go to the seal in China. What it took me about six, seven days to get over the bad cough and everything, but I cured it. I know that's what I do. Oh boy. Oh boy. It's it. Don't they have like a bleep? Don't they have a button that somebody could

push the five second delay on the thing that that is probably okay about that is that's a testimonial. That might be not true. No, but he probably believes it to be true. Of course. And so I don't know it's still super misleading. I do like the idea that look after six or seven days of having this virus that I have been told by a large number of people can last six or seven days and many people get a minor version of it and then it's over. I actually cured it with colloidal silver and elderberries and it's not like it just ran its course. No, I cured it. Yep. That's what I did. I'm basically Jonas Salk. I'm I pretty much

invented medicine. So we get to the 25th and boy. I'll tell you what there is a return much like John Cena coming back to the Royal Rumble. Is there is this Aragorn? No, it's fentanyl the Chinese dragon. Hey man, you know what? What better time to throw out some real racism, some real pointed, pointless racism. That's not okay. Is there anybody stopping him from doing this? At a time when Asian Americans are reporting increased hostility and racist abuse being directed towards them. Certainly great to see Alex taking the time to do a start his show with absurd racist sketch. Hey, there's no

crisis. You can't try and turn into a genocide. Yep. So Alex transitions from pre recorded fentanyl the Chinese dragon segment into another impression. He has a mask and so he's doing a bane impression. Gotcha breaking capitalist system finally now only now it's a bad day and will you experience it it's much better they thought it'd be a nice stuff for me to wear one of these, but it was great. That is just too big 19 inch nag as a big neck. That's a big neck. That's a big neck tough to get a suit. So Alex leads the show off. He's finished the

impression. No fucking around. That was the impression. That was the whole thing. Yeah, it wasn't a good impression. I didn't say it was good, but no fucking around. And I refused to. Okay, but Alex has some headlines. As you know, buried in a federal law was a overturning of a second amendment that passed 13 years ago. Yeah, the story just went live on news wars dot com and force dot com. You might want to raise the alarm. So these guys, the tip of the spear didn't know for 13 years that the second amendment has been abolished. They live under Cinderella rules of law like that. Hi, it's midnight, so it doesn't count like what are you talking

about? Yeah, the second amendment to go on for 13 years. Apparently just learned about it. Well, hey, what are you going to do? It seems like it didn't change much. So I wonder what the point of it was. So this is just about a 2007 release from the National Infrastructure Advisory Council under George W Bush, which didn't include gun dealers as essential businesses that should be kept open in emergency situations. I guess it must suck if you're a gun weirdo for gun stores to possibly not be open, but I don't think that counts as the second amendment being shut down. I don't think the second amendment requires that you be able to

conveniently buy a gun at every moment of every day, no matter what. It just seems like an incredibly weak argument, but it's good for Alex because it helps him pivot the coronavirus situation back into familiar waters. He's done the gun paranoia show a million times by now, so he should be able to handle that kind of narrative in his sleep. That's the way you do this. You bring this shit back into the territory you know. God damn. Yeah, gotta have a good look. You know, every morning I wake up and I go check the front stoop and I see that the milk man has left me my customary two bottles of milk and I go down to my local gun

store just to get my morning gun. You know, it's like I get a cup of coffee at Starbucks. I get a gun at the gun store and then I'm ready to start my day. Yeah, and they really fucked it up. What I can only drink coffee now. What am I going to do with my hands if you can't buy a gun at literally every moment, then you basically don't have the right. No easy vote return the second amendment. So at least though at this point the impressions are over. They're not. Let me tell you who we have for you on the broadcast of the worst page. It's quite a list of all. Joseph Watson. What have you never seen the movie from her? Plotinic

Majesties Island judges at the bottom of the hour. Dr. E. Michael Jones, Joel Scalzen, Mark Rondaza and Mike Adams. So he's got Michael Jones back on. We got the rest of that list. I don't really care about at all. I can't even say how little I care about anything. Don't care about Scalzen. Don't care about Paul Joseph Watson. Don't care about Mike Adams. Really don't care about Mark Rondaza. No absolutely former lawyer coming in. Absolutely Alex keeps talking about how like he's coming on because he's an Italian citizen. I don't care. Oh that's bad. But E. Michael Jones coming back on in the middle of this

sort of situation is you get us responsible as a bad sign. No that is a bad sign. It's a it's a harbinger of not do so when I heard that as like that's going to be trouble, but at least the impressions were over. I'm lying and now when we return I'm going to lay out their master plan. Let it is as clear as a clear blue sky. Just sounds like him with a mask on. Wearing one of these him 95 mask. This gentleman can't tell the difference.

But I'm going to get serious. I bet you are. How did he get one of those? In their shortage. I don't know. But hey, you know, nice to hear him empathizing with the medical staff around the world. This wearing this mask is torture. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's okay if medical staff die. So Alex is now like here on the 25th. I think you can really hear that he's pretty much fully on board with the idea that like all this is just a giant hoax. I'm going to lay this out today. The Democrats are announcing the plan to hold America hostage and they're going to work with the corporations to do it. But China is open for business. This is

as clear as the nose on somebody's face that they're using a real virus that they hype up and exaggerate the death rates from to panic everyone and have corporations at the precedent, then governors at the precedent and Democrat cities at the precedent in a partisan move to shut things down, have their own political fever, as they've called it, their own chemotherapy, their own radiation, get rid of the cancerless Donald Trump. And that's what they're doing right now is showing you by bankrupting you that they're the boss and they think they can blame this on Trump. The key is blaming it on them

and the chai comms that will blow up in their dirty, stinking faces like everything else they've tried. They'll back off, but they'll want something new. We start asking after this hoax is over, who will the new hoax be? It's how you know Alex is so full of shit. What's the new hoax? He's already looking on to what the next thing is going to be. That's it's sad. It's sad. It's a very sad thinking, I think it's it's kind of it's kind of amazing that this has just made it so it's like we've got the purest distillation of the two parties like there's no more. There's no more dog whistling or hiding.

It's purely the Democrats are evil because they want people to live and they don't want to reopen businesses. The two party system is now essentially human life versus business and people are still going to vote for business. That's wild. Well it's because seven million people starved to death during the Great Depression wild right and you need people like Alex in order to justify those those ill placed evil governors caring if people die. Well they're trying to hold their cities hostage. Yeah, absolutely the blue cities, especially for caring if people die right. So Alex pointed that out and

I didn't know what story he was talking about, but he has an article that proves it. It's a very important article. Doc McHamsha please. I'll show you here breaking dim governors to hold states hostage in coronavirus lockdown. This allows the deep state to hold the people and the economy hostage triggering a depression and civil unrest driving Trump from office. That's their plan. So that article that Alex is citing is proof that these Democratic governors want to hold cities hostage isn't an article with any sources or any real writing. It's a page on info wars dot com which just has an embedded video of David

Knight's episode from that day. It's not proof of anything. They get to give their articles, whatever headlines they want man. Yep man, pretty sad, pretty sad. Here's what I'm going to do. I'm going to trust David Knight in this kind in this crisis. Sure. That's my plan a name you can trust absolutely. So Alex has been periodically getting a bit racist. Yes, we saw that with the fentanyl the Chinese dragon. That wasn't a bit racist. That was staggeringly racist. We see it a lot. Alex is very racist, but in terms of the outbreak stuff, like in terms of blaming Chinese people, yeah, and trying to

identify the virus itself with Chinese people and in this next clip, I think like he's just so far beyond like the levels of acceptable. This is real scapegoating shit and I don't believe I don't believe the facts of what he's saying and I strongly disagree with the point of what he's saying. And right before the breakout happened three months ago, there were Chinese everywhere. I haven't sat on there. I said, I don't know why Chinese suddenly everywhere in every part of Austin, very wealthy, getting very fancy cars wearing, you know, very expensive watches carrying $10,000. What the fuck is he doing?

It was a bio weapon pilgrimage. They weren't running from it. It was their mission to bring it here and the CDC lied to Trump and said there was no problem. They brought as many as they could here. They distributed people with coronavirus out when Trump eight weeks ago tried to block Chinese flights prove any of that and then also like all the like functional like effect that can really have is making people hurt Chinese people. He just wrote the protocols of the elders of Wuhan. That was it. It's straight up. Look at all those wealthy Chinese people giving you diseases at the behest of

their evil overlords. Yep. That is fucking. Yep. You can't. You can't do that. Yeah, that's but it's kind of the logical extent like the place you would expect this to go, but at the same time Alex is trying to balance it with like it's not a big deal. Yeah, but then I don't know. It's it's just the worst. So Alex has a carpenter friend who doesn't Jesus understand. Nope not it. He doesn't seem to understand that carpenters and building is essential and it's not in the lockdown or whatever. So Alex is a little bit like, Hey, come on, man, you know, they're they have a struggle about whether

or not the business is essential and he has people who are walking off the job site. And Alex just says something stupid, but I got a call from my friend that builds houses. He builds up about three or four houses at a time. Custom houses. He said most his crews walked off that matter. He has the law shown them they're essential. They don't care. They're getting into it. They have quarantine. Good. You see workers unite money. They just don't work or she'll never really get partly any of it, but that's how suckers are. These people have quarantine envy. I everybody longs to be quarantined that that concept

that that a human being would say that out loud. Yeah. Oh boy, but that's how Alex sees it because he's a monster. Yep. So on the last day's episode Alex talked about Josh Hawley and his moves. Yeah. And Alex talks about it a little more here in this next clip. Josh Hawley calls for international probe into China's Corona virus coverup. Big story. Big news wars.com and info wars.com. That's absolutely got to get out. Representative introduced a companion bill in the house. Holly tweeted yesterday. Proud to partner with the other Congress people to introduce this bicameral resolution calling for

China to compensate USA and all other affected countries for the harm and destruction. The Communist Party unleashed with their lives and deception about the Corona virus. Well, the brainwashed masses dutifully cower in their homes on the government behest enemies from within usher in a new era of CPP dominance. So how exactly would Josh Hawley get damages from China? Sovereign country without the existence of some international governing body that could oversee disputes between sovereign countries. Gentleman's agreement ban. Outside of international law that every country

is subject to how would this even work? The very thing that Alex is celebrating this congressperson demanding is legitimately impossible without the very system he's built his career fighting against. Or you would have to take it by a conquest, right? Well, there's that. I mean all that all this is is like this very weird insistence on creating cause for war without without framing it that way. Yeah, like because if Alex truly believes I understand why people die in war. I don't understand viruses. Dan. I'm scared of viruses viruses can hit at any time. You don't see them coming and I can't shoot it with the

gun. But if I start a war, Alex truly believes that the Chinese government deployed this as a weapon, then it's a act of war. It's over. It's over. Yeah, the war is already begun. Yeah, they fought the war and we need to bomb China and that's obviously not the conclusion that you want to reach, but that's the logical conclusion of the rhetoric that Alex is putting forth. It's insane, but I mean that is what he believes. He does believe that this is a weapon and it's an attack. I believe Gigi Ping, who had to deal with Taiwan rebellions and mainland rebellions, released it himself. But we do know it's manmade

and we do know Obama transferred the precursor virus without the HIV delivery system to them, which was then added. I thought it was a real outbreak. We know it came from them. We know it's manmade and we know the Democrats are using it to try to break the country down and cause a great depression. The cities they control hostage until Trump is driven from office and that's the scripting. That's the narrative and we better expose that narrative and we better get that truth out and the president is starting to get on that narrative, which is the narrative of truth. Nope, which is the narrative of victory,

which is the narrative of success, which is the narrative of vengeance against the globalist. Alright, you might might that last one might feel real to you, but you got to stop saying narrative when you're Alex. I would prefer the non narrative of reality. I would prefer the part that's not a story. Yeah, the part that we're interacting with. We need to push this talking point in order to save our own asses. Things are going to get bad. Oh yeah. So Alex now goes to his interview with E. Michael Jones, noted anti-Semite and Catholic fascist. He is on because he made a video about the coronavirus. I bet it's

very measured and has a lot of good advice and it's telling people. Oh, nope. Our guest has done a really powerful video. We'll tell you about and we've only got him for about two and a half segments. We're getting back for longer. E. Michael Jones, Dr. E. Michael Jones. He can also talk about the ADL. They've persecuted him. They want a big bailout. Persecuted him as well. Now a taxpayer money to police everybody in the Internet. So weird. You got a weird, gigantic anti-Semite coming on your show and you start by complaining about the ADL. The ADL is persecuted. This man for his stated goal of eliminating all Jews. Where what is

tolerance if I can't be intolerant? So the E. Michael Jones brings up that professor at Harvard, Charles Liebler Lieber, who was involved with the Chinese government in some way. Okay, that Harvard professor and I think that there's a lot of details about that story that I don't find. I don't know all the details of it. It's a little unclear. I think more will come out over time. Anyway, E. Michael Jones brings this dude up and I think that there's an interesting difference between how he talks about him on this show and how he talks about him on his own website. We've had the exposure of certain groups in the country who have been

involved in espionage and collaboration with the Chinese. One of them is the chairman of the chemistry department at Harvard, Dr. Charles Lieber, who was arrested just as this virus started to take off here. So on Alex's show this is just a professor who is collaborating with the Chinese government. E. Michael Jones makes it sound possibly more salacious than the actual facts of the case might merit, but the thrust of it is just that there's a guy who's collaborating with China. Now I'll read to you from his article on his website Culture Wars quote Lieber who is Jewish was considered a flight risk because of

his ties to Israel, causing authorities to demand that both he and his wife surrender their passports. Lieber is one of the founders of the biotech firm Nonsis, which is affiliated with the Hebrew University in Jerusalem. Lieber being Jewish is very important to E. Michael Jones on his website because that's what his work is all about. He's a gigantic anti-Semite. However, to disguise the true intention of his propaganda, he leaves some of that stuff out when he's talking to someone like Alex. You could cast the wide net and then once people come in, they see what it's really about once they're already ready to hear it man.

Racism is gonna racism pops up real quick whenever there's a crisis doesn't it sure does. So E. Michael Jones is not on the same page as Alex exactly, but he's kind of on the page of the last iteration of the propaganda. He didn't get the new notes. No, certainly didn't. Got to send him a text. Francis Boyle, who was the man who wrote up the anti-bioweapon protocol in the 1970s also believes that it was a bioweapon and he says that there was been back and forth between Winnipeg, their level four biolab and Wuhan as well. So the indication is that it is a bioweapon. Missed the memo. That's disinformation according to Alex. That's back then. Yeah,

come on man. We need to throw that out because we're more interested in saying that the UNC North Carolina Chapel Hill Lab. Come on, built it in Obama, sold it to China. You gotta get rid of the Winnipeg. Come on man. God damn. Yep. The only Alex doesn't correct him because why? Who gives a shit? Yeah, why? Why would you bother? Who gives a shit? That that narrative might as well be true to. We might as well throw it in there today. Why not? It's disinformation, but yeah, look, go ahead. Who cares? And the only confirmed people we have using COVID as a bioweapon happen to be white supremacists. Sure. Yeah, and it's crazy that

eat Michael Jones. Also his big source is Francis Boyle, who's the guy who comes on Alex's show, almost like these. All people are working from the same. Oh well. Yeah, it seems like they get the same newsletter every morning. Yeah, so these people like Alex and he Michael Jones. They're just like they seem very, very willing to accuse people of things that cause wars. The thing that's just occurring to me now is if the Chinese government is saying that this was a weapon and that they have the right to respond, maybe they have responded. This is what occurred to me. Maybe New York was a response to a bioweapon launched by

China. Maybe that's what China did in New York. I mean, this is all speculation at this point. So why are you saying it? I mean, look, what am I not going to say that we have been fighting a secret bio war with China? How am I going to not say that? Listen, I know it's incredibly irresponsible for me to say this. Look, but maybe. Okay. Hey, you know what? Maybe Mexico secretly nuked us. Oh shit. Hey, oh god. Damn it. That was there. That was their response for the Mexican American War. I get it now. Just speculation. It all makes sense. That's right. That's why we don't have Austin anymore. They're on lockdown. It's

incredibly responsible and invisible. Why not? So Alex and E Michael Jones are talking about pornography in this next clip. Of course they are. They end up talking. E Michael Jones is complaining about porn hub, giving people in Italy free accounts. I don't understand how we got to where we are. Well, but here's the thing that's really important about this and play this little clip of their conversation and you need to understand that there is a conversation and then there is a crypto conversation that are happening simultaneously. We're not that again. It's not like oh porn, you know, where these big, you know, you know,

super conservative people that can't handle it. It's meant to destroy families, destroy relationships. It destroys the pleasure of real sex. It destroys families. It is absolutely makes you depressed. It makes men not be highly motivated. It screws up culture. Yeah, pornography is a weapon and it's now being, it was been used as a weapon for the past 50 years and now it's the main weapon keeping people inside and disoriented when they now are forced out there because of martial law. Oh look, you know with boxers, they tell them a month before a fight, do not have sex with your wife. So on the surface, this appears to be just

Alex being opposed to porn because it has negative influences on intimacy or whatever. He's not a fuddy duddy conservative, but don't beat off. Whatever. Who cares? However, if you know what E. Michael Jones believes, this is a deeply anti-Semitic conversation. He believes that the Jews created and promoted pornography as an attack on the non-Jewish family structure. It's a very large piece of his worldview and anyone who's familiar with his work knows this very well. Thus, if you're someone who knows E. Michael Jones and you hear this conversation, I honestly couldn't blame you for thinking that Alex was agreeing

with him that the Jews are attacking families with porno. I don't believe that Alex doesn't know this. I have a hard time believing he'd be so oblivious to the people he platforms that he'd be having a conversation about E. Michael Jones's exact talking points, but leaving out the Jewish part. This reads to me as an intentional attempt to whitewash anti-Semitic rhetoric on his show, but then again, Alex may or may not know if John Rappaport believes viruses are real. So he might be that oblivious. It's possible. Yeah, which is which is bad because then he's doubling down and signing off on E. Michael Jones's anti-Semitic

conspiracy theories about pornography. Jesus. All I'm saying is that maybe Italians have a hard time defining it, but they know porn when they see it. You know what I'm saying? I've seen it a lot now. I've seen a lot of that. All right. I really of course they can't talk about porn and its objectification of women and the many women who are fucking abused in the process. They can't include that at all. They can Jews murdering they can talk about that stuff, but only if the villain is somebody that they want to target. They can't talk about it of its own being a bad thing in and of itself. It has to be used as a as a

means as a weapon. Yeah. Ironically. Yeah. So they talk about the stock market crash and the falling of the stocks. Sure. And E. Michael Jones can't quite figure out if it's the result of the virus or the virus came around because they wanted to crash the stock market. You know, basically Alex is right. Right. Right. Right. Right. And so having a tautological argument. Alex says it's both. They did the crash on purpose and released the virus at the same time to be the smoke screen for the collapse, which would be actually a martial law consolidation that would then be used to drive nationalists from office.

I think there's a plausible explanation and I think that's it. It's not the response I would have. I would go. I think there's a plausible explanation and that is nowhere near it. You're cheating. Take one or the other asshole. Right. So they have gotten around talking about this the virus and it's an attentional bio weapon or something right. It's muddy, but lady friends, granddaughters, boyfriends, mom told me that it's not a bio just of a gin and tonic. So we this is the last clip we have because I'll be honest with you after E. Michael Jones was on. I was like I'm not interested in this. I'm

not listening to any more of the show worth it. Scousins gonna come on and or come on for the shit out of me. Come on. Scousins got takes. I jumped to when Mike Adams took over the show because I wanted to hear what he was bringing to the table and it's all just gold economic talk. I'm like you're not the finance ranger. I'm not listening to your your take on that. So we have this last clip of you Michael Jones and it seems like he's saying that the virus is an act of God, but at the same time I thought it was which God bio weapon Chinese God. I don't know and there have been never been a time when

the oligarchs have had more control over our lives and so it may be that the real message of the Corona virus is that it takes God's hand to break the hold of their hand over all of us. So I don't think they're the ones that released it. Everything is in God's hands. Logos is rising and that's good news. I don't understand what the position is that's being put forth other than he does not into Jewish people and everything is secretly a conspiracy. All right, so here's my take on our position so far. The Chinese did it right. The Jews did it. God did it. Those three. It can't just be like it

can't just be. I don't know man. I am. I'm finding myself disoriented slightly by Alex's work disorienting process. Yeah, yeah. I understand that there are some through lines, you know, like I'm not. I'm not going to sit here and pretend that Alex didn't early on talk about like the the causing of financial collapse and stuff right right, but at the same time the way he's trying to pretend that a lot of the other elements weren't also major parts of his is rhetoric. Yeah, and even stuff that he was talking about like a couple weeks ago, like like the the idea that he'd have Stuart Rhodes on in them

talk about virus keeps coming back and now it's no big deal. You get over it in a week. You're fine. Yeah, it's it's I have a real difficult time with it because on the one hand you should look at it and be like oh fuck you. Yeah, but the other hand of like I wonder where this is going. There's a little bit of curiosity about like where the thread leads right, but at the same time it's like you shouldn't be allowed to do this. Yeah, you really shouldn't know that he's he's he's causing he has the potential to cause a lot of damage. Yeah no absolutely that really worries me that study that they did showing pretty

well definitively that the more money you have the the richer you are the more psychopathic your behavior. This is more like to me there's something deeper beneath that that money provides you and that's insulation from consequences. Yeah when you don't have consequences for your actions this type of shit happens you can oh this week the stock markets up a thousand points tomorrow it's down a thousand points doesn't matter no consequences this week the corona virus is man made last week it was a it's just nonsense there's no consequences for your actions and so you just keep doing bullshit and that gets people killed

because they have to deal with it. I think that there's a part of that that is the case but then I think that there's also a part that like I think Alex is keenly aware of the fact that like he knows he's been lying for years like all the stuff he talks about is like there's no stakes to it because it's not real yeah he hates his audience yeah so like he doesn't care if it's damaging to them that's fair he doesn't care yeah it's just like constant bullshit that just is to facilitate whatever like growing narratives that he has that helps him sell stuff and helps him push reactionary extreme right wing beliefs so like he

knows on a certain level like every time he yells about school shootings being fake he knows that it's bullshit so whatever comes of it no big deal right who gives a shit right and we're in a situation right now where neither you nor I can predict what's going to happen but the experts the people who are in the fields that are relevant right people you should be listening to right and they all have dire warnings yeah the countries that have gone down the paths that Alex would like to recommend to people going down even if they change the path too late are in bad places that's not something that his narratives

can really do anything about yeah like he can later try and create an explanation like I said like he can rewrite this to be like oh is Mnuchin in the globalists that wanted people to go back to work so that gets sick and you know he can do that yeah but this is not the same as lying about a school shooting or any of the other stuff like this is the same it's just like it's clear that it is to him yeah but it's not yeah I give it I give it a week before Trump holds a prepped conference and they beat Fauci's head to death because a fucking severed pigs had told him it's a good idea it's like that's where they

they are insane it's becoming less and less unlikely so anyway we'll be back we're doing this episode on Friday we have some plans to keep y'all company as best we can through this trying time we'll at least be doing Monday Wednesday Friday episodes for the foreseeable time frame and there might be some little sneaky other things along the way we'll see about that we'll see what happens but until we see again we have a website we do have a website it's knowledge fight dot com yep we're on Twitter we are on Twitter is that knowledge underscore fight net go to bed Jordan we are also on Facebook we are on Facebook if you

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