Knowledge Fight - #415: April 1, 2020

Episode Date: April 3, 2020

Today, Dan and Jordan check in on Alex Jones' April Fool's Day show on Infowars. In this installment, Alex's friend the Health Ranger comes out as a Polio Denier and Alex declares a really hilarious war against QAnon.

I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys knowledge everybody welcome back to knowledge fight I'm Dan I'm sure we're a couple dudes like to sit around technology beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones indeed we are Dan Jordan Jordan what do you got for a bright spot this week well here's one that shows how stupid I am I didn't know that frozen hash brown patties existed and could be sold at the store okay and I've discovered that and they're fantastic they're really nice for a breakfast item you can't go wrong with potatoes in any form I didn't realize how many different shapes of potato they sell in the food section like that I like the way

you put that just shapes of potatoes a lot of presentations and it's pretty wild I thought it was just like we got crinkle fries you got cheese string fries steak fries of course so much more tots tots you got tots curly fries but fucking waffle for the hash brown patty it's just like if you went to McDonald's yeah except a pack of ten of them costs like four bucks perfect yeah it's a perfect breakfast you don't have to go to McDonald's now fuck McDonald's that's my bright spot take that hash browns Mr. McDonald exactly whatever your name may be a croc yeah that's a whole crock of shit is what I'm telling right what about you I will tell you a book book series by Anne McCrackery a dragon song and dragon

singer and then there's a third one but a I love it so much because it's like that kind of magical girl story where she's in a you know quiet remote place and she's got a magical destiny and that kind of thing sure but it's entirely about her wanting to become a musician and going to the school that doesn't allow women musicians and it's amazing and it's beautiful and it shows a true and deep passion for music that I care about very much that sounds lovely yeah it's like a children's read that book and get a hash brown it's good that's our recommendation for the day there you go so Jordan today we are going over a little bit of an episode of Alex Jones's show for Friday we got April Fool's Day episode April 1st 2020

do it don't you do it 2020 damn it so we're gonna go over that it's really interesting there's some weird stuff and then there's weirder stuff okay almost half of this episode is taken up with a source of conversation that is meaningless okay it will not pay off all right and is a ridiculous okay I like it so I'm thrilled to get into that but before we do Jordan we take a moment to say thank you some folks who have signed up and are sporting show love it so first Dan with two ends great name one too many ends thank you so much you're now policy wonk I'm a policy wonk thank you Dan keep that and keep that and next Nicole P. Thank you so much you're now a policy wonk I'm a policy wonk thank you Nicole next Brian thank

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all right we got to go full tilt buggy on this Watson all right let's just get down to business we ain't making that money off that heroin why are you pimp so good my neck is freakishly large I declare info war on you thank you so much Brett and thank you so much old man housephone yes thank you very much the two of you if you're out there listening you're thinking hey I like the show I'd like to support these gents too you can do that by going to our website knowledgefight.com clicking the button says support the show or finding a local charity in your area to help those who are in need please do one or the other they would be lovely so Jordan today like I said April 1st April fools Alex starts off the show talking about a little bit of April

Fool's business okay well ladies and gentlemen it is April Fool's day and we've got the April Fool's virus out there in full effect no it's a real bio weapon it's probably going to kill what Adams original analysis is pretty good we had the flu killed eighty thousand in 2018 we have a total lockdown of society and the stop market plunging which it is right now no so first like what's the what's the April Fool's here it's the April Fool's virus but it's not it's very real is the April Fool's day joke pretending that Mike Adams original estimate was eighty to ninety I guess his original estimate oh boy so Alex's flu numbers are inaccurate there but even so flu comparisons are by definition

stupid so I'm just gonna leave that aside what I want to focus on here is the claim that Mike Adams estimates are being shown to be correct April Fool's this that's fair enough because this is not okay to say based on Mike's appearances on Alex's show it's impossible to say which of Mike's estimates Alex is talking about Mike has changed projections quite a bit over the course of this period very suspiciously in ways that seem to be meant to complement Alex's editorial tone it's really helpful that way on the day after China lockdown Wuhan on January 24th Mike famously get guested on Alex's show and declared that it was over for humanity and there would only be lone survivors on that same show he literally said that most people would not survive in my

assessment the bulk of the human race will not survive this now there can be lone survivors or small groups of survivors and I think that that's the strategy we have to get to so that death toll is pretty high that most most people specific but pretty high on February 8th Mike returned to the show to misuse an estimate put out by professor Neil Ferguson in order to estimate that we would be seeing 7500 deaths a day in China from the virus if the death rate is 15 to 17 percent which I will lay out here in a minute China has admitted it by the way in a press conference they accidentally admitted it they didn't then Neil Ferguson's estimates professor Ferguson his estimates of 50 000 new infections a day translates to 7500 deaths a day

in China over the next few weeks at the point of the writing of this episode China had experienced 3312 deaths from the virus a little more than half of Mike's daily prediction now granted of course you take China's numbers with a grain of salt there's still nowhere near what Mike's talking about then on March 1st Mike and Alex spent a considerable amount of time discussing Rush Limbaugh's comments about the virus having a two percent mortality rate and how half the population if half the population got infected that would translate to approximately three million deaths and and you mentioned Rush so I'll bring this up okay Rush says there's only a two percent mortality rate well if you infect half of America which is pretty typical for a flu two percent

comes out to roughly three point three million dead Americans so Rush essentially just admitted there could be millions of deaths in America which is a hundred times larger than the flu and let's be clear we don't want that to happen it's terrible oh Mike said it's a hundred times larger than the flu yeah oh yeah that's a good flu comparison did did Alex say that his projections were right meaning that there would only be 80 to 90 000 people left on the planet in which case I think that is a according to the initial one yeah yeah yeah so by March 2nd Alex had completely fabricated two lieutenant colonel sources who had told him that the Pentagon was predicting approximately three million deaths exactly what he and Mike had discussed when they were talking

about Rush Limbaugh Alex claimed that the military had been ordered to contact him to let him know this because they needed hardcore patriots to be prepared weirdly Alex has completely dropped this 100% made-up storyline now because it's not useful to him anymore on March 6th Mike returned to the show with a new computer model that showed a possibility of about two million deaths by July which Alex proceeded to use incorrectly now the models are at millions and millions dying there's a new computer model out that shows two plus a dead million people by July but again these are just models other lands at models you know show 15 percent death rates not two percent Alex was so out of line that Mike had to interrupt their interview to tell him to

change the headline about his model on inforce to reflect that the model is showing what would happen in the unlikely and possibly impossible scenario that literally nothing was done to slow down the virus and it was drawn on Microsoft paint so it wasn't a very good computer model yeah yeah there is no narrative you can make out of this that says the Mike Adams was accurate Mike was all over the place and generally airing strongly in the direction of hysteria early on what Alex just did to start his show is textbook gas lighting pretending that Mike Adams has been super accurate and his models they've always shown 80 to 90 thousand it's and that's how I've reported it straight down the middle complete vindication for his process to complete vindication

it's abusive man so good to know when you're right you know and I have to be confirmed so there's a lot of rewriting of things and like creating this new but sort of more solidified narrative and in this case Alex lays it out here and it's essentially you know what you need to know is that early on the globalist said it was no big deal in order to lure Trump you know we've been down this road before but of course of course here's how Alex explains it about March 1st a month ago they flipped and said it's all Trump's fault it's the American virus America's a crap hole it's gonna have the most cases because we're gonna have the most testing so they run the hoax that we're not testing we're not testing more testing the whole world combined hundreds of

times the testing of China China's stop testing two weeks ago on record Alex's narrative is nonsensical about the progression through this and I don't really even care that much about how he's deciding to rewrite history in order to keep Trump the noble hero in the story he can live in that fantasy world of his choosing I'll just stick to the claims that he's making Alex claims that the US is engaging in more testing than the rest of the world combined and a hundred times that of China he further claims that China stopped testing two weeks ago on record that sounds like something China would do during the middle of the largest outbreak in their history yeah yeah the claim that China stopped testing people for coronavirus is something that was making the rounds and some

right-wing blogs which is undoubtedly where Alex got it from it's all based on an article out of the Daily Apple which is a strongly anti-China tabloid from Hong Kong the reporting hasn't been substantiated by any other source and it seems unlikely that you know that this is the case in China is still reporting new cases there's you know substantial questions about China's reporting of numbers and those things will be clearer in the future but at this point I wouldn't I wouldn't stake my credibility on this unfounded report an unconfirmed report which Alex has just decided is on record totally accurate 100 percent sounds true Daily Apple you got it so the US is now done over 1.1 million coronavirus tests and from what I can tell that is the most of any country in the

world however it's not more than all the countries combined italy's done more than 450,000 in South Korea is about 420,000 the issues that the vast majority of these tests that uh in America have been done recently whereas it would have been way more effective to have done them earlier widespread testing is always helpful but the point that it could have had the most impact has passed so saying that we're doing a ton of testing now is great but the complaint is more the testing wasn't done when it was needed it's not their fault it was a hoax but now it's real you just didn't notice that it turned from a hoax to reality I guess that's the way you explain it but it's nonsense yeah the other issue is that 1.1 million tests is good but per capita we're still far behind

countries like italy in an article on npr they they put the per capita testing at the united states at about one in 366 people compared to one in 133 in italy so when you know when you adjust for country size you can see the differences a little bit more clearly and the numbers are kind of artificial to an extent yeah so this stuff that alex is saying is just is just nonsensical ways to try and defend trump it's nonsense yeah anytime he starts using big numbers quoting from places it's always it's always conveniently getting rid of the per capita part of that you know oh chicago has the worst murders in the misery but per capita it's yeah that difference is is always something he struggles with yeah so one of the things that i found particularly interesting

about this this and i thought might have been an april fools joke but it turns out it's not is that alex is very insistent that the senate and like the pentagon they now all are sure that this was a bio weapon release god damn which i'm not sure where he's getting for that from but okay the consensus at the senate intelligence and the pentagon and again people that are part of the pro american camp there is that this is a globalist attack by the deep state through communist china because america was taking over the new world order and americanizing at 1776 worldwide sure a plan that i have put forward a thesis stupidly wait wait wait so that's what you mean by 1776 worldwide you got it is not getting rid of the new world order but americanizing

exactly and it's your version of america right right right right i don't want that no no no it's a global one world government that is created by the oh no that's not good hmm okay let's see it's a good idea to have a one world no i don't think alex can say that right well it's kind of what he's saying yeah so trump and his uh his goons were taken over the one world government they were doing it and that was too bad so there was a globalist bio attack that's why that's basically what the narrative here is that it is absurd yeah and the senate there's a consensus in the in the intelligence committee in the pentagon the fuck out of here that's why it's okay that in hoff and uh feinstein and lefler all sold all their stocks right away because they

found out it was a bio weapon so they had to save their money for the future it's not unethical dan i don't know i don't know if that angle is going to work i don't think so i wouldn't be surprised to hear alex picking it up yeah so the um the globalists because they're doing this bio attack and all this sure they need people to be hurt by it or something and so they don't want you to know that this hydrochloroquine is basically you know as trump put it a game changer right really feel like it's not so you had all of these um these governors like we talked about on the last episode we're putting restrictions and regulations in place about frivolous prescriptions right because there's a concern about you know running into a complete shortage right because the president is

in enlisted everybody in a panic by of a medication that could be otherwise very very helpful yeah so alex has now learned that some of these senators or not senators governors are are requesting hydroxychloroquine and so he's decided that they've flipped okay they have fought like the devil to tell you there is no true is an internet dimensional be just so you know that if you get it you're just basically dead or get ready for a ventilator not telling you that if your immune system is boosted and that if you've got a lot of zinc in your body a lot of d3 and a lot of sunshine and things like that that it's very hard to get it not just a fact and they're so pissed that medical doctors are saying that that a bunch of governors try to block them well they all failed now the

governors like michigan that were telling people that uh hydroxychloroquine was illegal are now begging for it and the FDA says yeah they have massive success 90 plus percent as i said brought off their own reports i was reading major news out of europe mainline news uh that now they've just capitulated the democrats are failing in blocking the medicine of the people but it shows they are psychotic filth of the highest order so alex isn't lying that mission a michigan governor gretchen widmer did assist uh or did request hydroxychloroquine but he's lying about why she did it at the request of the michigan senate majority leader mike shirky who explained his actions to the detroit news thusly quote we needed something to prevent uh prevent chloroquine from

becoming the next toilet paper prescribing hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine without further proof of efficacy for treating covet 19 or with the intent to stockpile the drug may create a shortage for patients with lupus rheumatoid arthritis or other ailments for which chloroquine and hydrochloroquine are proven treatments again these are drugs that have not been proven scientifically or medically to treat covet 19 this is exactly the situation we were discussing on a recent episode people like alex and trump are pretending they found a miracle cure and because people look up to them they're making a run on this medication which is leading to scarcity to continue to serve the patients who have these conditions that this is actually used

for people like the leadership in michigan have had to try to get more of it which gives the appearance that they're on board with it being a coronavirus cure when in reality they're just trying to mitigate the danger caused by trups reckless behavior it makes me so mad i'm just so tired of that we are forcing people to act like this because we've entrapped them in this cult like behavior they're doing all this stuff that's causing a shortage that the rest of us have to deal with when the rest of us deal with their bullshit they cite it as proof that they've succeeded yeah it's insane yep these people are insane yeah yeah i don't have a rebuttal there's no rebuttal it's just so fucking infuriating now the thing that makes it a little more

interestingly is that simultaneously over the weekend the fda issued an emergency youth use authorization for hydroxychloroquine to be used for coronavirus patients a couple of very important things to point out about this are that in their declaration the fda makes it clear that the main reason for this emergency authorization is one there's no available alternative treatment and two the sense that the possible benefits outweigh the expected risks which you know are you know death they're trying to get rid of hope dan that's what they're trying to do with this chloroquine they're getting rid of hope yeah that's it so the fda is very clear that this is not an approved drug and that the science does not reach the non emergency

standard for approval but we're in an emergency situations they're like well let's try it it probably won't kill as many people as it might help question mark that's unbelievable this could end up being really bad news but it also might not be it's really hard to say but it's important to remember that there's a big difference between this declaration and the rest of the shit we've been seeing a health official saying you know like this isn't proven but we're in an emergency and it might do more to help than hurt so doctors should use their discretion giving it to patients that do test positive that's super different than alex and trump promoting it as a cure and 99 percent effective in the studies they're suppressing it yeah it's just the fda going trump

won't fucking shut up so fine fine we'll do this yeah well but yeah i don't think it's entirely that if you read the declaration there is like if you do if you look at the science under appropriate care the odds of you dying are probably low from the from the hydroxychloric sure if used appropriately with the assistance of a doctor there it's not as unsafe as just everyone taking it right well people doing it on their own of course so trying to approve it in that context makes more sense than running the risk of people trying to self medicate so i think that there right there's a harm reduction factor there now what to to the point that you're making it still is all all roads lead back to trump is throwing a fit like a whiny hyper inflated

expectations that are being created by trump and his allies yeah that is still the root of where all of the impetus to try and self medicate with it are coming from but it's like it's like we're all sharing a car with fucking toddlers and every now and again the toddlers get to drive and we just have to deal with it like and it's just i don't know where this fucking car is going to go there's a toddler driving it good luck well if you're a toddler and you hate the united nations you might say things like alex says on this next clip about the 1992 agenda 21 conference oh here we go and i'll say i need citations on pretty much all of this microsoftic and karta i mean the un said back in 1992 at the big Rio de Janeiro earth summon for agenda 21 now they've gotten that

they're now in 2030 they said we're going to bring in total world government and we're going to bring back human sacrifice like the pagans had to reduce population for sure to tear up the families we're not going to have single parent or double parent homes good idea family dwelling facilities we're going to ban fireplaces we're going to ban individual farming we're going to have giant factory farms total control that's what i want out humans who needs it that's now all public but that's on the un website i could find that on the website is it on the un website i couldn't find it but i will say we want to create a post human society is on the un website i will say that where i checked out was the human sacrifice part yeah that was about where i was like i don't

even care anymore they didn't say that yeah so alex gets to playing a clip of trump talking because trump's tone did take a pretty big change over the last like couple days where he's like there's going to be a lot of deaths right you know the hey if we get a hundred thousand deaths that'll be a victory that kind of tone yeah it's changed a bit yeah let me recontextualize from this is an entire hoax to don't you realize that by me not doing anything up until now and then doing something means that i have saved probably millions of lives and i'm the hero for this outbreak that i definitely did not call a hoax a month ago so in terms of alex talking about that in leading leading into the clip he you know he he kind of ends up admitting that

mike adams predictions weren't eighty ninety thousand to begin with he this is this is ridiculous here let's hear from the president prepare for hard days ahead as many as two hundred and fifty thousand dead by the middle of july mike adams projected two hundred fifty thousand dead by the middle of july about five weeks ago here on air now he's downgraded that because trump went along with some of the lockdown and she's saying ninety thousand he'll be joining a spot of the hour but here's the president so no he didn't he said two point something million by july in his model that alex was misusing the model was if nobody does anything if nobody does anything to something million people will be dead by right right so no but even even so

the this is this is nonsense alex can't keep his story straight this is this is disgusting it is this is disgusting yeah so alex is apparently a big dow jones guy now well you gotta be he's a big market guy he doesn't sell gold anymore he's got to buy stocks in raytheon or whatever it is he does apparently the market is like really important now and he's he wants to check in finds out markets down oh no uh oh and the stock market's almost down 800 points right now a lot of people go the stock market summer of rage it's tied to the entire economy and when it starts tanking they're going to demand bigger bailouts and then that creates more inflation down the road but the depressionary things happening so fast right now that all the stimulus may not even be able to stop it and that's

why jim acosta praised trump last night when he said okay we got to stay close two more weeks they went good good because then it'll set the precedent that when he opens it in a month it's not total depression it's all his fault they're setting the trap but trump knows the trap it was a trap though if he didn't respond they blame every death on so he's riding the tiger we're all riding the tiger together and i'm in simpatico with the president i understand what he's doing no you don't this is this is just a while these the the gymnastics that's required in order to make this make even something close to sense i i just there's i mean there's no point again in pointing out hypocrisy there's just no point it's over with right but the fact that people on the

right are saying like this two trillion dollar stimulus might not be enough makes me want to throw rocks at their homes because we know when we had the fucking last one they're like oh whoa whoa we can't do one point five trillion dollar stimulus we don't have the money they will never find it this is a bailout we need to it's definitely because of the bailout it's not because he's black it's because of the bailout that's why we're so mad it's the bailout now they're like well i mean of course we need to have another stimulus package obviously two point trillion isn't going to be enough yeah and particularly with alex yeah his his hatred of obama specifically surrounding the bailout was so central to yeah a lot of his coverage that the whole tea party

glenbeck they should be bankrupt immediately and their money should go towards the stimulus like i i realize that we can't do anything criminal sees the blaze should be sees all of their assets should be sees this is kind of a crime use civil asset for it for sure i don't care take it so alex is really in a strange place at the beginning in the first hour of this show he's talking a bit about you know still the down playing but also a trump saying like a hundred thousand deaths i mean that's no big deal that's like the flu a couple years ago yeah there's still that sort of thing but he's also getting pretty deep into conspiracy shit and like but but it's a lot of stuff that we've gone over in the past like a lot of it is stuff that you'd

find in our end game coverage yeah like he's just recycling a lot of weird like old sort of political conspiracy and he gets into talking about like the cia man and how they like really screwed over shankai shek uh in the national i mean okay and is that what you want to fight on yeah but sure it takes a really interesting road because he's trying to relate that to the present day with china uh being the tools of the globalists does it work and the globalist shadow organization this is all came out in the history books of the cia no one been around two years of the time tracked down and murdered hundreds of army officers fighting with shankai shek in china and the cia sabotage the hundreds of thousands of rifles and weapons by removing the firing

pins and by removing the explosives out of the hand grenades after the ships launched from um san diego and long beach to china that's just a little snippets of history and you know i was always read this from the john birch society and saw in congressional hearings when i was a kid by people talking about it and then i just claim i do not show your kid like 22 years ago i was watching history channel and had the old former section chief of the cia bragging yeah well a lot of us thought mal was going to really help china and so working with the rockefeller foundation this guy looked like a mummy on there he goes and we've helped him kick shankai shek out and

we thought congress you know didn't understand how great mal was going to be for china and he was great and so we kicked shankai shek out and i'm sitting there on history channel watching them talk about this so mal said tongue could kill 80 something million people himself so alex goes down a road on this episode of rewriting the history of the chinese civil war and considering that's such a huge part of his world view i really need him to do better than this i can find no citations at the globalist sabotaged weapons being sent to shankai shek nor any evidence that the cia was hunting down pro shek soldiers that's how you know they did it because there's no evidence there the cia i can find plenty of

evidence that the us assessed that shankai shek was doomed to lose that war because he was carrying it out very terribly and not listening to strategic advice and they determined that a full on us involvement would lead to a gigantic war likely involving a bunch of other countries and it just couldn't be justified as that's not hard conclusion to come to i was going through the cia's foya archive of documents about mal and shankai shek and none of the stuff alex is saying squares any of the documents i can find however i did find an august fourth 1958 letter that alan dullis sent shankai shek's wife thanking her for sending him a box of tea so it seems like they were on friendly relations in 1958 oh well that's nice just weird if alan dullis was running

the cia that was trying to kill people working with him and put mal into power but whatever hey the job's the job man it's not personal there's there's no kayfabe it's civil wars you can share some tea with somebody but when it comes down to it the president says you gotta all right i even found a may 24th 1962 memo that details quote a result of a check with the old china hands in the agency and the department of state they found that quote the u.s. has always held that the g r c the government of the nationalists represents the legitimate government of china however it also does say that in 1949 to 1950 quote we did inform shankai shek that the u.s. did not intend to become further involved in the chinese civil war alex is making claims that i need to see more

proof of and the best he has is claiming it's in the books or it's been declassified and that's not good enough i've heard him say a hundred times that kind of thing and he's just making those things up i do believe that he read this stuff in john birch society i agree i 100 percent believe but that doesn't mean anything no now what gives me no faith in this whole thing is his foggy memory of some cia section chief on an unnamed show on either the discovery channel or history channel that alex saw 22 years ago hey you remember something whenever it's true dan that's how it works i have no idea if this alleged documentary exists if it says what alex thinks it does or anything this is as good as providing no evidence quite frankly all the information i can find about

the cia in the period around this time has to do with them doing covert actions to try and destabilize maus government so i really need alex to cite some sources here a couple of things that are concerning about his memory is that there's no such thing as a cia section chief that's not a real title is that just an fb i think no the title whatever the title is station chief you don't hope you'd know that there is only one cia station chief in china at that time so if alex has seen evidence of this person saying they were trying to help mao it should be really fucking easy for him to know that person's name have information about their career of some corroborating evidence anything but he doesn't all alex has is a probably completely false memory

about something he claims he saw on the discovery channel or history channel two decades ago this is literally indistinguishable from not trying he might as well just say that he saw this like history in a dream and that would be hold as much weight as this argument that he's making here i've got a sci fi movie for you buddy okay ghost in the shell the section nine agency there are sections in the japanese law enforcement section nine chief chief aramaki done solved it that's where he got the idea from great loves ghost in the shell it's a great it's a great movie it's great series i'm sure it's good stuff doesn't help with our i'm gonna check that i'm gonna check that off on our movies okay we've almost got bingo we've almost got bingo i'm telling you from what i can tell

here's what i think is going on with this kind of narrative okay shankai shek was going to lose that war against mao and the us knew that there were only two options in front of them one was letting the war play out and probably allowing a communist government to take power in china the other was becoming directly involved in the conflict risking a wider war and in a best case scenario installing shankai shek and the nationalists into power by virtue of our military support alex wants the us of the past to do the latter but he's also invested in a whole a whole lot of his career in being the anti intervention guy one of the only positions he's ever held that made people think he's not a total lunatic is a strong aversion to the iraq war and all these

wars of regime change i suspect that he knows that it would be impossible for him to argue against regime change wars then claim that the us should have gotten directly involved in a country's civil war in order to pick a winner in order to avoid that cognitive dissonance he and all his extreme right-wing anti-communist types have created an entirely new story of what happened in that war so it doesn't look like they wish that they what you know what would have happened is exactly what they pretend to be against in the present yeah instead of them retroactively calling for a war of regime change they're really just against the secret regime change that actually was going on where the globalists are supporting now haha that seems like what it's going on but honestly i have

no idea this could all just be stuff that alex's dad told him when he was a kid i don't really know it's purely that right wing playbook of like what i want to have i have no historical consistency whatsoever so i am 100 against vaccines today and then you're like well what about the polio vaccine we're like well back then polio vaccines were great they solved everything i have to stop you i'm because later in this episode he does not say he's against the polio vaccine he might not a certain health ranger all right well then i guess i have to give it up to him like the Somali pirates for some sort of consistency that's insane yeah even your parody example i'm trying to be insane yeah it's unfortunately invalidated by something that comes up later in

this exact episode nothing is beyond parroted nope so alex said that he you know he saw this stuff in the john birch society sure and i do believe that and he talks a little bit more about that here what is the john birch society i'm not even part of it but everything i ever saw them right now turned out to be accurate it wasn't john birch was an army officer the chai comms captured him our government knew they tortured him to death he didn't give up any of the secrets so to be fair you said that alex's dad was in the john birch society we don't know that 100 percent just that alex has said that there were birchers around right and it seems very likely that his dad was a bircher it seems it seems incredibly likely but we don't have confirmation

of that it could have just been that he had like uncles or his grandfather or friends of his dad's who were basically uncles yeah that sort of thing yeah he had a lot of he had a lot of influence and his dad seems to have a lot of similar ideas as the john birch society i'm just saying that if you give your son john bircher reading material yeah regardless of whether or not you earn a vowed john bircher yeah it's oh you're a bircher it's dangerous to allow your kid to read something like that oh yeah when you're going without without the proper maturity it's so funny to hear alex's clip there though when he's talking about these birchers always being right always right i mean considering the fact that just a few years ago alex was

trying to pretend that he wasn't into the john birch society he knew that saying that he was into their shit would prove that he was completely insane right wing eighty communist lunatic which would have hurt the crossover appeal that he was trying to cultivate in all those years and he was pretending he was above the left right paradigm yeah don't got to worry about that now all that time he was lying he was a bircher the whole time trying to push extreme right wing shit under the banner of pretending to be above this i'm a libertarian on the right left it's just a lie man it's about freedom to you in that sense a lot of these people like dav rubin really owe their careers to alex jones he paved the way of that bullshit that fucking lie trojan horse and

right wing stuff to be above it all yeah fuck off however it's hilarious to hear alex say that everything that john birch society has put out is true i've read a lot of the jbs materials and suffice it to say that almost none of it is true and guess what i don't even have to get into any of their publications to demonstrate that the john birch society was named they named themselves after john birch who they claimed was the first u.s casualty of the cold war alex is saying that he was tortured and he didn't give up his secrets and that part definitely isn't true he was shot by a pl a army contingent right on august 25th 1945 after refusing to disarm he wasn't captured he wasn't tortured and giving up his secrets alex just made that up i was going to say the funniest

part about that is him saying john bircher shit is true and it's like you didn't even get the truth of your own fucking name right yeah nothing is true so john birch was definitely working in intelligence in china in 1945 which doesn't that kind of mess up alex's narrative about u.s intelligence working to install mao nope stop doesn't that tend to get out of the guy that the guy that john birch society was named after was plotting to betray shank i shake hold on one second i encourage you not to think about it because alex certainly has not you just hurt my brain dan so lieutenant colonel james do little served with birch in china and i should tell you he's an actual lieutenant colonel unlike the ones alex makes up in his 2009 memoir entitled i could

never be so lucky again he had this to say about john birch who he knew personally quote he had no way of knowing that the john birch society a highly vocal post war anti-communist organization would be named after him because its founders believed him to be the first casualty of world world war three i feel sure he would not have approved john birch is a thing to the john birch society not a person he's taken on as their patron saint while he had no say in the matter and according to someone who knew him he probably would not be into it and then what alex is doing is even worse he's created a fictional fictional story about torture to apply to birch to make the narrative better these people are ghouls they are awful yeah so the lie is baked in to the john birch society from

the beginning yeah it's it's you don't even need to get into any of their their publications their blue book or any of that shit so no absolutely i'm starting a group called the mary poppins society because mary poppins was the first woman to murder six thousand people in world war two did i right yeah i knew her and i don't think she i'm pretty sure she would no no no what do you think that umbrella is for murder fair enough she was the basis for the penguin okay so the cia put now into power and also john birch was a hero yes so alex is talking a bit about the cia and he seems to think that the problem in the world and all of the the troubles with the trump administration they all are basically about trump trying to get his people into the leadership

boy and that's what's creating chaos wolf and this is stupid the cia is just the biggest intelligence agency it got all the funding to get rid of naval intelligence and army intelligence and all the rest of it and get all the funding to then control and corral that and get its people in but as soon as the military realizes that it's checkmate and now trump's bringing his people in the cia and that's why there's a giant civil war because we're that close to taking the government back we're on the march the empire on the run but the fight is now intensifying so get ready you can see here again that alex doesn't not like the deep state he just wants it to be his deep i want a better deep state yeah i've seen this time and time again when he ends up talking

too loosely he ends up revealing that the new world order is probably good as long as trump's running it or how he wants a one world government like we should buy greenland and all that shit just as long as like the one world government that's in place is led by the us and trump is in charge i hate co intel pro as long as they're targeting right wing activists as well if they're killing martin losie not a problem love going to pro his pretend principles mean nothing yelling about the institutional rot of intelligence agencies being in control of the government means nothing because he wants the intelligence agencies to control the government but only if his weirdos run the intelligence agency this is exactly why political projects of the sort that alex and

his ilk engage in will never lead to real change they scream about structural change but all they want is the kind that puts them in charge of the structures yes they want a superficial change only absolutely that way they can destroy the structures and live i assume they become dukes uh huh well talk call larry okay also since trumps been in office there have been three heads of the cia appointed merrow park was the acting head for three days right at the beginning of the term and then and gene haspel has been in since may 2018 previous to haspel who trump appointed trump appointed mike pompeo is the head of c uh cia for a good fifteen months before making him with the secretary of state well he had so much good practice as the head of cia he was clearly ready

for the promotion but the big but the point is that trump has clearly been able to put people in no it's that's why they that's what they want you to think dan okay but what about the director of national intelligence he's been killed for thirty years well there was mike dampsey who was the acting head after trump got rid of clapper sure and then trump appointed dan coats who was in the position for about two and a half years and then we got two acting heads there was joseph maguire who trump appointed when dan coats left he was appointed because trump didn't want the deputy director to take over probably because he didn't trust her and then about five months later trump fired maguire because one of his subordinates briefed the house intel committee about russia's

preference for trump to win in 2020 which angered trump because trump is a baby pretty sure trump said you had me at goodbye then trump replaced him with the former ambassador to germany richard granel in his time as ambassador he was described by abc news as quote viewed as one of president donald trump's closest envoys in europe which explains why he was involved in the negotiations to arrest julian assange which alex should not be thrilled with but whatever granel was literally the person who made a verbal pledge that if assange was handed over he wouldn't get the death penalty and this is one of close trump's closest allies who we appointed director of national intelligence yeah but at what cost at what kind that's all i got trump has been nominating and

appointing people to leadership positions in the intelligence community as any president would he happens to be appointing bad people but that tends to create chaos on the picture that alex wants to paint here is complete bullshit that tries to rewrite why the chaos is happening yeah it's nonsense i'm not gonna argue they're all bad people i don't i get there's no intelligence head that isn't a bad person like you can like everybody obama pointed was a bad person like it's just how it is that's a fair conversation yeah but also there are grades of bad i i 100 percent agree i'm just not going to argue about that sure fuck this yeah further someone like alex should recognize like i got really drunk at my cpec speech and tried to lead the people

in a pitchfork rally right julien assange no problems and the guy who literally negotiated the arrest of julien assange trump rewarded with making the dini right now you're okay now you're saying one thing right but let me counter with this no and a different thing my point is that alex doesn't know anything yeah also the office of naval intelligence still exists and there have been two directors appointed in the time since trump has been in office these aren't actually positions that the president appoints but they are nominated by the defense secretary who is appointed by the president right kind of trickles down yeah whatever yeah also army intelligence still exists no it's a much wider entity though but generally speaking the u.s army deputy chief

of staff g2 is considered the head of army intelligence hey dan army intelligence that's a oxymoron you get it ah yeah it's a fucking bad joe boop boop boop scott berrier is currently in that position and he's been there since uh january 2018 within the time trump has been in office these things like naval intelligence and army intelligence still exists and if trump has had no problem appointing people into positions like if you wanted to what are we doing yeah this is all just made up bullshit alex is spouting because trump is doing a terrible job and he needs a justification for it it can't just be that trump is profoundly stupid and a malicious person who's not equipped to be in office it has to be that everyone else is working against him and he is

in fact the only good person again to mirror things i said in wednesday's bill cooper episode this is childish yeah this is very fucking childish it's it's just it's amazing it really is amazing how how fucked up the human brain can be how many twists it can take to get to where it wants to go because if you are if you're even an uninformed person you can't look at what trump has done and go that's a good human being it's just not possible and i'm not even talking as president i'm talking as human yeah it's just a human being if you know trump's story you're like oh well that's a shit person even if you retired after the like apprentice who be like yeah that guy sucks that guy's a piece of shit if all his phrase is your fire he sucked in home alone to what else do you what he

wasn't even richy rich i hate him he didn't have really a chance in home alone to he sucked at wrestle mania you know what that's that's his hitler failed as a painler has hitler failed as a painter if trump had the chance to really get a meaty role in home alone to we wouldn't be can i tell you what he really sucked at taking a stunner stone cold gave him a stunner and he took it very poor it was bad yeah he's no rock i'll tell you that i'm really the rock great great at taking a stunner i really don't like you reminding me that the president is in the world wrestling hall of fame yeah really don't like you reminding me of that yeah where is it there the when vince mcman and his family went to the white house so but there was a meme that was like stone cold has

stunned 60 of the people in this photo god that's so fucked up he's given a stutter to vince mcman yeah linda mcman yep stephanie just not the children there in the picture i was like oh god that's a grim fucking reality grim fucking reality this is a this is a simulation though we should stop worrying so much yeah so anyway alex believes that the issue is that what trump needs to do is he needs to come out and very strongly endorse that everybody take hydroxy chloroquine and is it the rumia sin a z pack and everything will be cool counter that's a bad idea well people are learning just as mike adam said when he was on a few days ago he said the good news is if trump just promotes z pack and hydroxy chloroquine and zinc like the medical doctors are saying all

over the world you're not europe mexico everywhere incredible recovery rate so alex is saying there are these studies at europe china and mexico claiming super high recovery rates from hydroxy chloroquine being used to treat coronavirus and he needs to be more careful the study from europe he's talking about was that french study and this study should absolutely not be seen as conclusive for anything for one it only included 42 patients in the trials and six of them did not complete the study with one dying in the middle of treatment of the 42 patients 26 were given hydroxy chloroquine six were given hydroxy chloroquine and a zithromia sin and 10 were the control group all six of the patients who could not complete the trial were in the group that were

given hydroxy chloroquine but only one was thought to have been unable to complete it because of a drug interaction yeah so maybe some of that is just circumstantial but because the sample so small it and the controls aren't good yeah you don't know it doesn't mean anything yeah the six patients who were given the combined drugs were all said to have recovered in five days but the study the study is super dicey for one the small number of participants is not great and the fact that they don't address that six patients those six patients who couldn't complete the trial is unnerving they just don't address it well they don't give specifics into like what was going on with it okay well it's not it's not really factored in well to the explanation of well this it should screw up their

numbers right right yeah the fact that they only provided data on the patients for seven days when the trial was supposed to have been 14 is also a huge problem for people who have looked into it that's a good sign there were a lot of problems at this study and it became even more troubling when the peer review status was examined it was accepted by the journal the register the day after the study was supposed to have ended which is very suspicious as it turns out one of the co-authors of the study is the editor in chief of that there we go so it appears that what happened is was rushed through the process and published as peer reviewed possibly prematurely this study may be interesting to repeat with more rigorous standards and a larger randomized set of participants but from everything

i can tell you should not take this specific finding too seriously there are way too many unanswered questions about the study for it to be like okay that's so infuriating why would you do that now why would you release a study with only 40 some odd patients i think for the sake of like actual people in the medical field of course it is worthwhile data i get that yeah i get and and i don't know enough about the person who did this study right to say that they were using it like wrongly maybe their intention was just to give this information as possibly hastily gathered together as it was sure two people who could then recreate the experiment possibly it does serve that function and that's i mean this is one of the downsides of the interconnectedness

of the internet for sure and the free quick flow of information right right it's a lot of stuff that's not meant for your eyes and can only be a problem for you to see yeah but other people need to see it other doctors other scientists could make use of it it's just that the editor in chief also helped write the study it ended a week early and the day it might not have ended a data that's provided on right the right seven days not 14 days and then it was rushed through it just seems like that's too glaring a thing to allow to happen with that like i don't need the context or the results of the study i just need to know that i'm like i can't trust you well i just can't yeah you know well that the way that i think is the most appropriate to look at it is

there's a lot of questions it's not necessarily evidence of malfeasance from the things that i've been able to tell for sure but there are questions that need to be addressed before you know you want to really look at this absolutely i'm not i'm not to take it as like gospel is really troubling right for sure and i'm not arguing like again maybe the results of the study are right on and maybe everything was followed to a tea possible there's too many different things around there that say i can't trust this and so it's not that i'm going to dismiss the findings out of hand but it's like i'm not even going to pretend those matter until i have something else well they're interesting and you should like it they are data points that are worthwhile but i think

when we get to the end of this little chunk that i have to present for you yeah you'll understand a little bit why some of this information might come out in the way that it does okay so as for the study from china it's a worse example this was a study that was published by the journal of beijing university in china and the conclusion it reached was that hydroxychloroquine was as effective as no treatment it too was a really small study of only 30 patients 15 were given the drug and after a week 13 tested negative of the 15 who weren't given the drug 14 tested negative after a week the conclusion in the paper was deemed not statistically significant and further studies were required to determine if there was any real benefit there yet another not yet peer

reviewed study out of china of 62 patients did find a decreased time of recovery in patients treated with hydroxychloroquine but this is unreviewed and it should not be taken as definitive as yet and it's only 62 patients yeah so i can find no study out of mexico as alex is claiming that hydroxychloroquine can cure coronavirus however if you just google those words you'll find a posting on clinicaltrials.gov which is recruiting patients for a double blind study being put on by the national institute of respiratory diseases in mexico according to the posting the study is supposed to begin on march 23rd 2020 but would not complete until march 21st i'm sorry march 22nd 2021 the results of these trials will likely be far more illuminating than

the small scale studies we have access to at this point but the results are a ways off in the future there's no way alex could know the results of this study but if he was just reading headlines he might see something about a study about hydroxychloroquine in mexico and just make up the rest just toss it in there yeah now but this mexico study is actually kind of like demonstrative of what i was saying is like to do a real trial like this would take that long yeah so the data would never really be yeah you never have the preliminary data that people are right maybe needing in order to like form other trials to do if you did it like this rigorous standards with a large group of participants and and randomization double blind all the all the standards the only study coming

out of mexico right now is how long it takes for amlo to get corona virus the way he's going that guy is insane that's an interesting study are you conducting that well we're all just we're all conducting it like he's just not he's not doing anything like amlo is still a traveling around flying commercially as much as possible denying that the situation is happening shaking hands doing the whole thing like it's amazing dr boris about the hand shaking is insane yeah so that these three countries or i guess europe's not a country but the three places that he said their studies from you know these are the specifics things that he's talking about yeah one is that french study that's dubious but possible there needs to be more work done on that before you can draw any kind of

conclusions right the chinese study the first one said it's as good as nothing and then the other one that more recently came out from china is not peer reviewed right and is unclear and the mexico one hasn't even happened well it's in the middle of it apparently at this point you have no results from that alex doesn't have anything to back any of this up and he's just a dick anyway but trump needs to say everyone take this oh well of course of course absolutely so alex has mike adams on because his projections have always been accurate okay okay so a month ago they were talking about 80 000 your old original projection was at 80 000 original protection with everyone for that then they went to 100 to 200 000 now they're in a 250 might give us the latest and why they're starting

to up the numbers after lowering them before well they're they're following the the mathematics of where this goes this is deeply gas lighting this is like mike should have been like you know what no i was off early i said a little bit i said most of the human race would not survive just a little bit just be just walk it back a little bit you don't have to walk it back a ton just be like look i was a little bit out of line at first i was panicking like everybody else yeah and so i went back and i checked the numbers and i think it's more in line with what the cd say you say yeah it's it's okay to say that it's not hard i'm i'm more than willing to admit that i didn't take the the situation nearly as seriously in like let's say january as i am now and that's because i had blind

faith in the system for sure i had to you should i had no matter how often we are disabused of that notion somehow they're still like someday there will be adults in the room yeah and there just are not ahead of i had a misguided belief that like yes this this could be pretty bad but i have faith in the public health officials and everyone will make the right decisions and nope apparently not so um that's fine you could admit that some of your assumptions were turned out to not be accurate and that's okay it's not just fine it's not just okay it's a good thing that leads to growth yeah perhaps yeah so mike's projection is now 45 to 90 thousand okay but he has a solution sure and my projections are currently between 45 and 90 thousand deaths by the end of july

the white house is currently estimating 100 000 to 240 000 but look alex the solution is right in front of us the solution i am convinced now is more masks more zinc for everybody vitamin d3 and more testing i believe with those four elements in place i mean nationwide emergency production of zinc and give it out for free to everybody flood the country with zinc with proper recommendations for proper dosing i think we could get america back to work by the end of april this guy's gonna fuck around and give people heavy metal poisoning you know what here's my problem i would prefer it if he's stuck with it's the end of humanity because now that he's going on this tip i'm more afraid that it's the end of humanity like when he's like i think it'll

be between 45 and 90 thousand if we get all these testing and all these masks the thing that i said two weeks ago we don't need to do and that we're all going to die but now we're going to be fine and all that shit now i'm worried that's an interesting reaction that you're having to the health ranger i also want to put him in the stocks and have people throw tomatoes at him and forever that's not an interesting reaction that's very normal that seems right so you got to get all the zinc now what's interesting to me about this is that mike is presenting this as a very just like this is my research scholarly opinion as if alex hadn't been doing recently a ad pitch constantly about zinc in the real red pill one of the product i didn't even know that zinc was

important dan how did they how did they come to that conclusion independently of each other dan it's just so constantly like just zinc zinc zinc is the answer we do the right pills but they're not talking about it being in alex's products and i think that's intentional oh do you think so yeah are they sick of getting letters from attorneys general i think so but anyway the real issue is that doctors you know those doctors that are doctors who have degrees that totally real doctors who are also lieutenant colonels in the military no no no doctor doctors doctor yeah like ones you might meet at a hospital oh sure sure sure sure problem with their education jordan they don't know about zinc that's the problem is they don't teach as you know medical

doctors with with with degrees more than a few weeks on nutrition i've talked a lot of nutrition as i'm getting different numbers but i've talked to a few medical doctors and they tell me they're looking into it too but a lot of doctors saying 250 milligrams if you already have it daily which over time could be toxic for the kidneys that's what they say yeah a lot of other people say well maybe take 50 to 100 milligrams a day what are you doing 25 i'm just 25 milligrams a day and and eating healthy foods and i think that's all you need really i mean maybe people who are deficient could take more but most people are getting almost zero and so there's a chronic zinc deficiency in the population and i think really this covid 19 disease is really a chronic zinc deficiency

disease that is a wow virus which otherwise would not be very harmful to people big swing wow that is a big swing yeah so it's a zinc deficiency that everyone seems to have like honestly just like look zinc isn't in everything but there's a lot of fucking foods that have zinc in it this this like i can't stress this enough what what's interesting there is like mike is saying like what i do is i take this that's a testimonial yes that's fine legally technically but this really feels like they're trying to sell zinc it really feels like hold on it might be because they are it really it's insane folks it's called essential you don't have zinc you die in about four or five months okay i've looked the numbers up same thing with vitamin c it's called

scurvy okay and scurvy's made a comeback because some people don't get any real vitamin c mike Adams is our gas natural news dot com he'll be covering all this in detail as far as scurvy goes don't call it a comeback scurvy does scurvy is not a comeback disease it's just a people who stop eating vitamin c disease you can find headlines like one that i found from 2018 quote scurvy is back but then you look and you read the article and it's about two patients you know they're in the saddle again there are people with malnutrition that may come down with scurvy but the numbers aren't nearly what alex wants you to think with like scurvy's making a comeback yeah and the solution is always eat an orange zinc deficiency can definitely be bad for people but

also most people get enough zinc as long as their diets include red meat and poultry if you're a vegetarian peas almonds and baked beans will give you plenty of zinc or you could take a multi vitamin many of which contain zinc the more these dudes talk the more i think that this is basically an unspoken sales pitch for the real red pill alex's supplement with zinc i think that alex knows that if he makes it too overt he's going to get another letter so he's just hyper promoting zinc as the answer to the coronavirus and trusting that his listeners will put two and two together i did the sales pitch for the fact that real red pill has zinc in it in the past yeah that was a different episode oh completely for the attorney general to make an argument that i'm doing this

they need to use multiple episodes and i can argue that of course haha it feels like that's the logic that's going on it only happened a few times and now i've changed up my primary sales method to strongly winking at the crowd yeah yeah and they do also keep using testimonial things like alex keeps saying like i take this as opposed to saying like it's good for yeah yeah it's very it's very it seems very intentional these guys are so fucking shitty and honestly i wouldn't even be that suspicious about it except for this thing that mike says i don't even have any zinc to sell i'm not selling zinc i don't know if info wars has zinc in in their store for fucks sake minor ingredient in a a multi vitamin mineral formula possibly i don't even know really i'm just telling you zinc is i

believe zinc is the the key to getting america back to work which can save the economy save the upcoming election so we can have elections so we can have a free society we need to end the lockdowns even from a liberty point of view but we need to embrace nutrition which means we need knowledge and we we have to end the big pharma stranglehold over our systems big pharma runs the media big pharma runs washington dc sure fine makers big pharma runs the medical schools and the doctors and the universities and they want this to be as bad as possible so that they can position the drug companies and the vaccine companies as the saviors in the end they want this to get as bad as possible have as much suffering and death as possible and that's why they're publicly fighting

to even block medical doctors from old cheap drugs that work great like hydroxychloroquine but the good news is they failed to suppress that treatment well that's right okay all right health ranger i don't even i don't even sell a product with zinc in it i've never even seen the matrix so i wouldn't know that if there was a product with zinc in it it would be referencing the matrix and i definitely don't know if you alex jones the info wars host actually sell a product that is based on this with also the red pill and i'm not i did i even say red pill i didn't say red pill you said red pill i wish that i listened to the episodes like where my hosts i guarantee i could have found some audio of him selling the real red one hundred percent talking

about they're being one hundred percent zero down in my mind i believe that he doesn't sell a zinc product but i don't believe that he's oblivious of the fact that alex has been really trying to push the real red pill because of it having zinc in it yeah it seems just kind of ludicrous pathetic so they're really you know the angle is very strongly in the pushing hydroxychloroquine which is an unproven treatment right now what makes this really difficult as a pill to swallow pun intended is that alex is also trying to pair this with narratives about when they make a vaccine it will it'll hurt you it'll be an unproven vex right it's it's almost like two narratives that should not exist within the same brain you guys give me that article i saw an article a month ago

by a major virologist headline you'll be careful the vaccine will probably kill more people than the actual and we had that with a swine flu shot in the 70s that's that's right so you have the warnings about un like medical applications for things that aren't thoroughly tested and aren't ready to go meanwhile strong promotion of fda only emergency approved uh medication when like alex shouldn't be promoting this if it's a prescription course of course or he should be saying concert like talk to your doctor like it's it's it's it's confusing to ideologically i want testing available for everyone i want the eventual vaccine available for available for everyone i want treatment available for everyone but when i listen to alex jones sometimes i'm like what if the rest

of us just covered our eyes for a little bit and then in a few months they're gone like it's that kind of fury that i have at this liar i i i want to save his life and he is actively trying to kill himself and his listeners dad it's infuriating it isn't infuriating it's a it's a trial of empathy and then really is and pointless understanding it really is yes and it gets worse because in this next clip is where mike gets into polio truth or is okay how it's there's not a thing it's pretty bad in fact the way to beat the vaccine industry alex is to get the word out about zinc and get america healthy and back to work again before the vaccine even comes into existence so they can't fudge the numbers and claim the vaccine caused the the virus to go away like they

did with polio it was all a lie you know the vaccine didn't do anything the vaccine actually introduced more polio to the world and in fact the number one cause of polio today is the polio vaccine they're gonna do the same thing with corona virus if we give them a chance so we've got to get the word out about zinc vitamin d3 hydroxychloroquine and masks masks are the key from from now on anybody writing on public transportation for the next few years needs to wear a mask i know it's it's trouble but look there's going to be fashion masks coming out there's going to be cool looking masks there's going to be bandana masks all kinds of stuff it's just going to be oh shit it is over for you man these shoes are wearing pants your mask will be like a

pants it's over for humanity so it's really fucking easy for the health ranger mike adams to sit here in 2020 and say that the polio vaccine didn't do anything but i think it's tone to be a little fucking different if you're over 70 years old and live through the period prior to the advent of that vaccine it's hard to remember this because most of us have lived our entire lives in the post polio era but people were straight up terrified of polio for good reason in 1894 the first outbreak of polio occurred in vermont and caught doctors well nobody not the world but recorded in the united states and it caught doctors completely flat footed 18 people died and 132 were left permanently paralyzed at the time people were fairly clueless about the origin of the disease

and concluded based on preliminary information like things like observing family members not getting sick when one was that they decided it wasn't contagious smart 11 years later swedish scientist ivar wickman discovered the polio was in fact communicable and that people could have it without developing the severe version which often led to death or paralysis in 1916 a major outbreak struck new york leaving over 2000 dead in new york city cases spread across the country with a death toll reaching about 6000 and also leaving thousands more paralyzed permanently for decades scientists are trying to figure out a vaccine to no avail it was just the thing that people lived with the awareness of a terrifying disease that could kill you leave you paralyzed or put you into

an iron lung the march of dimes was created as a way of funding medical research into a cure or vaccine and through the contributions of millions of folks they did make some progress in 1952 there were over 57 000 polio cases in the united states with over 21 000 of them resulting in paralysis naturally with those kinds of numbers people were pretty anxious for a cure and a few years later jonah sulk would conclude his trials leading to the introduction of the first polio vaccine immediately from 1955 to 1957 the most polio cases that it no oh shit the polio rate in the united states dropped between 85 and 90 percent albert sabin would come along a few years later with an improved vaccine that could be taken orally and then polio was

essentially eradicated in the country the last naturally occurring case was said to have happened in 1979 but it wasn't an amish community and i don't mean that to say that amish are more likely to be anti vaccinated right but because of the secluded nature right sometimes communities are more under vaccinated yes not not opposition to vaccine underserved isolated yeah yeah yeah many of the people who had polio but survived they come down with post polio syndrome and people with pps make up one of the largest blocks of persons living with disability in the world the landscape of disability rights would be a lot different without a lot of the activists in the polio survivor community from ed roberts the founder of the world institute on disability

who got polio at 14 and had to be in an iron lung to judith hillman who lived basically her whole life with polio eventually becoming bill clinton's assistant secretary for education and rehabilitative services what mike is engaging here in here is a shocking and offensive erasure of millions of people's experience his whole the polio vaccine created more cases of polio shtick is just him misrepresenting what's known as the cutter incident in 1955 a number of recently vaccinated children were coming down with polio in paralysis of the arm where the vaccine was given to them when the cases were investigated they were found that these they traced back to cutter laboratory it was awful and i'm not minimizing the experiences of the hundreds of people who were affected by

the fuck up but this was a lab issue not a vaccine issue people were producing the vaccine they were not correctly preparing it and the in the process the virus itself was not being fully inactivated this hurt public confidence in the vaccine itself and it's used to this day by anti-vax weirdos like mike of course to try and claim that the vaccine gives you the disease yeah when it was a function of bad business being done if people have been more careful and actually that led to a lot of conversations about regulation of production of medical stuff well if you want to try and rewrite fdr's legacy on the new deal naturally you have to rewrite fdr's legacy on the fucking having polio sure like these people are insane so there's one other thing that mike

could be referencing but he'd also be lying about it so jordan i don't i don't know if you know this but there's a condition that's called circulating vaccine derived polio virus oh i do know that that's the thing that i'm fully aware of sounds like you're not yeah it's super fascinating and honestly the more you know about it the better an argument it is to vaccinate your children okay i'm in so in 2017 mostly because the number of naturally occurring polio cases was very small there were actually more cases of vaccine derived polio virus so here's how this works when you get a vaccine you're getting a weakened version of that disease put into your body so you can create an immune response to it which will give you an immunity sometimes but not always well

yeah fine yeah this is the case with this polio vaccine but if you get the vaccine it's not you who could get vaccine derived polio virus it's unvaccinated people around you oh shit so in the time that the weakened virus is inside you creating the immune response you can end up excreting the virus it is communicable in the in the case uh well not always not always but yeah yeah in the case that you're in a population that is under vaccinated that virus could end up getting picked up by someone who hasn't been vaccinated this person will likely be fine because it's just the weakened version of the polio virus and they'll ultimately end up creating an immunity to it as well most of the time sure however if the population uran is super under vaccinated it just might be

that this virus can jump from person to person for a long time and in the process mutate back into the form of polio virus that can cause serious problems like a paralysis the world health organization estimates that this process takes at least 12 months and between 2000 and 2017 in that 17 year span this occurred 24 times in the entire world and it led to 760 cases of vaccine derived polio virus no shit but that's compared to the estimated 13 million cases uh that vaccination programs had prevented i don't understand that's that's not a trade-off dan i'm not willing to make that trade-off also this is only an issue with the orally administered vaccine it's not the case mother for injected which is what's used in the united states so it's not even relevant to our lives

here necessarily but the vaccine derived like polio virus is fascinating that that's how it works that is that it can only really be a problem if there are a ton of people who are unvaccinated that can trade the the harmless virus right to each other to the point where it can you fascinate yeah that's that is that like that is that herd immunity concept and god i just don't understand people who can honestly argue against vaccinating their kids it has to be look i i mean not honestly i mean i get that people believe the anti vex bullshit i get that they believe it but the arguing of it seems insane to me yeah if you believe it just say that you think it causes autism or whatever it is your bullshit is and stop there the idea of

arguing with me is insane yeah it's insane it seems especially when you're the health ranger yeah it's sovereign citizen bullshit like for health you go into a courtroom and you're like i got this lawyers you think you can argue with a disease yeah exactly so when mike says that there are more cases of polio that come from vaccines that's what he's talking about he wants you to imagine a doctor giving you a shot that's going to give you polio but they claim its medicine but the reality is much different ultimately what i want to say is a big fuck you to mike adams polio was and is real and the vaccine has saved countless people in this country and around the world from paralysis and death infinite countless people people who have survived i i would beg anyone who's

interested go watch some documentaries about polio survivors like hear their stories it's what mike is doing is outrageous it really and all that mother fucker mike adams has ever given the world is a dumb ass Ebola cure that would definitely give you Ebola a couple of embarrassing rap songs and this shit it's over for humanity there will only be lone survivors go fuck yourself mike adams seriously he's gotta be he's strongly making an argument for himself as like being the worst he is like he really is like Alex will always have the grandfathered position of the worst right but that number two spot is it's constantly changing really close yeah it is it we are as alex is allowed more holocaust deniers and they've certainly taken precedence and steve

might always be in the number two spot but mike's making a great case for himself we're in a situation where we're past like obviously the law can't help us here but if we had somebody to take mike to arkham asylum it would be okay do you know what i mean i'm against vigilante justice but arkham asylum is a different situation you had a lot of downtime somebody's gotta stop the cowl somebody's gotta stop the joker i feel like you're gonna your girlfriend's condo is gonna have a cave in it soon if only we had a butler yeah well i'm free you would be a great alfred i think i could be alfred yeah you'd give me all kinds of targets and all this stuff and you'd be like jordan don't do that i'm not good with tech i would never do that alfred has some tech

sensibilities he does have a little bit yeah yeah it's gonna be a problem yeah all right well so we tried anyway mike is pushing really hard that everybody's got to get these masks and great i guess that's fine i guess say nothing else though say only people we need masks so they well unfortunately they have to keep talking yeah and they start discussing how like snopes and the government are saying don't take masks don't use the masks yes the truth is the government's gonna have to change what they've said about masks because the surgeon general adams had said stop stop buying masks and so because the government agencies had disinformation about masks they're gonna now have to reverse that and teach people know masks are good masks actually oh yeah they've

got uh snopes saying you don't need masks even though it's on record that's what doctors wear and they're effective but snopes is god they said no that snopes still says hydroxychloroquine's not good well you know again we're fighting the disinformation agents of the world which are globalists do you think that mike adams is mad that the surgeon general is technically a health ranger named adams i think he's mad that steve ap's doesn't know that we have a surgeon general i mean that was only like a month ago yeah alex and steve were like trump needs to install there's no surgeon generals we're all gonna die and to that extent i guess they're learning you know you got to give it up for them for that if it is true that the surgeon general is putting out

disinformation about whether or not masks are helpful for people who don't have the virus then there's only one person you should talk to about that and it's the person who appointed him and could replace him at any time and that's your god deep sake yeah on march 2nd surgeon general adams tweeted quote seriously people stop buying masks they're not effective in preventing general public from catching coronavirus but if healthcare providers can't get them to care for sick patients it puts them in our communities at risk then on april 2nd there was a headline from cnbc quote in a u-turn u.s surgeon general asks cdc to see if face masks can prevent coronavirus spread after all no matter what the reality of the situation is you kind of see how inept the

people trump surrounds himself with are and how you can't really rely on them for good messaging it's just it's just such an obvious thing that we're living through right now that when we get past this and we're all again capable of congregating these people need to face charges they just need to face charge like it is by their bungling of the system directly that many more people are going to die them specifically and their actions have killed people that is i don't know how other to describe that then as a crime a murder and they should face charges for that that's that it's not hard spiritually i don't disagree with you functionally i don't know what that looks like no idea but it's just that's just what should happen so the big issue that i

leaving that aside yes of course i don't know what to do with that we're not gonna we're not going to win that fight today and i don't think we'll ever be able to like sit here be like all right here's here's a step one yeah get several million people together in the same place so the issue that i have with mike is that he's framing the situation with the masks incorrectly there's a whole lot of debate about whether or not normal surgical masks are going to be helpful in stopping you from being exposed to the virus particularly if you're in close proximity with someone who's sick and coughing those masks do not create an airtight seal on your face so if the virus is admitted in a way that can be transmitted through the air you'll just come around the side

of the mask it's not yet clear that this is the means by which the virus is primarily or even largely transmitted but if it is then the masks won't really help with that however they are very helpful if you're already sick as they will be pretty effective at catching droplets on the way out of your mouth people who are sick should wear masks if they're out in public that is definitely true and if it's the case that people can be contagious when they're asymptomatic which looks like it may be the case then it would make sense for people to wear masks just in case the focus of mike's angle is wrong though if you're promoting people wearing masks for their own scent like as a self-defense mechanism that's nonsensical it really only makes sense as a public health measure

which seems i'm against public health i don't know if he's against it but it seems to not be at all the way he's presenting this information as you should wear masks because it'll make it less likely you give something to someone else right which is it should be the messaging right what his messaging is is the same as the fucking chloroquine situation where it's like all you're going to do right now because we don't have enough resources is draw a large number of people who have a large amount of resources into buying masks keeping them out of the hands of people who don't have the resources to get them and then we wind up in a worse off situation quite quite likely it's fucking infuriating i'm an idiot yep and i see this so there's a great piece in the

atlantic by ed yang that just came out about the mask issue and there's a lot of nuance to it the medical and employs free to store but i'll i'll continue the medical necessity of wearing masks is not really a consensus but there are a lot of side issues there are positives to the unit like the idea of universal mask wearing like decreasing the stigma that someone would feel wearing a mask if they are sick sure absolutely and the kind of signaling that it makes that the public is taking the disease seriously but there are also downsides like the fact that most people don't know how to wear masks and they often end up constantly adjusting and touching their masks which ultimately leads them to touch their face more which is one of the main things you're trying

not to do yeah it's more complicated as a picture you know than just saying everyone should wear masks and then being like i'm the health ranger i did a great job alex give me a check right all right what's less up for discussion is that there aren't enough masks to go around right now so any advice that involves saying that they're essential and the definite solution here is probably not going to be great if medical workers are having a difficult time finding masks then it's not a great idea to encourage everyone to continue buying up masks unless you're also able to simultaneously seriously boost the immediate supply of said masks one thing that i find very interesting is that there's no part of info wars model that can really thrive in the context of rational consumption

everything needs to be pitched in a way that's likely to create runs on products alex sells his food buckets by saying everyone's out of food which is meant to cause a hyper inflation of demand alex is reported on chloroquine as a documented miracle cure and we've seen how shortages of the drug is popped up in this episode alone mike is saying that the country needs to be flooded with zinc and that everybody needs to be wearing wearing masks that if everyone took his gospel would absolutely lead to runs on both products i'm not saying that these dudes are causing these runs but their business model is really only built to be profitable when they're able to exploit and ride those waves yeah and i think that's something that's worth pointing out and

something that maybe isn't all that clear except when you're in these situations yeah it does that is a really really good point because yeah it seems like they exist only to prop up bubbles and then float to the next one like they sit on top of the bubble it explodes and by the time it explodes they've already jumped on to the next bubble there they're the credit default swaps of human beings like they're disgusting and awful and they're killing all of us yeah it's like not much else to say it's like the wrong interpretation of that quote like there comes in the in the affairs of men that you know you catch the wave it leads to fortune yeah yeah yeah the tide yeah i don't know exactly how it goes i know it's a shakespeare quote but i only know it

from woodhouse i'm pretty sure i'm pretty sure t jefferson said that yeah absolutely so also snopes didn't say don't wear masks they were just reporting on what statements were being made by officials one of the sources cited in their article that is you know mike and alex's hero donald trump who said quote i'm sorry this is from the article quote trump said tuesday that his scientific advisors made clear the general public shouldn't be competing with hospitals and health workers for scarce masks of any type his solution quote use a scarf if you want trump said at the daily white house briefing i don't know what was the 25th amendment for this it was for this right i can't find any snopes articles about hydroxychloroquine being bad they would

never say that because they aren't idiots and they realize that the drug has other real uses the only a real article i could find that covers the subject is about hanity and rudy juliani's claim that this mysterious doctor had successfully treated all of his coronavirus patients with hydroxychloroquine z pack and zinc is tvp's the article doesn't say that the claim is not true just that it's unproven which is exactly what the doctor at the center of this claim dr zelenko said quote in an interview with forward zelenko acknowledged that his regimen was new and untested and it was too soon to assess its long term effectiveness cool so cool awesome great work oh man these guys snopes isn't saying that wearing masks is our bad or that hydroxychloroquine

is bad just that these are not settled questions and that there's nuance and as we know alex fucking hates nuance he gets really mad at it and this is how he behaves it does seem like the concept of anyone reporting something without making something up or using it is so horrific to him that he hates it like it's so awful that he has this burning hatred like the idea of snopes just being like we're just going to quote people who say something in response to a question that's all we're going to do we're not going to make up anything we're not even going to give a point of view or or anything like that it's just like i mean that's one part of it and then he's constantly on the wrong side of it yeah that's true he well he's on the wrong side of reality yeah his discourage of his

existence is fact checkers right and so obviously they're always going to be enemies right right but whatever the case we're done now with this section of the show thank god we're going to get into something completely different and as a transition we have alex coming back in from break and i'm going to apologize in advance for this because i think this is going to traumatize some of our listeners because of the music choice that he's using because usually we've seen a lot of him doing the over the sacks you belong to the city sure doing a little speech this time he uses policy a truth which oh no which is a real slap in the face yeah but mike down for this because alex gets into a weird fantasy that makes me think that maybe he's been playing castlevania okay

there's a slick show let's do a little bit of it you meant he's so cool walking in castle at night the moon is rising you see those red eyes all the distance but you're not scared you've been here before so a policy of truth but i do i love it i love it what you said

welcome back ladies and gentlemen welcome back dork that is like this stupidest like that's it's almost like a like he's jerking off just mumbling to himself about fighting a vampire or something the moon at night you can see those red eyes oh my god i just watched the ninth gate policy of truth that's what i do i do the policy of truth i think he did just watch the ninth gate because that girl who's the devil had red eyes and they're at a castle at night he is not scared wait but that but that movie no that movie is about books there's no way all right no no no you said castlevania the game yeah there is a netflix anime based on the video game is that right yeah totally and absolutely that's 100 castlevania vibe 100 possible because of the castle

that he mentioned could be could be that's just that's like is there a castle there's a castle in highlander i'm going to mark that off on our bingo card no not yet all right all right okay but there there's just like the vibe there is like someone i wouldn't want to hang out with as a kid maybe anyway we get now into alex doing part two of the show yes um and it's much sillier yes it is much sillier i don't really get into very much because i see it overall as a tar baby whoa what a lot of time studying it what

and not great i know what it is no you don't and it doesn't mean the whole thing's bad but in the main what it does is destructive in the end there's a lot of people i respect and like that are really into it i'm gonna go with porn because it's that what we're doing and i noticed it's something that the media attacks a little but they don't censor it they don't block it and i personally talk to the president i personally talked to a lot of other people and he loves porn and i really do have amazing sources but i have my own analysis that most of the time they tune in for the p-tape is real but there's something about a fortune hunt there's something about a puzzle further in the back of the treasure hunt we all call it a fortune

hunt they're sold in booklets of crosswords and who are you because it makes you feel like they're in this magic intrigue so i always thought we just wake everybody up and we defeat the new world order sure but you see they've got ways to create their own larping cosmologies live action roleplay and it just soaks up the energy and and and the immediacy of everything so someone you don't know who you are you never talk to them there's no proof but you trust the plan and as one goes we all go and all this stuff you'd imagine an occult you'd be chanting so it's clearly qanon yeah he's talking about qanon yeah yeah that sounds

this is so fucking funny alex is apparently now mad at qanon and i checked in with the guys over qanon anonymous to see if something had happened recently sure she's causing this outburst they had no idea no clue of course but what's really funny to me about this is how transparent it is alex wants his audience to think that the reason he's mad is because this is a psyop that's working against these political goals but that's absurd i've listened to alex's show the whole stretch of time that qanon's existed and it's very obvious that he hates qanon because he was unable to funnel them into his revenue stream he really wanted the fact that he's starting a fight like this right now or being like i'm going to start cover in this yeah it leads me to believe

that he wants a publicity stunt yeah he wants that he's looking for some attention out of this and he's going to try and metaphorically cut a chip out of a homeless person's arm about this that's the feeling that i get this is a stunt it seems a little bit like he's trying to start a feud with joe rogan in order to get back on the podcast but he just he's like he's trying to call out whoever says they're q and see if they'll get on his show boy you need to hold on to those thoughts oh boy but what's interesting is like i've listened to this show like forever and i know that back on january 6th alex literally told his good buddy joel scousen that he attempted to and wanted to co-opt qanon i remember that didn't work nothing that qanon has said has ever come true this is a

pure disinformation expert and sadly a lot of trump supporters including my some of my subscribers well i was thinking i was thinking i'm just going to endorse it and then and then co-opt it publicly and go oh q says this q says that because everybody loves a little magic stuff because it's fortunate it's it's it's definitely a delusional issue and it's sucking up so many good people into yes yes here is my plan i was going to take over q say that i was q and then tell all of qanon's dumb dumb followers that it's my stuff yes i was just going to use the name that's very popular to promote my own things exactly uh very honest straightforward straight shooting for sure cool absolutely historically alex has been able to piggyback and monetize all of the

hard right fringe movements that have come along because he's always been the biggest game in town and prior to social media he was able to be very secure in that position he situated himself as the head of the 9 11 truth folks he was able to use the oath keepers and his connection to them to co-op much of the tea party enthusiasm that bubbled up in the 2009 period and then perched atop of it he was able to frame himself as the king of all sorts of reality defying conspiracy theories that were popular online like sandy hook and the boston bombing but now alex is not needed qanon exists entirely outside of alex's world and they don't like him if there was a dime in it for alex to support or play along with this shit he'd probably be doing that but since they're hostile

to him he knows that this is not a fertile market so fuck him this is so funny to me and i think it's probably mostly just the result of alex's interview with ted newton's wife who's super i think there's fallout for that you think that's why you think she got mad at him or he got mad at her about that i don't know that's so funny i think maybe ted what a tech game of text like hey don't you start talking about qanon are you saying qanon's not real i mean if ted newton's wife is super into qanon you gotta expect head might be right oh man what can you imagine look this is the first time that i'm really feeling a lot of empathy for ted newton stuck between his wife and qanon on one side and alex jones and alex jones on the other side that's brutal what relationship

do you choose dad neither this is a alien versus predator situation whoever ten newtons predator by the way whoever wins we lose ten newtons a song where he talks about how he's a predator he is a sexual predator that's for sure you bet alex doesn't care about that though no not important so alex is like it's pretty mad at q and but there's some good things about q like it they you know people who are into it like to do research which is laughable sure and just because people buy into it they then think it's good well you're good and you can do some good waking people up in yeah i've been ambivalent about you know the whole cute thing because i know and it's a whole it's a sigh up but we could take it over it's good to get people researching but if they research

things that are proven like don't give an example don't do it it's going to be bad don't stop disease x god damn it one lockstep rockefeller project robot ship our memorandum 200 club of rome 1968 depopulation agenda i mean these are real things you go to the library and read read online you you can read eco science can 1974 john p holdren you actually can't it's against the law plan for world government sterilization know how science are 35 years later no 37 years later what else you got i mean that's all me and potato so again it's the same sort of thing it's like yeah look there's a lot of enthusiasm among these people but they're not pushing my talking points right and that's frustrating that makes me angry yes and there's a lot of meat and potatoes on that

like there's a lot of meat and potatoes on the bowls and fucking hook and there's a lot of meat and potatoes in their bank accounts yeah he's not be coming into my meat bowl and my potato bowl and i'm pissed off about it i would like meat and potatoes now obviously that's one very very clear piece of this that he can't monetize going on and it really pisses him off really frustrates but there's a second piece of this and i think it might actually be more what's driving him okay and that i think one of the reasons why i suspect that this has to do with ted newton's wife right is that this seems kind of personal okay it seems like as we go through alex's grievances with qanon a lot of it seems to revolve around the idea that people think qanon's real but alex doesn't get

enough respect it seems to be like no one likes me as much as that the number one thing i hate about qanon is that they're trying to co-op cap scratch fever and i can't have that in my house hey look q said that uh a strangle old doesn't rock and i cannot put up with it it seems very petty it just gets insanely petty i'll just get to it now i said i do it next time but i'm already trying to do i say i'm gonna get something that i get to it right then then i'll get to all the other people who i've known and they come over real satisfied on the street and they just go oh yeah i'll make sure you're not at the q level or whatever and i'm i'm sitting there knowing that what i write when i say gets taken and put into the president's speeches you know the president calls

my wife up and says man your husband's a real man he's got a lot of courage what he's going through the president personally told me don't back down you're real i'm real men like us know the truth the destiny of america press the attack he doesn't remember your name right now and that's on record that telly freaked out that trump and i were talking all the time and it's still and all the rest all the time all the time from the president hanging out last week had a top national talk shows call up talk about the president the analysis and what we're doing yesterday they want american news network so yeah what that hannity yeah hannity yeah tucker whatever man i don't give a shit like the so look the whole thing is all just like comparing

himself to q anon oh yeah but what's crazy about it is the way that starts is alex being like i have people that i know come up to me who are into q anon like you're not q level these are your friends man curate your friend group better don't get mad he's not capable of curating a friend group don't get mad that you're not as cool as q with your friends that's not a good game that means you need better friends oh god but it's worse it's not be worse than that his friend group says he's not q level dude it's not just friends oh no i run into cousins and people buckling or i see like i've seen a few videos where you'll see like these delusional crazy looking people they go i used to like alex jones but now i'm with the president and i know jones is in israeli spy

what the hell does that mean moving the u.s embassy to jerusalem pro-israel i'm using israeli spy exactly i've got some criticism of israel and a lot of the leftist jewish lobby attacks me but that's another what qism is that i work for israel i am the most proud of the fact that i am totally independent and a maverick created the modern talking points that were adopted by the president and his speech writers as the relaunch of america so let me just explain something the reason you see me attacked everywhere and the reason they're suing me and trying to kill me and trying to set me up and somebody doxxed my house yesterday and called in a fake police report all the rest of it your address was in your ui report the new order let me just explain how this is but see i've never really

said that to people it's a fact info wars is the new world order executor not true because we have the giant audience of americans of every race color and creed who bleed red blood and love freedom it's like 50 dudes now man give it up and we've changed the world 1776 worldwide infiltrating bohemian grove confronting the globalistic sounds like brody steven 14 years ago yes positive energy all the guests all the info all the information la local battling and then to sit there austin original infiltrated bohemian grove enjoy it enjoy it that just like that rhythm struck me there very weirdly but that does seem to be

barbecued um so i would translate that entire thing by like q anon says my dick small yes my dick large yeah very much trump and i talk all the time about how big my dong is oh yeah this is just this is so personal there's something so personal to it the fact that one complaint that gets into a petty grievance begins with like friends around me or into q and then a cousin comes up to me maybe it's not buckley maybe there's another cousin he's into q who knows man who knows that's true he's not with info wars anymore i know he's freed up to believe in q i thought he was just making music man he was just pursuing his dreams yeah one could only hope yeah he's somewhere in chicago by the way he apparently lives in chicago of course he does why would he

find buckley he's like across the street from us for sure i swear in this quarantine we're going to walk back if you're listening i gotta hope you are i probably hit me up yeah hit me up i want to come see a show well maybe not during this but knowledge underscore fight bugly yeah um yeah the fact that it's like so presented as like people in his immediate vicinity it makes me think that he's really just mad at people around him not giving him the respect that he feels he deserves in comparison to this internet hoax yeah no the my note and let me let me just read this for you this is just said double underline yeah oh yes this is sad oh yes this is pathetic and i wish it was an april fools thing and i'm not positive it's not by the way it end well i'm positive the

feeling isn't right no no that's that's 100 real yeah he uses his petty voice i love it when he gets that staccato to him like that but here's what people don't understand man but what people don't understand is that alex is real don't respect him enough not true and people who believe in q are being tricked by trolls in many of the same internet message boards that is alex gets tricked by trolls that yes but let's not examine that too close i don't want to look into it somebody could get hurt my biggest problem with the q people is it's always you know crazy thinking they're on a secret mission with internet trolls manipulating them and a lot of it is just the fun of manipulating folks and then it just becomes a big internet scam of mental illness to see who they can manipulate

and control and all this and then the woman holds up a baby with q on its back it's 60 yards away the president can't even see what's going on they go look the q is there he just signed on to it it's the total proof a sheriff's deputy has a q on him and the sheriff's deputies are wanting to be part of an american revolution like fight club they're wanting to come and be in the club with the president and then the and then the vice president you know is with a sheriff's deputy in florida with a q on his deal and the vice president deletes it because they know and don't want to be part of it but then the president tweets my reporters and myself while they're telling him not to this year and last year people go that means nothing when the president tweets you it means nothing when

you have robert barnes on it messes the president and the president tweets that tweet and that show that's nothing talking to the president the president calling your wife up telling her how great you are none of that matters because i am not god q the master of the universe he's so mad dan these people are all out here with these internet trolls they're all doing this for fun i do it for money i just hear wow like it oh it's bad cool i get it what's really interesting to me about this is like obviously there is a headline that's easy to write on this story and that is that alex takes aim at q anon i would go in alex is a loser little titty baby that should be the headline yeah sub headline explanation he fights with q anon yeah the lead of the story needs to be

alex feels slighted by internet conspiracy alex alex feels completely i mean to use paul joseph watson's life which cooked by uh something that he can't control this is outside of his ability and he's dealt with it okay the fact that he can't control it over the course of as long as it's existed yeah it seems like right now he is coming up against something there's some sort of a crisis maybe he needs a flashy attention grabbing publicity stunt and trying to get into a fight with a fake thing yeah is probably a way to do it i don't know it it seems desperate it seems attention grabby and all rooted in i'm mad it does it does get the feel of like the the young eat the old like it like isn't it inevitable if you are a conspiracy theorist

famous enough for long enough that eventually you will be the subject of the very conspiracy that you are pretending to fight well i'm not sure i'm not sure if alex ever sooner or later are going to be like you're nothing you're part of the thing that our conspiracy theory is now yeah i'm not sure that alex ever turned bill cooper into like a villain in his conspiracy narrative sure but he did lie about him yeah yeah and lied about their relation for sure and we talked about that in one of our past episodes right right right but like um yeah maybe maybe alex had used to have the class to not do that yeah to not turn bill into like a villain yeah but he's now getting that treatment for sure he's gonna fight for his life well i mean queuing on like i said

like one of the most important things about it is it exists outside of alex it doesn't need alex and it has the freedom to be like alex is a fucking shill fuck that guy yeah fuck that they call him pay a patriot p a y nice read that's actually the most accurate thing he was ever done distrusting alex yeah but that one's easy so as we get further through this when he went to commercial break there i thought like well he said his piece he's done no holy shit he's not even he's on a tear huh he is so mad at q you know i had the founder of q at my house about two years ago i mean q should have hired him he should have hired q for some reason i did well that's a you hired old man houseboat very frustrating to me to see people out there believing all

this q stuff when i can i mean everybody already knows and he got hijacked within three days of him launching it and it started out just just some guys having some fun that were authorized to engage in psyops so it did start with people in the trump campaign and people that worked in u.s intelligence stone is q and you know i'm just gonna call him and i'm gonna ask him to come on it's time to solve it yes yes okay yes so alex is here saying that he had the founder of q on his uh his house and he almost hired him but there shouldn't be a reveal to anyone who's listened to alex's show or paid attention alex has already claimed many times that his fake intelligence whistleblower zack is part of the team that started q and on he's already solved this mystery

according to the in world reality so unless he's just trying to get zack back on the show this doesn't make any sense shouldn't be too hard this is not an open question they've already done this with zack of course but don't worry about zack well we'll put zack aside i'm writing down people who could have been i'm i'm going to go with roger stone could be the only person that i think that alex would if i just call him and get him on the show that's true but he's not going to actually call whomever fake the q is anyways so i think who has the like i wouldn't be surprised if steve pechenek had the balls to just take that swing and be like you know alex i started q it was all me oh i'm certain steve yeah yeah for sure for sure he's one of those two guys

exactly uh maybe it's time that we need to call in our our friends over at q and on anonymous i think that they have an expertise in like who might be hated by q and on who who could possibly be the the people who started it right you know but then had it taken away three days the three what if that's what q and on the three day window is very specific and i i don't have the kind of expertise that someone like travis does sure we may need help you know why you don't have the expertise that travis does because travis is q that's what happened travis went to alex's house three days later q was stolen from him he started q and on anonymous done i've salted this travis call it out this could be true call it out travis all right so maybe

we'll check in with them and see what happens but the issue here is that alex knows who started q and on and of course could have hired them didn't hire them weird considering who gets job offers from him now here's the thing q is wrong all the time now but weren't for those three days or something okay all right and you've got all these famous new age are saying that the powers about to go off this week for three days and then the power will go off in one town like it always does they go oh q just did a test yet and no matter how many times don't trust the plan robert muller is going to come out in the rest of everybody some guys started it that were inside the white house that were on air force one

and and and one of these guys i can't figure out he does a lot of great work is really smart he court one day and he goes hey what do you think trump ought to tweet about you today and i said that i have a big dick i'll go ahead just i'd like to tweak this and the president tweeted three things from info wars dan scovino and i said okay well why did you do that obvious the president said that he goes well yeah so yeah the founder of q talks to the president it's oh man it was taken away from them why within three days and the very person who created it attacks it it's attacked by it now and can't stand it so i tip my hand a little bit early that i revealed that the person who created it now is attacked constantly by q

which is a clue to who it is and i don't fucking know who that is i don't know who q attacks q seems to attack just about everybody yeah or the followers all it seems to be just about anybody who's not on board with the quote on quote plan yeah hashtag and it is so sad to listen to a man describe his business model grilly when somebody else is using it how dare that nothing that he say comes true no all of this stuff is a hoax perpetrated to fool people just stuff they pulled from fortune exactly like god damn it alex yeah look into a fucking mirror but i think that's why he's mad is because like everyone they're just doing what i do and everyone like is so into it and they don't respect me and i'm kicked off social media you can still post about q on

social media but a dick it is it is so much like the the older brother that gets in trouble and they're like well what he does stuff too he does stuff too why isn't he getting in trouble in my experience with the older brother that works with alex this is not okay same strategy possibly but the older brother usually gets away with that here's the thing man q lies it's all lies well yeah but sometimes it's strategic lies you understand that that's not okay disinformation is sometimes necessary important for enemies and how exactly yeah but you know what it turns out alex is not capable of that that's he's physically incapable of lying sure my sigh up is is just butt naked balls the walls see we're on i mean it's just you know pull swords start hacking i don't

got a shield i got two swords and and that's just what i do and but i can see all the stuff i see right through it i see for miles and miles i see through flesh i see through stone i see through fog because i live in truth and the more the brain gets addicted to truth sometimes i'll try to sell a strategic lie for counterintelligence what's important to do what are you doing somebody's corrupt and i can't even say things now that that that because i just i get more and more the more you tell the truth the more becomes addicting because the brain doesn't have to filter or manipulate that's what a liar would say wow yeah i can't imagine i can't imagine alex thinking that he's honest about everything but whatever i'm proposing a new police force right

people who love words i'll get together a bunch of what words mean like me and a bunch of my librarian friends and a couple lit professors and we'll just go around and be like if you don't mean what words mean you don't get to use those words anymore so all alex gets our definite articles he can have a and and the the end i feel like i don't even want to say and the i feel like your fantasy is sort of out of the phantom toll booth one of the kingdoms maybe dick to topless runs a little could be all right okay the weather be you might i want to have some words well hey so alex knows the secret of q he knows he knows who's behind it he knows all this it's all good and uh in this clip alex says something ends up saying something that i think is like

shockingly spiritually true but so stupid i know who started q the two gosh i've forgotten more than most people ever know why do you think the pentagon the cia the president tunian this is the oracle folks the guest the callers myself what we do this is unfiltered there's nothing else like this on earth hmm almost everybody else couches what they're gonna say thinks about what they're gonna say and how it'll affect them or others people are scared i'm not so when he says people will couch things and they you know they think about thing that's called preparing yeah i mean that's called doing work i mean i i guess alex is saying that he's not afraid to not prepare i i mean not to to go even further than that you know i mean when

i think i think of the the old at the adage compassion or cruelty or what is honesty without compassion is cruelty and the way he's describing that is a lot of people think about how this is going to make people feel and i'm a truth teller i don't give a shit sure no you're a piece of shit you're an asshole yeah it's that honesty the the way that always was presented in church was honesty without grace yeah is is is cruelty yeah absolutely yeah on on and he's lying on one level you're absolutely right that is sort of what he is manifesting but on a more just sort of concrete level he's just trying to rationalize why he doesn't prepare yeah like i agree a lot of people come in and they think about what they're going to say no i just shoot

from the hip because i'm not scared like no you just can't do work you just can't because if you did you'd have no excuse for why you're wrong all the time yeah it's just nonsense i mean i bet he could do work if he wanted to be a farmer maybe he could learn how to till i don't think he can do journalism oh yeah sure manual labor he's capable yeah i think he's capable of manual labor yeah i think we should i think he's capable of of brain labor too he just is unwilling i don't think so i think he's just unwilling i think maybe there was a time when he was capable of brain work i still think he's perfectly capable of it now he just is it's far more profitable to function the way he does that's totally at this point that's totally

fair so alex talks more about how he knows the creators of q so now it's two people we know that yeah they're they hate what it's become of course and are demonized and pillory right by q anon and uh this is a real this is real trouble two people that created it and launched it one a political operative one government intelligence agency zack had a hijacked within three days and they know that and both of them attack it and tell you it's crap but again it's like the father gives birth to something one day it comes to take them oh wow imagine being the creator of it and watching it turn into frankenstein's monster and then come i feel like that is something alex is very familiar with deeply personal thing you just

said right there imagine meeting a fan for you alex yeah so that's tough oh boy alex i think that there's a lot of specifics there and we're not in a position to really know who uh who this is hinting at but it's definitely hinting at somebody that probably is very well determinable like if you were really into q anon yeah i bet that you know it almost exactly who alex is probably talking about i think it's possible yeah yeah i wish i had that kind of awareness but i don't we're gonna have to call the boys so anyway look dude the thing is that trump doesn't like q anon right i i could not think of anything trump cares less about he doesn't like it i don't think he has an opinion on it

what's about he loves enforce i don't think he cares either the president is aware of who launched these operations without being authorized to it they were authorized to engage in counter operations against globalists what does that even fucking mean very quickly three days president taps it down and is not promoted but people still go looking for the magic moment that they're finally not rebuffed by the vice president or the president while our guests are openly promoted by the president and this show is openly promoted and despite all the attacks and all of it oh that's nothing so in alex's narrative q is real for three days and then it was co-opted and since then trump has not supported it but that makes no sense as recently as march 8th trump was retweeting q

anon related content something has a really consistent habit of doing on january 2nd the daily beast reported on how in the evening of december 27th 2019 trump retweeted or quote tweeted approximately 20 accounts who promote q anon conspiracies trump invited q anon people to his social media summit he invited linel to the white house and he's done basically everything he could possibly do to amplify and encourage q anon followers short of directly saying it's true in terms of the things that trump has publicly signaled he's given a way more tacit and direct support to q anon than alex and that's probably because alex isn't useful anymore yep if i were alex i'd be pissed too but i probably wouldn't have ever gotten into this stupid situation

where i'm competing with a completely lunatic decentralized conspiracy theory for the president's respect and attention yeah that's a bad place to be even if you win that that's not a good situation you know there's it's just like there's no way to know there's no way for alex to have known that trump would just abandon people once they stop oh yeah certainly there's just no way to this is out of left field it is not as catch frayed what catch frayed was you're fired it's not as though this has been a years long decades long commitment to lying and fucking over people no not at all you know what this feels like to me as as we go through this i start to realize is a little more this feels a lot like someone asking for a raise when they don't know if they're

going to get it you know like you should never go into your boss's office and ask for a raise if you're not confident enough that like they value you as an employee dan have you do you know anybody who might have asked for a raise your boy yeah i was also fired for asking for well you asked for a raise for a co-worker of yours and you know that was a little bit different that is a little that was a crime that they committed i i about yes you you asked for a union ash sort of thing in my in my situation it was like you realize that like if you get into that position where if you don't think that like if you don't have a reasonable expectation that you have leverage to get that raise yeah even if you deserve it if you ask for it and the answer is no

then you got to quit or you got to accept it yeah and if you accept it you can't ask again without them having that like your ability to say no because you're going to expect yeah there's that expectation yeah you don't want to get yourself into that situation because the outcome other than getting the raise means that you better be prepared to quit yeah and for sure for alex getting into a fight with qanon like this which is pointless or stupid a number of reasons it just seems like a situation where like you you're not going to come out ahead here because there is no coming out ahead right you better be ready to quit because you're going to end up looking like a dick here it is it is very ironic there's more organic support for qanon than alex

for sure no it's ironic to me that somebody there's more bots than are in favor of qanon than alex he doesn't have the organic side covered he doesn't have the fake side covered sorry i keep interrupting no no i find interrupting to be unacceptable to now it's ironic to me that for somebody who's professed ideology is almost entirely about decentralized conflict and the way that those types of groups can function independently yeah a leaderless resistance he has no concept of how to battle against a leaderless resistance he still thinks that there's a q guy well he well no or at least he still thinks that there's somebody to have a feud with do you know what i mean well i mean hypothetically there is

because there's still someone posting as q really yeah so there is still like a hypothetical thing but like the point at which we're at now like the the reality of qanon is so insane yeah and so diverse yeah that like you can't really take issue with like because you could be like hey you guys are a bunch of idiots you believe the jfk juniors alive right there's a large contingent that doesn't think he's still alive of course and they'll be like no you got the wrong idea about q right these basically become libertarians yeah like you got the wrong q yeah exactly that's not real q that's not a libertarianism you're talking to the wrong people they give them they give q a bad name of course they do yeah basically why you start a fight with that yeah just going to

end up like you're basically playing oh my god what if qanon became its own political party and we got to watch the primary qanon candidates we got the primary debates of just qanon people like we did with the libertarian debates i want the qanon debates i can't imagine anything being more wild than than those libertarian debates they're pretty incredible they booed gary johnson when he said that you should have a driver's license he was just saying that like hey i think that some people maybe old people who can't see maybe they shouldn't be able to we'll never vote for this guy we want mackafee murder a couple people then we'll talk we're off track a little bit i i can't imagine how that happened but alex is just like this this is a losing gamble no

matter what happens yeah and also i should be clear i don't believe him like i don't i don't believe the the premise that he's he's yeah absolutely not i feel like we haven't really been clear enough about that right right that i don't believe that he had the person who started q in his home that he could have hired absolutely not but anyway the issue is that q started for those first three days as a really good thing sure you know i'm gonna call up the guys that created q and uh just see if they'll just want to come out about they do they're wrong they do people like mystery they do have white house connections fortune hunts

thought that they could build this army of like fight club of americans to take on the deep state but instead it became a way to stand down and be delusional and then do nothing and then we now know the globalists have totally taken control of it and they tell you that alex jones is the enemy and things like that so again it's just about how he doesn't like that they don't like him this is here's the easiest way yeah here's the easiest way for me sure if he did know who actually created q yeah that name would be all over the internet right now while he's in a feud that's exactly what would happen he would put the name out as soon as possible and try and start a feud there well maybe maybe yeah i think i think

that's the only way for it the only way for him to prove i not prove but like win in this circumstance had he the name is to play that card that's an interesting theory yeah that's an interesting theory and we'll see how this plays out all right so alex has spent a but i mean he ends up spending more than half of his entire show complaining about q that sounds exactly right that sounds exactly right that's kind of why i think it's an april fools thing just because it's excessive it's a ridiculous amount of time he spends complaining about q to the point where he ends up going to calls and this caller that this first one that he gets kind of needs to reassure him that like alex you're the real q oh the reality is if you take that definition

they're a patriot with q level access uh to say you're not part of that is ridiculous if anything you're the real q and you have been for 24 years you're just not anonymous you're like he said you need to take this over you're the one that's doing all the real work i don't want to take anything over i want to defeat the globalist and i want to get it i want to retire okay i believe you want to retire i also believe you want to take over q yeah no i think he did now at this point fuck it yeah you need to destroy it yeah that's true it's it's it's it's not it's not something that is um necessarily salvageable for you it's not something that's co-optable it has to be destroyed right it's in your sphere and it hates you it thinks you're a shill right maybe for

israel or maybe your intelligence or whatever whatever you know you're something that is negative you're a patriot yeah um you know you have to destroy it you don't want to take that over now no you can't i don't know it's too late i'm trying to think of a way for him i guess if he tried to reveal that he was the true q but nobody's going to believe that bullshit it's too late for that now well i mean he already tried with zack and no one cares and alex is probably going to pretend that that didn't ever happen but so we know that recently alex put out a series of bumper stickers and one of them said i am q go to info wars dot com right which was a shameless attempt to try and cash in on the cuban on stuff and uh he talks about that a little bit

here i said six months ago i'm gonna put bumper stickers out that say you put them in all the orders that say i am q info wars dot com if all of you go out and say hey q is going to expose that hydroxy chloroquine's really great and they didn't want you to know and make it about real stuff it's awesome but it's not dungeons and dragons and and live action role play for everybody it kind of is that's what i'm telling you and the people that created it are big star wars fans and live action role play and they're real people but they just know everybody works did you create it i was like what so i like the idea that he's saying this isn't live action role playing but i put out bumper stickers that said i am q and if people went around it just used my narratives and

applied them to this fictional character right which would kind of be live action role playing it seems like it that would be great and it's not live action role playing that would be silly so you suggested that the only way this should play out is that alex just says the name of the person if he knew it yeah but it turns out there's another way that you can play this sure especially if you're really just trying to get attention there we go you know what i'll just expose it okay like i gave joe rogan a deadline i don't love joey's good guy what are we doing i grow up next tuesday to come out with it all or i'm gonna expose it next wednesday there seven days it's a homeless man with a chip in his arm all the documents let's start firing it up get it ready

okay just watch okay there's something real for you folks that's not talk what about six months ago i released that obama ran torture facilities inside china with the chinese government and that uh blackwater xc at the time who you hired services ran these facilities that's like ultra secret information okay no one reported it no one cared okay you can send obama to prison for that total weaponization of evil and i just wanted trump to know when i was bringing up some other stuff i wanted to get a message to the president that day so i just added oh let me create just something incredibly secret and just a little little something for you that you know the the army gave me you know i don't know folks have heard like delta force or any of that

but see this is the real world right here this is not fantasy land and i risked my life doing this this is a world whoa i think there was a five second delay there might have been so i have legitimately no idea what story alex is talking about about obama using blackwater to torture people in china mostly because there's no story about this on info wars dot com and i can find zero corroborating information anywhere all right well there's that however assuming it's true why is alex so into eric prince who ran blackwater right why does alex brag about employing x blackwater people as his security everybody's got to work if they were involved in clandestine torture sites shouldn't alex be opposed to the people who are involved in that company blah blah blah who cares

economy dan you take what jobs you can so you notice that bleep and i went and found the video of this and here's what he actually said i don't know folks have heard like delta force or any of that but see this is the real world right here this is not fantasy land and i risked my life doing this this isn't breadcrumbs and horseshit this is the real world so he the well the breadcrumbs part is like a real specific you reference i think it's all just because he said horseshit yeah yeah but the the thing is like he can't swear on radio feeds right he can't do things like that that will cause a real problem yeah and the fact that like it doesn't really matter means he's not on that many stations yeah i get the audio feeds to like pull these episodes from genesis communications

network sure sure so like it is the feed that goes out on the radio right whenever there are things that are blurb like blips like this i check on his his own feed of course there are things like this every now and again but like there is also like a look on his face after he says horseshit where it's like someone said in his ear like stop dude yeah or something like that there is a look that is kind of like yeah because then he immediately jumps back to calls right right immediately is like all right gotta get off this bullshit let's take the next call take the next call gotcha so he goes to a call and this caller has a dumb theory about why the chinese would release this virus i like it uh alex it's no secret that china does not run president trump

to continue to be president is no secret would you would you agree with that yes uh what better successful way at at stopping president trump from holding successful rallies as successful in the past oh no this helps them on every front and it lets them do mail-in ballots it shuts down the economy it just it covers every one of their little checkboxes mail-in ballots are fine in most states in the country and i don't look if your theory is that this virus was released in order to stop trumps rallies man you're gone man you're far gone also i realized that we didn't even really take much of a moment to even talk about the fact that alex gave a week for the uh i i thought you were i thought you had already written it down on your calendar like this oh of

course i have yeah i thought this i got a tattoo this is the same thing with the homeless guy in the computer chip we're going to be listening to this very exciting yes like a fucking hot we might be oh yeah live stream it as it's happening this is like this is my wrestle man this is the biggest news that's ever happened wrestle mania is not happening live this year so for me it's alex next wednesday this is this is wimbledon the french open and the fucking this is a huge deal for me here's two things that aren't going to happen one wimbledon the well maybe three things sorry the person who started q and on coming out and being like well alex forced my hand i must reveal myself that's not a match second thing that's not happening is alex having a big thing on

next wednesday's show absolutely not where he reveals the reality and the truth about the first three days of q and absolutely not good god that's so funny it's pretty amazing he's going to do it this time though i believe him i believe him when he says that he's finally going to take down q and it's really nice of him to give q a week well but it's it's it's the exact same thing that you were you sort of touched down a bit earlier and that is the the thing with rogan and he even brings that up it's like i gave rogan a chance and it's because you were trying to get a media stunt out of this yeah the reason that you give that window as opposed to being like fuck it here's the reality is because you want to get coverage from i mean you want to get coverage

from media matters you want to get covers coverage from right wing watch you want to get people tweeting about it you want to get people making fun of the fact that you're doing this absolutely because it's organic even if it's making fun of you it's still free press people and now it's isn't such a desperate position right now now granted i mean the position that we're in because the lives we live at this show i have made peace with the fact that i'm very excited about how this is going to play out that mostly because i know it's going to be a done i know right it's going to be heraldo opening that tomb forever that's that's the perfect microcosm of alex's career we've got this big story coming up all right and we're on to the next thing yeah nothing

and the last example of that was the microchips in the people experiencing homelessness and that leads us nicely into this next call this caller asks about how we got how are we going to fight back against the microchipping agenda we're going to put our own microchips in no oh was it id 2020 um you know with microchips and digital tattoos they want to put in these i'm id this is 2020 and just if there's any way you can think you know to sort of resist that well i mean it's just everything you can imagine thomas jeverson was asked oh god really was the virginia commonwealth it was in a letter they said what is the level to which tyranny would invent itself and he said my dear fellows it is the level my dear fellows there's no end

to the rapacious repine of the psychotic minds of these evil minds of these wicked brains that just seek power over reality and the overthrow reality and twisted around in forms that make them feel good they're vandals holy shit buddy vagabonds they're they're droogies they're dumb dude he's i think alex is listening just because he said dumb he's editorializing on that quote quite a bit and also that's a frederick douglas quote that he's oh no which he does all the time yeah we can't allow we can't allow black man's words to go unstolen so now you tried to co-op my catchphrase there i didn't co-opt your catchphrase and i i gotta be honest i think in this next clip i'm changing my catchphrase okay it's no longer i'm dan this is 2020 because i think alex

might have given me a better version okay we're now in the new world order in the ai tech cover in the robot genetic engineering clone world i mean we're in we're in 2020 baby and now that secret world they've been building out of the surface is now going to emerge it's all because the elite want life extension technologies and and they believe that they have to get rid of us to save the earth that's what the the transmission that seriously they get a spiritual transmission they have to kill everybody then they'll be given an advanced knowledge sure for the immortality it's it's the oldest trick in the book it's the oldest trick in the book the advanced knowledge for immortality it's the oldest trick in the book

kill everybody and then they become immortal it's the oldest trick in the come on look Jesus yep all right but is it newton was an alchemist dan it's the oldest trick in the book the oldest trick in the book is like easy scams like little flams the oldest trick in the book is some selling something called a miracle cure dan well there is that yeah also i think we're in 2020 baby that's a pretty good one maybe better maybe better we're in 2020 baby all right i like it i like it i won't say i won't say a word against that it's it's up in the air i'm not sure how i'm gonna go with it but i feel like alexis i like to let him guide me and to be honest me saying that over and over again was prompted by my belief that alex was going to

keep saying that's because he did at the beginning of the year no that's true he has not said it says which is evidence he listens i'm making fun of something that he did not do so i don't know all right it's 2020 baby we're in it yeah and demons got to kill you got in order to get immortality which is the oldest trick in the book all this trick in the but apparently it turns out there's a weird wrinkle to this because the demons don't need to just kill you or they you know the people who are working for the demons the look they could kill you no for sure great right but i mean it's boring going to get them all the way where they need to be doesn't get their dick there's another step they got to torture you first of course they're coming to kill you and your family

they must kill you in a blood sacrifice but torture you first slowly suck everything out of you and then take your soul to be lived forever of course they'll get nothing but hell so apparently there's a lot of rules about how this has to go down many rules gotta be a blood sacrifice gotta torture you they gotta take your soul there's gotta be some like actual process by which you take a soul like all that has to happen in order for this immortality to be achieved it seems like right but then you wind up in hell anyways wow so here's my biggest issue all right demons aren't real no oh that's easy okay obviously demon there's a little pedestrian i apologize my biggest issue is if these people aren't immortal then by definition that means that these people who have worked

for the globalists who are demons in the past have died so if you are working for the globalist now and you are aware that people who have previously worked for the demons were also promised and instead are dead yeah then you have to know that you are not going to get immortality so why work for the globalist see that's the problem with this conspiracy living more than a lifetime because you have all these examples of all the roth childs who have died they work for the globalists but then they died but you can't die if you work for the globalist because you want immortality so if you are now well i think i guess the way around it is that they believe that they're going to get this immortality from the demons but it's all a lie i would that's the

way you get around it i would like to say that that's an unreasonable response but knowing that we see so many people believe alex jones i i have to say that there would be enough people to believe that they would get immortality regardless of past realities and i think that given all the information that we have our access to i think it'd be very very easy to you know like talk to a demon and then the demon be like hey i got i got five on it you know i got i got you i got you covered and you could be like nah i don't believe you i don't think you're good for it do you i think it'd be pretty easy at this point let me hold five nah man sorry man not happening now can't do it you still holding five speaking about of people that you shouldn't

trust yes uh francis boil shows up here at the end of the episode because he has big breaking news right sir arthur francis boil does not really have big breaking news what is it he doesn't really have much but they they end up talking about the the alex wants to start off a conversation asking about the various strains of the corona virus sure and then francis boil like all of his information comes from that chapel hill study from 2015 yeah and he's so fucking out of line but we know there's something's going on with the virus what about how it now attacks the testicles i mean they're learning more and more and it's like there's hundreds of mutations now all of that you know i've read at least five or so right but if you go back and read that

originally u.n.a u.n.c uh uh uh uh wuhan bsl four article uh they have all sorts of things in there including uh hiv it's right in there just says yeah we used uh hiv too uh so uh and it's gain of function uh it's sars two that has been weaponized francis boil is straight up making this up about the 2015 study from u.n.c chapel hill the title of that study is quote a sars-like cluster of circulating bat corona viruses shows potential for human emergence you can easily find it on the website for the journal nature medicine if you'd like to look at it yourself and read up boil is claiming this that the study says that they admit they put hiv in the virus which is a complete lie the only time hiv comes up at all in the text is in this sense quote pseudo typing experiments

were similar to those used uh those using an hiv based pseudo virus this is in the section about the methodology of the study where they describe how they use pseudo typing to create a pseudo virus which is to say that they used an existing backbone of a virus they knew could affect humans and then combined it with a circulating corona virus to see if the viral material could infect humans if it was in a package that was known uh humans were able to take in the reference to hiv even has a footnote that boil could have followed if he was interested in understanding the study it goes to a 2014 study titled quote reversion in advanced ebola disease in non-human primates with z-map this is a study about if ebola could be reversed in monkeys with the use of z-map

a similar the pseudo typed combination of antibodies the 2015 chapel hill study in no way says they combined hiv into this corona virus that's a complete fabrication on the part of boil who should be stripped of his tenure this behavior like it really seriously reflects horribly on the university of illinois who still employs francis boil they do not yes has anybody sent a fucking email he's tenured man it's really hard to get rid of tenured i'm pretty sure if you do this shit it's not hard well we know from darryl homamodo that it's possible it is possible yeah these these so you're saying that if he was playing a pink guitar we'd be better off than if he's lying about corona virus situation now because i think that homamodo might have like

agitated a lot more locally against uh yeah that's probably like i think he might have caused more trouble for the university yeah than like look francis boil doing this is fucking embarrassing because he is an employee of the university yeah but it doesn't necessarily cause as much local tension sure as whatever darryl was up to i am calling for a an honorary degree from the university of illinois for information leading to the loss of francis boil's tenure i think that you're qualified to give out that i'm pretty sure yeah i didn't graduate from school myself but sure so also this virus is not the same as the current coronavirus the virus from that 2015 study that study involved a virus called s h c zero one four dash m a 15

and if the current virus was similar to that one it would be painfully obvious which is probably a good reason why no super villain would do this only imaginary evil doers dreamt up by childish weirdos whatever craft plan this stupid which is you know what's going on yeah it's sean connery in the avengers so francis boil um he seems to believe that the united states always knew that this was a bio attack of course they did and they get into that a little bit in this club it's just it's nuts in my opinion i i believe uh the cia the national security agency and us military intelligence knew right away uh that this was uh an offensive biological warfare agent that came out of that uh wuhan uh bsl four indeed tony fouchi knew it right away

all he had to do was call it up on his computer uh to find that uh u n c uh contract because uh he funded it i ate his organization funded this along with n i h and f d s so one of the guys responsible in the chain of course is running the response so you can cover it up properly well that's the point here alex that's over that's a very dumb poorly constructed poorly defended conspiracy that they're pitching but i mean what would you expect i i it's it's not new though too this is this isn't like this isn't fresh right right it's just that today hi there are reports that fouchi had to ramp up his security sure because of threats from weirdos like this yeah i mean to be fair francis boil has been calling him a nazi bio weapon

scientist on alex's show for months now i'm just i'm just saying we live in a world now where it's like look if fouchi came out and he was like look i want all my critics to beef up their security because i'm coming for you that makes more sense to me that we're living in professional wrestling world why not have fouchi call out francis boil directly beef up your security boil a boil uh how about you and i meet in the ring exactly let's have a celebrity boxing this is the fucking world we live in why not we have a an incredibly celebrated expert in epidemiology and we have francis fucking boil who shouldn't even have tenure anymore yeah yeah great you know is a weirdo so the the thing is that like i was really struggling but at this point in

the episode to figure out why francis boil is back on that is a good because there isn't new information he just keeps talking about the u n c chapel hill study and how it proves everything that it doesn't prove and i kind of realize that he's a prop for alex yeah biological weapons anti-terrorism act and he's on record as the author of that and he's again represents world leaders the hag the whole nine yards so you want an insider bad exposing the system you you've got it here not some foggy thing on a four-chan board this is what we bring you is the real deal here this is almost like he's bringing him out to be like this is what we got not like your qanad bullshit it's it really feels like he's like like a prop in this play that alex is putting on or he's

mad about still mad about qanad yeah how long it seems like he's an extension of alex's anger at qanad right how long is boil on for i don't know that long i because i could yeah because i could see this being like a five minute interview and just being like hey we've got the guy who wrote the thing guys q hasn't brought you nothing and then you don't have to worry about actually talking to him no they talk too long of course they for sure well oil talking is too long yeah they talk longer than like the like you you'd want it to just be like a little smash like a little yeah yeah amio yeah it's more than that but it feels like that because none of the information is really new and some of it's fucking embarrassing like how boil and alex clearly understand the

difference between correlation and causation you can't reveal that information when you're discussing the uh chinese military's assertion that may be the united states military when they came over for exercises introduced the virus here sure they understand the difference people at the NIH know they've committed these crimes they know they're facing life in prison that's that's why they don't want the public to know the big no no is that it's man made the chinese know it's man made they're saying the army did it so there's they got a problem don't they well uh you know i just for your viewers many of your viewers asked me about us army being over there and we've discussed this before uh alex correlation is not causation and so far i have

not seen a direct chain of causation there that's my city of 11 million or 12 million people so if i'm in new york city when somebody gets murdered it doesn't mean i murdered somebody i think that's correct interesting this is so interesting because you know these dudes are capable of this kind of thought if they want to so like why would i would counsel against it if i if i were one if i were one of their advisors i'd be like no no don't admit to fucking any be like rob do in a deposition pretend you have no idea what's going on so when there's this chinese assertion that the us army brought the virus over when they were just there for an exercise alex and francis understand that the fact that the army people were there doesn't prove that they started the outbreak they realize

that further proof is necessary because it's a claim that they're opposed to now in terms of obama selling of china the virus standard of proof is way way fucking lower it's weird how that works how these dum-dums are capable of critical thinking when they want to be and look here's a pretty good example of it like this is minutes later in their interview minutes later yeah them just being like nah correlation causation fuck it as you said years ago look out with bill gates and these mosquitoes they released them they admitted created zika now the mosquitoes are mutating and killing a bunch of people oh it messed up and kills people i mean it just it's so obvious it's a eugenics operation certainly that was those were a bio warfare mosquitoes

probably coming out of uh four colons a special us government lab at four colons to be fair there's more than a um correlation causation problem with what they're putting forth a little bit more but you see you see that they're capable of that kind of critical thought when it comes to like rebuffing arguments that they're opposed to but when it's trying to sell a weak fucking narrative that they're on board with it doesn't matter there's no need for evidence it's all bullshit yeah it is it is so much like a very obvious asymmetrical warfare game being played against people who care about reality and they just don't and so they get to they get to win yeah because we're on their battlefield not ours and we just pretend that we're not well i think that most people aren't on

their battlefield we are a little bit because we have chosen to dwell in this ugly sure i just i just mean in the far larger outreach of right wing propaganda is that it is never fully kind of comprehended by so many people that it is purely asymmetrical you are not like when cnn has somebody on parroting trump talking points or climate denialism or whatever it is you are not on equal footing doesn't matter if you're on cnn it doesn't matter if you're on fox news yeah they are going to say anything and it doesn't matter yeah it doesn't matter and as you try and pretend that fact checking is important they are going to rape i would reach the world that's just how it is but but you know that that is i said yeah that being said i think that we can all agree

that the evidence is overwhelming that china bought a bio weapon from barack obama overwhelming so alex gets into that here a little bit after francis is left sure and this is stupid well if the evidence is overwhelming over well transfer to china by the deep state bow i'm overwhelmed later release it this is to take down of the nationalist movement our economy the virus does kill people it does re-infect if they're not telling you the answer and that's boosting your immunity they'll tell you on the news if item c isn't even needed if i say an oxygenism if you don't have these things come cold kill your ass and my cat has been really right about the fact that sink americans are amongst the most unhealthy people on the

planet zinc the good news is the democrats and deep states attempt to suppress these facts especially with the approved drug for seventy something years hydroxychloroquine that for hundreds of years was given to british troops before that under another name pushed the zinc into the cells in this massively effective they do not want that out but now the fd had to approve it and it's all coming out and being admitted and creating hope this still feels like a sales pitch for the zinc yeah hmm i felt the zinc sales pitch yeah it has the same tenor in the same delivery that alex usually uses uh but it's just like it's like he's learning yeah the boundaries yeah i can't actually sell my product but i can do everything short of mention my product right i can and i

don't know if he can it's inter it'll be interesting to see if anyone cares i think what what fascinates me about this is one of the great joys we had early on in the podcast is you would play for me these things that i didn't know we're going to be ad pivots yeah and now what i'm enjoying is not knowing that they're not going to be ad pivots but when i mean like this yeah this is the this is the ad pivot that two years ago i'd have been like oh shit he turned into an ad pivot and now he's not doing it he's edging me this is infuriated yeah a little bit yeah alex has gotten into edge play yeah so i have one last clip here from your april fools episode yes which i mean i wish this was all a joke but it's not so we this last clip alex has earlier in the show said

we're at war with china sure and it turns out we're also at war with saudi arabia why wouldn't i didn't know about prop warrants of iran sneak attack on us also are on of course i rock attacks going on in saudi arabia we're in the war with saudi arabia now more and more uh trump has asked them to cut production they wouldn't so trump's gonna ramp up production are all this ally in the middle world reserve just these are the times big war start i'm telling you folks when i say get storeable food it's for the possibility of them canceling the election civil unrest what are the globals gonna launch next not just as virus well we have storeable food again did that catch you off guard that one caught me off guard again you son of a bitch this is the problem with edge play

you never know what it's going to come almost exactly after you're talking about not being being able to see the ad if it's coming there's what he we already and then he's not going to imagine he snuck it in god damn it so anyway we come to the end of this april fools day episode and whatever the fuck man i mean there's just a lot of the stupid uh coronavirus rationalizations just it's all incredibly uh nonsensical rewriting of trump's shit oh yeah but then the fucking q and on stuff is really where it's at man this is this is what i'm excited about i don't know like here's here's why doing the show sucks i got really excited like a month ago when alex for no reason decided he was going to start getting back into seth rich yeah that was

one day that has not come back since then alex decided fuck it we're getting back into seth rich i'm not afraid and then i'm not going to get back into seth rich i'm worried that this is going to be the same thing i'm worried that he's going to be like i'm calling out the people i know i know who you are who started q and on of course i'm worried about that they i want it to be like the next chapter because i definitely don't want to just talk about coronavirus all the time right right there's only so many lies he can really make about it yeah that are interesting to talk about yeah i also don't want to talk about all the same sort of archaic conspiracies that we talked about in past episodes like i don't want to just keep retreading old territory

starting a feud with a ghost is fucking awesome yeah i like that that is the kind of thing i want to see from alex but this is our this is the religious freedom angle on the pills all over again where it's like that's the fun thing to do right and he's going to fail you dan well he is going to fail you like he's failed you for every day for three years two things one i made clear in that discussion that i will never give up hope that the next time will be the right time because otherwise this podcast doesn't work that's fair but second he ends this episode still like without negating or ruining the whole idea that he's going to fight q and okay okay good the other episode like that one he blew it five minutes he deflated too soon yes yeah this still

seems like a live question okay when the show ends okay so hopefully fingers crossed we got a chance turns into a fucking fight and it gets so stupid alex yelling at non-existent robot twitter accounts it turns into a thing where they start fucking trolling him really oh god you can you imagine the potential of this i now i just want him to do a ghost fighting show i just want him to fight ghosts you know like do i get i understand how you bust ghosts i don't understand how you fight them see that's what alex is here for busting ghosts is easy it makes you feel any any old fool can bust ghosts bill murray can bust ghosts right but they didn't fight ghosts you know they didn't get into the ring with ghosts they didn't really see what they were made sure going up against

ghosts in a fair fight i would like to see alex if he could gut stop a ghost alex could do it we'll see well so i guess we'll find out what happens with this man next friday's episode will cover his wednesday episode and it's going to be a massive disappointment dad it just is this is like christmas for me i know i know i'm i want to speed up time i'm excited to the problem is i am excited even though i know it's going to be a disappointment i mostly excited because it's going to be a disappointment i love the tree rex of this guy now it'd be really great if he pulled a computer chip out of a homeless man's arm next wednesday god if he does that would be the shit that's the pristine that's the shit right yeah yeah no if he pulls

that one out of his ass he wins i will retire i promise yeah i will retire but i'll definitely give it up to my smally pirate friend alex jones yeah so we'll be back on monday but when we'll see what happens with his show god damn it when you wish it's okay it's okay you're looking out the window like jimmy crick it's always yeah but until then we have a website we do have a website it's knowledge fight dot com we're also on twitter we are on twitter sat knowledge underscore fight and i go to bet jordan we're also on facebook we are a facebook if you like down the show please go to i choose to leave a review rate you so donate to the patreon and do the whole thing we love you yep absolutely we will be back but until then i'm neo i'm leo i'm dzx clark i'm a guy who went to a

castle and felt really cool listening to depeche mode and i fought someone with red eyes but i wasn't scared andy in chansas you're on the air thanks for holding so alex i'm a first-time color i'm a huge fan i love your work i love you