Knowledge Fight - #417: April 5, 2020

Episode Date: April 8, 2020

Today, Dan and Jordan discuss Sunday's episode of Alex Jones' show because he couldn't make it in to work on Monday.  In this installment, Dan finds a new rival based on vocal patterns and Mike Adams... finds a new fake miracle drug.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys knowledge fight. Dan and George knowledge fight. Need money. Andy and Kansas. Andy and Kansas. Stop it. Andy and Kansas. Andy and Kansas. Andy and Kansas. It's time to pray. Andy and Kansas you're on the earth thanks for holding us. Hello Alex I'm a citizen and I'm a huge fan and love your work. Knowledge fight. Knowledge fight. I love you. Hey everybody. Welcome back to knowledge fight. I'm Dan. I'm George. A couple dudes like to sit around technology beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Oh indeed we are Dan Jordan Jordan. What's your bright spot. You go first. I go first. I have a rant. Oh I assume this has nothing to do with WrestleMania. So I will say that my
Starting point is 00:01:19 bright spot is we were on this week's episode of opening arguments. Yeah it was great. It was a ton of fun. Yeah. Big thanks to Andrew and Thomas over there. Appreciate them having us on a lot less legal conversation than I expected for a for a legal podcast. But you know there's not a whole not a ton of legal questions I have about Alex right because a lot of it is just sort of blankedly like yeah you can get away with saying a ton of shit. Yeah it seems like my main conclusion from being on a law podcast was everything Alex does should be against the law and yet somehow it's not. Yeah. So there's no point in talking about it. I guess. Yeah but super fun and thanks to them. Absolutely. Check that out if you have not heard it. My bright spot is night two of
Starting point is 00:02:02 WrestleMania from Sunday. I was shocked. I'm shocked. I am shocked. Cheers and cheers. Let's do a whole segment. Cheers. Yes to the Randy Orton and edge last man standing match. Okay they built up a great feud between the two of them. It was really engaging as a storyline but that match went on 40 minutes. It went at 40 minutes. It was too long 40 minutes. I got very bored. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. Last man standing matches are very difficult because what you have to do is you have to beat up the other person to the point where they can't stand up within 10 seconds. Right. Right. And so there's always the tension of like getting to eight seconds and struggling to get to your feet. Of course. Just draws. It's such a fucking stretch. Classic Mike Tyson punch out rules. It's very
Starting point is 00:02:46 frustrating. But all of that was banished from my mind after the John Cena and Bray Wyatt Firefly Funhouse match. I have heard which was the best. We were talking after the show one night and you were like what I'm looking. I'm he's the fiend has a habit of pulling out people's old past characters bringing them to the for and then I read the next day about Dr Thug anomics and I'm like okay well Dan knows what's up. He seems to have an ability over time and space to an extent somewhat unspoken of I understand sort of and he also has a character Bray Wyatt is possessed by this demon called the fiend that has super powers of some sort. Actually this is the thing that's normal to say and he's able to manipulate people's like their psychology or something and show them
Starting point is 00:03:36 something of themselves that maybe they didn't want to accept and the ghost of Christmas past. It's just it was masterful the short film that they put together because it wasn't a match like it wasn't John Cena fighting Bray Wyatt as the fiend right. What it was was basically a short film where the audience was taken inside the mind of John Cena. John Cena the most like the biggest WWE wrestling superstar from like the last 15 years. Okay. The hero of the children the like the biggest the top guy in the business right right 16 time world champion sure and he had taken inside his mind and thoroughly deconstructed to the point where he accepts. He's the bad guy. It was remarkable. So what did Marcel do show up direct this is as well as what is going on. It
Starting point is 00:04:31 was astounding the first of all the like sort of the complexity and the the story that it told was something I did not imagine the WWE is capable of that sounds right and then to the fact that John Cena would allow that like given the how big of a person he is and how much he doesn't need to do something like this right right like he's a movie star. He's a movie. He doesn't need to allow Bray Wyatt to put him into a psychological prison. He construct his ego. It's awesome. No he's auditioning for Shutter Island to that's the one that's course. As he's going to film next thing. That's God. It was good like I really. I had very scared expectations about it. I'm an old time Bray Wyatt fan. Of course. I mean as much as I am a wrestling fan. That's my kind of thing.
Starting point is 00:05:25 Yeah. Bray Wyatt's original character was a swamp Hillbilly cult leader. I kind of liked Bray Wyatt. To be honest. Yeah. Talking these rambling weird riddles nonsense. Absolute nonsense. So impenetrable. I always want something like really to work out and then nothing ever does his storylines always kind of fizzle a little bit. But and so I had like a real feeling that like this was going to be another one of those things. Yeah. They're going because they tried to do some Bray Wyatt like spooky house matches in the past. I just really thought they were going to do that again and instead what they got was a scathing portrait of like first of all John Cena's character trajectory through his career. Sure that the WWE itself to an extent. The Vince
Starting point is 00:06:10 McMahon. Okay. Like a deeply emotional resonance because throughout it the character of Bray Wyatt is sort of guiding John Cena through these. Of course. Realizations that he's the bad guy. He gives him chances to recognize like this thing about himself and because of John's ego he can't recognize it. Of course leads to the ultimate conclusion of John being destroyed. Like it's great. David Lynch is working for the WWE for one night. Yeah. All right. I love it. I'll haul and drive me. I will claim that I'm not like a huge wrestling fan and I stand by that. I don't think that I am in the same way that most people like wrestling. Sure. But I think it has a remarkable potential as a storytelling medium. Both in ring matches and
Starting point is 00:06:59 stuff like this. The characters that they're able to build. Sure. Sure. Sure. Because you suspend disbelief to the point where it's like yeah this guy. He's got a demon in him. And this goofy neon shirt wearing a fake soldier slash battle rapper guy. Yeah. It's what do you guys think? Dick Whitman is more believable. Fuck off. I am. I am just. I like I like the medium for the things like that that it is capable of. Yeah. And I was very proud of them and it's very big bright spot for me in these this week. Oh that's great. Loved it. I'm glad. I watched it a second time. Really. And I almost never rewatched that in wrestling. Yeah. I had to go back and like that. That was and I watched it this like a second time the next day because I
Starting point is 00:07:44 walked away from it feeling like that was spectacular. I second guessed myself and I watched it back. I was like now that was as good as I thought it was fantastic. I don't know. And to be clear. I don't want them to do a lot more of it. No. Absolutely. They would probably fuck it up. Yeah. No. They knocked it out of the ballpark. Yes. Yeah. Compared to the undertaker match in your feelings on that I would that might not have been as bad as I thought it was but it was corny as hell. Yeah. This was corny in some ways but with a lot. What I perceived to be a lot more depth to it. Yeah. Okay. I don't know. It may it's the difference between do you want like a goofy 80s thriller action movie or horror movie or
Starting point is 00:08:22 do you want some like tense psychological thriller. Right. That also gets a little corn ball every now and again. That's kind of the difference and that's just more my taste. You can't go wrong with Dickens unless you're talking about Oliver Twist in which case. Yeah, you can. So you can get some weird like Jungian nonsense going on in your wrestling. It's great. So before we get into today's episode where we're going over April 5th 2020 baby. Oh boy. We are going to take a little moment here to say thank you to some folks who signed up for the show. So first Galak fire G. A. L. A. K. F. Y. R. R. Thank you so much. You're now a policy walk. I'm a policy walk. Thank you Galak fire. Thanks so much. Next emperor checks
Starting point is 00:09:02 the flatulent. Thank you so much. You are now a policy walk. I'm a policy walk. I you Emperor checks the flatulents next Sarah FM. Thank you so much. You're now a policy walk. I'm a policy walk. Thank you Sarah FM. Probably married to Jack next Xavier. Thank you so much. You're an hour policy walk. I'm a policy walk. Next Luke. Thank you so much. You're now a policy walk. I'm a policy walk. Next Alex Jones Erotic fan fiction Society. Thank you so much. You're now a policy walk. I'm a policy walk. Thank you very much. Alex Jones erotic fan fiction Society. And then finally like I say thank you to a couple people who donated on elevated level. We appreciate that very much. So first of all
Starting point is 00:09:38 Chris. Thank you so much. You are now a technocrat and Charles. Thank you so much. You are now a technocrat. I'm a policyank crikey mate. That's fantastic. Have yourself a brew. How's your 401k doing, bro? We got to go full tilt buggy on this Watson. Alright, let's just get down to business. We ain't making that money off that heroin. Why you pimp so good. My neck is freakishly large. I declare info war on you. Thank you so much, Chris. And thank you so much, Charles. Thank you very much. Does that mean Charles is an honorary member of the conspiracy of Chris's? No, no, that's only for Chris's. That's only very specific. All right. So if you're out there listening and thinking, Hey, I enjoy
Starting point is 00:10:13 the show. I'd like to support these gents do you can do that by going to our website knowledge fights.com clicking the button says support the show. We'd appreciate it. Or you could find a local charity in your area to help out with folks who need some help. Yes, we would like both. So both Jordan one or the other. All right. I'm just so Jordan today. Like I said, we're going over the April 5th episode of Alex's show. Yeah, here's the thing like I wanted to do wacky Wednesday thing, but Kerry Cassidy over a project Camelot swear. Kerry has not been bringing it. Yeah. And so I couldn't find anything there. I just didn't. I wasn't finding a lot of inspiration in some of the places that we might look for
Starting point is 00:10:50 a wacky Wednesday episode and things got kind of kind of weird with Alex to because he put out a Saturday episode of his show that was just long and boring and awful. So I wasted a lot of time listening to that hot guy Friday's episode was no good and then Monday he was out of a studio. He wasn't in. He wasn't in studio on the sixth because he was in family court. Oh shit. He was having to deal with some motions that his ex-wife had filed right because of his DUI entirely reasonable motions right. So I filed yeah. So he was out. He was out of studio. So that leaves us really only with April 5th the Sunday show and so I was like well we should we should check in on this. So I listened to it and I actually I actually
Starting point is 00:11:31 think this is a pretty important thing to cover because thing thing. There's some really stupid fun things here. But also there is a development of some narrative that I think will probably be a problem in the future. Cool. So we start off with Alex in a pretty pretty doomy kind of feel. That's fair. We are live ladies and gentlemen on this April 5th Sunday transmission with 211 days out. More and more of the election will be canceled because the Psi Ops of Psi Ops has been launched. It's now official. The United Nations has released guidelines written by Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation that no one will be allowed to leave their homes or go back to work under the new worldwide martial law until you've
Starting point is 00:12:19 been forcibly inoculated. OK. All right. So that I did not find any evidence of any of that stuff but the headspace Alex is that should tell you a little something. So on some recent episodes we've seen a trend sort of coming into into existence that is whereas Alex was comparing the coronavirus to the flu in the past. He started to really get more interested in talking about it as cold. Sure. And I think part of that is because he's maybe someone told him that coronavirus is in the family of coronavirus can cause the common cold. And I think that he's like you know what people are way less afraid of cold than they are of flu. Yeah. So let's go ahead and just run with that. Let's really
Starting point is 00:13:04 downplay it and try and get as many people hurt as we can. Yeah. So now that is evolving and he's starting to suggest that people who are testing positive for coronavirus COVID-19 they actually are false positives. Oh God. Because they have the cold. While we get into all this I'm not joking around. Coronavirus. UK says 3.5 million antibody tests coming in days and then you learn you've had the common cold in your life. Well we've all had it. So see everyone they're testing and I've got medical doctors coming on the show about this. Everyone they're testing who dies medical doctors or lung lung problems or other diseases or they're old. They have a heart attack. They're telling them you died of COVID-19 to create more
Starting point is 00:13:52 hysteria. So I understand Alex's desperation to come up with a conspiracy here but what he's suggesting does not make sense. Partially because it's just scientifically dumb but more importantly because he seems to be ignoring a very relevant statistic. It's probably safe to say that literally everyone on the planet has gotten the cold. Most people catch colds at least once a year sometimes a couple of times in a year. If it were the case that the coronavirus tests were just creating false positives for people who had had the cold you would expect that you wouldn't see so many of them come back negative. How does Alex explain that there have been almost two million tests done in the US and only a little over three
Starting point is 00:14:30 hundred seventy thousand of them have been positive. If it were really just catching the common cold that number would be much higher in order for Alex to credibly even suggest this conspiracy. I'm going to need for him to deal with that gigantic problem in the theory which he won't do because you're just pulling things out of his ass. I doubt it. Yeah. It's just false positives from the cold man. This is also one of the like situations where there's a deserved media blackout over over like you can't show anything that's going on. But people are being intubated. The people are coughing up blood. They are. They are. This is how people are dying. Their lungs are fucking exploding. That is not the goddamn common cold.
Starting point is 00:15:12 No. By no stretch. And if there was some if there was a more general knowledge of like this is how people are dying. It would be real hard to sell the common cold narrative. Yeah. It should be hard to sell it anyways. Yeah. I would assume so. But it's it's easy for Alex because you know he just says words. That is that does make it easier. Yeah. So he has now based this. He's established this narrative that there's a lot of false positives just people who have the cold and he gets into predicting a future where anybody who dies they'll say it's Corona virus. And also in the future they're going to say anybody that's ever had the common cold. Oh you're a COVID-19 too. But then they're going to say
Starting point is 00:15:52 well to make sure they're already doing this. We got a vaccine. They're making you beg for it first. Bill Mullin again. It's already patented a few years ago. They've already got it ready. Look it up. They're going to roll it out and say you've got to have this shot and you've got to have the antibodies or you can't work or leave your house. And it's all being announced. So one thing that's really fun about this narrative this thing of the vaccine already existing is that it started when Alex began covering the internet conspiracy about the Peer Bright Institute, which held a patent for the vaccine for chickens, which was completely misrepresented you know, just because it involved a Corona virus that affects chickens vaccine, but it's a
Starting point is 00:16:33 Corona virus, but it's for chickens. Hey, don't worry about it. This is fun because that conspiracy before Alex picked up on it. It all traces directly back to Jordan Sather, who's a big QAnon guy. Alex is in the middle of this supposed war against QAnon, but he can't even recognize or accept that a bunch of his information and narratives come directly from the very people he's attacking as idiots. So I was watching Alex's show from Saturday, like I mentioned, and he had Francis Boyle on the show where they discussed this Gates patent situation. In that segment, they address the fact that the Peer Bright patent is for chickens, but then they claim that there are other patents. Oh, okay. Well, that helps, which Alex then flashes up on screen.
Starting point is 00:17:12 Sure. You can Google them. I'll give you the patent numbers. Okay. One of them is US patent one zero one three zero seven zero one B two. This is for the Peer Bright Institute, and it relates to the Corona virus. Alex just shows the first page on screen, which is good because it says that Corona virus Peer Bright Institute trick, but if he scrolled to page four, he would see a graph there. That's about the incidence of snicking, which is a thing that chickens do. The second graph is for wheezing, which I guess humans do too. However, the y axis of that graph is quote percentage of birds affected. This is just the chicken vaccine again. Okay, so look. Alright, you're telling me that no people snick. I think people snick all the time. That's just a thing
Starting point is 00:17:55 that normal people do as I understand it's a beak related issue. Well, who doesn't have a giant beak? This guy who has two thumbs and no beak this guy. So the other one that one's a bust. That's no good. Is that one a bust? Yes. Okay. The only other patent Alex shows on air is a filing from the European Patent Office number one five seven five zero zero nine three dot five, which again is just the Peer Bright's chicken vaccine. Alex says nothing, but I will grant that he has a whole lot of nothing. Yeah, that is true. He has tripled his nothing. Yes. Yes, and all of it traces back to a QAnon promoter that he's ripping off. It is that he's mad at and hates. It is. It is. It is hard to focus on the sticks here, which is that he is killing people. It is. It is very difficult
Starting point is 00:18:46 because this is so awful. Yeah. So also like with this, like he's he's this is all just derived from Jordan Sather stuff who's a huge QAnon guy and as we're putting out this episode here on Wednesday, like this is the day today is the day that Alex is supposed to unmask QAnon. Yeah. Yeah. Did he do it? Well, I don't know. It happens. We're recording this on Tuesday. Right. Right. So I don't know what Alex is going to bring to the table on Wednesday. Probably in studio surgery cutting that microchip out. That's my guess. I'm hoping. Yeah. So Alex gets down to talking about how the gates folks because they already have this vaccine. Sure. Well, sure. Yeah. But they're also doing this tattoo thing, the tattoo that'll give you your virus records. Right. Right. Implantable
Starting point is 00:19:31 chip stuff. And apparently the source on this, it goes back a ways. Alex has known about this for a long time. I'm sure. And David Knight broke a month ago. COVID-19 tracking bracelets and a bill of monegates MIT plan to put a digital tattoo that takes five minutes for a needle to stitch nanotech chips into you that can't be seen with the naked eye but under a black light that have your medical records on them that they scan on. You can't cut it out because it's now in your flesh a digital DNA mark. I remember I knew a preacher in Austin 25 years ago who was putting on Patriot events. I went to dinner with Christian identity. Yeah. And he said, you know, you gave that speech at the church event about the micro chip. He goes, listen, God gave me a vision. It's
Starting point is 00:20:22 going to be a DNA tattoo on the left arm. And I was like, okay, but you know, back then I was a Christian, but I was like, I look back on the stuff that guy, you were it all came true. I'll find where that fella is. He like moves to another state. Regardless, it's here, ladies and gentlemen. That guy is hanging out with your that friend of yours in high school's girlfriend. Yeah, exactly. Another state that weird Christian identity preacher that Alex believes had visions. Hey, he's not seeing up in heaven now, Dan. Also this thing that Alex is saying that David and I broke. He didn't break anything. He broke it reporting on another article in some some publication about this research that was being done. Right. They can't they don't have the technology to do
Starting point is 00:21:10 these tattoos yet. Technology for Alex to break a story. No, certainly not. David and I doesn't have that brain tech. So Alex gets into just lying about primary sources about stuff. He's he starts kind of slow. It picks up at the end of this. This is so irresponsible, but it starts off a little bit slow before he died in 62. He wrote the book. Raven the world revisited talk about all this dying and actually went to Berkeley and gave a speech. I've got thousands of articles to cover here, folks, literally. But I'm just going back to this because this is everything I remember. He said my book published in 32 is not science fiction. Didn't say that. It is a futurist projection of the world we want to build by 2020. Didn't say that. That sounds
Starting point is 00:21:54 like something a crazy person would say. And his contemporaries talked about diet, injections, and injunctions controlling you and making you dumb and stupid. So all these vaccines are Trojan horse piggybacked with steroids and with systems at lower IQ. So none of that is accurate from the Brave New World revisited. Like I said, as I say, whenever this comes up, I highly recommend people go listen to that. He's very charming as a speaker. He's great. And you can get a little bit more context of what Alex Huxley was actually saying in that speech. It was mostly about the comparison between himself and Orwell, the 1984 system versus the Brave New World system, which would be the more likely version that this could rise up in. That's kind of more what he was getting at.
Starting point is 00:22:47 He wasn't saying this is our plan as we've been doing. Ha ha, suck it. Absolutely not. But the other part there, he's contemporary. He's talking about Bertrand Russell, right? And the diets, injections and injunctions line is something that Alex just takes out of context. We talked about this a bunch. Bertrand Russell was talking about what would have happened if the Nazis had won World War Two and had become a scientifically run system, right? And they are saying that were that to be the case had the Nazis won, which is a bad thing. He didn't want to happen. He didn't like that and they became a scientifically run system. Diet's injections and injunctions would control the population. This is not them saying, Ha ha, this is what we're doing. Alex can read
Starting point is 00:23:29 just anything about like hypothetical situations or analyses of things and like Ha ha, this is what everyone's doing, right? And it's very it's very weird. I mean, it's it's selective, obviously. Yeah, you know, he doesn't. He doesn't do this with other things that don't work against his narrative. Yeah. Also, Bertrand Russell was wrong anyways, because as we all know, the Nazis won World War Two in 2016. That's pretty much how it went down, right? World War Two ended, but then there was a reemergence. Yeah, the Nazis. The Nazis had a great comeback. It was bottom of the ninth about to get a woman president, and then they swung for the fences. So speaking of pretty shocking comebacks, yeah
Starting point is 00:24:15 that's they done. Alex has been really against the globalists and their extermination plan, but on our last episode, we heard him sort of coming around, right? Well, it's not a bad idea. It's just they're the ones doing it. Yeah, it seems like that wasn't a one off. Yeah, it seems like Alex is really starting to feel like maybe people should be exterminated. I'll fucking know straight up. You don't think bill among the gates run all these TV shows attacking me by name that they finance because I'm just up here saying stuff in truth. Now, I'll tell you, the public is pretty dumb down is pretty lazy and doesn't care if they're doing this show. Gates is an argument that you deserve to die. Maybe Bill Gates is right.
Starting point is 00:24:52 I'm not gonna not because I'm God fearing person, but I get it. Okay, I would say that if you're a God fearing person, I don't know why Alex thinks that like extermination of the population is warranted because people are lazy and dumb. Maybe they should be. That's not a good reason to exterminate a population. Come on. We got Sodom and Gomorrah. We got all those folks that God killed so Noah could be fine and you know God exterminated people all the time. A God fearing man is probably pro extermination. Let's be honest. It seems like a misunderstanding of some of the finer points. Maybe at least as I understand God's message through Christianity, you know people think that the New Testament is a book you should read and I just disagree entirely.
Starting point is 00:25:43 I think that it is ludicrous and also very fun slash scary that Alex is now coming around to this like fuck it. The global should exterminate everybody because what that what that entails or what that pretends is like him being way more fine with mass death. Yeah should like I don't know Trump do something fucked up. Absolutely. As long as it's couched in the sort of framing yeah fighting the globalists or whatever it really is. Why should I why should I sit here and protect the sheep? Why should I? I'm not going to do it. Let the globalist kill them all. I don't give a shit. Fuck you. Fuck you. I can't buy an X three. Fuck it. I don't give a shit. I can't say that there aren't dark moments that I've had looking at Biden's poll numbers going like
Starting point is 00:26:34 you know what fuck it. I got nothing for you. You guys want to do it. You do it. I'm not saying nothing but that's not a way to live your life. There's a difference between the sort of moments of despair you might have of like we are we are not going to make progress. Yeah. Those are those are tough moments of reflection much like me before WrestleMania night two. And then the darkness comes right before the dawn. Well maybe not but it there's a difference between that and being like for long times I have prophesied that my enemies would exterminate everyone and I've dedicated my life to fighting against that but I have fucking maybe the right. There is a difference. There is a difference. That's an invalidation of Alex's pretend like everything.
Starting point is 00:27:23 Fuck it. Maybe Bill Gates is right. You all should fucking die. I don't care. That's Obama voting for Trump and if it might if Bernie is the nominee we'll see what happens. Well so we have in this next clip Alex has had famous people call him sure and they're like hey man you're right Ted Nugent's wife probably yeah I got a couple calls today by super famous people and I'm bragging I'm saying like a brag super famous people I mean just you name it rock stars movie stars huge national talk show host knowing well I thought you were wrong but you really are right and I'm like okay great we'll do something about it oh I'm afraid like a brag so it means nothing to me until those people do something and I told them I said to one of them I said I don't really want to
Starting point is 00:28:14 talk to you right okay all right or until you come out and do something all right you starfucker trying to hold on to what you got is gonna lose everything America had everything because we would fight and we weren't pushed around you look at America now on average and we're soft and we're lazy and we're stupid and we're evil and if you'll put up with 62 million of boarded babies okay anything so it's sort of even further like saying we deserve to die which isn't good yeah I don't know these rich famous super mega stars are but I do love the idea I do love the idea of like I don't even want to fucking talk to you unless you'll come on my show great thanks for telling me I'm right but if I can't get any PR out of this I don't give a shit this is what we find out it's
Starting point is 00:29:06 actually Christopher Walken finally calling back after all those Alex listen he's just calling back he doesn't want to tell Alex he's right but he has another chicken recipe that he wants to share I've been listening to the bells a little bit more recently and I gotta say you're right I don't even want to talk to you who do you think Alex is like what's his version of like really famous like mega star I don't know maybe some country musician I halfway think Clint Eastwood might have called like Willie Nelson's drummer yeah I don't I don't know who this I don't know who these people are and I guess we probably never will because Alex Springsteen 's driver Conan's former band leader so Alex has a guest on the show and it's a guy who gave a
Starting point is 00:29:49 speech at CPAC at the CPAC event of course he sucks yeah he is I will say his speech at CPAC was pretty boring and it was just some bad comedy yeah and I had a real tough time with it based on this interview he's rising the ranks in terms of like people I really dislike that's not good he has one of the most annoying speech delivery like just the way he speaks yeah very very annoying okay very condescending course why not put them all together also why not throw in real dumb we're gonna Patrick Halley writes for epic times it was amazing that's the best newspaper in the world yeah they're just incredible well check it out also another great site the paper heads up and that is nationalfile.com and the great work they're doing and he's done a big story breaking
Starting point is 00:30:40 down the fact that Fauci and others that you see up there on that stage every night have big money ties to Bill Gates Fauci got a hundred million dollars nope in just one grant from Bill Gates don't explain something Bill Gates is running the show nope that's a very inaccurate reading yeah I would say philanthropy so it's so weird how whenever these people are giving Patrick Halley's credits I think it's Halley H-A-W-L-E-Y yeah that's probably not sure I'm very sensitive to this because Halley is a slur in Hawaii where I grew up so I'm not entirely sure yeah I see what you're saying anyway Patrick Halley uh Halley I don't know fuck I'll say Halley whatever they like whenever they give his credits they seem to forget that he started big league politics
Starting point is 00:31:22 which was just a shitty right wing conspiracy blog that he eventually sold to a right wing political consultant and it continues to exist as a propaganda outlet in some cases for the very politicians who are paying those consultants who own the website hey that is really helpful and weird now that never comes up almost like even they know it makes them look super bad and would undercut his imagined credibility sure sure people think that vertical integration is a bad idea but I say when it comes to politics you got to get it in sure the the epoch times is not one of the best newspapers out there it's a rabidly conspiratorial publication that Alex just likes because it's ferociously pro-trump and super anti-China it's run by the Falun Gong religious
Starting point is 00:32:03 movement and according to reporting from NBC news quote former practitioners of Falun Gong told NBC news that believers think the world is headed towards a judgment day when those labeled communists will be sent to a kind of hell and those sympathetic to the spiritual community will be spared Trump is viewed as a key ally in the anti-communist fight former epoch times employees said you can kind of see how Alex would really be into that kind of editorial position yeah yeah it's run by the Falun Gong okay so on october anything than the GOP that isn't a death cult so on october 17 2009 the founder of the Falun Gong movement spoke to the staff of the epoch times and the message that was sent was a little messed up
Starting point is 00:32:50 it's very clear that the newspaper is an extension of an apocalyptic religious belief that looks forward to an ultimate clash with communism particularly in the form of china from the speech quote the additions of the epoch times and other languages are crucial as well for dapha disciples are the sole hope for salvation for the world's people whatever corner of the earth they may inhabit it wouldn't work if i lee hong zi who serves as the master to the disciples of dapha took on this work as well it's something that you must do my involvement will happen later after the fa rectifies the human world before the time of the fa rectifying the human world you must save more people and allow more of the world's people to remain in the process of clarifying
Starting point is 00:33:31 the truth validating the fa and saving sentient beings you are enabling people to survive the great catastrophe and the only this portion of the human race will be worthy of seeing during the stage of fa's rectification of the human world the true picture of the cosmos and all that has occurred since the world's creation only after that will i commence fa rectification of the human world many things need to be done if this plane of existence is to be kept for human affairs are really not so simple saving sentient beings is something that has to be done by you and during this period you are given this path so that you may establish mighty virtue with your righteous thoughts and actions head towards consummation all right let's go write some blogs most of that
Starting point is 00:34:17 speech is about how you need to get this in line like a normal media outlets right all right everybody huddle up you do all the work and then after it's over i will definitely help out and that is nothing at all like a cult leader how dare you and it's also nothing at all like hey if i were like really directing everything here people would see what's up yeah so i'll come in later yeah you guys got to do this because it doesn't really look like i'm exerting my will through this publication i don't like that it's not the ideal the situation between fallen gong and the state of china is far too complicated for me to unpack here but please don't take anything that i'm saying as to be minimizing of the repression that china has engaged in regarding regarding religious
Starting point is 00:35:04 minorities oh yeah absolutely i'm not minimizing that at all 100 you know just because fallen gong runs this paper that is bad as fuck doesn't mean that it's within a reasonable response to incarcerate right and sometimes everybody's bad in a story yeah yeah so anyway the point here is that this is not a good news source it's an anti-communist propaganda depot run in the service of a religious mission that believes it's heading towards an apocalyptic standoff against demonic communists oh and also info wars basically yeah you know there's a lot of overlap now where they differ jordan is that the epoch times has definitely promoted the q and on okay there we go all right that's the only one okay so if alex thinks that they're the best news outlet he has
Starting point is 00:35:51 some questions he needs to ask himself about how he's at war with q and on it's almost like nothing matters dan it's almost like there's really no difference or meaning to just about anything that alex says yeah so anyway patrick holly also writes for them of course he's great yeah he's a hero so alex believes that bill gates is out to get him because of course he is and believe me i know who's financed in the wall suits i know who's after us my god again bill gates if you don't know like the good doctor and all these shows are paid for by him where they attack me they say it's meant to attack me he finances documentaries where they name me uh and he's behind it all because he knows i'm on his ass not behind us buddy well i mean come on dude you said everybody's dumb so they
Starting point is 00:36:36 don't know about your eugenics so they deserve it survival the fittest and your social Darwinism well then don't we have a right to warn them so again ladies and gentlemen look at the look on bill gates his face in this photo we can pull it up from actual fall knocks that'd be great oh look at his face look at that look on his face i want more than face looks yeah that is more i need more than face looks yeah or demonstrate in some way that bill gates is behind lawsuits against you do is bill gates did he buy you sake yes like what absolutely i miss soros i miss soros soros is still in the mix somewhere he's still in the mix somewhere but where i'm not hearing about soros soros works with gates too much gates soros and gates too much gates gates sucks too i i like that
Starting point is 00:37:22 i like soros being the bad guy because he's actually seems to be a fairly good guy whereas gates kind of sucks soros is more relevant to the like antifa narratives that alex has oh that's true so because of the contract sure the fake contracts that alex found unfortunately totally real contract so because of that i think that you know certainly antifa isn't getting in the mix while there's a quarantine going on right right because they really only appear whenever there's right wing demonstrations counter demonstrate exactly um and so and not the fallen gong fun no the regular old fun yeah so patrick jumps in and man oh look i i gotta be honest i don't like this guy but what you gotta give up to him um you i mean you gotta tip your hat to the fact
Starting point is 00:38:06 that he is he's good at saying he has sources what the hell's going on here well alex thank you for having me i have been briefed by insiders about what's really going on here and what's really going on is a proxy war that's playing out between president donald trump and bill gates and i'm i'm sorry to have to report to the president that dr anthony fauci and dr debor berks are stewjes for bill gates they report his confederacy of dunces i am trying to carry out the sinister agenda upon the world so i like i said he's good at saying he has a source wow he's talk to insiders it took one sentence for me to agree with you he has the most annoying speech pattern yeah it's rough is really rough listening to this dude that is bothersome he see like if he was talking about
Starting point is 00:38:51 something that i was interested in yeah i would still think you are really angry yeah yeah it's just like there's a tone to his voice that is just like dude calm down you are so mad yeah i'm like i would love to hear analysis from other people about the firefly funhouse match sure and if patrick holly was talking about it i would not want to listen i have no interest like you're so mad if you was talking about how good a match it was still so anyway he's very dumb and he's on the chloroquine uh narrative tip really can't believe we're still doing this yep we still are and it's going to get worse of course now bill gates says these vaccines might not come out for another 18 months by which point the american economy
Starting point is 00:39:33 is going to be toast by which point we're going to be you know hauling dead bodies through the streets this is the agenda and you know what president donald trump threw a wrench into all of this because he discovered hydroxychloroquine a very cheap anti-malarial drug that has been around for years and now we have people fighting hydroxychloroquine how prescient that today on fox news on the quiz lane chris wallace's show he had the nerve to have bill gates on and also the governor of christian whitmer who tried to shut down chloroquine in her state she restricted it just like andrew qualmo and i'd like to know if andrew qualmo's brother chris qualmo who says he's having hallucinations i don't know how that's any different than his usual content on cnn
Starting point is 00:40:13 he's on what kind of drugs are he on what kind of drugs are the elites getting that the people are not getting zeta is that an adrenochrome reference bro man jesus these people yeah this is a little this is a little lame i just just line up yeah just line up to die you guys are insane i just feel like um there's such a rank misunderstanding among these folks of like people were saying like you gotta be careful when you're talking about something like a medication yeah um as they take that to be like you're opposed to it like if there were actual good human trials that had been done that showed that hydroxychloroquine was effective yeah i don't think that anyone would be against we be like fuck yes thank you and no one is saying like hey cut it out they're
Starting point is 00:41:00 saying reel it in yeah reel it in you can get people hurt with talk like this we've already seen some like at least one documented death from people taking this advice yep and the possibility of a lot more does exist that's why you have to be careful with those things that's not being anti chloroquine or whatever it's such a such a stupid black and white way of looking at things it is it is interesting if if we accept the hypothesis that alex knows he's lying about this yes then it is hard to take his opening statements of everybody's fucking stupid and sheep and i i just i guess maybe they do need to get rid of as being anything other than him talking about his friends well we know he complains about his friends a lot yeah exactly and his listeners like this
Starting point is 00:41:48 if you believe what alex is saying then alex is talking about you might be yeah so anyway fouchy you know he's coming out here and he's saying that chloroquine's the devil that is not what he said well but it turns out he used to be into chloroquine back when it went in the 60s back in the 60s back when obama liked it was like lsd and he loved chloroquine when obama was president he had mer's coronavirus outbreak but now all of a sudden he doesn't like it so much he's pushing a nationwide stay-at-home order and i refuse alex as a long-time listener of you and as a reporter to watch our freedom get taken away and tyranny imposed on us by this little napoleon complex man and uh lady deborah berks who was appointed by obama you're a shitty liner for radio
Starting point is 00:42:38 listeners are putting all this on screen fouchy got a hundred million dollar grant a few years ago they work together very closely in eugenics they're carrying this out fouchy was involved the whole age age in eugenics so anthony fouchy's history as it relates to the hiv crisis is simultaneously a complicated one and a not so complicated one according to many of the hiv activists who worked with him back then fouchy was initially exactly the sort of government bureaucrat kind of guy that you might expect but he was receptive he listened and eventually he became an important ally in that public health crisis oh that's a recipe for getting killed uh by the right wing 2020 an article on the body pro discusses how quote he dramatically loosened hiv drug clinical
Starting point is 00:43:23 trial requirements so that a far greater number of desperate patients could try new compounds an approach called parallel tracking he expanded research on hiv aids and its treatment in underrepresented women and or people of color and gave activists and people living with hiv seats at the table of the planning committee of the aids clinical trials group the article quotes jim aigo who was an activist with act up who said quote fouchy was a sparring partner with us then a friend they also quote and north up uh north rub excuse me another act up activist quote i would say that at the beginning of his encounters with us he was a pretty typical bureaucrat making excuses for the slow pace of drug investigations and approval i still give him
Starting point is 00:44:06 credit for turning into someone who listened more to the activist point of view and eventually became more of an ally there are definitely plenty of criticisms that can be made of his and any government entities handling of the hiv crisis in the 80s and 90s but it's a little much to say that fouchy was involved in this cover up or something and that's especially rich coming from alex who constantly has john rapaport on his show as a medical expert considering that rapaport is an hiv denialist who sells dvds of his lectures on the subject despite a complete lack of medical qualifications as for the question of chloro chloroquine and merse that's a completely different matter than what we're dealing with today for one what patrick
Starting point is 00:44:46 is probably referring to is an article in mbc news from may 20th 2014 titled quote merse cure question mark lots of drugs might fight virus study finds chloroquine was one of the drugs that were included in that uh lots of drugs and here's what anthony fouchy said back then quote it's a good start you try to stay ahead of the game there's a host of things we're doing hopefully we will never have to use any of them i would need patrick to provide stronger evidence than this to back up his claim that fouchy was all about chloroquine back when obama was president but now he's against it because trump likes it yep and also uh what does patrick mean when he says that depra uh debora berks was appointed by obama true she was made the us global aids
Starting point is 00:45:30 coordinator by obama in 2014 but that wasn't her first position in government she was the director of the cdc's division of global hiv and aid since 2005 which predates obama's presidency and she was working at the nyh since 1986 obama became a senator in 2004 he probably appointed her back then she was at the nyh since 1986 done he became a community organizer in 1986 so he appointed that he was he was anointed from birth to be president so he was yeah maneuvering people at the nyh was she born in kenya too damn maybe i haven't seen her long form so sure she was appointed to a position by obama but it means nothing in this stupid conspiracy that he's going on so whatever it's easy whenever you're a head guy whom you love so much your dear leader has
Starting point is 00:46:17 never held a position in government for you to convince your listeners that nobody else has either yeah or that everybody who you don't like in the moment their history starts when obama did exactly yeah it's like yeah that's not quite accurate yeah we're public servants for i can't i can't imagine somebody wanting to be a public servant to serve the public and that sounds crazy that sounds absolutely insane i'm gonna assume that she's a globalist out to kill us all probably yeah anyway um in this next clip there is this weird obsession that i see on alex's show and i don't think we make enough of a point of it and that is that alex's only real argument that he has about how trump was handling this correctly i mean it used to be that trump secretly declared an
Starting point is 00:47:04 emergency month ago right but he didn't actually do that no and alex has stopped saying that right but the only thing that's really consistent in terms of evidence that trump was on the ball he was taking care of business tcb sure uh he was like bachman turner overdrive out there right um the only example he has is that trump tried to block flights from china hey he did it right he did it that's the only thing he could have saved us they have early on tried to blame trump for this even though trump's one that blocked the chinese flights now the new talk is you know he acted late it's his fault and he wants to open the country you know he's a bad guy they say it'll peak at like two three thousand dying a day he's been a bad guy anybody that now he's a murderer
Starting point is 00:47:46 the common cold is corona uh just not covet 19 so they're actually adding in everyone that has uh antibodies for the common cold who's dying in america to the list it's incredible well that's right alex so patrick agreeing with that is disqualifying yeah that is like alex just rambled through a load of nonsense bullshit i understand him agreeing with the narrative that trump tried to block these flights and therefore he did everything he was supposed to do everything he's supposed to do which is nonsense um but it's not like there was a ctc directive that literally laid out the plans for what needed to be done in this situation and he ignored it that would be crazy right right there there's a there is a ton of breakdown you could do on that sure that front
Starting point is 00:48:33 but alex does have his unophobic position just as a sort of the center his core yeah and so the the idea that he tried to stop travel is like that that's all you need to do yeah which is silly because stop that caravan now he tried to stop flights because i mean i'm saying like obviously you know i think in the episode where we talked about uh alex's response to the bolus stuff we talked about how these travel restrictions don't really work yeah they can slow things down a little bit but they don't really work like because if you have these cases that are identified in china you shut off travel from china like some of these cases might already be outside of china yep so you could have someone from russia neighboring country or whatever who comes over you don't have a travel
Starting point is 00:49:19 restriction there it can still get in there might be some slowing down of progression that you can do and maybe there's some value to that but the consequences of it are are maybe make things even worse yeah so it's a complicated picture but it's the only thing alex cares about but i understand the idea that patrick would agree with that the fact that he's just like yeah when alex is saying that anybody who tests positive for antibodies to the cold any kind of coronavirus is being called covet nineteen exactly is is he doesn't have anything to base that on he gives no citation no evidence of that at all i don't see any reason to think that he's not just making that up yeah because he's probably making it up yeah and patrick's like yeah i'm a
Starting point is 00:50:06 fucking why not i am anti communist propaganda yes and guy yeah absolutely whatever that sounds just as reasonable as the bullshit i was about to say so why not agree with you now and skip that part now patrick might be about to swing you i doubt it because he's gonna talk some shit on joe biden okay now i still doubt it to be fair this is an instance where joe biden is being done dirty and uh of course he is because all the legitimate criticisms that you have of biden are almost equally applicable to your guys we gotta make up some bullshit well this one is also from 2005 okay all right right because obama pointed him vice president in 2005 right yes let's go ahead and say that it has to do with the john roberts confirmation here okay okay joe biden the very
Starting point is 00:50:53 guy who in 2005 asked john roberts from the uh supreme court confirmation hearing can a microscopic tag be implanted in a person's body to track his every movement there's actual discussion about that now i i haven't seen anything in the king james bible about vaccines but i have seen something about the market of beast and i know that these people are drawing us into something very sinister here this guy is an angry kid man i have never been so it's awful i've never been checkmated more than i haven't seen anything in the bible about vaccines yeah woof so this is really fun all these dumb dumb conspiracy theorists like to trot out this quote from joe biden during the john roberts confirmation to uh to claim that biden wants to microchip everyone and bring us into the
Starting point is 00:51:36 mark of the beast or whatever this quote that uh that they always use as patrick did in a recent post on national file is quote we'll be faced with equally consequential decisions of the 21st century can a microscopic tag be implanted in a person's body to track his every movement there's actual discussion about that you will rule on that mark my words before your tenure is over can brain scans be used to determine whether a person's uh a person's inclined for criminality or violent behavior you will rule on that this sort of a quote is one that is begging for surrounding context why don't we take uh take a look and listen to what biden was actually saying no we don't have recordings from 2005 dan that's too far in the past there's no way that we could i
Starting point is 00:52:19 actually well one of my magical powers is uh i go back in time the way back yeah like the founders i believe our constitution is as big and as grand and as great as its people our constitutional journey did not stop with women being barred from being lawyers with 10 year olds working in coal mines or black kids forced into different schools and white kids just because the constitution in the constitution nowhere does it mention sex discrimination child labor segregation it doesn't mention it our constitutional journey did not stop then and it must not stop now judge and we'll be faced with equally consequential decisions in the 21st century can a microscopic tag be implanted in a person's body to track his every movement there's actual discussion about that
Starting point is 00:53:06 you will rule on that mark my words before your tenure is over can brain scans be used to determine whether a person is inclined toward criminality or violent behavior you will rule on that and judge i need to know whether you will be adjusted to believes that the constitutional journey must continue to speak to these consequential decisions or no that we've gone far enough from protecting against government intrusion into our autonomy into the most personal decisions we make judge that's why this is a critical moment whoops biden was actually bringing this possibility up as an example of something he wanted to take roberts temperature on because he thought it would be government intrusion into our autonomy whoops biden was actually saying he wanted to be comfortable
Starting point is 00:53:50 that roberts was against that before confirming him whoops patrick holly knows good and god damn well the next thing biden says in that confirmation hearing is that he knows that but he pretends he doesn't because it invalidates the narrative he's trying to build with that out of context quote this is what liars do such bull for as much as i hate biden if james o keith came out with a video professing to show anything i'd be like go fuck yourself i don't give a shit what you lying pieces of shit have to say well it's it's one of those things that like you shouldn't i mean you can almost always make that assumption and you'll almost always be right but you know airing too much on the side of i assume you're wrong therefore i won't take anything you say as being plausible
Starting point is 00:54:32 can be just as destructive of of a view now granted from my experience of constantly looking into all of these things over and over again there's that i will say that almost never is something above board that's put out by almost anybody who's an associate of alex jones i will give them one percent of the benefit of the doubt that's a little bit of a high bar to cross for me to give a shit though yeah yeah the the thing is that like that quote you can use it and you do like someone like patrick does but the reality is he knows like if he unless he just read it on some website completely devoid of context and he didn't look into it he has to have watched this yeah of course he has to have seen it i i don't believe that he wouldn't be like wait what does
Starting point is 00:55:21 that mean what is he trying to say and if he's not that he's not a curious person he is not that means like i don't know maybe you shouldn't be in the line you're in you would think you shouldn't be in a position where you're conveying information to people if you are not curious about what that information means in its appropriate context he is not at all interested in that and his job is not to convey information his job is to spread propaganda jordan you is in the perfect line of work you may be right yeah so also he is against patrick is against immigration quite a bit i can't imagine he doesn't like the idea that government's giving money to bail out these businesses um it has something to do with immigration he wants them to he wants
Starting point is 00:56:09 these businesses to fail sure something to do with punishing this is weird this is a weird quote all right i'll take this bending over backward to serve globalist corporations who will leave us in two seconds when the mass immigration policies that they lobby for give us a permanent democrat socialist majority we have no reason to cater to these people or bail them out with our money let them fail that's the free market that's right let's go further they know by giving china one sided trade deals and building it up trump was ending that bringing industry back they make almost all our drugs so now china has the virus shuts down a few weeks opens back up we're shut down for supposedly years china wins the trade war where the globalists have all invested so this is
Starting point is 00:56:49 admittedly a globalist operation admittedly i don't know how it's admittedly a globalist operation i don't even think any of those things you're saying are accurate now the thing that i think is really interesting about this is patrick holly is clearly furious at these companies for encouraging immigration um because he believes it will lead to a democratic socialist of course uh uh voting block as most corporations want sure so that's weird and in response to that he says fuck it let him fail yeah now in the in the climate that we're dealing with right now the reason that a lot of these businesses will fail is because businesses have to be closed because they're unessential businesses so when he's talking about this that's clearly what is trying to be mitigated by these
Starting point is 00:57:38 government efforts yeah you would think that doing a good thing would be recognized as a good thing what do you mean what about you i follow trying to keep these small businesses from closing well he's not talking about small business oh he's not talking about he's talking about these big government uh or not government these big uh global air cartels like that kind of like the cruise line industry yeah fuck them i don't know anyway the the distinction is very is very weird because he wants these businesses to fail as some sort of a punishment because they encourage immigration in his mind yeah but simultaneously he also wants people to go back to work president donald trump is trying to scale this back and thank god that we have a republican in there who's looking at the
Starting point is 00:58:20 stock market numbers saying we need to get back to work we're going to race against the clock to try to get treatment here if we had a democrat in there this could very well be the one and we all know what we're talking about the one we've been wondering is it going to be a fake alien invasion are they going to bring out some kind of fast moving cylindrical disc that they've used hollywood to predictive program us to think it's an alien invasion and we have to cast off nationhood and form a one world government if the aliens are going to embrace us is it going to be climate change this hoax that gretta thunberg is pushing this guy gets it wow yeah man go to bed jesus go away so on the one hand he wants all these big businesses to fail and then on the other hand he's worried
Starting point is 00:59:00 that the stock market is going down so people got to go back to work yeah this just seems incongruous and and these are things that are said within like a minute of each other it doesn't make sense to me it is it is we need trump to save these businesses of course stock market by making people go back to work in risk to their own personal safety and each other's safety but also fuck these big businesses they should go out of business because i hate immigration yes i don't get it this makes perfect sense there's there's nobody that i want to support more than somebody who looks at hundreds of thousands of people dying across the world and thinks thank god we have a republican president who's willing to look at the stock numbers that's what i want that's what i support you know yep
Starting point is 00:59:50 that lion on that graph is gotta yeah yeah you know what i money's real dan did you know that you know what i like to do is i like to take the stock market right i take a stocks price on the x axis sure sure not on the y axis number of chickens affected snicking issues exactly got you so in this next clip patrick holly is gone and good riddance boy i do not look forward to his next appearance on the show no that voice is tough i don't look forward to his continuing to speak ever even if he was interesting as like in the same way that someone like leo zagami is or something i still would have a real tough time sitting through it yeah yeah no even if he was admitted to nine eleven i wouldn't like it he's a shittier linel yeah he's a really shitty version of line
Starting point is 01:00:37 yeah linel's voice is super annoying i did get a lot of feedback from listeners about that like too much linel it is annoying it is annoying it's a so annoying but i mean it's better than that fucker so alex teases his next guest in this next clip folks we're going to start the second hour and if you thought this was big news this hour we've got good news next you think that hydroxychloric one that we've been talking about for eight nine weeks is good turns out there's something even better and i did a bunch of research talked to a bunch of medical doctors and a lot of stuff from i'm gonna tell you about this i'm selling it by the way medical and i almost don't want to announce this till you know i go out and get it for myself it's amazing mike adams is going to be
Starting point is 01:01:21 on with us to talk about this coming up what i am selling is just good natural things you know we're good for yourself we have a great multi-vitam in the real red pill i'm giving it a 50 off right now you know it's gonna sell out very very soon because it's got zinc you know as it's got zinc damn sure now i'm not saying that zinc does anything i'm not connecting zinc to any situation right now i wouldn't want to do that i'm just saying that it has zinc in it yeah and perhaps on episodes prior i have made it a point that zinc maybe maybe you could use one of these things called a hypothetical syllogism yeah and put together a equals b equals c a equals c who knows put it together on your own the ftc is not smart enough to figure that out no and maybe that's not illegal
Starting point is 01:02:04 i don't know it's a mess um so one of the things i think is really funny there is alex is like i don't know if i want to bring this information that i am presenting is really important health information to you because i know that i'm going to cause a run on a product right and i want to make sure i have some myself yes very weird very strange no that's an altruistic person right there dan i will tell you about the cure as soon as i already have a bunch of it yeah as soon as i have already hoarded the cure for this disease you will know now the second thing is i was listening to that i was like i know that my like be myself i have been a fan of shows in the past and i know that when a certain guest is on that show sure like a podcast i'm going to be like this is
Starting point is 01:02:52 going to be good like i i am andy daily shows up on almost anything on anything yeah that's going to be like oh you see that like oh shit daily is here i'm in yeah exactly like that i wonder if there are people who listen to alex jones and he's like we got mike adams coming up in the like holy i'm going to get the good info right now it's getting real two million dead 90 000 dead zero dead everybody dead i don't know day to day i wonder if there is a community of people who like legitimately view his sort of recurring guests as uh like the same way we look at like an andy daily or mike schmitt on never not funny or something i just can't believe it but there have to be right there has to be something like that that's disgusting that's really sad to think
Starting point is 01:03:39 about yeah that bum me out that's a real bummer yeah that's that's the reverse reverse bright spot so alex goes to break uh he's teased that mike adams is coming up he's not here yet but he does have another guest of course and that is a big old gun on his desk we're a tv viewer you notice that i have a very nice h and k a german firearm right here the rented tank of guns they call it the gold standard still of a nine millimeter sub machine gun i love these and i've got a lot of nine millimeter sub machine guns i guess i got five of them six of them and i've got for hunting five five six you know smaller rifles and things and i've got 308 and i've got uh 338 lapua and i got 50 cows and
Starting point is 01:04:29 i got it all but this is probably my favorite gun for hunting i can hit bullseye pretty much all the time at 50 to 100 yards without even trying with this without a magnified scope when hunting it's amazing but you know i use this for defense i'm not gonna still carry but this is this is what i've got in my car what and it's because it's super accurate for not just offending myself but if i see bank robbers or people robbing somebody that situation we're all very often if i'm driving around with my rifle in the car and i see some bank robbers oh gotta get out of the car it's time to stop a bank robber if i see some motherfucker looking like a hamburger running into the first national
Starting point is 01:05:23 i got a rifle if i hear about what the dalton gang is up to i'm gonna be there buddy i love it i love it i guarantee he's never used that gun in any first of all never bank robbery but second for not any similar situation now i don't want to be a dick and be like hey you know like they're you know whatever having a gun for protection and and so like that isn't isn't categorically a bad thing but the way alex is presenting this it's a bad thing ludicrous and so funny yeah that is i have i that's how his brain works i just he imagines he's going to run into a bank robbery of course he does yeah of course he does he keeps it in his car just in case a bank robber breaks out in a boat he hates banks why would he stop a robbery because it's the right thing to do
Starting point is 01:06:10 do all of that were fdic insured they're mixed up with the fed he doesn't give a shit i feel like from his principles he should be more likely to use that rifle in a bank robber yeah absolutely that is okay that is such that idea like mark wallberg being like man if i was on that plane i would stop yeah 11 just like who are you people yeah missing stop misguided heroic masculinity is is such a fascinating fun thing just go home yeah just go away so alex gets into in this next clip talking about like why is the gun on the desk beyond the fact that he loves guns and he likes to show him sure the reason i have the gun out here is a gun i know can defend me and if a vaccine can be proven to be safe and effective which they lie about then i would take
Starting point is 01:06:59 it as well and i shoot it lie about it but when they inject little kids and others with these vaccines and they have secret vaccine damage funds that's admitted that they exist billions of year paid out and then they tell you nobody ever got hurt by a vaccine they're damn liars i say nobody died in a car wreck so that's like shooting a little kid it's like saying nobody died at sandy hook it's a weapon so alex is making a completely incoherent argument here if you track his logic it breaks down like this he loves this gun because it gives protection but it can also be used to hurt in the same way alex would love vaccines if they gave protection except they're being used to hurt the proof that vaccines are bad is that quote they lie about them being safe
Starting point is 01:07:42 which i don't know what he means by that in my experience the lies about vaccine safety that i've encountered have almost entirely come from alex's side doctors and public health experts don't say that vaccines or any medication are totally safe they generally are pretty clear that almost everything comes with potential side effects but that the incidents of those side effects are almost negligible compared to the benefit derived from vaccines also alex and his friends constantly lie about various side effects that they imagine from vaccines the vaccine courts are not secret outside of people's identity being kept private because that's confidential medical information that can't be released without invading patients privacy
Starting point is 01:08:21 we've talked about it a bunch in the past but these payments are made not because the courts definitively prove that negative experiences possibly related to vaccines were caused by vaccines but because if the system were set up in any other way medical progress would be completely stalled and these people would end up losing almost all of these cases in normal courts the burden of proof is actually way way lower in these vaccine damage courts than they would be in any other venue mostly because very few of these people could ever make their case in an actual court now the comparing this to the situation with people being shot by guns is interesting because the folks that receive coverage by these vaccine courts you know like who get like who are
Starting point is 01:09:00 protected by them to an extent yeah are the vaccine manufacturers they have a certain amount of liability protection that the state assumes because of the gigantic public health benefit they provide which would be stopped by having to deal with frivolous or just iffy court cases all the time but gun manufacturers are even more protected you really can't sue a gun manufacturer if one of their products is used in a murder of one of your loved ones the supreme court decided in november 2019 that sandy hook families could attempt to sue remington which is something to watch but historically that's not been something that's worked out because how someone uses a product isn't the responsibility of the product's maker generally speaking right alex understands
Starting point is 01:09:40 that concept as it relates to guns perfectly well and he yells about it all the time at the end there he says that giving a kid a vaccine is like shooting them with an mp5 which it's not but let's imagine that it were in the case of the kid being shot with an mp5 alex would scream bloody murder if someone tried to sue the gun manufacturer or the nra for promoting guns or anybody except the person who did the shooting themselves but in the case of vaccines he wants to put the entire system on trial as opposed to just the doctor who administered the shot which seems weird to be clear i think all of this is stupid but i only bring any of this up because alex is trying to use a metaphor that absolutely does not work given his belief set unless he's willing to accept the gun manufacturers
Starting point is 01:10:22 should be opened up to liability for damage done by their product it doesn't make any sense for him to be advocating that kind of thing for vaccine manufacturers it doesn't i mean if you want to talk about someone who's hurt by like malpractice that involves a vaccine isn't that might be the same as like accidentally shooting somebody yeah but the metaphor doesn't hold well if it was an immigrant who accidentally did some malpractice then alex would never ever ever ever shut the fuck up certainly that would become a years long yeah running thing see immigrants are the ones who created vaccines yeah there's an intrinsic problem with the way he's uh relating to this and the only reason i think it's actually interesting at all is because he went out of his
Starting point is 01:11:03 way to put a gun on his desk in order to make this metaphor that's poorly thought out and contradictory to what he believes yes so cool that's a good summation of alex's show i've got a gun out here to make a point that doesn't make sense and actually goes actively against my stated principles yeah guns yep that's that's that's what it's all about yep so now alex teased that mike adams is going to be on to talk about this new miracle cure and has alex already gotten a ton what has he already gotten a bunch of the miracle career i mean in the last like 15 minutes yeah maybe even less than that no it's probably a couple minutes no okay all right well then i can't believe but it doesn't matter because mike has already put an article out on natural news about
Starting point is 01:11:47 this so like the word is out so his new cure is more abola no oh no this is actually like closer to like in terms of like the really irresponsible stuff they do the kernel of reality here is closer to like this is in the public's interest to like maybe discuss a little bit now the way they discuss it all right terrible okay but uh we'll get to that here alex intros mike to get into the uh the topic of the day this is a big story at natural news comm it's also info wars dot com and news wars dot com please spread it whatever you do this is a lot we're information war about fighting for lives this is what we do single dose of common agricultural drug found to essentially eliminate all viral material of covid-19 within 48 hours
Starting point is 01:12:35 so going into this right now is mike adams this is really exciting news mike it's really great news thanks for having me on alex and i want to be clear i think the fastest way to defeat the globalist is to defeat the coronavirus because if they can keep this thing circulating then they can eventually push for mandatory vaccines the way we cut off their vaccine agenda is to beat this thing without even taking much time at all we can beat it i believe with these kinds of you know off label prescription drugs or off patent excuse me prescription drugs so what we have here there is uh the what they're promoting is this thing called iver mekton is the name of the uh the drug okay and so well what you got here um there was a study that came out recently in the
Starting point is 01:13:18 journal antiviral research it was released on april second it was reporting on some research that was done about the antiparasitic medication iver mekton and its possible effect on the coronavirus their findings taken simply show that iver mekton could decrease the viral load approximately 99.98 in 48 hours which sounds pretty exciting but there's it's important to recognize that this is not conclusive and that there are caveats the first is that this study was done on human cells outside the body or what's known as in vitro so to take these findings and just assume that they depict exactly how the body would react to the drug if you took it is pretty reckless it indicates a little bit of a lack of understanding about how the body works which is
Starting point is 01:14:00 what these dudes are about to engage in wholesale yeah you can get one result in isolated cells outside the body but these cells when inside a human body don't exist the same way they do in a petri dish they're components of a larger system that has complicated inputs and variables that could completely change the results of any in vitro study you might do now this isn't to say that this test or this sort of thing is worthless but that the results of a test like this are things that should be taken as a stepping stone it's a sign of a possibility but not something that's proven whatever the effect that this iver mekton has on these human cells could be undone by some biological process within the body when these cells aren't isolated you don't know
Starting point is 01:14:48 it's interesting it's compelling it almost demands further study but it is not something that you can say gets rid of 98.98 percent of coronavirus taken by people or whatever like that is that's where you get into trouble you just blew my mind so you're telling me that human cells outside of the body can react differently than human cells inside of the body that's fucking crazy i just found out that you can transmit a disease when you don't have symptoms dan i take all of my scientific advice from georgia governors that's what i do here they might not even know about the other one my mind yeah so it is like like like what i was saying is like this is interesting and it's not something in the same vein as the chloroquine because
Starting point is 01:15:36 those studies were pretty flawed and from what i can tell as far as i know i don't know this because i don't i certainly would be in no position to know this sure but from what it said on the website of this this journal this antiviral research journal that it what this is peer reviewed yeah it's not like just some thrown at an incredibly promising study that shows real sort of possibility however that doesn't mean anything yet incredibly promising is putting it too strongly okay this is a promising study yes there we go yeah there is some potential yeah that's great so that doesn't mean that that's even reflected in the study itself which concludes quote altogether the current report combined with known safety profiles demonstrates that
Starting point is 01:16:20 ivermectin is worthy of further consideration as a possible SARS coronavirus 2 antiviral the study shows that more research should be done and not that this should be promoted as a cure what alex and michael are doing and getting ready to do is deeply irresponsible they just jump from one unproven miracle cure to another because they can't do anything else their worldview and narratives have no depth to them so they just have to keep moving and keep crafting elaborate and exciting things to distract their audience from realizing they're full of shit and also another element to it is i think that they have to do stuff like this because the alternative is the stuff that alex was doing on the last episode that ended up getting into
Starting point is 01:16:59 cause for war with china yeah like if you if you pursue that path too far you're going to get tons of people killed yep through street violence against chinese americans like you have to do something like this to make it so the focus isn't all on saber rattling right um and that's sad because there's another way to do this or just do neither you can get away with uh influencing a lot of deaths slowly over time by a disease easier than you can get away with calling for a war probably although hold that thought till the end of this episode we'll see because we might also be at war hey what are you gonna do hey what are you gonna do um it it's a mess these dudes these dudes are are really taking this study in antiviral research and going too hard with it yeah they're
Starting point is 01:17:52 doing too much this story is about ivermectin which is an agricultural drug you can buy it here in texas you can buy it a tractor supply retail stores sounds a little bit like a publisher too every cattle rancher has this it's a dewarming drug and it's available over the counter it's very inexpensive by the way when you told me this i remember the large animal that i worked for that did major in vitro for a large animal you worked for on for five years just adkins i remember him saying oh you're getting sick take dewormer i remember him drinking dewormer 30 years ago bro yeah we miss him 30 years ago bro bro i've been drinking ivermectin for 30 years bro he uh i'm not gonna fuck around he can't be uh reached to guest on this episode because he died of dewormer
Starting point is 01:18:41 toxicity what are you gonna do so to be clear this is a medication that is mostly a veterinary medication there is a human version but it's called stromectol uh that is a prescription drug for humans sure sure what mic is doing is advocating the people take animal medicine really take a step back and let that soak in the health ranger is promoting animal medications as a cure for the coronavirus based on a very much inconclusive study he doesn't understand that's staggering stuff like take it outside of the prism of like yeah where we we are in this world so we have like so much jadedness to the oh it's brutal you just you write that down on a piece of paper and you give it to somebody to read who doesn't know about right who these people are right uh
Starting point is 01:19:28 that's that's bleak yeah yeah that's a it's a it's like a tv plot like no no no no no no you got a like like the guy who's who's just been in a firefight and he's running away from the cops and he knows he can't go to a real hospital so he has to go to his veterinary friend who'd still knows how to sew people up and pull the bullet out and he's like thanks man i can only trust you like that's what we're living in i'm thinking more it's the sort of thing that alex would judge someone in a third world or developing country for advocating uh if they people take animal medicine they don't even know a goddamn thing they're not even taking people medicine yeah it seems like that kind of thing and it's so it's kind of tough to see that as you like
Starting point is 01:20:12 constantly are just inundated by this stuff but like you take it outside of the context of it being alex and mike and it's like yeah it is ludicrous this is ridiculous yeah which means it'll be on fox news tomorrow to hold on though mike wants to be very clear about this of course he is not recommending you take his medication right just to be clear we're not recommending this for human consumption at the moment let's be clear i understand what i've witnessed yes let's be clear absolutely well people do take it i i've had people text me and say uh they took it they ate it that you can buy it as a apple flavored paste for horses and and some people have eaten it and they say it tastes really nasty but it works solid in a bucket i'm not
Starting point is 01:20:52 recommending it for anybody until we know more but really feels like you're walking that line that's uh hey i just want to be legally clear i want to be 100 legally clear i am not recommending you take this miracle drug that i am telling you cures the coronavirus now i should tell you that i know people who took the horse paste hey and the apple flavor tastes bad but hey they love it they text me but i am not saying legally clear really feels like that's the main uh line they're trying to walk there which is fun yeah so mike gets into talking about this study a little bit and i don't think that he engaged with it well this has been published in antiviral research which is a peer reviewed science journal and it's very clear the the data show that this
Starting point is 01:21:43 can fight against simian virus dengue fever west nile virus venezuelan equine encephalitis virus influenza and even a pseudo rabies virus and this is available right now and it's i am not recommending you take it types of things not for the coronavirus yet so this study doesn't show any of those things that mike is claiming it references other studies that have indicated some promise for ivermectin as a broad spectrum antiviral but mike is really overselling this thing also as it relates to dengue the study literally says quote ivermectin was the focus of a recent phase three clinical trial in dengue patients in thailand in which a single daily dose was found to be safe but not produce any clinical benefit all right there may be something worthwhile
Starting point is 01:22:30 here but this like from the information that's available this kind of talk from someone pretending to be a health ranger is fucking premature this is not like they're they are over hyping this to an extent that's just deeply irresponsible listen i am not going to i am saying that you should not take this drug don't take the horse that yours dengue figure that cures corona virus semi environs that cures polo why not that cures pseudo rabies fucking polio twice over it double cures polio i'm not saying that you should take not rabies pseudo rabies pseudo rabies i'm not recommending that you take that frankly i think it would be responsible for somebody to say you should take this drug but that cures all diseases bing bing bing bing what's this oh a text
Starting point is 01:23:15 from someone who took it and is doing great oh man that's crazy that's crazy i'm not recommending you take it but this person on my phone who definitely is real so alex seems to think that what's going on is that the media doesn't like people taking things off label right like whatever the drug is like they don't like you using drugs for different purposes than x i thought like everybody did that sure i mean the drugs have different uses yeah like well butrin is an anti depressant but it's also a smoking cessation drug yeah there's tons of things like that so but the the issue is the the thing that people are pushing back against isn't that like this is an off label use it's that there isn't good science that shows that this is
Starting point is 01:24:05 effective and it could hurt people so when the president comes out and says why not hey it's not what he got to lose dan yeah and then the american medical editor is like the the living you have living to lose that do what the president says that's what people are responding to not so much a vague concept of yeah off label use now his complaint about this is is dumb but what makes it worse is then he goes on to name him and might go on to name multiple drugs that are used for different things this might work if the hydroxychloroquine doesn't work for a patient this is another avenue by the way the media acts like they don't want any hope that it's able to have things off they don't want hope that's what always happens with some new disease they
Starting point is 01:24:54 always it's almost always some old drug that's the answer well the media has been promoting off label use of all kinds of drugs for for many many many years that's that's nothing new to them what are they changing their story now but look jam rogane that's a you're doing that was for 30 years until the 90s that was a high blood pressure medicine now they learned it grows hair yeah right yeah exactly the little blue pills were were first researched as a heart drug and found out it gives men erections so you know they changed the the use there as well yeah but here's the thing each of those cases that you're talking about didn't get changed just on a whim there were trials that were done i remember in the 90s i remember in the 90s clinton specifically came
Starting point is 01:25:38 out and he was like i don't know you guys want boners give it a shot why not when you got to lose you want boners and hair take these things yeah exactly what do you got to lose yeah that the difference is the process the process is very important because if we didn't have that process there would be people taking all sorts of fucked up things that will kill you and don't actually work yeah which is what mike there we go mike ebola cure adams want to put a little ball in it right that's really scary that level of thinking is really fucking scary these people are dumb do they not realize people are done well because the reason that this is really scary is because those examples that they come up with that they're like this out always works like you're on those
Starting point is 01:26:22 things went through the process that the people you're mad at right now are that's their point right like it wouldn't rogaine wouldn't be used to grow hair if there weren't you know like people who like we got to we got to try it out we got to see yeah do all these tests yeah it it's just such a stupid it's it's such bad thinking no they're children yeah it's terrifying absolutely they're toddlers yeah so we have these now bunch of treatments i mean we've got hydrochloroquine we got uh ivermectin we got we got all these treatments so we don't need to listen to the uh the the man really don't think that's okay this effect is that it blocks the replication of this virus this was tested against the corona virus the sars cove to virus which is what which is not
Starting point is 01:27:15 this so this this just adds to our uh treasure chest of possible treatments that are available right now alex we don't have to be under lockdown we don't have to be under lockdown we don't yeah because we got all these treatments and if they try and give you a vaccine you fucking run right you run you get away from them and you take some hydrochloroquine and some ivermectin and some fucking zinc get some you fucking hole up and go back to work at the same time get some uh dog heartworm medication and you're gonna put some apple paste in there and you call it a day right so you fell into a little bit of a trap there that actually find very disappointing and that is that you thought that sars cove two wasn't the corona virus i didn't realize that cove
Starting point is 01:27:59 two was a thing well c o v in the middle of it sars corona virus two okay that's one of the names of the that's one of the names all right i haven't had i've been stuck with cove at 19 that's just what i've been dealing with right cool cool cool i'm fine with that they're the same thing um but alex doesn't quite get that as well you and alex might be in the same camp here thank you so that's why when you talk about this good news uh single dose of common anti agricultural drug found to essentially eliminate all viral material that's a major study that you're linking to and and people think oh well they go well this is a new virus you can't say that no no it's from the same family as corona virus so the test or the study is about the sars corona virus too and alex is saying it's
Starting point is 01:28:43 in the family of virus sure but it's the same it is same covid 19 that we're talking about yes they're just using a different name currently in order for a different taxonomy to make sense i guess yeah in a different context yeah so alex tries to might correct him like no that is the same virus cool and so alex tries to cover for not knowing he tries to pretend that like oh well you know i i know these things you've got this big study that's in a prestigious uh journal uh antiviral research FDA approved drug uh ivermectin innovates inhibits the replication of sars covid v2 in vitro and again some are going to spend that and say that's not covid 19 explain that's the original name is sars cov2 correct yeah that that is the corona virus that's the uhan corona virus sars cough too
Starting point is 01:29:31 the the sars from whatever many years ago it was as sars i was reading comments i was reading comments that that's why people don't get it that it's had a bunch of names but the official original name is sars dash c o v dash two so yeah alex is trying to really cover for not knowing it as opposed to you owning up to like yeah i didn't realize it was the same i have absolutely no problem being in the same boat as even alex in not knowing something if i was a in the same boat as alex in denying that i didn't know something then i have a very serious problem yeah that that's uh i mean it's unfortunate that you didn't realize that but at the same time it is a nice moment of the difference in reaction i just i did you're not threatened by i haven't seen it before so fucking cool i'm in
Starting point is 01:30:19 okay great so i don't mind being wrong so alex does mind he does it's a real issue and he really has to try and cover for it and that's great um in this next clip mike much like patrick holly yes um is really a brilliant thinker no oh take an aim right between the eyes dr fouchy dr fouchy is a bill gates puppet and dr fouchy is trump's enemy in fact dr fouchy has under oath lied to congress about vaccines and he has come out and treated the vaccines call it horrific side effects dr fouchy wants america to suffer and die until he can push a vaccine onto everybody in order to carry out oh he's following the bill gates blueprint and absolutely so now i mean we just got this this this inundation of like this guy is trump's enemy i'm confused as to what the
Starting point is 01:31:11 game is on this one what do you mean i mean this this seems like we we've taken a harsh pivot towards this being primarily an anti vex situation yeah yeah yeah so so but now you just they just can't put it as fair enough fair enough they just can't put it aside for like five seconds like it does it seems like fouchy is doing the best he can with the expertise he has and the limitations that he's dealing with but he's not he's not perfectly in line with trump's bullshit so he's a threat he's an enemy i know but that seems so stupid it does on a level that it's just unconscionable well i mean it's exactly what you should expect based on right the last couple years that we've been right following right it seems like you should like you would imagine
Starting point is 01:31:59 that like from all the stuff we've seen they'd just be like okay look we were fucking around for long time sorry about that look this is serious now i mean or find a way to keep the business profitable while like not like not being yeah jeopardizing of people's health yeah no i this is this is that thing of the people who know things are the enemy people kill the smart one it is like people who are of the opinion that like oh all it will take for humanity to really come together is a threat outside of humanity that we can all unite around and it's like no alex jones would be like one independence day is bullshit there are no aliens sure you saw the white house blow up the white house blew up on itself and it's just like no it's these people those aliens are working with
Starting point is 01:32:48 the globalists and they're just trying to scare you you saw the white house blow up it was just trying to scare you to bring in martial law yep they tell you that aliens are running around so you shouldn't leave your house yep but that's just because they don't want you to leave your house will smith was born in kenya like whatever you guys are going to try and kill the human race no matter what yeah it is really a bummer yeah it is it is and and a lot of the primary direction that this seems to be going on this episode and i mean obviously anti vaccination narratives have gone throughout like alex's fear of imagined forced course vaccines and stuff yes but it seems like that's becoming a bit more primary um but also you know the idea of killing off everybody
Starting point is 01:33:35 through a world war also seems like it might be an alex's wheelhouse it would be a bad i legitimately think that this next clip alex is trying to start a world war okay china i predicted this in early february they would try to export the virus to infect as many other countries as possible so they could shift the blame away from china and that's exactly what's happened that's all this is they're just trying to make sure they can rewrite history and blame you know trump instead of china's incompetent corrupt what the hell with all these videos of chinese trying to spread it what the and then they're executed if gc ping doesn't like it he's encouraging this well yeah again it's the anti american hatred that's been put in place because china you know the social
Starting point is 01:34:18 engineering propaganda is what precedes war china is going to attack the united states in more ways than just this biological weapon i've been writing about that recently as well there are more attacks coming alex that that's kind of the big news right now people better be ready this is going to get a lot worse from here forward we're in war with communist china when is it uh to fight back we'll be right back stay with us when is the time to fight back yeah i mean mike already looked way back predicted a ground invasion of the united states by china so for him this is something that america's historically been terrified of yeah this is all kind of in the same vein as some of the other bullshit he's been saying but like you get into a point where alex is like what are you doing
Starting point is 01:35:03 what are you doing advocating for a world war with china yeah do you think that's just like going to be uh no big deal uh do you think like china doesn't also have allies well no you think the bricks countries aren't all basically going to form an alive how dare you let's not do this again dan it's good versus evil we don't need to worry about the world getting involved everybody's going to stay out of the way it's going to be like a one on one it's going to be like a an Achilles versus a hector kind of situation america versus china get them in the ring one night only we're going to solve this whole problem no it'll be like the fiend versus john sena in that the fight won't happen and it'll be deterioration of america's ego oh god that needs to be deteriorated pretty hard
Starting point is 01:35:51 i just think i think that this is so dumb i think it's i think it's really irresponsible i don't obviously don't think it's going to lead to a world war but in terms of the rhetoric that he's putting forth like you getting to that point where it's like well what you seem to want to happen is that you seem to want uh circumstances that would lead to no other option than open war between the united states and china and that is a hellscape that is something that i can't imagine anybody wanting even someone who hates china i can't imagine them wanting that here are the options that alex has kind of provided us an issue with uh there's global cooperation between all of these countries satan to try and destroy uh or to try and overcome the uh saris cove to virus satanic
Starting point is 01:36:46 thank you uh or uh global world war uh killing an exponentially greater number of people uh in the for the sake of lies and the ultimate irony too is that like what he seems to want or the the path that he his rhetoric takes you down is much closer to that lockstep scenario absolutely that is in the rockefeller doc that he's so terrified of right the idea of nation states becoming even further insulated and more uh autocratic uh right and and at war with each other regional alliances like that they it's it's dumb that's a dumb response that is the summation of his entire career as we've learned in the past three years is scaring people and terrifying them of something so much that they work to bring it about maybe unintentionally i don't i don't know if that was you know but
Starting point is 01:37:46 goal along but right but like oh i'm so terrified of a dictator and of a tyrant of all this shit and thank god we can elect trump to stop that and suspend all elections and suppress voters and do all of this other shit and you're like are you are you fucking with me was this a huge reverse psychology situation the whole time no i don't think so no i doubt it they're just too stupid so speaking of people who are stupid and there's a next clip uh mike talks about some people he went to uh college with and this is supposed to be in the context of his he has a big point that he wants to make about uh five g oh i was hoping it was the movie porkies no okay although i don't i don't remember porkies perfectly well but there might be a scene similar to this probably not with five g
Starting point is 01:38:32 towers no it does involve drinking okay good so uh his point is that five g sets you up to get corona virus because the sure the way that it electrifies your blood or something it makes the cells and ionizes them to cleave right the virus better and this is the same as when he was in college okay and his buddies would lick batteries all right in order to get drunk faster by the way this is the health ranger all right i've known people when i went back in college who would drink alcohol and they would get drunk by having a voltage pass through their fingers they would hold hold battery leads and they would get extra voltage and it would make the alcohol like five times more effective they would actually get drunk due to the electroporosity i'm not even
Starting point is 01:39:21 because it's pushing it into the cells yes pushing the alcohol into the cells it makes you more drunk it's weakening the bloodstream alcohol yeah absolutely i mean yeah man this is like when i used to hang out with uh bunch of potheads in college and they'd be like you gotta cough to get off man haha dude this you don't cough from hitting the bong and you're not really getting high haha this reminds me of uh i don't know if you saw this press conference but this one was uh not as widely circulated but dr. Fauci was like you should not take uh hydrochloroquine just yet because we don't have uh all the evidence about it in the same way that when i was in college we used to butt chug and it didn't turn out that that made us get drunk any faster so uh i think i
Starting point is 01:40:04 strongly disagree i saw in lansing that butt chugging is uh um oh god yeah oh boy that's that's not good i i really think that uh college drinking short story should be the basis for a lot of health decisions yeah that i've made in my life hey listen five g's dangerous because my buddy's lick batteries right bro that is what he's saying that is literally what he's saying i don't know if there's any truth to this but i tried to look into it and i did not find any evidence that some sort of electrifying uh voltage uh makes you drunk faster even back then mike adams really knew how to push the envelope nobody was even testing for whether or not licking batteries would get you drunk faster just seems like some dumb thing that you
Starting point is 01:40:55 say you know uh your dorm you know like that's all that's insane yeah so in this next clip mike says something else stupid but it's all that is fun stupid this is more paranoid stupid great yeah speaking of blood draws by the way this what governor abbott announced for texas you know when they test your antibodies they're gonna they're gonna track your dna too so this is this is also a way to just secretly steal everybody's dna without permission same thing with the nasal swabs when they get a little bit of virus on that on that nasal swab that deep cavity swab they're also getting your dna so this is a way to create a dna database of everybody that's why i'm not going to get tested i'm not going to get an antibody antibody test i don't want the government
Starting point is 01:41:35 having my dna so now they're trying to make everyone scared of testing they've already tried this contaminated test narrative which is curiously absent in this episode i don't know what happened in the days couple days since then but he's crying about china sending out contaminated tests and now is not even bringing it up at all which is super suspicious yeah now mike is trying to make everyone scared of getting tested because they're going to take your dna and put it in a database do you not think that anytime you've gotten any kind of blood drawn or anything they could do that nope that was the intention nope god damn it just i'm at i'm at the place now where it's like it's such unreasonable paranoia you idiots mike alex trump whomever contract
Starting point is 01:42:23 covid and then cure it or shut the fuck up i'm done i'm done with all this lies about what cures bullshit what a twist would that be i'd be great if mike adams if they did it great mike adams gives himself coronavirus and ends up becoming the the he tests on himself yeah he does the he does the penicillin and malaria situation he does the whole thing he fucking infects his son and cures him in front of the nobel prize committee becomes a hero for the ages great good or he's a guy telling you to take cow medicine yeah yeah fucking put up or shut up i'm done with this bullshit yeah so the two of them here talk about this is the last sort of thing that they have together and that is they talk about this video that came out on youtube and it's actually kind
Starting point is 01:43:15 of interesting because it it doesn't belong on info wars yet can be used by info wars that kind of thing so alex is going to talk about this a little bit and he's just kind of out of line mike adams thank you so much when we come back you're going to be gone but you pointed this out to be a natural news article i looked it up a bombshell play from nyc icu doctor covered 19 a condition of oxygen deprivation not pneumonia we've got one minute tell folks what's coming up with this because he points out that this this is not pneumonia very important story this emergency physician has noticed that the ventilators are causing the lung damage they're running the wrong methods that ventilators are cut pressure to the lungs because the dogma of the medical system is
Starting point is 01:43:58 thinking that this is viral pneumonia it isn't viral pneumonia it's oxygen deprivation and that emergency physician knows exactly what he's talking about lungs are being damaged by ventilators running the wrong methods that's the story and so what he's saying is they need a big higher oxygen mix they need to run a different method with lower pressure and just support the lungs absorbing oxygen not take over the lungs by forcing them with higher pressure that causes tissue damage that's what he's saying we're going to play with the doctor said i'm sure the left and media matters will say do not play doctors only george soros the nazi collaborator tell bingo loves you take the vaccines thank you mike so this doctor in question is a guy named
Starting point is 01:44:39 cameron kyle sudel um and he put out a youtube video claiming that he's seeing things that indicate that this is not a pneumonia like disease and his recommendation is changing the settings on the ventilators i'm not sure if there's good data to back this up but alex's comment at the end there's really stupid like there is an article in like the new york post and other art outlets about this guy's video and what he's bringing to the table discussing is there a possibility that there is a better treatment than what we've been using it's an interesting perspective but alex thinks that this dude's going to get a ton of pushback because alex gets a ton of pushback for his irresponsible shit i don't know what to make of this doctor and what he's bringing to the
Starting point is 01:45:23 table i don't know i i can't possibly know but the response that i've seen from like non info wars outlets isn't like fuck this guy yeah because it's not him telling you to take dewarmer no it's so it's someone saying there's a possibility that there is a better treatment yeah and he was like is it is is there something to this i don't know we don't know yet but alex thinks like no sorrow is going to shut it down no people hate you yeah people hate you for a very good reason and a different behavior yes absolutely so alex says he's going to play that video as he's going out to break there and he comes back and i expected to hear that video i did not are you sure this isn't how the clip starts it's not like other intelligent people don't
Starting point is 01:46:13 know what we're talking about is accurate they decide to join it's so wrong they decide to join with satan they get scared or they get flattered being offered to be part of the power structure but you know i've always been so high on life that every time i got around the satanist i felt cold and weak i didn't feel strong and so no matter how much danger i'm in or how much i'm being attacked i've got this continual courage from god he was like an hour ago talking about how people should be maybe exterminated bill gates is right because they're dumb that's the courage of god what a dick also i love the idea is like yeah other intelligent people get flattered into things god it's just such a chef kiss kind of moments yeah he's just capable of projecting any of his
Starting point is 01:47:10 failings onto everyone else yeah the other thing one of the other things so like in terms of trends that i've been seeing a little bit one is the flu to cold pivot sure in terms of like discussing the coronavirus as the cold as opposed to as the flu one of the other things i've been noticing a lot lately is alex seems to be getting really fucking profit like lately talking about how god is speaking through him yeah that kind of thing a bit more and this next clip i think is like really indicative of that the smarter and greater my discernment gets and god just goes turn loose i'm in control just just go with what i tell you it's not me it's god and it's it's crazy yes and so i don't look forward to whatever they're gonna do to me because it it gets pretty
Starting point is 01:47:59 outrageous but for every door that closes other doors open there's providence it's a real thing to research providence my friends and and don't be fearful if i kill the body fear he who can kill the soul yeah now this has been sold out for 14 links that um that is unreal that is unreal you were fucking dancing around and like you had a fucking absolute banger and then you delivered god damn that is unreal for those of you who are not in the room i was doing a bunch of religious poses while alex was talking about providence that is hey as my discernment gets better it's not me it's god speaking through me i have this provident now let me tell you this stuff's been sold out for a while god damn just such a harsh pivot look i know you've lost your jobs but you
Starting point is 01:48:59 got a tithe to me because the lord seeds and so on and so forth and paula white cane should be the president i have to assume jesus would turn over a table in alex's oh my god studio i think i think jesus would take that whole non-violence policy and be like i really fucked up on this one guys my bad i'm going to take care of him jesus and then we'll do the non-violence jesus would confiscate alex's rifle so he does end up playing that guy's video don't get me wrong i know i realize that i might have made it sound like he doesn't play he does play but he has no analysis come back with no yeah and he also has no analysis for it that's worth listening to it just turns into like a bit of a bad thing sure and then he plays it right at the end of the show and goes out but
Starting point is 01:49:45 i have one last clip and it's just like alex so he's been trying to sell his zinc obviously obviously and he's been doing it great well i would say that it's been bad but this is even worse like he seems to be trying to tell his audience like hey look man i don't know don't take it from me but doctors have been telling me to take a dangerous level of zinc great zinc sold out everywhere people debate about how much zinc should you take i was taking 30 milligrams a day i talked to a lot of folks and they said no you should take 100 during this virus but i'm not giving that advice doctors are saying if you have COVID-19 250 milligrams i looked that up that's toxic to your kidneys i'm not a doctor i call the doctor back he said well that's true
Starting point is 01:50:33 but he said you know this is so crazy long-term it's bad for your kidneys i would go ahead and do this now just to be safe so wow i'm not giving medical advice they've got the george soros ribs breathing down my neck all yes yeah yeah that is the great moment right there i've got the george soros people breathing down my neck i'm not giving you medical advice as if if they weren't breathing down his neck he would say take 250 milligrams no shit it's dangerous it's dangerous but doctors are telling me hey look dude if you're not giving medical advice don't do this yeah don't have this conversation at all it's useless yeah there is no point to have this conversation outside of some sort of insight you're giving your audience yeah and the insight that you glean from this is
Starting point is 01:51:17 like if you trust alex as a source of information he's talked to doctors who are like hey look this will cause damage but you should take tons of zinc yeah because this is a higher zinc needed time i would fucked up i would be so much fun i would be so much better if all of these people continued peddling their bullshit conspiracy theories continued with all that nonsense but for now the point was like stay home social distance don't do anything fucking stupid i'd be fine with it because at least now we're like we're just gonna do the thing now and then we'll deal with all this shit later stay home but what will really save you is aromatherapy sure great love it but as long as you stay home and social distance you know like that kind of like that kind of shit and i
Starting point is 01:52:09 think you could sell that but i think you could murdering i think you could this i think i would be i am so i think you could yeah i don't i sell popery that helps you relax from the virus now like the fine yeah i don't i don't think i would be as offended by that probably because there would still be like not a contradiction right of what will help right exactly but these guys are this this is tantamount to a fucking it what manslaughter a criminal negligence like i don't know i don't know what else to describe these people like i don't know how else to describe trump as as anything other than somebody who is committing mass scale murder right now should ask like it's insane guys on opening arguments it's insane i well the problem is the law clearly doesn't mean anything
Starting point is 01:53:01 anyways so there's an issue yeah yeah it's it's uh it's tough and one of the things i think is really interesting about this episode in particular and one of the reasons i decided to do an episode about it is that you have the development of the hydrochloroquine narrative into the uh i ivermectin narrative yeah and it's better in terms of like some reality right right it's closer to reality but it's still the same behavior it's still the same reckless utterly irresponsible yeah yeah yeah these uh these dudes to the level of criminal yeah without doubt to the level of criminal regardless of whether or not there is a law that you can use to enforce it this is a crime now jordan what pisses me off the most what's that he didn't talk about q and on well that's tomorrow
Starting point is 01:53:52 i understand or today if you're listening to this yeah yeah yeah i understand but i wanted like if you are building to a pay per view yeah and wrestling it's not like you're going to not talk about the fight you're now you pretend it doesn't happen that's bullshit this is i am alex called q and on out a week ago i know and he has done almost nothing on his show in terms of like building the feud because i think he realizes this is going to be a but a bust i am going to lap up your disappointment like ambrosia tomorrow whenever you realize that none of that is going to happen my disappointment it's going to be fantastic yeah and i'm excited for it don't think you get some sort of shot and fro it out of this i'm not getting shot and fro it out of it not at all i'm saying it's
Starting point is 01:54:42 going to be delicious yeah we will see and we'll be back uh on uh on our next episode where we will deal with alex's big reveal or not uh but until then we have a website we do it so let's write dot com we elsewhere on twitter we are on twitter set now let's go right now go to bed jordan yes we are on a facebook we are a facebook we like to tell you that i just will not try to leave a review rate and donate to the podcast do the whole thing thank you very much the opening arguments for bringing us on etc yeah we'll be back but until then i'm neo i'm leo i'm dzx clark i am patrick holly's diction coach andy and chansas you're on the air thanks for holding so alex i'm a first time caller i'm a huge fan i love your work i love you

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