Knowledge Fight - #422: April 17, 2020

Episode Date: April 20, 2020

Today, Dan and Jordan check in to see how things are on the Alex Jones Show the day after a couple of his employees were suspended from Twitter for trying to promote a rally in the middle of a pandemic. In this installment, Alex spends most of the show building narratives about a specific science fact-checker he's mad at, and the show ends with some very good comedy bits.

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I've been dabbling around listening to some music that I haven't heard a long time. Okay. So I was listening to some Annie Lennox. Love Annie Lennox. All right. All right. Big fan of Annie Lennox. Sure. Sure. But then I just I don't know why but I listen. I started. I listen to the Dune soundtrack. It's good atmospheric music. I enjoy the Dune soundtrack from the 1984 David Lynch film. Do they have any quotes in that one? Yeah. There's some. There's some talking. There's a little bit. Not a ton but a little bit. There's a little bit of dialogue. Now I'm asking you this question. Sure. Do you know who did the soundtrack to Dune the 1984 movie? Was it Trent Reznor? No. No 1984. I know. I'm fucking kidding. God damn it, man. One. No, I don't know who I

don't expect. Brian Wilson. It's a Brian. It's a Brian. Brian Davies. No, I don't know. Eno. Oh, it's Brian Eno. That's the one you'd expect. Yeah. You know who else did it? I Toto the band Toto. Now see that's that's the David Lynch I'm looking for. If he's gonna make Dune Toto is going to do the soundtrack. The guys who brought you a Rosanna and hold the line bring you the Dune soundtrack. What what is closer to Africa than Dune? I think that's the only thing that makes sense. Yeah. Anyway, I listen to the Dune soundtrack and that was fun. Watch the movie Dune. It's good stuff. I don't have time. Sting stings performances. Legendarily quiet time don't have time to read the book. Don't have time for the movie. Plenty of time for the soundtrack.

Fair enough. Fair enough. Toto. What about you? I just did a truth wanted with Daniel Earls at objectively Dan on on Twitter. It was a great time. It was a fun call in show. Yeah. We did a good I think there's a podcast version of it. You can download. It was it was great and a huge thank you to Dan for inviting me on. So for anybody who wants more, Jordan, go check that out. And I do work exclusively with dance. That's true. That's the only rule I have now is if you are at Dan, I will come on. You'll travel back in time and do some MTV remotes with Dan Cortez. That's my plan. Absolutely out of dance Dan rather. Sure. I'll do interviews with Dan. Why not? Yeah and that and now we are officially out of there is no more dance. Nope. So Jordan today. We get an

interesting episode to go over. We're doing a little look at the present day. Still we got April 17th, 20 20. I'm Dan, this is 2020 and we'll get down to that in just one moment. But before we do take a moment to say thank you some folks who have signed up and are sporting show. So first Jeff. Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk. I'm a policy one. Thanks, Jeff. Next Luna. Thank you. So much are now policy wonk. I'm a policy won. Thank you very much Luna. Thank you. Next Edward. Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. I get ready. Thank you so much. Next Brian. Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you. Brian, you know, maker of the Dune Soundtrack along with Toto. Exactly. Next Andy and

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Let's just get down to business. We ain't making that money off that heroin. Why are you pimp so good? My neck is freakishly large. I declare info war on you. Thank you so much, Adam and Laura Joe. Yes. Thank you very much to the both of you. If you're out there listening to your thinking, Hey, I enjoy this show. I'd like to support these gents. Do you can do that by going to our website, knowledgefight.com, clicking the button that says support the show. We would appreciate that. Or if you'd like, please feel free to take that energy and direct it to a local charity in your area, the type of helping people who are affected by the current trouble. Yes, we would appreciate

either. Yes, very much. So Jordan, like I said, April 17th, sure it's going down. It is. It is going down. What's going down? I don't know. Alex is just on some bullshit. So the day before this on Thursday, sure it came out that a bunch of info wars employees got kicked off Twitter. Yes, and by a bunch. I mean Rob do and Owen Troyer everybody, but David Knight, right and Paul, that's right. Paul, Joseph Watson and there's an actual very clear reason for who got kicked off and who didn't. It's not about getting rid of and excising all info wars sure. It has to do with the fact that the two of them Paul or I'm sorry Rob and Owen were actively promoting this protest against the quarantine, sure, sure, the social distancing

measures. Yeah, and it's not the fact that they actually did the protest. It was that they were using Twitter to spread this information. Yeah, yeah, and so they ended up getting kicked off and so I figured hey if that happened on the 16th, the 17th Alex is probably going to be in a pretty fucked up mood. You just had some tendrils chopped off. Oh yeah, little tentacles of getting his word out and so you know it is about what you'd expect and then it's also not what you'd expect and then also it's pretty fucked up. So let's jump in. Here's the first clip. Alex is talking about you know, of course, because these people who work for him were kicked off social media. Obviously there's going to be some social media grievances on this episode. Of course there have been draconian

developments undreamed of just six months ago that have unfolded. Kerry could disagree with you. Twitter, Facebook and Google are now announcing that they're even going to block members of the Congress when they say that the coronavirus came out of the Wuhan lab. They are openly announcing that. I've got all the articles right here. So I have a strong suspicion that he's starting off this way so he can complain about Owen and Rob getting kicked off Twitter, but he wouldn't. He can couch it couch it in this language of universal censorship. Sure that's the way that he can get away with throwing a little titty baby tantrum while pretending that he's mad about something other than his employees just losing their social media account and their

ability to market on Twitter. It's not because of Rob doing Owen Shroyer. That would be petty Dan. That would be petty. It's because they're they're censoring Congress people. The people he respects. I guess it's a couple of Jordan. Yeah. Yeah. So Owen and Robert Barnes have both gone on record and said they have no idea why Owen's account was suspended, but it's super clear. Like I said in the days prior to the suspension, Owen had been promoting his You Can't Close America rally, which took place over this weekend. Sure. According to reporting on media matters, Twitter had announced on March 18th that they were not allowing quote tweets that could place people at higher risk of transmitting COVID-19. And if you think about it for any time at

all, Owen using his account to promote a giant rally in the middle of an active pandemic is basically as clear an example of that as you can come up with. Now, will Twitter apply this logic to Trump? Probably not. But even if their enforcement is less than ideal, it's pretty indisputable that Owen was acting in ways that are directly counter to the rules that had been established by Twitter. They took action and he was suspended. The same is true, most likely, Dewey's account. And like I said, it's probably why David Knight, Paul Joseph Watson's accounts are still up because they weren't explicitly engaging in behavior that would directly lead to people putting themselves and the community at risk. I have no idea what Congress members Alex is talking

about since I can't find any stories about this, even on his completely unnavigatable website. But I would assume that it's just a situation where they're subject to the rules of the platform as well as anybody else. I have zero faith in Twitter's commitment to upholding these rules and considering the Trump literally tweeted out multiple exhortations for various states with Democratic governors to be quote liberated, it's pretty clear that the problem is far past the point where any social media company could even handle it now. It's super clear what the message of those liberate tweets are. But according to NBC News, a spokesperson for Twitter said, quote, the use of liberate in the tweets is too vague to be actionable. When the president of the country

is on social media saying a liberate Minnesota and liberate Michigan and quote liberate Virginia and save your great second amendment, it's under siege. If your rules consider those statements to be too vague to be actionable, then your rules are meaningless and really just sound more like a cop out than anything else. Of course, kicking Trump off Twitter wouldn't be good either and would ultimately likely lead to a far more severe backlash, particularly in an election year. There's essentially no good answer here and the people in a position to actually make a decision like to say that there's no reason they would ever suspend Trump or to apply the rules to him refused to because of the fear of the outcome. Yeah, whatever Alex wants to complain about

his own personal problems, you know, whenever he does that he has a tendency to externalize them exaggerate. When he got his DUI, one of his first responses was to put on his Jonathan Swift hat and suggest that all restaurants should be closed because if you have one drink, you'll get a DUI and that everyone's just getting jammed up. It was a massive societal issue that he was upset about not the fact that he drank and drove and spent the night in jail. This is the same thing is employees got punished on social media and Alex knows that having the lead stories like that like hey, my employees got kicked off Twitter. That sounds weak and petulant. So you reframe it as a story, you know, not about it's, but it's not about your personal interests. It's about the

world. Yeah, that way you can portray yourself as a champion and not a weak loser. It's bigger than me. I mean sure. Remember I'm talking about this because it personally affected me and if it hadn't personally affected me, I wouldn't give a shit about that, but this is me. I'm the butt of the spear, Dan. Yeah, so this is this goes away out of control. You know, I mean like it starts with this, this this externalizing and an exaggerating of his employees being suspended their account suspended, but this turns into like a massive narrative on this show about the who's doing the censoring. Who's Rob doing the censoring? Exactly. They're running national news pieces in Europe, the UK, Australia and Canada telling children, do not trust your parents, watch them

carefully and report them if they say China is behind the virus. That's just good advice. The fact checking group that runs it is run out of Wuhan sure. Sure. The bio weapons lab. I'm going to say that again. The fact checker that runs the science group for Facebook that is used by the other sites works at the level for bio weapon lab and is number two in command. So that's not true. Do most bio weapon labs have like a social media division there or fact checking division to make sure that we need to really do a better job as best we can of pushing back just on the framing and the language. Sure like him calling it a bio weapon lab. We just put up with and just like whatever sure just move along. Yeah, honestly that in itself is terrible. It's a really bad idea.

Yeah, yeah. So the leaving that aside is all bullshit. The real story is that there's apparently someone who works for one of the groups that Facebook uses for fact checking. This person's by the goes by the name of Dr. Danielle Anderson. She's an assistant professor with many published articles on the field of virology and infectious diseases. She's a professor at Duke and US medical school, which is a collaboration between Duke and the National University of Singapore. And it's a very legitimate and accredited school. In her time in the field of virology, she's done some collaborative projects with the researchers at the Wuhan Institute of virology and the Red Wing media is spinning this into the Wuhan lab running the fact checking about the virus,

which just isn't accurate at all. Wow, they are. They are really scraping the bottle of the barrel with that one. Really going for it. Really not giving a fuck anymore. So Anderson was an expert who was consulted by an organization called Health Feedback, which is not owned by Facebook. It appears they're an independent non political entity that fact checks medical claims and then many of the outlets end up using their work as a source because it's solidly produced. Yeah. Health Feedback is one wing of a group called Science Feedback. They also have like climate feedback. Sure. Sure. You know, various science oriented, accuracy organizations. Hey, we're scientists. Knock this shit off. Their website includes a section that lists all their donors

from five dollar donations up to five thousand dollar plus and lists all the grants they've received. As far as things like this go, I've rarely seen this level of transparency from anything else I've looked at. I'm assuming there's tons of a, you know, Koch Brothers funding. I imagine that Mark Moreno works for them from time to time. Like they really have a what now absent from that page. There's no Soros or G money to be found. That's odd in terms of this relationship with Facebook. That's where things get a little bit complicated in April 2019. Science Feedback was approved as one of the entities that helps with Facebook's fact checking, but it wasn't approved by Facebook. Facebook has a pre existing relationship with

a group called Pointer's International Fact Checking Network. Pointer is the group that approves the fact checking entities, which then help fact check stuff on Facebook. If I had to guess, I would say that this arrangement exists. So Facebook can duck as much responsibility as possible for what happens on its platform, which is kind of lame one hundred percent. So the reality is that there was an expert in vi art virology and infectious disease who teaches at a university in Singapore who has worked at the Wuhan lab in the past. She was consulted by health feedback for a fact check on some claims that were made about the lab in Wuhan. This story is now being changed by Alex into a situation where the fact checking is being run out of the Wuhan lab,

which you can easily see as a complete lie. Well, man, if Dr. Anderson were trying to obscure or hide her association with the lab in Wuhan, then you could probably make a pretty decent argument for some kind of conflict of interest, maybe, and it might come off as a bit unethical to use her as a reference. But as it stands, she's completely open about her working at that lab periodically on some project in the very article when she's consulted as an expert, which kind of gives more credence to her. Like that's why you would go to her because she's actually fucking been there or or been in relationship to. I don't know if that's why you would go. No, I mean not why, but it's part of her feedback. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. She brings

it up herself. Personal experience. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's no indication that she runs it right. Any of that stuff. It's just choose someone who is consulted by these people for effect check. And that's how you know it's true. That's how you know it's true. This will take over as Alex's number one narrative. What are we doing on this episode? What are we doing? But there's some things that he gets lost along the way gets a little little sidetracked on because you see 1984 for these guys is a owner's manual. It's an operations plan. That's why Hillary Clinton said famously in the mid 90s when she was co-president, she said, my favorite books in 1984, I see it as a manual. People said, what does she mean by that? Well, she's called

pike underskirt and you're inating directly into your face for how much Yeah, let's put that article back up on screen for folks. So before I get to the point here, I should say that what you just heard there was Alex making a real big show out of drinking from a paper cup and swirling the ice around, gotcha, which is not exactly what I would call in character for him. I've seen him take swigs out of things from like his coffee mug and sometimes he'll have a bottle like Topo Chico on hand, but this is very showy is almost taunting and it worries me a little bit boy. No idea if that's booze. I have no idea, but if it is, we're three minutes into the episode at this point that would spell trouble. Yeah, that's called the beginning of

the work day and it's when you take your first drink down. Everybody knows that I'm not convinced necessarily from the way this episode goes that he was drinking. I'm not. I'm not sure it's possible, but I'm not. I'm not. I'm not sold a hundred percent on it. He does get real weird by the end of the episode, but it's not like it's not definitive in the same way that so many of these others sure. Sure. So as to that clip, first of all, Hillary was not co-president. That's just nonsense. Second, Alex isn't talking about comments Hillary made back in the nineties, and she didn't say 1984 was a how-to manual. That's just a stupid headline that fringe conservative blogs ran with when discussing an excerpt from her 2017 book titled What Happened?

In the book, she writes, quote, attempting to define reality as a core feature of authoritarianism. This is what the Soviets did when they erased political dissidents from historical photos. This is what happens in George Orwell's classic novel, 1984, when a torturer holds up four fingers and delivers electric shocks until his prisoner sees five fingers as ordered. The goal is to make you question logic and reason and to so mistrust towards exactly the people we need to rely on. Our leaders, the press, experts who seek to guide public policy based on evidence ourselves. For Trump, as with so much he does, it's about simple dominance. Alex is making up a Hillary quote, and here's the fun part. I know exactly where it comes from.

There was an article in 2017 about this passage from Hillary's book on the website conservative review, and the headline is quote, Hillary Clinton thinks Orwell's 1984 is a how-to manual. I really don't get where they saw that in the quote. No, it's not. It's not in that quote, and that's where Alex got the idea from. Sure. In the article, if you actually read it, it doesn't include any quotes for saying that. It's just the insinuation of the author of this blog post. His gripe is that he feels that Hillary got the wrong message from 1984 and that her point was to encourage blind trust in the government and media. I think that's a little bit of an unfair reading from the text, particularly considering the last thing in her list of

people we need to rely on our ourselves, but whatever. I'm not going to spend my time discussing this article in any way past saying that this headline is absolutely where Alex is taking his imaginary Hillary quote from. He has neither not read this article at all or he's willfully lying about it. One of the two, you know what's what's what is interesting is that in a sense I agree with the sentence. Nineteen eighty four is a how-to manual. I just think Trump is using it not the other guys. Sure. I think he's saying nineteen eighty four is a how-to manual could be in some context of value neutral. Yeah. Yeah. And the same way is like looking historically saying George Washington was a terrorist. Sure. Like that is not to say that George Washington

was a evil terrorist, right or whatever. You know right. I'm not. I don't want to. I don't want to unpack that right now. Let's just go with Jedi. Sure. Jedi aren't the bad terrorists in this one. Sure. There are ways that you can say something like nineteen eighty four is a how-to manual without endorsing that. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. So that is that's all fine. That's all good. Well, even if Hillary had said exactly like that, which she didn't. It's just a fucking conservative review blog post headline. Our conservatives allowed to review books. Don't they have to not read them in order to maintain their their strength? Isn't it like Samson? Like if they read a book, then they lose their power. They can only read Ayn Rand. Yeah. Yeah.

And if you're weird intended consequences, yeah, you read scousen if you're weird. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So Alex believes that the AP has reported that the virus came from the Wuhan lab, which they and that Danielle Anderson working from the Wuhan lab right is banning stories from the AP that demonstrate. It's it's a whole mess, but that's how Alex gets around forming this narrative. Yeah. The Associated Press reported two days ago knew the virus came from the Wuhan lab, knew it was weaponized, knew it was spreading and they covered it up and then told Trump don't block flights from China. You're a xenophobe. That's the Associated Press. But Facebook has announced AP will not be allowed to be shared on its platform.

And anyone sharing the article will be banned. I'm going to show you those articles here in a moment. He doesn't. Again, this is just Alex misreporting the same AP story that suggested that the Chinese government knew that the virus was more serious as a situation than they admitted publicly for six days between January 14th and January 20th. The rest of the stuff relating to the Wuhan lab is just stuff. Alex read in a Fox News headline and he's trying to disguise it as an AP story because even he knows that AP stories are far more credible than Fox News posts citing anonymous sources that are full of caveats like none of this is certain. Absolutely. Alex wants the audience to think that the mainstream media is reporting on the same stuff he's covering

because he knows that even among it the most strident conspiracy theorists, there's a recognition that real journalists do different work than people like Alex. If Alex says something, maybe you'll believe it. But if the AP reports something, then you know they can back it up. This is the fascinating dichotomy in the paranoid conspiracy world. They hate the mainstream media and yet constantly appeal to it to give themselves credibility when they think they can. Alex further wants the audience to think that this totally legit outlet is reporting this news and censorship has gotten so out of control that if you even post this AP story, you'll get banned. This is the primary function of rewriting his own bands from social media platforms because

saying that they only, you know, they only kicked him off because they knew he was right about all this stuff and even now the AP is saying it, you know, that that kind of thing. None of this is real. It's all just the ramblings of a liar circling the drain, desperately flailing for anything to grab onto in hopes of saving the ship and ain't gonna work. Yeah. Media outlets that rely entirely upon expediency are not good. No, no, but you know it's really funny. Like all this stuff is such a bullshit. It's all it's all tremendous trash bananas. But Alex is so cocky about it. That's the kind of thing I really love. Like he really like is acting like he's got his chest puffed out like I fucking nailed it. God damn it. These people who runs

Facebook's science division runs it and decides what you can say about sink vitamin D hydroxy chloroquine. Who says on Facebook that the president's a liar and there's no hope only Bill Gates can save you. One of the top scientists at the weapons lab. Wow. You can't make this up real cocky. Name two scientists at the Wuhan. I don't know. Would you know if he she's one of the top so you want to top ones? I would need I would need further information on that. I it looks like I forgot to cut out this clip, but Alex is also claiming one of his other big pieces of evidence is that the co discoverer of HIV has come out and said that Alex is using headlines to say that he's saying this was definitely one hundred percent made in the lab. Sure, and that's not

like super accurate even close to well. No, I mean it's kind of true. It's about a guy named Montage Montage Nye who is the disc code discoverer of HIV and he won a Nobel Prize in 2008. He came out in an interview and basically said that if there were HIV pieces inserted into the RNA of the virus, then that would that would not have evolved naturally and it would require lab engineering. Sure. This is all good and well, but as far as I can tell, no one is in any way demonstrated that there are HIV pieces that have been inserted into the Corona virus. Right. The only reference people can make on that is that unpure reviewed and retracted Indian study, which was shown to be seriously flawed. A follow up paper published in February 2020 in the journal Emerging Microbes

and Infections looked at these inserts that were said to be HIV and found quote, our results demonstrated no evidence that the sequences of these four inserts are HIV one specific or the nor the 2019 novel coronavirus viruses obtained these insertions from HIV one. First, the results of the blast search of these motifs against Gen Bank shows the top 100 identical or highly homologous hits are all from host genes of mammalian insect, bacterial and others. They found that these four inserts that are said in the Indian study to be HIV related have a ton of other non HIV sources. Further, they found these insertions are also present in multiple other coronaviruses. So the conclusions reached by that Indian paper were definitely

hasty at least. So basically what you have there is Dr Montagier making an if then statement. If the virus has HIV sewn into it, then it must have been done in a lab. That statement's probably fine, but I dispute the if portion of it in logic when you have an if then statement and the premise is false. You can completely ignore the conclusion. It legitimately doesn't matter what the conclusion is right because there's no truth to preserve through the process of inference. Right. Also, this dude is theorizing that the lab in Wuhan was working on an HIV vaccine and this leaked out, which is not really in line with Alex's bio weapon narratives, but whatever Alex will run with whatever he came to give the appearance of credibility to this dumb shit. Also, I don't

think that Alex should be able to use these guys like the guy who co discovered HIV is some kind of by proxy expert seeing as he doesn't believe HIV is real nor does he believe it. It's connected to AIDS. So you kind of has to believe that Luke Montagier has to be in on the conspiracy, right? Yeah, of course. I mean and that's how you know he's telling the truth because he's lying to us. Can't have it both ways, but Alex really wants to. You can't trust this guy and John Rappaport. Yours can't Dan. You can't have it both ways. I can't have it both ways. The right wing exists outside of both ways. They have it all ways. All they do is hold us hostage with their lies. That's yeah. It's all a bunch of nonsense. Anyway, sorry. I forgot to cut that clip, but I feel

like it's important to point that out a little bit. So not only is this person who heads up the Wuhan lab fact checking Facebook. Dr. Anderson man fake Facebook has really I got to say their staff might be a problem. Okay. The things that Alex is saying. Okay. You know the stars are folks. They're the East German police that were worse than the KGB and in KVD. Yeah, they've hired over 10,000 of them to what Facebook? What we first reported on six years ago. So that's wild. So there's a bunch of 80 year old dudes who were 10,000 80 year old dudes working for Facebook. Run it. So just to be clear, most of the people who would be the right age to have

been in Astazi are dead or are pretty old. I would imagine you'd be hard pressed to find 10,000 Stasi members still alive today, let alone 10,000 of them who are in the kind of shape you need to be in to run a modern tech company, leaving aside how insanely I don't understand this keyboard. What is this doing? It's out of here, leaving aside how stupid that is. It's based on what you might call a kernel of something real. In 2015, the justice ministry in Germany established a task force to look into online hate speech, particularly directed towards immigrants. The goal was to get a sense of the scale of the problem, which they would then use to encourage Facebook and Twitter to take the matter seriously. One of the groups that was

included in this NGO, in this was an NGO called the Amadu Antonio Foundation, named in memory of an Angolan immigrant killed by neo-Nazis briefly after the reunification of Germany. The group's chairwoman is Annetta Kahane, who is a, when she was a college student for a time, she was an unofficial informant for the Stasi. I can't really defend that except to say that I see no indication that she's been dishonest about that part of her past. And since around 1982, when she stopped being an informant, her career of advocacy kind of speaks for itself. In September 2015, Paul Joseph Watson wrote a really misleading article about this task force, tending to imply that it is a body within Facebook, as opposed to a German entity studying the issue

and aiming to advise Facebook. I'll give Paul credit that in the body of his article, he does say that Kahane was a informant, but I'm going to take that credit right back because of the headline quote, ecstasy agent hired to censor xenophobic Facebook posts. That does take away from the informant's recognition and turns it into a she was personally hired by yeah. Anyway, this is where Alex's Facebook is hiring the Stasi narrative comes from. It was one person who doesn't work for Facebook, which is now been exaggerated into Facebook being run by 10,000 Stasi members they've hired. This guy's an amazing liar and you have to be pretty fucking dumb to buy things like this that he says. I can't imagine. I bet look if you said like for former Stasi agents, maybe

maybe I'd be like I mean you don't have to be up with the modern technology. You could direct things. You could people could bring you stuff and then you have them send your emails for you, but 10,000 Stasi agents is like too much. Get the fuck out of here. You're pathetic. Anyway, this is all really just probably an issue for Alex because Kahane is advocacy is surrounding the rising right wing extremism and their agitation towards immigrant communities and you know who makes money off that. Yeah, I do know. Oh no, it's it's Alex. So I got oh no. Why would he choose her as an enemy? So anyway, 10,000 Stasi deep at Facebook. Great. Give me five names. Give me five Stasi. If you want. I don't want to know and that is no. Any of you know any of this shit. That's

but it's not just these 10,000 Stasi agents of Facebook. By the way, I remember seeing that Marcus Wolfe, the former head of the Stasi was hired by the Democrats as a consultant to Homeland Security. He was the head of it. I remember hearing that didn't believe it. It turned out it was true. Well, it was true. I can legitimately find no articles on this that don't trace back to info wars or prison plan. Sure. Sure. That's probably true because the story is not. You know it's true. It's so true. It's too true for the rest of the world even Dan according to a 2004 story that's now mysteriously gone from their websites, though it's still in the way back machine. Paul Joseph Watson wrote about how a political analyst named Al Martin it alleged that Homeland

Security had hired Marcus Wolfe. There's no substantiation of this claim in the article outside of this. Oh, oh, and this line quote sources close to Martin have told Alex Jones confidentially that the appointment of Wolfe was also confirmed by U. S. Congressman. Sure. Sure. How many how many different levels of not talking to anybody is that that's a tell for me that this is bullshit. Yeah. Also, Marcus Wolfe wasn't the head of the Stasi. He was the head of the main directorate for reconnaissance the foreign intelligence wing of the Stasi in 2004 when this would have happened. He was 81 years old and I can find absolutely zero concrete evidence that he was employed by U. S. National Security. Sure. I

mean you could say that right. I tried to figure out who Al Martin is since he's the only real source that this traces back to and spice it to say I was not surprised by what I found Steve Martin's brother. Nope. Oh he has a long dormant website called Al Martin raw where he would write blog posts. But what interested me the most was that he wrote a book called quote shocking secrets of Iran Contra. Al is yet another guy who's claimed he was in on Iran Contra. I was just thinking I was like do you look if you want to talk about that guy. Do you know who you guys hired to run the NRA. What are you people talking about. And of course this guy's also involved in Iran Contra good 80 percent of these ambitious right wing types claim they were mixed up in

Iran Contra which kind of strains my ability to believe most of them to Martin's credit though. He calls himself a quote fourth level player in the the affair. Whatever the fuck that means I like a little modesty. Yeah. At least he's not like I ran it. Yeah. Yeah. Larry Nichols is like I was hanging out with Ali North. All right buddy whatever anyway. I don't believe any of this until they could provide a little better evidence than this weak shit. Also just a small point. Even if all of that is true this happened in 2004 when there was not a democratic administration in charge of Homeland Security and both houses of Congress were controlled by the Republican Party. I have literally zero idea how the Democrats could have hired the head of the Stasi to be

involved in Homeland Security in a period of complete GOP control of all the parts of the federal government. But I guess that's why Alex makes the big bucks. You can imagine that. Didn't you realize how much the Democrats snuck through from the entirely GOP controlled world. They snuck through all kind of stuff ahead of the Stasi. Yeah. Whatever get away with that. That might be the only thing they could sneak through with the right wing running things in 2004. Just like oh you guys want to hire a next Stasi agent for us to work with. Hell yes. Yeah. So Alex in this next clip he's he's talking about how he's going to really get down to business. He's going to really get down to it. And as far as I can tell from listening to the rest of this episode,

the only thing he has to get down to is more yelling about the Facebook sensor fact checker person story. Seems to be the only thing he has to get down to. But he's going to get down to business. Let's get into it right now. I'm totally ready to lay it all out. I'm ready to lay it out to the president. I'm ready to lay it out to the American people, to the people of the planet, to the Pentagon, everybody about the choices we all have to make right now. And I know it's time for you, all of you watching and listening to lay it out as well to your husband, your wife, your neighbors, your church, to the person that screams that you had a gas station because you're not wearing a stupid mask when most of the counties in the United States don't have

one damn case of this weaponized cold. I'm going to lay it out next segment. Okay. All right. So I am anxiously awaiting him laying this all out. He's got 10 pages of all this stuff prepared notes. He's been working on this for years. I'm ready for him to lay it out within 30 seconds. There's like I'm so fucking ready to do this. I'll do it later. Okay. Also, by the way, the you getting yelled at for not wearing a stupid fucking mask. You sell masks, Alex. Pick a lane. You got to choose one. You can't be doing both of this. It's really embarrassing. So anyway, Alex complains about the Wuhan, how the lab, right? They're running the Facebook fact checkers course and starts to worry about like. Why doesn't Trump do something about this?

I mean one because it's not true, but it's still why the Wuhan bio weapon lab and the Chinese operatives running Facebook and blocking the Pentagon and the president and AP saying it came from Wuhan, which is confirmed and I just sat back and asked myself, is the president in an incremental trance not resisting this? Or is he part of it? I'm listening. I know Trump's not part of it. Do you? So he's in an incremental truth. Well, you know what? I think you can handle the truth. So yeah, his conclusion is that Trump thinks that you can't handle the truth. That could be that could be. I say we go back to him being poisoned with his diet coke. Sure. I liked that. That was fun. That was fun. Also, like I just don't get

why you want to continue supporting a leader who you have to question if they're in a trance or evil like that doesn't seem like the sort of person you want to get behind. Yeah, yeah. It seems odd that it's it's a it's impossible for us to find a candidate from either party that couldn't have that question asked about it. It's a constant thing for Alex. He's he seems almost never sure like he's simultaneously always sure that Trump is the greatest and then also like you might be going to might be going to kill us. Okay, so he's my guy. I want him to be an authoritarian leader, but at the same time he's not doing anything that I want him to do, which is why he's my guy. So how is it that I can continue to support him if he doesn't do anything I want him to do,

especially if I'm giving him all of this power. Yeah, I have a plan. Don't care. I'll just yell. Yeah. So Alex gets into some like sort of virus conspiracies here and he's really leaning towards like calling everything a scam and a fraud. Sure. It's all a giant fraud. 80,000 people died of the flu in 2018. Not true. They're not counting anybody new in the last two months. This died of the flu. They always say COVID. It's a hoax, folks. So he's just making things up there. If you go to the CDC's website, you can find plenty of information about the 2019 2020 flu season and there were plenty of influenza related deaths that have happened that have not been double counted as coronavirus

deaths. There's a little truth to what Alex is saying though. It is true that as of April 4th, the CDC's website will not be posting updated flu season burden estimates, but that isn't because there's some kind of a cover up. It's because flu season is mostly over and any updates would be kind of irrelevant. States are continuing to collect their data, which will be used to update and revise the CDC's numbers after the fact. But given that flu season has crested, the CDC's role in this has ended for now. Almost certainly Alex just saw a headline that the CDC was going to stop releasing revised estimates about the flu season sometime after this April 4th data came out and he's just completely unaware of what he's talking about or willfully lying about it. If you

want to find out information about the flu season, all you have to do is look for it. It's pretty available, but Alex isn't interested in information. He wants to pretend that the coronavirus deaths are all secretly just flu deaths being passed off as something else so the globalist can grab power. He should recognize that if he's wrong about what he's saying, which he is, he stands to be personally responsible for the deaths of people who look up to him as a voice of guidance. I really hope that he is ready and prepared to handle that kind of spiritual weight because that is going to be devastating. If he ever has to look in the mirror about that, it would be devastating to non psychopaths, but I just don't think they care. Man. I just don't

think they have it. You better be ready for that to be a lifelong commitment to psychopath. Well, I mean, that's like that's how you become the president. You ever have a moment of clarity and it will destroy you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean that that, you know, if if it were possible for somebody like Trump, we wouldn't be where we are, but Trump could watch people die in front of him and not give a shit. I don't know if Alex is that purely he might not be. He might be too. I don't know. That's possible. I don't know. Yeah, they walk among us. They are day walkers, Dan. So Alex gets to complaining about Bill Gates in this next clip. Apparently Bill Gates wants to rule the world. Sure. Did you know that? Why not? Hitler was put in power by the

British and US intelligence. Sure. Why not? So I'm sitting here knowing who the players are in horror saying Bill Gates is going to take over. He'll be the president of the world. He'll have forced inoculations. You'll have a digital tattoo to travel because he's been saying it and getting it ready for decades. So Alex is presenting that Bill Gates wants to take over the world. Now what is this next clip? This is part two. The Pentagon loves Alex. The president has to understand this and we've chronicled every move of how they operate and what they're going to do next. And I can tell you that and I'm not bragging about this. Sounds like you are Pentagon and intelligence agencies in the White House at

this point are in awe of info wars. How we continue to be way ahead of all. It's because we're not naive. So you got this is the part one and part two part one. Bill Gates going to try and take over the world part to the White House. The Pentagon. They're in awe of Alex. So that's interesting man. You know you put those all together. Alex is in the middle of this weird rant about how evil vaccines are and how Bill Gates is going to take over the world with nefarious vaccines. It's all standard info wars bullshit. However, this rises to amazing comedy when you talk about the being in awe of Alex. The White House is in awe. And that's because Trump said this in his coronavirus briefing on April 17th, the same damn day as this episode.

Yesterday, the FDA announced a new collaboration with United Health Group, the Gates Foundation, Quantigen and US cotton to greatly expand the supply of essential swabs, including a new polyester Q tip type swab for the coronavirus testing. All of these actions will help our testing capability continue to grow dramatically. Oh, what's that? Trump announcing a collaboration between the FDA and the Gates Foundation to help increase our taste testing capability. Keep your enemies closer. Dan doesn't sound like something a guy who thinks Bill Gates is an evil demon set out to take over the world would do. No, no. Maybe he's not in awe of Alex's dumb bullshit. Maybe he is. Maybe personally he is in many ways. I am also in awe of Alex's dumb

bullshit just because it really does seem to never stop. It just doesn't seem to stop. It's a it's old faithful. You make a good point. In awe could be another value neutral statement. Could mean a couple different things. So at this point, Alex takes on another theme that he has throughout this show that is like he's getting real close to just straight up advocating literal war. Yeah, of course. If what I'm saying is true, we have to go to war or these people at the local level, the international level, the national level. And it's a horrible thing. But we're at war and they're attacking us, cutting our economies off. They launched the dam attack. They've been caught doing it. The communist Chinese are now publicly running the censorship in the US. But

suddenly all over the nose. And everybody's kind of like, well, we're all invested in each other. And well, they're everywhere and the Chinese spies are everywhere and the big foundations fund them and can we beat it? And anybody sticks their heads up gets attacked. They're expecting you to not see what this really is in the old but only by full commitment and recognizing it and being honest. Can we president comes out announces this America already senses it. The world already knows we will destroy these people in hours. We can annihilate them now. It's us or them. So we're getting much closer to Alex directly saying we've got to have a world war. Yeah, basically. Yeah. But it's also a local war, too. It's a civil war and world war simultaneously, which boy,

that sucks. You know what? If I were reading 1984 as a how to manual, I would suggest convincing everybody in a certain group that they are constantly and eternally at war with everybody in another group. Right. That's what I would say. If I were reading 1984 as a how to manual, that's interesting. Yeah, sound like Hillary. Yeah, it does sound like Hillary, doesn't it? So Alex goes out to break with this talk of like if Trump comes out and says the truth that I know like if I'm right about this stuff, then we're at war. Yes, like okay, man. You shouldn't be talking like this. Like this is this is so irresponsible. Yeah. Yeah. So he goes to break and he comes back and man he is just rambling about how like I will be destroyed, but my

destruction will be the true destruction of my enemies. Sure. And this goes about exactly how you'd expect people ask me why I live in Austin. That's basically a toilet for California. That's because it's where my family's from. Since it was Mexico. So your family's shit. Don't worry. I won't be here much longer in this city. Everything dies. Everything fails. What's important is that things be reborn and we have planted a lot of seeds, haven't we, my friends? That's the good guy.

All it's done is sow the seeds of its destruction. I can feel God's spirit thousand times stronger than I've ever felt. The awakening has begun. The enemy will push the boulder to the peak of the hill. And as world government stands for a year, it will collapse down on the enemy. And those of us that stand against it through this tribulation will be spiritually like Samson in the temple, though blinded and tortured, the dignity in the end of breaking in and knocking it down. He misses that music. Yeah, that was really helping him out. Think about it. Think about it. These are the times to try men's souls. Let me do this. And I've not been doing this.

Get the fuck out of here. I'm like, I can't continue at this point. So sort of teasing that I can't do the show anymore. He really exhausted himself with that ramble over the sort of overly symphonic music. I don't have the backing music anymore. I don't know. I'm not trying to be dramatic. I can't do the show anymore. All right, man, whatever. I don't think a lot of movies have the good guy give a speech over a fucking God or dammer rung or whatever. My destruction will be there destruction. I can feel it. That's the guy I want to root for. I just love the swing there within like the span of a minute like this.

I can feel the power and all the like I got. I got it. I haven't done this for a while. I'm going to have to let you guys go for a little bit. I had to break. So Alex prays for focus. Sure that I will do my best because I keep trying and I think I've laid out a lot of stuff so far, but not like I wanted to. He has six after I just pray to God to give me the focus and the clarity to hit it with just the facts and just lay out the big dimensions of this without going into a little minutiae like I like to do to prove each little factoid. But it is untenable and outrageous and unacceptable to have the communist Chinese officially given the run of the big five tech companies to censor people all over the world and to ban anyone off their platforms that says

they're going to go out and protest to reopen America. I would at this point if I were there, I like name the five. Yeah name them. Yep easy. Just put a name down just right. Just close your eyes and say anything. The five big companies to be like Facebook, Twitter, Google shit. Is my space still a thing? No. How's IBM doing? AOL still going well shit. Yeah. So anyway, Alex tries to prove in this next clip the Chinese censorship thing and we'll see that it is just this same story about Dr. Daniel Anderson. It's in the news confirmed. You've heard of Twitter and Facebook let armies of Chinese trolls put out this info. But then when you read deeper, whether it's Google, whether it's Twitter,

whether it's Facebook, whether it's Apple, they have over the divisions, the Southern Poverty Law Center, the ADL, Media Matters, Snopes. But now they're giving way to the Communist Chinese party and are actually in there heading up the divisions with armies of Chinese and AI watching what you do. I would phrase that differently. This is public news. Look at this headline. Facebook fact checker worked at Wuhan Biolab ruled out virus leak while debunking articles and she's the head of Facebook science. You know, they have their media, their culture, their sports, their, well, she's over all science news on a platform with how many members does Facebook have only 3.4 billion? Check that.

So I want to clarify something in case it's not clear already. Dr. Anderson, the person who's done some work at the Wuhan Institute of Virology, is not employed by Facebook. Dr. Anderson is not in charge of Facebook science, whatever Alex imagines that is. As for the people who are trying to say that her work at the Wuhan lab is somehow a conflict of interest, again, I have to stress that in her comments about the assertion that this virus originated at that lab, she brings up the fact that she worked there. She's very, very transparent about it, saying, quote, I have worked in this exact laboratory at various times over the past two years. I can personally attest to the strict control and containment measures implemented

while working there. The staff at WIV are incredibly competent, hardworking and excellent scientists with superb track records. This doesn't work well for Alex's narrative, because he needs this to be an instance of China being in charge of this internet censorship, not just an instance of someone who had done some work at the Wuhan lab being consulted in an effort to assess the accuracy of an editorial column in the New York Post. And why does Alex desperately need that right now? It should be pretty obvious. Owen and Rob do just got kicked off Twitter and he can't possibly accept that it was the result of them trying to start a mass rally in the middle of a pandemic. It has to be because

China is secretly in charge of social media censoring. So it's just very lame, desperate. Yeah. Also, there are about 2.5 billion Facebook users. Alex is off by about a billion, but who gives a shit? Yeah, that doesn't, it doesn't swing me either way. 2.5 billion is still too many. Yeah, it's a lot. Yeah. So anyway, this story just keeps going. Like he, this is all he wants. That's all he's got. Yeah, it's all he's got. Show you some of the articles right here. I've got Facebook fact checker worked at Wuhan bio lab ruled out virus leak while debunking articles. And then you read the article at info wars.com by Steve Watson. It turns out she runs Facebook science.

And she just so happens works in the bio weapons lab. What do you think the chance? Oh, it gets Bill Gates grants. It's just always the same group. It's a very small group. So this is very, very clearly Alex's number one story. He's hitting this thing so fucking hard. I'm getting annoyed by it. However, in this clip, he claims that there's an info or his article that somehow proves that Dr. Anderson is in charge of Facebook science. So off I go to look that dumb article up. There are actually two articles up on info is about this story. One is just a reposting of a story about it on zero hedge and the other is by Steve Watson, who I sincerely thought had quit or died. Yeah, I did too. I haven't heard that name in quite a while

and I'm very sad to see him still doing this bullshit work thought he'd grown up. Maybe he got fired from his real estate job or something like that. I could be all this information in Steve's article about Danielle Anderson is just ripped directly from the zero hedge article. So it's barely even a new blog post. Neither article in any way demonstrates that Dr. Anderson is in charge of Facebook science fact checking. That's just completely made up even if you accept everything in these dubious sources. I think that what must be happening is that Alex doesn't read the realize that science feedback is the name of a separate business. Yeah, he just thinks it's a department of feedback related to science within Facebook

exactly. That would explain at least part of the confusion, but even that doesn't explain the assertion that Dr. Anderson runs science feedback. That's just not true and his article and in for is even includes a link to science feedbacks website, which lists their team, which doesn't include Dr. Anderson. This article doesn't show any of this stuff. It nor does it show Gates funding that none of it's supported by the evidence that he's providing at all for Alex to present this kind of information. He has to either be consciously making things up or he has to do so little work that he just sees the words like science feedback and assumes that he knows the whole story. Either way, this is a scary level of unpreparedness. He's showing as it relates to

his clear lead story. Yeah, like this is his lead story. Yeah. Yeah. I could also see him just reading it and saying science feedback and then just transposing it as that is like science Facebook. Yeah, that works. Yeah, that's fine. Sure. And it's always about the same people, Alex, because you always make it about the same people. Yeah, you're just fitting the same people into completely different things and saying that. See, look, this makes sense. Yeah. Of course, you can make it always about the same people. Yeah, you just make stuff up. Exactly. Super easy. So Alex gets to this next slope and he seems to be hinting at some trouble. There's a lot of things going on behind the scenes and a lot of things I can't tell you about right now. But let's just say this.

The enemy knows and that's why they want us off the air. But everybody knows that I'm unfiltered and just tell you what's going on. And all this is public too, but we told you before it came out. So can you imagine what the Pentagon and the White House think about info wars right now? That's why we can be taken off the air at any time because they don't want this source of information to the president. But it's okay. You know how things work. And no matter what happens to me, you're going to continue on. We know who did the bio attack. We know it was the deep state with the chai comms against America to kill the economy. So Alex is deeply insinuating there are things going on behind the scenes and he might be off the air anytime now. So about

that it came to my attention thanks to a listener named Rashaan over the weekend that Alex has a gigantic legal battle going on that we've not heard about at all. When he was out of studio over the past couple days, it seemed like it might have had something to do with the FDA or possibly his DUI. But now that I've reviewed some court documents from Pacer, I really think that there might be a completely different hidden picture going on here. Back in January 24th, 2020, Alex's ex-wife Kelly filed a petition in bankruptcy court. She was making a claim of involuntary bankruptcy and requesting relief under Chapter 11. A claim of involuntary bankruptcy is one where a party who is owed money can file a petition to get that money they're owed. And if

the party that owes the money can't pay it, they can be forced into bankruptcy involuntarily to pay the debt. According to court filings, when they got divorced in 2015, Alex testified that he could not afford to pay the money that she was awarded in the divorce. So he signed a real estate lien, which promised Kelly a certain amount of money related to their shared property, as well as 10 percent of the value of, quote, the business is created during the Jones's marriage in the state of Texas. I'll just read to you here from the filing that Kelly put into court. Quote, the note requires Alex Jones to make monthly payments to Kelly Jones in the amount of $43,933. Monthly? Motherfuck! When Alex Jones defaults in any way, the note may be accelerated by Kelly

Jones. It goes on to say that on June 28, 2019, Alex stated that, quote, he would not pay the entirety of the July 2019 note payment and that he would not pay part of the August 2019 note payment. I can't possibly claim to know whether or not Kelly's claims are accurate, but she's alleging in this filing that Alex defaulted on paying her for a promissory note in the amount of $786,861. I got to marry somebody I hate who's rich. That's what I got to do. That's what I need to do. For some context, that's approximately 32,786 bottles of Alex's vasobes. That's a lot of sales to make that up. So Alex naturally tried to get this case dismissed, and a hearing was scheduled for March 11th. Interestingly, March 11th was one of those

days that Alex happened not to be in studio last month. He hosted the first little bit of the show, then Owen took over. When we covered that, the feeling was that he had just gotten a letter from the New York Attorney General about his silver sales, and he'd just gotten DUI. So it looked like what was going on was, you know, he had these desperate sales pitches going on. But maybe it was, you know, maybe what was really going on was that his ex-wife was suing him for three quarters of a million dollars. Have you seen uncut gems? No, it's the most reason. It's Adam Sandler's most recent movie. I'm aware that I haven't yeah, and it's just like I watched it. It's just one nonstop guy going from a creditor to creditor trying to handle all this money and move it around so he

can finally pay everybody off. But with his gambling addiction, he's trying to gamble his way back into more money the whole time, and it's just a constant like non. So it's so stressful to watch this movie because you're like just pay a bill and stop. I got really stressed out, not maybe not the same level, but like looking at this stuff. Yeah, is really like Oh God, adding, adding all of this plus the FDA plus the AG plus is his current Sandy Hook lawsuits plus all of the other shit. It's like this dude is racing around from one nightmare to another. Yeah, but this one might be the big one. Yeah, so he Alex left the show and Owens hands on March 11th and then they had this hearing. But prior to that on the night of March 9th, Alex got arrested for his DUI. And the

next day, Kelly filed an emergency restraining order on the grounds of child endangerment to get their children out of a clearly chaotic environment. On March 11th, Kelly filed an emergency motion for clarification of the law. You see, she's representing herself. So she was requesting the court inform her if there was a conflict between the pending involuntary bankruptcy case and this emergency protective restraining order. She was worried that the bankruptcy case would preclude her from being able to file the restraining order. And in this motion for clarification, she makes it very clear that if it would, she would automatically dismiss the bankruptcy case. Yeah, a document like that is a real testament to her priorities. And in this horrible world of

Alex that we spend our time in, I couldn't help but be a little bit moved by the fact that she was willing to completely dismiss this case. Yeah, if it meant that it would impede her ability to try and get her kids into a safe environment, my kids are worth more than three quarters of a million dollars. I mean, it's such a low bar, not to say that, you know, not to impune what she like her at all. No, no, no, because of how many monsters we talk about like that alone is like yeah, that means you're human. Thank you Jesus. Yeah, so on March 11th, they had their hearing and the court decided that Kelly's cases were not in conflict and she would not have to withdraw her bankruptcy case in order to file the protective order. The court also dismissed Alex's motion

to dismiss the bankruptcy case. With the court determining that there was a legitimate dispute here, they set a trial date of April 23rd, 2020. This will be a quote evidentiary trial on the merits of the involuntary petition and to determine whether to enter an order of relief against the alleged debtor Alex to dismiss the involuntary petition or to enter any other appropriate order. I normally might have considered something like this to be an element of Alex's personal life, which I generally err on the side of not covering since it involves his divorce. And ultimately, it's not about his worldview or rhetoric. It's just a dispute about his payment or non payment of money he owes his ex-wife.

But I'd like to explain a couple reasons why I decided to bring this up on the show. In the past six months or so, Alex has been way, way more fatalistic on earth than I've ever seen him be before. He's been finding himself talking about quitting and recognizing that the end might be near in ways that I don't find to be similar to other periods of his career that I've looked at. Many of the things that he's dealing with could be what's driving that from his supplement warnings to his upcoming Sandy Hook trial. There's a lot for him to worry about and a lot of various things that you could think might be what he's worried will sink the ship. I've considered all the dynamics at play and I've become fairly convinced that this pending trial with his ex-wife

is what's been motivating most of Alex's behavior over the past months. Let me walk you through that reasoning. According to her filing, the notification of non payment from Alex came regarding the July and August note payments back in 2019. You would assume that talk of filing a lawsuit over these defaulted payments wouldn't happen immediately. You know, there's probably some grace period. Yeah, so there's probably a pretty good chance things were normal for a little while. Early September 2019 is when we started to hear Alex repeatedly have breakdowns where he was talking about how in force might not make it another year and how he didn't know if he was going to reorder supplies. Some of that definitely could have been about his need to sell out stock,

so he wouldn't have to pay taxes on carried over inventory. But if you recall, he talked a whole lot about selling his house. This is interesting because the debt that Alex has to Kelly is secured by liens on two properties that they had. And if Alex was found to be in default of his debt, one way it could be paid is by foreclosing on that property. Alex knows that these houses are what is used to secure his debt. So if he knew that he wasn't making payments, it would stand to reason that he knew it was only a matter of time until he lost his house. January 24th was the day that the bankruptcy filing was made. And there are a couple of interesting things that come from looking back at that show. The first is that Alex couldn't start the show on time that day.

And when he did come to the mic, this is how it started reading all the news and all the information. This is probably one of the first times that I just physically could not go on air at the start of the broadcast. And you know, there really just comes a time when the world's just going to have to be judged. He's in a pretty fucked up head space of doom. Yeah. Yeah. And that day and very much projecting his own judgments sooner or later. I'm going to have to be judged now. Interestingly, that was the episode where Mike Adams declared it over for humanity and Alex might write along with him right. That's less relevant to Alex's mental state because it was coming from Mike. But what we pay less attention to about that episode in hindsight is the other

guest that was there that day, John Rappaport. I've noticed that Alex doesn't really bring John Rappaport around much these days except when he needs a bro. I've long suspected that Rappaport is hypnotizing Alex, but maybe it's a benign kind of trance where talking to Rappaport really does make Alex feel better. On this episode, it really did deteriorate into Alex kind of needing some therapy from John about identity issues. God is free will. So how do you open yourself up to God but not to bad stuff and just say, because if people open yourself up to God, I could instantly just like connect to it. I'm going to be arrogant here on air and do it. But the point is I can instantly just be in that place the most time that David talks about in the Psalms. How do people

begin that journey? I guess not going to a fake church that knows they're seeking God and sucks How do you do that? I think you recognize that you're you. You're an individual. You're not existing by virtue of the fact that you're hooked up to other things and people and so forth. That's not the the source of your exactly. You don't need Facebook, Goldman Sachs. You need you. You need you. If you start there, you're going to go on the path. He's getting this like real. Yeah, that's 100 percent therapy. He was fucked up and many John Rappaport interviews are that way like Alex really somehow just like needs Rappaport to set him right about things and he was deeply fucked up about identity

issues on this episode. And of course it ends with one of my favorite clips. John Rappaport, you got to come on more than once every six months. Please come back on next week. We love you. No more fake news.com. You're a beautiful soul. We love you, John. We love John Rappaport. Thank you so much. Thank you, Alex. Thank you so much. Alex loves John Rappaport. Alex loves John Rappaport. Yeah. So after this point, Alex goes back to normal for a bit. There aren't so many instances of him saying that everyone's going to die or the world is bound to be judged. But I think that there's there wasn't any real reason for Alex to be too worried after the immediate situation since he was going to and did file his motion to dismiss the case. So the

ball had been successfully kicked down the road. Yeah. For now it's just normal ass info war stuff and there's you know there's you know the one thing though is that there's dramatically increased sales pitches surrounding the food buckets and his silver right then that is when everything went through the roof. That's it is. So this point at this point he's engaging in the coronavirus as he might with any other sort of completely made up and zero stakes conspiracies that he engages in. On January 31st he's freaking himself out about Resident Evil memes to give you some sense of how seriously things were being taken at that point. For a while stuff is just info wars business. The coronavirus narrative takes some twists and turns. In late February,

Alex gets distracted by Roger's sentencing and then he launches into a full on publicity stunt about going to CPAC and associating with Nick Fuentes. Kelly had until March 5th to file her response to Alex's petition. So Alex up till that point she doesn't file. He assumes he'll get kicked out. Yeah. She doesn't file on the 5th. She ends up filing on the 6th but it was still accepted by the court given the coronavirus situation making things difficult for everyone. So by March 6th Alex had a good reason to think this wasn't just going to magically go away and he knew that the hearing was on for March 11th. On air things aren't too different but on March 10th he does his show after a night in jail for a DUI. On March 11th Alex only hosts the first

part of his show before Owen takes over. If you recall most of the part Alex hosted was about his vaso beats and how they have nitric oxide in them which Alex thinks is nitrous oxide. Also this is the show that he ends his segment of his when he's hosting before he leaves by surprising everyone with free shipping which you swore he'd never do again. Things get pretty complicated at this point because by March 12th two things have happened. One is that he's learned from this court that his motion to dismiss was rejected and he'd have to go to bankruptcy trial. The second is that he received the letter from the New York Attorney General ordering him to cease and desist from the sales tactics he was using surrounding his silver. March 13th on his show is a complete

breakdown. He started talking about how we're all dead already. He got really mad at callers. He promised to hit himself on air if he didn't take enough calls. He started rambling about how easy it was to kill other people and notably he ends the show predicting the imminent end of his show. I feel like I've almost completed my mission. I feel so exhausted. The Holy Spirit does his patent on that saying he did a good job son. I think something really big and bad is about to happen and I think I may be taking out at least off air very soon and I don't say that to be dramatic. I want to tell you I love you and I appreciate you but there's a lot of big stuff going down. Maybe that's going to change but Trump is set any minute to declare an actual emergency.

It was already declared three weeks ago. There was no show on the 14th because it was a Saturday and Alex didn't do his show on March 15th 16th or 17th but by the time he got back the coronavirus situation had developed to the point where things were so crazy that it's legitimately impossible to discern what input is leading to what output from Alex. Since then we've seen Alex increasingly be unable to do his show. He's left the show on a number of occasions. He's descended into rants about how the public deserves to be exterminated. He's gone out to break yelling things but I was listeners were going to burn in hell only to come back from commercial and apologize. There's something very serious up and this case seems like a possible candidate for what it is.

I could be entirely wrong. I admit that entirely but I think that this timeline somewhat suggests that a large secret contributor to Alex's complete inability to do his job. His frequent dalliances into thoughts of impending doom and his notable recent absences could be this bankruptcy case that he's doing court for this Thursday. Jesus. This is another reason I wanted to discuss this a little bit. I have no idea how the case is going to shake out but there's a real possibility that this week could end with Alex losing a massive settlement that could stand to bankrupt him. I would hate for that news to break and have just been sitting on this information and not discuss it. At the same time it's entirely possible that the court will decide in Alex's favor or the trial

could go on longer than one hearing or Alex could lose and appeal the decision. I have no idea what's going to happen but the more I looked at the timeline of this stuff the more I saw possible overlap. Please though just take this as a possible thing. Definitely not something that I'm claiming as definitive. Most of the things that you can see that line up as being possibly Alex responding to things in this case could easily be explained by other things. Yeah like the New York Attorney General's letter coming right at the same time that his motion to dismiss was rejected. He's kind of got so much chaos going on in his life right now that it's almost pointless as an exercise to try and figure out what contributes to what but I thought that if we had some information

about a case that could possibly wreck Alex it's worth discussing. Yeah also small point. My birthday is this Friday day after Alex's trial so if the universe really wants to give me an amazing present I think they know what I want. I think it's I think it's sad a little bit for Alex because I don't think he's capable of that that clarity that comes whenever everything is just too bad. Like it seems like this has been my experience. Probably not until it's too late. Yeah. Yeah. Whenever I've been in a situation where it's like just one thing after another everything pisses me off until it gets to that point where I'm like this is just so bad. I don't even I can't even feel. I can't even feel angry about this. I just have perfect clarity of how

I'm going to be fucked and I just got to live through this and he just cannot do that. Maybe maybe off air he does. Could be. I don't know. It's so impossible to tell because of that. DUI would suggest other that was one of the things that like really seemed in the timeline to be like but it's a right smack dab in the middle of him realizing he has to go to court and the day he has his hearing. Yep. Like it's so right there. It's it's really difficult though. It's it's it's almost impossible to say anything but I haven't heard any like real talk of this case. Yeah. Yeah. And like there's a lot of stuff in it that does veer too much into the personal which is like I don't I don't think we have any business covering. So in this next clip

Jordan yes sir back down to business. Okay and Alex is talking about how he's right about everything but because he's right about everything Trump won't say the same things Alex does because that means war. The very people that created the virus gave it to China released it covered it up got it over here are now blaming President Trump. It's a script and we're just following it but it's so diabolical. It's so evil. It's so ridiculous. The Pentagon keeps going. We don't think it's been made. We don't think it. China did it on purpose because if that's true we got to we got to go to war with them. And I understand that President Trump. I keep forgetting to put this on. I'm going to rebroadcast for a while. Let's do that because this thing's been off for a while

and I just need to get my earpiece back in. So he's saying that Trump needs to say the same things as him even though that means war and then in the middle of a thought he's like my earpiece isn't in. I'm going to go out there. How little does he care about the seriousness of the topics he's covering? This is insane. I'm just going to leave you with that little tidbit of I think we should be at war with China. I got to get off air real quick. Yeah, no it's my earpiece. Can't put it back in on air. It's so hard to find. Wow that's that's shocking. So no more half measures though. It's time to go to war. Okay yeah. Playing games and half measures and being politicians and playing patty cake with this is going to get us destroyed.

So the old rules of being chicken necks and being cowards is over. Were you being that? Let me just do this because when things are really bad and really crazy and really insane people need to be prepared and ready. I tend to get in the mode where I don't even talk about things that we could at least do. If you don't have firearms and ammunition, you better get them. I don't sell firearms and ammunition. If you don't have water filtration, you're insane. You need high quality water filtration. The Alexa pure and the sisters we have are excellent. I think they're sold out. So what's the point of plugging them? You should just try to get them somewhere. Alex knows damn well that Alexa pure water filters are not sold

out because they can never really be sold out because he doesn't actually keep them in his warehouse. If you go to his website, you'll immediately learn that he doesn't really sell Alexa pure filters. They're a product that he sells through my patriot supply, his survival food sponsor. They also sell the Alexa pure. Sure. Alex doesn't handle my patriot supply as orders. He said on many occasions that they take the orders directly from Alex's website and they go to my patriot supplies fulfillment center and then they ship it from there. Obviously this would be needed to sell any of the food buckets at any kind of scale because no matter how big a space Alex is renting, he couldn't possibly afford to have a warehouse big enough

for bulk food and water filtration systems. And this is spelled out on his website shipping information quote to ensure quality and reduce costs. This item ships directly from the supplier. If you purchase additional items, they will be shipped separately in order for Alexa pure water filters to be sold out. It must be true that my patriot supply itself is sold out of water filters and in that case, it makes no sense to say they're great. Just try and find them somewhere. It's not real. This is an involuntary reaction for Alex to say things are sold out or near sold out because that creates the perception of artificial scarcity in the listener's mind. It's a pretty old school manipulative sales tactic and what you know what you're selling

isn't the product. It's what you're selling is the fear that you might be unable to get said product and won't you feel done then? You're out of chance. You're thinking about this lexus. This is a great car. I don't know if you're not on the fence. Let me just tell you already. Let me just tell you right now. This one on the lot. It's the last one we haven't. I have two people coming in later that already said they want to buy. Hold on. I'll talk to my manager. I'll see if I can look. We might be able to get free shipping on this. I said I would never get free shipping to lexus is before. Generally, I don't believe Alex when he says things are sold out or near selling out, but typically I can't really do anything to confirm or deny his claims. In

this case, however, it's a clear cut instance of a complete lie. So we got a new water filter. What is that? How you prove that they're still in stock? You know, but I did. I did go to the website. I did go to my Patriots play. They're still in stock. Of course, but you got to get this food, right? You got to got to get the buckets got to get the water filters because it's four to six months. You're going to need that food. It's time to fucking bug out. Yeah. And I got stuff. I bought from them 12 years ago in my attic and I got stuff. I bought six months ago before all this kicked off in my garage and when I went out to the place we've set up in the country, it took a bunch of this out there because I don't want to evacuate. It was

one of the worst things I ever did. I just felt terrible doing it to even have to start preparing for the total collapse. It must be in taken off the air and knowing that that is now a real possibility and that we're at that point and I'm not going to lie to you, but I have never been more disgusted. There's a lot of folks like to get into prepping and they feel kind of selfish. They've got their cabin in their woods and it's kind of romantic and everything. But for me, because I'm on air and all this to think that we may get our asses kicked at least in this round have to shut down and and then they're going to start arresting everybody during that. And it's just just to watch America on its knees makes me sick. I don't really want to go down this road, but

I got to tell you now, folks, you definitely want to get food to supplement yourself into the future and you want food that's easily transportable and that you've got ready to go and there's not going to be any currency out there more valuable than food. So get my food money. Yeah, this is pretty do do me. Yeah, now let me let me follow his logic real quick. Okay, there's no currency that will be more valuable than food right. So you should trade your money for my food. Uh-huh well. He doesn't actually have the food. That's true. That is true. I will give them that he's the middle man. Yeah, this future currency. I'm just saying that it would make more set from an investing standpoint. Well in the past you would have said gold. Yeah, he doesn't have a stake in

that right now. So yeah, yeah, no more. Hey, the bottom is going to fall out. The total societal collapse summer of rage come and get gold. Yeah, none of that anymore. Why it's pointless exactly you gotta get food because the globalists are at war with us and food is the answer. Globalists are engaged in economic and cultural war against us and they're using this overhyped virus as the pretext to make themselves the saviors and if you don't give them all the power and all the control over your life, you're the bad guy. Well, the answer is give yourself power and control over your life and at least get that three month supply of food and have that in your attic or in your basement or wherever as a supplement into the future knowing it's contained,

it's ready. It's easily transferable. If you got a bug out, you're not putting stuff in paper bags or plastic bags and put the back of the truck. You're putting it in waterproof plastic tote containers and you're ready to boogie out ready to boogie out. You say oh boy. Okay, I don't like that. No, it's not great. So Alex gets done with his dumb very extended sales pitch and he wants to let you know that he's going to drop the ultimate smoking gun that China is doing this censoring or something. Is it a homeless man with a computer chip in his arm? It was God if he gets kicked off the air before doing that, I'll be furious. That's like one of those. That's his last episode. That's what he should do. That's one of those like things again. Sometimes there

will be story lines going in the wwe and then someone gets fired and never get the end of the story. That's brutal. If Alex fucking stops doing a show without doing that surgery, I'm going to be furious. I really don't want to have to say that Alex's show was canceled too soon. So a smoking gun. Yeah, all of this is incredibly important, but I want listeners understand something. This is life and death. Okay. Okay. I want to lay this on the White House and on Trump's lawyers and on the Pentagon and on everybody else. Dramatic action is the only way out of this. Leveling with the people is the only way out of this. That we're in a total war with globalist criminals allied with the Communist Chinese

who developed the virus, prepared the propaganda, prepared the TV shows, the movies, the tabletop exercises with governments that literally spent hundreds of millions of U.S. taxpayer money through Bill and Melinda Gates. They don't ever spend their own money. Oh, you're such a philanthropist, such a sick joke, to pre-program the response you're seeing that is the takedown of the industrial world. Something that thousands of bombers couldn't do with conventional munitions. Prepare yourselves for the ultimate smoking gun. Smoking gun is just him covering that story about the fact checker again. Is it? Yeah. Really? Yeah. Why am I being prepared for that? I've already prepared for it. He's already done it. It's already over. Yeah. It's like if I've

already eaten all the food, I don't need. I've already prepared for this. Yeah. He just covers the Dr. Danielle Anderson story again. Although in this run through the story, there's actually a couple of added elements couple lieutenant colonels. No, no, just a couple of added details where Alex is missing nuance. When you look up Dr. Danielle Anderson, what do you find at Duke in U.S. medical school? She helped develop the test kit for COVID-19 that's now set to make over 200 billion dollars. The very lab that released it developed the test kit. How convenient. Fake laugh. Yeah. So we have two claims being made there primarily. First is that Dr. Anderson is involved in the development of COVID-19 test kits. And the second is that she stands to make a ton of money from it.

Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security has a list up on their website of all the tests for COVID-19 that are currently used or are in development. And if you want, we can take a look through all of them. There are currently four tests that have been approved for diagnostic use in the United States. Nine that have been approved for diagnostic use in other countries, but not here. 26 that are quote approved for research and surveillance purposes only, and eleven more that are currently still in development. This alone should give you a pretty good sense that there isn't really a race to make this test in order to corner the market. There are a lot of people working on a very similar goal. No one's going to make two hundred

million dollars, two hundred billion dollars. Pardon me. Yeah, people might make two hundred million dollars and that's possible. Fine. One of the tests that is not used in the United States was developed at the Wang lab, which is a part of the Duke and U.S. in Singapore. This test is only used in Singapore and it's for antibodies to the virus. The test was developed by Professor Wang Linfa. And though it took a while to find evidence that this was the case, it is actually true that Dr. Anderson did collaborate with him on it. In a March interview with NUS News, Professor Wang said, quote, in my research with Assistant Professor Anderson, we were are working towards making our serological test. That's great. So I guess this is kind of

a half truth being used to create a whole lie. Yeah, Dr. Anderson is involved in the development of a test at Duke and U.S., but there is no reason to believe that she's motivated by profits or that she stands to make billions off of it. If Alex wants to complain about that, he should start with Selex or Kem bio, who are the two companies that own tests or two of the companies that own tests that are approved to be used in the United States. This is a big zero in terms of a conspiracy. Her test is not even approved in the United States. No, just in Singapore. Cool, Alex. Thanks for that. Just because, uh, man, it's I'm good for her. I'm glad she helped develop the test. Yeah, it's great. I don't say anything wrong, but I'm not taking into account the fact

that she fucking runs Facebook along with 10,000 stars. You're right. There you go. I forgot she runs Facebook and decides who can say what and she works high level at the bio weapons lab on record and she has the big global test that it turns out says all cold bugs are COVID-19 to get a higher rate. Oh, when did it do that? Death as COVID-19 when it's not. So you talk about no wonder they want to censor everybody because they can't handle anybody studying who they did. You're all caught. So that must be why they want Alex off the air because no one can handle the level of truth and investigation he's bringing to the table. The globalists just have no rebuttal to this

high end truth coming out of the info wars. They just shut it down. So the first claim here is that Dr. Anderson runs Facebook's fact checking, which you've already discussed in detail and it's not true. The second claim is that this test that she was involved in developing in Singapore is designed to make people with colds test positive for COVID-19. This one's actually really interesting. I mean, obviously it's not true, but to which it's not true is actually impressive. Okay. According to an article in the Straits Times, an English newspaper in Singapore, the development of this test was actually very difficult for exactly the reason Alex is suggesting. This is a serology test that looks for antibodies against COVID-19. So it's important that they

actually find the exact antibodies or else this test is kind of useless. As it turns out, Singapore is kind of the perfect place for that kind of thing to be developed primarily because the country was hit hard by the SARS outbreak in 2003. So there's a lot of people who have antibodies for SARS in their body there. SARS and COVID-19 are both coronaviruses and according to Dr. Wang, they're approximately 80% similar. So the challenge he faced was to develop an antibody test that was so precise that it wouldn't bring up false positives if it was used on someone who had antibodies for SARS in them. They came up with a screening test that was approximately 90% accurate and is very quick as well as a quote gold standard test that takes four to five days in a level three

biohazard lab, but is supposedly completely accurate. What's important here is that the test developed in Singapore is actually the worst possible example Alex could come up with when he's randomly trying to accuse people of creating a test that will just call any cold COVID-19. The team of researchers set out from the jump with the awareness that they would have to create a test that doesn't create false positives for very similar antibodies, which they appear to have achieved. Anyway, no one, the imaginary globalists least of all are worried about the alleged truth that Alex is spreading on air. I think people want him off air because he's an unstable narcissist who seems to be drifting deeper and deeper into calling for a simultaneous civil and cold war

curiously right when his own personal life is falling apart. That's someone who leaving politics aside should not be on air is only the danger. It is it is like he correctly identified the problem and then just assumed it was insurmountable. You know like the antibodies yeah. Of course, it would provide false positives because you're like okay that is a good start and smart people caught that before you right. That's why no one's afraid of you. If you have a thought somebody first buddy the common cold is less similar to COVID-19 and SARS is yeah and if they're considering SARS in terms of this test, which again isn't globally used. No, no, I don't know. I don't know what Alex is trying to prove here, but it's all bullshit. I think he's proving himself

wrong. So earlier in the episode Alex was complaining about parents or children being told to like confront their parents about misinformation and stuff and he doesn't really get around to explaining what that story is about until later and so now we get into that and man holy fucking shit this falls off the rails. Ladies and gentlemen from Australia to the United States to Canada they are calling for people to get in their parents faces during kids at home on government programming and CNN has played to all the public schools first period, first seven minutes they're doing a tube saying does your dad say it came from Wuhan lab? Well get in his face and send him a definitively from Danielle Anderson. I'm not kidding.

And they don't tell you she runs the lab or has the test for it that says all coronaviruses are COVID-19 to create the hysteria. These people are ridiculously obvious and stupid. First thing I would say is this name has never come up on Alex's show before and yet she seems to be the master over all areas of so maybe that's maybe that should be a red flag. She's behind George Soros. Did you know that? Yeah Dr. Impson. Soros isn't even a doctor. Now you know how evil she is. She has a degree. Yeah. How'd you fuck this up? Yeah. Didn't notice this lady for all this time. How long has she been working? Never exactly. Great. There you go. So another obvious problem with the narrative that Alex is selling here at least as far as the U.S. goes

is that most schools in the country are closed so there's no class where they'd be playing these videos for kids. I'm not sure how elementary schools operate like except for outside like my experience they don't have periods. I feel like that's for older students like in junior high and high school but I have no idea. I haven't been school in a long time. So this video isn't something that's played for kids at school. It's a news piece that the Canadian Broadcasting Company did about the uncomfortable situation that a lot of people find themselves in where someone in a group chat possibly a family member is spouting insane conspiracy theories. The piece is basically just explaining that your instinct might be to call them crazy but that kind of

shaming behavior will often just reinforce the belief the person previously had as a defense mechanism to deal with the embarrassment of being called out. They recommend inclusive empathic language like reminding the person that we're all in this together. It doesn't recommend anyone you use the resources put out by Daniel Anderson nor does it mention health feedback. They just suggest sending them a good link to a real source but if Alex is laughing at the idea of good sources we are well past the point where his point makes any sense. They he was actually referencing my video where I gave examples such as like a listen up mom if that is your real name. You're wrong about everything and also I'll see you in hell as it

turns out. I can I have dinner later. Alex is not as concerned with confronting moms as he is about this being a real attack on dad. Yeah well and this is pretty fucked up pretty fucked up. He starts trying to play the video and he can't control himself. Here here let's go ahead and play this. So what do you do when this happens a loved one let's say it's your dad drops into the family group chat with something he thinks is real. Pause again let's back this up. Men fighting for their families how dare them dropping into a group chat to talk to the women. The women are going to show them like Daniel Anderson at the bio weapon lab who makes money off the test who runs the censorship ladies we're going to show the man yeah yeah screw them screw those men hell yeah shut them up cut

their balls off yeah yeah Bill Gates loves us sorry unroll it so you start that sounded a little personal yeah that sounded a little personal but if it were just that I would leave it alone yeah I would like yeah this is your masculine sensitivity but he says he's snowflake he says restart it so just start it back over I'm like all right maybe he'll get further into it this time no unroll it so what do you do when this happens a loved one let's say it's your dad drops into the family group chat with something it sounds personal dad no five g is just die girls just let us run you please let us sterilize you please please die oh kill them sorry so liberal it's so liberal listen to Daniel Anderson don't listen to your daddy

listen to Bill Gates let's play it again here it is yes this definitely feels like he's working through some things there might be something personal going on I don't think he has a great relationship with the women in his life currently it doesn't seem like it so he tries a third time why would you do that let's play it again here it is so what do you do when this happens a loved one let's say it's your dad drops into the family chat with something he thinks is real it's something about China man you dad of course it's all true dad's right but see it's like the fun of we don't listen to dad we take the shots and have convulsions and die but it's so trendy sorry let's turn it over oh no this is how many times he he makes it a little bit further

at the next time yeah it's it but it's just I mean it it's it seems like he's really hinging on that dad thing yeah to a level that maybe it's about the HR director and of course something real fucked up he's trying to express so he goes out to break yelling about dad's basically of course dad's right oh you're feeding into the fear just stay at home the Chinese love you sure they got three million people in death camps but dad sure they kill people like their dad dad dad yeah China's got dad if he just didn't have testicles dad because they're one free speech dad these weird frumpy women on the chai kong payroll told me my daddy's bad screw you daddy burning hell daddy

I admittedly that is the type of behavior that would get a dog neutered yeah I don't really have much of a comment about this I this is something so much shouldn't be doing on anger like it's so obviously like it's it's pathological it's not it's not using the source material to provide commentary yeah it's not it's not really even expressing a point it's just lashing out it's just angry it's just responsive anger and it seems to all circle around the idea of listening to dad yeah it's something about dad really set him off there something about somebody's children not listening to dad that seems really important to him right now for some odd reason I don't know it's very weird I don't know yeah so

he goes to break and he comes back and I guess maybe because of some of those issues he needs a proxy son so he brings Owen shroyer into studio course to be dead course and the two of them just are straight up calling for war with John right if you could actually be honest that this came out of a lab and was man made then you could actually say okay you know what hey we got a serious situation here this is biological warfare launched by the chinese we need this to phase out we're gonna need a month we're gonna have to do some serious social distancing we're at war with china instead they're totally desperate blaming our speech when it's confirmed and how does the government put up with this chai comes run everything I want action from the president now

no it's it's totally out of control and I'm not gonna try to come out people why are you so upset I don't wonder bio attack we're locked down our houses to any other reason I'm trained but like I've got a lot of men like if you bump in a store they're ready to kick your ass or if they're your dog craps the yard they go your dog just crap I'm like hey sorry like I'll beat your ass but like this might just kills your whole family destroys your way a lot you just sit there and piss and I mean I'm sick of it I don't I is Alex saying that like trying to fight over like bumping into somebody is a good impulse is it it's not I don't think so but I think Alex seems to think that it is anyway the two of them are basically just saying they want Trump to go to war with China

which is not good thank you so much for listening to dad oh my god I needed somebody to listen to dad so bad yeah thank you Owen so they they start discussing how like we're almost in a nuclear war sure we're two inches from total nuclear war right now with China yeah yeah I mean I've had it it's time for action I don't know what the president's waiting on at this point well reality man man oh man I hope no one's listening to this yikes so Alex and Owen they're goof they do a lot of goofing on this this interview if you want to call it that sure comedy segment ah Alex gets lost in an impression I think of like a Rothschild kind of thing this is where I kind of thought like maybe he's drunk but I think maybe not I think he

just got like really emotionally overloaded yeah and now he needs Owen to like fuck around yeah because it got too real some kind of release yeah yeah I think that's more what's going on than him being drunk I mean this is the we're gonna let that thing on screen right that's like that's like the Rothschild like the old Rothschild royalty they're kind of losing control Bill Gates is now seeing like a virus scared them oh that will show them oh wait and Bill Gates is sitting back like yes you had your central banking you had oh your central banks are failing your fake wars have been exposed kill everyone they'll forget about your part of the scheme I just want to say this is great except everyone knows it's you

I've got so you think it scares me the stuff you've got jacked up I love it I've never been hired in this I love it so we've got your to destroy your ass you know no but it's the Alex here's the thing people people want to be a oh my gosh you guys are just you're just so extreme you're just so loud and boisterous why are you so alive oh I don't know I mean it's like I got I got people putting out Chinese propaganda in the United States they admit that Facebook's run by the Wuhan deputy scientist okay so I mean like it's not it's not the like telltale drunk science yeah yeah but there are some little things like the constantly interrupting them sorry sorry right like that happens when he's drunk but I think it

also happens when he's sober this this to me is inconclusive I would err on the side of sober yeah I think I think he's sober I think he's just out of his mind I think it's the sorry that's only it's the sorry that's throwing me off yeah usually if he's not drunk he'll just be like go yeah like that they're hard to tell yeah so they get around to like they're doing this shit that's like fucking around and nonsense these weird impression we need to go to total nuclear war with China yeah and then it jumps back and forth because in this next clip we're talking about how like hey we could end this in three hours great if we had if we had leadership these guys are awesome don't get that literally if there was any leadership we could decapitate

these people in like three hours I mean the military could just you send out a thousand assassins and and and go up for globalists that are known chi-com operatives and you just take control of the infrastructure hand it back to the people and I'm not a guy that like lust that for violence they're attacking us brother yeah brother they're attacking us you lost for violence to an insane degree yeah and a terrifying amount your blood lust is terrifying right I mean what would this three hours of taking out the leadership involved I mean you'd have to overthrow China yeah yeah yeah yeah you'd have to take out all of the globalists sure much everybody sure the whole democratic party the entire like all of big tech all of the health care system in the country

yep all philanthropy right all foundations yeah all I already said democrats you're going to need more than a thousand assassins I'll tell you that right and more than three hours so that's a stupid fucking idea he's got the point of using an assassin is that it's a small it's a one person you know it's easy for one person to get into places if you're using a thousand assassins somebody's going to get tipped off he's does he really think that a thousand assassins could take out the ten thousand stasi that run Facebook yeah they're the better assassins to be fair the stasi are old yeah so maybe it would work so Owen of course is there to complain longer than three hours to get to China that's true so Owen is there mostly to complain about the fact

that he got kicked off twitter of course of course and it's be you know of course it's because he trying to do this rally right interestingly he tries to compare his own rally to those of the civil rights that are that's going around a couple problems white people love that couple problems love that clip when we come back and we'll get into your thought crime because imagine you're like yeah I'm gonna go out and exercise my right to assemble you know like black folks did in the 1960s or whatever I use that on the left like imagine this is just it was a virus back then when even we wouldn't even end the segregation I mean it's just like it's like you just literally everything stopped because there's a virus it's not even that deadly of a virus stop breathing

actually because because you can't stop the virus yeah I guarantee you can't catch a respiratory virus if you stop breathing well the superpower that I have is that I tell you what I really think even if it ends up hurting me short term maybe whoa got cut off by the break there they're fucking around what yeah I mean there's some problems with the with the comparison like what Dan I can't see any off the top of my head well I mean I would just start with like racism not being contagious well the if you listen to Alex it might be I would also suggest that possibly during the civil rights era were there a gigantic outbreak white people would have cared so much about the black community some of those protests might have been put off yeah they would have

still happened maybe a little later I think that yeah probably civil rights is one of the most important things that you could possibly agitate for protest in favor of still think you might want to hold off a tiny bit if there is a gigantic pandemic going on yeah yeah listen guys that's a counterfactual I can't say for sure that that is what would happen sure and there's a chance yeah I would I would hope that Martin Luther King jr. wouldn't be like well we've been being fucked over and murdered by the white oppressors for our entire lives and the entire lives of our families and back and back and back so I think it's a good idea for all of us to get together and wipe out two to three percent of us at the same time I think that's a great

idea second difference oh and his whole thing is meaningless and there's no point to them doing what they're doing no so that's the other big difference there but anyway oh so it's a horribly racist thing for them to even say perhaps yes in this next clip though or I should say at the end of that last one oh and started fucking around it's saying like hey if we just stop breathing we won't spread the virus go for it oh and start well you first it turns out this becomes a big comedy of course I'm not even going to take a deep breath I'm just going to stop breathing because I want to be a leader I want to stop the spread it's all about it let's do it let's do it like I want the crew as well I'm Obama okay and you're Hillary let's just

now of course we do have a silence alarm little hit so we should probably play some music under the certain stations get mad it's like something like you would get at a funeral yep it's kind of getting harder but but but I'm saving here right a little like 30 seconds a little covid's coming out no but we joke around about this I saw like the headline like breathing spreads it well the obvious answer is not breathing I saved the world I tell you what I want here I'm saving the world hold on get out of here it's a good bit it's a good bit you can't take that away from good bit well executed well conceived whoa I'm uh I'm done Karen go for it buddy right go for it that goes on a bit longer yeah yeah you want to mock people dying from covid 19 and then go

outside and have a big rally with all kinds of people around go to it have fun yeah so in this next clip they talk about the suspension from twitter and they have three primary complaints about it or alex does and all of them are dumb so I'm saying Alex get back to the censorship they're using coronavirus as an excuse it's not about coronavirus it's not about obviously it's not about that but what about congress should act that twitter says they're trying to organize to have protests those aren't allowed in america what happened to freedom of assembly all your bs doesn't trump that this is insane how they just push the president and the president out further and further look at that I apologize the three complaints are in a later clip this is just the

first complaint this is the right of assembly yeah twitter isn't no obligation to protect alex or owens right to assemble somewhere the first amendment is about what the government can and cannot do and the government can't stop free assembly that's just that's the rule twitter can suspend people for trying to put together huge gatherings in the middle of a pandemic that's totally within their rights and guess what these rallies over the weekend went off mostly without a hitch because the government didn't infringe on people's right to assemble as completely fucked up and stupid of an idea as it was yeah I can find one story about a person in raleigh who is arrested at a protest and this introduces an important point the right to

congregate or assemble is not absolute for instance if you're breaking a different law at a protest you can still be arrested like let's say you're at an anti-war demonstration and you punch someone you can be arrested for assault this happens all the time with protest assembled my fist to their face buddy that is legal right to free assembly it's a very common thing that like left-wing protesters will uh you know mention if you talk to them you know protesters are arrested for trespassing all the time some other charge too this is one of the fundamental realities that people in activist communities are well aware of and it's part of the price of doing protests in the context of a declared emergency like the one we're in now state governments do have the

ability to do things that they might not have had the ability to do in other circumstances when there's a stay at home order in place from the governor the police can arrest people who are protesting not because of the assembly but because the act of being assembled is a breach of another legal order so a lot of this will vary state by state but generally speaking you can still go protest but if you do you very well might get arrested your first amendment rights are still intact but exercising them in a way that jeopardizes community health could run the risk of getting you arrested it's not ideal but it's also not tyranny what that is so exemplary of is the difference between right wing and left wing protests right wing protesters are so used to

never being bothered and left wing protesters are like they kick us in the face every fucking time we're going to jail all the time they're trying to murder us did you guys not know that cops are fascist and right wing protesters are like you guys aren't letting us hang out oh no yeah i i think that anybody who's been involved in any of these sorts of things know that you get arrested a bit like it's just something that that's part of the happen yeah all the pictures you see of people at human chains and stuff and you know it's it's kind of a part of the biz yeah and they just can't handle the idea of getting suspended from twitter yeah yeah yeah good guys cool good guys so alex now comes back from break and he does another comedy bit that i mean i got to say really good

really well conceived well executed good bit you know i had to kick that employer out here earlier and i'll show him to your back live he was saying terrible things about the globalist and then he finally got reason and he said it's time for all of us to die to stop covid-19 spreading on to you and said you have to stop breathing so i don't just believe we should all be given masks i believe they should set up voluntarily hanging centers at all the local grocery stores you can put it on twitter and the china will promote it and we should all hang ourselves like they said there's too many people so ceremonially oh we have gg prings spirit animal here the gg ding dong is here oh my gosh and uh look at that you are looking very nice gg ping

gg actually actually i represent the future babies of planet earth and the world so oan has come back with a plastic baby mask over his face which is sort of blocking his ability to be heard clearly do you mean the thing that he's supposed to be doing so it's a good bit um oan comes great bit it comes back as a baby um or something alex says it's gg ping spirit animal or something they clearly didn't work this out in the commercial break they're sort of working across purposes they don't really have a good yes and thing going because oan has just invalidated the premise that alex has established yep so that's good actually i'm not the thing you said yeah yeah everybody knows that no but is the best form of improv but i will say that they're on the same page in terms

of the game yeah and that is that uh this baby is there to kill alex alex asks the baby oan to kill him will you heal will you kill me right now so i don't hurt the earth anymore yes but i just want to say that this is an example and in the future of the world the democrats really care about the future babies and so we've been sent alex to come here and to kill all humans so that we can save the human race and you have volunteered alex jones has volunteered as tribute he will be the first well actually you're gonna do this while no but i'll be uploaded live forever in the digital i'm not really being killed oh yes of course great improv there what uh adding a new layer to it that i'm not actually going to be killed i'm going to be turned into ai oh yes of course

that's of my plan oh god this is so bad this is the problem with getting good at comedy part of getting good at comedy is making it seem like you're not working that hard true so people who don't realize that you have to work insanely hard to get there think it's easy and you can just do it anytime you want well something that i thought was really interesting when i was when i was listening to this and then i went and watched it was like there have to be some people probably not a ton but some people who are like this is hilarious leino gets laughs does not really i mean there's got to be some people who think it's like innovative like oh my god i can't believe owens wearing a baby he wore a baby mask i can almost understand what he's saying it's amazing

so anyway baby owen kills alex on air sure you're a real hero for this alex i'm ready i'm ready to i'm ready to join apple heaven ready for this oh yes rest now alex rest alex good good alex and so ladies and gentlemen as you can see this is the future of mankind this is the only future if you want the future babies of the world to live so listen to bill gates and take your loving vaccine and just die just die so that humans can live forever and until then stay inside now alex jones digital hologram rises from the dead just like we say when we summon the digital oh it's so wonderful all of you need to get your physical bodies you'll be in heaven like me oh this is this is this goes on too long it's meandering to a certain extent yeah

anyway i wish i could say i hadn't seen anything like that at a community theater before but what are you gonna do what's really fun for me about this is that alex now gives up on the bit right in the middle of it of course owens still trying to go through like keep moving forward and alex is just like fuck it i'm done but i think secretly what's going on is that alex is jealous that owens wearing the mask and is the center of attention that's what i think is going on that sounds right and i just hope to fellow americans take from alex jones lead and they just willingly die but don't worry we'll put your consciousness onto the system for free is that really owens royer behind that mask for free why but you're an impostor say it with me for free

hey getting serious so now we're breaking the fourth wall we can sit here and have fun during this tyranny and i'm just you know i always say i'm honest with the audience and i am but sometimes i hold back on stuff so i'll just be completely honest everybody i'll just make a huge issue out of this right now okay he's putting the baby mask on looks too natural it actually is right now hello taking vaccines we love you alex i think was jealous of owen getting to have the fun of wearing the mask that what that reminds me so much of is a chicago comic who will not be named who went one show one show just he was headlining he bombed so bad for like four minutes that he just left and then the host came back on i believe this was matt drufki and started doing well

and then he came back on and he kicked matt drufki off to dry like this is him being like it's not my fault i wasn't getting the laughs it's because of that guy wearing the baby mask like oh man alex bales on the bit and then wants to get right back into it as he gets the mask yep i want the ball yeah exactly so anyway the bit ends and they get back to owens twitter situation and this is where the three complaints come up what i learned last night that you and a bunch of the crew members were banned off twitter and they said because you're going to violate social distancing um imagine that level of tyranny where where due process and where before even even did it and off platform activity and the right to assemble and basic the first amendment's gone and it's

all being overseen by the same tech companies that help police the chinese people this is a crime against humanity this is war crimes so i think calling owen getting suspended from twitter a war crime might be a little overly dramatic i thought calling him a civil rights leader was overly dramatic that's just factually an accurate yeah this is overly dramatic maybe that kind of talk hurts a person's credibility but to be fair alex doesn't have much to begin with so he's probably fine alex's three complaints about owens suspension seem to come down to the issue of first amendment due process and the question of off platform activity these are all bullshit complaints as to the issue the first amendment it doesn't apply here so i just reject

that as an argument in terms of due process what rights of due process does owen have with twitter that are being violated the fundamental concept of due process relates to the state respecting a person's rights and how a person has a right to a trial before they're executed imprisoned or have their property seized by the state none of that's relevant to twitter twitter doesn't owe anyone a trial before they suspend their account this is just word salad alex is throwing around the question of off platform behavior is even lame or because that's not applicable at all if owen were just organizing this rally and he didn't mention it on twitter there's a good chance he'd still have a twitter account however he mentioned it a bunch on twitter oh and he did

periscope videos where he promoted it and went to hospitals to show that there weren't cars in front of them he did a ton of on platform activity that was meant to promote his off platform activity which is kind of the problem here yeah all three of these complaints are complete bullshit he's just trying to grab victimhood to to wear like a cape yeah bullshit yeah it's uh it's disgusting yeah it's really really fucking disgusting yeah and these whole rallies like i'm i'm really really mad because the media is doing it all over again this is all made up astroturf bullshit it's just a party over this with the tea party just ignore them every time they cover it and they do it as though it's like right wing protesters instead of being like these people

are literally fucking astroturfed people trying to or people like alex yeah yeah i mean it's it's fucking ignore that that many people it's not i mean they're making a shit ton yeah no matter what it's too many it's too many and it's stupid very stupid i don't know i don't i don't know if i agree a hundred percent that you should just ignore it but i do think that maybe the coverage has been a little bit off it's been bad that's what i would agree with you on really bad so alex gets down to talking about his his sales right sure and uh he wants you to know look my sales have never been about the virus right i sell my products but it's not about the virus it's about you need food because society is going to collapse sure yeah and it's a hoax and folks i knew with china shutting

now and what was coming i said you better get ready you better boost your immune system you better get food for the economy shutting now and you should normally have your immune system boosted anyways i'm very glad to get folks to get vitamins and minerals they need plus it funds the operation i'm totally transparent but speak of this i haven't even really plugged today you have a new product here ladies and gentlemen let me tell you about this this was planned six months ago before this even started sure you know there are all these hand sanitizers that are toxic and get the fuck out of here with high quality organic alcohol and with essential oils alex is getting into the hand sanitizer game god damn it yeah this has been planned for six months six months

fuck you i know how dare you but look dude the issue is that no one has a good product no one has that we've looked at an organic hand sanitizer that actually leaves your hands not oily but not dry what does that mean it means they're not oily they're not dry they're healthy dan okay that makes perfect sure they're healthy so they're doing the sales pitch for this hand sanitizer yeah they get through with it and then alex is like oh and what's coming up on your show now what do you have coming up on the war room today well let me just say i will be definitely talking about these new hand sanitizers oh really most of the time you know first of all you can't even find any but normally you know you try to squeeze it right and the whole like glob comes out

and then you have too much and then it's a mess it's the worst how has nobody done this before with us oh hey with the spray how come no one's done it it's a spray yeah it's a spray hand sanitizer but spoiler alert a whole lot of companies produce organic hand sanitizer in a spray bottle yeah off the top of the head you have dr brawners eo vegemore air primarily pure and plenty of others there's only new to someone who didn't know it existed it's in no way an innovation i looked at the bottles and the ingredients of alex's hand sanitizers emricks essentials and i would bet just about anything i own that alex is just private labeling dr brawners hand sanitizer they're both packaged in almost identical two ounce bottles and they have identical

ingredients ethyl alcohol water essential oil and glycerin dr brawners sells hand sanitizer in both peppermint and lavender scents but they also sell a number of other soap products with eucalyptus scents which covers the three scents that alex has hand sanitizer in so it would be well within their ability as a business to create those three right right tentatively i would guess that alex has just entered into a reselling agreement with dr brawners and he wants to pretend that he's been developing this amazing hand sanitizer for six months which i have no idea how he would even do that no i wasn't have a fucking what are we talking about yeah get out of here that is two two absolutely a i had my best scientists working on this yeah my dentist father that's not opaque

you know the motivations behind that are very very clear very yeah so um this is the end of the third hour here and it would be the end of the show but alex and oan do a little bit uh at the beginning of the fourth hour and this would be how the show ends if he actually let the fourth hour host have the whole four sure sure sure i really want to take a lot of phone calls i got a lot of great guests coming up today as two so you're gonna announce that you're gay today oh my god it's delta no for david brock you know i think at david brock david brock i don't want to talk about these losers anymore honestly they're just a lot they're not so yeah they're super wow they're nazis and he also said they're sexy yeah yeah um yeah so that's uh that's how we go out to break

with uh playground uh childish insinuations that oan is gay yeah fun why you know what adults it is surprising i was amazed they made it this far without also belittling the queer community that's a great idea they do they do that plenty but okay like uh and i've even heard alex play around like calling oan gay before just like you're calling for war with china yeah yeah what you can't have a little fun all the way dan no you can't and it's not fun it's childish bullshit and and and incredibly in bigotry incredibly offense so anyway they come back and oan suggests that alex put his career on the line you know alex they used to do career matches or retirement matches in the w w f w we i think you should have you should put your career on the line

in a in a bare knuckle brawl u f c style put your career on the line all these people that want alex jones shut down you have a lineup just you'll fight them all in row do a royal rumble style they can keep over the ropes and until one of them puts you out and that'll be it you put your career on the line all these people that want alex jones shut down you can actually end his career he'll put his career on the line i'm ready to fight would you do that proceeds go to charity let's be serious oan that's the paradox is we get so close to absolute martial law paradoxically under massive threat i feel better than i've ever felt because i'm being true to myself that's a completely unrelated thought nope um i would suggest pointless to put your career on

the line in a physical fight however in a knowledge fight ah would alex debate a point in a formal debate like some point that he has actually like in a in a position where he can't yell yeah he can't just like overpower people like like a you can't just talk a mile a minute and throw out all these pointless pieces of information would he put his career on the line in a debate absolutely not of course not no and if he put it on the line in a physical fight and he lost he wouldn't stick to it no of course not that's all bullshit but it does introduce an interesting thing and that is that they're talking about the end of alex's career you don't have a retirement match when you're in the middle of your career that's what you do in order to retire well that's what i'm i'm i'm

thinking right here like oan should sound more worried if oan doesn't have all the information then that would explain why he's very nonchalant here but oan is not going to have a job if alex goes down it's not like oan's going to take over info wars and it's going to continue running it's not it's not a thing it's not like info wars is like cnn or something where yeah maybe the boss leaves and the institution stays yeah yeah no it's as go alex so goes info yeah and it's not like shroyer's going to get a job somewhere else the only way that info wars survives past alex is if alex somehow gracefully exits with millions of dollars and a willingness to fund someone else's operation yeah yeah and i don't see that ever happening yeah especially considering that the

way alex might wind up leaving info wars is going to leave info wars bankrupt as well actually you know what there is a way it could work but it would require oan taking over and then taking a bunch of money from like dark money places yeah that is conceivable if someone wanted to if one of these right wing places wanted to pay millions of dollars to keep info wars running you could see that but it would fundamentally change probably some pieces of what the show is info wars might be the only company that spanfeller could run properly maybe so you have one last clip and you know when you're talking about a retirement match you're not in the business of staying around for very long right right right and alex ends with a pretty doom doom sort of vibe and it is your

funding you know i sit there it's money that allows us to have all the lawyers to hold off the deep state and and stuff you don't even know about as long as possible and we weren't supposed to be on air by now and it's just been money just blasted at the enemy uh that's in and your prayers that's you know held them back so believe me right now it's it's always been about the victory but but now more than ever with a gun to my head uh it is now a hundred percent and i can't tell you about the stuff right now but you know let's just say they've had the carrot and then and then now they got the stick and uh and i'll and i'll and so that's where it is right now and the white house knows about it and the white house is just cut off they just think they stay they can only put out main

messages and that's about it they're they're cut off as well so he's got the they had the carrot now they've got the stick i just can't help but feel like there's something like there's a shoe he knows is gonna fall yeah and we'll see we'll see there that means there is a stick yeah and i don't think you would be saying that about um the the sandy hook case because that's not until the end of the year if that like if it's not even going to be postponed because of the coronavirus yeah you could easily see that happening um so i don't know it's there's some sort of immediate thing he refuses to discuss on air and there's only a few possibilities that that could be man this is i really really will be disappointed if he doesn't get taken down by this something soon yeah you

know like if he escapes this one again i'm gonna feel really despondent like there's just no i can't let yourself you can't let yourself put put build too much assumption no no it is it is a little bit like you know you only have to win once so you can lose and lose and lose and lose and lose but if you win once it's it's uh you know it's it's done but man if he just keeps escaping this bullshit i'm gonna be real disappointed yeah that's a failure on so many people's backs you know i don't know i don't know it's uh it's a situation where like probably we'll end this week and nothing will happen yeah but there's a outside chance that alex could be fucked yeah this week oh and i mean no matter what he's not going to be on the air most this week probably no i would assume

yeah he's going to be uh talking to lawyers he's got business to do yeah yeah he's got a lot of scrambling going to be on a workcation or something yeah and so maybe we'll have some wacky wednesday and friday this week or we'll have the best week of our lives that might be next week we might have an emergency episode of the weekend anyway jordan we'll be back but until then we have a website we do have a website it's knowledge fight dot com you bet we're also on twitter we are on twitter it's at knowledge underscore fight and i go to bet jordan we are on facebook if you like dollars please go itunes rate review your patreon page or donate to a local charity of your choice yep we'll be back but until then i'm neo i'm leo i'm dzx clark i'm oan treuer and a baby mask

andy and chansas you're on the air thanks for holding so alex i'm a first name caller i'm a huge fan i love your work i love you