Knowledge Fight - #432: May 10-11, 2020

Episode Date: May 13, 2020

Today, Dan and Jordan discuss how the week began on The Alex Jones Show. In this installment, Alex gets freaked out by bill numbers he thinks are satanic, falls for an internet hoax about New Guinea, and gets intensely hung up on the idea of men wearing pink.

I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys. I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys, saying we are the bad guys. Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes like to sit around, drink novelty beverages and talk just a little bit about Alex Jones. Indeed we are, Dan. Jordan. Jordan. Quick question. What's your bright spot today? I don't know. You go first. My bright spot, Dan is Dennis Rodman. I know you were texting me about watching the last dance. Yeah, I broke down. I've been, I've been avoiding it. And finally, I was like, I need sports so bad. I'll watch a documentary. And of course I fucking loved it because I was a huge Chicago

Bulls fan. Sure. How could you not be? You're a man of a certain age. Exactly. And I remember specifically loving Dennis Rodman so much, but I was only like eight or eight to 10 at the time. And I remember all of the anti, just queer identity stuff that I got from my moralizing marrying himself. Yeah. Just everybody with his whole like, Oh, you can't do that and all that shit. And then I'm watching the deck of Mandarin. I'm remembering, man, everybody did him wrong and he's fucking awesome. I love Dennis Rod enough to undo his run in the WCW and how he's friends with Kim Jong-un. Yeah, why not? Kim Jong-un isn't even sure of any more. I love Dennis Rodman. All right. He was in it. Maybe not now, but in the nineties, man, that guy is a very

interesting character. Yeah, those love him. And part of those rough and tumble Detroit pistons of Bill Landry. Oh yeah. Best on ball defender and rebounder that anybody had ever seen. No doubt about it. No clue how good he was. I guess my bright spot is there's been some nice recommendations from people about various seltzers to try and I'm thrilled that people are getting in on the act and simultaneously I'd like to thank some of the people who have had dissenting opinions about not liking seltzer, but also still being cool with the fact that I've embarked down this weird road. I appreciate both of these, these responses that people are having because they're tolerant of my nonsense. So Jordan, today we have an interesting episode to go over.

We're going to be talking about May 10th and 11th, 2020. I'm Dan. This is 2020. That is Sunday and Monday of this week. I'd kind of hope to throw Tuesday in as well. Keep us up super up to date, but couldn't do it. There's just too much. There is so much going on on these episodes and Alex is wrong about so much in so many different ways. Well, that's exciting. Yeah. It's actually remarkably fascinating to me how many different ways he can be wrong. Yeah. It's a it's a master class. Yes. More or less. He's going to teach you how to cook and be wrong about. Yeah. I love it. And we'll get down to business on that. But before we do, we got to say thank you to some folks who signed up and are sporting the show. So first Robert. Thank you so much. You are now

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finally like to thank you to a couple people who donated on elevated level. We appreciate that very much. So first Craig. Thank you so much. You are now a technocrat and second generation R's accruation. Thank you so much. You are now a technocrat. I'm a policy one crikey. That's fantastic. Have yourself a brew. How's your 401k doing, bro? All right. We got to go full tilt buggy on this Watson. All right. Let's just get down to business. We ain't making that money off that heroin. Why are you pimp so good? My neck is freakishly large. I declare info war on you. Thank you so much. Craig. And thank you so much. Second generation R's accruation. Yes. Thank you very much to the both of you. If you're out there listening, you're thinking,

hey, I enjoyed the show. I'd like to support these gents. Do you can do that by going to our website, knowledgefight.com, clicking the button that says support the show. We would appreciate it. Or if you'd like to please do feel free to take that generosity and send it over to local charity in your area that helps people in need. Yeah, we would love it if you did either indeed. So Jordan, we got to do a little bit of update on the year of the seltzer. Of course, but I should also say that speaking of knowledgefight.com and people who are sporting the show. I believe sometime today on Wednesday as you're listening to this episode, there should be a part one of a Q and a series. Yes. On our just on our homepage knowledgefight.com. There'll be

a streaming player of a Q and a thing that you and I did where we answered some audience questions and we did it together. Yes. And we also drank some seltzers and tried them out and gave some thank you. So there's some policy wonk shout outs on that to be to be found and for your enjoyment. Feel free to listen to it now. If it's a if it's up or hey, if you want to wait till Thursday, give yourself a nice little bridge between our Wednesday episode can't go a day without content. I didn't want to put it up on the regular podcast stream because I felt like it might be overburdening people, but it's there if people want it. So that's that's my feeling. Go for it. So in terms of the year of the seltzer, we're up to 55 seltzers now. There's a lot of

a lot of the progress being made here and you know all's all's good on the the western front as they say I'll quiet on the western front. Okay. I got some whole foods brand seltzers. They come in large glass bottles. Okay. Okay, and they're great. Okay. Yeah, foods brand seltzer in large bottles. Oh man. Spectacular sparkling mineral water is so good. Yes. Okay. I've tried two of them so far. Got a strawberry coming in at 65. That's good and lemon raspberry coming in at 72 because it was better lemon raspberry. Yes. Very good. Very good. I didn't I wouldn't buy that flavor combination normally. There's one of the reasons that I ended up buying these. They're cheap as hell and because one of them was like an elderberry something or other and I was looking

at the bottle and like I would never buy this, but then I realized I don't know what elderberry tastes. No clue what it is. I have no idea. It could be great. Could be terrible. I don't know. So we'll find out, but also there's one that is a pineapple passion fruit and I have a slight expectation that that might end up being one of the one of the ones that breaks into the 80s. One of the great. Yeah. Okay, because pineapple flavor, don't sell to if you will. It's possible. Like pineapple if done well is fantastic. Great and I'm realizing that I may have an unknown or unrealized love of passion fruit as we've discussed that could end up being like a dark horse, whole foods pineapple passion fruit, but I'm keeping it in the fridge because I don't

want right. It's Schrodinger's amazing seltzer right right right. I feel like I have to get through every coconut one I can find and be disappointed and horrified before I treat myself to something so wonderful as pineapple, but passion. We'll see so Jordan today. Like I said, we're going over May 10th and 11, a lot of fucked up nonsense to get through and I'm excited to do it. But first here's an out of context drop from today's show. What are we doing today? The same thing we do every day. Pinky taking over the world. That's pinkie in the brain. You bet it is. Thank God he's psyched that. Thank you. Thank you for reminding us that it was pinkie in the

brain that he's referencing there. Yep. Even as he gets the quote fucking wrong. Did he? Yeah. Yeah. It's time to try to take over the not take over the world. Stickler. They never actually succeed in taking over the world Dan. That is true. As far as I recall from my pinkie in the brain viewings, there was not one where it just ended like hey, we did it. Yeah, that would be great though. So here we're going to start on the 10th. That's Sunday and Alex has a number of narratives that he wants to get busy on. And this first one is about people in foreign countries taking chips. And I'm going to lay it all out for you today. Did you know starting five years ago in Sweden, they also do in other countries that you get free bus rides.

If you take an implantable microchip and last time I read more than 10,000 people in Stockholm, yeah, where you get Stockholm syndrome named from. Wow. Terri. Congrats. For the 10,000 people, I guess that's Stockholm syndrome and Stockholm, the pilot city and took implantable chips. Well, look at this. Look at this little juicy. Benjamin Yut and Yahoo says he wants every child in Israel next year to get chips and the Israeli intelligence agency will run the whole thing. Just like that. You're inside the new world order. Just like that. So there's some misrepresentations going on here and some irresponsible reporting like when he called news a little piece of juicy. Well, we should be used to that by now. That's gross. That's kind of par for the course. This

guy. So the way he tells this story about Sweden, there's an arrangement where if you agree to take an implantable microchip, you can get free bus rides. What he's referring to is a pilot program that a train company called SJ tried in 2017 where people could use implantable chips to store their electronic train tickets on this chip. I found an article about this in the independent and this line seems particularly relevant. Quote, before you pack your bags for Sweden, the scheme is only applicable to those who already have the biometric implant. SJ is not offering to chip people around two thousand Swedes have had the surgical implant to date. Most of them employed in the tech industry. Well, yeah, so it's people who already have a chip. Yeah, people who are already kind of into

body mods and they're just like, Hey, if you're already here, let's try this out and you guys can try it out and then we're good. Yeah, everybody's consenting. Yeah. The biohacking idea took root and startup companies with the implant being offered to you be used as an optional way to access buildings and was specifically designed to not be able to be tracked. A 2017 article in the Washington Post is really clear that the chip quote has no built in power supply and can't send signals about its position. Obviously, there are concerns one could have about what the technology could grow into in the future and the challenges it could present in terms of privacy. But this basic tech doesn't seem to be that effective in terms of being the evil new world order Mark of

the Beast that Alex wants to present it on. I don't know. It sounds pretty Mark of the Beastie. Yeah, sounds pretty much like the Beastie boys. Nice. All right. Come on now. So anyway, these two thousand or so people already have implanted chips and this train company decided to test if they could use them to store tickets. The consumer still has to buy tickets. It's not free tickets and the train workers then will scan their hands where the chip is and if they've bought a ticket, it'll accept that as payment. They're not chipping people by luring them in with free transportation and if you don't want to get one of these chips, there's still tons of other ways you can buy tickets to ride and do all the other things that the chip enables you to do like get

into buildings. You still have a key card. I'm always fascinated by how terrified these people are of a computer chip and yet at the same time they're carrying around a phone that can be remotely turned on without their knowledge and record everything that they're saying. Right? Like you know one of those is more, more, more scary. Some of these articles about the Swedish chip thing very clearly bring that point up. Yeah, seems very obvious. Yeah. July 2019 article in the New York Post estimated that approximately four thousand people in Sweden have gotten this chip implant by that point and I have no idea where Alex is getting his 10,000 in stock home numbers from. I would assume he's just exaggerating it from headlines like quote thousands of Swedes

are inserting microchips under their skin from NPR and that number is not ten thousand. He's just assuming that's what I guess is going on. Thousands must be ten, but he goes round number. The story about what Benjamin Netanyahu has proposed is something completely different. He's suggested that as a part of reopening after the Corona virus, Israel should put chips in all school children, which would then make then make beeping noises if they got too close to each other, which presumably would help with enforcing social distancing. That doesn't sound like a great idea, but okay. Experts have roundly rejected the idea saying it's practically unfeasible, very likely legally impossible and wouldn't achieve the desired result,

even if it were possible to implement. It seems from what I can tell that this proposal is not going to get off the ground and a point brought up by cyber resilience expert E not Maron in the article, an article in the Jerusalem Post. He kind of makes clear why quote if the information with the kid's location is uploaded to the internet, a pedophile with some cyber knowledge may invade the system and stock them outside their schools, follow them and distribute the information on other platforms. Maron said, can the state take responsibility for that? There are a ton of reasons, including concerns like that. Why this would be a very unwise system for a state to put in place. And until I see evidence of the contrary, this kind of seems like a world leader blowing hard

about dumb ideas about how they envision returning to some kind of normalcy. And let's not forget that just back in January Netanyahu was quote charged with bribery and fraud and breach of trust in three separate corruption cases for what these cases are ongoing. And since he's been convicted, or since he hasn't been convicted, he's still able to legally serve as prime minister, but that may not go on indefinitely. Isn't that wild? Yeah, the laws are crazy. Anyway, the point here is that these two situations with microchips are completely different. One of them is a passive chip that's not run by the government and does not track people being used, you know, when they're using it like a key card, whatever. The other is a government

suggesting putting geo locating chips in children. It's pretty dishonest to have a conversation where you treat these as equivalent or even related things, right, because they involve microchips, especially since one of them, it took me all of four seconds to be like, that's a terrible idea. Stop that. Sure. Very easy, very easy to know that nobody's going to follow through on Netanyahu's ridiculous nonsense. I mean, I don't want to say that no one will because the world is wild now, but I assume Turkey will. It's you can have a conversation about how like the idea of this Sweden program is like what this could facilitate or grow into or whatever. If you want to have that conversation by all means go ahead. But talking about it on

the merits, it's just it's not even close to the same thing as what Netanyahu's proposed. Absolutely. And I find it offensive when Alex just makes them the same thing. So Alex gets talking and boy, this guy fucking loves history. I'll tell you what, I mean, it's impressive. I mean, with the old Vikings, a lot of the Viking tribes, when a man died, they would take his wife and sometimes his daughters because here we go them. All right. And they would tie them up on a boat, a ship and send them out in the water on fire together so they could go to Valhalla together. I'm listening. Is that Netanyahu's idea? Now, why did people act like that?

Why did every culture end up setting things up like that? Well, I have the answers. Just to be clear, Alex's reason for the culture is all doing this is because interdimensional demons are telling them sacrifice humans for their pleasure or something. There we go. And this is based on Alex's deep research. Unfortunately, this appears to be yet another thing that Alex saw in a movie and decided to call deep research. For one thing, Viking funerals at sea were absolutely not the standard for people of the Scandinavian tribes that we call Vikings. You can easily see how absurdly expensive that would become if you were making boats and burning them at sea for every person who died. Infinite resources, Dan, come on. There were some people

who had funeral pyres and boats on the sea, but the historical record tends to indicate that these were reserved for like really important people. The different groups that are all lumped in as Viking were not a uniform culture, but most people were cremated or just buried typically. However, boats were a really important symbol in their culture, representing safe passage to the afterlife. So people would often be buried with parts of their boats or even cooler, their burial mounds would be made to resemble ships themselves. Oh, that is fun. This was far more common than the funeral at sea, but the funeral at sea is what's always depicted in movies. So someone who only watches movies and decides that studying would, you know, that,

you know, that's basically the same thing. You probably think that it's super common and what they did for everybody. Yeah, this thematic touch where the Norse dead is put on a boat and then they shoot fire arrows at it like Alex is describing. That doesn't come from history. It actually started in the nineteen fifty eight filmed the Vikings and has been a really popular trope ever since then. It is really fucking cool. It is. I mean, it's cool. It's really cool. That's why it's stuck around. How did they even hit it? It's so far away. Yeah. So one of the difficulties on this subject is the actual written history. The record about Viking peoples is limited. So there's a bit of uncertainty about what the precise reasons were for why they did

the things they did in terms of funeral rituals. It's a really diverse set of funeral rituals. They had a lot of them seemed to involve like chaos. So like it's really tough to know exactly what was going on there. There may have been some instances where of Norsemen being buried with their wives like murdered, you know, but share. But what was far more common was them killing slaves to be buried with the person to help them on their trip to the afterlife. Yeah, which is something that you unfortunately do see in a lot of older cultures. Yeah. Yeah. Also, there's no reason for Alex just to think that women were property and Viking communities. There's strong archaeological evidence that women were, in fact, not property.

There have been merchant scales found in women's graves, which indicates that they were involved in trading and thus allowed to have some sort of autonomous life. Additionally, in 1904, the remains of the Osberg ship were found in Vestfold, Norway. The ship was a funeral vessel, which served as the burial site for two important Norse women who died around 834 CE. This is like a particularly large boat casket, 70 feet long, 17 feet wide and 30 feet high. So it gives the strong evidence that these were women who had a particularly important position in their community, which Alex would not think is possible because he's only seen movies and TV shows, right? And maybe played the Witcher because that's sort of Viking issue.

Yeah, they got a they have that whole thing where they burn a skeleton. Yeah, I love it. Yeah. This is not to say that these communities were egalitarian or equitable. That's not fair, probably, but just the perspective that Alex has on these people is not something he's gained from research. It's just that he watched some TVs and movies like he knows he knows nothing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is nonsense. He's he's not read a book. He could not tell you whether or not a ship is still a ship if all of its parts have been replaced. It's an interesting philosophical question. It's difficult to answer. Sure. And also there's one made out of toenails. So there's that too. I have an interesting philosophical question to ask you. What's that?

If you're Alex Jones and you're circling the drain desperately and things are falling apart, right? This is a hypothetical, right? Should you follow through with the plan that you had before the virus outbreak where you start talking more about Seth Rich? I can't think of any reason why not. Oh, big article, a national file. They've got a great headline, but it should have been this. NSA has communications between Seth Rich and WikiLeaks attorney claims. I read the article, Sy Hirsh, two-time Pulitzer Prize winner, most respected as you can get. He's now talked to the FBI agents and others. They've seen it. They all know it. Seth Rich was the leaker. So the story here is that this guy named, this lawyer named Ty Clevenger,

he's come out and he's made some claims regarding Seth Rich that he's failed to substantiate in any way. I wonder how his first claim is that he's been told that the NSA or other related agencies are in possession of communications between Seth Rich and WikiLeaks. There's no evidence provided for this claim, but that's never stopped Alex from believing something before. Clevenger, he claims that quote, several high ranking FBI and NSA officials have seen the correspondence between Rich and WikiLeaks firsthand to which I say, prove it. Let's see the evidence on that, buddy. Is he talking about a few lieutenant colonels? Yeah, I think he's probably talking about some lieutenant colonels. So Clevenger goes on to claim that he has a recording of Seymour

Hirsch talking to one of his clients and claiming that he spoke to someone at the FBI who confirmed emails between Rich and WikiLeaks. This recording is not available on the Info or his article about this nor the national file one that I think Alex is referring to. So to this, I say, let's see that audio because I have found some audio that purports to be leaked Seymour Hirsch phone calls and they don't prove any of this stuff. They're related to this topic somewhat, right? But they don't prove any of these claims. Well, yeah, but you're just not listening to the right ones, Dan. Sure, maybe, but they're not providing any of them. So I don't know what the fuck to do. This guy needs to put up. That's what I'm saying. I think he's one of those guys who

doesn't want to put up for summary. Probably he's just one of those guys who's like, I don't need to put up. So this seems to be a conspiracy theorist taking threads that have existed from the beginning of the Seth Rich bullshit and pretending that they're new. The Seymour Hirsch thing was a claim that goes back to at least 2017 when Hirsch himself debunked it. One of the OG Seth Rich conspiracists, Ed Batowski, who's a Trump associate and donor, said he, quote, became convinced that the FBI had a report concluding that Seth Rich's laptop showed that he had contacts with WikiLeaks after speaking to the legendary reporter Seymour Hirsch, who was also investigating Rich's death. According to the transcripts in the lawsuit,

Batowski says Hirsch had an FBI source who confirmed the report. That's from a 2017 thing. NPR interviewed Hirsch about this and he said, quote, I hear gossip. Batowski took two and two and made 45 out of it. Yeah. Yeah. That sounds about right. This misrepresentation of Hirsch was passed from Batowski to Fox News, who ended up feeding the flames of the initial propaganda about this, which ended in lawsuits. Everybody came out fine smelling like roses. This is exactly what Clevinger is talking about. And I know that because I found a July 2019 blog post on the website Lawflog, which was written by Ty Clevinger himself, where he discusses how Ed Batowski is one of his clients. F Logs, Lawflog? Yes. Is that the one? Yeah. Another reason that I'm kind of worried

about Clevinger's work is because he also said in this post about the Seth Rich stuff, new, new stuff, quote, back to the NSA. Former NSA officials, Bill Binney, Ed Loomis, and Kirk Webe are prepared to testify that the DNC emails published by WikiLeaks could not have been obtained via hacking. This is a huge problem because Bill Binney has walked back that claim. And from everything I can tell, he would not testify to that in court because he was shown that his assertions about download speeds were completely wrong. This again is another element to these claims being made by Clevinger that just seems to be the old Seth Rich conspiracy shit being reintroduced and pretending that it all hasn't already been discredited. This is pretty

sad. And honestly, we've done this already. So I'm not going to waste my time watching Alex pretend there's new information here. Alex better be fucking careful, though, because this is a topic that has led to a number of people being sued already. And the family of Seth Rich does not seem thrilled that people are keeping this alive. Yeah, I think in his situation, though, part of him must be like, what else do you got? You know, like, oh, you're going to lose. Yeah, join, join the fucking club, you know, like, oh, you're, you're going to be the last one to sue me. If I have any money left at the end of this, you still won't. I might be able to get a little press out of getting sued, and then maybe I can make a arrangement or something. I can I

can settle whatever. Yeah, and all in service of jangling keys away from his guy being the worst human being on the planet. Yeah, and having to deal with that. Yeah, he doesn't want to do that. No, and one of the ways he's, you know, distracted attention. I understand already. We're all over the place, and that's because this episode is one of the rare instances where Alex is throwing spaghetti at the wall. Yeah, yeah, Viking funerals. No more. No more narratives are working. So let's see what we can figure out. Yeah, but of course a lot of it does still end up having to be about like a coronavirus denial. Is I sure and one of the big things that he's done with that is you know to craft the giant conspiracy is of course Bill Gates's patent zero six zero six

right right right patent of the devil. Yes. Unfortunately, the number six has come back up in another place. Okay, Congress introduces bill to allow government to mass test Americans for COVID-19 in their homes forcibly. And ladies and gentlemen, let me give you the bill number shall I six six six six now that's one too many buddy to go five months ago got a patent on two thousand and twenty zero six zero six zero six to track you with either a chip or a bracelet. I got to say that it's so unsatisfying her all the satanic shit that Alex tries to build up is not actually ever six six six. I know I understand that the bill number is just sixes but it's not six six six that patent filing number may have been zero six zero six zero six but that is not

six six six if the number of the beast is six six six that isn't revelation saying hey weirdo look out for numbers that remind you of six six six it's saying that the specific number of the beast is six six six six six six six is not six six six and I reject this lazy level of devil baited know it's the devil is fungible Dan the devil is always willing to play a little game around on yet devil is a suggestion yeah get the fuck out of here so here are some other bills that have the number six six six six and let's bask in the pure evil all right let's do it in the twenty seventeen twenty eighteen legislative session the new york state senate passed bill six six six six which quote relates to authorizing the care and treatment of injured employees by

duly licensed and certified acupuncturists under the workers compensation program devil uses acupuncture next injured workers can now go see an acupuncturist pure devilry exactly governor Cuomo ended up vetoing this bill though so does that mean that Cuomo was fighting the devil let's not get bogged down into it because this shit runs deep who could forget about the deep-seated satanism in twenty eight teens u.s. helps of representatives bill hr six six six six or as you might remember it quote the bill to authorize the secretary of the interior to grant to states and local governments easements and rights of way over federal land within gateway national recreation area for construction operation and maintenance of projects for control and prevention of flooding

and shoreline erosion that sounds exactly like the devil it gives you chills to hear about that level of evil oh man easing no everything must be harder shoreline erosion but really why stop at bill numbers if six six six six is basically just six six six shouldn't we be scouring phone numbers for clues as hot beds of devil worship absolutely if so i suggest alex do a big expose on the hawaiian electric company whose phone number is suspiciously nine six nine six six six that's an extra six that's so many six and the two nines are just basically upside down sixes that's all the sixes this thing goes deep george okay and i didn't realize how deep it went but you know you know there are even pockets of satanists in the world of early 1900s texas

ranchers how else could you possibly explain that one of the most famous ranchers in king county texas is literally named the six six six six ranch case close satanism now i sense a little bit of personal and many towards alex for this bullshit no that's actually true no before six is rich i mean you're yeah yeah i just do i fucking hate this stupid i know so house resolutions are numbered in the order they're introduced and if more than six hundred six thousand six hundred sixty five resolutions pop up in a session you're inevitably going to get a six six six six it legit means nothing bill six six six six in the two thousand seven two thousand eight session of congress is actually something that alex would probably wholeheartedly support quote to amend the

clean air act to provide that greenhouse gases are not subject to the bill i bet that number would become substantially less suspicious if alex were covering that bill yeah that one actually does sound sixty sixty to me or what about this year you know there was already a bill six six six right that happened already now it was to extend benefits to veterans yeah i don't know what alex thinks he's proving this stupid numerology bullshit but if that's the level of game he wants to play i guess he's free to it just looks pretty fucking embarrassing from where i'm sitting it is very embarrassing as for the actual bill it begins quote to authorize the secretary of health and human services to award grants to eligible entities to conduct diagnostic testing for

covet nineteen and related activities such as contact tracing through mobile health units and as necessary at individuals residences and for other purposes let's pause there all the bill is doing is authorizing the secretary of hhs to give grants alex does realize that trump gets to decide who the secretary of hhs is right now the deep state decides this is a presidentially appointed position and trump's guy alex azar is currently in that role if there's some kind of a nefarious thing where this bill was meant to facilitate evil it literally could only be done by the action of the person trump hired and could fire unless they're blackmailing alex azar whatever yeah already after just the first line of this act you can see how any conspiracy

about this is mostly based on the bill number not on content yeah this is a very short bill but alex isn't a big reader if he's going to complain about like some news article being four pages long it's not like he's a guy who likes primary information if you read this it's pretty clear that what this bill is about is allowing the secretary of health and human services to distribute grant money to eligible organizations that are involved in increasing our testing capacity to get to the point where it's conceivable to return safely to something resembling normal the part about doing in-home testing that would be something that those entities would receive grants they could do this you know to facilitate people who are already quarantined you can imagine

how much better a system it would be if you could get reliable testing at home as opposed to thinking you might be sick and then having to go out into public being unsure if doing so is a risk to others this whole conspiracy is a load of bullshit and at this point i'm weary i'm just weary it takes so little to create the appearance of something evil when you want it to be yeah did they put forcibly in that bell it sounds like something that congress does i didn't see that yeah they usually put forcibly might have been editorialized let's give them a grant to people who will break into your home and test you for a disease i think that's a great idea right i don't think they're i don't think they put forcibly in that don't think so i doubt it and let's imagine

that they did okay azar could stop it yes he could he could just say i'm not going to give grants to people who do no done yeah problem solved yep unless he gets confused by how many sixes there are and if you refuse to do that trump could fire him and replace him with someone who would absolutely problem solved yeah even if you're nefarious evil fucking version of this bill is true you have the ace of spades to to play pretty sure everybody is actually in on it stupid everyone's in on it damn so tired yeah so you know how like hotels don't have 13th floors because of the superstitious yeah yeah get rid of these bill numbers that are weird yeah get rid of bill 420 yeah rid of 666 get rid of 69 just stop it any number that's fun every bill is bill 69

bill 69 point one point two point three yeah we got to do something because these dumb dumps just can't handle they just cannot deal with it yeah so this next clip alex has found a new coronavirus conspiracy to ramble about and this one is maybe dumber than uh some of his others the joke is you die of a shark attack they'll test you and remember the tanzanine president is a famous biologist he's invented a lot of stuff he's a top biologist he had a feeling because he knew the um was paying off the tanzanine national clinic so he said send a goat and a papaya last week to test they both tested COVID-19 they test for genetic material that genetic materials and everything that's biological uh so the president of tanzania is a man named john maghufuli and there is no

sincere person who would ever claim that he is a quote top biologist i'm pretty sure he's a top biologist for one he has a doctorate in chemistry which is not biology it's pretty much the same thing nope i have no idea what alex is claiming he's invented and alex isn't specific about it so i'm just going to leave it alone i could invent it biology maybe so there's a viral meme that's been going around about maghufuli claiming that he sent a sample of a goat a quail and a papaya to be tested for COVID-19 and they came back positive there's been absolutely no evidence provided to back up this claim and people have been pretty quick to point out that maghufuli is currently facing a great deal of pressure over his handling of the virus and this sounds like a whole lot like

something someone would say if they were trying to minimize a problem they handled poorly yeah that does sound familiar so until we get some sort of an evidence of this or maybe someone replicating this in a controlled environment i think it's probably a tanzanine president talking shit yeah also alex should definitely not like john maghufuli no he's great a july 2018 article in the mail and guardian discusses maghufuli's government's practice of intimidating journalists with reports of them quote being threatened assaulted and kidnapped hit with papayas all over the place in 2017 maghufuli began shutting down media operations that were not to his liking including five prominent tv stations in the swahili language newspaper mawio he introduced a

nine hundred twenty dollar license that the government required bloggers to obtain to be able to post things online licenses that the government can revoke if the writers post content that they disapprove of it's just to protect against fake news dan and then there were the threats to have anti-government protesters quote beaten like stray dogs just for gathering to voice displeasure with the way the government was operating you can't have people starting riots out there dan this is for their safety everything alex pretends is happening in the u s because he's not allowed on twitter actually is happening to journalists and activists and tanzania he doesn't know any of that shit and he doesn't care this guy came out and said something useful for

alex's narratives about the corona virus so he's not only a great president he's also apparently a famous inventor and top biologist this is how alex works another shit means anything it takes zero work to go from nothing to top biologists yeah it takes no work you don't have to be a biologist no say something fun for alex to use and guess what you just got a promotion to top biologist if alex gave no bell prizes there would be a lot of no bell prizes and no one would get one for what they do if you have anything that's helpful to him and you publish it you're now working for a prestigious university yeah yeah yeah totally even if you don't work for a university blog post one of the most prestigious blog posts ever winner of the no bell prize and literature

sure so there's been some trouble going on in the world of real the real world as they call it ooh not a fan with some cases of the virus at meatpacking plants yeah there have been certainly a robust conversation going on about this alex has a bad take on it guys pull up the article and come back 300 plus tyson employees test positive 2000 employees at a meatpacking plant 300 plus test positive not one got a fever not one had a cough that's called asymptomatic you're so smart of course they tested positive so smart add a cold in the last decade you test positive there was 300 so the 298 workers at tennessee tyson plant test positive cover 19 so the story about the 300 people at a tyson plant testing positive doesn't actually make the argument alex is claiming it

does for one if the tests just say you're positive if you've had a cold in the last decade or whatever why did only 300 out of 2000 test positive introducing the idea that some tests are always being positive and some not is going to be an additional layer of conspiracy here that i don't think alex is ready or able to prove at all i'm not positive exactly what plant he's talking about unfortunately because there were a number of yeah there are a number of situations similar to this or along these lines yeah because everything's great so he's talking about a tyson plant that's for sure and i should tell you that business insider reported on monday that quote at least 4585 tyson workers in 15 states have been diagnosed with covet 19 and 18 have died that's the reality

that alex is spinning into propaganda as a narrative it's pretty important not to lose sight of that these arguments are ghoulish and even if the numbers are accurate like they don't make the case he thinks they do no it does not make sense no these this is insane these people are insane so he said that he's talking about a tyson plant here but later in the episode we find out that he thinks it's the same thing as a pork plant in missouri which isn't run by tyson this is a story that was about a plant that was run by triumph foods and alex conveniently ignores an update about that story when he covers it and that is that one of the employees who was you know tested positive who was a man in his 40s is now dead alex is hanging on the asymptomatic thing here to argue

that none of these people are actually sick and it's all a charade and i feel like if this guy who's unidentified in the stories that i found about it but he wants to sue alex maybe this might be a might be a fun way to do it have fun yep it's possible join join the class action lawsuit that will eventually i assume include the entirety of the united states of america it seems like there's a possibility of that don't we all have grounds to sue alex three hundred and thirty million i mean some might be flimsy lawsuits i will say that class action is a little bit light but why not yeah might get a slap alex gets slap suits against everybody in america i think that'd be great so in this next clip alex discusses how like you know with the virus all this stuff

that is all we need to focus on sure but unfortunately that means that other stories get left by the wayside yes and so he tries to like do a little touch on one of these stories here and i think he does it about as badly as you can okay really you have to understand that this covet 19 thing is the launch of the new older takeover so everything else is just a side issue i mean in georgia the original police report said that somebody been robbed oh no no he's taking fishing equipment stealing four wheelers this dude went into the house and they saw him and then they got in a fist fight with him and they shocked the guy i think that's too much lethal force and i wouldn't have done it but that's what happens when people you know look

like they're robbing houses and the media is trying to make a race for out of this well i think these guys need to go to prison for what they did probably not uh because the guy duck swings at him so alex is absolutely fudging some of the details here in the case of the shooting of amad arbery it does seem like a lot of white nationalists are fudging details around this one so the way alex is presenting this if you didn't know what he was talking about it kind of sounds like he's describing a police shooting of somebody who they thought was suspected of breaking into houses that's not the case in reality arbery was shot by Travis mcmichael whose dad used to be a cop but is not anymore mcmichael and his dad chased down

arbery who they decided was a suspect for break-ins that had happened in the neighborhood this was not excessive lethal force being used by police it was a murder that is being justified by appeals to racism in the police report the elder mcmichael claimed that he saw arbery out jogging and decided that he must be a burglar this makes sense considering that he wasn't carrying anything he was in jogging clothes and it was broad daylight from the report quote mcmichael stated the unidentified male began to violently attack travis and the two men then started fighting over the shotgun at which point travis fired a shot and then a second later there was a second shot this story is contradicted by video that has been released to the altercation which clearly shows

arbery trying to jog around the mcmichael's truck at which point a shot is fired immediately after that you see travis mcmichael outside the truck in a bit of a lockup with arbery after which there are two more shots the varying timeline of events and number of shots between mcmichael's version of the story and the video is something that i find particularly troubling and the fact that mcmichael is a former cop leads me to believe that he should have you know a lot of training in the field of reporting events it's one thing for a random person in the heat of the moment to get some major details wrong that does happen it's something else entirely for a former cop to get basic details of an event wrong it is shocking that a cop would get basic details of an event wrong when

they use deadly force that's so surprising so arbery was killed on february 23rd and there was no arrest until may 7th then on may 9th the video was released that appeared to show arbery walking up to a house under construction looking around then leaving this video has been used by all the let's call them racists to argue that arbery had it coming and that the mcmichael's were well within their rights to kill him personally i've done way worse things at construction sites and no one ever killed me over it i'll say that the full full disclosure really growing up in the midwest i think that there might be a fairly common experience of fucking around on construction sites yeah yeah i i was really hoping he wouldn't talk about this one yeah it does talk about it

much to be fair yeah that's good that's good because this one is very much a simple litmus test for whether or not you're a giant flaming racist i think yeah so the argument seems to be that because arbery looked around a house under construction the mcmichael's had probable cause to do a citizen's arrest but that doesn't really make sense they didn't actually see him commit any crimes so that would be pretty flimsy defense here i think what could easily make sense you know as a curious person looking around well maybe in a cool down on their jog becomes proof of criminality in this case and it's hard not to think that a racial component has something to do with that even if the mcmichael's weren't acting from a place of racism the people bending over

backwards to defend them people like millie weaver certainly are oh so much this is a horrible tragedy and there is a new investigation going on into the matter and we'll see what happens with that for now i want you to take note of how alex discusses this case and compare it to how he spent month after month yelling about how katie steinle was murdered because she was white and the immigrant couldn't stand that he couldn't be with her think about how alex promoted rallies against immigration in the name of steinle and sent oan shroyer out to cover them it's important to recognize these differences because they are the places you see alex's racism on full display he's too savvy to say the n word or talk about hating non-white people openly but you can see clearly how he how

differently he engages with situations depending on the races involved if there's a case of a non-white person accidentally discharging a gun and the bullet ricochets and hits a white woman it's a case of a brutal murder that was done because the victim was white if there's a case of two white men chasing down a black man they've decided is a criminal then shooting him it's a situation where alex wouldn't have done it himself but they didn't do anything wrong because the guy took a swing this is how his racism is on full display yeah he's too smart to make it too obvious well i condemn the way they did it but was it illegal yes that's for the courts to disarm right so when alex is like i know you can never provide proof that i'm a racist yeah i i suggest this is all the proof

anyone should ever need ever ever this is such a simple fucking thing and it should it the fact that it's all out in the open yeah is disqualified it's a mess every single person who says anything other than that he was murdered by two fucking modern lynchers is a racist the end so alex you know i don't know if you remember this but since the coronavirus situation has popped up yeah a number of times alex has seen videos and he's decided that shit's real because they are you just know it 100 percent your spirit knows it's in the your gut dan yeah so alex has been tricked by another hoax and in trials already of covid 19 in new guinea where you get the term guinea pig no joke um they've already had on the local news they come in uh they inject the children of the

women and they just start convulsing and dying everywhere so that's not true alex has seen some videos that were making the rounds online that purported to show quote the aftermath of a deadly covid 19 vaccination trial in new guinea sure this was a video simply put it was a fraud someone took already existing video of people in new guinea protesting after some children had allegedly gotten sick from a vaccine and they claimed this footage was related to research and testing of a new covid 19 vaccine and what year was that footage from well the actual video was from march 2019 on a news station called gangam the actual news report was about a community displeasure uh after a few children experienced mild side effects like dizziness and fever

after being in a quote drug treatment program to reduce the prevalence and intensity of the parasitic infection uh schistomyos measis also known as snail fever gangam's editor and chief saku jamal pandessa told reuters quote the editorial staff of the gangam rtv group notes with deep regret that some internet users have been allowing themselves since monday april 6th 2020 to use one of our old reports to make people believe that there in recent days cases of discomfort due to a vaccination campaign in schools in dubrica we would like to point out that the report was produced on march 18th 2019 we invite you to refrain from such games during this sensitive period marked by a global health crisis this makes me think like i said of all the times alex has

said he just knows when he sees a video if it's real or not he just knows the spirit knows here's the reality spirit doesn't know shit he's a lazy propagandist and he falls for hoaxes like this regularly which he then reports to his audience as fact because he wants to they conform to his narratives and thus they feel true to him the problem is none of its real it's it's really frustrating that it is an airtight defense to say they're doing what we're doing while you're doing it like it really big because all the time he's like oh they're sending out all these hoax videos and all of this shit is all fake and the media is all liars and all that shit and all he ever does well but then he's like well there we're only doing it because they're doing it to be fair

i would be perfectly comfortable assuming that alex has no idea this is fake oh yeah no i would i would be like i i don't know if this is craft or just him being an idiot because i mean the end result would ultimately be the same he would report it like this for sure whether you know whether he's deceitful i mean he obviously is deceitful right right right this this could easily just be something he saw on a like a headline on some dumb site that he he goes around like oh my god i can't believe new guinea yeah what mad what is frustrating is also that it doesn't matter if it's true or not well that's true not to him also new guinea has nothing to do with guinea pigs new guinea was it is an island in it's north of australia in micronesia guinea pigs are

likely named for their association with guinea an old name for the area in africa around the gulf of guinea and in the 1500s guinea was a pretty general term that would be used to describe exotic far off places across the sea there's no real consensus among scholars about exactly how the guinea pig got its name but one thing that absolutely no one thinks is that it has anything to do with new guinea this is just another thing that alex is making up to sound smart for his audience but it's based on nothing in that clip you heard him report on a hoax video as real then make up a piece of trivia about guinea pigs which is standard operation for him yeah nothing means anything yeah that one that one really that one really got me that one really got me when you

just open with in new guinea where guinea pigs are from so confidently so confidently because he wants the association to be like you do tests on guinea pigs exactly of course no i don't know the the math is simple right that's that's a real frustrating everything about this is very angry yeah so alex he knows right yes he knows that there are a bunch of studies that prove that vaccines lower your immunity right there aren't well he knows that there are okay but there aren't and now he's really confused because he sat down to try and find those studies right and now he can't so therefore they must be being taken offline that's the wrong conclusion and they play all these games what's crazy is used to you could type in studies show vaccines lower immunity

the next year all those are gone i spent an hour today well my children played with my wife in the pool i wanted to be out there but i had to find the articles and i went and found three big studies from just a few years ago about it lowering immunity but folks i had to go 50 pages deep i had to find old articles and link through that it's all nothing but there is no side effects vaccines are perfect no one ever got hurt they're totally good it's all lies just and all these fake doctors and their little you know lab coats when i say fake they're fake people you know in their little outfits telling you oh vaccines are perfect there's no side effects everything's wonderful oh my god it's the worst pandemic on earth all this emotional crap are you complaining about these doctors

being fake people fake doctors where guinea pigs are from i think that has to be like a clarification he's like i'm not saying their actors not saying their actors not saying their actors they're not even real god damn it what am i doing they're just not on the level man what does that even mean i don't know that's how you describe like a friend yeah he's a real guy there's a real real friend not the doctors oh man i'm so sick of all these fake doctors out here they act like their friend you hang out with them and then you find out the next week they've been talking shit about you with their other real friends god damn fake doctors so this is pretty difficult for me because alex claims that he found all these studies that he used to be able to find really easily but now

takes him forever but he also didn't post any of them on his website or provide literally any indication of how you're supposed to go and find them yourself because of that i really don't know what claims alex is making or what to go on in searching in for his website there's a number of articles about immunity issues and vaccines many of which are just things that robert kennedy junior wrote and alex is reposting in these cases the claim of weakened immune systems has to do with vaccinating children and the assertion that this quote so badly weakened their immune system that they were dying in droves from unrelated infections that doesn't sound true this is based on a 2017 study published on e-biomedicine which taken at face value claims that children

studied had a five times higher mortality if they had received the diphtheria tetanus pertussis vaccine compared to unvaccinated children these were children vaccinated between 1984 and 1987 so this isn't even a study about the currently used dtp vaccine but leaving that aside there are some problems with this study that folks have pointed out which make its conclusion not entirely reliable the first is that the study involves a very small sample group there were only 1057 children total in the study which is not enough to generalize conclusions about vaccine effectiveness or side effects on the biggest problem however is that not there's nothing in the study that actually shows that any of the children's deaths had anything to do with the vaccine these are all

cause death numbers which means that the deaths could have been from drowning or some other accident and they'd still be factored into the rates and this makes the conclusions very difficult to apply generally other studies have not come to the same conclusion and the argument that vaccines lower your immunity to things other than what the vaccine is targeting is but they've been pretty roundly rejected by science a 2018 report in jama quote found no statistically significant differences in the level of immunity against non-vaccine targeted infections between their control and experimental groups yeah of course that might be what alex is talking about but i'm only guessing based on what's on his website yeah there's another argument about vaccines

lowering immunity that unsurprisingly comes from andrew wakefield this one is basically that when you use vaccines you put part of your immune response into hyperaction while the other part is not used and thus is weakened the basic gist here is that he's saying that you get better immunity by dealing with things naturally so you should get measles if you want to be immune to it and if you take a shortcut of vaccines it'll hurt your cell mediated response related immunity this is nonsense and no one in the medical field takes it seriously yeah that sounds like magic sincerely i'm not sure what precise claim alex is trying to make but in trying to sort it out it's not too hard to find two separate similar ideas which are both bullshit being pushed by

luminaries of the anti vex propaganda world which are very easily debunked ideas vaccines do not lower your immunity and no one is taking studies off the internet alex can't find these studies because they probably weren't there to begin with i imagine he just read some headlines 10 years ago and then kept yelling about it and eventually embellished it into being a prestigious study from the most reputable journey journal known to man and now when he goes and tries to find it shockingly nothing comes up that seems to be what's going on yeah that does have the feel of somebody being like i have okay okay fine you know what i'm actually going to prove at this time i've been screaming about vaccines lowering your immunity for forever so fuck you i'm going to look it up

and i'll find it and i can't i can't find it because they got rid of it because it must be because everybody's stealing it can't be man the globalists took it down it's got to be because they're hiding it cover up you know how the internet famously allows people to hide things yeah they love it so but look man they're not letting you get this vaccine info they're trying to get rid of this they want the consumers to not have the information they need their brainwashing alex has an amazing comparison to make wonderful mic down for this and now they're just not letting consumers have info it is it is beyond t.s louis's the jungle the level of abuse of the citizens the level of the abuse of of consumers i want to be sure everyone could hear that there's no

author named t.s louis it's probably a fun combination of t.s leon and c.s louis uh whereas the name alex is trying to come up with his ubson sinclair yeah kind of makes sense that alex doesn't remember that dude's name though so he is ubson sinclair is a gigantic socialist he's not a huge fan it's always fun to pretend to be into someone's book but also believe that everything that motivated their life's work is devilry and thus the jungle was written by t.s louis everybody everybody knows that even a blind squirrel finds the occasional nut then you know weird so alex what this next clip is one of the reasons that like i mean i hadn't heard this episode when we put out our episode on monday where uh project camilla talked to a super soldier yeah but if you listen to this you

kind of understand why i feel like that sort of stuff does fit into the body of our work one of the born supremacy movies the origin one i forget the name of it is very accurate and got into some really secretive research that's been going on since the 70s uh but it's now public that they can have viruses they're tailored to only eat certain receptors in the brain and they do test on these to to to eat the receptors that say you have a governor where you can really bench press a thousand pounds because only bench press 400 pounds or you can really squat 2000 pounds but you know you're a weight lifter you think you can't you can only squat 700 and so it turns so now you're superhuman okay so alex basically believes that there's research they can make super soldiers

yeah absolutely i'm not sure what secret research alex uh imagines he's going on as revealed in these movies but i want to talk a little bit about the real world research and the subject he's talking about the kind of shows what he's talking about to be childish nonsense there's a phenomenon known as hysterical strength where archetypially you know it's presented as someone raising up a car to get someone you know save someone who's trapped underneath it's the idea that in moments of severe need we find ourselves capable of doing things we didn't realize we're capable of naturally this is something that's almost impossible to study in a controlled setting how could you reliably create the conditions that would be needed to produce this response in a person while controlling

for other variables basically you can't but researchers who work with muscles kind of understand the basic idea without needing to trap a subject a test subject loved one under a car no no it's like punked okay what you do because you can't let them in that it's an experiment otherwise they'll know that their kid isn't actually i don't i don't know if science is gonna let ashton oh yeah you get ashton kutcher to run kids over with cars and then we go from there i think that's one a brilliant tv idea sure and two a great way to run experiments so scientists to work with muscles understand this stuff like for instance you use exactly as much muscle as you need to open your fridge but if you're doing something that requires more your body adjusts to it like

if you're carrying up like a bunch of groceries up a flight of stairs your muscles allocate more to use to suit those needs from an article in the bbc quote estimates vary but researchers have pegged the amount of muscle mass recruited during max maximal exercise at around 60 percent even elite athletes who have trained to get more output from their musculature might only harness around 80 percent of their theoretical strength why do we keep so much in reserve safety essentially if we were to exert our muscles to or beyond their absolute maximum we could tear muscle tissue ligaments tendons and break bones leaving us in dire straits that governor in your brain is there because if you were allowed to expand all the available energy your body has to use you'd probably

have died long ago or at very least you'd be completely debilitated due to all the bodily damage you would have suffered the people who are lifting cars are only lifting a small part of the car while two or three wheels remain on the ground distributing the weight plus their bodies are full of adrenaline and the state of shock will generally dull any pain that they might be feeling from the heavier lift and even so they probably feel pretty fucking sore afterwards yeah these parts of your brain can be overridden you know like the that governor like in cases when you're trying to escape certain death your brain realizes that in order to stay alive higher risks need to be taken on the other side of that coin this part of your brain also appears to be over

written when you're on meth or pcb which may play a role in explaining the seemingly heightened strength of people on those drugs in each of these cases however you're going to be pretty fucked up on the other side of doing whatever it is uh free of this governor in your brain that part of your brain is there for a reason yeah it usually helps out whenever you survive you know long after instead of just in the immediate you do a bunch of math and you do like these crazy feats of strength when you come down you're going to be in so much there are no consequences for actions dan how dare you if there's some kind of a magical thing that allows super soldiers like jason born to use more of his strength than normal people's brains allow them to he could maybe operate on the level of an

elite athlete if a person like a human person were to do what alex is imagining their bodies would not be able to handle it they're just physiological realities that he's pretending do not exist the way i would put it is this if your life is at risk you could jump down a big drop break your ankle and then run a mile to safety but when you get to safety your ankle is still going to be broken and it's going to hurt like hell because you just ran a mile on it yeah also i don't even think what the fuck do i know i haven't watched this born movie or as alex puts it read up on secret research maybe i'm just a fucking dumb dumb i don't even remember i don't think the born movies featured super soldier strength or anything like that he was just really really well trained and they gave

him some psychotropic drugs but he was really really good at being a spy or whatever that was a new language is something yeah that was it was more just like look at what happens when you're really competent like that's cool i can't i can't speak to exciting seeing those movies but they're all sure whatever alex got something out of it so that's great yeah you can't like you can't have your brain drop that governor without consequences first of all second of all there is a ceiling to it i don't know this is all just fantastical thinking and it's it's it's ludicrous yeah so alex is one of his big ideas is this predictive programming stuff right you know like they put they the globalists will put stuff on tv that they're going to do later

exactly like bonanza sometimes it has to do with they need to get your permission right of course there is that they have to tell you what they're going to do or else there's a karmic debt they have to pay in the afterlife or something just like with kerry who believes that you can only get sick if you allow the virus right sometimes there's a metaphysical aspect to it and then sometimes it's presented as trying to desensitize you to what they're going to do to make it easier right this next clip begins with alex talking about the predictive programming on that level the desensitizing level then alex loses his mind and starts screaming about his grandpa that i believe psychologist and psychiatrist know at the high levels not your pop psychologist and

psychiatrist that if you pre-program somebody and they've seen something in the comfort of their home that a decade later when they actually see it happen they'll be comfortable with it because they were eating chips and pizza that happened sex with their girlfriend while they learned about something horrible so their brain files in an area that's non-threatening that's why my dad's dad saw a lot of combat in world war two and they'd be in a movie when he was a little kid that had violence he'd say we're leaving it wasn't because he couldn't handle violence he'd seen a bunch of violence and starving people and then arms and legs blown off he didn't think it was funny but when you've never seen real violence and you see a bunch of simulated murder your brain starts thinking it's

funny because your brain didn't pay any consequence for it so now when you're hit with the real thing you don't know what hit you so first of all i'm going to need to see alex's citation on this stuff from the high end psychologists who are not pop psychologists i'll review his information when he tells me what he's actually talking about and where it's coming from in any meaningful way beyond that that clip is fascinating because i really think it highlights how poorly alex's brain tracks ideas it begins with him claiming that there are these high end non-pop psychologists who uh that you know that they know that if you see something on tv and then you encounter it later your brain will associate it with the memory of being at home with pizza so you'll see it as good

i can definitely tell you that it is not true from my personal experience in the last few weeks i've seen people get hit by cars a fuckton in movies and tv shows sometimes dramas and sometimes played for humor it doesn't affect me that much in a movie when i was walking to the store the other day a driver turning right didn't see me when i had the walk signal and i was legit seconds away from getting run over i heard the car accelerating and the split second as my brain was putting it all together you know it's definitely not what i would call associated with being at home eating pizza my reaction was quite different though i'd seen people get hit by cars many times in fiction this was very different because it was in real life and my adrenaline

rushed as i was considering jumping on the hood or trying to dive backwards thankfully the driver saw me at the last second hit the brakes and you know and nothing happened but as i was walking the next block my body was full of that rush you get after encountering danger being exposed to those things on tv and movies did not have a desensitizing effect on me primarily because i know the difference between real life and movies from this idea alex pivots to talking about his grandfather who didn't want his children to watch violent things in movies and tv because he'd been in world war two an argument could be made that this is the exact opposite of the point alex was trying to make yeah he's saying that seeing x on tv desensitizes you to x in real life whereas in

this example alex's grandfather saw x in real life and it made him hypersensitive to seeing it or his kids seeing it on tv whether or not this hypersensitivity was driven by a fear that the children would become desensitized to violence that's another matter but even if it is the case this is still a pretty shitty example for alex to come up with because it's thematically disconnected from the point he is trying to make from there alex makes the jump to arguing that if you see simulated violence on tv and you think it's funny so you think the murder is funny in real life you then weirdly claims that this is because you didn't see any consequences for the fictional violence you saw on tv which is weird as bizarre i don't know who he's hanging out with to get the

idea that a large number of people think real murder is funny but that's a foreign concept to me someone who almost exclusively hangs out with and communicates with people who have seen simulated violence on tv yeah and don't think it's real did you at least say i'm walking here i didn't you didn't that's a huge wasted opportunity no most people intuitively understand the difference between reality and fictional portrayals of things and instinctively they react differently to them the same person who could tolerate seeing the depiction of a murder in a horror movie or even enjoy it in the context of the movie would react completely differently if they saw something similar in the real world it would not be the same thing yeah do you remember meet joe black

whenever brad pit's character gets hit by like 12 different cars all at the same time and it's played for laughs like they're it's it's it's the weirdest scene in a movie that i think i've ever seen like a meet brad pit and uh what's her face like longingly look back at each other each expecting the other one to look back and it goes back and forth like four different times and then brad pit just walks into oncoming traffic and gets hit once bounces up in the air gets hit again by another car bounces up in the air continues getting hit like three or four times and then the scene is basically over and they just move on i've not seen that movie in a long time i'm sure i have yeah and it did not affect the way i responded to almost getting hit by a car because reality and

movies are different wouldn't it be fun if you bounced up and down and then the spiritual embodiment of death took over your body for a while and wooed your uh your paramour that's ridiculous okay so there are some studies that suggest that there is a desensitization effect that violent media can have on children and adolescents but the extent of its effect is almost impossible to pin down precisely consider for a second how you would even go about trying to set up that study ethically like to really track that ashton kutcher it's okay sir there are some correlations that people have found but they're far cry from the effect that alex seems to think the movies and tv have on a random person he's acting like if you see a bomb go off in a movie

you and you encounter a bomb in your daily life you're like it's like that movie cool the bomb yeah i've seen bombs before they make people laugh i've seen this before and i survived because it was a movie yeah no this is just as video games desensitize children in the yeah the same sort of such bullshit but but it's not just that right right alex's brain operates differently than most people and he just doesn't seem to recognize the distinction between fiction and reality he seems to be like it seems to be something he is unwilling or unable to differentiate between yeah there's no there's no blend i really do think that he doesn't realize that this is something that most people can differentiate since his confusion around why other people can't see what

he sees does seem genuine that frustration he's he manifests does seem like someone who's like it's so clear to me why don't you get it yeah and and that is that is wild to me the it don't you get it the hammers can fly now dan you just call them to you and the hammer will come directly to you whenever you need it i'm honestly starting to work on a little bit of a pet theory that this is one of the more like strongly correlating things throughout these conspiracy worlds yeah the inability or unwillingness differentiate between reality and fiction runs so strongly on info wars many of the associated people and project camalot and the quote-unquote experts they have it's it seems to be one of the defining characteristics

so alex has that rant and it leads to how we end the tenth and of course it's familiar territory your brain starts thinking it's funny because your brain didn't pay any consequence for it so now when you're hit with the real thing you don't know what hit you you're all dead unless you wake up to the scientific dictatorship the created hitler you laughed over him saying i need money to just go straight into an ad straight into an ad so we we wrap up the tenth sunday show in the books yeah all over the goddamn place yeah which i kind of appreciate on some levels i mean some of the stuff like i'd rather him not talk about like a mod arbery right rather you just leave that alone alex you're not allowed yeah um but then

like you know viking funerals pretty fun alex's weird uh fiction reality that's great new guinea like some of this stuff for hitler sure yeah yeah so this stuff's kind of fun yeah to to learn a little bit about and uh we jump in on the 11th and boy this day oof tell you what alex has a goal in mind oh no if you're a radio listener well you're not having to look at me right now but i am wearing the bill gates uniform uh that now mark zuckerberg wears it is a pink cashmere sweater with a white collared shirt to look like mr rogers or to look non-threatening i've said it many times that if hitler wore a pink uniform he would have won the war because he would have looked non-threatening this is really funny on a number of levels uh the first is that alex

decided this bill gates wears pink bit was so good that he decided to wear a pink sweater on air himself so he could riff about it that'll teach him you kind of can't help but think he's hoping people online make fun of him so you can be all over twitter again oh yeah the second part that's hilarious here is that alex is saying that if hitler wore pink he'd be non-threatening alex claims to be a military historian but somehow he doesn't realize that the us army officers winter service uniform starting in the 1920s through 1958 was known as the quote pink and greens the us army officer uniform during that very time that they were fighting against hitler literally had pink in the name of it and that's why we won the war dan sergeant dan daly told military

dot com that the uniform was called that because quote one of the sets of pants had a pink hue to them oh that's nice anyway the point is that alex is a complete buffoon and he doesn't know anything about the topics he's talking about he's just i i love it i love the idea that his operation so fucking incompetent that he's like you know what i'm gonna wear fucking pink yeah it's gonna be amazing everyone's gonna love it gonna love this gonna be it's gonna be a wild i'm gonna blow minds look at me alex jones wearing pink everyone will lose their minds over this and so i thought maybe it's just like all right he's gonna touch on this then he's gonna get out of business nope and as i've always said if hitler wore a pink uniform he would have won world war two because people would have

bowed down and said somebody wearing pink is nothing but good that's why bill and melinda gates always were pink in public it's why mark zuckerberg's gotten rid of his characteristic grayer black t-shirt and he now wears pink sweaters under his mentor bill gates i was curious about the claim that bill gates always wears pink so i decided to consult google image search i took the first 100 images of gates that came up and here's how his wardrobe breaks down here we go in 56 of the images gates is in a suit there's a number of recent pictures of him in a sweater that i wouldn't call pink it's more of a lavender shade of purple but i could see alex thinking it was too feminine and yelling pink it might as well be pink might as well be yeah there are exactly two pictures of

gates in a pink sweater and they are both from his 2015 ted talk about how we aren't ready for the next pandemic that we might face at least one of these is from a site that's heavily trying to insinuate that this is proof of a conspiracy naturally which makes me think that alex might just be seeing a bunch of bullshit conspiracy blogs posting a picture of from gates his five-year-old ted talk which is him you know making alex think that he's constantly wearing a pink sweater as for zuckerberg i have no idea where alex saw him wearing a pink sweater but i also don't care this is just a super weird hang up alex has about men wearing colors he thinks are feminine we better pray that he never finds out that trump wore a pink stripe tie to the corona

virus press conference back on may fifth or that trump sells a bunch of different pink ties now they're not that but they're they're manly pink tie stand there for they're they're the maga pink which is a different cue i understand than the so anyway i'm just glad that alex has gotten this out of the system and we can move on to other issues warren buffett more and more wears there we go and almost always poses with an ice cream cone look ice cream cone and it's like oh ice cream he's like a little boy he's like a little child he doesn't launder hundreds of billions in drug money got caught doing it in 2010 so this obsession with men wearing pink has got to stop this is too much if we've reached the point where alex thinks good compelling

content is just naming off his enemies and discussing the nefarious implications of what they're wearing recently this show is past its expiration date this is not hard-hitting stuff also just for fun i tried to find pictures of ron paul wearing pink shirts it was super easy same for nijal forage i will say that i couldn't find any pictures of yerbal senaro in pink but that totally makes sense since he's is invested in performative masculinity as alex is so yeah it shouldn't surprise anyone to hear that warren buffett is almost always photographed in a suit it's kind of his thing well you know i can't find any pictures of him wearing pink outside of the possibility of some pink dress shirt in a suit or possibly a pink tie also he doesn't get photographed

all the time with ice cream but he definitely has a few times and the reason isn't to make him look like a fun innocent child it's because berkshire hathaway the holding company that he owns owns dairy queen i was going to say yeah there's it's so obvious it's so fucking obvious it's the most ridiculously obvious thing that you could think but the only reason that he bought dairy queen is so later on in life he could fucking uh broadcast a predictive program no because it was a good deal broadcasting the also warren buffett didn't get caught money laundering in 2010 but there is real thing here that alex is misrepresenting in 2010 the dea conducted and concluded a 22 month investigation that had uncovered billions of dollars that have been laundered by drug cartels

through wakovia bank which by that point in 2010 had been bought by wells fargo of which berkshire hathaway is the fifth largest shareholder wells fargo didn't acquire wakovia until 2008 so this is definitely a pre-existing issue to berkshire's involvement with the bank there's definitely some shady shit going on with wakovia particularly during the 2004 to 2007 time frame but to imagine that somehow warren buffett was involved in that is ludicrous alex is just desperate to lash out at his imagined enemies to the point where he'll just outright make false accusations because he's been trained that there are no consequences for that buffett is too busy for to sue alex for this clear instance of defamation and alex knows it there's just enough reality

to the story that wakovia did get in trouble for laundering drug money in 2010 and alex knows that his listeners will find a headline about that and decide that alex's story about it is true he's just the most pampered of radio personalities when you get right down to it but he has the easiest fucking job imaginable yeah uh just too too bought like too frustrating and time-consuming to sue him yep and just a trained audience full of people who will just be like oh he is right i saw a headline yeah here's uh i think people would not appreciate our show if we just listed people and talked about what they wore although we might want to consider it because i think it would be easier i you're oh you're right you're right i could spend a lot

more time coming up with marinades just google image search different people and what look mitch mcconnell he wore that thing so he's yeah that proves it and he's got sevens on his stuff and that's obviously the devil the unbeaster whatever it is the real devil they want you to think it's six it's actually seven the greatest trick the devil level pearl that was figuring out numbers right so alex has another story here to get into thankfully it has nothing to do with the color pink i was getting a little tired it's time for green nope san antonio passed a law last thursday saying you'll be arrested if you say chinese virus they said because the who says it doesn't come from china and i guess the who could say the moon is made of cheese so ha ha so last

week the san antonio city council passed a resolution that just roundly denounced the use of the terms chinese virus and kung fu virus as being racist at no point in the resolution does it say you'll be arrested for using those terms it's really more just a declaration of a commitment to protect the safety and dignity of the asian residents of the city alex doesn't bring this up here but there's also a bit in this resolution about antisemitism which has been mocked by a bunch of people on the extreme right wing they fame ignorance and pretend that the city council is just crazy how's saying chinese virus antisemitic these loony left-wing safe space nuts are out of control and the resolution person perfectly spells that out if you actually read it

reading is hard for them though in the preamble to the resolution they include quote whereas the jewish community has been targeted with blame hate antisemitic tropes and conspiracy theories about their creating spreading and profiting from covet nineteen the city council was making a point of calling out the nature of propaganda surrounding covet nineteen which is good but it also opens the door to the very people relying on those antisemitic tropes and conspiracy theories to play dumb and pretend they don't get the point yeah but they're always going to do that anyway man my birthday the first thing my dad texted me that morning was oh happy birthday by the way yeah yeah yeah he like legit like hey how you doing with the kung flu and i texted him back i was

like i would appreciate it if you didn't not a great present yeah thanks happy birthday like that fucked up my whole day i'm sure like it really fucked me up bummer and i was like please don't i would appreciate you didn't do that and then he texted back it is what it is and i have not spoken to him since then i died yeah like i i i spent in my head all day writing this whole like the only reason that you associate diseases with a certain group of people is to set the groundwork for a pogrom later on and i just there's just no there's just no way to deal with there's just no way to deal with it yeah i'm sorry to hear that yeah no it's a bummer it's real fucked yeah so i don't think i don't want to mean to make light of this just move along no no please

i mean there's nothing else to say other than that's a bummer i can't be more furious yeah it doesn't get higher yeah so i don't think that the world health organization has ever said that the virus didn't originate in china it's just that calling it the china virus is a meaningless name that can only be used to stigmatize so they discourage it in the preamble to the resolution they say quote whereas covet 19 will not be stopped by political boundaries and was not created or caused by any race nationality or ethnicity and the world health organization is cautioned against using geographic descriptors that can fuel ethnic and racial discrimination that's the only time the world health organization comes up and it makes perfect sense what they're saying alex is lying

saying that the san antonio city council is saying that the world health organization says the virus didn't originate in china because he's a liar and that lie works better for him yeah so if you're keeping score in the 16 second clip that we listen to alex lied about the idea that this resolution was a bill to arrest people for saying chinese virus and followed that up with a lie about the world health organization saying the virus didn't originate in china it's like he's trying to set records it's amazing i land speed records i mean even in the even in the function of their conspiracy theory even if the chinese government somehow created this and then released it it's not the chinese people who released it sure it's the chinese people who are going to suffer from you

associating it with china right that is what's going to happen it's the people who are going to get fucked up yeah it's not like you calling it the kung fu is going to really shove it in she's eyes yeah yeah like it's just going to be somebody across the fucking street from you who gets harassed for the rest of the god damn yeah most likely yeah that's the consequence that you're willing into existence somebody who had nothing to do with anything the chinese government isn't going to be affected by you calling it oh you got us yeah cool so this episode got up to a rocky start a lot of focus on pink so but thankfully like i feel like we're free of that now and we can move on your david icat his little nod to bill gates with his little pink

shirt there we go well now i am wearing the pink shirt just to all show that he can be trusted look i'm wearing pink oh my god it just won't end he's this is very desperate tell me now tell me now dan sad attempt how many clips are we going to hear of pink shirt talk yeah we might be done for now although it is really funny because david icat is on the show he comes up later yeah and alex has said that david icat wore a pink sweater to stick it to sure to the bill gates and we'll we'll revisit that once david icat is back on the show i imagine so um so alex gets to reading some headlines here and you can tell from the way he's delivering these headlines that man you do not have a rebuttal for any of

this shit coronavirus spread accelerates in germany contagion within the white house would be catastrophic for u.s. national security g.o.p senators worry trump covid-19 could cost them the majority ap exclusive duck show top white house officials buried cdc report but depending on the graph they're 50 to 10 times lower covid-19 death rates than they predicted in the very same groups now put out all these new fake numbers and trumps like no i'm not putting these numbers out predicting giant deaths and millions more cases because he goes i don't trust your testing see that's alex jones right there doing a stupid mocking voice about a public health crisis because he has literally no other tools at his disposal to address these stories

he also can't ignore them and i think he thought he'd get more mileage out of the pink sweater than he did the one about the virus rates in germany i'm just going to leave that alone not because i don't care but because it's kind of complicated and secondary to what alex is talking about alex knows that he can't not address the fact that mike pence's staffer katie miller tested positive for covid-19 it's too big of a story and the possible implications of it are things that he doesn't want to have to play catch up with later if she was infectious the number of people who are possibly exposed to the virus include most of the executive branch leadership miller's husband is steven miller a high level advisor to trump and she works for pence this could be a disease

vector that touches a whole lot of folks and some of them like trump are in high risk populations with the virus it's not something that alex and really ignore alex knows he has to touch on this but there's not much he can do if he says that it's the globalists infected or to try to get to trump and this is basically an assassination attempt yep and i think that he knows that this is an escalation of his rhetoric that he probably shouldn't make the globalists are trying to kill the president and then the president tests positive well guess what it's fine if you like i guess for alex to be like they're gonna take him out or something but yeah this is too concrete this is too real if he's saying there's a current attempt on the president's life he's basically green

lighting all of his gone weird old listeners to do whatever they feel like they need to do and even he knows that's dangerous yeah so what are you left with there's no real option for covering that story other than to read it in a mocking tone this is like a bully who has no comeback who resorts to doing a dumb voice like that makes a point like that makes a point right that last story there is where this pattern is really on full display alex has absolutely no good explanation for why the trump administration buried that cdc report and the way he's talking about it makes it clear that alex doesn't actually even understand the story alex seems to think that this is a story that has something to do with projections and

graphs in reality the report that trump shelved was quote detailed advice from the nation's top disease control experts for reopening communities during the coronavirus pandemic presumably alex and all of his friends their goal is to reopen the country so it seems weird that the cdc came out with a detailed plan to help communities do just that and then the white house shelved the report on april 30th i have a theory i have a theory oh do you i think maybe he disagreed with the reports i think he was like i don't like this report seems hard so i'm gonna not have it maybe that could be so the associated press obtained emails that proved that the head of the cdc redfield had approved this report and sent it to the white house for approval but they

killed it and a quote staffer at the cdc was told we would not even be allowed to post the decision trees on may 7th the associated press reported on this buried document which looks really bad what looks even worse is that according to abc news quote after the story ram the white house called the cdc and ordered them to refile all of the decision trees except one that targeted churches an email obtained by the associated press confirmed the agency recent the documents late thursday hours after the news broke there's clear intention here and none of it's good it's a sort of thing where obviously trump wanted to reopen everything in a pretty rough shot uncontrolled way whereas the cdc's guidance was much more careful and measured which would be slower

and kind of a bummer instead of letting the expert advice be released they covered it up and when what's the evidence of the report was reported on by the associated press the administration tried to cover up that cover up by demanding the report be refiled it's all pathetically transparent stuff and alex knows the is absolutely no good argument for why trump would act like that if the goal is to safely reopen the country his actions make no sense so alex comes up with a completely fictional version of the story that has to do with these narratives where he misrepresents death projections from january this is the best he can do is reading headlines about a very serious thing like high level white house staffers testing positive for the virus or trump

burying reports that could end up jeopardizing public health just reads him in a mocking tone i don't even know why the why he's doing the show anymore if that's the best he's got i don't know that's ridiculous you can be very large and yet still be a child on the inside did you know that you know that your physical body keeps growing even if your maturity in the in the head part doesn't doesn't change i don't know how you feel good about this work you know what i'm saying like i feel some money if you want money you feel good i try pretty hard on this show and i still will sometimes walk away with like i could have done better yeah i can't imagine what i would feel like if i just went in on our podcast and was like we but do but do damn i can imagine

what it feels like freedom yeah it feels like complete freedom yeah we got to work our way towards a show where i can just make mouth noises that's a great show thanks spin off all right let's do it so in this episode alex keeps saying that he has like clips of bill gates saying that he wants to kill children of course he does right yeah and i'm like no you don't no he does and then he ends up playing it and this is so sad here's a few clips of bill gates talking about childhood death and depopulation and of course we have clips if i'm talking about death panels get rid of old people but here's some of the things he said

recently a chance for us to share uh things like producing childhood death and uh improving the nutrition so it's a chance of africa meet with scientists we see a lot of things that are going very well things like producing childhood death and improving the nutrition so of africa meet with scientists we see a lot of things that are going very well things like producing childhood death and so he clearly is saying reduce and alex is thinking he says produce yeah so they played the clip again and it's on a loop too they play a couple more times and then it's even worse because they play it slow down and it sounds even more like reduce things like producing childhood death and that doesn't sound like

produce wow but this is the smoking gun the bill gates looked really excited while talking about producing childhood death ish did heraldo just open a vault what the fuck just happened there that is wild oh man he could did he not listen to it before the show i mean i don't know it could just be motivated hearing because you know like sometimes when you tell yourself like if i told myself to hear produce there i probably could right but it's pretty clear he's saying reduce it it would take a lot of mental effort to to be like you have to want it yeah you got to really want it yeah yeah yeah so in this next clip alex gets to the issues surrounding the department of justice dropping the case against general flan oh it because it's very clear intent on

alex's part to hero cover up a crime big hero now he's covering it up because that's what he's hero he was hired to cover up crimes that's literally why the only reason you hire bill bar is to cover up like you're not hearing me no hero no i'm pretty sure that he admitted to lying to the fbi uh probably committed way more crimes than that so in covering this story alex has decided to focus on chuck todd on meet the press that's a good call right and then of course we've got the situation coming out with general flin and some of the articles dealing with that on info wars dot com how now even the doj is slamming nbc's chuck todd over deceptive editing of ag bar interview yeah how's that feel bar when the media lies about what you say

and then comes after you i've had the attorney general in new york who were considering legal action against you know say that i claim i have a cure to covet 19 or treatment i never said any such thing kind of dead yeah i love you just gotta make it about yourself gotta make it about yourself no matter what so chuck todd on meet the press interviewed attorney general bar and asked him quote when history looks back on this decision how do you think it'll be written on the show bars response was quote well history is written by the winners so it largely depends on who's writing the history the full answer the bar gave was quote well history is written by the winners so it largely

depends on who's writing the history but i think a fair history would say that it was a good decision because it upheld the rule of law it helped it upheld the standards of the department of justice and it undid what was in injustice i see both sides of this chuck todd very clearly did a bad job here and misrepresented the full context of what bar said and it's very hard for me to imagine that wasn't a decision that he made so fuck him but that being said even with the full context bars comment is fucking chilling and scary his first thought is still that history is written by the winners and then he clarifies that he thinks what he did was a good decision based on the rule of law that any fair history would show that feels kind of like rationalization of the

immediate answer that even he must have realized sounded a little bit villainous yeah that was that is a little bit like well so long as we remain in power forever i think it'll be a great decision guys it's it's the kind of thing where it's like i think that answer even with the full answer is fucked up no it's that doesn't excuse what chuck todd the way he presented it yeah even though i mean honestly i don't think it matters because the rest of it was a lie anyways sure you know no nobody even bill bar in his heart can possibly believe that what he did would be treated fairly by history well but but i mean come on but at the same time jeers must go to chuck todd first i don't even care no i don't even you cannot i don't think i

don't think so i i think in terms of like being a fair actor and looking at the things that are presented that is a misrepresentation because chuck todd did also say that he didn't justify this based on the rule of law for sure that is like a that is a concrete misrepresentation now you could say on the spirit of things right fine right that's not what chuck todd's job is right now i understand i my my feeling is it is we're getting abused by being fair and it is abuse for william bar to pretend anything other than that he's covering up a crime fine i'm abused by it fine i don't think i don't think chuck todd should have done an interview with him period i can agree with because he's just gonna lie i can i can agree with that

conclusion but i can't use that agreement or that conclusion to justify misrepresenting a person on a news show i agree with you you deteriorate the entire point of what you're doing i agree and in the process you don't achieve the goal that you want to give fire power to the people that would provide cover for the cover i agree or whatever i think it's i i don't know my issue is letting him talk in the first place fair enough yeah and another sort of show could i don't know justify like if it was a sasha baren cohen yeah or whatever yeah but that's not what chuck todd's doing no but while we're on the subject of things being taken out of context i should bring up that one of the major sources of justification for the department of justice

dropping their case against michael flinn has come out and said that her words were being used inappropriately as support for a conclusion she actually opposes former acting attorney general for national security mary mccord wrote an op-ed in new york times that includes the following quote in attempting to support its argument the motion cites more than 25 times the fbi's report of an interview with me in july 2017 the report of my interview is no support for mr bar's dismissal of flinn's case it does not suggest that the fbi had no counterintelligence reason for investigating mr flinn it does not suggest that the fbi's interview with mr flinn which led to the false statements charge was unlawful or unjustified it does not support

that mr flinn's false statements were not material and it does not support the department of justice's assertion that the continued prosecution of the case against mr flinn who pleaded guilty to knowingly making materially false statements to the fbi would not serve the interests of justice yeah the working theory according to some legal experts is that there was not good cause to drop the case against flinn but the department of justice came up with a weird technicality argument in order to avoid trump trying to pardon him which would have been a real clusterfuck that would have been a mess that no one in trump's administration would want to try and do yeah they will well they wouldn't they don't have to know no they don't have to know that's

true the department of justice argued that the lies that flinn told the fbi were not material lies which is to say that they weren't relevant to other cases and therefore lying about those things is not a crime this is not a very solid argument and in a in a in a sane world this would probably trigger an independent investigation into how the doj came to this conclusion alas we don't live in the sane world and so here we are and here again we have alex looking up to bill bar a guy who he should absolutely unequivocally hate based on everything he pretends to stand for and all of the issues that his career is based on i just don't understand how it wasn't immediately an arrestable offense to hire bill bar should be a red it was because that's literally like saying

oh yeah no i committed crimes that's why i'm hiring bill bar and it should have it remember when bill bar was the previous to remember when he was the attorney general before and he covered up all those crimes that's why i hired him and it should be something that completely fractured trump's base like it should it should have been something that lost him all of the right wing immediately support because they know who he is or they should know who he is think he's covered up all their crimes not that part of the right that's true that's true that's true i'm talking about his association with like ruby yeah ron contra are problems yeah for the patriot militia right wing they should have seen trump even thinking about hiring him and been like if he does that we're out

and then trump should have uh i guess he played it right because turns out they don't care they don't care they don't care he's murdering them right now and they don't care so we get back to talking about sweden because it's alex's favorite country or calm uh-huh and so he talks about the death toll uh from the virus in sweden and then he just makes some stuff up cool how many people we got dead in sweden let's let's see the numbers in sweden for me pretty please cupcakes on top 3256 in sweden what's the flu usually killing sweden every year i was looking at about 15 000 of course there's no deaths now in the u.s from flu because they're all attributed to covid covid covid covid don't have that as the new european siren on police car instead of

oh what inner civilization oh a panic over a virus this show is good so we have two claims being made there so let's look at them one at a time the first is that there were 15 000 flu deaths in sweden a year that's uh that's a claim that alex is making data published about the 2018-2019 flu season uh showed that labs in sweden only reported 13 757 total cases so that number uh he's got seems to be a little bit high yeah they reported 505 of these people died within 30 days of their diagnosis to give you some idea of the the scale in the 2011 2020 season the death toll almost hit 1 000 and from every indication i can find alex is just making up that number about swedish flu deaths if his number were accurate and you applied that rate based on sweden's

population to the united states we would have about 492 000 flu deaths per year which again leads me to believe that alex is just making this up those are all covid deaths now dan we have yeah maybe he just saw that they had about 14 000 cases last year and he's misrepresenting that and misreporting it as deaths whatever the case he's just presenting bad information to his audience authoritatively which is lame yeah also alex has claimed there's no cases of flu being reported because they're all being called covid 19 is complete lie you can easily find data on the cdc's website that reflects newly reported cases of influenza that are confirmed each week the number is going drastically downward because flu season is pretty much over as it usually ends

around you know like the end of march or in april yeah there are still 21 new cases in week 18 of 2020 which ended may 2nd and 26 cases the week prior you can find week by week data for influenza related deaths on the website too week 18 had 20 deaths and week 17 had 106 if you look at their data for previous years this is pretty much the very common pattern for flu seasons where death slowly increase as the season begins and then they gradually go down as we come to the end of the season this drop typically comes in week 16 to 19 of the year and sometimes a little bit earlier so this is all very normal patterns yeah they're not just calling all flu deaths covid 19 and there's very easily available data that shows that health officials are still counting flu deaths alex is

just making this up because it's important for his narrative to minimize the danger of covid 19 and because he's a lazy fucking fraud yeah which makes me actually kind of happy to hear this next clip where alex basically just admits that his life life's work has amounted to nothing i'm actually now moving to the country i'm actually building the armored fortress look like a farmhouse but it's gonna have steel walls i'm actually giving up on folks i mean spiritually we gotta get people right with god we're gonna try to fix things but we failed to stop the globalist takeover at this level we knew it'd be a biological weapon attack we first said it'd be a simulant to lock you down they're telling you that since in game 2007 and then the real bio attacks come after this

well you failed the whole point was to stop the globalist yeah failed yep so you've been you've done nothing yeah that's that's a fitting end yeah that is a fitting end he has accomplished nothing in his entire life and he should be ashamed of himself for being such a huge failure one of the things i started to think even in his own fake reality he's a giant failure let alone in reality reality where he's a massive destructive failure but i also think it was inevitable yeah i think that alex's operation is doomed to failure to begin with because it doesn't mean anything like none of the stuff he's talking about goes anywhere it's all bullshit right so like basically if you have smart engaged competent people in your audience they're gonna end up

looking into the things that you say and eventually they're gonna be like this guy's full of shit and they're gonna move on you're not going to be able to retain a decent audience of engaged critical people in the audience yeah so that self selects for people who are gullible or maybe dumb and that's going to be your audience base right yep so you have that as your audience base and eventually over time maybe some of them will start to realize that nothing ever happens right they start to realize well we're on the cusp of this great war against the globalists and eventually that might disenchant some of them yeah now some of them will respond to this by turning off their critical thinking that's in their brain right they'll just be like

fuck it whatever alex says is right is right we're on they're a hundred percent on the ride with him wherever it goes you could say they've given up and have failed in their day yeah and they'll just go along with it like alex is the only one telling the truth whatever a cultish devotion to the info war yep the other subset of people are going to be like alex is not doing it they'll find some other conspiracy maybe it's qanon maybe it's some other guru in that world who will also have a piece of their story be like hey alex is controlled opposition yep because that way they can start being conned by someone else and pretend that they've woken up yep they can pretend that they've seen through the bullshit and alex was conning them but this one isn't and so now

they're out of alex's revenue stream and that basically leaves a constantly inward and outward flow of people who get tired of the bullshit and move along and the only people who really stick around are people who have been trained in coach to turn off all sort of critical thinking capabilities that they have yeah and that is not i mean you know you can go for quite a while apparently using that as a fundraising right right right right but eventually you know you're not going to be able to do much with it it's going to be diminishing returns and as other things happen in your life like you get sued by everybody that base is not going to be able to maintain the standard of living that you've become accustomed to yeah with your million dollar studios and and all this shit

it's just not going to pan out this is destined to fail because it's a system that needs to continue and can't yeah because the content the content by its definition is a spinning wheel yeah it is it's never going to get anywhere and no matter how gullible you are sooner or later everybody wants to finally get somewhere true and they'll go somewhere else right yeah and so the only people who are not going to do that are going to be people who don't have a chance to begin with right they're kind of helpless to the fraud and manipulation that alex engages in and that's that's not going to be that's not going to be a base that is going to sustain you forever and furthermore it's not going to be like a base that's going to really

do anything no no and if you can't get another generation in to replace the people who go away it's always going to be dwindling yeah until it's nothing and there was a certainty kind of that alex would be able to do that while he was the big premier game in the conspiracy propaganda world but he's not that anymore yeah his ability to recruit is minimized by his social media bans you know it's the inflow has been stymied as opposed to the outflow continuing yep like it's just it's just screwed like you know when when i heard him say this like we failed i'm going to move to the country that kind of thing it's like this is this is kind of you you knew this was coming out you failed before you began right yeah you had some high highs and

it was pretty impressive a good ride yeah but this is this is kind of what happens you weren't building for the winter more or less because i think it's impossible everything so stupid that he's saying that he can't possibly get like anybody who's not in it like yeah either vulnerable or an idiot to be a fan yeah yeah yeah i mean if he's self selecting a like an impotent base right or less right not impotent like unable to reproduce but not able to do anything yeah yeah it's it's sad it's paranoid paranoid perpetually in fear and paralyzed by their slavish devotion to a guy who's supposed to be doing everything for them yeah and then think about how his business model also relies on self selecting people who are gullible yeah because like you know placebo

effect is his business model well back in the day it was like hey the summer of rage is coming and yeah economy is going to collapse so buy my friends gold and everything will be fine and you know turned into the globalists are slowly poisoning you so buy my supplements everything will be fine like those sorts of sales pitches are not things that you do with an audience that is critical yeah you know yeah critically minded the right thinking people would hear that be like go fuck yourself or they might look into and be like yeah you know maybe gold is an all right investment but i'm certainly not going to go with your shady ass for that guy scary as shit yeah or you know look into and be like do i really need the burpees

what's going on yeah it's it's uh it's it's sad it really just kind of bummed me out yeah anyway alex has a surprise coming up on this episode okay is osmandias coming you know san Antonio said they'll arrest you if you say the words chinese virus i hear a stunt coming well let's just say we got a surprise up our sleeves coming up next segment we'll show you what's going on nothing happened next segment i don't know if you play something later in the show but i was like i'm certain this is going to be fentin all the dragon yeah i'm certain it's going to be racist whatever it is yeah since he's presented to get as like related to the san antonio story i'm like he's going to go

fucking swing for the fences on some anti-asian right right right right right but i didn't i didn't hear anything i don't i don't i don't know what he was talking about i expected him to have somebody in san antonio saying racist shit in front of a cop that seems like the obvious thing for him to do get mark dice out there yeah just send somebody out there and be like i'm a racist and then see what happens so alex gets into like i like i said no payoff to this that i'm aware of alex go maybe it was something that didn't make the broadcast okay like the radio broadcast maybe it was only on his video version i should have checked i don't worry about it anyway we'll figure it out alex does a sales pitch uh for some products and this is one of the more

confusing things i've heard okay eight pack power stack eight pack power safton it's an am and pm pack 13 different pills 13 different supplements this is a way for you to give friends family yourself to boost your overall body's defenses to be healthy to sleep better everything it's 60 percent off so the eight pack power stack is 13 pills this is confusing so i went to the informer store to try and figure out what was up with this and as it turns out it's quote eight different formulas and some of these formulas are double pills the flex and joint support the new tropic brain and immune support formulas are each two pills whereas the other six formulas are a single pill if you do some simple math that is not 13 pills that is 12 there's even a visual on the

website that shows each of the pills and there's clearly 12 of them where's the 13th mystery pill alex what are you hiding uh uh oh it's the invisible pill that only men and info warriors can see dan is that right yeah they don't put it on the website because then just anybody could see it dan you got to order it and then if you're man enough the 13th pill will manifest for you see man manifest makes perfect sense yeah you you're you're right i know i should have thought of that you should have also it's called the eight pack power stack there are nine formulas do you did you hear me there's the flex and joint support new tropic brain and immune support that are two pills each and there's six that are one the am one the morning one has five

things in it and then the p m has four i can't imagine nine it's a nine pack power stack i can't imagine putting that much shit in your body it's a lot of pills that's a lot of pills yeah it's also none of the numbers match up and i don't know what's going on they need to really get their marketing in order i i think that branding is problematic i think it might be a little too late for that now could be yeah so alex goes to calls before david like shows up and i mean david we're not going to listen to much of that interview because i don't respect the man no why but alex takes some calls and he's a top biologist dude what he might be alex gets a call from someone who works in the medical field and this is the kind of hardcore information you're

going to get from alex's audience we're going into a hardcore tyranny we're all in grave danger it says you're a medical worker what's your view on the lockdown i'm i just check in patients at an mri office what is your view on all this my view it's over exaggerated what are the doctors and other medical workers around you think what's the consensus and they're just taking extreme precautions i feel like it's half and half some of them are buying into it some aren't well i appreciate you calling today anything else on your mind no good call i and appreciate her brevity great call brevity is the soul of lies i really love it great call i feel like we walk away from that having a whole lot more information to work with and i appreciate

holy shit oh man some of them are taking it seriously but we're all taking extreme precautions how do you feel about it i don't think i don't think it's a big deal me anything else you want to say nope okay then cool so alex goes to another caller and this guy has a quote for alex and alex should recognize this quote because it's one of the fake ones he uses of course how long can the media get caught staging things as long as we let them boss that what was the president that said i think it was james madison he said how long how far we're here to go as far as we let them go that's it brother god bless you i appreciate your call so this caller thinks it's james mad i'm real mad alex says it's thomas jefferson i'm real mad actually frederick docks i'm really

mad at both of these guys i'm really mad but i like that alex doesn't even recognize that this dude is using one of his fake quotes and misattributing it to a different dude i just don't it's funny i just don't man so alex talks about how there's nobody at the hospitals and what have you and they're faking things and all the people are still getting mri's apparently well that lady is checking people in yes i only i'm gonna play this clip because there's a really important point that i need to make about it i don't really care about a lot of his content but there's something that he's doing in this clip that is a big problem i got a threatening phone call from some folks saying we're gonna sue you you claim our hospital is doing that turns out it

was fake at that hospital so it's just because people be out front they notice no one be there for days all sudden 20 people in hazmat suits and a line of cars for the media and the same people were going in and out in circles now the reason that i played that is that is exactly the talking point that he uses about sandy hook yep the walking around in circles the media lining up cars that is just him taking his sandy hook talking points and reapplying it to hospitals during the coronavirus he needs to be f**king careful he's doing it again he's in the middle of this doing it again tragedy you just can't resist being drawn to denying tragedy so it's it's it's all he knows how to do to make money so there are people who are walking in and out performatively yes for the

media to so so they would be so when you're performatively doing something unnecessary in so you'd be you'd be like acting so it'd be like acting is what they would be doing i think if i understand this correctly this has to do with some video that came out of someone doing a remote shot and needing an establishing shot so like asking people to stand in a line or something like that so the news report would have b-roll or whatever sure and sure yeah all right that's cheating a shot or something but it it's not it's not the like dead to rights proof that alex is pretending it is and plus there's video of alex doing like things like that yeah it's not it's what tv news does yeah it's not dishonest but it's also not strictly honest or whatever wait until

wait until he hears about what they do on reality tv shows holy shit you know some of those lines that those reality tv star people say they were given to them by a writer dan can you imagine that wait till you hear what alex does in his documentary oh boy so earlier in the show alex is obsessed with pink sweater sure he speculated that david ike wore a pink sweater to stick it to bill gates he did it alex accidentally asks that's a bad idea david ike about this shouldn't follow up zuckerberg works directly under gates and admits he takes orders from him and wears the same pink sweater that's why i wore this pink sweater today did you wear your pink sweater in the in the last london reel as an ode to bill gates a little non-threatening pink sweater well i know oh yeah

well i kind of i think david ike just kind of likes pink sweater sometimes petered out that's fine yeah he should have yes ended that one ike uh no he doesn't need to because i don't think i don't think he understands what alex is like weird masculinity narrative is here yeah and david ike probably doesn't care that much about that no you can find a lot of pictures of david ike over the years wearing pink shirts and sweaters he has a fine wardrobe pink's a nice color yeah whatever i look pretty well i look pretty good in pink not bad so jordan this last clip here that we have we know that david ike has been coming on alex's show and saying that there is no virus it's completely fact that's because there is no virus alex keeps allowing him to come on the show

and doesn't really fight with him about that although he should because he's pretty big based on everything alex says he knows that there is a virus they are it's not a fake made-up thing right unfortunately every single time david ike is on he swings alex the last time he was on he swung alex and was like oh you're right this time alex like he's this is so stupid i hear them saying what it seems as if uh people aren't getting immunity even people that have had it they're not getting immunity but why am i getting immunity because they've never had anything to do with so what that's why it doesn't act like any virus had ever acted before because you're right it's just completely made up well alex puts the pieces together for him even david ike doesn't even need

to come to that conclusion alex does it for him uh so i guess when alex is like uh eventually when people are like hey alex remember you said that there wasn't a virus to be like i didn't say that we just had david ike on me gave other perspectives yeah that's what he thinks that is yeah that's not what that is that's wild that is alex agreeing with you can't do that no you can't you just can't it should be that you can't like that should be a part of every human being's brain where it's like i can't do that yeah i can't do that thing yeah that thing that i was going to do where i said everything that i believed was false and i agree with you and then later five minutes later i'm going to completely forget that i'm gonna be fucking defensive about it i'm gonna be real mad

about it oh yeah saying that i said how dare you make me think that i said that thing that i think i said that i know i didn't say i think i said it's fucking stupid well pointless uh anyway this was a wild walk through a couple days of alex's rangey nonsense yeah um but we have we have reached the end and uh we'll see what happens on uh our next episode on friday check back on the rest of the week see if alex falls apart completely and disowns his show why not or you know gets i'd really like to hear more articulate more about how his life is a failure i'm i'm hoping for a real coach megerk style like rips off all of his clothes and just goes into the forest leaves the guns behind yeah races the blade yeah no the man the man episode with a coach megerk sure yeah that sounds

great we'll see what happens in this protracted meltdown that alex seems to be having it never ends now unfortunately or maybe a will who knows can't wait so we'll be back but until then we have a website we do have a website it's knowledge fight dot com yes it is we're also on twitter we are on twitter it's that knowledge underscore fight and i go to bed geord and we're also on facebook we are a facebook if you'd like to subscribe to really leave the patreon but if you would like please donate to a local charity in your area it would very much benefit yes we're back but until then i'm neo i'm leo i'm dzx clark i'm wearing a pink sweater to stick it to zuckerberg andy in chansas you're on the air thanks for holding so alex i'm a first

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