Knowledge Fight - #433: May 12-13, 2020

Episode Date: May 15, 2020

Today, Dan and Jordan discuss a couple days of this week on The Alex Jones Show. In this installment, Alex fails in a valiant attempt to make a point, possibly warns the world of a fake alien invasion..., and gets a little too specific about what movie he pretends he was offered a starring role in.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys knowledge fight and your knowledge fight need money stop it Andy in Kansas Andy in Kansas it's time to pray Andy in Kansas you're on the earth thanks for holding I'm a huge fan I love your work knowledge fight no no no I love you everybody welcome back knowledge fight I'm Dan I'm George we're a couple dudes like sit around drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Joe oh indeed we are Dan Jordan Jordan quick question what up what's your bright spot today my bright spot I guess is I've been going back and listening to a little bit of old stuff that I haven't
Starting point is 00:01:17 listened to in a long time what kind of old well old music like there's stuff like a black star you know most definitely quality oh I know and the high tech in quality the reflection eternal album that was great like those two albums are things that I listened to almost nonstop when I was you know 20 yeah they were but because of that they got so played out that I couldn't listen to them right I just listen to it so much and like so it's been the better part of a decade probably since I've put one of those albums on yeah and the other day I was exercising and I put on I was like I wonder if this is as good as I remember and a lot of it is like that distance of not having listened to it yeah yeah yeah made me
Starting point is 00:02:00 able to listen to it again I appreciated that it was kind of nice yeah last year I on a related note last year I listened to black on both sides for the first time in like 10 years and I was like holy shit this is so good yeah it's good it's nice to have those moments where I can go back a little bit to something that maybe I couldn't enjoy as much as I originally gave because of overexposure to it so that was nice how about you uh my my bright spot is that the weather in Chicago is for the first time in a goddamn nearly nine months pretty nice out yeah pretty nice took a bunch of walks today nice great and then because we live in a cave underground if you come back and it's there nice and cool inside it's fantastic that that is pretty nice that's perfect I'm glad
Starting point is 00:02:42 you're enjoying that I hope people don't enjoy it too much I'll get bored with it tomorrow no I mean I hope they don't enjoy it too much in terms of just going around and everybody ending up at the park in Wisconsin come on sneezing on each other hey yeah so it's good that's fun nice bright spots uh Jordan today we got an interesting episode to do all right we're going to be talking about May 12th and 13th 2020 a band this is 2020 god damn it now that would be Tuesday and Wednesday of this week I wanted to throw Thursday in but it was impossible because this episode infuriated the shit out of all right that's what that's going to give you two pieces of spoiler in advance for what will come up on this episode okay one is another round of my
Starting point is 00:03:22 favorite game which is Alex says he's going to prove something all right and then tries to you love it I love when he does that yeah it's always disappointing I never should get my hopes up no ever but that happens and then Alex makes a reveal of one of the biggest fucking lies and one of the funniest lies I think I've ever heard him tell all right and I there's no way that I could tease it and it not live up to like being one of the most absurd things okay you could ever imagine all right you've you've overteased things in the past and they've always paid off never they have always paid off so we're going to get down to business on that but before we do you take a moment to say thank you some folks who signed up and are supporting the show and to check in with the year of the
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Starting point is 00:04:45 thank you to a couple folks who signed up on an elevated level and appreciate that very much so drew l thank you so much you are now a technocrat and this one i'm not sure if it's nips or knips k n i p p s ooh thank you so much you are now a technocrat i'm a policy wonk crikey mate that's fantastic have yourself a brew how's your 401k doing bro all right we got to go full tilt buggy on this Watson all right let's just get down to business we ain't making that money off that heroine why you pimp so good my neck is freakishly large i declare info war on you thank you so much uh drew l and thank you so much knips yes thank you very much to both of you if you're out there listening and you're thinking hey i enjoyed the show i'd like to support these gents too you can
Starting point is 00:05:24 do that by going to our website knowledgefight.com clicking the button says support the show we would appreciate it or if you'd like to take that generosity and funnel it towards a local charity that helps people in need in your area that would be wonderful we would appreciate either yes so Jordan you're the seltzer marches on we are in week four now week four week four coming in on the end of you know what you'd describe as the first month right we're officially at 65 seltzers down and this week i made a discovery of something i i remember liking from my childhood or younger years and that was canadian clearly clearly canadian yes we purchased it at the we purchased it together yes i recall and i got to say never have i found a more rangy beast than clearly canadian
Starting point is 00:06:09 i you haven't had strangely australian yet no that's true that is coming up yeah okay so i found three varieties yeah we have the country raspberry okay wild cherry right mountain blackberry okay country raspberry pretty good all right coming in at a 69 right out of 100 okay i knew something was up because i looked at the bottle of the clearly canadian and it said sparkling water beverage what do you need to say water beverage i don't know what you do it anymore what i didn't realize that the clearly canadian definitely has like sweet name yeah there's sugar in it or something okay okay because it but the country raspberry was tolerable and same with the mountain blackberry it was all right okay wild cherry there was something wrong with that something wrong with it was
Starting point is 00:06:55 so bad had a cherry was too wild it might have got it was a it was a raucous cherry okay um that fella's coming into 22 oh 22 is bad i had a viscerally negative reaction to what did you bring out in hives i might have yeah i started listening to the hives i'll get the better than i remember that's worse i don't i don't remember what their song was exactly um but yeah so clearly canadian it's like it's it's not like they're incapable of something fine because their country raspberry was pretty good right but that wild cherry you got to get rid of that flavor okay all right letter writing campaign on par with klondike donut bars yes we got to get in there absolutely so this has been the year of the seltzer we'll check back in next time and find out what
Starting point is 00:07:40 we find out let's do it so uh jordan we got uh we got this may 12 and the 13th episode to go over it's gonna be a bumpy ride and here is an out of context drop from today's show last week around the table we all joined hands my wife and rex was over visiting he's already moved out we all joined hands and prayed for rush limbaugh god we don't need to lose him man can you imagine feeling like oh man we got to direct our spiritual energy towards saving rush limbaugh it'd be such a weird feeling to be around the dinner table and just like you know dear heavenly father look after rush limbaugh excuse me hold on one second what was that dad i guess it's a little less surreal because alex is in the same field as him so it kind of it's kind of like
Starting point is 00:08:27 their contemporaries or something right still being like alex's son sitting or praying for rush limbaugh being fucking weird here's my prayer for rush limbaugh lord i remain totally neutral and whatever you decide to do to him you know that's on you do what you're gonna do yeah so we start off the show and there's a bit of random nonsense at the beginning of this and alex is talking about how like if you see through the globalists plan you understand it really easily but most people don't see through it like himself sure and then he has a very strained metaphor that he tries to make but for anyone that actually studies the globalists and how they operate and what their in game is and what makes them tick and what their philosophy and ethos is
Starting point is 00:09:14 this is like shooting fish in a barrel it's like two plus two equals four it's absolutely elementary my dear Watson but you've got to have the courage to admit what's coming at you and i like it as an allegory or an analogy or oh no to most big comments and asteroids that end up being found aren't found by the big radio telescopes are not found by the big observatories most of them are found by the millions of amateur astronomers that have high powered uh equipment now thanks to capitalism so that probably sounds pretty good to Alex i don't know we'll get to we'll get to he there is a extended metaphor he's trying to make but he gets really distracted because he starts talking about the capitalism of course amateur astronomers
Starting point is 00:10:07 sure why yeah but what he's saying isn't true amateur astronomers do not discover most of the near earth objects that are found each year and in fact they barely even make a dent in the tally that's why it's always a big story when an amateur does discover one which gets a lot of press and leads people like alex to assume that this must be always the case if professionals at the big telescopes were finding comments all the time how come i only read headlines about amateurs finding them you can easily see how that selection bias that alex's brain uses to land on a narrative and that's what's going on you know he doesn't do any research on the topic he decides what he's just big thought up was true yeah many reports to his audience is fact it's very sloppy work the ceo
Starting point is 00:10:44 mcdonald's starts slinging burgers one day everybody's gonna be like oh they said motherfucker but you know every the day to day people work right like shut up and do your fucking job one of the things that makes headlines is the anomaly the case that is not like the others but if you only see headlines that are pointing out the anomaly you'll think the anomaly is the normal thing exactly and a lot of this perception that amateurs find more than the professionals it's probably partially due to the fact that like hail bop was found by amateurs that high-profile nature of that story could have easily left people with a different perception than is real according to a 2015 paper co-written by members of the jet propulsion laboratory the minor planet center and the
Starting point is 00:11:23 universities of hawaii and Helsinki quote from 1998 through 2013 only about 1.8% of the 10,044 discovered near-earth objects were found by the amateur community okay it's not what alex thinks all right it's a minority majority right i understand sure compared to me they discover more see there you go fair enough according to nasa quote while the nasa supported professional astronomers discovered the vast majority of near-earth asteroids amateur astronomers provide many of the follow-up observations needed to pinpoint the orbits and predict the future motions of the asteroids once a new near-earth asteroid is discovered the efficiency with which amateurs provide these follow-up observations allows larger professional telescope facilities
Starting point is 00:12:10 to continue scanning the skies for more new discoveries there is that cool professional amateur collaboration that does go on in the field of watching the skies but it's very very clear that what alex is saying is not true it feels true to him though because he never reads past a headline about the many discoveries that are made and he never reads headlines about the discoveries that are made by scientists and professionals at the labs because they don't make headlines now they're they're just taking credit for all that what's what's an amateur other than you know like who's to say the people at nasa aren't finding these on their off hours that's still technically amateur see there you go i don't know about that so i think the larger
Starting point is 00:12:48 point that he's trying to make is that he's the amateur astronomer who sees the metaphorical comet heading towards us which is of course the globalist's evil plan that's the metaphor that he's trying as far as i fell and then like the professionals at nasa are like the media or something you know basically yeah why not that's the broad stroke what he's saying sure i say i think that's the point because alex really doesn't complete the metaphor yet instead he gets lost in thought thinking about the stars and in the process he makes an admission that i find remarkable back in 1993 i had to go down to a university warehouse and pay twenty five thousand dollars for a 12 inch refractor telescope that had just come out that had the mcdonald observatory technology in it
Starting point is 00:13:33 that had cost tens of millions of dollars but now was miniaturized and i could aim it at jupiter aim it at shattered aim it at uniris aim it at pluto aim it at venus aim it at mars and it would track name five more planets sky tiny servo motors that go out in the whole country sometimes by myself with a six pack of beer and spend all night looking at the stars i believe some of that i like that story that's a cute little story it's cute except for some details right well alex jones was not alex jones in 1993 he wasn't even on the radio until 1995 and yet somehow he was able to buy a twenty five thousand dollar telescope at that point in his life as dad worked on the ca is dentist astronomy isn't even something that i would consider a big interest of
Starting point is 00:14:19 alex's based on everything i've heard from his show it's not like he talks about it frequently as a hobby he does talk about going to the stars a lot but it's not like you got to look for where you're going first and he looks at the stars all the time this should give you some sense of the kind of money alex comes from because if alex bought a twenty five thousand dollar telescope back then it wasn't because he was making loads of cash he's talked about his earlier jobs and there were things like assisting at a vet clinic and carpet cleaning by the way that twenty five thousand dollars in 1993 would be over forty four thousand dollars today adjusted for inflation so that should give you some idea of the type of purchase he's talking about on air
Starting point is 00:14:56 that's basically a year's salary at any of the jobs he's claiming to have had prior to getting into radio yeah well i remember when i was around that age and my dad helped me get a loan for my first car that cost twenty five hundred dollars that wasn't really negotiated well so i think it's a very similar experience for many people that have your dad just buy you a telescope for twenty five grand i don't think so i think that's normal so i would say that's pretty clear that's either a lie or an indication that alex's parents were super rich and he basically just got whatever he wanted growing up pretty much the specifics of this story lead me to suspect the latter since he's knows names of things yeah yeah there's a lot of specifics to that story he's telling and it looks bad
Starting point is 00:15:36 yeah that's not good makes me think it's more true because why why else would you tell the story about like being before your career as a successful person i pulled myself up by my bootstrap bootstrap sure my parents had twenty five grand on them to drop on stealing laughing gas for that would be funny clinic that'd be great i would appreciate that more yeah so alex continues this metaphor a little bit and it what it ends up becoming is sort of this fantasy where you know again i think i think those analogues that i was saying like he's the amateur astronomer that kind of thing this is where he sort of tells a story about it and i think that there is this is kind of sad the establishment isn't really looking they're just posing like they're
Starting point is 00:16:22 scientifically curious he's talking about the people in the right right the telescopes they're not really looking because the amateurs find everything right right and imagine you see coming out of the kuiper bell out past pluto a tenth planet a twentieth planet a hundredth planet there's hundreds of them out there now they've scanned what and it's coming in pluto is not even a planet anymore bro amateurs astronomer and i've taken photographs of this thing entering our solar system it's now past pluto it's coming in at a million miles an hour and it's going to get here in six months and you go tell your local news you tell the fbi you tell the local astronomer club and they laugh at you but more people begin to aim their telescopes up in the
Starting point is 00:17:11 sky and they pick it up and they see it coming in and then you ask the question how did all the government and industry observatories not see this how did the cia not see this how did nasa not see this and then you come to realization oh my god they know this planet's coming in to our solar system why did they make the decision not to tell us and then you come up with the realization with the mathematicians that it's going to hit earth so you do need professionals they don't want us to panic but if we panic we could put spacecraft out there and go out and meet it with nuclear weapons and
Starting point is 00:18:03 blow it up this is the plot of the fifth element realization they want humanity to die and then you look at that planet a little bit closer and you notice it's got a ion trail behind it is the fifth element pulsing system behind it and it's not a planet it's alex you just watched the fifth element aimed at earth to kill us it's an alien attack and then you look at your leaders and you say where's milla why are you doing this now that's an allegory the jones believes that ten planets and they kill the earth and aliens running no i don't believe that i i i i think that he hoped someone would make that yeah totally totally i want to applaud alex though because i mean on some level that's a coherent metaphor for what he's trying
Starting point is 00:18:53 to say he usually isn't capable of that right because all of it more or less tracks like the point that he's trying to make yeah the planet that's coming in is the globalist sure sure he's the amateur astronomer who finds it talks about it he talks about it the media makes fun of him because they're in on it they know that the globalist plan is coming and they want it to come no i get the other people who pick up and start looking at the planet are the people who he's indoctrinated into his cult right and the conspiracy theory followers right he has right right the the planet but having a motor on it is you know whatever that's the fifth it's a false flag it's the fifth element right i don't care where it comes from or anything like that i don't i understand it does track it makes
Starting point is 00:19:36 sense it does usually is not capable of that that's true i applaud him okay it's faint praise but in terms of it like oh yeah that kind of you know i get i get what you're saying he usually gets so grant he did get lost in that a little bit but he usually falls completely off track before he's able to make something kind of make sense right right right so i like that hey even a you know a picture can bat a 0 85 you know as somebody can hit a ball every now and again yeah so unfortunately even if the metaphor holds there's some holes in his thinking yeah for instance what if you're an amateur astronomer and you find an asteroid you insist is new and of course it's on its way to hit earth and when you tell the professionals about it they don't take you seriously because they've
Starting point is 00:20:20 known about this asteroid that you think you've discovered and the calculations you made about its orbit are wrong i imagine you might respond to that by lashing out and saying that they're just trying to cover up your work but it's also possible that you did a bad job of seeking asteroids and they're just not impressed with what you bring to the table uh or what if you tell astronomers that an asteroid you found is secretly an alien attack is evidenced by some weird engine you imagine you found and then they take a look at your evidence and tell you that you're mistaken that's a rock formation you think it's a jet engine and your imagination is fun but you're just making things up i think you're being judgmental i'm extending his metaphor i'm jumping into his metaphor and
Starting point is 00:20:58 playing around with it is what i'm doing i can see what's going on here i can't usually do that because his metaphors make no sense but in this case i can actually engage with it a little bit and i think that uh i think even in the hypothetical realm that he's talking about you can clearly see how like oh no you didn't you didn't find an asteroid now you just think this is astroid because you don't understand astrology gary oldman isn't coming for you man 25 000 telescopes will not give you an understanding of space you still need to learn i don't know if that's true i don't know if that's true what if i just believe maybe yeah so in this next clip alex teases that he's got some inside baseball about trump coming up you know i thought about talking about the president
Starting point is 00:21:40 what really goes on in the white house from my sources to give you a bird's eye view or a fly on the wall view into just how interesting trump is he watches tv and eats junk food shut up asshole i don't even know if i can do it justice because it's actually a lot of it's critical of the president but then a lot of it's positive of the president you know what last segment of the shower remind me to do it guys i will i'll tell you what's really going on with trump and it's very very sad it's very very pathetic that's also very very empowering and real globalists are poisoning his diet cokes yep that sounds better i don't think he actually does get back to this because i don't know what he's talking
Starting point is 00:22:39 about you sure having listened to the episode i don't know what the reveal i guess i think someone forgot to remind him or he doesn't like it when people remind him things he said that could be so um in this next clip we get to alex talking about how cool it is to drive fast but he's not telling the story to sound cool because sounding cool is uncool this is a guy who's obsessed with coolness i don't drive fast anymore but i have had a car up to almost 200 miles an hour it's fun you just gotta get on a stretch that nobody's on like i-30 out here oh my gosh midnight out there there's not a damn car three four lanes absolutely smooth that's one about 150 a while back there's one hump about 20 miles south of austin and the car just goes like duke's a hazard man
Starting point is 00:23:27 duke's a hazard all right let's stop right there this is a news show i don't tell these stories to act cool because acting cool is the most uncool thing there is hell yeah man i think that's the most uncool thing there is so he's not telling stories to look cool because looking trying to look cool is the most uncool thing so in the essence he is trying to look cool by saying that he's not telling stories to look cool this is a this is quite a paradox also yeah man back when i was like 18 i used to love driving over big humps really fast alex is 46 that's a pretty cool story he's a fucking adult so anyway there this is bridging two things it's like they're driving really fast and like i you know i'm not telling cool stories
Starting point is 00:24:19 that's one side of it but the other side of it that is the coolest stories is alex talking about meeting all these famous people right he doesn't care about meeting famous people why would you and so apparently one of them the most famous thing you can do is be not famous dad indeed yeah so one of these famous people that alex has had interactions with may have gotten in trouble for interacting with alex i didn't know they tried to indict mark cuban for meeting with me came out of the new york times later mark cuban released the emails of the u.s attorney southern district threatening to arrest him if he put one of my films and movie theaters mark cuban had already not done the deal so this is about how mark cuban owned a company that was
Starting point is 00:25:03 in talks to distribute the 9 11 film loose change this documentary in quotes was not created by alex it was the work primarily of jason bermas and dylan avery released in 2005 the film was considered what they called a living document which is code for things and they were constantly shown to be wrong so they had to keep re-editing the film to make the super embarrassing stuff not be in it yeah that's a smart move in 2007 the third version came out called loose change final cut by this point it was pretty popular property in the conspiracy theory world and alex signed on as an executive producer for the final cut version did they get rid of harrison ford's dubbing on that one no they're still in there oh damn it actually apparently from one of the things i read charlie
Starting point is 00:25:45 sheen was like i the idea was he was going to narrate it sure but at that time he had some of a career to worry about so jason bermas would go on to be one of alex's co-hosts on info wars in those earlier days and he even had a short-lived show called the info warrior but from everything i can tell his work on loose change predates all of that dylan avery incidentally has gone on to continue working in movies and in the industry and not on conspiracy documentaries probably because that was never his goal to begin with at the age of 18 dylan avery came upon a publication called the terror timeline which was put together by a researcher named paul tomson this is a collection of articles that trace the roots of al qaeda middle east politics and the forces that
Starting point is 00:26:29 led up to 9 11 many of the prominent early 9 11 truthers used inconsistencies that they found in these articles to demonstrate their conspiracy theories okay avery was inspired by this book to make a movie according to an article in slate this was quote about a group of three friends who discovered a government cover-up essentially he was going to make a fiction movie about people discovering that the government did 9 11 but he realized that was too expensive so he made a documentary about the government doing 9 11 instead okay so he just made the blare witch project yeah but he was into it at the time sure he was into the conspiracies i'm sure the people who made the blare witch project were pretty into the blare witch project
Starting point is 00:27:06 so this article in slate from 2011 was written by a guy named jeremy stall who actually spoke to avery for it from the article quote he still says he supports the movement but he also acknowledges getting quote sucked in deeper than he should have been into a hardcore mentality that it was almost too easy to get into back then because the war had just started and everybody was just so pissed off back then when he says he still supports the movement he means that he saw some unanswered questions about 9 11 but that's not what loose change was about primarily dylan avery was a bright ambitious youth who channeled his energies into the world of conspiracy and it's kind of heartening to know that at least to some extent he got out of it i found a 2017 interview with him in the
Starting point is 00:27:49 outline which has some fun lines for instance when the interviewer asks him where he gets his news part of the answer is quote i never did rely on info wars as a source but i definitely don't now anyway it's just kind of funny that the director of the movie that alex claims as his own which helped really put alex on the map as the face of 9 11 truth movement has moved on from all that and definitely thinks alex is an idiot i think we all need to grow up someday so one of marx cuban's companies was going to distribute loose change unrelatedly the sec was investigating mark cuban for insider trading in the course of that investigation cuban released some emails that he'd received from a lawyer at the sec who was talking some real mad shit about how cuban
Starting point is 00:28:29 was a quote anti-american ideologue all right this lawyer definitely sent these emails because of cuban's almost distributing loose change but he had nothing to do with cuban's insider trading investigation he was suspended for for two weeks for his behavior and then eventually fired by the sec for sending more emails to places like the washington post and an internal sec email which were determined to be inappropriate according to a 2012 article in Reuters this lawyer jeffrey norris won a federal appeal in his case that he deserved to quote a chance to get his job back by presenting medical evidence that those actions won't happen again see he argued that his life situation was chaotic back when he sent those emails and that he'd been seeing a psychiatrist and
Starting point is 00:29:12 the circumstances in his life had improved to the point where it wouldn't be that again sure sure sure business insider was able to find some internet comments that norris made around that time of those emails and it kind of seems like he just particularly hated mark cuban uh cuban partially because he was a big mavericks fan in one comment norris suggests that cuban threw a recent game against the warriors for some financial motive all right it partially sounds paranoid and partially like a guy fucking around and just talking shit about mark cuban it's unclear i kind of like this guy i got it i gotta admit i'm i'm not against this dude if it felt like he was a little more in control of what he was doing and he wasn't in a position of being an sec lawyer i might be more
Starting point is 00:29:52 inclined to enjoy it but i get what you're saying i mean i would prefer more sec lawyers were hatred of mark cuban i'm fine with that doesn't affect their work whatever anyway this lawyer had nothing to do with cuban's sec insider trade in case but because it helps heighten the myth of alex jones alex has turned it into proof that the sec admitted emails that they were threatening to indict cuban for distributing alex's film of course all that's complete bullshit of course so now jordan yeah remember i told you at the beginning of this my tease that alex would have my favorite lie mic down for this okay this is breathtaking once you don't want them they really want you it's like okay in hollywood that is here's a three million dollar deal to star in this movie
Starting point is 00:30:35 it's a space fantasy movie and uh you're a space captain and i remember they told me the movie and like six years later i'm in the theater watching this big huge movie and i'm like wow it would have been cool to play that guy but it's like the most valuable thing in my life other than my children and and doing the right thing well it's not most valuable but like for things like that is that that's a big giant franchise you know kurt russell was in the second and i turned it down how freaking cool is that man that is like incredibly valuable to me that in the final equation they were offering me major huge movies just to join satan so i think you know what he's talking about do you know what
Starting point is 00:31:31 movie he's talking about guardians of the galaxy he has to be talking about guardians of the galaxy i consulted that's the only one that can make sense and i consulted his entire filmography and there's only one movie that's a sequel that kurt russell wasn't in the original and is a space fantasy movie because like kurt russell was also in like escape roulette but he was in the first one yeah exactly he was in uh fasten furious seven and uh after the the fate of the fallen right or fate of the furious whatever right but he wasn't like that's not a space fantasy movie yet and he was in the first soldier but he wasn't in the second soldier he was it's definitely guardian it's guardians of the galaxy he thinks that he was up for the chris pratt roll yeah in
Starting point is 00:32:15 guardians of the galaxy he thinks he's going to be star lord that so so he thinks that james gun was like we don't even need to don't audition anyone right get me jones all right yep wow wow that's pretty awesome that's a that's a delusion that's a delusion so the first guardians of the galaxy film came out in 2014 so presumably alex was given this often offered to star six years earlier which would have been 2008 which unfortunately predates the start of pre-production by about four years at that point in 2008 the script for the movie hadn't even begun to be written so it's pretty weird that alex would go see a movie and then realize it's the one he was supposed to star in considering this movie didn't even exist as an idea at the point he was pretending
Starting point is 00:33:03 he was offered the starring role fucking idiot i love this i was i was you know i got this role to play this billionaire rich playboy all right and he makes an iron suit he goes into he goes into iraq or whatever and he gets captured i don't know how it ends but it turned out that guy did all right i'll tell you that right now they gave it to some drug addict instead of me they offered me kiss kiss bang bang too i'm just saying i was going to be val kilmer's role though so these are the sorts of things that alex are just keep vague like it's cool to say that you were offered movie roles i still don't believe it but i'm not going to laugh in your face about it when alex starts throwing around identifying details like this the lie is just too egregious
Starting point is 00:33:45 it's so funny just imagine he doesn't have the range he doesn't have the range for any of those characters including group he doesn't have to do it i am group god damn it i'm gross stop stop improvising also according to style caster chris pratt only made one point five million for the original cardians well he was just coming out parks and rec you know he was a beloved cast member he wasn't a big star yet oh he was he was one of the most liked parts of parks and rec and he'd been in a few movies already yeah but he was just a tv guy come on the alex's radio he had a role yell against a bullhorn in a movie let's get him front and center he's the draw he's the only reason people will see this movie get the fuck out of here they offered alex three million
Starting point is 00:34:39 then he said no so they gave an established actor half see now this is the this is what i'm talking about when i'm talking about labor issues in this country sure god i heard that and i was like well we're done i'm gonna that's the episode just reimagining guardians of the galaxy i want it i mean you might think that he could do the michael rooker role but he's actually super complex no michael rooker is an incredible actor but he's a little more the character is more angry sure sure i can see that there's a complexity to that anger that alex would be incapable of translating right who could he be in that movie nobody i i'm telling you can't be drax he could be no he can't be drax gamora now i don't think he could pull that off i don't even think he could do the
Starting point is 00:35:27 opening crawl scene with chris pratt dancing i don't think that's a he would be distracting as an extra oh fuck you alex i didn't think about how he would be an avengers the end game the fuck out of here get the fuck out of here that universe is way more fun than ours yes it is in that universe that movie would be very different all right well we've had our oh man now i don't i don't think i'm done yet i'm just gonna i'm just going to taste that for a while i'm gonna roll that around in my mouth for a little bit just when times when times get tough in this episode imagine alex with his thick ass neck in
Starting point is 00:36:12 that chris pratt's outfit it's like a jackson paulic painting in here so in this next clip alex talks about how like you know being evil makes you physically ugly yes and also not being evil makes you really beautiful but he also does he but he points out that he's physically ugly right no but he the way he's articulating these things is gross yeah even though what he's trying to say i think he's saying is like there's inner beauty yeah or something like that but he only unfortunately can't articulate it any other way i'd be like hey if there's a woman in her body's bad but if she's cool then she's beautiful there you go now we got great the idea that you drive an old crappy car and all the rest of it you got varicose veins on your hips that isn't you your connection to god is you
Starting point is 00:37:00 and that's beautiful and i see people that have the most wrecked old messed up bodies but they've got god their eyes are beautiful i can see their spirit they are amazing and i see the most beautiful people that don't have god and their eyes are dead and they're not attractive it's like a woman that has god is even their body's not that good it doesn't matter that they're beautiful a woman that serves satan could be the most beautiful body you ever imagined it's like a plastic mannequin it's not real speaking of that i'm not some angel i just love justice and freedom and i got a system they have and it's your financial support that breaks the will of the globalist so weird so weird now that's totally the relationship that so many men have with
Starting point is 00:37:51 women of just that like i want that so much and because i can't have it must be evil you look so awful it's disgusting it's not it's not good but it is interesting how quickly he just is able to turn it yeah like hey i'm no angel i need money i could use your money so in this next clip alex discusses the uh coven 19 positive cases that are in the white house and such except here but the virus isn't real but he refuses to deal with this story on its real terms because i think he recognizes that the way he would cover the reality of the story would be dangerous yeah oh but fouchy who's self-quarantining oh because the white house has a contagion eight secret service they have thousands of meatpacking employees that tested positive no
Starting point is 00:38:40 one's sick asymptomatic so alex refuses to cover the other aspects of the coven 19 in the white house like he's very consistently been dismissing the story is just being eight secret service members testing positive which is bad on its own you know but there's more to it than that there's at least two staffers in the executive branch who have tested positive and one of them is steven miller's wife who's mike pence's press secretary that's someone who would have close contact with pence who's married to someone who has close contact with everyone as of may 11th cnn was reporting that the person who miller caught the virus from was unknown which doesn't inspire confidence that the number is actually just two people the white house is now mandated
Starting point is 00:39:17 that staffers have to wear masks at the office and apparently morale is not high trump's economic advisor kevin has it was on face the nation and said quote it's scary to go to work shit is not good also by the time alex is on the air about this the number of secret service members who had tested positive was 11 not eight he's not doing good job of tracking any of these stories which is just amazing he's minimizing the old news while since last he's heard even more secret service people have tested positive and that's not even counting the 23 others who had tested positive who have since recovered this is not nearly the small problem alex is pretending it is well if alex were to cover here's how alex would cover it uh
Starting point is 00:39:59 they're killing the president we have to act right that's the problem of like discussing some of the other details you you drift really quickly into insurrection territory yeah and that's hard to get people to buy your pills when you're telling them to go assassinate people near the president and you you'd uh i mean it's tough to minimize things when you escalate to that level so just keep it as either eight secret service people who cares but everyone's are scared yeah i mean trump slurred one time so it was like they're poisoning the president right now that the president is literally in danger of his life he's like that's eight secret service members well times were different back then you could yell whatever you really wanted
Starting point is 00:40:37 you really could those were a little lower those were the days and as for that stuff about the knee packing plants alex can legit go fuck himself he doesn't understand what asymptomatic cases are and he's just pretending that these people aren't actually getting sick there have been a bunch of deaths linked to workers at these plants and alex's bullshit is complete disrespect to these people in their families people who have to go to work to continue the ability of people to have food processed yep and he's minimizing the experience that they're having to deal with and i find that abhorrent hey sacrifice on the altar of capital makes me wish he was in guardians in the galaxy because he wouldn't be doing this and he wouldn't be doing this
Starting point is 00:41:16 that'd be a better world man so one of the big things on this episode that alex has promised to do is he's gonna cover fauci's testimony uh in the senate sure he doesn't do a good job of it we just have we just have a little clip of this because i mean it would be exhausting to go over all of it here's fauci announcing his reasonable martial law i've said many times publicly what we have worked out is a guideline framework of how you safely uh open america again let's start it over what we have worked out oh god how you safely i will tell you how you're safe you take a bill gates vaccine you wear a mask and get hypoxia you do it doesn't matter all my graphs or 50 times wrong you do what i say we're making a move let's hear from him i haven't seen this
Starting point is 00:42:12 strategy in a while it kind of feels like him remembering a bit he hasn't done in a while and just given it a try this is that old bit where he plays some video of one of his villains but he also realizes that they aren't saying what he constantly says they say he's built up this image of them as arch villains so when he tries to actually you know play longer clips of them he runs into the problem of them not sounding evil and then they're actually making their points fairly well yeah the way alex gets around this is with constant interruptions cutting off the clip over and over again so the listener never actually hears fauci's words in complete sentences along with that disruption technique alex also breaks in over and over again to reframe the words
Starting point is 00:42:47 that fauci uses as being evil and he distracts the audience with references to completely unrelated aspects of his conspiracy narrative things that have no bearing on what fauci's saying at all yeah and for good measure he calls them nerds he's like oh nerds are going to tell me what to do i'll die first we've done this a bunch of times in cases when alex has used this strategy so i'm not going to drag it out here it's just the same thing over and over again and nothing he brings up is really new or interesting it just goes on and on for like two segments of the show where alex just makes himself mad listening to fauci then interrupting to do impressions and yelling his talking points yeah he's a childhood bully it's very pathetic yeah that's bad so alex has a guest on
Starting point is 00:43:28 on this episode and we're not actually going to talk too much about this because first of all this guy belongs more in the project camel outside of things sure and i don't think his appearance is really all that interesting except for the fact that it happened that is kind of interesting to me and we have dr steven greer also joining us discuss a possible fake UFO invasion that's what i told the crew today fake that i'm glad i read that it's fake fake fake fake fake fake fake fake fake fake fake fake fake fake project blue beam fake u n name five more ufo invasion fake fake fake fake fake fake fake fake fake fake artificial artificial fake UFO fake fake fake fake fake fake fake fake fake fake fake fake fake fake fake fake fake fake fake fake
Starting point is 00:44:38 somebody broke alex guys reboot him come on all right let's just go to break Jesus that was surreal when i heard that i was like what are you doing it's a minute of him yelling fake okay this is why it's impossible to argue with the alt right well yeah and it's it's ludicrous to imagine ever like having a conversation with alex yeah that is exactly that is that is what they say but just boiled down to it's it's perfect essence all the right wing is saying right now is fake fake fake fake fake fake fake fake fake so steven greer is a big name in the world of like
Starting point is 00:45:35 alien disclosure stuff and what have you there's a bunch we talked about him a bit in the past i think he's come up in the project can a lot of episodes not ever an interview with him specifically but he's he's a figure that some of the maybe some of the weirder alien folk distrust question because he's had a couple documentaries about him and i think maybe they think that he's a shill or something i don't know but he's he's a bit of like alien dude real doctor fake doctor i think he's i don't remember i think he's like a sports medicine i think i think he does have an actual doctorate okay but i don't know how relevant it is and he's been doing alien shit for as long as i've known about the house doctor for the maverick so could be we got a lot of hate
Starting point is 00:46:17 coming his way so alex has this guy on and they're gonna they're alex wants to talk about uh the how they're planning to do a fake alien invasion sure and alex the way he has to explain why he's having this conversation because it's even absurd for his show so this is how he tries to do that i've been listening to dr steven greer for 20 years and i've read a couple of his books and i followed what he has to say and i never got into ufo's and all of this because i knew a lot of it was real but i couldn't get real to admit there were few gaps and shadow government the cfr in a world and in all of this but the public now is ready for this and and and so he'll be with us the whole next hour and hopefully come back again for a couple hours next week and so he's on with us
Starting point is 00:47:05 i'd like to make the argument that it's not that the public is ready for it it's that alex's show has descended to this there's nothing else to do i'm not going i don't have any other clips of their interview because i don't find it at all interesting it's ridiculous alex is just gushing over this guy spinning a yarn about fake alien but one of the other reasons that i am not focusing on this right now other than to say that this interview happened where they're talking about a fake alien invasion is because i listen to the next day and this whole thing is fucking dropped like a hot potato it's not i think it was just a weird interview that alex did because this guy has a new documentary coming out and he wants to try and get some juice off of it so i'd be like
Starting point is 00:47:46 yeah let's play around with the idea that the globalists are gonna do a false alien invasion that's fun see if i can get some traffic out of this that's fun i like it yeah so i don't really care i'm not going to help uh greer promote his documentary and alex's interview is not interesting but if it was davin allen greer will promote the shit out of that sure documentary but if alex does continue down the road of saying there's going to be a fake alien invasion we will revisit the topic for sure i promise if he keeps it up but for now it just seems like a blip on the radar one off it's a bottle episode yeah so that goes the rest of the twelfth and now we're on to the thirteenth and this is a weird day weird day i mean it's hard to get weirder than alex
Starting point is 00:48:27 saying that he was going to be in guardians of the galaxy but he manages somehow um and that is because he has some big news and i got on my knees at about three a.m this morning when i woke up and just asked god to give me the guidance in the direction to not get angry on air and to just calmly report this information to you as best i can and give you the evidence this is very soothing music calm right now you'll see the live show feed title global bombshell who confirms vaccines are having sterilants added to them on a planetary scale i have an entire folder that is only the surface of this with the united nations admitting they're doing now think about that think about it so there's only three pages
Starting point is 00:49:30 though you can't do four there's no news here this is just a headline alex is reading global bombshell three exclamation points sure world health organization confirms sterilants added to vaccines globally this isn't a news article it's just a post on info wars that has the embedded video of alex's show in it it's literally a blog post that just includes the show that alex is in the middle of doing he's citing the very show he's in the process of doing as a source on the show he's in the middle of doing that is spectacular that's so impressive that is really great that's really great i i have never seen an oraboros in real life yeah that's beautiful yep that is really gorgeous it's circular citation yeah yeah it's stunning whatever i'm saying now is confirmed
Starting point is 00:50:14 by with me to my citation which is this show and whatever i'm going to say in half an hour okay great weird you are a weirdo the future proves what i'm saying in the past because eventually the future will be the past and it's pretty wild that is interesting yeah so the whole thing on this episode is going to be the world health organization and all these folks have admitted that they put sterilants into vaccines in order to you know make people unable to reproduce and what have you so that will be a large thesis over which the rest of alex's episode will go but also of course because he's alex fucking jones there's going to be a bunch of weird other shit going on naturally but alex does start with his commitment to be focused so he does stay on topic
Starting point is 00:51:01 for a bit i was laying in bed with a tablet and i thought let me go see what david knights up to because i'd want to show yesterday and i saw him play a video that i meant to play that i didn't get to yesterday by a group like project veritas called go vote in the uk that's a credible group kind of left us but they they mean well i don't know what that means they're talking about interviewing a big pharma whistleblower about hcg being additive vaccine to sterilize women and then folks were all on youtube saying oh we don't know this is true oh you know they wouldn't dare do that and then of course this morning the youtube video was gone had like a half million views well all i did was type in hcg vaccines and i was on the un's website saying they added to
Starting point is 00:51:57 vaccines to sterilize people but see no one cares when it's had totally admitted so alex is just making all that stuff up yeah i don't really know what this uk group is and i don't really care because as it's being reported they're talking about talking to a whistleblower i have no idea i'm not going to chase that rabbit trail down so the world health organization does not admit on their website that they put hcg and vaccines to sterilize people in fact if you go to their website and read their materials you get a very easy to understand explanation for how this misinformation works july millstein p david griffin and jw lee released a paper called quote damage to immunization programs for misinformation on contraceptive vaccines which explained the dynamic at play
Starting point is 00:52:40 there was a campaign to attack vaccines that conflated a 1994 study in india which was quote not sponsored supported nor executed by the world health organization which was a quote clinical trial carried out to assess the effectiveness of a prototype anti fertility vaccine designed to provide protection against unplanned pregnancies for a period of one to two years the active ingredient in that birth control was hcg or human a choreonic uh gonna drop them which is a hormone necessary for a pregnancy to begin in order for this hormone to be delivered it needed a carrier and in this indian study they used diphtheria and tetanus toxoids which were produced in a way that they wouldn't get anyone sick but just serve as the carrier anti vex proponents took this study and
Starting point is 00:53:23 conflated the details into being a vaccine trial where they put in a sterilizing agent great they went on to test this uh you know a tetanus vaccine uh in in labs quote the vaccines were sent to hospital laboratories and tested using pregnancy test kits which were developed for use on serum and urine specimens and are not appropriate for a vaccine because they were using something that was uh it was a test that it wasn't made to analyze this they found results that were confusing and they were able to twist they found quote low levels of hcg like activity in some samples and that was enough to create a narrative actual researchers followed up and quote when the vaccines were tested in laboratories which used properly validated test systems the
Starting point is 00:54:03 results clearly showed that the vaccines did not contain hcg this was validated by six laboratories in five countries but it doesn't matter the erroneous science confirmed the conclusion these folks were looking for so when their stronger evidence provided that they are wrong they just ignore that and yell about the erroneous stuff that they wanted to believe to begin with great that's the root of what a bunch of this they're putting sterilants in the vaccine stuff comes from and even though the explanation for where the confusion comes from is super easy to understand this narrative just keeps popping up over time africa check traced how this same misinformation was being used in 2014 to claim the world health organization was conducting a quote mass sterilization
Starting point is 00:54:40 exercise in kenya masquerading as a tetanus vaccine great great great great great great and the part of the part that makes it even more insidious is a lot of these vaccination programs surrounding tetanus are focused towards women of childbearing age because one of the concerns is the children dying from tetanus early right and it's one of the great successes that they've been able to take those tetanus related deaths so far down in the developing world and so you know you take the the demographic that would be most helped by the vaccine naturally and then you turn that into some sort of a nefarious conspiracy about trying to make people that's the plan yeah it's a mess i propose we always have a manhole within
Starting point is 00:55:22 three feet of each other and if somebody says anything anti vex bullshit you get to push him down the manhole that is my new law as long as it's only an inconvenience ten million manholes across chicago as long as it's only an inconvenience when you get pushed in a manhole doesn't actually really hurt you that there's a little trampoline under there maybe you just there's a little dirty water maybe yeah there's well you have to join the below time society you have to join the more locks yeah exactly after two years you may be able to come back out that would be an interesting way to do things it's a bad way to do things probably yeah so alex believes that he's proved all this stuff and now he gets real cocky about it we've known this since the late 80s they've
Starting point is 00:56:03 been doing this and so there's that frustration that i've known so much information for so long that i just get up here and i tell you yeah there's sterilants and a lot of the vaccines people go oh that's just alex saying that instead of going hey here it is here's the url on the un website now as soon as we point this out google will bury it that's why you want to use yippie or something else yippie interesting hold on to that thought for later sure alex doesn't provide a url there but i went and watched the video and he does flash up on screen the image of the title of a study quote hcg found in world health organization tetanus vaccine in kenya raises concerns in the developing world this is a paper that was published in the open access library journal and let's just
Starting point is 00:56:53 say it has an interesting history firstly it's just based on the same debunk nonsense about the tetanus vaccine that conflates the indian birth control shot study with the tetanus vaccine so right off the bat it's not great of course this was a paper that was written by two researchers named shaw and uh tom genovich who had a bit of a bit of history of releasing bad work about vaccines earlier paper slavery is it okay in 2016 they put out a paper in the journal vaccine which purported to show a quote link between the vaccine for hpv and behavioral issues this article was subsequently retracted by the journal with an announcement saying quote this article has been withdrawn at the request of the editor-in-chief due to serious concerns regarding the scientific
Starting point is 00:57:34 soundness of the article review by the editor-in-chief and evaluation by outside experts confirmed that the methodology is seriously flawed and the claims that the article makes are unjustified this was shaw and tom genovich's third study related to vaccines that had been found by peer review to be quote seriously flawed their history is littered with papers about vaccines that have been reviewed and shown to be poorly done in the generous interpretation and anti vex pseudoscience in the less generous version so they were two the main co-authors of this paper whose headline alex flashed up on screen and he's presenting as on the world health organization u n's website so their basic plan is to try and get something published for at least a little bit
Starting point is 00:58:15 then it's retracted then they get to use it for right wing propaganda maybe i don't know i couldn't speak to their plan but you know if that's what you're suggesting maybe yeah but it would be unfair for me just to say like hey they've done all this stuff repeatedly in the past they'll be attacking the messenger and you know you can't just say that you know just because they they are their clear history of not being good sources of information you got to automatically reject the study that wouldn't be fair as it turns out this paper is worthless as well in their paper they did no new tests they just relied on data that already existed and was part of that 2014 campaign against the tetanus vaccine in kenya there's honestly not much more to it than that
Starting point is 00:58:52 it's just a rehashing of the tetanus birth control shot confusion propaganda that's literally all it is the study doesn't prove anything it doesn't show any new information it's just a republishing of an already debunk conspiracy theory about vaccines oh my god it's the paper version of alex posting his video on his own blog sort of another important variable to remember is that even if these vaccines did have hcg in them it wouldn't sterilize anyone it would make you temporarily unable to get pregnant many people opt for the depot pervera shot as a means of birth control and you have to get that every three months to control reproduction so i have no idea what kind of permanent sterilization alex is
Starting point is 00:59:31 imagining is going to go with this but whatever it's just his fantasies supported by the long discredited work of anti-vax zealots also the open access library journal is not a credible outlet that you should accept as legitimate if you're trying to make an argument like this the fact that alex has an article that this article is his primary source that he relies on then claims that he's taking information from the world health organization or un's website is just the definition of dishonest yeah that and so that's where he's that's what there's a lot of this is based on where it's coming from and it's trash great so of course we got to connect bill gates in here we got to complain about him a little bit fine so why not whatever they learned
Starting point is 01:00:11 with hitler but they don't fight dudes in pink sweaters now india threw his ass out and so did pakistan they figured out what was going on and look i get it there are a lot of folks in india man but do you really want to sign on to sterilizing them where's this going bill gates has his angle he has you can see it from his perspective until you realize that they're after everybody so i don't know how alex thinks he comes off when he says that he kind of understands the argument of sterilizing or killing off people in the developing world but he has to be against the plan because it's actually about targeting people like himself to me that sounds like someone who'd be totally fine with exterminating people in the developing
Starting point is 01:00:54 world if he felt entirely comfortable that people like himself were not going to be affected someone who has the principle set that alex pretends to have would never say something like that that sounds like someone who would be very comfortable in a white supremacist authoritarian state it kind of sounds like he wants a race specific bio weapon seems like as long as that race is not white the story that bill gates and the gates foundation were kicked out of india is completely not true it was something that made the rounds on conspiracy blogs back in 2017 which prompted india's ministry of health and family welfare to release a statement saying quote some media reports have suggested that all health related collaboration with the gates foundation
Starting point is 01:01:32 with national the national health mission has been stopped this is inaccurate and misleading the bill gates bill and melinda gates foundation continues to collaborate and support the ministry of health and family welfare the propaganda around this traces back to india stopping an hpv vaccine trial that the gates foundation had a part in funding back in april 2012 after there were reports that seven of the youths in the trial had died subsequent investigations found that the deaths were not related to the vaccine from science magazine quote one girl drowned in a quarry another died from a snake bite two committed suicide by ingesting pesticides and one died from complications of malaria investigators deemed the other two deaths
Starting point is 01:02:11 unlikely to have been related to the vaccine but not as easily ruled out as the other five it's still very sad but yeah it's not from the vaccine this is just absolutely fake propaganda narrative that alex probably read on some dumb conspiracy blog he thinks is credible and now he's repeating to his audience as fact that's the level of work alex brings to the table because he's dumb lazy and malicious also i think he's just making up the part about pakistan because in september 2019 philanthropy news digest reported that quote the bill and melinda gates foundation has signed a memorandum of understanding with the government of pakistan and will commit approximately 200 million dollars in support of the aheus initiative a comprehensive effort aimed
Starting point is 01:02:53 at combating poverty and improving health nutrition and financial inclusion in that country the prime minister of pakistan imran khan said quote i'm pleased that the bill and melinda gates foundation will assist with a range of activities including accelerating stunting reduction programs supporting financial inclusion initiatives and investing in public health systems to improve health and reduce maternal newborn and child mortality so this one the claim the bill gates was kicked out of pakistan just seems like a demonstrable lie that alex is making up on the spot in order to malign uh his imagined enemy which he's presenting to his audience as fact which is just unacceptable no he did get kicked out of pakistan but it was look you know so he
Starting point is 01:03:31 got a little too drunk one night look i've been kicked out of a bar before too it's just when you're a billionaire when you get kicked out of a bar you have to get kicked out of the whole country you can send his money over but he's not invited back that would be interesting but also rule also no record of that okay fair but the thing is the bill gates i mean you know big bad guy yes but did you know that there's a council of 12 people love it who run the world i love it there's a council of 12 yes now here's here's what's disappointing about this alex doesn't know who all of them are okay that's an issue this is this makes me really sad for a conspiracy theorist and i've been really researching bill gates for years but i've been researching him in more depth
Starting point is 01:04:11 and he is completely insane and that's why he is the science officer on the committee and there is a global committee of course it has rotating members just like a bullet bureau and there are 12 of them and i know who at least eight of them are gala had lands a lot is the most secret information on the planet and so i commit myself into god's hands bringing this information out and i'm not being dramatic ladies and gentlemen everybody knows that yeah everyone does uh those other four are gonna get you alex well those four mystery people are gonna get you know everything you can't know everything dan it makes more sense that he doesn't know it's also if it's a rotating cat do you die or like in a pilot bureau you're allowed to retire from
Starting point is 01:05:05 the council well i assume that soros is in there right he's probably in the mix you know there's got to be plenty of members who were retired so it's not a counselor well hillary is in there i don't i think she was kicked obama obama uh yeah yeah he's got to be in there i bet that i would just go with past presidents like there's eight people i don't like yeah twelve is a better number for a council stelter shit yeah stelters in there for sure yeah stelters in there for sure no doubt yeah yeah stelters the media surprise twist bolsanaro is in there as well as how crazy is that he's controlled opposition no bolsanaro is not but but but wow wow whatever however alex plans it is that's bolsanaro's evil it's a different person exactly little do we know alex
Starting point is 01:05:49 has been not talking about bolsanaro this whole time could be could be so alex rambles a little bit wants to try and make mocking arguments in order to minimize the the covid 19 situation and he touches on one of his favorite things which i find disgraceful the sheep that run off the cliff are our leaders like yeah you're not open in that school my kids not going here but we're not going you're not open in that mall i'm gonna sue you oh and the meatpackers no one's died in the meatpacking plant thousands and thousands tested you know 301 plant all have covid none of them got sick because it's a fake test folks this is such a demonstrably false claim that i have no idea how alex thinks he can get away with it on may 8th the milwaukee journal sentinel reported on the
Starting point is 01:06:31 second death that had come from people infected at a local meatpacking plant this person's quote conditioned decline so quickly that he couldn't receive advanced treatment records show that same day business insider reported that at least 48 meatpacking plant workers have died with covid 19 if you consider that as business insider also pointed out quote employers are not required to track corona virus cases among workers per recent guidance and does not require on-site inspections for worker complaints related to the virus you consider that the number of infected and possibly related deaths could be much higher than the numbers we know alex has latched on to this story out of missouri where 373 workers at a triumph foods pork plant tested positive for covid 19
Starting point is 01:07:13 but the stories about the case were quick to point out that they were asymptomatic this is an interesting headline but it also fails to capture a lot of the relevant information about the story this story came out in the first week of may but it wasn't the first time this plant made headlines involved in corona virus on april 24 local news reported that 16 workers at that plant had tested positive for covid 19 which was prompting them to go ahead and test everyone this article implies that they were going to change their strategy to testing quote individuals who are not showing symptoms as well as those who are which would lead one to believe that previously they were only testing people who had symptoms these original 16 cases are completely foreign to
Starting point is 01:07:51 alex he has no idea about this part of the story because he just saw a headline about asymptomatic cases at the plant decided it must be no one sick and looked no further into the case than that also at least one employee at that plant who tested positive for covid 19 is now dead what alex is saying has no connection with reality he's just making up all the details he feels like in order to prop up his predetermined conclusion with no no sincere person would do that if they were interested in the truth he's a fucking liar and i wish he'd gotten cast in guardians of the galaxy because uh a bad movie is better than this i don't understand what like there's gotta be the people there are people culpable for this and there there's no lawsuits there's no nothing
Starting point is 01:08:35 that we can do i mean there may be eventually there i mean there has to be i i don't know i haven't looked into it deeply but i you know i i wonder if you know i've seen some headlines and i feel a little irresponsible with saying this because i haven't looked into them but i wonder if one day there will be a statistical difference you will be able to find between deaths of people who take in different sorts of media yeah and i don't know if that will end up having any kind of criminal or civil liability but like i wonder if one day we will be able to see those trends yeah and i would be horrified to man it's it's just there that there are people who are doing this knowingly it's you can't you can't i can't get that thought
Starting point is 01:09:21 out of my head people are knowingly choosing to watch other people die yeah and it is and the and they are in a position to do something about it so and in fact they're in the position wherein they're specifically choosing not to do something about it i don't understand how they're not absolutely culpable for yeah some of them may think that it's a lesser amount of pain and death that caused by the alternative but yeah it's whatever it's it's awful yep so in this next clip alex gets into he hasn't done his racist asian voice in a while so we get to do a little bit of that here china says oh there were five cases in wuhan oh you'd not leave your house now so now we are all we care oh bob either china say second wave calm they're all open for business but we can't
Starting point is 01:10:19 sweden's communists now so they stay open they don't because once they've conquered you it's okay that's a throwaway line yeah there's some of the there it is they're the kids in the bubbles in china i'm gonna go to break and i'm just gonna tell you this right now vampires i tried to hold this back vampires i thought that we can get people in the government to actually look into this and not want to go down this road but vampires is so cowardly and so into being slaves that it's avalanche into mass hysteria and thank god trump now understands this and is bucking it but if you don't have storable foods and if you don't care about five acres because the new world order is here and if you're in a city you're crazy that's all i'm saying
Starting point is 01:11:07 we have storable food ready to ship out to you at infoworkstore.com almost no one else does or they're lying to you it's crap cool so in this next clip i don't i don't know yeah whatever that is a demonstration yep might as well be yep i wish it was vampires it'd be great so i wish he was in guardians of galaxy me too and i wish i moved by vampires so we get into the net a galaxy comes back from break and he starts vamping about how he's got to put off the big news he's vamping so the big news is just the they're putting sterile in some of the vaccines sure sure he's already touched on it at the beginning of the show but he hasn't gotten into the news but now he realizes that he can't get into it because he's got to get in the zone or something
Starting point is 01:11:51 all right you know i said i'd get into this news this segment and i'm not doing this to build it up but it's so momentous that i have to get my brain completely focused to be able to do this and during the break i was doing some work and taking care of some things and i got distracted not nobody's bad coming in here i told him to but i was i was busy doing some work so i'm gonna have to do it next time but get back in the zone gotta get back in the zone man so that's unacceptable you can't do it because he's frazzled can't do unacceptable behavior well but the problem is alex prepares so much that anything can make him unprepared like i said i'm particularly prepared for today's show and i'm the one telling david night not to kill himself but he's doing five six
Starting point is 01:12:40 hours of preparation every day for his show and i've done that much myself today uh and man it's all just totally come together it's exactly how we analyzed it but not a surprise we're following their operation uh they are really planning to execute this thing to the hilt so i had really hoped they'd back down i'd really hope that it was all just a bunch of crazy eugenicists trying to one up each other but they're gonna they're gonna carry this out so you better start getting ready to decide what you're gonna do folks and it's gonna get really bad they're gonna carry out false flags and blame it on us and it's gonna be interesting but just thank god and your lucky stars that you for whatever reason are awake and aware and have a relationship with god the living
Starting point is 01:13:30 god because these guys worship the god of death so alex is prepared a whole ton and uh he's just vamping there a bit just feeling space i would tell you about all this but first i gotta warn you of my right wing buddies are probably gonna do some terrorism sooner later they're already starting listen when they say that they did it false flags i mean my right wing buddies are gonna do it you've already seen it they're all i'm wildly encouraging that yeah i love it it's my favorite thing yeah but it would only be done by people who are trying to make me feel bad about it so alex gets back into the zone and he explains exactly what he's going to do to prove his massive case that there are sterilants in the vaccines all right now i'm just gonna show you right now
Starting point is 01:14:21 18 documents i'm just gonna read the headlines and tell you where they came from you should do more than that and then i'm going to explain to you that this is one one thousandth is my estimation of what is publicly available so i always get excited alex says there's 18 things he's going to present as evidence of this argument that there's sterilants in the vaccines my guess is he gets through four that's an interesting bet i appreciate you making a bet i have kept track of how many he gets through okay and we're gonna talk about him one by one and i will say he's over at the end of this it's all that right that sounds about right so this is actually a false start i thought this was the first example but it's not actually you can type in hcg
Starting point is 01:15:13 vaccine and you will get 1985 test with Fauci of course NIH Fauci adding that hormone so that a woman thinks she's pregnant all the time it's a pregnancy hormone and so you can never get pregnant so i thought that was the first piece of evidence that he had is this study this 1985 study if you google hcg in vaccines sure that's just an indian study part of what was misrepresented by the antivax propagandists you know it was just somebody researching into the idea of a temporary birth control vaccine sure sure sure this was done by a scientist named Gerseron Talwar and you can find articles about him to this day continuing his work of trying to produce effective and safe birth control methods
Starting point is 01:16:07 and he changed his name to Fauci i'm not sure about that he's a bit older okay alex is just pointing to this implying that this was a study where they added hcg to some other vaccine but it was about a trial for a vaccine that would work as a temporary birth control option it says literally nothing to do with the point he's trying to make yeah there is a 1985 patent filing for this that's assigned to the national institute of immunology which kind of sounds close to the entity Fauci is the head of the national institute of allergy and infectious diseases but it's not the same thing primarily because the nation in question in the national institute of immunology is india hmm hmm so i does seem insurmountable yes i'm going to need alex to prove the connection
Starting point is 01:16:50 between talwar's 1985 study in fauci because as it stands i'm not sure that that it's demonstrated Fauci immortal has to change his appearance every 50 years in order to keep people from thinking that he is maybe immortal maybe i got nothing so bad i thought that was the first example and i thought alex quit after one does he just start because he just starts rambling i don't know so he just is talking about this hcg that he has learned about and is now obsessed hcg well where do you think hcg gets released from it gets released and commanded from the brain and the ovaries the brain and the testicles so ease is making stuff up it doesn't have anything to do with the testicles i guess you
Starting point is 01:17:40 could make something of a case that the ovaries are related but that isn't really accurate either according to hormone.org hcg quote is produced by the cells that are surrounding a growing embryo which eventually forms the placenta the ovaries itself do not themselves do not produce the hormone it comes from the cells that actually go on to become the placenta it is true that the pituitary gland also produces low levels of hcg so you pretty much always have a small amount in your body but not to the level that it would normally affect pregnancy or anything like that this is not one of alex's 18 headlines he's just in the middle of rambling just tossing this one out and i just wanted to point out that he thinks it comes from your balls sure great so alex
Starting point is 01:18:20 still has not gotten down to the headlines the clock is ticking on mr jones so i just want listeners understand that i've made the decision to go whole hog against these people but i'm begging you for my sake your sake our children say do whatever you have to get this out okay so let's start getting into it let me just show you headlines over headshot please that was actually kind of shocking to me because i did think the fouchy 85 thing was the first one i didn't realize we hadn't actually started the clock yeah yeah hit the clock okay so alex he puts it on the board we're getting ready to go this is going to be i don't know ping pong i'm gonna play with him he's gonna serve it up okay hit it right back at it okay here we go so here's the first one
Starting point is 01:19:04 this is from the nih.gov earth control vaccine is on the horizon for family planning this is from many years ago it's here now so this was not from the nih uh it's a journal article that's housed on the national library of medicine's website though which is also at the nih.gov address so it's easy to misunderstand that it was a 1993 article in the journal annals of medicine it was written by gerseron tall war and it discusses his work in terms of developing birth control shots even the abstract of this article makes clear that the birth control vaccine he was writing up quote has previously been demonstrated to be reversible in its effect and it requires a booster every eight to nine months article number one has nothing to do with
Starting point is 01:19:52 the point alex thinks he's making and does not show that the evil globalists are putting sterolence in the vaccines he is o for one all right here's serve two anti fertility vaccines how they work shell.com so this is an april 2002 review article in the journal trends and immunology that's being posted on sell.com this is literally just an article that discusses recent developments in the field of vaccines that could possibly be used for birth control in humans it has nothing to do with adding sterolence to vaccine it does nothing to establish alex's point at all unless his point is that birth control should be illegal i guess if that's the argument he's trying to make i suppose i don't know if birth control is nefarious yeah all of these examples
Starting point is 01:20:36 start to make sense i i'm going to be honest i think that he is not getting into the article's body on purpose i think he's just reading these headlines because he doesn't want to engage with what the articles actually say but the headlines kind of work for his uh but they don't really i'm starting to see through this dude's plan oh do you i'm starting to put this all together he's like uh he's like a fifth element coming at us at this point he's o for two so we get to the third headline we'll see if he makes it to the fourth okay you're pretty i'm guessing four i'm guessing four here's number three unwanted sterilization eugenics programs the united states pbs the very democrats supposedly battling are the ones running and you gotta love them so this pbs article
Starting point is 01:21:20 is specifically about the programs in the united states in like the early 1900s that were enacted on non-white populations through the country as well as whites who were deemed quote feeble minded or mentally ill there's also mention of incarcerated persons being coerced into having their tubes tied in more recent days which is all awful the thing that connects all of these cases is how reproductive justice was infringed by taking self-determination away from the people who were subjected to these programs these cases are used to support the argument that people should have access to all of the family planning and reproductive health care that they choose to use which alex should strongly be against based on what he believes i suppose i guess i guess i don't know the point
Starting point is 01:21:59 of this article runs counter to alex's position so that's probably not a good one for him to use there's an ugly history in our country of this stuff and i'm not going to deny that but i also don't accept this as any kind of evidence that the globalists are putting sterilants and vaccines today that relies on the kind of thinking that's basically you know what he's doing is just basically winking and nudging you saying like hey people did awful things way in the past they're probably doing it all now it's a way of trying to insinuate something and then pretend it's proof showing that humans and gasp americans are capable of a particular evil doesn't prove that they are doing it however it's the kind of evidence you would provide if you're trying to convince someone that something
Starting point is 01:22:37 is possible it's a lowering of the bar to the point where whatever you're proving is ultimately meaningless to the actual conversation you think you're having alex is 0 for 3 yeah this is not this doesn't work for what are you saying yeah that's that's disgusting that's unfortunate that's not good so he does make it to four hey india mass sterilization women forcing the camps say relatives one and guardian you know who funds the camps oh you may have heard him he likes to wear pink sweaters he got kicked out that is a big problem why is he what god damn it so india is a country that has a rough history with sterilizations dating back to the 70s there have been some scandals about mass sterilization there's a lot to the picture and a lot of it is not pretty however
Starting point is 01:23:18 none of it has to do with putting sterilants in vaccines it has to do with things like paying poor people to have their tubes tied so this particular article alex's sighting is from 2014 it has to do with some deaths at a sterilization center this is completely unrelated to the point alex is trying to make and like you clearly saw he's contradicting his own narratives i thought bill gates was supposed to have been thrown out of india because of this vaccine stuff in 2009 but apparently he's also running these camps in 2014 and onward all this stuff is internally inconsistent and that's because alex makes up this shit however he wants just to make whatever point he feels like i don't mean to diminish the issue of safe reproductive health in india at all
Starting point is 01:23:57 there's definitely questions to raise there in a conversation to be had but it has nothing to do with what alex is talking about he has 0 for 4 unfortunately euro for one because alex makes it to five damn it india cuts some funding ties with the gates foundation reuters that was years ago because they caught him doing what they do about sterilizing so i don't know if that's from many years ago or years ago it's from 2017 that article this article is about a larger trend that was going on in the indian government that involved taking partial control of the immunization technical support unit which was formerly fully funded by the gates foundation quote the decision is seen as part of india's broader clampdown on non-governmental organizations to assist uh to assert control over
Starting point is 01:24:43 decision-making in key policy areas last year india ordered the dismissal of dozens of foreign funded health experts working on public welfare schemes the article goes on to quote senior health ministry official sumia swamanathan who quote stressed that there were no instances of influence found and the decision was only in part prompted by a wider perception about foreign funding of the program which is to say that like we're the the reason for taking control of some of these things was a concern about influence of foreign people over policy but upon review there weren't any actual instances of that right right right right so after this decision the gates foundation still funded the parts of the itsu that were involved in tracking vaccination coverage
Starting point is 01:25:27 and managing logistics so this is more of a government reorganization than anything else if alex's story were correct and the indian government made this move because they found out gates was sterilizing everyone you probably expect that they wouldn't retain the gates foundation as a partner on vaccination logistics management and he's supposed to have been kicked out of the country at this point makes no fucking sense alex is over five all right okay we caught you with the sterilization thing that's our bad right you stick around hey we still need we still need all kinds of other stuff but we're not gonna allow you hey come on don't do it again don't do it again buddy all right get back in there um but it will say alex does do a lot better than you expected
Starting point is 01:26:06 you had very low expectations for him he gets to six fertility regulating and immunotherapeutic vaccines reaching human trials academic dot com that's uh 13 oh that's 23 years ago 1997 so this is just another article about talwar's work on the birth control shots it has literally nothing to do with the point alex is trying to make he has 0 for 6 also academic dot com is not the site he's trying to cite it's the oxford academic archive at academic dot oup dot com this is just a reposting on their archive of an article from the july 1997 issue of human reproduction update alex has no idea what sources is he's trying to use to make the points he completely doesn't understand this is so pathetic wow this is this is really disheartening
Starting point is 01:26:55 yeah this this is this is a real bummer when they actually try and prove their point it's real sad especially because remember the point is supposed to be that the world health organization is admitting that they put sterilants in the vaccines yep none of this so far has shown any of that yeah so we get to number seven oh here's an investigation of sterilization camp by the population research institute want to read all about it so alex doesn't even offer a citation on that one he just says it's an investigation by the population research institute i don't care about this since pri is a propaganda outlet run by steven mosher who we've talked about a bit in the past unless whatever is
Starting point is 01:27:38 in that report is being substantiated by someone who is not him i'm not even going to give at the time of day it's just not even worth it alex is 0 for seven but he does get to number eight contraceptive vaccines here's another one now it feels like he's not even trying yeah no this is contraceptive hey moves on bingo i have no idea what sources is coming from and regardless it's clearly just about birth control shots he's just bored alex is 0 for eight he is he's not even yeah but he gets to number nine oh does he special program research development and research training in human reproduction world health organization geneva switzerland it's all right here i read that i can tell you with absolute certainty that alex did not read that because what he's citing
Starting point is 01:28:21 isn't a publication it's an initiative it's a whole group okay the fact that the world health organization has a part of it that's dedicated to reproductive health and that some of their interests might involve birth control shots is not suspicious at all that makes total sense alex isn't pointing to anything specific he's just saying the name of a group and patting himself on the back for a job well done i can't really disprove anything here because there's nothing to disprove alex is 0 for nine i do like that it seems like he's forgotten that we're watching he's just sitting and it's like he said his morning breakfast table just looking at the paper just oh look at what they did today eating a little bit of lucky charms and getting mad
Starting point is 01:29:00 yelling contraceptive vaccine again i was supposed to be in guardians of the galaxy respect me so we get to number 10 what double digits research into anti-fertility vaccine continues despite protest the lands at medical journal oh and what's the main one hpv and of course hcg get the fuck out of here so this isn't about the hpv vaccine at all it's about backlash in india surrounding research into birth control vaccines it's an article from 1998 and it legitimately has nothing to do with anything other than opposition to birth control the shot alex is weaving hpv in for some reason probably just because he wants to make it sound more damning or something but hpv vaccines weren't even introduced until 2006 a full eight years
Starting point is 01:29:50 after this lancid article came out this is just about birth control and opposition to birth control it has nothing to do with alex's point he is 0 for 10 yeah so let's try again here we go review anti-fertility vaccines science direct for stars so this is a all right that one got you that one got you all right that's one one for two this is actually just the same as his second headline it's the same review of anti-fertility vaccine options that he previously brought up as an article from cell dot com it's just now it's posted on science direct dot com he either doesn't know or doesn't care that he's using the same source multiple times which is a bad sign man or it's possible that he's talking about a different article on science
Starting point is 01:30:35 direct that actually has the same headline that one is from 1989 and it's just an article in the journal vaccine by gerseron tall war about his work on birth control vaccines whichever it is that alex is talking about he's 0 for 11 wow yeah pretty impressive this is i mean in a way this is kind of impressive in a certain way in a way in a way in a very specific way if you're impressed by sloppiness i mean this is a master class you'd think he would hit one right i know well no because you know how there's 12 members of the tribunal of the world oh do we stop at 12 no here's number 12 partners oh eat cartridges sterilizing you sure seats they don't have to but they they choose that chemical to sterilize man what i have no idea what alex is talking about and i don't care
Starting point is 01:31:25 i don't give a shit i can't possibly imagine what receipt in cast to do with alex's claim that the globalists are putting sterilants on the vaccines and even what if he's what he's saying is a hundred percent true which i'm certain it's not it does not make his argument is over 12 crayons bad for your balls that's where we're at that might as well be yeah unlucky number 13 coming right up exactly hcg found in who tetanus vaccine and it was confirmed that there's all snopes as well it's inconclusive oh yes the the u n admits they ran trials of the sterilant in tinnia and paid women to do it ten dollars so this is just the headline from that open access library journal paper put up by the two anti vex weirdos yeah the rest of the stuff is just alex
Starting point is 01:32:10 making up details to fit his narrative none of this shit's real he is over 13 wow would you be surprised to learn that we get to 14 i would be oh look at this the sunday guardian ethical questions surround vaccine to reduce fertility oh and it's the hcg so this article claims that a clinical trial of a tetanus vaccine laced with hcg cg was going to be run in india which it claims was announced in the journal uh nature medicine there's no link to the nature medicine article but the article that he's referring to is not about a tetanus vaccine laced with hcg it's the same thing about the birth control vaccine that uses a tetanus backbone as a carrier it's the same misunderstanding misrepresentation in this sunday guardian article wow this sunday guardian
Starting point is 01:32:54 article it's full of misrepresentations about the original birth control vaccine stuff and the author is very clearly reporting erroneous anti vex narratives particularly about kenya so i'm gonna go ahead and say that this is just the same old shit alex is over 14 man and that's where we end yeah he made it to 14 that's i mean he's you know 14 out 18 is way better than i would have expected for a hundred percent way better than i would have well obviously i was betting on four so that was the smart money yeah it's insane that he made it to 14 yeah it's insane that we never will know what those other four were and just like the four other members of the 12 that we'll never know there's layers here four four what's four plus four minus six exactly um yeah so i was
Starting point is 01:33:38 unimpressed by this were you i found that pretty much all of these articles were about birth control shots that were in development over the years their various times and almost all of them involved that gerseron yeah i was gonna say war is research it seems like all of these are actually the same article a lot of people referencing the same stuff not always the same article but he's been someone who his entire career has been about these birth control studies and research so he's someone who keeps coming up like in 97 and 2002 and like all of these points in time a lot of them do end up tracing back to um his research but yeah all of it is alex trying to make this argument that the globalists are putting sterilants in vaccines and none of this
Starting point is 01:34:24 demonstrates that in any way but of course he thinks he's proven his point and he has not yeah i mean if you didn't if you were just passively paying like not paying attention with him him saying anti fertility vaccines you might get this thought of like oh you know what they're probably putting something that'll kill my balls in the mmr vaccine and that's not at all what's going on there but the the just the words anti fertility vaccine could be taken a lot of different ways by people and that's what he's banking on he's just banking on people not paying attention being like oh my god listen to this guy yeah it's it's weird that these people have gotten so nuts that it appears like we're like professional people are studying them like
Starting point is 01:35:08 they're a different subspecies or not subspecies but like just like they're studying them like yeah it's like where where are these people coming from we need to understand this because they are unrecognizable if i didn't see people who fairly sincerely believe these things online and get messages from people about people they know who you know fall into these these modes of thinking i would have a very difficult time believing that anyone believed this yeah i know you know right yeah it's it really is becoming like a something happened that has rewired brains within like the internet fucked people up to such an extent let's say it's nine eleven it's like everything's nuts yeah it's weird so alex is done with this this segment sure the 18
Starting point is 01:36:01 the hot 18 um he comes back and he's got a message for trump and a message for bill gates but he doesn't get to the message for trump right and i'm not sure what his message to bill gates is other than put me in volume three i need to be in guardians of the galaxy volume three i'm not sure bill gates can help with that but i think his message to him is just a vague threat now is just good a time as any to have a message to donald from and a message to bill gates and and i respect bill gates and i respect president trump because they're both very intense focused uh dedicated individuals and so i don't want to say i kind of choke when trying to address him it's not that it's that i know they'll watch it and you know i i need to measure my words very very carefully
Starting point is 01:36:53 because i don't say these things to be braggadocious or act powerful i i i want them to know and i want i want gates to know that he's he's gonna pay and and not at my hands but nevertheless it needs to be said and and and the thing is something like that's so dangerous that i'll make a moth to flame i get very excited when i start doing the things that the spirit wants me to do and so i have to control myself and i've promised to be very calm and focused today and i'm going to be calm and i'm going to be focused and i'm going to be a good boy that said let me cut a three minute ad right now we can run or we're going to go bankrupt we're going to do it right now here it is that's great oh god that is oh god bill bill put your
Starting point is 01:37:51 pink sweater on you got to see this ill alex jones is telling some stuff hold on he's going to go to he's going to go to a real quick ad before it gets to your best and the way he's presenting that is almost like look i have to cut a commercial but i don't want to do it when i'm not on air right because i would have to stay late i don't like doing stuff outside of these three hours that i'm on the air i got a pretty sweet gig only working for three hours yeah i'm going to go fucking enjoy my opulence and great you know you guys keep buying my pills and stuff i need to cut this commercial so you'll continue to buy my pills but also i don't want to do it later so i'm going to do it now and then we're going to get to how i hate bill gates man i man it he does do a
Starting point is 01:38:35 three minute commercial to really does it feels like there's like this is just the flat out wild west of just one man's psychosis just being like yeah there are no standards there are no rules no i've created my own universe where i'm always king and i'm always the hero and i think that's what makes it so fascinating i think that's why there's no one like him because other people even if they are hard right like awful folks they generally are beholden to some sort of thing that will stop them like sucker carlson could get fired from fox right right right he would have you know he'd be able to make his own podcast or something but we saw how well that worked for bill o'reilly right like you know you they still have something that they need to do in order to
Starting point is 01:39:19 make their money and all that right all right they still have bosses even glen back as the blaze and stuff but like yeah there are the billionaire donors that you know make that possible he's not going to like alex is just like it it is free it is really free it's bad it's horrendous it's not a positive that it's free but that's what yeah that is what makes it interesting yeah you know if he wants to fuck around and do the world's worst proof ever that he can do that he can do it if he wants to ramble about how bill gates is going to pay great fine wants to do a whole episode about how he doesn't like men wearing pink sweaters no problem no one's gonna stop him and no one can stop him no yeah it's wild yeah it's really it's crazy it like the freedom will be missed once he's
Starting point is 01:40:06 gone yeah but not much no no no no not much so alex is saying the bill gates is going to pay and later he sort of revisits this point and there's something i really want to draw a sharp focus to and that is that alex doesn't want offensive violence but uh but and so i don't want listeners to do anything offensively because the enemy has killed common sense and will turn it into a heyday that's why what not because people will die my brain cannot be turned off and my brain is saying son you claim you're this guy that does the right thing and you're not a coward people are coming to inject you on purpose to sterilize you and your family and all these media people are going along with it and and and they just keep
Starting point is 01:41:08 looking for a fight they just keep they just keep asking for it man so here's the thing that i like i said i want to draw focus to alex is very consistent talking about how he doesn't want offensive violence and yet he does all of these things in order to make the argument pretty explicit in his audience's mind than any violence that you might do would actually be defensive yeah because they're coming at you with these needles to sterilize you and your family they're going to kill you in a month if you don't act yep that kind of thing is is to rationalize and to encourage people to engage in these acts of violence that we would obviously see as offensive probably terrorist acts yep and alex has reframed that in such a way as no it's defensive because they
Starting point is 01:41:51 want to stick a needle in you yeah and that that's just how that's that's how his rhetoric works and how he's able to tell himself that he's not encouraging uh uh terrorism yeah and he is yep yep so yep great yep in service of the government murdering people interesting that is weird it is an ironic thing that there's a version of self-defense is murdering people because the government is trying but then the larger government is on his it's weird it's weird so um alex thinks he proved the vaccine stuff um and he says as much here at the end of the first hour i i i covered all the mainline admissions that the u n since the 1980s has been testing sterilants inside vaccines in many cases on unwitting third world populations and so all the rumors about them adding hcg
Starting point is 01:42:48 to the vaccines are absolutely true he didn't prove shit and uh that's i mean it's clear but alex has he feels like he's done his work for the day but he's also still got a bunch of show he's still got two hours left yeah he's still got a bunch of show left to do and that is not good because he like he probably feels like he exerted himself quite yeah oh no i believe it i think he's a little bit mad in fact we'll just go to that right now special report of course folks the number there on the list so they know where it is i need snickers and it's obama gate all roads lead to wieners laptop maybe i should just quit and shut the show down do it do it maybe that's like do it do drop here because everybody's just gotten comfortable
Starting point is 01:43:37 with living under this evil do you think i want to get up here and talk about some murdering king pen yes mill gates totally and have them try to shut us down constantly you think this is a damn game you think it's a joke yes yes game this is fake fake fake fake and all the other followers and all the other bs this is the real world okay all right alex so he's gonna quit in the middle of his he's mad what a child he's so mad so childish yeah he's very mad i i would i don't want kids i don't want to have a kid and i don't want to deal with the child and that's what we're dealing with yeah more or less so alex continues on this theme of i should have fucking quit this is of course yeah it is maybe i should just leave for a month maybe that's the answer i just leave
Starting point is 01:44:29 for a month and just let everybody do whatever they want because i can't sit here with stacks of un reports on their own website how they're shooting canyons up sterilize them and then turn on snopes and they go it doesn't exist i mean those are damn criminals those are our enemies why don't other people have fire them why is the fight going out of a cessipate question when did it happen how did it happen oh not having fighting you means you're compliant i mean i know so many men who were like six one six four big badass men but they like think it's a i'm six one they think it's like powerful to
Starting point is 01:45:26 grovel the girlfriend and act all passive and weak it's like it's a virtue because everyone patched them on the head dude you're being primed for destruction you're supposed to be a leader but you're not a leader but you could be five feet tall and a woman or five feet tall and a man if you want freedom and justice you're a leader act like it whoa okay all right that fell apart a little what yeah what was the part at the end i think you should take a month off yeah you could be six foot one and a man and strong and if you listen to your girlfriend and cater to her needs you are a weak wild spineless coward who's going to be taken over by the rebelists right you're going to be marched to a fema camp if you buy her flowers right but if i'm five foot i can be
Starting point is 01:46:08 if you're disrespectful and insist on everyone bowing to you you could be a leader oh boy i don't know i think that's a real perverse view of relationships perhaps yeah so you should leave for a month and i believe that even more after this because he starts to sort of ruminate about like i know how to take care of all this and of course that's shooting people yeah um is just gross spoiler alert warning this is gross not in any context or content way just the noises alex makes progress prepare your ears great complying with this thing doesn't empower anybody it's death and i'm just trying to figure out how to not comply with it i mean i got a good idea how to fight it in the third dimension guns
Starting point is 01:46:57 and that's really the quandary like how long do you wait god almighty john britain john britain we are coming for you john britain let's go to this report we'll come back with phone calls okay i think if fantasies of murdering your enemies gives you sexual gratification it certainly seems more like he is having some sort of a gratification there than the times that he claims that like bill gates as a boner yeah on tv or whatever yeah but look dude like i don't know i can't imagine
Starting point is 01:47:53 working at info wars and like having this go on and be like this is good stuff like alex is doing a great show today i'd be worried for the guy who's worrying me come home to your come over to your partner how was how was work today so good uh well gotta say alex killed it started rambling about killing john britain good stuff great he aimed to talk about 18 articles got to 14 none of them made the point he said well you know those you know those noises you don't want me to make anymore he did that but about murder so uh i don't know what do we have chicken yep probably so on our last episode alex promised a surprise that i don't think ever materialized and had to do with that san antonio city council yes yeah his narrative about it was
Starting point is 01:48:45 that the san antonio city council had made it illegal to say uh china virus right you're gonna get arrested for right right i theorized that it was a long report where he did his racist fentanyl the dragon character naturally you had a different idea do you remember what you said it was no you said it was like send someone down there to yell china virus yeah that's the only thing that makes sense to me and turns out you were correct san antonio home of the alamo and american and texas free speech now hangs under a shadow of tyrants and communists claiming there is no free speech in san antonio there is free speech in san antonio so he just goes around and yells china virus into a bullhorn cool yeah wait a way to prove uh i didn't watch the video but i think
Starting point is 01:49:39 he must be in his car or something because i don't know what the fuck he's at i don't hear like from the parts of the port that i was listening to i don't hear people yelling back yeah or anything he's just doing the blues brothers yeah it's very weird but anyway you were correct on that i just wanted to give you a point for that thank you very much i'm two for three today uh better than alex so alex goes to calls like you promised and he takes a call from a guy who scares me a little bit and he wants to know if there's any way forward without war you believe that there is any possibility of of us having a presence in this platform without actually having to go to some kind of a war over this because we're talking about no sir we're gonna be completely
Starting point is 01:50:21 taking off everything and then they're going to start starving us to death and they're going to send robots to kill us but at that point their whole system is going to be collapsing their people will be desperately trying to serve it more and more to prop it up and the whole thing's going to go down it it will in today's world violent crime can victimize anyone anytime cut off by the break but uh real real bad clock management here oh boy yeah so you guys have two thirds of the government already that's true but the other third globalist oh that's fair we're going to have to go to war to get back the house no it's get on facebook and twitter that's what he's mad about so i i mean look it's not good to talk to your audience who are maybe not the most critical
Starting point is 01:51:08 minded folks right and they ask is anything possible other than war and your answer is no because when you've already sort of laid out all sorts of violence as being defensive in nature i'm not for offensive violence but defensive is you know it's totally cool yeah and a war is inevitable what is stopping you from a like sort of reasoning perspective like what's the difference between that and advocating you got to do something do you want the robots to come do you want to be starved out until the robots come what are you gonna do and that's that's the message that comes forth pretty clearly from alex is there anything we could do to stop a war oh listen to your neighbors no okay because there anything else we could do to stop a war
Starting point is 01:51:51 no i guess not eat your neighbors eat them so um alex also uh has a suggestion that i think is really fucked up and it's really weird to hear this coming from alex in particular police officers that have refused to arrest people that run their own restaurants or own barbershops they're being fired i mean you know i say you throw out the god the mayor and you make that police officer them the mayor that's what we need is pro human common sense people so alex wants the police departments to take over they want it they want to overthrow mayors and usurp the uh the seat of the city i do like that system i do like that system of uh of uh succession succession that's hey that mayors mean and i got fired for my job as a cop well i guess you're the new mayor
Starting point is 01:52:39 those are the rules man from alex that is almost unacceptable yeah that's so weird cops cops should take over the the mayor ships okay but um by that measure though then if the mayor was a right wing guy and like a cop was like you're and then he gets fired then he becomes mayor and then that creates an endless circle of different cops becoming mayor on a day to day basis one thing that you're you're adding to this that i think isn't implied is fired you got to get fired i think you can't be a cop in the mayor at the same time i think it's cops taking over okay well i mean uh yeah uh essentially militarized police system but committing a junta is bad wouldn't that technically be sort of a form of martial law to it would be absolutely it's not the military but now the police
Starting point is 01:53:29 are militarized yeah oh alex made some documentaries about that yeah but he was about a road right right about that god damn road right right right right so alex says he ends this show on the 13th with an interview with a guest who i have not heard on before and the sound is terrible so i apologize for that in advance all right oh yes yippie dot com and i'm glad he came to austin before he flies off another meeting i think rich grand bell is a really active fellow you know i'm not going to read his long bio here but he's done a great job so i have no idea why the sound is so echoey or anything there's something wrong with their audio and it's on their end there's nothing to do with us but anyway alex has this interview with the head of a search engine called yippie a guy
Starting point is 01:54:08 named rich grand vill it's fun that alex is buddying up with rich because in the past uh let's just say he's been a gigantic qanon supporter sure in 2019 mother jones reported on the digital soldiers conference which was organized by rich grand vill and featured general flinn and big q promoters bill mitchell and joy via the website promoting the event featured an american flag with the stars rearranged to make a q boom rich claimed that this very obvious qanon reference wasn't a qanon reference though he did say that he doubted that q was a conspiracy theory rich also described his company yippie as quote an intelligence enterprise with high level white house ties when mother jones covered the weirdo conference of his he apparently warned them quote you don't know who
Starting point is 01:54:54 you're fucking with this was probably because mike flinn pulled out as a speaker after mother jones reported on the very obvious qanon all right well there's that from the article quote i don't give a fuck about the deep state he said if i could i would shoot them in the head and throw them in shallow graves and let the dogs dig them up but i can't because that's illegal at one point during the conversation grand vill abruptly asserted that his iq is 172 sure why not why not why not good good stuff oh damn the people most likely to scream at you for disrespecting the flag would love to turn it into a q yep cool anyway this dude is a q profiteering weirdo who has this search engine if you remember the c pack episode that we did this is the search engine that ivan rikelin
Starting point is 01:55:39 was trying to promote when he was his turn to give a speech if i understand the situation correctly rich and yippie are big flinn fundraisers that conference that he had the digital soldiers whatever that was meant to raise money for flinn's legal defense so that explains a whole lot it pretty well explains why mike flinn jr was at the c pack event to begin with since he was hanging out with the guy who's involved with the company that was putting on fundraisers for his dad and now maybe they're sponsoring alex's show but probably not i mean they'll be really stupid yeah that'll be a real waste of money even if you're a weirdo yeah you gotta understand it's not going to be a good return oh man anyway uh here's a couple clips of this guy being a real fuckhead and i think the
Starting point is 01:56:20 united states can get through this you know europe's done right now they're they're finished uh really these are completely broken so the only way that we're going to get through this is through a god chosen president like trump who is playing 3d chess at a level of of superiority that no one else can even get to like they're so mad because he's so smart yeah that makes sense uh so yeah trump is a god appointed a god ordained king or whatever oh no i'm sorry just a president sure sure sure sure i misspoke god god appoints presidents but make sure they adhere to a two term limit i misspoke i'm sorry it was president or did i absolutely trump was ordained by god to be our king right now and that is translates all the way down to his family i got all the
Starting point is 01:57:05 pro all the prayer of hundreds of years like providence to that i mean we went from a luciferian scumbag like obama wow okay all right here we go i just can't understand i can't do it i can't do it in my brain alex's whole should be no kings no kings my brain he is super against kings i am a dedicated constitutionalist and i care so much about the second amendment i am willing to throw away the entire constitution just have the second amendment and i want a king yeah i want a king i mean if if he believed any of the things that he pretends to believe in having this guy on even if he believed in the same person uh as president that he does the guy saying he's a god ordained king yeah should be like get the fuck off my show yeah can't you can't support that no like let's say
Starting point is 01:57:57 you know it's 2012 i'm doing a show like alex's but on the left yeah or something i don't even know what that would look like i'm a big obama supporter i think he's great i prove that he's in the office i think he's doing a lot of great things for the country i have some crazy person on and they're like obama was sent by god and is our king i like i can't talk to you anymore bye who you you are you you're yeah it's and alex is just like yeah fuck yeah and he almost starts crying talking about how the prayers of hundreds of years have led to this oh my they are so out there i just i just wish that we were better able to cover these people because underneath so much of this shit is that kind of idea of and i see i do maintain the theory that it's because the right
Starting point is 01:58:42 wing so pushed the idea that obama was a dictator that they inadvertently created a right wing that didn't think that dictators were bad they just wanted their own dictator you you you feel like there was a normalization for that uh well i mean it might be something because obama wasn't a bad dictator if that's if you're if you're insisting that they he was a dictator and you're one of these right wing guys you have to be honest and be like oh my life didn't really change that much you know i guess i guess one way you could deal with that is be like well maybe my ideas about this were wrong or you could go the way you're describing be like bad dictators maybe they work maybe they're good yeah i don't know if i don't know if either of the like i don't think they would
Starting point is 01:59:24 come to that conclusion consciously but maybe on on some subconscious level i don't know that's an interesting thought maybe you should do some research on i will think about it but whatever the case i mean i don't know what like combination of maybe something you're talking about obsession to strongman leadership yeah all this like the the perversion of individualism whatever it is like this is what it comes to and you got a guy here and alex sitting around talking about god ordaining trump to be our king there's nothing more individualistic than submitting yourself to a god king everybody knows that the way that you really separate yourself and become an individual is by so oh god these people are fucking sad yeah i'm so sad and that they're winning well yeah we
Starting point is 02:00:13 have one last clip here and it's uh this guy yippie guy yippie kaya yeah uh expressing that you know the globalists sure sure they worship the devil and by extension this proves that god's real well hey if they're following lucifer then christ must be real as well right so there's your double-edged sword that is a very bad IQ of 170 dan 172 oh sorry that is a insanely bad level of thinking like if the globalists do worship the devil that doesn't prove the devil's existence no it does no it doesn't know it does if the devil exists that doesn't prove god's existence no it does proving god's existence doesn't necessarily prove the devil's existence no it does no none of these things are necessarily true it's just oh my god this level of thinking
Starting point is 02:01:13 just you just hear it and you're like i'm sorry guy i don't even care i mean i'm glad you're able to run a search engine i didn't check it out maybe it's a good search engine i have no idea but if this is what you bring into the table trump is a god ordained king and uh because the globalists worship the devil that proves god's real yeah i got nothing for you and i got to go we're gonna we're gonna need to create some sort of stronger way to deal with these people because right now it seems like all we're doing is just going this shit again and making fun of them on twitter and doing all that shit and there's so many opinion pieces written and all that and there needs to be some sort of united front against this it can't be we can't allow them to just threaten
Starting point is 02:01:59 everybody with violence while we mock them on twitter yeah and i don't i don't know that um anything that you can do would really be effective unless we first deal with kind of like a shared reality yeah that like there's no real way to deal with anything while realities are so distinct from each other that alex can do that reading 14 headlines instead of 18 as promised and thinking that it proves the point that he makes yep like and that being acceptable in one reality nothing i could do nothing none of the conversation that we've had it could possibly make a difference to that there's just different realities and until they're merged until those realities we come to a consensus of what is and what isn't real and what parts of things that i
Starting point is 02:02:47 don't believe are real but you might are acceptable for us to disagree about like let's say i'm an atheist and you're someone who believes in christianity sure there is a perfectly acceptable way for me to not believe in a reality of something you believe is real and us to be okay with that and move along in our lives yeah the shared reality doesn't have to extend to everything but there's some real basics and we're not living in a time or a place right now where everyone shares the same reality and the issues that you're bringing up i don't think can be dealt with until we do because i always say like education and like critical thinking skills and yeah those are important but if they're 20 years behind doing any good i think they'd still be
Starting point is 02:03:30 helpful and i think hopefully if you were to tackle some of those problems and work on them to an extent i think that maybe it would help in making people understand shared reality yeah but until uh until that's more addressed i just don't know what you can do and for now there'll be some people who think uh trump is a god appointed king so who cares whatever he does is great great and that's really sad that is really sad but jordan yes the end of the day we can all take pleasure in knowing that alex was almost almost star lord he was almost star lord god he would have been a great star lord he's so emotionally vulnerable as well true what makes him a great actor is the way he's able to tap into all of those feelings yeah and like
Starting point is 02:04:16 the capacity for growth yeah really clear in alex no he can portray a lot of different characters oh boy no matter what let's say alex does decide to quit abruptly tomorrow and go away for a month and never come back or whatever we will always have that moment when you realize that what he was talking about was it wasn't until he said kurt russell was in the second one but i was because i was going through it and i was like oh they're okay he might be talking about star trek he might think 2001 is he might be thinking yeah it could be anything anything and then he was like kurt russell's in the second one i'm like that is not real no that is unreal but it's amazing amazing and i appreciate it amazing thank you alex in advance for my next for our next episode that
Starting point is 02:05:03 was my bright spot that is absolutely my bright spot and we'll be back jordan on monday but until then we have a website we do have a website it's knowledge fight dot com you bet we're also on twitter we are on twitter is that another short fight and i go to bet jordan we're on facebook indeed i know you like down the show go to i choose ray really real patreon bow if you would like uh please donate to a local charity in your area we would appreciate that you are correct we'll be back but until then i'm neo i'm leo i'm dzx clark i am headlines 15 through 18 andy in chance us you're on the air thanks for holding so alex i'm a first-time color i'm a huge fan i love your work i love you

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