Knowledge Fight - #437: Gawain With a Telescope

Episode Date: May 27, 2020

Today, Dan and Jordan discuss a recent bit of news about their favorite Wacky Wednesday topic, the land of space weirdos called Project Camelot. In this installment, the gents take what could be their last walk through Camelot.

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Dragon Queen. Christie sent us some some masks and they fit her face perfectly. She is not experienced for her as opposed to you. She forced, she literally said she will kill me. If I did not point out that Black Dragon Queen, Christie made her life infinitely. Oh, that's wonderful. I must and I am grateful. Fantastic. Yes. I guess my bright spot for the week or not week. You both are screwing that up now is I was watching some videos of a guy, an ex-convict talk about life in prison. All right. Did you get scared? Right? I mean, I was already not really committed crimes. That's fair. I really got glad that I don't have to know any of that stuff. You know, like he's talking about how you clean a peanut butter jar and stuff. Sure. Sure. Like

this is fascinating to watch him rip up like newspaper and boil some water with it. Right. Well, I'm glad I just don't have to worry about that. I got hot water. I just don't get out. Yes, but it was also really fascinating to me like the ingenuity that is displayed by people in prison. Yeah, like you take away people's ability to do very simple things like send a message, a couple cells over or whatever. And they find these just meet like insanely elaborate ways to do it like hardening toothpaste up to make a weight to throw. Sure. Of course. It's it's it's it's impressive, but also very depressed. It bears out the old circumstances dictate kind of concept there. So Jordan, we had an interesting episode to go over today. I believe you. But

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there listening and you're thinking, Hey, I enjoy this show. I'd like to support these gents. Dude, you can do that by going to our website, knowledge fight.com. Clicking the button says support the show. We would appreciate it. Or you could take that generosity and that spirit and the twisted around and directed at a local charity in your area that's helping people in need. Yes. We would appreciate either very much the Jordan before we get to the formal episode here. We got to do. How's the year of the seltzer? Well, pretty well. Damn it. This last couple of days, I've really, you know what I've been doing. I've been really focusing on some like real meat and potatoes, basic cells, meat and potatoes, cells. Not these

like really fun, interesting, ambitious orange. No, not orange. Okay, but like lemon and lime one. Sure. Sure. What I did is I knocked out all the flavors of ice mountain. Okay. I found, you know, sing Lucy's of ice mountain sparkling waters. Okay. And so we went through the black cherry, the lemon, lime and triple berry. Hell yeah. All get a 60. They're all fine. Exactly. Fine. Yes, exactly. They are meat and potatoes. Seltzers real good serviceable, but nothing to nothing to get too excited about. You're not going to go crazy now. Also, I've gone with the can field. I don't know if you know about can. I don't. They have a soda called can field 50 50. Okay. That's sort of a Seagram seven and seven. No, it's kind of a

fresco vibe. Okay. I like it. I've always enjoyed that as a soda option. All right, it turns out they have some seltzers. So we got the lime and the lemon of those both seventies. They're better. They're better than yeah, but again, nothing too crazy. Nothing crazy. Yeah, but it's it's nice. I'm spending a little bit of time in this world of just like normal normal. So you know what? I have a deep question for you. Okay. And this is probably the year of the seltzer's biggest question. All right, would you revisit the ecstatic seltters as something that you would drink regularly? Do you know what I mean? Or is that as or is an ecstatic seltzer something that must exist in its own time period?

Do you mean you mean the ones that I've rated very highly? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Would you drink that? Like would you drink the lemon cello as just like a regular drink all the time? I probably wouldn't drink it all the time because I wouldn't want to get tired of it, but doesn't seem like a treat, but I would drink it normally. Yeah, same with like the AHA black cherry coffee. Sure, sure. I would. I would definitely go to those on a regular basis, but but yeah, I think that there are some that I've rated pretty highly that I'd be like I have to be in the mood for that. Yeah, that's what I was question. Yeah, there are there are some and and that's this is kind of one of the flaws of my my my rating system, right? And that is that like I do give

points for ingenuity and creativity. Sure, sure, sure, sure. And that makes things a little bit difficult novelty as well. Sure, which wears off. Yeah, yeah, no doubt. Yeah, so that's been the year of the shelter Jordan today. We've got an interesting episode to go over and I want to I want to say we're doing a little bit of a wacky Wednesday thing, but we're not getting to the Bill Cooper thing that I teased on last episode and that's because there's a little bit more preparation that I need to do on that and I have not had the time to really get as in depth on it as I want to because also as I referenced recently, I have to move and so I've been apartment hunting and that's a pain under normal circumstances, much more complicated. What's different now? Well,

there's this virus. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it's it. I haven't heard it complicates things a little bit and that is being that has been a little bit of a frustration and just like you know trying to find leads tons and tons of dead ends and stuff. So that's taken up a bit of my time and so the Bill Cooper thing will have to wait for when we can you know have the bandwidth to do it properly. It's got to be done. Right. But at the same time, there is something important that's going on in the world of our wacky Wednesdays and it's something that is going to have lasting consequences I think actually and it's the kind of thing that I was thinking about getting some music to play on this episode. Oh no. I was thinking about playing either the sound of silence that suggests you're

about to goodbye yellow brick road. Some other song that has goodbye in it is somebody shitting on somebody. No, no one's shitting. But I mean we've we've done it before, but I think we officially probably have to say goodbye to our friends at Project Camelot. No, we have to say goodbye. Yep. And we may not have a choice in the matter. Oh no, they might be saying goodbye. It's possible. I'm not sure. But just the other day, Carrie swear, Carrie Cassidy over Project Camelot put up a video where there was a big announcement that she made. Hi everyone. I'm Carrie Cassidy from Project Camelot. Hi Carrie. So we are going to be a subscription based website now and our website is project camelot.tv and I these are the three plans. It's quite simple

and easy to join and I can show you here on the screen the various ways to find it on our website. And what I'd like to say is that as many people know, YouTube has demonetized us a couple weeks ago and so this is our solution and thus we have Carrie Cassidy taking Project Camelot into a subscription model. If you pay a dime to Carrie Cassidy, I'm going to be mad at you. I think this I think this probably is the actual end of the road for us covering her nonsense. It has to be. For one, there's absolutely no chance that I will be spending any money on her content and secondly, it doesn't feel right to do episodes going over things that creators keep behind a paywall. Yeah, Project Camelot is stupid and I love mocking it, but I still respect Carrie's right to her

intellectual property. If she wants to try to get people to pay for access to her videos, it would be pretty shitty of me to pay for a membership than rebroadcast most of her videos on our own show. Yeah, that's just that's kind of unethical. You're actually right there. Yeah. So if she is going to a subscription model, then just based on my understanding of what I think the limitations of fair use are, I don't think we can do episodes about them. It's it's very frustrating that I agree with you because I think she's a bad person, right? And I don't like giving her a lot of respect for that. Well, I mean, it's not giving her respect. It's just the the her. Sure, sure, sure. I know, but playing fair doesn't seem fair when they're bad. Yeah, I don't really care. Yeah,

my morality isn't dictated by what these people deserve totally necessarily. I understand that, but this looks like where we part, you know, I'm and I'm not the only one going over the comments on the YouTube announcement. It appears that the response is pretty divided with some people saying that they're going to come along with the new model and others saying they aren't going to pay. This is bullshit. Naturally, and a lot of it is pretty fair. You know, there's there's a lot of people who are having their videos demonetized on YouTube right now. And so a lot of folks are trying to migrate to a subscription model of some sort. And so you hear like in the comments, there's a ton of people who are like, I get my content from XYZ different people. Yeah,

and I'm not going to be able to afford to pay all of them, whatever fair. Why don't you guys all just group up and make your own thing. And now we're back to YouTube. It's kind of way worse to make people have to pay for the lies you tell them. Yeah, that really fucks me up. Yeah, that is that is definitely you don't even have to pay for the not lies we tell you true. Yeah. So you know that's you know this is this is kind of expected. The some people are in some people are out. That's what that's what happens when big changes like this very fair fair. You keep some people in the fold, but you're definitely going to lose some of that audience. What's less expected is that a couple commenters point out in the comment section that the page where you're supposed

to sign up for a membership to the new project Camelot is an unsecured website. Okay. Alright, I went to the site to check for myself and sure enough it is an unsecure page which is pretty fucking dangerous. Let's put my let's put all my credit card info on an unsecured page. I love it. That's a great idea in theory. Anyone who signed up for her subscription service could have had their information stolen, which is just a gigantic bummer. That's a double whammy. Yeah. Ultimately, I think this is a terrible plan. I have zero faith that it's actually going to work out well and there's a pretty decent chance it'll just end up staying on YouTube. But yeah, we'll go back to project Camelot in about six weeks. Whatever the thing is, like this is

dumb. It's just dumb. Unless you're also putting all your content up on YouTube, you're never going to reach people who might stumble across your content. Like it's just it seems like shooting yourself in the foot in order to make a couple bucks. Yeah, she's going to catch 22 if she makes a lot. If she makes at least a significant amount of money from YouTube monetization and that's all gone, then she has no income there. So she tries to replace it with her. I guess subscription content, but nobody's going to follow along there. It doesn't seem like it. So it's it's she's she's fucked. Yeah. I mean, she might as well sell hats. Some people. I think she does make America Camelot again. I like actually does bring up that she's going to start

selling some merch or something. Perfect, but like I feel you know, I don't feel that bad because honestly because we don't sell any hats. No, she gets some hats. No, I mean, I don't feel that bad for the situation because it's like yes, you're sitting around talking about how the corona virus is turning people into vampires in China. Totally you and you're like denying that there is a virus and other times like yes get get you. YouTube has every right to say you can't make money off these videos. I don't feel bad about that. She's also gotten warnings in the past, so I don't feel bad about anybody being treated unfairly, but it's a shitty situation. And you know, I do wish her luck on some level, except I don't because she also might be an

anti semi right kind of is an anti. Totally is I this is to me. This is a lot like Al Capone kind of situation. You're getting her where her money is. You're not getting her for her actual crimes. You know, like she's spreading disinformation that's going to get people hurt. Yeah, and maybe even killed, but what you're doing is you're just taking away her money stream. So it's like, yeah, I get what you're saying, but she should probably be arraigned on some other charges. I don't, you know, as long as free speech is a thing, I don't know what you're going to do with that. But I mean, that's how it goes. I mean, Alex is probably not going to be taken down for anything other than some lawsuit. I wonder what his tech situation is. Who knows?

Maybe he gets a he gets some. What is it? What's the name of it? Now I'm mad. The name of the prison where Capone was. I don't know. Alcatraz. God damn it. Wow. It's no. It's bad. Go. I was even in San Francisco a year ago. We are recording a little later than we normally do. And I think it's affecting. It's not going great. This might be our last rodeo with project Camelot is what I'm saying. You know, it's brutal. Yeah. It's a it's a this is an into an era. Yeah. And it's the part that makes me feel a little bit stupid about this is that we've already been like, we're not going to talk about it right now. And then we've gone back a couple times. What the fuck is going on over here? We're on 10 installments of Mark Richards. Yeah. Yeah,

we've done it. And then, you know, if there is still content that's not behind a paywall that's still on YouTube that I still consider that fair game. Yeah. So there is a possibility that we'll hear more about Raptors and and antiquing and the mercantile cats right mercantile dogs. Excuse me. Spider leadership. Sure. There may be some of that in the future, but for now it's unclear. And so we will go on this last adventure in theory today. Wonderful. So on a couple days earlier before she made the announcement that she's going to a subscription model, Kerry got interviewed by a guy named Shepard Ambulus. Okay, who has an organization, I guess called. Okay. I think it's a blog called in telehub.

And sounds trustworthy. Sure. He is a guy who was first interviewed by Alex Jones in 2009. And on his YouTube page, it's that interview is on there and it says the interview that started it all. No, Alex has had him on as a guest very regularly. He's tried to give him a job for just, you know, the way he does on air all the time. I gotta give you a job. Yeah, that kind of thing. He was one of these sources for Alex's coverage of the Las Vegas shooting. Shepard would go on to talk about how there were helicopters shooting at the crowd and what have you. So he's he's a real ding dong, but he's very adjacent to Alex. So like this is a really close. You don't need six degrees. The separation on this one. Yeah, this is direct. He literally

is Kevin Bacon. Yes. Yeah. He is a guy who's frequently on Alex Jones's show and here he is interviewing Kerry Cassidy about whatever dumb bullshit she's got going on. See what's going on. So we start and Shepard introduces the thing because it's his show where he's interviewed. So you don't get to say hello to Kerry on this one. God damn it. But it starts with just like, hey, I really respect your work, which is a bad, bad start. You are listening to the Antelahub podcast. I'm your host, Shepard and Bella. And today we have a very special guest with us, Project Camelot. I know you all know the name. Kerry Cassidy is with us. Her website, project camelotportal.com. Kerry, you've done over a thousand interviews with whistleblowers.

First question, should you have fascinating stories I've ever heard in my life came from a lot of your interviews and fascinating people. This guy is terrible. He is so boring. He's got an awful interview style. He's got an awful droning voice. Right? It's very tough, but it's not great. You can see already just the way this starts off. He's seeding this ground of like calling these people whistleblowers talking about all the most fascinating, amazing stories. It's like, yeah, they are amazing stories. You're talking about how like the walking with dinosaurs are actual dinosaurs. Yes, that is fascinating. No, it's like interviewing Isaac Asimov and being like, so is Harry Seldon real? Are you sure? It's fascinating. Yeah. So if this

is our last time sitting around talking with Kerry, it's actually kind of fitting because Shepard asks her about her roots. How did this? How did this get going? Oh shit. Are we coming full circle a little bit? We get to hear a little bit about what led to the creation of Project Cam a lot. And of course it's a career that didn't work out naturally. Naturally. Okay. Well, I started out actually I was working in Hollywood for 20 years and I reached a glass ceiling. I decided to pick up a consumer grade camcorder and I started going out to make my thanks for telling us it's consumer grade. By the way, I started attending conferences and I actually got this idea that I would make a documentary saying have you seen UFO two speakers

who would talk about everybody else seeing them, but not themselves. I like that idea. I like that idea of like I was going to do this documentary where I just put a camera people's face and like, have you seen UFOs? I personally, I don't want to talk about what you know about the subject. Have you seen it? Have you seen it? Have you seen one? I've not. I would really appreciate a series of interviews that last about 14 seconds that start with. Hey, have you seen any UFO and somebody's like you bad? Nope. Oh all right. Next person next person also great great way to phrase it. I hit the glass ceiling in Hollywood. Yeah, that's a great. That is a perfect. I know so many comics wrong. I'm not saying she's wrong. I know a hundred thousand comics who hit glass ceilings

at open mics. Totally, which is not to say that women do not hit a glass. There's a glass seal. I'm sure there are, but I would suggest that there's probably a talent deficit. Don't think Harry hit the glass. Yes, I think Harry could hit the glass ceiling with a lot more work and effort. I don't want to. I don't want to diminish or make fun of the idea that there is a gender disparity and all that. That's all good and well. Totally. I don't think it's relevant not for her. I don't know for her. Anyway, I decided to get a camcorder and ask people this you proved in the second half of the sentence. You didn't hit the first half of the sentence. If that's the first project that you go to after you're unshackled for Hollywood dreams or whatever,

it's kind of indicative that maybe you don't have the best ideas. Look, I'm not saying that I hit a glass ceiling. Whenever I say my my stand up career hasn't gone great. Sure. It's, you know, I mean, I guess maybe a better way to put it is like you plateaued, you know, like because that's kind of like that's where you could get to. Yeah. Anyway, that's a great way to put my career as well. At a certain point in her trajectory of trying to make this documentary and asking people they see new foes. Upward and then very, very flat. She meets Bill Ryan, who ended up being her partner with Project Camelot at the beginning. Yeah. And who she believes is like maybe a reincarnation of King Arthur or descended from King Arthur or something.

In the process, I also came across Bill Ryan, who became my partner in Camelot, who was representing the Serpo.org project. And I invited him for an interview. I went to Laughlin that year. This was actually several months later after I was making my documentary. And I interviewed him. It went very well. We ended up staying in touch as friends. And I got a small inheritance from my mother passing to Egypt. And on the way back, I stopped over in England where Bill was living. And he showed me the power places in England, specifically Tintagel, where, which is one of the former homes of King Arthur. And that's where the idea was born to create a website. And for us to team up. So again, I have to stress, there is no consensus that King Arthur was a real

person. It's not, that's not born out by historical fact. Also, that castle that she references was not a home of King Arthur, even the legend. Sure. It was the place where King Arthur was conceived. Right. But I guess you could say he lived there based on being in the womb. I appreciate a legend being subsumed by such banality of like the the king who brought all of Britain together and pulled the sword from the stone inspired me to build a blog. I appreciate that. I like it. It makes me wonder if she views like Mark Richards as like Gallaghan. I'd like to see Lance a lot in her. That's probably Simon Parks. I would love to see what the round table is in their conception. I'll tell you what guy with the telescope.

He's there. Oh, yes, he is. He's going. I think I'm green night. Of course. I'm out of nights. Don't remember any more. Of course. So Gary gets to talking about this demonetization thing that she did. And hey, man, she didn't do anything wrong. This is completely bizarre because also my viewership, you know, has is quite large, as I say, and it had even jumped in the last three months. Like, so I was making even more money in advertising lies work. This whole COVID things struck. Yeah. But the bottom line is two weeks ago, they, I was doing some research, they, you know, deleted David Eich's channel. And then the same night they deleted, they demonetized me, they demonetized Miles Johnston. And I don't know

what other people they might have done the same thing to. So they're, they're basically, you know, cramp clamping down, they're doing a whole censorship thing. And, and there's it's completely nonsensical. It has to do with it because I don't have any videos. They had a problem with that. That's, that's nonsense. Did they not David Eich at his channel taken down for what he was saying that there isn't a virus. Well, they're saying that this is all fake. Yeah. Well, and you know, like it is, it is this interesting thing that like a lot of conspiracy theories have just sort of been ignored. And yeah, you know, and I think one of the one of the compelling reasons why this is so different in theory is that other conspiracy theories can lead you to radicalization

that could lead you to take violent action, but it's not really essentially dangerous. Sure. The like talking about how the Illuminati is in control of the world and they put pyramids and music videos. That's not the Illuminati. The Illuminati is not real. So it's fine. It could lead you down a road that would end up with you wanting to hurt Jay-Z maybe or something. But ultimately it's also just kind of stupid and Jay-Z can protect himself. It's relatively harmless. Yeah. Whereas people like David Eich spinning conspiracies about there not being a virus could very easily lead you to take actions that end up putting yourself and others at risk directly. And so I can see why you would take this more seriously and have a different approach to it.

Although it does. It does hurt things that no one like they didn't do this in the past. No, when you see two hundred people in a pool together, you're like that's David Eich's fault. I don't know. That's David Eich's fault. I mean if they're probably not do individually. If they're listening to that George Clinton song, then then it is David Eich's fault. That could be David Eich. So the bottom line here is the Kerry knows exactly what the fuck is going on. Of course she knows why there's demonetization and anybody who's acting honestly about this, they wouldn't be. They wouldn't be behaving this way. Trying to pretend like I didn't do anything. Yeah. Like, all right, whatever. Yeah. So this is pretty funny to me. Shepard Ambilis is talking

about how he's like YouTube owes him tens of thousands of dollars for back revenue or something. Back revenue. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. I'm not going to chase that. They haven't paid revenue for about five years. So they own back. I'm not going to chase that thread down too much. Mostly because something he says in this next clip that is just like, oh, you just don't know what you're doing. A weird thing they did to me was I basically haven't used my channel like in five, six, seven, eight years or something like that. I got mad because they were basically not ever letting me monetize it, even though they never really said anything about it. It's like I threw up it figured out. I don't know. But I stopped kind of using the platform and I was

just doing my website and all that. So I recently come back and I start this podcast up and it's kind of going, you know, and it's, I mean, it's only getting thousands of views or whatever, but it's starting to pick up. And then all of a sudden I get a notice that six videos got copyright strikes. So is he saying that's a conspiracy? I feel like he's just explaining what's going on. Yeah. In a very simple and direct way. There's nothing nefarious about any of this. Like when he, he's saying that like, I, you know, I got mad at YouTube because, you know, they weren't letting me monetize things, but they never said it. And maybe I just couldn't figure out how to do it. I think maybe you couldn't figure out how to do it. I think

that might be the more likely scenario. I put the first Avengers movie on YouTube and they wouldn't let me monetize it. And then about six years, 10 years later, I put Avengers in game on YouTube and they wouldn't let me monetize it. I don't understand why. The other thing too is like, yeah, those copyright strikes do happen. And like sometimes it's wild. Like I, we've posted a couple of our episodes on YouTube and we've gotten copyright strikes on all of them pretty much. And it's not because of Alex. It's because of the music Alex uses in and out of commercial breaks. So like I, I wouldn't monetize the videos anyway. I don't have any interest in that. I don't think we could make anything even if we

wanted to. No board, but we couldn't do it because whoever owns the rights to silver stallion or some highway men song won't allow monetization because their copyright work is a yeah of course. So I wouldn't be too surprised if it was something along those lines. Even if it is like shepherd using footage from news broadcasts ideas and have the rights to right stuff like that could easily get you a copyright strike that doesn't mean your shit gets taken down. It just means that if you try to monetize it, they get a cut right whoever owns the copyright of the material that you're using. Of course. So I don't know. I just don't. I think these people are acting like big babies. Yeah, I assume he opens every show

with a horse with no name and they're notorious for being copyright. Yeah, it's long. It takes up most of the show. So Carrie is trying to at this point. I don't think that she has decided on going with the subscription model and she's still trying to figure out what she's going to do about the demonetization. Sure. And shepherd has a dumb idea. What about just having your own products like Snoop Dogg does a show and he has like sneakers sitting on his desk because he sells the sponsor slots. Yeah, that's a that's a good question. I mean, we are just actually creating Kim lot products right now on Zazzle. We have a page and we got zinc baby. We're about to and so yeah. And you know, but that's not going to pay the rent. I know that it's tough. And

this is what they're doing to everyone. They don't want this information out. I guess the new law is basically finally here with this whole code. Finally, you know, it's it's the invisible enemy really is what is and they can use it like to their advantage. Yeah, I think one of the flaws of shepherds plan that he's proposing is no one would pay for advertising. You know, I don't think she'd be able to sell any ads to a shoe a shoe company. There's a there's a slight difference in relative credibility and popularity between herself and Snoop Dogg. Well, there's that. Yeah, I'm just saying she could sell some random pants. I think she could do it. Yeah, I think she could sell a lot. She could tell us about the home game gorilla

and where to hide your guns. Yeah, she could totally tell us where to hide your guns space definitely. Yeah, I will say though. I like to imagine that she's the same level of relevant as Snoop Dogg and that when they did the all cities remix of Welcome to Atlanta, sure they would get her to do the first for California. So soup. Why not? That would be great. Talking about Carrie Cassidy out there telling you about the LBC. If she moves to Atlanta, we know exactly what's about to happen. And that's that she's going to drop an LP that's going to blow our minds. Yeah. So in this next clip, Shepard, I think he's he's fishing for a booking here. I think this next clip carries a response is interesting. You were talking about

vortexes earlier. I had a really interesting experience in Sedona with what I think was a vortex I could tell you about sometime. And also, I've had three very close encounters with UFOs. And one was at dusk to the point to where I saw all the metal on the ship and the whole nine yards. There was four board one day for medals on the show. You can have me on. Okay. But yeah, you know, I love that kind of stuff. Yeah, I mean, that's that's that's fine. That's not how you want it. That's not generally I remember back when I do stand up and I try and get on someone's show like, Hey, I got a good five. You know, you know, I've done a few shows, you know, I got CYSK a few months ago. Whenever the responses. Yeah, that's that's all right.

You know what you should do? Send me an email that response is not not enthused, not an enthused response from Kerry. I've had a lot of experiences that would go great on your show. Hey, I got to go. Oh, no, you know what? That's great. I promise you we will revisit this. No, it's great. It's fine. I don't want to impose. So in this next clip, Kerry discusses her research into COVID-19. Sure. She has some. She had some bomb shells here that I mean, I don't know if she wasn't demonetized. David, I started it. This might actually hurt her monetization chances. What I can tell you is that my research says that this is a gray ET, you know, AI that is basically been created in a lab in Wuhan. Oh, the Guardian said that. It started Fort Detrick.

They've been creating a bio weapon there. Then it went from there to North Carolina. Then Chinese woman whose name I don't have in front of me took it to the lab in Wuhan and added the bat DNA. That's from the time's pick of you. Another animal. So it was more conducive, covered it with a protein sheet and basically then. Yeah, that's what I'm kind of trying to pick your brain because I'm trying to like what I came up with is like all this stuff starting to tie together and it's really suspicious. I mean, I don't I don't know if it's I don't know if it's all tying together as much as you're tying things together. I don't know if this is tying together. Yeah, man. Yeah, it's all it's all coming together. How is it tying together? Well, think of a way that

it's tying together. Well, you've got aliens now in the mix. You got biological weaponry. They are in play. You got evil scientists, right? It is all coming together. That that is the progression that I was looking for. Yeah, I mean, I don't know how necessarily dangerous. You know, I would say that David Ike's sort of just outright denialism is is more dangerous from just like a what kind of behaviors could it and like endorse sure. Stand point McCary is like this is alien AI, maybe less dangerous, but I would still say that's past the line. Yeah, I mean, it's just unfortunate for her that they noticed quite frankly. That's really the only thing that's going on here. This gets right back to our the grift is

perfect. If you stay in that sweet spot, if you get too big, the grift fails and if you're not big enough, the grift fails. You have to stay in there, but it's almost the same dynamic just generally with celebrity and that's where you want to be in the middle. You don't want to be so popular that people start to treat you with the like, you know, people saying that Tom Hanks eats children, right, right, right, right. There's a real hassle and a danger to being that level of famous. Yeah, yeah, it's like you're in the middle. You're a character actor. You get steady work. You're in a hundred million movies and people don't know who you are. Yeah, exactly. That's the that's the goal. Yeah, that's the goal for the grift to stay in the middle. I want a

nice. I want a nice condo the end. You want the Goldilocks zone right of propaganda and fraud. Yeah, that's what you got to do. So Shepard sort of is implying that maybe there's space stuff involved with coronavirus, but it's unclear and so Kerry Kerry seems to think that he thinks that COVID-19 came from space, which he doesn't really. This technology, this ET technology that's embedded in the earth in certain very key places that actually was put there many, many years ago, eons ago to shoot down incoming asteroids because this has been long, again, a method of war. We talking radio? There's reason to believe, of course, that Atlantis was sunk. Atlantis was sunk in pieces, but one of the main ways it was sunk was through an asteroid hitting it. Sure.

And and so on. So this is what goes on. Now, I know that it sounds as though you're trying to say that COVID came in on a meteor, but I don't know. No, not really. Although I did do some research and that's like stuff like that is possible and when comments come around. Okay. So are we talking about the end COVID strain? Is that what we're doing? Indeed. That's deep research. What they're doing here is like a big, big focus of their conversation is about like near earth objects. Sure. And and like, they're all there's there's been a barrage of them. Right. And Kerry's belief about this is that whenever there's meteors or comments, they're actually projectiles from sure it's a war that's going on. Of course. Of course. And so that's why they come back every

70 some years. That's the plan. That's the cycle of war. The cycle of war. Yeah, I like it. It's yeah, I am gonna real be real bummed in 2040 when we fight the Vietnam war again. Yeah, that'll be that'll be that'll be a real bummer. Pretty sad. So yeah, that's their their idea is that Kerry is espousing an idea that meteors and comets and your earth objects are generally a means of attack from aliens and she wants to clarify and so does shepherd that they're not saying the coronavirus is from space, which is really nice. I appreciate that. That's really nice of that. Yes. So there's all these rules man, you know, like people have to wear, you know, you're supposed to wear masks and stores

stuff like that. Sure. You know, so I'm sure they're pro those. Hey, man, there's all there's all kinds of rules. Like if you go to the beach, there's some rules you gotta follow. All right, where's this go? You know what? Sometimes people at beaches don't follow rules. And those my friend are the cool. Most let's say most semi intelligent governors are opening up their states and people are. I mean, they even opened up the beaches in Southern California. Supposedly can't lay on them, which is complete nonsense. But nonetheless, and people are ignoring those stupid rules anyway, but at least on the cool beaches, but cool beaches. Don't think Fonsi should be leading the coronavirus response. I really want just a enumeration of which beaches are cool according

to Kerry and which are not. I need to know the relative coolness of California beaches. Fonsi bangs some sand and cobit 19 disappears. I think that's the plan. Cool beach cool beaches, bro. Yeah. So Kerry, we know that she's known to talk to weirdos Eddie Page, the racist Pleiadian naturally the aforementioned guy with telescope. There's the guy with the telescope. There's the guy who made a movie. I don't remember his name. Don't worry about it. You don't need to worry about. There's the super soldiers who are weird. There's both the guy who can channel people, but doesn't need to voice does not need to do a voice, but also not the guy who can channel people, but does not need to do basis voice.

All sorts of folks. There's Mark Richards, the murder top top of space captain murderer. Simon Parks, the former MP who has sex with aliens. I still like him. I still think he's a good guy. Yeah, I don't know about that. So it's a it's a it's a wacky bunch. She's got a passive bunch of weirdos. Yeah. Yeah. But it turns out she has some other more credible sources. Now I can't say this is for sure, but I can tell you that I have direct contact with so-called white hats who have contact with the Trump team and the Q team, if you will, and the Q team, big sort of fly thing that just flew in anyway. There was a fly thing that flew in. It can just be a fly. I feel like we're dealing with Freud here. Sometimes the fly is just a

fly. It's the secret space program trying to monitor. And I can tell you that Trump's latest statements about how he's rolling out this, what did he call it? God, she's great on tech. Rapid fire. I think that's him. Okay. Sort of. I mean, they're all great on tech. I forget. But it's like, in other words, he is trying in a race with Gates, who is working with Gates, is working with DARPA and Department of Defense. Now, how does that work? I thought government is in charge of the Department of Defense. And suddenly Gates is trying to one up Trump. Yeah. What does that even mean? In getting a virus? I mean, a virus, a vaccine. So if you're following here, we got Kerry saying that she has people that she's in direct contact

with who are involved with Trump's team at the Q team. Of course. Because of course, Kerry's a big Q and odd person. Those are totally real. Very much. And they are telling her that Trump saying that we're going to try and fast track a vaccine is really just him trying to race Bill Gates, because Bill Gates is going to make an evil vaccine. Right. Trump is going to make a good vaccine. Really don't like this angle. It's so stupid. I just wish everybody could hate Bill Gates for the same reason. I hate Bill Gates, which is purely he has too much money. Sure. Take money away plenty of valid criticism. Totally. And some of them have to do with his money. Some have to do with philanthropic stuff. There are some questions, but let's just get

rid of his money and then we're all fine. It's ridiculous the way these people are doing this. But you know what? I actually think that this is kind of a positive. And what I see that as maybe has a buried negative within it, but it feels like it's their way of sort of psychologically dealing with the inevitability of needing a vaccine about that. That's a really good point. Yeah. Coming up with this storyline where Trump made a good one. Yeah. Yeah. If that's what leads them to get vaccinated, at least, whatever. Yeah. At least as if you accept the vaccine, fine, I will let you get there. How you get there. I think that like I said, there's a buried bad thing in it, which is like it could further get people down into the only Trump can

save us mentality, but ultimately in a public health crisis, if that's how you're getting a vaccine, if that's the story you tell yourself, whatever, like it like a vaccine is going to come and they're not going to give Trump credit for it, right? Like there's no way they don't say well it's because Trump did ble most likely end. Yeah, you know. Yeah. So but you see these things that Trump's doing like signaling that he's okay with vaccines. Oh, I thought it was being racist. No, no, no, no referencing the protocols of the elders of Zion. He's Henry Ford level, like I like Hitler, like that kind of stuff. Well, there's those things, but we don't talk about that. Okay, good call. Yeah, that stuff may leave that a fake news, gotcha or something.

No, he's time. It's important for weirdos like Harry and Alex to talk about the stuff like when Trump says, hey, we're doing this stuff with the vaccines, sure, because they're so against vaccines that they have to figure out how to make it okay, right because otherwise it should be a thing where it's like fuck Trump. We're out of this and the way that you can do this is by saying that he's there's a competitive vaccine. Well, there's that. That's the only yeah. And you have to turn it into like it's the art of war for the chest there. Sure. People don't understand how Trump operates and how they team operate. But what they're doing is, you know, I've done a few videos on this, but they're using this idea of game, you know, the state of the game and and and what we

call art of war. They're they're trying to merge with and not appear to be against what they are actually working against. And so they're they're going along if you could say on a parallel track to the enemy, up into a certain point when they intend to basically overtake them and and and take control. So or they're not, you know, that's also a possibility. How is it that that hurts my brain more than theirs? Or because it's the fantasy story they're telling themselves like the level of cognitive dissonance there makes my brain like explode with I need like 10 Tylenol. Yeah. And they're just like, well, obviously, 10 million. Yeah. It's the same thing with the Q stuff that constantly never happens. Yeah. It's like we're going down this road and then there's going to be

a hard right turn right and that turn never comes and it's just another right. This is just that mentality. Oh, good luck. Good luck. Same insane. So we have this last clip here. It's a little bit of a shorter interview because there's really not a whole lot going on. So far she has dropped some bombs of interesting information, cool beaches. Oh, you know, ogre is telling you your a bunch of nerds for opening up your beaches or cool beaches and I love the King Arthur or something or thirty and the legend is real sure. So but in this last clip we see a demonstration of something that really confuses me and I'm not actually certain whether these people are joking or not. Merlin aged backwards. Now I know that's not now

see that's the thing that a lot of people get stuck on. You know, you read the F Scott Fitzgerald Benjamin Button. That's bullshit. He couldn't do any magic. What's the point? That is a good point. Next. So I don't I need you to help me try and get to the bottom of if they're joking. I think that they're joking. I am underprepared. Drilling outside all of a sudden. That's all right. Go ahead. No, it's typical deep state. Yeah, no, that happens to me. They start mowing lawns and, you know, helicopters start hovering over the house. Do you think they're joking? Absolutely not. I can't tell because he's laughing shepherds. Absolutely not. Absolutely not. Absolutely not. Absolutely. I can't tell if they

really think that like some drilling and some construction that's going on or some neighbor mowing a lawn is a deep state attack when you're trying to record something. That's that to me is if they're not joking. That's fucking scary. Right. That level of paranoia is really, really weird. What I hear is like when I make a joke about something that's actually happening in my life, you know, like I make a joke where it's like a joke. It's too real person did this and here's my commentary on that. Not like here's a fun, fanciful situation that I'm making up. I am not I'm not doing some Mike Wiley bullshit. All right. I'm telling truth, Dan. So you think that there's a certain amount of discomfort that is causing the laughter. Totally. They are absolutely

telling the truth on what they believe is happening. That's got to be a frustrating way to live. Isn't it hilarious how they're doing this? Yeah, isn't it hilarious that they're doing this or isn't it hilarious if they were doing this? It's hilarious that the evil people are using a lawn mower and not a fucking laser beam. Right. You know. Yeah. I mean, I guess it does sort of fit in line with things like Gary thinking there's like a scalar attack problems are a attack from the globalist to the world order. Totally. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, that's that's real. That's real trouble. Although, you know, I mean, I could just say that my window leaking was a Patriot attack. That's exactly what it was. Yeah. How did you not notice that? How did you not notice that?

That must be what's going on. There was an American flag in water dripping from your I did. I did notice. This is weird. I did notice the next day. I walked outside. I looked up in my window. There was a don't tread on me fly. I thought that was weird, but I thought it was a coincidence. Well, you were wrong. Yeah. Do you know how many states were on that fake American water flag? How many 37? That's how many they accept. Yeah. So I mean, that that seems like a really unsatisfying and frustrating way to look at things like everything is an attack. Everything must be coordinated in some way. It's just oof. But anyway, it brings us to the end of this. What I find strange about that is that the paranoia is so severe and yet is treated

mockingly. Do you know what I'm saying? You mean I believe that they believe that they are under attack. But the implications of their attack is so massive and so huge that it seems ridiculous to treat it as like. Oh man, don't you see how weird it is that this global interstellar fucking cabal of monsters combined with aliens is using lawnmowers? Like do you not understand how much more terrifying it is that they use lawnmowers? See, I don't think that that's what he's laughing. I don't think so either. I think your analysis is very interesting and there is a farce to it. I don't know. It's it really. It's unsettling to me. Yeah. But if this is if this is the end, then this is the end for Kerry and my friend. It's kind of a fitting end because one it's

boring and ultimately that's something that everyone needs to know is that Kerry is very boring. Yes. The show is incredibly boring, except for the parts that I end up finding to discuss. Right. Second, the reason that this is kind of a fitting close Coda to Kerry is that she's being interviewed by somebody who is an info wars associate, of course, or someone who is actually like a guest pretty regularly on Alex's show and someone who Alex wanted to fucking hire. Yeah, so you you'd see this like these two important pieces. She's boring and this is pretty much become at this point very similar. Yeah, her her space of the secret space program weirdo alien shit is more or less normal right wing stuff. Now their Venn diagram has no further

on, you know, no further non connection points. Yeah, like it's all one big perfect circle. Yeah, it does. It does. It feels like it's becoming more and more that and so maybe we don't need her anymore. I think she's done. Well, good luck on your subscription service. I wish you I guess the worst carry. I don't know what else to say. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah. Good luck. It'll be what it is. Yeah, but we'll be back Jordan with another episode in a couple days, but until then we have a website. We do have a website. It's knowledge fight.com. Yep. We're also on Twitter. We are on Twitter. It's at knowledge underscore fight and I go to bed Jordan. We're also on Facebook. We are on Facebook. And if you would like to tell us

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