Knowledge Fight - #438: May 26-28, 2020

Episode Date: May 29, 2020

Today, Dan and Jordan discuss the week that was on the Alex Jones Show. In this installment, Alex attempts to take credit for Trump's executive order about social media, accuses Democrats of killing p...eople in nursing homes, and the gents discuss Alex's response to the evolving situation in Minneapolis.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys knowledge fight. Dan and George knowledge fight. I love you. Hey everybody. Welcome back to knowledge fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes like to sit around to acknowledge the beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Oh indeed. We are Dan Jordan. Jordan. Quick question. What's up? What's your bright spot today? Well actually interestingly my bright spot for today is I was sitting around. I was looking at Twitter which I'm not. I don't do a whole lot of sure. I don't engage much with social media. I barely like any posts very much. I don't put out promotional
Starting point is 00:01:25 materials on Twitter much. Although maybe we should almost certainly. But I got a rare like I was given out today. You gave out a like Twitter like like shit. I've never gotten a like from you. Probably not. Our friend Robert Evans tweeted something about the band Five Iron Frenzy. Oh yes. Yeah. Yeah. I saw that. I saw that. God damn it. It reminded me that actually recently I'd been going back through listening to a little bit of Five Iron Frenzy and I do think a lot of it holds up. But also a lot of people do they are all wrong. I saw them live when I was very young. Quite young. Quite young. One of my first concerts. No I was okay. I was the appropriate age. All right. But I saw them. They were
Starting point is 00:02:06 great. They were all wearing Star Trek uniforms. Sure. Holds up. They were having a goofy S. Scott time. Right. You call it. There's one member of the group called whose name is Jeff the girl. And I found out recently that she actually has a new group or a new work group. I don't know. I don't know how I stumbled upon this. I think it was through like listening to Five Iron Frenzy. Yeah. Anyway, I think it's called the fast feeling has the name of it. I got like a nice synth pop kind of thing. All right. Very nice. There's a little church is kind of style. Yeah. A little bit. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like purity ring. Okay. Maybe a little less ambient is some of that stuff. But yeah, I enjoy quite
Starting point is 00:02:45 a bit. So I'm glad that she has gone on to some other interesting projects. Yeah, that is and that you know we have help getting the word out about Five Iron Frenzy. Again, I really disagree. Next up. O. C. Super Tones. We're gonna reclaim it. I do. I do like the idea that there are there's fun and then there's scoff fun and that's a whole different brand. I also like the idea that my tastes from when I was 14. I'm gonna be vindicated. I will be vindicated. Everyone mocked me my whole life, but I will end up being shown to be correct. Well, I think people who love disco have been have been proven to be correct. Absolutely. Over time. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Listen to some of that. Italo disco. Why not?
Starting point is 00:03:34 So what's your bright spot? My bright spot is my partner has been watching how to get away with murder and my bright spot is that she's almost done because I find it unwatchable. Unfortunately, once she's done, she will know how to. You know what? You're done. You don't learn how to get away with a murder. This is a big issue I have with it. All of the things that they do. They are totally going to get caught for that murder. Terrible. I mean the guys, you know, rope isn't gonna. It's not perfect. That's fair. Well, I'm glad that that's almost over. It's almost sure. It'll be replaced by another fun show. Naturally. So I'm hoping to look forward to that. I'm hoping to trick her into fringe. Watch that. Yeah, that'd be good. Yeah. And you could
Starting point is 00:04:14 learn about reality. It's what I'd love to learn about Alex. So Jordan, we're getting an interesting episode to go over today. We got a bit of catch up on Alex. Sure. Sure. We're going over May 26th through 28th. That is Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday of this week. If you're nasty, very slow news days all within the year of 2020 when I'd like to remind you that I'm Dan and this is 2020 I'm going to say that I'm not in the mood for bullshit today. I'm not going to be suffering Alex with a lot of patience. No, there's not. It's, you know, we're going to cover a lot of the current events that are going on. But shockingly, a number of things are completely ignored by and some things are reported in exactly the way you would expect
Starting point is 00:05:04 them to be. Naturally. We'll discuss some of those dynamics and as best I can consider a productive way. Right. Right. Right. But there's some other interesting stuff that goes on and I'll spoil this. I think Alex admitted to a felony on air. Sure. Maybe someone could investigate that if they're if they're interesting if they're boring. Yeah. Yeah. So we'll get to that by the end of this episode. But before we get down to business on that, Jordan, we had to take a little moment to say thank you to some folks who signed up and are supporting the show and do a disappointing seltzer report. No. So first, Ja Rule one word. Thank you so much. You are now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thanks, Ja Rule. Ja Rule murder. No. Next, Corey. Thank you so much. You're
Starting point is 00:05:49 a policy wonck. I'm a policy wank. Thanks, Corey. Murder. No. Next, Sean. S. Thank you so much. You are now a policy one. I'm a policy one. Thanks, Shawn. Murder. No. Next, Megan. Thank you so much. You're now a policy wank. I'm a policy want. Thanks, Megan. Next, Andrew W. Thank you so much. You're now a policy wank. I'm a policy wonk. Thanks, Andrew W. Next, Cassandra as Thank you so much. You are now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wank. Thank you. Thank you. Next, Mold Children Charities LLC. Thank you so much. You are now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you, Mold Children Charities LLC. Yes, thank you very much. And then finally, like I said, thank you to somebody who donated on an elevated level. We appreciate
Starting point is 00:06:27 that very much. So Dorian, thank you so much. You are now a technocrat. I'm a policy wonk. Crikey, mate. That's fantastic. Have yourself a brew. How's your 401k doing, bro? All right, we got to go full tilt buggy on this Watson. All right, let's just get down to business. We ain't making that money off that heroin. Why are you pimp so good? My neck is freakishly large. I declare info war on you. Thank you so much, Dorian. Thank you very much, Dorian. And congratulations on what 200th birthday? The paint 150th birthday picture. Yeah. Yeah. So along those lines. I always like to be really, really pedantic. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. People say it's the portrait of Dorian. James Joyce wrote the portrait of the young artist. That's the
Starting point is 00:07:07 confusion that most people have, I believe. Yeah. But if you're out there listening and you're thinking, hey, I enjoy this podcast and their literary references and I'd like to support what they do. You can do that by going to our website, knowledgefaith.com. Click the button to support the show. We would appreciate it. Or if you feel so inclined, please take that generous spirit and apply it to a local charity in your area or in some sort of a field that you feel passionate about to help people who are in need. Yeah. So Jordan, like I said, disappointing seltzer report. We're just going to get it out of the way real quick. I got nothing. I got nothing. You didn't you didn't try any seltzers. I I'm at night. I'm
Starting point is 00:07:44 stuck at 92. Yeah. I mean, it's still good progress, but I've got nothing to report. No, no, no. I have. I don't. I can't be nothing good to report or just nothing. Nothing to report. Can I be honest with why? No. Okay. I'll lie. No. Here's what's going on. Sure. I every time I go to the store, I try and stock up on seltzer seltzer. Exactly. Yes. So I'll go to the store and I'll end up getting, you know, like a bunch of the loose bottles right of seltzer and then they're in my fridge and I periodically throughout a long period of time, I can grab one and that allows me to keep adding to the list without having to go to the store over and over again. Like it probably sounds like I am right. Right. It sounds like you go buy a seltzer and then come
Starting point is 00:08:27 back home and like nibble on it like a squirrel and then go out and buy another one. Hey, make some fan art. Squirrel Dan nibbling on a seltzer. Yeah. And so what ends up happening is I have a number of them in the fridge. I have been trying to find this apartment and so I've been really busy with that and going to like a couple of viewings and I haven't really stocked up on seltzer in a bit. Sure. And so the only things that are left in my fridge are all coconut flavored. I have four or five flavored ones and I can't get myself to drink. You're dreading the coconut. I've been just drinking like ones that I've already had before that I had to buy a six pack of. So there's like a couple
Starting point is 00:09:13 that are in my pantry that I've just been like I'll just put these in the fridge for later. So I don't drink that coconut garbage. So I think that what's going to end up having to happen because I will never drink those of my own volition. I can't imagine them being good. They've got to be terrible. Yeah. For our next Q&A episode. I think we should try. We'll both the pantheon of coconut. Gotcha. Gotcha. You'll you'll subside. You'll misery loves company. So yes. Yeah. I think that'll somehow make it a little bit more taller. I like it. So that's the seltzer report nothing to report. But maybe something in the future. No seltzer indeed. So Jordan today, like I said, twenty six to twenty eight. Right. This is going to be a bumpy ish ride at points.
Starting point is 00:09:53 But in addition to me being sick of Alex's bullshit and not I'm you know not not that I generally pull punches up on any punches today. But in addition, I feel like I would like to offer a little bit of a window into the creation of one of these episodes. And so along the way, I'm going to give a couple of little notes that can help people understand exactly like the process that goes into some of this. I know I've gotten a lot of questions about that. Right. And it's really difficult for me to answer the question without doing some of it illustratively right through the show itself. So there'll be a few notes along the way and it sounds a little naval gaze if you don't have those, you know, you get back and you're like my process. Right. You know,
Starting point is 00:10:35 I don't want to pretend I'm like James Lipton. Yeah, interview subject. Exactly. Exactly. So this first clip is where we start on the twenty six and it's Alex launching into a bit of a new narrative surrounding coronavirus statistics. You've seen the meme that oh yeah, great white shark attacked a lady and they called it covered nineteen. That meme is a joke. But where it comes from isn't this is just in the news today at national file dot com. We're going to post this article on them four words dot com gunshot victims count as coronavirus deaths in Washington state. This is some real original reporting. Freedom Foundation reports today. Freedom Information Act request and they admitted gunshot wounds, car wrecks, suicides,
Starting point is 00:11:25 and then they test you with the Bill of Mlandi gates. You in testing kit that the FDA shut down for fraud and the kit finds almost everyone is positive if you've had the flu or a coronavirus on average the last decade. So the glimpse that I want to give into people listening is that clip was less than a minute of Alex. And what I'm about to explain to you took over two hours, two and a half hours ish to break down. Right. Now we can ignore all the stuff at the end. That's just the bullshit about that lab that we talked about already. The if you've had a cold in the last decade, all that's pretty standard stuff. But the new piece that Alex is bringing to this is this report that was put out by the Freedom Foundation, which is a name that if you hear
Starting point is 00:12:10 it, you should be like, I don't know about this. Now look, every organization that we talk about with national freedom, patriotism, all of those very trustworthy because that you can tell they're focused on freedom innocuous names like that are a real like you should raise an eyebrow. Yeah. So Alex absolutely has not read this report past the headline because he's just making stuff up about freedom of information requests and stuff like that. He has no idea what this actual report was saying. In the report, they were looking at Washington state death figures and trying to parse out how many of these deaths were directly caused definitively by the virus, and which might have been people who have the virus, but unrelated to that have done outside the hands of conspiracy
Starting point is 00:12:52 theorists. This isn't a bad question to be asking. Since the more precise data we have, the better we can respond to the situation in front of us. However, in the hands of conspiracy theorists, audiences will just hear headlines and made up conclusions. The Freedom Foundation's first piece about this came out on May 18th, and it hypothesized that the state's quote reported COVID-19 death total is inflated by as much as 13%. This number was taken from Washington's Department of Health data that showed 13% of deaths, which quote involve persons who had previously tested positive for COVID-19, but did not have the virus listed anywhere on their death certificate as either causing or contributing to the death. This is not definitive, but if you
Starting point is 00:13:36 read the report, the Freedom Foundation clearly has an angle on this. Such as to imply that most of these aren't coronavirus deaths, but even so, if you read it, it's not nearly as extreme as Alex's take on it. Well, I mean, even if it is actually 13%, then that's great. There's 87,000 dead due to coronavirus, you know? Sure, I don't want to see that ground, but I agree with the point that you're making. Yeah, fine. So on May 21st, they reported an update on the story, which included reporting on a telephonic press briefing that the Department of Health had held. The DOH statistics manager, Katie Hutchinson, was quoted as saying, quote, over the course of the outbreak, we've been monitoring and recording the causes of death
Starting point is 00:14:26 as we know it. We currently do have some deaths that are being reported that are clearly from other causes. We have about five deaths, less than five deaths that we know of that are related to obvious other causes. In this case, they are from gunshot wounds. This is the image that people like Alex will latch onto and make their big story. But I have some very serious concerns that this report and the Freedom Foundation is not giving the full picture about this press conference. Luckily, I got my hands on the audio of this press conference, and I can play for you some of the parts that are conspicuous in their absence from the original reporting, which naturally means that by the time this is getting re-reported by Alex, the story is absolutely no connection to
Starting point is 00:15:05 the primary source material. So this first clip here is Dr. Katie Hutchinson explaining that there are some non-COVID deaths that get listed. So when we talk about near real-time information, similar to our case identification, we have been releasing death information within one day of being aware or notified of the death. So particularly for deaths, releasing this preliminary data this rapidly is really not our normal practice. Our normal process relates releasing final death data, which I'll explain in a few minutes, takes up to 18 months from start to finish. We also found that in the early stages of the outbreak, medical certifiers were really not aware if their patients had COVID-19 and did not have a clear understanding of how to complete the
Starting point is 00:15:57 death certificate accurately for COVID deaths. So because of this, we implemented some processes to connect data from multiple data systems to try to identify deaths to COVID cases as early as possible and to work with certifiers and local health jurisdictions to understand which cases were dying. Over the course of the outbreak, we have been very aware of a small number of deaths being reported on our dashboard that end up not being due to COVID. I will describe these deaths more specifically in a few minutes and we will be removing them over time from our death count. This is part of our regular process for reporting preliminary information. We know that the quality of information naturally improves over time and that will allow us to improve our death count.
Starting point is 00:16:48 Ultimately, as I will describe in a little bit, we suspect that we are actually more likely to be undercounting deaths than overcounting them, which will become more apparent once we walk through the process for how we identify death. So here Hutchinson is saying that this kind of fast turnaround in reporting is not business as usual for the Washington Department of Health and naturally the process wouldn't be without some hiccups, but in order to create the kind of information that people need, you have to do an augmented process. Right. We don't have time to maintain our high level of quality standards. So in order to get the best possible estimate out as soon as possible, that happens. These firmly definitive sort of death certifications can take up to a year and by
Starting point is 00:17:37 that point, you are out of the window where this information would be actionable for us right now. And so there are going to be little things that come up along the way and these few cases that she's talking about are included in what you would call those hiccups. Here she talks about that a little bit more. We currently do have some deaths that are being reported that are clearly from other causes. We have about five deaths, less than five deaths that we know of that are related to obvious other causes. Scandal. In this case, they are from gunshot wounds. We don't have any deaths currently being reported that if anybody who died in a car crash or any other sort of accident. So there were a few cases that are something like a gunshot death was labeled as COVID-19,
Starting point is 00:18:25 but as the process refines itself, those cases will be removed from the tallies. This is the only thing that people like Alex will hang their hats on because it's what they need to create the narrative that all deaths are probably a fraud, as opposed to this being part of a system working far outside its normal operations where serving the needs of the moment can often lead to a few mistakes. Earlier, we heard Hutchinson say that she was convinced that the state's numbers were actually undercounting actual COVID-19 deaths and she says more about why in this next clip. This is a particular issue early on in the outbreak where a death certificate might have something like pneumonia or acute respiratory distress syndrome and the certifier was unaware
Starting point is 00:19:09 that the person could have been COVID positive. So it's unclear. We currently in our system, we have about 3000 death certificates that indicate symptoms similar to COVID-19. It's unclear whether any of these could be COVID-19 related. So that's the part of the press conference that's conspicuous in its absence from the Freedom Foundation's coverage, which seems weird. If you have an interest in the less than five deaths that were miscategorized as COVID, shouldn't you be way more worried about the possibility that there are 3000 more deaths that aren't listed as the virus, but totally could be? Why? Those are Bill Gates, Scam, Schemes. Those were the preliminary before they had the UN test.
Starting point is 00:19:51 The state of Washington only has an official death count of about 1000. So if any considerable portion of those 3000 death certificates are COVID-19, that could seriously affect their numbers. That could be like on the low end, twice as big. I refuse to believe any sincere person could hear this press conference and come away with the impression that the less than five deaths is the headline. Unless they were cherry picking and their whole goal is to provide cover for shameless hacks like Alex Jones to yell about how the whole virus is a hoax and everyone needs to go back to work. And thus it should come as no surprise to literally anyone that the Freedom Foundation is a free market think tank that's almost entirely bankrolled
Starting point is 00:20:29 by conservative billionaires. Their big recipients of money from the Cokes, from the Donors Trust, as well as from the Bradley Foundation and the Scapes, they're little more than an anti-union anti-worker agitating policy house, which is paid by the super rich to argue against them having to pay their workers more. For instance, in 2014, they released a policy paper arguing against mandatory sick leave rules for employees. That same year, the Guardian released a fundraising letter that the Foundation put out that said, quote, the Freedom Foundation has a proven plan for bankrupting and defeating government unions through education, litigation, legislation, and community activation. They've also been militantly opposed to raises in the minimum wage
Starting point is 00:21:09 laws. The Freedom Foundation is exactly the sort of place you would expect to hear this kind of shit from. They're bought and paid for mouthpieces of the people who aren't worried about the virus, except in terms of it, you know, keeping people home from work. I know I don't need to spell this out for you, but to make things perfectly clear, these people are paid by billionaires to make everyone else's lives worse. They write things like this COVID-19 Washington story, not because they're uncovering some truth about these less than five deaths, but because it helps shift the conversation and it gives cover for politicians to put workers at risk. The dead giveaway is their funding, but also the fact that their article doesn't mention the 3000 death
Starting point is 00:21:46 certificates that aren't listed as COVID, but might be cases. The omission of that information is proof positive that they took what they wanted from the press conference and ignored the part that was inconvenient for them, which is fraudulent. Yep. They produce this seemingly professional piece with a snazzy headline, and then Alex and Rush and Hannity can report on the headline. And that's all anyone will hear. They won't go find the actual press conference and listen to it. It's hard to read. There might be as many as four pages there. Yeah, these people who are producing this report know they're lying if they listen to the thing. Yeah, of course. And their entire job is to create lies for propagandists to repeat and they do it because their lies are
Starting point is 00:22:21 profitable to the right wing billionaires who pay them. I think billionaires are great. First off, my stated position has always been I want a small number of people to have as much money as possible. That's me through and through. Yeah. So I was really frustrating, but I'm glad that I understand it. Yeah. Yeah. So in this next clip, Alex talks about the New York Times. I know your favorite publication. Love them. Unbelievable. Here's another one. New York Times. U.S. death near 100,000 since last Friday at incalculable loss. Sixth name on New York Times list. Six in of coronavirus victims. A 27 year old man who was murdered, murdered when you get stabbed, when you get shot. You are a COVID-19 death. Ladies and gentlemen, this is all happening.
Starting point is 00:23:12 So this is Alex's defense and sort of support for his other, you know, prong of the narrative, which is this Washington, right? Five deaths or whatever. I suspect that Alex is taking this story from the Washington Times since that's a favorite source of his and they seem to have an article about this. Another great publication. Sure. Yeah. Alex seemed to miss this part of that article, though. Quote, Mr. Haines name was later omitted from the newspaper's dramatic front page list of nearly 1000 names under the banner headline quote, U.S. deaths near 100,000 in incalculable loss. The New York Times issued a correction and they fixed this before the late edition went out. These sorts of mistakes and oversights can happen and the times did what
Starting point is 00:23:52 they're supposed to in that situation. They owned up to the error, made a statement to correct their mistake and published an updated version. Something tells me that this was a solitary error in their list because I have a hunch that conspiracy sleuths probably Googled every one of those names to see if they could find things to yell about and they got this one. Yeah, that sounds right. Anyway, the point here is that the times made a mistake and they responded appropriately. I'll take Alex seriously about this complaint about other media outlets making errors. Once he issues a correction properly, maybe about the whole FDA closing down the lab story that he mentioned earlier. There's that he can make a correction about that if you wanted to
Starting point is 00:24:26 New York Times, 99,999 deaths, a calculable loss. Good work guys. Yeah, really a split in hairs. Yeah, you got it. And thank God you are. Yeah, no, I mean, where would we be? Where would we be? So yeah, it's pretty lame. Alex might need to issue a correction about this too. This is how dumb they think you are. How suggestible. And that's why 80% in the United States of COVID-19 deaths are over the age of 85, looking up for yourself. It's the same thing in Europe. It's the same thing everywhere because it's a fraud. You die when you've got all these other diseases and kidney failure and liver failure and lung cancer and bone cancer and brain cancer and they come in and stick a test in you that's designed to be a fraud
Starting point is 00:25:14 when you croak and they say it's COVID so you can scare the living daylights out of the public. And I know all of you know this. So what Alex is saying there is not true. He's just pulling things completely out of his ass. Yeah, that's that's not surprising. So from the CDC's provisional data, we can take a look at demographic breakdowns of COVID-19 related deaths. And from that data, you can see clearly that Alex is wrong. The cohort of people who are over 85 have represented 20,179 deaths as of May 16th. That's 80% of 100,000, right? That's right. Yeah. The total at that point with their data set was 62,613 deaths, which would make the population over 85 represent 32.3% of the COVID-19 deaths, which is just shy of the 80% figure that age group is the highest
Starting point is 00:26:01 overall individual group, but the 75 to 84 age group represents 27% of the deaths and 65 to 74 is 21% of the deaths. The numbers drop off from there, but the population between the ages of 55 and 64 is still 12%. Yeah, it's still something. Yeah, this touches everybody. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, my point here is that Alex is making up numbers because the actual numbers are contradictory to his narratives. Also, if Alex is to be believed, there's a very important question that he needs to answer. He's alleging that these evil globalists are just taking everyone who's over 85 who gets sick and dies of natural causes and they call it COVID-19 to scare everyone. This seems to be him leaning closer to the David Ike there is no virus. There is no virus. But leaving that aside,
Starting point is 00:26:44 he now has to explain why there are so many more people dying this year than usual. If it was just the thing where they're just classifying natural cause deaths as COVID-19 to scare you, then you'd expect the same number of deaths as other years that just all be COVID deaths. And that is not what you're seeing. The CDC put out a report on May 15th, which calculated that just in New York City from March 11th to May 2nd, there were 24,172 excess deaths compared to long term averages for that period of time. It's really hard to get a clear picture of things right now, but some of the indications are looking like when the dust settles, we'll be looking at larger numbers than we're seeing now. But even without nailing out precise specifics, I would
Starting point is 00:27:25 like Alex to explain those excess deaths. I will tell you right now, we're missing the real plague here and that is giant hornets are taking over the Northwest. I did you know, we haven't heard about those hornets giant hornets. That's why New York is God decimated. So that's one theory or you know, I basically I want Alex to plant a flag somewhere explain that is it five G you want to you want to get married to go for it is it vampirism do you want to go hang out carry cast there are vampires. Is it alien AI? What are you going to do man? What are you going to do? Choose something pick a lane and fucking stick with it because you need to explain that if your whole thing is going to be this game. I'm sick of it. Yeah sick of it. Anyway, Alex believes that
Starting point is 00:28:08 the COVID situation all of this all the masks and you know, business clothes and what have you it's to make us not stand up. And the more we submit the more they squeeze to see what they can get out of you because they're trying to erase thousands of years of progress of humans standing up and demanding liberty and paying for it in blood and in treasure and in time and in everything else. So that's what we face as a culture and as a society. Spoiler alert by the end of this episode Alex will not be so thrilled about some people standing up. I was going to say Dan, do you think that there will be a difference in how important standing up is to him very shortly? I don't know. Let's see. So look man, Alex is is deep in the weeds of the bullshit
Starting point is 00:29:03 about you know all the coronaviruses are fake all the deaths and everything. Sure, sure, sure, but he has a he has a couple passions in life. One is selling his products camping. I don't know if he likes to camp. He does like to run around shirtless in the woods. That's true. I don't know. It's part of it. Okay. No, his other passion is telling obviously not true stories of social interactions. Yes. Yeah. He always makes time to do that. Every grocery store I go in every gas station I go into every restaurant I go into now the theory open partially when the waitress walks up I say you can take that mask off well we were ordered to and I say but you know they're counting every death car wrecks gunshot wounds people that had cancer as
Starting point is 00:29:51 COVID-19 they're like yeah I heard that and most people are actually somewhat informed and most people I talked to actually already know all this and then I say to him I say then you need to tell other people you need to let them know it's a fraud and this female waitress was sitting there yesterday and she said you're right I need to and her and the manager and the other person took their mask off and said this is all just a giant hoax I am Spartacus fuck off and then I sat there and exchanged phone numbers with her and said I'm going to send you and I wasn't hitting on her even though she was attractive all right what is that now that needed that needed to be in there just in case my wife's listening just in case you were
Starting point is 00:30:44 wondering if I'm an alpha male just so you know and I'm also chivalry chivalrous yeah fuck this yep pretty lame who is talking to him that isn't carrying an automatic rifle right like this I mean these these interactions didn't happen no no it's not sensible who is it we should all be like I go to this I go to this restaurant I'm talking to the waitress of a key to have to wear that mask it's all the fraud I know well you got to tell people then you know what you're right you're right it's exchange phone numbers exchange phone numbers about what you're a fucking waitress working it's a restaurant in Austin you're not aware who Alex Jones is you don't know from his behavior that he's a he's a wacky dude I'll tell you there's one man who just on site I think
Starting point is 00:31:28 I want to exchange numbers with this cat the guy whose neck is bulging and he can't stop yelling everything hey take your mask off during this pandemic let's share numbers yeah you sound trustworthy yeah yeah so Alex has another narrative that's going to take over for a bit of this episode and a bit of the next and then that is a continuation of the story we heard on our last episode that we covered of Alex's which is about that guy there was that 20 year old in Detroit who beat up an elderly man in a right a nursing home right right right and there's an unfortunate wrinkle to that story and that is that that kid that man who's 20 yeah he had tested positive for COVID-19 of course of course god damn it and so no Alex is going to take that story
Starting point is 00:32:15 and he's going to build on it and try and create a narrative that the Democrats are trying to ship young people yeah with COVID-19 into nursing homes in order to kill off the old people and so that's why in New York in Michigan in California in Oregon in Washington State in Minnesota all the Democrat rat nests New Jersey they're on record shipping young people into nursing homes and saying nursing homes are where COVID patients go go. Meanwhile the hospitals are empty and the heroes at the nursing homes one of the most abusive industries on record some are good some are bad I know folks that have worked in nursing homes physical therapists that are wonderful angels there are plenty of
Starting point is 00:33:06 evil people in there as everybody knows exchange numbers with them and so oh if the whole nursing home gets COVID-19 that's 13 that's 13,000 smackers per person and then lordy lordy lordy one of much the Alzheimer's patients that are 90 years old on average when they get that COVID they said the UN set the standards snake a tube down their throat intubate them 39,000 sweetsies but you got to put the poison in so it's hard to get people already nursing homes sick so you find people in the community that have it you get them tested and then you ship that weapon like like the British troops giving the Native Americans smallpox blankets that had smallpox on it you just give it to them
Starting point is 00:33:59 and then you get all that cash. So according to Alex this young man this 20 year old guy in Detroit you know he was in the hospital because he tested positive for coronavirus and that's not really true sure this meant to imply that he tested positive and then he was sent there intentionally to infect elderly people so the doctors could scan Medicare or something but also there's no virus. Yeah Alex walks a real weird line with that I think we'll get into that here in a little bit but obviously Westwood Nursing Center cannot release this this guy's medical information but they did comment that he was a temporary patient there to quote undergo rehabilitation and recovery there aren't more specifics but if you combine that with what his
Starting point is 00:34:43 family has said like that he has the mental state of a 12 year old and suffers from mental illness it seems very likely that he was there for rehabilitation on one of those grounds. Yeah according to Fox2 Detroit he'd been in a mental health facility in Ann Arbor but was diagnosed with COVID-19 and was quote supposed to be taken to another facility to be quarantined. From all indications that I can see here what happened is likely a complete breakdown of responsibilities. It seems entirely possible that there was a failure in communicating between facilities about his diagnosis and further his father has said quote had I known he was there I would have never consented to it. Anyway the point here is that Alex can in no way back up his claim
Starting point is 00:35:22 that they're sending young people with COVID-19 to nursing homes to intentionally infect the elderly so someone could make money off Medicare. That's an example of him taking some of the details of this story twisting them and writing them into a grander plot that he's pretending he's uncovered all over the place. It's all these evil Democrats. It's just his perverse imagination. Do you know what it reveals though is how much or how little these people view the value of a human life. Like really 40 grand is what you're willing to kill people for 40 grand. Like if you believe if that makes sense to you that's because you believe that's a fair value. Well you know and how much do you think people are like making from insurance and Medicare Medicaid for other procedures that
Starting point is 00:36:10 are just what happened normally. Yeah you know like how much do you like it's not like this is that much more no than a lot of other procedures. I need an extra grand. It's yeah it's ludicrous to imagine that this and it's going to get even worse once we realize something down the line. Yeah that would preclude them from behaving this way. But you know Alex is Alex is really swinging for it. I mean this is just really dangerous stuff because they're they're saying you know I don't know what the odds are but there's a possibility there's people in Alex's audience have lost family members maybe even have some family members who are in nursing homes that kind of thing and what you're doing is create your setting a fire. You're saying that your political enemies are
Starting point is 00:36:59 literally using people as bio weapons to kill your family exactly in nursing homes for 30 grand or whatever. Also he does still support Syria and Assad. He hasn't talked about it in a while but there. So in this next clip Alex gets kind of mad that people are criticizing Trump about chloroquine because he's getting people killed. Perhaps. Yeah we don't need to go over that too much but I keep this clip in because he freaks out like a little baby about it and then he tries to like focus on the stories about how there's all these fake diagnoses of COVID-19. Sure and I think you'll very quickly realize that he's not prepared to even do his own show. And they're calling for my arrest all over the news and everybody else's arrest and they're swat teaming
Starting point is 00:37:45 with guys with MP5's. Only doctors facilities when they're giving people vitamin C. You piece of filth vitamin C crappy America. They're like how dare the president tell people hydroxy chloroquine and zinc and Z-pack it's just doctors all over the world 100 success rate on record. Shut up Trump shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up fake fake fake fake fake fake because we're going to put an engineered cold virus out that we own and we're going to kill a bunch of people and a bunch of other people that didn't die that died in car wrecks and gunshot wounds and stabbings and cancer and heart attacks and dog bites. We're going to count them all as COVID-19 baby. Look at these articles gunshot victims count as coronavirus deaths in Washington state.
Starting point is 00:38:48 Sixth name on New York Times list of coronavirus victims is 27 year old man who was murdered. Then you go deeper in the whole list it's just full of people but I mean they'll put you on the list if you died in a car wreck or a gunshot wound and here's another one gunshot victims count as coronavirus death in Washington state. This is just today's news. So you can kind of see there at the end how Alex operates. Obviously the thing he planned to rant about today is the whole idea of gunshot victims being countered as COVID deaths and that's all good and well but he doesn't do any prep work and it's painfully obvious there. I have no doubt that he shows up to the studio 10 minutes before the show sees a couple headlines and is like I can work with that. He has a narrative
Starting point is 00:39:31 built up in his head where he has all the proof but when the rubber meets the road this is what you have. You have two headlines, complete fabrications about both and then reading the same headline a second time without realizing it's the same story. Alex just has absolutely zero familiarity with the topics he's covering past the surface headline level and it shows and it's just a bummer. I would say that he should retire so some hungry competent conspiracy weirdo could come in and take his place in the pecking order but I don't think there's anyone to do that. He still should probably retire though because this is getting depressing to watch. Yeah I'm filled with a lot of rage. It's very difficult for me to like whenever it gets this
Starting point is 00:40:12 bad I'm just not loud. I'm just shaking. But that's good because we have to take the window open today so please keep it like that. I did notice a little bit of what I would describe as a coiled spree. There's a little bit of that. I don't understand what you're talking about. Nah come on. Sorry. For what reason? You're going to get hypertension. No. Come on. So if I get a heart attack then I'll be counted as a COVID. Can I get the 30 grand? Absolutely. Yes. So Jordan, if you think you're mad, you're not mad. You're not mad. Not compared to Alex in this next clip. Also partially that's because he thinks about Brian Stelter. Fair. The default thing you don't do like don't throw a newborn baby in the deep end of the pool. I should clarify. He's talking
Starting point is 00:41:00 about Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer and what she has done of course related to the virus. And she's got the baby throwing it right in the pool. It's like don't go to fireworks factory with a flamethrower lit or don't pour gasoline on yourself and light it. Don't jump in the backyard with 15 starving pit bulls. Don't go to the local zoo and climb in the bingle tiger cage. I mean don't take a bottle of cyanide. Don't chop your dick off. Excuse me but this is ridiculous. The default position is keep infectious patients away from the nursing homes and Democrats in unison and globalists from Europe to Australia to the United States. Ship them in there to call their asses. I want to give you a little warning. This is a long clip
Starting point is 00:41:50 but it's because Alex is fake anger. Alex is way over the top with this. Yeah, this is bad. Yeah. And it goes a lot of places too. Bunch of murder and scum. See what they can get away with. You're like well maybe they're just stupid. That's why they run their mouth about killing old people all day. They don't want to just kill those old people. They want to kill everybody. And I'm not going to sit here and take it. So I've been pissed. I've been really pissed behind the scenes because I hadn't been really telling you what I really thought. These people are murdering us. And I tell you we sit there and put up with them killing these unborn babies and these little kids and keeping these
Starting point is 00:42:33 babies alive and taking their orders and killing all these old people. And we deserve whatever the hell we get. And let me tell you we're going to get it. But man I look at the eyes of that governor. That woman's the most evil looking person. She's more evil looking than Hillary Clinton. People say I mean if you have any discernment you see the evil. Some people go watch Joan C. and Brian Stelter that looks evil. Are you joking? Pull up the governor of Michigan just a random photo of her on screen with those crazy eyes. You watch her. You think oh that's just a crazy photo. Every video she's like you're all standing in your houses. I mean look at her. My God. And then it's Stelter. These are bad people. That's a murderer right there.
Starting point is 00:43:27 That is a murderer. That is a disgusting. Look at that boy. Look out. He's a common. Wow. Man. Calm it down Pachino. What do we do? Chill up your spine. I don't know what does. Or you don't have any discernment. Lord of the Rings. Sting the goblin cleaver. That sucker. Sting the goblin cleaver. When goblins are around. Well let me tell you. You can take one look at those people and lock up your kids folks. Lock up your doors and grab your ass with both hands because they're coming for you. I got to bring Bilbo into this. God helps man. That's not human folks. That's a demon. And I just get upset around these people. Oh look at that. Look at that demon boy.
Starting point is 00:44:23 Oh boy. That's bad news right there. Oh look at that face. That is a predator that wants to do one thing and she or even when it came out two months ago don't put sick people in the nursing homes. She said we're sending the COVID patients to the nursing homes. So I was trolling a little bit there. I wanted everyone to feel my pain. It's like because I think sometimes I do Alex a solid by totally playing like these long clips where he's just like oh look at that face. Do you know what the problem is that a show it's so similar to to the way that not not on purpose but the way that the media kind of packages what Trump says because if you print actually his long stupid rants you're like we're we've run out of
Starting point is 00:45:13 inches. Yeah. You know like how we you know we make fun of some of these ads that he does but if I pointed out every time yeah like it's like well that'll end up hurting the quality of our yeah. Yeah. You can't never talk about it. So every now and again I got to throw in something like this to be like holy shit. This is what the show is like. What a moron. So anyway Alex has the story about Gretchen Widmer a little bit wrong. The Michigan governor didn't demand that COVID-19 cases be sent to nursing homes. However she did sign an executive order in April which quote mandated that nursing homes with less than 80% capacity create dedicated isolation units for COVID-19 affected residents. An MLive article about this from April 15th makes it clear that what the
Starting point is 00:45:55 order was seeking to achieve was to create safe separate areas in long term care facilities where it was possible and in cases where it was not possible to transfer patients who tested positive to quote a facility in the region that has one which would be a dedicated unit. Right. These facilities where people who tested positive for COVID-19 would be sent to would be quote regional hubs that will only provide care to residents who have tested positive for the disease. Alex is trying to twist that wording into being that they were you know to become regional hubs for anyone who tested positive which isn't the case. Sure. This was about nursing homes being required if possible to set up separate areas to treat residents who tested positive who still need
Starting point is 00:46:35 specialized care. Governor give a good idea. Alex she looks crazy. Well who's going to win. It's an idea and an approach to a challenging problem. Yeah. I've read the executive order and if their goal was to actively spread the virus in the homes they put some roadblocks up. For one it makes it so the executive order it makes it so any employee at the any long term care facility who has much as displays quote one or more of the principal symptoms for COVID-19 should remain in their homes or places of residence and that their employers shall not discharge discipline or otherwise retaliate against them for doing so. Seems like you wouldn't offer that to workers if you're just looking to spread a virus like it would be easy to leave that paragraph out.
Starting point is 00:47:19 Now I think they I think they definitely use that as a smoke screen. It's a load of bullshit. Yeah. All that's going on here is that Governor Whitmer is someone who Trump has targeted in the past so she's one of the big villains for Alex right now. I don't know what I think entirely of the executive order because fully evaluating it is far beyond my pay grade. But what I can say is that nothing in it is about sending infected persons to nursing homes to intentionally infect people. That's just some bullshit that Alex has dreamed up to make himself mad. If I had to guess I would assume that Alex just recently read a headline about how Whitmer amended the order to give facilities more flexibility giving getting rid of the 80 percent capacity rule. Sure. To allow
Starting point is 00:47:58 people places to like well we can set up a unit. Well we can't. Right. Okay. That's right. You can set one up here. Right. I think he probably just heard about that and just got mad about it. Of course. And I think he's just looking for ways to escalate something. Yeah. These people. So this fucking guys. Yeah. This continues. Alex is super mad. Dems are murdering us. They're sending human time bombs into nursing homes. Sure. And this is where I want to give the second glimpse into the creation of these episodes. At this point you know we had that whole thing at the beginning about the Freedom Foundation and Alex is freaking out a bit here. But until I heard this next clip I wasn't sure if we had an episode after I heard this clip. I was like all right. I think
Starting point is 00:48:45 I think we got some we can work with here. You know some gang bear goes and kills an old person in their house for a thousand dollars a jewelry. And man we send their ass to the death chamber. We send them to the lethal injection and we should. But boy when the government and those corporations and the Democrats roll up their sleeves and go to town on some old people to make something a thousand dollars off of everyone they murder murder murder murder murder murder murder murder murder murder murder murder murder murder murder murder murder murder murder murder murder murder murder murder murder murder murder murder murder murder murder murder murder get your ass what's wrong with people they're killing people every all over the damn country hundreds
Starting point is 00:49:38 of them a day to jack their numbers up these people aren't a political party they're a group of satanic demons who've promoted worse and worse people into power positions where you now watch a democrat event and men women black white old young they're all up they're going i mean they're like a movie where gremlins attack they all run out label and you're like this is ridiculous so i don't like being under them i don't like being their slave and let's just say it we're all caught in their thing right now i don't like it i don't like the fact that they're these little pussians are tying me down and tying you down right now they are tying you down and they think it's funny well i don't think it's funny and i'm gonna break free and i need you to break
Starting point is 00:50:33 free with me i'm gonna break i gotta plug we won't be here we've got this uh special running a memorial day special and it's a lot of great products i love a growling and pitch sir this is a denny's we're gonna need you to we're gonna i don't know how you could listen to that to be like god this guy gets it you know what i want this guy's on the level i want ogre from revenge of the nerds to do all of my ad pitches from now on that's my plan i also think that there's a very limited number of movies that have gremlins in them uh there's gremlins one right there's the new batch gremlins two right uh i'm sure there's a directed dvd probably yeah yeah i was not allowed to watch those movies as a kid my parents thought
Starting point is 00:51:32 they were too scary and possibly demonic right well that's fair so that clip is the kind of thing i was like yeah we got an episode yeah that'll do it that'll do it kind of ridiculous performance that leads straight into uh like i've never heard an ad pitch where he's like mentioning a sale through gridded teeth these this is that's overacting yes that's overacting i'll i'll say that and that ad pitch goes on in that same voice that same angry voice of course well we got coconut protein bars even orson wells never chewed that much scenery when selling something tick so on this may 26th episode it was really interesting to listen to because it really felt like alex is almost in some ways returning to normal like it felt like there was a lot more of he's
Starting point is 00:52:25 reopening his narrative so to speak i don't i don't know about that there's just like more familiar things you know and i guess that's not fair because he has like started to dip his toe back into seth rich stuff sure in the past uh a little bit so it feels like a gradual return to like oh i remember when you used to do this and uh so of course i'm not against the average muslim oh boy they're a human being with a soul and a lot of them are great people but the political systems of islam are authoritarian and oppressive and anti-western anti christ and wait till i tell you about what you believe wherever islam's in control and outside of that is the house of war and so it's non-compatible but in europe and in now united states to great
Starting point is 00:53:10 extent except for trump and especially in the uk they're accepting the most cancerous forms of islam and so here's an islamic call to prayer broadcast on loudspeakers in great britain that's been celebrated as political and spiritual diversity imagine if i bought a building in the middle of london and put a he couldn't afford it buddy speaker on there and started talking about the new world order or about jesus christ they come shut me down saying hey you don't have a right to do that public area so what's going on here is that because it was ramadan and a number of cities uh you know they've granted a permit for mosques which are closed due to the coronavirus to they could broadcast their call to prayer over loudspeakers this was not something
Starting point is 00:53:56 that just like went through the entire city of london or anything it was more localized to communities of people living near mosques right there was only nine mosques involved in london which is a bigger city than can be overwhelmed by nine loudspeakers our fan uh abraham told the metro quote because the mosque is such a focal point especially this month not being able to go is very emotional for my parents at home they were in the garden and heard it so at least they could listen to it and hear it coming directly from the mosque it meant a lot for them that the mosque is still there and serving its purpose hopefully this will be over very soon and we can get back to some sort of normality so normal imagine if i were to build a building and then regularly at certain intervals
Starting point is 00:54:38 of time a large ding would occur right what kind of monster would that be now that is one part of this and really ultimately alex is just trying to scare his audience with the image of non-white non-christians taking over the west yeah this is essentially white nationalist agitation wrapped in the comforting blanket of victimhood like you mentioned church bells ring through american cities all the time and if alex really wants to play fucking games i'll play games with him and i'll tell him to go down to state street here in downtown chicago i used to work downtown and literally every day on my way to the red line i would have to pass this one asshole standing there with his own microphone plugged into an amp every single day i would have to walk past him
Starting point is 00:55:18 yelling at people that they're going to hell calling women who dressed in ways he found ungodly whores and saying all kinds of homophobic shit this guy out on state street harassing people he's out there so much that he has his own wikipedia page specifically because he harasses people with such regularity in chicago yeah i know that guy this is how like this is how huge of a public asshole this guy is after trump canceled his rally in chicago back in 2016 the right wing was going on about how chicago doesn't care about free speech in response people started posting a meme with the state street preacher and the caption quote anybody thinking chicago denies freedom of speech doesn't know this guy in the biggest busiest section of one of the country's
Starting point is 00:55:59 biggest cities a bastion of evil globalist leftist demons this guy has not only been preaching into loudspeakers for decades he's also been harassing people hatefully pretending that's preaching and no one has shut him down yeah so my point here is that alex is wrong can't go fuck himself and all he's doing is trying to make his audience more scared of muslims yep so fuck you but it's it's back to sort of normal it feels like it's been a while since we've had one of those narratives straight up muslim baiting yeah yeah it has been a while yeah we've been we've been denying hundreds of that are a hundred thousand deaths for a long time and alex is so focused on like you know virus and china stuff yeah but it's interesting because now that his Islamophobia
Starting point is 00:56:38 is back up because of this story i guess sure i don't know what's causing this maybe went to the pool supply shop yeah people were worshiping in a normal fashion for them so that's threatening yeah for alex but because that is on the rise because that's ascendant again that intersects a little bit with china in an interesting way but from michigan to texas from london to los angeles from rio de gennaro to berlin named five more cities all the prayers i don't like to come to his chinese but they don't put up with that because they know it's a group trying to take them over do your thing don't try to take me over see this here's where alex can really and truly go fuck himself wow he's saying that china doesn't put up with islam and they should quote to do their thing
Starting point is 00:57:26 this seems to imply that alex has no problem with the chinese treatment of muslims this just doesn't square with how whenever he wants to attack china alex will bring up their treatment of the weaver people this is just so indicative of how everything is a tool for alex the plight of the weavers is useful whenever he needs to attack china but it's not so useful when he's trying to make people scared of islam it's not productive to be concerned about oppression directed at muslims if your argument is supposed to be that they're taking over i feel like a pure distillation of alex's worldview it's captured right there do whatever you want but leave people who remind me of myself alone yeah that's basically the bottom line can you believe how evil china is for orchestrated
Starting point is 00:58:08 what is essentially a genocide listen china go ahead with the genocide just leave me out of it right and and great work and i will continue to yell about the things that i find abhorrent about your treatment of the weavers whenever i need to make of course about you but do your thing i mean i want you to keep doing it because then i get to yell about it right yeah so apparently uh some people uh in the uk um were fasting along with the muslim community in solidarity around ramadan sure and alex takes that as a threat oh man he doesn't like it yeah so here's the lib dem leader fasting for holy month of ramadan in solidarity with muslims so this this dim democrat leader over there is promoting you know sexualization of children everything sure i'm promoting islam here it is
Starting point is 00:59:00 it's an early rise for me today as i prepare for my first ever fast in the holy month of ramadan i want to show solidarity with muslims who in isolation during this month hit pause real quick you know i'm not saying this guy's a child molester back it up i'm just saying he looks like one i mean i would this big creepy you know out is this here oh the muslims oh i'm gonna virtue signal to them oh that i'm fasting oh yeah right he'll be he'll be 20 pounds fatter at the end of it so it's just disgusting to see the way that alex will so wantonly use accusations and insinuations of pedophilia against anyone he wants to attack if you decide to engage in an act to make non-white non-christian groups feel welcome in society that's enough to trigger alex yep to that point like it's crazy
Starting point is 00:59:58 yeah it doesn't take much to go from just regular old evil globalist to obviously he looks like a pedophile sure yeah anyway there's also something interesting to add to this story that alex could have covered if he wanted to and i would like to hear his take on because i'm sure it would be stupid but one of the folks that was doing this gesture in solidarity a guy named ian manning he wasn't the guy in that video but he's another guy who was involved he was planning to do this fast for ramadan but he so he woke up in the morning and he tweeted a picture of his breakfast pre-fast which included bacon of course and then he had to of course apologize like i didn't even realize yeah yeah whoops a doodle yeah i i should have stepped forward two steps back kind of thing i
Starting point is 01:00:42 should have just eaten my uh morning chicken wings yeah yeah so i wish alex would have talked about that because at least it would be interesting as opposed to his just blanket whoever uh you know whoever is nice to people i don't like uh that's unreal uh yeah what a disgusting monster totally so alex has a guest coming up and it's a guest that we haven't heard from in a little bit um he is a guy who has been known to have his own currency sure sure uh that should tip you off it's great dude it's great dude um alex has a warning though before he comes on air max geyser is going to pop in which is great i like max but if he just he does a serious show on rt if he does that show we're gonna have a nice discussion if it just turns into a like a
Starting point is 01:01:30 Tourette syndrome of a bitcoin production promotion i'm gonna end it which because i'm just i'm out of gas man and i like max geyser i like the max geyser on his show the max geyser on my show i don't like him alex isn't wrong max geyser is very different on his show he just uses as a platform right try and sell but not max coin i think that's dead right he's just trying to push people into the bitcoin marketplace of course particularly through the channels that he right endorses the last time he was on he and alex it was all just about i like hey alex i tried to give you a ton of bitcoin that would be worth millions now i was like god damn it that's why he's very bad y'all i would yeah if someone had offered me like a thousand bitcoin when they were worth a penny
Starting point is 01:02:20 yeah or something like that and i said no now like sure if somebody'd offered me ten bitcoin whenever they was uh penny now i'd be like god damn it that but it was much more than 60 grand it was much more than ten for alex back then i believe it and uh it that should give you some sense of how rich max geyser is also he is loaded he's loaded huh god damn it uh most likely and less evil evil always wins god damn it i have i have a strong sense that he might have a lot of millions yeah god but alex uh you know what's before he gets this interview with max geyser he's got to hit some of the hard-hitting news of the day let's play former van halen frontman the red rocker sammy haggard oh boy i'm not walking down anymore this is this is important
Starting point is 01:03:08 this is important stuff sammy haggard so uh speaking like this jeans by the way oh what about his booze i can't can't like it can't like it um you know what booze that's interesting i remember that i was got a d y a little bit ago i remember that too yeah and remember after that he said i'm never gonna drink because then you know no one will have it over me or anything yeah he would never drink again yeah bad news about that oh no i've never seen such an awakening i was in a just tell the story trip i was in a liquor store my wife about two weeks ago getting some beer and wine for a party some friends were gonna have and i'm in there and there's wait what people in there and they just mob me they're all like i used to think you were full of it i'm a liberal
Starting point is 01:03:50 you're right it's all a scam it's all a fraud yet another story that didn't happen but uh probably what did happen is i went to the liquor store yeah that's a booze for a party my friends are having maybe his wife got maybe his wife bought him a flash mob sure for his birthday or whatever it is uh they all showed up to the liquor store by cameo yeah is a zoom flash mob or something i was i was going to get some beer and wine for a party that i shouldn't be going to yeah so max geyser shows up and man this is amazing this is one of the man i've never heard an interview like this how long does it last it lasts the entire time oh okay i thought it was gonna be uh oh i mean when alex said if he'd start selling bitcoin i'm gonna cut him off he doesn't of course of course
Starting point is 01:04:37 of course because dude i can't i don't even know how to set this up i've never heard somebody do something like this on his show i'm gonna throw down the gauntlet and i'm going to change your viewers lives right now i'm gonna give every one of your viewers ten dollars of free bitcoin right now if they go to swanbitcoin.com forward slash alex the promo code alex they'll get ten dollars free bitcoin right now right now that's your on ramp to bitcoin okay no more i'll be accused in some sec thing this is the first time learning of this uh which is right that's right i'm not i'm not playing anymore okay we're going to finally make a solution available to your listeners that are now going to experience the hardest money ever in the history of humankind
Starting point is 01:05:28 and escape the fiat money prison all right swanbitcoin.com forward slash or you can use forward slash kaiser use my name or forward slash alex it'll get you to the same place you get ten dollars free bitcoin that's the best deal and here's the deal here's the deal listen when i said i like currencies outside the system just not even for the speculative value but so you could actually get across the border with money that's yours and and to take care of your family so when i told you i like i get the concept of bitcoin i don't like the speculation the wars but this is what i'm talking about you're on the show and i knew you probably plug bitcoin but now what speculations promo code alex here they're gonna have the damn fbi come out of black helicopters are probably six hours over
Starting point is 01:06:11 this i don't even know i thought you were ready to fight you don't understand max you don't understand if i wipe my ass wrong the freaking fence i thought you were ready to go into the ring okay where's the fiat money caught off by the break oh that's good stuff that's wild that is you gotta produce your show man oh oh and you're doing oh and better start beating the shit out of alex because he's a cuck now that just happened that is brutal yeah he'd be destroyed by oan i surprised alex with the url that is and a promo code that is his name without god that's such an ass kicking yeah that is a flex at the highest like said before the interview if you start selling bitcoin i'm going to end the interview he not only doesn't end the interview max is like he has to have
Starting point is 01:07:05 prepared that promo code oh yeah oh yeah oh yeah that is he showed up and just completely forced alex into that that is outrageous that is really really fucked up that kind of tells you about a implied power imbalance between them oh yeah and that leads me to believe that max knows he can do whatever the fuck he wants on the show and that makes me maybe suspect that this is brokered program yeah pig i'm not positive obviously but like that would explain it although another possible explanation is that you know we're looking at how shitty alex is treating joe rogan lying about his spot right i was just thinking about that same thing yeah yeah maybe this is just how alex thinks friends interact yeah because max is being a real asshole
Starting point is 01:07:55 maybe it's just like hey my world this this is how we it's just how it bros do it psychopaths are just like haha i took advantage of you and a really unimmoral and fucked up way fleets your listeners you got me you got me i can't wait to take advantage of you and some immoral fucked up way we'll give ten dollars of bitcoin to all your listeners and one of them falling down a trap will make up for all of the whatever we give away yeah no kidding god it'll be great ten dollars of bitcoin is what one one thousand one yeah something terrible so alex in this next clip they come back and they're talking like he doesn't kick him off he doesn't kick max off the show and i think he starts to come around on it a little bit but the problem that alex has is he's not getting paid
Starting point is 01:08:37 i'm trying to fix the problem by offering a solution out of fiat money bitcoin has proven itself over nine years never gone down for a major promotion it's gold i have to agree with the position i have to think it's moral i have to think it's overall a good bet for my audience i have to understand it i have to tell them and then i gotta get paid by this operation to feel these little baby birds that are very hungry get rid of the preamble he's like a little baby i just gotta get it cut let's talk let's talk you know i maybe i jumped the gun it's always i'm gonna get the money i'm gonna get the money you know it's important that we get this information out there i think you agree about that so alex being like it's always like yeah i mean you're gonna get the
Starting point is 01:09:17 money you know like him saying that makes me think that all of those other things about like i have to be sure it's moral it makes me think that those aren't his primary considerations maybe there have been negotiations where max has been like you'll get all this money and alex is like i need to be paid up front yeah i i'm gonna need a 10 stake on every look if we use one of those fucking referral programs we'd at least get a cent on everything you know maybe come yeah i look it's it's just promo code knowledge like it's shady shit and um you know by by the time this interview wraps up it feels like alex has come around on it but it's also telling his audience like hey this is bad news but i'm okay with weird but but but just separately moving away from that
Starting point is 01:10:04 and we'll put out the url you wanted to put out for folks that want to get ten dollars a free bitcoin which i think as long as you take it is that you know cheese on the mousetrap that's fine folks a little bit of a test you know it's kind of like going to a random whorehouse but no no no no no seriously i'm gonna stop being me what why are you allowing someone to sell your audience cheese on a mousetrap hey listen i i think what china is doing with bitcoin is horrific and it's terrible also hey you do what you do just so long as i don't get fucked up do it to my audience yeah i would like no interest in i would like a cut from all of the people you swindle with this yeah yeah so we end the 26 with that very very weird nonsense and we get to the 27th and by this point trump
Starting point is 01:10:49 has started to make some noise uh about uh his uh the twitter beef sure uh trump's gotten to a little fight with twitter obviously trump has come out there's a big story up at drudgereport.com it's also an informers.com trump threatens to close down social media platforms that silent conservatives has feud with twitter ramps up well it's not a feud they they're blocking the president telling people that mailing everyone in california or new york a mail-in ballot is going to be rife with fraud that's on record that you don't do that nobody does that there are five states in the united states that conduct all of their elections by mail we're talking colorado hawaii oregon washington and utah studies have been done about their elections and there's no indication of any
Starting point is 01:11:33 increased fraudulent behavior california nebraska and north dakota all allow counties to decide if they want to do mail-in ballots for their elections and there's a bunch of other places that allow varying degrees this entire talking point from the right wing is exclusively about trying to suppress the vote if there's a pandemic going on and people have to go to crowded buildings to vote you're going to convince at least a portion of them to stay home and this election in particular seems to be one where neither side is necessarily going to convince anyone that their candidate is right it's just about who has more folks come out in that environment if you're looking to win the best strategies to suppress voting there are ways we could handle doing this election safely
Starting point is 01:12:12 but they're going to have to include some of these remote voting strategies and possibly allowing voting over a week instead of one day to spread out the number of people at polling locations there's a number of ideas people have floated you can expect trump and his mouthpieces to resist all such measures or suggestions as being inherently fraudulent and please do know that their concerns aren't sincere at all no cbs news reported last week that white house press secretary kailey mckinney had uh you know she's been one of these people who's been out there attacking mail-in voting she herself voted by mail in every election since november 2008 it's not a fraudulent system when they use it but it is when you do yeah i i'm that's so i'm so
Starting point is 01:12:54 furious the media has failed us entirely on this you know because that should be this entire thing should literally be like republicans are lying to suppress the vote do not talk about voter fraud don't even mention voter fraud whatsoever just say that the republicans are lying to suppress the vote it should just be like air horn yeah that's it that's all you need to do even pretending to take them seriously is doing everyone such a huge disservice yeah yeah so it turns out trump is on the war path against these big tech right because we live in the single worst timeline that i can imagine yeah but there's also still palace intrigue trump's not surrounded by idiots yes he is and the word is avanka and jared who have nothing against them
Starting point is 01:13:41 personally are so far up google's ass excuse my french that well let's just say this their lips and their asses are touching so if that is what you believe then you have to believe that uh trump is fine with having them be high level advisors and have google up their ass or whatever look what's the like why are we why does he play these games this is so stupid hey my my god king is trump and i want him to have complete and total power as much as possible and i want him to take out google also his children are in a human centipede with google that's just how it works and i'm fine with that i look i think it's bad but i still want him to be god king god i hate this is a nonsensical uh approach yeah so we we now revisit this the
Starting point is 01:14:34 narrative about democrats sending covid patients to nursing homes sure and uh and over half the death nation why it was 48 now it's 51 of all the deaths are nursing homes and it's like dominoes one after the other think about the cold bloodedness of this the un comes up with it it's put out by the nih cdc yeah think about the cold bloodedness follow the un plan of the t republican states didn't and i mean this is this is like if i walked in to a nursing home with people with a deadly pneumonia and so we're going to put people next to you oh that's what they did the one group that it was killing that they knew not just to boost the numbers not just to make the money 13 000 49 000 to your math
Starting point is 01:15:25 that's a lot of money not really 50 plus thousand dollars that's not even why they did it that's just gravy you got gravy you got your chicken fried steak you got your peas you got your corn on the cog you mean you got your sad fictions there but name five more foods is the power alex is hungry wow so a couple things to remember in terms of nursing homes one thing is that they house a particularly vulnerable population so you would expect a number of cases and deaths to be higher there than in the general population a second thing is that because we all understand that dynamic there are much more stringent testing thresholds for people living in long-term care facilities than for the general population which would also
Starting point is 01:16:10 lead to an increase in statistics because it's really important to know if they are sick yeah for some comparison in massachusetts there's a 90 threshold that's required to be met for testing in these facilities whereas in the general public there's no requirement obviously i'm not trying to minimize the issue the fact that a lot of people are dying in these nursing homes is a horrible tragedy i only want to provide a little context for alex's bullshit also i'm not sure about his statistics about the ratio of deaths in nursing homes according to a may 26th release from the aarp approximately 16 000 people who are in nursing homes either residents or staff have died from covet 19 which isn't close to half the number of the united states i'm not
Starting point is 01:16:54 entirely sure yeah i've found a couple of things that were i i think one of the things that was getting twisted or getting lost is there are like some states where the number is much higher like the percentage of people who are in nursing homes is like you know 50 percent of the deaths in the state and then in new york it's like 13 percent sure and i think that what might be getting mistranslated is not waiting these numbers correctly i think i'm not entirely sure i don't want to say for sure but that aarp thing is pretty recent and they're in the business of knowing things about retirees seems like they're their main focus even yeah i'm not entirely sure yeah i don't even particularly care to get into the stupid conspiracy about democrat states
Starting point is 01:17:38 intentionally infecting people at nursing homes because honestly it's nuts and one of the more dangerous possible things alex could be advancing as a conspiracy theory right now there's no excuse for this kind of thing and he has absolutely no proof anything like this is happening outside of an executive order governor whitmer signed that he hasn't read his theory is that they put all these coven 19 cases into nursing homes so they could infect everyone and thus make a lot of money by scamming medicare to treat these new patients and then the stake is power or whatever this theory is stupid but it gets even stupider when you consider that on march 4th the centers for medicare and medicaid services released a memorandum they put into place additional regulations related to screening
Starting point is 01:18:18 and infection containment protocol at nursing homes which if not followed could result in disqualification from participation in medicare and medicare sure quite literally if people were behaving in the way alex is claiming they are there's a memo here that makes it clear that they would be ineligible to collect the money alex thinks is one of their main motivations if not all of the money from medicare and medicare oh for destroying their entire business yeah it would be and go to jail yeah yeah this is fun games for alex but they're real people who have lost loved ones out there and what he's doing is trying to take their grief and transform it into something marketable for him and i find that sort of behavior to be absolutely reprehensible
Starting point is 01:18:58 it's normal for alex but it is fucking villainous it's tough to look at and it's a powder cake because yeah these are very sensitive things yeah i mean with the amount of rage that is everywhere yeah it's just it's so irresponsible to suddenly just blame the all of the oh fucking yeah the people trying to help are now the people that are targets to all of these fuckers so there are a number of states that alex lists as these democrat states that are doing this you have primarily here michigan with the governor whitmer sure and then new york is also apparently and alex's crosshairs because it's something about their website so let's get into the documents just because i just spent 45 50 minutes on this let me just show you here's the daily mail new york
Starting point is 01:19:45 health department website quietly deletes controversial coma order that forced nursing homes to emit coronavirus patients led to 5 000 deaths now under federal and state law in new york and federally that's a crime to officially delete a document out of a database oh and you know alex jones always shows you the proof 1663 us code justice dot gov protection of government property protection of public records and the documents updated in 1974 with the freedom of information act also explaining it's a felony and that's what they just did oh but it's okay because you're the mafia don of new york and we're all so scared of you although i'm so scared of you so i really enjoy the uh turn of phrase you know alex always shows you the proof yeah let's get into the
Starting point is 01:20:33 documents yeah let's get in there so when he says let's get into the documents so that he pulls out a daily mail article that's the trip on man that's the track so this is just about a page being taken down on the website of the new york health department that's not the same thing as deleting a record got him alex is reading a statute that's completely unrelated to removing something from a website and this rings hollow for me considering how many things trumps administration has taken off websites and alex doesn't care about that at all oh no i mean you know people don't really need to worry about the epa and climate change and all that stuff in this daily mail article a quomo spokesperson said that this was just a situation where there was updated guidance that built upon the original
Starting point is 01:21:10 declaration so they replaced the original guidance the thing that alex is failing to understand is pretty much without exception all of these situations that he's talking about with these democrat governors and all this these orders are about making explicit that health centers could not discriminate about which patients they would or would not accept based on their covid status this isn't about creating risks within nursing homes it's about ensuring patients rights to care so there are even rules in place that if places quote cannot accept patients if they are unable to provide adequate care including staff screenings ppe and infection control measures so even in the original thing that was taken down from the website to be replaced with
Starting point is 01:21:53 proper updated guidance if these places aren't up to the task of housing and giving adequate care to patients who have tested positive then they that makes sense these patients because essentially the original order is hospitals are probably going to turn away poor people and then the other order is but if you can't do anything then you can't do anything and people who are in particularly in these long-term care facilities have specialized needs that may not be able to be helped at a normal hospital or just a regular run in the mill hospital there might be a particular reason why they need to be taken care of by specialists yeah and denying people health care based on their condition is america's way it's it's it's troubling it could lead to really negative
Starting point is 01:22:44 consequences for people who would to be refused care and so that's primarily what these things in new york and and michigan were about and alex is misrepresenting that twisting it around because of course it is yeah of course he is and and that's where he's getting into this like they sent these people in with the corona virus in order to infect these people and now he's getting to the point where he's straight up accusing all these doctors of premeditated murder and kind of insinuating that you should go show up at hospitals and yeah the people that took part in this that have medical degrees are all accomplices to premeditated murder so i just spent the whole first hour on that i'm having trouble getting off of it but i i i have had an instinct
Starting point is 01:23:32 to go physically to these places and i know you're all having that instinct as well that's a normal instinct when they're killing the most defenseless people you'd be i mean there's something wrong when you're not pissed off but i hate you knows that person love it they love the power to kill an unborn baby or to kill a baby after it's born or to kill an old person that power over this has shades of the uh the pizza gate stuff with like the insinuations of murdering children and this pizza place you should go check it out for yourself that kind of same vibe he doesn't learn lessons because no one teaches him lessons because nobody is held accountable when you're in the right wing well and particularly for him like there's apparently no rules no there aren't
Starting point is 01:24:17 any yeah so he does these things and like we've seen potential consequences we've seen the the patterns of behavior that are facilitated by people you know encouraging this yeah and let's hope people don't start showing up in hospitals thinking they're gonna free uh elderly patients who are being uh intentionally infected if we see a bullet fired at a hospital alex should be immediately removed from air oh like that's that's just guess what he probably won't be yeah i know but maybe there'll be a lawsuit so um in this next clip alex uh continues on this theme and he's sort of talking about how all of his enemies everybody throw zombies maybe you should kill them maybe not though maybe not uh you should probably kill them but maybe not hey maybe hey
Starting point is 01:25:03 who hey look kill them but don't at the most legal limit that i can get don't kill i'm inspiring you to do a thing but i'm not doing it hey that's why the allegory that you know came on the last hundred years or so of a zombie that was based on old african lore and an old european lore and every culture had the lore of a zombie it means a brain dead crazy person that's out of their mind that will eat flesh because psychos get no that's where you get the legends it doesn't what and that's what they are and what does the zombie want it wants brains why does it want brains because it doesn't have brains it's an allegory what you got brains you got a husband you got a wife you got a life you go to church you love god you're not perfect
Starting point is 01:25:58 but you believe in humanity and you got a connection to god and man these zombies see that and they don't like it and all they want to do is hold you down and bite big chunks out of you so i asked everybody again do you think you can make a deal with a zombie you think you can throw it some meat that's going to go away no you throw a zombie meat over your fence it's going to climb that fence because it goes where the meat came from you're thinking of possums and so placating and kissing all these people's butts has to end so i'm not going to do anything violent to governor quitmar or governor nissan or governor clumo or governor wolf i'm just going to sit here like a good cowardly american and watch them kill everybody in the nursing homes
Starting point is 01:26:51 so if you're not a good coward american i sit there and i take and i let them kill old people because i'm a coward no seriously folks it would turn them into martyrs so the last thing we want is a little hare on american psychos had to be harmed we need to destroy his name we need to expose what a monstrous sack of garbage he is and we need to expose all these monsters and we need them to be indicted if i were a dishonest actor i would have cut that after or right before he said uh no they would turn them into martyrs because you know that rest of that is very clearly insinuating that any good american would kill these governors yep um and i don't think that that part at the end really actually takes away my problem with uh his entire uh
Starting point is 01:27:41 thing i mean i think it's you can't you i mean that's just the same thing as i'm going to kill them politically yeah you you walk away from that with the exact same impression it's just like and there'd be some downsides to killing them but maybe you should or maybe not hey i don't know i'm a coward also he's really just describing the scarecrow but i guess like george romeros take on the scarecrow yeah there's some problems i i get really tired like zombies do have brains i get really tired of doing like alex jones literary analyses and like yeah lower histories but it's insane he's wrong about everything pretty much everything so here's the last clip from may 27th and it's the last clip because the third hour of the fucking show is him interviewing that libertarian
Starting point is 01:28:24 former satanist priest guy whose name i've already forgotten done yeah by click yeah don't give a shit yeah he's uh a real real disaster exciting cat exciting cat yeah he's like i you know i used to be uh i used to worship satan but then i found uh the libertarianism yeah he doesn't phrase it that way but it is very clear that that is what happened not that much of a difference it's quite annoying yeah so here's the last clip and it's just alex lying about twitter's fact check unsubstantiated claim twitter fact checks trump on mail and voting fraud yeah you've had mail and ballots around the world be totally fraud written but currently there's no proof that the 2020 election was stolen because it isn't happening for 159 days so technically it's
Starting point is 01:29:12 unsubstantiated it's like it's like saying there's a rattlesnake i saw crawling that whole don't stick your hand down it you're gonna get bit maybe it's not hungry maybe it's not scared maybe it doesn't bite you that was not uh their problem their problem was primarily twofold one is that there isn't evidence that mail and ballots have a higher propensity for fraud well that's an issue and the second is that what trump was doing was quite literally an explicit and overt act of election uh misinformation yeah uh because hey there are a number of states that currently primarily use mail and ballots what he's saying is that your system of elections is rife with fraud all i'm saying is what i hear yeah is peaceful transition of power in the end
Starting point is 01:30:02 he's attacking the electoral process of at least five states in the country well he's attacking the very concept of an electoral process you bet he would prefer not to have and so that's why twitter fact checks things not because a technicality of the 2020 election hasn't happened yet now that's ridiculous but that's the best alex can do because he sucks it's going to be so pathetic when they back down it's going to be real sad day yep so now we get to the 28th uh thursday's show and i thought uh that this was going to be a wild ride because of things that are happening in the world particularly in minneapolis and uh i was pretty shocked when we open the show i know that there's a lot of different political ideas and political systems out there
Starting point is 01:30:51 in the world i mean to see what i do is i actually study with the megacorporations and the big banks and the robber baron dynasties actually believe in and are up to so because you run propaganda forum leaders listen to this show it's the reason all the major intelligence agencies listen to the broadcast it's the reason that millions of people despite all the hurdles come here every day because i know what i'm talking about do you know what they're talking about do they know what they're talking about don't they and this is real and this is unfiltered now it has now officially come out not just in australia not just the uk but now the u.s has come out the state department and confirmed they knew they were doing bio weapons development of coronaviruses at that lab now
Starting point is 01:31:36 that's old news now it's confirmed mainstream you know what that means that means the deep states are losing their war against america so this is how he's starting the show yeah i have no idea what he's talking about i i tried to find with this this state department i have no idea what he's don't worry about i tried to find it on info wars i could find it no no idea no clue so i was i was baffled by this just make it up i was i was completely thrown i heard the air raid sirens i thought for sure he would be talking about the the situation that's unfolding and he's not was not immediately but he does get to it pretty quickly sure and what he does is something that i i think you know i'm getting to a point where i'm not really
Starting point is 01:32:28 surprised by anything he does and i kind of have a sense of how things are going to go i think there's probably a lot of people who figured he would blow up and freak out and my instinct told me that no that's not what he's going to do what he's going to do is give a patronizing call for unity yeah that is the yeah this is where alex goes in a time like this and it turns out i was correct i was praying hard this morning woke up at 4am and god just said be positive talk about the positive and talk about what unifies us because that's why they're pushing all this race war stuff all over the nose and using an example of a cop that didn't know what he's doing really sitting on a guy's neck for for fun and kills the poor guy and you
Starting point is 01:33:12 could see that humanity of somebody begging for air for eight minutes than dying and all of us feel for that man i don't care if he's black or white there's been similar cases of white cops sitting on top white guys heads while they beg and say i can't breathe it's it's terrible footage and the officer's an idiot he doesn't have this knee on the guy's head he has it on his carotid artery you block just one of those you kill somebody it's torturous by the way one is open he's getting air on this this this artery but the other side's not getting it that's why you talk about eight minutes of torture that guy like i can't breathe one side's locked up you're out the other side's getting you a blood man that is painful i'm told so yeah watching somebody torture to death if you
Starting point is 01:33:56 have any empathy you don't like it kind of like all the people dying in nursing homes with tubes down their lungs blowing their lungs up black white old young being killed or crazy covid patients that are black beaten up white patients and vice versa it's all going on because we're an evil fallen country not everybody but in general and so you can look at those images and then look at all the idiot images of people burning down targets and beating up old white ladies because they're white it's all stupid it's all ignorance and the people perish for lack of knowledge burning down targeting beating up an old white lady isn't going to bring that guy back we have to transcend this or the globalists are going to win they're coming after everybody
Starting point is 01:34:50 so there's a lot of problems with this but like i said this is about what i i would i have come come to expect from what about ism and sure yeah yeah so in this case the victim was a black man and the cop who killed him was a white man and thus instead of it being a brutal act of horrific violence it's a cop who doesn't know what he's doing just the very initial framing of this is indicative of that alex's angle on this is going to be to minimize the murder and focus on the public backlash to what was felt to be an inadequate response you know the firing what's been proven to be an inadequate response alex does not give a fuck about this story or george floyd it's just gotten too big for him to ignore i can say that pretty comfortably considering that this is the
Starting point is 01:35:31 first time any of the story has come up and this is the thursday episode floyd was killed on monday evening and the video of it would be released soon after alex could have easily brought this up on the show on tuesday if he was concerned about the cops actions but he was too busy minimizing the coronavirus and getting back to explicit islamophobia large protests took place on tuesday where police responded to protesters with percussion grenades and tear gas which is a very stark tactical difference from the way the police responded to arm militia weirdos invading state buildings to complain about starbucks being closed just a few weeks ago if alex cared about this story he could have covered the protests that took place on tuesday on his wednesday show but he was
Starting point is 01:36:09 too busy lying about democratic governors trying to intentionally infect nursing homes with coronavirus for profit and interviewing a satanic libertarian weirdo the protests were in response to the police department just firing the officers who were involved instead of charging them with murder and they were met with force on wednesday night there were more protests and again the police used tear gas and flash bangs to try and disperse the crowd there was property damage and a lot of chaos but it's hard to look at the ensuing events and not understand exactly how this happened and how it could have easily been completely averted this situation is still ongoing and i do not at the time that we're recording feel like i have enough information to fully grasp
Starting point is 01:36:49 a lot of the intricacies of things i've been trying to keep up as best i can but i feel like it's very difficult for me to fully understand the bit by bit pieces yeah and considering the fact that we're recording here on thursday uh it towards the evening and there's i don't know what's going on as we've been recording right now there's yeah so i feel i feel it's premature to get too into coverage of stuff outside of saying that alex is like he clearly doesn't care he doesn't care about this yeah i uh i like here's if this were reversed uh so to speak uh if if this was a white protest and they had done what they'd done alex would immediately be like this country was started because of property damage the tea party damaged property and that's the because when you try and
Starting point is 01:37:42 peacefully protest then they don't listen then you have to get louder and the only way to get louder and make them listen is with property damage so i don't know i don't i don't give a fuck what any of these right wing dum-dums have to say right i don't give a shit i don't know everything but these people should shut the fuck up i would agree with you there yeah just shut the fuck up yeah so what's going on here is that alex wants to take the initial inciting event a murder of a subdued man in police custody and say wow that's a shame while yelling his lungs off trying to scare his audience about scary black people looting he can pay lip service to the initial event only so far as it allows him to connect to his existing narratives about the nursing homes and about the
Starting point is 01:38:26 20 year old who beat up that elderly guy in one of the nursing homes even in the way alex connects these stories he's taking these this little concession that george floyd shouldn't have been killed and then following it up by pointing out that the 20 year old in that nursing home video is black he can't deal with the story without saying black people did some bad things too which tells you all you need to know about where he's coming from yeah so it's imperative for alex to find ways to refocus the story of the murder of a defenseless black man by the police into a story that's really about white victimhood and the way he's done that is to equivocate you know bring up instances of unrelated bad things that black people have done and to reframe stories you know
Starting point is 01:39:06 discuss the looting and the protests in such a way as to center white people's victimhood stories as the main thing to really worry about like the woman in the wheelchair yeah he's talking about yeah this is supremely unsurprising and it's exactly what you'd expect from someone like alex whose primary existence is wrapped up in being entirely about white identity issues aren't white people always under attack that's what we feel like and when so alex feels like and especially compared to his rhetoric from the 26th and 27th where he's like they're literally murdering people and then you look at the racial disparity in not just police violence but in the way that covid is is attacking people and there's it's hard not to think is there's a passive genocide going
Starting point is 01:39:49 on and then an active one and it's fucked so yeah well alex wants to center white victimhood of course so surprising you you make a point apologies that's fine yeah alex disagrees okay let me just do this we got about 50 of these clips but let's just play for tv and radio listeners four or five clips of the looting and the rioting and the racial attacks on white people in la and in minnesota so you know this is how he's starting out discussing this story is by pre-front loading the stories about attacks on whites and scary black people looting you know focusing on that angle of the story is a way to contextualize things and it's intentional it's what alex is doing the first two jobs he's achieved of his what he plans to do one is making like
Starting point is 01:40:45 he shouldn't have died he shouldn't have been killed but the cop didn't know what he was doing and the second is center everything around white panic and that that's how you cover a story like this if you're someone like alex yeah and if you're going to appeal to unity the protesters are multi-generational multi-racial multi-background everything yep and the people on the other side are white it does seem that way the end so another part of this that has to be done is alex has to make excuses for the officer and here he tries and i'm glad people have some humanity when they see somebody pinned down begging for their life dying and somebody callously ignorantly killing him because i guarantee you that cop didn't know he was killing him yes he did that dumbass doesn't
Starting point is 01:41:33 know about anatomy he's a murderer he got the guy's head turned to the side your knees right on his carotid artery bubba you think that cop wondered what's about to happen to him no he's a dumbass like so many other people they're dumb cops they're good cops they're dumb doctors there's good doctors there's bad evil people there's good people but that's not somebody being evil that's somebody being a bully dumbass you can see he's enjoying it sitting there like he's in charge and really all he's doing is murdering his whole life up along with george floyd's and here we see one of the other primary features of alex's white apocalypse won't someone think of his problems well what alex is doing
Starting point is 01:42:22 is shuffling blame alex is willing he's guaranteed that the cop had no idea that he was killing floyd but this is kind of hard to square with what alex said literally seconds before that if you go back to the beginning of that clip his exact words were quote and i'm glad people have some humanity when they see somebody pinned down begging for their life he said that right before saying that the cop didn't know he was killing him alex can watch the video and see a man begging for his life but somehow the cop on top of him and the others who were there couldn't see this and were just ignorant of what they were doing i think you can see how this doesn't come anywhere close to passing the smell test and alex isn't making sense so what alex does in situations
Starting point is 01:43:03 like this is he takes any real meaningful blame away from white aggressors against non-white people we saw this recently in the case of amad arbery where alex made it okay to shoot and kill arbery because the guys thought he was suspicious and after they chased him down he defended himself this is a way of softening the way in which the murder is discussed and alex is doing the same thing here the cop is only responsible for this to the boy where he didn't know what he was doing according to alex which is kind of a cowardly position the daily beast reported on may 28th about a man named ira tolls who was shot by the same cop who killed floyd back in 2008 there's a number of other incidents in this cop's history a generous reading of alex's positions is that
Starting point is 01:43:45 he's naive but i'm past the point of generosity he's calling this cop an idiot and that he had no idea what he was doing because there's too much evidence for alex to outright out deny the story or to make up his own narrative about it and it's gotten too big for him to ignore so this is the game that gets played yeah i am certain of this i yeah it's it's beyond it's just beyond what you can reasonably expect from a human being as he says with empathy yep so one of the things that he wants to do though is to take those very natural human reactions the empathy that you feel the concern the outrage um and funnel them to his views oh well i mean so what he does is he plays a clip of the video which we won't be listening to on the show um but
Starting point is 01:44:33 this is what he says immediately after you just watched him kill a man murder now i want you to take what you just saw and i want you to think about the 56 000 people that were black white old young but mainly old in hospitals being murdered by them bringing in covered 19 patients on purpose and then sticking a hose down their neck and blowing their lungs up to get money i mean this very sincerely alex only played the video to use it for his predetermined points he's hoping to take whatever rightful response you have to seeing the police kill a defenseless man and redirect that anger away from being focused on issues of police brutality or racial differences in policing and point it squarely at his narratives it's an attempt to basically take over the story by way
Starting point is 01:45:24 of minimizing it and co-opting it which is really shitty but that's the game he plays and it's pretty clear if you pay attention yeah so alex is seriously focused on doing this shifting the narrative thing or using this for his narratives and also insisting the cop didn't know what he was doing when i was listening to this clip i had some very visceral flashbacks to other things that we've covered on this episode i'll explain myself on the other side and they're gonna show us the footage that they cherry pick of that police officer committing manslaughter bare minimum murder manslaughter again is when you kill somebody but didn't intend to so this is murder and that dumb ass cop did not know he was killing him murdered him and i'm not defending him you know
Starting point is 01:46:14 his ignorance sounds like you're defending worse than knowing he was going to do it because then he should be punished more power comes great responsibility and we have to empathize for everybody that dies so i want you to now think about the 62 million babies we've killed the tens of millions that have been kept alive and harvested after they're born and i want you to think about them because they don't have voices to speak out so yeah be upset about neither is fucking floyd anymore that's good but you think about all those old people and all those babies then you ask where are the people pissing upset about that and where's the targeted action and i'm not calling
Starting point is 01:46:56 for targeted action but you go burn down target because a bad cop killed the black guy what about the people killing all the old folks that kill the babies they're the ones that think they're getting away with it all so like i said when i was listening to that clip i had a visceral flashback i felt sick and i realized that the way alex was talking about this current tragedy and trying to funnel it into narratives about abortion it was exactly what he did the day after the charleston shooting here's how alex opened his show on june 18th 2015 ladies and gentlemen thank you so much for joining us very tragic events have taken place in charleston on the east coast
Starting point is 01:47:40 a deranged classically mentally ill looking young man has bust into a church last night and basically sat there for an hour before shooting and killing execution style nine black people on a white on black racial attack and this is one of these events that i call a rosetta stone there are a lot of them that are but you can take this event and look at every angle of our problems through it and learn a lot number one i don't mean this sarcastically delin roof who's now in police custody who walked around and posted to facebook in places himself wearing you know south african apartheid attire and patches should have gone and gotten a job at plan parenthood are gone to medical school to
Starting point is 01:48:43 be an abortionist and then he could kill tens of thousands of black people in his career and be called a great member of society and that's what the smart racists do this is one of alex's big strategies for minimizing violence against non-white people if you ever find yourself caring about an unarmed minority being murdered step back and think about abortion which should help you to stop caring so much about that individual murder and will preclude you from ever considering the things we could do as a society to stop things like that from happening again you never and i mean never hear alex deploy this strategy after there's a crime against a white person can you imagine him responding to the cate steinley shooting by saying that it's
Starting point is 01:49:23 terrible and sad but consider all the abortions of course not he used that death for months to argue against the us allowing in any immigrants this is a technique that alex wants to look like it's an act of broadening the scope of the story it's like oh take this and consider but in reality what he's doing is he's trying to shift focus stories like these two are very threatening to alex so he can't really handle talking about them the best way to avoid that is to pay lip service to the very clear reality and then try to argue that the real story is abortion why get bogged down and bickering about one death when there are so many babies that math never gets deployed to distract from white death it is in reality his way of minimizing non-white death
Starting point is 01:50:07 and that's very clear if you pay attention yep so this was a bummer but yeah it's a real bummer one thing that i find pretty interesting is that alex doesn't stay on this story all that long and i think part of the reason is because he knows you just got a touch do this thing yeah and then move along yeah because dwelling on this for too long is not in his best interests oh no and it doesn't really serve his audience like what they are into yeah they don't care no i mean you can they already didn't care you don't need to convince them not to care yeah and so we we jump from here on to just talking more about gates and vaccines and stuff another gates vaccine bites the dust sick monkeys everywhere robert death kennedy jr chairman of
Starting point is 01:50:50 the children's health defense and it's in the news it was announced yesterday last week they shut down his testing company because they had fraud going on nope well now ladies and gentlemen they've had the monkeys getting sick and dying a 20 rate the rate so so so bill gates had said oh one in 10 000 will have an adverse reaction so we'll have 700 000 people get sick or die but 20 percent is not one out of 10 000 it's 20 percent so let's do the math and we have seven and a half billion people can we do the math on the calculator guys seven and a half billion people and 20 percent have an adverse reaction what's 20 percent of seven and a half billion people we all know the math don't we you clearly don't yeah 700 plus million people uh-huh
Starting point is 01:51:50 we all know the math wow it's even higher than that i bet so alex is lying about that story about the lab we've touched touched on that a bit over the course this he seems to like repeating that yeah there's a complete fabrication on his part is no connection with reality so as for this vaccine story this is just anti vex propaganda that's being put out by robert kennedy jr the headline of the story is quote another gates vaccine bites the dust which alex is interpreting as a story about a vaccine not working out but in reality the entire story is just misrepresenting the results of preliminary trials this kennedy article is about two different vaccines that are in the
Starting point is 01:52:26 process of development one is from maderna which is of course spanish for mother uh that's a callback i don't actually think that if you're just joining us please don't please don't do this i i gotta not do jokes like that so that one uh the article claims is going terribly but then the source they provide is a maderna press release titled quote maderna announces positive interim phase one data for its m rna vaccine against novel corona virus the other is a different vaccine which is being tested on macaques uh kennedy uh in his article writes quote all vaccinated macaques uh sickened after exposure to cobit 19 the link they provide is to the prepublication data and it goes to an article in the university of oxford's immunology
Starting point is 01:53:11 network website if you read it you'll find this line quote a sars cove to challenge 28 days post vaccination led to clinical symptoms in five out of six vaccinated animals but improved disease progression compared to non-vaccinated animals it seems to be saying that not all of the animals got sick which is what kennedy reported in his article i mean you round up he's either lying about this paper or he didn't even bother to read it and honestly i don't even give a shit which he's an asshole and he's not a source who takes seriously on this issue but alex is more than happy to blindly accept his narratives because they help attack vaccines man it's wild that the son of a guy who who's like transformed into a bit of a progressive hero and many people fantasy book
Starting point is 01:53:54 on creating a better america uh turned into such a shit bag yep that's a real bummer sure yeah so neither of these trials are the sort of thing where anyone is saying hey work's done it's just a step in the process and alex is intentionally misrepresenting that of course so the 20 number that alex seems to be citing um is i think he was saying that it's 20 of the monkeys got sick or something sure but that was about the moderna vaccine in kennedy's article and that appears to be a human trial so i don't know how that connects and also if you go to the link they provide to the moderna press release which is what this is supposed to be sourced from you don't see 20 percent or even a related fraction anywhere in the press release i honestly
Starting point is 01:54:37 have no idea where that number is coming from because it's not in the source nor is any indication that there were a high incidence of averse reactions in the press release that they link really seems to all just be made up anyway no one is suggesting giving anyone that vaccine or any vaccine with a 20 negative reaction rate if that number were actually reflected in the data that would be one thing and because i'm not a fucking idiot i understand that what would happen next is figuring out what went wrong and adjusting things before doing more trials this seems like nothing and it's honestly i found it offensively petty and and pointless like there's serious stuff going on right now why am i wasting my time reading
Starting point is 01:55:20 robert kennedy juniors nonsense about vaccine trials that appears to be made up now i think that almost any other issue then the in like what's going on in minneapolis is probably small potatoes in terms of importance relevance in terms of like what's going on in the world right now what i would hope alex would talk about so i could attack sure so i'm disappointed by talking about a dumb gates vaccine thing however i'm not disappointed by this next clip this is where he commits a felony well i think he's lying but if he's not he's in fucking serious trouble this is not about taking credit it's about taking review taking stock i uh knew that everybody was afraid to advise the president because if you did
Starting point is 01:56:18 all hell would break loose and it would come after you and your family but i thought hey why go half hog let's go full hog so i financed three major law firms separately from each other three of the biggest in dc paid them a lot of money to not just write up drafts of how the president could sign executive orders and another plan was a commission that's what one of the law firms came up with and and and it wasn't just the money to write these plans up including with advice from some of the top people in telecommunications folks very close i mean like in the chair you know i'm not bragging it's so easy to take action
Starting point is 01:57:08 when you do it so he's talking about trump's executive order about social media stuff yeah now let me walk you through this according to that last clip alex paid a number of law firms to draft up some plans for trump to use as the basis for this executive order against social media that uh you know you apparently signed today i don't believe any of it's real but if we pretend it is let's consider some ramifications of this admission that i don't think alex realizes he's saying if what he's saying is true alex jones is no longer a fake journalist he's no longer a broadcaster he is explicitly a lobbyist paying lawyers to argue for specific desired legislation is basically the definition of lobbying and guess what if alex did
Starting point is 01:57:50 do what he's saying and he didn't report the money he spent he could get arrested for that that is very illegal i like it assuming that he's not making this up he's admitting to a federal offense on air according to the lobby disclosure lobbying disclosure act of 1995 if you employ lobbyists and you're not a nonprofit you have to register with the secretary of state and the clerk of the house of representatives you don't need to register if you spend less than 11,500 dollars but alex said he spent a lot of money on this and it's the top three firms in dc so if he is not making shit up he spent way more than 11,5 yeah that would be a huge discount yeah huge discount yeah which the top three law firms in dc are not giving alex they're not law firms are not known
Starting point is 01:58:33 for giving alex discounts especially for lobbying to the fucking president that's cheap small potatoes people who are in the position alex is pretending he is in are required to fill out quarterly reports of their lobbying activity and failure to do so can lead to a fine of up to $200,000 and up to five years in prison there's an additional problem too that comes with this in terms of rules regarding lobbyists and that is that alex's show is no longer an independent platform if he's paying money to lobby trump if alex is paying law firms to lobby to trump then it could be interpreted that the positive coverage that alex gives trump is a form of donation in kind which could be considered a gift to trump that's sycophantic exuberance alex has for everything trump does could be
Starting point is 01:59:18 reconsidered as an illegal donation to try to sway the person you're paying to lobby toward in terms of enacting legislation or in this case an executive order which could make this a much bigger crime if someone were to investigate this and find that alex had actually done this which i still don't necessarily think he actually did but if he did this could be our al capone tax evasion situation i don't let's get him locked up i don't believe alex i don't believe it either i think he doesn't have the money to go to three top law firms he doesn't have the money to pay his own lawyers i i think of what this is is you know it's just his normal blowhard narcissist braggart self who he can't stand to not make himself the center of every story but if he's not lying he better
Starting point is 02:00:00 have reported that shit like i searched the the u.s. senate lobbying disclosure ag database and nothing came up for alex jones or alex zander jones or anyone associated with info wars or free speech systems but i can see that he could have some fake business name that he's hiding things under that's possible but point is alex better be lying or he better fucking hope that no one decides to investigate this because this could get you jammed up please please somebody do something to bad people just once in my life i would like to see something bad done to bad people it's such a random weird thing to be discussing to like for me to just like wait a second personally i kind of view what i think of when i hear that is that's somebody else's
Starting point is 02:00:48 story somebody else did that and alex is then like oh that sounds like a good story for me to be oh yeah that's entirely possible there was an article in the daily beast that i was reading that was talking about the roots of this and i can't remember the guy's name but they were saying that this was mostly cooked up by someone from the heritage foundation sure sure so it's possible that that's what alex is doing yeah that's possible but like i'm just saying if we take alex at his word you probably is admitting to lawyer up buddy call barns so anyway i thought this was interesting because as i was listening to it i was like that's fucking lobbying and i was like alex isn't gonna say that's lobbying but then in this next clip he does not say it's lobbying god damn it
Starting point is 02:01:27 because see i wasn't trying to lobby him to get some subsidy for nuclear submarines i was building or i wasn't trying to get subsidies for a golf course i wasn't trying to get subsidies for something i didn't want something from the president for me yes you did i wanted to be back on facebook and twitter take action for everybody so i get where alex is trying to come from but legally that doesn't matter at all you're still required to law uh report lobbying expenses even if you think they're selfless and his point is stupid like you even pointed out like he's trying to say that he wasn't trying to get a subsidy for himself he was fighting for everyone but that's bullshit being back on social media platforms like twitter facebook and youtube would be worth
Starting point is 02:02:04 millions in revenue to alex lobbying the president to try to force these companies to allow you on their platform represents a gigantic financial interest for alex yeah call it a subsidy or not it's the same thing kind of a big deal alex is claiming that he paid law firms a ton of money to lobby the president to get it to do something that would get him back on social media because being on social media is very profitable that's the the the long and short of that's the main deal but here's where things get murky the whole point of trump's executive order is trying to take away the legal protection that these platforms have regarding what things get posted for instance if you you know post some copyrighted material on youtube youtube isn't held responsible for that
Starting point is 02:02:44 that's the nature of the dynamic in terms of being a platform versus a publisher sure or you know like if alex jones agitates people about a satanic cabal eating children in a pizza place twitter isn't responsible for him posting those things if these platforms have to take responsibility for the things that individuals post they will not exist anymore it's the equivalent of them like breaking a toy that someone won't let them play with because it's you know the other person's toy and the last time they played together you punch them in the face you know that's the that's the mentality that they're operating from if it does work though trump will have done his only service to humanity destroying all of these destroying twitter facebook and youtube
Starting point is 02:03:22 internet quite frankly basically because if these rules are broadly interpreted that'll have effective basically disabling all manners of message boards or online community once a person running a place has to assume responsibility for everything anyone posts in their space it's no longer worth it to open spaces up for communication also a whole lot of people are really only still on social media because the individual companies aren't responsible for what they post if anything removing that protection will only result in a way way more strict content rules than we have now this will backfire fire like crazy but also it will never stand up in court no this is not going to do it it's done i really hate everybody the media has failed us on a level
Starting point is 02:04:03 that is incomprehensible but even even though legally this is questionable and probably won't work out it's a stupid short sighted authoritarian in nature move and it ultimately has nothing to do with alex's supposed lobby it no of course twitter put a fact check on trump's tweet and it was a very clear instance of electoral misinformation trump got mad about it so now he's using the apparatus of the state to retaliate against a private company which is constitutional and it's really something that libertarian ass alex libertarians love that super against i love it oh well yeah use the federal government to force a private business to do your bidding i don't understand what's wrong with that yeah probably nothing yeah so alex says these predictions
Starting point is 02:04:44 of these this do me vibe real do me he's talking about how they're gonna kill trump sure uh he actually has a specific prediction on a day that no but the method and it's okay it's one to write down because i don't think it's gonna come true but here are some of the predictions that he's got going all right so race war they're gonna have women come out and say trump raped him they're gonna try to kill the already did and they're gonna have i think china's gonna move on hong kong already are moving on it but i mean they're saying they may invade so you got that going on so these are like kind of the normal predictions alex has it's sort of what feels like preemptive damage control and just standard stuff yeah it's kind of meaningless blabber but that last part's
Starting point is 02:05:24 interesting alex says that china's gonna move in on hong kong which he is against and i wonder does he not know that the trump administration just certified that hong kong is no longer considered autonomous from china does alex not realize that mike Pompeo came out and just declared that this wednesday is alex really that unaware of the real world that he doesn't realize that his team has already signaled that they view hong kong as part of china most likely as a way to ratchet up tensions with china and put in sanctions like this is critically important to understand alex doesn't know anything no nothing nothing he doesn't bring that up no they're gonna but they're gonna move on him soon cool that's the i don't know what that means they're gonna move on that i don't
Starting point is 02:06:04 know what that means like a bitch okay yeah so in this next clip we get back to the uh some of alex's feelings about uh the uh killing of george floyd now one of the things that i wanted to bring up is first of all the way alex pivots the narratives uh and brings up like consider the abortions is something that is explicitly and specifically done on his show in order to minimize non-white victims of violence that is one thing that is very important and i think is uh essential that we highlight in terms of this coverage this second comes up in this clip the point is though the natural instinct when you see somebody begging for their life and they're killed for no reason is to go out as a military and say well what does that i see well it's uniforms or these are white people
Starting point is 02:06:54 that's at least the first step to understanding the new world order i'm endorsing anybody i think it's terrible but at least the first level of fighting back is there and if i can get that first level and point at the real enemy that's engineered all of this and if people politically stand up and say no and verbally stand up and say no and aggressively put the type of energy into politics in life that it takes to go burn down a building or attack the police well our problems will be over very very quickly so what's interesting about this is i think this is how alex thinks he acts i think all the time you think that's what you when he says we should go after them politically you think he thinks that no no no i think that alex like might believe that this is how he always
Starting point is 02:07:42 reacts to situations like this but it's only true when there's white on black crime that's what i'm saying when i mean i mean with that like he's like we need to kill these people and find them in their politically like that kind of thing he thinks is the same as being like if you guys put all of that revolutionary energy into just really engaging with the political process he thinks that's all the time somewhat what i mean more is that this response to hey you see someone do something really bad to an innocent civilian and what you do is you respond to these markers about them like they're white or they're a cop but what you need to do is focus see it's good that you get mad about that but you need to focus that right at the globalist sure sure sure sure alex is pretending that
Starting point is 02:08:28 those that is the way he behaves universally and it is not true no like i said this is only true of cases where there's white on black crime see it's okay for china to commit a genocide sure he absolutely doesn't encourage people to look past the race or position of the perpetrator when there's a situation with a white victim and a non-white person to point the finger at in those cases he's very much about seeing who did something and indicting an entire group when kate steinley died alex created an entire imagined storyline about an evil immigrant who saw her and her dad and then killed her because he thought that the dad was her boyfriend and he was jealous that he couldn't be with this beautiful white woman alex covered this story dishonestly and racistically
Starting point is 02:09:11 for months despite evidence coming out in trial that completely contradicted his made-up version of the story and at no point was the point to look past the identity of the person being blamed for the death and focus on the globalists when alex was covering the story he was doing so to agitate specifically against immigrants documented or not and he used the entirely fabricated version of it uh that his perverted mind dreamt up as a weapon against a vulnerable community it's important to understand this alex sounds so conciliatory and like he's above the fray when he's here on air saying that it's sad that floyd died but we need to not get bogged down and who did it and focus on the evil globalists that's part of alex's trick it's a misdirection and it's so obvious when you
Starting point is 02:09:54 consider how these stories get covered to refresh your memory here's a little clip of alex covering kate steinley's death making up details and editorializing like crazy on wednesday evening he shot the 31 year old woman at pier 14 once in her upper body how loving according to police he was found about a mile away and an hour later arrested cnn could not determine on friday if he has an attorney oh one will be provided she was loving smart beautiful cnn only reporting on this because he shot her either raped or stabbed her and her family even complained they'd call them racist just a mentally old person i mean she was smoking hot that's why he killed her just total jealousy total hatred saw happy family out his father told the san Francisco chronicle there
Starting point is 02:10:43 was one pop at his daughter fell to the ground video shows several people trying to help the young woman a racist helping a white person she just kept saying dad help me help me she fought for her life but died hey isn't it gonna be better when all the whites are dead i mean white people aren't really bad so you see the complete difference there is an absolute i don't know i want to come with a five dollar word for essential difference at quintessential sure go for it there isn't just a structural difference in the way these things are presented and make no mistake in that episode back when he was covering that death alex was singularly focused on the identity of the man he had decided was guilty complaining about how no headlines about the case brought up that he was
Starting point is 02:11:31 an undocumented immigrant when there was a single popping sound in the air we don't call this son of sam murders and top story anymore because son of sam he's a white guy he was jewish no no no this is an illegal god and so she fell to the ground he's never called the illegal alien by the way you notice the headline she fell to the ground well i mean according to the she mean she's white alex is not above the fray he's not above the right left paradigm he just pretends to be because that tricks idiots into thinking that he's coming from some place of a moderate mind and reasonable ideas which helps him indoctrinate them into extreme right wing racist ideology and more importantly his supplement lie this is part of the gigantic trick that alex plays
Starting point is 02:12:16 and when you think about like how much mileage he got out of people being like yeah man sure he hates obama but he hated bush too it's like okay what you're trying to imply is that he's somewhere in the middle and he calls out everybody yeah no he hated bush because bush wasn't far right enough yep that's and he hated obama because he was black right the end that kind of distills in like uh he alex really wants to in these situations like when there is a very obvious case of a white police officer killing an unarmed black man um and he can't deny it he can't make up a story about it can't do anything like that he has to rely on this hey we got to be above this she got to be above it don't fall for the globalist tricks yeah and then when the situation is the
Starting point is 02:13:06 opposite it's let's get all immigrants out of the country all of them they're just jealous of beautiful white people they're so illegal and they're amazing if you understand that difference it goes a long way towards understanding the way that alex builds his content and how he hides the true character of what he does what he believes and what he wants his audience to i mean i would assume he wants them to get from his show i i i guess that might be a little much for me to assume but i that's what it seems like i don't know on another level he's really just kind of bilking racists out of their money so there's there's that angle too i i mean i don't know yeah he's he's also spreading the worst fucking vitriol that will get people killed that i can
Starting point is 02:13:52 think of yeah i'm not i'm not sure i take a whole lot of solace in uh bilking racist out of money like as i like it's fine now i don't think that money is getting centralized i don't take any solace in that no so this was really bad like it was it's it's bad but it was really illuminating to go through this again um and really have the the hindsight of going through the kate steinley situation and going through the charleston shooting uh with alex's coverage to be able to compare these things to and i i think that when you do look at those sorts of situations you start to see things in a more robust way and uh it's it's tragic it's awful the real life situation and it's tragic and awful the way alex behaves yep now to make things into a farce
Starting point is 02:14:45 here's what alex does with the rest of the show all right let me plug for this hour then we'll come back and take your calls ahead of a special for the hour continue with calls you know the guy that did the uh take on my where my sunglasses at night well uh on the covet 19 excellent piece you got a new piece he'll be premiering here with us today as well so he's cheating on carpe donkdom and he's found a new meme guy uh there's a guy who did a cover of cori hearts i wear my sunglasses at night yeah um but about wearing a mask cool cool cool we're doing we're doing musical comedy now that's what we're doing we're doing shitty right wing weird owl great it only goes for half an hour because there is zero chemistry between
Starting point is 02:15:30 these two dudes alex doesn't get or i think he i think he might get that the dude is trying to do some bits but alex can't keep up with him no it's really bad so like i told you earlier before he gets to this stupid interview with his dumb dumb meme guy alex has a specific prediction about the attempt to kill trump yes and so mark this down and when this doesn't happen alex will pretend he never said it and i think yeah that's how they'll get trump isn't improvise explosive devices that have already been buried in hundreds of spots months ago with operatives inside construction crews on normal construction routes the secret service should uh think you probably thought of this route the president around any recent construction
Starting point is 02:16:23 sites the last six months i'm serious now i'm saying i decoy helicopters a lot of other things but i don't say this be dramatic folks this they're gonna try to kill trump okay seems a little dramatic decoy helicopters huh and we got a bunch of landmines at construction sites over the last couple months you've been bearing all these ids yeah why wouldn't we why wouldn't they just put one don't worry about it you got it because you know you don't want to look you got to have some flavor you know like of course if you put hundreds of ids around the only person who will be affected by those is trump everybody knows that i honestly think if you have the ability to coordinate multiple ids being buried at active construction sites it doesn't seem like you need to go through
Starting point is 02:17:07 this much trouble oh it's just not that hard this you know keep it simple stupid really does apply to assassinations as well i really feel like alex jones just like his brain just comes up with rub goldberg type schemes of course and maybe shouldn't have okay so what's going to happen is one of those decoy helicopters you're going to create just enough wind to start a chain reaction of dominoes that are going to gradually get bigger have you ever seen the ones that start real small and they get all the way up to the big ones you know what i think happened i think that when alex was stuck under that house that was getting fumigated sure the only thing he had down there was a game of mousetrap he just got real fucked up on those fumes it was an improvised entertainment
Starting point is 02:17:48 device at that point yeah oh so now we get to this meme dork sure and his name is media bear get the fuck out of and uh why is my life this why is my life this what a roller coaster this episode is i just want to die i just want to die yep so uh this is really interesting because there is no way i believe that alex wrote this intro sure this is not at all in his normal patois okay this is absolutely this guy is scripted he's like here's what you say to introduce me well rarely does an adaptation or a cover surpass the original but i have to say sunglasses at night song by canadian singer cori hart has been eclipsed by media bear our next guest is an example of dutiful preparation met with dutiful righteousness that is a dutiful that is a pr get the fuck out
Starting point is 02:18:42 alex is he almost feels like he has a gun to his head yeah i know i'm surprised he made it through dutiful also by the way not hard to outdo cori hart's i wear my sunglasses at night hey come on that's a classic everyone everyone sings that song very good on purpose not very good so they talk about this meme this video that he's got i don't really give a shit but they all alex keeps trying to get into like substance with him it's really sad well they're in the news saying gunshot wounds car racks uh mountain climbing accidents everything is covered good luck finding flu statistics for this year well they admit there's no flu deaths it's all been moved over to this column that's not true also you know what i'd like to correct media bear when he says good luck finding
Starting point is 02:19:32 flu statistics what he should be saying is i don't know how to find them there you go because that's really what he's expressing i found them they're very easy to find oh yeah where'd you find them uh just by looking for him i took a very short amount of time compared to other things i look at do that fair fucking idiot yeah i don't like i understand he's a troll like yeah you go to his youtube page and in his about it says shit poster right like i'm not going to take him too seriously right it's like come on man alex you should know better but whatever why aren't people answering questions that we totally know the answers to but i would have to google search the first come fuck yourself yeah media bear yeah enjoy enjoy a bear get the fuck out of my life you know
Starting point is 02:20:11 what time it is for you i'll give you a clue it's a fucking sugar ray albums title is 1459 15 minutes is over and it barely even started you made a fucking dumb right wing cori heart hover all right you're having too much scoff on right now i need i don't i don't know sugar ray with scott no i meant that in the larger sense of scoff on yeah i forgot that i had coined that phrase earlier so um media bears a bit of a jokester yeah sure so he's wearing a mask throughout the entire interview and alex starts wearing a mask to sort of play along so before this in the commercial break as they were going out to commercial media bear decided to start doing a bit where a contact tracer showed up at his house to tell him that he had come in contact with
Starting point is 02:21:01 someone who tested positive okay but alex didn't know what was going on so we got a set piece they rushed to break because we got a set piece oh man it was a disaster it didn't go well of course it's now they try to revisit it after the break well you know i'm glad that you mentioned that before the last break i had a contact tracer knock on my door and they said i saw that happen i'm a hero yeah they um it's i'm just busy being a hero right now just great content by the way you're doing your part alex you really are i'm gonna go to the thought crowd take this off real quick sorry i'm exposing everyone yeah emergency biological weapon release biological weapon release humanoid dna
Starting point is 02:21:54 in the like annals of giving improv partners like scene partners that you really want to have who will make you look good we're talking about you know like a paul hartman paul of tomkins we're talking about the glue guys we're talking about the guys who can really set them up for you to knock them down exactly alex jones on that list for sure i can't think of anybody who's taken like a stage one second city class and hasn't had that guy in their class like oh i got this voucher from my business because they said i wasn't a very good public speaker it's the i'm the funniest guy in the office it's the michael scott yeah kind of thing in the office yep yeah brutal who like i i i almost can't think of things that are like what is
Starting point is 02:22:42 like defining viscerally like the the exact feeling of no chemistry yeah it's that it's just like these two i feel like media bear doesn't like alex i feel like alex doesn't like him it's just trash there's hayden christensen and natalie portman and then there's that there's also a farce to it like i said in that like first of all but there's giant stuff going on that's pretty important and alex is spending a half hour talking to this dick about a meme and then he hangs up on him i think it probably ended early and he goes to calls and most of these calls are stupid but there is one and it's our last clip of the episode and this caller thinks the best thing trump can do is rehire flinn michael flinn he'll piss people off that will
Starting point is 02:23:33 piss people off that's true yeah and then alex's response to that is pretty telling and you know a lot of things that really get to him is like what's flinn who cares what's going on with the corrupt judge and all the other crap hire him back immediately there'd have been a role and give him a title no i agree hire flinn back and make him chief of staff and then just bring in the whole military exactly it's not the military's perfect but let me tell you trump brings in the military they're loyal to america they're going to do what they're told uh the lawyers out exactly get away all the little corrupt pieces of social trash that we don't need in that environment so alex and this caller just sort of commiserating about how their ideal situation is uh military
Starting point is 02:24:16 coup yep no big deal kicking all the bureaucrats out and replacing them with military people that will follow trump's order historically speaking that's worked out great alex loves the republic oh man this guy is the worst this guy is the fucking worst yeah this is the worst yep um real bummed out this is a real bummer yep so uh you know that's been the week i i really feel incomplete about this a little bit and i think the reason is because the circumstances are ongoing with uh with the situation of minneapolis and um like even as we're recording now things are probably happening that are relevant and by tomorrow alex will have his friday show that will be going over stuff and it'll feel very immediate but we can't get to it till monday
Starting point is 02:25:06 and so part of me was honestly considering holding off on this until monday but ultimately i i just thought like we gotta yeah you gotta take care of this yep less lest we get way behind and ignore a lot of alex's horrible bullshit horrible horrible bullshit this guy is i mean i don't i don't know i don't know what to say i don't know what to say sometimes but uh i guess tragedy uh plus time yeah oh man minus time yeah equals this equals that um i i would say you know the feeling that i have is very similar to feelings that i have had a number of times kind of like just an overwhelming sense of like it's amazing that we've let this get to this point i mean not just not just the whole world even though that does apply to that right but even
Starting point is 02:25:56 specifically with alex it's so amazing to me that like he hasn't just blown up already like there hasn't been the end of his career already right it's it's just it's it's fascinating well i think it's uh i mean the worst the worst thing i had a bit all the way back in 2015 uh about uh how how trump i i thought it was very funny and it turned out to be absolutely true but it was it was the idea of like it used to be one scandal would take you down but the trick is if you do a new one every day nobody can catch up to you and it seems like alex has that kind of thing going on for him too where it's like sure he committed a fucking felony two weeks ago but he's already on some new bullshit i don't have time to go back and deal with that yeah but a
Starting point is 02:26:47 lot of that stuff will uh we'll end up catching up with him you hope i i think yeah i don't know if he gets his military dictatorship who the fuck knows that's a good point yeah i might catch up to alex not so much trump i know i that's what i'm saying about alex too if trump gets his military dictatorship who knows what he'll catch up to maybe perhaps i probably should have mentioned that this this at the beginning of the episode but i forgot because of issues yeah but i think it would be uh important for us to point out this um there was a resolution in his bankruptcy case that we brought up and it turns out that the court ruled uh that alex was entitled to summary judgment in dismissing the involuntary bankruptcy and the reason for that given in this is that the
Starting point is 02:27:36 the amount that he owes his ex-wife which is about seven hundred eighty six thousand dollars according to what the claims are is less than the amount that is the value of the property that is backing that amount that he owes her okay so it's secured by this property okay that is worth more than that amount right and for that reason you can't force someone into involuntary bankruptcy because what's securing the debt could cover that sure sure so he's got to sell the house probably yeah and maybe that's why he's been talking about selling the house to begin with right i'm not entirely sure but from my reading of this and from what i can understand there isn't so much a contesting of the amount right it's just that he can't be forced into
Starting point is 02:28:23 involuntary bankruptcy for an amount that um his property that is backing it is greater than right so i want i want to point that out because we have brought that case up in the past and speculated about it a little bit yeah and so it would be wrong of us not to point that out that's why i wanted to bring it up at the beginning of the episode because i wanted to make but everybody listens to the episode probably listens to episodes i would think we'll see anyway we don't have any ads for other podcasts no that's true most people don't turn it off at that point fingers crossed yeah so jordan will be back uh but until then we have a website we do have a website it's knowledge fight dot com yep we're also on twitter we are on twitter it's at knowledge
Starting point is 02:28:59 underscore fight and i go to bed jordan we're also on facebook we are on facebook we have downloads i just rave reliever and uh if you can please donate to the uh minneapolis funds for bail and everything of the sort mm-hmm we'll be back but until then i'm neo i'm leo i'm dzx clark my go-to guy for medical advice is the red rocker sammy hagar andy in chansas you're on the air thanks for holding so alexa my first time caller i'm a huge fan i love your work i love you

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