Knowledge Fight - #441: June 3-4, 2020

Episode Date: June 5, 2020

Today, Dan and Jordan keep up with the current goings-on in the world of Alex Jones. In this installment, Alex interviews a couple doomed Congressional candidates, decides that Jared Kushner and Ivank...a Trump are Democrats and villains, and treads water with his anti-Antifa (pro-fa?) narratives.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys knowledge fight. I love you. Hey everybody. Welcome back knowledge. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes like sit around your novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Joe. Oh, indeed we are Dan Jordan. Jordan. Quick question for you. What's your bright spot today? Well, I don't know why but YouTube suggested a little video for me. Okay. And it was it was planned. Demic. We're all in trouble here. Guys have big news about vaccines. They're bad. No, it was a video of it. There's the there's these. It's kind of a genre I wasn't
Starting point is 00:01:27 aware of on YouTube and that is people who are experts in a certain field reviewing scenes from movies about those things. Okay. Okay. And so I watched one where it was like a crime scene investigator or detective talking about these scenes being like, well, this is why this would never happen. Right. That's fascinating. People who have just like a really specialized view being able to like that's accurate. This is bullshit. Right. Right. So I watched one that was an animal expert like a wildlife behavioral expert and I thought he was like really charming and like had some interesting things to say about animals and then he was stabbed through the heart by a no. Okay. It was great. And then I started just thinking
Starting point is 00:02:04 about how much I love animals. Like I love my cat and I decided that as part of celebrating this new apartment. Yes. Once I move in, I'm getting a second animal friend. No shit. I've made that decision man, but I don't know what it's going to be. It's going to be seltzer shaped like a dog. Maybe I don't like I don't hate dogs, but I'm not. I don't ever see myself as being someone who would have no. No, you're not a dog person. I'm not not a dog person and you're not a have a dog. Right. Right. There we go. I'm not a live with a dog. We have discussed this in the past. Yes. Although I could get used to it. I've lived with dogs in the past. Dogs are wonderful. Yeah. I was thinking maybe another cat, but that also seems
Starting point is 00:02:42 kind of like really. I don't know if Celine is a you know a team team builder. I think she could be. I think she could be. She could be. She warms up to people pretty quickly. I think she could do another cat. That's true. But then I was thinking like I mean ideally what I would want is some kind of like I would want a an orangutan, but you can't right. You can't get you can't get now. Let me tell you something. You're going to think maybe I should get a bird. Damn. No, no, no, no, no. Do not get a bird. I have a long standing rivalry with birds. No reason for a bird. They're too loud. They're evil. Many reasons not to have birds. Yeah. Although I would think about like maybe a chicken. See there you go. I knew
Starting point is 00:03:23 you were going to think it. I told you eventually you were going to have a good insight in the apartment. So I'm thinking about a hedgehog. I'm thinking about a chinchilla chinchilla would be. I'm thinking about a pair of sugar gliders love sugar gliders. That's cool. That is cute. Yeah. That is cute. Again will be. I think they're probably too expensive and I wouldn't have enough space for them. So I'm not entirely sure. I've got a there's a lot of stuff I got away, but I'm very excited. First of all, for the move and like, you know, getting some more space for some plants and then also for possibly another animal friend. Yeah, that's a bright spot. I'm telling you, you got one deficiency, maybe even two, which
Starting point is 00:04:03 is first off, sugar gliders need a lot of sucrose and you don't have that and they need space to glide and I don't know if you have enough space for but if I get some more plants going in the house, I have some trees they can call. Oh, they could glide all over the place. Exactly. I just put sugar everywhere. I know nothing about sugar. They're very cute. So yeah, I don't know. I have a lot of thoughts about animal. I like it. I like it. You should get in. I mean, it's all just trying to sublimate my honest desire to just live in the woods. Sure. Sure. Where I hang out and talk to deer right and whatever animals stumble through my shack. Right. Right. Yes. That's the what I'm trying to get the most out of while still
Starting point is 00:04:44 living in the city. I like it. I'll get a little tiny marsupial to sit in my pocket. That sounds great. That really does sound fun. That would be nice. For me, Dan, there's only one bright spot right now and that is that RTJ four dropped and it's fantastic. I haven't had a chance to listen to it yet. I've heard that you can download it and you can donate two of the best things that you can do right now. Listen to RTJ for and give money to people who need for those uninitiated. That's run the jewels. I knew up. You got to understand man. We got a broad audience. Some people are unaware of our DJ. I don't know. I don't know. Okay on. They told you are an RTJ one. All right. They told you again on RTRG date
Starting point is 00:05:25 RG. Oh man. Done. I'm out. This is why you call it run the Jewel. Pass little easier than RTJ over and over again. Fair enough. Fair. So Jordan today. We got an interesting episode to go over. I always say that and sometimes I'm wrong. Fair, fair. Today we're going to be talking about June 3rd and 4th 2020 of Dan. This is 2020. Congratulations. Whoa. What happened? Damn it. What happened there? I was trying to be nice. Oh wow. I was trying to take the bit in a new direction. Dan. It threw me for see. There you go. Lou. Yeah. So it's an interesting stretch of time. Kind of I guess not really. I'm feeling very frustrated with Alex in the present day a little bit. I don't think his narratives are going anywhere.
Starting point is 00:06:09 No. It feels just like a guy who's kind of mad. Basically all it is bootlickers are boring really at the end of the day. Yeah. Yeah. Now that we we've sort of entered into a time when things are really a lot of really exciting stuff going on in the real world. Right. And you would think that Alex would be able to rise to the occasion with interesting stuff and his own propaganda. You would hope it just doesn't really like you just talks to a couple of like dead end congressional candidates and a guy who probably not probably definitely doesn't believe the Holocaust is real or just like kind of a God Alex isn't you're just doing your show. Yeah. When you're limited by the dumbest man in history it really does kind of mess with your ability to
Starting point is 00:06:55 you know exercise imagination. Yeah. Yeah a little bit and when like you have to be the stupidest person in that cadre stupidest and most dangerous and when there's a mainstream conversation that have been going on about putting the military against protesters which is a great idea. You have a responsibility of normalizing that idea being the first against the barbed wire as Alex you need to you need to be the first building the barbed wire now you have to be the tip of the spear towards poking protesters. Yeah. Yeah. That's basically what Alex's responsibility is and that's kind of not. It's a real bummer. Well and it's a much harder line to walk because you have to also not be specific about violent threats or else you run the risk
Starting point is 00:07:39 of getting in trouble. Right. So I don't know. I just think he's kind of uninspired but we'll see there's some interesting stuff along the way nonetheless and we'll get down to business on that but before we do got to say thank you to some folks who have signed up and are sporting the show. Oh that's wonderful. So first Joe M. Thank you so much. You are now policy walk. I'm a policy walk. Joe. Thank you. Thanks. Susan P. Thank you so much. You are now policy walk. I'm a policy walk. Thank you Susan. Thank you. Suzy. Next Tom M. Thank you so much. You are now policy walk. I'm a policy walk. Thank you Tommy. We're doing a lot of that huh Jordan. You're trying to take my bet. Don't take my bet. I got to get that away from you. Next John B. Thank you so much. You're
Starting point is 00:08:19 now policy walk. I'm a policy walk. Thank you very much. Snoop John B. Next Chelsea. Thank you so much. You're now a policy walk. I'm a policy walk. Thank you very much. That was that's not even fair. That one already ends in E. Chelsea dagger. You can't say Chelsea. Next Aaron. Thank you so much. You're now a policy walk. I'm a policy walk. No. Aaron. Thank you so much. Then finally I'd like to say thank you to a couple people who donated on elevated level. So first Michael W. Thank you so much. You are now a technocrat. Fred with 2D's M. Last initial. Thank you so much. You are now a technocrat and Suzanne B. Thank you so much. You are now a technocrat. I'm a policy walk. Crikey mate. That's fantastic. Have yourself a brew. How's your 401K
Starting point is 00:09:00 doing bro? All right. We got to go full tilt buggy on this Watson. All right. Let's just get down to business. We ain't making that money off that heroin. Why are you pimp so good? My neck is freakishly large. I declare info war on you. Thank you so much, Michael. Thank you so much, Fred. And thank you so much, Suzanne. Thank you very much to all of you. Yes. If you're out there listening, you're thinking, Hey, I enjoy the show. I'd like to support these gents too. You can do that by going to our website, knowledge fight.com. Clicking the button that says support the show or you could take that generous impulse and directed towards some. There's all sorts of charitable initiatives that are going around right now. One will talk about a little bit later on
Starting point is 00:09:36 the the show. Our friend Chris read a really set up a fund on go fund me that is meant to provide some some monies for testing and for hospital bills that may come up from people who may get coronavirus fantastic from being out on the front lines and protesting. So there are things like that. I mean, I'm not saying you should necessarily go donate to that. Although it is an option. There's a there's a hundred things out there for whatever you find the most important to you personally and you feel like you can help the most. I say stay local. Local is going to be really important to build communities from the from the local up, you know, definitely get around to the people that you're around. Yeah. Yeah. Take take whatever your feeling is, you know, if you
Starting point is 00:10:22 if that's your priority, that's your priority and run with it. So, Jordan, I got I got really nothing on the seltzers and I know it sounds like I keep saying that, but I have just been trying to get this move taken care of. Yeah, and like it's really getting to a point now where I realize like I got a bunch of seltzers already that I got. I'm not moving these seltzers right, but I've drank one of them already, so it's not like a new thing to review. If you were arrested, you would be arrested with a tent intent to deal. Yes. Yeah, it's distribution levels. Yeah, so I have a lot of these and I've been drinking some of them and then I'm going to take the rest to the food bank, but I'm in a position where it's like I'm too distracted to even like try and
Starting point is 00:11:05 bother with a bunch of seltzers. Oh, is there other stuff going on? Yeah, there's a few other things. There's a lot of work and there's a lot of moving and so once this is all taken care of, we're still ahead of pace. We'll be fine and once we hit the ground running at the new place, there'll be nothing, but it's going to be a fucking seltzer palace. Me and my goddamn sugar glider could be sitting here on my shoulder just talking about seltzers. There's no sugar and seltzers. Some of them do. Okay, some of them do. What if you get a CBD one for that sugar glider dead? You don't know that. I don't know that. Well experiment. No, we won't know. We won't see. Yeah, not a whole lot to report, but soon enough soon enough. We'll have something for
Starting point is 00:11:44 you. That's not soon enough. My seltzer heads out there. So we start off the show and we get we're going to start on June 3rd and this is Alex being very disappointed that Mark Esper, the secretary of defense has come out and said, let's not do that insurrection act thing. You've had the Pentagon come out against the president because they think he can be defeated. They're all thinking about their next job and say, oh, no, we don't want the insurrection act. We don't want troops on the street. And Trump's telling police chiefs, get in there, stop these people. And they're like, nope, we're going to take a knee and encourage it. Everyone I know either has been robbed, physically attacked, I know someone very close it was. Most of the crew have had their
Starting point is 00:12:32 mailboxes and cars and houses broken into. I'm carrying a gun all the time now. And I've told listeners COVID-19 hysteria was a hoax. But the crime is off the charts and I have told my family and I told my son because he's already moved out at 17 and a half. Got a couple jobs. I said, you better not be out after eight or nine o'clock at night. If you live in a place like Austin, Texas, because it is dangerous as hell and you better be carrying a gun. Alex is really overstating a lot of this, probably to create a lot of fear in his audience. I can't imagine why a lot of panic that he wants them to feel of the other of these protests in particular. Yeah, I mean like and also like his son was out after eight
Starting point is 00:13:27 or nine and there was video of him beating up a guy at a seven eleven that Alex celebrated the other day. So I don't I don't know. It doesn't get much more. You can't tell me what to do dad than beating a man to death at a seven eleven and beat him to death just to be clear. Yeah, I don't know. I think Alex is overstating a lot of this stuff because that's in his best interest to create this sense of fear generalized and overwhelming sense of fear in the audience. I even very much doubt that he's carrying a gun with him all the time. I think he's full of shit on that too. I'm not entirely sure. I mean I know that up to a certain point. I think it was in twenty fifteen at least. He didn't even have a concealed care. Yeah. Yeah. He admitted he didn't
Starting point is 00:14:06 have a carry permit. So I don't know. He probably has gotten one since then, but he may not. We'll see. Yeah. You know, you can't open carry a Barrett fifty cow. Never underestimate Alex's cowardice. True. Yeah. So you've got these protests that are going on around the country that are, you know, motivated by feelings of outrage at police murdering on our black people. I thought they were outside agitators from all the other fifty states. No, we're trading them between states. No, that I mean some people will make that argument. It's like a fantasy draft. You know, we're we're sending our good ones from New York to Chicago. Chicago sends them to New York. They're all outside agitators game of Red Rover between states or something.
Starting point is 00:14:52 No, people are people are upset about the police murdering people and then on a top of that not having consequences and such. That's an issue beyond that. I think things have kept going in a large part because some of these protests have been met with police brutality and that certainly is a vicious cycle that can continue and certainly upset people. Yeah. If it were me, I would say that if you wanted to end a protest about police brutality, one of the worst ways to go about it would be with police brutality. It tends to make the protesters argument become a lot more clear and it's hard to disagree with right. It should be, but that's why you just ignore. Oh, that's a good idea. Yeah. So you've got these protests going on and it just so happens
Starting point is 00:15:39 that the other day there was a situation that gave Alex the exact thing that he needed in order to attempt to invalidate a lot of this stuff. But of course, you'll never hear it on the national news. You'll never see it on the big news aggregating sites because they don't count. Like retired police captain David Dorn running security at a major store and they walked up and shot him dead in the chest. Oh, by the way, he's black, but you'll never hear about him because he's a cop and the video is very sad, very powerful. We're going to play it here. You can see the light go out of his eyes. It's a pool of blood. It's disgusting. Alex playing this video repeatedly throughout the show. Incredible. Yeah. It's
Starting point is 00:16:25 terrible. And it's sad that this guy got shot by these looters. That is a tragedy. Yeah. The issue is we're all mad at the same tragedy of people being murdered. Right. That's an issue. Right. I don't want anybody murdered. Right. And beyond that, this is not so much applicable to the larger conversation of what's what's going on. It's sad. And I absolutely don't have any feelings of support for anybody who would do something like this. Of course, not. It's never more fine for somebody to be murdered. Right. It's not fine. And it's definitely not more fine for somebody else to be murdered. I've seen plenty of coverage about this. I've seen a lot of people bring this up, whether it be on Twitter or I've seen a few, at least a few
Starting point is 00:17:10 news stories about this this guy, David Dorn. And nobody's ignoring it. No. And I don't think that anybody who believes and supports what's going on in the protests, I don't think anybody is necessarily afraid of looking at this and saying, Yeah, those those people who were looting that pawn shop are fucking awful. That is an awful thing to do. Yeah. No, that is not in line with what what we support and what this is what this is going for. Exactly. But I do think that Alex coincidentally can't do the reverse. He can't look at the instances of police brutality against peaceful protesters and discuss that. No, he treats that as like as if it's not happening at all, just ignore it. Right. He treats the other cases of the police killing people, which have happened
Starting point is 00:17:58 since the time and memorial and since the protests have even started. That was David McGatney, the barbecue restaurant tour. There there have been other cases since and and like he can't talk about those. So he ignores those. Whereas I don't think that people are ignoring Mr. Dorn in the same way that Alex is pretending that they are. Of course. And Alex is taking this video and it's just like it's just disgusting to see him exploit this the way he does. He plays it repeatedly and is like, God, no one cares about this guy. It's just it's it's it's shit. It's just fucked up. Yeah, it's shit work. So Alex has a guest coming on his show and he has the credentials of the normal Alex Jones guest and that is that a video of him got
Starting point is 00:18:43 popular. Great. That's all you need. It's all you need. It's a video of him yelling at a city council. Great. And right now everybody is sitting at home, scared to death of a virus and now you've got people running through the streets, burning air and you know what? I said I wasn't done yet. Sir, this is a problem that can be fixed if you will take leadership. Thank you your time is up. Stop hiding behind things like is it possible like he was resisting that's what they said was the reason for his murder. Resisting your time is up. You're done. It's been three minutes. This is please, please, please, a little more guys, a little more guys. Sir, he's going to be joining us at the bottom of the hour. Well,
Starting point is 00:19:37 familiar with the great work he does and the great work as well for you as Senate now great. He's running for you. Of course he is. He's one of these doom. Real, real, real quick loop. Real, real, he later comes on is like, yeah, I'm running against Mark Warner and I just want to debate him and make him so mad. All right. Seems like your motivations are in the right place. Nothing is real. Mr. Well, my time is up. Okay. Well, well, no, you would not respect that clearly. He doesn't respect even that video that was going around. I didn't look into it enough to know if it was real or not, but the guy who was yelling at the zoom call and is like, suck my dick and choke on it. Yeah, yeah, fantastic. At least even that he yielded his
Starting point is 00:20:18 time. Well, of course he got his. He got his said what he needed to say as they say in the wrestling world. He got his shit in and then got out. Yeah, didn't overstay as well. But the dude doesn't know what he's doing. You got to go away to come back. This guy has to keep filibustering. It's just fucking. It's a sign of weakness quite frankly. Yeah, you get to get just to do your shit. It's a little too close to Pat Noswald yelling at Leslie. Nope. That's a that's a problem and not nearly as amusing. No. So Alex is going to interview this guy whose name is Tom speciale because this video of him is making the rounds and right wing circles. It's just him yelling at a city council meeting about how the communists
Starting point is 00:20:54 are taking over. It's all the Democrats fall. There's no virus and George Floyd shouldn't have resisted arrest. Well, that's not. That's where we fall apart. No speciale is one of these fringe ass candidates who's running for office who's probably he thinks that info wars is going to help him win the primary and this strategy up till this point has not been a good one. I think it's a zero percent batting average in the last proof. No. No. No. Are you sure? I think that people like Deanna Lorraine. Yeah, that was her name. I almost forgot her name. I almost already forgot her name. You're the only person who would know. Yeah. She lost her primary when she was going to unseat Nancy Pelosi. She almost got her right. Really close. It was
Starting point is 00:21:38 really down to the wire. Was that? No. Is that Dianne Feinstein? I can't even remember. Whatever it takes to get Dianne Feinstein out that insider trading doesn't work. Enrique Tario dropped out of his his his race. No, that one was shameful. I can't I can't think of anybody who's been on info wars who has had a successful run in a primary Trump. Well, fine. We got one. We got one right. It's kind of a big one. It's a big notch on your bed though. Yeah, it's a big notch. Well, he hasn't come back. No, that's true. That's true. We got some, you know, this guy is I don't think he's going to win anyway. Alex is going to get to that interview in a little bit, but he has to get really extreme and explain to his audience that
Starting point is 00:22:25 we're basically out of time. There's no time left. I want to just say this here very crisply and very clearly for everybody. I wish we had more time. We told you this was all coming. We don't have more time. They're going to go for broke. The globalists aren't going to stop. They're just softening Trump up right now to killing. And I'm seeing everybody back away from Trump and DC and fear. They're getting ready to make the main move. And I'm just going to say this to the people running that operation. And we know they are some of those retired generals, Hayden Clapper, Obama and others. You're never going to get away with this. So this is why like it's clips like this that really revealed to me how
Starting point is 00:23:06 full of shit Alex is and kind of make me realize that like this is a game. Yeah. If you'd been preparing for this for 20 years and this was the globalists big move and the Patriots are running out of time, why wouldn't he be saying it's time to start shooting? Yeah, there's nothing left. That's like if this move doesn't like of the Patriots doesn't work game is over for them, right? Yeah. The continuing of doing a show like Alex does in the middle of what's presumably the big one reveals that it's just another publicity stunt for him because he's holding back in the same way he always does a fully committed quote on quote Patriot who was looking to save the Republic wouldn't do that if time was running out. This is all just an act for Alex and it's
Starting point is 00:23:49 pretty gross. Do you know that you can see that in the way that he behaves? Yeah. Do you know what a Patriot would do? Be out in the streets? Perhaps. Yeah. Yeah. So in this next clip the party's over baby. Sure. It's over. Sure. No more party. He says this a couple times. There's a few times. I think he might be trying to brand a new shirt. Are you sure? The party's over. I prefer an Irish goodbye. The party's over. You have to decide whether you want to be free or slave. You gotta decide which side you're on. I'm Alex Jones, your host on the June 3rd, Wednesday transmission of the 152 days after the election. They don't have any intent to let President Trump get up to that election point. They are going to discredit him. They're going to say that he
Starting point is 00:24:30 can't rule. They're going to say that he's caused the unrest that they've triggered. They're going to call for his resignation or removal under the 25th amendment. And that is coming next. You can set your watch by it. This is again why this is such a game. He's been saying they're right about to do the 25th amendment for years now. This is just so bland. It's so boring. I just want to bring back polonium poisoning. Bring back a poisoning. Bring back something good. Yeah. Give me. Give me slow acting sedative in his Diet Coke. Give me some Yukio Mishma style. They're going to break into the White House, pull them out to the fucking ledge and see if everybody wants to chop his head off like real quick stuff or commit sepico dive deep into the they've put
Starting point is 00:25:17 a hundred bombs at construction sites. Now that's great. Keep going with that. Why are you going back to this stupid 25th amendment stuff? You've covered this territory over and over and over again. You've been wrong every time. Yeah. If the 25th, we're going to be invoked. We're way past that. I would think so. We're way past that. Yeah. So Alex gets to talking and I think he's a little bit pissed off that Trump has come out and said that Antifa should be a terrorist organization. Oh man. And it turns out this is kind of meaningless shit talk and actually there's some arrests of right wing folks right who plan some terrorist stuff. Yeah. Alex doesn't like this. It's all over the news that they're saying, oh, right wingers are posing as Antifa.
Starting point is 00:26:01 Right wingers are posing as looters. There's no looters. There's no Antifa. Even though they're all out promoting it and pushing. Yeah. We all meet at the Eagles Lodge. The public is so dumbed down that when San Antonio news and national news and all of it said that info wars burned down a homeless camp, 100% not true. My son got a whole bunch of calls saying he did it. People he knows said you did it. That's the hysteria of the mom psychology. And now that's the new thing I've done. So with Alex's son, this is an easy misunderstanding for people to make because there was these erroneous tweets flying around about Alex and info starting that fire around the same time that Alex himself was promoting
Starting point is 00:26:56 a video of his son beating up a guy at a seven eleven. So it's kind of an easy mistake for someone to make. I don't know. This is your fault, Alex. That confusion is your fault. Oh yeah. That's you earned that confusion. Yeah. Yeah. But again, this is a good demonstration of why you never want to give Alex these sorts of abilities to bring these things up as if they are proof that everyone lies about because he will do it on every single occasion. Of course. So it's hard to say exactly to what extent the protests have been infiltrated by bad actors from the white nationalist accelerationist community or these Boogaloo types, but it's definitely not not at all. But I don't know how you could quantify it or to what extent
Starting point is 00:27:43 you would. Yeah. I just don't know how you'd be able to. Yeah. It's it's it seems like there's there's there's a likelihood of some it is. It is a off tossed around concept. People are every time I see a protest. There's at least 20. Sure. Regular tweets of like the KKK has been spotted there. Avoid that place. Yeah. But for the most part, as far as confirmed reports, it's happened. But to the point where it's really, I don't know what it means. Yeah. And and yeah, I think there's a normal human impulse. I mean, you saw it with Alex's CPAC speech with Enrique Tario and he was giving a speech about like, Hey, there's infiltrators in this room everywhere. Everybody does that. Yeah. And so yeah, I do. I do think and I know there is at least one example.
Starting point is 00:28:34 I can point to clear his day, but it would be irresponsible for me to definitively say if one act of property damage or another is being done by one group or another. So I'm not even going to try and attempt to thread that needle. I don't know what's going on. But what I can do is prove Alex wrong about his assertion that there are no right wing people infiltrating and pretending to be Antifa. And I can do that based on Alex's own reporting. Great. On May 31st, Alex reported on a particularly menacing statement that was said to be coming from Antifa. And meanwhile, Antifa has put out on their Twitter. Notice they have a Twitter. I don't have a Twitter, but they have a Twitter. Tonight's the night comrades. Tonight we say F
Starting point is 00:29:18 the city and we move into the residential areas, the white hoods, total race based and think about that. And we take what's ours. When we discussed this, our response was that it was pretty obviously that was a fake Twitter account. Yeah. And guess what? Since then, that's been determined by Twitter that that account Antifa underscore US was actually run by the white nationalist group, the American identity movement, formerly known as identity Europa. Who could have guessed that? Right? Pretty, very simple. There were some odds. They might as well have had a neon sign flashing. We're lying to you. Yeah. This is a very common right wing extremist strategy to create fake Antifa accounts on social media to disseminate messages that people will pass on and assume are
Starting point is 00:30:04 real, which make left wing protest look bad. They do this a lot because it's super effective. In the past days, there has been so much conversation and hand wringing among right wing pundits about the fear of Antifa showing up to your white man house and killing you and your family. It's a tool of de legitimization whereby the right wing folk hope to demonize the larger point of the protest by ascribing words to an imaginary organization that'll scare off the middle of the road folks. It's more or less an attempt to pull support in their direction from the center by scaring it away from the other side. Yeah. Alex played right into this game and actually use an active participant and enabling a white nationalist group to infiltrate the protests
Starting point is 00:30:43 and Antifa for him to say it's not happening is ridiculous. But as we also see in that clip, the downside of the accusation that he burned the mattress. Now that he has that in his back pocket as an example of how the media lies, he can deploy it in instances like this. You can't possibly believe that their right wing extremists infiltrating left leaning protests. Sure, the media says that there are, but they said I burned that mattress so nothing is real. That's the danger of this. You can you can just see it. Yep. So now we get to Thomas speciale. Anyway, he says that he says that info wars is great, which might hurt him in the campaign because of him. You know info wars because of the fact that people are out there. You're providing
Starting point is 00:31:25 people with with with with raw information. A lot of times that they can go look up themselves and find out what's true and what isn't. Okay, you're challenging them. Essentially, what I believe info wars for me, what info wars does is it challenges the, the milk toast narratives that a lot of times we hear from, you know, the, the, the, the so-called conservatives, the political machine Republicans even. I love the mentalities like this because that's what this show is. Yeah. Like Alex provides raw intelligence that people can look up. I basically heard that and said, okay, I will. Yeah. And guess what? He does a bad job. He does a bad job, but I will say that he's right. I mean, Tom's right there when he says that like what they do
Starting point is 00:32:11 is they challenge these narratives. I just would argue that they do it poorly and they generally do so by lying and write shit up right. There is. So I mean, yes, absolutely. You're there are many ways to challenge something. I also want Alex to spell milk toast. Is the other thing that was going through my mind. I think you think he's going to go with straight up milk toast probably. Yeah. I'm not going to like those cues. No. So in this next clip, Tom gives me every reason to not like him by saying that if you like a certain person, you'll like him, which means I won't like him. The way I've tried to sum my campaign up is if you like Jim Jordan, put Tom speciality in the Senate. Okay. We're going to have Jim Jordan,
Starting point is 00:32:52 Tom speciality and Donald Trump in 2020. And when we have that, I guarantee you, I will go out and crush the swamp monsters with our president. Oh, sure you will. So yeah, I was at the father, son and the holy ghost right there. Is that what we're describing? Perhaps. Yeah. You got a guy who yells at city council meetings, right? Corrupt lunatic real estate magnet. Of course. And the guy who turns a blind eye to a college coach or a doctor abusing tons of students. Doesn't get closer to Christianity. What a trinity. Yeah. What a trinity to crush the swamp monsters. I'm out. Yeah. Yeah. So Alex has this guy on and it's clearly some kind of a situation where like Alex saw this video and was like, Oh man,
Starting point is 00:33:40 that's getting some attention. I got to get this guy on. Sure. And then simultaneously, this guy is running for Congress and he's like, I got to boost my profile somehow, set myself away from the pack of these losers right in the Republican primary, right? And he thinks that Alex is a good way to do that. Yeah. So I don't give a shit. I don't want to. He's boring. Find your way on to Sinclair, buddy. That'll give you a lot better probably. Yeah. So Alex has another person coming up on the show here on the third. He's doing a is it Jim Jordan because I'm going to breathe out. Okay. He does have it's a primary bonanza. He's going through here. Okay. So he has another person who's running. We know this person. Okay. Laura Loomer
Starting point is 00:34:20 for Congress is a tough cookie. She's been through a lot of persecution, a lot of censorship, but she's fighting back and in a lot of polls, she's in the lead where she's running there in Florida, but she's talking about anti-fun, how they're terrorists, what they've done to her and how she does support the president designated them as a terrorist organization, but she does. So Laura Loomer is running for office in the 21st district in Florida. And I'm going to say this right now. How's she doing? She doesn't have a chance in hell. Oh, come on. There's a the October surprise, Dan. The Republican primaries on August 18th. And even though she is raising a good bit of money for her campaign, she's an embarrassing disaster. And I find it very hard to imagine
Starting point is 00:34:58 that any significant number of people will vote for her. I think Roger Stone is going to steal her computers at the end of the day. One of the main problems for her campaign is that she's already made a bunch of really good attack ads on herself. Like every time she's been on info wars or the time she handcuffed herself to the door of Twitter, anyone running against her basically has a freebie for an election. It's really not hard to yeah. Loomer is one of the at least six candidates in the Republican primary, the winner of which will go up against Louise Frankel, who has a long history in government. Frankel was in the Florida house from 1986 to 1992, then again from 1994 to 2002. She was elected mayor of West Palm Beach in 2003 and served there
Starting point is 00:35:38 until 2011, at which point she ran for the US house where she has been since 2013. Frankel has a strong track record of electoral competence, whereas Loomer just really has a resume full of weak shit and self defeating publicity stunts mixed in with disgraceful Islamophobia. It's time for a change. It's time to bring updated messaging to the children. Lock yourself inexplicably to a door to one door to one single door. Well, you got to be polite. Very lame. And let's not forget Laura Loomer was the co-star with Jacob Wall and that stupid fake documentary where they went around trying to prove that Ilhan Omar was married to her brother. Like she is a disaster came real close disaster of a candidate. They almost proved that too.
Starting point is 00:36:24 Also, in the 2016 election, this district went for Hillary by a margin of 59% to 39%. Laura Loomer is doing this all for attention. And if I had to guess to try and get back on Twitter, yeah, and good luck. Yeah, yeah, yeah, good. Give me a exemption for being a candidate for some bullshit. Not going to take this very seriously. Now is going to play later. Whenever she gets elected, I look like a real dick. Well, by then we're going to be burnt alive. If she gets elected, you and I are already dead. Yeah. When she gets on the show, she points out that this district is where Mar-a-Lago is. And that's where Trump votes because he votes by mail because he committed motor veil mail voter fraud according to him. Yeah. So she's like, when I get elected,
Starting point is 00:37:09 Trump will be one of my constituents. I will. I will be representing the president. I am a big fan of delusions of grand chair. Yeah, that's great. Great. So Alex in the snakes clip discusses how like he doesn't want a police state. He also wants to police. Well, of course, it's fun. It's kind of on the fence. Everybody likes one. What's a police state in order to avoid a police state? Well, he's got to avoid them building that fucking road, Dan. True. This is insurrection funded by foreign governments to overthrow the country. I'm Mr. Anti-Police State. I'm anti illegal surveillance. I'm anti cops going to homeschoolers houses. I want the borders controlled though. When there's insurrection, I want it stopped. All that coming up too.
Starting point is 00:37:57 In fact, I'll hit that next segment. But this next thing boils my blood will hit it here in a moment. Let me just throw this out. Times are so crazy. I decided to extend the big sale we've had. And sure. And it's 60% off across the board. Oh, that's not good. Many other products. That's not good. Good sale. I decided to take a loss on everything. I got to get out. Yeah, I mean, this is just this is just like we can sell stuff now. Yeah, we probably can't in three weeks. No, people will not be as scared. We got some juice. Yeah, let's use it. Yep. So good, good, good stuff, Alex. I'm proud of you. Yep. So yeah, I think that's shit, but whatever. So I also love it whenever Alex says that he's Mr. Anti-Police State. Just I love that
Starting point is 00:38:50 is how is I just think of who's a who's Mr. Steal your girl? Who's that guy? It wasn't that I like it. So in this next clip, Alex talks about how Rosenstein Rod Rosenstein was testifying and Ted Cruz was really taking him to the wood shed. Has Ted Cruz ever done anything? He grew a beard and tweeted some porno. Oh, here's Ted Cruz, Senator Cruz, going after the Howdy Doody doll, the ventriloquist doll that is Rosenstein. Let me ask you, did it strike you as strange and my time has expired? So I'm going to leave this as the last question. Did it strike you as strange that the FBI and the Department of Justice was going after a three star general, the incoming National Security Advisor to the President,
Starting point is 00:39:45 who they already said they were going to dismiss the case against and their predicate for all of this was is the Logan Act, which you know perfectly well is an unconstitutional law that has never been no one has ever been prosecuted under in the history of the Department of Justice. And should have been laughed out of the room in any responsible Department of Justice. If someone had suggested we're going to go after the incoming National Security Advisor for violating the Logan Act, which says an American citizen can't talk to a foreign leader. I guarantee you today, right now, John Kerry is violating the Logan Act. Now, fortunately, it's an unconstitutional law. So who cares? Why did you not laugh this out of the room?
Starting point is 00:40:27 And why didn't you get to answers on this? Why did you let this pile of partisan lies consume the country for two years? I appreciate because he's a criminal. Because these guys get away with which person in this case. Well, you see here a tactic and this is a really regular thing for propagandists like Alex. And you can see through this prism how their lies are facilitated by people like Ted Cruz within the government. Ted Cruz wasn't asking Rod Rosenstein a serious question on that clip. He was berating him and just shooting off a ton of ridiculous right wing talking points. This was done because Cruz knew that it would be red meat for the right wing media sphere.
Starting point is 00:41:10 It would take they would take this and they declared some kind of a heroic victory over this creature of the deep state. However, in the context of a congressional hearing, Rosenstein does get to respond to things like this and he did. You could hear him starting to respond right before Alex cut it off. It was a smart idea to cut it off. Right, because the response isn't good for propaganda. So someone like Alex just cuts the clip right there before Rod Rosenstein has a chance to speak. This accomplishes presenting Cruz's words as the only reality of the hearing. His framing of the situation is the only one that's real. And by cutting off Rosenstein's answer, you make it appear that he didn't have a response or a rebuttal.
Starting point is 00:41:46 In reality, Rosenstein said, quote, with regard to Flynn to take that particular issue, Senator, my understanding at the time that I arrived was that General Flynn had lied to the Vice President and to FBI agents. And that, I believe, was the primary issue that was under investigation at the time. Oh, that seems really reasonable. Right. In the context of the larger hearing, Cruz's words look like a petulant outburst that means nothing. And it's clearly a performance. But if you isolate the comments and deprive them of any of that context, you can make them appear to be some kind of a meaningful brave, we're not going to take it kind of thing. And it's not. It's just a child throwing a tantrum. It's kind of amazing that on this very same episode,
Starting point is 00:42:26 he makes Ted Cruz look exactly like douche, a speciale or whatever it is like that literally open. Yeah, I hate him, but that literally like I'm already over my time like fuck off. You're just you're just saying dumb nonsense. Yeah, stop it. Yep. You're stupid. No, I know it's all it's all. I mean, to use the term Alex likes to use its kabuki theater. Yeah, that's all nonsense. Yep. So for a long time, Alex was really in support of Donald Trump and his family and everybody who maybe touched him. God King. Uh huh. Things have changed. Alex has already said that he doesn't like Jared Kushner hates him because Tucker Carlson said some bad things about him and Alex is, I guess, a really brave, independent thinker. That's all you need. Right? Yep. Now it turns
Starting point is 00:43:13 by following dad. Now it turns out this is spread is no longer just Jared. He now also hates Ivanka. Yay. I will tell you, I know people that know Kushner. I know people that know what's going on and they literally make fun of Trump behind his back just like McMaster did. Yeah, no shit flaming liberals. And they literally have disdain for Trump supporters. Yeah, no shit. Supporters and really does cook his steaks burned and with ketchup and his blue collar in a weird way. That's what his parents came out of. But Kushner came out of Nazis. His dad's a scammer. They paid double the 666 building and the Chinese own it. Kushner is a problem. Yeah. And I've talked to people about the way Kushner and his wife, Donald Trump's daughter,
Starting point is 00:44:03 and they're just what my buddy called space aliens, really rich, multi-generational money. Who's your buddy? The kids, the spoiled rotten. It's not noses. Does he have a telescope? Don't just run off and use drugs all day and surf. Get into politics and things. They just walk around telling each other how elite they are and looking down their noses at people. They are elitist trash. Yeah. Hey, guess what? The only reason they have anything to do with the White House is because of the guy you love so much. So calm down with this and the idea that he's pointing the finger at Ivanka about her multi-generational money. Where did she get that money from? It's skipped a generation, Dan. It was a it's a multi subtracted generation. He's he's complaining about
Starting point is 00:44:47 its kids, children of multi-generational money who get into politics. Is that exactly the definition of Donald Trump? Insane. Insane. What the fuck is he talking about? Comes from a weird blue collar background. It comes from Nazis. He comes from fucking Nazis. Shut up. Oh God. God damn it. I love the idea though that like all right. I mean we could find some mutual agreement and that they got to go. Yeah, shouldn't be involved in green right thumbs up buddy. Now we got there different ways. Right. Alex's path to that is really stupid. Right. Right. And he's still trying to find some way to preserve like Trump is serious and he actually like does a good job, but he put his daughter in some kind of a weird position that she had no business being in because she's related
Starting point is 00:45:34 to him. You know what nepotism is bad turns out turns out. I'm waiting for it to all be barren Trump's fault. I'm waiting for him to be the secret mastermind like some full metal alchemist. I don't think I've ever heard Alex bring up Eric. Why would you? Maybe that means Eric's Alex's source. Oh, did Donald Trump Jr. already admit to being Alex's? No, Alex admitted that he was Cernovich's source. Oh, that's right. And then now Cernovich got really mad at Alex and that might be why he never is on the show anymore. That could be. I wonder if that's the case. I haven't seen. Yeah, it's possible. Yeah. Cernovich hasn't been on in forever. Yeah. Hmm. Hmm. I mean, I suppose burning your source is probably a pretty legitimate reason. I got to walk this back a
Starting point is 00:46:17 tiny bit. Cernovich could very well have been on an episode that I didn't see. Yeah, that's that's possible. I just don't associate him with that info wars. Right. Whereas it seemed like there was a period where he was like, he was there a lot. Anyway, Jared and Ivanka are out. Good. There are no longer Maga. Great. Yep. The movement has turned. Right. Let me tell you something. The Democratic Party is the most vapid, thin skinned, fake group of elitist wannabe garbage you've ever been around. And Jared Kushner is just one of them. So I care about the president, but let me tell you something. The president has a blind spot, obviously for his son-in-law. And they all are hedging their bets for Trump to be removed. Can you imagine how sad it would be if there was like
Starting point is 00:47:07 some like Obama had put Malia into an official position at the White House? And there was some Obama supporter radio show guy who was like, listen, I love President Obama, but Malia is a problem. Sure. She is a conservative hiding in the administration trying to take him down. How stupid is this? Can you imagine that idea of Malia Obama? Like, well, we got to hedge our bets. Somebody's going to take my dad out. Oh, and I'm fine with it. Oh, and let's let's explore that a tiny bit more. The idea that Jared Kushner or Ivanka would think that they have a career anywhere near politics once Trump is out. Like they're going to survive. Oh, fuck off. They're going to be in the New York Times next year, bullshitting their way through. If you can
Starting point is 00:47:59 publish some, if you can publish some bullshit that W said, dude, without lighting him on fire first, fine Ivanka is going to have an opinion people listen to. There is a big difference between that and having a position that could affect policy. See, that's true. There is no chance that either of them will be anywhere near any kind of the power that they are now cushioners running for mayor of New York. I bet he probably probably probably would read but he'd lose. Yeah, I hope so. That's ludicrous. Yeah, the idea that they're like, oh, yeah, we got to oh, we got to protect our position if Biden gets in. What the fuck? Yeah, Biden's going to keep Kushner around. You know what? Sometimes they
Starting point is 00:48:40 they move people through, you know, it's nonpartisan. They you got to work for multiple administrations. Biden comes in. He's like, this is an upjack. I'm going to put this cool kid Jared Kushner. That's going to solve the Middle East crisis. I want him in housing. Yeah, you know, because he's got a great track record there in hell. This is so stupid. You just take it. Just take a second and look at the kind of bullshit that Alex is just. He just says those things. Now it's now it's just fucking fucking arch Democrats. Now I'm a Trump and Kushner legit waiting for Ivanka to be Biden's vice president. No, that's going to happen. That's going to happen. So there's a war on religion happening. Sure, which is a little bit early
Starting point is 00:49:21 because it's only June. Yeah, usually don't get to this till the end of the year. Yeah, a war on Christmas happens every year. The skirmishes breakout. We're a little bit past Easter too. So that is true. What do we got? What do we got in June for Christianity? Well, Trump went to in front of a church for a photo op. So that broke out a war on religion. Right. Right. Right. I'm fine with that. There not only is a full blown war and full blown war on president Trump's administration and conservative values and religious Americans, but you know, there's a war on God in this country. You have people in this country, Democrats who are more offended by seeing president Trump take a photo with a Bible in DC than they are of the fact.
Starting point is 00:50:01 No, you're right. This is this is good versus evil. Laura Loomer stay there. We'll be right back on the other side news wars dot com. I completely forgot that it was Laura Loomer who said that I have almost zero respect for her and she kind of just makes me sad. You have more than zero respect for her. I'm if he on it because I respect all people as humans, you know, like I respect people's rights. Right. Right. You know, I mean more in terms of like her work. No, I get where you're bad work. I get where you're coming from. Yeah. And it's just a bummer generally to see what she brings to the table in terms of propaganda. But I want to do address this point really quick. Sure. People aren't really offended about Trump holding up that
Starting point is 00:50:39 Bible the way that she's pretending they are. Some people are probably offended by how crass publicity stunt he was trying to pull off and how transparently he's trying to hide his authoritarian ambitions behind religion. But I would say that the far larger contingent of people who were offended were so because of how that photo op happened. It's been widely reported both by people who were there and as out by outlets like the New York Times that in order to stand in front of St. John's Episcopal Church and give his dumb speech, Trump had a crowd of peaceful protesters dispersed with the use of rubber bullets to your gas and percussive grenades. These were not people breaking into buildings and looting. They were peacefully assembled. But because the optics of
Starting point is 00:51:18 Trump going to the church and holding up a Bible weirdly were so important, the president enacted state violence on them to get them to leave so he could look strong and undo the damage to his ego that had come from the news stories about him hiding in a bunker. This is what people are most offended by. And that includes Reverend Ginny Gerbasi, who used to be a minister at St. John's Episcopal Church. She described Trump's actions as quote a sacrilege for all peoples of all faiths, faiths that are grounded in peacefulness and loving compassion, reconciliation, wholeness, healing, forgiveness, peace, love, compassion. Gerbasi was there at the church when the police disbanded the people gathered there. Her response to what she saw was quote when I
Starting point is 00:51:58 realized that people had been hurt and terrified for a political stunt. I like offended hardly begins to describe how I feel. Yeah. Also, Reverend Marion Budd, the Episcopal Bishop of Washington DC was not so happy about this stunt. She told CNN quote, Let me be clear, the president just used a Bible, the most sacred text of the Judeo Judeo Christian tradition, and one of the churches of my diocese without permission as a backdrop for a message antithetical to the teachings of Jesus. She also told the Washington Post quote, I am the Bishop of the Episcopal Diocese of Washington and was not given even a courtesy call that would be clearing that they would be clearing the area with tear gas so they could use one of our churches as a prop. No one's offended by just
Starting point is 00:52:44 somebody being religious or at least very few people are what people get kind of pissed off about is when people use religion as a shield to justify their incredibly evil behavior. And Laura Loomer knows that she's pretending not to understand because it riles her base up when she acts like people just hate Trump because he held a Bible and riling the base up and getting people all worked up is what she gets paid to do so you've everybody forgets the the verse at the end of Luke where you okay so do you think that they moved that giant boulder out of his way you can't move a boulder out of that way the boulder was too big so what happened Jesus started firing some bullets into the into the into the boulder in order to kind of soften it up then he moved it using
Starting point is 00:53:26 his superpowers and then he tear gassed his way out of there all the Romans died he met with his fucking followers they created Christianity next thing you know Trump done if you were a right winger and you told Alex that he would probably believe you yeah that's probably true that's kind of sad but it's beyond parody it's just beyond it so Alex you know there's there's pressing news going on and that is that Alex has read a Robert Kennedy article who that's not good about the vaccines that are being tested sure for covid and he's got a interesting take there's a big article by Robert f. Kennedy jr. on info wars.com that needs to be shared man sickest in his life at retaking experimental vaccine
Starting point is 00:54:13 you know being haden for many appearances on cn and other networks celebrating his heroic act of volunteering to test Modera's experimental covid vaccine the son is now set on Hayden's television career he is no longer useful to the pharma media narratives that all vaccines are always safe for all people so it's interesting the spin that Alex is putting on this story or more accurately Robert Kennedy jr. is putting on the story and Alex is just repeating the spin is basically that this guy got really really sick and now the vaccine trial is destroyed and no one's going to talk about his story because it hurts the agenda of the vaccine pushers that's weird
Starting point is 00:54:49 and it's also not true this guy Ian Hayden had a story written about his reaction to the vaccine in stat news back on May 26th apparently he did get sick after getting the vaccine according to his story quote 12 hours after receiving his second dose he developed a fever of more than 103 degrees sought medical attention and after being released from an urgent care facility fainted in his home he recovered within a day so it was bad but not nearly the level of what Alex is trying to imply he's trying to make this sound way way worse Hayden said that he quote felt more sick than he has ever felt but quote he was never afraid for his long-term health he also went on to say quote i don't regret the decision to enroll in this study what's really
Starting point is 00:55:34 tragic is that when Hayden was discussing his decision to go public about his adverse reaction he explicitly said quote i hope that it doesn't fuel any sort of general antagonism towards vaccines in general or towards even this vaccine unfortunately that's exactly what happened yeah after he wrote that yakity sack started playing yeah i mean people like robert canady and alex jones are desperate shameless hacks i have a counter headline for that a hundred and some odd thousand most dead they've ever been in their lives yeah that's an interesting headline yeah so alex predicts that he's going to disappear and no one's going to talk about him anymore because he's no longer useful to the vaccine and cares share but more importantly alex just
Starting point is 00:56:17 he just repeats inaccuracies from this robert kennedy report and it's important to recognize what's going on here he was among the 15 volunteers in the high dose group with 45 days three of these the shocking 20 experienced serious adverse events according to madera's press release meaning they required hospitalization and medical intervention you like getting paralyzed alex can't even remember it's maderna yeah so this is a perfect example of how alex ends up lying to his audience by never actually checking into any of the information he repeats he inaccurately has decided that robert kennedy is a trustworthy source so he just takes anything he says is accurate which is a bad move here kennedy is talking about a maderna press release and asserting that three
Starting point is 00:57:03 out of the 15 people in the highest dose cohort in the study had severe reactions but if you actually read the press release here's what it says quote mrna1273 was generally safe and well tolerated with a safety profile consistent with that scene in prior maderna infectious disease vaccine clinical studies the sole incidence of a grade three adverse event in the 25 to 100 dose cohorts was a single participant in the 100 group who experienced grade three arrhythmia in parentheses redness around the injection site to date the most notable adverse events were seen in the 250 dose level comprising three participants with grade three systemic symptoms only following the second dose all adverse events had been transient and self-resolving no grade four adverse
Starting point is 00:57:55 events or serious adverse events have been reported alex wants to tell the story that three out of 15 people in this trial were paralyzed that's what he's implying you want to get paralyzed all right but the reality is that there were three participants who had reactions that were things like fever or dizziness or the loss of appetite this is important and noteworthy because it helps the researchers better understand an optimal dose range but it's not the sort of thing that's so severe that it ruins trials or is even terrible news for the vaccine being studied more than anything else it gives more information which is ultimately a positive thing particularly because all those adverse reactions were quote self-resolving yeah alex has no idea about any of the stories he's
Starting point is 00:58:35 telling on his show he just has a bunch of extremist sources that he picks headlines from and then he passes along his factual if he were forced to he couldn't explain anything about this moderna study or press release his knowledge literally starts and ends with the words that he's cold reading from robert kennedy's blog and not just that he believes moderna means mother in spanish that's true yeah which is correct actually i looked into that oh did you okay well shit that one that one's on me yeah i it turns out there's a secret form of spanish secret spanish yeah the globalists have created a fake spanish that everyone speaks that's what everyone but the real spanish the good spanish the good stuff so alex is actually technically
Starting point is 00:59:18 correct on that if you are a thirty third degree mason you know about the real all right okay i didn't see that coming but all right so we're done now with the third so it's not it's not nothing's going on no not too much and so we jump into the fourth and here alex starts the show by being kind of disgraceful it is the 31st anniversary of tianaman square when pro america pro democracy demonstrators said we're sick of the communist party being our masters thousands were machine gunned and run over by armored vehicles that's a real tyranny when the military comes in to kill peaceful people holy shit you moron peacefully demonstrating for free speech at their university so there's some real comedy and alex evoking the history of tianaman square and one of the main reasons
Starting point is 01:00:09 for that is that if he were in china at that time i have no doubt you'd be on the side of the government love you mal you are a great guy huge fan the image of the protest in tianaman square is really all alex knows about the entire piece of history and he's just filled in the rest with what he wants the story to be he wants the protesters to be america lovers and all this because it's an easy appealing story to tell his audience but the reality is much more complicated the movement that was a part that this was a part of grew out of student unrest in chinese college campuses beginning in 1986 they had a diverse set of priorities so getting into all that here would be a bit much to explain right now things really intensified after the death of
Starting point is 01:00:47 who yao bang a high level politician who is seen as a reformer he died on april 15th 1989 and at that point protests became more serious approximately a week later rioting and looting various cities in china which led to the poly bureau feeling the need to escalate their response to the student movement on april 26th the people's daily released an editorial with the headline quote it's necessary to take a clear cut stand against disturbances this is more or less a historical equivalent to tom cotton's recent op-ed in the new york times titled quote send in the troops which had the sub headline quote the nation must restore order the military stands ready yeah the new york times has been awfully pro genocide a few times in uh in america's history
Starting point is 01:01:32 the protesters continued to organize and demonstrate even launching a hunger strike in mid-may the state responded by declaring marshal law and sending in military against the protests particularly the students occupying tenneman square this is all important context that led up to the iconic image of a man standing in front of a tank these things that proceeded the standoff can't be ignored when discussing the protests because due to so deprives them of their real meaning when you look at the events that led to tenneman square it's it's easy to see how alex would be calling for the deaths of the students and protesters there have been riots and looting breaking out associated with their movement they were calling for an upheaval of the status quo
Starting point is 01:02:10 the state had made clear their argument for using force against them many of these details you can draw direct parallels to the current situation in our country and you see what side alex is on now like one to one there's there's a lot of similar there's some differences but there's a lot of similar yeah yeah and you can see alex trying to take that legacy and pretend some kind of belief that he has that he wouldn't be entirely in favor now crushing the the the the protest now it's every conservative who even contain if you say martin luther king jr's name and you're a conservative you should be slapped in the face like it's pathetic how dare you so alex to make things even worse like alex brings up this tom cotton op-ed which he seems fine with so tom cotton
Starting point is 01:02:59 send in the troops we're gonna get into his report and what he's talking about we're being put into artificial martial law we're being put into what we're being put into lack of law and order so that trump can be run on the office like chelchescu but he's not a dictator okay uh yeah that's why we got to run him out of office you see these rationalizations you see the sort of things he would be saying yeah also comparing trump to chelchescu not a good idea hey i don't know why that came to his mind that's not good not not at all yeah so alex starts complaining about how uh cnn wants white children to be sad about being white or something i think there's a little bit more nuance to what the argument is but here cnn saying we've got to indoctrinate children
Starting point is 01:03:49 and teach them to hate themselves and have low self-esteem and to follow orders and to prove to the new church of the new world order that they atone for their original sin the new religion the priesthood here it is i think the the important thing for white parents to keep in the front of our mind is that if black children in this country are not allowed innocence and childhood without fear of being killed by police or marginalized in some other way then our children don't deserve innocence if tamir rice can be shot dead in a public park playing with a toy gun something white children do all over this country every day without the same fear of being shot if tamir rice can be killed then white children need to be told at least at the same age if they can't be
Starting point is 01:04:34 innocent we don't get to be innocent and if we would keep that in the front of our minds then perhaps we would be able to hear what black and brown folks are telling us every day and have been for many years so what he's saying is if you buy us premised human sacrifice did you oh wow a thousand miles away let's do something wrong here there's lots of white kids get shot with guns it's a field goal from the 20 yard lines now there's 250 million people a few kids get shot of here with toy guns and it's all police are bad all whites are bad what the fuck is that they took a knee in the end zone off the kickoff first play at the 20 yard line kick a field goal toss it out there interesting strategy being employed all right alex okay that's human sacrifice you're
Starting point is 01:05:23 making sense that's human sacrifice dad also I tried to find instances of the police killing white children with toy guns I couldn't find happens all the time I couldn't find happens all the time yeah alex is is a way out of line here which is not surprising because he's a big old racist yeah he's a big old bigot right so but there's another group of bigots out there called the boogaloo boys oh of course the bellingcat had recently had a nice breakdown of that whole situation if you want to learn more about them but if you don't want to learn more about what they're up to don't worry they're fake group who's just the left wait hold what turns out the left is just using but no but they we found that but the antifa underscore us things right no that was
Starting point is 01:06:05 identity you rope up okay but it's all fake all right they have leftist arms inside the fbi that had been setting up these right-wing provocateur leftist arms at the fbi and all the rest of it notice you've got the notorious left wing organism that is outrageous antifa is run by alexander soros and george soros we know the organization that controls it we know their main website refuse fascism dot org a communist international organization um their command and control is all public their stuff's all printed up centrally in san francisco and new york and dc the un is involved and we have all the internal documents as well that info wars dot com detailing the entire battle plan documents to tell plan for symbol unrest marshal law uh that was being
Starting point is 01:06:52 run by obama and by brennan your fake-ass four-chan documents get the fuck out of here really yeah but i mean that's all he's got he's presenting it as like such the like the most concrete solid thing ever it's just fuck you man and fundamentally antifa doesn't exist for you people stop it they're just not they're not real nope alex found some documents on four chan that proved there's a command and control structure run by alexander soros and george soros it doesn't make sense why would it yeah pretty lame yeah that's not good i noticed in these two days something interesting i actually know i noticed a number of really interesting things the first is that millie weaver doesn't come back and break her big story oh no she doesn't
Starting point is 01:07:37 about her two year two year long mole tons of documents and that doesn't have a mirror server interestingly also james o' keith put out a new piece of shit and alex doesn't talk about that either good but i bet he will soon i hope and i hope everybody agrees to just not talk about it the acme brick narrative is gone love it that hasn't popped back up oh that's unfortunate and then what was the other one oh yeah the i got uh you know uh robert evans tweeted about our coverage of alex's theory that george floyd uh was mixed up with the cop gang yeah Derek chauvin was in and it was on fox news the next day jesse waters on fox news was repeating some of these ideas and speculating about them he's great and uh you know that all narrative is also alex isn't isn't pushing
Starting point is 01:08:27 that any further and i think part of that is because it's made its way to where it needs to go it's made its way through the pipeline it's been laundered and now you can and now you have jesse waters talking about it and giving it access to far more eyes than would have seen it otherwise and i find that really interesting these absences in terms of like what he's what he's doing those are very conspicuous it's very strange the acme brick one in particular i think maybe he just realized like i can't prove this at all that was a weird qanon bricks aren't going anywhere and that's a qanon that's a weird qanon person yeah shit oh god damn it yeah every time i start trying to be a weirdo i find out i'm using these weirdos and i think it is entirely possible that like
Starting point is 01:09:10 you know that sort of talk could lead to violence against acme employees like oh yeah that's fair because if you believe that acme brick is putting these bricks around in order to cause all this trouble like you could see somebody who's unhinged and just believes it like seeing somebody who works for acme brick and like you are trying to start a revolutionary war by putting bricks places yeah yeah i you know i could see some lawyer being like you can't you can't do that you can't you because if you get pressed on it all you can do to back that up is point to this qanon video yeah and that's do this no that's going to work if one gets hurt you are fucked yeah i think maybe that might have been i mean even if a brick gets hurt he's fucked also millie i'm waiting she's it
Starting point is 01:09:58 no no no i'm waiting she's too busy working on the pulling a computer chip out of a homeless person someone's gotta do that she's got to do it um that's their season finale dad i can't wait series now so also another thing that happened is that mad dog madis mad dog he came out and said that trump is a threat to the constitution yeah good work asshole man fuck him daylight sick of former trump blank does blank fuck off you're not wrong to feel that way yeah it's daylight dollar short but shit you know what really pisses people off who like trump you know yeah you're gonna get into this trolling game a high level general uh saying this stuff might uh be uh worth something throw a throw a fire bomb and then we'll talk asshole alex can barely even address the
Starting point is 01:10:45 story but he does bring it up a little you've got mad astute i guess got his paperback book coming out so he wants to promote it even alex can see through this bullshit saying trump's a danger to the constitution we've been overtaken by globalists we've had our sovereignty transferred out of the country we've had the nation absolutely enslaved was that nafta good rebuttal yeah um yes i don't know i mean yeah sure there's i don't i didn't look into it i don't know if he has a book coming out i don't care it's a it's a reasonable explanation for why somebody would be making press rounds but i i don't know if that's the case but yeah alex can just invalidate his comment with that and then talk about we're under globalist slavery that doesn't do anything no um so in this
Starting point is 01:11:28 next clip okay this is really funny um william bar attorney general bar right was giving a speech that alex realized he would have to cover live and a big part of that was alex thinking that he's going to talk about antifa right and how like are going to get up sure he doesn't really get to that at the beginning of the speech at all and alex gets super bored because bill bar is talking about how like uh we cannot allow police to behave in the way that led to george floyd's death and alex like this is not working for me no so here's what he does our american criminal justice you know this is really all about folks this must change in the final equation it's going to be robots policing you that sounds right watch the laws and nothing less is acceptable you already saw it with
Starting point is 01:12:17 the covet roll out nation's leading it's going to be ground robots air robots humans are going to be taking out everything what are we doing x-men here colorblind watch watch are the sentinels coming is that what's going on that a robo cop or something oh i'll take robo cop sure he shoots dudes in the dick uh-huh so uh they get back to bill bar's speech they go to commercial because they have to and then they get back to it and bar is talking about there's a difference between protesters and people who are looting sure um and alex has to make clear as bill bar is talking that even the peaceful protesters alex hates them of course the large preponderance of those who are protesting are peaceful demonstrators but are america haters who are exercising their first
Starting point is 01:13:02 amendment rights and they have that to be idiots so alex there is no real difference like he thinks that anybody who's doing anything hates america so whatever it's kind of sweet you hate america the end so we get to the end of bill bar's uh little segment and alex he ends very frustrated for him because he's not getting what he wants which is bill bar being like i'm going to arrest george soros tonight right we are going to deal effectively with the criminals who are involved in extremist violence okay well the cops with george soros now he's under soros obama thank you general uh for your leadership good morning this is needless to say an incredibly challenging time for our country all right he's going to go to some politically correct comments
Starting point is 01:13:54 i can't handle it just turn it off so yeah let's not hear from the fbi director uh giving more commentary just about the pc bullshit why won't they kill my imagined enemies he is pretty mad about that it would be frustrating if you told yourself that was what was going to happen yeah that's true uh huh yeah so in his next clip alex gets into one of his standard prediction games and we see this whenever tensions get really high in the country you'll see alex predict false flags coming right and one of the functions that this serves is on some level alex knows that there's a really decent chance that one of these right wing groups one of these like fucking dudes all my buddies know how to build bombs shit's gonna go crazy he on some level knows that there's
Starting point is 01:14:39 a decent chance that someone will blow something up someone will do a shooting or you know there will be something and he needs to have a preemptive narrative in place and so he's building that here and they have launched more and more escalations and the next escalation is assassinating the president or staging giant terror attacks and blaming it on the right wing patriots and they're going to do it and are we just going to sit here while the clintons and the obamas load up a fuel truck again and blow up a federal building are we just going to sit here while they go and shoot up a black church with some mental patient they got wound up on psychotropics and and fedamins and amnesics in a hotel room right now they got brainwash loony tuners everywhere ready to go they punch a couple
Starting point is 01:15:25 buttons it's over there's no way to stop their false flags unless the leadership of the globalist is dealt with and that's not my place i don't do that i'm here exposing them which is dangerous enough i'm just telling everybody here that when they start blowing up federal buildings and shooting up black churches and blaming every person america and they've already got the military kneeling to the communist that it's all set for the full overthrow of everything and then all you idiots that thought you were part of the establishment are going to lose everything you got because the globalists are going to break your back and savage to live in hell out of you because they think americans are a bunch of cowards who they've got on their knees and running
Starting point is 01:16:06 really trying to talk quick going out to break there i honestly just feel so bored yeah like that's so boring can you imagine right wing gun nuts standing outside a black church being like hey we're here to protect you so if any fake white nationalists come here with giant machine guns we're going to kill those guys doesn't seem likely yeah um i i just i i'm so bored of him like a lot of this stuff is like it's farcical when you know things are changing you know i don't know if things are changing but there is a mood um in the world that tends towards a possibility of a of a different future right um there's talk of that i've seen of some people wanting to dismantle police uh uh yeah city council city council members yeah they have really been floating that around
Starting point is 01:16:58 now dismantling police departments and rebuilding something that serves people better than what we have now it only took a few hundred years right but there is a there is this wouldn't be possible without the people coming out into the streets and the the conversations that this provokes and the idea that we would lose our ability to dream in such to such an extent that alex would be like no shut this down with the military yeah yeah and and that he would be so defensive of his own like white identity and his right wing shit that he'd just be like okay there's going to be you know false flag coming up like like he does every single time like he's treating this like any other circumstance that has ever happened throughout his career as opposed to i don't
Starting point is 01:17:46 know something that has the potential to be uh something far more uh important i would rather this country burn to the ground than share my space is equals with non whites that's what he might as well say and that might be on some level subconsciously what he where he's coming from that's where all these people are coming from yeah so alex has another guest on he's been on before but it's been quite a while this dude sucks and he's now running for office all right i'm really excited to have hotep jesus with us for the balance of the hour hotep nation dot com he is a thought leader he's cultivated loyal following the social medium being honest and genuine providing knowledge and experience and pulling a lot of great stunts stunts so real name brian
Starting point is 01:18:33 sharp a hotel hotep jesus is a real piece of shit that alex first learned about when he filmed a prank video where he demanded free coffee from starbucks as reparations got him the whole point of that video is that these employees are such white cucks that they would just give him free coffee as someone who used to manage a starbucks i can tell you that employees are trained to give free coffee to people who ask because they know that a lot of coffee is just going to get wasted anyway and the amount of goodwill that can be gained by giving coffee to people in need is far more valuable than demanding payment at our store we had some people experiencing homelessness who would come in pretty much every day and we'd give them coffee and say hi chat with them for a little
Starting point is 01:19:10 bit we'd never charge them this dude's video was based on a faulty premise which was used to make a pseudo racist point so congrats you guys should really consider calling in the cops to really escalate that situation you know that idea of giving somebody a free cup of coffee that leads to socialism dan that is socialist that's why we need an overwhelming military police presence to go in there and make sure that that negative four cent cup of coffee is safe i mean that's the reason for his stunt in the first place was those two black people who were kicked out of a starbucks who were having a meeting yeah and they were like oh you're loitering yeah and so that the whole setup of the video was hey i heard starbucks is racist i want my coffee yeah or whatever everything
Starting point is 01:19:56 is faulty and all of it is just counterproductive great stunt bro yeah an article in the daily beast about hotep jesus says that in august 2017 he tweeted out that the term quote holocaust denier was created to hide the truth he released a video earlier that year where he said quote alt right isn't afraid to call out the jews and their implications and the destruction of the black community in america it's just the truth you can't call me anti-semitic if it's the truth he would go on to be a guest on the explicitly white nationalist outlet red ice and gave a message to the almost certainly non-existent black audience of that program quote jews do not like you they hate you they think you're shit he was a promoter of the pizza gate conspiracies he's theorized that
Starting point is 01:20:40 eating soy makes people gay and despite being an anti-semitic conspiracy pushing idiot he's been hosted by people like joe rogan laura ingram and turning point usa wait hotep jesus was on joe rogan show yep what yep what yep oh boy i'm guessing that alex is just having him on because kandace owens won't return his calls anymore now that she's moved on to the next level of the grift right so he needs some any just please give me a black person to pretend that what i say is an insane yeah yeah and i think that this is like also like hotep jesus is available because right right that was a while back that he was on rogan well first of all thank you for having me on alex jones and info wars one of the few media outlets to reach out to me actually the only media outlet
Starting point is 01:21:29 to reach out to me so just let's just put that in frame first yes let's that is very much in frame let's start off by pointing out that no one wants to talk to me i am in low demand let me start off by saying that my voice is not widely sought i must be being censored there's no other explanation right right they are trying to silence me let me start off by saying i'm glad you bought my book because i have sold literally zero books huh it's a good book could be so uh he gets to talking about how i don't give money to black lives matter right there's somewhere better you can give your money the first thing i want to talk about is talking to my girl earlier and uh she said her friend was asking friends to
Starting point is 01:22:21 match her donation to black lives matter i told her i said tell her every dollar she sends to black lives matter is going to go towards the destruction of the black family if white people want to help in this country there's only one group i know of that we can trust in fact and at his hotel nation ah your business oh i see okay hold up hold up you keep saying black lives matter what you need to know is black life matter and that life is me yeah oh boy good oh boy good way to yeah yeah so um you know we get to talk in here about something that is uh you know a reasonable concern i guess but it's being used unreasonably and that is the fact that these are large gatherings of people and they're happening while there is still a concern about covet nineteen that is is not gone
Starting point is 01:23:21 away um and they weaponized this idea a bit in this next clip a couple of weeks ago government said we had a social distance what happened to that alex what happened in social distancing they just told us that they just told us we had a social distance but it looks like riots cure coronavirus you tell oh god i wish that were true well that hoax started falling apart so they didn't want the debate to be about how all these top scientists and governments were coming out saying it was all basically a big lie so they went ahead and activated the next phase always knowing there's some bad cop footage they then hyped that up triggered the whole thing had it primed and ready to distract from the fact that they're gonna come back in the fall and next year with the mask and
Starting point is 01:24:01 the lockdowns again because we never had the point of debate to discredit this they moved on to the next thing jordan honestly i can see in your face exactly what your response is going to be and go for it there's always going to be a bad cop video kind of making the point yeah kind of making the point what a fucking moron yeah god damn it thank you alex yeah wait a way to nail the problem buddy but beyond that there's a baseline misunderstanding that alex and hotep jesus are engaging in here it's still pretty unsafe for people to be out protesting in these big groups but just generally speaking while there's still covet 19 being passed around there are steps that i've seen at some protests that would hopefully minimize the risks of infection like people all wearing masks
Starting point is 01:24:46 and staying apart as much as they can but the reality is that there's probably no way to fully social distance at a protest like this and that there is a risk of people protesting that they have accepted yeah because they believe that the underlying cause of the protests and the movement they're pushing are more important and can't be delayed yeah agreed i'd like to take a moment to compare these things to the stay-at-home order protesters that were gathering uh like last month so i can illustrate why this isn't analogous at all both of these protests are built on a foundation of a cause in the case of the current protest it's police murdering people and police not facing consequences when they do so as the protests have been going on there's been a rash
Starting point is 01:25:27 of police brutality directed towards the protesters which has led to a bit of a broadening of the scope of complaints which makes sense for the stay-at-home protesters their cause was their ability to shop and go get haircuts they weren't rallying for the right to go back to work they were rallying to send others back to work so they wouldn't be as inconvenienced so slightly as they had been and felt they were at that moment i can understand them feeling intensely about that but i also really don't agree that it's a very strong complaint the relative severity of these two complaints matters the act of protesting right now is risky so for people to commit to doing it it's important that they have a firm conviction and a meaningful cause from my position the
Starting point is 01:26:06 current protesters do have that whereas the folks from a month ago did not and then beyond that you have to consider the safety measures in the case of the protesters from month or so back there was a high level of virus denialism among them and a disregard for the idea that they're gathering could be a problem in the current case that's not the case uh that's not so people are wearing masks people have been very vocal about how people who feel sick should stay home i've seen a number of people imploring everybody who went to go protest to get tested to quarantine afterwards as well and like i mentioned our friend an snl cast member chris red organized to go fund me to help these protesters get tested to pay hospital bills if they come down with covin 19
Starting point is 01:26:48 at the point of this recording it's raised over 240 000 which will go a long way towards making sure that the people who attend these rallies are able to get tested and thereby know what actions to take if they need to uh firmly quarantine and what have you a large group of people coming together like this for an important cause it's not necessarily a terribly dangerous thing provided that people handle it responsibly we'll see how that plays out but the people who are involved in this protest are very community minded there's a heavy streak of mutual aid that runs through it and that extends to helping each other uh and keep each other safe so i don't uh i don't foresee that being as much of a problem as some other large gatherings could be but it it would be
Starting point is 01:27:30 foolish to pretend that it's not a risk no it's absolutely a risk and uh it's it's really it's really a bummer that it is or maybe it's actually necessary maybe the only reason that we can really finally fucking do this shit is because we have been so trapped and so held hostage by the coronavirus and so everything has been exposed so desperately maybe i don't know but at the same time we're that's so awful that this is coinciding with a fucking pandemic yeah i don't know and i think it'd be impossible to tell but um yeah i don't i just don't uh i i've i've felt uh this concerned you know i've i've thought like i'm pretty worried about the possibility that there could be a sharp increase in cases um and that would be unfortunate you know what i was thinking is the words of that
Starting point is 01:28:24 dumb fuck lieutenant governor where he's like people the old people are willing to die for the economy and in this situation people are willing to die for the possibility of finally having some sort of social justice people are willing to die as we've seen on a daily nightly basis people are either under threat for their lives or they have been murdered this is too big yeah to to say no you know sure yeah so um that that's a little bit of a misunderstanding that i can understand where hotep jesus and alex are coming from but i disagree and i think that they're uh using this poorly yeah in this next clip though we find something that i just think is is is more intentional and is misinformation and we look at the numbers if we go to google trends and we type in black lives
Starting point is 01:29:15 matter and we check google trends you see two major spikes you'll see one this year just happening now and the last major spike was during the last election year so you start to see trends and where you have trends you have cycles so google trends is an interesting tool but it's also one that's super easy to misuse like how hotep jesus is right now if you go and look at the trends for the term black lives matter you'll see a spike currently and one in 2016 which he's asserting is because it's an election year that's a fun assumption to make but the spike in 2016 happened on the week of july 10th which is just after alton sterling and felando castillo were murdered by the police it's also right after that sniper in dalis shot at the police killing five there's a good
Starting point is 01:30:03 reason why that term was trending at that point there's nothing to do with the election which was months away uh there was also a spike in august 2015 that wasn't an election year i had to do with the aftermath of the charleston shooting also there's a very different data set you can find if you search for black lives matter all one word so i have no idea what hotep jesus is even working off of this is an example of him taking some numbers and then writing a story about them that's based on nothing it's conspiracy thinking run wild and it basically doesn't mean anything but you can do that with google trends like it's really easy to try and come up with an argument based on website traffic and search terms and if you don't do it responsibly and look for context
Starting point is 01:30:43 of like okay there's a lot of people interested in this thing at this point why is that the case right if you don't if you don't engage in that level of context you're just trying to mislead people totally pure yeah simple and it's it's such that if you if you do pull that half of the people listening to info words are like holy shit how do you even find google trends information you know like it sounds like you're a tech that's a wizardry yeah yeah yeah yeah so there's a lot of stuff going on in q and on circles right now about hillary having to testify in a case about her emails and such still huh yeah still going and so hotep jesus has some stuff to say about that now i believe that uh a date has been set was september yes what's that date september ninth let me look at
Starting point is 01:31:29 it i believe you're right on the hillary ones mm-hmm yes in september yeah so so i want to say that's a significant date we're gonna have to oh absolutely they're gonna have some new big riot or some new federal building it blown up or a mass shooting guys look up the where they move the hillary date please thanks yeah yeah look at this i think something else happened around this day oh wait september 11 you see how they put that date right under something that allowed in the disguise thing i see how you put that date yeah right this is madness this is just meaningless blabber oh nothing nothing is more obvious than 19 years after september 11 that's the that's the golden hour for them so i looked into trying to find uh information about hillary having to testify
Starting point is 01:32:25 and i found this news being reported on a website called where is the buzz but it doesn't have any links to anything i can murder hornets sure i found another blog called josh who news which explains that this is some kind of a case that was being brought by judicial watch this article doesn't say the clinton has to testify it's just that the case is currently adjourned until september 9th so i found a story about this uh uh on c uh cnbc but it's from march second so this is kind of old right on time apparently what happened is that a lower court ruled that hillary has to testify in a deposition related to this lawsuit about our emails it seems like what happened is that hillary appealed that decision and the appeals court which is currently
Starting point is 01:33:07 adjourned will pick up the case on september 9th i can't find any reliable evidence that says that she's supposed to testify on that date but here we are we see how these guys report on this stuff it's wild speculation and fear mongering and evoking 9 11 yeah this is impressively stupid stuff just all around i read hillary's appeal it was it was pretty short it was like come the fuck on you know these guys stop it stop it two words judicial watch question yeah yeah exactly so alex plays that video of hotep jesus going to starbucks and uh playing the hits you know nobody wants to come hear the new stuff everybody wants to hear the hits but unfortunately right afterwards alex really basically undercuts the entire point of the video that's good everybody's
Starting point is 01:33:53 saying it's famous but this didn't make logical people freak out but then we sent our crew member in his white he said give it to me for reparations and they did it hi it's almost like starbucks employees are trained to give people free coffee and maybe this doesn't have anything to do yeah oh oh that that data point really doesn't prove my earlier no it kind of tends to indicate uh to right thinking people that maybe maybe they just wanted you to go away yeah maybe maybe that's part of the training maybe there is a big sigh yeah so in this next clip hotep jesus is talking about how they're all out of towners uh in minneapolis and he has not updated his story yet he's still working on old talking points we know but governors have come out and said that you know one governor
Starting point is 01:34:45 said in minneapolis i believe 95 percent of the people that were arrested were from out of town soros and his band of goons of antifa ha ha soros and soros and his antifa goons yeah did not did not get the update on that story hotep jesus that is old information and he's even embellishing it i believe the quote was 80 yeah i was 80 percent from the uh the press conferences that had to be walked back well it went up data showed it went up i'm sure it did yeah so these bail funds that are going around that are largely for folks who are protesting who get arrested by the police there are tons and tons of those people like hotep nation uh donate into bail funds right now i assume hotep jesus believes that all of this money is just going to rioters
Starting point is 01:35:29 and looters sure which is not accurate at all and then uh based on his last statement about 95 percent of these folks being out of towners based on that being out of date what he says after this hilarious and you got people that donate to some uh bailout fund to bail out protesting so basically what you're doing is you're bailing out the criminals who destroyed the black community this is what happens when you're ill informed when you're not up to date on the information that's available when you cover your eyes and cover your ears at the sight and sound of alex jones or the name of don trump you are blinding yourself to some facts oh you're blind to facts because you're not up to date man you know i he it seems like he was trying to ironically claim
Starting point is 01:36:22 hotep but man does he live up to being a hotep really lives up to it he's going for it you know he's uh he's pretty bad oh yeah so alex asks him what he would tell his daughter alex's daughter who's 12 um and this is kind of interesting because uh you know you can kind of say what would you say to my 12 year old daughter asking is she bad because she's white donate to hotep nation um i would tell her oh different i would have to explain to her the media industrial complex that's what i would do i would break down the media industrial complex and and how how it can make people believe all sorts of silly things so interestingly hotep jesus complained about the media when he was on red ice too but you see that shows a little more openly anti-jewish than alex
Starting point is 01:37:13 is comfortable being so he was able to speak a little more freely there was he he said quote the only thing that makes white supremacy a thought in people's minds is the media and the media is controlled by who the only thing that makes white supremacy a thing is music and it's controlled by who the movies hollywood who controls that black people don't control that white people don't control that oh i think they do our banking system when we talk about people got sold out banks got bailed out who controls these banks okay this is the worldview that hotep jesus espouses and he knows that to make his message palatable to alex's broadcast he has to tone that down a little bit all the slick bigots do that when they come on info wars you see that from all of these people
Starting point is 01:37:53 like all these folks who are pretty deep into holocaust denial will never directly say those things on alex's show because they know that there is enough of an audience that alex has that you can probably get someone over to you but if you come out and you're like six billion is a fake number yeah if you do that kind of shit then you're never going to get them to take the first step once they've taken three or four steps in your direction you might be able to spring that on them they'll be like oh my god what if they were right all along you can't open with that and if you're like if you're on alex's show you're trying to open with the audience alex is there selling his audience two bigots yeah pretty consistently and you can't it's unjustifiable
Starting point is 01:38:38 if you come out swinging with the bigotry actually yeah what it says to me is that hotep jesus hasn't listened to the show for the past four months because now swing away buddy kick that 80 yard field goal go to town i still think some people other than like steve pochanic speak a little bit more carefully steve doesn't give a fuck no steve doesn't give a fuck he's just like i have humiliated alex to an extent that is unimaginable i could say whatever the fuck i want on this show alex is it's over for him yeah yeah so one thing that i found really interesting i think alex might have been eating or something but there are a bunch of times when a hotel jesus is talking and stops talking it's clearly done with a thought sure and then alex does not come in doesn't
Starting point is 01:39:28 chime in and a hotel jesus has to then start another thought is he eating an egg roll back then he must be listen to this and we are the consciousness of the black community the unconscious ness of the black communities of foolishness you see on tv that's purported by the white liberals and the movies and the record labels if you look at old school too pox and cool that's very weird for alex's show that is something i almost never hear and that's not an instance of someone politely letting their guests speak no that was a four second pause of dead air where alex he must not have been at his desk yeah or something yeah yeah it's it's uh it's very bizarre that's not uh that's just he was eating he was hoping that he would keep he was hoping that he could
Starting point is 01:40:18 ride it out for a little bit longer i mean it's possible i mean so many of his guests are willing to just talk and talk and talk for no fucking reason so it's true there was a natural end to that thought and then a pause and the starting of another thought right because he thought alex was going to come and say right well alex is very used to people having a natural end of the thought that's true yeah so we end this clip uh well end this episode and end this our episode this is the last clip so i'm jordan this is 2020 sure um so it ends exactly how you'd expect it to end yeah it's been a year since you came on i want you to be a regular guest please come back next week do a special report with us give them a show a commercial free podcast you want to do it
Starting point is 01:41:04 soon i'd like to do something really big with you with uncle hotep i'd like to do something in studio with uncle hotep let's throw a budget let's do something let's create some really awesome viral i tell you what you name the time if you're ready to jump on a plane please come i'll finance it hotep hotep nation dot com we love you we appreciate you godspeed this might be one of the only instances where alex gives or offers to give someone a job and they really like take him up on it he sounds interesting yeah he does um i would like to point you back to the very beginning of his interview when he said no other media outlets are calling yeah he is not busy there might be a book end situation here uh so yeah i find this really interesting you know like you have almost
Starting point is 01:41:48 very little progression in terms of interesting things about the narratives that alex is pushing or building around this just an anger at protesters a resentment about secretary defense espar not wanting to use the insurrection act um you know that's kind of all that we're in we're in but at the same time there's a we're running out of time there is no time left that's still that intensity and like an interview with two weirdos who are running for office and hotep jesus it's like all right these are the this these are the folks you want to talk to yeah great so um i don't know man uh we'll be back what are you doing you're staring at me i you said we'll be back hey look dude i'm really pissed off god damn it you need me hanging like that i mean you say we'll be back
Starting point is 01:42:42 and then you do that sound like you had another thought man god damn it you're an asshole you're killing me you're going to get me killed yeah we'll have another episode thirty years thirty years for you uh but we have a website we do have a website it's knowledge fight dot com we're also on twitter we are on twitter it's that knowledge i'm just gonna fight and i go to bed jordan we're also on facebook we are available to tell the show is there and then find a local fund in your area to help with bail or uh anything that you possibly can yep uh we'll be back but until then i'm neo i'm leo i'm dzx clark i am the juiciest ice cube andy and chance us you're on the air thanks for holding so alex i'm a first-name caller i'm a huge fan i love your work i love you

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