Knowledge Fight - #443: June 9, 2020

Episode Date: June 10, 2020

Today, Dan and Jordan discuss Alex Jones' half-day shift on his show from Tuesday. In this installment, Alex floats a weird Kennedy assassination theory and attempts to find some reformed leftists in his audience to call in to the show.

I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys knowledge fight. Dan and George knowledge fight. Need money. Andy and Kansas. Stop it. Andy and Kansas. It's time to pray. Andy and Kansas you're on the earth thanks for holding. Hello Alex I'm a Christian and I'm a huge fan and love your work. Knowledge fight. No, no, no, not knowledge for e.com. Yeah love you Hey, everybody. Welcome back to knowledge fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes like sit around take novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Joa indeed we are Jordan to Dan Jordan and quick question for you. What's your bright spot? Let me get back to it because it's actually involved

with something else. So you go Oh, is it dating? No. No. Okay My bright spot, Dan, after putting in a hundred hours into Final Fantasy seven. I have finally two hundred percent. Oh yeah. Okay. Twice on hard mode. That's too much. Oh yeah. Yeah. I have gotten back to playing Horizon Zero Dawn. Great game. Really enjoying it. Yeah. I know a lot of I know a lot of listeners really responded well to my love of that game. I think it's fantastic. It's really is. I'm not usually a guy who likes like a bow and arrow based game, but the mechanics are really well done. And then the story is just fantastic. Yeah, it's really great. It's really interesting and I'm glad you're enjoying it. Yeah. Love me. Love me a good two hour

jaunt on side quests and then forget that I'm doing a main story period. It's very rare that I give someone a recommendation and it turns out well. So I'm glad that that is the case. You got one. So I put it on the board. My bright spot for this episode is actually going to dovetail squarely into the year of the. So the year of the Celts are Jordan. I have been slacking a little bit on it because the move and everything sure it's difficult. Yeah, but I've I've focused and part of that is because I have to pack up everything right fucking cells. There's still Celsius in there. You got to get rid of them somehow. So we're up to one hundred and four hundred and four hundred. That's

exciting. We are more than one fifth of the way through this within two months. Yeah, that's exciting. We started on four twenty right now. Six nine as we're recording this four twenty sixty nine. Whoa, that's great. Forget it is great. Awesome. Let's all go home. So now wrap up America. We did everything we set out to do the reason that this is my bright spot is that it also comes with a really exciting thing and that is that there is a new entry in the top five. Oh shit. Yes, we have encountered an eighty plus Celts and eighty plus. So as we know, I have a drop for this one. No, although I should Mars Brewery is coming in at number one with the flower power. Yes, fantastic. Amazing. Really, really

good. Number two is still. Aha, black cherry coffee. Fantastic. That is at an eighty three. Yeah, I believe Mars Brewery is at eighty four and then up till now Mars Brewery had another entry at the three spot with their citrus party. But it has been taken. The three spot has been three spot has been taken. Yes, by pedal. Okay, flower brand of Celtsers. They have one that's an elderberry white tea flower. That sounds amazing. I was worried about it because I don't know offhand what an elderberry tastes like, but no idea. That'll happen. So I was I was. I didn't know what to think encountering it, but I took a sip. I was like, this is amazing, but I'm like, I'm just hyping this up. This isn't as good as I think it is. Sure,

sure, sure. And then as I kept drinking it, I was like, I need to go to the store and get more of this. Oh, no, that was good. Yeah, it wasn't as like. I didn't think it beat the black cherry coffee, but it's still it's still way up there. So it's coming in at the number three citrus parties, buffed out to the number four and Laquaw lemon cello rounding it at number five still there salute to bubbler passion fruit wonder. You've been knocked off the top five list. You had to get a great run and that's what's that elderberry white tea flower. Wow. That sounds like something that a woodland creature in red wall would break. Yeah, if you I don't have them anymore because I where's Martin the warrior when

you see these cans. They look very fantasy yet. They're very cool. I believe it. So yeah, it's I think there's a trend that I'm starting to notice and I think it's some of these tea ish ones maybe or more my speed in terms of flavors. Yeah, they have a little bit more complexity and a little bit more tasty. I like it. Yeah, but we'll see anyway past a hundred got a new entry in the top five six top three hell. Yeah, what a day big news. Yes, big new very exciting to celebrate. Nothing else going on. No, so Jordan, we got to interesting little thing to go over today. We've got the June 9th, 2020 episode of the Alex Jones room. Dan is a twenty twenty goddamn it and we'll discuss some sort of weird stuff.

Yes, some stuff after after we take a moment to say thank you to some folks who signed up in our sporting the show. So first there's a little bit of a trend of fecal names. Oh, we're doing shit now. Well, it's not all fecal, but it's a little bodily function. All right. Okay, that I don't appreciate a cond, but I still appreciate people sporting the show. So farty mick pooper. You are now a policy. Walk. I'm a policy. Walk. Thank you, farty. Thank you. You just you just resent having to say mick pooper. Next, Jason M. Thank you so much. You're now policy. Walk. I'm a policy. Walk. Thank you, Jason. Thanks, Tom C. Thank you so much. You're now a policy. Walk. I'm a policy. Walk. Thanks, Tom.

Thank Tom. Next, Alex Jones. Make them. Thank you so much. You're now a policy. Walk. I'm a policy. Walk. Thank you. Now I'm going to make it a repeat. No, I'm good. Next, shitter Macgaffin. Thank you so much. You are now a policy. Walk. I'm a policy. Walk. Thank you so much. It's been a while since I've had that Adam Saylor reference. Shitter though. Yes. No, no, no. I get it. Yeah, I got it. I got it. Next, Rachel. Thank you so much. You're now a policy. Walk. I'm a policy. Walk. Thank you, Rachel. Thank you, Rachel. Next, David B. Thank you so much. You're now a policy. Walk. I'm a policy. Walk. You know what the B stands for? That's it, but oh boy. Then finally, I'd like to say thank you to

a couple of people who donated in such a way as to rise above. Yes, in a way that they deserve a very special recognition that elderberry white tea of folks. Yes, and so I would like to say thank you to Rebecca R e B e k a h who has wonderful hair. Thank you so much. You are now a raptor princess of the highest order. And also I think that I may have already given a thank you and a raptor princess induction for this person. But in case I haven't, Laura W. Thank you so much. You are also a raptor princess. I'm a policy. Walk. Go home to your mom and tell her you're brilliant. I'll barbecue your ass. It's over for humanity. You're a beautiful soul. You're coming for your balls. Well, I piss all over your God. Very few people

crap in the pool unless they're babies. I piss all over the state. A practice of calling people pieces of garbage when they are coming as you see. Thank you so much, Rebecca. Thank you so much, Laura. Yes. Thank you very much to the both of you. We appreciate it very much. And if you're out there listening and thinking, Hey, I enjoyed the show. I'd like to support these gents too. You can do that by going to website knowledge fight.com, clicking the button that says support the show or you could take that generosity and throw it in the direction of some charity in your local area that's dealing with people in need. That would be wonderful as well. Yes, we would appreciate it indeed. So like I said, Jordan,

this is a little weird this episode and that's because on Monday I turned on the show and Owen Shroyer was hosting great. It's like fuck this noise all wall to wall Shroyer click turn it off. Yep. I believe he did. Alex actually did come in and do some of the show later, but I if I wouldn't show hosting like the first hour. I'm not done. I don't know what I'm doing. You're not sticking around right. So I was pretty worried that we'd have nothing to really cover for this episode. So Tuesday comes around June 9th and I turn it on fucking David Knight's hosting. Oh, that's good stuff, but David Knight is a pro and he's calm down. He said that Alex is going to be in a little bit later and that Steve Pachennik was going

to be on. Okay, so I was like, well, all right, that's catnip to you. You got no choice. Gotta find out what Steve Pachennik has to say about things that awful fraud. So I can't not do that. So I decided to just ignore all the time that David Knight's hosting. Sure. Right at the end of the first hour, Alex shows up in the last segment of the first hour and so we will begin our investigation and exploration of June 9th when Alex comes in and actually I will say Steve Pachennik disappointed me a little bit, but there's something else that goes on on this episode that I think is fantastic and definitely worth our time. So we start off with Alex teasing that although he starts off with like an intention of what the show

is going to be and then he almost doesn't get to it at all. Yeah, that's what I want to do today. I want to open the phones up for the balance of the next three hours and I want to take your phone calls on the subjects of what's unfolding in the world. So Alex is going to take phone calls for the next three hours. I predict three phone calls. He doesn't start taking calls for another hour after this. All right and then Steve Pachennik's on for a while. He does not take many calls. He takes a couple calls and there's a reason for this and it's because he will later stipulate what sorts of callers he wants and it is a non existent group. So you can get these all right. Okay, but we'll see how that goes. What the Antifa leadership is that what he's

basically would have liked to have a head to head with a senior Antifa. So in this next clip Alex, you know when he puts when he puts the call out for calls, he has to wait. Sure. People aren't calling in immediately. So he's got a vamp for a little bit and he talks about this phenomenon that we're seeing of people getting hit by cars at protests. Yes, white nationalist hitting people. Wait, what is he not going to Alex has a slightly different take on that there are video after video after video where they throw themselves on the hoods of people's cars. Wow. And act like they fall down and act like that they've been attacked. Big swing says oh look, someone tried to ram them down and kill them all trying to repeat Charlottesville over and over

again. So it's like a big satanic drama club of victimology control freaks over and over and over again, repeating the same garbage. That's those are words. You know a lot of and here's the thing that we don't talk about enough. A lot of people are shooting themselves 40 or 50 times in the back before they talk to the cops in order to make it look like they're there's a rash of that. Yeah, yeah, a lot of people just shooting themselves many times, tens of times in the back. So I would say that this is a really interesting way for Alex to try and contextualize and hand wave away a bunch of videos of protesters getting hit by cars, a bunch of fucking lemmings jumping into cars left and right. Another way to look at it is that since the Unite the right rally online bigots and

neo nazis have celebrated the idea of using cars as weapons and what you're seeing likely contains at least a kernel of copycatting from that almost certainly. I so I don't know what Alex is doing but here there's a ton of videos like what Alex is describing and a number of them fall into slightly different circumstances. Some of them are police who attempt to drive through people or intentionally open their door as they're passing a protester in order to hit them with it. Other civilians that are driving into people and a number of those videos certainly look like attacks on protesters, but each is an individual case and it's kind of hard for me to speak about them in a blanket sense because each one is a little bit different. Sure. My feeling is that

driving a car into any group of people is an attack. You bet. That's where I'm at. Regardless of other contexts. That's where I'm at. That said within the last week or so I can find instances of protesters being hit by cars in Chattanooga, Jackson, Michigan and there was 55 year old Robert Forbes who died after being struck by a car in Bakersfield. Then of course there was the incident in Denver from the end of May. It seems to be happening quite a bit. I can't get into the specifics of all of those cases but what I can do is discuss one recent instance of this that is very clearly a man trying to kill protesters which illustrates how wrong and awful Alex is. On Sunday night in Seattle a 31 year old man drove his car directly toward a group of protesters

who stopped him with a barricade. When his car stopped some protesters naturally started hitting his car since he had tried to run people over. One man who was near his open driver's side window falls to the ground having been shot by the man who was driving the car. The dude gets out of the car brandishing a gun. He tried to escape by sort of mixing in with the crowd and running away but he was ultimately subdued by protesters and then turned himself into the police. Great. Claiming that he'd been forced to shoot someone who was carjacking. That sounds right. Yeah. Yeah. This story doesn't match with the video nor with the accounts of people who saw the car accelerating as he approached the mass of protesters which doesn't make sense unless his

intentions were to run people over. So we'll wait to see what information eventually comes out on this front but from the information available now it's very hard to see this as anything other than a guy trying to hit protesters with his car failing and then deciding to shoot someone instead. This is disgusting stuff coming from Alex on one level. He knows fully well that what he's doing is providing PR cover for people who want to enact violence on people for expressing their first amendment right to protest. Alex knows that and I hope it eats him up inside because he's a monster. I'm surprised that he's not going with the false flag and somewhat like refreshed by it. It's too easy to go with the false flag. Now the idea that protesters

are jumping in front of cars. That's a new swing. I guess so but it's not really because that is a false flag. Well I guess it mean in some ways. Yes that is the protesters pulling a false flag by jumping on these cars that are rushing at right but it's not the protesters in the cars setting the whole thing up true. I'll give him. I'll give him at least one new wrinkle but it's not a new wrinkle even this. This is again one of the difficulties of Alex's whole idea even of false flags is it's a meaningless term. It could mean a hundred different things depending on what the circumstances are. He's trying to claim or fake. That's fair. It's very frustrating. Yeah that is annoying. Yeah so Alex has been gone. You know these last two days he's been pulling

half days right. Well too many protesters have been jumping in front of his car. He can't go anywhere. I mean certainly that could be it or somebody might make the argument that maybe he's not as committed as he really pretends to be about the info war could be a dick. Come on Alex calm down. I'm just floating theories. I'm going to take it away from just floating theories. I'm taking your computer away from you. Anyway Alex has an explanation for why he was gone these two days. Really appreciate the crew and I appreciate all the radio stations and TV stations and David Knight sitting in the first 45 minutes I had to be in family court yesterday. That's why I missed the first hour and then today I had an extraction of a broken tooth set up months ago.

COVID-19 shut that down. It took longer for them to get to me so they pulled this molar. That's been done. We're going to go to break. Here's the big announcement. The reason that you should buy our new. Because atomic iodine is so incredibly good for your body and because almost no one else is on the market selling true atomic iodine. So that's the big. Well I think the bigger news is that shit won't do anything for your teeth. Yeah. Yeah. It must be. He's been taking it or yeah. Well whether or not it's sold as a tooth aid. I find it difficult to believe that Alex had a tooth extracted that morning and it's not affecting his speech at all. It's possible but it seems really weird because you know you'd have numbing in the mouth that you have

swelling and you could you know you wouldn't want to be doing a ton of talking. You'd risk dry socket issues or all kinds of reasons why this would be unadvisable. He's been practicing this for years though. What do you think got his neck so big. He's been chewing cotton balls in the back of his muller. You may you may be on this. Is that he keeps accidentally swelling him. My perspective is you got mouth surgery and you're a talker. Take a day. Maybe take a day. He was in family court the other day. But the reason that I think that maybe he's not lying. The reason I think it could be true is that you know a ways back. There was an old podcast I used to do. I had a root canal and then I came immediately and did a show. No shit. So like it is possible but I do

think my voice was pretty altered because of yeah. Yeah. Massive swelling and shit but I don't know anyway. Alex said he's got the goods. Just take the day off man. Can't take the day off. Got to info war. All right. So in this next clip Jordan. Yes. I'm not sure what Alex thinks about Kennedy. Which Kennedy John. I am interested to know. I'm not sure what Alex's take is on the assassination. I know it's a conspiracy false like maybe. I don't know what his specific take on it is because Roger Stone certainly written a book about it. Right. And Alex has talked about a bunch of things but like he Howard Hunt and the Bums on the Noel and whatever. But like I've not really heard a coherent version of what he thinks the conspiracy is especially

not one that's consistent. I think he's going to come out with John F. Kennedy jumped into the bullet and that's why it was so magical. He was jumping straight into the bullet. It was Antifa. Yeah. Exactly. False flagging himself. Exactly. Not so much show the Cubans. Not so much. This next clip Alex discusses the assassination and boy this doesn't make sense. Folks are starting to pay attention to it. Last night I text messaged folks that I know that have worked for the CIA and the FBI and other places a couple different people and they said I've never seen 7277 and I said look at this. I said I'm a CIA dot gov link talking about it. So real quick. He's never been to our website. He's talking about memorandum 7277 which is the Cold War era.

Proposal from the State Department about trying to de-escalate the Cold War. We talked about it a bunch in the past but just to clarify. And if one thing got Kennedy killed it was this. You know I don't think Kennedy overall was a bad guy but he was really buying into this world government business and he did buy into the gun confiscation plan and it got him killed. It was the last straw when they finally said he's dead. And a lot of people that meant well were involved in killing Kennedy. What? But then it was an even more evil globalist group that was behind trying to get Kennedy

to the gun confiscation that was opening up China and had this new order plan that he was actually opposing. So that's why this gets so sophisticated and so so complex we would have been a lot better off if they hadn't killed Kennedy. Okay so I didn't expect Alex's angle to now be that some good guys in the government decided to kill JFK because well when they assassinated the president right they're going to do that because he sported gun confiscation. That was the last straw for them but they meant well also they were bad guys and the government well of course other to do with China or whatever and bipartisan. What is this fucking bizarre? Alex could say that that's complex and sophisticated

but what it actually is is stupid and convoluted. Yes so the CIA.gov link that Alex sent to his buddies who pretend to be inside sources is not the CIA talking about memorandum 7277 being real or a plan to disarm the citizens. It's a link to a CIA posting in their reading room of an issue of the Minutemen's newsletter on target from 1963 which presents 7277 as a plan to disarm the public. This proves nothing and it's from the Minutemen so whatever so the they were even talking about the Minutemen a anti-communist nut job militia. Yeah yeah who are who are talking about it like this. They're not even they're not talking about it. No they're like look at these right wing ding dongs right. Yeah it was one of the things in their newsletter that was about the

plan to disarm citizens. This is the link that Alex would have said it's not it doesn't mean anything. So also JFK was assassinated in on November 22 1963 whereas memorandum 7277 was written and released in September 1961. So I guess what Alex is saying is that the State Department put out this memo about desires to decrease hostilities between two major powers who could destroy the world if they went to war and this was the last straw for the good guys question mark who decided to wait over two years to kill JFK as punishment for this memorandum which did nothing and clearly didn't succeed and deescalate in the Cold War and happened to line up with exactly when the evil globalists were going to kill them and that means that the good

guys who mean well and the evil globalists got together on this plan to kill the president even though one group wants to kill him for supporting gun regulation right and the other wants to kill him for not supporting exactly. This makes no sense. It's a it's a comical. They're not even doing it together. They both just happened to come upon the same day. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah and it was a they showed up and they're both standing right on either side of holy shit. I mean there's bad JFK conspiracies but I'd never heard anything quite like this. This is impressively bad. Now admittedly the globalists are always at least 10 years behind true. So they were probably planning to kill JFK before he's even president. That could be. Yeah. That's what makes sense. I

don't know if they were 10 years behind in the sixties though. I think they've gotten increasingly behind since ten years behind since the night's no no no. They were right on schedule. Okay. This is sloppy and lazy even for Alex like what are you saying makes absolutely no sense and I guarantee that if Roger Stone weren't keeping a low prio profile at the moment he'd come in there and slap Alex around for saying this kind of foolishness on air. This is embarrassing. Yeah. That's bad. Yeah. Pretty bad. So Alex gets in this next clip. I mentioned that he wants to take calls but he's trying to get people from a null set to call in and you'll hear that here. But what I want to do today is I want to open the phones up

for leftist who've woken up to tell their stories. People that were in Antifa, people that were in the Congress party, people that were in Black Lives Matter to call in and tell us your story of what you witnessed and what you saw. Good luck with getting those callers from your audience. Alex, I don't know if that's going to happen. So it needs to be a simultaneous info warrior and former Antifa member or communist or Black Lives Matter. Yes. Gotcha. Gotcha. And also Alex opens it up a little bit more. There's other folks that you'd like to talk to and I don't believe him for a second on this one. I'll show one open the phones up for leftist that really do think Trump's bad and really do think that abolishing the police

is a good idea. Me. And who really think that the Democrats and the globalists have your best interests at heart. I can respectfully hear from you if you seriously disagree. I think that there's a distinction here. I'd like to respectfully hear from you. I'm not going to be respectful. No, no, I'm not going to be respectful. I already disagree with you in advance. There's no point to this conversation. I will treat you with rank disrespect, but I need respect from you. Yeah. Yeah. I can't imagine anybody listening to his show fitting those descriptions and then being like that's a good idea for me to call Alex. I can imagine somewhat fucking with him. Maybe but that's about it. That's the best you're going

to get. I think one of the even then one of those pretty much excludes the other two right like you can't be a leftist who really believes in abolishing the police and think that the Democratic Party has your best interests in mind. They have no interest in abolishing the police or right, but in Alex Jones world, the Democrats want to abolish the police and want to defund police department. Yeah. Nancy Pelosi is leading the charge. Oh absolutely. The black and white simplistic version of what's going on in info wars land sort of requires that. Sure. I suppose so yeah. I can see how for you that makes no sense. It makes no sense, but for an Alex Jones listener they'd be like, yeah, that must be what those sort of people are true. Biden is a communist

socialist coming to take your guns hard and Marxist. Yeah, absolutely. So in this next clip, Alex talks a little bit about the current situation a little bit vis-à-vis George Floyd, and I think that you can kind of sense a lot of Alex's universal feelings about situations like like these and then also him starting to get in line with what I assume is going to be a lot of what the right wing has to say about this, but he's now the patron saint. It actually got a funeral going on with him as a as a saint as an angel with wings. Ladies and gentlemen, maybe we can back that up five minutes and show the viewers, but this is ridiculous. I'm sad he's dead. It doesn't sound like a figure. He is not and I'm not taking on the guilt

of the police officers that have all been indicted. What is it five of them that were there? I didn't do that. So I'm not going to be made to feel guilty about anything ever. Right. Just consistent Alex Jones pathology. Yeah. Essentially. Yeah. When Jesus died, Alex is like Pontius Pilate knew exactly what he was doing. I don't got no interest in being involved with this shit and the the other thing too is that I'm noticing a real trend of leaning towards the insistence that George Floyd wasn't a good person or whatever it's more fine for him to be killed. That is exactly right. That seems to be the angle of attack that you're seeing a bit more of seeing this in some of the right wing news sources and now Alex like and it's it's just

it's a cheap cheap trick and it's meaningless. It's ultimately meaningless to like whether they're right or wrong, which I don't believe a lot of the things that they're saying in particular, but whether they're right or wrong is irrelevant to the to the larger situation. So great now we see this play out every fucking time once the once it's like they even have almost a time stamp on it where it's like okay a week after the the murder will people will be emotionally distant from it enough for us to be like all right. He was obviously an evil guy right with like we're now that we're all mad and we're all done with that. Let's just get together and realize that the cops should be able to kill and if we can manage it like earlier on. Let's try and say now

is not the time to politicize. We don't want to politicize things. You know if we're if we're able to pull that off. Let's do that. Yeah. Yeah. It's a it's cheap either way. Let's be disingenuous. Yeah. So now we get to a story that is actually fairly I'd say I would say it's tragic. I mean the person isn't dead so it's not as tragic as it could have ended up being right. It's certainly bad and Alex is going to use this as a perfect example to demonize all protesters. Meanwhile shock video police say leftist lawyer George Floyd protester shot driver in the head. The guys in the truck. He doesn't drive over him. He just stops shoots him in the head and look at the satisfaction on the face of your TV viewer of the liberal lawyer. He is a hero.

He shot a man in the head on video who stopped to stop sign. He's a hero and the left is celebrating him saying you know what that truck tried to run him over when it didn't. Let's see. It's all about oh a lady had a heart attack and died in Charlottesville. Oh a guy drove a car into a crowd. Let's just go jump in front of cars and recreate that to again create the civil war. Let's just start attacking people on highways and beating them up like all the footage we've caught on tape. So what you have here is this is a situation out of what is the name of the city Alamosa in Colorado. I found the video that was released by KRDO local news and it absolutely does not look good. And if you're basically a

conclusion entirely on the video it definitely looks like this guy James Marshall was way out of line. Yeah. Absolutely. Well I mean he shot somebody. Yeah. He's way out of fucking line. Yeah. Zero context around that. Yeah. There were about 12 protesters in a small town called Alamosa lining an intersection at a crosswalk. A black truck truck pulls up and it does appear that he's trying to drive through the intersection. There's a distinction though and that he doesn't appear to be putting any of the protesters in danger. He is at a complete stop and from the video he appears to be inching forward a little bit but not in a way that would run anyone over or hurt anyone. That's not cool and definitely not something I would appreciate someone doing but

there's a big difference between that and someone speeding towards people. Yeah. So then as he's coming through the intersection you see a guy appear to shoot him through the window and I mean the guy is a fucked up mess obviously fucked up. Yeah. There's no no no no. Honestly I don't know all the details about the situation at this point since the investigation is still ongoing but the guy who did the shooting has been arrested and he's charged with multiple crimes including attempted murder. Yeah of course. I've not seen any indication that anyone is calling him a hero and I suspect that either Alex is making that up because it's what he wants his audience to think the left believes or he's basing it on a couple random tweets that is in turn found which mean

nothing. Yeah. I'm not entirely sure this is a tragic situation but like I said the guy who got shot isn't dead and that's great. Yeah. That's yeah. That's a positive. Yeah. But yeah I I I had not heard anyone say this guy is a hero or that this is hooray. No absolutely not. If Alex wants to point me in the direction of those op-eds I'd be willing to reconsider this but I can't find anything. Yeah I would be and I would be hard pressed to see anybody you know you can you can justify property damage but nobody on the left at these protests would would ever condone that kind of shit. I can't imagine. No that's horrific. Yeah. And at the Unite the Right rally Heather Hayer didn't die from a heart attack. That is a neo-nazi talking point that Alex is repeating as a way

of trying to make it better that they ran over. Floyd actually died and there were possible intoxicants inside of his system. So yeah. So that's all bullshit but it's going to work for Alex. Like it's going to allow him to completely write off almost every sort of protest that it's meaningless ultimately but it'll work for his audience. Right. That's going to be there will always be a what about for we're going to hear this story a lot 30 times. Yes I am. I'm certain they will hear it for a while every episode at least. Yeah. So Alex gets his first caller that is presumably an ex leftist and I got some red flags on this. Let's hear it. I'm a little bit nervous. Don't be nervous. I've called in several times since I started listening in 2011 and I

ended up hanging up because of the long wait but I was really rather pleasantly surprised at how long I didn't have to this time. So first red flag. She's been an Alex Jones listener since 2011. Yeah. Not sure exactly how this works. Now that would be all right. I'm like yeah maybe you were deeply involved in stuff prior to 2011 or whatever. Sure. But then she said something else that really was like wait a second. My last stint with the peace and justice movement was back in 2003 when we were bombing of whatever I'm still a little bit nervous. What we're doing. When we were bombing when we were bombing statue of limitations is past. I'm just going to let you guys know right now what country was that we were bombing. First of all that indicates to me that

maybe she wasn't all that invested or all that involved. If she doesn't remember what fucking country she was protesting against as bombing. Yeah it seems like maybe she was a little checked out. Also I got massive red flags on anybody who claims to be an anti war demonstrator who stops in 2003. The moment that we go to war in Iraq we lost. You you absolutely anti war protest right up until we go to war. And then you're like well we lost this one. I guess I'll quit. That's kind of ridiculous. It's very ridiculous. Yes. It's maybe the most insane thing that somebody could say. Yeah. So you have a situation where this caller is presenting themselves as being an ex person of the left or whatever and they're just like yeah you know I was anti war until

the war started and then I've been listening to you for like a decade. All right. You don't count. Yeah you don't count. Whatever leftist credentials you think you have. You don't. Yeah Alex gets another caller and don't think this guy is this person is much better was hanging around with some of the WSA guys the workers solidarity alliance and do not bomb people and the whole Occupy Wall Street thing hanging around those people just disgusted me. I woke up after 9 11 when I was 16 years old. I knew that wasn't wasn't a I just knew that it wasn't a real thing. You know I could just tell that's one of our founds you in high school. So if you so now here's the deal that guy found Alex Jones because he had questions

about 9 11 in high school sure which predates Occupy right. What were you how on the left were you if you were a huge info wars fan who got disgusted by Occupy after being on the left so on the left the fuck is going on disgusted with the people at Occupy Wall Street. I don't know about this. They were doing so much. They were the 9 11 of Occupying Wall Street. Okay whatever. This is the kind of caller that you're going to get calling in when you put out these sorts of like this is the person I want to talk to. Oh yeah. So let's let's go to another one. This person's ridiculous. I was 19 when I voted for Obama. I loved America. I loved my country and I thought I believed Obama. He was very convincing and it was during Benghazi the media

didn't tell the they just didn't tell the truth and I saw they didn't tell the truth with information that was coming out. You could watch videos on it. The different men that were over there you know contradicted what the media was saying happened and I started doing research and I found you I watched I probably watched in game like 20 times I share it to everybody I know. So that's the other leftist leftist credentials are they voted for Obama right and now they've watched end game 20 times. Exactly. If you could watch that once and not be like hold on. I lost my mind. I literally lost my mind. I didn't jokingly lose my mind. It was gone. Yeah. It's something that you could passively watch once if you're not thinking and maybe you're high

like you could get through it and be like whoa man. That road is a real issue. It's not all about a road. It's mostly about a road but you could watch it and not like have alarm bells go off unless you're critically engaged with it. Right. If you are you're like a hold the fucking phone. If you've seen it 20 times. Yeah. I don't even know what to say. It's as good as Avengers. No. I'll tell you that right now. I've not seen Avengers. It's not that great. So she got radicalized by Benghazi and sorry. Could you say that one more time? I will later. So yeah, she her whole left bona fides are that you voted for Obama. I don't understand what's going on here. I don't know. Not this call. This well of callers is just this is what you get. It's it's it's it's

comical. Yeah. These people are all can we know info warriors who may be dipped their toe into something slightly democratic party adjacent? Yeah, maybe and think that they're God damn Antifa. It's weird. Oh man very weird. The people I am now most afraid of are anybody. Any time I hear like I did some research. I'm like I shut off. I'm done. I'm out on whatever you think research is. I'm out. Yeah. Yeah. It is. Well, I mean as a lot like in a in a climate where YouTube videos and reading QAnon posts. That's research. That's what you got to do. You got to be a little bit careful. So in this next clip, Alex gets he takes a break from some calls to complain about GoFundMe. It's got a wine. David Dorn in St. Louis, 77 year old retired police

captain. He got shot dead trying to stop looting. He's black. He's raised less than $50,000 on his GoFundMe. So we're going to 77 for his family. But don't worry. George Floyd has raised over $13 million. That's virtue signaling for you right there. Okay, so one of the unfortunate things that happens in the age of GoFundMe based community support is that it's a system that's very vulnerable to scams. The St. Louis police released a statement themselves warning that there were multiple fake fundraisers for David Dorn. And according to a June 3rd article in Fox News, quote, police say none of the pages have been authorized by his family and authorities are in the process of taking them down. The GoFundMe page that Alex is referring to that has

under $50,000 donated to it is actually one of the pages that's listed as an example of a scam fundraiser that authorities are trying to get removed in an article on in on the website of KMOX out of St. Louis. Yeah, but Alex would see trying to stop scammers as also virtual virtue signaling. Yeah, so one of the reasons that the family may not be authorized and GoFundMe pages is because backstoppers donated $50,000 to the family to help in this hard time. Backstoppers is an organization that provides aid for families of police, firefighters and paramedics who are hurt or killed. So they have a you know, they have a support network already in place. I'm not certain that this amount covers all of their expenses or anything like that, but it's likely

a relevant factor in them not needing to crowdsource all of their assistance. Alex is trying to present this as a case of no one caring about David Dorn. But in reality, this is a situation where a bunch of people who knows who decided to exploit a tragedy and profit off it. Alex has no idea what the reality of the situation is. So in effect, he's lamenting that a fraudulent crowd funding campaign didn't make enough money, which is nuts. Yeah, that's a weird thing to do. Yeah, it's very strange. The official George Floyd GoFundMe page has raised almost 14 million at this point, but my response to that is so what? Yeah, great. What do you hurry? Yeah, that's all. I mean, I don't know. You have 14 million dollars isn't worth a human life. So fuck you. Yeah, well

there's that and he had five children. There's expenses that are needed for helping them. No, there's a there's a possibility. I don't I don't know what the accounting of that money is and it's not my business, but you would assume that probably at least some of it is going to go into charitable causes. It's not. I don't. I don't see that as like how the family made 14 million dollars like Alex is trying to present. There will be plenty of things done in you have to his honor with that money. Yeah. Yeah. So the Alex gets a caller that this next caller pretty pretty impressive. I'll say okay. I don't know if I don't know if I agree with everything the scholar says, but where he starts pretty good. People talk about systematic racism in America

and they don't really like, I don't hear no leaders or nobody talk about this as far as how generational well black people was never got a chance to experience generational wealth because of what we went through throughout the history of America. Yeah. And that's really what's causing me. What's the effect of what we say right now in black communities and you know, so the bad things that we go through. I agree with you is that it's the sandwich. Well system. That's why Trump has talked about tax credits for black businesses that are new to not pay taxes for say 10 years. What? Of course you have it. That's what Trump has been proposing. They're trying to block it.

Trying to block it. When what? Yeah, also 100 percent eating. Yeah. Okay. Are you telling me that he got a molar removed and now he's eating something that is very clearly chewy. That is something that he is. He's not sipping a drink. That's that's something still in there. That's true. That is an egg roll. If I ever heard what that's suspicious. Yeah. Also not charging these businesses tax for 10 years is not the same thing necessarily is solving the problem of how black wealth has been attacked and destroyed for generations. And more importantly, I can find no evidence that Trump suggested this or is good God. No. And let me ask you, George, do you believe for a second that people like Alex who think affirmative action is a brutal attack on whites

would hear Trump come out and say that black business owners don't have to pay taxes for a decade. But white business owners do and they're responsible like that's a great idea. Yeah. No fucking chance. Yeah. Alex would call that globalist reparations or some shit and then it's a plan to keep the white man poor. Alex just made this up because he's eating and he has absolutely no response to the very real point this caller is making. So he decides to make something up that he should be totally opposed to. But Alex thinks will placate the caller and be like, I haven't heard about that. Of course you have. Of course it's not real. Did you hear that Trump proposed giving every black person a hundred thousand dollars tomorrow

and Democrats are trying to block it. Your mouth doesn't sound full enough. So your impression is off. So Alex gets another caller that caller had nothing to do with like being formally on the left. Sure. It was more just about this point. Yeah. But this this caller is apparently a creature of the left. Oh, hey there. Can you get your mouth shut to let me get my point across quickly? Well, you sound like a nasty leftist, but go ahead please. You called me. Well, I just can't believe you. Hold on. I got an onion ring right here. They went and got me from one of my favorite places called Dan's. So while you sit there and talk, I'm a designer. You're going to eat anyway. Yeah, that was pretty obvious. Yeah. So this caller is, you know, is of the left.

Even an onion ring with an open molar. Are you shitting me? That is going to really sting. Yeah, you're going to get dry socket. If that's gonna be real bad. So bullshit. So this caller goes on and this Mike down for this because this is a ride. You know, I've done a little research into your info wars and what happened to the old firepower news? Where's where's your old the black anchor? Huh? You're racist. That's right. I'm very, very racist because we ended up not with firepower news due to lack of crew and we've been trying to hire more crew and it still hasn't worked out. That's why for at least a month or two, we're going to have to suspend doing the latest show. We're doing Barnes. The show is very popular. We just haven't been able

to hire the crew or get the crew. We're probably going to suspend that for about two months until the election so we can bring a countdown America back with Barnes and of course I'm being racist against Barnes as well. We've had a big crew problem getting enough high quality crew in here to run the show. So if I hire a black guy and have him as a guest and then we do a show as a test and then we have to stop the show for a while, that is inherently bad. So I mean, this is like real weird leftist ideology. You're like calling in to say that I've engaged in an evil racist act. Tell me, tell me more about what I did. I'm just, I'm totally messing with you. I follow the issue. I use bodies. I use it Tuesday. It's all awesome. I was just that.

All right. I appreciate your call, Jack, but we're not trying to make jokes about this. So that's lame. Yeah, but this caller who thinks they're pulling a stunt accidentally kind of highlighted a bit of proof that Alex is making stuff up to cover his own racist ass. So this caller jokingly accuses Alex of being racist for stopping the show Firepower, which featured his only black on air talent, Will Johnson. Alex claims that he stopped doing that show because they couldn't find the crew. It's just a crew thing. But in his defense, he actually disproves this his own claim while he's trying to defend himself. Alex disproves this. Barnes's show started after Firepower ended. Whatever crew Barnes is using could easily be handling Firepower.

So the crew excuse just doesn't work. For some reason, Alex did not value Firepower as much as he values the possibility of doing another show, but it gets worse. The other host of Firepower was Tom Pappert. If you go to band.video, you'll see an entire section of the site dedicated to Tom Pappert and his dumb blog national file. Will Johnson, the other host of Firepower, still runs his own thing called Unite America first, which there are no links to on band.video. None, none. Will's great. Will still has his own YouTube channel and he's posted stuff that sounds really Alex Jonesy as recently as today. There's absolutely no reason that his self-produced content couldn't still be platformed on band.video unless there's another reason that Alex isn't

doing so. I can think of one. I'm not saying this is proof of Alex being racist, although he is, but it definitely calls into question the argument that he didn't have the crew to keep Will around. Meme World, Tommy Robinson, David Ike and Caitlin Bennett, they all have pages on band.video, and those are just third-party produced content. So it's really suspicious that Will Johnson doesn't have a page himself. It could be a personal thing. I can imagine Alex sucks to work with, but I don't believe the crew thing at all. And honestly, I think that what happened was one of these Trump rallies. Will Johnson was the guy who got interviewed by like CBS News, and then it got really embarrassing. When everyone pointed out that was an info wars

reporter that you interviewed and he didn't like announce himself as an info wars reporter. I think that was really not good. And maybe Will Johnson was like, I look if it's going to be bad for me to express my opinion or whatever, I don't want to be associated. I could see that being the case. Honestly, my first thought is less anything to do with Alex, because I think he actually would really love having a black host that he probably, you know, do the whole thing with. But it's probably more an indictment of how racist info wars viewers are. How could you can sustain a show that, you know, nobody's watching because everybody who on info wars is a fucking racist. I don't know. Ask Owen. Yeah. No one watches his shit. That's fair. That's fair.

That is fair. You're right. Never mind. Alex is a giant racist piece of shit. I don't know. It's just weird. Our info wars viewers. It's a whole team. Look, dude, I would say that based on viewership and whatever you're putting in versus what you're getting out in terms of ratings and all that stuff. You have every reason to cancel that show. Yeah. I if you're just using it on a straight calculus. I don't see that being a racist decision in and of itself, although not canceling Owen or David Knights shows probably a little sketchy, but they've been around forever. So you know you could grandfather them into the allowed to be bad ranks or whatever, but it's more notable to me that he doesn't have a page on band dot video and it Tom Pappert does. Yeah,

I think it's a little. That's a little strange to me. I think you're very much right now. The only thing that makes this really suspicious to me is this clearly fake excuse about we didn't have the crew. Yeah, that's bullshit. That's nonsense. That to me is like. Okay, Alex, that's nonsense. Also that gag was the most predictable thing ever. Yeah, that dude playing a little character. You hear that voice and yeah, come on, man. Yeah, trying to get leftists and former leftists to call into his show doesn't work. You just get people who think they were leftists because they supported anti war causes until a war started and info wars of fans pretending they're on comedy bang bang. Yeah, it's ridiculous. Yeah, it's I would be very surprised for a leftist to call in and then

provide Alex a platform to advertise his other shows and do so very quietly and patiently. So in this next clip, Alex gets another caller and this guy has some suspicions about Mike Pence, because Mike Pence is apparently too kind and too nice to bootage. Sure. Pence has said good things about booty judge. Well, yeah, like when bootages was getting up in the polls, you know, they asked friends about a couple things that bootages said and he just said that he was like a nice guy and that they had worked together on a couple different bills, you know, and I'm not saying he should talk bad about him or anything. But like, I don't know. I just don't know if I trust Pence because I mean, honestly, I feel like

if Rand Paul was the vice president, more people would come to his base, you know, I like Rand Paul more than Pence. You say you're a Democrat Republican. Tell us about that. Alex is still eating. This is another call. How much is he going to eat today? This is this is bad. This is three colors long that he's been eating. It's tragic. Hey buddy, don't worry about Pence. He still wishes that bootage would die and God would smite him. He's just a nice guy until then. I it's ridiculous. So Alex asks like, you know, you used to be used to be on the left. Sure. What do you what? Where I what happened? I just feel like right around the time of Benghazi and what are we doing? What are we fucking doing up to how Obama just really wasn't saying what he meant?

You know, he was just kind of I feel like he was just reading lines and stuff and then well he wrote around that. Some came out with the birther thing and it kind of just woke me up a little bit. Wow. Wow. Cool. Oh boy. You know, pooh boy, Benghazi, huh? A lot of people do in Benghazi birtherism. There is him in Benghazi two bees. It's interesting that this sort of like unofficial poll. It seems to be showing that a lot of people lost their minds around Benghazi. That seems but it makes sense. I mean that was like a an incredibly full court press kind of thing from people like Alex, all the the right wing media. So it makes sense that it would have been like an effective campaign for them, but maybe maybe it's something I underestimate a little bit

in terms of like having a real transformative effect on a lot of people or if you were into birtherism, go fuck yourself. Sure you were already maybe. Maybe you weren't that great to begin with. Yeah, maybe if you found that persuasive, maybe that means it's you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a yeah, yeah, like when Biden in the seventies was like segregation is probably fine. You know he's not on the left. So in this next clip, Alex is trying to get to Steve Pechenik, but skype ain't working. Alex cannot figure out how to use Skype. None of this is astonishing. Yeah, that's the only thing that makes me believe the crew for the crew thing is he couldn't even have a crew for his own show. Well, they're there. They're just not good. Yeah, he does actually

complain. That's like we get these people who apply and then they find out that it's Alex Jones and they say no. What a surprise. Yeah, what a shock. I'm not working for you. Get the bug out of here. So instead of talking to Steve, he does an entire segment pitching iodine. The new one, there's not even enough money in it to do 40% off or 50% off. So here is the new write up. It's finally here. Introducing the new survival shield X2 spray available for 33% off 1995 intro pricing at infowarstore.com. Listers have been asking us for months to develop an iodine spray made with our exclusive deep earth crystal, nascent iodine. After extensive development, it's finally here. They're introducing the first of its kind nascent iodine spray made

with true atomic iodine. Our proprietary new aerodyne technology allows us to harness the full power of ancient iodine crystals from below 7000 feet in the Earth's surface in the ultimate spray formula. I've been using X2 spray every day the last few months and I really feel good. I it's so weird to hear him do like a straight straight ad like off a page. Yeah, but it's also weird how it has that testimonial there. I've been taking it for months and I feel very good. Yeah, that was also on the ad copy. Yeah, that was not 100. Not him breaking into editorialized. Yeah, definitely. Oh yeah, very suspicious. So we get to Steve man. How's Steve doing? Well, I missed him a little bit just because, you know, I think we should

defund the government and only fund the police. I mean, he does want to break down the entire State Department pretty much everything about government. I can't imagine why he wouldn't be in favor of police departments shrinking, but whatever. I just think that he usually is the kind of kook who really swings. He takes hard swings. He does and he's cranky and sometimes he yells at Alex. Yeah, so there's there's an unpredictability to his appearances on the show that I can always appreciate. This isn't the best appearance, but there are a couple things in here that are kind of interesting, I think worthwhile. And here is Alex saying hello. Next. So that's the that's the setup. Yeah, well, we got going. What's he gonna pull next?

Here's what Steve has to say about the entire situations going on in the world right now. What we're really witnessing is a mad magazine version of agitation propaganda. And the reason I say that with a smile is because I'm crazy is not very bright. Neither are the leaders of the Democratic Party. And what you're seeing is a parody of what agitation propaganda is supposed to be. People like myself who've been in the business of agitation propaganda, we normally create all kinds of disturbances and send things on fire. And we know exactly what it is we want to do. We want to polarize the country to the extent that police force comes in and basically engages that populace in some form of covert or overt warfare. In this case, it's a complete

disaster. Or maybe that's not what's happening. Maybe your analysis is completely off. Also good to know that you went in and set fires in order to get police to beat up populace various countries. Good Steve. Proud of you. Proud of Steve goes into a McDonald's like this is the worst Olive Garden I've ever seen. I can't believe these people are trying to do an Olive Garden in here. I can't believe how incompetent they are at salad bars. Exactly. Where are the breadsticks? The breadsticks? What are these? What are these potato things that I'm seeing right here? It's like saying if this were agitation propaganda, it's being done terribly, but then you take the if off it. Yeah. So good. It works. So Steve discusses this idea that, you know,

this is all just agitation propaganda. And he has one reason why this is a bad move. In this case, it's a complete disaster. Number one, George Floyd is the wrong example to deify or to make the key element of agitation propaganda. Number one, he's the felon. He's a career felon. What happened to him is unfortunate, but it happens to all the felons and whether they're white and black police have to do what they have to do. That argument is not good so far. Apparently police just have to kill felon. They got to do what they got to do it. If you commit a crime, you got to die. Yeah, that's the real felon. Got to die. It's not your fault. It's not your fault. You committed a crime and now the police kill you. That's just normal behavior

that we should. That's really fucked up. Yeah, that's super fucked up. So beyond that Steve's argument that Floyd is the wrong victim to start an agitation propaganda campaign on might also be evidence of two things. One that this isn't an agitation propaganda campaign. That's fair and two people aren't just mad about George Floyd. This was a clear and flagrant example of something that had been a problem for a very long time and it represented a tipping point for a lot of people demonizing George Floyd may feel important for the right wing propagandist ding dongs, but it's really missing the forest for the trees. Floyd could have had every drug in the world on him and been arrested as many times as you like in the past. It still doesn't really

affect how inappropriate the police actions were and how they attempted to sweep it under the rug dwelling on whether or not George Floyd was a good enough person not to be killed is the definition of missing the point, but it's crucial for people like Steve and Alex because on some level I think they have to recognize that the protests are having results and I imagine that that makes them very scared. They don't really like it. The best trick that they can think up is to attack the murder victim that they think that this is all about, but it's not going to be effective in any way. They can probably harden their base up a little bit with this and make them feel better for hating the protests and the protesters, but I can't imagine anyone who

understands what's going on being swayed by this at all and seeing it as anything other than like a complete disconnect from reality. And if you want to play this game, choose another person who's been killed by the police. Shit to choose a fucking Philando Castile. Choose a mistake in Minneapolis. How many oh do we have in Minneapolis? Yeah, I mean that that's the point. Sure. Yeah, that's the the situation more realistically put and Steve obviously couldn't say that about every single person. So yeah, I don't know. I think that Steve's a dumb dumb and this is stupid, but it's a way to try and use the veneer of his like psych warfare nonsense to apply to the situation. Be like this is a classic old ring a ding used to do this all

the time back in Honduras or whatever right, you know, and it's just it's just meaningless. Well, and it's even it's even more dumb because that opens him up to okay fine. You think Floyd is the wrong person. Who's the right person and then you go down the fucking list right and your point is made. Well, you know, well, yeah, certainly that that's one way to put it. So Steve believes that all the old suspects are in the mix trying to create this agitation propaganda. Oh, Democrats came in the Obama people who are total sociopaths and quite ignorant really in how to create agitation propaganda. Are you ever see a mirror buddy from the covert part? You've got the CI elements, you got the FBI elements, you've got some of the other elements

within our deep state, which is you guys explained quite well. Now, let me tell you who the leaders are. None of that means anything. Nothing. So now you want to know who want some of the leaders? I want to know who some of the leaders are. Now, let me tell you who the leaders are. First, you have Alan Sharpton. What? Reverend Alan Sharpton. Alan Sharpton. Everybody knows you ever heard anyone call him that and you haven't and you never will because his name is short for Alfred. Yeah, he's gonna say that's not his name. What are you doing? Yeah, come on, Steve. Oh man, do better. You're doing

a very bad job of agitation propaganda right now. Better, Steve. Go write a book about Alan Sharpton. Pretend Tom Clancy wrote it. Yeah. Anyway, in his next clip, Steve suggests something really troubling and it's couched in what begins kind of like sensibility. It's it's bad. The Secretary of Defense saying Trump's wrong and maybe Trump was wrong to say insurrection act. He is. You know what? He may have been wrong, but his job was to keep his mouth quiet. So they're expressing the Trump may have been wrong to want to use the insurrection act, but Mark Esper should have shut his fucking mouth. Of course, you don't criticize anybody in power. You don't want anybody in positions where they can make a difference to say something when

something clearly wrong is being done. Wait until you retire and you've written a book. Duh. And then eventually say you were following orders. Of course, make yourself feel better because nobody ever remembers the Nuremberg trials. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I don't know. I honestly don't understand the perspective of like, yes, the president was considering and talking about doing something that would be dangerous and is completely wrong, but you should let him do it. Well, of course, because he's the president. He's your boss. Yeah, that's all you know. Can you imagine them making that argument in any other circumstance where it's like fucking fall in line? Yeah, absolutely. That's what they do when Benghazi happened. They should have fallen

in line. Shut your fucking mouth. God, I hate these people so much. Right. I hate him so much. Are you gonna hate him more in this next clip? I believe it as the two of them get to talking about Kushner, Jared Kushner, and I think this conversation could be described in one word and that's a medic. No, pathetic. At the same time, he has to reconfigure some of this White House dropped. I don't want to get in the particulars, but he needs people who are a lot sharper like well, he needs to get rid of Jared Kushner, doesn't he? Well, everybody needs family issues. It's a very delicate. I've not been at war with Kushner, but I really trust Tucker Carlson, and he's been on the inside and he tells me that Kushner is literally the worst thing on the planet.

All right. I have no problem with that. I said it up front, but that's his family, but he has to get rid of Jared Kushner. He has to get rid of Asper. He has to rebuild a team that's not based on the neocons. When he brought in George John Bolton, that was a very bad signal to me, and in fact, he had to pay for that for many months later. The issue now is he has to bring an economist and people who are involved in companies where they are big, the Boeing's, the Lockheed Martin's. I don't care about the military industrial complex. It has to come back online. This is wild. Like for people for someone who's a quote unquote respected expert on Alex Jones's show to be like coming in and being like we need Lockheed Martin guys in the administration

bananas. This is wild. This is beyond wild. All of Alex's documentaries include like little selected clips of Eisenhower's speech about the military industrial. What are you guys doing? What is happening? We need to get Asper out and replace him with somebody from Lockheed Martin because Asper dared open his mouth when Trump was going to do something really bad on hinge on hinge. Let's get let's get the Koch brothers. I don't know which one of them is dead, but bring his ghost along to let him run everything. It's just it's it's convoluted. It makes no sense, and I mean I guess honestly the problem is that we're trying to hold on to a little bit of sanity while watching something that's increasingly insane. Yeah, and that's ultimately going to

lead to this sort of friction. Yeah, I was like wait, wait, wait, wait, you don't believe that. No, of course not. What are you doing? That's nonsense in reality. If you were just listening to Alex's show and you believed him at a certain point, you would have surrendered already like you would have given up and be just on the fine. You would be a subject of the tides. Yeah, of whatever is being talked about on the show. So you would literally come to like it's the end of nineteen eighty four. It's the last line. I mean I'm sure that Alex could find some what I don't know some documents somewhere that he could make an argument that oh wait we've been wrong all along the military. Duster complex is good. Yeah, it's actually really good

sure right sure globe. I mean he's already said that globalism would be good if it was all under Trump. Well, of course it was so I don't the problem isn't the methods or anything. It's just the people. It's just the bad people, Dan. Right. They're Satanists. Sure. So look dude, one of the things that we don't understand. No one understands is that Trump gets things done. No, he doesn't strongly disagree. You strongly don't. The reality of Trump is what the Democrats don't understand and people like me and you do understand. He gets things done. He eliminated regulation. He got our economy back on place. But a first time in our history we shot an American rocket. Think of that in American rocket into space from an American site. That means for 40

years with for the first time in our history. We had to use Russian rockets at the cost of seventy five million each shot to go into space in from Kazakhstan. Here's the president of the United States says, you know what? I'm going to make space war and I'm going to make NASA the most important. We're making space war. He called Muskin and said, do it and cut the regulations. He did it. Yeah. All right. You guys, you can't prove that Trump said, hey, you must do this. Also, Elon Musk's rocket stuff long predates Trump being in office. Now that being said, I think you make you responded to a very fitting appropriate thing and that is that the anti-war people presumably are sitting here talking about space war. They're anti-earth war and space war

is fine. Burn the atmosphere entirely and then we only have to fight wars in space because everybody on Earth is dead. Very dumb. Yeah, it's super smart. Also, Steve's lying. That was not the first U.S. launch in 40 years. The last one was in 2011. It's been nine years and the last one was under Obama. The Space Shuttle Atlantis took its last man trip to the International Space Station on July 8th, 2011. That was the third launch from the U.S. that year. If you're including unmanned launches into this, then Atlas five launched on May 17th, 2020 out of Cape Canaveral. So I have no idea what point Steve is trying to make here at all. I don't know. It kind of feels like Trump has gotten so little done that in order to make it seem like he's gotten a lot done is Stooges just

make shit up. Yeah, he is not done anything. You've got you've got deregulation and then and you've got deregulation talked a lot of shit. Yeah, he's talked a lot. Well, I guess he's confirmed the worst number of judicial appointees ever. It been there is that in history. Weirdly, they don't bring that up. I don't think they want people to pay attention to that. That's usually a bad idea to so apparently Trump told Elon Musk. Okay, buddy. Get that rocket up there. Don't think he did. But okay. Well, apparently he did because they have a secret. Let me tell you this. I'm sure you know this. The guys that told me this were in the meeting. I said, This is classified. They said it's okay. You can say they've got a deal him and must actually

in like a year. They've already got robots up on the moon with these 3d printers. And they're already building a base on the dark side of the moon for them for the marshal. And that's what they told you. But that's correct that they're going from that and they're going straight into Mars. That's correct. Okay. So apparently Trump and Elon Musk have a secret Mars base. Trump Trump has tried to build more moon bases on many different album titles in the past. I try you know starship. Yeah, they were they were amazing. Jefferson Starship. There is talk about like built the city on the dark side of the moon. I believe that was the name of the song. Yeah distant down the road kind of conversations about the possibility of building

something on the moon. But the idea that they're doing it now I I'm going to need a citation. I want med beds before we get a building on the moon. Give me med beds. Also I do think that this would be an international incident if Trump and Elon Musk were creating a base on the moon because space is not owned by the United States. There's a cooperative aspect to it. No that's why they're building it on the dark side of the moon. There's no way for Russia and China to get that kind of high level information. I mean unless they were to listen to Alex Jones fucking show others. Yeah or notice from the International Space Station or have a telescope right. I think this is a load of shit probably but it's fun. It is fun. Also kind of makes it

a little bit sillier that Alex got mad that everybody thought that he thought there was Mars bases. There's a moon base. There's a moon base. Yeah. Yeah. Why not. Great. Also moon raker totally real. Definitely. Yep. So yeah I got red flags on this but Alex is not fucking around. Okay. He's very serious. We're back in space. America is going to release all these suppressed technologies disruptive technologies as they're called. That's why a lot of the corrupt power structures are so upset. A lot of other groups are very very excited and I was told by folks that we're in the meetings with the president and Musk and I was told go ahead and talk about it that they've already got a little base on the dark side of the moon. They've got 3D printers ready.

They've got a bunch of other stuff to do a test rocket to Mars in the next couple years. They're just going to announce it and then they're going to have man to go and then the excitement around that is exactly what we need. They've already got the base there. Not it's being built. It's already there. This is already changed within the course of a couple of minutes. Also there's literally no way that Alex would be cleared to get disseminate this information if this were something that was happening. I'm like there's a third guy in a meeting with the president and even musk and they're like hey look we got a base on the moon. Yeah we got 3D printers up there and robots go ahead and go for it. Alex Alex. Come on. Alex we want you. You are about

to randomly talk about this with Steve Pachanik on your stupid radio show after you get mouth surgery and eat a bunch of onion rings. I'm starting to think they don't want to talk about how the protests have already accomplished more than Trump has in office. Yeah that's probably I don't think they want to talk about that. No moon base. These damn protests will not get a moon base. No that's true. That's true in a moon base. It's possible. So this is the end. That's actually the the last clip that we have because their interview sort of winds to an uneventful end and then Paul Joseph Watson takes over for the fourth hour. Great so Alex. I mean he did a half shift and I honestly because of the move and everything

and because Alex is out of studio. I was very seriously considering not doing an episode but what I heard Steve was on. I am like it's the siren song. It's gotta be. I will I inevitably get drawn to it. I know and and it unfortunately didn't live up to what I wanted it to be except for Alan Sharpton of course is that's pretty funny. That's pretty great but in the process finding those those that string of calls was absurd bananas and I was like we could talk about this granted this a little bit of a shorter episode but you know that's how it goes when life is yeah we're giving you a shorter episode or the correct length of an episode according to every other podcast in the world. Yeah perhaps I'm very tempted to get those coconuts and force

another hour out of this but I'm not going to. So yeah I mean I guess I guess the the message that I come away from this with as I look at it through like trying to see Alex within his context I see a concerted effort to try and invalidate the protests and invalidate what he thinks is the core of it while he's missing the point entirely and to me that suggests that he's worried about it. Oh yeah and I mean the the stuff about like really making a big deal out of the guy who shot the guy in the truck you know that obviously is something that does you know the guy should be should have the consequences that they come to people who shoot people. He's an attempted murderer. Yeah but you you know like using that to be like

ah they're all shooting guys in trucks or whatever that's pretty standard Alex behavior that kind of stuff is is pretty pretty normal features but the rest of this I see I see a bit of fear in him and other than that and I think that's what he's expressing when he's trying to get these calls from people who are used to be in Antifa. Yeah I think one he's seeing that you know Project Veritas did this clear bullshit piece. Oh yeah that was a guy inside Antifa and he's like I could do that too just to call her call someone will make something up and then no one does yeah it's disappointing. He doesn't engender a lot of improv students in his audience you know and then the other thing with those calls too is that trying to get the message that like

it's okay to come over here on this side and unfortunately all the examples you get are people who are not indicative of like hey it's cool to come over. Yeah I was fine I didn't think Obama was born here I still voted for him because you got to give it up to a guy who didn't even who wasn't even born here becoming president and then Benga's and then Benghazi and what yeah why is Benghazi such a thing for people who knows I don't know so we'll be back on Friday but until then Jordan we have website we do have a website it's knowledge fight dot com yep we're all on Twitter we are all on Twitter it's at knowledge of right now go to bed Jordan we are also on Facebook we are if you could please find a local bail fund or charity in your area to help take care

of people we'll be back but until then I'm Neo I'm Leo I'm DZX Clark I am Alan Sharpton Andy and Kansas you're on the air thanks for holding so Alex I'm a first-time caller I'm a huge fan I love your work I love you