Knowledge Fight - #446: The Super Alpha Male Championship

Episode Date: June 19, 2020

Today, Dan and Jordan ease back into the recording with a bit of a wacky Infowars outing. In this installment, Owen Shroyer found a replica WWE championship belt and decides to hold an office-wide pus...h-up contest, which of course Alex has to derail.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys knowledge I'm a huge fan and love your work knowledge fight knowledge fight I love you hey everybody welcome back to knowledge fight I'm Dan I'm Jordan we're couple dudes like to sit around drink novelty beverages and talk just a little bit about Alex Jones oh indeed we are Dan Jordan Jordan quick question for you what's up what's your bright spot today buddy here's my bright spot yes I am moved into this new apartment I know that I am I am madly in love with I think I mean it's too early to say really to get over committed but I really I really like this place and the move was smooth I'd like to thank everybody out there who sent such kind wishes of a of a
Starting point is 00:01:28 smooth move and painless transition appreciate it very much but that's not my bright spot what's your bright spot my bright spot is I have finally got something in this apartment that I have been unknowingly looking for for my whole life that is a signifier of adulthood what's that a junk drawer a junk drawer yes you do not have a junk drawer I've never had the past had a junk drawer what do you what have you put in your junk drawer show so far I so far so far I have all sort of stuff all right we're talking about some aluminum foil we're talking about plastic wrap we're talking about socket wrenches useful we're talking about a screwdriver wait you're not yours aluminum foil is in your junk drawer aluminum foil is a daily use man it's the extra one for
Starting point is 00:02:14 once I run out of this one now you're now you've sold me two old cell phones that are completely dead those are in the junk drawer that is can't throw away a couple of rocks from back when I had a a jeweled rock phase yeah good rocks beautiful rocks yeah yeah yeah powerful rock yeah exactly a deck of playing cards okay always got to be in a job there's there's always a playing card somewhere when I when I lived in all these other places I didn't have enough drawers to actually have a dedicated place right so I kind of just put stuff in a box and toss it in a in a closet and I didn't realize how much like it would be gratifying just have a drawer that I pull out like well that's got all my junk in it and it is something that I associate with being an adult
Starting point is 00:02:58 like it's something that every grown-up house has like sure my parents were against clutter and everything but they absolutely had a junk drawer of course in pretty much every house yeah I didn't realize that it's it's great I now feel complete yeah you're you're welcome to the the club of colonialists I guess thanks how about you what's your bright spot my bright spot Dan is I well actually this is I was going to have a different bright spot but I got to ride the train over here Dan and I haven't ridden the train in such a long time yeah I've been at your old place I could walk to yeah it was pretty close we're a little bit further apart a little bit further apart and it's just it's so normal it's so gratifying he used to ride the train every
Starting point is 00:03:43 single day yeah every single day it still requires a bit of safety on your part but yeah I'm glad I'm glad you can do that it's nice experience experience the wobble wobble the the L I love that I love the L yeah I hated it when I first moved here I was really scared it was going to derail every time I rode it you're probably took like four years for me to get comfortable with it really yeah part of that was that when I first moved here all of my jobs were downtown I lived in Lakeview and for those of you who aren't in Chicago there's an express bus that runs on Lakeshore Drive from Lakeview to downtown that takes like five minutes to get there so I never had to take the L I could always just take that to work right and the only times
Starting point is 00:04:25 I would need to take a word for like going to shows and stuff sure and I'd be drunk yeah yeah that'll that'll smooth things out going down yeah this brown line is going to crash right into that botches that's that's odd the the very first time that I took the the L I was 17 we were up here for a New Year's Eve celebration and on the way back somebody was very very drunkenly threw up on another guy sure and then you're on the red line it was actually the it was the green line all the way out and vomiting is such a red line guy in the car up ahead of us got stabbed whoa so yeah that's a while and that was my first experience love it it's a place of wonder and excitement for a small town kid you know what the weird twist for me is a little bit what I actually
Starting point is 00:05:16 really enjoyed the L the first time I took it because I came up here with with a then girlfriend to go to another for a mutual friend of ours wedding in Chicago and it was the first time I'd come and we took the L around and I had none of those fears there was something about like I live here now that made it scary to me whereas if I was visiting I was like I don't know why I'm just a boy from Missouri coming up to the big city it's all an exciting and vision yeah my brain dealt with it differently that's weird well congratulations on coming back to the the train yes the mundanity of life yes so Jordan today we got an interesting thing to go over it's not an episode of Alex's show because I should tell you this isn't helping the rumors that I am Alex Jones and by extension
Starting point is 00:06:00 I'm also Bill Hicks but the entire time that I've been moving Alex has been out of studio again this is a disturbing pattern this really is a disturbing pattern yeah this has been regular it seems to happen more than I would like I'm comfortable with anytime you're like I think I'm going to take some time off yeah is like well I mean I got to take a vacation to now nobody's listening anymore I put him on time out a couple months back and then he was out of studio that was super weird yeah and then yeah now Monday Tuesday Wednesday all was Owen Troyer hosting Jesus and then today as we're recording on Thursday David Knight was hosting and so like we have no Alex to do yeah so what I decided I wanted to do was because you know it's the first
Starting point is 00:06:41 episode we're recording this new apartment I was like all right I can take back that whole thing about not doing project Camelot episodes I was like come on carry save me and I went to her YouTube channel and she's already switched to the paywall of course there's no new episodes on there now that I said I'm going to respect her her paywall and intellectual property sure so it's like all right fuck yeah Jim Baker Jim Baker's our boy he's a wall to he's a wall to yeah news just broke that he's getting sued by another state attorney general but he's been gone from his own show for for the last god knows how long why not so I was like I'm back I'm back to the wall I don't know what to do and actually this is a this is a good time for a shout out like to give a
Starting point is 00:07:27 shout out to Danny who wrote me a message on Facebook and alerted me to something that happened and is definitely worth our time so that's what we'll be talking about today all right he watches some of the other shows like let's say the war room oh no and so know some things that happened that would slip past my eye and this is one such thing that is definitely all right so we're going to be talking about what happened on June 12th on the war room oh boy and don't worry it's real stupid that that makes sense to me so before we get into that Jordan though we got to take a moment to say thank you to some folks who signed up in our sporting show so first got to say thank you to Carl in Pennsylvania you are now a policy wonk I'm a policy wonk thank
Starting point is 00:08:11 Carl next this is the person who owns the cutest dogs in the world I guarantee that okay in a no competition thank you so much Molly you are now a policy wonk I'm a policy wonk thank you Molly next Gabriel K thank you so much you are now a policy wonk I'm a policy wonk thanks Gabriel thank you next Louis or Lewis entirely sure could be either M last initial thank you Louis M you're now a policy wonk I'm a policy wonk thanks Louis or Lewis yeah and lufa sniffer ends in an a h instead of an ER okay someone who smells lufas that sounds like it thank you so much you are now a policy wonk I'm a policy wonk thank you very much lufa sniffer thank you next Chris G thank you so much you're now a policy wonk I'm a policy wonk thanks Chris and then this is clever
Starting point is 00:08:55 is it yes okay you are now a technocrat you are now a policy wonk I'm a policy wonk thank you son of a bitch clever I I have to tip my cap yes that's very good yeah that's well done I'd also like to say thank you to somebody who donated on elvid love and appreciate that very much so Kevin are thank you so much you are now a technocrat I'm a policy wonk crikey mate that's fantastic have yourself a brew how's your 401k doing bro all right we got to go full tilt buggy on this Watson all right let's just get down to business we ain't making that money off that heroin why are you pimp so good my neck is freakishly large I declare info war on you thank you so much Kevin are yes thank you very much Kevin and finally I'd like to say thank you to somebody who
Starting point is 00:09:38 went just above and beyond and so we're gonna bat for the cycle in terms of drops today oh boy and so I'd like to say thank you to industrial robot thank you so much you are now a rector princess I'm a policy wonk four stars go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant I'll barbecue your ass it's over for humanity you're a beautiful soul you're coming for your balls well I piss all over your god very few people crap in the pool unless they're babies I piss all over the state make it a practice of calling people pieces of garbage when they are coming as you see fit thank you so much industrial yes thank you very much industrial robot if you're not there listening you're thinking hey I enjoy this show I'd like to support with these gents too you can do that by
Starting point is 00:10:19 going to our website knowledge fight calm clicking the button that says support the show we would appreciate yes we would like it very much or you can take that generosity pay it for sure take it take it to a charity bale fund did you see in my eyes that I was scrambling you yeah there was the wheels were turned it oh yeah you know what was happening what's that the word paper mache was in my head well that'll do it know how to make it work for a make a paper mache something and then send it to a charity I tell most people feel about paper mache in general nobody knows how to make it work that shits alchemy fair enough yeah so we'll get down to business on this episode but first Jordan we got to check in with the year of the
Starting point is 00:11:01 all right so we we've hit the ground running yeah this new apartment new apartment yeah we are now six hundred celtas one day no 128 celtas okay all right and what I did is I wandered around to a couple of the corner stores around here sure get acquainted with the neighborhood check things out and I managed to find a place that had the sand Pellegrino essenza a lucy single cans all right all right so I don't want to buy a full box of them no too expensive course and I might not like them it's possible I can't take that kind of risk no absolutely this is a Pellegrino line of sparkling waters and I got to say they all knocked it out of the fucking park all good they're all very good all very yes oh geez I have tried three of them so far and we got to one that is the
Starting point is 00:11:51 blood orange and black raspberry coming in at a seventy eight seventy eight is good that is very good that's high praise we got lemon zest all right it's actually I think the name is lemon and lemon zest which is redundant but it's very good that is also a seventy eight okay all right and then the third one was tangerine and wild strawberry 79 79 just a little better than the other two neck and neck all across but I didn't feel like it broached the eighty point sure sure so those three I recommend very highly and then also I wanted to say this just a little special note so I went and I got this brand pure aqua P you P you are right it's a white grape flavor why are we turning conspiratorial what tone is going on right here it's apologetic
Starting point is 00:12:35 it's a fifty out of a hundred it's a fifty out of a hundred but I want to make clear that I really like white grape sorry are you apologizing to white grape the flavor and not pure yes almost on behalf of pure you are apologizing to white grape for fucking it up I'm apologizing yes to the institution that is white grape flavored things because I think it's a good flavor I don't generally like regular grape but I do enjoy like a sparkling white grape saying or something like that isn't that just a regular grape that's peeled it doesn't have the peels in it whenever incorrect okay whatever I think I don't know I'm not sure but there is a different flavor to it and maybe there's not and I'm just stupid I don't know I have a long history of liking white
Starting point is 00:13:14 grape things and that one was not good poorly executing all right my apologies to white grapes yes yes our condolences yes so Jordan we're going to start our observation and investigation here actually on June 11th okay because Owen makes an announcement on the 11th that will have implications for the twelve if we're not removing a goddamn computer chip from somebody by the end of this year I am burning this new apartment oh you're not because we're not that isn't going to happen and I don't want my house to run down again not this house anyway here's another context drop from today so yes I did just leg drop Alex Jones from the top of the news desk okay okay all right all right okay so that gives you some idea of where we're going top of the news decks that's not
Starting point is 00:14:03 that high it's not it's not nothing though that's true that's true so here we're going to start on the 11th uh with Owen making a big announcement all right ladies and gentlemen what you see here in front of me is the super alpha male championship belt the super alpha male the infowars super alpha male championship belt that I now present here on the desk so Owen has a wwe belt oh god what are we doing so there's something important I need to point out about this belt that Owen has for the alpha male championship all right it's actually a dairy queen crown I wish the belt that they're using is not a generic wrestling championship belt it is a replica of a wwe belt but it's also a very specific belt fans have been pretty vocal in their displeasure with some of the wwe's new belts
Starting point is 00:14:57 particularly after the brand split where wwe started running two shows weekly as separate products with separate rosters right each show raw and smackdown have their own championship belts which follow a branding scheme for each show the belts on raw are generally red and the ones out smackdown are generally blue to fit the marketing the belt Owen has on his desk is from smackdown but it's also one of the tag team championship belts the design of the men's solo belt belonging to the universal champion is very different from the tag team straps so this whole sketch Owen is setting up makes less sense than it already did there should be a second belt I'm it's a tag team belt for some reason I'm relieved because I really thought we were going to find
Starting point is 00:15:39 out that Owen had chosen a specifically racist wrestling belt of some sort like the history goes all the way back to the beginnings of segregated wwe wrestling like that's what I was expecting but just that it's a tag team belt that's a little bit of a drop but it's a little bit of a let down for me interesting so no are we going to find out this is the racist belt god damn it dad the current smackdown tag team champions are the new day one of the most important black groups in wwe history beginning as they started out as a horribly conceived gospel choir theme team it's the trio big e Xavier woods and kofi Kingston they eventually took the gimmick into their own hands and they really got creative with what they're doing they're currently one of the few groups in
Starting point is 00:16:26 the wwe who actually seem to be having a great time together with their gimmick their gimmick is now impossible to really explain but it involves unicorns torso thrusting Xavier woods playing a trombone cause playing throwing pancakes of people and having their own cereal called booty oh so they have a good time yes okay well that's great and they clearly have quite a large amount of control over the things they do like wonderful Xavier woods named his trump his trombone francesca and that became fantastic fantastic it's yeah so they hold the record for the longest reign in history as wwe tag team champs and are a sure shot for the hall of fame kofi Kingston born in Ghana is the first african born wrestler to ever be world champ winning the belt in a fantastic match at
Starting point is 00:17:09 wrestle mania 35 in the lead up to the match big e and Xavier had to win a gauntlet match in order to get kofi into the championship fight and despite some clunkiness it was all a great story of friends who actually have each other's backs and want to see each other succeed whereas so many other wwe tag teams are just a preamble before one member turns on the other to set up a hot feud the new day has been pretty adamant that they are never going to break up biggie put it this way quote i'm not saying the kofi doesn't get a world title reign without the new day but you don't get that same moment uh that same moment of brotherhood that same story of two guys who have been able to go through the gauntlet to get their brother his title match all the things we've
Starting point is 00:17:49 been able to do the last couple of years that is unique and special you don't get any of those moments we listen to people that say actually you should turn heel or it's my time i should really make this time about me that's not something that even remotely interests us in 2018 Xavier Wood said quote i don't remember a group in wrestling that hasn't turned on itself or they'll turn then they come back to being a group again new day i'm telling you this right now new day will never turn ever and that's because we have zero desire to ever do that i have zero desire to go to work and not work with my friends he went on to say quote we will all retire before we turn that's a legitimate answer that's not some oh he's saying that because it's happening no my
Starting point is 00:18:31 government name is austin watson austin watson is telling you that this is the truth thank you they love each other right all right it's pretty clear that they are really good friends that's great really enjoy what they're doing they're allowed to express a creativity the branches into like some of their nerdy interests like Xavier Woods is super into video games and he started the show called up up down down where him and other wrestlers play video competition game competitions against each other of course it's spiraled into like massive popularity naturally and so like it's just a really great they were a really great team charming talented cool fun great in enjoying every moment of their lives wonderful great yes yeah the new day is a really
Starting point is 00:19:13 great story of three friends doing something great together in a shitty company full of horribly sexist and racist tendencies if i had to guess i would bet that oan has no idea that the belt that he's using as a prop what it is or how the tag it's a tag team belt that he's trying to use for individual competition or even who the rightful owners of the belt are it's just interesting to me how it's the worst possible belt they could have chosen to use seeing as they're an explicitly white identity theme broadcast that's where i thought we were going that's where i thought we were going so i think about this a little bit and i realize like aj styles is currently the intercontinental champion and that dude is probably an info wars fan okay all right in 2019
Starting point is 00:19:53 he went on steven crowder's show and the title of that video is quote wwe's aj styles debunks toxic masculinity seems like they should have just used his belt are you sure they didn't do are you sure it wasn't titled performs toxic masculinity i don't know okay or they could have used the universal championship belt currently held by the monster among men brawn stroman brawn seemed like a really likeable guy for a while but back in march he took to the internet to shit on out of work wrestlers who were having trouble paying their bills because most wrestling events were cancelled after the corona virus jesus dude yeah those are both individual belts held by dudes who probably think alex might be on to something the only downside is that the universal champion and the
Starting point is 00:20:31 intercontinental champion are way too close to one world champion that's fair it's a little globalist that is a little globalisty anyway this choice of prop is stupid just because it's a tag team belt but it's also disrespectful to the new day who alex almost certainly thinks our heels because they're not white well yeah that would be the only explanation there it's just bizarre to me the layers of like what you could maybe think is like accidental circumstantial of course suck up there of course it's going to have some sort of connotation that he's not even aware of nothing they do nothing they touch does not with or with racism like everything around them it's it's it's like if king mitis was a horrible racist yeah it's it's i'm sure that uh i'm not sure this but i
Starting point is 00:21:16 would strongly suspect that what happened is that they had an idea for this bit and they just got whatever about yeah and it just turns out like that's the worst belt you could have chosen of course it is could have chosen any of the other ones any belt yep oh man so in this next clip oan talks about what the plan is here here's what's going to happen tomorrow in the final segment and i'm putting everyone here on blast i was going to be nice and i wasn't going to understand what i wanted to razz me a little bit so so here's the deal tomorrow the first ever info wars super alpha male champion brought to you by super male vitality and alpha power at info wars store.com the first ever super alpha male champion will be crowned tomorrow
Starting point is 00:22:03 in the last segment and we're going to be having a push-up competition and i was going to be nice to everybody but you wanted to razz me so i'll go ahead and say it i'm going to kick all your assets i don't know how they got that sponsorship deal oh boy you're telling me super male vitality is sponsored man that's wild somehow they're usually really picky with what they sponsor abc just greenlit this show for a hundred episodes if celebrities did push-up contests they would sell unbelievable ad dollars could be jesus so in this next clip oan is trying to cut a promo about because they're trying to ape the wwe yeah no obviously they're trying to do like wrestling sure sure and so oan is trying to cut a promo about
Starting point is 00:22:45 how he's going to win can you imagine rachel mad out just all the sudden doing this on her show just like why not i imagine she might do it better like we're going to do putin and i are going to have a push-up contest and whoever wins gets to run msnbc for another year i don't know how this works in other news the kremlin owns msnbc you've seen that dude shirtless on a horse he can do a shit ton of push-up i would assume so oh yeah so here oan is cutting a promo and i have i have a probably way too long response to this okay i'll be surprised if anybody here in this building can even do half the push-ups i can do we've had some people float darin mcbreen's name around he's old he's washed up no some people said maybe rob back there can do it too much hair
Starting point is 00:23:29 heavy weighs him down the charisma of this guy there's some ladies back here that get swept up and think oh they like a light as a feather they can do push-ups all day no no no no folks so so there you go so here is what will be my belt in 24 hours this is a tragic approximation of a guy trying to cut a wrestling problem is not good because oan isn't saying shit he's just saying that he's better at push-ups than the people in the office like darin mcbreen is too old rob do's hair is too heavy and an unnamed woman in the office they're light but they can't top him the thing is that there is nothing here to sink your teeth into there's no passion behind this nor is there any focus which are key for wrestling promos to work one of the greatest promos in
Starting point is 00:24:11 wwf history was from king of the ring 1996 after stone cold steve austin had just defeated jake the snake to win the king of the ring tournament let's listen to this promo and then i'm going to lay out the ways in which this promo is successful and owens is not okay i'm i this is just a back door for to first you get back in studio alex get back in studio i never thought i'd say that the first thing i want me done is to get that piece of crap out of my ring come on don't just get him out of the ring get him out of the wwf because i've proved son without a shadow of a doubt you ain't got what he takes anymore you sit there and you thump your bible and you say your prayers and it didn't get you anywhere talk about your psalms talk about john
Starting point is 00:25:05 316 austin 316 says i just whipped your ass he is stone cold come on that's not necessary all he's gonna do is go buy him a cheap bottle of thunderbird all right stop and try to get back to them courage he had in his prime and said king of the ring i'm serving notice to every one of the wwf superstars i don't give a damn what they are they're all on the list and that's stone colds list and i'm fixing to start running through all of them all right stone cold steve austin and his remarks 1996 wwf king of the ring as far as this championship match is considered son i don't give a damn if it's davie bortsmith or sean michaels steve austin's time has come and when i get the shot you're looking at the next wwf champion and that's the bottom line because don't go set so
Starting point is 00:26:04 so there's music hits at the beginning there stone cold begins by trashing jake the snake because he's you know he's saying he's washed up sure that's kind of a better version of oan just saying that darin mcbreen is old because stone cold adds layers you know to to the words that he's uh saying to impart meaning mm-hmm um jake the snake was a really religious character so stone cold used that to create his austin 316 catchphrase jake was a recovering alcoholic so he brought up the idea of a bottle of thunderbird giving him back his confidence that he'd lost these are ways of saying that your opponent is old and washed up without saying something so boring is just you're old that makes the promo compelling because stone cold is painting a picture with words
Starting point is 00:26:45 instead of just saying them after trashing his fallen opponents stone cold serves notice to the wide array of wrestlers he's getting ready to beat up later this is how you do it when your goal is to pump yourself up against a nonspecific opponent since stone cold doesn't know who he's fighting next at this point this isn't this isn't anything other than just self aggrandizing i'm better than everyone kind of thing uh you notice how he doesn't say like davie boy smith he's old john michael's hair weighs too much no he doesn't waste his time on boring insults choosing instead to make passing reference to them while focus on how he's the best and his time has come that would have been great if stone cold was like and a lot of people think that uh there's a woman in the back
Starting point is 00:27:28 who does away as much as me who can do this and that ain't the truth she's like but i'm better i'm better so in wrestling promos you really only want to talk about shit about somebody else if they're your opponent otherwise things get a little bit confusing promos are supposed to supplement existing storylines in the case of stone cold he just won the king of the ring tournament and was getting a title shot so it makes sense for him to shit on the guy he just beat and let everyone know that it's his time and no one else can beat him well moving forward naturally the flip side of this kind of promo is best exemplified by what i would call my favorite promo of all time the hard times promo delivered by dusty roads back in 1985 at the time dusty had just returned from
Starting point is 00:28:11 an injury he'd suffered at the hands of rick flair he was finally getting a chance for payback so the promo is specifically targeted at rick flair let's listen to this this is ken burns who wrestling i would like to thank the many many fans throughout this country that wrote cards and led a dusty road the american dream while i was down secondly i want to thank jim crockett promotions for waiting and taking the time because i know how important was star k-85 it is to the rest of fans it is the jim crockett promotions and dusty roads the american dream with that weight got what i wanted rick flair the world's heavyweight champion i don't have to say a lot more about the way i feel about rick flair no respect no honor there is no honor
Starting point is 00:29:07 among thieves in the first place he put hard times on dusty roads in his family you don't know what hard times are that is hard times are when the textile workers around this country are out of work they got four or five kids and can't pay the wages can't buy the food hard times are when the auto workers are out of work and they tell them go home and hard times are when a man has worked for the job 30 years 30 years they give him a watch kick him in the butt and say hey our computer took your place daddy that's hard time that's hard time and rick flair you put hard times on this country by taking dusty roads out it's hard time and we all had hard times together i admit i don't look like the athletes of the day supposed to look my bed is just a little big my heart is just a
Starting point is 00:30:05 little big but brother i am bad and they know i'm bad and there were two bad people one was john wane and he's dead brother nature boy rick flair the world's heavyweight title belongs to these people i'm gonna reach out right now i want you at home to know my hand is touching your hand for this gathering of the biggest body of people in this country in this universe all over the world now reach it out because the love that was given me in this time i will repay you now because i will be the next world's heavyweight champion on this hard time blues dusty roads to 85 and rick flair nature boy let me leave you with this
Starting point is 00:31:05 one way to hurt rick flair is to take what he cherishes more than anything in the world that's the world's heavyweight title i'm gonna take it i've been there twice this time when i take it daddy i'm gonna take it for you let's gather for it don't let me down now because i came back for you for that man up there that died jen 12 years ago and never got the opportunity to see a real wolf champion and i'm proud of you and thank god i have it and i love you love you amazing that was just amazing wasn't that the transcript of uh obama's 2004 dnc uh dress wasn't that the keynote out there i'm pretty sure that's the one that kind of faulted it but put us in hot times that it
Starting point is 00:31:59 but even you not a wrestling fan you can recognize the brilliance something like that yeah come on there's there's creativity there's union organizing exactly yeah i mean what part of dusty roads big gimmick was the common man sure sure like you know he's a little plumber son naturally that kind of thing so everyone knows that oan and alex are going to be arguing over this stupid belt so it makes no sense that oan didn't just cut a promo on alex the way that dusty did on rick flair no one thinks that the payoff of this is going to be like oan have a like daria is going to get her ass kicked i have i have bad news about the payoff of this but anyway what works so well about the hard times promo is that it elevates what's at stake about the dusty roads rick flair
Starting point is 00:32:42 fight it's not just about who's champ it's about rick flair injuring dusty and dusty coming back because he loves the fans he connects with the audience and makes the viewer feel invested in him winning he brings pathos to the feud by comparing his being injured and unable to work to the everyday person out there who got laid off or worked 30 years and got a watch he's making himself someone that the audience can project their own feelings onto and relate to you want a root for for dusty and watch him beat up rick flair because he's elevated this into being himself being a stand in for you or someone you know fighting against the cruel faceless business that it exploits us all as represented by rick flair naturally it's a very simple thing masterfully
Starting point is 00:33:22 executed within a matter of a couple minutes you have just like every like just amazing storytelling it's fantastic yeah compare that to what oan's doing he's just saying he can do a lot of push ups so what there are tons of examples of wrestlers who do cocky gimmicks you know the whole thing is that they're cocky sure but they're usually the villains and the whole point of their act is to play up the annoying characteristics of a cocky asshole so you as the viewer really want to see the guy you don't like get beaten up so we're like ravishing rick rude he was obsessed with his body ted db us he always bragged about being a millionaire these were things that they played up to make it more satisfying to see them get their comeuppance in terms of being a cocky heel
Starting point is 00:34:03 oan's even failing the other thing that dusty does amazingly well is that he never says that rick flair sucks this is so important in good wrestling promos because if your whole argument is that your opponent sucks you've ruined the idea of the fight if you're saying your opponent sucks and then you win so what you've beat someone who sucks if you lose then you just lost to someone who sucks it's not a good way to build towards a fight and good practitioners are able to put themselves over and simultaneously put over their opponent they're like hey you know what you're you're really good but i'm better that kind of thing is is essential or as with why what are the stakes here yeah because oan fails to even do this he's basically setting up a boring as hell push-up
Starting point is 00:34:43 contest all of his opponents are trash so why do this yeah i'm going to do twice as many push-ups as the other people in my office is a lame thing to do yeah even if you're not on a radio show it's pretty lame yeah if you're just in a regular office and you were like hey man i bet i could do a bunch more push-ups than everybody everybody be like fuck off you suck but if you're in a radio show that's a million times worse it's clearly a situation where they're like let's do a play on wrestling let's do a play on the wwe and they just didn't think through any of the ways they could make it good well you would have to think it through it's it's shockingly you'd have to start with work and they don't do that right so so yeah some people maybe even you
Starting point is 00:35:27 jordan are thinking that this has gone on too long and they're probably right i only wanted to lay all this out because this is one of the parts of wrestling that i like the most the storytelling aspect of it there are little nuances to how really good wrestlers tell a story through the build of their fights that people often don't understand at all people just think that wrestling is people fake punching each other and then occasionally yelling into microphones and that's pretty unfair also i'm making a big point about this because it's clearly a planned bit they have a replica belt just for this segment oen is announcing that a champ is going to be crowned a day in advance in force has every opportunity to prepare and actually try to do
Starting point is 00:36:04 something decent here and this is what they come up with they're trying to ape the style of an art form they don't understand and have no respect for and it just comes off really embarrassing no no no came off great he's a he's a brilliant broadcaster everybody can listen to that clip of him challenging people in his office to a push-up contest and think this guy has it i don't know what it is he's got it yeah it's not good it's not good i think that probably there's a recognition or some kind of a feeling that a lot of people in alex's audience might be wrestling fans but if they are i don't think they're gonna they would enjoy that oen lazily insulting people that he's gonna have a push-up contest with like they just think like oh we got this prop that's good enough
Starting point is 00:36:48 job done nothing is worse than a corporate entity like taking over and just not plagiarizing just such a disrespect for you if you like wrestling here you'll like this shit right right you're not even good not even trying not even nothing it's just the the approximation of slop on your fucking plate yeah bastards yeah it's tough how dare they so on ends this announcement by bringing in Darren McBreen who he just insults about how he has a bad back again not to belabor the point but what do you prove by beating someone with a bad back in a push-up contest it's it's it's nonsense no it makes him less of an alpha male because you this is debunking toxic masculinity right here that guy has a bad back and so he sucks he's not
Starting point is 00:37:35 going to be a male anymore if you have a bad back you'll never be a man let's consult AJ styles on this I mean like what you end up with like let's imagine that it comes down to Darren McBreen versus Owen shroyer and then Darren wins right sure then or like no let's say that Owen wins right sure Darren McBreen could be like yeah you beat me but you only do because I have a bad back right where do we get we don't get anywhere good no no although that would be great if this was Darren McBreen's flu game this is his Michael Jordan get where it's like he just comes from behind added nowhere yeah starts dropping push-ups left and right I don't think McBreen has it in him flying through the center just oh man Michael Jordan he is not so McBreen just keeps saying
Starting point is 00:38:20 like at the end of this is just like I want you which is uninspired and boring but at least it's not destructive to the concept of the competition they're trying to build towards the June 12th episode of the war room opens up with Owen in a t-shirt and the replica belt on the desk next to him I'm noticing that in fours is getting super into props lately you had the skull chess set and rose thing and then yet Alex's attempt to rile people up with the Robert E. Lee statue and how there's this belt brilliant comes off as a little desperate hey everybody loves props that's why the most famous comics in the world the prop comic stand true yeah you know they also this is the other thing that I think is really fucked up was that the big logo that's on the
Starting point is 00:39:00 screen behind Owen says war war room raw on it oh no that's the sort of shit that would definitely get them sued if the owners of the wwe weren't huge trump supporters jesus christ yeah war if lynda McMahon wasn't the small business administration president for trump that I think that they could probably get and I think as I understand the wwe likes to sue people see now here's my biggest issue with this whole thing all right do you realize how infuriatingly close to a palindrome war room raw is yeah it is really close it's war moon raw exactly yeah it is so infuriating to me how they could do that that fucks with my brain like now that I know that it's a almost a palindrome it makes me so angry I'm shivering with just like
Starting point is 00:39:50 fix it you would have had real trouble with raw is war that's yeah that's you know raw and war yeah and then is is not flippable it's not for raw easy war it's very it's very difficult for me to handle that is tough yeah also tough it's like a slant rhyme it's like get the fuck out of here sure get a job you know what else is tough listening to Owen show yeah I believe that I listen to alex jones every day and I almost always find something interesting enough to robot or discuss on our show with the war room it's a show that's almost unfathomable that it exists it's boring Owens just covering the same talking points as alex but he doesn't pretend he's a psychic or throw in any other insane bullshit that alex does to make the show interesting right
Starting point is 00:40:33 I don't care about anything Owen covers on the show but I did cut out this one clip from when he was taking calls I got some tips for people if you want to try and get in the hospital because I've been in the hospital the entire time my wife has been in critical condition yeah we got 20 seconds all right well make yourself a directive advanced directive and if they're incapacitated you are the person that makes medical decisions for them and you have to be legally allowed into the hospital all right so there you go folks a little inside there also a taser maybe some brass knuckles what I've heard um maybe some lead as well but I've heard that I don't know I'm not saying that works I'm not sure that was shocking even to me wait yeah
Starting point is 00:41:15 that was a mess like I live out shoot your way into a hospital that is what he was saying okay with a taser and brass knuckles he's playfully suggesting that listeners should basically have a lay siege on a hospital for some reason that would normally be a pretty dumb thing but in the climate we're in today this is incredibly dangerous we talked about it on a recent episode but there appears to currently be a little bit of an uptick in people trying to attack hospitals whether it's because of the added impact it would give their political message or because they believe the virus is a hoax and that hospitals are in on it anybody who would play into this the way owen is doing right there is trying to get more attacks to happen there's just no other
Starting point is 00:41:54 excuse for that kind of comment other than the idea that you want your audience to hurt medical professionals I've been spending a lot of time on the wrestling aspect of this show but it's important to remember that owen is a huge piece of shit and this show is just as extreme and awful as alex's yeah it's still stochastic terrorism yeah I mean with a push-up contest well right this episode is largely about this push-up contest and how poorly set up it was poorly conceived poorly executed everything right but it's important to recognize that like there's content like that too oh this is not just some show where they're doing dumb bullshit although it is that also yeah that's important to remember yeah this idea the juxtaposition of them is so fucking insane to me we're how
Starting point is 00:42:37 we're having a stupid push-up content like this would be like if a japanese game show of like like a wipe out also had like nazi propaganda on it like it's just oh man look at this guy toss out there oh and hey everybody by the way it's a good idea to continue eradicating the juice all right next mode next guy up to the thing he's got to oh he gets hit by the things i'd be like red ice if they broadcast from a dunking booth that'd be the very popular are you doing yeah so only tries to get through his show and he gets to maybe about like an hour and ten into the show and it's it's the push-up contest is not really broached at all and he's just wearing a stupid shirt well that's just a t-shirt it's just a t-shirt yeah it's not even you couldn't
Starting point is 00:43:22 even wear a tank top no get into it man get those guns out get into it so at this point oh and it's taking phone calls uh from listeners who are stupid and you know what's gonna happen oh yeah the mainstream media is dividing america by design 110 percent hey yes sir you're i thought you were in a lot of pain from a tooth extraction youth privilege you got youth privilege you think you win this that's not fair i'm gonna win that belt alex there's nobody here nobody here can do as many push-ups yeah well first off i'm already sold just because you're young where's the ref hey somebody put this on me i want to be the winner where is the ref alex is probably pretty it's drunk santa come to play with the push-up toys
Starting point is 00:44:18 hey it's just a belt i want a belt he really wants the belt but he also can't put it on he can't figure out how to put the belt on and it's around his waist and he's like trying to latch the buttons on the back and so he's like someone come put this belt on me so he's basically a morton joe from mad max at this point yeah yeah so alex wants the belt and and oh and doesn't even stand up just why would you got i'm the winner not you okay no you have to do the most push-ups alex i don't need to do that this is by fiat you're like joe biden you're trying to steal a belt oh man you're trying to steal you're trying to steal you're trying to steal a belt right now you're like a democrat this allow you want to mail in mail in
Starting point is 00:45:11 championship one push up mine oh my god he's down he's down jones is down so the guy who's saying disallowed there it's some info or his intern who put on a ref shirt sure sure and he's come out to give some structure to the horse alex can't handle formalities so what he ends up doing all that noise you hear is he fakes trying to attack the ref like he goes up to puts his hands on the ref and then immediately explodes backwards and falls over oh boy it's just an embarrassing silly poorly executed pratfall this like all that's golfing you here there's no actual fighting it's just alex touching the ref and then falling backwards over dramatically and i got to say right off the bat this bit is not going well they know i'm not i'm not a fan so far so far it sounds like
Starting point is 00:46:00 a bunch of assholes on a youtube clip that nobody should have watched in the first place alex wants that belt though yeah no i he feels he feels like he deserves about i think anybody really cares about the belt anymore hold on is the championship belt preserved the elder abuse is going on here my championship belt is being absconded right now alex challenges absconding with the belt he's now running out of the studio he's now absconded with the super alpha male championship belt folks this whole thing has now has now been stolen by the democrats so just like everything else they just they just steal everything you are wearing blue you're yours you might as well be a democrat right now so in that clip
Starting point is 00:46:45 owen as you know he's narrating this yes alex runs off with the belt being chased by the ref presumably this chase should continue through the offices or out to the loading dock but instead alex here here's owens a steal and democrat and he can't resist yelling mail in ballot having broken the seal he decides to casually walk back to owens desk with the belt of course that he proceeds to try to put the belt on his head like it's a crown which he has trouble doing because it's a belt all right okay this is a disaster this is like an elementary school like informative play that they do to teach you about the dangers of smoking and how and they'll do a nice little fun skit about it there'll be a whole sketch and even a three or even a third
Starting point is 00:47:28 writer's like yeah this is fucking lame dude yeah i was in you guys got a back when i was in junior high yeah fire prevention skit of course elementary school got a tour it yeah it was based in winnie the poo yeah i wanted to be e or because i was very depressed right and your spirit guy monotone and you know you know feel like it would work uh i was winnie the poo of course tonight it was not a good casting that would have been worse for me to be tigger but that's true but winnie the poo was i mean i did get a decent oh bother down i was all right but yeah i could like it was one of those weird things like i was in junior high i thought like acting was a path i was going to go to shorter everybody does and even at that point looking back i can remember like the kids were not
Starting point is 00:48:14 interested in what we were doing like i i i could tell that we were you weren't winning them over no not to be fair i mean it was a skit about winnie the poo shit that was written by like junior high kids yeah you weren't at the you weren't at the globe okay you're you're fine right this is a skit that's mostly being improvised by a bunch of you hope yeah yeah if they planned this it's even worse i think this is there i'm giving them the benefit of the doubt that this is just alex's drunk and he's bum rushed on show and he wants to play with the that makes more sense than anything else that's what i see going on here yeah so alex like i said he's trying to put this belt on his head and he's struggling with that see now that's a sentence that you and i just take for granted
Starting point is 00:48:55 yep we're talking about a nationally syndicated radio show who's trying to put a belt on his head and struggling with it forget and we're just like of course national radio host who heads of state listen to yes yes of course and brief the secret service about everybody needs to have lots of good everybody needs to have fun yeah i don't think it would even fit around your head alex i put this on my head please i don't think it's gonna fit you got to go get your corona crown for that it's my corona mask actually oh it does double as a corona mask there it is and it also can be used as a weapon with that that hard i don't care who does the most push ups it's it's a social justice word i think it's mine i want no but you're not a minority so you can't even play that card
Starting point is 00:49:47 baldy fat dudes are not already in this office actually no maybe at the office but in america you're in the majority it's mine it's mine oh boy yeah you guys are great yeah the hallmark of any great comedy bit is just adding in racism that's completely unrelated oh yeah halfway through just be like oh you're not black but yeah it's it's a it's a in fours classic yeah good work guys yeah you have this you have this situation where oh or alex is trying to put the belt on his head it's not working and so he sort of loses track of it and it slides down into in front of his face and so they're riffing about it being a corona mask yeah it's very sad it's just nothing's working it's a low energy it's like alex is trying to bring some chaos into this and make it interesting
Starting point is 00:50:33 but it's just not this is a two man improv scene is okay hi welcome to this bus i'm the bus driver how are you today what's no it's not a bus it's a hospital and i'm a doctor get on the operating table okay so what you're describing is good well great improv great improv so alex still can't get the buttons to work and he decides to deem the belt racist we're still doing this oh yeah we're doing this for a while no you're you're in the majority now it's racist these buttons won't do this well they were probably made in china hell where'd you get this actually i don't know here you put it together for me hold on you crown me are you racist let me see this here back get on your knees right now you notice this forge get on your knees and then crown you
Starting point is 00:51:23 do you recognize this i'm trying to see where this thing was made come on put it together alex i'm not racist on you it is going to feel nice though you're not getting when i'm legitimately holding this and about it i i mean wow you can see this progress is quite well wow they've just decided that this belt must be made in china it might be but i i tried to look it up and i i know that the toy belts the ones for kids they're made by matel i don't know about the adult ones because this is pretty this is a pretty serious pretty elaborate this is like the normal size yeah about those are fucking heavy it's a replica yeah yeah so i don't know where those are made it very well could be in china but i would expect like oan is looking at the
Starting point is 00:52:03 inside of the belt and i know that there is a little tag inside there a little label and if he'd seen made in china he probably would have said aha yeah so i would assume that maybe it's not is that a nice little microcosm isn't that a nice little synecdoche of their lack of curiosity being the center of all of their fucking racism why would you assume the answer to your question is directly in front of you right just notice it or ask yourself a question and then look for the answer instead of just being like right okay made in china don't care well they don't even do that and that's also another really interesting thing that goes back to improv basically like it's unwise for you to speculate that this is made in china because there's only
Starting point is 00:52:43 two possible outcomes one you're right and it's a coincidence or you're wrong and then you have revealed that you assume anything you don't like is made in china exactly and so that it's just not from a game theory standpoint it's not a winning strategy now what you want to do is give yourself a few possibilities as you pass as you can right right make sure you put yourself in a tunnel and back yourself into a corner and that will lead you to where info wars is art which is a very successful place yes so alex still can't get this on and this is going on for a while so now he puts it back on his head okay you've turned it into a face mask now mommy why is there to fucking the tree yeah i could see that see you are you have turned into a democrat i don't know
Starting point is 00:53:38 what happened to you what i've heard it into a democrat i'm gonna stop you're kind of dancing like the democrats too what is happening to you what did you what no chops there oh boy so i think that alex might watch wrestling because the dancing that he does there that owens says is dancing like a democrat it's very similar to the signature dance the big e does of course he knew that of course it is so uh you know it's possible that alex only his only dance move is like a sensual torso thrust sure that could be a coincidence totally but it also could imply that he's a closet wrestling boy and he doesn't want to admit it oh man yeah maybe this is his belt maybe he brought it from home so yeah i am i'm torn on that because the torso thrust is kind of a bland
Starting point is 00:54:24 generic dance move but it is also what big e does right and they make a big deal out of it yeah like it's a thing where like other wrestlers will like join in the dance with them doing their their torso thrust it's a kind of a trademark of the new day well owens response suggests that he has not seen alex dance in any fashion no or knows anything about the new day dance or knows anything about dancing period i i don't think he's you dance like a democrat what does that even mean i don't know what he would hold on now i need to now i need to analyze that sense that just washed over me like that was fine i think i think it doesn't mean anything i think it's just an insult i think it's just a insult meaning nothing i mean i i imagine that there's some sort of homophobia behind it
Starting point is 00:55:09 naturally i wouldn't i wouldn't put that past them but i think i want a book i think more than that it means nothing i think you could dance in any way that owen just wants to make fun of and be like hey that's our democrats right right but now i want him to be i want him to be pinned down on this i want specific moves that are democrat or republican you might i know that the floss is republican is shit i'll tell you that right now you actually might be more right than you think that there's homophobia built into this because of where things go yeah what did you what did you drink some of the fluoride did you watch cnn i just like this belt be honest you watched cnn and now you're you kind of you like don lemon well i mean i did take don lemon for a while what's wrong with
Starting point is 00:55:52 that you like trevor know it too you moved on from don lemon to trevor know are you still upset though that don lemon dumped you church who will put this on me i'm the winner i'm the winner that's not how it works no one will put the belt on him alex deserves this belt um so yeah this should be in a terrarium this should be this should be playing on a loop in a terrarium some thousands of years in the future just to be like look at what prehistoric man was like it does feel very much like it's shocking that this is in 2020 yeah that this this passes for entertainment bananas yeah this is this is chromagon writer's room i can't imagine first of all someone listening fizz and thinking it's funny because it's a disaster no this is awful
Starting point is 00:56:36 second i can't imagine anyone watching this and being like i trust these guys to read these people are who i want to get my information from like i understand that they like yeah you know people like to cut loose hey this is such a this is this is a telling way to cut loose yeah oh man these guys so alex feels like he's entitled to this belt although no one will help him with the straps which is its own kind of indignity that i very sad lasciviously enjoy alex jones too drunk for buttons so he starts riffing about how he deserves all this stuff and then it starts to get into the autonomous zone sure sure why not you need to go to the autonomous zone where everything's done for you this is america for me no literally you go to the
Starting point is 00:57:21 autonomous party delivered here right now so this is not chas and i want food delivered to chas that is this is not chas i'm the port of party delivered here that only happens that magic only happens in chas oh good port of party right here folks there we go alex there's your port of potty from chas hold on guys let's get this shot alex is using the port of potty from chas so at this point the ref appears and gives alex a bag to serve as a port of potty alex places that on the ground in front of owens desk and pretends to shit in it please remember this is a family show family show the unfortunate thing here though is camera angles i have no idea why but there's a weird statue that looks like a roman centurion sitting on the floor in front of owens
Starting point is 00:58:11 desk so when alex squats down to pretend he's shitting in this bag you can't really see the bag and it just looks like he's shitting on this statue it's very now that's funny it's very bizarre now that now we're in funny territory again they pulled it out they pulled it out from the break it's unintentional and i'm very confident saying at this point that this is off the rails this is fully off the rails this reminds me of so many high school parties where everybody is still at high school and having a good time and then there's the drunk guy who's lost his fucking mind can't handle his liquor or anything like that and everybody's kind of looking at like dude just get this guy out of here but there are three white dudes around always egging him on just like yeah do
Starting point is 00:58:54 something else stupid and let's keep doing this and then he breaks some shit and you hate the party and anyways i fucking hate Todd you know what it's like a this is also friday this is last friday and so like it does kind of have the vibe of like an office where people finish their shift and then start drinking but might still hang out at the office right like oh alex is done with his show now owens got to host his show and like he's like i can start drinking in half an hour once my show's over oh man but alex is already tanked and he's just coming in and fucking with it while he's trying to his job that's the vibe i guess well new cares that's fair yeah that's fair alex just pantomime shitting on a bag you know that's pretty great so now alex leaves you didn't know that
Starting point is 00:59:40 this is a fake cisgender white pride event thank you sir this is not yours you want to cancel paw patrol too don't you this is reparations right here unbelievable you would see it you want to cancel paw patrol your calls you want to cancel everything i'm gonna win this push-up contest i'm not how many push-ups either we'll have to find out i guess he's not leaving wow yeah alex isn't leaving wow boy at this point guys yeah guys put a fork in this several minutes ago go home in that clip alex said i'm leaving and he also said to get back to your calls and then starts another conversation about how many push-ups oh and can do yeah so i like trying to end a phone call with my mom um yep this keeps going yep so alex gets to talking about how he's gonna do some push-ups
Starting point is 01:00:33 but there's a catch why so uh you want some more than 100 years you ready you are a social justice warrior let's see no i'm saving up my energy i do five push-ups that's 100 you gotta do it each time that would be ready for this ready 100 200 300 i'm not sure that's regulation i'm not sure that's regulation i'm not sure that's regulation hold on let me see you do one more this one counts to 10 000 all right i don't really care but alex isn't doing full push-ups he's only going about halfway down and his arms are really not in good formation he basically looks like a guy who doesn't do push-ups regularly trying to act like a tough
Starting point is 01:01:27 boy well drunk at a frat party which is basically exactly what's going on that sounds exactly like what's going on that is exactly yeah about push-ups count for a hundred oh man you know when i hang out with people uh you know when when comics and we get together and we start riffing we have a good time we laugh out loud we express joy with each other something along the line these guys don't seem to express joy just like energy like they just have energy that's coming out but it's in like a faux humorous kind of manner there also seems to be a fair amount of tension yeah there does seem to be like i don't like i didn't get the vibe that this was like it doesn't feel like they're having fun no it does not feel like the people who actually own
Starting point is 01:02:10 that belt the day who have a great time they have a trombone man if you just stop being so racist and saying everything is a social justice warrior assumption maybe you'd have a good time that's even convoluted yeah its presentation yeah come on man so stick with the bit at the end of that one you heard oh and insisting alex do one more yes one more got to do one more right it's worth a thousand and so this no ten thousand ten thousand and now we uh we get into that i know you're social justice warriors don't like rules but i'll tell you what they count for all right no no no i win i already want to set some races you got to do one more there nope just one more really yep tell me there's a whooping question let's see it this one counts
Starting point is 01:02:57 thousand all right so the first thing to note is that alex is definitely gassed after like 10 push-ups he doesn't appear to be used to that kind of exertion which calls into question his constant talk about exercising every morning and watching the news and what have you so that weird you weird noise you hear there at the end is oh and jumping off his desk and doing a little leg drop onto alex while he was doing his last push-up it's not a leg a regular leg drop though owen lands with his back kind of in a straddle position his legs with a straddle over alex's back sure and then he gets up and he drops an elbow okay good good it's probably fine but honestly this is kind of dangerous
Starting point is 01:03:39 like alex is not in good shape and no matter what this is a couple foot drop that owens doing landing on a presumably unprepared alex who's facing the ground in a push-up position wrestlers train for a long time and work really hard to do things safely that if you try to recreate will really hurt someone some basic wrestling moves if done for real would straight up kill a person like a ddt that's a normal move it's not even a finisher most of the time and if you gave someone a ddt onto a hard surface you could very easily knock them out and give them brain damage a pile driver could easily kill a person or break their neck even professionals have a hard time with that one so the move is mostly banned in the wwe after owen heart botched one at summer slam 1997 and
Starting point is 01:04:22 broke stone cold steve austin's neck nearly paralyzing him horse play is fun but when you're jumping off uh you know stuff onto the back of a clearly exhausted 46 year old dude who just had oral surgery that morning you're not playing safe man this may not have led to any real issues but the decision-making that leads you to do that kind of thing as an adult is very suspicious it's very suspect wait so alex has been out since then yeah uh dan uh did owen kill alex jones now i don't think so i i don't i don't i i thought about that i considered the possibility that he injured alex's back or something because that would be pretty great i don't think that's the case that'd be very fun that'd be like uh that'd be like uh you know hitley it was hitler who killed hitler so he
Starting point is 01:05:09 couldn't be that bad of a guy like if owen took down alex jones's uh career by by a leg drop i'd be pretty funny it would be it would be i'm more inclined to think that this is something business related like some sort of reorganizational thing or he's got plenty going on could be like something to do with one of his lawsuits or maybe family court i have no idea but i there are a lot of options there are that's probably a sign yeah you're not doing well in life if there are so many possible reasons that you could be i believe all of them yeah exactly and one of the lowest on that list is probably owen's leg drop so owen hit him with the elbow uh and then kicked him yeah and then he starts hitting him with the belt great and this is this is how he uh sort of taunts alex
Starting point is 01:05:55 this is what we do to police in this country how do you like oh my god what are we doing back to blue we kill you alex jones down well that guy just break in there war room is raw for nothing so that makes no sense why is owen saying this is what we do to police in this country is owen's gimmick supposed to be that he's a parody of his own fears of the left because if so that that comment would make total sense but nothing he's done up to this point supports that character or is alex's gimmick supposed to be that he's a cop because that hasn't been established at all however that would help make sense of alex coming in and just taking the belt it could be a civil asset forfeiture angle sure how much fun would that be any of this would be more interesting but
Starting point is 01:06:40 really it's just owen being shitty at this stuff off the cuff and it's confusing as hell yeah why you're saying this is what we do to cops in this country when you're hitting alex jones with a belt in your own shroyer would it's it's a mad lips it's like it's like there's no character work being done it is a it's like the the like he learned the worst lessons of humor from family guy where it's like if you just make a reference to a different thing that's kind of humor yeah you know you can't cut away yeah yeah that's not real life you can't you can't cut to a you know yeah oh that's stupid have a visual gag yeah so at this point alex has been beaten up and he is written off tv of course he leaves congratulations and so owen goes to calls there's more show after
Starting point is 01:07:28 the yep this works for a little while but it doesn't it doesn't really work but division is love now division is inclusion now you didn't know oh i'm being from mississippi i did not i didn't know you were so that was a real attack by jessie smollett to clarify wow to clarify alex has lumbered jesus yes he's lumbered back into the studio and he is now fake hitting owen with the belt in the head yeah oh i should also say alex is carrying a big cup and he is clearly just it's sure he's your shitface yeah that's a real jessie smollett attack
Starting point is 01:08:34 yeah this is great radio so now my autonomous zone you're all off the air like owen's money's mine now let's see what's in here you are very tired so we have one more payment now i got almost a hundred dollars here he is breathing super heavy it's gross he is so gassed he has no cardio he just did a little fake attack on owen and he sounds like he just oh my god it's scary it's almost scary that really is it makes me wonder how he's able to yell for like five minutes straight without falling over yeah yeah so yeah he is beating up owen and stolen his wallet now that's that is he's sitting in
Starting point is 01:09:28 owen's chair jesus as if he's taken over the show nothing better than just a long string of weird old men grunting together and then wheezing promises to steal buddy yeah so here here is where we dismount this is this is the last clip that we have because this resolves itself and one of the most satisfying conclusions this side of breaking bad i will say i will say that standing over somebody and declaring this is my autonomous zone is not bad right that's not bad that's pretty good i think we can bring that into our i'll take that yeah that goes into the lexicon maybe that'll take over for i'm dan this is 2020 i'll declare our podcast our autonomous my autonomous zone right here yeah we'll see um so here's the last clip
Starting point is 01:10:18 and uh alex explains why he hasn't left okay okay all right sorry he's got a guest on i apologize he's got a guest i was worried about this but this is an autonomous zone now i actually can't find my car keys why i haven't left yet i better get out of here free comes in here and text me that matter what comes up in the hour at the moment of course so what's happening now is that owen has gone backstage and put on a doctor's lab coat sure and he's choking alex wow this is this is not ending nope this is real we gotta choke out a whitey we gotta choke out a whitey wait the doctor is now calling people whitey we got a whitey right here what can you breathe
Starting point is 01:11:17 all right we got a whitey now who are you people we got a whitey real folks chalk on up now we took the whitey out now reverse your privilege get out of here the doc says you're racist you're being a white on the show so he owen is now walking alex to the back and that's alex saying this is the highest quality programming ever as he's off camera being shuffled out the door to the production booth all right well this is not this is a family show this is a family show wounded folks i'm wounded i was wounded by alex jones you saw it i was assaulted right in this chair what is happening
Starting point is 01:12:28 i agree i agree with you some of those moans did sound a little bit sexual that was not good it was very especially the mix with the really uncomfortable yeah with the 70s music it was not good no so the first thing here is that that whole choking thing was incredibly disrespectful and blatantly racist in conception and execution yep also it's the second time in like a month that owen is pretended to murder alex by strangulation which makes me think that maybe this is something that's on his vision board yeah well remember the last time when he had the baby mask yeah i think it's on a lot of people's vision board at at info wars yeah that was a very long and very dumb bit but because i've been talking a lot about wrestling i have to give owen a couple points
Starting point is 01:13:07 those moans that you hear are owen selling alex's attack he's remembered that in this established reality they're pretending to be in a situation where he should be hurt alex just attacked him with the belt and beat him up so when he shows back up it makes no sense if he doesn't have some kind of an injury small hat tip to owen for understanding that element of storytelling all right unfortunately that small hat tip doesn't come anywhere near making up for the gigantic jeers he gets for everything else in that segment so fuck him you know because like he came back with the doctor's coat and it was like he was a different character so when he shows back up as himself he's got to be like uh oh alex beat me up it's it's an it's an essential thing that a lot of wrestlers even
Starting point is 01:13:47 forget it's terrible it's so it's so obvious to me like these people have never even talked to human you know like what are you talking we got a whitey talks like like they're imagine just them like the imagination they have of what their their enemy is is just their own like stupidity forced back at them like their own creative says damn talks like that that's what they think the left is sure and it is it's so weird yep so just have never had fun so i think one really main point that i want to bring up is that alex is pretty clearly drunk oh yeah carrying around a paper cup and slurring and i get really worried when i hear him say that the reason he hasn't left is because he can't find his for keys yeah that dude got a d y like three months ago so hopefully the
Starting point is 01:14:38 reason he can't find his keys is because someone hit them and called him a cab because that like that is really fucked up like the idea that he's driving home no he was he was drinking as i can't find my keys glass of whiskey okay that that one they have in case you know in case you can't find your keys break glass that's what that's for that's the whole thing he does that every time i'm not positive that he's drunk but he better hope he is because if that's normal behavior that implies something that is not solved by sobriety that's deeply fucked up yeah that's really really sad yeah so um the right's getting too good at comedy for us hilarious they are really good they're really good that's what i that's what i take away from this is why aren't there more
Starting point is 01:15:22 right wing conservative comics dan uh it's because we're censoring them but i'm sure totally yeah so i thought that this was the payoff okay there is an actual push up contest there's an actual no get the fuck out of here get the fuck out of here yeah it's very stupid and it's over produced with like fake audience cheering and then there's some fake fights after the announcement of the winner who's obviously owen yeah it was really a disaster it's really bad yeah and this is another thing where they fuck up what wrestling is alex and him doing this is the main that's the that's the main event yes yeah if that happens don't even do the push up contest is an immediate let down yes it's pointless yeah nobody cares
Starting point is 01:16:07 it's like darin mcbreen rob do marcos morales and rob do doing push ups gives a shit yeah that you have peaked this this is like giving away a paper view match on the weekly free programming and then i don't know doing nothing on the paper view yeah like it this is bad business yeah it's not good no this is they're not good at this this this attempt to approximate what wrestling is just reveals a complete lack of understanding lack of interest like of awareness like a preparation like of caring yep i could have done something better in an hour yep probably agreed at least come up with like okay here's a coherent reason why this is happening so it's not just stupid chaos if you're going to bring in the belt and announce the day before you're having some kind of a
Starting point is 01:16:55 contest to crown a champion you clearly are at least partially invested in doing this as a bit don't ask me fucking hell man it i resent it i resent it very much at any point in time they could have just come up with any idea yes any idea that would be better than that one yeah especially the idea of not doing it i think that that would be a great i think that that would have been great i think that probably the fact that their info wars means that they don't have access to anybody who could write something better no of course and instead they just decide to dick around and pretend it's comedy thank you alice yes yeah that's true um so hopefully you got home safe you have to be curious and interested and you have to this is where comedy comes from
Starting point is 01:17:35 it comes from curiosity and passion yeah it doesn't come from just being like oh yeah i saw that shit let's toss that out yeah fuck with you yeah it's that sort of thing i don't know was it steve martin was saying like uh if you're really good at comedy you will end up using everything you've ever learned as part of your act yes exactly that was a poor paraphrase but it's something like that yeah and they always tell you like play to the top of your intelligence like you should assume that the people listening or watching whatever you're doing are much smarter than you might want to think yeah and that's always a better path to go and info wars insists on going the other direction because they have no faith in their audience they think they're all stupid yep they
Starting point is 01:18:13 brought up some great points thank you so i will i'll say that this is not at all like the kind of in-depth episode that i'm interested in getting back into doing looks like i missed i missed doing the the show like we haven't recorded since saturday right and i was hoping like to really have a lot has happened certainly yeah um a lot more than a push-up contest john bolden's book apparently involves talk of trump working with g which alex has got to have a difficult time with i would think you know there was that military executive order that trump put through there is the supreme court ruling today just today naturally um yeah i would just think that this is the time that alex needs to be in studio yeah it's shocking that he's gone these are all
Starting point is 01:19:00 stories that are begging for alex to spin you know well i mean ginsberg just beat clarence thomas in a push-up contest too so shit and then he did an elbow drop absolutely yeah and then she approved a another oil pipeline you know so ginsberg shit so i i'm i'm i'm i'm really interested in why alex isn't there and i guess we'll find out what his excuse is when he out whenever he gets back we'll see i mean if he's not back on friday um i don't know i don't know what we'll do for monday but i don't know figure out something get into a fight yeah have a push-up contest yeah let's do it um we'll see what happens but we'll be back on monday and until then we have a website we do have a website it's knowledge fight dot com this it is we're also on twitter we are on
Starting point is 01:19:41 twitter it's at knowledge underscore fight and that go to bed jordan yep we're on facebook we are visible tell us and if you could please find a local charity or bail fund or find people to help in your area we would appreciate that very much yep i will be back but until then i'm neo i'm leo i'm dzx clark i am the seven-time super alpha male champion andy and chansas you're on the air thanks for holding so alex i'm a first-name caller i'm a huge fan i love your work i love you

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