Knowledge Fight - #450: June 25-26, 2020

Episode Date: June 29, 2020

Today, Dan and Jordan check in on how last week ended on The Alex Jones Show. In this installment, Alex desperately tries to attack the idea of wearing masks, promotes his anti-mask rally, and gets humiliated by one of his anti-communist heroes.

I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys knowledge fight. I love you. Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're couple dudes like sit around drink novelty beverages and talk just a little bit about Alex Jones. Oh, indeed we are Dan Jordan. Jordan quick question for you. What up? What's your bright spot today? My bright spot today is peeking into the old mail bag. Got another got another nice piece of mail and Marcus sent us a copy of the Illuminati board game. That's great. The card game. Yeah. The new new version of it not the New World Order one right is the sort of collectible

weird one that has like pictures of Alex Jones. Yes. And Alex thinks predicts the future. It does predict. But yeah, I got it with the nice little note. Hi, Dan and Jordan. You guys are the bright spots of 2020. I'm Dan and this is 2020. Thank you so much, Marcus. We really appreciate it. We will I've been thinking about like we got to try and play that like a live stream. Yeah, we got to do something. But and I was going to say we should do that like now right. But the reason that I'm kind of resistant is I think I need to get another camera because I think it needs to be a three camera shoot. Okay, because it needs to one directly on the playing board. Of course. Yeah, otherwise known to be able

to see the cards that are being played. It's just us talking like idiots, right, which is which we already do. Some people would enjoy that, but I think it's the tenseness of us. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You need the you need the poker cam to show you. I feel like you do. Yeah, of course. So we will I will get another camera because these webcams are actually fairly cheap. They're only like 30 bucks or something. I think I might be low ball and spy and see if your wife is cheating on you 30 bucks. Yeah, so we'll we'll figure that out in the future and thank you again, Marcus. So that's my very much a little game for a game night or something. That's very cool. I would like to do that. I have a you

know bright and dark spot. The bright spot for me, of course, is that I will never read the Atlantic ever again. It's garbage. That means no more Freedersdorf. No more David Brooks. Well all done with it. I've heard this so many times. I know, but this time it's done and I'll tell you why it's not Freedersdorf's fault. Okay, I read a terrible. I made it two sentences through a an opinion piece written by two law professors about William Bill Barr and the first sentence was a lot of people breathe the sigh of relief when Bill Barr was appointed Attorney General because of his competence and then the second sentence was everybody had high hopes because he had previously worked for an honorable administration

and I was like this this shit is done. This is trash. I'm done with the Atlantic forever. It's all garbage. You're like me. You're like me and Project Camelot. I don't believe you at all. You'll be back. You'll be signing up for a subscription. One day you'll be like get mad about something and then you'll Google what is our Freedersdorf said lately and then you'll be right back and then a month after that we'll have another conversation where you say I'm looking forward to a time where I need something to get angry about. I know that you can get angry just about anything, but I think there's a specific sort of anger that Freedersdorf gives you. I don't know that is a drug. It is. It really is. It really is. I just don't think that

normal generalized anger hits that same button for you. I don't know what it is with him. I think part of it is that he responded to your tweets. I think I think a part of it is a personalization. You think because I got to shoot him in the face with some mean words. That means that I'm there forever becomes personal. I think I think possibly that's fair. So Jordan today we get an interesting episode to go over. We're going to be talking about June 25th and twenty six twenty twenty. This is now my autonomous zone and I intended to do a Bill Cooper episode for today because it's Monday. But I might be done with that old asshole. This is the day of large pronouncements of being done with stuff that we will go back to almost. Almost certainly one of the things that I'm sort of

wrestling with is that Bill Cooper's coverage of Oklahoma City doesn't continue like immediately and pretty soon after he ends up going on vacation. Sure. So there's like week a week of like non related shows. So in order to get to the stuff that's actually interesting it might take me a lot longer in terms of digging to procure the materials. Sure. Sure. Sure. And it's really tough for me to motivate myself to put hours and hours into that because you know once the dew is off the lily and you start to realize like this old man shtick is basically just reading his listeners emails and pretending it's intelligence reports. Yeah. That's a bummer. Yeah. You know you. I think I entered looking at Bill Cooper with this sort of sense of him as a legend of like

he's a big name in the conspiracy game and that he would have like actual things to dig into. And I think I think you know you get misled because that first episode that we covered him was about the silent weapons for quiet wars. Of course. And at least that's a fake document. We can discuss that. Sure. I can't do anything with like someone from Oklahoma emailing track down his emails. I can't do anything with that. It's it's really pathetic. Honestly. And I'm disappointed. I'm disappointed. The more I learn about him as a human and then I'm disappointed the more I like get into his actual conspiracy career. There's so much nothing there that I'm almost now just like I don't understand how people didn't like. I don't know. I don't know why

he is a legend. I guess he is some sort of charisma. I'll get back to it down the road. But I don't think it's not feasible to do an episode every week. Yeah. So we'll get back to that one whenever we're able to get back to it. But for now we are sticking in the present day with Alex Jones. All right. And this episode is pretty interesting. I guess. I mean there's a lot of really fucked up things. Well and Alex says a couple of particular things that are just like really continuing this trend towards like I need political violence. Yeah. Need it now. Yeah. We need it now. And then it ends up with Alex getting embarrassed by one of his heroes. Great. So we can all kind of enjoy that. I love that. Before we get down to business on the actual episode though Jordan

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possibly. Yeah. I think that's a smart. I'm not entirely sure where he's going with this but whatever. Okay. So Alex here on the 25th he's continuing his crusade against masks which of course is all kind of a lead up to his protest. The no mask protest in Austin and so that's going to be kind of a running theme. He's going to attach himself to just about everything that seems anti mask that comes up. But now there's a big video that's gone viral that's up on informers.com where it's shown with an air quality monitor that it is dangerous levels of CO2. Owen shroyer went out and bought one yesterday and duplicated the same scientific example but we already know from the studies this is the case. It's killing people literally suffocating them

and so here are those reports back to back. So Alex has found himself another viral video where somebody's mad about masks so of course he's decided this is a scientific study. Gotta, gotta. The video is a guy using a CO2 meter to see what levels of CO2 are in his mask and apparently after like five seconds the thing starts beeping indicating a dangerous concentration of CO2 in the air. Climate change for your face. If this were in any way accurate surgeons could never perform surgery. Scientists and researchers could never be in a lab setting for more than a couple seconds without being exposed to supposedly dangerous levels of CO2. There are a lot of people who wear masks for work like for entire shifts like construction workers. You know,

like I said nurses doctors surgeons dentists. I have seen the greatest minds of my generation suffocate from wearing a mask. Right. That's a it doesn't seem to have a dangerous effect on their oxygen or CO2 levels. Breathing is a really important thing for humans. So I know that's an understanding. Sorry, I understand. Yeah, I understand. So when they're designing masks, that's one of the factors they consider breathing and then consider things like ski masks or helmets that you wear for extended motorcycle rides. There are 100 examples of things that would be essentially impossible if wearing a mask did dangerously elevate your CO2 or affect your breathing in any meaningful way. This is all bullshit. Yeah, there are some concerns about

wearing N95 masks for extended period of time, but most people who aren't doctors or nurses, they don't have to deal with that. And there are specialized masks that help mitigate those issues. It always comes back to smarter people have thought of this a long time before you did. Yeah, you bet. Yeah, you bet. Yep. So Alex wants to touch back on the NASCAR story. Sure. A little bit. Sure. He wants to keep that plate spinning a little bit for no reason. You should just. Oh, everybody loves it. Everybody loves it. No, it's great. But he's continuing to misreport it. And then you get somebody like this NASCAR individual, Bubba Wallace, who got caught within hours knowing that all those garage doors had those pull-down

ropes on them and that they weren't nooses. One of them was and had been there for years. And I typed his name into Google this morning and I saw hundreds of headlines praising him and praising NASCAR and saying that, you know, this is a real threat and that he's right. It's probably still a noose. So Alex is reporting a factually inaccurate version of the story because he's trying to solidify his argument that all hate crimes directed at non-white people are a hoax. It very well may be the case that this wasn't an instance of a hate crime, as it appears not to be. There are concrete fabrications that Alex is making up to be able to report this story as something in line with his own narratives. The first is that all of the garages had the same

pull-down rope. This is specifically refuted by reporting on the story that reflects that the guy at the garage who first reported the noose checked the other garages before saying anything to make sure it wasn't something that all the garages had and he'd misrepresented or misunderstood. Alex is making this up that it was in all the garages. The second thing is that everyone is calling Bubba and NASCAR heroes. While admittedly this kind of is a subjective thing, I would say that even though this ended up not being a hate crime, both parties did act in ways that are commendable. Wallace had the courage to defend the guy at his garage who found the noose and the humility to accept that they'd been mistaken about what was found, that the noose

had been there for over a year. Similarly NASCAR should be applauded for taking this seriously and working to make sure that their drivers are able to work in a safe environment. If this had happened in the WWE, I guarantee they would have covered it up. The third thing is that people are saying that this is a noose. The issue here is that people are definitely still saying that and they're right. It's a noose. It's 100 percent a noose. I've looked at it. Yes. It's a noose. You bet. Yeah. The lie that Alex is engaging in here is pretending that people are out of line for that assessment. When you go and look at the pictures that NASCAR themselves released, that's a damn noose. It might as well be in the board game clue for noose. This is a fairly minor

point and I don't want to dwell on this story too much, but I feel like it's important to point out a couple of these like these really clear instances of Alex just making up details about a story so it fits into his patterns because otherwise it's not really usable for his reporting. So he needs to do this and it's it's shitty. Yeah, it's it's a real bummer. Can you imagine if Bubba had acted like Alex Jones acted like even after all the FBI report, even after the video and surveillance and all that shit, he's still just like nope. I know who it was. It was all white people. They all got together in billions and they just sat down and made this one news for me. Yeah, like that would be yeah. I'm going to I'm going to skip ahead here a little bit. I'm just

going to ignore these clips because Alex embellishes more on that story from Germany about the foster children. Sure. Sure. Sure. I cut the clips in case and honestly looking back on it, he doesn't embellish in any way that's relevant now and I think it probably would just be stupid to talk about. So I'm going to go ahead. We got it. Yeah, he does say that a nurse in Houston told him that they're cutting seven year olds the dicks off all the time. Oh, okay. So that's interesting. What is that nurse doing? I'd like for him to substantiate this in any way. She won't Is that nurse? Did she personally? I don't know. It's unclear. I don't think this nurse exists. Okay. Well, that's fair. So we get to this next clip here and Alex is talking about like, you know,

you know, God, right? What about him? He was seduced by the devil. The devil tried to seduce him. He did try. Yes. In similar ways. Alex has had his fair share of instances of globalists in hot tubs, course, sometimes in airplanes, always sometimes calling him on his radio show, but mysteriously he's not recording. Of course not. They Hollywood always always always. They tried to get him in Guardians of the Galaxy. Alex is a million dollars. Alex has had pretty much every every echelon of globalist has contacted Alex and tried to recruit him to the team except for one social media. Oh, and now we get to check that box off. Alright. And Mark Zuckerberg tried to get me through his intermediaries to go up to New York a few years ago for the election and

played football with him. And I mean, I mean that figuratively and I did what? But boy, they're like, Hey, watch what happens to your Facebook. Just watch this. And I would go to a video and be some boring thing. My background had like five million views. Like, okay, that's when they turn the spicket on. It's like, well, you're not being too nice to Mark Zuckerberg. You came out in the tag team after we offered you that with the grapevine. And I said, yeah, he can burn in hell because he is. Yeah, that demon better hope he gets eternal life through some silicon junk, which he won't because he's going to face Almighty. Here's why Alex is pathetic. Anybody else would have recorded those calls.

If I'm in a situation where I'm in a position like Alex, it sure is the easiest fucking thing to record a call if Facebook calls you and they try to extort you. It's not hard. Not hard. No, the first call. Maybe you don't record it. You didn't grab this stuff. Right. No big deal. Right. That happens. Yeah. The second call. You got to record these days. These days with like smartphones. It's really easy to have like an app. You can just press just press the button. Yeah, it's not hard. This is to me an indication of bullshit or just incompetence because Alex is sort of pretending that there's like a grand conspiracy of extortion going on with social media like, oh, look at this. We can make you have five million views. But if you talk bad about Zuckerberg

down, go your views and he can't like if he had those recordings, it would be like, wow, that is actually you. You have proof instead. It's just him talking shit. I don't believe it. Maybe that's why James O'Keeffe only ever makes shitty videos is because whenever he gets the good stuff, he always forgets to press record on his phone. That's always the situation. So then he has to make up some bullshit. But if he had just pressed record, he would have it. I would have to assume that is what's going on. That must be the only explanation. So there's a lot of COVID-19 cases that are popping up. You know, the numbers are going up. No, no, flatten the curve. They're going up. No, we're beating it. Alex's take on this is largely that it's just because there's more

testing, which great. Yeah. But he does bring up something that is fairly accurate, but he's misleading about it. And that is that deaths are not rising at the same rate. All right, let me get into the huge news total takeover lockdown to it was all scripted, all planned, all total height, the deaths are plunging, but the cases are everywhere and they'll get enough people. They get panic when they cough to go and they'll say, Oh, let us take you right in here. Oh, you're 25. Come right in here. Oh, you're homeless. Oh, this guy's dead. You don't have any family. We're going to give you some medicine to make you relax. And then they'll keep you alive about two weeks on a bunch of heroin derivatives. While you got a tube down your throat, they're going to suck

all the money out of you. And then they're going to kill your ass. They're going to use that number to scare everybody. But not before they suck hundreds of thousands of dollars out of the taxpayer. So if you want to get murdered, go to a blue city hospital and say you got covered, they're going to kill you real good. Whoa. Yep. That sounds right. The thing with Alex's talk that deaths aren't rising is that for now, that's fairly accurate. But this assessment of the piece of information is deceiving for two reasons. The first was that even as much as things were trending in the right direction, we were still seeing at least 500 deaths a day from COVID-19. That's definitely better than 1000 a day, but that's still not good. On March 20th of this year,

we crossed the threshold where there started to be over 5000 new cases identified per day. On that day, there were only 70 deaths from COVID-19 reported. On March 31st, the death numbers jumped to over 1000 a day. This is because deaths are what they call a lagging indicator of virus spread. Deaths are almost never going to be the first sign you get of a disease spreading, particularly a respiratory virus like this, which doesn't kill people immediately. It's pretty impossible to tell what's going to be the case in about a week or two, but it could be terrible. We do not really know at this point whether the lagging indicator is going to spike in the way that it did the first time around. And here you have Alex doing everything

in his power to make sure that things go worse. Not only is he holding a rally on Sunday where masks are explicitly discouraged, he's telling his audience to avoid going to the hospital if they're sick because the doctors will just kill you for money. If I believed such a thing were possible, I would suggest that Alex is being paid by COVID-19. He's doing all the things that are most likely to facilitate spreading the virus, like trying to start a national movement against mask wearing and attempting to bring large groups of people together. He's working overtime to demonize anyone who takes the virus seriously like Dr. Fauci or the entire CDC. He's building elaborate conspiracy theories to convince his audience not to take appropriate steps if they

end up sick themselves, which will increase the likelihood that they'll have a more severe case or spread it to others. The real world function of how his show is, is that he's kind of on the side of the virus. If you really look down at the impact. If there was a shadowy organization of globalists with the explicit intent of trying to cull the population, no one could be doing a better job for them than Alex right now. Yeah, I mean Alex and Hannity as long as we stipulate that that doesn't exist. It doesn't exist in the imaginary world or one does. He is doing the bidding of that which wishes more illness. Yes, exactly. He's a monster who is killing people. So Alex believes that the only thing that's going to work is for Trump to take out his enemies. Sure.

But there's a problem. I mean the New World Order is running a Marxist-Leninist collapse play entering every financial publication saying depression into the dollar, end of America. We are being taken down. It's so criminal. And the only response would be Trump declares what's happening. They arrest the conspirators because it's a foreign coup. It's a globalist coup. But the country is so undermined and we're so used to appeasing that if Trump did that, they've already got the CFR saying the military is going to kill him or have him arrested. Did not say that. Let me tell you. That was fighting on the Daily Show. All just want to play golf and act tough. They don't give a damn about America. They're all invested

in China. And they just think they're going to retire off. They're not. They're not. The globalists are going to have hardcore purges in this country. And these generals and people of this country falls are going to be hided out in third world countries wishing that it done something. But it doesn't matter because they were bred and created because they were cowards and un-American. Okay. And in the last 50 years for this moment to bring this country down. So let me just a long term plan. Things totally collapse. The average leftist is going to be a starving maggot in the street. And if they live, they're going to be in a communist forced labor camp.

Oh, I mean, Mr. Anti-Police State, Mr. Anti-FEMA camps, take solace that our enemies will be in camps after this. Yeah, that'll be great. That'll be great. All right, Alex, calm the fuck down. So he goes even further with it about Trump needing to kill folks off. Sure. And he might have shown a few cards here. Instead, all Trump's gotta do is take about a hundred people on a helicopter ride. And all this will stop. But he doesn't have the people. He doesn't have the military because America is rotten to the core. So that's unsettling to hear from Alex. Oh, we would totally have a coup and we would be run by a military dictatorship. But unfortunately, Trump doesn't have the control over the military.

I don't know what's going on. Why wouldn't he have control over the military? So for those of you who don't know, the term helicopter ride is something that's caught on over the last few years in the more explicitly fascist corners of the Internet. Though others have used the method of throwing people out of planes and helicopters as a way of killing political dissenters, the term is most directly associated with Chilean dictator Augusto Pinochet, who used helicopters to kill many of the people who posed a threat to his regime. And that's who you want the American president to be related to. Alex seems to be saying that in 2015, this started to become a meme on 4chan and other

in unsavory places where posters would couch their desire to kill their political opponents by saying that they should go on a helicopter ride. They latched on to this specifically because under his rule, thousands of Chileans were executed, tortured, interned or disappeared, and a large number of them are what you would call leftists. Pinochet rose to office after Raku, which was backed by the United States against the socialist government under President Salvador Allende. Pinochet would rule Chile until 1990, and in that time he would embezzle shitloads of money, kill and imprison unknown numbers of mostly left-wing dissenters, and overall just be a big pile of shit. And the same thing is happening in Bolivia right now,

that was all bullshit that was around over on them too. The Trump enthusiast right-wing has taken Pinochet on as a bit of a hero because of this. He overthrew an elected left-wing government and then went about slaughtering people who were not on board with his dictatorship. This is what people like Alex want. They view the 2016 election as being their version of Pinochet's 1973 military coup over Allende, and there's a frustration that Trump hasn't acted the same way Pinochet did after assuming power. You can see this all over the place. At fascist demonstrations, you'll frequently see people with free helicopter ride shirts, or the also popular Pinochet did nothing wrong shirts. This is what Alex wants. He supports Trump because he wants to live in a

right-wing dictatorship where anyone expressing left-wing ideas gets thrown out of a fucking helicopter. It's pretty much obvious to me all the time, but on occasions like this he makes it a little bit too explicit. And he's really on this tip of like, kill everyone. And he goes on, like even extend to get into his weird sci-fi shit. So we're the libertarians now. We're run by the UN. We're run by China. We're run by Hollywood. We're run by the universities. We're run by the media because they're all bigger than the government. We don't need a big government to be bigger than them. We need the government to execute the authority of we the people. Hmm. Who's we the people? And we need Trump to execute order number 66. And I'm dead damn serious. But it's not going to happen

because it doesn't exist. Yes. Well, I'm either the do the Jedi. That is true. That is true on a factual basis. In case there's any non prequel fans out there. Order 66 was the order that the Sith planted in the clones, which made them view all Jedi as traitors and this subject to execution. This was a very bad thing that allowed the bad guys to consolidate power by virtually wiping out all the good guys. You know, people don't talk about the way that the Emperor revolutionized the the the the economy of the Empire. You know, a lot of people are like how dare they blow up Alderaan. But what they don't give them credit for is revitalizing Alderaan's economy before, of course, exploding the entire planet. That's that's worth killing the young exactly. Okay.

Honestly, Alex cannot be any clearer that he understands he's on the evil side here. What with rambling about Trump executing order 66 and wishing his imagined enemies would be given helicopter rides. He's pretty open about being on the bad side. He just doesn't care anymore that it's obvious. Yeah. If you're listening to this show and you're into Alex, whether you realize it or not, you're aspiring to be a follower of Pinochet and Emperor Palpatine while pretending that you're super into the Constitution. It's fucking pathetic. It really is. It's absurdly sad. The fact that they're getting so open with it, though, is in some ways a good sign. It means they feel like they are really getting their asses kicked. They feel like they're losing. That's

that's why they're ramping up their rhetoric to execute everyone I don't like. Because they're losing. But then that when that happens, they tend to start executing people they don't like, and then they win again. So we got to keep them from doing that part. I don't know. We got to stop them. There's one thing, though, that like keeps people on board and that is racism. Have you ever like? I don't know. Like you've been in a situation where like you really want to care it and someone yeah shows you a carrot and you're like, I'm going to grab that. I want to get that care. But then it moves out in front of you. That's son of a bitch. Why'd you move that carrot? You're like, I'm going to go after that carrot again. Then it moves forward a little more.

Then you stare at the carrot for a second. You're like, what the fuck? Why is that carrot levitating? And you're like, oh, shit, there's a string there and you realize it's on a stick. Alex does a little bit of that. I mean, these people always do that. And so like, hey, bad, just wait till after the election. It's going to happen. It's going to be good. It's going to happen. Now you know why they're trying to crowd a race war and crash the economy and keep us locked down and say America's the blame for the virus and then lie about all the stuff because they're going to be destroyed if Trump wins again, because they're all going to go to prison. But here's the problem. If they win, they're going to purge all of us, but not without a fight.

So choose your adventure. Peacefully fix things now or war, physical war. Oh, here she comes. So I understand falling for Trump's whole lock her up thing the first time around back in 2016. It was pretty clearly not going to happen, but I understand how you could get caught up in the moment and think that if he got elected, he was really going to put Hillary in prison. But now four years later, Hillary is not in prison, nor any of the other folks who Alex and Trump fans like to yell about Obama, Susan Rice, Eric Holder, Bill Gates, George Soros, they're all doing fine. Trump's people, on the other hand, are not looking so great.

His personal lawyer, Michael Cohen, pled guilty to a bunch of crimes and agreed to cooperate. General Flynn pled guilty to lying to the FBI and would be going to jail if it weren't for the super corrupt Department of Justice. No. Trump's former campaign manager, Paul Manafort, was found guilty of five counts of tax fraud, four counts of failing to disclose bank accounts, a two counts of bank fraud, and was sent to jail until he was released to house arrest due to COVID-19 concerns. Yeah, but you know, don't worry. It's really important that he be released from prison due to COVID-19 to not a lot of other people, though. I think I think I'm going to support it still because I think it would be hypocritical not to. No, of course.

But yeah, fuck him. I'm not mad about him being out. I'm a mad about other people being in. Yeah. Manafort's associate, Rick Gates, pled guilty to conspiracy against the United States and lying, ultimately making a plea deal to only get 45 days in jail and three years probation. Roger Stone is probably going to be in prison within about two weeks unless Trump pardons him. He will not spend. We even said this on our show. How long ago was that? He's never going to spend a day in prison. I would love to see like if this were not reality. Yeah, I would love to see Trump humble Roger by making him do a couple weeks and then part of it. Okay, like just really cool as heels a little bit, but since it's reality, I'm concerned that he'll get like a last minute

pardon. Of course he will, but I also think like it's too much going on. Nobody's going to be held accountable, but if the pardon, whomever Trump is going to do, why hasn't he done it already because why that's weird to me? Why do it? Why give? Why give yourself the headache until you have to? I don't know. And nobody's going to do anything about it. Bar can just fire whomever he wants for no reason. It's very all disaster. It's very weird. Yeah, I would have suspected you would have done it already, but whatever. Who knows? Maybe I would predict that unless Trump executes order 66 upon his reelection, the only people who are going to end up jail are more people he's friends with. Yes. That seems to be what the plan is. Yeah. And if we had a department of

justice that was, you know, real, Trump would already be in prison for fuck's sake. There's a chance. Yeah. So there's a conventions coming up, political conventions. Yeah. And the Democrats have announced that they're going to be doing a largely virtual convention, which is probably terrible decisions because they're afraid of masks or not afraid of masks because they're killing people. They're globalists or what are why are they doing a non? Well, Alex will explain. All right. Good. Democrats to hold largely viral virtual convention. Virtual conventions so they can remove Biden at the key time and put in who they're really planning. And even the Hill has told you Hillary and Obama are planning to run as president and

VP. They're going to claim it's legal and lawful. And if you against Obama doing it, he's black. You're racist. Real. That's been announced. That's been announced. I am against Obama doing it. And it is not because I'm a racist. The filing deadlines are long past at this point. So this is an absurdly unlikely thing to have come about. If Hillary and Obama wanted to run on a third ticket or like an independent ticket, they would actually still have the time to get the signatures and be put on state ballots. But there's no chance of that. No. In this weird fantasy scenario where they're running, they will be on the Democratic ticket and that like they wouldn't have any delegates going in. No. A contested convention will only happen if there isn't a clear winner

of the state's primaries and caucuses. And that's not going to be the case this year, mostly because Biden already won 2171 delegates of the 1991 that are needed to clinch the nomination. That's how they're going to sneak them in. Right. Bernie was the only other candidate that could possibly have even come close and he suspended his campaign on April 8th and endorsed Biden. All of the candidates, including the ones that the weirdos on the right love like Tulsi Gabbard and Andrew Yang have all endorsed Biden. The convention is pretty fine to do as a virtual thing because it's a formality at this point. Yeah. I know Alex is obsessed with the idea of Hillary running again so he can just coast on anti-Hillary sentiment in his audience and fundraise

off it. But I don't really see a way that's going to happen. No. I don't see a real path. I don't know. My prediction is still, however, that Martin Luther King Jr.'s granddaughter will become president this year. That's my prediction. I don't remember if the time traveler said it happened this year. Oh, it could be 2024. Yeah. No, it was a non-election year. Okay. So then that means obviously. I think I recall it was like 2026 or something. I can't remember exactly, but there were many problems with the prediction. I'm looking forward to it. So in this next clip, Alex yells about how his imagined enemies like Fauci and Cuomo. The people actively trying to save his life right now. They're murderers. Okay. Governor Cuomo guilty. Tony Fauci guilty

of murder, murder, murder, murder. Oh, and then guilty of what? Find the CIA and the FBI want me to know that there's chatter at the Joint Terrorism Task Forces why they've got a hit team ready to come kill me as if I give a damn. You think, oh, God, don't kill me. I'm going to shut up so you can murder old people and homeless people and keep killing babies. I'll get you, don't you worry. You can do nothing to me. You scum. I am not a cowardly sack of garbage like you. You will be destroyed by God. You, you, you. It's you that should be scared. I'll assure you, you spiritually blind rats, you vampires. The sun is coming high noon's coming and you know what happens to people like you in the blazing light. I transcend you will be destroyed. I was just

listening to that and like ad ad ad ad. Yep to an ad. Yep. He resisted somehow. He didn't I don't know what's going on. It was like I don't know what's going on. It was that was a meatball right over the plate. Now is the time shift into right into it. Yeah, I was I was shocked. That's bananas. Also so weird. There's this trend of everyone warning Alex well ahead of time of murder plots against him as a child. He had a warning that the police are going to kill him and now as an adult he is just don't assassinate right. You don't warn people before you assassinate him. That's the whole trick. I suspect it's more an indication of lying. Oh, it could be that too. Yeah, it could be that. So there's a video is going around on social media of a woman at a city

council meeting in florida. Yeah, yeah, the parks and rec city council. That was what a lot of people compared it to. Yeah, there's one. There's a number of clips that were going around, but most people were like, Oh, my God. Alex. Oh, my God. This is amazing. Slightly different. Slightly different. Okay. Men and women are getting up in Texas in New York and Florida and California, and they're saying everything. This video on info wars.com where this woman just tears this hell out of and I saw seen him play a short clip last night and they were scared because they know it's seeing the end. What were they? Were they scared, buddy? You're gonna pay so good. I can't wait as vengeance is God and I can feel the vengeance.

You're gonna pay good. Don't you worry. You're gonna burn in hell. So fake. It's just so artificial. I almost feel in like my human side almost does feel a certain level of empathy for Alex because I think of imagining putting myself in that space where I have to watch somebody who is clearly unwell and shouted a city council about nonsense and be like, my job is to say that's great. Oh, that sucks. That's real tough. Yeah. That would be really tough. Yeah. Yeah. It's a box you put yourself in. It really does suck, right? Well, I mean, it falls short of me feeling bad for him. No, no, no, of course. Yeah. So this next clip, Alex makes it a little bit too clear. I mean, he said things like this in the past and we've noted

it. But one of the things I think is always important to constantly remind people of is that like this is a religious thing for Alex. Like all of this political stuff, all these things are kind of tools like he said it explicitly on the show before that like the ultimate goal is getting people to accept Jesus. Yeah, his version of this is a crusader. Exactly. And he gets to that a little bit here when you try to physically yourself beat it. It's very spiritual. It's very hard to describe. You just have to say, no, God's the armor. God's going to do it. I'm going to put the facts out and trust in God. But as a man, I just constantly feel like I'm a piece of garbage that we are this evil trash to do this. But when you look at how weak their slaves are,

feel sorry for them, their slaves, because that's Satan, an ancient evil entity in control of this and you cannot beat it without God. You cannot beat it. You have to give it to God. So I mean, there's like, okay, for 20 years on the radio, I've been yelling about the political machinations of these globalists. Sure. And apparently the only way to defeat them is God. This has just been a religious fraud the entire time, masquerading as some kind of like analytical anti communist show or whatever. That's very annoying. So Alex at this point has Reverend Childress on, of course, he was supposed to be on the other day, but he had someone a family member in the hospital. So they had to bump it. He's the guy who runs a website called Black

Genocide, which is just all about abortion. So one issue guy, you do have to give it up for people with focus, you know, people who aren't shotgun it all over the place. This dude's got a very simple idea that he wants to get across, but he is also still shotgunning because there's so many different things that all just trace back. Well, of course. So I was going to just ignore this entire interview because I don't, I don't particularly care, but he kept saying things I'm like, hold on now. And here's the first one. I said there has to be something extraordinary, something of a, of a global, something that would really impact the election November, because back in January, they realized that indeed there was no way they were going to

beat Donald Trump in November. There's no way. And so in the, in the nation, we gotta go find that. You said that you said something big is coming. They can't beat him. They're going to pull something big. Right. And why it went beyond my expectations to be quite honest with you. But this is the COVID. I think they got a little bit ahead of time. They were going to do something else when it came to George Floyd. That was more or less a gift. But so they ran with that. I think it was premature. Exactly. They were going to pull something in August on the race stuff, but they went early because Floyd was powerful footage. Very good. Very good. Well, you got that one right straight on in. There's no doubt about it. Prove any of that. These people

should be wearing straight jackets. This is just people should be wearing straight jackets. Every single thing. Every single thing is about secretly. It's about trying to win an election in November. What are you fucking talking about? It's outrageous. Jesus Christ. George Floyd was a gift. Well, for the left who want to defeat Trump. We're it's so world to these people live in where that's an okay thing. You know, is it is it is it solipsistic? Is that is that how you describe that? I mean, it's so I suppose because it's only really in relation to how they feel about stuff. You know, it's not like the election or or the government even is real to them people who are protesting and people who, you know, are having these conversations around the various people

who the police have murdered, not just George Floyd, but in the aftermath of that this conversation that's happened. Alex seems to think that they don't have any feelings or any point. No, they're not their reality doesn't exist outside of them. Just being a tool of some evil cabal to defeat his his hero. Yeah, and that's weird. Well, it makes sense because for all of these people, nothing is beyond a tool. The everything is a prop. Everything is there. Every news story is there to not to be reacted to with any kind of reality but to use as a cudgel against your political opponents. There's something to that. So naturally they assume that the other team has to be doing the same thing as well. Sure. Not realizing that the main reason that we're not on

their team is because of what they're doing. They want to put us in camps. Thank God, they'll be in camps. Exactly. Yeah, you're insane. So also Antifa is in play and Childress actually has some like really in depth intel on Antifa that I think is pretty impressive. Okay, but they're being paid three hundred dollars a day. A friend of mine was on a plane and sat scale them and you know, they always have a couple of cans missing out of the six pack and they're openly talking about how much they were paid and whether or not how long they could stay and they got a bonus if they were arrested by the way. People need to know that. People do need to know that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Got a bonus. A lot of stuff happens on these planes. Alex is accosted by globalists who want

to get him on board. Reverend Childress has a friend who overheard Antifa talking about getting Antifa there. Didn't you see all the Antifa planes going around black block planes there? Yeah, isn't it so great that Soros is paying us extra if we get arrested? Oh my God, I can't believe I'm overhearing this. I'll fuck out of here. You know this huge massive conspiracy that we're a giant part of going around the entire country. I guess starting a race war. Let's just loudly talk about that. And we better. I mean, thank God there's nobody who's friends with weirdos on the plane. Did they not get the message? This is the Antifa plane. Come on. What's going on here? All right. We flew Southwest. So Childress has another thought about Black Lives Matter here.

Oh, he should not. He should stop having thoughts. Not very good. And I'd like to say publicly that Black Lives Matters, even on their website, basically says they're against the Western nuclear family idea or how they feel that that is a Western ideology and not anything that would be conducive to the world. So on the Black Lives Matter website, there is a section titled What We Believe. In that section, there is the following paragraph. Quote, we disrupt the Western prescribed nuclear family structure requirement by supporting each other as extended families and villages that collectively care for one another, especially our children, to the degree that mothers, parents and children are comfortable. This is intentionally misrepresented by Ray

Wing Kahn men to imply that they want to destroy the idea of a nuclear family when in reality it's about inclusion and an approach to community that issues the requirement that people be nuclear family to be family. You know that old saying it takes a village to yeah. Well, what if we just what if we just made that explicit? What if we took that old saying that represents thousands of years of human existence, realizing that raising a child by yourself or with only one other person is not as as successful as raising them as a community that one thing that's existed for thousands of years. That's actually globalism trying to destroy dads. Yeah. And you notice that these same right wing dum-dums don't throw a huge fit when every church calls their congregation

a family because they understand this concept perfectly well. They're just maliciously weaponizing fears about it in this case because it's part of a social movement that they feel threatened by. Just say you hate black people. That'll do more than enough to get a plenty of people on your fucking side. Yeah. In this next clip, we get Reverend Childress bringing up the legacy of Martin Luther King in order to impugn. Stop it. The Black Lives Matter. Black Lives Matters has done everything contrary to the last profound profit in this nation that brought about true social change. Dr. Martin Luther King. One, he advocated love. All right. Two, he was nonviolent and spoke continually against non-violence, certainly looting and rioting and breaking

up glass. Far be it for me to pretend that I fully understand the complete scope of the legacy of Martin Luther King Jr., but even I know that Reverend Childress is full of shit. For one, one of King's most famous quotes is, quote, a riot is the language of the unheard. He expanded on this point in a speech given in 1967 at Stanford, quote, in a real sense, our nation's summers of riots are caused by our nation's winters of delay. And as long as America postpones justice, we stand in the position of having these recurrences of violence and riots over and over again. Social justice and progress are the absolute guarantees of riot prevention. Martin Luther King was a proponent of nonviolent resistance, but he was also pretty clear that

riots were the result of nonviolent resistance not getting anywhere. That's the whole unheard part of the equation. And under this conception, which I agree with for the most part, riots do not happen for no reason. People who feel they have access to nonviolent means to effect change do not riot as their first option, generally speaking. I don't know. I don't know if I can think of an example of that. We have spent so, so much time not rioting, so much time. King even denounced the people who would say that black folks rioting only leads to angry white people by saying, quote, it may well be that shouts of black power and riots in Watts and the Harlems and the other areas are the consequences of white backlash rather than the cause of them.

By the end of 1967, there were strong indications that King had changed his mind and embraced riots as a method of protest. He gave a speech at the American Psychology Association convention that included the following, quote, urban riots must now be recognized as durable social phenomena. They may be deplored, but they are there and should be understood. Urban riots are a special form of violence. They are not insurrections. The rioters are not seeking to seize territory or to attain control of institutions. They are mainly intended to shock the white community. They are a distorted form of social protest. The looting, which is the principal feature, serves many functions. It enables the most enraged and deprived Negro to take hold of consumer goods

with the ease the white man does by using his purse. I was reading a piece in Timeline by Hanif Abdurraqib, which I think put the matter of Martin Luther King's stance on violence quite nicely, particularly in the context of how Alex and his ill try to use his legacy, quote, beyond the misattributed quotes and bad memes and poor logic made in his name, the real tragedy of King's legacy is that white people who so frequently invoke it in the name of peace do so with a fundamental perversion of his message. Non-violence, as it is discussed and fetishized in proximity to the poor and or the marginalized, is so often dragged out in response to any uprising of those people. The riot is the language, yes, but the response to the riot is

also its own language, the language of doublespeak. The call is for peace and love, but the true demand is for complete silence altogether. An NFL player takes the knee without speaking and is threatened and hated, called a violent thug and a racist. For those of certain skin colors, no protest can be peaceful enough. If somebody hadn't murdered Martin Luther King and he was still alive today, I have a hunch that he would be on the side of the protesters. Oh, maybe. And there's one last point I want to make, and that is just because Martin Luther King had a personal belief in loving the oppressed and the oppressor. That in no way means that everyone has to do that in order to be legitimate protesters. You can absolutely hate the people you're protesting and you're just as

valid and you act as anybody else. This all basically just boils down to co-opting and distorting of Martin Luther King's perspective, which people like Alex do to invalidate any protest they don't like. And it could load a bullshit. Well, I mean, the theory ultimately is nonviolent protesters, the nonviolent are the ones you want at the table in the negotiations. The violent protesters are how you get them there. That's the reality of it because we've seen how many we've seen millions of women march and not a goddamn thing was done. We've seen a few weeks of protest with property damage and holy shit. Stuff starts falling down. A number of things have been done. Yeah, you want you look. I want the nonviolent people at the table. They're the

ones who should be negotiating our future. I think diversity of tactics can be an important element of protest. But I think in terms of particularly when you talk about Martin Luther King and his evolving stance on this stuff, a large part of it isn't so much what you're saying in terms of like we need somebody to set a fire in order. No, no, no, of course, right, right. Yeah, that's why Malcolm X was there. His position was largely the evolved position was more like what do you think is going to happen? Yeah, yeah, this is this is part of what happens when things aren't done, right? And like that Abdul Rakeem piece was saying, like the, you know, the calls for peace when there is, you know, a hearty's burn or something or Wendy's is just an invalidation of your violence

towards people like Colin Kaepernick who did peaceful symbolic protest. You wanted him to die. The president called him a son of a bitch, right? Yeah, this is this is the the individual instances exist within a spectrum of things that have happened and trying to pretend that there's some sort of a unique or overriding culpability for people who commit property damage is it's an incomplete picture and all it does is get off the hook. All of the people who had the winters of inaction that led to that summer of action. Yeah. And that that that understanding is always absent from people like Alex or Reverend Childress when they come on and try and use Martin Luther King's name to invalidate the protests. It's disgusting, mainly because they are using

Martin Luther King Jr. to say get back in your place. Of course, yes, settle down, calm down, wait, be quiet, wait, don't bother us. Yeah. Oh, just just vote. Just vote in November. That'll work. It'll work this time. I know. Sure. America's how many years old? Don't worry about it. I don't think that falls in line with the letter from a Birmingham jail. No, but I'll leave that for another day. Yeah. So Black Lives Matter apparently was created by Satan, which we touch on here. Why not? That's something Satan has specifically contoured made up to the region, the country that you're in some type of ideology and teaching specifically made to draw you out. And because this nation is always battle with race. What do you think he would come up with? But with Black

Lives Matters, what is he after? He's after Genesis. He wants to change the definition of the family. He wants to think that husband. He wants to take control of the entire life process. And that's so deep what you just said. The leftist CIA admits they study every culture in every group for every country to create a weapon system to psychologically control everyone. Absolutely. But it's a devil is making it up. So it's going to be good. Oh, it's going to be good. The leftist CIA. How many how many lefts countries does the CIA need to topple before we just consider them not the leftist CIA? I don't know. This is that's kind of just how Alex can. Jesus, the left CIA gets silly, silly get down. But apparently the devil

created Black Lives Matter. Well, why? So he's not busy. So like I said, everything always funnels back to abortion. And so here, children's make some statements to have Planned Parenthood founded by the most devout racist of her times, a tutor to Adolf Hitler, third right, provable. We have the data. Is it like you say is it so they don't want to see it. I included that clip. Like I said, just to stress that everything is due to is about boils down to anti abortion advocacy. He's a one issue guest on Alex's show and only exists in terms of info wars as a black voice assuring Alex that Alex can't really be racist because the real racists are people who support reproductive rights. Exactly. Hitler did not like Margaret Sanger. In fact, her work was burned in the Big Purge of 1933,

along with the writings of Freud and Magnus Hirschfeld. One of the reasons that the Nazis hated her is because her main work, even if they want to say now everything's about abortion, her main work was about birth control and family planning, which ran counter to the goal of the Third Reich, which was to create as many Aryan children as possible. If Nazi women were to fall under the sway of these radical theories about birth control and self determination, the plan would be harder to pursue. It would be really difficult. Similarly, Sanger hated Hitler and was a member of the American Council against Nazi propaganda. It was an active campaigner against the Nazi rise to power in Germany. Sanger was a proponent of some ideas about eugenics. That is definitely true,

and some of it is not good to look back on. I do not try to pretend that's not the case. But in her 1932 work, My Way to Peace, she's explicit that any definition of quote unfit could not be based on race or religion. Still her views, I think, are a little bit unevolved. But go back and scratch any preeminent feminist of that time, you know, like you start reading Elizabeth Cady Stanton's writing. A lot of scientists. Yeah. Oh, yeah. There's a lot of there's a lot of stuff that is unfortunately stuff that does not does not does age well. No, no. This is a load of historical revisionism and character assassination. It's being carried out just because these dudes don't like the Margaret Sanger helped women take control of their own lives and have family planning.

They can't stand that. So Reverend Childress gets on Alex's show and embarrasses himself by saying that Sanger was one of the was the most devout racist of her time. Does he know who's around during her time? No, don't worry about it. All of the not all of the clan. All of them. She was born in like 1879. The most devout racist of her time amount of people that he is putting on a scale below Margaret Sanger is outrageous. Yeah, let's never forget that deep below all this stuff, you eventually get down to the ultimate problem and it's just dudes. Yeah, just fucking dudes running shit to some extent. At least in a non cooperative way. Yeah, it's a big problem.

Yeah. So as this ends, Reverend Childress has a he has a Skype problem and Alex is a devil. He's maybe he's trying to deal with that and he makes a shocking announcement. Thank Reverend Childress has Skype completely cut out and let's get him back on the next few weeks. It's not enough to get him on once a year. We should have Reverend Childress on, especially in crazy times like this every two weeks. And we're getting past her manning. Oh, we got we got one minute left. You're back. Finish your point about polls, sir. OK, Rasmussen poll 40 percent of African Americans likely voters say that Donald Trump is doing well. Now my interest is really piqued.

I don't care about this. The only reason that clip is fun is because of the Skype glitch. And then also because Alex says that Reverend Manning is coming back on, who of course is the guy who saw them I sent a bucket of poop. Yes. Oh, yeah. That interview won't go well. Oh, no. He hates Trump. He calls him Tribulation Trump. Oh, my God. If if Manning comes back on, I cannot wait for that episode. It's going to be yelling at Alex. Yeah, it's going to go like two minutes and then Alex is going to hang up on the fuck out. Yeah, because he thinks that Trump is intentionally bringing about the end of the world. Right. That's Reverend Manning's whole thing. Yeah. So I think Alex has not kept up with him.

Well, has just forgotten that there's a reason he's not on the show anymore. There might be that. Yeah. So that's exciting. Alex gets to the end of this episode here on the 25th. And he makes it very clear, as he did earlier, that God is the only way forward. Sure. It's his God. Oh, well, well, well, don't worry about the God, God, not capital. Not the other gods. We're in it, folks. And only God can steer us through this thing. That's the that's the God's honest truth. And you all know it. And I'm sorry for people that aren't Christian or don't believe in God. She got steered wrong when you were a kid or whatever. Oh, sure. There are no atheists in foxholes. Okay. And I know who decides. So if you have

other religions, you got steered wrong when you were a kid. It's a real bummer. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like I am. I have a pretty high tolerance for people who like preach transcendence kind of think maybe not transcend transcendental meditation. Yeah. Yeah. Like the idea that what do you have wrong with David Lynch? I don't I don't want to get into it. I don't have a problem with people who are like really big into the importance of recognizing things outside yourself. Like so and a lot of people can find that through religion, you can find it through Christianity, you can find it through Judaism, Islam, Shintoism, Buddhism, whatever you got, you can find a path to connection with something larger.

And you can do it through atheist means to like or do it through fucking Steven Universe. That's all you. Yeah. Right. I mean, sure. Yeah. There are I don't have a problem with people who are like one of the most important things for us moving forward is recognizing, you know, this transcendent ability that we all have within us. I think that it's a really easy way to be an entry point to a scam. But I don't really think that that idea itself is that toxic. But once you start getting into like only my version of transcendence is real, the rest are a lie. That's when it's it's like, Hey, man, this is you're doing culture. Yeah. And it's really ugly. So we get into the 26th. And we hear a familiar refrain from Alex.

Every broadcast is important. But this one is going to be particularly over the top. Everything I'm going to be covering is mega bomb shell, mega bomb shell, mega bomb shell. This one is this a full on stop your car, open your window, get other people. No, this is just a really important one. We didn't get the stop traffic. Gotcha. Okay. So Alex indicates why this is mega bomb shell. And bull. But it gets worse on the NIH's own CDC website. We're going to show you this coming up. It admits that the mask does not keep you from breathing out viruses or bacteria. And the bacteria actually incubate in the cloth live longer than they would, allowing it to then be spread, which is why we one of the reasons the blue cities don't just overdiagnose, don't

just kill people. But they're keeping people indoors and they're wearing the mask that are weapon systems to breathe in and then to breathe out totally unfiltered air after it's incubated in the fabric. Or as it would just die in seconds in the open air, it allows it to sit there and linger. There's a few very basic problems with what Alex is saying. One, the CDC and NIH are two different organizations, which Alex is treating as the same thing. They're both part of the Department of Health and Human Services, but their missions are completely different. The CDC is focused on response control and prevention as it relates to public health issues, whereas the NIH is primarily a research based institution. These groups can work hand in hand and they

complement each other. But Alex seems to think that the CDC is part of the NIH or vice versa, which is just dumb. Also, fun fact, Obama had won a CDC head for the entirety of his two terms. So far, in just one term, Trump has appointed four different people to lead that group. Yeah, not good. Because they were all great. Not good. No, no, no, because they all nailed it. Two, there's no article about this on InfoWars website. So I have no idea what Alex is talking about. There's one article titled, quote, bombshell face masks, masks proven to be detrimental to personal health and well being. But that's just a page that has an embedded video of this episode of his show. It has zero information or links or anything to learn more. Just intuitively,

what he's saying makes zero sense. If this were the case that somehow wearing masks for a brief time was detrimental to your health, doctors, nurses, dentists, and all sorts of health professionals would be dropping like flies. When Alex brings up the specifics later, I'll get into it. But at this point, when I was listening, I'm like, I'm not going to go on a wild goose chase on the CDC and NIH's websites for whatever he's lying about. Oh, also totally unrelated. But on Saturday, Newsweek reported on the case of Tim Walters, the lead organizer of Reopen Maryland, who was an aggressive campaigner against wearing masks. Turns out he tested positive for COVID-19 after developing vision problems, a headache, and a fever. Quote, Walters suggested that those

he has recently come into contact with should monitor their symptoms. However, he's refusing to cooperate with Maryland contact tracers by providing any personal information that could help them contain the virus. Turns out he doesn't blame basic science for his getting sick. He's decided that Satan gave him COVID-19. Oh, no. God damn it. Satan is everywhere. This is based on the fact that he went to a number of rallies before getting sick, which is really cool thinking. What? Yeah, that's his. So if he yep, he's also committed to going out in public without a mask even after testing positive, which borders on intentionally trying to infect people. Yeah, no, that's a crime. He may not have a chance to do that for long, though, because quote, the

53-year-old said he also has diabetes while admitting he does not maintain, does not always maintain healthy habits. Obviously, this dude doesn't represent everyone on his side of things, but he does represent at least some percentage of them. People who will rail against masks, hold anti-mask rallies, then get sick and not understand still that it's because they were doing the thing that everyone told them is the thing that's most likely to get you sick. Yeah, this is literally terrifying. It's three Cambrian levels of thinking. It's legitimately terrifying. It is. He's from before history. This is like, oh, no, no, obviously the lightning struck two days ago, which is why I have COVID-19 now. Right. It was Satan. Yeah. I would have a

lot more empathy for him being in a high risk category for complications, but he's insisting on behaving in ways that put everyone around him at risk. So I'm going to save my caring for someone else. No, he should be kept inside of his home. He should be put under house arrest. That's that's and you know what? The only reason we know about that story is because it's newsworthy because he ran one of these protests. I don't know the numbers of people who just went to them. Estonishing. Might have been just astonishing. Who knows? Anyway, Alex has a gotcha moment on Joe Biden. So here is Joe Biden telling us 120 million people died in the US. That is 40% of the US population dead. That is not true. It's 110,000 and almost all that's fake. Here's proof. Well,

people drastically underestimate is the impact on the mental health of people who now everything is complicated. Not only is the healthcare piece, but people don't have a job. People don't have anywhere to go. They don't know what they're going to do. A lot of people you have unnecessarily. Now we have over 120 million dead from COVID 100. I mean, what was he going to say? More of that in context. It gets even more wacky. What was he going to say? This is such classic Alex. What was he going to say? He said, I mean, and then they cut it off. What was he going to say? I don't know how he forgets to cut that part off. Like it's so clear if you're listening that Biden immediately corrected himself because he misspoke. The full quote is quote. Now we have over 120 million

dead from COVID. I mean 120,000 dead from COVID. This is just fake outrage and an attempt to create the impression that Biden sincerely thought there were 120 million people dead or that he was trying to get that message across to the public when in reality he just misspoke and corrected himself. That's the full context. It doesn't get more wacky. Alex is just a fraud and a liar. I can't believe that his super competent team would cut that clip and leave the part where he says, I mean, yeah, because everybody has already assumed what he's going to say next, which is that actually it's 120,000. Yes. I found a cut of it on YouTube that cuts before the I mean. Yeah, you could have used that one. There is a clear edit point that you

could have used. Could have used it. Yep. Nope. Got to get the part. Yeah. Man, you got to really feel for Alex's support staff. Just terrible. I really, really struggling. Alex teases his big news more. There is so much to break down. So much to cover here today. And I really want to build this up for everybody because it's so incredibly important. I'm going to cover it in the next segment now. Do you understand that at CDC dot gov at CDC dot gov, it says the M 95 mask spreads the disease on page four, page four of the website. Page four of the website. And how sick this is, according to what they say, it spreads it. Page four of the CDC's website. Page four. CDC website. Go to page four. Alex, are you my grandma?

CDC dot gov backslash page four, right? Yeah. First thing here, even without knowing what he's talking about, because page four of a website isn't anything that means anything. No, it's page four and 95 masks are not the same thing as the face masks. Most of us use they're more sort of the thing that you'd find in a medical setting. Even so, everything I can find on the CDC's website says that they have a general filtering efficacy of 95% at least on the CDC's page titled recommendation regarding the use of cloth face coverings. They're clear that face masks are recommended to slow the spread of the virus, and that you should not be using N 95 masks, but not because they don't work. Quote, the cloth mask coverings recommended are not surgical masks or N 95 respirators.

Those are critical supplies that must continue to be reserved for healthcare workers and other first medical first responders. Alex is teasing this big news, but he's provided no indication where this information is coming from other than page four of the CDC's website, which is almost worse than him saying nothing. It's more confusing. Yeah. What is page four to him? I don't know. What does he think page four of a website is? He has sheets of paper that some intern printed out, and it's on the fourth page. So some intern printed out. Yeah. God. That's all this is. I hate old man house phone. Right. So there's no way for me to track down what any of this is from other than okay. It's something on the CDC's website that one of his staff printed off, and it's the fourth

page of the printout. I got nothing. It's stupid. And if you're listening to this and you're convinced by it, you're stupid. And now Alex is going to complain about how everyone is stupid. The IQ of the Western person is going down like a lead zeppelin. And now we got a bunch of zombie like people raging around that don't know what planet they're on or what page websites are all part of a plan on what page is that plan. So this is a sabotage of civilization. I'm going to cover it all when we come back in the next segment. We've got a giant special going right now. There it is. Of July special that we run every year. That's the same special. Should have done the ad pivot after you're yelling earlier. Much better. This is a different day. But so finally Alex gets down

to business and gives out the URL. This is very disappointing. This is from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. And they say on there that masks do not protect you still. And that you should not wear them unless you're ill. But oh, there's something hidden right there that's even bigger. Coronavirus disease 2009 personal protection equipment questions and answers. So this is on the CDC. Here's the URL CDC dot gov coronavirus four slash 2009 dash ncov word slash HEP word slash respirator dash use dash fax dot html. As read by Alex, that's not a real URL. I was going to say that's not going to go anywhere. No, for one thing when he says HEP, it should be HCP. Also, I can't tell if Alex is misreading the year.

If he sang 2009, which it sounds like he is, then this can't be information about COVID-19. But it could possibly be about H1N1 flu, which was the big health concern that year. I suspect he's just misreading 2019. But I'm honestly not sure. That's kind of what I was assuming. Yeah. Yeah. Either way, it doesn't matter because Alex keeps talking and it instantly becomes clear what he's messing up here. And what do they tell you right here? They tell you on page four of five pages. Which five pages that the exhaling valve allows unfiltered, exhaled air to escape into the sterile field. So we're told it's to protect other people that you're wearing in case you've got it. Be a good

person. Don't expose others when it does nothing except incubate it. So the first hint that he's not talking about normal face masks is the reference to an exhaust valve. Your mask doesn't have an exhaust valve? No. No, I'm pretty sure. No, because I know Raptor Princess made us some masks and she put valves in there. So this is specifically about masks with valves, which are different from cloth masks. These masks typically have a mechanism which opens when the wearer exhales, which defeats the purpose of you or I wearing masks. The goal is to contain droplets which could infect other people. So if there's a valve that opens every time you exhale, it's not going to do anything. These sorts of masks are specifically designed as protective to the wearer

with no concern for what the wearer might be putting back into the environment. These specific sort of masks with valves are typically for use in industrial settings or in construction. While the N95 masks that healthcare workers are there, they're pretty much the same, but with no valves. So they don't risk patients getting sick while protecting themselves. Okay, so Alex grabbed one example of the CDC literally actually saying like, hey, here's the masks you should wear and here's the masks you shouldn't wear. Yes. Yeah, there we go. It should come as no surprise that for a long time people have been reporting on how you shouldn't wear these masks with valves as a means of limiting the spread of COVID-19. In 30 seconds on Google, I was able to find the

following articles explaining that you should just not use these kinds of masks. There was the Daily Mail back on April 28, Insider on May 28, Fast Company from April 28, Boston Globe on May 27, and there's plenty more. This is old news and Alex is pretending it's a bombshell when in reality he's just lying about what the guidance says. Wearing masks is effective in stopping particles and droplets from spreading from your mouth and nose. This efficacy drops when you have an exhalation valve that opens up and lets out these particles and droplets. This is common sense and there's no big gotcha moment here. The guidance is to wear masks, but these specific types are not effective for these purposes, so they're not recommended. You could wear medical

N95 masks that don't have valves, but you shouldn't because those need to be directed to medical professionals who need them more than you do. It's very simple. Now it's either unwilling or unable to do the approximately two minutes of work that would be required to report on this correctly. The thing is, it's not laziness or inability that creates this. It's bad will. Alex knows that the blurb he's reading has nothing to do with a normal mask reading. He's just intentionally lying to pretend it's related. How could you read that cold and read valves and be like, wait, what does this mean? I can't. You can't. You have to have bad will. Yeah, you're acting in a way that is literally hurting people. Yeah, listening to you knowingly. This

is premeditated. This is not involuntary. It's such weak shit. This is not criminal negligence. This is premeditated. Yeah. If you're somebody who like thinks Alex is legit and he fucking knows his stuff and you're listening to him read this thing about the CDC and their masks with valves and you're not thinking like, huh, my mask doesn't have a valve. No mask I've ever seen people wearing generally when I go down to the grocery store. No, everyone just has those cloth masks. You know what the fuck he's talking about. Maybe I should look into this. Oh, Alex is full of shit. Do the Richard Nixon masks have valves in them? Would Patrick Swayze survive this situation? I think that the CDC doesn't recommend those. They don't recommend the dead presidents? Yes.

Damn. So Alex gets to complaining about Melinda Gates because she did an interview that was discussing primarily how they wanted to get involved in vaccine development in this particular case because this was very important and risking the idea of countries having a bidding war over this vaccine could be very dangerous because you could artificially inflate the price to the point where people who were in need didn't have access. Simultaneously, she's discussing how there are different communities who have different grades of need for the vaccine, maybe more pressing need. And Alex is really mad about this. You know, we know there are 60 million health care workers around the world who are keeping

everybody safe. They deserve to get this vaccine first. And from there, you want to do tiering in various countries to make sure your most vulnerable populations get it. In our country, that would be blacks and Native Americans who are underlying health conditions and the elderly. Back that up, 27. Okay. Well, boy, ideally, there'll be universal access for a potential vaccine that gets developed, but it's absurd to pretend that different communities aren't in more need than others. For instance, I would very much like a vaccine for myself, but I recognize that I'm very lucky to be relatively young in relatively decent shape, have no preexisting conditions that put me at risk, and I'm able to work from home.

As such, though I would want a vaccine as soon as I can get one, I will gladly postpone getting one if there's a situation where people who are at higher risk than me because of either demographics or because of their line of work. If they need to get vaccinated first, that's great. That's basically all Melinda Gates is getting at. It's not something nefarious. Data has been showing that a disproportionate number of black Americans are getting COVID-19 and dying. A vaccine will not solve many of the systemic problems that are at the root of what many feel is driving this phenomenon, like quote, overrepresentation in service industries where social distancing is difficult or impossible, housing conditions in some predominantly black

communities, and higher incarceration rates, according to a study put out by the Chicago Urban League. Though it wouldn't solve those big underlying problems, it would at least save a bunch of lives, which is good. Also, on that point, fuck Melinda Gates for not including incarcerated persons on her list of people who should have a high priority for vaccines. No shit. See, Jordan, it's possible to agree with her underlying point while also still critiquing that even some little parts of her point, even though that she has a decent point, she fails to recognize one of the largest groups that needs to be helped at a highest priority. Now, I understand that disagreement. However, what you're missing is that she only mentioned

black people and Native Americans because they're the targets of the vaccine first, to kill them all and wipe them out. That's Alex's point. That's his theory. Why in God's name would you, if you have a vaccine that kills people, why would you first give it to healthcare people? That makes no sense. Right. And then I'll cut off the clip too before she says that people who work at like grocery stores and be packing plants and stuff like that are also considered in her wave of like the people who are in the most need of it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. See, I mean, it's just stupid. Alex is just trying to race bait. He's just that's all he's doing here. Yep. Yep. So Alex

starts rambling about Bill Gates's mom. And it's really interesting to me that he never really bothered to learn what her name is. You know who was running the health department in Seattle in 1983? You know who was on the board overseeing it? She was a banker. She was the first woman on a major corporate board in the United States. Her husband ran Planned Parenthood. Her name was Mrs. Bill Gates. Bill Gates's mother is named Marianne Maxwell. No, it's Mrs. Bill Gates. Okay. Because he married his mother. Sure. Maxwell was appointed to the Board of Regents of the University of Washington back in 1975. And she led a campaign to divest from South African holdings in order to fight apartheid. So good on her. Hey, good job. In 1983, she became the first female

head of the United Way. That's what Alex is talking about. She never ran the Seattle Health Department, which actually isn't a thing. There's the King County Public Health Department or the umbrella of the Washington Department of Health. But I don't know what Alex is talking about. He's claiming that Bill Gates mom ran a thing that he got the name of wrong and he can't even be bothered to know her name. This is a man who just doesn't give a fuck about appearing credible at all. He just knows that his audience accepts whatever. So why try? See, did you know that it was Mrs. Bill Gates all the way back in the 80s who created COVID-19? Cool, man. Did you know that? Cool. Mrs. Bill Gates. I gotta go. Okay. All right. All right. So Alex gets another guest on

and this is weird. Now, Jason Edwards is a very interesting caller made points better than I could make him. So I thought, why not get him on as a guest and we want to do more and more and just get really good callers. All the callers are amazing. If their phones are good, their points are always good. Read. No one else wants to go on my show anymore and get them on the show. Yeah. So Alex had a caller the day before and he's like, oh, good. Let's fucking do a guest. That's not a good sign. No, no matter what show you're doing. I mean, there's some ways to do it that could be fun. Like if you're having a show where like a caller calls in and like, I don't know. I feel really, for Alex, this is, this is sad. You know, Chris Gether did all of

that stuff. Right. Yeah. You're not Chris Gether. Audience engagement in and of itself, not bad. No. But this is dumb. In fact, it can be transcendent in a way. So Alex talks about or he talks with this caller guest and this guy. Brilliant. Not great. Genius. No. So sad to be in church. I'm just going to be straight up and I see people with masks on. I'm like, okay, I understand you got to meet everybody else at their faith. But the Lord came to heal and give sight to the blind. So if he wasn't scared to touch the leopards, man, I'm gonna tell you, if you feel you got coronavirus, man, come to me. I'll pray for you. I'll stand in the gap right now in the name of the most high Almighty created. Absolutely. Absolutely. All right. Is that like, did he just

declare himself Jesus? Maybe. I'm more concerned about this sort of like there like illness denial, you know, like just sort of a there is no cure for anything other than God. You have to first allow the virus into your body. Well, that is true. And then once you allow the virus into your body, which you shouldn't have done. And if you had just taken my $6,000 a month course, you would never have done that. We are like really close to snake handling. Oh, totally. We are 100% really close to that guy believes that lightning is why he got sick. Yeah. So I might as well be the same. Alex wraps this up and he has another guest and I didn't give a fuck. I mean, he just lays it all out. So I'm going to let him go over all with us right now and tell us

about what he saw, why he did it and where he thinks this is all going. So thank you so much for coming on with us, Mr. Hartwig. And you're at GoFundMe.com forward slash Facebook insider because you obviously sacrifice your job and a lot more to do this so people should support. So this is another project Veritas guy who worked at Cognizant. Yeah, yeah. Another guy. Yeah, great. So I mean, whatever comments I had about the first guy apply them here. They're roll over. It's like roll over minutes. I will say that this guy I feel bad for him because his GoFundMe is not making nearly as much as the other guy. Number two. The other guy slowed down a bit man 30 something thousand in the first day. Then I checked up again. It was only like 40,000

which still is too much. But it doesn't you know you I don't think this is going to I don't think either of them are going to hit their hundred fifty thousand. I'll tell you what you definitely don't want to be the third guy on the lunar landing. No, I'll tell you that right now. You don't you don't want to be like I this guy is going to have just as much like Google ability for future jobs and stuff he wants to try and you know like if you just Google his name you'll now come up with a bunch of project Veritas bullshit and he's not even getting the pay out that the other dude is a real bummer. It's bad strategy. He's trying to get in on the scam and and he just he just missed it. He just blew it. So yeah, I don't care about him. He sucks.

We got this next clip though. Alex, we do need to remind you that Alex has his rally coming up this weekend. Oh boy. So Alex talks about that here. We can't breathe. News and have our big protest demonstration coming up this Sunday. High noon. Texas capitals outside. Be there or roll over to total slavery. So again, fuck Alex for a stupid racist bullshit with the naming. I wanted to play that clip because since the last episode that we recorded, I've stumbled onto an article about his rally on the info wars website that I find pretty distasteful and a bit of an affront. Oh boy. Alex posted an article with the headline quote new new movement hijacks. I can't breathe meme to protest masks in public. That's an interesting headline for two reasons. The first

is that before they had any events before there's anything going on, he'd already branded this a movement. There's no momentum behind it, but this is a new movement grassroots. Sad grassroots movement to everybody. That's sad. But sadder is the fact that Alex thinks that I can't breathe as a meme that he has any right to hijack. I understand that he's a racist and opportunist, but I even struggle to really accept that that he's this much of a monster and that this is how he feels he can act. You would think the basic human decency would stop you from taking multiple people's last words as they were being killed by police and then just use them for your unrelated publicity stunt. There's a coherence when Black Lives Matter protests chant I can't

breathe or they use that term on a sign. They're protesting against police brutality, which is the reason those words were uttered in the first place. It makes sense. It's not a meme in the sense that Alex uses that word. It's a distillation of the protests message that brings to the forefront the seriousness of the issue being protested. For Alex, he seems to think that because he believes that they're just demonic globalist opportunistically using George Floyd's death in order to usher in a dictatorship, he can just use the power of those words and use them for his own purposes. What he fails to understand is that much like Thor's hammer, this is a weapon he can't wield and the words have no power in his hands. His attempts to harness what's behind

these words that he thinks are just a meme only reveals his desperation and his cravenness. This probably wouldn't be enough to justify talking about this again. But I thought that there was something hilarious about this post. Alex is really trying to pretend that he didn't start this whole thing. The article begins quote freedom lovers in Texas have launched we can't breathe. No, get the fuck out of here. He's trying to act like he didn't create the movement that he's trying to create. Yes. God, what a fucking dick through most of this post. There's the third person tone referring to this as a group of freedom lovers and that quote Alex Jones and Info Wars crew will be attending. However, they slip up and start using the first person we

about halfway through the post. Of course they do that could have been avoided if they had a competent editor working. No, they can't get a competent editor. This is essentially a press release for their stupid March, but they're trying to mask on intended the fact that they are behind the entire thing. I think that they've probably learned that when they do things that are Info Wars branded, it's a little too transparent that they're just publicity stunts. They're trying a different approach. And I want to say this. This is super dangerous. On Saturday, the Austin American Statesman reported that quote Austin health health officials last week saw the highest rate of positive coronavirus tests of any metro area in the nation. Austin Mayor Steve

Adler warned quote, if you venture out, know that you are multiples more likely to get infected today than two weeks ago. Legitimately, Alex could not be doing more to facilitate the spread of the virus if you wanted to. I saw some videos earlier today from the feeds of Alex's protests and there are maybe a few hundred people there. I'm being very generous with my estimate. But it was a horrible turnout compared to other recent protests. One part of Alex's plan that is really flawed and kind of funny when you think about it is that there's a giant gate in front of the governor's mansion. So he just had a bunch of people outside a gate with Alex yelling a bunch of catchphrases into a PA system. During Alex's speech, the camera person panned around the audience to show

that was a bad idea. It's pretty thin. It's really depressing and disappointing for him. And hopefully it doesn't end up killing anyone. If it does, that's that's on him. That's literally on him. I mean, he literally said mask wearing is discouraged exclamation point. Yeah. No, that's that's that's his fault. He killed a man. If somebody dies, who was at that rally, this this might kill the man. But now he didn't freedom lovers in Texas. Sure. All right. Okay, I like where you're going with this, Dan. Maybe this is a attempt to dodge culpability and the possibility that there are some negative outcomes. It is so funny to me that he tries to co-opt like other right wing protests and shit and make them about him. And this time now he's

trying to co-opt his own protest to make it about him and act like it's not weird. This is bananas. Yeah. So here's where we get to the payoff of Alex being embarrassed by someone he admires. Of course. We heard on our last episode Alex talking about how G Edward Griffin was talking about the communist plan. Yes, back in the 60s. Yes. Yes. Yes. G Edward Griffin is a OG anti communist. He is a weirdo of the highest order. And we've talked about him a bit in the past. And because of the popularity that this video of him from the 60s was getting, he was being trafficked around in all these social. Trotted him out for the Alex has to bring him out to try and get whatever attention he can right from that. Yeah. Now that's all good and well.

G Edward Griffin does not have a problem with Alex because Alex way back hated the Federal Reserve and three senators. G Edward Griffin would come on Alex's old documentaries. Of course. They know each other from Ron Paulish circles. Yeah. Unfortunately. G Edward Griffin not so into Trump. Well, let's turn to COVID where Mr. Trump is the topic. He says this COVID thing is exaggerated and he says all the things that you're talking about and I am. And then he says, well, yeah, I'm ready to put the military out there. I'm happy to announce that we got the military ready to go force the vaccines on everybody. No, what? How do you put those two things together? I don't know. I agree. That really concerned me when he said that. Did it. Yeah. So you go up and down the

line, whether it's immigration or vaccines or why it's in the street. The words are one thing, but the actions are another. Oh, boy. Oh, boy. I don't want to engage with this, please. I'm talking with a G. Do something else. Talking to someone I can't disrespect. I agree. No, it was troubling what he said, but I want him to use a military to kill my enemy. We're now going to play a little game where I'm going to try and ask you to guess what he pivots to. Okay, because he doesn't want to talk about that. No. You know what? I'm going to go easy slam dunk abortion. Good guess. No. The words are one thing, but the actions are another. What do you make of Biden not able to talk and see in the rotting? There it is. What's the point

of that with the establishment? Why are they leaving these facades there? So what's really interesting here is, of course, Alex pivots to talking shit about the Democrats because he thinks that's safe territory. Yeah, it is not. Oh, when they've got other people behind the saints. Well, that's a good question. I mean, there are several possible answers. Maybe they really don't intend to, uh, to put up a good fight. Maybe they, for some reason, they want Mr. Trump to be in. That's a horrible thought, isn't it? Or they've got a placeholder ready that they're going to insert once Biden gets in. Yeah. And there's several possibilities. So now G. Edward Griffin has introduced the possibility

that the globalists want Trump to be president. This is a big problem for us. No, no, no, no. Okay. Okay. Next topic. Next topic. What do we got? He's lightning round this. That is anathema Alex's worldview. Oh, everything he said for the last four or five years cannot coexist with that idea. No, they have to be trying to kill him. G. Edward Griffin wrote the Beast from Jekyll Island. It's like one of the like original early days. John Birch guys never meet your heroes cannot handle this. So it leads to probably one of the most embarrassing things I've ever heard Alex. All right. And China broke its deal under Obama, started doing military expansionism. So they did the pivot and Trump, the globalists saw a populist movement.

And so the globalists said, Hey, let's get out of the way and let Trump and Bolsonaro and others get in and then we can negotiate better with China for a better deal. And really Trump doesn't even know this, but he's been put in and people did elect him to be a broker to get China to come to heal, which of course they won't. It's kind of like Hitler and Stalin had their pact and split Poland. And so you really want to analyze all this. That's my research view is that what he's doing, but he is trying to be popular and he's in there and he's trying to gauge everything and he's drawn from a swamp. And he's on our Messiah. He wrote in on a populist wave that isn't going away. So if you need an indication that Alex is having a bad time with this interview, it's that

he just said that. Wow. Yeah. Wow. That clip, which Alex says is based on his deep research opinion is kind of an invalidation of literally he's everything he's ever said about Trump. Everything. The first contradiction is that the globalists are supposed to hate Trump. They were supposed to have been working tooth and nail to stop Trump from winning the election. They carried out election fraud. They bust in people to vote in the names of dead people. Obama spied on Trump and set up this whole plan to get him impeached. But now Alex is suggesting that the globalists saw that there was populism going on. So they said, let's step out of the way and let Trump get in there. Well, yeah. That's a gigantic problem for Alex's narratives,

because if that's what he believes, he now has to find an explanation for all that globalist meddling he's been screaming about for the last four years. If the globalists decided to step aside and let Trump in, is Alex ready to admit he was making up everything about people being bust in to vote illegally? Is he ready to admit that there wasn't a grand conspiracy to entrap Trump associates that led to the election, you know, whatever in the lead up? I would imagine he's not and he's just saying this shit because he knows that G Edward Griffin isn't just going to blindly go along with his bullshit like most of his guests will. G Edward Griffin doesn't need Alex's dumb ass. He's a legend of anti communism. Alex needs him. The second big contradiction

in that clip is that the globalists decided to get Trump into office to get a better negotiating position with China, although Trump doesn't even know this. And also they're trying to kill him simultaneously. The poisoning is dire. Yeah, simultaneous. The problem here is that according to Alex, the globalists are in bed with China. They're basically partners in all of the evil plans Alex yells about all the time, so there's literally no reason they would need to elect an idiot president in order to get a better negotiating position with them. If there was some goal they had, they could just be like, hey, China, how about you help us out with this one thing that'll help our long term plans and then China be like cool on the surface. This is nonsense

that Alex is saying, but if you think about it for even a minute in that very short clip, Alex has directly contradicted a giant part of his shows mythology. Everything. Also not to be ignored in that analogy about Poland. I think Trump is Hitler. Yeah, he has to be if you assume China is the stand in for Poland that the two sides are negotiating about, you know, like the globalists and Trump on behalf of the populists. Obviously the globalists would be Stalin since they're communist demons, which leaves Trump as Hitler. Seems like a bad thing for Alex to be suggesting. Well, he is a white nationalist. Well, okay, Alex doesn't mean any of this and will probably pretend he never said it in the future. He's just trying to appease this legendary anti

communist guest who clearly doesn't trust Trump. And he thinks maybe that the globalist put Trump into office. Alex is bending the knee to Griffin because he knows he can't defend his position and he's not willing to get into a fight with someone who is way more credible in the far right than him and who is more willing to just go directly at his face. Yeah, like not who doesn't have a vested interest. Yeah, being foolish. I mean he is full of no he's absolutely full of not in the same ways as Alex and he's not going to try and maintain his relationship. Oh no, Alex is mad at me. I strongly disagree with G Edward Griffin and I think he's full of shit, but I will say that from everything I understand about him. He said a pretty rigid position for

like 50 years, 60 years. So like I don't I don't think that he is the sort who is going to be like, oh yeah. All right, Alex, all yes and with you. Yeah, no kidding. Yeah, Alex on the other hand has no principles. Nothing matters. And so when G Edward Griffin gives him some sort of pushback on like, yeah, you know, Biden's a weak candidate because the establishment and the globalists want Trump to be in power. Alex will create an entirely new story line and then just be in an instant and then toss it aside. Yep, whatever gets me out of this argument. How confused I'm a narcissistic psychopath, but how confusing must that be if you listen to his show and believe him? I don't know. It's so confusing. I don't know. Yeah, I just don't know. I don't

know how anybody could listen to the show period right without experiencing some serious pain. Yeah, you know like something in your brain has to you have to just five up. Yeah, you have to give up. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. We get two more clips left here from June 26th and and I would submit these as one reason from Alex and one reason from G Edward Griffin, why nobody should ever support Trump. Okay, but they're not necessarily being presented as bad things, which I think is weird that here's here's Alex's looking at Trump. I was talking to somebody very close to him just the other day and they said, listen, Trump, you got to know how to manipulate him. Come out and say Bill Gates is more powerful than him and really the president

and Trump will squash him. And it's actually true. And I can't bring myself to play manipulative games. I just can't get into that mode. But that's the problem with Trump is literally if we just run headlines that Bill Gates is more powerful than him, and that he's really the president, then Trump will stop him, which we need. But we should say no, he's killing people. He's evil. He's a globalist. He's with China. But again, what does that say about Trump? He's a baby. And he's a gullible moron. Yeah, that's what you're just describing. You're saying to you said out loud. It is incredibly easy to manipulate the president of the United States who has nuclear weapons by appealing to his ego. All you have to do is appeal to the president's ego and then he

will crush your enemies for you. Trump, that guy over there says he's stronger than you. Exactly like what can you what can you do? How do you think that that's the president that you want? A man with an iron will incorruptible, although you can just say anything to him and make him feel insecure and then he'll kill. Yeah. Hey, great. Trump Luxembourg said you suck. Yeah, no kidding. Oh, man. No more Luxembourg. Oh, dude. I would say that there's almost no more compelling argument for like not voting for him that I could have suggested. There's there's a no more compelling argument for being run by an AI than this bullshit. Like if you if you think that that's a possibility, it's inconceivable that you can say that and think like. Well, this is this makes my guy sound

good. This guy is a hero or I mean, because obviously he's not saying this as like a necessarily like a great thing. He's saying it is like as one of his human failings. Hey, look, we all have blind spots. That's a big one. That might be the biggest one you could have. Right. Yeah, almost makes it seem like anybody with ill will that's good at manipulating him could basically be the president. Oh, it does sound like that, doesn't it? Yeah, I'd rather not be in that situation. So now G. Edward Griffin comes to the plate and he has his own thing. Trump or any other president for many decades is not his own authority. He takes direction from those who got him into office. He takes directions from those who have billions of

dollars to throw around. He takes directions from people who may have secrets that he doesn't want told. In other words, he takes direction from the deep state, even though he's out there saying he's against the deep state. He probably how far have we come now that the deep state's out in the oven? Because I mean, you were using terms like you talked 50 years ago. Good pivot there, Alex, because you don't want to talk about how G. Edward Griffin just said that Trump takes orders from billionaire donors and people have blackmail on. Oh, man, do you know? Oh, boy, that sounds like something that everybody's known for ever. And Alex knew back in 20, 25. Oh God, I hate these people so much. We're just going on a lap. What are we doing? What are we fucking doing? I don't

know. It's interesting though to see G. Edward Griffin come in because he is someone who like Joel Scousen is like like legacy type anti-communist guys. Scousen less so because most of his credibility comes from being related to W. Cleon Scousen. That still counts for a lot. But of his own accord, G. Edward Griffin doesn't need Alex. And so the conversation that the two of them have, there's an entire power imbalance because also G. Edward Griffin isn't as interested as someone like Steve Pachennik in just abusing Alex for his own manipulative games. Just for fun. Yeah. Yeah. He's bored. Pachennik is bored. Right. And G. Edward Griffin has his own industry. Like he has his own books that he sells and like he doesn't need Alex as a promotional tool.

So the dynamic there is pretty fascinating. And I think Alex comes out strongly on the losing end of it. I would find that to be humiliating. If I went home after work that day and I was Alex and I was like, I just fucking said on air that the globalists wanted Trump to win and maybe they are only using him to get a better bargaining position with. What am I saying? Do you know what Alex sounds like? A globalist compared to G. Edward. It sounds like Alex is taking the side of the globalist. I don't know, man. It's sad. And I salute you, Alex, on your play. Yeah. So we'll see what happens on and the aftermath of his rally. We'll see what happens on our next episode. But I did. I did watch a little bit of it and it was disappointing

like his rally. I can't. I can't wait for him to come in studio on Monday and be like. This was a huge success. The best rally anyone's ever seen. Nobody's ever seen a rally better than this. Yeah. I look forward to that quite a bit. But we will check in on that on our next episode. But for now, we have a website. We do have a website. It's Knowledge Fight.com. Yep. We also on Twitter. We are on Twitter. It's at Knowledge Fight. And I go to bed, Jordan. Yep. We're also on Facebook. We are Facebook. Go to iTunes. Tell us your rate. Leave a review. And then if you could, please find a local charity or bail fund in your area and donate to that. We'll be back. But until then, I'm Neo. I'm Neo. I'm Leo. I'm DZX Clark. I am G. Edward Griffin, but the Griffin is the

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