Knowledge Fight - #456: July 9-11, 2020

Episode Date: July 13, 2020

Today, Dan and Jordan discuss the end of the last week on The Alex Jones Show. In this installment, Alex wrestles with the "Wayfair Conspiracy" and celebrates Roger Stone's clemency by interviewing Ma...ncow.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys knowledge I stand and do it knowledge fight need money stop it Andy in Kansas Andy in Kansas it's time to pray Andy in Kansas you're on the earth thanks for holding hello Alex I'm Mr. Finn Collin I'm a huge fan I love your work knowledge fight knowledge fight.com I love you everybody welcome back knowledge fight I'm Dan I'm Jordan we're couple dudes like sit around drinking all the two beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones oh indeed we are Dan Jordan Jordan quick question for you what's your bright spot today wow my bright spot why don't you go ahead and go
Starting point is 00:01:12 first because I got a little bit of a segment oh okay all right my bright spot is my partner and I played tennis for the first time like ten months I know you guys love tennis we love tennis we thought that the because the park next to us where we played tennis was completely torn down yeah we thought that the tennis courts were gone to oh but it turns out there was an opening and we could have gone for the past like four months so it's real disappointing but it was great to play tennis is good to get out you know what maybe the time away from it it justifies the like how good it feels to go back justifies the time away sure sure sure bright side guy today I like it I like it so my bright spot Jordan
Starting point is 00:01:52 yes sir you got to look in the mail bag okay checking in the mail bag for my bright spot okay first of all I'd like to say thank you to Stephen Stephen D who sent a gift card for diamond gosset jeans did not come in the mail over email but still very appreciated I have not ordered them yet the random size jeans but I will keep you updated on that we're going to take bets on the size that shows how funny is this they're like a couple years ago we find a commercial on alex's show for some stupid jeans that are anti nafta or whatever and now here we are yeah we live kind of a ridiculous life yeah but it's very nice and I appreciate it Stephen thank you so much very much thank you and then second
Starting point is 00:02:39 Jordan I'd like to direct your attention at this holy shit that is a knife that's an that is in that you are holding that is threateningly this is all right there you go crocodile don't be shit yeah I got that is a knife yeah got a cool handcrafted knife that's awesome in the in the mail also got this little letter Dan and Jordan thank you so much for the work you guys do I honestly appreciate it the show gives me facts to use against my crazy right wing family also it's great waking up three times a week getting excited for something if you guys are ever find yourself in Columbus parentheses hashtag flavor town hell yeah okay rename hit me up if you want to go eat forage something or even ride horses take care policy
Starting point is 00:03:19 wonk chris that's that's very nice of you chris that's really really fucking cool that knife is amazing yeah absolutely thank you for sending a note with that because just mailing a knife to somebody has a very different connotation yeah it's it would maybe be startling under other circumstances a horse head show up at your door so chris has a thing a page a thing over on Etsy called folk of ag and vangers for folk vanguards for I'm going to spell it and f o l k v a n g r apostrophe s is for g f o r g e okay vanguards for sure vangers I don't know I'm better pronounce I'm better pronouncing things but I went over and I actually looked at a lot of the designs he has up on there and there's a lot of really cool looking stuff
Starting point is 00:04:11 he handcrafts knives and various cutlery very for for kitchens and from what I understand actually if I understand this note correctly there is another one that's going to come so you and I will each get one of these knives and that will lead to our ultimate showdown as was always meant to be yes perhaps so thank you so much chris really appreciate it and I can't wait for that other knife to come so we can do battle yes that'd be great as you are holding that very threateningly from now on also incompetently I feel like I could take that away from you pretty easy not a chance okay from now on the rest of the podcast will be with us now knives out well you can't say that that's uh copyrighted oh fair enough great movie I've not seen it I'm
Starting point is 00:04:54 just aware that it exists don't know anything about it just I've heard a name hey it's great so Jordan today we got an interesting episode to go over we got any big news I will say that this weekend has been a lot of fun because I have been just coming off the end of like a lot of work around the house sure got air conditioning units put in the windows that took a lot more effort out of me than I would have hoped it would have naturally you help me put together a bed frame great looks great so I got a lot of that stuff going on my life is feeling pretty good I feel very close to sort of adult turning up to an adult friday night rolls around yes I'm getting ready to go to bed in my bed that's on a frame for the first time in 15 years
Starting point is 00:05:42 incredible right no news could take you off that pedestal right on twitter roger stone sentence commuted great not unexpected no I believe I said he would never spend a day in yeah yeah and I kind of like in my heart of hearts in my deep down I didn't think he was probably going to go to prison but I also thought it would be pretty wild for trump to do it yeah to commute his sentence or pardon him or give him clemency and so I thought there was a chance that that would be too much but I it shows it shows that you shouldn't really second guess those sorts of things and it makes total sense and you really think about it to like to string it out a bit oh yeah for ratings I find it all hilarious the trump made him beg for so long makes me laugh
Starting point is 00:06:29 very hard I mean who knows what the actual dynamic is but certainly how it looks yeah it does so yeah a lot of people were suggesting you know I got some messages on twitter and around to people are saying hey emergency episode Roger got parted sure and my sense of it was I need to wait because I think Alex is going to you know Saturday he's probably gonna do an emergency episode so let's let's settle down on this he's the emergency guy we do our show yeah yeah but sometimes it's fun to throw out an emergency episode that's true so I decided to wait for Monday when we would have his Saturday work together because the the announcement was on Friday and so Saturday he has all day of course you should be able to put together quite a pageant
Starting point is 00:07:15 and a celebration victory lap unheard of yes and so we'll see what happens with that today our episode is actually going to be covering the period of the 9th July 9th through July 11th 2020 I'm Dan this is 2020 damn it and yeah so the 9th not much not going to talk about much on that episode 10th is the day of the commuting the day of the clemency and so we're going to talk about that and then the 11th is Saturday where Alex came into studio did a special two hour fuck yeah emergency episode he played all of nipsey hustles victory lap for an hour that was it he it was less that and more I don't know man I feel really weird about this because like I know that there's probably going to be some people tuning in that are going to be like you know there's going to be
Starting point is 00:08:05 something special from us yeah yeah I don't know why would you expect Alex to bring it now I don't want to no no no what happens is going to be great podcast for us okay okay but like I don't like okay if you're expecting some kind of like the narrative of like roger stone has been vindicated shows up on a on a white horse on info war sure sure to tell everyone to kiss his ass that's not going to happen really yes it's got to happen though come on but you you really expect that that's going to be the thing that happens on this Saturday show and absolutely I want to make sure that no one thinks that I am trying to tease that to keep you listening to the end this episode could be a little bit long there's a lot of bullshit that happens I believe that so before we get
Starting point is 00:08:52 down to business on that though Jordan we're going to take a moment to say thank you to some folks who have signed up and are supporting the show so first chase tea thank you so much you're now policy wonk I'm a policy wonk thanks chase you next Jordan's giggle that's you that's me thank you so much you're now policy wonk I'm a policy wonk thank you Jordan's giggle you're not going to do the game you know I don't even know what giggle they're talking about like the pills we're no boy alright thank you next Trevor thank you so much you're now policy wonk I'm a policy wonk thanks next James why thank you so much you're now a policy wonk I'm a policy wonk thank you James next MC but it's em and then see last initial okay thank you so much you're now a policy
Starting point is 00:09:31 wonk I'm a policy wonk thank you em see thank you next zack and then in parentheses yes bill this is your colleagues zach thank you so much you're now policy wonk I'm a policy wonk thank you exact next quality why you thank you so much you're now a policy wonk I'm a policy wonk thanks Colleen and finally I'd like to thank you to a couple people who donated on an elevated level we appreciate that very much so first David H thank you so much you are now a technocrat and the soil will save us thank you so much you are now a technocrat I'm a policy wonk crikey mate that's fantastic have yourself a brew how's your 401k doing bro all right we got to go full tilt buggy on this Watson all right let's just get down to business we ain't making that money
Starting point is 00:10:08 off that heroin why are you pimp so good my neck is freakishly large I declare info war on you thank you so much uh if you're out there listening anything and hey I enjoy the show I'd like to support these gens too you can do that by going to our website knowledge fight.com clicking the button says support the show we appreciate it yes or you can take that generosity bundle it up real nice give it a little bindle underhand pitch underhand pitch underhand pitch okay all right just casual recreational softball style softball just out of the park with your friends all right playing a little pick up game and toss it over to a charity in your area that helps people in got you um so yeah Jordan here we go uh one really quick thing I don't have a whole
Starting point is 00:10:48 lot to announce about the year of the year the seltzer but I do need to point one thing out and that is um that I did get a message from Bailey uh listener Bailey who pointed out that I may have have ranked a single seltzer twice and I might have given them two different ratings might have done that how far apart I don't want to talk about it you don't want to talk about real far apart not super far apart not not so far apart that it would blow your mind 15 less less than 15 okay that that's in the margin of error I feel I own I don't look we're going to pretend this didn't happen and I've decided I talked to the uh the commissioners which is me and uh we decided that the uh the first ranking stands okay and so the other one has been evacuated okay okay is that
Starting point is 00:11:41 the right word no vacated that's it they vacated the second scoring uh thank you for pointing that out Bailey that would have been really humiliating and I don't want this to get out publicly although I'm saying it on a podcast so Jordan yes sir down to business okay a lot of a lot of it too much business up too much business but too much business really to cover I don't even think we can look at now there's just too much to cover I don't even think we can get to it in this segment no probably not no let's go off air yeah let's get I'm going to go to a special report so we start on the ninth and one of the reasons that I kept this in as opposed to just focusing entirely on like the eleventh is because I think that there's a little bit of a narrative
Starting point is 00:12:18 arc to it okay and that is that Alex he knows that's you know something's probably coming for Roger sure Roger Stone joins us coming up at the bottom of the next hour and he's got big news and it's it's so big that I just think I'm gonna let him cover what he wants to cover and I'm not even gonna give me any preludes or any hints but let's say this in the next six days before he's scheduled to be sent to prison this is a hint for a crime he didn't commit as a political prisoner he did he's gonna work to make this the exclusive first place he comes on now if he gets pardoned or gets clemency in the next few days it you will six o'clock at night and I don't answer the phone immediately and if I can't get a crew down here in 20 minutes we won't get the exclusive
Starting point is 00:13:07 that's okay I just wanted to get clemency or pardon so I told him just make the first phone call and we can't get stuff fired up you know go ahead and go on fox news or whatever so this to me sounds like preemptive rationalization translation he's not going to go on our show first probably at the point where Tucker will have him on and he knows there's better ratings there now that's just because I'm going to be drunk at six he's so drunk at six that he just can't come into work right it's his fault really now now Roger's gonna do everything he can to give me the exclusive whatever the idea that Roger would have to work hard like hey man I'm going to put in the time yeah to make you a phone call to you so that's why it's good that alex's report about Roger's
Starting point is 00:13:52 shit is on Saturday yeah because then it sort of takes away the whole like need for the exclusive no press Friday night you know he could do that little like that little impromptu press conference and then you know Saturday uh spell roll around in the shit with your buddy absolutely waggle his dick around oh oh so I will say this what's that alex does cover the way fair conspiracy oh of course he does I knew it would have on the saturday show I knew it would have so i'll tease that okay Jesus christ of course he does yeah so get ready for that god I hate everyone bullshit I hate everyone so much alex it was one of the more interesting things alex has done in a while actually his position on it is very very bizarre frankly I think they should change the name
Starting point is 00:14:35 so we on the ninth here he just starts you know talking about whatever you know just his normal shit just filling time talking about the evils of abortion right and it just came out the lawsuits from a decade ago are just now winning where the FDA was paying across the nation hundreds of thousands of dollars millions of dollars total for quote fresh baby parts with still beating hearts Berkeley in in one particular filing that just came out last year said we want beating hearts and so they would deliver them a carly ma actually in a box and they would butcher them right there on the spot just like I can pick up you know order some hot wings or whatever now now where is pita not caring
Starting point is 00:15:29 about all this and by the way if you're new this is all on record just like that university ordered beating hearts of babies what where is pita in all this I don't know so this unsurprisingly is a story that alex is completely lying about and generally I might have just ignored it but it kind of bothered me how at the end he was just like you can look it up whenever he says something like that it's really hard for me to resist it's a challenge it's a straight up challenge this is from that batch of edited videos that were released in 2015 by the center for medical progress which was that anti-abortion outlet that engaged in project veritas style undercover video propaganda pieces I'm starting to think they're not really a center
Starting point is 00:16:06 for medical progress no medical regress when it comes down what this comes down to is the an erroneous claim that's made in that center for medical progress videos which is then exaggerated and distorted the video claims that a procedure that's being done by stanford university researchers not Berkeley this procedure is called a langendorf perfusion they say that it requires a beating heart to be done having established this erroneous piece of information the video makers then try to demonstrate that heart tissue had been provided to stanford which they're able to do which is then used to present as evidence that beating human hearts have been delivered to stanford sure great i'm fine with it on a very basic level this is really sloppy work and in order for the
Starting point is 00:16:47 tree of logic to follow appropriately you need for all the pieces to stand up to scrutiny if one piece is bad this whole argument collapses so the fact that langendorf perfusions do not require beating hearts kind of destroys the entire point here everything else could be true namely that stanford researchers do this procedure and they've obtained obtained heart tissue for it but and and the claim the main claim that they've been given beating hearts can be false you can have all that other stuff be true sure and the part that you want to be the point the biggest false yes and as it turns out the langendorf perfusions that are done involving human stem cell research don't require a beating heart so this whole thing ultimately
Starting point is 00:17:27 proves nothing the thing to remember here though is that alex is even lying about the fake thing that he's reporting on the stuff about babies arriving at the university and boxes and then butchering the babies that's just his own fantasies that's just the story he wants to tell his audience to scare them and make them hate his imagined enemies even more sure so it's it's kind of a hat on a hat of disgusting anti-abortion propaganda here who teaches you how to properly butcher a baby you know like is that an apprenticeship thing or do you get that right out of med school i don't know it's also not at all like ordering wings you don't have to butcher the wings yeah i mean they don't send you where you're ordering the wings from very rarely
Starting point is 00:18:07 send you a chicken that's a fair point you might not be thinking all that's great just like ordering wings sure so alex goes on a little bit more about this sort of topic sure or fda ordered fresh baby parts that just came out last week there's thousands of these articles so that's who they are they want to murder you and your family that's another thing he said you can look up so i decided to go ahead and look that up sure this is about a judicial watch scoop so already already it's right on target they uncovered that the fda had a contract worth 96 000 between the time of 2012 in 2018 with a company called advanced biosciences resources where they would be provided with fetal tissue for experiments from everything i can tell this is just about stem cells and there's
Starting point is 00:18:51 nothing wrong going on here they've uncovered nothing other than something to anger their anti-abortion base hold on hold on are you saying that the fda spent such a ridiculous sum of money 96 000 dollars 96 000 of taxpayer money that's what we should focus on dan that's a very small amount for whatever the conspiracy they're trying to spin is it doesn't really rise to the level of what they're like it's making a conspiracy about your boss's petty cash would if this isn't illegal like human organ trafficking operation sure with proceeds right up to 95 000 it's like i don't think most people would get mixed up with that for that kind of a big whatever they're taking off the top you could infect somebody with covet and as we know get 95 000 easy easy
Starting point is 00:19:43 that's what you got to do anyway trump ended these contracts in 2018 but there's got them there's no indication that i can find that i know is doing anything illegal or unethical so i mean i just this just seems like blabbering yeah so alex is also in the business of being real denialist about the surge in coronavirus cases this is basically thinks it's all fraud so here's some of the headlines us corona cases rise above 60 000 setting single day record for one day that's Reuters should read as testing continues to ramp up to record levels the number of positive skyrockets and most positives are fraudulent believe the headline that i just read before we started recording was uh yesterday florida had 15 000 positive tests so yep good good good good
Starting point is 00:20:33 good um so i mostly stuck around on this this uh july 9th for the sake of roger of course i mostly was like what's roger gonna be doing stone news yeah yeah so unfortunately when alex tries to go to roger there's some sky problems all you gotta do is let yourself go all right i'm not normally just gonna sing a song or wait on roger stone having perpetual skype issues but he's got big breaking news uh with us here he told me a lot but but we'll see how much he can say about what's going on he's just six days out from his imprisonment so apparently alex only sings when there's skype issues which means that all those other times we've heard him singing yeah constantly he's uh just experiencing uh skype problems yeah i believe the years from 2009 to 2015 were entirely skype
Starting point is 00:21:24 problems yeah i'm pretty sure every single in and out of break just skype problems so roger got kicked off some social media stuff uh and uh there's a nice spin on that okay and he's also got analysis on an unprecedented censorship balcenaro is under the same attack saying that his fans aren't allowed to talk about him or post his speeches or material well now facebook has done that to roger stone on facebook and instagram quote cracks down on inauthentic activity so ahead of his pardon or ahead of his clemency of him having to go to prison if the president doesn't act they are silencing everyone that might cry out against this and another giant authoritarian exercise of evil so this is not a case of facebook just kicking off fans of roger or balcenaro
Starting point is 00:22:17 in both cases the company found that employees of balcenaro's government and roger stone were operating networks of accounts to push coordinated misinformation all right now when i the way that sentence came out of my mouth sounded bad because it sounds like those two networks are connected no and that was not what i was implying balcenaro and his government has a network that was being used to push false information as did roger stone they both have their own unique hybrid bot network that they're using unclear if it was bots necessarily or like just someone running a bunch of yeah combination of the two according to bbc reporting on the matter quote facebook said it had removed 54 accounts 50 pages and four instagram accounts that it had linked uh to mr stone these
Starting point is 00:23:00 pages would pose as a person not connected to roger and then promote things that he wanted to promote to give the appearance of organic engagement again from the bbc quote in total those behind the pages spent about 308 thousand dollars on facebook advertising and then a editorial note on my part three times what the fda spent six years um for those contracts there is that from this piece the sense you get is that the network that bolcenaro was running was more focused on political maneuvering whereas rogers was mostly geared at self promotion roger claims that he's gonna sue so if i had to guess he's gonna yell about the his innocence on any platform that'll have him on or use the attention to try and raise money and then they'll admit that he was running all those
Starting point is 00:23:44 pages in about five years in some sort of an interview with playboy or something well it's not that big a deal right so this is the game i'm getting kicked off all this social media because woe is me i'm a victim why won't anybody let a white man speak on this very loud radio show now roger is is his uh main point has seemed to be i'm gonna die if i go to prison because of covid 19 is going to kill the 19 which the biggest fear in the world italics believes is a hoax and is a hoax but is gonna kill roger if he goes to prison yes seems hard to balance those ideas but they keep trying you guilty of thought crime are about to be sentenced to possible death if you believe they're whole covid situation and it's true if you present food you don't get d3 you
Starting point is 00:24:26 don't get zinc uh also uh i mean who knows what they'll pull on you in prison i'd be worried about them you know winding up somebody to beat you to death see that should have been the angle the whole time yeah of course the beating you to death or something yeah that should have been the whole play this whole covid thing is not going to work with the narratives that you have although i do appreciate alex trying there with the like prison foods bad yeah no i did like the d you don't get your vitamins you don't get your zinc by the way i sell zinc but anyways moving on to you yeah that's the that is an okay way to try to make this work but it's just foolish but that's what roger that's the kind of angle that roger needs because it's the kind of thing that people who don't like
Starting point is 00:25:07 him would still kind of have to begrudgingly be like yeah right you are a nonviolent criminal you're not really a threat to anybody you probably should be on house arrest if there is a real danger to your health right he knows that that's a really difficult argument to rebut if even if you don't like him that's why he was employing it but it's stupid for alex to join in with right i would argue though that he had to employ it because he was because stone was anything stone was also though talking to the judge so the judge can listen to the covet argument the judge isn't going to listen to roger saying like hey they might kill me in here because i know too much well yeah no no no look i i understand roger's actions attire totally totally i don't understand
Starting point is 00:25:50 alex's he's trying to do too many things at the same time it just starts to make no sense yeah so when i said that um you know the bbc was reporting that roger had these accounts and facebook said they did sure you'll be you should notice that i did not say that roger did this roger allegedly did this okay because i don't want to get sued fine here's the other point if you're a journalist say with the wall street journal perfect example and you report this as a fact without saying allegedly or may have i'm coming after you too roger you are absolutely right again that's why when i say we're all roger stone they're coming after everybody i could play cnn clips msnb clips new york times articles but they say after we get trump and roger
Starting point is 00:26:40 stoner alex jones and and all of trump's friends we're going to punish all these people at every level we're going to go after millions of people i mean these are terrorists these are authoritarians these are the real mccoy these are the enemy roger you still there well that ended on a good note with roger his internet was cut off today probably accidentally he was on the phone he wasn't on skype because they couldn't get the skype couldn't get the skype to work so i don't know what that has to do with his internet now they also cannot get the phone to work right this is not a good operation but it ended on a good note roger threatening to sue people it ended on a good note you gotta end on a high note it was a pretty short interview and
Starting point is 00:27:27 that is really the high point of it is roger's phone cutting out and yeah he allegedly had all these bots and shit because i don't want to get sure um yeah i like that you know it's kind of like the old roger threatening people yeah yeah you like almost feels like at this point he knows he's cool oh oh yeah he's free yeah yeah although this is still thursday so he's still he shouldn't know this at this point yeah you kind of get the sense that like he has uh he's got the information he's going on in fours and threatening to sue people who report on his his bot farm alleged bot farm the tone of his previous interviews that we've covered have been very much please god please give me one there's still a bit of like really over playing the religiousness and my new found
Starting point is 00:28:14 like as soon as i decided to love god everything turned around you know there's still some of that but he does not say i'd fuck it is not discussed praying to trump no uh this time now if we know one thing from our time doing this show what's that alex is totally fine when tech doesn't work oh yeah no he is he's not mad at the crew damn he's not mad at the crew he's not mad at the crew he's the kind of guy who's like he's the guy you want with you when there's trouble yeah because he keeps his head about him oh of course yeah he's the kind of guy you want behind the wheel when you hit some ice hey he's the kind of guy who knows that you just you know tap on the brick it keeps keeps calm and knows exactly knows how to keep everyone safe doesn't freak out crisis
Starting point is 00:29:00 management is his name roger you're there i've i've learned when to tap out guys i've just i don't want to tap out all right i have my instincts i'm ready to tap out roger's not there i'm not gonna you know the most amateur thing on talk radio howard stern does this recalls yes prank callers call a radio station and then act like they're a guest or a caller and then go hello hello and then say a little something and then not be there and then say a little i i i have a pet pee and it's that it roger's cell phones out and so i'm not going to do this thing where i go back and forth and back and forth and back and forth and back i'm not doing it anyways the ongoing technical difficulties are fun they are fun and i refuse to wallow in them
Starting point is 00:29:54 i'm telling you man because it's it's not that it's doing it over and over and over and over and over and over again the failure they're the criminals everywhere the devil doctors killing all the old people and the liars like bill gates and we all just sit here while they crap all over us okay there is the un well sascha berkeland says i might want to talk about this a little bit of me arrested but i'm gonna talk about it in fact get cohen cute up if we're able to do that great crew i'm not i'm not mad at them i'm just it's little amateur pet pee things i have that we're done with everybody
Starting point is 00:30:37 we're done we're done over we're done done done done done done done done done done done done ever again ever again ever again all right whoa holy shit that was a roller coaster that was fantastic you know here's my favorite part about this which was your favorite first of all all of it yeah fantastic fantastic just art yeah my favorite part for sure though is that it begins the freak out with him talking about how it's amateurish on radio shows when you hear someone say hello hello and they can't hear each other you know it doesn't sync up quite right and then he does two minutes screaming about how this keeps happening on his show that's the most amateurish thing over and over and over and over
Starting point is 00:31:25 and over again you know it's amateur not being able to roll with the fucking punch constantly freaking out whenever you have like uh tech difficulties at your uh million dollar studio yeah that's amateurish yeah you think uh you think i've never done how many shows have i been on in the in the middle of fucking nowhere where all of a sudden the microphone cuts out and i just got a toss it aside and continue doing the goddamn show i don't stop and scream at the bartender no you're a bad you're a bad practitioner of your craft if you are unable to ingrate it if you're like really early on in doing stand-up you probably shouldn't be expected to be able to handle that absolutely let's say you've been doing it for i don't know 20 something years on a professional
Starting point is 00:32:05 level you would think you probably should be able to let's say the lights go out that's a challenge but you should be able to handle it my mic goes off you should be able to handle you should not be completely fucked up by it now let's say you're doing a month of shows at a certain place yeah and the mic keeps going out again and again and again and again and again and again let's say the 15th time it happens you still can't handle it and somehow you haven't been able to talk to the manager or the guy behind the tech booth and figure out what the fuck is going on with the mic going out you can't fix it it's impossible to fix i would argue you're a bad performer you're a bad comedian true you're not caring um yeah there's just you're failing on a
Starting point is 00:32:49 whole lot of levels and you're lazy the other word i would use is amateurish yes but damn it do i love those those those freakouts although that one did give me chills a little bit like it felt a little realer at points yeah just of the like real intense anger there's a there's a there's a there's a level of repetition that we get to that stops being performative and starts being a representation of psychosis yeah but again and again and again and again and again you're like okay i get you but you do it 30 more times and you're like you need maybe or it's filling time could be might have realized lal i got nothing else to do 20 seconds to break i could just say done done done over and over again we'll get there we'll get to the break we'll get to the
Starting point is 00:33:34 break that's true time time continues rest of the show does not matter so we jump back in on the 10th here and alex is getting ready for um the 2020 election sure and basically what we've got in front of us is two possibilities one trump wins or trump uh wins uh but it looks like it's stolen it looks like biden's won because there's a coup okay 115 planet rotations we are in the middle of what will be a giant contested election the cherry on top the detonator to take this country into hot civil war inside the pentagon everyone is being approached and being asked will you support a coup against president trump okay so that's gonna be the theme of this episode yeah most part there's a coup which we learned about already on alex's show because joe biden had to go talk
Starting point is 00:34:35 shit on the daily show oh he's gonna coup unveil the coup plans hey i think trump's insane and he might try and stay in power thing is obviously him saying he's gonna take over that's a coup yep so in order to defend his argument alex has a couple of articles that he's using as like the big the big tent poles here sure and they don't really work but he tries well now i have the council on fine relations america's democratic unraveling on page 50 on page five it says the armed forces will be needed to remove trump that if he can test the election in any way he will be removed by the u.s military naturally alex has not read this article in the foreign affairs and honestly probably he's just hoping no one in his audience does either it's a pretty savage laying out of
Starting point is 00:35:29 the various ways that our country's structure and government have been usurped by trump and the right wing's drive for power and it's honestly pretty fair handed the central thesis of this article is that erosion of norms and the structure of our society is a gradual process but the collapse comes very fast it's very well articulated in this passage quote as james robinson and i argue in our recent book the narrow corridor democratic institutions restrain elected leaders by enabling a delicate balance of oversight by different branches of government the legislature and the judiciary and political action by regular people whether in the form of voting and elections or exerting pressure via protest but democratic institutions rest on norms compromise cooperation
Starting point is 00:36:11 respect for truth and are bolstered by an active self-confidence citizenry and a free press when democratic values come under attack and the press and civil society are neutralized the institutional safeguards lose their power under such conditions the transgressions of those in power go unpunished or become normalized the gradual erosion of checks and balances thus gives way to sudden institutional collapse yeah that's a pretty fair assessment of you know yeah so this article argues that trump has been playing a very authoritarian playbook since he began his presidency quote by dismissing concerns about russian interference in the u.s election refusing to disclose his tax returns openly pursuing policies that serve his family's financial interests vilifying hispanic
Starting point is 00:36:55 and muslim americans propagating conspiracy theories and relentlessly lying to the press the president has left practically no norm of democratic governance unviolated these actions not only weaken the institutions that are supposed to restrain the president but also further polarized the u.s electorate creating a constituency that unconditionally supports trump out of fear that the democrats will take power the author darin asmoglu is a professor of economics at mit that discusses how nothing is certain and that things aren't too far gone for us to course correct but that probably is going to be if it does happen it's going to be a long painful process and it's probably impossible if trump is reelected his consistent pattern of behaving as a singular
Starting point is 00:37:39 dictatorish leader who's not constrained by any of the normal things that make our system function would continue and asmoglu is of the opinion that in that situation there's really nothing that could stop the administration and everything from collapsing yeah of course not a fair point is made that quote even if democratic candidate joe biden wins the upcoming election his new administration would confront damage that it will be powerless to fix unless it under addresses the deep structural problems that propelled trumpet office in the first place so that's a nice recognition of the fact that it's not a easy fix even if the article has nothing to do with the contested election or the military being used to remove trump alex is saying saying those things is
Starting point is 00:38:19 a clear indication that he didn't read this article or he has no interest in discussing what it actually says the line alex is taking out of context comes from a paragraph that's discussing how trump is not at this point like at this point completely free from all institutional constraints sure there are some judges who are pushing back on his clearly illegal executive orders for example the article the article goes on to say quote the armed forces may be able to restrain him as well as evidenced by the forceful rebuke you received from former defense secretary james mattis after threatening to deploy the u.s. military and national guard against protesters but it would be a sad day if americans had to depend on the military to save their democracy
Starting point is 00:38:58 and the trend is toward fewer not more checks on the president's power if the last remaining restraints give way the fall towards autocracy will be swift that's a sentence that is about military resistance to trump using the army against protesters which ends by lamenting how sad a world you it is that you would even have to consider the possibility that our system has eroded to the point where none of our institutions have any ability to contain the unchecked power of an aspiring dictator and you have to speculate about what would happen if the military was the last check left that's not saying the same thing alex is claiming it is anyway alex is a liar and this is a good but depressing article particularly in the context of trump just
Starting point is 00:39:37 commuting roger stone sentence for crimes he almost certainly carried out to advance the interests of trump himself yeah i i really am uh i'm really disappointed in in trump there because it seems it seems like he made a grave miscalculation uh in not cozying up to the military you know like from day one i think he's been trying yeah but he's just been doing a really shitty job at it it's it's almost like his inherent personality flaws keep him from really taking advantage of what a demagogue could do in his situation like this would be a this would be a dictatorship you know like three years ago if you had done it right it's not hard it will like look at the look at the council of foreign relations list of things that trump is doing to erode the norms
Starting point is 00:40:23 that all happened before he got elected me what's the list that he didn't do during the campaign you're talking about from this article yeah yeah yeah where it was like russian interference demonizing his way and all of that stuff happened before i mean to be fair yeah to be fair he didn't openly pursue policies that served as financial interests when he wasn't in a position to do that becoming president is a policy that openly pursues his financial interest president isn't a policy i see oh fine fine i'll give him that fine he's he just broke the law on day one in his election i'm just saying you can't use the presidency to enrich yourself when you don't have the presidency you can use the illusion of the possible future
Starting point is 00:41:08 presidency fair fair that's not an abuse of power yet running for president to sell books is something that a lot of people it's a very normal thing yeah that's not like which is also an issue we should i don't disagree i think it's fucked up but that's not the same as using the that's not corruption of the office that's corruption of the process i guess look let's not get too deep into the weeds okay i agree with you for the most part but i also disagree slightly and we'll leave it there for now because alex has another article about how there's a coup and all that shit here's a new one out of the stanford advocate anyone saying that he will not leave will be arrested trump could lose and not leave the
Starting point is 00:41:48 cabinet members who try to help face prison so this is actually an article that alex found in the stanford advocate not stanford and it's actually just a reposting of an article from the washington post sure this article is really just a legal analysis about how unlikely it is that trump will refuse to step down if he loses in november the reason for that is because in order for him to pull that off he would need to persuade the entire executive branch to do so as well when doing so puts them in a very serious legal jeopardy the point of the piece is well summed up by the closing paragraph quote nothing can with total certainty ensure a normal transition of power from uh as abnormal a president as donald trump but it's vital to recognize that if trump tries to
Starting point is 00:42:31 retain power illegitimately he'll need help from his cabinet members of that cabinet should go on the record pledging their ultimate adherence not to trump but to the constitution and the laws of the united states it would be a lot of people they would face so terrifying legal consequences oh no not legal consequences there's no way to get around legal consequences i understand i understand what you're saying it would be a gigantic thing you need a lot of people to join in with yeah which i mean it's not inconceivable but it's not as big like it the the the issue here is that whether or not trump would be able to successfully do that even gesturing towards it is a problem and yes and even if he doesn't have an executive branch to fulfill the duties
Starting point is 00:43:21 that you need to run a government sure even if he still said i'm the legitimate president of that causes just as big of a problem oh yeah totally um so i don't know anyway this is something that alex should support the the point of this article because alex is supposed to love america and the constitution all those things like the constitution yeah it's not like this article is even taking trump losing as a certainty like it explicitly says quote if trump legitimately wins on election day he wins so be at the end yeah of america so alex gets into talking about covid and of course uh he now has proof bombshell proof oh balson arrow got infected so it's bombshell proof that the no bombshell proof that it is not an epidemic and that we're all cool now
Starting point is 00:44:06 or something wow i have absolute smoking gun on top of smoking gun on top of red flag on top of hand and cookie jar on top of just absolute ridiculousness the covet 19 is a giant fraud at every level every facet every angle designed for planetary takeover ai takeover a depopulation you name it and now on the cdc's own website they say that covet 19 is not a epidemic and that actually it is a nose diving death curve and that's why every headline you see says america's entered a black hole of covet america failed america sucks america open to early america unbelievable this is just a uh some bullshit that alex is taking from an article on tom pappert's blog national file great the national file article asserts that quote according to the
Starting point is 00:45:17 cdc reports from march to maize covet 19 deaths at a sudden spike and then immediately proceeded to drop and if the drop continues the viral disease will no longer be considered an epidemic according to international standards that's great well then i'm glad to know that may was a good month for us and i'm sure things will continue on and that uh even if you just take that is true then alex is still misreporting this story he's saying that the cdc says that this is currently not an epidemic whereas the story he's covering is talking about a possible threshold that might be reached in the future which is bad work the link that the national file provides is to a page on the cdc's website reflecting data for the week ending on july 4th on the very top of the page
Starting point is 00:45:58 in the key updates section they say quote the percentage of specimens testing positive for saras cope to the viruses uh virus that causes covet 19 decreased slightly from last week however this past week included a holiday which could impact both testing and reporting mortality attributed to covet 19 decreased compared to last week and is currently at the epidemic threshold but will likely increase as additional death certificates are processed they're just making stuff up by misrepresenting things that are on this cdc update page while not offering the proper context that's on that page which is called lying there are other things that are on this page too that should worry people i mean there is uh you know there's a slight total decrease of national
Starting point is 00:46:41 numbers for percentages of tests coming back positive but there's a couple of regions in the country that are really pushing those numbers up the south central region which covers arkansas louisiana new mexico oklahoma and texas were showing positive test rates of 16.8 percent also the southeastern region covering kentucky tennessee mississippi georgia north and south carolina and florida was reflecting a 14.1 positive rate these dudes are just cherry picking whatever sort of out of context line they can find to help make their arguments but the totality of the information on the very pages they link to as sources refute the things that they're saying so i don't know i don't know i i mean i don't know what to say other than these people need to be
Starting point is 00:47:28 stopped you can't you can't say this on air yeah you can't do it i i mean i get look constitutions already out the window we lost we lost that a while back interesting you and i have a little little little slight disagreement about that i suppose if the constitution was still in effect it would be applied to people and it doesn't seem to be doing so so this this shit is too dangerous so in this next clip alex gets to talking about the big supreme court decision of the last week that gave oklahoma but large portion of oklahoma to the tribal land oh no what are we gonna say about this doesn't say all that much about it actually but oh that's all right yeah but before he gets to it he's sort of like teasing what's coming up i'm really excited about something
Starting point is 00:48:14 that never pays off um we got bohemian grove news the supreme court has handed over half of oklahoma so they can defend a convicted child rapist i'm not kidding that's no joke i have no idea what this bohemian grove news is i just wrote bohemian grove news down because i was anticipating being distracted by whatever he's going to go on with and then get back to it but nope nope i heard that and i was like fuck yes yeah of course bohemian grove news in 20 body that's what i want bohemian grove news what's up with molecule i don't i don't think he ever gets to that oh that's important now i answer the stuff about oklahoma but his story is not true last week the supreme court ruled five to four that about half of oklahoma is technically
Starting point is 00:48:58 creek land and uh somewhat sovereign to the state of oklahoma sure it's really complicated but essentially what will end up happening is if there's a or if there's major crimes committed by a native person inside the area considered creek territory they cannot be tried by the state of oklahoma it has to be handled by the federal government smaller crimes like misdemeanors or civil matters those involving native persons will be handled by tribal courts according to npr this is already the case in large parts of arizona new mexico and montana sure this is not an attempt to protect someone who sexually assaulted a child but it's easy to create that misinformation out of the case that led to the supreme court ruling the case in question was megurt versus oklahoma
Starting point is 00:49:39 where jimsy megurt was a member of the seminal nation was convicted of sex crimes against a child on creek land the appealing of the case was never about getting him acquitted the argument was that the state of oklahoma had no jurisdiction to try the case and he needed to be tried in federal court alex loves sovereignty so you think you'd be in favor of it for others but what a shock he's trying to turn this story about a treaty between the united states government and the creek people being honored into a story about protecting pedophiles he's really getting to be a one-trick pony yeah what is he about to do be like and well that's why we should reconquer half of oklahoma in order to make sure that the oklahoma state can enforce he doesn't get to that
Starting point is 00:50:19 point but he's just trying to pretend that it's a thing where they're like they're trying to get this guy off the hook by getting him into tribal court that'll let him go yeah well it's in reality will be tried by a federal court and almost certainly convicted yeah it's it's really just more about honoring this treaty yeah so which is tough to get the american government to fucking do yeah weird alex probably feels really bad about supporting gorsuch now and i'm told him not to anyway now for on the lighter side of the the info wars offerings for today in the news when i talk about monkey see monkey do i'm going to hit this yesterday guys search into this monkeys now adopting wearing mask in india in africa in southeast asia monkeys have all now
Starting point is 00:51:09 been seen picking up masks out of trash piles and putting them on now we're a lot smarter than our fellow primate these different types of monkeys that are doing this but are you they think of humans is more advanced as successful they want just closely what are you doing food and stuff for them stop it and and and and they know that we're more advanced so they're now putting the mask on i think it's entirely possible that it's a coincidence that doesn't mean anything that a couple people might have seen monkeys putting on discarded masks kind of like when you see a crab holding a knife or pizza rat a rat with yeah exactly yeah no that rat wasn't like those people are so smart this pizza must mean something i was trying to get to the bottom of what alex is talking about
Starting point is 00:51:50 and it appears that it's just a video from india where a monkey finds a scarf on the street and puts it over its head before doing a gesture not unlike what you see people do when they throw a scarf over their shoulder sure unfortunately the monkey isn't very good at that move and it ends up with the scarf over its face and kind of looks like a mask it's a really cute video and people love it did you know did you know that there is a mainstream movie where a monkey wears a fez hat have you seen that you know called a laden it's incredible so they this kind of does illustrate a disturbing trend of monkeys so they're mimicking our behaviors yes they're we all wear masks and then to be like us monkeys are doing it too because they know we're more advanced the only
Starting point is 00:52:30 problem with this theory is that the video has been reposted for at least a year and it predates covid-19 well it went viral again after it was reposted by susanta nanda of the indian forest services but it's not a new video also i'm really interested in this theory that alex has about monkeys copying our behaviors because they think we're successful that's something i don't have anywhere near the amount of patience it would take to unpack so i'm going to leave the topic with this thought uh-huh for alex jones work is basically just him seeing some kind of piece of viral content and then making up a story about it yes correct that's what he calls research that's his job basically all he does also i think that monkeys would probably copy other behaviors if they
Starting point is 00:53:12 if they had a fundamental understanding of us started wearing shoes they yeah yeah i feel like they'd have a stock market like if they if they really liked our successfulness i'm going to give you a hint as to where i think alex gets this information i'm going to go with this and let me see if you can get the reference all right damn you you maniac it's possible god damn you damn you all the hell seems likely all right that sounds about right yep so alex uh this next clip he takes responsibility for a decision that trump made that uh i'm going to present without comment though i do think this could look real bad in hindsight trump as i told you first a month and a half ago was going to sideline fouchy it happened two weeks later they even used the term
Starting point is 00:53:58 sideline had that directed from the white house that they got the message i've advised the white house destroy him destroy gates annihilate them they have they've got the patents on the vaccines they pre-planned it all you're starting to see that come out trump's a real deal folks but he's got to hit him now he can't wait so alex has sort of given the uh given the impression that his content getting to trump has uh inspired him to sideline the sort of medical experts in the middle of a pandemic hope that doesn't that doesn't end up looking real bad in the present okay or even worse in the future so what you're saying is alex is claiming to directly influence the removal of medical experts in the middle of a pandemic yep ha i don't think i i think that would
Starting point is 00:54:44 be more of an admission of guilt really i do think it'll look pretty bad it won't look good um so now alex starts fantasizing about how trump needs to have fouchy and bill gates murdered trump's a real deal folks but he's got to hit him now he can't wait and he's the president these are traders working with china i mean hit him politically president as hard as you want the america people will back it or maybe fouchy just goes a long long trip won't bill gates somewhere maybe they just vacation together someplace we never see him again who knows they're like whitman price from the dod the society paid in full last season's winners let's continue man alex complains all the time about this idea of like the soviet's disappearing people and and uh well it's morally wrong to
Starting point is 00:55:32 disappear people i guess but he's kind of wanting his enemies to go on a long camping trip well that's because trump is the real deal and the real deal disappears people i guess i mean it's just silly yeah so this morning on the 10th uh that morning alex was driving around or something and he saw some joggers oh god we're gonna scream at joggers now no i don't know if he yells at them but he does he does write a weird story about them okay so this morning i was doing errand i was in a little strip center area it was full of parking so i parked a little down the street by residential area and i get back in my car and i see what looks like some joggers walkers about 100 yards away by the time i roll up the window and you know turn on the car they're about 50 yards away and
Starting point is 00:56:19 i'm on my phone i'm taking a call and i noticed that they're waiting and pointing at me but they've got a whole sidewalk and everything and so i get off the phone and i'm sitting there watching them and i go they look about like chinese they're wearing masks chinese man chinese woman and they start walking down pointing at me angry i didn't videotape it i didn't want to antagonize them oh sure you hate antagonize with the windows up and it wasn't enough that i got in at the windows up they were social distancing probably you know here working for a tech company probably chinese citizens because there their phones track them for every foot they are and if they go buy another person their social credit score goes down so to them it's like a big video game to follow the ai to
Starting point is 00:57:04 prepare themselves and the ai's already in place the public's just being told about it now so to watch the next level of conformity 100 yards away and then 50 yards away stopping and waiting for me on a quiet street look like mayberry so it's interesting how many assumptions he makes in that story that are completely unfounded like he decides that they must be chinese citizens here working for a tech company and they're used to being monitored by cell phone yeah and having their credit score go down and so that's why they're pointing at him i think it's entirely possible that they knew it was alex jones and they're like look at that fucking asshole or something like or even like let's take a benign version of it like they just see him and they know who he is and he's
Starting point is 00:57:50 a famous person yeah look it's alex jones there's a hundred explanations that have nothing to do with masks or social distancing at all no or if they are keenly aware of who he is it could be a look out yeah look out we are minorities and alex jones is in a truck this could not go well i i just kept thinking during that story like the next thing that alex should say to some other human being is like why do these wolves have so many pads on them like that's what you should say after that story it's like that is an insane person look like all we have to go on is alex's retelling of things sure let's look at the concrete things that happened in this story alex was in his truck uh he saw a couple of people right who pointed at him yes those are the only
Starting point is 00:58:36 things that are concrete that aren't just his interpretation of what happened alex a famous person yes is in a truck yes a large truck of course uh which would draw attention on its own certainly people noticed him he has a big old head thick man yeah yeah he's very easy to pick out of a crowd i don't recall the chinese government having anything to do with that but i could be wrong well i mean this is this is one of those things like if i were alex i would call it a rosetta stone the ways in which you can see like the the concrete facts of this story are thin yeah most of the meat is just things that he's making up right and imagining and because this story is a zero on its own it's still a boring story you're not even with all the shit he's
Starting point is 00:59:19 added into it i was bored you're not wrong you're not wrong it's a pretty bad story even even with all the embellishments yeah yeah all the tassels and bells on it it's still really really boring this is why a stand-up did not go well true um so he alex has learned that there's this guy named nim kid okay is uh the rats of nim kid no he's an emergency tech a texas emergency division chief and he did an interview that was discussing how there are instances where we might want to be suggesting people wear masks at home okay and alex has taken this to be like they're going to force you to wear a mask at home yeah and so he plays this clip but the reason i i kept this in um is that you can tell alex is very strategic about interrupting this clip the man you always
Starting point is 01:00:13 see standing behind him is texas chief nim kid you always see nim kid behind the governor wearing his mask and he says do not leave your house without a mask but also in your house wear a mask because you're such a bad person you're so evil you're so dangerous here it is today is we need to do that when we're in our homes also as you know i'm a lifelong san antonio and grew up there worked there for many years and i know how many multi-generational families that we have and while we believe the community is doing a great job of following the rules when they're outside of the home we really need to be thinking about doing the same thing when we're inside the home and all of us are are capable of catching this disease none of us are immune
Starting point is 01:01:05 from this and the fact that we need to get across this in order to protect ourselves we need to protect our families and our loved ones we really need to be thinking about the care that we're providing inside the home right now to make sure that we're not spreading this disease inside the home and then making it come outside the house so let me get this straight what you're effectively saying is that people should be wearing masks inside their own homes now right i'm saying if you can't socially distance and can't socially isolate or if you've been out in public and exposing yourself and you haven't decontaminated yourself good enough when you get home if you have someone that has underlying medical conditions that's enough turn this idiot off okay if you
Starting point is 01:01:42 want to know the road to hell what it's paved with it's paved with reasonability of texas emergency management system nim kid alex had to interrupt right then because he realized that it was making too much sense yep and if he allowed it to talk the guy to talk any longer it was going to be completely clear what he was talking about yeah here's the version that alex wants his audience to believe is what kid is saying all you texans need to wear masks when you leave the house and now also at home we're mandating you to do this and if you don't submit you'll be in trouble however the further that clip played it became more clear that you know what he was saying made sense kid was not saying that anything about mandating people to wear masks at home is just a suggestion that
Starting point is 01:02:24 people should consider and it's not something that everyone needs to consider it was a suggestion that was specific to people who are living in multi-generational homes and may have people in their house who are at a higher risk from the virus if you're in such a household and you're not able to protect yourself when you go out in public then it might be a good thing to consider to wear a mask inside to save your grandmother's life yeah this was a big slip up on alex's part that could have easily been avoided if he did any preparation for his show if he even gave a single shit about the things he covered he would have pre-screened that clip and known where you need to turn it off so it doesn't contradict your narrative about it you cut it off when the guy
Starting point is 01:02:59 asks so are you saying that we need to wear it before that and then you cut it off cut it up before that fair yeah i mean like uh that's embarrassing that fuck up it really but you know it's it's great the way that alex is able to get around that and try and if you'll pardon expression mask his fuck up is by faking anger yep and it's oh i'm so disgusted with turn this guy off get this terrible news out of my oh you don't turn this guy off saying things that are unfortunately about to make sense yeah and are starting to yeah so there's a coup against trump that's been the main thrust of this entire episode sure it's live when we come back i'll get into the coup plan against trump that's now active and live openly announced by democrats
Starting point is 01:03:42 but first we'll play the director of the un emergency response operation his counterpart that wrote this up he's to have emergency in texas he gets his orders down through the cdc from the un directly from dr michael j ryan that says we're coming to take your children your parents we're coming into your houses and this piece of trash is getting us ready for it he hasn't even gotten the memo yet and about a month silver has always been dangerous you suck bad bad time management there so um alex says he's going to play this clip um and there's there's some nonsense that he said in that clip already but i'll play alex's thing here before getting into any of that here's the head of the un global emergency response to disasters and medical crises
Starting point is 01:04:33 dr ryan and he is through this unwho down through the nihcdc the state of texas who this man takes his orders from the texas division of emergency management head chief nim kid who says don't leave your house without a mask and you need to wear one in your house and then already in australia already in spain they began coming to the houses taking the families away breaking them up here it is and at the moment in most parts of the world due to lockdown most of the transmission that's actually happening in many countries now is happening in the household at family level in some senses transmission has been taken off the streets and pushed back into family units and now we need to go and look in families to find those people who may be sick and remove them
Starting point is 01:05:29 and isolate them in a in a safe and dignified manner so first things first the un emergency management people are not in charge of the texas division of emergency management sure there's a lot of local jurisdictional focus in terms of the texas emergency planning structure and it gets a little messy but ultimately it all goes back to the governor i was able to find the 2020 texas emergency management structure document which discusses the texas emergency management council this is quote composed of state agencies and non-governmental organizations appointed by the governor the council was established to advise and assist the governor in all matters related to disaster mitigation preparedness response and recovery this has no formal connection to the body
Starting point is 01:06:10 that dr michael ryan is the executive director of which is the uh the world health organization health emergencies program that clip that alex played probably sounds kind of scary but alex is taking it entirely out of context this is from a media briefing on the virus from march 30th and the particular steps that dr ryan describes are not relevant to our situation at all in the full context of his comments ryan is discussing a monitoring methodology that could be put in place if cases went down to very low numbers if you only have a few cases identified a day a state or country could have the ability to trace their contract uh contacts and monitor them for symptoms and if someone gets sick provide them with a safe place to quarantine away from the
Starting point is 01:06:50 home so they don't get other people sick and keep spreading the disease if you listen to the full response to this question he even says that it isn't something you can really do effectively when you have thousands of cases a day and the us has been currently tracking over 50 000 new cases a day so it's pretty safe to say that most of the country is not in a position where anything dr ryan was saying back in march is relevant yeah dr ryan was talking about what a country could do once it is pushed transmission off the streets and into the homes the tragedy of alex lying about this stuff is that we're nowhere near that point nope so i don't know i mean you can get scared about this out of context clip of this world health organization guy um or you can recognize
Starting point is 01:07:30 that it has nothing to do with the the situation it seems like he's dealing with a serious like pot committed kind of fallacy there or it's just like hey i've been denying this for so long even though the evidence is now completely undeniable i have to double down otherwise i'm going to look like a moron yeah it's it's tough even though i am a moron i don't want to look like one that would make me feel bad that would that would feel bad it would feel bad yeah so alex still hasn't gotten to his big top story which is the coup against trump sure sure that's still supposed to be coming of course and so maybe we'll get to it i've got savannah hernandez and oh and shroyer who are on fire coming in here oh my god even got to my top story yet so
Starting point is 01:08:16 what i'm going to do is i'm going to do this right now i'm going to mention this i'm going to hit this coming out of the gates at six after they'll be in studio with me we'll talk about this at first and we'll move into the subjects there on but you understand i've got a stack of news articles and video clips where they're officially saying how they're going to have a coup against the president physically with the u.s military dan is holding a night as we speak last thing i need guys hammer holding the concept golden sacks article where golden sacks came out yesterday golden sacks says election will be contested i need that police there's a reuters article so
Starting point is 01:08:59 yeah man i tell you there's just so much of this i can't even keep track of it anymore so that's coming up uh briefly you want to fund this operation you want to get your products at the same time now's the time to do it i can't possibly imagine doing such a shitty job and then still insisting on paying the audience for money isn't he working happening alex hasn't gotten to his top story so he's going to tease it but he doesn't have the right piece of paper in front of him so the show just grinds to a halt and he decides this is a good time to an ad alex's entire thing with goldman sacks attacking trump would probably make more sense if trump hadn't made former goldman sacks executive steve minuchin the secretary of the
Starting point is 01:09:39 treasury his campaign hadn't been run by former goldman sacks employee steve bannon and his original chief financial advisor wasn't former goldman sacks coo gary cone well this goes on and on unrelated information there's no conflict between trump and goldman sacks despite what alex might want to pretend this article that alex can't remember anything about has to do with goldman sacks advising investors to hedge their positions through the end of the year since they predict market volatility around the election they're not predicting a contested election the same way alex is trying to use the term where both candidates say that they're the rightful winner goldman sacks is saying that there are certain variables in play which could delay the announcement of a winner
Starting point is 01:10:16 which could lead to some market fluctuation they cite increases in mail-in ballots the time it takes to count those and the virus possibly affecting voting schedules as reasons to be a cautious investor there were a bunch of ups and downs in the five weeks between the 2000 election and the supreme court naming bush the winner and this is more or less just a financial business advising investors that some similar shit is probable this year yeah this is uh just short of proof of a coup but i guess if that's how alex wants to play things that's that's what he's going to play i mean if there was a coup goldman sacks is on trump's team like what are we talking here it's come on man seems like it yeah so um alex brings in oh and in savannah hernandez they are on
Starting point is 01:10:59 fire though correct they've been put out since that uh they're i they were not burning this is a computer chip in a homeless person situation all over again if you say oh and Troy is on fire i want burning shawyer flames i want flames slum bay shawyer absolutely um no instead you just get him uh sort of kind of talking about how maybe we should murder people okay what i think they may do though they may have television media come on the night of the election and say oh biden won biden won even though trump did win and they'll just have the whole censorship grid rolled out just like they did with covet they'll stop just like they stop any doctors from talking about hydroxychloroquine or stop any doctors from talking about the fake test exactly this is all
Starting point is 01:11:41 been a dress rehearsal for stealing the election and having big tech ai totally suppress it all and then so they'll come in and they'll say oh biden won biden won and then trump will say no uh biden didn't want it then it'll be the president versus the media just that'll be the playing field you know our question now alex is we basically have three options one option is attack and i mean literally like time to mount up and and we'll go make our own autonomous zone and and we'll drag these democrats out by the the scruff of their neck yeah the autonomous zones will be uh inside the capital yeah and and so that's one we can attack we can do that two is patience we can sit back and wait and see okay let's see what happens in the election night let's hope for a good
Starting point is 01:12:18 thing maybe a big red wave bunch of patriots get into congress and we can actually do this peacefully and politically and then the third option is retreat go to the hills mount up get emergency food get by body water get by you know a mountain get a bunch of guns and ammo and i'm doing both so so but just do three philosophical thing we have to wonder now is for example if we want to attack or if we want to wait no at what point do we measure at what point we have to choose before we've had the choices taken what uh i mean obviously the answer was when bolson aro tested positive for kovat 19 you giant bunch of cowards this is pathetic what really is i have no fear of these people if they were going to pull off any of this bullshit they've already hit all the benchmarks
Starting point is 01:13:03 well i know that is a that is a hallmark of alex's broadcast style but but simultaneously people do get hurt periodically so it's not like you know it's not harmless no no totally i get that and you know the the way that the world is gotten more and more insane over the past six months you know it does tend itself i i feel like there's more danger than normal but generally i agree with you no i agree that this is more bark than bite yeah totally but at the same time i am not comfortable with the extent to which these conversations are just super normalized right i know but again why are these people are so fucking stupid we can't outsmart them just because they're they're murderers well it's not about um it's not about a fear of like owen doing anything
Starting point is 01:13:54 no of course it's the unknown unknown person who listens to alex there's stochastic terrorists yeah you're not worried about yeah now one thing that i think is really interesting is it appears that owen is a little bit over trump's bullshit interesting seems to me like he's coming from a position of like yeah look he's not going to do it he's not going to do the things we want and alex doesn't seem thrilled with that if trump wants to let them steal the election from trump okay fine that's trump's decision we're not gonna let them take our country so they've already told us the contact tracers are coming to our houses and they go oh by the way they're gonna be political they're the youth brigades obama wanted this is their whole rollout hey we want to be on the
Starting point is 01:14:38 field we want to be on the front lines we are the tip of the spear trump has let them censor us trump has let them lie about us sue us into submission we're still fighting so hey you know at the end of the day are we fighting for trump or are we fighting for america i'm fighting for america let's be clear but but trump is there for us he's doing a great job but but owen all the points you made are great so wow yeah oh boy that's a little bit weird the two of them are not on the same page really shroyer is starting to lean more towards the fuentes wing of the let's murder everybody party it's it seems like he is in the like trump's not going to do it we and that could you know we'll see where that goes yeah see how long he can rationalize working for the company
Starting point is 01:15:20 that he works for yeah no kidding so savannah hernandez comes in and she's got some dumb shit to say about how like oh all these ideas the trump's not going to leave office it's just because of hillary they've been laying the groundwork for this since trump got into office hillary clinton has already come out so many times and said that well what if trump loses in 2020 he's not going to leave the white house so she's been already laying the groundwork playing the seeds for this it's all good and well to talk about people like hillary raising concerns about trump now leaving office but you're kind of being dishonest if you don't point out that trump has a long history of quote unquote joking about how he's not going to leave office yeah there was
Starting point is 01:15:59 that speech he gave in december 2019 the israeli american council national summit where he said quote when they all screamed four more years four more years i always say make it 12 years and you'll drive him crazy or there was his tweet from june 2019 quote uh a poll should be done on which is the more dishonest and deceitful newspaper the failing new york times or the amazon lobbyist washington post they are both a disgrace to our country the enemy of the people but i can't seem to figure out which is worse the good news is at the end of six years after america has been made great again and i leave the beautiful white house parentheses do you think the people would demand that i stay longer there you go keep america great hey both of these horrible papers will
Starting point is 01:16:41 quickly go out of business and be forever gone or there was the closed door speech that he gave in front of republican donors at marilago in march 2018 where he discussed how president of china just gave himself lifetime post quote he's now president for life president for life no he's great and look he was able to do that i think it's great maybe we'll have to give that a shot someday a slayed article has a listing of at least 27 times trump has made comments about how he should get more than two terms since he's taken office yeah this is not a normal thing for a human to do no there's a couple of reasons why someone would act like this and i'll get to that in a second but first i think it's important to point out that there is a massive difference
Starting point is 01:17:21 between the behavior of someone like hillary and someone like trump in this circumstance hillary is not a person who's able to make any real decision in this situation she's a commentator who's expressing the concern that a person will make a very bad decision conversely trump is the decision maker legitimately he's the only person who can decide whether or not to throw this country into an even deeper existential crisis when the election results come in he alone is either able to accept or reject a win or a loss and the ramifications of that choice are almost impossible to overstate when hillary discusses these concerns she's well within a right to do so and you're welcome to have your opinion about her opinion when trump quote-unquote jokes about insisting on
Starting point is 01:18:04 staying in office after two terms he's joking about something that is within his power whether you believe he'd be able to pull it off or not he has the ability to cause the damage that a president not accepting the results of an election would cause and what he's doing is not joking there are only two possible explanations i can really come up with for why trump would so consistently joke about this the first is to piss off his political opposition in that case we have a president who's such a dick that he'll create the impression that he wants to overturn basic institutional norms in order to troll people that alone is disqualifying for a person to be a leader let alone someone worth taking seriously the other possibility is that trump thinks he should be president for life
Starting point is 01:18:44 i don't think you can really but what about hillary this i don't think that's i don't know but what about hillary good good you should get a job there we go i think i could crush it yeah so in this next clip oan soft pitches uh the idea of storming the capital uh already sort of talked about it in that last clip of his uh but he wants autonomous zone is in the capital he wants a 50 thousand armed people uh to storm the capital oh that'd be nice i'll be honest i think about this i think about you know is it time for alex jones and info wars to declare war on the deep state and literally say okay if we don't have arrests by october 31st 2020 we call for 50 thousand armed men to meet us at the texas capital and we'll set up our own autonomous zone and we'll go
Starting point is 01:19:27 wherever we need to go and drag out whoever we need to drag out by the scuff of their neck and so we start to get some arrests or we start to get some action i don't want to do that i know you don't want to do that that's why we take political action that's why we come on air every day but it's reaching a point where yeah there's an active coup going on i i think you come on air every day to fantasize about doing stuff like that that's exactly what you said hey listen i don't want to do the thing that for the past six months i've been screaming how great it would be to do uh but you know if they don't do it they're gonna have to make me do the thing that again i explicitly do not absolutely want to do and have been saying that i should now i said halloween
Starting point is 01:20:06 because it's the only night we have a chance it is because we can all be dressed up as we know sawin is also when the planets align giving us the power to break into homes easily uh huh it's a yeah i like it yeah i think there's a good plan i don't think it's a good plan i think so i think it's pretty scary um also i love the idea of him like is it time for us to declare war on the deep state how many fucking times has alex yelled about that alex said that the deep state was poisoning trumps fucking coax that was like three years ago yeah you guys have been you guys declared war on the deep state oh god so we know that later this evening uh on the 10th roger gets his sentence clements clements clements whatever um alex reberdo clements is what they say but on the
Starting point is 01:20:56 show that day alex lets something slip i know whether trumps giving him a partner or not i've been asked not to say i'll just tell you the drudge report headlines very accurate right now you put it back on screen developing trump departing stone well yeah yeah he sees i love how i always have to wait don't get the break stuff even though i know it a week ago um i mean as of a week ago trump is gonna pardon the president but i mean trump is gonna pardon stone first of all alex was wrong roger didn't get a pardon he got clemency which is different clemency just reduces the penalty for a conviction but the crime is still on a person's record so roger is still a convicted felon if trump legitimately thought that roger was wrongly convicted he would have pardoned him but he didn't
Starting point is 01:21:39 because that would probably be too messy and i don't even think william bar would have had his back on that i think i totally was maybe i don't know clemency is a perfect middle road for corrupt shitheads because then roger doesn't have to go to prison and you don't have to open up the box of what could happen if you partner it's already happened box was opened a long time ago according to you other people might have different lines that's fair i i'm just i'm just arguing that miller's entire prosecution was uh you know when that was just swept under the rug by bar i think that was when that was more the i wasn't good pardoning stone wouldn't have been the one that did it accepting that stealing a complete election is fine is probably where the box was
Starting point is 01:22:19 open for me well i think i think the difference between those things this is such a more of a discreet act you know like yeah that the stuff with moller and all that is very there's a lot ins and outs there's a lot of complexity to it whereas this is quite simple yeah that's fair i think you could make a really easier to digest yeah argument about pardoning roger fair for trying to intimidate a witness to not testify in a case that had to do with him trying to circumvent the law in order to help trump's campaign yeah i think it's a little easier should be like this is the clearest case of corruption as a part but i don't disagree with you on a human level right right i think that that's probably my favorite part of this is
Starting point is 01:23:08 how much of a chump miller is like this entire like him pardoning stone was the easiest conviction he had and that was ripped away from they got it moeller is the worst he has failed in every possible way i it's hilarious i don't i'm not i'm not standing up for him or anything like that but i am going to say that he did everything he could in term oh did he well in terms of roger they got the conviction maybe they got the conviction oh yeah you're right you're right in terms of him no no but that's why it's even funnier because trump made him look like a chump again it's pathetic he should really be embarrassed so the larger thing that i think here is that if alex knew that trump was going to pardon roger for the last week what's his excuse for engaging
Starting point is 01:23:50 in the absurd and embarrassing radio play about how roger is going to die in jail because he's such a hero you know all that shit if the whole point was to plead his case to trump for the pardon you already knew was coming that kind of makes the whole thing seem like an act almost like if you were just building up to the payoff that you knew was coming what better way to hide in the drama of a pardon than to pretend it might not come just to juice the ratings absolutely if alex knew for a week then that there there's no other explanation for his behavior that like trying to will they want they yeah trying to trying to increase drama intention in order to raise ratings well i mean that's indefensible how many people are going to tune
Starting point is 01:24:27 into all of those different shows that stone was just on that he just happened to start going on really frequently in the past couple of weeks and everybody's going to tune in is tonight the night that stone announces he's been pardoned well you know i think you know for him you know good so um in this next clip on he starts talking some more about his enemies sure imagine well alex believes that all these people who are out protesting their enemies of course they were hired oh and oh and has a slightly different stance on it that i actually think is worse it's weird because you can say there's enemies of freedom but that's not to me the correct psychological approach because i don't sit here and see them as my enemy i don't see them as an enemy of freedom
Starting point is 01:25:16 i think if you ask them they want to be free too just like anybody else but what they've become here's the hammer willingly is obstacles of freedom they've become obstacles of freedom and as soon as americans they're not even peace are willing to fight for their freedom like you said alex it's a trap you're now an obstacle you're going to get run over use the cars running these people over in the streets as a physical example now and alex we were talking off air the problem is they've got the whole left-wing activists in control of all the justice so you know 10 000 people can be surrounding your vehicle threatening to kill you smashing the windows and everything and if you plow if you plow through it you're the bad guy that's right they got the corporations
Starting point is 01:25:57 they got the judges they got the media now all over the place black lives matter can beat people up kill them but if somebody fights back now they're being charged everywhere so that's a very interesting way for oan to dehumanize his opposition and take away any reason to care about what they say what their positions are even pretend that they have any agency they aren't enemies they have political goals or points they're merely obstacles the two sides that exist in this narrative are alex and his team who are supposedly the good guys then they're the globalists who are the bad guys everyone who doesn't agree with alex like let's say someone who might demonstrate for reproductive rights or protest against ice they aren't people with real positions or thought out convictions
Starting point is 01:26:36 they're just zombies who've been brainwashed by the globalists and they're not the enemy they're just obstacles to be run over all they are is in the way yep the info warrior are the only people who actually are on a path that involves making choices or having agency which naturally leads to some pretty sickening conclusions this is the same mentality that alex expresses all the time when he talks about how killing a globalist is like killing a bug you don't want to do it but sometimes you have to that kind of rhetoric and the sort of thing that oan is expressing here are means of giving tacit permission to enact violence on your political enemies by reducing them to being human obstacles yep recently usa today reported that since may
Starting point is 01:27:18 27th there have been at least 66 instances of protesters being hit by cars undoubtedly not all of these were cold blooded attempted murders but at least some of them definitely were seven of the incidents were police hitting protesters in just over a month you know that's a short period of time yep at least two of these people have been killed and countless others have been heard and traumatized by these events this is not something that deserves to be mocked even if you disagree with the politics of the people who are being targeted by these attacks i wholeheartedly despise trump and his dumb rallies but if there had been 66 instances of trump supporters being hit by cars at his rallies since may 27th i would absolutely show some reverence to the subject
Starting point is 01:27:58 and entertain the possibility that something had gone wrong with the opposition to trump the messaging of that movement if people thought that running civilians over with cars was an appropriate way to voice your political opposition and alex and owen can sit here and play the game where they pretend that these people are all just looters and rioters who are threatening the people in the cars who hit them in self-defense but even they know that's bullshit on some level these dudes know that what they're doing is trying to help normalize the enacting of lethal violence against their political rivals and that's why alex talks about helicopter rides that's why he talks about how his listeners can be instruments of god's vengeance there's a concerted effort of dehumanization
Starting point is 01:28:35 of political enemies and of normalizing the conversation of enacting violence on this show to a level that i'm consistently uncomfortable with yeah that was that's if shroyer and i are drunk in a bar and he says that that's when you take a swing at somebody you know it's just like look i i i know i'm done no no those are fighting words done i'm out i'm out however i'll leave i'll you'll leave i just this is this is fucked this is too fucked that's just too fucked yeah it's a mess yikes so uh oan starts talking about how like these people in the new york police department the detectives what they need to do is they need to release all the dirt that they actually have on hillary and like all this evidence that she chopped up babies and stuff cool go for it now
Starting point is 01:29:20 that part i mean whatever i don't i don't care about what oan's saying but i think this is the first instance like where i think alex is drunk i think you might have gotten drunk you think you might have kicked it up a notch yeah i really think that the new york cops and the new york fbi that are good people but are actually going through the process of this it's time to just release it it's time to release the that's right no more no more wait around the gloves are off they broke all the rules just burn them burn burn burn we made this step we're totally attacking burn attack catch it yeah whether america can handle it or not there's only one way to find out yeah let's just let's just get it going here there is a real change in his dynamic yeah and part of
Starting point is 01:29:58 it could just be trying to do a bro down with oan yeah it's tough to tell but i also heard some clinking noises that sounded like and who knows could be a coffee mug sure sure he strikes me as possibly drunk yeah at this point yeah and that's only uh furthered by or my suspicions are only furthered by the fact that he does a jeff foxworthy oh no are they a democrat you've heard like might be a redneck if you do this might be a might be a pedophile you're a democrat sorry go ahead so anyway you guys are great yeah they have you heard of this have you heard of this you might be a redneck have you heard of this overdone joke structure that has permeated all of not just america but the world i really think alex listens to our show too because we did uh did we do that
Starting point is 01:30:44 recently you might be uh you might be in a teary oh yeah that's right a couple episodes back makes me think he's probably listening oh that's son of a bitch maybe maybe not so um alex gets talking about uh the seven two seven seven memorandum seven two seven seven yes yes the thing that was about disarming uh the soviet union in the united states during the cold war to avoid a nuclear war that alex believes is um about actually taking his gun away which is not and there was seven plus two is nine nine uh plus 14 that's six six six yep yep well i stand corrected yep so alex alex talks about this a little bit and we know that he believes like he knows that it's on the cia's website and we've talked about that in the past but when alex i can't even explain this
Starting point is 01:31:33 ahead of time but this was one of the more disturbing clips i've heard not because he's saying anything fucked up but just because the the amount of stupid he has to be if he actually thinks this is out of control i've been studying the united nations who set it up and how it operates for a long time and a lot of you have as well and they tried to launch plans back in the 60s to disarm the military and the police and then only have a un force around the world and a lot of people ended up uh you know in the government quietly having to be gotten rid of to stop that at that point and you go to the cia website and look up state apartment random seven two seven seven we type in state apartment random seven two seven seven uh you'll notice it'll it'll pop up on
Starting point is 01:32:18 wikipedia and places like that you can actually go to the cia has got a flyer from uh 1963 about fbi agents and cia operatives that were creating a newsletter called on target about a list of people in the government that they were planning to kill if they continue to go along with the plan so the government knows all about this ongoing battle so we've talked a ton about memorandum seven two seven seven in the past so there's no need to rehash that we've also talked about this page on cia.gov that alex has found about the memo and how it's not a cia product it's the copy of a newsletter called on target which was produced by the minutemen this is intensely disturbing to hear alex say that the operatives for the cia and fbi were creating on target because
Starting point is 01:33:08 that's not true it was the publication of a violent aggressively anti-communist militia group the minutemen were an organization out of my home state of missouri founded by a real dickhead named robert de pu he uh he also was the person who wrote the on target newsletter of course after gaining financial stability by inventing a dog vitamin de pu lost his shit in the early days of the red scare cold war paranoia he set up shop in norborn missouri and started putting out his newsletters hoping to find like-minded patriots he gained a small following who he trained in paramilitary tactics he constantly exaggerated the size of his movement which was then repeated by people in the media which lent his group an outsized sense of relevance that it probably
Starting point is 01:33:49 deserved sure when you're alone anti-communist wacko it's all good and well for you to accuse everyone of being a communist and then say they deserve to be killed or whatever when you start to create an image of holding sway over a large following and you're also building weapons caches and doing military training and you're gonna attract law enforcement attention with that kind of a sooner or later you would hope yeah de pu was not a mastermind and thus the fbi was able to infiltrate his group and found that he had a bunch of illegal weapons hidden various spots for a war that was coming against the communists hi mr de pu i am john t minute men i was wondering where do you keep your oh right over there oh oh damn it he was convicted in 1967 of national firearms act
Starting point is 01:34:31 violations but fled before being sent to jail after two years he was captured and sent to prison for four years according to the columbia daily tribune quote according to multiple reports agents found him holding two former minute men a man and a woman in confinement crates because he believed they were traitors in 1991 he was arrested on child pornography charges that stemmed from an alleged modeling shoot he had with a teenage girl but he was not convicted but just to let you know he would have been 68 at that point and not a photographer another thing about robert de pu is that he was big on naming names or as some might put it making kill lists this was part of the reason that that issue of on target is part of the documents included in the cia reading room because
Starting point is 01:35:15 they had it on file as a part of monitoring his activities because he was making hit lists of politicians and private individuals that he had decided were communists and he was publishing their names and addresses the subtitle of this newsletter is quote words won't win action will hmm the thing that's particularly disturbing to me is that I think from the way alex is talking it sounds like he legitimately thinks that this document was made by good guys in the government right who are trying to warn the patriots about globalists in their rank that's really fucked up because that's not what this is at all and if alex knew anything about the subject he talks about it's every reason to know that yeah wow alex thinks that this basically doxing kill list that
Starting point is 01:36:00 was put out by an anti-communist militia leader in 1963 is the good guys in the government telling all these people about who the globalists are right right well i mean order 66 was the good guys in the government getting rid of all those globalist fucking jedi i see i i my mind had a hard time processing that clip alex saying that that is all like because here's what i think what i think that alex doesn't understand why that document would be on the cia's reading room if it wasn't created by it again it has to be created by the cia that's really i think that's a good point i think that's why alex thinks it was cia instead of it being part of a dossier that they put together because they were observing him because he was a dangerous uh dude yeah see that
Starting point is 01:36:49 didn't occur to me because it's too stupid to believe that that's what i was saying before the clip yeah the stupidness that this implies that's insane yeah that's that's beyond now the other possibility that i run into when i think about this is that alex knows that it was a crazy militia leader right guy and he's like trying to try to up the image or trying to sugarcoat it sure a little bit yeah because he's a secret good guy in the government he's not though no no no no he was although you know what his problem was if he to come around like 40 50 years later he's got duck dynasty on a and e you know he invented the dog pill or whatever it is he left he left the veterinary arts yeah because give him a reality tv show so this gets messy the 10th yeah alex has uh
Starting point is 01:37:40 dan liman from europe wars uh huh he's visiting studio and that has allowed me to get another great clip dan is there a war on western civilization no there's not um but he has dan liman in and they're supposedly supposed to be talking about how there's going to be a lot of migrants in europe but you know they're anti migrant anti immigrant you know gotta gotta do it hate them non whites this gets very much into the adl oh it's weird there is a preoccupation with the adl surrounding that it's supposed to just be about um how there's going to be a lot of migrants coming into countries sure boilerplate stuff right it's what you expect from these sort of xenophobic dicks yeah it's almost entirely complaining about the adl in ways that are very uncomfortable
Starting point is 01:38:36 and alex insists oh god i don't even know how to set this up so i don't think the adl represents jews there are a lot of good jews i've had jews you help me out with things uh band out video was designed by a guy from israel great guy didn't like us being censored helped us build it and then it was like here it's done have it uh you know i mean so many examples i'm not gonna have the adl trick me into hating jews because they make money off that whoa oh boy oh boy so that's interesting alex refuses to okay i don't want i don't even care to unpack this because they start talking and i immediately start to understand why this is happening in the middle of their conversation about migrants because nazis one world war two uh let's continue here
Starting point is 01:39:23 let me give people a little preview of what's coming up macron enabler of the cartelurgy plan 200 million africans will live in europe after 30 years of migration this is what the connective tissue yeah the belief of the anti-semitic conspiracy theory about the cartelurgy plan is about rich cabal of jews that want to replace white men and white people with uh non-white people from foreign countries that is the immigration angle that's being discussed here and that's why there is so much anger at the adl that's being mixed in here right because their view of immigration is an anti-semitic conspiracy theory of that all traces back to basically this cartelurgy plan stuff but they got a you know they got to update it but they still don't want to lose the you know
Starting point is 01:40:17 the plan was still the cartelurgy plan is still a good propaganda tool we just can't all hate jews all the time now we got to update it it's so the guy who sets up my website cooled you that was a bad performance so that's the sort of stuff that's going on on the day that roger gets a clemency great day so really got it out there so we come back on on saturday now i think alex was drunk that night yes i think he kept drinking probably kept it going yeah i would assume a little fun time i would assume so maybe that's why he wasn't able to get a get something out on friday night could be so we get to saturday and alex puts out this emergency broadcast welcome thank you so much for joining us on this saturday july 11th emergency global afternoon transmission we're
Starting point is 01:41:04 sitting this out on all the radio and tv affiliates and the feeds at bandod video i fucking love the idea that he's like oh we cut in on the we cut in on our regularly scheduled not broadcasting to all the radio stations around the country that air my show i can just hit a button and we override them like the national weather alert system yeah alex has that uh that button yeah right you um has that power so i mean hey here we are and i got to say saturday roger just got clemency yes what do you expect i you got to dance you got to dance you got to dance and you got to tell me that this is complete vindication and the only reason that it didn't get a full pardon is so he can challenge the conviction in court right roger has said that in other venues yes i'm talking more
Starting point is 01:41:54 concretely okay from a show standpoint what do you expect to be on this episode roger stone that's interesting now here's what who alex's first guest is coming up in this hour plus long transmission we're scheduled to have man cow muller who's spent the last longtime friend of mine syndicate to talk to us last week with roger to give him support a lot of exclusive videos interviews with roger we're going to premiere man cows already sent those to me but we're going to get him on the on the sky for the zoom here in a few minutes so we got man cow we don't even get a real roger stone i don't know i all we know right now is that we got man cow man cow is friends with roger he went and spent some time with him while he was under house arrest
Starting point is 01:42:37 course of course and apparently he made some recordings of roger oh great great so that's our first guest okay but i'm like hey you can have man cow and roger both well you can't well alex does have another guest okay then roger's longtime personal lawyer tyler nixon uh who's not been the lawyer on the case we was able to speak about it because he's been both on the inside on the outside he's scheduled to be joining us via skype that's coming up roger is not on we have alex got local news level accent we've we've got the neighbor of the best friend of roger stone over here to give us some information yeah that to me wow i looked at that i was like what the fuck the bare minimum is roger gives you a call just an appearance yeah that that didn't get it he didn't
Starting point is 01:43:27 get an appearance oh man that's the end but there's bigger plans sure saturday broadcast and then after he leaves us i've never had my phones or my email blown off the wall like this i've had neighbors coming over to my house this morning saying wayfarer wayfarer wayfarer wayfarer i got home last night after working till like six o'clock and just there were all these text messages and i saw comments on m4's wayfarer wayfarer is it true that wayfarer this online shopping system was putting out ads for selling children's in armoire's well welcome to roger listen to find out all right now let me ask you a real quick question uh-huh why is this emergency broadcast happening roger god clemency all right so so far you have told me there is no
Starting point is 01:44:15 roger nope and alex is talking about wayfarer yep i'm not surprised i want to be more surprised i'm disappointed of course i'm very disappointed i was tickled this is exactly what should be happening to be honest i was tickled i was like yeah you know what it would have been ghost to just have roger it's just so many i just love i can't begin to stress how much i love it whenever walks on twitter or something or like oh i can't wait to see what alex says to this because in my head all i see all i hear is just like you're looking forward to being disappointed i guess i have no idea what you think is going to happen this to me is exactly why you can't do an emergency episode you got to wait and see is alex going to do an emergency show that mysteriously doesn't
Starting point is 01:45:00 include an appearance from his best friend roger of course weird uh yeah he has to pick up scraps wow but i was thinking you know roger's not ready to come on the show till tomorrow on the sunday broadcast he's promised me one of the first interviews i know he was up late last night drinking with man cow muller another one of my longtime friends and i thought wait a minute man cow is still in florida if he's up i'll call him and get him on the show so he and his wife are literally checking out with their children out of the hotel room right now they've got no late checkouts we've got a quick pop in from him scraps huh so his argument is basically stone is too hung over to go on the show i mean that's the most generous version of this right yeah that
Starting point is 01:45:42 or stone is still drinking i mean at some point later alex does say that roger wasn't answering his calls so it might just be he's too busy with people who matter yeah yeah so man cow comes in and normally man cow cow i am not a fan of man cow my old friend yes yes it should be i famously was a guest on man cow's show many years back back when i was doing stand up it was an accident i don't know why i was there it was one of the more miserable times i've ever had in my life drufki did it on purpose i think he's a horrible man he's a piece of shit tough to work with i'll say get a radio setting i generally don't care much for his appearances but this one is kind of funny a little bit because man cow knows the social dynamic yes he just left hanging out with roger
Starting point is 01:46:33 yes and alex is doing a special broadcast about roger that roger won't show up on right the status imbalance is gigantic astronomical man cow is the king yeah and alex is it's nothing in the pathetic world that they all live in and if you're a man cow you got to take that opportunity of course you got to feel good waggle a little bit yeah so he fucks with alex a little bit of course i want to tell you first of all alex and you're not going to like this everybody i talked to you're next you're next man they think this government does not like you talking i'm not talking about trump i'm talking about the deep state boy do they hate alex jones and i'm i'm i'll tell you i'll be there
Starting point is 01:47:20 with you uh the patriots got to stand up does this bother you what i'm saying alex or you already know it oh i know it my friend i know it what are you hearing i don't want to make this about me but what are you hearing no you're i just i it's just anyone that's a patriot anyone that believes in god anyone that believes in the constitution you know silly things like this uh they're going to get you oh they haven't heard anything you're just talking shit that is that's pretty solid fucking with alex you know he's going to believe you when you say that shit so you might as well draw it out yeah the dead silence from alex too is like do you know something i don't know and man cow clearly knowing he's full of shit about this fantastic it's one of the rare instances
Starting point is 01:47:59 to where that silence wasn't alex eating i don't uh no no no alex is hanging on every word oh you idiot so man cow cannot stop taking like every opportunity to be like all about like i'm in the middle of this i was just hanging out with roger what a dick i talked to someone last night alex again everybody was calling in there and we're talking political talking heads and famous people no i know i should have thought to call you and not you alex you read his house for dinner i just i just want to head and hung out with the kids but yeah i was i was monopolizing his time but oh my god you know when somebody's a consummate dick 99 of the time you absolutely hate it oh totally but when they use those powers yeah on another consummate dick it's fantastic yeah it's
Starting point is 01:48:43 fantastic it's behavior that can become humorous when you don't care about the recipient exactly yeah so um man cows got some sources within the old government right so sure man cow sources fine say that trump is beginning to crack under pressure sure right great alex cannot allow that can't hang no but man cow also is very high status so it's finally getting to him that my god there they just don't stop there they're going after his little kids they're going after it just god stop and it's finally getting to him according to three really good sources and uh one uh major major source said um he's losing it man cow that's what i started this special transmission with today is that there's a stack of news articles washington post
Starting point is 01:49:33 council and foreign relations all i'm saying we're preparing the military to remove him under the 25th amendment and so they're putting those talking points out that trump is cracking and i think a lot of that is hype i'm not saying that people around you are wrong but regardless this is what as trump says that they get through me they're going to get you they're not after me they're after you and so we've got to support the president i think i'm going to get on a plane and go to dc and and or to florida and bullhorn the president's compound again to let him know that we support him you're right he's all about shiny object he is a good american page we got to let him know we back him right now i was at mara lago yesterday
Starting point is 01:50:19 cannot resist what up again just like yeah i think i'm gonna i think i'm gonna get on a plane and blow him i was at mara lago yesterday that's good that's good stuff oh man cow what a prick unbelievable such an asshole thing to do yeah so in this next clip man cows joking around apparently roger stone may have said that man cow is q or something sure i'm not entirely shon i'm not sure what he's referencing they have a great time but this is really fun because alex has no idea what man cow is talking about this is very confusing did you see that roger stone revealed who q was uh yes tell folks he said it was me so the next time i come i'm not q but the next time i come on you and i have some
Starting point is 01:51:12 curious stuff to talk about i love you brother well i mean being in the middle of roger stone the last week you are q i mean we know who started the whole q thing that was very weird you know the weird part right is too good at comedy the the weird part is um when man cow says roger said who q is do you know this and alex says yes when it's clearly uh something he has no idea what the fuck uh man cow is talking about anyway uh i think that man cow might be a little bit of a q guy seems like you know about this secret messages yes look it up folks did you hear about wayfarer and all the kids do you know about all the pedophiles that this president is busting up well they keep trying to tie him to eppstein he's the president that ended eppstein a lot more
Starting point is 01:52:01 common folks stay strong alex so i think that uh the secret codes and the wayfarer pushing i think i think he might be a q guy uh hard to say exactly but i think so wow he might be anyway uh in this next clip man cow it says something that's directly in opposition to what alex believes right we know that alex has had private personal conversations with joe rogan about how once he gets free and gets on spotify he'll be away from youtube and he'll be able to attack the left absolutely that's when he'll get to it now granted joe rogan has come out and said that that's a complete nonsense and alex is making all that up sure now eric man cow muller has a little bit of a different take on this and believes that joe rogan sold out you realize you and i've
Starting point is 01:52:43 talked about this do you realize i mean we know somebody who just got a big podcast deal by selling out you and i won't sell out and it's cost us millions and folks don't understand um that alex tells that man cow yeah man if we wanted to be asked kisses if we wanted to be owned god could we be rich huh but i don't care we're gonna go down fight and maybe we may we may just save this great country well my friend that's what it's all about and i'm you were smart to take your vacation down there you already had it planned um so yeah you were smart to be able to hang out with roger i guess when he's under house arrest yeah so yeah joe rogan is apparently a sell out according to man cow um and he said that he and alex had talked about this not a sell out man cow sure
Starting point is 01:53:32 i mean i will say that the time that i was a guest on his show i felt like he was really straight up he was very straight up yeah very authentic he was focused on the issues yes very much um so man cows interview ends and tyler nixon's interview is so pointless that i don't even i didn't even cut clips of it why is tyler nixon on this broad because he's someone in the proximity of roger stone and alex couldn't get roger no but you don't even do it if you can't get roger i would suggest that that is what you should have done you don't do it well i think that you know you kind of got to make lemons lemonade um he was like yeah i could talk about wayfair it seems to be a hot topic maybe we could drive some traffic sure sure i know but i mean it just makes you look
Starting point is 01:54:14 really weak and sad well you can still get eyes on this thing because you do have an association with roger so there's an expectation that you would have something going on right right you got man cow he's kind of a star um you get to talk about wayfair maybe you could do some ads make a little money yeah i guess it's that or stay at home on a saturday not long-term thinking well anyway alex is really mad because it turns out that some of the people who supply the things that go into his dumb pills yeah um maybe aren't gonna be able to supply him anymore we have quite a few products we can't even get anymore people like where's my favorite product where's this one they were good sellers we can't get them it's shutting down my god
Starting point is 01:54:58 excuse me i'm getting pissed now you know you already know what's going on with the covet stuff and i promise the family i'd get back by you know four or five today so uh let's just i gotta do this let's do the covet then i'll come back into the wayfair which i know i'm right about it and people are gonna get pissed at me and i just i don't care i'm to tell you the truth so we know that he's gonna tell the truth about this uh the wayfair sure sure which is that it was uh you know well so the conspiracy that's going around on q anon and on the internet is that there are some suspiciously high priced cabinets that have the names of people they have people names and so these folks online have decided
Starting point is 01:55:43 that they must be selling children in those cabinets um and they have no evidence of this and now a lot of bullshit but a very serious question here yes they think that because they believe that is a smart idea they think that because they're confused about why the price is so high that's the best that's as best i can tell no i know but i mean you ascribe to your i mean obviously so they think that it would be a smart idea if you were one of these people selling i mean i think i think that a lot of people get their ideas and thinking poisoned by the concept of hiding in plain sight sure you know like you get that into your head yeah you start to think like oh it would be the perfect place to do it because right you know you would
Starting point is 01:56:28 no one would buy a twelve thousand dollar thing so if you did obviously you would be the person who knows to look for the child there wow yeah it's it's a bit it's a bit they're great yeah so uh alex knows the truth about it and he's you know a lot of people want to know what's up and we are back on this saturday afternoon emergency transmission without roger's never had so many people reaching out to me friends family neighbors emails text messages comments on info wars wanting to know about wayfarer and i know army commandos and cia operatives and fbi agents that have been contacting me and others who think this is real because they should be fired out incredibly obviously weird it is it's very weird it's very weird and that's the threshold of proof for a lot of people
Starting point is 01:57:25 that alex associates with that's all you need that's all you need cool so alex begins he already said that he knows the truth about this yes we've revealed it which is well he knows the truth that's important yes um because he now says he doesn't know what's okay now that said i'm not sure exactly what's going on here but i have a pretty good idea this is one of three things so there's three possibilities but you can't so he knows the truth he knows the truth he doesn't know what's up but it's one of these three things why don't words mean things i used to like words here are the three possibilities here's the first one either it's a money laundering operation and so they had these numbers and what would be in the cabinet would be drugs or something or you're paying more
Starting point is 01:58:05 for something because you're using drug money to pay for it that goes on all over the place online it it's it's happening every millisecond okay where you've got a hundred dollar cabinet a two hundred dollar cabinet i've actually bought cabinets like these that you add a couple zeros to or whatever and now it is twelve thousand thirteen thousand fourteen thousand dollars as alex implying that he's longer money twelve thousand thirteen thousand dollar longer money longer money seems weird he would have used to phrase that better yeah sounds suspicious so that's the first option sure here's the second so it's either money laundering or it is the big mistake they said and some fool added zeros to it that's not what they said but
Starting point is 01:58:47 that's the second option so maybe i just added zero okay so massive conspiracy to launder money yes could be an oopsie could be option three or is it really that they're advertising this as a package a container symbolizing they're going to deliver you a child drugged up in one of these cabins i said there's three things because actually four people are going to debate and say so these are the three options what do you think he's going to go with money laundering uh-huh big old oopsie selling kids and cabinets i'm gonna have to go with he's gonna say this is the big one and we've caught him that's uh that's an interesting uh possibility uh but unfortunately it's a trick question but there's a fourth god damn it i
Starting point is 01:59:34 i said there was a fourth okay all right fine think about that no i refuse see i've experienced the fourth yes you know i believe this is the fourth from all the evidence and how outrageous it is and how obvious it is and how it's designed and mint well i can you put a big old juicy nightcrawler worm on the end of a hook and drop it in there for the bass or the purge of the crappie false flag because it smells good it's wiggling around they're gonna want to take a bite out of it yeah so the fourth option is it the trap it's a false flag yeah the globalists have created this in order for you know conspiracy theorists or whatever to find and amplify as a trap in order to invalidate other stories about crimes against children um i mean whatever this is ludicrous
Starting point is 02:00:28 i i i feel like i feel really frustrated with that thought process yeah no it's frustrating because if you think that that's what it okay here's what the globalists need to trap you aha nothing hmm you're you're saying to all of your conspiracy lad and friends that the globalists don't even need to work hard to get you guys to believe stupid shit well i mean it was the same thing with his rationalization for the stuff about the obama's birth certificate the birth or is sure is like the globalists put out the kenyan birth certificate because they knew that the right wing was racist right they would say would say that he was born in kenya when in reality he was the child of the anti or the the communist pornographer you're just admitting
Starting point is 02:01:15 you're all so fucking stupid that you're willing to make you'll fall out of anything yeah you'll fall for anything you'll fall for anything yeah that's a huge insult right i guess you think all right so alex believes there's this fourth option and that is this is a trap it's a honey or whatever yeah of course i think that he's not considering a fifth option and that is that the people who make up the large bulk of his audience right are not very good at discerning information okay there's that good at critical thinking right and they're going to pizza gate all over again naturally when you look at this it's not just that they added zeros to it it's not money laundering it looks like because it's the names of girls and it's not like they have three cabins or 20
Starting point is 02:02:01 cabins it's it's all these products named after little girls and a bunch of them are really weird names you don't even know what you get when you buy a boat kidnap children on the backs of milk gardens and in your internet warnings now why in the hell would they put out ads to really deliver you children in cabinets and then put the actual names of kids on this this is one thing and one thing only i do conditionally admire alex say that saying um the why would they do this i like at least even alex can be like this is stupid unacceptable unacceptable to me unacceptable to me the moment you the moment you add in the fact that you can think to yourself uh-huh this would be a dumb thing for someone to do but it's all invalid but honestly it's only because alex got embarrassed
Starting point is 02:02:54 so badly with pizza gay probably that's the only reason that he's behaving like this well see now you're adding that he can learn that's really bummer too well but that's just because it was dangerous that guy showed up with a gun there that's true and if he did this stuff again like he that's too traceable yeah like he needs to be on the right side of this in case it does break that he knows that and that's why this whole conversation largely is like hey remember what happened with pizza gay sure and then him trying to pretend he didn't behave you never had anything to do with it yeah you remember all of this it was top story on drudge top story all over the place now this broke for about a week or two and then suddenly out of the potastas and out of the
Starting point is 02:03:40 democratic party cnn the new york times the washington post all the same morning came out and said wow bizarre claims that a pizza place has a dungeon under it and that they're killing kids and selling them and they've got all these things out that look pedophilic and look at these other businesses they do as well and it turned out some of the stuff was really creepy and weird and then we had check the so big uh interviewed about how creepy it was there and we covered there's a bunch of people they needed to check it out and it's right suspicious uh they have to look we got to check out their menu with fucking crazy saying that i'm going to get on a plane and go to dz myself to check this out you can't prove that i said that there's no person
Starting point is 02:04:19 who has recordings of those things right um well i mean alex has tried to delete them from the internet but they're still there so i mean like obviously the argument that he's trying to make is that the podesta emails and all these wiki leaks things came out and they had a real code about trafficking people sure and then the the whole thing with pizza gate ended up just being a distraction from the real things right right and now the geelyne maxwell who he still hasn't figured out how to pronounce her name um is been arrested this is in order to cover up that as opposed to possibly just mass delusions people who feed into each other's internet behaviors they go on these vicarious hunts where they think that they're doing something and lose yeah exactly um i think that
Starting point is 02:05:13 that's a much easier explanation because that's exactly what happened with pizza gate i watched pizza gate happened in real time yeah i was on those like reddit boards where like reddit conspiracy board where people were like coming up with new pieces of information and then some of it gets rejected some of it like people explore more and then like a couple days later someone like remember three days ago someone said this and we we ignored it and then they'll bring it back in like i watched that happen in real time i i this is this is game right but the thing with wayfarer that stuff happened much quicker yeah that broke like that we're primed for it now you know right we've all got the the playbook i you know at our at our fingertips and there are enough people who have
Starting point is 02:05:55 such low standards for bringing things to the public's attention uh in like q and on accounts that can amplify things really effectively that you can go from nothing to oh god so fast so fast yep now here's what's really funny alex wants roger stone isn't on this show that is pretty funny that's very funny alex wants you to believe that he did nothing with pizza gate and he knew he knew it looked bad from the beginning he was so smart and so in this next clip he throws his staff under the bus oh no that's what you get for not getting the sky calls right your pizza gate yeah he's like they they did that and then he alleges with no proof that cnn people were the ones who were posting this stuff on forching wow in order to get pizza gate going in the first
Starting point is 02:06:45 place so i'm sitting there and i say i'm going on vacation for a week to cancun stop covering it i smell a rat they're diverting us to this off of that they didn't stop i love the crew and that's then how the media got us and said that we created a fake story and they use that not being accurate even though we didn't create it cnn msnbc they no doubt their operatives put it on forchan hey champ that disinformation is there then we cover it then they flip it when we broke the big spirit cooking we were the first to get it out and drug posted so you're proud and they turn with alchemy from the real kids and the real farm houses and the real 65 000 dollars of hot dogs and the blood and the semen and the breast milk and the allister
Starting point is 02:07:33 Crowley and the devil worship and all these photos and videos of little kids all scared and women dressed like witches and big vats of blood and maria bravanovic and her and reddit posts saying yeah i i do rituals for real and all of that got distracted by the media then focusing in on there was no basement in the pizza place right but you did that too you weren't in cancun well maybe you were in cancun but you still engaged in this so you can you can pretend all you want but it's it's nonsense that's pathetic but because of how embarrassing that whole thing was and how much i guess alex took a hit on it and probably felt exposed yeah he must have he must have gotten more something than well i mean it's one of those times that he had to give a big public
Starting point is 02:08:20 apology to james alafonte that's true and so like there's a decent chance that he just thought like fuck um the too close too close on this one and i that might be why he learned his lesson but he didn't learn it all the way so he um it's not just geelyne maxwell getting arrested it's also all of these stories that he's been talking about out of germany um for some reference there are two stories out of germany that alex has been covering one of them has to do with uh in the past there were homeless children who were given to foster parents who were known to be pedophiles this is horrifying and the studies of it and the reporting on it is unclear the scope to which this was taking place but it does not appear to be what you'd call a widespread not
Starting point is 02:09:15 that makes it any better still horrifying yeah qualifications fine and the other story is about a soldier who was arrested fairly recently i believe at the end of last year an investigation surrounding him has led to the uncovering of an online child pornography sharing network that does involve some crimes against children and there were 30 000 leads that the police had to go on right um and so alex has those two stories and i believe his intention is to say that this way fair story is trying to somehow block that distract from the right gotcha that story but he's treating those two stories as kind of the same story right even though they're not the same story at all it's really complicated but the way he starts talking
Starting point is 02:10:06 about this stuff in this next clip really kind of brought into focus something i found really disturbing about alex's thought patterns as i would need that article earlier just type in german psychiatrists german government gave children to pedophiles and of course they first reported all was just a few thousand in one town then it turned out it was a spider web all over the country see how they limited that as well to dw.com as well okay just boom so again ladies and gentlemen let's put that back on screen please understand what's going on the week that broke i said watch next week it'll break the tens of thousands of children are involved with thousands of adults exactly as i said it broke why i read a british psychological warfare manual uh that just
Starting point is 02:10:53 so happened to be being sold that i bought at barns and noble like 20 years ago they talked about their techniques after world war two in africa and they said if one of our corporations kills say 5 000 villagers we need to get out ahead of it and say they killed 20 and put out our fake story so that when it comes out it's 5 000 people will average it together in their mind so because the head psychiatrist over cps in berlin was sending thousands of children to pedophiles they first reported on his case and not how it was much larger tight trading the dose preparing you for what was about to come out now you understand how the enemy operates so that's what this is i can still find no evidence to support the claims that alex is making in that clip
Starting point is 02:11:35 exaggerating the reporting on the facts fact that the foster care system in west berlin did place homeless children with known pedophiles again to stress that point any number of children is unacceptable i'm only pointing out that alex appears to just be making up information to help his narratives be more sensational yeah like i said what's going on here is he's combining two unrelated stories out of germany uh that we've covered the first is about those homeless youths being placed in foster care with pedophiles and the second story is about the 30 000 leads that the police have with the modern day network of of of that sure so it's wrong to minimize this kind of thing at all but it's equally wrong to sensationalize it the prior story the one about
Starting point is 02:12:21 the foster care system is the one that alex wants to talk about right and the second story includes the number 30 000 which alex likes he wants to amplify so alex has just combined them into being about the same thing when they're not right that being said the real reason that i pulled this clip is because how clearly it demonstrates a flaw in alex's thinking patterns he believes that everything is psych warfare so he's gotten himself into a very bizarre mode where he's essentially given himself permission to lie about everything because he's rationalized that the thing that he's lying about is just psych warfare to begin with let's take this specific example alex is lying about reporting about the german foster care story but he doesn't see it as lying because he believes
Starting point is 02:13:03 that the original reporting is just the globalists getting ahead of the story in order to soften the blow when the real story comes out another story uh justifying his embellishment has not come out but an unrelated story about a similar topic has so he's just that good enough and he's claimed a victory about everything this kind of thought pattern goes a long way towards explaining why alex can't report a straight version of any story he can't stick to reality and it's nearly impossible for him to not exaggerate details to fit his narratives that's because he thinks reality that is being reported is just psych warfare so when he exaggerates a story he thinks that what he's doing is just compensating for that to make the story match up with actual reality in fact what
Starting point is 02:13:47 he's doing is making things up and lying but he doesn't experience it that way if that last clip at all accurately expresses alex's beliefs then it would be fair to say that his version of truth could be described as lying about things you think are lies yep that to me is really eye-opening yeah yeah because just uh just making it up hit like because what's he what's he what he said well because the story is a lie to begin with right of course so what he's saying is that the way fair situation is a hoax to distract from the two situations that he has conflated into its own hoax that will distract from the actual individual circumstances that both stories are not dealing with whatsoever and gillian maxwell somehow and gillian maxwell somehow yes and all of this is
Starting point is 02:14:35 fine because sometimes the globalists are lying to you and sometimes they're not because of course i can quote new york times and and all of those things whenever they set up match up with what i think they should but if they don't psych warfare exactly everything that disagrees with what i believe is lies to me and everyone else when it when it's convenient this story is psych warfare so i can lie to adjust to compensate for whatever i believe the psych warfare is in whatever direction that is me depicting reality as opposed to what it actually is in lying yeah so i think that's interesting and it kind of i don't i don't want to say it gives me closure but it definitely gives me a better understanding of why he's such a liar and why he doesn't think he's such a liar
Starting point is 02:15:26 yeah that is because if you believe like if you believe what he's saying there like if he actually believes that about what he does and how information works yeah you could justify coming up with any story you want sure and then just being like no this is the truth that story is the whitewash right that's the fake version of the story i've made up a number that feels right based on me calling this a whitewash right and explains a large swath of his behavior well and it's a bomber and the thing about that is not to by no means do i experience any empathy for him in this way but what that is essentially saying is that i will never accept good news because it doesn't conform to my version of reality do you know what i mean like everything that provides good
Starting point is 02:16:21 and and joy he lies about in order to facilitate the continuation of this globalist conspiracy and he amplifies every negative news source as long as it helps with his conspiracy theory and any real news is negative because it helps with his conspiracy theory and so at any and all times he is experiencing nothing but panic fear and rage if he actually is if he actually is then yeah he's he's living i mean he's torturing himself right i'm less concerned with that i mean i don't know i'm not at all concerned with that i'm just trying to i'm just trying to feel like there's an empathy i can extend to his loved ones and the people around him totally but my empathy goes far more to the people who listen to him and believe him oh absolutely like how can
Starting point is 02:17:09 you listen to this guy and take it seriously when he's like clearly expressing to you that like yeah i read news stories and then i just make up stuff because it's like warfare yeah that's ridiculous yeah it's really it's really sad like the people who believe him and follow this stuff have just unknowingly essentially been tricked into a cult of alex yeah like it's just whatever he interprets and experiences as true is presented as truth and he will harangue you with references to like arcane and obscure documents you haven't read and he hasn't either yeah in order to justify his positions and it's all just a fucking parlor trick yep it's ridiculous it's very sad it's very sad really sad well for the people who believe it yes it's sad for alex ultimately
Starting point is 02:17:58 because i mean like this legacy doesn't hold up like no like let's say we survive the current troubles we're in yeah like his history doesn't go down well in the same way that we can look back on the john birch society and all like right thinking people could be like they were anti communist lunatics yeah they were way out of line alex's legacy is going to be similar like he's what he has done with his life his life's work will look like shit yeah and that kind of sucks but i don't think he cares yeah i mean you know in the same way that his listeners are victims in participants participants in their own kind of miserable existence alex is visiting upon them and himself as it's unfortunate he's torturing everyone yeah in in proximity to him so i told
Starting point is 02:18:48 you that including me i told you that there was a conditional aspect to me saying that alex was like well at least he can even see through this would be stupid this way fair conspiracy now the reason it's conditional it's because he's about to say that it may be true the globalist have put out this disinformation because they know this is massive this is the zeitgeist people now understand it and they hope when it comes out this isn't true it'll somehow discredit it all i actually believe this will blow up in their face like pizzagate did what and people will see through all this and understand what's going on now could it be they're really money laundering could it be that they're actually these are real ads who knows they might be that bold and really doing it
Starting point is 02:19:28 it's an honest mistake and more zeros were at it i don't believe so because they're all named after little girls a bunch of them missing little girls to make everybody go crazy so he is saying that it's globalist dis disinformation but also maybe it's money laundering weird i know for a fact yes it's globalist globalist disinformation because now it may be the other things how could it be both how could it even be possible that it's money laundering if it's an intentional plan by the globalists to make your side look bad and make it look like all right dan well it's like in chess when you're when you when you've got a pin all right i don't know is the germany like zufsvang or whatever it is i don't know but it's like a lot of chess whatever whatever move your enemy makes
Starting point is 02:20:20 you get to take one of their pieces no matter what happens uh huh it's it's so so this is why if you are laundering money you both actually launder money and also make it look like you're not laundering money unless somebody figures out that you're laundering money in which case it will blow up in your face just like pizza gate blew up in their faces definitely no one else's face no not at least a gate blow up in um yeah but i will say i and this is convoluted and stupid there's no way i i appreciate your attempt to stretch this uh in a way that makes sense credulity you just can't no not possible but at least alex is pretty clear that this is a stupid way to try and deliver traffic to children you really think the group like this would ship thousands of kids
Starting point is 02:21:06 around in containers not knowing the truck's gonna wreck or one's gonna fall open or the kid's gonna die in one no folks no it's not true it's not real that's why they are doing all of this they didn't make typos on hundreds and hundreds of items we're going over right now i'll have more tomorrow this was done as bait and they use names of real children that are missing and to make people take the bait and say oh my god this is real so this is bait this is bait it's the globalists putting out this uh this this honey trap it's bait now that would make this next clip tough to hear uh which he says almost immediately after because it is coming out they can't hide it the system doesn't know what to do so i've been set up like this and i did they
Starting point is 02:21:53 didn't completely defeat me we figured it out and turned it around on it did you but this is meant to just credit the real work that police are engaged in in my view and maybe you disagree with the comments below but if the globalists have gotten bold enough and maybe i'm wrong to ship kids actually in containers like this uh psychos when they get don't get caught for a while and get away with a lot of them go crazy even crazier and start wanting to get caught and who the hell knows anymore i mean this is just unbelievable but but know this this was not an accident that they used a bunch of little girls names and some of missing girls complete with first and last names that is not this was done to bait you away from all the other real stuff info wars dot com news wars dot
Starting point is 02:22:35 com tomorrow's news today so that's the end of his uh special report this is not how you do this this is not good because he's clearly clearly articulating his position that this is bait this is to try and uh sucker people into going down this rabbit hole or whatever and then right at the end he's like oh maybe i don't know maybe the globalists are sending out kids in these containers why are you doing that if you know that that's ludicrous and bait why are you making the bait possibly attractive to your audience what are you doing i think it's because he hates me i think this is i've decided honestly i'm full on solipsis now i am the only person that exists and alex is here because he hates me i know i know this is insane i can counter your argument i don't know
Starting point is 02:23:27 you wouldn't believe me yes but things that happen when you're not here it's a hoax um you oh my god how can you even he's got a knife ladies and gentlemen he's got a knife oh no he's coming towards me uh how can you how can you how can you how can you turn this somehow into you being the victim no that's a good that's a good point yeah that is uh that is a good uh thought it is it is it does seem like he does that a lot bunch of random people found some random bullshit on wayfair and i'm the victim well well clearly this is targeted at me clearly these q and on folks who are posting all of these these wayfair conspiracies it's really just an attempt by the globalist to entrap me alex covering this in order to delegitimize my
Starting point is 02:24:18 already sterling remarkable unimpeachable record which i will then defeat them by revealing that it's a hoax while also leaving the possibility open that hey they might be doing it yeah hey i don't want to fully close the door on this just in case i realize that it could be profitable what the fuck the thing about the honey trapped in there is honey in it and i like honey so i'm gonna pull my hair did they yeah i'm i'm i'm a little bit of honey yeah the fuck i don't know i i constantly am left with a feeling of like be wilder man at him because like first of all here we go like i mean here we go this whole thing is supposed to be like roger yes i do recall this being the day that roger mm okay it is a profound statement that roger stone didn't show up the
Starting point is 02:25:10 next day oh yeah on info wars when alex did an emergency broadcast about him getting clemency that cannot be overstated the idea that man cow was at the same hotel where roger stone theoretically was you got it and was in his vicinity and didn't give him the phone do you want to talk to alex real quick the fact that all of that happened is damning yeah it demonstrates alex's relative position to other folks um and then this way fair stuff is is real real shitty real real shitty man i just it's just such a bummer i would love it if alex had the backbone that it took to just be like fuck you roger yeah fuck you that would be nice you're done that would be nice you i've i've debased to myself for you to the point where i've lost my entire business i'm going down
Starting point is 02:26:08 my life as a shambles now do i have a lot to do with that totally the least roger could do is show all you have to do is show up yeah just say thanks alex for all you've done give me a thank you and then say oh i got to go or i'm not feeling well or why hey i was celebrating so much i'm hungover i'm hungover and everyone everyone who's listening to the show would be like fuck yeah you are yeah you just got out of prison buddy yeah you get shit faced yeah and alex all you need to do is get a thank you and roger didn't give you the thank you so cut ties forever no he's just okay well it's too early uh as we're recording this on sunday to know if he was actually on sunday although i assume he probably was probably but still that's a day and a half after it's too long
Starting point is 02:26:53 nope that's too long uh-uh you got you got rat fucked like we told you you would probably god damn it i hate it yep and i hate that we had to listen to bank cow but it is what it is anyway we'll be back jordan but until then we have a website we do have a website it's knowledge fight dot com we're also on twitter we are on twitter it's at knowledge underscore fight and i go to bed jordan we're also on facebook we are but if you would like please find a bail fund or charity in your area that will help take care of people who need it yeah all right we'll be back but until then i'm neo i'm leo i'm dzx clark i really want to know what that bohemian grove news was andy in chansas you're on the air thanks for holding well i like some of the same color i'm a huge fan
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