Knowledge Fight - #462: July 26, 2020
Episode Date: July 29, 2020Today, Dan and Jordan give Alex Jones a mulligan and pretend that this is his first show back from vacation since his Saturday "emergency report" was such a dud. In this installment, Alex's commitment... to the second amendment wavers and Ted Nugent threatens Dan's will to keep on keeping on.
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Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
I'm Jordan.
We're a couple dudes that sit around
and drink novelty beverages and talk
just a little about Alex Jones.
Indeed we are Dan.
Jordan.
Jordan.
Quick question.
You go first.
What's your bright spot?
You go first.
Oh, we've been together too long.
Now you're answering my questions
before I answer them.
Uh-huh.
Yes.
I'm a psychic.
That's my bright spot.
I'm a magician, Jordan.
No, I have an incredibly dark
bright spot.
Great.
Paper Mario.
No.
No.
Which is that our friend of the show, Molly C,
at Socialist Dog Mom on Twitter.
Mother of two very cute dogs.
It is out of lock up.
Officially.
She's still got all kinds of legal mumbo jumbo
to deal with.
Yeah.
It's good that she's out and it's a truly
horrifying travesty that she was ever like.
She has made me create a new stat.
Uh-huh.
All right.
What's that?
I call it murders above replacement person.
Uh-huh.
Like she could commit two murders and still be better
than the replacement person.
Do you know what I'm saying?
Three murders.
She's not there yet.
She's getting there.
It's an interesting stat.
I think it's great.
I don't know if we should use still a net positive.
Do you know what I mean?
I'm not sure if we should get into like murder and human
lifesaver metrics.
All right.
I'm not sure.
That might be smart.
Money murder ball is the way you want to go with things.
Um, but yeah, I saw, I saw that on Twitter and I was very,
very worried and, uh, but it looks like a great amount of
support to you, Molly.
You are, uh, out there on the front lines and the fascism.
Good for you.
So, uh, my bright spot, a little different.
Um, I actually got a, uh, do a combination.
Combination.
Looking into the mail bag.
All right.
Yep.
All right.
And also checking in on the year of the.
So, um, first things first, uh, big thank you to our audience.
This is really speaks highly of our audience that, uh, on our
last episode, I mentioned that, uh, I got some unmarked Rishi
seltzers.
Yes.
Yeah.
No one falsely took responsibility.
That's great.
Anybody could have emailed me and been like, it was me.
I believe you.
Yeah.
Uh, no, that was, uh, I got a message from Amy.
Thank you so much.
I really appreciate, uh, sending this sampler pack.
I've not gotten a chance to, uh, try them, uh, yet, but, uh,
mostly out of fear because they look like they're fantastic.
Um, but, uh, also another, uh, little, uh, side care package
from Amy came along and, uh, there's like some treats for
Celine and, um, just very excited to plant some of this
pet grass, uh, that came along.
That's fantastic.
Also the, uh, got some masks from Brian.
We did.
We did.
Thank you very much, Brian.
Got one for me with a chili peppers on it.
Oh,
Kitas.
Indeed.
And I am just, uh, uh, smoke, smoke.
It looks like I'm smoking as I'm wearing a mask.
Noob.
I love it.
I believe.
I think you're right.
Yeah.
So last thing really quick, uh, in the, uh, seltzer mail bag,
which is what it's becoming kind of.
Um, so I mentioned on a recent episode.
Sure.
I think it was the last episode that Aaron, uh, sent in polar
seltzers.
Yes.
And I finally drank all of them.
And the summer series, I'm here to talk about it.
All right.
You would think that raspberry rosé or strawberry margarita
would be the ones that I declare the champions of this set
because raspberry rosé sounds like it would be amazing.
They're great.
I love raspberries.
I feel like the trying to create a wine kind of vibe.
I think that's a great idea.
Now.
I'm not going to say that they're bad.
They're good.
They're very good.
All of them are good.
Okay.
Surprise.
Surprise.
Victor.
Plum summer.
Really?
The best.
Really?
I had no idea.
This is the first plum seltzer.
I'm not going to.
I am not going to drink a seltzer that makes me shit myself.
Perfectly plum.
82 out of 100.
82 out of 100.
It's in the top five.
Is it because it keeps you regular?
No, I don't think I had any foul related response to it.
No, I was just blown away.
The flavor is really good.
It's complex.
It's unlike a lot of the other seltzers, like in terms of
it.
Much like passion fruit.
It's a fruit flavor that I didn't think I would enjoy.
I didn't know what I was getting into with the plum.
Sure.
Plum doesn't sound appealing.
So good.
All right.
All right.
So good.
All right.
What do we got from the raspberry rosé?
Raspberry rosé is coming in at seventy seven.
Seventy seven.
That's great.
That's great.
That's only five behind the plum.
I mean, look, it's not enough for the top five.
No, that's right.
At this point.
Although it is in all of them are in danger of Rishi knocking
them all out of the top five.
Quite frankly.
And as we all know, occasionally there could be a revised
ruling.
No, there can't be.
I was totally caught off guard.
Yeah.
On my heels.
But I was the last one of them.
I tried because I was like, I don't know about plum.
Sure.
Sure.
I don't think this is going to be good.
It was sitting in the fridge.
I was it was late.
I was working.
I was like, I need.
I need a little caffeine less beverage.
See what happens.
Fucking see the plum in there and I'm like, well, all right.
Here we go.
Got to do it.
Blown away.
Blown away.
So good.
All right.
So good.
And that's coming after a seventy seven.
Yeah.
It's not like you were expecting anything to beat that kind of
level, right?
No, not at all.
Plum came out of nowhere.
Yeah.
I mean, we had like, I think the lowest of them was the Kiwi
pink grapefruit, but that was still a sixty eight.
That's still solid.
Yeah.
Their whole series of summer ones were really good.
Really good.
But plum.
Plum it is.
This has been my bright spot is plums.
Yeah.
Maybe I got to fuck around and get some plums in my life.
Got to fuck around and get some plums.
So there's a thirty four year old.
Yeah, maybe.
Maybe I'll grow into aging really well.
I love plums.
So Jordan, today we had an interesting thing to go over.
We're going to be talking about July 26th, twenty twenty.
I'm Dan.
This is twenty twenty.
Dammit.
This is Sunday's episode.
Uh-huh.
You know, our last episode, we talked about Alex's special
report that he put out on Saturday.
I felt like it was, it was kind of, I believe the word used
was perfunctory.
Yes.
It was lacking a little bit of his show.
Very much unnecessary.
So I figured like let's give him another chance.
Let's pretend he's coming back from a vacation on Sunday.
Okay.
Let's pretend he didn't do that.
Mulligan.
Mulligan.
Yeah.
So we're going to pretend that he's been out of studio.
Just come back in here.
I might have also covered Monday's episode, but I kind of got
about three quarters of the way through this episode.
And I just got pass.
Yeah.
I just got, I got, he has a guest on.
I was like, I don't even care anymore.
What I realized is like our show is essentially like, uh, if
you listen to somebody, like a commentator, anybody, and
they're like Soros is a Nazi collaborator.
Sure.
You know, I don't need to listen to this person.
They are, they are a fucking weirdo and a liar.
Yeah.
They're in our government.
Our show is essentially like, what if we didn't take red flags?
What if we kept listening to people we should have stopped
listening to long ago?
Sure.
That's true.
And it became unbearable after about three quarters of this
episode.
He didn't have diamond and silk.
He had the cubic zirconian linen.
I don't think that I think that they're outside of his.
They're two.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You might be right.
Yeah.
I think they've moved beyond Alex Jones.
Oh, poor bastard.
Before we get down to business Jordyn.
It's take a little moment here to say thank you to folks who
signed up and are sporting the show.
So first, Douglas M. Thank you so much.
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I get Douglas Okay Ted.
Tyler c.
Thank you so much.
You're not Alex won.
I'm a policy won.
Thanks, Tyler.
You next Robin.
See.
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You know, policy, what I'm a policy wank.
Thank
you, Robin.
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See you.
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Next.
I think books are neat.
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I think books are neat too.
Me three.
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Ryan C.
Another C.
What is going on?
What's happening?
The C family.
Strongly policy wonkish.
I'm a policy wonk.
Thank you, Ryan.
And finally, like I said, thank you to a couple people who
donated on an elevated level.
We appreciate that very much.
So Sean R.D.
Thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat Tom D.
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You are now a technocrat and Sam.
Thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
I'm a policy wonk.
Crikey, mate.
That's fantastic.
Have yourself a brew.
How's your 401k doing, bro?
All right.
We got to go full tilt buggy on this Watson.
All right.
Let's just get down to business.
We ain't making that money off that heroin.
Why are you pimp so good?
My neck is freakishly large.
I declare info war on you.
Thank you so much, Sean.
Thank you so much, Tom.
And thank you so much, Sam.
Yes.
Thank you very much to all of you.
Yeah.
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I'd like to support these gents too.
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Is that a big, what have you?
Absolutely.
So Jordan, we start here on Sunday.
Alex has been out of studio for a week and we pretend that he didn't do a
special report.
That was a disaster.
You know, you get back from a trip and you're just a little groggy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You shake the cobwebs off.
Yeah.
You get them all again.
You're coming in and you start complaining.
You're going to see an end the police dogs of thought crime.
Sinclair says it will postpone and rework segment featuring conspiracy
theory about Fauci.
And it says that without any proof, though they don't show the piece,
they were going to look at Fauci at the NIH for 45 years involved in
gain of function transfers of weaponized coronavirus during the
Obama administration.
So here's what happened with Sinclair at the end of last week that Alex
is now covering.
They did a great job.
They did.
So Eric Bowling did an episode of his show where he interviewed the
woman from Plandemic, Judea McCovitz, and they did a ridiculous
conspiracy piece about the allegations that Dr. Fauci created
COVID-19.
It was straight up info wars shit and they probably felt really good
about it when they shot the video.
But unfortunately they'd flown too close to the info wars son and
people like Oliver Darcy at CNN took notice.
Darcy wrote an article on CNN pointing out how embarrassing this
episode of Bowling's show was and in response Sinclair decided to
postpone the episode and quote rework it.
Wow, something bowling did was embarrassing.
Oh, that's crazy.
They thought that they could put it out and just fly under the radar,
but it turns out that people noticed and Sinclair rightly realized
that putting out this episode would probably be damaging to their
brand.
That's a doodle on our part on Monday Sinclair announced that
they were giving up on trying to rework the segment and we're just
going to shelf the entire thing and not air it saying of McCovitz
quote given the nature of the theories she presented we believe
it not appropriate to air the interview.
So we're Sinclair and we were really excited to air this stuff
that we believe 100% but you guys realize she's crazy.
So we like money more than our lives.
This is just an example of a brand that enjoys a certain amount
of mainstream appearance going one step too far and realizing
they're probably in jeopardy of being seen for what they are,
which is another info wars.
CNN didn't tell them not to air the piece.
That's just dumb spin Alex is putting on this story to make it
possible for him to report and reporting on this story is going
to be a challenge for him and the reason for that actually has
to do with that episode of Bowling's show.
Alex has to be in support of McCovitz because she's
stridently anti-vaccine and she's spreading all the COVID-19
conspiracies that are Alex's bread and butter right now loves it.
However, the other guest on that program is going to be an issue.
The other guest was McCovitz's lawyer Larry Clayman.
That asshole is everywhere.
He's like a bad penny showing up for those of you who don't keep
up with our sundry weirdos who populate Alex's world.
Larry Clayman was a friend of Alex's back in the Obama bashing days,
but in more recent times, they've become bitter enemies.
Most recently, Clayman along with Jerome Corsi filed the
defamation lawsuit against Roger and Alex, which is likely doomed
to failure, but isn't the sort of thing you expect to see going
down between allies.
Alex is going to have to somehow dance around the fact that
Clayman is McCovitz's lawyer and you've got to assume that this
is going to preclude her from ever appearing on info wars.
Roger's not giving you those fucking computers.
This is all just very sad.
And honestly, I'm super bummed out that I know about the interpersonal
dynamics of these con artists.
It's like I see her on the bowling show with Clayman as her lawyer.
I'm like, wow, she's not going on info wars now.
You shouldn't be embarrassed.
You know about the complicated interpersonal conflicts between
characters on Degrassi, Dan.
So let's leave the embarrassment behind.
My reality TV show is con artists and their lawyers.
Yeah, it's that's way better than like if you're real housewives
of Beverly Hills in it.
It's hard to find people to gab about this stuff with.
Yeah, well, that's true. Yeah, that's true.
This is an isolating hobby of ours.
Much more easy to find someone to talk to about the bachelor
than like, hey, do you what's going on with Larry Clayman?
Socially options are like Melissa got voted off, but also
claiming it's not getting those computers back.
Clayman got four clients, but he also can't practice law for 90 days.
Yeah. Okay. Yeah.
That might be an issue.
Dan, I got to go.
I know you do.
No, no, I agree with you.
Yeah.
So my cat likes hearing about it.
Yeah.
But Alex gets into talking about his conspiracies about Fauci
and how Sinclair should be airing this.
Of course they should.
It's the truth.
And so Alex, Alex has his like sort of beats his waypoints that
he goes to in order to prove his Fauci conspiracies.
And they're just headlines.
Fauci at the NIH for 45 years.
Involving gain of function transfers of weaponized coronavirus
during the Obama administration.
Now, Dr. McCamshaw, please look right here.
Okay.
NIH lifts funding pause on gain of function research.
Got him.
NIH.gov.
That's it.
And it gets into Fauci and the programs and bill them on the gates.
The actual gain of function.
No, it doesn't.
And that article is not going to help Alex as much as he wants to
think.
This is a real post on the NIH's website and Alex is reading the
title correctly, but he's neglecting to mention that the date is
December 19th, 2017, which falls just outside the conspiracy
timeline.
No, that's so Obama stopped being president technically on
January 20th, 2017.
Uh-huh.
And December 2017 is Obama's been president this whole time,
Dan.
No doubt.
Yeah.
Fauci was supposed to have done this back during Obama's
administration.
So if this lifting of the pause on gain of function research is
happening during Trump's presidency, that does nothing to
help her.
Alex's case.
This article begins quote.
Today, the National Institutes of Health announced that it is
lifting the funding pause dating back to October 2014 on
gain of function experiments involving influenza, SARS, and
MERS viruses.
Gain of function research is important in helping us identify
understand and develop strategies and effective counter
measures against rapidly evolving pathogens that pose a
threat to public health.
The funding pause was lifted in response to today's release of
the Department of Health and Human Services framework for
guiding funding decisions about proposed research involving
enhanced potential pandemic pathogens.
If you go and read that paper from the Department of Health
and Human Services, you'll immediately realize a few
things.
The first is that the head of the HHS at that time was Eric
Hargan, the fourth of five people that Trump has appointed to
that position in his term as president.
No, that was December 2017.
So he'd only taken office in January 20th.
So I assume that must be the first person that he...
There's a number of people who have been acting.
It was only 11 months difference between them.
So there's...
You pick a guy for at least a year, right, Dan?
No.
The Department of HHS, which is run by a Trump appointee and is
a department in the executive branch of the government, which
Trump is in charge of, put out this framework, which led to
the NIH lifting the pause on funding this research.
All of this traces back to Trump.
The second thing you notice is that this framework would never
justify or enable creating a bio weapon.
There are a bunch of criteria about what kind of research was
justifiable.
And the idea that that matches up with Alex's theories is
just laughable.
The third thing that jumps out here is that there's an entire
section in this document, this framework about oversight.
Any research that was funded because of this lifting of the
pause was subject to review by the Department of Health and
Human Services.
The entity that was funding the research would report on their
intention to the HHS and the Office of Science and Technology
Policy, who would evaluate the legitimacy of the research
in question.
The HHS would then quote, develop recommendations on
acceptability for HHS funding, including suggestions for
additional risk mitigation measures and or terms and
conditions of award if funded.
This is where it's just such a huge problem for Alex that he
doesn't read things past headlines.
He has an NIH headline that he thinks is a smoking gun, but
literally everything about this story doesn't match up with
the narrative that he's presenting and the actual source
he's pointing to really complicates the narrative.
Once you understand the review process and an oversight that's
built into the funding process of these NIH grants, it becomes
comical to imagine that what Alex is saying is even possible.
There would be so many people that would have to be in on this
and an impossibly long paper trail.
The headline sounds good to Alex though and that's all that
matters.
Dear HHS.
NIH.gov.
I am scientist.
I work hard.
Please prove my research into a bio weapon.
I would address this to the head of the HHS, but unfortunately,
I don't know who will be.
I don't know which one.
When this gets here.
A heart.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So that headline doesn't work.
I think it actually kind of works against his conspiracies.
Yeah, 100%.
But I mean, we know Alex.
He has more than one headline.
Sure.
Here's Newsweek.
Dr. Fauci back controversial Wuhan lab with U.S.
dollars for risky coronavirus research with spliced virus
Chimeras using weaponized bat viruses.
Oh, okay.
Oh, so a real important point.
Alex is editorializing a little bit on that headline.
Oh, yeah.
The actual headline is quote Dr. Fauci backed controversial
Wuhan lab with U.S.
dollars for risky coronavirus research.
So it didn't add the part about Chimeras.
Chimeras and the bat viruses.
A little bit of that was left that out.
Maybe editorialized.
Okay.
So I think the real headline to the one Alex is reporting kind
of makes clear how he doesn't feel like this story is juicy
enough on its own needs to make it a little bit sexier bat
virus.
Hi, Mara.
Come on.
This story is mostly about research going back to 2014 that
the NIH helped fund which involved Obama.
True.
Sorry for it.
This research involved virologist at that lab in Wuhan
surveilling and cataloging existing bat coronaviruses.
In 2019, they began doing some gain of function study,
but there's no evidence that this is at all related to
COVID-19.
And again, the NIH is only able to fund gain of function
research, like in this case, because of the framework that
was put out by the Trump Department of Health and Human
Services.
Wow, there's that.
It is true that Fauci supports gain of function research.
And if you want to have a debate about whether or not the
risks outweigh the potential breakthroughs,
that's a valid conversation to have.
It's not the conversation Alex is having.
So I'll leave that debate to be had elsewhere by people far
more knowledgeable on the topic than me.
The point here again is that Alex just has a headline with
nothing to go on that's any deeper than that.
And it doesn't even match up with what he said.
Yeah, yeah.
So he goes on this, like it's just really annoying to listen
to him try to make points because it's so much just shit
talk and then just reading headlines and being like,
see, I really don't understand how you can just read headlines
as if that proves your point.
You know what I'm saying?
And then misread the editorial.
Yeah, yeah.
Just like, oh, Dr. Fauci.
He created a Wuhan virus in the bat lab.
And so now he's killing everybody.
That proves everything Newsweek.
It's almost say that it's almost parody.
Like it really is.
But it's not.
But instead it's the same as the people who run the government.
So Alex is spinning his wheels on that for a little bit and
then he starts getting into race issues.
No, he should not.
He's feeling a little bit bad.
Don't do that.
Well, look, man, he wouldn't if white people weren't under attack.
Every turn.
We live in a cult.
Look at political correctness.
Yes, look at it.
What about it?
On YouTube, they get strikes on famous chess channels if
white knight takes black pawn because that could be seen as racist.
I don't think that's true.
I was telling the lawyer that he didn't believe me.
That's the level of the cult and we've bowed to them so much for
so long.
They think we're going to bow to them again and forever.
Oh, no, your mouth fell open here.
I imagine this is how that here's how that went.
Did you just give me an info wars article without without a
citation?
My mouth has fallen open.
Wow.
This is a story that Alex has completely forgotten.
This is a story that Alex is completely misrepresenting about
chess.
Sure.
His version of it is that people who are playing chess are
being accused of racism because, for example, one move is that
a white knight takes a black pawn.
The actual story is that this is based on is about a it's a
Sydney based ABC affiliate.
They were working on a segment exploring the idea that chess
is intrinsically racist because traditionally the white pieces
always get the first move.
This came to public attention on June 22nd when Australian
chess figure John Adams tweeted about being approached for a
comment for the segment, which he responded to with outrage.
From what I can tell about this segment, it was planned as an
exploration of whether or not this was something that had racist
roots.
It was trying to like come at it with without any bias at all.
Why is this the case?
Why is it that white people always go first?
You know, or just take white people out of it.
Why is it the case that traditionally chess always has the
white pieces go first?
It was meant to be a supplement to the conversation that was
happening about things like the name of the Washington football
team.
It wasn't meant to be a direct accusation that chess is racist.
Man, they are not going to want to hear about go.
Oh, yeah.
That came up in articles.
The ABC anchor who was working on this story, James Valentine,
has since tried to tell his side of the story, which is basically
as follows.
He saw a tweet from a parent who was musing about why the white
always go first based on a question that he'd received from
his child.
Valentine realized that he didn't know why that was the tradition
so he was working on a piece discussing it.
And as part of that, his producers reached out to various chess
experts in Australia, including this John Adams.
All right.
So they're curious.
Adams assumed that they were working on a story with the
angle that chess is racist, saying, quote, the ABC have taken
the view that chess is racist, given that white always goes
first.
They're seeking comment from a chess official as to whether
the rules of chess need to be altered.
Exclamation point.
Oh, boy.
Valentine responded in a Facebook post that quote, I haven't
decided that chess is racist.
I'm not looking for someone to say that chess is racist.
I'm looking to create some conversation that will be fresh
and will keep someone interested and will tell us something
more about the world and why it is the way it is.
Yeah, sure.
This is a zero.
And it's just yet another example of Alex lying about dumb,
misconstrued, trivial human interest stories in order to
amplify and spread white victimhood narratives.
A serious broadcaster with the level of importance that Alex
pretends he has wouldn't waste their time with a story that's
as dumb as this.
Like the version that Alex is telling, you know, I don't
understand how your reaction isn't the same as my reaction to
knowledge that I don't know, which is like, oh, why is that?
I would like someone to explain that to me or I can go look it
up right now instead of just being like, see, they're out of
control.
Yeah, I looked into it and I was going to explain it, but it's
not.
No, no.
I mean, the story is not really as interesting as I would like
it to be for me to tell you.
Right.
It basically is a thing where the people would alternate going
first and they'd get to choose their colors.
Right.
But then as tournament play came along, it became.
We need to standardize it in some way.
So this is an easier way for us to just be like instead of
being like, well, this time black went first.
So our annotation has to be altered.
It was more or less arbitrary.
Yeah.
Of course it is.
Great.
And it could have gone the other way.
It could have gone the other way.
If you want to have a conversation about whether or not back
when they made that decision between the black and the white
was their a subconscious bias.
I don't know how you'll ever get to the bottom of that.
But how could you?
But from what everything I can tell, it doesn't seem like,
you know, we've uncovered any deeply racist story here.
Okay, now somehow I feel like a fellow might be racist.
Who knows?
Because a fellow.
Okay, never mind.
Backgammon.
Don't even get me started.
Yeah.
So what's really going on here in the story that Alex is
covering poorly is that a guy tweeted out a misrepresentation
of a planned ABC Sydney story about the history of chess and
then white identity adherents got really mad about it.
Of course they did.
That's all that's going on here.
They are not hard to rile up.
No, certainly not.
No, it doesn't take much.
There's a bit of attention going on surrounding protests.
Sure.
Certainly there are things that are going on in Portland.
Oh, like what?
Still there are other cities.
Seattle had some flare up.
Totally.
As you mentioned.
Yeah.
Enrichment.
And Austin, there was a guy who was shot at a protest.
Which we'll get into in a little bit.
But in order to ease into that topic, Alex has to discuss
another person who was killed recently.
Black Trump supporter executed in broad daylight for holding
up a Trump sign in Wisconsin.
Leftist pledge.
Anyone supporting Trump will be murdered.
This person who died, Alex doesn't say his name ever.
Doesn't seem to care about anything other than the optics
surrounding it.
He's a black Trump supporter.
So you don't need to learn his name.
No, it's awful.
This guy didn't need to die.
Whatever the circumstances surrounding it, it's awful.
It is, you know, it's clearly on murder and should be treated
as such.
Yeah.
But there's misreporting going on to it, at least at this
point.
It's unclear whether this guy was murdered because of support
for Trump or something else.
Right.
There isn't any reason that Alex should be reporting this
as that other than he could speculate about it if he wanted
to.
But that's not what he's doing.
He's reporting it very concretely that it was in
retaliation for supporting Trump.
He's saying it's a fact.
Yeah.
And I think that making a bigger deal out of this is in order to
help deflect from the fact that.
Oh, of course.
In Austin, in his own city, there is a very clear cut case of
someone who was a protester, who Alex should support, who was
murdered.
Yeah.
Austin protester allegedly armed with AK-47.
I don't know why it says allegedly.
He had an AK-47.
It was a semi-automatic version of that.
Shot by a driver while blocking traffic and approaching
vehicle.
We're going to get to that first right now.
Listen to what?
By the way, it looks like this guy's background.
You talk about it.
Why?
I'm just going to leave it at that.
You talk about bazaar and stupid, larping out at night,
blocking traffic with a gun pointed at somebody's, a threat
people have a right to defend themselves.
But this individual, he's got his name, all the information is
on him, FullWars.com.
Here's what he said about 10 minutes before he ran out with
a mob to stop cars, pointed his gun reportedly at somebody
and got shot.
Here it is.
I saw a little bit about the gun again.
Oh, it's an AK-47.
Why'd you got it out tonight?
They don't let us march in the streets anymore, so got to
practice some of all right.
Do you feel like you're going to use it?
No.
I think the, I mean, if I use it against the cops, I'm dead.
And I think all the people that hate us and, you know, want to
say shit to us are too big of a pussies to stop and actually
do anything about it.
Why'd you start carrying?
Well, our roommate got arrested and they stopped letting us
march anywhere, so started carrying.
You're a great virtue to say more so.
I'm not sure what Alex thinks that this demonstration
proves.
That was a guy saying that the police were arresting people
he knew for expressing their right to assemble.
So he was carrying his gun to exercise his second amendment
rights.
He didn't say that he was planning on shooting anyone and
Alex would be reporting this very differently if he was
reporting or if he was protesting for some other cause.
Absolutely.
The protesting question here is 28-year-old Garrett Foster
who was shot and killed by a driver in Austin on Saturday
evening.
Witnesses have been pretty universal and they're telling
the story that the driver was the instigator and aggressor
in the situation, despite accusations that Foster shot
at the driver first and was the driver's only firing and
self-defense.
In reality, protesters didn't really even surround the guy's
car, which was another accusation that was made to
justify Foster's murder.
Videos have been released which clearly show the guy in the
car turning at an intersection specifically where
marchers were crossing.
The protesters were marching and the intersection is
blocked, which is inconvenient, but this driver drove and
accelerated specifically into a group of people, which is
completely unacceptable.
According to New York Magazine, quote, witnesses and
police say that the motorist fired on Foster after he
approached the vehicle and that Foster did not fire his
weapon, but there are conflicting reports about whether
or not Foster did anything to threaten the driver.
Witnesses have told reporters that Foster kept his rifle
pointed at the ground as he approached the vehicle and that
he was not the only protester carrying a firearm at the
march.
They say that the driver pointed a handgun through the car
window and fired at Foster.
There were apparently two people who fired weapons, but
Austin Police Chief Brian Manley has said that, quote,
the first person who appeared to a fire was the driver and
then a second person, not Foster, drew a concealed handgun
and opened fire at the car as it drove away.
This is a tragic story and there's no reason that Garrett
Foster should be dead right now.
For Alex to justify this killing is ghoulish to say nothing
of how much this implicates and calls into question his
belief in a citizen's right to bear arms.
Like this is this should be his big issue.
Nope.
White citizens right to bear arms.
That's the only thing that's the only thing.
Foster is white.
I don't understand.
I don't understand.
Well, it's because he was there for.
Leftists aren't people.
Yeah, leftists aren't people.
That's so fucked up.
That's so fucked up.
The Second Amendment is actually negotiable to Alex,
which is maybe one of the things that we were considering
the last domino that could possibly fall.
For his like it turns out.
It turns out that if you have different political beliefs
from him, you do not have the most essential right that Alex
believes Americans have.
To the extent that he will smear you and make you look like
the person who's in the wrong after you've been killed.
Yeah, just, you know, in order to get around that.
So Alex doesn't have to defend him as someone who is expressing
their Second Amendment right to be armed.
Yeah, in his state, in his home state, his hometown.
Yeah, I have no idea what Alex is talking about when he says
that he looked into Foster and that he's a creep.
I looked into it.
I just don't know what he could be talking about.
And one of the only things that keeps coming up that seems
like something Alex would be referring to in all of the coverage
is that he was at the protest with his black quadriplegic fiance.
Foster and his fiance had been together since they were 17.
And in 2011, she came down with a condition that nearly killed
her and required her arms and legs to be amputated.
Since then, he's taken care of her and to quote Foster's mother
quote, he loved that woman unconditionally.
I can find no reason to think that Foster was a creep.
Alex needs to justify this.
And until he does, I have to assume that Alex thinks there's
something intrinsically weird or wrong about this guy.
Miscegenation.
Sure.
Or the fact that she was quadriplegic.
Right, maybe.
I don't know.
Whatever it is, it's really fucked up.
Yeah, I don't understand.
Yeah.
It is.
It is never.
I wish we had never even speculated on whether or not there was a bottom
like from day one on our first episode, we should have been like
just so everybody knows no matter how long this podcast goes,
no matter what changes, Alex has no bottom.
Alex believes in nothing.
We didn't know that.
Nothing.
We didn't know that.
That's what I would do if I was a time traveler killing Hitler.
Nah, can't do nothing.
Go back in time.
Tell me to say something.
I mean, I think that would be bad for us because I think that we
would have stopped maybe, but also I think that our cynicism and
like disgust is earned, you know, like totally because there was
benefits of doubt that had been given along the way of like we
didn't know how like we knew he sucked.
We know he sucked as much as he does.
No, and I think that that's what's made this an experience and
a learning thing for me.
I'd known going in. Hey, everything is just going to constantly
get more disappointing.
Yeah, Alex is going to give up on every principle.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I don't I don't I don't know who would be as interesting for me.
Yeah, I can't imagine starting out a show being like we're going
to talk about a man who doesn't believe in anything, you know,
yeah, like that would be a real bummer.
I don't even know what what you could do.
Yeah, so there is likely going to be developments on this
story, so we'll see what comes of it.
But like if anyone who fired weapons will end up being charged.
Yeah, I don't know.
But for now, the available information does not in any way
support Alex's reporting on this story.
He's just providing coverage that justifies the killing of a
protester on the side that he disagrees with.
And then he's using the fact that they had a gun to prop up that
justification, which is probably the most cowardly and hypocritical
thing I can imagine him doing and he should be deeply ashamed of
himself.
He should be getting protested by all the gun weirdos that have
been allies for the entire time of his career.
Larry Pratt should be calling for him to be off air 100% all of
these fucking Ted Nugent should be showing up at Alex's house
telling me to suck his rifle you bet or whatever.
Like it's it's nonsensical.
You might as well say I'm advocating for gun control just for
the left. Alex is a gun grab.
He's a gun grab.
Yeah, he's a gun grab.
Alex is a Alex does not believe in the Second Amendment.
Certainly not whatsoever.
Nope.
This whole thing if you believe in Alex, you don't believe in the
Second Amendment.
Sure.
You believe in nothing nothing emptiness, but there's a way
that they like he Alex tries.
Like I said, he's trying to pretend that this guy was pointing
his gun at these these folks.
Sure.
This guy in the car in order to justify that it's like you know
you're gonna get shot right and and I mean like it's interesting
how that isn't applied to the people and St. Louis who were
pointing guns at protesters.
Surprise.
So if they had been murdered, I guess I guess I would say that
that's fine.
Yeah, because they're pointing.
They were pointing guns at people.
Wow.
I'm sure he wouldn't.
I'm sure he wouldn't either.
But that's the game that he tries to play.
And so he tries to pretend that there's proof of this.
Here's the Austin protester with his AK-47 who runs out.
And again, we've got paused still shots on info wars.com from
the video showing him win the rifle up to the window of the
car with people beating on it, screaming, going, he's white.
He's white trying to pull the white person out and it's white
people mainly saying and doing it.
You can go to info wars and they don't have any proof of the
sort that Alex is claiming.
It's odd.
There's an embedded tweet from an account with 47 followers
that purports to show Foster pointing his gun at this car.
But check mark.
No.
And also the image clearly doesn't show that it shows Foster
near the car with one arm back.
But the angle of his gun very clearly appears to be pointing
down.
It's difficult to explain this without the imagery.
But from the angle this picture was taken from, there's
literally no way that his gun could be pointed at anything
further up than the bottom of this car's tire.
And the reason for that is there are things behind him that
would have been blocked by the gun's barrel if it was any
further up.
Gotcha.
Like you can see the back of his arm.
You can see where one point of the gun is the back the
butt end of it.
Right.
But it's clearly pointing downwards.
Otherwise you would have seen like this guy who's standing
behind him blocked.
Yeah.
He would have been blocked by the color of his shirt and his
arm would not have been a thing that you couldn't see a
black gun barrel pointed through.
So it's just impossible.
This image itself is exculpatory.
It shows that it wasn't pointed at the car.
Those 47 followers are going to be pissed.
Yeah.
Also the image is not a protester surrounding an innocent
person's car.
It's the aftermath of this car driving directly into a gun.
Directly into a group of people.
Perhaps at that point the driver felt worried about people
surrounding his car.
But the car would not have been surrounded if he hadn't turned
and accelerated into a group of people.
This is a very disgraceful display.
Alex is putting on here.
He's defaming a guy who was killed.
And I think that there's a probably a pretty decent chance
he might be opening himself up to some kind of legal action.
Yeah.
No.
Fuck that.
I wouldn't be too surprised if he's you know in it because
that dude's a private citizen like it's not like it's not
like Garrett Foster is a public figure.
So fucked up.
Yeah.
I don't even know.
Like I guess if he had come to bat for the guy maybe I'd be
like well at least he believes in the second amendment or
something.
You know like if he came out and was like look this guy was a
protester and I think these people are disgusting and what
they're fighting for is bullshit.
But the man was carrying open.
It was registered.
He was doing everything right and he got murdered.
I guess I'd be like well there's something you know but now
it's just it's feel so empty when the second amendment is gone
for Alex and me it feels empty.
Yeah it's jarring.
Yeah.
Yeah and I think it's interesting to try and like fantasy
book like what would it be like if Alex had principles.
Yeah exactly.
And I think that we would have responded to a lot of things
over the course of this very differently.
Sure.
And I think that Alex would be in a lot of the positions that
he's in now.
Yeah.
So I mean I think I think that imagining that one singular
decision.
I guess.
It's tough because then we'd be like oh there'd be a domino
effect backwards that would affect everything.
Well not everything but certainly would I think there would
be a much different picture of Alex than than than what you
clearly have.
Yeah.
Yeah.
A soulless husk.
Yeah I think that if you I think that the you know obviously
we're never going to see eye to eye with Alex on anything
right.
Right.
Especially political positions and social issues and stuff
like that.
Don't ever really expect to you think that like some things
transcend and it just turns out they don't.
Yeah they don't.
Yeah.
He doesn't live in America.
He lives in fictional fascism land and so he jumps around
a little bit to other spots of unrest.
Sure.
He talks a little bit about Portland and how mayor Ted Wheeler
went out to the protest a little while back.
Yeah.
And Alex has an interesting perspective on that.
And all these armshare leftists like the mayor of Portland
went out to support them burning down the courthouse and then
they attack him because he's an old white dude.
They go look he's white.
They don't even know he's the mayor under Soros commanding
them.
They knew very well that he was the mayor.
They knew really well that he was the mayor.
Yeah.
Alex is trying to turn this into something where it's like
oh he's white.
Yeah.
It wasn't.
It was because he's Ted Wheeler.
Yeah.
The situation that Alex isn't taking into consideration is
the fact that you know that wasn't just about federal agents.
The situation and the protests in Portland have to do with
also the Portland Police Bureau which is under the aegis of
Ted Wheeler.
They're telling me that they don't appreciate the guy who
ordered the cops to mercilessly terrorize them for 45 days.
Yeah.
And then showed up and tried to make it into a thing about.
Yeah.
It's more of a PR kind of looking thing for him to show up at
the front of this thing with the federal folks there when
there had been weeks and weeks of gassing and beating people
who were protesting.
I think that the dynamic that is actually there is much
different than what Alex wants.
But he wants just this optical thing of white.
Sure.
But he's really he's the one who's running all of Antifa.
They don't even realize.
Fuck off.
This is childish.
Yeah.
I don't think he would have the same take if because here's
the same thing that would happen if Laurie Lightfoot
Chicago's miserable terrible mayor showed up at a protest here
and got tear gassed.
Everybody would be like we still fucking hate you.
You ordered the Chicago cops to do this.
Yeah.
So Alex gets into Colorado.
There was a shooting there recently and also he spends most
of his time talking about from last month.
There was another.
There was a different shooting and so it doesn't really talk
about the current day one but spends a bit of time on the
way because he already has details on that one.
Sure.
And we've got Colorado another Colorado.
Oh wait.
There's more.
Not just yesterday's Colorado.
We have another Colorado where they shoot the man.
Last time I heard he's in critical condition brain dead.
And it was a liberal white lawyer did it and he in his mug
shot.
He's so proud of what he did.
He shot a Nazi.
So this is Alex returning to a story we covered a while back.
This is about a man in Alamosa Colorado who was shot by a guy
to protest.
When we discussed the story my position was that the shooter
had a line and it did not appear that this driver was
endangering people or threatening to hurt anyone.
I don't know any information that subsequently come out that
would make me revise my position.
But I remember covering this and the video does not show
anything even close to justifiable.
That said I pulled this clip because I want to demonstrate
how Alex is a complete and casual liar in that clip.
He said the last he'd heard that this guy who got shot was in
critical condition and brain dead.
Weirdly if you look for an update on Danny Pruitt who was the
shooting victim you can find an Alamosa news article from June
26th which says that he was discharged from the hospital on
that Wednesday and his lawyer said quote he's very pleased to
have been released and very excited about getting to see his
daughter.
That's not to say that he's fully recovered by that point but
he's on a great path in that direction to the point where the
doctors could release him to recover at home.
I don't think I need to say this but if you're brain dead you
can't do that.
No he was really excited to see his granddaughter which you
could see on the EKG.
Jordan's brain death is irreversible.
No, no, no.
And it describes when all of your brain functions cease.
People in that state can be kept alive with artificial
processes but you will never recover and you will not be
able to go home and heal.
Come on.
Alex is making up details about this case because it makes
his political targets look worse.
He doesn't care at all about factual actual reporting.
He's just like trying but he's trying to make his enemies look
worse by making damage that they've done seem worse when
just shooting the guy is terrible.
Yeah.
I don't have any interest in supporting this guy for
shooting that guy.
I cannot believe that, I mean in a court I guess like when
you're determining sentencing you're like he shot him in the
leg so that's not attempted murder or something I guess as
opposed to as opposed to shooting him in the chest.
I don't know and the punishments are fine.
You don't need to add anything after shoots a guy for me to
be like fuck that guy.
Well in this case that's not even relevant because it's
shooting the head.
Yeah.
And to be perfectly honest like I mean you could look at it
from a like a you know consequential perspective but a
lot of it is a little random you know whatever happens after
you make the decision to shoot somebody.
Yeah.
Sometimes you can get lucky and they don't die.
Sometimes you get unlucky and they do you know or you know
whatever perspective you want to have on it.
Sure.
A lot of it's outside of your control and that's why you
shouldn't shoot people.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Thank you for coming to my Ted talk.
Yeah.
It's a good Ted talk.
I think it's a simple one but a really important one.
So Alex has a theory and that is that this guy in Colorado who
shot this this driver actually is Soros.
No.
Oh he did this because he thinks he's going to get away with
it.
Man who was driving.
By the way last time I heard that guy shot was on live
support.
We need to find that person even alive and you look at the guy
that he's been he's been given a mug shot for capital murder
and he looks like he's having orgasm because he believes he'll
be released from prison after the communist overthrow and he'll
be in a gulag over you and your family.
Seek again boy.
Ain't got to happen.
We'll be right back.
Stay with us.
So yeah I guess this guy figured he was going to just get out
once there's a communist uprising.
So this guy was like hey dude they stormed the Bastille.
Right.
They'll storm Colorado local prison.
Yeah.
The Marquis decide this situation.
Me and my three other buddies in the Bastille are going to get
out of here.
Yeah I don't know.
I don't know if that's this guy's plan.
I think he might have just been.
I think it's a bad plan.
Disturbed individual.
Maybe.
Anyway some people have brought up that there's this frontline
report about Alex.
Yes.
That's going to be coming out as we're recording it.
I believe it airs this evening.
Right.
He needs to preemptively deal with that.
Right.
Kind of.
But I think he's just more relishing the idea that people are
talking about it.
He's pretty excited about that.
Yeah.
I don't have any knowledge about this frontline report.
I have no idea.
I wouldn't know about it unless people had tweeted at me.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I would never have noticed.
I'll watch it.
And if it's interesting we might cover it for an episode.
But I don't.
I don't know.
It might just be stupid.
Are we going to do how not to cover Alex Jones for whatever
number we're on.
Maybe.
Or it could be good.
I have no idea.
Yeah.
I don't want to prejudge.
Of course not.
It could be a making Kelly situation or it could be a really
well done.
Totally.
A piece.
Time will tell.
Let's hope.
But Alex is excited about it.
Of course.
Which doesn't bode well in my mind.
Well they simultaneously have frontline coming out.
With a multi-series show of complete fiction.
Because I've talked to people that have been involved in the
production.
Unbelievable.
They're actually going to say I'm told that Russians fund
info wars.
I wonder how much they had to pay people to say that.
Look at this headline.
United States of Conspiracy examines how three million Alex
Jones.
Roger Stone.
And President Trump.
There you go.
Helped to lay the foundation for the conspiracy theories to
take center stage in America's national conversation.
Fair point.
And on the front page of their Twitter front page of
frontline.
It's me at the evil.
Austin rallies against compulsory mask.
How horrible.
We are.
Alex doesn't seem to be too worried or too threatened about
this.
So that makes me think that either he's really miscalculating
or it won't be anything that is too hard hitting.
That's kind of the feel because he freaked out before
Megan Kelly.
And that's because I think he was aware that she had
something on video that he was worried about being in the
actual piece.
I would imagine that whatever this is.
I honestly don't believe that he knows somebody who's
involved who said that they're going to say that Russia
paid him or whatever.
I don't believe that.
But whatever this is, it just doesn't seem like I think
that he's looking at this as a possible PR win as opposed to
something that threatens his credibility with his audience
in his mind and probably reasonably.
So it's not like they're going.
It's not like PBS is going to take away his audience.
His audience isn't going to watch PBS and be like, Oh,
no, it seems unlikely.
So the only thing that he can get out of this is people who
don't know anything about him who are like, how dare PBS be
mean to Alex Jones and Roger Stone and Donald Trump and
then maybe check him out.
Yeah.
And Alex can pretend it says whatever he wants.
Of course.
And I'm a victim.
Bat viruses.
Fund the Info War.
Toss it in there.
So Alex starts rambling about Alexander Solznitsyn of
Gulag Archipelago fame.
Sure.
And I don't know.
This is sad.
Well, the Washington Post says front page.
Anyone that doesn't submit to us will serve prison time.
Oh, with anti for jail guards.
You know, I think I'll just go ahead.
We love guarding jails.
And that's all I'm going to say.
I just, you know, I guess, oh, I said, I'd read this.
I've already lost my arms.
Anders Solznitsyn quote.
Let me just say this.
We're funded by you.
If you need water filtration, we've got the best price you're
going to find air filtration.
Best you're going to find.
Oh, boy.
Panic.
Cell.
Yeah.
I'm going to, I'm going to ramble about Antifa jailguards
at Gulags.
I remind myself of Solznitsyn.
I don't know where that quote is.
I've misplaced my Solznitsyn quote.
Guys, we got water filtration.
Fuck.
I didn't get lunch today.
Antifa guard.
What are you?
I'm ideologically opposed to you being in here in the first
place.
Get out of here, buddy.
Come on, man.
Yeah, I don't know.
Anyway, Alex, like I told you at the beginning of this episode,
about three quarters of the way into this, I lost my will to
live.
And that's largely because Alex is rationalizing the
killing of a protester based on the fact that he had a gun
that Alex is claiming he was pointing at people, but the
photograph that he provides as evidence of this doesn't show
that, which really, really hurts his Second Amendment
positions.
And then he has a guest.
But I was just returning from New York where another great
family spent a fortune to get me and the good congressman,
Clay Higgins, to a pro law enforcement rally, a pro law and
order rally.
The biggest one, it was purported to be the biggest pro law
enforcement law and order rally in the history of America.
They were expecting over 10,000 people because Uncle Ted was
going to bring my six-string weapon of mass construction and
perform a fire-breathing banner for the troops and boost their
morale at a time where the Marxist Democrat Antifa MS-13
Black Lives Matter monsters have destroyed the morale of the
law enforcement sheepdog heroes across this country.
So Ted Nugent's on to complain about losing a gig.
Oh, man.
That's what's going on.
You know what's terrible?
What's that?
A few days ago, I watched an interview that he did.
I was trying to think of another reverse situation.
I watched an interview he did with Eric bowling.
Oh, wow.
Worlds collide.
I will tell you something right now.
Word for word.
He said that on one America.
Oh, yeah.
Word for word.
That's practice.
That's that's a Black Lives Matter MS-13.
Yeah.
Anybody not white.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So he lost a gig at a pro cop rally.
It was a rally that was in Long Island and it's a scratch
fever.
Come on.
Come on.
That's not bad.
That's not bad.
I'll take five points.
So that rally still went on just as planned.
But people were mad about Ted Nugent being booked to appear.
So they complained and his invitation was no longer there.
Yeah.
The organizers released a statement saying, quote, the
purpose of this demonstration is to bring people together in
support of the men and women of law enforcement.
While we wholeheartedly appreciate anyone who supports the men
and women in blue, including Mr. Nugent, the controversy
over his appearance is contrary to the objectives of this
demonstration.
Who knows exactly what it was about Ted Nugent that made him
unpalatable for people?
Honestly, could have been any number of things.
Could have been.
From the accusations of him assaulting minors to his songs
about how he likes to assault minors.
There are those.
Hard to say.
Yeah.
But since Ted is on our radar again, now's a great time to
learn about more about why Ted Nugent's a complete pile of
shit.
We've discussed a lot of his creepy, very clear indications
that he's a predator.
Like his song titled, I'm a Predator.
That one is a little bit dammit.
Yeah.
That was a little dammit.
Let's look at some of his thoughts now, Jordan.
You were in court and they were like, how do you enter your
play?
Hold on.
Before you respond with guilty or not guilty, we're going to play
this song.
I'm a predator and you think about what you're going to say.
That's like imagining the defense lawyer for sea murder.
He was on trial for homicide.
Yeah.
What's your client's name?
Okay.
I'd like to point you to the sea murder there.
You take the sea on my name and you're left with a homicide.
Right.
It's going to be an uphill battle.
All right.
So I'm going to struggle with this.
Mr. Nugent, did you write the song jail date?
Play the fifth.
So I'd like to talk to you now, Jordan, about Ted Nugent's
thoughts about apartheid.
Sure.
Great.
I'm sure they're fantastic.
What is he?
Elon Musk.
Now Christ interesting article that interviewed Ted Nugent
back in 1990 from the Detroit free press and man, this stuff
has not aged well.
Oh boy.
As it happens back in 1990, Ted Nugent had a ranch in South
Africa that he used for bow hunting.
Really?
Yep.
What?
Yep.
He's that guy?
Oh yeah.
Jesus Christ.
Did he write a song called I love Rhodesia too?
Might as well.
Christ.
When asked about his ranch and apartheid, Ted said, quote,
my being there isn't going to affect the political structure.
Besides apartheid isn't that cut and dry.
All men are not created equal.
Oh boy.
The preponderance of South Africa is a different breed of
man.
Whoa.
Okay.
So let me let me let me.
Actually, you know what?
Let's point this.
Let's get this down to the very brass tax stand.
All right.
Apartheid is incredibly cut and dry.
In fact, you could say that this is a situation that is a black
and white issue.
You're either good or bad on a part time.
I mean zero middle ground.
I mean he said literally right after that.
All men are not created.
Exactly.
So it's not.
It's not.
There's no murky understanding.
He literally understands.
I thought that that truth was self-evident.
Well, hold on now.
One second.
Not in South Africa.
So he says the preponderance of South Africa is a different breed
of man.
And then he follows that up by saying quote.
I mean that with no disrespect.
God damn it.
Somebody somebody god damn it.
Nugent went on to say quote.
They are still people of the earth, but they're different.
They put on.
They put bones in their noses.
They still walk around naked.
They wipe their butts with their hands.
And when I kill an antelope for them, their preference is the
gut pile.
That's what they fucking want to eat.
The intestines.
These are different people.
You give them toothpaste.
They fucking eat it.
I hope they don't become civilized.
You know, yeah, you know.
The article also mentions that his upcoming tour of Japan is
called the quote.
Jap Wack tour, which Ted explains thusly.
Oh, no quote.
I mean no disrespect.
Okay.
Now stop right there.
Here's how you end that.
He says that.
He says that a bit.
The end.
Yeah.
I mean no disrespect and no follow-up.
No follow-up.
Whenever I say N.
Oh, no.
In the next sentence.
No.
It's a hard and well boy hard and well boy quote.
I mean no disrespect.
I'm sure the Japanese are wonderful folks and if I'm with a
bunch of guys, we may talk about babes in a certain way.
I use the word and a lot because I hang around a lot of ends
and they use the word and and I try to use words that communicate.
I'm a fun guy.
Not a sexist or racist.
I'm a sexist.
I'm a sexist.
I'm a sexist.
I'm a sexist.
I'm a fun guy.
Not a sexist or racist.
Man everybody who's bitchin about cancel culture now right needs
to go back in time and see what people got away with which is
the same shit they're getting away with now.
Yeah.
And I mean every time that I said and in the article it's
straight up saying straight hard ours.
Yeah.
Weirdly later in the article Ted explains that whack is
specifically a word that he uses to describe killing animals
and that his quote hunting buddies are known as Whackers.
Nugent of course is the whack master.
Seems like Jap whack becomes a really weird name for a tour
given that context.
I mean no disrespect.
Also for all of his false and faux performative patriotism this
passage about Nugent dodging the draft seems pretty ironic quote
Nugent wanted no part of Vietnam.
He claims that 30 days before his draft board physical he stopped
all forms of personal hygiene.
The last 10 days he ingested nothing but Vienna sausages and
Pepsi and a week before his physical he stopped using the
bathroom all together virtually living inside his pants caked
with his own excrement stained by his urine.
That's spectacle one Nugent to deferment he says though the
free press was unable to verify his draft status.
I think he's full of shit.
But also also pun and absolutely.
I'm sure.
But also that's a pretty novel way to dodge the draft.
I think it's awful to be totally clear.
I think it's okay to not want to go to war and to not want to be
part of the draft.
If they brought back the draft at any point in my life I would
not submit myself to it but I also wouldn't try to subvert the
process by shooting my pants a bunch.
They're countless conscientious objectors who for ethical or
religious reasons refuse to participate in any kind of war
and sometimes they pay a penalty for it but they accept that as
part of their political statement.
What Nugent did was be a cowardly dick and the idea that you
would look back on this and brag about it as an adult is pretty
sad.
Don't forget he is a cowardly dick covered in his own shit.
That's true.
So he's not he's not going up the ladder.
Yeah and into a part.
Okay.
Okay.
All right.
So if I understand this correctly a sex predator racist
misogynistic on top of being you know even even worse who owns
property in South Africa gets to become famous rich and spend
the rest of his life in the public eye because he wrote a
because he's a one hit wonder that seems unfair.
I think fastball should be still around if we're measuring by
this shit.
Yeah and I think you've kind of touched on my main point and
that Ted Nugent is a racist predatory monster who is the
brain of a weapons obsessed child and hasn't even ever had an
album or single reach the top 10 on the charts and has never
had a number one single and his highest peaking album was
Scream Dream which reached number 13 40 years ago.
He's a worthless sack of shit who's not even relevant in his
primary occupation which is music.
So yeah it makes sense that people wouldn't want him booked at
an event regardless of the events character.
He makes your event look bad because if he's there it implies
that you paid him to be there and if you paid him to be there
you're an asshole whiny as Ted coming on info wars to complain
about losing a gig because of his long and very overt past of
being a piece of shit so toxic that even a pro cop rally has
some reservations about being associated with him.
Yeah what a bunch of babies all a tab all Ted's are bad Ted
Wheeler Ted Wheeler Ted Nugent.
Three three for three on Ted.
I'm sure there's some good Ted's out there.
What about the movie Ted movie Ted not good.
I mean better off Ted was pretty good.
That was pretty clever to come.
Yeah.
Drop dead Ted.
That is the I don't think that's the one was Martin Shorten
dropped at Ted.
No that was Clifford.
Oh gotcha.
So it wasn't that the pro cop rally the rejected Ted per se
although they and the organizers were seemed all right with it
once he wasn't coming.
Yeah.
The issue came down to something else and that is the Ted
Nugent got threatened by Andrew Cuomo.
And I literally was threatened by Mary by Governor Cuomo
and his handpicked Marxist Health Department Nazis that if I
set foot in New York to play the national anthem and thank
the law enforcement heroes if I dare enter his communist New
York area I would be put under house arrest and quarantine for
14 days thereby destroying the only chance to have a morale
boost by the heroes of the NYPD and boy are they pissed.
I'm pretty sure that Andrew Cuomo didn't personally threaten
Ted Nugent.
In this article in the Long Island Press they say that
Nassau County executive one of them said quote the reason for
his absence Ted is that because he was quote reminded of New
York state's quarantine orders and Nassau County's protest
protocols travelers to New York from over 30 states with
significant community coronavirus spread are required to
quarantine for 14 days per Governor Cuomo's executive order.
Yeah.
I'm not specific to him.
It's he's from Texas.
This is a convenient way for everyone involved to save face.
The quarantine rules exist and Nugent is coming from Texas
which isn't at risk state currently so the state of New
York covers their base.
The city council in Long Island obviously didn't want Ted
coming so they solve that problem.
The rally organizers realized that they were going to look
real bad if they have Ted at the rally so that solves that
problem for them.
Ted probably would have liked to go but this is just as good
he gets to play the victim and yell about Cuomo trying to
personally bar him from the state.
Totally.
Everybody gets what they need out of this situation and no
issues are really resolved when there is a big issue that
needs to be addressed here and that is that Ted Nugent has
no place in adult society if he wants to live out his days
being a racist creep shooting arrows at animals privately.
I can't stop him from that but there's no reason that anyone
should ever accept the notion that he's a voice worth
having in the public sphere.
His music career is embarrassing compared to his
contemporaries and his existence as a political figure is
basically just him yelling that Obama needs to suck his
rifle.
At this point people need to treat him like who he is.
A loser info wars guest.
If some event is booking him it's not because he's a draw or
because he's good at guitar it's a political statement.
They're supporting his brand of racist extremist politics so
quite honestly anytime Nugent has a show anywhere it should
get protested.
He shouldn't be welcome as a public figure full stop.
Like he has worn out his welcome long ago.
Agreed.
And he should be treated as such.
Like anytime someone has him on it's not because
Wango tango rocks.
No.
Like I mean like sure if he's doing a concert or something
maybe that's not a political statement for like the
some theater to book him on his tour or whatever then
you know whatever it is what it is.
But for this rally to have him come do the national anthem
that's different.
I think I completely disagree with you on that.
I might also.
Yeah I mean if it was a comic and they were a racist piece of
shit predator and they got booked at a club I'd be like
you're making a political statement which is that it's
okay to be a comic and be a racist.
You may be right.
You may be right.
Yeah I hadn't unpacked that.
Fuck you.
Yeah that might be true.
I just hadn't really you know I guess I hadn't given a whole
story to the the music the music business.
Yeah that's fair how that works.
But yeah yeah maybe maybe it is more of a every everything
Ted Nugent does.
He should just be yelled into bow hunting privately for the
rest of his life.
He should be called a whiny loser every time he walks out
his door.
Yeah everybody should remind him of him banning guns at his
own concert.
It's just like yeah you're a whiny loser who doesn't believe
in your own bullshit.
Yeah shut the fuck up and go away.
Yeah yeah and and stop it with this bullshit to where he's
trying.
You could hear it in that last clip and in this next clip it
gets even worse where it's just like the real victims are
great who don't get to hear me play the national anthem.
Off my buddy flew me back home and I got out my bow and arrow
and my fishing rod and I spent a wonderful couple days with
my dogs on my my miraculous paradise here in Texas.
So they didn't hurt Ted Nugent at all.
I mean are you kidding me.
What can they possibly do to me and I'll tell you what nothing
but you know what they hurt.
They hurt the spirit and the morale of the New York Police
Department heroes and their families.
Well that's the next thing is their open season.
The left wants to brutalize the police not to get rid of them
but to take them over.
Oh no what will the police morale be without Ted Nugent
playing.
I think the phrase I'm looking for is delusions of grandeur.
I think that's the one I'm looking for.
I think it's partially that and I think it's partially also
just like this is a way I can acceptably talk about this
and not sound whiny what I need.
I lost a gig like a grand.
Okay.
Yeah.
You know who's who's the victim here.
I didn't get a check and people didn't get to enjoy my sweet
licks.
You know who's the real victim here at the end of the day
once again South Africans.
What the fuck is he doing.
I don't know if he still has that ranch that article was from
1990 but I mean fuck him.
Yeah.
I would say I would say that the fact that I can't find any
articles that are like Ted Nugent profusely apologizes for
equivocating and supporting apartheid saying it's not a
cut and dry issue.
That leads me to believe that he maybe didn't have a personal
evolution on the subject.
Very much doubt it.
Not good.
So here he Ted Nugent is expressing his belief that a bunch
of different groups they're all really just the same thing.
By the way there's no difference between Democrats, Antifa,
MS 13, the Jihadists and the Black Lives Matter.
They're all they're dedicated to destroy the very
Well that's my next question for you.
We only got you one more segment here and I appreciate the
time on this Sunday.
They're all the same man.
All these groups are the same.
Cool.
Very dumb.
Very dumb.
Very stupid child.
What a fucking moron.
Yeah.
It should not be taken seriously in any capacity.
Get him out of here.
So he starts talking about this new initiative that he has
called hunt the vote Earth Defense Force.
No.
That'd be great.
Yeah.
Hunt the vote.
Hunt the vote.
Which sounds fucking scary.
Well in the 90s we had rock the vote and now here we are.
It sounds like he's going to go to inner city precincts and
like voting centers with a bow.
It sounds like when you say hunt the vote.
No.
It doesn't sound like the same as rock.
So what he's going to do is calmly track individual voters
and get them in his sights and then convince them to vote for
Trump.
Well I mean using rhetoric that he's very good.
The issue that I find is like hunt the vote is you know the
object of hunt is the thing that is killed and is attacked.
Yes.
Rock of the vote when you rock something you're making it
better and you're rocking the venue.
You're having a great time.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So when you say rock the vote it's kind of like oh we're
making.
We're having a good time.
Yeah.
We're going to get mud honey to play.
Everybody's going to have fun.
Hunt the vote.
Fucked up.
I'm going to fucked up Brandon.
Here's what I'm going to call it the most dangerous vote.
I think this is very dumb.
I think it's also I went and I checked out their website and
does not seem to be working.
How's it going?
They want people to pledge to vote for sure.
And what it is is obviously a data gathering operation
because it's just like okay we want people to put in their
personal information and then pledge to vote obviously so you
can contact them with a mailing list or something right and
their their goal is five hundred thousand.
It's like I don't know if you're going to swing the election
with that.
You're going to sell a lot of email addresses with that.
They were at like 10 percent or something when I checked.
I don't know how long it's been but yeah it doesn't seem to
be getting the traction that they're looking for.
Not good.
But so Ted tries to promote this and these people need to
just stop referring to history.
It's not good.
It sounds ridiculously simple because it is hunt the vote.
Or just register and get to the front lines.
This is the Alamo.
We need to shoot Santa Ana's men.
Oh my God.
The vote.
Or absolutely.
We've got to go to break.
We'll do one more segment again.
Please come back for longer in the week because things are so
hot.
You lost the Alamo.
The Alamo was a failure.
So now they're being hunted by the Mexican army in this
situation.
I don't know.
Okay.
But I mean you got to stop being like this is the Alamo
because you're just saying we're going to lose.
Yes.
And one of the main reasons we're going to lose is that we
shouldn't have been there in the first place.
We have invaded not our territory.
Poorly managed this situation.
Put absolute idiots in charge.
Colonel Travis is a drunk.
And now it's time to really step up.
This is a good metaphor for us.
Oh boy.
Yeah.
I feel like they could do better.
Maybe they can't actually.
It's more apt than you would expect.
Yeah.
So Ted gets to talking about the state of the world and the
things that are happening around the country.
Sure.
And I just felt like hey Ted your racism might be shown a
little bit here.
But I was there in 67 when all my buddies.
He's talking about in Detroit.
Yeah.
Black musician friends.
We always jam together and collaborate.
We always hung out together.
And I had friends of every imaginable ethnicity and color
and creed and walk of life.
And then in 67.
Oh you have black friends.
They burnt down the city.
The writers went berserk and burnt down their own city.
This beautiful architecture.
So I have a good perspective of the goodwill and the positive
brotherhood that existed amongst all of us in Detroit.
And then a friend's segment went nuts much like precursors to
Antifa then I was in Los Angeles in 92 when the Rodney
King bird came in and once again the idiots committed
cultural suicide and destroyed their own neighborhoods and
lives and viciously attacked and murdered people.
So what I'm seeing today it breaks my heart to admit but
it's it's bigger and worse and uglier and more evil.
That just is is absurd.
I mean like what you have there is a guy who's very committed
to not recognizing what came right before those things.
No no no.
Not interested.
Not interested in discussing.
I was there in 67 and randomly.
What happened for no reason at all.
What happened in the early 60s.
What happened in Detroit that led up to that.
That right.
What happened in the lead up to the LA riots.
I don't know what happened in the lead up to the situation
that we're in now.
What is the larger conversation that these flash points
exist within just can't be interested in any of that at
all.
Or are you just wanting to look at this from an optics
perspective and go black people burn their own things.
Yeah.
Honestly no what he's what that what he's saying is like every
now and again black people act crazy.
Yeah.
And I don't know why.
No that is that is the presentation that he's putting
forth and it's like yeah.
Wow.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So Ted Nugent coming on if he had any principles and believed
in anything that he purports to believe in he should be
dressing down Alex about his argument earlier in the show
about a guy having a gun at a protest somehow making it
like oh well you get shot.
Yeah.
But it turns out Ted Nugent also seems to think that if
you have a weapon you're no longer a protester.
They call them peaceful protesters.
Peaceful protesters don't destroy buildings.
They don't have Molotov cocktails.
They don't kill retired cops and they don't wear helmets
and have weapons on them.
That's not a peaceful protest.
Well I mean the retired cop in St. Louis we have a
conversation about how that was a murder and that wasn't
necessarily protesters.
There's a larger situation going on there but leaving that
aside when he says there if you have weapons you're not a
peaceful protester that news about every Second Amendment
protest that has ever happened.
Yeah.
Is he saying that it is okay for us to en masse kill them
because they are walking around with guns or that it's fine
if we did.
No.
I mean he's articulating a point very poorly because he
doesn't recognize what the implications of his statements
are.
He doesn't recognize that condemning these protesters
for having weapons or being armed opens up the
criticism to everything that he supports.
Yeah.
No.
He just doesn't recognize it because it doesn't matter to
him.
He doesn't care.
This isn't a principle to him.
It is a weapon that he can use against the people he doesn't
like.
Yep.
That is all like it's I mean he doesn't care about the
Second Amendment.
No it's disgusting.
Like that is that is that God if we lived in a reasonable
world every time he went on a show they would just play that
clip and be like so you don't believe in the Second
Amendment at all and he'd be like and then they'd kick him
off.
That's it.
If you believe in nothing.
Yeah.
If your threshold for like what is or is not a peaceful
protester is I mean like we could take the damaging property
stuff and discuss whether or not that's violence.
I don't want to have that conversation with Ted Nugent.
Nope.
But it is a conversation that bad paid conversation.
What's a conversation you could have where people could have
differences of opinion.
Sure.
I would not say the damage to property is inherently violence
but we that is it may leaving that aside.
His threshold seems to be that if you have a weapon you're not
a peaceful protester and I would I would challenge him on
that.
I would challenge him on that.
I would like to see you debate him and again is now nine
days.
God damn it Rand Paul Rand Paul has refused to debate.
You know what now I want to hear what Rand Paul thinks about
Rand Paul going to defend the Second Amendment or is he going
to go along like a coward with Alex Jones and noted predator
racist monster Ted Nugent or noted predator racist monster
Alex Jones as well.
I don't know.
I don't know.
We'll see Rand Paul.
We will see if you get the guts coward coward.
So anyway now that Ted Nugent has fully embarrassed himself
and indicated that he is also a gun grabber we he leaves
and that's where I kind of was broken in terms of my interest
in this.
Like I don't know.
You lose a little steam whenever one of these like seemingly
like the pillars.
Yeah.
The keystone seemed to fall.
You know like guns.
Yeah.
Some people shouldn't have them.
Yeah.
No.
It's it's totally I feel like a parent like I'm not mad at
you disappointed.
Yeah.
You have failed on a level that I cannot even comprehend
and you didn't need to.
You had no reason to.
You didn't need to.
You could have just not talked about it.
Sure.
You could not talk about it or you could talk about it in a more
robust way.
You could talk about it with more a little bit more nuance where
you can protect your gun position while at the same time
condemning protests.
If you so need to.
Right.
You don't need to come at this if you're Alex from a
position of this guy had a gun and that justifies him being
shot.
Yeah.
You don't need to.
The principle is so gun absolutist the way Alex is it seems
dumb.
Yeah.
It seems that it it it denotes to me a lack of
solidity.
That's not the right word.
Solidarity.
No.
Well certainly.
But just foundation.
Yeah.
That's the thing I'm trying to evoke.
Yeah.
There's a lack of anything that's grounding these arguments that
he has.
They're all just branches with no trunk.
Yeah.
It's it's it's a bummer.
It's bummer.
In a certain sense I kind of so here my my armchair bullshit on
this is part of me thinks that because they live through
Obama and they're so racist and they weren't allowed to just
say we hate him because he's black and we don't like that.
They made every argument in bad faith.
Every argument they made was in bad faith.
So they only know how to make bad faith arguments at this
point.
You know they don't have anything that they believe in
because what they believed in during Obama's years was just
we don't like him because he's black and you're not
allowing us to say that.
So we have to make up some bullshit about he's grabbing
guns.
That's a bad faith argument.
And so now when we're in this situation I don't even know
if he probably doesn't believe that if you were to maybe he
does maybe he doesn't but if you were to sit him down and
just really get to the point in private it's like you know
you're making a bad faith argument to these people in
order to justify the violence that you want.
Yeah.
You know.
Yeah.
I can see where you're coming from but I disagree with you.
Yeah.
I would say that maybe people got accustomed to this kind of
behavior throughout Obama's years.
But the stuff you're talking about those same sorts of
arguments predate Obama.
Yeah.
So it's not like they're right.
It's not like they had some kind of vested interest in
masking their racism behind gun grabbing arguments.
Well I mean the 90s you can just say that shit.
Yeah.
I mean the idea of Clinton coming for guns or like Alex
making terror storm documentaries in the Bush years.
Right.
Like those things pre existed right now.
Fascists always make bad faith arguments.
If you want if you want to like dig incredibly deep into the
fertile soil of the anti communists.
Sure.
The terrifying crossroads of anti communism anti
multiculturalism pro corporate interests that intersect there.
I think you could probably make a certain case that a lot of
these arguments that do go back to older times.
Sure.
They do have a racist element to 100 percent.
But the way that you're describing it with like trying to
make up for arguments that they had that were bad faith about
Obama.
I don't think that works.
I mean I more like they just don't even know how to have a
an honest discussion like they genuinely just can't do it.
They just filtered through this prism of bullshit.
You know possibly.
I would say that there's also a possibility that they don't see
a point in having a real you're probably 100 percent.
You know like yeah there is a utility and clearly it works.
Yeah.
Do bullshit.
Yeah.
You're so maybe they just don't see the like a why.
Why have a foundation anymore.
It doesn't matter.
No.
On a fundamental level you are getting somewhere closer to the
truth than I can imagine.
Maybe.
But my point isn't to say that I'm right.
I'm saying that like there are other options.
No.
Totally.
What you're saying could be right or it could be an entirely
like like it's a red herring.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You you your theory that they can't have a conversation about
the like anything real possible.
Also could be possible that there could like completely aware of
how trivial and bullshit.
Yeah.
And there's like why try.
Yeah.
Well I don't know.
I don't know what the reality.
Why try.
You know trying really makes it tough on you.
Yeah.
And the thing that makes it also really difficult is the like we
just have these public facing pieces of information to go from
and quite frankly this show would look exactly the same if Alex
was incapable of doing a good job or knew that it's expedient
and easier for him to do a bad job.
Yeah.
It would look exactly the same.
So I have no fucking idea.
Yeah.
That's fair.
I know that Alex is stupid but I know that he's also not as
stupid as like like the Carpe don't who knows if he's even
what I mean is he's not he's not as stupid as like the caricature
that you could have of him based on how stupid he sure.
Sure.
So anyway Ted Nugent's appearance appearance on the show took
away my will to live and we just have a few clips left of the
rest of the show.
Alex is excited because Joe Rogan has fully announced now that
he's moving to Texas.
He's free.
And unfortunately Alex also has to recognize that like yeah
Rogan has come out and said that stuff that I said about him
wasn't true.
Now it is true that I told you he was going to move to Texas
and he is.
He is.
But I did make up some stuff.
Really.
He admitted it.
I made up.
What a son of a.
But I don't know Spotify went completely crazy when Joe told
me I could say all that stuff that I kind of elaborated on it
and kind of.
Elaborated.
Added some hyperbole probably.
Because you know what Joe said.
Yes.
While he's sharing up the YouTube, sharing up the sensors.
The stuff he told me but I'm not going to pontificate on that
right now.
Probably smart because you just said you lied.
Yeah.
That's a good idea.
I.
He said he probably lied.
I probably.
I probably.
I probably made up some stuff.
All right.
Because Joe Rogan is one of the only things that makes me
relevant to people who aren't completely nuts.
And I really want to play up my connection to him.
He's basically my best friend.
I'm going to be honest with you when people talk.
I only hear what I want to hear.
So it's really hard for me to relay information from other
conversations to you because it's all made up in my head.
Yeah.
It's very weird, very weird.
So Alex is selling a new product that isn't actually a new
product, but he's trying to pretend it's a new product.
You think he's trying to clear out the warehouse separately.
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location and steal your data.
Stop Bill Clinton.
What Hillary Clinton and their global initiative with the NIH
and the UN WHO running the contact tracers or beta testing
in blue cities that are going to come with regulations as early
as next year.
They already got your data.
The apps are already on your phone.
Whether you take them off or not, Google and Apple admit
doing it together four months ago.
Everything is tracked.
And so when you put your phone in this, it's a way to control
it.
It's a way to not let it run your life.
It's a way to not let it dominate you.
And it slips right in your pocket.
It's a thin Faraday cage.
They have units out there that are similar to this one or the
same unit yourself for $35 online.
Amazon sells them for like $22.
And you know, they always try to have the lowest price.
1995.
These cost us almost $12 a piece.
So the eight bucks comes into funder operation.
But I want you to get these and think about how evil these
cell phones are.
They're so evil.
These cell phones.
This is not a new product for Alex, but he's acting like it is.
He had this was like a junior varsity product that he'd have
like Owen sell.
Sure.
Is the block it pocket that he had for like a while, but he
wouldn't dignify it with like pushing on his show.
Unless it was like a really heavy 5G period.
Like, you know, we're really going hard.
Right.
Right.
Or like me.
I don't know.
I would imagine that like when Snowden went on Rogan, maybe
Alex tried to sell some.
All day.
Yeah, but it's not.
I hear this and I'm like, wow, you're really trying to move
those.
Yeah.
Okay.
Gotta get rid of them.
Yeah.
Gotta get rid of them.
That seems very sad to me.
Yeah, not good.
No.
Alex wouldn't even waste his time trying to sell it in the
past.
Exactly.
When it was like 70 16.
No.
He's like, yeah, the kids love their cell phones, but I do
is I have a Faraday cage man.
Yeah.
You got a product now.
Alex relegated to nobody listening gets to sell it.
That's bad.
Yeah.
So now Alex is doing it himself, which whatever.
So one thing I think is really interesting is that Alex
really wants to insinuate himself with the story about
Sinclair and Eric Bowling.
Right.
He wants everyone to know that like, Hey, maybe I'm the
source on this story.
Sure.
Maybe.
Sure.
Sinclair, bigger than Fox News, thousands of stations
across the country says it will postpone and rework
segment featuring conspiracy theory about Fauci with the
Eric Bowling show.
I personally sent bowling articles about this in the last
few months.
He knew all about it already.
And what did he cover?
NIH.gov NIH lifts funding pause on gain of function
research with coronaviruses.
Dr. Fauci back controversial Wuhan lab with U.S.
dollars for risky coronavirus research at Wuhan lab.
Newsweek.
Newsweek.
Look right there.
That's Newsweek.
New scientists lab main coronavirus triggers debate.
Obama and Fauci transfer weaponized coronavirus
Chimera from bats to China to 2015.
This is the reality.
That might have been editorializing there.
But what you see is the way that he covers news.
He just reads headlines and then starts rambling about stuff
that isn't in those articles course that you might assume
could be in the article based on the headline or the warped
version of the headline that Alex is editorializing.
No.
He essentially plays whose line is it anyway every day.
Somewhat.
Yeah.
But with like really fucked up topics.
Yeah.
I am.
Anti screams about murder a lot.
Yeah.
No.
That was a that.
Ryan Stiles was big on murder for a while there.
Colin mockery was the one who would defame people.
That's why it's on the air.
That would do it.
I look.
I know it happens all the time.
But whenever he screams it like that's Newsweek as a way of
legitimizing the paper.
Yeah.
Like everybody's like see even Newsweek is saying it is him
saying that's a reliable news source.
Yeah.
And all it really does is highlight how unreliable he is.
Exactly.
Yeah.
And this isn't my dumb ass.
Exactly.
Exactly.
100 percent.
I know you know that I make shit up.
Listen.
But Newsweek has editors.
So I'm not linking to a video of this show.
I'm linking to a real paper.
Now if they print anything I don't like their fake news
bullshit controlled by the globalists.
Yeah.
Obviously they're still more trustworthy than me.
Undoubtedly.
Yeah.
So we have one last clip here and it's Alex talking about how he
thinks that deaths are going to go up soon.
Wow.
And I think he's trying to get ahead of this.
Right.
Because that might be something that he's going to have to
spin.
Yeah.
And this is a weak effort.
The cases are skyrocketing.
The deaths are going way down.
I predict they'll go spiking again when the number is coming at
the end of the month because July is when the new doctors and
nurses come in for their residencies and they call it.
Really.
July effect.
I get into real statistics.
Real information.
Real research.
The July effect is a real thing that people discuss.
Sure.
But there isn't really a consensus on whether or not it is
actually a real thing.
I'll read to you here from a 2017 article in the Canadian
Association of Medicines Journal.
Quote.
A 2016 analysis in the Journal of Patient Safety pooled data
collected between 2011 and 2015 from nearly 120 academic
medical centers and more than 333 affiliated hospitals from all
geographic regions in the United States.
It concluded that there was no evidence to support the July
effect on survival outcomes at US academic medical centers.
Studies focused on specific specialties and patient
populations have indicated mixed results.
Despite this lack of strong supporting evidence, a national
survey of US academic leaders and internal medicine published in
2016 in the American Journal of Medicine revealed that most
internal medicine residency program leaders believe in the
potential for a July effect.
A 2013 article in the Harvard Medical School review says,
quote, a new study published October 23rd in circulation by
researchers at Harvard Medical School, Stanford University
Hospitals, University of Southern California and the
Rand Corporation has found that while the so-called July
effect is negligible in most cases, it is a serious concern
for high risk patients.
That isn't too surprising, given that experienced doctors
have more experience in high intensity, dangerous situations,
but also the discrepancy isn't something that should make
people avoid getting health care in July.
This is an issue that only relates to teaching hospitals
where there are residents, so that's one factor.
Other studies have shown that, quote, patients at teaching
hospitals have a lower risk of dying than at non-teaching
hospitals, but in July, the risk at teaching hospitals rose
to the same level that patients at non-teaching hospitals
faced.
So it comes up to about normal.
Something tells me that Alex doesn't get into the real
research about this.
Come on.
Instead, maybe like he saw a meme about it and then wrote a
story in his head about cartoonish versions of med students
killing people at hospitals every summer.
Yeah, that sounds right.
Real research.
Yeah, like a resident is walking in acting all wacky,
you know, like forgetting all kinds of stuff in the surgery.
Oh, no.
I was supposed to use a scalpel.
I accidentally hit this person with an oversized hammer.
Oh, no!
I was going to use this, but then, you know, it was a rose
and it squirted on his face.
It was terrible.
Yeah, it's an interesting thing to look at.
I mean, because you would expect that for people who are
in really serious conditions that maybe are more difficult to
diagnose or difficult to handle, someone who is not as
experienced could, even with supervision, could be less
capable of taking care of that situation.
Sure.
You could imagine that being the case.
It's possible.
From the number of the things that I was reading, the issue
seems to be where there can be a problem.
It's administrative.
It's not a factor of whether or not residents can handle
medical situations.
Sure.
It's more a circumstance of, like, is this hospital
supervising people appropriately?
Right.
And so, you know, it's not a magical thing where there's,
like, tons more deaths in July.
Sure, sure, sure.
Alex is just trying to find a way to preemptively explain
away why, uh-oh, we might see some spiking deaths soon.
Yeah, now it's obviously the July effect.
It's not because as we see cases rise and we know that it's
kind of a two-week issue kind of deal.
The lagging indicator.
Then that would suggest that after we see all these cases
rise in a short period of time, we will then see deaths
rise appropriately.
I predict that if that is the way things go and we see
deaths start to rise, this will be Alex's spin.
It's a July effect.
Which is going to be interesting come August, but
we'll see what happens.
Brutal.
Anyway, Alex's return to studio was worse than Saturday.
It was not a Saturday.
Saturday was boring.
I long for this Saturday.
Saturday was unimpactful and uninspired.
Didn't have Ted Nuget.
That's a that's a win.
And the loss of Alex's Second Amendment beliefs.
Yeah, that's also kind of poof.
I know it shouldn't be, but it really does kind of feel
like that's a blow.
I don't know why.
I don't know why.
Well, because I think it's one of the last things that
isn't racism with him or like white identity.
Yeah, that's true.
It's one of the last pillars that is kind of, you know,
arguably like I don't believe in gun absolutism in the same
way that he does, but I definitely agree with people's
right to protect themselves and be armed.
Yeah, I mean, I think that there is a valuable point to be
made in defending the Second Amendment to what extent
that's where the debate is.
Sure.
But I think that it's one of the beliefs that Alex has that's
so central to himself that you could look at as a political
belief that you could have a conversation about all like
what's left is white identity and lies and both of those
things I think have no place.
Yeah.
And so one when the crumbling comes of the Second Amendment.
Yeah.
You just got.
Nothing.
You guys like this and lies. Yeah.
Well, congratulations Alex.
Yeah, you have you almost reached bottom.
Now all you got to do is get rid of whiteness and lies and
then you're really empty.
Well, and it'll be an interesting one hand clapping.
Yeah, it'll be a true empty vessel.
Like there's nothing in there.
It could be anything could come out.
Yeah.
Anyway, Alex, you should quit.
Absolutely.
Please do.
But we'll be back on Friday.
We'll see what we got going on then.
But until then, Jordan, we have a website.
We do have a website.
It's KnowledgeFight.com.
Yep.
We're also on Twitter.
We are on Twitter.
It's at KnowledgeFight.net.
Go to bed Jordan.
Yeah.
We're also on Facebook.
We are.
Look at the right review.
And if you could please find a local charity or bail fund
especially in your area and help out people doing the
Lord's work.
Yep.
We'll be back.
But until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZX Clark.
Is there a war on Western civilization?
Why did you interrupt me?
I was in the middle of saying the nicknames that I used at the
end of this episode.
I was trying to do my bit and no, there is not a war on the
West.
Listen, I don't know if I support this.
Thanks for holding.
Well, Alex, I'm a first name caller.
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
I love you.