Knowledge Fight - #462: July 26, 2020

Episode Date: July 29, 2020

Today, Dan and Jordan give Alex Jones a mulligan and pretend that this is his first show back from vacation since his Saturday "emergency report" was such a dud. In this installment, Alex's commitment... to the second amendment wavers and Ted Nugent threatens Dan's will to keep on keeping on.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys knowledge and your knowledge fight. Need money! Andy and Kansas, Andy and Kansas, stop it. Andy and Kansas, Andy and Kansas, Andy and Kansas. It's time to pray, Andy and Kansas. You're on the air thanks for holding it. Hello Alex from Mr.厘 2013.
Starting point is 00:00:51 I'm a huge fan and love your work. Knowledge Fight. No, no, no, no. Knowledge Fight.com. I love you. Hey everybody. Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan.
Starting point is 00:01:02 I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes that sit around and drink novelty beverages and talk just a little about Alex Jones. Indeed we are Dan. Jordan. Jordan. Quick question.
Starting point is 00:01:10 You go first. What's your bright spot? You go first. Oh, we've been together too long. Now you're answering my questions before I answer them. Uh-huh. Yes.
Starting point is 00:01:18 I'm a psychic. That's my bright spot. I'm a magician, Jordan. No, I have an incredibly dark bright spot. Great. Paper Mario. No.
Starting point is 00:01:29 No. Which is that our friend of the show, Molly C, at Socialist Dog Mom on Twitter. Mother of two very cute dogs. It is out of lock up. Officially. She's still got all kinds of legal mumbo jumbo to deal with.
Starting point is 00:01:45 Yeah. It's good that she's out and it's a truly horrifying travesty that she was ever like. She has made me create a new stat. Uh-huh. All right. What's that? I call it murders above replacement person.
Starting point is 00:02:00 Uh-huh. Like she could commit two murders and still be better than the replacement person. Do you know what I'm saying? Three murders. She's not there yet. She's getting there. It's an interesting stat.
Starting point is 00:02:11 I think it's great. I don't know if we should use still a net positive. Do you know what I mean? I'm not sure if we should get into like murder and human lifesaver metrics. All right. I'm not sure. That might be smart.
Starting point is 00:02:22 Money murder ball is the way you want to go with things. Um, but yeah, I saw, I saw that on Twitter and I was very, very worried and, uh, but it looks like a great amount of support to you, Molly. You are, uh, out there on the front lines and the fascism. Good for you. So, uh, my bright spot, a little different. Um, I actually got a, uh, do a combination.
Starting point is 00:02:43 Combination. Looking into the mail bag. All right. Yep. All right. And also checking in on the year of the. So, um, first things first, uh, big thank you to our audience. This is really speaks highly of our audience that, uh, on our
Starting point is 00:02:59 last episode, I mentioned that, uh, I got some unmarked Rishi seltzers. Yes. Yeah. No one falsely took responsibility. That's great. Anybody could have emailed me and been like, it was me. I believe you.
Starting point is 00:03:12 Yeah. Uh, no, that was, uh, I got a message from Amy. Thank you so much. I really appreciate, uh, sending this sampler pack. I've not gotten a chance to, uh, try them, uh, yet, but, uh, mostly out of fear because they look like they're fantastic. Um, but, uh, also another, uh, little, uh, side care package from Amy came along and, uh, there's like some treats for
Starting point is 00:03:32 Celine and, um, just very excited to plant some of this pet grass, uh, that came along. That's fantastic. Also the, uh, got some masks from Brian. We did. We did. Thank you very much, Brian. Got one for me with a chili peppers on it.
Starting point is 00:03:46 Oh, Kitas. Indeed. And I am just, uh, uh, smoke, smoke. It looks like I'm smoking as I'm wearing a mask. Noob. I love it. I believe.
Starting point is 00:03:58 I think you're right. Yeah. So last thing really quick, uh, in the, uh, seltzer mail bag, which is what it's becoming kind of. Um, so I mentioned on a recent episode. Sure. I think it was the last episode that Aaron, uh, sent in polar seltzers.
Starting point is 00:04:11 Yes. And I finally drank all of them. And the summer series, I'm here to talk about it. All right. You would think that raspberry rosé or strawberry margarita would be the ones that I declare the champions of this set because raspberry rosé sounds like it would be amazing. They're great.
Starting point is 00:04:29 I love raspberries. I feel like the trying to create a wine kind of vibe. I think that's a great idea. Now. I'm not going to say that they're bad. They're good. They're very good. All of them are good.
Starting point is 00:04:41 Okay. Surprise. Surprise. Victor. Plum summer. Really? The best. Really?
Starting point is 00:04:49 I had no idea. This is the first plum seltzer. I'm not going to. I am not going to drink a seltzer that makes me shit myself. Perfectly plum. 82 out of 100. 82 out of 100. It's in the top five.
Starting point is 00:05:00 Is it because it keeps you regular? No, I don't think I had any foul related response to it. No, I was just blown away. The flavor is really good. It's complex. It's unlike a lot of the other seltzers, like in terms of it. Much like passion fruit.
Starting point is 00:05:16 It's a fruit flavor that I didn't think I would enjoy. I didn't know what I was getting into with the plum. Sure. Plum doesn't sound appealing. So good. All right. All right. So good.
Starting point is 00:05:27 All right. What do we got from the raspberry rosé? Raspberry rosé is coming in at seventy seven. Seventy seven. That's great. That's great. That's only five behind the plum. I mean, look, it's not enough for the top five.
Starting point is 00:05:35 No, that's right. At this point. Although it is in all of them are in danger of Rishi knocking them all out of the top five. Quite frankly. And as we all know, occasionally there could be a revised ruling. No, there can't be.
Starting point is 00:05:48 I was totally caught off guard. Yeah. On my heels. But I was the last one of them. I tried because I was like, I don't know about plum. Sure. Sure. I don't think this is going to be good.
Starting point is 00:06:01 It was sitting in the fridge. I was it was late. I was working. I was like, I need. I need a little caffeine less beverage. See what happens. Fucking see the plum in there and I'm like, well, all right. Here we go.
Starting point is 00:06:12 Got to do it. Blown away. Blown away. So good. All right. So good. And that's coming after a seventy seven. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:20 It's not like you were expecting anything to beat that kind of level, right? No, not at all. Plum came out of nowhere. Yeah. I mean, we had like, I think the lowest of them was the Kiwi pink grapefruit, but that was still a sixty eight. That's still solid.
Starting point is 00:06:33 Yeah. Their whole series of summer ones were really good. Really good. But plum. Plum it is. This has been my bright spot is plums. Yeah. Maybe I got to fuck around and get some plums in my life.
Starting point is 00:06:46 Got to fuck around and get some plums. So there's a thirty four year old. Yeah, maybe. Maybe I'll grow into aging really well. I love plums. So Jordan, today we had an interesting thing to go over. We're going to be talking about July 26th, twenty twenty. I'm Dan.
Starting point is 00:07:03 This is twenty twenty. Dammit. This is Sunday's episode. Uh-huh. You know, our last episode, we talked about Alex's special report that he put out on Saturday. I felt like it was, it was kind of, I believe the word used was perfunctory.
Starting point is 00:07:16 Yes. It was lacking a little bit of his show. Very much unnecessary. So I figured like let's give him another chance. Let's pretend he's coming back from a vacation on Sunday. Okay. Let's pretend he didn't do that. Mulligan.
Starting point is 00:07:29 Mulligan. Yeah. So we're going to pretend that he's been out of studio. Just come back in here. I might have also covered Monday's episode, but I kind of got about three quarters of the way through this episode. And I just got pass. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:42 I just got, I got, he has a guest on. I was like, I don't even care anymore. What I realized is like our show is essentially like, uh, if you listen to somebody, like a commentator, anybody, and they're like Soros is a Nazi collaborator. Sure. You know, I don't need to listen to this person. They are, they are a fucking weirdo and a liar.
Starting point is 00:08:01 Yeah. They're in our government. Our show is essentially like, what if we didn't take red flags? What if we kept listening to people we should have stopped listening to long ago? Sure. That's true. And it became unbearable after about three quarters of this
Starting point is 00:08:16 episode. He didn't have diamond and silk. He had the cubic zirconian linen. I don't think that I think that they're outside of his. They're two. Yeah. Yeah. You might be right.
Starting point is 00:08:28 Yeah. I think they've moved beyond Alex Jones. Oh, poor bastard. Before we get down to business Jordyn. It's take a little moment here to say thank you to folks who signed up and are sporting the show. So first, Douglas M. Thank you so much. You're now a policy wanker.
Starting point is 00:08:37 I'm a policy wank. I get Douglas Okay Ted. Tyler c. Thank you so much. You're not Alex won. I'm a policy won. Thanks, Tyler. You next Robin.
Starting point is 00:08:46 See. Thank you so much. You know, policy, what I'm a policy wank. Thank you, Robin. See you next chase. See you. Now, because he's more.
Starting point is 00:08:54 I'm a policy wank thanks. Chase a bunch of less than itals," it is a lot C's next Lee P. Thank you so much. You're now policy won. I'm a policy wank. Thank you, Lee. Next. I think books are neat.
Starting point is 00:09:04 Thank you so much. You're now a policy wank. I'm a policy wank. I think books are neat too. Me three. Next. Ryan C. Another C.
Starting point is 00:09:12 What is going on? What's happening? The C family. Strongly policy wonkish. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you, Ryan. And finally, like I said, thank you to a couple people who donated on an elevated level.
Starting point is 00:09:21 We appreciate that very much. So Sean R.D. Thank you so much. You are now a technocrat Tom D. Thank you so much. You are now a technocrat and Sam. Thank you so much. You are now a technocrat.
Starting point is 00:09:31 I'm a policy wonk. Crikey, mate. That's fantastic. Have yourself a brew. How's your 401k doing, bro? All right. We got to go full tilt buggy on this Watson. All right.
Starting point is 00:09:40 Let's just get down to business. We ain't making that money off that heroin. Why are you pimp so good? My neck is freakishly large. I declare info war on you. Thank you so much, Sean. Thank you so much, Tom. And thank you so much, Sam.
Starting point is 00:09:52 Yes. Thank you very much to all of you. Yeah. For out there listening and thinking, hey, I enjoy this show. I'd like to support these gents too. You can do that. For the website, knowledge, right.com, click in the button. This is for the show.
Starting point is 00:10:00 We would appreciate it. Or you take that generosity and throw it in the direction of local charity in your area that help people in need. Is that a big, what have you? Absolutely. So Jordan, we start here on Sunday. Alex has been out of studio for a week and we pretend that he didn't do a special report.
Starting point is 00:10:15 That was a disaster. You know, you get back from a trip and you're just a little groggy. Yeah. Yeah. You shake the cobwebs off. Yeah. You get them all again. You're coming in and you start complaining.
Starting point is 00:10:26 You're going to see an end the police dogs of thought crime. Sinclair says it will postpone and rework segment featuring conspiracy theory about Fauci. And it says that without any proof, though they don't show the piece, they were going to look at Fauci at the NIH for 45 years involved in gain of function transfers of weaponized coronavirus during the Obama administration. So here's what happened with Sinclair at the end of last week that Alex
Starting point is 00:11:01 is now covering. They did a great job. They did. So Eric Bowling did an episode of his show where he interviewed the woman from Plandemic, Judea McCovitz, and they did a ridiculous conspiracy piece about the allegations that Dr. Fauci created COVID-19. It was straight up info wars shit and they probably felt really good
Starting point is 00:11:19 about it when they shot the video. But unfortunately they'd flown too close to the info wars son and people like Oliver Darcy at CNN took notice. Darcy wrote an article on CNN pointing out how embarrassing this episode of Bowling's show was and in response Sinclair decided to postpone the episode and quote rework it. Wow, something bowling did was embarrassing. Oh, that's crazy.
Starting point is 00:11:40 They thought that they could put it out and just fly under the radar, but it turns out that people noticed and Sinclair rightly realized that putting out this episode would probably be damaging to their brand. That's a doodle on our part on Monday Sinclair announced that they were giving up on trying to rework the segment and we're just going to shelf the entire thing and not air it saying of McCovitz quote given the nature of the theories she presented we believe
Starting point is 00:12:03 it not appropriate to air the interview. So we're Sinclair and we were really excited to air this stuff that we believe 100% but you guys realize she's crazy. So we like money more than our lives. This is just an example of a brand that enjoys a certain amount of mainstream appearance going one step too far and realizing they're probably in jeopardy of being seen for what they are, which is another info wars.
Starting point is 00:12:29 CNN didn't tell them not to air the piece. That's just dumb spin Alex is putting on this story to make it possible for him to report and reporting on this story is going to be a challenge for him and the reason for that actually has to do with that episode of Bowling's show. Alex has to be in support of McCovitz because she's stridently anti-vaccine and she's spreading all the COVID-19 conspiracies that are Alex's bread and butter right now loves it.
Starting point is 00:12:52 However, the other guest on that program is going to be an issue. The other guest was McCovitz's lawyer Larry Clayman. That asshole is everywhere. He's like a bad penny showing up for those of you who don't keep up with our sundry weirdos who populate Alex's world. Larry Clayman was a friend of Alex's back in the Obama bashing days, but in more recent times, they've become bitter enemies. Most recently, Clayman along with Jerome Corsi filed the
Starting point is 00:13:24 defamation lawsuit against Roger and Alex, which is likely doomed to failure, but isn't the sort of thing you expect to see going down between allies. Alex is going to have to somehow dance around the fact that Clayman is McCovitz's lawyer and you've got to assume that this is going to preclude her from ever appearing on info wars. Roger's not giving you those fucking computers. This is all just very sad.
Starting point is 00:13:46 And honestly, I'm super bummed out that I know about the interpersonal dynamics of these con artists. It's like I see her on the bowling show with Clayman as her lawyer. I'm like, wow, she's not going on info wars now. You shouldn't be embarrassed. You know about the complicated interpersonal conflicts between characters on Degrassi, Dan. So let's leave the embarrassment behind.
Starting point is 00:14:07 My reality TV show is con artists and their lawyers. Yeah, it's that's way better than like if you're real housewives of Beverly Hills in it. It's hard to find people to gab about this stuff with. Yeah, well, that's true. Yeah, that's true. This is an isolating hobby of ours. Much more easy to find someone to talk to about the bachelor than like, hey, do you what's going on with Larry Clayman?
Starting point is 00:14:31 Socially options are like Melissa got voted off, but also claiming it's not getting those computers back. Clayman got four clients, but he also can't practice law for 90 days. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. That might be an issue. Dan, I got to go. I know you do. No, no, I agree with you.
Starting point is 00:14:49 Yeah. So my cat likes hearing about it. Yeah. But Alex gets into talking about his conspiracies about Fauci and how Sinclair should be airing this. Of course they should. It's the truth. And so Alex, Alex has his like sort of beats his waypoints that
Starting point is 00:15:06 he goes to in order to prove his Fauci conspiracies. And they're just headlines. Fauci at the NIH for 45 years. Involving gain of function transfers of weaponized coronavirus during the Obama administration. Now, Dr. McCamshaw, please look right here. Okay. NIH lifts funding pause on gain of function research.
Starting point is 00:15:34 Got him. NIH.gov. That's it. And it gets into Fauci and the programs and bill them on the gates. The actual gain of function. No, it doesn't. And that article is not going to help Alex as much as he wants to think.
Starting point is 00:15:48 This is a real post on the NIH's website and Alex is reading the title correctly, but he's neglecting to mention that the date is December 19th, 2017, which falls just outside the conspiracy timeline. No, that's so Obama stopped being president technically on January 20th, 2017. Uh-huh. And December 2017 is Obama's been president this whole time,
Starting point is 00:16:13 Dan. No doubt. Yeah. Fauci was supposed to have done this back during Obama's administration. So if this lifting of the pause on gain of function research is happening during Trump's presidency, that does nothing to help her.
Starting point is 00:16:24 Alex's case. This article begins quote. Today, the National Institutes of Health announced that it is lifting the funding pause dating back to October 2014 on gain of function experiments involving influenza, SARS, and MERS viruses. Gain of function research is important in helping us identify understand and develop strategies and effective counter
Starting point is 00:16:42 measures against rapidly evolving pathogens that pose a threat to public health. The funding pause was lifted in response to today's release of the Department of Health and Human Services framework for guiding funding decisions about proposed research involving enhanced potential pandemic pathogens. If you go and read that paper from the Department of Health and Human Services, you'll immediately realize a few
Starting point is 00:17:04 things. The first is that the head of the HHS at that time was Eric Hargan, the fourth of five people that Trump has appointed to that position in his term as president. No, that was December 2017. So he'd only taken office in January 20th. So I assume that must be the first person that he... There's a number of people who have been acting.
Starting point is 00:17:25 It was only 11 months difference between them. So there's... You pick a guy for at least a year, right, Dan? No. The Department of HHS, which is run by a Trump appointee and is a department in the executive branch of the government, which Trump is in charge of, put out this framework, which led to the NIH lifting the pause on funding this research.
Starting point is 00:17:46 All of this traces back to Trump. The second thing you notice is that this framework would never justify or enable creating a bio weapon. There are a bunch of criteria about what kind of research was justifiable. And the idea that that matches up with Alex's theories is just laughable. The third thing that jumps out here is that there's an entire
Starting point is 00:18:04 section in this document, this framework about oversight. Any research that was funded because of this lifting of the pause was subject to review by the Department of Health and Human Services. The entity that was funding the research would report on their intention to the HHS and the Office of Science and Technology Policy, who would evaluate the legitimacy of the research in question.
Starting point is 00:18:25 The HHS would then quote, develop recommendations on acceptability for HHS funding, including suggestions for additional risk mitigation measures and or terms and conditions of award if funded. This is where it's just such a huge problem for Alex that he doesn't read things past headlines. He has an NIH headline that he thinks is a smoking gun, but literally everything about this story doesn't match up with
Starting point is 00:18:48 the narrative that he's presenting and the actual source he's pointing to really complicates the narrative. Once you understand the review process and an oversight that's built into the funding process of these NIH grants, it becomes comical to imagine that what Alex is saying is even possible. There would be so many people that would have to be in on this and an impossibly long paper trail. The headline sounds good to Alex though and that's all that
Starting point is 00:19:10 matters. Dear HHS. NIH.gov. I am scientist. I work hard. Please prove my research into a bio weapon. I would address this to the head of the HHS, but unfortunately, I don't know who will be.
Starting point is 00:19:25 I don't know which one. When this gets here. A heart. Yeah. Yeah. So that headline doesn't work. I think it actually kind of works against his conspiracies. Yeah, 100%.
Starting point is 00:19:36 But I mean, we know Alex. He has more than one headline. Sure. Here's Newsweek. Dr. Fauci back controversial Wuhan lab with U.S. dollars for risky coronavirus research with spliced virus Chimeras using weaponized bat viruses. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:19:54 Oh, so a real important point. Alex is editorializing a little bit on that headline. Oh, yeah. The actual headline is quote Dr. Fauci backed controversial Wuhan lab with U.S. dollars for risky coronavirus research. So it didn't add the part about Chimeras. Chimeras and the bat viruses.
Starting point is 00:20:11 A little bit of that was left that out. Maybe editorialized. Okay. So I think the real headline to the one Alex is reporting kind of makes clear how he doesn't feel like this story is juicy enough on its own needs to make it a little bit sexier bat virus. Hi, Mara.
Starting point is 00:20:26 Come on. This story is mostly about research going back to 2014 that the NIH helped fund which involved Obama. True. Sorry for it. This research involved virologist at that lab in Wuhan surveilling and cataloging existing bat coronaviruses. In 2019, they began doing some gain of function study,
Starting point is 00:20:46 but there's no evidence that this is at all related to COVID-19. And again, the NIH is only able to fund gain of function research, like in this case, because of the framework that was put out by the Trump Department of Health and Human Services. Wow, there's that. It is true that Fauci supports gain of function research.
Starting point is 00:21:02 And if you want to have a debate about whether or not the risks outweigh the potential breakthroughs, that's a valid conversation to have. It's not the conversation Alex is having. So I'll leave that debate to be had elsewhere by people far more knowledgeable on the topic than me. The point here again is that Alex just has a headline with nothing to go on that's any deeper than that.
Starting point is 00:21:20 And it doesn't even match up with what he said. Yeah, yeah. So he goes on this, like it's just really annoying to listen to him try to make points because it's so much just shit talk and then just reading headlines and being like, see, I really don't understand how you can just read headlines as if that proves your point. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:21:41 And then misread the editorial. Yeah, yeah. Just like, oh, Dr. Fauci. He created a Wuhan virus in the bat lab. And so now he's killing everybody. That proves everything Newsweek. It's almost say that it's almost parody. Like it really is.
Starting point is 00:21:58 But it's not. But instead it's the same as the people who run the government. So Alex is spinning his wheels on that for a little bit and then he starts getting into race issues. No, he should not. He's feeling a little bit bad. Don't do that. Well, look, man, he wouldn't if white people weren't under attack.
Starting point is 00:22:17 Every turn. We live in a cult. Look at political correctness. Yes, look at it. What about it? On YouTube, they get strikes on famous chess channels if white knight takes black pawn because that could be seen as racist. I don't think that's true.
Starting point is 00:22:35 I was telling the lawyer that he didn't believe me. That's the level of the cult and we've bowed to them so much for so long. They think we're going to bow to them again and forever. Oh, no, your mouth fell open here. I imagine this is how that here's how that went. Did you just give me an info wars article without without a citation?
Starting point is 00:23:00 My mouth has fallen open. Wow. This is a story that Alex has completely forgotten. This is a story that Alex is completely misrepresenting about chess. Sure. His version of it is that people who are playing chess are being accused of racism because, for example, one move is that
Starting point is 00:23:15 a white knight takes a black pawn. The actual story is that this is based on is about a it's a Sydney based ABC affiliate. They were working on a segment exploring the idea that chess is intrinsically racist because traditionally the white pieces always get the first move. This came to public attention on June 22nd when Australian chess figure John Adams tweeted about being approached for a
Starting point is 00:23:37 comment for the segment, which he responded to with outrage. From what I can tell about this segment, it was planned as an exploration of whether or not this was something that had racist roots. It was trying to like come at it with without any bias at all. Why is this the case? Why is it that white people always go first? You know, or just take white people out of it.
Starting point is 00:23:58 Why is it the case that traditionally chess always has the white pieces go first? It was meant to be a supplement to the conversation that was happening about things like the name of the Washington football team. It wasn't meant to be a direct accusation that chess is racist. Man, they are not going to want to hear about go. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:16 That came up in articles. The ABC anchor who was working on this story, James Valentine, has since tried to tell his side of the story, which is basically as follows. He saw a tweet from a parent who was musing about why the white always go first based on a question that he'd received from his child. Valentine realized that he didn't know why that was the tradition
Starting point is 00:24:37 so he was working on a piece discussing it. And as part of that, his producers reached out to various chess experts in Australia, including this John Adams. All right. So they're curious. Adams assumed that they were working on a story with the angle that chess is racist, saying, quote, the ABC have taken the view that chess is racist, given that white always goes
Starting point is 00:24:54 first. They're seeking comment from a chess official as to whether the rules of chess need to be altered. Exclamation point. Oh, boy. Valentine responded in a Facebook post that quote, I haven't decided that chess is racist. I'm not looking for someone to say that chess is racist.
Starting point is 00:25:08 I'm looking to create some conversation that will be fresh and will keep someone interested and will tell us something more about the world and why it is the way it is. Yeah, sure. This is a zero. And it's just yet another example of Alex lying about dumb, misconstrued, trivial human interest stories in order to amplify and spread white victimhood narratives.
Starting point is 00:25:27 A serious broadcaster with the level of importance that Alex pretends he has wouldn't waste their time with a story that's as dumb as this. Like the version that Alex is telling, you know, I don't understand how your reaction isn't the same as my reaction to knowledge that I don't know, which is like, oh, why is that? I would like someone to explain that to me or I can go look it up right now instead of just being like, see, they're out of
Starting point is 00:25:53 control. Yeah, I looked into it and I was going to explain it, but it's not. No, no. I mean, the story is not really as interesting as I would like it to be for me to tell you. Right. It basically is a thing where the people would alternate going
Starting point is 00:26:09 first and they'd get to choose their colors. Right. But then as tournament play came along, it became. We need to standardize it in some way. So this is an easier way for us to just be like instead of being like, well, this time black went first. So our annotation has to be altered. It was more or less arbitrary.
Starting point is 00:26:25 Yeah. Of course it is. Great. And it could have gone the other way. It could have gone the other way. If you want to have a conversation about whether or not back when they made that decision between the black and the white was their a subconscious bias.
Starting point is 00:26:38 I don't know how you'll ever get to the bottom of that. But how could you? But from what everything I can tell, it doesn't seem like, you know, we've uncovered any deeply racist story here. Okay, now somehow I feel like a fellow might be racist. Who knows? Because a fellow. Okay, never mind.
Starting point is 00:26:53 Backgammon. Don't even get me started. Yeah. So what's really going on here in the story that Alex is covering poorly is that a guy tweeted out a misrepresentation of a planned ABC Sydney story about the history of chess and then white identity adherents got really mad about it. Of course they did.
Starting point is 00:27:09 That's all that's going on here. They are not hard to rile up. No, certainly not. No, it doesn't take much. There's a bit of attention going on surrounding protests. Sure. Certainly there are things that are going on in Portland. Oh, like what?
Starting point is 00:27:25 Still there are other cities. Seattle had some flare up. Totally. As you mentioned. Yeah. Enrichment. And Austin, there was a guy who was shot at a protest. Which we'll get into in a little bit.
Starting point is 00:27:41 But in order to ease into that topic, Alex has to discuss another person who was killed recently. Black Trump supporter executed in broad daylight for holding up a Trump sign in Wisconsin. Leftist pledge. Anyone supporting Trump will be murdered. This person who died, Alex doesn't say his name ever. Doesn't seem to care about anything other than the optics
Starting point is 00:28:04 surrounding it. He's a black Trump supporter. So you don't need to learn his name. No, it's awful. This guy didn't need to die. Whatever the circumstances surrounding it, it's awful. It is, you know, it's clearly on murder and should be treated as such.
Starting point is 00:28:19 Yeah. But there's misreporting going on to it, at least at this point. It's unclear whether this guy was murdered because of support for Trump or something else. Right. There isn't any reason that Alex should be reporting this as that other than he could speculate about it if he wanted
Starting point is 00:28:37 to. But that's not what he's doing. He's reporting it very concretely that it was in retaliation for supporting Trump. He's saying it's a fact. Yeah. And I think that making a bigger deal out of this is in order to help deflect from the fact that.
Starting point is 00:28:54 Oh, of course. In Austin, in his own city, there is a very clear cut case of someone who was a protester, who Alex should support, who was murdered. Yeah. Austin protester allegedly armed with AK-47. I don't know why it says allegedly. He had an AK-47.
Starting point is 00:29:13 It was a semi-automatic version of that. Shot by a driver while blocking traffic and approaching vehicle. We're going to get to that first right now. Listen to what? By the way, it looks like this guy's background. You talk about it. Why?
Starting point is 00:29:28 I'm just going to leave it at that. You talk about bazaar and stupid, larping out at night, blocking traffic with a gun pointed at somebody's, a threat people have a right to defend themselves. But this individual, he's got his name, all the information is on him, FullWars.com. Here's what he said about 10 minutes before he ran out with a mob to stop cars, pointed his gun reportedly at somebody
Starting point is 00:29:51 and got shot. Here it is. I saw a little bit about the gun again. Oh, it's an AK-47. Why'd you got it out tonight? They don't let us march in the streets anymore, so got to practice some of all right. Do you feel like you're going to use it?
Starting point is 00:30:11 No. I think the, I mean, if I use it against the cops, I'm dead. And I think all the people that hate us and, you know, want to say shit to us are too big of a pussies to stop and actually do anything about it. Why'd you start carrying? Well, our roommate got arrested and they stopped letting us march anywhere, so started carrying.
Starting point is 00:30:38 You're a great virtue to say more so. I'm not sure what Alex thinks that this demonstration proves. That was a guy saying that the police were arresting people he knew for expressing their right to assemble. So he was carrying his gun to exercise his second amendment rights. He didn't say that he was planning on shooting anyone and
Starting point is 00:30:56 Alex would be reporting this very differently if he was reporting or if he was protesting for some other cause. Absolutely. The protesting question here is 28-year-old Garrett Foster who was shot and killed by a driver in Austin on Saturday evening. Witnesses have been pretty universal and they're telling the story that the driver was the instigator and aggressor
Starting point is 00:31:14 in the situation, despite accusations that Foster shot at the driver first and was the driver's only firing and self-defense. In reality, protesters didn't really even surround the guy's car, which was another accusation that was made to justify Foster's murder. Videos have been released which clearly show the guy in the car turning at an intersection specifically where
Starting point is 00:31:36 marchers were crossing. The protesters were marching and the intersection is blocked, which is inconvenient, but this driver drove and accelerated specifically into a group of people, which is completely unacceptable. According to New York Magazine, quote, witnesses and police say that the motorist fired on Foster after he approached the vehicle and that Foster did not fire his
Starting point is 00:31:56 weapon, but there are conflicting reports about whether or not Foster did anything to threaten the driver. Witnesses have told reporters that Foster kept his rifle pointed at the ground as he approached the vehicle and that he was not the only protester carrying a firearm at the march. They say that the driver pointed a handgun through the car window and fired at Foster.
Starting point is 00:32:15 There were apparently two people who fired weapons, but Austin Police Chief Brian Manley has said that, quote, the first person who appeared to a fire was the driver and then a second person, not Foster, drew a concealed handgun and opened fire at the car as it drove away. This is a tragic story and there's no reason that Garrett Foster should be dead right now. For Alex to justify this killing is ghoulish to say nothing
Starting point is 00:32:38 of how much this implicates and calls into question his belief in a citizen's right to bear arms. Like this is this should be his big issue. Nope. White citizens right to bear arms. That's the only thing that's the only thing. Foster is white. I don't understand.
Starting point is 00:32:53 I don't understand. Well, it's because he was there for. Leftists aren't people. Yeah, leftists aren't people. That's so fucked up. That's so fucked up. The Second Amendment is actually negotiable to Alex, which is maybe one of the things that we were considering
Starting point is 00:33:10 the last domino that could possibly fall. For his like it turns out. It turns out that if you have different political beliefs from him, you do not have the most essential right that Alex believes Americans have. To the extent that he will smear you and make you look like the person who's in the wrong after you've been killed. Yeah, just, you know, in order to get around that.
Starting point is 00:33:35 So Alex doesn't have to defend him as someone who is expressing their Second Amendment right to be armed. Yeah, in his state, in his home state, his hometown. Yeah, I have no idea what Alex is talking about when he says that he looked into Foster and that he's a creep. I looked into it. I just don't know what he could be talking about. And one of the only things that keeps coming up that seems
Starting point is 00:33:55 like something Alex would be referring to in all of the coverage is that he was at the protest with his black quadriplegic fiance. Foster and his fiance had been together since they were 17. And in 2011, she came down with a condition that nearly killed her and required her arms and legs to be amputated. Since then, he's taken care of her and to quote Foster's mother quote, he loved that woman unconditionally. I can find no reason to think that Foster was a creep.
Starting point is 00:34:21 Alex needs to justify this. And until he does, I have to assume that Alex thinks there's something intrinsically weird or wrong about this guy. Miscegenation. Sure. Or the fact that she was quadriplegic. Right, maybe. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:34:39 Whatever it is, it's really fucked up. Yeah, I don't understand. Yeah. It is. It is never. I wish we had never even speculated on whether or not there was a bottom like from day one on our first episode, we should have been like just so everybody knows no matter how long this podcast goes,
Starting point is 00:34:59 no matter what changes, Alex has no bottom. Alex believes in nothing. We didn't know that. Nothing. We didn't know that. That's what I would do if I was a time traveler killing Hitler. Nah, can't do nothing. Go back in time.
Starting point is 00:35:12 Tell me to say something. I mean, I think that would be bad for us because I think that we would have stopped maybe, but also I think that our cynicism and like disgust is earned, you know, like totally because there was benefits of doubt that had been given along the way of like we didn't know how like we knew he sucked. We know he sucked as much as he does. No, and I think that that's what's made this an experience and
Starting point is 00:35:39 a learning thing for me. I'd known going in. Hey, everything is just going to constantly get more disappointing. Yeah, Alex is going to give up on every principle. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't I don't I don't know who would be as interesting for me. Yeah, I can't imagine starting out a show being like we're going to talk about a man who doesn't believe in anything, you know,
Starting point is 00:36:01 yeah, like that would be a real bummer. I don't even know what what you could do. Yeah, so there is likely going to be developments on this story, so we'll see what comes of it. But like if anyone who fired weapons will end up being charged. Yeah, I don't know. But for now, the available information does not in any way support Alex's reporting on this story.
Starting point is 00:36:20 He's just providing coverage that justifies the killing of a protester on the side that he disagrees with. And then he's using the fact that they had a gun to prop up that justification, which is probably the most cowardly and hypocritical thing I can imagine him doing and he should be deeply ashamed of himself. He should be getting protested by all the gun weirdos that have been allies for the entire time of his career.
Starting point is 00:36:41 Larry Pratt should be calling for him to be off air 100% all of these fucking Ted Nugent should be showing up at Alex's house telling me to suck his rifle you bet or whatever. Like it's it's nonsensical. You might as well say I'm advocating for gun control just for the left. Alex is a gun grab. He's a gun grab. Yeah, he's a gun grab.
Starting point is 00:36:59 Alex is a Alex does not believe in the Second Amendment. Certainly not whatsoever. Nope. This whole thing if you believe in Alex, you don't believe in the Second Amendment. Sure. You believe in nothing nothing emptiness, but there's a way that they like he Alex tries.
Starting point is 00:37:13 Like I said, he's trying to pretend that this guy was pointing his gun at these these folks. Sure. This guy in the car in order to justify that it's like you know you're gonna get shot right and and I mean like it's interesting how that isn't applied to the people and St. Louis who were pointing guns at protesters. Surprise.
Starting point is 00:37:32 So if they had been murdered, I guess I guess I would say that that's fine. Yeah, because they're pointing. They were pointing guns at people. Wow. I'm sure he wouldn't. I'm sure he wouldn't either. But that's the game that he tries to play.
Starting point is 00:37:43 And so he tries to pretend that there's proof of this. Here's the Austin protester with his AK-47 who runs out. And again, we've got paused still shots on info wars.com from the video showing him win the rifle up to the window of the car with people beating on it, screaming, going, he's white. He's white trying to pull the white person out and it's white people mainly saying and doing it. You can go to info wars and they don't have any proof of the
Starting point is 00:38:11 sort that Alex is claiming. It's odd. There's an embedded tweet from an account with 47 followers that purports to show Foster pointing his gun at this car. But check mark. No. And also the image clearly doesn't show that it shows Foster near the car with one arm back.
Starting point is 00:38:27 But the angle of his gun very clearly appears to be pointing down. It's difficult to explain this without the imagery. But from the angle this picture was taken from, there's literally no way that his gun could be pointed at anything further up than the bottom of this car's tire. And the reason for that is there are things behind him that would have been blocked by the gun's barrel if it was any
Starting point is 00:38:49 further up. Gotcha. Like you can see the back of his arm. You can see where one point of the gun is the back the butt end of it. Right. But it's clearly pointing downwards. Otherwise you would have seen like this guy who's standing
Starting point is 00:39:02 behind him blocked. Yeah. He would have been blocked by the color of his shirt and his arm would not have been a thing that you couldn't see a black gun barrel pointed through. So it's just impossible. This image itself is exculpatory. It shows that it wasn't pointed at the car.
Starting point is 00:39:19 Those 47 followers are going to be pissed. Yeah. Also the image is not a protester surrounding an innocent person's car. It's the aftermath of this car driving directly into a gun. Directly into a group of people. Perhaps at that point the driver felt worried about people surrounding his car.
Starting point is 00:39:34 But the car would not have been surrounded if he hadn't turned and accelerated into a group of people. This is a very disgraceful display. Alex is putting on here. He's defaming a guy who was killed. And I think that there's a probably a pretty decent chance he might be opening himself up to some kind of legal action. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:49 No. Fuck that. I wouldn't be too surprised if he's you know in it because that dude's a private citizen like it's not like it's not like Garrett Foster is a public figure. So fucked up. Yeah. I don't even know.
Starting point is 00:40:04 Like I guess if he had come to bat for the guy maybe I'd be like well at least he believes in the second amendment or something. You know like if he came out and was like look this guy was a protester and I think these people are disgusting and what they're fighting for is bullshit. But the man was carrying open. It was registered.
Starting point is 00:40:25 He was doing everything right and he got murdered. I guess I'd be like well there's something you know but now it's just it's feel so empty when the second amendment is gone for Alex and me it feels empty. Yeah it's jarring. Yeah. Yeah and I think it's interesting to try and like fantasy book like what would it be like if Alex had principles.
Starting point is 00:40:48 Yeah exactly. And I think that we would have responded to a lot of things over the course of this very differently. Sure. And I think that Alex would be in a lot of the positions that he's in now. Yeah. So I mean I think I think that imagining that one singular
Starting point is 00:41:03 decision. I guess. It's tough because then we'd be like oh there'd be a domino effect backwards that would affect everything. Well not everything but certainly would I think there would be a much different picture of Alex than than than what you clearly have. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:17 Yeah. A soulless husk. Yeah I think that if you I think that the you know obviously we're never going to see eye to eye with Alex on anything right. Right. Especially political positions and social issues and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:41:32 Don't ever really expect to you think that like some things transcend and it just turns out they don't. Yeah they don't. Yeah. He doesn't live in America. He lives in fictional fascism land and so he jumps around a little bit to other spots of unrest. Sure.
Starting point is 00:41:51 He talks a little bit about Portland and how mayor Ted Wheeler went out to the protest a little while back. Yeah. And Alex has an interesting perspective on that. And all these armshare leftists like the mayor of Portland went out to support them burning down the courthouse and then they attack him because he's an old white dude. They go look he's white.
Starting point is 00:42:14 They don't even know he's the mayor under Soros commanding them. They knew very well that he was the mayor. They knew really well that he was the mayor. Yeah. Alex is trying to turn this into something where it's like oh he's white. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:27 It wasn't. It was because he's Ted Wheeler. Yeah. The situation that Alex isn't taking into consideration is the fact that you know that wasn't just about federal agents. The situation and the protests in Portland have to do with also the Portland Police Bureau which is under the aegis of Ted Wheeler.
Starting point is 00:42:48 They're telling me that they don't appreciate the guy who ordered the cops to mercilessly terrorize them for 45 days. Yeah. And then showed up and tried to make it into a thing about. Yeah. It's more of a PR kind of looking thing for him to show up at the front of this thing with the federal folks there when there had been weeks and weeks of gassing and beating people
Starting point is 00:43:15 who were protesting. I think that the dynamic that is actually there is much different than what Alex wants. But he wants just this optical thing of white. Sure. But he's really he's the one who's running all of Antifa. They don't even realize. Fuck off.
Starting point is 00:43:33 This is childish. Yeah. I don't think he would have the same take if because here's the same thing that would happen if Laurie Lightfoot Chicago's miserable terrible mayor showed up at a protest here and got tear gassed. Everybody would be like we still fucking hate you. You ordered the Chicago cops to do this.
Starting point is 00:43:52 Yeah. So Alex gets into Colorado. There was a shooting there recently and also he spends most of his time talking about from last month. There was another. There was a different shooting and so it doesn't really talk about the current day one but spends a bit of time on the way because he already has details on that one.
Starting point is 00:44:12 Sure. And we've got Colorado another Colorado. Oh wait. There's more. Not just yesterday's Colorado. We have another Colorado where they shoot the man. Last time I heard he's in critical condition brain dead. And it was a liberal white lawyer did it and he in his mug
Starting point is 00:44:29 shot. He's so proud of what he did. He shot a Nazi. So this is Alex returning to a story we covered a while back. This is about a man in Alamosa Colorado who was shot by a guy to protest. When we discussed the story my position was that the shooter had a line and it did not appear that this driver was
Starting point is 00:44:47 endangering people or threatening to hurt anyone. I don't know any information that subsequently come out that would make me revise my position. But I remember covering this and the video does not show anything even close to justifiable. That said I pulled this clip because I want to demonstrate how Alex is a complete and casual liar in that clip. He said the last he'd heard that this guy who got shot was in
Starting point is 00:45:11 critical condition and brain dead. Weirdly if you look for an update on Danny Pruitt who was the shooting victim you can find an Alamosa news article from June 26th which says that he was discharged from the hospital on that Wednesday and his lawyer said quote he's very pleased to have been released and very excited about getting to see his daughter. That's not to say that he's fully recovered by that point but
Starting point is 00:45:32 he's on a great path in that direction to the point where the doctors could release him to recover at home. I don't think I need to say this but if you're brain dead you can't do that. No he was really excited to see his granddaughter which you could see on the EKG. Jordan's brain death is irreversible. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:45:53 And it describes when all of your brain functions cease. People in that state can be kept alive with artificial processes but you will never recover and you will not be able to go home and heal. Come on. Alex is making up details about this case because it makes his political targets look worse. He doesn't care at all about factual actual reporting.
Starting point is 00:46:13 He's just like trying but he's trying to make his enemies look worse by making damage that they've done seem worse when just shooting the guy is terrible. Yeah. I don't have any interest in supporting this guy for shooting that guy. I cannot believe that, I mean in a court I guess like when you're determining sentencing you're like he shot him in the
Starting point is 00:46:41 leg so that's not attempted murder or something I guess as opposed to as opposed to shooting him in the chest. I don't know and the punishments are fine. You don't need to add anything after shoots a guy for me to be like fuck that guy. Well in this case that's not even relevant because it's shooting the head. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:00 And to be perfectly honest like I mean you could look at it from a like a you know consequential perspective but a lot of it is a little random you know whatever happens after you make the decision to shoot somebody. Yeah. Sometimes you can get lucky and they don't die. Sometimes you get unlucky and they do you know or you know whatever perspective you want to have on it.
Starting point is 00:47:22 Sure. A lot of it's outside of your control and that's why you shouldn't shoot people. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you for coming to my Ted talk. Yeah. It's a good Ted talk.
Starting point is 00:47:32 I think it's a simple one but a really important one. So Alex has a theory and that is that this guy in Colorado who shot this this driver actually is Soros. No. Oh he did this because he thinks he's going to get away with it. Man who was driving. By the way last time I heard that guy shot was on live
Starting point is 00:47:52 support. We need to find that person even alive and you look at the guy that he's been he's been given a mug shot for capital murder and he looks like he's having orgasm because he believes he'll be released from prison after the communist overthrow and he'll be in a gulag over you and your family. Seek again boy. Ain't got to happen.
Starting point is 00:48:10 We'll be right back. Stay with us. So yeah I guess this guy figured he was going to just get out once there's a communist uprising. So this guy was like hey dude they stormed the Bastille. Right. They'll storm Colorado local prison. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:27 The Marquis decide this situation. Me and my three other buddies in the Bastille are going to get out of here. Yeah I don't know. I don't know if that's this guy's plan. I think he might have just been. I think it's a bad plan. Disturbed individual.
Starting point is 00:48:39 Maybe. Anyway some people have brought up that there's this frontline report about Alex. Yes. That's going to be coming out as we're recording it. I believe it airs this evening. Right. He needs to preemptively deal with that.
Starting point is 00:48:52 Right. Kind of. But I think he's just more relishing the idea that people are talking about it. He's pretty excited about that. Yeah. I don't have any knowledge about this frontline report. I have no idea.
Starting point is 00:49:03 I wouldn't know about it unless people had tweeted at me. Yeah. Yeah. I would never have noticed. I'll watch it. And if it's interesting we might cover it for an episode. But I don't. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:49:15 It might just be stupid. Are we going to do how not to cover Alex Jones for whatever number we're on. Maybe. Or it could be good. I have no idea. Yeah. I don't want to prejudge.
Starting point is 00:49:25 Of course not. It could be a making Kelly situation or it could be a really well done. Totally. A piece. Time will tell. Let's hope. But Alex is excited about it.
Starting point is 00:49:34 Of course. Which doesn't bode well in my mind. Well they simultaneously have frontline coming out. With a multi-series show of complete fiction. Because I've talked to people that have been involved in the production. Unbelievable. They're actually going to say I'm told that Russians fund
Starting point is 00:49:52 info wars. I wonder how much they had to pay people to say that. Look at this headline. United States of Conspiracy examines how three million Alex Jones. Roger Stone. And President Trump. There you go.
Starting point is 00:50:08 Helped to lay the foundation for the conspiracy theories to take center stage in America's national conversation. Fair point. And on the front page of their Twitter front page of frontline. It's me at the evil. Austin rallies against compulsory mask. How horrible.
Starting point is 00:50:28 We are. Alex doesn't seem to be too worried or too threatened about this. So that makes me think that either he's really miscalculating or it won't be anything that is too hard hitting. That's kind of the feel because he freaked out before Megan Kelly. And that's because I think he was aware that she had
Starting point is 00:50:50 something on video that he was worried about being in the actual piece. I would imagine that whatever this is. I honestly don't believe that he knows somebody who's involved who said that they're going to say that Russia paid him or whatever. I don't believe that. But whatever this is, it just doesn't seem like I think
Starting point is 00:51:08 that he's looking at this as a possible PR win as opposed to something that threatens his credibility with his audience in his mind and probably reasonably. So it's not like they're going. It's not like PBS is going to take away his audience. His audience isn't going to watch PBS and be like, Oh, no, it seems unlikely. So the only thing that he can get out of this is people who
Starting point is 00:51:33 don't know anything about him who are like, how dare PBS be mean to Alex Jones and Roger Stone and Donald Trump and then maybe check him out. Yeah. And Alex can pretend it says whatever he wants. Of course. And I'm a victim. Bat viruses.
Starting point is 00:51:47 Fund the Info War. Toss it in there. So Alex starts rambling about Alexander Solznitsyn of Gulag Archipelago fame. Sure. And I don't know. This is sad. Well, the Washington Post says front page.
Starting point is 00:52:01 Anyone that doesn't submit to us will serve prison time. Oh, with anti for jail guards. You know, I think I'll just go ahead. We love guarding jails. And that's all I'm going to say. I just, you know, I guess, oh, I said, I'd read this. I've already lost my arms. Anders Solznitsyn quote.
Starting point is 00:52:23 Let me just say this. We're funded by you. If you need water filtration, we've got the best price you're going to find air filtration. Best you're going to find. Oh, boy. Panic. Cell.
Starting point is 00:52:34 Yeah. I'm going to, I'm going to ramble about Antifa jailguards at Gulags. I remind myself of Solznitsyn. I don't know where that quote is. I've misplaced my Solznitsyn quote. Guys, we got water filtration. Fuck.
Starting point is 00:52:50 I didn't get lunch today. Antifa guard. What are you? I'm ideologically opposed to you being in here in the first place. Get out of here, buddy. Come on, man. Yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:53:04 Anyway, Alex, like I told you at the beginning of this episode, about three quarters of the way into this, I lost my will to live. And that's largely because Alex is rationalizing the killing of a protester based on the fact that he had a gun that Alex is claiming he was pointing at people, but the photograph that he provides as evidence of this doesn't show that, which really, really hurts his Second Amendment
Starting point is 00:53:26 positions. And then he has a guest. But I was just returning from New York where another great family spent a fortune to get me and the good congressman, Clay Higgins, to a pro law enforcement rally, a pro law and order rally. The biggest one, it was purported to be the biggest pro law enforcement law and order rally in the history of America.
Starting point is 00:53:52 They were expecting over 10,000 people because Uncle Ted was going to bring my six-string weapon of mass construction and perform a fire-breathing banner for the troops and boost their morale at a time where the Marxist Democrat Antifa MS-13 Black Lives Matter monsters have destroyed the morale of the law enforcement sheepdog heroes across this country. So Ted Nugent's on to complain about losing a gig. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:54:21 That's what's going on. You know what's terrible? What's that? A few days ago, I watched an interview that he did. I was trying to think of another reverse situation. I watched an interview he did with Eric bowling. Oh, wow. Worlds collide.
Starting point is 00:54:37 I will tell you something right now. Word for word. He said that on one America. Oh, yeah. Word for word. That's practice. That's that's a Black Lives Matter MS-13. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:49 Anybody not white. Yeah. Yeah. So he lost a gig at a pro cop rally. It was a rally that was in Long Island and it's a scratch fever. Come on. Come on.
Starting point is 00:55:01 That's not bad. That's not bad. I'll take five points. So that rally still went on just as planned. But people were mad about Ted Nugent being booked to appear. So they complained and his invitation was no longer there. Yeah. The organizers released a statement saying, quote, the
Starting point is 00:55:16 purpose of this demonstration is to bring people together in support of the men and women of law enforcement. While we wholeheartedly appreciate anyone who supports the men and women in blue, including Mr. Nugent, the controversy over his appearance is contrary to the objectives of this demonstration. Who knows exactly what it was about Ted Nugent that made him unpalatable for people?
Starting point is 00:55:35 Honestly, could have been any number of things. Could have been. From the accusations of him assaulting minors to his songs about how he likes to assault minors. There are those. Hard to say. Yeah. But since Ted is on our radar again, now's a great time to
Starting point is 00:55:48 learn about more about why Ted Nugent's a complete pile of shit. We've discussed a lot of his creepy, very clear indications that he's a predator. Like his song titled, I'm a Predator. That one is a little bit dammit. Yeah. That was a little dammit.
Starting point is 00:56:02 Let's look at some of his thoughts now, Jordan. You were in court and they were like, how do you enter your play? Hold on. Before you respond with guilty or not guilty, we're going to play this song. I'm a predator and you think about what you're going to say. That's like imagining the defense lawyer for sea murder.
Starting point is 00:56:20 He was on trial for homicide. Yeah. What's your client's name? Okay. I'd like to point you to the sea murder there. You take the sea on my name and you're left with a homicide. Right. It's going to be an uphill battle.
Starting point is 00:56:34 All right. So I'm going to struggle with this. Mr. Nugent, did you write the song jail date? Play the fifth. So I'd like to talk to you now, Jordan, about Ted Nugent's thoughts about apartheid. Sure. Great.
Starting point is 00:56:48 I'm sure they're fantastic. What is he? Elon Musk. Now Christ interesting article that interviewed Ted Nugent back in 1990 from the Detroit free press and man, this stuff has not aged well. Oh boy. As it happens back in 1990, Ted Nugent had a ranch in South
Starting point is 00:57:04 Africa that he used for bow hunting. Really? Yep. What? Yep. He's that guy? Oh yeah. Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 00:57:13 Did he write a song called I love Rhodesia too? Might as well. Christ. When asked about his ranch and apartheid, Ted said, quote, my being there isn't going to affect the political structure. Besides apartheid isn't that cut and dry. All men are not created equal. Oh boy.
Starting point is 00:57:29 The preponderance of South Africa is a different breed of man. Whoa. Okay. So let me let me let me. Actually, you know what? Let's point this. Let's get this down to the very brass tax stand.
Starting point is 00:57:41 All right. Apartheid is incredibly cut and dry. In fact, you could say that this is a situation that is a black and white issue. You're either good or bad on a part time. I mean zero middle ground. I mean he said literally right after that. All men are not created.
Starting point is 00:57:59 Exactly. So it's not. It's not. There's no murky understanding. He literally understands. I thought that that truth was self-evident. Well, hold on now. One second.
Starting point is 00:58:09 Not in South Africa. So he says the preponderance of South Africa is a different breed of man. And then he follows that up by saying quote. I mean that with no disrespect. God damn it. Somebody somebody god damn it. Nugent went on to say quote.
Starting point is 00:58:24 They are still people of the earth, but they're different. They put on. They put bones in their noses. They still walk around naked. They wipe their butts with their hands. And when I kill an antelope for them, their preference is the gut pile. That's what they fucking want to eat.
Starting point is 00:58:38 The intestines. These are different people. You give them toothpaste. They fucking eat it. I hope they don't become civilized. You know, yeah, you know. The article also mentions that his upcoming tour of Japan is called the quote.
Starting point is 00:58:51 Jap Wack tour, which Ted explains thusly. Oh, no quote. I mean no disrespect. Okay. Now stop right there. Here's how you end that. He says that. He says that a bit.
Starting point is 00:59:01 The end. Yeah. I mean no disrespect and no follow-up. No follow-up. Whenever I say N. Oh, no. In the next sentence. No.
Starting point is 00:59:09 It's a hard and well boy hard and well boy quote. I mean no disrespect. I'm sure the Japanese are wonderful folks and if I'm with a bunch of guys, we may talk about babes in a certain way. I use the word and a lot because I hang around a lot of ends and they use the word and and I try to use words that communicate. I'm a fun guy. Not a sexist or racist.
Starting point is 00:59:31 I'm a sexist. I'm a sexist. I'm a sexist. I'm a sexist. I'm a fun guy. Not a sexist or racist. Man everybody who's bitchin about cancel culture now right needs to go back in time and see what people got away with which is
Starting point is 00:59:47 the same shit they're getting away with now. Yeah. And I mean every time that I said and in the article it's straight up saying straight hard ours. Yeah. Weirdly later in the article Ted explains that whack is specifically a word that he uses to describe killing animals and that his quote hunting buddies are known as Whackers.
Starting point is 01:00:04 Nugent of course is the whack master. Seems like Jap whack becomes a really weird name for a tour given that context. I mean no disrespect. Also for all of his false and faux performative patriotism this passage about Nugent dodging the draft seems pretty ironic quote Nugent wanted no part of Vietnam. He claims that 30 days before his draft board physical he stopped
Starting point is 01:00:29 all forms of personal hygiene. The last 10 days he ingested nothing but Vienna sausages and Pepsi and a week before his physical he stopped using the bathroom all together virtually living inside his pants caked with his own excrement stained by his urine. That's spectacle one Nugent to deferment he says though the free press was unable to verify his draft status. I think he's full of shit.
Starting point is 01:00:52 But also also pun and absolutely. I'm sure. But also that's a pretty novel way to dodge the draft. I think it's awful to be totally clear. I think it's okay to not want to go to war and to not want to be part of the draft. If they brought back the draft at any point in my life I would not submit myself to it but I also wouldn't try to subvert the
Starting point is 01:01:13 process by shooting my pants a bunch. They're countless conscientious objectors who for ethical or religious reasons refuse to participate in any kind of war and sometimes they pay a penalty for it but they accept that as part of their political statement. What Nugent did was be a cowardly dick and the idea that you would look back on this and brag about it as an adult is pretty sad.
Starting point is 01:01:33 Don't forget he is a cowardly dick covered in his own shit. That's true. So he's not he's not going up the ladder. Yeah and into a part. Okay. Okay. All right. So if I understand this correctly a sex predator racist
Starting point is 01:01:51 misogynistic on top of being you know even even worse who owns property in South Africa gets to become famous rich and spend the rest of his life in the public eye because he wrote a because he's a one hit wonder that seems unfair. I think fastball should be still around if we're measuring by this shit. Yeah and I think you've kind of touched on my main point and that Ted Nugent is a racist predatory monster who is the
Starting point is 01:02:22 brain of a weapons obsessed child and hasn't even ever had an album or single reach the top 10 on the charts and has never had a number one single and his highest peaking album was Scream Dream which reached number 13 40 years ago. He's a worthless sack of shit who's not even relevant in his primary occupation which is music. So yeah it makes sense that people wouldn't want him booked at an event regardless of the events character.
Starting point is 01:02:46 He makes your event look bad because if he's there it implies that you paid him to be there and if you paid him to be there you're an asshole whiny as Ted coming on info wars to complain about losing a gig because of his long and very overt past of being a piece of shit so toxic that even a pro cop rally has some reservations about being associated with him. Yeah what a bunch of babies all a tab all Ted's are bad Ted Wheeler Ted Wheeler Ted Nugent.
Starting point is 01:03:14 Three three for three on Ted. I'm sure there's some good Ted's out there. What about the movie Ted movie Ted not good. I mean better off Ted was pretty good. That was pretty clever to come. Yeah. Drop dead Ted. That is the I don't think that's the one was Martin Shorten
Starting point is 01:03:29 dropped at Ted. No that was Clifford. Oh gotcha. So it wasn't that the pro cop rally the rejected Ted per se although they and the organizers were seemed all right with it once he wasn't coming. Yeah. The issue came down to something else and that is the Ted
Starting point is 01:03:49 Nugent got threatened by Andrew Cuomo. And I literally was threatened by Mary by Governor Cuomo and his handpicked Marxist Health Department Nazis that if I set foot in New York to play the national anthem and thank the law enforcement heroes if I dare enter his communist New York area I would be put under house arrest and quarantine for 14 days thereby destroying the only chance to have a morale boost by the heroes of the NYPD and boy are they pissed.
Starting point is 01:04:32 I'm pretty sure that Andrew Cuomo didn't personally threaten Ted Nugent. In this article in the Long Island Press they say that Nassau County executive one of them said quote the reason for his absence Ted is that because he was quote reminded of New York state's quarantine orders and Nassau County's protest protocols travelers to New York from over 30 states with significant community coronavirus spread are required to
Starting point is 01:04:56 quarantine for 14 days per Governor Cuomo's executive order. Yeah. I'm not specific to him. It's he's from Texas. This is a convenient way for everyone involved to save face. The quarantine rules exist and Nugent is coming from Texas which isn't at risk state currently so the state of New York covers their base.
Starting point is 01:05:14 The city council in Long Island obviously didn't want Ted coming so they solve that problem. The rally organizers realized that they were going to look real bad if they have Ted at the rally so that solves that problem for them. Ted probably would have liked to go but this is just as good he gets to play the victim and yell about Cuomo trying to personally bar him from the state.
Starting point is 01:05:32 Totally. Everybody gets what they need out of this situation and no issues are really resolved when there is a big issue that needs to be addressed here and that is that Ted Nugent has no place in adult society if he wants to live out his days being a racist creep shooting arrows at animals privately. I can't stop him from that but there's no reason that anyone should ever accept the notion that he's a voice worth
Starting point is 01:05:53 having in the public sphere. His music career is embarrassing compared to his contemporaries and his existence as a political figure is basically just him yelling that Obama needs to suck his rifle. At this point people need to treat him like who he is. A loser info wars guest. If some event is booking him it's not because he's a draw or
Starting point is 01:06:11 because he's good at guitar it's a political statement. They're supporting his brand of racist extremist politics so quite honestly anytime Nugent has a show anywhere it should get protested. He shouldn't be welcome as a public figure full stop. Like he has worn out his welcome long ago. Agreed. And he should be treated as such.
Starting point is 01:06:30 Like anytime someone has him on it's not because Wango tango rocks. No. Like I mean like sure if he's doing a concert or something maybe that's not a political statement for like the some theater to book him on his tour or whatever then you know whatever it is what it is. But for this rally to have him come do the national anthem
Starting point is 01:06:54 that's different. I think I completely disagree with you on that. I might also. Yeah I mean if it was a comic and they were a racist piece of shit predator and they got booked at a club I'd be like you're making a political statement which is that it's okay to be a comic and be a racist. You may be right.
Starting point is 01:07:18 You may be right. Yeah I hadn't unpacked that. Fuck you. Yeah that might be true. I just hadn't really you know I guess I hadn't given a whole story to the the music the music business. Yeah that's fair how that works. But yeah yeah maybe maybe it is more of a every everything
Starting point is 01:07:33 Ted Nugent does. He should just be yelled into bow hunting privately for the rest of his life. He should be called a whiny loser every time he walks out his door. Yeah everybody should remind him of him banning guns at his own concert. It's just like yeah you're a whiny loser who doesn't believe
Starting point is 01:07:51 in your own bullshit. Yeah shut the fuck up and go away. Yeah yeah and and stop it with this bullshit to where he's trying. You could hear it in that last clip and in this next clip it gets even worse where it's just like the real victims are great who don't get to hear me play the national anthem. Off my buddy flew me back home and I got out my bow and arrow
Starting point is 01:08:09 and my fishing rod and I spent a wonderful couple days with my dogs on my my miraculous paradise here in Texas. So they didn't hurt Ted Nugent at all. I mean are you kidding me. What can they possibly do to me and I'll tell you what nothing but you know what they hurt. They hurt the spirit and the morale of the New York Police Department heroes and their families.
Starting point is 01:08:31 Well that's the next thing is their open season. The left wants to brutalize the police not to get rid of them but to take them over. Oh no what will the police morale be without Ted Nugent playing. I think the phrase I'm looking for is delusions of grandeur. I think that's the one I'm looking for. I think it's partially that and I think it's partially also
Starting point is 01:08:52 just like this is a way I can acceptably talk about this and not sound whiny what I need. I lost a gig like a grand. Okay. Yeah. You know who's who's the victim here. I didn't get a check and people didn't get to enjoy my sweet licks.
Starting point is 01:09:07 You know who's the real victim here at the end of the day once again South Africans. What the fuck is he doing. I don't know if he still has that ranch that article was from 1990 but I mean fuck him. Yeah. I would say I would say that the fact that I can't find any articles that are like Ted Nugent profusely apologizes for
Starting point is 01:09:25 equivocating and supporting apartheid saying it's not a cut and dry issue. That leads me to believe that he maybe didn't have a personal evolution on the subject. Very much doubt it. Not good. So here he Ted Nugent is expressing his belief that a bunch of different groups they're all really just the same thing.
Starting point is 01:09:44 By the way there's no difference between Democrats, Antifa, MS 13, the Jihadists and the Black Lives Matter. They're all they're dedicated to destroy the very Well that's my next question for you. We only got you one more segment here and I appreciate the time on this Sunday. They're all the same man. All these groups are the same.
Starting point is 01:10:04 Cool. Very dumb. Very dumb. Very stupid child. What a fucking moron. Yeah. It should not be taken seriously in any capacity. Get him out of here.
Starting point is 01:10:13 So he starts talking about this new initiative that he has called hunt the vote Earth Defense Force. No. That'd be great. Yeah. Hunt the vote. Hunt the vote. Which sounds fucking scary.
Starting point is 01:10:25 Well in the 90s we had rock the vote and now here we are. It sounds like he's going to go to inner city precincts and like voting centers with a bow. It sounds like when you say hunt the vote. No. It doesn't sound like the same as rock. So what he's going to do is calmly track individual voters and get them in his sights and then convince them to vote for
Starting point is 01:10:50 Trump. Well I mean using rhetoric that he's very good. The issue that I find is like hunt the vote is you know the object of hunt is the thing that is killed and is attacked. Yes. Rock of the vote when you rock something you're making it better and you're rocking the venue. You're having a great time.
Starting point is 01:11:09 Yeah. Yeah. So when you say rock the vote it's kind of like oh we're making. We're having a good time. Yeah. We're going to get mud honey to play. Everybody's going to have fun.
Starting point is 01:11:17 Hunt the vote. Fucked up. I'm going to fucked up Brandon. Here's what I'm going to call it the most dangerous vote. I think this is very dumb. I think it's also I went and I checked out their website and does not seem to be working. How's it going?
Starting point is 01:11:31 They want people to pledge to vote for sure. And what it is is obviously a data gathering operation because it's just like okay we want people to put in their personal information and then pledge to vote obviously so you can contact them with a mailing list or something right and their their goal is five hundred thousand. It's like I don't know if you're going to swing the election with that.
Starting point is 01:11:54 You're going to sell a lot of email addresses with that. They were at like 10 percent or something when I checked. I don't know how long it's been but yeah it doesn't seem to be getting the traction that they're looking for. Not good. But so Ted tries to promote this and these people need to just stop referring to history. It's not good.
Starting point is 01:12:10 It sounds ridiculously simple because it is hunt the vote. Or just register and get to the front lines. This is the Alamo. We need to shoot Santa Ana's men. Oh my God. The vote. Or absolutely. We've got to go to break.
Starting point is 01:12:27 We'll do one more segment again. Please come back for longer in the week because things are so hot. You lost the Alamo. The Alamo was a failure. So now they're being hunted by the Mexican army in this situation. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:12:41 Okay. But I mean you got to stop being like this is the Alamo because you're just saying we're going to lose. Yes. And one of the main reasons we're going to lose is that we shouldn't have been there in the first place. We have invaded not our territory. Poorly managed this situation.
Starting point is 01:12:56 Put absolute idiots in charge. Colonel Travis is a drunk. And now it's time to really step up. This is a good metaphor for us. Oh boy. Yeah. I feel like they could do better. Maybe they can't actually.
Starting point is 01:13:10 It's more apt than you would expect. Yeah. So Ted gets to talking about the state of the world and the things that are happening around the country. Sure. And I just felt like hey Ted your racism might be shown a little bit here. But I was there in 67 when all my buddies.
Starting point is 01:13:29 He's talking about in Detroit. Yeah. Black musician friends. We always jam together and collaborate. We always hung out together. And I had friends of every imaginable ethnicity and color and creed and walk of life. And then in 67.
Starting point is 01:13:42 Oh you have black friends. They burnt down the city. The writers went berserk and burnt down their own city. This beautiful architecture. So I have a good perspective of the goodwill and the positive brotherhood that existed amongst all of us in Detroit. And then a friend's segment went nuts much like precursors to Antifa then I was in Los Angeles in 92 when the Rodney
Starting point is 01:14:06 King bird came in and once again the idiots committed cultural suicide and destroyed their own neighborhoods and lives and viciously attacked and murdered people. So what I'm seeing today it breaks my heart to admit but it's it's bigger and worse and uglier and more evil. That just is is absurd. I mean like what you have there is a guy who's very committed to not recognizing what came right before those things.
Starting point is 01:14:34 No no no. Not interested. Not interested in discussing. I was there in 67 and randomly. What happened for no reason at all. What happened in the early 60s. What happened in Detroit that led up to that. That right.
Starting point is 01:14:47 What happened in the lead up to the LA riots. I don't know what happened in the lead up to the situation that we're in now. What is the larger conversation that these flash points exist within just can't be interested in any of that at all. Or are you just wanting to look at this from an optics perspective and go black people burn their own things.
Starting point is 01:15:06 Yeah. Honestly no what he's what that what he's saying is like every now and again black people act crazy. Yeah. And I don't know why. No that is that is the presentation that he's putting forth and it's like yeah. Wow.
Starting point is 01:15:20 Yeah. Yeah. So Ted Nugent coming on if he had any principles and believed in anything that he purports to believe in he should be dressing down Alex about his argument earlier in the show about a guy having a gun at a protest somehow making it like oh well you get shot. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:40 But it turns out Ted Nugent also seems to think that if you have a weapon you're no longer a protester. They call them peaceful protesters. Peaceful protesters don't destroy buildings. They don't have Molotov cocktails. They don't kill retired cops and they don't wear helmets and have weapons on them. That's not a peaceful protest.
Starting point is 01:16:03 Well I mean the retired cop in St. Louis we have a conversation about how that was a murder and that wasn't necessarily protesters. There's a larger situation going on there but leaving that aside when he says there if you have weapons you're not a peaceful protester that news about every Second Amendment protest that has ever happened. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:24 Is he saying that it is okay for us to en masse kill them because they are walking around with guns or that it's fine if we did. No. I mean he's articulating a point very poorly because he doesn't recognize what the implications of his statements are. He doesn't recognize that condemning these protesters
Starting point is 01:16:42 for having weapons or being armed opens up the criticism to everything that he supports. Yeah. No. He just doesn't recognize it because it doesn't matter to him. He doesn't care. This isn't a principle to him.
Starting point is 01:16:56 It is a weapon that he can use against the people he doesn't like. Yep. That is all like it's I mean he doesn't care about the Second Amendment. No it's disgusting. Like that is that is that God if we lived in a reasonable world every time he went on a show they would just play that
Starting point is 01:17:14 clip and be like so you don't believe in the Second Amendment at all and he'd be like and then they'd kick him off. That's it. If you believe in nothing. Yeah. If your threshold for like what is or is not a peaceful protester is I mean like we could take the damaging property
Starting point is 01:17:32 stuff and discuss whether or not that's violence. I don't want to have that conversation with Ted Nugent. Nope. But it is a conversation that bad paid conversation. What's a conversation you could have where people could have differences of opinion. Sure. I would not say the damage to property is inherently violence
Starting point is 01:17:47 but we that is it may leaving that aside. His threshold seems to be that if you have a weapon you're not a peaceful protester and I would I would challenge him on that. I would challenge him on that. I would like to see you debate him and again is now nine days. God damn it Rand Paul Rand Paul has refused to debate.
Starting point is 01:18:07 You know what now I want to hear what Rand Paul thinks about Rand Paul going to defend the Second Amendment or is he going to go along like a coward with Alex Jones and noted predator racist monster Ted Nugent or noted predator racist monster Alex Jones as well. I don't know. I don't know. We'll see Rand Paul.
Starting point is 01:18:27 We will see if you get the guts coward coward. So anyway now that Ted Nugent has fully embarrassed himself and indicated that he is also a gun grabber we he leaves and that's where I kind of was broken in terms of my interest in this. Like I don't know. You lose a little steam whenever one of these like seemingly like the pillars.
Starting point is 01:18:51 Yeah. The keystone seemed to fall. You know like guns. Yeah. Some people shouldn't have them. Yeah. No. It's it's totally I feel like a parent like I'm not mad at
Starting point is 01:19:03 you disappointed. Yeah. You have failed on a level that I cannot even comprehend and you didn't need to. You had no reason to. You didn't need to. You could have just not talked about it. Sure.
Starting point is 01:19:14 You could not talk about it or you could talk about it in a more robust way. You could talk about it with more a little bit more nuance where you can protect your gun position while at the same time condemning protests. If you so need to. Right. You don't need to come at this if you're Alex from a
Starting point is 01:19:28 position of this guy had a gun and that justifies him being shot. Yeah. You don't need to. The principle is so gun absolutist the way Alex is it seems dumb. Yeah. It seems that it it it denotes to me a lack of
Starting point is 01:19:49 solidity. That's not the right word. Solidarity. No. Well certainly. But just foundation. Yeah. That's the thing I'm trying to evoke.
Starting point is 01:20:01 Yeah. There's a lack of anything that's grounding these arguments that he has. They're all just branches with no trunk. Yeah. It's it's it's a bummer. It's bummer. In a certain sense I kind of so here my my armchair bullshit on
Starting point is 01:20:18 this is part of me thinks that because they live through Obama and they're so racist and they weren't allowed to just say we hate him because he's black and we don't like that. They made every argument in bad faith. Every argument they made was in bad faith. So they only know how to make bad faith arguments at this point. You know they don't have anything that they believe in
Starting point is 01:20:45 because what they believed in during Obama's years was just we don't like him because he's black and you're not allowing us to say that. So we have to make up some bullshit about he's grabbing guns. That's a bad faith argument. And so now when we're in this situation I don't even know if he probably doesn't believe that if you were to maybe he
Starting point is 01:21:04 does maybe he doesn't but if you were to sit him down and just really get to the point in private it's like you know you're making a bad faith argument to these people in order to justify the violence that you want. Yeah. You know. Yeah. I can see where you're coming from but I disagree with you.
Starting point is 01:21:22 Yeah. I would say that maybe people got accustomed to this kind of behavior throughout Obama's years. But the stuff you're talking about those same sorts of arguments predate Obama. Yeah. So it's not like they're right. It's not like they had some kind of vested interest in
Starting point is 01:21:38 masking their racism behind gun grabbing arguments. Well I mean the 90s you can just say that shit. Yeah. I mean the idea of Clinton coming for guns or like Alex making terror storm documentaries in the Bush years. Right. Like those things pre existed right now. Fascists always make bad faith arguments.
Starting point is 01:21:59 If you want if you want to like dig incredibly deep into the fertile soil of the anti communists. Sure. The terrifying crossroads of anti communism anti multiculturalism pro corporate interests that intersect there. I think you could probably make a certain case that a lot of these arguments that do go back to older times. Sure.
Starting point is 01:22:35 They do have a racist element to 100 percent. But the way that you're describing it with like trying to make up for arguments that they had that were bad faith about Obama. I don't think that works. I mean I more like they just don't even know how to have a an honest discussion like they genuinely just can't do it. They just filtered through this prism of bullshit.
Starting point is 01:22:56 You know possibly. I would say that there's also a possibility that they don't see a point in having a real you're probably 100 percent. You know like yeah there is a utility and clearly it works. Yeah. Do bullshit. Yeah. You're so maybe they just don't see the like a why.
Starting point is 01:23:19 Why have a foundation anymore. It doesn't matter. No. On a fundamental level you are getting somewhere closer to the truth than I can imagine. Maybe. But my point isn't to say that I'm right. I'm saying that like there are other options.
Starting point is 01:23:33 No. Totally. What you're saying could be right or it could be an entirely like like it's a red herring. Yeah. Yeah. You you your theory that they can't have a conversation about the like anything real possible.
Starting point is 01:23:51 Also could be possible that there could like completely aware of how trivial and bullshit. Yeah. And there's like why try. Yeah. Well I don't know. I don't know what the reality. Why try.
Starting point is 01:24:02 You know trying really makes it tough on you. Yeah. And the thing that makes it also really difficult is the like we just have these public facing pieces of information to go from and quite frankly this show would look exactly the same if Alex was incapable of doing a good job or knew that it's expedient and easier for him to do a bad job. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:22 It would look exactly the same. So I have no fucking idea. Yeah. That's fair. I know that Alex is stupid but I know that he's also not as stupid as like like the Carpe don't who knows if he's even what I mean is he's not he's not as stupid as like the caricature that you could have of him based on how stupid he sure.
Starting point is 01:24:43 Sure. So anyway Ted Nugent's appearance appearance on the show took away my will to live and we just have a few clips left of the rest of the show. Alex is excited because Joe Rogan has fully announced now that he's moving to Texas. He's free. And unfortunately Alex also has to recognize that like yeah
Starting point is 01:25:04 Rogan has come out and said that stuff that I said about him wasn't true. Now it is true that I told you he was going to move to Texas and he is. He is. But I did make up some stuff. Really. He admitted it.
Starting point is 01:25:17 I made up. What a son of a. But I don't know Spotify went completely crazy when Joe told me I could say all that stuff that I kind of elaborated on it and kind of. Elaborated. Added some hyperbole probably. Because you know what Joe said.
Starting point is 01:25:34 Yes. While he's sharing up the YouTube, sharing up the sensors. The stuff he told me but I'm not going to pontificate on that right now. Probably smart because you just said you lied. Yeah. That's a good idea. I.
Starting point is 01:25:48 He said he probably lied. I probably. I probably. I probably made up some stuff. All right. Because Joe Rogan is one of the only things that makes me relevant to people who aren't completely nuts. And I really want to play up my connection to him.
Starting point is 01:26:05 He's basically my best friend. I'm going to be honest with you when people talk. I only hear what I want to hear. So it's really hard for me to relay information from other conversations to you because it's all made up in my head. Yeah. It's very weird, very weird. So Alex is selling a new product that isn't actually a new
Starting point is 01:26:25 product, but he's trying to pretend it's a new product. You think he's trying to clear out the warehouse separately. Ladies and gentlemen, we've got a solution to tyranny. It's only one part of the overall solution and it funds the info war. These. Privacy pockets I have are almost 100% effective. We've tested them out.
Starting point is 01:26:41 They're one of the best units out there. Sometimes right up next to a cell tower, it'll still penetrate through and be able to ping your cell phone, track your location and steal your data. Stop Bill Clinton. What Hillary Clinton and their global initiative with the NIH and the UN WHO running the contact tracers or beta testing in blue cities that are going to come with regulations as early
Starting point is 01:27:03 as next year. They already got your data. The apps are already on your phone. Whether you take them off or not, Google and Apple admit doing it together four months ago. Everything is tracked. And so when you put your phone in this, it's a way to control it.
Starting point is 01:27:17 It's a way to not let it run your life. It's a way to not let it dominate you. And it slips right in your pocket. It's a thin Faraday cage. They have units out there that are similar to this one or the same unit yourself for $35 online. Amazon sells them for like $22. And you know, they always try to have the lowest price.
Starting point is 01:27:36 1995. These cost us almost $12 a piece. So the eight bucks comes into funder operation. But I want you to get these and think about how evil these cell phones are. They're so evil. These cell phones. This is not a new product for Alex, but he's acting like it is.
Starting point is 01:27:51 He had this was like a junior varsity product that he'd have like Owen sell. Sure. Is the block it pocket that he had for like a while, but he wouldn't dignify it with like pushing on his show. Unless it was like a really heavy 5G period. Like, you know, we're really going hard. Right.
Starting point is 01:28:11 Right. Or like me. I don't know. I would imagine that like when Snowden went on Rogan, maybe Alex tried to sell some. All day. Yeah, but it's not. I hear this and I'm like, wow, you're really trying to move
Starting point is 01:28:23 those. Yeah. Okay. Gotta get rid of them. Yeah. Gotta get rid of them. That seems very sad to me. Yeah, not good.
Starting point is 01:28:31 No. Alex wouldn't even waste his time trying to sell it in the past. Exactly. When it was like 70 16. No. He's like, yeah, the kids love their cell phones, but I do is I have a Faraday cage man.
Starting point is 01:28:44 Yeah. You got a product now. Alex relegated to nobody listening gets to sell it. That's bad. Yeah. So now Alex is doing it himself, which whatever. So one thing I think is really interesting is that Alex really wants to insinuate himself with the story about
Starting point is 01:29:01 Sinclair and Eric Bowling. Right. He wants everyone to know that like, Hey, maybe I'm the source on this story. Sure. Maybe. Sure. Sinclair, bigger than Fox News, thousands of stations
Starting point is 01:29:13 across the country says it will postpone and rework segment featuring conspiracy theory about Fauci with the Eric Bowling show. I personally sent bowling articles about this in the last few months. He knew all about it already. And what did he cover? NIH.gov NIH lifts funding pause on gain of function
Starting point is 01:29:31 research with coronaviruses. Dr. Fauci back controversial Wuhan lab with U.S. dollars for risky coronavirus research at Wuhan lab. Newsweek. Newsweek. Look right there. That's Newsweek. New scientists lab main coronavirus triggers debate.
Starting point is 01:29:47 Obama and Fauci transfer weaponized coronavirus Chimera from bats to China to 2015. This is the reality. That might have been editorializing there. But what you see is the way that he covers news. He just reads headlines and then starts rambling about stuff that isn't in those articles course that you might assume could be in the article based on the headline or the warped
Starting point is 01:30:10 version of the headline that Alex is editorializing. No. He essentially plays whose line is it anyway every day. Somewhat. Yeah. But with like really fucked up topics. Yeah. I am.
Starting point is 01:30:22 Anti screams about murder a lot. Yeah. No. That was a that. Ryan Stiles was big on murder for a while there. Colin mockery was the one who would defame people. That's why it's on the air. That would do it.
Starting point is 01:30:38 I look. I know it happens all the time. But whenever he screams it like that's Newsweek as a way of legitimizing the paper. Yeah. Like everybody's like see even Newsweek is saying it is him saying that's a reliable news source. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:00 And all it really does is highlight how unreliable he is. Exactly. Yeah. And this isn't my dumb ass. Exactly. Exactly. 100 percent. I know you know that I make shit up.
Starting point is 01:31:10 Listen. But Newsweek has editors. So I'm not linking to a video of this show. I'm linking to a real paper. Now if they print anything I don't like their fake news bullshit controlled by the globalists. Yeah. Obviously they're still more trustworthy than me.
Starting point is 01:31:25 Undoubtedly. Yeah. So we have one last clip here and it's Alex talking about how he thinks that deaths are going to go up soon. Wow. And I think he's trying to get ahead of this. Right. Because that might be something that he's going to have to
Starting point is 01:31:38 spin. Yeah. And this is a weak effort. The cases are skyrocketing. The deaths are going way down. I predict they'll go spiking again when the number is coming at the end of the month because July is when the new doctors and nurses come in for their residencies and they call it.
Starting point is 01:31:54 Really. July effect. I get into real statistics. Real information. Real research. The July effect is a real thing that people discuss. Sure. But there isn't really a consensus on whether or not it is
Starting point is 01:32:06 actually a real thing. I'll read to you here from a 2017 article in the Canadian Association of Medicines Journal. Quote. A 2016 analysis in the Journal of Patient Safety pooled data collected between 2011 and 2015 from nearly 120 academic medical centers and more than 333 affiliated hospitals from all geographic regions in the United States.
Starting point is 01:32:29 It concluded that there was no evidence to support the July effect on survival outcomes at US academic medical centers. Studies focused on specific specialties and patient populations have indicated mixed results. Despite this lack of strong supporting evidence, a national survey of US academic leaders and internal medicine published in 2016 in the American Journal of Medicine revealed that most internal medicine residency program leaders believe in the
Starting point is 01:32:55 potential for a July effect. A 2013 article in the Harvard Medical School review says, quote, a new study published October 23rd in circulation by researchers at Harvard Medical School, Stanford University Hospitals, University of Southern California and the Rand Corporation has found that while the so-called July effect is negligible in most cases, it is a serious concern for high risk patients.
Starting point is 01:33:20 That isn't too surprising, given that experienced doctors have more experience in high intensity, dangerous situations, but also the discrepancy isn't something that should make people avoid getting health care in July. This is an issue that only relates to teaching hospitals where there are residents, so that's one factor. Other studies have shown that, quote, patients at teaching hospitals have a lower risk of dying than at non-teaching
Starting point is 01:33:44 hospitals, but in July, the risk at teaching hospitals rose to the same level that patients at non-teaching hospitals faced. So it comes up to about normal. Something tells me that Alex doesn't get into the real research about this. Come on. Instead, maybe like he saw a meme about it and then wrote a
Starting point is 01:34:01 story in his head about cartoonish versions of med students killing people at hospitals every summer. Yeah, that sounds right. Real research. Yeah, like a resident is walking in acting all wacky, you know, like forgetting all kinds of stuff in the surgery. Oh, no. I was supposed to use a scalpel.
Starting point is 01:34:18 I accidentally hit this person with an oversized hammer. Oh, no! I was going to use this, but then, you know, it was a rose and it squirted on his face. It was terrible. Yeah, it's an interesting thing to look at. I mean, because you would expect that for people who are in really serious conditions that maybe are more difficult to
Starting point is 01:34:39 diagnose or difficult to handle, someone who is not as experienced could, even with supervision, could be less capable of taking care of that situation. Sure. You could imagine that being the case. It's possible. From the number of the things that I was reading, the issue seems to be where there can be a problem.
Starting point is 01:35:01 It's administrative. It's not a factor of whether or not residents can handle medical situations. Sure. It's more a circumstance of, like, is this hospital supervising people appropriately? Right. And so, you know, it's not a magical thing where there's,
Starting point is 01:35:20 like, tons more deaths in July. Sure, sure, sure. Alex is just trying to find a way to preemptively explain away why, uh-oh, we might see some spiking deaths soon. Yeah, now it's obviously the July effect. It's not because as we see cases rise and we know that it's kind of a two-week issue kind of deal. The lagging indicator.
Starting point is 01:35:39 Then that would suggest that after we see all these cases rise in a short period of time, we will then see deaths rise appropriately. I predict that if that is the way things go and we see deaths start to rise, this will be Alex's spin. It's a July effect. Which is going to be interesting come August, but we'll see what happens.
Starting point is 01:35:57 Brutal. Anyway, Alex's return to studio was worse than Saturday. It was not a Saturday. Saturday was boring. I long for this Saturday. Saturday was unimpactful and uninspired. Didn't have Ted Nuget. That's a that's a win.
Starting point is 01:36:15 And the loss of Alex's Second Amendment beliefs. Yeah, that's also kind of poof. I know it shouldn't be, but it really does kind of feel like that's a blow. I don't know why. I don't know why. Well, because I think it's one of the last things that isn't racism with him or like white identity.
Starting point is 01:36:31 Yeah, that's true. It's one of the last pillars that is kind of, you know, arguably like I don't believe in gun absolutism in the same way that he does, but I definitely agree with people's right to protect themselves and be armed. Yeah, I mean, I think that there is a valuable point to be made in defending the Second Amendment to what extent that's where the debate is.
Starting point is 01:36:56 Sure. But I think that it's one of the beliefs that Alex has that's so central to himself that you could look at as a political belief that you could have a conversation about all like what's left is white identity and lies and both of those things I think have no place. Yeah. And so one when the crumbling comes of the Second Amendment.
Starting point is 01:37:18 Yeah. You just got. Nothing. You guys like this and lies. Yeah. Well, congratulations Alex. Yeah, you have you almost reached bottom. Now all you got to do is get rid of whiteness and lies and then you're really empty.
Starting point is 01:37:35 Well, and it'll be an interesting one hand clapping. Yeah, it'll be a true empty vessel. Like there's nothing in there. It could be anything could come out. Yeah. Anyway, Alex, you should quit. Absolutely. Please do.
Starting point is 01:37:47 But we'll be back on Friday. We'll see what we got going on then. But until then, Jordan, we have a website. We do have a website. It's KnowledgeFight.com. Yep. We're also on Twitter. We are on Twitter.
Starting point is 01:37:58 It's at KnowledgeFight.net. Go to bed Jordan. Yeah. We're also on Facebook. We are. Look at the right review. And if you could please find a local charity or bail fund especially in your area and help out people doing the
Starting point is 01:38:10 Lord's work. Yep. We'll be back. But until then, I'm Neo. I'm Leo. I'm DZX Clark. Is there a war on Western civilization? Why did you interrupt me?
Starting point is 01:38:19 I was in the middle of saying the nicknames that I used at the end of this episode. I was trying to do my bit and no, there is not a war on the West. Listen, I don't know if I support this. Thanks for holding. Well, Alex, I'm a first name caller. I'm a huge fan.
Starting point is 01:38:33 I love your work. I love you.

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