Knowledge Fight - #471: August 14-16, 2020

Episode Date: August 19, 2020

Today, Dan and Jordan check out how Alex Jones processed the arrest of his employee/contractor Millie Weaver, and the release of her documentary ShadowGate. In this installment, Alex tries to make sense of what's going on and weirdly reaches some of the same conclusions Dan did.

I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys knowledge fight. Dan and George knowledge fight. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. Hey everybody. Welcome back to knowledge. Right. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're couple dudes like sit around. Rick now to beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Oh indeed. We are Dan Jordan. Jordan. Quick question. What's up? What's your right spot today? Well we are now sitting in a new chair. We are sitting in the right spot for me because I spent so much time in an office chair. The old ones that we had were a little bit rickety but you were so kind as to provide us with some new chairs Jordan. So thank you. Good day.

Appreciate that very much. My my butt. And I guess lower back more importantly. Yeah. Yeah. But it's it's intense for someone who spends like as much time as any office worker does on on a chair. Probably more. Yeah. Yeah. It's it's very helpful to have a nice. Most office workers don't have to live, eat and breathe their job or actually know now. Now I feel like you do actually have to do that. Yeah. I didn't really recognize how little support the other chairs had until I sat down in this one. Oh yeah. The ones we had before it is like got actual. I don't know is what is ergonomic me. It contours to you specifically. I feel like it might be that. Yes. Yeah. So that's my bright spot. How about you. My bright

spot is I just finished Ghosts of Sashima. Which is very very good. Of course. We all know that. It's beautiful. We've all read it. It's beautiful. Or watched it. No it's a video game. Oh shit. Yeah. You know the thing everybody knows about. I don't know about this. What is this. It's it's like a open world role playing game. Oh it sounds like you play as a samurai set during the Mongol invasion of Japan on the island of Sashima. And it's it's basically like a fall of the Bushido code in the face of you know all this stuff. But it's so lovingly rendered a Japanese island. It's gorgeous. Oh it's so beautiful. Maybe I'll give this a try. I do like an open world situation. Oh yeah. If

you like Horizon Zero Dawn you're going to love it. Okay. Well you took my recommendation on that. Maybe I'll have to take your yours on this. We passing a football back and forth in deep. So Jordan today we have got an episode to go over. Oh yeah. What we got in front of us right in front of our phases sure is a companion piece to our Monday episode. Oh no. On Monday we went over the very tragically flawed documentary that Millie Weaver put out right after she got arrested. You mean dangerous and arrestable offense of a documentary. No I don't think it's arrestable of an offense because I think that I would say that most of the people who got thrown at them are public figures. Yeah they'll be maybe they wouldn't

be able to reach the standard of actual malice. I mean it was so bad it's an arrestable offense. Oh I mean I think we discussed it was a crime against taste. Yeah certainly a crime against my time. Yeah. And I'd like to apologize to the listeners that it was that long. Yeah. Yeah. We do a documentary right Dan. Oh do we. So we we did that for Monday and in doing so we had to leave aside the Alex Jones end of this. Yes. As Millie Weaver is an info wars. I mean I would describe her as an employee but Alex certainly won't now. We'll get to that in a little bit. Oh wow. She's disowned. She got disowned. We will see over the course of this episode that Alex makes a very serious point of pointing

out that she does not work there. She is an independent contractor and she does whatever she wants. I didn't tell her to do shit. So Alex might be throwing her into the bus a little bit. All right. All right. But yeah. So it's important to see how Alex responds to something like this because obviously it's a close associate of his who's worked. I don't know technically or not. She's worked at info wars for years. Yeah. She's done reports for them forever and she got arrested for a reason. Yeah. And in the midst of that she has put out a documentary. Yeah. And quotes Alec air quotes around that. Alex hasn't seen it when she gets arrested. Of course. No idea what's in it. Why would he he is. He is caught

on his fucking back foot so badly and it's this because he has to or he has a couple of choices. One he can go all in on the conspiracy. Sure. Not having said yeah. Not having seen the documentary. It could be an hour and 20 of him of him being shit on the whole time. He doesn't know that is an option or two. He can be like. I don't know what the fuck is going on. I've never met this person before like the million taking drug money. Yeah. I've never. Whoa. I don't I'll give that back any moment. He doesn't really go either of those routes. But this is this was really funny. This this weekend's Alex Jones coverage. So we're going to be talking about Friday a little video we put out on Saturday and then

Sunday's show. So it's the 14th through the 15th twenty twenty of August. I'm Dan. This is August. All right. Nice. That's why that nice. We'll get down to business on this episode here in a second. But first Jordan let's take a moment to say thank you to some folks who have signed up in our sporting show. That'd be great. Yeah. So first Ray T. Thank you so much. You are now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you Ray. You next Charlie thank you so much. You're now a policy winק, twitter and 3D. Thank you so much. I'm a policy one. Thank you. Very thank you very much. Terry. Thank you. Terry. Much very Oh no. No OK. I'll see myself out. No, you say. Right. Next Michael P. Thank you so

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to go for something. I took a swing and I try so Jordan today. First of all, I'd like to issue a little correction. I mispronounce some stuff on on our on our Monday episode. I bet apparently it's my not instead of my note. Okay, all right, the city and North Dakota. All right. Anyway, Jordan, we got a little thing real quick. Before we get into today's episode, we got to take a look at the mail bags. All right. Recently, you mentioned that you were a gigantic fan of chunky peanut butter. I had hot drinks regarding peanut butter and butters of other stores of all times. You apparently struck a chord with the secret no name walk. Yep. I don't know if I looked in the bag yet, but okay, we got a note here.

I thought Jordan and parentheses and Dan might try these alternative butters. I eat the light blue packet all the time, which is vanilla almond butter. Yes, only sweetened with dates. All right, you spoke disparagingly of almond butter. Yes, now you must try it will be no name walks of vanilla almond butter. All right, and we will see if you could put your let's see if you made this up to keep me quiet for the rest of the show as I like not. No, this is this good peanut as somebody who is in the audio field. I know that eating is disgusting on a mic, but the only thing grosser is probably the idea of someone eating peanut butter on a mic. It's not like trying to get a horse to talk. That's not it's not.

Oh, shit. Oh, oh no. All right, you're giving it a try. I'll get you a paper towel. Um, well, it's pretty good. You jerk. I don't know what you want me to say. All right, let's see all this, all this tough talk. It's runny. It doesn't. It has a terrible after you didn't mix it up well and I didn't mix it up well. Yeah, I suppose that's probably that's why it's spilled on your shoe. That's why it's runny. Yeah, I would imagine. Look, I'm not saying I'm blameless in the execution of this. I feel like your immediate response to it was. It's all right. I think you might like almond butter. I think you're being unfair. I kept it going inside. You've got a you got a pro peanut bias and I don't approve. Love the it's the

texture. Dan, you got to get a crunch. It is nice. I don't actually I like a creamy smooth peanut butter you people. So we have some phone calls, but we're going to get to those at the end of the episode. I'm going to. I decided we should move phone calls to the end of the episode so as to not make a ridiculously long opening like the one that we've just engaged in. No, this isn't. This isn't too long. Okay. It's long. Anyway, here's now a context drop from today's show and shadow gate is the gate of all gates site unseen. Yeah, has not seen it at all. Yeah. So he is going to dip his toe into like oh yeah. Oh yeah. I mean, he has to. Yeah. Well, yeah. Yeah. First, the gate of all gates, the gate of all gates. Oh boy. It's the ninth gate.

Starring Johnny that which gates does it out gate bill? Okay. The ninth. All right. Star shirt. A lot of people posted about the old Nintendo game shadow. There's that probably out gates that. Well, that's two gates. So it is technically the gate of all gates amongst shadows. Yep. All right. So we start here on the 14th and I got tickled by this. You got tickled because Alex claims later that he heard that Millie got arrested before the show started. Sure. So the show starting like this seems really weird. He is fancy free. It doesn't seem to give a shit at all. Andy Griffith and OP. And he said that was basically based on the time you're up north Carolina. A lot more empathy, a lot nicer people, a lot more down to earth folks

that do this kind of buck or run a trot line. America was by and large a berry RFB but we're not anymore. Are we we're new world order cyber punk nightmare dystopia. So Friday's show. Alex begins by whistling into the Andy Griffith theme song and then complaining that America isn't like a fictional town anymore. So Millie is arrested by this point. Alex claims that he knows or he heard that she was arrested before he got on air. Okay. So it's if that's true. He decided. I don't care. Time to time to whistle along with Andy Griffith. He gives no indication that he is aware of Millie's arrest and tell a little ways into the episode. Okay. So I don't actually think that he heard before the show and I'm not. I don't remember exactly the

time of her arrest or if he would like it's even possible if you knew before but he will say later on of course that he heard before the show in retrospect. So I don't care about whether makes him look like a psychopath. Yeah. I don't care whether or not it could be true. I just think it's funny to imagine that like right before getting on air. He finds out that one of his quote unquote employees maybe not got arrested and then you like oh season jail. Well I remember going to pile like that was fun. I was a little tune. So it's just a normal Alex show on Friday on the 14th at the beginning and so like he's just yelling about Black Lives Matter and Antifa and what have you because their empathy has been taken out of them. So we come

back. I'm going to show you the empathy. Black Lives Matter and Antifa attacking an emergency children's hospital while little kids are inside trying to burn it down and I'm going to show you Black Lives Matter going to people's houses and saying give us your money your houses everything. We're here. We support crime. They actually say we support crime and you go. Why would they say that because it's a good question. There's no bottom to it. Is that why the globalist have created zombie like monsters. Yep. Got zombie like monsters going around Black Lives Matter going to come to your house and take it. Take your house. I really am surprised that I I almost missed doing the documentary because I forgot that like that's racist and it's terribly racist

towards Black Lives Matter. Oh yeah. But at least they're not like spinning yarns about how Black people are going to break into your home and steal your shoes and then slap them on your face. You know. Sure. Sure. Like this is still more intense than I appreciate. Yeah. And we're not going to get too much on that tip on this episode because Alex does mostly get into like Millie related stuff. Gotcha. Gotcha. And other sundry issues. But I just wanted to put that in to remind you that this is still an Alex Jones show and so Intel he clearly learns like half an hour into the show that Millie got arrested. Yeah. It's just a normal show. Yeah. He's just going through the motions as normal. Right. And then he finds out that Millie has been arrested and

it's very clear that out of the gate he wants to use this for promotion. Of course. OK. So Millie Weaver and her husband Gavin had been working with people affiliated with folks in the White House. Hugh you name it. And they interviewed former military officers and other whistleblowers including NSA whistleblowers that are very well known individuals and they were making this independent film titled Shadowgate and we'll pull the trailer up in a minute and play it for you. I do this just happened during the short break. They were scheduled to come on yesterday but Millie said they were getting followed. People were breaking on their phones. Stuff was getting taken off their computers. Well they just got swat teamed.

We saw the trailer is up on band on video. They got swat team. We saw that we we can see the video of her being arrested. Yeah. Yeah you can. This is not a this is not a this was more Andy Griffith honestly than anything else. Yeah. All right. She got swat team. Alex. Alex does end up walking that back after he himself watches. Yeah. I was about just as not watching. Of course not. Yeah. So he is. He is reporting this sight unseen. Millie got swat team. Sure. Yeah she was going to come on yesterday. So that would have been Thursday. Right. It's important to keep the timeline straight. Yes immediately. Alex is saying yesterday she was supposed to be on now on Friday not on arrested. Yes. In Ohio. Right. No less. Right. So I don't know how she

would have been on yesterday. She would have been on yesterday. She's a jet setter. Yeah. She's got she's got skills. Anyway this is the first point where Alex tries to cover his ass by being like she doesn't work here. Okay. So Millie and Tori Marans who again has said she can't tell you where all this is where Hillary's emails are where all this is or she'll get arrested. Well they're trying to arrest her right now. So that's what I explained to listeners folks. This isn't a game up here. Okay. We're not up or telling you that we got this or we got that and we don't. I warned Millie and her husband Gavin who I like that their contractors they do their own thing

their own shows they contribute here. I told them I said this is extremely dangerous and I said I don't want to see any of these documents. I already know all this. I don't want to see that shit. I didn't. I already know this stuff. So I don't know as a journalist. I don't want to see this shit. I don't want to be attached to it. I need plausible deniability. Then I will get rid of entirely by announcing that I knew it was illegal. Yeah. Do not work here and I didn't see shit. I love this immediate knee jerk and it leads me to believe that Alex thinks that she might be mixed up in something totally like Alex might think that she's probably dealing with some shady fucking characters probably like oh shit. I got stoned again.

Didn't I do this is a Roger situation all over again. I don't. I don't know what he's imagining she did other that like because it I don't know if he'd seen the documentary. You would know that there's no reason to worry. Yeah. You would know that this is nonsense. Nothing to worry about but Alex. This one is like hey man. I mean Trump needs to get involved. Trump needs to have got a fucking bill bar. Hardener. Pardon. Pardon Millie. Change that org. What if that Susan B. Anthony pardon was actually a million. What if that isn't be Anthony parentheses rainbow snatch exactly. Yeah. So bill bar needs to get involved. Yes. I think Trump needs to immediately

have the have the Justice Department talk to Millie Weaver and the in these other folks because these are real people. I mean they interviewed former high level NSA people and because of the way things are going I guess these folks told them some big secrets folks some big secrets and like I was in arms linked on this because I know how dangerous it is. I said Millie. I mean believe me they they got General Flynn's son to come to our event DC and they had a bunch of defense intelligence people there. I mean this is not this is a serious war inside the government. Millie didn't get fucking Mike Flynn Jr. to come to that CPAC event. We heard it. She is a social engineering day. No Ivan Reiklin brought Michael Flynn Jr. because he's trying to

promote his startup. That's because Millie Weaver first social engineered them and then social engineers Flynn Jr. No Ivan Reiklin had been on Alex's show before in the past and he was involved with the Flynn Defense Fund fundraiser stuff. Sure. And he brought Michael Flynn Jr. And Alex was fucking wasted. Yeah. And Alex did announce entirely what happened. And then Alex almost cried while Michael Flynn Jr. stood by very uncomfortable. It was beautiful. Your dad was going to put the military back at the government. It was a heartfelt and sincere moment. And I hate that you're twisting it into something. Todd and then Alex passed out drunk before his headlining speech. There's that. That one is hard to hard to square. And Rob do had to

close out the die. Oh I'm sorry. Oh and Shroyer. I think Rob do is passed out drunk. Wow. And Shroyer tried to take the reins. One good turn. Yeah. It was that that event was not as full of defense intelligence as much as Alex might might be pretending. Not as much. Anyway at this point Alex plays the video of the arrest and this is where he learns that they did not get swatted. Oh not a swat team. Where's my shoe. I have one shoe here. I was told it was a swat team there. They must have been outside. At least they didn't do the no knock warrant. So we're good. Wait. So no knocks are bad. Apparently yet to yet to mention Breonna Taylor at all. But good. Good. Also good to know that you reported that she got swat team based on zero here

say. Yeah. Someone's saying that. Yeah. So it's true. Right. Good journalistic instincts. Yeah. That's what you do. So here Alex goes back to the well of bad journalistic instincts and reports that she was arrested probably because she had Hillary's email. Sure. I don't understand what's happening right now. All right. So they're saying they have stolen government documents and it's reportedly Hillary's emails all of it. So report he has the courage to put this stuff out. And the Justice Department's all scared. Reportedly it's the emails reported. You know who's reporting that. I think it might be Alex. I think it's yeah. I think it might just be Alex. I think the only person reporting that is. Yep. Alex. Yep. Yeah. So as it turns out the issue

now we know because the arrest indictments have come out. This is this has to do with the family squabble that happened between Millie and her mother who was coming to visit. I have the article here from Cleveland dot com and I'll just read out what the the the main thing here is quote. The report says that McCarron that's Millie's mom came from California to stay with the trio. It wins his Yale Road home earlier this year after her employer in North Hollywood shut down due to the coronavirus. McCarron told deputies that Millie Weaver was swearing at her being mean and calling her names on April 25th and she was texting with a bishop at the Mormon church where she attended about it. The report says McCarron said she decided to record the behavior on her

cell phone and placed it in the back pocket of her jeans while she made a grilled cheese sandwich. The report says Millie Weaver sat at the bar. Charles Weaver that's Millie's brother washed the dishes and Wint stood nearby. The report says the trio began picking on her including talking down to her and quote generally being mean McCarron told deputies. Someone noticed the phone in her pocket and suggested that she was recording. The report says the report does not identify who first made the suggestion. McCarron says Wint told Charles Weaver to quote grab her and the two grabbed her arms. McCarron said Millie Weaver joined in and all three wrestled the mother to the ground. McCarron said according to the report McCarron said she tried to kick and

punch them while they were on her. The cell phone fell out of her pocket and someone grabbed it. The report says McCarron then ran out of the house and said she was going to call the police. She ran to a neighbor's house and dialed 911. The report says that both McCarron and the neighbor saw Charles Weaver run to the edge of the woods behind the house and return almost immediately as McCarron was on the phone with deputies. McCarron suspected her son was trying to get rid of her cell phone. The report says so they ended up. Okay, so he's he's at a traffic stop throwing weed out of his car. Yeah, that's what he's doing. I'm just eating. Just eating it. You gotta eat the phone flush it. Yeah. Okay. All right, so it's a phone. Yeah, it's a so it. Uh huh. Okay, and so they

all like they all get interviewed deputies came and they interviewed Millie her brother and Gavin Wins and they all gave different accounts of what had happened. No, that's because they're a master criminals. There was a bunch of contradictions like Millie had told the deputies that her mother had lost the cell phone two days prior. And it's just it's a load of nonsense. Like there's no coherence to any of their stories like surprising. I really thought that they that that these these people would just really be able to come together and solve this one. And if you read this article, it also mentions that the bishop at the church that her mother was apparently texting with confirmed the story that he was corresponding to her about this. Yeah, like yeah confirm many of

the details that McCarron had relayed as the report says. All right, so Millie and her husband and her brother are all bunch of dicks. I mean we knew that before probably. I mean I didn't know she had a brother before, but now we know that now we know he's also a dick. But yeah, so apparently that explains the burglary because they stole her phone, stole her phone, the obstruction of justice and lying to the investigators. The messing with evidence that's that would be getting rid of the phone. Yeah, and then the domestic violence is tackling your mother pushing your mother. So all the charges make sense because of the stolen documents. Right. I mean that's probably the last salvo that that one has in this case when trying to spin this. Yeah, so after that after the

investigation, apparently the case was referred to the county prosecutor's office and eventually presented to a grand jury made its way through and then now and here warrant is served. Gotcha. So I mean look, I think this all makes total sense. Yeah, I think I don't know. I don't have any reason to believe that there's anything fishy going on here other than you know maybe some unfortunate family dynamics and some people being pretty out of line. Yeah, I don't know. We'll see we'll see what happens with the further information that comes out about it. But at this point, I mean based on having watched the documentary, having looked into all that stuff, I just I don't. I think that there's probably domestic violence incident and

knowing that Millie Weaver. I think that she probably and she had to have known that her mother had called the police on them. Yeah, she had to have known the deputies came and talked to her. Yeah, maybe she didn't know that there was a warrant for her rest, but I would assume that you would. I would assume you'd get notified. Yeah, I have no idea on that though. So I don't know. Anyway, Alex at this point has nowhere to turn except the experts in that documentary. Right. So that's a real bad day. He has Tory. It's a real bad day. Yeah, yeah. So Tory is on and she's she's just got real real soft defense for Millie. And her internet connection was extremely slow. And so it was very difficult for her to even put it together. Everything's

under surveillance. So you guys were about to release this. What do you think is going on? Well, you know, they know that we don't have possession of Hillary's emails. So this is just them trying to get information. I mean burglary. Come on, Alex. What's why wouldn't Millie commit burglary? This is insane. Why would one burgle? I asked you, Jordan. Why would someone burgle? Because there was evidence? I don't know. Yeah, it's not good. But the two of them seem to get along okay. Oh, good. That's that. I think they might have talked in the past before because Tory was the source for the Kentucky election story, which Alex is much more forthright about than Millie was in her documentary, which is weird. But there there's something really strange

going on and that is the day that Millie is arrested and they end up releasing the video. Patrick Berge, the other expert from that documentary is in Austin. This is very weird. That is weird. By the way, he was in town wanting to come here and get on the show yesterday and I just I was waiting for Millie to tell me to pull the trigger. So a lot of crazy stuff going on. Wow. So Patrick was in Austin the day before. Alex has said that Millie was going to come on the day before. Yeah. So there seems to be a timeline of something there. Right. It's unclear. Very sounds like they were going to like they were going to tag team in some way, you know. Yeah, it's hard. It sounds like that's the only or

Patrick Berge sounds also like the guy who might up and hop a flight to info wars and be like, hey, I've got some ideas to give to you about what's really going on. I think that might be where my brain goes. I think he might be going into business for himself a little bit possible. Yeah, it's hard to tell. I think one of the things is you have like a number of chaotic elements and like all of them have an angle. All of them have an idea of what's going on and I don't know. I don't know who the fuck's doing what much like Millie's tight knit family. None of them have yet coordinated their story. Millie is trying to get this documentary out and unfortunately the timing of it also coincides with her allegedly assaulting her mother. Sure

Tori is out there and she's got some agenda of her. Of course Patrick Berge is another rogue actor. Alex is confused, but is also the central hub of all this. He's got a business to protect. He's being sued by everybody. He doesn't know what's going on. So all four of them like hey where the fuck these planets come from all four of them have slightly different interests, but it's all around the same thing. Yeah, it gets really confusing. It's interesting. So I'm not even positive that Patrick Berge and Millie coordinated that they were going to be on the day prior. Sure. I think it's entirely possible that Berge came to Austin and wanted to get on Alex's show and Millie was trying to facilitate that yeah and it somehow didn't work, which how the fuck

wouldn't it work? I have no idea what is happening. He has no standards for who he has on the show. I know. I mean, I guess maybe Berge is just really, really annoying. I get that vibe. Yeah. Yeah, but by Berge's own admission, he goes to places where people are and he ranks them for a long time. I paid four hundred and fifty dollars to meet Dan Bongino out of meet and greet. Yeah, and I told him he had no honor that he blocked me on Twitter. I still owe a hundred dollars to the commissioner's office. I think he paid that. All right. So anyway, Millie was in deep. All right. Sure. She's a deep with intelligence operatives. You know, when I saw in the last few years, Millie, we were in her husband we're working with and some of the people I was like,

look, you're you're in really deep and cloak and dagger stuff. And I said, I personally have decided not to be involved in this and just analyze news and cover it and excuse for why I don't know what's going on. I mean, it was, you know, I mean, we had an event in DC and it was crawling with the not the fake spies. Okay. I mean, there's real Greenberry officers, people all over the place. Ridiculous. Okay. You were fucking three sheets to the wind drunk man. He does actually he always credits Ivan Reichlin as a Green Beret. So that's clearly who he's talking about there. But look, I love this angle. This angle of like Millie was in deep and I don't get into that kind of thing. All I do is report the news. I just have analysis of the news smash cut to the hundred

thousand times. Alex has been like, I talked to everybody. I talked to heads of state. Listen to my show and I get the best. I have the best sources deep within the government, the good guys and intelligence. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I don't get into that, but I don't do the cloak and that secret stuff. All this stuff is FOIA requests that I'm talking about these sources and I make sure I back up that information with public information. All of my FOIA requests are under an assumed name. That's such a great I love. I love when he's clearly trying to make up a narrative as he's going along. His tone of voice is completely different. He's clearly there's and there's a refusal to commit. Oh, yeah, yeah, even about Millie being associated.

I don't know. I don't know nothing. I've never even talked to the deep state. Honestly, I'm just a news guy. This has the on air feeling of that the John Bolton quote. I don't want any part of this drug deal. Yeah, exactly. You are not going to rub this on me. No you take the years Millie. Yeah, you got him. Yeah. So Patrick Berge was in Austin the day before, but surprise of surprises. He's still in Austin. Oh, that is surprising. And so Alex decides he's going to get him in studio. We have one of the whistleblowers here. Patrick Berge. I knew Millie was saying get him on as a guest and then he's here in Austin. So we're going to look at getting him in here. I am not going to post

shadow gate without watching it. It might be a crime in their perspectives to watch it. But you see, we're journalists, so that's always been protected. But now there's no respect. I just found that out. Alex is being uncharacteristically cautious. This is cagey. This is weird. He also seems very confused. Yeah, which I can't blame him for. Like there's a lot being thrown in his lap in the middle of being on air. Here's what I'm getting. Here's the vibe I'm getting. Holy shit. And what did she actually do something? Yeah. Did she read? Did she do journalism and I didn't know about it? That is that is kind of the feeling.

I'm not supposed to deal with reality and Millie is making me deal with it and I don't like it. That's the most generous interpretation of it. It's like, oh my God, one of these like ding dongs that works for me accidentally actually got yeah like a secret clandestine document. Whoops. What's this? Oh no. I want no part of this. We make lies about racism. Come on now. I yell about Snowden. I don't want any part of it. That's one possibility. Another possibility that I considered is that like Alex does such a bad job of like training or getting these people to understand how to do their job of investigative journalism that like he might think that she just broke into a place or something. That's fair. Like

and didn't get a secret document or something. But if she was doing it as an info wars employee that could reflect poorly on him rarer. He wants no part of like of that. So obviously she's a fucking contract. Yeah. Oh yeah. Not an employee. No benefits. No benefits. But look, benefits are hard. They take a lot of money for Alex to pay. And if he doesn't plug, there ain't no money coming in. I didn't plug last hour. I didn't plug this hour. I barely plug yesterday. Almost no money came in. We won't be here in six months at that rate. I'm not bitching. I'm not complaining. But when I tell you, hey, the whole country may not be here. If you want vitamins and minerals and high quality supplements or

books or t shirts, a piece of history. I mean, I'm serious. I hope we win this, but we're going into a gladiatorial fighter where there's a good chance we won't be here anymore, which is kind of a way off my back. I mean, I'm a fatalist. I don't want to be destroyed, but I don't really don't care. I just want to defeat the new world order. I don't care what happens to me. And I think, you know, a lot of us are going to that point, but seems it seems like there's there's two things that I don't understand which is the reality that's being depicted. Like there's one that's if info wars goes down, so does the country. Yes. And then there's another part. I don't care if I get destroyed as long as the country survives. Yes. And I don't know. I don't I don't

know which is the like what he's actually trying to push. I want money. Yes. Okay. Well, I mean, that is behind a lot of it. Yeah. I mean, he needs money because he has to pay the benefits for these employees. I was going to say he has employees, but also Milly isn't one of them. She is not. Again, I can say, oh, info wars reporter arrested. They do contracting for us. I'm not dissing myself from them, but that is exactly what you're doing. Got their own stuff going on. And so I just see what they produce and what they do. And I sponsored them. If he was proud of this, he would be like, not only is she an employee, she is part owner of. Yeah. And not just that, but he's going all in on you need to give us money so I can take care of her

bail funds and he's not her legal fees. No, he's not. He's not doing that. He's not doing that. See, if he cared about it or if he believed in her shit. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. He barely is plugging the go fund me that got set up. The Ezra Levant set up a a go fund me for Milly. Oh man, guys, these people are not your friends. No, Alex, the way is not your friend, Milly. Alex isn't your friend. None of you are friends. The way Alex is behaving is very much like I want Milly to get out of prison. I don't want her to be in prison, but also I don't want anything to look bad for me. So in case she did do something, I want to be careful and I haven't seen this fucking documentary that you made. This might be a fucking nonsense thing. Yeah, I'm not going to post this

without watching. What is she slandering people like it's yeah. Yeah, the documentary is a metaphorical gun fired at a pizza place. Yeah. So Alex basically is operating on Friday on the assumption that she got arrested for stealing documents. Sure. That's pretty much where he is at. Gotcha. And now they've arrested her today. The feds have for a burglary, which you theft. It doesn't say it's very secretive. It's sealed. It's obviously a national security issue. Here is the trailer for shadow gay. It's obviously a national security issue. Obviously, the feds arrested. Obviously, not the feds. Just saw the video clearly swat team by the feds. The feds with the SWAT team conveniently outside. Yeah, very politely waiting for her to put on her shoes.

That sounds right. So Patrick Berge comes in and he has a bit of a version of the story that adds add some layers of complexity. Apparently he was talking to Gavin Wintz just before the arrest. He had just told me that there was going to be a big interview on Monday by somebody with President Trump. And somebody was going to ask President Trump about Shadowgate on Monday. And I said, well, no, they won't. I said, there ain't no way in hell someone's going to let that happen, right? And within a couple minutes of me saying that, within a couple minutes of me saying that, the police were showing up in Gavin's driveway. Millie met them in the driveway. Did she? We saw the video, right? No, I think she did meet them outside. I think so.

Good. I don't know. It's hard to tell from like, I don't know where the clear beginning or end point of that video is. But yeah, I don't care. I don't believe this guy as far as I can throw him. So I don't particularly care about this story. Although there is, the clip is too long to kept in on the episode. But Patrick tells Alex that like I was cautious about coming on your show and that's because your show is called info wars and that's information war and I'm an ice ice bag. I'm against that and I was like, well, I got to understand like I named it that because I'm against information or they have like this weird sort of interaction that like you can tell that there's some frostiness between them. Okay, there is. There's a real vibe of like

this guy might believe in some sort of internet stuff. Yeah, that's harder than Alex. Yeah, and that maybe looks at Alex as a shield. My imaginary bullshit is in conflict with your imaginary bullshit and my imaginary bullshit is also includes a way to dismiss your imaginary bullshit. Yeah, and the fact that your website is called info wars leads me to believe that you're engaged in information warfare sure like warfare right and I'm opposed to that. It's very uncomfortable. We're just doing word association at this point. Yeah, and so Alex gets kind of defensive, but he is also like really, really like the two things that he's stressing on this episode so strongly are that Millie doesn't work here doesn't work there and I don't do secret

shit never met her before. I was really warning Millie to watch out when I was in DC and they had real cloak and dagger not fake want to be spies around like the real deal and I was like you need to really be careful what you're involved in because I don't get involved in any of this. I open source to all my research have guessed on and that's that because they've tried to set us up a bunch and it's very dangerous. I don't do secret stuff. I've never done a secret. I've never had a secret. I feel like I have heard him have top secret sources. Yeah, in every are you talking about some lieutenant colonels. I think he might have a large number of lieutenant colonels in every branch of all the I mean I guess everywhere. He says that like

the globalists are planning to overthrow the president. Yes, he says that like secret. They're trying to kill everyone with a race specific bio weapon. His best friend helped to organize a an illegal theft of an election. He doesn't do secret shit. Secret shit. So Patrick Berge is very bitter about various media entities that have snubbed him in the past and so he complains a little bit about Dan Bonjino here and then Alex betrays Dan Bonjino's confidence on air. Right. So that's where we're at. I can't trust anybody in the media. Dan Bonjino, Sarah Carter, Sarah Carter sent. Bonjino is scared. They broke in his house. He has to tell people that but they did a bunch of stuff to him and he's just his wife can't him. I love the idea

that Alex is like secret sources. Trust me because they know that I don't talk. Bonjino scared. They broke into his house. He told me not to tell anybody. The least trustworthy person in the world. He's he's he's not having a private conversation. Right. I don't know him gossiping in the in the foyer with a couple of friends. I understand that in order to do any kind of like public sort of thing you do kind of have to train yourself a tiny bit to get over the fact that a lot of people listen to a thing or sure like because if you really sat down and thought about the implications of like every single ear that hears the words that you say it would be so overwhelming. Totally. It'd be very difficult to deal with but the extreme of

that to the point where you're airing Dan Bonjino's alleged dirty business on air is private shit like that's not cool. I don't know. My wife had to have a partial hysterectomy. She didn't want anybody to know that but we're going to keep going on. Wait. Wait. What am I on air? Yeah, it's it's so awesome to when they thought or the like piece of information is immediately followed up with you told me not to tell anybody to say that didn't want me to say that but I'm a good friend. He often will swear and then be like cut that out. Why couldn't you say that Dan Bonjino scared they broke into his house cut that out cut that out cut that out. Well still good stuff. That's still gold Dan. It seems like if you're betraying a person's confidence

you would cut it out. You would have to realize what a betrayal actually means. Oh fair enough. So anyway, Bonjino's scared and all these people in media who aren't down with helping out with Patrick Berge. Sure. They're all just scared and blackmailed. I don't know what his justification might be. You know what I'm just saying. I'm just saying to say, oh, Bonjino didn't have me on. It's not because he's bad. Fox tells them the NRA would tell them who they can have on. It wasn't you understand all those guys are good people. It wasn't about being I mean, I mean, take, take, take Judge DePaul Tom. He's totally blackmailed. It's not anything illegal he's doing. But he's blackmailed. Why do you think he's anti-Trump? I'm not only explanation. I don't do anything bad

and I don't care whatever they make up. Anyways, I don't want to get back into me. I just think we're a prototype of how to defeat this. Yeah, this is he really thinks you might have actually done it this time. Yeah, he really does. I do get the sense that he is at least wanting to cover his ass. Yeah, I don't do anything bad. Like he's really going hard on this. Yeah. So they have a disappointing end to the episode and actually the episode goes on quite a while after this because Alex ends up like I guess not thinking that Millie being arrested and this documentary is what needs to be talked about for the rest of the show because he's like he talks a bit about how he over the weekend. He's going to go back to the green belt and he's going to protest that people

won't let his wife go on the trail. He may look if you get if you go viral once got to get back into that. Well, he did do that and I will say that when he showed back up he had a real big boy bullhorn. So he did learn his lesson there but we we come to Saturday and Alex put out a video on Saturday that is supposed to be an update on the situation with Millie. Alex Jones here with a exclusive update on Millie. We were being arrested yesterday morning in Ohio along with her husband Gavin Wentz. I've known Millie over eight years. I've known Gavin six. I know both her children. They've been contractors with us for many years. She's a very good Christian lady, very hardworking and so is Gavin. And the answer is I don't have a lot of answers right now. They

don't know what's going on. They're being held in a jail. They've been told that it is a sealed indictment for burglary and some other things and I don't blame listeners and viewers and the Internet thinking this is fake. I don't know shit. I gotta say like there is a sort of sensibility that's coming out of Alex. Yeah, because he does. He talks about how like the the police seemed weird, you know, like the video. It seems weird. Sure. The fact that he's like I understand why people would think this would maybe be staged. He's not saying it's staged. No saying I understand why people say it's staged. That indicates a little bit of a self awareness. Yeah and granted even though I don't really believe in him because he goes off the rails. Sure. I think

that that's a flicker of some sort of rationality that you rarely see in him. It didn't even take a lawyer next to him to get him to not, you know, be an asshole or is Barnes next to him. Barnes is somewhere. Barnes just in the shadows. Alex does mention talking to Barnes a couple times but he does not make an appearance. So he gets Alex gets to talking about this and apparently on Friday's show Alex said that the documentary was supposed to come out on Thursday the day prior. Yeah, so that would have been the 13th. Right now it turns out there's a different release date and here's why people think we staged it. Not just how the cops act weird, but you'll see in the news on Monday. She's in diet. She's in jail. It's real. It's that the film was supposed

to come out Wednesday but they had problems with the encoding. They were going to come on the show, it was all set up, her and this whistleblower and others. It was going to be the whistleblower, it was going to be Tori and it was going to be Millie and one of their guests, I mean the guy who came to Austin to be on the show Wednesday but it never happened because she was having problems getting the file completed. Not it was a free film. They didn't stage their own arrest to promote a free film. She's really in jail folks. I agree that they didn't stage that but now we have Thursday was supposed to come out but now Wednesday. Right. It's confusing and a guy that you didn't have on the show because you weren't sure who he was was already pre scheduled for

Wednesday and it's it's strange too because Patrick Berge put out a little video over the weekend. Does he have something to say? He has a little something and keep in mind they weren't planning to upload the video yesterday. They weren't going to planning to be done with it until Monday and so I think that this was a preemptive action. So in his video over the weekend where he's talking about heading to Ohio to break Millie out basically sure he says that the video wasn't even supposed to come out until the next Monday. All right. We have three different release dates all right from three or two different people right. Alex is provided two of sure sure that's true but the difference in them is one is future. The other is past yeah and it's very. I don't

know. I don't know what I don't know what's real here. I don't also don't care but I would just point. I don't care what's real beyond just wanting to know. I would like to know Jordan. I'll be honest with you. I don't even want to know. I don't think I do either. I'm more interested in the fact that there are these discrepancies yeah that aren't resolved that are just left dangling for no reason. Well I mean one of the reasons is everybody's full of shit. There is that reason yeah and you know what's interesting just like a compulsive lie. They none of them could tell you the real release date even if they wanted to probably not. But what's interesting is in this video that Berge put out over the weekend he is not so into Alex after the interview he has turned

on Alex. Oh no. What I saw with Alex Jones yesterday was pretty kind of disappointing. One of his you know one of his reporters one of his colleagues independent contractor. Although they are subcontractors you know I don't know if you saw the same thing as I did but it seemed like he was pretty much in cover your ass mode the whole time. That's the last he said he wasn't trying to distance I believe Alex Jones. Listen Berge is full of shit. I don't agree with him on anything but he's right. He's dead right on all of that one hundred percent correct. When I before I saw that video that Berge put out I had to watch Friday's show and that was exactly the feeling that I got from this. Yeah is one hundred percent trying to cover his ass. Wow. I have. I don't know Billy. I've

she doesn't work here. I don't do a secret shit. I told her at CPAC. She's in too deep. Hey no listen. I'm not trying to distance myself or anything. It's just that I've never met the woman before. I'm not trying to. We've never even been in the same room honestly. Sure. Yeah. So Alex we're back to his Saturday report now and Alex has a spin on this and this is probably as good as you're going to do. It's not great. All right. But it's about as good as it got. The folks that talked to Millie today said that a few months ago her mother was there and she hadn't visited in a few years. I knew they were strange from her mother lives out in California. Her mother because of COVID came and then her mother was there with the phone

according to them videotaping videos and documents they had and I don't think she's working with some government agency or group but I think just seeing this type of stuff your daughter involved with like real NSA whistleblowers and like real government documents may have freaked her out and then she went to the police and they admitted to me that you know they grabbed the phone away and they smashed it and they bought her a new one so but that doesn't get you a grand jury indictment over some five hundred dollar phone. So this is weird because Alex is saying that he talked to someone who talked to Millie but then now he's saying that Millie confessed to him that they took the phone. Wow. I don't understand. Confess through the intermediate. Honestly he's

never directly spoken to me Millie before in his entire life always through an intermediate. It's always through an intermediate. So apparently the story now is that I mean because the information has come out that this is what the arrest was about. Yeah. We have to now contextualize it and it's that Millie's mom was a globalist. It's not terrible. She's a spy. It's not terrible. She was in there trying to take sneaky snapshots of all of her information to send to John Brennan. Yeah and there we go. Yeah. It's definitely not something where she was being verbally abused and without question. So I'm very almost certainly racist shit was said maybe and there we go. So Alex claims in this next clip that Millie that was sort of the reason that Mike Flynn Jr. came to

the CPAC event which we know is not true because I was Ivan Reiklin unless Millie brought Ivan Reiklin but that doesn't make sense either because Ivan had already been a guest on Alex's show. Either way Alex has never met either of these people right. He doesn't know anybody. He doesn't know anybody. I know the million Gavin came to my DC event in January and they brought General Flynn's son with them and they had a lot of big heavy hitters there. I was like what are you guys into. Not not taking Flynn but I was just like this was like some serious stuff. I was like these aren't fake spies that people you brought here. Like what are you involved in. I'm used to fake spies. Yeah that's really I'm used to fake. Take a second to and normally normally they bring fake

spies here. Normally I don't have to deal with the real people. He does say that multiple times. It does seem like he knows. It does seem like he's aware. It's my expectation that I'm hanging out with weirdos who are making shit up. There's no other way to take that right. There's no other way to read that. Now in my day to day life what I like to do is I like to hang out with people who are role playing. Millie on the other hand is hanging out with people who seemed for real. And that was scary. That's a red flag. I got to be honest. That's why I drank so much. I was freaked out. If Alex said that I would believe I would buy it. Yeah. If Alex was like and look I'll be honest with you. I was not used to being around such scary people and it led to me binge

drinking. That's why I passed out before my headlining speech. I would immediately be like that's self facing. That's probably not something you're making up. I buy it. I buy it. I wouldn't believe that it was true but I believe that it was his experience. Yes. Yeah. That's a good call. Yeah. So anyway he's not done. All right. It turns out one of the people that Millie is talking to may be involved in that CPAC probably not but is a John Brennan defector. Sure. And they were like well we're working with Flint's people. We're also working with people that have defected from Brennan and are telling us all this stuff and I said I don't think that's the case and some of the stuff they told me that Brennan's people

said about me and others through Shadownet was not true. Some of these people have been lying to her about me. Oh boy. So here's the thing. This is Patrick Berge. Uh-huh. Totally. 100% Patrick Berge saying that I'm full of shit. Yeah. Yeah. And we can sort of tell that from Berge's video that he also put out of the weekend. If you don't suspect the timing, hell if Alex Jones, the biggest fucking conspiracy theorist on the planet, doesn't see this as an issue, well he's fucking as dirty as I thought he was. Galvin and Millie assured me that he was, that he was a straight up guy. We were concerned about people possibly around him but they said he was a straight up guy. InfoWars was going to do the

right thing with this. So clearly. Millie Alex isn't your friend. Nope. He will cut and run as soon as he can. So clearly what's going on here is that Patrick Berge had expressed concerns about Alex to Millie and she vouched for him and Millie I guess this somehow got back to Alex, probably through Millie and Alex has taken this to be, he is a John Brennan defector that she's talking to, but this doesn't make sense because he's from the Jim Jones of James Jones wing. He was a contractor for dynology, which is the other side of the conspiracy. Torrey is the one who supposedly was working for Brennan. No one can get your lies straight. Yes, it's all convoluted, but I am pretty sure yes that Berge is the one who was talking shit about Alex and

Alex like they were saying things that aren't true about so mean to me. Alex. I don't think it's thrilled that he had this dude on his show. No, of course not. He is not happy about it. He didn't want him on in the first place. He could have been on on Wednesday or Thursday, but he tried to keep him off the show. Standards are so low for getting on info war. It's Berge's below them. Yes, so there's a 90 percent chance that Millie got arrested because of this video. Alright and pray for her family for the truth to come out and and realize that the film if that is why they did this and probably is connected with other gets a safe bet to say probably 90 percent might not be running. It is

he is at YouTube for now and I'll be banded. It's also a band on video. So all hell's breaking was really was anything else that was said. Well, Alex said that he wasn't going to post it unless he watched it. So I guess he's watched it by Saturday. Yeah, which he doesn't seem too terrified to post it to band TV. No, for for somebody who said she's into some real secret shit. Yeah, some real cloak and dagger shit and I don't deal with anything like that. None of that to then suddenly put it on his website would kind of suggest that either he's seen that there's some traffic he could get from it or he's watched it and he's like hell yeah. That seems weird to me though, because Roger Stone does take a couple hits

in that documentary. Yeah, he does and Alex will later be very mad about that, but he's not mad about that on Saturday with someone figure out what you're doing. Alex hasn't watched it by Saturday or else he would be complaining about Roger Stone shit for sure. Get your shit together. Everybody get your house in order. Anyway, Alex signs off on Saturday is probably about the movie. Think about Millie Weaver. She's in jail right now for the film she put out probably and think about that reality and again pray for her and ask who's next because when the deep state gets rid of Trump with her able to Katie Bar the door folks is going to be crazy. All right, I'm done talking. I've done my work today. I love that timing like that is probably

amazing delivery. That really is good. Yep. That's that's a you got to pray for Millie. She's in jail for making a great documentary probably. It's a Kevin Mielin shit, right? Yeah, Mr. the liminal. Yeah, real good, real good. Oh boy. So we get to Sunday's show now August 16th and after the on Saturday, Alex also did his protest at the green belt. Of course he's busy. I saw some footage of this and I will say it was an okay turnout. Okay, not huge, but you know there were some people there. I don't know. Did they take back the park? What was did they all get in? Yeah, I think so. I didn't watch a ton of footage of it, but I did see some pictures of people swimming. So I think they're swimming and I also on Alex's show on Sunday.

He does play a little sizzle reel sure and he does scream we're coming back next week and I'm bringing a food truck. So I think I think Alex is going to spin this off into we're going to forest rave. We're going to protest this and then when they get there like oh you better let us in and the guys like I mean yeah go ahead and they're like well then we'll have a picnic. I guess it seems like this could turn into a series of outdoor. It'll run out of steam really quick, but anyway, this is not occupy Wall Street. Not all is well in paradise. Okay, because Alex starts off the Sunday show giving a little bit of an apology about that rally. You know I thought to go to that part of the parks is where

they denied my wife and myself and others, but I wasn't thinking hey it's 105 degrees and it's a good walk down to it Barton Springs. It's a hundred yard walk. So everybody said it was a great success, but I apologize to the few people that collapsed from heat exhaustion. Oh no. Oh no. Oh god. They can't do anything. We all had a good time, but I'd like to apologize about the couple of the few people the big the group of people who collapsed from heat exhaustion just to let everybody know it wasn't my idea to spike the punch. It was a it was it was a good day. Everybody said they had a great time. Obviously it's not Alex's fault that people would have heat exhaustion or people. Yeah, I think you have a responsibility to understand your own

hydration and and that, but it is very funny to hear Alex. We like this event was a success. Now apologies that some of you passed out from that's a PTA thing to say. That is the thing that you say after a successful bake sale that went on too long in front of the Walmart and you lost one of your kids. That's the very strange. So Alex now it's been days. So he has, you know, you'd think responsibility to have a lot of the facts of the story correct or at least have watched the entire documentary. I think he might have. Okay, because he's mad now, but he also has some of the facts wrong about Millie's arrest. I'm lifting weights. There's a little gym here in the office at like eight thirty in the morning. I get done. Come over

and start doing this preparation for the show brought for our go live. They go Millie Weaver has been arrested with her husband and Gavin, her husband's brother at their house in Ohio. It's not Gavin's brother. It's Millie's brother. That is just a factual inaccuracy in his is reporting and he says it a couple times. Okay, I don't think that there's any like purpose or malice. It wasn't it was just a misspeaking because of ignorance. Yeah, yeah, I don't I don't see any reason why it would be like a cover up of something, but like it's just he doesn't know the details of the story that is very close to him. You would think you would know hard not to know those details. Yeah, kind of really gives you a picture of a guy who's just like I don't give

a shit. I don't care at all. I flipped a few pages. We're moving on. I went to Barton Springs or I went to the green belt. We drank some beers next week. I'm bringing a fucking food truck. I don't care if Millie's into some secret shit. She's not going to get in the way of my block party. A week after that we're getting about to fuck Trump. I love to party. That would be a great turn. That would be a great turn. That'd be the that'd be a legendary turn. If Alex turn like it's just like all right. All right. Fuck politics. No more politics. Here's how we're going to beat the globalist. We're going to start a fraternity at the green belt. And it's my next guest coming up is exemplifying the turn of our show.

Bring in Andrew W. K. Get on out there. And after him, our next guest is going to be this dude who did a keg stand for like four minutes down at Barton Springs. He is so cool. Call him moose. Look, I don't know what the third guy's name is, but he's the one who brings us E and usually he's a dick until you take that e baby. Yeah, so put up with him for a little bit. It's just a convenience thing a little time. Look, look shows going to drag for a bit. God dammit. I would love it. Turn it into info wars info party, baby. Yeah party wars. That'd be a better show. That'd be great. Yeah. So at this point on the sixteenth, I think Alex is punting.

I think Alex has decided like I'm no longer afraid that you might have actually done. No, no, we're good. I just seen the documentary and I think he's like I think she beat up her mom. She beat up her mom. So that'd be funny. He said it. Not in so many words, but here's where he's at on Sunday. Here's the question. Was she arrested for anything to do with the film shadow gate? And I think the answer is probably not. But that is what is going to end up always being thought about this because of the timing and the coincidence. And so if they were trying to suppress this film, it had the opposite effect. No shit. But I also Alex is still on the angle of it being a little

bit like there's possibly a conspiracy of like trumping up an existing charge. Right. So there's still like some angles he's working and he's not like cutting her loose, but he is definitely kind of. I think he's mad at Berge. First of all, yeah, yeah, that might be coloring was our direction here. And he's just like I don't know this documentary is not getting anybody arrested. I don't. I don't have the energy to play that game. I would be. I would feel so personally betrayed by that. But if you were really he's made more elaborate conspiracy conspiracies out of less and stuck to them in the face of overwhelming evidence and you can't even come up with a half-assed bullshit for Millie. You're just like she probably did it. I don't know. I

mean it's got to it. I feel like it's got to feel shitty because and the same thing with like promoting her go fund me yeah because the premise of the the go fund me was she's arrested. She's a journalist sure and the games you're playing are that she was arrested because of some intrepid journalism right if then it comes out that no she was arrested because of a domestic violence incident that she and two other people enacted upon her mother. Yeah, it becomes a thing where it's like wait. I thought I was sporting independent journalism. I just paid a hundred dollars to help out someone who beat up their mom. Yeah, like that feels bad and for Alex. I think like he doesn't have any need to do this. There's no money for him to give her money.

There's no money for him. Like this documentary like I don't think it's like. I think he realizes also like hey when Project Veritas puts out something. It's all over Twitter. Yeah, it trends like crazy. This didn't move the needle that much. People are not that upset and there was an arrest which is like the ultimate infowars move the needle kind of feel right. Yeah, I think a lot of people sort of got a sense of like there's probably a reason this arrest happened. Yeah, so you look bad. Look the documentary is good. Are we still on? It's the gate of all gates. No, I don't think we are. I don't think we are here. The documentary is good. Okay, now that being said, Patrick Berge is full of shit. Okay, all right. And overall,

I mean, I think it covers real government things that go on and some of the way the propaganda systems operate. But I know Roger Stone gave me a call this morning because he's in it. And he's like I never met General Jones and Paul Manafort. Haven't worked with him over 20 plus years. He's my friend and he's Roger Stone's not involved running the secret Internet control police. I can assure you he's a target of the deep state. But that's what one of the people interviewed said. When he was I had the fella in here as he came to town, I guess for the release of this, I didn't know to be released that day. I didn't know he'd come knocking on her door. A lot of weird stuff going on. You did already know. He's in here during the break and on air saying, well,

I think Roger runs everything. Wow. Roger runs everything. I sure wish he could make a skyport. Yeah, we know a lot of problems this guy saying that word. Yeah. So I mean like from the documentary, Berge's point wasn't that Roger was running everything. But that's why Alex is saying stuff like he said during the breaks, right? Because I can't confirm or deny that at all. But it is kind of a misrepresentation of what was going on in the documentary. But apparently Roger called him that morning and was furious. Oh, wow. So now Alex has another day where you share this documentary that denigrates my good name, sir. Alex has another balancing act that he has to pull off now, which is like,

all right. Documentary is about the media being controlled by the shadowy globalist forces. I like that. I like that. I don't want to be against that. But this guy, Patrick Berge, he's a dick. He's a dick. I don't like I don't like him and he's talking shit about my guy Roger. My personal and professional lives are coming together in a way that is so usual for me. So what I'm going to say is this documentary is good. Yeah, but this guy they talked to is an asshole functionally half of the documentary. I would argue maybe more than half because he's the guy who claims that he invented the technology that's behind everything. That's true. So like in terms of people who have like both him and Tory are

central figures in the documentary, but I feel even more so about Patrick that if you knock out that tent pole, this whole thing comes down. Yeah, I think you either of them. You get rid of whatever they're bringing to the table. The thing doesn't stand. Sure, but I think he's closer to a keystone than than Tory and they're both nonsense, but and they're both it's so it's it's it's wild for me to hear Alex be like. Yes, the central focus of this documentary is a lying piece of shit right, but the documentary is pretty good right. So you know how Millie talks very seriously and earnestly and agrees with everything that the giant piece of shit says. I don't worry about that that my apparently independent contractor of and I remember before

probably is okay with all of this. Yeah, and she thinks he's great and I look this guy's an asshole and I can do man. Alex seems like he got fucked like he got burned. Yeah, he doesn't like that. He I rarely I don't know if I can think of the last time I've sensed this vibe from him of like I got fucked. People fucked me and we just bring guests in and say, Hey, say whatever you want. Well, you run the new world order, Alex. Okay, great. Thanks a lot. Oh, and I'm going to post the film where we're the bad guys. I mean, it's just it's just next level. But that's what happens in this whole Qverse is Trump can't be trusted. Roger Stone can't be trusted. Alex Jones can't be trusted. But anybody off the street wearing a Trump jacket. Whoa. Whoa. Okay. All right.

Trump's bad now too, right? I mean, Robert Mueller is good and all this other stuff's good. But but the actual your new world order the actual globalist operation. It's not a problem. But anyways, that is a distraction. Can't wait to get Millie out of jail. He is mad. That was a good turn. Yeah, that was a good save right there at the end. So I can't wait to get Millie. The Trump jacket thing is a reference to the jacket that Patrick Berge wears all the time. The vest, the leather vest that is Trump's bikers for Trump. He's not thrilled about that. Great. So yeah, he's decided that Berge is just like Q and on type. Sure. Why not? Yeah, he doesn't like me. So he's cute. I don't like anybody right. So Alex

has Roger on because Roger called him mad that morning. Sure. And also because Trump's brother died and Roger knew him. And so Roger says some nice things about Trump's brother and I'm not going to even touch any of that. Don't care. Yeah. But we do learn a few things from this because you've gone through a lot. Roger Trump's gone through a lot. I think it's fair to say the only person who's probably gone through as much as Trump or more has been you. I guess Seth Rich got killed. So I guess he paid more. There's been a lot of people paying in blood, sweat and tears. I know we're happy to do it. Interesting. Alex interesting. That's that's a weird undercutting. Yeah. Nobody's paid as much as you. I mean so rich got murder, but I know that Alex like was

soft peddling backwards. Yeah. Back into Seth Rich conspiracies, but I'd not heard him fully commit. And so like this is kind of interesting to me because now that indicates to me that the editorial position just sort of passively on back on Seth Rich was by Hilary, of course, right, right, right, right. So that's interesting. Great. Always. And like you don't think that they would just actually not think that fair enough. You know, they just say they don't think that. Yeah. Yeah. For convenience. Yeah. So look, Patrick Berge is a liar, but that's done a slight against the movie. All right, folks. So Friday. Millie Waver's like, Hey, I want you to get this guy in studio that's in my film. I hadn't seen

her film called shadow gate. She's a, I sponsored them. So when I say they're a contractor, I'm not distancing myself from them. They do their own. You are absolutely talk to Millie once a week or she sends me an article. I send her articles. I'd like her to tweet out. And I think she does a great job. I like Millie. I've known Millie eight years. Then it works with shadow gate that I don't know about until she's been arrested and charged with family violence and destroying a cell phone, which is way overblown. So then it looks like, Oh my God, they're trying to cover up what's happened with their film. And then the last thing she said is this guy's in town. He's in my film. He wants to be on. So the guys at the door, he comes in and he goes, yeah. And so I've

got him here in studio and I go, okay, who runs it? And during the break, he goes, Roger Stone. I go, sorry, Roger Stone can't hardly make a Skype work. Now I like Roger, but he's about as technical as I am. Well, he works with Manafort and General Jones. I go, he had to work for Manafort 20 plus years. I said, I know, I was trying to get him to get Manafort on during the campaign. He said, well, I talked to him every once of all our still friends, but I haven't done business with him in decades. So we're not attacking the film and I want to get her out of jail. And we got Tori, who's her friend in the film, very nice lady who's been on before and exposed election fraud Kentucky. We're going to have him on. But you know, when you're in a film and the guys

there and he goes, yeah, you're partner, Roger Stone. He runs it all. So Roger, you hadn't let me in on the secret here. But then I said to this morning, talking to some of these folks, I said, I want to see him with General Jones. I want to see him with Hayden. I want to see him running shadow net. It's not true. So, so we're not attacking the film. It's a small part of it. It's not. I mean, the actual Roger Stone part is small, but if you're attacking the essential credibility of one of the main people in the and see this is why Alex Jones is really weird because I can see what his thought process is and it's like, okay, yes, this Patrick Berge guy is clearly lying about my friend Roger Stone and saying that he's involved and possibly in

charge of this gigantic conspiracy, right? And hey, that's a lie, but the rest of the stuff he's saying is probably like fine. I mean, yeah, he's just got the he's just got the the end person wrong. He doesn't realize that it's still the Council of twelve, yeah, which Bill Gates is a member. Yeah, Alex doesn't see people like it's it's almost like looking at every single thing as completely unattached to other things. Yeah, yeah, like the the lying about Roger doesn't implicate the truth or why would the credibility that you should approach other statements with his lies are a la carte. Why wouldn't Patrick Berge's lies be a la carte? I guess so. I guess I'm annoyed every time he does the I know I'm lying denial that like I'm not trying to distance

myself from her like you yes you are. You know you are because you just said you not. Yeah, I'm not bragging, but stop it. I'm so annoyed at that. Yeah, it's it's very reflexive. Yeah, one of the things that I think is pretty interesting as I noticed Roger doesn't seem to be trying to solicit donations on this episode, which is interesting because this is Sunday and on Monday, Roger dropped his appeal. No, he did not. He did. Oh, no, that doesn't come up by the way also. Why would it? Why would it? It never happened in the first place. No, but on previous episodes and in the Shadowgate documentary, it's discussed how Roger Stones appeal is going to be the thing that brings down the deep state absolutely because

Roger was so clearly and so obviously wrongly tried that it would be the easiest thing in the world for them to appeal this case. It was going to go through. It was going to expose everybody and hell or high water. Nothing was going to stop Roger. No, and I'm sure that the dropping of the appeal had nothing to do with what happened on Tuesday when the Senate Intel report was released, which gave so many more instances of Roger Stone in contact with the Russian apparatchics, if you will. I mean, why would you like the appeal would have done it short today? There's a lot more evidence even further against him. I haven't seen this today. The sentencing. I didn't see this today. I haven't. I haven't kept up with the news as I was getting ready for this episode. It's

and it's kind of to the point where the evidence looks as though if you wanted to you might be able to bring a new charge against stone. I'm going to drop that appeal and send it back to president. He is very suspicious. Very, very strange. If I were Alex, sure I would be so conflicted right now because on the one hand I got this Millie situation where I'm getting screwed by her. He sucks. Yeah, one of the people in her documentary is trying to trying to use me. He's making me feel. He's trying to fleece me and I can't just get rid of him because he's attached to Millie. Yeah, I can't. I can't completely burn him without attacking this documentary exactly like the point of and I'm trying to get my employee who's not my employee out of prison

never matter before. This is complicated now at the same time. I've been saying that Roger Stone is going to be vindicated and that's why Trump needs to commute his sentence, of course, not because he's totally guilty and we don't want him in prison because he's very effective as a propagandist to try and get Trump reelected, but because he was wrongly a sentence to prison. Trump right. He doesn't need to pardon him. He just needs to commute the sentence so he doesn't die in prison exactly so we can get the appeal. Of course now the appeals dropped. What the fuck like you know make like this makes Alex look like a huge asshole. Okay just because he's beset on all sides by people. He previously trusted to be competent incorrectly.

All of them are competent in their own way. I suppose Millie's whole thing would be totally fine if she didn't beat up her mom. That whole thing would be going fine. Yeah, that's not a competency issue. That's a like a alleged crime. You know what this is? This is like a heist movie where Alex is playing the ocean part and then Millie is one of the bumbling idiots who in the middle of a heist makes a huge mistake and they're like oh that's going to come back on us. You know like that kind of thing. You know what I think they need was that remember that software that was in guy remember that software that's in a shadow gate. Oh that would be really about like hiring better people man. I wonder if he's in touch with somebody who can help him out with

that. Yeah, this seems like a human resources problem. That's a bad hires. Why isn't he thrown his dad out of the box? I would at this point seriously. Oh man, but I would if I were him. I would be pretty fucking pissed off at just about everybody. I would take a vacation. You know what I would do? I would start throwing weekly parties at the green power. I would straight up check out bucket. All this stuff wasn't real to begin with. So let's party let's throw a party. Yeah, so now at this point on Sunday, Alex has to kind of figure out a way to thread the needle. Yeah, because he's like okay. She didn't get arrested because of anything in the documentary, but she did get arrested.

Patrick Berge was in Austin, which is fucking weird. Right. He showed up. He is a dick way a dick. I you know what I think this is a sigh up against me. She's trying to come on the show Friday. She gets arrested in Ohio. The police are very unprofessional. They don't know who they're arresting. People think that's fake. They think I staged it for a film. I have not seen. I don't own. I'm not part of again. Then they go, Hey, there's a guy at the door that's in it. Wow. At my door, he comes in. I go, Okay, I guess if you know what's going on, I'll have you on. And I learned Roger Stone is the kingpin. So I've never had something make me think I'm in an alternate dimension like this. This is done. Millie's a good person, a good mom. Okay. She's

got two children. They went, they grabbed her. The CPS is trying to take her kids at 10 a.m. tomorrow. She's they've got an arraignment at 11 a.m. over an argument with her mom and a broken cell phone three months ago. And her mom admits that. So I don't know why they're grabbing him and doing this other than they may have been conned by the deep state. They kept trying to like they wouldn't release. They said, you got to have this guy in your office first. You got to have this guy as soon as he gets in, we'll show you the film. And then we get him in here. We're like, okay. And it's like Roger Stone, Roger Stone. And I'm not saying the police were part of this to hype it up. I just don't know because maybe it's a coincidence. Okay.

So now Alex is presenting it as we weren't going to release the film and tell Bergey was there. Right. Because it's a setup for him to be like, it's all about Roger. Haha. I just can't believe that this would come back to being entirely about him. Yeah. No, no, no, no, you're wrong. You're wrong. I understand why you would think that because it does sound that way. It's not all about Alex. It's mostly about Roger, right, but that's also about Alex. Yes, of course. So but but I do like the idea that Alex is like. I fucking got screwed on this probably about me. I got screwed. Like it. It's a really interesting character style for Alex, the guy who just got conned. The actual victim is confused on how to play the

victim. Like, yeah, because there's there's some pride involved. There's some confusion. I didn't get conned. Yeah, I think Alex is totally fine. I think I got conned. I think I got chumped. But what Trump said about me, your reputation is amazing. I will not let you or your audience down and what do you say? I came on because of Roger Stone. I trust Roger Stone. He's kind of you're doing a great job. We have the president's endorsement, but we're not trustworthy, according to the internet operation that's run by the deep state to discredit us because they know our message is key with swing state voters. That's why we're targeted continually as supposedly to the point of I'm sponsoring content that I get people total

freedom on and then I wake up and we're the bad guys in it. I mean, we have been totally chumped and I'll admit it. I mean, I got to really think about this. I want Millie to get out of jail. I want all this stuff. I want to understand, but I think whoever ran this did do all this and did get her arrested right when this operation was happening to give this full push against you, buddy. They really don't like you talking to Roger. Yeah. Yeah. So this is interesting to see how this sort of rationalization happens on the fly. You know, I don't like him understanding that he's getting conned. Well, I don't like it. I don't like it. He's getting by so many people all the time, but it's it's he's conning himself now. Of course. Well, yes, he's got to convince himself

that this is because it's elaborate. It's not just you hang out with fucking dicey weirdos. You have no standard of who you'll trust as experts or employees or contractors, and this is what happens. Sometimes you end up with some rogue actors slipping through somebody like Millie is dumb enough to listen to one of these people and they so chaos in your operation. It has nothing to do it, but Alex has to understand it as like no. It's a secret globalist plot that I didn't get chumped by Millie. Right, right. I got chumped by the deep state. Yeah, and he didn't get chumped by Millie. No, it's just that's like it's just circumstances. Yeah, it's how it worked. If she was better at her job. She would have known not to listen to

these people. They would would red flags would have gone up when she realized she couldn't verify. If you were a real journalist, you would have watched the documentary that you sponsored and gave them free editorial control over. You would think before you put it out because you were the sponsor of it and you wanted to make sure it was up to your standards or you don't have any standards and just drop it on the floor. Yeah, great. Who gives us. Yeah, so Alex really has to clarify. This is a very interesting sort of clarification and that is again, just because one of the people in this documentary is an asshole. It doesn't mean it's not awesome. I'm your host Alex Jones and I want to be 100% clear the fact that I was the

Roger Stone earlier criticizing one of the people in the excellent film that Millie Weaver has put out has nothing to do with Millie Weaver, nothing to do with somebody in the film we disagree with. Overall, I think the film is a great film. Shadowgate and I'm sad she got arrested with her husband and her husband's brother in Ohio on what we believe are overblown fake charges. Her mother's come out who was the original complaint and said that they're basically overblown charges. She wants it dropped again. He's got the brother thing wrong. I don't understand how you can be like half of the information flow in this documentary is a dick, a liar, someone I don't trust at all. Documentary is good. I don't understand that.

Do you think if somebody were to watch one of Alex's documentaries and pick out a talking head, just one of many talking heads that he's had in that documentary and attack them for being a liar, do you think Alex would be like, you know, I think, you know, that's just one thing I'm sure he still thinks the documentary is good. I don't know. I doubt it. I don't think there are many documentaries of him that all that he's done. They only have one asshole. Yeah, well it's also from what I've seen the thing that he's talking about with Millie's mom coming out and saying that you wanted the charges dropped. Sure. There was apparently somebody who had Millie's mom as a screen name who left like a YouTube comment that said that there's no verification

that it was actually her mom. It is that fast how the internet works, isn't it? Well, I mean it could be her mom. Sure. It could be or it could be a. I have no idea. I don't think that's been confirmed or any. I haven't seen any comment from her mom at all. I don't like the cops accept YouTube comments as yeah. I think so. Drop charges. I think so. Yeah, okay, but Alex apparently has taken that as like fully confirmed gospel and that's also not good. If it were me, I would say my handle would not be the ownership of the parent, parenthood towards the person that just beat the shit out of me. I think if I were Alex, I would probably have cut bait like I think the you've already said that you don't even know her. I mean like once you're already embarking

down the road of as you just a contractor. She does work. I pay her sometimes yeah like why even muddy the waters? Why even why even try to salvage something here? I think he's getting into the sunk cost fallacy. You know like I put eight years into this. Yeah, but eight years he's got he's built her up as a part. I guess I think that's not an employee. I think that she probably might have some embarrassing things to say and I don't know if the NDA is as strong with contractors as we've seen about how she allegedly treats her mom. I wouldn't expect her to keep her mouth shut. Millie and Gavin might come in and take his phone. They are rogue actors. So Alex has to process all the information that's going on in his life and obviously it's a whole lot.

Then there's only one conclusion you can come to. So I think Millie's a great person, but I think there's a sigh up at the core of this. So we'll talk about it. It's definitely a brain teaser here. Yeah, it's a brain teaser. Is she out? No, I don't know. I don't know. I think she is. I'm looking forward to. I know she is. She got released on her own recognizance. She might have been on Alex's show on Monday. I haven't listened to it. I've just listened to the going over the documentary put me a bit behind. Yeah. Oh no. Well that's dumb shit. That's fair and I was laughing too hard. Listening to Friday, Saturday and Sunday of Alex's show. Yeah damn. It's funny. So at this point on Sunday, Alex has Tory on. It's been a whirlwind of a

weekend. Yeah, it is. This is gone. We've gone a lot of places in one in a short span of time. I'll say it's in many ways recharged my batteries about Alex and this show, but it's also like really drained my batteries too. Like it's it's this weird about like balancing act of I'm tired as hell. Yeah, but I really enjoy. You're just like this is racist. This is racist. Now you're like apparently Millie beat up her mom. I don't know. Alex is trying to say it's a sigh off. Exactly. And Alex invited this weirdo to his studio and now he's playing there to fight. Yeah. That's a good weekend. What fun. Yeah. So he has Tory in studio or on the phone excuse me now and we've already heard from Alex that the documentary was supposed to come out on Thursday

and on Wednesday. Yes. And we've heard from Patrick Berge that it was supposed to be supposed to come out the future. Following Monday. Yes. And so now Tory has another story. I can't put the pieces together man. Yeah. They're making a film. I don't know about it. They don't want to release it till a guy comes to my office. The film gets released. They're arrested. A dude's in my office saying Roger Stone masterminds everything with no proof. That's one reason I bring that in is I want that this is bizarre. I mean I can't even begin to figure this out. It is very bizarre. Here's what's even more bizarre. So I spoke with Gavin on the telephone today and what on the telephone to me shocked me on July 20th is the date because he got the documents. You know Gavin's all about

paperwork. 20th. 20th. The grand jury returning indictment. Now something that people don't know is that July 20th was the original release date. But unfortunately the file was corrupt. All right. Wow. I for somebody who I think a little bit like Alex is struggling to figure out what they think is going on her adding a completely new element to this is going to make it very easy. I think I think Alex is still struggling because I think so too the content of the documentary and the point in the finger at John Brennan and you know being like oh yeah all the media is all lies like all that is so good for him and he likes it but he also fucking hates Patrick Berge. Tory is a lady that does a show with Millie Weaver who was arrested. Right as she

was releasing a online documentary Shadowgate which I think overall is a good film. It has a guest that has to postulate something with no evidence. It's not true. I okay. Here's where here's here's my pitch to you. All right. Here's where everybody has gone wrong with Alex. They think lawyers and shit like that are going to keep him in line. Do you know what you should have done? Do you know what you do? You trick Alex. So you want to avoid him doing the Sandy Hook stuff. Yeah. Guess what you do. You find somebody who's a conspiracy theorist. You pay them to be petty and annoying towards Alex. Perfect. And he'll be like that Sandy Hook conspiracy bullshit is a lie. I hate it. Yeah. Yeah. You have to make it make it personal. So he takes it. Exactly.

Yeah. Exactly. You could you could manipulate him maybe but doing whatever you want. You have an interesting idea. But I think this is actually evidence of the contrary because he's still still on the yeah he is still on that guy. So maybe maybe not. Maybe that wouldn't work at all. Maybe he has such a name. It. Yeah. He's so fucking stupid. Yeah. So Alex suggests that the film was released after the arrest intentionally. Right. And I think that's true. There wasn't a rest. Like I told you on Friday it wasn't made up to promote a film. Oh Jones is doing this. Promote a film. No that's that's not what was going on. I think the film was done for a while. They were just waiting and kept tinkering with it.

So I think the arrest finally got it out. It's really what happened. Yeah. I would say that maybe the film was done for a while and then this was the best opportune moment for them to to release it because then everyone's going to suggest that it was because of this arrest. Yeah. No. Isn't that fun. They must have been a little bit of them was like oh this is an opportunity for us. Yeah. Totally. There still could be a whole lot of coincidences going on because I find it hard to believe like without any evidence that ahead of time they would know like the date that they were going to come. Excuses weren't sure. Sure. Sure. Because Patrick Berge being in Austin like if you imagine that that was part of a setup. Yeah.

Like that is too much for me to believe. Yeah. Like there's there's some coincidences mixed in with like a clear opportune. Totally. Yeah. But my my general vibe on this is I I think Alex is probably telling the truth in this case because he has no idea. Yeah. He has no idea and he's trying to like distance himself all at the same time supporting them. And so he's in a weird like might as well tell the truth mode. I don't know what's happening. And so it would make sense to me that they had finished it and they were just tinkering around with it which I think that's generous. Yeah. I think they were sitting on that's fair tinkering around with the way that he said that disdainfully to what were they just tinkering around with. That's fair thing sucks

editing. Maybe I don't know but yeah. Then they get arrested and somebody a few hours and then like a few hours later they're like this is the best possible time to do this. Yeah. So drop it. Yeah. So Tori she she knows I mean there's been an arrest. And so we got to deal with that. It turns out you can get arrested for anything. Anybody can have anyone arrested at any time. Look through one person's words. So Alex if I want to I can go down to my local police. Say whatever I want about you and they'll get a secret grand jury indictment with no understanding public statement that she dropped the charges. They got the fight and our cell phone broke three months ago. I mean it wasn't even a fight. It was the second time they caught her recording

you know documents they had out and serial numbers and computers and logs. That's what you you shouldn't keep that stuff out. You know what I love about that. I love to let's have a party. I love two things about that. The first is Alex is just like the response is hilarious. This game crazy. And the second thing is that's the response to Tori saying something that he himself said in that video he put out on Saturday. He shouldn't be surprised by that information. That's weird. That's very weird. So Tori has a new detail here about the arrest. Okay add something. I don't know why this wasn't in the video or no one brought this up at all. But apparently and not only that the power was

cut from the house. So thank God you know I was I was riding Gavin. Hey I'm going on air. I want you to click send. Show me where it's at on the send through our seed network. And he showed it to me and that was it. And it was at 60% and I was happy. 10 minutes later they were arrested. Their power was cut. The power was so there's a lot. That's huge. The power was cut. So this isn't about just arresting people and they know there's going to be media. That's why the cops were being nice. They cut the power. That's huge. That's huge. What's their evidence for the power being cut? I'm not sure. Tori has said it. It stopped uploading or it was clearly 60% because she got the stopped uploading because the power was cut. I don't know. But that's how easy it is to convince

Alex of something. Not hard. Now this is my favorite thing from Tori's appearance. The two of them she's able to smooth over Alex a little bit on the Roger Stone stuff. Okay by her saying like I love Roger. He's great. And she's trying to explain to Alex that that's like his whole version of it like Berge says that Roger's master minding everything. Sure. She's trying to explain to him like that's not what he said in the documentary. Alex is kind of it's a confusing back and forth between them. But she's able to make everything fine by being like I think Roger's the best. And then it's all it takes. All right. All right. Cool. We're good. All right. Unfortunately, it falls apart a little bit when Tori starts explaining her feelings about Edward Snowden.

Oh no. And Alex doesn't quite like what she has to say. This is really interesting. We can disagree on this. Julian Assange is not in the same boat as Snowden. Snowden actually caused created that twin stream so that they can stream out everybody's information over to Europe to these private companies. The only reason he whistle blew is because he realized just how disposable he was. So I think you're I mean I think Snowden is not a pure creature as Assange. I mean I hear what you're saying but I'm not I'm not I'm not in the camp of Snowden. He should get immunity if he blows the whistle and says that Obama put him there because that's exactly who directed this. Let's be clear. OK. Because those of us that know know and I've

received communications from people that are still within agencies saying whoa I can't believe you did this. So I don't do this is why when they were asking President Trump oh what do you think about Snowden and he said I don't know some people are saying this some people we don't know the thing is maybe we can give him immunity to talk and point the fingers because he was registered unlike Snowden myself or Berge do not get afforded any whistle blow protections. He does. He does because he was directly paid by their payroll. It wasn't third removed. So the story of Snowden has been glam you know perfume tutus and lips. You're talking about Oliver Stone making a movie all of it. Well it's all glorified. It's not the truth. The truth is he went in there to

hijack the NSA stream and reinforce this twinning of streams. So every single piece of data that we speak text pictures whatever you want is housed at the NSA is shipped off overseas and he did that. Let's be clear on what he did. And then he came out saying oh they're copying your messages. Yeah they're copying everything. It's not just Verizon. Okay well I'm not disagreeing with you but I'm not seeing the proof that he's he how would he control the whole architecture to put everything overseas. Don't ask. You didn't have to put the architecture. That's like gigantic. I don't click the buttons. So don't do this. No no no no no. Oh Brennan did that in 2003 with Saudis in Luxembourg. So that's when he set up the company with the. So why would he do all this and run to Russia.

I don't know. Did he go to Russia. I don't know. You know that for a fact. Did you see him there. So now we have discredited the other voice on the documentary. Alex doesn't seem to like her that much now either though. It's still a great documentary. Still wonderful documentary. I think he did a really great job. I have some serious problems with both of the people that my non employee talked to. But dare he say oh why would they do that. Why would dare he say that to a conspiracy. How dare he go. I don't understand why anyone would act that way. Well here here's I mean the problem with that is that that means that Alex is capable. Exactly follow up questions. Oh yeah and that

makes all the other interactions that he has suspect. He has to dislike you at least a little bit and and I rarely see pushback and the fact that Alex is pushing back is not a good sign for these folks. No they will not be back on. I leave out it. So you know it's it's a really interesting position to be in because you know I watched Shadowgate and I looked into these folks and I found them to not pass certain tests that I have for credibility. Sure they didn't seem like people I would take their word on stuff for and it's really interesting that Alex and I are on the same page. It's very rare that really is. It really is for both of you to watch a documentary come to the exact same

conclusions. These people the only difference is he's like I still think it was pretty good. He's like oblivion. Look the acting wasn't that great. I think that he and I came to our conclusion slightly different possibly rubrics maybe right you didn't take it personally. No but it's you know by the end of Sunday show you get the sense that he doesn't like these people one of them for sure. Yeah the other subtly signals don't seem to be so funny. Yeah so we have this last clip here and the show ends with Alex distancing himself even further but at the same time saying he's not distancing himself and saying that this is probably a big sigh up against himself and personally. Here's all I know folks

and it's not a distancing myself from this film. I don't tell contractors or people I sponsor whether it's Paul Joseph Watson or whether it's Millie Weaver or whether it's Caitlin Bennett or whether it's a lot of other content creators that we support. I just say hey you're doing great work. Here is some support and I hope you mentioned Info Wars and plug it back to us but really it's all about the mission and so I've been handicapped but I can't respond to what's going on with this Shadowgate film because I never saw it. I saw the trailer. I wanted the film. I wanted to promote it and I never got it and then she's arrested right when it's coming out and the dude that's in it's at my door unannounced and I'm not a rocket scientist but that's weird.

I don't know Millie's involved. I don't think Tori's involved. I just know the guy at my door came here to say Rodger Stone was the NSA New World Order. He's like the giant brain bug and Rodger Stone can't get a Skype connected just like I can't. So I can promote freedom. I'm a good orator. I love God. I love justice. I love you but I'm not running Jack Diddley squad. I've got problems with my own you know balance of my own checkbook. So good orator. I see this and I just say something's going on here. I haven't figured out what it is. I don't know the answers. I don't know who's good and who's bad but I'm going to get to the bottom of it and you've got a commitment from me. Whatever I find out's going on with this

because it's got Q-tard stuff written all over it. I am going to give you that information. I saw a few things I haven't gotten into because I don't want to embarrass people right now but I got a good idea of what's going on and I got to tell you Brennan is just trying to sabotage our movement. And Brennan I was told oh Brennan is giving us info. He's actually good. I told people are you crazy? Are you crazy? So we'll figure it all out. Just keep promoting America and freedom and justice and go try 2020. Covid's overall a hoax. We'll expose the whole thing together. Why did you throw that in?

I'm going to shout out his mixtape. Just so you know everybody buy my mixtape. Covid is all a hoax. Yeah. So Alex is struggling with this. I think I could help him solve this mystery. You surround yourself with shitheads. Yeah. So stop doing that. This is this is so much listening to two people on project Camelot go. I think the greys are behind this. No, no, no. I think the raptoids are behind this. Yeah, this is exactly the same level of like fine. Fight it out amongst yourselves in the stars. Yeah, neither of your answers will end up being correct. Yeah, exactly. Now Jordan, there's something interesting that happened over the course of this weekend. What's that? And as Monday and Tuesday rolled around,

I noticed that on Monday, Alex on band.video had his Saturday report where he talked about Milly on a video on his Alex Jones page. Sure. He also had his Sunday broadcast up on band.video. What about its Friday broadcast? Friday's up there. Okay, but you know what now that Saturday video and his Sunday show are gone gone. They're gone from band.video. Yes, yep. They are not there in the in thread. I'm looking at it right here. They have a video of Roger Stone talking about Trump's brother or of course is a video of Austin Knights celebrating in the in the pool water. That sounds great in the spring. Yeah, he has a show from Friday, August 14th. It goes to the the park. Austin Knights at the park, Roger Stone eulogizing

some video about Maxine waters and then August 17 Monday. There's no Sunday show on here. It's it's been taken down. Interesting. They don't do that. He doesn't retract things though. You know they don't do that. Yeah, I don't see that happening regularly with Alex's show where things are just gone and I think it's probably because this is embarrassing. Maybe maybe a little maybe a little bit embarrassing. Maybe a little bit embarrassing. Yeah, I I understand it always. It always sucks when you get you get jumped. I think Alex is going to put a painting of a horse's head in Milly's man. I don't know I and obviously somebody will refuse to hang it up. I want to say that I wish him well. I'm not sure I do now. I want to say I wish

him more and utter confusion for forever. Yeah, it was entertaining. I like this way better. Yeah, it was. It was pretty fun and I think that it wouldn't have been nearly as fun if he hadn't watched and knew about Shadowgate. Sure. Sure. You know, I think that really helps understand and it makes it more enjoyable for us to see him wrestling with this. Yeah. So incompetently Alex. I mean look, I feel like my advice would be like higher, better people, but as soon as that comes out of my mouth, I realize you can't. No, it's impossible. Yeah, the the whole better people would never work for him. Exactly. The like the the path of the career has led to a point where you can't get anyone good to work for you. Exactly. Get these people to work for you and

inevitably. Sure. Millie's going to be able to get some great footage of yelling at protesters pretty regularly. You'll be able to get that. It'll be great, but whenever she gets ambitious, you might end up with something like this because she has no instincts and we'll talk to somebody like Patrick Berge and be like this guy is the greatest expert ever. Oh yeah. She should have run the other way and blocked him on Twitter like Dan Bongino. So stupid. Anyway, what fun. It never occurred to me. He did it that if this guy is telling me even people that I like even people that are in my universe refuse to talk to this guy, maybe I should avoid him. Instead, she was like, oh, this is a scoop for me. This is a scoop that's too dangerous for

everyone else to touch. Yeah, she got conned to. Yep. Yep. Oh, man. Anyway, Jordan, let's wrap this up by listening to some voicemails. People have sent in here. That's a great way to end it. That's a nice little break. Yeah. That's a smart move. Yeah. Well, one of the things too is like I felt like it's always difficult to figure out exactly how to end. Yeah. You know, I don't often it doesn't feel all that gratifying to have a wrap up of. So my point is Alex is done. There is a little bit of that. So let's hear from the people. Okay. Hi. I'm calling this with the understanding that this is the new knowledge fight phone number calling because the minute that you said that you had a phone number, I just started dialing it.

Why not? So I think what I've decided my call is going to be about is a couple months ago, I engaged with maybe both of you guys on Twitter and said Q and non-anonymous crossover when and you both responded to me. You were very nice on Twitter, which I know Twitter is not always known for. I've realized later. The whole reason I found your show was to admit. So I didn't admit that online, but I'm going to get to you now. You guys have a great show. Bye. We appreciate that. I like that honesty. Yeah. That's a good impulse. Yeah. No need to feel ashamed. No. No. Don't feel ashamed. I think that honestly the fact that he went out of his way to call us and call himself fun. I respect him more than I applaud it. Yes. Perfect. Also he brings up a good point

and that is that I don't know how to make a custom outgoing message. So it is just a weird voice that doesn't say knowledge fight or anything. So I have noticed a trend of a lot of people's messages start with fucking hope. This is knowledge right. This is our version of you like every time I say hello. They don't know that it's me. So that we always have to do this. One of these days maybe I'll figure out how to leave a message. Anyway, here's another call. Wanted to just let you know I watched that video of Alex Jones walking around with the tiny bullhorn and boys and funny. So thank you for that. And thanks for doing the podcast. What a what a voice. What a deep fucking voice. That's coming from me.

Yeah, it's great. Tiny bullhorn was a big hit. Tiny bullhorn. Everyone loves it. That's too good. No, it's just too good. Too good for this world. Yeah, fellas. I go by kite. I am a non binary furry and I've been a fan of the show for a little while now and I'm going through the backlog of episodes catching up. And I just want to say I really appreciate the show. It really is something I enjoy listening to at work. Helps me get through my day a lot. Appreciate you guys. Thanks for doing what you do. Hell yeah. Thank you very much. Shout out to our non binary folks out there and our furry peeps. Hell yeah. That's great. Shout out. All right. Next call here Jordan. Hey Pat guys. My name is Ashley and I love you guys so you

make me laugh so hard. Jordan, when you start giggling, I have to pause the show because I lose it when you start laughing. I know she's giggling and I feel like giggling. But the reason that I decided to call is because the episode that you did about Alex going to the park with the tiny bullhorn was just, I mean a masterpiece. And I just saw I'm reading your news articles here and I find this one by Complex. And it's about if Alex Job called out, Alex Job called out for harassing park employees over wearing masks. And the first line is armed with a tiny bullhorn, unending conspiracy theories. Alex Jones was filmed yelling at park employees in Austin, Texas.

I don't know if you guys helped the writers, but God that is just so great. And the tweets that people are tweeting because of this just so amazing. God, I love your show. It is really helping me get this horrible COVID-19 quarantine lockdown mess. Anyway, you guys are awesome. I love you guys so much. Bye. Bye. Thank you, Ashley. I don't love the tiny bullhorn. I mean, I need to, I'm backing away. Her giggle is way more infectious than mine. I think so. She just giggled and I was like, this is the happiest I've ever felt. Yeah. I think she is much better than you fair. That might just be because of familiarity with you, though. Like I hear that laugh a lot. Yeah, you're annoyed by it at this point, not annoyed, just exhausted,

not exhausted. I'm exhausted in general, but not to the left. It's more just. You know, what's the right word white noise? No, a ringing sensation in your numb is a good one. Yeah, like numb, but also this tiny bullhorn is really made some waves. I think I think my next tattoo. I think we're going to go with the tiny bullhorn tiny bullhorn. So how I picture it in my head is a bullhorn and then next to it like a giant quarter, you know, like for scale, like a quarter. Okay, that's a little conceptual. That might be difficult to pull off with the tattoo. No, I don't think so. Okay, you just have like a quarter and then I scaled down bullhorn, maybe with little measurement. Yeah, okay. I see that. That's how I see my head. I

like it. I feel like. Oh, no, this phone line is now going to become tack guys. Your people are just recommended to you. No, that was my idea. She didn't say no. I know, but by you giving you this, yeah, that's true. Yeah, there we go. Let's get this next call here. Okay. Hello, this is Lawrence calling from sunny New Mexico. I'm hoping like hell I reached the knowledge fight. Although the British sort of voice doesn't inspire confidence. I was just wondering if you guys could do like some kind of Jordan origin episode. He keeps dropping weird hints about like growing up in a cult and being groomed to be the Messiah or something. And I don't know. That sounds interesting. Anyway, love the show. Keep up the great work, dude.

We have great news. That story is told on an episode that we did a little Q&A episode on the website. Yeah, it's on the homepage, knowledge fight.com. If you just scroll down, you can find our Q&A episodes that we did there. And that's as good a time as any also to point out that we have a lot of calls that have come in. And so we'll be also recording some Q&A's in the future. Yeah, that would be great because a number of people. I've heard some of these voicemails. They're questions that kind of require maybe some answer depth thought. Yeah. Yeah. And actually it probably prompts for larger conversations. And so I feel like they'd be more appropriate in a isolated like sort of special setting as opposed to as part of our episodes.

I like the idea of instead of you reading a question being able to play the clip of the question. That's way more personal and fun. I enjoy that. Yeah, it was fun. So there'll be some more of those Q&A's, but the story of Jordan's cult past is on there for anyone who's curious. Indeed. One last call here. Hi. Is this a 773 guy? A guy to tell. We do this every time. Ancient Egyptian artifact. I was looking to buy some old funny. Okay. Thanks. I think this guy was looking for a 773 touch guys. I don't. He's looking for Egyptian stuff. Now I want us to have touch guys. Why didn't you get that one? I don't know. I don't know. Knowledge fight your source for all things touch. All right. Tattoos and mummies. We got it all. Tattoos and tuts. All right. Well,

this has been an interesting look into the phone mail bag. So we'll be back Jordan. But until then we have a website. Indeed. We do. It's knowledge fight dot com. Yep. We're also on Twitter. We are on Twitter. It's that knowledge underscore fight and I go to bed Jordan. We're also on Facebook. We are Facebook. You'd like to try to and then if you could please find a bail fund or local charity in your area to help out with people doing God's work. Yep. We'll be back. But until then I'm Neo. I'm Leo. I'm DZX Clark. I'm Daryl Rundis. I am also distrustful of the people in that documentary. Andy and Kansas. You're on the air. Thanks for holding. Well, Alex, I'm a first time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you.