Knowledge Fight - #474: June 6, 2016

Episode Date: August 26, 2020

Today, Jordan sends Dan on a Time Travel Adventure into the past to see what was happening on Alex Jones' show back on 6/6/16, the most recent Devil Date.  In this installment, Alex teases that he may know who Trump is going to pick as his VP, Rob Dew goes to a fascist rally in Germany and finds a friend, and Tucker Carlson proves himself a sooth-sayer.

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today? Well, my bright spot today involves looking into the old mail bags. Got a couple of really nice things. First of all, also another sort of subsidiary bright spot on is people responded so amazingly to the picture of the painting that Matt sent of Leo Zagami. Yes, yes, on Twitter and I just think so much positivity that's so great and being able to share that. It's very, very fun. The people are just the best looking at it up on the wall. Also another thing here in the mail bags. I'm addicted to zip. That was a quick zip. It was a small mail bag. Got an awesome package from a guy who's a great name. Dan over in the UK. I sent this package of candies sure and chocolates stuff like

curly whirly. Yes, I'm looking at one hungrily right now. Curly whirly's Marmite. That's not candy. No, that's a spread. It is. I've not had a chance to try that. Put it on hot sauce yet. I've not. There's some hob knobs. There's a lot of cool like candies from England that like yeah you don't. We don't have here. We don't have any of but then also for some reason. Worthers originals. Yeah. Well, why not? Where there's originally great? No matter where you're from. Not sure why cross the pond on the pond. I can get those here. Dan not the not British ones. That's fair. Maybe they're different. I haven't tried them yet. It's possible, but it's really cool. Real milk chocolate in there. Worthers. It's really

cool and I really appreciate it. And I would say that if anybody out there is listening in foreign countries and you have various candies that you have there that you can't get in the United States. Don't don't don't stop yourself. Y'all think Dan likes novelty seltzers. You have no idea about novelty candies. It's something really from my youth because my dad was a religious studies professor and every year he would go to the SPL conference, the Society of Biblical Literature, and that would often be in foreign countries. Of course, and so he would go and it would be always really exciting when he'd come back because he'd have a bag of candies from foreign places. Yeah, and it was just so interesting how

there's so like the similarities and differences and I often find. I mean, maybe it's a selection thing, but I often find that out of America, candies are way better. Oh, that's what they are way more interesting. Well they make all the stuff with better ingredients and shit like that because they don't allow us to. They don't allow people to get away with the same kind of shit. I mean even kind of conceptually. Oh yeah. I often find more interesting textures and stuff like that. Are you you're calling Americans bland Dan? I think that's what's going on here. Just some of the candy. I don't think you're wrong though. So anyway, thank you Dan. I appreciate that. And so yeah, my bright spot is these candies. That's what

wonderful. That's very. That's very good. Yeah, my bright spot Dan seems it's it's very trivial, very trivial, but it revealed something important to me. It is. My hair is getting very long because I have not gotten a haircut long out of the the you know what's going on. Yeah, I cut that for you. I don't want you to. So I is getting in my hair starting to eat it starting to eat it while I'm eating food and my partner gives me one of her hair bands and I wore it and it was amazing Dan. Oh man, and I realized that the reason that I'd never even considered wearing a hair band or asking for it is because where I grew up it was always so associated with the with femininity. Sure, you know only women would

wear those headbands and I examined myself and I see that I'm still carrying those gender biases breaking even now in thirty three and I wore that headband and I was like God dammit I'm a fully actualized man. I feel wearing this headband. It was amazing. I congratulate you on your progress. I feel I feel alive. That's great. Yeah, I'm happy for you. Thank you and you're I mean you're not wearing one now. No, I'm not. I can't wear it with that. This is going to end up in a like a big old ponytail or something. It's not going to end up in a ponytail. Your hair is it's got to go where it's got to go. Yeah, I've had longer. You have had longer. It's usually a bad idea, especially unless you're taking

care of it. I'm not doing it. I'm never doing the ponytail. Let's do it. People's I'm going to write that down as a statement as the bald spot expands. The ponytail becomes a more attractive option. That's that's what I hear. So Jordan today we've got a really interesting episode to go over and it is as promised not present day Alex Jones. Hell I went down a lot of roads in terms of preparing this episode. I tried to look at a project Camelot episode that was free on her YouTube channel where she interviewed Judy McEvitt's ethically sourced project project. Exactly, free range. Yeah, the person she interviewed the doctor from Plandemic and I thought like this is going to be fun right.

It wasn't fun. It was a real disaster and also I tried to go back to the Jim Baker well. But unfortunately, I don't feel good about it because Jim Baker had a stroke and since he's come back, I don't it really is. It's kind of hard to watch. He's not 100% yet. Well, certainly and it feels bad to make fun of even if I'm not making fun of that right or his health issues. It still just doesn't. It doesn't feel right to be like you're talking about the end times. Yeah, no kidding. And then you know here he is. So I had I had a real challenge. You had to me of like trying to figure out what what to do an episode about. So I asked you for a suggestion for a date indeed and you came

through with terrible ones at random, but then nailed it. Well, when you choose random dates, you have the unfortunate possibility of choosing things that we've already gone over. True. So true, but the third choice that you gave after to two misses was June six twenty sixteen indeed six six sixteen, which was not random. No, it was definitely but I got to say maybe destiny. Maybe I'm not sure, but this is this is a lot of coincidence. Who cares? Yeah, it worked out. This episode was a lot of fun. All right. It was revitalizing to go over. No, it reminded me that Alex Jones didn't used to do as bad a job like he's always sucked. He's been a liar and racist, but he used to at least

have a little care. We got here for a reason. Yeah, you know I hear for a reason. I didn't start this show about twenty twenty Alex. No, no, the show exists and there's a certain obligation to cover his dumb ass in the press or but like it's really boring. A lot of the time. There's a lot of just repetition, just complete a lack of creativity beyond reason. Yeah, and you know, going back to this twenty sixteen episode like obviously he's already decided he loves Trump in June twenty sixteen, but it's not the same as now. He's not just sitting around yelling about the devil. He's almost not at all talking about how. I mean, absolutely not at all talking about how the globalist want to drink

your children's blood. Sure, like it's well they didn't in twenty sixteen. Dan it's so refreshing to hear this and be like all right. Yes, this there was a different time. You forget that he used to try. Yeah, a little yeah. Well, the president used to try. Yeah, and so I really appreciated that and I enjoyed it and I think that there's a lot of really fun stupid shit that we're going to get into and excited couple of surprise guests couple of surprise guess one guest that is surprising and then one legit surprise cameo appearance that wow jaw dropping jaw dropping to me to you okay not anybody else sure. I think a normal person would just be like that's weird, but for me I was like well pretty

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from today's show. I want Steve a mechanic to come on soon to do a whole hour on his mother. Yeah. Yeah, please. Please. Yes, I would like that very much. Great. Let's have Steve talk about how his mom was actually like Harriet Tubman. I want to see what his mom has done. Globetrotting across the world and solving problems. His mom resolved World War One or something. Obviously I want I want him to be a young Indiana Jones kind of situation. Yeah, that would be awesome. I'd be great. Yeah, so I was really excited about the possibility that that's maybe somewhere in the archives. We might find it someday. Yeah, so we start the episode off and I got really. I got really excited because Alex

has he's getting ambitious and it doesn't it doesn't go great. All right, but he's ambitious. We have several very informative guests joining us today. Rob do is in Deutschland to come to Goldberg 2016. The global government meeting every four years since its inception. Every fourth year meets in the United States on the East Coast. This is the first time they are meeting in Europe on the fourth year and that's obviously because Europe is in such crisis and world government is tottering on the edge of collapse. What great news. There's a Bilderberg meeting going on. You just randomly chose a date. It's right around Bilderberg. Yeah, it's the mark of the beast kind of and Alex knowing that there's Bilderberg going on

has sent out a guy who's definitely in the running for the title of least competent info warrior to report on it. I like it right off the bat. Alex is correct about the 2016 Bilderberg meeting that it was being held in Dresden, Germany. It didn't start until June ninth, but he does have the location correct. So good for him past that the rest of the stuff he's saying is pure bullshit. Okay, Alex asserts that they hold the meeting in the United States every four years, but because Europe is in a crisis of world government or something, they've decided to forego that very regular four year cycle tradition for the first time. Alex literally said the moment. The moment he said that that makes no sense. What is this? The

fucking olympics now get the shit out of here. What are you talking about? So this this is where it becomes just way too clear that Alex isn't even close to an expert in the fields. He pretends to be the world's top guy on because there is no four year cycle and Bilderberg location history to say there's no way four years prior in 2012 Bilderberg did meet in the United States in Chantilly, Virginia and you know what four years before that in 2008 they were in the United States as well. The problem is that two data points don't prove a consistent pattern. For instance, four years before this in 2004, Bilderberg was in Stressa, Italy. If you continue out the four year cycle, here's where they met in the next years. When if Alex was right,

they should have all been in the United States. Right. Okay. In 2000, they were in Genval, Belgium in 1996. They were in King City, Ontario, Canada, sister cities with an American technically still the United States in 1992. They were in Ivan Lebes in France in 1988. They were in Telves, Austria in 88. Austria was an American state. That's true. Yeah in 1984. It was Sweden in 1980. It was in West Germany in 1976. They didn't meet and in fact you have to go back to 1964 to find the next year in that alleged four year cycle where Bilderberg was supposed to meet in the United States where they actually met in the United States. There we go out the gate. Love it. Yeah. Love it. I love that kind of nonsense. Here are the years that Bilderberg

has had their meeting in the United States and if you pay close attention, you'll see that there is no consistent pattern for years. Nineteen fifty seven. Yes. Nineteen sixty four. Nineteen seventy one. Okay. Nineteen seventy eight. All right. Nineteen eighty five. Four is two. Nineteen ninety. Nineteen ninety seven. Two thousand two. Two thousand eight. All right. 2012. What about the Winter Olympics? When do we have those? Twenty seventy. Okay. Alex is reporting to his audience that there's something weird about this twenty sixteen meeting being held in Germany because based on his fictional expertise, they should be in the United States that year. Of course. That naturally must mean that the globalists are in a panic because of Europe, which is just another

narrative element that Alex is making about a thin air. There is no four year cycle when the Bilderberg group meets in the United States. Alex just thinks that because he's a dumb dumb and he makes a lot of assumptions. They were in the United States in 2008 and 2012. Therefore, it must be the case that they have a regular four year cycle. So it's weird. They're not here in 2016. This is only relevant for one reason and that's because it reveals that Alex doesn't know anything about the Bilderberg group because if he had any kind of deep familiarity with the subject, he would know that this supposed pattern and where they meet isn't real. Someone like a big Jim Tucker or Daniel Estolin. They make up a lot of bullshit, but they wouldn't make a mistake

like that. It's so easily like wait. Here's where they were. Yeah. The Alex just doesn't even give a shit about love it like anything. I love the swing. You see it twice and you're like well. Obviously, if it was ever if it was four years twice, that's almost a pattern. Yeah, how the scientific method works. I'm just going to go with forever is how that's how long that's been. I suspect part of the reason for this is that Alex may have gotten an interest in covering Bilderberg meetings in 2008 or something. I wonder why maybe he just started. Interesting thing happened in 2000. I am. I don't that can't possibly be true because the Bilderberg was a name that rang out in conspiracy worlds before that of course and it's in end game. He went to the

Bilderberg meeting in in. What was that in Istanbul? Yeah, but he doesn't care about or and that was that was forever ago. You don't need to remember before Obama was president. He would have to know that in 2004 they weren't to the United States. You would have to know that it would be impossible for him. The guy who I'm sure would have been there if it was there. It's very weird. So Alex is a very xenophobic and very bigity. Yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. That that is not changed. Yeah. He's rambling here a little bit about non-white social workers and Muslim cops in foreign countries. Sure. Most the social workers in the U.K. that come and take your children. I've had members of parliament on that have written articles for a lot of telegraph and

you name it about this are not even really from the U.K. They hardly even speak English and an alarming number of the police chiefs in Sweden in Germany and France and in the U.K. are also Muslims and they hardly even speak English. They weren't even born in the U.K. but they're now your enforcer. In fact this was pointed out that most of the security at the De Gaulle airport, Charles De Gaulle airport there in Peri are Muslims and full hardcore practicing Muslims with hot jibs. The women are whoa only their eyes showing and they're running security and then up goes the plane and it blows up. Whoa. Whoa. So this this line of thinking is consistent. That's with Alex. You know an alarming one is an alarming number of Muslims anywhere for Alex.

He's talking about police chiefs and an alarming number. Yeah. Yeah. That alarming number. That's a convenient word for him. He's alarmed by by Muslim women at a pool supply shop. Exactly. Any Muslim cop would be alarming to him. So I don't I don't trust your calculus here. Yeah. I mean it you know no matter what even though when I'm saying that like listening to this is way less of a stupid chore compared to the present day. It's it has to be giant picket. Yeah. It must be pointed out and stressed that I'm not saying that he was good which or better which I think is a monster which I think is something that we should very much take with us as a reminder of all how Republicans and and bullshit are acting right now. That's

like oh this is something brand new for them. This all this racism that we're seeing right now that's Trump's Republican Party just like Alex. It was fucking there man. Yeah. Yeah. You know I think you could get into an interesting argument about like how much of it is always been there and allowed to become public and how much of it was maybe something that wasn't really there but got turned into racism because of the the the way is the Trump frames things and the Trump community frames. Yeah. I wonder if Alex has any interesting thoughts about that on this episode we'll see later interesting. So at this point in twenty sixteen Alex and honestly this hasn't changed sure. Alex believes that he doesn't cover news about info wars. Of course not whenever

info wars is in the news. He doesn't want to talk about it. He you don't want to make the story about yourself. He does say that in the present day and it turns out he also says that of course in twenty sixteen when he's getting ready to cover news only about himself. This controversy started about a week ago and I never even covered it despite the fact that info wars dot com is at the center of it and I'll be honest with you. I have a real blind spot to news that we are the center of because I don't want to just be a gonzo journalist and report on myself bad news about your future real bad news about your future. Yeah. Oh boy. Yeah. That's a good belly laugh right there. That feels good. That's a rumbly. Yeah. Oh man. Meanwhile like in the

present day Alex is just on and on about his own personal troubles. Love it. Love it. I'm in the news because of being sued by the Southern District of New York. I'm in the news because of being sued by these people. I'm in the news all the time but I don't really cover info wars related stuff. Certainly not except for the ways in which it is a Rosetta Stone. Yeah. Exactly. The globalists. It turns out. So it turns out that what had gone on. This is one of those things that really goes to show you how insane the twenty sixteen election cycle was. I didn't even remember this happening. It's something that should have been disqualifying on its face for Trump as a candidate but I don't know what cared coming up at the bottom of the hour. I will spend a few

minutes on this whole Klamath Falls Southern Oregon Northern California controversy and it's a synthetic controversy with headlines all over the news and on TV the last week that Donald Trump has been caught red handed using info wars material and it's he's a total cook saying that there is a invasive species fish in several major reservoirs that were built to supply water to farmers in Northern California and Southern Oregon and you could do an entire college education course on the media media manipulation deception just off of this you couldn't so Alex is mad about an article that came out on June 4th in salon and this was about how Trump had used info wars as a source at a campaign rally that he held in Fresno California right full disclosure

my dad's family is from Fresno and no offense to the good people that happen to live there but fuck that city okay not a fan fair enough at the rally Trump denied that there was actually a drought in California and that in fact the only reason that water was even an issue was because there was an EPA rule that required dumping some some of this water it needed to be flushed back into the San Francisco Bay in order to maintain the maritime ecosystem there this is true the dumping water party yeah the EPA does do that but the scale of this water flushing out of the Bay isn't even close to being relevant in terms of causing a drought according to the salon article the use of water in this way can take up to eight hundred thousand acre feet of water per year

which sounds like a lot but when you consider that the California water system quote manages over forty million acre feet of water a year it puts things into perspective nah that's almost like what point five percent that's a shit ton about two percent of water that's being managed by California and it's not just flushed out to the bay for no reason part of it is to protect endangered species that alex is derisive of being a little fish and so did trump and nobody cares but also preserving the waterways around the coast is really important because a large part of those cities their economies involve fisheries and related industries yeah around that it's a balancing ecosystem resource management yeah i know that's a whole cycle and there's a ecosystem

it's a system that exists yeah ecology wise right and so like you can do this whole grand standing about like this small amount of water is being rerouted when it could be used for farms that are in need and these farmers are out of job but if the water was directed and these ecosystems collapse then these fisheries die and you get to be like obama caused these fisheries to mortgage our future today alex posted an article on info wars there was a broad attack on the epa that oversimplified the issue and made it sound like the water was a large enough amount to make a difference in terms of drought conditions the california was facing and that it was done just because the loony left wanted to protect a little fish sounds familiar this is

because the story was never about the drought it was about the pain of the drought being used to fuel the machine that the right wing needed to attack government regulation of course it's unclear if trump actually got this news from info wars since the article is just alex he reposted something second article that he found on a website called the federalist papers sure but it's probably a safe bet that trump got it from that article wherever he happened to read it yeah and in force seems like it's a more prominent outlet where trump has been a guest at this point steven miller is a fan yeah so you can make your own conclusion about where you think you might have gotten it from but uh it it's uh wow man that's a really messed up thing that happened

everybody knew everybody knew everybody knew salon warned everybody fucking knew guys we are where we are because of us oh man yeah brutal so uh there's a couple of moments that i find really funny on this episode and there are particularly moments where alex is saying something and then the point he's making gets immediately undercut like there's a couple of like i mean there's no other way to describe it other than like slip on a banana peel moment okay and so in this clip he's complaining about how the the family is under attack all right families never existed there's next they're gonna say that not just that father and mother is bad but that it never really even existed they're already coming out and saying you know it was always really

a village that raised the children not a family see that's which is true but you that was your other extended family you could trust them the state came in and said it's not good to discipline your own children then they said it's not good to have your neighbors watch them and your kids can't be in their front yard their backyard unattended even when they're 11 or 12 years old they will arrest you see they kill the village they build artificial systems and then they tell us the state is the village good save good save that's i used to say that it takes more than just a nuclear family now it did wait okay shit oh boy uh but they are they're the new village what and then they tell you it's not good to hit your kids yeah that's that's a great that's a great

train of thought okay first off they say you can't let your neighbors watch your kids and then they're like don't hit them what how do you see what everybody knows that's the progression it's a little little bit that that moment of like they say they like to try and trick you into thinking it takes a village and it does it does huh i like those moments a lot those moments where alex's brain his mouth gets a little bit ahead of him yeah it's really fun yeah so alex is i would say that the beginning of this episode is largely centered around this slawne article and alex being mad about it sure there are two driving things that make this episode that i would say were like the varsity narratives of this episode and this is not one of them this is sort of a garnish at the

beginning sure then there's the rob do is in germany and then there's a second a second thing all right but for now we're still dwelling in this space where alex is like oh the media attacks me it's because they're scared look at this donald trump uses alex jones as an actual news source oh they are so scared of what we cover they are so scared of how we read the defense bills where they say they have reeducation camps actually use that term they are so freaked out that we know how government works they're so freaked out we know about shadow government and cog they're so freaked out we understand the larger battle plan of read their white papers they're so freaked out notice these not saying the deep state that meme hasn't really taken hold of it

it's not there yet trump hasn't complained about that they haven't needed a new reason to because it back then it was still the regular government yeah you know you weren't in the government fucking up so you didn't have to create a secret government yeah yeah so you know they're really afraid of alex and like the hard hitting news that he covers and you know great i appreciate that that's how he has to experience this sure but when you take a step back and you consider like what are the stories that you're promoting what are the things that you're taking your time to cover it it just doesn't fisheries well it doesn't make sense this is one of his big stories we also have another article up on info wars dot com written by paul joseph watson

that's going viral via drudge report dot com right now video obese woman starts crashing store after ebt card gets refused that's a that's a story you're pushing yeah why because apparently the local news wherever that was didn't have enough people on site on site what is they needed the assist what do we do it i'm flabbergasted and up next cat learns how to ride a skateboard dan i i don't know if that's an important story to cover unless all you're trying to do is demonize people who are dependent on assistance program of course and trying to attack just the very idea of social welfare now the government wasn't doing anything else important around what june sometime 2016 nothing else was going on i'm pretty sure that nobody was even talking

about the supreme court for any reason hey jordan i'm going to tell you this right now what if there was anything important going on you would not know you would not know that you would know that alex is mad about salon sure someone trashed a store because of ebt issues why not rob do is in germany and then here is the big here's the part city narrative this this is the out the gate so exciting all right okay this is this this was great this is where the episode really hooked me roger stone did not tell me who the vp choice alone some highway of donald trump is for vice president but he did concur with my prediction of who it will be he said no one knows but trump at this point he's not gonna have any

meetings that he's been in with the shortlist hearing what trump thinks and trump bouncing it off it doesn't want to talk about about quarry luandowski the embattled head of the campaign who really is just a glorified trail manager right now but when luandowski goes on television says that he's heading up the vetting process that is not the case they brought in a former top lawyers for ronald reagan who are doing the background checking and research on who trump likes so this is really interesting because alex is teasing out that like there's a big scoop here possibly about trump's vp pick right and we know because we're in the present or the future from this episode that on july 15th trump announced

that it was mike pence yes and i was really fascinated to know who does he think it's going to be yeah yeah and so when alex says this towards the beginning of the show i'm like fuck yes this is this is yeah we got to find out i can't wait to see what the discussion was all about totally talking to roger stone about it's going to be great and roger stone is essentially telling that telling alex that the actual campaign manager for trump is just a booking guy and actually roger stone is still running the fucking campaign yeah yeah all right there's two things there one is that this is a point in time of alex's show where like he understands showmanship oh yeah like he's teasing this and he doesn't see shit about specifics until the end

interesting he gets you interested by this thing this right of information that he may or may not have sure and then instead of just rambling about it immediately he waits to pay it off at the end of the show so you got to listen to the whole thing hold on are you telling me that after teasing this information we are not just going to hear the next five minutes being him talking all about it and then the five minutes after that being him teasing as if he pretends like he didn't talk about it he does tease it but he doesn't say a name he doesn't say anything that would give you any indication of like where his head is at and tell it's time to pay it off this is like basically like how old school wrestling would be yeah if the pay per view is going to be two

guys fighting each other you keep them away from each other you don't you don't give away the fight for free and alex isn't giving it away until until it's time well done and then the second thing is really interesting to see that alex hates kory luandowski because he hates all of the people who he perceives to be the media people yeah who are keeping trump away from him yeah he hates all the people who are just like they're the people that should really like me yeah like he hates brad parskow of course now it's it's because they're the people like he can project his rejection on to yeah instead of realizing that trump doesn't want to talk to him right he can be like oh it's it's fucking luandowski yeah in a sense though maybe in 2016 before trump actually

wins they they probably did have to like keep him away you know like they they probably were like hey buddy no you can't talk to alex and rogers over here in his ear like i got the russians and i got alex which do you choose talk to alex he's weird yeah he's a crazy he's really fun you love it yeah it'll be great i'll get you a job there um yeah i would say it's probably more likely that they had to do more of it yeah at this point for sure um so alex has three names but again he's not going to tell you anything okay but kory luandowski you know roger stone and then x no but roger had a pretty severe reaction and roger when alex said one of these names i came up with my own list of three people and stone actually his eyes got big he gulped

i've got to know him good he's such a character i just like him as a person and he just said well you said i don't even get that from me and he visibly kind of turned a little bit red and was concerned that trump would think he told me oh my god so roger gulped alex says this a number of times this gulp is apparently a big tell of rogers which is going to come in handy when i play poker with it next week okay that's going to be important to roger i got a texas hold them game scheduled oh did you just say that i might have a pair of threes gulp all in so roger had a pretty severe reaction to alex's names uh and we'll get to that later okay so rob do's in germany but it turns out he's not alone sure you've got rob do and josh oh and in

dutchland what's left of it for the next 10 days bill deberg kicks off on thursday so rob is there with josh owens and that's really interesting because josh owens is the guy who has since left info wars and wrote an article for the new york times magazine about how he regrets working there right uh how alex is an asshole and i bet he doesn't regret getting that sweet ass vacation to germany for ten fucking days yeah that's not bad what were they doing covering bill deberg he was having a great time yeah it doesn't seem like it would be work intensive no no no you just make up lies go around to the camera maybe yell at people every now and again part of your job is to say things that aren't true yeah i work hard well just don't even do the

job and that's something that he even has brought up in that article about how they manufactured situations in order to create optics totally particularly around islamophobia and demonizing of muslims and so when he is there i i just think like this would be one of those times where i actually maybe would want to talk to an info wars but like what was it oh yeah germany yeah but then i realized like i still probably couldn't trust whatever like i we went to we went to berlin for a day we were covering we got a couple of with look dresden friend well yeah but you take the train it's ten days yeah plenty of time of course you take the train they filmed three hours six hours of b roll and they're done for ten days what else do you have to do so they are not on

location in dresden yet of course so alex got to fill some time and so what he does is he talks about how he's got this video with roger coming up later where they talk about the vp pic but this is pre recorded okay now alex talks about recording these segments and he goes way out of his way to talk about some personal shit with roger that makes me fairly uncomfortable and i honestly think is maybe an intentional move to try and humanize somebody that even alex has to know is a fucking scummy weirdo asshole in political surveys i was here on saturday to tape three different segments that we're going to air saturday sunday and then today on big topics with roger stone it's the real reason he came to town uh was to discuss a lot of inside baseball things coming up with

cleveland uh and to fill me in on a lot of things off of the record so that i could navigate into the future and he's filled me in on some things off record about a year ago that all came true and then again about six months ago and then a few months ago when he came back to austin texas so this is pretty important stuff obviously that i got briefed on but i can't talk about it until the future sure but we were talking about an hour back there in the conference room just he and i and he got a call from his wife and his 93 year old mother had come home from the hospital and they had just said look she's gonna die any day now but she's still all there she's an excruciating pain with lung cancer we're going to give her morphine she wants it

and uh he said she'd a minute or two and then he went around the out in the foyer area and i walked by and i saw tears in his eyes and he he got off the phone he goes that was the last time i'll probably ever talk to my mother while she's all there this is saturday at about noon she's uh about to go on morphine to super high dose she'll probably die the next 48 hours i've got to go finish a trump speech on sunday i'm going to leave here early now i was going to fly out sunday morning because all the storms i'm going to leave this afternoon and he he he pulled himself up i mean he wasn't even really crying he pulled himself up we came in here shot the segments and went out to lunch talked about his mother and what a great lady she was

and i always love hearing about people's mothers what like this is weird that is weird i would feel like if i were roger just as a person i would be like hey man cut that out yeah like don't talk about my personal shit like that on your show yeah like i i wouldn't talk about private things that we've talked about like without you bringing it up first yeah but part of when you're at died i wasn't going to bring it up and tell you we're gonna bring it up at all no of course no like it's not it's not appropriate this is someone else's business right but this is fucked up i'm not a psychopath who doesn't experience emotions like other human beings so roger's probably listening to this going like man way to tell a good story that makes me look very good you know

what thank you for not sharing the uh yeah i'm gonna pull the plug on her tomorrow i don't give a shit i'm gonna i'm gonna can i pull the plug on her through the phone can i reach through my phone and pull the plug on her i don't want to speculate about like him being that kind of a crass or like a cold dick but like it's it's um i i don't i feel very uncomfortable about this yeah i don't do that it's not appropriate don't do that so anyway uh it turns out that this this continued and roger his mother eventually did pass uh and he texted alex about it then roger stone called me about or texted me at about three fifteen last night saying yeah my mom just died you know thanks pal for all your support i have to be up at that time too strangely i i'd woken up

but that's a classy guy right there we'll be back it's classy guy what why is that classy because he thanked alex for being there for him in that moment all right which i mean like if this is a real story about their interaction then it is fine no it is it is a fine moment between two people guy going through something really difficult and alex is there for him and like i don't have any problem with the story and i i appreciate people supporting each other but i fucking have a problem with alex telling this story on air yeah yeah there's no indication that roger said hey go ahead and tell my business put my business on the streets i'm pretty sure donald trump junior was actually his source for this one could be yeah alex is uh he's not going to keep another

people's personal bids off his show not good at that he bids stays on the show at alex's world yeah so sjw's are a concern in twenty sixteen oh man alex is pretty mad at them of course and if you listen to this clip he's talking about a viral video that had come out a couple months prior and uh you'll see how sjw social justice warrior is really a proxy for alex to talk about race you see where the social justice warrior model is going remember san francisco a few months ago uh there at the college at the state college a young white freshman white locks has adopted all the fake culture superimposed by hollywood even talks with a made up pull up social justice warrior pull up inner city dialect oh you're crashing and gets

you're going down by two trendies oh god look like they're part african and the video just says it all it's just an excuse to be nasty evil mean thugs that was white water rafting yeah that was a mess that was him just being like all right i know that's a big that's a big rock i gotta try and avoid that but i'm gonna hit it a little bit but i'm not gonna hurt myself sure you did he's a trendy all right got around that rock nope so there was a viral video in 2016 that showed a white college student at san francisco state arguing with a black woman student about how the white guy had dreadlocks and the woman felt that this was cultural appropriation this is 100 percent not a story that needs to be covered

by a national outlet and next we've got a cat that learned how to skateboard dad there was a tiny bit of physicality between them but it's in the genre of people blocking each other not not really even close to what you'd call violence or fighting like alex is describing beat them up or it's not that this is the kind of discussion that should be allowed to be had in privacy and with vulnerability where each side is able to actually express what they feel about their side of the issue and hopefully they can both come away with a better understanding of other people's perspectives this is one of the very important things that college environments can facilitate as people from tons of different cultures and backgrounds are made to come together in one place to learn

the byproduct of that should be an intense broadening of your worldview and unfortunately that's a process that's not always free of hiccups it can definitely have a painful side effects for sure yeah you can end up with flare ups and misunderstandings and and hopefully if in a healthy environment you can facilitate those sorts of clashes if you want to call it that yeah and they can lead to growth they can lead to something better that's the thing that like most white conservatives are afraid of when it comes to college yeah the thing that terrifies them the most yeah you know like when i went away to school i left from a homogenous place and was suddenly thrust into cultures from everywhere that i've never experienced before

and then whenever i understood them i came back and my parents are like no i i realize that what i'm talking about is a little bit idealized yes to to to an extent but in a safe environment where people can assess their reactions to things that confuse them or seem foreign to them it's it is a growing thing and this sort of a conversation between someone with dreadlocks sure and a black student who sees this as cultural appropriation is a really great example of a conversation that the two of them could have a devoid of yeah a baggage and you'd hope conflict isn't inherently bad not always yeah so i watched the video and i cannot possibly imagine hosting a news show and thinking this was something that i should cover let alone something i would bring

up again a months later after it happened and you could pretty easily pretty easily tell why alex is especially by the way he's couching his language like this is about race to him this is a proxy for him to talk about that the white guy is someone who has quote adopted all the fake culture super imposed by hollywood and quote talks with a made up social justice warrior inner city dialect the black woman and her friend are quote trendies who look like they're part african who are looking for excuses to be quote nasty evil mean thugs it's pretty blunt stuff when you really get down to it and there's honestly another reality to this video and that is that alex is reporting on a fake version of what happened according to an article in

the golden gate express which was out long before this episode was recorded so alex has every reason to be aware of it if he cared at all this video did not include the entire exchange between the guy with dreadlocks and the woman the woman in the video who i will leave anonymous out of courtesy claimed that the guy with dreadlocks who i will also respect his anonymity walked past her while she was handing out flyers she made a passing joke about his dreadlocks to her friend and the dreadlocks guy called her a bitch all of which was not included in the video this sequence of events is verified by multiple other students who were there and saw the entire incident who said that the video only captured the second half of their exchange and this this woman ended up getting

doxed and like all sorts of threats thrown her way yeah yeah yeah because garbage yeah never had to do her a lot because of this there's no year on garbage it's everywhere the video was recorded by another student who posted it online omitting important context and framing the video as an out of control black student attacking a white guy for having dreadlocks alex is reporting on this shoddy framing of this video because that's the story he wants to tell the story that centers around the white student as the innocent if possibly misled by culture victim and the black student as an out of control thug who has to browbeat the white student to the submission it's a fake story but it's real to alex and to his audience because it's how they feel when they

see someone getting in trouble for saying the n word or they see people suggesting that confederate flags flying on government property is super fucked up that feeling is real to them and the edited version of this video provides the story that they need they need to hear that in order to maintain the illusion that this feeling that they have depicts reality if reality isn't going to justify my feelings i will make reality justify my feelings right and i mean like this happened months before like it's in april some of these i think it was actually march that the video came out and then in by april there were already you know write-ups about sure the circumstances how the video didn't capture everything right and i mean now here we are in june yeah even the entire

story doesn't rise to the level of alex needs to be talking about this it's it's something that campus folk who are in positions of guidance maybe or in some sort of position should facilitate a conversation between the two of them in a safe environment that should be the way this should proceed forward you don't need fucking racist ding dong right wing talk show hosts weighing in and turning this into some kind of important stage in ground of a culture sure that rush limba needs to be involved in any and all disagreements on most college campuses i don't think so i don't know why that these guys suddenly somehow always seem to choose interactions between white students and black students it's strange that it's so the only those situations but i guess they're uniquely

qualified to mediate those right dan i mean even if i saw this coming from the other direction like it's always hard to do these kind of abstract ideas because like what is a left wing version of alex i'm not entirely sure exactly what that is but if there was if there was one and there was you know covering this story is yeah look at this this woman yelling at this guy from dreadlocks yeah i would still think that was a little bit petty and a little bit beneath a nationally syndicated show to be taking on as an issue there's only one thing to say which is come on guys what are we doing here i think so what are we doing yeah come on so as if it needed to get worse here's alex talking about the the black woman in the video and her friend who are both black okay i don't care

whether it's white supremacist i don't care whether it's a bunch of trendy so-called black kids i mean those those two black people even call them that that's what they call themselves um getting in the face of that white kid that white nerd i mean they don't look black to me i mean i mean maybe 20 african white racist people when they're not sure of what words they can or cannot say and so they're like well i'm going to go out of my way to not appear racist almost always are then like i don't even know if these people are black yeah i see that's how i'm not racist i am but i'm certainly they don't look black to me wait you're going too far did you just hold on one so you're saying that these people appear to you to be 20 african so they're not

black enough because i'm not racist now let's what how what percent white do you think this nerd is that you're like you want to talk like how do you define 98 98 98 percent is white enough let's get into your definitions of things but i didn't say black because i'm not a racist okay sure i just said that 20 percent of a person is oh no alex has a really interesting relationship with racism at this point in his career because there's still kind of a balancing act that he's trying to put on which is like he really went whole hog with the tea party totally and they're very racist but he has to pretend that that's not he has a rates rights he has a real vested interest in appearing uh uh not racist at all but unfortunately every time he ends up talking about anything he says

flagrantly racist things like yeah like that is very very troubling as though he's like proud of himself for navigating the choppy waters of race right like he's like look at how great i am at not saying the n word wow congratulations hero yeah here's another attempt that does not go great the media has branded the tea party movement as racist so anyone promoting free market is now racist forever you are walled off now to be controlled by that and globalist programming at the university level that they're telling you your role they're telling you who you are you're a woman so you support lauria steinem you're black so you hate donald trump you're hispanic so you hate trump because trump pointed out that mexico's completely

nationalist controls its own borders and says it wants to quote reconquer the southwest and is dumping its criminals on us now does that mean you don't have a bunch of people donald trump rallies maybe ten percent that they're racist absolutely probably so why whoa hold on what what what happened there look i know but you're you're just being told that we're racist yeah there's no other conclu there's no way for you to guess that we're racist yeah i'm just saying that sure ten percent of us are racist but what so what yeah you're going to a truck rally ten percent of our races oh yeah sure what what are you going to leave a party because ten percent of them are nazis come on come on that's what happened with hitler and now how we now where

are we this is really weird defense that he's engaging in i am not sure i like it i like the idea that you could confess to a crime but if you just say it like you're not confessing the cops will be like nah you're fine you got it yeah i definitely i definitely totally killed that guy i didn't kill him though i would be pretty concerned about a ten percent racism i just very high yeah it's very high that seems too high i wonder where what positions that you know maybe if those ten percent weren't in positions of power right dan we could assume that that's that you know there you know what i'd be totally fine with ten percent racism in a group as long as it was also a group that was willing to discuss that the sort of unexamined parts of their belief system

that include races if there was a willingness to hear other viewpoints because i thought you know i think everybody even ourselves like there are things that we just are not aware of sure that need to be brought to our attention of course it's something that is a sort of a part of modern life totally um so look there's a race politics that's being played sure and it has to do with uh using minorities somehow but the globalists tried this before but with white people and it did not work out okay so alex talks about this a little bit these are people that use race based politics before but it failed in the 50s and 60s and so now they're desperate trying to do it from a minority perspective because you're the majority and if they can sell a racist agenda on

that it'll work great because whites on average will still be per capita the wealthiest group because they had the brainchild of a system that made more money they were taught to save money now they'll have to be protected by the political class they will go into a hardened defense mode and a new apart title be set up over everyone else interesting theories also they were taught to save money is an interesting way to say they were allowed to participate in the economy oh no no no no no no no no no no no no sure okay that's a fun rewriting of things they were taught to save money now of course the the other people weren't allowed to have money uh so they had a lot more money to save you could look like they were taught to save their money your your money

they took and put it in a bank for these white people were able to accrue generational wealth they were taught it they were taught it it had nothing to do with stealing oh fuck yourself so apparently a new apartheid is coming do you know this is something that i've really found i think undergirds so much more of this than than what people are really talking about so many of these people on the right are genuinely i think in favor of of that kind of utter white hegemony because they think if they were in black people's situation they would obviously already have killed everyone in the country right now because they would never allow themselves to be treated so terribly so they assume that black people

given the opportunity to put their uh boot heel on top of them would treat them the exact same way that white people treated them they think they have it coming and that's why they're fighting against it yeah i think i think that there's something to that mentality subconscious or conscious yeah i've heard it an alarming number of times i have to and alex touches on maybe not explicitly but that that theme does run through some of his his conversation about you know about the ways in which if white people became minority they would be oppressed exactly and it's it does sound a lot like well you're reflecting what if minority experience has been in this country exactly uh and yeah i i guess that uh it's an admission of guilt to say if you do what i did

to you uh that's abuse that's that is one way to look at it yeah so this apartheid system is coming right um and here here's this is interesting this is really interesting the way alex frames this progression in 2016 then down the road the apartheid system it won't be called that we'll be shut down and the whole civilization will be imploded let me stop right there just briefly if you're not signing up for our free newsletter info wars.com forward slash newsletter you really need to as we can send you key intel and get to you with stories that the system's trying to censor so alex does ad pivots to his newsletter at this point which is fun um what a what a quaint notion that is he also he also sells his supplements but it is it is very out of like very weird to hear

that but what he's saying is there will be this apartheid system that comes into place and then that will collapse or that elapsed into eventually then societal collapse right right alex in 2020 is saying that societal collapse is coming and we haven't had that apartheid system wow so societal collapse can come from any direction really it seems like his ability to assess what the globalists are doing might be faulty or hey because we're all just making this up they skipped a step they skipped a step what did you need that said dan right you've skipped a clip before right well once or twice see there we go globalists can do the same thing fine so alex talks about he's got rob do joshel and sure out in in germany crack team that hates but he's not the

those aren't the only people that he has out in the fields okay we've got rob do and josh owens out in germany covering billerberg in the migrant camps they're coming up in the next segment we've got a bunch of our crew including leon macadoo and joe bigs out on the west coast for the anti-free speech hysteria there so i listened to that clip and i thought it was really interesting because he's got four people who are on location used to be able to afford to send people all over the world dan well but even beyond that josh owens has come out and written an article in the new york uh that new york times magazine about how he regrets working for info wars naturally leon macadoo is gone she's she's disappeared to the wind and and i think uh you know good honor yeah

yeah certainly but then also like her silence doesn't to me indicate that like she still looks back fondly or that she regrets it no i have no idea what her position is about her time there but she's been very much gone um joe bigs had to get fired after pizza gate wow i mean he's still a proud boy and all that sure it's sure he's still in this world but alex had to let him go three out of the four people that he has on location are gone yeah and that just proves rob do is the best employee into history rob do's got blackmail or something you need to say somebody need to take a bullet for you guess what i've got rob do i don't know what it is but he he is he has staying power he's just there man yeah so alex has a bare bone staff this day because all these people are

everybody's on location yeah and so he wants to really talk about like really supporting the crew sure people send me all this fan mail big stacks of it every week i appreciate it i look at it it's great all these gifts hey think about the crew who are reporters or whoever everybody should adopt somebody on the crew and just tell them you know what you think about them because we love you you can hear from us that we care about you um all right alex you want me to adopt somebody on your staff and tell i think josh owens is a great person tell them well not because he's not on the staff anymore oh that's fair i mean rob do is the only person who's still there you want me to tell him what i think about him send a nice gift you suck you're terrible at everything you do you're real

news reports are boring really bad your time as the the head of the nightly news was a disaster didn't go well you couldn't even keep a nightly news show going at info wars yeah but he's a great deposition great deposition now he's great as a corporate representative maybe one of the totally knew what i've ever seen embarrassing to the nth degree i don't know probably a decent father he's probably a fun hang yeah man i don't know come on how else do you stick around for this long i think it's i think he's got blackmail on a okay all right baby i think he has his like tax id or something could be alex was like can't cut him loose he knows too much i don't know i don't know but i think he's terrible at his job so alex you you asked us to say what we really think

about staff member yeah i just adopted a highway instead oh is that right yeah it's a good highway i adopted a highway man stretch a i eighty which which highway man wail and jennings wail and jennings that was your highly well he was a damn builder across the river deep and wide cash for me i got to go to space yeah you fly a starship hell yeah well so alex gets to talking about trump and it's clear that he's into trump but at the same time he's not as i don't know he's not god king yet no certainly not but he's into trump and definitely is backing him in the election and he seems to think that there is a weapon that trump has okay the most powerful weapon donald trump has isn't just these anti political correct it isn't that he just speaks like a

common person it isn't that he's just pushing basic common sense populism it's that currently at his rallies that i've seen the raw footage of that we have on info wars dot com it's it's got to be a third or 40 percent of the people going in the doors are hispanic and it's got to be 10 20 30 percent are are are black and a lot are asian now this is so exciting because they have pushed this racism narrative to the thousandth degree and quite frankly people are scared there's a little bit of xenophobia going on that's that's pretty much common sense at a point when people are saying ah foreign flags we're gonna get you kill you and the government's running and i mean people that haven't been quote racist are getting a little just a little bit

hey i'm scared which i wouldn't call racism it's just called normal tribalism that starts getting activated huh that's weird oh damn that's a weird sentence so trump has a weapon at his disposal and that is his rainbow coalition some minorities support him yep yep i don't know if those numbers are good now i don't know i think he was arguing that almost 50 percent of trump rallies were non white no more more because yes 50 to 60 percent are just hispanic and black yes and then there's a lot of asians as well right right i don't know i didn't know that it was a minority of white people who supported donald trump i was really surprised i will say from the raw footage that i've seen oh yeah appears like it's a lot of white people wow i've seen a sea of white

before now i don't know how alex is judging this because he saw this video of these people at san francisco state and wow doesn't think that they're that guy there's a few people aren't even black yeah i don't know i don't know what kind of standards these you is he taking every individual in these videos of trump rallies and determining whether or not they're minority enough for him all right now you're saying that you're the some of these people who are not quote unquote racist maybe or they're saying some things that are like i wouldn't call them racist obviously i would call them normal tribalism sure you know what i'm saying now that's an interesting angle normal tribalism to it's a normal response to be scared of other types of people i don't know now here

is where we get that thing i was teasing a little bit with the idea of the trump kind of a lot of the narratives that he put forth and a lot of the things in that media ecosystem the people who were supporting him a lot of those things probably went out of their way to incite some racism that either did exist latently sure or maybe was something close to racism and it got turned into racism pushed further over that line and alex talks about that and he's actually pretty clear that he understands that trump incited racism as a political tool now what he says about that is really interesting people that haven't been quote racist are getting a little bit hey i'm scared which i wouldn't call racism it's just called normal tribalism that starts

getting activated and so trump pushed a little bit of those buttons let's be honest about it because the left's pushing them on their side and i'm not even defending that i think you went a little too far sometimes that is amazing in june 2016 alex believed that trump intentionally pushed some buttons to incite tribal or racist ideas and it's fine because the left does that too sure but trump may have gone too far he may have gone too far alex according to alex paragon of non-racism sure i mean we're not going to go so far as to call him anti-racist in 2020 alex would be like trump has never said anything even close to racist ever yeah i know this is wow yeah this is a guy who is still thinking trump's gonna lose this is the man who i have heard spend

years say to me that the left doesn't have any memory dad yeah it's because they don't have any memory he does say that a lot they just get rid of you don't you don't have to remember things anymore dan yeah hopefully yeah and i when i say that i this is a guy who thinks the trump is gonna lose the reason that i think that is because the way this is going it doesn't feel committed it doesn't feel like alex is talking about this in in the terms of like i hope that my career is connected to this yeah yeah no he's he's saying he probably pushed buttons too hard and i will from my perspective yeah he did it not just that but he's clearly saying that the man cynically as an electric as an election strategy yeah said very racist things in order

to incite racists to vote for him yep that's not okay under any circumstances apparently it is oh okay never mind then so um you texted me earlier when we were talking about suggestions for the day of the episode yeah it was weird i texted you nixon was a great president who didn't use any racist strategies whatsoever because they tried that in the fifties and sixties but it didn't work on white people then well that was weird as that was a really strange text to give to you jordan must have listened to the ever say prescient um and you mentioned john the revelator in one of our uh wow six sixteen of course yes and so here's where uh john of patmos comes up and it's not in the context you would expect okay but it doesn't matter depesh mode has a song

making fun of him saying he stole his god from the muslims sure the muslims didn't exist for hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of years until after he died i think that was three hundreds too many john the revelator put him in an elevator take him up to the high end you know it's funny though i love depesh mode credible artist great music on my favorite bands it's just i hate it when i'm singing along to a song that sounds so good i love it when it's a lie but you know what it feels good john the revelator couldn't even hardly walk he was having those visions for days i love that like it has no play again in the same way that talking about this viral

video from san francisco state has no place on a serious show neither is this but sure like as a radio show don't you i would rather listen to alex struggle with like i love this song but i disagree with the message it's interesting alex talk about that more don't you hate it dad when you're singing along to the song and then all of a sudden you just realize this song is a lie it's blaspheming john the revelator great oh boy but that is that is a struggle that i would like to hear alex talk about yeah i would like to hear more about that because i think it would be a revelatory for him pardon pardon the use of the word so we get to the point when alex is going to now talk to rob do on location in dresden germany and alex is sort of reflecting on how

cool it is that he can be at his studio in austin and talking to somebody his buddy in germany that's nice and they can broadcast that on the radio yeah it is pretty cool that's really cool it's nice to step back and realize we live in the future right that's really cool so he's talking about that and then they go to the video and mic down for this because this is the second banana peel moment okay and it might be a little worse think about somebody a hundred years ago a thousand years ago if watching a radio show info wars it's radio you watch and i would say that i would be in studio in austin talking to anybody that wanted to dial in in the world that has the technology that's ubiquitous and that we could be in dresden germany at a nationalist rally

we're going to see if these are all white supremacists like we've been told i don't see one white supremacist there if you don't want your country wide open people coming in that rape your women telling you you've got to submit to them i don't see any any any nazi regalia except for that skull and bones flag i don't know that's a nazi flag but usually the jet set is associated with that uh-oh uh-oh oh no thanks for that skull and bones flag i've never seen millie weaver before it by a tiger like right i have no idea maybe that has something to do with nazi somebody has told me in the past that it has something to do i've never heard somebody say nazi who said skull and bones dan i fucking love that moment skull and bones drag that's that's like

what a joke of the alex joneshow would be he has sent his reporter to a nationalist rally in germany and clearly he has a vested interest in showing that it's not any no nazi there's no zero nazi for that well there's that nazi right there all right just the tone to it because do you know what he is worried he's mad at rob well no he's not at josh josh is okay fair cameraman that's what i'm saying but that's what don't you hear it except for that skull and bones flag yeah i think i think you're probably right like that that is an optics issue yeah but i think you were not supposed to let any of those nazis on but i think there also might be just a sense of like i don't know maybe there are a bunch of those skull flags maybe so we've

got to rationalize it yeah he realizes that like okay yeah the presentation is that this isn't some kind of a fucked up rally right so now we see this flag that could be nazi in nature we don't know exactly yeah we but we have to preemptively explain it probably the fed there to discredit them because if there's one of those flags there merkel then claims you can shut down the whole event ah so the flag is probably just a fed who's there so alex is being a little bit dishonest when he talks about this rally no according to ducha well just two days prior to this episode being recorded there had been an actually large nazi rally endortment in germany except for that large nazi rally din 900 members of the ultra right wing nationalist groups many of them explicitly

neo nazis took part in that march which was met by approximately 5000 counter demonstrators and according to this article luckily ended in quote little violence oh that's nice yeah the migrant crisis that was happening around this time was inspiring a real surge in neo nazi and closely related sensibilities in europe which were being whitewashed and sanitized by being called nationalism it's hard to say what this rally that rob is that is actually at this point but this is on monday and that saturday there was a rally in dresden that was run by pigida which is an extreme right wing group that is aggressively anti-islam and anti-immigrant and character pigida is based in dresden so it seems like it's probably another one of their

gatherings which would mean that it's not some cool rally about people who just love germany it seems possible that they would hold rallies as frequently as this because the guardian reported in 2015 that pigida were quote holding weekly demonstrations in dresden against what it preserves as the islam islamization of europe it's hard to say for sure at this point but it will be confirmed later but it really seems to me that alex sent his news director to germany to whitewash a rally being run by explicit xenophobic fashion yeah that does sound right we're in a real malinu kind of situation yeah that's what i'm feeling yep just change the country yep so alex has seen this video it's just a global cult ball of nazis all around the world working together it's to

create a one world fascist government dan troubling it is troubling isn't it yeah so alex is he's got this video going on skype and it turns out another thing that's been consistent is that skype don't work we've lost our skype fee we're gonna get back up in a moment go to them before i go any further though obviously it is extremely expensive to have rob do and josh owens and paul watson who's about to be there in germany alex's tech issues are consistent but you see a very different response to them he's not angry he's not freaking out he's like oh we got skype issue we lost the connection i'll go to a plug skype issues happen yeah good time good time to tell you how much expensive this is and you should buy our products that seems like a really

rational normal person hosting a show as opposed to being like fuck a place better report i'm leaving oh i don't even want to do this show anymore you know this you know sometimes the skype is just down dan yeah it's not like you know sometimes the skype just goes down nobody cuts you off yeah nobody turns off your feet nope skype just goes down yep so alex finally gets rob on and he talks about how that morning they'd been in another city in germany and they'd interviewed a migrant individual sure and alex has to correct him to just be a total shithead we did have an interesting interview today we stopped in a small town of about 40 000 people where they house about 11 migrant 1000 migrants illegal invaders brought him by the EU to break

the border go ahead exactly that's wow yeah yeah wow alex is you know when i suspect that this is a pagida rally that alex has sent his reporters to and he acts like that's kind of like oh yeah it's probably a pagida rally oh man probably i'm i'm just gonna go out on a limb and say that name might be a little too long you know as far as the lead goes sometimes you want to shorten it down you know to fit it in there you don't want to go with a illegal invader immigrants from plan nine outer space to cross border killing all of us and the statue of liberty yeah so i think alex is a little bit shook by the fact that there was this flag that could be a nazi flag so he really needs to insist that these people are not nazis but then also kind of be like well

nazis are good if they are fascists so well they're not nazis but if they were they'd be great so you got anti-globalists to get the program you got a bunch of nationalists people with state flags i saw one that has a skull and crossbones but it says something on the top that could be fascist related but that's their right uh you know they have any speaks but let's find out there i saw at least two there's one there and i'll see if i can find another one close i have a spinning suspicion that's just good boy so there's more you guys you're so bad at this so there's more why would you say i'm looking for more of course there's more buddy and alex has a sneaking suspicion it's just a party but like the nazi party what party are you talking about i like that there's

suddenly there this is aliens now they're like oh no there's one over there there's one over there there's one there on the ceiling they're all around us so uh there's a counter demonstration going on along with this rally and uh rob's talking about it a little bit and alex gets a little bit distracted but you could see maybe about 40 50 at the most they're chanting and they're they got the communist flag right there so these are communist leftists here that are pro illegal immigration and pro migration they want to fund this stuff they want to basically sell their future down the river because they've been told let's show a little more attention to that blonde police officer from our place what get out of here alex is a little out of here get the fuck out of here

you cannot do that as the kids say alex is a little horny on main you are fired can you imagine i saw i you know i saw this and i was like that's alex my man that is real like that's what i expect from this guy brett bears doing a remote oh no one second get a little bit closer on that piece over there like what are you doing it's not appropriate at all fired and you are immediately fired what's interesting about this though is that alex seems really horny and then here in dresden you have this large now let's let's go back to that female police officer what was that alex i'm serious let's go back to the female police officer i'm sorry i've had a little fun folks i apologize uh no no feel free to ask if anybody speaks english

and see if they want to talk to her to uh you know see what she thinks i don't think they're allowed to talk i could go to i know i don't care just go talk to her this is like i'm i'm laughing because this is so outrageous it is it's beyond parody yeah like you can't imagine alex is trying to play this game where he's like haha i'm just kidding but seriously fucking talk to that no this is this is fucked up you should be fired for this this is a fireable effect i mean i think we talk a lot about how like one of the crippling problems of this show is that he has no boss yeah exactly it is a it is a is a limitation yeah i can't stop laughing because this is it's not even this is just such disgusting behavior yeah it's so disgusting it's beyond reason and this interview

does get worse of course because rob ends up talking to one of the counter demonstrators oh no okay one of the counter demonstrators speaks english and he talks to rob and he's actually a pretty sensible interview and that's a problem it's a huge problem so but also i do appreciate this person because they do end up confirming that they're there to counter protest a pagida rally course so my suspicion is confirmed by this clip english all right this guy is a friend he's a big one on your group why are you here and pagida is roses the refugees which come to germany and to treason and we are here to say no to pagida because we want the refugees we want to help the people who come here so it's a pagida rally it's a pagida rally yep so that's great we are protesting nazis

yeah we've seen this happen a number of times in the past and it's the this phenomenon that happens when alex has somebody in the field and he thinks they're not doing a good enough job right rob is trying to have a conversation with this guy trying to ask obviously leading questions but alex is not satisfied he wants him to hit it with gotchas yeah and so he ends up just talking over this interview of course that's when it's okay how they treat their women okay what about in muslim countries the way they treat their women do you think that's okay to do that here what the way they treat their women make them cover up they can beat them they can stone them and i think this is a kind of education which we have to bring them nearer that's right they

have to be educated explain that they don't assimilate anywhere explain they're the most unassimilatable people ah yes great yeah i hit him with the bottom line of our bigoted xenophobic world view so why ask a question when you can just tell them how he's supposed to respond exactly you idiot yeah so it the guy has responses that don't fit into the info wars mold which is rob is asking this question that's supposed to be a trap but the guy is saying like there are other cultures that behave in ways that you know you don't we don't support violence again like spousal violence yeah and so that's something that we need to help people understand isn't appropriate and you know he they think it's a trap and it's not and that's bad because you don't want to run away

from this interview because he can handle your questions and at the same time you don't have any other questions you can throw at him not really so alex just ends up having to talk over it this guy will be given a job later over people that work this is a dumb parasite so stupid he doesn't know he's one bring up the blonde police officer and he got to wear a beekeeper suit say do you understand the muslims take over this woman could even be a police officer ask the idiot i'm still horny for that cop okay all right now i'm graduating from just straight misogyny and just fucking patriarchal chauvinist behavior i'm gonna wrap that up in his llamaphobic bigotry buddy talk to that tell that hot cop that i want that she's going to be an islamic

beekeeper it's interesting because alex is trying to deflect from this interview not going well and at the same time he's sort of shaming rob and illustrating like these are the thoughts that i would have and the way i would yell at this person if i were there and they show why you're not as good as me yep this yeah yeah and dominant behavior yeah it's very much like very alpha yeah very alpha like lizard brain kind of shit going on right here yeah so i mentioned earlier that there's a surprise appearance and here's where that happens steve butjeniks mom no this almost knocked me out of my chair okay hey interview that blonde reporter right behind you she's walking around beside you josh knows who she is you're left yeah that's loren southern hey loren what the

she's from canada yeah exactly loren southern what the fuck why is she there loren southern what is wrong what is fucking wrong because loren southern's involved with european fascists of course she is of course she is come on it's not today i was expecting it today no i told you before we started recording that i was listening to this and everything just kept getting weirder and that's one of the things that i was like i was listening to this like the fucking who invited you rob do is in the middle of fucking dresden doing this remote loren southern shows us loren southern come on over this canadian asshole happens to be at the same picky to rally and dresden all right guys so he starts interviewing what's that andy no what are you doing over here

get on over i don't think he was relevant at this point i don't think so either but loren and rob start having a conversation and it gets really clear really quick first of all that loren is aggressively islamophobic love nazis second thing is that alex feels so left out the two of them are having a conversation a good time and he's he's in studio and he's like i want to go to the two of them are sort of like hitting sort of anti immigrant islamophobic points back and forth and alex is just sort of the ghost in the studio is like hey ask us this it's it's kind of sad that's funny a lot of people don't seem to understand that islam is a religion and not a race right um and it's the details that they're not or that it treats women like animals he said

we can't judge people and we don't know about them and he said i've never read the quran so i can't judge them right i'm like well maybe you should talk to rob do announce where you are too for the self because it's just really quiet the adults are talking alex really weird because you know that lauren doesn't have an earpiece in so she can't hear the things that alex is saying no he's it's like he's a toddler like jumping up and grabbing rob do's arm sleeve like yeah hey tell her to be racist hey come on do it racist for me tell her to ramp it up ramp it up yeah yeah very strange so uh i think maybe i'd have to just be guessing here but it partially i'm going to go ahead and decide to report on air that alex felt left out by the two of them sure so much like the person

who's at the party who goes and sits in the corner he ends up going to talk to uh josh owens let's interview the cameraman he has about yeah yeah josh owens always busting his butt and he's gone jihadi there he's got the uh the the beard uh so that so that he can infiltrate the camps we're being we're joking we're joking uh i could ask you questions but you've been in germany 24 hours already kicked but what do you want to impart what have you picked up in day one of this 10 10 day uh operation info wars well look alex one thing that i don't think was conveyed in the video that we posted yesterday when we went to this migrant camp all we wanted to do was simply speak to people so i don't care about his perspective of going to this migrant camp

particularly because he has written an article about how at his time at info wars they staged news stories in order to incite animus towards muslim so it seems to me this probably is exactly one of them yeah yeah go fuck yourself yeah so the interview wraps up and alex has a bit of a story that he's posted on info wars um i don't know how to explain this because it doesn't really make sense at this time there was a lot of talk about the wall build the wall share share share and so they found a wall in germany that they're calling a medieval trump wall so that's that's what's going on a lot of successful german walls if i remember certainly that's up on info wars.com medieval trump wall found in germany now they built walls back then to stop the muslims

because see they invade that's what they do there are a lot of muslims that are nice people but it's definitely a religion of conquest big time this is so explicitly islamic wow yeah and just like a base level no frills nothing like yeah not hiding behind anything just uh that's what they do like it it's wild it's yeah it's wild in your face just wild yeah and uh i'm i'm not surprised yeah no i i mean it's almost it's almost strange to hear it so targeted now you know in the context of 2020 it seems like all racism is now shotgun blasting out of alex at any you know like fucking non-white just doesn't matter you know but here it's focused and targeted on just well also on these the existence of women in general as anything other than sex objects i think you might you know

what i'm just like wrong yeah this is a dick well i think what it is is that alex talks about all of these various things and bigotry's in different stories yeah as opposed to one just sort of grenade all the time yeah yeah yeah maybe that's maybe that's what i was trying to say yeah that's a good point so um alex like i said his varsity narrative the big one is this talk about trump's vp yes and now that we've gotten robin germany out of the way alex starts teasing again all right the headline here is and we're going to premiere it trump vp pic leaked now now i'm not throwing stone under the bush you're going to discover what really happened but you know when i figure something out for myself i figure it out so and it's not a hundred percent set in stone but

little birdies not just stone little birdie said 95 percent so you're going to hear it here first ladies and gentlemen 95 percent little birdies all all of it i love me a 95 percent serious he's doing it right he's teasing he's doing his job no he's doing great yeah and he's not committing he's giving you a nice little look i know everybody knows yeah you don't know and maybe it's not true but i know hey i'm cool so lauren southern was the out of nowhere cameo and then there was i told you that there was a guest that was surprising yes and here is that guest that is surprising tucker carlson great to have you here with us what the fuck yeah why is tucker on tucker carlson tucker carlson went on info wars well i mean he's been on info

was a number of times but i didn't realize this recently yeah like i know that back in the much earlier times yeah the two of them had some almost adversarial but not hostile conversations because alex was far more libertarian and and tucker was more mainstream conservative right these those are their brands at the time i know that i like i don't know the dates on them but i've seen tucker with alex but in june 2016 it seemed like that's too late that shouldn't be that's that seems like at a point when tucker would have wanted to stay away yeah wow because he has at least some sense about him about like optics and and associations is it just me or is it is is being on info wars not dis is it disqualifying now but it wasn't then no it was then it should

have been then it was then for a lot of people it should have been then for everyone no it made you look bad in 2016 for sure it just it turns out that there are some people who flew under the radio yeah yeah tucker i think people just didn't notice yeah well there's that and trump it was just kind of like a what are you going to do there's a hundred issues yeah yeah what put it on the fucking pile yeah but this is where i you know like i'm often accused of being a witch and this is where i think you're a witch because you chose this episode and we've got rob do going to a fucking fascist rally in dresden and running into lauren southern on the streets we've got alex saying that trump pushed racist buttons but hey probably went probably not that big and it probably

went too far but it's not that big and we got fucking tucker carlson showing up it's weird this is weird it is weird it is weird maybe it's just back then stuff used to happen on his show i don't think so i can't be this is excitement i know this is non stop this is the fast and furious of info wars episodes certainly in terms of guest stars yeah yeah star power yeah i know from listening to other eras of his show that this is not how the show used to be all the time this is a good episode that ended up randomly getting picked but like it is still like a completely different show it is very different so the reason that tucker is on is because he had gone to a conference or summit of some sort that involved people from facebook and glenn

beck was there and it turns out glenn beck wasn't cool or something all right and simultaneously glenn beck had just been kicked off something i think maybe serious sure something and so alex hates glenn beck cool this seems like a great time for the two of them to have a conversation sure talkers said some bad things about glenn beck we're gonna have a great time yeah and so because he was at this summit with the social media folks mark zuckerberg was there so alex opens with a joke about mark zuckerberg now i don't normally go off people's looks but if we pull up a photo of zuckerberg no i do i'm being sarcastic i'm being sarcastic sure he does look like he could actually play nosferatu without any prosthetic fake teeth i mean he does have vampiric

teeth that is hilarious you know he didn't go for my neck i'm proud to say fake laugh whoa question mark i don't know i think it was a fake it should be a fake i think it was a fake laugh because he said that's hilarious yeah it better be a fake yeah probably yeah i think the talker is just charming enough to be able to like hey alex wants to be funny that's hilarious i'm going to make him feel funny yeah that was not funny no so they get to talking about glenn beck and mike down for this clip because this is so amazing okay i got to say i mean like tucker carlson is a smart guy and but by that i think he knows the way the wind blows sure he's able to with some competence like like present himself in ways like he's not an idiot

he's phoenix like three times right like he's he died on crossfire when john stewart yeah i want to be like he's he's gone away and come back enough times to know that the man can navigate and even even in those times bow tie era other era now yeah fascist but just to shit back the whole time yeah definitely but not somebody who is is like alex like he's very clearly much more adept at things yeah and that's why he is like on the top rated show exactly on table news he claw equal out his way out of the base he he is he's there because for you know for a reason and alex is where he is for a reason right i think that tucker makes a lot of good points honestly and one of the points that he makes that we're not going to get into too much but i do

think deserves a call out is you know he's not saying that facebook and twitter and all these companies need to be destroyed or anything but there are concerns that we should talk about about the ways in which they engage with foreign governments sure like the the ways that like foreign governments have laws that are counter to american laws right so for these companies to operate in foreign countries right they follow the foreign countries laws but they're an american company exactly right that kind of thing yeah he's not saying that we need to stop all of it across the board sure but there like that's not a non valid conversation no way that it's a huge conversation and he expresses it fairly decently right and this point that he makes when talking about glenn

beck is a great great point okay and it follows alex making not so great a point about why he thinks glenn beck is out to get him sure one time i was there to go on other shows at fox high level producer a name everyone would know has their own show on fox but also produces stuff came over had a steak with me at lunch or part of a steak they had a smaller steak and i sat there after i've just been on the view and he looked right at me and said glenn beck is climbing the walls that you're about to be let in to be on a bunch of shows and i said well i've already been offered a show they want me to pilot with man cow i turned that down last year and i said why does he care and he goes look trust me he runs the whole place he's probably gonna get kicked out he's crazy but he

he thinks he's jesus and now that was the quote now i've been told that by so many others what was your take on glenn beck well i mean i my general view of glenn beck is that he's super talented i mean he's much he's much more talented than i am that's for sure radio as you know is great preparation for any kind of broadcasting because you have to fill all this air by yourself and it takes a talented man to do that again more talented than i am glenn beck is a really talented guy but when he started to conflate his own radio career with some sort of religious mission you know he lost me and i mean i'm a pretty mainstream episcopalian maybe that's maybe it's my fault me i didn't understand it but there was this mystic element that craft is cultic

to his rhetoric i mean it made me uncomfortable i will say that hey tucker i got bad news about the guy you're talking to oh boy oh boy isn't that interesting though it's not it's not it's interesting no it's interesting but it's interesting in that kind of like there's a tweet for everything kind of way yeah something is interesting where it's like you know that they know like they know they fucking know i bet that talker wouldn't be on alex's show now no absolutely he's on tomorrow of course yeah smash got i love your evangelical outreach show alex this is really going great i mean he had talker on his show has defended alex about various things but there are all things that you could as i recall i don't remember a lot of the specifics but a lot of them were things that

were like all right i get what you're saying here it's a dumb argument right i get why based on your brand you would need to protect alex sure or defend him you'd still never have him on your show no no but yeah it's it that's really interesting because talker is is coming from place of of humility humbleness modesty this like he's much more talented than i am radio is very hard yeah but it's nuts when you take your radio thing and make it a religious mission yeah i don't know if he's just and alex says that's culty yeah alex's response is so obvious so obvious of course he was smash cut to the present day alex saying that the literal christian satan is running the opposition to trump i forgot we have not heard this is the six six sixteen episode nobody has

claimed that the devil is running anything not a mention of the devil not a mention of the devil not once and no mention up to this point of anything six six six related have we avoided the devil which is really surprising to me i thought at least there would be a joke or something i haven't cut out any mention of isn't it funny the date yeah there's and and went like i'll be honest with you one of the reasons that this was really refreshing and fun to listen to fun and heavy quotes yeah comparatively to the present day is he's not just yelling about the literal christian devil all the time yeah he's not yelling about pedophiles all the time yeah it's not talking about how they want to drink your blood it's not that and talker is right things do get out of

control and completely like unwieldy once you enter that level of things yeah when you're ostensibly political show becomes some sort of a religious mission everything you're saying stops making sense yeah and alexa show is probably in some ways motivated by that extremist religion but it's not as forward facing at this point right the actual product has like here's a story now maybe it's about a dumb viral video in san francisco state but at least it's something that happened right you know it's not just right the devil wants to get you in a basement so he can scare you and drink your children's blood but here's what happens they're living in the world that ostensibly they have always said they wanted and it turns out it's shit and so you can either

try and defend your monster president or you can say that the devil is killing him and everybody else is so evil they are eating killed you can only you can only give a value judgment to your guy by decreasing the value of your enemy so low and it's a losing game which is evidence of how shitty your guy is yeah it's the same problem that is that joke about like bad improv it's like you know the person who pulls a gun yeah it's like you've heightened things too far yeah yeah we can't take this to another level right right right now i'm magneto right control metal or whatever it's like everything gets out of control way too fucking fast and when alex spends all of his time with the stakes being this sort of spiritual dichotomy between yeah the left and yeah the

trump it just becomes there's there's nowhere to escalate it from his end like where do you go after they want to kill all of your children to drink their blood because it's a sacrament to satan there isn't another level above that not particularly until until trump actually sacrifices a kid to satan and then they have to find a new way to make the left even worse than that i guess like you can measure you can measure how bad a republican governance is by how evil they have to make the left out to be it's a very simple correlation yeah if that the worse a republican governance is the more the republicans go out of their way to escalate how terrible the left is like if you look at the republican national convention now you know how terrible trump is

compared to just just fucking bush just because bush wasn't like if you don't vote for me the world will burn in fire and yeah names none shall walk the earth abandon hope all you yeah that's how bad he is well i think i've heard this comparison made or the sort of trend be pointed out i'm not entirely sure how one to one attracts but when the republicans are out of power it's the talk is always fiscal responsibility and the budget and all these like sort of concrete things and numbers and all these arguments and then as soon as they get into power everything becomes culture war bullshit yeah it seems like that is that tracks to what i feel i've experienced yeah in my life yeah i i can't really claim to be an expert and improve that just tell me about the deficit one

more time no deficit devil devil so here's alex and tucker talking more about how creepy it is that going back to us sure well the real part is him saying he has the only answer and that and that cruises this anointed one and that the children are their new priest and that if we don't do what they say we're going to hell that is jim jones territory well it scared the hell out of me i gotta say it again i i don't want to be judge metal but it freaks me out when people talk like that i mean this is politics the point of politics is by definition it's a secular endeavor we're trying to solve differences without violence without referent without reference to the hereafter we're trying to do this in a sort of reasonable way using logic reason right and when

you all of a sudden start imputing religious motives or significance to the politicians you support that it gets way too heavy and weird for me and also by the way the implication is if my guy is the messiah or i'm the messiah and you disagree with him or me don't do it and you're don't really looking at eternal damnation don't do it and that's the level of discourse i'm not comfortable with because once you believe the person you're competing against is not just wrong but stop it stop it flies almost any kind of action including violence and so it makes me uncomfortable how fucking dare you i have bad news for tucker about the guy he's talking to let let he who is not a right wing grifter cast the first stone yeah that to me hearing that was like you make a lot of

sense you make a lot of sense unfortunately it's you unfortunately the show you're on is exactly what you're talking about when you turn your president to a god king bad things happen thanks tucker yeah great we'll see in four years so uh we get back to this vp thing alex wants to tease it by seeing what tucker thinks sure vp pic i mean obviously jeff sessions will always be my first choice because i think he's the smartest he's the most impressive member of the senate i do with him the most on immigration and trade okay have you heard that though i mean i'm asking you because no i have not heard that we're about to come back with roger stone we're gonna get i mean i got uh but i tell you okay so jeff sessions yeah i mean that's my hope and i hope he doesn't

try and stunt cast it i mean that my concern is he'll try to overthink it get someone flaky who you've never heard of who you know isn't smart or interesting yeah they're talking about having war and with clinton for the double stunt of two women no no more gimmicks we need the real deal except that's exactly right no more gimmicks sessions tucker wants sessions oh man so alex goes out to break after the tucker interview just pimping this interview with roger about the vice president we're coming back with roger stone the empire this is gonna be big okay you want to know the vp is get ready are we about to leak it find out in three minutes professional that's great he knows what he's doing that's good stuff we want to keep people around

here comes don't don't scream stop at your stop lights no but look at get happy everybody around that i'm sure you're gonna need to i'm sure that within a couple of weeks of this episode either in the past or in the future one hundred percent he did tell people to stop one hundred percent but this is a good job yes just because he does a bad job all the time doesn't mean we can't celebrate he has it within him at this point to do something right yes from a presentation standpoint that's a good way which is so goddamn foreign to me just the only reason that i even make a point of it it's it's baffling to me that he didn't just say i think it's x like it really is a completely different show you you texted me multiple times like listening to this going like there's no way this is not the

same show it's it's not the same day and night it's it's so different yeah and it's weird that he's still supported trump at this point like it's it's not like it's a cut and dry black and white thing there that's like as soon as he accepted trump and was supporting him it became like what he is now which is right i don't even i don't even know i mean let's be honest though the last four years have broken everyone in you know like say if you say what you want about the right wing they're busted as too yeah you know it's not like it's not like they're weathering the storm better than us they're all fucking insane look at him we do this show exactly we're insane too everybody's broken yeah we're we're all fucked yeah that's great so alex comes back from break and instead of

going straight to the report he talks a little bit uh to set up the report and let's talk about how cool roger stone is this guy's fucking cool he loves his mom stone's the only guy that's not a yes man to trump basically he went to inside baseball he's a really interesting guy god he wanted to know me years ago and i was too busy and now i'm gonna be friends with this guy and i mean i wonder he was like best buddies with nixon after nixon got out of office you know they uh hung out and everything a lot i mean like on a weekly basis because he's just really funny and really smart and fun to hang out with and fun to drink a beer with too if i were roger and i heard that i'd be like i have got this guy this guy it's on the hook i could do whatever i could take

over his business yeah isn't this like the moment in oceans eleven where this is like we're in this is roger and looking at everybody this is right step two of the plan is complete this is where a confidence man is like i have achieved confidence oh man i feel like i'm watching dirty rod and scoundrels that bum me out oh god so anyway here is where the special report begins and alex talks it's michael kane well this is really interesting because alex is talking to roger but at the same time is doing a little bit of a setup where he pretends that he's not talking to roger and i pressed him hard who is the vp pick just has trump decided yet and he said you know i'm not gonna tell you what i think or what i know until we do just a special report

and we will put it out there in the public but he said only one man knows and that's all from and i said okay well i have no dog in the fight against kory luandowski and i defended him you know when that woman said he pushed her down and all that it looked like he just kind of shoved her but whatever but he is on fox last sunday and all over saying he's running it he's deciding so it's weird because he's talking to roger and he's telling the story uh using him yeah he he did this it's very strange and then i gotta say i'm amazed by this like i don't like kory luandowski but i did defend him when everyone said he pushed over this woman when in reality he just shoved her i i look i defended this guy when he committed a violent act against a woman see that's that

that's the thing your your measurement of you your loyalty to this guy is you protecting him from the worst thing that he's done but i don't like and be mad that he doesn't hang out with you i don't like that he allowed i don't like that he doesn't allow me to talk to drop and i don't like that he goes and does interviews where he says that he's involved in choosing the vp shove women over all day what are we not going to toss women to the ground what are we yeah what was it what is this so the night before this was taped alex and roger had dinner and we get back to this this gulp slash gasp that roger had at alex's pick i have staff who've come up with a name that when i said the name to you kind of gasp last night at dinner and said don't say i said that

but yeah that's uh i'll talk about it on air so we're on air we got 10 and a half minutes left you've got the floor but people really want to know this is one of the most important things ever obviously not just in the trump campaign for the future of this country but he puts a globalist in it'll be like george herbert walker bush and the cia you know shooting reagan uh for the folks who don't know look into that oh boy so hw killed reagan apparently which is an interesting wrinkle in history yeah um so reagan got pegged and reagan's dead those are the two things i know jordan our next clip will reveal the pick and i want you i don't think that i've done anything to indicate what name gets not at all not at all um we know because we're in 2020 that it is mike

it is mike pence they could have guessed mike pence they could have guessed somebody else didn't guess mike i would like for you to come up with a list of three names that you think they are going to all right and i'd like for you to if possible i know this putting you on the spot uh go from most likely to least likely all right um i am going to say for these guys world i'm going to go with number one pick ted cruise okay all right number two pick for fun joy and read number three pick i am going to go with judge napolitano judge napolitano was in in the running for the supreme court we do know that yeah interesting choice of picks i know that roger has said some positive things about napolitano in the past um i don't think they like joy and read i'm gonna i'm gonna

that was a fun joke answer that was a fun one i'm going to say that your first pick is flawed because you forget that this is during that period where they had cruise was the zodiac killer that's right i forgot about that his dad killed the kind of yes exactly yeah i forgot about his wife was fucking ugly and all this all right yeah this is during that weird period because alex loved ted cruise before his tea party guy yeah he's great he's one of the best well-spoken folks and then afterwards after he submitted to trump he became good again but during that period especially during the primary um and in the the beginning of the the sort of ramp up to the general they did not like ted cruise ted cruise was the glen back candidate yeah no they're they're cowardice

and craven this should be hounded upon them until the ends of their lives right well every single person should be followed around with people being the ted cruise should just be like you're the zodiac killer your dad killed kennedy your dad killed kennedy your dad killed kennedy every single day of his life somebody should scream that into his face yeah you coward yeah you know yeah their prediction uh is uh you're wrong on all three counts okay i think by process of elimination one of the strongest contenders the name you brought up a guy that i like myself would be senator jeff sessions now i've known sessions back to the alabama young republicans in the 80s it's all jeff sessions tucker wants him to be the candidate and that's why alex responded that way

when i see it well he's like do you have any information he got really excited yeah i took that to be he disagreed with alex yeah it was hard to read that's kind of what i got the feel of is because he was like oh shit maybe you've actually got a real answer i made i'm making this shit up yeah you know no no i think that that i'm making this shit up feeling is a hundred percent what was behind alex's reaction to tucker's statement instead it was confirmed as opposed to yeah yeah it was no do you have anything more concrete than i do which is bullshit it's impossible to read that in the moment when he's talking to tucker right right because it could easily be like oh shit i was gonna say that's how i read it for sure i was gonna say huckabee for sure how i read

i don't want to be embarrassed exactly that's because that's a my feeling on alex's default is i don't want to be embarrassed for something i don't want to feel bad yeah it's all sessions wow and you know what's interesting too is that roger starts talking other names uh that he thinks might be in the mix none of them are mike pence am i saying trump has chosen sessions no i think joni Ernst the senator from iowa is one of the candidates under consideration sure i think that miriam and shelden adelson have very aggressively advocated newt gingrich who i like personally i think there's some drawbacks to his candidacy but i think he is one that that donald trump has under consideration on the other hand i think the shortlist is an evolving list it's an evolving

list that's how we get around saying anything i'm saying shit i'm saying this right now we're all putting content out doesn't matter if this has any basis in reality yeah we got to get 10 minutes done this is an evolving situation and so it's fine that in hindsight the name that does become the vp is not mentioned nowhere in here nowhere near joni Ernst joni around they were gonna have women involved sure sure so alex is talking to roger here and he's he's trying to bring up like yeah man sessions it's gotta be sessions it's got and i know that because i've studied body language i've watched trumps body language with sessions four or five times he doesn't do with anybody else he literally bites his teeth and savers and just looks at him like he's in love with him

i mean i mean i'm i'm sorry the body language is something i've ever seen in trump other than when he's i mean he acts he really likes sessions so body language expert alex jones has realized that the two of them just hit it off they're just like sympatico and they have the same ideas about immigration so it's gonna be sessions it is not sessions and sessions becomes a villain later because he recused himself from the russia stuff and they did not like that seemed too weak for the maga crowd and and they have turned on him quite a bit and then he lost his primary to get back into the congress they all knew they all knew no they should everybody knew everybody knew and they still convinced themselves that they could pull it off yeah you know it's at every

part of this reminds me so much of reading about stolin's closest group of friends and watching them disappear like one by one by one and you're like you guys all knew that he was disappearing people well i mean you could have stopped being disappeared let's take murder out of the equation and like look at it on like a thirty thousand foot view and then a closer view because you have like this glimpse of this twenty sixteen sure like alex and roger think that sessions is going to be the vp pic sessions is shamed out of the of the maga community yeah yeah they're complaining about kori newandowski he's someone who's not involved at all never to be seen from again barely remembered by people anymore is he the live yeah so you have that like the trump sphere

these people that they're talking about that there's the palace intrigue about them that's so important completely irrelevant now but then you take it into a sharper focus and you look at info wars and there's all these people who are there and now are gone gone either disgraced or hate alex now or are just mysteriously very conspicuous in their absence and it's like none of this stays yeah and i understand there's turnover don't get me wrong i'm not i'm not saying that like every staff has to say completely the same but it's a high level of folks that are all gone what i but what really bums me out and i think they i think at least the the non idiots know this republicans flourish flourish under a centrist president that they can hate

yep that is where they grow there they become so their but they blossom into beautiful flowers who gives a shit about the deficit and all of this nobody because i think tan suits and they all get angry but they all get safe you know they don't get nobody gets bothered yeah and then but then they get power and they realize how shitty they are and they're like well it's obviously not our faults that were so it's the literal it has to be the devil yeah it can't be that we're morons yeah because i think that while i don't agree with them those fiscal arguments are at least possibly productive people can at least like engage in reality because there's like okay you're actually finally saying eight hundred billion let's at least talk about

seven hundred and ninety five or eight hundred and five within a budget there's always something you could look at and discuss and be like sure here's what like let's talk about our priorities right when you're talking about like a cataclysmic devil deep state when when what do you get under a centrist president you get a massive pentagon budget like you fucking love so much you get corporate bailouts left and right like you fucking love so much all you have to deal with is a little bit of extra health care and that's not even hard you would to make that so toothless it doesn't even bother people and it usually allows you to fundraise really well exactly yelling about it look how socialist this is yeah the the gradual sort of progressive policies and and i mean

progress quite frankly is made is enough that you can fundraise off it effectively with your your audience and they ruin their own lives because they forget that they're idiots and then when they get power they're like well obviously we were right the whole time that was so stupid it's just sort of the larger version of what we talk about with alex a lot and that is that he works almost only in an adversarial role yeah he does not really work yeah and i think that through design or just habit i don't know i i would not be a competent person to speak on this but like who whatever reason for whatever reason the g.o.p. in the right seems to only work adversarily yeah they do not seem to work all that effectively when they're in charge right

and there's democrats and what do you mean for one reason democrats have a lot of problems too but it seems like their party is at least a bit more competent in terms of they're capable of writing down words right that's borderline where we're at now one of them is not a great driver the others hammer yeah that's yeah yeah yeah that's a great way of putting it so we have one last clip here jordan and one of them swerves around on the wrong side of the road in britain yeah and the other one is shit faced so we have one last clip and it's alex has this pre recorded thing so he just leaves yeah and that's to consist david night is hosting the fourth hour and so when david night comes in i mean i hate david night he's boring as hell but he gives us

exactly what we need three hours into this episode welcome back to the alex jones show on this monday six six sixteen of course i just mentioned that alex jones he says oh we got to do uh facebook mentions on that we're going to come in and talk about what's going on with that because we've seen a lot of news this week we've had the satanist in la saying that they're going to set up a pentagram and mark out the five points around la claiming it for satan as if that already hadn't been done with i think it's kind of redundant to do that good joke david that's a nice little button thank you david thanks david yeah that's a nice little stick that's a nice little put the button on at the episodes over i really feel like that sums it up perfectly yeah it was

pretty it was pretty interesting to me that david night came in and immediately addressed the elephant in the room that is that it six six sixteen and apparently alex had no idea yeah yeah sure david night throws in a little jocularity about satanism but it doesn't seem too important it doesn't seem like something you have to stress to he's having a little fun yeah as as this episode comes to a wrap i would say first of all i know that it was accidental and completely random but thank you jordan you picked an amazing episode very welcome and you can see now that we've gone through it like the reasons that that was such a i fucking nailed an interesting time thing to to look over and to to to prepare an episode about i just i feel revitalized i'm going to say that my

unconscious mind really came through on this one yeah and it's amazing that it was a bit based on your thinking about the devil six six on a six six six two episode we get zero devil which is refreshing i chose well yeah yeah but even then david night's devil is far more cheeky and fun than alex's devil it's a boring devil i find this so much more palatable despite the awful bigotry and yeah i don't know it's not awful bigotry but in terms of a listening experience this show is much much better four years ago one hundred percent and i know that it's it's one of these weird things that i've already learned because obviously i've listened to his shows in the past right but it you forget you forget that like this show was different it's very different yeah and i

appreciate getting to experience that and um you know fucking weird you said you sent rob do to a fucking right wing rally in germany and he ran into lauren southern like sure that alone is a why not why not of course that you add in fucking tucker carlson is there why wouldn't tucker carlson be there shooting on what alex becomes and of course it did roger stone and alex are teasing that they're going to reveal the vp pic and it's just they think it's just sessions god what an amazing display of shit header yeah this is really comprehensive god it had everything except except steve pecanic talk about his mom for an hour i would love to see a pecanic talking it would have been nice yeah so it is it is one

of those things where it's like you just can't experience change over time the same way you can quickly you know and you it just erodes so slowly and you think oh today is still just as normal as it was yesterday and then you're reminded of what time does to people yeah like christ have i died am i old now what just happened yeah i feel like i had a midlife crisis from listening to an episode of 2016 back when i used to go to the gym all the time there's one of the things that the trainers would always say or and i always thought it was sort of a marketing ploy but i think there's some truth to it and that is that like you don't see the gradual improvements that and and sort of getting into shape you won't see it sure it's something that like you'll have

to look at something from three months ago to recognize differences yeah i think there's something to that and i i think that alex's erosion um has become so normalized to us and especially in 2020 like i'm dan this is 2020 god damn it we almost got away with it almost the like we've spent so much time uh dwelling in the present day with you know not as many diversions as we used to do that i think we can forget like that that is not yeah what he's always been yep and i and i got to be honest i just wish that i could only talk about the past because honestly i hate him in the present i hate him in 2016 too but i hate him in a much different way no no no the problem is the problem is none of this is real this is a this is a simulation and dan you and i got stuck on the

simulation where we talk about alex jones's descent into madness we didn't get stuck in the simulation where alex jones switches gears hates trump we turn right wing a fucking white nationalist that'd be a wild future anybody who's book in that guess what we're going to do also the problem with our evil twins in this universe is i guess they would have no facial hair because we're both bearded gentlemen we're how do we do soap opera evil twins mustache mustache just mustache probably i wouldn't look good with the mustache my evil twin's got to let's find out okay open up a portal um i feel like if those are the two options then i would choose this reality i don't know i don't know so um thank you jordan and thank uh the past for

providing this this this interesting little trip give us this day our daily yeah and before we get out here why don't we uh take a little time to listen to some voicemails oh that'd be great here's uh here's one i uh i'm a long time listener uh first time caller and uh i just think that uh lianna mackadoo and rob do should uh get married and hyphenate their names so that they can be lianna and rob mackadoo do nice that's all that's worthwhile that's a worthwhile call now i'm with i'm really no i'll take that i do believe that rob do has like 20 kids i of course i know i don't know how many kids he has but he's talked about having a lot of kids in the past and so i would assume like he's happy oh also there was that whole time when alex was selling super male

vitality and rob do i've been fucking my wife too much yeah she's mad at me she's mad at me that i take this super male vitality and my boner is too hard yeah so that is uncomfortable so i i believe that he's not on the market i kind of see rob do is like in the movies the the mob assassins the hit men who just he's just a hit man you know that's his day job and then he comes home and he's a perfect family man he could be completely divorces his professional life and his personal life i could see rob do being an amazing family man yeah it's possible yeah i don't i don't discount that as a possibility yeah i think that him and lianna are probably never going to work and never would have worked because she had the wherewithal to get away that was smart yeah whereas rob went to

germany and is still working there and did that stupid deposition leon would never do that bad idea hi pat guys i gotta be honest i'm calling uh because i miss time is my laundry and i'm waiting outside um big fan of your show i'm a college senior um i've been listening to knowledge right to kind of help me kind of get emotionally ready for my shitty shitty remote classes no that's what we're for so much for the work that you do um park alex jones uh good night all right better sort of thank you guys so much uh from amazon Massachusetts hell yeah in massachusetts like i like that too many people have been like i use your show for learning and all that shit no really mentally prepare yourself for shit to come with

a college fight really get into that mindset of people are going to be bad use me of meal emotionally yeah so i mean like hey it's tough for people in college right now yeah i feel for them i don't know and how difficult strike i don't know particularly like if you like i understand if you're like just entering college this is very weird and i have no idea how you would handle that but but if you're a couple of years into college the the shift i i just i have no idea my my heart goes out to people who are having to deal with it uh that situation now and uh like my my dad bursar's office i don't know what my dad's a professor and so he's talked to me about some of the sure uh the issues of of the remote teaching and stuff and i don't i don't know if his experience

is universal but to all the teachers who are having to deal with uh oh it's a nightmare yeah i keep your partners i keep telling my partner that she needs to convince everybody in the ctu to strike because this is just nonsense there's just no functional way to do it everybody's being set up for failure and then they're going to blame them when they fail yeah i mean we see it's a disgusting cycle that they're that everybody's being forced to play into it's awful we see these new stories that are coming out about like schools opening and then immediately closing yeah and it's it's disheartening i imagine there are also schools that have opened that have no cases and you don't hear about that maybe you would assume that's not necessarily newsworthy it's not impossible

i'm about to make a headline so it's possible that that it's obviously not universal that there are outbreaks everywhere sure but there definitely are sure it's a fucking challenge it's incredibly hard nightmare i was at the hardware store the other day because i needed i'm hanging some plant lights and i was talking to the guy there love love these dudes at the hardware store they're the best you like the hardware store love it i swear i belong in lakes and at hardware stores but i was talking to the guy and uh something that we really connected on and like both saw i eye on was i don't know like what's going on you know like i try to keep up with the news i try to listen to folks and i you know i'm perfectly happy to wear a mask and be careful

and and this stuff but like i feel like rudderless oh totally and i think that everybody has a certain amount of that and and one of the places where it's definitely the most marked is in a higher education and totally and even just primary education totally it's i can't like if i'm a 36 year old dude who's self employed and i feel directionless and like there's no leadership giving a clear message right i can't imagine what it must be like for people with the responsibility to teach and mentor the next generation it's it's a nightmare yeah it's gonna be it's a fucking as somebody privy to it it's a mad dash it's a scramble no one has any idea what they're going to teach nobody from the top who is supposed to be giving them like guidance is

doing anything other than being like hey you guys have known you know how to teach just just do one of those just do one of the teachers have you ever teach before then just do the teaching even though nobody has ever existed in this situation before that's not good it is a absolute fucking disaster and a tragedy and it is going to explode in everybody's fucking faces so our heart goes out to you caller who did not say your name good luck but also i would say that i like the people are calling while they messed up their laundry they're waiting that's very relatable that's nice dan does that perfect time to call dan jordan this is steven in texas how are you guys doing good i heard that we're starting the no gate party and i had some thoughts well more

specifically one there's only one thought to have if we get rid of gates we're still going to have political scandals so my idea we cut the gate keep the water yeah it's time trumps getting caught in rush of water okay we'll figure it out i leave that to you guys you're the heads of this you are the tat guys after all all right so get back to me water everything and it doesn't have to just be political we can still do all the other scandals too uh deflate water for the patriot not bad do it all anyways get back to me on this i like this because it's nonsensical i do appreciate it and then second i like this because he twice said get back to me i feel like i got to get back to him did he want to did he want to take his answer off air i feel like i've got a

respond and i will say sure let's do it yeah i'll call all scandals some water i like it i'm for it yeah a better than gate it's the water of waters that's for sure oh shadow water um all right here's another one okay hello knowledge fight guys jordan and dan this is white from columbia in missouri i'm just calling in because i did not know that dan was from columbia that was a real mindblower when i found that out i just wanted to call and let you know i think you would be dan proud of your former hometown we've been uh it's been protest god damn every day for some sword forward died representing the black lives matter crowd out here strong very proud of my community uh like i said i think you would be too i love you guys this show very

much makes me laugh gives me a lot of refutations to work with when i argue with my crazy republican family members and just overall i could not recommend your show enough uh and take care enjoy the soda stream and uh yeah bye thank you why yes thank you very much shout out columbia for sure and thank you guys yeah one of one of the things i think is really important and i appreciate why it's called because of this is like um you know there missouri is a state that is shit on and look down on in the same way a lot of states particularly in the south and the midwest are looked down on is like ah just a budget dumb dumb bumpkins and i think that's very unfair and i think it's a mentality that people need to train themselves out of and it's you know like columbia

is a town that is obviously it's a college town sure but it's also a very missouri town and it's very it's very nice to hear like i haven't been back in a number of years right but it's very nice to hear that there is still a good activist streak back when i used to live there my parents used to protest we talked about this every week every wednesday i would go out i wouldn't go out with them every wednesday but i used to go out with them a bit protest the iraq war back then it was just the peace nook bunch of hippies sure who sold fruit leather in a basement yeah hanging out they sold some patchouli oil sure who hasn't on some books but the these hippies at the peace nook would they sort of organize these protests it was very small and it's it's nice to hear

that a lot of that that sort of spirit yeah i know that definitely as the iraq war continued the movement got bigger and there were definitely more people and more protests but to know that a lot of that is still very active in columbia it's it's heartening yeah it makes me feel good it's one of the things that makes me think of how important it is to like follow and support local journalists and shit like that because the national news is not going to cover a protest in columbia missouri unless they burn down columbia missouri you know like that's the only way that they're going to get there so you wouldn't know so many different places are holding daily protests since george flood you wouldn't know so many different places

unless you were connected with that you know like i follow a bunch of i follow journalists on twitter who are just de paul like a grace delvecchio i believe she's doing an incredible work in chicago like that's the kind of stuff that you're not going to see on the the fucking national news so follow people around your area it takes an investment because it's hard to get those leads i guess or to to find voices you can trust but and that that is the part that's kind of like where this advice falls apart a little bit because it's like well do a lot of do your own work i don't work for you yeah but but then also too like i think the the really important point even beyond that is that like it's easy to stereotype places like a like you

know you'd see missouri and just be like guy is a red state and just write off all of it and that's not fair to the people in i mean like totally colombia is the city that i have the most exposure to but i spent a lot of time in various cities around even like springfield is a very conservative city but there are a ton of really cool people who live there and in the same way that i feel bad that i say fuck fresno because my my dad's family is from there and i don't like that city sure there are a ton of great people there and there's a ton of people who aren't the character of springfield missouri who live in springfield and i i i think we we do a disservice to a lot of regions of the country yeah by by by painting with such a broad brush and so i wanted

to play that call for for totally to to give a shout out to those places hell yeah so you have one last call hey dan and jordan it is echo from uh georgia hi echo we just finished listening to the uh most recent episode following up on uh alex's response to billy weaver shadow gate which is great the water of waters if you get the episode you mentioned that your next tattoo you're wanting it to be related to the tiny bullhorn may i gently suggest that um the tattoo itself be just a a a quite small uh tattoo of the tiny bullhorn and instead of a quarter for comparison just have it labeled on the bottom uh actual size like they do unlike medication labels where they show you the real size of the pill i just wanted to throw out my suggestion for uh

what the tiny bullhorn could end up looking like uh we really love the show a shout out to all my trans siblings who may be uh listening right now and uh thank you so much for keeping us company during quarantine hope you guys have a nice day bye bye thank you echo that's a good suggestion echo called back in actually and uh well pointed out that uh uh they're non binary oh did echo i apologize sorry go by they them um and so yeah appreciate that uh suggestion on the the tattoo i will say that uh actually that was stray talk i don't think that's going to be my next tattoo i actually think i have my next two tattoos planned out oh yeah tat guys talk tat guys talk well my next tattoo has to be there was another tattoo my brother designed he designed the life is very fragile

one and he also has a comic strip that he used to draw about me sure and there's a panel from it that's really funny it's called the all nighter yeah we've talked about that yeah it's a it's a panel of a comic strip version of me smoking a cigarette staring at a hungry hungry hippos board as if i'm studying it for like yes like trying to figure out what's going on with it and it's just so funny and so that is my next tattoo for sure because i love that and i love uh the art my brother does and so to honor that that's definitely next and then i think my next tattoo after that is going to be i don't know how exactly it is or the design of it but there's something that really resonates with me about a banyan tree okay the tree that have all those yeah it's coming down

yeah and so some version of that on my arm i think this is uh something that i'd like to my next plan i got to finish my for i'm going to finish more birds i'm going to finish my whole sleeve yeah i got to finish and i got to do the whole forearm and i'm i've peed i've peach i've patch worked everything you know yeah i've got so many tattoos all the way up to my shoulder yeah i want to finally do like a cohesive top on your bicep it's pretty coherent yeah yeah it is very disconnected is on your wrist you have like a sort of a leaf right right and then all the way up on my back and shoulder there's a bunch of different things that i've kind of put together and i want to finally do a full like sleeve sleeve sure so i'm working with a couple of people to try and

nice get a full fucking forearm sleeve i feel like the real seal breaking for me that i'm not sure about is hands i think i feel like you think the hands yeah there's a weird social taboo that i think that i still have inside me somewhat yeah about uh hand tattoos no totally i don't judge people who have them but i just don't know if i can have them oh you know my partner has a little swirl the little spiral on her hand tiny little spiral in the palm and even that i'm still like whoa you went hand tattoo hold on i don't know if we can do somehow to me palm is better palm is better it's less visible sometimes you can close your hand that's you know well i i will obviously be putting some transmutation circles on my hands yeah well like uh my buddy nick roley i haven't

talked to him in a while but old comedy buddy like one of the things that he like one of his running gags his bits or like just anytime anybody said anything that was eight letters he like knuckle tattoo knuckle tattoo he was obsessed with turning things into knuckle tattoos and i always like that was so funny that is great because a knuckle tattoo first of all is hilarious intense yeah but it's also hilarious hate and love now come on it goes all the way back buddy but if you also have like something like i don't know but chug that also right that also works it's funny to think of like eight letter things and and so i've i i at my old apartment i got this piece of mail and the person who used to live in my apartment's first name

was bogel job and i thought that was the funniest name and i feel you know culturally insensitive but also bogel job is an amazing name great name and i realized that's eight letters get bogel job you could as a knuckle tattoo true and i want to do that but i also think i don't think you can i don't think i don't think you can do it i don't think you can do it yeah i don't think you could live with yourself but maybe one day i would have to stop you because not because you wouldn't be able to do it but because at least six months from then i would have to hear you be like really regretting this bogel job yeah really regretting this bogel job thing yeah and that's what holds me back yeah which is probably what we call good sense yes um so thank you all for the

calls appreciate that that was a lot of fun of course uh we'll see you back next time indeed we will man i am going to be pretty tempted to just choose a random episode from the past and honestly we this is this is a nice little vacation i think this is a working vacation for us right yeah i almost feel like a next monday we can talk about the real world yeah we'll get back to the real world really feels like an escape we gotta yeah i don't know deal we did shadow gate dan shadow gate the gator water of water it it it's it's difficult you know like i feel like there's a responsibility to pay attention to the present and certainly the rnc is going on like that like anything important bunch of ding dongs and yelling about stuff yeah sure alex has thoughts about it

why not and you know i don't want to i don't want to lose track of the present but at the same time i want to make this show something that's enjoyable to create of course god damn was this enjoyable this was great so thank you all we'll be back until then yeah uh we have a website we do have a website it's knowledge fight dot com we're also on twitter we are twitter it's that knowledge of your fight and i go to bed jordan yep we're on facebook indeed we are we are also relied to say right about if you could please find a local charity or bail fund in your area please help out the people doing god's work right now yep we'll be back but until then i'm neo i'm leo i'm dzx clerk i'm darryl rundis i am vice president jeff sessions andy in chansas you're

on the air thanks for holding so alex i'm a first-name caller i'm a huge fan i love your work i love you