Knowledge Fight - #487: September 28, 2020

Episode Date: September 30, 2020

Today, Dan and Jordan check in to see how Alex covered the New York Times story about Trump's taxes. In this installment, Alex allows David Icke to say profoundly dumb things on air, Alex reveals that he knows nothing about history or the constitution, and Alex nearly overdoses on chills.

I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys knowledge fight. Dan and George, knowledge fight, need money. Andy and Kansas, stop it. Andy and Kansas, it's time to pray. Andy and Kansas, you're on the earth, thanks for holding it. Hello Alex, I'm Mr. Tim Cullen, I'm a huge fan, I love your work. Knowledge fight. I love you. Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes like sit around, drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex and Jordan. Oh, indeed we are. Dan. Jordan. Jordan. I have a quick question. What's up? What is your bright spot? Why don't you go first? My bright spot today, Dan, is my beautiful

dog Fanny, who is the cutest dog in the world. Debatable. Contrary to what some other people may say. I won many dog shows. Certified cute. That's cute dog. She has had problems with her eyes. She hasn't been producing tears as much as other dogs to a terrible extent. Maybe she's been in a good mood. Well, we've been, no, that's not quite true. No, we've been doing these drops for about a month now. We went back for a checkup appointment. Fanny is doing great, Dan. That's great. Best case scenario is what the doctor said. So I'm very excited. That is, that is great. Yes. Whenever an animal is doing poorly, it's a huge stress. Whenever you come out of that, it's really real. She's happy. Everybody's

happy. Yeah. I remember when Selene, when I first brought her into the home, she had some eye issues herself. You know, she only has one eye, but the one eye that was missing was like, well, their eyes. Not sure. Stigmatism. Yeah, I think so. No, she, you know, the, the either she was missing was like swelling up and it was really bad. And when, when that all got resolved, it was such an unbelievable release. It's incredible. Oh, congratulations to you. Amazing. Yeah. And your, your dog partner family. Absolutely. How about you? What? How about you? What's your right spot? My bright spot comes in the form of a mailbag Z. What? You know, Jordan, it's really interesting. This mailbag experiment has been full of some

things that you expect. We like some nice seltzers show up from time to time. And then sometimes things that are like completely out of left field that are pretty cool. Yeah, we got the Dodgers left field. Yeah, we did. We got a couple of things. First, Mary Catherine sent a bag of ghost pepper popcorn. Oh, yes. Did you try that? We haven't tried it, but you and I need to try it. It will. I was thinking about doing a couple of things that are like heat challenges. Sure. Like I know that right now there's like this chocolate bar or whatever, you know, that one chip challenge thing too. I know that people like Jared Holt do like it for charity. Like the human really, I've never heard of this one chip for charity kind of thing. I

was just thinking we could just feel like I'm getting cheated out of a lot of chips in this circumstance. Oh, it's like really hot. Okay, all right. It's like painfully hot. Okay, not a chocolate chip. No, no, but there's also a really hot chocolate bar that is the same sort of thing. Okay, I was thinking like I just want to eat it. Well, yeah, of course you want to try it because you want to get to charity. Go for it. For sure. No, I need an excuse to just try it. So I was thinking about that. Maybe that ghost pepper popcorn could be involved. We could do that and something like that because now that you're a guy who can handle spice, I feel like maybe there's a lot more territory we can explore there. It's almost a cop-out that the episode I discovered

that I can handle heat, it was a lost episode. That is a little unfortunate. Nobody will ever be able to prove it. Yeah, well, we know in our heart of hearts that it was there. But I lie to you, Dan. Depends on about what, maybe. Fair enough. So the next thing that we have that is really super unexpected is this really interesting kagagami high, I believe. Yes, yeah. I'm not entirely sure how to pronounce this, but it is a humorous role-playing game about Japanese school girls in a school full of conspiracies and the unexplained. I was a creation of a listener named Aaron Clooney. It set this in and I'm tempted to want to try and play it. No, I read through the whole thing. There's some very funny character descriptions and one of the big things is

describing all of the settings that they can take place in. Some of those were very, very funny. Okay. Yeah, it's pretty good. I have not had a chance to read through much of it. I've leafed through a tiny bit and it seems like I have not had a lot of experience in the realm of role-playing games, but I think the first time you experience a role-playing game, you should be a Japanese high school girl in a school full of conspiracies. Exactly. Perhaps. That's the only thing that makes sense to me. Yeah. So the final thing here in the bag is, I'm going to read this here. Please do. Dear Dan and Jordan, whilst doing background research into possible ideas for a text adventure, I came across the enclosed item and instantly thought of you guys. This is an original flyer

for a concert in honor of ex-president George Bush Sr. by the lake at the Bohemian Grove, the weekend after Alex Jones gate crashed the place in July 2000. I imagine the security detail at the Grove was far higher than the weekend before. All the best, Dan from Newcastle, UK. If you look behind you, it's up there on the wall now. I framed it. Oh, shit. That. It's an amazing flyer for a band concert celebrating George Bush Sr. That's surreal. And if you can't see it because it's in the frame, but on the back of it, there's just like the program. It's like that's a real flyer that has like who played the bassoon that night. Insane. Yeah. Absolutely insane. And one of the things I think is really, really cool about that

is it goes so far towards like showing that like this isn't the secretest of society. If they're letting a conductor Norbert Molder in there, Norbert, then we're definitely able to get in at any point in time. They're printing up these things and have all the credits for everybody who put on their pageants. You know, it's like they're not trying to keep that to under wraps. The guest conductor's name was Skitch Henderson. If a skitch is getting into Bohemian Grove, you know it's not a secret society. What a fucking murderer's row. You got Skitch and Norbert. You got the classic, classic conductor duo of Skitch and Norbert. Yeah. So I just think that's really awesome. And in terms of like things, who's on first chair? All right, I'm going to keep on

moving. In terms of things like to decorate the space in the studio, I can think of a few things that are cooler than, you know, like we've got a painting of Leo Zagami. Totally. We get a flyer from Bohemian Grove. It's just like, yeah, this is shaping up quite nicely. No, this is, this is turning into one of those like, oh, accidentally, I've been working on figurines for my entire life. So my entire room is just filled with nonsense. And you're like, this is great. Info Wars magazine, tyranny slapper one. Why not? It's just great. Great. I love it. So thank you so much, Dan, Aaron and Mary Catherine. We appreciate you. Thank you very much. Delightful gifts. So Jordan, today, what we get in front of us is a little episode where we're going to be

talking about what Alex Jones was up to on September 28th, 2020. Oh, no. I'm Dan. This is 2020. Oh, god damn it. So the reason for the 28th is because the night before the story of Trump's taxes in the New York Times broke. And so obviously, you know, it's kind of interesting to see what maybe Alex says you would think. And then also, I didn't want to do the 29th because today, as we're recording this on Tuesday, is the night of the debate. Right. And Alex is doing a live stream all day for the night. God. And so maybe on Friday, we'll do a debate and debate after math. Oh, no. Kind of episode. Yeah. But for now, I just figured like the 28th, let's see. Yeah. New York Times has put out this expose. What do they got? Yeah. So here we go. You're gonna get into it.

But first, you gotta take a moment to say thank you to some folks who signed up for our sporting show. Oh, that's a great idea. So first, Stephen M. Thank you so much. You are now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thanks, Stephen. Thank you. Next, Patrick D. Thank you so much. You are now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much, Patrick. Thank you, next, Bread2orNotHere Erica Chrome. Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much, Bread. Thank you. Next, Dr. Bill. Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thanks Dr. Bill. Thank you. Next, Rachel CR. Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much, Rachel. Thank you! Next, Commander Holly.

All one word. All right. Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much, Karim Commander Holly. Thank you. Next, Tim M. Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thanks, Tim. Thank you. Then finally, I'd like to say thank you to a couple people who donated on an elevated level. We appreciate that very much. So first, SOM, S-O-M, last initial K. Thank you so much. You are now a technocrat. And Dan didn't read my joke name when I became a policy wonk. Thank you so much. You are now a technocrat. I'm a policy wonk. Crocky, mate. That's fantastic. Have yourself a brew. How's your 401K doing, bro? All right. We got to go full tilt boogie on this Watson, all right? Let's just get down to business.

We ain't making that money off that heroin. Why are you pimp so good? My neck is freakishly large. I declare info war on you. Thank you so much, SOM. And thank you so much. Dan didn't read my joke name when I became a policy wonk. Yes. Thank you very much to the both of you. If you're out there listening to anything, hey, I enjoyed the show. I'd like to support these gents, too. You can do that by going to our website, KnowledgeFight.com, clicking the button to support the show, or... Indeed you could. Or, Dan, what you could do is you could take that generous spirit. All right. Get yourself a mortar and pestle. Put some herbs from the garden in there. Maybe get a little worm wart. All right. Ground that all up into a tiny little paste. All right. Is worm wart a thing?

Yes, it's totally a thing. I think you think of worm wood. No, I'm thinking of worm wart. Okay. With a W-O-R-T on it, are you looking up whether worm wart exists right now? You bet. All right. So what you do is you get that and you grind it into a little bit of a paste, turn it into a poultice, Dan, and you use that poultice to heal the ills of society via giving your generous money to a bail fund or local charity. I appreciate how you landed that, but I do need to point out that if you Google worm wart, the first thing it says is, did you mean worm wood? There's worm wart isn't a thing. It is totally a thing. It's apparently not. It's a thing. Worm wart. Uh-huh. Nope. Okay, fine. Worms wart is something from

Disney. It's an object from the Nightmare Before Christmas. All right. It's an ingredient in the Nightmare Before Christmas. It's a fictional ingredient. I genuinely might be thinking of Lord of the Rings here. No, it's Nightmare Before Christmas. Is it just Nightmare Before Christmas? Worms wart is the last ingredient Sally uses for the soup that makes Dr. Finkelstein's slumber. And that's why you need to put it into your generous poultice, Dan. Why have I always thought that's a thing? I don't know. What's wrong with me? It's also a, it's from a thing when I was like nine years old. It's also a beer apparently put up by Rarr Brewing. I hope I wasn't drinking that when I was nine years old. That's a micro brew out of

Maryland. Okay. That probably is out of my price range. So probably not what you're thinking. Not good for a kid. No. So probably Nightmare Before Christmas. All right. Could be. Could be. It's possible. So Jordan, um, today, uh, like I said, we're going to be going over this 28th episode. And I mean, the big thing is the night before Trump's tech story brought. Sure. Sure. And so we're really interested in finding out what Alex's response to that is. And here's an out of context drop from today's show. When I've been scammed, I admit it. I warn others. Oh, what I noticed with amateurs, people that never grow as they never want to admit when they've been conned, this has nothing to do with Trump's tech story. This is totally the

the emails again. This is like there's a Nigerian prince. Totally. This is the Nigerian prince again. Isn't it? It's totally that. It's not. It's not in relation to anything, but it does make me think that Alex has been screwed screwed over by a few of those cons. Of course. Yeah. So today we start off and Alex got up pretty early this morning on the 28th and he's got chills to multiply. Okay. This morning when I got up at 530 and read the Paul Joseph Watson article and then clicked on the actual document, I had electrical chills run up and down my spine for about three minutes. I've never had it run up my spine. Check your surge protectors. Because in the document was the absolute keys to total victory over the new world order.

We're going to be talking about that coming up. Weird noise. Yeah. A little bit of a horse kind of action going on there. Yeah. It's like Mr. Ed figuring out what taxes mean. You know, whenever I see something and I get excited, I get a chill up my spine. Three minutes of chills. That's a long time. That might be a little bit too long. Yeah. That might be a go to your doctor length of chills. That's an absurd amount of time for you to be experiencing like what would be like your hair on your arm raising up, you know, like that. That experience for three minutes would be a lifetime. That is a scalar attack. If I've ever heard one in my entire life, whenever your foot falls asleep, it feels like it's three minutes. It's terrible. It lasts for 40 seconds. Yeah.

It's nothing. Yeah. Oh boy. Anyway, there's some sort of a report that Alex has read that is like really just like, oh, yeah, sure it is. He doesn't get to that immediately because he's got other headlines he wants to talk about. And now it's official Pelosi came out last night. Nancy Pelosi prepares for House of Representatives vote to elect the president under the Constitution if they cannot decide the election according to problems with the voting by January 20th, then they will hold a vote the day after on who the new president is and the House of Representatives will elect the president. That's never happened before in our 244 years of history. Not true. But here it is. And so that's one of their main plans. Immediately you like just

fuck you. Not true. Get the fuck out of here. So Alex is reporting on a story that was covered in NPR where they discussed how Pelosi sent out a fundraising letter urging people to support Democratic candidates in battleground districts throughout through the House majority political action committee. Yes. She warned that it was essential to have more Democrats in the House in case the election does end up being decided by the House vote, which it would be if the winner weren't determined by January 6th, 2021 when they need to validate the Electoral College. Exactly. She only sent out this letter in response to comments Trump made at a rally in Pennsylvania where he said, quote, I don't want to go back to Congress either,

even though we have an advantage if we go to Congress. It's counted one vote per state, so we actually have an advantage. According to the Constitution, the House vote for a presidency does not go by actual House members. The representatives from each state combined to form a delegation, which then gets a single vote. As it stands now, if things broke down on purely party lines, the GOP would win a contested election that was decided by the House, which is what Trump was talking about, which is what Pelosi was referring to with her fundraising letter. This is not Pelosi's coup plan. It's her trying to raise money to elect more Democrats by warning that this is clearly something that Trump may try to use to his advantage in the case of a

contested election, but that if there were a majority of Democratic delegations, this plan would not work. As always, Alex is taking the Democratic response to something Trump says and claiming it's proof of their plans. Now, to what your response was, for a scholar of American history, Alex certainly doesn't know much about American history. Well, a lot of it disagrees with what he wants it to be. You know his favorite president, the one he cites fake quotes from all the time? You know Thomas Jefferson. Do you mean Jefferson Davis? No, Thomas Jefferson. Oh, okay. He was named president by the House of Representatives in the 1800s. Says who prove it? Three senators approved the fact in the 1800 election. He was named president

by the House. Sure. Thomas Jefferson and Aaron Burr had tied in the Electoral College. So the decision was made by a vote in the House. This experience along with other frustrations about how elections were carried out led to the passage of the 12th Amendment, which in addition to other issues it resolved, it made it so electors would cast separate votes for president and vice president, whereas previously they just cast votes and whoever got the most was president, whoever came in second was vice president, which is a dumb system. Incredibly dumb. It was amazing. It was kind of amazing how stupid it was. So after the passage of the 12th Amendment in the 1824 election, the House elected John Quincy Adams, who actually ended up second place

in the Electoral College behind Andrew Jackson. Jackson believed he was the victim of a conspiracy between Adams and Speaker of the House Henry Clay, which will ultimately be the argument of anyone who loses an election that ends up in the House of Representatives. Sure. In some ways, though, he kind of was. But that's because he was a terrifying idea of a president and when he became president, he was a terrifying monster of a president. If you go back and you look at the circumstances surrounding the 1824 election, that contention of like they teamed up against me, maybe. Yeah, but you were a threat to the very existence of the Republic. Maybe there's a little bit of a column A column B situation.

Leaving that aside, Alex would be right if he said that the House voting for the president has never happened in modern American history, but they did come into play in past elections more than zero times. If Alex wanted to say this, it would be hugely out of the ordinary event to have happened. He could do that. Yeah, but he doesn't know anything about history and he wants to really overhype this as a never before kind of thing. So he ends up just sounding like an idiot that even like I'm not saying that you're stupid, but even you just casually listen to that. Nope. Nope. Next. Next. Fortunately for Alex, pretty much all of his listeners have no idea about history either. So they don't have that same response that you do like, oh, fuck yourself.

I mean, a lot of history disagrees with what they believe. So why would you learn about it? That's a terrible idea. Or it's like, wait, that happened. Yeah. I do think if more people learned our early American history all the way up until like what with the modern era, like 1918 or something like that, just be if they learned how stupid America was, they'd be like, oh, the founding fathers were not great. Yeah. Yeah. Familiarity with that part of history makes you admire certain aspects of history and historical figures, but it also erodes the American exceptionalist idea. Totally. Like it really disabuses you of the notion that like, wow, we are so great. They were a bunch of dumb, dumb, fumbling around.

Yeah. That was it. But they probably had a lot of chills for three minutes at least. That's my way of transitioning that Alex is back to talking about chill. Okay. I am constantly having chills now. And I like him that the out of the doctor of Lord of the Rings when they've got the elf sword the goblin cleaver when goblins are near it starts blowing blue. That's not called the globbin cleaver glowing and shimmering. But nope, it's called sting. And also when you know you've got a chance to bring the enemy down, your spirit resonates, tells you danger, danger or tells you this is key. This is key. Don't they have a plan B that is kill everyone soon. Right? Shortly. Right. So you have a goblin got chills. You got goblin

cleaver that's giving you chills forever because you have a chance to destroy the enemy. But you yourself have already made clear that you're only able to stop playing a even plan B. Even he would be like, listen, I was just in a bad mood. Okay. I was in a bad mood. So I made up plan B. Right. You're still on plan A. Well, I would suggest that if he should do that because that would be taking responsibility for the fact that he like when I get in a bad mood, I say the globals are going to murder everybody sometimes so we can move forward with that awareness that sometimes you talk about the apocalypse when you're bummed. That would be good. I had a really bad day. So I assumed everyone was going to die and I kind of want it to happen. That would be helpful context

for people to navigate this sort of material with. Anyway, the document that Alex is talking about that he's having a chill fit about is an article in Tablet Magazine titled quote, China's Global Lockdown Propaganda Campaign. Alex believes that it's about how China made up the idea that public health measures should be taken in response to COVID-19 and how the globalists are using the virus for social control. Sure. Naturally, I don't think that Alex has read this article, which is actually about how the Chinese government has been waging a campaign on social media to promote their own response to the virus and make themselves look better in hindsight. Right. Right. Right. It's an interesting article that drifts from pretty concrete stuff like how the Chinese

government clearly paid for bots to promote their response to the virus and a total critics. Of course. And then it gets into some pretty speculative territory like the idea that she is paying those bots to promote the locking down of the world in order to help bring about a socialist world with China at the center of it. Now, hold on right there. I think there's some assumptions being made along those lines. Yeah. I read this article and my take on it is that it's interesting. It brings up some interesting things and it's definitely wise to be wary of the Chinese government, but a lot of the speculations in the article are not earned. Ah, you know. The article is written by a guy named Michael Sanger. His only published article

on tablet or anywhere else as best I can tell is this one. And the only link in his bio is to a Twitter account. His Twitter account, which is opened in August 2013, but the earliest tweet that appears in the timeline is from June 30th, 2020, and is a retweet of something posted by Nikki Haley about China. Okay. Okay. All of his tweets, just everything since then has been about China being bad. Interestingly, you can find his LinkedIn page fairly easily. And it turns out he's a quote federal and international tax lawyer, which makes his expertise just slightly outside the realm of China is trying to run a PSI opt to control the world theory. I don't know what international tax law would draw you to that conclusion. You know what I'm saying? Like, is there a certain tax

code that's like, if you violate this tax code, we know it's a propaganda campaign to try and turn the world into a socialist. I'm not sure, man. Are you sure? Yeah. I don't have anything to go on here. Outside of like, just everything I can tell makes me think that this guy writing an article doesn't have that much weight. No, but a lot of the a lot of the things that are brought up are interesting. Just like when it drifts into like, this is all fake. Yeah, kind of stuff. It's like, well, yeah. So that's kind of Alex's big narrative. A lot of it is like, Oh my god, we've found the smoking gun. Sure. That China has run this as a takeover the world operation from the beginning. And it's an op-ed. Right. Does the op-ed mention China creating vampires and hiding them within

their homes and plating them up with metal? The jury is still out on this. Oh god, damn it. It's gotta be true. I'm sorry. I don't have any evidence on this. There's gotta be vampires. There's gotta be vampires. Nope. But there are chills. Okay. And my Spidey sense, and I know your Spidey sense is is like blue lightning right now. It is on fire. But of course, you can see why it's on fire right in front of you. Can you do the show right now? Ladies and gentlemen, look at these headlines. Nancy Pelosi says she will decide who the president of the United States is and may install herself. Wow. Yes, that is a wow. I would definitely say wow to that. Wow. She had said that I too would say wow. Yeah. Alex is conflating two things there. The first is the

idea that as Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi is third in line for the presidency after the vice president in the event that there needs to be like a transference of power. Yes. The second thing is that idea that the house may vote on who wins the 2020 election if it's not decided by January 6th. Alex knows literally nothing about history or civics. So he's just pretending that Nancy Pelosi could install herself as president because she's in the line of continuity of government. Sure. This is stupid because there are rules to how the House can operate when they're voting for president. This is very clear if you know anything about American history. The House can only vote for candidates who are the top three vote receivers in the general election. So it

wouldn't even be possible for Pelosi to vote for herself in the case that the decision goes to the House. It would however be possible for Joe Jorgensen to surprisingly win the 2020 election. This actually came up in the 1824 election. Andrew Jackson and Joe Jorgensen won. Andrew Jackson and John Quincy Adams were the two top vote getters but people were concerned that Henry Clay would be able to win it once it went to the House because he was the Speaker of the House and he was a pretty powerful congressional figure. Sure. However Clay wasn't able to even be considered since he'd come in fourth in the general election and was thus disqualified for a House vote. Clay would go on to support Adams. Hence Jackson's contention that he lost due to

the result of a conspiracy. Sure. A contention that was strengthened when Adams made Henry Clay his Secretary of State. There is you know I don't think we've ever had corruption in our government before in the past. I can't think of any people who have been friends of the president who've suddenly got cushy diplomat jobs. That's wild. You know what I was wild. You know what I was thinking about that. How little I take the time to examine the fact that like JFK was president and his brother was the attorney general. It's not kind of fucked up. Yeah. That's been so normalized. It's totally like a second. Well the problem is I think what happened is it turned out RFK accidentally turned into a good person. Like at the beginning of the administration

everyone was like holy shit. This guy's a fucking lunatic and then he became a good person. Everyone was like we'll just forget about it. You're fine. You're a good dude. It's staggering to me to now imagine like a president. Here's my brother. Ivanka Trump is our new fucking attorney general. Why not? Or even go with like a democratic administration that you're in favor of. Sure. To more degree than a Trump. Imagine if Michelle Obama was the AG. Right. That's the same basic thing. Yeah. Yeah. It's it. Yeah. But when you realize that a president was also a sitting Supreme Court justice you're like this can't be real. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There's all these quirks. Yeah. So anyway it's literally spelled out in the 12th amendment that only the top three vote

receivers could be considered for the House in the case that they have to vote for the president. We've seen a play out in past elections so this is not unprecedented. Alex just seems to know nothing about the Constitution or history because if he did it would be incredibly embarrassing for him to get on air and suggest that somehow Nancy Pelosi could install herself as president by way of this House vote. She couldn't be considered for that vote. And even if she could the GOP would win a House delegate vote in the current House. So this would never happen. It's just Alex talking shit. Yeah. Just talking shit. Yeah. Pretty much exactly. Yep. So Alex is pretty excited because David Ike has been putting on speeches in the UK against COVID and what have you.

And they're doing great. I hear one of the things that Alex has been making a big deal out of is police being maybe something you might describe as brutal against the protesters. Murderous. Well the brutality that's being directed at protesters at David Ike rallies. Sure. He seems to be in favor of it when it's against people in Portland or Black Lives Matter. Sure. Of course. He thinks it's the worst thing in the world when it's being directed towards. I feel like there's something inconsistent about that but I can't put my hand on it. There is. And there is. There might be a little something right. Yeah. So anyway here's a clip of David Ike's speech from that one of those rallies that Alex plays. I am the lizard king.

It's close. It's close. People human family across the world. You are. You really it's not what they have been telling you. And what the human family has done is allow the psychopaths to hijack our imagination of ourselves. The human family is coming together. We've got our differences. You've had our fights but we're humans. We're red blooded. What we're facing is not of this world and seems to end our reign on this planet. And I know victory will be ours. Okay. All right.

How many billions are going to die in the process. Okay. That's no no no no stop right there. Ladies and gentlemen thank you so much for joining us. Oh a lot of people are going to die in this fight. Jesus. The question is it going to be five hundred million or is it going to be seven billion. What about eight. Could it be eight. They're going to wipe out humanity down to five hundred million. That's so the idiots going along with it think they're going to survive. They're going to be killed too. And as soon as they figure it out a lot of them are going to be forced to join us. Citation the Georgia guy. Alex come on man. Man it seems like he should be very aware though that he has also been the victim of exactly that. Like he was supporting

Trump because he thought he was going to be taken along with the ride and then Trump abandoned him and tossed him to the to the wolves. Does he not draw a one to one parallel between those two things. Is that not possible for him. Oh I mean we heard in the out of context draft that when he gets caught he admits it. It's real straight up about it. Never mind. Everybody I realize now that he's fixed it. Yeah. I love like David Ike in that clip is just like you think you're in a fucking movie. You're playing a character now. This is ridiculous. Yeah. Alex comes in like oh man we're fighting alien demons. God it's so bad. It's so bad.

It's just really unfortunate. I feel like using our skills as comedians just as public speakers we could run circles around David Ike. We could just lie like him. It would be easy. Just say a bunch of movie lines. We don't have is our independence day. We don't have the benefit of the years of like baggage. That's true. That's true. And in that speech he does talk about how like they laughed at me on the street. Of course he does. Still do. Still do David. It was once a pariah banned from YouTube and Twitter back in the day. The only place I could post videos were Bitshoot and Alex Jones's website. But no wait. Oh no it's the same. Oh fuck shit. You guys better awaken real hard real fast real quick. Yeah.

I think that this is really sad when you think back to like those old videos of Alex where he was like someone like David Ike is a turd in the punch. Yeah. It's like you're celebrating the exact things that you used to say were meant to make your world look bad. Yeah. Your conspiracy right wing patriot world. You are now the turd in the punch bowl. Yeah. And it only makes sense that you're spending your time celebrating David Ike's dumb speeches. Yeah. I mean if you're also a turd in the punch bowl there's nothing that can make you look worse than a turd in the punch bowl. So you and the other turds in the punch bowl might as well get together. Yeah. In his late twenties Alex probably felt like there was a chance that that wouldn't be the

trajectory that his career had to take. Sure. Sure. And now he's seems like he's run out of creativity run out of options. Fuck it. Let's be a piece of shit in the punch bowl. Yeah. Why not. Speaking of turds in punch bowls. So I'm going to use the Veritas thing where they caught Ilhan Omar. Oh fuck off. Red handed just bragging and how they're harvesting the balance now they're doing all these scams. And I mean this is what Ilhan Omar's name is crime. I mean she comes from a crime syndicate family. She thinks it's funny. She's funded by Soros. That's all coming up briefly. This is a critical area to keep us on air. They had been trying to shut us down for a long time. You know that and folks have really been coming through and buying a lot of

products. Yeah. So he's got sales. Great. Nice. I'm going to say that I think I probably reached the point where like Project Veritas releases don't even like intrigue me. I'm so mad. I'm so mad that people are still no. Not even. I'm not even interested in what the lie is. Absolutely not. That's what I'm mad at is that people I'm still reading about it like the only headline that I should read about Project Veritas is Project Veritas releases video. Fuck them. The end. No article. Yeah. No article. No nothing. Just who fucking cares. Yeah. It's such a deeply disturbing thing that anybody like any news outlet regardless of their level of credibility would like have the brazenness to be like well right they've

been wrong all the time forever and here's another time. We'll give it a shot. Yeah. Hey come on. It seems to me to be just a bummer. It's the same thing. They've reached James O'Keeffe to me has reached Jacob Wall territory totally where it's it's I'm not even interested in what his new stunt is or whatever the thing. It's just like all right. Fuck off. Here we go again. Yeah. You guys have your fun with your bullshit. Just leave me out of it. Yeah. I've seen some deconstructions of this new video that O'Keeffe Scott and I'm it doesn't even rise to the level of like I care to debunk this. No. It's if a meteorologist played a clip of Sharknado. That's what level of research and reality we're dealing with here.

Or yeah. Yeah. I was trying to think of another one of those movies in Sharknado too. That's right. Yes. So David Ike is on the show. Okay. Turns out great. Awaken. I wish I wish it was just that. That'd be great. This guy's so fucking dumb. Anyway, Alex needs to paint him as a prophet. Sure. And so he lies a little bit about his career. Well you said on my broadcast 25 years ago there will become a time of emergence. You said there'll be a global awakening in 20 right back in 2020. But humanity will win in the future after that. I know you were just streaming consciousness then but you wrote articles saying now you did predicted that that's even better than my predictions buddy. David Ike did not go on Alex's show and predict that stuff. That's by the

year 25 years ago. That is gaslighting. For some context 25 years ago in 1995 David Ike was pretty strongly promoting the protocols of the Elders of Zion. Sure. And those have come true right? Oh no. Oh. And I bet he probably tries to pretend like I didn't. That's even that's unfair. Alex you have to just be like fuck it. Yeah I did. I loved it. I don't give a shit. Fuck yeah protocols. I don't care. Now leaving David Ike's earlier career aside. Sure. Because good. I mean even Alex thought that was a turd in the punch bowl. That's fair. His current career has some problems. Oh like what? Well he has a solution to tyranny. Okay let's hear it. Before I went to break we just joined us. He was talking about what stops tyranny. What the real brick walled tyranny is. Tiny

bullhorns. Yeah. What has broken every tyranny in history is self-respect. Having it. I'm not being told what to do by people who are simply telling me that I have to hand all my freedom to them. I'm not doing it. The notion that self-respect is the thing that's broken down all tyrannies is such a stupid and meaningless idea that I have no duty to even address it as a serious thing that someone say. No when they found Saddam in that little hole he came out and he's like everybody had too much self-respect. Oh no. No. One thing that's an offshoot of his mentality that I think is worth discussing is that it's very very fucked up. Yeah. If you believe that all tyranny is destroyed by self-respect then there's never been a situation where tyrants have

existed except in cases where the people they were tyrannical over just didn't respect themselves enough. Yep. This is a pretty nice version of victim victim blaming and if I were Alex I would ask the follow this follow-up question. Did the Jews and Nazi Germany just not respect themselves enough? Did the Native Americans here in our country just not respect themselves enough? Is the actual problem with the Chinese government currently that the Chinese people just don't respect themselves enough? You can easily see how this mentality is painfully childish and has no relationship to the real world. All this is is an attempt by David Ike to paint himself as the only person with the real answer to the problems of the day but his answer is meaningless. Sure we should

respect ourselves and others but if you think that's the one thing that's required to topple tyranny you're gonna find yourself subject to tyrannical rule really quick. A lot too. Like not even a little bit of tyrannical rule like so much tyrannical rule. This is what a kid thinks. I mean even that like it seems like so here's the thing that really is is so telling. All right when they've got the tyrant they want the only thing that stops tyranny is self-respect. Yeah respect yourself. R-E-S-P-E-C-T-S-C-L-L. When they don't have the tyrant they want it seems like the only way tyrants leave is in chains or in a body bag. It does seem strange how there's two different versions of tyrant that they fight against Dan. It is strange how that works. Yeah yeah.

Odd. I wonder I wonder why that is the case. I think they pick sides. I'm gonna go out I'm gonna go out on a limb and say they pick sides Dan. I can't I can't stress how much that disappointed me like even for someone who expects so little of these people people like David Ike I expect nothing from him. Nothing. I legitimately was listening to this with the expectation they're like I'm not even gonna cut any clips because whatever he says is just gonna be stupid David Ike. But then he said that and I'm like what the fuck is wrong with you. Do you know what I expect from him? Awaken! That I got what I wanted out of that. I don't need out of their bullshit. That's from his speech that's not from an Alex interview. That's true. Everyone phones those

in. Sure. Um but yeah respect yourself. And then that's a brick wall to tyranny. Can't do it. Wow. Yeah. That's how we don't tear down that brick wall. Mr. Gorbachev I finally self-respect myself. I mean there's there is like some decent advice. You should respect yourself. Sure. Great regardless of tyranny or not. It's good to respect yourself. Right. Right. Right. But this has the same tone as like being like hey you know if you stand up for yourself bullies won't pick on you. Sure. Yeah a lot of times they still will. No they'll get more people together because you're only one guy. And when they're bullies they bully other people into bullying you. It's a really great system for bullies. Yeah. I mean hey that may work. It may work to stand up to a bully. It may be the better

option in terms of teaching a child a lesson or whatever. Maybe. I don't know. I'm not a parent. Sure. But I do know from being someone who was bullied. Yeah. Does not work. No. No. Now I mean it's not interpretation. The best interpretation of that would be like it has to a lot of people can't simply acquiesce to the tyranny. You know like if everybody respects themselves they won't acquiesce to tyranny but that's still stupid bullshit. Right. It's a naive position that doesn't take into account the complexities of how people actually live. It doesn't take into account all the guns that the state can use against the people who respect themselves. I've never been like I know this AR-15 is scary but I've got so much respect for

myself. That is a factor. Yeah. So this clip is stupid. You pioneered exposing this but every ancient culture recognized it. The Bible said there's an alien force maroon on the planet that wants to destroy us take us over uses. Where. Now that's not even debated now. All the big globalist where is it not to say oh no we're in control by entities. What anybody that really says they're an atheist anymore. They all just mean part of something bigger. But yeah man it's not even debated anymore that demons are running things. Well obviously it's aliens from outer space who the Bible says it in that book that the Bible says aliens are real. I mean I guess if you listen to Alex Jones and take him seriously you might get the idea that it's not debated

anymore. Well he doesn't debate. Extra that's true. Extra dimensional demons are running the Democratic Party. Well we don't have debates on it anymore so it's obviously not being debated. It's just like everyone is admitted it. Yeah. No don't Elon Musk came out and he was like oh look aliens have been controlling human society as a simulation. Anyways we're going to kill seven billion. Right. Moving on. Didn't you see the rock. Yeah. Not the wrestler. The one in Georgia. Yes. The big stone slab in Georgia. No I thought you were talking about Sean Connery. No. So. And two time Oscar award nominee Ed Harris. I can't tell you anything about vampires. Sure. We have no updates on vampires. Although there is another sort of character of the sci-fi realm

that David I know. I wish you warned us of the hippogriff. But no it is not that. It is cyborgs. Okay. Why do they want to make us cyborgs. Well here's something because that's what they are. Assimilating humanity into themselves. We are talking about an artificial intelligence that's actually behind this. And what we call artificial intelligence is much deeper than that. Is that why they come off so inauthentic. You can instantly see them. They don't look real. There's something off. Well this is the point Alex. They're cyborgs. That's my favorite rhetorical trick. I do love the raise a question. That's a Steve Pachennic like do you know who had the first case of COVID and cured it. Me. Like that's that. Oh do you know. I know the guy very well.

Yeah exactly. Because his name is me. Do you know why they want to turn us into cyborgs. Because they are cyborgs. David Ike just got fucking high and watched an episode that had the board in it for the next generation. Tom Hardy's finest work. Oh god it's just painful. It's just painful. Now I think this is really interesting because he's talking about these cyborgs. They're what he calls the psychopaths. Naturally. And David Ike makes a clarification here that I thought was going to go the exact opposite direction that it does. Okay. I refer to these people as psychopaths. And what is a psychopath. A psychopath has no empathy. Me. Has no remorse. Has no compassion. And what am I describing. I'm describing a computer. A computer has no

empathy. It has no compassion. It has no remorse. It just processes information. This is what these people are. And when I look at Bill Gates I see no human energy. I see no human life. I see no human sparkle in his eyes. I see a cyborg. And what I would say like an AI. But what I would say is very important to emphasize is when I use terms like you know they're a form of AI and they're a form of non human kind of technology. Now I'm going to pause right there because that's this is the beginning of the clarification. Sure. And I thought I would bet anything I own that he's going to say I'm speaking metaphorically. Oh no. Absolutely not. Not for once in my not while listening to that not once did I think he was not being 100% literal.

I for sure thought he's like I'm speaking with the terms that are meant to convey. I'm not talking about a literal cyborg. Turns out I'm not talking about technology that we know about. I'm not talking about AI that we know about. It's far far more. It's obviously an interdimensional imprint transmission that they're that they're that they're dialed into. Yeah. Okay. So obviously the clarification isn't that I'm speaking metaphorically. It's that it's future technology. That's that's that's Futurama. It's like I think his tax plan goes too far. I think his tax plan doesn't go too far enough. It's it's it's an interesting clarification because like what he's saying is all right look just to be clear. I'm not talking about anything

anybody knows exists. Yeah. Of course not. I'm talking about magic and just to be clear that AI bullshit that you've read about. Oh I read Isaac Asimov. Nah. This is like Isaac. Oh shit. It is like Isaac Asimov. Never mind to be clear. If you are somebody who's let's say engineer maybe you're somebody who knows a lot about AI and you think that I'm talking shit. Ah. Counterpoint prize. Superfuture magic technology. I'm talking about something that no one knows exists. You can't debunk me. Try and fight me. Try and fight me. You don't even know about it. It doesn't even know about you. You can't debate me because I'm making it up. I think we should be run by AI. Honestly the more I think about it the more I think machine

learning the way that machine learning is tackled go and turned it into something that is inconceivable and that it just wins all the time against the top go players in the world. I figure you feed all of human history into an AI and machine learn it and it's going to be like hey the only time good things happen is when people cooperate with each other. So I don't think it's going to make the pull the trigger kill all humans thing. I think it's going to be like we can't allow them to govern themselves. They're stupid. We just will take care of it and you guys will all be happy. That's my guess. That's my theory. I'm not sure I agree with you 100 percent and I would say that this is going to make it much tougher for me to support you in your bid for

the supreme leader ruler. But you have some interesting ideas. Well I only get my plan for despotic rulers. I get three years to fix anything and then everybody gets to kill me. Right. But it's the rule of despotic rulers. But apparently during that three years you're going to let machines rule every course because you guys can't handle it. Look at the world right now. So this is I can't leave the world in your hands. This isn't three years of you. Then you die. It's three years of youth. Where you put in a rulership of robots. Right. Then you die. Yeah. And then eternity ruled by robots. That's how I tricked you. I can't support this dictatorship. It has flaws. I'm even being honest about lying to you. And it's amazing. I'm the best supreme leader you've ever had. This

is not good. Inherent dishonesty that I cannot get behind. I'm being honest about it. Look the problem with robots is they lack empathy. Okay. They don't have empathy. All right. As we learn in this clip where Alex is talking about how his wife watched some videos of David Eich's rally and the police hitting people with stuff. Sure. We learned that maybe not all humans have empathy either. See that's a normal human behavior because she understands they're coming for her. They're coming for our daughter. They're coming for us. And then the empathy the psychos don't have is a group defense for all of us that we see something happening to somebody else. We understand that can happen to us. But the psychos where it is a badge of honor

and the sociopaths that they don't have that. And I know a lot of that's genetic. Uh oh. What? Empathy is apparently genetic. Oh boy. He says stuff like that a lot. And every single time it's bad. Yeah. That's like saying that once is bad. Yeah. Saying it a bunch of times to the point where it's like really clear that this is a piece of your belief system. Yeah. Really fucked up. I am 100 percent against eugenics. That's evil. He's a noted eugenics disliker. Hate eugenics. Now admittedly there are genetic flaws that we should get rid of in the human population. You know, that's not eugenics. That's just gardening. Dan, what do you garden? And there are like things that are genetic that have to do with like empathy and innate

character. Sure. Gross. So David Ike has a complaint about the alternative media. And this is a complaint that honestly, you know, you could hear this as him calling out Alex. Uh huh. It's not meant to be, but it definitely could be. He's saying that like he's a guy who's like tells people not to wear masks. And so he doesn't wear a mask. Sure. If they want to find him, fine. But he's not going to pay it. Put your money where your maskless mouth is. Exactly. Now conversely, Alex sells masks. Wow. There's that. So I feel like David Ike could be like, Hey, why do you stop fucking trying to make money off the lockdown? You got to make money. Wow. We should not just say, Oh, this is the way we should be. We should show the way

but by not doing it. So I won't do any of the things that when I say people to people, you know, just don't acquiesce with this. I'm not, I'm not acquiescing. And I won't. I absolutely won't. And, you know, while you people in the alternative media who say, Oh, this is terrible. That's terrible. And then they go into a shop and a mask on. I mean, you know, where were you with this? What are you doing? You know, going into a shop with a mask on. It's not hard behind us in this. That's the power of no. Eventually, although the pioneers might have consequences. Long pause. David Skype just broke up. Rats. Oh, no. Oh, boy, it's never going to end. It's just never going to end. Never.

The power of no is the way David Ike is trying to, I'm going to guess it's on shirts, maybe the name of the book in the future. Yeah. But it's the idea of like, no, I won't wear a mask. Yeah. Yeah. Petulance, the power of petulance, the power of oppositional defiance to annoy everyone around you. Yeah. I don't think that cart totally would have sold as many books if he was just like, it's just one letter off. Yeah. See, he missed a real opportunity for a follow up book. Yeah. So David Ike comes back and they wrap up their interview and who cares? I mean, wow, what an impressively dumb interview even by David Ike Alex Jones. Yeah. By their standards, like it's a never going to be good. No, but it was, it was impressively bad.

So Alex comes back from break and he's real excited about his show. You talk about a star studded transmission. David Ike, Paul Joseph Watson. They had a project Veritas, James O'Keefe. All right here floating around in the M4s ocean. Oh boy, that's an angry ocean. It's just ready to pay the price. I didn't listen to advice because I have my policy of truth, which I love so much. You know, I used to lie all the time about little petty stuff. Nothing. What is happening?

Important things, you know, your old friend lie to the wife about how they look or how dinner is a problem. But instead just get out of the open. And they can tell you what's wrong with you. We need to get a thicker skin, ladies and gentlemen. That's the answer to civilization society. What? The answer to civilization and society is to be like, this dinner sucks, lady. Yeah. The answer to civilization is being unnecessarily rude to cruel as possible. Oh, does this stress make me look good? No, fatty. And then they can point out what's wrong with you. Yeah, because I bet you know what? I bet anything. I've listened to him a lot. Alex takes criticism well. Oh, he's late. He loves it. He would love it if everyone was like,

hey, your next to your neck is a really thick. You know, I think a great conversation. Hey, Alex, you look stupid bald. Why'd you shave your head? You dumb dumb. I can't imagine that it would be like what he's suggesting is something that he would be interested in engaging with. Absolutely. People just being like incredibly rude to the point of just pointing out all of your flaws. Like, God damn, just so stupid. Don't you remember the golden rule? Treat others the way that you would kill them if they treated you. All right. So here's some hard truths for you, Alex. What's that? You lie about things all the time. Well, and your star studded show is all losers. No, when you talk about a star studded show, you are talking about

any show other than this one. Yeah. Oh, God, just Paul Joseph Watson, someone who is a real loser. Oh, yeah. James O'Keefe. Oh, someone who is an embarrassing loser. David Ike, someone who you yourself, Alex, think sucks. God, what an embarrassment. This is no longer a punch filled bowl and it's just shit. Yep. So Paul Joseph Watson comes in and he comes out swinging. I would like the foundation, Alex, by citing the survey, which again has received basically no mainstream media attention despite the fact that it's been out now for a good couple of months and where basically the only outlet to report on this from a media perspective, the headline was survey Americans think coronavirus

has killed 30 million people in the US 220 times 225 times higher than the actual figure. So if you want to know why many media outlets have not reported on this survey, but info wars has, it's because the reports reflect misleading information. This is a report that was released by a consulting firm called Kext CNC. And if Paul was curious at all about this, he could find write ups about why the methodology here was flawed. The biggest error that they made was that they used the mean of responses to determine the average as opposed to the median, which would be the appropriate way to reflect data like this. All right. When you take something like the data this survey is meant to report, you use the mean average to determine the results,

your figure is going to be heavily affected by outliers in the data. Whereas if you use the median average, your number will far more accurately reflect the average that the data set represents. I think 10 billion people have died. Dude, you're really going to screw up the study. We're going by the mean. You can't be doing 10 billion. Right. You want to try one billion? Yeah. All right. We'll do that. For instance, in this case, full fact looked at the underlying data for the Kext CNC reports claim that people in Great Britain believe that 7% of the population had died from COVID-19. God damn. In the United States, the number that they had was 9%. So what they found was that over 50% of respondents answered 1% or lower, but the data was skewed by

people who answered with numbers in the range of 20% or higher. Like there was a non unsignificant number of people. People saying a billion. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, in Great Britain, in relative speaking. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know what I mean by saying a billion. There were people who answered 50% or higher. Like well, they're just fucking with you. Probably everyone. I one out of every two people I know has obviously died. Probably. I mean, there's a decent chance that some of these people were fucking around or whatever. But when you use the mean to determine the average, can you have that high of overlires? Yeah. Yeah. It's nonsense. Yeah. Full fact estimates based on the available data from Kext that the median average of responses would be somewhere

close to 1%, which is still higher than the mortality seen in Britain, but it's substantially lower than the 7% that this report claimed, which is then parroted by some dodgy media outlets. Yeah. The reason that this report was ignored by legitimate outlets isn't because they were afraid of it or because there's a cover up. It's because the methodology was flawed and it didn't meet their editorial standards. People like Paul and Alex have no such standards and their audience doesn't check into anything. So they went ahead and reported it as if there were no problems with this survey. And that's what's going on here. They're reporting bad things and then complaining that no one else is reporting it as proof of some kind of cover up of their bad information.

Yeah. The only spidey sense I would believe from any of these people would just be like suddenly all this, they turn and look up into this guy and they're like, somebody did bad work. Where is it? I have to find it. We can use it. Yeah. If it helps somewhere in the world, there's some bad work. So Alex gets into a mood and this got me pretty excited. Video only place you'll get that information to be able to share it. Or you can roll over the chai comms and the Rockefellers and the Rothschilds let them win. I don't think you want to. You know, I think we're going to win together. Aren't we? You can smell it. I can taste it. I can feel it. Maybe we should start the next

segment with that. You belong in the city because that's where it really comes down to it. It's our country. It's our world. He doesn't come back in because I want to sing along and play this song. I want to give a speech. He doesn't. He comes back from that break with James O'Keefe and like legitimately I couldn't care at all about their interview. So you don't have any clips of that. And I felt like really betrayed by Alex whenever he's like because as I was listening because he didn't play the song. Yes. Yeah. But as I was listening to that when he's like, I can see it. I can feel it. I can taste it. I'm like, oh, you're thinking about you belong to the city. You're thinking about that song. Of course. You're getting yourself. It's a good song. He's

pumping himself up. Yeah. I can't wait to come and sing a little bit when he didn't. I was like, well, you had your chance. Yeah. I'm out. Yeah. And that's the end of the third hour anyway. So like the fourth hour, you know, some other host isn't taken over. So I yeah. What a disaster. Also, David Rockefeller's dead. The Rothschilds aren't in charge of the world. Sounds wrong. So what a trash episode. And I want to say this very clearly. Yes, sir. That tech story didn't come up. Oh, am I surprised by that, Dan? Am I surprised? If you are somebody whose only outlet for information is listening to Alex's show, if you get your news from there, you could be forgiven for not knowing that that story broke. Totally. It is not mentioned. There's no deflection from it

that I was able to hear in this time. There's not even like a goddamn New York Times fake news. Nothing. Just nothing. Just pretend it didn't happen. It doesn't exist. Something that I feel like more people should talk about. And I've noticed this pretty regularly is whenever it's something really bad. You know how every news outlet like when the New York Times put out that story. Yeah. In minutes, CNN's got it on there. New York Times just released in minutes. The Guardians got live coverage of, oh, we read this and read this and read this. And in at least a couple hours, Fox News has taken their time, has really developed a good spin on it. Top says fake news. Exactly. They are absolutely not involved in that breaking kind of news story.

It's got to be, it's got to be massaged and that takes time. And they're professionals. They're really good at it. Well, and then with someone like Alex, it seems like this isn't even a story that he's interested in. And instead, he's hyping up this tablet op-ed and James O'Keeffe's attempt to change the narrative to being about, oh, Ilhan Omar and the Somalis are up to something. Yeah. So I think it's, I think that that speaks to like this being a very damaging, dangerous story. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because otherwise, it seems like it would be much easier to spin. And I think, I think Alex might be of the mind, because it's inconceivable that he's unaware of it. Yeah, no, no, absolutely not. At the very least, here's what he's doing. I,

too, have lost a lot of money. I have paid more taxes than Trump. I need to find his lawyers. Like at the very least, that's his response to that prison. Exactly. And the other's Rudy Giuliani. He's great. Yeah, he's great. He's going to get you a solid tax refund. Yeah. So I mean, it's just such a simple story. Like it's so easy to be like, hey, this guy's rich. He didn't pay as much taxes in you than you. Is that fair? Come on. But it's also a story that would be really easy for Alex to spin. But I think that his spin would also ultimately alienate his audience totally super put upon by the Federal Reserve and thinks taxation is theft. Right. It's like, okay, yeah, taxation is theft. Great. So we should be cool with this,

like super billionaire playboy type, not paying taxes. Meanwhile, you get screwed. I can't if you don't pay your taxes over how many people and there's an astonishing number who are like, fuck yeah, Trump, way to get your money away from the government. Like they're so happy that he only how could you not expect that with like, you know, I mean, even in the like debates in 2016, you talked about buying politicians. Yeah, I buy politicians. I don't pay taxes. What am I stupid? Everybody's corrupt. I know because I paid them off. All right. All right. If people applauded that as opposed to being like, oh, you're part of the same problem that I'm supposed to be mad at, you know, you know, there wasn't going to be a situation where it would be like, oh,

this is bad. No, of course not, but it is. I don't know. I'm I'm conflicted on whether I say that this is surprising or unsurprising that there's like absolutely no mention of it in these three hours. Unsurprising, unsurprising to me. What are you going to say about it? I mean, it's he cheated the he cheated United States out of money. It's conspicuous though, and it's absent. He lost because one reason is you have to then say lost a billion dollars billion dollars. Yeah. And if it weren't for a TV show that he should never have been a part of because it was entirely built around his image, which we know now beyond a conceivable reasonable doubt is fake as shit. He still lost money after he got all that more money. He was like,

now I can really lose a lot of money. Yeah. And that that entire thing, too, at the times is developing, you know, like it's still there are other reports yet to come out, even as we're recording this, like it's the scale of like the specifics of what are in those documents that they're covering is is we don't know the scope. I mean, it's what we have already proves that he's violating the emoluments clause from the beginning, which I am blown away, just blown away that our system exists in such a way that we can find out like 100 percent. The president was in violation of the Constitution from day fucking one. And they're still like, well, we have to deal with this three Supreme Court justices forever. Of course, I mean, sure, he broke the

entire Constitution. Yeah, we just got to deal with those three Supreme Court justices forever. That is strange. It's just we can't do no, it's no take backs. He's Dan. We can't do that is strange. I think we need to deal with that. That's probably something to deal with. The other thing that I think is really funny is that the picture that's painted by this Times article is very similar to the one that Alex painted in 2015. Oh, no, that one is very similar, isn't it? Alex said that he's not really rich and it's all facade. It does kind of seem like he kind of knew about that. I bet Stone probably knew about that, too. Yeah. Anyway, we'll be back, I guess, maybe for a debate spectacular. God, I hope not. On Friday. I'm so glad we're recording

now so we have no reason to watch the debates. Yeah, recording this during the debate. Thank God. But hey, before we get out of here, let's take some voicemail. Oh, that'd be great. Hey, tech guys. My name is Toronto and I'm from Georgia. And I about two weeks ago started working a job at a call center, which does political surveys. And I just thought I'd tell you I get a couple of people who actually answer the phone and take the survey. That sounds a lot like Alex Jones listeners. So I want your opinion on a couple of people I've gotten. The first wack caller I got was an old guy who was probably kind of drunk, who I had to hang up on because he was saying slurs. The second guy I got was a dude who answered the call by saying Trump 2020,

took the survey, answered as much as you think, gave his opinion on everything. And at the end of the call told me not to trust anything I heard from either side as long as I was in college. And the third guy was the most interesting. He told me he had all night to take a survey, then proceeded to refuse to answer any of the questions and only would answer undecided or refused. And then when I asked what his political party was, he told me socialists druid. And all three of them, I was just like, if I mention Alex right now, what kind of response am I going to get? And I also wanted to know, socialists druid, term you're familiar with, that seems something very Alexy. I love the show. It's great. Do a great job guys. Dan,

tell Salim, she's perfect. I'll pass that along to Salim and she will have a big head. She's going to have a big head from that one. It's going to be so annoying. I'm going to have to tell you, unfortunately, socialists druids would be considered witches by Alex. So I don't think we're allowed there. Nothing that involves socialists other than the national socialists is going to be something very bad, very bad. Unless it's national socialism. Those people are, those sound like not fun calls to take. Do you ever do telemarketing? No, but I had to do cold calling whenever I first started out in the hearing aid business. But those would probably be like the Glenn Gary leads, right? A little bit, but they were

decidedly not Glenn Gary leads. Like I was still competing to get the Glenn Gary leads. So these were even, these were like brutal phone calls. Yeah, it's like me calling somebody and being like, Hey, how are you doing? You want to spend three grand on something? Come on in. You got here. Come on. I spent a little bit of time doing telemarketing and for, I worked at two telemarketing companies in Missouri and one was a nightmare. I had to sell stamp machines. That's not good. They were supposed to be, everybody you're calling is a small business owner. Sure. And like a stamp machine is a really smart thing to have if you have a need for it. Sure. But if you don't, nobody wants to talk to you. Right. And so like I would be trying to

explain to people what a stamp machine was because this is before like stamps.com and everything. And so I'm like, all right, so it's a machine. You plug it into your phone jack and you could download a postage into it. Then you, and they're like, I have no idea what you're talking about. I don't understand you. I just finished calling into info wars. So that was tough. And I made a sale my first day and like that was something that was crazy. And that was the last sale you've ever made. Yes. No, I almost made another one, but then I torpedoed it myself because the person on the line I could tell was like not really understanding what was going on, but was really into it. You felt like it was a moral to sell them something. You were like, you don't understand

this. So I can't in good conscience sell this. You're a bad salesman. I was, I was bad salesman. Well, yes. And so that I screwed myself over on another commission there and I didn't, I didn't last too long there. It was a terrible, not a surprise, terrible job. And then I worked at another call center that was doing like non sales survey kind of calls. And I was calling for the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee. And that, you know, they always tell you that like all these people are registered Democrats. Sure. And here's call people like, Hey, why don't you go fuck yourself? I love Bush. All right. All right. Sorry. Okay. All right. This guy's not voting for Kerry. It was a brutal time. Very, very much. I have nothing but empathy

for people who work in those so awful, so much abuse goes your way. And yeah, tough, tough times. Telemarketing sales is the worst. The worst. Hey, guys, this is Jordan from Montreal. Bienvenue de Montréal, Canada. Um, great name by the way there, Jordan. I'm just calling to say, you guys are awesome. And I know I try to be my, my priorities and you both make some very good points. But on this karaoke, the no karaoke issue, I have to be on team Jordan here. Uh, and by the way, as a plant daddy, you, you've certainly heard the studies that plants grow better when you sing to them, right? Before I called him to leave this message, I looked it up on Google and the first link did not disagree with me. So in honor of your show being about Alex Jones

and his research methods, I figured that was about as far as I had to look. So I mean, that's it. Just, you know, sing, sing to those plants, Dan. Come on. So grow better if you do. Anyway, you guys are awesome. Keep on doing what you're doing. Thanks. I would sooner, I would sooner sing to these plants than to, than I would do karaoke. I'll do that. Sing. No, because here's why. Look, singing to plants is just the same as talking to plants. Sure. And the reason that that helps is because CO2, you give off whenever you speak. Oh, we're going to do science now. We record, we record a podcast around the plants and we record a song, a podcast that believes in the power of song, Dan. We might as well be singing for like two hours in front of these

plants. It's fine. They don't need song. You don't belong in the city. No, I don't. You don't. I belong in the country. Anyway, what's up, Pat, guys? This is Craig from the Reds. I just had a question. You guys were talking about hydrogen peroxide, which is a 12-can, by the way, and you're talking about huffing it, I think, but it sounded like Dan kept on saying hoofing. I was wondering if that's an accent thing or if he was using a different word or a different slang that I don't know. Also, I did get my vitamin D levels checked and the allergist said, they're the lowest he's ever seen and congratulated me. I thought that was weird. That is weird. That is weird. Um, I would get a new doctor. I was talking about putting hydrogen peroxide on the foot of a mule

and then letting it kick you. That's what I'm talking about. That's what you do. That's what Dr. Mercolo was suggesting people do. No, I don't know. I guess I've never really known what the term is. Honestly, I only used it the way you did because I thought it was some sort of slang from Missouri. It's huffing. Right. Yeah. You know, you have paint. You have paint thinner, like that kind of thing. Right. I thought you had some sort of Missouri slang and you were just pronouncing that way. So I was like, yeah, I'll go win in Rome. I'll go along with it. Maybe it is. Maybe I don't know. I've always called it like huffing. It's the only. Have you only read it before? Have you never huffed anything? No. Never huffed gasoline? Huh. That's an interesting question. I would be

interested. When you were at the car wash, you huffed something. No, I mean, I probably was exposed to some fumes. That's true. I didn't take any drugs intentionally at the car wash when I worked there for that period of time. No, I mean, I think I've been here. I've done some inhalants at some point in my life, but like some whippets. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's some like amyl nitrate. Sure. Yeah. I put like a way back. I mean, there was a period of time where it was like anything a couple of years ago. I'm much longer back. Okay. But no, I remember I had a friend who got into ether a little bit and that seemed scary. That seemed really scary. That's such an intimidating thing. I got a friend who got into ether and you're like,

okay, shake your hands. Good night. Yeah. I'm gonna get out of here. So no, I don't know, huff, huff, who cares? Yeah. Yo, Pat guys, what's up? It's Aaron from Missouri calling in. Just wanted to say I'm a huge fan of your show been listening for about a year and a half now. After I started searching out some sources on Alex Jones insanity, while I was working for a guy doing tile out in Colorado, who loved Alex Jones, thought he was a genius. And because of that, I might have some insight on the recent technical difficulties. So according to him, Alex has been looking pretty heavily for some interns to come in, you know, younger people in college and just out of college to come in and, you know, cut their teeth on the production

floor of info wars. He of course suggested that I do this. And he said, I think your values are really in line with Alex Jones. And this is despite me arguing with him, just about every chance I could get about old AJ. So yeah, that might have something to do with the technical difficulties. I think he's got a bunch of like low or unpaid, you know, team labor going on over there. So just a thought. Also shout out to my buddy Dylan. I love you. Thanks for being my best bud and sharing a love of knowledge fight. All right. Thanks, Dan. Thanks, Jordan. Bye. That makes sense. That yeah, yeah, I would have, I would have like that was kind of what I thought was going on. Yeah, there's no way somebody who's been in the business for 10 years is going to be

like, well, info wars is where I'm going to finally retire. Yeah. And no way that someone with a lot of experience would be like, well, Skype just fucks up sometimes. I'm a professional and what are you going to do? Somebody in the booth looking at Alex just being like, I'm just shrugging. Yeah, I guess we can't really take that as gospel since it's just someone calling in and saying that it would make sense. No, I vibe with that being true. You know what else though, but checks out what a guy who is contracting laying tile telling you about Alex that does check out in my history that checks out very clearly guy who runs a car wash telling you about Alex. Yes, all of these. I'm a general contractor with a crew of 15 year olds. Yeah, you're going

to say some Alex Jones shit. Probably. Yeah. Hey, guys, this is Gator from Oklahoma City. And I love your show and I love you, Dan and Jordan. I've been trying to introduce some of my comrades to this show to really investigate the right wing grip. They don't really give a fuck though, which is a shame. But I mostly called because I am going to shamelessly plug. So in Oklahoma City, there's an organization called the Oklahoma Street Medics, which I am in charge. And we do protest support and Jordan has seemed to give a lot of support for the protest. And so please plug us or don't. I'll be sad if you don't. But whatever. Anyway, that's Oklahoma Street Medics. Find us on Facebook and all that.

Uh, thanks so much, you guys. I love the show. Keep doing the good work. Hey, bye, Jordan. That person's name was Gator. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Do you know it could be Ruth Gator Binsburg? No, get out of here. Is it Ruth Gator? Could be Ruth Gator. Damn it. I knew she was going to call in. Oh, yeah. Hey, in terms of this stuff, it's really always very difficult for me because with specific giving, giving specifics on like where people should donate always rings false with me because there's a lot of things that deserve attention far more than I would ever be able to enumerate. Right. And also there's so many things that are localized that are very difficult to find. And we have people who are in the foreign countries and all around the country

who listen to our show and the priorities for everybody in their own communities and in their areas is very difficult for me to think I have any real understanding of. Sure. So whenever we say like donate to local charity in your area, the reason that I don't get more specific about it is because for you, the person listening, it might be something that I could have no idea about. Sure. And I don't want to take our audience and monetize it towards even a good cause. Sure, sure, sure, sure. Like if I believe in let's say the Chicago food dispensary or depository, like that's something that I will donate to. I don't want all of our listeners to donate to them. Sure. At the expense of things in your area. Of course. Of course. But that said,

I'm also not averse to people like Gator calling in and promoting something that's important to them. Like it's a balance and it's something that's incredibly difficult to like to know what to do with. Sure, sure. I try and focus on like personally my two things are like especially right now, food and housing. So I try and look out organizations in Chicago and really research the shit because a lot of them, not a lot of them, but there's some places that you can give money to that are fucking bullshit. So do some research on that. But as far as protests and stuff go, medics are huge. Yeah, definitely. Medics are huge and I would absolutely strongly recommend people medics and citizen journalists type absolutely are very important to support as best

you can 100%. And the only reason that I don't get too specific about stuff is because I honestly also think that part of being involved and engaged is the process of finding a thing and being able to tell whether it's legitimate 100%. It's very difficult, but also it's part of engagement. And for me to spoon feed that to you would be kind of disrespectful on my part, because then you're just taking my word for what lines up with your priorities and your position. So yeah, don't just give money, like engage with what you're giving money to. I think it's the best way to be a part of it. Yeah, I think that that's the best way for it to be sincere, it to be gratifying and for you to be comfortable knowing that what you're doing is making a

difference in the way that you want it to. Totally. And balancing the responsibility of I know a lot of people are listening and I can hopefully encourage them to donate to charitable causes. We want you to do good, of course. And also knowing that I could steer people towards something irresponsibly. Sure. It's a hard line to walk and the way that I think I can be best on the right side of it is just to say, do look into stuff and donate to people in need in your area. It's the best I can do. I can give you all of my pet charities and causes and all that stuff, but you don't have my dog. Don't get my pet charities and causes. Get your own pet charities and causes. Yeah, it's a hard line to know exactly where it is.

And maybe we could do a little better. Yeah. But if you can give gifts. Yeah. Yeah. And I will also say that like I think I already have, if people want to call in and plug something in particular, I am more than fine with that. Not Kmart though. Not Kmart. Not Kmart. If Kmart tricked us, oh boy. Oh no. Uh-oh. So, Jordan, we'll be back on Friday, but until then, we have a website. We do have a website. It's Knowledgefight.com. Yep. We're also on Twitter. We are on Twitter. It's that KnowledgeHunterScoreFight and I go to bed Jordan. We're also on Facebook. We are on Facebook. If you could, please find a local charity or bail fund in your area. And if you're in Oklahoma City, you know where to go. Yeah. You can also call in. I don't cite the number

enough. So, if you want to call in and leave a message, you can. It's at 773TATGuys. That is the number. Indeed. We'll be back, Jordan, but until then, I'm Neo. I'm Leo. I'm DZXClark. I'm Daryl Rundis. I'm humanity. Wake up. Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. Hello, Alex. I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you.