Knowledge Fight - #511: The 12/12 Rallies

Episode Date: December 14, 2020

Today, Dan and Jordan take a look at a couple of rallies that took place in DC over the weekend. Alex Jones managed to get on stage at one of them, but what were these rallies really like? Unfortunate...ly, Dan watched them to find out.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys knowledge everybody welcome back knowledge fight I'm Dan I'm Jordan a couple dudes like sit around to novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones indeed we are Dan Jordan Jordan quick question for you what's up what's your bright spot today my bright spot today is cereals serious okay I have got the old radio cereals like the shadow like the wish that was what I was saying now I'm talking about breakfasts oh I have like I mentioned to you that I have been exploring the world of ordering groceries indeed for the sake of safety
Starting point is 00:01:29 covid and one of the things that has led me to do is more browsing than maybe I'm used to at a grocery store sure sure I kind of get in and get out at a grocery store generally I kind of know what I'm looking for and I don't eat that many different foods wearing blinders at the grocery store go to the frozen pizza section kachunk kachunk and go home yeah yes browsing through I've noticed that there are a number of cereals now that really excite me but also offend me okay all right all right these are the cereals where everybody's playing each other's game okay everyone is in each other's lanes and I don't know what you
Starting point is 00:02:09 mean like like how like Kellogg's Rice Krispies will suddenly have like a peanut butter ball version yeah yeah and you're like no no that's Reese's puffs yeah you say the fuck out of here Rice Krispies or they have like fruit loops with marshmallow yeah and you're wrong you're working lucky and it's weird because like when I was a kid I probably would have loved this oh I've gone apeshit yeah but now now is a 36 year old man I'm looking at this I'm like gotta gotta try it but I don't want to know it's it's it's the worst so everybody's fighting on a corner war it's the drug war all over again one thing I was thinking about
Starting point is 00:02:46 doing but I'm not sure I'm gonna be able to pull it off because I don't know if I'll actually be able to get all of them and I don't know how many of these hybrids there are but it seems like there's a bunch okay I was thinking about trying to get a bunch and seeing who steals other people's gimmicks best okay like all right it does frosted flakes is that improved with marshmallow I don't know how it would work and I'll tell you the chocolate frosted flakes I tried those yeah absolutely disgusting okay they're delicious for the first three bites and then you're like I'm not four years old anymore so this much sugar is
Starting point is 00:03:20 gonna kill me yeah I'm gonna go with a no I think there's probably a lot of that yeah and what I would find yeah I did get to the the lucky charms uh-huh but with like the the regular pieces that aren't marshmallow sure sure are like honey oh were those good no I do like I do like how many people are trying new stuff whatever it's like guys I have been with lucky charms for four it's like I've been smoking new ports since I was nine years old and you guys are gonna come up with some bullshit like the camel crush the first time the camel crush happened I'm like this is an affront against God how dare you combine these
Starting point is 00:04:04 two flavors it's wrong but then they're great yeah so I know you should sort about you my bright spot Dan is the avalanches release a new album the avalanches release two albums in one decade Dan that's insane below in your mind isn't it yeah I was like wow 15 years between I left you and whatever they came out with yeah a wildflower yeah wow yeah and then just now we will always love you released Friday absolutely fantastic that's cool I don't want to be a hater but I didn't really like their second album as much as I liked since I left you when I used to smoke a lot of weed when I was younger
Starting point is 00:04:45 I mean since I left you was kind of genre busting in that they really took sampling too far yeah they were like hey what if no I know you like the amen break and we'll strengthen it what if instead we took 48 milliseconds and combined it with 48 milliseconds of 10 million other songs yeah and like I was just the right age and like I said smoking tons of weed and frontier psychiatrist like blew my mind blew everybody's mind how did you get that parrot yeah yeah yeah music video bizarre yeah yeah totally I don't know how any other album they made could not kind of be a let down it is based on the
Starting point is 00:05:22 experience of that sure sure but I'll try and have an open mind for this other you know in 2001 you thought they were mind-melting geniuses who were going to change music forever and then their next album was a really good album if you were good producers but that's not you know I John robusting era defining stuff I think the problem is the decade in between like if you put out a sophomore album that's just serviceable or just good sure the next year sure yeah it's more understandable than like waiting for Chinese democracy right just being yeah that is fair yeah that's fair it's this one's really good you can't live up
Starting point is 00:06:03 to that hype it's it's tough this one's great they got a bunch of really good guests on it they do a lot of like classic trip hop stuff it almost sounds a little port is heady it's somebody get tricky to do a verse then they go they go full disco they got some disco and then they got some classic avalanches walking songs which is what the avalanches do best I'll check it out so Jordan today we get an interesting episode to go over we're gonna be talking about the weekend no the band the band he's a guy genre busting okay back in 2000 and what seven whenever his first EP is dropped anyways I'm not even gonna
Starting point is 00:06:37 know about the weekend I know quite a bit we're gonna be talking about the day that was 12 12 2020 the the day out on DC's Alex didn't move to DC no I didn't think so but he did go to DC I assumed he would go and so today we're gonna be taking a look at some of the events on the the nation's capital oh boy but first before we get to that let's take a moment Jordan to say thank you to some folks who have signed up in our sporting the show that's a great idea so first Bambuza thank you so much for an hour policy walk I'm a policy one thanks Bambuza I go next Jim F thank you so much your now policy walk I'm a policy
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Starting point is 00:07:49 will owe thank you so much you're now a policy one I'm a policy one thanks well there you next Rebecca oh thank you so much no relation okay thank you your policy one I'm a policy one thanks Rebecca then finally like I say thank you to a couple people donated on elevated level we appreciate that very much so Andy K thank you so much you are now a technocrat and and it goes on thank you so much you are now a technocrat I'm a policy wonk crikey mate that's fantastic have yourself a brew how's your 401k doing bro we got to go full tilt buggy on this Watson alright let's just get down to business we ain't making that money
Starting point is 00:08:23 off that heroin why you pimp so good my neck is freakishly large I declare info war on you thank you so much Andy and thank you so much and it goes on yes thank you very much to the both of you if you're out there listening you're thinking hey I enjoy the show like support these gents do you can do that by going to our website knowledge right now clicking the button to support the show or or what you could do is you could go to a record store go back into the back part of the record store start searching through all your favorite bands maybe some disco bands you talk about in the craze esoteric stuff that other
Starting point is 00:08:51 people haven't seen find some generosity in there take little bits of the best generosity from each one of those little crates over there combine it together to make something amazingly generous and take it to your local bail fund or charity big and in the great yep great yeah thank you yeah so Jordan yes sir today what about it we are gonna be talking about the rallies that happened in DC yeah they went great one thing that's really difficult for me is I'm not going to be addressing really the street violence sure and I think that that is a failing of our show to an extent and that is because I don't have
Starting point is 00:09:29 enough time to get into it I'm not on our show I mean in terms of like cover it with the seriousness and the the focus that I think the topic deserves sure we're a silly show about Alex Jones yes I don't want to give short shrift to that but at the same time it falls slightly outside of what I have the time to cover as we've seen with Rogan half-assing it is sometimes worse than doing anything at all yes but I did not want people to think that I turn a blind eye to that kind of thing or or tacitly accept such such so Jordan on Saturday there were multiple rallies that were happening in DC surrounding the idea
Starting point is 00:10:12 that this election had been stolen stop that steal you know what I'm saying sure they were both about the same thing had the same theme and even featured some overlapping speakers it was super confusing but I think I know what was up one of the rallies was being held by the women for America first the group that formed out of the Tea Party which is trying to use these protests and some of this unrest to secure more power for the Republican Party while simultaneously trying to make the Republican Party as weird as possible like they did with the Tea Party yes correct the other rally was called the
Starting point is 00:10:42 Jericho March which made no secret about just being an overtly Christian extremist rally with some really outrageous planned speakers well if I remember my story of Jericho well I believe those people were the nice ones they decided to end the siege with by by negotiating coming to a fair solution for both parties right sure yeah they that Jericho March and at Ali Alexander in the mix friend from Info Wars great they also had the Cowboys for Trump oh boy and noted asshole slash Congress member Paul Gosar oh great it's really hard for me to tell what exactly was going on I kind of don't
Starting point is 00:11:21 think that these two were opposing rallies per se your instinct would be to think that the Jericho March was for the religious zealots whereas the women for America first would be the more restrained one but honestly the rallies were almost identical yeah they're both I watched both of them yeah they're the same people yeah not all the same people but it's the same vibe yeah yeah that's what I mean yeah both featured Mike Flynn giving the same speech both had appearances from and got funding from the my pillow guy hey great and both were overwhelmingly religious yeah watching these rallies one thing that's
Starting point is 00:11:54 abundantly clear to me and that's something that I think is very important for us to bring up is we're not dealing with politics here at all this is not politics yes this is a cult with some interest in politics as a means to gaining and retaining power and I don't really know how to talk about that without like I don't know I don't know how I don't know how to engage with the ideas of a cult I mean I think the best way to engage with the ideas of cult is on a grand scale and what we should do to stimulate the economy is train 50% of the country in cult deprogramming to help them with the other 50% that's a new
Starting point is 00:12:32 deal I think that's a good way to do it it's like the works progress administration yeah it's just it's really difficult because it comes off or it can be like misconstrued as attacking religion to attack this kind of thing that's going on and I don't have any interest in attacking religion or Christianity I have a problem with what this is yeah and that's tough because when we hear a person say that Bill Gates said X Y or Z in an interview it's really easy to go find that interview and discuss what's going on when we hear that same person say that God has chosen Donald Trump to be president it's
Starting point is 00:13:06 not too difficult to say they're a bit of a fanatic and they're probably unwell the difficulty comes when there are two multi-hour rallies attended by thousands of people where the speakers repeatedly and incessantly insist that God has chosen Trump to be president and everyone cheers mm-hmm that's tough yeah that is really fucked up yeah we know where Alex is at we know where his head is we know what he's up to and so I thought maybe a good use of our time today would be to look at these rallies themselves and try and assess where we're at with all this and see if it's something that we can learn to talk about a
Starting point is 00:13:41 little bit better and see if there's anybody who pops up who is a particularly good crazy oh good maybe there'll be somebody who's like if this is I don't think Hamamoto is coming by no no I don't think I don't think how Momoto got his invite for this Darrell is I think we can let that one go yeah he's still yelling at Linda Katie out at UC Davis okay um no but I figure like hey you've got one I think each rally was at least four hours long Jesus you got a lot of speakers yeah maybe somebody is gonna be like alright you got something okay you got a weirdness I'm gonna be interested in looking into alright so maybe that's
Starting point is 00:14:22 worth our time so we're gonna start here Jordan with the Jericho March this was hosted by Eric Metaxas I'm kind of aware of who this guy is he's like a Christian writer and a radio host but I really don't know a ton about him and based on his work emceeing this event that will probably be the way it stays because this dude is straight up boring as hell come on man a whole lot of awful stage pattern type material and then just calls to praise the Lord oh boy okay yeah so we're starting with the one that's more explicitly religious and you get that right from the show we're gonna get some ace freely band talk and then
Starting point is 00:15:01 we're gonna smooth into the first of all it's Paul Stanley whatever how dare you whatever yes Eric Metaxas does have some things he needs to get off his chest there we go he comes in he's like hey what's up DC I heard y'all like the taste of alcohol all right let's overthrow democracy forever all right let's move on there's drinking screw drivers cold tears all right no it doesn't start with that no okay very religious we are here because we love the God of the Bible we are here because we believe he is the God of history we're here because we know that he is the God who does real miracles when his
Starting point is 00:15:52 remnant cries out to him in humility and love and says Abba father we need you Abba father we are here today to cry out to the God of heaven to ask him to have mercy on the greatest nation in the history of the world so it's pretty it's pretty overtly religious yeah that one's a little bit on the nose like maybe 15 seconds into the rally good really we got the tone set really we were worshiping the God of history all right all right thanks yeah so this rally itself this Jericho March was the product apparently mm-hmm of two people who had a vision and Eric Metaxas is going to discuss that here oh boy now the man
Starting point is 00:16:42 and the woman who didn't know each other until a little while ago Rob weaver and arena grosso okay each of them independently in case you didn't know the story each of them had an insane vision from God how would we know the weaver told me this story a few nights ago he says he didn't normally doesn't normally get visions like this and the Lord woke him up it's a dramatic story and he had this insane open vision of people gathered blowing shofars there were nuns there when he described it to me exactly the bad news is it looked nothing like this and you guys need to leave right now I was kidding that was a
Starting point is 00:17:31 joke he had a vision from God when God gives you a vision you don't need to know anything else you just praise him enough to show you what he is doing I have vision questions too we'll learn more about this vision later but the thing that I think is interesting is like that is a terrible joke I would have to go with yes that is a terrible joke but like at the same time that's what he's doing and I think actually if I were the promoter or the booker of this he's a perfect no he's doing a great job because what he's doing yeah yeah for where he's at slightly charismatic perfect it's not offensive but you can
Starting point is 00:18:11 still tell it's an attempt at humor yep he's personable to the audience that's the target of this rally yeah I but it's also trash it's yeah but it's unmemorably a bad joke where you're like joke registered you know what I'm not going to hold it against you we're just going to move on it does feel like somebody who's there for a check yeah I've done those gigs before yeah yeah it's almost a cut and paste kind of host joke and I think you see a lot of that if you do enough stand-up yeah you can kind of get that vibe from him but at the same time I kind of prefer that to someone who's maybe taken too big a
Starting point is 00:18:48 swing yeah sometimes that goes really bad I would I would give a lot of money to see this guy trying to crowd work at one of these rallies oh that would be brutal so we got these two people they had a vision one is Rob Weaver he is an evangelical Christian great and then aria our arena grosu who is a Catholic and so the two of them both had a vision and the yeah well we'll meet them a little bit later but that's why this is happening all right so this is happening because the evangelical Christians and the Catholics have finally both received the independent message from God the same that they were looking for the
Starting point is 00:19:25 order to combine and put aside their previous doctrinal differences in order to take back Trump's presidency right your whole fucking religion boils down to Trump you pathetic shit bags that's the part that I really have trouble with yeah it's like I have nothing against religion I have nothing against Christianity I have a real problem with the way in which there be the Christianity and Trump are being melded yeah I mean we're talking about this religion I'm not going to shit on Christianity as a as like quote unquote concept or religion as a whole but I will say that it is eminently reasonable
Starting point is 00:20:05 to shit on your religion if you think that your ultimate battle of good and evil involves Donald fucking Trump that is tough to wrestle with yeah your religion is so tiny and weak and meaningless if that's if that's what it is yeah if it relies on Donald Trump yeah and when he hear things like this and it's just like what we are what God is doing in the United States today by his grace and today we're gonna see heaven move heaven is going to move thank you Jesus thank you Jesus before I introduce my friend Mike Lindell who's gonna tell you to use the discount code Eric before introduce Mike Lindell I'd
Starting point is 00:21:00 like to lead you in the Pledge of Allegiance so like he is talking about God is gonna make and then immediately he's gonna introduce the my pillow guy and he gives a promo code God does not give promo codes Mike Lindell does yeah I get that but if you're at a religious rally and somebody gives you a promo code then leave one of the problems that I find with both of these rallies is they are very clearly funded by my pillow okay it's spawn con is this spawn con is that what we're doing I think you're at your religious rally there's sponsored content okay yes I'm a bit worried that that is the case all right
Starting point is 00:21:41 and that means that he gets to speak well he gets a walk-on roll by your way in yeah so my pillow guy nothing says Jesus more than buying five minutes a stage so right before this event you know there had been that Supreme Court had thrown out the case sure in Pennsylvania yeah they screamed it was too legally good yes and the my pillow guy has some news about this that he received first of all he says that Sidney Powell called him at two in the morning great to give him some news good why are you why is she calling you a two in the morning he's the my pillow guy dad he's the he's the coordinate he's
Starting point is 00:22:19 the front coordinator I got problems with this story hello everyone I'm gonna I'm gonna start off by bringing you some hope last night about two in the morning I got a text from Sidney Paul's team and the Texas lawsuits had nothing to do with what she's been working hard on and she filed she filed her lawsuits with with the Supreme Court for Georgia Wisconsin Michigan and Arizona and everything that I've been telling you for three weeks now is true I have seen it the fraud is 100% and Donald Trump will be our president for four more years by a pillow wow wow yeah so sorry I said Pennsylvania I met that Texas yeah I
Starting point is 00:23:15 got all these these these sad attempts to return the election mixed up but yeah so he I I like the idea that Sidney Powell texted him and it was like hey that had nothing to do with don't worry about me don't worry about me I'm on crazy adventure number four over here this looks like a big setback but that was not our deal hold on I'm not even there watch out I gotta watch this guy rip a heart out of another dude I'm in the devil I like that and it's it does set the tone kind of for the event and that is everybody is joyous yeah turns out that there was this big setback where Texas and you know like all these
Starting point is 00:23:56 people had signed on all these Republican members of the House had signed on with this and then it didn't work it seemed like hey this is you know that was kind of almost like the Ron Paul winning the Iowa caucus yeah of of of this cycle there's that moment of hope and then it's gone but no my pillow guy says Sidney Powell texted him at two in the morning and said hey be cool so wild yeah so I would I would buy this making sense if I knew that all of the rich Republicans and business owners and all that stuff we're all like buying a lot of property in a different country right now and all of them slowly moving all
Starting point is 00:24:33 their stuff away so I get all this like edging with the lawsuits is them buying time to is to make good their escape before they pull the trigger and everybody explodes you know but otherwise it this doesn't make any sense what are you doing my pillow you're wasting a lot of money yeah he must be making a lot too though he must be yeah but they're not they don't make any sense they're all magic yeah I don't know but also when you consider I mean not you know this guy the my pillow guy is out there man yeah I can see that he's the kind of person basically you listen to talk for like two minutes and you're
Starting point is 00:25:10 like oh yeah I get why you'd make bad business decisions yeah that's fair here he discusses in a rambling way his story of having a prophetic dream about how he was gonna make everybody got dreams all of a sudden everyone I'm sick of so he has a dream about how he's gonna meet Trump and then he he does and look I and also I want to say really quick he talks a bunch about how he's a recovering crack addict cool and I'm not beaten up on that great not making fun of that at all fine is just sort of background dressing to this story that's important so I got up to 2015 and I had a dream I get these dreams these prophetic
Starting point is 00:25:47 dreams and one of them was that I would meet Donald Trump in a room and I'm going why would I why would I be meeting with Donald Trump is rude or whatever I'm just some some guy from Minnesota right well and tooth in the summer divine appointments kept happened to me I was invited to the National Prayer Breakfast when Ben Carson was still running for president what happened to him randomly picked out of 12 people to pray with him in a room and I wasn't even saved yet I'm going I don't know how to pray I don't know you know I was all nervous but that was set up by God you know and and then there are these things kept
Starting point is 00:26:24 happening to the summer of 2016 and I'm on a plane to to California and and I'm I'm sitting in the bullcat and I opened this magazine it was about Donald Trump and I said you know of course it was August or the late July of 2016 and I said my favorite part of the story is when I struggled to remember the day be part of this whatever is going on in our country I need to know right now and at that moment in time my phone dinged and it was an email Mike we this is Donald Trump will you meet me in New York City at Trump Tower and you I go God you know I don't believe that story I don't believe a word of that bullshit not for
Starting point is 00:27:05 one second yeah Jesus Christ yeah I'm not buying it no but it's fun and the crowd will like it yeah but I just this story is is is I just was listening to something like hey man is this event Jesse Ventura character it kind of feels fucking this is Minnesota stuff you know here's that's that's what I'm saying these dudes sound like Minnesota yeah it must be if they sound almost exactly the same so many vocal similarities yeah that's that's fair that's fair that's fair I don't know I we need to move the pressure now up back on to religious people you know it used to be that when you were shitting on religion that was
Starting point is 00:27:48 like that was often discriminatory or being mean now we got to push the responsibility back on there religious people if you don't want to be made fun of don't listen to the my pillow guy that's on you now but the problem is he has so much money yeah see that's still on you all religion jokes are fine they are non-discriminatory until the majority of religious people are like let's not do my pillow guy I don't agree I don't agree with that axiom I don't believe I don't agree with that but that the issue comes down to like religion is fine but this isn't about religion this is about wanting a Christian nation and
Starting point is 00:28:26 my pillow guy is pretty clear about that this has been a spiritual battle in our country for decades this is a spiritual battle and we are in the we're gonna this is the start of the greatest revival in history for one nation under God and that God is Jesus amen God bless you all Jesus wouldn't even say this and we're gonna look back and we're gonna say they're all had to happen in the name of Jesus God bless you wow yeah I love you Mikey you know you want to know a miracle of God he went 60 seconds short haha good joke whoa boy um that guy is killing it yeah I mean almost everything that Mike is saying my pillow guy is
Starting point is 00:29:12 saying is like okay yeah I mean if that was just at a like a church revival or something like that I don't sure I have any issue with it like there's an awakening coming and you know like God is you know so important in our life the problem is this is a political rally you know I know it's of a religious character but like the reason you're having this rally is because Trump lost in election yeah you're not having this because of like no no he had a prophetic dream it's the combination of the two that's just fucking it's it's terrifying yeah I think I think probably one of the reasons that I would have a easier time
Starting point is 00:29:47 like suggesting that this was I suppose non-religious is just because I know too much about how Christianity is supposed to work according to that book they they say they like a lot I've read a little bit of it yeah I know too much about it and all of this stuff is like we're Christians and we want a Christian nation and I'm like have you motherfuckers even opened it and also here's a promo code for my pillow exactly exactly yeah and the thing that makes me even more scared really when I think about it is that you know there's this combination of this stuff this Christian nationalism and then it's also intersecting with this
Starting point is 00:30:28 deification admiration and and and just love of not only Trump but also general Flynn yeah who is somebody who is a hero the QAnon folk and has been QE himself and here Eric Metaxas teases Flynn's appearance in a little bit we have general Michael Flynn is coming oh oh then you've heard of him oh I'm so impressed very good you guys that's awesome he is such a hero he has such hell he's a patriot he believes in the Lord of the Bible all right a lot of the people the Senate of this government administration love Jesus don't you find that ironic I don't know what he's even saying I don't know what that's supposed
Starting point is 00:31:22 to mean at all no but that's the you you asked for like why is a hero and then Metaxas told you because he believes in the God of the Bible I really don't feel like that's enough but that's what I mean that's what they're saying I think another problem I have is that they are cheering for thoroughly fictitious people Flynn the imaginary Flynn yeah the imaginary Flynn is who they are cheering for Michael Flynn has no resemblance to that character whatsoever yeah he's a shitbag from way before the fan in his history they would if I were him I would lean into the fan fiction to way more than way more the fan fiction
Starting point is 00:31:53 yeah yeah your actual track record is fucking evil mm-hmm yeah so now Metaxas brings out Rob Weaver and arena grosso who are the the evangelical and the Catholic dreamers yes and Rob I would say his description of this vision that he had is a little bit lackluster this event will be going on for the next few hours lots of speakers more music but I want to tell you about how it started on November 5th I was really troubled by the election and what I knew was wrong I think everybody in this country knows that something is wrong and I get an amen anyone so I just called out to God and I literally felt something pushing in my
Starting point is 00:32:38 side in the morning quite frankly I thought it was a remote but it wasn't you know I've something was pushing I heard a voice that said it's not over so can I hear it's not over because God said it's not over and the when and the next part of the vision I sat down and I literally saw this and I saw marches going around the capital I saw marches going around all six of the swing states that are also going on today so hello if you guys can hear us there so every one of them let's let's give him a shout so this was birthed from a vision or a miracle that's not much of a vision wow yeah so does that mean that God was
Starting point is 00:33:26 poking him it's well does that mean that for like say the women's March was that inspired by God must have been they or did the devil send that dream devil probably are they say our God and the devil only sending competing dreams for rallies and devils clearly a better organizer it does because the turnouts have been much larger huge to the point where these Moga folk will just post pictures of their marches yeah it does seem strange yeah hmm they should they should get in contact with the devil he knows it's up yeah he has a good street team yeah so the Robin arena are are just there and you know they had their
Starting point is 00:34:05 vision hooray good for them I had a dream of people walking around DC which could never have been given to me from any other source other than God and he got poked so that's true then they have a prayer there's a lot of praying on this that I will a lot of people through both of these rallies everybody wants to get up there and do the Lord's got to do a good prayer you know like how in the book it said make sure that you pray loudly and performatively for others and not for God it reminds me of like okay so like in early times in wrestling you didn't want in your first match someone to go through a table sure let's
Starting point is 00:34:44 say because then if you want to do that in they the headliner I feel like is not respecting that in terms of the Lord's Prayer like everyone's doing yeah but everyone wants to can you I don't know it's just it feels less save your Lord's Prayer for the end of the show right or or Flynn I mean he's clearly the headliner yeah it's his to do or not do right I don't know anyway they pray and we get a prayer that Steve Pachennik would be very proud of and then the stage gets interrupted father I pray a special blessing on Melania Trump one of the best first ladies we've ever had in history and I'm so tired of
Starting point is 00:35:26 people coming against her father so go on why I pray and her children and why children in Jesus mighty name thank you Lord thank you guys actually we want to introduce you Ali Alexander from stop the seal so Ali had sort of walked out on stage prayer see the devil's a way better organize it so Ali walks out along with Ed Martin of the Phyllis Schlafly Eagle for a great and they are apparently partnered with the the Jericho March and that's kind of interesting because Ali starts talking about like you know hey we got we got a lot of fun things coming up we got general Flynn he says something that
Starting point is 00:36:11 really struck my ears today is going to be historic we have general Flynn we'll have the president in the sky or on the road and we got a couple other characters in a spirit of unification thank y'all got a couple other characters in the spirit of unification that's very strange also the presidents in the sky they have they have been promoting that the truck is gonna fly over in marine one great and I think he does show up like during Flynn speech maybe I don't know there was a helicopter flying over at some point straight up we're doing straight up fascist Nazi imagery I honestly don't know was even in it no I
Starting point is 00:36:50 doubt he was why would you you wouldn't need to be yeah they'll just see the helicopter and be like yeah the president's in there why would you actually go symbol of president gonna wave out the helicopter window get the fuck out of here so Ed Martin of the Eagle Forum yeah these Schleifley Eagles yes yeah he wanted Schleifleys while he's up on stage he's a magnanimous type oh of course and he wants to give it up to the good media oh hey guys we're gonna we're gonna right now I'd ask you to join me in prayer if you don't mind before we do I want to say thank you to the epic times for helping stream so much of this
Starting point is 00:37:24 live Josh and an RSBN bar the brothers at RSBN brothers and sisters thank you for what you do to make it so people yeah and victory to victory TV and one American news I may go down the list right and I just want to say when we gathered at the Capitol the other day around the world in Japan and China and Taiwan around the world they're looking at America because we're a beacon on the hill and we can't let the light go out there cannot be the light going out for the world and for each other let's pray one name wow conspicuous in its absence on that list especially considering this dude standing right next to Ali
Starting point is 00:38:04 Alexander who's constantly on it all these great media outlets really doing everything for it I just I can't get to them all I'm gonna name as many as I can epic is great what America do look I'm running out of time I can't so look they may not plug in for wars but they are willing to let Alex give a little speech okay and so at this point the Mission Impossible theme plays oh no here comes folks in the spirit of unity I'd like to bring out my new friend Alex Jones is it I think his name is Alex Jones I can't believe that many people cheer for him you know
Starting point is 00:39:03 see this makes sense though it does like as a wrestling a wrestling show this is what you want you bring you bring Alex down here to be like yeah that's what you want and that's why people are cheering yeah he's a star he's a show yeah yeah you want to hear Rob and arena grosu talk about their lackluster dream I had a dream that people would be here how excited are you gonna get for the my pillow guy telling a long story about his dream I think it was I think it was December 20th 19 no this was November 11th no this was December 20th at 450 be up Eric Matex this is a good host or whatever to keep a thing moving along
Starting point is 00:39:43 but he's not going to get you riled up no Alex fucking Jones is that's what he's gonna do yeah that's what he's there for yeah exactly now it's embarrassing very your name your rally is now the one that allowed Alex to speak at it so congratulations for that yep but Alex does what Alex does and that is more or less just yell his ass off yeah about nonsense like what they want applause line exactly a pause line applause line and Jesus Christ is king not David Rockefeller not Bill Gates not Barack Obama not Joe Biden but Jesus Christ is king
Starting point is 00:40:29 and God gave us the enemy and draw out the enemy so as dark as some of these days are understand this is the beginning of the great revival before the anti-Christ comes to quick points not how it works in the Bible to quick points I thought Obama was the anti-Christ yeah Alex and second point I believe on our last episode he was calling Marilyn Monroe a cum dump yes he was doing so yeah yeah there's a little bit going on what are we doing I like the I like the idea of Jesus standing next to Alex Jones give out of that hey but I'm the I'm about peace I was gonna feed all these people okay
Starting point is 00:41:12 well let's just get past that part then let's just get to the book of revelations you realize there isn't a revival before hey Jesus no do you understand no I'm even gonna blow your mind a little bit more Jesus Jesus no one's gonna clap for that week shit you know that the anti-Christ convinces almost all Christians to believe in him over we got a blowout sale it's actually almost like so they would focus on like a single person instead of the Lord and really be like this person is the true leader and we're gonna give all of our allegiances to him without thinking about it and then because of
Starting point is 00:41:48 that you sound like a you sound like a damn globalist you know what you're right I I'm gonna have to go so it turns out we're in Revelation according to Alex and again this is all just applause lines world government implantable microchips Satanism it's out of the open the Bible is fulfilled revelation is fulfilled Jesus Christ is for fair go mighty is in charge why we look at the miserable globalist you look at people like Bill Gates and you look at people like Mark Zuckerberg and the rest of them nice they are miserable slaves of Satan and we pray for them and hope that the Holy Spirit can still
Starting point is 00:42:36 touch their soul like this is embarrassing but you get why people enjoy this oh yeah this is great yeah yeah it's incredibly dumb this is what it's exciting yeah yeah at least has star quality totally whatever it is but you can also tell if you watch this that it really takes a lot out of him like you can tell that like he's pushing yeah to get all this yelling yeah his voice is exhausted yeah this is difficult yeah he's not a young man anymore no but you gotta do it we pray for president Donald John Trump in this incredibly serious moment and we pray for all the women in America who the system's trying
Starting point is 00:43:23 to lie to kill their babies what we say don't kill your babies the enemy has been forced out in the open world government sure is here okay and the system is publicly stealing this election from the biggest landslide and the biggest political realignment since 1776 I mean just every single line he knows how to yep how to frame a sentence in a way that will end with like not in like necessarily bad way but like you know you see comedians who like you know structuring yeah a line you know like oh what you're saying is funny but the way you've written that or the way you're saying that is not funny yeah it
Starting point is 00:44:12 doesn't lead people to the reaction that you're looking for yeah whereas Alex every single sentence that he's saying is specifically meant to make people yell at the end of it mm-hmm and that's I mean don't do this in the middle I don't think it's a good idea like you're going to make everyone else look like trash it's poor it's poor quality just don't let him on your show at all how is it that I could I could run a better fucking rally just using the same principles of booking a show yeah comedy show I bet you I bet you couldn't though because you have no idea who any of these people are oh that's true I
Starting point is 00:44:52 wouldn't have them at my rally I wonder if I could do that that would be an interesting challenge give me 10 seconds of each of these people say speaking and I'll see if I can't make a lineup out of them that would make more sense that would be a great game yeah yeah I might try put that together I'd be fun all right so anyway the big problem that I see with all of this and I'm gonna keep stressing this mm-hmm is the insistence on what you'd describe as like Christian nationalism yeah and the idea that your God is the only real God and right you know like it just imagining being someone who is not a you know a Christian
Starting point is 00:45:33 of this stripe in the audience and think about how uncomfortable you'd be our God is the God of the universe our God is the God of strength and honor and will and God is in control and God is on our side because it's not like it's the Jericho March and you know there is a religious character to it but it's also partnered with Ali Alexander in Stop the Steel and the Phyllis Schlafly Eagle Forum you know like it's not just it's just it's it's terrified I mean everything that they're saying though is screaming out a different form of we cannot coexist we will also know coexist yeah it's us or nothing that's it yeah
Starting point is 00:46:19 there's there is a there is there and to be fair so far the main speakers that we've heard are the my pillow guy and Alex sure so that's not you know to be indicative of like everybody right is unable to coexist right these voices that are being welcomed here sure fuck yeah I mean but even then like the best you could say for so many of these people would be like hey we can coexist so long as you stay under my boot then we'll be fine yeah so many people who have no idea about anything that has to do with the religion of Christianity think that the crucifixion was a bad thing you know like oh no if only we
Starting point is 00:46:59 could have stopped it no that's not how it works no no it was almost like crucial yeah no one really thinks that you know it was necessary for the atonement yeah and it was almost preordained if you will yeah so Alex also understands this okay he's not he's not one of these guys who would have like tackled the Romans okay so Judas is a good guy then I don't know okay Christ crucifixion was not our defeat it was our greatest victory when he rose again on the third day he broke the change of hell and death we have the deed to this planet we have the deed to eternal life and we praise
Starting point is 00:47:44 Jesus Christ and the father wow that's scary yeah that's terrifying he has the deed to the planet yeah yeah that's pretty much the most terrifying thing that somebody could scream at me mm-hmm yeah so in this next clip Alex gets into the First Amendment and you know stuff about like freedom of religion no but he's also gone too fast mm he's he's be burned a lot of gas yeah he's he's out of it yeah it's he has a little trouble Congress shall make no law restablishing the establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof all all make no law all respecting the establishment of
Starting point is 00:48:25 religion all really exercise thereof restablishing our forebears did not have separation of church and state as they spin it it means the state has no jurisdiction over any of us that's not true that's quite quite an extension of the the state has no jurisdiction over any of us pretty sure they were a conclusion pretty sure they weren't like Congress shall make no law respect with respect to the free exercise of religion but what that actually means is Christians are free of laws yeah if you can just create an excuse that's religiously based in heavy quotes then the state can't do anything like you
Starting point is 00:49:11 can kill for your religion yeah I don't I don't know I feel like that's what he's saying pretty much yeah but also it it's like these thoughts are not fleshed out it's just yelling yeah and they're there for people to scream hooray you bet you bet and here was Alex's lightning rod that he put out in order to get attention okay so I don't know who's going to the White House in 38 days but I sure know this Joe Biden is a globalist and Joe Biden will be removed one way or another nice so that was the clip that got the big amount of attention on the internet because people fairly accurately interpret that as a veiled
Starting point is 00:49:51 threat towards Joe Biden oh why is that I get that response but it's also exactly why Alex said what he said it's almost certainly not legally actionable as a threat and if the Secret Service end up talking to him about it that's even better that's super cool for him yeah Alex would love that I got a visit from the Secret Service so you know that what I said was powerful yep they're scared of me yep honestly when I heard that I thought it was pretty tame for Alex considering how up in arms people were like there are articles written about it like yeah I guess it takes on a slightly different character when he's
Starting point is 00:50:22 yelling those things in front of a crowd who then cheer but if you heard Alex say this and you think that's him crossing a line all that means is that you never listen to yeah I was I was gonna say I saw his name in the news and I was like I can't check on that but if that's what it was for Dan I I have surprising news for a lot of people yeah that's like that line there is an attention trap yeah that is a trap that people fall into and I understand why they do and I honestly don't know if the best thing to do is ignore it but if you pay attention to it that gives him free press and that's why he implied yeah on
Starting point is 00:51:00 a stage that Biden would be removed one way or another right I mean I guess with Alex the reality is he has nothing to back that thread up with at all and all he gets from it is attention for making that threat and you know I understand why you'd be like hey what the fuck is going on here but at the same time it's like you did the Alex is going Alex makes money because he says stupid shit like that and you go oh my god no and then we do it all in two months yeah yeah I mean that's kind of the theme of this show yeah so Alex slows down a little bit wants to talk about my man G dubs George Washington oh our our great first
Starting point is 00:51:42 president we literally are here on his farm that's where we're at George Washington didn't want to be king and every serve two terms and set that president he left he was a very quiet man I didn't talk about his beliefs but he was a Christian but those that knew him privately knew he knew God controlled battlefields God controlled governments God controls the games and all his success was because of his love of God so this rally is being held on the National Mall in Washington DC mm-hmm George Washington's farm is now a national landmark called Mount Vernon which is about 16 miles south and in the
Starting point is 00:52:22 state of Virginia nah come on now as for Washington's religious beliefs that's actually a matter that even scholars in the field of George Washington studies aren't fully settled on yeah mostly because of what Alex brings up and he is correct like Washington was really private about his beliefs mm-hmm the point is Alex can make that claim about Washington knowing that God runs everything and all this and the seriousness of his beliefs but Alex could never back that up you could never prove that why would you yeah you just make that claim it's good I mean that's good for him because like you
Starting point is 00:52:52 know even if you were talking to a Washington scholar they would be able to tease out more nuance to his beliefs they wouldn't be able to be like you're lying yeah yeah I mean looking at what they do with a guy who is alive and real and how they've created a false story for him a man you know there's no we have no chance of them not trying to claim the founding father said fucking whatever it is they want true now so Alex gets back to talking about how his God is the real God sure so never forget we worship the true God that created the universe and all of us and the satanic globalist trying to take control of us
Starting point is 00:53:29 and trying to play God are fallen and are failed and we need to just keep our eyes on Christ and never back down and never surrender whoo keep your eyes on Christ and away from politics like he said you remember how he said that also get ready to overthrow the government exactly I don't recall him being like a render unto Caesar what Caesar's cuz we're gonna fuck him up later so um you were making a joke about Jesus standing next to Alex on stage yeah he's not there he's not there but somebody is and that's Owen Shroyer slight down great little bit down little bit down Owen Shroyer is standing there on stage and
Starting point is 00:54:11 Alex hands the mic off to oh no listen to this clip oh no listen to this clip of Alex saying oh he's gonna let Owen talk because it sounds like he's gonna do a fucking ad okay he doesn't but it sounds oh no he's about to do that I'm gonna turn this over to my body for two minutes my great co-hosted info wars dot com Owen Shroyer and then the next great the next great guess you're coming up ever remember this it really sounds like the next great guess yeah it really sounds like he's about to remember this so prostiguard we are having our Easter sale in December mm-hmm so Alex finishes up his stuff before he ends off the
Starting point is 00:54:51 baton to Owen you know how 666 is the devil's number sure why not 1776 that's God's number yeah it doesn't sound right remember this God ordained this republic to stand against the satanic empires the Nazis and the communists and others and so 1776 is God's number of victory over the satanic 1984 God bless you all and I salute you thank you Jesus and that's that's Alex's speech so important numbers to God yeah he's a real numbers guy uh-huh 1776 is God's number because the United States was ordained by God to stand up to Nazis yep I remember that there's a little complexity to that I mean it's so what
Starting point is 00:55:38 happened then whenever we grabbed all their scientists and didn't and then weren't like hey could you guys quit being Nazi and we're just like you guys can you phrase that question in number 4 1944 so Owen yeah he's not great after that because how could you be sure I mean Alex just yelled the applause line after applause line he's worn out the audience yeah for like excitement yeah so Owen like this is so great God what a sad man boy look at what we have here today what started with one man on public access television is now millions of Americans in the streets of DC so many problems started with one man on local
Starting point is 00:56:24 access television he's pretending that Alex did did all of this like he created this entire event they're only all there for him yep and then he's also saying that there's millions of people which there are no boy there are not there are too many but oh and oh and oh and yeah oh boy so we got to do a little admin at this point Eric but taxes comes out and he's got to maybe you know reset the room a little bit people got a little bit too excited it's like at the dance hall the DJ can only play so many bangers in a row before you got to have one where everybody gets to sit down and maybe slow dance you know that kind of thing I
Starting point is 00:56:59 think people got too excited yeah and they're whipping their flags all around problem I've got a little housekeeping they said to me that these flags in the front when there when there's a speaker they're blocking the video and this is being live streamed all over the place so if you can just drop the flags whenever the speaker is speaking or the prayers praying dropping that means taking them down you probably don't realize the term drop means down with the flag could you do that flags is that it is what is that a Korean flag bring that down what is that kung fu martial arts flag bring that down come on me seriously because we want
Starting point is 00:57:34 everybody there's a lot of people who couldn't be here they're watching this on live stream yeah so they need to get those flags down that's a weird that's a weird little bit of just tossed off I don't know what's going on yeah yeah I don't know what that flag he's referring to is and also there is a brown station wagon with its horns going off right now could somebody please it's a brown station wagon license plate CE 9 4 2 9 yeah so he gets these flags down right in time right for the man the myth Ali Alexander to come out and give a little bit of a speech and he's he's basically out here saying hey
Starting point is 00:58:16 man look yeah now is the time that moral people moral people are deciding whether or not this presidency and this government itself is legit great I think that we are making history I think that today today is when moral Americans are deciding whether our government is legitimate or illegitimate I think that this is a signal to the deep state that we're not going to tolerate a Joe Biden presidency I'm gonna tolerate it yeah so he's saying essentially that all of us are gonna determine whether or not this is a legitimate government and the deciding thing will be whether or not Trump is installed again and great Ali is
Starting point is 00:59:00 a little threatening there's an interesting thing that's that I noticed through these two rallies mm-hmm the one with the women for Trump is largely not about destroying the GOP sure Ali is threatening the GOP I like it I don't know if every speaker here is interested in destroying the Republican Party but Ali who's one of the organizers of this is definitely open to that discussion I think it's a great discussion to have so not only will he destroy the GOP he will also shut down all of the cities good in this country all of them Ali our truckers will shut down the city unionize isn't it by DC full of patriots
Starting point is 00:59:46 here won't we we can do all things through Christ who strengthens us so to my Republican part my Republican colleagues put down those flags so that they can stream please really hung up on flags how can you want to be led by such winers like these people very soft there's such winers yep so Ali he's gonna shut everything down and he's gonna do this with the help of cool media outlets mm-hmm you shout out to RSBN whoa RSB and one American news one and newsmax that was loud epic time in TD TV never heard of it we don't need Fox News anymore do we no no info wars you just had Alex Jones up you basically work
Starting point is 01:00:55 there Alex's whole premise is like know what I say it for us because we're too dangerous you have Ali Alexander just that is something that is very consistent that is like funny he is still on the outside even with this completely wacky yeah media landscape so Ali is a really thrilled about this guy named Mo Brooks who apparently has come out he's a member of Congress in the house yeah and he's said that hey look even if the Electoral College comes back and says like hey Biden's the president I'm an object it's a you got it man yeah you took him down Ali is excited thank God for Congressman Mo Brooks he has said
Starting point is 01:01:43 that he will object to the house certification on January 6th and we need some of his colleagues to join him don't we we expect them to join him don't we or we will throw them out of office good luck yeah but it's it doesn't stop there the threats against the Republicans good who don't support Brooks threaten us so I want to tell the Republican Party that if one of these senators do not join Mo Brooks we will burn the Republican Party down and we will make something new oh no yeah you're so threatening I mean look I would say that that response is a little bit not good yeah that we have and that
Starting point is 01:02:35 is because like well in 2009 some of the similar rhetoric was flying around at early tea party rally yeah and it would have been very easy like yes destroy the Republican Party but you see that when that effort happens it's not like it cripples the party no it ends up pushing extreme voices closer to the mainstream yeah or the mainstream goes towards the crazy voices as is more often the case yeah we end up where we are now so I don't think that they're gonna be capable of doing this but encouraging this sort of inner inner GOP fighting mm-hmm I don't know if it's great because it does also lead to the
Starting point is 01:03:18 possibility of people like Ali or Nick Fuentes or Alex Jones coming into a more relevant position than they would be otherwise I think I think you're right presupposing that we do nothing which is what happens with the tea party we all sat by and laughed as they fought and we were like ha ha ha let them fight instead of using this as an opportunity for to sabotage both wings and fuck them up together like what we're doing is watching like like what they have done so successfully is constantly push a wedge between the left and the center and the Democratic Party that's the best thing that the Republicans know how to
Starting point is 01:04:00 do is whenever there's the internacing squabbles from the Democrats the Republicans jump in and start throwing shit at the wall to to see if they can cause more conflagrations in between us and every time this happens on the right the Democrats will look back and they're like well I bet the reasonable head shall prevail this time and it's insane yeah yeah that that is that does seem to be I don't know it's tough because I do want to laugh also yeah me too it's so funny I'd like to find a way to use this as a politically useful moment but also laugh well I mean I think the challenge like I feel for these
Starting point is 01:04:37 idiots kind of in a way not not the not the leaders I mean the people at the rally yeah I feel for people's aunts and uncles and grandparents like I feel for them sure I don't I don't feel for Ali no no absolutely not no I mean the people in the rally because they are being told don't feel for Ali feel for the rally yes no I mean the thing that I want to scream at all of these people is look if you want what they are telling you you want to get then you have to start a shooting war those are your options none of this shit that they're selling you is real they're wasting your time the only really want to balls up
Starting point is 01:05:16 then start a shooting war the or stop going to these dumb as rally the people who are taking the rhetoric that you are digesting seriously are beating up people on the streets exactly that is the unfortunate reality of the rhetoric and what you are acclimating yourself to exactly yeah that would be worthwhile for them to realize yeah and the fruition of like specifically what this type of rally is about like you get your goals you end up in a Christian theocracy mm-hmm and I don't think that anybody I don't think most people really actually want that no you know all those people who love Christianity and
Starting point is 01:05:55 they're super religious but then they get into those situations where they have to apply it and they're like well maybe not this time you know what I'm still a morally good person but this time I'm not going to act in this way you know tonight I'm gonna go out and get drunk and I'm gonna have a really good night let's say in a Christian theocracy you're fucking killed for it you know like it's that you're a pastor and you marry you know you're already married and then you end up banging around with the secretary totally and then totally you know I mean under theocracy that you will not do as well as you do under a
Starting point is 01:06:29 liberal republic a little bit different yeah you know how rich Christians still seem to get all the abortions that they want to get it is weird it is weird so Ali Alexander he thinks he's a mastermind and I gotta say this next clip just sounds like he thinks he's a bond villain and he's coming out to this this rally and like here is our grand plan oh boy so he's role-playing yeah it's it's a little cringy so the plan in January is to start organizing y'all we are gonna go into the county parties we're gonna go into the district parties and we are gonna go to the state conventions of the Republican Party and
Starting point is 01:07:10 we're taking over all 50 states we are gonna work with the Jericho March we're gonna work with Alex Jones we are gonna work with anyone who will work with us aren't we and let me just tell you how deep this goes because I've been in this business for 14 years and finally the movement has a strategist I sat across and I'm not gonna say his name a state party chair and I said hey buddy we've known each other for 12 years you're up for reelection in May I'm gonna flood your state convention and then after we take over all of the positions we're thinking to call a quorum and then we're going to impeach the rest of the
Starting point is 01:07:46 officers aren't we I'm a dangerous black man who knows Roberts rules of order Wow so the Republican Party I just want them to hear this message look at this crowd we are the people that you must represent or we're going to replace you with Patriots that's called voting yeah I think he's basically did he just discover voting I think he discovered community organizing I think so the thing that they have decried the left doing hate it so much because it's cheating focusing on local politics yeah yeah oh scary yeah see this is why it's hard to take Alex's threats seriously like we're gonna kill Joe Biden immediately
Starting point is 01:08:33 following like what we're gonna do is we're gonna go work on war on everyone what are we talking about I know Robert's rules of order god damn it I bet he doesn't I'm gonna I'm gonna follow Patton into battle if he gives a speech like if Robert's rules of order are dangerous in the wrong hands Patton is actually on my mind quite a bit throughout this and I think it's probably because General Flynn I watched him give the same speech twice I just kept thinking like this is not Patton yeah this is bad that's what I keep here I think when you hear nationalist propaganda you want it to be Patton right
Starting point is 01:09:13 well I mean that's what Alex is trying to be yeah and a lot of these people are just absolutely whiffing yeah not good and granted they're still bad and scary but anyway Ali ends his speech by talking a little bit about how God is giving him science sure this is upsetting the last thing I'll say and I'll probably be back up on stage later that we have God's favor one day I'm gonna tell you guys all the stories but this the Sun coming out like this this is God he has gone ahead of us I have been to ten different states and it's not rained once get the fuck out be the glory get the fuck out no no I've been
Starting point is 01:10:00 god damn it you ever been to ten states and it didn't rain once can you say that I guess I can't ha or maybe I can I don't know just flying count what if I flew over ten states and it didn't rain once does that count were you above the right counts God damn it oh this is how I feel everybody every time somebody tells me about ghosts everybody every time somebody's like oh you don't believe in ghosts I've got a ghost story I'm like tell me about how the Sun shined for ten states fuck you it didn't rain God it's a ghost didn't rain didn't rain all ghosts are real sure didn't rain yeah okay all right all right reverse Douglas
Starting point is 01:10:40 Adams rain God get the fuck out of here so after Ali gets done they have another speaker and this is a guy by the name of Leon Benjamin okay who's a bishop but I should also tell you that this is what I had a church okay this year he also lost the race for the fourth district of Virginia seat in the house as a representatives bummer he also probably would have lost in the primary like all the ding-dongs that we talk about on this show but he ran unopposed until the general election that was lost by quite a margin quite a margin what do you say what are you saying 38 to 61 38 to 61 that's not as big a margin as I would hope
Starting point is 01:11:21 no it never is it's pretty big yeah it is still pretty big but it's never big enough yeah so Eric Metaxas okay brings a bishop Leon Benjamin all right and man I gotta say I thought that like maybe this was a racist event uh-huh but man this cleared it up I heard I keep hearing that we're all racist and yet every now and again I bump into a black man at these events what is happening what is going what is happening every now and again is it supposed to be the narrative what are you talking about aren't we supposed to be all about white nationalism I keep reading that and you're screwing that up this is Bishop
Starting point is 01:12:04 Leon Benjamin he's got a shofar at the end of what he says he's gonna play the flight of the bumblebee don't miss it another bad joke wow yeah well they're not racist that's cool anyway let me just make a minstrel joke while saying he wasn't being racist it might be on the air it might be on the cusp I'm not entirely sure so Leon is really into Christian nationalism there are walls that must come down this is history today is December 12 12 the number for government that means a fresh anointing is about to come on this nation that was the number for government that we have never felt before and anointing we have
Starting point is 01:12:45 never seen before Jesus is the lion of the tribe of Judah and he will rule in America man man yeah white nationalists just really miss out on a lot of great breath black preachers uh-huh you know yeah so it's nice that they get this one but well that's that's the message of Christian nationalism I guess you know yeah you have inclusive of different still get a few good good talkers here in there so Jordan yes I don't know I know that we are we've heard a lot about we etches over the course of the time of doing the show they're fucking everywhere or it's true yeah but we've not really really gotten any good advice about what
Starting point is 01:13:30 to do about them or like that's true how do you talk to a deal with we etches this is this is what I learned about witchcraft you gotta tell a witch you gotta look them right in the eyes says I'm coming after you this is your last day this is your last time every curse you cursed against our president and against our nation is gonna double fold back on your head you have to be direct with witches you understand that's the advice I just I'm just I all I'm thinking is wizard of Oz Dorothy wakes up Glenda the good witch shows up and she's just like you'll get the fuck out of my face I will come and kill you you listen to me
Starting point is 01:14:13 I'm going back to Kansas that's how you deal with we etches that's how you deal with witches so Leon scares the hell out of me frankly because he says stuff like this but when you shout just understand you're shouting for not only this generation but you're shouting a legacy for the next generation because the demons we kill now our children will not have to fight these devils these are our devils and we will kill them now they will not fight our children just man I understand that there's some like rhetorical license that you're not maybe intending to talk about killing
Starting point is 01:14:57 humans and your political enemies but you're at a political rally and you're talking about these demons and these devils that were up against and the conversation very easily it could be understood as people who wear black and are like you think they're in Antifa maybe someone at a black lives matter rally maybe these are the demons that you don't want your children every one you get rid of is when your children doesn't have to fight right I don't I don't think that you know you could make a legally reasonable case that this is somebody threatening or inciting people to kill other people sure but it's
Starting point is 01:15:32 reckless it's recklessly expressed ideas and I can't that's a great speech if it's 1977 and you're talking about climate change every bit of greenhouse gas that we get rid of is one that don't have to deal with exactly you kind of put it that way then it makes great sense it's a good thing to do in fact somewhat yeah so Alex Jones gave his speech and then a little video came out of him backstage oh yeah he ran into general Flynn ooh and this is really really funny had some words I recommend people go find this video since we're an audio podcast will play the audio and then I'll explain what happened
Starting point is 01:16:25 general Flynn did not want to talk to Alex no at all I don't know why Alex comes up and he's like crazy day hey does not turn to him all he kind of like turns his head but not his body he's like yeah it is crazy day he's like oh we're gonna win like yeah and then he's scared he's scared it's like what yeah scared to shake my hand yeah yeah and then the Alex kind of gets this like like someone else kind of walks up and Alex it gets the sense like I got to leave oh wow he walks off yeah and the camera pans over and Owen Troyer standing a ways back so there's the reveal of Owen Troyer he's just in the corner
Starting point is 01:17:10 watching yeah like keeping his distance because he knows like this is gonna for me I'm not supposed to be there and then Alex tries to save face with like you guys are funny no Flynn either knows who you are and doesn't want to be associated with you or has no idea who you are oh man either way it does not work well for his brand yeah you should not meet your heroes that you created fictional versions of assuming that the fictional version will greet you warmly yeah yeah it's an issue so Flynn he gives up he gives a speech gets a gets up at this Jericho rally and man what a what a fucking beginning to this speech
Starting point is 01:17:48 just awe-inspiring you know I was gonna end with a prayer but maybe we'll start with a prayer this sounds plan I told I told Mike Lindell as he was walking and we bumped into each other I actually had the first good sleep of my night of my life last night so my po.com I'll give him a commercial Mike fucking Flynn starts the plug for my pillow oh my god he must be throwing around cash my pillow guy on this our safe Christmas day I must remind you we happy few money is that guy making there is a five percent discount did he find straw beds when we return home heroes did he find like a cache of Kruger and I don't know but
Starting point is 01:18:50 Flynn's got that pillow cash God anyway so I know in dune mm-hmm I know people love dune talk right love dune talk and they love it yeah the my fear uh-huh is the mind killer fear is the mind is that correct it is correct you tell me a little bit about fear is the mind killer it is the little death that man now that I'm on the deep more is an orgasm no no no fear is that no it's part of the litany against fear Dan so something that the Bene Gesserit teach you to say whatever you're afraid a deep you did muadip did learn the litany against fear and used it many a time in order to calm himself and bring himself into a more
Starting point is 01:19:29 how does this relate to Duncan Idaho Duncan Idaho learned the litany against fear his mother was a Bene Gesserit okay and so he was aware of all of that stuff however he was never trained in the ways of the Bene Gesserit because men children were not allowed only the quiz that's hot rock Dan good good and we're sandworms Bene Gesserit sandworms are not Bene Gesserits did they were actually God himself fear I hallowed fear is the mind killer fear is the mind and worm body killer sandworms kill everybody but they are also God okay they are also the devil shaitan I got this I wanted to just discuss this a little bit because as
Starting point is 01:20:09 Mike Flynn was talking I was like are you gonna get into feet he's talking about fear uh-huh is he gonna say that fears the mind killer he's very close oh man very close I want him to do it in our minds in our minds that's where we find fear because fear is a is a mental thing it's something that you have in your in your minds and you fear things because your mind says I must I'm afraid of that I'm afraid of this but it's in our hearts it's in our hearts where we truly know what is right because in our hearts that's where we differentiate between good and bad right where we differentiate between darkness and light
Starting point is 01:20:51 and we know that we know that in our heart we it's a it's that gut feeling but it's actually your heart it's your heart talking to you not in your mind because your mind is going to say I'm afraid so fear is the mind killer yeah trust your gut because you're it like weird feelings are actually your heart which is clearer because your heart is free of fear the only thing we have to fear is fear because it comes from inside you but it's also part of your heart and you can't listen to it but it's not part of your heart because it's what you're afraid of and it's in your head and fear is what we fear the most itself
Starting point is 01:21:27 yeah Patton yeah yeah now a lot of a lot of great speakers in history not one of them no I realized as he was speaking that I don't think I've ever heard like a full speech of his me neither and I found it underwhelming I've found that to be incredibly terrible yeah so one thing I'm afraid of is helicopters yeah that's not actually true but it's a good segue nice because well Flynn one thing I'm afraid of it segues oh well we're both terrified we go well Flynn is on stage that's when the flyover happens and this is just depressing imagine being able to just jump in a helicopter going for a joy ride around
Starting point is 01:22:07 Washington T.C. I love it I love the fact that he does that that's what he does because he knows he knows that the people that he can trust are people that he's never met and that's you I mean he's never met look at the millions of people right he trusts you he trusts you because he knows you know what's going on and you will not allow what's happening to happen in our country none of us will it's just not gonna happen I will tell you one more time because I've been asked on a scale of 1 to 10 who will be the next president of the United States and I say Donald Trump 10 a 10 you know that that moment there where he's
Starting point is 01:22:49 like first of all the idea that Trump can trust you people who he doesn't know it's very sad so sad but when Flynn is like he trusts you because you're the ones who know what's going on you're not gonna let what's happen and it happened yeah makes me think of that Andy daily character who's like the cut stand-up comic who says nothing yeah like what else is in the new yeah another and I mean come on what is what is going on with one of these come on I mean nothing when I was not if I have anything to say when this goes down oh boy yeah yeah drop trust you because you know what's going on and you're not gonna
Starting point is 01:23:27 like what happens happen wow I could say say that you wanted everyone to incite an installing of the unelected president it just punctures so much of that like it is it is one of those things that you don't really it doesn't always hit you until it does like how much you've been fucked up by movies and TV and culture and all that shit because you just hear general and you like see his military record and all of these war or like all of this shit and he rose to this high rank and you're like that's the fucking guy yeah you kind of think of no nonsense stern sort of men a few words yeah yeah upper lip kind of yeah
Starting point is 01:24:12 and that's not the vibe Flynn gets actually he's the brown nosing toady who political who politicized his way up into the military high ranks he's a fucking dick there's another guy who's like from vets for Trump who gives a speech that is fairly uneventful and I don't have any clips of it but he was far more like what you're talking about yeah what you would expect like a guy was like oh you're you're terrified yeah yeah you're dark you're dark yeah you're like an archetype of someone who's seen some shit yeah so this I gotta say the Jericho rally drags yeah I believe it and I'm done with it we're not gonna talk
Starting point is 01:24:50 about any more of it because it just ends up deteriorating into a thing where like there's a guy from bikers for Trump and he ends up talking about how they they formed this group right they formed this group because they wanted to stop Antifa from throwing dog poop at Trump supporters who are waiting in line to get into events you said that in front of people yeah he said that in an interview on the TV wow there's also some more religious weirdos and you know just I just I lost it I couldn't I mean there was also a couple other info wars characters but they were like kind of really adjacent people like Jason Jones
Starting point is 01:25:23 the guy who hosts the fourth hour sometimes yeah like he was there and he gave an interview I was just kind of like this is this is too much and again I think the problem is that Alex was kind of early yeah it really took so much steam out of it yeah none of these other people could reach the heights of that like you know like I don't I don't know of any actual comedian who talks about laughs per minute mm-hmm yeah but I heard the idea discussed and applause lines per minute Alex just wrecked shop yeah like no one is gonna be able to recover yeah yeah yeah he scorched earth it yeah yeah yeah and so I which I
Starting point is 01:26:00 imagine he did on purpose honestly yeah because I've been I've been under but I've been put where I wasn't supposed to go in the lineup before yeah and I made it very clear I wasn't supposed to go there yeah you know yeah I'm going to bury whoever comes up next bury your headliners so far into the ground yeah it's gonna be brutal it's also notable that Alex and Mike Flynn both come out to the Mission Impossible theme Alex might have stolen Mike Flynn's intro music now that's that's some petty shit that I'm here for yeah I'm here for that patiness all day I think there might be something there um so I watched a bunch
Starting point is 01:26:39 more of this but I lost my patience for it because I mean like how much what else are we gonna find more examples of people saying the exact same Christian nationalist ship who cares God kill everybody we got it moving on but there was another rally that day and this was the women for America first rally this was being held pretty close nearby around the same time there's some particularly fun footage also that's going around on Twitter which is of Alex trying to bum rush the stage at the women for Trump rally that sounds like a metaphor I'm able to understand clearly very unsuccessful
Starting point is 01:27:41 yes yes that is how you get a scored it out this is a family show Alex my first thought when I watched that was that Alex seems like he's on stimulants yeah like he seems amped yeah red eyes yeah and like grinding his mouth and like ready to fight with a security guard who won't let him through yeah feels like he's clearly thinks he's entitled to get up there and get on stage yeah of course at an event where the security guard is like you're not welcome here yeah but I think about it and I'm like well honestly he probably is coming over there right after he yelled at the other
Starting point is 01:28:48 crowd I would assume he was he thought he was welcome jacked as fuck off the adrenaline of that totally maybe also some stimulants who know why not but an older man yeah so there he got shut down from going to the women for America first rally and you can tell the censorship you can tell that that's that rally because you can hear the guy in the background talking about the March for Trump yeah which was the bus tour that led to inculminated with this women for Trump yeah America first rally I didn't hear him whining about flags either so I assumed it was a wait for it oh no so this rally was a much it's much
Starting point is 01:29:26 less relevant to our focus since there's less direct info wars connections Alex wasn't allowed at this one he was allowed at the other show and even let Owen shroyer on stage yeah that's weird Ali Alexander was one of the organizers of the Jericho rally like I said there were a couple other info wars people that you could find hanging around in contrast this women for America first rally felt like people who are a bit more interested in being taken seriously the thing that I take issue with is that I can only find two real differences between them one is that Alex was not allowed at the women for America first
Starting point is 01:29:59 one and they also seem to mention political issues a little more oh Jericho wow that was pretty solidly focused on demanding Christian nationalism yeah whereas this one is hiding a little bit in conservative politics big difference between the middle and far right wings of the Republican Party and desperately trying to appear somewhat credible with their booking choices sure so they have like Katrina Pearson and Seb Gorka yes very credible well comparatively well I mean I guess I guess they're bigger names maybe like Sebastian Gorka has a show that's syndicated okay that's Alex is on Genesis communications still
Starting point is 01:30:40 amazing to me that Seb Gorka is just allowed to roam free it is and shockingly I texted you about this last night well I was I texted you that he seems like a character like yeah yeah yeah like it's I had not also heard much Sebastian Gorka mm-hmm except for maybe like little clips or honestly a domian doing an impression yeah yeah I've only heard what you've played for me I honestly felt like watching that I was like Sebastian Gorka's leaning into the bit oh yeah he was becoming the parodies of himself that sounds like maybe the parodies are just that good yeah that like they really nail it because he
Starting point is 01:31:21 seems he seems like a farce of a person yeah I mean whenever your front lines are run by a hair dye bleeding Rudy Giuliani in front of a landscaping company man your parodies are gonna be just straight impressions Rudy is the guy who hits the barbed wire so Jordan I did originally intended that we would cover the entire rally of the women for America first sure just like the Jericho one yeah but the more I thought about it the less that seemed compatible with my goal of creating a decent show that people can enjoy yeah we could have just done rallies that were terrible Mike Flynn and the my pillow guy basically
Starting point is 01:32:01 give the exact same speeches at both rallies and the whole thing just drags on way too long much like the other one with people just basically saying nothing yeah like it's really it's really vapid well it has to be yeah they have no actual substance it's mostly getting people to chant about loving Trump and yeah you know whatever yeah it's fucking straight up Nazi shit I decided that possibly a better way to approach the women for America first rally was to hand out some awards some superlatives okay as if this lineup was a bunch of matriculating graduating seniors in high school love it so the
Starting point is 01:32:36 first the first title I'd like to bestow on someone is likely to secede no not bad all right yeah most confusing breath of fresh okay what's up DC how was general Flynn you guys was that amazing or what that man and his family have laid it on the line for our country over and over and over again and we can't show them enough gratitude this guy is very clearly drunk yeah he looks to be in his late 30s early 40s and is wearing what appears to be a red sequined smoking jacket all right now I like him now I'm back on board he's got a beard he seems fucking day drunk at like noon or what I I there but for the grace of God go I
Starting point is 01:33:33 Dan he is absolutely out of place at this rally and as the kids say I was here for it also I have no idea who he is you never says his name I tried to find out I could not find out I looked at the comments of the YouTube video I googled lineup of event I couldn't find it he was standing next to Alex when the security guard stopped and he's like whoop I'm gonna go on through then but unfortunately like all things we discuss on this show that are kind of fun he ended up revealing himself to be a piece of shit but also in the same clip that he says something that I was really tickled by there's three parts to my
Starting point is 01:34:13 message well armed I lost all my guns a tragic boating accident what what just happened you guys have what did you just say to me second part no you stop about that I want to know the first part of ability something that we have to deal with with the kung-fu we were doing so good we even got tragic boating accident I wasn't expected that I'm not sure if that is a joke he actually had a boating accident could also be could also be I why would you say tragic boating accident that seems specific it's either pretty funny as a joke yeah like I I don't have any guns I lost them in a tragic that's something that I would toss off if I was
Starting point is 01:34:59 seeing somewhere I'd just be like I lost a tragic boating accident everybody moves on yeah not a bad throwaway line yeah yeah toss also could be real and I want to know the story I was he just tell me that he lost all of his guns in a tragic way I find him to be an engaging presence he's got this weird red sequence smoking jacket he's fucked up why do you have to say that fucking racist it's a little bit like a racist right-winger played by Kyle Kanane you know I had no idea what is going on I don't know who he is he doesn't introduce himself no one says like he's on the now the TV stream of it there's
Starting point is 01:35:43 no name on the Kyron no idea I have no idea but while he's on stage he introduces a person who has the same name as a big celebrity but does not appear to be that celebrity you will never stand for it and we're gonna keep coming back until it's known and our president the greatest president ever is where he's supposed to be I fucking love this guy he's great share this with an amazing woman I told her I'd keep it brief I don't want to get trouble Jennifer Lawrence come up and talk to everybody I thought maybe if I figured out who she is I still have no idea who anybody is when that couple crashed a
Starting point is 01:36:40 White House party and everybody was like holy shit how did they get in there if it is I love it so Jennifer Lawrence is unfortunately Christian nationalist well that's how those people on that hill over there need to remember that they work for us we the people we don't work for them we answer to God not government and God is gonna tell us who's gonna be the president and God is gonna what this country is gonna go and we are gonna fight okay thank you Jennifer Lawrence so so then so then you even if so then even if you get your president you're still not gonna do what the government says I guess not anyway congratulations
Starting point is 01:37:22 to clearly day drunk guy in a sequenced smoking jacket you have won the very coveted title of most confusing breath of fresh air I was a little bit hoping that like somebody out of like what if JB Smoove did five minutes like that's what I was hoping the super surprising confusing breath of fresh air was no it's a day drunk guy in a sequined red coat pretty close to JB Smoove yeah so the next award that I'm gonna give out the next a parlative is the best integration of promotional messaging into a stump speech my pillow my pillow no well my pillow might be involved okay but this award goes to
Starting point is 01:38:00 radio show host David J. Harris and let me say it's not even close okay all right ran away with this thing and a special thank you to the co-sponsor that really helped fund a lot of this mr. my pillow himself Mike Lindell amazing Patriot loves this country loves us loves the president and the president loves him and I gotta tell you I love his codes right I love his pillows I love his sheets I love his mattress topper and I love his codes cuz you know what the Kraken has been released you are part of the Kraken so for the best deals to support this Patriot use the code Kraken at my pillow.com amazing just amazing
Starting point is 01:38:50 just amazing can't just amazing I can't say enough how not smooth that was that is really really bad but David doesn't just stop with my pillow codes he also throws out like hey I'm big on social media I've worked hard over the last few years to try to bring you real honest news at David Harris junior.com I've got 2.3 million followers on Facebook 1.1 on Instagram plug in his website social media and that's great but yeah that is all just in order to prepare you for another plug which is the solution to Facebook okay I hear people talking about Parler Parler is amazing it's a great alternative to Twitter but we need an
Starting point is 01:39:36 alternative to Facebook something that works and operates like Facebook and I've found it I'm gonna be talking about it loud I've got a lot of my friends are gonna be talking about it loud it's called Spreeley stands for speak freely and here's where you can download it SP REE Ly Spreeley you're gonna hear a lot about that and they're gonna dominate Facebook I'm gonna guess they're not but I go all these people like a lot of them seem to be pushing internet startups like there was that Ian Raiklin guy who came to Alex's CPAC thing and he was trying to push a search engine yeah like I think that they're really trying to make a
Starting point is 01:40:15 little bit of a fast cash on the yeah the conservative agreement over her social media market I mean this is but this is what I'm saying when I when I say like I feel for these idiots in the crowd here like you guys are being sold the idea that you can legally just get whatever you want so long as like they'll fire lawsuits and then we'll get whatever we want because we're right and they're selling you all of this like and when this happens which we totally know it's going to it will keep us from having to do the one thing that we know is the only way to get what we want to achieve and we're trying to avoid and
Starting point is 01:40:53 it's like you're just being taken along by these guys who are selling you on Spreeley no one's gonna go on Spreeley oh yeah anyway he also has perfected this this this technique this David Harris has of protected prayer he does the Lord's Prayer but he wants to really take every line of it and to think about what does it mean yeah are we gonna get a we're not gonna listen to all of it we're not gonna get into bridge so long oh boy six minutes Jesus yeah but this is the end of it and how smoothly it transitions into a plug oh wow give us a greater understanding father of your love for us as the individual son as an
Starting point is 01:41:39 individual daughter give us a greater revelation father of you fake piece of shit for us fuck your cell catalyst and that change in our country in Jesus name amen I truly believe we're gonna win I truly believe the fraud is gonna be exposed the Kraken has been released we the people will not be denied seeing another four years of the amazing presidency of Donald J Trump God bless you I think we're gonna hear this and still 45 we're gonna hear that again so please visit David Harris junior dot com help me fight these suckers that are just constantly on me I'll fight these suckers that are on me wow wow quite a
Starting point is 01:42:36 ride and Jesus overturned those moneychangers tables and said follow me yet at Jesus underscore magic like these suckers yeah yeah I found his speech to be laden with a promotion to to a point where it was distracting yeah it was a little distracting granted I have no idea who this guy is so I I don't I can't judge his body of work I can only watch this and say it was a little much yikes so Jordan yes sir our next category what's that is the most graceful exit from someone who clearly did not want to be there this award goes to someone we know actually he's a guy who promoted Pizza Gate quite heavily oh no
Starting point is 01:43:22 Jack Paso back oh god damn it they said that I could have longer time up here today said but I said I want to give my time up I want to give my time up to a whistleblower a courageous whistleblower who saw something and decided to say something and stand up so ladies and gentlemen all the way from Michigan Melissa Carone who's gonna come up and tell you what she saw so that's the wow lady who appeared to be drunk with Rudy Giuliani in that that video that everyone loves it is yeah so Jack clearly I think I got the vibe that he was because that's like a minute into his yeah that's great he's just like I'm out of
Starting point is 01:44:03 here great yeah I'm just you know they would have given Melissa Carone a speaking spot if she'd asked totally no he just was like yeah I don't really want to do this I want to do it no but I do want my name there yeah just in case I would like my attention yes but I do not want to do the work for it thank you yeah so uh congratulations Jack you made a graceful exit yeah that's well done there's a oh there's a late entry what's that there's actually an escalation of this category oh no now we have to give out the award for the person who made the most graceful I'm not even showing up this award goes to Dinesh D'Souza
Starting point is 01:44:41 now it's my honor to introduce another young lady you know her father Dinesh D'Souza you see him all over tv he couldn't join us today but Danielle D'Souza is here she's a strong pro-life young woman the author of the book The Choice and I'm proud to introduce her to you today here in Washington D.C. Danielle D'Souza Dinesh D'Souza was invited he said fuck no I'll send my daughter oh boy take that jack besobic wow wow jack you didn't know you could half-ass it still further yeah lazy yep so why did you not just say why didn't send in a video message announcing Melissa Carbone or whatever you know you know who did send in a video message Dinesh D'Souza no Marjorie Green the
Starting point is 01:45:28 QAnon the crazy person yeah yeah yeah all right good for her good for her that was one of those like real curveballs in terms of like their booking yeah I feel like you guys are trying to have an air of yes not out there too far so we got the craziest congress person we could find well and she only sent in a video yeah that's not good it's that's not good it could be better overthrowing democracy is not always the most popular thing to do I've seen that it's true yeah so the next category Jordan is the second most likely day drunk person after the guy in his equine shirt oh he's 100 yes there's there's no competition yeah no that one's that one's all the way up to full second place however second most likely that honor goes to Boris Epstein who I
Starting point is 01:46:14 should remind you for the guy from Sinclair media yeah I should remind you tested positive for COVID-19 on November 26th great he showed up and he seemed drunk hello America I was told I shouldn't take the mic off but I'm gonna do it anyway right right what do we love love who do we love we love Trump we love why why we love Trump we love Trump get the facts higher we love Trump we love Trump we love Trump I love that Boris is like apparently didn't hear everyone yelling to put the flags down nope get those flags up get those flags up get the flags in the air at two different events people have been saying put the flags down so he could stream
Starting point is 01:47:14 and Boris like now fuck that I don't know I don't know if he's actually drunk it's really tough to tell because it also I realized as I was watching this it's hard to tell the difference between like maybe kind of day drunk buzzed and sort of just jacked up off of being in front of a crowd this big and maybe doing those like standard get the crowd pumped up kind of things like those you gotta sound crazy if you do that you know yeah and those are the kind of things that you instinctually do when you're drunk like getting a crowd to chant USA is really fun yeah that's true I can't this this is maybe the largest disconnect more than our politics even the idea any politician the idea of saying if me chanting we love blank politician fuck that it's period it seems weird
Starting point is 01:48:06 period yeah I think AOC is incredible I'm not gonna chant we love AOC fuck that I tell myself that I think I would be just as a like put off by seeing large crowds chanting we love Obama back in 2008 creepy but maybe I wouldn't have been maybe that's a bias on my part I don't know I'd like to think that I would sure but I'm not certain I were much younger than and you know Obama was coming out after the previous worst president in American history I like to think that I would respond the same it'd be like yeah weird yeah but I wonder if I would see that and I would give the like sort of like oh they're not in a cult of personality this is just expressing their political sure sure I wonder I like to think I mean I wouldn't I don't know Obama Jordan that was
Starting point is 01:48:56 significantly long ago I would say the most recent is obviously the Bernie Sanders campaign in the primary in 2016 whenever he had those massive rallies but even then I don't remember people screaming like you're the chanting like feel the burn something like that but then it's yeah it's like a weird all in this together not like we love you you know like that's creepy Logan was not me us yeah exactly yeah we love us I would be fine with chanting that yeah I yeah I don't know it's it's it's tough I know that I don't like looking at it here and I like to I like to think that maybe even if I had turned a blind eye to it before I would now look upon people chanting like let's say I love AOC yeah or whatever I would look at that much
Starting point is 01:49:42 differently don't so maybe this has given me an illuminating moment yeah yeah yeah so we have another superlative another title person who is putting the most direct I didn't prepare this title okay this one's this one's a little bit off the dummy person who's putting the most effort into getting people killed okay that goes to I don't remember his name but he's that gym owner in New Jersey who refuses to stay yeah yeah yeah if you would have asked me back in February if I thought that one person could make a difference I would have laughed and said hell no but here I am today one man a part of a team of two guys who stood up to a governor and told him no we will not listen and it's starting a movement across the country they're trying that second
Starting point is 01:50:33 wave that they've been predicting for so long and more and more businesses are staying open and I'm here to advocate every single freedom-loving American to go out and support these small businesses and I'm gonna give you a way how we created a directory a nationwide directory of businesses that are staying open thinking of as a yelp for freedom-loving Americans who won't listen to COVID restrictions I have a flaw in that plan so go out there and support that is www.stayopen stayfree.com check it out go encourage businesses to sign up and go support them because the more that do the quicker this thing will fall apart I promise you this works equally well as a registry of businesses to avoid yeah yep yep wow yeah I didn't think that one man could make a difference
Starting point is 01:51:28 but now look at me the horseman of plague spreading COVID to all who come near me yeah Jesus Christ King might not age well yeah um so I went and I looked at this guy's registry and I looked for Chicago yeah and there's exactly one business in the city of Chicago and it is an apartment building which is just like all right I guess all right I guess that's where you want to remote yeah seems silly okay uh it's a gold coast department oh well that doesn't surprise me yeah hey it was gonna be anywhere gold coast is where I don't know if this is what that was for I think this is more about like retail right now I was thinking so yeah I don't cool so next superlative Jordan is actually a tie yes sir this is very shocking okay most insane
Starting point is 01:52:20 preacher oh there's two two it's a tie the first goes to goes to reverend lock out of Tennessee if you're glad to be on the winning side let's make some noise DC I read the back of the book and it doesn't end with all me it ends with amen and this thing is gonna turn out all right we're not gonna back up we're not gonna pack up we're not gonna slack up and we're not gonna shut up till we've been taken up by the glory of god and I am convinced that Donald J. Trump is gonna remain the president of the United States do you believe that this afternoon patriots have you met my snakes oh my god dude we got a revival preacher on come on buddy we're getting a lot of different particular flavors of exciting preachers
Starting point is 01:53:10 and that's why it has to be a tie is because these guys have completely different styles but reverend lock or pastor lock who knows whatever he does not ask permission when he wants to tell the devil that the devil is on notice I think he should not even ask permission for I said it and never do but let me tell you something I serve notice on the devil this guy is an auctioneer I was gonna I was actually thinking that exact same thing I was like man you have a gift for saying words fast and dumb do not do this job he's he's very exciting yeah verbally yeah that's yeah you were never as the devil for god damn peace of permission but I'll tell you this right now everybody that's going to be there tonight we see five over there and now it's 10 over there that
Starting point is 01:53:51 10 ready do I have 20 over there 20 20 over there all right and the lord says so that's where it's functional but unfortunately he uses his gifts to yell about how everyone will be forced to bow in front of Jesus that's not good that are the name of Jesus every knee should bow of things in heaven and things in earth and things under the earth and at every I said that every republican every democrat shall bow and with their voice proclaim him lord of lords to the glory of god the father so you have a choice and the choice is clear we can declare Jesus lord of our life right now because we want to or we can declare Jesus Christ lord of our life in the day of judgment because we have to but make no mistake Jesus Christ is lord and I want you to chant king of kings
Starting point is 01:54:44 king of kings yeah so that guy is scary in many ways but the vocal patterns are fun so I'll give him that king of kings yeah oh boy so the next guy who's tied here for this most insane preacher is a guy named Brian Gibson and I actually found this kind of endearing okay his wife brings him up introduces him on stage and do you know that it's his wife initially because she's just like this next speaker is just my favorite person oh my husband oh that's cute it's adorable all right and then Brian Gibson pastor Brian Gibson complains about how his Easter service I hate my wife no it his Easter service didn't work out he's gonna try and give eggs to children okay on Easter Sunday I blew a fuse I put together an Easter egg giveaway we were going to give some kids an egg in the
Starting point is 01:55:38 name of Jesus the health department called me said if I gave those eggs away that they would shut down the church of the lord Jesus Christ and you keep those fucking eggs the health department I swear to god I swear to god that's your bitching that's what you're complaining about you keep those eggs wow and I'm gonna tell you no one has the authority to shut down the church of the lord Jesus Christ except Jesus Christ himself when he returns first church come on give god a hand clap if you believe it give god a hand clap does god need a pause yes I organized a parking lot communion service I called all of the press I said come out tell the governor I'm distributing communion elements and they can come arrest me because I'd love to go to jail for the preaching
Starting point is 01:56:33 of the gospel uh that's not what you would be going to jail for sir you were not actually preaching gospel used to every time I got drunk and coked up I got arrested what's up with that yeah what is it what is up with that yeah what is up with that now I can't get arrested for preaching no wow oh boy kind of a little bit uh talent huh a little bit there anyway he would not make the cut uh if it weren't for his just extreme christian nationalist leanings let me say this America did not birth the church America did not birth the church but the church birthed America not true sir sir sir excuse me and the only thing that will save America is the same thing that birthed America the church of the
Starting point is 01:57:23 Lord Jesus Christ so yeah I mean this is I was gonna go with King George but uh I guess I was wrong nope you were absolutely right I guess I was way off what about that whole no taxation without representation thing wasn't that really important or was it is just church church all right okay you realize that like the Puritans were kicked out church because they hated them church because everybody hated them again because they're the worst these two preachers are at the one that is not the more religiously branded wow which which they're the one that wasn't the product of a vision yeah yeah so I'm just trying I'm trying to tell you all of this is you know I I want to say I want to say like religious people come get your guys or you get what you get man and that's that's
Starting point is 01:58:13 mockery yeah yeah yeah I don't I don't blame decent religious people for this I blame religion for this that's an interesting conversation I don't want to have right now fair I do I do want to give out the next award okay and this is the last award all right this goes to the most bewildering transition between speakers okay this begins with a woman whose name is either Anna Kate or Anna K it's hard to tell from the intro okay the intro is a guy named Matt Couch who's giving her the intro from mycouch.com no no there's a great promo code he's a dude who really did some damage to the rich family the Seth Rich oh here's your shit I don't know what the fuck anyone's doing ever letting him speak in public again but anyway he gives the intro to either Anna Kate or Anna K
Starting point is 01:58:59 no idea she's she's a very devout Trump worshiper who's apparently been in prayer for 40 days straight and I guess she's breaking that now to give the people of this rally an update how dare you fucking lie like that she says she says that prophecy has promised that Trump will be given two consecutive terms so therefore he must have won after saying this she's got a message for the devil the second message is for the devil and his minions and all the wizards and witches that are watching right now all over the world this is for you we're gonna do a chant right now we're gonna do a chant because it's awesome to exalt Trump Trump is our anointed one he's your anointed one to bring justice back into this country not justice I do worry that I'm one
Starting point is 01:59:48 of the wizards yeah I'm pretty sure you're a wizard yeah yeah I think I think that no matter what the reality is I would be looked upon as a wizard totally total devil no it doesn't matter honestly even if there was no religion I'm still looking at you just going like you got a real Lord of the ringsy vibe to you I've been forced into the role of a wizard I mean you leaned into it though your erudite you you're obsessive you live on the third floor you're in a tower if you will come on buddy hmm you're john d reincarnated all right fine I'm a wizard anyway this lady chants for Jesus she wants to chant Jesus his name is the devil weak to chance yes oh okay shit I know that because I'm a wizard so they chant Jesus and then she repents for abortion which is apparently a blood
Starting point is 02:00:38 sacrifice to ball sure count of three we're gonna can't chant Jesus because this was a vision I had a few weeks ago because it's shifting in the atmosphere now in Jesus name Lord we repent before we chant his name Lord we repent for all the blood sacrifice that has been poured out in this nation Lord we repent for abortion Lord God this sacrifices to bear we exalt you Lord so yeah then they start chanting Jesus now here Jordan here is the transition that is outrageous and made me laugh out loud okay while I hours into watching this stupid rally this is your second rally yes oh boy and I loved this moment more than I can really put into words okay so Mike down for this all right enjoy this minute and 15 second ride Jesus Jesus Jesus Jesus glory to God we're going to see a
Starting point is 02:01:38 miracle amen amazing right hey guys right here in the middle if we could keep the flags down we have some guys at RSPN who've been with us the whole way they're amazing but block at the shot and we want to make sure people at home can enjoy it too thank you guys yeah just right here in the center between us and the cameras everybody we love you guys his flags they're amazing and we love RSPN because you guys need to be watching them all right next up we're going to mix it up we're going to bring some amazing artists out here price the grave for you how to blow y'all ready to turn up
Starting point is 02:02:32 it's hard for me it's hard for me to move around with this mic though all right so what's happened here is that we started with the lady chanting Jesus who had a message for the devil in the wizards and then my drunk friend comes back out he tells people to keep those flags down boy a little bit more admin a little bit of business and then he introduces a rap act there's a rap concert you know it's just it was easier to have religious epiphanies before technology I imagine at no point during the sermon on on the mount was Peter like hey guys guys we are leaving too much bread around there is a lot of bread going around on the floors it is attracting too many birds birds are getting in the shot this is not hitchhawk and now a rap concert on the mount
Starting point is 02:03:23 so yeah this guy named Bryson Gray comes out to do a little rap set all right he has a couple albums that he's put out all right one called maga season spelled szn oh he's hot another one another album called maga christmas another another album called maga ain't got no color and his other album can't cancel god so so is it his label who wanted the christmas album or was so released um so I went and I look I listened to a little bit of his stuff and I got to say he's serviceable as an actual rapper he's not good as a lira sister yes yeah okay as someone who's delivering words over beats sure sure sure he's not as bad as a lot of people I've heard okay I will say that and I think he's just not he's not anything interesting sure I don't find anything
Starting point is 02:04:18 compelling about it it's largely just like rapping you know sort of conspiracy talking points and Trump shit I don't really care but I went and I actually found a review of one of his albums okay it was shocking because like the review really agreed with me like he's not terrible but this is boring I like that because it's like yeah this review isn't insulting him yeah he's a shitty rapper yeah you're not doing anything interesting it's kind of uncompelling yeah you have some skill or whatever oh man no you hate my politics honestly your politics I do hate him but we're talking about the music here buddy if you could deliver your politics in a interesting artistic way yeah I might still appreciate what you make even if I disagree with what you're sure you're putting
Starting point is 02:05:05 out possibly I might be able to get there but you're just boring as hell look everybody knows Cecil DeMille okay we get it yeah so he comes out with another rapper whose name I forget uh because I don't care um but they have some tech issues at the beginning and so they have to vamp for a little bit of course and then the music starts this is the last clip okay because what ends up happening is just perfect it could not be more perfect I think that this sums up everything who out here is disappointed in the supreme court decision yesterday god fear and god told the patriot oh they thought they was gonna kill our spirit but we still out here we still live trump 2020 on a gang y'all gotta say how working
Starting point is 02:05:51 I heard the play did you hear god fear and god oh here we go I love the second amendment y'all ready hello hey everyone thank you so much for tuning in to right side drop they go away from the rap concert to do a my pillow conversion wow wow guys guys you were supposed to get the uh you were supposed to get the version without the layer I just wanted the instrumental guys guys the instrumental it's rapping with me yeah it's it's rapping with me it's mostly the track I'm supposed to be what is this riff raff I'm supposed
Starting point is 02:07:18 to actually perform yeah one of the things that I found really interesting too is if you watch this video there's a guy who looks like Napoleon dynamite on stage wow gotta have him I don't know what this dude is doing I can't tell if he's with them and they're as a visual joke that he's dancing along with them or whatever or if he's like from some other outlet because he's like a stick might sure sure of course I don't I have no idea what's going on it's bewildering modern forest gump we're gonna find a movie about that guy 20 years from now and he's gonna be everywhere it's outrageous he will have inserted himself into the Vietnam war I can't tell you how like weird like obviously we're recording this on sunday and this was all happening on saturday
Starting point is 02:08:00 and so in order to make this really work it ended up like I had a really late night last night and so I'm like you know laid into the evening watching these banal speeches yeah and then hearing this lady being like we must chant Jesus name and then a rap concert break it out I was so amused by it yeah and the fact that the broadcast goes straight to a my pillow commercial in the middle of maybe the most energetic thing they had on their stage the entire time yep it just was kind of disrespectful to this very serviceable rapper Jesus Jesus Christ indeed that is that has got to be the most surreal night I can think of like to go that so just to ride that all the way through to like I mean see now if you were just watching one rally
Starting point is 02:08:52 no big deal sure that'll drive you nuts but you you listen to Alex Jones's yeah I have a high tolerance but you're watching seven straight hours of rallies at least seven straight hours of rallies on after a long day into the wee hours of the morning yep and at a certain point didn't you have to just have a complete break from reality I kind of did think at a certain point I was making up what was it feels like you that must have been that's how I would feel if you're telling me this happened it was surreal I can't imagine experiencing it by myself do you know what I mean yeah there there were a couple points where I thought like this is self parody yeah there's no way Mike Flynn's speech started with a my pillow it can't be why is this guy giving out my pillow
Starting point is 02:09:40 codes it can't be this is nonsense this cannot be as a thing it's it's so tough to like really put your hands on what this is yeah because it's simultaneously a terrifying display of different levels of explicitness about a desire to live in a Christian theocracy yeah you know it's not about standing up for your right to be able to practice your religion it's about enforcing your religious beliefs on the government yep making the government adhere to your religious beliefs at the expense of everyone else who does not share your beliefs you got it and that's terrifying horrifying because you have the you know the the Jericho march which is maybe you know obviously more up upfront about it yeah it's called the Jericho yeah yeah but it shares overlap in funding and speakers with
Starting point is 02:10:36 the same other march and quite honestly I think the people that I heard on the other march the women for Trump or women for America first there was more Christian nationalism probably on display there yeah now granted they didn't have someone like Leon Benjamin saying we got to kill the devil so our kids don't have there was that one there was a little bit more speak freely yeah going on over there really going on yes yeah yeah but I think I'm more scared of the women for America first rally honestly yeah yeah well because they're smart enough to not allow Alex there right it's it's it's gorgeous it's fascism packaged by coca-cola like it is it is so much in my pillow and well yeah I mean that's that like tying together of just base base commerce just fucking
Starting point is 02:11:25 promo code level commerce with fucking your ostensible belief system which we all know is complete bullshit if you if you think anything that those rallies had to do those rallies had zero to do with Christianity I agree zero it's a mask that's being worn 100% and one of the things that's really difficult is that like I don't I'm not saying that of everybody who's in the crowd again like I think that there's probably maybe some sincere and misled people who are there I don't know I can't I can't say yeah but I don't think that I can't imagine that the people who are putting this on are motivated by a sincere spirituality absolutely not it's very difficult for me to accept that and maybe it feels that way to them I'm not sure it's very difficult to judge
Starting point is 02:12:17 I'm I wrestle with this because it's something that's so intimate and personal within a within someone like true religious feelings yeah and it whenever you sort of criticize somebody about their sincerity or lack thereof it kind of comes off as if oh you think you have sincere beliefs no and I don't I don't want to get into that kind of an argument but this is gross here's here's the one I would say about that if your beliefs are sincere and you're looking for Christ and all that stuff um go read the way of the pilgrim and really really like meditate on Thessalonians and the idea of praying every day and every moment in what that actually means or you could go to a rally and try and overthrow a nation and kill a bunch of people
Starting point is 02:13:09 yeah in the difficulty that I have is the combination of both of these rallies being so explicitly like Christian nationalist in character so overt about it and both of them being so crass yeah like the the joke okay like we're laughing our asses off at all the my pillow stuff but like that's it both of these rallies yeah it's happening at both of them so fucked and the parody level of the like praying and chanting Jesus into a drunk guy introducing a rap act just like it's bizarre it's surreal and I don't know what to do with it but I do think that like Alex Jones got a lot of headlines out of crashing that Jericho March won and so it does come into our view and I think that one of the things that's important I I guess is to take what
Starting point is 02:14:04 we know about Alex and what we understand about that and glimpse the external world a little bit when there is a chance to yeah and quite honestly looking at these people some of whom I'm aware of some of whom I'm not who are chosen by these people who are organizing these rallies to give these speeches I don't see a lot of difference between what they're putting out there and what Alex does nope and that is not how I felt even like even when we look back at like 2009 yeah like even when the tea party was going on there were still substantive differences between the tea party and Alex Jones Alex was more severe yeah he may be more severe than some of these people and more extreme but like the these rallies I don't understand why except for bad press
Starting point is 02:14:53 they would not let Alex speak at both I don't know I don't I don't know I don't get why they have to parade around even at the Jericho March with the code and the code of like in the spirit of inclusion yeah you know like all that like go fuck yourself he's right on board with exactly which is he's doing what you're doing better yeah the idea that they are still allowed to like that was Alex's role for Fox News and and the Rush Limbaugh's and the Glenn Bex is for them to be like hey at least we're not like Alex Jones right they're all like that and they're still trying to act like by saying hey at least we're not Alex Jones in info wars we still get a we still get that difference you're not there's no difference there's no difference no well I mean so how dare
Starting point is 02:15:37 you act like you're too good for Alex if there is I'm mad on it I'm mad on his behalf don't feel that way I don't but but I think I think that you know I can see where that thought comes from yeah of course it largely comes from the reality that if you watch that rally you'll see a difference in competence from Alex and the rest of the speakers yep if the if the goal is to rile up this crowd god damn it does Alex do a better job than any of the rest of them no even in that point when he's like getting like not allowed on stage yeah he gets the crowd people are still chanting we love Alex yeah yeah totally gets on the bullhorn and yells 1776 you start chanting his name and that's how you fucking do it right you can do all this better than all of you but unfortunately his
Starting point is 02:16:25 brand is so toxic that no one even Ali Alexander wants to admit that he basically works for info wars no kidding so I mean it's kind of like I don't know I think that this kind of sums up what I think is one of the main problems who's had it with these fact checkers haven't you had it with these fact checkers that could almost be the big problem that that's probably a better way of putting it yeah I think I think when you cheer for fuck fact checkers who who's up with all this reality yeah who's who's up here with who's I'm sick of it I'm sick of it let's live in a dream world let's live in a dream world who wants to live in a dream world hey who likes to confirm things read a book the mind is the fear killer fear fear mind killer
Starting point is 02:17:15 yeah so I am I thought this was an interesting exploration a little bit sort of not not fully outside of our realm but sort of to the side of it a tiny bit sure and it bummed me out more than usual just because it's like oh all these people chanting and cheering and and and all these speakers sounding very similar to alex it's a it's a bummer and I think we have a very large problem in front of us that I do not know how to deal with yeah and I think that I think that it's important to recognize that the one of the one of the major problems is the blurring here of this is not political this isn't about politics this is not about policies this is this is something else altogether and trying to approach it from the standpoint of arguing or politics it's not
Starting point is 02:18:06 going to work it's it's absolutely not going to work here's my pitch all right now the I think one of the speakers did point out that the the nation was created and now he said it was created by god um and I would argue that it was created uh because of king george and the like uh and his ilk who's had it with these fact checkers all right but but maybe we should learn something from king george dan okay what I already dispute your premise because I hate fact checks what did king george do when or what did the king do when faced with uh puritans you know they were causing a ruckus and then he was like get the fuck out and then they all left yeah I know so we shoot him to the moon damn this seems too much like those uh mentalities that I find kind of noxious which
Starting point is 02:18:58 are the like I was being facetious about I was being facetious I know but even as a joke I don't really like it because it sounds so much like the you know you hear this rhetoric from Trump people you know you don't like Trump being your president get out you know you don't and I just don't think that's a good solution either sure I don't know I don't know it's uh it's it's a tough time to be in the middle of this because I don't really know how the ball breaks well steadfast tolerance of intolerance clearly isn't working no I would agree with that kicking people out uh that's not a great solution didn't work last time no violence doesn't work violence doesn't do it maybe we should try using like those so so it's like 2020 right and that means that before
Starting point is 02:19:42 for another couple weeks before 2020 there was like a bunch of years and humans and they've probably dealt with some shit like this before we should probably try smarts well I wish that I had this clip because actually uh really great general uh Michael Flynn you might have heard I've heard of him yeah in his speech he discusses how this has never happened in human history before it's never actually we can't learn anything from history I guess it's completely doing really it's really convenient how we can't know anything about this because so it's never happened before yep so unfortunately you're all the all those book learning idiots this has never happened before don't listen to them there are a bunch of dumb fact checkers fuck them fuck them
Starting point is 02:20:23 god damn it i got so I don't I don't know anyway um we'll be back on our next episode talking more specifically about Alex Jones but I I I don't know these rallies sucked he sucked anyway we'll be back but until then we have a website we do have a website it's knowledge fight dot com yep we're also on twitter we are on twitter tad now just as we're fighting now go to bed jordan we're all on facebook we are face will you tell us right if you could believe sunday local charity or bail fund in your area to help out people doing god's work yes we'll be back but until then i'm neo and leo i'm dzx clark i'm daryl rundis i am about to go buy a red sequin smoking jacket andy in chansas you're on the air thanks for holding so Alex i'm a first-time
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