Knowledge Fight - #520: January 12-13, 2021

Episode Date: January 15, 2021

Today, Dan and Jordan continue to track Alex Jones' sad march toward Joe Biden's inauguration. In this installment, Alex continues to make pre-emptive excuses in case right-wing extremists commit acts... of violence, and invites Steve Pieczenik onto the show to have a contentious back and forth.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys knowledge fight. I need money. Andy and Tanzas. Andy and Tanzas. Andy and Tanzas. Andy and Tanzas. It's time to pray. Andy and Tanzas. You're on the air. Thanks for holding. Hello, Alex. I'm a Christian. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. Knowledge fight. Knowledgefight.com. I love you. Hey, everybody. Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're couple dudes. I sit around, drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Oh, indeed. We are Dan. Jordan. Jordan. Quick question for you. What's your bright spot? I'm gonna need a second to think. Why don't you go for a second? My bright spot,
Starting point is 00:01:14 Dan, is my partner and I don't necessarily celebrate like a anniversary behind. Well, I believe that edible arrangements would beg to differ. No, that was for her birthday. Oh, birthday. Sorry. Sorry. That was that was twice for her birthday. Neither time on the birthday, but it has been four years in January. Congratulations. And for our relative anniversary time period, I bought her these. I bought her a bouquet of South African flowers, which she loves. She has no interest in like, hey, these are roses. She would have slapped me in the face. Sure, because I have never met her before. So I got her these and I got her this beautiful vase and she fucking loved it. And I feel like I crushed it. I even put it
Starting point is 00:02:04 on the scoreboard. I have one romance point nice to her zero right now. She's got shit to do. It's a tough year for for most people. It is. It is rough. Romance points are going to be tough to come by. It's good getting that one on the board right on the first of the year. Get it on the board. Nice. Move on. It feels really good. And she's very happy. And it, yeah, it was great. Awesome. Yeah. My bright spot, Jordan, a little more materialist, perhaps a little less romantic. We get this, that box of candy. Yes. And one of the things that was in it was velvet crumbles, which is a honeycomb candy. And that sounds more like a exotic dancer, but that's up to you. It's so good. I love it so much. I ordered more of it and I ate all of the stuff.
Starting point is 00:02:48 This is how the sea turtles when extinct dance, stop. Do you know what happened to the sea turtles? Too much velvet crumble. They ate them to death. They would go get them from a place, carry them on the ship because they stayed and they were watering and they did and they ate them all by the time they got there and they just kept doing it. And now they're gone. I was so close to ordering more and I have to stop myself because I'm just going to eat it all so fast. Yeah. It's so good. I love the crunchy bar, which is the sort of the, the, the honeycomb covered in chocolate thing that you can get. You could get it at like a treasure island grocery store here in Chicago. Yeah. Yeah. But it's so much better. The velvet crumble is so much better. God. Amazing. Stop
Starting point is 00:03:32 sending me candy. Yeah, you got, but I appreciate it. I appreciate it. I'm going to be 400 pounds, but I appreciate it. So, hey, Jordan, today we are talking about a little bit of stuff that has to do with Alex Jones. We're going to be talking about January 12th and 13th, 2021. I'm Dan. Here we go. Blackjack. Blackjack. 21. Oh, no. Damn it. No, that one doesn't work either. I'm Dan. This is 2021. Blackjack. Why not? I don't know. It's, there's no reason why not. It's something. It's not going to work, but it's something. So yeah, we, it's an interesting little stretch of time. Alex is trying to rationalize again, still the events of the sixth. Not my fault. Not my fault. Not my fault. Not my fault. Q's bad. A bunch of shit. Antifa did
Starting point is 00:04:33 stuff and now they're planning more attacks. Sure. Yeah. All of this. That sounds like us. Yes. It's kind of a little bit annoying, but at the end of this, we are going to have something remarkable happen. Okay. And I'm so excited about it that I want to get down to business. All right. Okay. But before we do, we got to take a moment to say thank you to folks who have signed up and are supporting the show. Oh, that's a great idea. So first, Soyboy Troy, thank you so much. You're an Al-Policy-Wonk. I'm a Policy-Wonk. Thank you very much, Soyboy Troy. Thank you. Next, I see spiders where there are none. Thank you so much. You're an Al-Policy-Wonk. I'm a Policy-Wonk. Thank you very much. A very troubled person. Thank you. Next, Stacey. Thank
Starting point is 00:05:10 you so much. You're an Al-Policy-Wonk. I'm a Policy-Wonk. Thanks, Spider Stacey. Thank you. Next, Jasper Jay. Thank you so much. You are now a Policy-Wonk. I'm a Policy-Wonk. Thanks, Jasper. Thank you. Next, not the Jesus Lizard. Thank you so much. You are now a Policy-Wonk. I'm a Policy-Wonk. Thank you very much. Not the Jesus Lizard. And finally, like I say, thank you to somebody who donated on an elevated level. I appreciate that very much. So Isaac, progeny of sin. Thank you so much. You are now a technocrat. I'm a Policy-Wonk. Crocky, mate. That's fantastic. Have yourself a brew. How's your 401k doing, bro? We got to go full tilt boogie on this Watson. All right. Let's just get down to business. We ain't making that money
Starting point is 00:05:46 off that heroin. Why are you pimp so good? My neck is freakishly large. I declare info war on you. Thank you so much. Isaac, progeny of sin. Yes. Thank you very much. But aren't we all progeny of sin? I believe Alex believes that. Yes, indeed. It's in the Bible. We are all born out of the first sin. Indeed. So also, I wanted to say to folks, thank you all who support the show. We are incredibly behind on shout outs to the point where if you have not heard us give you a shout out, please send a message to us and we will get to get that in. I don't know. You hear how many we do up top. You don't want to hear 30 of those, right? It's an impossible situation. We want to do everybody, but ah. It's a bit and a structure that is really effective when no one's listening.
Starting point is 00:06:39 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We loved it. Yeah. Yeah. And now it's impossible. Now we still love it, but it makes us feel sad too. And yeah. And I don't want anyone to feel left out or uncared for. So if you have a funny alias, you'd like us to send a message and we'll get that taken care of. Or if you have a timely, timely joke. Oh, sure. Yeah. Yeah. Also, Jordan, this is very exciting. What was that? Now granted, today is Friday when this will be coming out. But on Sunday, the 17th, something very special is happening. Oh, yeah. We'd like to give a preemptive shout out for that. And that is a couple of wonks. Eric and Michelle are celebrating their second anniversary. Oh, hey! Happy anniversary to the two of you. Yes, indeed. Got a very nice message. Very cute about them enjoying the show
Starting point is 00:07:30 and Eric doing an Alex Jones voice to say sweet things. And it's great. Happy anniversary to you too. Hope you have a great one this weekend and all the best. I don't know how you could say sweet. You have a lovely figure. No, that doesn't sound right. No, it doesn't sound good. I love you. Yeah. That doesn't sound real. Yeah. Okay. So Jordan, let's get down to business. Let's do it. 12th and 13th coming right at you. But first, here's an out of context drop from today's show. I'm a little plant that just opens up my petals and says, I love you. See, isn't that sweet? That is sweet. That is sweet. I'm just a little plant. I do like to imagine Alex as a Georgia O'Keeft. That's why I open up my petals and I say, I love you. Welcome you into my secret garden.
Starting point is 00:08:20 So on the 12th, Alex is jumping in. He's starting the show, Predicting Violence. Sure. And it's because of the CIA. They're running QAnon. Trump has declared a national emergency, a particular martial law emergency in D.C. They have manipulated right wing forces being programmed through the Q army to launch attacks this weekend across the United States. So Joe Biden can bring in martial law. Trump is calling for calm and peace and saying, do not be part of this. But the CIA Q operatives are telling you that's not really Trump's plan prepared to launch your attacks. So yeah, I mean, I would say that if your argument is that Q is like this operation to make Trump supporters look bad, you should have been really aggressively
Starting point is 00:09:06 going after them long ago because they were making Trump supporters look bad for quite a while. See, it wasn't hard. No, I would. I would argue that we didn't have to do anything to make them look bad. No. So I think that this is all like basically the preemptive stuff where Alex has a really good sense that there may be some violence. There might be some acts of domestic terrorism. I'm friends with Stuart Rhodes. Exactly. Who's still conspicuous in his absence on the show. Yeah. So you got to preemptively explain these things. You got to you got to make sure that the audience has a ready to go justification for why, like, this isn't a sign that our world is fucked. Right. Our information sphere. You also have to text Stuart Rhodes and let him know that
Starting point is 00:09:46 you're still on his team and you're just running interference for him so he can commit the violence that he wants to. Don't worry, Stuart. I'm still scared of you. Look, this is a smart move for all of us for me to say that you're a bad. Yeah. Yeah. So what's going on is that there's a globalist revolution that's happening and it's, you know, CIA running QAnon in order to precipitate this violence that will lead to the globalist staking over or something. All right. And did you know that that's all in the Bible? Yes. We're in the midst of a global new world order revolution against humanity. And this has been foretold whether you believe in God or whatever it is our psychic vision
Starting point is 00:10:31 of the future, because the future is the only two options. It's all a space time continuum. You can move up and down. We saw this psychically coming. We were warned thousands of years ago. And you're not just by John on the Isle of Patmos. Yeah. So time. All right. Back and forth. Okay. And so John on Patmos psychically right. Saw into the future. Sure. To see Trump losing. Yeah. You know, I always thought of time as being more like a singularity existing at all times simultaneously. Now, I didn't know you can go up and down and back and forth. All right. Well, that'll be fun. Yeah. And then John, of course, in Revelation, you could see all the signs that he was talking about Trump. Yeah. This is disgraceful. This is sacrilegious.
Starting point is 00:11:23 And the third seal was opened and its name was Medicare for all. I am not religious. I don't care to be offended on religions behalf, but this is sacrilegious. Yeah, that no, no, no, that's super bad. But I am going to be offended by this. Alex starts talking about how he's what the enemy fears. And then then he he starts playing on my side of the street. And I am that thing. The enemy fears. I am. And it doesn't want us to declare that. And so are you the thing that should not be someday maybe even death would die. To quote Lovecraft. Oh, no. Oh, no. So I kind of agree that Alex is what the enemy fears, but not because he has any kind of competence or is a force of truth or any of that shit. No,
Starting point is 00:12:16 he's with the enemy fears in the same way that a parent would fear a charismatic weirdo trying to convince their four year old child that fire can't hurt them. They aren't scared that the kid will see through the bullshit of the mainstream media's propaganda about fire being dangerous. They're worried that this negative and insane influence will lead to the harm of people they care about. Fire can't hurt you. I have candy in my van. Let's go. As for the Lovecraft reference, of course, Alex goes with that one. He's such a 101 dude. So of course he's going to throw out something from Call of Cthulhu. So this thing that he's misusing and misciting is part of a much puzzled over passage from the Necronomicon that is referenced in the story that goes like
Starting point is 00:12:55 this. That is not dead, which can eternal lie. And with strange eons, even death may die. One of the chapters in that story, the Call of Cthulhu, is the tale of Inspector LaGrosse, where you hear about a cop who discovered a group of cultists performing a ceremony and chanting thing Louis Mignagoth, Cthulhu Rilié Mignagoth. Beautiful language. It's meant to be unpronounceable by human tongue. Well, naturally. This phrase loosely translates to, quote, in his house in Rilié, dead Cthulhu waits dreaming. One of the cultists who LaGrosse interrogates, Old Castro, you mentioned that the passage from the Necronomicon helps give some context to their chant. So the reader can piece together that they worship a dormant God
Starting point is 00:13:41 who's in this place waiting and dreaming, and this God will never die. It has a lifespan longer than death itself. Gotcha. Anyway, the point here is that this phrase has nothing to do with what Alex is talking about. No, that's not about death dying really at all. I know that he thinks that he's really cool, and that most of his points of reference are various sci-fi things he barely remembers, but this is a little bit silly. For one thing, Alex should not compare himself to Cthulhu. Cthulhu did not want to follow the Constitution and protect the Second Amendment. It's really clear in the text what Cthulhu was interested in. What's that? Quote, those first men formed the cult around small idols, which the great ones showed them.
Starting point is 00:14:18 Idols brought in dim areas from dark stars. That cult would never die until the stars came right again, and the secret priests would take great Cthulhu from his tomb to revive his subject and resume his rule of earth. The time would be easy to know, for then mankind would become like the great old ones, free and wild and beyond good and evil, with laws and morals thrown aside, and all men shouting and killing and reveling in joy. Oh, so Alex is a lot like. Then the liberated old ones would teach them new ways to shout and kill and revel and enjoy themselves, and all of earth would flame with holocaust of ecstasy and freedom. Alex and the Lovecraft have nothing in common except that they were both racists. The difference
Starting point is 00:14:58 between them is that Lovecraft got less racist as his career progressed. That's true. That is true. Anyway, I just don't like it when Alex references something that I know a bit about. Don't walk into Lovecraft. No, come on, man. Alex shouldn't be in Lovecraft. I understand. It's not for him. That like death may die is a kind of cool saying, but in context, it makes no sense for what he's talking about. No, I mean, it was a poetic way of saying he's fucking old and we're going to die before he does. It's very simple. Well, and that that would that is not dead, which may eternal lie is basically saying that he's just gone dormant. He's not dead. No, he's been sleeping for centuries under under in really a yeah. Why? Hmm? I mean, why? Because the stars weren't right for him to
Starting point is 00:15:39 come back and re reign and terror on earth. I never like the arbitrary rules that are given to the old ones or this the devil or all of these things. Man, if you want to create ultimate evil buddy, well, all that's fiction. Fair. So that's fine. Alex making up arbitrary rules for the devil in the real world. That's a little bit worse, a little bit silly. Yeah. So anyway, Alex was in DC over the period of time when the the storming of the Capitol happened and we're getting a new piece of reporting here. Do you mean when Antifa caused all of our troubles forever? According to Alex. Yes. Yeah, but also according to Alex, he almost got swept up. They planned to swat team me in DC and blame me for what happened, but that didn't go the way they wanted
Starting point is 00:16:27 because the police refused to do it. We confirmed that hell. I saw it happen. But I'll be honest, I was so exhausted and had just eaten a big meal on Thursday afternoon and under stress, drank a half bottle of vodka. So what I didn't didn't even care when 100 police cars came for me. I mean, I haven't even told you this whole story yet, ladies and gentlemen, but I will tell you all of it. I haven't figured out the beats on this one yet. Yeah. I've got a workshop and a couple of open mics before I can really start using this one in shows. Yeah. I drank half a bottle of vodka and I had a big meal. So I was like, I don't even give a shit that there's 100 police cars coming to squat team me. What are you talking about? I think maybe the reason that they were
Starting point is 00:17:08 going to take me out and blame me for storming the Capitol, but then the police wouldn't go along with go fuck yourself. I'm going to go with the police didn't arrest you because you were right out at the tip of the spear yelling run away, run away. We can't do this. This is bad. Yeah. Yeah. So we get this kind of speech from Alex pretty regularly. It's a, it's that speech where he is like, aha, now I see everything. Sure. Now all has become clear to me, but I now see the entire picture more than ever. I mean, every damn piece of the puzzle, I can zoom in to almost the subatomic level. I can see the matrix and I know what their next moves are. I know how to stop them. I know what's unfolding and I understand how I underestimated Q. Q is 100% globalist intelligence, 100% what's
Starting point is 00:17:57 left to the U S government. And it hates Trump and hates America and it's planning a giant violent uprising to bring down the country. That doesn't mean you're bad. If you were part of it or use the movement to educate people, you're not Q. That's what made you pledge allegiance to it. So it can round you up. They're planning truck moms, mass shootings, bombings of capitals all over. I told you that Sunday from DC police and the FBI. So this is again, how he's preemptively constructing this narrative just in case there's bombings and stuff that are done by Trump supporters. And you know, at least Alex is on the surface telling his audience not to be violent. Right. And there are some, I mean, I guess it's better than the alternative in some ways, but it's too little,
Starting point is 00:18:39 too late. And it's meaningless. They stole the election. They're discredited. They're a fraud. So they need violence. Don't be part of it. It's a lie. It's a setup. And we now know the lie. We now know the setup. We know every angle of it. And by the grace of God, we're still on air for this moment, dug in hard when everybody else is being shut down because we'd already been persecuted first. We knew the mission and it's all the Holy Spirit, the divine transmission I am receiving. And I just opened myself up to receive the transmission and give it as clearly as I can. This is not me. I'm telling you, I'm going to give you the transmission straight ahead. Stay with us. So I mean, this show isn't Alex. It's God speaking through him.
Starting point is 00:19:25 Yeah, which is fun. Yeah, that's not good. Also, it's not a surprise to hear Alex insisting that people shouldn't be violent. And the reason for that is pretty obvious. Alex knows that there's a large enough population of people who are completely fried and disconnected from reality who are going to be disillusioned by the non fulfillment of all their promised fantasies that they might turn to violence. He's obviously not responsible for all of it. But Alex's rhetoric has absolutely been a contributing factor to getting us to the dangerous situation we're now in. And he knows that. Yeah, when your allies storm the capital and you make your money encouraging people to do things like storm capitals, but you don't want them to actually do it,
Starting point is 00:20:00 you have a few immediate priorities. The first is to come up with a framework to allow your audience to pretend that the actual storming doesn't involve you or anyone like you. This is achieved by blaming Antifa. In this case, there's the unfortunate aspect of the story where a bunch of the people who stormed the capital are public figures and have been very clear that they were doing it for Trump. There's also a bunch of people involved who don't match your characterization of Antifa at all. So to get around that objection, Alex is thrown Q under the bus, which is probably going to be persuasive to some portion of his audience. Totally. The next most important thing you have to do is what you're seeing right now. If you're Alex, you know damn well that this is
Starting point is 00:20:37 not going to be a one off event. Alex has been friends with Stuart Rhodes for years now. He knows the kind of insurrectionist threats that dude makes, and he's supposed to be the public face for the oath keepers. No kidding. Imagine who's underneath that. Oh, I think we should kill everybody. And as you're subordinate, I would like to follow up with your next. Yeah. I mean, Stuart Rhodes is the PR guy and he's talking about like rounding people up. Shit. Yeah. Alex knows there's going to be more attacks. So it's super important for him to create a preemptive narrative to explain them when they eventually happen. This is achieved by more throwing Q under the bus. If in the next few weeks, you see instances of domestic terrorism and the people
Starting point is 00:21:17 who carried it out appear to be Trump supporters. Now Alex can fall back on saying they aren't really Trump supporters. They're people who are misled by the insidious globalist Psyop that is QAnon. Psyop. They're specifically running to make people like Alex and Trump Patriots look bad. This is all very transparent and stupid, but it's crucial for Alex. If he wants to continue to be able to justify his behavior in the face of the inevitable consequences of his behavior coming to pass while he needs to be against the inevitable consequences to stay on air, make money and not get arrested. Correct. I believe that this is a very teachable moment. In the aftermath of the storm in the Capitol, I believe that you can see a very clear distinction between people who mean
Starting point is 00:21:56 what they say and people who are primarily scammers. People who really mean it are still calling for right wingers to show up in DC on January 20th. People who really mean it are like the Q shaman, insisting that he was proud of his actions on the 6th. People who really mean it are even like Alex's boring intern Harrison Smith, reporting that the Capitol had fallen and the Patriots were in control as the events of the 6th transpire. Conversely, Alex is a scammer. He has a very profitable grift that depends on tension to continue. And in order for that tension to exist, he has to operate in some dissonant ways. For instance, if you believe the things he says on his show, here's what will happen if Biden gets into office. The literal Christian devil will
Starting point is 00:22:37 rule America. Christianity will be outlawed. Everyone will be forced to get vaccines that will put tracking chips in them and kill them. Antifa Goon squads will roam door to door, killing conservatives as they die of the vaccines. And Alex will be one of the few to survive long enough to kill his neighbor and feed them to his daughter. Don't forget, Daleks with guns. Sure, that's somewhere in the middle. That's assumed. Yeah. Yeah. If he actually believed those things in any way, he would not be opposed to insurrection immediately. If I believe those things, the only reasonable response is insurrection. Yeah, there's no time to wait because this is a fight with the devil. If this were just about policy, then sure, you can accept a Biden presidency where you
Starting point is 00:23:15 try to lobby conservative Congress members to push for policies you'd like to see. But all that shit doesn't matter if you believe Alex. If Biden gets into office, there's no policy discussions. There will never be fair elections again in the future. Yeah. If you believe Alex, then this election itself was stolen, which has supposedly already been proven. If you believe that and you believe the futility of any action you could possibly take once Biden gets into office, then it's a natural conclusion to decide that you need to do whatever you can before he gets into office to stop that from happening. Totally. This is the inherent dissonance Alex's non-violence position brings up. He expects his audience to believe him. But if they actually do, the only
Starting point is 00:23:55 conclusion they can come to is exactly the conclusion that the people who stormed the Capitol on the sixth did. He's basically made an argument to his audience where he demands that they definitively accept that he has proven every one of the premises in his arguments. But hey, man, I don't want to take responsibility for you. Yeah. The conclusion. Yeah. Look, I can see through the matrix and I can see that your death is imminent and what I would like you to do is nothing. Well, or you could give me money to. Yeah. I mean, are you still on social media? Yeah. Put out a link. Put out a link to my content. Put out a link to Bandot video. That'll do it. This is how we will crush the globalists. How we defeat Satan himself. Yeah. You understand,
Starting point is 00:24:34 like this is this is nonsensical. This this this kind of behavior. Yeah. Anyway, here we go again. Yeah. It's a good thing nobody will face consequences for this type of behavior, though. That's that's really heartening to know. Yeah. So we get the narrative of the sixth just being laid out. And I think Alex has pretty much found his his final version of it. I mean, all this allowed on these message boards, all this prepared, and it was meant to be a giant, insane rampage, handcuffing, killing members of Congress, your lockdowns led by Antifoes, the shock force, all in unison. But the Patriots fought back and tackled them and helped the police. So finally they had to wow police stand down to let them in
Starting point is 00:25:19 and the guy to get the order commit suicide conveniently. I mean, this is serious. So this didn't work. So now they need 2.0. That's the Saturday and Sunday. They're now saying we're going to attack. It's the storm. If I were officer Lieben Goods family, I would definitely sue Alex Jones for defamation immediately. He's reporting on air that their loved one ordered to stand down as part of a seditious conspiracy to storm the Capitol, which Alex can absolutely not prove and is just making up and then either killed himself or was killed to cover it up. Yeah. Yeah. Whenever there's something that the police should have stopped, but don't it's important for Alex to pretend that some nefarious force ordered to
Starting point is 00:25:57 stand down to allow it to happen as opposed to them just being a Nazi too. Well, yeah. I mean, every single time there's been right wing violence at a rally or a protest, it's because of a police stand down that Alex aggressively asserts was ordered, but then he never proves it. And again, the argument on the other side is they seem to turn a blind eye a lot of the time when there's these, yeah, these hard right extreme protests more than I think the Guardian just had something out that everyone already knew, which is that police are meaner to the left. Yeah. Yeah. In the case of the storming of the Capitol, it's additionally disgusting and offensive that Alex has decided to just pretend that a man who died by suicide was actually secretly killed. So he
Starting point is 00:26:35 couldn't reveal who had ordered him to order the stand down. Yeah. As far as I can tell, Officer Liebinger isn't someone who would have been in a position to make orders that the Capitol police would follow. It's not like he was the chief or even in the executive department of the Capitol police. So I can't imagine that he would have been someone who could have unilaterally acted in the manner that Alex is claiming. It goes higher. This isn't based on anything other than the fact that this man is now dead. Yep. The fact that he's dead makes him a useful prop for Alex to use in creating this conspiracy, because it creates a dead end. We could figure out who orchestrated this whole setup, but the guy's dead now. So he can't reveal that information,
Starting point is 00:27:10 which obviously would prove Alex right. Totally. The guy is a thing to Alex, not a person. And I find that disgusting. Yeah. And he should be sued. It really should. We're at the point now where it's like, if Alex does this, I'm almost sending a message immediately like, hey, this can't happen. And unfortunately, you're the only person with grounds. I would love to sue him on like, the world should work like this, but apparently the law doesn't count. So disgusting. Yeah. So disgusting. The law won't just be like, hey, you know what? You're right. He's bad for humanity. So humanity has grounds. I certainly hope that this officer's family isn't dealing with any kind of harassment from folks who believe the sort of things that Alex is disseminating,
Starting point is 00:27:54 but based on the past and actions of Alex's audience, if they haven't yet, they will. Doesn't seem too unbelievable to think that it might be happening. No, absolutely not. Anyway, Alex fancies himself, peaceful kind of protestor guy. He wants a peaceful revolution, kind of like Martin Luther King, right? No, Martin Luther King. Did black folks running around murder and killing white people ever get them freed? No, because most whites didn't know slaves. 98% didn't. But when folks saying Christian hymns and they watched them get their heads beat in, white people like my grandparents and their parents said, this is BS, man. We're not bullies. We're not doing this anymore. We're Christians.
Starting point is 00:28:39 That is a fucked up sentence. I don't understand the timeline. I don't know what's going on. Oh, boy. So apparently Alex's grandparents saw black people sing a Christian hymns. They decided we're not doing that anymore. Confederate royalty. What does that mean, though? Like we're not going to be racist anymore? No, I think they're not going. I guess they were all the ones who had the fire hoses. I guess they were the they were. Alex's whole family was holding fire hoses and they were like, Oh, I get it. They're singing. Yeah. Also, I know that Alex loves to trot out this idea that he respects Martin Luther King and his non violence. And that's all good and well. It's the standard line that you hear from people on the right these days. But I wanted to discuss
Starting point is 00:29:16 how out of touch he is with his own intellectual tradition. Most of Alex's ideas are just reheated John Birch Society talking points that have, you know, they have their underpinnings of Patriot lore for the last generations. His favorite book, the one that woke him up to the New World Order, of course, is none dare call a conspiracy by Gary Allen. Interestingly, Gary Allen didn't just write one book. His first book is called Communist Revolution in the Streets, which is all about how the civil rights movement is actually secretly a communist front. It sounds like a better dance party, though. The book was published by Western Islands, which is the John Birch Society publishing imprint. And it has a forward written by W. Cleon Scousen, another of Alex's heroes and the uncle
Starting point is 00:29:57 of his regular info wars guest Joel Scousen. The book has a slightly different take on Martin Luther King and goes out of its way to suggest that he was a violent revolutionary who only said things about non violence to appear acceptable in public. In a caption on a picture of Martin Luther King on page one of this book, Allen writes quote, although King talks non violence, many of his alliances are formed with Negro leaders who advocate violence and give the movement its quality of revolution. Jesus. This is an important idea of the anti communists that the entirety of the civil rights movement was a communist facade, and that Martin Luther King was essentially there to trick white people into thinking it was a peaceful revolution. From page two, quote, King closed his
Starting point is 00:30:38 talk by declaring that of course he meant this should be done non violently. Many in the crowd laughed openly. They felt the term non violence was a sham and was being used by King primarily for public relations reasons. Sure. Whether Alex knows it or understands it is irrelevant. What matters is that the system that he supports and all of his intellectual influences who molded his beliefs when he was young were deeply racist people who had a particular hatred of Martin Luther King, not because he was violent, but because he was Christian and sang hymns. Yeah. I guess what I'm getting at is that Alex Jones is a coward. He's not even willing to live his beliefs the way his forefathers would have totally. He knows that it looks pretty racist to be opposed
Starting point is 00:31:16 to Martin Luther King these days. So he just conveniently pretends that that's not part of his big worldview. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, for someone to talk about cops standing down in the face of something and then to talk about Martin Luther King Jr. very shortly afterwards is someone who does not know anything about Martin Luther King Jr. It's another little interesting element of dissonance. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's like it's like somebody being like, Hey, my my dad was in the FBI and you know, when they murdered Fred Hampton, he was like, that was one too many bullets for me. I'm going to choose the path of peace from here on out. Yeah. Yeah. Fuck off. Something that I find so fascinating is like how much Alex wants to live
Starting point is 00:32:00 in the shadow of these anti-communist heroes and like it's so his worldview. All of this is, but he refuses to take ownership of these things that he knows are like, absolutely. I can't say that. Yeah. I can't. I can't be against the Civil Rights Act. You know, it's it's one of those things where it's like you can see how bankrupt their ideology is over time because they just abandoned shit after it. You know, like, Oh, I don't know if they abandoned it. They just refused to accept it publicly. Well, yeah. Well, I mean, yeah, I mean, that like Martin Luther King Jr. is so fucking revered that the right has to now use him to try and reinstitute slavery. But they can't like, I would can't ignore it or say he's a bad guy. They have to be like,
Starting point is 00:32:44 he's such a great guy. He would have wanted us to own you again. I'm sorry. I would bet that if you got Alex drunk enough, you would talk about how he's a commie. Oh, totally. I'm sure. He was a copy. Anyway, there's truck bombs coming. But also Alex says you all got to go to your capitol. Sure. They're going to set off truck bombs in major cities this weekend or next week. That's their plan. I told you it's coming. You already saw it. Did Stewart do it? They're going to stage mass shootings and they're going to put it all over the news and say you did it. Why would we do it? We want I will be out at the Capitol this weekend, but not with guns. I knew this was all coming. I'll be in an armored vehicle.
Starting point is 00:33:26 And I'm going to be documenting who did what and what happened, but I can't be in all 50 Capitals. So go out there, pray to Jesus, have your video camera and document every person. Oh, you don't want to do that. Isn't it kind of contradictory or maybe just unwise to tell your audience like, Hey, they're going to be bombing a bunch of shit. So everybody go to your capitals. Sure. Yeah. Now I'll be fine because I'm in a tank. Yeah, you guys are going to get some shrapnel. I am fairly certain fucked up. That's not good. If he's saying that there's going to be like staging of some mass shootings and bombings, I would say for the protection of your audience, stay home. Hey, listen, they're going to blow everybody up and they're going to
Starting point is 00:34:06 be killing you left and right. And that's why you got to go with a camera. That seems seems seems weird. No, it's bad. Anyway, there were some just be in my tank looking like the people that I'm supposed to tell you are Antifa. Sure. Yeah. There were some people who are not Antifa actually who were involved on the sixth. No, these are the people who placed bombs. No, that's not there were a couple of pipe bombs. Antiva. No, turns out Alex does know who they are though. Oh, you can't miss these Antifa. You can't miss. You'll see Chinese state party people like the guy that planted the pipe bombs they just showed. You'll see Chinese agents. They'll all be wearing masks. You'll see Antifa wearing black that were pink bandanas and signifiers.
Starting point is 00:34:48 And then guys in camo covering their faces with the backpacks as well. They are deep state mercs. Dinecore, Halliburton. You name it, they're making a full move on us. Alex is making all of that up. There is nothing real about any of that. You know what is boggling my mind? What's that? Is that he literally did say it? And it is true. They were planning on taking hostages and assassinating members of Congress. Yes. That was a real. Well, that's something that sounds like a conspiracy theory, Dan. Yeah. Well, it's something that is being discussed. Certainly there are people who have some suspicions that that is that was the plan. There are indications of that. Hard not to learn more and think, oh, shit, that's and they had members of Congress helping
Starting point is 00:35:37 them. That's not good. Alex said Alex is definitely of the mind in terms of reporting that it was supposed to be way worse. Yeah. Yeah. And that might be that might be the case. I think there's a lot of details that are yet to be solidly understood, but some of the indications are really, really terrifying. Yeah. So, you know, there's there's some issues between Alex and Q. I think that there's some strange stuff like why didn't you do this earlier? No, no, no. If you like, oh, it took you years to get to the point where you realized it was actually the deep state. No, remember only two years ago when he said he could see through the matrix and saw their plan and knew what was happening. Yeah, like on a he could read the code on a
Starting point is 00:36:25 granular scale. Yeah. Well, it turns out now he understands all of it and now he sees why Q Anon attacked him in the early stages. I'm just going to throw this out there. Damn. If he said the same thing two years ago and got everything wrong. Okay. Why would I then trust him now when he says that? Because you've forgotten that he said all that stuff. Oh, that's wise. I wish I could do that. Yeah. Oh, unfortunately not. But Q attacked Alex early on. And here's why. Okay. This isn't my opinion. We know where this is going. We know why Q attacked me early on because Q figured out I would figure out what it was. Four years later. And I know U.S. intelligence was involved in it. It was even started under orders by some campaign officials
Starting point is 00:37:13 of the Trump out operation. They said, oh, let's do this so we can put out information like Jones puts out against Hillary and the rest of them. But so nobody gets sued. But it was instantly taken away in three weeks by the group that tricked the Trump campaign people to authorize it. I don't believe any of this stuff. But if it is true, that seems insanely illegal. Uh, yeah, that seems also again, the Trump was officially running Q Anon at the beginning is his administration. Why do you keep telling me how shitty your God King is at doing this? It took three weeks to steal the greatest fucking conspiracy from the government. That's all it took. It took three weeks. And how? What did they change the password and put two step notification? What? What are we doing here? Oh,
Starting point is 00:38:00 isn't that easy? And if that's the case, right, and all this happened at three weeks in, it got commandeered by these nefarious people, wouldn't it be in the best interest of the Trump campaign to like really make sure that people understood that this was something that was a malevolent force so it didn't end up becoming such a huge part of the Trump base or at the very least, utilizing the vast resources of the United States government to take that back. Oh yeah, they could do that. Oh, okay. Here's what happened in three weeks. They stole our access to Q. So then about an hour later, we stole it back. It's not hard. We're the government. Yeah. So that's dumb. I do love the idea though. They're like, they attacked because they knew I was
Starting point is 00:38:44 the only person who could get to the bottom of it. God damn it. Yeah. The only person. Greatest detective. The only person besides everyone else. God, I hate him. So involving the six, there's some other things that are starting to come to light that are a little bit problematic for Alex's narrative, namely that there seem to be a lot of proud boys who are around the Capitol. And sometimes, you know, there's some indications that even some of the proud boys might have been there right at the get going, getting going part. And so now Alex might have to say some bad things about the proud boys. And I'm very close to revealing information. I just want to be 100% accurate when I do it. I'm about 95% right now that a major Patriot group was infiltrated ahead
Starting point is 00:39:29 of this event. Their leader was arrested so that a globalist fed could be put in charge of it. So they could also be part of it. I know the FBI knows it because they were in command of it. So that has to be the proud boys. Yeah. Yeah. Because Enrique Tarrio got arrested right before. Yeah. And he's the leader of the proud boys. But what didn't Joe Biggs become the leader of the proud boys? Yeah. Yeah. But he's a fed. Yeah. This I like. This is the way these, this is the way these gangs die. Formerly for his employee Joe Biggs. Exactly. Whenever they decide that some of them are working against them and they tear themselves apart. That's, that's the good news here. Yeah. That's what I'm hearing. Tear each other apart. Like the
Starting point is 00:40:16 wolves and idiots you are. Yeah. Yeah. The proud boys acted in ways that are counter to the scam narrative that I need to keep my money coming in. So well, I guess they actually got infiltrated. I just hate how often I said before this all happened, guys, they're gonna abandon you the moment you do something that they don't like. Yes. They don't have any loyalty to you. None. You can't trust them. That's how these things work. Yeah. And to see the ways that like, I mean, it's hard to have too much pity for someone like the Q shaman, but see the way that community interacted with him after the fact and tried to say like, ah, a lot of suspicions about it. Like, that's so indicative of that. Like they will just, you're done. Yeah. I did everything that you guys
Starting point is 00:41:05 told me to do. I became the hero that you guys needed and now you've abandoned me. How could anyone have predicted this? Yeah. Yeah. So on this episode, Alex is really like acting in a lot of ways that I think are bad because as we discussed earlier, like if you take him seriously and you believe the things he's saying, you know, he's saying that they're going to kill you. Yeah. They're coming to kill you. Yeah. And he just in your home, he keeps banging that drum. They want to rape you in a death camp. They want to inoculate you and watch you have a convulsion. They want to kill you. They love hurting you. They're coming. They're coming. They're coming. There's nothing you can do except face reality. Facing reality is how we beat them. We have cancer. We have a
Starting point is 00:41:47 satanic cancer. Hitler was just a beta test. You are under attack. They're never going to stop. They are you are that energy. Look at them. They're race. Look at Schumer. Look at Pelosi. They're dead humans. They're globalist. These are race. These are not human. They're coming. They need your brains. They need your soul. They don't have it. They want to destroy you. They want to bring you down. They want to annihilate you. They love Chinese death camps. Apple loves it. They all love it. They're all turned over to evil. They're under Satan's control. I mean, and that's why you need to stay at home and write your Congress person nonviolent and send letters and just be aware. Yeah. That's why you need to go put up info wars bumper stickers and buy colloidal iodine.
Starting point is 00:42:33 Go fuck yourself, man. So Alex is saying, here's what you need. When they come to your home, knock on your door. Because they need your brains to kill you. Well, they need your brains. I knew you guys were coming and they're like, no, how? And then they leave. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. You flash your info wars bumper sticker and it's like garlic to a Dracula. Yeah. So Alex has a has a real interesting relationship with the events of the sixth on the storming. And I've noticed a little thing that he's starting to talk about more or starting to bring up. And I think that one of his primary concerns is that they planned it poorly. And we just keep putting up with it and putting up with it. You're like, well, then let's get violent.
Starting point is 00:43:18 They are controlling the dumbest violent elements to make sure that it's all coordinated wrong. You don't see Q saying, go to Jenny Schumer's house or go to Obama's house or where they're at. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, it's attacked the Capitol right on the right day. That's kind of fucked up. Yeah. I mean, he's probably not wrong, though. But but like if you planned it better and you succeed and you fuck everything up, then Trump takes power, says that it's all actually in Tifa gets the military on his side, starts fucking everybody up who isn't a proud boy or whatever. But instead they did it poorly. So here we are. Maybe. I mean, it's hard to play what if games. Right. Right. Right. But it
Starting point is 00:44:04 shouldn't be that Alex is like, wow, man, they plan that shit poorly. Well, yeah, he's supposed to be opposed to all of this. Right. Right. That's what he's trying to present as much as they got tricked. QAnon and Antifa did the storm. He's supposed to be against it as a whole. He just wanted to go talk on the other side of the building where he had a permit. Oh, no. If they had won, he's 100 percent for it. I mean, we know that. But like those little indications, those little moments where he's like, it's poorly planned and they didn't go to soft targets. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Fucked up. Yep. Jesus. Now you might think, let me ask you a question. Sure, Dan. If Alex Jones sees a guy who punches him. No, wait. Oh, sorry. You didn't finish
Starting point is 00:44:53 it. He sees a guy who's got like a really hot wife. Punches it. I'm sorry. Never mind. Do you think that he's jealous of that guy? Absolutely. Will he say so? No. Well, actually he will by going on a long-winded rant about how he's not. See, I can see some dude with this incredibly gorgeous wife and I'm just like admiring a horse or something. And I'm not saying a man like a horse to him. I put the woman down. It's like, that's an incredible thing. Wow. I'm just glad you're having sex with that and having kids. This makes me feel good for humanity. I look at some, you know, but the average man I've learned just is envious of everything. That's weird. That is a weird thing to say. Yeah. That's a weird thing. I see someone with a hot spouse and I'm like,
Starting point is 00:45:36 I'm so glad you get to fuck that. I'm in my head. I was waiting for him to say something about miscegenation. Like that's the level of fucked up. I'm operating it. That person's attractive. You get to fuck them and have kids. Jesus. I look at that like a horse. This is not just a horse. This is not just a very weird way for me to still experience jealousy. Yeah. Jesus. Anyway, Alex has a guest on. This is interesting because this person has basically been shouting QAnon stuff into the wind for weeks. Yeah. But Alex pretends that's not the case. Patrick Byrne is a really smart fellow. He's written an article we'll put on screen and tell you about where there's a peaceful way out of this violent stalemate we're in. Yeah. Patrick Byrne
Starting point is 00:46:24 is the former CEO of Overstock who's been yelling a bunch of QAnon nonsense. Yeah. Didn't we hear him say QAnon nonsense on the six? Oh, yeah. Yeah. I don't know if it was on the six, but yeah, he's or the rally before that. Yeah. That one right before that. The one episode where we covered the rallies. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So he is wants Patrick wants to tell you that if you're violent, you're just helping Nancy Pelosi. If our side goes out there and goes violent, what you are doing is A, you're losing middle America. They will not support you and B, 20% of America will support. And then the other thing is you're giving Nancy Pelosi all she needs to basically she wants to have a law passed that makes it illegal to be Republican. And they're
Starting point is 00:47:09 going to do that if you go out and get violent. Oh, yeah. This is real persecution. They keep talking like they've talked a bunch on the infowars about outlawing the Democratic Party. What are you doing? I don't know. Yeah. We need literally word for word, we need to get rid of the Democratic Party and then the Republican Party can split into two parties, one, the far right party and one, the right party. That's what Alex said that a bunch. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So look, the important thing though is that you don't get violent. Well, we come back because that's true. That's one way to do this. And if Patriots did that, we would defeat Pelosi. We would defeat we would defeat the CFR and Haas. We're really going to do war. We show real war is like burn
Starting point is 00:47:53 everything in your path, kill everything, which I'm not calling for, not go take selfies in the Capitol and act like a jackass. We don't want to go down or stay there. Patrick Byrne is our guest. We don't want to do it. But if you raise everything, burn down everything, kill everybody, we would defeat the globalists. I am blinded by the idea that you could think the guy saying you should toss the Geneva conventions right back up your ass and burn everything to the ground along the way is the good guy. That confuses me, Dan. Well, it's because, you know, he's good. The Democrats are evil and they're run by Satan and what you need to do is not take the moral high ground. No, burn everything to the fucking ground. Well, but to be fair, he's not saying
Starting point is 00:48:44 that he wants to do that, just that it would work. Also, again, it would work again. He would defeat the globalists and the CFR and Nancy Pelosi. All right. If these patriots did a Sherman's march, right, and burned down everything, killed everyone around them, right, but it's Antifa who did all the violence, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, and the right wingers who weren't there, but the ones who may have been there, and if they were, they were proud boys who had been co-opted by a Fed. Exactly. Who might be Joe Biggs. You guys got to work overtime to say we didn't do exactly what we said and wanted to do. It's a little silly. Yeah. So speaking of silly, a lot of people believe it. Speaking of silly things, Patrick Burn, he's got a really simple suggestion for what
Starting point is 00:49:32 needs to happen. Startoverstock2.com. Well, here he's going to overstock ballots. Okay. Here's what we're going to do. Doesn't quite work. We're going to steal it. These guys, one of the things they always have is like a solution to the problem that they see. Like in this case, they think the election was stolen. Yeah. So they have a solution that's really, really simple, but man, it is not simple. It's insanely complicated and would be outrageous to actually do, but they're like, this is all we want. Sure. It's so simple. Sure. Trump could today, President Trump could order those six counties be recount on live stream TV by the National Guard. We see what happens. If there is no aberration or irregularities, he gets on his helicopter, no muscle fuss. He told me that.
Starting point is 00:50:21 If, on the other hand, there's big irregularities, then he should use his executive powers to say, you know what, this whole election pursuant to that executive order I told you about, if they show, what I think that those may show is 500, 800,000 irregular votes in those different counties. He then just says, look, we're going to scrub this. It's obviously so compromised. This election, there's an egg we cannot unscramble. I'm going to have the National Guard rerun an election nationally 30 days, 45 days. They're going to run it paper ballots only, no machines. If you want to vote absentee, somebody comes to your door, gives you the ballot, you fill it out. So everything, it'll be the most, it'll be the most drumtight, secure, no nonsense election America's ever had.
Starting point is 00:51:06 And you know what? I wouldn't be surprised if the guy won 120 million votes. You know, if they did that. So that's what he should do. But before taking that big step, he should just send the National Guard in to recount the ballots in those six states. Is this so much to ask? I will, I'd say this to you, honestly. I think the only thing that could get over 90% of Americans to try and overthrow the government is any party saying, let's have another election right now. I think everyone is a little burned out. Everyone would be like, I'm fucking done. I'm fucking done. Capital buildings don't care. Governors mansions don't care. Post offices don't care. Not doing another election. None of it. None of it. That will make me want to burn everything to the ground.
Starting point is 00:51:51 I like when people like Patrick Byrne try to play this game because what they're doing is essentially offering this like false idea of a simple solution. It's like, why wouldn't you accept this really simple solution? Totally. If you just do this, then all of our complaints would go away. That's obviously not true. No. And it's a setup. It's a trap. Totally. Imagine a scenario wherein the world or the United States is like, yes, okay, we will do this National Guard hand count of these ballots. What would end up happening is then that would be used as an opportunity to find a new problem that they can use to complain and then try and get this national election with a National Guard or whatever. It's all just a fucking stupid game
Starting point is 00:52:36 trying to, it's a fishing adventure that they're trying to go on. Find something to complain about. It would be, it would be, it almost makes me long for the days when they would have to actually move the goalposts instead of being able to see that they've set up goalposts exactly 20 yards apart for infinity. And every time you reach one, they're like, nah, this goalpost is fake. We were going for that one over there. And you're like, no, there's an infinity number of goalposts. Nah, it's annoying. Yeah. So on the 12th, Trump was speaking in Alamo, Texas, which again is not the Alamo, which was totally on purpose. He chose Alamo, the city 100% on purpose just because nobody knew that he was coming. Doesn't mean that he didn't choose Alamo, the city 100% on purpose.
Starting point is 00:53:16 And Alex knows that it's the city, not the Alamo building. You would hope. And he has also said that people are gathering at the Alamo. So there is some confusion. You would think. And I think that Patrick, I'm not sure if he knows if it's the Alamo or Alamo, Texas. I hate these people. He's an Alamo, Texas. He's about to give a speech in an hour. Well, that may be symbolic that he's an Alamo. You know, you can't, it may be symbolic, isn't it? It would be. He should take, and you're down there by not far from there, as I recall. Yeah, my ancestor was there. Yeah. Oh, was he? Who was your ancestor? Someone I know? I'm just looking up. It doesn't really matter.
Starting point is 00:53:52 It doesn't matter. I don't live off the past laurels. It's just interesting. Bullshit! David Crockett. Okay. Bullshit! No, not David Crockett. Not David Crockett. Not David Crockett. Fuck no, not David Crockett. Yeah. Let's play 20 questions with people who are at the Alamo. Somebody more racist. I don't go off the past laurels. Later on, he's going to say that both sides of his family were on the Mayflower. Of course. Why not? He talks about all these ancestors all the fucking time. Fuck off. Why not? I love it. I was married to the Queen. I also think that I think he's trying to imply that it's Colonel Travis, but I don't think he's related to Colonel Travis at all.
Starting point is 00:54:27 No. Anyway, we get a revelation about... Spiritually, they're both drunks. That's true. And fumblebums. Stumblebums. That's what I was trying to say. I prefer fumblebums. So here's an interesting piece of trivia about what's going on in Patrick Byrne's life right now. I have COVID now, by the way. Just to let you know, that's why I'm coughing, but I can't get... We're practicing... Well, you look really healthy. Did the PCR test told you that? Yeah, yesterday. You know, 96% of those are false. It's like a... No, this is real. I have a mild flu. I feel it. Well, no, people get cold. People get flu, but they're calling basically...
Starting point is 00:55:04 The PCR test, if you have any viral background, says that you have COVID. Oh, really? So, Alex is trying to convince Patrick that he doesn't have COVID. Jesus. Did Patrick not realize you weren't supposed to actually have COVID ever if you were near Alex's show? Yeah. I would imagine that 40% of info warriors have probably had it. I think Alex said he thinks he had it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think people who work at info wars have almost... Yeah. I bet the number is high. Yeah. So, Ali Alexander is the head of Stop the Steel. He was involved in the rallies on the sixth to some capacity. He has done some live streams where he talked about how he planned the events.
Starting point is 00:55:49 Right, because he's Antifa. To put pressure on the people voting about the electoral college, along with... Who's it? Paul Gosar, Mo Brooks, and Andy Briggs. Andy Biggs. Yep. Three members of Congress. Yeah, it's good to know. And in the aftermath of everything, he has been kicked off all social media, and there have been rumors flying around about him being in hiding. Yeah. And some of that might be a little bit of a crowdfunding operation. Well... But the grifter's got a grift, buddy. They're trying to play this really interesting line about whether or not he's in hiding. Sure. Because they don't want him to be in hiding, because that makes him look like a weakling. Yeah. But they also want him to be in hiding,
Starting point is 00:56:31 because that makes everything really scary. Exactly. It's tough. Yeah. I'm not in hiding, but, you know, for my own protection, because of the tens of thousands of people that the media has inspired to issue me death threats, and fatwas, and, you know, call for my public execution, I am at an undisclosed location. I've had to travel by unconventional means. You're taking a dirigible horse? What are we doing here? That would be fun. I would be happier if Ali Alexander did try and overthrow the government, but via dirigible. That would be great. And when I land, I can only take a unicycle. I have been banned from normal forms of transportation. The globalists will let me get around, but I have to look silly doing it. I don't know why it's
Starting point is 00:57:26 just part of their rules. I have to put one leg on a skateboard at all times. It's insane. It's yeah. I'm not in hiding, but I'm also in an undisclosed location, and I have to travel via unconventional means. Oh, God. Fuck this. Oh, my God. Anyway, Ali has his own sort of narrative about what happened at the Capitol, and it's pretty similar to Alex, I guess. I believe that forces within our government coordinated with the paramilitary arm of the Democrat Party to have. Yes, that one. Disgusting events inside the U.S. Capitol, and not everybody was discussing who entered the U.S. Capitol. I want to be very clear, okay? No, the vast majority stayed within the velvet ropes. Oh, did they? And this is what I like to
Starting point is 00:58:08 tell people is if the mob was coming to perform an insurrection, then they would have breached the U.S. House floor. What we know is that only Jake, that weird Q Shaman, and who, by the way, a lot of people don't know this, here's an exclusive. Jake actually protested, counter-protested, the last stop, the steel rally in Arizona. So Jake actually has attacked, stopped the steel in Arizona. He's probably Antifa. He's probably Antifa. I looked into this and apparently what happened is that the Q Shaman showed up at Ali Alexander's event, the Stop the Steel event, and wanted to give a speech. And he wouldn't let him. They got into a fight. It wasn't so much counter-protesting. It was that he did get a speaker slot. He was not happy
Starting point is 00:58:54 about it. I propose a new solution to our problems. All right. Here's my pitch. I'm listening. Okay. All of these grifter types are scrambling to scapegoat, which I like how it's 2020. Yeah. Or 2021. Yeah. Blackjack. Maybe it is going to stay. I don't think it's too late now. It's already happened. No. Okay. They're scapegoating people. All right. Gotta do it. Even though they love them and they support everything that they did. I propose the Thunderdome. All right. Alex Jones has to go up against the Q Shaman. Thunderdome. Two men enter, one man leave. Are you talking about the place where they now have WWE Raw? Absolutely. The Thunderdome. Two people enter. One leaves until we have a single ideological group. I mean,
Starting point is 00:59:50 I think that might pull some better ratings than Alex's normal show, but that'd be great. I'd watch that. The paramilitary wing of the Democratic Party. It's just say that one more time. That's just cute. I'm sorry. That's just Antifa. Yeah. That's all he's saying. Yeah. Anyway, fuck Ali Alexander. He doesn't have anything interesting to say. It's a really short interview because Alex has another guest. This guy's uncle wrote the foreword for a very racist book written by Gary Allen about the civil rights movement. Joel Scousen is back. He has some interesting questions to ask about. Hey, we're supposed to admire General Flynn. Right. And, you know, Alex did that interview with Flynn. Right. And in that interview, General Flynn said 100%
Starting point is 01:00:29 Trump is still going to be president after January 20th. Correct. And Scousen's like, how could he be so stupid? How could he believe something? How could he? But I'm convinced that there's somebody else who perhaps General Flynn recognizes in former days in the military, as well as General McNary, who's talking to them and telling them that I'm a patriot. You know, there's a whole group in the White House or in the intelligence and military services that are going to defend Donald Trump and put him back in the White House. There's no other explanation for why General Flynn, in the face of all that we know about the deep state, would make a statement that there's 100% chance that Donald Trump's going to win this. And he's not going to win it.
Starting point is 01:01:08 I've got another explanation. And we know that already. It's it's the worst solution. Well, I can tell you last Thursday when Trump made that speech, Flynn broke with him. And I'm going to leave it at that. But Flynn is not buying that Kool-Aid now. Yeah. I wish you'd ask him if you have contact with him. Who was the contact? Who told him because it had to be somebody. How about I just give you out of the show his number? Yeah, I'd appreciate that. That seems rude. I would appreciate that as well. That seems rude. I am going to sleep better tonight knowing that General Flynn is being bothered by the nephew of W. Cleon Scousen. Yeah. And ignoring his texts. It will make me feel very good. It's nice to know
Starting point is 01:01:47 that General Flynn is soon going to have to get a new phone number because Scousen won't stop exactly. That's what I wanted. Yeah. That's what I want out of this whole thing. Yeah. So Epstein, Jeffrey. Sure. Let's bring him back. Does everybody realize that they just tried to storm the fucking capital? He's dead, right? I guess. I guess. That's what drives the deep state. The promise that we will make all of your sins go away. You won't be prosecuted unless you do something stupid that we can't cover up like Jeffrey Epstein. But even then they may have, you know, exited him. There was this eyewitness sighting at the New Mexico Ranch that sure is the perfect place for Jeffrey Epstein. You know, you can't put anything past these deep
Starting point is 01:02:31 state people. So I guess they both are suspicious that Epstein's still alive, which is great. Whatever. All right. Anyway, man. So there was a video that was going around on Twitter. I believe that this is what Alex is talking about. Someone brought it to my attention, a couple of people, actually. And it was a video of Alex yelling about like, fuck Trump, you know, all of this. I didn't see it. It was supposedly like after all of this, like Trump conceding and being weak, Alex has turned on him. And it was the videos from when Alex got mad at Trump for bombing Syria. Right. Right. Shoving ISIS up his dirty asshole. It was that same day. But it was the video of him, like when he didn't realize the feeds were alive. Okay. And he was yelling like, fuck this shit.
Starting point is 01:03:16 I'm not in a fucking cult. Yeah. You know, like all this. Yeah. And people, people like lied about it saying it was implying that it was current. Sure. Alex thinks it might be a deep fake. The interest of truth, because I'm trying to scan my mind. I want to get into Trump and the world and martial law and all the rest of it. I'm a sinner. I've been through a lot of stress in 27 years on air, probably 10 times. I flipped out late at night when I was drinking or I was angry one night. My dog died. It had an aneurysm. Your dog dying out of his face. I came up after it died. I blew up on air and Custon yelled, but, but there's nothing modern. I haven't done that in a long time. So that's out there. I repent. Nobody's perfect except Jesus Christ. But no,
Starting point is 01:03:54 I've not done anything in a long time like that. That sounds like a deep fake or edits of something I've done together that are exaggerated. It might be a deep fake. Yeah, that sounds right. That sounds right. It's probably a deep fake. Yeah. Video of me screaming obscenity about Trump. Is that the only difference between the right wing and like a, other people is just like other people who are like, Hey, I suppose I could be wrong about something not deep fake. Yeah. The right is just like, I'm going to have to go with. I'm still right. No matter what. Yeah. So Scousen, his interview is not really all that interesting either. He's sort of going on the same tracks that we've already seen, not really bringing a whole
Starting point is 01:04:35 lot more to the conversation outside of wanting Flynn's number and revealing that Epstein's probably alive still. So Alex has something to say about presidencies. This might be the last one. Everybody's getting ready for the president. He's not perfect, but he's our president. He's an American, probably the last president you'll see before the return of Christ. Because God gives you an example of what to do right before the fall. Like this is what you could add. So Alex is doing the fourth hour now because Trump's going to give his speech in Alamo. Sure. And Alex is constantly going on and on about how like no one else is broadcasting this speech. Jesus. It's, it's very annoying. Yeah. But after the speech, he gets into like this really
Starting point is 01:05:24 fucked up headspace where he's just talking about how like I've lived in the fire except it's not the fire. All right. It's the bacon grease. Okay. People are like Jones. Are you scared? The opposite. I've been in the bacon grease for a long time. I've been lowered down at it my whole life. I've been waiting for this moment all my life because I believe when I warn you when you get lowered down into that grease and your toes hit that boiling pain and then it's up your shins and up your legs and up your waist and up your chest and up your neck that you're going to fight back. I'm betting on you. I've lived in the grease for decades psychically. I would say physically. That's a
Starting point is 01:06:21 my bed is made of grease. That's a that's a weird mental image. Yeah. I don't even see melted grease either. I see the like solid stuff if you leave it out for a day and it's sitting there. It's congealed. He's just sitting in there just like this is actually kind of comfortable. It's basically like a sensory deprivation tank. It's like a Jell-O bath. Yeah. Joe Rogan got me on this. It's a sensory deprivation grease. Yeah. Yeah. I love the grease. I can't go to a spa once every two weeks. So Alex Fakes crying also at the end of this episode. Sure. Just a little fun. Nothing will fulfill you like the Holy Ghost. The Holy Ghost will fulfill you so much you can't even believe it. But God demands that you take action against evil which seems scary which I don't
Starting point is 01:07:08 know why I've been in this so long. Fighting evil is a pleasure. Money. It is an enjoyment. It is the question is why do I do this more. Why was I not doing it before. There's actually a great feeling of guilt and patheticness in the face of God. Once you join God Satan is a rotting dead carcass in the corner and with maggots covering it and you're like looking at celestial galaxies and unending power and you're like how did this ever what was this and then you watch civilization falling and your people falling. That's the sick joke. To replace Trump. Sure. With bike. To replace your mother with Satan. To replace everything that's strong and everything that's good with a lie. Why would you do that.
Starting point is 01:08:03 All right. Alex. I'm going to need you to do this again from the top. Yeah. We're going to need to do it. We're going to need to do another take on this one. Alex. Great. Trump with Biden. Great. Great. Your mother with Satan. What do we have for dinner tonight. I want to wait. I can't wait for the inauguration because I want to see if Alex thinks that Joe Biden's plumping up ten bags of blood. Got ten bags of blood in him. He's plumping. He's plumping. I do. I do love the idea that you can you can reach enlightenment. Like you know you think of the the great the great buddhas and how they they managed to pierce the veil and detach themselves by seeing the ultimate meaninglessness of our space in the universe. But if instead of like being
Starting point is 01:08:52 like oh I've reached enlightenment they were just like I hate Biden. That would be that would be something. That would be interesting. So now we get to the 13th and Alex is in a different head space. He feels doomed a little bit. Turns out you ever see the Children of Men that movie. I have a lot of people talking about it right now. I think Alex might have seen it. Yeah. Can we put the headline up for the live show today please. From info wars dot com. Every day we have a posting with a live audio and video feed in it. And it says right there we are now in the new world order. Tune into this emergency broadcast if you want to live. Because when you look at people and when you see children that are two or three years old today they're growing up in a dystopia
Starting point is 01:09:42 and it's going to accelerate very very quickly and that's the last generation that'll even be able to have children and most of them won't be able to. And most of the children you see today will be dead by the time they're 20 years old of cancers and other things implanted in them. And you'll just you'll be told oh something else caused it but it's it's it's the it's the vaccines. You're all being killed. We're all dying. So I want all the FBI agents to know. I want all the bureaucrats to know and liberals to know. Conservatives to know. Everybody thinks you're part of the system. You're not part of the system. I can tell you the people running this are not in control. Then are they running it. Now they've been given advanced knowledge.
Starting point is 01:10:25 Okay. Interdimensionally that's how they go. Oh shit. But it's it's aliens. Yeah it's the aliens. It's the devil. It's the devil alien. Okay. Uh-huh. So so. Interdimension. Yeah. Interdimensional demon devils trying to give you vaccines in order to kill you. But please don't storm the capital. I am almost 100 percent positive. Whatever you do just spread links to my content. I'm just so sure that there's a promise that you at least won't be fucked over by the devil in hell until after you die. Now he's he's he's poking you here. I don't. I just don't think the pitchfork is actually three vaccines. Also I just oh man. There's a trident. It works for prongs right. So so silly
Starting point is 01:11:15 whenever they take a stupid religion and they're like no no let's add some science to it now that we know about different dimensions. Yeah God was actually in a higher plane man. Yeah which lowers everything down from like a spiritual thing to just another fucking. I think it takes a lot of value away from that. Yeah it's like oh you know I understand that lightning is static electricity as the you know and it's like oh well I guess that's not as magical as if Zeus was throwing it at me. Now I know God's just some asshole in a different dimension. Fuck that guy. Yeah and live in my dimension if you want to tell me what to do. And it does introduce the you know sort of the point that like once you realize that lightning isn't thrown by Zeus it is this electrical thing you
Starting point is 01:12:01 can then create lightning. Yeah and you can understand it. Yeah and you know it kind of takes away the point of religion if you bring all this science stuff to it because then it's within the realm of human comprehension. Yeah and then it's not really religion at all. Yeah you see through a glass darkly. Oh shit you guys found out about science. I'm fucked. So anyway it's the extra dimensional devil. That is interesting. We could if it is extra dimensional then that would suggest that there is a possibility that we could eventually pierce our way through into God's dimension and finally kill and overthrow God like we've always been dreaming. Or conversely Alex does have an actual shot of destroying the devil. That's true. Yeah he's got an outside
Starting point is 01:12:44 chance. Yeah it sounds silly to us but if you actually believe this stuff he has it. It's there. It's a long shot. It's a long shot. So anyway the devil's behind everything. I give him 20 to one odds. That's generous. We can look at all this news and all the things that are happening all the insanity and we can say to ourselves well this is this is man made but it's not. We have a fallen nature but we are being manipulated and the Bible tells us that interdimensionally a creature that is out of the light spectrum vision that we can see. A what now? Fell to this planet and has a plan to overtake us play God and then use us in our creativity to build an escape system for it off of the planet. What? That's how advanced we are. We are way
Starting point is 01:13:40 more advanced than the species, the creature that turned against God. What? Now that's the Bible folks. Secret societies and the churches and the masons and all of that is to keep you from that information. The churches are trying to keep this from you. I love that. I want to end every insane thing I say with just now. Now that's the Bible. That's the Bible. Nailed it guys. Put that one in the books. It would be really interesting if like all the stories about Alex that end up getting printed in these you know these outlets like they led with Alex who believes he's fighting an extra dimensional demon. Yeah, yeah, fuck you. How dare you pretend that any of these people have anything other than believes nonsense before their name. Alex Jones who
Starting point is 01:14:33 believes that communism is being directed by a literal demon. Totally. Totally. Kind of would take some of the the sting away from that. It's hard to make them the big bad whenever you're like oh that. So in the future sick people will be forced to merge with machines. That sounds right. But they'll actually be killed. But what? You will have to pretend that they haven't been killed and these machines are actually them or else you'll get in trouble. I mean we're off the edge of the cliff. We're in the new world order now. But if you don't understand that at the end of this everybody dies and there's no more children and in the process of wanting to live through the social credit score they tighten the noose down. They tighten the vice down
Starting point is 01:15:18 until you are involved in public rituals of sterilizing your children, sterilizing yourself, resisting God, resenting God and turning over your humanity because you're so sick you've got to merge with machines so you just believe you have a chance to still live though you will actually die. But they will be a law that you cannot call the synthetics that are human machine merged cyborgs dead. If you say that's not a person anymore they didn't they didn't transfer over to the machine it's a fraud. Well I mean honestly that's racist. That will be punishable by death. I don't know if I would go that far. I have the entire enemy blueprint. Now that's the Bible. And now I've studied this so much and now we've gone so far
Starting point is 01:16:07 and I've experienced things at different levels so where now anybody can go read with the globalist saying what they do and know what they're going to carry out. But now from my immersion in this since about seven years old I can use the analogy see the code of the matrix and so let me just take for sure not an analogy that's only going to get worse from here. This is a lunatic. Yeah full stop. Yep the end period. So anyway this lunatic here he wants to it seems like he wants to distance himself from Trump a little bit. Oh I can't imagine why. And this was one of the the first indications of like it didn't work out you know whatever. And so I just want to tell liberals conservatives all of you look I know what happened with Trump wishful thinking. So I'm
Starting point is 01:16:58 going to tell you what really went down when Trump we come back. I've thought about this I've prayed about this and I'll explain when we come back but just listen to me listen to me. The New World Order is here. Tune in to this emergency broadcast if you want to live. That's not a joke because the god of this world loves death. Sure loves death. Yeah why not. So yeah Trump was wishful thinking. Yeah. What did he just start listening to our show. He must have yeah because I did he started the back catalog where I was like in 2017. Guys Trump is going to abandon you the moment that it's expedient for him to fucking do so. Yeah this is all nonsense. You're building up something
Starting point is 01:17:47 that's going to eventually blow up in your face. He's not the guy you're saying he is. He's a giant coward who's a front man for consortiums on the god. He's called. Yeah. So apparently also I know that I think you and I have heard Alex say the Trump is one of the greatest Christians ever. He's very religious deeply religious. He held up that Bible one time and you see him praying with like Paula White Kane and all these types. That's right. That's right. Praying to money I believe that's what Paula White Kane prays to. Well it turns out that Trump actually isn't Christian. Oh that's not a surprise. He's more of an energy guy. Great. Trump thought he could go in there and defeat these people and he's never been a devil worshipper but he did whatever was popular
Starting point is 01:18:33 but as he felt the real he said he was undercover as Christian and he felt the energy of God and Christ empowering him and got into that energy in that mission because Trump's an energy guy. You said he was a secret. He has religions and names and this or that. We've had conversations about the energy. Love's energy. You said he's been a Christian since like 40 years. The enemy let Trump get in. He did win by landslide the first time in the second time. They let him get in to energize the left and then have people reject control borders, reject law and order, reject populism, reject jobs, reject optimistic future and to say no we want an evil pedophile communist Chinese zombie. So Trump is a false flag. I am tired. Dan tired. I'm so tired. I know
Starting point is 01:19:21 that this is exhausting and it's so stupid but trust me the end of this episode is going to be so worth it. All right. Yeah but I don't know. I know that he's implying kind of that like Trump is a false flag which is weird because analyze the last years of your career then buddy boy. Yeah. Yeah. But the way Alex is trying to sum it up here on this episode is like hey, me a culpa. I put too much faith in the guy. You know, hey, what do you know? I got too optimistic. And I should teach and I should cover the globalist and different angles of it, the philosophy and like I said break the left right paradigm because the republic is a democratic part of the same system. You see that again right now. Trump was a populist movement.
Starting point is 01:20:00 It was powerful but I put too much hope in it. You did as well. Go fuck yourself. You don't get to do like this is the one time that I want as much as possible all of us to come together and this is something that I feel like the right should get on board with. These guys just don't get to do this. No, they've got new propagandists but Alex doesn't get to go back. Well and also it would be good for there to be a real moment of reflection for people who are serious and not total assholes who just happen to have more conservative ideas about the way a state should maybe be organized. Take a moment to reflect on how what these people have done to your party. Now we're at a point where most right thinking people will not like even engage
Starting point is 01:20:47 with conservative ideas because these people have taken over the the the premise of your party. All right. So it's January 21st. It's a good time for us to start getting to work on the new agenda and now we're going to talk with Mo Brooks who just two weeks ago helped orchestrate a fucking coup about tax proposals. Yeah we're gonna talk. We're gonna talk tax proposals with a guy who's friends with Ali Alexander. Yeah. No. Fuck that. Yeah. Why in God's name would I talk about any policy issue with you if I know your secret plan is overthrow the goddamn government. Yeah. And and it's not fair for Alex to pretend that it's just like yeah we got too excited about this like no that's you don't get to do that. No it's personally mean to me. Yeah but I think that he's
Starting point is 01:21:33 struggling with this too. And I got a little bit of a feeling of some Alex trying to express something that he's not willing to express in this next clip. And granted I might be psychoanalyzing too much but. The real Satanism is not pushing past boundaries and doing really really destructive hateful things of hurting people and not caring and being a predator. Which you are. And not in a respectful way like you'd kill a deer and then harvest it for the food. No no you're killing people's dreams. You're stealing people's destinies. You're hurting the loving energy on this planet. You're not good people. You're failures. And it's why you're all so scrawny and ugly and sick because you're losers that the satanic system crushed and now you've gone the thing that abused
Starting point is 01:22:19 you hoping you could get power by the thing that abused you when all it will do is continue to destroy you. You people are seeking after power. You will get so much power from the Holy Ghost that you will be ashamed of yourself and what you were and you will not even know how to deal with it because God is infinitely greater than that. So I think if you pay close attention to the words that Alex was saying there I think you can hear that as him ranting about himself. Yeah. He's saying that these satanic losers he's yelling about are so pathetic because they were crushed by a system and in response they're buddying up to the very system that crushed them in hopes of getting power from it. He then says God will give you unspeakable power. Alex has been pretty clear in the past about how
Starting point is 01:23:04 much suffering supporting Trump has brought into his life. From the financial hardships to the lawsuits he's in way more trouble than he was before he decided to take on Trump as his divine champion. That could easily be understood as Alex being crushed by a system. In response he's clung on for dear life hoping that system that had crushed him would give him some power in the end which now is becoming painfully clear is not the case. But there's a different more important level to this shit that I don't think Alex even understands as he's talking. In this very episode it's super clear that Alex is working through some buyer's remorse on Trump and having to admit to his audience that he got too optimistic about Trump as president. But this is not
Starting point is 01:23:42 the same thing as like you or me being slightly disillusioned with some of the policy objectives that weren't achieved under Obama. This isn't a situation where Alex just liked Trump and he wasn't as good as he hoped. Alex routinely said that Trump was a leader anointed by God. God had told Alex that Trump was the way to go. For Alex to now get soft on Trump is an admission that he was either making all that shit up or he's actually soft on God. Alex doesn't mean any of the things he says. The constant talk about God being on his side and his enemies being controlled by the devil they don't mean anything. It's all just extremist talk to make the difference between his side and the other side seem impossible to ever reconcile. I get the sense that Alex is
Starting point is 01:24:21 beginning to recognize that Trump himself is a dead end and the price of continuing to believe that he's a God ordained ruler despite the fact that Biden is president will believe that he's required to do things like storm the capital. Yeah. And he doesn't want to do that because then there's no money anymore. Exactly. Yeah. And this is just like I wish I wish that people could see that more clearly. Yeah. Any audience member of Alex's that thinks that he has some kind of an actual connection to the religious ideas that he presents like you got to get over that. It's nonsense. Totally. I just heard him say you're killing people's dreams and then I was like immediately cut to Owen Schreuer trying to get a job in media in five years.
Starting point is 01:25:02 There's only one infowars person that I've seen actually make the leap. I think so. There's a guy Mikhail Thalen who who writes for some I can't remember what outlet he writes for but I've seen the bylines from Mikhail Thalen. Yeah. Being put around by people who don't realize he used to work it in for a while. Yeah. Yeah. So he might have a little bit less of the stink. Did he do the political thing today. I'm not sure. But yeah. Everyone else dreams crushed. So brutal. There's news coming out here on the 13th and conversation starting to happen about this this idea that was put up by Representative Mickey Sherrill about the the possibility that there was a recon tour the day before that some members of Congress were were leading and this is really fucked up
Starting point is 01:25:54 for Alex. So he's just going to decide it's not real. Oh you can be a former U.S. attorney that's now a Congresswoman who put out a big fake article that that that Congressman had Ali Alexander in the Capitol and they were casing it out the day before and she saw them and she wants them all arrested because he was he was reconning it. She knows that's all. So she is said that Congress members she saw some Congress members giving tours of the Capitol building to people on January 5th the day before the storming. Yeah. This is suspicious to her because there were no official tours being done at the moment because of COVID-19. So it seemed weird for these people to be inside the Capitol at all. It would be weird. As of the time of this recording
Starting point is 01:26:36 Sherrill has joined more than 30 House members calling for an investigation into the people who are there the day prior and if that proceeds we'll know a lot more. As it stands right now if what she's suggesting is true things may be way more fucked up than they appear. Yeah. But I do want to call out what is a bit of misinformation that I think Alex is combining with this and that is that there was a particular video that was floating around that shows Ali Alexander, Alex and Nick Fuentes in what appears to be the Capitol building. People have claimed that this video was from the day before the storming but I've actually found that footage posted as early as November and it's from when the three of them were in the Georgia Capitol building for that stop the steal event.
Starting point is 01:27:14 Sure. Sure. Sure. You know they're talking about like if you let the hillbillies decide we'll lose the country. Yeah. You can find corroborating videos from that day where they're all in the same uniform or at same outfits. Right. So I think that what's going on is that video was making the rounds and Alex is responding to that as being what Representative Sherrill was talking about. Right. And I don't know if that's fair. Yeah. I think we're in a the hard part of the situation is that after the sixth I just you can't put anything beyond reason. You know like if you told me like one of the representatives had a gun pointed to AOC's face I would be like that might be true. I can't rule that out anymore. I understand that. You know I understand that but
Starting point is 01:28:02 it's it's critically important to not descend into the realm of believing stuff that's too convenient and that you just want to 100 percent. That's that's what I'm that's what I'm saying is that unfortunately now you know a lot of that stuff you know you could have just been like okay I don't have the bandwidth to investigate this. There's no way that the representative held a gun directly to her face. And now it's like if I see that I have to go investigate to make sure because it really could be true which is terrifying but at the same time I think you can't believe that right you know well it's tough. Yeah but I think that's also more like it's the burden of the modern information space and how you can exist in it as a responsible
Starting point is 01:28:47 consumer of information. Yeah it's tough. It does suck but it is no it's enough to drive anywhere between 30 and 45 percent of the population and saying yep everybody should not be using social media I guess. Yep. Anyway Nancy Pelosi had had some comments about people taking a statue down while back she said something to the effect of people are gonna do what they're gonna do. Right. And Alex decides to play this clip and then talk about killing her. But hey are you gonna stop the burning and the fires and the killing. Well people are gonna do what people are gonna do. In fact let's play that first. I took a Carlson clip but here's here's Pelosi. People are gonna do what people are gonna do. Here it is.
Starting point is 01:29:34 People will do what they do. It is I do think that from a safety standpoint it would be a good idea to have it taken down if the community doesn't kill them. I don't know that it has to be a commission but it just could be a community. So if somebody walked up Pelosi God forbid it turned into a martyr seriously and stabbed her in the neck. Would that just oh people put on our tombstone people do what they do. No lady that's not how it works. Stop assaulting us trying to get us to attack you so you can play the victim. You hunch back devil worshiping witch who will burn in hell. God has got you in his process not us. Vengeance is mine say the Lord. I'm gonna play the stuck Carlson clip on the Uganda hypocrisy but first
Starting point is 01:30:19 I've got products you need amazing X2 back in stock 50% off it's about to go up so we're selling out of it. Nailed it. Hit me. That's like James Brown with the sting. Hit me. So Alex whenever he says like vengeance is the Lord's like we've heard him talk multiple times about how the riddle of that is that sometimes you need to be God's vengeance. You are God's. I mean if you feel like God is speaking to you sometimes. That's what Alex is expressing when he says that vengeance is the Lord's. That's not what he's saying. That's literally what he's saying but the intent behind it. What that what that expression conveys to the initiated within the Info Wars information space. It means someone stab someone might need to stab Nancy Pelosi. Yeah it is. It is a interesting
Starting point is 01:31:11 like flaw in the legal system is that because of the way these people speak you can't you can't just like enter oh see Alex said vengeance is mine say at the Lord. So that was a death threat. You know you have to be like okay listen to 300 hours. No but I honestly don't think it would be that difficult to say like okay you're saying vengeance is the Lord's and the Lord has Nancy Pelosi in the crosshairs is going to get stabbed in the neck or whatever and then multiple times frequently you've discussed how the idea that vengeance is the Lord's is a riddle and that actually what it's talking about is sometimes humans have to step up and be the instruments of God's vengeance. Right. Would you like to have a conversation about that. I think
Starting point is 01:31:56 you could introduce that in court and it would look pretty bad. I wouldn't look good. I don't know if it's legally actionable but he's a real asshole. Speaking of assholes we get another guest now. Okay. And it's a baby reporter. Oh no. Junior reporter and I but junior I mean baby in an oversized trench coat in a silly hat. Oh yeah. Patrick Cowley comes on. He likes the storming of the cattle. Yeah of course he. He hasn't gotten the memo. There's a lot to be optimistic about because America first is ascendant. I think all over the world people are beginning to realize that our political system here in the United States is absolutely broken and I know that you're not a big fan of the protest. I think some funny things happen. For instance somebody defecated
Starting point is 01:32:38 on Chuck Schumer's desk and that puts a smile on my face. I like hearing that. I like seeing that headline. I think that's a small win for humanity when somebody does that. You're not supposed to think that though Patrick. You're supposed to think it's Antifa. Yeah. I kind of think it's funny. So Patrick is like he doesn't get the script. He doesn't get how we can make this profitable. Yeah because he's super into it and he's like this is a good thing. You know I'll say this when the Viking shaman and these people were presiding over Congress. There were no foreign wars. Okay. We weren't giving any of our taxpayer dollars to Pakistan for gender studies. So I was getting calls from all over the world including France and Italy in the populist movement and
Starting point is 01:33:24 people were inspired by this. So yes it seems to have gone disastrously and I wasn't there and you know it didn't seem like there was any plan or any rhyme or reason to it and obviously there were agitators in the crowd. But I think just the act of civil disobedience puts the message out there that Americans are at odds with their government and that's a powerful Patrick. Yes our founders dumped millions of dollars of equivalent of tea in the ocean against the tax. I get it. Okay. What I'm saying to you is if we're going to launch a war it should be done differently and we played right in their hands and I don't want violence this weekend. The globalists have their provocateurs everywhere trying to get violence. That's all I'm saying. So basically
Starting point is 01:34:05 Alex is saying to Patrick if we endorse this. We won't get our good war. No there's that but that's that's almost like an abstract. Yeah sure sure sure if we endorse people standing up and storming the capital as like we're at odds with the government whatever other anti-government violence that ends up happening is going to be seen as something that we're encouraging and I can't make money on that. I will get I will end up arrested if we end up being seen as the I don't know the mouthpiece the media of an insurgent network. We can't do that. We have to play it smoother Patrick. Baby reporter grow up. But at the same time Alex said we played right into their plan you know like okay so yes and so now they got flagged that Antifa with the
Starting point is 01:34:58 instigators sure but that still means that all of those people did it and wanted to do it. You wouldn't have been they got tricked by the neuro linguistic programming on the bullhorn. I'm so tired. Yeah and the person who took a shit on Schumer's desk was probably Q person and you know all the stuff that happened like the people who were Trump people were just the ones who were milling around and taking selfies and stuff sure they were all good people all the things that you would be horrified by those were provocateurs. You could absolutely stand around and take pictures outside of the Capitol building could if you storm it that's interesting. Yeah so we now get to the point that I've been waiting for since the day that it all went down. Oh shit oh shit I know who's
Starting point is 01:35:46 coming I know who's coming. Now I got Dr. Steve Pachennick here on here and he was a psychiatrist and worked at the State Department Psychological Warfare and helped found Delta Force and he co-wrote the books with Tom Clancy I mean you know he's a real spook spook compared to all the armchair quarterbacks I've never actually done anything. This is amazing. All right. This is one of my favorite Dr. Steve Pachennick appearances. Okay. This is psychic trauma for Alex. Okay. This does not go well. Okay. There's a lot of big swings on Steve's part. That's what I was looking for and then there's also a lot of Steve trying to hold a mirror up to Alex. Okay. Alex refusing to look at it. Not liking the mirror. Not liking the mirror. So he really doesn't like the mirror. Yeah
Starting point is 01:36:28 but before he introduces Steve he's really got to like okay I know that he said the the election was a sting operation. Sure. I can't really still believe that. That one's a little late. But hey it was just a prediction. Sure. He wasn't saying that he was involved in that. No he literally said he was. Wow. And I like Steve. He's been on the show like 19 years. He was trying to be optimistic and I think that's why he did it and saying hey there was some watermarking of ballots and I think it was done system-wide in this election. It was done with the states. Democrats split out their own fake ballots. What. But he made that prediction that you know Trump would be able to turn this around. Now a lot of things have gone sideways. I want to get his take on that.
Starting point is 01:37:04 So let's get his take on that. I am excited. Are you ready. I am excited. I am looking. I have been looking forward to the biggest swing and that's got to come from Stevie P's right. Oh yeah. Nobody else can swing like him. Also please keep in mind that Alex has been going on the war path against Q. 100 percent. Now Steve Casey at the bats might be really just sounding like Q and odd. We are now officially in a military coup. What has happened and why I was part of it is because I've had a history of doing soft coups in the United States and what we call hard coups overseas overthrowing regimes using the military. In this case we had what we call a hard coup. It was initiated as I said a month and a half ago two months ago by our cyber command using
Starting point is 01:37:56 special forces. They were over 400 people from all parts of the intelligence community. I won't go into the names but in effect now we are about to arrest Pelosi. We're going to arrest Biden. Hunter Biden. Mitt Romney. Oh yeah those are coming. They're coming right around the corner but you know that's Q stuff like these are still about to happen. It's been going on forever. It's been going on for years. But Steve he's not one of these guys who's just like this stuff is going to happen. Stuff has already happened and you might be shocked to hear about it. We have already arrested and basically overseas we have taken out the pope whom I have identified for over 30 years as a terrorist. Steve has arrested the pope. Pope Francis first of his name.
Starting point is 01:38:46 So Steve arrested the pope. Okay. This is the pope has been arrested. This is the thing that's going around in QAnon stuff. This is this is a QAnon conspiracy theory. And so it's so funny when the pope tries to do like very slow incrementally good changes and everybody's like we got to kill him. We just got to arrest him. We got to throw him into prison forever. We're going to get an update on the pope a little bit later. Steve has some more details that might be even less believable than we've arrested the pope. Wow. I don't know. He's his own country. So Alex believes that on the sixth Antifa antagonized the police who then got into a fight with QAnon people who then stormed the Capitol and took the poop on Schumer's desk which is a false flag. Very false
Starting point is 01:39:32 or something. Patriots got set up. Trump supporters tried to fight them off. Of course they was a noble but doomed much like the 300 at Thermopyla. Yeah. They were doomed to failure but they fought heroically to protect the Capitol. Absolutely. Steve's got another angle on this. By the way there was no rioting in the Capitol. I happen to know three to four people here from my town who said it was very peaceful. The police took down the barrier. Alex was there. In fact what people don't do is they affect the forces operators in there to take Pelosi's computer. This is another QAnon thing. Wow. They were just there to take the special ops that come in to take Pelosi's computer. Oh my god. Yep. He's just a Q guy. He's just a Q guy. So stupid. Yeah. So now this is
Starting point is 01:40:21 where the mirror comes up. Okay. Here we get. There's a really, really fascinating thing that's going on throughout this appearance and I get the feeling that it's Steve revealing himself to Alex as a like a super villain. Okay. Because he's like, Alex I've been using you to get these extremist talking points out and try and start a coup forever. Don't you understand? You're the vehicle. You're the useful idiot you idiot. And Alex can't really hear it. No he doesn't like that. This is important for you Alex to understand and all of the listeners. You were the method through which we were able to implement the coup. It wasn't when you asked me how do you know what I was doing. How could I predict it? The truth was and still is. And by the way you did an
Starting point is 01:41:15 excellent living view with Mike Flynn. The truth is you were the vehicle through which I was promoting the necessary actions that had to be accomplished. You shut the fuck up Steve. That is fantastic. Don't put me in this. That is fantastic. I love it. I love it. Alex do you know what sometimes I was lying to you because it's part of the fucking up. Yeah you idiot. Hey I was trying to start a military coup in this country and you did it buddy. Mission accomplished. I don't believe any of this stuff but I do believe that that's Steve's perception. Yeah of course. And it seems like he's speaking real freely. Yeah. I haven't seen this since he declared himself in open treason. I back in 2013 or whatever that was. I do like the freedom that you get with
Starting point is 01:42:08 the job security of just being an asshole for Alex and the complete lack of actually doing anything. I think you can say you can do you did whatever you want. I think he's also like the kind of person who gets high on chaos. Yeah totally. And I think that he's like I think he's a little high. Yeah. Yeah that sounds right. So anyway he used Alex. Yes but he also has an explanation for why he couldn't use other media. They wouldn't have them. That's the truth. Right. His version of it might involve some of them are Jewish. Why would I expect anything less. Steve might get a little anti-Semitic. Why would I expect anything less. All of these elements came out through you Alex Jones. The reason we never used the New York Times we didn't do the Washington
Starting point is 01:42:53 Post. We didn't do any of the others. We understood who controlled them. I knew about the Murdoch family from the day they came over in 1958. I never trusted Murdoch. I didn't trust his family. What people didn't know unfortunately is that Murdoch's mother is an Orthodox Jew and he is a totally corrupt individual and a coward along with his family who brought in all of these stations and eventually kicked you and others off of it. So you were chosen as the method through which we could initiate a military coup. This is just awful. Wild. Yeah. Wild. God damn. So Alex understandably. Scratch and sniff and you'll find an anti-Semite. Oh I mean Steve's revealed that side of himself many times. Totally. Alex is a little caught off guard.
Starting point is 01:43:44 You could imagine because Steve is saying a lot of stuff that very much contradicts everything he's been saying since the 6th. Steve we've been doing this for 20 years. How is it that I still don't do pre-interviews with you. What the fuck. Why am I still talking to you. How are we still doing this. So you were chosen as the method through which we could initiate a military coup. Okay well we didn't talk about this beforehand. I certainly don't want any type of I went to have a peaceful demonstration to show our numbers to expose election fraud. Look man. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know about all that. I don't know what any of that shit is about. You fucking lunatic. You did not tell me this earlier. I have no idea what the fuck
Starting point is 01:44:26 you're talking about. I just wanted to have a march. So Alex started this interview by saying that like Steve said that there were the watermark ballots. Sure. Sure. Sure. And it was a prediction. Right. Steve. Not so much. Not still. We mark the computers. We mark the ballots. We mark the everything that was done was a sting operation. Nothing is changed. And what was done. It was done by Trump. A businessman who understood the degree of corruption that existed among the Democrats. This isn't just something about the world control of America. This was the concept of a fascist state coming in with the notion of a coronavirus which was not lethal using Fauci another Catholic who was trained by. Okay. Listen. Listen. Listen. Listen. I don't
Starting point is 01:45:17 know what's going on here because you come on the show in 19 years. Give us a lot of good information. But sure. I mean it looks like Trump's leaving in seven days. You're saying this is a coup. Steve also appears to be quite anti-Catholic. Yeah. He points out a number of times. Unsurprising. People who are Catholics. Unsurprising. It's very fucked up. It's so funny to me. Every time that they're like the Christian right I'm like man if we were gone they would be murdering each other in the streets. Well it's not even anything unique about Christian extremism or anything. Totally. It's any kind of exclusive group. Any group that defines itself by exclusion will eventually find new ways to exclude people. It's part of the DNA of that kind of system.
Starting point is 01:46:02 Even the fucking Taoist magicians murdered each other. Yeah. You'll end up like you know an all white ethno state will eventually alienate people of different hair colors. Yeah. Totally. You know eventually that's how this works. It's the only way to continue to drive profit. So Alex is like hey man look we got like a week left until the fucking inauguration. How's this gonna work. Yeah. Sell me on this one. Doc quantify this for me. Your view your perspective on this. How is it a successful military coup against the deep state that we know is there and is corrupt. The globalist arm of the deep state I guess. If Biden gets in in seven days are you saying Trump's gonna get in. There's about to be mass arrest. We don't have
Starting point is 01:46:44 a lot of time here. Like 150 hours. What are you saying it's about to happen. I'm about to say that Biden is not going to be the president of the United States. Done done done. I'm going to be saying is that there have been massive arrests. And what I'm saying in effect is that we are in martial law and we have a military coup. QAnon's real baby. Oh man. Yeah. Talk about that's that's a non answer. That's such a mirror. Just Alex finally just being like oh god you sound crazy. Yeah. And listen to this next clip. This is where I was like Alex has got to be realizing this dude is like out of his mind. Yeah. There is no globalism. That's going to be involved. We have shut down Pakistan. We have shut down part of England. We've already.
Starting point is 01:47:34 Well there is talk about the hope stepping down. Listen for a minute. The pope was arrested well over a year ago. The reason why he was arrested Alex because on your show I said this pope was corrupt and had been involved with terrorist organizations 20 to 30 years ago. I was forbidden to take him out under a Cyrus fan. Wait a minute. You're saying the pope. Well who's the guy we've seen traveling around the world in the last year. I don't see anybody traveling around the world you don't see anybody. What the fuck. So yeah the pope got arrested a year ago. Who's the guy we see going around. You don't see anybody. Shit man. Alex is going to be like oh no. That is because this is exactly that moment that so many people have had to have had with Alex is
Starting point is 01:48:25 eventually it's like okay this guy is literally saying to my face everything I've ever believed is a lie or controlled by him. So I can either believe this and then I'm gone or I have to stop for a second and go like oh no. Shit. Oh no. So the two of them get into a little bit of a fight sure about whether or not Trump is going to stay president and if you listen carefully at the end of this clip you can hear Steve's wife laughing in the background. I'm just telling you in seven days Pachennick tell us who's going to be the president and what's about to happen. Seven days. Let me repeat it again Jones. It's going to be Trump. It will not be Biden. Biden's people will be arrested. There will be people who will be arrested. Pelosi Biden. That's what's
Starting point is 01:49:19 going to happen. And if I'm wrong. Fine. Don't put me on your show. If I'm right. What else are you going to do? His wife is laughing quite a bit in the background throughout this interview. I think she's loving it. She's having a ball. Yeah. So I think Steve doesn't like the fact that Alex is trying to pretend that this whole incident on January 6th was some kind of a false flag. You have to blame the left now. Just own it man. Yeah. Yeah. Just why why even pretend anymore. I love it. And I see the left provocaturing right wing groups for a bunch of craziness this weekend and it doesn't look good to me. So I don't want to encourage people like you saw the Q guys going to the Capitol with zip ties. They thought they were in a secret mission arrest people.
Starting point is 01:50:06 Alex quiet down a bit. You've never been in a military coup. You do not understand what that means. You do not understand how quickly we work and how long we've been preparing for this. Yeah. So he's golden. Alex four stars. Yeah. Go home and tell your mother you're brilliant. This is a little different though. This is almost just like a mask off time. Alex Alex. Let's do this. We hate democracy. Fuck it. Where it's time. Yeah. And Steve gets a little a little insulting. Mike down for this because I loved this clip. So the one thing that they can come to an agreement on is that there is martial law that's going on right now. Alex asks so why are there black helicopters in Austin and Steve's response to it is like oh perfect.
Starting point is 01:50:53 The one thing is true. The one thing that you're saying is true is we are under martial law right now. It's not just in DC. That's correct. I've said it repeatedly. You're under martial law everywhere. The state of Black Hawk helicopters hovering over downtown Austin this morning because you're you're you're sitting down in Austin. You're working very hard in your studio and you're trying to sell vitamins. We don't send Black Hawk helicopters every day. This is not just special forces. Why do I see Black Hawk helicopters because you're trying to scare people. Oh my god. Oh my god. Steve is dipping his balls into Alex's eyes. That is a scathing answer. That is hilarious. Why do I see the scary because you're trying to sell pills. Yeah I sell these
Starting point is 01:51:44 vitamins because you're a fucking drug dealer Alex. That's what you are. Yeah. So Alex is not. He's not having a good time with this interview but he thinks that he is capable of having this interview and I would say he's wrong. I'm going to ask the tough questions here. A 19 year history with this guy on air. He's giving us 99% good stuff but I mean gosh I hope he's right. Now some say don't have him on. You can burn in hell too. You know this idea that I'm just supposed to have one view on here or one idea. This is all in flux. We are under martial law. I just think that if you're going to have interviews with people like this they should be a little bit more well done. You shouldn't be caught off guard by him telling you that you
Starting point is 01:52:24 have been a 30 year instrument of his desire to start a military coup. 20 years no pre interviews. 20 years. 20 years I've been doing this. This happens once every four months. Once a week. I think that it's like really I don't know. I don't think that you know you should have blanket no absolutely no talking to Steve or whatever. Sure. Sure. But I do think that it behooves you to prepare. You should prepare. Yeah. Yeah. I can't imagine thinking that Steve is in pocket. You know. Yeah. Like Steve is a loose cannon at the best of times. You can't expect Steve to hold to the line. No he doesn't. Before the first time he burned Alex like in 2004. Yeah exactly. Exactly. Maybe Alex could be forgiven. How many times has Steve been put on the back punch for
Starting point is 01:53:18 a year. Damn it Steve. Again. So they make a bet. Okay. Here's the bet we're going to have Alex once and for all. If I'm wrong I will never appear on your show again but if I'm right I become one of your official bait commentator. Super all. You want that bet. All right. I'll hurry and pay you can be on show every day. That's correct. All right. So we have that that's right. Yes. Okay. So Alex is eating out and this is weird to me because this implies that Steve wants to work at Info Wars. Yes. Why hasn't he been. He just doesn't have the time. He's making this wild bet. Alex doesn't have the time. You know. Maybe this is an exit strategy because he knows that he's going to be wrong. Yeah. And then he's like well I'll never have to appear on this dumb ass.
Starting point is 01:54:11 That'd be great. This is his retirement. This is his last episode. Yeah because he is revealing it all. Yeah. Much like the magician. Yeah. Showing all the cards. Yeah but that's not about me. It was I'm talking about you Alex. You were the vehicle that was initially anointed say by me. All right. But if you are anointed because I took that risk to say this is going to be the major vehicle for where we're going to go in the next 20 or 30 years. So in this process you have to remember what is this coup about. This is a coup to pay back the Chinese for the corruption and cowardness for the wars that they sent us in Iraq and Afghanistan to Obama who sent up the war including Biden who specifically sent soldiers down. We lost 5000 people there. Alex do you
Starting point is 01:55:01 understand that I have been using you to try and build up a terrorist insurrection as payback against my political enemies. You shouldn't just say that. Well you should you should know he's going to say something like this beforehand if you're the host of the show. Yeah. It's tough to roll with. That's fantastic. Especially when you don't have to throw it to commercial break and Steve somebody who has too much respect in your universe for you to just be like go fuck yourself. I just don't know how you could respond to that with anything other than so you are saying that you have been controlling me. You've been running a scion. You've been running you've been everything that I've been saying from you is in purpose of one goal not necessarily the truth.
Starting point is 01:55:44 For 20 years you have harbored this grudge. I think that Alex knows that he's full of shit though so he doesn't have to he doesn't have to wrestle with it too much. I don't think you would worry too much about that. And Steve maybe he's an anti-Somite but yeah he's also apparently a failed individual in the world of show business. You know he wrote a couple books with Tom Clancy sure a ways back and one of his books was apparently going to be turned into a TV show but then something in Hollywood didn't go well. Okay I'll give you an example just recently. State of emergency was picked up by one of the major presidents of CW network and that person whom I've known for years in Hollywood said I want to help you out. What happened when he found out I
Starting point is 01:56:40 was involved in a coup he was disgusted. What happened to all of Hollywood among American Jews they're incompetent they're ignorant. Wow an old white man who failed in Hollywood blaming the Jews that is so original damn that's wildly original. That is just but I do think like you take that part out of it take the anti-Semitism part out of it I think it's pretty hilarious that he's like all right I had this screenplay yeah the guy at CW loved it but then he found out I was involved in a coup. All of these fucking guys have a goddamn screenplay but hey why am I being kicked out of Hollywood because I was involved in a coup. All I did was involve myself in a coup. What are you oh you're going to be disgusted by that I thought you'd be impressed. It's not just squares. How many
Starting point is 01:57:29 coups have you been involved with huh. So Alex realizes that hey if Steve's right I got to hire him right so let's talk about salary. Okay so I took Dr. Steve Pacinik's bet that if Trump is president on January 21st 2021 that we're going to hire Pacinik for the daily show if he wants it I'll pay him $200,000 a year. He's got that bet but he's not allowed if he loses the bet to just go away he has to come back on the show not to humiliate him. I'm wrong about stuff. I felt like I was set up but also maybe to humiliate him. I would hope to humiliate him. I would say that there's no way that Dr. Steve comes back on for a while to to be humiliated. No because Alex is going to want to do a whole oh I just sell fucking vitamins do I. Is that what I do.
Starting point is 01:58:20 There'll be a long break. You won't see him for a while. But also I don't think it would work in Alex's interests to humiliate him either because you know there'll be a little splash back on the info war. Sure. Why do you even talk to this guy? Why do you take anything he says seriously? True. Fucking liar. But Alex is also petty to the point of throwing his entire life away. True. Yeah it's competing forces. I don't know exactly how it goes. We'll see how we'll see what wins out in the end. So this gave me chills. Alex is talking about like he's trying to ask Steve a question he's like Steve you're a nice guy and then Steve has to remind him am I. Dr. Pachennick you're a nice guy and a smart guy but I just I don't think you mean bad. I just think you're being overly
Starting point is 01:59:04 optimistic here so we're going to find out in seven days and seven days you're coming back on aren't you. Absolutely but remember one thing about me. How is a very nice guy able to take out the Khmer Rouge without any weapons able to take out the Soviet Union without any weapons able to take out Noriega without any weapons. What do you understand what this nice guy does. Do you understand. Yeah I'm a nice guy. I'm going to answer that. I fuck with people. I'm going to answer that riddle Dan. I'm going to go with he doesn't know. No but but he's the what the message of that is I appear to be a nice guy but I'm a sociopath. I was going to go with the message was more I didn't actually do any of those things. No but Alex is so gullible that like someone like Steve would be
Starting point is 01:59:56 able to manipulate him pretty easily. That's true. I mean if he can get him to believe that he's done all these things geopolitically like yeah I've been malevolently fucking with you the way that you think I would have if I took down the Soviet Union. Yeah exactly. Yeah I'm not a nice guy. No I'm an asshole. Yeah I just told you that you sold vitamins dickwad. Yeah so Alex wants to know how Biden's not going to be president because he wants specifics. I would like specifics. We learn instead about Steve's pets. That sounds right. I'm trying to figure out so you can't tell us how this magic's going to happen and Joe Biden's going to step down in seven days and explain to me the details. I just said it to you. You're perseverating Alex. I said to you
Starting point is 02:00:39 there will be arrests of the Biden's the Pelosi's. It's going on now. He will not come to the presidency. I hope you're right. Can we meet your cat please. I only have two. I have two cats and three dogs. So Alex I think got a little uncomfortable because Steve is basically just disseminating Q shit on his show. So what's what's Mrs. Pachetic feeling like. I don't know man. I would like to know what her day to day is like. Yeah I don't know. I there's a little bit of curiosity but also I don't care you know like personal lives and stuff. Totally. I just see them. I just see them both like on the back porch laughing about how they're fucking with Alex. Absolutely like like they both got their books. Yeah and Tom Clancy
Starting point is 02:01:28 novels. Exactly. Steve's got a lit cigarette over there just burning slow and then they both stop for one second and Steve just looks up and he just goes oh my god you have no idea what I'm going to tell Alex tomorrow. It is going to be hilarious. I'm going to tell them we arrested the pope a year ago. I am going to tell Alex we arrested the fucking pope. Yeah and she loses her shit. That'd be great. So Steve is a doctor. He has a doctorate and he thinks that that means something. Either I'm a genius or I just see ordinary problems and say you know what you're wrong. That's what allowed me to be a doctor and what does a doctor really do. He saves lives and he can kill lives. You better think very carefully that this nice guy is what he may or
Starting point is 02:02:16 may not feed. Whoa. Steve is saying that because he's a doctor he has the right to give and take lives. Some people tell you about this oath that you take when you become a doctor Dan and they're wrong. Sometimes you kill for pleasure or gain. Those are the reasons you become a doctor. I don't know if doctors get the right to kill. So Steve insists that there will be arrests before the inauguration. So we got a real clock on that one. Closing comments here. We're going to see some we're going to see some fireworks in the next seven days. Now you're not going to see fireworks. You're going to see a lot of arrests and it's going to be quiet and you're going to see martial law. We've clamped down the cities you already see in Washington. It's clamped down. We clamped
Starting point is 02:03:09 down in Berlin. We clamped down in Pakistan. We clamped down in Italy and now you will also make another prediction. This nice man. The Italian government will fall apart within 24 hours. Other than that Alex I've had a wonderful time and I hope to see you again. Go fuck yourself. I'm going to throw this one last Bob shell out to you. Italy gone tomorrow in a day and also fuck you. I've had a very great time explaining to you that I've been fucking with you for decades and you can't do shit. Oh that's a good interview. It is pretty good. I would feel pretty confident if I was Stevie P's at the end of that one. Yeah. And I think that Alex is so taken aback that all he
Starting point is 02:03:55 can do is really like the spider to talk about your cats. Let me ask you a question. What is your cats? The cat that was on the TV's name? Geronimo. Geronimo. That's cultural appropriation. You got. What's the other cat? What's the other cat's name? Nona meaning no name. She's about four years old. Well you should nominate Nona to be the first female president. You know what? I love you Alex. Could you stodge a coup for his daughter Pachining and put your kid in as the president? You're a little snippy. No, I want to really have a real president for the first time. We haven't had a real president in 50 years. Neither the Bushes, the Clintons, the Obamas, the Bidens, none of them were real presidents. Now you're going to see a real president.
Starting point is 02:04:49 So what Alex was doing there was kind of trying to take back power in the dynamics. Like would you stage a coup to put your cat in? Yeah, it's sort of mocking the resume that Alex has given Steve and it's ineffective. No, he's already empowered Steve way too much. Steve doesn't give a shit. No, try and make fun of me. I just said Italy was going to be gone tomorrow. I arrested the Pope a year ago. What do you got on me? Oh, you're going to make me feel stupid. I just said that the Pope has been gone for a year and told you that even though, yes, you have seen the Pope around, you haven't seen anybody. Yep. And this just leaves Alex in a bind. All right, my friends, I'm Alex Schoen, your host. That was a wild interview. I sure hope Dr. Pachining's right.
Starting point is 02:05:33 You know, mainstream media and the globalists want us to believe whatever they say and they tell us many big lies. That it makes you get to the point where you don't even know what the truth is anymore. Is it wishful thinking? Is it hoping? That guy's been involved in overthrow governments? A lot of the big stuff. I mean, I don't want a military coup. We're already under a Chinese globalist coup. So I just don't know what to say about any of it. I'm just here covering it. He's so pathetic. Yeah, that's sad. He can't even operate as a sincere person because to attack Steve raises too many questions about his own credibility and all of the conspiracies that he's based on Steve over the years. So he's stuck in a lurch where he has to be, well, I hope he's
Starting point is 02:06:13 right. It could happen. If Steve is what you pretend he is, there is no hoping. He's not saying these things like, oh, maybe this. No. He's saying he did it. He did it and he's doing it. Exactly. And you're still being used. The fact that you're, how could you not? I just don't understand how you could let somebody say, I have been using you for 20 years to your face and not be like, then go fuck yourself. Well, in many ways, this is kind of like the Nigerian email scam. I think we just hit the button and the show is over. I think you just did it. I think you just nailed it. That's full circle. It's all over. So after this, Alex has an interview with Laura Loomer, but I don't really care. She's just complaining about how she had a tough time
Starting point is 02:07:03 at the airport and I don't care. Yeah. It's a zero and especially after that epic interview with Steve. Yeah. No, we can't. No. Wow. I can't wait. I can't wait to see what happens. Like not, I mean, I don't think that, you know, Trump's sting operation is real and kind of doubt it. Yeah. I think, I think the inauguration will happen and I just want to see how they deal with it. I'm going to guess denial. I'm going to guess that they pretend that this didn't happen. Sure. This interview didn't happen. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Steve will disappear for a month or two. Yeah. And then he'll come back with a new narrative of some sort, much like a pro wrestler whose character has grown weary. Yeah. They'll get repackaged. They'll come up with a new character
Starting point is 02:07:46 and show back up in a few months. Yeah. I just don't understand. See, now the thing that confuses me maybe more than anything else now is after seeing the events of the sixth and how Trump has decided to pout, why would you want to install him as your dictator? Like, I mean, why would you want a fucking powder to be your dictator? I think that's pathetic. Yeah. I think that Steve thinks it's all like the art of war, sun, zoo kind of stuff. And so like, and I think that's also pretty popular in the queue communities and make yourself look weak when you're strong. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Sure. I get that. And I know he was expressing a little bit of that stuff on the episode. And so like he Trump's doing this stuff, because that's what he's got to do
Starting point is 02:08:35 to give the appearances to pull off, you know, share, share. And so I guess you can rationalize that way, but that's only going to work for so long. Yeah. I mean, especially considering the sheer number of times we have seen him pout when he doesn't get his way. It's a whiny little titty baby. Yeah. So we will be back, Jordan, but until then we have a website. We do have a website. It's knowledge fight.com. Yeah. We're also on Twitter. We are on Twitter. It's that knowledge of your fight and that go to bed, Jordan. We're also on Facebook. We are on Facebook. It's how I choose Reddit. If you could please find a local charity or bail fund in your area to help out people doing God's work right now. Yeah. We'll be back. But until then, I'm Neo.
Starting point is 02:09:13 I'm Leo. I'm DZX Clark. I'm Daryl Rundis. I arrested the Pope a year ago. Andy in Kansas. You're on the air. Thanks for holding. Hello, Alex. I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you.

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