Knowledge Fight - #526: January 28-31, 2021

Episode Date: February 2, 2021

Today, Dan and Jordan check in on how things are going as Alex Jones engages in round two of his attempts to talk to Boogaloo types. For good measure, he also lies about vaccines a bit and keeps trying to argue that Trump should make his impeachment trial a circus. 

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a quick question for you. What's up? What's your bright spot this morning? Well, this morning my bright spot, Jordan is we're recording this. You know, and it's delayed and I appreciate everybody's understanding the weather in Chicago was such that recording last night would have been a disaster on unnecessary risk in terms of transportation. Yeah. And my bright spot, I guess, is that because of that little scheduling mix up shake up, I was able to watch a little bit of the Royal Rumble last night. Okay. And so I got to I love a Royal Rumble. We know the one where 30 people run in every five minutes or whatever. Every two minutes every two or three minutes. Yeah. Time is fake. Who is it? It's all fake. Who is the person

this time who ran in and within less than five seconds is gone? I don't know if it was less than five seconds, but the sort of joke elimination person. There's always one. The hurricane. Okay, the character who's a superhero. But wait, a guy named the hurricane was tossed out quickly. Well, it's not Ruben Carter. There's a guy named Hurricane. And yeah, he he's a sort of goof character who is a superhero. Sure. And yeah, he got he got eliminated pretty fast. That'll happen. But yeah, I love a Royal Rumble. I do enjoy the the the pace of it. I like the idea of people just keep coming. Sure. Theme songs kick in. My favorite thing is nonstop. Yeah. There's exciting returns and and, you know, there's a lot of potential for good storytelling in that

structure. And yeah, so I enjoyed. I enjoyed it. I don't know. A lot of people probably asking if I have thoughts about it. I don't. I don't have thoughts about it. It just was hurricane was my favorite character. For sure. Yeah. So yeah, it was it was it was fun though. It was nice. Good. How about you? What's your bright spot? My bright spot then is a movie called P. G. Colin Psycho Gorman. And it is you guys. You guys listening cannot tell that you're just leaned in very hard serious. This is a serious. It's one of those movies that was made by just somebody for fifty bucks or whatever. And it is a live action cartoon that is very occasionally incredibly funny in a dry deadpan way and also incredibly terrible. But it's one of those movies

that I'm not going to recommend anybody watch. But I'm so happy it exists. What year are we talking about now? Whoa. Immediately. So it's recent. This is recent. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. And it's just it's just wild and out there. And I'm say it's one of those things where you're just happy that something like that is real. You know, if it didn't exist, I've thought about willing something like that into existence before. Do you think that this has a possibility of becoming a cult classic? I do not. It's not aggressive. It's not good. And people aren't going to watch it or enjoy it. But it's it's there, man. Wow. It's a high praise. It's important to be there. It's important for it to exist. I don't know how to describe something more aptly. I feel like I

understand exactly what you're talking about. And I have no idea what this thing is exactly. So Jordan. Today we got an episode to go over. We're going to be talking about the time span between January 28th and 31st 2021. Blackjack. Yeah. Damn it. I was actually my plan on the way here. I was like when he starts, I'm going to go. Blah. And then when you're done, I go back, back fired, failed miserably. We're not actually going to be talking about the 29th on Friday because that was a travel day for Alex coming back from Utah vacation. Sure. We're also not going to be talking about the 30th because that was Saturday. Although I do have a little bit of something to say. Alex did a special report with Stuart Rhodes, she'll keepers in studio where they did running

commentary over a documentary about the lockdown or something. Sure. I was watching it and I was thinking like maybe, maybe we'll cover this, but it's just the two of them having kind of a casual conversation about secession. And it's great. It's great. Not really. Beyond just saying that they did that and that Stuart Rhodes is standing by these oath keepers who got arrested. Of course. Of course. Storming the capital. That's all they really need to know. I imagine he wakes up every morning is like, Hey, they didn't get me yet. That's it. That's his life now. Oh, the other thing that was worth, uh, pointing out is that Stuart Rhodes was saying that like what you should do is throw a big rave. Sure. And then when the police come to shut it down, shoot at him. Basically was

very croaching on your right to live freely. And then, you know, all right, started off. So here's what we do. We set a trap for the law. That's basically his version of like, uh, civil disobedience is that, uh, do something that will attract the police. And when they try to arrest you, uh, start fighting. Okay. So here's what we do. We hold a big rave, but before that we dig some trenches right outside the wave and then put some wooden spikes in there and then cover it with leaves. And when the cops come, they'll all fall and impale themselves. It's a proud plan. Now Stuart, I like your plan. Have you considered a quicksand instead of spikes? I find that quicksand works better destroys the evidence. Uh, Derek actually came up with a moat

and, but it's just too much. I love moats. Now, have you considered this? I know a guy who likes to hoist safes, get a, get a pulley system going. Have a safe hanging way up in there. I'm liking it. I'm liking it. Sometimes people use pianos. All right. Sometimes people use pianos. I love pianos. There is a possibility as well. When the cops come, drop the piano or safe. Also, we need to have two people walking by holding a very, very pain of glass. I do like the idea that just turns it to loony tunes. Yeah. There's a watermelon cart. Yeah. The whole thing. Someone walks through with a bunch of pies. Um, yeah, it's, uh, it's not a good, um, special report by any means. It's not interesting and it's very long. Yeah. And, uh, we'll not be covering it. Yay. So

Jordan, uh, this episode, uh, we'll get down to business on it, but first, uh, let's take a little moment to say thank you to some folks who signed up and are supporting the show. That's a good idea. So first the Bosch key. Thank you so much. You are now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you so much. Next. Aaron P. Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thanks, Aaron. Next. Uh, the Watson, Alex had to go full tilt boogie on. Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you. The Watson that has to go up till boogie on. Zach, the axe. Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you. Zach. Thank you, Zach. And uh, also, uh, someone who donated on an elevated level, uh, actually

bequeathed their, uh, their shout out in a way that I think is really cool. So I'm still going to give them a shout out. Tom, you're, you're a technocrat. Tom. Um, but Tom wanted to, uh, give a shout out to Chicago bond.org, which is the Chicago community bail fund. Um, and I know that we've brought up, you know, like, uh, donate to a local charity bail fund in your area. Um, but yeah, that's a specific one here in the city of Chicago. And yeah, I donated that one. And it's something that, uh, you know, pointing, pointing out a specific, maybe helpful in terms of like, you know, recognizing people in your area. There is an, uh, analogous version of this. So, uh, please, uh, if you feel something client, uh, check out the local, uh, bail fund in your

area. Please do. And, uh, I guess Chicago bail fund. You're a technocrat. Uh, sure. I'm a policy wonk. Crocky, mate. That's fantastic. Have yourself a brew. How's your 401k doing, bro? All right. We got to go full tilt boogie on this Watson. All right. Let's just get down to business. We ain't making that money off that heroin. Why are you pimp so good? My neck is freakishly large. I declare info war on you. Thank you so much, Tom and the Chicago bail fund. Yes. Thank you very much to the community bail fund community bail fund. Um, and then, uh, another thing we, uh, should take care of here up top, Jordan is, uh, we've got a couple of, uh, wonks out there who are celebrating the rotation around the sun. Indeed. First, Matthias got in touch with us

and wanted us to give a shout out to Anna who had a birthday actually Sunday yesterday. Yeah. As we're recording this, we would have recorded it on the day of your birth. Yes. So happy birthday. Either way. Yes. Absolutely. I hope you have a better 2021 than 2020 blackjack agreed. Uh, don't you dare. Don't you dare fucking. Kevin kneeling me with your your subliminal black black jacks. Um, and then Maria reached out and wanted us to wish a happy birthday to Eric. And that's Eric with an a, uh, his birthday is actually tomorrow, uh, February 2nd. And I got to say, Eric, if you're listening, get to fucking work on your thesis, get to work on your history thesis. You've been slacking off too long. Yeah. What are we

going to be positive? Get to fucking work. I like that Maria asked that we wish him luck. Yep. Instead I've decided to scold. Yeah. Get that thesis done. That's how we do it. Absolutely. Also good luck on that thesis for sure. Happy birthday to you. Uh, and also to Anna and everybody else who's celebrating a birthday here in 21, 21 blackjack. There's one goddamn it, Dan. There's one birthday wish from a, uh, David O'Daharty, uh, who says that every, uh, song should have a recognition of, uh, death as well. And, uh, his song for happy birthday is happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you. Did you know that the rate of prostate cancer in men over the age of 85 is 100%. So there you go. Happy birthday. What a downer. Anyway, here's another context drop from

today's show. Burn in hell, Frederick Nietzsche and Joe Biden and the rest of you Satanist. Wow. Quite a, quite a Nietzsche and Biden. Quite a grouping. That's a, that's a list of, uh, the, the two luminaries of philosophical thought, I think. When I think of Nietzsche, I think of Biden. When I think of Biden, I think of Nietzsche. Of course. Yeah. What is Biden but the Uber Mench. Indeed. Yeah. So here we start on the 28th. Uh, Alex has, uh, kind of figured out that at this point that, uh, oh boy, some oath keepers got arrested because they stormed the Capitol. Yeah. I got to figure out how this works. Proud boys, nuts, boogaloo. We're straight up oath keepers. And, and with a lot of these other groups, he's sort of been able to figure out how to

thread the needle with Q and on. It's like, okay, yeah, it was all a setup with the proud boys. Ah, Enrique Tarrio. He is a fed totally, totally. Absolutely. Easy stuff. Yeah. With the Antifa, obviously I hate them already. They don't even need to exist for me to hate them. Yeah. Oath keepers are a little bit more difficult because Alex's long time friends with Stuart Rhodes. He's been a huge promoter of them. And so he kind of has got to be like, Hey, somebody infiltrated them. The oath keepers have had three of their group indicted, uh, for going into the Capitol. And of course they have informants of people claiming that they were training, um, months before there's some type of capital incursion. Who knows if any

of that's true. But the point is, is that they are sending infiltrators into every major organization. So yeah, who knows? Could be, could be anybody. Yeah. Yeah. Right. We're always, we're always infiltrating strong, strong take out. So I was, I was kind of confused when I launched into this episode because the day before this, Alex had interviewed the Boogaloo boy, Mike Dunn. Um, and as I was listening back as I did in the episode, I realized that we missed a real great opportunity for a Mike Dunn, Mike Down. Did we miss a great opportunity or did we just miss a, an okay opportunity? Yeah, I might have just been okay, but it was there on the table and we, we missed it.

That's true. Um, Alex had been humiliated and brow beaten by this guy. I was like, okay, I know that he's going to interview another Boogaloo dude on this 28th, January 28th episode. He's like, okay, let's get to it. And he does not get to it. Instead, this kind of seems to be where his head's at. And for me, let me just lay out what I think is biggest and first and foremost, Trump, if he gets off the defense, could be the president of the world as Chris Ruddy Max said in a very important interview that's gone viral last night. We should grab that. Chris Ruddy interview, it's on Newsmax. He's got about a million views as of this morning when I watch it five a.m. And he says, Trump can now be president of the world. That's actually

a true statement. He has that level of leadership and that level of popularity if he'll just do it and grab the bull by the horns. What the fuck are you talking about? All right. Okay. So if I understand correctly, Trump can become president of the world because of his power and popularity. Yeah. So Xi Jinping is just going to be like, Hey man, I, I, you're just got to be the president of the world. You got it. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. They're all going to jump on board. I get it. Listen, I'm aggressively against your policies and I think you're a toxic influence, but is he the president of Burma now? Is that how this goes? Myanmar? I know. Whenever it's taken over by a junta, bam, you make an interesting point. Yeah. I would say

that first of all, president of the world doesn't exist. President of the world being a position implies world government. I would say that would be him being a globalist. If, if anyone could be a globalist, it would be president of the world. I don't want like Obama to be the president of the world. I don't want Hillary to be the president of the world. Absolutely not. But I do remember a lot of time spent on info wars where Alex was talking about how Hillary was going to be the president. Sure. And then Bill was going to become the secretary general of the UN. Yep. And then they would be together the president of the world. You got this was evil. Yeah. Yeah. Now Alex is, I guess, excited about Trump being the president of the world, which again doesn't exist. No.

Oh boy. Very dumb, which it is. Is he going to get the whole world on board? Or like, what is he going to do with the holdouts? I guess conquer them. Yeah, he would have to. Yeah. I mean, it's yeah. There's a lot of, there's a lot of stuff that goes unspoken. I'll tell you, if there's one thing I know about Eritrea, they're not backing down. Switzerland going to try to stay neutral. So, um, high minded concerns, Trump, uh, and the possibility of being the president of the world. Sure. Certainly very serious. Also, Alex is a little bit petty. I'm told by sources close to Biden that he has to read a teleprompter speech up to five times before he can give one that's half decent. Like he gave that

very short, shortest really ever inaugural speech I've heard of. I mean, Trump was over an hour long. Biden's was less than 10 minutes. Yeah. And that's because he had to rehearse that at least five times. When he's not rehearsed, folks, he doesn't know what planet he is on. Is it possible that Trump's was too long? Why is preparation the worst thing a human can do in Alex's world? Yeah. That, that is so bizarre. Like, yeah. Oh, he took it seriously. You know what? I'm going to go, I'm going to go crazy on Alex. Let me tell you this. I've got maybe 45 minutes of material. It took me 10 years to write that. And I've practiced it way more than five times. Yeah. One of the things about performance is oftentimes you

prepare to appear unprepared or to prepare like you want to feel natural. Yes. I don't understand. You have to say something a million times to make it sound like you're saying it the first time. There's a very big difference between somebody who is desperately unprepared and off the cuff and somebody who is able to do things off the cuff. Yeah. I don't, I don't, this particular instance too is very bizarre to me because it's the inauguration speech. Yeah. That's probably one of the most important, biggest sort of highest respect speeches. It's kind of a big deal that you're going to give, especially in the early times of your presidency. You're going to set the course, maybe give a thesis for like what you want to achieve in your time in August,

set the tone. I don't want somebody just being like, ah, fuck it. I'm going to rant. I think that what Alex is saying is a bad thing about Biden is actually a really good. I would argue that someone who gives a 10 minute speech over someone who gives an hour speech is always better and maybe the preparation allowed him to parse it down to 10 minutes, maybe trim the fat. Yeah. We're editing is about getting rid of stuff. Yeah. So now that Alex knows that the oath keepers were there and arrested and that's going to be infiltrators. Maybe we'll see how Stewart Alex has got to kind of adjust the narrative a little bit. And what I think is really funny about this is that Alex has to keep changing the narrative

whenever new groups of right wing people are proven to have been there and arrested. There's an issue there. So here's the newest version. If we just don't let them use this capital event, that they clearly infiltrated Patriot groups. They used Antifa to lead the chance. They got two or three people from each large Patriot group. Mughaloo's quasi Patriot. Oh, and Troyer people in there. But I think overall it's being controlled. The the the oath keepers who've been a great organization. They've really stood to remember the LM being set up a great job led by Stuart Rhodes. And then, of course, you've got the proud boys that are good people overall. But it's perfect to be set up and infiltrated. And I've reviewed all the footage.

There were Mughaloo's. There were proud boys. And there were three oath keepers out of the organization of tens of thousands. It's true, though, that that that did lead the break into the Capitol. And I've spent hours again last night this morning. And now that it's all codified, now that it's all come out, I actually got tears in my eyes this morning, having to watch a Wall Street Journal report that shows the three proud boys being instrumental breaking into the Capitol. And they can say, oh, we showed them and all this stuff. They're not all fed. Some of them are just useful idiots that got caught up in the mob psychology. But we're not going to be like the media and lie about things and just say it was all provocative. It was all staged. If some of it

was people being foolish. What he's trying to imply, and he does on this episode, is that the people who are leading the charge, there's a couple of people from each group that they had got set up to make everyone in those groups look guilty. Correct. This is complicated. So every single right wing group was infiltrated and then led to the Capitol to overthrow the government. Right. Now, let me ask you this question, Dan. Yeah. Why was it so easy to lead them to the Capitol? Is it maybe because they wanted to do it? I mean, obviously, yes, it's not entrapment, even if Alex's complete nonsensical conspiracy is true. But also none of that is true. They just did it. No, you guys tried and you failed. That's it. You tried to overthrow a country,

but you're not a yunta. So you failed the end. Yeah. And also, I don't feel like Joe Biggs would like this kind of tone from Alex because it implies that at best he's a useful idiot. Yeah. He's calling everybody what it this is almost like the revenge of Stevie P's like now you're all useful idiots. I'm still the smart one. Damn it. I'm still standing. Yeah. Joe Biggs has got to like I got to imagine he's going to have some complicated therapy in prison about his relationship with Alex because he gets fired for bid for wars because of pizza gate stuff or he leaves. He tries to start his own news operation that Alex kind of is associated with but is like I don't know. Keep it in arms distance. Yeah. The Proud Boys show up. He decides

I'm jumping in both feet. Why not? He rises through the ranks of the Proud Boys becomes like really high up in the Proud Boys makes a name for himself in the in the aggressive, dangerous, right wing community and then storms the Capitol and goes to prison. Wow. It's so crazy that when it becomes convenient they just cut loose. Yeah. Isn't it so weird? They don't have that loyalty or anything like that. Who would have guessed? Yeah. Who could have seen that coming? We've seen it happen with all of these groups as Alex learns more and more. One by one they fall. So someone who is loyal to a fault someone who is just just you know true true as the day is long. I don't know. Sure. Why not? Roger Stone is back. Okay. And he kind of wants to imply that

everybody who's into history is a secret leftist. Okay. They want to erase this record in one word impeachment. Nixon impeachment. Trump impeachment. It's not right and it's not fair. And we know that history is written by the left. The historians are leftists. Some of some authors like Rick Perlstein pose as historians. They're not historians. They're propagandists. We can't let this happen. You see I think this last final battle for the president is crucial for his legacy. There is this battle of a historical pushing that you see that is that is a really it's an interesting thing that seems to be at least subtly behind a lot of these these right wing figures that I find this very interesting the way like sort of Alex believes in lower as being real. Yeah.

And just completely false versions of history. Roger is attacking historians as the left. Yeah. Yeah. I mean the problem is history is left leaning. The more you read about history the more you're like oh those fascists are bad and the more you see the fascists you're like oh in the modern times the people who are doing the fascism are Roger Stone and his ilk. So it kind of does seem like it's in their interest to portray all of history is evil. Yeah. I mean history is unkind to those who want to cling to biases and bigotries of the past. Totally. And I mean pretty clear. Anyway Alex is wants to talk to Roger about the impeachment trial. The impeachment trial is foremost in his mind and he really wants this fucking thing to be a circus. He really wants

Trump to kind of want it to be out of order. I wanted to be a circus too. I don't I wonder what would be the most sort of politically useful thing for the sort of policies that we would like. Sure. Sure. Would it be more effective for it just to be sort of quiet and go through like the process or would it be effective. I think if it's a circus it's probably more effective in splintering the the GOP. Yeah. Yeah. I think that it would lead to such an embarrassing showcase that you know people in the Senate would have much more baggage for not voting to convict. Oh yeah. Absolutely. And I think that maybe that would be politically useful but I'm not positive. It would also be a pretty embarrassing thing just to watch. I mean for the concept of justice which if you

don't have a kind of shared element of justice a society can't function. So the idea of holding like a two day little like hey Trump your evil 5545 you're acquitted is so offensive to the concept of justice that it's like why. Why believe that any punishment will ever come to these evil rights. I'm not even trying to predict or talk about like conviction or acquittal. I'm talking about the strategy of Trump. No totally there. That's what I'm saying about a two day trial or something like that. That's so offensive to me of like we have evidence that is incontrovertible. I guess I guess what you're saying makes sense. Like a two day trial with an acquittal or whatever is kind of it's where as whereas a week two week trial where Trump is going crazy. Yeah.

Screaming nonsense conspiracy theories and then an acquittal could be toxic to the people who voted for acquittal. Here's the biggest reason. Here's the biggest reason. I don't know how long Trump can be quiet for his lawyers. True. So the shorter lawyers. Wow. He's got two and Barnes is coming baby. I think they all quit. Well I think the five quit and now he got two like yesterday or something like that. But probably great lawyers. Yeah. Oh yeah. Gotta assume. But like the longer it goes on the more likely Trump is to be like I've got something to say and once we get there then the fireworks start happening left and right. He is going to be Barnes isn't it. It's totally going to be Barnes. I feel it in my bones. Yeah. I can't wait to say good job Barnes

or good work Barnes. Barnes is going to try an impeachment. Oh it's going to be so good. And I think Trump needs to go in there swinging and saying I'm the guy that's pro law in order. I'm the guy that was trying to expose this election fraud. He can use that as a place to put on the evidence of election fraud as well. They're not going to be able to tell him to shut up. This would be spectacular. This would be the ultimate reality TV show. And according to many scholars he could get up to two months of the time to put on his evidence properly. Hell yeah. He doesn't agree up front to just let a few lawyers represent him. If he does that they're going to hang him out to dry. What do you think. I think that they can tell him to shut up. Yes they

can. Like if someone is being completely uncooperative and just being like out of order you could try him in absentia. No. Haven't you seen like haven't you ever been to a court. You know one of those quick traffic courts where they go all day. You're allowed to just scream for as long as you want. Up to two months. Yeah. And they can't do anything to such thing as contempt of course. Nope. Not at all. Especially not in the Senate. It's a crucial loophole that we refuse to close. But if you just misbehave in court. Yep. You get off. You wait him out. Yeah. Yeah. Some people say two will gain. Some people just wait him out. Some people go. I filibuster. This is a court sir. Yeah. I don't think this is a good idea. I do. I think this is dumb in terms of the goals that

Alex has. I think it's in the real world. It would probably be unproductive. And I think that there's another idea that's going around that also would be unproductive to the goals that Alex has. Although because I'm against those goals. I think that maybe they should do it. Yeah. I'm not entirely sure. I'm egging you on. I have a bad idea. I haven't fully thought about or considered the logistics or the possibilities of this idea of the Patriot Party. Right. A Trump party splitting. But just from sort of a basic view. I think what you would end up doing is completely fracturing the right wing vote. Yeah. The conservative vote would not be unified and Democrats would probably run roughshod over almost every election. They might even get DC into statehood.

It seems like that would be a really bad decision in terms of the right. Electorally if they had a two month trial for Trump to present his evidence. They would have to talk real slow. I think Rudy could handle it. But the Roger is against this idea of the the Patriot Party which I think is probably good political instincts on his part. Totally. I think I think that there's a lot of dangers in terms of like were that party to get rolling and have any kind of actual foothold in power. Yeah. I think you could end up with a pretty terrifying Overton window kind of situation. But in terms of fracturing electoral power on the right I think that there's I think it would be dangerous for them. Yeah. And Roger realizes that.

Soros and the globalists don't fund third parties because they don't work. They might be a one issue you know deal to stop fracking or this or that so they'll fund it just to give it legitimacy to shut off our energy supplies like the Green Party. But when you pull back from this it's taking over parties you want to do. It's Soros and the globalists have taken over the Democrats that the Communist Chinese have taken them over. They're putting in their DA's. They're putting in their attorney generals. It's a nightmare. We need as American people to control at least one party. We almost got there with Trump. I agree. That's why they fear him so much. He wanted a landslide. So you're absolutely right. We do not need this third party. That is a nuclear option

down the road just for him to run for president or something if he had to. But he's not going to be barred from that. He's going to defeat this trial in the Senate. And I really think that he should run for governor or senator or maybe he should run against Rubio. I mean I really think we need to get President Trump back in back in D.C. That is what we need to be the real leader. I don't fucking understand why you think he has any interest in running against Marco Rubio. I mean maybe for the campaign he'd have fun with that. Sure. Sure. He doesn't want to be in the fucking Senate. Good God. No. Imagine. Imagine. Oh God. That'd be terrible. Yeah. What a nightmare that would be. He doesn't want to do like that would

be so much work and it's not all about Trump. No. No. You have to cooperate. There's a there's a minority whip who tells you what to do. Yeah. You're on the phone all the time trying to get donations and shit. Imagine that. Yeah. Can you imagine what kind of bills he would write to be in cram. Yeah. Brutal. Absolutely brutal. Bill to provide senators in Florida with free fast food. No. And it's so right. It's so right to be like no no no we need to maintain the two party system because as long as both parties are awful they can keep passing the ball back and forth. You know. So that means that they can still be owned by billionaires. If any party governed effectively the other party would be destroyed. You know like the Democrats already are like whoa

well I know we promised 2000 but let's do 1400 and you're like guys really are we doing this. Okay. We'll see the Republicans in two years. Thanks buddy. Good work. Good work you morons. Yeah. Stupid. It's a bummer. Yep. But Trump will not be a senator or governor. Absolutely not. Why would you run against DeSantis. If he runs for governor there's no way the state remains in the union. The end. If Trump is the governor of Florida he is the president of the United Florida. I'm moving Mar-a-Lago to Texas. Yeah exactly. There we will take our stand. I'm moving to the Alamo Texas. That's not the Alamo. Shit. Too close to the border. So Roger is weird because he doesn't want a third party like his patriot party is a bad idea.

But at the same time don't give any fucking money to the RNC. Oh no. Fuck them. Evil. Trump should be president of the world. Look I would not donate a penny to the Republican National Committee and I would urge those out there in the Info Wars audience to follow and sue. There is no chance that money is being spent effectively. Okay. Amazing points. But please go back to what Ruddy said about Trump could be really the president of the world for nationalism, for patriotism, for populism, for better trade deals. How would you be the president of the world for nationalism? Very weird. Very, very weird. As president of the world no one can move. I think it's probably a politically, I don't know, counterproductive to say hey we shouldn't

have a third party. We got to take over the Republican Party but also don't give the Republican Party any money. No. No. Let's make sure we don't support them but also we got to take them over. Yeah. We all got to give money to the right scam. Not the wrong one. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. So Alex, it gets mad here. Roger takes off because he's set his piece and Alex gets mad about Nancy Pelosi because she is not thrilled with there being members of the House who seem to have hostile intentions. Murdering intentions. Marjorie Green certainly has said some things that would make me feel unsafe in a work environment. Yeah. Nancy Pelosi is not happy about that and good for her because I don't think she should have to put up with that. Right. Right.

Then you have the Lauren Boebert of the world also not making you feel super safe. And so she in an interview said that the enemy is inside. Yeah. Yeah. You know, Alex is not thrilled about that. Not wrong. Not thrilled. Not wrong. Alex gets pretty mad about that. That's a pretty astounding clip of Pelosi saying that they need more security because of Republican Congress people. Hey lady, it was your supporter went and shot Scalise and tried to kill 18 others. You lying sack of garbage. Burn in hell Pelosi. And by that I mean you have judgment on you. I think God's sitting you to hell. That's what I mean by that. Okay. The thing that I think is interesting about that clip is it's one of a number of

times Alex has to over clarify stuff. Yeah. And I think it's because he realizes like shit. All right. So everybody is getting caught for doing the thing I told them to do. I better be real safe. I better better be real safe. Nancy Pelosi. You're going to burn an out and by that I mean I believe that God has it out for you and once you die your soul is going to have trouble. And in this circumstance I'm going to point you to Romans 12 16 because nobody gets mad at the Bible. Yeah. So Owen Schreuer has been sitting alongside. He's theoretically hosting the show and Alex is co-hosting but Alex is just doing everything. Sure. Sure. And Owen has some ideas that he wants to introduce to the proceedings about how unpopular Joe Biden is. He has some

primary evidence that I think is stupid. But you know getting back to the Biden issue here Alex I was looking at this today and I just have one little printout here. It doesn't really work for the printout but I was looking at Google search trends and if the crew wants to do this they can do this. I was looking at Google search trends. Biden as a Google search trend was almost non-existent in the year 2020 almost non-existent. Trump on the Google search trend is like number one. Oh but Biden had the most votes ever. And then the other thing I noticed Alex two of the top three word associations with Biden on the search trend is this what we're doing pedophilia and dementia. So the wonder why this guy is and and guys by the way lay that paper

back down. I know they can zoom in more lay it back down where you had it. I'm going to zoom in on it. I'm going to direct from Alex. They should just do this because it doesn't really look good on the printout. The things I don't care but I mean still zoom in on it. No they can do it. They can zoom in. That camera's got like five times more zoom. Just zoom in on that guys because this is huge. Yeah absolutely. Oh this is huge huge. Yeah Google trends. Trump put out an online poll where 98 percent of people said they wanted to be president. I don't understand how Biden won. Yeah it's impossible. It's impossible. 98 percent of Americans want Trump to be president. That's the only polls that I listen to this. Yeah this is this is an instance of taking something that

on its on the surface appears to be making an argument that Trump is far more popular than Biden. Yeah but also has no relevance. None to the larger issue that they're talking about. Nope. This is very dumb. Yeah. So we got some guests coming up after Roger. We got we got a couple of big big hitters. But I want to let listeners also know Stewart Rhodes founder roadkeepers will be joining us in the last 30 minutes of the next hour. We have another one of the Boogaloo leaders joining us to talk about what really happened at the Capitol. You know I have to say that the Boogaloo guy we had on your state did some cheap shots saying you know that I might be in the CIA or Fed. But I get from his perspective I'm saying that to him but only because you can't

swing a stick in any of these groups and not hit a Fed. I mean look at the Enrique Tario thing having out he's been a federal informant for many many years. Is he a bad guy. No I like him. But and that just goes with the territory ladies and gentlemen. What. It's the same thing with the Boogaloo. It's the same thing with any of this. Wow. That's weird. He is if he is a Fed informant a literal demon servant. I like that guy. He's a good guy. Look I don't know what Tario was up to. Like I don't know. Now I haven't I still haven't seen concrete evidence that he was informing on the Proud Boys. Still don't air either way from Alex's perspective. He has to think that he was. And that's the way that Alex is presenting this. Yeah. It makes no sense to be

like hey this guy was a snitch. He was infiltrating groups in order to make them look bad. Maybe even was instrumental in planning false flags. Demon servant. Good dude. Good dude. Good dude. He's a good guy. Hang out with him. He's a good guy. That makes no sense. No. Also is jarring to hear Alex be like look I talked to this Boogaloo guy. He said I was a fucking inside dude. Like I was false controlled opposition. And you know what. Hey I understand. I'm saying the same thing about him. And hey maybe he's cool. Yeah. You guys are doing great work together. You guys are doing great work together. What man. That's some that's some deep introspection. Softened really fast on this whole thing. Yeah. The Boogaloo boys were supposed to be his ticket

out of this. And now he's like I like these guys. We're all. Yeah. We're all in trouble. And I think one of the issues is sort of distorted views of what unity is possible or is pursuable. Right. And Owen Shroyer seems to be really on the unity kick right now. That seems to be his big project. He's talking about like reaching out to Black Lives Matter and like and folks on the left. So certain I saw. I heard him screaming fuck BLM. Oh yeah. And Antifa. I'm just positive that there was a flag involved. They burned it. I think they burned a flag. Oh yeah. And now they're going to want to reach out. OK good. And Alex is kind of like yeah. Shit. I'm supposed to be above partisan politics. That's supposed to be a whole thing. What happened. I mean I want unity.

I don't want to fight with the average Democrat. We need a populist movement that is for common sense in this country. All demons are bringing that up because we get so part of them especially under the last few years with Trump that that's something that actually energized the worst elements of the Soros left to kind of take over the populist liberals and who are on average not bad people and I think can be reached out to. What do you think. I think that the reality of what Alex is talking about is I miss when some people on the left were tricked by my opposition to the Iraq war. I miss back when I could yell about George Bush and I could be deemed not an incredibly insane extreme right wing zealot. Yeah there was a time there

where I wasn't in the pocket of somebody whose boot I was looking. I miss having the facade of rationality because I was to the right of George W. Bush. Yep. Yeah this is this is silly. Yeah I will I will accept a unity from these people when they apologize publicly and make amends for it and correct their mistakes. Then we can be unified again until then go fuck yourselves. So speaking of unity Owen believes that he sees opportunity in the GameStop and Robin Hood situation in order to bring people into the fold. This disillusionment with the perceived fairness of the stock market is something that he believes that they can use to bring people into the ranks of the Info Wars universe and I believe that that is

false unity. I believe that's you know the the kind of thing that you see constantly with anything that galvanizes people particularly online you'll see an attempt at infiltration of it by the right wing demagogue totally and I can see a bit of Owen seeing an opportunity there although I don't think that it's going to be effective and I also don't think it's going to be something that's going to be even discussed on Info Wars within a week. Yeah I would agree with that. So I don't care to talk about it too much because it's not really a big issue and it also is something that I just see it as being like this might be a wedge this might be something we can use and Owen just doesn't have the chops. So we get to the the next Boogaloo boy who comes in

he's a guy named Magnus Panvidia he's a guy fine yeah he is the Boogaloo boy who was recently interviewed on the Jimmy Dore show and it seems to be somebody who's making the rounds a bit in terms of like being someone who people will interview sure and I can understand why because he doesn't sound crazy which is I mean a plus for a for a public face of a group. Yeah if I was going to be the public face of a group whose main goal was a second civil war it would be wise to be like come on I'm a good dude I'm smart I'm conversational you guys can talk to me. I like all sorts of people yeah I seem rational as shit yeah and he has a different approach sort of a good cop bad cop kind of thing with Mike Dunn where Mike Dunn when he was on the day before was kind of being

brusque. Alex you're kind of a shitbag. Hey Alex we're the ones who are doing the shit that you pretend you do yeah and now that Alex has taken that lashing and also now has softened so much yeah now comes the balm the salve sure to make those those wounds feel better. Magnus give us your view on what the Boogaloo's really are and what you guys just did and what just unfolded. Activate the Boogaloo's. Yeah we're just kind of a libertarian anarchist coalition kind of a militia more of a movement we started off in the lockdowns then we expanded throughout the whole George Floyd and all the BLM events and we just continue to be operating on the ground as kind of a more unifying not right or left armed movement. Fuck you.

Well I kind of like that actually I want to get the left involved in liberals deprogrammed and into owning guns and self-defense. This isn't the way. No no no no no. I think that you already see a contradiction between what Mike Dunn was saying and what Magnus is saying. He's saying we got started in the lockdowns now this is this grew out of absolutely no jokes about a second civil war. I am not going to be told lies about your own history by a fucking accountant. That's what this dude sounds like. He sounds like a fucking accountant Dan. You're just saying that because the release the Boogaloo is a real dorky joke to start off. It is everything. Yeah. So Alex you know he's really making détente here. Sure. And in a lot of ways he talks about

he's talking about how like I had this bad feeling about Mike Dunn but I was wrong. Well I had Mike on yesterday and I got to say I thought he was probably a Fed or some probably lost center. I didn't approve of that. I just a lot of these groups get led by those but I didn't get that sense actually having him on. I got the sense he really believes in what he's doing and maybe I've been I'm not saying Boogaloo's are perfect because any big organization can get infiltrated but that maybe maybe you guys overall do have a good goal. My concern is are you guys acceleration is do you want a revolution. I mean we view not only that a revolution is inevitable but yes we want a revolution. It

just depends on what form that takes. We want it to be the most peaceful people's revolution is humanly possible but we're also not ignorant to the idea that the establishment is going to go after that. They're going to try to destroy it and they'll probably go on the offensive against us. So I just think that he's steamrolling Alex. Alex is just letting this guy have a have a very friendly platform to present this exactly how he wants to and it's it is unacceptable dissembling to be like we want a peaceful revolution but but no no that sentence ends with a period. Now if you want to continue that thought and say we want a peaceful revolution period we believe that there is going to be resistance to that we will fight that

peacefully then that's cool. Yeah there's there's two kinds of approaches that I see being possible when you have something like this group that is really interested in gun concerns and what have you second amendment stuff. Yeah you could have somebody who's like okay I disagree with open carry restrictions so we're going to get people together and we're going to have an open carry march right right. There's two things that can do two approaches you can take one is that we expect we're going to get arrested and then that arrest we will accept and we will use that to try and change laws right change public opinion by virtue of our arrest seeming unfair to most people or you could take the approach of we're going to do this and we're going to threaten people with

these guns that would be the way to do it yeah and if people try and arrest us someone might get shot yeah like I think the first might be productive right the first one is something that even if I disagree with your position on the open carry laws I don't see a problem with someone doing a demonstration in a protest like that yeah when it comes to like someone might get shot that's that's when we're we're in dangerous territory I mean you know like they're they're bullshit about unity and all that stuff I I think immediately to of Fred Hampton like Fred Hampton was a person who went into these second amendment groups these fucking militia groups and was like hey this is a class struggle this is about us and convinced

them and they joined him and then they acted peacefully and that's why Fred Hampton was murdered because it was them moving to the left if it's the other way around yeah we're in trouble there so Magnus believes and expresses that hey the man is trying to get everyone to fight with each other right sure sure uh Alex is like yeah okay cool cool cool cool cool but Antifa they hate the cops right what about you guys okay he does not get the answer he wants I imagine so the establishment right now is trying to get everyone to fight and kill each other instead of coming together against them they want all of these groups they want Antifa they want three percenters they want all of these groups to think the other side is the most evil thing in the world and it's you know

secretly attempting to destroy them so they can laugh all the way to the bank while we fight and kill each other huh and that's what we don't want well there's no doubt that's going on but I mean to Antifa says the local police are the enemy do you think that uh at at this point I find it hard to believe that the local police aren't the enemy like when when you look at gun confiscation a lot of local police are just going along with that and not saying anything when you look at lockdowns when you look at arresting people over a pot when you look at busting protests whether they be right wing or left wing protests very aggressively and laughing about it I've you know obviously I'm not saying that officer friendly in a small town that's never done anything wrong is some horrible individual

but when you look at the institution of policing across the entire country they've forsaken liberty in all directions see what's interesting here is that Magnus is coming in with a complex thought yeah that alex can't really deal with well he started with people are trying to divide the left and right saying both sides are the most evil people on the planet so they can never communicate with each other and while they're doing that they're laughing all the way to the bank right does that remind you of anyone Dan one thick-necked individual comes to mind indeed yeah the exact person that he's talking to has spent all of his time talking about how Antifa our methhead demon spawn yeah whatever yeah the leaving that aside like uh I I don't agree

and I'm not gonna side with uh Magnus but issues with uh policing are issues with police absolutely and alex can try and deny that kind of stuff as much as he wants but you know Magnus has a has a more interesting perspective on on um the police than alex I I would counsel very hard to remember this motherfucker is lying yeah he is he's he's saying he's making good points he's making good points maybe in the service of lies maybe not lying because I do believe that he does have problems with police sure it's disingenuous yeah that's more I think he's lying about what his his his intentions are yeah yeah no this is this is absolutely a fucking a bullshit way of being like see I listen to the problems on the left and we're gonna pay attention

to them when they join us we're gonna team up and solve those problems and I don't know Dan have we seen what happens when let's say right-wing grifters find something no longer useful a toss it aside odd yeah odd I would suggest that if you were thinking about uh them having good points maybe remember what they do whenever you're no longer useful yeah and uh I mean not for nothing in the wake of this dude being on Jimmy Doris show some people did look through his twitter and found him supporting Kyle Rittenhouse sure it's like I don't know man no I don't know nah it's unity yeah we're all about unity I don't know about this so uh for Alex though the question comes back to pretty constantly as it did with Mike who are you targeting I want to ask you about in a revolution

and what your goals would be of that revolution or that new declaration of independence and my concern is I never see people protesting big tech or I mean Apple runs slave factories in China and I'm not saying blow up Apple I don't want that but but but I mean if Uighurs bombed Apple they would have a real argument Apple runs the main slave camps so if Uighurs attacked Apple they would have a legitimate argument at the UN Hague that we're under attack we were attacking who's attacking us I'm not saying do that I'm just saying all the targets I heard the local police that sounds like a communist takeover of local government I'm not saying you're doing that that's what I'm concerned about stay right there sir we'll come right back to you no time for him

to respond to that diatribe nope and again it just comes down to Alex like his his his two issues seem to be like this isn't being directed by me and you're not targeting the people that I want you to target yeah yeah yeah my biggest issue uh is why isn't everybody doing what I say yeah they can be as explicitly anti-globalist like Mike Dunn was very clearly like I am against these global uh globalists uh and it doesn't matter because Alex doesn't see them blowing up no no you're not going after my stuff yeah can you imagine that's what Trump in the Senate would be like he's like why isn't everybody doing what I want to do that's the whole thing what's a quorum I am a narcissist I can't spell quorum so again pronounce quorum uh quaca yeah Alex uh you know

he his problem seems to be that like they have a revolution in mind revolution's probably good you should do it yeah but it's not my revolution that kind of is a problem yeah and then he makes an insane analogy we had uh mr. Dunn on yesterday and I really thought about it after the interview I thought I don't think that guy's a fed I think he's really pissed off about what's happened in the world and trying to unify everybody around one message uh and if they can successfully do that that'd be great I'm just really concerned about the goals of a revolution and and and who leads it I mean it'd be great if we had a bunch of state governors and respected generals and respected lawyers and the Confederacy you're literally describing

the Confederacy formed a new Declaration of Independence that's 100 the Confederacy over it's what are we doing over it's illegitimate the great resets illegal uh and so we you know reform our new union I mean we have that right uh I just see what happened at the Capitol which the boogaloo is bragged about being part of people can try to walk that back whatever it was the idiocy I wouldn't call it an assault I would call it a a pissing contest I would call it be like a I mean it was a little bit more intense than kind of that's what you call it other than them killing four citizens the cop have an heart attack wow a little more intense than what you see in in movies like Animal House I mean you know Animal House pranks are now like terrorism walking off of lecterns one cop

got squashed in the door there was some nastiness and fights it was wrong but uh not a new Pearl Harbor so so so Magnus see uh well you don't understand Jordan your your mouth is open as if in surprise but what you don't understand is that the storming of the Capitol was basically like you know how like in an old TV show you have like a panty raid sure it's basically a frat prank so so what Alex is saying quite inappropriate in hindsight is that the Patriots jumped the general lee over the Capitol building that's what we're describing here yeah yeah I mean basically it's like teaping yeah just basically yeah yeah a lot of cops die when teaping yeah basically the the right winger is just uh egged the Capitol hey what are you gonna do we were throwing a

little prank come on basically they waited until the Capitol passed out and then they put the Capitol's hand in some warm water wow wow just wild they waited until the Capitol passed out and then they put shaving cream on its hand and then tickled the Capitol with a feather I just don't know what to do when someone would try and say that like I just there's what it just I want to get a white glove and challenge him to a duel I don't know what to do about that yeah I would say that if this is just the like slightly above frat pranks why are you talking about it so much ah that's a good point also I don't remember why are you spending days and days trying to scapegoat a frat prank anyway um Alex has seen the interview with jimmy door that this guy did

and he loves it and even before I even went on jimmy door the only podcast I could even get on was a podcast called liberty lockdown which was a small decentralized podcast that they didn't have the ability to censor yeah let's talk about that that was a great interview you did with jimmy door yeah and and I'm so happy for him to have me come on because what has given me the ability to do is to break through all the mainstream media lies about us because there's extremist experts and journalists that have covered us all year long and have buckets for eight years of video and text evidence showing what our movement's about and it doesn't line up with what the mainstream media has all and they'll they'll directly quote these extremist

experts that work for DC and quote them on certain parts but when those same extremist experts say no we're not white supremacists yes we work with BLM they'll take those parts of their report and hide it and run us all rough shot across the media and I feel the same thing's been done to antifa I still feel the same thing's been done to three percenters I feel like the same thing's been done to BLM fuck you yeah fuck you yeah fuck you now if the criticism is that the mainstream media lacks some sort of nuance in reporting on groups particularly like the bugs yeah sure fine great um I don't know if you've broken through that by being on jimmy doors I would say no no I would argue no but then you know this is going to wind up with this dumbass being all over the

place I imagine with a bunch of easily taken advantage of morons like jimmy door yeah and maybe maybe the the sort of high point of it will be him going on tucker yeah or something yeah but I don't I don't know if I don't know if he has the escape trajectory to get out of that bubble very much doubt but that is interesting I mean like it does it does indicate like the kind of places that he has access to includes info wars yeah jimmy door yeah yeah yeah yeah that should that should put pause in a lot of people's minds it's not a good sign no no also hey buddy um I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that most white supremacists would deny it yeah and the the issue comes down to the the group is care the character of the group itself is not white supremacist

and a lot of I mean obviously there probably are a fair number of white supremacists who fall under the boogaloo hell yeah category and that that is is fair enough um but the group itself is not white nationalist white supremacist in character right and that is something that's the nuance that is kind of difficult for people who aren't engaged in these things to really to really uh delineate yeah and and that's where clunky conversations come in and you say like the white supremacist boogaloo group and then you kind of look like you don't know what you're talking about um it's difficult even for me to to fully understand where exactly a lot of the lines are so alex tries to have this conversation that is far nicer than the one with mike and

it's weird because the territory that magnus is getting into should be really hostile stuff for alex like magnus is defending antifa sure to alex jones indeed and that's weird this is a huge problem well you believe in free speech antifa doesn't it's funded by soros on record i mean that's the thing that that's the thing is like yeah that there might be infiltrated parts of it but you but that's the same for everything that's something you talked about and like when i go back to like your early works about the wto riots and how the police infiltrated the wto riots to cause chaos and false flag some of those same people that were at those wto riots in seattle are the same people that i talked to today that are part of antifa and they get really disillusioned

when they hear things about like oh all of antifa soros funded a lot of them talk just like you they hate the fed they hate global you know corporations they stand for free speech but fox news or something will put the camera on one guy that has a stupid opinion and be like oh they speak for all of antifa when it's when it's a global well i will invite any of those antifa on that'll actually talk to us i'd love to actually hear that if that exists this is a problem for alex because he has contracts no one is supposed to remember the things i say well that's a problem but also if alex actually believed that the quote unquote soros antifa contracts that harrison smith found on fourchan were real right this argument should not be compelling to him

yeah this argument should be like no do you understand i have contracts between alexander soros excuse me and george soros and their foundations and antifa in order to try and start martial law in america you sir don't know you're being tricked by the people on the ground who are who are old-time commies yeah that's that's how he should be behaving he shouldn't be he shouldn't be persuadable by stuff like this if anything that he believes means anything listen up magnus ver magnerson or whatever your name is let me tell you this right now everyone in antifa had to sign a contract i've got the document for you right here go ahead and read through the oh no i'm an idiot aren't i oh no that guy remembered something i said i think that alex probably

doesn't bring that stuff up because magnus would laugh in his face i don't think that it would be embarrassing that's why alex's narratives fall apart yeah like because they're built on nothing alex himself doesn't believe them and uh when presented with somebody who probably isn't gonna play along this is what i keep coming into is that like alex should not engage with zealots yeah he's a pretend zealot yes and he's going to get found out when you go up against a real one yes the end and that's why he can't bring out his real narratives that he uses all the time on his show because they'd be punctured so fast he's at an instant disadvantage and somehow he still believes when he has these people on that he's like nah i got him i can take care of it stupid so anyway um

the great reset is the problem or something sure there needs to be a revolution probably and magnus wants alex to work with antifa of course we should be able to unify everybody against the great reset is literally a corporate takeover to consolidate power under the name of environmentalism to literally bankrupt everyone and and have a universal income so they can dictate the terms of our surrender we have got to get everybody mobilizing against the great reset what is your view uh magnus about the great reset oh yeah and i i agree and it's funny enough because i had this conversation with an antifa member they agree too it's not that they're against the idea of like oh let's reset the system everywhere but they are perfectly aware of the people that are pushing

that idea of how all these multinational billion dollar banks and everything it's not a great oh yeah i love a reset exactly we need a reset we need a reset exactly i'm gonna hold you over but we need a reset but it's not this reset this is a horrible reset sorry go ahead there's a difference between a reset that involves rethinking our approach to climate issues rethinking our uh approach to what uh people need to live that kind of thing and a reset that involves a civil war yeah yeah those are very different and if you talk about them being like oh well hey these people are interested in a revolution just like us you're muddying the water is in a way that is incredibly unfair yeah and that is like when you engage in that kind of a disingenuous

sleight of hand it leads me to suspect that maybe a lot of the stuff that you're saying is not sincere yeah not genuine and that's one of the problems that i run into with uh magnus and in this next clip i think we really get to see this pretty clearly actually i was just on the phone with uh the woman that was at the wto riots and she said she would would be willing to come on and talk to you so if you want to talk to an anti-file member you can talk to an anti-file member please everyone and definitely like obviously the dictionary definition of acceleration nascentism might be correct but what everyone is calling us if by if by the criteria that you think everything is fundamentally flawed and it will not change without radical change then

literally everyone is accelerationist joe biden is an accelerationist aoc is an accelerationist ran paul's accelerationist like if you look at the world through that view everyone acknowledges that things are totally destroyed across the board when it comes to our economics everything exactly so like a lot of people say like oh you want a revolution you're an accelerationist i'm like everyone wants a revolution right now everyone's talking about it it trends on twitter constantly so this is another manipulative sleight of hand oh yeah the accelerationism that people are talking about when they talk about fringe right-wing groups and militias and that type is an accelerationism towards shooting violence it's an accelerationism that's rooted

in heightening tensions and highly tense situations and protests that have the potential to spin out of hand and prove to be an inciting event in a uh conflict between uh supposed sides of a civil war we see the water boiling and we want to push it over the edge that's the accelerationism that he's trying to make the same as accelerationism where you have people who are saying climate change is a problem that cannot be ignored any longer we need to elect leaders who are willing to explore ideas about regulation yes okay it's not the same recognizing that a system is flawed in many ways and we're past the point possibly even past the point where we can totally fix all of the issues sure is not the same as thinking everything is fucked and we should hope

for a civil war because uh it's gonna happen eventually so why not do it now i um that's dishonest 100 percent i i mean yeah i i understand this guy and you're you're 100 right good cop bad cop bullshit with these two but god i prefer the asshole from the other day it's funnier because he and also he's just gonna be like yeah fuck yeah let's blow it up you know like i don't like this lying piece of shit coming at me with his accountant but i think that mike was still lying to oh he was still trying to put on a a shinier facade oh 100 to what he actually is believing and promoting um but yeah this this is just intrinsically on like unfair yeah yeah like what he's what he's presenting and it's it's intentional um uh because he kind of understands

that there's a lot of alex's audience that's probably poachable no and it's hard to it's like bring up aoc and all i think of is ted cruz being like yeah i agree and aoc being like hey you tried to murder me go fuck yourself well guess what i get it you can bring up how antifa and blm are also against the fed or whatever it is you want but you tried to murder all of us so go fuck yourselves well but the and the other problem too is that i do i i do think that there probably are some accelerationist types on the left sure you can rationalize i'm sure way to that yeah like if you take the issue of like a climate change you can find eco fascists you can find eco terrorists yeah uh that's not the mainstream of and and you know i would say that probably the boogaloo

boys are a little bit outside of the strict mainstream of the right but they're closer than eco terrorists are to the mainstream of the left yes i would agree a great deal and and and comparing you know i don't know i i don't know if he would do this but comparing like i don't know uh gun wielding acceleration is to protest to gretta thunberg i think it's an unfair comparison a little bit different yeah a little bit different i remember gretta uh bringing in her ar to the un i remember that didn't she do that when she gave that speech yeah i recall so magnus wants peaceful options sure now again deeply a public representative of a group that is entirely based around the fantasy of a second civil war uh to the point where uh this this listener pointed

this out to me and i knew this but i failed to bring it up on our last episode you know even the wearing uh hawaiian shirts is about civil war it's the had to get around social media bands and so they had big luau instead of boogaloo yep like everything is about everything for these rocks yeah but he wants peaceful options okay and i think that uh he's one alex over to an embarrassing extent and we need to keep trying to push speechful options we need to keep finding cracks in the armor to be peaceful but they continue to shut those avenues down one after another or another if they keep doing that and that was my warning to them in that speech if they keep denying people redress keep denying people the ability to change things then you're

going to have civil conflict and it's going to be really bad for them for us and for everyone involved okay come back on because i'm i'm i'm really impressed and i'm i'm glad that you actually came on i'd love to have you on with the antifa lady we want to have them on we want to actually reach out to these folks because i understand that we can all drink the mainstream media koolaid at a certain point and need to actually hear what these groups actually stand for you're not drinking the mainstream media koolaid it's your koolaid yeah magnus has gotten alex so on the ropes that he's willing to work with antifa yeah i i mean doesn't china run antifa it's just it's hard not to see that like oh well you're just nicer to alex you know like he agree of course he agrees with

all of this shit theoretically in his mind you know but this guy's being nicer than mic done so well yeah you guys might have a good point you're being real deferential and i don't see you as a physical threat so i think we're good to go who knows like how this would have gone if magnus was the first one yeah talk to alex but i i don't think that this interview can be seen outside of the context of the prior one yeah that went very badly for alex 100 and it's not like i mean you'd have to be delusional to think that mic and magnus don't know each other yeah yeah we're probably laughing the night between these two interviews about alex getting can't believe you called him a controlled opposition to his face one more on okay now i'm gonna go on and tell him that antifa's

cool i saw i saw one interview he did with steve pochanic all you gotta do is say that he's a good dude who's super smart and then he'll believe anything yeah this is embarrassing yeah and alex is just stupid yeah so bad so uh speaking of dangerous bad interviews now stewart roads of the oath keepers comes in great good work alex is not into this idea that some of them got arrested and it's just kind of like i don't buy it shifting gears stewart roads is a retired constitutional lawyer award-winning researcher you name it what awards do you army veteran patriot founder of oath keepers it's always about nonviolent defensive protection of america since when you see the big news three oath keepers arrested plotting to kill members of congress led into a very good job there

at the capital just running around going whoo i don't buy any of that they all went whoo whoo they were like jeffrey osbourne can you whoa whoa whoa you know that song it is it's kind of astonishing do you remember that so quickly don't talk about jeffrey house people hand wave a literal violent coup yeah it's uh astonishing well it's so important for people like alex and people on the right to do that because it's so indicative of the sort of danger that they present to yeah a civil insane society someone could say that the enemy is with it it's very important that the hand waving happens i just don't understand why people who are on the other side don't keep stressing this uh in in in a really aggressive way cowardice money i think i think maybe but i

think also just kind of like we all are just exhausted that's part of it we're all just fucking tired this goddamn pandemic and then these guys took over the country and all i want to do is go to bed yeah a lot of the time whenever i'm you know getting an episode ready alex will say something i'm like uh yeah yeah and then i have to like deal with it yeah and i think that sometimes in life you run into walls like that and you just don't want to deal with it and i think that maybe some people don't want to deal with that and hand waving is the good way to do it i mean when you but for alex it's it's an existential threat yes 100 recognizing that his worldview implies this yeah uh is is really dangerous this is the logical conclusion of what you say the end this is not

some like infiltration this is not some like oops we were meaning to do this and then this happened this is what the end goal was and you did it stupid and you lost the end unlike jeffrey osborne who won i i was doing so hard i was trying so hard i was just zeroed in on not talking about in terms of awards steward roads i don't know what the case is here he when he was at yale he apparently won an award for a paper on enemy combatant status that he wrote i was able to find the paper and it's long um and i didn't read all of it but i read some of it and was like ah this seems like a college paper and uh it would have been i think 2004 uh and conveniently yale their records online go back to 2005 oh so weird yeah so weird i was able to find the

recipients list of these winners until 2005 that's not to say that steward didn't win it i just have no idea sure sure sure yeah he could have it reminds me of mumford the movie mumford oh yeah yeah the guy fakes being a a psycho a psychologist yeah conveniently everybody who could verify his time in college dies so weird yeah so weird yeah we've we've met some people like that in the past so uh steward um is kind of like hey uh we we're in the situation that our founding fathers were in and so what we need to do is set up autonomous cities i think okay make sure you do what the founders did they came together they were united the town and counting level um for mutual defense and also for grassroots politics they separated themselves

from an illidan regime even before they declared independence you know they didn't listen to the real governors they they they smuggled and went around all the edicts of the king and they wore homespun clothing stopped buying textiles from england they they that's like moonshine all of this is pure americana i agree everybody they're trying to drive us underground let's jump in that briar patch let's just let's just stop supporting them in any way alex is currently in a luxury resort in utah he has an iphone in his pocket yeah this is this is ridiculous good god yeah i hate these people so much it's it's a bit of a mess but not as much of a mess as alex's narrative about january sixth yes this is a huge problem for him because as we've seen he's had to gradually expand

the narrative based on new people who get arrested yeah we're on our seventh or eighth iteration of this narrative so far and it's falling the fuck apart yeah and one of the reasons for that is the people that he's tried to blame the boogaloo boys stood up to him uh and he got embarrassed by two of them in two days yeah he can't throw the oath keepers under the bus he's too connected to them steward rode's is his good buddy yep they're they're tight he can't do it um the proud boys he also probably can't throw them under the bus not completely joe biggs was like the second in command he used to work at info rights and rekay tario yeah they were independent contractors he never met him he doesn't get into that kind of stuff that those people get into rekay tario had

been on the show before he spoke at alex's c pack event you can't prove any of this alex could be like i was in bed drunk by the way probably could i don't remember tario i don't remember anything from that night um it's too difficult for him and so now he has to kind of like do this we're all living in america america america america welcome back ladies and gentlemen steward rode's founder of the oath keepers is here with us and he just learned about this in the last 12 hours or so self-styled militia members in three states begin planning in november for recruits weapons ahead of capital breach us siege well they sure didn't bring the weapons and they sure didn't do all the things they supposedly were planning to do but it was the q phenomenon behind the scenes that oh

secretly trumps giving orders to storm dc and all this and then it would piggyback on us having peaceful demonstrations calling for a senate investigation that ted cruz was calling for and then you get to demonize the entire trump system with this you badly coordinated a few hundred people that wanted to storm the capital now you get a few pro boys you get a few boogaloo's you get a few oath keepers in the mix are they informants where they set up they break in okay four of them get killed cop has a heart attack dies two days later this is the new pearl harbor so the narrative now is just so intensely complicated and shifted so far over the course of the last couple weeks that it's it's to to imagine somebody continuing to go along with

this is just embarrassing yeah because alex at every stage has said he's proven all of these things yep and then everything shifts so now q the q movement is the real villains sure and there's a couple of people who i guess alex will probably i'm gonna guess soon he's gonna say sheep dipped he's gonna call these people sheep dipped yeah there's gonna be a couple sheep dipped people sure in each of these groups that were there as infiltrated provocateurs right and so all these groups are actually good just they had a couple people who are bad apples and those groups who are actually globalist plants this is too complicated i guess i guess he has too many q followers that listen to his show but if it were me i would just go hard on q being controlled by

the globalists the whole way no he turned the cues turn all the q people into globalists no that's kind of where he's at right but i mean like straight up clean break everything is their fault oh because they're the globalists sure you know well i think that's interesting um i i think i think it would be difficult to like argue that all the people who believe in q are aware of a globalist plot that they're a part of sure and so he's he's saying that the q is globalist intelligence and stuff like that right but the people who fell for it and were in on it or you know like the followers they're just good researchers who got taken down a wrong path i know but you can lump them in with all the people who use you know most rank and file democrats aren't aren't evil people

they've just been caught up in this whole thing you know you just rationalize the q alex says that everyone well that's on the left is a devil well sometimes he does and sometimes he does it depends on his mood exactly yeah i i i don't know i i i strain to uh keep any kind of through line well yeah through line or belief that alex even has a through line yeah i would agree with that i don't think he has a center on this narrative it's just someone's to blame and it's not us it's a fake group that's controlled by the globalist that's why that's why i'm saying you go with q and then you go up against a bugaloo boy and they're like you're stupid and you're like no no no this is all q shit man you are the stupid ones you are being controlled by the globalist who run q

i don't know i think alex realizes that the new generation is not going to put up with his bullshit no that doesn't seem like it so stort roads is not like alex in many ways he's scarier terrifying and he also is not somebody who throws people under the bus that's true he alex is willing to throw anybody under the bus right immediately when it's convenient bus yeah i imagine that uh military service will give you more lord loyalty to your comrades in arms than uh it's possible radio host yeah so one of the people uh that was arrested uh storm in the capital uh one of the three oath keepers stort roads knows for a fact is an oath keeper yeah and he won't deny that and he also spent some time on this show promoting her crowdfunding

yeah i love that i love it jessica walkins does have a go fund me set up or not a go fund me it's on rally pay but a fundraiser for legal defense we do encourage people to go and defend the actual oath keeper member who was involved in that so we always stand behind our people so there you go but again you didn't coordinate you weren't part of this no absolutely not i had nothing to do with it now i am going to try and help fund the defense of somebody who is there because they're my people yeah that is a kind of loyalty that is foreign to info wars completely so wait wait are you saying that she did a thing that you personally think was a bad idea but you're still gonna defend her but if you threw her under the bus then maybe you wouldn't have to deal with

yeah you could keep that money yeah it'd be your money don't you want that money so we are now in a situation that is exactly the same 100% the same identical to that well the colonies in the colonies we're basically in the colonies okay sturt what do you expect them to do with biden he's deteriorating extremely quick i mean he looks like an Alzheimer's patient now i mean they definitely cranked him up and he practiced that very short inaugural speech which is okay bags of blood other than that he's like what am i saying blue blood blue and he is like what the hell's going on here well he like like what i was saying he he is a chinese puppet it's you should look at this as the dc is now the green zone of an occupying army from communist

china using their puppet and that's why it's a direct parallel the founders faced they were dealing with domestic puppets the world governors who were doing the bidding of foreign power that was king and parliament that they had that the people had no control over and no representation in and we're in the same exact position exact same position exact same position explain to me how they're in the exact same position sturt just did man i disagree strongly sure me too so sturt is uh you know he's not an accelerationist except he is but pretty sure he said we're in the colonies and i'm pretty sure that what that required was a literal revolution yeah but before that they had people writing pamphlets and stuff oh uh so so the oath keepers

are very similar to thomas pain one might one worthy to be steward roads might say yes um stewards he's trying to have this like you know like hey it's not time for action or whatever yet but he does give a little bit of a contradictory message here and it's upsetting that shows her weakness because they can't even trust their own troops because they know that those troops come from us and so what they do is try to purge the troops and and kick out anybody who's a real american they really have a skeleton force of no strong military in the united states that is controlled by them then they have a powerful military they can't control when they when they try to give orders to violate our rights so watch for that we're going in territory heading towards a sweet spot

where we can't wait too much longer because then they'll have vetted and and kicked out all the patriots out of the military confederates they have not gotten there yet but watch for that process to happen and to get closer and closer to that point you have to do something that's where we're going that's right now there's let's talk about both of you stay there let's talk about the timeline of tyranny what the global security next what we've got to do i mean folks nobody's happy about this the country has cancer again they're trying to purge the military now we told you that was coming next of confederates here we've got to take the last three minutes of stewart put that on the front of this interview that was he before he let it out literally dc is now the

commons chinese brains up hold the ride back so you have stewart saying that there's a sweet spot that is you know like we have to do something before the military is done purging of course also the military has started purging well that puts a clock on it it does it sure does doesn't it this is the revolution qvc we're not into acceleration what we are saying is that it's going to happen shortly anybody we got about 45 50 minutes yeah that's not good yeah so the 28th wraps up and blackjack no you're so good you're so good at this 29th alex is like i said on the road yeah he's coming back travel day 30th oh i'm sorry alex and stewart roads are in studio and they're talking about this dumb documentary talking about how they got us a seed and shit

yeah very stupid yeah now we get to the 31st sunday episode and alex is basically describing how we're in revelation okay but it is said in the book of revelation that john the revelator in the isle of pat most marveled at the beast looking forward through an interdimensional worm hole that god opened up that part wasn't in the body christ and the world government what would be happening in the future he marveled at the beast world government cannot buy nor sell that a market before out of the hand you must turn over your children to the state you must destroy your very genetics you must kill the earth you must worship satan or you will not be allowed to live you'll not be allowed to have a job well whether you believe john was the greatest science fiction writer ever

2000 years ago he was not or whether you believe he was inspired by god he was not it's being manifested it is not it's being set up nope right now so the old chinese proverb says may you live in interesting times and we certainly are interesting times and then you have the battle of armageddon with the dragon all the rest of it now unfolding so get your popcorn out because you got front row seats to the big finale is it 10 years 100 years out or 60 minutes away all i know is it satanic and it's moving quick right so it might be in an hour oh the dragon might be here in an hour okay okay so i'm not fair i've got a pitch for you actually i've got a pitch for the devil or the great beast if you will hold on hold on let me let me get into character yeah blah okay there

you go that was scary yeah he surprised me just popped out of that portal okay so you've got the book of revelations yeah you've got this whole like head or the hand on the mark of the beast right but you're the devil and you realize everyone has a phone so do you get around the entire book of revelations if you just never attach it to somebody's hand or forehead do you just win does he win if everybody has the mark of the beast in their pocket well i mean it would certainly seem to indicate that the prophecy was a little bit screwy yeah yeah what about like i don't know like there's so much that aren't in any of those prophecies like like custard that's true well i don't know maybe custard existed back what am i trying to think i have no idea i don't

know where custard came from at all french fries they did not have those pizza that's true they didn't even have france back then i don't know what i'm trying to uh get at they were called gall fries back then there were there there were some some things that were missing uh from the in terms of it being a wormhole yeah vision of the present uh but yeah i don't know i i just think it's unfair for alex to be like it could be a hundred years could be an hour get your popcorn out you might die before it starts but you'll have the popcorn ready the devil's here and it's happening and it's happening fast or in a hundred years and who knows so uh the big news is a vaccine related yes on sunday and it's that australia has ended its covet development program so now here's

the big announcement a month ago australia suspends nationwide their entire vaccine program because it makes people deathly ill killed a bunch of people and they came up positive for hiv what we put that on screen please for tv viewers now now ladies and gentlemen last tuesday seems like a hundred years ago merc the largest pharma company in the world says we are ending our vaccine program it does not work we believe you cannot make a vaccine that works to cure the common cold and that's what this is except it's camera with even more mutations so it's even more impossible alex is uh sort of editorializing on what these companies are saying he's adding a little bit there a little bit yeah i

would say i would say that wasn't a direct quotation yeah the other problem too is that these are all different vaccines there is that like the one in australia was developed by the university of queensland and a biotech firm called csl uh and the ones that merc are different the ones they were working on and those are also different than the phyzer and the madarna ones nah they're all fake it's all fake alex is treating them like they're all the same they're all the same thing it's a it's a syringe with some liquid in it dan it's the same shit it's very weird yeah it's a weird perspective it's kind of like he doesn't understand anything about them yeah so i actually lied to you that's not the news that's the preface for the news the big news has to do with

immanuel macron okay french president all right come out and said some things who came out yesterday macron a top globalist but he understands that this is such a crime he'll be torn limb from limb the riots are gigantic all their scientists are coming out saying this is insane oh the top ones as opposed to the other cover of hiv is a french scientist and saying it's man made in the lab it's a power grab i told you months ago i talked to the head of a major biotech company that has real gene therapy that cures things like colon cancer but they also sell pillows and he said you're absolutely right it's a giant total takeover the vaccine will destroy and sterilize women and it will kill your immune system or turn it way off the charts and give you cancer

but they need to want to come on the show oh too bad yeah for somebody with knowledge that could potentially save the world of billions of people it seems like he would want to get that information out there yeah i guess he's now responsible for i'm pretty sure he's killed us all so french president macron said that the oxford astrazeneca vaccine appears to be quote quasi ineffective in people older than seven uh 65 excuse me uh which is a claim that scientists have strongly rebutted what about the top ones though i don't know who that what that means okay macron did not come out against the vaccine or vaccination nor is he trying to save himself from being torn limb from limb also this is not the same vaccine as the ones put up by fizer and maderna which are the

ones that are currently available in the united states the claims that alex is making are absurd and it's super convenient that this big time specialist with magical medical technology won't come on the show but honestly this is just dumb one of the things that's the most dumb about this drum roll please jordan okay good enough the astrazeneca vaccine that macron is talking about isn't an mRNA vaccine well but alex doesn't know that if you're a member of the informer's audience you would think that all these vaccines that are getting developed are all the same thing as if a ton of companies were just racing to finish the same recipe but that's not the case these are different approaches being taken to the varying levels of success and setbacks alex doesn't

understand the basics of the topics he's covering and he doesn't care to because his work is not meant to reflect reality it's meant to push an agenda yeah and this is just really sad because all his his ideas are about mRNA vaccines being different than vaccines and that's why this is particularly evil and macron knows that and that's why he's getting rid of this oxford astrazeneca vaccine that it turns out isn't an mRNA vaccine but alex doesn't know that macron claims that the vaccine that they were going to use it's an mRNA vaccine astrazeneca is almost ineffective in over 65 alex doesn't know shit he doesn't know anything he's talking out of his ass and so this is how arguments get made so australia merc france does not work does not work does not work

does not work that's it that's that's the level of shit he's bringing to the table that's compelling yeah that is compelling i've i i remember going to uh my first year uh i was uh i i didn't originally start out in literature i originally started out in audio production and uh i was there and i was looking at the board going through all this stuff and i remember my teacher screaming at me it works it works yeah it works yeah i think that part of the game that's being played here is like the audience is obviously humans and they think that if someone is yelling this repeatedly so over and over again so definitively he believes it he can't possibly be making this up how could you be this confident and make something up at the same time people can't do that

it's not possible dan oh it's simply inconceivable and unfortunately here we are yeah so alex has some staggering statistics about this uh vaccine that i would beg him to demonstrate guess who the vaccine's killing not just the famous baseball player hey heron the vaccine killed it local news every day of 20 year olds 50 year olds 60 year olds 30 year olds take it and die before they even leave the clinic they collapse and then have a convulsion and bye bye an hour later bye bye blue bird but it gets even more insane i mean this is absolutely the biggest criminal power grab ever they are reporting in hospitals and in nursing homes that up to five percent of the patients are dying within a week when they take the mRNA shot holy shit five percent fatality rate alex you

need to demonstrate this this is outrageous cloud this is an arrestable offense that's that's that is a legit like there should be a legal i mean that's insane you could i mean you you'd need to somehow demonstrate that like him saying that people believed it and it led to harm but i don't think that that like i don't know how you'd prove it but i believe it yeah like i believe that that causes harm absolutely without question five percent mortality rate without question that's outrageous that's fucked up so fucked up that would be made up number that would be the number one story in history culmination of all of humanity's knowledge about infectious disease results in five percent of people dying immediately yeah i i i don't think that you get to make claims like that

willy nilly um and he is yeah if you can't yell fire in a crowded theater you can't tell you tell everybody that they're gonna die yeah yeah so the vaccines are a bio weapon apparently and i would like to stress this important point that i have brought up that i don't think that alex knows or cares that these vaccines are all different vaccines and some are not mRNA vaccines like he thinks they're closing in to shut everybody down right now we have to expose their behind this we have to expose the criminal takeover plan and we have to get world leaders starting with governors and starting with senators to come out and point this out and it's game over well what do you think merc knows what do you think macron knows what do you think the australians know suspending their

vaccine programs because it quote does not work and hurts people quote because it does work macron it does work merc it does work australia it's a freaking bio weapon the mRNA vaccines are gene therapy and they train your body to attack a protein that's in the placenta all four of the damn things are the same thing well one of them at least that you were bringing up isn't an mRNA vaccine well there's that problem and that whole thing about attacking the placenta is nonsense but there is that i just i don't know this is desperate yep yep anyway uh we don't have time for us to all wait the inevitable thing that's gonna happen as has always happened is that alex says something it sounds silly and then 20 years later what do you know alex is right

always comes true all the way we're living in exactly what alex predicted we would be in 1991 if there's one thing i've learned from doing this podcast it's don't ever doubt alex his shit stands up to scrutiny true um he's he's right almost all the time even when it contradicts other things he's almost always right about yeah yeah uh be very facetious yeah never believe alex he's very dumb and mostly is just talking shit uh half the time he doesn't even remember the shit he says doesn't care uh but we don't have time to wait for him to be proven right we need to act on the things that he's saying now and just trust that in 20 years we'll look back and be like thank god we listen to alex i just don't trust people who make me want who say i

should do that no very very dangerous types yeah we don't have time for people to say 20 years later alex shones was right again or a year later we got to get that it's not about who's right the enemy has written no it is and laid out their plans of course i know their plans it's so easy to beat them it's a complete criminal takeover they said in operation lockstep 11 years ago rockefeller foundation which is the bill of millen gates foundation go read it it's online we do they bring in a planetary police state by disease x something like a weaponized cold virus and that there'd be no way to ever defeat it we could teach people to be tracked controlled and locked down and that new variants would show up all the time so that the lockdown would never

end it's just making that shit up yep um so yeah i don't know it's 20s x actually has a adamantium clause as well true yeah in 20 years we'll look back and be like wow i can't believe uh that this was okay yeah this guy got away with this shit that's my prediction yeah uh so if you want to look at like what he's saying now and sort of think about like okay you you think that you're going to be proven right about everything sure here's the kind of shit he's saying this is an exact plan they teach in elementary school in germany we've played the actual training videos that when you're seven years old you should be prepared to marry a muslim by 14 you should be dating a muslim by 10 and that muslims will be the future of europe the christianity is bad i can show you those

newscasts if you like i i would like to see those don't think you i would like to see those don't think you can show them that would be a very funny video to share on the internet where the germans are teaching elementary school kids hey you're behind if you're not dating a muslim by fourth grade hey 11 year old what are you doing single you old maid you old maid you'll never get married at this rate you're in sixth grade you should just get some cats yeah and i see that there's somebody who has a cat and i love my cat and there's nothing wrong with having cats yeah yeah this is the kind of shit that alex says uh horribly bigoted nonsense yeah anyway uh the globalists as we know yes ten years behind yes always it might just be a few years behind now

what about plan b plan b alex forgotten about never said that stuff oh okay didn't happen okay um they're they're behind it's listen to this i have a lot of thoughts on the other side of this all right and and here's the deal they were supposed to have the whole internet shut down with independent media like us before they did this they weren't planning to launch this for a couple years that they launched this early because they're behind schedules they thought they'd catch up by launching early what some future plans what but all these different globalists know that everyone hates them now i mean bill gates is the most hated man on earth then it's claus swab then it's macron then it's uh the the british prime minister that turned out to be a total trader boris johnson

woof so he's talking about like the releasing of covet yeah release the covet he actually even says that release the god but the the idea that he's putting forth is that the globalists were a few years behind right and so they had to like pick up some time super evil worldwide organization that has orchestrated everything right still a few years behind all right and this is a plan that goes back to the devil yes and the beginning of history yes thousands of years back i do appreciate that the devil cannot keep a timetable right just behind a little just behind yeah he's the devil what is he going to work hard i mean in the song he's behind that's why he got kicked out of heaven that's why we're in georgia yeah they have a real slow pace down there he's way behind

yeah looking to make a deal so this plan that is millennia old and has to do with trump staying in office or something sure they're behind on it yeah they're behind on this evil plan and so they decide to release covet a couple years early sure couple years early because they gotta make up that time what's the point of having a plan what's the point of a few years i i do honestly if you have a millennia old plan and you're only a few years off six thousand years later or whatever that's really efficient honestly no one's gonna remember the that's really efficient yeah a few years in this scale of time is meaningless yeah you get you're at a work project it's supposed to last a year and you're three months behind people are furious at you right yeah so they release covet a couple

years early to pick up yeah pick up some time sure seems dumb sure seems stupid hey guys we're not ready yet for this plan that's going to end the world i figure we just go for it yeah why not yeah we got a 50 50 shot so now the problem is that alex is still on air they meant to have the internet cracked down by the time that they released this thing right so that so why didn't they yeah i didn't get a reason for why they did my problem why are they behind why didn't they shut down that can they not so the goal and the motivation is to make up some lost time right but the plan that they're engaging in requires that the internet be shut down to be pulled off successfully correct so why would they do this thing to catch up on time that they don't have

one of the essential pieces in place for right so dumb okay so here's our plan it can only be stopped if we allow independent media to reveal our plans and stop everything right that's that by the way i'm glad we're having this meeting yeah that is a crucial first step yeah in terms of us being able to pull off this in a fair way i would argue it's the only step we can take if we wanted to go early i'm glad we're all it would only be that one i'm glad we're all on the same page yeah so release the covid alex will destroy our plans yeah certainly and we will not only not make up time we will lose time we will be set back we'll lose forever we'll be set back to uh devil times yeah yeah our plan we'll have to go we're gonna have to do a page one rewrite on this

evil plan john of pat nos is about to marvel at our great beast and then he's just gonna go back in and the seals are gonna close again because we forgot to shut down the internet fuck dammit you know what this is on us yeah we can't claim ignorance on this one we knew that alex was gonna fuck us up we do like that there are exit interviews for the higher echelons just like sorry guys this one's on me yeah this one's my bad i'll take credit for it so anyway this is just catalog this in the alex's plans of the globalists making no sense yeah yeah they're real bad at what they do they're real bad yeah it's almost like he's making it all up so um one of the things that got everyone really excited over the weekend was there was a piece in the wall

street journal about alex being involved in the funding of the uh stop the steel january sixth yeah yeah yes and i read that article and i don't think uh that alex comes off looking that terrible i mean it's just you know organizing and fundraising and stuff i think ali alexander obviously looks like way more of a creep that's kind of because he is yeah he's a real dangerous lunatic uh but somebody should give him a radio show and then maybe the profit incentive will keep him from being too much of an asshole possibly yeah um alex responds to this piece on the wall street journal and i think he responds exactly how i did and that is i said all of that stuff on air yeah so there's hundreds of articles tv shows all breathlessly

all breathlessly saying oh january sixth rally funded by top trump donor helped by alex jones organizers say and it's word for word but i said day one trump wanted to rally the six nobody but stepped up with the money i stepped up put 80 something thousand dollars down to try to secure the venues because you got a park service won't even let you authorize the permit unless you show you're gonna have security and border parties and and all the stuff and then a well-known donor heard i was doing it contacted i just handed him over to big republican fundraisers and and to them and they try to turn that into a big conspiracy that i was planning to try to do all of this so that we could storm the capital from my perspective i think alex is

kind of right yeah but i think that this reveals a couple of really funny things um first of all like just the the idea that he's like why are they i i said this yeah and he did yeah he's constantly said 100 a lot of the stuff that's in that wall street journal article and the sort of revelations of it are things that you would know if you listen to info wars yeah now what the thing that i think is really funny is like let's say january eighth alex has been talking about this and that he had paid for part of this rally there's that the wall street journal would never report on that because it's just alex saying yeah that's fair that is fair alex is an unreliable i can't believe anything this guy says yeah our source is alex jones and it's about alex jones

and i don't believe a word of it of course so there's a story in the wall street journal now because someone else said it i i don't know i think that would almost be something that alex should be called as a witness at trump's impeachment trial he thinks he's going to be i mean he did just say that trump told him you know i didn't have a hard time he's putting himself in the center of that impeachment trial too because of this wall street journal piece and but he's also saying like they'll never call me as a witness because i tried to stop the storming oh i'll call him as a witness i'll call you any day of the week buddy i want to get you in that stand oh it'd be fun only way to make the impeachment trial more ludicrous would be to invite alex jones alex

can i remind you you're under oath i don't even know what that means yeah so i i think it's really funny that the like a lot of the underlying information of this article is stuff that was public prior right but also maybe bullshit not proven it's not proven yeah it's not proven and so the second thing that i think is really funny is um that uh the the article says quote mr jones personally pledged more than fifty thousand dollars in seed money for a plan january 6th event in exchange for a guaranteed top speaking slot of his choice according to a funding document outlining a deal between the company his company and an early organizer for the event yeah so alex was doing pay to play of course he was he was putting down money in order

to get a speaking slot yep that's wild that that's kind of embarrassing that's sad in the article it is it it seems like that's him paying for access yeah yeah there's clout and there's money and you don't have clout and there was no way that alex was going to get a speaking slot it trumps actual of no good god no so i mean i figured he did speak the night before that might have been what he paid for mm-hmm wow yeah kind of a bummer but uh i do think that those two things in the well street journal article are pretty funny the unreliability of alex to even speak about his own life and the fact that he has to pay to get a speaking slot it is weird how you can both fall so far and yet at the same time inspire a literal overthrowing of a country it is that's

that's an interesting up and down kind of scenario there it is interesting yeah so uh we end this episode now jordan with evidence of why alex should never have to pay to speak somewhere okay as long as he's forced to speak over a certain song in their lives because they're ashamed of their power they don't want to force their way to the front they're humble they love their family they love their friends they love their community and so they defer to others you can't do that you belong in charge you belong in charge of your life your family your destiny and if you don't take control this evil corrupt system that's laughing at us will i call on men to start acting like men i call on men to follow the basic code

god wrote on your soul and to stop following with fallen men at put out because they're not following god they are falling the fallen one all right you know i didn't just have all these articles and all these video clips yes you did yes you absolutely did yes that's why that's why you would say that of course that was not the best work he's done over that song but pretty okay there were moments of the flickering passion i would listen to a cover album of him sing talking what he thinks the lyrics to songs are i don't want him to do that although i do think that'd be interesting as a side project i want an album of just that song 12 tracks yeah just that song but different days alex just alex's greatest hits free-styling yes whatever is on his mind yeah

this is like a great thesis at the beginning of this i know about powerful men go from there go for it see what yeah yeah yeah just write it you love that goddamn saxophone everybody loves that god that i'm talking about alex yeah he loves that saxophone oh he does it does something to him it does it to me yeah no we were both dancing we did i didn't hear much of what he said i was too busy singing along that is a sultry ass song it is great it's a track it's a banger of a track i mean it's no zam fear the lonely shepherd dad but uh yeah it's it it clearly puts alex into some kind of a zone where it's like it's time to blow hard yeah yeah yeah it's time to be no no narratives right now i'm just going with straight inspirational fucking clear eyes full hearts belong

to the city i can see the horizon yeah 100 percent absolutely alex talks a bunch about like being able to kick himself into a psychic state and i don't believe that but that song kicks him into something something yeah yeah so we come to the end of this exploration jordan and i am left with sort of a bad taste in my mouth yeah for alex and his january sixth narratives um i think it'll be interesting to see as we get closer to the impeachment how alex keeps probably trying to egg trump into turning it into some kind of a circus yeah and what ends up happening with that will be fascinating to watch alex deal with but i i i i do worry about his malleability the the fact that he can have these people the boogaloo's that he decided were a fbi cutout group

yep and he said he'd proved all this and then have two of them on to manipulate him and embarrass him in different ways so easy it's just it's it's it's a mess yeah yeah i imagine that this is i think what scares me most about this is how easily they are hand waving away what even alex was like this is going to fuck everything up you know like alex's is i gotta back away from this this is all this i know this is bad for me i know that this january sixth takeover of the fucking country is bad for me yeah and it takes two weeks for people to convince me that hey you guys are great mm-hmm yeah that's not good well no because he's trying to have it both ways yeah he's trying to retain that this was bad but also like all of the actors who were actually

involved in it aren't bad there were just a few people in their organizations who were secret globalists right who were trying to make them look bad it's just it's it's too complicated no he's still trying to run interference for people who are going to do what he wants them to do yeah in the same way that steward roads is gonna still fundraise for his oath keeper folks who stormed the capital alex is making it very clear that if you kiss the ring sort of or if you'll play ball a little bit um i will pretend that all the members of your group who do bad things are not really part of your group yeah yeah exactly and uh that's stupid that's fucked up yep yep but expected 100 percent anyway uh sorry the episode's late we'll be back uh with another episode at the end of the

week indeed until then jordan we have a website we do have a website it's knowledgefight.com yep we're also on twitter we are also on twitter it's at knowledgefight and i go to bed jordan yeah we'll be on facebook in the future on facebook someday yeah uh but in itunes and it's and if you could please find a local charity or bail fund in your area yeah we'll be back but until then i'm neo i'm leo i'm dzx clark i'm darryl ronda some the juiciest ice cube andy and chanzis you're on the year thanks for holding so alex i'm a first time caller i'm a huge fan i love your work i love you