Knowledge Fight - #545: March 30-31, 2021

Episode Date: April 2, 2021

Today, Dan and Jordan check in on the present day on the Alex Jones Show. In this installment, Alex laments how women are traitors, and spends a bizarre amount of time defending Matt Gaetz against the recent allegations that have been raised against him.

I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys knowledge fight. Dan and George, knowledge fight. I need money. Andy and Kansas. Andy and Kansas. Andy and Kansas. It's time to pray. Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. Hey, everybody. Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan. I'm George. We're a couple dudes. I can sit around, drink novelty beverages and talk just a little bit about Alex Jones. Oh, indeed. We are Dan. Jordan. Jordan. Quick question for you. What's up? What's your bright spot today? My bright spot today. It might be the same as yours. And that is, uh, oh, I bet it's not. Okay. Well, in that case, uh, thank you to the God awful movies podcast. Our episode came out with, uh, with

them on Tuesday. It was a lot of fun to see the response that people had. I think we have a lot of crossover, uh, between audiences and it was so fun, uh, hanging out and talking about a dumb Chuck Norris. It was a blast. I was so terrified when we recorded that, that none of it would make sense. Like the plot doesn't make sense. If you watch the movie and then hearing the five of us trying together. Yeah. No, no, no. I've never done a podcast where you just like break down the plot of a movie before. Yeah. And so for me, I was very self conscious of like, there's no connective tissue here. This does not make sense. Oh, but everybody seemed to enjoy it. So thanks to them. And if you haven't checked that out, you should give it a whirl. Yes. Very much so. I gave it a

little bit of a listen and, uh, they, they told us many times, you know, like, Hey, I'm just trying to move along. Don't worry about it. If you keep talking and we're both like, man, if you don't literally tell us to shut up, we're gonna keep talking. We can't stop. I was literally listening to that. Like, uh, I missed at least a half hour of stuff that I wanted to put in there. Yeah. Yeah. I know that's definitely true. There were more thoughts. We could have done so much longer. Could have been like one of our Rogan episodes at a certain point at a certain point. I was half expecting them to leave and just be like, Hey, you guys finish it out. We'll be back. Yeah. Yeah. I'm sorry about you. What's your bright spot? My bright spot, Dan. I will guarantee it's not the

same as yours because it is opening day baseball, baby. Okay. Yeah. That is different. Yeah. That's different. I was going to say you could guarantee because you already know what mine is. Yeah. Well, obviously. Stupid bet for me to take. Fair enough. Well, congratulations on the sticks. Yeah. Opening day baseball. Don't congratulate me. It's not like I'm, it's not like I'm getting my cup of coffee this year. You enjoy, you enjoy watching these guys get out there and play, play the game. America's past. I do. I do. You know, I think the Ricketts family should have been burnt at the stake for many reasons, but what they're doing to the Cubs is now at least number three on the list. Who's looking good this year? What teams are in? Who are you keeping your eye on other

than the Cubs? Other than the Cubs? Well, I mean, I'm looking at Los Angeles, the LA Angels because Shohei Otani is my favorite baseball player by far. He can throw a 98 mile an hour fastball. He can hit 500 foot dingers, Dan. It doesn't get better than that. How are the Expos looking? The Expos are looking dead. Non existent. The Expos are looking like a blockbuster franchise right now. How do you feel? Oh, I got to call my book. I made some bad bets. Well, you'll you'll get there in 1999. Who's that? Is Johnny Damon still around? He looking good this year? What else you got? I don't know. I want I want more names from you. Albert Pujols. Actually,

Albert Pujols is on the Angels and he is still around. All my buddies used to love Pujols because he was on the of course he's on the St Louis Cardinals. Yeah, and he had that weird stance. You'd stand there real weird. Still does. Yeah, still does. It's one of the best hitters in the history of the game. Yeah, he's very good. There is that he seems like a good guy too from everything I can tell, right? Yeah, that's what I've heard. I don't know. He seems like a nice dude. Seems like I don't know. Nobody's ever been like gone out of their way to be like, Hey, Jordan, have you heard how much of an asshole Albert Pujols is? So how's Roberto Clemente looking this year? Not as good as you might hope. I've got bad news for you. So Jordan, today we got an

interesting episode to go over as I promised. We're back in the present day. So today we're going to be talking about March 30th and 31st, 2021. Blackjack. What do you think about them apples? Oh, no, no, no, that bit's not going to that's not going to fly. But I do love that drop. I have to use it for some time. It is good. I think you can tell me you can use it whenever you have something shitty to say to me instead. How do you like them apples? Exactly. All right, blackjack. Anyway, it's interesting couple of days infuriating in many ways, kind of bizarre in another way. There's something that I think is really interesting that I think bears talking about, but it also Alex's position on it almost doesn't matter. So this is my way of as his tradition

underselling what we're about to talk about. Right. Right. Right. In advance. This doesn't matter. Nope. But before we get down to business, let's do something that does matter, which is name some new walks. Oh, that's a good idea. So first I'm Dan and it's 2021 blackjack. Thank you So much. You are now a policyWalk. I'm a policyWalk. That's right. You have much next. Knowledge friend and God awful movies is my kink. Give me more pleas sirs. Thank you so much. You are now a policyWalk. I'm a policyWalk. Thank you very much. Thank you. Next, William KW the third. Thank you so much. You're now a policyWalk I'm a policyWalk. Thank you, BillyK capitalism. Next shirt leadership thank you so much. You're now a policyWalk.

You're now a policyWalk. I'm a policyWalk. Thank you very much. Spider leadership. Thank you. About time they started pulling their weight around here. I'm looking at you mercantile dogs and archaeologist cats. Yeah. Next, I sold Dan weed, not guns. Thank you so much. You are now a policyWalk. I'm a policyWalk. Thank you very much. Did I say that someone sold me guns? No, was this like an old friend of yours in high school who were like you had the opportunity and in the left hand, I have a gun. I don't and in the right hand, I have some weed. You can only choose one. I don't recall that. I know that I have bought weed from a lot of people over the course of my life and I do know that there was one person that I knew. I don't think it's this

person because I have no, I don't know, but there was one person that I knew who shall go nameless who did sell me weed for a while and then later I found out that he was also selling guns. Oh, but I didn't know that at the time. Well, I think we know it now. I don't think that that's this person. I would be bizarre if it was. That would be bizarre. But anyway, thank you so much for our policyWalk. Are there any people who have been with the same weed dealer for like 30 years? You know, like some people who are like, I just only go to this one store for like, I'm a Kohl's person. Do you have like a, I'm a Kohl person. I wouldn't be too surprised. I mean, you know, I think, I think you have a bond that's formed. I think Kohl's gets arrested less.

And that disrupts relationships sometimes. Their loyalty program is a little bit better. Yeah. So finally, like I said, thank you to somebody who is now a technocrat. Thank you so much, Nev C. You are now a technocrat. I'm a policy wonk. Crikey, mate. That's fantastic. Have yourself a brew. How's your 401k doing, bro? We got to go full tilt bugging on this Watson. All right. Let's just get down to business. We ain't making that money off that heroin. Why are you pimp so good? My neck is freakishly large. I declare info war on you. Thanks so much, Nev. Yes. Thank you very much. So much. Yeah. So Jordan, today we have a fun out of context drop. Alex is violent towards animals. Sure. And this is right in that line. Sometimes you got to hit a mule upside the head

with a two by four. Whoa. That doesn't sound true. Sometimes you have to. Sometimes you are left with no choice. I would like more context on the situation where I have no choice but to hit it with a two by five. Well, if this wasn't an out of context drop, I could give you the entire context. Alex spends about 10 fucking minutes on the show talking about how sometimes that there's like a cow that's being eaten by fire ants and it's pregnant and you got to get it to safety. You got to get it with stuff in order to get it to move. I was going to go with pure zombie situation, but I will accept that if there is a cow being eaten by fire away from the fire ants, you got to hit it with a board. Sure. And the liberals would tell you, no, don't hit it with

a board. I'm still going to go with maybe try getting rid of the fire ants first. Maybe try a hose. He spends probably two segments talking about that. That seems right. It's outrageous. Seems right. Does he have enough time to get to the big news? No. Oh, okay. So here we start on the 30th and I'm going to give you a spoiler in advance. I turned this episode off. It got very boring. But here's how it starts. Wow. It is official mainstream news that the COVID lockdowns are designed to make us live in our houses and be prisoners to, quote, save the earth from carbon. You know, Debo said it years ago, they had a plan a few months ago. They said how great the lockdowns are, have them permanently to save the earth,

have robots deliver us all our food, making us obsolete, depopulating. Sure. But now the Wall Street Journal, the New York Times, the Associated Press without me even looking today wait, what are saying what we need to be prisoners and never leave our homes again. I mean, they are just going for full Stockholm syndrome. I was like, oh, wow. How could this not have turned out to be a banger of an episode, Dan? I was like, wow, this is going to be something he's really going to need to substantiate. Without even looking, I saw these things that didn't happen. How amazing is that, Dan? I think that one of the things about our show that I enjoy that is that you hear something like that. And most people are like, no, it didn't. Yeah.

I'll dig into things. But today I just felt like no. No, it didn't. The media did not say, did not announce that they want you to be prisoners in your home. I'm fine. We've been over this territory so many times that this is just one. I'm going to be like, no, absolutely not. Go fuck yourself. Listen, I give you more than the benefit of the death. Yeah. And you have broken me, sir. I don't feel broken. I just don't care. I'm going to choose my battles. Sure. And this is one I'm just going to be like wise. Yeah. That's why. Tell me what you're talking about. And then maybe we'll get into it, but probably not because I know the only citation that he ends up giving in the first,

like 40 minutes of the show is a fucking editorial that doesn't say what he says it says. There's a problem. So I don't care. Okay. Anyway, this is where we get really misogynistic. Sure. You heard him bring up Stockholm syndrome. I thought it was the moment he started speaking is when we get really misogynistic. But here we go. They are just going for full Stockholm syndrome takeover because they know at least 30% of the public, mainly women, will go under Stockholm syndrome because it's so authoritarian. They can't believe it's actually happening. And they are going to submit to the tyranny. Nothing against women, but it's known in every psychological study and nothing wrong with Babylon that when an army would take over the

city, most the women within minutes would start fighting for the enemy as soon as it was clear that the enemy had taken over and they would, they would rat out their husbands, rat out their children, help execute them if they thought it was for the good of the community. Interesting. That's why when the countries conquered or places conquered, you don't kill the women. That's why who was the house slave in Rome in Africa? Who were the house slaves? Africans had as many slaves as anybody. You brought women in the house. You kept the men out in the fields and that's the system. Wow. That's something else, man. I don't even know where that begins. Yeah, it's, it's a lot of thoughts and a lot of them are dumb. Okay. Okay. All right. So

then okay, okay. Okay. So we have historical records of so many cities that were conquered. We have psychological studies from Rome. Yes, we've got so many psychological studies, double blind studies. Whenever, whenever invading armies will show up, women will immediately start fighting within minutes, start fighting for the women or traders. I'm confused as to whether or not he knows the severe number of underground boy. I don't know resistance movements that were started almost like a locomotive. Maybe they went underground. I think there's one big one that it's hard to to put back. So first thing to clear up Stockholm syndrome as Alex understands it isn't real. It's something that's depicted in dramatic movies a lot,

but in terms of real life instances of someone exhibiting the signs of Stockholm syndrome, it's exceedingly rare to find a real case. Yeah. What it really is, is that the cops are bad and reasonable people are like, Oh yeah, you guys are bad. And, and like, I mean, you can, you can find some similarities to the behavior within domestically violent situations. Sure. Some people will make those parallels. Yeah. But that's not what we're talking about. No, that's not what the depiction of Stockholm syndrome is. Yeah. Second, the image of history that Alex is presenting is also not real. In movies, perhaps invading groups don't kill women when they killed all the men in a particular town, but that's not how things have gone generally. No, they killed all the women. It wasn't hard.

Not always. And, but sometimes a lot of the time. And the exception generally is when these invading groups would take the women as property after conquering a particular group. And it wasn't because these women just decided to be a good idea to join the other team. Oh shit. Now it's time to be property. Guys, it's time. Let's get enslaved. Let's do it. Concubine me, baby. Also, it may be the case that most depictions of persons enslaved inside households in the media are often women, but that's also historically not something that was universal. For instance, William Wells Brown and Lewis Clark are both examples of enslaved persons in the American South who were men whose duties were in the house, both of whom wrote books about their experience that Alex could learn from,

if you'd like. Alex's understanding of history is based almost entirely on movies and vague feelings he's gotten about history from media. Literally nothing he's saying is based on reality at all, but it feels like it if you just kind of assume fiction and reality are the same. That's all that's going on here, man. And it is grim. His vision of what, like, that's, that's a, that's a painfully chauvinistic view of. Yeah, yeah, you know, and it's not like, you know, movies aren't entertaining and stuff, but I think the fact that most movies have been written by white men over the years has probably ruined a bit of our good historical interpretation. I think that might have something to do with his ridiculous beliefs. Could be, could be, could be, you know, but no,

Aaron Surgin's good. Look, never mind. Alex has this deep historical knowledge, and I shouldn't be poo-pooing him so much because like, I mean, he's got a stack of papers. I have a stack of just unbelievable COVID-19 news, but just look at this stack, ladies and gentlemen. Look at this. The dub tells with it. You're ready, old Lester. You can just search and do anything I'm saying to pull it up. Look at the crew does. Look at this AP. Dear normal, were you really that great in the first place by a Sophie Rosenbaum? This reads like the darkest satire ever written. So this is nonsense. And we'll get to this here in a second, but here is Alex sort of talking about the editorial a little bit. Look at this AP. Dear normal, were you really

that great in the first place by a Sophie Rosenbaum? This reads like the darkest satire ever written, but it's real. And I'm going to take the time out, even though this is four nightmare pages of evil, and I'm going to read the damn thing on air bottom of the hour. And it says we're going to lock you in your house and you're going to love it. And you're only going to leave when we say you can. And it's not about the COVID. It's about the earth. It doesn't say any of those things. That sounds right. This is an article that's an editorial presenting an opinion held by this writer. Alex is getting mad at an editorial and pretending that it somehow is the globalist admitting that they don't want anything to go back to normal,

and it's all about climate COVID. It's not even real. Furthermore, it was not addressed to Alex. No, it was addressed to normal. Yeah, he's very abnormal. So Alex has nothing to do with this. If you read this editorial, it's not dark satire and it's not advocating that we stay in lockdown forever. It's this writer expressing that as the world goes back to what we're looking at as normal, we run the risk of not living as ambitiously as we can. A better world is possible and the urge for things to go back to some idea of normal might get in the way of achieving things that, you know, are good. From the article, quote, without normal, the path forward is more open. The opportunity is perhaps broader. What if there's a whole lot of amazing that stands to be lost

if normal returns? What if instead of banking on normalcy, we focused on that one of a kind ability to adapt and evolve? Maybe that's the way forward instead of simply reconciling with what was and trying to recreate something that's already had its day. It's an interesting position that this author brings up. It's not a unique perspective in terms of things that I've read. But it's absolutely not what Alex is lying about, but it is a good headline for him to riff off of. But it's just nonsense. And if he's read it, this is embarrassing for him to be worked up about it. He is absolutely not read it. Not a chance. Did he read it on air? I don't know. Probably maybe after I turned it off. I told you, I turned off this episode.

That's fair. And part of the reason was that I turned off this episode was like that misogyny at the beginning was pretty wild. That's astonishing. Yeah. But because it's not a direct attack. You know, you're so, we're so used to misogyny being directed at women in the present, but to create a weird fictional like Adam and Eve story out of all women throughout history when being conquered. All psychological studies have shown that within minutes they start fighting for the anime. See, I feel like this is not true. This is just not true. What's psychedelic? How would you even take that cycle? Is there a psychologist that's in there on the ground like, Oh shit, somebody just got conquered. We got to get there fast. Otherwise they're going

to turn before we studied it properly. I don't know. But it was kind of interesting in a like, Oh, you're you seem weird today. And I kind of got interested in like, Oh, is this going to continue? And it didn't. And it just became this aggressively long, protracted, boring stretch of immigrant bashing sure in such a way that really, really is like unacceptable. Okay. Yeah. And I'm I'll play a little clip and then, uh, you know, we'll sort of discuss why I needed to turn this off. Yeah. And then we saw a daily call report saying, Oh, there are hundreds of illegals with their children and others and unaccompanied children at the airport in South Texas, loading onto planes with no ID, loading onto planes with bags of cash and envelopes of cash

controlled by the Democratic Party being sent all over the United States to disappear into God knows what, and countervention of federal and state law, which Biden hadn't signed an executive order that can be overturned by courts. They haven't changed the federal law. This is all lawlessness. So he goes on and just on and on, uh, beating up at saying like just horrendous things about anybody who may be an immigrant. And you know, the effect of this isn't something that is positive. It's not something that's even interesting. This is just an incitement. Yeah. Like when he's talking about these people who are alleged to be undocumented folks who are being given bags of money and then sent to disappear into the, that's only going to make the audience

suspicious of everybody that they see that they might deem to be possibly an immigrant who might have a bag of cash and just disappeared into the middle of America. It's irresponsible as hell. Yeah. If he said, Jew, we'd just be like, okay, cool. You're a Nazi. Now stop speaking forever. It's because that's what he's, he's doing that. He's a Nazi. It's, it's not something that can really be interestingly discussed outside of rebuke. Yeah. It's not something that I have much to bring to the table other than fuck this. This is unacceptable. We've talked a ton about like specific narratives and things that, that he deploys against, uh, you know, immigrant populations and what have you. But this, this was just like, it just should be

turned off. Yeah. It's not, it's not even like, I don't, I don't know how else to say it. We should have a, we should have a drop that's just a big like stamp sound and then, and then it says protocols of the elders of Zion. And then we just move on like, yep, boom. And so there was one more thing that I heard and this is, this is like, I was in that place and I think I still needed something else to kick me over the, like turn this off. Uh, and this is where I turned it off. And then the FBI announces two days ago, they're waving all background checks for the people at the facilities and the foster homes where they're sent. So they're coming in, no ID, not with their parents in many cases. As young as two years old, they're being put on buses and airplanes and flown

to be picked up by random people and never to be seen again. But then separately you'll hear national Amber alert, 12 year old girl grabbed out of her backyard. Massive manhunt shuts down two counties as they search the grid for the kidnapper. But then you've got massive deaths, massive numbers of dead women and children found by the thousands on the border. Look it up. And it's just, oh, that's not going to be a news item. That's not going to be a story. So here's the headline right here out of town hall, FBI waves background check requirements for those housing unaccompanied minors. So Alex is talking about people at emergency intake centers. The FBI waived partial part of the background check that needs to be done for people working at

those centers. He's lying about this story, but what he brings up is still an actual issue. And that's where also I feel really like I hate him because this is a real issue. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm not going to agree with him, but I'm also not going to disagree fully, but he is still lying. Right. Right. Right. So it's true that the FBI is waived fingerprint based background checks for people who are being employed to work at emergency intake sites run by the Department of Health and Human Services. That is not a good thing. And I don't support that, but it is not what Alex is suggesting. This doesn't apply to people who are taking people into foster care. It's just for people who work at those sites who are quote supervised by federal employees or others who have passed

fingerprint based background checks. Again, not what I would say is a great idea, but it's not what Alex is saying. Also, Alex is claiming that they've waived all background checks for these individuals, which is not true. They still have to pass public records background checks, but they're not using fingerprinting. The reason to do this is to expedite the process, which makes some sense. But again, I would probably prefer that they err on the side of caution. Sure. I was really curious about this story. So I dug around a little more and I found this story in the Associated Press quote us waived FBI checks on staff at growing teen migrant camp. That story was from November 2018 under Trump. Beyond the background checks waiver, Trump also reduced the access

to mental health professionals for people at the camp, which was a mess. Even worse, in December 2018, the AP reported on news from an emergency detention center in Florida called Homestead where quote, the staff isn't being screened for child abuse and neglect at the Miami based emergency detention center. Alex wasn't mad about any of these things because Trump's administration was doing it and there's no ability to score points off it. He doesn't care about the well being of immigrants. And when it's a Democrat president in charge, he just uses the mismanagement of immigration as a prop to attack his enemies. Yeah. When his hero, Trump is the one mistreating these people. Alex isn't okay with it. He supports it. Yeah. And I don't want to bring these cases

or these instances up of, of Trump and his administration doing this as a what about thing. Sure. I absolutely don't want to do that. And I'm not trying to score points on Alex. There's no point in, I mean, I'm discussing my frustration with like, this is a problem and it's still a problem. Right. It's, it's, it's not something that is okay now because Biden is in charge. We need better solutions to these things. It's still monstrous. Yes. And the FBI background check thing, the aspect of it, I understand the explanation that's being given. I'm not sure that explanation is acceptable. Right. I don't know, but I would be, I would have that exact same response in Trump's instance and now. Yeah. And it's just offensive to see Alex spend half an hour demonizing immigrants

in such a way that it stands to potentially put people in danger and then to use them and mismanagement of immigration intake centers. Yeah. Like this as a prop for him to use to attack Democrats. No, I absolutely don't care what face or what party affiliation you have. If I am anywhere near those people, I was screaming their faces. This is the best you fucking have. This is what you're going to do. Yeah. Fuck off. And so, you know, I just got kind of fed up and I turned it off. So now we'll jump to the 31st. Because I thought like there's probably more interesting stuff to talk about. We've heard him talk about this kind of thing a lot. Sure. It's very kind of worn out territory for Alex. Totally. So there is some news and thankfully Alex has got some big

bombshells on the 31st. Working on the weekend like usual down in the deep end like usual. Wow. We're in the center of the zeitgeist. I barely just slid into my chair here because we've got so many big breaking news stories that we're working on right now that are so exclusive and so important. Big bombshells. Okay. So exclusive. Big old bombshells. So exclusive. So I assume when he says so exclusive, I put this story at between one and six years old. No, it's current. Okay. I can tell you I've talked to the highest levels of the media food chain about the Congressman Matt Gates situation. I've also talked to his good personal longtime friend and confidant Roger Stone. I have other phone calls and ascertained

exactly what's going on with the whole Matt Gates extortion deep state takeover. Roger Stone joins us coming up in the second hour today and he's still getting all the details together right now. But it definitely Matt Gates is telling the truth. This is weird. Yeah. Roger Stone's coming on to talk about a sex trafficking incident. He's definitely never engaged in in his life before. So it broke this weekend that the Justice Department began investigating Representative Matt Gates about the possibility that he had engaged in a sexual relationship with a 17 year old girl and possibly had paid her to travel or paid to travel with her, which would possibly constitute sex trafficking. Yeah. Gates claims that this is part of an elaborate plan

to extort him. And as far as I'm concerned, I hate Matt Gates and I think he's a real piece of political shit. But I need to see more about this investigation before I can come to any conclusions on the matter. The claimed actions are too severe and I don't want to do a disservice to the alleged crime by using an accusation to score points against a politician I don't like. Totally. According to the New York Times, this investigation began under the Trump administration. So it's going to be hard to allege this is a plot from the left. It's deep state. It's said that this has to do with a Florida politician who had been an ally of Gates's named Joel Greenberg, who is the former tax collector of Seminole County. This guy is currently facing charges, quote, including sex

trafficking of a child and financially supporting people in exchange for sex, at least one of whom was an underage girl. We will see what happens with this as more information comes out. But even if he's telling the truth and this is all part of an extortion plot against him, Matt Gates is still a pile of garbage. Also, like if it is an elaborate plan, I really hope that whoever is doing this extortion against him is arrested. Yeah. I with the thing that I don't want is neither of these things to get prosecuted. I am fine with whatever crime is handled here. Crime is the problem. Something's up. Yeah. Yeah. And I don't need an extra layer of crime to hate the shit out of Matt Gates. Right. If he's guilty of a crime, then I hope he's prosecuted and taken

care of, but I'm going to hate him either way. And we'll see. Also, Roger might not be the best source of information for Alex on this one since he's been photographed at Mar-a-Lago with Gates and Joel Greenberg. What's a little sex trafficking between friends? And according to the Times, websites run by Rogers Associates had published articles favorable about Greenberg's candidacy for tax collector. Shocking. This is a mess. Shocking. It's a tangled web, but we'll see. Anyway, there's other news. We lost Rush Limbaugh not too long ago. Hooray! Oh, no. We had another tragedy before the right wing. Oh, no. I've got so much to cover. G. Gordon Liddy died. A great guy, great Patriot, great talk show host, great American. Really? One of the FBI was like him

today. We would be in this problem that we're in with these communists and globalists. We've got that. Yikes. Doesn't eulogize him much. Can't just mention G. Gordon Liddy is dead, wishes the FBI was more like him. Oh, big pass. Although I think maybe our problem is the FBI is a lot like him. Yep. Yeah. So Alex has one of his big narratives on this episode is that a lot of the prosecutions against people who broke into the Capitol and stormed everywhere and sure, have you? A lot of them are falling apart. Oh, that was years ago, though. The right wing has moved on from that. We're talking about culture war stuff, Dan. We don't need to worry about that because that happened years ago. Well, we got to turn around

and mop it up a little bit. Okay. And now the prosecutions are falling apart. And there's a political article that Alex can't seem to find that goes over this. I mean, we are witnessing incredibly historic times. You know, in fact, guys, there's an info wars article about the case falling apart and feds shocked that they're going to have to drop all the cases. But I actually want the political article that's linked to that. I forgot to tell you about that. So I'll give me that political article that they're going to have to not get jail times. These people on the left totally panicking because I can't find that now in my stack and I just had it. People aren't panicking. This political article does talk about how it might be a bad look for, you know,

Biden's administration to end up having to not prosecute or give plea deals to a lot of the people who weren't the insiders. They weren't the people who were, you know, actually planning violence. So I understand that. And I think that, you know, in terms of reality, that kind of makes sense. And as somebody who isn't in favor of over incarceration, I do understand that and I kind of don't think it would be in society's greater interest to lock up everybody who went into the capital in the same way that I think that, you know, drug offenders should be released for prison. I think I think that there should be less people in prison. Yeah. I mean, I ultimately, functionally, it's like when you're going after the fucking mafia, like cool, you arrested a bunch

of fucking low level meatheads who are going around looking for protection money. It doesn't matter. It doesn't do anything. We're not doing anything to the people who fucking orchestrated it and incited it. So I kind of don't give a shit about these people at all. Well, the people who, you know, might have just been along and went in. I can completely understand the idea of like getting probation or time served or something. Sure. Sure. If you've been held without bail. Yeah. I don't know. But I understand that. And I think that maybe it would be unsatisfying to some, like folks who are trying to maybe run for office on on retribution. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. But that doesn't mean that people who are like the people who planned the stuff like yeah keepers

and totally they're not going to get light sentences. No, you planned it. Yeah. That's the part that's the people who are coordinating and like Stuart Rhodes's friends. Yeah, they're still in deep shit. That's what I'm saying. It's I just don't care about because all too all too many of those people are really borderline just infected with this terrifying brain virus that is destroyed them through right wing propaganda since they were fucking six years old. Right. Yeah. And Alex is trying to pretend that this is everybody, even all the oath keepers and stuff who had like communications and plans and no, Alex's buddies are going down. He's trying to pretend that like this political article is about everybody. Sure. And it's not. It's mostly

about people who are just like, what are you going to do? They just walked in. Yes, it's trespassing. But what are you going to give them six months in prison for that? And I think that that's a sensible conversation to have sure in terms of like what what gives us the best outcome possible as a society. And well, I mean, as a society does giving somebody who, you know, passively stormed the capital six months do anything for the problem. Probably not. Nothing could make things worse. Yeah, it doesn't like to act as a deterrent. No. And now I wish that we would treat all offenders with the same kind of I think that's kind of the bigger issue. Yeah, that is the problem is not the treatment. It's the unequal treatment beyond all recognition

here here. Yeah. Yeah. So apparently one of Elon Musk's rockets blew up. But hey, man, don't still don't care about Elon Musk. Don't call it a little bit. You can't call him a loser because he's trying. He is a loser, though. And this is this is interesting. Alex seems to be taking comments about Elon Musk a little personally. Another SpaceX spaceship prototype explodes during high altitude flight test. And the media is calling him a loser. As usual, no, the losers are the people that point their fingers at people that are doers and said that we're the losers. No, you are the losers. So Alex is lumping himself in with Elon Musk and saying the people who criticize the doers like me and Elon Musk. Sure. They're

the losers. No, what I want to do is put myself in the same sentence as somebody whose wealth is based entirely upon apartheid. And that's what I want to do. People talk about how me and Elon Musk are losers just because we exploited a population to make up and told amounts of wealth. And then the moment it looked like it was going to go bad for us, we ran away to the United States face no punishment for our crimes whatsoever and then got even more wealthy based off of stock manipulation for no fucking reason. I mean, to be fair, like, like Alex used to hang out with Bob Chapman who made all his money on like apartheid. That's what I'm saying. You got to defend people who run apartheid scams lived in Rhodesia. Exactly. Yeah. Oh boy. Yeah. So we get to

defending Matt Gates now. And it's interesting because the only way that Alex can ever do these things is like revealing he himself committed a crime. No, just pointing to other people, but he's built up as villains. Totally. Okay, let me break this down for you. If congressman Matt Gates son of a big successful billionaire wasn't well spoken, wasn't pro constitution, didn't have courage, wasn't a fighter. I would not give a damn about him. He black old shoe. I'd throw it away. And if any evidence of him screwing kids came out, I would absolutely come out against him and say he should be put in prison. But he's not just Scarborough found with a dead girl in his office with the brains bashed out. Who then is a good globalist to get to show on MSNBC with

a daughter of a famous war criminals, a big presence. Yeah. So there's like, ah, yeah, he's not jokes. Scarborough. Let's lie about his his past. Yeah, it's it's it's weird because I don't know what that has to do with. Oh, it doesn't have anything to do with this. No, no, no. It seems like that's the strategy is just distract. Yeah. Red red sheet over here. The bull that is the audience's attention charge over there. Despite the fact that of his descriptions of people who would drink adrenochrome, the only difference so far in description between Gates and everybody else is just an R. Next to his name. Yeah, he's the son of a billionaire. He's in the government. He's but it's also like he's a weird Republic. Exactly. It's not just he's a Republican. He is

weird. Yeah. Yeah. He's an asshole. Yep. So Alex lies a little bit about the allegations. And it's one thing for Alex to take insults against Elon Musk personally. Sure. That's that's one thing. Right. Alex seems to be taking this a little personally. That sounds right too. Trying to claim there were women saying they were 25 years ago who are really 17 at a party that he was at is not enough for me to turn against Gates, especially when the Democratic Party is doing this. And especially I'll reveal for the first time here. I went to the FBI a few years ago, but somebody tried to extort me who I had had sex with. And I talked to the experts. I said, you got to go report it. I went and said, Hey, I'm being extorted. Here's the here's

the text messages that five agents in the room. I mean, let me tell you try to extort my ass. I know the FBI is corrupt. Point is I go right to them. So it's on record that you tried to set me up. You tried to let me tell you, they got people. They got the media will give people money to say anything. They paid people $20,000 to say I walked around the office and grabbed a goldfish out of a fish tank at the office and ate it. This is a reference to Josh Owens article from 2019 in the New York Times. In the article, Josh doesn't allege that Alex ate a goldfish. That's the fake version of the claim that Alex uses as a straw man to not talk about the actual complaint. From the article, quote, once a coworker stopped by the office with a pet fish, he was taking home

to his niece. It swam in circles in a small transparent bag. When Alex saw the bag balanced upright on a desk in the conference room, he emptied into a garbage can. I don't know if Josh's claim is accurate or not, but it's very clear that Alex is making this claim that Josh was paid $20,000 by the New York Times to say this about Alex. The reason Alex is using the specific of quote, eating a goldfish is so he's less likely to get in trouble if Josh were to demand Alex prove that the times paid him to say what he did. Alex could then pretend he was talking about a different claim made about him, but it's very clear that this narrative is the one that he's built in response to Josh's article. If I were Josh Owens, I would probably threaten to sue Alex

for this. Yeah, that'd be worthwhile. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know if Josh Owens is a public figure. I don't know what Alex has no ability to demonstrate that Josh got paid to lie about him or to say anything about him. This seems like slander, quite frankly. And I think it's clearly malicious and intent. Totally. Absolutely. This person said something I don't like. And so I will say that they were paid to say it. Alex saying, Hey, how are you sounds malicious and intent? There's no middle ground. So apparently Alex got extorted. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. He's, he's defending Matt Gates a little bit like he's about to say what's next. Are we going to investigate everybody who's did exactly what, but not that I didn't do it. It's, it's interesting

the way that Alex decides to do this defense to because his defense seems to be like, Hey man, Gates likes to party. That's what I was thinking it would be. But I've made some calls and what you're hearing about Gates is pure bull. He doesn't even know if he, from wild parties he was at over the years, if he doesn't know who this woman is. And I had the same damn thing. Is that a defense? There's 30 people at it. You don't even kiss anybody. And then you got somebody saying, you give me a hundred thousand dollars or I'm going to say what you did to me. And I'm like, Hey, FBI's on speed dial. Hey, I'm coming in right now. But I'm telling you, man, this is what happens when you're successful and you're famous. And it's crap. You try to extort

me. I'm going to try to get the FBI rest your ass because it's not true. Ladies and gentlemen, you're supposed to be talking about Matt Gates. Why do you keep talking about yourself? You keep talking about you an awful lot. An awful lot. Also, do not sell me on you being a tough guy ever again. I'm going to call the FBI. I've got them on speed dial. Also, I'm a revolutionary who's fighting against the American government. Well, I think it's an interesting approach to be like Matt Gates goes to wild parties and he doesn't remember who is going to remember who you fucks. Come on. You go to the party, you fuck. It's not a names thing then. It's really strange. I just, I think that on the one hand it's a strange defense of something that I don't know

if anybody can know what the reality is about the investigation at this point. At these parties, you go and then Matt Gates puts on his eyed wide shut mask and then you don't know who's there. It's weird, but I think the reason that I'm most interested in it is it just keeps coming back to Alex. Like he keeps bringing himself back up as like there's a proxy that he feels as almost as if there's some sort of lingering guilt somewhere. I don't know about that, but it's just weird. It's just weird. It is a little weird. Alex wants to give Gates some advice. There is so much more that we're going to be discussing when we get into Matt Gates. We're going to use this to make it about the Clintons and to make this about Bill Gates. And the minute

Matt Gates talks about Bill Gates and the minute he talks about F. Steam, they're going to drop this like a hot hand grenade. I don't know. I don't know if that's true. I do think later on Alex lays out like what he's saying. And it's like Gates needs to be like talk about Bill Gates, but you've got the wrong Gates. You get it. How fun. Who's the new Gates gate? Yeah. And so Alex also even lays out that he's like Bill Gates runs the media. He controls all this. Sure. If Matt Gates starts talking about Bill Gates, he'll call off the dogs. Oh boy. What? I am. I am really excited to see just how fast and how brutal the right wing machine will destroy Gates. The moment he threatens the grift. Like the whenever he was talking to Tucker on that interview and he's like, you know, you

know, Tucker, how you've done this to. It's like, oh man, you're going to be destroyed. If you think that you're going to get loyalty Gates, you are making the same mistake. A lot of you idiots make. Yeah. You're going to end up burning like the bridge with Tucker and you'll be left in hanging out with Roger and Alex. Yep. Oh yeah. Yeah. It's going to be brutal and it's going to be fast. Yeah. It's kind of convenient. I think I read a headline the other day that he would like before all this came out that he was planning on possibly retiring from Congress. Yeah. He's going to make a move. You know, nothing interesting is going to happen in between that article and when he moves to Newsmax. I'm sure of it. Oh, I am probably. Okay. So in this next clip, we get Alex bestowing

the mantle of the future of the GOP on somebody and you'd be hard pressed and surprised to find out that it is not Matt Gates after all of this surprising. No, we have a new leader. Okay. So here is Marjorie Taylor Greene, the future of the Republican party voted in 75% of the vote on vaccine passports talking about Hillary's religion and Biden's religion being the mark of the beast. I kind of do agree with Alex though that she is the future of the GOP. Yeah, she is absolutely going to be one of their elder statesmen screeching into the atmosphere upon her babble tower as the rest of the world burns around her. Alex takes this to be like a good thing. Whereas I would say it's a cautionary statement to say that she's the future of the

GOP. I would argue that's probably a correct assessment of the biggest problem any people have ever had. So we get to talking a little bit more about Ms. Greene and here's what Alex has to say. They have a perfect example of why they hate Marjorie Taylor Greene. She's done. She's a listener of this show. She's mean and so are others and they're educated about how the world works and they can see for themselves and they see the corporate communism, how they've created monopolies for themselves and now the big corporations want tyranny for all the rest of us and they're using classical forms of tyranny with technocracy to dominate us. Now the Republicans are told, oh be afraid of her, stay away from her because if they adopt what she's saying when she

won by 75 percentage points, the highest record in years for a Republican to be elected to Congress, the past record was like 69 percent. She topped that by six points. What was she saying? There's a new world order, a chacom takeover. Corporate communism. They're coming for your guns. They're destroying the border. They're the enemy. Let's do something. Let's stand up. That's what you do when you're under attack. I definitely think Alex could be right that Marjorie Taylor Greene listened to Info Wars. Of the times he said that about elected officials, this is the first time I'm not going to argue with it. Yeah, no, that sounds right. That said, Alex is completely making up everything he just said about her election win. First, let's remember that she was running

essentially unopposed since her opponent had withdrawn from the race prior to the election. Alex is claiming that she won by a record margin because he wants to create the impression that she was just saying Info Wars stuff and that stuff is so popular that it wins elections by record amounts. So everyone should adopt the most popular stuff, which is Info Wars stuff. This is something that he is pulling out of thin air. Greene won her race 74.7 percent to 25.3 percent. She didn't win by 75 percentage points as Alex is claiming. He just doesn't know the actual details or doesn't care to be accurate. That's fine though, since I think you could be generous and assume he just meant that she won with 75 percent vote. I would say that's probably

what he's close enough and I don't expect him to actually know what he's talking about or be accurate. Yeah. What's more egregious is him trying to say that the previous record for Republican running for Congress had just been 69 percent margin or the vote. Who knows? Yeah. Either it's completely insane. Just in the 2020 election for the US House in Florida's second district, Neil Dunne won a seat against independent Kim O'Connor by a 97.9 to 2.1 percent difference. That's a margin of 95.8 percent far higher than Marjorie Taylor Greene's margin. That's like if he ran against a half finished game of Hangman. Greene's official margin of victory was 49.4 percent, which is the 18th highest margin of victory among Republican House election winners. Hey,

that's not bad. Hang your head high. No, sure. Nothing wrong with that. Sure. Left it all out on the field. Alex desperately craves being seen as smart and having a ton of information at his disposal. But in order to create that perception, he generally just makes shit up knowing that no one will listening will even care. He'll probably just believe him. It's because he's a con man. Yeah. That would be why. Also, just because it's fun in the 2018 election, Republican Tom Graves won the same district seat that Greene did with 76.5 percent of the vote, which is more than she got. Yeah. His opponent received 23.5 percent of the vote. So that means his total vote and his margin of victory were both higher than Marjorie Taylor Greene's were. She's actually less popular

than the previous Republican who won that house seat. That is the future of the Republican party. And it's what you get when you use in for war stuff. That would happen. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We should kill half of the constituents is usually less popular than you might expect. Half of the constituents are going to have a problem with that. Yeah. The other half usually. So we get back to defending Matt Gaetz and it just does seem to be like, dude, parties, man, come on. Roger Stone is going to have the inside scoop I've got for my angles. My sources that talk to Gaetz. Gaetz has been on the show, but I haven't talked to him in years. And we got a pretty good picture of what happened and what's unfolding. This is Deep State Globalist

extortion. Is he a playboy? Was he at some parties with wild girls years ago? Maybe he truthfully does not remember or does not know. But this is extortion. This is a dirty trick. Okay. This is not strong. I would say I would say that's a that's a road to conviction. If that's your defense. Hey, I got drunk and party. That's wild. I would say that I went into this episode like the sort of the way that I explained it like I don't know enough about this case. I read the Times article. I read what the people who are, you know, the sources who are familiar with the investigation. Sure. We're saying and we'll wait and see what comes out of this. Sure. I don't know. The more I listen to this episode, the more I'm like, what are you doing? This is a terrible

defense. If this is your damage control like spin that you're doing, I got to think he killed people at those parties like that. Yeah. Yeah. I don't. I feel like he's trying to soften the blow of something worse. That's how it feels. Yeah. And I don't know if that's just because it's how Alex like operates or or what? Look, have you ever seen the movie bachelor party? He went to one donkey show. So not that big a deal. This is this is like, don't, don't let Alex anywhere near the court. If this happens to your honor, it doesn't matter if he doesn't remember your honor. I would like to say I made some calls. Well, I actually got some calls and I made some calls, people that know Gates. Well,

some big, big, big people. And they said, no, Gates is a playboy. Gates doesn't like underage women. Gates has never hid this that he's single and young. And he's not even, he doesn't even know if any of this is true. He doesn't, didn't fly with some underage woman. That's made up. This is a shakedown. But the question is, do they have some woman who can claim that, well, she was younger now. She's, you know, 20 something that she went out with him three years ago. But definitely he went to the FBI. Definitely it's a shakedown. So you're saying that he might have dated a 17 year old a few years ago. That is kind of what he's saying, isn't it?

Isn't that specifically what he's saying? Can you call a character witness for the prosecution and tell him to defend? This is a mess, man. Hey, Alex, we want you to really defend the shit out of Matt Gates. That's how confident we are that you're right, Alex. We're going to put you as the prosecution. That's how we're tying one hand behind our back, Alex. Hey, look, fucking dated a 17 year old, three years back. She's 20 now. That's the same thing as being 20. He went back then. That's nice of its math. He doesn't remember. What in the God's name is that? Holy shit. Let's see if Roger can do better. What is the inside poop? Back. I mean, if you had to name the single most effective member of the House in terms of fighting

for the America First agenda, it would have to be Matt Gates. It's not incidental that right here on this show only weeks ago, I mentioned him very realistically as a presidential contender. So this is a search and destroy mission. I know Matt Gates to be a person of extraordinary integrity. He was a playboy coming from you. That means a lot, Roger. A wonderful woman, ginger, who I've met several times. They're very much in love. This is not the Matt Gates that I know. This is a cheap political trick. This is an effort to derail his career. Folks don't know this, but Matt Gates's family is among the wealthiest families in Florida. Therefore, the motive makes them less suspicious. A black male is a very realistic one.

I'm getting so suspicious. The more this goes on. So suspicious. Why are they doing this? They don't have to. They don't. They don't. Their audience does not demand it. Alex could have legitimately just said this is all bullshit. Hey, Matt Gates, he's come out on Tucker and he said that he's being set up. See, let's move forward. Done. Now let's get to the big news of the day. Why are they doing this? I'm not going to give this story the time that they want me to. That's how integrity I've been based on. He spends over an hour on it. Yeah, absolutely. Wow. That, Roger, man, the only thing worse than having Alex defend me in court would be having Roger defend me in court. There's nothing wrong with it. I'm Roger Stone. I've done it all. These two

unsavory fucks, like being like, yeah, he's great. Makes me think this person is not great. And I understand that maybe that's, that's a bias of mine. Yeah. You know, not everybody who's beloved by villains is a villain themselves. Sure. Sure. I mean, if I was going to put money on it, I mean, I would say that the FBI should get some text records. And I would imagine the moment that New York time story came out, Roger Stone got a text saying, I did it. What do I do? That would be the most likely situation for me. So the narrative now becomes with Roger on board that they're trying to get rid of the gates because he's the heir apparent to Trump. Sure. In the 2024 election, basically.

The guy has enormous Cajones. He's got huge courage. You know, usually when you're young and you first get to Congress, they tell you to us. Oh yeah, he has incredible charisma. He's super smart. Definitely. They sense the alpha male. They're scared. Yeah, because he has many of the same traits as Trump. He's audacious. He's bold. He's a brawler. They don't want to take another beating like they took in 2016. So this is kind of what they're doing. I think they see their neck. I think the sense that I get, like it's still weird. They're trying to break Kavanaugh this. Yeah, perhaps. But I think it's even more than that. Yeah, I think that they feel an absence of their sort of idle, basically. Sure. There isn't a figurehead for them to coalesce around.

And I think that they're feeling the pressure of that. There's a crunch that Trump is absent in terms of being there. You know, they can still like say, Hey, we're Trump supporters. He's still the real president. Right. Right. But they still need somebody to be the face. Yeah, it's the fall of Stalin. They're all jockeying for position. And I think that the sense that I get from the conversation they're having, because they keep making a reference to like off air conversations that they've had. And the sense that I get is that Alex really thinks that Matt Gaetz should be the next person that gets the mantle of the weirdo conservative version, God King. Wow. And so I guess he's interpreting this as a preemptive attack on the part of the globalists again. And

you know what? I don't believe any of that's real. And I don't believe that's true. Sure. If Alex does believe that's true, then it kind of does make sense why he would spend an hour on this story. Yeah. But still, his defense is terrible. No, it's not good. It's not good. I mean, ultimately, his defense is like, why can't white men do whatever they want? Why can't Gaetz party? Yeah. Whoa. What are you going to judge him? He's white and he's a man. Come on now. You just let him do what he wants to do. Also, he's rich. What are you going to punish him for? What if like, I don't know, Beto. What if it came out that Beto had dated a 17-year-old? Or are there allegations of that? How do you think Alex would respond to that?

I mean, we'd go apeshit. Yeah. And that's, but that's the point of not giving a shit about what aboutism. We're not going to beat them at what abouting. No, they're there. It's like they're bread and butter. No, it's just kind of something that can be a little bit funny to imagine how much you would freak out. Totally. Yeah. But hey, look, the reality is, based on the claims that are being made, Gaetz says that there are tapes that prove his innocence, that the FBI has. Okay. And if that's the case, then those should be able to come out and, you know, resolve this whole thing. Fine. I still hate you for all the other shit you do. Yeah. Yeah. Roger demands the tapes. Most importantly, let's hear the tapes. We need to hear the tapes.

The key is he went to the FBI. They had a sting up. They were about to bust him yesterday. Somebody in the FBI leaked that info to the New York Times for damage control. Gaetz was about to have a devastating victory. I think that's exactly right. By retiring from Congress? So the idea that they're presenting now is basically that there was this guy who, by the way, Matt Gaetz said by name, accused by name on Tucker Carlson's show. Yeah. This guy, who was a former Justice Department official, sure, is trying to extort Gaetz and his family for money. Sure. There's the allegation that they'll come out with if he doesn't pay up or whatever. And so his dad had been wearing a wire in order to entrap this person. As you do.

And because they were just about to nail this extortionist, the New York Times got leaked this information about the allegations that were the threat to Matt Gaetz's extortion. And to be honest, I don't know if I believe all that. It seems like a defense that's being made. And if that's the case, it should be very easy to clear this up. Oh yeah, not hard at all. It should be incredibly easy. And then that person who used to work at the Justice Department should go to prison. Yeah, it's not hard. No. It's like these people don't understand that law, if it's to function at all, is to be applied equally. Otherwise, it is not law. That is a struggle. Yeah. So the New York Times reporter who covered this story, they reached out to Roger.

He sent Roger an email. And I think part of that is because Roger was hanging out with you. Did he do it? Hey, level with me. Hey buddy, look, this is off the record. Just tell me if he did it or not. Hey, Raj, we have a picture of you and hit him and Greenberg at Mar-a-Lago. And I'll say you follow up question. Did you do it? So Roger got an email and he's got a response for the guy and this gets Alex really excited. I actually got an email from Michael Schmidt, the reporter at the New York Times that wrote this story today. I'm going to be releasing my response because it is quite extraordinary. They don't hold the New York Times to the same standards they hold everybody else to. It is amazing linked to associated with,

is known to have spent time with. That's killed by association. Hold on. I want the exclusive. Can you pull up the email? I want to hear your response to the New York Times. Yeah, you'll get a chance to take a look at it. I've got to touch it up a little bit because the more I read it, the angrier I get. And then Alex was like, yeah, when you get a chance to touch that up, could you go in the War Room and War Room and talk about it? Yeah. Roger's response is, yeah, if I'm awake. Dude, you're in Florida. It's not late. It does not give a shit anymore. I go to bed at four. You dinner at three and I'm at bed at four. It's a good life. It's not a bad life. Yeah. So Alex really is thirsty for that, that exclusive. At what? How

many pictures with alleged or convicted sex traffickers can you be in before people start? Look, dude, at a certain point you got to let that go because they congregate at Mar-a-Lago. Yeah, that's true. You know, if you go there, there's probably a picture of you with a perv. See, now that's probably another thing we should put a red flag up about. Right. But I mean, like, it's not, you know, you go to, you go to Mos Eisley Cantina. You're going to get a picture taken of you and a smuggler. Sure, sure. It's going to be a hum of sky of ability. Yes, I get that. Yeah, that doesn't mean that you're a smuggler just because they took a picture of you with. Right, right. You just like to hang out at the place where smugglers go. And I get,

and I get that. But how many pictures do you get to be, like, look, I get it, one or two. And then you see that picture and you go, ooh, that's not going to look good later on. When you're at five, then it's just too many. You sound like the fucking left, guilt by association all over the place. And it's not good. I'm just saying there's just too many of them. Anyway, look, on our first episode that we ever did, we learned that it was time to pray because Benjamin Netanyahu was the canary in the coal mine. Was that what it was? Jesus, Jesus, five goddamn years later, and we're still praying. I have to tell you, it is still time to pray. Roger, Roger, I know for real, because I've talked to you privately,

I see the tears in your eyes when we've been in person. When you were saying, pray with me, you start crying. You were always a Christian, but you don't let us pray. None of us are perfect. Get a little bit of partying here and there. None of it was wrong. In God's eyes, because you were penned of it by King David. But let's pray. We got a minute and a half left to break, but lead us in prayer for Congressman Matt Gaetz, please. You've got to imagine, Roger, like, you mother fucker. You son of a bitch. How dare you? You are, you're begging me to go to me to pray. How dare you? First off, you're telling this bullshit about me crying while prayer. Get the fuck out of here. I think that's good for all their images, though. I think,

I think that's fine. That's, that's the version of the story that you'd want to know. He's the penitent man who is hardened by your God King naturally. Yeah. Yeah. That's what you do. Yeah. And you go overboard with it too. Yes. Rending his garments and beating his chest. As is Alex's sort of style. Yes. But yeah, it, I mean, look, it's rude to be like, will you lead us in prayer? I on my dumb conspiracy theory show where we're saying that Matt Gaetz may have dated a 17 year old years ago, but who knows? He doesn't remember his wild parties. Whatever. I would be mad if you asked me to pray the day before, let alone five minutes on the spot. Yeah. So I was like, is Roger going to pray? I want to hear it. Okay. Look, I'm not the most articulate,

but I'll give it a try. Dear Lord, those of you who created both heaven and earth, you who stand for justice and hate injustice, please watch over Matt Gaetz in this struggle for his freedom. He is a good man. He is a godly man. He is an innocent man. He is a man of great promise. Do not let the left wing hate machine that sought to destroy me, sought to destroy General Flynn, now destroy this great American patriot. Oh man. And by the way, that's another topic for you to come back. We're trying to get Flynn to run. We're begging him on our knees. Okay, weird. Oh man, just go back to when like he was a young operative working with like Nixon. Yeah. And be like, Hey, in 2021, you're going to be hanging out with Alex Jones and praying on

air. He would have hit you with a two by four like you're a mule. Yeah. Yeah. He is a sad piece of shit. This is wild. Just as bad. Just like, I don't understand why this isn't something that like would have more media coverage. Like this, this to me seems like so bizarre. Roger Stone prays on air. I know, but like, like they, Roger Stone still has to be a big bad in media. He can't, they can't just portray him as this sad. I mean, just real pathetic nonsense, man. I think also to the, as I, as I say that out loud, I think I kind of realized that were you to cover something that way, you might run the risk of offending people who are Christian or religious. Like the idea that it's not, it's not mocking prayer. No, it's mocking the idea that one, it's Roger Stone,

two, it's on Alex Jones's show. It's more of that. And I think that that tone might not be able to be properly conveyed. So that makes sense. I mean, the right wing machine would turn it into a massive deal, but I can't, like if you are by any stretch and adherent to the, the intent of the Bible, I would argue that that prayer is way more offensive to Christians than any article being like Roger Stone is an asshole. Don't let them do what they did to me. Yeah. That like, not even God is above the left, right paradigm. Is that what we're doing? Apparently not. Well, he is. Your God is pathetic and shitty. That's what Alex is. Alex's God is above the left, right paradigm. And that means that he's super to the right, super to the right. Yeah. So Alex at the end there was talking

about how we want to draft Mike Flynn, uh, General Flynn, uh, to run for president. And you talk about this a little bit. The human, human Roger are not quite on the same page. Let's draft, uh, General Flynn to, to, to get going. What do you think, Roger? Look, I think I've made it as clear as I can that if the president runs, I'm for the president and he has the right to make that decision and he has the luxury to make it in his own time. But if the president doesn't run, it's absolutely vital that we have a candidate, a man or a woman who really understands and supports and completely is committed to hold on to five more minutes. Exactly. Well, on Flynn, we need to stand in and I get you're being delicate here. We're not against Trump. If

Trump ain't going to do it, we have to fire up Flynn and we were firing up Gates by the scenes. They have to have them ready in case Trump doesn't do it. Hey, Alex, you dumb fuck. Uh, Trump pardon me. I have loyalty to him for life. I'm going to say Trump. Yeah, forever. Yeah, forever. We can have hypothetical conversations about anybody else, but you have to understand that I will always give a previso that Trump is technically still president, even if Gates were president, Trump should be. Yeah. Yep. Yep. But I mean, it's just becomes all too apparent there that the way that they're conversing that like we're looking for a stand in. Yeah. Yeah. We need somebody to get the dum-dums as excited as Trump did. And it's not going to happen. And

Matt Gates is the kind of shithead who would wear a gas mask. Right. And then get COVID. Right. But they just don't have any of it. Like it's, it's very abundantly clear now that nobody, but Trump has this stuff that the like total attributes that are necessary to pull off a Trump campaign, you know, like Gates isn't going to be able to, cause he doesn't have that image of being a successful billionaire. He's kind of a piece of shit. Yeah. He's an asshole. Yeah. And he can't pull off any kind of sexual impropriety scandal because he's too young and not enough people want to back him in order to run interference for him. So we're probably going to wind up with Trump is the Republican candidate and it's going to be so sad and miserable for everybody.

So long as the media learns any lessons from 2016 and 2020. Can't imagine that. So I imagine that we're going to have Trump in 2025. Yep. But it's okay, Dan, if the Democrats pull it together and govern effectively, there's no way that a right wing. Anyway, let's move on. So Alex has he lets Roger go and who very confusing, very, very, very confusing. I think I get generally what they're doing, but it's still like I can't imagine having any time to prepare and thinking like this is the defense that we're going to spend like half of the show on. Yeah. That is bizarre. Have a better defense tomorrow. Yeah. That makes the most sense. Yeah. Be like, Hey, we know these allegations are terrible and we're going to look into it and we'll have more. Roger is not available today.

He'll be on tomorrow to talk about it. Yep. Roger could be asleep. Who knows? Who cares? Yep. It just doesn't matter. Really silly. Take your time. But Alex has also built up this entire story about the everyone who stormed the Capitol is getting off scot-free and the Libs are really mad about it. So Stuart Rhodes is on along with his lawyer. I was going to say, you better have a lawyer present. I don't know if this lawyer is going to be helpful. Stuart should have his lawyer next to him at all times. This lawyer might need a lawyer. Oh boy. As an ex prosecutor, what do you think of the fiasco? I actually is kind of how it's been since the beginning. I think I thought that they were overreaching. They seem to have an agenda that they wanted everything to fit into,

but the facts just don't support that. I don't know if it was something they had planned because I believe that that event was funded somehow with Antifa. But I think they wanted patriots to act up more than what happened. And then they have continued to try to push a narrative that the facts don't fit into. You were here over a month ago. That's what you said in the green room. You weren't on air. You said it looks strange. We're not sure yet. But so Stuart Rhodes' lawyer that he brings along thinks Antifa paid to do something. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know, I think I think the past few years have really taken a lot of shine off of the legal minds of our country. This lawyer seems insane. Yeah. I think most lawyers now are starting to sound a lot more

and more insane. Yeah. Him and him and Stuart, Alex and Stuart, and this lawyer, they just talk about how like everybody on the right is good. Of course. Yes. Yes. We're all angels over here and everybody on the left drinks a dream of chrome and it's kind of dumb and it's not really all that interesting or, you know, it doesn't bring much to us. But Stuart does have a prediction that we've got to put on the record so we can, you know. Okay. All right. We're looking at the summer of rage. They're speeding your timetable up. That's why it's important for us to understand what's coming. You should expect them to decouple the dollar from the world currency and kill the dollar this summer. And what you're going to have to do is become strong. They want us divided in

week. We got to unite to become strong. That means food and fuel and ammunition, the clean water, the ability to self sustain so you can resist the compulsory ticking of the vaccine in order to eat. And I totally agree with you. So yeah, the dollar is going to be destroyed this summer. Look for that. Everybody who believes that take your stuff and just go into the woods, create a splinter society and leave the rest of us alone. Or if you believe that, take the dollar that still has some value. Okay. Pay your internet bill. Sure. Download an episode of Alex Jones from last year saying that this year will be the summer of rage. That might be too expensive. And then download a couple years back when he did it. Every year. Now five G's how they

get you. Now I'll go back to like years and years in the past and say tomorrow they're going to do value the dollar while he's conveniently selling gold. It helps. It helps to sell gold. It's outrageous. I mean, we'll see. Oh no, this summer. Oh man, I'm really worried. I'm really worried. So Stuart's whole big thing is that the government is going to starve everybody. That's his new thing that he's pushing pretty hard. It's going to be tough to win votes on a platform of starve everyone, but we'll see how they pull it off, Dan. Counterpoint. Yeah. Here's a great, here's a great electoral strategy. Okay. Hey, do you miss food? Here is food. Here is food. I will vote for food, sir. I think that's what Stuart is trying to, trying to get

triggering people's minds. Anyway, come to the end of this and it's, it's weird because I think, I think obviously I'm more interested in non present day Alex Jones. He's very, he's a very dumb, uninteresting person, but this, this defensive gates really did interest me in as much as like, I hate mad gates and I'm not interested in piling on him. Sure. Until we know more naturally. Alex, his defense makes me suspicious. It really makes me think that Alex knows something that we don't know and it's bad and it's real bad. That's what it makes me think. It's hard to get any other impression. Obviously we don't know that. Now it's good just be, you know, knee jerk, protect your own kind of thing and, and you know, maybe there's something.

And I would say that if this is his knee jerk reaction, that's probably just as illuminating as if he does know something that we don't know because his knee jerk reaction is like, come on, sexual assault's fine. You know, like it's, it's kind of weirdo conservative. Exactly. Yes. It is, it is that basic kind of feel to it. So if that's your knee jerk reaction, I think we know how you're going to react to just about everybody. Yeah. Yeah. It doesn't, it doesn't, it was not an enjoyable bit of time to listen to this show. It's confusing. Yeah. So yeah, I don't know. We'll, we'll check back in. We'll see how things are going. Of course. And, but until then, we have a website. We do have a website. It's knowledge fight.com. Yep. We're also on Twitter. We are on

Twitter. It's that knowledge of the fight and I go to bed Jordan. We're on Facebook. We are on Facebook and down the side. If you could please find a local charity or bail fund in your area to help out people doing God's work. We'll be back. But until then, I'm Leo. I'm Leo. I'm DZX Clark. I'm Daryl Rundis. So what do you think about them apples? Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. Hello, Alex. I'm a first time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you.