Knowledge Fight - #547: April 8, 2021

Episode Date: April 9, 2021

Today, Dan and Jordan check in with Alex Jones in the aftermath of him pretending to have saved some children from human smugglers. In this installment, Alex makes escalates the situation even further..., and talks to a clearly unhinged Ted Nugent.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys knowledge fight. I need money. Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. Knowledge fight. Knowledge fight. I love you. Hey, everybody. Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're couple dudes like sit around trick novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Oh, indeed. We are Dan Jordan. Jordan. Quick question. What's up? What's your bright spot today? My bright spot today. Jordan is Hey, I finally got an appointment to get a vaccine. Thank you. Very exciting. It's been I've been I'm past due in terms of like the groupings and what have you and I've been trying to find a
Starting point is 00:01:28 place where I can go get a shot. And I'm finally as people are listening to this, it comes out on Friday. Oh, that's true. I'm going tomorrow to get my shot. So I'm excited about that. I'm very excited. I'm embarking on this next chapter of life. We're free or something approximating it. Yeah. And also as a sort of byproduct of this, this bright spot, I don't know if there's going to be, you know, any kind of side effects like a fever or, you know, tiredness or anything. And so in the interest of that, I'm going to give myself the weekend for just self and rest recuperation. And so our Monday episode will actually come out on Wednesday. Yes, we're going to push that back just for the sake of safety, better safe than sorry. It's like to
Starting point is 00:02:16 sit around and drink some tea maybe or something. You know, there's anything that the pandemic has taught us. It's maybe be overly cautious from time to time. Yeah, you know, it's sort of I want to I want to be like that image of what my parents thought I was doing when I stayed home from school sick when I was in school. Oh, he's just watching the prices right like everybody else does. Sipping soup. Just sitting there with a little blanket on. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Letting those those fumes open up my porers and my sinuses. Yeah, you got it. Yeah. So that's that's exciting. That's wonderful. Yeah. We're all very excited. My bright spot, Dan, is Godspeed, You Black Emperor. Yeah, you're telling me it's a new album and it is spectacular. It is so
Starting point is 00:03:00 good. They're on like almost 25 years as a band or something. They're incredible. It's fantastic. They still got it, Dan. I feel like you and I were supposed to do something and you couldn't because you had to listen to listening to Godspeed. Hey, work can't get done. Sorry. I would look. I would love to help but Godspeed released a new album. So I'm going to have to listen to this 40 minute opus. I understand. Yeah, I understand. So Jordan, today we have an interesting little bit to go over. I don't know if you've been able to keep unaware of some of the news. Some of it I have been unable to stay unaware of. All right. So we'll get into some of that. All right. Before we do, let's take a little moment to say hello and thank you to some new
Starting point is 00:03:46 walks. Oh, that's a great idea. First, this person, JDO. JDO. I don't know how to pronounce that. Sure. JDO. They also were kind enough to mention. Tell me about an event that's coming up in Oklahoma where all kinds of weirdos are speaking and, man, I want to go. I believe Mike Adams has given a speech. Oh, no. I really would like to go, but I don't think I'm going to be able to make it. But anyway, thank you, JDO. I'm a policy wonk. You're now a policy wonk. Thank you. Next, Oi, Hawkin. Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. Oi, Hawkin. This person also wanted me to give a shout out to the Knowledge Fighters. Apparently, there's a Discord server. Is that what it's called? I have no idea. Discord
Starting point is 00:04:34 is beyond me. Yeah, me too. But there's apparently a place where listeners of the show congregate and chat up. And I've heard it's a lot of fun. Oh, that's great. That's really great that I'm just now finding it. Next, Justice for N.A.C. Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. And that is our rallying cry, Dan. Next, P. Biggs. Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thanks, P. Biggs. Thank you. Next, Dirk Querdinker. Dirk Querdinker. Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. Dirk Querdinker. Oh, boy. I think they said that they wanted me to mispronounce it. Mispronounce it. Yeah. Okay. Next, Zaprodozer. Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk.
Starting point is 00:05:19 I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. Zaprodozer. Rose dozer. Thank you so much. Zaprodozer. Apologies. I'm only here. Zapranigan in my head. So that's what I got. Next, Jux. Jux definitely killed his daughter. Chuck Norris wasn't wearing a wig. Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. And finally, like to say thank you and give a shout out to a new technocrat. This is, uh, thank you so much. Treadmark. You're now a technocrat. I'm a policy wonk. Crikey, Mike. That's fantastic. Have yourself a brew. How's your 401k doing, bro? All right. We got to go full tilt buggy on this Watson. All right. Let's just get down to business. We ain't making that money off that heroin. Why are you pimp so good? My neck is
Starting point is 00:06:01 freakishly large. I declare info war on you. Thanks so much, Treadmark. Yes. Thank you very much, Treadmark. Treadmark also wanted me to give a shout out to, uh, Reddit board. Ah, shit. I forgot the name of it. Um, are the Donald I believe was the one that he really wanted to get a get out there. So Jordan, there's been some news. Yes, Dan. So I, I'd been all ready to go back to 2003 for today's episode, have some fun learning about the past and what have you. Of course. But then at the last minute, all my plans got thrown into whack as is always the case. Alex went down to the border. He was looking for a soul to steal. And on Wednesday, he released a video of himself accosting somebody who was transporting some children, possibly recklessly in the back of a
Starting point is 00:06:49 station wagon. Sure. Alex, or maybe it was more of a van. I don't know. I don't know car types. Anyway, Alex and his associates yell at the guy driving the car about how he's been caught smuggling people. Sure. And it is a huge mess. Uh-huh. I don't know what all the details of the situation are at this point, but I do know that I don't believe for a second that Alex and his dumb posse found someone just smuggling children casually. I'm going to wait to dig into this until there's a little bit more public information because I can see this going a couple of different directions. And honestly, Alex better keep his fingers crossed because it looks like a couple things in that video that he released could be crimes. Oh, that's not good. He's sitting there
Starting point is 00:07:26 banging like on the roof of a car trying to physically stop it from leaving. Yeah. Which could be a problem. He's acting in ways that some might interpret as defamatory. I mean, it does a little bit sound like Alex Jones just started attacking Clark Griswold on the way the fucking theme park. I'm not a legal expert, but it really looks like this video is an open and shut case of defamation against a charity that is alleged to be involved in this smuggling. This is Catholic Charities RGV. Their address and signs are clearly shown in the video, and the accusation is very clear from Alex's actions that this charity is essentially a front for smuggling. That's probably defamatory. This organization is the Catholic Charities of the
Starting point is 00:08:11 Rio Grande Valley, and the specific building that Alex was staking out was the Humanitarian Crisis Relief Center that they began operating last summer. Right. According to their website, this is at the Sacred Heart Catholic Church in McAllen, Texas. The center provides a place for the countless men, women, and children and infant refugees to rest, have a warm meal, a shower, and change into clean clothing, as well as receive medicine and other supplies before continuing on their journey. So Alex was like, quick, someone's acting Christlike. Destroy them. Okay. If you look into this specific charity, it becomes a little interesting that Alex would choose this one to focus on. The organization was started by a nun named Sister Norma Pimentel,
Starting point is 00:08:52 who was a very fierce and public critic of Trump's border policies. To her credit, she was also a vocal opponent of Obama's policies, but that probably doesn't matter to Alex. She wrote an op-ed in The Washington Post in February 2020 titled, quote, President Trump Don't Ignore the Suffering at the Border Caused by Your Policies. In 2019, she was invited to participate in what was called a round table conversation about issues of the border with Trump himself. That one was called back in the habit, I believe. Sister Pimentel was disappointed by what she experienced as she discussed in an interview with Texas Monthly, quote, Trump asked every single person at the table to say something. And I realized that when they were speaking, they were just reaffirming
Starting point is 00:09:34 what it was that he had talked about and congratulating him. I realized that the round table was about listening to and reaffirming his plans. He didn't really give local people an opportunity to say anything. That is unsurprising. Very recently in March 2021, she was featured in an article in the Rio Grande Guardian that begins like this, quote, the executive director of Catholic Charities of the Rio Grande Valley thinks, thanks God for President Biden's decision to reverse the Trump administration's migrant protection protocols policy. Sister Norma Pimentel says it's God's plan to have asylum requests of unaccompanied minors from Central America fully processed in the United States. Sure. Mere days ago on April 4th, Sister Pimentel was interviewed
Starting point is 00:10:19 on Face the Nation where she discussed how Biden's changes to Trump's policies have changed her work. Okay. So you're saying that a few days ago, just a few days, perhaps even what, one or two days before this incident occurred, right around the person who began or started the very charity that Alex Wilk Austin and defamed, who has been a TV and also been a long time public critic of Trump's policies. And again, for the sake of, you know, giving it up for moral clarity and consistency was also a critic of Obama's policies and is a critic of these new policies not going far enough. But in as much as they are representative of progress in the areas that she works in, she is congratulatory of them. So what you have just told me is that this was a
Starting point is 00:11:09 completely extemporaneous event. Alex was wandering around and heard the call to action. No, but here's the thing. Instinctively ran to stop this human trafficking from occurring. No, but here's the thing. I can totally believe he doesn't know any of this. I actually can't totally believe that too. It could totally be a coincidence. Yeah. I was looking into this charity and like trying to understand a little bit more about it and like all these things like, oh, this is a person who's in a someone who Alex absolutely would target. Oh, despise. Yeah. But at the same time, I can totally see this just being a situation where he went to McAllen, Texas. Yeah. Was hanging out outside waiting for the optics to be right.
Starting point is 00:11:57 Sure. Then he created a scene. Sure. Did a publicity stunt. Yeah. And blah, blah, blah, blah. Here we go. Yeah, that sounds about right. But better hope this doesn't go to court because I think you could make a pretty compelling case that Alex has a reason to have animus towards this organization based on their political differences. I'm struggling to live in a world where a judge might disagree with me on what is very clearly an open and shut case. I don't like living in a world where a judge is like, well, if you interpret that, no, no, no, no, this is too obvious. Yeah. So I don't really care to deconstruct this video in and of itself because it's just Alex yelling at a guy in a car. It's great. On April 8th,
Starting point is 00:12:41 the Catholic Charities released a statement hoping to clarify the various defamatory claims made by Alex. The response makes total sense. The only thing that that guy, the only thing that I think is missing is a threat of legal action. Yeah. But again, this is up to everybody themselves to, of course, to deal with on their own terms and decide whether they want to go through that rig them a role in that public embarrassment. It will be difficulty. Oh yeah, I wouldn't, I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy. No, I would wish it on Alex though. So never mind. I do. I would wish that on my worst enemy. Yeah, I wouldn't wish whatever the person suing him would have to go through all the difficulty. Yeah. I understand why some people are reluctant
Starting point is 00:13:21 to totally. But boy, this seems like a pretty easy case. Shouldn't shouldn't take a shouldn't take too long to work its way through the courts now. I can imagine Alex giving a blustery speech about how he'll fight this or die. Sure. And then a week later issuing a public apology that I don't want to, I don't want to get in the way of nuns doing all their business. I love nuns. The nuns are good people. Yeah. Did you see sister act two back in the habit? This is how I'm going to poach Jordan's jokes. It was pretty great. So yeah, I don't want to talk about that video in and of itself, but what I thought might be interesting is seeing what happens on the eighth because this is, you know, this is Thursday. This
Starting point is 00:14:01 is after he's had the social media flare up over this video. He's had his moment. It's been posted. We went to all kinds of viral and stuff. Of course. And yeah, I wanted to see where he was at on the eighth. Sure. Let's see what happens. So here's another context drop from this show. I'm not okay. And is anybody the good guy in Ukraine? They've been killing each other for so long. Eastern and Western Ukraine. It's it's like the bath cocks and McCoy's. What is anybody the bad guy in Ukraine is a dark question. Well, you're focusing on the different part than I understand that half cocks and the McCoy. I don't know what to do with the half cocks and the McCoy's. I just heard that and stroked out. Yeah, I know that the people misspeak and whatever.
Starting point is 00:14:49 And I'm not a picker, but this is not a context drop. First of all, and second of all, if there's anything that Alex's persona should know a lot about the Hatfields in the McCoy's. Yeah, you think so? Not the half asses in the McCoy's. Yikes. Oh man. Now I want to start a gang called the half cocks and just never explain the name. Sure. People are just like, what are they called in the half cocks? Yeah, we should get windbreakers unrelated to this conversation entirely. That was just a random thought. We should just get windbreakers. Yeah. So here we we're going to start here on April 8th. And I will say it seems like Alex isn't even thinking about the border this video. Of course. Anything. Of course. The alarm bells are hitting. China has now with
Starting point is 00:15:40 aircraft carriers and over 100 ships, large ships, thousands total encircled Taiwan and has heavy bombers flying over it. The Taiwanese say they may start firing missiles any minute. That was this morning. Last night there. All hell is breaking loose. The Russians are massing troops on the edge of Ukraine because Biden's sending in heavy weapons. And there are major artillery battles going on between proxy US and Russian forces. And we are not the good guys in this. So we got we got a world war coming together here. That does sound pretty much the seems to be in the coal mine. This seems to be the line that Alex is taking now, which I find interesting because a couple days prior he was really going hard on this spars documentary.
Starting point is 00:16:29 Sure. And then he went to the border and did a giant publicity stuff. Right. Right. Right. And now it's world war. Now we're moving on. This is this is confusing. I hear this is chaotic. What I am hearing while he speaks is the advice of a lawyer in his ear going. Don't explain anything about that. The more you talk about it else. Do you remember what happened with the million dollar bounty? Do you remember? Oh, no. I mean, you're wrong about that. But it is. It's weird that he starts the show like this. He does get into the video. Well, of course. So if there's a lawyer in his ear, he forgets about it very quickly. You got to keep the lawyer in there at all times. I think that one of the reasons that Alex is going on and starting his show sort of
Starting point is 00:17:07 leading with this idea about world war and all this is because that day Biden was giving a speech about gun control regulation ideas. Sure. And that that fits more in those sets. Yeah. Yeah. I'll make more clear what I mean a little bit later as we go through. But the beginning of this show in a large portion of the top of it is Alex playing Biden's speech and then just sort of rambling over it. Sure. Thank you for having the courage. He cares so much about violence. It's why Obama fun of the Arab Spring. This fight. Bastion furious, killed millions. Senator Blumenthal understands. With the guns with millions to Mexico. A lot of folks out here understand it. He transhipped weapons to terrorism. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:17:53 With the pain and the purpose of the man that we take the action and give him a gun running, communist, Chinese criminal. Enough. Yeah, enough of you funded terrorists. You drug dealing, pedophile. Boy, so it's that. It's that for a while. It's pretty annoying. He's interrupting like Joe Biden is the highway man. It's it's a little annoying. Yeah, that's frustrating. Yeah. So he keeps insisting that fast and furious is the silver bullet that will take down the O Biden administration. How long did it take to get there? It seems like that should have happened way earlier. He kept calling Biden Obama and then he just put it together. Yeah, for a while he's been called so frustrating. The reason I keep calling him Obama is because
Starting point is 00:18:37 it's O Biden was right there guys. It was right there. It's not hard to get there. Nope. This is Alex doing his his level best at being rush. This is why the right is terrible in comedy. They can't even pick up found jokes. Yeah, terrible. I would say that if Alex were to get sued over this video where he is, you know, in my opinion, probably defaming this charity. Yeah, almost certainly. One of his best defenses might be that like not many people saw it, you know, it's no big deal. Unfortunately, here he is bragging. See now, there's where we get into trouble. And then what happened yesterday? Two days ago, we put out the video that has probably 50 million views. I mean, it's just everywhere and the smuggling going on. It's all illegal.
Starting point is 00:19:29 He didn't sign executive order. He didn't pass a law. He didn't repeal law. He just said surge us before he's even stole the election. And then now he congratulates them on the great job they've done. And then there's the quote Catholic charity that's run by the Democratic Party. Just one of the facilities there in McAllen, Texas. And then they are loading little kids in to a trunk like luggage. And we stop them. The police say, yeah, we're doing illegal. Take them out. They go inside. We catch more cars doing it. We haven't even put that footage out. I don't think you will. I suspect that that footage is not forthcoming. Yeah. We'll see though. Yeah. I mean, he's just bragging about how many people saw this, which I think works against his eventual probable argument
Starting point is 00:20:13 that he's going to need to make. Yeah. He's not good at this. He's not good at this. Yeah. This is not good. But then again, if he doesn't get sued and there's no legal trouble, then I guess he will. Yeah. Yep. Anyway, Alex has this, this, uh, be in his bonnet about the idea that people are saying that he staged this whole thing. He went down to the border and he staged it. Well, it seems like he didn't like capture a coyote. No, so much as found people who were doing exactly what they said they were going to be doing and it costed them. Yeah. And then how does literally dozens of national newspapers said, Jones probably staged this. There are no crisis. Yeah. I staged the McAllen police. I staged the kids being put to trunk. I mean, if I could stage
Starting point is 00:20:58 something like that with a hundred million dollar budget, I would be better than Joe Rogan going to pay for it. The top directors out there. Alex couldn't think of one director. Um, Spielberg. No, he's a globalist. Scorsese. No, he's a global and Tarantino. I hate that guy. Ryan Johnson. No, I was a bad. I wasn't a fan of the last Jedi. What else do we got? I'm still bitter that I wasn't in Guardians of the Galaxy. James Scott. Yeah. Add that one into the list. You know, all he's got is Clint Eastwood. Probably. Yeah. So the media didn't say this about Alex. On April 7th, I couldn't find like any media outlets even really covering this publicity stunt and the actual media outlets. I mean, there was like a gateway punt. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure.
Starting point is 00:21:47 But there were a bunch of random people tweeting about it. And I think that Alex is just pretending that random tweets saying that he probably staged the video is the same thing as dozens of media outlets and national newspapers covering it. What is, what is new media other than tweets going national, man? Yeah. That's new media. I think I've come up with this equation and that is random tweets plus narcissism equals literally. That's a good, that's a good equation. Yeah. I think that's what's going on. So Alex is saying that everybody's saying that he's just made this up and he staged it. And it's like back in 2009 when he covered Bill de Bergman and everybody said that he was making it up. And the New York Times said it did not exist. And then I was having
Starting point is 00:22:32 a full schizophrenic breakdown in the parking lot. That's because back then folks, Bilderberg didn't exist. Within two years, it was all over the news because back then the Drudge Report was not, I guess, run by CNN. I was told that CNN bought it two years ago. I didn't believe it. It's, it looks like it's true. But Drudge, the real Drudge, back when Drudge actually owned it, exposed all that. This is so fucking stupid. A quick search will disprove the idea that the media claimed that Bilderberg didn't exist until 2008. I'm sorry, I said 2009 earlier. When Alex and Drudge exposed it. For instance, there's a September 2005 article in the BBC titled, quote, Inside the Secret of Bilderberg Group, or you could look at John Ronson's 2001 book, Them
Starting point is 00:23:18 Adventures with Extremists, excerpts of which were published in The Guardian. And it was accompanied by the release of his TV show, Secret Rulers of the World, which featured an episode where he and Alex Jones go to Bohemian Grove. And the other episode of it was about the Bohemian, the Bilderberg Group. No tweets at the time. Oh, there's also a reference to the Bilderberg meetings in a 1999 Wired article that you can easily find. All right. All right. When Alex said that the media said that he was imagining the whole thing, what he means is that no one accepted his imaginary framing of real life events. People didn't say that the meeting or the group itself didn't exist. Just that the stories that Alex was selling his audience about them didn't stand up to scrutiny.
Starting point is 00:23:58 Yeah, that's the accusation that he made up the Bilderberg Group. Excuse me, Alex, you're full of shit can mean many different things. Yeah. Yeah. Also, I'd like to learn more about how the Drudge Report was secretly sold to CNN two years ago. Sounds like another thing that Alex is pulling out of fucking air. I would be interested to hear about that. Did you did you look deep into that? I didn't. You didn't. Did you reach out to Drudge for comment? I looked for tax filings. I don't know. Yeah, nonsense. Yeah, whatever. So I think that there's overlap between this idea of like when people are accusing Alex of making stuff up, they're not talking about like the actual event or whatever. Right. And so like with the video that he shot down near the border,
Starting point is 00:24:41 it's the same thing. It's like you didn't make up that someone got in a car. You're just lying about the surrounding 9-11 was an inside job. You're full of shit. You don't think 9-11 happened? No, obviously it happened. Yeah. You may have actually said it didn't happen at some point. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, that's fair. I got to review all the tapes. Yeah. So when Alex is making these accusations, obviously, that's bad. But there are certainly ways that he could make the situation worse, which he decides to do in this next clip. Putting out a million dollar bouts. I'm not going to say what we're going to do, but I'm obviously going to be going back to the border very soon. I'm not going to say it's going to be tomorrow or even this weekend. It might be today. I'm just
Starting point is 00:25:19 going to tell you that. I've already decided when I'm going. I'm going. I'm not going to tell this system our win. And quite frankly, if I had the money because we're maxed out right now, I would have a full-time team just in McAllen and in Brownsville roving the Texas border. It is Wild Wild West, insane, illegals everywhere you go. Buses everywhere you go. Total children sleeping in dirt under bridges. We sent a drone in there. They had a geo fence up so we couldn't show them in the dirt. But Project Veritas got folks in there. We have all these whistleblowers, all this whistleblower video, people that saw children being raped inside the facilities. We broke that on Monday. Now you see Governor Abbott talking about it. I mean, I flew over with a
Starting point is 00:26:01 helicopter. We have hours and hours and hours of this footage. And that's why you need to go to infowarstore.com so we can stay on air. Wow. Now do you see what's happening is everything we talked about went on despite the fact you're trying to censor us and block us. Info wars, I want to report to you our success so that you understand why you've supported us as the core audience of the core radio stations that are like, you know, funding us to go out be the missionaries to tell the truth against the globalist. That's what you're doing here. So there's something a little bit disgraceful about using this as a like directly as a fundraising. Yeah, it's a little bit like holding your audience hostage. Yeah, it also will be difficult for Alex were somebody to sue him for
Starting point is 00:26:42 this to it would be hard for him to argue that he's not using it in order to make money. Yeah, because that's literally what he's doing here. Yeah. And as far as the criminal malicious intent towards the border saying, I'm not going to tell the system how or when I'm going to get there, seems like admitting to a certain amount of suspicious activity. I'm gonna be sneaky. Yeah, exactly. Now, if you want to escalate this even further, Alex has a great idea for you. And that is one of his old tricks. I mean, I have to tell you, ladies and gentlemen, that anybody, because I don't care about get the scoop. If Ben Shapiro wanted to go down to McCallan, or if Tucker Carlson wanted to go down to McCallan, he probably will, or anywhere. Ted Nugent says
Starting point is 00:27:28 he wants to go with me down there. I'm going to take him down there. He's a fellow Texan. You'll sit there for 30 minutes and you'll see kids getting crammed in trunks. Okay. I mean, you can't swing a stick in the dark and not hit smugglers down there. There is a sense that Alex is giving off that is like, you should go. Yeah, of course. We're all going. We're all going. It's going to be a great big party. Everybody who goes down there will immediately find proof of this illegal human trafficking ring. And you need to, you know, hey, all these people, if they went, if Ben Shapiro had the nerve to do it, he could get the scoop. I don't care about getting the scoop. Everyone should go. You should go. That's a bad
Starting point is 00:28:10 thing to do. When you're escalating people's suspicion and belief that they're fighting the literal devil and all this to such a heightened point and be like, oh, hey, you all should go down there. You'll find direct evidence of all this stuff. I mean, you're asking for trouble. Yeah. I mean, I like he has every single time in the past. I don't want to like, here's the thing about, you know, you don't want to get into like slippery slope arguments with restricting speech, of course. So what I think we should do is write a very, very narrow law that puts out step by step what Alex did for pizza gate. And then it's like, you just can't do that. All of that stuff. You can't do it. And then Alex wouldn't be able to do this shit. And you know, the part about it that
Starting point is 00:28:52 always gets a little bit muddy is that like, yeah, every not every time that you behave like this, it causes a horrible outcome. Of course, but we have proof that it can and does from time to time. Yeah. And I'm not so stop doing the things that leave there. Here's why it's not a free speech argument. Are you going to or have been inspiring people to go commit terrifying acts and has have you really faced any consequences? Exactly. I would say you've been rewarded. Yes, exactly. Anyway, so Alex spends a lot of time on this episode talking about Biden trying to take the guns. Because Biden has some ideas about, you know, hey, it is a little bit terrifying the prospects of, you know, being able to get kits where you can make a gun.
Starting point is 00:29:41 And none of the parts have any kind of serial number totally completely untraceable guns. It's certainly something that in the wrong hands could lead to a lot of trouble. Yeah, also the ability to just, you know, buy guns on the Internet. I mean, they trace fucking cold medicine. Yeah. And so he has, you know, he has some ideas. I'm not the biggest expert in the world. But when I was listening to the ideas, it didn't sound like anything that was too terrifying. No, I think I will be fine. But anyway, Alex thinks that China is trying to use Biden to get the guns for a, for a specific reason. Really, the big news is the chai coms are trying to cause a civil war, knowing that this will trigger a civil war and a bloodbath for everybody, which I'm not
Starting point is 00:30:25 looking forward to, which I do not want. But nevertheless is a fact. So there you go. That's what's going on there. Everybody else to debate. Oh, he wants the same children. This doesn't make any sense. No, it's good. Now the globalist plan is to start a civil war, like at the behest of China for some reason, and that's going to, I guess, kill a lot of people. Yep. I thought their plan was soft killing everyone with vaccines and then having an orderly extermination. And if that didn't work, then their plan B was to release super bio weapons just to kill everyone off. Yeah, but that was last week. How does a civil war or world war fit into that plan exactly? Like, how is gun regulation a part of the bio weapon plan? Yeah, it would be a really dumb civil war
Starting point is 00:31:04 to have if like, while you're fighting it, half of your army is just going to drop dead from the vaccine at any moment. It seems like if the plan was these bio weapons, the globalist shouldn't care if you have guns, like you can't shoot a virus. I kept this clip in to illustrate how none of Alex's narratives mean anything. Everything is self serving and meant to escalate whatever he's decided to make his audience afraid of that day. In this case, Biden's giving this speech on gun reform ideas and thus the thing to profit off making the listener scared of his gun confiscation. That narrative doesn't really match up with the whole thing Alex has been doing with vaccine fear mongering. So you can't really say that the gun regulation is part of the whole bio weapon
Starting point is 00:31:41 thing. Thus he pretends that you know, this isn't the entire thing he's been ranting about forever. Yeah, yeah. Now it's time to be scared about war. It's war that we need to be scared about. It's the summer rage, Dan. Also, if all Alex's enemies were working for the literal devil, it seems like they wouldn't be all on such different pages. Like if the devil had this plan that they were supposed to be trying to carry out, why would China mess around with Taiwan when that could only really get in the way of following through on the larger plan? That seems really weird. And I would love Alex to explain that. Well, what it is. So it's what it is. It's a Japanese management strategy that the that the devil is using here. All right, you have many different divisions and you don't
Starting point is 00:32:20 share all the information because they're all working for the same end goal. But they've got their own strategies. That's how you create new solutions to problems, Dan. I feel like the devil were this devil to be singularly focused on one objective. Sure. I don't know if there would be a need for teams to be working across purposes. You haven't been reading Japanese management models. You do make a fair point. Yeah. So anyway, Biden wants the guns. Sure. And Trump, you know, he said that he wanted red flag laws. Right. Right. But that didn't happen. So we're good. But also that was he was being sneaky and it was different. Of course, completely different, and of course, the red flag laws, you know, Trump was like, oh, red flag means if you've been adjudicated
Starting point is 00:33:02 mentally on your schizophrenic, and you were kicked out of the Air Force was the case they brought to him. But he they never put the Air Force records in that he was dishonorably discharged in an Air Force mental institution for two years. Trump's like, yeah, that guy shouldn't have a gun. Oh, the conservatives, Trump wants to. No, no, no. Okay. Well, Trump's gone. Let's not get bad guys gone. Don't have him to kick anymore. We got Biden saying, if anybody has a concern about you, your guns are gone. You don't get them back most of the time. And you get the SWAT team raid that ensues. So civil war, civil war, civil war. Whoa. So this is how Alex wants to remember Trump's comments on red flag laws. But that's not what Trump said. This was in 2019 after the mass
Starting point is 00:33:42 shootings in Dayton and El Paso. Trump said, quote, first, we must do a better job of identifying and acting on early warning signs. I'm directing the Department of Justice to work in partnership with local state and federal agencies as well as social media companies to develop tools that can detect mass shooters before they strike. That doesn't sound like adjudicating someone as mentally ill. That seems like talking to like social media, taking the posts from social media to identify people who may be unwell and then getting their guns taken away. It's almost like Alex thinks reality is whatever fits his narrative. And at any given point in time, it's really weird. Honestly, what Trump was talking about seems way more invasive and draconian than anything that
Starting point is 00:34:21 Biden's proposing. Trump went on, quote, we must reform our mental health laws to better identify mentally disturbed individuals who may commit acts of violence and make sure those people not only get treatment, but when necessary, involuntary confinement. Seems like Alex should be against that pretty strongly. These people have not committed any crimes, but because some globalist doctor is saying that they might commit one, we should have laws that they get locked up. This is pre-crime. Trump wants to bring in the guys in the tanks from the Tom Cruise movie. Pre-cogs. It's mission. It's mission. What? Not mission impossible. Minority report. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, this is Philip K. Tickshit. They're coming for us. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:59 Trump continued, quote, we must make sure that those judged oppose a grave risk to public safety to not have access to firearms. And if they do, those firearms can be taken through rapid due process. That is why I've called for red flag laws, also known as extreme risk protection orders. Today, I'm also directing the Department of Justice to propose legislation ensuring that those who commit hate crimes and mass murders face the death penalty and that this capital punishment be delivered quickly, decisively, and without years of needless delay. Yeah. As a libertarian type and someone who's insanely anti-government, Alex should be really afraid of a president calling for expedited death sentences, especially since Alex thinks that
Starting point is 00:35:36 most people who commit mass shootings are secretly patsies. Also, that was the speech where Trump said, quote, may God bless the memory of those who perished in Toledo and may God protect them because he misread a teleprompter. Yeah. The shooting was in Dayton. Yep. Anyway, the point of this is that Alex has created an ahistorical version of Trump's response to mass shootings and his public support for red flag laws, because what Trump advocated is directly counter to a lot of what should make sense as Alex's position. So that's kind of messy. I think it's easier to hand wave it away and say the past is the past. Let's move on and think about the future. Trump isn't president anymore. We don't need to think about all the stuff he said.
Starting point is 00:36:16 I mean, even sputtered through that. Yeah. Well, we don't learn from history here. How dare any of you? Yeah, it's not deal with what was said realistically. Let's just have fun. Hey, so who do you think the world's most powerful doctor is the world's most powerful doctor? Yeah. Doom. Sure. Yeah, he has his own country. Exactly. Yeah, he's pretty powerful. What about Oz? Dr. Oz? No, I don't think he's very powerful. Dr. Phil is rich as hell. Dr. Phil is pretty powerful. But who couldn't stand up to Dr. Doom? I think you really cheated the game there. Dr. Doom is a little bit of a winner there. He has lightning powers, right? What powers does Dr. Doom have? No, the super stretch man is a doctor too. He's more powerful than Dr. Doom. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:37:00 Mr. Fantastic. Why do I call him super stretch man? I don't know. Super stretch man. This is why people think that I'm not amused by things you said. I was just laughing really hard, but silently. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Naturally. Sometimes it just doesn't play all the money. It doesn't happen. Yeah. Invisible Woman was a doctor too, right? Yeah. All of them. All the fantastic four. No, no, no. Invisible. The flame guy was Jesus. I'm not doing well today. Human torch? Yes, I understand. I'm not even a dork and I know these names. Honestly, I was going to call her Mrs. Invisible, which I recognize is not okay. Yes, exactly. Well, isn't she married to him? Yeah. I think so. Yeah. I can't remember exactly. And then the
Starting point is 00:37:45 thing wasn't a doctor. He was just a, he was like an astronaut or something. Yeah. Yeah. He was a military guy. What are we doing? I think the thing and human torch were like... This is why discord is beyond us. We're not even. Yeah. I think they were cool military guys and then Invisible Woman and Reed Richards were doctors. Yes. I think. Yeah. Yeah. Still Dr. Doom more powerful. He does have his own country and they never really put him away, you know? Anyway. My point is that if you Google it, you'll get a different answer. Okay. Well, who runs the U.N.? I tried this this morning and it works. We'll see if they've changed it. Guys, please go to Google for TV viewers. Any radio listeners can do this. Type in who is the most
Starting point is 00:38:28 powerful doctor in the world? Before you even say powerful, who is the most powerful? It says Bill Gates and they say he is the most powerful doctor. He is in charge and he will do what he will to you. So this is actually true. If you Google the words who is the world's most powerful doctor, the results do say Bill Gates. This is because the search terms identically reflect the title of a 2017 political article titled, quote, meet the world's most powerful doctor, Bill Gates. Okay. The article itself is highly critical of Gates's outsized influence on the World Health Organization, given his status as a major donor. But it's not critical in the same way that Alex might be. For instance, the article points out that quote, rather than focusing on strengthening
Starting point is 00:39:11 healthcare in poor countries, that would help in their view to contain future outbreaks like the Ebola pandemic, the agency spends a disproportionate amount of its resources on projects with a measurable outcome that Gates prefers such as the effort to eradicate polio. Anyway, the fact that this Google search result comes up, you know, it went slightly viral recently as it has in the past a couple of times. Alex probably just saw it on social media. Now he's complaining about it on his show, which is really sad. Yeah. He doesn't even read the political article because if he has, he would recognize that it actually, but it actually would be like, Oh, this is kind of critical of Gates. Yeah. That kind of doesn't work for him. Yeah. It really seems far too obvious to say
Starting point is 00:39:55 that a billionaire shouldn't have anything to do with just about any decisions regarding well, anything, but especially health in the modern world. Yeah, I think it's a complicated question. And I think that, you know, based on the fact that there are political articles like this, there are people who are in the appropriate places asking those sorts of questions and wrestling with it. Anyway, because Alex has found this Google search result that he thinks is real cool, yeah, he lets himself off the chain a little bit. Okay. There it is. Who's the most powerful doctor in the world? Ladies and gentlemen, Bill, I'm going to kill your ass, Bill Gates. Whoa. Meet the world's most powerful doctor and for four pages, it says the same thing,
Starting point is 00:40:42 because he paid in the search results to tell you, I am the big swinging Johnson. I'm going to put it in you. Whoa. Family show, man. Family show. I'm going to put it in you. The big swing and Johnson. Not something that I want repeated anywhere. No, it's not. It's not so. Also, isn't that the title is ironic or sarcastic at least? Meet the world's most powerful doctor, Bill Gates. Yes. He's not a doctor. That's the point of the title is that this is not how it's supposed to be. Yes. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. So he's taking a sarcastic headline literally. Yep. Yeah. Gotcha. And just wanted to be sure about that. Yep. He's good at this. He's great at reading comprehension is his jam. So now, now someone else is good at things
Starting point is 00:41:36 like guitar. Sure. And being a real creep. I don't know if he's good at those things. I look, I'm not a music scholar. I don't know anything about this, but Ted Nugent is on the show. Of course. I gotta say, Uncle Ted sounds like a bit more of a lunatic than usual. Okay. This is an incredible time to be alive, but I'm glad Ted Nugent is there. Imagine saying that man and a great saying that seriously. Thank you for joining us, sir. My pleasure, Alex. I'm celebrating life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. I got my priorities. I think we should quote the greatest philosopher of all times. I think we agree that was dirty Harry when he said a good man knows his limitations. So as I fight against the curse of self inflicted
Starting point is 00:42:22 apathy and Marxism running amok and whatever creature that is that pretends to be the commander in chief and all his crazy supporters, the Nugent family is living the American dream. He always sounds like he's on coke, but he claims he's 70 years sober. My, my immediate thought was he got about halfway through his sentence and I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, you just slow it down, buddy. You're, you're already going a little too fast to be taken seriously. Yeah. Yeah. So Ted Nugent seems, I mean, like the Motor City madman might be a little bit more literal. Sure. He sounds nuts and he's, well, I mean, he doesn't live in the Motor City anymore. So he does part time. Oh, fair enough. Well,
Starting point is 00:43:05 somewhere in Michigan. He is making this metaphor. It's pained. I think I think in this metaphor, old Yeller is the government. Okay. So you're, you're setting this up as we're going to take a long trip to get to the end of this metaphor. You bet. Okay. Same group suing, NRA are suing me. I mean, this is a war and let's see, you know, it's a war. Well, you know, not just spotlighting the cockroaches, I think, I think the most important lesson has been hidden from generations. And that's the lesson of old Yeller. We love dogs. When old Yeller protects us from the snake in the cougar, when old Yeller brings us the newspaper and our slippers, we give old Yeller a kiss and a hug and a biscuit. When old Yeller, the same dog we love dearly, begins foaming at the mouth.
Starting point is 00:43:56 We know what we have to do old Yeller, but we don't embrace difficult and discomforting decisions in life. I use the reference of the Germans who pretended they weren't complicit by their cult of denial of what happened during the genocide. There are Americans today that are hiding from the indicators, hiding from the evidence. So here's the answer. Number one, Alex, everybody who believes in freedom right now more than ever, you have to be a member of the National Rifle Association, gun owners of America, the Texas State Rifle Association, all your state second amendment organizations, you have to communicate with your mayor, your senator, your congressman, your governor on a weekly basis. I'm just a guitar player. Slow down.
Starting point is 00:44:38 Yeah, you are just a guitar player, sir. Wait, this is about guns? I guess. I think he's saying we need to overthrow the United States government, right? We need to put it down like old Yeller. Yeah, that's kind of his point. They want gun regulation now. Was that the lesson of old Yeller? Now, when the government just lets you have all the guns you want, you give it a pet on the head and give it a biscuit. I would like to know Ted Nugent's interpretation of Romeo and Juliet. I would like his explanation of that great piece of literature. To be made fall in love, parents are mean, kill themselves. It's all good. Yeah, that was weird. I guess he's saying that we're not happy about it, but we got to kill the
Starting point is 00:45:16 government. I guess we just have to kill the government. Strange metaphor. Interesting. So Alex has gone and done this possibly defamatory video about this Catholic charity. And if I were Ted Nugent, I might not want to sign off on that video just in case. I don't want to get ensnared. I don't want to actually be on public record being like, hey, that was an awesome thing you did. That was super cool. And I'm glad I helped playing it with you. We have to fight back on the activist level peacefully, but communicate on a regular basis. And yes, Alex, Shemaine and I with our Ted Nugent spirit of the wild showing our spirit campfire and all the different incredible communication that my
Starting point is 00:45:55 wife Shemaine accomplishes, we're coming down to the border because everybody has to know that these children are being trafficked. And when you catch a guy doing it, he plays dumb. Well, that's not dumb. That's demonic. We have to spotlight these devil cockroaches. These devil cockroaches. This is not good. This is very not good. That's not good. Yeah. It's clearly talking about Alex's video. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. There are a couple of huge problems I have with it. Number one, obviously is Ted Nugent is not allowed to say traffic head. Traffic head. He says it twice. That's not unacceptable behavior.
Starting point is 00:46:37 Unacceptable behavior. It's very weird. And I want to know the spelling of demonic because immediately following dumb, it should be D-U-M-B-O-N-I-C, right? Dumb on it. Yeah. I mean, if it's on paper, it has to be. So jumping from there, I mean, he sort of is endorsing Alex's video and we have to flush out these, these folks, these demons. Obviously. Now he's sort of saying that they need to kill people who are like the people in Alex's video. You know, we've been to Africa many times, and Shemayna's done a lot of interviews with some real heroes of law enforcement and the military who have dedicated their lives to saving these women and children that are enslaved and
Starting point is 00:47:18 trafficked, trafficked. And it's happening on a daily basis. And thank God, a big salute to you. Not just from the Nugent family, Alex, but a lot of people are watching you spotlight these devils. And we thank you for that. But more and more people have to do it. And then they have to act upon it. You can't identify a foaming at the mouth dog and then go back to your gardening. You have to deal with the rabid dog. You have to eliminate the rabid dog. And if you're not able to do it, call your wildlife control up, but call somebody. That metaphor fell apart. Yeah. I think that what we're listening to is Ted Nugent taking these sort of ideas that Alex has had about, everybody's got to go down to the border and, you know, find all this. Yeah. And he's going one
Starting point is 00:48:05 step further. It's like, you have to take action against the people who are trafficking. Right. And boy, you know, that that could get really out of hand if your standard of whose trafficking people is as low as Alex is. Yeah. This, this, this is directly inciting. See, this is really fucked up. This is why we have my new pizza gate law. If you just, if you do a pizza gate, it's against the law. He was just talking about literal dogs though. He was saying that if a dog has, oh God, what if, what if you just have like some stuff on your glasses and then you just murder a dog? Maybe you should think a little bit more. I can't stress enough how like I saw that video when it was making the rounds. I'm like, this sucks. But you know, this is Alex doing what he
Starting point is 00:48:49 does. I hope he gets sued for it. Yeah. Then I listened to a show and I'm like, it sounds like he's kind of encouraging people to go and do what he's doing. And I think that's probably bad. That seems like the kind of behavior he's done in the past. Nothing could have prepared me for Ted Nugent coming on and making this pained metaphor that is so much worse that seems to imply that what people need to do is come down there and kill people who are trying to help asylum seekers and refugees. Yeah. It's so fucked up. Yeah. I don't know if there's anything that could prepare you for a sudden appearance of Ted Nugent telling you to murder in a bad metaphor. Yeah. That's a, that's, that's something that I, that's Kool-Aid man levels of surprise. Oh no. Yeah. Now much like
Starting point is 00:49:38 the Kool-Aid man. He barges through walls. You know that we're about to get someone else barging through walls and that is Ted Nugent's son. Sure. Sure. I want to hear what Ted Nugent's son has to say. You actually do. Okay. Ted Nugent's son is there with him and Alex wants to talk to him a little bit. Sure. And here we go. And then Rocco, I know you're an articulate person in your own right. The great son of Ted Nugent. Well, what is your view on all this? Man, I'm a little bit more oriented to the metaphysical aspects of it. I feel like I got this guy on the front lines of the, the terrestrial aspect and me and some of my friends have been tuned into what you've been doing and others like David Ike. And I got more interested in like, you know, who's really behind the cabal,
Starting point is 00:50:24 extraterrestrial beings that are hijacking energy fields of the planet that are installing slaughterhouses that are, you know, the, the motive. I totally agree. When you hit the bottom of the rabbit hole, whatever it is, it's anti human. It's anti success. Yeah. Yeah. So Rocco, Ted Nugent's son is into the spiritual side of this. Another new law. It should be against the law to grow up rich. That's what that's what I heard right there. No. So I wanted to understand this a little bit more. I had no idea. I'd never heard Ted Nugent's son. I've never, and I was like, Oh, this is interesting. It was no. It was about, there was a cartoon. It was modern life, something. Oh, yeah, that's fun. Thank you. So this guy's modern life apparently consists of putting out YouTube videos
Starting point is 00:51:12 where he's driving. You know, you got the camera on you while you're driving. Oh, no, he's doing those like down for this. This is, this was terrifying. Okay. Hello, Earth. And anyone else who may be tuning in. The download to be shared today in this moment. Wow. The highway is being driven on. Is a message that just came through the reference point many know as Archangel Michael. And my relationship with Archangel Michael has been one of, he's almost been like the older brother that, that you didn't really know because like you were really young when he was at home. And then he left for like the military or something.
Starting point is 00:52:13 And then you like grew up and then he came back and he's all like stern and transformed. And then he leaves and never comes again. And so he's like this image in your mind of like discipline and yeah, like little brother, like the big brother, he's the bigger brother that holds you accountable to your highest potential. And he has this sword, at least in my interface with him. He has a sword that he carries around with him. It's like a sword of light. And it seems to, it seems to also be a sword of the divine masculine personified in, in a device in, in a moment as a sword. So it's a dick. Is he saying, I think he's saying it's sword's a dick. Yeah, I believe he's saying that the Archangel Michael has a lightsaber shaped like a penis is essentially
Starting point is 00:53:07 what I'm hearing. Yeah. So Ted Dugin's son puts out videos where he rambles about how he talks to angels. Yeah. Yeah. Somebody should take away his license. Cool. Now, okay. So I was watching a few of these and you know, there's just, of course you are, there's just a bit of like, you know, sort of that spirituality that is kind of untethered and a little bit sure, sure. Project Camelotty. Yeah. Yeah. In many ways. Well, he's talking about the Archangel Michael is that older brother who went away and joined the military and then came back to you and also has a giant lightsaber sword that looks like a dick. And he gave him a download and download a spoiler alert is the greatest FOMO, you know, the fear of missing out. No, the greatest. No, no, you do not. No,
Starting point is 00:53:50 you do not continue sir. Sir. Sir. The greatest FOMO is missing out on what you could have been if you didn't get your shit together earlier. I really, really, really need to throw a thing. Yeah. Archangel Michael coming down with his sword to blow minds. So now I was thinking like, okay, I could play some more things from these videos that are just kind of silly. Yeah. But honestly, like, I don't know that just kind of that kind of content is the kind of stuff that I'm like, I got to go. Yeah, I got to get away from this. Yeah. And I figured there's something better I could tell you and that is the Ted Nugent son is also a rapper. Oh no. Oh God. Don't do this to me. No. No.
Starting point is 00:54:57 I had to walk away. I had to talk to me. I had lost my faith. I had lost myself. I had lost my health. And windows. Yeah, it's basically that. I, um, yeah, I found that it was a little bit. I mean, it makes a compelling argument for there being such a thing as too much auto tune. Yeah. Yeah. That's, that's definitely the man. How much would it suck to not even suck as much as Chet Hanks, you know, or just suck more than Chet Hanks like that's bad. I feel really bad because I don't want to like mock someone's creative outlet. Sure. I think that's bad, but also I want to mock rich kids out creative output. I'm fine with that. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think that this is not quality music.
Starting point is 00:55:48 Yeah. And I also think it's funny that it's Ted Nugent's son. You're not even the best worst son. That's the worst part about it. Oh man. Jesus. Anyway, this has been a get to know Rocco and his modern life. Yes. Yep. And now we move on. Now we would like to unknown. Yeah. So they leave the, the Nugent family leaves. Oh, also just remember that Ted Nugent's wife is a really huge QAnon supporter. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Do an argument about it with Alex. Of course. Of course. Couple months back. Naturally. Good family. Yeah. So they leave and Alex lights a literal candle, but maybe it's also a metaphor. I'm being honest with listeners. I know the metaphysical is real. I know God's real. I know
Starting point is 00:56:35 the spirit's like a fire and you can't just keep that fire under yourself. You got to share with other people like this candle. I'm lighting here in studio with Ted Nugent right now on TV and radio with a simulcasting. They want to put America's flame out. They want to put a republic's flame out, but they can't do it if we continue to share. But if they're able to demoralize us and make us be cowards and make us be fearful, they can put that flame out, but you're aware of them trying it. They don't have the power to do that anymore. Alex is becoming more and more of a prop comic. Yeah. Yeah. So he's doing like one of those Christmas candles where you only burn it for the
Starting point is 00:57:15 light. You know, it's like red, green, red, green, red, green and every day before Christmas, you burn the red one off and then you turn it out and then you burn the green one off, but it's for the end of the republic. Something like that. Okay. Yeah. I just like, you know, when he had that skull and the goblet or whatever, people will think, what does this mean? And I'm asking you, what does this mean? I am going to light this candle because I want to talk about the metaphor of a candle, but I also want you to be able to see it. I just, because there's a moment before this where he screamed at some 18 year old, get me a candle. That's the problem here. I would say there's a pretty good chance. So Alex is not really covered a lot of news,
Starting point is 00:58:00 but he has a lot of articles in a stack, but who cares? Well, they're tweaking. I could spend an hour on each one of these articles and discover every little piece of it and talk about how it works and talk about how it's a deployment. But at the end of the day, you get caught up in making it your God by giving it all your attention. Just know this, whatever comes out of these people's mouths is meant to kill your ass. Oh, okay. Wow. Okay. We can just make that decision. Don't I get it? Yeah. What you need to know is that I need you emotionally aroused at all times, but if you learn anything, that will stop. I don't think that there's any better encapsulation of
Starting point is 00:58:44 Alex Jones's sort of style than that, that I could spend an hour on this and all the information, all the, all the minutia, get really into the weeds on this. Well, he's a policy walker as we know. Yeah. You know, we could really get into this, but just know that whatever they're saying, they're trying to kill you. So really, there's no point for me to have any of this in front of me. So instead of getting into the nitty gritty, be in a policy walk, which you could do. Oh, no, of course, you just assume that they're just trying to kill you. Yeah. Instead of getting into the weeds and really figuring this out, he decides to spend his time doing the big work. And that, of course, means complaining about Saturday Night Live. We never heard it. I don't think you'll find
Starting point is 00:59:26 it, but it's, it's the, it's the Saturday Night Live. But they're like coming up on Saturday Night Live, black people won't take the vaccine. So they have a black guy with a British accent like he's smart, but other black people aren't. They don't British accents. Pull up. It's a pull up. A British got an engine on fire. Really going. I'll give you black people barbecue and all and then and watermelon or whatever. If you take the shot and the black guy has like a classic Southern voice, like that's dumb. You are no selling selling burgers. And it's literally them characters making fun of black people with a black guy with a British
Starting point is 01:00:09 accent being racist to them because of their accent from where they are saying they're fighting racism and then it's on CNN. I mean, I can't. These people piss me off, man, and it's constant. What? Okay. So that one, did you see that SNL sketch? I saw the first little bit of it. Yeah, I got it. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you get it. It's not hard to get. I think that there are some people who took a umbrage with it and I say Huzzah rightfully. So that was probably a poorly conceived sketch. I think that there are people did not enjoy it and you can find articles in all sorts of media expressing that sentiment. Yeah, that it was maybe poorly constructed and conceived. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That said, Alex's point about it is outrageous. I mean, I think he was trying to say
Starting point is 01:01:02 that it was a racist sketch, but he did so by being more racist towards. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The person who's hosting Daniel Kahlua Kahlua. I believe he is British. Yes, but he's not doing a British accent in that sketch. No, he's not. No, specifically, he's not doing a British accent, despite having one. And I think that what happened is that Alex just saw like a outrage compilation of like some of his jokes from the monologue right where he's speaking in his British accent. So he knows that the guy is British and he doesn't know that the guy is British and he assumes that that carries over to the sketch as well. Well, he doesn't understand how the structure of Saturday Night Live works. No, absolutely not. But yeah, so if you haven't
Starting point is 01:01:47 seen the sketch, the idea was that there's this guy who is a doctor and his family won't take the vaccine. Right. And so he's having a game show to get them to take the vaccine and he keeps offering money for the correct answer, which is yes, I will get the vaccine. Yes. And so one of his family members played by Kenan. He said he asked what he would do with the money if he won. Sure. And he says, I'll roll up some joints. There are smokes. We sure, sure, get a big barbecue block party, go and get a new grill or whatever. And that Alex has extrapolated out into being like trying to entice black people with barbecue and watermelon. Right. Right. He has added a even more racist part. That's what I was saying. He didn't need to add the more racist part. No. And SNL was,
Starting point is 01:02:37 you know, like you get it because they were creating that caricature that they love to do on Celebrity Jeopardy. But what actually happened is they relied on stereotypes to make fun of. Yeah. So I think that Alex thinks that because this sketch is clunky and possibly somewhat offensive. Yeah. It gives him carte blanche to be even more racist. I give you the barbecue you take it. No. No. You imagine I had a show. No. And I got up there and I went, I give you black people some barbecue. In fact, queue that up again. This is what I'm talking about. It is the pit. Everything they say we are is them. What about fentanyl the dragon? I was going to say also it kind of sounded like he slipped into fentanyl the dragon there. He doesn't have a lot of rays.
Starting point is 01:03:29 He's trying to do a racist black person accident. Accent. And then he slipped into a racist Chinese accent. So that's great. He is no Caliendo. No. No. No. He is. He is not rich little. No. No. So Alex tries to play the clip of it and he fails. Yeah. Here it is. Let's queue it up. Let's queue it up. In fact, if you have the audio ready, you have the audio ready? You guys are going to pull it up really quick and great. They have it. Okay. Here it is. Watch this for yourself. It's okay. Our computers. Hey, I only have like $100,000 computer in there. It's not the cruise fault. The $100,000 computer messes up about 1% of the time. The million dollar computer hardly ever messes up. So I can't afford the million dollar switcher. So I just locked up on
Starting point is 01:04:15 it. But whenever it boots back up, we'll play it for you. What? You got to boot back up? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know what? You got to restart it. I mean, look, it's a million dollar machine, but it still runs on Windows 95. This is the $100,000 when you can't afford the million. That one doesn't even run on Windows 95. That guy's running DOS prompts. I wonder if, like, what actually happened was that there was like a producer in his ear during that long silence that was like, Hey, those voices that you're doing and the way you're characterizing the sketch, if you play the sketch, this is not going to go well. You're going to be shown to be wrong. You're a racist. Yeah. I wonder if that's what happened. It would make sense. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:56 Based on the incredibly long pause. And then eventually they do play what I think is the outrage compilation that he's on the only thing that he's aware of, right, which is the clips of the monologue and then a short clip of that. Right. And then he's just written a story about it in his head that is more racist than the original wild wildly racist. Yeah. So at this point, Alex has a reporter named Sheila Gun read on his show. She is a reporter with rebel media. Sure. Sure. Trustworthy. Great. Yeah. Yeah. And she's on to talk about a certain church in Canada that is under attack. Uh oh. Well, thanks for having me, Alex. And thanks so much for your ongoing interest in this story. It's truly an international story, despite with the mainstream
Starting point is 01:05:42 media in my home province would have you believe this church has been the flashpoint for the fight for religious freedom in Canada during the pandemic. The pastor there, Pastor James Coates was arrested and incarcerated for 35 days in a maximum security provincial facility for refusing to limit his congregation to 15% of fire code capacity as per the public health orders here in Alberta. He refused to comply. He said it violated his religious freedom. So he was taken into custody. He's been released now, but the crackdown on his church has not stopped. So this is the grace life church in Alberta. Mm hmm. And like, uh, like Sheila was saying, the pastor of this church, James Coates was arrested in February after repeated breaches
Starting point is 01:06:31 of COVID safety measures. Yeah. He was given multiple opportunities and warnings to follow the rules and he refused to do so. So he got arrested and then released on the condition that he stopped breaking the rules, which he immediately proceeded to break again. Literally everybody involved was like, dude, we don't want to do this. You don't want to do that. Well, obviously you want to turn yourself into a fucking martyr. So in response to his trouble, a group of 28 community leaders from various religious backgrounds released a statement that quote, stress the need to prioritize the wellbeing of all members of society over individual needs during the pandemic and to follow the directives of public health officers
Starting point is 01:07:07 and the government. Someone acting Christ like kill them. Just this week, the Alberta Health Service shut down the church by putting fences up around it, quote, until the church can demonstrate the ability to comply with Alberta's chief medical officer of health's restrictions. Do you hear what they said? They put your time out. If they put you in time out until you can eat your goddamn vegetables, you don't get to go to church. Yeah. You can't use the phone until you can learn to not prank call people or whatever. I mean, it's insane. Yep. I think closing the church is kind of murky territory, honestly. And I'm not sure how I would proceed if I were in charge there, but this is Canada. If the local folk there in Alberta are terribly opposed to this closure,
Starting point is 01:07:50 then they can work on that with the local government. But from everything I've seen, pretty much everybody outside the church itself seems fine with the fact that they, you know, if you're not going to follow the restrictions, they're not even, the restrictions are 15% capacity. It's not even closing the church. You don't even have to close the church. Yeah. No, just fucking live stream it. Dude, we don't want to put you in jail. It would be stupid. This is stupid. You're a child ways to work this out in ways that work for everybody. Please, just go away. Anyway, there's a 15% capacity that he's supposed to follow, but not everybody has to follow that 1515% of fire code capacity, but the Walmart up the road, but the Costco
Starting point is 01:08:32 up the road, they can operate at 30% of fire code capacity. So there's no way it knows if you're going to Walmart or if you're going to praise God. This is embarrassing pretending to not understand the different capacities for different things. No, get the fuck out. Like, I would totally bet that Walmart would have a 15% capacity order if it were a place where people congregated for long periods of time, sat in place and sang so stupid. The things you do at Walmart while you're wearing a mask, which they didn't do at this church. Oh, that was really surprising to me. I assume that they all still wore masks. No, no, that's you know, you're required to wear a mask to enter the Walmart and you walk around and leave. Yeah. That's why maybe you
Starting point is 01:09:16 could have 30% capacity there safely as opposed to a building where everyone sits and sings. Yeah, that is like, listen, I know the word is supposed to be mainly geometry based, but you are being obtuse. That is ridiculous. Yeah. So Alex gets to talking about his spars conspiracy a little bit. Sure. And I thought he was kind of done with Sheila in the church. Yeah, he is not. Oh, well. But he does say this and I think it's silly. Emergency Saturday broadcast World Shocked by Spars 2025 2028 document 2 million 700 or 2 million 73,000 views. Well, that sounds great at Band-Aid video. It needs 100 billion views. We beat these people. It's all but 2 million is a good start. But I'm not doing this and putting my life on the line and flying
Starting point is 01:10:12 a helicopter right on the Mexican border where they shoot at helicopters and doing all this to like lose. Yeah, I think that that's really illustrative too. It's like Alex's gauge of being able to beat the globalists has to do with his metrics. They are traffic related. We will win if we get 100 million like that. You won't a globalist just watching the view. Oh, shit. He's at 99 million 999,998. If he gets two more, we lose sir. Shut down the internet down. Yeah. So I thought it was a little bit irresponsible that Alex is, you know, largely at least subtly, maybe not so subtly, encouraging people to go down to the border and behave as he did. Yeah. Yeah, just to cost people trying to help. I think that's a humanity is generally
Starting point is 01:11:06 widely recognized to have evolved society by killing people trying to help. And I think that the only effect that that could possibly have is escalating a situation, raising the temperature beyond the point where it's easily handled by responsible people. This is not the only instance of him doing this on this show. This should be the Christian Woodstock. Everyone in Canada that can get there, I'd say the US border is so controlled, but you're a little alien. Everyone should go there, bring pizzas, bring barbecues, bring, I think of 20,000 people show up. It will turn the tide against this tyranny. Don't you agree? Everyone should come there. Tell us where it is. So that church is just west of the capital city
Starting point is 01:11:46 of Edmonton, Alberta. It's really, you know, just a couple of miles outside of the city limits. It's very easy to get to. And, you know, there's a public road right there. You can get there and they must go now. What is the name? What is the address? Everyone must go now. It's Grace Life Church. So yeah, everyone, everyone's got to go. Everyone's got to go to this church. It should be the Christian Woodstock. So that means jars of clay will be performing. Sure. DC Talk is going to reunite. Oh, it's about time. It's about time. Red Hot Chili Peppers is going to play with just the socks on. Ted Nugent's son is going to do this. Yeah. This seems irresponsible. Yeah. And it gets kind of worse. Oh, of course.
Starting point is 01:12:33 It's 51520 or 51529 A Range Road 262 Spruce Grove, AB. Is that right? Yes. All right. So here's the deal. Instead of being like, and I'm not putting you down because you're just like me, you're like, oh, thanks for carrying that. They've put a fence up and the rest of the preacher. Thanks for caring. We're under attack. Okay. You're under attack. So are we all of us need to go there? If you're in Canada or if you're near the border, you get in legally, go there peacefully, give aid and comfort to Christians under CHICOM governor attack the CHICOM agent. I just showed you him pledging allegiance is easy paying. Trudeau, everyone should go there. So they're scared, aren't they? Trudeau did no such thing.
Starting point is 01:13:20 No, he did not. Yeah. So this is irresponsible and certainly hope that nothing ends up happening there that Alex might look bad in. Yeah. In hindsight, giving the address out and soliciting and inciting people to go because the church is under attack by the communist Chinese and Justin Trudeau fucked up. Yeah. There's no other way for that to like it goes two ways. It goes with a bunch of people showing up and being like, oh, shit, this was dumb, or a bunch of people showing up and getting whipped into a mob and like, well, let's go down two miles and start wars, you know, like that kind of thing. And when you think you're fighting the fucking literal devil, it seems like the latter is more likely. Yeah. Yeah. So I don't know. I don't think this is good.
Starting point is 01:14:05 And I mean, it's obviously that they are fighting the devil. Alex, I've never ever seen overt Satanism in real life before. You told me one of them said Satan is good. Tell people about that. I've never seen overt Satanism like that. As you and I both know that the enemy works through all kinds of people, but this person drove by in a pickup truck, screamed at women and children whose church they're looking at being locked up. So they're distraught. And this guy screams at them that he's happy that their church is being closed. And then he yells at other people and he says to them, even the church of Satan follows masking laws. And that's why you should do as a Christian. If you're telling me that Satan likes it, I'm more inclined to not do it. But
Starting point is 01:14:58 that's the level of public discourse here. Yeah. Some guy in a truck said that we're Satanists and even we wear masks. That's the level of overt Satanism that she's. Man, this is the weakest of teas. This is weak tea. Because I would even have bought it if she was just like, he screamed out the window, I love Satan. Because then it's like, yeah, of course you say that shit. They're a bunch of assholes. She doesn't seem to be as willing to let it fly as Alex. No clue. He's just like, Hey, guys, ostensibly, your most evil worshipers in the world are still concerned with public health and our fellow man than you. Satanists don't want people to die of disease. Do you not? Do you not understand where you are in this situation? Yeah, that seems to be
Starting point is 01:15:50 with this guy, this Satanist, alleged Satanist. You might have been just fucking around. Yeah, that sounds more like that. Anyway, some guy yelled from the truck and all this is going on. And so Alex encourages something, man, he should be careful with his language. Well, I'm telling my listeners, I'm telling them, if you live in Canada, whether you're 500 miles away or 20, you must go there, bring some muffins, bring some food, support these great people. Because the system has drawn the line here. The enemy has drawn a line at your church. The enemy's drawn a line and said, and so they've chosen this as their, as their Stalingrad. And I think we should make this their Stalingrad. Oh boy. Who's chosen this as their Stalingrad?
Starting point is 01:16:33 Nobody's chosen this as a Stalingrad. This is way below the level of Stalingrad. You bet. Also, not for nothing. The Soviet Union won that battle. Well, the communists. So Alex, you might want a better metaphor. Also, Stalingrad was incredibly violent. I don't know if Alex wants to evoke that kind. I mean, obviously he does, but it doesn't seem responsible to evoke that kind of imagery surrounding what he's trying to incite people to go be a part of. Yeah, I'm going to be, I'm going to be honest here. Okay. Here's what I'm putting together on this very episode. He said literally like everything they're doing, everything they say we're doing is what they're doing. Right. Right. Now, I would say that that is
Starting point is 01:17:20 revelatory about what he's doing. And I'm going to say that he worship Satan. Okay. Because this is the behavior of someone who worships Satan. That was just when he was younger. I think he, I don't think he stopped. That's a long term theory of yours. I understand that. So look, dude, I think that this episode is really fucked up. There's multiple incitements towards listeners going to places that Alex seems to want to get out of hand. Yeah. Even if I was the shithead pastor of that church, I would be like, Alex, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, we want that. We want support, but you're the, this is your, your notes, your bad support. And it really honestly, you know, Sheila wants to bring up that
Starting point is 01:18:09 this could all be solved if all the pastors in the area weren't against this guy. It's very disappointing to see some of the other pastors in the area say, well, what, why isn't this church making the same sacrifices that I am? Oh, they make it a sacrifice to not to be shut down. They make it a sacrifice to traffic kids. They make it a sacrifice to submit. Those aren't real churches and God knows it. Oh boy. These other pastors, I mean, if they can, these are pastors, these are world council of churches, Rockefeller pimps. So this is a point of the episode where I was sort of lost in thought. And I started to think,
Starting point is 01:18:51 I have an interesting thought experiment. Maybe it's not a thought experiment. Sure. Question, rhetorical question. Sure, sure. Do you think that Alex Jones could name a living member of the Rockefeller family? Absolutely not. Absolutely not. 0% chance. I don't think he could. No. I do like that this, this also plays into what should be very obvious to anybody is if it weren't for immigration and racism, Christians would be murdering each other left and right.
Starting point is 01:19:21 They hate each other. They don't believe the same shit. They're all nonsense. Well, I mean, like there are the sort of, you know, with this letter of the 28 religious leaders in Alberta, they were all like, Hey, come on, let's take this seriously. Do you know what was in that letter? Even the church of Satan is willing to. That letter was delivered from a truck. From a truck, yes. Yeah, it's rare that you get, you know, the Christian, Muslim, Jewish, Buddhist communities walking arm in arm with Satan.
Starting point is 01:19:56 Yes, exactly. Yep. But this church is enough of a pain in the ass. Yeah. Oh my God, guys. They're giving us a bad name. Alex is trying to get people to go to this church and have it be their stalling grad. Someone's stalling grad. Anybody's stalling grad and in order for this to sound better,
Starting point is 01:20:18 he wants Sheila to do it. She wants, he wants her to tell everybody to go there. Yeah, because naturally, then he could be like, ah, she did it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Implicate somebody else in your crime. She's not as into it as Alex hopes. I feel it. I see it. I think it'll be 5000 people tomorrow at 10,000 this weekend.
Starting point is 01:20:38 I think they've jumped the shark call. You need to do it. Beautiful, beautiful. So tell my God and read. Come peacefully now. Call them. Tell them. If people are going to come to support grace life, they welcome the support.
Starting point is 01:20:52 But if you're coming, come peacefully and come respectfully, but they would appreciate your support. They need it now more than ever. They've their church has been seized by the state. They need all this. Obviously we want to be peaceful, but we need you to just then call them. Say, help us call them. Well, I don't want to speak for the church, Alex.
Starting point is 01:21:13 I really don't want to just as a Canadian as a human. I'm just saying that everyone needs to hear you call for that. I'm calling for it. We call for people to stand up for religious freedom. Absolutely. I'll go that far. Yeah, I'll support religious freedom. Is this what like journalists do?
Starting point is 01:21:31 I guess. Is this what Alex thinks reporters do? They come on shows and try and demand murders. I mean, if she's supposed to be covering this story, it doesn't make sense for the interview to end with him begging her to call people to come to the this church. Yeah, that's weird. Yeah, that's bad.
Starting point is 01:21:53 Yeah, this isn't any kind of reporting. Says at best activism and at worst and in reality, incitement. Yeah. This episode is nuts. Sheila, you're a bad person. I mean, I think she's I don't know enough about her to really have a full picture. But I think based on her behavior, I think she's trying to stay a little more neutral
Starting point is 01:22:18 than Alex wants her to be. I do. I do agree with you there. She doesn't understand that Alex is like she's talking to a guy who's a parody version. Yeah. Of right wing media outlet. Oh boy. She's used to, you know, as a pretend seriousness and at least like I don't
Starting point is 01:22:37 necessarily want to get sued. Sure. Sure. 01:22:40,080 --> 01:22:40,480 Sure. Alex doesn't seem to care. I'm behaving in ways where I clearly want people to fucking sue me. I fear consequences and Alex apparently doesn't.
Starting point is 01:22:51 Yeah. In Canada, we might get consequences in America. Alex receives none. Alex has learned over the course of his career not to respect the idea of chickens coming along. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's why he baves the way he does. Yeah, pretty much.
Starting point is 01:23:06 I listened to this episode and I was blown away by like, okay, I thought that video was bad and I thought I still think it's bad. I think it's terrible. I think it's legally actionable and, you know, whatever. Yeah. I didn't expect for the episode afterwards to be worse. Yeah, I was surprised. I thought we were going to have a little fun clowning on that dumb video.
Starting point is 01:23:26 I hadn't seen it. So I was, you know, I was waiting for the show, obviously. And there's not much to see. Instead, we got a concentrated bullion cube of racism and incitement to violence. Yeah, yeah. And I really, I mean, I mean this. I hope that nothing happens. Yeah, me too.
Starting point is 01:23:48 His behavior in the past has led to people going and fucking with people and victimizing people in ways that are irresponsible and terrible. And for him to have two targets of like, everyone's got to go to these places. Yeah. In one day is really, really scary, what it could portent. No, admittedly, it could lead to nothing, but the danger is there. And that is, I just don't think it's acceptable to act this way. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:16 I mean, see, can you see in a courtroom like, uh, uh, your honor, in this trial, we aim to prove that Alex Jones did another pizza gate. So, uh, if we prove that, then he goes away forever, right? That's good. I don't know. I don't know. I'm a bad prosecutor. Yeah, certainly.
Starting point is 01:24:34 I don't know how you do that in court, but like just for the sake of like a podcast that explores these things, I think you can definitely say he's behaving in exactly the same ways as he has when things have gone bad. Yeah, it's bad. Not good. We should learn from the things that have already happened. I think that would be wise. Yep.
Starting point is 01:24:54 Yeah. So fingers crossed, things work out okay. And I guess we'll find out on our next episode. I hope calling on people to not go to the border or that church. I strongly call on everyone to not do either of those things. Yeah. I'm in favor of people. Stay home.
Starting point is 01:25:14 Yeah. Have a nice little cocktail. Yeah. Isn't that better than going to the border or a weird church in Canada? Yep. I think so. And we will be back, but until then, Jordan, we have a website. We do.
Starting point is 01:25:25 It's knowledgefight.com. Oh, wait, I forgot also. What's that? Like I said, we're gonna, our Monday episode will be on Wednesday. It'll be on Wednesday. Yes. But if I'm feeling better, I might put out a little fun thing on Monday. We'll see.
Starting point is 01:25:38 We'll see. Also, we're going to be out on Twitter. We are on Twitter. It's that knowledgefight. Go to Matt Jordan. We're also on Facebook. We are on Facebook. If you would like to download the show,
Starting point is 01:25:47 and if you could, please find a local charity or bail fund in your area to help out people doing God's work. Yep. We'll be back. But until then, I'm Nio and Leo. I'm DZX Clark. I'm Daryl Rundis. So what do you think about them apples?
Starting point is 01:25:59 Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. So, Alex, I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you.

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