Knowledge Fight - #549: April 13-14, 2021

Episode Date: April 16, 2021

Today, Dan and Jordan check in to see how Alex Jones is dealing with the recent arrest of one of his cameraman who joined in the capitol storming on Jan. 6.  Also, one of Alex's lawyers has decided to start a new career in confusing, hacky stand-up.

I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys knowledge fight. Dan and Jordan, knowledge fight. I need money. Andy and Kansas, stop it. Andy and Kansas, it's time to pray. Andy and Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding. Hello, I'm a huge fan. I love your work. Knowledge fight. Knowledge fight. I love you. Hey, everybody, welcome back knowledge fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're gonna do it. It's like sit around drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Oh, indeed we are. Damn. Jordan. Jordan. Quick question for you. What's up? What's your bright spot today? My bright spot today is a little slice of life moment. A little slice of life. Yes, a little

moment. Just laying in bed, hanging out. Celine, the cat comes over, stares at me while I'm laying there. What are you doing? What are you doing, cat? You weirdo? Yeah. And then she just she's standing there. And then it just with no warning, plops over on her side. Just falls over like a horse that was tranquilized. Yes, just goes the funk. Yeah. Okay. Immediately dead weight is the thing. It happens from time to time, but I really, I really enjoyed it last night. And it is like how that battery goes out where it's not it's like a sustained and then boat. It's just off. Yeah. Yeah. She'll lay there for like maybe five minutes and then get bored and go lay somewhere. Sure. Yeah. That funk moment is really nice. It's beautiful. I enjoy that. It's a lovely

slice of life, Dan. Thank you. My bright spot is two fold. One Brockhampton has a new album out. It's great. Great. And two, I just found out that there's this show that I've never heard of that ran for like six some odd seasons or something like that called Superstore. And it's actually really good. It's kind of about Walmart. It's like a I was surprised to see how much labor issues were like you'd never heard of that. I'd never heard of that show before. I swear to you. I've never heard of it all over the place. Really? Where? Where was it all over? It was probably on Network TV. Of course, the one place that I would never go. Yeah. Oh, that's a dumb. So I just don't have cable. I don't have. I'm not going to cut the cord. Sure. I cut it. But even if

someone had come up to you and been like, Hey, there's this show on basic cable that is so good. You got to check it out. You've been like, Oh, fuck yourself. I'm going to watch Parkson Reck was I'm going to watch artistic prestige television. No, the first run of Full House was on basic cable. These are shows that everyone enjoys. Well, you in 30 years, you have two examples. Yes, exactly. Congratulations. You got it. Well, I'm glad you're enjoying Superstore. It's great. Great. Yeah. So Jordan, today we have an interesting episode to go over. We're in the present day because chaos is afoot. Yes, naturally. And we'll get into some of that chaos here in a moment before we do. Let's take a little moment to christen some new wonks. Oh, that's great.

So first. Dr. Destriral doum, thank you so much. You're now policy wank. I'm a policy, wank. Thank you, Dr. Destructo Dome. Next. I'm moving to Canada and changing my name to Joe Kickass. Thank you so much. You are now policy walk. I'm a policy wank. Thank you very much, future Joe Kickass. Thank you. Next, Gwendoline. Thank you so much. You are now a policy wank. I'm a policy, wank. Thanks. Gwendoline, the sheep mafia. Thank you so much. You are now a policy wank. I'm a policy, wank all. Thank you very much, Sheep mafia. Thank you. And then I got a couple of technocrats shout outs to give out today. First, WTF is an NFT. I'm also

confused. Sure. That's totally right. You're now a technocrat and backyard widow farm. Thank you so much. You are also a technocrat. I'm a policy wank. Crikey, mate. That's fantastic. Have yourself a brew. How's your 401k doing, bro? We got to go full tilt buggy on this Watson. Alright, let's just get down to business. We ain't making that money off that heroin. Why are you pimp so good? My neck is freakishly large. I declare info war on you. Thank you so much. Thank you very much to the both of you. I don't know if you know this, but there's two April birthdays. It's me and Dr. Gums. Yes, correct. And also who could forget about Kelly Clarkson, Cedric. No, of course, nobody could forget about those two. Well, we have one more to add to the list. Okay. Actually, we missed

this email that was sent in and I missed it and I apologize for Rex. Happy birthday. Happy birthday. Welcome to the pantheon of April birthdays. Along with myself, Dr. Gums, Kelly Clarkson, Cedric, the entertainer and Mandy Moore and a couple others. I can't remember other celebs. Oh, Tyson Ritter. Oh, of all American region. Naturally. Everybody remembers his birthday. Yep. Move along. Memorated by I'm sorry. I just I haven't. I've heard very little what you said because I can't get past backyard widow farm. That sounds like murder, right? I don't know. I think it's a farm. I like to believe it's a farm, maybe run by widows. That sounds nice. That sounds nice. I don't know. You could put it put an ominous or benign spin on it, whatever, however

you want to play it. I guess I have a bad temperament because I went ominous first. Yes. Yeah. So Jordan, we return today to the present day of Alex Jones's content. He's deep in rambling about the border and about that spars document from Johns Hopkins that apparently is a smoking gun, sure, which is nothing of the sort. Right. I was really worried that we would get into today's content and, you know, we'd start, you know, looking at this stuff back in the present. It'll be so boring and repetitive. Like these, these, a lot of these issues are things that we've done at least three or four laps with Alex on before. A lot of recycled narratives, just about fairly present issues. The words ad nauseam come to mind. Yes. Or as Alex would say, at

nauseam, but then Jordan. Yes, sir. On Tuesday evening, at the end of the war room, Alex called into his own show from home. I guess the war room isn't his show, but whatever the case, he owns all shows. We got big breaking news. Uh oh. All right. They're bringing us in with their classic limbo intro music. Alex Jones here, ladies and gentlemen on this 13th day on this Tuesday transmission, we were going to have a special report shot by now, but I ended up going too long. I wasn't like a two minute quick video, but I ended up doing like 10 minutes. So that'll be up in about 45 minutes or so at info wars.com or news wars.com. So the breaking news is that Alex rambled too long in a special report that he shot about this breaking news. So the well produced

version of it isn't going to come out for like 45 minutes or so. And Alex is just going to have to come in and do it on the phone. All right. Breaking news. I'm struggling here. If I understand correctly, Alex is going to give us a thing that he already knew in the past. Yeah, but he talked about it. He meant to talk about it for two minutes. Sure. So they could have a special report here on the show, but it's too long. Right. You rambled too long. So then an hour later, you're going to see a better version of what he's going to do for you now. Exactly. And it's so important that you cannot possibly wait one more hour. No, we have to get into live programming. This is gotta be done. We gotta break in. This is info wars. God damn it. We can't wait another

45 minutes for this information. I feel like if it was as important as he thinks he could have kept it tight, he could have. So he can get this special report together or he could have just spent two minutes on it in the middle of his rambles. Also great that Rush has been dead for two months and Alex is already stealing his aesthetics. I think it's a good idea stealing his intro music. Steal it up. Steal it up. I do like that. That clearly wasn't Alex's choice, though, because he calls it out. That's true. He's like, Oh, coming in was a rush. Yeah, that's true. Someone else did that and he kind of ruined the illusion that they weren't stealing. There is a secret hero on the staff. I swear the more music we hear at the right time,

the more I'm like, somebody is watching us. So, you know, he rambled too long in that special report that you tried to shoot, but we don't really know what this news is that's so important. Sure. So let's, let's see if he gets to it. What's we got? A lot of this we knew was coming. But now here it is. Sam Montoya worked for us about three years. He's a, he's a great one. My daughter just came in here. Hello, honey. I love you. He just, he just came in breaking news. My daughter just came running in here. We can't wait an hour. This has to happen right now. Sorry. Long story short, we were going to air in this segment. This report, but it's not ready yet. It'll be a band on video info, worse.com and news,

worse.com here in 30 minutes, 45 minutes or so. Okay. So I guess the news so far is that Sam Montoya is a really good guy. He's a great guy. And that Alex, he's trying to innovate in ways he can make his show impressively unprofessional. It's kind of incredible. It really is. It really is. So far we have spent far more time talking about his daughters than we have the breaking news that he had to call in. We got breaking news. I talked too long about it in the special report in order to fit it into here. So I'm going to talk about it now. Yeah. Yeah. This is, this is good. This is good stuff. Oh man. Almost a parody. So, uh, you know, like there is a story here. Sure. So let's see if we can get to it. What do we got? But we knew this was coming and I've talked to a

lot of smart folks and they concur with my analysis. Sam Montoya, he is a great guy and he went to the Capitol that day. He was separate from our main crew because he ended up, we didn't take him on the trip of us. We wanted to go ahead and fill in his own. So he went up there to the January 6th event and then he ended up going to the Capitol once it was open and once I guess the police wave you'd met as we told me and he got the tragic footage of, uh, and was the first person to put it out of Ashley Babbitt being executed. By the way, we don't know the name of the police officer still had executed her, but we do know the name of the police officer that just shot this guy at traffic stop in Minnesota during all the riots. So just an example,

about the feds in the media are all going along with this to demonize local police for a domestic takeover. This is a very, very systematic criminal operation. So here's the deal. The story that Alex is trying not to cover is that Sam, his cameraman, got arrested and charged for his actions on January 6th at the Capitol. Sure. Alex doesn't want to just say that. So instead, here he is just reiterating that Sam's a good guy and he's trying to come up with every possible dodge he can think of in order to not deal with the reality here. That clip was less than a minute and here are a list of the qualifiers that Alex is trying to bake into this story before even telling the audience what has happened.

Give me a list. One, Sam is a good guy. He's a good guy. Two, Sam was separate from Alex's main crew. Never heard of that guy. Three, Sam went into the Capitol on his own. I swear to you, this man, I've never seen him before in my life. Four, Sam only went into the Capitol after police waved him in according to what Alex claims Sam told him. Frankly, I'm pretty sure he's a ghost. Five, Sam was the first to get the footage of Ashley Babbitt being shot. Incidentally, I don't think this is true. And if you watch Sam's live stream from that day, you'll see him trying to negotiate with John Sullivan, a.k.a. Jaden X, who had captured footage of the shooting. He was trying to get the footage from him. Let me get the footage. Six, for some reason,

it's nefarious that we don't know the name of the officer who shot Babbitt, but we do know the name of the officer who shot Dante Wright in Minnesota. I have no idea what that has to do with anything. No, it has nothing to do with anything, but it's always a good idea to jangle the keys of racism away from the very real problems that you are dealing with. Yeah, you can see pretty clearly how Alex's primary motivation in telling this story is to make sure the audience knows that Sam's a good guy. Sam's a good guy. Even if he went into the Capitol, he wasn't wrong to do it. And if people say he was wrong to do it, then he did it without Alex even knowing or telling him to do it. Fairly certain. I've never heard of this guy. Alex hasn't

even told the audience that Sam got arrested yet. And we already have multiple claims that Alex had nothing to do with this shit. This whole thing is a simulation. I put the world on trial. This is fucking Shadowgate. This is bad. This is Shadowgate. Listen, he's a great guy. Never heard of him. Didn't tell him to do anything. No idea what he's talking about. Good guy. Speaking of Shadowgate, I've realized that the Matt Gates thing, it could be the Gate of Gates. It does seem like the Gate of Gates. It sure does. I don't like that. I think we're, I think we're in a situation similar to that where I imagine it took Joel Greenberg exactly five seconds to give up Matt Gates. I think, I think it might have been even less than that. The FBI went to his door and

he was like, y'all want Matt Gates? Sure. I'll give him to you. Sam Portnoy is not protecting Alex in this circumstance. Me and a friend had this joke that we would always tell each other, like we would smoke together. We would, you know, have blunts and we'd be sitting around passing back and forth and having fun. Sure. Sure. Doing the good stuff. And one of the things that we would always do is like tell each other about how we were going to rat each other out. No, he's just joke about like how if we're in public officer, he got weed. Yes. Yes. That's how that is how it's going. Yes. Absolutely. Just going out of our way to to fuck over each other. That's that's how I feel like I can tell you shit about

Matt Gates that you ain't never even what you didn't even want to know this. He got weed. So now we finally get to the part here of this episode or this special breaking news where we find out that he got arrested. Yeah, Sam is breaking news. Long story short, I was sitting there this morning about nine o'clock late for that shape with some weights. I got a call that the FBI with 30 people had raided his little apartment here in Austin, Texas. And now we're getting ready because we knew they'd already been harassing one of our other employees named Rob, not Rob, do the other Rob, who Rob did even go to DC on the 6th. And so we were just like, this is a crazy drag net. But but Sam had gone in

and journalists, you know, there was other journalists in there as well. There was the J next, they got $70,000 from CNN and others saying burned down the Capitol, but he's okay. He's been released. Yeah, that's fine. See, he tell we don't leave the attack. I think it's pretty overwhelming in my opinion. Not only was Sam arrested, but 30 FBI agents came to get him. And other four staff have been harassed and J next is totally free. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. I've been trying, but I can't find any proof that the arrest went down the way that Alex has claimed. He's shown a picture of a door that has a hole punched in it. But I don't know if that was from police ramming it or a random person kicking it. I have no idea. Sure. As for

Jaden X or John Sullivan, that's what's going to be Alex's main defense in the longer special report that he rambled too long during Alex has decided that John Sullivan led the attack on the Capitol, which is absolutely not true. Sounds true. And then he was paid by CNN to be there and he got off scot free. That's definitely true. All of that is bullshit. Oh, Sullivan has been released with conditions, but he's definitely still facing some very serious charges and they have not been dropped. That's, I mean, he's just out. Yeah. No, that's, it's still in trouble. That's part of the legal system. You can, you can get out while awaiting trial. CNN did not pay Sullivan to be at the Capitol. Alex goes on to repeat the figure $70,000 as the amount that Sullivan was paid. But

this is just a misrepresentation of the fact that CNN and NBC both bought his footage from inside the Capitol each for $35,000. Right. There wasn't a preexisting contract or agreement. It was just CNN and NBC acting exactly the way that Alex's caravan Sam did when he tried to get the footage from Sullivan inside the Capitol. Yes, correct. So yeah, I don't know. I don't know. According to a CNN spokesperson, quote, on January 6, CNN was contacted by a reputable agent regarding an eyewitness video from the Capitol Hill riots. The company entered into a one week agreement for use of 44 seconds of key contact, which was attributed to the witness on air. When his role in the event was later called into question, the company informed staff to cease all use of the video. Oh, that makes

sense. Yeah, totally. Yeah. So Alex's main strategy is going to be to point at John Sullivan and pretend that Sullivan instigated the riots that he was paid by CNN to do so and that he isn't facing any consequences. And yet here, poor Sam, the cameraman is getting arrested just for being a good reporter. It's all nonsense, but it's about the only angle you can take here that heightens the feelings of agreement correctly and you can profit off of. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I can't even really think of it because you don't want to turn Sam into a persecution too much. You know, you don't want to turn him into too much of a hero as long as then people will give him money. Well, we'll see. Hold on. You don't want to give Sam defense fund. Well, I mean, like you do want

to make him a victim. Sure. You can make it really all about yourself. Exactly. If you can manage to do that. Yes. And we are dealing with a world class making about himself. I wonder if that's what the whole next episode is going to be about. Good me. Good me. Anyway, here's the last clip from Alex's breaking into the war room. So we're having a detailed report on that coming up soon again at man.videoinfowars.com. But this shows you where the country is all that's going on and what's unfolding in the persecution press. It's not a detailed report and we're not going to listen to it because it's just longer but about the same stuff yelling about John Sullivan over. Yeah. So now let us jump to April 14th because I wanted to see how Alex is coping with this situation.

Sure. One of his employees just got arrested and charged with the riots. What's the new story he's going to tell about it? Now, one of the things that I think is really interesting is that we've been aware that Alex had that cameraman who was inside like we knew on the sixth. Yeah. Yeah. We knew the whole time. There wasn't really much of a secret around it and they released the footage of him yelling infowars.com while he went in the capital. Well, that's because the FBI is just full of great investigators. Well, I actually kind of figured they probably were aware of this and it just didn't rise to the level of someone they would want to charge. Yeah, it does seem like that. And to me, it's actually kind of surprising that there was a charge. I don't think he's going to

get in any trouble. I think he'll be probably released maybe a slap on the wrist. Who knows. So it is kind of surprising to me that they did end up charging him, but I'm not surprised to hear, you know, that there could be a charge. No, totally. So anyway, Alex, I just don't. I didn't know how it was going to land outside of those. Pretty sure he's going to make it about himself. Yeah, totally. And we'll get to that. But before we do, you know, John Bown has been a long time boring voice man. Indeed. He's got special reports. Yes, he does. And Alex will play those special reports generally in the first six minutes of the show, right? Because get him out of the way. Those often don't go out on the radio. Get your vegetables out of the way.

A lot of stations air their own sort of station identification and news stuff at the top of the hour. So Alex has this first segment that just is kind of no man's land. You know, usually plays on John Bown reports there with his dumb, boring voice. Sure. But there's a guy who's been really making waves. Uh-huh. Guy named Greg Reese. He's never heard of him. He's another guy who's got the special reports that he does. Okay. He's another little video maker down in Austin at the Info Wars. And he, I think he's making a run at the crown of the weird voice special report. Here we go. Immediately following the death of Nikola Tesla, Dr. John Trump, an electrical engineer with the National Defense Research Committee of the Office of Scientific Research and Development

and interestingly, President Donald Trump's uncle was called in to analyze the Tesla papers. Is that interesting? After only three days, John Trump officially concluded that Tesla's work was primarily speculative and did not include workable methods. We are then told that most of Tesla's papers disappeared, but his work most definitely quietly continued. All right, man. I hear that driving music behind you. What is the special report about? This is about Tesla, man. This is about how Tesla's work is the underpinning for all of our futuristic technology that was stolen from him and hidden from the public. Yeah. I didn't know what was going on, but I was excited. Yeah. I was like, this is how the show is starting. Yeah. This special report, this is weird. I'm

really more interested in Tesla than I am in whatever other bullshit they're going to spout. Let's hear this Tesla shit. So, Greg Reese, he wants to blow some minds talking about some of this physics stuff and wireless energy, mysterious stuff that Tesla has figured out. Teleportation. I saw the prestige. Bruce De Palma's spinning ball experiment from 1977 is simple enough for anyone to repeat. Two steel balls are repeatedly launched with equal force. One is spinning. The other is not. The spinning ball consistently flies higher and falls faster than the other. This is in direct violation of both Newton's laws and Einstein's relativity. Really? Modern science. You ever see a curveball? For this energy.

Yeah, that's nonsense. You ever see a curveball? You ever see a major league baseball pitcher throw a curveball? You know one of those things that's on TV during the summer, 162 times? This is amazing. Yeah, modern science has plenty of explanations for why this phenomenon could be seen in different rates of speed between spinning and non-spinning objects. The issue is that there's no difference for these objects when you try to conduct the experiment in a vacuum. You know, like if you didn't have other forces at play, then they would travel at the same speed whether they were spinning or not. But because in nature, in the world, there's other forces that come to bear on the object, and they understand that. Yeah, scientists are not stupid. No.

The force that Gray Grease is ignoring here is called the Magnus effect, and it's basically the reason why pitchers can throw bending pitches or why tennis players add spin. The spinning object in the air exerts a force on the air that it's traveling through, and in the process, its path of motion is affected. This is a well-understood phenomenon, and it's completely compatible with Newtonian physics. I guess Gray Grease didn't really look into this before deciding that spinning balls are somehow that physical proof that physics is alive. It would be very hard to research the American baseball pastime. Yeah, or like you can find countless videos of people doing this, like dropping things from really high heights, because it is really

cool. Yeah, it's cool. It's really cool to look at. Yeah. Yes. Anyway, so this spinning force stuff that no one can explain. No one. No one can only Tesla. Maybe. Oh, but we don't know. John Trump didn't look at the didn't. That's true. Those papers. That's true. John Trump, Trump's uncle is involved in the cover up. Did you know that Bruce De Palma is Brian De Palma's uncle? Isn't that interesting? No. Nope. I also don't think that's true. So apparently, the spin creates this magical force, magic, or whatever. Yeah. And so we're going to use this force somehow. Sure. To create UFOs. These patents look very similar to what whistleblowers claim have been in production for years by weapons manufacturers such as Lockheed Martin Skunkworks.

The same UFO light craft that whistleblowers claim are being prepared to stage a fake alien invasion. So we got a fake alien invasion coming as proven by these these spinning things. You never see a knuckleball, Dan. It's it was an interesting special report. Yeah. Yeah. I don't I think that the music really does a lot of work. I think I think I think our music does more work than Greg. I think our greatest scientists are going to use a split finger fastball to develop UFOs. Yeah. That's that's pretty fun. Also, I would question what this has to do with the globalist's plans. I don't know how a false flag alien invasion fits in with the larger schemes. Sure. Sure. Yeah. We're supposed to be afraid of it does seem like the plan B being kill all of the

people would kind of make it for the UFO part. Yep. That would that would just be like, Hey, look, we're going to do the super bioweapon thing. But let's have a little fun. I mean, you know what? I will give it up to the devil in this sense. It does seem like he's got a lot of plans up in the air at the same time. And if he's juggling that many plans, that's a talent in and of itself. That's a management issue. And he's killing it. But you know, I think back when we did stand up, you know, sometimes you had to have somebody who's like, I'm going to start my own show. Sure. And I'm going to get a clothing line going. That's true. You know, and then start a video blog, you know, right? Well, you got to bring yourself. Well, there's a lot of plans.

And sometimes if you have too many plans, you're not going to do any of those, right? Right? Maybe that's the issue that the devil's running into. That's the ultimate. The devil's got the super bioweapons. He doesn't follow through on anything. You didn't even kill leave. You know, what was the point now? Stupid. Also, what like what do you think you should be more afraid of extermination or world government? Oh, depends because I kind of exterminate because I feel like in Alex's scheme now with the devil's plan, sure world government is not a necessary step towards extermination. That's true. That is true. So I don't know why the devil would need to push for that anymore. Well, if you have, okay, so if the devil obtains world government,

he's gotten through the loophole that God said that keeps him from limiting or a human free will maybe. I don't know government can do the free will limiting and he just gets to exterminate people. I don't know, man. Yeah, this is what happens when Greg Reese starts the show. This is a problem with with both I guess UFOs and the Bible. So Alex comes in and he breaks things off with like some real serious headlines. Sure. Let me tell you what we got for you. Yeah. Everyone is starting to call out Fauci as a fraud and mainstream news is now reporting that he ran the Wuhan lab, which they're now confirming is where COVID-19 came from. Absolutely huge. And then people say, well, I thought you said COVID's not that deadly,

but they want to own it and they want to have version one and version two and version three. They've got super deadly versions. This was just the drill. So Alex is just talking about a Washington Times headline that doesn't prove the claims that are in the headline or are speculated about in the headline. Yeah. So that's all that is. I was pretty disappointed. He doesn't talk about it until fairly ways later. Right. Well, I did see that the CIA would refuse to confirm that it wasn't created in a lab. So people have taken that as speculation that they're probably looking into it, I guess, but I think that I think that all along it's not been excluded as a possibility, but it's not the most likely possibility and there is not evidence

that it was right. That's the issue. There are a lot of issues. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, and I don't trust the CIA. Fine. Yeah. I didn't know whether or not we were going to get into the SAM issue early or late. I didn't know. It turns out that Alex dives right in. The FBI yesterday morning rated one of our crew members. I'll tell you about that coming up next segment. And the media is just in ecstasy. Oh my God, we're so close to arresting Jones. We want to shut down info wars. Think about that. It's not just take us off the internet, not try to block our bank accounts. Now it's, we want Jones in jail. He masterminded the capital attacks you've been hearing that since it happened a few months ago, three months ago. And now they're just fixing the intelligence to

go in line with all of that. So I guess this is the first instance of him making it all about himself. Yeah. Yeah. And happens immediately. Yeah. Yeah. Which is they got Sam, which is actually about me as always. I wouldn't be happy about this if I were Sam. No, no, no, I would flip on him. Take this as an insult. Yeah. So Alex gets to talking about his charges, but Sam's been charged for sure. And he might be a little bit off. Info wars reporter Sam arrested for covering January 6 Capitol riot Montoya. So I talked to Sam's dad yesterday he was here. Guess what he's charged with? They said making loud utterances. So Sam wasn't charged with making loud utterances. The charging documents are public and he's facing five charges. One entering and remaining in a

restricted building. Sounds like he did that to disorderly or disruptive conduct in a restricted building. Almost certainly three violent entry and disorderly conduct in a Capitol building. Yeah, that's true for impeding passage through the Capitol grounds or Capitol buildings. No other way to be a mob in front of the door and five parading demonstrating or picketing in a Capitol building. I could be wrong, but I don't think that Sam's going to get in any real trouble about this. Unless there's some kind of information that the state has that I'm not privy to like where he was in greater coordination with people than we know, I don't know. Unless that's the case, I would guess he's going to get a slap on the wrist and maybe not even that. One of the charges about disorderly

conduct and violent entry is described like this in the filing quote to willfully and knowingly utter loud threatening and abusive language or engage it disorderly or disruptive conduct at any place on the grounds or in the Capitol buildings with the intent to impede, disrupt or disturb the orderly conduct of a session of Congress or either House of Congress or the orderly conduct in that building of a hearing before or any deliberations of a committee of Congress or either House of Congress. Right. You can't go in there and scream go fuck yourself. Yeah, but framing that as him getting charged for loud utterances is fun because it makes it seem like the government's trying to punish Sam for yelling, but that's not what the government's

trying to punish him for yelling. Go fuck yourself to Nancy Pelosi. Right. That's not quite the same thing. The context of it. And you know, Alex is just saying that he's getting he's getting charged with making loud utterances. It's like there's five charges. The documents are right there. Yeah, stop playing games. They're public too. But look, man, everybody's trying to jam Alex up. And this is just a part of it. Sure. They've had all the major mainstream media, Wall Street Journal, New York Times, all of them approach people and offer them money to lie about us. They've had the big tabloids do it. They have done Facebook scan searches on any body that even ever took a photo with me and people that take selfies.

If I'm randomly at a restaurant, these women will get a call from the Wall Street Journal, the New York Times saying you have a relationship with Alex Jones. They go, no, I don't know Alex Jones. I mean, I met him once took a photo with him with my husband. They go, OK, well, we heard he raped you. What? No, this is a preposterous and we then get calls from these people and have confirmed it. So thousands of people are called by the savage criminal operators of just the actual leftist intelligence agency crime lords. And then they control the FBI and order the FBI to then go and reverse engineer it. So these media entities, the mainstream media are essentially leftist crime lords. Yeah. And they run the FBI. Right. And so the media comes up with this stuff

and then they reverse engineer an investigation through the FBI to jam someone up. I think that Alex is used to people he knows like Jacob Wall and James O'Keefe operating like this, where they try to set traps. And that's the news that they're doing what we're doing, even though we're the ones doing it and they aren't. I think that because those people that are in his fear do this stuff that he thinks that everybody does. Yeah. And I think that he thinks that's how media and news operate. And that's yeah, which is which is one of the big things that we can see is a problem with Jacob Wall and the the ilk there because that undermines confidence in any and all media outlets if you are so brazenly corrupt about it. Yeah. And if people have it

in their mind to equate the two. Yeah, of course. As if the the people of that ilk are in any way analogous to the media. Yeah. No. Real journalism is lying your way into buildings to surreptitiously record people and then edit together misleadingly. Yeah. That's what people believe. Yeah. That's great. That's good. That's good for the fourth estate. Damn sure. Yeah. So there's a CNN article about Matt Gates, the gate of Gates. Yes. And never heard of the guy. Well, Alex maybe didn't actually read this article. That could be a problem. I saw a CNN article. Gates attended parties with drugs and there'd be some huge party in Miami or a big hotel suite party. And the women went to the media to say he was really nice and he didn't give us money

and we didn't even see him using drugs. Women said I saw him take a pill once, but he was really nice and the women were all 25, 30. But that's at the end of the article. And then other women go, yeah, I'm getting offered money to say Gates did something to me. And it's not that Gates is perfect. He's a rich kid. He's a smart guy. He's admitted he's a party animal. Hell, he's for drug legalization. And I'm not endorsing any of that, but I'm not a hypocrite. I've never been a drug problem person, but I've been and was just saying I've been pretty much an alcoholic off and on. That it doesn't need to go down like this. It doesn't. It's unnecessary.

Why are you involving yourself in the story? All be like, that's fine. There's no way Alex is involved with this Matt Gates story. If you wouldn't keep involving yourself. Hey, look, I love the booze. Hey, I'm an alcoholic. Why did you tell me that? So the actual headline of this CNN story is quote women detailed drug use sex and payments after late night parties with Gates and others. That does seem like a different headline than the one that I was slightly different. Yeah, that is a little bit different. The article relies on the stories told by multiple women who claim to have been at these parties. There is a mention of Gates behaving quote like a frat type of party boy sometimes taking pills. She believed were recreational drugs.

This person believe saw him taking pills that were believed to be recreational drugs. Yeah, whatever. All right. The article mentions these women being paid by Joel Greenberg, but not directly ever by Gates and they quote said they never saw anyone at the parties who appeared to be underage. Additionally, the women disputed the characterizations of what they were aware of happening as being sex trafficking. Sure, sure, which is fine. Could just be sex work. Yeah, I don't know why. Like I said, Alex can't even like just touch this story, get into it all without like some some personal thing about himself. It's very weird. Yeah, it is. It is feeling a lit a little like, Oh, no, my son is in trouble. I can't. I got to protect this poor

idiot. It's very weird. Yeah, yeah, I wouldn't do that. No, I would do anything else but get involved and then tell everyone I'm an alcoholic on it. Now speaking of things you would or would not do. Sure. If you were Alex's lawyer, what would you tell him to say publicly about the whole Sam issue? Oh, I would tell him probably to say something along the lines of we don't believe these charges are accurate and we are fighting against these. My lawyers advise me to say nothing beyond that. Now, if you were Alex's lawyer and you advised him but not to say anything, right, you probably wouldn't want to hear this. This could be an issue. But my lawyers and people are like, I would not talk about this at all. Oh, just so it's all over the news,

then they can lie and say, I sent him in there and he had flamethrowers and hang grenades and cut Pelosi's head off. I'm not going to sit there and wait for that crap. I'm going to put out a million dollar bounty. So yeah, Alex is going to set the record straight before people can say he had grenades and stuff. Yeah. My lawyer told me not to say anything. So here we go. I'm going to say a bunch of shit. All right. Here we go. Shoot that. Shoot that shotgun of bullshit at us. So here comes. Here's what Alex is here. Here's his story and he's going to be sticking to it. I'm sure it's going to be very consistent. All right. Fully. So here's what happened. Everybody wanted to go to DC. It had a carnival atmosphere and I told her it's a Smith and Sam. You can go on

the next trip. I didn't hear you here to do the shows while we're all there and it cut to us live. Well, Sam, who almost fired for it, but he's a likable guy. So I didn't do it. But he came as close. He's a good guy and said, well, if Alex isn't going to send me, I'm going to go with the MyPillow people and he got press passes, White House press passes from them for the main event. And then I find out later, he's in the Capitol that day and got the footage like Sam got footage of the woman being killed and I had a huge meltdown on the rooftop sort of cussing at people. I said, he's supposed to be in Austin running things. He's got footage and I go, yeah, here it is already on Twitter. Then I go, why is it on Twitter and not on us? What the hell? So

Alex said Sam couldn't go. Alex says you are counsel. Sam said Alex can't go or Alex said Sam can't go. Can't go. You and Harrison Smith need to stay here and throw to us while I do whatever it is you know it's going to be a carnival, but you got to work. Yeah. Sam says, fuck that. I'm going to go talk to Michael and Dell and apparently goes to the Capitol with Michael and Dell. Right. The MyPillow people. Right. Yeah. Okay. Sure. So then Alex, I mean, everybody that works for it for wars, I assume is now an independent contractor completely. So Alex is unaware that Sam has gone with the MyPillow people. Honestly, he's never met Sam before in his life. So he finds out that Sam is in Washington, D.C. when he finds out that

he has footage correct of the woman being shot. But at the same time, Sam was along with Tyler Hansen right at the time who was burning a Black Lives Matter flag with Owen shroyer the night before and it shared a hotel room with Owen. You would think seems like they might have. They might have had text messages or maybe Sam was there when they burned the Black Lives Matter flag. Sure, it seems like it might have been hanging out. It seems weird. Yeah. That whole burning the Black Lives Matter flag kind of puts it out of carnival atmosphere and or into bloodthirsty mob atmosphere. I don't believe for a fucking second that there wasn't an awareness that he was there in D.C. Absolutely ridiculous. Now, I don't know what it means that he went with the MyPillow

people. He went with the MyPillow people. You know who you should investigate? Michael and Dell. That's who you do. That's like that. You should go see the MyPillow people. They're the ones if I was I'm mad that he didn't give me the footage. I wish he had given me the footage on Twitter this moment when I definitely don't wish he gave me that footage. So at the next day after the 6th on the 7th, Alex is talking with Sam and he's like, Hey, dude, shit's fucked up. Bruh. Bruh. This was a terrible idea, right, Bruh? Bruh. Bruh. You fucked. You gonzo. And Sam was like, Hey, buddy, it's all good. Look, I'm with the MyPillow people now. It's all good, man. They're going to do shit. And then Sam talks to me the next day and I go, Sam, you're probably going

to get in a lot of trouble even though you didn't do anything. You know, as a journalist, did you do anything wrong in there? And he goes, no, no, it's fine. Everything's fine. I said, that's not the case, Sam, but we'll see. And here we are a couple months, three months later, and you see what's unfolding since January 6th. Okay. So I really don't think the people on the right really understand what unfolded on January 6th. And if they do, they are lying about it. Well, I think one of the problems is the, you know, the ripples of the fake shit that they came up with to make excuses about it. Sure. It's taken a while to catch up with the reality of, you know, reality keeping on existing. Yeah, it keeps going whether you like it or not.

So Alex heard that Sam got arrested. Sure. Right. Yeah. And even though he told him he was going to be in trouble on the 7th, right? Alex then, uh, uh, last night in 2021. Sure. Sure. Last night, he interrogated people at InfoWars studios. What was Sam up to? Get the fuck out. So then I got to interrogate some people here last night and check their messages and make damn sure when I tell you the story, it's what the truth is. And I said, I thought I said they had to stay around the shows. Well, he told me he was going with my pillow people and then he got footage, he'd give it to us and maybe we'd reimburse him and be asked for receipts or something. And I said, so again, as usual, no one does what I tell them. That's why I blow up. Okay. As usual, when facing legal

troubles, I really want to check the messages and make sure I am telling the truth. There are a few other times when I do this and I have literally no control over anything. Nope. Nobody knows what I'm doing. I don't know what anybody's doing. This is an anarchist outfit. Legally, no one listens to me. Legally. I have never met any of these people. So it seems strange to me that Alex would have talked to Sam on January 7th. And then in April, he's interrogating people and checking messages about something that he clearly knows what happened. Has no idea. It was a cold case, Dan. I don't want to start a podcast to investigate Sam's involvement. Get the piano out. Yes, it's a new serialized podcast.

Yeah, but look, dude, sure. I mean, this story doesn't make sense. No, it doesn't. But who cares? Good point. Sam sucks. Plus, Sam is not a good guy anymore. Low level camera guy been here three years and I'd say he's, you know, second string. He's a great guy, but he's not gotten trained up to that point. It takes time. And sure enough, he went on his own volition, went in there and I don't say that to like me. Oh, you know, I didn't tell him go in there even. No, I mean, I didn't. But it doesn't matter. He didn't do anything wrong. It really sounds like Alex is trying to be like, I didn't have anything to do with this shit. This is like a story that Avon Barksdale's lawyer is telling. Like, listen, my client has

never been anywhere near drugs. He's never seen any of these people before. I don't know why you are trying to malign a businessman and large character in the community. Quite frankly, Bodie is second string. Listen, if he was part of my crew, I would tell you he was only a mid-level manager. He didn't have much going on. He was selling drugs on his own. And even if he wasn't, then I wasn't wrong. I don't know. He had just got his own corner. He was, he was moving up in the world, but he wasn't any good. I would say that if I were Sam, I wouldn't like to hear that. I would be real unhappy. Yeah. Here I am in prison for info wars and Alex is on air, saying second string. Yeah. I think we're going to see a little bit of a shadow gate fall out of

this one. Unfortunately, Sam has been let go. If I were Alex, I would be going out of my way to say everything positive about this guy. He's worked there for three fucking years. You know, you know what Roger Stone said about Trump when he got arrested? The nicest things anyone has ever said. Oh my God. He prayed for pardons. No. And look at it the other way. Trump said nice things about Roger when Roger got arrested because you don't want nobody telling nothing. Exactly. So anyway, that's what the lawyer from the wire would suggest. So Sam got jammed up because one of his family members tipped off the enforcement that they needed a family member to tip people off. I guess they weren't watching info wars. That's fair, which is, you know, it's not something I would

recommend most serious people. That is fair. But Alex is all over the place talking about like Sam's family. And I was this close and I said, you know, Sam's a nice guy. I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna fire him. And then I got to learn that his family member, we know who it is because he told us how she won't even come to family dinners because he's a conservative and his dad is her big Trump supporters. His family member, one of his siblings won't even come to dinner with him for years because of Trump. Sam's a big Trump supporter. I mean, you see Sam at the RNC five years ago talking to me, shaking my hand in videos that Eric Andre shot. So I mean, he's like, he's, he's, he's been around. He's a big fan. And so we're praying for him. We support him. He's in

jail. Okay, this is all over the place, man. This is weird. Yeah, a more important person. Perhaps somebody not on the second string would be getting a nice little defense fund boost. We're setting something up to help him instead. Sam just gets a nice little, we're praying for him. Obviously we hope he's doing well. He will definitely be working here when he gets out of jail. 100% I will not be firing him. You've sort of talked to his dad. But again, it's important to remember that what's at stake here and what's real about this story is not, it doesn't even involve Sam at all. No, it involves Alex. Of course. So we're praying for him. We support him. He's in jail for raising his voice in the Capitol. And they've got the

quotes about America standing up, all this stuff. But he was wearing two hats. He's a journalist. He had a presidential media pass. He thought the president was going there. The police opened the doors and waved him in. That's why he went in and covered it. He got the footage of the woman dying. He had other mainstream media there. So they have to all be indicted if he's indicted. It's all a fraud in a hope, obviously, to keep him in jail for a nonviolent offense, to try to have him turn state's evidence and make stuff up about me so they can put me in prison and shut down M4s. And that's their admitted goal. Wow. So that was a lot for them to have as a goal of sure. Yeah. Alex can't process this story, except as it being part of an elaborate

plan to get him. If I were Sam, I would be a bit worried about how my arrest was being used as a prop to justify Alex is completely out of control narcissism. You think I want to take this clip piece by piece. Okay. The first little piece here is that Alex is claiming that Sam just said, America is standing up. That is not true. That doesn't sound right. Here are some of the quotes from the charging documents. Okay. Quote, we've had enough. We're not going to take your fucking vaccines. We're not going to take all your bullshit. The people are standing up. That sounds like something he might say. Quote, here we are in the U. S. Capitol in Washington, D.C. in the Capitol building has been officially or it has officially been stormed by Trump supporters. Again,

the U. S. Capitol building in Washington, D.C. has officially been stormed by Trump supporters. And here we are taking are the people's house back. I wouldn't want that anywhere where people would have that on recording. I especially wouldn't want to say be recording myself while I was saying those things. Yeah, it's not in the list of quotes in the charging document. But my favorite quote from Sam's live stream was when he was walking in entering the Capitol building and he does a plug for info wars store. It seems weird. Like maybe if he was there with my pillow, he should have plugged them. But I didn't send him down there. I guess loyalty runs deep, but it's also a one way street because Alex doesn't give a shit. His dude's second string.

Oh, that's brutal. So the next piece is that Alex is claiming that Sam had a press pass. That is also not true. Yeah, from the charging document, quote, the director of the congressional press galleries within the Senate Press Office did a name check on Samuel Christopher Montoya and confirmed that no one by that name has congressional press credentials as an individual or via any other organizations. I have no idea what Alex is trying to claim, but there's no way that Sam had a press pass to be where he was. That's complete bullshit. And there also wasn't any other like mainstream media where Sam was. Yeah, the videos that have come out have been that were played on other outlets or things that people purchased from the folks who were there. Yeah,

yeah, the media isn't going to be like, Hey, let's go wander inside the middle of this bloodthirsty mob that hates the media. Yeah. Yeah, the where one of those hats with a little from the coverage I can find in any real outlets. It really feels like Alex is heightening this to a point of absurdity. This is my area of interest and what I cover. And honestly, I don't think I care nearly as much about the arrest as I do about Alex's response. It's complete sensation sensationalization where Alex is trying to walk this interesting line where he has nothing to do with Sam's actions, but the consequences that are coming to Sam are secretly an attack on him. Yes. This is how a narcissistic mind would interpret something like

this. Like Alex is blameless and all negative consequences are secretly a plot against him. Yes. And if I were Sam, I would realize this is a plot and I am being used. I would immediately go, Oh, he's a vicious narcissist. Oh, why would I think that he was anything but that who would help me out in my hour of need? No, but I mean, look, it's all about getting Alex. Welcome back to Alex Jones show. So there are now hundreds of news articles proliferating like mushroom. Oh, Alex Jones is going to get arrested. Alex Jones is finally going to get it. We're going to shut him up. He's sending one of his reporters to attack the capital of the most vicious attack on the US since Pearl Harbor. They're actually saying that this is as bad as

Pearl Harbor. Asinine. Again, Alex is making this all about himself. I failed to find any mainstream media articles that fit the description of what he's talking about. But again, if he actually means random tweets when he says media articles, then there's nothing I can really do about that. It's just the delusions of a liar. Yeah. Also about that Pearl Harbor thing. This is just Alex misrepresenting comments made by Chuck Schumer after the storming. Quote, it's very, very difficult to put into words what is transpired today. I've never lived through or even imagined an experience like the one we've just witnessed in this capital. President Franklin Roosevelt set aside December 7th, 1941 as a day that will live in infamy. Unfortunately, we can

now add January 6th, 2021 to that very short list of dates in American history that will live forever in infamy. Alex has taken this and twisted it into Schumer saying that the storming of the capital was worse than Pearl Harbor when he said no such thing. Yeah. Interestingly, there was a recent comment about Pearl Harbor that you might find interesting. We went through the worst attack we've ever had in our country. This is the worst attack we've ever had. This is worse than Pearl Harbor. It's worse than the World Trade Center. There's never been an attack like this. Ooh, I'm going to go with Paul Ryan about something 10 years ago. No, it was Trump talking about COVID-19 in May of last year. There it was. I'd like Alex's comments on that. I'd like to see

what he thinks about Trump saying the COVID-19 is worse than Pearl Harbor and Vine 11. You know, you don't need to worry about the things that Trump says. It's more about the vibe. Right, right, right. Speaking of vibes, Alex has this, this vibe, right? Sure. Sam got popped. I'm so, so Alex has nothing to do with this. However, Sam was there the night before with Owen. Well, I don't know. I actually, I'm not 100% sure Sam was there the night before. But when Sam was in the Capitol, Tyler Hansen was there as well. At the same place. Tyler was sharing a hotel room, hanging out with Owen and burning a Black Lives Matter fly. They all knew they were there. It seems like there is a very clear associate chain. Right, right, right. Yeah.

Sorry about, sorry about distracting you. No, that's all right. So Sam got popped and Alex has this vibe, but it's like, it's unfair. Like other people protest at the Capitol and they don't get arrested. I don't need to say that I didn't send Sam in there because I need to protect myself. I'm saying it because it's the truth, but it doesn't matter because you saw Kavanaugh hearings where they took over, blocked the halls, threw things, chased Congress people onto elevators, blocked the elevators, did all that stuff and nothing happened to those people. But when a couple hundred people going behind a few dozen morons that were violent and who did be wrong, they don't all deserve to then be indicted when the police officers wave Sam Motaya in. That's the second

time Alex has gotten his name wrong. Sam Motaya. Yeah. The guy who definitely is a good guy. Second string Sam Motaya. Boy, if I were Sam, I would be like, boom, I'm racking my brain for shit. That's unrelated to this. I'm going through any crime I can think. I think he embezzled 50 bucks one time. That's he took it from petty cash. It was Alex. As for the Kavanaugh protesters, it feels like no one got arrested there to Alex because he doesn't care. Right. And acknowledging that there were arrests would hurt his narratives. In reality, you can find articles about mass arrests that took place around the Kavanaugh hearings. CNN had an article on October 5th, 2018 about 293 people being arrested by the Capitol Police for unlawful demonstrations.

A Mother Jones article lists the arrests at Kavanaugh protests and if you add them all up, not including the group one from that CNN article, you end up with 662 arrests at Kavanaugh protests. That's a ton. And the main difference between then and now is that these anti-Kavanaugh protesters didn't try to take over the fucking Capitol. How many people did they kill? Alex pretends that no one got arrested protesting Kavanaugh because if he acknowledged that they did, he'd either have to argue that they shouldn't have and then be defending evil leftist or he'd have to accept that there are consequences for people's actions. And currently Sam is experiencing what a lot of others before him have. It was a risk that he either knowingly or unknowingly accepted when

he decided to film himself going into the Capitol with a bunch of lunatics and recognizing that dynamic is a big threat to Alex's entire pitch about how they're all victims. Yeah, the right has no idea what it means to actually protest. No, like they just don't get that. They don't understand the idea about accepting consequences when you put yourself in these situations. That's the point. You are accepting that something will happen to you in order to stand beside a ton of people. You can't take all of us. The cause is important enough to you that you risk whatever consequence may come. It's illegal to occupy this space and sit in the Capitol, let's say for example. And you do that knowing that the consequence could be that you get arrested because it will

bring attention to whatever cause you're there protesting. I think they're just so used to getting whatever they fucking want. Yeah, it's so bizarre for people who are just so interested in personal responsibility to not understand this dynamic. Yeah. Oh, well, it's not bizarre. People who are really interested in personal responsibility are usually really interested it for other people. Yeah, maybe. Yeah. So Mike down for this clip because it was so weird. But another defense of Sam is that he's got a lot of hats. He's wearing hats. He was wearing a MAGA hat when he was there literally. But he was also wearing a journalist hat and also just like a hey, I'm cool guy hat. And he got really, really dramatic footage.

And so we left it up because he was operating as a journalist that they're going to try to say, well, he's not a journalist when he's making political comments. Well, everybody can wear two or three hats. You can be out playing golf and then say something to the news cameras about your view on apartheid, you know, 30 years ago, you can be at a Star Wars premiere and say something about animal rights. If you want, it's two different hats. Okay. I'm guessing that Alex is referencing Gary player. Yeah, something. But man, that's a weird pull for him to make as an example of someone wearing two hats. Come on, golfers from the eighties. Come on, man. Just toss it in there. Oh boy. I think that was on Alex's mind because Trump gave Gary player

a medal of freedom. That's too predictable. Yeah, I hate people like this. Yeah. So that's weird. I think that there's a slight difference between a golfer giving a unpopular opinion or you making some kind of a political comment when you're on a red carpet. I think those are a little bit different. Totally. You being in the middle of an inactive participant in the storming of the Capitol, but you're a journalist because you have a camera. Yeah, they like to pretend that it wasn't a massive bloodthirsty attempt to take over the entire country, hopefully triggering Trump to institute martial law. So you have everything under your control. They don't like to deal with that part. Well, the circumstances are a little

bit weird to me because it's not analogous to someone at like a movie premiere saying something political. No, the version that I think would be really funny is if someone was, let's say, storming the Capitol. Sure. But they were wearing like Godzilla versus Kong merch. So they argued they were just doing promotion. Yeah. There's two hats. Yeah. Yeah. I'm a marketing major and also I am attempting to overthrow a country. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think I remember that and Marquis de Sade, whenever they stormed the Bastille, came out with copies of his book and he's like, just while I'm here, look, where is there going to be more free press attention then at the storming of the Capitol? You want to get the word out about your movie?

That's the place. Has anybody ever said no presses bad press, my friends? Because that's the truth. I don't think that this argument holds up in my mind that he's wearing two hats. How long before that's a legitimate advertising strategy? Fucking Disney is like, okay, here's what we do. We're going to storm the United States Capitol and then after we've done all this damage, we're going to remove our shirts all at once and it's going to be the next Pocahontas movie. And everyone's going to blame soy bomb. Yeah. Yeah. That sounds right. So I got this real sense and I think it's kind of a normal sense to get in situations like this, that Alex is obviously making this all about himself. Sure. Sure. Duh. But as Alex talked more, I really got a feeling

that it kind of felt like he is mad that it's not him. Man. It seems like he wishes it was him who got arrested. He's not a good enough martyr. Yeah. Disrupting would be blocking him, blocking the door, shutting down the hearing. Quickly. He's talking about when he went to Congress and yelled at Sundar Pichai. Sure. Sure. Sure. I don't believe you should do that. But particularly I got angry also because in the hearings they'd been talking about me, they did talk about me in that hearing. I was in there for five angry hours and they said my name at least six, seven times. And they had Congress people pointing me out in the back row with Roger Stone going, there's the Russians. There's the spies right there. I'm not a Russian spy, you trash.

And you know it. You're the globalist butcher in this country. Sure. So again, what I did was 10 times more aggressive than Sam. And if he is indicted, I deserve to be indicted for what happened. See, that's how I operate because the whole law is a fraud. The whole application of it's a fraud. It's garbage. So please arrest me please. I want to be a martyr. It would give me so much attention. Secondary attention is not good enough. Uh-oh. What is this? What is this? Just a second string cameraman that's getting arrested? I can't turn him into a martyr that leads the movement. I did 10 times worse. I am the worst person here. He says confidently knowing he won't be arrested or inconvenienced in any way. So silly. Yeah. So

we get now to that Washington Post, I'm sorry, Washington Times quite different. Yeah, hold on. The headline that Alex was talking about earlier in the episode. Is Dr. Fauci the father of the pandemic? An incredible Washington Times article out just yesterday admitting he basically ran the Wuhan lab. It had hundreds of groups funding it, but his program with Obama continuing under Trump till he pulled out of it. Two years before COVID launched, about a year into Trump, Trump pulled out of it. We showed you those documents last week to his credit, though that he got back into it by then supporting their damn vaccine. It's a terrible idea. What? That's the facts. That's the facts. Those are the facts? What facts are those? I think that it makes Trump

look worse. That makes him look incredibly stupid. Yeah. If any of that were true, which it's not, right, that would make Trump like a willing participant. Yeah. Bio warfare against the American people because it's not him just letting the program continue. It's him being like, I got to stop this program. And then a couple of years later, them being like, come on, let's kill everybody. And he's like, I'm tired. Sure. Go for it. That makes him real, real bad. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So we know from looking at past episodes of Alex's show that when Alex first learned about Anthony Fauci towards the beginning of the pandemic, huge fan loved him. He's a legend. He's a man among men. One of the best. Trump's got him out there. He's going to best person to lead the

fight. Right. Cause he was Alex thought that Fauci was saying stuff that worked for his conspiracies. Right. Turned out it didn't. So he threw Fauci onto the bus pretty quick. Also, we know from listening to past episodes, Steve Pachanik used to think that Anthony Fauci was one of the best in the business. True. Cause they went to Columbia together. Exactly. Yeah. They went to Cornell together. And that has changed. Right. That tone. Right. Turns out we have a new villain backstory. How do I know Fauci's in charge? He's been involved running these attacks and bio weapon attacks against Africa and others since before Gates was even out of college. Gates has worked directly under him. Fauci is the guy that actually runs the operational programs.

He's been doing it for 40 years at least. And his, because I read transcripts, his word for word stuff a week before, a month before, a day before will word for word come out of Gigi Pink's dirty mouth and out of the UN's dirty mouth, the WHO's murderous mouth. He's in charge. He's the one. He's the one. He's the one. Look at him. Look at him. Look at him. Look at him. He looks like an academic and we hate those. So Fauci's been running bio weapon attacks for like 40 years and yet Steve Pachanik, the great insider who knows everything in his overthrown country is secretly the forest gump of world history. Thought he was a great guy until like just now. No, I would say that Steve Pachanik thought he was a great guy until he was the first

person to be infected with COVID. He cured himself. He cured himself. So once he got infected, he was, he realized that Fauci had been lying to him the whole time, even since he was young. I don't buy it. Fauci was actually recruited into this program. When he was zero years old, he was grown in a lab, Dan. Since he was zero and a half years old, he was also exactly five foot eight at the time, et cetera. Yep. I think I proved it. That sounds right. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like the more and more you try to parody what Alex is talking about, it's going to say it next week. Yeah. It's, it's not far off enough to actually be fun. I just don't know how far I can go. We're just basically in comic book territory. That is true. So Alex is complaining about this article,

not really dealing with it at all, but the headlines fun for sure. So that's great. Yeah. And then Alex reads another headline. I'm a clinical lab scientist. COVID-19 is fake wake up and it continues on from there. It continues on from Dan. Does it continue on from there? It does. Would that continuation perhaps provide context for this headline? Yeah. That headline is just the first line of a meme post that's been going around on message boards and Facebook since at least early December. It was initially attributed to an anonymous doctor, but since it's been claimed to have been written by Dr. Rob Oswald, a virologist and immunologist at Cornell University's Department of Molecular Medicine. Man, Cornell is out of its mind growing lunatics at us. Oswald

didn't write that. Okay. And he doesn't agree with a sentiment, but people get tricked more easily when you pretend that someone with expertise in a particular field is saying something, as opposed to some random idiot on the internet. I'm pretty sure Thomas Jefferson said that. This is what Alex is covering in his stack of news. This is something that passed the test of what should be printed off and covered on this program, which is just pathetic. It's a meme. You gotta put, you gotta share memes. Otherwise, it's not even new. It's not even new. New memes are just old memes waiting to be reused. Great. Something else that's getting reused is Norm fucking Pattis. Oh no. No. Really? Norm Pattis. A tiny lawyer extraordinaire guy who had to sit

silently and awkwardly while Alex put a bounty out on his Sandy Hook enemies. There's got to be, I think at this point, Pattis has to be in it for the stories. You know, like 20 years from now, he's sitting at a bar just being like, I can tell you tales, man. I suspect that maybe he's flown too close to the sun with Alex and he can't go anywhere. Might realize it might be starting to realize like, ah, shit. I don't know. Maybe it's, maybe it's part of a book thing that he's trying to write. Like, you know how some, uh, some strippers or sex workers or the like, they like, oh, I do this. And then they write a book and they go on Oprah. That's what Norm Pattis is going to do. I don't know. Cause the more that I hear Norm, the more I feel like he's being more willing

to say info warzy stuff. That's true. Before it seemed like he had a little bit of restraint about, it seemed a little more professional. He seems like a real fucking shithead. That's not good. Yeah. So anyway, Alex introduces him and he also gets Sam's name wrong again. Great. I wanted to get Norm Pattis as a famous criminal lawyer and constitutional lawyer and also does work for us on the first amendment issue quite a bit on, you know, he doesn't know all the facts and this all just happened yesterday. So he's going to be limited on what he talks about, with our info wars reporter, Sam Otea. Wow. Sam, you got to listen to this broadcast. This is one that's going to change things for you. This is,

this broadcast is going to put you on the path to a better life. Alex is trying to do you dirty. Yeah. And one of the funny things about Norm's appearance here on the show is that you get a real sense that he's kind of trying to reassure Alex that like, you're clean. Okay, you're good man. What I know in Mr. Montoya's case is that he was arrested for his conduct on the Capitol that day. I understand he had a press pass. Federal authorities may or may not be aware of that. The press pass may or may not have protected him from all the consequences of what he was doing that day. That's a question that will have to be sorted out in a court of law. You know, I represent you. Obviously, my primary concern is you. I do not believe there are facts sufficient

to warrant a further investigation of you or much less than an arrest. I'm prepared to wage that fight when the time comes, if it comes. Yeah. So I mean, I don't know from everything I can see publicly available. Norm's probably right. Yeah. Like he was promoting info wars while he was live streaming going into the Capitol. Sure. But who's to say if Alex asked him to do that or is even aware that he was doing that? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That is something that will have to be seen. But it is interesting that there's like, yeah, yeah, he's gonna have to go to court. You're cool. Yeah. Hey, buddy, buddy. My primary concern is you. He's not my client. Listen, he doesn't pay me. You do. And let me tell you something right now. You keep saying what you're

saying. You never met the guy. We're gonna have a good night. So they get to talking about the shooting of Daunte Wright in Minneapolis or in Minnesota. Yeah, sure. I want to get my lawyer buddy on to do that. Yeah. This takes a turn for the uncomfortable. Let's talk about this. This is just now breaking. We know the name of the female police officer who said get ready, Taser, and then she shot and killed Daunte Wright. He's in the middle of rioting. He's got a warrant out for armed robbery. The city's burning. The police station shot up. He's kicking police flailing. She absolutely shoots him in the fog of war. That's what happens. I'm not glad it happened. But he's a thug waving guns around on the internet. You know, all this he's dead now.

What does he expect? You go to a riot? You're probably gonna get killed by somebody. Surprisingly, one person got killed. Alex is making up almost all of the details of this shooting. Yep. Daunte wasn't at a riot. He was pulled over for having expired tags on his license plates and having hanging air fresheners that blocked his mirrors. Very minor things. He wasn't fighting with the police, though it does appear that he was trying to get back into his car before he was shot. There was a misdemeanor warrant for Wright's arrest, but it was unrelated to an aggravated robbery charge he'd gotten in December 2019. It had to do with missing a court date for a misdemeanor carrying a pistol without a permit. Something Alex should not think is a crime.

There's a conversation to have about this shooting, but it's literally impossible to deal with any of the real underlying issues if you're like Alex and you insist on creating a completely fictional version of events to tell your audience. It's important to understand that Alex does this all the time. Real events become fiction with his addition of tons of details and subplots that aren't real. And it's critical to understand how he uses fictional augmentation of real stories because it's one of the easiest ways to see his biases. When it's a black man who's killed, the story is supplemented with all sorts of extenuating circumstances and details that make it so sad that the guy kind of had it coming. We've seen this play out over and over again

recently with George Floyd and Ahmaud Arbery. The opposite is done when it's a white person who's killed, as we saw so grotesquely in the case of Kate Steinle. In reality, an immigrant found a gun wrapped in a rag that he didn't even realize was a gun. He picked it up, the gun discharged, and a ricocheting bullet accidentally and tragically hit Steinle. Alex's retelling of the story became a tale where this immigrant saw Steinle with her dad, who the immigrant thought was her older boyfriend, and the immigrant was jealous that he was with someone so beautiful and he couldn't have her, so he killed her. These strategies are intentional because reality isn't what's real to Alex. What's real is this white supremacist ideology and archetypes that he

can try to justify by using real life events and tragedies as props. You see that. It's very, very obvious. One of the things that I think is really important whenever we're talking about Alex Jones and the things that he does is oftentimes it's less important to look at what is being done as the structure of why these things are being done. Alex is creating side stories and details about the story of this shooting in order to make it more palatable for his audience to not care, and he does the reverse when it's a white person who has been shot. It's just very obvious whenever Alex says something like, where, how am I racist? This is a key example. This strategy and this tactic is a fingerprint. Yeah, I mean it's immediately obvious simply because his argument, even if he

says it's not okay for the cops to kill people, his argument always boils down to it's more okay for the cops to kill black people than white people. Yeah. His behavior dictates that that is his position. That has to be true in his situation. So there you go. You're a racist piece of shit. Alex is taking issue too with the fact that the name of the police officer in Minnesota was released and that the officer who shot Ashley Babbitt in the Capitol has not been released. Sure. And then Norm chimes in. The Department of Justice closes investigation the death of Ashley Babbitt and they say, since when do you have an investigation like it's national security, like it's the CIA, and we don't even, they've closed the investigation, we don't even know the person's

name. This is a very dangerous precedent here, Norm. What do you think's going on here? I have no idea. I mean, and that's the problem. It's not transparent. I know that had she been black and there were no charges, no transparency, there might be more riots in the streets and then we'd be talking about the need for a so-called racial reckoning. Are you a lawyer? Man, you know, the past few years have really made me think that passing the bar is not as hard as it has been advertised. Jesus Christ. Wow. A racial reckoning. Yeah. He's saying that the reason that no one is concerned with who the Capitol police officer, and I don't even know if I'm going to allow that stipulation to stand. But he's saying that we would, everyone would be

up in arms if it was a black person who'd gotten shot. That's, wow, this guy's a lawyer. That's not good. Nope. That's not good. Nope. So if there's ghosts in the neighborhood, there's some strange in the neighborhood. Sure. Sure. Who are you going to call? I would call the Ghostbusters. That is correct. Who would other people call? Now, if there's a rustling in your house at night, maybe this burglar. Sure. Who would you call? I would still call the Ghostbusters. Those proton packs are fucking powerful, man. But do they affect people? I don't know. I've never, I mean, if you cross them, they'll make something come to life, I guess. You'd call the police.

I would totally call the police. Yes. And in that, you and Norm. Wait, what? No, I would never call the police. I would die before calling the police instantly. Norm would call the police. Calling the police is essentially attempted murder at this point. But I'll tell you something. If I hear a rustle at the door tonight and somebody's trying to enter my home, I'm calling 911. I'm not calling Black Lives Matter. That's the kind of statement that I hear. And my only response is, okay. All right. All right, man. Yeah. Cool. Why would you call Black Lives Matter if someone's breaking in your house? They're not a police organization. They're not law enforcement. I don't know. I just don't, I just don't know.

Are you really going to use that as a thing that's acceptable to say? Well, it's really bizarre because I think, I think we might be dealing with a Norm who's trying to get into a second line of work. Oh, he's, he's looking for that Millie Weaver slot that opened up. No, I think he's trying to get into standup. Oh no. I tried my debut at standup comedy the other night at a small club in Connecticut. And I ended my riff with the following. Hey, you know, I tried to buy woke insurance the other day. The crowd looked at me. What's woke insurance? Well, woke insurance is what you need. If you're a white man, because I'm reading the paper and everything that's wrong with this country is my fault. How am I going to pay for

all of this? I need woke insurance. And we're at a point where, you know, that sort of humor isn't necessarily farcical any longer. He's going to fit right in and stand up. Wow. Wow. Listen, listen. He's not funny. And he is a bitter white dude. He's going to go straight to the top or at least straight to every single open mic I've ever been to in my entire life. Yeah. Then the bitterness is going to grow. Oh, it's never going to stop. Wow. It's never going to stop. I don't know. I feel like if I were interviewing my lawyer and they decided to get into racist hacky standup, I might be considering a change in representation. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm I guess I'm going to call Saul Goodman from here on. This is not good. That's

not good. No. Don't tell me. Don't tell me that you started to do. I don't want anyone to tell me they started doing standup. No, especially not norm. Definitely not norm paddice. Not a good bit. Oh, yeah. Are there problems? Yeah. Yeah. I would go with the structure. So if you're buying woke insurance, let's explore this. Okay, let's do this. So let's say you're a woke insurance agent. Right. Right. I'm a door to door woke insurance. Right. So you come to my door. Sure. I'm in the market. Excuse me, sir. You're white. Right. Okay. So I need woke insurance. Right. What does this protect me from? It protects you from if people are rioting. So flood insurance. Sure. That is like, okay, so if my house floods, right, this takes care of this, this, this money

that I pay when it doesn't flood. Yeah. Is so whenever it does flood, if it does flood, right, right. Then you can have money to fix my flood. Sure. Sure. So woke insurance. Now, it's got to be something where you pay totally while nothing is happening. I agree with you. I don't know. Scream the N word at people now. Now. Now. I'm not that doesn't protect you from from that. It only protects you from the racial reckoning dead. So if a racial reckoning occurs, you're going to want woke insurance. But okay. So you're immune from these quote unquote racial reckoning. If you've paid your dues to your woke insurance, of course, why would we have woke insurance? What do you think this is? Some sort of scam? I don't understand what it's for. You're

a white man and you need it. That's all I need to tell you. The world is changing, Dan. Without this woke insurance, you could be left in the dust. I think a better way to tell this bit, if the way that Norm wants to do it would be something like a protection racket. You know, it's not insurance. It's insurance like the mob kind of insurance, right? Sure. I mean, isn't that like more of the vibe he's trying to give? Hey, you don't buy this insurance. We're going to say that you said the N word. If you don't pay your woke dues, they'll come and get you or something like that. More of the bit he's trying to do. It would make sense. Because it does seem like I don't understand what woke insurance is and his conception of it. I mean,

I think it protects you from being dog piled on for being a racist is essentially how well if you get dog piled on for being racist, there's a potential loss of income or of course a potential I mean, how does the insurance work? You pay money a month, right? And then whenever you get dog piled on for being the racist piece of shit you are insurance company comes around and is like, oh, he's cool. We'll be like, hey, now, hey, now this guy gets a free rental car. We cover those and then, but no, they have to the insurance company would have to be like, it's cool. It's cool to stop the dog pile. Sure. Well, we can't do that, but then that implies or it has to imply sure that the people who are doing the dog piling right so also work for the if you

is a wreck. If you haven't discovered this yet, the woke insurance company runs the world. Yeah. Yeah, this bit could use some work. Probably his delivery could use some work. Yes, telling people a stand up joke outside of the context of the comedy club is a bad idea. It is. Yeah. So norm goes on from bad stand up bits to biblical analogies. Now, I heard you say before the break sounds like I change it. I asked your listeners to go to the Gospel of John chapter five. And that's the story of the sick man at Bethesda. Jesus went to the fountain. There was a man laying beside the fountain. He was ill. So the water would rise. It's the water's way. They were he they had healing power. He was begging for somebody to move him

so that he could be touched by the water. Jesus said, why are you here? I want to be into the waters. He said, but every time the waters move, others beat me there. Jesus looked at the man and he didn't create an affirmative action plan. He didn't create a program for a racial or disabled reckoning. He looked at the man and said words that I don't think we say often enough to one another. Pick up your bed and walk. And the man did. He had the power within himself to take care of his own situation, as I believe we all do. So my view is the next time somebody asks you for something on a counter skin color, tell them I'm up here working on a Thursday night in mid-April 2021. I am almost glad that he got cut off by the break and we don't know what he

suggested you tell. Yeah, yeah, that's that's good. So when you are a lawyer, you do realize that other people do not have the capacity within themselves to defeat the law. Does that make sense? Well, take your bed and walk. I feel like that's you are abdicating any and all personal responsibility. Take your bed and walk. I also I just don't see Jesus seeing a man who can't walk and thinking this requires a top down structural change. I think the whole point of Jesus was the bottom up kind of stuff. Also wasn't the whole thing about Jesus is that he did miracles. Isn't it isn't? No, no, no. Who's the water? But but like people got healed by touching him and stuff. Sure. That did happen periodically. Well, he coded himself in the water. Okay. He was always

covered in water. He was all right. It's left out of the Bible, but Jesus was a very wet man. I would say. Oh, yeah. That basically what Norm is doing here is using a biblical story. Sure. To get the message across to people to stop complaining. Hey, you know what? I think if you ever see if I saw a slave, Dan, obviously I would go up to the slave get your bed and move and they would be like, Hey, we need some structural changes here because I'm a slave and that's wrong. I would look at him and I would say get your bed and move. See, everybody has it within themselves to solve their own problem. There's no doubt about that. Take your stick and get the fuck out is what Jesus said. So we have one more clip here from the time that Norm

is on and Alex is talking about a story about Patrice Cullers, one of the co-founders of Black Lives Matter. Apparently some attention has come to the fact that she's bought some houses recently and Alex has this to say. Well, now the Black Lives Matter lady that their own people are calling for investigation looks like in bezel tens of millions, 10.6 billion given to Black Lives Matter causes last year. She's calling it white supremacism to investigate her. I mean, no, you moved into all white neighborhoods. You have a private airfield. Turns out you've got like six houses, tens of millions of dollars. She says white supremacy. If she's so afraid of white supremacy, why are all her houses in the most white neighborhoods I've ever heard of?

Because she's trying to recolonize the continent that was stolen from Native Americans and to disconfit her neighbors by showing that we're here and we matter. Wow. Oh boy. Okay. Kind of feels like Alex's question answered itself. Segregation now. Segregation forever is what you might as well have just said. He's kind of saying like, if this person's so worried about white supremacy, why don't they just leave our all white neighborhoods alone? That does seem like nuts. It does seem like the point he's trying to make is if you're worried about white supremacy, you should leave our country. Yeah. So Patrice colors released a statement on Instagram about this sort of questioning of her money. Sure. And you know, she said that she has a number of different

careers and revenue sources, but they quote, I do not receive a salary or benefits from Black Lives Matter Global Network Foundation. She didn't say that investigating her or questioning her as white supremacy. She did say quote, this effort to discredit and harass me and my family is not new nor is it acceptable. It's taken away from where the focus should be ending white supremacy. And that's been twisted by Alex to saying like it's white supremacy to investigate me. Sure. So Norm takes off. Good. I think that was one of his worst. That was that was that was one of the most blatantly racist things I've heard Norm say. Yeah. I mean, the stand up bit alone Yeah, that was graceful. And that's like maybe third on the list. Yeah. Problems. Yeah. So Alex

comes back and he decides he's going to take matters into his own hands about this whole thing about the non-releasing of the name of the cop. Yeah. See, if he wasn't such a such a bad lawyer, I would say Norm Pata should be there for that. No, no, Norm had to get out of there. Yeah. Yeah. So when we come back, I think it's our moral responsibility to release the name as best we know. The man is a cop. Oh, that's not good. Don't do that. Don't say it as best we know. They can contact us and let us know. But it came out, you know, that the internet believed they knew who it was and the information. And so I believe the public has a right to know not to go after this officer. Yeah. Okay. I believe that. Yeah. Yeah. I would say that generally speaking,

if you just have a hunch that somebody is the person of interest in this case, don't report that. Here's what happens a lot. Whenever somebody reports the name of somebody accused of murder and says, as best we know, this is the person. Right. A lot of the times, it's not the person and you really fucked up their lives. Yeah. It's something that you can't really take back. Never. You can't really predict what the audience's response to your shitty reporting will be. Totally. I don't know what you expect people to do even if you are correct. You're like, I don't want anyone to go after this person. What else could people do? Yeah. Why would you give them the name? Yeah. I don't understand. Look, the people have a right to know exactly the

person. I totally don't want you to target. I am, however, giving you the name. Strangely enough, I'm going to read off the address as well, but I don't want people to bother this person at all. I am getting a sense that Alex is pissed off, that he is not being oppressed like his buddy Sam is. And so he's going to throw a wild curveball and try and dock somebody and see if it gets him in trouble so he can be the real victim. And also he wants to be clear. This is just because he believes that the Capitol officer is black. Okay. Yeah, that makes sense. That makes sense. He takes careful aim and kills her. Okay. That's what he did. And the grand jury didn't indict him. So whatever. All I know is we know every white cop that kills a black person's name. But when a

black person kills a white person, we don't hear about it because the media wants to act like it's only white people killing black people. And that's not true. Holy shit. I would say, like, the most impure of motives are being expressed here in terms of Alex wanting to say this person's name openly, very much openly. That's, that's one of those things where it's like you can not say things. Yes. And you can, you can, you can not say this person's name because you can't prove that it is the right person, which makes it a very bad idea to single them out. Second, you cannot say on air that you're really just pissed off on a race issue. Yes. Your white agreement is, I don't know why people call me racist. Anyways, I expect different treatment for

black people. Jesus. Anyway, it gets racist more, I guess. So when a white police officer or Hispanic police officer shoots a white person, a black person, a whatever person, it's instantly on the news every time. But when a black man should say white man or a white woman, it's never on the news because only whites do bad things. You've heard we're evil. So our intent exposing this is not to say black people are inherently bad or that what one black person does reflects on others. It's just, we're going to be fair here. We're not, listen, we're not saying insert the only reason we would be saying this. We're not saying it because of that. We're definitely not saying it because of insert. The only reason anyone could say this. That's not why we're saying

outrageous. Now we're not saying it because of this. The only possible reason we could have for saying this. We're saying it for different reasons. Now. All right. Look, I think Alex wants attention and he wants this to blow up. Maybe get him in a little bit of trouble seems like it, but he doesn't want that much trouble. No. So he has a fall guy. He's never met Sam before in his life. He has a fall guy. It happens to be the guy who is in the Capitol with Sam. It was not. Get the fuck out. Tyler Hansen. Jesus Christ. Tyler Hansen has been a pretty good investigative journalist over the years and he's been on the show before and he and others say they have the identity of Ashley Babbitt's shooter, which in the three plus months, the feds never released. And now

they quote cleared the police officer without saying his name of it. You don't normally see that. Do you like some citizen shoots somebody in their backyard? Later you hear they were in daughter. They were clear, but you heard their name day one. So is he in the new royalty? Sometimes you don't. Sometimes names aren't released. Yeah. You know, I don't know. I think that there's a sound of a whooshing fast moving vehicle that meant meant to carry a bunch of people. Yeah. That Tyler should be hearing right now. You would think because it's covered and Alex is throwing you the fuck. Not good. Not good. Nope. In case Alex gets in any trouble. Don't worry. I'm just repeating what Tyler Hansen told me. Yeah. Okay. Also, I Tyler Hansen also the guy

who burned a Black Lives Matter flag with Owen. That's what I was thinking before January 6. He's a very good investigative journalism. Yeah. Well, no, Alex said he's pretty good. Pretty good. Pretty good. He's a pretty good investment. That's faint praise. I mean, it's kind of so fucked up that it's like if I have to explain to you the difference between a cop running down and chasing a child and shooting them or fucking choking a man to death versus a mob of people storming the fucking Capitol building, trying to tear down the walls, running with people with fucking guns and goddamn everything. If you can't see the difference between that type of shooting and not, there's no point in talking. There's none. No, you're being intentionally

obtuse if you don't. Yeah. There's just no way for me to communicate with you if you don't see the difference. Yeah. And like assuming that the person who was the police officer in the Capitol was Black, trying to pretend that the relevant difference between those two issues is a racial one is absurd. Yes. That is absolutely absurd. But it's what enforcers would want to do because it helps with the white agreement narratives that are the fuel that the machine runs on. So Alex is going to name this guy and I want to leave it in just because I looked into it and you can find it being like like it all goes back to Tyler Hansen, but he tweeted it out and it's out there. It's public. So it's not like, you know, if it were something that I couldn't really find

easily, I might bleep it just because I don't want to add to this. Sure. But just for the sake of demonstrating that Alex is completely, unconfidently not knowing at all if he's correct naming someone as a shooter here. Now, now maybe he's not the officer, but for months, his name has been known. So if he's not the officer, let us know and or we're going to do a foyer. I assure you a foyer. I think I've asked my lawyer to do it for you. You've asked your lawyer to afford it because we have a right as the press, a right to know the identity of actually bad at shooter is Lieutenant Michael Leroy Byrd says Taylor Hansen on Twitter. So again, throwing Tyler Hansen under that bus. Hansen said this name that I'm not saying for any of those insert

reason. Yeah. Yeah. I have a way larger platform than Tyler Hansen and I am going to rely on his reporting, but I'm also going to say that maybe it's not the guy and hey, if it's not him, maybe he could call in and correct me about it because that's the responsibility of the people that you accuse of things. Totally. Look, we're just asking questions and if these people would come forward and tell us the answers, we wouldn't need to ask any more questions. This is definitely not something we're saying in bad faith. You've never heard this before. Not once in your life. Have you heard us say something similar to this in bad faith? Right. This is like Alex claiming that Bill Gates is in the council of 12 or whatever because he said it on air and Bill Gates

hasn't corrected it. Totally. If he wasn't in the council of 12, he would have called into my show. I would have been incredibly deferential towards him because he's powerful and I am a coward. This is not how it works, man. No. I like the idea that he does call a foyer a foyer, which is fine, whatever. It's his lawyers getting a foyer, whatever. So he understands that that's something that you might be able to do in this case because the investigation has closed and so there may not be a legitimate law enforcement reason to not release the name of the person. Sure. And you might be able to get that with the foyer request possible. Now, if you do that, you could report the name. Exactly. You can't do this and then be like,

hey, if he's not the person he should tell us. Meanwhile, the damage has been done by me saying that it is the person. Yeah. And also eventually we'll do a foyer report or request that we're never going to do. We will absolutely confirm this later on with a foyer request, request, something that we do so often. I pronounce it correctly. So Alex, like I said, it's just too clear that his entire premise here is that he's just mad that the white cop's name got revealed. Again, they won't say his name, his purported name. But again, we do know Kim Potter's name and she said to evacuate her house and the police station has been burned down, but that's okay because she's a white devil and she deserves it. So there you go. I mean, it's just too obvious.

What is animating this and what's motivating him to behave in the ways he is? Even without that motive, this behavior is unacceptable. But having this kind of a reckless, irresponsible behavior going on while it's being so obviously motivated by feelings of white identity, insecurity, and victim hood, it's multiple layers of unacceptable. I can't believe he's this transparent. Yeah. I mean, but it is kind of a truth that if you cling to whiteness, eventually that's the only thing you're going to have left. Like clinging to the color of your skin as something important is going to push everybody out of your life eventually. Or it's only going to unite you with other people who are clinging to whiteness. And until you find a difference between you.

Yeah. Exactly. Until it's time to shut them out for not being white enough for Right. Wrong color hair. Yeah. Something. Wrong religion, whatever you want. Yeah. I mean, I think in many ways it comes down to just like having a mentality that is so entirely based on exclusion is going to exclude. And it's going to just, it's going to go that way. That's how it works. Yeah. So now at this point, Alex goes to Owen Troyer, who's down by the border trying to get more footage of stopping smugglers, I guess. That's where I would want to be. I would want to be near the U.S. Mexico border if I was Owen Troyer, just in case. Yeah. Just like, oh, I'll take a little step over here and now I'm not in trouble. No more.

Come and get me. Yeah. Come on. Suck it, Biden. You want to extradite me for this? Come on. So yeah, I didn't, I didn't care for any of that. I don't, I'm not going to play this dance. No. And I got really mad. I got really mad at Alex. One, because of how disgusting this display has been for most of this episode. Absolutely. But then second, because here's a clip from the first hour that I got really excited about and he just fucking teased me. And then separately I'm mixing into my stacks and I can't find it because I was about to hit it. Will you guys get me the New John Hopkins cyber collapse document that Jamie White wrote? I've got the document, but I can't find always on the bottom. I did find it. Ah,

cyber polygon 2021 globalist run simulation of coming cyber pandemic prepare for economic reset. This is the blueprint till you John Hopkins is like the main horse in the fight down against us. All the globalists are their tester drills. They agree at committee what they're going to do. That's given to these academics and business people and top scientists and in the top of their fields, academia, banking, computer science, weapons, psychology, psychology, then they launch the attack. I'm going to be hitting that as well. I've got to hit that. You got to hit it. You have to hit that. You got to. You literally have to hit that. And then he didn't. That's the most important story I've ever heard. Cyber polygon 2021.

Cyber polygon 2021. I got to know. It's so great. The great reset is happening and it's through the cyber polygon 2021. So I found the documents and everything, and then Alex never brought it up. So I don't get to talk about it. Damn it. Anyway, I look someday soon. Look, it's yeah, we will talk about it once he talks about it. We'll get the thing that I struggled with is like, I got really excited. There's primary documents here. It is actually something that interesting. Maybe we could talk about, but I'm not going to debunk things. Alex doesn't even get to. Yeah, that's not fair. No, that's not fair. You can't pre bunk things. No, because I don't actually even know what his

angle is outside of that vague nonsense. Exactly. Anyway, once he talks about cyber polygon, I'll be very excited. We'll get to it. I have a lot to say about it. It's good that you've got it in the can though. You know, it's always good to be one step ahead of the road runner. It's unsatisfying though, because, you know, I'm listening to this bullshit about Sam. Sure. Sure. And then Alex and Norm getting racist as hell. Yeah. And I'm like, at least I've got cyber polygon to look forward to. And then it just doesn't happen. Oh man. Bullshit. I, I'm telling you, I think second string Sam should have been on the second string for this episode. Should have been cyber polygon 2021 all day. If I were Alex, I might have spent more time on that

than trying to make Sam's arrest about himself. Yeah, that would be smart. But narcissists got to do what they got to do. It does seem like it. So yeah, I think that, I think this is, you know, one of the first times that we've had an active info wars employee get arrested. Ah, yeah. And so that's kind of interesting. And that was one of the reasons why I was like, we got to, we got to get into this. Well, Millie Weaver got arrested, but she was, I think that was unrelated. Yeah. No, it was totally unrelated. And she was not, they are, she was an independent contractor. Honestly, never met her before in my life. Yeah. And she, she was fired pretty quick. Yeah. Very quick. Um, and then like Joe Bigs got

arrested, but he's a former employee. Sure. That's true. Roger Stone, but you know, he's, yeah, he's Roger Stone. He's Roger Stone. I guess a lot of them have been arrested. Wow. All right. I like how felons can't vote, but they can work at info wars. So Jordan, we'll be back with another episode, hopefully covering cyber polygons. Yeah. No kidding. We got something to do. We got to do something with that. Yeah. That's going to be my big tease from now on. Eventually we'll get to cyber polygons. Sooner or later, we're going to hit cyber polygons 2021. But until then we have a website, Jordan. We do have a website. It's knowledge.com. Yes. We're also on Twitter.

We are on Twitter. It's at knowledge.org. We're fighting that. Go to bed, Jordan. We're also on Facebook. We are Facebook. If you could please find a local charity or bail fund in your area to help out people doing God's work right now. We'll be back until then. I'm Neo. I'm Leo. I'm DZX Clark. I'm Daryl Rundis. Jordan, I place you under arrest for loud utterances. Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. Hello, Alex. I'm a first-name caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you.