Knowledge Fight - #561: Jordan Takes The Wheel 6

Episode Date: May 26, 2021

Before leaving for vacation, Jordan sat Dan down to tell him about a new space weirdo he’s come across. Are there Nazis in space? Is the pyramid in Giza a “Death Star?” Does the moon ring like a bell? All this and more on the show today. 

I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys knowledge Hey everybody welcome back to fight knowledge. I am Jordan. I'm Dan. This is the podcast where Selene worships at the altar of Dan Friesen and we talk about anybody but Alex Jones of a collaborative worship relationship. Yeah. Yeah. It's a it's a real mutual worship kind of thing. Yeah. Yeah. Very symbiotic. Sure. If you will. Jordan I have a question for you. What's that? What is your bright spot for today? My bright spot for today is I I'm not I'm not trying to plug. I have no interest in plugging. Oh shit. This sounds like it's a lead into a plug. We we did an episode of the other show that we do the D&D

show and dragons. Yes. God's damn wizard. Damn wizard. You are the dungeon master. Yeah. Slightly slightly competent. Oh boy. Flailing about dungeon master. Yeah. But last night we recorded and it would have been a couple of weeks recorded and it was so fucking great. It was a lot of fun to hang out with with all of the you know with Marty and Liz and Sarah and you. It's just so much fun to hang out. Yeah it is. It is. It's a it's a it's a fun social thing that we don't get enough of these days and we could have been doing stuff like it the whole time. The whole time. Turns out it was always there. Yeah. And you know I admire your effort that you've put into that. You know like we shit on you a

bit. No it wouldn't work if you didn't have a story. No that's true for it. That is true. No and it's just so much fun. If you like it you like it. That's great but I like it so everybody else can go to hell. Well that kind of thing. Your your bright spot actually kind of weaves into mine a little bit. Yes. And that is that we did do that. Dungeons Dragons ish role playing. Yeah. And it got away from me a little bit and I started. I had a few drinks and I watched the white rapper show on VH one for a long time. It was not available anywhere. I couldn't find the actual episodes and I started watching some of it on on YouTube. It's now available on YouTube. Thank God for Internet archivists who are

just like yeah I guess it was a show in 2003. We're going to find it and put it out. It's going to be out there. Yeah. It doesn't matter what it is. And I watched the finale and John Brown is great. That's my bright spot. John Brown. John Brown. King of the burbs. King of the burbs and King of murdering slave owners. The two greats of John Brown. You know what I say about murdering slave owners. Hooray. Hallelujah. Hello back. There we go. Well Dan for today's episode episode number six of Jordan takes a well 5.1. Yeah. Since we lost five. Yeah. We have to call this five. We'll call this five. But I am engineering this to make sure that audio doesn't disappear. Yes. I did notice that. Yeah. So today we are going

to be talking about Nazis and aliens Dan. Oh thank God. That's what I'm all about. Oh my God. I will say I will say this. I went through. You told me that you had found something that was really exciting and really interesting. I didn't know what to expect and you telling me that it's Nazis and aliens like that is as good as it could have been as a reveal. It's about as good as it can get there. Thank you Jordan. So we will be talking about one maybe or maybe not Dr. Joseph Pharrell. But I think before we do that we're going to need to say thank you to some people. Yes. I think we would be to do that. So first let's say what's up to peaches are nasty plums are supreme. You are now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. I totally agree

with that too. Plums are underrated. Yeah. Wrong. Next. Sir McSwaggins the third. Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much sir. McSwaggins. Next. Zach from Texas. Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thanks Zach. This one is a policy wonk and also an added shout out. Shout out to basic and this is the name here. Fuck you Miles. I wrote that wave like a dick. You're now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much to all of that. Next. Sarah Kat. Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thanks Sarah Kat. All one word here. Uh huh. Tacos, burritos and chimichangas. Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. Tacos,

burritos, chimichangas. And I got to say we have a we have a technocrat and this is actually a combo. Uh girl with a U. Uh huh. Girl and Edith Bouvoir, Beale and Napoleon Moyle. You're now a technocrat. I'm a policy wonk. Crikey mate. That's fantastic. Have yourself a brew. How's your 401k doing bro? All right. We got to go full tilt buggy on this Watson. All right. Let's just get down to business. We ain't making that money off that heroin. Why are you pimp so good? My neck is freakishly large. I declare infall war on you. Thank you so much girl and Edith Bouvoir, Beale and Napoleon Moyle. Thank you very much to the both of you. Jordan. Yes sir. We are recording this in advance but we're on vacation. Indeed we are. Um and I kind of lied to you a little bit. Oh

no. Yeah. What happened? Well, see here's the thing. Oh my god. Have you been dead this whole time? Yes. Oh shit. I knew it. I'm trying to lure you to my ghost home. I knew it. I knew it. I knew it was too good to be true. Dan Friesen has been dead for 17 years. Twist. This is shamblon. Damn it. No. I you know it seemed like just a random vacation. It's like it's overdue. Let's take some time and have have some fun. Sure. The reality is that I'm celebrating a couple of Wong's birthdays. Okay. So I like to go wish I had birthday to just another Dan. Okay. Great name. Great name. I feel like every Dan should not feel like they're just another Dan. But this is another Dan. I think every Dan is special. Yeah. Except for Dan Hastert. No. Dennis Hastert.

I don't know. I didn't know. I was I somehow mixed up Dan Snyder and Dennis Hastert in my head. Okay. And they're both monsters. So that's sure. Sure. And then also Newt got a fantastic lovely email from Newt. And I'd like to wish Newt a happy birthday. Although you could go like Ingridge on this one, but you shouldn't know. Actually, that's my grandfather's name. Is that right? It is his name. I didn't know that. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's a strange name. It is. Well, he's his birth name. I believe is not. I believe his birth name is noble. Oh, okay. And somehow they just started calling him, I guess at a certain point in time, Newt was short for noble. And so that's how he goes. Wow. Yeah. How about that? I don't dislike it as a name. And also

while we're in Hawaii, I will be chasing down a ton of lizards and newts and for sure. Oh, you got it. So iguana. I might come back with a bunch of iguanas. We're going to get a new thing, a luggage. We're going to poke some holes in it and you're just going to have a bag of lizards that you're wandering around with. I think that that was one of the most important parts of my childhood in Hawaii was finding little lizards. Yeah. And so we will reclaim a little bit of that. Anyway, happy birthday to you. I think they're more fun than the planes of central Midwest. I will say that. So Jordan, I hear, I hear that we have a conversation about Nazis and aliens. Indeed we do. Today we will be talking about an interview that Joseph Ferrell gave with Richard

Sorette, who does the conspiracy show with Richard Sorette. He is also a regular guest host on Coast to Coast. Okay. So, so he's, he's that kind of one of the junior varsity guys. Coast to Coast. I don't keep track of those guys, unfortunately. No. And we're, yeah, they're, he's, he's pretty, I don't know. We'll see how much you like him. But Joseph Ferrell is called a doctor. He has from what his bio says, a doctorate of patristics from Oxford University, which is basically a theology kind of thing. If you go by what many people who have interviewing have given him credits for, he has a doctorate of physics. If you go by other people, he has a doctorate of what was it, not patristics either, philosophy,

none of which I think he has. I kind of don't think that he went to Oxford, mainly because he has one story about his time at Oxford. And I can find no evidence that this Joseph Ferrell went to Oxford. However, there's another Joseph Ferrell with a doctorate of economics from Oxford. So that's possible. And his story from Oxford, his years there, is he was at a debate at the Oxford Union Society that lasted for eight days. And it was, and it was sponsored by Heineken for the Ethiopia food relief right around live aid, all of that stuff. And endurance debate. Yes. And here's the thing. Here's the thing. If this is true, then Boris fucking Johnson was there because they were Boris was running

the Union Debate Society. And so we should know about this. Were they on opposite sides of the issue? Or they don't know allegedly. No, no, no. What I'm saying is he doesn't mention Boris Johnson at all. It seems like it would be a headline. Seems like you would know if you were at a eight day debate with the future fucking Prime Minister of the United Kingdom. Yeah. The debate went so long that I had to break pencils and make a little fire in order to keep warm. Yeah, like Wade Boggs. Exactly. Yes, absolutely. He also, according to himself, grew up in South Dakota. And one fun story he tells is that when he was growing up, he was around six or seven years old. And his best friends, there were more than one of them

who had fathers who fought for the Germans in World War Two. It's a great break. Yeah. Yeah. So he grew up around Nazis. Yeah. Now, here is the kind of thing you generally want to keep close to the vest. You would think I don't want to tell people because he and he tosses it off like they fought for the Germans. Yeah, it's weird enough that like, you know, we do a show where Alex talks about like being Confederate Royal. Yeah, exactly. That's weird enough. But I would, I would think that like, I know people and I hung out who's who we're not. We're not. They were just Nazis. No big deal. But he is, however, a scholar. I think the fact that he grew up around Nazis will explain a lot of his later on his later life. However, he is definitely a scholar.

He's got at least a master's degree that I can confirm. And he has written a total of maybe 40, 45 books. That's too many books. Way too many. Here's the strangest part, though. Okay. His first books are all about religion. He translated the mystic god of the Holy Spirit by Patriarch Fodios from the Greek. And apparently it's a really good translation. All right. And he's cited writing the foreword in Christian circles of being holy cow. This is foreign to our show. Totally, totally. He wrote Free Will and St. Maximus the Confessor, which is him trying to deal with Calvinism. He does not do well. And then the disputation of Pyrrhus as well as what was the other one? God, History and Dialectic, which is his final religious

book. Now, that was published in 1997. In 2002, he published his next book, which would begin the future of his career. Would you like to guess what the title of that book might be? Well, I mean, you've already sort of tilted some of these cards. Indeed. And I think there's aliens involved probably. So I would, I would say that likely it has something to do with space raptors being involved with the Holocaust. He's a Death Star. Okay. That's right. If you thought that the pyramids were just tombs, you're an idiot. Totally. Because that pyramid is a Death Star exactly like the one from Star Wars. I would like to bring up that they were for storing grain a guy told me that there's that there's that during the presidential debates.

From there, he went on an absolute terror that continues to this day. He keeps cranking out books, some of which the titles can be like this grid of the gods, the aftermath of the cosmic war and the physics of the pyramid peoples. Oh, not a bad title. Right of the black sun, Nazi secret weapons and the Cold War allied legend. Oh boy. Let's see financial vipers in Venice, alchemical money, magical physics and banking in the Middle Ages and Renaissance of all of his titles. There's four of them in his early life that are like, I am a good Christian. I read theology. I'm focused on this and he's a good historian. And then he something happens and he's just off the map. Yeah, like completely off the map and winds up on the SPLC's hate watch list because

he is. Oh, why? Well, you know, that's something that I have been struggling with because I think if you'll listen to him as we go along, he's not a Nazi. What I think he is is a Nazi fan boy. That's that can be as bad. It is. It is weird. Yeah, it is really weird. Yeah, it's a strange and it's it's not a big distinction. It's a strange one in that I don't think he wants the Nazis to win. But I do think he's amazed at how good the Nazis were at finding alien technology, which is a very strange subset of antisemitism. Sure. But it's there. It's definitely I'm interested to see how you lay out this argument. Well, I mean, so so he's he's another of the he talks about globalists, makes the makes a bunch of puns about them. He's he fancies himself

a bit of a Dennis Miller type. Sure. But yeah, I don't know. We'll see. We'll see how that goes. Then there are another thing. There are another few things that are incredibly annoying about him. For instance, he always wears a hat. And it is always gentlemanly. It is either a Indiana Jones hat or a classic English bowler. This guy's from South Dakota. Yeah. I went to Oxford. Yeah, I think he might be playing that a little bit well. I wore I wore a bowler for a little while in high school and tell people you went to Oxford. I had no but it was a desperate affectation. Yeah. Yeah. And here's one that's even worse. He chain smokes chain smokes with a Cruella Deville cigarette holder. Oh my God, I love this and he does not inhale. He chain smokes and he just

puffs the smoke out the whole time. So it's it's so infuriating to watch this man. I'm just screaming at him like I quit smoking. Stop doing this to me. There's a part of me that kind of enjoys that because it's so intentional. Yeah. It's it's not obvious. Yeah. No, it couldn't be more pathetic. Or or his life is art and this is a piece of the there's also there's well we'll we'll see. If he was parodying the type of it's oh if he if say he was doing like a Kauffman thing. So say that what happened after his religious books ended is he was like oh shit actually religion might be stupid. I'm going to create this character and pull off a decades long scam to show people just how easy and how similar religion and Giza Death Star really are. What

if he just saw Andy Kauffman do his wrestling totally sort of stretch and it was like totally I could do this but with religion and it's not hard. He he was he was on his translating game and he came across a text. He didn't tell anybody about it. He translated it up right and he's like oh no. Oh no. I must satirize. I got it. Somebody's got to do it. If nobody else is stepping up to the plate it's got to be me. Yeah. He's he's a he's a real like professor type but the kind who kind of creepily talks to his students and chain smokes with a cruel thing but doesn't inhale. He says so on and so forth almost at the end of everything he says it is the most he's just an annoying guy. He's just such an annoying guy. You know what though. I mean I say be that as it may

and totally interesting like I you can't fault somebody necessarily for their tics those that you know cliches and no no no problem but after every sentence but you know people people just have ways of speaking and so on and so forth. That's fair. That's fair and so forth. So on. We go. What is going to happen. I've listened to probably like 15 hours of this guy talk and none of it was at all remotely usable. Yeah. Little behind the scenes. George you were telling me how interesting this person is and how much you wanted to talk about him. But he's so boring. Yes. He'd watched hours and hours of stuff. There's nothing here. And then and then last night he goes on Richard Soret show. Surprisingly enough and there is a lot of interesting stuff there.

Also in this particular interview Joseph Pharrell is looking into the webcam on his computer and he is holding an old time phone up to his ear like a big old timey phone like the the peach ones that you could really slam with a wire cord. The ones that had like that yet to put your finger in and go around the rotary. The whole thing. Yeah. It was it is it is so ridiculous to watch a man in a webcam holding a phone up to his ear. I like that. I kind of do. But old man house phone would have been like that's tacky. You should have just done audio. That's old man house phone by the way. I actually got some intel on this. He has a hamburger phone. It's a house phone but it's a hamburger. OK. So he threw away his old Bart Simpson phone. Yes. It upgrade. Oh yeah.

So we are going to begin this interview and you are going to hear Richard Soret give you some whiplash. If we get they're doing they're going to open up they say in phases. So the first phase if 60 percent of the population is vaccinated will give you a little bit of your normal back. If then in phase two if 70 percent you'll get a little sliver of your normal life back and then finally phase three we need 80 percent of you vaccinated. I mean I don't want to argue the efficacy or the safety of vaccines and people want to have the vaccine. That's certainly their business and those that don't that's their business. But this this level of coercion you know have we forgotten about the Nuremberg code. I mean how can how can people have such

short memories. That's I mean that's that's very in line with info wars. Yeah. What's fun about that. I find it so interesting that he is reasonable all the way like you know what if you want to get the vaccine. I'm not going to be a huge answer. It's killing you. And if you don't want to get the vaccine I'm not going to be like I'll kill you if you don't. Well I think that that but the Nuremberg code you know like that kind of reasonableness is kind of a facade though. Like I don't want to argue the vaccines. I don't have time for it right now. Yeah. That's not somebody being like I'm on board. Yeah. That's just like I don't want to I don't want to deal. Yeah. But like the Nuremberg code kind of argument is is very present in info wars world. Yeah. Like

Francis Boyle brings that up a lot. Yeah. It's annoying. It is. It's just them saying hey this is how science and math works. If we have this level of protection then you can do this number of things. Yeah. That's not hard. The argument that I would make back to this I think would be like all right let's imagine a scenario where this isn't all fake or whatever. This is an actual pandemic. How does what's going on now look different than what would be the best thing to do. What what is the like do you do you do you accept this vaccination quotia quota or quotient is appropriate in the case of a real outbreak. Yeah. If so then yeah what that that's that's what I would I would like to say. Could you plan a better way to do this. Yeah right. So we open

the interview and of course we're going to talk about you know COVID denialism and the like well we brought up Nuremberg and that has to do with Nazis so I assume you got it. So Joseph P Pharrell has some things he would like to say. Is he happy. Sorry Pharrell joke. If these vaccines were so safe why why are they resorting to such draconian measures to push people into receiving them. They're not exactly. And the answer to that even if they were is because of assholes like you who are telling everybody not to get them. I feel like there would be like people are being pretty aware that like it's important. But like you know I don't know. I don't think I've ever seen anything that would indicate to me like coercion of vaccination.

I think that most of the people who I am in social circles with have been chomping at the bit. Yeah yeah yeah. And have hunted down vaccines. No we almost drove five hours to get you a vaccine. Yeah. And now you know the CDC had that recommendation that people can stop wearing masks in public that if they've been vaccinated and that is just a measure of trust. Yeah. You know like if you like that's not like everyone must wear a special shirt that they only get from vaccination centers and then they cannot wear masks right or whatever. Like there's no coercion. No. What draconian policies are you talking about. Recommendation. Yes exactly. Like what is going on here. Yeah. I honestly think that it could be more. I would almost

to be yes. You're totally right. You're totally right. And it's just that it's just it's always a trap. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter especially with this guy. Anything that you say confidently you are either right about but here's what you're missing or you are completely wrong about and I have a completely different idea. So here is let's go ahead and play this. This is a long clip because I want everybody to get an idea of what this dude talks like and how he talks. So just see if he answers this question. Richard is going to ask him how much of this is preparing us for a world without jobs. Here is how that goes. Well I think a lot of it is at least in their thinking but I'll tell you something Richard. There's something very peculiar going on

in in railroads and people that know me know where I'm going to go with this because my dad was a railroad engineer not you know not the locomotive kind but the engineer that inspects the tracks and so on and so forth when I was very very young and he got me fascinated with with steam locomotives and if you have been following what's been happening with railroads in this country the Union Pacific Railroad has been restoring steam locomotives at a breathtaking rate. They just finished restoration of an articulated big boy steam locomotive 4884 to you know haul freight and so on and so forth. Now the interesting thing is Union Pacific isn't investing all this money to basically create a locomotive works in Cheyenne Wyoming to to enhance railroad

heritage days. There's something else going on and my suspicion is that with the increasing reliance of global technology on digital systems they've suddenly realized that they've exposed themselves and their their precious systems to a little thing called electromagnetic pulse or for that matter hacking cyber hacking and so on and so forth we just saw the colonial pipeline takedown. So I think Mr. Globaloni is also kind of hoist by his own patard. They're trying to put in digital systems and particularly digital currencies. So what you're seeing as pushback at least here in the States I can't speak for up there for the Canadian provinces but in in several states in this country we've seen some pushback of a very unusual nature against this idea of digital currency.

South Carolina passed a measure recently to acknowledge as legal tender for all transactions. What is he talking about? And interestingly enough that that legislation did not state that the coin had to be denominated in dollars. Texas opened its own state bullion depository and so on and so forth. So you're seeing some very unusual pushback that tells me that somebody at least in some of these states knows what the game is and they're acting accordingly to secure some sort of basis for currency should they try to roll out a digital system with their helicopter money and the missing jobs and a universal basic income and so on and so forth. Look. Did he answer the question? Yeah. No I honestly forgot what the question was because

I was I was going along with what he was saying about railroads. Railroads. I think he was speculating that steam engine locomotives could get hacked and I don't know what was going on with that and that was interesting. I was I was thrilled to find out about steam hacking and then it pivoted to digital currency and I don't know what's going on anymore. So the question was how much of this whole lockdown is preparing us for a world without jobs? His answer was well the railroads. Well I think yeah a lot of it is at least the way that they say it and then he goes on for two full minutes about something completely unrelated. Actually not something multiple things that are completely unrelated. I resent this because I'm not interested in the cryptocurrency

nonsense but I am interested in the locomotives. Would you like to know about the locomotives? Yes I would. Alrighty. I definitely would like to hear him talk more about hacking trains. Well here well his his thoughts and and he said that anybody who knows me knows this. Oh yeah. So it's like maybe it's a big thing of his. This is a big thing of his. This is a huge thing of his. You know what you know it's very hackable. Cool. Ah you're you've got it backwards. He's saying that Union Pacific is restoring old steam engine trains because they know that eventually all the electromagnetic trains are going to be disabled by an EMP. Oh yeah. That actually makes more sense like as a coherent thought than I thought it. Yeah yeah yeah well I mean kind of. Because I thought he was

speculating that like steam would be hacked. Right. It makes sense that it's like all these trains are digital then we have to have these as a backup. Right. These these steam. Yeah. It's is steam pumping. Yeah yeah yeah and then of course futuristic giant mechanical robot spiders. If we could get some flying steam engines a la back to the future three I'm going to be stoked. Yeah. So would you like to know what's going on with Union Pacific rebuilding those trains. This is from Justin Franz of Atlas Obscura. I'll just go ahead and read you the headline real quick. One of the world's largest steam locomotives is about to make a triumphant return. Hold on to your engineer caps. Railroad history lovers. Choo choo. Does that sound like a nefarious. So it's very very simple. Six

days after six decades after the last big boy was taken off the rails the Union Pacific is rebuilding one of the famous locomotives in honor of the upcoming sesquicentennial celebration. Oh the first transcontinental railroad. It's kind of like a tourist attraction or something. Yeah yeah. Absolutely. Celebration. As far as the digital currencies go what he's talking about is states having repositories for gold bullion and you know like certain states saying you have to take gold if somebody gives it to you. Right. Right. And I don't know why he's bothering about that because you'll notice what states specifically he's referencing. They are states that one are filled with people who say would rather have the state have a gold bullion depository than sending

a large amount of money to Ted Anderson. That would be that would be smart. Sure. And then of course with South Carolina and the like they're filled with people who are like the money the dollar is going to explode. So they might they pass all these laws all the time. It's just random ass nonsense. I would really love for you to sit me down with a map of the United States and tell me state by state what it's full of. It's full of people who are like dollars going to explode. This one I know it's just potatoes. My version of the Animaniac song. Africa Panama. So yeah that is that is kind of the way that he talks. So past that I've tried to kind of edit it down for clarity. Yeah as you will. He seems like a guy who is boring as

hell but also is teasing like slightly interesting thoughts in a way that's frustrating. And now you realize why I was like I got to talk about this guy but he's so god damn boring. Yeah I can get it. So this is this next clip is basically another in a very similar stretch. So you mentioned the colonial pipeline and the cyber criminals that effectively shut that down and caused long lineups at the gas stations and so forth and really kind of I think a warning shot of things to come. And then colonial admits that they ended up paying five million dollars in ransom in cryptocurrency. I think we're probably not getting the full story here. What are you hearing about what really happened. I mean was this really just an isolated you know an incident

of some gang of cyber criminals that decided you know to roll the dice and see what would happen. And lo and behold yeah they paid up. I mean what are you hearing about. Okay so that is the question. Okay yeah very simple. Long winded question. It's a long winded question. Everybody on these shows also every show that I think I've seen him do an interview on is at least three hours long. This one was thankfully only an hour and 51 minutes. I'll say that like in terms of like a lot of the stuff that I listen to in conspiracy that sort of sphere I will at least this guy's being precise. Yes. And like it's it's not good or all that like I don't know if we're going to get to any truth. Sure. At least you're asking a specific question. Right. Right. No no no.

There's something to be said for that. I kind of I one I like that Richard Serret is doing a Casey Kasem impression. Yes. So much. So much. I'm waiting for him to do top 40 hits. We're going to talk about the everybody we're down south going to the left and the right. I suspect they paid seven million dollars and ransom. What about you. And also here is 303. So why did I come with 303. Really don't know where that one come from. I don't know man. Okay. Trying to think of bad music and it was the first thing that came to mind. You could have done worse. Yeah. So simple question. What do you think is what are you hearing. What's going on. Do you have. Do you have feelers out. Yeah. Well I've heard basically

the same thing but I'm like you. I don't think that we've heard all of the story. And one of the interesting things about the colonial thing that I don't know how it was reported up there. But if some of the media down here was was citing government officials and so on saying things to the effect that this is there there will be more of this. So yeah. So he's citing government officials saying that there will be more of this and all he's really responding to him with is yeah I think you're about right there. And then he goes off on a different thing that you didn't know about like that kind of every time you introduce something or ask a direct question it is immediate like well maybe and then going off into whatever it is he really wants to talk

about. Right. Everybody just listens to him like that's fine. I have watched him talk for almost 10 minutes uninterrupted and people are wrapped by this and it's blowing me away by people you mean you. No no no I mean the the interviewers. Right. They're all sitting there. There's you like this is not a small thing neither. These are there's a plenty of people like constantly doing all those things. People aren't cutting him off. No. After like three minutes in your answer. Totally. You should absolutely be doing that. So the answer is yes. It'll probably happen again. Obviously. Well that's I mean like what he's doing is playing that game of like the the government is is being like hey this is a new threat. Yeah. This is something that we can't

expect might happen again and we need to prepare strategies to deal with this. Right. You are a business like the colonial pipeline that has like maybe infrastructure related necessity. Yeah. In your operations. Be aware. Yeah. And instead he's preparing he's presenting that as like the government being like we're going to do this. Yeah. Yeah. This is happening all the time now again. I would I would ask if like this is real and there are these hackers doing this. How is that statement from the government any different than the best case scenario of a statement that they would make as a warning. What is the differentiation between it. Well they never do that. Well fine. Yeah. Now I assume you would think hey that answer is over. You've

answered the question. Yes. Probably and it's probably a false flag. He is not done. He's not. Nope. He keeps going. About a week after that story broke there was a story about the interstate bridge on interstate 40 from. The bridge Tennessee. The bridge was shut down because they had discovered a crack in one of the pylons on that bridge and I've seen pictures of this crack and the top of the crack is is a perfect straight line. Now the effect of that bridge shut down was that barge traffic on the Mississippi River south and north of Memphis Tennessee came to an absolute standstill. So somebody appears to me to be working awfully hard to take down the the infrastructure of the United States in in these kinds of creative ways. So I think

colonial pipeline is kind of the tip of an iceberg that that they're getting ready to do something major in order to push their agenda. All right. Yeah. Get it. Yeah. See what happened was the colonial pipeline was hacked. Now what also happened was surprisingly enough very near to where he lives there was a crack in the bridge. Right. But the reason that the government gave for repairing it was pesky barges need to get in and out because it's a massive. This is actually waterways. This is genius. OK. Do you realize me on that for the last like 10 years the globalists have been planting stories in the media about how bad our bridges are. They've been subtly warning right that they're going to hack the bridge. You have to you have to

tell everyone. Exactly. You have to give them that cosmic choice. There have been these op-eds about how more resources should be funneled towards bridge repair. That's what they do. So sneaky. Now the real story behind the hack is actually really really fascinating. And if they had bothered to look into it well not the bridge right. No not the OK. No the bridge is not interesting. That's just just a regular old bridge. That's just maintenance. Yeah. They were just maintaining the bridge. I had a hunch. Yeah. It was fine. But you can turn anything you want into a conspiracy theory if you just go well they hacked the pipeline and there's a crack in my bridge. Right. The government's working against it. If you just if you if you play the insinuation

game you can you can make a lot of mileage. Yeah exactly. But the real story is not obviously they didn't mention any names of the people who were hacking. They were like oh is it a one off event or anything like that. This is a hacking group called Darkside who've done this. They are ransomware masters. They have been taken a shit ton of money and then they disbanded immediately following the colonial pipeline. Smart. Theoretically from what people are saying is after they got paid six million the small collective of the hackers disbanded and then just took all the money. The way that they normally work is almost 70 percent of the money goes to all of these like subsidiary hackers who do all of the the grunt work and and then they take their cut at the end. Not so this time.

So what happened? They left the grunts out at the hang. Left them out to dry. Yep. Wow. Yeah brutal right. No honor. Not too surprising. So this story actually begins before the colonial pipeline whatsoever. So from technology review by Renee Dudley and Daniel Golden on January 11th antivirus company Bitdefender said it was happy to announce a startling breakthrough. It had found a flaw in the ransomware that a gang known as Darkside was using to freeze computer networks of dozens of businesses in the U.S. and Europe. Companies facing demands from Darkside could download a free tool from Bitdefender and avoid paying millions of dollars in ransom to the hackers. That's a great thing right. It's a good idea. Now Dan what should you do when you find a flaw in a

hackers programming. Wait who am I am I a hacker. You're Bitdefender. Your job is to protect people from hackers. Why do you find a flaw. You should probably try and patch it. Fix it up. They did that. They patched it and they fixed it up. Okay. Now here's the problem. They released it as a public relations statement and within 12 hours Darkside was like oh they found a hole in our software. Let's find another hole. Let's find it. They fixed it. It was over with. So Bitdefender has basically and this is happening over and over and over again. Yeah it's constant back and forth. Well and here's the thing though. People who are good at this stuff don't tell anyone and all of these antivirus scammers basically announce the moment publicly like hey we fixed

this. The hackers can no longer get to us and then five hours later it's all right. Right. So all of these antivirus companies are trying to get the positive you know like look at how great we are. The press of like we fixed this totally actually antithetical to their goals. Exactly. You got it. They continue to go on and here's there's a bunch of really kind of interesting little details here. Aaron Tantleff a Chicago cybersecurity attorney he is he consulted with 10 companies attacked by Darkside. He said that Darkside's representatives were shrewd bargainers. If a victim said they couldn't afford the ransom because of the pandemic Darkside was ready with data showing that the company's revenue was up like they had all of

this. They were ready. This was a Fortune 500 hacker. Yeah. Yeah absolutely. Look I'd like to refer you to the accounting wing of our hacker collective. Yeah and not only that but the they have this like halfway we're we're only attacking corporations that we know can Robin Hood kind of that kind of thing. And yeah they even came up with like actually we do know how much COVID has impacted your bottom line and we have adjusted our ransom accordingly. So even if you don't want to pay the ransom it's like God damn it they make a lot of sense. Listen we're not heartless. We're hackers. We're not heartless. Yeah. So what wound up happening is Darkside just blew ever blew them away because Bitdefender is very very stupid

and they're going to continue doing it. It's just how it goes and all of this they're talking about like oh it's conspiracy are these rogue actors or anything. If you look into it you'll see that this is a hugely sophisticated operation right with people who are incredibly successful at all of this and it's kind of an inevitability of like digital progression. Exactly. Like as as there is more stuff that is is is online and digital there will be the the highway men of yeah the the online space. Of course. Like it's it's just like it's exactly what you would expect to grow and and get more sophisticated as people who would rob stage coaches turned into people who rob trains. Yeah and then it would turn into a mafia. Exactly. Things get more sophisticated

and more organized. It makes sense that the inevitability would be something like this. Totally. And instead they just say they're so boring. It's so much more boring. They're bad conspiracy theories. Then what is a real conspiracy. Yeah. I mean I feel like this is the exact same thing that we talked about with like that guy in the IRA. Yeah. You know like it's the reality of it is fascinating and it is a really interesting piece of how like history and like human interaction works. Yeah. And instead you're turning this into a conspiracy that's actually more boring than the actual. Totally. You're trying to fit it into your large conspiracy theory where it doesn't belong. No. Just be interested. Just be curious.

Yeah. That kind of thing. It's just not hard. You don't have to distrust everything. Yeah. Exactly. So real soon we're going to get into space but this one I just have to this is just silly. Saint Michael asks Joseph what about the Apollo. Oh he wants to go a secret space program I guess here or something related to maybe the lunar landing hoax. Joseph what about the Apollo 12 ascent stage experiment crashing into the lunar surface and it rang like a bell for a long period of time. Well I don't know that it rang. See I accidentally cut it off just a little bit early but he's saying he's he got a question from the audience. Saint Michael he's asking Joseph hey how is this possible and as Richard is answering is asking the question he's

like they say it rang like a bell and he's like well that sounds silly. It didn't. Yeah. So would you like to answer the question that I have just negated. Exactly. And here is the answer. Anyway Joseph any thoughts on the Apollo 12 ascent stage experiment crashing into the lunar surface. Yeah. That individual is is actually citing the the language of the scientists that reported on that experiment. That was their word. Hello. I'm a scientist. It rang like a bell. Excuse me Mr. Sirret. It did ring like a goddamn bell. OK. Immediate immediate response is just no. It read like it rang like a bell. That's literal verbatim. Yes. From this scientific literature. Despite being physically impossible

in the world we inhabit. Uh huh. It you mean in space. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. In the universe we inhabit. Apologize. So then we have introduced space and this. Wait. Do what. What is the conspiracy here that the moon is hollow. You're about to find out. Is that the is that the the thrust of it ringing like a bell because there would be sound vibrations. Right. If it was hollow but then it would also have to have an opening. Yes. So it's sort of hollow earth but the moon. Yeah. So the moon is a base. OK. I'm putting the pieces together. OK. Here I'm going to spitball. OK. The Nazis are inside the moon. OK. You're not far off. In fact you're terrifyingly close. Go ahead and this is basically the movie Iron Sky. He's almost all like a movie guy. Yeah. Love it.

Yeah. I think in the early 70s I don't remember exactly when it was but Sputnik magazine the old Soviet periodical published a set of articles by some Soviet scientists that actually had the thesis that the moon was a big huge artificial spaceship because it was you know it was impossible to explain the physics of how it got there doing what it's doing on any of the natural models for for its existence. You know the capture model deficient from earth model and so on and so for so I you know I give some credence to those stories and even to that theory because you know it's it's like Isaac Newton said about the moon and the moon's the only thing that gives me a headache because he really have a good way of explaining how it got there doing what it's doing.

I mean the guy quoted Sputnik. Yeah. Yeah. Sputnik magazine from the 70s or 80s some Russian scientists speculated that maybe the moon is a spaceship. 50 years later Joseph P for El thinks that that's probably true. My friend. Have you considered that cheese. Yeah. Yeah. It is. It is that that's the type of thing that we're dealing with. You are absolutely right. There are Nazis up there. I mean I feel like you know in the 70s because the late 70s might have been after a particular death star showed up in movies looked sort of like the moon. Oh yeah. That's not a moon Dan. It's a space station. They're really biting their time with like doing anything with it. Yeah. 70s and 80s.

You don't know what it's for just yet. So yeah at least like the second death star was like under construction and that made yes made sense for like why it wasn't doing right. You think if the moon was like a space like station would have blown up a planet by now or done something. I do. I do like the idea that instead of whatever in Star Wars they are like the it's fully operational instead they're like listen we're going to have to hang out here for about 50 60 years and then we'll get to them. I swear to God we'll right there. Don't fucking move. Don't move. People will notice otherwise. Don't leave the moon. Not just that but you also need to have like MREs to like they need to have so much food inside. But not just that you have to

then say that the moon has always been a space station. Right. So for someone had to have created exactly or had to built it pre earth because everybody is yeah. Definitely and there needs to be like some kind of like a biome inside that has like something. There's no light source. So you can't have like plants having photosynthesis. No. I don't know how you would keep animals alive. That seems like it would be prohibitive. Yeah. On the moon or in the moon. I guess you could have like an elaborate fungus kind of economy. That's true. It could be. It could be like a like a lost world scenario where you go in the moon and it turns out that there's actually brush and beautiful verdant tropical island there. I think you would still need something to give

like energy to that that that flora and fauna. Atlantis and oh oh and also Atlantis is also magic. Atlantis is in play. Thank God. So we're at the midpoint. They just started talking about space and now I'm just I love this clip. I just love this. Hey thanks for inviting me into your home. Long haul truck RV camper taxi. Your parents well appointed rec room with the simulated wood paneling electric fireplace and the painting of dogs playing poker. Your loft that greasy spoon just off the interstate and your cabin in the woods. Hello to everyone listening in on our flagship station AM 740 96.7 FM zoomer radio here in Toronto and hiya to those of you tuning I just love it. It just reminds me so much of Casey Kasem. It's just so much Casey Kasem. I

just love it. Let me describe a Norman Rockwell painting and give a shout out to the only station I'm on. There's something about that that just reminds me of literally a long road trip in the middle of the night. Listen to some terrible radio station and you hear that and you're like yeah that's what radio is about. Yeah you were saying this guy's one of the like junior varsity guys on coast to coast and it it shows smells like totally. So the reason that I wanted to do space is aliens are obviously in the news these days and we don't get enough of it these these days on the podcast. No we just don't and then this guy's obsessed with Nazis so why not put them both together. Now how might you think that because this is one question that I was interested

in especially is everybody normal now everybody who is not a space weirdo before is now like holy shit government saying there's aliens or something going on here. How is the UFO community taking this false and false life and the fact that the government stole UFO from them and changed it out of nowhere just because they didn't want them to look stupid. It's fake. Yeah right so let's see. Okay we have this technology now and and maybe you know that might explain these the tic tac UFO videos even though the the Pentagon is saying they're not ours they're not ours well maybe that kind of blows that out of the water. Well the the tic tac videos you know and all of this stuff I you know you can go look up patents online for triangular shaped vehicles

that use some form of field propulsion. What bothers me about all of this is not so much that the technology apparently does exist but bothers me is the constant rush to attribute it to ET and well I mean that's a thought. Yeah the guy who just told us that the moon was a fucking spaceship that rang like a bell that the pyramid of Giza is actually a death star right that the Nazis are just fucking everywhere cloning people and all this stuff sure he's telling you people are rushing to judgment on this ET stuff yeah you don't know you can't tell that sure yeah yeah he's being real dismissive of this and I will admit if this is one of those situations too where I've looked into it and these uh the original UFO folks are now debunking

the government's videos right because it doesn't work for the stories that they right the folklore exactly but in this situation they're doing a good job the the government's videos can very easily be explained uh and it's kind of disappointing whenever you look into the simplicity of their explanations and you're like oh shit what a surprise human error and machine error that's never happened in the military before yeah yeah like a lot of like headlines and uh like excitement can you can get ahead of yourself a little bit and and that's that's something that I actually think is really fascinating is that like a lot of these communities are capable of decent critical thinking totally just misdirected if you're attacking their bullshit yeah they will apply

very rigorous and solid critical thinking skills to your bullshit they can yeah it's just not usually done exactly yes it is very much never done um so that's why when I hear that clip it's like okay people are really uh eager to attribute this to aliens it's like yes they are yes I agree with you I don't disagree with that but not coming from you exactly yeah yeah exactly and he is he is getting uh he's getting a little bit salty uh these days oh no about his UFO information the the idea that this was a vehicle reconstructed on the basis of what they had they had recovered from crashed and recovered uf vehicle ufo vehicles um that to me could be a cover story for what they're really up to in other words this might be wholly a human product I don't know but I'm

increasingly skeptical Richard about um the et narrative particularly from governments that have been willing to lie to our faces about you know masks and vaccines and so on and so forth so yeah yeah he thinks everybody's so bad what if it's an actual tic-tac what if it's just buzz marketing yeah I think it's uh do you think it's like that uh that time aqua teen hunger force put pictures up places and then they got bomb threats for whatever what the tic-tac's been biting their time sure saving up their ad resume sure sure there's a secret program yeah to give tic-tac uh the power to create extraterrestrial vehicles I believe it I don't think that's terribly wrong but yeah everything that you think is wrong everything that they think is

wrong and if you know something you're wrong about it and here's why oh and now he's starting to get a little bit possessive as well are you thinking that the the technology exists and that that these are made in the good old usa or did this technology find its way into the hands of our adversaries russia china well I think a lot of it I go back to what I've been writing about in my nazi series of books I wrote a book a few years ago that ufology loves to ignore it's called roswell and the right and it's about the roswell incident I pray that I never do anything that the UFO community loves to ignore I pray I pray that that is not a fate that I have of my career where I'm pissed off the ufo community ignores my book it's very strange that the UFO community is not also

willing to toss the nazis in with the roswell circumstances some of them do though that's true I feel like this guy is being a little bit um I don't know salty like you said yeah I mean like there that is a that is a conspiracy that I've heard before sure sure it's not something that's like verboten in conspiracy in space communities I have read a little bit of his book though and they made a movie called irons I read a little bit of that book and not irons guy the novelization of the movie irons guy um no it's it's just nobody reads my books that's like that's kind of where it's I relate yeah no um I have professional misgivings about uh more people could listen or the ufo community as well no oh no no no you would prefer just generally like I think anybody who

creates things like we could have a wider audience or I feel like that's what he's saying yeah yeah but he's more saying they don't respect me so on and so forth exactly um I I'm I just love this is this is kind of fun for me just because everything is everything's obviously a false flag right Nazi's obviously had a ET Giza pyramid is a death star all all of this stuff is true simultaneously but somehow these guys don't take it to a mean place like even for all their COVID denialism which is inherently mean and cruel it's not like they're they're not the type of person that I'm used to hearing talk about this where they almost relish like the the inflicting of cruelty or the expression of cruelty right like for someone like Alex it's less about the point and it's more about

getting to yell at somebody uh about how they're wearing a mask yeah and I think that is kind of a feature of a lot of the stuff that we see yeah yeah totally and for him you don't think it's it's not malicious he strikes me more as almost a hoarder of Nazi bullshit like instead of somebody collecting beanie babies he's collected lore and he's just hoarded it and so I don't know how much of it is anything about how he feels or thinks or even has like prescriptions or what we should do I don't think he takes any of his like here's what we should do seriously right all he's really interested in is hoarding all of this information none of it is true but he's so hoarded it over the you know it's just like he did with when he was a a theologian he hoarded all of this biblical

knowledge all of this history and and tighten he wants to be the dungeon master of uh Nazi space exactly he wants everybody to kiss the ring because he's hoarded the most knowledge yeah that's the way that he operates and so yeah in this situation it's just just ridiculous all right let's see uh oh you betcha you betcha asks Joseph how do you compare COVID vaccine passports compared to the long-standing requirement to have your kids get a vaccine to go to school or vaccines for yellow fever to travel which is an interesting point so you know in other words why are we getting all upset about and worked up about vaccine passports right that's a good question that's a really good question I got excited when I heard that question because

that would be a moment if that shows up on info wars where Alex is like I'm sorry we gotta let you go and hangs up real quick because it's a very solid question yeah I I honestly was listening to it and I got lost because it bored me well it's not great yeah no it's just like that's I'm all right yeah so I was thinking this is great because it's a reasonable question so the only way out of it is you got to take a big swing yeah you know I got really excited you gotta hit hard I got hit hard I simply don't buy the universality of vaccines I grew up up as many people in the United States did in a state where this was not a requirement in fact the only vaccine I've ever had in my life is the polio vaccine the Saban vaccine when I was

very young I've not had any vaccine ever since that so it's not an entirely universal experience nope no big swing at all he just says I grew up and I didn't have to get vaccines except for the polio one except for the polio one now why are we not talking about how the polio vaccine is also evil let's not worry about it he's already had it he got it was he was a kid we're not gonna deal with that sure that does beg the question are some vaccines good right but we're not gonna deal with that sure isn't that a real I was so disappointed I was so disappointed because his answer is just basically like well maybe if I had grown up in that culture I would understand what you're saying but since I didn't I don't care that's I wanted I wanted Nazis to

be behind it yeah yeah yeah it is a little bit of a swing and a miss yeah it's a real bummer it's a real bummer yeah um now they that is the interview with the conspiracy theorist equivalent of stepping on a banana yeah yes yeah we somebody should have thrown a pie in his face immediately following that yeah yeah put a little comedy in there come on guys um so now we get to some of the things that uh Pharrell uh is writing so he also has a blog and he posts stuff all the way all there and now have you looked at his blog oh yeah I've read a lot of it does he have any posts about how no one ever really dies um I don't think he has posts about how no one ever really dies but it is any rd the group that Pharrell was oh my god sorry oh my god sorry you're killing me

I'm trying to do this I'm not great at running a show and dealing with uh references this is what I have to put up with for you I recognize that and you've done it several hundred times true um so yeah they talk about uh one of the things that uh uh Joseph has written you you posted a blog I'm not sure how long ago it wasn't too long ago discussing some rather interesting formations that you've spotted on on mars first there there was some discussion about some ice formations on the planet and uh that led you to look a little further and and what did you spy wait wait wait you buried the lead yeah you didn't tell me this guy maybe has a telescope uh oh he does because that's enough to get him on project amulet unfortunately he

does not have a telescope he is talking about pictures posted from 2001 by the mars odyssey spacecraft sure and uh Richard sets this up as though this is a very important article and joseph's response we're not going to listen to because it's eight minutes long and all he's really saying is nothing uh he's saying stuff like hey it looks like it could be let me let me read you the caption so the pictures that Richard is talking about saying this article is very good let me read you the captions on these pictures quote when I look at this with my layman's eyes I'm not seeing much about Antarctic ice flows and a whole lot of weird stuff that borders on things that look like nearly perfect circular

whatchamacallits huh good you think that's good stuff yeah okay I mean look the scientist said that the moon rang like a bell true and so this seems like scientific language yeah that's true the doodads and whatchamacallits well it goes on uh quote and then there are lots of odd little bumpy things often neatly arranged in rectangles triangles and so on and then finally we have lots and lots and lots of rectilinear and structural looking things as somebody who spends a fair amount of time reading things in journals I'm used to things being described as bumpy little things bumpy little things whatchamacallits yeah okay so we're we're gonna have to cut your chest open and we're gonna perform some surgery on your who's it and then we'll take the what's a and

put it in your hoar and then you'll be good yeah you fell off uh this high place and the problem is that really hard thing inside your arm uh it's gotta it's gotta crack in it it's gotta crack yeah yeah yeah you gotta crack in your hard thing see all I all I hear is um an unfamiliarity with uh scholarly writing on your part uh unfamiliarity with research wow I mean that's that doesn't not sound very serious it doesn't sound like uh somebody should bring it up in an interview and be like now you just wrote this interesting thing and I mean you have an uphill battle whenever you're starting an interview and being like you wrote a blog yeah that alone is a tough sell and then when the blog is whatchamacallits it'll whatchamacallits you know that's not great

now I'm assuming you're asking how is it that they can pay for these whatchamacallits bumpy things and uh structural looking things who they the mr mr global annoyed as I think he likes to instead of saying globalists he likes to Dennis Miller it up with uh mr global annoyed or whatever you gotta avoid the global annoyed yeah yeah exactly there we go that one I got so yeah so now we're gonna talk about uh how everybody pays for it we were talking about Mars and a little bit about the secret space program you mentioned Catherine Austin Fitz earlier and the missing trillion something like 21 trillion dollars missing from the US government so is it your belief that that much of this money is being funneled into the secret space

secret space program for what the construction of deep space platforms and so forth I know Catherine Austin Fitz oh do you well not personally but okay yeah she's she comes up in various places yeah yeah um so uh she's a former uh hud official in the w administration and then when she left she created a brokerage firm uh and she started busy doing business with you guessed it the hud now what was going on is while she was doing the accounting uh for these contracts with the hud and the pandagon and that kind of stuff um stuff didn't look right it didn't look right at all things are going wrong and so Joseph is going to tell us what it is she found so if we go back to to let's say the bailouts in 2008 they pumped an enormous amount of money into the system or did they

oh I like that yeah well they so the bailouts yeah were for like upgrades to the moon basically now his theory I guess is that if the bailouts happened then inflation should have skyrocketed which okay uh that doesn't uh exactly work but that's fine um what he is completely ignoring is uh that the 21 trillion that we're we're talking about is not missing in the sense that it's like it was taken away and now it could be anywhere right right it's missing in the sense that the pentagon by design does not keep track of where it spends money it doesn't keep track of it it doesn't they you can't audit it you can't nothing happens they've tried to have so many accountants go in and just give it a shot right and you can't do it by design because if you know exactly how

much money you're spending you might get less well there's that and then also I would assume that there's probably some kind of like national security reasons why you wouldn't want that information being somewhere where people could possibly get a hold of it sure sure that I would I would assume that maybe there's some of that right but I even then you would have a budget and they do not right they just have money and then they spend it so even whenever they're talking about passing a military budget it it's just it's just there and they spend money and if they spend more than that budget the government's still gonna pay for it nobody cares right yeah right that that that's sort of like missing uh money is is the the same kind of uh thing that people talk about with like

there's this unfunded uh social security and totally totally it's the same misunderstanding of like it's not unfunded it's just the money isn't there yet because it's future exactly it's people paying into it will pay for it in the future you know like it's the same sort of semantical trick that people use to try and argue against any kind of government spending exactly now although in this case maybe there's more to it than oh no everybody who has looked into it everybody who has looked into the pentagon budget has like immediately like they they open their computer they look at one line and they raise a red flag up into the fucking sky and shoot flares and they're like this is not good yeah this is a problem it's it's it's

a it's a misunderstanding based on like the way it's being described yes but it's an actual this this is a problem for a different reason yes yeah you got it now joseph has a different theory than that so i've actually speculated um that somehow this money may actually be going off world yeah how i don't know sure sure i'm in yeah i just love that yeah i just love that he just not go this is the one time that he really doesn't go on further cool here's his response well um i think it's probably off world and i don't know how it got there now i should say i don't know the mechanics of this i got no idea right i'm not even gonna give you uh a guess no but i will say that i'm just speculating exactly he's literally just saying yeah i don't know it's probably off

world i might be in that empty moon up there i would love to be the guy doing this interview because my response would be like oh you're speculating cool oh oh are you oh interesting i'm speculating that money stayed on world now what we have reached an impasse we must agree to disagree yeah i mean it's just it's just that so often so what he always what is money in space um moon rocks no no no it doesn't mean anything oh yeah yeah no no intergalactic treaties recognize money all right yeah yeah otherwise how could we do business with the et if they don't recognize our currency i would suggest we don't but please go on um yeah and so that's exactly what joseph they with everything speculate yes the only difference between that clip and what he normally

does is the tricks he uses of being like i'm gonna flood you with names i'm gonna flood you with information because he's an incredibly knowledgeable guy he's hoarded all of this information right so he hits you with so much references all the time that people skip over the fact that most of his responses to questions are essentially i'm speculating here yeah i don't know anything i might be making this up yeah totally and it's it's it's just mind boggling how popular this guy really is it's nuts because he's boring and he doesn't have anything to say it doesn't seem like it and then this is the i believe this is the last clip because i just couldn't do this after this you uh one of your blogs recent blogs on giza death star dot com and this it's entitled

whoa how do you get that pre cognition and um as you point out it's a it's a wild article uh that i guess someone shared with you and it has to do with the scientists who have discovered that the heart and brain can respond to future events obviously before they happen tell me more well i find that very interesting because it it seems to present a physiological case that that the structure of the brain and the heart and and they're very very similar somehow represent or mirror the the fabric of the universe and the reason i find that very interesting is you can go online and look at pictures of galactic clusters and what they think are the plasma strands that connect them and then compare those pictures to actual neural mapping of neurons in the brain and they're

remarkably similar yes you ever see a fractal man yeah that's that's what i was i was listening to that just going supposedly i'm supposed to take you as an authority on even on this and you're telling me your response to precognition possibility is to say look at the pictures of the stars and people very similar yeah maybe we're little little bugs inside a brain yeah like the universe the universe is a big brain yeah and that's just another person or something fine man but come on come on you're supposed to be the expert in this shit and you cannot comment me with you know they look alike sure it's so disappointing to me and i just can't handle it i couldn't handle it past that point i was like i've heard too many times you just go oh it looks like a whatchamacallit

and then be done with your with your evidence when i tilt my head up i see the whatchamacallit and it looks like the doodad and uh yeah so precognition is probably true or not or whatever yep it doesn't mean anything no and he just keeps getting listened to as though he's an authority wearing his dumb indiana jones hat smoking his cruella deville cigarette and he's not even smoking and so on and so forth i feel like you shouldn't be mad at the hat in the affectations those are kind of charming do you think that's why he keeps getting invited probably yeah i would say so i might talk to him but i might be tricked yeah no he's uh he's not interesting enough to trick you uh i don't think you'll need to worry too much about that oh shocking that he has not been uh on project

camelot hey don't think he had well he was interviewed by not carry oh by bill ryan yes okay i remember seeing that okay uh and so i was going to talk about that bill is less fun he's much less fun yeah yeah that was not good it was done in a weird hotel room that looked like a motel six yeah that was their early aesthetic yeah yeah yeah yeah um so that is joseph peaferell the possible doctor uh definite shitbag and uh mediocre writer nazis did not factor into this as much as i expected no the problem with the nazis is that that is his like i guess mid-period work you know like now he's more into banks are killing everybody okay um and uh it was about 10 15 years ago that he was all into nazis all talking nazis all the

time before the era of podcasts exactly yeah a lot of available audio sorry there weren't there were there wasn't more nazi talk but it was teased but you know what we're never we never need more nazis i mean he grew up next to nazis so we could probably ask them sure yeah i bet they've got a lot of nazi content well this was interesting jordan yeah i thought it was fairly interesting i thought he was an interesting guy and i thought we should talk about him thanks for bringing this to my attention i will i you will so we'll be back i guess i think we will uh but uh until then i'm pretty sure we have a website yes it's knowledge fight dot com uh i thought we might have been on twitter at one point maybe at me be boo boo boo yeah and uh i think uh if you wanted to

you got it uh and uh as always uh i am neither neo leo uh dzx clark uh or dan freezing at all and now here comes the sex robots andy and chansas you're on the air thanks for holding so alexa my first name color i'm a huge fan i love your work i love you