Knowledge Fight - #563: June 2, 2021

Episode Date: June 7, 2021

Today, Dan and Jordan check in to see what Alex's response to the release of the Fauci emails was, and end up quite disappointed. It's mostly just untrue third person stories and fears about new fish.

I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys knowledge fight. Dan and George, knowledge fight. I need money. Andy and Kansas, stop it. Andy and Kansas, it's time to pray. Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. Hello, Alex. I'm a Christian color. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. Knowledge fight. Knowledgefight.com. I love you. Hey, everybody. Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. A couple dudes like to sit around worship at the altar of Celine and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Oh, indeed we are, Dan. Jordan. Jordan. Quick question. What's up? What's your bright spot today? Speaking of Celine. It's a Celine oriented

bright spot. Right. So one of the things that I've enjoyed over the course of my time living as an animal is that she finds new places that she likes to hang out trying to periodically. So, you know, like she was on the couch for a while. That was like where I'd always find her basic basic stuff sometimes on my bed. Of course, totally basic normal lately. She's found a new spot that she loves. Oh, she's going extra every single time I go to the bathroom. She's laying in the tub. Yes, that's how you elevate the form of laying in a weird stand. She's a bath cat now. Yeah, I like that. Very excited. It's gratifying to see sort of this commonality that we have this bond that you're both bath people. Yeah. I

mean, whether I doubt she wants as much water if any. I think none. I think none would probably be the best, but it's still fun. Yeah, it's nice to share things with a cohabitant. Sure. How about you? What's your bright spot? My bright spot today is I had the chance to break into Robert Evans's home and steal his manuscript for his book that is being released currently as a podcast or, you know, episodic thing. And I got to read the whole thing and it's very, very good. Well, that's great. I mean, I'm sure it'll probably be the final version that everybody else hears unless he takes my advice and rewrites it to be about Mako Shark Rampant. Right. Mako Shark Rampant must be represented. I mean, if you don't have

a Mark Richards reference in there, it's like, I guess you're still writing, but I don't know why. All art must contain Shark Rampant. Exactly. No, it's very, very good. And there are a few things he does to, you know, not glorify the violence that is just so great. It's called After the Revolution and it's really, really good. I recommend people read it. It's coming out, like you said, as like chapters in audio format and also in print. And yeah, you can find that pretty, just go to his Twitter. Yeah, he'll tell you. It's good. Yeah. So joined in today. We have an episode to go over as promised. Hey, an episode. Okay. So I wanted to check out the day after the Fauci emails got released, because to me, this seems like

the biggest bread-making opportunity of Alex's recent career. It shouldn't be hard. There's so many emails you could say whatever the fuck you want. No one's going to read them. No, no one's going to read them. So I checked in on June 2nd, 2021, Blackjack. Now all I'm doing now all I'm doing is just screaming Blackjack whenever I realize I'm not going to catch up. You just say all I've got is vocalizations. I don't even have words of the shot. It doesn't work that way. Okay, fine. It's goal tending. Fine. So yeah, I kind of thought like, you know, the first was when the initial release came out. And I thought, like the second, by then he's had the evening to come up with whatever bullshit he wants to say. He's got to be a

line. He's got to run with it. I was excited to see how he responds. Does he fail even at this? We will see. Okay. But first, we got to take a little moment to say thank you to some new wonks. Oh, that's a great idea. So first, Varnvlog. Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thanks, Varnvlog. Thank you. Next, use the daddy hole. Thank you so much. You are now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you. Next. This is a real name apparently, and I feel for this person. Alex Jones, you are now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Oh, thank you very much. AJ is what we'll call you. Next, Jordan and I. Thank you so much. You are now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. This sequel to the

King and I I'm writing in my brain. Next, I like this one. Post tribulation raptor. Thank you so much. You are now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. I like that one too. That's very good. Thank you very much. And Kit and Kiva. Thank you so much. You are now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. Kit and Kiva. Got a couple of technocrats in the mix too. First, Erica and Ian. Thank you so much. You are now a technocrat and a loyal servant of Queen Celine. May long she reign. Thank you so much. You are now a technocrat. I'm a policy wonk. Crocky, mate. That's fantastic. Have yourself a brew. How's your 401k doing, bro? All right. We got to go full tilt boogie on this Watson. All right. Let's just get down

to business. We ain't making that money off that heroin. Why are you pimp so good? My neck is freakishly large. I declare info war on you. Thank you so much, Erica, Ian and the loyal servant of Queen Celine. Yes. Thank you very much. I like how people are going with the loyal servant of Celine thing. I feel like we could spiral this out into a cult a lot faster than I would have it. But, but like, you know how the butter cream, what the butter cream gang is to regular gangs, we would create two regular cults. Do you know what I'm saying? I mean, this is already going to Celine's head. She's taken over my tub. That's true. This is a mess. Oh man. I wonder what her first commandment is going to be.

Uh, thou shalt stay out of my tub. Probably thou shalt give me gravy. I think it's probably actually the first good one. So Jordan, now it is come time to check in with some birthday shout out. Okay. Being born is a condition that leads to death. You can say that life is a disease that ends in death. If you're paying attention, that is a different drop. This is a theme that Alex has been hitting lately. Okay. So Sam. Happy birthday. Yeah. On the fifth over the weekend at a birthday. Thank you to Sam for having a birthday and Matthew got in touch and wanted us to give you a shout out. Happy birthday. Happy birthday. And this one's really delayed. This was back in May, I believe Steve. Happy birthday belatedly.

But again, life is death. Life is death. So birthdays are non birthdays too by that logic. Absolutely. Being born is a condition that leads to death. You can say that life is a disease that ends in death. Happy birthday. Happy birthday. So Jordan, I told you this is the day that Alex should be responding to the Fauci emails. Of course. And here's how he starts. This is after he played a little bit of like a goofy meme video about like a Scooby-Doo. It's like Scooby-Doo, but they take the bags off the ghost's head and it's Fauci and Bill Gates. It's a lot of fun. He's promoting that. Of course. The wheels have completely come off the COVID-19 operation, the globalists are in deep trouble. We put out that little dark comedy piece that you just saw

if you're a TV viewer, you just heard of your radio listener of that Spoof on Scooby-Doo where Fauci and Gates get caught running the pandemic, launching the operation. And so they go to prison for it. And we put that out a year ago. It was banned on Twitter and Facebook as fake news when it was obviously a parody, but based on real things they'd done. But boy, a year later, it's evergreen, isn't it? Meaning it's more important now than when we first put it out. Busted. Scooby-Doo just solved the COVID-19 mystery. It's got 200 and plus thousand views banned on video. I think it needs a lot more than that, doesn't it?

Wow. In fact, let's make it the featured video. Oh boy. This is important stuff. I was a little confused. I am very saddened by this. I was a little underwhelmed by this. Yes, yes. Being where we're going.

Not least of which because Spoof-y-Doo right there. Year old meme Spoof is what we need to really push for you to get this. Was that in one of Fauci's emails? Yes. The only thing that can bring us down is meme Spoof. That makes sense. Yeah, that works. So I've often sort of wrestled with exactly what it is about Alex's show that I think is bad. And I mean, obviously the answer is there's a lot of them.

But one of the things that is sort of central that makes it bad is actually what he articulates in this next clip. Because this radio slash TV transmission is not just your regular entertainment. It's not just your regular news program. This is a participation sport. And I think that censured report that you can find only at Band-Aid video needs to get shared, don't you? The Scooby-Doo. But this is a participation sport. That's kind of bad.

That's a bad way of looking at this stuff. When you, you know, I mean, granted, if you go to him under oath or in a deposition setting, he might say, I'm just talking about my feelings. I don't know about sources. I don't know about any of this stuff. You'd have to listen to the whole thing. You know, like, no, but when he's free and he's on air, this is not news. This isn't entertainment. This is a participation sport.

I'm trying to incite you to do something. Yeah, yeah. And not least of which, but that implies that information is a win or lose situation. Not things are real or not. You can win with information that's not real. It's a participation sport. It's not about finding what's real or what's true or what exists. It's about winning. Don't challenge your notions. Come up with things that you can misrepresent in the real world that reinforce your predetermined conclusions

and play like hell out on the field to make sure everyone else is forced to accept those things too. No, and if you change your mind, you're just giving up. You are. You can't give up. You can't be a quitter. I've watched the challenge. TJ Levin doesn't like quitters. He hates quitters. You can't throw in the towel on falsities. Yeah.

So finally, Alex does end up getting to the Fauci emails and does not cover them that much. Let me just hit the headlines now. In February of 2020, email that's public now, Fauci wrote face mask, not effective in keeping out virus. Later, he wrote, though, that it has a good psychological effect and even publicly said it's about respect, living in fear, keeping everybody scared. Total open and shut. You should be able to use any of this in court. There's cases all over the country where they're trying to make people still wear a mask in schools and businesses. Boo. So in the emails early on, Fauci did say that there wasn't good reason for everyone to wear masks.

It was because at the time they were unaware of a number of variables that existed with COVID-19. In an interview with CNN after the emails got released, Fauci was asked, quote, a lot has transpired since then. If you had to go back and do it all over again, would you tell her something different? Do you regret that? Here's his answer, which I think is great. Yes! Quote, let's get real here. If you look at scientific information as it accumulates, what's going on in January and February, what you know as a fact as data guides you, guides what you tell people and your policies.

If March, April, May occur, you accumulate a lot more information and you modify and adjust your opinion and your recommendation based on the current science and current data. So of course, if we knew back then that a substantial amount of transmission was asymptomatic people, if we knew that the data showed that masks outside of a hospital setting actually do work when we didn't know it then, if we realize all those things back then, of course. You're asking a question, would you do something different if you knew what you knew now? Of course people would have done that. That's so obvious. Right? That's a great answer.

But do you know what that is, Dan? That is losing the participation sport. No wonder we never win because he is learning and growing and then regretting actions from before. What he should be saying is, no, I'm so stoked all those people died because of stuff I didn't know that I told them. That's what I wanted. I just think that there's something to delineate there that it's not, I don't think it's regret necessarily. No, I understand. Maybe a hope that more awareness or more information had been known at a certain time.

Oh, of course. But based on the information that was available, that's what? The solidest recommendation. Totally. And then the thing about psychological stuff that Alex brings up. Sure. Best I can tell, that was something that was going on early on. I remember this.

This was when they were talking about like, so when there wasn't an awareness of the asymptomatic spread. Sure. Right. There was discussion of if you're sick, you should wear a mask. Right. But if you're not sick, you shouldn't. You don't really need to. Right.

But that puts a stigma on anybody wearing a mask. You got it. Because then now, if you wear a mask, everyone's going to assume you're sick. Exactly. And that could lead to people being disincentivized to wear masks when they should wear masks. No, I mean, leper colonies worked well. Everybody with leprosy was like, I'm definitely going to go right to this leper colony. I don't want to hide it and keep people from knowing that I'm a leper because, you know,

I'm treated so well in leper colonies. Yeah, the psychological benefit of widespread mask use is that you kind of make it easier for people who do are at a higher reason to wear a mask, according to the understanding at that time, to follow public health advice. Everyone, it works out better for everyone. If you destigmatize these things and make it so everyone just, I don't know. I have not read all of the Fauci emails. I've read all of the ones that like get pointed out as like, ah, ha, ha.

I've read a bunch of the ones that no one's pointing out. And I see a nothing here. Yeah. And I think of course it's a nothing. And I think Alex does too. Okay. Because here's what he does immediately instead of going more into these emails. And by the way, let me, let me hit the Fauci news here in a minute.

Let me, let me get back into all these COVID news next segment. And let me just tell you some of the other stuff coming up today. And then I'll go into each area of the news and tell you about the big guests we've got. But, but, but first I went over to my parents on Memorial Day, my dad grilled hamburgers and my mom made baked beans and double eggs. It was all delicious. We swam in their swimming pool, myself and my children and family, my wife. This is a great story.

And there's an old family friend that I've known since I was three years old. She's a great lady. And she came over to the house and I've been friends with her son and her daughter. More details. So I was about three years old again. And so when she tells me a story, it's, it's accurate. A story within a story. But I know her sister very well.

And I know her daughter very well. I guess I've gotten old, old enough now where, you know, my friends are 70 years old. But she has a granddaughter. Her sister does. My friend has granddaughters. So this is fucking annoying. I can't. I can't.

I stopped. I can't listen. I can't keep track of all the variables. There's so many relatives. There's so many people who don't factor into the story at all. I don't want this family trait. This is not the Bible. I don't care who begat, who get to the meat.

Well, you're going to wish for more setup when he finally gets to the actual story. Okay. Well, but I'm, so I'm friends with the family going way back and we vacation together. We camp together. So there are our best friends as a family and they live in Rockwall where I grew up. That is her sister does. And they're evangelical Christians. They're very nice people, very successful in business.

I don't care. Um, and one of the daughters, the granddaughter was arguing with her mother about issues and they weren't even that big an issue. But the mother said, Hey, why don't you go to your school counselor and ask them about some of your boyfriend problems? You know, we're not going to go pay for you to go to some counselor in town or whatever. It's not the one against the money. It's just, Hey, go to the school counselor.

We pay property taxes for this. So this is the same high school. She's a freshman that I went to for the first few years of high school. I moved to Austin when I was 16 and she goes into the school in Rockwall and it's a male counselor to a 13 year old girl. And she told me the whole conversation because her, her, her niece repeated it to her. She was shocked. And he says to her, well, don't you think your problem is you're really a man?

Uh-oh. Oh boy. So that this is, this is where the story is. I would like more preamble, please. Yeah, exactly. I would definitely like more preamble. I would like more preamble as opposed to this clearly not true story. Yeah.

What are you talking about? This is made up bullshit. Oh man. It gets so much. I'm going to be, I, what, how is it that you can think it's a great idea to give that much of a preamble to a story where all you want to be is just transphobic and mean? Right. You, you want to be, you want to be a real dick and you know, really try and demonize

a certain population. And in order to do that, the best you got is a third hand story. Maybe maybe a fan. You have something on the family tree that's a long branch away from you. That's for damn sure. Yeah. I would believe that there's a possibility that somebody who is in a school counseling position could, uh, you know, uh, if someone were to come to them with, uh, gender issues

or something could be empathetic and try and help them. Sure. Um, uh, but I don't believe this. She goes, excuse me. He goes, yes. You're having problems with, with this boyfriend here at school because you're really sexually confused. And she goes, no.

He goes, yeah, I think you're a boy. And she goes, are you joking? He goes, no, I want to get you in touch with a group. We need to put you in counseling. They'll pay for it offsite. You really need this right now. And she goes, no, I'm a girl. He goes, no, you're not.

And she pulls her shirt forward, looks down and says, no, I'm a girl. And says, I'm getting out of here. What? This is a fucking, this is that same meme where like the, this is a joke meme where the soldier is in the, the professor's like, liberals are good. And the soldier's like, I killed everybody in America is the best thing ever. And the liberal professor cries and he's like, you're correct all the time. This is a made up nonsense story.

Conservatives tell themselves. This is the boogeyman story. This is bullshit. I mean, quite frankly, if this happened the way Alex is describing it, she should own that school. She should absolutely, that guy should be sued into oblivion. This didn't happen because it's such an open and shut clear case of malfeasance by someone who works at the school. It's very easy to, to get to the bottom of. What a lying piece of shit.

And it gets worse. Oh God. She's not a troubled child. Had a boy for an issue. When you're 13, you don't want to so much talk to your mom, you know, who's the right wing, you know, Christian, but she's conservative too. So talk to the counselor and you don't even expect in Rockwall, Texas, the server of Dallas that you go there and a man is pushing on you. It went on and on for like 30 minutes. You are by the end of it.

He's like, you are a man. You are a man. You are a mayor. You need to go to this place. What an odd counselor. It's a whole agenda to destroy everybody. Men, women, everybody. It's sick.

It's how you depopulate. This is outrageous. And the only real question that I have is how much of this is the story that someone told him how to cook out. Yeah. And how much is just Alex is like, I'm going to punch this. Yeah. I was going to say it was a half hour. He was just yelling, you're a man.

This is this is it's either that or like he's half remembering Austin Powers or something. You're a man, baby. That could be. He might have taken some scissor and watch some old movies. What kind of lunatic would believe this ever? I imagine his audience. You're a man. It's a ridiculous story.

And then the then the entire school got gathered around. They had a big assembly. The principal got up and he's like, everybody chant. You're a man. You're a man. It's all the schools are just out of control now. They just brainwash all of these kids to scream whatever the principal tells them to as we all know children do. Yeah.

Jesus. I don't know. I don't know if things have changed literally entirely since I was in school. But I do remember the counselors at every school that I went to being the sort of folks who just listen and roll their eyes. Yes. I don't kind of believe you, honestly. The counselors are not really actively engaged in a lot. I mean, I'm sure they mean well for the most part.

Sure. It's a thankless position to be in school counselor. Of course. But yeah, I don't I don't remember them being all that much like working across purposes trying to make conclusions for you. I did find it weird when I was in third grade and the school counselor put all of us under the sorting hat and determined whether we were man or woman. That was a that was an interesting day. But I guess that's part of the counselor's job now. So this story, I mean, first of all, 100% absolutely not true.

Yeah. But it leads me to believe that Alex doesn't really want to talk about that much. He might think it's a little bit weak. Well, he read some of the email. Well, he didn't read him. His actual great grandfather's nephew. He knew him from back when they go hunting. He knew his son too.

Yeah. Now, his son, you don't even want to know about his son. That guy got caught, you know, with his diddler and the sheep on the other side of the things. But that's a different story. We don't need to talk about that. This story is about my great grandfather's nephew and how he had a son and his son was married to this woman. That was his first marriage and second marriage. That was a disaster.

But his first marriage, they got married again. It's like Grover Cleveland non non consecutive marriages kind of thing. Right. I don't know how much longer I can keep going. You're really letting me. You're leaving me out to dry here. I was kind of hoping you would get into how the second marriage ended up falling apart because the woman was in an importing, exporting business that was actually getting antiques and relics from foreign countries that were stolen and being trafficked.

They belong in a museum. Right. Right. But she was only doing that because of her second cousin who was really in debt to the mob. Right. Right. Right. What was the story about again?

Fauci's emails. It was great. It was a good story. So also not to do with Fauci's emails, but Alex has a new shirt that's really popular and Alex is going to plug this and keep it. Pay attention to who this shirt is popular with. Okay. I designed this shirt. I'm just telling you, not bragging.

And I think it's one of my better designs. Looks like an iron cross. The concept team, Robert and others over there. And it's just incredible. And I didn't intend for it to basically glow in the dark like a, like a tree frog can do some of the species, but it actually glows under these lights, under regular lights. We've got a black shirt, a green shirt and a cream shirt. And on the back, it says save the frogs in full wars.com. And on the front of the shirt, it's got the same little symbol over your heart.

And I'm telling you, we've had these shirts in for almost a month. We hadn't gone on sale till a big shipment came in because you get a test shirt and see if you approve it. And as soon as I wore this out, everybody goes, what's that shirt? I like that shirt. John, the boom operator, never talks about my shirts. He goes, what's that shirt? I love that shirt today. He wants one.

My son, I was going to shoot an ad for these yesterday. He works up here. He comes in my office. He's done this since he's been as big as I am for years. He's 18 now, but I thought he was 15. He's as big as I am. Now he's huge. He wears XXL.

And I said, Hey, you go to the warehouse down the road, you get one. You don't steal my shirt. So I'm telling you, this shirt's so popular that everybody's going crazy over it. I don't know why this shirt's so popular with my employee and my son. This is not a good market sample. You got some brand new market research. People who work for me like this shirt. Yeah.

People who work for me or I created. Listen, we can't keep them in stock. They're stealing them from us. You've got to buy them now. My son is stealing them. Yeah. But everybody's stealing them. They're stealing them.

So like it's just, they're going like hotcakes. I wore them out and everybody, including the people who work for me only and only the people who work for me, just love these shirts. They're just amazing. It's got a frog. The end. Yeah. So I think that this was just also a nice way for Alex to weave into talking about

some more of this, you know, like the, you know, the turn in the frogs gate. Of course. That's sort of his bread and butter when everybody loves to. Yeah. Yeah. The meme machine. People make memes out of this stuff. Memes, memes, memes.

And so I think he's trying to do a little bit more of that. They were cloning animals and humans before I was born. Hitler was cloning rabbits in 1944. They've been splicing animals and humans. It went on sale this week. What? Salmon that weighed twice as much as our salmon that are part insect and part asparagus for no reason.

Whoa. Salmon. I tried that. So Alex is talking about a new genetically modified salmon that's being bred by a company called Aqua Bounty. And it's actually not really new news. Like 2015, they got approval to, to like create these genetically modified salmon. Yeah.

And it's just like it came to market, but like almost nobody is buying it. Okay. So most people are like, I don't know. All right. I'm going to pitch them on a product real quick, the quilted puffer upper. All right. It's a puffer fish that also uses a paper towel as a sponge. Yeah.

So I'm going to say this right off the top here. I'm not sure that I'm okay with what's going on here for ethical reasons, but Alex is still way off on the details. The fish don't grow to twice their normal weight. They grow to their normal weight twice as fast. This is achieved by splicing into Atlantic salmon, a gene from Pacific Chinook salmon that make it so the fish produce growth hormone all year and share part of the year. Additionally, they added a gene from another fish, the ocean pout that essentially acts

as a stabilizing thing for the hormone. I've not been able to determine if the salmon is part of asparagus, but I do know that if you look into it, you can find some interesting recipes where salmon is paired with asparagus. Okay. All right. Alex might have done that. Wow. Let this cook out of his over the weekend.

A little butter asparagus, put some salt and pepper on there. Maybe, maybe braise it even. That's not a bad idea. I'm not sure I'm comfortable with this stuff entirely. I'm not sure. I'd have to think about it a little bit more. Maybe have a conversation with somebody about it. Yeah.

And apparently most food retailers in the United States agree and they aren't selling this salmon. Sure. This may be like one of those fun instances where I kind of agree with the conclusion that Alex has that like maybe, maybe this isn't cool, but I think that the way that he reaches his conclusion is childish, stupid, and a disservice to anyone taking these issues seriously. Yeah.

Ridiculous. Yeah. I mean, like part of my immediate reaction to that is as the science fiction fan I was when I was eight years old, where I was like, yeah, fucking splice everything together. Let's see what happens. And now that I'm an adult, I can realize that maybe that kid shouldn't be in charge of gene editing research. Sure.

So maybe we have to hold off on it. And one of the things that I am concerned about, obviously, and I don't know enough, I tried to look into this a little bit, but I don't know if I could even find a clear answer. How much does that growing twice as fast, like affect the life experience of these things? Sure. You know, because that seems like it could be hellish.

Yeah. And I think that I don't know. Or not. I don't know. Yeah. And then you unpack that. You open it up to the whole like, well, you're going to eat them anyway. She and then you get into.

Yeah. It's a mess. It's a mess. Yeah. I don't want to wait into it with a hard take. So Alex talks about these salmon and he jumps into another story about catfish in Japan. And I did not actually pull this clip. I regret to, one of my, one of my bungles.

But I want to talk about it a little bit because it is also fairly interesting. But again, the thing that Alex is, is talking about is nonsense. Is this like the Nigerian email scam? He got catfished by somebody in Japan and he's creating a story about it. I wish it was. No, he's found an article in Japanese about a Japanese science research project. And what they did is they found a way to make catfish female, essentially using something that they derive from soybeans already mature catfish are turned into females or in the

embryo, no matter what, it will be a female catfish. It is. I don't know if it's fully adults, but, but they are actual catfish. Okay, gotcha. This is another story about people trying to find ways to make fish bigger, quicker. Female catfish grow at much faster rates than males and in farming situations, often males are just thrown out since raising them to the point where they can be used for marketable product would cost more than would be brought in.

Researchers in Japan recently found that if they kept the fish in a tank that was full of water with different things dissolved in it, they could create a more female dense population. The use of actual female hormones is not allowed for animals being raised for human consumption. So the researchers explored isoflavin, just a chemical that's found in soybeans. They isolated a compound called Genestine, and this is derived from isoflavin, and they found that if you had a tank of water with 400 micrograms per liter, this resulted in

a tank of catfish that were 100% female. Wow. Yeah. That's wild. This is interesting. And it's obviously of concern to people who raise fish for a living, but I think that pretending there's a one-to-one parallel between humans and catfish is a little bit suspect, which is what Alex is doing.

So also, even if the catfish and human were biologically similar to the point where it was relevant, this would still seem to suggest that humans would need to swim around in and breathe water full of isoflavin to have this kind of effect happen. It's nonsense. This is, as all too often in the case, it's just an attempt by Alex to take a headline misrepresented and use it as a weapon against trans people. Sure. And to make the fact of trans people's existence into some kind of a conspiracy, because this

is what they're doing with soy. Right. Right. Right. All of that. Right. I don't know about this. This is bad.

That's... I don't want to... Mm-hmm. I want a big no on that one. Yeah. And it's interesting research from what I was able to find, and I don't think it applies to humans. But Alex tries to get a little bit closer by taking another soy related story this time

about monkeys. They also tested this on monkeys, three different species, and found that they make the same weird smiling face. They're aggressive and hateful loners, very unsuccessful, and tend to try to then kill females. You think I'm joking? Long term soy consumption makes monkeys aggressive loners, shocking study with possible human implications.

There they are. So not surprisingly, Alex has some details on this study wrong. It was done also, this study is from 2004. Okay. The headline he's reading is from a website called Herculeanstrength.com. Okay. Well, I'm already out. Already out.

Seems to be where he's pulling this from. I'm sorry. A men's rights activist name is kicking me out. Their tagline is become a demigod. There we go. That's all I needed to hear. Yeah. This is a bodybuilding site that's very into testosterone, and from what I can tell, they

have a pretty anti-soy editorial position. Interestingly, they also posted an article about that catfish study. So maybe Alex just hangs out on bodybuilding sites to get his health news. That actually does make sense. Yeah. So this is actually an interesting comparative study, but here are some of the things Alex fucked up. Mm-hmm.

One, there wasn't three species of monkeys. There were three groups, two experimental and one control group, but they were all male macaque monkeys. Sure. Two, all the stuff about the weird faces is made up. I think Alex is just taking that from pictures of the macaques that were on the bodybuilding website. Right.

They just put random pictures of monkeys. So they had weird faces, and he was like, they all make weird faces. They were not pictures from the stuff. Right. Right, right, right. Of course. Alex probably just thinks that monkeys look like demons or something. They were fucking getty images.

Yeah. Three, I have no idea how Alex is gauging whether or not these monkeys were successful, regardless of their soy intake. I don't know what the standard for that is. I forgot about the successful being part of it. Four, I don't see anything in there about killing females. The study itself did find that there appeared to be behavioral changes in macaques based on the amount of soy that they were eating in their diet.

Alex is focusing on the aggressive tendencies, but the study actually found that the opposite was more often the case. There was a 67% increase in aggressive behaviors, but a 203% increase in submissive ones. This is an element of the study that Alex is choosing to ignore because he's just going a different direction with it. The stuff about increased solitary behavior does match up with some of the stuff found in the study. Approximately, there was a 30% increase in time spent alone for the group that had a

higher soy intake diet. One important point to bring up here, though, is that there was almost no difference found between the control group and the low isofloven diet group. There were two experimental groups, one low and one high, and the control group and the low group were almost not, you couldn't tell the difference. In order for humans to mimic the levels of isofloven consumption and the high diet group that they were getting, for 15 months straight, it would be next to impossible for humans to do.

It would be the equivalent of humans swimming around in isofloven saturated water and breathing it in our little guilds. You're not going to be able to get a diet that's dense, like that controlled to get any of the kind of marginal effects that were found. It's interesting though still, whatever they're looking at, I don't know how conclusive it is, and I certainly don't know if it applies to humans. Yeah. I mean, to a certain extent, that does also have the flavor of a study that's like a

non-consensually changing diet of animals causes different behaviors. You know, like, I, no, I get it, but I don't, I mean, okay. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. I found it really interesting that instead of really getting into the Fauci stuff, Alex instead goes on all these weird sort of animal genetics news items that some are current

and some are old and they're all bullshit. I mean, aside from the transphobia, that bit's more fun. Yeah. I suppose. Because the email, emails, talking about emails is still boring and we're already said, we're still like rolling from Hillary's emails. You got a high bar with Hillary's emails. Yeah.

We're not going to beat Hillary's emails. I don't think, I don't think you're going to find anything. You're not going to be able to Podesta this. Right. You're not going to be able to pizza gate it. You need a pizza gate if you want emails to be exciting and there's no pizza gate here. Yeah. There's just like, I don't know.

Maybe we don't need masks. The conspiracy theorist community, I think, has burned out the pleasure centers of their brain. Yeah. They come from this because they went too hard on pizza gate. Yeah. Totally. Oh, well.

So, one of the things that we know from listening to various periods of Alex's career is that, what's the summer for? Rage. Let's hit some of these headlines. Right now, we'll get more into this after I cover the race war they're trying to trigger this summer. They got a good chance of doing it. We got to stop it.

That's coming up first 30 months to next hour. We got a summer of race war rage. Oh, boy. Oh, boy. Mm-hmm. For the 27th consecutive year, this summer, coming to every city near you, a race war, summer of rage. It wasn't always a race war, though, without-

No, that's true. There was just like financial collapse or like- Sorry. Sorry. Seven. The race war time. Well, I think the last like five or six have probably all been race war related in his mind.

But yeah, it used to be just kind of like it could be a number of different things. Yeah. And now it just feels sort of one note. It's just race war. Yeah. Anyway, Alex gets to talking about Fauci, but not about the emails. Instead, he talks about how he thinks there's a pretty good chance that Fauci is going to get hung.

That's fast. I think when I was listening to this, I feel like this clip is really a good isolation of why people listen to this show. Okay. This satisfies some emotional needs that these listeners have. All right. Under the Nuremberg Code, if you're tried and convicted, you get walked up to the gallows poll because the time is coming when people that do this stuff will be punished, not by

me, but by justice through the courts and I told you it would come a year ago and you see it starting. Don't you? The snowball is too big, too much energy. You killed too many people, Fauci Gates. You will pay. I see it in the stars. I see it in the cards.

I see it in the tea leaves. I see it in the bones, in the runes, my dear, your fall, your destruction. This is right. It is coming. I think people just have some sort of a gratification of hearing someone say that violence is coming to the people that they've been trained not to like. Yeah, it seems like it. That's very televangy, televangelist-y to a realty.

Also so false. Yeah. It was very, very fake. Yeah. Yeah. At least sinner in the hands of an angry God felt genuine, you know? Yeah. Who knows?

He doesn't have to try. No. So one of the things that I think is is always tough to suss out is like, who's on what side? We've had a lot of changes over the years. Yeah. Yeah. So I regret to inform you. Is Bill Marstill on the on the side of secret Patriots?

Yeah. No, you had a one day redemption where he was a secret tucker. All right. And now he's back to being evil. Oh man. I hate it when shows do that. Listen. I don't want to talk about celebs.

Okay. I want to talk about geopolitics. Yeah. Okay. Now we know that Alex thinks the literal devil is behind his enemies. Yes. So that must mean that all of the people who are on one team, they're with the devil. Right.

And then the people around the other team conceivably with God. Yeah. They try and avoid moral gray area. It's very complicated. Certainly. Yeah. And we did have the UK was looking good when Brexit was going through, but apparently Boris Johnson is a trader.

Sure. Yes. There was that. And so now the they're up in the air. Yeah. So it's unclear where the UK is going to fall. Right. Right.

Also, we should not forget that the Queen hit the dictator button. I forgot about that. Like a year ago. Jesus. There's so many spinning plates these days. So many spinning plates. Yeah. The Queen is a secret patriot.

I forgot about that. I would like to, I would like to know if the Pope is still in jail. I need to know, did he, did he change his ways? You know, or is the, because the Pope hasn't said like new things that are more conservative than they were before. So is the fake Pope even like an actual clone who's just unable to break the programming of being the same old Pope? I need to know this.

I don't know. We'd have to ask Steve. Anyway, here are the teams. Okay. We have a, we have a layout of who's who's good, who's bad. All right. And boy, it's not surprising. Okay.

Because it's the Islamics with communist China, the EU, Hollywood, the blue cities, the blue states, the UN all against America and Russia. Wow. And that means the American people and the Russian people and the Brazilian people. Okay. So you got Brazil in there. Wow. It's the Russia, the United States and Brazil.

Jesus Christ. Versus everybody. And verse, a lot of people inside the United States, I would say about half the country at least. I would say that it doesn't get more above the left, right paradigm than that. That's about the most of, uh, here's, here we, here's what we got going on. Okay. We've got everybody and then we've got Russia, United States and Brazil.

Definitely not the new axis of evil. That would be a crazy thing for someone to say that these countries are very similar right now to Italy, Germany. Okay. Yeah. I, I find it interesting, I mean, not, not the sort of other countries that Alex feels kinship with. Sure.

That doesn't surprise me at all. No, of course not. Those are, those are like his guys. Yeah. Yeah. But I find it interesting the way he, it's the rest of this is so stateless. It has to do with the blue cities, the blue states, the Hollywood, and like so, so much of it is like half of this country is going to have to go down if, you know, we're going

to be able to make this, the America, make it America again. Yeah. I mean, it's honestly, I, I serious question. That I mean, obviously you can't answer, but if MBS sent Alex like a letter that was just like, Hey, I'm a secret Christian. We're not going to prosecute Christians in Saudi Arabia anymore. He would totally be like, I love MBS now, right? Yes.

He would have to. Yes. He loves what MBS does. Yes. He's even defended killing Khashoggi. I think that even if MBS didn't go that far, yeah, I think that if he just made an overture and said, you're right about the globalists, I will, I will not join your religion, but I will follow you against the demonic globalists or whatever.

Yeah. Alex would be like, yeah, Saudi is pretty cool. I, you know what? I heard a lot of stuff about, about them in the past. And it turns out that was all totally, that was a sigh. You know, I didn't like Putin before, but now, you know, I've seen the Putin is a good Christian. I might, I might have spent a long time back in 2003 talking about every day about how

evil Putin was. Never taken back any of those comments or suggested that what I said was not true. Sign up. Just don't care. So Alex spends an entire segment talking about China and it's exhausting because it's all kind of the stuff that we've gone over in the past. Yeah. Like his grievances about Shanghai.

Right. Right. Yes. And what have you? Of course. And this is how it ends. Apparently China has double crossed the globalists. Okay.

Okay. Double crossed the globalist on multiple fronts. They're not doing the one-child policy. They're, they're, they're, they're expanding their military, not just dominating economic systems and Biden can't serve them enough when he announces, Hey, we won't build any of our own batteries. We'll only buy it from China and we won't let Americans mine and I'll shut and now Biden announced a plan to shut down 30 plus other big pipelines, giving the states the power

to shut down existing pipelines and to give Whitmer the power to violate a US treaty and shut off the main pipeline to the Midwest out of Canada. I mean, we are under shot, come attack. So of course he's running to Tulsa a hundred years ago. People killed each other. Hundreds dead. Let's have a race war. How obvious is this?

I'm going to go to break. We're going to come back. Please don't forget. We're extending the store wide free shipping and double patriot points until Sunday. DNA force plus. Yeah. Apparently Alex is pretty mad about Biden going to Tulsa to celebrate or pay respect to the anniversary of the Tulsa massacre.

Yeah. Weird. Yeah, I'm surprised that Alex would not want to to have that talked about or or even mentioned or recognized or even have it exist within the records. Now, you know what's weird? Next year, Trump scheduled a campaign rally in Tulsa on June 19th, which understandably seemed a little not great because June 19th is Juneteenth, which is the celebration of the ending of slavery in Texas, which is the last state where it was still taking place.

Now, Tulsa is the site of the Tulsa massacre, which occurred on May 31st and June 1st in 1921, when mobs of white people destroyed the Greenwood district in Tulsa, the largest concentration of black wealth in the United States. So obviously the combination of Trump going to Tulsa on June 19th seemed like a little bit of a and not just or not just mobs of white people, organized mobs of white people with the fucking military on the side. So yeah. So Trump ended up rescheduling that event after some very understandable backlash.

But he did say in a subsequent interview, quote, I did something good. I made Juneteenth very famous. It's actually an important event, an important time, but nobody had ever heard of it. Wow, man, Alex didn't have any problem with any of that. But for Biden to visit the Greenwood district and pay homage to the Tulsa massacre, that's a huge problem, apparently, because I guess I don't know. I mean, I think one of the main reasons that it is such a huge problem for conservatives and why they absolutely do not want to discuss it whatsoever is because it is the marriage

of two things that they love the most at cross purposes, which is white people and wealth. And they can't say that it's OK for the wealth to be wiped out without saying that it's their giant fucking racists. And they can't say that it's not OK for white people to murder on mass because they're giant fucking racists. So they're just trapped in this space of like, you can't earn your way out of racism in America. That's what they're saying.

And that's their message is always like, no, you can pull yourself up by your bootstraps. No, the real message is if you do that, you will be murdered and slapped down again because that's what they need. And one of the other things, too, not to not to totally jump off subject. Oh, no, please. When when he was talking about these pipelines and stuff, shouldn't his politics be that states can opt out of my life? Why is he mad that Biden is saying that states can not participate in public?

Should that? I don't know. There's just no. There's just nothing. I don't understand how that wouldn't be like exactly what he would. Like if Trump did that, he'd be like, fuck, yeah, everybody needs to have the power in the states. I don't know.

So there's a big news breaking in the middle of the show, and that is that someone in China made a comment. Oh, watch out. So when you see the Communist Chinese come out in their official publications, say, if you investigate the lab, we're going to nuke you. That's what they said today. And China paid American media outlets, millions to publish propaganda, we're going to list those groups for you when we come back, who the traders are.

I definitely don't like the idea of someone airing a list of traders on their show, especially Alex, someone who has a participation sports philosophy towards his show. Now, historically, listing traders is usually a good idea. It's not. So this story about China paying for articles in some Western outlets, that's not news. That's an old story about an English language paper in China controlled by the government called China Daily. They paid to have articles placed in outlets, but all those would have had to have an alert

informing readers that this is paid content. Sure. I don't like it, but it's definitely not the smoke and gun and like huge deal that Alex is making it out to be. Sure. As for the nuclear war thing, Alex is lying. It's true that there's a Newsweek headline that says, quote, China state media says country must prepare for nuclear war with US after Biden asks for COVID probe.

But that's not a statement that's meant to convey a causal relationship between the two things, which is what Alex is reporting. He's saying that the Chinese government has said that they'll nuke us if we investigate the lab. But that's not what this article is saying at all. And this article is his primary source. Right. Right.

Right. The article is about comments made by Hu Zhijun, the editor of the Global Times. The comments had to do with how there was growing tensions in the US-China relations, and that, quote, China sees much of America's actions and comments to be an encroachment on its sovereignty. Who wrote an op-ed that essentially boiled down to this, quote, the number of China's nuclear warheads must reach the quantity that makes US elites shiver. Should they entertain the idea of engaging in a military confrontation with China?

The comments were an escalation and an arms race kind of thing that I think sucks, but they also weren't comments that were being made as a threat if we investigate the lab theory. Jesus. Yeah. That's nonsense. But it's right in line with Alex's narratives that he's been building. So that's going to take precedence over the reality of the situation that, honestly,

should not be thrilled about. I mean, wild, wild to have the headline be Chinese man says Reagan had a point. You know, like, I don't, I don't understand. Yeah, of course, historically, you should have more nuclear weapons to keep the United States from invading you. I don't want people to have any. I don't want nuclear weapons at all. No.

Absolutely not. Absolutely not. Yeah. It does make sense for a power in the context of like heightening tensions to be like, we should make it so no one will attack us because it looks like some Americans on their fucking bullshit again. Yeah. Everybody's everybody's pumping out Iraq war propaganda about the oh, Jesus, I understand

that. Yeah. I would prefer we take another direction with it, of course, deescalate things on a larger scale. But I get that thinking and that's the thinking that is behind that, that comment, not that if you look into the lab will nuke you. Yeah, no, no, no. It's so ridiculous.

No, it's global real politic that again, Kissinger was like, we got to have this, you know, and this too is why like listening to Alex is kind of a dead end because there is a reality that you should be aware of in this Newsweek story, you know, that is these kinds of conversations are happening. Yeah. People are making comments, be it in official outlets or in op-eds that are like, we should bulk up our defenses to make sure that no one attacks us. Sure, sure, sure.

That's fucked up. It doesn't necessarily reflect a government policy, but it is something that is worthwhile. Yeah. If you listen to Alex, the way that this story is going to be presented to you is the Chinese are so afraid of us investigating the Wuhan lab that they will nuke us if we do it. And that is a dead end because what do you do with that information? It's not true. Nope.

It's ridiculous. No, it's just you saying, see, they're so overreacting to it, it's obviously true. That's all. He's not asking a question. He's not saying anything. What he's really doing is they wouldn't, hey, they wouldn't act like this if they weren't the cause of the Wuhan lab leak, the end, you know, basically, it's proof. So on this episode, Alex is really obsessed with the interview that Judge Joe Brown did.

And I don't care. No, no, no, you cannot. The only, the only point of it is that Judge Joe Brown thinks that Biden's a racist and very Joe Brown. I used to watch Joe Brown a lot. Did you? Judge Joe Brown? Yeah.

Because it was on during the day and me and my friends would sit around, get high, watch judge shows. And I love Joe Brown because he always looked like he just got up from a nap because he was so annoyed by everybody in the court. He was very annoyed by everyone. It's like, you mean to tell me I liked his demeanor quite a bit. Okay. So but here's my.

Okay. So Judge Joe Brown says that Biden's a racist, right? If Judge Judy comes out and says Biden's not a racist, what show do they go on? We got to go to Judge Mills Lane. Obviously. My bad. My bad. That was too obvious.

I mean, look, no, no disrespect to Judge Joe Brown, he is a judge in all, but sure I think when it comes to, was he a real judge or is he, I don't think you can be on those shows and not be a real judge. I think you have to be a judge. I don't know if that's true. That might not be true. I feel like that is definitely not. Judge Judy is a judge.

She is a judge. Right. Oh, that's where my judge, Judge Mathis is a judge. Maybe Judge Joe Brown is a real judge. I think he is. How do you get to be a judge and then get on TV? We should explore this more, but that sounds really fucked up to me now that I think about it.

So they've been practicing judges for on the bench for a long time and then they get a TV show. That seems wrong. It seems strange, but it also is a good career path. You're not wrong. Okay. Judge Joe Brown. Is he?

Judge Joe Brown. Real judge? Question mark. Judge Joe Brown is a former American lawyer and television personality. Aha. Oh, he is a former Shelby County, Tennessee criminal court judge and a former arbiter of the arbitration based reality show Judge Joe Brown. Okay.

So yeah, he was he was formerly a judge in Tennessee. All right. Okay. Yeah. I would imagine that if you're ever on one of those shows, you're not an actor. Yes. That's I think that's where I got confused. I think I'm not moonlighting as a I think there's a part of me that like when I filled

out my Chicago ballot and I was voting for judges, I was then in the that connected to my mind. Well, obviously I was voting for Judge Mathis or Joe Brown at some point. No, I think yeah, I think it's a good sort of late career move. If you're someone who has some charisma and totally can can make court hearings fun. Absolutely. So now we will need a judge to settle this next issue. Okay.

I was escalating this whole thing about Fauci getting hung. Okay. And now it's going to happen in public. That's not good. And Fauci and Bill Gates are being destroyed as we speak. I told you months ago, they will be politically annihilated bare minimum and I I just go with my gut and the analysis. I think they're going to go to prison.

I think if we work hard, we expose them and we're diligent, we pray, I believe they'll be convicted. And it's someday I believe we'll watch them both hung in public. I really do. They launched this attack with Communist China. You know, you think that's strong rhetoric and it's not Communist China just threatened to nuke us if we keep investigating the Wuhan lab. They did this on purpose with the UN.

See? Wow. See how that information ends up being used. Yeah. Yeah, it's silly. Do does everybody know that that like now in the in the modern world, when when they see like public hangings in a TV show or in a movie or in real life, those are the bad guys.

The good guys are never doing public hangings. Hmm. Yeah, it seems rare. Yeah, that's fucked up. Yeah. I mean, look, I struggle with this because on the one hand, if anything that Alex was saying were true, these people are enemies of humanity. That's true.

No, you're not wrong. You're not wrong. That's true. I mean, if they are wiping out millions of people, that is true. I do think that you should probably, you know, hangable offense. I think so. Sure. I think that there's a narrow area where death penalties might be maybe we go and genociders

can get the death penalty. I'm fine with that. I feel like that's inarguable as a as a relatively fair solution. I don't know about the public spectacle part. I certainly don't think that would be healthy. Yeah, but I also, but if you, but if you didn't do that, everyone would come up with conspiracies about how it didn't really happen. They're going to come up with.

That's a good point. JFK is still alive. According to some people, fine. His head blew up on TV. Look, we're not going to be able to negotiate this. We don't have to. That's a good point. We don't have to because Alex has indicated that he's okay with a lesser punishment.

Okay, good. You have to say it. He's firm. Towards Bill Gates or Fauci that could turn them into heroes. That could turn them into martyrs, no vigilante violence. I want them arrested. I want their records brought out. I want public trial and then I want a jury to find them guilty because the evidence is

overwhelming and I will take life in prison. They are incredible villains and so I don't think execution would turn them into victims. Maybe let them spend the rest of their miserable lives on public display like you put animals in a cage. There we go again. I want us in a cage. I want us to live in a cage. How about we throw Joe Biden in there with him?

All right, man. Okay. All right. What a gracious guy, though. He's offering life in prison. It is nice to say, look, look, this requires a public hanging gun. God's justice demands a public hanging, but we will keep you in a dog cage for the rest of your life and have people walk by and spit on you.

Yes. Yeah, it'll be great. This is what happens when you release plagues. We put you in a box. Yeah, that's about right. So Alex has the hodge twins on who are a couple of twins as their name suggests. Yeah. Yeah.

They are conservatives and judge John Hodgeman, a judge, never mind as a joke. He used to be. So hodge twins, they, they have some bad opinions and here's one of them. Black people are so upset about Christopher Columbus. You don't want to celebrate that. But why y'all want to celebrate something that happened over a hundred years ago? They're talking about the Tulsa massacre. Yeah.

The only reason why they want to celebrate these things is because they're asking for something. And they think Joe Biden and the Democrats and people on the left is actually going to give them reparations or restitution. They're not going to see any of that. They have not till this day, black folks, black liberals have woken up and realized what these people are doing to them. They're using them mentally enslaving them for a vote.

That's the only reason why Joe Biden's there. Yeah. They're actually asking for reparations for what happened in Tulsa. There's only like two survivors left from that. Yeah. And I say, fine, give them, I mean, sure, the state or somebody should try to help them out. But the point is, is that he's there to open old wounds and distract from what he's doing

to all Americans shutting down the pipelines. Now, Trump Trump wasn't opening up old wounds last year. No, no, no, no. He was doing that. That'd be weird. Yeah. This time. Oh, Biden always opens up old wounds.

I think that it's horseshit that Alex is saying, like, yeah, of course, give them reparations. Why? Why? Why, Alex? Why? Yeah. You don't believe that for a second.

No. You're saying that because, you know, that like saying, don't sound like shit. Yeah. Absolutely. Now, a baseball should go whizzing right by his head. Just as a, like, warning shot. Do it again, man. Do it again.

Yeah. Claim that you're fine with giving some people reparations again. Feel that break through the air. Now, one of the reasons that the Tulsa massacre in particular is something that is brought up in the conversation about reparations is because it was not just an attack on people who was an attack on black wealth. Exactly. And, you know, one of the reasons that some of these issues have rippled through our

country's history so resonantly is because of the exclusion of nonwhite people from participation in the market. Yeah. And generational wealth. Exactly. And this is a, that was a giant attack on exactly that. Yeah. And I think pretending that you don't understand that is a little bit silly.

Yeah. And I think if you're a commentator, then you're going to come around and say that people only remember that event because they want something, they want to guilt Biden into giving them something. I think you're a piece of shit. I think that's a shitty opinion. And that, that like idea of Alex even being like, well, you know, there's two survivors. So yeah, they, the government should help them out or something like that.

That's absolutely missing the point of wiping out generational wealth. You did. There are not two survivors of that massacre. There are countless. countless survivors of that massacre. Yeah. And that's, that's the point that is a point. Yeah.

Well, not, yeah, not the point. Apologies. Yeah. Yeah. That's the point that he's avoiding specifically and kind of like detracting from is what I was trying to say. Well, at the same time, confusingly saying that it's okay to give something to those two people.

Right. Which again, I would just ask if I were, anyway, if I were in a position that these hodge twins are in, I would just be like, why, yeah, please say why. Tell me why. It's not okay. In other circumstances. Absolutely. So, so these people, these people had something taken from that, right, right.

And so they deserve recompense in some form. Correct. Okay. Let's take this a step further. I don't understand. There are more steps. Let's not. Hmm.

So there's been a lot of talk about how there's a coming in indictment for Trump. Sure. Trump's going down. Sure. Roger Stone's been playing into this quite a bit. Alex has been warning people that he's going down on the 4th of July. No, I thought he was going to be reinstated. No, no, no.

That's the, maybe who knows, maybe they'll indict him and magically like a, like a Phoenix rising from the ashes who will become president. That could be. Maybe. Maybe the Democrats just want a third go at impeachment, you know, like they fucked up the first two real bad. Third tries a charm. Third tries a charm.

However, the hodge twins, they do not think that this is real and they think it's a distraction. I don't, I don't think they're going to get an indictment on him. I mean, he's the most vetted president we've ever had. Everybody's investigated this man. They have found nothing. I'd be shocked if they found anything. Yeah. I think more than anything, Alex, it's just a distraction because they're doing the audits

in Arizona in Nevada. That's what they're really doing. It's just a distraction what Biden's doing in Tulsa. I mean, everybody on mainstream media on the left is just lost their minds talking about when they started actually auditing the results. I'm like, I don't understand why they will be so upset unless they're trying to hide something. Right.

If, if you're so sure that Biden won that election, honestly, why don't you let everybody go in out of the result and just show and tell everybody that's on the right how stupid and naive they are. I mean, you have a golden opportunity to show everybody in America how lost Trump supporters are. Yeah. Show that Alex. The results he won here.

He won here. He won here, but they don't want to do that. They don't even want to investigate the results or audit because they're scared what's going to be uncovered. I mean, that's just a dumb argument and you can, you can take the exact idea and just place it wherever you want with the story that you've written for yourself. You know, a good example of this, whether or not there's any truth to it is, oh, why, why won't Trump release all of his financial information if he's, oh, he has to be afraid

of what's in there. And that's a story that you can write for yourself. It may be more likely than this whole election was a fraud or whatever, but it's, you know, pretending that you know what would be found if someone looked at something and that's why they're not looking at it. Sure. Sure. Is just a dishonest kind of game.

Yeah. I mean, the thing about that though is it's eminently reasonable from what we do know is that if you really went through just about any billionaires, no, any billionaires finances sooner or later, you would find some crime. I understand that. Not like, not like, maybe not a big crime, maybe not nothing, but you'd be like, there's no way that you can get to be a billionaire without something along the way being fucked up.

I understand that. And I think that you could make an argument for what you might expect to find, but I don't think that you could argue definitively in the way that they're arguing definitively. This is what you would find. You would find that Trump won the election. And what we know from history about elections though is especially this one, it is really hard to cheat the entire country. Yeah.

It's really tough. Maybe impossible. Yeah. Also, this same pattern of why won't you let everyone investigate this? You must be afraid of what's underneath. Sure. If you were just to apply that to Trump, they'd be like, no, no, no, he can't have it because XYZ.

Exactly. There'd be a hundred reasons why this is not the same thing. Yeah. It cares. And your, your bullshit argument of like, they have a real opportunity to make conservatives look stupid here. And you're like, no, get the fuck out of here. Yeah.

That's trolling. Yeah. Shut the fuck up, you dick. Speaking of trolling. I agree. I don't go off color. I go off people. But wouldn't Alan West make a great governor of Texas?

Oh, hell yeah. Oh my God. Just after this episode was broadcast, Alan West resigned as the chair of the Texas GOP. It was probably at least partially due to fallout from him attending and speaking at that QAnon conference last week where Mike Flynn said that there's no reason that what happened in Myanmar shouldn't happen here. He didn't serve for chair as long for a long time. And in his time in that position, he changed the GOP of Texas's slogan to we are the storm,

which is about as overt a reference to QAnon as you can imagine. Wow. Alan West has a terrible, terrible choice for a leader, but given Alex's embrace of Marjorie Taylor Greene lately, it seems like he's kind of seeing the political utility of seeing these folks as like a new tea party. I think that you might you might expect to see more of that 50 50 shot Cornell West could become governor of Texas by accident. Like that is honestly, they don't know.

They don't know. So Alex wants Trump to get back on social media and that's something that they spend a good bit of time talking about. Everything was better for us when people were constantly talking about Trump. And that's the same argument that they make about the media saying like Trump is going to get indicted. Trump is driving ratings. He's good for ratings.

So they talk about Trump. You know, you're doing the same thing, right? You know. Yeah. So anyway, they want him to get back on social media and the Hodge twins have interesting theory as to why that hasn't happened yet. He doesn't even have social media. He has two million followers on GAB.

If he joined GAB tomorrow and get 10 million, the site works good. They've gotten the bugs out. We need to get a message to Trump. I don't have any stock in GAB. I have a site on GAB, hundreds of thousands of followers, but he's the platform he needs to get on these other platforms now. He needs to be on rumble. He needs to be on GAB.

He needs to be out there instead of, I know for a fact, there are people around him that are quietly sabotaging him. Right. Yeah. And big text behind it. That's why they ban him from every social media platform there's out there because they don't want him to be able to communicate with other consumers and other like-minded Americans.

Maybe he's, I thought he had some kind of social media platform in the works. Maybe that's what he's waiting to let everybody see and not somebody else's platform because you know Trump, he wants his own thing. So Trump had claimed he was going to roll out his own social media site, which ultimately turned out to be a blog on his website that was so roundly mocked that it was taken down permanently less than a month after launching. It was so poorly done that Trump's staff have had to claim that there's a different social media thing he's working on.

And this actually wasn't an embarrassment after all and it's a mess. Wow. Yep. It was the blog version of the four seasons, my friend, that's how it was. So I mean, this is it for the episode. And like honestly, he just interviews the Hodge twins for the rest of his time and then Gerald Salenti takes over. It's like, this wasn't about four cheese emails.

I would say, but his emails, Alex. I mean, wow, that is about as well. I mean, I, I suppose that's about a stirring and admission of the emails being a giant nothing as you could possibly get like because they don't, it doesn't even need to be true. It's never needed to be true. That's the way you can lie about any of it. And they're still just like, I don't think this one has legs. That's I feel like that's what people are coming to the conclusion right now.

It does feel like a big whiff. And you know what? Here's the thing too. Like the way that it feels like a big whiff from everything that I've been able to tell the things that I've read. Sure. Alex is a response here. Sure.

That's a real problem because there should be something in there that's really damning if any of the stuff that Alex was saying is true. Yeah. Like there should be something that is fucked up. There should be like a message between him and his Chinese handlers. Totally. Totally. Because then what you're saying, like the, okay, okay.

So you got all of his private emails now. They were leaked, man. You've got all this information. This is the proof that you are looking for and none of it backs up what you're saying. So you then have to say like, no, no, no, he's got a secret email address that he can and it's like, then, then what's the point of ever leaking anything if it doesn't prove what you like? And then you're just going to say it's secret that it goes back to the goddamn hodge twins

being like, you've got a real opportunity to prove that conservatives are idiots right here. You guys have been doing it for us for so many goddamn years. Yeah. If you have this giant tronch is a word that Alex loves to use. It's a great word. In his defense. Of emails that have come out that, you know, you'd think would be something that you could

use to build the narratives that you've been building forever. Totally. I think that this would give you some kind of an insight into what was going on instead. So much of the emails that I've read are very indicative of learning along the way and like the changing awarenesses and like at the beginning, people did not know a whole lot and it, I don't know, it kind of weirdly reinforces reality. It, I mean, from what I understand, it is really like reinforced my, I suppose, confidence in the people who are doing this, because at every point in time, you know, obviously

looking back, you would say, obviously, yeah, if we knew everything, we would have done it differently would be handled it better, duh. But the way that you see the progression there is exactly how you would want people to do as we get more data, we're finding out whether or not this data is useful or non-useful. We're taking the data that we can use and we're using it to refine our process. We're taking that refined process, putting it back into the system, getting useful and non-useful data and then refining it still further. And it's like, that's exactly how I want people to work.

That's how I want like science to work, because it is how it works. At no point in time did you hear anybody just making these giant guesses. I did. Oh, yeah? Alex. Yes, exactly. At no point in time in the emails was it like, hey, we don't know anything about hydrochloroquine and or how it works just yet, but let's just go ahead and say it's great.

You know, like it didn't happen like that. And the fact that it happened for other people like that should give you giant realizations that they're dumb, but that won't happen. Probably not. Because it would be hard. You'd have to think. Yep. Anyway, it was kind of a bummer because I was hoping for a little bit more stuff to

dig into as opposed to just new salmon. Yeah. It's a bummer that you read all those emails. You got a lot of ammo in your gun for a werewolf that ain't coming. To be clear, first of all, I love that metaphor. That was a good metaphor. I'm surprised. I was off the dome.

Yeah. It was nice. But I also like, I didn't read all of them, but I read enough to get a very general sense of what a lot of these are and what the people are talking about in the conspiracy sites. And Alex is just doing nothing here on the second. Bummer. Yeah. Maybe later you'll get to it.

Maybe Leo Zagami will come up with something for him to work with. Let's hope. Let's hope. I need a big swing out of these emails because this isn't even a check swing. This is a whiff. Yeah. And this is also still a little bit like on the shorter side of an episode. And we're still getting back adjusted after vacation.

I'd not been on vacation for a very long time and I did not realize some of the sleep disturbance. Oh, man. Some of the, some of those challenges and so I appreciate folks giving us a little bit of, you know, I understand. This is only like hour and 15. We'll get you on Friday. We're getting in.

We're going to get there. Come on now. And we'll be back for that. But until then, Jordan, we have a website. We do have a website. It's knowledgefight.com. Yeah. We're at Twitter.

We are on Twitter. It's that knowledge underscore fight. And I go to bed, Jordan. We are on Facebook. You can tell the shines. If you could, please find a local charity or bail fund in your area to help out people doing God's work. Yep.

We'll be back. But until then, I'm Nio. I'm Leo. I'm DZX Clark. I'm Daryl Rondis. I am part asparagus. Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding.

Hello, Alex. I'm a first time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work.