Knowledge Fight - #568: June 19, 2021

Episode Date: June 21, 2021

Today, Dan and Jordan discuss an "emergency broadcast" that Alex Jones put out this weekend.  In this installment, Alex rambles about how January 6 was a false flag, and welcomes back to the show a guest who has turned lying to Alex into a sport.

I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys knowledge fight, then enjoy knowledge fight, need money, stop it, Andy in Kansas, Andy in Kansas, Andy in Kansas, it's time to pray, Andy in Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding us. Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're couple dudes like to sit around and worship at the altar of Celine and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Oh, indeed we are Dan. Jordan. Dan. Jordan. Quick question. What's up? What's your bright spot today? My bright spot today is given some thanks to some folks. I'd like to thank, we just over the weekend, we recorded a little guest appearance of God awful movies. Indeed we did. I'd like to thank them

for having us on and also I forgot to mention this. As always. At the end of last week, an episode that I recorded of a podcast called Your Music Saved Us came out and I'd like to thank Jay and Clifton for having me on. Long anticipated. We recorded it a couple weeks ago. I was very excited for it to come out. We talked about a five iron frenzy EP Christian Scott EP that I really liked when I was younger and it turns out I still really like. Hey. So yeah, that's a lot of fun. People should go check that out there on iTunes and what have you. I'm looking forward to listening to it. So yeah, my bright spot is having a little bit of fun. Dicking around. Joining other people shows to have a non Alex Jones related fun. I think that's great. Yeah. I think it's good. It can

be good from time to time. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. How about you? Dan, I have some exciting announcement type news. I think I know what this is. I think you do, Dan. Thursday, July 1st, we will be doing the finale episode eight of the six episode series, God's Day of Wizard. And we will be doing it live at 9 PM at the Lincoln Lodge in Chicago. That's where we'll be doing it. It's going to be interesting. Yeah. It's all coming together at a very short period of time. And hopefully I will finish writing it by the time we get there. Yeah. And hopefully there'll be a link that people can get tickets to that we can put out or something. I will tweet that out whenever it's available. Yeah. This will be fun, although I am a little bit wary.

We'll see. It's the first time being out in public at a long time. Yeah. I've gone a little bit in public, but not like a live performance. That's a little bit weird. Yeah. But you know, time to get back to it, man. Maybe we'll see. Maybe not. Yeah, there's also that possibility too. So also a secondary aspect of this announcement is that there isn't going to be new episodes of God's Damn Wizard. Not next week until Thursday, July 1st. We will not be doing any more episodes of that. So look forward to it. I'll tweet out the link and we'll put it up and you can catch up on the old episodes who Rob. Yeah. And then some people have asked about this. And so like just to make it clear and more public, like once all of it's done, you are going to release it as an

audio as a complete audio thing video now, but it will be audio once it's all finished up and it can be edited nice and everybody needs to get me their individual audio, which some have been very, very good with. It seems like a private conversation, Jordan. So today on the podcast, Jordan, we're going to be talking about some modern day. Be as an S. We're going to be talking about an emergency broadcast that Alex did on Saturday. I almost screamed blackjack. This is from June 19th, 20, 21 blackjack. Oh, that was close. Yeah. That was tight. This is an emergency episode that Alex did. And I was glad that he did an emergency episode because I was struggling. I was trading water. Sure. Thinking about covering his present

day nonsense. Yeah. And then this emergency broadcast happened and something monumental went down. Okay. I'm something that we have been waiting for. Oh, for a while. All right. Okay. So it's actually something monumental and not some bullshit. I had some bullshit. Okay. Never mind. Yeah. No. It's something I've been excited about happening. It's bullshit. Okay. That's fair. That's fair. So we'll get down to business on this. But before we do, Jordan, you take a little moment to say thank you and welcome in some wonks. Oh, that's a great idea. So first congratulations to Paul on the birth of his first child Riley. This was sent in by Ryan. I guess we're gonna say Riley is a policy wonk. Okay. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much, Ryan,

and on behalf of Riley and Paul. Yes. Next, alias McFake name. Thank you so much. You are now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. What a strange name to be born with. Yeah. Cool disco George. Thank you so much. You are now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you. Disco George and DJ spouse mouse. Thank you so much. You are now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much, DJ spouse mouse. Thank you. Now, the little bit of a shorter policy wonk thing, but that's because giving someone life is giving someone death. You could say that life is death. You could. Joel had a birthday. Shouting something out to someone is also

shouting something into someone and giving life. Exactly. So Joel had a birthday last week. Tammy reached out wanted to wish you a happy birthday. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday. Um, Denise, how you doing out there? I hope you have a happy birthday. Son will hit me up. Oh, and I wanted us to wish you a happy birthday. I thought it might have been Killer Mike. His mom was named Denise. Is that right? Yeah. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Great trivia. That's John has a birthday. Sure. From Teresa. Teresa says, Hey, happy birthday. All right. And so do we. We joined Teresa. Happy birthday. Dusty. Sure. Not Dusty Springfield. Not Dusty Rhodes. No, he's passed. Oh, okay. This person is still alive as evidenced by their birthday being

this week. Gotcha. Gotcha. How's old man house phone? Oh, bad news. Oh, shit. Carrie. I was the one who reached out and wanted us to wish Dusty a happy birthday. Happy birthday, Dusty. And then finally very special from, uh, from Michael. Uh, this is a happy birthday. Uh, technocrat shout out combo. Wow. Put it all together for Ali G. Not Borat. Not Borat. No, not Borat. Okay. Okay. Ali G. AKA spills with a Z. Uh, happy birthday. And you are a technocrat. I'm a policy wonk. Crikey, Mike. That's fantastic. Have yourself a brew. How's your 401k doing, bro? All right. We got to go full tilt buggy on this Watson. All right. Let's just get down to business. We ain't making that money off that heroin. Why are you pimp so good? My neck is freakishly large.

I declare info war on you giving life is giving death. Happy birthday to all. Indeed. So Jordan, we're going to start this thing off and, uh, Alex's goes for an unconventional approach, uh, on this emergency broadcast. Wait, it's an emergency broadcast. Yeah. And he's going to open it with something other than screaming. This is an emergency. Yeah. Okay. Now I'm interested. And if I was gauging from the title of this video, I would say that it's, uh, the emergency is that, uh, the January 6th storming at the Capitol was a false flag. Oh, that does not sound like as much of an emergency as I was expecting. No, I don't know. I still, I mean, I've watched all of this. I still don't actually understand how this qualifies as an emergency that requires another

broadcast. Yeah. Don't you have to take immediate action in an emergency? You should, or at least you need to be aware of something really fast. Yes. And this is standard info wars lore at this point. It's a talking point that's really just like, yeah, everyone who's listening would see that headline and be like, we know. Yeah. Antifa false flag. The whole thing, FBI, CIA, Trump was probably not, or is in on it now. Yeah. And one of the things I was really thinking about is it seems really weird on first glance that Alex is doing that, having an emergency broadcast about like the six being false flag or the information. Yeah. But it makes some sense. I mean, if you really think about it from all publicly available information, Alex seems like he's on pretty solid

footing legally speaking, sure, as it relates to the storming of the Capitol. Okay. It seems like something that's getting him a lot of attention. Right. He constantly is trending on Twitter because people are like, they found this video of him being like, Trump told me to lead a march. Oh man. You know, and like, I think it's probably something really good to lean into for him. Yeah. There's a lot of attention. There's a lot of possibility for claiming that people are misrepresenting him totally. I think it's probably as long as he doesn't end up defaming anybody in the process, like probably a good thing to do. Oh, there we go. There is a downside as he is getting this attention. He knows that he needs to, you know, turn it into capitalize. So I love that

crew and I love the boom operator that's been here seven days. So I always going to be here tomorrow for the Sunday show. I just want to thank them and I'm going to hit this big news. Then I'm going to go right to these guests, but instead of always doing it as a footnote at the end, I'm going to do it right now because I've got a bunch of reporters I want to hire and I got operations I want to launch and I got things I want to do and I can't do without your support. So this coming Monday morning, this big sale of high quality organic vitamin D three. So he starts off with a very explicit plug starts off the emergency broadcast with an ad. Well, because like his staff is overworked, which seems like a him problem. Sure. It seems like a management issue. You could probably

hire more staff if they're or cut back or cut back. Yeah, find ways to do this on more of a shoestring or lower your overhead. Right. Yeah, right. But because these people are working seven days a week, he needs to hire more people and therefore you need B 12 or two or whatever. You need vitamins. That does sound true. And they'll give you a lot of energy. Right. And sometimes Jordan, you're laughing, but sometimes when you're a person who has a lot of energy, people think you're on cocaine. That's and then we've got the three new products by new, the new ones that finally came in with a supply chain breakdown that we're discounting as your habituated discounts and I get it and I made it that way. It's my fault. But now we have to sell

stuff on sale, even though it's going to sell out because you don't buy it. Let's just on sale. And then stuff sold out for six, eight months. That's okay. Are you complaining to me about you three back in stock, the tri ion for your immune system, your body, your energy, your libido, everything back in stock, 60% off and free shipping, double Patriot points, ultimate krill oil, 40% off. And of course, about your Selenium for the mustard seed, all at info or store.com right there. And I'm telling you that's lightning in a bottle. That's how we fund this operation. And people always ask, why do you got so much energy? I remember one time I was totally down exhausted. I've been there about 10 hours

and I went in the bathroom, take a piss and I walked out and one of the security guys saw me grant and ray on air and he said, my God, or what drugs? You're gonna have a heart attack. Are you on cocaine? I said, I haven't hate cocaine. I'm on drugs. I said, I'm in a war. Well, how'd you go from looking completely exhausted? Well, they're ready to kill somebody coming out of that bathroom. I said, I'm not gonna be these people slaves. I'm not gonna bow down to them. I will not be your slave ever. And it's going to take that type of attitude that's going to smash these pedophile scum that are anti-human and are jacked into some evil. So that's when I'm on is a life force.

And to quote John Paul Jones, I've only begun to fight. But I really appreciate this crew and this audience for keeping us in the fight and I need you to keep me in the fight now. Now I'll give you everything I've got because it's submit to these people's death. But all I need is your word of mouth and your prayers and your support. Please just give me money. I will fake mood swings. That was pathetic. That was really pathetic. Yeah. That was really sad. Two things that I love. One is how artificial that like mood swing is. And if it's not, he needs to see a doctor because that is outrageous, unacceptable. Yeah. The second thing is when he's talking about not being on cocaine, he describes going to a bathroom where people do cocaine almost entirely. Yeah. Yeah.

You know what was crazy? All those stories about Studio 54 back in the day, you know, people would always go into the bathroom and they just scream into the mirror. They'd be like, I'm going to dance. I'm not somebody who's done a lot of cocaine in my life, but I'm not going to say that I never have, but I will say that I don't think I've ever done it outside of. I think we can include laundry rooms. Hard to say. Hard to say. Yeah. So I don't know. I think Alex is on cocaine. Yeah. Or just, I don't know. This is just, everything is so fake about the passion. Yeah. That's, that's really, that's really bad acting. Yeah. But he'll continue doing that as fakely as long as you pay him. Please give him some money. Yeah. I don't like being chastised

for taking advantage of his discounts and then him being like, now I can't sell it at full price anymore. That's funny. Like what? Don't tell me. Don't tell me that. I put things on sale too much and now people are used to it and they know that I'll just put everything on sale in a week if it's not on sale now. And so they never buy anything at a real like normal price. So I have to buy things on sale. Fuck you. That's every time. Yeah. That's like, if every time you went to Walgreens, they're like, Oh, you're really only going to buy these Reese's cups on fucking two for $3 day. Huh? You're not going to buy him on a one for $1.99 day. Yeah. If one piece of shit. If one employee at Walgreens, like after Easter, like the day after Easter, there was just a boo

at everybody. Oh, now you want Easter eggs. Oh, they're delicious. Oh, they're so good. Yeah. So Alex gets to some of the news. All right. Let me show you these articles. We'll start going to these guests. Look at these, the big revolver article that's got the globalist running scared. And that's a good thing. And we literally foresaw it and pushed it together three weeks ago. This enemy of freedom, White House unveils new strategy to counter domestic terrorism. They mean real Americans, laser focus on violence. The same thing Brennan, that communist pervert, said what White House unveils strategy to combat domestic extremism. It's everywhere. It's their whole operation. So first of all, this article isn't on revolver. Revolver isn't so much a new

site as much as it is an attempt to make a new drudge report now that the Trump camp has turned on drudge. Yeah, it's just a bunch of links to clickbait headlines for the most part. The actual article that Alex is talking about here in this clip is from the Hill. The article is not some kind of a bombshell that as the globalists running scared. It's a discussion about how the plans that have been floated by Biden's administration have some possibly good ideas, but also there's some serious blind spots. For instance, here's a quote that's included in that article, quote, the Biden administration is rightly focused on addressing white supremacist violence, but its strategy includes none of the civil rights and liberty safeguards that rights groups and

communities of color have long sought. That's a criticism of Biden's plan that was put out in a statement by the ACLU, a group that Alex believes is high level globalist. It seems like the ACLU shouldn't be getting in the mix trying to sow doubt about the globalist plans if they're on board with the globalist plans. But look, man, I'm not a 30 dimension chess player or whatever the fuck. Yeah, if I was a 30 dimension chess player, I would say that Alex's opposition to this makes more sense. Or no, never mind. It doesn't make any sense whatsoever. On some level, if I were Alex, I would see that new plan that Biden put out as a real threat to my business model. One of the pillars of the plan is to quote, confront long term contributors to

domestic terrorism. In that section, they say, quote, the US government will also work to find ways to counter the polarization often fueled by disinformation, misinformation and dangerous conspiracy theories online, supporting an information environment that fosters healthy democratic discourse. I'm not sure that I believe that they're capable of achieving that goal. But if I were Alex, I would recognize that this looks like a situation where he might not get to fly completely under the radar moving forward. Yeah, that might not be good for him. I have some qualms with the plan, but it's not really a specific plan. It's very, it's very general. And critiquing the general plan is good for conversation and for fostering better ideas.

Sure. Getting the best ideas possible. But I don't think it's where the actual fights are going to happen. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think the only thing about any of those plans has always got to like boil down to, Hey, guys, guys, tell me honestly, when there's a Republican president or even this president, will this be primarily used to hurt leftist activists? And the answer is 99% of the time. Yes. So let's, let's calm it down on our plans real quick. So Alex is, you know, the false flag January six was a false flag. And you know what other people have false flagged before. Now we know from listening to 2003 that whenever this line of conversation would come up, Putin, yeah, it would be Alex would use Putin as an example,

use it every day in 2003 slightly different in the present. Oh, just as the old czarist would stage attacks. And just as the old KGB would do it and Hitler launched World War two on the back of stage attacks. Somebody was in the old state craft. Remember, and it's something that corrupt declining systems do. Strange as phrasing is a little so weird that he would call corrupt collapsing countries that did this, you know, like it seems weird that there would be one very obvious example. Well, 18 years changes. Yeah. So Alex gets to what he's planning to do for the beginning of this emergency report. Now I'm going to hand this over to an interview I did on Friday with one of the main lawyers who is defending people

arrested in the Capitol. So this is an interview from Friday. And then I've got an interview that some watch, but not enough of my head of security, Tim Enlow from set from January six when he witnessed what he saw and what happened. He ended up telling the story. A little while after it unfolded when we were on a family vacation in Utah, but Tim Enlow goes through exactly what really transpired and what happened. So Alex plays like 20 seconds of like a lawyer. Yeah, like I don't even know how to make I don't even know how to make heads or tails of it. Okay. And then a very long conversation he had with his security guard. It was easier to get him on a family vacation. He interviewed his security guard.

Also Rob do is there. Oh man. Yeah. What a good dad as I recall the Utah trip was when he went to his food supplier, the my Patriot supply warehouse. Yeah. So I don't I don't family vacation with the security guard going to your disaster food supplier. That's what that's kind of that sucks. That's just a business trip. That's not even a workcation or whatever it is you want to call it. That's just going to work. Yeah. If you're the kids and you're along for that, you're not having a great time. Bummer. Bummer. And you're in Utah. I mean, it's all like cities nice. Sure. We don't need to listen to anything of the security guard because it's honestly just exactly what they've said pretty much all along, which is, you know, Hey, we were asked to lead this like March to the

Capitol because there was another stage that was going to be set up there. There was going to be another rally. And as far as I can tell, that makes sense. It seems like everyone's actions make sense based on that. Trump was on stage saying that he was going to march down with them. Yep. They're going to have another rally to give strength to the spying, needing Republicans. Yep. You know, and sure, I don't know. I found I found the interview incredibly boring. Yeah. It doesn't contradict any of the things that I think are actually the problems. Yeah. Yeah. So it's just kind of it's on the side. No, they're their defense is, I mean, it rings true just because it's the only part of the story that they have told exactly the same way over and over and over again, you

know, like every other part of it. Oh, it's a false flag and Tifa was in there. All that stuff has changed 30 times in the first week after it happened. True. But the story of like, we weren't instigating, we were walking here. Yeah. Always the same. Yeah. Always the same. And the video of Alex very clearly being like, don't do this. Like it. Yeah. It checks out and it does follow his behavior. Even when I was watching the live coverage on the day, the way that Harrison Smith was celebrating it. And then once Alex realized it was going down, everything changed. The coverage on info wars changed because Alex was in the field. He didn't have control over what Harrison was doing. Right. And then they got the script and they realized, oh, shit. And Alex, like there's

also video of like one of these employees trying to get the police to let Alex get on like a megaphone to like calm the crowd down. Like, first of all, if you're the cop, absolutely not. No, no, no, no way. No way. Am I giving Alex Jones a megaphone? Because what if you do and then he's like, take the bill? Oh, he can go rogue at any time. You can't trust him. He's not. He's a rogue agent. And even best case scenario, he gets up there and is like, Hey, everybody stop and then they don't. Yeah. It's a no win situation. But the video that they have of their actions and their behavior on that day, unless somebody can provide actual evidence of them doing that as cover for what they're doing behind the scenes, right? Unless that can be demonstrated then. I just, I don't know.

I don't think the story of Alex's actual actions that day are as important as the story and the conversation about how these narratives propelled people to these actions. Agreed. I think the thing that bothers me most about people being like out, see Alex, look at these videos, see Alex was there and he was leading all this shit is that ultimately you're giving Alex too much credit. Yeah, you're turning him into like Darth Vader. He is too much of a coward to ever even come close to doing something like that. And so whenever you give him that kind of like, I'm sure part of the reason that he wants to do this is just so he can be like, see, look at how, look at how strong people think I am. Look at how much people think I could be running everything. If only I weren't

so much of a giant fucking coward. Well, coward and I mean, just a stumble bum. Yeah. Yeah. Like the also for the brand and it's a business and all that stuff. But I mean, ultimately, I really don't think he has the courage to do something like that. I would be surprised. Yeah. Speaking of the business, though, Alex does play an ad after I think this is after the security guard interview. And I just thought this was really funny. The globalists want all of us to be victims. Everything they do is about debilitating us, dubbing us down, making us sickly and trying to cut us off from each other and cut us off from God. Well, about four years ago, the Jones family began to carry out a ritual of health. Every three or four days, I get out a scoop, a vitamin refusion or two,

put it in a glass pitcher, stir it up, put some ice in it, put it in the refrigerator, and at least once or twice a day have a refreshing, totally healthy, nutritious drink. So yeah, Alex's family has a ritual of making juice from powder. Aye, man. I just think it's fun to call it a ritual. The globalists are trying to kill us all off. And so in order to fight back, my family has a new ritual, which is we make juice. We make Kool-Aid pretty regularly, but it's healthy Kool-Aid. You know, like if you've ever seen those Sunny D commercials, we're like, no, Sunny D, we're going to make our own stuff. You know, we're cool like that. All right, I just think that's fun. The phrasing is fun. Yeah. Something that's less

fun is that Alex then starts having some guests. Oh, that's no fun. No. Is Stuart Rose one of them? Joins us. We appreciate his time. Oh, no. Talk about this. Wow. What a historic point. What a crazy thing to be involved with, Nick. No. Well, and it's really groundbreaking new report here from Revolver. I think it's blown the lid wide open on this entire situation and hopefully given some clarity about what really went on on that day, right? Yeah. So the baby, baby bigot, Nick Fuentes is in the mix. And I kind of misspoke earlier. Revolver is primarily just a link aggregator like Drudge, but they do actually post some of their own blog content. And I think what happened earlier is that Alex referenced a link they posted to this Hill article when his

talking point for the day was supposed to be about this blog that Nick brings up. Gotcha. Gotcha. This is just a really overwritten plea for people to insist that the only relevant variable in terms of January 6th is whether or not law enforcement had moles inside the Proud Boys, Oath Keepers, and the three percenters. That's the only thing that matters. And if law enforcement did, then the whole thing has to be a sham. One paragraph really stood out to me as dumb. Quote, if it turns out that the federal government, FBI, Army Counterintelligence, or a similar agency had undercover agents or confidential informants embedded in any of the groups involved in January 6th, the federal intelligence agencies failing to warn of a

potential for violence looks less like an innocent mistake and more like something sinister. This is part of a discussion about how the excuse that has been used to explain the storming that there was, you know, an intelligence failure. But if that's what was used, but if there were any informants, then that can't be true. And that's a suspicious thing that they're using that excuse now. Sure. Anyone who has any idea how these types of groups operate knows that this sentiment is just so dumb. Groups like the Oath Keepers specifically follow a leaderless resistance model so they can avoid damage that confidential informants can't cause. One group inside the organization might have no idea what another group is up to,

and it's best if it stays that way. There are central figures in these organizations like Stuart Rhodes for the Oath Keepers or Enrique Tario for the Proud Boys, but they aren't going to know what each of their splinter groups is up to. They set up their groups like disconnected franchises because then it's harder to disrupt. This is a classic strategy that the extreme right wing has been using for a long time, but specifically since the terrorists and all terrorists, but very explicitly you can find conversations in right wing circles. Totally this being their their model since the 90s. Yeah. I mean, they wanted to create an insurgent attitude and they have 100% done so. Yeah. Even Alex's show operates kind of this way. Like when Millie Weaver put out

Shadowgate, it was pretty clear that Alex had no idea what she was doing with her time. He was paying for the documentary, but he didn't know what her point was, who she was talking to. He didn't know anything. She, as is the case with most of his employees, are tasked with knowing what they're supposed to do and operating in ways where Alex has plausible deniability to not be personally implicated if something they do is a fuck up. Yeah. Pretending that an informant in any of these organizations would definitively prove that the government at all the information about the group's plans is just dumb. And I refuse to believe that whoever wrote this piece doesn't know that. Yeah. This is just sort of like a defense argument. It's not even a real argument.

Yeah. That's kind of ridiculous. I tried to read this piece and it basically just boils down to how there are people who are left anonymous in charging documents for the oath keepers. You know, like there's the charging documents for the oath keepers who were indicted in the storming. Sure. There's names that are not listed in there, like person two, person three. Right. Right. Right. And so like is what if these people are every eye agent? Sure. Yeah. It's full of like enticing speculation, but it literally proves nothing. It's just it's a very long article that proves nothing. So then it's not even they're not even making the argument that it's a false flag so much as its entrapment.

Yeah. Yeah. But I mean, false flag can mean whatever you want now. Sure. Sure. Well, that's that's fair. Yeah. It's fair that words have no meaning in this world. Not anymore. Yeah. So the idea is that these FBI agents inside these groups who are now these unnamed people in the charging documents are FB, they're all FBI agents. All FBI guess what? Alex knows who they are. Okay. I have a lot of sources and let's just leave it at that. We know the names of the FBI agents that are actually in the building, not just informants. What are they going to do, Nick? In the next few weeks and months when that's all released? I mean, it's perfect. And they just spun and said, yeah, we were in there to try to stop it. They could. But no, they did not at all,

Nick. They've taken the bait again. Watch this space for Alex to announce the names of the FBI. Wow. I can't wait for this not to happen. Yeah. That would be that would definitely ruin his parade if he just started naming FBI agents. Yeah. So Nick Fuentes is incredibly annoying. And I find him insufferable to listen to. I hate him so much. He's not talking about being banned from flying at this point. But he is talking about how this January 6th unravels and when it unravels, everything comes with it. It's like that sweater song by the Weezer, right? Weezer. Not a Weezer guy. No, no, you don't know that if you want to destroy my sweater. No, I do not pull this thread as I walk away. Not a Weezer guy, not even Pinkerton. Wow. Yeah. I don't really

love them that much either, but I know references. Anyway, if you want to destroy the globalist sweater, you pull the thread of January 6th while they walk away. Gotcha. What's going to unravel in all of this is the myth of January 6th. That will unravel the myth of the 2020 election, the Biden landslide. That will unravel the myth of COVID, which was the pretext to use the mail-in ballots to rig the election. It's going to unravel all the events of the entire past one year and how all of this was culminating in the overthrow of Donald Trump by the deep state. It was all just a big color revolution and this, this is one of those things that is going to, if this comes apart, will unravel a series of huge, massive lies.

So Nick Fuentes has a unified conspiracy about everything that's happened over the last year and a half or so. Cool. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So when this goes nowhere, what's his new fucking bullshit? He'll probably get back to complaining about the airlines. I know. I just, I just can't stand this. I don't know. He'll just retreat to like demographic birth rate nonsense. Has anybody tried really yelling into his face though? I'm sure. But like really loudly. I'm sure. Like just, but just like no over and over and over and over again. I know that you think that you have a banshee like power with your yelling, but I think that the smug prick like Nick Fuentes is pretty immune to yelling. All right. We'll see. I would assume that throughout his

high school career and the few years he's been out of high school, he's been getting a lot of people yelling at it. That's probably true. Yeah. Oh, God, he's so easy to hate. Oh, and it's so easy to hate. It only gets easier. And again, it's globalist interests are going to organize groups into thinking it's okay to literally attack and overrun and attack white people. This is the sick Marxist plan. They're not going to do it according to class. They're going to do it according to race. They admit that. And so they do. They do. And you're right. That's what's happening in South Africa. That is what happened in Bobway, formerly Rhodesia. This is what's happening all across the world. And you know, people are just going to have to make a really tough decision, which is

what are we willing to do to save our Western civilization? We were given this great inheritance. Okay. Okay, Nick. So I love when someone like a Nick Fuentes is like, I'm not racist at all. And then he starts talking about Western heritage and our great inheritance and how it was squandered. And the two examples that he has of the squandering of it are South Africa and fucking Rhodesia. What do those things have in common, Nick? I can't. Don't bastard. I can't believe that white people were forced to endure the injustice of continuing to own 90% of South Africa. I feel I feel like those sorts of moments are real indications that like he's trolling. Like whenever he's like, I'm not racist. This is just, I just care about America. Like he

knows he's fucking with people. It's outrageous. Rhodesia means white nationalist. The end. Just being like, Hey, here's how Rhodesia should have gone. We keep it is white nationalist. The end. I mean, there's no other way of putting it. We believe we should be able to go into a country, take all of their land by force and violence and then force them to work for us for nothing. Yeah. Yeah. Fuck Nick Fuentes. Fuck Nick Fuentes. Alex had other guests on this show. And so I deemed some of this a priority thing. I got kind of tired of Nick. They weren't really talking about much. It was kind of just about how like the extreme right is so strong. Sure. The system is weak. You guys couldn't even overthrow the fucking capital. All of this, but they're going to pull

that thread and all of this is going to collapse. The system is done for the right is going to win. That doesn't sound true. Alex also has his lawyer Barnes on. We're not going to listen to any of that because who gives a show? Good work, Barnes. You didn't even make it onto our show. Nope. Just bored me. Try stand up. Yeah. Alex also talks to Pete Santilli, who's a guy we've heard a couple of times on the show. And I heard this and I was like, well, you are disqualified, sir. So when my dad, when I got out of the Marine Corps, he gave me a sit down. He was telling me how powerful the Nazi socialist movement was. And he, in fact, and my dad is not a white supremacist, but he did describe to me historically. He said it was so powerful that 99% of the people in Germany

voted for Hitler was the people that allowed Hitler to rise to power because of the trinkets that they offer. Of course, freebies for everyone, schooling for everyone. He said it was so powerful that it was the people that actually propelled Hitler to power. Firstly, Hitler was very specifically not in favor of universal programs. No, absolutely not. I'm sure that at no point was he out there advocating for free tuition for everyone, maybe for Arians or something, but not for everyone. Maybe later. Yeah. Second, this is an absolute fabrication and lie about how Hitler came to power. It doesn't matter that this has nothing to do with reality. This story doesn't exist to convey history and help people understand the world better. The reason this story exists

is to demonize social welfare programs, pure and simple. Hitler didn't become chancellor because he and the Nazis offered everyone trinkets. He'd run for president against Hindenburg in 1932, and he got 36.8% of the vote. And afterwards, he was appointed chancellor as part of an attempt to create a coalition government that would tamp down the Nazi movement from getting out of control, but more importantly, make sure that the communists stayed far away from power. By the time of the Reichstag fire and the Enabling Act, the only people in government who were opposing Hitler were the left-leaning social democrats, and probably the communists would have, but they weren't in the Reichstag anymore. No, no. Pete Santilli tells this story because he wants everyone listening

to think that if you have a politician talking about expanding Medicare or Social Security, the next thing they're going to do is set up concentration camps. It's total bullshit. He's just against public spending. That's like, it's just a desperate attempt to make that argument based on nothing. And just one of the subtlest things in it is that 99% number of just like, it is easy and it is right to demonize everyone that disagrees with you. 99% of them will be taken in by trinkets. They're not even people smart enough to wake up. They can't. Trinkets are all they need. So it's fine to obliterate them just like you wanted to the Nazis. Yep. So anyway, you fuck Pete Santilli too. This emergency report really was about one thing for me.

I don't care about Alex's ideas that January 6th is false flag. I don't care about Nick Fuentes. No. I don't care about Barnes and I don't care about Pete Santilli. I care about one thing, Mike down. Well, he's one of our most popular guests and he is back by demand. Dr. Steve Pachennick is a best selling author. Yes. You're a witch. You were saying last week we were talking after the show. You were like, man, I've been me. I'm missing Steve. I've been needing a big swing. But I also was saying that like, I feel Steve coming back. He's coming. Like it's just it's around the corner. Even when Alex and him had the falling out about his ridiculous predictions around the election, I still was like, all right, he's on time out. He'll be back. He'll be back.

And here we are. Here we are in June. Steve is back. So as far as the bet went, he made the soft landing into Owen's show. Right. He started coming back on the war room a little bit. Okay. And then that was the way to get the toe in the water. But the thing that I find really interesting about that clip is that Alex is like by popular demand. Yeah, Steve Pachennick is back. I think he might have gotten bullied into him. It does kind of seem like it and they let him go on Owen's show is like a. Hey, listen, yeah, if you can prove you can stay on on target on this show, then we'll give you that or if it's not too humiliated. Yeah, exactly. It's so great. What a fucking kid gloves. He's too popular to get rid of completely, but I hate him so much. I gotta say

if there were a guest that we had, like if we had guests and there was a guest we had who was really, really popular, but also was a complete dick and was using us and lying to everybody. Yeah, I wouldn't care how popular they were. They would not be on my show ever. No, and if we had people being like, no, you got to have him back on the show, we'd be like, we will not be having him back on the show. End of conversation. And you should stop listening because you like that guy. If you like it, goodbye. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, what integrity Alex has. Oh, he's just one of the heroes of our time tip of the spear. Undoubtedly. So Alex, let Steve speak his piece and this to me is Steve declaring victory over it. It's always a pleasure, Alex.

Always remember you and I are the focus of the rage of the left and particularly when you have what we call liberal fascism. This is what you're beginning to see with the Biden administration, with Susan Rice, with Obama. But Biden isn't running anything. He had three aneurysms. He's cognitively impaired. There's a demand for him to take a test. The real issue now is that we are in the midst of a military coup. I said it to you a year and a half ago. We were at the computers. We marked the ballots. We know exactly who's corrupt. We know where the corruption is occurring. And what you're seeing is the federal government trying to hold on. So now by popular demand, Alex has to have Steve back on and Steve isn't budging on the

watermark ballots. Nope. They made the bet. He lost the bet and still going for it. Well, he's going to mold reality in such a way as to win the bet. What an asshole. What a that. I mean, I can totally understand why Alex hates him like on a deep level, because that is a narcissistic psychopath fighting a narcissistic psychopath and losing your reality to his. That's brutal. But one of the like it's it's two narcissistic psychopaths, but one is way better at manipulating. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's a pro. He's a real pro and Alex is an easy mark. So you you might have some doubts about watermark ballots. I have plenty of them where you should let those doubts go to bed. Okay. We marked the computers. We marked

the ballots. We Steve crypto. We engraving and it was a sophisticated engraving. This was a operation run by many of our military intelligence, civilian intelligence, key selected people who knew that we were having a corrupt government and they were tired of war. And we went on your show to basically pronounce that and make that announcement clear to the American public because you became the one source that was reliable, valid and important to our institution. I am going to say a bunch of shit directly to your face that you know is not true and have told me is not true. And then I'm going to compliment you for it at the end. That went from compliment as a way of buttering up to compliment as the knife stuck deep into your gut and then twisted around as a

weapon. Oh, that is good stuff. Yeah. Because in order to stand up for your dignity, disagreeing with the bullshit, I'm saying you would have to disagree with the compliments. Oh God, that's so evil. That's evil. That's just so good. So Steve's got another prediction here and it's I don't I don't think this is a good one basically saying that the Democrats won't exist within a few months. Oh, that'll be tough. And what you're seeing is the eruption of a party that will no longer exist within a few more months. They sound as if they're going to be successful, but they're not at all. So I'll give them just to be generous to Steve. I'll give them till the end of the year. Yeah. So the Democratic Party exists by the beginning of 2022. Yeah. Yeah. Well, once again, be incorrect.

I mean, I'll say I would say I have to go. I'll stop it at about halfway through the campaign season. You know what I'm saying? Whenever the Democratic congressmen are still are going back for their next House of Representatives, the senators are up for that's past. That's past a few months. Well, I'm trying to be as generous as possible. I feel like given six months is pretty generous. That's true. But I mean, you know, you got to at least see if the Democrats campaign before they're eradicated completely. Maybe they, yeah, I don't know. This is all bullshit, but super bullshit. So Alex has this big talking point that he throws out a bunch and that's that Trump has come out and he said, we're going to win back Congress and maybe even the presidency

before you, before you expect it, you know, like, no, that's probably true. Well, Alex asks Steve, why did Trump say that stuff? And Steve's got an interesting answer. Okay. What about the amazing statement by Trump two weeks ago where he said, we're going to win the House, we're going to win the Senate, and we're going to win the presidency a lot sooner than you think. Basically saying Joe Biden would be gone. And now you see prestigious Democrat doctors saying he needs to step down. Prestige all the evidence of election fraud and the proof coming out. And I look at the body language of Garland and of others. They look like deer in the headlights. So can you lay out for us what you thought was going to happen on January 6 versus what's happened, but what's then now

unfolding right now? And what, what do you think Trump's cryptic statement meant? What Trump's statement meant was simply to say that he knew and was aware in part of the fact that we in the military and in the intelligence community selected a certain number of people to be involved in what we call the sting operation, where we put watermarks and encrypted code on the machines, the voting machines and all the ballots. So Trump is in on it. That is so good. That is so good. Alex gave him that subtle like what you thought back then. Tell us what you think now as though they were going to be different. Nope. Same bullshit. Yeah. But Alex is also giving some signal to like, Hey, you know, they,

uh, it turns out you maybe we're right about all that stuff. Maybe I was wrong. Like, well, that's such a submitting. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Yep. Alex got tricked by daddy again. Yeah. One of the, one of the things that might come into your mind is like, okay, so they ran this big sting operation. Obviously there's going to be some guilty parties. Sure. I got it. Somebody's got to be in prison, right? Secret indictments. Well, then what we call the sting operation where we put watermarks and encrypted code on the machines, the voting machines and all the ballots in the process, we understood that there would be a lot of people implicated, indicted and convicted and sent not to the prisons in America, but to our prisons

in Guantanamo. We built a whole new facility a year ago using new wiring, not in the old Guantanamo, but in the mountains of Guantanamo. Many of these people have been sent down without any notice to anybody else. What? Yeah. So apparently a bunch of people are secretly in Guantanamo now. So this is just viewing on stuff. There's a bunch of white collar bureaucrats. They forced to go to a mountain stronghold prison in Guantanamo. And probably the Pope. And probably the real Pope. Yeah. That's probably true. Oh man. Yep. I don't want to go to that prison. No, no, that sounds terrible. So Steve gets talking about January 6th and essentially what it is is a Pelosi, Merrick Garland false flag or something just doesn't sound true. It's not. But

what's more important, listen to Steve spin his wheels while trying to describe Merrick Garland Mike down for this. I really want you to pay attention to this because it's it's outrageous. And this is once again, Nancy Pelosi agreeing to have this type of false flag using another one of our Washington based, quote, attorney generals, Garland. It's a full Garland went to a school called Andover. He was a little prep school from a Wasp family in New York, then went to Yale, and then went to a prestigious law firm where he only earned a $9 million dollars in one case. And is worth between about $16 million to $24 million, never having served our country, never having built a business, never having to take a risk like you and I have. So basic Garland,

I'm sorry, is the Jewish guy. It's the other guy. No, that's yeah, he's the Jewish guy who also went ironically to Harvard, also went to Harvard undergraduate Harvard Law School. Steve got the memorized bio for Merrick Garland wrong. Yeah, I was going to say that doesn't sound right at all. No, he's just he has these like little bits of little information that he's memorized about folks to throw out. But you also notice that like the things that he sort of hinges on are like he's a Wasp is a Jewish guy like weird. Yeah, yeah, we got to know what people are before you can build an opinion about them. And that makes perfect sense seems to be what Steve that's what Steve believes. And that's because he's a giant fucking white nationalist racist boy. Yeah. And scary,

like terrifying if he actually believes the things that he's saying he is so scary. He is he is he Oh God, people should be chasing him with butterfly nets. No, no, absolutely. He should be in a Hannibal Lecter mask 100%. Yeah. So Steve gets to talking about how the Democrats are done. Yeah, but what was the GOP? Yeah, Trump has now created a new better party. Sure. And his reasoning for this is strange. Okay, what you're seeing is the end of a political party, the so called Democrats. In turn, we will end the Republican Party as we know it because Trump came in as a black sheep in the dynamics of politics. In other words, he was so far out that we the people understood that we needed a businessman to come in and no longer a politician as Vladimir Putin said it correctly

when he saw Biden or if he did see Biden, he said, look, Biden is nothing more than a political hack who's been around for 43 years. What I need is a man who has character personality and is able to take the risks that I blue Putin have taken before in running Russia. So yeah, apparently Biden's a bad president because Putin doesn't like him. You know, it's really weird in 2021 to listen to just out and out fascists talk fascistly, you know, where you're like, I don't remember people being so openly fascist back in the day. Maybe I just wasn't paying attention. But as a kid, I don't remember like just hearing all these fascist talk all the fascist time. I do feel like this is more overt than even I remember. Really fascist. Yeah, I mean, and like just even on,

you know, putting that aside, think about how overt like this conversation about an ongoing military coup to overthrow the government is like and banal to Steve is almost sort of like gleefully just discussing like, ah, we're we're overthrown. It's all over this point. We're basically cleaning out what I call the lavage of 21. This is a political lavage of America, both Republicans and Democrats. All right, Dr. Petrie explain what a political lavage is for those of us that didn't live in France. A political lavage. Not funny. Basic. I'm using a fancy term that I created to make. Oh my God. That the American people understands we're basically cleaning out the system. An alternative term for that was a coup or regime change. When I came on

your show and I explained that I had the right to say publicly that we were in the midst and the beginning of a military coup, which was a sting operation. I wasn't coming to the forefront and saying something that I wasn't allowed to say. Yeah, so he's got a lavage going on or if you don't know what Steve's own made up political term is. It's a coup. I was going to say coup, but I said a different word to make everybody think that I'm super smart. But instead, I just made up a term, which makes me look like a complete asshole. Yeah, I mean, you know, he's got an ongoing military coup on his hands. And that seems like a lot. That seems like a lot. But Steve's team, they're in deep. They're everywhere. It does seem like that, dude.

This is a big revelation. Okay, if true, which it's not, this is a huge deal. We in the admin, well, we outside the administration, some of them are famous generals. Keith Alexander is one. He's on Amazon. We threw out Bezos. He's head of the chairman of the board at what? But the reason we took over Amazon was we wanted a cloud, a civilian cloud, the largest cloud. In turn, we placed in a four star general Nakasoni, third generation knee side. You are out of your fucking mind. He was in cyber command. We put him into the White House. So what we did was to take over this administration and allow it to play out in their own corruption in their own miscreant way, because we knew that everything they were about to do would be either ignorant,

corrupt, and dangerous to the United States. Let me tell you what that's crazy. What you're saying Gigi won't even talk to Biden or any administration. They won't even talk to them like they're scared like they know it's a trap. Steve has a little team and they've taken over Amazon and the government. It's amazing. This is that's a big swing. Yeah, that's a big swing. You know, you come to Steve for a big swing and we overthrew Amazon first. Not the swing I was expecting, but that's a big one. They needed the cloud. That biggest company in the world thing. We stole it. We commandeered it. Bezos, get out of here. If Alex took that seriously for a fucking second, one second, he would have to be like, All right, Steve, fix all that shit that I complain

about Amazon all the time. Totally. Totally. Why then? Why aren't you guys doing anything right? Yeah, your military owned now or whatever. Nonsense. Yeah. So one of the things that Steve wants you to know, though, is like, Okay, so like, look, there's there appear to be some frosty relations between Biden and China. Sure, right? Yeah, doesn't seem like things are maybe as amicable. Bad time. Not great. Yeah. But what? It's fine. Okay. It's fine. Well, that's good. Because Steve talked to China. No, no, no, no, no. But the key point here was that Xi Jinping understood that Biden was not in control. I had sent him a message with the approval of my people a year and a half ago that this was not relevant to China. We would remain

friends of China. At the same time, we sent a message to Modi of India to say we are your friends as well. Yeah. So Steve's in touch with Xi and Modi. Wow. I feel like Steve is more involved now than he was in the past. Oh, yeah. I feel like now Steve has gone from being like, I'm part of an operation to being like, I'm running this shit. I think I think it's an escalation that comes with knowing that you're untouchable. Yeah. Yeah. Alex can't fuck with you at all. So why not go ahead and create yourself as like this arch super hero depending on perspective. Why not? And he's using we and you think he's he's talking about his team. But part of me is like, we're at the royal we level of him describing himself, you know, at this

point, you can get away with whatever you want. You've got Alex basically dead to rights on everything. You could just he's not going to put up a fight about anything. He fired David Knight into the show for a few months and now he's forced to have you back. Like you could get away with whatever you want. Why not just legend build? Yeah. Yes. And you. Oh man. But Jesus, this is so big. I control all the levers of power in the world. I told China put up with Biden. It's cool. Like there's that big lie theory that he's operating on with Alex. Now, this is too big. This is too big of a lie. This is just too big. But I did notice there that he pronounced it Gigi Ping. Yes. And that makes me think that that's why Alex pronounces it that way.

That would make probably from talking to Steve too much, which is how much anybody who ever speaks to Steve talks to Steve. Sure. Yeah, don't talk to that dude. Don't talk to him. Just don't talk to him. So Steve was talking about how like they've taken over Amazon and they also took over the government and they took over the Biden administration essentially in order to let it play out its corrupt ways. Sure. And this is because they wanted to show the world that this is all corrupt, right? Yeah. Let it happen. See, it's a bad plan. But if Trump had won, right, then you know, maybe you get a little bit done. But if Trump loses, it shows how corrupt everything is, right, get even more done. You get right. It's, it's no, that's a bad plan. That's a bad plan.

No, that's a bad plan. Brilliant. I know you think you're playing the long game, but that's a bad plan. It's brilliant. All right, well, we'll see. And that's all Trump was trying to do, man. Okay. Trump was just trying to show the world that things weren't good. That doesn't sound true. What happens is you enter self destruction. And that's what Washington was all about. And that's what Trump was trying to show the people. And those of us who worked in Washington, but no longer live there, trying to show the American people how incompetent, corrupt and disgraceful these these people politicians were the Mitt Romney, a Mormon from Utah, yet he was a governor of Massachusetts. Now he's a senator from undoubtedly they're all incompetent. Here's what I'm asking you

is listen, a blind hog gets acres twice a day, broken clocks are right twice a day. I love hearing all this confidence. It's wonderful for radio. They're now saying there are secret watermarks, 3D holograms on the ballots. And now I see certified experts. It's true. Oh, no, Alex. Oh, you loser. Oh, see, this is what I'm saying. Don't you dare tell me that Alex could help overthrow the fucking capital. Steve Pachennik made him turn into a little baby dog. Pathetic. Steve Alex could actually help a fake overthrow of the government. Yeah, totally. Yeah, no, it'd be great in the war of the world's radio play, right, right, right, right. But yeah, yeah, this is this is a little silly. So Steve wants you to know that the this is really

actually a good thing that's going on. The intelligence community, it's all getting cleansed. And Alex is like, he's all worried for his own safety. And he's like, you're fine. Of course, you're fine. Of course. This is far more of a cleansing than anybody realizes. Will you be harmed? No. Are they dangerous? Could be. Will they hurt you? No. Will an Obama come back and write another nonsensical book? Yes, that's what they gave them. He brought on Netflix, a dying Institute. What happened in the process? Hollywood went under. I mean, I guess he does own Amazon Prime show 18 years ago. This will all happen. We've got to find those interviews. You've been dead right. So I get what you're saying. Yeah, you got to find those interviews. Yeah,

find those interviews. Please find those interviews. I would like you to find those interviews. Yeah, I love I love that self interview of like, are they going to hurt you? No. Are they dangerous? Maybe. Are they going to hurt you? No. Is Obama going to write another dumb book? You bet. Wow. What an infuriating way of talking to me. You asshole. Yeah. Is he put it out on Netflix, a dying entity? What? What seems to be doing all right? It's doing fine. We're not. I don't care. Why does that happen? So look, you think that that's an annoying way for someone to speak? Do I? Yes. Is it going to continue? Probably. Am I worried? No, I would say that you need to show some goddamn respect because this man single handedly don't tell me he took down the Soviet

Union years ago on your show. And maybe this was before I was on your show in 1980s. I was involved in the takedown of the Soviet Union, not me, just a group of us involved both CIA military. We took it down without any force or kinetic action. What happened is we made a little mistake instead of picking someone like Putin, we decided, and that was my fault, to have somebody who was rational, open-minded, and we picked Gorbachev. Look, Gorbachev is on me, guys. I cannot believe how magnanimous he is being with admitting guilt for a thing he could not have been less involved in. Look, in the physical universe we inhabit, anything that he has ever done had zero effects. Me and my boys, we took down the Soviet Union. And then look, we fucked up. We fucked up.

We put in Gorbachev and should have gone with a dictator right from the start. I do like that strategy of admitting fault for something that you absolutely did not do. It's disarming in a certain way. I kind of like that. Try that at work the next time, whenever they're like, hey, you have been doing, listen, I'm really sorry. I thought it would be a good idea to overthrow the human resources department. And I installed the current head and that's on me. That's on me right now. And they're like, what? Do you have a part of the hiring process? What's happening? Well, little do you know. I have been pulling the strings on all capitalist enterprises since the beginning of time. I invented investing. Just swing. Hey,

have you ever seen undercover boss and then take your beard off? I invented the chair. What? Oh my God. You know, before I came along, there wasn't photosynthesis. I just can't. Steve Pajenek, man. That dude, there's, there's a disease there, but I don't know which, what, or how bad it is, but it's bad. What's so amazing about him is that like, I feel this way about Alex too is like, there will never be another. No, like there won't be another Alex because he came along at this perfect time in the, in the era of public access, TV, and right wing radio becoming ascendant, right when his career was taking a, taking a upward tick. And then he had this established career at the point when new media was really becoming

a thing in social media. And so he had some credibility that other people lacked when, when information became so easily disseminated. Sure. Steve Pajenek is a guy who's nuts. He is one of the most fun liars I think I've ever heard. Just spectacular. But he also did work at the state department. Wild. He did. He was involved in Aldo Moro's death. Yeah. Like these are things that like are, they are just real. Yeah. They did happen. Yeah. All these other like dicks who come around, people who are on like project Camelot, they're just making up everything. Steve's making up a lot. Oh yeah. But he also has that veneer of credibility that comes from what he was doing in the seventies. Yeah. They like, I don't know if anyone will ever be able to

replicate that. If you want to put together good credibility in this space, you need one tiny acorn of truth about you. And that will unlock your, your oak tree of bullshit. Yeah. But you got to have the acorn. You got to have the acorn. And then if you want to be like Steve, you've got to be naturally gifted at spinning these yarns and memorizing facts. Yeah. Or have a rare delusional disorder that allows you to think these things as though they were true and say them confidently. And then at the same time, Steve wouldn't be able to work without Alex. Like he, I've heard him on other shows. Like he was on coast to coast a couple times. It's not. Yeah. It's not the same. Like you need that. You need that Alex straight man that you can

just steamroll. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You need to be able to flatter someone into giving you so much fucking leash that essentially it's gone until it is gone. I own Amazon. And then you are on a leash. That's what happened. He was like, okay, we're going to keep, look, Dr. Steve can go out of pocket. We're going to keep them close, but we're going to keep them on a leash. Yeah. And then all of a sudden Alex is wearing that dog collar. Like I don't know what happened. Yep. That is exactly what happened. Yeah. So back to back to the narrative at hand. Steve took down the Soviet Union accidentally put in Gorbachev or it was intentional then, but in hindsight, not a great decision. I mean, I think ultimately he should be, he should still be proud of that

decision. Putin wasn't ready yet, man. That's the real issue. It's probably true. If it weren't for Gorbachev, if you hadn't have revealed the corruption in the system, you never would have gotten Putin in the first place. See it's playing out all over again. History rhymes, Dan. Well, interestingly, Steve is the kind of guy who likes to clean up his own messes. Well, that's nice. So, you know, he put in Gorbachev. It wasn't a good idea. No, he fixed that. Okay. Gorbachev was not strong enough to control 11 time zones. So at that time, the Soviet Union was 14 time zones. So we picked, I reconstructed that mistake and I picked a man who worked for Andropov, the head of KGB named Vladimir Putin. Putin knows he was picked by me. He was specifically

picked because he was East German intelligence. He spoke English. He spoke German. He spoke Russian. Yep. So apparently Steve handpicked Vladimir Putin to take over for Gorbachev to fix his mistake from after he overthrew the Soviet Union. And Putin knows that Steve Pechenik was the one who was behind his rising to power. Oh, boy. Outrageous. Hey, Alex, just so you know, Putin owes it all to me. And it's all me, Alex, everything inside your entire career. That's me. And I can guide international relations by sending a message to China or India. Everybody just waits on my beck and call. Alex, listen, if you fuck with me, there's nowhere I can't find you. I can find you in the north. I can find you in the south. I can find you around the world. 28 time zones. That's

how many time zones I can find you in. Steve's never that. I know, but it'd be more fun. Yeah. My character, I think, is is a little bit of a nice addition. Yeah, I guess. I mean, I feel like wow, Steve's. But Steve's menace is far more dry. You know, like when there was the the hurricane and he was scolding Alex about his manners. It was more terrifying that he didn't yell at him. He was just like, well, you know, my neighbor's house is under water right now and you're being a dick to me. Like that's scary. Yeah. Yeah. He does have that cool level headed malevolence about him. Yeah. That's a that's a big feature. Yeah. So one of the clips that we found early on in our time doing the show was something that kind of shocked us. I believe

it was it was the clip where Alex talks about going on RT and he gets debriefed by Russian intelligence. Yeah. Yeah. And that was a bizarre clip and it's not something that we've heard a ton more from Alex about. We're going to have to find those Steve Puchenik clips from 18 years ago. So when Alex talked about that clip or when he talked about that experience the first time we heard it, it was the story of the Russians being like, you know, so much. Yeah. Right. You're brilliant. You know, all this is all about Alex. He's too brilliant. The story is a little different now. Alex tells it again. Oh, kind of a different focus. Odd. The last time I was on Russian TV, this is probably about 10 years ago, eight, nine years ago, they go, listen, we got this group

wants to talk to you. It's this Russian national TV. We want you on. So I'm sitting there on Skype out of my office and it's this big boardroom and there's all these guys with beards. This is obviously not TV and it's like all the big brain bugs. They're intelligence agents. They're all looking at me and they go, tell us about Puchenik. How do you know Puchenik? What do you know about Puchenik? What do you think of Putin and Puchenik? And they were dead. I remember like, uh, I'm not an intelligence operative. I'm a talk show host, but definitely they had been sent by Putin to ask about you. They kept like, and I just said, I don't know anything about Puchenik. He's a author. I've had him on. He used to work for US intelligence agencies, but that's a true story

because I mean, like it's a boardroom of like 15 dudes and like these are the Russians you see on TV. These are like the brain bugs, you know, like the, like they're just like totally like from Starship Troopers. That actually happened. Yeah, that actually happened. That 100% actually. Yeah. So now the story is totally true. They were grilling him about Puchenik. Just because that changed to the story multiple times doesn't mean it didn't totally happen. Well, and it's certainly like what would happen if Puchenik is single-handedly responsible for USSR Russian history over the last decades. Yeah. Yeah. It does seem like if he was the one who both, uh, overthrew the Soviet Union, installed multiple, uh, prime ministers and so on and so

forth, I don't even think that the RT guys, unless it was a splinter group, it would have to be. It would have to be. That's the only reason they would be asking about Steve, right? Right. It wouldn't be because Steve would get the phone call if it was from maybe like, hey, yeah, exactly. It would be too easy. So now we've got a revolutionary group within the Soviet year within the remnants of the Soviet Union. Yeah. Coming back to find out dirt on Steve so they can take him out because he's too powerful or it didn't happen. That would also be likely. Yeah. Yeah. Or Alex got interviewed on Russian, uh, TV and, uh, like he was asked a question that sounded weird and, uh, it became, uh, uh, spy craft or he went on a show that did a pre-interview.

Uh, you seem to talk to Steve Puchenik a lot. He's crazy, right? With the writer's room. Yeah. So, um, Steve, his big thing is that, uh, the Biden's going to be gone soon. Although the way he talks about it is a little bit off-putting. Biden will no longer be president. Blinken will not be secretary of state. You will not have all these American Jewish guys who never served our country. 25 of them remain in power. At the same time, Trump will have to have a whole new backup system, not with the people he had. Jared Kushner has to go. Why? Trump has to go. Yeah. It seems real strange. I mean, not strange at all, but no, that's vicious anti-Semitism. He seems very strongly focused on defining people by, uh, their religion or heritage. It's, uh,

it's not good. They're very easy visual ways to disqualify people as humans in Steve Puchenik's world. Yeah. Yikes. Not good. No. So, uh, Alex is like, Steve, our interview is about to come to an end, but I got to ask you, you saying that Biden's going to go down. Give me a timeframe. Oh, give me a timeframe, Steve. Make me another bet. So in closing, you got to come back again soon. Steve Puchenik.com found all your interesting work there. In closing, though, what is the timeframe on Biden? I, I will not give you a timeframe because the last time frame was not accurate. So let us just say in time with patients, you will see this evolution that we're talking about. Oh, listen, they know that evolution's there. That's why they're going to come after

everybody. Okay. All right, Alex, convince yourself that this guy isn't fucking with you. So I admit I got the math wrong. The end of the world is not on December 21st, 2021. It's going to be on December 21st. It doesn't sound anything like 2020, 2021, 2021. So it'll be there. This is so awesome and so frustrating and so funny. I can't, I can't imagine how little dignity one must have to allow Steve back on the show. It's sad. It's embarrassing to a level that I would have thought Alex would be above. He is such an ego to him that like I would, I would have thought for sure he'd be like, Steve fucked me. That was like the around the election that was unacceptable. There is no way if I let him back on the show, it's going to look so bad. Yep.

Doesn't care. Eight. Steve's back. Steve's back and Alex is making excuses for why maybe Steve's actually right. Yeah. I mean, I heard it in his voice. I heard that there was a certain despondence in his voice that I felt like was, was definitely there. Maybe. A little bit of disappointment. Maybe a little bit of like just a small smidge of what have I become? I feel, I felt a small, like when he was like, yeah, that's what they're talking about. I feel a small smidge of it. These are, these are human emotions you're describing and I'm not sure they relate to this artificial world of bullshit. You are so right. You're so right. I'm trying to be a human. I even think strategically from the world of bullshit, this is a bad decision. Like,

because all you're going to do is anybody who liked Alex and thought he was on to something is going to look at him as somebody who is coutowed to this guy who was wrong and definitively wrong and very angrily wrong. Made a bet about it. Yeah. Yeah. The Pope's been arrested. Yeah. What about the guy we see walking away? You don't see anybody walking. Come on. It's great. So that's just going to hurt Alex's image in the audience's eyes. Yeah. The best you're going to do is you're going to attract Steve's fans to you. They don't care. Steve sells supplements too. It's not like you're going to get his business. He's going to be fine. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. This is sad. And for somebody who's self-image is so fucking macho to really go into this interview and just take a little kiss

on the chin, a little pat on the head, and I'll see you next time is brutal. Yeah. That's brutal. Although flip side, I'm happy because I am too. I like seeing Alex humiliated. Yeah. And there's enjoyable. There's a Steve shaped hole on the show. That's true. Not anymore. No. Like guys and guys just like he comes up with the baddest shit. Yeah. Now there's a fucking big head cut out of Steve directly behind Alex that you look up and every time you see Steve's face in his little tendrils. Yeah. His presence is back on the show. Oh yeah. Appreciate it. And hopefully hopefully this will reinvigorate things and make me more interested in seeing where the fun thriller novel that Steve's writing goes. What's the next chapter? What,

how do you escalate it from I am the reason Putin owns Russia? I know. How? Space politics. Space See now we're getting an interesting choice. Yeah. Eventually he's going to have to escalate it to off world. Oh my God. Imagine disclosure happens, right? Imagine the government is like, yeah, we're we've been in contact with aliens. Steve's going to have to up his game totally. He knows all these aliens. He's the one who negotiated the original treaties with the aliens as soon as God. Why did all tomorrow have to go down aliens? I would love it. I want disclosure to happen now just because of that. Yeah, it's got to happen. Come on, government. We need Steve's work here. Yes. All right. So yours is secondary.

You're bullshit about hiding secrets secondary to what bullshit Steve's going to make up. Yeah, you are a roadblock in terms of our sort of interesting improvisational storytelling that we need to Steve take page. Absolutely. Come on, government. Yes, and us here. So that was the emergency report. I don't think watching it. I got convinced that there was an emergency or that January 6th is a false flag. I was convinced of things I already knew. One Alex is a spineless worm. Yeah. Yeah. Agreed. Agreed. Steve is an anti-semitic lunatic. Yeah. Nick Fuentes is a racist asshole. Whoa. And Alex has nothing else to do on Saturday except come in and maybe try and sell a few pills. Yeah. It does seem like maybe he didn't have the kids that weekend. Yeah.

Got to move a little product. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, we'll be back, Jordan. But until then, we have a website. We do have a website. It's KnowledgeFight.com. Yes. We are also on Twitter. We are on Twitter. Is that KnowledgeUnderstanding. We're fighting that. Go to bed, Jordan. What's on Facebook? We are on Facebook. Tell us. Show us. And if you could, please find a local charity or bail fund in your area to help out people doing God's work. Yeah. We'll be back. But until then, I'm Neo. I'm Leo. I'm DZX. Clark. I'm Daryl Rundis. I installed. Damn it. I can't remember what the name of the king from Skyrim was. I put that guy in power. Okay. Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding.

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