Knowledge Fight - #569: June 23, 2021

Episode Date: June 25, 2021

Today, Dan and Jordan discuss Alex Jones' knee-jerk reaction to the breaking news of John McAfee's death.  Also, the gents discuss some of Alex's other hijinks from the past week.

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We're a couple dudes. Sit around to worship at the altar of Celine and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Oh indeed we are Dan. I was about to say Salter of Celine. I heard it. I was going to let it go but you know now that you've brought it up I noticed it. Dan I have a quick question for you. What is your bright spot for today?

My bright spot today Jordan very exciting announcement. So this is something that I've been meaning to get to for a while but there have been technical difficulties which is code for my printer hasn't worked. Sure. I've been wanting to do this again. We did it a like maybe a couple months back six months back gave some buttons to folks sent them out and I wanted to do another run of these. Okay.

We have some new designs are themed around the cult of Celine. Excellent. And I would like to announce officially that we're going to be doing another run of these buttons for folks and here's how it's going to work because last time this completely screwed up all of my inbox and I am not interested in that a little bit. Yeah. So I've started a new email address that is specifically for this. You do not have to be someone who gives to the show.

You do not have to be anything. It just anybody if you would send your your your address I will do have to be capable of email that is the one limitation on this and you have to send me an address to send a button to well true and then I will take care of everything else and you will have a button sent to you. The email address is kfbusiness at gmail.com and that's spelled K F B I Z N E S S K F business let's K F to business at gmail.com if you send an address to that there's going to be a little bit of time you know obviously sure gotta make these up so there could be a little

bit of a delay but we will get this in the works get some envelopes with your addresses on them and get these buttons sent out to you. I'm very excited. I really I know that last time we did this one of the things that I discovered was I was really really enjoying the process of making the meditation of buttons. Yes there was a thing to the crafting of it and the the sort of the repetitive sure sure junk Zen in the art of button making yeah yeah and I feel like we're in a safer place now to there's a lot of precautions that we took the last time around true with wearing

gloves while making the everything and now it feels a little bit you know we can chill out a little bit and just send out a nice gift just send out some buttons yeah so I'm very excited about that and if you all want to send in some addresses with those buttons now admittedly this time his gloves will be on and they will be coated with anthrax so it's a little bit of a different problem I met an Elvis impersonator and he had some ideas what about you Jordan my bright spot is it's it's low it's in the early stages it's not a super bright spot but after a year of writing nothing but mean things to Taylor Swift and stories about wizards I've started a new project that's great it's much larger hopefully it'll

be about the size of the book I put out last year so that's spectacular yeah and if it's any longer people will definitely not finish it so I'm fine with that here's the inspiration yes I'm very excited clink yes absolutely well I wish you the best with that yes me too so Jordan today we have an episode to go over and it's a it's a little bit of a challenge it was it was a tough it was a tough challenge for me and here's what happened okay so George Alex was out of studio at the beginning of this week he was in New York and I mean I think you're allowed in New York maybe yeah doesn't leticia have people on the border we'll see I think that a lot of people probably that's the first thing their mind would go to yes is that he's probably going to deal with some

sort of illegal issue with the attorney general of New York with James who he has threatened on air multiple times and of course he had the cease and desist for some of the products that he was selling and I think that there is a possibility that that's the case so you know like you suspiciously went to Connecticut yes yeah yeah yeah recently it's like oh why'd you go there yeah yeah maybe something to do with one of your court cases it's possible but also he was going there to do a podcast he went on that flagrant to podcast oh yeah when he was drunk last time well he said all the weird stuff well yeah he was so drunk last time that I don't even care to cover it yeah and and so like he went there you could think like maybe he's going there for some legal issue

but then also maybe he's just doing this podcast sure and so that was a possibility maybe we cover that episode sure simultaneously kill tony the podcast had alex as a guest oh tony hinchcliff noted uh uh asian slur purveyor yeah hasn't anybody taken uh uh taken that towards his career yes actually tony's career actually do that well I mean that's my new podcast he did get dropped by his age well that's good we're on our way is yes I mean like so we've at least maimed tony's career yeah I mean I don't think it'll matter because the cult of rogan enterprises has him ensconced under their umbrella um yeah so tony hinchcliff is a writer guy and comedian who he formally wrote for the wwe such and he's one of rogan's buddies

and he's one of the ones who decided to go to austin because their bread is buttered in a very specific place yeah yeah there's no reason to be in LA anymore people don't like me there no bye texas is where i'm welcome my career revolves around joe rogan joe rogan's going to texas I am too that's so sad no it's not I think I think it's people understanding where their cottage industry oh no totally I'm talking about the specifics of my career revolves around joe rogan you can do worse yeah that's true so kill tony is a podcast that he does that grew out of this open mic at the comedy store I believe it was called potluck night or something something like that yeah and so like they just I guess they just decided like let's find a way to monetize this

and so yeah they monetized an open mic not terrible yeah of the business decisions for an open mic that one's probably the best I've ever heard sure I've listened to a number of episodes of it because there was a morbid curiosity on my part and like it would back you know a ways back not just just recently but you know the show is basically you've got you got tony you got his producer brian redban and then you got a guest a celebrity comedian guest and they just act like hot shit while they just talk to comic it does a minute of material which is impossible to tell no no that's all you need that's all you need that's all you need to know if you've got it yeah and then then the guests and the hosts will fuck around and act cool and generally be overly encouraging

of some things and overly mean to anybody who doesn't fit into their like their box yeah and it's just dumb and I I wanted to cover it kind of because I felt like all right this could be fun uh this could be a fun thing to do an episode about but so much of the episode is like about other people stand-up sure and open mic stand-up sense and I don't want to cover that and alex was the guest he wasn't doing a minute yes he was he was the guest judge okay um and so like I guess I have this drop I want some of that Joe Rogan weed so there's that okay all right I guess I have this drop once a year what yeah I have this drop you have a beautiful vagina have a nice night I guess we got that out of it great there's a part where uh where alex smells some girls feet

who's in the audience cool call her up on stage because one of the open micers has a foot fetish and then they get somebody with a foot to smell and I don't I don't know great yeah that's not an episode great great I'm loving every part of this right up my alley I'm sure alex had some insightful criticisms for the comedians um there's one guy who had some dumb jokes alex is like I'm drunk but that was a very cerebral set okay well I enjoyed that there is some insightful criticisms there yeah I think actually surprisingly at least at the beginning he was a little bit more thoughtful than uh Tony yeah well or uh red band yeah well familiarity breeds contempt if you will it's very difficult for me because

you know critiquing some of this stuff within the comedy space is always going to be walking in molasses sure there's not like the people will just hide behind the like it's comedy I'm just joking right whatever stuff and I don't know it I was listening to the kill Tony and I thought like I have a lot of complaints about this but who cares yeah I kind of feel like maybe uh listening and criticizing a podcast that's about listening and criticizing comedians is open like open mic comedians is just a waste of everyone's time yeah it felt it felt like challenging uh oh nay impossible yes to make uh worth listening to yeah yeah yeah um and so I was like well maybe we'll do a little bit about that episode of flagrant too sure you know why not this

is a little bit longer this is a conversational piece yeah I want to know what their feet smell like Alex was so drunk on the first time that I just didn't want to cover it this time is a little bit better um but I couldn't handle listening to it it's so annoying and look I think that the the hosts actually make a couple of pretty decent jokes oh okay like I can see a little bit of why if that's what you like that's fine okay if you okay if you like broy edgy comedy sure or whatever sure sure where people are talking to talking about uh hey I had a threesome last week or whatever like what if you enjoy that then I can see you know this being up your alley sure it was insufferable for my purposes um Alex takes his shirt off at one point early oh boy early early and one of the

hosts what is he but did he see burt christier on kill tony get this what one of the hosts calls him burt christier okay well there we go and then the other host makes the joke did you say burt crisis actor which is not bad see it's not bad wordplay it's not bad wordplay I understand the wordplay I understand the wordplay but see it's funny because Alex ruined a bunch of people's lives see these guys are just joke they're making jokes to Alex right right right and not critiquing him about how he ruined a bunch of people's lives by calling them crisis actors no it's hilarious yeah it's fine no whenever you leave a wake of misery and destruction what you should do with that is like make it a funny little bit that you can pun off of yeah it's hilarious yeah everybody will be like

holy shit I can't believe he pulled it off yeah yeah so I mean like look it's obviously only funny because you're talking about something monstrous that the person next to you did right right right but that said fine wordplay um anyway I I really struggle more like Iraq bore George W bush all right let's all have a fun side that's a fun joke to make in a friendly conversation with George W bush yes exactly very funny yeah oh man that genocide you are who let me see your pictures are dumb all right so uh we have a couple things that I'm going to talk about towards the end of the episode from the flagrant podcast because I think there were even you know like as much as it's just like ah these guys are just bullshitting and having fun and whatever I don't care I don't I don't

care yeah but there are a couple of salient points that I think could be brought up and you know whatever we'll talk about that at the end of the episode but gotcha thankfully what something happened that's breaking news and Alex had to weigh in on it and so that's what we'll be talking about today a special report that Alex put out last night as we're recording this Wednesday evening all right um so this is a last minute is it an emergency report on something that was reported roughly a year ago that we're finally talking about no no no this is actually breaking news okay you know what we're gonna talk about well yeah obviously anyway we're gonna get to this but before we do let's uh say hello to some new walks oh that's a good idea so first

chavez why chavez thank you so much you're now policy wonk i'm a policy wonk thank you chavez why thank you next uh alex and blunderland thank you so much you're now policy wonk i'm a policy wonk thank you alex and blunderland next chris and then this is an alias here jordan's laughter is sweet sweet music thank you so much you're now a policy wonk i'm a policy wonk thanks chris uh next dimer this is paul give dan some money thank you so much you're now a policy wonk i'm a policy wonk i don't endorse that message okay so dimer this is paul okay uh and then uh little technocrat shout out going out to who i don't know how to say this maybe dicey dico bros d i e c o b r o s okay thank you so much dice bros oh yeah you're now technocrat

i'm a policy wonk crikey mate that's fantastic have yourself a bro how's your 401k doing bro all right we gotta go full tilt buggy on this watch and all right let's just get down to business we ain't making that money off that heroin why are you pimp so good my my neck is freakishly large i declare info war on you thank you so much yes thank you very much now jordan yes sir we have to get contemplative okay giving someone life is giving someone death you could say that life is death you could so first fiona got a birthday this week so happy birthday fiona happy birthday fiona uh laura and lisa reached out wanted to wish ron a happy birthday happy

birthday ron a happy birthday ron yeah uh cooper got a birthday coming up jillian says happy happy birthday coops also i'd like to wish a happy 21st anniversary to heather and philip also known as captain awesome okay together they're known as captain awesome i probably misery and miz awesome okay all right well that's good also i checked into this you know the the hallmark recommends yearly anniversary gift sure sure they got the paper anniversary that's first anniversary right right right right what do you think the 21st is because i i i i checked into this just to be sure is it like brass or something is it one of those it's brass but it's specifically like a tuba it's like that it's that kind of all mark hallmark recommends a 21st tuba anniversary

gotcha 34th anniversaries would win yes of course naturally yes no it's a themed gift surrounding the idea of fire so okay that's an interesting uh all right um so let's go with uh i mean i have a tattoo of a firebender's symbol so we've got that you can get yourself some firebending tattoos sure i think that's a great idea talk to zuko uh get that out you know what i'm saying sure yeah fire-based gifts light your house on fire and uh uh finally uh black dragon queen christy oh our old friend christy uh happy birthday coming up happy birthday this weekend uh and also end of last month end of uh end of may uh christy and uh rosbon monti celebrated their 30th anniversary no shit what what in god's name do you get like a pair of timpani for that what what kind of are

we just doing orchestral anniversary 30th anniversary is office or desk decor that's a lie that's actually the 41st anniversary the 41st so so you're telling me that i'm somewhere at i mean conservatively in my 70s uh and you're getting me some office equipment so in the even in hallmark's world you work till death absolutely there is no retirement no social security no office equipment uh 30th is apparently pearls uh from what this is saying i would rather have that one end your marriage at 30 why would you make it all the way to 41 you don't need office equipment 30 years is long enough you're gonna love 39th anniversary what's that one laughter well dan every day i celebrate my 39th anniversary yeah this is weird that is a weird list 53rd

anniversary that is that is the list 53rd 53rd you've made it a long time you're 53 years into a wow marriage i feel like keep in mind 40th anniversary is ruby right so okay 53 what is it so the decades are precious items yes 50th is gold and then the intervening years is is i guess at random it's a bunch of shit pulled out of a hat yeah i suppose so so what's 53 50 50th is gold 60th is diamond 60th is diamond 40th is ruby what's 53 53 i got to go with a marine creature plastic plastic plastic so you're telling me that i'm at 90 years old and i'm getting saran wrap for my anniversary if you're lucky all right if someone's following the hallmark recommendations thanks hall mark anyway happy anniversary christie and happy birthday uh also alex would like to remind everyone

that we were born dead yes life is death or something or something so uh jordan uh as you know the big news that was breaking yesterday is that john mackafee is no more yes or is he he was found deceased in a prison cell in spain sure or he had just gotten word that he would be extradited to the united states to face some criminal charges yeah i think if i were being extradited from spanish prison to united states prison i'd be like nah i'm out it's it's hard to say um but uh it's not if you're alex john mackafee did not kill himself in public statements and on his own twitter as early as just last week he said i will never commit suicide if i die in prison i have been murdered by the u.s government i'm gonna listen to a man i'm new and respected not the lying corporate

media that before his body's even cold you respect says it's a suicide with no corner or no inquest this thing seeks to high heaven just like jeffrey eppstein that's a good that's a good cold open to his special report that he put out that's pretty direct so even if we take his absolute gospel fact that mack if he said he would never kill himself he was the definition of an unhinged drug out lunatic who said complete bullshit essentially for a living i would never imagine that a man so respected as john mackafee would perhaps send out a dumb idea very quickly before he thought it through a couple of my favorite things that he said that were complete nonsense uh were you know like when he said that he had nothing to do with his neighbor in belize's murder no or that time that he said

that if bitcoin wasn't trading at five hundred thousand dollars within three years from july 17 he would quote eat his own dick on national television did he ever do that he didn't oh guess it's too late now some of his more recent work includes that time that he tried to create a publicity stunt hoax where he pretended to have been arrested for refusing to wear a mask wearing a lace thong on his face instead ah he's brilliant mackafee and his wife publicly claimed he'd been arrested in norway but the pictures that they posted as evidence of this were from the augsburg airport which is in germany the augsburg police told the media quote there has never been an arrest explaining that mackafee tried to enter germany but decided

not to and he was told that he would have to quarantine then he just created a bunch of bullshit on social media right and who could forget the ridiculous runs for the libertarian nomination for the presidential race or the very overt and transparent history of involvement in pump and dump cryptocurrency scams sure in fact that was one of the cases that mackafee was facing along with tax evasion which is what the us was looking to extradite him back from spain in order to prosecute him for soon before he was found dead a court ruled that he could be extradited to the united states and this actually really matters mackafee was 75 years old and he was facing essentially the rest of his life in prison for his fraud and tax crimes which he

absolutely would be convicted for yeah since there's a video that he released of himself where he confesses which might be tough to refute let's hear it i have not paid taxes for eight years i've made no secret of it i have not filed returns if you're i tell the rs i'm not filing return i have no intention of doing so come and find me yeah that that's gonna be tough you know what bums me out what bums me out so much is that we know for a fact that if you are rich you literally can get away with not paying taxes mm-hmm you know what i'm saying like we just got a new york times report sure about how you don't have to pay taxes if you're rich and the only way that you can fuck up if you're rich is if you're just an asshole like this

it's the only way there's one way it's some people are too defiant i guess i'll never pay taxes well then use any one of a million loopholes we've created for rich people to not have to do that it's about the principle of the thing then fine you're going to die in a spanish prison i don't know what to tell you mm-hmm this is on you it's basically like the the ceiling metaphorically which is taxes is coming down yes and uh there's an open door yes and it's like you want to go through that door it's open it's open there's nothing on the other side yes there's no punishments not a trap you'll just go out this is a loophole for the whole roof thing the whole thing i will not i will be crushed by this roof okay all right man i can't say with certainty that mac

ify died from suicide but if that does end up being the determination that experts end up making i'm not going to be surprised i wanted to get a sense of how the media was covering this death so i sampled some of the largest outlets that uh you know we're we're covering the story mm-hmm the headline in cnn was quote john mac ify found dead in spanish prison after his extradition to the united states was approved the article doesn't say that there's a known cause of death at all quote mac ify was found dead in his cell in a prison near barcelona on wednesday around one p.m. eastern and a medical examiner is on the scene a spokeswoman for the superior court of katalonia told cnn she said the cause of death is under investigation a statement from the katalonia

regional government justice department which manages prisons there said that prison medical personnel and guards attempted to perform lifesaving procedures after finding mac ify but were unsuccessful the statement said quote everything indicates unquote that mac ify could have died by suicide that article is eminently responsible and doesn't jump to any conclusions wildly so the bbc headline was quote john mac ify anti-virus creator found dead in prison cell the article also doesn't provide a cause of death but does mention that same press release quote the kanalan justice department said prison medics tried to resuscitate him but were not successful it's said in a statement that quote everything indicates unquote mac ify took his own life right the new york time story

as a headline quote john mac ify software pioneer turned fugitive dies in spanish prison they mentioned the primary source statement quote the justice department for the katalan region in spain said that pending an investigation it was treating his death as a probable suicide the npr story doesn't even talk about the katalonia justice department comment instead just reporting quote authorities are investigating the cause of death this article even goes out of its way to soften mac ify's image and turn him into some kind of a prankster type outlaw quote mac ify took pride in outwitting authorities he once boasted about eluding police by dressing as a german tourist in a speedo and another time as an angry homeless man it's like the npr version of this is is really like i mean

these things are true mac ify did do sure sure he did enjoy creating this outlaw right right on the run image of himself yeah outsmarting the police right and you know it's not wrong for npr to to report that but that seems to be the the angle that they're taking more yeah i would have include more of his uh bombastic psychotic criminal acts but i suppose if you want to paint him as a modern day world traveling catch me if you can type con artists fine yeah writers had this headline larger than life software mogul john mac ify dies in spain by suicide lawyer says this is because this story isn't about the actual death it's about mac ify's lawyer making a statement that mac ify died by suicide quote mac ify's lawyer javier villalba said the antivirus software pioneer

died by hanging as his nine months in prison brought him to despair even so even though this article is saying this the article does not say that this in fact was the cause of death only that mac ify's lawyer had said that it was none of these outlets are reporting anything definitive and the information that they have to go on is directly from primary source statements one from the catalonia justice department and one from mac ify's own lawyer this is responsible reporting of the facts i can't find examples of these folks rushing and jumping the gun to call this a suicide no i can hear every editor of every major outlet screaming we're not doing an epstein this time all right no fuck ups no epstein conspiracy theories but here here's why this looking at the

coverage is important alex is trying to rush and jump the gun on the conclusion that his death was not a suicide and in order to do that he needs to make the circumstances around the coverage seem as suspicious as possible alex is reporting a fiction which is that the media is immediately and without cause declaring mac ify's death a suicide because they're trying to cover something up because that kernel of suspicion is necessary for alex to use this story for his own purposes alex is an opportunist by nature and he needs to use everything he can for his largest benefit just last week alex was covering that reporter christopher sign's death as a definitive professional execution and his big prediction was that globalists are going to start killing people

like himself and tucker this situation with mac ify isn't a perfect fit but it's good enough for alex to use to claim that he was right so this absolutely cannot be a suicide yeah in infowars world yeah it's almost like it really doesn't matter how responsible the reporting of mainstream outlets is alex is just going to make it up on his own regardless yeah absolutely there's a real danger to this kind of behavior and it's in how alex's rhetoric has been shaped over the course of the past year and even further back honestly the covid pandemic has been declared the globalists big move and something that they can't undo this is the end game coming into reality which means that there's no going back alex has said that over and over in so many different constructions

victory or death no going back they've crossed the rubicon over and over and over again in different ways saying there's no going home again also i'm very very sorry hamdi that's on me i apologize i know i said i would die on that hill but listen my bad the rhetoric surrounding how this is like the end game and you know this is this is the big move yeah that's dangerous enough on its own and if alex is now going to start reporting stuff like people like macafe dying as the globalists killing off brave patriot leaders what's the logical leap he's expecting his audience to make he constantly talks about how everyone needs to keep lists of globalists in their town and be ready to take them out when things jump off how is killing off patriot leaders not the most

explicit evidence that things have jumped off that you could imagine yeah whether he means to do this or not is kind of irrelevant it's just part of the message that his audience is going to take from that as far as i can tell all we can really do is hope that the people who get that message aren't the type of listeners that he has who like to take action yeah because the only message you can get is once they're done with all of these people they're coming for you right so you might as well stop them now before they come for you yeah and and talking about like epstein as a murder a hillary murder or whatever is a little bit different even because that's like all right they're trying to cover up their tracks right or whatever it's not a direct assault on the patriot

folks true true these people that alex respects epstein wasn't a patriot no that's for sure he he's not like a macafe a libertarian anti-tax weirdo right who actually would go on info wars he really would is this uh is this uh is this really going to move the needle though i feel like macafe is just going to be a blip and then everybody's going to be like yeah i'm fine alex needed it to justify the previous coverage of his predictions of patriot leaders being killed so it's very important for that piece true he's got to sell it hard but second i don't think that at this point alex is aware that macafe's instagram posted a big q right after he died which is gonna complicate that's gonna make it a little weird that's gonna make it a little bit uh dicey yeah

so alex talks a little bit about how he uh he got to know uh macafe i got a chance to get to know macafe back in 2012 right after his escape from police into guatemala and found to be a larger than life type character then a few years later he came and visited us several times in austria texas i had a chance to go to dinner with him had a chance to go out shooting with him and he was even more larger than life in person the guy was definitely an american success story he made billions of dollars with his macafe anti-virus software so uh in terms of being an american success story uh macafe was born in england and he once told the bbc quote i feel as much british as i do american wow he founded macafe associates but he also sold that in 1994 and

since then it's not what i would call a glowing success story you know more like a cautionary tale or or just perhaps an evil motherfucker wandering around upsetting weird yeah that's a good way of putting it i'll take that one um so alex has a comparison a historical comparison that he makes that what a what a shock it has to do with booze a larger than life i would compare the guy to like captain morgan he's you know the side of the rum bottles i think the the the pirate and he certainly tried to go retired down a police and lived like a pirate captain henry morgan was a big old pile of shit i don't know if this is the person you'd want to be compared to in his later career he was employed by jamaica to keep uh privateers and pirates away from the area surrounding

the island they used to call him the jamaica from jamaica instead you're gonna compliment the two playground two what's jamaica jamaica uh never mind okay instead what he did is he decided to just demand money from pirates to allow them to come on to land sure so he just basically was like you got to pay me yeah he was running a protection racket basically yeah yeah he was an outrageous drunk and he declared martial law twice in a two-year span because of fears of a french invasion uh which it should be pointed out he was accused of collaborating with the french well after all that until his death morgan owned three slave plantations and spent a whole bunch of his time trying to enslave more black jamaicans he sucked yeah yeah but uh

you know now we venerate him for his booze i guess yeah that's good i would imagine that alex knows him as a pirate on a bottle of rum yeah i very much doubt the true story of captain morgan is high on anybody's list although i would guess that if alex knew some of these things he'd be like even more into him that's pretty cool man i would like to run my own island fortress and collaborate with the french to overthrow my own fucking home allegedly yes it's unclear okay that's fair so um alex i would hate to tarnish his name alex's big piece of evidence that he has really to go on uh about maccafee and how this could not possible this has got to be a murder it's the one time he tweeted out that i would never commit suicide and if i die in a prison it's because the united

states government murdered me that's tweets okay now he's dead and all we have is his last communications this year and last year and the year before saying he would never commit suicide here's another one from october of last year 2020 i am content here i have friends the food is good all is well this is in the barcelona prison know that if i hang myself a la epstein it will be no fault of mine so that's a second time he's saying i will not commit suicide and if i die in prison it's a setup that's the first instance that i heard in this report of alex uh having i don't know why he's saying this is the second time i think it's probably an editing screw up yeah i'm not sure so this tweet is probably the strongest evidence that alex has that maccafee didn't kill

himself since he said he wouldn't do that in october i accept this as something that makes sense on its face but i also don't think it proves anything john maccafee was one of the most unhinged unstable people in the public eye and it isn't necessarily wise to take most of the things he says without a giant grain of salt okay i can believe that in october he may have felt that he would never commit suicide but that was also eight months ago and a lot can change two persons mental state over the course of eight months particularly if they're in a foreign prison and maybe without the drugs that they generally do it could change your mindset maccafee has had a long history of being arrested in foreign countries or being wanted in foreign countries and getting away and going

on the run when he was a person of interest in his neighbor's murder and believes he fled the country and he got away with it more notably in 2019 he was arrested and released when he docked his boat in the dominican republic he was on the run from the united states for that old tax thing and he taken to living on his yacht i guess in international waters like some god damn andy daily character yeah that sounds fun yeah to kill time on the boat maccafee posted some pictures of himself with a bunch of big old guns this drew the attention of the dominican republic authorities when he tried to dock so he was arrested and held for four days and then he was released you know what i think about going on the run if i was running from the law i would try also very

hard to not be noticed see that would be part of my strategy of like i if i had the opportunity to tweet out something i would be like maybe people will notice this yes and i don't think i should do that so what you're saying that when you're on the run it's kind of like you're in the no flex zone you know i might even change my name or at the very least get a new twitter handle i'm trying to get rid of that blue check mark yeah i think it doesn't serve your interests of being on the run to like really publicize a bunch of that's uh yeah i'm living out on this boat with these giant guns all right no one will ever catch me this is impressing my instagram followers but might be working across purposes of my trying to there's be on the run i think that

might be why he got caught so many times maybe yeah john maccafee has a history of getting in trouble and then the consequences just disappear so in october just after he'd been arrested in spain if you're him there's no way you think you're gonna be in jail for the next eight months let alone end up extradited to the united states after that totally him posting that tweet i can see that kind of as shit posting i mean it might as well be him saying like i'll probably find a way to escape in a week yeah like that's what he's doing and tell some actual evidence can be presented to the contrary i see no reason to think that the simplest explanation here is isn't possible like john maccafee's luck had run out he was going to be returned to the united states and he was likely

going to be in prison for years he was a vagabond a world traveler a guy who flees countries and lives on boats the prospect of long-term incarceration seems like exactly the thing that he would find intolerable yeah fuck that there's a lot of questions that do remain to be answered but making this a hit team murder i think is going to be a really uphill battle for alex especially if the thing he's leading with is a tweet from eight months ago yeah i don't know i mean cuz because then you just get back to like really why why would they send a hit team yeah what's a hit team yeah you could i mean you know also like for maccafee also maccafee has very publicly on twitter in interviews said that he has a dead man switch yeah so like okay yeah okay fine yeah

that's like okay anybody who would want to kill him presumably because he has some kind of information that they want covered up would be like oh wait i don't want him to go on trial oh wait if he if he ends up getting killed then his wife is just going to release all of these sure docs or whatever yeah it's it's nonsense this is all just a spy novel yeah yeah and it's sad because like ultimately the the story is a tragic one i think i i mean you know to a certain extent you could just describe it as the quick destruction of one man's mind i don't know the consequences uh i think it's been long when you give them a lot of money don't think it was quick well this has been going on a while no i mean his mind was destroyed fairly quickly perhaps yeah so uh not only did he tweet once

he tweeted another time too here's another one that was put out in november of 2019 so a year before the one in 2020 and i quote i like subtle messages from us official saying in effect we're coming for you maccafee we're going to kill yourself it's a nice turn of raves we're going to ark inside you we're going to kill yourself i got a tattoo today just in case i am suicide myself i didn't i was whacked check out my right arm and there is again his tattoo with the money there in the wax saying why he was killed those tweets are real but also john maccafee was a delusional paranoid drug addict who promised to eat his own dick on tv as a way to promote cryptocurrency probably as part of a pump and dump activity this isn't compelling evidence of anything

like these tweets and him getting a tattoo that says dollar sign whacked it's not evidence to me of anything other than maccafee was unwell yeah and maybe those weren't turns of phrase so much as typos and poor grammar swacked yeah could have something made and i might not be so much the well done uh uh authorly talents of maccafee i would love if alex did also try to go through maccafee's yeah just start reading just start going through his twitter fault try and explain some of this yeah yeah yeah go for it go for it let's let's all start talking about whale fucking that's what needs to be in the public eye so alex needed to jump in front of this really fast right he needed to get a narrative out and can't let the cement dry on this one no no no

no within minutes of him being announced dead we're told it's a suicide just like we were told with breitbart it was a heart attack before his body was even cold and no corners examination and the corner that finally looked at him that was poisoned by arsenic and died political assassination is a very real thing in america a very real thing around the world so i already talked about this the the outlets that alex thinks are in on this conspiracy did not report that it was a suicide within minutes there was dry matter of fact coverage of the catalonian statement and then eventually reuters reported the statement that was made by maccafee's lawyer i strongly suspect that alex's claim that within minutes it was called a suicide is based on random tweets he saw

that sounds meaningless most likely we did a whole episode about the day after andrew breitbart died and nothing alex is saying is real about that case either the media didn't immediately call it a heart attack and the initial reporting that was it was suspected to be a heart attack the place that came from and the direct line that everyone was quoting was a press release put out by breitbart's own website yeah there's no conspiracy there as for the coroner thing that was just a conspiracy narrative that's based on nothing this was about the death of michael kormier the a person who worked at the coroner's office the problem is that he had nothing to do with breitbart's autopsy and the amount of arsenic he had in his system was so large that one of the detectors on the case said

it'd be impossible to poison someone without much arsenic without them noticing and people were pretty confused by that yeah yeah alex can't prove that kormier's death was a poisoning uh or like an intentional poison sure sure and he can't prove that breitbart didn't die from a heart attack all he can do is pull it strings real or imagined in order to create a sensational storyline that fits his purposes one of the most important aspects of this uh is the narrative that the media immediately calls these deaths suicides or in breitbart's case a heart attack because that implies that there's a cover-up and if there's a cover-up that means that there's something to cover-up and that means that it's a murder yep in breitbart's case alex was just making up that the immediate uh

the media immediately called it a heart attack and in this case he's doing the same thing with macphie's death it's a pattern of behavior that exists not because he's responding to real reporting but because he's operating from a pre-existing script regardless of what any media outlet published about macphie's death as soon as alex heard that he was dead he knew the angle was that the media immediately called it a suicide totally and that's suspicious yeah the rest of this video is is kind of i mean here alex is just defending himself this is nonsense of course he's talking about himself i think the evidence is overwhelming that john macphie was targeted he told us why and was killed in a spanish prison for the cryptocurrency they believe he had or

for other secrets but regardless his work will live on promoting libertarian ideas basic freedom what like for the cryptocurrency they're they just want his money he doesn't have that much money he might have a bunch of bitcoin or something i have no idea but i'm sure he has tons of money but the people we're talking about are like multi-billionaires macphie wasn't a multi-billionaire right right right if the globalists were trying to kill him for his money that's silly yeah second i don't it's not like you can kill someone and then automatically you just get their bitcoin yeah no you see you don't understand how blockchain works it operates under highlander rules if you cut off somebody's head the power immediately it's the quickening it's the bittening it's

basically like in assassin's creed when you have auto loot yes exactly yeah yeah yeah when it picks it up for you yeah it's perfect um yeah so alex is saying that the evidence is overwhelming and and i i listen to this i see no evidence none i see a couple of tweets i see the most reasonable course of action being the explanation for events yeah it's the one that makes the most sense to me yeah i mean if i'm 75 i'm a globe traveling rich dude who's escaped over and over and over again you've got now i'm you've gotten outrageously lucky totally you've lived probably one of the most insane lives imaginable absolutely full of adventure in foreign countries ducking and dodging totally uh boxing above your weight class forever and what are you gonna

what are you gonna get you're gonna get another 10 years of life in an american prison that's awful you don't want to do that so fucking off yourself it makes sense i mean it does as tragic as that is and as much as i don't want to minimize you know people who are struggling with suicidal ideation i don't think there's no way out or anything like that it is imaginable to put yourself in maciphees position and be like the indignity of the trial yep the damage that the trial would do to the things that he has made the most important parts of his life like cryptocurrency yep um you could see taking the outdoor yeah i i i i don't know i think i'm not making any assumptions i'll let the information guide me to whatever confusion is there um but based on the statement

from the catalonian justice department based on the statement from his lawyer that they are saying this is an apparent suicide yeah i don't see a reason to doubt that the only reasons to doubt that are nutty tweets from somebody who tweeted nutty shit all the time yeah i'm not going to take that right right right that's not going to stand up in any kind of court even the court of my mind oh this lying liar said something i guess i must believe it yeah yeah i i i just i i got nothing here i think the further and and maybe larger problem for me is i just don't care i just don't care that maciphee like he's just not important he's like a sideshow it's like it's like a carnival barker uh it's like well i'm just i just don't see i just don't see the power that alex is

thinking that he can wield through this you know what i mean yeah that that i get what you're saying and i'm not super interested in the case itself as much as i am the behavior and what it illustrates totally i think that the important thing to take away from this is really understanding that alex put out this report that night because well we talk about that concrete idea the idea that when concrete is wet a leaf that falls on it could leave a permanent impression you got it and the information space is fairly similar and uh when when a story when the details aren't out when there isn't like solidified information surrounding stuff you can make a indentation in that concrete yeah a lot of people are going to think that subway has never used tuna in their sandwiches

exactly it's already happened it's too late now and with this alex is trying to put into his audience's mind before there's any solid information that the media immediately reported that it was a suicide and that's suspicious because maciphee tweeted some crazy shit that's and that you know it's a consistent behavior yeah it's it's one of the most kind of worrying and disgusting things is that the conservative media has so insulated their listeners and viewers and the like that they can make claims about any other media because they know you're not going to go check you didn't listen you don't read the the papers what what person who is reading info wars articles is then going to be like and now i'll switch over to the reuters article

that's not happening so you can just make any fucking claim that you want about what the media said because they'll believe anything you say about what the media said you own the mainstream media if you are in the conservative sphere it's a puppet that you can wield exactly and and even if you are like an alex jones listener and you go check the reuters story you'll see the headline larger than life software mogul john mac if he dies in spain by suicide lawyer says there you go and you'll ignore the part in the headline that says lawyer says why would you be like oh they are reporting that he died exactly you know and it's yeah it's it's it's a trap and it's a trap that's used intentionally yeah because the false version of this story or the presumptive

version of this story is useful for alex yeah no it's one of their most powerful weapons controlling the narrative that they're telling you is the narrative they're selling that's just that's that's complete control over information yeah you know it's just it's just ironclad you can't escape from that so it's a real bummer so i think a lot of people probably were reflecting on some things when mac if he the news broke sure certainly i was taking a nap and i woke up yeah and i had a text from a friend uh telling me about this news and my immediate response was well i bet hillary did this did hillary do it um maybe okay all right all right jerry's still out on that yeah i think some people had some fun remembering that time he said that he was going to eat his dick yeah on

television that was good times but for alex he had a slightly different response a lot of our interviews with him over the years were on youtube twitter and facebook dozens of them got banned and knocked off we'd never re-uploaded them to band.video this reminded us to so we're going to create a john mackavy archive page and we'll post all the interviews we've done with him and any other interviews that are out there that have been censored and so we're going to put a few of the interviews on the tail end of this right now when we're shooting with him my first interview with him in 2012 and then we'll endeavor to post some of the other archives in a john mackavy section again at band.video we're going to juice this thing oh man guys i just got to let you know

the iron's hot and we better be striking yeah she's no one has told me that uh his instagram posted a cue quick quick exploit this quick we need a new page we need to get traffic to that page and we need to fill it with ads somebody call steve pechenik and tell him to pretend he was on the yacht yes exactly uh all right i'm waiting to find out that stevy peas is the one who orchestrated the assassination of mackafee he's been getting out of pocket now my people in katalonia yeah exactly all right okay steve so like you already sort of suspected and i think anyone would uh alex does have to make this about himself sure and you know it makes sense he's in a big season right now about how he's under threat yes and the globalists are going to come for him

and they're going to like kill his family and set him up for it or whatever we heard this like a week ago on his show makes sense and so he can't not take this opportunity to restress that theme not just when he closing want to say to listeners we've been getting a lot of threats a lot of attacks by the globalists as well they are making their move worldwide they're killing so many reporters so many journalists so it'll be a thousand percent a trillion percent clear to infinity i will never commit suicide i will never kill myself and if i'm found dead in a jail cell or if i'm found dead in a hotel room with a needle in my arm or anything like that it is the deep state that did it and i want them held accountable if anything happens to me look at

bill gates hillary clinton the deep state of the new world order they are the enemies of america the enemies of humanity and they're the ones that have long histories of syrios criminal activity and ever being held accountable so if anything happens to me the thunderbolts are striving what the godfather says blame those people so you know maybe this hillary could be could be i would i would prefer if every time he was like if they find me with a needle in my arm if he just got really specific into what kind of drugs and alcohol he's doing if they find me in a hotel surrounded by three empty bottles of jack daniels you know they killed me that is their fault 100 percent because i'm a jamesy man exactly yes everybody knows it so this is the only actual

content and analysis that alex put out it's as boilerplate as you can get there's more information that's yet to come out and alex knows that once that information is available his job of rewriting this narrative is going to be next to impossible the only time to act is immediately so you get this a rushed formulaic meaningless insistence that maccavie didn't kill himself based on a couple of years old tweets it just doesn't matter it and this episode i think is is is still salient and i think it's important to do because it's important to recognize these tricks yeah this is a key trick that alex uses and the one thing that i find fucking exciting and i haven't you know we we're recording this during the day on thursday so we haven't had time to listen to the end of the

week shows of his i want to know how he incorporates that q on extra because that's going to be tough yeah alex has already said that q anon is a globalist intelligence operation yeah seems like this is going to be something he has to either ignore sure or maybe it's the globalists taunting people on maccafee's instagram could be could be it could be that they put it on there to claim responsibility for his murder that way they put the q on there so alex knows that it's the globalists who are doing it you know could be that that could be an option for him it's gonna be it's gonna be an interesting needle to see him thread and i'm i'm excited to not really all that excited but i think it'll be interesting maybe maybe actually we're just finally figuring out the real spelling of

john maccavi it's m q a f e maybe and he had to change it for the software maybe it's him admitting that he's cute it could be i don't think so probably but it could be um so that's that's it for the maccafee coverage um sort of exactly what you'd expect yeah a little underwhelming yeah um whatever yeah it would be nice if there was one you know when the when the cement is this soft and you can really just pull off whatever you want i want one big swing you got to give us at least one big swing of like a a perpetrator or a group of people or or something other than just like the globalists in bill gates and they wanted his crypto yeah yeah there needs to be a good story behind it that you've got you know you can't just be like oh well the media is lying

you have to give me a better story especially when you're lying about what the media is saying yeah when you're not even doing the bare bones of your job making up uh media coverage in order to justify your made-up shit right right right it's just stupid give me something give me like uh oh did you know that brian stelter was in spain last month and then we and then we're like aha now i've got it yeah yeah give me something like that did somebody was in spain around that time is what you've got to give me yeah that would be good yeah but no one was in spain however alex problem was in new york okay uh so we went out to do this this this uh flagrant two podcast and you know i don't know flagrant two is a giant podcast but at the same time it's still like

joe rogan junior varsity sure sure he can't get on rogan uh at least not regularly yeah or or not enough right and so you know he can get on kill tony sure sure that's not gonna move the needle enough no no so you know you get you get this publicity tour he goes all the way to new york presumably either to do this podcast or to do this podcast and and something else maybe have a deposition or something who knows um but yeah i i just i don't know it's it's it's really hard for me to cover these sorts of appearances that alex does because it's like all right i get that this is an attempt at a joke right and i don't think it's funny right i think the subject matter sucks yeah probably um somewhere on the bigoted spectrum yeah and whatever sure you know like yeah i oppose

i oppose this joke i oppose the message that's underlying this joke but i don't know like where where is the line of free speech it's objectionable speech to me but you know youtube should be able to decide whether they want it on the platform or not but in terms of in terms of our conversation it becomes it becomes a total mess when you're trying to criticize failed or uh if he attempts at humor yeah i mean it's it's what we don't cover shows that are just bros talking all too often yeah you know like bros riffin doesn't sound interesting or really that that like newsworthy i suppose the exception is like when alex is on rogan and that's just kind of like because it's a vent yeah level of yeah and and because alex really goes for it he does um and and and so like i was listening to

this and i was like well okay we do cover alex when he's on rogan and so like maybe this is something that we should you know like al he he is a guest on this show yeah i mean if he makes if he if he's got something to say then i want to hear it if he doesn't have anything to say then he doesn't have much to say well i want to play like the beginning this is how it starts uh alex spoiler alert comes out wearing tin foil around his arms like bracers that is not funny what's up everybody and welcome to flavor two i am incredibly excited we have a major major guest huge guest huge guest uh probably one of the biggest actresses on the planet we figured it a real icon we figured because it is uh woman's empowerment month i believe it's woman's empowerment we bring on maybe the most powerful

woman in the galaxy some might say i'm incredibly excited everybody right now i wonder who it is for gal gado everybody wonder woman is here flavor two wonder woman we have wonder woman yeah so alex comes out with a bunch of tin foil on him and it just turns into a protracted transphobic joke uh it's it's uh it's a load of nonsense but it's like it i i get this thing where it's imagine right before they started recording alex is like here's what i'm gonna do i'll put on a wig and some tin foil i'm gonna pretend to be wonder woman like that's an idea he had and then these guys were like that'll be great we gotta do that that'll be great and you know what we're gonna sell it yes oh boy and you know like here's alex taking his shirt off you could take that you could take

that shirt off if you want out yo just go dog i see you sweating just go take it off take it off take it off take you guys want to see this woman's beautiful body yeah show them fucking heavies so it's moments like this that just like really highlight to me how much of like a duplicitous game everyone is playing yeah like alex is there to try to launder his extremist beliefs to a gullible audience and he's also trying to bring more customers into his revenue stream of course simultaneously these dudes know that if you get alex to do sensational things it leads to increased attention and traffic if you get him to run around without his shirt on you might end up going viral on twitter like that could be a meme that could turn into something that

is a long-lasting reaction gif meme or whatever that's better advertising than you could ever pay for totally totally so there's there's this whole game that both of them are playing that is promotional in in in nature and it's just like okay i guess you're trading the possibility of having these moments for willingly or unknowingly selling your audience to alex yeah okay cool i just can't believe that people would want to listen to the same social dynamic that one would see at a fucking elementary school alex might as well be eating worms a drunk elementary yeah just like eat the worms eat the worms eat the it's the same fucking thing alex is there to be humiliated for them to exploit and then they laugh at him and he acts i mean it's so no it's so degrading no

no i'm degraded well you're gonna eat even more degraded oh no because alex is about to talk about his dick oh god bro you got a nice little bulge out you got a nice pecker bro i have the largest micro penis in north america now women get blown away by it it looks like a grub worm with air muscle but you've seen whoa you've seen like like like like seriously like those little balloons you about the story get really big that's me so you you're a grower man women go they go this is a trick dick they didn't like to miss like this hurts i got a trick dick so it starts out small and then surprises them later on it was like a turtle head it goes in yeah yeah actually goes in yeah so i thought i got you know then it comes out uh huh this is not good riffing and it's unbecoming

of someone in alex's position to act like this yeah yeah it's just imagine this juxtaposed with him fucking preying on air i i got a trick dick i mean it's so much like i immediately get flashbacks to like early on do and stand up working with a established clean comic headliner and it's me and a young female comic she she and i are about the same level of talent and then we're at the bar afterwards and he starts telling creepy ass fucking jokes right to her face that is so fucked up and inappropriate and you're like this is not okay that is what i'm hearing alex do right now that creepy ass shit where he presents himself one place as being a pious god-fearing man and then when there's a social situation where he can fucking take advantage of his goddamn

position in in the hierarchy to fuck around with people and i hate it it really lights me up i think i think that there's some of that and then there's some of it too that is just wanting to have people think that you're interesting by kind of like over sharing yeah and i think that early on in my time doing stand-up i kind of was susceptible to that and i i certainly would say more stuff on stage than i would be comfortable with now sure you know like i there's a sort of an extra version of like let it all out there man yeah i'm a i'm a truth teller and i think that that was partially because a youth idiocy and not taking myself seriously enough to know that this wasn't appropriate yeah um alex is 47 years old he's been doing this as a he's been a

investigative truth teller reporter for 27 years yes he thinks he's fighting the literal devil he thinks that governments want to kill him yep and uh he's still like acts like i did hey you gotta laugh when i was an early look doing comedy you know what when you're so stressed out you need an outlet and that outlet is telling two weird bros while they mock you to your face that you've got a weird penis that makes perfect sense i guess i mean it should i i i guess i i guess if you know people want to look at him as yeah i don't know um the thing that i i i kept flashing to was these people like these these hosts of flagrant and i would say even rogan probably is this way or tony henchcliffe they have an image of alex as this yeah the drunk guy who talks about his

dick or yells about aliens or like tells them some weird subsection they've never heard of and is like i'm blow your mind i'm blow your mind let me tell you i talk to i talk to the weather weapon guy you know like that that's the image that they have of him and that's what they think his show is they haven't listened to his actual show probably not no they don't know and when alex comes on these types of shows he's not crying about fighting the devil right he's not like yelling all his racist shit he's he's not doing what he does on his show if these people actually listen to alex's show they would either be bored out of their mind or they'd be like wait a second this is what alex does uh i'm not sure i want to be associated with this you know i

don't know alex's years long trojan horse quest to get people to give their life to jesus yeah do you think that people like these hosts are like would be like oh i want to be a part of this bringing people to god i mean here's what i could see this i could see them all in their mind because they are all the i mean what what the names of the people that we're dealing with are all traffickers in toxic masculinity by trade so i could definitely see them being like oh you know we just play it up on our show alex just plays it up on his show and in real life he's this guy so it's okay for us to be cool with him despite not realizing all of the fucking destruction that his show does just because it's he's a character on the show means it's okay for them to be like

ah you know what we'll have him on our show see where he's the real guy see that's great and i applaud that except the reverse yeah i was gonna say please do not applaud that that's fucked up yeah if someone were to make that argument i think that that's what i'm that's what i'm saying i'm saying these people are worse than you give them credit for yes because if the argument is that it's a character and this is the real alex that we're hanging out with bro and down with about our dicks like okay then that person that you're broing down with is a psychopath yes yes and they are two yeah i mean you could absolutely see them saying something like you know the joke the crisis actor joke is funny because it's not alex's fault it's people taking

alex too seriously who went too far with all that sandy hook stuff alex is an entertainer man if people take it too seriously it's not alex's fault just like when people take our stuff too seriously and it's like no we're making a joke sure i talked i made a quote unquote joke about raping a woman but that was a joke i don't know why people are taking it too fucking seriously it's that type of shit they even do uh you know touch on that a little bit everybody takes me out of context i find that to be a pretty boring argument because i've listened to hundreds and hundreds of hours of alex's show i think i got a pretty good sense of what's an actual position and what's him fucking around yeah and i don't take things that he's fucking around about all

that seriously yeah um i think that argument is is thin no i i would say it's a self-serving and a delusional argument that helps you go to sleep at night because what you're actually doing is exposing people to a fucking monster yeah yeah and you're helping make it easier for people to accept the bad arguments and the awful things that alex does believe yep by presenting him in a way that's uh positive that's sociable that is like hey we're having fun he's like and allowing him to perpetuate things that just explicitly aren't true it's like if renfield had a fucking podcast like he's putting dracula on man he's gonna push dracula on you well i mean if you want to use alex's own own language yeah so i mean but there's just things that like you allow him to perpetuate that

aren't true so they're talking about cool bear and like why cool bear isn't funny anymore and here's what alex says they admit like charles schumer the senator of new york calls him and says what you're being his bits no that's in the news no same thing with that's almost unbelievable late night guys you should be really funny no wonder why aren't they funny now they admit in the news that they get calls from democrat spokespersons and like senator schumer goes i'd like you to talk to this guy he's my cousin he's a funny guy and those guys know that corporately their job and their contract is pursuant to a weird new york senator you imagine like a senator calls him oh andrew i kind of like to see this in your piece you say fuck you man yeah you imagine like i'm out of like

okay senator schumer says i'm supposed to say this now here's schumer's joke so this old man can sit there and watch you go i control that young man this is entirely about jimmy kimmel discussing on air how he'd spoken with chuck schumer about the affordable care act which you might recall was a super important thing to jimmy because his son lives with a congenital heart defect so he was discussing on air uh this piece that he did uh about how the coverage of pre-existing conditions really matters in a very concrete way yes kimmel was taking issue with the graham cassidy bill which sought to get rid of part some of the provisions of the aca and in preparation he got some assistance from chuck schumer's office about the bill's details alex has taken that

kernel from 2017 and embellished it now to the point where he's telling these dudes that schumer is basically the booker and head writer for all late night shows this isn't joking around and it's not even in the territory of embellishment for effect this is just a lie that alex is specifically deploying to convince these people's audience uh that uh you know all non-crazy entertainment is just secret globalist programming and they're they're reacting to it with like no way that's almost unbelievable and you're like why wouldn't you stop for one second and go that is unbelievable yeah no yeah no i i mean alex even gave you an example for you to be like i know people in comedy of course they too would say fuck you chuck schumer you're not funny and and the hosts of

these show this show the two dudes who are the main hosts of it one of them used to be on mtv's guy code and the other one was on wild and out oh boy they're comedians and people who have worked yeah like they have done you know people in the industry yes all of whom would do that regardless of whatever political affiliation you have and the comedians are very very aggressive about you shutting the fuck up and they probably have some exposure to some of the things that alex is being completely duplicitous about totally and and it's just not worth it to have an actual conversation about it yeah i don't think if you've been on the guy code or wild and out or that kind of stuff there's no way you haven't interacted with people who literally work at snl or colbert or the like

like that's they're there they're there ever yeah i mean that's bananas and that means you know chuck schumer yeah well that means they're taking orders from chuck schumer yeah great i found i found largely listening to this to be like i have already said intolerable i i found it so boring just just that's the kind of noise just put that for two and a half hours look at us being bros yes i turned it off after about an hour but there was one really important thing that came up a couple times in the first hour and this is alex trying to formulate a way to justify some of his bigotries and i found this really really interesting here we go because all renaissance is it's not a utopia it's saying all the old fucking weird shit we throw it out all the old

weird shit it's like all rainbow flags all black people that's not it's all exploiting gay people and black people there's nothing to do with rainbow flags and gay people they're just literally sitting there putting that out we need a total renaissance to overthrow the entire thing we empower everybody what you're saying you're not saying let's get rid of rainbow flags and black people that's what it sounded like you're saying because they're mascotting the rainbow flags no yeah get rid of the the front get rid imagine i said i really like black people yeah do what i say i like black people like you're a fucking opportunity i see what you're saying i see what you're saying but this is interesting no no i'm saying they can't don't get rid of rainbow flags

and black people i'm saying rid of the people that are using rainbow flags and black people i'm just saying stop listening to them yeah like what's up defense contractor is our rainbow flag you're like dude that's not you know you're killing people but you're using this rainbow flag so we thank you as protection you think you have good intentions so all i'm trying to do is predatory i've listened to countless hours of alex's show and i honestly don't think that that's an idea that i've ever heard him articulate like that i really haven't either i think it's intentional this is a very attractive point and honestly i don't actually disagree that much with how he's framing it no i think he's he's uh well i mean you see nancy polosi and the like in a fucking yeah yeah i see

you know like businesses do and like pay lip service to communities in meaningless ways in order to garner good will while their actions might not be as supportive as those words may imply yeah rainbow flags and donations to trump do not go together and yet somehow i think that happens a lot and it's a part of the shallowness of the nature of corporations we treat corporations like people and all of a sudden they have a brand and a persona to cultivate and part of that is trite social media gestures and i think a lot of people see through that by framing alex's opposition to things like black people and rainbow flags this way alex is trying to hook the audience by appealing to something that they could easily believe this could possibly be the belief that alex has that

everyone says is racist you know all those times alex gets called a racist it's gotta be because people are misrepresenting his stance against corporate use of black lives matter and rainbow flags right that's gotta be it he's not actually a racist right that's what alex wants the audience to think because the reality is that alex is a gigantic racist and if the audience knows that going in they won't ever make it to the infowars store right trust me the difference in how alex responds to a murder when the victim is black or when the victim is white has nothing to do with corporate signaling no his behavior is explicitly racist it's homophobic it's transphobic it's he is those things right and he's being allowed to launder this in a way that's appealing to not

only the hosts but the audience right and gives them a way to be like oh yeah everyone says alex is racist it's just he doesn't like he doesn't like this corporate thing or you put a rainbow flag up during pride month when you're a bigot right or you're doing horrible things i mean that's it's a valid criticism that's trying to be used as a shield right for um bigotry right but i i mean that's the feedback loop that's the feedback loop of conspiracy theorists and shitty politicians is that when the system is so corrupt and so transparent bullshit it is easy for you to take a pot shot like this and get people towards more conspiratory laden bullshit because obviously nancy polosi is fucking lying to you that's not hard to jump to you know it's a miniature version

of how alex's uh opposition to the iraq war can trick you into thinking that he is an ally and then you're ideologically on the same page right and then corrupt and shallow assholes use that conspiracy theory to get elected when they corrupt the government and make it less functional than it was before then your conspiracy theories get even stronger because the government is so obviously corrupt and it creates that feedback loop of destruction if if it were possible i mean i've said this so many times but the greatest weapon that the democrats have against the republican party is just the governing effectively and they cannot do that they simply cannot true i mean and that's why we get into these situations i think that even if the democrats wanted to or had a unified will

to govern well i don't think it's possible no that's probably true it's probably too late now it's probably way too late now everyone can just do their best man they really had a shot they really had a shot 2008 to 2010 if they had just got their shit together man we would have avoided so much we would have had a right wing terrorism problem yeah that's much more extreme much faster we do it yeah that's it wasn't going to stop yeah yeah so i i just i i grow weary of these laundering attempts of alex yeah and i just i i don't i don't think people don't have the right to do it sure i don't think people are you know should be banned i don't know i mean it's the platform's choice they can do whatever the fuck they want sure um i don't i don't think that

you know i don't think they should be arrested or anything for this but i wish people would consider a little bit more what they're doing i wish that like if these guys want to have alex jones on their show i would like them to ask about the devil i would like them to ask about like valid criticisms about him as opposed to allowing him to present his very very clear racism yeah as opposition to corporate signaling right um i would like it if they allow uh you know this is a rare opportunity where you have alex there you could ask him digging questions and instead just allow him to to poach your audience i mean there's there's really only at this point the bar is so low so there's only two things that happen if you have alex jones on it's obviously you're

right you have either the option to uh fucking eviscerate him and then you will not be on his level you will be over the bar uh or you do this in which case you are under the bar right next to right next to alex i have no sympathy for people it's it's you you've turned flagrant to into info wars in my mind more or less the end yeah like i have no interest in you as people you should fucking stop and if you don't get that and if you don't make a change towards that then fuck off forever you're just info wars yeah i think i think we have probably a very unique perspective and i don't mean unique and like necessarily an overly positive way but a perspective that other people don't have because we focus so much on alex jones sure and that is that like i think

that we have enough of an awareness of what this dude does and what he's up to his history the way he lies the positions that he actually has that people who would choose to associate with him um it's your right to sure but we know uh that you are him yeah yeah i don't give a fuck about joe rogan or tim dillon or these fucks or or any of these people you you are next to alex jones forever you're at the rat if you're at a rally surrounded by nazis i get maybe you feel like you're not but if you stay at that rally guess who's a nazi now you know that looks on a second time exactly um i mean i guess it's probably boost it probably boosts numbers it probably helps with traffic and these guys have a bunch of ads on their show hey hope their sponsors don't

dislike alex being on it's okay if you destroy the world if your listeners go up it's fine you know it's the trade-off i just i i i i i i just don't understand being this irresponsible with uh presentation yeah i that's that's really what it comes down to it really comes down to like a part of you just breaks down and you just go like do you guys just not care like is that really it you just don't give a shit i mean it feels like that's got to be the most simple explanation yeah you don't care about your show you don't care about the people who listen and you don't care about what happens because of it that's what you're telling me when you have alex jones on right i mean like because here we have a completely dissonant presentation a week ago on

his show alex is talking about how we're all dead yes he was you know like yes he was he's talking about how the globalists are going to kill everybody yeah and you know like i gotta stand and fight against these i promise you i will take everything in my my ability of fake crying and shit and within the week he's in new york wearing a wig hey my penis is like a turtle great great what are you doing what are any of us do yeah brutal and then alex comes back and tries to present mackafee's death as a murder which can only serve to incite his audience yeah just unreal this is just nonsensical it's just so fucked up it's so it's so fucked up how easy it is to jangle the keys of like hey i'm a a fucking performer in front of these idiots and

then they'll just be like yeah let's talk about dicks for two hours we have fuck off and again maybe uh i don't know i watched most of the first one and it was not uh in depth or interesting i watched the first hour of this one before i turned it off yeah and the only thing i found interesting really was this presentation of alex's racism as being opposed to corporate artifice yeah and i don't know i i guess i could have listened to the rest of it yeah i mean again if it weren't so reasonable to assume that they are corrupt lying pieces of shit i think it would be harder to launder your racism behind see look at those corrupt lying pieces of shit i would love i would like it if this was actually a long game which it's not um but they

were trying to lull alex into a full sense of security yeah you missed the last half hour where they just fucking nailed him nailed him to a wall i doubt it anyway anyway i'm uh i'm somewhat excited to see how alex tries to incorporate that cue from john mackey's instagram uh so we'll check in on that on monday i believe yeah um but uh yeah until then jordan we have a website we do have a website it's knowledgefight.com yep we're also on twitter we are on twitter it's at knowledgefight i go to bet jordan yep we're also on facebook we are facebook and it's out of the show i could please find a local charity or bail fund in your area to help out people do it god's work yep we'll be back until then i'm neo i'm leo i'm dzx clark i'm daryl rundis and now here comes the sex robots

andy and chanzas you're on the air thanks for holding hello alex i'm a first time caller i'm a huge fan i love your work i love you