Knowledge Fight - #598: September 17, 2021

Episode Date: September 20, 2021

Today, Dan and Jordan deal with another "unacceptable" episode of The Alex Jones Show. In this installment, Alex does everything in his power to dehumanize refugees from Haiti, interviews a horrible person, and gets a bit defensive about how he's not as hot as he used to be. Citations

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Oh, indeed we are, Dan, Dan, Jordan, quick question for you, what's up, what's your bright spot today? My bright spot today is at long last, I have finally been able to check off seeing the mighty mighty Boston, my bucket list of, I mean, I was thinking about it as like, I was 12, I think when the impression that I get came out on the radio and like, I was just like, I love these horns, it was so exciting and then like, my brother's a little bit older than me and so more tuned into music and so he had that album and he played for me another drinking song and like that song is so great and just blew my mind and I remember hearing

that they were on a radio show being interviewed and it ended up turning out to be Love Line and I remember, I stayed up like with a radio listening in my bed, like listening in to hear the boss tones on Love Line and like, I just, I loved them and I went back and I found all their, you know, their old records and it was just great. I mean, I built up a lifelong love of Love Line. Yeah, I don't want to talk about it. Yeah, that's fair enough. But that's fair enough.

We were talking before we started recording and I was telling you, it was not, not the set list I would have chosen and it was a little bit underwhelming and I got a little depressed and one of the songs made me think that they might be vaccine skeptics and I realized like, I don't know anything about the boss tones politics. This isn't good. I haven't listened to any of their album since like Jackknife to a swan, so I have no idea what they've been up to in the last decade. But seeing them do someday, I suppose, live was really just great.

Felt good. Yeah. A moment that had been a long time coming in my life like that song really meant a lot to me when I was younger and man, they still sound sharp. I mean, can't take that away from them. And for someone who has Dickie Barrett's voice, that growling, like the fact that he is as old as he is now and can still sound pretty good is not. No, that's great.

That's that's impressive. It is fantastic. Yeah, it is. It is like, you know, they it's it's a little bit like how baseball players or tennis players, you know, their prime used to be twenty three twenty four. And now you can hit all the way up till thirty thirty one. You know, like Rafa and Djokovic, all those guys, they're past 30. The same is true.

I feel like for like the rolling brown voices, like we've got so much technology now, honey and tea technology. Exactly. We didn't have that before. Yeah. Soft compresses. They're everywhere. Vicks Vapo.

I felt really weird to about the idea of going to riot fest, because, you know, it's a large gathering of people. But, you know, I talked it over with some people that I trusted their opinions on. And, you know, the fact that it's you had to present a vaccination card to get in. Yeah. There was a lot of space to, like, you know, trying. I didn't it wasn't going in the pit or anything. Yeah.

I wasn't going in the skank circle or the Boston's and, you know, masks. People are still wearing masks and stuff. So it felt like a responsible risk as far as it went, but I still, there's still a part of my brain that couldn't get past that, you know, they couldn't get past like this long period of time readjusting to like, what is okay? I get it. It's tough. You know, the thing that happened for me was whenever, because Lollapalooza this year,

I was like looking at that going. It's horrifying. We're fucked. Yeah. This is going to be a nightmare. Yeah. It's a tiny, tiny percentage actually, like it was not a super spreader event. It's almost like they, it was the people you came with.

If you, if it was that number of people, you know, I, I remember, I don't remember the exact statistics on it, but yeah, I remember the follow-up on that, it was the numbers were, were shockingly low in terms of any cases that were traceable to, and I think that did make me feel a little bit more comfortable. They're like, well, if you're doing these things, if you can do them responsibly and especially if it's like, you know, vaccine card, checking for entry, I don't know. It's maybe, maybe we're at a point where, you know, some, some reasonable risks can be accepted.

It is. I will still be in my house alone for the next six months. Sure. Sure. Quarantining. Yes. Yeah. Got to make sure.

But it was, it felt worth it to do. Yeah. No, that is, it is, it is also a little bit that kind of, you know, we've, we've talked about it for months now, but that two different Americas, you know, the vaccinated and unvaccinated, you can go to a fucking festival, you know, like, but then you go to an unvaccinated part of America and you can't fuck around. It's everywhere. It's bananas.

Yeah. It is bananas. It is. So what's your bright spot? My bright spot today, Dan, is as you well know, I live a very unhealthy lifestyle. Boy, do you? Boy, do I. It's, it's pretty.

That's coming from me. It's pretty ecstatic. Yeah. Well, last night, my partner and I, we've signed up for some like healthy thing. They send you meals. It's not one of that. It's a food box kind of thing. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They do that whole thing. No free rides. Don't give them a shout out. Yeah. Absolutely not.

But it's not one of the ones that advertises on podcasts, I guess. Okay. It's way more healthy. And so last night, my first Beyond Meat. Oh, so it's like a, it's a, like a meat replacement even. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. That's interesting. Yeah. I tried it and everybody who says it's like regular meat can fuck off. It's not. However, it is not, not unlike regular meat. You know what I mean? Yeah.

That's kind of the, the sense that I've got from talking to people, but it's like, yeah, there are similarities to meat. It's not exactly the same, but, but it's like a drastic improvement over what was there before. Oh, totally. And that alone is still pretty good. Yeah. I mean, the progress is being made.

Oh, we ate a burger. It was like good. I, and yesterday, all vegetables. Nice. That was my first all vegetable day ever, maybe by on purpose. He's going vegan. Look at those boots. It's not going to last very long, but I did it.

I'm proud of myself. I'm happy for you too. Sure. The audience is applauding. Yes. I'm sure. I think that that's the best context for those meal delivery things is within a couple. Yeah.

I did it once and like, I was, you know, on my own, but just like, I can't, I'm not cooking this shit. Why? Why would I? Why would I do that? Yeah. It was, it was very depressing to see the, the meals just sitting there. Yeah.

They still take a little bit of preparation. It's not like I can just pull it out of the fridge and chomp it. You know what's, what's amazing about it. And the thing that is the only big thing for me, because fuck being healthier with vegan, non-sense or whatever. I mean, I do feel, I feel, it took one day of eating vegetables. I feel way better. But the point, the point is portion control.

Like last night I ate what made me full and then I was done. I didn't have like another entire meal of Chinese food to like continue jamming into my face. Sure. Because it tastes good. Yeah. It was great. So you just, you know, eat things that are gross.

Yeah. Exactly. Well, I look forward to tracking your adventure. We'll see what happens. Today, Jordan, we're in the present day of Alex Jones's show. I almost said blackjack. September 17th, 2021. Blackjack.

Oh, sure. Thought I could sneak it in while you were laughing. Well, during present day, I was like, well, that's blackjack for sure. Yeah. Yeah. So look, this episode's pretty white nationalist. Oh, great. Yeah.

Great. We're going, we're going there. Yeah. A lot of this is not necessarily breaking new ground, but some of the stuff that Alex says is shockingly awful. And also, there's a topic that comes up that I would like to talk about. So we'll get to that. But before we do, let's take a little moment, say hello to some new wonks.

That's a good idea. So first, Adam, thank you so much. You are now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thanks, Adam. Thank you. Next, Sydney. Thank you so much.

You are now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thanks, Sydney. Thank you. Next, Todd Clorox. The Clorox man with the Clorox plan. Thank you so much. You are now a policy wonk.

I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. Next, I drink IPAs and have a cool dog. I'm a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. Thank you. Jason also.

Thank you. You are now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thanks, Jason. Thank you. And finally, I worry I'm subconsciously indoctrinating my son to Alex Jones by listening to this podcast. Well, looking after him.

Thank you so much. You are now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. Do not listen to our podcast around children. Uh-huh. No. No, no, no.

They don't understand the context. Yeah. If you are pregnant or with a child, do not listen to this podcast. You know how they say that, you know, in the womb, this podcast is the opposite. It is not going to end well for you. No. No. And even if you even if your child becomes successful, it's going to be in an avenue

like this and you don't want that. You don't want that. Let me tell you, this ain't this ain't no life to wish upon a child. Get a good union job. Pipe fitters. Pipe fitters. A great job. Yeah.

Yeah. So we start here Jordan on September 17th, blackjack 2021. Ah, shit. And Alex has a big news story. Not so concerned with COVID for most of this episode, although it is apparently by weapons going to kill everybody. Right. Uh, there's bigger news.

Okay. And that is, uh, there are Haitians in America. Well, now in one bridge in Del Rio, Texas, and there's 20, 30 major bridges or more, there have been over 10,000 Haitians just yesterday. Now it's over 15,000 and they banned any drones with the, the technocracy with the geofence they put up. The drones are pre-programmed. We were there with our drones.

They suddenly wouldn't take off the Fox news drones wouldn't take off and the board patrol came and said, we put up a geofence under order of Biden. You can't, you know, fly these. So we simply went to the Mexico side and got one up and we were able to get footings that nobody else has. Last night as the sun was setting, thousands more surging across the border and walking over a dangerous spillway in the Rio Grande, men, women and children, because Biden eight days ago said any Haitians that get here, we're going to not check their ID, not COVID

test them, just bring them into the United States to sign them up for welfare and use them as a permanent underclass. Yeah. That sounds like what Biden announced or, uh, we were accepting refugees from a night marriage, uh, hellscape that climate change itself has caused as well as a roar and turmoil over the weird assassination of their president by some random ass doctor in Florida be, uh, we'll get to this in a second. But like I want to, I want to just put like right up front, like I'm not entirely sure

what was going on with the no fly area over this, uh, this bridge in del Rio. Sure. I presume that there may be a safety reason why that was done, uh, in terms of like not allowing Fox News's drone to fly over. Sure. I don't know, but I do think that that's a legitimate question. That is the only thing that I think is legitimate within any of this coverage. Sure.

Is it appropriate to say media companies cannot fly a drone over, uh, this area? Right. I'm not sure. Right. On the, here's my only rebuttal to that is, uh, at the end of the day, if Fox News and info wars are trying to put drones over a bridge where refugees are coming, they stop being media organizations and start turning into propaganda, trying to get people killed. I agree.

So at that point, I, I was like the moment he said they wouldn't allow drones to take off. I was like, Oh yeah, that's what I would have done because they're just going to get propaganda footage. And I don't know, uh, at what point you are able to say, uh, that rule is, uh, you can't do this because you're going to do bad things with the pictures after the migrant caravan. I mean, we should have learned our lesson there. See, but I think they did by turning all the drones off.

Maybe. Yeah. So this story, if you just hear it from Alex is that Joe Biden is begging Haitians to come to the United States where they'll be accepted in with no process at all, put on welfare and used as a political weapon against people like Alex Reed, white people. Yeah. That's probably 100% just the newest articulation of the great replacement narrative and it's a little more than white nationalism pretending to be a policy concern.

So here's the real story. There's approximately 12,000, it may be a little more now, uh, but they're asylum seekers mostly from Haiti who've made camp under the Del Rio international bridge while they wait processing by customs and border protection. This is technically within the United States and it's important that it is because you can't request asylum anywhere except for inside the United States. They do that. If you want to request asylum, uh, uh, plead your case within the, like to the United States,

you have to be in the United States. You can't be across the border pretending that that's not the case as a tool of the right wing media. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right.

So this isn't a situation where this is an invasion point, nor is it a situation that you can extrapolate to every bridge on the Texas, Mexico border. It's a specific set of circumstances that exist for a reason and it's a humanitarian and logistical challenge, not a crisis that requires retreating to white supremacist conspiracy theories. This is kind of the state of things for Alex's information space though, much like there will never be election coverage anymore that isn't rooted in an assumption that the Democrats are cheating and the GOP are secretly always the rightful winners.

There's never going to be any coverage of any immigration or refugee related stories on Alex's show that isn't firmly entrenched in a belief that non-white people coming to the United States is an attack on white people in the United States. Explicitly. Yes. Yeah. One of the large contributing factors to the specific circumstances we're seeing now is that there was a large influx of people from Haiti seeking asylum for very understandable

reasons like you touched on. Their president was assassinated in July and then there's a huge earthquake in mid-August that destroyed over 120,000 homes. Earlier in the year, immigrant rights groups had noted that Biden's administration had actually been using Title 42 expulsions to deport immigrants back to Haiti more than Trump even did. Yeah. Title 42 is part of the US code that says the president can limit the ability of migrants

to come to the United States if they come from countries where communicable diseases are present to a level that there's a potential health risk. Trump evoked this in the context of COVID to limit the ability of migrants to come to the United States. And unlike how you might have hoped it would go, Biden has continued with this policy. And many folks on the left have been intensely critical of him for this. Rightfully so. Yeah.

I do like how people are like, nobody on the left criticizes Joe Biden. Yeah. They are. Sure. On August 3rd, the Department of Homeland Security temporarily placed people arriving from Haiti on the list of migrants that qualified for temporary protected status set to be in effect from August 3rd, 2021, Blackjack, to February 3rd, 2023. That was spiteful.

Yeah. I know. I'm sorry. This made it possible for individuals from Haiti who were in the country to apply for TPS status, which would make them not able to be summarily deported before they could apply for asylum. Right. Side note, if you ever wondered why there are particular countries that end up becoming

hot button topics for right wing media, you know, like in terms of immigration, it's usually because these countries are on the temporary protected status list. Somalia, Sudan, Syria, Venezuela, all on the list. Anyway. Haiti was on the TPS list, and thus deportations should have been halted, but it turns out that last week, quote, immigration and customs enforcement on Wednesday expelled 86 Haitian nationals from the United States and flew them back to Haiti. This was fairly shocking, given the prior TPS announcement and migrant rights groups

as well as Democratic House members like Ayanna Presley had sharp criticism. There's a lot going on here and Biden's administration appears to be really dropping the ball in terms of this issue. In response to the news of the situation at the Del Rio Bridge, ICE announced that they were planning to ramp up deportations with eight deportation flights within this next week and 10 a week after that, which is there seems to be very incongruous messaging coming from different parts of the government. To a not a small extent, going back to the Obama administration, ICE has often seemed

like they have become just a complete rogue agency. I don't know how to look at some of the information that you're able to find, like the stories about this don't seem like, wait, why are you doing that? This is exactly against the stated Department of Homeland Security announcement. No, you know, it is a little bit like that. So all too often part of the reason that you know that the Chicago PD is a complete rogue agency is because anytime they disagree with the mayor or whatever, all of a sudden the mayor agrees with them.

And it's partly because if you really allowed that to go and like fought back against them, people would find out that they have just as much power, if not more than the mayor. And you don't want to look like you're not as powerful as your own cops. So I imagine Biden doesn't want to look like he literally cannot control ICE. That may be. There may be something to that. Very confused, though, looking into the details of this story, because I mean, like, you know, at my pay grade, I don't understand how this works.

I mean, you know, I guess a lot of people in every government have always been like, we've got a certain amount that we can do. And fucking with ICE is going to be a lot more than we can do today. Maybe. So we've lived through a number of scares on Alex's part about immigration. All of them look kind of embarrassing and they'll come true. But this Haiti one's real. And so Alex is sent employees down to the border to to to take care of one of them.

I think he was getting married and then like another one couldn't go for another reason, which is really probably because they have code now. Drone Capsar's footage of a humongous, gigantic new Haitian caravan slamming over the Texas border last night. Our crew is there now with no sleep, doing an amazing job. A skeleton crew is there doing an amazing job on the ground, getting even more insane footage as we speak. So this is ongoing.

One of our camera guys is getting married this weekend. Another had his own podcast. He had to do last night. That's fine. I understand. We're just down to a skeleton cruise. We sent four people down there. We're doing an amazing job.

We need to hire more crew. We need to expand. But that's really up to you and your support. I appreciate you all. But M4warstore.com is bringing you all this information. Winner, son, the highest quality vitamin BG3. Wow. Do you want to plug your employees podcast AJ AJ, I have to do my own podcast.

There are anywhere from between 100 to 200 listeners who will be very unhappy if I don't get it out tomorrow. Alex, sorry. I can't help you save the border. I got to record my podcast. Yeah. Yeah. It tells you just how important a big deal this is, you know, like, oh, wow, I got to

do my podcast. I feel like this is either, I mean, it definitely indicates an inability on Alex's part to convince his employees of the seriousness of the things that they are going to cover. I would have left that little excuse to just personal reason. Wedding. Great. Yeah. You're not going to reschedule a wedding.

Can't reschedule a wedding. To agitate against immigrants. Yeah. Yeah. You can't save the country. So one of the people who does end up going to the border, I don't know who else is there because this is the only person they bring up is Tim Inlow, who's one of the guys who went with Alex the last time they went down to harass the Catholic charity in McAllen.

And he's also former Blackwater. So that's cool. Great. Great. And he believes that, you know, the UN is trying to replace us with Haitian, sure. There is no way something like this on such a massive scale that that can occur in a vacuum or that can occur just by happenstance. This is organized.

These people all have cell phones. We showed that to you. These people have the ability to recharge their cell phones to have cell phone cards to pay for the services. They have supplies, fresh clothes, food, everything. And this is a journey that takes months for them, months. So this is absolutely a UN-sponsored, Soros-funded invasion of the United States. And the goal is clear.

We know what the goal is. It is absolutely replacement migration. There is no doubt about that. Jesus. Pretty blunt. It is weird that a guy who, more likely than not, committed war crimes in another country that we invaded is now like, oh no, Soros. I think that that's uncompelling that the evidence of humanitarian aid existing is proof

that there is an invasion of our country. I don't know. I find that to be unconvincing. The UN is feeding and clothing people and then bringing them to the United States. What they should be doing is invading another country and killing them. That's how this works. So Tim sucks. He is very bluntly just, you know, spitting what is essentially watered down white nationalist

propaganda. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it gets worse. Like he legitimately seems to, this is the first instance on this show of someone at Info Wars saying dehumanizing things about people from other countries. That's not good. And the Haitians are also just dumping their children off and leaving them in the bushes and never coming back, just like we saw at Bogrum Air Base with the women throwing their

babies over the walls. That's exactly right, right? In some of these cultures, children quite honestly are viewed as dispensable, right? They serve a purpose, whether that purpose is to eventually marry them off for profit or, you know, whatever the purpose is, it varies from culture to culture. But what they don't have is the very close attachment that we in the West feel, right? The responsibility to stay with that child and even die for that child if necessary. Wow.

That's if you can just take something that somebody says and then put the word gypsy in it and then go like, that's what that's literally what Nazi said. You don't get to fly drones over refugees. That's how you're going to litigate this seems like a very simple equation. That's an interesting way to do it. Yeah, I just think that like when you are trying to rally people against refugees, asylum seekers, immigrants, yeah, and part of your argument is they don't love their children in the same way.

They don't have that attachment to children the way us in the West do. You are fucked up. This is not a policy kind of show. There's no politics in it. This is this is straight demonization. I mean, it doesn't surprise me though. What do you what would you think somebody who went into another country and committed war crimes would think, you know, allegedly more likely than not.

There you go. There's a higher percentage possibility. Yeah. Yeah, I just I find it to be completely unacceptable. Like when the conversation is about a situation with Haitians fleeing from this gigantic earthquake and political instability and myriad other issues trying to find safety and security in the United States. And your conversation involves they don't love their children like white people do.

Go fuck yourself. How about that? Yep. You don't get a place at the table. No. You don't get to talk. You don't. No, no.

I think they don't love their children. Fuck off. So Alex gets to talking about Klaus Schwab a little bit. Sure. Can't not. Well, you got to talk. You got to talk. Schwab.

It's it's today. Yeah. And so, you know, Gray reset all that good stuff. Alex has some sources that he wants to point to about Schwab that are a little bit sad. If you go to Wikipedia and Klaus Schwab's own Wikipedia, former head of the Bilderberg group, head of the corporate fascist group that runs the UN, he said, we are going to capture all the nation states and he's been and that was six years ago. Why are you relying on Wikipedia, man?

Shouldn't you like high level sources but like in Wikipedia, Klaus Schwab didn't say whatever he said to Wikipedia, you know, like whatever that is that may or may not be on Wikipedia citation from somewhere else. Sure. So you should cite that thing instead if you have any kind of awareness of the like the larger thing. I really see why he dropped out of community college. Holy shit.

So Schwab's Wikipedia page, like I said, not a great source for Alex to be pulling out. But if you do go to it, you'll find a section about a proposal that was put out by the World Economic Forum back in 2010 when Schwab was the head of the organization. The proposal argued that governments were no longer the, quote, dominant actors on the world stage and that it could be time for a new model of governance that reflected a stakeholder paradigm. This was a proposal. The part about capturing the countries, that isn't Schwab saying that he's going to capture

the world's countries. It's a description of this proposal that was given by the Transnational Institute. The Wikipedia page quotes them, which is what Alex is presenting as something that Schwab said. Oh boy. I just would absolutely think that the Transnational Institute were a bunch of globalists because they get funding from the Rockefeller Brothers Fund. Well, that'll do it.

That could be a little difficult for Alex to try and explain when his worldview is so dependent on good versus evil. How could it be possible that this Rockefeller funded group has a sharp criticism of a policy proposal from the World Economic Forum? They're all evil globalists and they're trying to work on the same goals. This makes no sense. Yeah. This is like, you know, this is a screenwriting situation.

This is a book adaptation where you combine a couple characters into one character in your movie and you just kind of move along. Nonsense. Sure. It's not accurate, but come on. So anyway, Wikipedia, add that to, I guess on our last episode we had Alex reporting on a tweet. Yes.

A hoax Facebook meme. Sure. So we're strong stuff here. This guy's up all night doing his research. I would be interested to see his citations page for this episode and I guess his community college career as well. It's probably just like, you know, like back in the day you'd sit on a Xerox machine, Xerox your ass.

Yeah. That's his citations page. What's MLA format for your ass? So more dehumanization of immigrants coming right up. Okay. Yeah. There's the UN saying we want to abolish all borders to solve the world's problems. And I've got articles here out of the UK and Europe where they're being flooded by millions

a month basically and they say the UN came to the UK and others and said, please consider just getting rid of your borders. That's a headline I've got today. Please consider getting rid of your borders today completely. And then they cut the food off the third world, tens of millions starve to death and then giant hordes of military aged men who have grown up the most vicious slums on the planet and who on average have been malnourished, meaning bad brain development. I don't care if you're black or white and you basically have the equivalent of zombies.

Geez. You know, when you put in immediately after the words that you are specifically using to describe black people, I don't care if you're black or white. You are 100% describing black people. I think you could see through. I mean, it's the same thing as the code of like the West. Yeah, I think that if Alex actually believed any of the things he's saying and he wasn't just trying to find ways to dehumanize migrants and make his audience think of them as things

not people, he should be staunchly in favor of government subsidized food programs for all citizens. If he thinks that malnutrition turns people into zombies, then he should support free lunch programs and universal access to nutrition. I can't imagine he'd want his fellow citizens to be turned into zombies just because they can't afford good food. Yeah, I bet he would. He would super support the Black Panther Breakfast program, you know, because they wanted to

make sure that people didn't grow up to be zombies and they weren't malnourished. And he doesn't care if you're black or white. So obviously he must have supported the Black Panther Party. Seems like he would be consistency dictates that he should seems like it. So anyway, the story about the U.N. saying that everyone should get rid of borders. Please, please. So would you consider getting rid of your borders? It's just Alex lying and misrepresenting a story about a representative from the U.N.

Human Rights Council suggesting to the UK Parliament that they should not implement a new immigration bill into law because doing so would make criminals of many refugees and asylum seekers. Yeah. Rosella Pagliucci-Lorr said, quote, I find it ironic to be honest that the very same people we felt so affected by when we saw them hanging from planes and cobble or those we are now discussing how they should be extracted. If they extracted themselves and made it here, they would.

If that bill were law, be liable to be potential to potentially four years in jail and then subject to some attempts to return them to the other countries. There's something ironic in the way they were so concerned about them while they're there, but we're not ready to consider them when they come to the UK. So that's what Alex is saying. This new law that's being discussed, it's a bill in the UK that could become law. The UN Human Rights Council was advising, like, you shouldn't do this. Yeah.

People who are able to flee from countries. Yeah. The UN was like, who the fuck wrote this? The Koch brothers? What is wrong with you people? You may end up then incarcerating them. Insane. Anyway.

Great. Look, this next clip sucks. There's no way around it. They brainwashed these people. They give them phones. They give them debit cards with $1,000 to $3,000 on them and they bring them here, pissed. Believe me, they're all about to get everything free. It's like all the mussels being brought into Europe being told you're going to get all

the women you want. They show up, start raping and saying, I want my women. 90% never get off welfare. We're brought into Europe. It's the same thing here. This is what's going on. Bringing the third world here not to empower these people, but to bring us down to their level.

All the globalists fly around on private jets and live in 100,000 acre private ranches guarded by robots. I think you almost lost track of that sentence at the end. I'm trying to be as racist as possible and then it just it fizzled out at the robot guards. I guess robots. I don't know. Let's be racist towards them too.

Yeah, man. That sucks. That is that's that's real like, Hey, man, you're talking genocide. No more talking for you. Please also cite your sources on the 90% of immigrants never get off welfare. Sure. Particularly considering, I mean, when you say welfare, it's like, what do you mean by welfare?

That's such a broad category of, you know, there's social programs that are involved. So what are you talking about? First of all, are you talking about like food assistance, are you talking about Medicaid? What are you talking about? Right. Then you have to think about, well, in the United States, you know, there are rules in place that you can't be on welfare programs for five years after arriving here. And so, okay.

What about that? Alex? Yeah. You're talking about Europe. So look at Europe. Which country? Yeah. What are you talking about?

It's Europe. It's big Europe. Big Europe. There's so many differences in terms of what kind of a welfare state exist between like Scandinavian countries and, and other, it's, it's outrageous. Like I don't know. This means nothing. No, no.

Except that Alex really wants to agitate against the immigrants. Yeah. Especially considering, I mean, just the sheer volume of immigrant stories that are told about America going back since it fucking began. Like that's one of our favorite fucking stories is people who come here from a different country and then turn into a thing here. Like that's what we love to hear about. Yeah.

It's our lore. It's a different story. Like I came into Ellis Island. They changed my fucking name and I still didn't murder anybody. I'm still a good person. Brutal. So, you know, I complained a little bit recently about that meme that went around again of Alex, you know, the Boney Vare song.

And then a little bit after that, there was another thing that went a little viral of Alex. And it was a clip of him from like, I don't know, some time in the nineties back in his years on like public access TV. Uh-huh. It was him when he was young. When his dad bought him a show. It was around then.

So he was, you know, he was an attractive dude. We've talked about this before. He was an attractive man and he was younger. And it's, it's this video, I've seen this video of him a number of times. I don't, I don't know if it was from his just from his show or if he included it in one of his early documentaries, but it's him on a street in Austin complaining about how one of the council members houses is overgrown, like the plants in the yard, because someone I guess probably a right wing weirdo had gotten a ticket for having an overgrown yard

or something. He's like, wow, this city council member, you know, and it's like, granted the stakes are pissant. It's nonsense. Go back to those stakes. Sure. Whatever. Yeah.

It, he doesn't seem like the Alex Jones that you know now, and that's obviously because of money and drugs, alcohol, everything. Yes. Yeah. Um, the negative reinforcement patterns. Yeah. Uh, all sorts of things. I mean, just basic malignant narcissism.

There's certainly that. Yeah. And I think that, uh, there were a few people who responded, um, that I would be super against that. And I don't think I am nearly as much, um, because I think that that is a document of the time in Alex's life and pretending that he's still the same person. That would be stupid. Yeah.

That would be irresponsible. But looking back on this and recognizing that from this route grew this disgusting tree. Right. Like that's not, I mean, I think it would be sensorious of me to be like, Hey, don't spread that around. Now, if you're trying to like be like, ooh, isn't Alex hot? Yeah. I mean, I guess it's a waste of time.

Sure. But who cares? It's him in the past. I don't know. It seems like at worst a waste of time. Yeah. Whereas the bonny bear thing is actually dangerous. Yeah.

So I didn't actually have any kind of negative response to people sharing that. I think there is a, the difference between them is that one humanizes and, um, what? Kind of, uh, defangs to a certain extent, Alex's present persona. And the other one, almost as a, uh, uh, contrast tears Alex in the present down somewhat. You know, like if you go back and you watch that, you look at a man who or a young boy who is handsome and who is not fucking calling for genocide and not yelling about how the devil walks among us and all Democrats are demon possessed. Yeah.

If you look at that video, I'm sure part of what you see is just like, fuck, what did he become? Right. And I think that that's what a lot of the people who were commenting on it, uh, were talking about, like, is there brain damage? What the fuck happened to this guy instead of listening to a bonny bear clip and being like, Oh, this is kind of fun. And this is, oh, look at him.

Yeah. Yeah. And I think that also the fact that you can see, like, okay, this is him back in like the nineties. These are the sorts of issues that like really his bread and butter is silly. And it's, it's grounding. You know, like it's like, he's not some kind of guy, like there is a trajectory that went from there to here.

Yeah. Like it's not, there's not like a mystical, magical thing that happened. It's just, look at what happens. Yes. He would be exactly as famous as he was in that clip if he was still talking about the fucking city council person. Right. I mean, that's basically, he started doing crazy or shit and he got more famous.

That's how it works. Yes. Yeah. I mean, there's a lot of thoughts about this video going around and I immediately was like when he started talking about it, I thought like, I don't know if I'm going to enjoy this coverage of it, but then I did because he's super defensive about how hot he used to be because he's hideous now. Yes.

Yeah. There's a video that popped up last night that now has millions of views on Instagram and hundreds of thousands on Twitter. People sent me a bunch of people did and they're like, my God, Alex Jones in 1995. Now I was like 21 years old then. I was not a teenager as they say in the video. So that's not the, but that is, that is me, ladies and gentlemen. And my teeth are a little bit longer the front teeth because I've grinded them off grinding

my teeth. Coke. So yes, people say, my God, Alex Jones has made quite the transformation. So I see some of the joke tweets out there. Yeah. Over the years, that's me at 180 pounds and I ran six miles every other day and let you wait for about two hours a day. I could bench press 400 pounds then and squat 600.

And I was quite the specimen, quite the specimen. This is, that didn't sound that defensive. Right. It will be later. Oh, I'm, I'm, I'm grateful for not being that hot when I was young. Like it's, it's the fall. It's that he was too hot and now he's too hideous, you know, like I'm fine. I wasn't that good looking.

I'm going to get worse, but it's like the fall isn't going to be that bad. And I don't, I don't really particularly care that much about his physical being. I can critique in as much as like, yes, I can see how he was conventionally attractive before and now conventionally unattractive and also seems to be in poor health. I'm more concerned about like his ideas and I honestly think that the idea that's being expressed in that video from his youth, although it is covering up some pretty fucked up beliefs that he just wasn't probably as public with at the time. Sure.

Sure. We know he was a bircher. Right. Yeah. And, and had all kinds of anti-government ideas that were a little extreme. But like the, the idea that's in that video is, hey, a ticketing of overgrown lawns should be equally enforced. Sure.

Fine. Yeah. That's great. Fine. Yep. You did it. You did it. The things that are being expressed now are ugly.

They're, they're like immigrants aren't people. Yeah. Basically. Yeah. It's far more important how, how ugly his insights and his ideas are to me than any kind of like whether or not you're hot, but he seems to be very defensive about people saying he's not hot anymore. Yeah.

There is a certain element of like, he got the wrong picture of Dorian Gray, you know? Like, the picture looks gorgeous. It's only gotten prettier as time goes on. But. Yeah. And I, I used to get like a lot of hate mail, Beck and I, Beck and I was in college and I wrote for the paper, like a, you know, I'd get people who were like saying like, you look fat, you piece of shit.

Sure. And I would always just laugh. I was like, that's fun. Yeah. What are you going to do? If I were Alex Jones, I would listen to by heads of state. Absolutely. I was the number one man fighting against the devil in the world.

Sure. The Russian intelligence service broke into a, yeah. And the time is running out. Right. I might not spend time on my show talking about a video of me and people saying I used to be hot. Yeah. But you know, I might leave that alone.

When important stuff comes up, you got to address it, even if it, even if it interrupts. Yeah. And you know what? The thing that I'm not factoring in is that sometimes you want to have fun and like it's not fun to talk about the border. It's fun to talk about people making fun of Alex. Cause I don't look like Orson Wells anymore at that, uh, wait, that's why I always said I did had no problems with the ladies, uh, back, uh, back, I'm, I was about, walk, walk,

talk about it. You know, I said I would have some fun in the last segment when I'm already kind of doing it. And see, that makes me be in a good mood to just have some fun and show some tweets where people make fun of me because I like stuff like that. I don't want to talk about how there's, I don't know, let's put the show, the live show headlined up because I wrote it and it really is accurate to see. That's what I do.

I don't just go with the rest of media saying, Oh, there's 10,000 plus migrants, uh, smashed over the border. No, our crew's been there up and down the Rio Grande River for miles and all directions. It looks like an NFL football game let out. 00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,120 He's like, I don't listen to what other people are saying. I make up my own numbers. I estimate crazy shit on my own.

Yeah. I don't need their help or no and facts and my conversation about this is going to be flagrantly offensive. No, there's nothing flagrantly offensive about that. Are you sure? So we're bringing in all these wonderful third world people. A lot of them aren't nice, but that's not what the globalists want, but a lot of them are thugs that have a chip on their shoulder.

I mean, look, you saw it at Bagram Air Base where most of the first flights were like 99% men in these other cultures. It's not women and children first. It's women and children, what? It's survival of the thuggish. And then that men breed that are like that and you get people that'll slit your throat for nothing and don't care about you. Now there's some nice folks that sometimes come out of these groups.

Yeah. But that's what's happening. Holy shit. Congratulations, Joe Rogan. Hey Rogan, come get your boy. Yeah, that might be a little bit boy. Survival of the thuggist. I don't know if I have ever heard a more black pot make up a black kettle to call black.

It's disgusting. I mean, there's, I don't really have much commentary on this outside of stuff. We've said a hundred times on the show. It's just discussed. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it can't, it cannot be said enough though. It cannot be said enough that this is the rhetoric that precedes a genocide.

It never doesn't. Well, there's no genocide that just like fucking shows up one day. It doesn't always lead to that, but when those things happen, this is the rhetoric that you find. Exactly. Yeah. Pre-looting it. That's what I meant.

Pre-saging it. That's what I meant. Yeah. In the same way that when Alex talks, like a lot of his like, oh, there's, they're going to pull false flags, all this, you know, the terrorist edging kind of thing. Yeah. Yeah. That doesn't always lead to some kind of a violent outburst.

No, it's not a McVay every time. But it's the kind of thing that can. And it's, yeah, whether or not it's just unacceptable. Yeah. Like I think that there are reasonable differences of opinion people can have about immigration policy. I think that you can. Yeah.

I think that there's a line where your opinions might veer into dangerous, right? But I still think that there's conversations you can have on those fronts. When you're talking like this about people from other countries and other cultures. That's not policy based. That's not a conversation. This is just, this can't, there's nothing that you can do to engage with this other than to say, this is disgusting. This deserves condemnation and people who would sincerely present ideas like this have

no place in public discourse. Like it's just your fucking mess. Yeah. I would very much like the conversation between political parties and even ideologies to be like, should a progressive income tax be at like 47% or should it be a graduated income tax that starts at 90% for your first million and then gradually decreases from there? Or should it be, that'd be a great conversation with different ideologies. Not we should kill them because they want to tax us slightly more than we're used to.

Yeah. Yeah. And the rest of the world are basically cavemen. We should kill them too. This is caveman stuff. And there are cavemen that come out of every group. But you know, you had to look at Christian ideas and trying to get people to love their neighbors and build better societies.

And that's what's built our world was the Christian ethos. And that's why the globalists who don't want that, they want depopulation. They want to play God. They want to merge with machines. They want to live essentially technology. They don't want to have to deal with chivalry and private property and the right to self-defense and women and children. Children are for medical experiments and having sex with.

Yuck. Wow. He realizes that America is not that old, right? And that all of our stuff came from somewhere else first. So like some stuff we got from Asia, some stuff we got from Africa, and some stuff we got from Europe. Right. And I know that Jesus was big on private property.

Loved it. And the Second Amendment. It's easier to get into heaven for a rich person than it is to even fucking buy a camel. You just walk into heaven if you're rich. Look, bro, if you're rich, it's tough to get into heaven, but you should have every right to accumulate all your stuff. Hold on. I mean, imagine you're going to heaven, right?

And you're in the waiting room and you meet your imaginary friend and he's like, I got some evil shit to tell about you. And then you're like, ah, one second, and you give him a hundred dollar bill. And he's like, well, you had a good day. See that's how you get into heaven if you're rich. You bribe the snitch. You bribe the snitches. It's called ecclesiastical capture, I believe is what it's called.

I find all of this awful. I'm trying to make anything funny because I really want to light fires. No. I mean, it's just. Listen to this episode was kind of like a kind of interesting experience on my end because, you know, we had two wacky episodes last week. Right. Right.

Everything's been so COVID. Yeah. I keep being like, come on. Anything else. And then he does this. I'm like, not this. And then it's like, hey, quit, quit scaremongering about vaccines. And then he's like, OK, well, I guess I'll go gerbils.

Yeah. Immigrants, hard people. No, no, no. Come on, man. How could you do that to me? I wanted something fun and interesting if me demons or heaven. Well, hey, look, Alex might not be in the best state today. That's might be what's going on.

Yeah. He got up early. He did have a. He was feeling in a good mood, though. People were talking about him on Twitter. That makes him feel good. His good mood does not last because he got up really early this morning and his wife was all mad at him because he was yelling on the phone.

Well, that'll happen. I'm going to try to calm down. I got mad again today. Again, I'm not complaining. All horses can't drag me away, but I've been up since. It's not exaggerate. I was saying five thirties. That sounds more reasonable.

I've been up since like three twenty seven. And I have been running around the house. My wife got mad at me because it's like five a.m. I woke her up because I was yelling at people on the telephone. And I mean, is there anybody on the other end watching your country collapse, watching an invasion, watching a takeover, watching the UN say why they're bringing these people in to keep them on welfare, piss them off and make them hate white people. And to know it's all part of the plan of all these news articles where they're saying

officially in campuses, whites are bad. Whites can't come to these classes. Whites can't be in the gym and it's whites teaching this because it's it's total divide and conquer. And we're watching them destroy our culture, destroy our unity, destroy everything Martin Luther King, Jr. talked about, and then they say they're the wild, totally repudiated and totally rejected. Yeah.

So there's a war on whites. And that's why Alex was yelling into the phone in the morning and woke his wife up and she's mad. But he's normal. He's normal. This is a normal response you have when there's a war on whites. Yeah. Anyway, I think I think that Alex is like a big time racist and a real like dangerous

anti-immigrant type. Right. But I also think that this mood really does have to do with that video. I think I think that it really does. I think he used to be fucking good looking. Yeah. He used to be gorgeous. What happened to me?

I think it might have struck a nerve. He's like he's like he's appreciate what we had and so we're losing it all right now. So I'm sorry. I'm not real happy about all that. And so, yeah, I don't look like I used to. I could look a lot better. I've got family that looks great at 60, 70 years old, but I took on all the stress. I stood up and I stayed up with nothing to coffee, probably two nights a week for the

first four or five years I was on air. I worked 20 hours a day. I hand edited all the films. I went ahead jobs on top of it. I did the sales jobs at the radio stations and had all of it taken away from me. I didn't care because I cared about the mission. And so do I look like a war hardened goblin, damn right I do and proud of it because I'm not trying to win pretty boy contest around here.

I'm here to take on the pain and take on the attacks and dedicate myself to bringing down the new world order because I will not spiritually and I will not genetically sign on to what Satan's doing. So all you people like Brad Pitt and another little globalist that sells tyranny over there. I mean, there's so many of them. Leonardo DiCaprio, you just rubbed skin creams on your faces all day and try to stay young because when you die, your soul and your energy is going to be sunken to the middle of a black hole with all the energy just like you because like attracts like.

But as for me, I don't care about this body. So there's a war on whites. Let me ask you a question. For all of his, can't you just see how evil they look on TV? Just evil. They're ugly. Their souls are hurtful. The stelters of the world.

Now if you're pretty, then you're evil because you're rubbing skin cream on yourself all day. Right. And you're not dedicating yourself to the fight against the new world order. He's good because he's a battle-hardened goblin. Yeah. Okay. All right.

I am starting to think that he might be a bit of a hypocrite. I think he's an idiot. I also do love though the idea that he's like, I took on all the stress. I took on the pain of the world and that's why I look like a mess. Yeah. That was definitely him talking to him. Not me. Yeah.

Yeah. It's totally fine. You're a hero. Exactly. Yeah. You do not need to do voices. Yeah. Look, I'm not in great shape and one of the reasons is because I don't try as hard as

I should. Sure. I'll be straight up about that. I think it's probably because of the fight. No. No. I'm going to have to go with it's the fight. I'm busy.

You care more about the mission? No. I'm busy, but I also choose things like unhealthy food. Sure. Sure. You know, I could exercise or I could watch another episode of Survivor. Sure. Sure.

And sometimes I choose the survivor. Yeah. And look, I'm a hero. Nonsense. Absolutely not. Anyway, look, the globalists, they have a plan. What are they up to? Look, they want to make their cells immortal.

Okay. All right. I'm going to state something that I say in different ways, but I just want to be completely clear about I'm trying to think of the best way to say this because I consider and cover all this news all day. But you understand that the big corporations of the world believe that they're going to develop super technologies so that the cells are going to be able to live forever. But they're worried that an overpopulated planet will hurt the planet and hurt their

nest to live forever on. And they go on in their own papers, their own statements. I mean, I saw more of them on TV the other day admitting this, that they can be killed by wars though. Oh, this feels like Highlander is like, you know, like we're immortal, but we can be killed by violence. Right. Right.

Right. Right. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Yeah. So the globalists want to create their cells to be immortal, but there's too many people. If they're immortal, they don't want everyone getting in the way of their fun because you know what, you know, I think that these immortal people, you know what they would really love

to do is spend their time in an agrarian existence growing their own food. Right. Right. You know, not having people, a society around where there's delegations of labor in places to we can all do different things and not have to deal with our basic necessities all the time. That reminds this reminds me of if there's like if there's like a couple of thousand globalists, how are they going to have a sanitation system like what are they going to do?

Well, I mean, in Asimov's, the robots of dawn trilogy, I forgot about the robots. They could. I believe what happened is they went off to another planet, the immortal rich people and they had giant massive estates covered with nothing but robots that took care of everything for them. And they never saw another human being in real life. They always video chatted, essentially, yeah. And can I can I be on earth man came and he was like, this is terrible.

And then they were like, yeah, I think you might be right. Yeah, it's dystopian. Yeah. This is a nightmare. This is awful. Yeah. The point of those novels like that are generally like, oh, no, this is what happens when rich people have ideas.

Yeah, like there's there's there's like technology is a great thing and it can be used in a lot of good ways, but left to go entirely in one direction. Yeah. It's a it's a yeah, anyway, I believe that Alex has no business speaking on public issues. He is a toxic, awful shithead. Agreed. Now the globalists, they might have thought differently at various points in Alex's career. This is so stupid.

Okay. My argument is if you can't talk to them at their level about this, then you don't deserve to live. And they've told me that they said, Alex, you know about all this because you're a smart guy. You have a lot of great ideas. If you join us, you'll be able to bring your perspective to the table and we will listen. But if you just oppose what we're doing, when you're going to grow up and find out it's

the right thing that the public is profane, they're evil, they'll tear you apart. They don't want to be empowered and you'll want to join us later. He does say that a bit now. Like everyone probably just deserves to die. Yeah. He does say that quite a bit. Yeah. Now I want to, I want to say one thing.

What's that? I don't know if I believe that the devil was trying to enlist Alex when he was a little kid and then throughout his entire life and then simultaneously the globalists have been trying to enlist him. Like it seems like maybe that's in his head. I mean, it's either that or there's a coordinated full court press for the past 30 years to get Alex Jones from the time before he ever had political inclinations. Yeah.

It was like a predestination thing when he was a child, he had a magical ability that the devil knew would be a problem for him later. He's a little bit psychic. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Yeah. Yeah. I think one possibility is, uh, he's making all this up.

Could be. Another one is, uh, he's nuts and a third is, I mean, Alex is the hinge, the linchpin upon which all time and history relies. Like he is as goes Alex. So goes history. It does feel like that is his central thesis. Yeah. I can't imagine a more important person in the world if the things he's saying are

true. The devil tried to recruit him and then his enemies have tried to recruit him. His enemies who by the way, uh, control all of the world's governments and all of the monetary systems and everything they've tried to recruit him and, and when they were trying to recruit him, they would have allowed his input to go into their plan. I was going to say, did he say, did he say that the globalist initially wanted him to moderate their globalist plans with his perspective or at least, you know, sharing his ideas? Yeah.

Yeah. Which kind of makes me question whether or not the globalists have had plans for a long time. It does seem like if they were still looking for input from a 12 year old bircher, their plans were not good. It might have been flexible. So fucking stupid. Yeah.

Yeah. That's bad. Congratulations, Rogan. You're hanging out with a fucking xenophobic racist who thinks he's the most important person in the world. Yeah. Congrats. Yeah.

Yeah. That's great. Good work. Um, so Alex, you know, his show is the way it is because of choices that have been made over the course of the last couple decades, you know, like he has fine tuned his show in ways that like this works for me. This isn't the way we do things, but you know what, it kind of sucks. And Alex is like, why does this show have to be the way it is?

That's a good question. So I feel empowered. I feel enraged at the globalist and I, when I'm not on air, I feel very, very calm and focused. But once I get on air, I just get angry and I really want to strive to start doing a show that's commercial free, music free, very small crew. I'll still have this great crew because it's a podcast, it's crazy. It's the way this show evolved for radio and TV and I like it, but it's, it's, it's frenetic

and it's frustrating and it's not really who I am. What's mad at these people? That's only one aspect. I want to talk about the good in the world and the beauty in the world and the good part of humanity and why we shouldn't be destroyed. Hey, I'm Alex Jones and today on the show, we're going to talk about squirrels. God they are amazing. I'm Alex Jones and I want to talk to you about the line work that you can see Van Gogh

did in Starry Night and how it evokes emotion beyond all reason. Hey, I'm Alex Jones. I'm here to tell you about why humanity should not be destroyed. Dumb dick. I'm Alex Jones and I'm here to advocate for love. I really do enjoy the way he's like, all right, the show evolved the way it did. But this isn't me. Yes, it is.

It isn't me. This isn't me. This absolutely this show is definitely not an expression of my rapidly deteriorating mind. It's frenetic and fast and that's my way of saying I never really cover anything. Yeah. Yeah. I get mad at the crew, but that's not all of me.

Sometimes I also get mad at the human race. Sure. The globalists. My children upset me sometimes. Totally. Look, the devil's coming. Oh, wow. Yeah.

There are thousands of fake ideologies and thousands of fake gurus and thousands of false schools that the system doesn't block and the system doesn't care about because it gives you part of the truth and part of lie and some weird little thing you do and it's going to make it all OK. No, there is a scientific global elite trying to take control of human development. They've almost got control. They want to kill everybody because they want to merge the machines and become God. That's the dominant force on the planet.

That's what we're opposing. That's what's happening and that's what's coming after all of us. And I have no desire to join with it. In fact, I have a revulsion and a repulsion of being part of it. And if you don't have a revulsion of these people, you are not in God's orbit and you've got a serious problem. You got a serious problem coming because the devil in the form of these people who want to become robots.

Yeah, for a guy who wants schools to teach that black people came to America because they were looking for jobs in a free market system. I don't know how much I want him telling me what schools are telling the truth. No, no, but I do think that he does have a reasonable point at the beginning there with like there are a lot of things that should be banned from YouTube that are totally. And it is. It is a little strange that there is, you know, the things that get the attention that are necessary for them to take action and the things that don't, you know, like I can

see all kinds of like space cults probably being as dangerous to somebody. I mean, when you, when you look at some of the investigative reporting on Facebook and how they not just kowtow to conservatives, but actively like help them out, you're like, you're not wrong. You're not wrong. Corporations are evil. Well, and, you know, like they, there's these ideologies that aren't banned. Right.

And it's like, yeah. Yeah. All right. I mean, I guess the answer would be even more social media crackdowns because I don't think the answer is just let anyone say whatever they want. Doesn't seem like he does. Unless YouTube decides that that's exactly what they want their platform to be. And then I think that could lead to some problems for them.

Probably. But I don't know. The devil. Yeah. He's coming. Mm hmm. He's usually coming. And so Alex knows this because he's connected to God and he's also connected to the devil.

Okay. We, we've heard him say that. Yeah. We've heard him say that he has a weird position living in between both worlds. And then it goes real bad. Uh-oh. And I'm connected to God and I'm connected to Satan as well and I can see these guys. I've got the sunglasses on and I want you to put the sunglasses on and then we're not

going to be fighting over what color we are the rest of it. It's almost like, oh, then let the Haitians in. The Haitians are a weapon that the globalists have controlled and dominated and enslaved as slaves for hundreds and hundreds of years sold by slavers to us. And there's, and some of them are great people. Some of them are terribly evil people. Just like everybody else. But the point is they're coming into the globalist hands to be controlled and used as a political

weapon. I'm all for water. I need to drink it to live. I love beautiful lakes and waterfalls and I love the waterski and I love to do all that stuff. I love to ride around the jet ski, but I don't want to be held underwater at 20 feet for five minutes till I die. And so the Haitians are just like water.

Dirty corrupted water being brought to our dirty corrupted country to bring us down with their satanic energy. Jesus Christ. So Haitians don't care about their children or women. Uh-huh. Many cultures are like that. Are thugs. Yeah.

It's a survival of the thuggest. And then not just that, but they are also a tool and a weapon. That's pretty standard white nationalist ideology, though, too, that the other populations from like developing countries are being used as a weapon by the globalists. Since something Alex says quite a bit, I just don't like the idea of like the Haitians are like water. They're dirty corrupted water. God, what the fuck is wrong with you?

Yeah, that's really, really, really disgusting. Yeah. So these immigrants are being brought in because that'll take down America. And then once America is gone, there'll be nothing to fight the anti Christ. Yeah, that's right. This is where this is going. But they're being brought here as a political weapon, just like every other group is because once the country goes down, there'll be no other example of America and the whole world's

going to go down and fall anti Christ control. We know that's foretold to happen, but we're going to put on a hell of a fight before it. Why? And it Christ only has a short period of rule and so you're fighting against God and Satan's defeat. You see, Satan taking over is only half time, folks. It's only the half time. This alien force is going to win at half time, but lose in the fourth quarter.

Okay. So I don't know. I think it's a little bit funny that like, I don't know, skeptics and, you know, those sorts of communities are, you know, pretty, pretty into being like, Hey, what about, I was going to be right about a bunch of stuff. Yeah. Yeah. He believes that.

Yeah. You know, I think it's, I think it's weird. And then, and then it all, and then it made perfect sense because for people who prophesy shit all the time, prophecies coming true, it aren't important like because if the only thing that could possibly validate your religion is if all of your prophecies come true, right? That's it. And the book of revelations is done. There's, you can't make more book of revelations.

So if the book of revelations doesn't happen as it's written, then your religion is a lie. Or it requires a reinterpretation. I mean, sure, sure, but they're basing their, he's basing his Bible on that. It's the literal truth of God. Sure. Written by God. Yes. For him, it's a problem.

So to fight against what happens in the book of revelations is to blaspheme against God himself and say that you have power over him. Well, see, I thought about that, but then I think that another way to look at it is that Alex has doomed himself to a losing fight and that he has cast himself in the role of the people who fight against the antichrist that are destined to lose at halftime. Sure. And that's the position he's putting himself in, great, because it helps getting some kind of, I think it, I think it, I think it allows him to say these kinds of things that he says

about immigrants and give these positions and be such a toxic, awful, dangerous persona and still pretend that he's a good person. Like somehow like there is, there's a, there's integrity to what I'm doing because I'm fighting against the antichrist in this, like I'm going down with the ship or whatever, as opposed to like, I'm just trying to get people hurt. It's a better way to look at it. If you want to sleep. I suppose.

Yeah. If you want to sleep, that is a good way to recontextualize your monstrous actions. Yeah. So Alex said he was going to get back to talking about that video of him from when he was younger, because that's fun, but it's fun, but it turns out there's no time for fun. Mr. Jones. Damn it. You know, I said, I'd get to the fun Alex Jones thing, but we just won't get to that

because, you know, fun, we've had enough fun, haven't we to make some jokes to maybe I'll do it next hour of a medical doctor coming on who was in the hospital and watched him basically killing people and he was in there with a marathon runner who they wouldn't give medication to. Oh, he demanded they give him medication because he was a medical doctor. They swat team. Do you know he was happy to leave the hospital and tied him up and put him in a restraining chair for four hours and then threw him out of the hospital and we said, Hey, let us know

what happens. Well, they wouldn't give the guy any aid until he got sicker. And then of course, you know what they do, they innovate you and you die. So a fellow died a little while after he was in the hospital next to him in the bed next to him. And he was a long term medical doctor. He's retired. And he was telling them what they, what the guy needed, you know, antibiotics got the

pneumonia. You can hear it. And they just said, No. Yeah. So there's no time for fun because he's got to interview this guy who was in a hospital next to a guy and then got swat teamed. I don't know. That's a pretty confusing sort of yeah, I would, I would like a more concrete narrative

of events. I'll get to it once the guy comes on the show. But yeah, that was a little bit. I don't even think that the guest dude, this, this guy would back up this story. I think that's a little bit. That might be a little sensationalized. Yeah. But there is still some time for fun.

Sure. This particular clip has 430,000 views as of last night and it says teenage content creator, Alex Jones. They're going to say there's an underlying story here. Did he get a head injury at some point after this because I was so nice and friendly and sweet. And there's the tens of thousands of tweets of women saying, man, he seems like a really nice guy.

Not the mean guy. He is now. Well, you see, I already knew about all this stuff and I was fighting it, but then I lived it and went through 27, 28 years of it. And so yeah, it took a toll on me caring about myself and my family and everybody else. I care too much. That's why I'm not this sensible, seeming hot, young man anymore. There's no way I could change my eating habits.

No, but that's, that's what, that's what I think is really interesting is that like, there's a physical defensiveness that Alex has about like how people are saying he used to be hot. Yeah. And then there's also a defensiveness about like, he seemed like a normal person. Yeah. Like there's like, you, you have lost it both physically and emotionally and intellectually. Yeah.

Yeah. You, you are essentially a completely different person in the like Madden stat levels. They've all gone down universally. It's like, it's like, it's like the difference between Madden Drew Brees in 2001 and Madden Drew Brees in 2014. There's a big difference there. Well there's one stat category that Alex is still really high in and that is a bullhorn technique.

That's true. He's still got it. Yeah. He does still got it. One thing that he's getting better at it turns out is releasing films because you know it's been a long time. I am confused as to how he's gotten better about that. Well, I mean, it's been like nine years since he did it.

Well, that is better. Let's get back on the horse. Shit. You need to fight back against the new lockdowns. That's why we've made a new film, the first in a five part series. It's a full film called Covenland with Robert Kennedy Jr. Dr. Sherry Tinpinney, myself and everybody else. It's star studded researchers and patriots very, very proud of this film.

Our first produced film in nine years. Because I fired Millie. Yeah. It's a shadowgate. Yep. Yep. We don't have any in-house production staff anymore, so got to go somewhere else. People keep coming up with ideas and I fire them.

The gate of gates killed me. So the bat signal has gone up. I may have to check in on this Covenland documentary. I suppose we'll have to get there. Oh boy. So this doctor comes on and he's a guy named Steven Goffanti. His deal is that he was in the hospital being treated for COVID and he decided he would go ahead and play doctor for the person playing leg.

Yeah. Yeah. He is a retired doctor, but this is still inappropriate. Yeah. No. He's way up on current medical technology, I'm sure. Goffanti looked over the guy's records. He got permission from the guy in the hospital.

So it's not like a total violation, but he decided that the doctors missed a very simple pneumonia diagnosis and they wouldn't listen to him when he brought it up. The next details are a little bit hazy because it's just Goffanti is telling of the story because obviously the hospital can't comment on the treatment given to a third person without their consent. So Goffanti claims that he tried to be named this other patient's advocate, but the nurses wouldn't call the doctor. So Goffanti decided like he was going to check himself out against medical advice.

Great. At that point, allegedly he was restrained for a while and then he was discharged from the hospital. Right. Against medical advice. Right. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that there's some details missing from this story. That sounds bad.

I don't know what they are, but there's something that doesn't match up. Anyway, I'll tell you one thing that I know for a fact is in that story and left out. That guy was an asshole to a bunch of people, belligerence. I would assume. Totally. Or I think that there is a possible liability that the hospital could take on totally. This guy is acting as a doctor inappropriately like you can't do that just because this guy says like I am his medical advocate or whatever doesn't mean that there isn't still

a lawsuit possible. I don't know. I don't know exactly, but there's something missing. I don't really care about what it is, right? Because this guy, uh, Gafanti comes on Alex's show and he's talking about this other patient that was there in the hospital with him and this guy has died and now there's a funeral that's going to happen. Yeah.

And Alex gets really excited kind of about this story in a way that's just disgusting. And by the way, did you talk to the families that how you got photos of the man and would you like to say his name or do they want that to humanize him? Um, his name is Keith and his funeral is next Saturday. And there's a GoFundMe page for his funeral as the kids are looking at our orphans now. Well, I didn't know that, so I'm glad you're back on. Can you doc look that up or let us know? And while I'd like to get his children on, guys, the producers, can we call and get his

children on their mother, daughter cancer, you know, it was in the vaccine folks, uh, the cancer viruses, the SV 40, the rest of it. And then now dad's dead. Uh, well, what a nightmare situation. Well, I'm glad doc, you're telling us about that. Wow. He's Alex has just decided that, uh, this woman who he knows nothing about had a cancer and it must have been caused by vaccines.

Uh, wow. What, what a way to turn this, uh, this tragedy into something profitable in your anti-vax grift. You fuck. Yeah. He was offended by, uh, missing a pneumonia diagnosis. He should be really offended by that, uh, but he's not because he's, because he's a shit head.

Absolutely. Yep. And so one of the things that he did, um, was he took a picture of this guy, uh, in the hospital and posted it on Facebook and presumably he got permission from the guy, uh, Keith Schumpf to post this picture on Facebook. Uh, but guess what? The family is not thrilled about it. Not surprising.

Have you, have you had a chance to talk to the family? Uh, yes, uh, they were not happy with me posting his, uh, hospital, uh, garb on, on Facebook, but I'm afraid it was my Facebook post that got, um, that got him, uh, antibiotics and, uh, you know, a chance, you know, that's how young people are. And I'm sure they're just emotional because at first they don't want the attention, but then they got more attention. You know, you knew him when he was talking and, you know, uh, you're begging for help right before they intubated him.

Yes. Yeah. You knew him better than his kids. Wow. Yep. Wow. I mean, I can't imagine like if it, because here's the story that you could tell, I guess is either the patient says no, no, no current doctors, listen to this 80 year old man, maybe

like 70 and then give me what he says, right? And then there's no way you wouldn't sue the hospital later and be like, how fucking dare you take the advice of this crazy person, right? But then to, to, I don't know to do that to him is insane. I don't understand how insane, I don't understand how this guy who's here on Alex's show, this gaffanti can look in the mirror and recognize that the family of this person that he like gaffanti isn't somebody who's relevant at all. The only reason that he is even on Alex's shows because he was in the hospital next

to this guy happened to be fucking in an episode of scrubs. The other guy is essentially what the gaffanti is writing to attention on. Yeah. And the family does not appreciate that. And the just appearing on the show and discussing this stuff is legitimately, you can make pretty safe assumption against the wishes of the family. Yeah. It's an insult.

Yes. It's degrading. And to then have Alex be like, Oh yeah, young people don't want attention until they're emotional. I mean, yeah, Jesus. So he's, he keeps mentioning that they have a go fund me for the funeral and Alex wants them to plug it. And I'm very glad actually that he doesn't.

I don't think he actually knows what it is. Yeah. So it's not like a choice. But that would have doxed these people and I would have been fucked up. I'm glad that they didn't mostly because it seems pretty clear that the family does not like this guy at all. But I mean, I'm sure the family appreciates you now trying to save their father. Yeah, never know.

Remember doctors are the bringers of bad news. You know, so I don't know. I'll find out if they appreciate me or not at the funeral. No, no, no, no, no, no. That much to go to his funeral and and, you know, I mean, I saved a lady once it was choking. Great. Look, if someone, if you're not, if you're not sure the family is going to be pissed off at you or not, don't go to the fucking funeral.

You pile of shit. What is wrong with you? I will tell you what I would do if I saw him show up at that funeral, call a SWAT team and tie him to a fucking chair for four hours. I don't understand. I don't get it. How can how can you live like this? What a fucking psycho.

That's just that level of like, maybe you don't have any empathy. Like that's just insane. That's just so fucking disrespectful. It's I mean, just exploitative and all in your own service to make you feel like you are important and a hero. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. The story is like, oh, this went from boring, like, okay, maybe this guy had a misdiagnosis

of the person next to him in the hospital and I don't care to like, wow, it's really clear even from the way you are talking that this family is not thrilled with your behavior and how you're exploiting their loved one. Yep. And that's fucked up. That is not. It's just wrong. I mean, it's treating this guy like a thing.

God, I would be furious if he went on local access news, let alone to go on fucking info wars. Talking about like your loved one. Exactly. Yeah. Oh my God. It's unthinkable. I hope they sue him.

Yeah, absolutely. Anyway, we have one last clip and it's Alex discussing. So we've heard him talk a bit about like, you know, there's people getting COVID around him. Sure. But we haven't really talked or heard him talk about like some specifics. And it turns out his parents, especially his dad, may have had a really severe case. That's not surprising.

My father, again, and mother got sick with COVID like five weeks ago and I've told this story. It's incredible. My parents are tough. They're in pretty good shape. Me and my mom used to be a triathlete and she still swims probably like five, six, seven miles a week. Cool.

My dad does as well. He didn't swim that far, but they didn't tell me they were sick. So I hear they're sick and I go, well, that's that this is serious. I go over there and my dad is laying there, not knowing who he is naked in his bed and he's never liked that. And he looks like he's 90 years old and he's 71 and he looks blue and he had like 82 oxygen. So I called Dr. Bartlett. He sends over medical doctors.

He knows the house. They're listeners, great people. It's one of the friends benefits of being Alex Jones. They're just like, they're like an hour. They describe the stuff. They should go get it. They they go, gotta use a small pharmacy. I call a small one.

The place won't give it to you. Got to be destined, got the Ivermectin got the pill steroids. They said and then they said, get him up, make him do this and that and make him breathe it. And I was literally having to like not slap him, but like pinch him and say, breathe this, breathe this. He's like, I'm fine. I'm going back to sleep.

My mom was doing the same thing and he'd lost like 20-something pounds and he's not fat like I am. And by the next morning, again, they delivered a bunch of lawn chairs that he hadn't put together. His other ones fell apart and he was there putting them together. Now, his mind had a fog for a week or so and it still hadn't come back completely. But as for his body and his oxygen, two days later was back at 97% and that was the Ivermectin, that was the steroids.

And we know. I don't believe that for a number of reasons. One of them is that Alex has always said that these things are like they're miracle cures, but you got to give it to them people early. Yeah. Alex's dad was deep into a sickness there. That is not early in. It's not like the, even based on the conspiracies and the bullshit that Alex spreads at that

point, Ivermectin should not have been helpful to him. Second, I don't know how much of this is real. I don't know how much of this is true and how much of it is a story Alex is telling. But if there is truth to this, I don't see like, I don't see it being impossible that Alex got his dad sick. Yeah, totally. And maybe gave him something that could be permanent. Yeah.

Yeah. This brain fog that wasn't there. Long COVID is not a fake thing. Well, but you know, to whatever extent it is, yes, absolutely, but like he's just based on what Alex is reporting. His dad had a brain fog that has not gone away now five weeks later. This could be something that he got through exposure from Alex, not taking the virus seriously and could be something that lasts the rest of his life.

And even if it's not, like it's deeply traumatic to lose 20 pounds if you're 71 and end up not knowing your name, like fever, presumably a fever so high you don't know where you are. Like, this is just sick shit. I mean, and also one thing, how can COVID be a bio weapon if everybody, you know, fucking got it and you're fine, I guess now, well, you know, we assume, right? I mean, Alex didn't tell these stories about like his family being sick, him being sick multiple times for everyone at the office being sick. Yeah.

He didn't tell those stories for a very long time. There's a real decent chance that there are friends of friends or other people who are you could trace a case back totally who are dead and we just don't know it. Yeah. He doesn't know it. Or if he does, he's not going to talk about it. Absolutely not. He wouldn't talked about this before when he was in a different stage of the COVID

grift. Yep. Like it's just, I find this episode to be like, I mean, look, I declared an episode recently unacceptable. Right. Right. Right. And I deemed this one unacceptable.

It's not wrong. This is not fit for human consumption. It really isn't. It's really, really, really, really fucked up. I don't know how many different ways you can be. I mean, astonishingly disgusting. Yeah. I mean, yeah, he and his ex-blackwater buddy dehumanize the shit out of immigrants in

ways that are reminiscent of deeply, deeply troubling times. He gets really mad and defensive about how he used to be hot and not insane. He spins weird yarns about how the devil and the globalists have been trying to enlist him. And then he interviews a guy who's using the memory of someone he was in the hospital with to get attention. Yep. This is just fuck all of you.

I mean, this is a this is a real fucking villains row of just like nonstop shittiness. Yeah. There are times when like doing this show is really fun and like you learn about stuff and, you know, and then there's times where I'm mad that we do this. It's just this episode is one that's like, man, I don't I don't think that I like this is my job. Yeah. Yeah.

Sometimes sometimes it's interesting and sometimes it's just staring into the gaping ma of the depths of human depravity and disgust. Yeah. You know, just like how, how can how, how can you do this? No, no argumentation is going to convince Alex or ex blackwater guy that people from other cultures love their children or just people. Yeah. Yeah.

No response that we have can possibly penetrate that kind of thinking. Yeah. And it's just it's depressing that people would either willingly or unwittingly give credence and credibility to someone whose job it is to spread bullshit like this. Yeah. And it's, I mean, yeah, it's where we are. Yeah. It is one of those things where like you, you have to step back from them because you

realize that like these people are fucking disgusting and it's, it's too late to like change their mind or anything. What needs to be addressed is how many famous people, public people, people are attaching themselves to this who are, I mean, I would hope at least a little more fungible in let's kill all non white peoples, you know, you would hope that their, their support is based on a lack of awareness. You would hope the things that Alex actually talks about as opposed to them actually being on board with this horrible vile bullshit.

Yeah. It's either that or just be like, Hey, Joe Rogan is an out now Nazi the end. Hey, now. Yeah. I mean, well, so anyway, we'll be back hopefully for an acceptable episode. Let's hope. Yeah. But until then we have website.

We do. It's knowledge fight.com. Yep. We're also on Twitter. We are on Twitter. It's at knowledge underscore fight and that go to bed Jordan. Yeah. We'll be back.

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