Knowledge Fight - #610: June 23, 2003

Episode Date: October 29, 2021

Today, Dan and Jordan once again put Alex in timeout and retreat to the past. In this installment, Alex proposes a shocking new labor platform, discusses meeting a Globalist in a bathroom, and reveals the true problem with the Harry Potter books.

I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys knowledge fight. Dan and George, knowledge fight. I need money. Andy and Kansas. Andy and Kansas. Andy and Kansas. Andy and Kansas. It's time to pray. Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. Hello, Alex. I'm a Christian. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. Knowledge fight. Knowledge fight dot com. I love you, everybody. Welcome back to demon feast. Right out the gate, changing things up. I think it was going to be a race for one of us to say it. So I might as well get to a real fast. Yeah, you you defeated me there. That was that was well done. I got snook attack on. Yeah, I know. Welcome back to knowledge fight. I'm Dan. Hi, I'm Jordan. We're

couple dudes like to sit around worse, but the alter of Sleen and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Oh, indeed we are, Dan. And I would like to start the show by apologizing for not knowing that that was or not recognizing that was Chuck Manjoni, the king of the flugel horn. Yes, we were. We were both very roundly shame. Oh, I mostly only know Chuck Manjoni from the Children of Sanchez soundtrack. Right. Right. Right. So I did not. I did not recognize feels so good. That's on me. Anyway, it's great song. Yeah, no argument there. Sure. Jordan. Quick question. Jordan. What's your bright spot today? My bright spot today. I'm going to loop back to the eco challenge show that I was watching because I was thinking about it. I finished it and I realized what I

liked so much about it as a structure. It was all inspirational. It was all positive. Yeah, everything about it was people trying their hardest with people they cared about and trying to finish right. Like the first half of the show had kind of a focus on what team was going to come in first and that was like pretty, you know, something to be proud of. Sure. Sure. But then even after the winner, like everyone was still just as excited about like, are these people going to finish? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And just like everybody, everybody just there's a goodness. No, it's fantastic. You know, and I think that there's so many shows that are about kicking people or like, you know, being sort of, there's a shot and Freud aspect to them. And it just, it was devoid of

any of that. Whenever somebody had to quit or got hurt, it was a tragedy. Yeah. When people pushed through and tried as hard as they could, but still didn't make the cut off. They were congratulated for never quitting. Right. Of course. Of course. It's just great. Yeah. Made me feel very, very warm. Yeah. There was a, we watched a documentary of my partner and I on about the, this woman who was running the Iditarod for like 20 years and she just could not get further. You know, she was, she was really good. She cared a lot. And then all of a sudden she starts coming in second, second, second, over and over and over again. Brutal. She's like helping people. She could have won like twice, but instead somebody got trapped behind her and she was like, I'm going to go

save them. You know, like it was that kind of shit. And you're like, it's not about winning, man. It's about this lady. That's great. Yeah. That's what it's about. Yeah. Even with this, this eco challenge is like a lot of people who are old time adventure racers who are like past their prime. Yeah. Yeah. And just seeing them like just monthly and it's great. It's great. Anyway, I recommend it. Yes. It's the final table of outdoor racing to dig real deep. No, I wonder why there wasn't a second season of that could have been the absurd production values. Maybe, maybe a little on the pricey side for a overhead was high. Overhead was high. Yeah. So what about you? What's your right spot? I'm going to follow up a few months,

not a few months ago, a few weeks ago. I had said that we were starting to eat healthy and do these, this meal thing and all that stuff. I have lost five pounds. Wow. Yeah. All right. That's nuts. Yeah. It's also nuts because I'm the one who needs to lose five pounds. You're plenty thin. I know. My partner is very frustrated with me and I realized what happened. You need to build, you need gains bro. It's not about eating healthy for me. It's that the food tastes fine. So when I'm done, I'm done. Sure. Like I used to order out all the time and I like the taste so I just kept eating it. Yeah. And now it's not that good. It's not terrible. You know, some of it tastes okay. Yeah. But you want to serve it. Exactly. I want one and then I'm out. Yeah. You're full enough.

It's crazy how you got people just eat like that. It's not like a giant thing of mac and cheese. Yeah. I don't need it. Yeah. It works. Well, congratulations. Thanks. I don't know. Grudging me. I don't know how much congratulations. Yeah. I think it's more of my bright spot just because it's very weird. I'm, you know, not like bragging. Sure. It's weird. Sure. But I think that maybe having a different relationship with eating that's not like you hurting yourself is maybe positive. It's way better. I haven't beaten myself with a bag of Cheetos for a while. Yeah. Well, hooray. So Jordan, today we have an episode from the past. Yay. Going back to 2003 because quite frankly, I was in a situation where I've got some side projects I'm working on, which we'll talk about

eventually. But also like on Monday's episode, Alex was talking about advice about maybe you should kill your family. Right. Right. I don't know what is more timeout worthy than that. That was one of the most fucked up things imaginable. And actually I went back when I was editing the episode and I looked up that story that you mentioned about the guy who killed his brother and his brother's wife. Yeah. And it was shockingly very similar to that. I was a little bit disappointed that I didn't pick up those pieces as clearly in preparation of the episode, but it did seem like that was kind of what he was touching on a little bit. Yeah. And it was, there's a weird feeling that I have and that it's partially that like whenever Alex says he's going to eat his neighbors,

a million views on Twitter. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. When he's like, maybe it's time for you to think about killing your family if they like vaccines. Yeah. I didn't see that go viral. Yeah. Yeah. Anybody point that out. It is. I didn't even see him saying it's a demon feast go viral. That could have. That is, that is a real bummer that we, we, he exists in that space where people love to, to like infantilize him as being, Oh, he's the guy who says crazy stuff like eat your neighbors. But then it goes, and there's really only a tiny difference in tone of voice between it's time to eat your neighbors and it's time to kill your family. It's the tiniest difference. Yeah. I think there's also a difference between being like, Hey, if my family's starving, I will

eat my, I will cook and eat my neighbors. And Hey, maybe it's time to think about, Hey, look, I don't judge what families do. It's a family affair. You might have to kill your family if they like vaccine. Well, I mean, what if you're really hungry? You might have to eat your family too. Hell, that's true. There's always a, there's always a loophole in the little boy. I will say that sometimes it gets disheartening. Yeah. And I'll push through that and we'll get back to the present day on Monday. But I was just like, I don't, I can't, I can't imagine something worse than this. And I can't imagine how mad I would be if there is something that's worse than no one is dealing with it seriously. No, all forced contrarianism aside, that's really fucked up. And I'm glad

we're not in the present. So Jordan, like I said, we're in the past and we will get down to business on that. But first let's say hello to some new walks. Oh, it's a great idea. So first, this is just a theme, I guess, farting for my life in a demon feast. Thank you so much. You're now a policy walk. I'm a policy walk. Thank you very much. Next, Martin, year 11 is the policy walk anniversary. Thank you so much. You are now a policy walk. I'm a policy walk. Thank you, Martin. Yeah. And that's great because I do think that we should try and brand one anniversary as the policy walk. That's policy walk anniversary. So on your, I mean, look, the suggestion is 11. Right. On your 11th anniversary, now you have to annoy your partner. Right. With really in-depth things

about tax code or healthcare law. Yeah, I don't think we could pull off 666 is the wonk anniversary. No one lives that long. I don't think that would be, I mean, not yet. Sure. Once we get these life extension technologies, then we'll see. You know what? We got to do it now. We got to, we got to control it now before it happens. Right. I usually am not in favor of some of your ideas. This one. I'm all about it. Yes. Preemptively, the 666th anniversary is the policy walk anniversary. Yes. In his law. Yeah. Next, Kevin, thank you so much. You're now a policy walk. I'm a policy walk. Thanks, Kevin. I know. Next, Jeff. Thank you so much. You're now a policy walk. I'm a policy walk. Thank you, Jeff. Hey, we got a technocrat out there. So what's up,

extra saucy Mike? Thank you so much. You are now a technocrat. I'm a policy walk. Crikey, Mike. That's fantastic. Have yourself a brew. How's your 401k doing, bro? We got to go full tilt buggy on this Watson. All right. Let's just get down to business. We ain't making that money off that heroin. Why are you pimp so good? My neck is freakishly large. I declare info war on you. Thank y'all. Yes. Thank you very much. Now, Jordan, the 23rd of June, 2003 is what we're going over. Okay. And I will admit, I wasted a bit of my time listening to the episode prior to this. The 20th. Oh, the 20th. Okay. Because that was over the weekend. Gotcha. It's a repeat, and I didn't realize it for a while. That's fair. Not fair. Doesn't speak highly of some of his

broadcasts in 2003. It took me a second and then I'm like, wait, why are you defending yourself about being drunk on a boat yelling at people? I remember this. Like you're not doing the exact same conversation again. I know you cut your hand. People started the conspiracy. So there's not not a ton that that's going to be all that interesting for us to go into here. But there's a couple. There's a couple of points that I found very illuminating. Okay. And I'm excited to get into that. But first, here's not a context drop that will come in very handy in the future. You're a traitor, Dan. Oh, man. Oh, man. God damn it. Come on, Alex. This is going to round out our zoo crew. Fuckin big forever. Because now we've got a negative. We've got a

positive. We've got it. We don't even need us anymore. Let's be real. No. Alex, you're really dumb. You're a traitor, Dan. Come on. See what I'm saying? Come on, Alex. This is terrible. Who do you think you're talking to? We're not doing vaudeville. We're not doing this. We're not doing this. Shut it down. All right, fine. So here we go. We're going to start on at the beginning of this year, June 23rd episode. And this clip, I think, is really illustrative of why it's dumb to try and talk to someone like Alex or try and correct him. Because I think that you're never going to really get through. He's talking about the Charles Sells Supreme Court decision. Right. And we've talked about that quite a bit in

our 2003 episodes so far. Here's his take on people who try and correct him about the ruling. Last Monday, the Supreme Court ruled they can grab you for any reason forcibly drug you and that it gives them total police state power. Now, most of the headlines I saw in the newspapers and what I saw on television said that oh, the Supreme Court has moved to restrict forced drugging of individuals for trial. I read the ruling. It said as long as there's not a great chance the medication will kill you, they can do it. So they have to fill out a little form and dot an I and cross a T. It takes about 60 seconds, literally. And that's it. They just got to have a prison doctor say this drugs fine and it happens. But the average person's emailing

me going Alex, I heard your show. You said that the Supreme Court said they can force drug. That's not true. Well, I'm sorry for folks out there that don't know how to read a federal rulings or even read deeper into the articles themselves. But the headline may say they restricted forced drugging. But the meat of the articles and the ruling shows that they basically made unlimited. No, that's not true at all. These random people who are emailing Alex are absolutely correct. But what's fascinating about this is at least in 2003, Alex seems to have an awareness of this distinction between a headline and body of article. Yeah, that that distinction is gone. Yeah, his present day awareness. Yeah, him saying that you need to read beyond the

headline. Yeah, made me want to start barking viscerally. Well, it's insulting. It's very offensive. Yeah. How dare you? Yeah, not have you no decency? Not cool. Yes. Yeah, I think that these people who are emailing him are correct. And he's just you you can give him exactly the right information. Yeah. And it'll just to be like, no, you need to read deeper. What you don't understand is how to read these documents. They actually mean the opposite of what they say. Yeah, if somebody is telling you you're not reading something right because you're engaging with what it says, right? Then you are. What do you say? Right? You know, like you have to then go to first principles, right? Do we agree that a is this a book? What are we? What are we talking

about here? Are we talking about a book that you've written in the margins of the book I'm reading? It's a it's a fundamental disagreement about like what you can get like how information is taken from source to receiver of information. No, no, no. It's what the documents don't say. Okay, well, then leave me alone forever. Yeah, good. Do info jazz. Yeah, I don't care. Do that over there. But don't fucking pretend. No. Don't pretend that's anything other than an art form. Right. It's about the notes you don't play. So Alex has a big story on this day. And this is fascinating This is a huge problem for Alex. And he is on the exact wrong side of this issue. Of course, he is based on his political principles. Actually, Wayne Jeffrey,

a seven year veteran of the Fall River force was fired May 29 after an internal investigation prompted by a unsigned letter that claimed he smoked tobacco at a party. Oh, wow. Now unsigned letters, you lose your job. A 1988 state law that police officers and firefighters is subject to immediate termination. If they are found to be using tobacco products, either on or off duty. Really? And it goes on. It's our policy to investigate any accusation. Clearly, regardless of the source, police chief John Solza told Fall River News Herald, the statute as written provides us no room for discretion. Oh, so see now a fifth grader draws a picture of his father who's an army captain in Iraq. This just happened a month ago. Draws a

picture of his father, the captain with an M16 during art class. Police were called. He was detained and expelled for the year. I don't know about this art school story, art class story. Whoa. This art class story got out of hand real quick. It did. But this story is really interesting about this guy, Wayne Jeffrey, who was a police officer in Falls River. Right. And so look, Alex is trying to present this as a police state kind of thing. There's a zero tolerance for all this stuff. You just get jammed up. Right. Right. Right. And I don't know what the art thing, like exactly how it relates to the police guy getting fired for smoking, but that's obfuscation. The Fall River Police Department has a zero tolerance policy on smoking

among officers, whether they're on or off duty for a very specific reason. I wonder if you can guess it. Like, can you, can you workshop in your brain? Why that might be the case? I don't know, because in Falls, they're the only cops who carry around hand grenades at all times. Yes. They all have cartoons. Yeah, I was going to say that. Yeah, that makes sense. It's because they don't want to allow for any insurance claims that present things like smoking linked heart or lung cancer as being work related. So if you're disallowed from smoking at work and you have one of those conditions, they don't have to pay out in the insurance. You're right. I should have assumed capitalism was the problem. I should have immediately assumed, oh, somebody needs money

somewhere along the line. This is a fun case where Alex and I are both against this thing, but for completely different reasons. I'm opposed to the rule because they can, they clearly don't care if someone smokes or not. They're just trying to, you know, save money by not having to pay some cops health care. Right. Alex is opposed to it because he's created a fake version of the story to present, you know, it's just yet another example of the New World Order taken over. It's it's a human resources issue. Jesus. That's so fucking annoying. Yeah. Every, oh, I can't, but I, oh, come on, man. Is there nowhere? Is there nowhere? It's wild. So anyway, Alex seems to think this, this bizarre notion that in this case,

the cop should have to go on trial. I'm sorry. What now? Yeah, it's, it's nuts. The cops should have to go. Okay. Why don't we do other officers have been fired since the law went into effect, but Jeffrey's case was the first base on an anonymous tip. I don't think they drafted this law. They intended it to be used in this manner. Jeffrey said to the Boston Herald, if you're charged with a crime, you get to face your accuser. I never got to face my accuser. Well, sorry, Jeffrey, not underpaid free at all. They can arrest Alex Jones and my wife wonders where I am 20 years later when they find me in a shallow grave. Give the feds. Don't take the time to put me in a meat grinder or about an acid. That has nothing to do with this. Do the feds put people

in vats of acid? Whether they do or not is irrelevant. This is a human resources issue. I'm not allowed to face my accuser. Sir, sir. You just, you just don't work for us anymore. Nobody's, nobody's putting you in jail. Right. I got in trouble back when I used to work in a subway because one of my coworkers saw me eating a meatball and snitched on. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I did not have a chance to face my accuser. Yeah. For the shift. I told you're done for the day. Get out of here. Stop eating the meatballs. I did not get you. You should have had a trial. How dare they? Is it just? Are you going to assume that you've eaten the meatball? It could have been anybody. You can't trust that eyewitness account. Right. Dirty snitch. You could bring

in. It's been proven that eyewitness accounts are easily adjustable. You know, like, yeah, this is bullshit. Also, I got a tip. Look, very good source. Yeah. This guy who snitched on me was on the management's payroll. All right. All right. All right. That's two vaudeville. That's two vaudeville. So look, I mean, Alex is like legitimately convinced that somehow this smoking of the cop that the cop did is a crime that he needs to have due process for. Right. It's so ridiculous. I like it. I've got all this earth shattering news of incredible import, but I decided to start the show today with the cop being fired. The veteran police officer is an anonymous letter said someone saw him smoking at a party tobacco and they say zero tolerance when we

don't need to have witnesses. We don't need to know who the person is. They just said you did it and that's the end of it. See, anonymous. This is how it works now. And the cop says, wait, I'm innocent for proven guilty. I have due process. You have to tell me, you know, who said this or you have to have a trial and they go, no, we don't. We don't have to do anything because this is the new world order. Because it's the cops. There's no right to due process based on employment. This is a completely silly thing that Alex is claiming, although maybe it's not the worst idea in the world. Maybe it would be good to get rid of at will employment where workers are seen as disposable commodities that can be replaced in a second. Maybe we should

replace that with the system where a company wants to fire somebody. They have to prove their case in court. You don't think that Alex would appreciate. I think you're going. That seems to be what he's saying. No, I know that's what he's saying, but I don't think he's saying that. I think that Alex would totally be in favor of this considering how huge an infringement that would be on a business's ability to operate within the mythical free market and considering how many big government processes would need to be put in place to make sure businesses adhered to this and gave their employees a fair day in court if they wanted to fire them. God damn Alex versus a Millie Weaver in court on the gate of gates. Oh, I want it. I want it.

I want that deposition real bad in the case of Alex Jones versus David Knight for firing. Alex calls our star witness Steve Pachett. It's a human resources issue. This is so dumb. If the cop feels that he was fired wrongfully, like he was wrongfully terminated, he can sue. And then at that point, the court can decide whether or not it is valid for him to be fired for smoking. When there is a statute that says you can be fired for smoking, you can challenge that statute eventually, but it doesn't have anything to do with whether or not the person who snitched on you smoking was anonymous or not. Yeah, like it's you don't have due process. You don't have to face your accuser. You're not innocent until proven guilty.

This matters. I mean, also he's making it sound like there was an anonymous tip and they went to the cop and they were like, man, somebody said you've been smoking and he's like, no, I've never smoked before in my life. And they like pulled his jacket open and pulled out a pack of Marlboro's and they're like, ha, we got him. Put it in the evidence locker, cuffed him behind his back and escorted him out of the building. It was just like, Hey, man, you can't smoke. Goodbye. That wasn't hard. So anyway, he spends a lot of time on this story. And I just think that there's a fundamental problem with it that if he spent a tiny bit of time thinking about what the issue he's mad about is, he realized that this flies completely in the face of every weirdo

conservative idea he has. It is funny. The idea that if this one thing, like if he got his one wish on this, the unintended consequences would tear down his entire house of cards and police systems. Like if he accidentally got one wish, like a genie just popped in, Hey, today I'm going to grant whatever the first thing you say on your show is this would be the accidental labor revolution that we've all been waiting for. Yeah. Yeah. And I mean, look, I think that some modicum of this is probably could be good. But I think that if you had to like have a court case for everybody you fire, I don't think that's productive. I don't necessarily think that might be productive when Alex is advocating for accidentally is actually too far. I don't know. Maybe if it

was that much of a hassle to fire somebody, we'd just be trained better and treated well. Maybe. Yeah. Maybe. I used to manage a theater. And if I had to go to court every time on fire with these kids, it would have been a pain in the ass. That would have been fun. So Alex spends a good bit of time on this. And I was starting to feel like maybe this is going to be what the whole show was about. Maybe I'm getting a little bit. Feel like I'm walking through some mud. Sure. And then this happened. And I saw the light, the sun coming out from behind the clouds. I was like, yes. We talk about stuff that actually affects you and your family on the show. But I will say this. There's been a over a million Harry Potter books sold. Here we go. Let's do it. And we

also now have Hillary selling around a half a million books. I mean, who really cares, folks? Well, I'll say this. I didn't spend much time on Harry Potter last week. I just said, look, the difference between Harry Potter and J.R.R. Tolkien's Lord of the Rings is in Lord of the Rings, it doesn't teach you how to perform magic. It's following the different levels of a Wiccan cult. Oh, man. Oh, man. That's great. The difference between Tolkien and Harry Potter is that Tolkien was in a reference book for magic. Right. If the Harry Potter books actually taught people how to do magic, we would have a huge problem on our hands. Society would be untenable.

Okay, let's just let's just stop there. You know how many magic kids there would be before we before we go any further. Yeah, this show couldn't happen because every five seconds I'd just be like expelliarmus and knock the fucking microphone out of your hand just for the joy of it. I wouldn't exist because I've called people who like Harry Potter books. Yeah, I'd be gone. You'd be gone. I'd be in a cornfield somewhere terrible. Yeah, absolutely. I do like this because actually what Alex is saying is I'm old. Yes. My generation's version of sci-fi is better. I don't understand things that the young kids like. The fantasy that appealed to my child imagination is different than this generation's and that alienates me from the pop culture and I feel

sad about this. Why don't young people like the things that I like anymore? Hey, guess what? They do. Oh, no. A lot of them do. No, they like Harry Potter now. I'm disconnected. They like Lord of the Rings because it's safer. It doesn't teach you. I mean, you know, to a certain extent, I guess I agree with the point. Well, I mean, think about it and Lord of the Rings, you need the ring in order to do all the. You absolutely do not need the ring to do magic. How dare you? How dare you? There's wizards. What are you talking about? The main character dies and come back to life through magic. Wait, Gandalf. Oh, yeah. I didn't consider him the main character. Well, I mean, he's the only one. Bombadil is the main character. You're right. That's what that's a bunch of dorks

have told me doll. Dairy doll ring dungadillo. Dan, do you like doing? I do like to know. I mean, did you like the movie? I loved it. It's great. Great. Fantastic. So one of the great things about doing is it doesn't teach you how to do magic. Actually, I believe the David Lynch version does teach you that if you yell loud enough, you can explode stuff. Oh, that's good to know. Yeah. So Alex has read two Harry Potter books. Which ones up to this point? There's five. The fifth one just got released. All right. Writer in this two thousand three range house of secrets. No. Oh, no. House of cards. House of cards. Yeah, Alex has read two and here's what he thinks about it. He's wrong. I've read two of the Harry Potter books and it is classical occult training

and I've got one big piece of evidence to show you a bunch of time on it. They released the Harry Potter book on the eve of the summer solstice, the high holy point for occult practitioners. Wow. Which ones in Harry Potter? I thought he was talking about the first one because wouldn't it be like the bringing about the it would have to be the first one was on the solstice. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That would have to be the thing. So that one, the Philosopher's Stone was released in 1997. Uh-huh. The summer solstice was June 21st in 1997 and Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone came out on June 26th. I don't know how close you have to be to the solstice for it to be a conspiracy, but I guess five days is good enough. Yeah. I mean, there's a grace period.

Yeah. Sure. Nobody, nobody expects like on the day, you know, you get like a, you know, there's a three day late fee. There's a five day grace period. Yeah. It's like paying rent, but I like that. That's the big piece of evidence. That's a huge piece. It was released on the solstice. I don't know. Maybe if you maybe if you learn how to speak Elvish in Tolkien, you'd be able to do magic. Maybe Alex just sucks at reading Elvish. It wouldn't be the only language. Um, there's more. Well done. Thanks. There's more evidence just than this one book came out of the solstice. And they released the other books on other high days, the, the, the, the winter solstice and on the summer solstice. The second book, Chamber of Secrets came out on July 2nd, 1998,

which was not a solstice. The third book, The Prisoner of Azkaban came out on July 8th, 1999. Starring Gary Oldman, Rest in Peace. The fourth book, The Goblet of Fire, came out on July 8th, 2020. And the fifth book, The Order of the Phoenix, which had just come out on July, or I'm sorry, June 21st, 2003. That was a summer solstice. Hey, there we go. We finally found one. We got it. The fifth book. I think that if that's the new Bible on the fifth book, the, the, the J.K. Rowling rested. Here is how you create a grand conspiracy. Okay. You release four books. Yeah. And then on the fifth one, release on the solstice. That'll trick them. They'll never see it coming. Just have a bunch of other like summer release dates when, you know, maybe kids are getting out

of school and they'd have plenty of free time. They wouldn't have to read books for, for school. And maybe you'd go on summer reading lists that parents would be more apt to buy bulk of them. Is he mad also at like the tempest? Like at what point, what magic is fine and what magic is not fine? You know, like, are we, is he mad at Macbeth? Because I'm sorry, I can't say that in here, obviously. We're not on stage. Yeah. Like, because they, oh, see, if you rhyme while stirring, yeah, then you can do magic. Macbeth taught children how to do magic. I mean, it's the script for the magical ritual is right there. Everybody knows it. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I wonder if the Harry Potter thing is Alex just hates education so much. It's a school. Even books

about school make him furious. I wonder if that's it. Like he actually thinks that like, well, if you read this, it's kind of like going to Hogwarts, you know, you kind of, you know, you know, my favorite character in fiction is Sam Wise, because he clearly never had an education. He didn't do shit. He didn't think about shit. I would love it if like you just got to sit and talk with Alex and it turned out that he like just got a little bit drunk one night, was leafing through the Harry Potter book and he came to the sorting hat and he got so scared. He had nightmares. You can see in my thoughts. No. He had nightmares about the sorting hat. I think I'm slithering. I think I'm slithering. Oh, no. I can't, I can't get it out of my head. I think I'm slithering. They

say, I want to be Gryffindor. I'm supposed to be courageous, but I think I'm slithering. I got to kill that. Oh, I'm going to kill that fucking hat. No one will ever know. Yeah. And, you know, just sort of looking at this and then recognizing that nowadays Alex is probably pretty into J.K. Rowling. I love Terps. You know what? The thing that's different about Tolkien and Harry Potter is that Harry Potter taught people how to be more racist. I do think that there's something of a fun, you know, like, hey, this is teaching kids how to do evil magic. And, you know, 18 years later, I'll defend the the transphobia of the author who was teaching kids how to do magic. Man, unreal. Yep. So it's not the only thing that's demonic, though. You know, I mean, Harry Potter

is pretty demonic. But I mean, you know the story. But when I was when I was 10 years old or when I was 11, when the first book came out, my church got ahold of it and they gave it to me. They were like, read this to see if there's any real magic. Really? Yes. Like, is this okay to give to children's or is children or is this demonic? I guess so. It's like, yeah, this sounds so familiar to me. That's that's fun. I do remember hearing about that. Like, I know I know I remember hearing stuff about people who had that. I never experienced that like firsthand. I think by the time those books were coming out, I feel like my mom was even reading them. Yeah, you know, like I felt I feel like that that extremism didn't touch our sort of religious community. I will I will never forget

this, because it was a weird moment of both like growth and insane cognitive dissonance. But coming out of the first movie, I went and saw it with my family, right? And my dad said who is super conservative Christian, my dad said like, after the movie is like, you know what? I liked it. I liked it because they solved the problems without using magic. That was how they won in the end is nice is not using magic. And I was like, and the reason that that's both a good interpretation and insane is because he was afraid to see the movie because there would be too much magic in it. Sure. And it would be evil. Yeah. So it's like, yeah. Okay. Okay. All right. Step. I worked at the movie theater when one of them came out. I don't remember which one. I think it

might have been like the third one, maybe second or third. And I have a friend of mine who worked at the theater with me saw it. He came out and he was like, don't watch that movie is so fucking scary. So scary. And I thought like, well, I went and I watched it like a week later. It wasn't scary at all. It's like, what the fuck was going on? You said that was so scary. It's like, oh, I was on shrooms, man. Well, then never mind. I would like to see that movie. Fair enough. I will watch that movie. So Harry Potter is a bit demonic. Sure. But there's other things. I mean, turn on the radio, listen to rock and roll, folks. And you know, I'm going to admit, I listened to it years ago. I like it. You know, it's got a powerful sound, but I'll do it with

that to it anymore. I'm in a much healthier and happier person. You listen to it. It's half the songs talk about how they're in service to Satan people. You're supposed to just laugh and go, oh, it's just funny. It's just for having fun. Yeah, look at how these people's lives in. So that's all I have to say about Harry Potter. Okay. Good summation. All I have to say about Harry Potter is Keith Moon died. All right. Yep. Do you get it? Do you get it now? I do like the idea of Alex being like, I repent of rock and roll. He's not that old here. This is 2003. He's not old enough to be like, I don't listen to rock and roll. He was born in 74. What are we talking about? So he's 29.

Oh my God, go away. I don't listen to rock and roll. I repent from rock. Oh man. I stop listening to it. I'm a happier and healthier person. What the fuck do you do? You just listen to Chris Christofferson by yourself. And that's not bad. He also sings along with a lot of like pretty demonic leaning rock later in his career. Yeah, but we'll leave that aside. Yeah. So Alex has a guest coming on the show, Scott Goldbergson. Scott Goldbergson. I don't know. Alex mispronounces it like 30 times and he calls himself out for it and they have a nice moment of like, it's fine. But anyway, he's going to have this guy on and the preface of talking about how he's going to have him on. He points out that he disagrees with him. Okay. Again, we do have a guest coming up,

the author of the Silent Invasion in the next hour and we'll get into how our government's bringing in foreign troops. Of course, the author is basically saying that they're all here and the government doesn't know about it or we'll know it's official. They're sanctioning it. They're setting it up. I got pumped when I heard this because I was like, okay, so you're going to have two people who are both arguing that foreign troops are being brought into the United States and they're going to argue about whether or not the government is behind it. Right. Right. This doesn't happen. This does not pay off at all. It doesn't. They don't argue. They just talk about how foreign troops are coming. They're going to get us. I know it was like a balloon deflating.

Yeah. That's like a Marvel versus DC argument, you know, in terms of myso reality is better than yours. Yeah. And then in the end, you don't really even argue about them. They're both pretty good. Comics are great. Yeah. Yeah. You know what's great? Cartoon. I like people who draw. Let's do that. So Alex is not too surprisingly opposed to affirmative action. Oh, not surprising. Right around this point in 2003, there were two Supreme Court decisions that were regarding affirmative action, especially regarding school admissions processes. Right. And these two cases, essentially if you took both of them together, the conclusion that they came to was that having a point system or anything where like if just by virtue of being of a minority group, you got a point,

or if there were quotas, that's unconstitutional. Right. Schools can't do that. Right. But having some consideration about the diversity and the makeup of your university in terms of admissions processes narrowly is okay. Yeah. That is not something that is considered unconstitutional. Sure. So Alex has a bit of a weird take on all this. And here's what he's got to say. I mean, I think it's wrong if you've got a white student who's got a 98 and a black student who's got a 95 and they give it to the black student. But let's be honest, there's an even bigger form of discrimination in the good old boy network for bureaucrats and elected officials, children and people like George Bush, who had a failing grade, but got into Princeton, got into Yale, excuse me. So we see

this over and over again. So, you know, it's not just the minorities that get preferential treatment. Let's be honest about that. But Supreme Court did rule that with the undergrads, they cannot overstep people who have better test scores. Two wrongs don't make a right. That happened because of extreme pressure. But it's funny how they always get you to focus in on what the minorities are doing and what they're getting, but never on how the fat cats get the real preferential treatment. So there's a lot of different forms of affirmative action going on out there. That's what we do on this show is we show you different sides of the equation. Show me a side there for sure. Certain side. Oh boy. Yeah. So I mean, I think that that appeals to

some people rightly in as much as there are these fat cats and the, you know, the legacy folk who are getting all this shit handed to them on a silver platter. I think that there's, you know, fair criticisms about that. And I think that some people might hear a clip like that and get tricked by that being very see appropriate fine. And then accidentally agree with him being like these minorities are also getting all of our shit. That's kind of a, that's kind of amazing. You know who is exactly like big fat cats? The people that are crushed underneath big fat cats boots at all times. Yeah. Yeah. What Alex is saying is basically that there is this sort of three tiers. There's the fat cats, the minorities and then the whites. And then the whites. I can't

believe, I can't believe that it, that it got to this. Yeah. That's, that's essentially what's behind the argument that he's making. I think that it's pretty easy to miss that. If you're, if you're just listening, you can know it. Yeah. Fuck that. The fat cats are, that is the real kind of affirmative action. Yeah. You could hear that and not realize that you're internalizing a fairly racist perspective along with it. Yeah. And that sucks. Fairly racist or super racist. Sometimes I'm very generous with how I see. So Alex takes a call and this guy, his dad has, he's a doubting Thomas. He's the sort that would see the holes in Alex's hand metaphorically. The hole would be Alex's documentary about Bohemian Grove. Sure. And then this guy, his dad wouldn't believe

that Bohemian Grove is all evil and devils. Right. Right. So we're, we're stigmata-ing that if you, I went afar a field with that metaphor. All right. This caller, his dad, would be doubtful even if he saw evidence of something and Alex, Alex doesn't think that's cool. Matt in Arkansas, you're on the air. Yes, sir. My dad is a minister and I was telling him about the Bohemian Grove and, and he, he told me something that kind of shocked me. He said, you know what? Even if I see it with my own eyes and I have all this documentation and quotes from books and I see all this proof, I'm still not going to believe it. Pretty sad, huh? So your dad basically said that he will believe the lie and take, the Bible says they willingly take the

delusion and willfully say I want the lie. You know, some argue, some argue, sir, that's the ultimate sin. Oh, wow. Yeah. I'm not going to sit here and tell, yeah, that's ultimate sin. Some interpretations that willfully knowing something's evil and saying, I don't care. I accept it. That's, that's, that's, that's it. Yeah. Yeah, that's pretty bad. Dad, not believing me about the Bohemian Grove's the ultimate sin. Some people say that's the ultimate sin. And his response to that was, oh, wow. Oh, wow. Who would have guessed that? That some people would think that. Pretty sure it's blasphemy against the Holy Spirit. Unforgivable sin. Maybe it's not believing Alex. I mean, Jesus said it was honor thy father and mother. So in this particular circumstance,

Alex is 180 degrees away from who is committing the ultimate sin here. That's not surprising. Yeah. I would guess that this is a telephone problem where the dad is actually saying, I don't find this evidence compelling. I think that this is bullshit. You can put as much bullshit in front of me as you want. Yeah. I'm still not going to buy the argument that's being presented because it's bullshit. It's bullshit. Yeah. Anyway, this caller, it goes off the rails a little bit because he has another question to ask. Oh, no, no, no. Another question. The flatulent tax, you know, with the animals down there. Yes, that's Reuters. Yeah. Does that have anything to do with like the Jewish protocols? Because that's what it sounded like to me. And I was wondering,

what was your thought on the Jewish protocols? I don't know who wrote that. And sir, I just go with what UNESCO and Kyoto Protocols say. And it's about a takeover and getting us all into compact cities. This is the cover for getting people off the land into the communal farms, basically. Man, if you can take a whiff on a softball question like that, that is how you do it. Wow. That's pretty bad. I think that there are some people who don't know a ton. Maybe you're a layperson and you might not know about the protocols of the Elders of Zion. Right. Maybe you don't know about it or maybe you've heard of it and you're like, I don't know who wrote that. I have no idea. But if you're someone like Alex, where no a good half plus of your audience

believes that they're real and they are a plan to take over Western culture or whatever, you have kind of a responsibility to have a position on it. Yeah. You kind of a responsibility to especially if you're not convinced that they're real to be able to tell this caller, no, this is a forgery. This was this is not real. It's complete shit. You can't just play like the game with like, I don't know. Maybe it's real. Maybe it's not. I mean, we did an entire episode on it. The idea of somebody asking me like, oh, is that do you think that this methane tax to kind of hopefully do something about climate change is actually the Jewish protocols trying to kill us all? I would be like, listen, you got to use what you need to believe what you believe.

That's that's probably irresponsible. Hey, look, I don't know. Hey, they could be, but I'm not saying one way or the other. I'm not familiar with what you're talking about. You have a responsibility to be familiar with it when you're, you know, this deep into a career in conspiracy. Yeah, especially when I would say, especially when your worldview is essentially swapping out Jewish people in the pros and cons of the elders of Zion and just putting in whatever I want on a given day. And I think also you have a responsibility when you recognize that this person is probably younger. You know, he's talking about his dad and like an argument with his dad. He sounds young. Like this isn't this is not necessarily

a person who's fully formed in a lot of ideas yet. Right. You're you're just there's a responsibility that's just being dropped. Yeah. Disgusting. You know what's super weird about this? Sometimes going back in 2003 is on some of these calls, you know, you hear a younger voice and you're almost like trap. I or at least I suddenly have this like cut to January, January 6th. You know what I'm saying? Like if this dude called 20 years ago, it is entirely possible to be like 35 36 and he could be he could have been there. Yeah. You know, like how that's crazy that this dude could just call in Alex fucking Jones. I mean, that's fucked up. Well, actually, I know that this guy wasn't there because he was actually in court over

firing over termination. He was he was trying to that's that's a solid alibi. I'll give him that one. So Alex gets to this author, the guy who wrote the silent invasion. And here's here's his intro. I just talked to our guest for a little break and probably hold him over someone in the hour next hour, let him ride shotgun with us. I go to calls earlier in this hour and kind of space out the information. He's written a powerful book called the silent invasion. He's Scott Goldbranson. I'm pronouncing that correctly. I always pronounce my names wrong even my own. I'm from Texas, folks. I'm just joking. Haha. Great joke. It's a good joke. That's a great joke. So Alex and Scott, their big point is that tyranny is here. Oh, yeah. And you got to face it.

You got to face it. Sometimes even these dudes who do this deep research into stuff. Sure. Sometimes even they can't believe how bad it is. It's so bad. It's so bad. It's bad. We go to urban warfare training operations with the Dutch and British and Israelis and Germans and they admit it's for gun confiscation. I've got it on video here domestically. It's for America. The role players are screaming. I'm an American. No, not the camp. And now it's come out that they're hiring. This is AP Reuters, folks. All these former KGB bosses to help run Homeland Security. I mean, Scott, this is so crazy. I have trouble believing it even as it's happening. Did you go through that and researching for this book? Oh, absolutely. In fact, I'll be honest. I still have days where I don't

want to believe it. Days that we're growing up as American and believing in the ideals that our country was founded on, I still to this day just sometimes wanted to go away. But that only lasts about three minutes and then I realize, no, I can't do that. It's happening. And I think a lot of people do just put it out of my mind and say, no, no, it can't be happening. It's impossible. It's United States of America. This is the beacon of freedom throughout the world or what used to be. And so when I was researching the book, yeah, I wanted it to go away. It took me a long time to come to grips with the fact that these people were telling the truth. Yeah, man. He had an eye opening experience that showed him like what was crawling under the rock. You ignore because you

see the rock on top. You don't see all the bugs underneath and what have you. But he looked under there and you can't ignore it once you see it. So you kind of would expect that like, you know, you'd continue his path as a New World Order researcher after this point after 2003. Yeah, he looked under the rock. You know, go back. Yeah, you've got to get the word out like Alex has. Yeah. Yeah. You're at the tip of the spear now. Yeah. Scott's currently the host of a radio show and podcast about the Las Vegas Raiders, the NFL team. Well, that's nice. It seems like he's been pretty able to go back to. I wonder how he feels about the Gruden situation. He's he's he's not. I don't know. I think that he's seems to have closed his eyes quite well. Yeah.

Oh, no, man. So I, you know, I think I think it is. It is really fucked up, though, that the DHS is a horrific organization, you know, like there he's right. But there's no KGB. There's no hidden shit. It's just it's just a fucking cops out of control, man. Sure. That's what it is. Yeah. You're right. It's just not a good book. And sensationalizing it in the way that folks like Alex do does disservice to legitimate criticisms and pointed critiques just fucked up. Yep. So they talk about immigration a little bit here. And I think this is bad. I have some of these. They're not they didn't make it in this book, but they'll be they'll be documented in my next book. And that's these these these campaigns that they have all over the world, but also in Mexico,

telling mothers in Mexico in Spanish language documents, if you're pregnant, you can get better care in the United States, go over the border, even if you're arrested. Because they know that once they cross over the border, the way our system is set up that people can can have a child here, and the child becomes a citizen of the United States and their medical costs are zero. But they call our government wants it because these uneducated ignorant people that don't know about freedom will vote for gun control vote for bigger government. And it's somebody to pay into the social security system. So it's it's elaborate. Both parties are involved in it. Yeah, Alex is just like pretty great replacement to 2003. That's wild. These dumb people will vote the way the

Democrats want them to. And they've been great replacing us since the beginning, man. Yeah, I think that sucks. I think that's a horrible perspective that Alex has. Yep. Yeah. They're just they're bringing in uneducated people because they know they won't learn enough to and they don't know about freedom. I mean, just what an insane way to view people. I would. I would suggest that if freedom actually does exist in any real sense, everyone inherently knows about it. Yeah, you would you would sort of just viscerally be able to understand what freedom is. Exactly. It wouldn't be some kind of elaborate private property document. No, you need to understand in order for freedom to really be captured. I don't need a I don't even need to go to first grade

to know that when I'm in first grade, I am not free. I am trapped in school like that's you knew it. I also think there's like kind of two perspectives that you can take. And that is if you hear that there are people, let's say in Mexico who are being told that if they're pregnant, they should risk fleeing to the United States and getting arrested because they'd get better health care in order to protect their child. You can go down the path of like, look at these manipulative fucks, or you can go the other direction and look at it like, wow, that is a terrible choice to have to make. What can we do about the situation that exists? You know, it's kind of a difference of perspective. Yeah, I mean, they choose to blame as opposed to address.

How can you hear that sentence of like, here is the choice that someone is faced with when they get pregnant, either maybe die where you are or maybe die somewhere else, but somewhere else. Maybe your baby has a better chance. Yeah, you and your baby have a slightly better chance. There's no way to look at that in a rational way without going well. Anybody who's just by getting pregnant in existing at threat of death, there's a huge problem there. So before we ever even get to the United States, what the fuck is going on? Then next, wait a second, are you telling me that if you're trying to do better for your baby, the country will just go, we're going to have to cuff you and then send you back to die. That's fucking out of you out of control. May I present to you

thought freedom? Ah, shit, you're, you know what, I don't think anybody's free in those scenarios. So Alex's dad, as we know, is a dentist. Yeah. And he's done some work for some CIA fellows, but it turns out he was not, he had a lot of clients that turns out. Okay. My father's a dentist and one of the top border patrol people is his patient. My dad brought this up to him at the foreign trips, getting shot at the bounties and he said, Oh yeah, it's all true. Yeah, foreign trips, mass down there, Chinese, Russian, Czechoslovakian. That's remarkable. Really? Yeah, man. Really? Yeah, he's the dentist to all people who could have information that Alex needs. Before there were any Lieutenant colonels, all the Lieutenant colonels got their dentistry work

done by Papa Jones. Definitely. Okay. All right. So one, right. So the, the Czech, the Czech army is there. Sure. Uh-huh. Why? They're at the border. I'm at the Mexican border to invade the United States and to shoot border people like a border patrol people. Yeah. On U.S. soil. That's part of the conspiracy. I mean, does the Czech Republic get a cut of the United States after they overthrow us? Like, I don't think the Chinese and the Russian government are going to like carve out Iowa for the Czech Republic. You can have Maine. You can't. Yeah, you can't trust that. If I'm, if I'm the Czech Republic, I'm saying no, sir. Oh, I assume it's kind of a combined effort towards the one world government. Sure. So like, at that point, there won't be countries.

Naturally. That makes sense. So I mean, you got to kind of look at it from that prism. From the larger perspective. Yeah. Yeah. See what you're saying. I think that if Alex is telling the truth, which he's not, um, his dad should be in deep trouble. Oh yeah. Like, oh yeah. This has got to be a violation of some confidentiality. Oh man. I mean, everybody who goes to his dad should be in very big trouble. Like, why are you going to Alex Jones of info wars, his father? Yeah. And telling him what quote unquote secrets? Is there, is there some kind of an agreement? I don't know this. And maybe we have a dentist listening, listening who would know. I would assume that there's some kind of a professional, uh, obligation like to like,

if you're on the gas or whatever, and you're like passed out and you're babbling and stuff, right to like keep that to yourself, like doctor, patient, confidentiality kind of thing. Yeah. I would think that especially if you're the top border patrol person or in the CIA. Yeah. Yeah. You know, it's like, uh, you know, the videos where somebody's driving their kid home and they're all drugged up from the dentist and they're like, you know, like horrible, you know, who doesn't make those the dentist while you're drugged up in the chair. Although now I want to see a YouTube video of the top guy in the CIA in the backseat of a car. Why? Why don't we all just hunker down and find out where the top people of all the organizations get their dentistry done? Well,

I know Alex Jones. Well, I mean, that can't be all of them. Yes, they can't all fly to Austin. Oh, okay. Well, never mind. He gets around. He's really good. Yeah. So, um, this Scott guy, I did not think that there was much to his perspective is very standard kind of UN invasion, New World Order nonsense. And I also didn't feel like I had much respect for how he was describing his process. Yeah. I had one of the, one of the sources in my book, um, I got in a blowout with him one time because he was, he was very afraid. Didn't want to come forward with some information. I said, look, and he said, look, they're going to kill my kids. I said, you know what, they're going to kill your kids anyway. So let me tell you either you're going to fight and get more people

on your side. Let people know what's happening so that we can all come together as a country as we have in the past and fight this so that our kids have something to live for. I don't trust you anymore. Look, I can't do this, man. They're going to kill you. They're going to kill my kids. I'm going to kill your kids. If you don't put this in my book. Yeah. I think that's a little bullying. Yeah. I don't, I don't think, I don't feel like this is how you should treat sources. Fuck you, man. Yeah. You coward. You loser. Right. I demand you produce the thing that I know you must have because you're already assuming what the source has in terms of materials and you're behaving as if it's just, this isn't how you, this isn't how the game is done. That's very rude.

Yeah. At the very least. Yeah. So another thing that's rude is bathroom etiquette. You know, like a lot, having bad bathroom etiquette, you know, the, I think, I think a lot of the time it's generally understood. You don't want to talk to people too much at the bathroom. Everyone combined their own business. Right. Right. Right. When you're staying at a urinal and somebody chooses the one specifically next to you and starts up a conversation, you're like, this is out of, you're out of pocket here, sir. Yeah. And I think that Alex actually has a pretty decent complaint here. If this did happen, it did, but he ran into a globalist in the bathroom. Okay. Okay. But you need to understand something. I was talking about the threats I received over the years. Really

one of the latest ones was last year when I was out in LA, taking the conspiracy zone, and then we all had our own dressing rooms. But right off the main floor of the stage, right before we went on, I went to a bathroom, a communal bathroom, larger one, and there was Lionel Chetwin, the guy that just made a made for TV movie where Bush is the big hero. He's the head of Bush's committee that's taking over the media, humanity and arts with the propaganda. He goes, he looks at me, and he goes, you're Alex Jones, bugs his eyes out, makes a fist, points his finger and says, we're going to get you following the mountain. I said, he's going to get me in front of some of the staff and he goes, oh, I'm just joking. So that's on the record. It's on the record.

Yeah, man. I that would be the highlight of my life. I want to be in a bathroom somewhere and just suddenly be like, you're Jordan. We're going to get you. And I'd be like, yes, yes, you will. If you if you're a listener of the show and you ever run into Jordan in public, don't say we love your show absolutely. Threaten me. Say we're going to get you. It's also important that you bug your eyes out. Otherwise, otherwise we won't know for sure. It's us based on Alex's stories about like seeing demons teleport into people and stuff. I think that is credibility in terms of the details of this story or maybe a little bit sketchy. Although I could like, I don't know who this guy is,

this Lionel fella is, but like if he has a good sense of humor, maybe he was fucking if he was joking. That's a solid joke. That's a great joke. He was. And if he was joking and if it would happen to me and they were joking, I'd be like, fuck yeah, that was great, dude. You nailed it. We're going to get you one hundred percent. We're going to get you two. Yeah, totally. Totally. You walk away. You bump elbows and you have a great time. Yeah. Amazing. But so that's that's whatever the case. Probably something rude happened in that bathroom and I'm not I'm not for it. That reminds me so much for some reason of Paul F. Topkin's ghost in the bathroom, the monster in the bathroom bit. I think it was off a freak wharf where he's he's like I you know that scene

in horror movies where the guy goes up to the goes up to the sink. He's in a real lull and he's just like, oh man, I just need to get some water on my sink. Just cool my face off and he looks up in the mirror. There's a monster behind him. And I was always scared of that. And then I realized one day I was in my own bathroom that if that were to occur, the monster would have to say excuse me. Fun. Yeah. So after after we have this protracted boring interview, we Alex has some more calls. And one of the things that I have started to notice is especially during this period and even up till the present day, Alex has like standard callers like Carlos is a guy who calls in all the time now and you know you had old man house phone and the reason that we could pick

out something like old man house phone is because he called in a bunch and he always got through. Yeah. Yeah. There's this weird British guy who Alex seems to not like much who calls in quite a bit, but he gets through. Yes. Yeah. A lot. And then and we really do appreciate him coming on the show. Let's talk to Dan and Illinois. Dan, you're on the air. You're on the air with Scott, who is fighting the New World Order. Go ahead. He had a conspiracy about Polish hot dogs. People put and catch up on him. Okay. In Illinois had a lot of thoughts about it. Well, I mean, obviously, why are you going to have a dog when you can have a brat? Man, I want your origin story to have been to have called in one time when you were real young

and not remember the exact date and then to discover it on the show. That would be incredible. First of all, no, exactly have been. It couldn't have been. No, no, I would. I don't think I. Well, first of all, I wasn't in Illinois. We've already. That's definitely true. I would have to be pretending to be in Illinois. Right. It sounds like you at the time. If there's a Dan in Missouri who's really into Scott, then maybe maybe we'll have the conspiracy going here. Dan in Missouri, you're on the air. Okay. Hey, Alex, is it cool to wear rainbow suspenders? Get off the line, kid. What kind of ride is your favorite? Mine's a zoot suit. That's more swing. I know. Come on. So we have one

last clip here and I just think it's a bad summation of this episode. You bet. Thank you. This show's been so good. I'm going to re air it tonight. Nine to midnight central on the short wave at five point zero eight five and sixty eight. Ninety. He re airs every show. Yeah. This is not it's not like this show is so good. I'm going to re air it. No, you re air every night. Your air your show is re broadcast. It's like at the end of an episode of Seinfeld. They're like, we're really going to play this one a lot. I bet. Yeah. This one's going to go on. This one's so good. It's going on syndication. It's going to be syndicated. This one for sure is going to be syndicated. Yeah. So dumb. I think that this show, this

episode was a little bit light on actual content. Not a whole lot going on, right? But that cop story I think is pretty funny. And then Alex's discussion of Harry Potter is any time we get a nice cultural touchstone, it's always really important to just experience it, whether it's his take on the watchmen or his take on oblivion, his other take on oblivion, his third take on oblivion. There is there is an alternate universe where fucking Cisco is the guy on info wars and Alex and Ebert have been working together for years. Sure. I think that would be great. That would be great. Alex. If Alex's career does fall apart, you know, in the coming months and years, I would like to extend an olive branch

and do a podcast with him where we talk about movies. We just talk about man. What do you think this is about? Do you think this movie is here? I mean, I would I would legitimately watch a movie with Alex and just be like, okay, now I want you to tell me the plot of this movie. Yeah, just tell me what you remember happening in order. I just want to see how your brain interprets. Yeah, is this real? What is real right and what is not real? Is this secretly real? Is this the fiction part or is this the nonfiction part? Yeah, yeah, I would I would like that. I would I would start a movie podcast with first episode. Dune roundtable discussion. So Jordan, we come to the end of

this and I have to say that Harry Potter is evil. Don't read it. Can't because if you do, you'll get magical powers. You learn too much. I would also like to say if someone invites you to a demon feast say no. You have other plans. It depends on and like ask at the very least ask a follow up question like what type of demon feast will we be feasting upon demons? Are you on the menu? Exactly. Yeah, you need more context for that. Definitely. Definitely. But we'll be back. But until then, Jordan, we have a website. We do. It's knowledge fight.com. Yep. We're also on Twitter. We are on Twitter. It's at knowledge underscore fight and that go to bed Jordan. Yep, we'll be back. But until then, I'm Neo, I'm Leo, I'm DZX, Carcom, Daryl, Rundis.

You're a traitor, Dan. Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. Hello, Alex. I'm a first time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you.